All posts made by Ludwig Von in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 19562408 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Quote from: ARTISTCOLONY on June 14, 2017, 07:25:59 PM
i was offline since the last dump, when i bought some at 2260 EURO and now that i am back i check we are only 45 euro up from that...
pretty boring.. why we not pass 3000 euros already? why those dumps?

Peak euphoria is the problem: reading this board makes you think it's only a matter of time until we reach 4000+ BTC's, while nearly no one seems to be taking into account that the market may be satiated already.  BTC has bounced back twice now from about the same price level, and that is a strong signal after a two-and-a-half month long rally.

Although I haven't been following the latest ICOs someone claimed some of them are raising huge amounts. When the devs behind them dump the Bitcoins they collected it might suppress the price for a while.

Maybe some dev just dumped his ICO coins. If that's what happened the market will probably soon absorb the coins and the price will go back up afterwards.


stop saying "ICO" this was a poloniex creative spin on "IPO" because ipos require registration duhhh lol Cool

To be honest, I would like even more volatility at this moment, with deeper downs and higher ups. It would allow the smarter newbies, as I am, to build up a bit of base capital and basic understanding. Also I think the big move will not so much be the ICO shitstorm(s) in a glass of water, but maybe the Icarus story happening in the FANG stocks... .  Wink



2. Post 19636371 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on June 18, 2017, 05:36:45 PM
Lol everyrhing on the charts turner orange/red

Whats happening can someone explain?

A dip in the upwards trend. This is good.
Take advantage of it if you can and buy some corn!
So nothing you need to worry about

I usually buy corn when I buy the dip.

Is BTC now on dip ?  

No.



3. Post 19752226 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: sosasnois on June 24, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
This is going deeper, I'm pretty sure

Interesting, explain please... .



4. Post 19752416 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: sosasnois on June 24, 2017, 06:32:25 PM
This is going deeper, I'm pretty sure

Interesting, explain please... .

I can tell just by looking at the 12h chart.


Well, untill 1500H this afternoon (GMT+2) it was basically flat, for over a week or more... . So I still don 't get your point... . 9Admit, I am not so smart, just a techie) Grin



5. Post 19755049 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

maybe a challenge for the technicals, but I see a reverse "head and shoulder" pattern... . Or we should name it : "On the head pattern" Lol, I love technicals.  Grin



6. Post 20069290 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

I fully follow R0ach and Torque in their view. And don 't forget that we will have to see how the new Asian Mom and Pop investors(gamblers) will react. Two years ago they were lured into buying stawks and had a very cold shower for that... . Now they stepped in BTC (at ATH) so I can see something coming from the far east... .

70 percent in gold, 20 in BTC, 10 in cash.



7. Post 20070271 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: infofront on July 11, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
If the sort of dystopian, hyper-inflationary future that gold bugs predict actually happens, it seems likely to me that there will be jackbooted thugs kicking down their doors to take their gold. This has happened before, even in the US.

If they want to steal my bitcoins, they'd better be able to crack SHA-256.

Do you hear me make dystopian predictions?  Grin And look, the confusion in BTC universe is also driven by greed... . It 's the nature of the beast, no matter the evironment.



8. Post 20093863 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on July 12, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
lol. Love it if thats true. People should make it more often  Cheesy

this calls for separate article on zerohedge

It 's already there, read the comments it 's gonna be nice... . Grin



9. Post 20095175 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on July 12, 2017, 05:16:24 PM
zh editors must be reading this thread,  posted it 7 minutes after i called for it Grin [or was it before? not sure about time zone]

im wondering what will they do with the person who held that buy bitcoin sign..




But something is missing, where is R0ach holding "Buy Gold" in the picture? Grin



10. Post 20097902 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):



"Jihan Wu, Bitmain CEO, already opined that he will hard fork regardless of whether UASF succeeds or fails. It is not guaranteed that a hard fork could happen without issues, but this is the best time from their perspective to attempt one. Should it succeed, Bitcoin will quickly erase all prior losses and surpass $3,000. "

So the market will be delighted that a handful of Chinese miners are in full control of Bitcoin?

That's a really fucking stupid supposition.
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What if it is the intention to have a Chinese Bitcoin? Remember, the astronomic premiums Chinese and Koreans paid to get BTC when it was already ATH?



11. Post 20119403 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on July 13, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
How to get a living?
Share your BTC address

Humm, I think I see a gigantic business opportunity in tattoos for a certain occupation... .  Grin



12. Post 20120098 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: Torque on July 13, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
How to get a living?
Share your BTC address

Humm, I think I see a gigantic business opportunity in tattoos for a certain occupation... .  Grin

You're about 4 years late with that thought, it's already been done. I won't link it, just google image search "girl bitcoin tattoo" and you'll see the image. Although most believe it's photoshopped.

I am definitely late on this one, indeed. And that for someone who is known for always being  far ahead... . Grin In my own domain only for sure... .  Grin


And that sideway thing, looking at it for a few weeks now, I would call it "Drunkways" it goes up, down but as it continues it 's more and more down.



13. Post 20120540 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: deepcolderwallet on July 13, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
Since this is the speculation thread, do you guys think we will get to 2600 again before august? Lost and made some money, still need a bit more to break even again.
                                                                                                                                     

Bro, I'll heartedly advice you not to play in such a volatile market as crypto is. Unless you're a full skilled trader from stock markets. BTC is king and will win the final battle against fiat. Soon things will be like that:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
You are completely right, I'm definitely not a skilled trader yet, just been lurking for some time

I am just playing with around 2k, and I only buy in trends + when I see clear candle patterns and with the info from this website and telegram. So most of the time I only make "safe" (I know it is almost never safe") trades. But then I discovered leverage trades, made some good money, adrenaline was pumping, got overconfident (also the drinks did not help) went long just as it was turning (Still have no idea where my logic went).

I am aspiring to become a full skilled stock trader, BTC just happened to come on my path and with little money you could still easily make a couple of 100 bucks. Also the idea of using it as long term savings account looked great since in Holland I get less then 1% growth in a year... Also since the laws for bitcoins are still in a grey area you can do a lot of fun things with it (currently writing a coin buying and investing website with ideal support for a select amount of people). The API's in general are funt to work with as a programmer so it gives me some incentive to work.

As soon as I get that website up and running and have some more funds I'll start opening up a proper broker account and reading into where to start there... This is getting a bit off topic but any suggestions on where I can start even with a low amount off funds. Probably best not to post it here.

TLDR;
Lost all my earnings and a chunk of my 2k due too leverage and intoxicated, slowly getting it back. Also do want to get into  normal


better to buy as the price goes down and sell as the price goes up, but don't buy or sell too much in order that you do not run out of either bitcoins (on the way up) or fiat (on the way down).

So in that regard, if you only have bitcoins because you used all your fiat to buy at a price that is higher than the current price, then you just have to wait it out for however much time it takes to return to you purchase price level, even if it takes a year or two.  

In the meantime, if BTC prices continue to go down, which surely is possible, just continue to buy $10 per week (or whatever reasonable amount is in your budget), and sooner or later, you continue to bring down your average cost per BTC and you will be back in the the game and be able to sell some of your bitcoins either below $2600 or above $2600 (but as long as you are selling as the price goes up and buying as the price goes down, you should be good), and whenever BTC returns to that $2600 level (whether this week or a few years from now), you will be fully back... and hopefully learned some lessons along the way...hahahahaha   Cheesy


^ This!

Lol, yeah also my tactics. But I am running into a strategic flaw now : not enough fiat to keep buying the dips... .  Cheesy



14. Post 20133666 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

It still did not fall thru the 2200USD. And there is a broker here (Bitonic) who displays how much BTC they have in stock. And that is not more than average. For what it is worth of course.



15. Post 20158534 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

And yet, I am considering selling some gold for BTC.



16. Post 20170757 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Torque on July 16, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
The way I took advantage of this rally was like this:

I bought some gold and silver directly with bitcoin @ ~$2700, buying the PMs at a somewhat decent historical low, with bitcoin I paid ~$500 for.  Not too shabby.

On the next rally you can do the exact same. Or take like 10-15% of your profits on each rally, so you don't feel like you missed out.

The thing is, you will never call the absolute top, and you will never call the absolute bottom. It's the same in the stock market.

That is exactly my plan too. But now I am puzzled whether it makes sense to sell some gold for BTC now, or at lowest. Not much interest in this kind of idea over here... . Cheesy



17. Post 20231210 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 19, 2017, 09:44:41 AM
is eating his dick actually in the contractual agreement or is that 'just' him being a showman?

It is a twitter locked in contract.

Lol, bet with him for let 's say 200 KUSD. Put 100 K USD in BTC. Whether you win or loose the bet, you win. And his D**k, he lost it already longtime
ago by some hookers with piranha teeth... . Grin Grin



18. Post 20257604 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

 Cheesy Don 't sell the skin of the bear before you shot him...  Grin



19. Post 20268504 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

 Huh Going too fast, fasten seatbelt, check parachutes and survival kits... And 50 grams of gold... . Grin



20. Post 20268718 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 20, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
I don't like being the last on the list  Sad wasnt there someone guessing a date in 2018 couple of days ago? Cheesy

edit: I can see its OK now,

They have overtaken you.. -> 05/02/2018

According to Mr Mc Affee it is on April 10 2020 (500 K USD). So fixed it. There is a dick to loose if not so. That must be the most supporting analysis possible... .  Cheesy Probably out of range for this contest?



21. Post 20270702 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: r0ach on July 20, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I'd like to thank everyone for coming out and contributing to this year's enrich Jihan Wu pump and dump.  Please stop by and attend next year's "let's get this money transported from the Guang Dong province to Vancouver" pump.

Not only from Guangdong... .  Grin



22. Post 20284179 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Hi Mic, put me in on 17-08... . (2017) Wink Motivation : it 's the closest date not already taken... . Grts

Or if already token, the next first not already token. Wink



23. Post 20284973 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

 Cheesy Thanks Mic. Grts PS I am from Ghent, your name appears Belgian?



24. Post 20285092 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Torque on July 21, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
This price action over the last few days has been really interesting. Although in hindsight, it follows the whale troll traders playbook if you knew (as apparently did they) that BIP91 was definitely going to lock in 100%.

That is to say, short and run down the market on FUD to the day before, then blast up the market on the good news of BIP91 lock in. Obviously the miners and the whale market makers either a) colluded or b) are ONE IN THE SAME.

And there are people out there that say that there is no insider trading collusion going on in the Bitcoin market?

Pfff!  Wink

It appears logic : miners control the source... .



25. Post 20285246 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 21, 2017, 03:20:32 PM
Cheesy Thanks Mic. Grts PS I am from Ghent, your name appears Belgian?

Yes, ik woon in Antwerpen  Grin

Ha, ik ben een Antwerpenaar... Nr Gent verhuisd.



26. Post 20288687 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Something interesting about Elliot wave...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/20/bitcoin-bubble-dwarfs-tulip-mania-from-400-years-ago-elliott-wave.html



27. Post 20289388 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: European Central Bank on July 21, 2017, 07:03:11 PM

'tulip mania' and 'beanie babies' in the one same article.

fail.

Lol yeah, but for me, in this case, the author is more interesting than the content... .  Grin



28. Post 20291422 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Mr Frog on July 21, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
New ATH Tomorrow. July 21st 2017.

Fast & easy, no need to wait. 
...What ? I need money tomorrow. Grin

Damn that was close. & We are not gonna make it in the next hour for sure.
It was a nice ride anyway.

Good luck all.



Yes it was very very close. Thanks for taking a date on the game, it was a pleasure Smiley

Hey thanks to you micgoossens. It is fun anyway. Let's see who get's the good one.  Wink

 Cheesy Lol Mic, there will be many good ones, I hope you are aware of that... .



29. Post 20298267 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 22, 2017, 07:53:27 AM
I'm thinking the person putting in the $12 million worth of bids is trying to win the ATH thing and collect the .25 BTC.

Rigged!

 ;)shhhhhhhh Wink



30. Post 20300139 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 22, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
The dude has enough money to push it over the ATH. Perhaps he's hoping for a short squeeze and has a lot of bitcoins to dump at a high price.

Or maybe he wanted to buy because of the BIP91 locked in, but had to wait till his money got added to his exchange account  Grin

He's out now. Pulled his walls.

You don't slowly push the price up if you're buying. Price is holding though.

He or they ran out of ammo... . Before the spark put fire to the barn... . Grin



31. Post 20306762 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 22, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still bouncing up and down in the $2.6k-$2.9k range... currently $2790USD (Bitcoinaverage).

I guess we're kind of in limbo between BIP91 signalling going through and the actual crunch time on Aug, 1.
______

Only 2 more days before my cheque finally finishes being put on hold and I can make my first multiple coin purchase in months.

I really resent being forced to mostly miss out on the exceptional buying opportunity last week. Maybe I'll get lucky and we'll have one last panic dip before the end of the month.

For the same reason as you, I would prefer the dip around August 5, can we find some compromise?  Wink



32. Post 20307176 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

I got interested in BTC 2012-2013. By some tech friends. Then came the Mt Gox disaster and that scared me so much, a few bad guys being capable of causing that kind of amok wow. So I went all into gold.
Early this year only I returned a bit into Bits. Now I would like to reduce gold and increase BTC.



33. Post 20309693 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: r0ach on July 22, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Metals remove counter party risk and middle men
Only when it is sitting still, like deep in the ground. Or in your closet. Otherwise, no it doesn't.

More made up bullshit.  You're not required to ever place metals into 3rd party custody.  It's not possible to "take possesision" of bitcoin because the coins never leave the blockchain in the first place.  You are always exposed to rent seeking middlemen (transaction validators) and counter party risk in bitcoin.  This is why bitcoin is 100% useless as a settlement layer. Maybe you can use craptocurrency as a Paypal-style payment processor, aka a currency, but it's useless as a settlement layer aka money (the base of Exter's pyramid).

Here's an 1800 year old silver Roman denarius.  Where will bitcoin be in 1800 years?  It will be dead as a doornail long before then.  It's useless as a settlemenet layer and unable to do  things like reliably transfer generational wealth:



Of course, on a long enough timeline... . We will all be dead first... .  Grin But I follow you in a certain way. Keep PM, BTC, Cash and tools as an asset.



34. Post 20311127 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 22, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
Yes micro did state CET. ^^^
23 24 and 25

One of those will win.
Just to make sure it wont fall into fight about timezone if ATH btoken near midnight.


I am pretty sure 25th will win. Who has that?

Could be, my broker said they will halt all transactions per 25. So no way to sell a bit... . Grin Grin



35. Post 20332302 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

So the majority of the miners are Chinese? I do not know about the technicals of BTC mining, but I have some experience with Chinese business. And no doubt, these miners are fully controlled by the PBOC. And everything they do is planned at the PBOC.



36. Post 20372385 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: Paashaas on July 25, 2017, 12:41:10 PM
Bad day to try new trading strategy  Undecided

I'm just there looking at my 2653 long order, have absolutely no idea what to do with it °°

After margin call, take the remaining 40% and convert to physical silver immediately then wait for $10,000 gold revaluation and 15:1 silver peg ($600).  The world's 2nd most criminal bank JP Morgan is acting as an agent of the US govt to naked short the paper market while taking delivery of physical.

Do not go longterm gold ROach (10-20 years), when the age of space mining starts gold and some other precious metals will be worthless.

I dont tell this to trash you, this is just a tip. You rather want to go longterm Bitcoin.


Space mining, lol, on what timeline do you see that happen?



37. Post 20372589 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: YamashitaRen on July 25, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
As soon as world countries start investing in space faring again.

That sounds convincing, it means never.  Grin



38. Post 20395849 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 26, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
Bet CLOSED! Let the game begins...
Thank you all for supporting this game and I wish you all good luck. Let's make contact when ATH touched.
Final list:
20/07 Siggy  Cry
21/07 Mr Frog Cry
22/07 Protokol Sad
23/07 Bitcoinaire Sad
24/07 Lost_in_base Sad
25/07 rjclarke2000 Sad
24/08 Ludwig Von
25/08 Hazukison
26/08 SportbetMaster
27/08 Nanobtc
28/08 Vamos1
29/08 Paashaas
30/08 RayX12
31/08 BinaryReign
02/09 Patrisorvieto
05/09 Entons
06/09 Oinas
09/09 Edgar
11/09 Buwaytress
15/09 MinermanNC
17/09 Spaceman_spiff
21/09 undeadbitcoiner
01/10 K.Ehleyr
02/10 Petemoss2
04/10 Herman Hesse
13/10 Cryptoqueen
05/11 Chainsaw
21/11 Icygreen
12/12 Kurious
23/12 Fractaluniverse
14/01/2018 In the silence
05/02/2018 savetherainforest


Getting closer!  Cool But it looks like we might get to ATL first... .  Grin Grin



39. Post 20418649 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):


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i've always believed they scam a few users per month. as long as everyone else is happy enough then no one else is gonna believe them.
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That is effectively a widely used practice.



40. Post 20426971 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: Torque on July 27, 2017, 04:36:00 PM
Big money is just waiting the 'correct' time to enter Bitcoin.

Heard this one before. Heard it in 2014, after the market had peaked. In fact, there are tweets from mid 2014 where people like Barry Silbert were saying that exact same thing, that "big money" and "Wall Street" were right around the corner to come flooding in any minute.

They never did.

Are you sure? I think they are already in. The Asian mom and pop investors (gamblers) are not sufficient to explain this years raise. As always, the banksters come in via the backdoor, then pump up and then start selling to the public.



41. Post 20441698 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on July 28, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
Bitcoin, like any so-called crypto currency, is the old like world scheme of Ponzi. Only in the new high-tech pack.

Want an example? You are welcome:

1. Assume that all people in the world convert half of their savings from ordinary national currencies to crypto-currencies. What does it mean? This means that the producers of crypto-currency, received half of the world's volume of national currencies - half of the total world currency bascet.

2. After a while, the fictitious value of investments in crypto-currencies increased 4-fold (as we see in the case of Bitcoin and the mass of other crypto-currencies). What does it mean? This means that now, every person in the world, reasonably expects to receive in exchange for his crypto currency (as a return on his genius) in 4 times more volume of the national currency.

3. Let's assume that all these people, at the same time, decide to fixed their investment profit-to exchange their crypto-currencies that went up four times, (if they take profit in the form ordinary national currencies).
All of them expect to receive now 4 times more national currency than they used to, they spent on buying crypto-currencies.

QUESTION: Where does this whole currency come from? From producers or producers of crypto-currency? But they simply do not have such volumes of ordinary currency, and never were. Because, previously selling the Crypto currency, in exchange for the usual currency, the organizers and the receivers only received the initial value of the crypto currency in the usual currency. Which was at the time of the transaction only - 1/4 of the amount of currency, which is now payable to all owners of the crypto currency.

CONCLUSION: Bitcoin, like any so-called crypto currency, is the old world scheme of Ponzi. Where each participant can receive a gain of the investments only one way - due to those new participants who have entered this pyramid later. Kiss Cheesy

Wow, my mind is blown! Such genius !

Now replace the word crypto with stock market and try to figure out where you went wrong...


And in anyway, fiat is reproducable without limit, so the inflow into crypto can go eternally... .



42. Post 20560212 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

I ordered and paid for a Trezor, express delivery, on Monday morning, to catch the BCH, but nothing happens... . Order remains in status unchanged on their webshop page Huh Huh

So probably they are having some unforeseen trouble ?



43. Post 20588390 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

 Grin Just changed my BCC for BTC at 0.145 rate. Without cost or exchange risks... . Might be not the most profitable action, but I can see no reason why BCC would have any significant advantage over BTC.



44. Post 20588765 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: GHCoins45 on August 03, 2017, 12:44:50 PM
Grin Just changed my BCC for BTC at 0.145 rate. Without cost or exchange risks... . Might be not the most profitable action, but I can see no reason why BCC would have any significant advantage over BTC.

where?

At the small, very underestimated freebitco... . This was only possible for balances held with them before July 31.



45. Post 20597823 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: Asrael999 on August 03, 2017, 07:49:35 PM
Based on what are Guy's voting price to go under 2000$ only one direction after this event UP UP UP

I have to say I am surprised about the price action. Segwit lock-in rally?

Don't think that's even started yet, this fork was just an altcoin drop, and we're waiting to see how the new altcoin works out. BTC unruffled , interesting article on zerohedge as well, one of the Bitcoin analysts Spencer Bogart has changed his view on ETF approval to 75% chance in the next 18months, this follows the options approval that was granted last week. Sees inflow after any ETF approval of $300mm over the first few weeks.

Zerohedge link http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-02/bitcoin-etf-approval-odds-are-way-analyst-says

Isn 't BCC already an option on BTC?



46. Post 20633825 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 05, 2017, 09:04:07 AM
Who is winning the ath game  Shocked

Yes bikerleszno But hè Still needs to reply............... waiting and however hè didn't give technical reason so i'm happy today BITCOIN prooving itselfs once again after all fud, fork and so on that d_eddie Will Still be rewarded for the Nice explanation
I enjoyed this ride and Will open A new one when i paid today .25 bikerleszno en .25 d_eddie .....

Hope Next game opens quick ( so in the future black hole where we are going in this to Guy's made like .25% of the 500k thats been predicted Smiley )

So my technical reason is easy. BIP91 activated 1st august. BIP141 will activate 10th august. So i shooted half of this way and i can make next bet 10 august we will be above 3500 and very near to 4000 in my opinion.

BTC ADDRESS : 1LyuHFHQQuGt6hLjsW8FN4VkiBC6nbCTQD

Ok my man youre the actually winner and Will be full rewarded .5 btc when i'm home in like max 2hours and i Will post when i transfer to you and Will appreciate when i do ..... you Just posted that everything was correct... and on the Next game that i put up after this one you Will have the first date to choose

Congrats and next to keep an eye is around Aug. 10 ok... . Cool



47. Post 20718400 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 08, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
Well, so much for hoping to wake up to $3,500 USD/BTC.

Going to be just another boring Tuesday by the looks of it.

Well resistance at about $3500 was widely expected. I sold a couple of coins about there and waiting for some significant retracement to buy back.

Pitty that 3500 USD is not just 3000 €, I was waiting for that to sell a bit... . ( stranded at 2983)  Cool



48. Post 20795393 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on August 11, 2017, 02:41:53 PM
The slow grind up to ATH's is nice and nothing like 2013 with the dizzying highs/lows. Things are just getting started.

Yes, ok, but with some nice ups and downs anyway, makes it more exiting... .



49. Post 20820498 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Torque on August 12, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
It's becoming increasingly tempting for me to just cash in my pitiful 2 BTC and be done.

Pls PLEASE, if I could give one piece of advice. Don't do that. Don't be poor in the future. I don't want you to be poor.

I keep seeing things like this all over the web. The less bitcoin one possesses seems to correlate with a higher desire to "cash out" at some point soon. The attitude being "Well if it's not going to make me rich in 5 or 10 years, then what's the point of holding on to it. Might as well buy something nice with it."

Holding on to bitcoin is like having exponential compound interest. You won't realize it until it really starts to kick in. It's like winning the lotto buy in slow motion (but faster than conventional investments).

Twenty years from now, someone owning 0.5btc or even 0.2btc will be held in complete awe.

I should have sold more of my gold stash... . And have relieved me from the MT Gox trauma... . That said, I sell small qty's only to buy back more in the dips ( that are rather rare now... .)



50. Post 20826255 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 12, 2017, 08:49:04 PM
Anyhow, once folks really get some concrete ideas about bitcoin's divisibility and the understanding that you can buy 1/1hundred millionth of a BTC, and maybe there is some more wider practices of pricing in lower level  (smaller) units, then it is likely going to take some time to get people to understand some of these unit confusion matters.

We only need to go up 250x to reach parity, 1 satoshi = 1 cent. Then things get extremely interesting.


Up 250x??? I'm bullish but not that bullish.

Wow.

Of course, when the free FED/ECB/BOJ money  flows in BTC via the banksters and other Wallstreet gangsters  that will happen. Only, by that time a beer will cost 500000 USD/€



51. Post 20861406 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Lauda on August 14, 2017, 08:29:45 AM

Not yet.
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Point is : when, @ what level and how deep and duration... .



52. Post 20880171 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

I really don 't think we should be happy with the sdden intrest by the Wall Street banksters and other gangsters. Look at their history, they ruin everything they touch. (With a little help from their friends at FED, ECB, BOJ ett.). The only positive : the greedy Chinese miners will be ripped, stripped and left nude in the middle of the market place also.



53. Post 20896221 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

 Angry Sigh, I am out of fiat ammo for the moment and no new supplies coming in the first days...  Angry



54. Post 20897103 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: quetschiquetsch on August 15, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
This will be a Fiat race tomorrow. In Europe today is public holiday so no banks are working. I´am expecting loads of money flooding the exchanges tomorrow  Cheesy
This would be a nice dip to buy...

Where in Europe? no public holiday here in the Netherlands.

I guess it´s Austria, Germany, France, Italy, switzerland and Belgium at least...

Catholic countries have holiday, protestants not, so Belgium plus the south.



55. Post 20898891 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on August 15, 2017, 04:20:44 PM
Many people from the Netherlands in bitcointalk. Greetings from Amsterdam!
Yes, Greetings from Eindhoven Tongue

Greetings from Raalte  Grin Allemaal ook een paar jaar* salarissen verdient de afgelopen weken mag ik hopen?  Wink
Tongue


Groetjes uit Turkije(Izmir) normaal gesproken Rotterdam.

Ja dat kan je dus wel zeggen  Cool

Ik zal er de Belgen maar bij doen, groet uit Gent... .



56. Post 20901347 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on August 15, 2017, 05:55:39 PM
This will be a Fiat race tomorrow. In Europe today is public holiday so no banks are working. I´am expecting loads of money flooding the exchanges tomorrow  Cheesy
This would be a nice dip to buy...

No public holiday in Sweden, what holiday are you talking about?

Already mentioned that a little later. To correct myself: In the important parts of Europe is public holiday today  Tongue (just joking)

Don't know about the "important" part, but you catholics do have a lot more holidays than we do, Luther did away with way too many saints. But still, what holiday is it?

Ascension of Mary



57. Post 20903774 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Torque on August 15, 2017, 07:19:01 PM
https://mises.org/blog/why-cryptocurrencies-will-never-be-safe-havens

So, a goldbug on a pro-PM website writes a blog about why Bitcoin will never be a safe haven asset like PMs.

Wait scratch that, he never implied that Bitcoin won't. He said "Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies" won't.

Wait scratch that, not only did he use the term cryptocurrencies plurally and as a whole, he included ICO tokens as further justification.

So let much just set the record straight for these ignorant and misinformed people:

No you're correct, "cryptocurrencies" LIKE Bitcoin (altcoins, etc.) or ICO tokens as a whole will NEVER be safe haven assets.

But Bitcoin specifically WILL be.



The Spitznagel article was also published on Zerohedge. Ludwig Von Mises has turned around in his grave... .



58. Post 20904535 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Torque on August 15, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
The Spitznagel article was also published on Zerohedge. Ludwig Von Mises has turned around in his grave... .

I like gold and silver for different reasons (as insurance). But some of these goldbugs are either being disingenious or just plain stupid in their arguments against Bitcoin.

If one could create an unlimited number of different kinds of fools gold with similar properties, would that diminish belief in true Gold as money or wealth storage value? Would that cause Gold's price to automatically drop?

No I think not. Not for people who truly believe in Gold vs. those that believe in all of the alt-gold substitutes.

It's the same for Bitcoin. Just because an infinite number of altcoins can be created does not defacto diminish Bitcoin's value to the true believers. Otherwise every single time an alt was created, Bitcoin's price would automatically drop a corresponding amount. Which it never does.

Same for moissanite vs. diamond. Even though moissanite can be created in a lab and has superior spectacular brilliance/clarity vs. most diamond, there are still who value diamond more and will likely always do so and pay more for it.

Exactly. These guys think that all cryptos are only representing fiat in aggregated.



59. Post 20952790 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: snowdropfore on August 17, 2017, 09:00:49 AM
https://medium.com/@Zero404Cool/trezor-security-glitches-reveal-your-private-keys-761eeab03ff8
trezor wallet is hacked ,hope everyone's bitcoin not be stolen

Yesterday, they sent a mail about this and a firmware update. They state that the device must be physically opened... . ?



60. Post 20988270 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: leowonderful on August 18, 2017, 03:16:32 PM
I sold my BCH on the first day I could trade it on Kraken and that was some BCH I don't regret selling. BCH could win out but I think I'll stick with BTC. I do see some good opportunities to buy some BCH with all these sudden fluctuations, though.

I sold immediately for 0.145.... . So we will see... .



61. Post 21011086 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 19, 2017, 11:46:05 AM
the time has broken for me to buy me some cheap BTC's spending some fiat Wink Wink



 Cool I ran out of fiat already, again... . Grin Bad at catching falling knives... .



62. Post 21011303 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: gentlemand on August 19, 2017, 11:30:24 AM

Im getting really tired of bitcoin as a whole. Never ending drama which will imo eventually kill it.

If a small group can affect the bitcoin market like this, what chance has it long term against bigger players?

Ever thought that's exactly how They want you to feel?

The Bitcoin market is still laughably thin. Anyone with the means can fully fuck with it.

Unless humans can be removed from it, I don't think it's going to end up how it was originally planned to be.

I don 't believe this is actions by individuals. This is the PBOC moving China from BTC to BCH. Thru the actions of what seems to be individuals.



63. Post 21017852 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on August 19, 2017, 04:23:11 PM
Oh for fuck sake. Just got all my shit together to submit and...



And I have no penny, Sat to spend and they accepted thier 3 within a few hours... . Grin



64. Post 21039651 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: julian071 on August 20, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
..  Right after BTCE is seized, I now have some FBI tard on my account shilling for bitcoincash and tethers.
Interesting theory. but sounds pretty paranoic Smiley why would fbi need your account for that

I call a false flag operation by r0ach himself.

imho it's an inside job by some joo admin. Unless r0ach recycled his password from some other website account.

Well if it was one of r0ach's imagined enemies, quite a lot of people could be on that list. In fact anyone who's not a caucasian, right-wing, cis-gendered heterosexual male. That's like 95% of the population!

Admit, it would be worrying if he would be disappeared... . (By some alphabet agency) Grin



65. Post 21040056 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

A question for the specialists here:

So some entities are liquidating large quantities of BTC to pump up BitcrashCoin, but the price of BTC remains quasi unaffected.

That maybe means there is a substantial inflow of fiat ?

And if these same entities are really planning to, at a certain point, cash their Bitcrash coins out, then what will happen with all
the others who bought that thing?



66. Post 21040331 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: Hallmader on August 20, 2017, 01:29:11 PM
A question for the specialists here:

So some entities are liquidating large quantities of BTC to pump up BitcrashCoin, but the price of BTC remains quasi unaffected.

That maybe means there is a substantial inflow of fiat ?

And if these same entities are really planning to, at a certain point, cash their Bitcrash coins out, then what will happen with all
the others who bought that thing?

It will be very funny if schism happens in a couple of months due to Core still firm with Segwit and BitcrashCoin takes over the top.    

Would that be a realistic scenario?



67. Post 21045816 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: Torque on August 20, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
What I find funny is the number of troll accounts here, still pretending to be pro-Bitcoin.

You can easily peg them by the constant fixation with BCH and all the concern trolling posts and the "what if?" posts.

Never the less, if this Mr. Ver en Mr. Wu are as significant as they seem to be, this whole action is to be taken serious. And if it has to do with China, then the more so.



68. Post 21098805 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: gentlemand on August 22, 2017, 11:39:23 AM
https://qz.com/1059179/huobi-and-okcoin-chinas-two-biggest-bitcoin-btc-exchanges-were-themselves-to-150-million-in-idle-client-funds/

How them zero fees were paid for is now answered. Good old China.

They learn fast... .  Grin



69. Post 21102025 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: Denker on August 22, 2017, 01:13:06 PM
Probably gonna see a dip to 3.5k-3.7k

Beautiful bounce.

Looks like this rally ain't over yet and $10k is realistically in sight

Indeed pretty impressive. Did not expect that to happen to be honest. I really thought we would stay around 3700-3800, low volume sideways and then a second dump to 3400 -3500 at least.
This bounce is strong. Almost back to 4k now.

De denker die denkt... . Cool There will be much more serious bumps... . And the trend is to the downside... .For a while



70. Post 21102912 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: Paashaas on August 22, 2017, 02:09:51 PM
Strange..nobody is willing to mine BCash China coin expect the Chinese mining cartel   Wink

Another example how bad Jihan (PBOC) wants to control Bitcoin. And those bigblockers have no idea what they're supporting for...

Fixed it for you  Grin Grin



71. Post 21104764 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 22, 2017, 03:09:24 PM
Probably gonna see a dip to 3.5k-3.7k

Beautiful bounce.

Looks like this rally ain't over yet and $10k is realistically in sight


It just got started. We are not even in bubble territory. We just had some major corrections. Winter The Crisis is coming!  Cheesy

let the MAGIC 10 k comes i have a very special bottle off champagne for this occasion to drink with my BTC boys Smiley Smiley

A small bump, few hundred and a big dip afterwards first please, before the 10 K comes in... . ( Otherwise I can 't pay the champagne) Tongue Tongue



72. Post 21109598 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on August 22, 2017, 06:05:54 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if the masses will every start buying, or if Bitcoin will only remain a niche investment. What would it take to see something like a line of people out the door in front machines like that one? Perhaps one day hyperinflation will kick in, or a total fiat collapse. Maybe then that will wake them up.

The vast majority of people either have never heard of Bitcoin or are barely aware of its existence. Most of those who know about it don't really understand it.

Ignorance breeds fear and apprehension. It certainly doesn't lead to people putting in their hard-earned money.  This is why public adoption is so low and why we're still basically in the early adopter phase.

As public awareness and education grows. so will adoption. The s-curve of adoption is still a long way from going vertical. When that happens, we'll see the 6-digit prices many speculate about.

I don 't think the quarreling and chaos in the bitcoin sphere is very helpful for mass adoption.



73. Post 21111259 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on August 22, 2017, 07:12:10 PM
Actually if you've not noticed, none of the big time Bitcoin investors have said anything during all this controversy. Because they know it is just a bunch of ongoing FUD drama designed to shake out the weak minded.

Tim Draper
Richard Branson
Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss
Reid Hoffman
Wences Casares
Peter Thiel
etc., etc.

Bingo. That's one of the things that keeps me reassured during the FUD storms and squabbles.

The really big players aren't "whale" traders. They're successful businessmen with vested interests and they know not to get panicked.

And they certainly are not telling us what they do... .



74. Post 21175549 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 24, 2017, 09:55:29 PM
Had a dream last night that I woke up and saw my bitcoin price ticker up over $400,000 and rising quickly. Saw it touch $500,000 as it came "crashing" back down to the high $300k range.

With such high numbers I couldn't even think of how much money that meant I had...just that I was fucking rich. Then I woke up  Cry

You know you're rich when you have no clue how much money you have Wink

And what about them not knowing How much they are in debt........  Huh Roll Eyes
They also have no clue about How much They have Smiley

In today 's financial realm, it is mostly the same... .



75. Post 21194564 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Torque on August 25, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
In other news, some insane price action going on right now with Gold/Silver. Watch it live.
https://goldprice.org/

http://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/huge-gold-volume-prices-spiking-time-premarket/

Something Wicked This Way Comes...

I just sold a part. And the price is only hammered down further... . Gold will only rise when the TBTF 's Fail again...



76. Post 21195659 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Torque on August 25, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
In other news, some insane price action going on right now with Gold/Silver. Watch it live.
https://goldprice.org/

http://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/huge-gold-volume-prices-spiking-time-premarket/

Something Wicked This Way Comes...

I just sold a part. And the price is only hammered down further... . Gold will only rise when the TBTF 's Fail again...

I think this is canary in the coal mine action. Big players closing shorts, the club trying to keep Gold down below 1300, but each drive by less and less effective. If Gold breaks 1300 and Silver breaks 20, we could see the start of something...

I also noticed that even when the Silver paper market was smashed down all the way to $14.50 not long ago, the physical Silver market never adjusted lower than $16.90. Very telling.
Yes, but that will not be so fast... . At a certain point, gold and BTC will evolve similar... .



77. Post 21228968 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on August 26, 2017, 05:41:12 PM
wtf is going on with Monero?
 Huh Huh

It's about to be listed in Korea. They're the new king of degenerate pumps. Expect a fine fall once they've had their fun.

Your insolence toward Comrade Kim has been #noted. Expect a fine. And no fun. Ever.

Kim has rocket tech! Not shouting to the moon, but shooting to the moon! (it most probably will miss)



78. Post 21287250 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

So, I sold a part of my physical... . Now, how to inject it in BTC in a not too stupid manner... .



79. Post 21287926 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: eXpl0sive on August 28, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
So, I sold a part of my physical...

Liver?  Kidney?

Mind... .



80. Post 21289662 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on August 28, 2017, 06:22:14 PM

 You should have started with your virginity.  A mind is a terrible thing to waste Wink

edit: Damn! Joke fail - virginity isn't physical ;(


So is Mind... .



81. Post 21289881 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Wekkel on August 28, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Depends on your whereabouts.

Anywhere the wind blows... .



82. Post 21290629 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Torque on August 28, 2017, 07:07:22 PM
Ok guys, if you are going to bother to take up WO thread space, could you at least post something resembling a complete sentence?

I ' m sorry, I could not find a gif... .



83. Post 21314368 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Ted E. Bare on August 29, 2017, 02:15:26 PM
This was easy. Too many noobs in crypto.

Not so good for me. Kim shot his firecracker too fast... .
Now have to wait for a serious dip... .



84. Post 21314931 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 29, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
This was easy. Too many noobs in crypto.

Not so good for me. Kim shot his firecracker too fast... .
Now have to wait for a serious dip... .

no dips straight to the unknown Wink

That really pisses me off. Just sold part of my gold stash and sitting on fiat that I cannot inject in BTC without serious risk... .



85. Post 21316056 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 29, 2017, 03:12:20 PM
That really pisses me off. Just sold part of my gold stash and sitting on fiat that I cannot inject in BTC without serious risk... .

You are a few years late to the party. Now it's time to begin reversing that trade.

BTW: No ATH in euro yet. Still 40 euro below.

Well, I knew it would sooner or later happen and my expectation was for around November 2017... . If Mr. Kim had been a bit more reluctant, it would probably have been correct.

Now see how long they can keep gold from r(a)ising... .



86. Post 21324029 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2017, 08:02:53 PM
Quote
<gribble> Bitstamp | Total bids: 43930954 USD. Total asks: 1851 BTC. Ratio: 23731.01758 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0164 seconds
Any newbies willing to sell at the currently, very undervalued, prices? Cheesy

I will bide my time... . To buy. Tongue



87. Post 21324474 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 29, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
This was easy. Too many noobs in crypto.

Not so good for me. Kim shot his firecracker too fast... .
Now have to wait for a serious dip... .

no dips straight to the unknown Wink

That really pisses me off. Just sold part of my gold stash and sitting on fiat that I cannot inject in BTC without serious risk... .

Its allways A Good time to buy ..... Just investing now in A friends persenal crypto fund hope to be Good as hè allready guided me all the way 😁 😀

Come to Ghent have a drink and a talk about that.



88. Post 21341775 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: soullyG on August 30, 2017, 10:42:19 AM
Everyone bought the dip?  Grin

No, not "Dip" enough... .



89. Post 21349068 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: empowering on August 30, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
I'd say we're overdue for 30% correction. But I don't condone it.

It would not surprise me..

I wouldn't even mind it tbh



Me neither, only what would trigger it?



90. Post 21350532 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Higher Altitude on August 30, 2017, 03:06:11 PM
I'd say we're overdue for 30% correction. But I don't condone it.

It would not surprise me..

I wouldn't even mind it tbh



Me neither, only what would trigger it?

Profit taking? Today one year ago Bitcoin was $580. That's 8X your money.

Profit taking would not trigger, you do that carefully, not to kill the goose with the golden eggs... .



91. Post 21350972 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on August 30, 2017, 03:54:59 PM
i wonder how many here have moved to segwit addresses...so far i hear its a very very low number.

Still waiting for Mr. Mumpertits dump... . It looks like a sligh bit upwards... .
Apparently low number indeed... .



92. Post 21360994 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

The squid team is working hard on their credibillity in Bitcoinland... .



93. Post 21389787 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

 Huh BTFD seems complicated when the dip is always yesterday... .  Grin



94. Post 21390447 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Torque on August 31, 2017, 07:26:13 PM
Interesting to see the PMs rising along with bitcoin. Fun stuff.

Despite someone dumped 1 billion in paper gold... . Now this is my idea,  BTC and gold ( PMs if you prefer a harem) should be married.



95. Post 21434778 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 02, 2017, 08:50:33 AM
Who sold at the bottom?

Is that the 969th time you've posted that?  Grin


Hahahahaha

Ted E. Bare does seem to have a few favorite posting themes.   Cheesy

I bought some of the ATH, for a change of theme... . Wink



96. Post 21451402 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 02, 2017, 07:58:32 PM

I wish. I had to pay an exorbitant 6.8% buy fee but at least I seem to have caught the bottom (for now). Just a few hundred bucks worth but everything helps.

If it goes back down below $4.45k I'll do it again.

Jimbo:

Do you keep track of your average cost per BTC?  Since you buy and never sell your average cost per BTC must be going up and up and up?  I understand that you started buying in the double digits (or at least I recall that), and I think that you responded to this kind of question from me previously, so sorry about the redundancy.

I do believe that your system does go to show (even with various fees) that you can come out much ahead, even by employing a BTC hodl and accumulation strategy without selling (except maybe selling when it comes time that you really feel that you need to cash out of some of those babies)

Recall that I started buying at $1200 in late 2013, and after about two years of buying at lower prices, my average price per BTC dropped to a bit more than $500.  It could have been much lower, except I had blown a larger portion of my wadd at buying in the $600 and $400 price territories while experiencing some quasi-unexpected cash flow issues in 2015...

Thereafter, starting in late 2015 I engaged in trading that employed a good system of buying back with money that I had gained in selling, and largely brought my BTC stash up while bringing my average cost per BTC down to below $400 by early 2017.

There seems to be some advantages to limiting your interactions and using paper storage because my keeping some coins on exchanges has resulted in various losses through hacker sophistication to get into my personal credentials and also through exchange vulnerabilities, so sometimes these kinds of exchange related losses and interacting by sending BTC around can end up taking away some BTC profits to lower the total amount of bitcoins held and/or raise the average cost per BTC. 
 
I think that the punchline for me, is that my total number of BTC is lower than it had been in late 2015 because of losses - but my average cost per BTC is less (at least in the $400-ish territory), but mostly due to BTC price appreciation of selling higher and buying lower - even though I am buying back at much higher prices than my average, my average price per BTC keeps going down because I am selling at prices higher than I buy.

Your system seems much more hands off, even though you run out in your pajamas at 2 in the morning.  hahahahaha  Cheesy Cheesy


I am doing the same as you, or at least trying to... . The way to account is simply keeping track of total, in my case, € invested at any time, versus market value of the stash. To be forced to have a certain amount in an exchange for the trading is the most vulnerable part indeed.



97. Post 21492808 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Is there a bank holiday in the US? I funded my Kraken account via Sepa (IBAN) to a intra EU bank account befor, on Friday and nothing shows in my Balance on Kraken ?




