All posts made by d_eddie in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 19554850 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Hello, I am a long time lurker and just made myself an account. I've been in bitcoin for a while, but my stash is smaller than it could be. Long story.

I recently made myself a new account on Bitmex, mainly I'd like to lend crypto for interest. I have a couple questions.

1. What do you think of that exchange? Is it fair, honest etc? As a non-US citizen, it is one of the few exchanges that will let you trade and withdraw BTC without too much ID hassle.

2. Do you think it is possible to lend out a small part of my btc? I'm talking 0.5-1 btc.

3. Is this the right forum for such questions? If it isn't, please point me to a more appropriate discussion on bitcointalk, and I will delete this post from here.



2. Post 19557171 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Thanks for your reply, bitserve.

Quote from: bitserve on June 14, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
I recently made myself a new account on Bitmex, mainly I'd like to lend crypto for interest. I have a couple questions.

1. What do you think of that exchange? Is it fair, honest etc? As a non-US citizen, it is one of the few exchanges that will let you trade and withdraw BTC without too much ID hassle.

2. Do you think it is possible to lend out a small part of my btc? I'm talking 0.5-1 btc.

3. Is this the right forum for such questions? If it isn't, please point me to a more appropriate discussion on bitcointalk, and I will delete this post from here.

If your stash is smaller than it could be because of mtgox or any other exchange issues and your are now thinking about lending in bitmex, then your learnt nothing.
I actually learnt my first and only lesson about exchanges before the Gox affair. I lost about 12 btc (roughly 600$ at the time). I did get 300$ compensation 6 months later. A cheap lesson, in my opinion.

Now I"m just trying to learn about trading small amounts. Mostly I'm interested in lending, which appears to be as low risk as it comes. What I specially like about this kind of trading is that all profits and losses are denominated in btc and fiat never enters the equation.

Any advice about where to go study, where to discuss etc. will be most welcome.
Thanks again!



3. Post 19598485 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Quote from: Torque on June 15, 2017, 07:50:23 PM
Day trader extraordinaire Greg Mannarino chimes in on the Bitcoin shakeout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7d1orIEvo

Really sharp guy, good advice

Interesting. I checked it out and I see his point, it definitely makes some sense.

But one thing I don't understand: how can the Powers That Be (central banks, GSachs etc) keep the price low if they have to continually buy? Dump, dump dump... what do they do when the ammo's over? Buy again at a presumably higher price? Every single btc that gets bought by someone else at those lower prices will eventually push the actual rebuying price higher. Or is something escaping me?



4. Post 19604937 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Quote from: Elwar on June 16, 2017, 10:53:02 PM
Yeah this is indeed some great news!
We will get SegWit as wished, without any modifications, and the HF stuff will come later.
However does anybody here if it really will kill ASICBOOST now?
I'm not that deep into the technical stuff and some opinions seems to differ here.
Antpool and Bitmain will probably the last ones to signal. But I'm sure they will do.


From what I have seen, SegWit will make it transparent whenever a miner uses the ASICBOOST exploit. I would imagine this would accelerate a full fix.

From what I understood, there is overt and covert asicboost. Overt asicboost is relatively harmless (small relative advantage) and won't be harmed by segwit. On the other hand, covert asicboost needs the signatures in the same block and can't be done when the witness data is segregated.



5. Post 19639522 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on June 16, 2017, 11:25:06 PM
use ... XAPO card for example.

I've checked it out. Most of these cards have limits for unidentified users of, "1000 USD/1000 EUR". Lifetime limit. Does it mean the cards becomes totally useless after withdrawing 1000?



6. Post 20039036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 09, 2017, 09:52:22 PM
I don't even know what a wall is and I've been lurking since 2013 and joined in 2014. I just come here for the gifs and memes.
Great to have this thread back again.

+1
But kitten pics are too few! Also, I'm interested in real content pearls emerging from the noisy chatter.
Happy to see the thread back on its feet. I'm a long-time lurker too, just joined a few weeks ago.

Kraken just verified my account to Tier 2. It took them less than 2 months. Not bad, eh? They must have very little to do these days.

As for the "what's gonna happen" poll, I can't vote cuz I'm a newbie, but my guess is we'll see some slight upward action sooner than August (say high 2600s to low 2700s), then maybe some more sideways motion or even a slight but significant dip as big money hone their swords. Then in August, I don't think we're really going to the moon, but I'm expecting 3k-3.5k when the dust settles (late Aug/early Sep).



7. Post 20054819 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: Lauda on July 10, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
May be another good opportunity to get some cheap BTC.
Are you sure that we are not heading into times where the opportunity is going to get better?

That's my doubt too. I've got a little fiat ready - not that much really - and my trigger happy finger is itching for the right time to buy more. Truth is, I don't have a single clue. Just hunches.



8. Post 20059020 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: jbreher on July 11, 2017, 01:12:08 AM
It's not clear to me, is what just happened even possible on main net?

6000 blocks mined in a day? Sure. But at what probability?
Very unlikely it could happen on mainnet. Way too many transactions there to get stuck. At least from what I understood, it's been explained as a matter of not enough transactions to fill a large block. BUT to me it shows a poorly planned test.

They cry attack now, and there's talk of a secret testnet. Good luck with that.

Interesting discussion on github (the only public space where such discussion isn't secret) here: https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65

BTW this could be/lead into the possible "slight but significant correction" I forecast for the next 2-3 weeks a couple pages back.



9. Post 20151335 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

I thought there would be a significant dip before August, but I don't think it will be under 2000. Or at least not much under, not for long. I have several buy orders scattered beween 1600-1900. My guess: this is just some FUD/manipulation. Things will get back to normal soon. We'll see how it plays out.



10. Post 20153624 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: BillyBobZorton on July 15, 2017, 03:09:46 PM
It would be as easy as miners accepting that BIP141 is the only thing that wouldn't make the market crash like a plane on the twin towers, but their ego is too big, they are on a mission, they don't care about the price. Hardforkers are here to cause damage and take control of bitcoin no matter what happens. They will pay dearly for attempting that.

Mh, I think I disagree. They might be somewhat irrational, but not totally foolish. What's the use of being in total control of something that's worthless?

OR - Jihan Wu and all the bullshit, that's actually a cover for the Chinese government trying to crush BTC even if they have to spend good money on it. Now this is something that makes me feel uneasy, because it might be 100% rational for China to strangle bitcoin even if the result is worthless. They would significantly improve capital control, which is quite important in their agenda.



11. Post 20159627 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):

Quote from: lethos3 on July 15, 2017, 10:46:33 PM
I would be against changing algo in Monero too, even if ASICs were devised, thing is, as the protocol stands ASICs are not impossible, it just won't be as good as Bitcoin's ASICs when you compare them to CPUs and GPUs mining SHA256.

I wouldn't be against ASICs if they were available in a commoditized market, like computers or GPUs are. The problem with ASICs as they are now is that it's a seller's market.

In the market as it is now, only one firm makes and sells ASICs. The same firm, or some subsidiary, also mines. This already smells bad as they compete with the other miners (their potential clients). When that firm produces a new, more powerful model, it doesn't get on the shelves immediately: first, the firm uses it to mine while the ASIC still is way ahead of the other hardware and has a strong competitive advantage. After a while, when the competitive edge is dulled, they'll sell the machine to selected clients (not just anyone), with the understanding that the client will "behave" or be excluded from the next sale.

An alternative PoW could help keep more balance - for example, one block every 4 (or 2, or 10) must use a memory-intensive PoW. This ratio could be dynamic, there are many possible strategies that could be tested. With a memory-heavy PoW, there's a lower bound to the cost of the chip which is the RAM it requires. If the required RAM were in the 4-8 GB per processor ballpark, building ASICs wouldn't be that cheap anymore.



12. Post 20171733 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 16, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Not sold a bean and not planning to.

Who's with me? Who is strong enough?

I wish I had some fiat to buy even more.
In a few days I'm expecting to get some. I just hope the low tide lasts until then, which I doubt. I guess by Monday morning we'll be on the way up to 2300. Maybe next weekend there will be another panic wave?



13. Post 20199154 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 17, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

I see the price is starting to creep back up a little... currently $2142USD (Bitcoinaverage).

Is it just a little correction in a continuing pre-Aug1 panic, or was $1800 a double bottom (May and July) and we're on our way back up?
______

I'm grateful for having had the opportunity to buy a small amount of coin but I've still got a week to wait before I can make a larger purchase.

I didn't expect to see it bounce back up quite this quickly.

I did. I thought by the end of today we'd be back around $2300USD actually. However, apart from the overestimated re-climb rate, the prediction I posted here was quite correct (sheer luck, of course), including the under-2000 correction.

I'm in the same situation as you: must wait a few days to get some fiat, but the cheapcoinz party is over. I hope for more FUD and discounts on the next weekend, but my predictive organ is totally silent now. Well, we'll see, as usual.

P.S. I've loved Toronto. One of the most welcoming, multicultural cities I've visited. There's a good life to be lived there.



14. Post 20228799 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: bobo012 on July 19, 2017, 07:33:34 AM
I would prefer a POW change that will make useless the asics and return the mining to the gpu's and cpu's.

Is any POW algo ever truly ASIC proof?

I dont think so, i dont see POW change as a good option ( we would often need to change POW to another algorithm as ASICs come). Network hash is what secures bitcoin. Miner dominance must be resolved in some other way.
High RAM requirements wouldn't make the algo 100% ASIC proof, but they could make ASICS much, much less cost-effective. If every miner chip needs 8GB - the more the harder - a GPU installed in a normal desktop computer becomes seriously competitive. The extreme is Proof of Storage, where only memory really matters. It's possible to design a continuum of RAM vs processing power difficulties.



15. Post 20264937 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

About micgoossens's ATH guessing game
I predict August 4th

Smiley

EDIT: AUGUST 3rd, see below. (The 4th was already taken by a heavyweight.)



16. Post 20266240 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 20, 2017, 06:29:54 PM
About micgoossens's ATH guessing game
I predict August 4th


Smiley

If you do that I win and you lose since I already bet on that day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20261348#msg20261348

Oops, sorry. It is however an honor to have picked the same date as bitserve himself!

My prediction is then August 3rd!



17. Post 20267708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Slow death on July 20, 2017, 07:57:39 PM
(SNIP)
About micgoossens's ATH guessing game
I predict August 4th


Smiley

If you do that I win and you lose since I already bet on that day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20261348#msg20261348

Oops, sorry. It is however an honor to have picked the same date as bitserve himself!

My prediction is then August 3rd!


I already chose August 8, just make sure you do not change the date


Sure. I only changed the date in the first place because I was reminded it was already taken!  Grin



18. Post 20268902 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: megashira1 on July 20, 2017, 09:39:55 PM
These rallies no longer get me excited... perhaps because I don't daytrade and I don't plan on spending any of my savings anytime soon.

This does get me a bit excited though -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqT-3xN8npA

https://medium.com/@ACINQ/announcing-eclair-wallet-a8d8c136fc7e


You know what change would have avoided this entire clusterfuck?

nope , 2 years ago any HF would definitely have split the network in 2 to 3.

What's this UAHF thing I hear for August 1st?

An altcoin spinoff Viabtc and Bitmain are starting off of Bitcoin ABC , with very large bloated blocks an a % of their hashrate.
Yes , if you control your private keys on aug 1 first you can split and dump these tokens and reinvest in BTC.



So why are people not worried about this UAHF as they were with the UASF?  Huh

Because with a UASF-caused HF, serious hashrate would have gone the other ("dark") side, so the split could be long and problematic, with most hardcore hodlers on one side and lots miners on the others. On the other hand, the HF threatened by the big blockers probably won't happen, and if it does, on the dark side there will be mostly those miners alone.



19. Post 20271786 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Torque on July 21, 2017, 01:27:19 AM
Please don't tell me the fucking buggy code is orphaning every block post lock-in... nah, it doesn't make sense, it haven't even ACTIVATED yet.

Lol if this is true. FUD shit storm inbound.

Let me contribute some FUD myself.
What if they're mining a different chain, ready to uncover it when they feel it's time?

EDIT: one block mined.



20. Post 20271838 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: gentlemand on July 21, 2017, 01:30:57 AM
Let me contribute some FUD myself.
What if they're mining a different chain, ready to uncover it when they feel it's time?

Every single miner in the entire world? Wow. Looks like they've upped their cooperation. I'm firing up my Sinclair Spectrum right now.

And here's a block.

476772 indeed  Grin



21. Post 20305316 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: bones261 on July 22, 2017, 02:51:23 PM
My friends and family just roll their eyes and just figure it's an extension of my gambling problem. They are probably right. However, since I made my entry in late 2014/early 2015, this has been more fruitful than my attempts at card counting. (Didn't help that I tried to mask my card counting by accepting all of the free drinks.) They may be coming around though. My partner scolded me for using my btc to purchase a small gold bar the other day.

Hehe, it often happens that new adepts are more zealous than seasoned ones...



22. Post 20306060 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: bones261 on July 22, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
My friends and family just roll their eyes and just figure it's an extension of my gambling problem. They are probably right. However, since I made my entry in late 2014/early 2015, this has been more fruitful than my attempts at card counting. (Didn't help that I tried to mask my card counting by accepting all of the free drinks.) They may be coming around though. My partner scolded me for using my btc to purchase a small gold bar the other day.

Hehe, it often happens that new adepts are more zealous than seasoned ones...

I only wish that I had been more zealous when I started dabbling in cryptocurrencies. If I had invested only a fraction of what I was willing to risk at blackjack over the years instead of chump change, I'd be looking at 6 or 7 figures of value rather than a paltry 4 figures. The saying, "rather be safe than sorry" just does not ring true right now for me. I've been safe and now I'm sorry.  Cheesy

As a partial excuse for you, they do have a real life example/guide, while you didn't.



23. Post 20312082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Torque on July 22, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
If everyone pulls their coins off the exchanges Aug 1st, I wonder if it will reveal that some of the exchanges are running a fractional reserve, because of reported or unreported hacks.

I was thinking of the same.

Perhaps people are already pulling their coins off exchanges, and that's why the market float is getting thinner.
This.
Volumes nearly halved since yesterday and the day before. It can't be just a weekend thing can it?




24. Post 20313167 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Dafar on July 22, 2017, 10:21:56 PM
So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  
Jihan's words about this were noncommittal, along the lines of "we will use some of our hash power on our new coin..."

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If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.
I don't think we'll get rid of them anytime soon.

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What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.
Greed. It would cost them an arm and a leg.



25. Post 20321196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: r0ach on July 23, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
The fact that the ESF has not yet attempted to destroy bitcoin means one of two [three] things:  1) either bitcoin is a govt sanctioned scam, or 2)  they just haven't gotten around to destroying it yet:

;or
3) Nobody will accept a naked short bitcoin, as it not only is a naked short, but it is no easier to obtain, hold, and secure than a real Bitcoin. Paper gold, OTOH, is much easier to obtain, hold, and secure than real gold - which is why (some foolish) people accept it.

Due to the technical nature of bitcoin and the fact that most people don't even know how to work a VCR, it's a given the vast majority of the population will be using "bitcoin banks" like Coinbase or other entities and not taking delivery of their coins.  It will be even easier to short bitcoin into the ground than metals.  

Vast majority? I disagree. It's not like you need a vault to store your bitcoins. You understand they have no volume or weight, do you?

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Like I said, you don't even need naked shorts.  All you need to do is short the price below cost of production

Without naked shorts and without buying a lot of btc? Could you ELI5 how for me please? A few details wouldn't hurt.

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and force miners to turn off, which in turn further reduces the synthetic price floor through a feedback loop since cost of production is recursive based on it's own demand.

Right: cost of production depends on difficulty, which depends on mining power (cost of production), which ultimately can be traced back to demand. So some miners will shut down. We could be back to GPUs, and the network could become less secure. That is, assuming the price can be driven down without raising a massive spike before (again: ELI5 how, please).

Would this make the bitcoin network easier to take over? Sure. Would it make such an attempt practical? I doubt it.
A takeover attempt would still require substantial hashpower (uneconomical with a significantly depreciated bitcoin). If a well-engineered change of PoW is enacted, such an attempt can be made even harder.




26. Post 20326234 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 23, 2017, 01:56:48 PM
Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.

It is my opinion that a PoW change should be devised, engineered, tested and put in the code ready to activate. Activation should not involve any kind of miner support, of course. It should on the contrary assume miners will fight back.

The new PoW should have suitable tweakable parameters. Certain choices for parameter values would basically leave the PoW as it is, and other choices would be more disruptive. There should be signaling to get a feel for the available hashpower with different PoW's/parameter choices.

If the machinery works well enough, this could become the weapon that will never have to be used.



27. Post 20327054 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: fluidjax on July 23, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.

It is my opinion that a PoW change should be devised, engineered, tested and put in the code ready to activate. Activation should not involve any kind of miner support, of course. It should on the contrary assume miners will fight back.

The new PoW should have suitable tweakable parameters. Certain choices for parameter values would basically leave the PoW as it is, and other choices would be more disruptive. There should be signaling to get a feel for the available hashpower with different PoW's/parameter choices.

If the machinery works well enough, this could become the weapon that will never have to be used.

A POW change needs to be kept secret until released, this prevents pre-prepared attacks from malicious miners, and an ASIC head start.

Not necessarily. The parameters might be coefficients in a linear combination of probability/frequency distribution for several algos. Good luck designing an ASIC that can do all of them. Besides, a RAM-hungry algo makes ASICs economically nonviable. It could be one of the several algos, just to enforce mining by non-specialized hardware with a specified frequency.

By the way, wouldn't a sudden unannounced PoW change freeze BTC for days?

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LukeJr has already completed a POW change, where the hashing algorithm can be changed at the last minute. But POW change has got to be a last resort, it opens the network up to all kinds of abuse, many of the enemies have very deep pockets.  

It seems to me that the mere threat of a PoW change ready to trigger might be as effective, without being so disruptive - as long as it's only crouching. I guess it would drive an ASIC designer nuts to assess the production and stocking of several board types which would possibly lie unsold until forever.




28. Post 20329382 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: bones261 on July 23, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
I'm not sure why changing the POW algo to an Asic resistant GPU friendly algo would really stop a centralization trend. GPUs use electricity, correct? Part of the problem with the "Chinese mining cartel" is that they can get cheaper electricity. Correct? What's to prevent them from just establishing huge GPU mining farms and shutting out the little guys again? Not to mention that the bigger guys will be able to get a deal on the GPUS since they would be able to buy in huge bulk.

I gather you've been (are still?) a miner, so your opinion has weight for me.
Please help me understand.

The cheap (subsidized) electricity argument... yeah, that is probably a show-stopper Sad
However, wouldn't an assortment of algos make life harder to monopolists/producer firms by forcing some kind of specialization?
Besides, they might have GPU farms (I believe they do), but in that case they would still be competing with homespun rigs set up by people who fire their computers anyway, mining or no mining. At the moment, given the monopolist market, few independent actors have modern mining equipments able to compete. Do you think the number and power of "independent" GPU's is too small to be significant?



29. Post 20339052 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

ANALYSIS: WHY AUGUST 3rd?
(micgoossens's prediction game)

Preliminaries. (Remarks, confessions.)
Any attempts at analysis for dates so far in the future can't be based on TA in the sense of shoulders, cups and double inverted Batmans. Even if it were a full Cow-and-Shepherd (one of the longest TA patterns), it wouldn't start before July 31st. We know the thing with crypto timings: a stock market's week is worth around a crypto halfday. So the analysis must be based on purely qualitative reasoning, no graphs or stuff.

Honestly, I would have preferred to choose Aug 4th: the time frame I am picturing in my mind is one day longer than what I bet on. Well, I'll work with what I have.

The Analysis.
August 1st will be inconsequential. Y2K, if you see what I mean. However, a few weak hands could and probably will be shaken. What this means is that later, as the price starts to run up - gingerly at first - those who panic sold or missed out the discounts will queue up for more - at a, ehm, slightly higher price of course. I'm not sure about the timing after August 1st, but I liked the 4th because it's Friday. Saturday and Sunday is bull-uga party (dolphins are whales too, as we all know). However, Aug 4th was taken, so I had to settle on the 3rd. I guess the cetacea will have to drink their champagne before the weekend breaks. The timing wasn't that crystal clear in my mind anyway.

TL;DR.
Fear of Aug 1st dissipates slowly while the wounded lick their wounds. New week, new life starting on Friday Thursday.




30. Post 20360159 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: r0ach on July 24, 2017, 11:20:30 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/bitcoin-options-to-become-available-in-fall-after-cftc-approval

so what does this mean for bitcoin? is it good? bad? a disaster? are we gonna be drowned in volatility and paper bitcoin?

It means a few different options:

1)  The bankers talk about how they introduce volatility into the metals market to try and scare the general public out of them, so it might just be wild pump and dump city for craptocurrency

2)  The R3 bankers own most of the Ethereum scamtokens and likely a lesser amount of bitcoin, so they might try to weaken bitcoin while pumping the Eth scam

3)  They might just naked short everything into the ground like they do in metals to try and keep people in the dollar

4)  If there's a danger of a run on the Comex from too much fractional reserve, they might try to pump craptocurrency in order to try and trick people from buying gold and silver and redirect them back into digital scam markets instead

In other words, it's generally bad from every angle for everyone on the planet to give govt the power to control markets.

Delete #3 to begin with. No naked shorts.
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The CFTC said in a statement Monday LedgerX will be authorized to provide clearing services for fully-collateralized digital currency swaps.
(My emphasis.)



31. Post 20369365 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: r0ach on July 25, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
As opposed to the other useful idiots who hype blockchains where every transaction is traced and monitored - the ultimate Orwellian police state dream - while also helping in the banker's goal to eradicate cash from society so they can then control the remaining digital infrastructure and turn everyone into a slave instead of people just using gold and silver to defeat them?  Did you mean those other useful idiots?

Have no idea what you're babbling about brother ... bitcoin's a level playing field

A level playing field if you first purchase an ASIC from Jihan Wu, which allows Jihan Wu to build 10 ASIC of his own for each ASIC you buy from him?  This is fake news.



Amidst tons of doubtful bearsh*t, here's a grain of truth from our c*ckroach. I wouldn't use the phrase "fake news" for that anyway, since it's not news but fact/opinion.



32. Post 20369499 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 25, 2017, 09:58:18 AM
ANALYSIS: WHY AUGUST 3rd?
(micgoossens's prediction game)

(SNIP)
TL;DR.
Fear of Aug 1st dissipates slowly while the wounded lick their wounds. New week, new life starting on Friday Thursday.



Sounds Good 
Let see to 3th of August

Glad you like it  Grin



33. Post 20375044 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 25, 2017, 02:32:44 PM
Relax guys, even ViaBTC is now saying that they intend to adhere to the Segwit2x agreement:

https://www.bitcoin.com/public-service-announcement

As suspected, it was just a game theory move (a ridiculous one though) to exercise some pressure to "guarantee" the second part of the agreement (2x blocksize).

I don't even think the drop has been due to this... it's just a minor correction before propeling to new highs early August.

Are you kidding? They propped this BCC altcoin up for one purpose. As the 2X date approaches, they are going to have loads of fun switching their hashrate back and forth from Bitcoin to BCC blockchain, in an attempt to strong arm the core developers/community and FUD the shit out of the market and cause massive amounts of hysteria, fear and price volatility.

Mark my words. Roger and Jihan will be cackling with glee the whole time.

Not kidding, yet you are probabilistically right. That's why I am NOW (after Segwit passed with flying colors) in favor of the FIXED 2MB blocksize increase. It won't do any harm if done right and it will remove any standing argument for their FUD attempts. Win-Win.

Reasonable thoughts, but I am wary of any on-chain scaling solution that makes it harder to run a full node.

My position is: with segwit working, comes the Lightning Network. With the LN, many more people will want to run a full node, if only to have a LN node up. LN routes on Tor, so the more we are, the merrier. Besides, several small channels can help decentralize the LN, should any bank or similar wish to stake serious collateral to open lots of channels.

Additionally, on the LN there's a chance to collect small fees: for channel operation (they will probably be low or zero, at least at the beginning), or for LN watching, ready to issue a penalty transaction if someone tries to cheat. Stifling growth of the number of nodes at this stage seems unwise to me.



34. Post 20375200 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 25, 2017, 01:55:32 PM
I don't think I'm winning micro's ATH game.

I told you... 4 AUG.

There's no way the ATH is broken before 1 AUG has passed away. Also we needed some little correction after the recent surge from the lows of $1900-.

After Aug 1st, right. But they will hurry up to Aug 3rd  Tongue Tongue



35. Post 20437314 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: lemmyK on July 28, 2017, 12:08:14 AM
Bitcoin, like any so-called crypto currency, is the old like world scheme of Ponzi. Only in the new high-tech pack.

Want an example? You are welcome:

1. Assume that all people in the world convert half of their savings from ordinary national currencies to crypto-currencies. What does it mean? This means that the producers of crypto-currency, received half of the world's volume of national currencies - half of the total world currency bascet.
Right, the producers. You go to the factory and buy freshly produced bitcoins. The used ones are worth much less (around 50%, depending on how used up they are).

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2. After a while, the fictitious value of investments in crypto-currencies increased 4-fold (as we see in the case of Bitcoin and the mass of other crypto-currencies). What does it mean? This means that now, every person in the world, reasonably expects to receive in exchange for his crypto currency (as a return on his genius) in 4 times more volume of the national currency.

3. Let's assume that all these people, at the same time, decide to fixed their investment profit-to exchange their crypto-currencies that went up four times, (if they take profit in the form ordinary national currencies).
All of them expect to receive now 4 times more national currency than they used to, they spent on buying crypto-currencies.

QUESTION: Where does this whole currency come from? From producers or producers of crypto-currency? But they simply do not have such volumes of ordinary currency, and never were. Because, previously selling the Crypto currency, in exchange for the usual currency, the organizers and the receivers only received the initial value of the crypto currency in the usual currency. Which was at the time of the transaction only - 1/4 of the amount of currency, which is now payable to all owners of the crypto currency.
The national currency comes from national producers. It's a different factory. You go to this national factory if you want national currency.

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CONCLUSION: Bitcoin, like any so-called crypto currency, is the old world scheme of Ponzi. Where each participant can receive a gain of the investments only one way - due to those new participants who have entered this pyramid later. Kiss Cheesy
Actually, it's only that those who get to the bitcoin factory first, get to choose the best pieces. Later customers are treated worse by the producers at the bitcoin factory - they get the irregularly minted, lopsided, defective coins. However, this problem will be fixed: BIP200 already promises to deal with quality control at the factory, so no need to worry.

/s

TL;DR It's the holders, not the producers. Early adopters do have an advantage. If float (measured in USD) gets 4x, by definition it means that every holder will get 4x fiat when bartering btc against USD. Hm, as long as all holders don't want to barter on the same day: the producers of USD need a little extra time to print more if necessary.



36. Post 20518605 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: Dotto on July 31, 2017, 05:37:28 PM
Ok, I found it

-snip the countdown-

more usefull for your local time : https://www.epochconverter.com/
because of this : https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

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This BIP will be active between midnight August 1st 2017 (epoch time 1501545600)

Cool. Thanks Wink

Wouldn't it be 12:20 PM UTC?



37. Post 20519081 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: williamuk on July 31, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
(snip)

Wouldn't it be 12:20 PM UTC?

That's the time of the BCC hardfork if I'm not mistaken

Oops, that's the hardfork indeed. I mixed up.



38. Post 20520225 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 31, 2017, 07:05:59 PM
Ok let's get to the point here......is bitcoin going to drop below 2000 tomorrow or can I get on with my work without checking the ticker app on my phone every 5 seconds after 1pm GMT.
Who am I to make predictions? Well, I'll give it a shot anyway. Happen what may, as long as someone's just holding, why would they care? My bet is little will happen because of the BCH fork. Should anything actually happen, it will be a temporary disruption. BTC will probably move along just fine - some disruption happens twice a year on average.



39. Post 20541247 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 01, 2017, 04:14:25 PM
Bet CLOSED! Let the game begins...
Thank you all for supporting this game and I wish you all good luck. Let's make contact when ATH touched.
Final list:

...
31/07 Infofront Sad
01/08 Vin
02/08 Steelboy
03/08 D_eddie
04/08 Bitserve
05/08 Bikerleszno
06/08 Last of the v8s
...


My mental movie is unfolding neatly.
I think Bitserve or Bikerleszno are in for the prize. Possibly myself if things get hurried up! Smiley



40. Post 20549102 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: Ibian on August 01, 2017, 11:43:25 PM
If we get enough miners involved we can do a Bitcoin Wall Observer (BWO) fork next month.
If we do, we should at least call it bitcoin clone. Cause that's what it is.
BWOC? WOBC?
An honest name is a good start. It would be good 4 letter stuff, honestly.



41. Post 20567170 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: x2666 on August 02, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
The controlled max supply claim to fame is now obliterated. There are more than 21,000,000 tokens.