98. Post 21499952 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

 Angry This time I thought well prepared... . Sufficient fiat in stock, buy in steps, keep enough to do a big one at the bottom... . Now : reached limit on bank transactions online and the funds sent to Kraken to buy the cherry on the pie, not  yet showing in the balance... . Sucks shit those banksters are as bad as the exchanges... . Angry



99. Post 21512417 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: fabiorem on September 04, 2017, 07:20:40 PM
Bottom at $3800-$3900.

I think GS is manipulating the market dumping dozens of coins.

Maybe its even orchestrated with the PBOC.


Pfff, this time I had a good plan, tons of fiat ready, now exceeded the bankcontact limit and what I sent to Kraken is not(yet) showing in my balance... .( So I hope BTC will go down a bit(lot) more... .



100. Post 21638025 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 08, 2017, 02:15:38 PM
so where to put an order now  Grin

I sent € funding to Kraken, last weekend, nothing showing in my Balance... . Sigh



101. Post 21640347 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Kraken-Septimus on September 08, 2017, 03:17:46 PM
I sent € funding to Kraken, last weekend, nothing showing in my Balance... . Sigh

Hi Ludwig Von. If you haven't already, I would suggest opening a ticket here and escalating that ticket using this form posted by Dargo. Thanks!

Hello Septimus, I opened a ticket yesterday. I received answer just a few minutes ago saying they received my funding but that processing was slowed because the reference was not there. But in the transaction I made to the German Fidor bank, the reference was there... .

Thanks



102. Post 21646673 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 08, 2017, 07:20:06 PM
The end of the Cryptocurrency Exchange era in China (translation) - Google Doc

So they're really going for it according to that. I wonder what measures miners have in place to sell. I assume the proper ones have OTC deals but there must be some stragglers who'll have to get something in place.

I can't say I'll be too sad if China checks out.

Bitcoin will be an export product for China... .



103. Post 21648253 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 08, 2017, 08:31:49 PM
AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh

The Chinese pop and mom investors... . It is weekend after all. Bitcoin will be an export product only, in exchange for dollars coming into China, yuan going out of China is what cannot happen. And for the internal Chinese market there will be BCC.



104. Post 21678264 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 09, 2017, 10:09:39 PM
Who sold at the bottom?


nobody in here everybody must now how this work allready
or not ?? cannot stay idiots around here  Wink  Tongue

Just opened my first order at Kraken... . Buy 0.1 @ 3500... .  Wink



105. Post 21760546 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 12, 2017, 11:50:59 AM
euros and brits pay a premium for being vassals of the evil empire

 Grin We always pay... . Until we don 't Grin



106. Post 21768991 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: empowering on September 12, 2017, 06:22:26 PM
JPMorgan’s Jamie Dimon calls bitcoin ‘a fraud’, ‘worse than tulip bulbs’
 
https://www.ft.com/content/b1ee6c14-2cd0-3ad5-a9db-c8e82d993987


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Long been one of my least favourite people - what a total and utter douche bag


It is all his traders (employees) selling their stash now... . I hope Mr Blankschwein also makes a speech now... . Cheesy



107. Post 21773093 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 12, 2017, 09:52:05 PM
I would like to take this moment to congratulate myself on becoming legendary today.

I have been spouting bollocks for 3+ years and pretty much none of it is of any use to anyone so well done me.

i am a mean hodling mother f**ker.



Congrats, did you loose your pants to Mr. Major?



108. Post 21798587 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 13, 2017, 03:39:07 PM
i'm thinking to , to buy some more but when ?? maybe little now and see what the price will do Huh

My next(buy) order is @ 3000€



109. Post 21798907 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 13, 2017, 03:58:37 PM
i'm thinking to , to buy some more but when ?? maybe little now and see what the price will do Huh

My next(buy) order is @ 3000€

i mostly buy from friends directly or we play poker for btc Wink i even never had put fiat on my account only played poker or buy from friends .... so for the moment no fiat on my exchange just waiting to call someone  Grin Grin


I am a total catastrophy in poker... .  Grin Grin So I 'll stick to fiat exchange... .



110. Post 21833266 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 14, 2017, 02:59:23 PM
I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one  with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly  (UTC time)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This  Roll Eyes

My guess : the time it will take for the Chinese citizens to find out how to circumvent the government meddling. And since they are very creative in that, (the only creativity they have),
I would say pretty fast. So my guess : october 15.  Tongue Tongue Tongue



111. Post 21836297 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Torque on September 14, 2017, 04:25:27 PM
If the PBoC really intends to shut down the Chinese exchanges for a brief period of time in October, that can only mean one thing.

That some global tomfuckery shenanigans are about to go down in Oct/Nov. timeframe or perhaps Q1 2018, and that they don't want a stampede IN to bitcoin.

You could be very right about that. Only, I think they will just provoke the stampede by their actions... .



112. Post 21843088 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Wekkel on September 14, 2017, 08:08:04 PM
This is a major Bitcoin buy (and sell) site in the Netherlands.

Dry as a desert all evening... the Dutchies are buying this dip with hands and feet....



3-day price chart with my thoughts in link: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@wekkel/bitcoin-buy-sites-bleeding-dry-by-buyers

I am not so sure of that... . They are very good marketeers. As a customer of them, I managed several times to buy on moments they displayed zero stock... .
Grts (uit Gent)



113. Post 21844484 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Starving_Marvin on September 14, 2017, 09:13:27 PM
Bought at 3286, hopefully bottom is in now

I think that if or when the 20 000 yuan line breaks, all hell will be loose. Interesting times. I guess I'll skip sleeping for tonight.

20 000 Yen broken! Interesting to see what happens now...

I put my "Sleep well" order @ 2500€ (so slightly below 3000 USD)



114. Post 21903097 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 16, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
Antminer d3s are now on sale

Currently offering MASSIVE boost in hash, will get around 1 btc/month at the moment

What's your monthly power consumption?

I only have the one ethereum mining rig (5x 480)

about 650 Kwh

I'll admit that I'm currently completely ignorant about crypto mining. But I will be building a house next year, and intend to set up a 10kw solar array on the roof (with enough expansion for another 5kw) with battery storage. Yeah, my roof will be that big. So by my back-of-a-napkin calculation, with the 10kw I will have some yearly excess power, and with 15kw I'd definitely have surplus. Was thinking that setting up a crypto miner would be a no-brainer.

I am, as a DC electric engineer, designing an installation where the miner and cooling are directly powered in DC from a solar rig. With back up from grid or gen. Should be about 25% more efficient, so feasable in our expensive energy environment. Surplus heat is recuperated for domestic use.



115. Post 21941215 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on September 17, 2017, 08:21:44 PM
Equifax's chief security officer was a music major, she studied music composition. Why would they put someone with degrees in music in charge of the company’s data security?

"Out of the box" it makes sense.



116. Post 21958445 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Denker on September 18, 2017, 10:26:05 AM
$3981 on Stamp, looks like the storm has blown over & we're nearly back to the $4000's. China bull shot has been dissolved.

Let's see if we can break through 4000 without any signs of big resistance or if we will need 2-3 attempts to break it.
Furthermore I still expect some shenanigans by chinese regulators which may trigger another uncertainty and shakeout. Probably not as strong as the recent one, but the market still has the tendency to react extreme emotional.

Exactly my thought... . Leaving a buy order @ 2700€ open... .



117. Post 22011572 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on September 19, 2017, 07:46:41 PM
Why outlaw something profitable and create a black market when you can legalize it, monopolize it, and tax it?

I have to stock on popcorn for when they will expropriate Jihan Wu & C. I guess BitCHcoin will become the new CHinacoin then.

It is already done. And they wil not close the miners. Only, BTC will be produced for export exlusively. The BitCHcoin probably will be traded in Yuan also.



118. Post 22032118 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

The whole financial establishment and MSM is falling over each other in declaring Bitcoin a bubble. Even our local national radio talks about the Chinese ban...

And this (quote of Bill Blain on Zerohedge)

"Meanwhile… I’ve been asked a number of times to comment on cryptocurrencies.

I try not to – on the basis I don’t really understand the underlying logic. But a blog I read this morning struck a chord. I can’t grasp why they have taken off - except to make things like Silk Road the modern equivalent of smuggling as it hides transactions from financial scrutiny raising questions of illegality and tax. That is legally and morally wrong. Their valuations are bubbletastic, and there are now over 1200 of the things looking ripe for legislative sideswipes.

Neither can I figure how Bitcoin can possibly work – apparently the Blockchain underlying it can only handle 6 transactions per second, unlike your average credit card which can handle hundreds of thousands of simultaneous deals. In other words, you could never run a global economy off it!  More to the point, I’m not quite sure why we need it when we have well established offshore currency markets and accepted “stores-of-value” like the gold brick.

And then there is the story Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan will sack any of his bankers who own them. (Hah.. we’ve heard them bragging in the pub about how much they’ve made from holding Bitcoin.)

Step back and the kinds of gains Crypto-currencies have made scream “bubble”! – fuelled by the sillies now pilling into them looking for big bucks, lured in by unverifiable stories about the riches to be made.

When a London taxi driver tells you he’s long Bitcoin… Sell! And all the folk who say they look like a Ponzi scheme – they might well be right.

But, for all their faults, the dodgy trading arenas, and the desperation of buyers, the bottom line is Bitcoin and others have made money for early investors. Why? It’s gone through successive waves of enticing reasonings: first it was the smart technological solution to a perceived crisis of confidence in currencies, before morphing into the “insider” financial trade, and now it’s a sure fire route for “Lovely Linda from Liverpool” to turn her £20k retail wages into million.

There will be tears.

Maybe Bitcoin was a well intentioned attempt to practically demonstrate the monetary theories of the Japanese bloke who is said to have invented the concept.. but today? They are a scam designed to tap the spigot of idiocy. Caveat Emptor.

Like I say.. I don’t really understand cryptocurrencies..

In a world where the biggest real definable threat may be cyber attacks on banking systems, perhaps they might be a secure store of value. But I also suspect the first place cyber crims will ransack accounts will be the cryptocurrencies themselves.

I really don’t like this digital world.."



119. Post 22032714 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 20, 2017, 11:54:03 AM
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I’m not quite sure why we need it

I've isolated the author's problem here^

Regarding this
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There will be tears
who knows. Probably. There always are.

Lol, indeed!



120. Post 22033473 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 12:29:36 PM
And this (quote of Bill Blain on Zerohedge)

More to the point, I’m not quite sure why we need it when we have well established offshore currency markets and accepted “stores-of-value” like the gold brick.

With that statement he's either completely ignorant, or flat out lying to the public. The "gold brick" 's exchange rate is being manipulated and held down with unlimited naked short contracts, the likes of which the history of the financial world has never seen. The Gold price is 100% centrally planned and controlled.

WRT Bitcoin, this is "why we need it", Bill.

See, this is why Average Joe should never listen to any of these uninformed fools. Because they can't be bothered to do the research.

Actually, I think they do make their homework and it scares the shit out of them... . Dimon et al... . Loosing their jobs... .



121. Post 22041805 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on September 20, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....
  Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

One thing I hope we all agree on : the US urgently needs inflow of intelligent folks... . Wink



122. Post 22048676 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
If only the Average Joes of the world would realize the truth about the inflation they experienced in the past, as well as the heightened level of inflation they will begin to experience in the coming decade, they'd do well to put savings into bitcoin just for that very reason: just to hedge against inflation and protect their purchasing power. The price rising > 5% per year should just be a bonus.

It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."

But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.


Question is of course if they will allow us to hedge against their wrongdoings. Imagine what will happen when their bubbles, stawks, real estate, bonds and not to forget, debt, pop all together at the same time... .



123. Post 22049683 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Wekkel on September 20, 2017, 09:08:50 PM


But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.

I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.

I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?

I am not that worried. The fact that Bitcoin is open source and can be cloned is not a liability but an asset. So if Bitcoin fails - in the end - there will be others. Lotsa lotsa others. A different take on the mantra unstoppable.

I tend to see the role of bitcoin in the future as a reference value, not so much a transaction currency or something that will completely displace fiat currency.

The simple essence is the following:

*we know the current financial system is untenable
*we know the enormous debts will never be paid
*we know the debt must increase to avoid collapse
*we know 'infinite debt' does not exist

Bitcoin just has to represent an alternative. That will be enough to succeed.

From a technical perspective, I am much more interested in smart contracts and decentralised 'computer networks' (like Ethereum and EOS). That is what businesses are looking at.

So basically, bitcoin is the gold(light) that will serve as the reference, backing, of the future transactional means, currency, contracts etc?



124. Post 22108773 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 22, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
Thanks torque

Ok so basically I don't know anything about ledgerX but I'm guessing this is a good way for certain people to invest in bitcoin without buying coins so to speak.



How big is this news and why isn't anyone excited yet then?

It allows high net worth hedge fund investors and individual investors gain exposure to bitcoin through fully collateralized credit default swaps. This is potentially huge because there are CFTC rules in place that prevent such fund entities from doing this on their own directly. LedgerX has been granted permission to be the clearing house.

I guess no one is excited yet because they haven't seen the impact of what this could do for the market and price. Esp since onboarding isn't until Oct now.

CDS are a kind of shorts already. This brings the WS casino to BTC, I wonder if we must be happy with this... .



125. Post 22120483 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 22, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
Maybe they should ban gold and silver too.
if someday they found gold and silver against their interest and they have no control over it . gonna ban it for sure .

Some here say gold and silver are great stores of value and also can be used to buy things.

There is way way more money in precious metals than bitcoin so why aren't they banning it?

BUT.......bitcoin they are worried. What's that tell you?

Historic precedents show that governments do not ban PMs but confisquate them... . Even the land of the free did, not so long ago... . And my personal opinion, same will be attempted with btc. That is
why China does not just simply close the miners... .



126. Post 22181434 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: centralbanksequalsbombs on September 24, 2017, 06:32:52 PM
Just have to say, I really enjoy seeing posts from JayJuanGee and also Torque - thank you both for continuing to post. Now, with that out of the way:

What say any of you to the following?

Efforts by any country's central bank or government to regulate bitcoin (ie make illegal or legalizing) will accelerate that country's demise of fiat value. These costs of such attempts and many other costs are absorbed by monetary inflation - making fiat even more worthless over time. Fiat system has been broken for decades. Bitcoin however had reached escape velocity globally 4-years ago in 2013 thus will continue to rise & be adopted as it is the only escape from financial slavery and an opt-out of war-making, slave-labor producing central bank regimes.

Fiat around the world is heavily infested and broken from the burdens of:
-regulatory burden on fiat banks & system (incredibly costly)
-insurance fraud
-unemployment & other welfare costs
-inflating fiat to keep stock market rising and to keep house-prices from collapsing
-frivolous legal costs (lawsuits bogging the system down)
-financing conflicts, bombs, and "aid"
-keeping monopolies with internet access centralized and search engine crawlers centralized
-money laundering
-false claims (outside of insurance)
-chargebacks
-state-sponsored corruption and unofficial corruption (governments and gangs, banks and conartists)
-retirement obligations (debasement in value to keep up with payments from government or other retirement-obligations)
-fake credit (goods being transacted with credit-loss, replaced by inflation of monetary base rather than bringing perpetrators & source to justice)

Bitcoin, systemically, is free from these burdens.



This is what happens when corruption goes awkward and it doesn 't matter what ideology, has nothing to do with it... . So just wait and see for the first of the "Other" systems country 's going all the way... .
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-24/insiders-view-bitcoinization-venezuela



127. Post 22182950 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Torque on September 24, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Just have to say, I really enjoy seeing posts from JayJuanGee and also Torque - thank you both for continuing to post. Now, with that out of the way:
....

Bitcoin, systemically, is free from these burdens.[/size]


This is what happens when corruption goes awkward and it doesn 't matter what ideology, has nothing to do with it... . So just wait and see for the first of the "Other" systems country 's going all the way... .
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-24/insiders-view-bitcoinization-venezuela

I would add that citizens of all countries tend to be completely, 100% reactive to what is happening to them, as opposed to being proactive. They wait until things get really bad before outright defying their government and looking for other options. That is why right now Bitcoin is suddenly being seen as a more serious option to their native fiat in places like Venezuela, Greece, Italy, and Spain. In other countries, it's still being regarded as a strange novelty.

The oil EROI has turned a corner and is on a very serious and possibly rapid decline. But just because the oil barons and central banking oligarchs of the world can push their socialized losses to the countries with the least productive GDP output first, doesn't mean that countries like the U.S., U.K, China, Japan, and Germany are forever impervious. First deflation will kick in (what we are experiencing now), then rising inflation (next 10-15 years), then hyperinflation will finally kick in. This won't get fixed until all the world's major economies all default together, and then a global reset will happen. At that point, deflationary assets will reset much higher in relative fiat value terms. Hopefully at that point, the Fed and central banking will collapse altogether.

I for one see where the puck is heading, which is why I chose to get involved with Bitcoin four years ago to protect my wealth, instead of waiting until it gets really bad in my country. Which could still be a decade or two away.

Well, the native fiat from Italy, Spain and Greece happens to be the same as for Germany... . So we have inflation (lower real income for the working people) and deflation (lower cost of capital thanks to free funny money from the central banks) all at the same time. It is so bizarre there even is no term for, stagflation is not adequate. Debtflation might be closest... .



128. Post 22218535 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 25, 2017, 07:47:12 PM
BTC-related strategies: 1) accumulate and 2) HODL)   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy   Wink

After all these years, I just learned that. HODL, never sell. The only action allowed is accumulate (preferably when price is weak).

But I will become more active again when my TenX card arrives. I am going to add my small contribution to the growing pool of people that actually spend cryptocurrencies in day-to-day life. Holding in crypto, spending as fiat, seamlessly.


Well, maybe we can clarify that the most basic strategy is HODL BTC.  However, in order to get to the point of HODL, you have to BUYDL and ACCUMULATL.   

The next more sophisticated strategy is to immediately (or near immediately) BUYDL back any coins that you SODL.

A more complicated strategy is to SODL small amounts of BTC as the prices go up, so in essence, you are never really selling your principle, but only the accumulation in value (and profits), and when the price dips (which it inevitably will in this ongoing volatile market), use a portion of those profits to BUYDL back, so you are offsetting some of the downside volatility and accumulating more coins.

One of the difficulties with attempting to follow more sophisitcated strategies is that guys get greedy and they sell too much or they start to think that they are smart and they can short in order to accumulate more BTC... DUMB!!!!!! and DANGEROUS!!!!!

So, I guess my point is to stick to BUYDL, ACCUMULATL, and HODL, until you really get used to those basics before you attempt to proceed to the more advanced strategies - and probably, it would be safe to completely abstain from shorting or other gambling type strategies, at least until you have really solidified your approach and your understanding of basic concepts of BUYDL and HODL.

The "Sophisticated" or "Complicated" strategies are, as you rightfully promote, are the best for whoever has only a modest capital available. Only, it is a damned hard thing to master with BTC. (I am not going to compare to some experiences with the female homo sapiens sapiens).

As for the TA part, I hope we will escape the "Hokusai" cliff that the WS casino players are surfing now right on the top of it.



129. Post 22304408 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Looks like my "Incremental" sell order @ 3650 € is going to be filled... . Now hoping that my "Incremental" buy orders @ 3100 and 2900 € also will be filled in a reasonable period (weekend?)



130. Post 22305660 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 28, 2017, 05:04:43 AM
Looks like my "Incremental" sell order @ 3650 € is going to be filled... . Now hoping that my "Incremental" buy orders @ 3100 and 2900 € also will be filled in a reasonable period (weekend?)

Doesn't it feel sort of odd hoping the price goes up _and_ the price goes down? I'd be too conflicted.

Me too, but I am following JJG 's strategy, only for now I never sold yet, only bought when BTC went down... .



131. Post 22306310 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):


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Yep, i feel like a pervert !


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Shall we make a club? The BTC perverts?



132. Post 22307168 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 28, 2017, 06:44:04 AM
Looks like my "Incremental" sell order @ 3650 € is going to be filled... . Now hoping that my "Incremental" buy orders @ 3100 and 2900 € also will be filled in a reasonable period (weekend?)

Maybe I am doing two PSAs in a row?  hahahaha   Cheesy

When you consider in terms of incrementalism, you try NOT to get too excited about whether your buy orders get left behind... so yeah, sure it is nice that your incremental sell orders are getting filled.. so you have to set them low enough that you don't really care whether the complimentary buy orders are filled as well... accordingly, you should set your sell orders so freaking low that even if we never go below 3650 €  ever ever again, you don't give a ratt's ass.. and you are fairly emotionally neutral about the situation (at least mostly neutral.  I understand that we are not bots, except maybe experienced expert Odalv... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)

The best about it is, you can cancel orders and make new ones... .



133. Post 22328496 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 28, 2017, 04:46:39 PM
Now we are in a thread where we can be a little off topic I thought I would mention I have come home from work and had a nice shower, put some clean clothes on and feel good.

My wife says ok, one has the kids and the other does dinner. Of course I opted for kids, I hate doing dinner. I then ask my 2 yr old to go into the living room and I then pick up my 1 month old baby boy.....


He then projectile vomits 3 times all over me. We are both totally covered and I mean absolutely drenched.

I had 2 options and I should have chosen dinner.

You had both choices at once... .



134. Post 22611772 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 05, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
Breaking News:

Even Cristiano Ronaldo is now mining crypto currencies !!!!

Just visit -infected site- and pay attention to your cpu workload.

I clicked on your link and my antivirus said it was infected with JSMiner.

 Angry

That will become the next pest on internet, worse than just ordinary household virusses  Grin Grin



135. Post 22777492 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

So, what was the last ATH again? Kraken, in € toiletpaper please that is what I am following.  Grin



136. Post 22820628 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 10, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.


I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,



It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?

Lol, the only thing they expressed in a peaceful way is their desire to separate from Spain. Which was promptly declared illegal and hence the following violence. Also, I do not think they expressed or published racist manifests... .



137. Post 22822993 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on October 10, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
We're getting close!!

I’m thinking if not today its you tommorrow ..... but 2 times same Guy would be like endboss Smiley

I told u Smiley I am still waiting for my answer on priv messages... Smiley
Did you win?

It is on 15, I told you so.  Wink



138. Post 22825409 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 10, 2017, 06:04:13 PM
About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.


I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,



It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?

Lol, the only thing they expressed in a peaceful way is their desire to separate from Spain. Which was promptly declared illegal and hence the following violence. Also, I do not think they expressed or published racist manifests... .

YOu are right, they didn't (mostly) it was just an example that even freedom of expression has limits but, as I said, this is not a matter of freedom of expression.

The "violence" you are referring to was the outcome of police following an order from the Judges to seize the ballot boxes of an illegal "referendum". No videos I have seen show the people peacefully cooperating with law enforment on their task, on the contrary you can clearly see people actively obstructing the judicial mandate.

Anyone has the right to express their desire to separate from Spain or anything else that is not clearly ilegal (as blatant racism as an example) but NOONE has the right to be above the law and obstruct law enforcement in a task that has been ordered by the Judges. I don't think that is allowed anywhere in the world.

That said... I would have put all this shitshow to an end way sooner going directly for the promoters of the rebellion.  It is sad and very unfortunate things let go up to this point.

So far there are no promotors of rebellion. Only promotors of independency. The Spanish government has made a terrible mistake by obstructing the referendum. They should have supported it and have promoted the no voters. Which now in a strange way, stayed home. Probably because they were afraid of potential violence induced by their government.



139. Post 22896722 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2017, 08:40:49 AM
END list, good luck!

12/10 harrymmmm* Smiley Smiley Smiley     Smiley Smiley Smiley

ATH reached i think ..... send me an adress i you Will recieve btc earnings today

I gave a different address to you before, but i'd like to keep non-bch addresses separate, so here's a better one:
1EpzWUZvWc4vDt6yyWMg6shPihizzfYefs

Thx for your generosity holding these lotteries.



When you recieve please post a proove of payemt ..... thx

So iT must be coming now to you....

AND FOR THE REST i like This game but i also recieve Some negativite about the list.... So i dont know if everybody like iT if i would do Another list @ Some time.........

Do not worry, after all it is about speculation... . Congrats to winner. And I am gonna pull my Chinese friends by the ear for not waiting 3 more days... . Grin



140. Post 22973472 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 13, 2017, 07:33:35 PM
Who is buying dips allready Wink

Start @ 4520@  Tongue



141. Post 22973993 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 13, 2017, 07:58:15 PM
Who is buying dips allready Wink

Start @ 4520@  Tongue

Nice my friend hope we don’t see any lower No more 😊
Staight UP ......

Well, my safety net, lowest order stands @4120 for the moment... .



142. Post 22977233 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

This is a good one, courtesy zerohedge :




143. Post 23008354 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 14, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
I need your help or advice, bittrex is blocking members account I immediately removed all my funds from bittrex, but what other exchange can I use?

I need some exchange that is not equal to poloniex, bittrex or yobit.

I need a professional exchange, that answer support tickets.
Try Kraken. They run their server on a toaster, but they don't fuck around with people.

not true, I got jerked around royally by Kraken, lost a lot of money in the process

Explain a bit more jojo, I have no bad experiences with them, to the contrary even... .



144. Post 23155847 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 17, 2017, 08:16:49 PM
How do you guys know these trezors and ledgers aren't getting intercepted in the mail and their guts stuffed with something else?

I believe that the latest TREZOR devices are shipped empty (without f/w). You then go to SatoshiLabs's site and download it yourself. When you install it, a special "fingerprint" (a long alphanumeric string) appears on the computer's screen, which you must compare with the one that appears on TREZOR's screen. If they match, the f/w is not tampered with.

OK, I will admit that is getting pretty tricky, maybe I only need to plan for 20 ninjas

Correct and it is 24 ninjas you have to compare... .



145. Post 23157075 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 17, 2017, 08:58:32 PM
don't forget, the bottom of the big channel is $3600 still


Don't hold your breath waiting for that price...    Tongue

Oh, I'm not Jay.  The macro trend is still parabolic, even in log scale, so the real channel may well already be steeper than that.  Also, it is already quite steep and there is absolutely no guarantee that we will retest it's bottom any time soon so, of course, the longer that takes the higher it will be.

With all the forking idiocy and whatnot though, it is still a line to keep in the back of your mind.


Fair enough.  I agree that it is good not to rely too much on technical analysis, either.. but surely we have upside and downside possibilities and probabilities, and surely if price starts going down and breaking through support, then lower levels of correction become more and more possible and probable.  Currently I reset my plans a little bit to always have orders preset for a 50% correction - however, the last time when prices corrected down to $2970 (which was a 40% correction), I was scrambling a bit to figure out my orders if prices were to drop further - i had an outline of a plan to be able to buy down to $1k - but I had a bit of cashflow issues regarding how quickly we had gotten to the 40% correction level and I would have felt a bit better to have such buy order preparations down to 50% in order that I would not have had to scramble as much at that time.  so now I have fixed that issue.. even though it seems that we should be going up first before experiencing another 30% or more correction.. sure a 10% or 15% correction.. and sure, I am not going to completely rule out 40%, even now, but we gotta be prepared for up, too... maybe into the $6800 to $7800 arena...? (INCOMING!!!)...   so I agree with you that if we only think about UP, then we are likely to get fucked, too... or at least miss out on some ability to take advantage of ongoing volatility that is even of the against the trend type.

I have it only difficult with the upside in planning (sell orders) and executing the strategy (well actually, the tactics of it).



146. Post 23247695 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Tezos on the way to crash and burn, let 's see what happens next... .



147. Post 23250151 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: gembitz on October 19, 2017, 06:54:23 PM
Tezos on the way to crash and burn, let 's see what happens next... .

Tezos buy Lambos? Cool  ha

That was probably the plan... . Wink



148. Post 23282209 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Torque on October 20, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
Sudden rise of btc1 nodes? Check
Uptick in concern trolling on /r/bitcoin? Check
DDoS on bitcointalk.org? Check

We must be getting close to a new ATH.


And Kraken cracking, so a new ATH in the make... .



149. Post 23286937 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

 Cheesy According to Zerohedge, it is because of Zimbabwe and now BTC is bigger than the Squid, all in one phrase... . Makes me smile.

"Cryptocurrencies are broadly higher this morning with Bitcoin leading the way to new record highs at $6000 - nearing $100 Billion market cap, bigger than Goldman Sachs - as demand from Zimbabwe soars (and Spanish concerns see activity rise)."



150. Post 23339792 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

And here they come... . (I doubt if we should be happy with that).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-21/ledgerx-launches-trading-bitcoin-options-and-swaps



151. Post 23382211 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on October 22, 2017, 08:51:51 PM


in topic I'm now all in cash with my funds on exchanges. Won't buy back until a Big Dump happens.

Is that not a bit early?



152. Post 23382799 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on October 22, 2017, 09:08:52 PM


in topic I'm now all in cash with my funds on exchanges. Won't buy back until a Big Dump happens.

Is that not a bit early?

better safe than sorry.

I only moved all BTC out of exchange (only one, Kraken). So I did not sell. And kept my alts on (most LTC).



153. Post 23383754 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on October 22, 2017, 09:27:36 PM
I only moved all BTC out of exchange (only one, Kraken). So I did not sell. And kept my alts on (most LTC).

Sometimes selling looks like a good idea. Like now:



edit: I'm holding my LTC too, obviously.

Agreed, but that was also seemingly the case in May-June... .



154. Post 23383796 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 22, 2017, 09:45:33 PM


in topic I'm now all in cash with my funds on exchanges. Won't buy back until a Big Dump happens.

Is that not a bit early?

better safe than sorry.

All your funds, either btc, or cash, on exchanges isn't that safe. Just saying...
Yeah but frankly, some of us have made more off those exchanges than is currently on them. So.

Never more than the strict necessary and affordable in exchanges... .



155. Post 23386179 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 22, 2017, 11:02:00 PM


And democracy is mob rule. BEFORE women got the right to vote, we did not have mob rule.

You clearly were born after women had the right to vote and your knowledge of history is shorter than yesterday... .



156. Post 23430241 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 23, 2017, 07:26:31 PM
Network effect. Facebook is an abomination that should objectively be burnt to the ground, and ZukZuk strung up for spying on the world.

It's amazing to me how all the govt/state spy devices are being hard marketed and sold to the public, right to their faces, and they will just fall for it because 'muh innovashuns'.

Social media apps to collect your browsing, interests, and conversation data. Smart phones and smart watches to track your every location and record your calls and texts, smart home devices (Google Home, Amazon Echo, Apple HomePod) to secretly listen/spy on your private in-home conversations and record your voice and discussions, CCTV cameras on every street corner and in every public space, etc.

Call me paranoid, but things are heading in a very negative direction when it comes to personal privacy rights.  Angry

We are already longtime there... . Take your Soma and you don 't worry too much.



157. Post 23485597 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Wekkel on October 24, 2017, 10:06:21 PM
A correction of nothing and we see pants being wetted again. Nice for traders but uneventful for HODLers. It will get interesting once the price doubles in 1 week. We are not there yet.

We already lost our pants to MBC, so nothing to worry... .



158. Post 23624284 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: drbrockcoin on October 27, 2017, 01:42:19 PM
I thought that a little off-putting gayness was keeping with our recent thread theme.

See what happens when you meddle with powers you don't understand ?

Thanks for crashing the price, faggot.

That's right ! I just called you a bundle of sticks !

What are you gonna do about it ?!

Wow seems some c**ts are stuck in the Middle Ages mindset. Plebs!!!!

Just a solid grain of salt... .  Cheesy Wink



159. Post 23724548 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 29, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Last few days BTC was oversold. The depth of the markets shows that the demand is rapidly increasing. Moreover at least 1/3 of the miners switched to BCH which is more profitable by 50%. I expected the price would hold during the weekend and probably go up in the next few days. Who knows, may be another ATH is coming?

Since Ver/Wu/Wright own 97% of BCH mining, they can do the following:

1. Mine BCH, wash trade, and accumulate BCH on the down low

2. Switch mining hashrate from BTC to BCH

3. Pump BCH, lock up mining blocks, trade BCH for BTC into the pump

4. Switch hashrate back to BTC, pump BTC

5. Sell traded BTC into the pump, or just hold on to it (making them wealthier).

6. Profit

I contend that BCH is still just a money making scam to them. Sad that anyone would fall for that garbage. They don't want BCH, they want your Bitcoin. You'll see all that here soon, when you see BCH drop and BTC start to rise again.

And don't think for a second that their little operation isn't being "subsidized" by outside elements.

And that is probably what the copy cats of Gold want(ed) to immitate... . Not good for BTC.



160. Post 23735501 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 29, 2017, 08:28:20 PM
How pleasant. I turn my back for a minute and see I missed a new ATH.

$6.3 and we still have a couple of days left in October.

Go Bitcoin go.


Can you do that again, please?  Wink



161. Post 23839007 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: kurious on October 31, 2017, 08:13:01 PM
It's the train that never stops going. 

Mind The Gap.

Perhaps the train is stationary and it is the entire station that is coming or going #relativity

Relatively speaking we are travelling through space so incredibly fast the difference is negligible but even if we accept the stationary nature of any point in the picture, since the train seems to be going in either direction, it is averaging a velocity of zero relative to the platform. 

A bit like the Tube in London is known to occasionally do, despite my national pride in this historic early urban transport network.

At least it isn't steam trains any more, as it was when it opened.

I love the excuses and apologies on the speakers when the tube is hit by Einstein 's law... .



162. Post 23895158 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 01, 2017, 09:21:11 PM
Surely gold or any other traditional investments didn't have the ROI of BTC but...... maybe it contributed to the ROI of your Bitcoin stash.... How? Well, once you already have extracted/diversified enough into other assets (like gold) that you feel financially safe you can let your BTC roll without that much care than if you didn't.
My point is stable (bad performing) assets are another piece in the puzzle of financial safety. Or at least that's what I tend to think, but I like to hear more opinions about it.

Huh ? Wha ? The only way I'm going to get any "contribution" to my financials from liquidating my GLD holdings, will be a deduction to offset capital gains.

If an asset performs as badly as GLD has, for as long as it has, my strategy is to put it into something more aggressive. I'll be liquidating my GLD holdings this year, and reinvesting.

Any investment not likely to pull in greater than 8% a year bores me.

I've tried to be "responsible" by holding GLD for as long as I have on principle, but, fuck it. Life is too short.

Yes, but still... . I kicked half of GLD in May and I am happy that now I do not have to worry about the return of GLD.



163. Post 23950329 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 02, 2017, 09:28:30 PM
"Coinbase Adds A Record 100,000 Bitcoin Traders In One Day"

zerohedge...its in your bookmarks

A wave is coming...

That 's Dimon 's employees coming to sell their stash... . To their CME customers... .



164. Post 23988240 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on November 03, 2017, 03:50:44 PM
So we can expect a minimum of 12K by May?

Not bad

*insert Obama meme*

Unless everything goes pear shaped in the upcoming SW2X fork. I'm still pondering what to do with my coins during the fork.

Me too. But first see where it goes now, eventually convert a large part in fiat just before or after Nov. 15 fork?  And meanwhile, what happened to the "Gold" boys and their fork? Straight evaporated?



165. Post 24000395 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 03, 2017, 07:41:50 PM

https://www.hudson.org/research/13981-the-united-states-of-anonymity
trap or true?

Search in the ZH archive, it appears to be true. There are some interesting articles, stories... .



166. Post 24028882 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Torque on November 04, 2017, 01:39:31 PM

Bitcoin is trying to compete with assets like Gold. You can't "fork" Gold or redefine what Gold is and that has value. Bitcoin's resistance to re-definition, likewise has value. Some people are trying hard to damage this resistance in order to say "see? Bitcoin is crap, it can be forked, it can be inflated through forks, uncertainty can be introduced on what fork will be the "right" one, etc etc... gold doesn't have all this bullshit, I'll stick with gold / stocks / fiat".

This is why all the forkers are cancer. They are undermining bitcoin, or are actively trying to control it, under any narrative like "bigger blocks". Even when they had their "big blocks" with BCH and the 8mb fork, now they are trying to take BTC to 8mb as well with S2X. Why don't they simply stick to BCH? It's simple: Because it was never about big blocks, it was about CONTROL.

I would even go so far to say that for some of the bad actors involved, it's not even about control. If they are secretly being state-sponsored, then it's about bringing down Bitcoin entirely. Or at least dividing it, diluting it, and undermining it so much that it gets completely marginalized in the public eye, forever seen as a chaotic niche geek thing and not seen as the serious financial game changer that it is.

It's almost like their game plan is "Well if we can't centralize control of Bitcoin, then we'll continue to try and undermine it."

Everything Chinese is owned and controlled by the Pboc for it 's own purpose and goals.



167. Post 24075970 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 05, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
looks like another 100000 coinbase customers just got verifed

 Yep





It looks like the exchanges are going to run out of BTC to sell... .



168. Post 24093197 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Torque on November 05, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
So let me get this straight.

The CME Group is supposed to launch Bitcoin futures trading on Nov 14th. Then, "The Idiots Who Shall Not Be Named" are set to launch SegWit2x on Nov 16th.

And everyone thinks this timing is nothing more than coincidental??   Huh

I asked myself the same question. Now a plausible explanation maybe is to cause a massive shake-out... .



169. Post 24096705 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: lightfoot on November 05, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
It's down .2%?Huh??

Fuck, time to look at Trabants.



Humm, a slightly romanticized post era version... . (As the owner too) :-)



170. Post 24134211 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 06, 2017, 05:09:09 PM
Quote
The choice between the legacy bitcoin and 2x is a choice between a continuously proven and non-censorable store of value, and a provenly compromised store of value with temporarily lower transaction fees.

"#Bitcoin was created so you can buy a Lambo. Not a cup of coffee #No2x"
Quote of the day



Cool

why not both? lel

Forget all these substitutes for small d...s. Buy the coffee shop instead... .



171. Post 24137046 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on November 06, 2017, 06:09:56 PM
Anyone having issues with Kraken atm?
Seems that the whole thing is running off a windows 95 1996 PC!!

It is running on a Windows toaster... . Dropping off every 5 minutes... .



172. Post 24137237 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on November 06, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Anyone having issues with Kraken atm?
Seems that the whole thing is running off a windows 95 1996 PC!!

It is running on a Windows toaster... . Dropping off every 5 minutes... .

WTF? How much money must have been made with this lot by now? Can't they fund a proper server!!!

They just replaced their Flinstones server, so they consider this a time lapsing improvement (it was 100 USD in the fourth hand shop).



173. Post 24138948 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on November 06, 2017, 07:09:53 PM
nice support at 7000, we are back on track Cheesy
lol
let's just hope we wont go at 6500 Undecided

It is a dress rehearsal, will go down to 5000 € very fast.



174. Post 24139883 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on November 06, 2017, 07:16:08 PM
nice support at 7000, we are back on track Cheesy
lol
let's just hope we wont go at 6500 Undecided

It is a dress rehearsal, will go down to 5000 € very fast.
In that case is all good cuz i have some fiat left to buy more  Tongue

Watch close, set your orders ready, it will be a very small window (between now and Nov. 10). I expected this, but it seems to come early... . Not ready mobilising the fiat.
Why I think this : look at the transactions, selling at round numbers, that is not experienced people selling... .



175. Post 24139924 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: EtihadBitcoin on November 06, 2017, 07:36:17 PM

Not that I could argue with spongebob, but the thing is a good idea, we are a bit underestimating it, according to myself Smiley
But apparently the dump is actually due to a prince in saudi arabia saying something bad?!?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-23/bitcoin-tumbles-after-saudi-prince-calls-crypto-enron-making

This just might cause it to tumble like it has.
AM I right? Roll Eyes

The prince already left the scene... .



176. Post 24147665 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: julian071 on November 06, 2017, 11:09:00 PM
OK, I'm out. Sold everything @ 6120 euro. Only have some Dash and Byteball left. Gonna watch this whole Segwit2X-thing from the sidelines, I'll buy back cheaper or more expensive depending on the outcome.

Hope this selling everything pans out as well as the last time I did.

And when was that "Last time", if I may ask?



177. Post 24149033 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 06, 2017, 11:43:51 PM
OK, I'm out. Sold everything @ 6120 euro. Only have some Dash and Byteball left. Gonna watch this whole Segwit2X-thing from the sidelines, I'll buy back cheaper or more expensive depending on the outcome.

Hope this selling everything pans out as well as the last time I did.

Last time you sold was at 600 euro to buy a Ducati. You should be proud now riding the most expensive Ducati ever?



Yeah... hahhahahahaha


#r3kt

Funny how folks try to come into this thread and talk their bullshit, either FUD or consumerism with an asset such as bitcoin, in which we already should recognize as one of the best appreciating of assets.  Furthermore, lessons should have been learnt, but these guys never learn and they sell and then buy higher and then sell and then buy higher... . which should indicate that you should not be going full fiat - unless you just happen to be randomly lucky and like to play against the odds.

Maybe it should be described as fear induction based upon:  "being over invested"?

Well, of course selling out, so far has not been the most productive way of handling BTC. Of course there also is the fact that on a long enough timeline the... . (You know the rest), also is true. So my plan is to hold and grow, but split off gradually more to increase quality of life, which is not translating into lambinos and duckatis in my case. Lol.



178. Post 24198695 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 07, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/cme-groups-leo-melamed-well-tame-bitcoin/
"We will regulate, make bitcoin not wild, nor wilder. We'll tame it into a regular type instrument of trade with rules."
Disclosure: CME Group is an investor in Digital Currency Group, CoinDesk's parent company.
someone's gonna get rekt

I'm going to need stronger popcorn

Bizarro guys, they are complaining there is not enough vol in their stawk (un)business and then they want less vol in BTC? I wonder how much he would want to pay for taming
my coins... .



179. Post 24204401 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

In support for BTC and very much how I think about it. And confirming what most users think about all the forks and other fuzz to solve "Des maladies imaginaires".

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/bitcoin-digital-gold



180. Post 24229649 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 08, 2017, 11:43:09 AM
I've just transferred 10k € to Kraken to buy some more BTC, and now we're Choo-Choo'ing...

WTF?

Ha, you made the wheels come off again ?  Wink



181. Post 24231742 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Torque on November 08, 2017, 12:37:57 PM

All I ask is they pump it to 10X or 20X first, lol.  Tongue

First they (their customers) gonna get screwed badly by honey badger and then they gonna complain to have the FED-SEC and the rest of the so called regulators to impose
regulations = destroy price discovery on the exchanges. And we might very well end in the same deplorable position as GLD.



182. Post 24238159 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Torque on November 08, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
Honestly, some of you guys talking about forks having immediate value are just not getting it.

Let's say that the entirety of Facebook's code base was completely open source, and anyone could fork it at any time and create an FB 2.0 with a click of the mouse. So someone does it, claiming that can make it faster, better, whatever. Let's even say that any holders of the original Facebook stock would get an equal stock 'dividend' of like 10:1 for the new site.

That does not auto-magically give this new FB 2.0 any value at all. Period. There is a whole entire ecosystem that goes along with the original Facebook, including the founders, devs, employees, investors, stock holders, stock exchanges, supporting sites, corporate sites, merchants, marketers, ad agencies, etc. etc. The list goes on and on. This ecosystem was built up over a decade or more. Not to mention all the 2 billion users of "the ONE TRUE Facebook" that are not at all inclined to switch to FB 2.0. The are happy and content with continuing to use the original.

Good analogy. Basically what we have here is the all too human flaw : if I can 't have the toy, I will destroy it. For children we accept such behaviour, it is their learning process. From adults, it is pscychotic- pathologic. Like Napoleon, Hitler and so many others... . And utterly destructive for the others, befor they finally destroy themselves.