The whole premise of Bitcoin is being undermined and people are A-Okay with it, fools that they are.

The premise is max 21M tokens per chain (per coin). This is a new chain, or a new coin if you like. No violation. Value doesn't spread out magically from one chain to the next. When half of BTC holders will have exchanged their BTC for BCH, then it will be a 50/50 split. Until then, you need fresh money to add value to the new chain. I think this is quite intuitive from a macroscopic, detached point of view.



42. Post 20567232 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: bitserve on August 02, 2017, 04:13:05 PM
This Shitcoin Cash experiment teaches that Bitcoin should have a difficulty adjustment enhacement. It might prove usefull in the future.

It might be dangerous, too. It would make it quicker, then easier to orchestrate a 51% attack by swinging the difficulty wildly, progressively retiring miners from BTC and then coming back on full force at attack time. This could be prepared and deployed when the hashrate is dropping for other reasons (some other problem on the BTC network).



43. Post 20567617 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: AMIANORPHANEDBLOCK on August 02, 2017, 04:20:23 PM
That's a good explanation. But what happens if 51% of hashpower want bigger blocks but Core Developers refuse?

The way I see it - oversimplified without a doubt:

The miners are employees. You pay them mining rewards and transaction fees to run the system the way you want it to be run. ("Please, tidy up the kitchen, will you? Ah, good, here's money for your good service. Thanks.")

The day they start having different objectives and incentives, what happens is

"Please, tidy up the kitchen, will you?" (Abide by my rules and I'll take your blocks for good.)

"No, I'm going to do the bedroom. The kitches is a remnant from an era when people used to cook for themselves. Now it's catering all over. Bedroom." (I make the rules, I'm the miner.)

"I won't pay you for the bedroom." (I won't accept your blocks as valid.)

"Do bedroom. Do bedroom." (Fork.)




44. Post 20567685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
When half of BTC holders will have exchanged their BTC for BCH, then it will be a 50/50 split. Until then, you need fresh money to add value to the new chain. I think this is quite intuitive from a macroscopic, detached point of view.

Sounds like you are saying that there is currently something other than the 50/50 split.

Can you elaborate more on "half of BTC holders will have exchanged their BTC for BCH"?   

When I say 50/50, I mean value wise. So I actually meant "half of the BTCs have been traded for BCH".
At the moment, the number of extant BTC=BCH.
But the value? They can say 500$/BCH all they want, but as long as I won't (or can't!) get 500$ for each of my BCH, it's just talk. Words are wind.



45. Post 20567904 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
"Please, tidy up the kitchen, will you?" (Abide by my rules and I'll take your blocks for good.)

"No, I'm going to do the bedroom. The kitches is a remnant from an era when people used to cook for themselves. Now it's catering all over. Bedroom." (I make the rules, I'm the miner.)


Sounds like you are saying that users (other than the miners) have any say in what blocks get accepted, and what blocks get rejected.


Nodes do. Financially heavy nodes, more so.



46. Post 20567978 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: bitserve on August 02, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
This Shitcoin Cash experiment teaches that Bitcoin should have a difficulty adjustment enhacement. It might prove usefull in the future.

It might be dangerous, too. It would make it quicker, then easier to orchestrate a 51% attack by swinging the difficulty wildly, progressively retiring miners from BTC and then coming back on full force at attack time. This could be prepared and deployed when the hashrate is dropping for other reasons (some other problem on the BTC network).

Both things could be dangerous but, at the very least, it requires some consideration. The adjustment algorithm could take into account some long timeouts, sorta a failsafe that should never ever activate in ideal conditions but just in case of total failure in producing new blocks for a long time.

I see where you come from and I basically agree. I think it's the same underlying motivation I feel for a variable, liquid PoW schedule that can rule out monolithic mining farms, cartels or trusts.



47. Post 20568152 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 04:49:22 PM
When I say 50/50, I mean value wise. So I actually meant "half of the BTCs have been traded for BCH".
At the moment, the number of extant BTC=BCH.


So, you are not aware that in any BTC/BCH trade, the number of both BTC and BCH stays exactly the same?

So, there is no such a thing as "half of the BTCs are traded for BCH". 


You are right. I expressed my thought sloppily.
"Half of the BTC value at the time of the split has been traded..."
Ultimately implying that the mere existence of a new chain does not mean there is actual value stored in it.



48. Post 20568282 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 05:00:06 PM
Sounds like you are saying that users (other than the miners) have any say in what blocks get accepted, and what blocks get rejected.

Nodes do. Financially heavy nodes, more so.

Your node (financially heavy? Say what?) can reject blocks and transactions however it wants, and this will have zero effect on what blocks miners create. 

Exchanges, on the other hand...



49. Post 20568616 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
You are right. I expressed my thought sloppily.
"Half of the BTC value at the time of the split has been traded..."
Ultimately implying that the mere existence of a new chain does not mean there is actual value stored in it.


Lets say that 10 million BCH have been traded in the next week, and price ends up at $5.   At this point the selling pressure will stop, and it could be a good moment to buy.  After all, all those 10 million did find somebody interested in buying them.

As for actual value,  there is no other value other than somebody willing to buy them from you, and this is true for both BTC and BCH.

Exactly. Well said. By a 50/50 split, I meant the BCH price = BTC price (fiat-wise), or BTC:BCH=1:1.



50. Post 20568884 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: becoin on August 02, 2017, 05:26:41 PM
As for actual value,  there is no other value other than somebody willing to buy them from you, and this is true for both BTC and BCH.

There is big difference! Everybody is willing to buy BTC. Only Ver and Wu are willing to buy BCH. Hope that clears your confusion.


It is also not a 0/1 matter of "will buy/won't buy". Price does matter.

I am not a BCH believer, but I would buy say, 1000 BCH for 0.01 BTC, just for the heck of it and the remote possibility of profiting off some future pump that might or might not happen. I wouldn't, on the other hand, buy BCH at the fake prices suggested by the exchanges that actually (say they) deal with BCH. I could sell some though, if it was actually possible (or easy).



51. Post 20569591 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: Dafar on August 02, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
ETH splits = combined value lower than value before split

BTC splits = combined value higher than value before split


Combined value higher? Let's wait until transfers work almost normally. Let's plug the BTC price before the split into the equation. Let's recalculate. Higher still?

I'm not defending ETH shills, by the way. Only predicting red BCH candles given a sufficiently long time frame.



52. Post 20569658 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
Exchanges, on the other hand...


Lets say there is a miner underground movement to recompile the client with 8MB block limit.  They can do it, and they don't even have to tell anyone.   However, the first ones to do it are risking it, because their big blocks will probably not end up in the longest chain. 

However, if more than 50% do it, we get a hard fork, and small block miners are forced to switch.

And, believe me, exchanges would be first ones to switch, as they have most to lose.


Yes: if all miners switch, there's only one way things can go. However, if a minority stubbornly sticks to the old chain, we have 2 chains. The exchanges will probably list both coins and let the market do the rest. Which the market is doing right now. Let's give it some time.



53. Post 20569767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: mestar on August 02, 2017, 06:09:07 PM
It currently stands at $460 BCH  / 2700 BTC at Kraken, and $720 BCH  /2700 BTC at Bitterx.   Such a high price is definitely unexpected.

Such a price isn't supported by any significant volume of trades. Only the lucky first will be able to profit from "free money". Free money can exist only for a short time, like virtual particles in quantum mechanics. Then conservation laws kick in without mercy. Give it time.



54. Post 20597946 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: podyx on August 03, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Calling 2850 tomorrow
I guess it's going to be higher than that. Likely an ATH.



55. Post 20598804 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Futures and options based on BTC coming soon. The SEC probably will change opinion on ETFs soonish.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-02/bitcoin-etf-approval-odds-are-way-analyst-says?page=1

I am confident this would cause an immediate surge in the USD price of BTC.

It's the longer term effects I am unsure of. Many say Wall Street will be able to manipulate the crypto market by naked shorting the stuff. I think an ETF backed by actual collateral can't. How about a clearing house for options and other derivatives?



56. Post 20599500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 03, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
I don't think I can handle more ETF hype and then another "sorry, no"


The ETF is still mere speculation, but futures and options should be here "real soon now."



57. Post 20601065 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 03, 2017, 10:22:20 PM
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31/07 Infofront Sad
01/08 Vin Sad
02/08 Steelboy Sad
03/08 D_eddie Sad
04/08 Bitserve
05/08 Bikerleszno
06/08 Last of the v8s
...

Who's going to be lucky mooooooon!!!

Ouch! Too early. I knew it.
It seems we're having a slow liftoff.
I think the lucky guy will have an initial B in his name Wink



58. Post 20610236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: traincarswreck on August 04, 2017, 01:21:05 AM
we're gonna see a whale jump out of the ocean.  Also someone's made an error.
I can't figure out your cryptic statement. Someone on which side? What makes you think an error was made?

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This war is going to evolve to involve fiat and nations
You mean PBoC vs. Fed? Care to elaborate?




59. Post 20610264 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: traincarswreck on August 04, 2017, 02:01:45 AM
The community doesn't realize yet it has been besieged.
I think most people involved in BTC (the community) do realize this is an attack. I, for one, do.
A siege, though, is not a generic attack. It involves being starved by the enemy outside, which can't happen as long as we keep our provisions (BTC) - that is, if we don't trade BTC for BCH.

I am convinced that the value of BCH will vanish soon, unless it is artificially (and expensively) pumped from the BCH side. Which they are welcome to do, as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to trade my BCH back into BTC if I see steady rates in the order of 0.3-0.5 BCH/BTC.



60. Post 20610455 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: HanvanBitcoin on August 04, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
The community doesn't realize yet it has been besieged.
I think most people involved in BTC (the community) do realize this is an attack. I, for one, do.
A siege, though, is not a generic attack. It involves being starved by the enemy outside, which can't happen as long as we keep our provisions (BTC) - that is, if we don't trade BTC for BCH.

I am convinced that the value of BCH will vanish soon, unless it is artificially (and expensively) pumped from the BCH side. Which they are welcome to do, as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to trade my BCH back into BTC if I see steady rates in the order of 0.3-0.5 BCH/BTC.

I dont expect it to come back to 0.3-0.5 rate ever. Upcoming days BCH will drop in value drasticly. At the moment of speaking BCH is already down to 275 Euro on Kraken.

Get a decent price for em while you still can....

Thanks for your suggestion, HanvanBitcoin. I see what you mean and it's reasonable.

However, I've thought a bit about it. I need to set up an account and move all my coins to new addresses before I can actually sell. For the time being, I like to consider my hedl BCH as an insurance on the unlikely black swan of BTC losing value as the real chain. And I'm waiting for a possible pump in November. Deferred rewards and all that.




61. Post 20613448 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: bitserve on August 04, 2017, 12:32:20 PM
It's not BCash, it's Bitcoin Cash.

You big blockers can call your abortion fork coin whatever you want to call it.

We "Bitcoiners" will refer to it as BCash. Or shitcoin clone. Whichever.

I think Bash sounds good.

Or even "Ash", after some price movement eventually makes short work of it.



62. Post 20613766 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: notme on August 04, 2017, 12:44:41 PM
It's not BCash, it's Bitcoin Cash.

You big blockers can call your abortion fork coin whatever you want to call it.

We "Bitcoiners" will refer to it as BCash. Or shitcoin clone. Whichever.

Pride cometh before the fall.  I'm betting on both horses (by doing nothing), so I'm covered either way.  BTC is worth the same as before the fork, so why be greedy and dump BCH?  If you haven't dumped it, the only reason to bash it is because you're afraid of it.

I haven't dumped it. I'm covered either way. I'm not afraid. I'm annoyed by the power struggles of evil Dr.Sumthings around the world that want to impose their will to a whole community, with the likely hope of being able to manipulate the rules at will once they're in control. The evil Dr.Sumthing always fails in the end, as we all know from uncountable James Bond movies. That's why I'm not afraid.

TL;DR: Not afraid, but pissed off.



63. Post 20619615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: cashodler on August 04, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
Segwit clears out the mempool? Trust me, most people don't even know what mempool is. Anyway, we'll hit the new ATH soon, but then BTC will crash hard, because of Bitcoin Cash, you'll see, everything's getting ready for a takeover.

Bye bye.



64. Post 20636675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: bikerleszno on August 05, 2017, 08:33:28 AM
Bet CLOSED! Let the game begins...
Thank you all for supporting this game and I wish you all good luck. Let's make contact when ATH touched.
Final list:
20/07 Siggy Sad
21/07 Mr Frog Sad
22/07 Protokol Sad
23/07 Bitcoinaire Sad
24/07 Lost_in_base Sad
25/07 rjclarke2000 Sad
26/07 Globbo Sad
27/07 Poolminor Sad
28/07 TeeBone Sad
29/07 Ted E. Bear Sad
30/07 bahty Sad
31/07 Infofront Sad
01/08 Vin Sad
02/08 Steelboy Sad
03/08 D_eddie Sad
04/08 Bitserve Sad
05/08 Bikerleszno Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
06/08 Last of the v8s
07/08 Pajulapoiss
08/08 Imbatman
09/08 Mikenz
10/08 Machasm
11/08 Aesma
12/08 doc12
13/08 Fluidjax
14/08 ShroomsKit_Disgrace
15/08 Fragout ---- slow death
16/08 Orpington
17/08 sirazimuth
18/08 Ivomm
19/08 Elwar
20/08 Oblox
21/08 Haciendo
22/08 Boba
23/08 ErisDiscordia
24/08 Ludwig Von
25/08 Hazukison
26/08 SportbetMaster
27/08 Nanobtc
28/08 Vamos1
29/08 Paashaas
30/08 RayX12
31/08 BinaryReign
02/09 Patrisorvieto
05/09 Entons
06/09 Oinas
09/09 Edgar
11/09 Buwaytress
15/09 MinermanNC
17/09 Spaceman_spiff
21/09 undeadbitcoiner
01/10 K.Ehleyr
02/10 Petemoss2
04/10 Herman Hesse
13/10 Cryptoqueen
05/11 Chainsaw
21/11 Icygreen
12/12 Kurious
23/12 Fractaluniverse
14/01/2018 In the silence
05/02/2018 savetherainforest

ATH HIT !!! bikerleszo HIT the day so today i Will send him .25 BTC for the correct day Just contact me from here
I think you only add A date not A reason why if i'am correct so if you didn't put A reason why before Its only .25 BTC AND i Will send the other .25 BTC to d_eddie Just because of the Very Good explanation of why the big price raise

Small vote after payment if you Guy would like another ride like this on maybe  price guess + 4000$$ or something
But first payday than we look further
Greets and Good morning Smiley

Hello,
Yeah I am winner Smiley Frist time ever I won something.
Please send me btc to this address : 1LyuHFHQQuGt6hLjsW8FN4VkiBC6nbCTQD

YEAHHH!!! Winning for a good explanation is even more satisfying than getting the date right!! (Which I thought would be yesterday rather than today.)
Thank you micgoossens!

EDIT: Oops, further down the thread I've seen bikerleszno got the explanation reward, too. Nevermind. It's been a lot of fun Smiley



65. Post 20641538 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 05, 2017, 10:01:56 AM
If you don't mind I'd like to ask you all a few serious questions.

1. When is "moon" for you guys? Everyone has their own "moon" value.

2. When your "moon" figure has been achieved how will you sell a large amount of coins or will you always keep bitcoin?

3. Will you always keep a portion of your stash and never convert to fiat?

Thanks and happy ATH friends.

1. Around 15K USD.

2. I'll sell just enough to get even with all the fiat I poured into BTC.

3. You bet.



66. Post 20643184 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: Skol600ml on August 05, 2017, 04:33:24 PM

Why is ppl here so obsessed with that unknown milf?  Huh
Posting a different pair of boobs for each special event would be appreciated.

Salma Hayek isn't an unknown milf.

Conspirosphere, you are disappointing me. Salma Hayek... tut tut.



67. Post 20644841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 05, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
Give this man a lot of trust rating!
haha thanks just one of the guys that keeps his word Smiley

Yes. "Just" that. I also received the award because of my explanation Smiley Smiley Smiley
YOOHOOOOHOHOHOHOHOOOO!!  Cheesy

I don't think I'm in a position to rate trust yet. Or am I?



68. Post 20689036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: aesma on August 07, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-nvidia-advanced-micro-devices-hedge-funds-2017-8

This article writer seems to suggest that Bitcoin mining rigs have chips in them from nVidia and AMD.

Is that true? I thought Chinese mining ASIC rigs had something else.

No it's wrong. I don't think BTC was ever mined using GPUs.

LTC however yes, and ETC/ETH.

The ETH bubble until June cause a shortage of GPUs and helped both AMD and nvidia financially.

BTC indeed used to be mined with GPUs. And CPUs before that.



69. Post 20689785 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: oda.krell on August 07, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
I feel old.

Come on, that's just "experienced" isn't it? Wink



70. Post 20691930 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 07, 2017, 04:15:26 PM
Meanwhile, Altcash has crept up to $270USD. Excellent news for those of us who continue to hold both currencies.

Hodling that alt thing is for pussies, and bordering treason. I would call it Judascoin.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist!
D'oh. Of course you do.
Sorry, ehm.



71. Post 20700578 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: empowering on August 07, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
BCH Update

There have been 223 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(784 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 791.72MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 55% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

And I suppose this estimate doesn't even take ASICboost into account?




72. Post 20710740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

Quote from: gentlemand on August 08, 2017, 10:27:19 AM
So what's the consensus (do you see what I did there?) on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6sbacg/bitcoin_core_0150_will_automatically_disconnect/

Core nodes don't want to play with 2X ones.

The way I see it, this update protects plain (segwit) nodes from being cut off from their network if they have their peers.dat stuffed up with 2x nodes at the time of the fork. It also means 2x nodes should be doing more or less the same if they want to be sure to have "useful" peers ready when the time comes.

Don't know why Garzik is putting on such a racket about that.



73. Post 20727253 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: AMIANORPHANEDBLOCK on August 09, 2017, 12:18:35 AM
$4.5T in unfunded liabilities is already gone and can't be paid.

More like $107 trillion.
http://usdebtclock.org/
And that's just the USA.

Sad thing is we're falling into the same trap with segwit and off-chain scaling. Right back into the bankers hands. There'll be barely a hickup during the transition to a "Bitcoin"-based economy. What a joke.

What do you mean, same trap? Can you explain? Fractional reserve is impossible with LN, and anyone can set up a channel by locking the collateral. Seems like a fresh start.



74. Post 20734927 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: AMIANORPHANEDBLOCK on August 09, 2017, 12:44:16 AM
$4.5T in unfunded liabilities is already gone and can't be paid.

More like $107 trillion.
http://usdebtclock.org/
And that's just the USA.

Sad thing is we're falling into the same trap with segwit and off-chain scaling. Right back into the bankers hands. There'll be barely a hickup during the transition to a "Bitcoin"-based economy. What a joke.

What do you mean, same trap? Can you explain? Fractional reserve is impossible with LN, and anyone can set up a channel by locking the collateral. Seems like a fresh start.

We're being herded back into communal pools. The Bitcoin blockchain allows individuals to remain independent. Segwit and second layers are like taps that will funnel off power away from the blockchain.
Ah, I see what you mean now.

Indeed, the second layer solutions we have today are akin to dealing with a bank: "I keep the books, that's to you, this I keep" and so on. These solutions are mostly used by exchanges (banks in their own way) after all. LN itself, however, is technically egalitarian in a way similar to bitcoin. Wanna open that channel? Lock 0.05 btc, ok, channel open. You can't transact more than those 0.05 on that channel. This is all I meant when I said fractional reserve is impossible.



75. Post 20735540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 09, 2017, 02:38:39 AM
Fractional reserve is impossible with LN

Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahahahahaha!

You've obviously thought through how the system will naturally evolve.

I haven't yet. Waiting for my crystal ball to get back repaired from the factory. It never worked as advertised.

However, I have read through how LN works technically. You can't open a channel that's not backed up by hard cash (btc). No promissory notes or other IOUs. You got the btc, you can open the channel - minnow or whale makes no difference. As for future natural evolution, only time will tell. Do you have a forecast to offer?



76. Post 20735613 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: ghandi on August 09, 2017, 08:59:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep4HtGgOdjw
This time bitcoin will split in two. No one can force core nodes to accept 2x part, no matter what miners do. For the price of BTC this is bad of course. The last pump was glorious indeed, but it still is a pump, not a real slow progression in price caused by an increased demand. Not at all! Chinese miners exploited the lack of sell walls in Saturday to pump it to 3K hoping the traders will continue the rise to 4K and then they will sell everything down to 2K again. This time I will cash out and wait until the end of the storm.  Wink

Indeed i'm surprised that this Pullrequest hasn't got more attention. Disconnecting from SegWit2x Nodes doesn't sound good to me...  Undecided

I don't think it's so bad as it looks on paper. SegWit2x is who SegWit2x does. What's the use of staying connected with incompatible nodes that propagate blocks of the wrong size and might shield you from useful, compatible peers? The same could be said on either side - normal nodes and SegWit2x nodes.



77. Post 20771542 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Torque on August 10, 2017, 03:59:10 PM
However, the hostility that you mention comes from the fact that the promoters/camps of these alternate implementations are still trying to proclaim that they are THE ONE AND TRUE Bitcoin, when clearly they are not. Not by longest chain. Not by most popular support from users, merchants, brokers, and exchanges. Not by most mining support. Not by most hashrate. Not by any measure whatsoever.

So the hostility is aimed at their misguided promoters, not at the implementations themselves.
In other words, the forkers want to take control of the rules but keep the name (and value - that is, users, and market cap) of something that was built without them, in a different way, with different expectations: namely, that no single entity of trust of a few entities could take control.

The problem I have with this is that the present coven has only one objective in mind: the maximization of short-term miner profit. If this is good for the hodlers, the casual users, or other investors, is immaterial in their agenda.

An example: in due time, they could figure out that a hard cap on inflation (the "21 million" ceiling) isn't really necessary to maximize their SHORT TERM profit. They can sell the block reward before the inflation is "felt" elsewhere, or before it is fully felt anyway. Which means an increase in profit: the full reward, or the part of it that hasn't yet been discounted by the market as inflation.

Another example: censoring or reversing transactions that they don't like. When mining is really centralized, and miners make the rules, that's entirely possible. Therefore, by Murphy's Law, it will happen sooner or later. You want to send btc to some Chinese colleague of Assange's or whatever? You can't. You want to order a 1M$ mining rig from that rival of mine? Sorry, the transaction will never make it to one of my blocks.

I guess I could figure out better examples, but I hope you get the point. That would be the end of bitcoin as we know it.

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I.E., - quit forking Bitcoin just to make a political statement or to gain more centralized control. It won't work.
Amen.



78. Post 20778281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: jojo69 on August 10, 2017, 08:17:12 PM
on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

People who have a clue about the actual consequences, I'd say.

I can't speak for K~Ehleyr, but I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain". So did some geographical/economical minorities (notably Scotland). The bulk of "Leave" voters were working class folk, afraid because they're losing their jobs to Polish plumbers. They have been lied to, their fears exploited cynically. Now these people see that the foreign plumber isn't going away anyway, but the City workers who used to be their customers at lunchtime or when their expensive shirts needed washing are going away if the government isn't able to negotiate merciful terms. And things look like the they won't be able to.

This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that.



79. Post 20778660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 10, 2017, 10:06:04 PM
This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that.

Either you're a shill or you're a fool. There Is No Alternative.


I must be a fool, then.



80. Post 20780715 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: empowering on August 11, 2017, 12:38:59 AM
on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

People who have a clue about the actual consequences, I'd say.

I can't speak for K~Ehleyr, but I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain". So did some geographical/economical minorities (notably Scotland). The bulk of "Leave" voters were working class folk, afraid because they're losing their jobs to Polish plumbers. They have been lied to, their fears exploited cynically. Now these people see that the foreign plumber isn't going away anyway, but the City workers who used to be their customers at lunchtime or when their expensive shirts needed washing are going away if the government isn't able to negotiate merciful terms. And things look like the they won't be able to.

This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that.

Nonsense.

Sorry but utter utter shyte

No need to be sorry for disagreeing.
Some more elaborated arguing wouldn't hurt, though.



81. Post 20780745 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 11, 2017, 12:37:54 AM
Thai justice is brutal. Who wants to be that snowbird sitting in a Thai jail for smoking a joint or calling the king a cock. Land of smiles, indeed.

Maybe we should start a new thread about:
-Where you can live large on the cheap
-saying whatever you want
-smoke whatever you want
I think that bitcoin gentlemen would appreciate.

Sounds like paradise. Cheesy
I want to move to a place like that as soon as we get closer to the moon!
I've got a friend who built a kind of residential community in Jamaica, she says it's almost like this - at least in the community village. I actually doubt it's all honey roses, though. Maybe I should ask her for more details.



82. Post 20791628 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Now, that's an articulated argument!  Smiley
I'm cutting stuff to avoid walls of text.

Quote from: empowering on August 11, 2017, 10:41:00 AM
On the other hand of the people I know that publically admitted to voting "Leave"  are mostly farmers, engineers, doctors, nurses, armed forces,designers ,tree surgeons, builders,  people in the financial industry SME owners.... people with a more critical bent- and sure some are older- and more experienced, and actually have seen the rise  and fall of the EU and remember life before it - not all- taking age out of it - in my experience the people I have met or known have rarely been racist, are quite well informed  and financially literate, generally are self employed - well travelled, hard working intelligent people with analytical minds.

Now- I know this is anecdotal - and me and the group of people  I know and have met/are a small sample group- on the other hand - I have been talking to people about Europe and the EU  for about 20 years now - and not just in the UK - my family are from  and live all over Europe-  and I spend a lot of time in many parts of Europe talking to many Europeans, and have seen and heard the consequences in many countries for BETTER and for WORSE- and that has been my experience to be frank- the young urban "educated" group of people you refer to are in my experience the EXACT group of people that only gave a damn about Europe when the Brexit media machine started... then they all had expert opinions.
I can partially confirm your anecdotal reports. A good friend of mine, Englishman, married and living in southern EU, didn't vote because of logistics. That would have been Stay. His family back in England - constructors and engineers - voted Leave. They match your general descriptions. However, they are already regretting it.

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I just do not believe in the trade bloc- I think it is ill conceived,poorly structured,over bureaucratic,low on accomplishments, and shockingly financially inept and irresponsible and as a financial experiment, that I have watched unwind over the past 20 years - I think it is a failure. Financially  speaking the union is already dead in all but name- there is NO way the union can survive without MASSIVE debt restructuring and right offs and essentially making a joke of the "governance" that has poured from it the past decade.
The trade bloc has pros and cons. I agree there's a significant admission price, but there's the advantage of running financial (and fintech!) services from London without additional costs. There's the advantage of selling UK-produced goods without trade barriers. It's a tradeoff, as usual. I happen to think the tradeoff would have a positive balance for the average UK guy had they Stay-ed.

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BUT what I don't give a hoot about- a failed, and long time failing European trade bloc, that is bankrupt, and making decisions that frankly do not help the people of EUROPE...
The EU is indeed full of problems. Some of these problems will be hard to solve, or won't be solved at all. But there is good and bad in the EU. I'm trying to weigh one against the other.

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Also please ask a  German or a Norwegian, or any of the fiscally restrained , tax paying countries if they are happy being in a trade block with their southern neighbours...
Don't know about Norway, but Germany took swift advantage of the EU when the Union wasn't so fiscally restrained. They snatched the opportunity to fix systemically large banks and basically spread the bill to the whole EU. It's only after this (legitimate given the rules at the time) financial laundry that they started to cry for rigorous monetary policies. Personally, I would welcome some more rigour. I think the 2% target on "inflation" (actually only on the CPI, which is not a true representation of inflation) is a scam - against fixed income workers at first, and against everybody else on the long run.

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pps-  Back on topic  for me -  I don't know why I waded into this TBH

Maybe because you care?  Wink

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I regret it already- frankly not the time nor the energy nor the inclination to go on about Europe any further.
On the contrary, I think we had a good and civil discussion. It can't be bad.



83. Post 20818499 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Gdax prices still way above the rest. What do you think the matter is?



84. Post 20837653 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 AM
Made 100 bucks playing music.

Guitar?



85. Post 20892565 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: YamashitaRen on August 15, 2017, 10:49:44 AM
people never learn ... obvious weak hands style dump (+ stop loss orders wipeout) and people in here already posting bullshits about dropping to sub 4000k

it's small correction, use it for your good or close charts and live Cheesy
May you be right  Lips sealed
Hoping for 3500, as I just got hold on some extra fiat that could be put to good use!



86. Post 20892783 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: becoin on August 15, 2017, 10:59:18 AM
Who sold at the bottom?