There may or may not be problems in the BTC eco-system that need to be adressed, just like in any system. But trying to enforce a change that pretends to be solution to a problem as a smokescreen for a powergrab inevitably brings trouble to all participants in the system.

How to handle? Probably negating is the best option. If they see that there is no fear, they might back off. (wait for a better opportunity).



183. Post 24242624 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 08, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
The x2 chain, in a darwinist/capitalist context, is more likely to survive than the x1 chain.

The highlighted aspect says to me - fear of being poor. That's why they won't disrupt how Bitcoin is operating and that informs all behaviour in this space.

It appears to me that there might be some confusion between "Darwinist/capitalist" context and "Psychopatic destructive/suicidal greed" context. Roll Eyes



184. Post 24247766 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 08, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
We can celebrate, but let's not gloat guys.

I, for one, praise the S2X camp for achieving the internal consensus to pull back from the brink.

We will eventually, in a safe and orderly manner, address their concerns regarding scaling.

In the end, they behaved like rational adults.  Perhaps we can have nice things.

This is the collective statement, let 's be prudent and wait for the individual opinions of the players in the game... .



185. Post 24252193 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Can we launch a public request to Jihan to donnate a few servers (no longer needed anyway) to Kraken? At least he would serve some public interest by doing so... . Wink



186. Post 24332638 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: ivomm on November 10, 2017, 07:15:43 AM
kraken USD price: 7230
Euro price: 6040 =7030$. Some traders are completely illiterate!

And 110€ difference between Kraken and Stamp... .



187. Post 24364666 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 10, 2017, 06:09:18 PM
Who sold at the bottom again?

TBH, I was hoping for the $10k USD/BTC momentum to keep going so I can retire earlier, but, alas, back to HODLING and the cattle grind I go...
Well we got a new bottom just now 6588.  Cry

back to pennystock? :-D weee

From Bitstamp to foodstamp... . Grin



188. Post 24402076 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on November 11, 2017, 01:10:33 PM
good opportunity to buy more. i dont know where the bottom will be so i'm buying 0.05 at every $300 drop Grin

I told you so  Wink But I will wait a little longer, untill the situation with Btrash is more clear. (We ain 't seen nothing yet IMHO)



189. Post 24418152 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Lauda on November 11, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
https://squawker.org/technology/death-of-segwit2x-has-signaled-a-mass-migration-into-bitcoin-cash/
http://blog.vermorel.com/journal/2017/11/11/bitcoin-cash-is-bitcoin-a-software-ceo-perspective.html

Propaganda with nothing but lies, fully sponsored by the con man Ver. What an annoying day with a massive coordinated attack of shilling and propaganda. Roll Eyes

Like I said yesterday, just hold BTC and BCH in equal proportions and you're protected whether Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Cash wins.
There is no "winning". Bitcoin Cash is a centralized attack, while 2x was just a distraction. If that "wins", everyone loses.

Indeed. As many here are saying, this is utterly (self)destructive for all sides. When the the legacy crypto, which is BTC, is destroyed or severely dammaged, then the image of crypto in general is discredited in the eyes of the public.



190. Post 24420495 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: bones261 on November 11, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

Do any exchanges have a heart? It should be indeed possible for them to recover coins lost that way. I guess it is a big hassle since it compromises private keys. However, exchanges have compromised their private keys in many more ways for years, and the community has had to live with the consequences.  Roll Eyes

Would or should a BTC address not be invalid for BCH?



191. Post 24452029 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: becoin on November 12, 2017, 12:41:24 PM
Congrats. Bitcoin is successfully cleaning itself from Wus, Vers, Rights, and other rats. Future for Bitcoin is bright!

Mostly like your post .... short and straight to the point

Craig Wright - Fake Satoshi who tried to con everybody.
Roger - Who told you Mt Gox and Bitcoin Unlimited were safe, and joined all possible BTC fork initiatives since day one.
Jihan - Mining/chip mafia leader and Antbleed purveyor.

What could possibly go wrong with BCH?

To everybody that tries to make money by "trading" BCH. Don't let those stooges make money from you! It is a highly centralized insiders market. If you still have some crapcoins unsold just sell them and let the gang boil in their own sauce.


And that 's also why we should not cry victory yet. It ain 't over yet.



192. Post 24470703 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Gab0 on November 12, 2017, 07:00:21 PM
What is the use of a decentralized bitcoin if nobody uses it because it is too expensive?
wat the derp

I mean the fees per transaction. I expressed wrong.

The concern about high fees is real. And that this is important for countries with unstable currencies, corrupt banksters and governments is no longer an exclusivity of developing countries.
The divide between rich and poor now is fully global.

And BTC is a way to circumvent these issues also globally. Whether BTC must be the means of exchange directly or via a gateway and how either or and should be implemented is subjected to
a general consensus of all stakeholders. Not just part of them. As always this takes time, more than everyone wishes.

The big shots that are telling that they are adressing these problems by splitting up the system are just spraying mist and delusion over their all to real intentions : grab the power. Even if they
will only be in charge of ruins and devastation, they will prefer that over just beeing a participant in a healthy ecosystem.

We are dealing with, I 'm sorry to say, psychopats, originating of a certain place on earth.



193. Post 24474841 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 12, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
So lately ho is Going to buy al them lambo’s  Cool  Huh

We changed to Trabis... . (And looking at Tata 's)  Wink Cheesy



194. Post 24531476 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 13, 2017, 08:40:40 PM


take hash power away from Core in "bursts" to drive up network congestion so that the problem with small blocks became more obvious
We still need more throughput. Tactics aside the point is valid.

Exploiting a generally known problem in a system to promote another system is by no means trying to improve the original. But is simply marketing the
other system.  So claiming it is to improve the original is misleading when it is just competing the original.




195. Post 24534316 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 13, 2017, 10:03:24 PM


First time I meet Kama and Herr Seele on the forum... .  Cheesy Cool



196. Post 24575616 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 14, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
I hope no politician can buy bitcoins. So when their currency collapses they die cold and hungry on the streets.



Too much?

You do know that there is such a thing as libertarian politicians right.

I'm pretty sure Ron and Rand Paul own bitcoins. There's probably a bunch of others in the U.S. that do too.

A couple of Ukrainian politicians also own bitcoins and disclosed their holdings:
http://bitcoinist.com/three-ukrainian-politicians-admit-to-having-over-50-million-in-bitcoins/


Well eh, that is a contradictio in terminis, "Uki and politician"... .



197. Post 24576641 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on November 14, 2017, 04:02:46 PM
I hope no politician can buy bitcoins. So when their currency collapses they die cold and hungry on the streets.



Too much?



You do know that there is such a thing as libertarian politicians right.

I'm pretty sure Ron and Rand Paul own bitcoins. There's probably a bunch of others in the U.S. that do too.

A couple of Ukrainian politicians also own bitcoins and disclosed their holdings:
http://bitcoinist.com/three-ukrainian-politicians-admit-to-having-over-50-million-in-bitcoins/


Well eh, that is a contradictio in terminis, "Uki and politician"... .

Uki?

Short for Ukrainian... .



198. Post 24582899 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on November 14, 2017, 05:56:05 PM
wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
nice friendly comment. take your battle elsewhere .we don't want to hear your BitCHing here
mr tits
Trust: -2: -1 / +0
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
hahah  lucky i dont trade here....bitcoin is getting dumped guys, run while you can....ITS GOING UNDER $5K VERY SOON

Et alors?



199. Post 24595965 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: godsfather on November 14, 2017, 11:02:45 PM
SELL TIME, 1/2 price bitcoin coming soon.



We know, but thanks anyway.



200. Post 24596924 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 14, 2017, 11:26:46 PM
So the CME group punted another month. Not ready yet.  Hmmm...

Sideways until then? Or slowly grind upwards?

Sounds like Novogratz took a big long bet. That's encouraging.

There is also this : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/massive-hedge-fund-ceo-ready-add-bitcoin-investment-universe

But I wonder, what do they exactly mean by Bitcoin? With all the forks and especially the VerWuCoin, being so vocal and omnipresent, would that not be a bit confusing for all these
VSP 's?



201. Post 24679877 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: vroom on November 16, 2017, 12:24:02 PM
I agree. This was and is no ordinary FUD. Bitcoin overnight losing 60% of its hashrate (security!) to an altcoin is a serious warning. Yes it returned but it touches the very foundation of Bitcoin.

The foundation of Bitcoin is selfishness and greed. If miners find a better way to fulfil that then they're going for it.

A BTC that depends on the good will or long term vision of miners has failed.

Agreed. "Profitable" means that someone (users, investors, traders, etc.) has to constantly be buying those coins steady off exchanges, each and every day for years, in order for the miners to make ROI and pay their bills. The BCH camp just sort of trivialized that part like it didn't matter, lol.

Miners are not going to just mine something indefinitely because some hashrate chart says that in a 12 hour window period it was "profitable" to do so. It takes a LOT more than that.

IMO longterm we will see a PoW change or even a switch to PoS.

Probably we saw the exact proportion of mining power in China. And greed is a universal human trait, but I can assure you that the new Sino-capitalists have cultivated it to a level even Wall Street would faint for. Which often leeds to the failure of to narrow sighted plans. In this case, I don 't think they will give up so easily. (Also something very Chinese).



202. Post 24708119 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 16, 2017, 10:44:08 PM
The BCH crew were very stupid to attempt to kill BTC while it's been on a pretty much unbroken months-long bull run, even more so with all the institutional talk swirling around.

Actually in light of all the institutional talk lately, their attack is starting to make more sense to me now. They knew that they had one final last ditch effort to win over some 'hearts and minds' to a BCH or 2X version of Bitcoin, before the CME group started firing up on 12/14 and trading BitcoinTM futures next year.

I don't think it worked, it looks like a massive fail to me. They have lost a lot of believers to their scam. And next year if BitcoinTM's price continues to climb, winning over even more new people and more institutional investors, then it will remain more profitable to mine.

Yeps. WuVer want to be in the good fellas club of Wallstreet and ROW subsidiaries. By hijacking BTC. Like all the new parvenues they desperately try to get in. But this club does not allow failure and has no mercy even for the club members, less so for would be 's. But yet, I also think they will not give up that fast.



203. Post 24791061 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on November 18, 2017, 01:38:13 PM
... I no longer work, I'm a rentier. And you? What´s your profession?
you a rent boy?

Slovakian rentier, mostly means missing some screws and guest in a mental hospital... . Wink



204. Post 24799896 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: bitebits on November 18, 2017, 04:34:40 PM
Nobody is for censorship, but if you think you can have "discussion" with jbreher you are welcome to try it yourself. He just spams nonsense based on pulling what is being said out of context. That's reflected in his style of writing where he randomly quotes dozen of posts, and then using that to avoid any reasonable argument. If that kind of "discussion" is forced elsewhere it is not a loss, it's a gain IMHO.

+1 for moderators.

You can be your own moderator using the ignore button.

For the same purpose I use as example a Picasso's painting. It's just some dry paint on a board, total value $30, but it's worth millions. I like it because beside its price the number of picassos's painting is limited exactly like bitcoins, and the total capitalizations are alike.

I can make a digital copy of the Picasso painting and call it Picasso Cash. I even print the piece on an 8 times larger piece of canvas. This certainly reduces the value of the legacy Picasso painting to zero and makes me the true Picasso.

Mostly falsifications only push the value of the original upwards. In a few rare known cases, they are estimated on their technical perfection, with an intrinsic value of their own.



205. Post 24856651 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 19, 2017, 06:09:36 PM
$10.000 before X-Mass!

But first some more entertainment by the Jihan-Roger comic sissies duo!



206. Post 24904587 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Just changed my BTG for BTC @ 0.019 rate... . Not a big thing, but well ok since forks do happen... .  Wink



207. Post 24911680 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 20, 2017, 05:17:06 PM
Badbitcoin.org has added Bitcoin.com to there list Tongue

Roger Ver owns Bitcoin.com...do not trust Roger Ver + (Jihan Wu, Craig Wright [fake Satoshi], Bcash CEO Rick Falkvinge and Bigblockers.) !



http://www.badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/



Ah, ok the vilains made it to something, finally.  Grin Though I think not what they wished for... . Weldone Bad(bit)coiners!



208. Post 24980873 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

This must be a fameous U-turn... . ( And good news for his employees)...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/jpmorgan-capitulates-may-help-clients-trade-bitcoin-futures-fee



209. Post 25044813 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 22, 2017, 08:40:37 PM
Ok what are predictions for this weekend’s FUD bomb?   

The weekend is postponed to a later to be disclosed date... .



210. Post 25103102 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: lightfoot on November 23, 2017, 09:05:32 PM
I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked
I'm sure the next 24 hours are critical!


Turkey weekend in the States... . Might take them a bit off guard... .  Wink



211. Post 25139021 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on November 24, 2017, 12:54:35 PM
I will wait until there is a legit Electron Precious Metals before claiming my Bitcoin Gold.
It should allow to claim Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond, Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Platinum, Bitcoin Palladium, Bitcoin Ruthenium, Bitcoin Rhodium, Bitcoin Iridium, Bitcoin Osmium, Bitcoin The Real Roger Ver II Special Edition, Bitcoin Jihan Wuwu Give Me Money Before China Puts Me In Jail Trillionaire At Least It Is Not Jeff Bezos Edition, iBitcoin Apple X, AmaBitcoinZon etc.

Lol, you forgot the "Elon takes you to Mars" coin... . (that would be a one way ICO)... .

Don 't bring them to ideas too cheap, register trade marks and domains... . Wink



212. Post 25204795 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on November 25, 2017, 04:49:20 PM
btc price is giving me acrophobia

Always take a parachute with you... . Cool



213. Post 25214623 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 25, 2017, 08:26:28 PM
Here I am, back from my walk, all refreshed and relaxed, and as I hit [F5] on the WO page, I snap! Right there! At that very moment! Tears well up in my eyes, and I feel a tingling sensation throughout my entire body... Almost, but not quite, like a full throbbing erection. Even before the post-refresh electrons from the screen hit my retina, I come to the most profound realisation, one that would haunt us all for the rest of our physical and spiritual lives:



Fresh air gave you the deeper insight... . Cheesy (Be carefull with that erection under a desk, do not impulsively jump up to shout eureka, it might hurt)... .

Roach exagerates, but always has some valid points under the fire and brimstone layers.



214. Post 25215320 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on November 25, 2017, 08:51:52 PM


Roach exagerates, but always has some valid points under the fire and brimstone layers.

Yeah, but after he's repeated them ten billion times, it gets a bit tired...

Agreed. But it more makes me smile than tired. (And admit, we would miss him)... .



215. Post 25250632 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 26, 2017, 01:35:48 PM
That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.

If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.

I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it.
It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example.

It works if everyone agrees to it.

Communes for example. Early Christianity was communist.
Everyone doesn't. That's why it can never work.

But communes exist today. Are you going to go tell them that they don't work?
Yes! Did I stutter or something?

It has to work on a national scale, or it doesn't ultimately matter. Except insofar as a loner in a hut on the top of a remote mountain matters.

The notion of a "Nation state" is the biggest ennemy of all self regulating P2P community organizing concepts. No matter what their ideological or religeous convinctions are.



216. Post 25298299 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 27, 2017, 08:45:23 AM
I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Bitstamp is an individual exchange. It is sometimes referred to as Bearstamp because its prices are often lower than other exchanges. The prices at different exchanges vary greatly due to location, features and other considerations.

Coinmarketcap is a price indexing service like Bitcoinaverage, Preev, or the Coindesk BPI. These indexing services use averages from multiple exchanges, weighted by volumes.

I only use  Coinmarketcap for altcoins because I find that Bitcoinaverage gives a truer indication of global prices, as it averages more exchanges and excludes volumes from zero-fee exchanges. Bitcoinaverage is also the base price used by the majority of BTC ATMs here in Toronto, so to me it's most representative of real-world prices.

And Kraken is even more lagging, mostly around 100 € lower than (Bear)Stamp... .



217. Post 25327940 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: vroom on November 27, 2017, 04:54:55 PM
amazing you said that...  I've been having 100% of my paycheck taken out in taxes since september in order to cover capital gains taxes this year Sad  
Hot tip: consider making an in-kind donation of BTC to your favorite charity.

In-kind donations give you the usual deduction, but also don't count as a capital gain (b/c you never sold or traded it - just gave it away).

This means if you have, say, 10BTC you want to liquidate, you can sell 5BTC and donate 5BTC, and the deductions from the donated part will cancel out the tax burden of the sold part.

(Of course it's a little more complicated than that due to the IRS's reporting requirements for in-kind donations of weird stuff. IANACPA, talk to yours, etc.)

pro tip: don't forget to create your own charity where you can donate to!

Sounds familiar, the Soros charity, Bill &Melinda, Buffett etcetera... .



218. Post 25450121 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

What a bizarre day... . This morning, before going out for a job, I put a sell order on Stamp @9498 € and one on Kraken @9501€ ,(half with the wish it would not happen), a buy order on both @7650€. On the job we talked half the day about BTC and how to integrate it in the activities of the organisation. Shortly afternoon I saw the sell order on Stamp closed. Now just a few minutes ago, saw the buy orders on both closed... . Crazy



219. Post 25450732 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: yefi on November 29, 2017, 08:20:59 PM
So that's quite the drop.

There were plenty of sharp 20-30% drops on the way up during the rallies of 2013. When price explodes, it's par for the course.



Not again? We need to set up a site like bitcoin obituaries for how many times China has banned Bitcoin.

The more they ban, the more they buy... .



220. Post 25456051 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: P_Shep on November 29, 2017, 10:12:46 PM
Well I imagine there are some who made quite some money over the last few hours. I did not.
Hodling may not be exciting or lucrative, but it's safe.
Hodle FTW!

I made some extra coins... . Very exciting exuberant decadent... .  Wink



221. Post 25518358 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 30, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.
Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands
The Netherlands would be simpler for me from a language perspective than Belgium. I also don't mind the liberal stance towards substances to say the least and I already know that there is some good and authentic Japanese cuisine in Amsterdam, which is generally quite rare abroad, so that's a massive bonus for me as I'd prefer not having to fly across the globe to satisfy some food cravings.

Ons Nederlands is beter dan het Hollands, Engels, Frans, Duits zijn we ook beter in en culinair, tja... . Grts from Belgium.

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention by the way.


I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.
I made the terrible mistake of going there any time except in the winter. Do not do this.

Do go about now, however, it's quite nice.
I lived there for a while, and summer is just utterly brutal. Pretty much lived in AC'd environments during that period.



222. Post 25559311 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Torque on December 01, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
Yeah where is Proudhon? Love that guy. I giggle at some of the newbs here who think he is a serious troll.  Tongue

In other news, these price predictions seem so far fetched that I can't even wrap my brain around it. But I wouldn't be sad.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/james-altucher-predicts-bitcoin-will-reach-1-million-by-2020.html

"A serious troll", is that something like Mr. VSP Dimon?

On a serious note, something bizarro with Stamp : I am logged in, can make orders et all, but when I go to my account page it says that my password is too old and that I must create a new one.
The password is the one I created when I opened my account with them, I think a month ago.



223. Post 25565129 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: 600watt on December 01, 2017, 04:48:53 PM
Yeah where is Proudhon? Love that guy. I giggle at some of the newbs here who think he is a serious troll.  Tongue

In other news, these price predictions seem so far fetched that I can't even wrap my brain around it. But I wouldn't be sad.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/james-altucher-predicts-bitcoin-will-reach-1-million-by-2020.html

"A serious troll", is that something like Mr. VSP Dimon?

On a serious note, something bizarro with Stamp : I am logged in, can make orders et all, but when I go to my account page it says that my password is too old and that I must create a new one.
The password is the one I created when I opened my account with them, I think a month ago.


security measure. bitstamp wants you to create a new password every month (or even twice a month) by default. I think it is possible to set it up in way that it will not ask you to change your password, but I would recommend to stick with default setting. I keep my old passwords in the same place as the new one. over time creates a bulk of passwords and it is sometimes hard, even for myself to figure out which is the latest one. extra little safety...

edit: just saw that your question was already answered, sry

Still welcome, thanks. And indeed, safer but more complex... . I think keeping the same PW only is possible with 2FA.



224. Post 25607153 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: julian071 on December 02, 2017, 12:22:34 PM
Did I just get lucky, or dit Kraken buy some new toasters and a loadbalancer?

I hope for the latter, but am afraid it 's the former... . (But I also was pleasantly surprised to login succesfully in one attempt)... .



225. Post 25629812 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 02, 2017, 08:31:09 PM


A healthy correction is expected to happen in the next 48hs, don't panic  Smiley

Probably back testing the $10,000 line but then from the upper side downwards  Cool

My totally unproven meta dartboard method predicts between 8200 - 8500€, so just above or slightly below 10k USD. But it was for today,  so a day extra going sideways will probably lift it a bit.



226. Post 25635475 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 02, 2017, 11:57:28 PM
So has anyone here actually treated themselves to anything after passing an arbitrary milestone?

http://50years-u87.neumann.com/ - Fucking Rhodium Plated !!!
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VT737SP

Nothing as Neumann in the studio... .



227. Post 25733178 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 04, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Hold on. Does everyone here count as sophisticated and professional?

That's better than being branded as a tax dodging criminal.  Grin

You should receive an award !!! (to be handed to you by Mr Dimon himself)



228. Post 25733721 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 04, 2017, 04:20:40 PM
Hold on. Does everyone here count as sophisticated and professional?

That's better than being branded as a tax dodging criminal.  Grin

You should receive an award !!! (to be handed to you by Mr Dimon himself)

Coming from him an award would mean.... absolutely nothing.  Grin

I suppose not the award, but Mr Dimon is totally worthless ?  Wink



229. Post 25784770 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: player99 on December 05, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
Good article about the coming futures market:

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-futures-make-way-new-kind-whale/



Apparently the writer did not hear of, or does not know the meaning of the word "Hodler" and the effect it will have on the invaders from of the casino... .

BTW, is Stamp down?



230. Post 25786677 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 05, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

Entirely our plans too. And just had the good news : 0 Tax on our gains in Be. (For as long as the greedy gov do not change their mind).



231. Post 25805347 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2017, 07:05:43 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink



232. Post 25806292 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
Maybe he has a large leverage on Euro trades. Roll Eyes

Sorry, typo. Fixed.

Still groggy, should have got a coffee into me before posting.
_____

I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.



233. Post 25808749 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 05, 2017, 08:13:46 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear?

Not a bear, just like me, it is only that we have passed only when it is really passed... . And I also see some seling @10K delaying the crossing.
On a side of that, the dips we have recently seen had, in my opion, contrary to the news on ZH, Coindesk and Telegraph, nothing to do with some external factors. More some testing of the elasticity in the system by our newcomers from the casino's. And since the normal BTC market buyers seem to be a little exhausted for the moment, I would not be surprised if we would not see a few more of these sudden out of the blue actions.



234. Post 25809673 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: becoin on December 05, 2017, 08:30:56 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.

You think it wrong as always. Bitcoin-euro trade is a drop in the bucket compared to Bitcoin-dollar, yen, yuan etc trade. The rest of the world simply doesn't care that bitcoin is at 10k euro price.

Of course the € trade is peanuts compared to USD/Yuan/Yen/Won trade. But look, the USD 12K plusminus corresponds to 10K€. So the denomination is maybe not so important, compared to the human factor.



235. Post 25883139 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Owjee, the devaluation of fiat feels like living in Weimar Germany... . And how that ended.



236. Post 25970671 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 08, 2017, 11:51:08 AM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-07/defense-bitcoin-hoarding

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Under old-style Keynesian theory, economic growth is driven by consumer spending, not saving, so anyone who is hoarding money under the mattress is holding back progress. Hoarders are the enemy. “Every such attempt to save more by reducing consumption will so affect incomes,” wrote J.M Keynes, “that the attempt necessarily defeats itself.” He popularized what became known as the “Paradox of Thrift.”

It’s supposed to be counterintuitive. You think that saving up for the future is a good thing. Whoops, you are hurting others and, in the long run, hurting yourself. You should be spending, even going into debt to spend.

But sometimes “counterintuitive” is just wrong. That is the case here. There is no paradox. The intuition is right. Thrift is a good thing, on the individual level or for the whole society. Deferring consumption is the necessary precondition to permit saving. Saving is never wasteful. It’s true that infinite saving is pointless but that’s not how this works.

You are always saving for something. The end of saving is eventual consumption in some form. More importantly for economic growth, saving is the precondition for investment. Investment is what extends the complexity of the structure of production. This leads to employment, expansion of the division of labor, and the eventual rise of wealth.

Good reading. (Between all the sensational soars-crashes).

For who might be interested : this is part one from a five part essay publishing on the Automatic Earth :

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-1/



237. Post 25992720 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 08, 2017, 08:04:12 PM


Currently fixing up a sleek and really cool looking motor boat

pics Ibian

pics
https://ibb.co/kQfoNw
https://ibb.co/eWG69b
https://ibb.co/eBqipb

That's what I have so far as pictures. It should be ready to hit the water this spring, gonna toot around on my first boat until it's ready. And when it is, taking a trip from Denmark down through europe.

It's essentially two big rooms, one of them a bunk twice as big as normal for boats that size and the other everything else. Has a toilet as well for when you want to float somewhere for a few days. And will have more electricity than I could possibly use in a week, including a 2000W inverter for a small oven and whatever else I might want to plug in.

Nice yes. We are looking for a small boat to use intra city. (If you want to visit Ghent Be, be welcome, you can anchor at our place right in the city centre).



238. Post 25994353 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: vroom on December 08, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
I put together a list of upcoming forks,  & an estimated fork date.

Bitcoin Platinum  https://bitcoinplatinum.github.io (12 Dec)
Super Bitcoin http://supersmartbitcoin.com   (17 Dec)
Bitcoin Uranium https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2316506 (31 Dec)
Bitcoin Cash Plus http://www.bitcoincashplus.org  (2 Jan)
--
Bitcoin Silver https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2311582.0;all (dead?)
Diamond BTC http://www.btcd.io/index.html#/  (?)



inflation or hodler dividend?

Infatuation maybe ?  Grin



239. Post 25994514 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 08, 2017, 08:31:19 PM
We seem to be a bit fixated on $15k in the run up to futures trading.

It 's like silence before the storm... . On Stamp, € trade, there sits over 20 mio bid, where it is usually between 14 and 16 mio and  1300 BTC Ask, where it is usually 600-900...



240. Post 26000487 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: realsteelboy on December 08, 2017, 11:07:30 PM
I need to be honest about something.

I didn't wear my hat today.

I did a bad thing.

I will not do it again.

CCMF

Ha, you did it !



241. Post 26017760 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2017, 09:13:19 AM
The situation with Kraken has just gone to the extreme. Previously you knew you had to plan the conditional limit orders in advance as it was completely unoperable during big moves... Now it has been two days since I haven't been able to even cancel my standing orders to finish my FULL moving out.

I understand exchanges to be overflowed by new users and high activity but this is beyond ridiculous. If you can't even cope with order cancelations just stop accepting new users or even stop all trading altogether.

At least my withdrawals are going out without much trouble (apart from having to send the order multiple times). So not saying they are thieves, just incompetent. The problem will come when I am not able to withdraw any funds reserved for standing orders I can't even cancel.

Putting, canceling orders = pain in the ... . Even logging in the account is a terrible experience... .



242. Post 26041830 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Torque on December 09, 2017, 05:54:47 PM
For your entertainment and viewing pleasure.

This is the "Gotta-scare-those-average-joes-away" and "See-I-told-ya-so-its-a-bubble-ponzi-scam" portion of the show.

Are you entertained?

Excited!



243. Post 26055321 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: becoin on December 09, 2017, 11:43:41 PM
After launch of bitcoin at CBOE futures

Then bitcoin becomes a casino gulag where the house always wins and there is no reason to go near it instead of metals.  In metals they can only naked short it to cost of production.  In bitcoin, cost of production is fully floating and recursive based on it's own demand via hashrate, so they can literally naked short it to 0 instead of some type of cost of production floor because no such thing even exists in bitcoin.  Shorting metals below cost of production causes miners to stop bringing gold and silver to market, so it's counterintuitive because it would just create scarcity, so they don't do it (or at least not for long periods of time).  Shorting bitcoin below cost of production forces miners to turn off, thus lowering the temporary cost of production floor even further while the supply from miners recirculating coins remains unchanged.  This is why naked shorting is FAR MORE detrimental to bitcoin than metals.

This is nonsense for a very simple reason. If there is gold price increase there will be increase in supply by opening more gold mines. if there is bitcoin price increase you can't increase supply by opening more bitcoin mines!


The whole futures narative will be a turd and fizzle into the coke filled brains of Wallstreet in a few days. Nothing to see in Coinlandia.



244. Post 26138374 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

I love the smell of burning casinos in the morning... .
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-10/cboe-website-crashes-futures-trading-begins-bitcoin-price-squeezed-10-higher



245. Post 26149263 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Torque on December 11, 2017, 04:00:53 PM
Did futures killed bitcoin volatility?
C'mon bitcoin.... do something, I'm bored

From here I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see Bitcoin move sideways for a couple months, with constant pumps up and dumps down inside a sideways channel.

Without a lot additional supply, the futures traders know that this market will go nowhere. So they are going to keep shaking the tree and see what falls out.

My bet: nothing will. And eventually they will get weary and just go long.

Yeps my thought also. The only thing that worries me, more and longer than the casino boys, is what will happen with theter and finex.



246. Post 26221270 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 12, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/its-official-bitcoin-surpasses-tulip-mania-now-biggest-bubble-world-history

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for now we just wanted to experience a moment of true zen serenity, knowing that we now stand in proximity to an asset bubble the magnitude of which has never before been observed by humanity.

Thanks central banks!

Funny that they don't mention:

China stock bubble of 2015

3D Printing stock bubble of 2013 (just pull up chart of SSYS or DDD, zoom out to max.... holy shit)

Kroger stock bubble of 2015 (zoom out chart)

Tesla stock bubble that started in 2013

Netflix stock bubble that started in 2012

Gold and Silver bubbles of 2011

...or really any of the other hundreds of typical bull/bear runs seen pretty much yearly around the world.. I guess Bitcoin is just so unique. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yep.. of course, if the start out with the presumption that bitcoin is a bubble, then they are going to categorize it with other bubbles....

Good luck with that; however, perhaps they will learn later, when we look in retrospect that a s-curve adoption phase does look like a bubble during its exponential growth period that may have just begun for bitcoin...

So, I sure hope that this is not a bubble, like all the so called "experts" are proclaiming.   I'm gonna have to laugh my bubble butt all the way to the bank...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  oh wait, we are dee bank.   Wink  I will have to laugh my bubble butt all the way to myself.  Wink

We now even have a daily 5 minutes "Bitcoin bashing" on our national radio. And they must go digging old economists from their graves to give their take on BTC... . Today there was confusion with a so called IT expert, about how it is possible that BTC consumes 13% of all electric power in Holland and 39% in Belgium... .If it weren 't so deplorable, I would laugh at it too.



247. Post 26224403 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 12, 2017, 08:27:56 PM
Quote from: Ludwig Von link=topic=178336.msg26221270#msg26221270
Today there was confusion with a so called IT expert, about how it is possible that BTC consumes 13% of all electric power in Holland and 39% in Belgium... .

If it weren 't so deplorable, I would laugh at it too.

That why i like the "infos" on forum :

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-11/no-bitcoin-wont-boil-oceans

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A recent report suggests that at current prices, Bitcoin miners will consume an estimated 8.27 terawatt-hours per year.

That might sound like a lot, but it’s actually less than an eighth of what U.S. data centers use, 1 and only about 0.21 percent of total U.S. consumption.

If I was a stupid person like me I'd be dead impressed by those figures. That would mean it MUST be worth mortgaging grandma if it costs more than the solar system to run.

Lol, what about mother in law?



248. Post 26226337 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 12, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
It's obvious what is happening, but us HODLers are historically reluctant to accept the facts we don't like.

You've started off in the right direction...

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There is no cure for this situation except Lightning network

...but you ran out of gas well short of the goal. Pity, that.

WuVer coin soon will go FUBAR, will solve the issue once and for all.

There is "Bitcoin" et puis tout le reste.



249. Post 26227529 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 12, 2017, 09:27:15 PM
WuVer coin soon will go FUBAR, will solve the issue once and for all.

There is "Bitcoin" et puis tout le reste.

It'll be integrated by Bitpay soon enough and then it's cemented forever. From that day on it'll be like an elderly man's penis in an opposing tower block that's flashed at you but you can do nothing about.

 Cheesy Since I live in a 16-th century city (micro) palace, there is zero chance for that to happen... .   Cool



250. Post 26228685 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Raoul posted the full story today, an absolutely must read for all... .

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-the-full-story/



251. Post 26231309 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 12, 2017, 10:54:01 PM
Raoul posted the full story today, an absolutely must read for all... .

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-the-full-story/

This is truly awesome. Very well written!

Didn't read it all yet, but the quote and it's conclusions "So money at its most austere is simply a promise" was kind of bullshit.  The real crux of the situation is that money is an imaginary or social construct humans use to try and gain leverage over one another, and so the further you abstract human trade away from barter, the bigger an immoral scam you have created.  THIS is why only physical commodity currencies can be money, whether it's gold, silver, oil, wheat, or what have you.  Anything that does not have some type of roots in the real world is a flat out scam because you're inherently trying to con other humans into accepting something of no value for a real world good of value.

Wether I borrow your fishing net with the promise to give you a fish, or a gram of gold or a satoshi, or a cent, it all remains the same : a promise that I will reward you for doing something for me. Money is  a means to facilitate barter. It only goes wrong when the facilitator is manipulated. And that is equally true for fiat or gold(look at the gold markets, it is laughable). So maybe you make the right point but are as misguided by the fiat scam as so many are. (we all are to some extend).



252. Post 26276576 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Torque on December 13, 2017, 10:17:44 PM
You know how in June/July the price just kept mysteriously moving up, but no one could figure out why?  Then in Nov out of the blue we get news that Futures are coming online in December and price is suddenly 6X higher than it was in June/July?

Yeah, that's the way announcement of Bitcoin ETFs will happen too.  People would be wise to start accumulating bitcoin now. Not being an insider, what is being planned today you won't find out about for another 6-8 months when it actually launches.

I am not so sure ETF 's will happen soon. That would mean no way back, honeybadger would be an officially recognized asset. (Which is two classes above futures). But as unhappy I am with this futures casino, double more happy I would be if ETF 's saw the light... .



253. Post 26398045 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 15, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
I'm a Trump-voting, libertarian-leaning conservative, and I'm fucking pissed.

There's a good debate here though: http://www.wnyc.org/story/net-neutrality-repeal-done-deal-open-question/

This is a better debate about it, where people claim net neutrality is socialist:

http://steemit.com/internet/@schattenjaeger/net-neutrality-is-not-a-human-right-it-s-socialism

And my reply to it:

Quote from: r0ach
What are you smoking? Net neutrality is the idea that you pay a flat fee to a broadband provider and they aren't allowed to manipulate your content. If they are allowed to manipulate your content, you aren't using an "internet", you're using an "intranet" because they will firewall off competitors or ideas they don't want people to have access too.

The end result is that there is no internet and there's only serfs who have the ability to choose which corporate walled garden (like the apple store) to subscribe to. So yea, you are sort of correct stating net neutrality is "socialism", if by that you mean all large, complex, public works projects are incapable of being done by the private sector because they don't have the land usage rights or millions of other rights to lay down pipes everywhere on other people's property to facilitate that business.

So I guess the argument boils down to the fact that socialism is anti-freedom, but can temporarily leverage resources to create larger, more complex structures than the private sector, before socialism inevitably collapses from immediately turning into crony capitalism. This makes "freedom" kind of a pro-Amish movement, but a free society will be less able to leverage resources to tackle big problems or create technological spectacles. This makes the Amish kind of right that technology is a deal with the devil. If you want the internet, then you want socialism, otherwise you're getting an intranet.

This one I like Roach. Maybe we should just consider internet, or any public service as a common, that would avoid the ideological - religeous zeolotery that always comes when the public domain is involved... .



254. Post 26420170 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 16, 2017, 08:53:22 AM
You know whats better than $300 Billion Bitcoin Market cap?

500?



255. Post 26423913 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: starmman on December 16, 2017, 10:35:42 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitstamp/new/

Should we be worried about bitstamp?
The reddit page doesn't look overly positive - hopefully its just a staffing issue - do they publish the addresses to their hot/cold storage?

I moved my main operations from Kraken to Stamp, because of the interface problems there, seems like going from a wet place to a rainy one.
And my lady opened a Stamp account 5 days ago and until now no confirmation of her verification data...



256. Post 26427832 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: somac. on December 16, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitstamp/new/

Should we be worried about bitstamp?

I am, I have a deposit that was sent to them on the 8th and still hasn't arrived yet. I've had a support ticket open for almost 3 days now, and they have not answered that. I've posted my issue on reddit and heard nothing.

I don't know what to make of it but I am getting somewhat concerned.

Taking on more users than they can properly serve. There ought to be an option to accelerate tickets. Replace by fee customer service.

I hope that is the case, someone else I know had there money go through pretty quick, so I wasn't overly worried. But, no answers from support or on reddit has me concerned.

And on Stamp, 15K€ looks a big wall, Kraken went over it, what is unseen in long time... .



257. Post 26444860 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 16, 2017, 05:41:04 PM
Explains a few things.

TBH, and I'm not proud to admit this, but with this unbelievable rise, it's resulted in an increased consumption of beer Sad

There was a period last night where my cryptoholdings went +~$2M over the course of drinking a single beer.

Sheeeeit.

Keep drinking please ! Cheers, I will open a very old trappist (West-Vleteren for the conoisseurs).



258. Post 26456261 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 16, 2017, 09:50:52 PM
https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/942145719225303040

hope it's a trading engine upgrade

They go offline the only moment their toaster is actually working? Weird guys there...



259. Post 26495353 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

And while the Pentagon looks at the sky for UFO 's, you can also read this on ZH, I quote a piece of the introduction :

"There is just one thing that cryptocurrency bulls love hearing more than Dennis Gartman bashing bitcoin, and that is Whitney Tilson bashing bitcoin. The reason is the same: just like Gartman, Tilson has rarely if ever been right about anything -in fact, it is almost safe to say that he has been largely wrong about everything - with the added bonuses that unlike Gartman, Tilson has blown up not one but two "hedge funds" (which really were copycats of other hedge funds)."

Enjoy... .



260. Post 26496596 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 17, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
And while the Pentagon looks at the sky for UFO 's, you can also read this on ZH, I quote a pice of the introduction :

"There is just one thing that cryptocurrency bulls love hearing more than Dennis Gartman bashing bitcoin, and that is Whitney Tilson bashing bitcoin. The reason is the same: just like Gartman, Tilson has rarely if ever been right about anything -in fact, it is almost safe to say that he has been largely wrong about everything - with the added bonuses that unlike Gartman, Tilson has blown up not one but two "hedge funds" (which really were copycats of other hedge funds)."

Enjoy... .

If Tilson was really a genius fund manager and could call a top on Bitcoin, then he wouldn't have to preface his prediction with "But for all I know it could go to $1M first" like all the other geniuses out there. That's just moving the goal posts waaayy out so he doesn't have to look wrong.

That's about as genius a statement as me saying "The U.S. stock market is in a bubble and is going to crash again one day, but for all I know the S&P 500 could hit 10k first!" There, I just said it. I guess I'm now as much of a genius as a billion dollar hedge fund manager then?

Well, those hedge funds did pop like a bubble... . And since we apparently live in the "Everything" bubble, especially debt, I think a lot is going to pop and it will smell very very bad. I struggle with the question if thqt would be good for BTC, money fleeing from stocks, bonds, real estate into BTC or money beeing taken out to pay off margin calls... .



261. Post 26500244 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 17, 2017, 05:41:39 PM
I only make about 1  transaction a week on average. It makes absolutely no sense for me to open up a LN channel. Furthermore, opening up a channel subjects me to a counterparty risk. The other party could transmit an earlier, more favorable tx to the blockchain and rip me off. Yes, if I catch the other party in time, I can invoke a penalty. However, this involves ensuring my Lightning Node is online 24/7 or enlisting a third party to monitor for me. Seems like a malicious hub could invoke DDOS attacks on vulnerable channels and known third party monitors effectively knocking them all offline and hightailing it with lots of BTC.
We will probably be able to enlist third party patrols and pay then with a part of the penalty/reward - which amounts to the FULL CHANNEL value! This is a strong incentive for would-be patrols. All it takes is ONE such guy to spot a cheating transactions and the thief is done. It's not like an individual patrol must keep its rig online 24/7. I think there will be very little cheating. It's way too risky for the perpetrator.

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?



262. Post 26501285 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 17, 2017, 05:48:40 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.



263. Post 26503550 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 17, 2017, 06:31:18 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.
This is the price to pay for instant transactions (no onchain confirmation), but I'd say LN's anti-cheating mechanism is near perfect. Anyone who spots a cheating transaction within 24 hours (I think - or was it 48?) of its timestamp can give the cheaters what they deserve and pocket a handsome reward. My bet is the network will be swarming with bounty hunters.

So the system that must allow us, average Joe 's to use BTC as money for everyday spending needs bounty hunters to avoid cheating? Why not ask the FBI or any of the alphabet agencies, they will be glad to do so... . I do not believe we need this kind of system... . Moreover, the hunter easily becomes the cheater in this kind of arrangements... .



264. Post 26508511 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 17, 2017, 08:28:57 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.
This is the price to pay for instant transactions (no onchain confirmation), but I'd say LN's anti-cheating mechanism is near perfect. Anyone who spots a cheating transaction within 24 hours (I think - or was it 48?) of its timestamp can give the cheaters what they deserve and pocket a handsome reward. My bet is the network will be swarming with bounty hunters.

So the system that must allow us, average Joe 's to use BTC as money for everyday spending needs bounty hunters to avoid cheating?
Short reply: Yes - just as the system that currently allows us to use BTC for not-everyday spending needs full nodes and miners and lots of electrical power.

Elaborating more. LN might need bounty hunters just to make sure every cheating attempt maked the "cheated" part end in profit (as well as the bounty hunter). I think the way it will work is that you open a channel with Starbucks, or Amazon, or some other reputable entity who has no interest at all in being labeled as a provable fraud (the cheat requires settling the channel on the blockchain, where it will be there for all to see forever). I guess most people who run full nodes will start a Lightning hub on the side, if it is even marginally profitable. There willl probably be blacklists and feedback scores for Average Joes who want to invest in facilitating channel opening without being Starbucks.

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Why not ask the FBI or any of the alphabet agencies, they will be glad to do so... . I do not believe we need this kind of system... .
You're answering yourself. We don't need alphabet agencies for that. That's why not.

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Moreover, the hunter easily becomes the cheater in this kind of arrangements... .
Have you read some documentation on how LN works? I don't mean the full technical spec - that's a lot and it requires a highly degree of techno competence in crypto. There was a good, accurate but simple explanation that I can't locate right now. Maybe reading that could help you feel more at ease. Now if anyone would be so kind to link a suitable web page...





Thanks for the extra info and I will be glad to read the laymans explanation.
I am always sceptical towards solutions that tend to be more complicated than the problem. And as far as it concerns broad adoption, that is the single most important aspect.

About the system, I meant we do not need a system that needs policing of any kind.