I sold.
My house so I can get moar cheep corn!!
 Grin Tongue Tongue Tongue



87. Post 20968746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 17, 2017, 08:52:06 PM

GOOD i Still have lots to sell 😄

I do too, but I think it would be nicer to wait for possible November turbolence before converting it all into BTC.



88. Post 20998736 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

I don't think panic about BCH is justified. My idea is that a few factors are at work.

Some bad guys are rehearsing the big pump&dump that will take place with the 2x fork.

The miners are rehearsing touch&go. It is mildly profitable at the moment, while BCH price is being kept high.

I think this situation can't go on much longer. BCH doesn't have hodler culture. My guess is most holders of BCH are just people that got a windfall and are either being lazy, prudent, greedy or all of the above. If I could sell my BCH at 0.50 BTC, without the hassle of swiping all my addresses first, with a reliable BCH client happy to do the splitting job for me, my finger would be on the sell trigger.

Putting real fiat or - god forbid! - BTC into BCH? No way. New money's coming into BTC already, more is due soon. I don't think they'll be eager to flood BCH with fresh money.

Wait and see is just the course of least resistance for me.



89. Post 20998780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 18, 2017, 11:46:51 PM
A civilized country is an oxymoron. We're all savages.

Basically agreed, but it's not a 0/1 thing. There are varying degrees civilization for different aspects of civilization.



90. Post 21008819 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: AlexGR on August 19, 2017, 09:41:10 AM
I would call it "orchestrated accumulation of coins". The accumulator is even leaving the market to dip so he can get the order books to his liking before proceeding to buy. I don't know who he is / who they are, but they do have pretty deep pockets Tongue
Isn't it obvious that it is Roger Ver and his buddies manipulating the market? South Korea anyone? Cheesy

You can't buy bitcoins with bitcoins (because that's what ver has). You need cash. Billions. Lots of billions. And billionaires (or funds) have that sort of cash to take the market from 1k->2k->3k->4k->5k, etc.


Neatly stated! This is what I meant in my previous post where I mentioned fresh money going to enter the system. That money isn't going to be Ver&co.



91. Post 21009696 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: BlackFlag on August 19, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
isn´t it a problem that there are miners hasing at 90% of the BCH network??
what about the 51% attacks which we have feared in the BTC past?

The 90% of mining is probably the miner who would 51% Bitcoin if they had the chance so they're not going to 51% themselves.

but then that miner can manipulate the BCH-system?

That miner probably co-owns it!  Wink



92. Post 21026023 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 19, 2017, 11:38:34 PM
Done trading BCH for today Grin Thank you Ver and Jihan! Grin I managed to increase my total BTC stash by 32% today. Cool

Trading BCH is very dangerous! Sooner or later all BCH traders will become bagholders. Best course of action is to sell all BCH you have, buy BTC, and have a good long holiday for the next 2 months when B2X fork will give you new portion of free money.


you suggest to sell all of BCH allready not keep any ?

Of course. Current BCH price is a bluff. It is simply unsustainable. Ver Wu will run out of bitcoins in just couple of weeks. Ver is a nomad but I feel sorry for all people that work for Wu. They will have to look for new job soon.


Good i'm selling out ....... its Still Nice the Free money ....
Putting my money where my mouth is. I decided to sell too. $800 was too inviting. It's already down to $695 though...  Sad
The procedure is a bit inconvenient. I split the coins and now I sent a couple transactions to Kraken. They want 20 (yes, TWENTY) confirmations on the BCH before you can trade. Besides, Kraken is really acting like it's swimming in molasses. Someone here suggested it's the bad BCH guys trying to slow down the selloff.

Whatever it is, I'm afraid it will be down to $300 by that time. Hm, maybe I can wait it out and hope for another BCH pump/BTC dump by Ver&co.



93. Post 21038130 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on August 20, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
..  Right after BTCE is seized, I now have some FBI tard on my account shilling for bitcoincash and tethers.
Interesting theory. but sounds pretty paranoic Smiley why would fbi need your account for that

If I were FBI, I wouldn't throw away an old bitcointalk account anyway. Not that it means it's really the feds, eh.



94. Post 21043204 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

I only managed to sell a precious few BCH at 0.1956 BTC/BCH (about $790/BCH) :-(
Come on bad guys, come on! PUMP IT to $1200!!! It will be good for you!  Tongue Tongue



95. Post 21064625 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: empowering on August 21, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
BCH Update

Blockchain Overview
There have been 1971 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(968 blocks behind the original chain)

The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 7% of the original chain's difficulty.

The original chain has grown 2.51GB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 83.8% more profitable to mine on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

Current price: $645

BI.Tch  has dropped its knickers and is flashing its bits  at the world.....


Do you think Jihan&Ver will keep pushing the BCH price up when the difficulty there skyrockets, so that miners keep on mining? I was so slow to sell and I'm losing BTC every day!



96. Post 21070013 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: podyx on August 21, 2017, 01:42:40 PM
Probably gonna see a dip to 3.5k-3.7k
I really hope so. Likely targets? I'm guessing somewhere around the high 37xx's.

Been waiting for a sub-3900 dip for so long now!
I'm ready to:
1) BTFD
2) BTFD with BCH (if it stays where it is fiat-wise, and pulls up the BCH/BTC ratio)
3) BTFD

And, of course - nearly forgot to mention it - BTFD. That's obvious.



97. Post 21073307 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on August 21, 2017, 02:43:25 PM
Hashrate drop, too ... this monday.

(SNIP)
Can you please ask her if she's planning to show us some boobage when BTC price starts rising again?



98. Post 21075790 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

I am not a BCH supporter, either. Just an accidental holder like many of us. I think the analysis by fluidjax has merit.
Can any of you keen minds see any flaw in it? I tried to find weak spots, but I didn't manage to uncover much.

Quote from: fluidjax on August 21, 2017, 05:07:55 PM
Just so I'm not accused of shilling for BCH, I'd prefer if BCH just died now...but Just a train of thought....

Segwit2X is designed to fail (Garzic is not even implementing Replay Protection) which will ensure Core supporters dislike it, and they can spread there ideas easily to those who are on the fence.
This seems spot-on. A serious attempt would have included replay protection by default, from the start.

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These little pumps in the BCH price are designed to shake out the core supporting BTC holders. They will play with the price until November enticing us to sell in various ways.

Then November comes, Segwit2X fails, Jihan switches to BCH and then the real push starts.
BTC is left with 10-20% of hash power and stalls for a few weeks/months until the difficulty re-calc.

No-body is left to hold back the BCH price and it is pushed dramatically upwards to try and create a viable alternative, Main stream media is saturated with anti BTC articles. BCH announce a bunch of partnerships and deals.
The idea seems plausible enough, but size does matter. In other words, some quantitative analysis might be useful here (back of the envelope would do). How much does it cost in USD to prop the price up by x USD? How much in BTC to prop up by y BTC? How much has been spent already approximately? Which price level would be a reasonable bait (as seen from the fisher's point of view - that is, JihanVer&co's)?

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There is more to their plan, than we have seen so far.
Maybe good to pick up some cheap BCH over the next few months to help kill it later.
Everything that has happened so far was easily predictable in advance, this is just the opening (sacrificial) battle, in a war.
Interesting and, if guessed right, potentially concerning (mild to average worry). The thing is, from September onwards we're all waiting to usher big fresh money in via options, futures and other derivatives. Possibly the long denied ETF will make a comeback. Those guys don't want no BCH though. I think they're only going for the real thing (and possibly ether, so loved by the corporate zombies all around). This would make the fisher's job much harder, and the bait much, much, more expensive. Have you considered this?

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Perhaps I am giving them too much credit, but, I think they are playing a longer game than we currently see.
Perhaps you are. You probably are. I hope you are. At any rate, being prepared for the worst is good, so I think this idea deserves some pondering.



99. Post 21078790 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 21, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Advice on electrum please.

 Is this a good wallet to use to be middle man when creating a new paper wallet?

I.e. Moving coins from one paper wallet to a new one.

Quite good IMO.



100. Post 21078850 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 21, 2017, 06:55:13 PM
A serious attempt would have included replay protection by default, from the start.

Disagree. There was enough controversy over Bitcoin Cash such that we knew it would not have majority out of the chute*. But S2X has -- or at least had -- overwhelming support.

Overwhelming support behind closed doors. They could run their fork on a LAN in that room without a condom, no problem with that. I was talking about real transactions going around in the wild, on the - you know - Internet.



101. Post 21093305 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

Quote from: eXpl0sive on August 22, 2017, 03:23:45 AM
Great  Grin Kraken didint execute my stop loss order haha. Undecided

They just announced that they are going to disable advanced orders for a couple of months. Only standard orders can be placed now.
But in the same email they also said that standing "advanced" orders (including stop orders) would be executed. Only new ones can't be entered anymore. For what's worth...



102. Post 21225427 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 26, 2017, 03:02:34 PM
We need a proof of work change. How low do you think that will drop us?
Something less drastic could also work. Something that wouldn't fck up the "good guys" as much. I'm thinking along the lines of a coinbase penalty depending on mempool size - or something proportional to the average fee of transactions left in the mempool. The main problem I see with such a fix is that it would require a fork. Would a soft fork do? I doubt it, mainly because of the problems with non-upgraded clients.



103. Post 21231648 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: notme on August 26, 2017, 03:48:52 PM
We need a proof of work change. How low do you think that will drop us?
Something less drastic could also work. Something that wouldn't fck up the "good guys" as much. I'm thinking along the lines of a coinbase penalty depending on mempool size - or something proportional to the average fee of transactions left in the mempool. The main problem I see with such a fix is that it would require a fork. Would a soft fork do? I doubt it, mainly because of the problems with non-upgraded clients.


Won't we have to hard fork for replay protection anyway? (Total noob question.)

Such a coinbase penalty would be messing with the inflation schedule.

Of course it would, but it would be a problem only for the particular non abiding miner. All other parties would see the value of their BTC increase, even if admittedly by a tiny amount. In general, a tighter cap on programmed inflation doesn't seem to be such a big issue.

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  Also, the mempool is not consistent across nodes.  A freshly broadcast transaction may not be visible to everyone.  So, we would need mempool commitments.  Something like a blockchain could work for that Wink.
This is more serious and possibly a show stopper. Pity, because automated, mathematical retribution for spammers is every user's wet dream. I just tried my hand at the conceptual level. As someone else pointed out ("go code it, bro, or it's just fluffy talk"), there's probably little need for armchair protocol improvers.



104. Post 21231796 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: CoinCube on August 26, 2017, 07:26:30 PM

All jokes aside this is a very important study that everyone should read.

I have posted my thoughts on it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg21230736#msg21230736
Interesting read. I can't help but be reminded of Base Commander Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove.



105. Post 21293846 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 28, 2017, 09:56:54 PM
Liberation day. All my bits are out of Polo.
So who's still in BCH. Be honest Wink

Still got all my BitCHcoins.  Grin

Not sure how it will play out but I like it as a hedge


I was going to do the same thing steelboy but I went for it last week and after a lot of fucking about managed to trade all the WuVEr coin for btc. I am aware the gap may close with btc fud and a WuVer coin pump but that's not guaranteed and I managed to boost my btc by 14%-15% so I was very happy with that.

It's such a basket case of a coin. But it's set to halve 3 years before us. Selling could be a big mistake. But meh.
I still have most of my BCH. I had halfheartedly decided to sell, but then the price started to go too far down for my taste. So I only sold a little, waiting for better times. I could call it a hedge or a speculative bet. There's going to be a fork in November, and a BCH halving a fortnight after that (ok, I'm exaggerating). So who knows - maybe Jihan and Ver will repump the old shitcoin. I'll be ready.



106. Post 21314960 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: mgroenouwe on August 29, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
Look at the mempool:
https://blockchain.info/nl/charts/mempool-size

What happened?
Maybe someone stopped mining empty blocks?



107. Post 21318650 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on August 29, 2017, 04:38:19 PM
Good to see the one and only bitcoin doing so well. I just seen the most Perculier thing on bittrex  someone bought some BCH lol

https://twitter.com/sknthla/status/902559923955015681

According to that BCH now has panhandlers going out in the street. Impressive stuff.
Thats what I call a "new low"
disclaimer: I dumped my bch at .2
Grrr. You quick lucky SOB.  Angry
I'm still hoping for some pumping action later this year though ;-)  Cheesy



108. Post 21324298 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Imbatman on August 29, 2017, 06:27:51 PM
That nurse meme is not factually accurate since you can't carve a Bitcoin up into 10 decimal places, only 8....
That's 2025! They already added 6 decimal places (20 bits actually) with the GUF (great utility fork) in 2020, after the bitcoin price surged past 150k USD - roughly equivalent to 120k 2017 USD.



109. Post 21344568 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 30, 2017, 08:24:04 AM
+1

stay save with a hedge (BCH) against the future of BTC.

excuse me? BitCH would be a hedge on BTC risk? If BitCH succeeds in killing BTC, then:
1) There will be a general crash in crypto because it will be proved that they can be killed by such attacks; and
2) There are many better coins than BitCH to play with.
Draw your conclusions.

I also didn't manage to sell my BCH at a price that would make me feel good, so I'm justifying myself with a half-assed hedge argument similar to this. Conspirosphere.tk, I totally agree with your point 1). Not so much with point 2), because as altcoins go, technical soundness isn't really that relevant. It's more of a hype and deep pocket whale business IMHO. So BCH might be as good as the next alt, given the support team it has.

Besides, the half-assed hedge argument has partial merit IMO: if/when BCH mining profitably keeps dropping as it is, in order to keep the altcoin from reaching quick irrelevance, there must be pumping. So the "hedge" side of the argument can be turned into "retribution" for the schemers. I wager many long time hodlers, who at the moment can't be bothered to split/move/sell their BCH, will get their asses on the move if BCH price gets interesting enough. I for one will. I've already made a couple BTC on some BCH, and I've got sell orders for another part of my stash set up at 0.5 BTC/BCH.



110. Post 21382357 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: ivomm on August 31, 2017, 12:04:13 PM
Anyway, now is the second part of the plan. Wu is buying thousands of bitcoins to lift the prise up to a certain point he decided to go. The same traders who lost their profit before, now are like the flies going to the light bubble just to get burned. At some day and hour Wu will start selling hard to bring the price incredibly low - below 3K or even lower. The illiterate traders will think that something 'bad' happened with bitcoin and lose big time (again). The only difference is that this time no one can tell what the outcome of this evil plan will be. Until markets decide which is the 'real' bitcoin, the price volatility will be huge.

If this is the way things are, I reckon Wu & co. will burn themselves more than they did with the BCH thing.
Just for starters, exchanges don't want to deal with chains without replay protection.



111. Post 21382477 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: yefi on August 31, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
Yeah, I'm back baby. My thanks to Cyrus! Smiley

If you haven't already, make sure to stake your address. Best thing you can do to protect your account.

Thanks for the tip! Just staked it.



112. Post 21408313 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 01, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
It's very silly that the SEC has inadvertently created an even more volatile offshoot of Bitcoin.

Inadvertently?



113. Post 21410316 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: empowering on September 01, 2017, 11:23:26 AM
Ok I've missed out on a lot of this increase. Just got back from hospital with our newborn baby boy. Shattered and on top of the world but also what makes it even better is a nice btc price!!

Now sleep.

Congratulations to the three of you!!

Good luck with the sleep... its a very difficult time to sleep..

(when BTC is knocking on new ATHs I mean  Grin)

Difficult time to sleep with all the new ATHs indeed, and the newborn won't help a bit in that department. On the other hand, some positive thinking is in order. You will be able to check the price more often when it's your turn to wake up at night.

Congrats indeed, daddy!   Cheesy



114. Post 21419137 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 01, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
Aaarghhh what the hell bitcoin cash!!! Why are you going up? Any News? not like Bitcoin is going down... are stoopid banksters and friends confusing the two?

They are just making me extra rich both together  Grin
Is BCH really going up? In real terms (I mean, price relative to BTC), it looks more like sideways to me.



115. Post 21420699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 01, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
.....yes darling?

Sorry.. I thought my girlfriend was calling me



I like your girlfriend. Not booby enough for next ATH, though. Pity.
On second thought, is full nudity OK in this thread?



116. Post 21424739 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on September 01, 2017, 10:36:29 PM
How the heck is RogerCoin up ?!
It isn't, actually. It's still in the 0.120-0.135 BTC range, as yesterday and the day before.



117. Post 21442993 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: bones261 on September 02, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
Did Jimbo sleep in and lose another buying opportunity?
No way. I'm betting he's soon going to post about buying at a good price with extra-good commission!  Wink



118. Post 21443029 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on September 02, 2017, 03:07:44 PM
Goldman Sachs dump started already? Or just a small correction from 4970 to 4600?

Correction in my opinion, you've been around long enough to know that retraces always follow significant upwards price surges. 

Yeah but seems like some people use the GS prediction to start panic selling. Could probably drop to 3.5 this time. Sad that those big players came into the game. Now they have controll over the price of bitcoin with simple predictions.
As time goes on, I think there will be fewer and fewer weak hands and more hardcore hodlers. It will get harder and harder to shake the tree for falling fruit.



119. Post 21465817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on September 03, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
Maybe you're too young to remember that there was a prohibition of exporting pgp tech out of the US, until it was abolished after it leaked anyway.
I do remember that. Crypto was treated as a weapon, so code couldn't be exported. But books could, so there were chapters full of code printed in OCR-friendly fonts.

It's hard to ban ideas.



120. Post 21470435 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Buying dips as well. It feels like some bearwhale playing dumpy dumpy on low liquidity. Shaking the tree while banks are closed for the long weekend.

Jimbo must be tired of walking back and forth by now... Cheesy



121. Post 21507887 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: empowering on September 04, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
ICOS that are rip offs-  are rip offs...

What about ones that are not?

No one needs 100 million to start a company that has no legs...
My thoughts exactly. So, where are the ones that are not? To my naive mind, ICOs look like a way to rake money without getting one's company ownership swayed as it would be with VC. I'm glad they're being regulated. Want capital? Gimme stocks, so I own (at least part of) what I paid you, so I can vote if I paid enough. You give me these sumthincoins and if (when) value goes to zero, we're good? Meaning YOU're good and I'm out of luck? No way.

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The free market would have gotten there on its own- personally I would have liked to have seen it -I am sick that way.... but no! the regulators will step in (In China- USA and Europe) and regulate these ICOS
The market was being too slow for the taste of those in power. And for once I agree!

Most of these ICO spewing companies don't even need to use blockchain technology for their operation. It's just a way around the SEC or other similar institutions.

Sorry for the rant, nothing personal really. It's just that this thing with premined shitcoins really grinds my gears.



122. Post 21508400 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Torque on September 04, 2017, 04:43:29 PM
My thoughts exactly. So, where are the ones that are not? To my naive mind, ICOs look like a way to rake money without getting one's company ownership swayed as it would be with VC. I'm glad they're being regulated. Want capital? Gimme stocks, so I own (at least part of) what I paid you, so I can vote if I paid enough. You give me these sumthincoins and if (when) value goes to zero, we're good? Meaning YOU're good and I'm out of luck? No way.

That's a nice thought, except that you don't really own the stocks, nor part of the company. See my post here for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2098580.msg21161390#msg21161390

Uh. Some of the things you say are news to me. I don't mean I don't believe you. But... but surely if I own a certain percentage of the stock... surely I mean...  Huh I do get my say, right? Eh...? Right??  Sad (breaking into tears)... And I thought... MOMMYYYYYY!!! Bwaaa, waahh!!!  Cry



123. Post 21514201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: explorer on September 04, 2017, 08:28:54 PM
FUD seems remarkably low key, so far.  I guess there's time yet.

By the way, hasn't Roach got his account back yet?

In times such as this, we could all enjoy some explanation on the power of precious metals - and especially silver. I'm sure the correction we're seeing was orchestrated by the Joos.

 Tongue Tongue

/s - In case there's anyone with their sarcastometers in need of servicing.



124. Post 21548906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 05, 2017, 09:45:47 PM
4000USD as a resistance level has been tested, which is a very good news.

Now if segwit 2x will not be too messy, price -> moon for sure.

Worring part is >90% miner support for it, and core's tough position against it... This hardfork can be more deadly than BCC...


Miners can only mine a coin that they can sell. We have already seen many have no loyalty, they will move to the coin that will pay their electricity bills.
Who is gonna buy all the coins mined, and the all the coins dumped?
Certainly not enough to support 90% of the hash power, so the real Bitcoin will limp along to the re-calc, and then its party over for 2x.


quoting this for truth. afair difficulty can only go down so much at a time, so we may need more than one re-calc, not that that matters much

Am I wrong in thinking that an easy-to-use replay protection mechanism would make it much harder on 2x? I imagine most hardcore bitcoiners would dump the stuff as soon as possible, before it depreciates too much. The effect would make mining 2x quickly unprofitable, so Wu's bribes/threats to the miners/thralls would get too expensive to hold.

Any flaw or oversight in my argument?



125. Post 21553295 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

While we're talking about speculative articles, what do you think about this?

Dear Crypto, You’re Being Played By Wall Street
https://medium.com/@JesseLivermore/dear-crypto-youre-being-played-by-wall-street-35a1117ef859



126. Post 21634174 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Torque on September 08, 2017, 03:45:11 AM
Your forked shitcoins will never go anywhere, they are not supported by merchants.
They are not supported by the economic majority of users.
You can't buy anything with that shit.
All you can do is trade it back and forth to yourself.
More and more so as bitcoin holders slowly sell BCH for BTC when price goes up or necessity arises. I managed to sell the latest small batch at 0.155 :-)



127. Post 21634352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on September 08, 2017, 11:31:53 AM
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Bitcoin, coming up next 🚀 SegWit effect 🚀 Lightning in action 🚀 Free S2X tokens 🚀 Schnorr 🚀 MAST 🚀 ETF approval🚀 More users 🚀 ...

And many more !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1869168.0



I quickly googled signed blocks but didn't find anything interesting. Got a link explaining what they are?



128. Post 21637761 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: yrtrnc on September 08, 2017, 01:47:03 PM
Did China ban crypto again?

Of course they did.

http://finance.jrj.com.cn/tech/2017/09/08211823086220.shtml
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Google translate: "A bigger regulatory storm approaching: close to regulators on the 8th told reporters that the bit currency trading platform has become illegal economic activities, money laundering and bankers manipulate the price of loser retail channel, should be banned as soon as possible."

Someone seems to be in strong need of cheap korn.

EDIT: Apparently they actually did close a few exchanges.

https://wallstreetcn.com/live/global
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The supervisory authority has decided to close the exchange of virtual currency in China, which involves the exchange between all the virtual currency and the denomination, which is represented by "currency line", "coin net" and "Bitcoin China" The resolution has been deployed to the place.



129. Post 21637906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

@Elwar - Not sure if you caught that (I edited while you were posting or after you posted)

EDIT: Apparently they actually did close a few exchanges.

https://wallstreetcn.com/live/global
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The supervisory authority has decided to close the exchange of virtual currency in China, which involves the exchange between all the virtual currency and the denomination, which is represented by "currency line", "coin net" and "Bitcoin China" The resolution has been deployed to the place.



130. Post 21638846 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: BHSMC on September 08, 2017, 02:36:30 PM
Guys,

Does anyone have any idea why it is falling without parachute?
Fake news from China.
"Banning bitcoin"
"Closing down exchanges".

Actually, according to ZeroHedge and some Google Translate work, it appears it is a rehash of partially old news, and all they're clamping down is ICOs.

If it was true that "China really really bans bitcoin. Really this time!", people in the know would have moved in advance and we would have seen quite a different market.

TL;DR: Someone is in bad need of cheap korn, as I said before without even knowing the details.




131. Post 21690065 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: vit05 on September 10, 2017, 07:54:00 AM
Why people saying that the price should be 3800??
Fibonacci extension based reasoning.



132. Post 21700783 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: soullyG on September 10, 2017, 05:15:27 PM
So who sold at the bottom then?  Wink  Roll Eyes
I wasn't expecting this question.
Not from YOU, I mean  Wink
Waiting for the official asker to announce to the public the End of the Dip.

To answer the unofficial asker's question, I managed to increase my stash a bit, although I failed to catch the very bottom. It was too quick.



133. Post 21701049 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: bones261 on September 10, 2017, 05:23:41 PM
I don't think the 2x drama will be over. anytime soon Even if the all the pools decide to keep mining 4k WU blocks, and under; expect much sabre rattling from the big blockers as they hang the threat of mining bigger blocks over our heads. Just like they've been doing all along with BU, bitcoin classic etc etc.

Hm, I wonder what will Honey Badger's reaction be like.



134. Post 21703082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on September 10, 2017, 05:45:34 PM
Hm, I wonder what will Honey Badger's reaction be like.

"I'll take 'Doesn't Give a Fuck' for $5,000, Alex"

Hey Jack, that's 1 mid-September BTC for the gentleman there!
;-)



135. Post 21703113 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: empowering on September 10, 2017, 06:41:46 PM
x2 be dead
Care to elaborate? Any juicy news?



136. Post 21721362 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: ghandi on September 11, 2017, 11:01:07 AM
First China exchanges closing down...
http://news.8btc.com/li-xiaolai-yunbi-is-winding-down-in-3-months
Error 504.



137. Post 21722459 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: ghandi on September 11, 2017, 11:35:11 AM

https://imgur.com/a/KgmXg

But there is also a denial by yunbi:
https://yunbi.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/115000143741-关于暂停交易的公告 (Google Translate)

Time will tell Smiley
Thanks for the imgur link.

Situation still muddy.

My guess: it was just a wave of FUD that's being milked while still possible - that is, until the Chinese government issues another generic release about investor safety. Tighter regulations might be coming, but I don't think it's going to be an issue after the smoke curtain dissolves.

TL;DR: Hodl.



138. Post 21736363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: _javi_ on September 11, 2017, 07:53:46 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

china pumping (+9%)... easterns dumping (-2%)   Huh Huh Huh Huh
Arbitraging with China is not easy, but there are some who can. I think China has just been filling the gap.



139. Post 21739054 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: empowering on September 11, 2017, 10:09:35 PM
Touch your toes baby....  hmmm yeah..there we go

How RUDE!  Shocked




140. Post 21740336 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: empowering on September 11, 2017, 11:21:43 PM
Anyone knows when the cock is flaccid you fuck harder..
When it is sensitive you ease off...
The idea behind sex is to  make your WOMAN cum...
Stop  being so selfish.
You are a boy.
Experience and time and patience are the mark of the man...
[SNIP}

Give  me a fucking break..

I take it your woman came already. Otherwise a fucking break would be quite selfish.  Tongue Tongue



141. Post 21751817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 12, 2017, 02:31:51 AM
Feels like lift off. Everybody hand me your pants. No time to explain...
I don't understand, but since it's you who's asking - a decent guy... here they are.

I don't know about you, but I'd be wary of giving my pants to empowering. He's been a little... uh... sexually restless of late  Grin



142. Post 21756025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on September 12, 2017, 11:46:04 AM

At the risk of sounding stupid, this graph doesn't look right to me... How is it possible for EUR and GBP to be above USD?  Huh

Maybe the exchange rate is today's rate? The dollar has been slowly but steadily falling at least last month. Wild guess.



143. Post 21764881 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 12, 2017, 04:16:36 PM
Ridiculous FUD from The Guardian (UK)

Um, is there anything they've written that isn't correct? Even the crustiest tosser could take a look at the ICO scene and figure out it's almost entirely a crock of hopeless shit.


Quote from: Biro Bob on September 12, 2017, 04:07:45 PM
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The financial regulator has issued a stern warning against a speculative frenzy over initial coin offerings (ICOs) in cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin that have been promoted by celebrities including Paris Hilton.

(my bold)



144. Post 21773540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 12, 2017, 09:52:05 PM
I would like to take this moment to congratulate myself on becoming legendary today.

I have been spouting bollocks for 3+ years and pretty much none of it is of any use to anyone so well done me.

i am a mean hodling mother f**ker.



Congrats, RJ! A legend!  Cheesy



145. Post 21796386 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 13, 2017, 02:36:27 PM

So smug and so wrong. What a combo Roll Eyes

Is THIS what you did with our pants?...you bastard!
I think he was just helping us not to shit them.
As if there was any need...
Maybe we should ask Jimbo what he thinks about this correction.



146. Post 21796697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Lauda on September 13, 2017, 02:50:07 PM
Isn't it *nice* having this much vocal influence? You just open short positions, and say some nonsense FUD about Bitcoin and enjoy the profits. Unfortunately, Bitcoin as an entity itself can't fight back about those defamatory statements. Angry
Just wait until the dreadful honey badger wakes up...



147. Post 21798112 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: becoin on September 13, 2017, 03:16:40 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

Come on, calling it so early? There's still a little way to go IMO.

BTW - I didn't. I spent a ridiculous amount of my fiat that was waiting for THE dip. Some more is waiting just in case this was just a pre-dip (not so ridiculously much though).



148. Post 21798407 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 13, 2017, 03:39:07 PM
i'm thinking to , to buy some more but when ?? maybe little now and see what the price will do Huh
Yes, calling the bottom (or the top) is a pointless exercise. Better to be buying on the way down (or selling on the way up), but a little at a time and careful for quick reversals.



149. Post 21809201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Wexlike on September 13, 2017, 08:11:42 PM


wtf!

Paranoid thought: Bitmain setting things up for maximum damage when they retract miners at forking time?



150. Post 21824843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: fragout on September 14, 2017, 10:54:28 AM
Dump led by china again. News they they have that we dont have or more manipulation ?

NYT and other news sites report that regulator issued "verbal instructions" to exchanges that they have to shut down.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/09/14/world/asia/ap-as-china-bitcoin-shutdown.html

For the lazy
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BEIJING — Two Chinese business newspapers say regulators in Shanghai, the country's financial center, have ordered exchanges that trade the cyber currency bitcoin to shut down.

China Business News and 21st Century Economic Report said Thursday regulators gave verbal instructions to operators of platforms to close but gave no other details. That followed a report last week by a business news magazine, Caixin, that regulators had ordered a halt to trading.

The Chinese central bank has not responded to questions about the future of bitcoin in China but last week banned initial offerings of new cyber currencies. Central bank officials have warned that bitcoin trading could be associated with fraud.

China was one of the world's biggest markets for bitcoin but trading volume has declined as regulators tightened controls.



151. Post 21824979 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

BTCChina shutting down on Sep 30?

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/908285586368167936



152. Post 21828089 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on September 14, 2017, 12:22:42 PM
Finally someone with a brain speaking:


"Back to $200! Bear market any minute now!" ... "It's just a flesh wound! 10k by the end of the year!"

How about: the market is testing the downside after huge gains were made during the past months. And "continuation or reversal?" will be largely determined by how this test proceeds? (e.g. support will or will not be found at a level which suggests the larger bullish trend remains intact)

My question is, where do you think this support will be found? Is it already found (3600ish), is it 3200-3000 or further down?
imo, under $2k easy

I was asking people with at least half brain. but thanks.
lols fine gd luck ,hahaha...maybe it will goto $1k

ShroomsKit_Disgrace, you don't understand.
The first reply "$2k" was on FULL BRAIN!
Then you mentioned "half brain" again and the poor lad shut off half of the poor thing.
So the next answer is... unsurprisingly, half as much.
 Roll Eyes



153. Post 21828320 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: realr0ach on September 14, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
It's time to que up the avalanche of retard pumpers that know absolutely nothing about cryptocurrency to spam the boards with their cut and paste slogan "blockchain is here to stay".  Since it's not even possible to create a decentralized cryptocurrency in the first place (all are designed to centralize), nothing could be further from the truth.  

Yea, they might live on as federated chains run by corporations and govt, but who gives a shit about those.  Bitcoin died the day the first asic was created when it could no longer be mined with normal, off the shelf, commodity hardware.  There's no point screwing with this garbage over real money now (physical silver).

I missed you too.



154. Post 21834805 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on September 14, 2017, 02:56:16 PM
All the altcoins also took a big hit with AltcoinCash down to $421USD/$513CAD (Coinmarketcap).

I prefer to gauge BCH against BTC, and it almost looks like they've been pegged since over a month. A lock that seems a little artificial.



155. Post 21834946 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 14, 2017, 02:59:23 PM
I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one  with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly  (UTC time)    (closest to ATH.....)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This  Roll Eyes

I'd say November 6th.
Why: the next ATH will likely be in the 6000-6800 range. Most technical analysts (not that I am one) think it will take 4-5 weeks to recover to 5000. I am guessing there will be some consolidation/ups&downs before the previous ceiling can be broken for good, and a couple weeks more for the upward momentum to let up so the ATH is fixed. I picked the 6th because it's a Monday - a good day for ATHs.



156. Post 21841208 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: becoin on September 14, 2017, 07:04:24 PM
Who sold at the bottom?


bottom ain't in yet

I've bought at the bottom. It's already in. I'm ready for new ATH next month.


Not sure where the actual bottom is this time. For all I know (or care), OkCoin and Huobi have a meeting with the regulators tomorrow, and they might say they're closing down too. Bitcoin could have another leg down to 3000. The last squeeze of milk from this particular cow's (f)udders. Whatever.

I already bought almost more than I can afford anyway. Slight capital reallocation? Missing out? I guess I'm good anyway. The slow climb back is due very soon.



157. Post 21872042 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: ParabellumLite on September 15, 2017, 02:01:26 PM
(SNIP)
Then there's the issue of mining consortiums: how are they going to foot the bill? They will need to pay for their electricity in RMB, and China's capital controls aren't helping here. At this point, I consider it likely that one or more mining consortiums will stop operations as well, sending further shockwaves. Again: I consider it likely, there is no reason to be sure about this at all.

This might not be a problem for the miners. The government - or the local goverments under the thumb of Beijing - kept subsidizing cheap electricity for them all along. I suspect there are deals in place to allow bills and live costs to be paid via YuanTether. Don't think the government wants to throw the whole mining thing to the dogs. It's a strategic sector where China has world leadership, at least for the moment. It would be quite a dumb move. They must have thought this over. YuanTether will likely play a key role, as someone else - empowering if I'm not mistaken - said a little above. Maybe some state-sponsored ICO or cryptocurrency too. We'll see.

Quote
Last but not least: this is 2017, not 2013/2014. There is newer tech out there, and real competition as well. The crypto funds that invested in BTC are not guaranteed to keep BTC in their baskets, or at least in the same ratio. There will be funds out there that are re-evaluating what they really have in their hands right now - and they will start weighing the value of recent changes in China.

The derivatives that will debut this fall will need real BTC for clearinghouse reserve collateral. There will be futures - and maybe options too, I'm not sure on the details. They applied, they got approved. They can't fuck up by not setting up proper financial backing. I am confident they will be last call buyers. Even more: I believe they just filled their pockets on this sale and are ready to get more at a discount if/when it happens.



158. Post 21872984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on September 15, 2017, 02:30:32 PM
AltcoinCash still slipping at $409USD/$497CAD (Coinmarketcap).

And, what matters more in my opinion, the peg to bitcoin is loosening. Kraken's day range is ฿0.10114-฿0.12720, actually trending towards the minimum (฿0.11400 right now). Someone up there is getting low on cash/BTC?





159. Post 21878886 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on September 15, 2017, 09:45:23 PM
bears probably didn't have their final say yet. so be cautious  Smiley



This. I am expecting a sssllllloooowww ramp up to 5k. This leg up has been too fast.  The volume was there, sure, but I'm wary. We might be in for more dumps - even a deep, sub-3000 plunge. The tree can be shaken again, so that fruits held by weak hands may fall down.



160. Post 21898142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Just a rumor for the time being, but it's being said that Bitpay now supports BCH. I never used Bitpay myself. Reliable sources would be welcome.

If that's true, it could lead to a handsome BCH price increase - I still have over half of my rainfall... Grin



161. Post 21901200 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on September 16, 2017, 03:13:53 PM


Whoa, elephant in the front room here people ....
HSBC
Barclays Capital Sec.
Morgan Stanley
JPMorgan
Credit Suisse
Goldman Sachs
Danske Bank
all listed as participating in this swedish traded bitcoinETN!
Isn't that the big news here? Large multinational banks and
regional banks are involved in the bitcoin market!!
Not long until they allow ETFs in london and NY/SF unlesss they want
to be left as trading backwaters. Only matter of time also until they
put it on the major currency trading platforms where these guys usually play.

That's the news indeed. I'll wager an ETF is due soon on the other side of the Atlantic, too. The official reason for SEC changing their mind will probably be "now we have futures and options, so there is a proper way to stabilize reserve and clearings".



162. Post 21901289 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: realr0ach on September 16, 2017, 03:29:36 PM
Marcus promoting an Orwellian, digital only slave currency while fantasizing about a Polish jewess, it all makes sense now.

Roach, Roach... we know you're going to turn from Kafkian ungodly filth-dwelling beast to a real prince as soon as a Jewish princess agrees to kiss you!



163. Post 21901353 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 16, 2017, 03:32:42 PM
That's the news indeed. I'll wager an ETF is due soon on the other side of the Atlantic, too. The official reason for SEC changing their mind will probably be "now we have futures and options, so there is a proper way to stabilize reserve and clearings".

All they're doing is probably buying on behalf of clients through their regular platforms. They may not like it, but they do like the fees.

Hm... in my blinding optimism I hadn't considered this easier explanation  Undecided
But... all together? On that perfectly aligned technical point?
Still 50/50 undecided.
If the dump/instant whale buy pattern repeats, I might lean back towards my original guess.



164. Post 21901421 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 16, 2017, 03:33:03 PM
I smell a dump

Guys please have the decency. Walk a little further before you squat and dump. We don't like the smell.
Ahh, some people... pff....



165. Post 21901496 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 16, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Ummm, guys? If this is accurate, then in about two days Bitcoin is about to see it's biggest upwards difficulty adjustment since Feb 2016.

+21.63%  Shocked  Bullish?

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Someone already noted this. With the uncertainty about miners in China, this could well be the next FUD wave. Full mempool, delayed confirmations, sky-high fees. Big blockers to the rescue, "we knew SW is no solution!", "bitcoin is dead", "we've got the real bitcoin".

Bracing just in case.



166. Post 21902166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: WeltMaster on September 16, 2017, 03:43:20 PM
Ummm, guys? If this is accurate, then in about two days Bitcoin is about to see it's biggest upwards difficulty adjustment since Feb 2016.

+21.63%  Shocked  Bullish?

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Antminer d3s are now on sale

Currently offering MASSIVE boost in hash, will get around 1 btc/month at the moment

Ah, so my previous note about next FUD wave must be revised. It's just Wu having a test drive and giving its buyers the usual handicap before selling them the new toy. Some kind of ius primae noctis.



167. Post 21973856 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Torque on September 18, 2017, 05:44:34 PM
Q: So what do you do when you are large, wealthy hedge fund investors, and you want to take a large position in Bitcoin? You don't want to pay market price and enter long, as there are not enough coins in the exchange float to get a good price.

A: And the best way to 'shake the trees' is...? (Hint: it just happened)  Wink
My thoughts exactly. Add to "wealthy hedge fund investors": people about to launch derivatives in the USA - they need real collateral, at least until the SEC eventually decides to turn a blind eye to the intricate details.



168. Post 21973881 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: empowering on September 18, 2017, 05:52:53 PM
I was told cheap coins?  Shocked Roll Eyes

These are cheap coins...

It's just that he wanted the cheaper coins.



169. Post 22051212 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 05:23:43 PM
What do you mean "Recognition is subjective"? Do you mean that where a westerner see a square someone else sees a circle?
No, but where a westerner sees green, someone might see some kind of blue.

Where a westerner sees "straight, left, right, straight", someone might see different paths depending on the physical orientation of the page when it gets presented to them. All reference axes are relative to an absolute point on their island (a mountain), so they don't have relative words like "left" or "right" ("up" and "down" they do).

Imagine a westerner dealing with IQ tests prepared by someone in one such population.

There is much more cultural background to perception than we are aware of.



170. Post 22087452 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Took a blow, here it is down in the 3630-3670 range. It might go back up to 3800 or down to 3500. I'm expecting a sideways October. China is priced in, so I doubt anything special will go on on Sep 30. IMO, small ATH due in November. A larger one at latest in January.

Before anyone asks: Who told me? Where do these statements come from? My sensitives. My back.
IOW, just a hunch.



171. Post 22089721 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on September 21, 2017, 11:38:16 PM
1 Canadian Dollar equals
0.81 US Dollar

And 1 USD equals 0.83 EUR - more or less the same as CND/USD. Yet the spacing between the red and the blue curves isn't the same as blue to yellow. Either there's something that eludes me in this graph, or someone is paying an unrealistic premium when buying BTC.



172. Post 22113396 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Fully collateralized derivatives. I was pretty sure the first ones to get a green light must be of this kind.


Quote from: Torque on September 22, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
So is this October the 4th? I didn't understand the no sooner than bit...

Is this what it means? 4th?

I think that's market speak for "Hey big investors, back the fk off. We're not onboarding you early and before everyone else on our list, no matter how much money you want to throw at us. We're gonna do this in an orderly fashion. Plus we can't until Oct. the 4th anyway."  

At least that is my interpretation. Grin
Makes lots of sense.


Quote from: Ludwig Von on September 22, 2017, 01:27:09 PM

CDS are a kind of shorts already. This brings the WS casino to BTC, I wonder if we must be happy with this... .

I think the wording reported by Torque implies that in order to short, you need to match your order with a long. Zero-sum.

This opens the door to ETF and to all kinds of Wall Street madness. This is going to be huge.



173. Post 22141980 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Moderate weekend pump. Not sure it's the Amazon rumor effect or something else, but it's still just a small movement.



174. Post 22142176 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on September 23, 2017, 09:51:43 AM
The Bitcoin world is as fast as its price movements. I agree that this thread is one of the best to get a sense of what is going on out there. Who post in this thread usually adds a lot of value to every bitcoiner who wants to touch base with the news.
Especially during the summer, when I did not have much access to the internet this thread was the only one to keep me posted about all that happened.
I'm actually grateful to all of you guys that contribute here  Wink

Subscribed 100%. I was worried when there was talk about shutting down this thread, because it's my main source of sentiment and fresh info. When my interest is piqued here, I look around elsewhere, follow down links etc.

The little bit of "theatrical action" as I call it - overplayed characters such as "Verbal" JayJuanGee or the hateful Roach - are no big issue for me, and at times they even add a bit of color to the scene.



175. Post 22222555 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on September 25, 2017, 05:38:55 PM
... Why do I keep talking crap on here and my activity is always 28 tho? Sad
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg1861412#msg1861412



176. Post 22273427 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Breaking out? I think 4k is incoming.



177. Post 22277137 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Torque on September 27, 2017, 11:36:52 AM
https://www.techinasia.com/japanese-gaming-giant-nexon-buys-south-korean-bitcoin-exchange-korbit

game on!

gaming companies becoming crypto-banks, in-game currencies/tokens competing with fiat ... shit's getting weirder than fiction and the 'pros' don't know which direction the next blindside is coming from

Actually yeah thinks makes a lot of sense. The South Koreans are some of the biggest online gaming fanatics in the world. Hell, didn't they basically invent the whole idea of the 'internet cafe'? So those big gaming giants are probably seeing big money in their eyes if they were to integrate in-game crypto payments for awards, accessories, and other stuff people want. Like with WoW gold or Linden dollars.

But instead, let's all just use Bitcoin. Mmmkay?  Grin
Besides, they can keep everything offchain - basically no transaction costs for micropayments - even before LN takes hold. I think it's going to work out fine.



178. Post 22285086 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Torque on September 27, 2017, 03:22:10 PM
My only dream is that Altcash heads back to 0.20/btc so I can unload the rest that I have.
This. I was a little slow after the fork - safe splitting, many confirmations needed etc. We have some hope however, probably with the next FUD wave.



179. Post 22285876 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Icygreen on September 27, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
If we have another fork that even rhymes a little to this one, I can only see bitcoin getting stronger as people buy more in anticipation of the air drop.
Without replay protection, it will be a slow mess to untangle the altcoins though.



180. Post 22293569 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 27, 2017, 07:52:28 PM
If we have another fork that even rhymes a little to this one, I can only see bitcoin getting stronger as people buy more in anticipation of the air drop.
Without replay protection, it will be a slow mess to untangle the altcoins though.

If replay protection is not added, then what is going to be the solution, something like 100 confirmations?  Or am I misunderstanding the gravity of the problem and adding confirmations would that not be enough?

100 confirmations should be safe enough, quite hard to reverse that much.
But in a fork/war context it could take days instead of 1000 minutes (16-17 hours).
And doubt about the winning chain can add to the paralyzing effect. IF the fork happens, which still remains to be seen.



181. Post 22293593 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: mozillaspez on September 27, 2017, 07:29:04 PM
Dump ahead.
Quote
Bitcoin is at 3.7k in China.

Or maybe there isn't much relation between bitcoin price in global market and bitcoin price in theses closed markets...
There is a huge relation in global market i think you are the new person that saying that look at the media people are arising questions against bitcoin that who are the creator who toke bitcoin to high level and you are talking here like that.

Hm? Is Google Translate out of order?



182. Post 22293640 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: njcarlos on September 27, 2017, 08:01:34 PM
Slightly off topic: where do you all get your news re: bitcoin, specifically news out of China? Twitter?
Links (to Twitter, Reddit or other sources) found in this very thread  Grin



183. Post 22294723 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Odalv on September 27, 2017, 08:19:11 PM
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)

and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...  Roll Eyes
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.

Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ?  It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB


But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?



184. Post 22297423 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Odalv on September 27, 2017, 10:05:55 PM
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)

and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...  Roll Eyes
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.

Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ?  It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB

  • It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
  • You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
  • Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.

But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?

I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.  

When I wrote "You have to know WHICH lines of code... bla bla...", I didn't mean YOU-Odalv. I meant YOU-developer-for-2x-Team (which I assume you aren't), and those developer(s?) (more than one? Really?) don't seem to be terribly skilled, according to the few who were able to peek into their github mess before they made it private. So nothing personal with you.

BTW, 20 years developing for banks doesn't necessarily mean anything. Many banks still have their old dinosaur system written in Cobol. No, not your banks. OK. From your words, I suppose you must use more recent programming languages, such as C++, so you are indeed able to tweak bitcoind, allright. Whatever.

However, Mr. Average Bitcoiner doesn't really agree much with the politics and rationale of the 2x fork. He's afraid of China. He's afraid of censorship from his own government. He's afraid he won't be able to run a node any longer because of bandwidth and memory requirements. He likes his SegWit, he waits for the Lightning Network to see what it can deliver.

But let us assume Mr. Average Bitcoiner agrees with 2x. He doesn't care about censorship or centralization. He hates SW. For some very good reason, he hopes LN fails miserably. Whatever. Do you think Mr. A.B. will be so eager to install node software signed by Odalv - even with all these slightly unlikely assumptions?



185. Post 22328818 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 28, 2017, 04:46:39 PM
My wife says ok, one has the kids and the other does dinner. Of course I opted for kids, I hate doing dinner. I then ask my 2 yr old to go into the living room and I then pick up my 1 month old baby boy.....


He then projectile vomits 3 times all over me. We are both totally covered and I mean absolutely drenched.

I had 2 options and I should have chosen dinner.

The joys of parenthood, Part 2. Vomit shower comes after sleep deprivation. The greatest joys come when the child ascends to teenager status. These will be fond memories.

Cynical? Who - me?  Wink

Cooking isn't that bad. It can be fun, actually.



186. Post 22409050 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: jbreher on September 30, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
1) set aside a small amount of Bitcoin for trading
2) make a series of laddered sell orders with your trading funds
3) as your orders get bought into, place buy orders of the dollar value of the sell, but at a lower bitcoin price
4) as your buys execute, enter sells at a higher bitcoin price
5) rinse and repeat. With volatility, the net effect is that your quantity of Bitcoin will grow
6) the net direction is up. You will over time accumulate a backlog of open buy orders that are unlikely to ever be bought into
7) as your open buy orders cross the threshold of implausibility, cancel them. Now they are cash.
8 ) you may or may not be bitcoin positive at this point. Either way, you are cash positive
9) when your pile of stinky fiat gets big enough that you don't know how to spend it, withdraw any remaining open sell orders.
10) Sit back and let bitcoin get pricier until the cash itch returns.

Now this is a nice revolving system. For the earliest adopters, there is the nice "got fiat even" milestone when you withdrew as much fiat as you put in. The milestone can be hit several times, depending on the timing of buys and sells.



187. Post 22466701 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Denker on October 02, 2017, 11:09:43 AM

Quote
“Only BCC payment method is accepted in this batch, please use the exact amount mentioned in your order and complete the payment within one hour. After one hour, the order will expire and your payment may not be detected by the system automatically. If the payment is submitted but the receipt is delayed, we will make your payment “Valid” manually.”


Not a joke!
I mean you can't blame them as they openly support Bcash.
Question is will people really wanna pay in Bcash?
If not Bitmain is going to have hard times selling their rigs.
In a way it's smart. Bitmain mines a lot of Bcash due to EDA. If people wanna get new miners they will have to Bcash, which pushes the price. On the other side bitmain again can dump their bcash coins for a higher price and again accumulate cheap.
However I can't imagine Bcash being relevant as an altcoin for a longer period of time. Xapo opened the gates and people dumped. Price is plunging.The same and much more drastic I expect to happen when Coinbase allows it's customers access to the Bcash tokens.
If the PBOC doesn't come up with an announcement that Bcash will be the new ChinaCoin I believe this coins will just fade in the long run.

Correct analysis IMO. I will add my 2 cents: it's unlikely the PBoC will adopt Bcash as the new ChinaCoin.
If I were the PBoC - a control freak among control freaks - I wouldn't go for an "old" coin with a history. I'd make a brand new coin where I (ideally) hope to gather info on all addresses, possibly by making purchases only possible through tethered Yuan.



188. Post 22509822 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Torque on October 03, 2017, 12:16:33 PM
Edit: And if anyone in Bitcoin believes that all this constant 'forking' is completely normal behavior in order to improve Bitcoin, they are delusional. It is being done to attempt to divide the community and eventually derail/topple Bitcoin. Nothing more and nothing less. Their goal is to de-value and marginalize Bitcoin completely. The proof in what I'm saying will be when we get passed Nov and into next year, and yet there will be talk of more and more future forks. No existing chain will ever be good enough, even though the system we have now is working perfectly fine for all the actors involved.

The matter is it's quite cheap to mount a half-assed fork if you have some miner support. Keeping the value of the forked chain up is a totally different story. It's a hellishly long and costly business. That's where BCH stumbled, and that's where 2x will falter too, IMO.



189. Post 22510294 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Torque on October 03, 2017, 12:44:24 PM
The matter is it's quite cheap to mount a half-assed fork if you have some miner support. Keeping the value of the forked chain up is a totally different story. It's a hellishly long and costly business. That's where BCH stumbled, and that's where 2x will falter too, IMO.

I believe there are nefarious actors behind the scenes that are willing to burn money in order to derail Bitcoin. Their goal is not to 'make money'. They have millions of fiat at their disposal. Plus the havoc and confusion they are reeking in the public eye is almost enough to fulfill their mission statement.

Right, but if derailing fails (which it very well might), the nefarious actors end up enriching their very adversaries and giving them more power. Risky business, even if you've got millions to burn. I'm optimistic medium term. Maybe too much optimism?



190. Post 22512292 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Dabs on October 03, 2017, 12:58:08 PM
Obscenely rich nefarious actors are better off buying tons of bitcoin from dark pools or direct elsewhere and dumping the market in exchanges. This will drive the price down. You don't enrich anyone except whoever you originally bought the bitcoin from.

My point is: driving the price down could help strong-shouldered owners/hodlers to flesh up their stash. The next time around, your dark pools or other provider will likely have a higher ask price. Meanwhile, your adversaries (strong-shouldered guys) have more than they had. If there is demand, the price springs back up, and you lose energy with every oscillation. So you nefarious guy end up losing, unless you provide new fuel on the average.

Might be naive thinking? Am I applying medium-long term dynamics to a phenomenon that is inherently transient and nonstationary? I think the more we progress, the more the BTC ecosystem approaches the ongoing dynamics of stable (as opposed to chaotic) systems.



191. Post 22547462 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: illinest on October 04, 2017, 09:36:46 AM
There's a lot more to gain in terms of consumer (cheap) payments, anonymous payments, smart contracts and more if we are just patient and allow developers to build on top of Segwit.

My point of view, too. I guess it is the point of view of many non-politicized bitcoiners who just want an increase of utility and value, while keeping the strong points: permissionless and trustless, therefore decentralized. Non-inflationary.



192. Post 22549518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Heater on October 04, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
There's a lot more to gain in terms of consumer (cheap) payments, anonymous payments, smart contracts and more if we are just patient and allow developers to build on top of Segwit.

My point of view, too. I guess it is the point of view of many non-politicized bitcoiners who just want an increase of utility and value, while keeping the strong points: permissionless and trustless, therefore decentralized. Non-inflationary.

It will be interesting to see what the come up with, but I will take a lot of convincing before I move any coins off into a side chain - to me that smells like an alt-coin and I'm not into alt-coins.

You mean LN? The transitions from-to blockchain and sidechain are cryptographically secure as any other blockchain transaction. As for cheating counterparts, planned provision of a simple bounty for guardians (in case you're offline) makes sure they have very little wiggle room. It looks very good on paper, and I'm confident it will work as advertised in reality. At the beginning, channel capacity is going to be limited to reasonable sums anyway, so the risk for pioneers is really reasonable.



193. Post 22549567 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 04, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
I was always sceptical of TA when it comes to bitcoin but is that not a perfect head and shoulders in the bitstamp hourly? pls say no

https://imgur.com/3nK0IdZ

But this was good head and shoulder if you bought on the dip and because now we have a trend line hopefully

Is this an hourly chart??  Huh Doesn't look like it.



194. Post 22569115 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: bitebits on October 04, 2017, 08:07:50 PM
I think the declining BTC value of BCC indicates the market is pricing in the increasing odds of 2MB Bitcoin blocks becoming reality.

I think the declining BTC value of BCH (I suppose that's the altcoin you meant) indicates that a certain gang thinks their money is best burned supporting the next attack, so BCH purchases are being phased out.



195. Post 22570505 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Odalv on October 04, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
That's by design, for maximum disruption. A hostile takeover attempt by any reasonable standards.

I think splitting BTC-B2X will require mixing freshly mined coins into one's transactions. The landing chain of the transaction will be the chain where the fresh coins were mined. I still have to figure out how to do that.

There seems to be a different way invoving timelocked transactions - but I won't have a clue about this bit of magic until I research the matter. BTW, for the technically knowledgeable: pointers would be welcome  Wink



196. Post 22571024 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Odalv on October 04, 2017, 09:10:59 PM
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
That's by design, for maximum disruption. A hostile takeover attempt by any reasonable standards.

I think splitting BTC-B2X will require mixing freshly mined coins into one's transactions. The landing chain of the transaction will be the chain where the fresh coins were mined. I still have to figure out how to do that.

There seems to be a different way invoving timelocked transactions - but I won't have a clue about this bit of magic until I research the matter. BTW, for the technically knowledgeable: pointers would be welcome  Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2237232.0

Ah! Fluidjax has one more trick to share. Thanks Odalv!

EDIT: oops - the 3BITxxxxxxxxx address in Fluidjax's example is valid on both chains. No worky.



197. Post 22571152 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Odalv on October 04, 2017, 09:28:30 PM
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
That's by design, for maximum disruption. A hostile takeover attempt by any reasonable standards.

I think splitting BTC-B2X will require mixing freshly mined coins into one's transactions. The landing chain of the transaction will be the chain where the fresh coins were mined. I still have to figure out how to do that.

There seems to be a different way invoving timelocked transactions - but I won't have a clue about this bit of magic until I research the matter. BTW, for the technically knowledgeable: pointers would be welcome  Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2237232.0

Ah! Fluidjax has one more trick to share. Thanks Odalv!

I'm not sure his trick is working :-) Be aware.

Yes, I noticed immediately and edited my post. Thanks for the heads up anyway!



198. Post 22573151 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 04, 2017, 10:40:54 PM
The step in [a] direction was done a few months ago with Segwit and enabling LN.

Neither of which do anything to further the goal of onboarding the world. Whether or not we have Segwit or Lightning, 1MB blocks will require 30 years to get a single transaction to each person on earth. The only way to improve this is with larger blocks.
On the contrary, LN and similar Layer2 technology can do much. Given a sufficiently large number of channels, kept open for a sufficiently long time, the transaction rate (summed over all open channels) can grow almost without limit. In reality, there will be practical limits on channel number and channel lifespan, so a block size increase will likely be needed at some point in the future. How big an increase, and when? I think we should find out by looking at real LN transaction flow numbers.



199. Post 22574240 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 04, 2017, 11:02:54 PM
Did you:
a) not read what I wrote; or
This. Your reply came while I was writing mine.

I understand, and you have a point. Opening a channel for each person on earth isn't reasonably possible at the current rates. But that is only the ultimate goal. How many people have VISA today? At the moment, it is more important to expand the network cautiously with the means we have. L2 will be a formidable tool for this, with micropayments and all that. When Average Joe gets used to pay bitcoin at Starbucks, adoption will be so wide in the "rich west" of the world that BTC will be unstoppable.

I trust the developers - I'm not talking about Core only. Third-party L3 solutions could be piggybacked on top of L2, for example. Hardware progress might give us the bandwidth and storage improvements btc needs to be ubiquitous and censor-resistant, so a non-contentious blocksize increase might be much more feasible than it is today. But we can't possibly figure out exactly what the future will be like. We have more than enough on our hands, given what BTC is now. Let us keep it safe and resilient.