265. Post 26539665 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 18, 2017, 11:37:01 AM

Both stocks and bitcoin are nothing more than crowd sourced pump and dumps so the degree of trust is entirely determined by personal investment.  If anything, that article is kind of a warning sign that much of the retail investor is already in on bitcoin leaving not as many greater fools to buy higher.

Actually you are dead wrong. The stock market and the Bitcoin market are nothing alike. Equities are designed, structured and launched to enrich only the 1% on day 0. The Bitcoin market is the closest that mankind has had to a "free market" in hundreds of years.

You need to do some research before you speak..

As usual, real world will sit somewhere in the middle. And doing research only to have your own convictions and beliefs confirmed is not really research, what I suspect Roach being good at... .



266. Post 26555953 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 18, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
Funny how we live in this bizarro world where Jamie Dimon calls Bitcoin a fraud, but J.P. Morgan upgrades Twitter and says it's one of the best buys of 2018. A company that literally makes no money and cannot be monetized.  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/twitter-shares-jump-after-jpmorgan-upgrades-the-stock.html

What is that saying again, it is difficult to make a man understand something if his salary depends on not understanding it? We could generalize this easily to the whole cohort of Wallstreet, CB's and Academics... .



267. Post 26598898 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

ZH did not yet pronounce Crash, smash, armageddon, so nothing to see here... . Yet.



268. Post 26626079 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BP-LIntM6c



269. Post 26627534 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Fakhoury on December 19, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Just came to say Hi and to share something euphoric about the future Smiley




What the hell happened to you, since about May-ish?

I have read many speculations about you no longer being with us?

Another extreme dear brother showing up, my dear JJG.

Have been drowning into the crypto twitter ocean and IRL issues.

But finally back and gave our bullish thread a push  Tongue

I've missed you all brother, hopefully I won't fade away again  Smiley

EXACTAMENTE!!!

Even though each of us have our differing styles, your style has been missed - yet it seems a bit extreme, too, of you, to post 2-10 bullish media articles per day for several months (and spoil many of us), and then completely disaparecer for 6 months -ish.

In any event, I am glad to see you back, and I look forward to posts and your perspective.

O..k..  One other point that I would like to make is that I had frequently asserted that you were much more bullish than me regarding short term BTC price performance - especially if we look back to our interactive posts in the late 2015 time frame and even the ones in the mid-to-late 2016 time frame.  So, it seems that you were much closer in your assessment than me, because current BTC prices are running about 3x to 4x higher than my most likely bullish assessments of those times.

I confess my brother, I'm an extremist.

I'm not a moderate person and an insane risk taker, so let it be whatever it meant to be.

I did you miss you a lot my dear brother and missed our talks a lot and here they are back again Wink

My new targets are as follows, and you are free to call me an insane/crazy person, I know I'm mentally mad :

2018 will end at $100,000
2020 will end at $1,000,000

We are just warming up and we ain't seen anything yet, wait to witness 2018, it's will be a mind-blowing year.

Allright i’m In for that ..... let us start Going back up from This small dip 🤗

Every dip SHOULD be treated as a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to buy some cheap coins, always BTFD.

Since I spent the "Plunge protection fund" already, time to sell the mother in law, auction the wife off, put half of the furniture on E-bay, rob the nightshop and eventually tomorrow also the local pub...



270. Post 26627948 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 19, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
17k is basically holding.  It looks like a strong support area.  I can't begin to imagine how much it costs to move the price down as they just did.  Does anyone have statistics to offer - like number of coins dumped, or a similar metric?

No idea, but is is planned actions to initiate a sell-off for sure, no external triggers to be seen. (I still must read the paper on LN, will be weekend).



271. Post 26628353 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Ah, and finally here is the trigger :

(it took ZH long to figure it out this time Grin)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing



272. Post 26629739 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 19, 2017, 10:22:22 PM
Ah, and finally here is the trigger :


I never knew the Danish central bank and some bloke from Blockchain.com spouting utter nonsense with his BeeCash crap would have an effect on the market.

It was simply time for a correction.

But as usual, pity humans seek a reason for the decline, because their brains crave for it. Simply 'correction' does not count, it should be a 'story' each and everything. I no longer become mad about this delusional mass psychology, since the same mechanisms slings a digital asset upwards towards being the numeraire.

As you probably did understand, it is with a sarc tag... .



273. Post 26629905 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: strawbs on December 19, 2017, 10:16:17 PM
Ah, and finally here is the trigger :

(it took ZH long to figure it out this time Grin)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing

Anyone who uses ZeroHedge as their news source deserves to have sold at the bottom

I hope you do not consider me as taking ZH as my news source... . But probably millions are doing so, time to sell the house(and all that goes with it) and be ready to buy the bottom... .



274. Post 26630179 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 19, 2017, 10:13:14 PM
Ah, and finally here is the trigger :

(it took ZH long to figure it out this time Grin)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing
Fuck Denmark.

member fuck denmark?

Actually, when it comes to ZH and BTC, it is mostly causing unstoppable laughter cramps... .



275. Post 26632790 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Wow, never seen selling 153 coins at once . (Stamp Euro trade)



276. Post 26632862 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 12:14:55 AM

Every time Coinbase has a chance to retain or regain my respect, they lose even more.

Pretty soon they'll just be a Cryptsy 2.0 shitcoin peddler.

So, what was announced for January 2018 is happening now? Crazy coincidences ... .



277. Post 26633039 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 20, 2017, 12:19:10 AM
So, what was announced for January 2018 is happening now? Crazy coincidences ... .

The only thing scheduled for Jan was the release of the coins. That hasn't happened as far as I can tell.

They said nothing about going full retail until they just did.

Ha, yes ok, a teaser before the release. Well Gentlemen, I think we are not just going for a rough ride now, but for a terribly rough ride... .



278. Post 26676304 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 20, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
This will be the fastest and most brutal Bitcoin bounce back ever.

Wait for it.

Well I hope so, repeating this is not sustainable, I sold the mother inlaw, auctioned the wife, sold furniture yesterday already. Noting much left but to rob the local pub. And this I only can do
if I know for sure that I can walk back in there the next day saying that it was only a loan... .



279. Post 26690583 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Ladies, Gentlemen, it is really simple : we are taking a terrible beating from the WuVer clan. I hope we will be ready soon to return the favour.

And the machinations with Coinbase, I hope they get burned badly.



280. Post 26727186 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):


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More like Bitcoin is Steve Jobs and BCash is Tim Crook.
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Good one, I always make that lapsus too... .



281. Post 26727907 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 02:41:23 PM
Good one, I always make that lapsus too... .

Should be this:

Quote
"Winning has never been about making the most. Winning is about making only one viable product, and then gaslighting people into believing it is the best."
- Tim Cook


Crook it is !



282. Post 26746932 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 09:10:51 PM
I actually noticed back in my days at university that the academics who used "I" in their talks instead of "we" or "one" tended to be a complete waste of attention (with very few exceptions). May or may not be related.

Completely related.

Blowhards that are haughty and full of themselves. They overestimate their own intellect, skills, and importance in the world.

Deep down inside they are completely insecure and miserable.

And that explains their love for VerWu shit. It has leaders they can follow to compensate for their own insecurity and lack of initiative. Give them a leader... . And they will follow...



283. Post 26748088 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 21, 2017, 09:40:45 PM
Who the hell are you? You joined in 2015. Fuck off you twit
BobLawblaw
 October 18, 2015, 10:19:19 PM
Nikauforest
 March 08, 2014, 04:33:35 AM
* BobLawblaw pats nikauforest on the head for not being able to see the forest through the trees
Ooh, a dick measuring contest. This oughta be good.
Aww, bless them Smiley

 Undecided

But... but... he started it !!

Ahja, but you enjoyed it! (and made me and probably more people laugh loud, thanks for that, it softens looking at the charts a bit) Cheesy



284. Post 26749529 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 10:16:30 PM
Edit: Either way, does not the law say that you mention that bad money expels good money? I do not understand your logic.

Gresham's Law:
Bad money tends to circulate, pushing good money into holding (aka storage).

And oh boy, are the BCash crew pushing it as a better form of spending, thus circulating money (ie. lower transaction fees).

Same with Litecoin. I remember when even Coblee was saying "Bitcoin is for holding, and Litecoin is for spending." He was basically shooting litecoin in the foot with such statements.

But let's be real for a second.

1. e-Commerce is rarely if ever happening with crypto. It just isn't. Even if the coin is supposedly "better or faster" for spending.

2. Traders want lower transaction fees for more trading and no fee friction. That's it.

3. Miners HATE hodlers, because they get no transaction fee revenue if coins just sit.

4. The establishment would love nothing better than HFT on-chain. But of course, they will never ever achieve such a thing.

What commerce expects from a currency is in the first place stability of value. So none of the current cryptos is suitable. And indeed traders love the opposite, volatility. So basically in the end lower fees will not stimulate commerce, but trading. And probably HFT and all the casino wizzardry. The whole argumentation by the big blockers is just mist and smoke screens for one thing : the third motivation Peter R. metioned for WuVer : get filthy rich on the back of all others.



285. Post 26750430 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 21, 2017, 10:41:57 PM
Where are we going NOW  Smiley  Smiley

Nowhere yet. Too weak, no appetite for the moment.



286. Post 26750602 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
So basically in the end lower fees will not stimulate commerce, but trading.

Just like corporate tax cuts will not stimulate wage growth or the economy, but more company stock buy-backs and maybe a tiny, one-time employee bonus for show.

Lol  Grin

Yeah, here in Be it goes under the name of "Taxshift" and the narrative is the employees will have 2€ more on their paychecks... . (The boss will have a few million extra on the share buybacks that will be
represented as Capex for further growth and more employees).



287. Post 26780618 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Hoi Mic,

Smijt mij er maar in op 19 -1 ( indien al bezet, 20 )

Grts

L



288. Post 26798643 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2017, 05:06:54 PM
Hoi Mic,

Smijt mij er maar in op 19 -1 ( indien al bezet, 20 )

Grts

L

beide bezet maar post effe iets kortbij zijn nog wel paar vrij gr

Dan ineens naar 10-4, verjaardag nigh... . Cheesy



289. Post 26799980 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: 600watt on December 22, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
GF's out at a lesbian bar, BTC crashing WHY AM I HOLDING?


 Cool

Now that is a Conspiracy !  Cheesy



290. Post 26809337 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 23, 2017, 12:14:04 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Am I happy to be a Be citizen, now. Null tax as long as I behave like a good housefather. (Means not to much sex and drugs and R&R).  Cheesy



291. Post 26832764 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Icygreen on December 23, 2017, 12:48:13 PM
It's a kinda strange sense of certainty I get the more BTC is attacked. The high transaction fees and long confirmations is an increased incentive to hodl. While those new to crypto of the last 30 days are freaking out at BTC's correction and trying to trade alts, I've never felt more bullish in my hodlings.   In fact, its exactly what I did before I joined the buy and hodl only team.  I'm thinking there's a good possibility of some big news around the corner in response to the past several days.  
I can confirm that lots of eager "new" investors got spooked recently. Next gen hodlers?


Yeah well, this time I did something stupid. I had an old stop loss order sitting at 10300€. Long forgotten. And then when the drop started, it came in sight and when I tried to cancel it, Kraken went in 502 and all the other cloudflare tricks, by the time I had access to cancel it, the order was closed... . Now sitting with 20% of my stash converted to worthles €toiletpaper... . Pff



292. Post 26842623 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Did you  make the same observation on Stamp : someone sells 1400 BTC  (@0.21) for 6750BCH. This gigantic wall prevents BCH from going below 0.21 for quite some time... .



293. Post 26902836 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 24, 2017, 08:15:00 PM
OT: Theranos.

Why in the hell do investors keep giving this shit company money? They have been at it over a decade now and they have nothing, zero, zilch, nada. Their supposed super secret IP is a complete fraud, a scam. They haven't made a dime on anything. Their CEO jet sets around and lives like a billionaire queen, and has been doing so for ten years now. She's delusional and thinks that she is the next Steve Jobs.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/theranos-gets-100-million-debt-181505187.html

It’s debt and probably secured against the only real assets the company has left (whatever those are).  Also drawdown is highly conditional. 

It 's all about the Collar... .



294. Post 27204158 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on December 30, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

MERRY XMAS TO Y'ALL     AND GOOD LUCK

Nice, so plopping all the dates into Excel and converting/calculating gives:

4/3/18      Average
2/19/18      Median



We love you, Santa Geek!   Kiss

Haha maybe to turn into eastern bunny geek after hitting 24777 ( if we get iT in time)

Any which exchange will you use to determine winner ?


Stamp

It 's gonna be 04/10 !



295. Post 27355746 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on January 02, 2018, 04:17:02 PM
Thank you guys for helping me out, Im from the Netherlands..
So Where can i buy it in the best Way..

Thanks for responding  Grin

I am Belgian, ordered my Trezor direct from SatoshiLab, paid in BTC (that makes it a very expensive one now Cheesy), it was deliverd home after one week.



296. Post 27360508 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: Torque on January 02, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
Quote
What was our truly dumbest comment of 2017? There is no question: it was, and is and shall be going into the New Year our statements regarding Bitcoin. We thought it was a bubble at $5,000. We thought it was a Bubble at $10,000 and at $15,000 and at $20,000. We thought it would crash and burn long ago and clearly we were wrong

Dennis Gartman

And yet the U.S. stock market is the most overvalued of any point since the Roaring Twenties, but eh no problem it's perfectly fine.  Roll Eyes

And I guess it gets lost on Dennis that the Wallstreet establishment is desperate to first get a Bitcoin Futures market and then Bitcoin ETFs propped up and fast. They surely aren't going through all the trouble and effort because they want to use them to fleece a bunch of supposedly dumb millennials. That wouldn't be worth the effort. So why the sudden rush? After all these years of Bitcoin being around, why now?

Perhaps Wallstreet views Bitcoin as an "uncorrelated asset" (read: not overleveraged and over-collateralized to the moon like equities)? Perhaps they know something bad is coming 12-18 months from now? Or that a Black Swan could come out of nowhere any moment?

Remember, Gartman is very famous for consequently, never failing, making wrong predictions, (publically at least). So this is not good news for us.  Cheesy



297. Post 27373235 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 02, 2018, 11:17:33 PM
Gold that thing with lots of mothball mine's waiting to come out of retirement when gold is worth x. with modern extraction techniques that make the old days and numbers comparison totally obsolete.

You bitcoin shill bugmen really are clueless about metals.  It requires moving twice the tonnage of dirt right now to get one ounce of silver as it did just over one decade ago (then add 2007-2017 printing and inflation on top of that). Peak gold and silver have just occurred recently.  All the low hanging fruit is taken first; only much more costly stuff is left in the ground.  There is no super secret technology to move exponentially increasing amounts of dirt using the same amount of energy as before.  Most of these machines involved are running on diesel.

The govt is afraid that letting stocks implode will cause the boomercucks to riot since all retirement funds are tied to them, plus the oil industry has mega amounts of bad debt that could probably blow up the whole system as well if they don't try to inflate that away.  Govt is clearly attempting some type of last ditch effort to float the system by having a 1970's inflation epidemic.  Metals went up 10x last time this happened in an 8 year span. Putting money into bitcoin and praying some other scammer pumps the valueless tokens is gambling.  Putting all your money into the base of Exter's pyramid (gold and silver) and waiting for the 10x is not gambling.


That is why I have 30% in metals... .



298. Post 27678151 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 07, 2018, 11:07:29 PM
Just crazy story one off the noob friends i have Got into btc like 1,5 years back .... Just told me he converted all his btc into bch  Shocked thinking he Made a good move like wtf i’m Speechless what do i say to Him

On a certain timeline there is only Bitcoin, all others will die. For different reasons : greed.



299. Post 28339606 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: julian071 on January 17, 2018, 03:56:08 PM
Goddamnit 30 hours have passed since I did a SEPA transfer to Kraken and it still isn't there =(

This afternoon I scraped together all remaining money I have and did another SEPA transfer, this time making it a high priority payment, costing € 5,-. It was there within 30 minutes. Apparently three confirmations is enough.

I made a Sepa transfer to Kraken yesterday, arrived in 6 hours, made another one this morning, not yet arrived... .

Meanwhile, were is the floor? Because my "Plunge Protection Fund" is running empty... .



300. Post 28579169 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 20, 2018, 11:58:02 PM


Forgot : Sex and drugs and Rock&Roll... .



301. Post 28711113 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 22, 2018, 09:31:35 PM
whelp there it is, for better or worse I'm all in again

Not yet, not yet... .



302. Post 28717115 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 22, 2018, 09:47:52 PM
whelp there it is, for better or worse I'm all in again

Not yet, not yet... .

oh I hear you, but I'm trying to focus on making good trades, not great trades...taking emotion out and all that

seems like every time I get nervous and pull an order, or worse, chase an executed order, I end up wishing I had not

One of the nice things Honeybadger teached me is to not get nerveous... . Even after doing something stupid, in the rear view... .



303. Post 28979184 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: fluidjax on January 26, 2018, 03:38:33 PM
Looks like CME drop was a damp squib, and people are gonna panic to buy back in.

This guy reckons its unlikely, but there could be a last minute sell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7syd2c/expiring_futures_tomorrow_not_so_fast/

At what time (CET) they expire exactly again? I am pretty sure some of the actions in the past 24 Hours are related.



304. Post 28997445 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 26, 2018, 08:38:22 PM
So I just got some sobering news.  It seems that the ringleader/alpha dog of my old PM stacking crew has died.  He was a pretty large gentleman, with a caloric appetite to match, but was about my age.  This guy stacked silver all his adult life, rode through the $4x spike because, of course, it is going MUCH higher right?

At the risk of rOaching out, I actually still believe that Ag WILL go much higher...someday...unfortunately that day was not soon enough for my friend.

The market can indeed remain irrational longer than you can...um...remain...




it's got me thinking

Did he go happy? Condolence anyway. And yes unfortunately there is that Keynes quote... .



305. Post 29097407 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Ok I just read the latest article about Tether on Coindesk. I read between the lines that Theter did not want Friemann to dig too deep. That 's it guys, Tether is over and out. Now what will be the consequences?



306. Post 29101781 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on January 28, 2018, 12:36:47 PM
Tether is over and out. Now what will be the consequences?
.. Won't believe it until it happens.


The question for me is : how to prepare for it to happen? Not just sit and wait.



307. Post 29103354 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on January 28, 2018, 01:53:26 PM
The difference between Mt.Gox and Bitfinex is that, at that time, bitcoin had few use cases, and few exchanges, whereas now, is much more widespread, with lots of use cases and exchanges (there are even people using it to buy cars and houses).

So a Bitfinex scandal would not affect the price as much as Mt.Gox did.


Its not about bitfinex, its about tether. Count the number of exchanges with real! USD support - Coinbase, Bitstamp, Gemini and Kraken - thats it.
Now imagine "the market" realizes that there are 2.2Billion worthless "USD" in the system, which where used to pump up the price from 1k$ to 20k$.
Somebody will be the bagholder for those 2.2Billion.

Isn 't the majority of Tethers not sitting on Finex? On Kraken, there is very little volume with it.



308. Post 29103504 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: fabiorem on January 28, 2018, 02:00:52 PM
Its not about bitfinex, its about tether. Count the number of exchanges with real! USD support - Coinbase, Bitstamp, Gemini and Kraken - thats it.
Now imagine "the market" realizes that there are 2.2Billion worthless "USD" in the system, which where used to pump up the price from 1k$ to 20k$.
Somebody will be the bagholder for those 2.2Billion.


The bagholders would be the ones holding tether, not bitcoin.

In relation to bitcoin, this looks like a orchestrated FUD. It already happened before, when price was starting to rise.

We should not mistake between smoke from the BBQ and smoke from a starting fire... .



309. Post 29108029 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Samarkand on January 28, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
...

1) Tether is not only used by Bitfinex but spread through multiple exchanges. You you would have to count every cold storage (or see how much Tether is at Bitfinex vs. BTC at Bitfinex)
...

Possible. However, I think this is the wrong approach. Let´s say Tether is exposed as a fraudulent enterprise and
the price drops of USDT drops to nearly zero. People currently have more than 300M $ of USDT on Poloniex according
to the Tether rich list. Why would the Poloniex cold wallets matter in this situation? They are under no obligation to
redeem the 300M $ of USDT for anything. The same applies to Bittrex, Binance, Huobi and so on in my opinion.

Let me illustrate my point using a further example.
1. We are in the November of 2017 and Bob decides to sell 10 BTC for 100k $ on his favorite exchange, Bitfinex.
2. Bob decides that altcoins are the future (poor Bob  Grin ) and wants to withdraw his 100k $ to his favorite
altcoin exchange, Poloniex.
3. Bitfinex has no working fiat withdrawals at this point in time and Poloniex has no fiat banking relationships either.
4. Luckily there is this internet money called Tether.
5. Bob has read on the Tether website that he can "Get the joint benefits of open blockchain technology and traditional currency".
6. Bob is fascinated by this technology and he withdraws 100k of USDT from Bitfinex to Poloniex.
7. Bob dabbles in altcoins and after losing nearly all of his investment he just wishes that he could
turn back time to just keep his Bitcoin on a hardware wallet and never send them to a sketchy exchange.
8. After reading a post by realr0ach he rails against his fate even more, because even buying physical silver
would have been a better choice than dabbling in altcoins  (#in Physical Silver we Trust).

Ok, I admit that I got a little carried away here  Grin

But the gist is that the cold storages of all the altcoin exchanges are not relevant for the
backing of outstanding Tethers, because they are under no obligation to give their users anything
for their USDT if the price of USDT decreases enormously.

Of course ideally even the Bitfinex cold wallet would be irrelevant for the backing of Tethers,
because the outstanding USDT should be backed by actual fiat money in real bank accounts.





It does not need to go off with a big bang of course. Probably more and more users are smelling the danger and will effectively change their Tethers for other coins. This way in the end it is the exchanges that will knock on theter 's door... .



310. Post 29112667 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Torque on January 28, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
I predict that so much of late 2017's run up was by deep pocket institutional investors (and not retail), that we may see a long period of boring market action sideways for 6-8 months. Maybe longer.

Only boring relative to last year's craziness though. I'm thinking 2018 could be very much like 2016, slow and steady. Make no mistake though, institutional investors will continue to accumulate OTC. Someone has to buy all those newly minted coins each day/month.

That is the best new years wish ever... . I hope it will happen like that. (small swings may be welcome on a regular base to help increase our stash a bit).



311. Post 29181824 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on January 29, 2018, 03:31:10 PM
$12000 in 6 hours confirmed

Hey Mate! Is this what your beloved optimism chart say?
I know it can do better than that: am I right?  Wink


I agree with this one.  Cool
as a matter of fact it is. Unfortunately I don't have 200 million dollars to make it happen. something in my gut tells me $12000 is not that far away once the tether fud has subsided.


No worry, I gave you ten merrits, makes up for a few hundred millions of fiat... .  Wink Wink



312. Post 29191929 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 29, 2018, 08:01:30 PM
Huh Whats merit standing for ?

Something you can give to someone for a good post as a reward... . If you give one, you cannot undo it if the promise is not held...  Wink Wink



313. Post 29406000 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 01, 2018, 06:39:51 PM
So if we rhyme with 2014 we go to $7k in next two weeks, have a quick rally to 11.5-12k before going back into bear mode and closing the year around $2.5k, from there recovery can begin with potential for New ATH in late 2020. Same multiple increase from 1/15 low to 12/17 high. Would give us a circa $320k high in 12/21 (EDIT). See you all in three years.

We have quite a different set of scenarios than we had in 2014 - so it is a bit more difficult to suggest that currently we are on the path of  BTC price performance that is analogous to 2014... you could be correct, but I don't think that the 2014 scenario quite applies to our current BTC situation   

A more likely scenario that I could see would be that we are in a kind of 2013 scenario, where the first rise in BTC prices is followed by a drop and then another rise in BTC prices.  Accordingly, we have achieved our first BTC price rise when prices went from $250 to $19,666.   Yet, these kind of analogies do not quite apply with any kind of exactness, so perhaps we would need to project our bouncing upwards point as starting at either $1k in early 2017 or more likely $2,600 starting off in August 2017, because I cannot see reasonable scenarios, in this particular seemingly ongoing Bull market that BTC prices are going below $5k (before we go back up), except perhaps a spike below $5k.  If we end up going below $5k for any kind of substantial time (other than a spike), then certainly my tune  (and assessment) would change, and I would thereafter consider that we are actually in a bear market as you suggest - but we cannot call a bear market merely because we are in about a 6 week price correction.. that is way too premature, even if you end up being correct about the ultimate playing out of the situation.

I will agree with you that if we substantially break $5k this time around, then $2.5k would likely be a next area of support and at that point, we would be in a bear market that is potentially extended out, like the one in 2014.  In this case, I think that the more likely scenario is a floor that is $7 or $8k, and perhaps a spike down to $5k or $6k, and we would still remain in a bull market with a decently long price correction. 

It does seem that a decent amount of support has been broken in the $10k territory, yet I still consider there is going to continue to be support for buying in the 4 digits, so if the price goes down, it is going to have to be on continued and ongoing volume and there is going to continue to be decent levels of support that continues all the way down to $7500.

The 8500-7500 USD floor is what also ML seems to think. And I am also going from that as a premisse.



314. Post 29459998 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 02, 2018, 02:13:39 PM
Masterluc thinks it's over.

Quote from: Masterluc
Well, so the present drop ends somewhere in the red circle.

So, the price hit somewhere close to 61.7% Fibonacci of the entire growth from 150 to 19800.

You know what it means? That the Third (wave?) is completed and we became its witnesses =) For this, congratulations to you.

What's next? Next is the Fourth (going on now). And then the Fifth somewhere in the area of ​​100k.

The current drop will bounce back very well into the area of ​​13,000-15,000 in the short term, where those who bought up on my advice will be able to sell off, but have already managed to curse everything and wet the diapers. Bleed there, because it is not for you.

The critical level at 7700 does not really matter anymore, because I see that the wave is over.

Well, here's my idea for trading watching https://ru.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/hg0S8xjw-historical-3-looks-to-be-completed/



And a lot of fun with the google translations of the typical Russian metaphors.... .



315. Post 29467437 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Now the question : what is different between yesterday and today? Or is it not yet completely over?



316. Post 29483614 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 02, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
Probably your last chance as I guess they will ban cheerleaders altogether as they are so incredibly offensive like the F1 pit girls according to maniac uber liberals.
I mean it's not as if sex helped anyone to get here in the first place, right?

It's not men trying to exploit women, it's women trying to exploit men.  Women were never the breadwinners in evolution.  If men traditionally have the resources, the woman then evolves into trying to con the man into giving them up.  This is why women score better at linguistics than men and speak more words per day on average.  Linguistics is basically the art of manipulation and conning people.  The women who were not good at conning people all died and didn't pass on their genes.  

That's why the Jews - the most well-known scammers - score higher in linguistics than anyone.  It's not intelligence, it's just straight up mastery of fraud.  If a woman is talking to a man, generally she is trying to trick him into doing shit for her.  If that fails to work, or as a dual prong attack, she can also fall back onto portraying herself as a sex object then trying to extort the man for resources using that.  If it was up to me, I would ban women from wearing makeup and dressing like bimbos just because it's all part of sketchy con game to try and manipulate people and I'd force them to get by on more legit means.

Roach, are you aware that you are using more words than anyone else (maybe except JJG Wink ) on this forum?   Smiley



317. Post 29601258 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

I wonder about that chart I had to look at, when I asked what was  different... .

Now almost @ 8000 USD, so we are entering in uncharted territory... .



318. Post 29602091 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 04, 2018, 04:29:47 PM
I wonder about that chart I had to look at, when I asked what was  different... .

Now almost @ 8000 USD, so we are entering in uncharted territory... .

I can miss further dipping .... short while steady @ 9-10k No big problem but don’t like us to go under 7.5  anymore ....

Just sit and wait  for the same guys that kicked it up on Friday... . They also read charts apparently... .



319. Post 29613371 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on February 04, 2018, 07:22:49 PM
Damn what a bloody months/days we have....
When Will it stop?  Huh

Don 't worry, the plunge protection team will come back, like Friday. Only wait for US office hours... . Wink



320. Post 29654788 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: TERA2 on February 05, 2018, 01:44:36 PM
What is all this talk about DOW falling? Last time I checked it was 18K. Now I just looked and it 25K? Woah this is insane what is it doing so high? ITs just like Bitcoin - I'll never get why people freak out over a 5% dip after a huge rally and exxagerate over how much of a "crash" it is. Are markets supposed to only go up in staggered line?

There is so much borrowed funny money, so much leverage in that Ponzi that a drop of 5% can cause catastrophy.



321. Post 29657971 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 05, 2018, 02:46:22 PM
$1500 in 1 week incoming.

lol

bcash lovers..you can spot them from miles away.

If Bitcoin were to hit $1500 again, I shudder to imagine what bcash and all the other shitcoins will be at.

Whatever the shitcoins ain’t not important , but for btc itself a dip all the way down to 1500 wouldn’t be great as well the dip can be Big but Some people need a break or not even they that believes cannot stomach such massive dips
If you look at the one year and two year chart, then logically we would floor at somewhere between 5000-5500€ . But there is always unlogic overshoot, so my guess is between 4500-5500€.




322. Post 29676616 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Gentlemen, look on the bright side : we are officially no longer a bubble. So that kind of fud can be refuted by any of us, even no academic title needed to support the argument.

And this also shines another light on Mr Dimons change of mind towards BTC. He is a clearvoyant man after all.

So we are over our Hokusai cliff, meaning not only a drop in value but also a regression in time. (Back to october17)... . Wink Wink



323. Post 29703018 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on February 06, 2018, 08:06:59 AM
This isnt possible man still going lower
This is a fucking crash a bloothbath
3rd world war Damn hollecaust this isnt normal anymore guys...

Healthy correction, bruh.

Bruhhhh this isnt a healthy correction, all the Way down to 4.7k? Nahhh
I am a holder But this isnt good for bitcoin holders And for the world that want to
Buy bitcoin. Beceause there thinking iT Will crash like this if we buy... we Will lose money.

This is called a crash all the Way down from €16k down to 4.7k nahhh
Personnaly i do not like This big crashes as well ..., but like my hombre said he would be more worried with the straight line up whitout serious correction than like whats happening now
Should be more thinking like the Guy’s saying if iT Goes under 5k$ sell the house and go ALL IN
The market needed a good shake up he said and Thats whats happening So after This more adoption more fresh FIAT more fresh hodlers more cool projects on the side and Just ceep calm and do hodl thru and do ride them bumpy-grumpy waves



Ye But what i Dont understand is, we had many corrections When we hitted 16k€ range.

We dropped many times to €12k - €15k And even more down then up again..


We are not in a a crash, no where near. Yoy we are up 500% which is healthy growth. Only the exessive decandent exuberance is corrected off. For which I am thankfull,it allowed to increase btc stash, and some fiat to spend on sex and drugs and R&R.



324. Post 29825356 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Some fight in the saloon?  Wink



325. Post 30100650 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: infofront on February 11, 2018, 09:56:50 PM

Happened that I'm tired arguing with you about obvious. You stated:
Quote
Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers)
and I've shoved you the figures that in 1944 when the Germans where truly defeated there were 3,370,000 Hitler's fighters confronted to 6,425,000 Soviet fighters. If that complies with your definition of one elephant vs huge number of ants then I'm out of the discussion. You are right that those 3,3M fighters had better technology, were better trained, had superior command infrastructure and still they are defeated by 6.4M fighters. It certainly was not the "ant psychology" that gained victory with such less then 1:2 number difference.

Hitler was a retard when it came to military science. His strategies were terrible, and his micromanagement was even worse. If he would've left the war to the generals, most of Eurasia would be speaking German now.

If Hitler had it left to the generals (Heer, not the SS ones), there would have been no war at all.



326. Post 30104286 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 11, 2018, 11:21:10 PM
8185 gonna get broken soon
broken

Et alors? Even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day... .

Good for my stash, keep on for a week or so... .



327. Post 30835174 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 22, 2018, 01:42:04 PM
The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

I have to agree with this reading of things. Torque might be a master of paranoid thinking and a conspiracy nut, but more often than not subsequent events agree with his (broad stroked, not numerically pinpointed) predictions.

Ever notice that after a day or two of nothing but down across all cryptos, suddenly out of the blue some random shitcoin that no one expected will start pumping for no reason? Yeah, the whales do that on purpose... to concentrate all of their new $$$ resources on one pump and lure in the gullible.

Couldn 't agree more. Looking at the events where we pump on thin air and drop as a  deflating balloon in a sequence with an almost fixed frequency for no reason connected to the real world is more than explaining enough...



328. Post 30855539 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: suchmoon on February 22, 2018, 07:20:11 PM
If money printing presses send money to Central Banks, and CBs buy Amazon stocks, and Jeff Bezos uses that investment money to fund the clock, then....

yes it is. The public is paying for it one way or another.

Central banks buy Amazon stock? From Bezos personally?

I kinda doubt it. Try some other conspiracy route, maybe one that says we're all slaves or some such shit.

The Swiss national bank (CB) is now one of the biggest holders of AAPL stock... .
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-07/guess-who-owns-11-billion-apple-stock



329. Post 30931190 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 23, 2018, 09:29:52 PM
I married a woman who was smarter, wealthier and better looking than me.  It’s working out fine.

I did that twice, so far it went well two times... .  Wink And I never gave up my own homestead... .



330. Post 31066897 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 25, 2018, 08:19:14 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief

Makes me smile...



331. Post 31440949 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 02, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
The lastest from Masterluc:

Quote
Have thrown the schedule. I completely agree. Moreover, I have been talking about this since the fall: 20,000-consolidation-100,000

The truth here is to use the function y = √x instead of trend lines this is certainly know-how. Thanks, masturbate. But this is very correct, because it is this function that describes the emission of bitcoin.



What's even funner about this is it is him in agreement with "Parabolic Trav".

Russians have a great sense of irony and self relativating sarc.



332. Post 31504867 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 03, 2018, 05:41:23 PM
Edit: nope, he all outta sMerits. No fellatios for me Undecided

I've still 70 left. Though being not a source, my demands are expectedly greater. (Who'd know that the merit system would turn into a sex slave trade.)
money and sex have always been closely linked in the human psyche, its a bit of a conflated topic but there is at least one reason i can see.
Sex is an act of demonstrating one's self-worth as a human to procreate, i.e. continue one's genetic dynasty into the future, so receiving favours, credits, smerits etc (money) is a validation of that act by a measure of value that has a market worth, so somewhat objectively recognised and not merely a personalised "good job, well done".

On a philisophical note, it is called "Meritocracy"   Cheesy



333. Post 31656144 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on March 05, 2018, 08:02:38 PM
Where is realroach? Did he died Roll Eyes
Crying wolf, are you?

Just wait for the next significant dip.



Lol i am happy that he is gone  Cool
Let HIM stay away Damn

He 's melting his silver into bullets... . Grin



334. Post 31925293 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on March 09, 2018, 02:45:03 PM
Hopefully this channel won't break.


That will depend on the "Untrustworthy" Trustee ?



335. Post 31932745 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 09, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
Man, the more I think about it, if I was that Gox trustee motherfucker, I'd be god dammed careful exactly who was cooking my puffer fish if you know what I mean.

If the dude didn't understand the consequences of his actions, I have to think he has been made VERY AWARE by TPTB not to do that shit again... if you know what I mean... Japan and the Yakuza and all...

Wallstreet banksters style : "Nailgun accidents"... .



336. Post 31938060 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

So now we have a "Tokyo express" like if I do not mistake, at Guadalcanal in 1944... . Grin



337. Post 32007582 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: fragout on March 10, 2018, 05:45:17 PM
Bitstamp series of walls @$9200 getting eaten.

"Tokyo express" is back... .



338. Post 32074693 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Torque on March 11, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
Breaking:  China's Congress has passed a constitutional amendment that removes presidential term limits, allowing President Xi Jinping to remain in office indefinitely.

Breaking: Communism (*cough* Fascism) working exactly as intended.

Now wait until he crowns himself Emperor and it is complete... .



339. Post 32100642 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Wekkel on March 11, 2018, 10:12:51 PM

No fat finger but price discovery  Grin


You mean:"China discovery" ?  Cheesy



340. Post 32101676 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: lightfoot on March 11, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
Yes, they did. And also batching transactions. Along the past couple of months. Where have you been hiding lately? Smiley
Fixing miners and figuring out Antminers in my spare time. Man those things suck, no creativity at all in the design just a big rail of meh that is prone to overheating and blowing chips on the end. Yuck.

And not selling bitcoins, which is why I haven't been looking at the fees much lately. Seem rather reasonable again.

Lol, just like all power handling electronics coming out of China, they overestimate their making money fast and underestimate the laws of nature... .



341. Post 32168908 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Torque on March 12, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
The market is so thin and controlled by so few right now, they can literally paint a fake 'double bottom' and then just dump it.

And it is like that since the early February big dip.



342. Post 32378739 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2018, 03:09:29 PM
Wait a second... if we could get a beautiful girl like Lauren to identify as a man, and the left thinks that identifying as a man makes someone a man, that would make us gay according to their rules. Then we could get protected status!

Lauren Southern is probably the only man I'd go hetero for.

The gender confusion barometer says we urgently need some gender-genetic engineering : every human equipped with all attributes... . Makes everything more easy and opens, ahum, new
possibillities... . (Without confusion)... .  Cheesy



343. Post 32475363 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 16, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
That's where an exotic wife comes very handy.

I once went to Antwerp for the weekend and returned two and a half years later. I'm content to live in tents and caves, most of my clothing is older than many of the people on this forum and no one may hear from me for months on end.


What time were you in Antwerp?



344. Post 32476344 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 16, 2018, 08:50:19 PM
What time were you in Antwerp?

Mid 90s. I was physically located there for around 18 hours before wandering off into Europe somewhere. The entire two and a half years there would not have been appetising to me.

I was young and juicy and anything seemed possible in those gilded times, but not in Antwerp. I was whisked away deeper into Europe by some Orthodox Jews to whom I'm partially responsible for feeding some ham.

I am from Antwerp, moved to Ghent in 2015. Always had a good time... . And lol, feeding them ham, good one Grin



345. Post 32699649 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: infofront on March 19, 2018, 05:27:44 PM
Bitcoin is unfolding like the dotcom crash — just 15 times faster

Edit: Amazon crashed from a high of over $100, to a low of about $10 in 2000. 18 years later, they hit $1,578. If we apply the same recovery gain percentage to the recent bitcoin low of ~$6,000, and assume 15x recovery speed, we'd hit ~$946,000 in Apr. 2019. This is all based on questionable math and a clickbait article, but still fun to think about.

I would not use AMZ too much as an example... . Nor any of the other FANGs...



346. Post 33088741 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 24, 2018, 09:47:58 PM
drink early
drink often

Beer #5
Greyhound #3
Screwdriver #1

Lovely Saturday so far.

Cheers, everyone.

It 's the "Drunk sideway dance" . Take one on up 300, we 're out of the woods and there is the bar. 300 down, oh please show me the way to the next whiskey bar... .



347. Post 33093402 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 24, 2018, 10:58:24 PM
Do you remember back on December when they talk about bitcoin 100k on 2018?
What do you think now?

End of December, I thought this is crazy. Now I think, this is normal. And I do not feel pitty for guys that are going to eat their dick.



348. Post 33244253 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on March 26, 2018, 09:09:38 PM
No good posting rockets while shit winds are blowing. You see? #TheShitWinds?
I'm really bad at negativity

"The force" is absent (without leave).




349. Post 33307727 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Torque on March 27, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-27/twitter-tanks-after-citron-warns-wait-til-congress-finds-out-about

So finally we will learn the truth.

That these social media companies are NOT making the majority of their money via ad revenue.

That they are making major money selling user data. Perhaps even being subsidized for it by Alphabet agencies, govts, banks, etc.

And oh yeah, to remain OT: Buy Bitcoin!

What is the name of the google parent company again ?  Grin Grin Grin



350. Post 33455645 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 29, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.

Yep!!!!  This was all pre-planned from a year ago and perhaps two years.  There are whale manipulators who  knew these details all along.   I knew it.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Probably this plus a lot of coincidences : Mt Gox, futures etc. Now the whales are just preparing to move  capital from their FANG investments to BTC, on their terms welunderstood. Although the first effect of the FANGs going South will and has, also a negative effect on BTC.



351. Post 33632673 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 31, 2018, 09:39:21 PM

Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST        

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27/04/2018 drbrockoin
01/05/2018 sprinkles
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28/08/2018 bitserve
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12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

with this long downmovement i'm curious who of the remaining going to get lucky






Looks like I am gonna miss a Honeybadger birthday present... . Nah, I missed the previous one by two days (it was two days before my guess) so there is hope !  Grin



352. Post 33635993 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: explorer on March 31, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
Looks like I am gonna miss a Honeybadger birthday present... . Nah, I missed the previous one by two days (it was two days before my guess) so there is hope !  Grin

Dropping like flies, so they are.

My choose was totally random and now looks like a rather silly date. I can't see any particular reason why it would pop around then. I'll take full credit, and delete this post, if it happens all the same.
Tongue

Well, yeah, we are all in the same boat after all. Now what I have learned over the last year, before that I was an ordinary dumbass, : never panic, just Hodl. (I do a bit of trading, just 5% of my little stash, only targetting increase in BTC, no consideration for fiat value.) .



353. Post 33665953 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 01, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
Notlambchop is too ashamed to ever show her face again.   She wasted two years of her life and had opportunities like few other.  

Theymos's April fool's day joke has given Notlambchop ridiculously high politeness and virtue scores. They should be negative numbers for Notlambchop.




Ok now that’s hilarious.  But I’m suddenly concerned on how it reflects on me....

Rather "Hairy" ?



354. Post 33671110 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 01, 2018, 11:47:14 AM
But why do I have zero karma?  Huh

Karma is related to the trust system. Have you ever had trust dealings here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3232693.0

Man “sir / gent” gotta read that like 5 times minimum and still don’t get it all  Roll Eyes


Some specific day of the year metrics... . Wink



355. Post 33674901 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 01, 2018, 12:31:46 PM
That article has moved to steemit

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@supercrypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-price-suppression-is-the-goal

It can easily be dismissed as tinfoil club drivel.

Or can it? Make up your own mind.


Didn 't the CME boss say something like : "We are going to tame Bitcoin", when asked about BTC volatillity ?



356. Post 33677421 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 01:11:56 PM



Everybody will say here this is tin-foil hat conspiracy theory.

But central banks can print money out of tin air, provoking inflation, which is in turn masked by the media.

You can see that people are always FUDing about tether, saying that is illegal and immoral for Ifinex to print it without a dollar equivalent, like it was a stupendous crime againt humanity.

However, when its central banks doing exactly the same, nobody cares.

So such cartels can run free. Thats how they dumped the gold market. Remember that a hundred years ago, gold was a store of value, and used as a protection against financial tyranny.

Now they are doing the same with crypto.

They print money out of tin air, buy bitcoin, then sell at low prices. Since every financial crisis is planned, this is good for their goals.

But hey, its a conspiracy. Trust the state and the banks, lets FUD about the immoral tether.


Bitcoin has a secret weapon, it is call scarcity!

Take those coins away from the market and they will need to pump it again to shake the tree.  Grin



Yes but that is equally true for gold and to a lesser extend other PM's. And since their weapon of choice is paper, it is an unequal battle. I heard and read many many times that we should buy their paper gold and then redeem the real stuff in order to bring them down. Only, the few people who actually tried to have their contracts settled in physical, had a rather cold experience... . (So far at least). Now of course, why would someone want to have paper gold in any way ?