200. Post 22590658 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on October 05, 2017, 09:50:35 AM
Aww man, I hope we don't drop below $4k again. I'll have a sad then Sad

This time if it drops I'll start buying some cheap coins at $3600.
But another rally could be in the cards from here:

Quote
We're about to witness a strong Buy signal for BTC; a TK Cross above the Cloud. See what happened when it did before;
What's a TK cross? Is "the Cloud" an Ichimoku cloud?



201. Post 22594991 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: becoin on October 05, 2017, 11:46:33 AM
Big blocktard trolls are very active if price goes down and disappear if price goes up. Nice, huh?

BCH sh!t going down the drains. Somebody lost a fortune. But hey, they lost we won.

This is what would happen to B2X if there were 2-way mandatory replay protection. If they actually fork (which still remains to be seen IMO), we'd better split and sell quickly.



202. Post 22597242 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on October 05, 2017, 12:30:26 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichimoku_Kink%C5%8D_Hy%C5%8D#Tenkan-sen

Tenkan-sen is the conversion or turning line while kijun-sen is the basis line.  Tenkan-sen and Kijun-sen (TK) cross is sort of like short term MA crossing medium term MA.  Ichimoku system is something that can be useful if everyone else and his brother is using it, like the JGB market, back when it was actually a market and before BoJ came in and bought them all.  It gives insight to what other players might be thinking. 
Thank you. Reading it up.



203. Post 22619690 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 05, 2017, 09:13:08 PM
If there are 7 billion people in the world, then 1% would be 70 million using bitcoin in some kind of way... Are we even close to that?  

Obviously not. It would take about 280 days to make 70 million transactions on today's Bitcoin Core. Over a month on Bitcoin Cash, which is still too long, but nearly an order of magnitude better. Because big blocks.

... and because abnormal block production rate due to fickle difficulty adjusting mechanisms. Let's tell it all.

But I have a question for you, or whoever else may be able to answer:

Quote from: jbreher on October 05, 2017, 10:44:28 PM
I'm just trying to point out that there is at least one alternative method that a transaction originator can use to split their coins, which does not suffer these drawbacks.

(Namely, including coins from a post-fork transaction in the "splitting" transaction. Can't find jbreher's other post for a proper quote.)

Apart from a coinbase transaction, which outputs would qualify? In other words, can a simple guy set up such a splitting transaction without access to a freshly mined block?





204. Post 22643178 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: STT on October 06, 2017, 01:47:54 PM
:'(CPI is a government statistic also.   The end figures only publish after approval and adjustment, they will not report the higher price of a car for example without first discounting the car as being superior to one ten years ago.    So say 25% higher price, they might reduce actual recorded inflation and say the car is 20% improved so inflation of price is 5%.  Fair or not this is not a plain number hence the steady line may be from this constant process of correction.

Dollar is rising today as earnings average rises at its fastest for some time

Your car example is spot on. CPI is one of the very bogusest statistics, everywhere in the world. One of the best ways for guvments to obfuscate the real inflation rate.



205. Post 22650551 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 06, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
kraken down?

A few minutes ago, yes. Working now...
I guess they were rehearsing for the fork.  Grin



206. Post 22741888 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 09, 2017, 01:41:02 AM
Hey you guys, lay off jbreher.  I disagree with him, but he is polite and well reasoned...if wrong.
Yes, opinions apart, he's one of the few on the "other camp" who can sustain an informed argument - one that is worth debating. Math spot on, even with misguided qualitative views.

At any rate, I only saw gentle teasing and unbearable service talk, which seems quite acceptable  Wink  Tongue



207. Post 22815860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 10, 2017, 03:09:42 PM
...lol with the recent news from Russia re competing with China in Bitcon mining - coupled with the faux China ban , and taken into context with the usual bullshit the MSM spout..

This "supposed" Russia "ban"

Who could really give a flying fuck.

Not me that is for sure.

Not a single fuck given.

(Even if Putin were to come into my  house and smack the hardware  wallet outta my hands I would still laugh in his face)

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

With current USA gun laws, if a foreigner comes and smacks anything precious out of the houseowner's hands, are you really sure it is the trespasser who's going to laugh last?

"At first I only kneecapped him, but then he grabbed the hammer and threw it at me... I was really afraid for my (my wife's/my children's) safety... so I kept on shooting until he stopped moving... honest, officer."



208. Post 22834795 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 10, 2017, 06:04:13 PM
It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...
(SNIP)

Lol, the only thing they expressed in a peaceful way is their desire to separate from Spain. Which was promptly declared illegal and hence the following violence. Also, I do not think they expressed or published racist manifests... .

(SNIP) NOONE has the right to be above the law and obstruct law enforcement in a task that has been ordered by the Judges. I don't think that is allowed anywhere in the world.
Correct, but elsewhere in the world the judicial power is actually decoupled from the executive (government). Which in Spain it actually isn't - as per la Constitucion, not by some murky deal. So the court order smells like politics, and it looks a bit awkward from abroad. Luckily, actual beatings, brutality and killings were ultimately avoided - not like in Italy (G7) or France (crazy banlieues).

"Decoupled" judges, however, wouldn't probably have ordered anyone to shut down the referendum. Rather, in a normally functional country (which Spain totally is), they would have tried to stifle the effectiveness of the vote by declaring it "void of effects" or something like that.

Quote from: judges
"Unusual poll ordered by the Catalans at their own expense. This isn't orthodox, but OK, we know the result already."
Then  
Quote from: banks
"ahem, Houston, we have a problem. We, er, need to move, at least only officially."
Then it would have become a matter of negotiation.
Quote from: Guvment
"We (Spaniards) built this hospital. How much is it worth today to you Catalans?"
And then the EU. You can fill their line yourselfif you get my gist.

Quote from: bitserve
That said... I would have put all this shitshow to an end way sooner going directly for the promoters of the rebellion.  It is sad and very unfortunate things let go up to this point.
Uh... but it would smell like Franco, stir more shit. Bad move, too. Because the promoters have ample support - not total, granted, but you can't just "punish one to educate one thousand."

Inflexible negotiation with unfavorable financial accounting, that is the soft way.



209. Post 22899701 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2017, 08:40:49 AM
I gave a different address to you before, but i'd like to keep non-bch addresses separate, so here's a better one:
1EpzWUZvWc4vDt6yyWMg6shPihizzfYefs

Thx for your generosity holding these lotteries.



When you recieve please post a proove of payemt ..... thx

No proof, but last time micgoossens did send me an extra prize for my explanation (I was off a couple of days actually). The contest is legit.

Quote from: micgoossens
So iT must be coming now to you....
AND FOR THE REST i like This game but i also recieve Some negativite about the list.... So i dont know if everybody like iT if i would do Another list @ Some time.........

I disagree with the pressure to move the ATH game to a separate thread. This thread is on topic loosely enough to fit all the contest related posts as highly relevant. OK, there's a bit more noise than usual when the contest starts - and then it's just a series of daily updates, which could become new classics à la Jimbo's "Good morning Bitcoinland." When an ATH gets near, there's a bit of additional chatter - but it's cheerful I think, and pleasant enough for me.

Thanks micgoossens!  Smiley



210. Post 22902416 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on October 12, 2017, 10:46:57 AM
Whoohoo !
Covered boobs aren't valid on ATHs.
Don't cheat.



211. Post 23049007 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Meuh6879-1 on October 15, 2017, 03:18:07 PM
Be careful : Hacked database of passwords of all usernames is used to change your profile (and so, your password) without email notification (and so, your email linked to your profile).

Please change immediately your password with one that Bitcointalk don't have seen since ... 2014.
Please change email password if 1 of the password have been seen per Bitcointalk in your profile.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2272567.0
Oh sh***. Thanks for the heads up, Meuh.

It seems legendary accounts are the most heavily targeted. I just changed my password - but I don't get it: is it that some cracker gang got hold of an old passwd database, or are they simply able to get new versions whenever they feel like it?



212. Post 23082983 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: barota on October 16, 2017, 10:46:09 AM
i think  jamie-dimon  Speak only Angry Angry Angry

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/13/jamie-dimon-says-people-who-buy-bitcoin-are-stupid.html

dump this fucker bitcoin damnnn Angry Angry Angry

I suggest we dump Dimon talk until something interesting happens - like if he gets full board at taxpayers expense.



213. Post 23139726 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: becoin on October 17, 2017, 12:46:25 PM
bch +30% and bitcoin is dipping. looks like shitcoin supporters are pushing it.

BCH has only 2 supporters - Jihan and Roger. They are constantly burning their bitcoin stash to support their ego with no success. Every price spike is used by people happily dumping the shitcoin and buy back bitcoins. Once Ver is done spending his bitcoin wealth, BCH will become part of the Bitcoin history.


I hope their support stays strong for a while more, possibly getting insanely strong around the fork date. I still have some, I wouldn't mind selling them at 0.2-0.3. All right, I know it's just a dream, but anyway.



214. Post 23184970 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on October 18, 2017, 12:07:52 PM
New measure to prevent account stealing have been integrated : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2282758.0
Nice move. I'm surprised such a security measure hasn't been implemented years ago, when the trade of valuable old accounts started to take off.



215. Post 23191793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 18, 2017, 02:12:42 PM
Yeah getting a bit bored of this dump now.

$500 dump per coin, this is pretty shit. Hope it doesn’t drop below $5000.
Well, it might IMO. Just don't burn all your fiat on this dip yet.  Wink



216. Post 23192936 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 18, 2017, 03:08:55 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

We finally got enough of a dip to get me up off my ass and buy some more coin... currently $5220USD/$6525CAD (Bitcoinaverage). That's back up by more than a c-note since I bought this AM. Seems I caught pretty much the bottom again but I hope I didn't blow it by only spending half the fiat I'd earmarked for Bitcoin. I thought it might go lower so I held half back.

Same here. I'm expecting sub 5k, with a possible weekend retracement.



217. Post 23198837 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 18, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
I hope I didn't blow it by only spending half the fiat I'd earmarked for Bitcoin. I thought it might go lower so I held half back.

Same here. I'm expecting sub 5k, with a possible weekend retracement.

It's starting to look like we both might have blown it. It's already rebounded by over $250 from the bottom.

Still, this could go either way. My cash and QR codes are ready just in case it goes back down.
_____

edit: make that over $300

There's still 48+h till the weekend, 96+ until Monday. This bumpy sideways action can dip as easily as surge. I think keeping some fiat ready on the lines is a good strategy in times such as these.



218. Post 23203539 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on October 18, 2017, 06:20:39 PM
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ur5dFHVV8EIJ:https://coinreport.net/bitcoin-fraud-unfair-competition-class-action-lawsuit-filed/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

satoshi et al. being sued lol. (coinreport.net down for some hours now)
Brilliant lawsuit. It will be nice to see mr. Nakamoto in court. Imagine his face when he loses and they seize his bitcoin stash!



219. Post 23203584 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 18, 2017, 07:35:11 PM


Yes, but how do you get corruption in that place?? Can you bribe people?? Smiley

I think Russia could be a more reasonable place! Smiley

to each their own

I prefer a functioning society WITHOUT official corruption, thanks.

Laws lead to corruption.

Corruption leads to chaos.

Chaos leads to…suffering.



Cool

WEEEE

 I would rephrase that to unfounded fear.   The Dodo was a fearless bird and it may well have been that lack of fear which led to the Dodo's demise.



It was also slow, clumsy, and delicious to eat (reportedly). On the other hand, the honey badger, although fairly fearless, seems to lack the other qualities.



220. Post 23203771 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Obligatory on-topic post.

There seems to be strong buying pressure around 5.1-5.2 k. It looks like real support, at least until the sentiment changes (hint to FUDders).



221. Post 23203906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 18, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
I would rephrase that to unfounded fear.   The Dodo was a fearless bird and it may well have been that lack of fear which led to the Dodo's demise.
It was also slow, clumsy, and delicious to eat (reportedly). On the other hand, the honey badger, although fairly fearless, seems to lack the other qualities.
Also it shrugs off venomous snake bites. Fucker has nothing to fear, thus it doesn't.

I heard it said that it doesn't usually give excessive f**ks.



222. Post 23204326 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 18, 2017, 07:51:12 PM
Your mama and your gov't had your back though.   They even vaccinated you. (pure speculation)
You talking to me? Yes, they had. And they did. But it seems confirmed by several sources that also the honey badger's mama has its back. Not the government, though.



223. Post 23204803 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 18, 2017, 08:11:38 PM
-snip-

that ass is stainless steal.
yep ... she's a real soldier.

(snip)
Also entirely fictional.

The soldier is fictional. The stainless steel ass isn't.



224. Post 23204891 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 18, 2017, 08:14:15 PM
that ass is stainless steal.
yep ... she's a real soldier.


Also entirely fictional.

The soldier is fictional. The stainless steel ass isn't.
The camera has always lied, and nowadays it is actively manipulated. Fictional.
[/quote]
Awwwwright, it might be. If you don't mind, and if the lady doesn't mind, I'd like to check myself.

(Sorry for the offtopic ramblings. It's just that I'm a sweethearted, sensitive guy and some views just make me emotional.)



225. Post 23205339 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on October 18, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
It's just that I'm a sweethearted, sensitive guy and some views just make me emotional.



"you want me to tell you a story before going to bed ?"

Oh yes please, auntie auntie! Just wait for the new ATH will you?
Tonight I'd like to hear a bedtime story from the fictional soldier with a likely factual ass.



226. Post 23206597 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Nam3 on October 18, 2017, 08:58:45 PM
Holy Shit!!! Apparently, we're back to where we've started the day  Huh 5,500 on Finex. Where do we go from here?

Down to 52xx again? Bumpy as hell.
It feels like a series of "shakes" (bulltraps, beartraps). I smell real action coming later on. 10k within 30 days maybe?



227. Post 23316837 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

It seems I was utterly wrong in expecting a correction in the 42xx area before the next leg up.
The correction may come with the next FUD wave, but I expect it will be higher than that.
5xxx looks like a solid support bottom ATM.
10k by end of year is not unrealistic.
We do live in interesting times.



228. Post 23340279 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Vin on October 21, 2017, 11:41:10 PM
And here they come... . (I doubt if we should be happy with that).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-21/ledgerx-launches-trading-bitcoin-options-and-swaps
Why should we happy with that?
Because it's fresh institutional big money coming in, possibly.

Quote from: Torque on October 21, 2017, 11:46:53 PM
I believe this whole quote in that article is dead wrong:
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"We imagine LedgerX won’t have too difficult of a time moving inventory, considering bitcoin’s astounding run of new record highs persists unabated. In a market starved for volatility, giving the "big boys" the ability to trade with massive leverage on what is already the most volatile asset class in existence is just what some funds need to make their year as they swing for the fences with 20x (or more in) margin."

From the rulebook rules that I last saw, LedgerX does not allow any margin trading. And no shorting.

At least no naked shorting, which is good enough in my book.



229. Post 23369421 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

I was somewhat disappointed when bitcoin didn't dip to 52xx (or at least 53xx) before tackling the high 5k's again (and now close to, or at, 6k). So i bought the recent, much smaller, dip at 5810. Still keeping some fiat on hand just in case. There might be stormy seas soon, with all the forking turmoil. Hodl steady, gentlemen.



230. Post 23387645 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on October 23, 2017, 12:17:25 AM
Since we are discussing politics, we might as well discussing Bitcoin politics.  As people may know already, BCH is set to hard fork on Nov. 13, 2017 to change their EDA/DAA.  
https://bitsonline.com/bitcoin-cash-hard-fork/
Now while people may laugh it off as just another joke from an ALT.  I believe the date is chosen to deliberately cause max disruption.
As we know, the S2X fork is set to happen around Nov 14, 2017 and that the next BTC difficulty adjustment will likely increase difficulty by at least 10%.  So with another difficulty adjustment around Nov 10, we would likely see difficulty rise to at least 15~20% higher than the current level.

As we discussed before, S2X coin is now trading far below the S1X/Core at the current rate (6:1).  So the NYA miners are looking at 80%~90% mining loss right off gate if they choose to follow the S2X chain.  There is no EDA either, so as more miners bail, the remaining miners would face an impossible task in getting to 100 blocks to collect their pay at the current projected difficulty.  We also know that at least 30% of current hashrate is "mercenary" in that they are profit seeking and will jump to the currently most profitable chain, based on BCH experience.  

So by changing the BCH algorithm on Nov 13, it seeks to draw in the most opportunistic miners right before the S2X fork, so that remaining miners would have a better chance of enforcing a NYA outcome and make S2X succeed.  We already know that F2Pool pulled out of NYA and that ViaBTC would offer its miners the option to mine either S1X or S2X chain.  By making BCH profitable to mine on Nov. 13, miners who would have bailed on NYA on Nov 14 because S2X price is so unprofitable, would be unavailable on S1X/Core chain.

By trying to draw as much of profit-seeking hashrate to BCH instead of having them jump over to S1X chain right from the start, I presume the purpose is to try to crash the S1X price, or at least try to narrow the huge price difference between S1X and S2X so that people like Roger Ver, who make the 1000 BTC swap bet, can at least cover their ass and not look as bad.  It could also make the forking debacle more drawn out than expected, as its ultimately a power struggle between miners and hodlers.  Miners have to pay for electricity and depreciation, while it's free for hodler to hodl and not making any tx.  So narrowing the price difference between S1X and S2X would make miners' struggle easier.  

Your post makes lots of sense. But maybe there's an alternative explanation?
Couldn't it be just an attempt to revive the vanishing BCH price, rather than to reduce the S1X/S2X price gap?
I mean, a way to repay back the "faithful" miners who mined BCH at a loss for a long time.
In any case, I'm waiting at the window with the bucket of my residual BCH ready to dump.



231. Post 23388191 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on October 23, 2017, 12:54:42 AM

Your post makes lots of sense. But maybe there's an alternative explanation?
Couldn't it be just an attempt to revive the vanishing BCH price, rather than to reduce the S1X/S2X price gap?
I mean, a way to repay back the "faithful" miners who mined BCH at a loss for a long time.
In any case, I'm waiting at the window with the bucket of my residual BCH ready to dump.


The point is that while the act itself may be self-interested, the date chosen is deliberate, since they can do the algo change at any time and ease the suffering of "mysterious miner" even today.  But they had to chose a date right before S2X fork and hence it is a scheme to help the S2X succeed.  Whether the scheme will succeed or not, who knows, but these kind of attacks are good in that it tests whether bitcoin can resist centralization.  It is better for the attack to come from within rather than from the governments.  
Of course the date is deliberate, but what I meant is that the chosen date is likely to maximize the impact of the action, whether it is support to the S2X attack or a simple attempt at pumping BCH. The date choice alone does not necessarily point to an attack (other considerations could indeed reinforce the hypothesis of a coordinated attack).



232. Post 23388442 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 23, 2017, 01:04:43 AM
It is better for the attack to come from within rather than from the governments.  

And how would you know that these patsies and muppets aren't being coerced or paid by govt or big corp aligned interests? The logic behind what they are constantly trying to do only makes sense in light of such. Absent of that, it really makes zero sense.
Yes, there probably is a certain government sponsoring the whole operation, but the point remains that this is a technical stress test performed with technical means - not a full-fledged open government campaign with electric power monitoring, localbitcoins infiltration and similar non-crypto means.



233. Post 23454650 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Icygreen on October 24, 2017, 01:23:39 AM
Can someone explain the hate towards btg?

I don't know much about it, but making it mineable with gpu's should make it more decentralized, or no?

What's so wrong with it?

Thanks!

The way it was described to me recently here is this:
GPU would work for a short period of time until someone manufactures and monopolizes on ASIC machines to control the hash power. In short, that is what we already have.

Anyone Feel free to correct me if I've got that wrong.

It's correct - GPU would work for a while, then we'd have GPU farms instead of ASIC farms: no big difference. However, from what I've read, this particular algorithm is memory-hungry. Now I don't know exactly how hungry it is, but in principle an algorithm that requires, say, 8GB to compute one hash would be very hard to farm. It would equalize hash power in a significant way, at least until RAM prices go down one or more orders of magnitude.

Difficulty with such an algorithm may involve adjusting both computing power (as it is now with SHA256) and memory requirements. By tweaking the "memory-hunger" parameter, it could be made so that adding more GPUs to a farm won't yield significant results. You'd have to upgrade all your GPU chips with more RAM, or configure your farm to make a chip borrow RAM from its neighbor, which would then be made useless. Rather than "one CPU, one vote" it would be "one memory bank, one vote."  Same concept basically, but economically more sensible with the current state of hardware progress.

Quote from: Torque on October 24, 2017, 01:31:29 AM
..and something about a premine (only designed to make the initial devs rich)

On the other hand, premine is the unmistakable hallmark of a scam. So this particular altcoin is a joke/scam/useless anyway.



234. Post 23458098 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Decent dip in the last 24 or so hours. Large enough to make even Jimbo happy, probably. We'll know soon enough!  Cheesy

I managed to buy some more around $5600 (avg). Good enough for me. Still got some fiat for a pretty little accumulation.



235. Post 23471663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 24, 2017, 04:21:09 PM
So true my friend. "If you don't hold your private keys, it's not your bitcoin."

Sad though, I have a feeling that ten years from now, the banks that want to survive will be offering to store customers' bitcoin for them as a service.... and the public will be too scared of their own incompetence and just use it.  Undecided

The MSM will probably even have weekly fake news stories about how this person or that person got robbed of all their bitcoin.. to scare people even more into using the banks.

It will only take half a bank run to falsify that kind of MSM narrative.
Or real interest (denominated in bitcoin) to persuade old bitcoiners.



236. Post 23509590 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

This is strictly OT, but very interesting for me.

Quote from: Ibian on October 25, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
Not sure how to do research on this without it being hopelessly tainted by ideology.
Exactly the problem, yes. One often used option is to study animals first.

Here's my take:

In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.

Anyway it's probably best to ask some gay people what they think about all this.
That's not an unreasonable hypothesis, but humans evolved in tribes where no one man is indispensable. That's why women have the hypergamous instinct, in the event that one man dies (or they simply tire of him) they can move in with another. The christian missionaries in the new world did not like this part of native culture at all but it is how things work in tribal life. And it doesn't explain why homosexuality exists in animals.

Sexual promiscuity and relative freedom, communal raising of the young, polygamy etc., are believed to be frequent behaviors (common in >50% of communities) in pre-agricultural human societies. The few remaining human communities that are in a pre-agricultural stage (hunters-gatherers) do follow this pattern, as do other social non-human primates (with exceptions). The percentage of communities with such communal sexual behaviour is species-specific. For example, bonobos and common chimpanzees are like this, but other large ape species have different behavior distribution (I'm thinking of mountain gorillas, baboons etc).

The theory which is more popular among ethologists and anthropologists is that when agriculture sets in, there is literal and metaphorical fence-building: My land, my harvest, my woman. Don't touch or I'll kill you. Besides, not only the "landlord"'s role (male head of family), but also the female's, becomes harder to replace if it's just the basic couple, rather than the whole village, who must work the crops and the house.

So the poetic image that goes along with this theory is that agriculture is the "loss of innocence" landmark for mankind. The pre-agricultural state can then be mythically transfigured into a lost paradise.

My personal experience, while not significant statistically, reinforces this myth. I used to have a business in a distant part of the world. There, I befriended many people that have a nomadic (pre-agricultural) history and were forced into "civilization" only a few generations ago. They are different, indeed. The women react very differently. The men react quite differently. The sense of possession is much weaker indeed. The sense of impermanence is palpable. I like that general feeling very much. Of course, with the Internet and globalization reaching every "civilized" human, the dominant mentality quickly takes over. Things are changing fast and even trace amounts of that innocent paradise are being lost and will vanish soon.



237. Post 23524175 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 25, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
I think its all about setting a direction and the others will follow! right now we use workarounds...

Quote from: gwoplock on October 25, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
That's wonderful for the people that know about bitcoin and this workaround. To bring BTC to the masses you need Amazon and the like to adopt it.

Definitely. Imagine a "Pay with Bitcoin" button on Amazon's checkout page and what it will do for general adoption. That could be the true tipping point to the mythical S-curve.



238. Post 23528507 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: bitebits on October 25, 2017, 04:51:32 PM

So they are now on the same page as Satoshi is in his whitepaper. And in line with the Gemini exchange.
Nothing wrong with revising your view when you figure out there is only one measurement in the end: hashrate.

Consensus too was mentioned in the whitepaper, if I'm not mistaken.

If there's any truth to the recent news, imagine how happy Gemini and Coinbase customers will be when the "bitcoins" they bought (at a significant discount, I bet) get turned down by Amazon's cart checkout. I sense lawsuits incoming.



239. Post 23528922 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: gwoplock on October 25, 2017, 05:34:55 PM
pardon my ignorance (I've been out of the loop for a few years) but what are these bitcoins you are talking about?

Digital stuff for nerds. Basically useless. Don't worry, exit the loop immediately.



240. Post 23529456 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: gwoplock on October 25, 2017, 05:40:47 PM
pardon my ignorance (I've been out of the loop for a few years) but what are these bitcoins you are talking about?

Digital stuff for nerds. Basically useless. Don't worry, exit the loop immediately.

let me rephrase that. I read a bit about the hard fork a while back, I just don't know what happened with that.
Sorry gwoplock, I thought you were fishing for sarcasm.

The attack is officially meant to double the blocksize (hence the 2x part of the name) while keeping SegWit, unlike the altcoin BCH, aka BitcoinCash (hence the ticker S2X). On paper, the motivation and the supporters are the same as the NY cartel. However, no proper replay protection has been implemented by the attackers. This is intentional, so the supposed fork is actually an attack. There has been open talk about "attacking" and "strategies" on some well-known Reddit subs. The real goal is replacing Core with more - say - malleable developer(s). Some kind of replay protection can be attempted post-fork at the user's risk. The token for the replay-protected resulting altcoin S2X is available for trade on a few selected exchanges, and is valued at a small fraction of the BTC price.
 
In the meantime, several original signers from the infamous NY coven have retracted their support. A couple of major exchanges are trying to keep a foot in two shoes.



241. Post 23534593 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 25, 2017, 06:18:27 PM
Take a look at current Japanese culture for example.  Basically in a nutshell, the land is maxed out, they have entered a deflationary spiral of sorts, the Socialism experiment has failed,
(But has it ever begun?)

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the central Bank of Japan owns something like 65% of all corporate debt, and the people work at corporations that exist basically just to pay off the interest on their corporate debt --- so basically "zombie" banks and corporations.  So the young people, overburdened with an old world social structure that's no longer working, and overburdened with personal/corporate debt, lack of advancement opportunities, etc. are no longer dating, marrying, reproducing and having families.  The majority of guys aren't even interested in the girls, just interested in themselves (preening, socializing, hanging with their guy friends, etc.). Sounds pretty depressing, huh?
There used to be a social pact of sorts until the 70's-early 80's whereby a big corporation, after sucking the parent's blood for a lifetime, would employ the child on the elder's retirement. This pact has been broken with the crisis of the 80's, and never resumed thereafter. So the frail socio-economic cohesion of Japan is going to the dogs. Socio-cultural cohesion is still quite strong, though. Maybe it's an island thing.

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This made me think of something I had read a while back about a mice experiment conducted in the 1960's by John B. Calhoun.
I didn't know about that. I read up a bit. Very interesting.

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Half way down the Wikipedia page you can read about it, especially about the male mice that came to be known as "the beautiful ones".  The similarities between his experiment conclusion and what is happening now in Japan is uncanny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun
Yes! The grass eating kids, or "vegetarian men" as it gets translated into English. And as Ibian points out further down, this at least is not an "island thing."




242. Post 23537696 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 25, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
the supposed fork is actually an attack.

It may be worth observing the fact that whether this is an attack or rather a simple upgrade is dependent upon your individual perspective.
Right. We differ on that, it's understood.

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The real goal is replacing Core with more - say - malleable developer(s).

Notion is absurd.

IF S2X becomes the hashrate victor
the consensus victor...

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AND
IF the core developers switch to developing an S2X compatible client
... which they said they won't (of course it remains to be seen if they keep their word)

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THEN
It is highly likely that their implementation will acquire majority status
AND
They would not, in fact, be replaced.
Under all these assumptions
(whose plausibility could be debated, but we know better than to engage in that right now, or at least I do)
that's right, they wouldn't be.



243. Post 23537815 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: vroom on October 25, 2017, 09:12:12 PM
https://coin.dance/blocks  

segwit2x signaling rate is down to 75% in the last 24 hours. miners changing their minds?
A word from Jeff Bezos could nail S2X inside its coffin.



244. Post 23545699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 25, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
The point remains that any 'changing of the guard' would be an abdication*. And hence, would not be merely an effort to overthrow the current devs with ones more malleable.
You mean: Core would abdicate by refusing to code for a project (S2X) that they don't subscribe to.