357. Post 33679746 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 01:31:08 PM



Everybody will say here this is tin-foil hat conspiracy theory.

But central banks can print money out of tin air, provoking inflation, which is in turn masked by the media.

You can see that people are always FUDing about tether, saying that is illegal and immoral for Ifinex to print it without a dollar equivalent, like it was a stupendous crime againt humanity.

However, when its central banks doing exactly the same, nobody cares.

So such cartels can run free. Thats how they dumped the gold market. Remember that a hundred years ago, gold was a store of value, and used as a protection against financial tyranny.

Now they are doing the same with crypto.

They print money out of tin air, buy bitcoin, then sell at low prices. Since every financial crisis is planned, this is good for their goals.

But hey, its a conspiracy. Trust the state and the banks, lets FUD about the immoral tether.


Bitcoin has a secret weapon, it is call scarcity!

Take those coins away from the market and they will need to pump it again to shake the tree.  Grin



Yes but that is equally true for gold and to a lesser extend other PM's. And since their weapon of choice is paper, it is an unequal battle. I heard and read many many times that we should buy their paper gold and then redeem the real stuff in order to bring them down. Only, the few people who actually tried to have their contracts settled in physical, had a rather cold experience... . (So far at least). Now of course, why would someone want to have paper gold in any way ?


Not really, there is no deliverable on BTC futures.  The only way to get BTC is in the BTC markets.  They can battle with their fiat but we just need people to buy and HODL.  Scarcity will win the game.  It may take some time. Tongue


Agh, yes of course, the contracts are settled in cash only.

Meanwhile, it looks like our questions about the desireabillity of the big boys entering the BTC ecosystem also has been answered... .



358. Post 33786753 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 02, 2018, 06:41:34 PM
Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me 

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.

I 'm just trying to postpone my birthday, in order to have a chance winning Mic 's contest... . So I went to the City admin today to see what can be done.
The lady asked me why I would want to do so... . So I explained the whole situation and the absolute imperative necessity to do so... .
She answered, ah I see, well maybe come back after that crazy guy, what 's his name again, Coffee or something, has eaten his dick on TV... . That will be a good
time... .



359. Post 33877783 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 03, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .



360. Post 33878143 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 03, 2018, 10:31:54 PM
Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .

High return could be considered to be more security and more volatility, but I don't think that purposefully creating higher volatility by removing liquidity is a way to increase user confidence in a platform. 

I have no real idea of their motivation at this point, except that they are attempting to go down the path of prestigious pricing, and that does not seem to be a good move based on their current market position based on current trade volume (but hey what do I know?  Administrators/owners there would know their trade numbers better than my looking at what I believe to be their relatively mediocre trade volume).   

Maybe it is just because of the low volume... . In that case, they might be followed by the others.



361. Post 33879511 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 03, 2018, 10:54:13 PM
Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .

High return could be considered to be more security and more volatility, but I don't think that purposefully creating higher volatility by removing liquidity is a way to increase user confidence in a platform. 

I have no real idea of their motivation at this point, except that they are attempting to go down the path of prestigious pricing, and that does not seem to be a good move based on their current market position based on current trade volume (but hey what do I know?  Administrators/owners there would know their trade numbers better than my looking at what I believe to be their relatively mediocre trade volume).   

Maybe it is just because of the low volume... . In that case, they might be followed by the others.

I am not sure about whether you are misreading my post.  Gemini has lower trade volume relative to other exchanges; however, their increasing their fees is likely to decrease their trade volume - however, those kinds of measurements would be for them to make about whether their trading volume decreases significantly in order to cause the increase in fees to be imprudent, from a business perspective. 

They are an exchange, so I am not sure about why they would take measures that might decrease their trading volume, unless they are gambling on the fact that more and more BIGGER investors are coming into the space (such as institutional investors), and they are trying to cater their platform towards the institutional investors rather than the regular Joe.. but even institutional investors like to see high volume which is likely going to come, in part, from regular Joes.

Regarding overall assessments of low trading volume, currently, I think that those kinds of assertions of low overall trade volume are a mythical, and I believe that we have not left BTC price battling, and this supposed consolidation game (in the below $10k arena) is not over yet... so even if there might be some recent drops in trade volume, I doubt that those recent drops are anything more than temporary - in the current bitcoin (and crypto) price dynamic climate.

There is a bit of a contradiction in the service that Gemini offers, because they are increasing their trading fees, but their fees for getting  in and out seem to be lower than the average (see these Gemini transfer fees)

Sometimes I misread, indeed. But isn 't the low (appears zero)transfer fees, confirming the lack of voume motive for increasing trade fees?



362. Post 33992601 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Torque on April 05, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Stocks on the NYSE are shares in companies that generate fake earnings through massive stock buybacks and other accounting chicanery.

FTFY. Sorry marcus, I couldn't resist.  Grin

Prime example: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-stock-buyback-program-2018-4

Don 't forget the corporate borrowing for paying very generous dividends... . Grin



363. Post 34095144 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

So over the last year from April to April) we had :

- The whole futures Fud (taming Bitcoin, remember)
- A crackdown here and a ban there (remember China)
- A number of very bad taste Fork parties and their snake oil doctors blurbing around all the time... .
- The second coming of Mt-Gox (just wait for episode 3)
- Some ICO scams going down in flames
- Wall street banksters talking public about tulips (no idea what they were doing behind our back)
- Bans on crypto advertising
- Some bizarro never ending Chinese newyear spending
- The US taxman being a tad greedy
- Anything I forgot

And yet, YoY we are up x 5.
So ven who did not take profit at the hight of the bubble still is up 5x.
Now spring has arrived, time for a positive move. And it will come. The fall of the tech bubble giants will send all their groupies, with
their capital, for a large part to the crypto scene. (simply because there is nowhere else to go for them).

Just sit back, take a nap and enjoy the unfolding great turnover.

just 1 cent.



364. Post 34096445 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Torque on April 06, 2018, 05:26:24 PM
So over the last year from April to April) we had :

- The whole futures Fud (taming Bitcoin, remember)
- A crackdown here and a ban there (remember China)
- A number of very bad taste Fork parties and their snake oil doctors blurbing around all the time... .
- The second coming of Mt-Gox (just wait for episode 3)
- Some ICO scams going down in flames
- Wall street banksters talking public about tulips (no idea what they were doing behind our back)
- Bans on crypto advertising
- Some bizarro never ending Chinese newyear spending
- The US taxman being a tad greedy
- Anything I forgot

You forgot:

-Chinese exchanges "reviewed" by PBoC, then shut down
- SEC denies COIN ETF
- "The Flippening" that never happened, lol
- BTC-e busted by FBI
- SegWit2X (aka BitcoinXT, aka BitcoinUnlimited) was DOA due to "division by zero" gaff
- Russia bans Bitcoin, then doesn't
- South Korea bans Bitcoin, then doesn't
- Coinbase insider trading BCash launch




I also forgot our own Roach ! Shame on me  Cool



365. Post 34202975 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 08, 2018, 09:12:04 AM
very quick short list  for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only  when breaking 12288 dollar price.....  almost same rules as the list before just a winning date AND
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              .15 BTC for correct date
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              only accounts with minimum 5 Merit and 20 activity (last time to many new pop't up Roll Eyes  )
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LIST CLOSES tuesday 12 CET allways CET time  no execptions
just for quick enjoyment

normal tommorrow i look @the dates.... firts one posted has the choosen date , some one with the same date have too take another one so look out a bit....
DATES sended in PERSONAL MESSAGE will    NOT count

let us break back 5-digits      12288 = 10000 eu 5-digit for a change  Grin

Hi Mic,

I choose

14-07-2018 ( mind the year, it is important)

Grts

L.




366. Post 34229448 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 08, 2018, 03:32:39 PM


#MBGA !!!


Make Belgium Great Again ?

Burundi!



Stop talking BS,
Please don 't !  Cheesy

Serious question: What's wrong with Belgium ?

How about "Make Britain Great Again". Seriously.

I can't believe the stories I'm hearing coming out of Londonistan.

Make BobLawblaw Great Again.

that for certain ! it's not the one showing his fat boobs all around, right?


Serious question: What's wrong with Belgium ?

How about "Make Britain Great Again". Seriously.

I can't believe the stories I'm hearing coming out of Londonistan.

What's wrong with belgium? a part being the most stupid people on earth, they host the evil centralized globalists bent on replacing the native people of the europe anti referendum without constitution european union... where they don't even pay taxes... and where they advertise sugar babies services (I joke you not)... and where islamic parties are starting to form to win the so called democratic process (let me laugh)... and freedom of speech is criminalized and the God given right to defend it of bearing arms. seriously belgium people have low iq...  

The Belgian Islamic party Partij Islam is set to run candidates in 28 municipalities in the upcoming Belgian municipal elections, and have declared their intention to create an Islamic State in which women and men have to ride in separate buses.

As long as they apply strict sharia law, ie 10% tax max, count me in !!!
britain... the country who tried to destroy the celt? as may would say let's write some great hashtags to #MBGA !!!!

and who cares of those shit holes !!! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need more space(TM) ! beyond the moon Smiley !!!
What do you think about Fund of Soros to enter in cryptoworld??

this is positive or negative??

Negative. The hedge fund will probably short this to the ground. Then, when all the newbie bears start shorting, they'll get rekt too.

with that mind set you can only win scraps !!! I WANT HEDGE FUNDS VS PENSION FUNDS Smiley !!! they are already old let's make them poor.


Stop talking BS about that Islam party. They come up in two Brussels communes and will have maybe 3000 votes... .
And no we don 't need anything big. We leave that privilege to others. About Nato an EU shitquarters, well egh yes that is a pain in the ass of most Belgians. And our politcal class is just as stupid as in any
other country on the globe... .

And, we pay no taxes (0%) on our crypto trading as long as not being professionally involved. So thanks for the low iq, quite handsome... . Cheesy



367. Post 34639204 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 13, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
Good morning everyone.

Jumping well above $7.8k and bull rushing past $8k...we have entered another Fibonacci area where resistance is meeting support.  Market sentiment is still on the rise and is the highest it has been all year.


Market sentiment is now bullish.

Still, its better to be careful, in case we have some massive bulltrap.

Lets see in the next 24 hours.

Don't afford more than you can afford to looose.

So next 24hours are critical nothing else matters...?

Every hour, the next 24 Hours are critical... . I just don 't trust that sudden upshoot of yesterday. Too easy, too cheap. So I keep buy orders from 6150€ all the way down to 5200€ and some spare ammo... .



368. Post 34642810 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on April 13, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.
You are wrong. No other way to put it, you are just flat out wrong here.
The hordes of 30-40 year olds that look like teens to twenties would have me disagree with you on this one. They hold up better than their western counterparts when it comes to aging. At least in the more affluent countries as somebody else pointed out.

As long as they don 't start eating fastjunkshitfood... . I saw highschool children getting obese very very fast. To the point that I did not recognize them after six months... . And unfortunately, just as with all bad western habbits, the Asian people adopt these  as a form of status symbols... .



369. Post 34643267 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on April 13, 2018, 09:28:22 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.
You are wrong. No other way to put it, you are just flat out wrong here.
The hordes of 30-40 year olds that look like teens to twenties would have me disagree with you on this one. They hold up better than their western counterparts when it comes to aging. At least in the more affluent countries as somebody else pointed out.

As long as they don 't start eating fastjunkshitfood... . I saw highschool children getting obese very very fast. To the point that I did not recognize them after six months... . And unfortunately, just as with all bad western habbits, the Asian people adopt these  as a form of status symbols... .
Not obesity. Fat shaming is an integral part of their culture. I have seen less fat people in two years while in Japan than I see in a single day in the west (when I actually bother leaving my house).

You are correct about Japan, also when I stayed there I did not see it growing. But in SE-Asia, I saw it growing as a cancer, I am talking over a ten year period when I stayed there regulary. And the adults started eating antibiotics for any imaginary disease, with the same outcome.



370. Post 34644960 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 13, 2018, 10:14:09 PM
Fraud Craig Wright's nchain withdrew funding for liar Peter R's Gigablock project ironically for him telling the truth for once.
Meanwhile scammer Roger Ver sold a bcashlol atm to Zimbabwe, preying on the poor and ignorant.

Looks like Roger is doing "Good business" again... .  Grin



371. Post 34715189 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 14, 2018, 09:14:54 PM
Gentlemen,

I am so sorry for yesterday post. What I meant is just to show a few secs (ns) of respect towards those that are going to die while money is gonna be made.

interested? I bet... fasten your seat belts... it's vicious.

######################################################################################
comments?


No.



372. Post 35199056 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Torque on April 20, 2018, 08:25:06 PM
You pretend that there is no brand hijacking going on.  You cannot possibly be so naive to genuinely believe that on the evidence so you must be a fraud like all the others.

jbreher's not naive about the brand hijacking, he just doesn't give a shit. And he's in hella denial about BCash's chances of being successful in the future.  

For everyone one person that buys some BCash, there's a million buying Bitcoin. And that ratio will only get worse for BCash in the future. Do the fucking math, jbreher.

BCash is created as a parasite, on the base of imaginary flaws to be fixed. It was created as a parasite and only survives by the grace of it 's ghost. If it becomes too greedy, it could kill it 's ghost and by
doing that commit suicide. luckilly the parasite has attracted other parasites to itself, so it is flawed in it 's expoitation of the ghost. Ultimately the parasites will just turn out to be reinforcing the resilience of the
ghost and simply destroy themselves. Nothing in the whole discours about the raison d' ëtre in the BCash story makes sense.



373. Post 35418437 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 23, 2018, 07:11:10 PM
Would there be Many on the list besides jbreher if i would pay out in bcash....??  Roll Eyes  Huh

Joke of the day Michel, een meritje!



374. Post 35505389 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 24, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
Former CFTC head says ETH and XRP may be securities as a single organization is behind them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/ether-ripple-may-be-securities-former-cftc-head-gensler-says

By that logic, Bcash lol is also a security as it is driven by Bitmain.

Well, except for the fact that the narrative that Bitmain has control over Bitcoin Cash is nothing but bullshit.

Too many B-s in that story... .



375. Post 35650842 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on April 26, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
Good morning Observer's.

Bitcoin continues to consolidate at $8.8k as indicators relax and the weekend(oh shit, the banks are closed now) approaches. The Twitterati hive mind indicates some of the MtGox coins are heading towards a BitMex address but I have not seen evidence as of yet. In my humble opinion, the sooner these coins are out in general circulation the better.


I expect the price to remain in a relatively narrow channel over the next 24 hours before more substantial price action this weekend. #dyor


So it would mean a push down for the (long) weekend ? Sounds plausible.



376. Post 35978616 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: infofront on April 30, 2018, 06:43:10 PM
occasionally taking some money off the table is always a good idea.

Show me the way to the next silver bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next silver bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die

You just need a hug.

That is plus one merit!



377. Post 36228250 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: RewFrew on May 03, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
Zzzzzzz all goes like i describe it in my older posts.

Nice to see this accuracy for my predictions from 6400$ to now.

Well, when we gonna hit 14.000$ next weeks, then a retrace for an accumulation then the big boom gonna happend to the 40K 50K 60K 70K 80K.


So, what would be really interesting : how deep will the retrace go? It is like the French say "Reculer pour mieux sauter" ?



378. Post 36396086 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: mike4001 on May 05, 2018, 03:32:03 PM
Well I guess unless the whales are pulling their sellwalls where is no way we are getting to 10k.

There are 100/200 BTC sell orders everywhere.

Could it be that the Gox trustee is trying to do his job a bit more civilised?



379. Post 36402979 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: bitserve on May 05, 2018, 05:25:38 PM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-warren-buffett-says-probably-rat-poison-squared-2018-5

Warren Buffet: "Bitcoin is probably rat poison squared".


Uhhhh... is that a sign of what?


He is jealous... . Tongue



380. Post 36425509 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: Torque on May 05, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Man, Elon Musk has some balls...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/992556974263947264

They must be touching the floor by now... . Grin



381. Post 36616325 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.54h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 07, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
Willing or unwittingly makes no difference.
You think it is possible for someone to unwittingly scam someone? So like if I accidentally sell someone a counterfeit good that I had no idea was counterfeit that makes me a scammer?

Was the person who received the good "scammed"?  The answer is yes.  For that person to have received the binary status of not-scammed (0) or scammed (1), there had to be an initiator of said transaction, and that initiator was you.  So yes, willing or unwittingly makes no difference for that particular state change for the person on the other side of the trade.

Bof Roach, you dissapoint me here. Isn 't every trade that has no mutual benefit a scam? If I sell you my old car because I know the clutch is going to fail soon, but I can camouflage it to lure you in it, then it is a scam if you bought it to really use it for longtime driving. If you have understood the potential problem very fast and you sell it to the next, it is not a scam for you, but for the next... .



382. Post 37089268 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 12, 2018, 07:25:30 PM


Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink



383. Post 37091147 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 12, 2018, 10:33:21 PM
They say sell in May and go away. I bought (quite a lot) and I am here to stay: always the sum I am not afraid to lose. We will see how this unfolds: still bullish

home early , quite a good dinner lots of fine drinks vodka martini, good wines.... but didn't make it to late so after few hours not watching the price and didn't talk about crypto .... i can only say ,good to see the price is still +8K allways hate to see the first number drop lower, so quickly go back to vegeta and than attack the 5-digit numbers  Roll Eyes
saturday drunk merit go's tho here cause i just read BOUGHT/STAY/BULLISH  what more does a hodler wanna read keep up buying and hodling  Grin
Michel, Ur dlunk ! :-)



384. Post 37091184 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Lontonbit on May 12, 2018, 10:01:16 PM


Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink
Stevie wonder can see the chart better than you.

That is for sure !



385. Post 37178869 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Torque on May 13, 2018, 03:24:26 PM
I feel like the big whales left this market some time ago, and now the bots are just trading on algos alone. We're going basically sideways now on wash trading.

There's some smaller guppies still trying to push the market up and down, but alas I think they realize that they're not getting any help. They will tire and lose interest. Within 2-3 more months I think we will have bottomed.

Again ?



386. Post 37488564 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 16, 2018, 04:09:54 PM
Good morning. Sideways, upwards and downwards accumulation.
Cat stands tall but humble today.  


I see an "Old rusty saw-tooth" pattern appear... .   Wink Wink



387. Post 37505281 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 16, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
quick question .... how do i post GIF i really try anything but can't get it done ... 

I made one for you to use so you don't need to bother figuring it out:



Roach, can you go back to the kitchen please? Much more interesting... . Wink



388. Post 37726501 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: mymenace on May 18, 2018, 10:45:31 PM
so are we going to moon soon Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

Everyone on Reddit seems to think so, so I'd grab as big of a personal loan as you can while you still have the chance to hop on the rocket.

Well on reddit and twitter is like since 5 months that we are going to skyrocket to 100k anytime TOMORROW or maximum NEXT WEEK. So I guess they are not the right places LOL


if everyone knew every June it increases by up to 60% for the last 4 years

and then drops July 1st by 30% every four years

would it do the same again



Now we are the fifth year. It 's different now.  Wink Wink



389. Post 38624106 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 26, 2018, 01:22:46 PM
*belgium 28°

If I'm ever out that way with Rick, I'll have to look you up and say "Hi".

I hear you guys have great chocolate over there.

Have a great weekend !

And beer Bob. !



390. Post 38825540 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: suzanne5223 on May 28, 2018, 11:50:44 PM
Big spike down, let's see how long it takes to get back to the 7300s.
Hopefully it will get back to the $7300 price range when we wake up tomorrow morning. My thought is that the market correction is over which we ought to experience some gradually pump in price. Is there any reason behind the dump in price than the GOX Trustee flooding the market.

There is no flood, in fact there is nothing and I suspect that is the problem.



391. Post 38899107 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: greensheep on May 29, 2018, 05:33:48 PM

no government does not sound like a shitty situation to me

We don't have a proper government in the UK, and the arrest and imprisonment of Tommy Robinson may become more significnt thn the Italian crisis. It's opening up a massive can of worms.

belgium did just fine without a government for many, many months.


To be exact 541 days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Belgian_government_formation


To be exact : we did not go backwards faster without government, rather slower. :-)



392. Post 38998552 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: Ibian on May 30, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-29/everything-has-gone-wrong-soros-warns-major-financial-crisis-coming

“The EU is in an existential crisis. Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.”
"The strength of the dollar is already precipitating a flight from emerging-market currencies. We may be heading for another major financial crisis." -George SOROS

Fill your bags boys. This is the moment we all have been waiting for. It is coming. Paper monetary system is on life support since early 2000's. QE's kept him alive for nearly another 20 years and It has come to an end.

The next 24 months are extremely critical.
2020 is the estimated year some of us came up with for the So Obvious The Muggles Can't Pretend to Ignore It event. Something that has been brewing for decades will happen, and Trump, the far right extremist president who stole the election, will be blamed.

The next few years are indeed extremely critical. We will either change the turning of the wheel of history, or repeat the cycle.

It doesn't matter. Bitcoin will demolish and reshape every existing order and power structure.
Yes, but at what cost? A WWII style war with a clear and legitimate enemy would be far preferable to a soviet-style meltdown on a large scale. Even if only under the heading that "less people would die".

Does that not feel a bit uncomfortable Ibian, the concept of "A clear and legitimate" ennemy? Between 1933 and 1939 many leaders of the so called democracies admired Hitler, Musso and even the Japanese... . When it comes to war, ther is no such concept. Look at all the wars that haven been ever since 1945, it only has become more and more fog, mist and smoke ennemies. I follow Infofront but for the opposite reasons : Bitcoin is challenging the warmongers.  



393. Post 39068613 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 31, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoin-price-analysis-geopolitical-turmoil-and-economic-unrest/

Moar FUD.

Quote
Technical Analysis

Bitcoin price structure has remained in consolidation purgatory since cooling off from a meteoric rise near the end of 2017. Periods of ranging, indecisive price action are critical for the market to regain momentum for a move in either direction. A key hallmark for this is a descending volume profile, which has been the case since the low set in February.

Although consolidation within a trend should always be assumed as trend continuation, casting a wide net with analysis, while avoiding analysis paralysis, and mapping out several scenarios is the key to eliminating surprises. Predicting the exact future price is less important than reacting to the price action with a potential trajectory and predetermined target.

This process can be done with Chart Patterns, Ichimoku Cloud, Moving Averages, Pitchforks, and historic macro trends. Further background information on the technical analysis discussed below can be found here.

A symmetrical triangle has formed as price has consolidated, making lower highs and higher lows. In Technical Analysis of Stock Trends (1948), Edwards and Magee suggest that roughly 75% of these triangles lead to a continuation of the trend, while the rest mark reversals. In any case, this pattern will be a ‘trade the breakout’ situation as it will likely lead to weeks of trend follow through. Breakouts post consolidation typically occur after at least 66% of the triangle has completed (yellow highlight).

...

Inverted patterns are typically seen at the top or markets, not after a downward move. While this makes the probability of the pattern becoming a reality less likely, it does not mean that it cannot happen. An inverted Head and Shoulders appeared on the weekly Oil chart after a significant downward move as well, which reached it’s 1.618 fib extension almost exactly on target.

If this inverted Adam and Eve is real, it yields a price projection of ~US$2,900 and US$4,600 based on the measured move and 1.618 fib extension. The measured move target nearly matches the low set in September, as well as the previous resistance throughout June and August.

Bitcoin Price Analysis 31 May 2018 14Bollinger Bands, a measure of price volatility, have also coiled tighter and tighter, as illustrated by the Bollinger Band Width (BBW) indicator. An oscillator similar to RSI, %B, which shows the depth of price relative to the Bands, shows a growing bullish divergence as price dips lower without further expansion of the Bands themselves.

Bitcoin Price Analysis 31 May 2018 15The Ichimoku Cloud uses four metrics; the current price in relation to the Cloud, the color of the Cloud (red for bearish, green for bullish), the Tenkan (T) and Kijun (K) cross, and the Lagging Span. The best entry always occurs when most of the signals flip from bearish to bullish, or vice versa.

The Cloud metrics on the weekly time frame are; price above Cloud, nearly bearish Cloud, newly bearish TK cross, and Lagging Span in price and above Cloud. Together, these signals suggest the trend is neutral but leaning weakly bullish because price remains above Cloud. This is the first TK cross since 2015, while the previous bearish TK cross in a similar position led to a multi-month downtrend. TK crosses on high timeframes are significant and should be seen a long exit signal for trade entries which began in 2015.

Price itself is below the Kijun and, seemingly, in no-man’s land. A long entry would not be warranted until price is above the Kijun with a bullish TK cross, essentially also above the neckline of the head and shoulders chart pattern.

...

Conclusion

For better or worse, economic and trade policies worldwide have begun to dramatically shift with multiple political uncertainties. Bitcoin, and cryptocurrencies broadly, have more recently represented a global futures market to price-in credit risk or lack of confidence in leadership. CNBC recently discussed Bitcoin as a fear gauge for the market, similar to the volatility index.

Technicals are the most bearish they have been in months. Based on the current price structure, breaking up would be much more surprising than breaking down. Admittedly, trend-based indicators like the Cloud become more noisy with non-trending price action, and therefore less reliable for actionable signals. However, even when zooming out on the price action, many of the technicals remain bearish. Currently, the trend indicator to watch is the 50/200EMA on the two day timeframe.

Although too early to determine, one ray of hope would be the possibility of this entire consolidation period representing re-accumulation. Essentially, the entire bull trend from 2015 has been reset, which gives plenty of fuel for a new all time high just as easily as returning to new lows. The direction may be unclear, but the volume-based momentum will be obvious.

A lot of literature to say : "We have no idea, no clue".  Cheesy



394. Post 39296952 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: Torque on June 03, 2018, 03:09:53 PM



The IBM motto:

"If you can't be part of the solution, then there is a lot of money to be made extending the problem."

This is the quote of the day Torque and unfortunately, not only true for big blue, but for almost anything that is run today in the extorsion economy... (Crapitalism)



395. Post 39300092 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: Torque on June 03, 2018, 04:40:03 PM

Edit: Regarding the photos, those I have no comment on. They could have been faked, sure; the actual landings though, I don't believe so.

exactly

As someone noted above, the whole Apollo program was primarily a propaganda/PR effort.  My theory is that the pictures came back fucked up, over exposed, out of focus...whatever, and the marketing people were like "what the fuck is this?  we can't use this." and then they did what marketing people do...

I agree this is the most plausible explanation.

I saw it live on TV, as an 9 year old. It was just real. No point discussing that. I also read about the Tonkin incident, as a 6 year old. That was clearly a false flag. Nothing has changed about these facts.



396. Post 39305788 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 03, 2018, 06:27:05 PM
exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.

Always the same problem : More boners, less coins. More coins less boners... .



397. Post 39310746 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: infofront on June 03, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.

Always the same problem : More boners, less coins. More coins less boners... .

The thing is, more bitcoins will solve almost anything. If you want more boners, bitcoin can take care of that.

Most sensible ideologic thought ever! So there is hope for all! :-)  And on a sideline, little hope for Soros, Dimon, Buffet and Roach.



398. Post 39740800 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: Torque on June 09, 2018, 05:40:29 PM
Many people think that Bitcoin's price action is just pure speculation and completely disconnected from other markets, like equities, commodities, hedge markets, PMs, etc.

But if you ascribe to the notion that :

a) Bitcoin could be a safe haven hedge like PMs, and that
b) the equities market is topping and looks really strained/risky, along with
c) what is happening to the emerging markets, hyperinflation countries, and with
d) Central Banks insolvencies, the Deutsche Bank downgrade, etc.

Well then.... the Bitcoin price action over the last 2 years makes perfect sense in that context.



And soon it will make more sense... .



399. Post 39869309 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: theymos on June 11, 2018, 08:31:11 AM
I tend to be a perma-bear, but this most recent crash feels really artificial.

We do seem to be tracking frightfully close to the accelerated 2014 model.

There really should be no reason for 2014 to recur, since the overall situation is so immensely different, but I also can't help but see parallels. I've always thought that the upward movement after the 2015 doldrums was driven to a significant extent by the 2016 halving, though, which wouldn't apply to a time-accelerated model. And in 2013-2015 the price dropped about 83% from its ATH, which would lead to a price of about $3200 in the current situation.

It is artificial. No doubt about that. And indeed it may look similar to previous episodes, but there is no causal resemblance. My idea is that the financial world has been frightened by what happened last year and knowing their
kingdom is floating on bubbles out of thin air have decided to not let that happen again. They want to prevent people moving their savings out.

Not that I think they will succeed, but it will cause some more pain for sure.



400. Post 39895421 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 11, 2018, 04:31:02 PM
I do have a pressing question however..  I believe we need to have these particular bottoms quantified and rated from left to right..what say you gentlemen?

For me..I have to say I appreciate the one on the far right the most..  Not sure if its that smile that accompanies it or the slight knock knee'edness...

I'll take the plumpest one, on the left.  Wink

I'm stuck with the one in the middle, since I am a slow poke.  Poor me.   Cry

I think I am stuck with another one and I am going to keep the pic with me... .  Grin



401. Post 39946716 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 12, 2018, 10:54:37 AM


for all last pages  Grin

but offcourse thats beautifull all can have there own opinion , but seems to be the case when we go down all say negative and when its bull rally ,nothing can't stand in the way of the higher prices     Roll Eyes


my father is maybe one of the worst .... is as long in BTC as myself  never said anything good from 250-300 to 1500 allways bad feeling lot of sell offs ... than still with a very healthy amount in the bull rally to 20k "nothing is better than BTC" ... didn't sell a lot @ that time LOL  Roll Eyes   price goes down and panic sell offcourse around 8000-9000 lot off sideways from there and yesterday after the recent DIP he was sitting in the office chair saying to my brother BTC will never go back to higher prices and its finisht and.....


for many in here do not be my father in the BTC story  Grin i am happy i am the biggest BTC bagholder @our place

You 're not alone... .

What I find freaking scary is that waiting for the now daily dump. And I have run out of fiat surplus that I had from the peak... . So my buying power is very limited. Dugh.



402. Post 39967788 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

The voyage to the moon is not without consequences... .




403. Post 39973097 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Looks like the dump express is running out of ammo. Someone is putting real buying walls in the Eurozone of Stamp. The first one of 50 something was eaten and then he put new ones around 5700€ and twice so far the dump was rebounded.

In a previous post I tried to insert an image from wikipedia, but that does not appear?



404. Post 39976803 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Thanks Toxic, will try again... .

Third attack also rebounded, but at a serious cost to the wall... . :-)



405. Post 39979493 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: kingcolex on June 12, 2018, 06:54:28 PM
Thanks Toxic, will try again... .

Third attack also rebounded, but at a serious cost to the wall... . :-)
Glad to see what a bit of a defense building up, I'm looking for the giant green candles to pop up.

Too late, just eaten, skin & hair and all... .  Angry



406. Post 39981742 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

My last microwall @ 5555€ also was crushed... . And since I already sold the Castle, car, boat, horse, car, furniture, art collection, wife and children, there is only my soul left. Ooogh Faust!



407. Post 39987599 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 12, 2018, 08:47:10 PM


2) regarding running out of fiat. I kind of understand that position, but I don't think that it is a good practice to run out of fiat... If there is any cash flow coming in, then that fiat can be saved.. just in case there is more dip... On the other hand, there could be some luck that this largely $6500 support will hold or at least support at $6k will hold.. I tentatively believe the odds are a bit less than 50/50 for holding... but as we all know, we have already had about 3 or perhaps 4 tests of this price arena... and support does seem to be pretty strong around this area... which kind of makes the breaking of support scenario to be a bit more scary, if it were to happen.  Personally, I would rather NOT have to use any more of my fiat to continue to buy BTC on the way down.. so I would be perfectly happy with this price area holding.  Currently, I have pretty solid buy orders down to about $4k, but I would likely have to scramble if prices were to go below $4k to think about and to consider how to set up my buy orders with the current fiat reserves that I have.  Probably, I am not going to set up those buy orders until the price goes below $6k (that is if it does go below $6k.. so, certainly, I am in a kind of "compelled to watch" position right now.. and nervous for me an likely a lot of peeps - understandably especially for those who have already completely run out of fiat).

I learn a lot from you JJG, but as every apprentice I do make mistakes.  Hoping to not repeat them, which is the hard part!



408. Post 40051161 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Torque on June 13, 2018, 05:47:44 PM
So I've heard that Goldman Sachs has started a Bitcoin trading desk.

Raise your hand if you think they would kick things off by going long with huge on-exchange market buys?

Or...?  Grin

Lol, CME ?



409. Post 40110471 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Cheesy Wink



410. Post 40118931 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 14, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
I'm very disheartened today. Lost a major chunk of my bitcoin holdings (almost 0.38 BTC) on Bitmex even though I've been longing since $8000 with just 4x leverage (adding more & more after every dump to average it further down), but still at $6140, I got liquidated. With this, I can pretty much assure that $6140 was actually the bottom. It was only to liquidate me, hard luck. Don't comment that I need to risk only what I can afford to lose, I know that very well, just had some real bad luck (as well as confusion) this time.

For reasons like this, I continue to conclude (personally) that leveraging is not necessary, especially in bitcoin.  In bitcoin we are lucky to experience outrageously stupendous returns, and I we do not need to leverage in order to achieve such outrageously stupendous returns on our investment. 

Accordingly, if you just invest regularly, then the most that you can lose is 100% of what you put in - but if you employ leverage (especially using the margin trade vehicles supplied by exchanges), you not only can lose your 100% more quickly, you also lose it way faster, which causes a kind of magnification that if you employ 4x leverage than you can lose 400% - something like that.  Therefore, I still consider any kind of leveraging to be too far into a "gambling" rather than "investing" category, especially with bitcoin.

Exactly. And I really don 't understand why people want to expose themselves to this kind of practice.



411. Post 40119450 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):



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The only effective FUD that I could foresee coming out would be major Tether-related news. For example, the Dept. of Justice announcing criminal charges.

Also, please stop posting. I'm going to run out of merit!
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I give you one, the holding the bottom seems to have a positive effect... . Wink



412. Post 40197279 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: gentlemand on June 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
I'm not following the whole USDT drama, to me it's just like another alt/shitcoin, i.e. if anything, people would try to escape into BTC when it crashes. Of course it can take down some exchanges, but if you keep your BTC on exchanges thats the risk that you're taking

It may be unfashionable to think it, but I don't really believe there is one any more. Even if at one point it was money out of thin air, and there's no proof either way, they've likely earned it back now.

It's going to be a forever mystery I reckon that's rolled out every now and then for a quick scare.

It may indeed never get cleared out. But they surely played the most sophisticated scam ever : they played the role of central bank in crypto... .  Wink



413. Post 40198583 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: infofront on June 15, 2018, 08:34:19 PM
I'm not following the whole USDT drama, to me it's just like another alt/shitcoin, i.e. if anything, people would try to escape into BTC when it crashes. Of course it can take down some exchanges, but if you keep your BTC on exchanges thats the risk that you're taking

It may be unfashionable to think it, but I don't really believe there is one any more. Even if at one point it was money out of thin air, and there's no proof either way, they've likely earned it back now.

It's going to be a forever mystery I reckon that's rolled out every now and then for a quick scare.

It may indeed never get cleared out. But they surely played the most sophisticated scam ever : they played the role of central bank in crypto... .  Wink

Damn. They must be run by The Jews® then.
/s

Edit: I'm adding this quote from Eric Meltzer of INBlockchain because its a slow day here:

Quote
As a jew, I find the existence of basically unseizable money outside of state control massively comforting. To jews, the state is an unpredictable monster that flips out every century or so. Having the ability to leave without leaving everything behind is key.”

What is intrigueing me for some time already is the name of the ceo of finexed and Tether : "Van De Velde". That is so Flemish as can be, so I wonder... .

And the jew part, well, let 's see what Roach has to say about it.



414. Post 40199536 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Torque on June 15, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
OT: Tesla

http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-employees-reveal-how-they-were-fired-2018-6

"We're doing great! Nothing to see here folks! Stock is flying high! We'll be profitable any day now!"

He is going to merge with Daimler-Benz and BMW and Volkswagen, profitability is on the breakfast table tomorrow.



415. Post 40202661 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: mymenace on June 15, 2018, 09:50:32 PM
OT: Tesla

http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-employees-reveal-how-they-were-fired-2018-6

"We're doing great! Nothing to see here folks! Stock is flying high! We'll be profitable any day now!"

He is going to merge with Daimler-Benz and BMW and Volkswagen, profitability is on the breakfast table tomorrow.

The guys being attacked for his views on gloablization


Seems to have some liberal witch hunt against him (media changed on him and regulators enforced more issues)



"His views" have little to do with how he runs his companies.



416. Post 40228631 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: greensheep on June 16, 2018, 08:31:09 AM
Quote
What is intrigueing me for some time already is the name of the ceo of finexed and Tether : "Van De Velde". That is so Flemish as can be, so I wonder... .


I actually tought he was Dutch.

Price seems to have stopped climbing...stabilizing? Huh

A Hollander with a Flemish name, ok we will see them try to do the same trick again... .  Grin



417. Post 40239970 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: greensheep on June 16, 2018, 12:10:03 PM
Quote
What is intrigueing me for some time already is the name of the ceo of finexed and Tether : "Van De Velde". That is so Flemish as can be, so I wonder... .


I actually tought he was Dutch.

Price seems to have stopped climbing...stabilizing? Huh

A Hollander with a Flemish name, ok we will see them try to do the same trick again... .  Grin

lols, he must have run away during the spanish inquisition

Aha, you know about our history... . And that subsequent the Hollanders became fameous as pirates, sea robbers and mercenaries and that they still have that in their genes... .  Wink Wink



418. Post 40245117 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

It 's that time again : holding up the bottom. (Now, I think the previous one, from Infofront, was a bit too heavy, so the upholder would get crushed under it... . What of course, under the right circomstances could be a rather pleasant experience).  Wink Wink



419. Post 40318851 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Now all the Germans get depressed. Expect a serious dump... .  Grin



420. Post 40321188 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: hv_ on June 17, 2018, 05:16:23 PM
Now all the Germans get depressed. Expect a serious dump... .  Grin

Mexican will overcompensate that. And they need it more than dumping Germans.

Dumping power of Germans versus buying power of Mexicans? Ok let 's see... . Cheesy



421. Post 40384364 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 18, 2018, 02:26:10 PM
time for all wall observers in here to take a 90min of and get all behind belgium and the fabolous team that we have especially
ALL EYES ON THIS MAN       GOGOGO   EDEN HAZAAAAAAARD !!!!




bullish on belgium

En ik zit thuis met zware sinusitis, nog nooit gehad... .  Cry Cry Cry



422. Post 40384966 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 18, 2018, 02:41:16 PM

En ik zit thuis met zware sinusitis, nog nooit gehad... .  Cry Cry Cry

kunde in elk geval de match toch zeker zien , toch goed  Wink

Ja hoor, maar niet op Dok op groot scherm, nu ja het is zo... . Have fun



423. Post 40653595 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: Torque on June 22, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
What is going to happen when the real FUD begins?

There is never any real FUD, silly bear. It's all fake made up bullshit.

We don 't need FUD. What I hear in my environment is that people find BTC compromised by the irrational pump and subsequent dump. So they consider it unreliable as investment. That is the opinion of 99.95% of the people I know around here. And that is also what MSM and all the very serious people here tell us on a weekly basis.

We will hang around the actual flat or Barted curve till something external happens. I do not expect that before late September... .



424. Post 40677148 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: realr0ach on June 22, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
The scariest part of this drop is that there isn't even any major FUD driving it. It's not like last time where there was the China ban and Gox and major exchange issues happening left and right. The drop is just happening naturally on it's own. What is going to happen when the real FUD begins?

Parelleling this phenomena is the continiously unanimous bullishness in the forum. Charts always with some upwards plot and bulls popping champagne and posting rockets every time there is a 5% rise, and circle jerking eachother 'oh yes that's a great analysis, just how I see it. excellent work. and things will be even more bullish after XYZ conference. we could take this further and add an extra digit or two.' (as the bottom is being challenged on low volume)

I could see this coming from a mile away because bitcoin is just a derivative of the dollar.  When browsing random crap on Amazon lately, I noticed that every single manufacturer of several products were all having to slash prices big in order to try and move anything, indicating the mainstream consumer is completely tapped out and we're tilting back towards deflationary collapse again.  Also, places like Bank of America just added a $10 a month fee just to have a checking account there, indicating banks are losing money and desperate too.  

So yea, probably get ready for the next 2008 soon.  Contrary to random noob's opinions on this forum, bitcoin cannot be pump and dumped in the middle of a deflationary collapse since all it is is a dollar derivative, while also being a high risk asset and miles away from the base of Exter's Pyramid.

What if we live in a inverse Exter 's pyramid time? I think you are mistaking this one Roach. In the run up to the crisis, yes BTC will suffer. But then it will inverse, just as precious ones... .



425. Post 40682534 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: Torque on June 22, 2018, 05:16:36 PM
The bastards spiked his crank with glucose or some such evil concoction. His body just couldn't take it.

Or just Occam's Razor, that he knowingly took some questionable shit or overdosed and ended up in a hospital.

But of course we'll never fully know the truth. He'll spin this as sabotage/assassination attempt to further his mystique.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."



For some or another reason, I suspect him to be our "Bottom upholder".  Grin Grin



426. Post 40759807 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 23, 2018, 09:54:34 PM



after belgium won 5-2 and crypto was doing ..... few %'s back up  Grin

i jump't into the booze with my precious downtown antwerp city, talking about everything accept BTC for a moment SO again saturday evening well spended
lets see what the next weeks gonna bring us

Is that Mrs goosens?

She looks nice, well played Sir!

Yes Yes played very good already 5years time is flying , the good thing is she is massive into crypto   Grin

@ MAS?



427. Post 40844477 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 24, 2018, 11:35:18 PM
I think if someone tends to selling btc now is the same as buying between 18,000 - 20,000$.

RSI is now near the oversold levels and showing some indication of reversal, so what do you waiting for..just grab some btc now and thank me later Wink
All of the standard indicators that you have access to with commercial trading tools are going to be largely useless. After all, the people who create those types of indicators already have them priced in whilst also having much more sophisticated algorithms to raze down the hordes of people that use the publicly available indicators.

Yeah right....


Do you really believe what you are saying?  The "sophisticated players" know based on more sophisticated tools that are going to tell them?    Right.   Roll Eyes

The "Sophisticated" tool is brutal force, no?



428. Post 42689175 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 22, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
3h3 hours ago
~snip

You just do not know what is coming
Soon you learn
Things are about to get Interesting
A storm is coming
In the future, the only safe, reliable secure system  is #BCH
There can be only one.
There will be one base currency.


New World Order

F$%kin unhinged

 Hmmm... something is missing from this...



There it is!  The maniacal laugh.


The guy has some serious attitude problems... to put it kindly.




Prof Faustus, what 's in a name... .  Grin Grin Grin



429. Post 42696298 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: jonoiv on July 22, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
big movement soon? It looks like something is around the corner

good timing !

Ugh, big movement, not exactly in the right direction, sigh.



430. Post 44093664 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 14, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction

02/06/2018 oblox Sad
07/07/2018 IntroVert Sad
03/08/2018 toxic2040
28/08/2018 bitserve
15/10/2018 Yefi
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

the remaing acctually i am very VERY very curious who's gonna win this one ........ is there going to be an insane BULLrun or wil it just be one of the last 5 on the list ??


Could be faster than we think, could be slower than we think, could be this forum has disappeared before the answer ever can be found... . :-)



431. Post 44093944 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 14, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction

02/06/2018 oblox Sad
07/07/2018 IntroVert Sad
03/08/2018 toxic2040
28/08/2018 bitserve
15/10/2018 Yefi
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

the remaing acctually i am very VERY very curious who's gonna win this one ........ is there going to be an insane BULLrun or wil it just be one of the last 5 on the list ??


Could be faster than we think, could be slower than we think, could be this forum has disappeared before the answer ever can be found... . :-)

lets try to keep it with the first 6 words  and let BITSERVE win this one ....... what a ride would that be  Shocked

I am with you!  Cheesy



432. Post 44152187 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on August 15, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
No, it's true. Our trolls are less funny now. And dumber, too. We really do deserve better.

Mmmm, we all are trolls now... .



433. Post 44296032 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 18, 2018, 01:30:15 PM
^^
yes thats true i even never touched the white materials but its everybody's own decission offcourse i even don't do cannabis especially after a long period with my birthday this year i drunk very VERY very much @ the resto and to be funny i had a few smokes on the outside terras of the 3star resto and never made it back inside ..... sick i was puking al over the terras of that resto pfff never they will forget our table of that evening .... so after that a joint just for fun will never happen again , probably also because i am a very sport fanatic and NON smoker  Roll Eyes

and btw common BTC do not turn into a weekend DUMP Smiley

Our honeybadger is puking all over the terrace... . Never be the bad example Mic ! How long did the hangover take?  Grin Cheesy



434. Post 44299203 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 18, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
^^
yes thats true i even never touched the white materials but its everybody's own decission offcourse i even don't do cannabis especially after a long period with my birthday this year i drunk very VERY very much @ the resto and to be funny i had a few smokes on the outside terras of the 3star resto and never made it back inside ..... sick i was puking al over the terras of that resto pfff never they will forget our table of that evening .... so after that a joint just for fun will never happen again , probably also because i am a very sport fanatic and NON smoker  Roll Eyes

and btw common BTC do not turn into a weekend DUMP Smiley

Our honeybadger is puking all over the terrace... . Never be the bad example Mic ! How long did the hangover take?  Grin Cheesy

yeah it was a few weeks back in june i think not to far from you .... (hof van cleve) BUT man it was the worst i had till now .... also  there where a few arrangements for the night but didn't saw any of it i was to passed out completly gone so my friends and girl had to do all alone  Roll Eyes

however the hangover was just not there i woke up and had nothing of problems so thx that was allright BUT @the resto didn't made the desserts....

Missing the dessert @Hof Van Cleve ! What a shame (lol) it is at such a special occasion to fail. Same as I have once a year... .  Cheesy Cool Grin



435. Post 44377667 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 19, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
Mmmm Nice to have a pump Just before Going to sleep ,let us see Where i Will wake up into  Grin

Nog heal de gote of te leggen.... (In de fik, Cowlier)  Cool Cool



436. Post 44433096 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: ccminer.net on August 21, 2018, 12:11:50 AM

Can't believe, but it AMERICA was not the land of freedom??
At least in the movies they keep saying so, menawhile USA army keep saving the world LOL

In order to save the world, they have to destroy the world... . :-)



437. Post 44979474 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on August 31, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
Are redheads generally considered a fiery breed? I wouldn't know, personally.

Let us just say, it is in my best interest not to piss Rick off too much.

The dude really balances me out well, and is an extremely patient, and caring partner. He really puts up with an incredible amount of... punishment... from me, all things considered.

I can count on one hand, the times I've seen Rick go full Johnny Storm and "Flame On !" in anger, and, well, let's just say I'm glad that fury was not ever directed at me.

Generally, incredibly caring, friendly, and accommodating, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T EVER PISS OFF A GINGER CAUSING THEM TO ENTER A RAGE-STATE !

EDIT: One of those times, though, he raged out at one of the cattle back in Montana, and it was the fucking funniest thing ever, in retrospect.

Me: "Dude. It's a goddamn cow. I think you need to consider calming down a bit..."
Rick: "IT CHEWED MY FAVORITE HAT BOB ! WHAT THE FUCK !?!!!"

Rick settled on a rare steak after all was said and done.

You guys must be an amuzing couple to have as neighbours... .  Smiley



438. Post 45448282 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

It 's only going to go better when the current Casinostreet rotten air inflated bubble goes down in flames (it 's gonna smell terrible) and the stupid lambo fantasies evaporate. Even if it is only a symbol for, yeah for what actually?



439. Post 45455545 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: vapourminer on September 09, 2018, 05:23:11 PM
the stupid lambo fantasies evaporate. Even if it is only a symbol for, yeah for what actually?

which is easier to write: "lambo", or "fabulously obscenely stinkin filthy rich beyond your wildest dreams"?

Both stink hours against the wind, tiens. :-)



440. Post 47490378 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 01, 2018, 01:11:33 PM


Meeeh, got the last POLL total wrong Roll Eyes

Thought the price was going to be much higher with this Halloween TRICK or TREAT thing......
So the older people didn’t give Some BTC codes instead of Candy and fiat Huh

Strange world we living in.....

BTC will go up when the Wallstreet casino style goes down. And they will try to avoid that with all the funny money that can be printed possible. Because when the casino goes down, so goes the whole shithouse we are in.

Ultimately, that will happen, question is when.



441. Post 47899248 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Time to start uploading fiat to Stamp... . After all these months of passive looking... . First buy order at 4800€ Next at 4500€  Cool




442. Post 47902987 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 14, 2018, 06:40:25 PM
So all of this crash was because 2 guys and some more are fighting on twitter over hash power? Ridiculous market.

This is crypto. Hash power is The Power.

"They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism."

- SN, Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

So much for decentralization.

Ah, yes. 'Decentralization'. A means to an end that many have confused with the ultimate end. And a term that appears exactly zero times in aforementioned white paper.

What would be the meaning of "Peer-to-peer" ?



443. Post 47903474 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 14, 2018, 07:08:38 PM
So all of this crash was because 2 guys and some more are fighting on twitter over hash power? Ridiculous market.

This is crypto. Hash power is The Power.

"They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism."

- SN, Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

So much for decentralization.

Ah, yes. 'Decentralization'. A means to an end that many have confused with the ultimate end. And a term that appears exactly zero times in aforementioned white paper.

What would be the meaning of "Peer-to-peer" ?

Transacted without need of middleman.

And isn 't that what requires decentralisation?



444. Post 48038407 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 09:05:10 AM
$5265

Going down AGAIN FFS

Edit - $5186

Why would anybody be dumping now Sad

Because they just are mean motherF***ers and Maybe hatless peoples Grin

I feel like loosing more than only my hat... . Grin Grin



445. Post 48050971 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 19, 2018, 06:26:52 PM
For everyone who thought making money in shitcoins was supposed to be easy, I present to you the world leader in shitcoin trading:

MatTheCat

I remember that guy..lol.

Nice work. Never though giving Roach a merrit Shocked

Maybe it is him... . Cheesy



446. Post 48052163 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 19, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
As it is going the CSW event has turned into an unequivacable S-storm of stupidity with most recently a block reorg underway on SV.

Here's the thing (AND TO THE NSA ETC I AM NOT SUGGESTING OR ADVOCATING ANYTHING):

He has messed with a lot of people's money.

What about the unscrupulous types with money to spend on things like hit-men?

Include Ver and Wu and a bunch of their accolytes. And somebody has to eat his dick too... .

First they talked, mainly Asia into BTC to fire their gambling genes, then they started the whole BTC infighting, now they are no longer part of BTC they fight among themselves while
the world of noobs, like me, looks with disgust and mounting distrust. And that is all you need (plus the usual FUD from MSM and Wall street, to cause a catastrophy. And this time, the Asians are nowhere to be seen... .

Basically, alle the technical issues, should have been handled by technicians. Not by ruthless coke-doped ego drugged ugly selfish scumbags.

Now we sit, lick the wounds and sweat it out. They are going to selfdestruction faster than we are. But fuck, it hurts hell.



447. Post 48053324 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 08:12:39 PM
we are getting very close to the bottom



Already crossed it 7times the bottom Roll Eyes

Looks quite good to cross 7 times ! Tongue

Although I wonder if it could resist a pin in search of a bubble.. .  Grin



448. Post 48053730 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 19, 2018, 08:32:25 PM
Just got back from a day at the hospital. Damn...
I'll hodl as long as it takes, but damn


bitcoin is now a part of history books Wink weeeee

Time to write some best-sellers about bitcoin(history), in order to maintain income... .  Grin



449. Post 48056607 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 11:32:06 PM
hat update and increasing

   

Time to think for one too. Just, as people always consider me a kind of mad professor, might be a good idea. (I have something with Nicola Tesla) , no not the donkey Musky car)  Cheesy


= first creation "colonel of the HAT INVASION"   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes collectors item
= HAT creator

=vroom "cat with HAT"
=vapourminer "cat with hat"
=jbreher he only wear he's XhomerX on top of the bear MAYBE good for the BULL creation to tame that BEAR Wink
= nice for fun..... wanted by hueristic, but campaign issue's,SEMI hat carrier
= binaryreign.... avatar merit issue .........
=DireWolfM14 , but avatar merit issue.....
=ROOMBOT if he plans to wear it



still in progress ? toxic2040,paashaas,ssmc,crypmike,bitebits,biodom etc........ pfffffffff   MANY HAT's created THX 

HAT UPDATE TIME  Tongue



450. Post 48083141 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Ok, I am below my cost average... . (in cost I include all I spend in BTC on sex & drugs & rock&roll). Not selling, no way. When all the madness of the Big Casino finally ends in crash, BTC will be the place to be, no matter how long it takes. And the damage done by the Btrash dopies will be only a sidenote bad smelling dead rat. First we will fall together with the funny money circus, too many BTC were bought with borrowed funny money. So while that clears, we must suffer. Once that is behind, comes the real challenge : as BTC was created as a hedge, or counterforce for the funny money after the 2008 chaos, now comes the moment of reckoning. Let 's see what happens. It will be long, dirty and dire.  Grin Grin



451. Post 48083883 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 20, 2018, 09:07:21 PM
I'm glad this is happening so it will finally be over and done with.

I think we will have reached our new ATL since the last ATH within a day or 3.

You could be correct that this is going to be over soon (perhaps within a few days), but it remains difficult to be glad about the whole situation.. and we also cannot really rest assured that it is going to be over, either.

It is similar to previous downtrends when posters are rejoicing about falling BTC prices, and they keep rejoicing and the BTC price keeps falling.

After a while, the rejoicing stops as the BTC price continues to fall.  At some point, the price stops falling, too.. and I would rather NOT go through all of that.  I would rather return to UPPITY, even if the shitty alt coins have to come along with us...but it still seems that even though bitcoins are being shook, the alt coins are not shaking enough... and bearwhales can still smell blood..   and purge and purge and purge... .. 

Me thinks that it remains difficult to feel "glad" under such ongoing uncertain circumstances.

Indeed, no reason to feel glad. I wonder, what is the average margin cost for miners at this moment? And how does that fit in the picture of major miners being involved in the Btrash war?



452. Post 48084427 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: kingcolex on November 20, 2018, 09:24:58 PM
I'm glad this is happening so it will finally be over and done with.

I think we will have reached our new ATL since the last ATH within a day or 3.

You could be correct that this is going to be over soon (perhaps within a few days), but it remains difficult to be glad about the whole situation.. and we also cannot really rest assured that it is going to be over, either.

It is similar to previous downtrends when posters are rejoicing about falling BTC prices, and they keep rejoicing and the BTC price keeps falling.

After a while, the rejoicing stops as the BTC price continues to fall.  At some point, the price stops falling, too.. and I would rather NOT go through all of that.  I would rather return to UPPITY, even if the shitty alt coins have to come along with us...but it still seems that even though bitcoins are being shook, the alt coins are not shaking enough... and bearwhales can still smell blood..   and purge and purge and purge... .. 

Me thinks that it remains difficult to feel "glad" under such ongoing uncertain circumstances.

Indeed, no reason to feel glad. I wonder, what is the average margin cost for miners at this moment? And how does that fit in the picture of major miners being involved in the Btrash war?


A few days ago, BitMex research had suggested something like $3341 per BTC, and it remains unclear about how they arrived at that number.

https://twitter.com/bitmexresearch?lang=en

I am sure that there is some playing around with BTC hash power, but overall, so far, BTC hashpower has remained pretty stable (and relatively high) through the past few days.

https://www.blockchain.com/charts/hash-rate?timespan=30days
Is this where the fucking $3,300 wall number is coming from? I was wondering who was pulling that number and from where.

So, they are risking their BTC profits for a war in a only losses quest. Strange guys these miners, would Obelix say.



453. Post 48084587 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Zaanda on November 20, 2018, 09:48:56 PM



what if the real manipulation was not on USDT exchanges?

A Bullish Crab is close to forming on all the tether exchanges.  Makes me wonder a little bit, why do we trust the non tether exchanges, they can manipulate just as easy?  Maybe the tether exchanges are more close to an honest price.  

Or am i not understanding something?

You will understand when you will have no way out of your Tutters ... . Good lunch with that.



454. Post 48085087 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: RivAngE on November 20, 2018, 10:19:37 PM
I was trying to explain to one bloke that it doesn't matter if you buy 0.1 bitcoin or 100000 of some shitcoin for same amount of money, if it rises 50% the gains will be the same. He firmly believed that his 100000 coins will make him more money, as the numerical value of them is higher. Many know nothing about math, sad.

That's not right. If a project is young and its coin's market cap is low, then its upside potential is higher than a higher market cap coin.

To prove it with an example, say a small project has a market cap of 1mil $. An investor who will throw 1 million $ on this coin will increase its price by 100% (doubling the coin's price)
If the same investor would throw the same 1 million $ in BTC which has 66 billion $ market cap, the increase in price would be a drop in the bucket.

However, we can argue that BTC would draw more investors... the thing is that no matter how you look at it, we're speculating here! If someone is investing in small market cap coins which he has researched and believes that they have potential, then that's a high-risk high-reward play. It's definitely not the same thing as investing the same amount in BTC.

"If a project is young and its coin's market cap is low, then its upside potential is higher than a higher market cap coin."

That is not math, no science, just sentiment.



455. Post 48085233 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2018, 03:40:45 AM
Just got back from a day at the hospital. Damn...
I'll hodl as long as it takes, but damn


bitcoin is now a part of history books Wink weeeee

Time to write some best-sellers about bitcoin(history), in order to maintain income... .  Grin

 I believe a hat is required in order to be a successful writer.



avatar-sized




Agh ja Xhomerx, super well done ! I will put it to active duty tomorrow! Thanks .




456. Post 48086713 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: realr0ach on November 20, 2018, 11:18:26 PM
Did you guys hear about this one weird trick to make a small fortune in bitcoin?  Start with a large fortune in bitcoin.

Oogh, Roach, you are in a funny mood, what happened, did you look at some nice Jewish bottom and ran into a lamppost? :-)
Never the less, thanks for showing a little humour.  Cheesy



457. Post 48163572 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 23, 2018, 04:24:35 PM
Im not scared I already sold everything, just trying to warn everyone here so they at least get out with something instead of worthless bags of internet "coins"

All those trolls announcing the death of bitcoin appear in bear markets like this to spread FUD for two main reasons:

1)   They already sold (bought high, sold low) and they are scared of the idea of bitcoin going up again.
2)   They never bought but could have done when it was much cheaper, like 3 digits, and they are resentful towards those who bought.

In the meantime, HODL, HODL, HODL.


indeed MANY SALTY F*** among us
for jealous reasons ....

First post with my new hat!

Bitcoin has been declared dead, only recently by all these self declared experts, for at least 10 times a day that it becomes laughable. (But we miss the Asian FOMO buying... . )



458. Post 48189257 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: realr0ach on November 24, 2018, 03:55:52 PM
r0ach, I think you just want the price to go lower where you believe the bottom is.

False.  I do not want the price to go lower to get a "great deal" on valueless, imaginary tokens.  I want the price to go to zero, die, and never be seen again so the world can go back to sound money - silver and gold - instead of the Pandora's box known as digital currency that are all 100% guaranteed to be state controlled tracking and slavery systems on a long enough timeline.  It's pretty much inevitable metals do defeat them, I just do not want to see the fight drag on for years from scammers spamming stupid people to buy them.

and a manipulated price on bitfinex. (I believe you also have some real fears about this)

I used to trade shitcoins to acquire more metals even though I knew shitcoins were a garbage asset.  Most traditional markets are stupidly rigged, so it was one of the few viable markets to do any type of trading at all.  Now, entitites like Bitfinex have turned the market into even more of a scam than traditional markets, so you have an invalid asset trading in a completely invalid toxic market.  

You once stated that you believed JJG was responsible for initiating the pump to 1200 by posting bullishly on WO.

No...I did not.  I'm pretty sure JayJuanGee is just some sort of Google chat bot and is not even a real person.  If I said anything like that, it was obviously a joke.  If anything, JayJuanGee posts probably make the price go down.


Roach, you sound like terribly rancunous and unlogic. Why would you want BTC go to zero, if you know you can trade, in your case to acquire metals? Probably a plan that did not work out too well?
Anyway, I admit to enjoy reading all your retarded, stupid racist blurbs. Not that I consider you stupid or not intelligent. You probably are very intelligent, but with a few screws missing.
 



459. Post 48195407 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 24, 2018, 09:07:34 PM
^how are your toes?


Curling, as is my hair... .  Wink



460. Post 48196377 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Bon, as apparently BTC needs to be assassinated, the question is : at what point we get there : when all the miners go bust or close shop? And if that would be the treshold, how can we avoid it, without giving up BTC?  Sad



461. Post 48199398 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Owow, now BTC back in the MSN in Belgium...  First time after the end of year ATH when all kind experts came to explain about (d)angerous speculative bubbles and tulips (which are by the way a multi billion business ever since that infameaous event). Now they take a "We told you" stance. Funny. No NOT funny.



462. Post 48200032 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: infofront on November 25, 2018, 01:46:10 AM
Yikes. I haven't been able to peer into this thread much over the long holiday weekend. I see the trolls have been out in full force though.
Deletions Incoming

Let them do, as long as we are not completely "Depleted", it is quite some fun reading our epitaph... I now listen to king Crimson 's idea of that... .  Grin



463. Post 48200290 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on November 25, 2018, 01:55:55 AM
You folks all decide to sport matching pretty hats... then bitcoin crashes.
coincidence? I think not..... doooohh

The last hat standing... .  Cheesy



464. Post 48253947 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Ok, we are done. Last one going out switches off the light.

All those guys who bought BTC with borrowed money with their FAANG stocks as collateral can 't pay back their loans.

They bought the FAANG stocks with money borrowed against their House ATM collateral.

They bought their house with a mortgage based on their salary as a FAANG employee.

They are on the verge of being fired... .

So, next speech by MSM will be big crisis in all of the economy caused by BTC... .

pfff
All because f these crypto geniusses doing nothing but eating their own dicks... . Sad.

  



465. Post 48276399 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2018, 06:13:53 PM
Who sells at the bottom?

A man needs to eat.

There’s no shame in being young and poor. The only shame in being poor is when we quit trying to make life better.

Now, shut the fuck up, rob a bank, buy some bitcoin and retire with the rest of us. If you get caught robbing the bank don’t worry because it’s three hots and a cot. Also, there’s an entirely different stigma attached to being a criminal. When you’re poor people pitty you. When you’re a criminal they fear you.

There is nothing in a bank to rob, except debt.  Grin



466. Post 48280344 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 27, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
^^
its was just a very quick cheap red house wine, like you would get in a prison Wink
Yes, I realized soon after posting and edited my original teasing post.  Grin
Circa 2018 originating from the toilet of cell 2182B. A quality selection I assure you.
it probably even didn't came out of a glass bottle, but some kind of 5-10L wine bag or something Roll Eyes
but it did fit my purposes, no offence kingcolex just as for you..... its the same @ my place, BTC did drop AF for me as well  Shocked
I don't drink wine I couldn't tell the difference between a $3 bottle and an outrageous bottle, seriously. Now if it was beer that's a different story.
here i gotta be very honest, but i don't taste those diffrences as well.... so i don't care to much and i just almost like every wine that i drink....
but i was talking about that dry white bagel Smiley and that i just keep it as simple as possible during BEAR-market.... (it was mean't a bit as joke Roll Eyes )
whatever if you know your beers, then probably your a BELGIAN fanatic, best beers are brewed right in here.
Fuck yeah Stella is my shit!



But seriously I have had quite a few Belgian double and trippels that have knocked my socks off.

I just paid my credit card off before grabbing that bagel maybe that's why I was like, oh shit.

LOL, next time take a JUPILER in belgium i think its one of the most famous ones in here or DUVEL for a F***ing heavy one,  getting thirsty with all this booze talking.
and hairy i saw that you enjoy a wine as well sometimes Wink


We Belgians never are in a bear market. We are in a beer market. I 'll have a(or two) Rochefort 10° now. (Produces fantastic psychedellic dreams)  Wink



467. Post 48280593 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Who sells at the bottom?

A man needs to eat.

There’s no shame in being young and poor. The only shame in being poor is when we quit trying to make life better.

Now, shut the fuck up, rob a bank, buy some bitcoin and retire with the rest of us. If you get caught robbing the bank don’t worry because it’s three hots and a cot. Also, there’s an entirely different stigma attached to being a criminal. When you’re poor people pitty you. When you’re a criminal they fear you.

There is nothing in a bank to rob, except debt.  Grin

Turn water into wine.  Wink

Agh, yeah that trick, tried many times, never worked... .  Cheesy



468. Post 48281083 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: realr0ach on November 27, 2018, 10:15:56 PM
Start of WW III - this picture means Salvini soon goes full Mussolini.  Puts rapefugees in camps first, Jews next:



Is not going to happen. They will as usual make a lot of noise and then our usual drunks, Tusk and Stuka will settle the issue.



469. Post 48281451 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 27, 2018, 10:49:21 PM
The migrants are being imported to bastardize the white race, to destroy the native peoples of Europe, racially, ethnically and culturally, mix them out of existence, creating an inferior low iq slave caste to serve the (((elites)))

(the average IQ in Africa is around 72)



Looking at the IQ of the average racist on this forum I think you are doing a pretty good job of that yourself

Here is a hint:  racism is a tool like religion used to control the masses.  You won’t eat the rich if you are too busy hating some black dude in Africa who doesn’t own shoes.

In this sense Roach is a tool of the elite. He is just too stupid to realize it.

Lol, yes. And to add : I lived a few years in a bastion of white racists, with my foreign lady. For whom they suddenly were all ready to make an exception. (Their women not so)... . Grin



470. Post 48281786 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 27, 2018, 11:07:04 PM
An actual european army would be the biggest disaster of the century. As in, the past hundred years. Bigger than even the two hundred million corpses brought about by socialism. We can not afford to let it happen.
A Euro army would end up being a joke, I think it would be 80% sensitivity training from Brussels.
What do you think the millions of migrants are for?

Cleaning the toilets.  God knows Europe needs it.
Aggressive military age men with no ties to our lands or our people. What do you think they are for?

So you want to use for the army people that come here running away from the war. Makes sense.
They are not running away from anything, they are running TO money. Our money.

They are not getting my Bitcoins.

Yes it makes sense : same as the Romans did at the end of their empire : the Romans did not want to fight themselves anymore, so they let in migrants, granted them some priviliges in exchanges for keeping the next wave out. Same will happen now, in a different flavour.



471. Post 48297541 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 28, 2018, 02:38:59 PM
INDEED



Same as the weeks before, two steps up out of the blue and then fizzling lower and the smash to lower as before the steps up. It is like a Greek punishment... . Sysiphus... .  Grin



472. Post 48305617 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 28, 2018, 08:27:02 PM
I'm back on the doom train guys.

I think this is just to get our hopes up so the next leg down hurts more.

Every time when these "Staircase" jumps come, it is what follows. Some entities are playing really hardball.



473. Post 48305904 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 28, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Amazon makes move into "blockchain technology"

https://aws.amazon.com/qldb/

... it's basically just SQL db with a git-like journal/hash-chain indexing bolted on.

Quite clever as it provides all the functionality of those trusted central party bockchain networks without all the distributed verification/storage costs.

So a lot of totally unnecessary blockchain utility networks, ICO's, startups, etc have just been superceded, any that use central trusted parties, banks, insurance, health, etc.

They have taken all the blockchain features that do not need distributed consensus model, i.e. tangential to bitcoin, and provide them as a configurable cloud service infrastructure back-end.

So if I understand well : BTC will be dead again soon, Bezos will go to Mars, not Musk and his SpaceX is doomed?



474. Post 48306012 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Torque on November 28, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
OT:

I love how the stock market rips higher not because companies are doing great and making more profit, but because the Fed is signaling that it'll keep the credit cheap so companies can just keep borrowing more money for more stock buybacks.

 Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

WE ARE IN A FKN MELT UP, PEOPLE. WAKE THE FK UP.

And a "Melt up" in the casino is a melt down on BTC... .



475. Post 48307161 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Torque on November 28, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
And a "Melt up" in the casino is a melt down on BTC... .

We're already heading down the same path as Japan. Banks will eventually own all the U.S. mega corps, including their debt.

That's why Buffett has the largest stakes in five of the largest U.S. banks. By owning stakes in the banks, you indirectly will own the underlying mega corporations they have staked on their balance sheet.

It is even a double catch : they own the companies and the debt of the companies... . Which in case it goes wrong trickles down on our heads... .And of course that is the fundamental reason why they don 't want us to hide in BTC... . Cool



476. Post 48352071 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 30, 2018, 03:34:02 PM
it's over


Where am I supposed to jerk off now?

It means their business is done, to the shitter... . Cheesy

A new jerk off chain will be opened soon in a place near you, keep in touch!



477. Post 48454737 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 04, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
What is this night gonna bring when asleep....??
Will know it fast cause gonna bring myself to my HODLpits


Yeah, it goes like this :

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/bitcoin-drops-8percent-to-kick-off-december.html



478. Post 48502073 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

We are dead. Just refusing to accept it.
Meanwhile, the best we can do is accumulate, grab every Satoshi we can get. And one day, sooner than later, Asia is going to buy again.
For now, it is butt hurt time, ok... . Rochefort 10° is a pretty good medecin.  Cheesy



479. Post 48539229 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 08, 2018, 06:54:25 PM


You might have to clarify though: does receiving a Golden Shower from a prostitute count?

Depends, was that before or after he was tied to the bedposts and whipped?


Dear diary, today I learned a new way to harrass a person over the internet.

30 minutes to leave and finally have a drink myself...... already thinking what to start with Roll Eyes

you better put that fucking shit on your laptop and post it!

i already have to sneak with my phone before my GF becomes nuts of me sitting on the forum.... she kill me if i took my laptop to the resto Roll Eyes



Damn right she is! Say hello... .  Cheesy



480. Post 48541908 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 08, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
Thats it. Christmas is cancelled. Remove all the presents under the tree.

Oh Tera, long time no see, eugh, hear... .

Nobody is buying our Ponzi-Tulip-bubble shitcoin anymore... . In a moment or so, all the miners will be bust and then it is over... .



481. Post 48559364 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Just read a nice, trying to be objective view of BTC on ZH.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-08/bitcoin-mining-beauty-capitalism

Meanwhile, is this a little positive action or another deception?



482. Post 48559592 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Majormax on December 09, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
Just read a nice, trying to be objective view of BTC on ZH.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-08/bitcoin-mining-beauty-capitalism

Meanwhile, is this a little positive action or another deception?

IMO has no effect either way. The market will go where it needs to go.

Of course, it will Major. The action I meant was what is currently happening with the price, not related to the article.



483. Post 48563409 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: criptix on December 09, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
Just read a nice, trying to be objective view of BTC on ZH.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-08/bitcoin-mining-beauty-capitalism

Looks like mining remains profitable for well-run enterprises. From the article:

At the moment, Northern Bitcoin has 15 containers with 210 mining machines each. The 15 containers produce around 5 bitcoin per day at a total cost of around $2,500 dollars at the end of November 2018 and after the difficulty of solving the math problems went down by ~17 percent.

Taking that number with a grain of salt without any other info except .05$ per kwh.

I think I am gonna visit my daughter in Oslo soon and have her organise some touristic trips for me... . Finding out about the local grains of salt and pepper bolls...  Cheesy

Now the whole article is one of the seldom not harrassing or shitting on BTC, so it pleased me.. .



484. Post 48563430 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 09, 2018, 07:44:11 PM
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Just in case we dump more ..... gonna stick with straight outta Belgium fast food
Any of you not Belgium-Holland Guys ever eat this Grin

And come BTC kee on the sunday pump while i’m gonna be movie watching come on Wink
What are those green bananas in the middle? And the greenish stuff to the top left of them?

"Frietkot"  Cheesy



485. Post 48563580 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: yefi on December 09, 2018, 07:38:12 PM
NIce! Yes, people were following it on the BETI thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.0

We were supra-exponential for a bit last fall, now below the trend as your graph rightly shows.
EDIT: Bobby Lee says $333K in DEC 2021. I will sell some at 200-300K to whoever would want a piece, lol.
Last time waiting for BETI 1.5 (it would have been 28-30K or so) did not work out. It would have happened if not for CME.

Not to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but at some point the line will not be held and we'll have to "endure" mere linear growth (this being a finite planet and all).

I am more interested in linear growth than Seneca or behold, Hokusai parabolic cliffs.



486. Post 48563718 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 09, 2018, 07:58:07 PM
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Just in case we dump more ..... gonna stick with straight outta Belgium fast food
Any of you not Belgium-Holland Guys ever eat this Grin

And come BTC kee on the sunday pump while i’m gonna be movie watching come on Wink

Just get some waffles and fries. Is that pieces of butter next to raw onion halves on a stick?

No, the onions is part of "Saté" and the butter likes are some kind of Kroket, mostly with totally disgusting names !  Cheesy

And to be complete, we fry all that not in oil, but in the molten fat of oxes, if I say that right, means castrated bulls... .



487. Post 48564942 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 09, 2018, 08:34:08 PM
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Just in case we dump more ..... gonna stick with straight outta Belgium fast food
Any of you not Belgium-Holland Guys ever eat this Grin

And come BTC kee on the sunday pump while i’m gonna be movie watching come on Wink

Just get some waffles and fries. Is that pieces of butter next to raw onion halves on a stick?

No, the onions is part of "Saté" and the butter likes are some kind of Kroket, mostly with totally disgusting names !  Cheesy

And to be complete, we fry all that not in oil, but in the molten fat of oxes, if I say that right, means castrated bulls... .

Dear diary, today I learned that oxen are actually just castrated bulls. Thank you for this information, Ludwig. I will remember it for the rest of my life.

You 're welcome Goldking, after all, we need to have some interesting exchancges on the WO... . (You did not find it weird that we fry our world fameous fries in their fat?)  Cheesy



488. Post 48565069 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 09, 2018, 09:05:14 PM
"Frietkot"  Cheesy
Does "kot" mean shit in that language?

Agh, no, rather a cabin or wooden shelter or even a caravan style thing... . (We 're weird folkies but not that weird... .)  Cheesy



489. Post 48565254 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 09, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
"Frietkot"  Cheesy
Does "kot" mean shit in that language?

Agh, no, rather a cabin or wooden shelter or even a caravan style thing... . (We 're weird folkies but not that weird... .)  Cheesy
Damn, iirc kot meant feces in German and the word looks very Germanish. I am disappointed to find out that you're not serving fried feces.

We have our nuances towards German, as you will understand. And sometimes we do serve fried feces, but I am not going to tell you to whom we would do that... . :-)



490. Post 48565283 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 09, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
"Frietkot"  Cheesy
Does "kot" mean shit in that language?
https://imgur.com/gallery/gwu1RUm

That is just a "Fricadel" or in Antwerp, "Curryworst" that has been fried to hard... .  Cheesy



491. Post 48565505 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on December 09, 2018, 09:26:51 PM

That is just a "Fricadel" or in Antwerp, "Curryworst" that has been fried to hard... .  Cheesy

Looks like a "blood sausage" to me, extremely popular in Estonia in Christmas time, really delicious too.


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Estonia

In Estonia, verivorst (blood sausage) is very similar to Finnish mustamakkara. It is sold and eaten mostly in winter, being a traditional Christmas food. At that time there is a large variety of verivorst in stores, ranging in different shapes and sizes. Verivorst is usually cooked in an oven, but sometimes also fried in a pan. Verivorst is often eaten together with lingonberry jam, but occasionally also with butter or sour cream. Another similar dish is called verikäkk (blood dumpling). Its popularity has decreased during the past decades (possibly because of its less appealing commercial appearance) and has mostly been substituted by verivorst.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_sausage

We also do that! it is delicious, you can eat it raw or fried. (Sometimes we make them with the blood of invaders, which we have had plenty over history).  Grin



492. Post 48565569 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 09, 2018, 09:22:30 PM
^ r0ach, can you explain me how Bob could have invited more than hundred pseudo anonymous people spread all over the world to a beer as he did a few days ago if it were not using Bitcoin?

All you're doing is supporting my previous statement that bitcoin's only current value prospect is regulatory arbitrage. It's currently easier to perform regulatory arbitrage using shitcoins than fiat dollars, although you could probably still do that with numerous other systems like Paypal or whatever anyway - bitcoin is just a little better at regulatory arbitrage than most others at the moment.  Shitcoins are worse at regulatory arbitrage than physical metals due to their built-in Orwellian tracking system though, you just have to be in the same proxity for the metals.  

But everyone knows bitcoin will be clamped down on hard until it's virtually the same as using fiat regulation-wise, except worse due to abolishing the 5th amendment with it's built-in tracking system.  Doing what Bob did is only a temporary feature used to bait and switch people into this tracking system garbage.  Transaction validators are designed to centralized in every single craptocurrency, so govt clamping down and regulating them, or completely controlling every aspect of them, is inevitable, and why you should never promote shitcoins over physical metals.

There are no centralized 'transaction validators' in physical metals for the govt to regulate, take over, and control as their new 1984 toy.  And before some Ethereum buffoon posts to use a different shitcoin, it's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency.  Transaction validators will always be designed to centralize in every single one.

Until they come to your house and confiscate it. And eventually kill you in the process. Nothing is safe from powers that be.



493. Post 48566753 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: yefi on December 09, 2018, 09:57:43 PM
And to be complete, we fry all that not in oil, but in the molten fat of oxes, if I say that right, means castrated bulls... .

Oxen are draught animals. Would expect the fat to be rendered from steers/bullocks instead which are raised for meat production.

There are many names, basically it is a castrated male animal. Now, to fry it makes not so much difference, in past times we also did it (in secret) with the fat of Roman, Germanic, Austrian, Spanish, Dutch, German again and again, invaders and occupiers.



494. Post 48566940 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 09, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
^ r0ach, can you explain me how Bob could have invited more than hundred pseudo anonymous people spread all over the world to a beer as he did a few days ago if it were not using Bitcoin?

All you're doing is supporting my previous statement that bitcoin's only current value prospect is regulatory arbitrage. It's currently easier to perform regulatory arbitrage using shitcoins than fiat dollars, although you could probably still do that with numerous other systems like Paypal or whatever anyway - bitcoin is just a little better at regulatory arbitrage than most others at the moment.  Shitcoins are worse at regulatory arbitrage than physical metals due to their built-in Orwellian tracking system though, you just have to be in the same proxity for the metals.  

But everyone knows bitcoin will be clamped down on hard until it's virtually the same as using fiat regulation-wise, except worse due to abolishing the 5th amendment with it's built-in tracking system.  Doing what Bob did is only a temporary feature used to bait and switch people into this tracking system garbage.  Transaction validators are designed to centralized in every single craptocurrency, so govt clamping down and regulating them, or completely controlling every aspect of them, is inevitable, and why you should never promote shitcoins over physical metals.

There are no centralized 'transaction validators' in physical metals for the govt to regulate, take over, and control as their new 1984 toy.  And before some Ethereum buffoon posts to use a different shitcoin, it's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency.  Transaction validators will always be designed to centralize in every single one.

Until they come to your house and confiscate it. And eventually kill you in the process. Nothing is safe from powers that be.

If the govt is inside your house killing you with weapons, I don't think shitcoins are going to be of much use.  Worst example ever of trying to fraudulently pretend shitcoins are better than metals.

You are as fraudulent as me Roach, both of us would be dead. So, bottom line : it doesn 't matter.



495. Post 48632069 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 12, 2018, 10:08:59 PM
I really have absolutely no fucking idea what the price is gonna do next.

It's easy.

Micgoossens = dumb money
JayJuanGee = stupid money
Elwar = insane money

Just do the opposite of whatever they're doing.

and whats roach money ? if there is any

no money

But he eats a gold sandwich and drinks a cup of molten silver every morning... . Fundamentals!  Cheesy



496. Post 48652138 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

It is the guys at Saxo bank doing overtime to make their "Black swan 2018" prediction come true. Yesterday, MSM in Belgium already declared the Saxo guys the winners... .We are officially declared dead. Nice to be a zombie-vampire beyond the dead... .

Now for serious, about time somebody starts to worry about his dick. (Although I remember I first joked he was lying, he could not eat his dick, becaus it was already eaten in some Asian eugh, "Location".

If Asia stays out of the game, we probably first go down to around 2000 and then hang there untill all the miners close shop. What comes after that will be writing history about BTC and how a mixture of greed and snake oil sellers told us we went straight to 50K, xxxK and so on. While they were simply cashing out and forking shit out of their nose, in the hope te repeat their trick.

End of rant.

Real life : we 're not good. We are to low versus the fiat casino.



497. Post 48672569 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 14, 2018, 10:42:40 PM


Haha LoL

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I was just resting out .... get off the sickness Roll Eyes
While prepared a bit for the very short trip to LFC Grin

And look how my GF Made my travelcase, map with all the papers and where to go “haha, but how very sweet”
Just affraid that i would miss something i guess Roll Eyes

Every page hours flights marked etc .......

For the price didn’t i saw a pump ?

Boys last time when i took a flight, price went UP hopefully it does again

Didn’t read the last pages, thats for on the AirPort in a few hours

CHEERS and weekend drink and pump come on Wink
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Ok Mic, hijack the plane and keep it flying !(Jump out at Liverpool). Enjoy !



498. Post 48709674 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 16, 2018, 07:36:36 PM
IMF urges central banks to issue cryptocurrencies

https://www.gigabitmagazine.com/fintech/imf-urges-central-banks-issue-cryptocurrencies

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The Washington D.C.-based organization claims that cryptocurrencies could help prevent fraud and money laundering.

Tiens, is that not a bit bizarro?



499. Post 48712843 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 16, 2018, 11:14:44 PM
Hey, don't knock shitcoins. Tribalism aside, Bitcoin would be nowhere without them. Precisely no---where. Anyone who's ever followed correlations between dominance and BTC price will have seen that by now.

For that reason, I promote shitcoins to bitcoiners and bitcoin to shitcoiners. They don't like it but they need to swallow it Wink

Bitcorn dictates the price. Shitcoins are just Bitcoin money flowing into shitcoins and then back. Alts would be nowhere without Bitcoin, which doesn't mean that they won't serve a multitude of roles in the future. Without alts Bitcoin would simply become the denominator for stocks, bonds, and whatnot.

And that is why shitcoins are only parasitic inflation on bitcoin. And all the hassle caused by their promotors only has dammaged the value of BTC as an asset, or store of value outside of the mainstream system. So now, here we are, bruised and bottoming every day, week lower, until  we will be a note in history. I see more value in the physical bottom in my house than ever now... .  Grin



500. Post 48713063 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: toknormal on December 17, 2018, 12:13:07 AM
And that is why shitcoins are only parasitic inflation on bitcoin. And all the hassle caused by their promotors only has dammaged the value of BTC as an asset, or store of value outside of the mainstream system. So now, here we are, bruised and bottoming every day, week lower, until  we will be a note in history. I see more value in the physical bottom in my house than ever now... .  Grin

Sounds like the man in the traffic jam complaining about the traffic.


Not a good comparison, but I give you the freedom of thinking so... .
Does not unground my proposition : the whole alt- fork- shitcoin circus is the ill, virus or any other name you want to give it. And that and exactly that makes the Dimons, or demons and Blanksteins laugh now.



501. Post 48760351 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 19, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
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@het cryptohuis.... it amazed me that for the 5minutes that i was inside with my friend.... there was a Guy talking to be cliënt, a Guy entered and buy btc for fiat in the ATM and another Guy entered the shop as well

There is life in BTC and antwerp....

Tiens, where is it in Antwerp?



502. Post 48768049 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 19, 2018, 07:27:17 PM


@het cryptohuis.... it amazed me that for the 5minutes that i was inside with my friend.... there was a Guy talking to be cliënt, a Guy entered and buy btc for fiat in the ATM and another Guy entered the shop as well

There is life in BTC and antwerp....

Tiens, where is it in Antwerp?

Sint Katelijne vest..... end of the meir

Going to right an update later Wink

My parents live in Antwerp. Will check it out next time I visit. I'll make sure to bring my dad, he loves daytrading BTC :+) Thanks for the update.

so as i walked in ... and as i was waiting someone came in bought BTC with the ATM as it was a daily thing .... i was happy to see that cause @the moment there are only 4 BTCATM's located in belgium.... the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM.... so not to bad for in belgium

now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments
whatever i like it in the streets of ANTWERP to see some BTC LOGO's where people can go in and out as they please
don't mind the writing having a wine during the week, i know normal only the weekend or holidays etc, but have an exception Roll Eyes



10%, in Fiat value or in BTC value?

His name is not, by accident, Van Rossem?  Grin Grin



503. Post 48770011 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 19, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .



504. Post 48770511 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on December 19, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

Quote
now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I don 't know if I would report, I am not to gubermint indeed, or to the contrary even, I am in a fight with our taxman since 2012 lol. But sniffing them and finding out whether honest but naive, or scammers is important for me, if it were only to prevent innocent people falling in the scam. To many bad things already hampering BTC. (Not the level of Ver, Jihan&C° I know, but ok that is another dimension, not my class)  Cool



505. Post 48781341 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: toknormal on December 20, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
I'm going to buy a handful of shares, db won't go under. Banks are going to be making money forever.

The toxicity doesn't disappear just because they get bought or bailed out. It just makes the host toxic.

Who was one of the biggest triggers for the 2008 banking collapse ?

Royal Bank of Scotland.

Why ?

They were reasonably solvent until they "took over" ABN Amro, half of who's balance sheet was filled with toxic sub-prime securities. Like swallowing a bottle of bleach.

Similarly, whoever buys Deutsche, the experience will be like "swallowing a bottle of bleach". But maybe that's something that some people enjoy Wink

They want to merge DB with Commerzbank? That would be merging two bottles of bleach... .  Grin



506. Post 48782060 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 20, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
They want to merge DB with Commerzbank? That would be merging two bottles of bleach... .  Grin
More like mixing a bottle of bleach with a bottle of ammonia.



Yeah better... . And some children playing with matches around it... . Cool



507. Post 48789508 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: infofront on December 20, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
Are we starting to see people FOMO'ing?
Have no fucking idea. I am with my date tonight  and I am confused where should I concentrate more my btc or naked girl laying beside me.

Lets look at this mathematically:

0 BTC + 1 Naked Girl Now = 0 BTC + 1 Naked Girl Later (maybe)
X BTC + 0 Naked Girls Now = X/2 BTC + X² Naked Girls Later

The latter formula reduces itself to:

BTC=2XNG where X is the number of BTC now and NG is whatever it is.
perhaps second variable is needed.