Quote from: jbreher on October 25, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
*Much as we all abdicated our consensus-determining (i.e., mining) power years ago.
You mean: we abdicated by exiting the arms race for mining.

Actually, these are different actions - the first already historical (by user "inaction"), and the second hypothetical, only possible if S2X "wins" and "takes over". The difference is that the first abdication - we, the users giving up mining - was more or less unavoidable, given the financial and existential investment in becoming a pro miner. On the other hand, Core's abdication would be a political-economic switch to one of two sides - voluntary and totally avoidable, therefore closer to the meaning of the verb "abdicate." Not exactly spot on, though: while "abdicating" S2X, the developers would probably continue to code BTC, likely adding some kind of software retaliation to burn bridges.

Your rhetoric use of the same verb for the two actions is sophisticated all right, but it feels like by way of this sophisticated rhetoric you're trying to deflect my attention. Come on, please!

The reason I like arguing with your "trolling" (not my definition ehehe, I'm only quoting someone else O:-) is that I want to understand the ultimate reason why you support your claim. What do you expect the normal user could gain from something like S2X? Or maybe you're not a normal user? If so, who are you in terms of financial-social goals?




245. Post 23545904 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 26, 2017, 02:15:53 AM
The fact people aren't migrating away from Coinbase en masse tells me something about people--they're mostly a bunch of apathetic wankers.
That's why I say a word from Amazon (or a "pay with BTC" button, even better) can close the matter. The inertia of single users is nothing compared to that of organizations. Just imagine what happens with all the merchants when they must switch to a different token, with a different value, that they can convert into fiat or into the other token only at certain exchanges.

Of course, Amazon's strength is its mass adoption, which would quickly transfer to the chosen method of payment. Other economic actors, while not that powerful, could sum up to a similar effect over a longer time.



246. Post 23576021 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Torque on October 26, 2017, 02:26:50 PM
And if you want to own a house or land, it would be smarter to only liquidate enough bitcoin for a sizable down payment, and then get a really good low fixed rate 30yr loan for the rest. Bitcoin's yearly returns would handily beat, actually crush any 3-4% yearly interest on the loan. Plus both the house/land AND your left over bitcoin would both be increasing in value relative to fiat while you were still making loan payments.
Spot on.



247. Post 23577659 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 26, 2017, 07:52:16 AM
Bullshit. It is exactly what happened. Signaling support for segwit was anemic. It was not until the NYA agreement and signaling of S2X that segwit amassed any provable support. That is what occurred, and it is clearly within the record.
NYA signaling helped to stir things up, yes, but only because it became apparent that the miners couldn't stop it and had to swallow - oops, embrace it. Segwit is good, long-term good, but myopic miners can't see beyond their weekly revenue and were herded by selfish Chinese businessmen. Yes, I know,  our narratives on this matter differ. This is just incidental, and not my main point.


Quote from: jbreher on October 26, 2017, 07:52:16 AM
we, the users giving up mining - was more or less unavoidable, given the financial and existential investment in becoming a pro miner.
I don't think that is true. Who here still mines? Show of hands? I know there are some here that mine on a limited scale.

But more to the point, there was nothing preventing each of us from jumping in and mining. Sure, it seems an insurmountable expense today (but is it really? what about the small scale miners in existence?) but at the dawn of the pro miner era, there were no pro miners. Or IOW, when the mining gets tough, the tough get pro. Yes, we abdicated.
How can you be competitive at mining today? Come on, be honest in your assessments as you are flawless with your math. There maybe a few of us still doing it because of previous commitment or individual mentality, but mining simply isn't for the masses anymore*. Which was instead the point of Nakamoto's original vision. He was right on the math, but predicting the future is for wizards, not for scientists.

*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale. One RAM bank, one vote. RAM speed can't grow as CPU speed did. There are several cryptohash algorithms where you can impose a bottleneck on memory size and/or sequential memory operations. I bet this is the way POW is headed to, if any change is going to happen.

Quote from: jbreher on October 26, 2017, 07:52:16 AM
I want to understand the ultimate reason why you support your claim. What do you expect the normal user could gain from something like S2X?

As I have been saying for literally years, the stupid centrally-planned production quota that limits capacity is stifling adoption. I expect S2X (in comparison to S1X) to allow double the number of transactions per second, per hour, per day. Therefore reenabling use cases that have been obsoleted by Cores insane Raspberry Pi fetish. More use cases = more usability. Pretty simple calculus really. Oh - and lower fees besides.
What you call the "insane Raspberry Pi fetish" is the David-against-Goliath guarantee that verifying and keeping the big guys in check has a cost small enough for anyone to be able to afford it! No mining rig required. That's exactly the point of decentralization.

You want greater adoption? You're not alone, jbreher. We all do, of course! But if adoption comes at the price of pushing Joe "David" Average out of the loop, it's just Visa-like adoption, not financial freedom-adoption. Can't you see that? That's what I meant when I half-jokingly invoked Jeff Bezos' role as a Deus ex machina savior - "Here's adoption for you my children (in a celestial Amazonesque voice)... now go in peace and stop the silliness about big blocks... (epic THX thunder)."

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It ain't Bitcoin Cash, but it's double the goodness of S1X.
If big blocks are what you really think you need, you've got BCH already. What's the point of S2X then?

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Besides, we've shown that bigger blocks are not a problem. Why the obstinance on the part of Core? I think they're merely afraid of losing face.
Shown where? Bigger blocks are indeed a problem if usage ramps up. Latency, bandwidth and mass memory requirement would skyrocket for simple Joe "David" Average verification, not only for mining. Censorship resistance would be seriously impacted.

I refuse to believe you don't see that - you're too smart not to. That's why I was asking for your true motives.

I guess you just don't want to tell us.



248. Post 23670504 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 27, 2017, 01:07:04 AM
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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.



249. Post 23691371 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 28, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
Those with the resources and wherewithal will not need to _emulate_ terabytes of memory. They will simply _buy_ them. And expend the effort and deploy the ingenuity required to build up large datacenters of 'em.
Not as easy as buying miners or emulating phones. Not as economical. Not as scalable. Of course, if they have resources and want to use them, they're free to.

However, cheap electricity, newest generation chips, and other factors that are now unbalancing the game won't be that relevant anymore, and there will be much fairer competition. That's the point - not avoiding concentration, but letting concentration happen with similar ease almost everywhere. So Average David can spend 1000$, and his 1000$ are worth almost exactly as much as Goliath's 1000$.

Today, specialized and generic hardware have performances orders of magnitude away. With this equalizing move, the difference would drop to well under a SINGLE factor of 10 - probably a lot less. Any American could put up a mining rig knowing that electricity costs are not the bottleneck anymore. That would be a significant change.



250. Post 23692836 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 28, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
However, cheap electricity, newest generation chips, and other factors that are now unbalancing the game won't be that relevant anymore, and there will be much fairer competition.

What -- exactly -- do you find _unfair_ about the current situation?
Difference in costs and in the cost/return ratio.

Quote from: jbreher on October 28, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
That's the point - not avoiding concentration, but letting concentration happen with similar ease almost everywhere. So Average David can spend 1000$, and his 1000$ are worth almost exactly as much as Goliath's 1000$.
David has some advantages that Goliath does not. For instance, applying the 'waste' heat to a real need. This is something that can be done at small scale, and cannot (or at least currently is not) done at scale.
Peanuts. Besides, newer hardware squashes old to the point that old rigs aren't economical. Obsolescence should be realigned, too.

Quote from: jbreher on October 28, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
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Any American could put up a mining rig knowing that electricity costs are not the bottleneck anymore.
Nonsense. Electrical costs will always be a dominant factor in Bitcoin mining. Whether in flip flops in an ASIC or words in a memory column, each bit flip requires some number of Joules of energy.
Of course, but flipping "the same bits" as quickly as possible (computing power, not memory bound) is one thing. Flipping "a much larger number of different bits" as quickly as possible - but less quickly because RAM won't allow max speed (memory bound computation) is rather less energy-intensive. Physics.

Quote from: jbreher on October 28, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
I canna change the laws of physics, captain!
Right, I can't. Even if I could, I would be wary. I'm just an ordinary guy.



251. Post 23860076 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

I don't know how easy 400k will be, but 10k within the year looks doable.



252. Post 23861685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Lauda on November 01, 2017, 09:05:48 AM
I don't know how easy 400k will be, but 10k within the year looks doable.
10k within a year? Fork put aside, 10k will happen in Q1 2018 at the latest if they futures market goes live within 2017 which it should.

I meant within the year 2017.



253. Post 23875785 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on November 01, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
So, I bought i little today, and immediately bitcoin stalled. Sorry guys.
Don't worry, keep on buyin', we need moar cheap korn.



254. Post 24032767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 03, 2017, 05:25:16 PM
Why the fuck are RogerBucks up so much ? The hell is up with that shit ?

Cause speculation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2259054.0
https://theflippening.github.io/open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-from-another-miner/

+ people shilling this speculation on social media

I just finished reading the open letter, and, I must admit, it scared the hell out of me. I have already sold all my Bitcoin Cash. I really wish things will not turn out the way the letter describes!

Wondering if we all should have kept our BCH... Shocked

Jimbo and jbreher may well turn out to be the smartest guys among us.
Patience is key, indeed. I'm still keeping some just in case...



255. Post 24149233 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 06, 2017, 11:07:54 PM

We are the few, the enlightened, the ones who See.
And that's not even an exaggeration.
meh
i make no claims
Last thing I remember these things were $300 a pop and I was making dick-tree jokes. I'm not even clever. Food for thought.
Well, genius and madness are almost the same thing. Only that one of them is useful.
I know nothing in terms of the amount of knowledge that is out there, but what i know compared to the general masses scares them.
http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/
answers by morning pls, lads. i don't even get half the questions

Does he mean Rawls as in veil of ignorance Rawls? Funny guy.

Yes, that's what he means. I wonder what a "scientific" approach to ethics could be like.

Funny set of questions, some so vague as to be hard to answer, some flawed by the misuse of the word "orthogonal" to mean either "independent" or "contrasting", according to the phase of the moon. I think I can address about half of them with confidence, the other half with a "Uh? Whatever he wants to hear from me?"



256. Post 24257858 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Elwar on November 08, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
Imagine when millions of people are opening and closing LN channels or executing smart contracts.
It is not my intention to spread FUD, but we have an eventual problems between our hands.
I really hope bitcoin can scale offchain, as onchain.

How often does one open and close a credit card in their lifetime?
Actually the situation is more akin to a debit card. The max amount (channel money capacity) is low. And each topping of the card must be done with on-chain transactions. At least, this is what I found the only time I read LN's tech spec. It was a while ago, and things might have changed already.

I'm pretty sure that production updates to the LN protocol will solve all these issues: channel (money) capacity is a simple constant in the source code, being kept low on purpose in the experimental phase for security's sake. Refilling (topping) a depleted channel would be trickier, and I haven't yet figured out how it could be done.

If anyone has pointers, I'd be glad to read up.



257. Post 24258419 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Gab0 on November 08, 2017, 08:51:19 PM

I can be wrong, correct me if I do.
To use LN you must create payment channels. If I want to buy something on Amazon, I should open a payment channel with Amazon. But, if tomorrow I want to buy something on Ebay, I must also open a channel with them? And if later I want to buy a coffee at Starbucks, should I open another channel?

No such need, as long as you share a channel with a node (that has a channel shared with a node (that has...  ...)))) with Starbucks.  Same for Amazon. It's a mesh network. The general opinion is that there will be enough channels open to reach any relevant agent.



258. Post 24260563 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: bitebits on November 08, 2017, 10:30:28 PM

I can be wrong, correct me if I do.
To use LN you must create payment channels. If I want to buy something on Amazon, I should open a payment channel with Amazon. But, if tomorrow I want to buy something on Ebay, I must also open a channel with them? And if later I want to buy a coffee at Starbucks, should I open another channel?

No such need, as long as you share a channel with a node (that has a channel shared with a node (that has...  ...)))) with Starbucks.  Same for Amazon. It's a mesh network. The general opinion is that there will be enough channels open to reach any relevant agent.

Ah you mean like Bitcoin? But then without the peer to peer? Sounds great.
It's still peer to peer (no central authority), but not one-to-one. There will be multiple routes. Irregular mesh topology over Tor.

Quote from: afbitcoins on November 08, 2017, 11:07:47 PM
You will open an account (payment channel) with a bank (lightning node hub) which routes your payments where they need to go. The lightning network will certainly evolve to be central hubs routing payments.  These banks (lightning node hubs) will settle on the blockchain when you close your account (payment channel) but otherwise won't really need the blockchain much.

Unless I'm mistaken

Right, not much need for on-chain stuff except opening/closing channels. Or possibly topping them up, I am still not clear on what will happen with "refill" operations as the protocol evolves. The hubs will be "central" only in the sense of "hyperconnected, with lots of money at stake in multiple channels". They won't be able to censor transactions or tamper with the protocol - or even figure out where the coins ultimately go. Hubs can be routed around if desired or necessary. Someone else will get the fees - if any. Not that shabby, is it?



259. Post 24260704 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 08, 2017, 11:21:21 PM
Open a node over Tor for online shopping. w/e Cheesy
Are you trolling? BTC can already use Tor as the network layer if it works on your BTC node.



260. Post 24260883 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 08, 2017, 11:25:21 PM
Open a node over Tor for online shopping. w/e Cheesy
Are you trolling? BTC can already use Tor as the network layer if it works on your BTC node.
No I just don't get it. Isn't there a law about using fiat for shopping, because it's basically disintegrating anyway? Gresham or Hanlon or Newton...there's a law.

The "bad money pushes good money out of circulation" law? That's Gresham's.
But - admitting you wish to use BTC for coffee or whatever - it will be your LN client that manages the Tor connection, figures out a route to the recipient, and initiates the transaction. You don't have to actually set up any Tor node.



261. Post 24369294 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Sold half of my remaining BCH at 0.15 BTC/BCH!  Cheesy Now let it pump just a little more...



262. Post 24400213 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: podyx on November 11, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
I think this is just a bit of a FUD phase. I feel sort of safe knowing that people are panicking even though the price has only dropped from 7300 to 6400
This.
As Rosewater Foundation said, BCH is approaching a fork. It is broken at the protocol level: without a malleability fix, second and third layer solutions are very hard (near impossible) to implement soundly. Of course, the fees are lower, hur hur. With larger blocks and low usage, they must. Besides, BCH never suffered a single spam attack. But medium term? The only practical use of BCH, apart from trading, is buying Chinese mining equipment. What kind of future can such an altcoin have?

They can pump and dump all they want, I still have an optimistic view of the near future.



263. Post 24402440 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Your posts are always well reasoned, tought-provoking and informative, LewisPirenne. I am interested in your opinion.

Quote from: LewisPirenne on November 11, 2017, 12:45:23 PM
People are spamming the mempool with 1300 satoshi/byte tx, i.e. paying 3~5 mbtc per 225 byte standard tx, and most go to fee with only dust remaining, to lock up the tx in mempool during this BCH pump.  But BTC+BCH is actually getting lower and lower in total, meaning someone is killing that golden goose that had just kept on giving so far.

Maybe the cartel will do a flippening on ETH just for lolz.  But if some insiders can flippen ETH in marketcap just like this, then it's actually really bearish for the entire crypto world.  Because imagine what would happen when the real professional pumpers, i.e. Wall Street banksters, come on the scene.
I don't understand very well. In your opinion, does this bearish outlook get triggered only if there is an ETH flippening during the BCH fork scope?

My gut feeling (not well thought out) is that of a simple cartel maneuver to pump BCH. The S2X might or might not have been just a diversion - I haven't figured out yet. Also, the nonzero value of S2X futures isn't clear to me. An explanation in this thread (Marcus or Torque? Can't remember) said it's the premium for early redemption of... of what? How does that fact fill in your understanding of the current situation?



264. Post 24404510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on November 11, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
As to why S2X future even has values, it's the reason that people have stated before.  That is, in order to sell your S2X future when it goes live a month ago, you need to split your coins into BT1 and BT2.  Now when that BT2 is worthless at 5 mbtc as news came out, people buy back (short cover) BT2 to re-combine with BT1 so that they can get back their original BTC and tx out of Bitfinex.  Because seriously, who would want hold BTC a minute longer than needed on Bitfinex?   Thus there is more people who want to buy back their BT2 to tx out than the losers who got rekted, but refused to realize loss, and hoped that some S2X dev will copy-paste BCH's EDA and replay-protection, so that they can at least hope for a pump later.  
Aha, a Bitfinex thing. Now I see!
I always hoped (and suspected) the S2X fork would be called off, so I didn't even try to play any splitting trick with S2X and wasn't aware of how finex dealt with the issue. Thanks for the explanation.



265. Post 24534894 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 13, 2017, 09:52:45 PM
We need more throughput. It is that simple.
Right.

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We have segwit now, and it is not enough.
Of course it isn't. Segwit just makes a little additional blockchain space available. The throughput will come from L2/L3 solutions: Sidechains, Lightning Network, whatnots. A multitude of L2+ solutions can be at work at the same time. That's where I hope to see competition for new ideas - not on the basic protocol, which IMO should stay as resilient and lean as possible.

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If you have a better alternative than segwit+bigger blocks, feel free to share. Clonecoins would not even matter if we already had the benefit they chose to incorporate.
Just as an example of a better alternative, on this thread a few days ago someone posted a link to a new technology which could be plugged in at L2, just below LN and therefore pushing it to L3. It would allow opening multiple (shared) payment channels with a single blockchain transaction. The idea can be improved, but already as it is, it could significantly improve on the problem, rightfully bannered by Jbreher, of opening and closing a channel for every human on earth (impossible with 1 MB blocks. Or 2 MB, or 8 MB, for that matter).

It's not that I expect this particular gimmick to be the final solution, but it does show a lot of work is being done. A constellation of partial solutions can very well ease us into the L2 era. I think that's where the future is headed.



266. Post 24571262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: monsanto on November 14, 2017, 02:21:20 PM
https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/930436656045342720

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The head of that company has clarified that they made mistakes on the statement, as they are not a government administrative department, and have no rights to determine whether bitcoin mining is illegal

This guy tends to be accurate.

A post - rumor? - here a few weeks ago already talked about some electric co. in China shutting down energy supply to miners. Might have been Szechuan, though I'm not sure. Semi-old news used as fud/fomo tinder?



267. Post 24583219 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on November 14, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k
Gotta call Jimbo quick! Be kind.



268. Post 24584028 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 14, 2017, 06:18:54 PM
Maybe the odds for breaking upwards rather than downwards have shifted from about 53%, which would have been yesterday's assessment to about 56%, at the moment?  Am I missing something?
56.75% as of latest.
(Trying to keep a serious face. I can hold it as long as I please.)



269. Post 24584543 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 14, 2017, 06:29:05 PM
Maybe the odds for breaking upwards rather than downwards have shifted from about 53%, which would have been yesterday's assessment to about 56%, at the moment?  Am I missing something?
56.75% as of latest.
(Trying to keep a serious face. I can hold it as long as I please.)

I don't mind a bit more bullish assessment, but your assertion is OUTRAGOEOUS. (so much that I cannot even spell it.) and I think that you are just making shit up, just to tease and to cause us more bullish than reasonable....
You nasty rascal! My serious face was seriously compromised. Uh. OK, again. Last estimates rise to 56.83%!



270. Post 24584598 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on November 14, 2017, 06:32:03 PM
if you really want to buy cheaper btc....set buys up from $3300-$4100 this is the next price range its going to
Thanks. I got some limit buys a little over $4000, just in case.



271. Post 24670823 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 16, 2017, 06:11:59 AM
Bcash will get rekt followed by a BTC pump  Cheesy




Yikes.
How many coins are we talking?

3!
About right, if they sell late enough!  Grin



272. Post 24685524 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 16, 2017, 12:08:41 PM
God that Jim Cramer is such a 2-faced weasel. I hate that guy. Such a punchable face.

Jim Cramer on Bitcoin in 2013 (never forget!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEySHOd4JU

Jim Cramer on Bitcoin in 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POh0B79untE

He can't help it. A media person, you know. That's what they do for a living. The show must go on.



273. Post 24791968 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Strange pattern this weekend: lots of shilling by newbies or outright new accounts, but without the serious pump&dump action we are accustomed to.  Someone out of sync possibly?

On a related note, censoring jbreher's posts was less than wise IMO. He's still an apostate living out of the Grace of Bitcoin, but some of the points he makes contain enough thought to deserve discussion (and civilized flaming, including the occasional f'off).



274. Post 24792094 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 18, 2017, 02:01:06 PM
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

46000+ unconfirmed tx's... and only 20BTC in fees. Average of 3 cents per TX.... Sounds totally legit.
I wish someone with time and a few extra satoshis on their hands would bother to spend a couple of weekends spamming the BCH network, just for the demonstrative lulz.



275. Post 25039312 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: vroom on November 22, 2017, 06:05:57 PM
mempool spam *check
bch pump *check
tether/bitfinex fud *check
WO bears active *check
bitcointalk ddos *missing

get ready for bitcoin black friday sales, I see a bigger weekend dip coming! get them while they are cheap!
Ready!



276. Post 25082348 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 23, 2017, 02:03:32 PM
I know we shouldn't really talk about alts but what do you guys think about Monero? Wondering if i should snag some....
My opinion, based on general life considerations rather than actual financial analysis or pump'n'dump mechanics understanding: Monero has value and its price keeps climbing because it has real use cases. The anonimity it provides can't be matched by Bitcoin as it is now.

However, I think this gap will shrink and possibly shut off completely with L2 and L3 solutions. There are already 2 or 3 technology advances that promise to offer as much anonymity as any other coin. If (when?) that happens, I expect Monero to tank. That would be a medium term move - medium in crypto terms: I'm thinking months, not years. There should be ample time to get out of it gradually as it bleeds value back into Bitcoin.

I am no oracle. This is just my personal, biased opinion.



277. Post 25171955 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 25, 2017, 01:20:00 AM
I tender an additional item for your consideration. While many people have 'JOBs', others have careers. Meaningful work can be part of what makes life worth living. I'm just saying that there may be additional considerations more important than simply hitting the 'fuck you money' threshold.

(SNIP)
Sure, of course, there are other factors, too, but sooner or later, you are going to hit a kind of threshold that it does not make any sense to keep working.
Well, it depends. Imagine working to build schools for the unschooled in unlucky parts of our planet. Or developing drugs that can save lives. Or assessing wannabe porn stars. It's not only about the money.  



278. Post 25367549 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 28, 2017, 07:13:37 AM
This time I was much calmer. The day my Bitcoin stash was first worth over $1mCAD, I spent $1.2k on a new ultra-light powerful bass amp (bought with fiat) and had a few beverages.
Terribly OT, I know, but which ultra-light amp was that? I'm still looking for one that delivers, and I get little joy (power-wise) from my GK.



279. Post 25405811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Juvenile karma warriors babble new age mumbo-jumbo-jimbo while improperly addressing their very aware seniors.

Boys will be boys until they aren't. I feel mild about that anyway.

Corn approaching next power of ten - five figures helps with the mildness.

Various harmonious body parts quoted for posterity also help.

Here's for posterity.
Quote from: lightfoot on November 28, 2017, 11:47:43 PM




280. Post 25443421 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: itod on November 29, 2017, 04:08:29 PM
Just got an email from Xapo:

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Hi xxx,

As we informed you in previous communications, we are approaching the December 14th deadline in which you’ll need to convert your Bitcoin Cash (BCH) balance that was generated during the August 1st fork to BTC.

Our Terms of Use clearly state that the only digital currency supported by Xapo is Bitcoin (BTC). If you want to store, transfer and/or use any cryptocurrency other than Bitcoin, you cannot do so through the Xapo Services. If, as a consequence of a “fork” (as such term is commonly known in the bitcoin industry), Bitcoin holders are granted with equivalent or proportional amount of the new digital currency or values that are not Bitcoin, Xapo shall not have any obligation, whatsoever, in connection to such new digital currency or value.
(SNIP)

Rekt.
They lost my custom for their BCH/S2X support. Are they turning their cloak now that they see failure?



281. Post 25444839 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 29, 2017, 02:14:08 PM
So I was just referred to Bitclub by someone I trade bitcoin with in meat space, says he was introduced to it through his father who is some kind of business person who knows the owners personally. I have no reason to doubt he believes what he told me, but even so, anyone know anything about it? Safe(ish) to invest in?
The way I see it, cloud mining is a flawed business model (for the subscribers, not for the sellers).
If mining is indeed profitable, why should they sell a slice of their profit for a fair price?
Either the price is unfair, or it is just a scam.

Of course, they might be selling shares of the mining profit for fiat money immediately needed for maintenance, or for acquiring new gear and so on, but it's a very long shot. I'd imagine they should have their cash flow under check if they're so successful. And I've never heard of current mining gear being sold on credit. On the contrary, it is usually paid before delivery - often much too long before delivery.

TL;DR I reckon you'd be better off investing your subscription fee directly in bitcoin.



282. Post 25446699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

I'm liking this correction a lot. Small enough until now not to be a source of worry, but significant enough to paint a thin layer of reality over our breathtaking bull run. It does look more legit now, doesn't it?



283. Post 25490318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on November 30, 2017, 11:26:46 AM

3) Have Emily Ratajkowski as your wife. Put up with her body and her shit for the rest of your life with no option for divorce, ever.


Pretty girl no doubt, but beauty never lasts forever. And even if it did, the average male mammal needs change at least once in a while. Ever felt abnormal desire for a woman, even if she's objectively less attractive than your wife/gf? I know I did. Uh, I mean, I do.

So if I had to choose a millionaire's dream, the only choice that would make sense for me in that slot would be

3) be able to pick a woman of the month (or in moderation: of the semester) from a panel of candidates guaranteed to contain at least one or two you consider quite attractive - even if not incredibly so as Emily or Miss Prettybutt (thanks, Lightfoot).

EDIT: Here's for posterity and reference.
Quote from: lightfoot on November 28, 2017, 11:47:43 PM




284. Post 25491067 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: True Myth on November 30, 2017, 01:18:50 PM

3) Have Emily Ratajkowski as your wife. Put up with her body and her shit for the rest of your life with no option for divorce, ever.


Pretty girl no doubt, but beauty never lasts forever. And even if it did, the average male mammal needs change at least once in a while. Ever felt abnormal desire for a woman, even if she's objectively less attractive than your wife/gf? I know I did. Uh, I mean, I do.

So if I had to choose a millionaire's dream, the only choice that would make sense for me in that slot would be

3) be able to pick a woman of the month (or in moderation: of the semester) from a panel of candidates guaranteed to contain at least one or two you consider quite attractive - even if not incredibly so as Emily or Miss Prettybutt (thanks, Lightfoot).

Now you're just being greedy!
Some greed is good, confirmed sources tell me.



285. Post 25491144 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Torque on November 30, 2017, 01:28:27 PM
Not to sound bearish, but looking at the charts it's clear that the pump started in earnest on 11/24 @ ~$8200.

So we could end up revisiting that level at some point. Which would still be healthy and wouldn't end this upward trajectory.

Also, the conspirator in me says that the pumpers planned to dump ahead of The Big Bang Theory episode. I guess they don't want 3M new Average Joes to jump in to bitcoin. Got to keep them far away.
Got my buy orders ready to roll. Jimbooooo, you woke up yet?   Grin



286. Post 25491457 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

We're running into outlandishly OT territory. I hope the mod doesn't mind that much, but I have to remind my good friends of serious issues.

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on November 30, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
To me she looks like she´s got a kick into her face, fat lip and all. No, she´s cool, but this is a beauty contest, no ?
And Salma Hayek has to big boobs.
Sorry, girls !

Salma Hayek runs in the MILF/GILF category. She's 51. Still quite shapely, don't mean no offense, ma'am, I mean I could make time for you one of these weekends but... sorry, Salma!



287. Post 25579927 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: David48l on December 01, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
Being more than half spam because I can not find a single transaction with a really low rate? Excuse my ignorance
It's not more than half spam.
It's less than half wit.

Maybe ask mom and dad to put on that funny colorful video on YouTube.
This forum is for the grown-ups, you see.

Now to bed, good boy!
Shall we risk another no-pampers night? My little man will manage eh?
Or will it turn into a stinky mess like last Sunday?

Don't bother replying. I won't be able to read your post, unfortunately.



288. Post 25612341 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 02, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
I have a room filled with miners that is actually quite hot. Pretty sure you could run a sauna on miners in the summer months.
Or a grow room with (cold) LED lights in the winter!

Quote from: gentlemand on December 02, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
I sleep in it sometimes too because I like lingering inside the noise. They actually help me fall asleep and stop me from waking up randomly.

You win the Bitcoiner of the month award.
Hehe, a fairly uniform noise without bursts or similar transients actually helps several people in getting and staying asleep, including children with troubled sleep patterns. I used to prepare custom soundscape CDs for my nephews when they were wakeful toddlers.