You're right. We can make this a collaborative project.

On a long enough timeline, you inevitably run out of NG 's. Or inverse squared to the xxxx of BTC you have.  Grin Cool



508. Post 48824477 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2018, 04:35:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wmcYTJO.png



goodmorning,CCMF's gogogo weekend F***ing PUMP BTCBTCBTC

Let me take the train, stop!!!!!!!!

I guess I have to hop on, there's no stopping on it.

ask XhomerX to fix you a proper HAT

and i'll make sure your on it Cheesy

This hat isn't valid? Hope Homer will notice this one, or if it's okay to message him?


 I just finished a night shift and I was supposed to pick up the turkey before I sleep but my wife has graciously offered to do that for me to allow me time to make one WO hat before I go to bed.
Hope it fits!

<--snip-->

avatar-sized

<--snip-->


Thanks Homer I appreciate it, this is so cool and hope bullishness comes up too as I will always wear it.

I guess I can get the reservation space now on the train. Thanks again.



find yourself Wink

Lol, I 'm on the bumper... .  Cheesy



509. Post 48971894 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 30, 2018, 05:21:30 PM
How large and corpulent as compared to the Belgian Health Minister?

As with most larger laydeez I'm sure she's very 'caring' and what more do you want from a health minister?

Aaagh, our Maggie? Now she moved to immigration... . We use her as a roadblock... .



510. Post 49126981 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 08, 2019, 11:47:17 PM
Left-ism is a mental disorder based on inferiority complex.  You do not have the right to project your mental disorder onto others and demand they conform to your insanity.

Inferiority complex huh? Seems to be the case for both the far right and the far left. Based on my observations.

The classical scale of ideology is collectivism on the far left and anarchy on the far right of the spectrum.  So, no, it's mostly only leftists trying to force their views on others with threats of violence because collectivism requires everyone do/think the same thing while far right ideologies don't.  

Take white separatists for instance.  White separatists do not give a flying shit what black people think.  They are off doing their own thing and black people can go do whatever the hell they want.  But for far leftist shitlibs like HairyMaclairy, his goal is to attempt to forcibly make everyone think and act the same (communism), which can only be accomplished through violence.  Leftism claims "diversity", yet it's goal is to destroy all forms of diversity, making humans equivalent to ant worker drone insects whose only purpose is to live and die as slaves of the state.

All so called leaders, wheter left or right, wheter called state or any other denomination want that.
Zero ideology and or live and let live is the thing. Very complicated and difficult for most of Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Besides that Roach, it makes nothing out at the extremes of either side, they are the same. And all of those in the middle are FUBAR.   



511. Post 50444051 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

It feels like waking up from a long wintersleep... . (In my case all to true). Bit strange it went again by sudden bumps and not organic growth... .  Wink Wink Wink



512. Post 51615305 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

I love the smell of flash-crashes in the evening!  Grin



513. Post 51639402 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: infofront on June 28, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
This guy graph suggests that we are at Base 4 of the parabolic move:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/OyXoN573-Trading-Bitcoin-in-a-Parabolic-Curve-Possible-30-000-Top/

How do we post tradingview charts here (usual img followed by /img does not seem to work)? Do you need to be a member there to grab a proper html from the tradingview?


$30k top? I think not..

If you believe this:

Then we could be in for a series of parabolic moves up - not just a one and done like in 2017.

Yes, but we certainly will meet a few new scandals and other doom on the road... . Wink



514. Post 51675801 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 01, 2019, 09:15:43 PM
~snip~

Fair enough about reading or not reading posts.

For sure there is a mixture of good, not so good, bad and other variants... .. Also, some days, it is easier to read than others.  Some days, no body can keep up with nuttin, so I would expect only a few people actually read most posts on most days, unless s/he/it really did not have anything else to do.

Even though I post a lot, and some peeps have labelled me as a bot, I still have some other things that I do.  Believe it or no.    Wink

That's cool. Your posts are too good to be written by a bot; I believe that you're a smart man of 30s.

However, talking about bots, I must say that bots can probably do anything if they are capable of doing this:



Mja, the biggest thing is, you can cut their head of without going to jail or worse... .  Cheesy



515. Post 51745802 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: realr0ach on July 07, 2019, 10:44:15 PM

The kike's official ESF/PPT plan is to rig stocks, metals, and digital scamcoins higher in order to try and inflate away bad debt/devalue the fiats.  The plan is literally "inflate all the things".  But Bitcoin has been an artificially manipulated bubble by a single entity on Bitfinex + later their Tether scam ever since the price was $200, so that chart is likely what the price of shitcoins would do if the govt doesn't prop them up.  

Nobody in the general public right now is buying these things; they can't afford it.  The shitbag scammers at Bitfinex know this, which is why they're trying to introduce 20x and 100x leverage to artificially rig the market up, because the general public is not buying.  The public already has all the digital scamcoins they want from the last run to $20k, now all they're doing is sitting on them praying someone else will buy theirs for more than they bought them for.

Gosh Roach, even your own life has been inflated beyond survival rate. Doesn 't affect your activity. Which is how HSS is conceived.  Wink



516. Post 51756282 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Biodom on July 08, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
Two big green dildos in one day...  Roll Eyes

vicious BTC  Grin

We shall call it 'Bit Vicious'

or if only talking about today's happenings...'Bid Vicious'  Cool

I would merit this! But the gods of merit have left me with zero!  Grin



517. Post 51777889 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 10, 2019, 06:16:23 PM
Sold everything in 13k.X range.
I'm little afraid we dip more untill 8-9k before a big up.



That makes sense.... to sell all before afraid we DIP small before a big UP

WTF, where do those guys come from Roll Eyes

So you not afraid if we go up and you left behind with no corn or have to buy at higher prices....

Dude when do you guys learn HODL is the way buy more when it dips start DCA'ing your stack man....

And more important be happy with your FIAT in BTC cause that where your wealth is stash't better anyway, be happy with less $ and more BTC

THINK HEALTHY, you're in the big boys space here!!! Cheesy

Lol, all I can say is that a thing our Cornbaby learned me, is to stay cold blooded always in the actions you take. Even if Corn action appeals for hefty emotions... . And the double ladders do excellent in the case you stay cold blooded.  Grin Grin



518. Post 51778863 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: proudhon on July 10, 2019, 08:14:07 PM
Take it to the bank, ATHs are a thing of the past for bitcoin. The clear downtrend continues.

As I see it, that is over the 2010 -2019, it is hard for me to see a downtrend, do I need to go see a medic?  Cheesy



519. Post 51779017 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 10, 2019, 08:30:13 PM
Damn 1 Lambrusco and 4 wines on a Wednesday.... And F*** i'm still feeling damn happy with this +10K prices

I think i'm out early this evening, bit drunk and gonna watch some more of that Chernobyl series

*I know Fillippone not ideal but sometimes I do like a damn Lambrusco, they don't have it in many places here (always say its the cheap BBQ wine of Italy Roll Eyes )
though still like it sometimes!!!

Ach, a cold Lambrusco, with ice on a warm summer day is not a sin, it is romantic!  Wink (And certainly to prefer over these rosé bubble sugar water like things).  Cheesy



520. Post 51813510 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: TheCryptonianGroup on July 13, 2019, 10:32:40 PM
I don't know if the dude is serious, but like I said, I'm not judging. What would be a reasonable time frame for collecting the coins? 1 or 2 weeks? Minimum 50 or refund after the deadline. Then a second milestone like 1 or 2 months or an exact date and time, and possibly another one after on the way to $50k. Also what exchanges or indexes to use, or most of them maybe (bitstamp, bitcoinaverage, coinbase, preev, kraken, gemini, coindesk, etc)...

I'm not even sure what he was proposing, as ... I don't get to read all the posts, the pages fly by very fast in this thread, so I may have missed something. heheh.

He was proposing we pay 100 Bitcoin, UP FRONT - so that his, er... magic talents would make Bitcoin 'go up'.  Like he has a secret way of moving a multi-billion dollar market and making us all rich if we just pay a load of money up front.

Of course, no one here is stupid enough to give him a single satoshi, but was a slow evening and at least we had a giggle. Bless.

I would have chucked him a litecoion maybe, just for the belly laughs he gave me... until it got a little embarrassing and he threw a few insults at the WO brethren.  

Seriously, escrow offer appreciated, but will not be required. Not for this sad herbert.  Not for any time frame. Ever.

I am proposing that you guys pay 50% now and 50% after we are done. Yes special talents indeed ! And i do have a secret to make a Multi-Billion Dollar market skyrocket, if you do not pay you will never know.

We could not care less about your giggles dear Mister neither we care about your feelings !

If you guys let this opportunity pass then you will regret it later on.

It hurts and bothers when someone makes the rules in the opposition doesn't it?

We do not need escrow, 2 Payments - 1 Before - 1 After that is it !

Or are you guys afraid that we can actually impact the market more than you "Whales"?

I repeat if you do not try you will never know how great of a group we are ! Crying about the upfront payment and annonymous conditions will get you nowhere.

We as a group came out of the blue and will go like that as well, but you guys will never know the potential of our work and willpower !

It will take 365 days but we will make every second worth it

Show your power first, then we will talk, or get out of here. You are boring.



521. Post 51813583 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: TheCryptonianGroup on July 13, 2019, 11:12:20 PM
I don't know if the dude is serious, but like I said, I'm not judging. What would be a reasonable time frame for collecting the coins? 1 or 2 weeks? Minimum 50 or refund after the deadline. Then a second milestone like 1 or 2 months or an exact date and time, and possibly another one after on the way to $50k. Also what exchanges or indexes to use, or most of them maybe (bitstamp, bitcoinaverage, coinbase, preev, kraken, gemini, coindesk, etc)...

I'm not even sure what he was proposing, as ... I don't get to read all the posts, the pages fly by very fast in this thread, so I may have missed something. heheh.

He was proposing we pay 100 Bitcoin, UP FRONT - so that his, er... magic talents would make Bitcoin 'go up'.  Like he has a secret way of moving a multi-billion dollar market and making us all rich if we just pay a load of money up front.

Of course, no one here is stupid enough to give him a single satoshi, but was a slow evening and at least we had a giggle. Bless.

I would have chucked him a litecoion maybe, just for the belly laughs he gave me... until it got a little embarrassing and he threw a few insults at the WO brethren.  

Seriously, escrow offer appreciated, but will not be required. Not for this sad herbert.  Not for any time frame. Ever.

I am proposing that you guys pay 50% now and 50% after we are done. Yes special talents indeed ! And i do have a secret to make a Multi-Billion Dollar market skyrocket, if you do not pay you will never know.

We could not care less about your giggles dear Mister neither we care about your feelings !

If you guys let this opportunity pass then you will regret it later on.

It hurts and bothers when someone makes the rules in the opposition doesn't it?

We do not need escrow, 2 Payments - 1 Before - 1 After that is it !

Or are you guys afraid that we can actually impact the market more than you "Whales"?

I repeat if you do not try you will never know how great of a group we are ! Crying about the upfront payment and annonymous conditions will get you nowhere.

We as a group came out of the blue and will go like that as well, but you guys will never know the potential of our work and willpower !

It will take 365 days but we will make every second worth it

Show your power first, then we will talk, or get out of here. You are boring.

I think i have clearly stated that payment first. Otherwise i believe that is a poor decision..

Boring as I said. I prefer beeing teached by JJG or even animated by Roach pole dancing!  Cheesy



522. Post 51837321 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Where is Roach when he 's needed?  Cheesy



523. Post 51842581 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

WO is poetry!  Cheesy



524. Post 51847600 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 16, 2019, 06:32:34 PM
^
Probably

After I don’t know
Frikandel fries samurai sauce

More Flemish carbonades, sour o :Dnions, tartare sauce all together to make a delicious slurry! ( at actual pricelevel, no onions)



525. Post 51847629 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 16, 2019, 06:56:51 PM
Is it safe to use Bitstamp on iOS to set some buy orders ?


Safari on IOS using 2FA is one of the safest less risky ways of interacting with exchanges imho.  

Lolz, yes it 's true! Only, you have to memorize the 6 digitnumber from the duo app very fast to log in on Stamp... . Cheesy



526. Post 51847744 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: bitebits on July 16, 2019, 07:17:04 PM
Perfect pre-having FUD from the US authorities. Wonder when a little MtGox gets sprinkled on top. Feel we are entering a new era and are in for a wild ride. It is inevitable where Bitcoin goes though, just the timeframe is uncertain.

To future n00bs: No it was not easy holding and buying bitcoins for sub $10k, neither was it for sub $1k. It hurts almost every day, but I am sticking with it and f*cking deserve the outcome.

And for desert abit more Tether whipped cream!  Cheesy

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-16/how-fat-finger-caused-bitcoin-plunge-12-minutes



527. Post 51848985 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 16, 2019, 09:54:16 PM
Well I did my part guys. Bought a whopping 0.1BTC.
That should stop the rot.

Wishful thinking and delusions of grandeur.

Hey.. .do what you can do.

I think that several of us might be playing around with those kinds of ongoing small numbers that also can add up to a lot of value in the process of stacking.

I recall in about mid-to-late 2015, I was setting up my various buy and sell orders, and even playing around with $5 increments and I could only authorize myself to sell very small amounts, because some of my BTC portfolio had buy amounts that averaged something like $500 which was way more than the then BTC price of about mid $250-ish... so I authorized myself to sell such small amounts that were based on purchases that I had made that were sufficiently below the then BTC price.

My then girlfriend would ridicule me on a regular basis that I was wasting my time with such small amounts of selling and then subsequently buying.   I kept telling her that it adds up, and really I am practicing and also generating a kind of insurance that is based on several calculations that include the size of my total BTC portfolio and also how much I make on paper when the price goes up .. but in the end, the goal was to both provide downside insurance and to stack sats (even though such "stacking sats" expression was not then in vogue).

Yes, and even after my laddered sell/buy apprentiship I kept being careful not to put the stack at risk and also being happy with as I call it, "Dust collecting".  Cheesy After all, it makes 10% or something like that over a year... .



528. Post 51858300 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):



I used to consider this theory when writing code. Give me enough time and enough monkeys and I can code anything...so when my boss asks if some sort of software can be written my answer was always a confident "yes".

Then I saw a video where they gave a keyboard connected to a computer to monkeys...and no...monkeys would never do shit with a keyboard. Smack it a bit and just go and play.

So my whole career was a lie.
[/quote]

Hihi, Elwar, you discovered "Homo Ludens" by observing monkeys... .  Cheesy



529. Post 51871373 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 18, 2019, 09:30:24 PM


Odds that we have left 4 figures behind forever:

Today:  10%
1 October: 30%
1 November: 50%
1 April 2020: 60%
1 November 2020: 70%
1 April 2021: 80%
1 November 2021: 90%

You can't do that, hairy mcmac.    Angry Angry

That's out of bounds.

You are projecting too far into a bitcoin future that has not happened, yet.


Furthermore, to be more specific about your egregiousness, you are employing (not only attempting but doing) too many BTC price legs in advance, which breaks the rules of reasonable.

If I were to put a label on your conduct, I would either loosely describe it as reckless or more tightly suggest that it is speculation that overly relies on fractals...

UNFAIR



UNFAIR

That is precisely what you should do if you are taking directional positions and do not wish to get liquidated.  

It is all about risk management.  Of course you update your risk calculations as new information becomes available to you, but you have to have a plan and a pathway, if only to know how you are tracking against it.

Only the ladder drones have the luxury of not thinking for themselves!

I love being a ladder sissy!  Wink



530. Post 51872138 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 18, 2019, 10:58:26 PM


Odds that we have left 4 figures behind forever:

Today:  10%
1 October: 30%
1 November: 50%
1 April 2020: 60%
1 November 2020: 70%
1 April 2021: 80%
1 November 2021: 90%

You can't do that, hairy mcmac.    Angry Angry

That's out of bounds.

You are projecting too far into a bitcoin future that has not happened, yet.


Furthermore, to be more specific about your egregiousness, you are employing (not only attempting but doing) too many BTC price legs in advance, which breaks the rules of reasonable.

If I were to put a label on your conduct, I would either loosely describe it as reckless or more tightly suggest that it is speculation that overly relies on fractals...

UNFAIR



UNFAIR

That is precisely what you should do if you are taking directional positions and do not wish to get liquidated. 

It is all about risk management.  Of course you update your risk calculations as new information becomes available to you, but you have to have a plan and a pathway, if only to know how you are tracking against it.

Only the ladder drones have the luxury of not thinking for themselves!

I love being a ladder sissy!  Wink

Honoured my word!!!!

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Been to a local festival, the one before Tomorrowland .... and been drinking for me and brother BoB!!!!


Cheers bro’s

Drunk into HODLsleep!

@Ludwig, volgende week Gentse feesten op Dinsdag??

Yeps, als jullie eens willen komen, Batastunt, Willem de Beersteeg, door Circq. Verder ben ik Dok psychedelica aan het voorbereiden, 15 augustus. Ondertussen zijn we ook een weekje weg, Zeeuws-Vlaanderen eens dit jaar.



531. Post 51904935 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: serveria.com on July 21, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

LoL ......... Spazio cruising with a few. Roll Eyes

via Imgflip Meme Generator

And current time = almost drunk..... Will be 4 days in a row

DAMN!!!!!!!!

Poor opsec Mic... now the only thing the bad guys have to do is go to Antwerp, locate the place in the pic and wait for a group of Spazio riders to arrive. Then grab the guy on a blue Spazio and....  Sad Sad Sad   

I know where it is, but not a bad guy... .  Cheesy



532. Post 51915576 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: Hueristic on July 22, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
I'm not sure if you're the mod of this thread, but I was curious of something, why do you support and encourage
a resident racist psychopath do be the main content provider?

He is.

I don't understand why It is tolerated by the man with the plan or engaged by long time posters who should know better. It's slowly draining the joy from this thread.

And any newcomer will wonder what the fuck is going on.

I've noticed people like to pile on the merits to anyone that engages him and shows what a fool he is.

That is their incentive and his of course is getting the recognition of existence he does not deserve.

Roach is "The King 's fool". That is why I love him! (Sometimes he even says things worth thinking about, rarely yes, but well, who cares).  Cheesy



533. Post 51928160 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 23, 2019, 06:22:27 PM
Having a drink with Ludwig Von as we speak Cheesy

Cosy guy great to have a drink with him (original from the same City as myself Cheesy )

The honours go to you darlinks, very nice to have met you both IRL! and while we were chitchatting, honeybadger seems to have worked hard! Next one in Antwerp, or Gent again, Dok ! (Where I have bonnekes à volontée).  Cheesy



534. Post 51938532 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 24, 2019, 03:58:44 PM
Senate Banking Committee to Hold Hearing on Crypto Regulation

Me and Mnuchin are gonna drop the hammer on this bitch.

What the fuck do you, diptwat, have to do with anything beyond spreading FUD and other various nonsense on the interwebs?  

Projecting some kind of status/position/alliance on yourself?

Yeah, right...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Likely you have been reading too many "grandma and me" books, and just substituted "Mnuchin and me."  Good job.



That is a good one JJG!  Cheesy Cheesy I bought that first interactive CD rom (for what it was at that time), to let my daughter become computer litterate when she was 5 years... . Now she is doing her post doctorate in Oslo... .  Cheesy



535. Post 51972448 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

That big dildo game is boring. pfffffwww bitporn seems to be much less exciting than expected... . (maybe I should not say that)  Grin Grin



536. Post 51972593 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 27, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Enjoy your Saturdays brothers of Wall watching .... me is going Jap style this evening

WoW btw me and cryptoqueeen 6years together on this very 27th July

What an amazing girl and especially of staying with me Cheesy

Enjoy both of you! (Where you do Japanese?)



537. Post 51972661 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 27, 2019, 06:46:37 PM
^
Restaurant K

Ha, a new one! We went weekly to Izumi behind my corner, Beeldhouwersstraat.  



538. Post 51973247 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

$ 06.79  Cheesy it 's just moving the position of zero and using the correct separator Tourist !  Grin



539. Post 51973650 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on July 27, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
$ 06.79  Cheesy it 's just moving the position of zero and using the correct separator Tourist !  Grin

There is no such thing as the correct separator bro. Globally that is. Grin
Thank you btw.

#


Well, we could have a very long talk about separators and sentiment, but actually I am only into spotting big dildos... .   Wink

And You 're welcome!



540. Post 51974557 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 27, 2019, 11:05:39 PM

engaging argumentative noobs and r0ach doesn't make for the best WO

Regarding the user you mentioned, I am always surprised that we can let him deliver the insanities/outrageous opinion he has been uttering here for so long. Some of his writings are punishable and even if this part of the forum is not moderated or very little, some things are not tolerable.

(And I'm not even one of these people he seems to hate sooo much.)

My 2 cents, I had to say it Smiley

TBH, I'm fine with r0ach. It's good to have at least one active troll around who you can bash when BTC pumps tremendously.

R0ach is the best morphine, eugh, vaccine against FOMO, FUD, FUBAR and some more diseases you can have... .  Cheesy



541. Post 51985131 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: Phil_S on July 28, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Damn, we might get to $9600 in a week or two with such craziness...

Lol, Yes, 9650 I guess... . Big dildos have taken a day off it seems... .  Cheesy



542. Post 51988367 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 28, 2019, 10:52:51 PM
Bear trap?

Lets hope so Smiley

Dildo battle!  Cheesy (Not boring)  Cheesy



543. Post 51999177 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 29, 2019, 09:55:02 PM
FUCKING SHIT IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO UP GO UP ALREADY AND MAKE ME RICH FFS

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO DOWN GO FUCKIN DOWN SO I CAN BUY MORE

...and i thought $5k was bad.

Getting stuck at $9-10k feels so disgusting. Don't want to buy many because dunno if it is going to go up sharply or go down and create more buy opportunities.

Sorry for caps, i lost myself a bit.

Just wanted to shout.  Grin

Dude.  I am DCAing a leveraged long position right now. Very low leverage - well under 1:1.   My current dollar cost average is $10,500 and I am totally relaxed because every slight chip down in the price just lowers my DCA.  

Adapt to the price.  Don’t fight it.  We are in a bull market.  The price will go up again.  You will have what you are looking for.

Suddenly I feel very comfortable about my dollar, Euro in my case, average cost. I always tought that since I only took the step in early 2017 after the Gox debacle that had driven me out, I must be on the higher level of average cost among WO habituees... . And actually, by taking JJG ladder strategies and tactics serious, my average cost is lowering month after month. (Except if we hang around with only some red-green dildo battles of course).  Wink



544. Post 52104568 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Quote from: mindrust on August 08, 2019, 08:38:24 PM


If you had a brush in your hand now, how would you draw your lines by looking at this chart? There is only one possible direction which makes sense.

Do you also see what I see?

*$100k incoming (we may skip 2020 too, 2021 is more likely)

Go thru a 7000 to 8000 $ valley first. Seems logic (for what it is worth in this world).  Wink



545. Post 52104729 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 08, 2019, 09:09:32 PM


If you had a brush in your hand now, how would you draw your lines by looking at this chart? There is only one possible direction which makes sense.

Do you also see what I see?

*$100k incoming (we may skip 2020 too, 2021 is more likely)

Go thru a 7000 to 8000 $ valley first. Seems logic (for what it is worth in this world).  Wink

Hm?

Another "down before up" prognosticator.  May the luck be with you, in the event that you are betting on such proposition, along with a decent number of others who are betting on "down before up," yet need not be named at this time.

Well JJG, actually, for me it doesn 't matter. That is what I learned from you. My Corn value is up and I have plenty of coverage down, even lower than the proposed low. And I am happy with small trades in ladders, so also ready for the big one, be it up or down!  Wink



546. Post 52105181 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 08, 2019, 09:47:21 PM


If you had a brush in your hand now, how would you draw your lines by looking at this chart? There is only one possible direction which makes sense.

Do you also see what I see?

*$100k incoming (we may skip 2020 too, 2021 is more likely)

Go thru a 7000 to 8000 $ valley first. Seems logic (for what it is worth in this world).  Wink

Hm?

Another "down before up" prognosticator.  May the luck be with you, in the event that you are betting on such proposition, along with a decent number of others who are betting on "down before up," yet need not be named at this time.

Well JJG, actually, for me it doesn 't matter. That is what I learned from you. My Corn value is up and I have plenty of coverage down, even lower than the proposed low. And I am happy with small trades in ladders, so also ready for the big one, be it up or down!  Wink

Hey, Ludwig Von.  I have no reason to doubt your proclamations in regard to having had prepared yourself for either BTC price direction, and therefore your speculation regarding "down before up" is going to carry a decent amount of more credibility, at least in terms of your not talking your books.

However (you see that there is nearly always a "however" hahahaha), I'm still a bit reserved in capitulating to any kind of "down before up" assertion or to give it much credence in terms of expectations.  

Just seems to me that, at this time, there would be a lot more pleasure for bitcoin  (to the extent that baby can feel pleasure), to punish those "down before uppers" because baby BTC  does not really seem like she wants to comply with pattern expectations, especially when there are a decent number of "smart than thou" people who seem so damned inclined to treat baby BTC as a mature asset class, and in the heart of hearts of a decent number of actual smart money folks, there remains a decently strong recognition (even if not outwardly shown) that she is merely a baby, and babies don't really tend to behave how you would prefer them to ... those lil fucks.



You are absolutely right. Just adjust a bit, I am trading in small size, a little bit of my stash, well, small stash, and only looking at a bit of Euro in reserve while keeping BTC going up. And in macro view, I have a feeling that all major world fiat currencies are trying to melt down all together, they also love each other after all... . Wink



547. Post 52163708 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Quote from: Biodom on August 14, 2019, 10:24:12 PM
HM, it looks like short term massive decline in bond's yield is cratering the stock market which, in turn, is affecting btc (negatively).
Gold/silver are outperforming, but probably not for too long (short term).
SP500 at 2150-2350 by October? BTW, SP500 is now marginally negative on a 1 year chart.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX/EsLWA86X-SPX-Top-Date-Coming-2-Sentiment-Low-Free-Market-Timing-Video/

TL;DR If SP500 crashes, bitcoin will go down with it. Then, hopefully, a re-bounce.

I don 't like when BTC follows S&P. Neither if gold follows S&P. It would mean we also run on QE fuel. It should be inverse to S&P... .



548. Post 52227944 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: infofront on August 21, 2019, 08:15:01 PM
Fuck you Dutch - give us Greenland*

*Half-joking

Haha Trump what a guy, delay the meeting with Denmark cause of......  Roll Eyes

He makes it hard to defend him sometimes. TBH I'd vote for him again just for the comedic value, if nothing else.

One day he 's gonna put all stand-up comedians for shit! :-) And win the world 's most spoiled orange todler contest!  Wink



549. Post 52228411 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: JSRAW on August 21, 2019, 08:45:02 PM
Fuck you Dutch - give us Greenland*

*Half-joking

Haha Trump what a guy, delay the meeting with Denmark cause of......  Roll Eyes

He makes it hard to defend him sometimes. TBH I'd vote for him again just for the comedic value, if nothing else.

One day he 's gonna put all stand-up comedians for shit! :-) And win the world 's most spoiled orange todler contest!  Wink

Be careful what you wish for  Lips sealed Grin



This is a big work of (very contempory) Art JS(not so raw) +1  Cheesy



550. Post 52234985 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Ibian on August 22, 2019, 01:52:51 PM
My bank continues to crack down on me. Just got a call that I can't withdraw my money from kraken to my bank account anymore.

As annoying as this is, it's also good news. If they didn't think bitcoin mattered they wouldn't bother. I'll just have to do all my business in person, maybe use the occasional atm.

In which country are you having this problem. (I intend to use Kraken to withdraw too in the future)
Denmark.

It is a bit worrying to see banks making trouble intra-EU. I am in Belgium and have so far not had problems with transactions between my bank (ING) and Kraken and Stamp.



551. Post 52246482 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Ibian on August 23, 2019, 06:30:39 PM

Countries without tax on crypto

Malta
Portugal
Belarus
Panama
Puerto Rico
Singapore (individuals don't pay tax on profits from the crypto trading)
Slovenia (if you have less than 100 tradable days per year)
Germany (if you hold at least 1 year)
Liberland (very pro-bitcoin micro state)
Austria (if you hold at least 1 year)
Denmark is still taxless. It won't STAY that way, getting out while I can.

As a private person, non professional, profits from monetary metals and BTC are taxfree in Belgium also. Even no need to declare as income.



552. Post 52246886 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: bkbirge on August 23, 2019, 08:01:06 PM

Countries without tax on crypto

Malta
Portugal
Belarus
Panama
Puerto Rico
Singapore (individuals don't pay tax on profits from the crypto trading)
Slovenia (if you have less than 100 tradable days per year)
Germany (if you hold at least 1 year)
Liberland (very pro-bitcoin micro state)
Austria (if you hold at least 1 year)
Denmark is still taxless. It won't STAY that way, getting out while I can.

As a private person, non professional, prfits from monetary metals and BTC are taxfree in Belgium also. Even no need to declare as income.


How are they going to know that you are holding crypto if you do not publicly disclose your addresses? It's only possible if someone is willingly paying their tax and one should do so.

KYC. At some point most people have to get on a gateway to convert fiat to crypto and, at least in the developed countries, those are increasingly requiring stringent identification. Additionally there are some smart people that are already creating tools to track wallet movement and they can use a variety of techniques to tie those to people and groups. Basically, it wouldn't be smart to count on avoiding the taxman.

The taxman is not interested in our crypto holdings, because they are not taxable. That is why we do not need to declare anything. The legal concept is that we buy gold or crypto with already income taxed fiat.



553. Post 52246931 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/stocks-dollar-crash-gold-explodes-stunned-traders-react-series-surreal-events

It was probably already priced in the BTC valuation, otherwise we we also shout at the moon?

Or

Sometimes the Zerohedge guys make mouse shit into dino shit in their headlines... . Dow down 2.5% lolz  Grin The Golden Gollem of (agent) orange MAGA will have to work
harder to make his FED print more funny money... .  Cheesy



554. Post 52247130 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: rebal15 on August 23, 2019, 09:26:29 PM
if you won't answer, she will practice deception.
if your answer will be no, she won't believe what you say.
if your answer will be yes, she will tell you we don't have money to have children.
if your answer will be yes for the moment, she will try to get as much as she can from you as early as possible.

I guess you have your own unique way around women.



Hey you should meet up with r0ach in rl, you seem to have a lot in common. Kiss

Hey I should meet up with McAfee in rl, we seem to have a lot in common. Kiss


"A lot in common". Not possible, you are junior, he is fossil, what would be the common specs? Stone balls?  Grin



555. Post 52247336 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: gentlemand on August 23, 2019, 09:56:15 PM
Sometimes the Zerohedge guys make mouse shit into dino shit in their headlines... . Dow down 2.5% lolz  Grin The Golden Gollem of (agent) orange MAGA will have to work
harder to make his FED print more funny money... .  Cheesy

Zerohedge, the site that predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.

As a gentlemans agreement, + 1  Wink



556. Post 52276730 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on August 26, 2019, 10:09:25 PM
Quote
and the thing is basically underwater already.  Any type of bad weather and the whole thing is submersed and you die.

Maybe build something that is underwater ... or floating ... like those seasteads. Or similar to oil rigs.

Or a wall around it. As a Dutch person we don’t have a problem with living below sea level.

I just made a trip thru Zeeland, holiday. We came in Ouwerkerk so we visited the 1953 museum. After I started talking to the local people, who are descendants of the survivers. None of them believe they are safe, as the official narrative goes. And they are very suspicious about the sealevel... . There is a difference between official talk and sentiment in those involved in it... . Where do you live Wilhelm?



557. Post 52286211 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

And Dollar-Euro fiat marching towards parity, is there a peg marriage in the making?  Wink Wink Wink Like a bromance Trump-Macron? (a bit Monty Python, I know)... .



558. Post 52294943 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: podyx on August 28, 2019, 06:16:08 PM
I guess $8k coming up?
6



559. Post 52294983 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: mindrust on August 28, 2019, 06:18:10 PM
OH noo nooo nooooo! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo

$8k INCOMIIIIIIIIIING

BAKKT warehouse burned down....  Grin



560. Post 52295008 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: aesma on August 28, 2019, 06:19:52 PM
Wow what's going on ?

Someone took offense at the poll... . No point, loading up fiat... .



561. Post 52295682 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 28, 2019, 07:40:03 PM
r0ach would have even more bragging rights (for traders) if he had mentioned RHODIUM's three month spike in price, up some 50% since 30 May (from some $2850 per oz to some $4450 today (depending on who's quoting), up over $100 since yesterday):

https://apps.catalysts.basf.com/apps/eibprices/mp/DPCharts.aspx?MetalName=Rhodium%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&Market=EIB

Rhodium is a platinum group metal, very rare, used in automotive catalysts, searchlights and as the watchface numerals in some Rolex watches. 

You know, in case you care.  :p

Unlike r0ach, I'd rather hold Au over Ag.

If I'm not mistaken, Bawb gots himself some Rhodium. In the form of a limited-edition Neumann U87.

No rhodium for me. Too esoteric. How do you trade it after the zombie apocalypse? (My Neumanns are in traditional nickel and subdued black matte).

Neumann, you are a musician or a sound engineer?



562. Post 52295960 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 28, 2019, 08:17:22 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Bawb gots himself some Rhodium. In the form of a limited-edition Neumann U87.

No rhodium for me. Too esoteric. How do you trade it after the zombie apocalypse? (My Neumanns are in traditional nickel and subdued black matte).

Neumann, you are a musician or a sound engineer?

Yes.


I am a lighting fag... .  Cheesy



563. Post 52314429 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

And same player shoots again... .  Grin



564. Post 52350637 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on September 03, 2019, 07:43:25 PM


https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1168893116725760002

Ha, interesting. Can you find this with a linear price scale?



565. Post 52350903 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on September 03, 2019, 08:52:22 PM

Well, I didn't find it on a linear scale anywhere, so I just made one for you myself:



TBH, this one doesn't look so cool as it looks like something flat just went up. BTC has always been a lot cooler on a log scale.

That is of course true, looking cooler on log. But I also like lin, it gives a more realistic image. Thanks, weldone!



566. Post 52351217 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 03, 2019, 09:39:12 PM

If somebody could pull an average diagonal line and add in some future predictions?
That’d be great!  Kiss

Edit: seems to be 2.45x on average. So next year is 25k then 125k...

Yeah but please pay attention this is just September 3 price and we all know what happened in December 2017  Cool

Yes, but still that did not change the next years situation. (Although the year between was, eugh, rOachish... .  Grin



567. Post 52372121 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 05, 2019, 09:33:27 PM
This apparently is what happens when you trade your Bitcoin for Bcash

BTC Lambo v12 6 litre
BCH SEAT 3cyl 1.0 litre

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/1169428352786206721?s=21

LoL  Grin  yesterday talking about to BCH with source link final result got Red trust from Lauda Cry

Why do you keep responding to posts about Bcash here... as if you are sympathetic to bcash or feeling sorry for yourself in regards to your tag.. we don't care about bcash, here....

Regarding your red trust,  you gotta move on, if you are capable...  

The problem is that it is likely that what Lauda had observed regarding your bcash sympathies happens to be true.  If you are not capable of moving on and/or proving yourself and your purpose to be otherwise, then I have difficulties in speculating how you would get your red trust removed.... Lauda is not likely to back off of her decision to red mark you unless you were to clearly and unequivacolly either reform your ways or to show through your posting behavior that her assessment might have been premature.  Repetitive complaining about it, including even attempting to blemish Lauda, which a lot of shills and trolls resort to, is certainly NOT going to help matters... and would just end up re-enforcing any resolve from Lauda to keep the red trust... that's my thinking.  In other words, members enjoy a considerable amount of discretion regarding their employment of redtrust.



Edit:  Exhibit A below
Heads up! I'll be recording a discussion on economics with Dr. Craig Wright & Prof. Steve Keen next Tuesday.

We're focusing only on economic views & solutions, rather than #Bitcoin history/technical - but if you have a burning question you'd like to ask, reply with it here.


Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSVtrain/status/1169577318487953408

Do you believe that anyone here, besides the Bcash trolls and shills, gives any ratt's ass about anything that fraudster Craig Wright has to say, on any topic?   Get real.  You are in the wrong thread with that nonsense.

I fell of my chair seeing Steve Keen named in the same phrase with CW... .   Shocked



568. Post 52380315 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 06, 2019, 06:02:33 PM




The first major resistance for the shorterm is marked with the yellow area. Around 10.800 Usd to 11.000 Usd, it depends when it gets there.

Well, bitcoin reacted around $10.950 . Just as we thought, the first major resistance between $10.800 and $11.000 was really there.

Well, that was fast!  Wink Now see if your bottom holds... . And then, what 's next?  Wink



569. Post 52380349 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: mindrust on September 06, 2019, 06:05:44 PM
Uhmm uhmm uhmm more cheap coins, tomorrow is a shopping day for me!

Why wait till tomorrow? Grab'em now!  Cool  Tomorrow may be too late already.

Banks don't work at night and this might go lower. I was going to buy tomorrow from any price anyway.

And it seems they also don 't work over weekends, sigh, that is their fully integrated automated superfast way of operating... . The computers need their weekend to rest... . Grin



570. Post 52380987 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 06, 2019, 07:33:51 PM
Nothing goes straight up. We had a nice mini rally from 29 Aug until now. From $9300 to almost $11.000.
Shorters wondered what happened? Now bulls wonder the same thing.

I am no bull nor a bear, lest a shorter. I am a lean and mean hodler cat. So let 's see if your bottom holds and look what comes next... .  Wink Cheesy



571. Post 52381085 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 06, 2019, 07:55:54 PM
Nothing goes straight up. We had a nice mini rally from 29 Aug until now. From $9300 to almost $11.000.
Shorters wondered what happened? Now bulls wonder the same thing.

I am no bull nor a bear, lest a shorter. I am a lean and mean hodler cat. So let 's see if your bottom holds and look what comes next... .  Wink Cheesy

No hurry please, i need a pattern.  Wink So i need some time.
There's no crystal magic ball.  @phillippone thinks i behave like i have one or some kind of magic tribal hocus pocus thing  Cheesy
I was just lucky this week, because majority didn't take me seriously. If i get the pressure i think it wouldn't be so good.

Not sure you were just lucky, as I said, let 's see what happens next... . IMHO we are a bit to high for normal or say, organic growth.  Wink



572. Post 52381463 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 06, 2019, 09:12:21 PM


Lol, that 's me!  Wink Cheesy



573. Post 52381825 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: d_eddie on September 06, 2019, 10:06:18 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?

 1 per day paid out every 2 weeks Smiley


Actually it's a bit more complicated. It takes into account if the user has actually made at least one post per day (cumulative: posts in the previous 2-week periods do count). Here's the relevant quote from meta.

Ranks



The way activity is calculated:
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

Activity is updated every hour.

I am not interested in forum status or any other qualm of vain. Just reading is a pleasure... .  Wink Cheesy



574. Post 52382053 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 06, 2019, 11:00:16 PM
This is no "crypto bear market" but rather a post ICO bubble bitcoin bull market. The year is 2003, 99% of dotcom IPOs are dead, and just like AMZN then, BTC today is a screaming buy.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/tuurdemeester/status/1170100705731993600?s=21




Comparing Amazolonia to corn, honeybadger, lol, we will see, in our timeline!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



575. Post 52390189 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 07, 2019, 08:50:11 PM

Is that the Belfort in Brugge?
I was there a few weeks ago 😅👍🏻

Haha no your wrong  Tongue

Its Antwerp Cathedral and I had dinner close there.... walking away from the resto .... I saw there was a big event projected on the town Hall about world war II and the liberation....

Was Made very nice

It was Liberation party... . My old neighbours from Kattenberg were again on demo with their old US WWII military vehicles... . (Better maintained than current Belgian army stuff) Cheesy Cheesy



576. Post 52390458 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 07, 2019, 09:14:28 PM
Yes, i know, sorry for that
it's hard to find everyone. I will add you to the list. If anyone is missing to the list, you can message me and i will update the list.

edit: done  Wink

Meugh, I should be there too ! Red lantern : sent one received one!  Wink Wink



577. Post 52390613 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 07, 2019, 10:08:14 PM

Roach's birthday party?  Grin

WWII liberation celebration in Antwerp. And the images could be rOach birthday, but more likely the wet dream of the current crypto fascist mayor of the city, also party führer herr Dewever. Who is currently working hard to blow up the country by doing nothing... .  Grin Grin



578. Post 52390802 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Dabs on September 07, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
.. however, part of the problem is then attempting to figure out where I would like to put such extra cashing out value... There will be a bit of a dilemma for me, that it would be better for me to attempt to resolve ahead of time, rather than trying to figure out that channeling of funds issue during another exponential BTC price rise, if that were to come again.   

Help others ... give them both the advice of your more than 30 years experience as well as a little start ... your prodigy just might be the next Warren Buffet.

But that is exactly what JJG does. Be could blooded, not frozen, not boiling and thread lightely so no bull or whale or bear hears your steps... .  Cheesy Some dislike JJG long discours, but mostly he is saying interesting things. And just as everyone of us he also sometimes has a grumpy day... .  Wink Cheesy



579. Post 52390897 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 07, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
WO September Statistics (Merits Received/Sent)

micgoossens received 45 sent 45
fillippone received 31 sent 12
SuperTA received 28 sent 27
makrospex received 27  sent 18
JayJuanGee  received 25  sent 39
LFC_Bitcoin received 21  sent 25

vroom received  19 sent 3
Globb0 received 18 sent 40
Icygreen received 18 sent 4
Toxic2040 received 18 sent 0
d_eddie received 17 sent 8
Last of the V8s received 17  sent 6
mindrust received 16  sent 20
xhomerx10  15 sent 4
VB1001 received 15 sent 13
Dabs received  14 sent 96  
Wilhelm received 14 sent 20
jojo69 received 14 sent 4

HairyMaclairy received 9  sent 11
Arriemoller received 9  sent 1
BobLawblaw received 9  sent 0
lightfoot received 6 sent 0
heslo received 6  sent 1

Raja_MBZ received 5  sent 4
Elwar received 5 sent 0
Lambie Slayer received 5  sent 0
Krubster received 5  sent 0
arewethereyet? received 5  sent 0

Torque received 4  sent 5
JimboToronto received 4 sent 4
nutildah received 4  sent 3
Negotiation received 4  sent 2
psycodad received 4  sent 1
Totscha received 4  sent 1
Dunkelheit667 received 3  sent 5
JSRAW received 3 sent 4
DaRude received 3 sent 2
Findingnemo received 3  sent 0
tranthidung received 3  sent 0
becoin received 3  sent 0

sirazimuth received 2  sent 5
jbreher received 2  sent 5
bitcoinPsycho received 2  sent 4
gentlemand 2  sent 4
DaRude received 2  sent 3
Ibian received 2 sent 1
Kylapoiss received  2 sent 1
Saint-loup received 2  sent 1
Pamoldar received 2  sent 0
nikauforest received 2  sent 0
GreatArkansas received 2  sent 0
STT received 2  sent 0
akhjob received  2 sent 0

vapourminer received 1 sent 9
cAPSLOCK received 1  sent 6
Ludwig Von received 1  sent 2
serveria.com received 1  sent 6
kingcolex received 1  sent 5
Wekkel received 1  sent 1
Majormax received 1 sent 1
smartcomet received 1  sent 1
hodl_2015 received 1  sent 0
Lucius received 1 sent 0
bitserve received 1 sent 0
Lauda received 1  sent 0
realr0ach received 1 sent 0
_javi_  received 1  sent 0
somac. received 1 sent 0


infofront 0  sent 4
P_Shep received 0  sent 3
bkbirge received 0  sent 2
ivomm received 0 sent 1
Cryptotourist received 0  sent 1
Phil_S received 0  sent 1
Hueristic received 0 sent 1
Bossian received 0  sent 1
hugeblack received 0  sent 1
btcbeliever received 0 sent 1
rs1x received 0  sent 1


Ok, now the list is updated. Here are all WO users (79 users) who posted at least 1x in WO this month. I didn't count users who didn't send or receive any merit in WO (September). I also included all of the WO merit senders that i could find for this month, even if they didn't have any post here.

And now you have one more! You are a data freak, good for me, I am an emotion freak so that adds on!  Cheesy



580. Post 52398256 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 08, 2019, 05:11:53 PM
Bitcoin: You can win if you want! Just hold me tight! Take my hand, follow me...

Just wait until tomorrow evening, I uploaded fiat to Stamp on Friday. Not yet arrived. And it is the first time since mid 2017 I uploaded fiat... . Wink Wink



581. Post 52404930 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

It looks like the bankrunner bringing fiat from my bank, Ghent Be to the Stamp bank (in Slovenia) somewhere got lost. Next time I will include a routeplanner when I try to do that again... . Angry Grin Angry Sad



582. Post 52418625 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: SuperTA on September 10, 2019, 07:45:54 PM
who bought at the top?

Not WO, we sold at the top, remember  Cheesy

(at least those who trade)



On a different thought, the guys (PBOC?) who are doing these dumps, they seem to have very good TA, it is everytime under the same conditions and everytime a bit of a surprise. Well, that last thing, no more a surprise but recurring... . Grin Grin

Moar fiat to Stamp, hopefully now my bankrunner knows the road... . Cheesy



583. Post 52436206 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 12, 2019, 04:26:28 PM
OT: This is a HUGE red alert flag if the U.S. is seriously considering this...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/12/mnuchin-says-the-treasury-is-seriously-considering-issuing-a-50-year-bond-next-year.html

Zero interest rates in the U.S. soontm

BUY BITCOIN. BTFD.

Sweden is considering a 100 year bond. https://borsvarlden.com/artiklar/riksgalden-blickar-mot-obligationer-med-loptid-pa-100-ar/

Argentia and Austria already have 100 year bonds. And apparently Argentina is on the break of default... .



584. Post 52461569 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 15, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Boredom breaker where is this what is this what are we doing Cheesy

Yerseke eating oysters!  Cheesy



585. Post 52469414 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on September 16, 2019, 06:33:00 AM
The next 24 hours is hypercritical.  Shocked Our fates are intertwined with whether we end up 5 dollars over or under 10300.

If 10305 is surpassed we could hit 10310 in a matter of days, jarring the the global fiat financial system in such ways as could pit all the governments of the world instantly against us as bitter enemies.

If 10295 is breached prepare for a plunge over the next week to 10290 as bears attempt to finish off Bitcoin once and for all.

Our best course of action is to slowly and steadily climb to 10305 over the next 4 months so as not to rock the global financial boat too much and attract too many get rich quick and ponzi schemer types.



 Wink next 24 hours, ok we 're on the watchtower!  Wink Wink



586. Post 52475092 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: kurious on September 16, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
What we know about Tera

IQ > 140
Unmatched all time accuracy calling it up and down
Actual understanding of fundamental and technical aspects that move the market

Unknown

Gender
Time of return

She (for I am sure she was a 'she') disappeared at the sheer frustration of no one listening when she was largely pretty spot on.  She did very well by using pure TA on shitcoins and BTC and retired from her job at the end of 2017, I recall.

Everyone shouted her down, but I miss her.  

Example: here she predicted in late 17 what the low would be after the top blew off as everyone was in full FOMO mode:

Looks like a good time to buy bitcoin??
You can scrape some more gains out of this rally but only if you can manage sell before the drop to $3K.

The best Cassadra the thread ever had IMO.  

Cassandra.  Wink She is alive and everywhere!  Cheesy



587. Post 52475185 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2019, 10:02:45 PM
What we know about Tera

IQ > 140
Unmatched all time accuracy calling it up and down
Actual understanding of fundamental and technical aspects that move the market

Unknown

Gender
Time of return

She (for I am sure she was a 'she') disappeared at the sheer frustration of no one listening when she was largely pretty spot on.  She did very well by using pure TA on shitcoins and BTC and retired from her job at the end of 2017, I recall.

Everyone shouted her down, but I miss her.  

Example: here she predicted in late 17 what the low would be after the top blew off as everyone was in full FOMO mode:

Looks like a good time to buy bitcoin??
You can scrape some more gains out of this rally but only if you can manage sell before the drop to $3K.

The best Cassadra the thread ever had IMO.  

Cassandra.  Wink She is alive and everywhere!  Cheesy
Hey speaking of, the entire west is heading towards communism.

In germany a baker was faced with a 25k euro fine for having KG instead of kg on the signs in his shop. We are already living under stalinist conditions. Everyone is guilty of something, and the punishment does not fit the crime. Get out of the west while it is still possible.

The whole world is heading towards totaliarism. So it doesn 't matter where you run to.



588. Post 52475277 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2019, 10:27:28 PM
What we know about Tera

IQ > 140
Unmatched all time accuracy calling it up and down
Actual understanding of fundamental and technical aspects that move the market

Unknown

Gender
Time of return

She (for I am sure she was a 'she') disappeared at the sheer frustration of no one listening when she was largely pretty spot on.  She did very well by using pure TA on shitcoins and BTC and retired from her job at the end of 2017, I recall.

Everyone shouted her down, but I miss her.  

Example: here she predicted in late 17 what the low would be after the top blew off as everyone was in full FOMO mode:

Looks like a good time to buy bitcoin??
You can scrape some more gains out of this rally but only if you can manage sell before the drop to $3K.

The best Cassadra the thread ever had IMO.  

Cassandra.  Wink She is alive and everywhere!  Cheesy
Hey speaking of, the entire west is heading towards communism.

In germany a baker was faced with a 25k euro fine for having KG instead of kg on the signs in his shop. We are already living under stalinist conditions. Everyone is guilty of something, and the punishment does not fit the crime. Get out of the west while it is still possible.

The whole world is heading towards totaliarism. So it doesn 't matter where you run to.
For our purposes, somewhere that has already decided to tax bitcoin at a rate that you find reasonable. Denmark as yet does not tax bitcoin, but they will. I anticipate it will be at least 60%. I know my country.
Ok, that is a good point. But sofar, will not last of course, in Be we pay no tax on BTC gains, also not on monetary metals, at least not as long as you are not a professional trader. So I stay here for as long... . (As the country exists of course in our case). Cheesy



589. Post 52510492 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 20, 2019, 02:54:03 PM
WO Game:
Last bit my of summer for Fillippone.

Where I am? Hints of form of clues, not pixel (due to the low information in surrounding pixels), but it’s really easy.



Gibraltar, or the opposite side... .  Wink



590. Post 52513040 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 20, 2019, 09:47:56 PM


I was going to ask what part of the body is that, but the coaster looks like it is preparing to go up.

It is the arm you use to lift a heavy Belgian beer! (As you can see the typical glass in which they come, on top of the btc logo)  Wink Wink



591. Post 52520017 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: VB1001 on September 21, 2019, 04:59:01 PM
Quote
Previewing the debut of trading in daily and monthly physically-delivered Bitcoin on Monday,
@FortuneMagazine
 offers a glimpse of what’s to come
https://twitter.com/Bakkt/status/1175094597355282433

Will the Bakkt Launch Help Bitcoin Go Mainstream?

Quote
On September 22, a product designed to remake Bitcoin as a mainstream investment for the world's investment managers will go live. When ICE Futures U.S., one of the world's largest commodities markets, opens trading at 8 p.m. ET that day, it will offer Bakkt Daily and Monthly Bitcoin Futures, the first physically delivered crypto-currency contracts ever traded on a federally regulated exchange.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/20/bitcoin-futures-bakkt-launch/

This is coming.


https://i.imgur.com/kQ2Rca8.jpg

Well, allow me to be extremely sceptical of wheter this will be positive for BTC. Probably yes at first, but long term no. It will first try to suppress volatility, later become a tool for outright manipulation. Just like what happens with gold.



592. Post 52520442 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 21, 2019, 06:25:06 PM
Quote
Previewing the debut of trading in daily and monthly physically-delivered Bitcoin on Monday,
@FortuneMagazine
 offers a glimpse of what’s to come
https://twitter.com/Bakkt/status/1175094597355282433

Will the Bakkt Launch Help Bitcoin Go Mainstream?

Quote
On September 22, a product designed to remake Bitcoin as a mainstream investment for the world's investment managers will go live. When ICE Futures U.S., one of the world's largest commodities markets, opens trading at 8 p.m. ET that day, it will offer Bakkt Daily and Monthly Bitcoin Futures, the first physically delivered crypto-currency contracts ever traded on a federally regulated exchange.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/20/bitcoin-futures-bakkt-launch/

This is coming.


https://i.imgur.com/kQ2Rca8.jpg
Well, allow me to be extremely sceptical of wheter this will be positive for BTC. Probably yes at first, but long term no. It will first try to suppress volatility, later become a tool for outright manipulation. Just like what happens with gold.

Bitcoin is not gold - even though you are likely correct that there are going to be plenty of attempts to manipulate bitcoin in the same kinds of way.  A relevant and material question remains about whether there is going to be the same or similar levels of success in manipulating bitcoin as there has been with Gold.  I would not assume the latter before it has had a sufficient and reasonable opportunity to play out and to be sufficiently and adequately tested.    Let's see... let's see.

By the way, Ludwig Von, let's assume that you are correct about the ultimate manipulation success of various traditional financial tools to adequately and meaningfully manipulate BTC into a kind of meaningless oblivion:   how long do you believe that such meaningful manipulation is going to play out before it achieves success?  2 years?  5 years? 10 years?  20 years?  Can we still benefit by being in BTC in the meantime while we are monitoring the level of meaningful manipulation of BTC and whether it will actually play out?

In other words, my questions are still implying a BIG so what to your hypothetical because we should not assume the second part and even if the second part will play out, as you suggested, we have time to still both benefit from the shorter term and to be able to get out of BTC if we recognize some actual meaningful interference with bitcoin's actual use case(s) due to such manipulation (that hypothetically ends up being successful).

As you said, we will see. And my scepticism goes in the first place to the intentions of big money. As it reads in the Fortune article, they intend to "Stabilize" BTC. Whatever that may mean. I remember having read similar things about the CME thing. Now, as for me, no problem if they burn their asses on BTC, after all, it 's what they deserve... .  Wink



593. Post 52520606 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 21, 2019, 07:16:27 PM
[edited out]

As you said, we will see. And my scepticism goes in the first place to the intentions of big money. As it reads in the Fortune article, they intend to "Stabilize" BTC. Whatever that may mean. I remember having read similar things about the CME thing. Now, as for me, no problem if they burn their asses on BTC, after all, it 's what they deserve... .  Wink

You really believe that bitcoin gives two shits about the CME thing?  Do you really believe that the launch of the CME actually caused BTC's 2018 correction? 

In other words, fuck their claims of being able to successfully be able to stabilize (or manipulate BTC prices).  Sure, on a personal level, you might want to make sure that you are prepared for some of their possible success in that direction, but I would not short change myself in my preparedness for BTC prices to go up and their stupid ass attempts at manipulation and stabilization to not be as successful at they fantasized to be able to achieve.

Oh no, in fact I think they overestimated their impact. And indeed, there were a whole lot of other events that caused the blow off top. (Just as there was a lot of irrationallity on the upramp). And as it happened, it was bliss for me. (Just the quasi winter that followed was not so nice). And I do only prepare for upwards, big upwards, but not to fast. In ladders with small steps!  Wink Wink



594. Post 52546449 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 24, 2019, 04:16:11 PM
Meanwhile: is the dump over?  Cool

They have a lunchbreak... . Grin



595. Post 52548647 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Zut, been offline for a few hours. Hummm the dumpers skipped dinner and worked overtime. Very strange all these coincidences, hashrate drop, BAKKT and lulz about institutional money, smells FUBAR all the way and miles against the wind. We will see and buy more, again... . Bring AEC (Average Euro shitcoin cost) down substantially looks like the tactics appropriate now.



596. Post 52619442 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: mersal on October 01, 2019, 07:08:14 PM
I want to see these statistics when Bitcoin reaches its bullish trend



You may have to see the money injected into the Exchanges to list or try to give shitcoins oxygen ...


Do you have a link to the source of that chart, or is the chart behind some kind of firewall?

Of course, the article is here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-01/tether-not-bitcoin-likely-the-world-s-most-used-cryptocurrency

and the graphic source was taken for Coinmarketcap.com article
But the title of that chart should be "Most traded crypto currency today" not the most used.

People using tether for trading alone but BTC used on many places other than exchanges,check darkweb for example. Cheesy

Wrong headline : Tether is the most fake shitasscoin ever!  Wink Wink



597. Post 52696364 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 08, 2019, 07:20:13 PM
Where did "fatty fuck you" come from? Its all over WO. Am I missing out on something?

he seems to be a BigBlocker.

Surely a reason for personal denigration, if ever one there were.  Roll Eyes


The current era of big blockers are fraudsters and scammers.  Just spend 10 seconds researching Ver or CSW.  

That’s sufficient reason for personal denigration.  

I am an unapologetic big blocker. I am neither fraudster nor scammer. IOW, Go Fuck Yourself.

You are in bed with CSW.  

A man is known by the company he keeps.

I love juicy Hairy spot ons... .  Wink Wink



598. Post 52719159 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 10, 2019, 11:33:21 PM
Good news YangGang. Our outspokenly pro Bitcoin/Crypto future President Andrew Yang has regained 3rd place again in Democratic Nomination betting markets.

He was briefly overtaken by Hillary Clinton and put into fourth as she stirred up speculation that she will run again. However Yang has conquered her and Biden and Warren are next on the hit list.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3633/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-presidential-nomination

Trumps prospects look dimmer by the day as his own homies Foxnews have released a poll saying 51 percent of Americans back Impeaching and removing him from office. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment

Whoever is the Dem nominee will likely be the 46th pres imo and imo that man is Andrew Yang. We can expect the debates to get unprecedented ratings as people realize how vulnerable Trump is. As America turns its gaze towards Yang he will surge in popularity as he exposes the other candidates as too old, too out of touch, or too much of a corporate whore.



There will be a lot of "Slaying" needed for that to happen Lambie. But I hope for you (and me too), it could happen. Too much not the onion bad cinema happening in the US and ROW... .



599. Post 52729522 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 11, 2019, 09:05:14 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50023008
Quote
Mastercard, eBay and Stripe pull out of Facebook's Libra
#rekt

It's Zuckerberg's fate.
He is not smart enough for these types of businesses.

Now, may the real roach please stand up and rant some nazi shit about his asian wife...  Roll Eyes

Mistake : this was just a test run. When his time comes, Zucksuck will be president of the US and chairman of the FED and replace the $ by Libra, to solve the reserve currency debt issue... . Grin Grin Grin



600. Post 52737875 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Amazing wine ....!!!

*cryptoqueeen found it the best one till now (this evening)

If she had only choosen on the name, it was already a winner! (Peace and Lust). Enjoy!



601. Post 52749560 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 13, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
Stop dumping guys.

Ready to start buying... .  Cheesy



602. Post 52760415 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Dugh, the prophets, wise men, mad math analysts were right again : "We will not see 10K again soon... . Only, we are on the other side of the fence... .  Wink Wink



603. Post 52771188 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 15, 2019, 10:20:01 PM
sad to say but the Brits opened the Pandora's box with this weak "Leave" vote in 2016. Scotland is preparing a second independence referendum. the Empire is gone forever. the oldest democracy of the world is destroyed. oh my goodness!  Cry

#emotionsarereal

As far as I am informed, the democratic thing was after Cromwell, a rather, ugh, cruel thing, and only became an empire because of very undemocratic actions after that "Democratic" thing happened. (And is now a slandering thing on it 's ordinary people). No way out, for the Umpire... . To be clear, no way out for EU or US neither. Except infighting to death of all... .



604. Post 52781891 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: d_eddie on October 16, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
Maybe in the end, we are on similar grounds when the vast majority of our BTC holdings is in the background in HODL status rather than playing around with it?

Yes. I don't even consider myself a trader, since it is a side activity - small stake and a small income - and I get out of trading for longish stretches of time.

Same here, I even do not short-long positions, only limits, based on pure intuition, no TA, just looking at what the whole world is doing... . (Well advised by JJG about ladders up and down). 75% works out well, 25% fails. No point. BTC goes up, ADC sometimes goes up, sometimes goes down. All in all, no other investment would have returned what corn honeybadger did. But let 's not forget : it is unrealised profit as long as we live in a fiat world. (That is why I still hold significant in gold) Not to please Roach, be assured of that!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



605. Post 52782020 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 16, 2019, 10:15:29 PM
Careful out there peeps. Fudsters are working hard to get us under 7700.

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/feds-bust-worlds-largest-dark-web-child-porn-marketplace-following-bitcoin-trail

Dugh, it is just all their customers running to the exit... .  Cheesy



606. Post 52782032 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 16, 2019, 10:15:07 PM




dodo, me too! With Ghent Chateau queen! Cheesy



607. Post 52802495 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Kriptonium on October 18, 2019, 06:51:01 PM
What's up WO Bullish speculative masters, missed us? Wanna change your mind about us pumping BTC to +$35,000.00?

(Y) or (N)

Love ya all still the same Tongue

Nobody here is going to be against @35K, so go for it... . No need to ask!  Wink Wink Wink



608. Post 52802551 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Kriptonium on October 18, 2019, 07:06:02 PM
What's up WO Bullish speculative masters, missed us? Wanna change your mind about us pumping BTC to +$35,000.00?

(Y) or (N)

Love ya all still the same Tongue

Nobody here is going to be against @35K, so go for it... . No need to ask!  Wink Wink Wink

Sure brothers right away, but there is a price for that to pay as we talked about it last time Tongue It was alot so we are prepared to come down a little bit so : 1,593.00 ETH for a Global Advertisement Event Cheesy

Remember us : The Cryptonians - Your 16/17 Pumpy master ? We came here a few monts ago for funding but we were attacked verbally online so it was a pain in the ass to actualy achieve something.

It is still a take it or leave it kind of deal ^^



There is no "But" here, in your butt with but! Wink Wink Wink And to me, ETH, go to a pharmacy maybe, very cheap and you can sniff it!  Grin Grin



609. Post 52802638 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Kriptonium on October 18, 2019, 07:15:20 PM
What's up WO Bullish speculative masters, missed us? Wanna change your mind about us pumping BTC to +$35,000.00?

(Y) or (N)

Love ya all still the same Tongue

Nobody here is going to be against @35K, so go for it... . No need to ask!  Wink Wink Wink

Sure brothers right away, but there is a price for that to pay as we talked about it last time Tongue It was alot so we are prepared to come down a little bit so : 1,593.00 ETH for a Global Advertisement Event Cheesy

Remember us : The Cryptonians - Your 16/17 Pumpy master ? We came here a few monts ago for funding but we were attacked verbally online so it was a pain in the ass to actualy achieve something.

It is still a take it or leave it kind of deal ^^



There is no "But" here, in your butt with but! Wink Wink Wink And to me, ETH, go to a pharmacy maybe, very cheap and you can sniff it!  Grin Grin

How no "But", my butt no my but but ok but because no but it can be no butts?! Trust me i am a doctor.. ETHanol can be purchased on Amazon.. Still not Ethereum tho Cheesy Id gladly sniff that :O

Then go make a deal with Bezos, I am sure he is gonna support! Doctor! Grin Grin



610. Post 52803074 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Dabs on October 18, 2019, 08:23:38 PM
What's up WO Bullish speculative masters, missed us? Wanna change your mind about us pumping BTC to +$35,000.00?

(Y) or (N)

Love ya all still the same Tongue

Nobody here is going to be against @35K, so go for it... . No need to ask!  Wink Wink Wink

Sure brothers right away, but there is a price for that to pay as we talked about it last time Tongue It was alot so we are prepared to come down a little bit so : 1,593.00 ETH for a Global Advertisement Event Cheesy

Remember us : The Cryptonians - Your 16/17 Pumpy master ? We came here a few monts ago for funding but we were attacked verbally online so it was a pain in the ass to actualy achieve something.

It is still a take it or leave it kind of deal ^^

I'm willing to escrow this deal.

Collect 1593 ETH (and I wonder, why not 35 BTC instead). Wait for BTC to hit $35k on named exchange or site (bitstamp? bitcoinaverage?) within specified time frame. Maintain that level for a few days or go even higher. Release ETH to them. Or refund everyone if pump fails.

There's gotta be a time frame.

Ugh ogh, Dabs, means we have to buy ETH? oh noooo Wink Wink Wink



611. Post 52803236 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Kriptonium on October 18, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
What's up WO Bullish speculative masters, missed us? Wanna change your mind about us pumping BTC to +$35,000.00?

(Y) or (N)

Love ya all still the same Tongue

Nobody here is going to be against @35K, so go for it... . No need to ask!  Wink Wink Wink

Sure brothers right away, but there is a price for that to pay as we talked about it last time Tongue It was alot so we are prepared to come down a little bit so : 1,593.00 ETH for a Global Advertisement Event Cheesy

Remember us : The Cryptonians - Your 16/17 Pumpy master ? We came here a few monts ago for funding but we were attacked verbally online so it was a pain in the ass to actualy achieve something.

It is still a take it or leave it kind of deal ^^

I'm willing to escrow this deal.

Collect 1593 ETH (and I wonder, why not 35 BTC instead). Wait for BTC to hit $35k on named exchange or site (bitstamp? bitcoinaverage?) within specified time frame. Maintain that level for a few days or go even higher. Release ETH to them. Or refund everyone if pump fails.

There's gotta be a time frame.

And oh, maybe add another 5 BTC from yourself to make it total 40 BTC. So if the pump fails, I can at least pay everyone else a little more. (divided among all contributors.)


If all parties accept, I can write up a GPG signed contract later and embed a BTC or ETH address.

Escrow or no Escrow both is fine by us. But expect us to run at a minimal efficiency without Money, just like a Motor runs good for a while without OIL then just siezes. We expect to lure customers into Coinbase and various other "Trusted" Exchanges. Why ETH? Well we were the Opinion that BTC might be just too valuable for this job at this time but we ofcourse would accept Bitcoin as a form of Payment as well !

But yes Escrow is a great way to secure the funds of People who are willing to fund this job just in case we fail ! However, rest assured that we are not the type of guys who are looking to fail or give up Smiley

Kind a funny thing : we will invest, through Dabs securing our investment, to pump to 35K. Without time frame. So as everyone here knows, it will happen anyway. So we do away our precious, just to wait for the inevitable and then reward you 5 fold of what we invested? Sounds as you are not only sniffing ETH but also hoping we do te same... . I will sit on the sideline, except if you, as Dabs mentioned, have a clear timeframe that frontruns the finally inevitable... . Wink Wink Wink



612. Post 52812847 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 19, 2019, 07:56:56 PM
This is a very good omen for the Bulls.

Quote
2hr time frame
Sym triangle on RSI - Present on multiple time frames
Possible ascending triangle on 2hr here

We could see a breakout within 9hrs towards 8.1k ..the falling wedge resistance, where things could get even more interesting for bulls



@TheCryptomist

Humm, you mean, plenty of room to go down a lot more?  Grin Grin



613. Post 52812913 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 19, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
^
Though
Always more room UP. Drunk but just, #nohomo

Careful Mic!



614. Post 52844686 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 22, 2019, 08:19:09 PM
Brexit can happen on 31 october and btc rise will come on that day. it is day of bitcoin witepaper and big history for human kind.

possible to see 10k on halloween day  Huh Cool

Not ( x2).



615. Post 52845319 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on October 22, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
Brexit can happen on 31 october and btc rise will come on that day. it is day of bitcoin witepaper and big history for human kind.

possible to see 10k on halloween day  Huh Cool

Brexit won’t happen on 31st October. The opposition party Labour have fucked that up for everybody by voting against the proposed timescale.

I doubt we will see $10,000 in under 10 days time.

Depends, if the EU parliament doesn't accept the proposed deal the UK crashes out on the 31

The EU parliament already accepted the proposed deal, just as the Brit parliament did today. Now they just play over another delay. Which Barnier and Stuka Juncker and Verafstoot said they would not allow. (According to Boris the wolf). What will happen is : nothing. Brexit will only happen when the whole Brussels am Berlin shithouse goes down in flames. Caused by troubles in their PIGS low wage tourist resorts. Meanwhile, we wil continue to be trampled around in Brexshit.



616. Post 52845782 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 22, 2019, 11:15:14 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

I would feel comfortable to see, hear, that agian!  Grin Grin



617. Post 52855257 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 23, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
Was just reading from @100trillion iirc that tools like futures and gbtc are created to suppress Bitcoin's price. Since they do not own actual BTC but still want to short it.  The long of this is,  Bitcoin's price might not be Bitcoin's price, gamed prices and timelines.

However, if the system can't be changed or protected from evil, speculative forces, what would possible solutions for hodlers and adopters look like?

Since these casino games do not involve real BTC, then who are the actors in the real BTC that can suppress the price, in order to support the casino games? There is more here than we see. If I not mistake, the CME guy said that they wanted to take volatillity out. Ugh ogh, really? They are gaming equally in BTC in order to support their casino games. So we will have to get along with that.

That is de BTC PPT : Plunge Provoking Team Grin Grin



618. Post 52855581 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 23, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
Was just reading from @100trillion iirc that tools like futures and gbtc are created to suppress Bitcoin's price. Since they do not own actual BTC but still want to short it.  The long of this is,  Bitcoin's price might not be Bitcoin's price, gamed prices and timelines.

If i dont understand wrong, to supress the price you need actual selling of BTC.
Some morons betting on btc price (cash settled future contracts) cant affect the price.
BUT it seems they managed to get a selling counterpart (baaad whale).. They bet on a low price, and in the other side they actually sell BTC. Then the whale rebuys lower. (rinse and repeat)

Rigged game. They win, we suffer observing walls...



The thing is most of these morons don’t know what the halving is & the effects that the reduced supply will have on the price post halving.

Loads of them will get fucked in the ass financially when the parabolic rise starts, probably in 2021. These noobs can’t suppress the honey badger.

You can’t control what can’t be controlled. Let them have their fun for now, they’ll get screwed eventually.

Whales know what halving is. And are no morons, they would not be whale, no?



619. Post 52878711 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 25, 2019, 08:04:49 PM
Hello again there my freiends. I make a new pridiction about the TA. Readjustmant of my previous one. Today we can expect again another low in the comeing days.
Base on the priore low we touch, the violence in the chart can explain the move today on the BULL TRAP. Its again a good tiem to sale all BTC in remaineing portfolio until again it reach low of 2-3k per Bitcoin.



How much you have to sell, I want it!



620. Post 52888847 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: realr0ach on October 26, 2019, 08:53:57 PM
on second thought

American wahmen are predators so I dress in Vitalik-style bum clothes to not attract attention from them.  Your average American womyn:

1)  Does not respect or care about men at all and just wants to get married because that's what her friends are doing and if she doesn't she will feel defective

2)  Also wants to get married to outsource all of her personal and financial problems onto the man and facilitate her mindless desires like buying a McMansion while not caring whatsoever what the man wants

3)  Facilitating all these mindless desires will cost you decades of work as a debt serf, so your life is virtually meaningless with the superior creature acting as a slave for the irrational whims of the inferior one

With Roach and his alikes, we do not need a bad goverment, nuclear or evironment catastrophe, or other elite evil to cause a massive decimation of humanity... .  Wink Wink



621. Post 52889013 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: realr0ach on October 26, 2019, 09:30:41 PM
American wahmen are predators so I dress in Vitalik-style bum clothes to not attract attention from them.  Your average American womyn:

1)  Does not respect or care about men at all and just wants to get married because that's what her friends are doing and if she doesn't she will feel defective

2)  Also wants to get married to outsource all of her personal and financial problems onto the man and facilitate her mindless desires like buying a McMansion while not caring whatsoever what the man wants

3)  Facilitating all these mindless desires will cost you decades of work as a debt serf, so your life is virtually meaningless with the superior creature acting as a slave for the irrational whims of the inferior one

With Roach and his alikes, we do not need a bad goverment, nuclear or evironment catastrophe, or other elite evil to cause a massive decimation of humanity... .  Wink Wink

Quite the opposite.  From the way I described things anyone can see we live in a matriarchal, gynocentric civilization.  But civilizations are always built by men.  A matriarchal one is dysfunctional and collapses, so the only way for it not to collapse is to change it back to a patriarchy.  But there are certain (((elements))) that want to place bimbo women and 60 IQ minorities in every position of power in order to cause that collapse.

Eugh, Roach, what is your ofspring (quantity) ?  Wink Wink



622. Post 52889299 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: realr0ach on October 26, 2019, 09:50:44 PM
I don't think you people understand how the world works.  There are central planner, half baked technocrats that have calculated the carrying capacity of earth being a lot lower than current population, so their idea is basically collapse areas of western civilization on purpose so it will turn back into agrarian land and all the people will die (Agenda 21 and other such programs).  So you then have evil cult of Judaism members walk up and say "Oh?  Killing all white Christians on purpose like we did in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia?  Yea, let's do that".  

These demonic Jews then team up with the malthusian technocrats - of which the Jews have zero inclination of getting rid of their own kind, just exterminating white people out of hatred - so the Malthusian technocrats just wind up being useful idiots for the Bolshevik Jews in genociding their own.  None of this is actually necessary since K-selection whites and NE Asians self regulate their population growth, which is why places like Russia and US whites are declining in population already.  

The only factor that has to be addressed to stop out of control population growth is to not subsidize R-selection brown people from reproducing out of control by cutting off aid to places like Africa and not allowing them in to white civilizations.

My question was : "What is your contribution to the procreation of the "white Christian" people? I did not ask about your ideological general view of humanity, my question is personal... . 



623. Post 52889317 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 26, 2019, 10:24:13 PM
i made correct prediction on TA analsis other day  Cool

thanke you all subscriber for donation in my channel and sub.  I call on my channel before rise yesterday. all my sub make big money on my live strem. but private stream to only pateron subscriber gave info, but here is a free info for friends here:

Bull trap has occur yesterday and again we will fall here 9300 - 5k

Go to bed, SuperTA, we have our Roach here!  Grin Grin



624. Post 52898575 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 27, 2019, 06:57:02 PM
Sir, you are quite mistaken. There is nothing bigger than Belgium.

Meh, the Flemish part Cheesy

Ca dépend du point de vue!  Wink Wink

https://www.art-gallery.be/nl/painting/2647/MAGRITTE+Rene/La+Trahison+des+Images



625. Post 52921451 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: Icygreen on October 29, 2019, 10:24:30 PM
So I've been mucking around with an embroidery machine for the last week and what initially was an effort to produce a BTC logo for my hat has become much more.  I created these with the WO members in mind and I've thoroughly enjoyed the crafting time. I'd like to share these with all of you if you'll have them. Yes, for free.

Most are ready to go patches for sew on or glue on.
The plain BTC logos in the bottom image (upper left side) are on a tear away backing that leaves only the BTC after applying. Some are on on cotton that can be cut away.

Please PM or email me an address and you're welcome to choose any patch you like, (first come, first serve)
If you'd like to preserve your opsec, set up a burner email address and send only the shipping address where you'd like to receive.  wallobserver@protonmail.com
I'll choose a design at random if none is specified. Size reference, the large patches in the center are 4 inches round 10cm.

I'll likely do more in the future and I'm open to trying or personalizing your design. Let me know your ideas.
Enjoy




 

Done and +5Merit. Besides our nice hats from Xhomerz a badge for our real hat!



626. Post 52921684 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: d_eddie on October 29, 2019, 11:13:20 PM
Guys as I told before, nowadays its very easy and there is only one sentence for that matter....

"I am satoshi"

Signed with the secret key for the genesis block, if at all possible. Or they might as well not even bother.

All that blahblah (Iggy Pop) is mostly mudqwurk by guys who blow more white powder thru there nose than the average whale can, so who are we? Is it important who is Satoshi? No not at all. If he is a person, human, I hope he is happy. Is it NSA, CIA whatever, I hope they are unhappy and want to buy us out!  Grin Grin Grin Grin



627. Post 52921767 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 29, 2019, 11:32:03 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189198697059553285

“Over in Europe and Japan they have NEGATIVE RATES. They get paid to borrow money. Don’t we have to follow our competitors?” @Varneyco  Yes we do. The Fed doesn’t have a clue! We have unlimited potential, only held back by the Federal Reserve. But we are winning anyway!"

Sitting President just retweeted we should have negative interest rates. Its time to stop thinking of the run to 100k and just accept the fact that this Bull Run may not end till we get to 1 million.



Isn 't the whole BTC story about being disconnected from the funny fiat?



628. Post 52931670 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: realr0ach on October 30, 2019, 08:03:11 PM
r0ach keep marching in his war.....

r0ach against the WO-thread, r0ach against the world, r0ach against everything....



The resemblence is touching ROach! ( You certainly know better than us how that ended... .)  Wink Wink

They took a rib out of his corpse, froze it and sent it to Dr Mengele who created Roach out of it! Even better than God!  Wink Wink Wink



629. Post 52941585 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: Dabs on October 31, 2019, 07:03:57 PM
China is making their own version of tether / libra? Then watch as millions of citizens go out, acquire a bunch of ChinaCoin, and go to some exchange based in Malta to go buy BTC.

"The Big Firewall" is going to prevent that... .  Wink Grin



630. Post 52984794 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Bon, going to sleep, hodlsleep. Waiting for Icy 's patches to arrive, to stitch on a physical hat! And dream of a meteorite loaded with 200 tons of silver and a little bit of nickel to hit ROach on the head, just to make him happy... .  Wink Wink Wink



631. Post 52995192 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 06, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

You mean "Brexshitting" ?  Wink Grin



632. Post 53015424 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: realr0ach on November 07, 2019, 09:33:18 PM
Can easily tell BTC was going to drop today.  Long vs shorts are way too high, and ESF Jewish central bankers just rigged metals down while rigging stocks up.  It blatantly obvious the same kikes have been attempting to try and rig BTC to the same up and down cycles as metals, so here comes the ESF trying to rig Bitcoin down at the same time they manipulate metals too.  

These fucktards don't seem to quite understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I ever dump metals to buy overpriced stocks, and digital shitcoiners are all mentally insane and think the price is going to $1 trillion each so never will either.  They'd dump shitcoins for metals way before stocks.  There is NOBODY looking to be a stock or bond bagholder no matter how much manipulation they do.

You can not outlive them ROach!

And you give BTC a lot of credit, versus fiat at least! (finally).  Tongue Tongue



633. Post 53022390 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

 Smiley Smiley Super happy! Received a post package from "Somewhere in Canada" Thx Icygreen, beautiful artwork ! Now I have a real hat, besides our Xhomerx hats! You two should do something together!



634. Post 53076355 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):

Quote from: Globb0 on November 14, 2019, 11:28:24 AM
MicG beat me to it, but I got back on Monday from a trip to find an envelope through my door...



Icygreen - you're a star.  Thank you!

I like that round one, the original community.  Cheesy



Looks like it was a good idea to support Icy! I also received the big round one! Now the hard part : only the smallers fit my hat, so deciding which one should go on what is difficult!  Cheesy



635. Post 53087393 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 15, 2019, 07:23:24 PM




The year is 2021, it’s November & the cold, dark nights are starting to close in & 1BTC is $154,000. Most of the WO’s have cashed in a significant % of their BTC. It’s been a crazy roller coaster since the end of 2020.

Boblawblaw is chilling on his ranch, wiping his ass with $100 bills.

micgoossens married cryptoqueeen in the Maldives, he owns 50 Michelin Star Restaurants across the world.

JJG regularly drives his Lambo around LA, banging chicks & doing blow still writes wall of text on every single page of the WO, trying to figure out, what he tries to figure out always.  Tongue  Roll Eyes

V8 lives in a $12,000,000 countryside estate.

......................

Fill in the rest Wink


Didn't filled in anything, but I did correct one....  Grin

What a hater.    Tongue Tongue Tongue

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It 's called "Antwerp humor" JJG, nothing bad intentions in it, just a bit, well, egh, Antwerp humor!  Cheesy Cheesy Wink Wink



636. Post 53189051 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 26, 2019, 08:02:55 PM
God damn......  Angry Angry

Just when I was done with spinning course... I treated myself on a Pizza Quatro formaggi + 3 rosé wines on rocks....

Then when I was outside I realised I lost all of my BTC on a boating incident few days back  Cry  Cry

I'm here now only to write and believe but damn that boating trip F***

I lost my gold in a boating accident... .  Wink Wink Wink



637. Post 53332549 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Why is selling low so popular?



638. Post 53347071 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: makrospex on December 14, 2019, 07:22:21 PM
I had coloscopy once, without any meds or narcotics. I certainly didn't enjoy it, but it also wasn't a very bad experience at all. A couple of kinda numb feeling pinch-like shoots of light to medium pain sensations, nothing that gets you worried. The "hose" is 10mm thin, so even thinner than an index finger.
Get over your fears and get it done. Don't worry you might enjoy it, because you won't.
Taking pills before coloscopy is something for the ladies  Grin
(sorry ladies, no offense)

EDIT: Just saw the dump. Unexpected, but not that of a surprise, too. #hodl on!

Civilized colonoscopies are done with intravenous diazepam, inducing a dreamlike half sleep which allows you to watch the procedure on the monitor without any discomfort. You don't even feel the insertion.

The worst part is the day before, evacuating your colon with a gallon of disgusting fruit-flavored laxative/electrolyte solution and shitting increasingly lighter-colored liquids until it's clear.

F*ck that, i had to swallow 25g of mannitol (a sugar, used in some sugarfree chewing gums), dissolved in two litres of water.
No defined taste at all. But i suffer from fructose malabsorption and didn't know that back then, as well as i can't digest mannitol and sugar alcohols because of that.
The thing itself was acceptable as an experience, but the rest of the day was a nightmare because of the malabsoption effects.
And for the diazepam: I only do real drugs, and never intravenous Wink

La dame du chateau had to do it just two days ago. She also found the worst part the day before having to drink the disgusting liquid. And I think they used some form of diazepam in the operation here, because afterwards she was a little sleepy off... .



639. Post 53990348 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: fillippone on March 08, 2020, 07:36:24 PM
<...>
UPDATE:
Quote
The situation in Italy: March 8, 2020, 6.00 p.m.
POSITIVE 6387
DECEASED 366
HEALED 622


Press conference of the Head of Civil Protection Angelo Borrelli at 6 pm on 7 March:

7375 people who contracted the virus, currently positive 6387, 366 died and 622 recovered.
Among the 5061 positives:

2180 are found in home isolation
3557 hospitalized with symptoms
650 in intensive care

A lot more infected than registered... .

A couple of graphs I made myself on the John Hopkins University Database


Please note the logarithmic scale.

No someone explain me:


Fatality Rate computed for your convenience:

Code:
Region   Positives  Death  P/D
China    80652      3070   3.81%
Italy    7375       366    4.96%
Germany  799        0      0
Spain    500        10     0.02%
US       2584       16     0.62%
UK       206        2      0.97%





640. Post 53990359 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: kurious on March 08, 2020, 07:49:26 PM
Given Trump seems actively involved in trying to cover up US cases of Covid-19, I now think there is a better than 50% chance this will bring him down.

Maybe. He scrapped the pandemic team in 2018. Then the tests they were using (in spite of tried-and-tested better ones being available) didn't work.  

Also, they have only managed to test around 6,000 people, while the UK has tested 25,000 and other countries are way ahead (Korea is at 170,000).  This is more concerning.

Not testing means figures for 'cases' are meaningless.  It does not mean 'there are no cases' if no large scale testing is in place.... and with no centralised chain of command to collate data and coordinate efforts, things are not looking like they got off to a good start. Plus 28% of people have no easy access to any healthcare and, oh yeah - with no statutory sick pay rules, people have an incentive to go to work rather than stay at home if they are ill.

America is at risk of being found systemically ill-prepared.  

I am guessing we are about to see how a lack of a universal care system (not the norm in first world countries) works in a real time experiment.

Then again if it is #justaflu, I am sure it will all be OK and Trump will come up smelling of roses, he seems just the man for the job.

EDIT: @HM I think you covered a little extra than I first read - and better than I did. 

Trump will go down together with his Titanic stock market, his comedia del arte energy indepency and be shot midship by the little critter with bubble needles!



641. Post 53990400 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 08, 2020, 08:04:16 PM

UK       206        2      0.97%

2 deaths from 206 positivies is a 0.097%. If they were using a simple spreadsheet that kind of error should not happen. That's why we can not trust any of those figures, and much less the skewed stats used as a data source.

No country or regime is providing correct data. All is massaged to avoid panic. We see per day cases, deaths, recovered but not the number of people tested... .



642. Post 53991307 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 08, 2020, 11:29:40 PM
Neither Biden or Sanders will be alive in November if they stay on the campaign trail.

Both are in the high risk elderly category and have serious underlying health problems (Sanders heart, Biden bood pressure (heart?)) and being on campaign trail it will be impossible to self-isolate from the SARS2 virus. Meeting with staff, public, pressing hands at fund-raisers they will be maximally exposed to social networks, it's part of the job description.

If I was a betting man I would put some money on the Democratic contender for president will NOT be Sanders or Biden, possibly someone under-60, Tulsi Gabbard? Pete Buttigieg?

Lol, I thought neither Biden or Bernie would get to the election, even without the little critter... . I would love to see Tulsi, she appears to be the only one with some sort of a brain. But I am afraid we might rather see Hillary coming like the dark witch... . Btw, if things continue as of present, Donald may also disappear before election day... . That is of course, if there will be an election day!. Now, ok, we all have one thing in common : we 're all screwed by the critter! How unifying that is! Grin



643. Post 54017746 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 12, 2020, 11:33:09 PM
Can’t imagine myself being the complete moron of selling my coin as cheap as they are now....

The selling is not done by people who need the fiat now. This is different. I don 't know what it is though.



644. Post 54017869 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 12, 2020, 11:58:51 PM
El Duderino

I wouldn’t want to tell a new girl I was into bitcoin right now. She’d probably call me a loser Wink

Girls are not interested in your or my BTC involvement... . Grin



645. Post 54017937 (copy this link) (by Ludwig Von) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 13, 2020, 12:19:48 AM
Gold is down too.. So are dow futures..
Where is the money going?

It's a good question. ans: USD

... the demand for USD is so high that the repo market froze up. Fed had to pump in first $150billion then upped that to $500 billion (rolling over in a month) another $500 billion rolling over in 3 months and promises for another $500 billion cash in a months time.

bottom line, there is a YUGE bubble in USD fiat and everything else is getting dumped.

Only time can tell where it goes from here. Place your bets, USD fiat, stocks, bonds, crypto, land ... nobody knows the value of anything any longer but they are trained to shelter in USD when they are scared so that's what they do ... even though it is a shared illusion of value.

Fortune favours the brave.

Nobody is going to bail them out, no matter how much funny money is printed, as nobody is going to bail us out. We wil sit down, look and see... .  Wink