289. Post 25667369 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: player99 on December 03, 2017, 11:35:49 AM
Really? REALLY???

US Senate Bill S.1241 to Criminalize Concealed Ownership of Bitcoin

https://btcmanager.com/us-senate-bill-s-1241-criminalize-concealed-ownership-bitcoin/
I don't know what to make of it, but it doesn't seem irrelevant.
Anyone share their thoughts?



290. Post 25675256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 03, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
(SNIP)
it's not actually possible to create a decentralized digital currency, rendering every single cryptocurrency released as having zero fundamentals, and thus having no value.
(SNIP)
The Jew bankers and overlords like Ben Bernanke and
(SNIP)
try and prevent people from buying metals
(SNIP)
Hiya Roach, missing a few beats? Long time without a reference to rent-seeking usury schemes.



291. Post 25683356 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 03, 2017, 07:01:29 PM
Anyone thought through the game-theory of buying and HODLing the CME Futures the day they are issued ? I'm thinking it's only going to go up - long - as soon as it's issued.

Was thinking of re-allocating $250k in a retirement portfolio...

Here's an interesting post from infofront that provides some food for thought.

Quote from: infofront on December 03, 2017, 12:55:56 AM
I got this from another thread. It was originally posted by someone on /r/bitcoin:

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I thought I’d share some of my stock market knowledge to help my fellow HODLers get a perspective on the CME futures that will be launching soon.
First let me explain a bit of history: in 1982 CME group launched futures on the S&P500.
What happened next? The stock market went on a spectacular run for 5 years until it eventually crashed in 1987.
Why does this matter for Bitcoin? Because I believe a similar story is about to unfold. This story is the fundamental story about adding leverage to a new underlying asset.
Bitcoin is a relatively “unleveraged” asset as compared to other financial assets. It’s new, it’s untainted. This is significant because of the mechanics of market prices and the future potential of market prices.

When something enters a levering stage, like Bitcoin is about to, the mechanics of the market are HEAVILY weighted to the buy side and not the sell side. Why? Because to be a seller you MUST be a previous buyer (or if you’re shorting, the supply comes from a previous buyer). This may sound weird, but the potential capacity to sell is a function of those who previously bought. This is why in an early market like Bitcoin it’s very hard for it to consistently fall as there’s not a lot of buyers yet built into the price. It takes years and years of accumulation and volatility to create a normalized market. When it’s new, especially pre leverage, it’s very easy to bid it up.
When the CME futures are added, it will likely lead to spectacular rallies, but you need to arm yourself with the knowledge that the eventual buying will plant the seeds of the future capacity to panic.

This is what happened in 1987: The stock market had a 3 day wipeout of over 22%. It took 5 years to develop the buy side enough to create the conditions for panic. This was caused by the CME futures in 1982.
Even since 1987, there has never been a crash of similar magnitude, because that initial levering stage was eventually normalized and a healthy market now exists on both bid side and ask side (sell side).

Why do I tell you this? I want to arm you with expectations to keep your wits when it all goes down. The crash on Bitcoin will likely be of many magnitudes deadlier than the stock market. We just had a 29% correction and it was frankly less than the last two. 20-40% corrections are standard in Bitcoin. When we have the futures levered crash, it’ll likely be 50-60%+. This will be hard on your psychological commitment. Prices do funny things to people’s perception, just like how BCH rose and now suddenly everyone thinks it’s a BTC contender. (Nothing’s changed, price was just pumped up and psychology affected.)

So first thing: prepare for that eventual crash, I suspect it’ll take 1-3 years to create the conditions for an extreme sell side due to leveraging. This sell will start and accelerate, hitting stop losses and margin calls, which is “mechanical selling”. The mechanical selling (forced selling) will cascade and create a feedback loop where more margin calls are hit, more stop losses, etc etc until almost all profits of the last year or 2 are wiped. Combined with the emotional panic caused by extreme falling prices, it will make people think Bitcoin isn’t real and abandon it.

Next thing: the 1987 crash, while devastating in many ways, was completely recovered by the stock market in 8 months. Seriously! The worst crash ever was repaired in 8 months and the market has been much more healthy since then. It is up dramatically since those days, and that crash was just a blip on the screen.
The same will happen with Bitcoin, but my fear is that crash will be worse than even wallsteeters can handle, and it may shake you HODLers to the core.
But if you understand that the powerful selling is just a function of the leveraged previous buying, it’s just fundamentally an opportunity.
I will ride this hard as we lever up, and after an extreme period of euphoria, when Bitcoin is on every front page, when every HODLer owns a mansion, when your government-loving socialist neighbour is asking for your help converting money to Bitcoin, I’ll be lightening up heavily, waiting for the crash. I will bet everything at the bottom of the crash, and sail off into the sunset a crypto-god.

Good luck guys. I hope you weather the next 1-3 years with great savvy.



292. Post 25699160 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 03, 2017, 11:24:10 PM
You can sell naked calls without the underlying asset with enough collateral / capital.

Naked calls on bitcoin?  Define “enough collateral”.  
20% of the nominal value?
The way I understand the rules, there's a daily +/- 20% hard limit before trading stops, and the positions are regulated daily.



293. Post 25725817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 04, 2017, 03:38:32 AM
You can sell naked calls without the underlying asset with enough collateral / capital.

Naked calls on bitcoin?  Define “enough collateral”.  
20% of the nominal value?
The way I understand the rules, there's a daily +/- 20% hard limit before trading stops, and the positions are regulated daily.

As I understand it, the 20% limit only applies to the daily market. Not sure what happens in the overnight market. 
I thought CME was only planning daytime trading for the time being. I might be wrong, though. Honestly, I haven't read the documentation with great care.



294. Post 25818997 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Dharnchuks on December 06, 2017, 12:01:16 AM
How does paper wallet work? Just hearing of it for the first time.

It depends on your inclinations. Here are two popular alternatives.




295. Post 25821124 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: toknormal on December 06, 2017, 01:33:07 AM





This should be spread among all hodlers. Not to spread FUD, but to inform everybody about it.

The sharks are pumping the price right now. Just hodl it.


Indeed.

It wasn't my intention to spread FUD. Rather to make people aware of the manipulation they're about to be exposed to. The only way to combat it is to decouple the behaviour of the cash and futures markets as much as possible.

The only way to do that if for people to *want* to hold bitcoin the asset as opposed to bitcoin the derivative or USD cash. That means they'll need to resist the tendency to value BTC in terms of fiat currencies and instead value it for its utility, store of value and future-proofing qualities.

i.e. hold through-ought dips and crashes.
Of course. Extreme case: with everyone keeping their bitcoins and never selling, the Wall Street sharks can't buy "real" bitcoin, so their profits can only come on the derivatives side. For example, when they short massively, they can gain on cash-settled futures if the price goes down - provided there's a sucker who's longing those futures. If no hodler engages in derivatives trading, the sucker would be some trader - possibly another Wall street shark on the other side.

The logical question then is: what can a minnow do apart from hodling? Is there a way to benefit from swings in the derivatives market without touching one's btc stash?



296. Post 25821357 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Heater on December 06, 2017, 01:51:44 AM

<FUD deleted>



This should be spread among all hodlers. Not to spread FUD, but to inform everybody about it.

The sharks are pumping the price right now. Just hodl it.


Indeed.

It wasn't my intention to spread FUD. Rather to make people aware of the manipulation they're about to be exposed to. The only way to combat it is to decouple the behaviour of the cash and futures markets as much as possible.

The only way to do that if for people to *want* to hold bitcoin the asset as opposed to bitcoin the derivative or USD cash. That means they'll need to resist the tendency to value BTC in terms of fiat currencies and instead value it for its utility, store of value and future-proofing qualities.

i.e. hold through-ought dips and crashes.

My head hurts after reading this.

a) If you honestly believe this FUD crap you should put your money where your mouth is and short bitcoin & buy the dip.
b) Otherwise, shut up and stop spreading stupid FUD.

If you spread FUD, I assume it's A.


It doesn't necessarily look like FUD to me. It could be construed as neutral speculation on what's going to happen next. Actually, that's how I'm receiving it. The summary of the quoted posts could be briefly phrased as "hodl for dear life."

I'm trying to understand if there's a better strategy that exploits the opponent's strength at one's advantage, like financial Aikido for hodlers. So I was stirring discussion, hoping to elicit informed, intelligent replies from savvy forum dwellers.

Incidentally, I think that the scenario depicted by the "FUD" (which, I repeat, doesn't look like FUD to me) is a medium term one. At first, naked shorting without a substantial hard underlying hedge (real btc in hand) can be too risky even for sharks.



297. Post 25853894 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 06, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
(SNIP)
So, who here heeds Bitcoin investing advice from a crusty old
white haired Morgan Stanley fuddy duddy? (Who's last name is Roach btw,lol)
Um.....not me!.....

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/04/bitcoin-is-a-dangerous-speculative-bubble-yale-expert-says.html
(SNIP)

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You want to know what is scary? Two weeks ago my sister’s former boyfriend, a private soldier that left school at sixteen, started gushing enthusiastically about bitcoin and about how he had made fifty euro on his investment over the past three weeks. I started to feel sick in the pit of my stomach

The latter block isn't the "widely regarded economist" (and Morgan Stanley minion) Stephen Roach, or at least I couldn't find the excerpt in the linked page. Where is that from?

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 06, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
They just love to trot out the Mike Tyson argument. Snobby fucks.
I don't know about that. What's the Mike Tyson argument?



298. Post 25914144 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 06, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
They just love to trot out the Mike Tyson argument. Snobby fucks.
I don't know about that. What's the Mike Tyson argument?


Back when Mike Tyson was getting into Bitcoin, that signalled it was time to sell. Because let's face it, he ain't no Alfred Einstein. Same same. If strippers are getting in, must be time to sell. Because let's face it...

Whatever. This is why I purposefully avoid all MSM on the subject. Sour grapes and elitist muttering. I'm too old for it.
Ahh, I see, thanks. It's like Wall Street people saying it is a confirmed bubble when taxi drivers give out stock market advice.



299. Post 26042520 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 09, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
setting up buy orders in the low 3Ks
Low 3Ks? Isn't that a tad too optimistic?



300. Post 26044964 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Punisher13142 on December 09, 2017, 06:15:05 PM
Bears having a fast picnic, just before the storm comes in and they went fully rekted. I think it is better a correction now rather than tomorrow. Wall street won't like to start shorting with all these red candles taking their positions the day before they wanted to.
I'm not really sure Wall Street wants to start naked (or scantily clad) shorting right away. Well, we'll see soon enough.



301. Post 26081363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 10, 2017, 12:36:23 AM

This is nonsense for a very simple reason. If there is gold price increase there wr

Agree. The only valid use case I can think of would be a whale protecting their position at the top of the market when they know they have a large fiat expense coming up (eg tax) and they don't want to cash out yet. The problem is they can't use BTC to underwrite the trade (it has to be Fiat) so it's useless even for simple hedging.

Tone's recent interview with Ugly Goat explains the whole scenario well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUEfZY4zRk



CBOE rules allow the futures to be linked to trades of underlying positions held on Gemini, called an “Exchange of Contract for Underlying Position”.  So you can trade BTC on Gemini for BTC futures on CBOE.  And you can sell your future for real bitcoin.  


Thank
Does Gemini allow margin trading (shorts)?
In other words, can the underlying position on Gemini be short too, or can it only be long?



302. Post 26096390 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: vroom on December 10, 2017, 05:11:49 PM
In germany a court recently allowed banks to collect negative interest for savings from their customers. It's like they are forcing us to buy bitcoin.

source: I only find german sources: http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/service/kleinsparer-gericht-haelt-negativzinsen-bei-neuvertraegen-fuer-zulaessig-a-1182416.html
No bank run yet?  Huh



303. Post 26117750 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: cableiso on December 11, 2017, 04:09:44 AM
Right now the Jan futures have 1.6K of volume. Why would the price be arbed there? Weve never arbed to GBTC either.

Gbtc is not a contract that you can deliver on.  Buy 5btc from an exchange at 16K and sell a cboe contract at 18K.  You made 10K.  If price falls, buy cheaper btc and deliver those to the contract.  If price rises above 18K, well - your gain is fixed at 10K but people do a lot more work for less money.

This will push all exchange prices to track the futures price.  If there is a discrepancy in the cost of the real market vs the futures market, bots will arb it out.

But what if the futures market doesn't have enough liquidity?
Or if it has clamped variation?
I think any arbitrage plan can break down due to these extra factors.



304. Post 26170843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 12, 2017, 12:11:17 AM
Did we just double top? Isn't that bad?
It looks like sideways-downward. A small dip incoming maybe? Ready for reasonably priced corn (not really cheap, it seems).



305. Post 26173180 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Icygreen on December 12, 2017, 01:50:28 AM
Haha, Roger says it costs $50 to send a $20 transaction. More lies and deception.
I would have loved the interviewer to call BCH "Bcash" just to hear Ver going berserk on the chick  Grin



306. Post 26269413 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 13, 2017, 06:30:12 PM
If any market makers are listening, another $500 and I panic and start to sell.
Me too, me too.

But to really sell off everything, I will need to see the price get a little below 10K. I already set up panic limit sell orders, honest!



307. Post 26269832 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 13, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
If any market makers are listening, another $500 and I panic and start to sell.
Me too, me too.

But to really sell off everything, I will need to see the price get a little below 10K. I already set up panic limit sell orders, honest!

R U trolling me?
Who me? I'm dead serious! I would never troll you!

[hey... psst... psst, Rosewater? It's not you I'm trolling. It's the market makers!]



308. Post 26272623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 13, 2017, 08:44:58 PM
What an adorable correction...

I wonder if mama bear is around?


No she’s gone for a walk with baby bear and papa bear while they wait for their porridge to cool down.
They'd better mind their cubs. Honey badger don't mind some baby bear steak once in a while.



309. Post 26322993 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 14, 2017, 03:55:21 PM
https://news.bitcoin.com/after-segwit2x-failed-jeff-garzik-reveals-united-bitcoin/

More on United Bitcoin, your new favourite fork.

You're only awarded them if your BTC transferred between addresses you own between November 11th and a couple of days ago. They didn't tell anyone this until after the fork. So most of you peons are officially 'inactive' and therefore toast.

http://www.ub.com/project/get


Eligibility

All users who transfer Bitcoins from his/her own address to his/her own address between Block 494000 and Block 498777 (11 November 2017 to 12 December 2017 GMT) will be eligible if the transaction meets the following criteria.

The output address (receiving address) must also be listed as one of the input addresses and cannot be a totally new address
The output address (receiving address) must end up with a balance of more than 0.01 BTC
If you are not sure if the operation is complete, please make two transfers.


How deeply mysterious that they only outlined this after the fork.
Mysterious you say?
If I were Ver, I'd definitely want a forkcoin that my enemies can't dump on me. All P&D games will be reserved for people in the know.



310. Post 26404927 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Gab0 on December 16, 2017, 12:32:53 AM
I do not know if I'm right, but I've read that the eth network processes twice as many tx
If you don/t understand the technicals, you might as well refrain fro postig. This is a matter for engineers, nor for vocal users.



311. Post 26405604 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: erre on December 16, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
Bigger blocks are just an inelegant solution and I don't approve that, but we need to start segwitting or lightening or whatever asap. And to identify spam sources in order to stop them. I would like to see more discussions about this..
Problem is, in a censorship-free network such as bitcoin means to be, it's a thin line to tell spam from legit.



312. Post 26500045 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 17, 2017, 05:13:59 PM
I only make about 1  transaction a week on average. It makes absolutely no sense for me to open up a LN channel. Furthermore, opening up a channel subjects me to a counterparty risk. The other party could transmit an earlier, more favorable tx to the blockchain and rip me off. Yes, if I catch the other party in time, I can invoke a penalty. However, this involves ensuring my Lightning Node is online 24/7 or enlisting a third party to monitor for me. Seems like a malicious hub could invoke DDOS attacks on vulnerable channels and known third party monitors effectively knocking them all offline and hightailing it with lots of BTC.
We will probably be able to enlist third party patrols and pay then with a part of the penalty/reward - which amounts to the FULL CHANNEL value! This is a strong incentive for would-be patrols. All it takes is ONE such guy to spot a cheating transactions and the thief is done. It's not like an individual patrol must keep its rig online 24/7. I think there will be very little cheating. It's way too risky for the perpetrator.



313. Post 26500410 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 17, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.



314. Post 26502586 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 17, 2017, 06:05:41 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.
This is the price to pay for instant transactions (no onchain confirmation), but I'd say LN's anti-cheating mechanism is near perfect. Anyone who spots a cheating transaction within 24 hours (I think - or was it 48?) of its timestamp can give the cheaters what they deserve and pocket a handsome reward. My bet is the network will be swarming with bounty hunters.



315. Post 26508213 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 17, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.
This is the price to pay for instant transactions (no onchain confirmation), but I'd say LN's anti-cheating mechanism is near perfect. Anyone who spots a cheating transaction within 24 hours (I think - or was it 48?) of its timestamp can give the cheaters what they deserve and pocket a handsome reward. My bet is the network will be swarming with bounty hunters.

So the system that must allow us, average Joe 's to use BTC as money for everyday spending needs bounty hunters to avoid cheating?
Short reply: Yes - just as the system that currently allows us to use BTC for not-everyday spending needs full nodes and miners and lots of electrical power.

Elaborating more. LN might need bounty hunters just to make sure every cheating attempt makes the "cheated" part end in profit (as well as the bounty hunter). I think the way it will work is that you open a channel with Starbucks, or Amazon, or some other reputable entity who has no interest at all in being labeled as a provable fraud (the cheat requires settling the channel on the blockchain, where it will be there for all to see forever). I guess most people who run full nodes will start a Lightning hub on the side, if it is even marginally profitable. There willl probably be blacklists and feedback scores for Average Joes who want to invest in facilitating channel opening without being Starbucks.

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Why not ask the FBI or any of the alphabet agencies, they will be glad to do so... . I do not believe we need this kind of system... .
You're answering yourself. We don't need alphabet agencies for that. That's why not.

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Moreover, the hunter easily becomes the cheater in this kind of arrangements... .
Have you read some documentation on how LN works? I don't mean the full technical spec - that's a lot and it requires a highly degree of techno competence in crypto. There was a good, accurate but simple explanation that I can't locate right now. Maybe reading that could help you feel more at ease. Now if someone could be so kind to link a suitable web page...

EDIT - found a good source. Here it is.
https://coinjournal.net/a-simple-explanation-of-the-lightning-network/
Let's get back to the discussion when you have a more detailed understanding of how LN works.





316. Post 26508608 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 17, 2017, 08:35:19 PM

Why would a system that allows cheating be needed?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Unless you meant LN is a system that allow cheating. Well, with LN you can give a try at cheating, but only if you have a stake (a channel open) and you are ready to risk the whole stake should your cheat fail.

Yes that is what I meant. So LN is intended to allow small payments, at low cost, that do not overload the base of the network. The most important feature of the base is tht it is trustless, so uncheatable. This is a bit difficult for me.
This is the price to pay for instant transactions (no onchain confirmation), but I'd say LN's anti-cheating mechanism is near perfect. Anyone who spots a cheating transaction within 24 hours (I think - or was it 48?) of its timestamp can give the cheaters what they deserve and pocket a handsome reward. My bet is the network will be swarming with bounty hunters.

So the system that must allow us, average Joe 's to use BTC as money for everyday spending needs bounty hunters to avoid cheating?
Short reply: Yes - just as the system that currently allows us to use BTC for not-everyday spending needs full nodes and miners and lots of electrical power.

Elaborating more. LN might need bounty hunters just to make sure every cheating attempt maked the "cheated" part end in profit (as well as the bounty hunter). I think the way it will work is that you open a channel with Starbucks, or Amazon, or some other reputable entity who has no interest at all in being labeled as a provable fraud (the cheat requires settling the channel on the blockchain, where it will be there for all to see forever). I guess most people who run full nodes will start a Lightning hub on the side, if it is even marginally profitable. There willl probably be blacklists and feedback scores for Average Joes who want to invest in facilitating channel opening without being Starbucks.

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Why not ask the FBI or any of the alphabet agencies, they will be glad to do so... . I do not believe we need this kind of system... .
You're answering yourself. We don't need alphabet agencies for that. That's why not.

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Moreover, the hunter easily becomes the cheater in this kind of arrangements... .
Have you read some documentation on how LN works? I don't mean the full technical spec - that's a lot and it requires a highly degree of techno competence in crypto. There was a good, accurate but simple explanation that I can't locate right now. Maybe reading that could help you feel more at ease. Now if anyone would be so kind to link a suitable web page...





Thanks for the extra info and I will be glad to read the laymans explanation.
I am always sceptical towards solutions that tend to be more complicated than the problem. And as far as it concerns broad adoption, that is the single most important aspect.

About the system, I meant we do not need a system that needs policing of any kind.
Edited my prevous post - I found a good source that explains LN in detailed, accurate but simple terms.
https://coinjournal.net/a-simple-explanation-of-the-lightning-network/



317. Post 26508874 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: mfort312 on December 17, 2017, 08:28:38 PM
I agree, spamming is a problem and I don't know if anything clever can be done to abate in the near term.
Keeping spam at bay would be much easier if Bitcoin wasn't designed to be censorship resistant. Deciding "this transaction here is spam, that over there is legit" is indeed an acto f censorship.

I don't know if there's an effective solution, but I have a hunch that if there is one, it's going to require some very clever game theory with deferred rewards and similar tricks - and it will work only assuming it's a big mining cartel that spams, not some other actor. An entity with deep pockets and willing to pay through the nose will always be able to spam the blockchain.



318. Post 26514845 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: nikauforest on December 17, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
A potential flaw in Lightning is the cost to open and close a channel. The fees are high enough that the average user might find it difficult to get onto payment channels. ALso the motivation to do so by the time they roll it out might not be there.
Indeed, that is the crux with lightning: the cost to open/close a channel. Or equivalently, the blockchain space.
However, channels can be kept open indefinitely. No need to close them if you don't have to cash out and just re-use those new incoming btc for new expenses. The way things are now, re-funding a channel also involves a blockchain transaction.

However, and it's a big however IMO, this kind of issues is already being addressed. I am aware of at least one possible solution that allows multiple channels to be opened together, with one single transactions (and closed too? I'm not sure about that, gotta find the source again). Of course the opening wouldn't be immediate, as the system must find the required number of participants to share the blockchain fee. It's a  mechanism akin to coinjoin, with extra crypto to secure the joining/unjoining steps.

The bottom line is: once L2 really starts working and gets acceptance, there are several technical tricks that can be played to squeeze utility out of it, significantly limiting recourse to L1 (the base blockchain). Ideally, such L1 transactions would only be used in special cases, when really necessary.

Enduring transaction costs such as the current ones hurts. It hurts me too, to the point that I chose traditional banking over bitcoin for some of my smaller recent transactions. However, after some research, I am an informed optimist.



319. Post 26521770 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 18, 2017, 03:43:32 AM
Can you say checkmate?
Checkmate.
We all know.
Crypto is done.
The corn is dead.
Blame on the Jews.
Decent summary eh?
So no need for you to repeat.
(That would be in a perfect world.)



320. Post 26521840 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 18, 2017, 03:45:50 AM
Random thought. Do you think if we had a more sophisticated name less people would have thought it was a scam and took it seriously? And consequently we might not have got cheap coins? Like if it was a cool acronym for decentralized permissionless censorship-resistant cryptographically-secure asset, more people would have got the idea? I mean technically there are no actual coins.

Alternatively, if it had been called ScamWowMoneyButton, would it have made any kind of difference?

/random though
Would a rose smell less sweeeeet by any other name?
I think 'Sweetcorn' would have been cooler than DUTOV (Decentralized Uncensorable Transfer Of Value).



321. Post 26522508 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Wow, some juicy details add a thrilling gust of fresh air to your lines! This deserves a quasi-normal response.

Quote from: realr0ach on December 18, 2017, 04:02:50 AM
For example, if you can just put a miner on cruise control and collect payments from it while not actually doing any type of work yourself, this works out to be roughly the same thing as collecting interest and we all know how compound interest spirals out of control.  So you can then parlay all your interest into continuous expansion until complete monopoly (which is what many of these miners have done).
Mining has eventual low, uniform profit per unit of (hardware $  + energy $). Both hardware and energy markets are seriously skewed, that's what allows monopolies. Once the hardware market levels out, the energy market will find its way with optimal offshore relocations of the actual farms. Or solar power, you can figure it out probably.


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To prevent this compound interest effect, you would need to do something like require miners to do physical labor (solve captchas) for the block reward so they can't continuously expand.
The problem you encounter here is that...you can create bots to solve the captchas for you, and you're right back to square one again and have fixed nothing.  The system always turns into slum lords collecting money for nothing through a monopoly.
No, Roach. Some details are still off. Bots won't cut the mustard. Captchas are for humans, you see. In my version, once a block captcha is flunked, the nodes reject that particular block nonce forever, so the slum lord will need real human slaves to make sure no (hardware $ + energy $) is lost to the feeble competition.

Come on, elaborate a little better. The slaves could be found... where could the average Jew find some decent slaves that more or less work without dying on you after a few months?



322. Post 26522621 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: windjc on December 18, 2017, 04:05:58 AM


blah blah blah blah blah

^^^ This person dedicates literally hours a day, hundreds of hours a month and thousands of hours a year discussing a topic that he despises. Now, I ask you, what kind of a person would do this and what kind of a life outside of this forum might such a person have?

Now, if this is the type of life or person you would like to be, then you should listen to everything he says. Because, we become who we listen to.
I find his posts less annoying than some other member's. Besides, they're easy to skip on sight.

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Of course that is why I have him on ignore.
I like to be reminded about the less lucky sometimes. It keeps my pride in check.



323. Post 26545969 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 18, 2017, 04:48:37 AM
Mining has eventual low, uniform profit per unit of (hardware $  + energy $). Both hardware and energy markets are seriously skewed, that's what allows monopolies.

No, there's absolutely no reason this paradigm will ever change because technology that exists is just a reflection of asymmetric intelligence distribution of humans,
Or asymmetric resource distribution before the roll of the dice (Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel explains this nicely), but whatever. No matter if it's genetics or environmental luck.

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You're basically pretending a bunch of peons can crowd source a bitcoin miner better than intel can build, or that commodification of ASICs is inevitable when it's obviously not.
A bunch of peons or an aggressive startup company. Crowd source or reverse engineer, minus the research costs.  Greed is great fuel. And it needn't be better. All it has to be is "as cost effective as" under some assumptions.

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There is no incentive to sell a money printing machine for less or equal money than it would make you unless the goal is simply to put on a ruse
...or avoid entrepreneurial risk (China bans miners for the umpteenth time!) or management overhead. Or it's simply that you are in a different line of business (designing and selling hardware) and don't care about the paltry, diminishing returns given how much time and effort it would cost you.

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Let's also not forget that in adversarial mining you can automatically eliminate your rivals simply by having larger hash power.
The law of big numbers will attribute to each actor a revenue proportional to the hashing power - with a certain threshold to "get in the game" in the first place. It's not a 0/1, winner-takes-it-all game.

When you're not savagely ranting and try to articulate human-shaped phrases, replying to your posts point by point is possible indeed! I think I managed. However, it is a taxing endeavour and I can't let it become a full time job. Bring new concepts to the discussion and I might reply again.

P.S. It's not too late. You can STILL get into Bitcoin, unless the pirates stole all your silver and gold while you were "trustlessly, effectively, cheaply" moving it from the Goblin Bank to your underground bunker.



324. Post 26600646 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 19, 2017, 11:09:33 AM
Edit: bounced off of $17,800 (talking about Stamp), and now back to $18,300..... Bottom is in, perhaps? 
It is no bottom until the official "Who sold at the bottom?" post.



325. Post 26615363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 19, 2017, 01:29:09 AM
I think it may be time for some retaliation attacks against Wu and Antpool who have demonstrably become malicious miners, attacking the bitcoin network.

They are withholding blocks, spamming the network to drive up fees and being a general nuisance to the point that if they were excluded from the mining network it would do more good than harm to bitcoin. They are doing everything in their power to subvert the network, without performing the 51% attack which they may actually be capable of.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/

In short, someone needs to fuck these guys over seriously. It's well past time.
Agreed, but how? Do you have any hints for would-be avengers?



326. Post 26624561 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 19, 2017, 08:14:47 PM
In all seriousness, what the hell happened last night? We're over 1000 down from when I went to bed. Or is that just the kind of fluctuations we have now?

shake shake shake
Shake it up baby
c'mon c'mon c'mon baby now
come on and work it on out!

Hope they keep shaking just a little bit more. My conservative buy orders haven't been hit yet.



327. Post 26625102 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: somac. on December 19, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
What the hell, I wake up and BTC is down to the 17s and all the alts are up. What happened?


Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 19, 2017, 08:14:47 PM
shake shake shake



328. Post 26625351 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: somac. on December 19, 2017, 08:54:14 PM
I like core, but damn, something needs to be done about those fees.
The bitcoin spam problem seems intractable or very hard to attack. There might be some heuristic based approximate solution, but I don't see it at the horizon yet. I hope it's just me.

On the other hand, a 50k contract or two could help. Allright, make it two 5 BTC contracts.



329. Post 26626535 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

First buy order hit!
Now just a little more, please.
Oh, by the way...
JIMBOOOOO!!! To the ATM, rush!!!
(buying commission must be pretty low too)



330. Post 26627725 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

17k is basically holding.  It looks like a strong support area.  I can't begin to imagine how much it costs to move the price down as they just did.  Does anyone have statistics to offer - like number of coins dumped, or a similar metric?



331. Post 26629541 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 19, 2017, 10:35:35 PM
Since we broke through the 17k support I don't think the bottom is in yet.  

My second buy order - a little less conservative - hasn't been hit yet.
(Gently prodding with a stick) Just a little more, will you pretty please?



332. Post 26634594 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: TReano on December 20, 2017, 01:10:12 AM
Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...

You two sound like Abbott & Costello. But your lines are a little stale.
Inject some more humour in what you say, or an animal fury like Roach, or a peculiar writing style.
Think something up, and I won't add you both to my ignore list.



333. Post 26634799 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll? The $22k-$24k range is missing.



334. Post 26635144 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 20, 2017, 01:32:49 AM
How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll ?

The $22k-$24k
range
is
missing .


Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
Ah. Maybe my post will stand out more and get noticed?



335. Post 26696828 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 21, 2017, 01:46:41 AM
We need to break the mining monopoly.  Miners would not be able to afford stunts like this if mining was not monopolized.

Of course you can imagine how the miners would fuck you over with Bcash if it ever got popular.
This has nothing to do with a mining monopoly. Limited space, lots of people, slots go to the highest bidder. What would be better, random choices of what goes into the block, or bigger blocks which is called um... btrash.

I think monopoly does have to do with it. Miners would be wary to spam if uncertain about who takes the mining fees, as in 1/n uncertain (assuming n independent mining pools of roughly equal hashpower).

So my opinion is: more competition is what we need. A miner in every bitcoin-aware home, as suggested by our resident star BobLabLaw.



336. Post 26696893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Oh and by the way, now that we're going sideways and things have slowed down, I'll try again to vote 23k for our Dec 31 prediction poll.

Oops, I still can't!  Grin

Quote from: d_eddie on December 20, 2017, 01:43:13 AM
How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll ?

The $22k-$24k
range
is
missing .


Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
Ah. Maybe my post will stand out more and get noticed?



337. Post 26795410 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Hello micgoossens
thanks for the new game!

For going past 24777$, I pick January 4th 2018

I would have said January 7th, but ghandhi beat me to it.
But I think the ATH around 20k will be even before that - something like Dec 29th!



Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


27/12/2017 bikerleszno
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
05/12/2017 BTCMILLIONAIRE
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
08/01/2018 savetherainforrest
09/01/2018 explorer
10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho
11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire
12/01/2018 speedwheel
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
16/01/2018 maca068
17/01/2018 bitcoinvest
18/01/2018 last of the v8s
19/01/2018 mfort312
20/01/2018 1982dre
21/01/2018 flamast2
22/01/2018 RealMachasm
23/01/2018 willope
24/01/2018 kartala
25/01/2018 orpington
26/01/2018 rolling
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
29/01/2018 CristiTCM
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
02/02/2018 mancroofer
03/02/2018 True Myth
07/02/2018 vapourminer
08/02/2018 alexeft
09/02/2018 siera
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
14/02/2018 Thekool1s
15/02/2018 starmman
16/02/2018 Globb0
17/02/2018 leveldkrypto
18/02/2018 olesh
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
20/02/2018 Paashaas
22/02/2018 icygreen
23/02/2018 erisdiscordia
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26/02/2018 Arriemoller
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06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
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11/03/2018 badream
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02/04/2018 kurious
05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny
11/04/2018 hairymaclairy
02/06/2018 oblox
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
18/12/2021 luckygenough56


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The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again
When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25
Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins

LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2017  @ 22.00 cet

AFTER THIS POST NO MORE NEWBIES MINIMUM 50 Posts

SOME HAVE TAKEN A DATE THATS ALLREADY OCCUPIED      -fluidjax
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              TAKE DIFFRENT DATE PLEASE GRTS



338. Post 26802910 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 22, 2017, 08:55:55 PM
Another leg up! Almost there...

Ok, can now we get back to the fee/scaling debate? Smiley
Fees are too damn high!(.gif)
Bitcoin is ded.
Or it used to be, at least  Wink



339. Post 26803056 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

By the way, during the last storm I haven't been able to log on here for close to 12 hours. Captcha server wasn't connectable, and clicking on "Tell me more" gave me a "Maybe your target site is being DDOSed" explanation from captcha.google.com (or whatever the server is).



340. Post 26810790 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: turboblade on December 23, 2017, 01:13:09 AM
I assume you are joking.

Agreed. However, I'm suspecting you're not married or have many close family relations in the US? The moment I brought up renouncing to my wife, and that she would need to apply for visas to visit family, friends, etc., well... you can imagine the response.

[CONDENSED RANT: educating women is pointless etc.]

Do you really? Unassume.



341. Post 26833998 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on December 23, 2017, 09:06:17 AM

The way I see it if I had BAC Coin and BAC coin could handle 100 transactions per block.  If I'm the one mining the blocks and collecting the reward... what the fuck do I care what I spend if it causes everyone else to compete with me?

If I send 0 transactions... everyone else has to spend at least $0.01

If I send 100 transactions for $1 a pop... everyone else has to spend at least $1.01. *cha ching*

I'm going to get the transaction fees anyways, so of fucking course, I'm going to spam BAC Coin for year and years to come because it is GROSSLY profitable.

It doesn't seem like rocket science.
Competition.
If you mine half the blocks, on average you know you will pocket 50% of the fees you spend to spam. So you spend 50 to spam 100, and you have a 50% discount on the cost of spamming.

If you mine 1/3 of the blocks, you only pocket 33% of the fees. Spend 66 to spam 100.

If you mine 1/n of the blocks, you only get a 1/n discount. If n is large enough, the discount is negligible and you spam as much as you spend. That's what a healthy fee market ensures.

Unfortunately, he current fee market isn't in good health. The cause is mining centralization, too little competition, so n is small. The 1/n discount for spammers is good enough for their pockets. Let BTC price and mining competition rise, and we'll be rid of the spam. Transaction fees will be due to real transaction pressure only.



342. Post 26835031 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 23, 2017, 01:57:40 PM
BCash getting the pumpation-sensation by the looks of it.

Have a feeling it's going to be "one of those days" again.
Cheap corn buy orders set up just in case.



343. Post 26850481 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Torque on December 23, 2017, 03:43:18 PM
Tom Lee gets it:

Fundstrat's Tom Lee says he's a buyer of the bitcoin pullback, now sees more than 35% gains from here
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/fundstrats-tom-lee-says-hes-a-buyer-of-the-bitcoin-pullback.html

And hey Tom, I bought that dip too! Nailed it at $11,500.
Hm, I'm a bit envious. I started higher, two increasing chunks on falling prices and then more at 12k. Ready for just a little bit moar around 11k. Any ballpark suggestion for a limit buy order while I'm out for a beer?



344. Post 26856695 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Back from beer time. More than one, actually. One too many, probably.
No dip to speak of. Awright, I'll check back later.
Gentlemen...




345. Post 26859976 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 24, 2017, 12:18:59 AM
I have always said that whilst LN is the only scalable solution it will also need a *minimal* increase in blocksize of the underlaying blockchain more sooner than later.

IF we can agree with that (maybe some people don't agree, it seems) AND unless LN is already around the corner (which it seems it is not).... why not do that small blocksize increase now as a temporary fix for the current network congestion (a fact... whatever the multiple causes including intentional spam) in the meantime?

Because any small increase can be spammed for a small increase of the cost.
We need more competition among miners. If possible, we need it before LN even launches, or at least takes off. Onchain transaction fees will likely increase when LN works at full regimen. In any case, we must make sure that when the would-be spammers want to disrupt LN, they tackle that wall of higher fees without the significant "miner monopoly discount" they have right now.



346. Post 26906636 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Gab0 on December 24, 2017, 10:04:55 PM

If the block limit of 1mb will inevitably be eliminated, why refuse an increase in the size of the blocks at critical times like the ones we have seen these days?

Among other reasons: because, as our good Mayor implies in his reply, a hardfork is required to increase the block size. A hardfork is not unplanned for, but when it happens it should include a bundle of fixes, not just a quick bandaid.
Besides, the bandaid can't really solve the problem, even momentarily: if the spammers are willing to spam no matter what, they can as easily fill double-sized blocks with 1-satoshi transactions.




347. Post 26907000 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Globb0 on December 24, 2017, 10:27:24 PM
I think the blockchain needs to have a sliding window. The network could pay a few nodes to be legacy nodes and hold the full history version or  chunks of archive (searchable).

The main chain could start 2 years ago with each accounts balance on that day and every transaction since then.
Storage is not the only problem. Bouncing big blocks around also causes bandwidth and latency issues.



348. Post 26909588 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Gab0 on December 24, 2017, 11:24:40 PM
On the other hand, it would be much more expensive for the attacker to fill the blocks.
Double size, double number of transactions (on average), double cost.
IMO the issue is that if the ones who spam are miners who pocket most of the fees anyway, it's much too cheap to spam.

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Filling the blocks with transactions of ~ $ 20 in fees should mean a large sum of money (regardless of whether they are miners or not).
If it's majority miners, it's not "regardless". They can rely on mining a large percentage of blocks, which in turn means a large percentage of the fees they paid get back to them.

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Obviously, this type of attack is being made to manipulate the price. If the cost of carrying out the attack exceeds the benefits that can be achieved by manipulating the market, the attacker loses the incentive to carry them out.
Agreed. IMO the way to up the price of spamming is not having larger blocks, because a significant percent of those blocks get mined by the spammer anyway - be they large or small blocks. A better solution would be to have really widespread mining, so the attackers know that their chances of pocketing back their own spam fees are low.

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Also, if 2mb or 4mb blocks are filled with 1sat / B transactions, no one would care, because the fees would still be low
My bad. I didn't write clearly (and I was not being accurate anyway).
I meant 1 satoshi as the transaction amount, not the fee. I know dust transactions are discarded anyway, but I meant "amount as low as can be". A bit of an exaggeration, admittedly.


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Jbreher recently mentioned the tx capacity of an average computer. I quote:

The only serious investigation into the matter has proven that your average 'home' computer today can handle a simple block size increase that will net us about 100 tx/s. And with a fix to core's crappy multithreading design, can handle block size increase up to about 500 tx/s. And that is without looking for other sw architecture improvements.
Jbreher is usually accurate in his factual statements, and his math is usually flawless. However, he does have his bigblocker agenda in his mind when he posts. He failed to mention bandwidth and latency, which are the real bottlenecks - more so than storage or computing power.

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I would like to be able to express my ideas more widely, but the language barrier does not allow me to do so.
I don't know what else you wanted to express, but you made yourself quite clear on these points. Don't think about the barrier - just say what you mean in the best way you manage. I think communication is just fine.

Merry Xmas everybody!



349. Post 26941045 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 25, 2017, 03:52:08 PM
I have always presumed jbreher is probably at least in the 4 digits BTC, maybe even in the (low) 5's.... Which is why I have always tried to understand why he decided to go the "wrong way" (Jihan/Ver) with so much at stake Smiley

I haven't worked out estimates of jbreher's (or anyone else's) stash, but the man strikes me as a rational thinker with much at stake since a long time. So I also tried to understand the reasons for his choice, and I asked him explicitly. Unfortunately, his explanations with regard to bigblockery/Verism etc. always came short. Disappointing underperformance for a good poster, accurate checker of facts, numerical literate such as he is.



350. Post 26956965 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on December 25, 2017, 11:15:45 PM
The core team, unlike the tree or two people calling the shots for bcash, are hundreds of developers working for *free* vs just a handful. You speak in total disrespect of opensource as such...

Thats where you're wrong kiddo. Look at the github and filter those developers which did more than 1 commit and did not just changed a typo...you're left with basically 5-10 persons
And you, try and take a look at the other github.



351. Post 26988499 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Going up nicely. Small bulltrap or real lift?



352. Post 26989314 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Thanks for cheering up, fabiorem and conspirosphere! My favorite indicators (RSI/Stoch RSI) are still all in neutral (around 0), that's why I asked  Grin

EDIT: on the 12h chart, I mean.



353. Post 26989549 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 26, 2017, 02:34:51 PM
$50k by March 2018 anyone?
McAfee is safe  Cool










Not at all impossible. Now could be a nice time to long some of them futures if one had balls and access to the platform. Or better yet last week, with a slightly larger dose of balls.



354. Post 26989655 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

And - sorry for repeated posting, but I'm getting a bit excited - is there any new gospel from masterluc? Was the last dip "it"?



355. Post 26991196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: TERA2 on December 26, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
time to get out
You mean you get out of here?  Tongue
J/k, we need some contrary voices sometimes.
Keyword: SOMETIMES!  Grin



356. Post 26998276 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 26, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
I would also like to bump my questions posted some 10 hours ago or something.

If you GPU mine, does it matter if your computer is connected to your browser via wifi or cable?

And does anyone know anything about the OS called PureOS. Are there any issues with that OS that you know of?
I'd say a cable can't hurt. It really depends on the bandwidth required. Not sure GPU mining can actually manage without a solid ethernet cable. A full (non mining) bitcoin node would at least choke a bit on wifi.
For authoritative answers, you'd better wait for one of our miners to chime in.



357. Post 26999061 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 26, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
I use Opera and I'm quite happy with it.

I haven't used Opera since the days of Win95 but I liked it back then.
I've kept on using the original Opera well into my Windows XP years. It used to be the best browser under all aspects. Fast, secure, customizable, dependable, obedient to the user (not to the website).
Unfortunately, they weren't able to maintain their Presto engine anymore, so they switched to Chromium, and now Opera is only a Chrome clone with a difference. I'm still using it on the sites where it works, but most of my browsing is on Firefox these days.




358. Post 27000519 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 26, 2017, 06:31:24 PM
I can't get angry with old Jimbo.  He's had a tough life.

Tough life? Hardly.

Job-free since 1976, spent most of my adult life partying, debt-free for over 20 years, enjoying relatively good health because of stress avoidance, lots of good friends and thousands of acquaintances (many who are considerably younger than me), and now a nice fat retirement fund thanks to Bitcoin.

I can't complain.
Music also helps to keep us young. See the incredible age managed by famous conductors, often still in full activity.



359. Post 27001473 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
I have always presumed jbreher is probably at least in the 4 digits BTC, maybe even in the (low) 5's.... Which is why I have always tried to understand why he decided to go the "wrong way" (Jihan/Ver) with so much at stake Smiley

I haven't worked out estimates of jbreher's (or anyone else's) stash, but the man strikes me as a rational thinker with much at stake since a long time. So I also tried to understand the reasons for his choice, and I asked him explicitly. Unfortunately, his explanations with regard to bigblockery/Verism etc. always came short. Disappointing underperformance for a good poster, accurate checker of facts, numerical literate such as he is.

What more reason do you need other than the fact that the current blocksize limitation is destroying the user experience thereby constraining adoption?
You seem to like BCH a lot, which IMO is not a rational strategy. This dissonance is unresolved as yet. A few reasons:

- BCH doesn't fix transaction malleabilty, ruling out L2 solutions which are the scaling solution in the medium (possibly long) term.

- BCH is controlled by a cartel. Their coders are clueless. The cartel is likely under the heavy hand of PBOC. They use guerrilla tactics (esp. transaction spam) to gain control.

- Big blocks will stifle adoption. Yes, that's the old "Raspberry pi in rural Afghanistan" argument. Even I, not in rural Afghanistan, would stop my own homespun node (not a pi though) if pressed by bandwidth and storage limits. "Be your own bank" implies the ability to run your own full verifying node.

- More adoption will come when we have a scalable system. Big blocks aren't scalable.

You know all these things already. You are too intelligent not to see the logical implications. So, my fuzzy inference is: you have other reasons. Not saying you are necessarily a paid shill, although it can't be ruled out. The "more reason" I was (and am) asking of you is an effective, documented rebuttal of my points or some subjective reason that goes beyond "I like big big big! Blocks big, me happy!" Something like "I was bitten by a small block when I was a child, try to understand my shock" would be a little better, but as you understand, still not quite satisfactory.



360. Post 27002019 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 26, 2017, 06:49:27 PM
Music also helps to keep us young. See the incredible age managed by famous conductors, often still in full activity.

Is it enough to listen to music?
Not sure, but I'm afraid not. I suspect it's the brain activity involved in making music that makes the magic happen.

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I'm so tone deaf that I was excused from (some) music classes in high school.
Btw was this song ever a international hit? or was it just in Sweden? Always wondered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdxCJaPLLE0
I don't think I've heard it before. Certainly nothing big like Abba or Europe.



361. Post 27005740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Gigantic OT, apologies in advance.

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM
I saw a billboard sign outside a hospital recently that said they were researching why instrumental musicians recover from strokes appreciably faster than average.

Instrumental musicians? I sense a tautology.
(For the unaware: it's an inside joke about singers  Wink)



362. Post 27009223 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
- BCH doesn't fix transaction malleabilty,
Transaction malleability is not a problem in practice. Any of its effects are easily mitigated.

FWIW, though, the majority opinion within the Bitcoin Cash community is that we will implement a malleability fix. When higher priority issues are in the rearview.
ruling out L2 solutions
No. While it is true that eliminating malleability simplifies known L2 solutions, in no way prevents them.
Preventing them to the point of making them too hard to implement reliably - at least, as of now. If the emergency situation grants hurrying to hardfork a blocksize change, why not fix transaction malleability first?


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
which are the scaling solution in the medium (possibly long) term.
Perhaps. Though I point out that any transaction on any known L2 is by definition not a Bitcoin transaction. Accordingly, less interesting.

Any L2 solution proven in practice -- including being free of negative side effects -- is likely to be picked up by the Bitcoin Cash chain.
Less interesting, but isn't the point about functionality rather than academic interest?

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
- BCH is controlled by a cartel.
No more so than Bitcoin Segwit. Less so in fact. Six independent leading implementations of non-mining, fully validating wallets (often mis referred to as 'nodes') as opposed to Bitcoin Segwit's Core implementation's market dominance.
Offhand innuendo, pff. The attitude behind this reply is one of the reasons I got tired of replying.  I am referring to the number of active developers (not just the ones with commit rights!). The fact that one client is more popular on the main bitcoin fork doesn't mean it's controlled by a cartel. Open source development and free client choice produced this result.

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Their coders are clueless.
Again, simply false.
To me, the mess they made with the fork and the EDA is the mark of incompetence. If it weren't for some of the Core developers, I imagine they would still be there trying to figure out "why the hell doesn't it work, hurr durr?"

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
The cartel is likely under the heavy hand of PBOC.
Again, no more so than Bitcoin Segwit. The miner population is identical between the two chains.
Another prime example of offhand innuendo in my probably biased opinion - and, most importantly, factually incorrect for all I know. Nearly all miners for BCH are in China. Jihan is a Chinese citizen who no doubt is scared shitless of the Gubment and its appendices (like PBOC). Jihan can shut off the whole merry-go-round at the touch of a button - by just restraining his support (like "miner hardware shall only be paid in BCH from now on") or by whispering a few nice words to select clients (big miners). All it takes is the Party to make him an offer he can't refuse.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
to gain control.
What exactly do you mean by this?
I mean taking control of Bitcoin by replacing it with Bcash. By doing so, developers would be under Jihan's, Ver's (and PBOC's) thumb. Censorship can happen. Moderate (or unreasonable!) inflation can be programmed as a "fair reward" for miners (most likely friends of the Party), who would become something like a miniature Central Bank, with similar privileges and arbitrary power. Anything can be perpetrated easily, if full nodes become so few as to be irrelevant.

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
- Big blocks will stifle adoption.
If you believe that the measure of adoption is number of non-mining, fully-validating wallets, then you may have a point. However, it has been demonstrated to my satisfaction that non-mining, fully-validating wallets have fuck-all to do with network health.
It hasn't been demonstrated to my satisfaction, though. Some things show their value only when they are sorely missed. Full nodes are one of these things IMO.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Further, I believe it likely that massive adoption will lead to huge numbers of nodes - naturally. Every common consumer has little reason to run such a non-mining, fully-validating wallet.
Depends how much they're holding, and how much they care about rules that preserve the system their wealth depends upon.

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
You know who does? Merchants who have a need to verify that their purchasers are actually broadcasting valid transactions for the goods and services they are purchasing.
Right, they do too.

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Yes, that's the old "Raspberry pi in rural Afghanistan" argument. Even I, not in rural Afghanistan, would stop my own homespun node (not a pi though) if pressed by bandwidth and storage limits.
Testing has demonstrated that an average 'home computer' on an average 'domestic broadband' connection can handle up to 100 tx/s with no architectural changes to the satoshi client, and 500 tx/s merely by fixing that client's broken threading implementation.
My bandwidth can't. Even in "civilized" nations, some areas can't devote all that bandwidth to a single household - if such significant bandwidth is there in the first place.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
"Be your own bank" implies the ability to run your own full verifying node.
Well, no. It most certainly does not. At least I can't see any prerequisite there. How do you figure?
See the point above, before "merchants".


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
- More adoption will come when we have a scalable system. Big blocks aren't scalable.
Big blocks -- by definition -- are scalable.
The number of bytes per se is scalable, of course. It's the resulting solution that doesn't scale well.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Yeah. We've already discussed these very points, have we not? Why you continue to ignore my replies is beyond my ken.
Not ignoring, but I feel stuck in a loop and it's bad for my health!  Tongue



363. Post 27009415 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 26, 2017, 10:14:11 PM

I like jbreher's posts. Without his posts we would have nothing but BTC cheerleaders here.

That’s like saying I love the big fat hairy guy in the corner of the strip club. If it wasn’t for him there would be just amazing tits and ass.



You know nothing about life dude. Life is a matter of contrasts. Beauty doesn't exist without ugly. Smart doesn't exist without stupid. World would be the most boring place if everybody would be or think the same. Be glad for the hairy guy Smiley
OK, you take the hairy guy then. I'll go for dumb, boring prime T&A.



364. Post 27009639 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 26, 2017, 10:19:57 PM
I'm really trying to stay apolitical, but I'm at a total loss with jbreher. It's like that guy in Florida that insisted on eating his own face. I just can't even.

Some valid points and concerns but boy are they glued to the wrong horse.
That's the way I see it too - and the reason why sometimes I do bother to write a detailed, articulated, civil reply. But still the exact mechanism of picking the wrong horse escapes me. It must be pretty dark in that barn.



365. Post 27011646 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 11:01:35 PM
You are the one who asserted cartelization. Who exactly does this posited cartel consist of?
And you replied BTC is as cartelized as BCH (which I don't think is a correct statement).
Cartel consisting of plainly visible J.Wu and R.Ver, plus some likely big shots of the PBOC/Chinese Party/Government who (will) use then (especially Wu) as a sock puppet as soon as the need arises.

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The mess they made with the EDA? The EDA served its declared purpose perfectly. It ensured the validity of the BCH chain in its infancy.

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If it weren't for some of the Core developers, I imagine they would still be there trying to figure out "why the hell doesn't it work, hurr durr?"

What value did the core developers add here?
I understand they helped fix a couple bugs in the code with public suggestions. Why would they? Probably just to ridicule the reckless coding that was going on.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Again, the set of miners for BCH is identical to the set of miners for BTC. Which renders irrelevant the following bit:
The potential set is.

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Miners have exactly as much control in Bitcoin Cash as they do in Bitcoin Segwit.
They might have a little more control in Bitcoin than in Bcash, because they don't have Sauron with the master ring above them.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
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Censorship can happen. Moderate (or unreasonable!) inflation can be programmed as a "fair reward" for miners (most likely friends of the Party), who would become something like a miniature Central Bank, with similar privileges and arbitrary power.
I would suggest you are ignoring fundamental dynamics of nakamoto consensus. The miners are held in check by the threat of the users abandoning the chain they create.
They seem to be abandoning Bcash. As long as there's the original chain to rely on, we're good.


Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
Yeah. We've already discussed these very points, have we not? Why you continue to ignore my replies is beyond my ken.
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Not ignoring, but I feel stuck in a loop and it's bad for my health!  Tongue

Well, that I can understand. I realize that my viewpoints are not share by the majority here on BCT.org. And I am fine with us having a disagreement on the desired direction forward. What I am not OK with is mischaracterization. One example thereof: "The "more reason" I was (and am) asking of you is an effective, documented rebuttal of my points or some subjective reason that goes beyond "I like big big big! Blocks big, me happy!"" Obviously, my replies to you have been more than "I like big big big"..., and for you to characterize it as such is not only uncharitable, it is either lazy or dishonest. Frankly, while I expect that from some here, I did not expect it from you.
Right. You arguments are generally much better than "big big big!". The problem with you is you mix fact and opinion/construction in a clever way, and separating chaff from grain is hard work. So I was just trying to have some fun explaining why I find there's a point beyond which it's not worthwhile to extend the discussion. Some people are pissed off by lengthy debates that run in circles.

You must admit, however, than the childhood trauma gag ("bitten by a small block") was quite funny  Tongue



366. Post 27011718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 26, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
Does the blockchain still have a purpose with LN on ? Educate me !

Yes, it serves two purposes:

1.  If one of your counter parties attempts to settle an old channel state on the blockchain (e.g., a channel state where you held fewer coins), you or your LN-bank acting on your behalf,

Or anyone else, acually.

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must push the up-to-date channel state to avoid being defrauded.  This also means your funds in the LN channels are always "live."

The would-be fraudsters would pay with their whole channel stake. If this isn't a good enough deterrent...



367. Post 27012012 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 26, 2017, 11:36:53 PM
You are the one who asserted cartelization. Who exactly does this posited cartel consist of?
And you replied BTC is as cartelized as BCH (which I don't think is a correct statement).
Cartel consisting of plainly visible J.Wu and R.Ver, plus some likely big shots of the PBOC/Chinese Party/Government who (will) use then (especially Wu) as a sock puppet as soon as the need arises.

This is a consistent Core talking point. Yet nobody ever bothers to explain how such a cartel was created, is structured, and is managed. Well, some make easily debunked assertions. Will you be the first to elucidate? Or will you drop this inane assertion?

The simple risk it might be so is too much for me. I like it the way it is now, with LN on top. I had a big block of ice fall on my head when I was a child, you know. To each his own (childhood traumas included).



368. Post 27012166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 26, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
The only parties who will necessarily know all of the intermediate channel states are you and your counter party.  Yes, you can contract a third-party to monitor the blockchain for you (like I said), but you cannot expect good-Samaritan-type nodes to do this autonomously -- they won't even have the required information.  
You can contract several such third-parties with a "Reward after the bust, first one to catch the thief gets the money" kind of agreement. The fraction of channel value rewarded to the thief hunter would be such to grant maximum attention while leaving a significant profit to the "victim". Talk about opportunities.

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On your second point, I never said the deterrent against fraud in LN was insufficient.  I'm just pointing out that because the channels are all "live" they constantly need monitoring to guard against fraud.  
Fair enough. I don't see this as a negative thing, though. Not implying you do, either.



369. Post 27073579 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

This sideways movement has low volume, but for now there's good support/buy pressure. It feels like a very controlled series of swings. I placed a couple of conservative buy orders just under the recent lows. That was yesterday and none of them has been filled yet - even partially. Ready to BTFD if a significant dip indeed comes.

EDIT: I talked too early. It's going down fast, but it's still above my buy orders.




370. Post 27074410 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 28, 2017, 02:42:52 AM
Just bought @ 14700ish. Let’s see if I regret this.

Edit:  yup went too early. Lesson learned.  
Same. The first (higher) of my conservative orders. Got one more a couple of hundreds lower, but ATM it's getting buried in the orderbook.



371. Post 27102821 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: RewFrew on December 28, 2017, 02:02:08 PM
Hey there,

I know that bitcoin is the most secure thing ever created  and that duo to his low speed verification/transaction. If bitcoin turns to be very quick, hes going to lose from his security and then the possibility to be hacked.

But i have a question for bitcoin old big holders: When the bitcoin lightning fork gonna happend: are you going to hold the same amount of bitcoin and bitcoin lightning or more bitcoin lithting or sell all and buy more bitcoin?

The fact is: you can make transaction for less than 1 cent in 1 to 3 seconds max.

For me: i gonna use bitcoin for most of my money saving as it is the most secure thing on planet for now, and hold some bitcoin lightning for small transactions. Also can use it for big transaction if i need the transaction to happend in a second.

So, what is your view/Strategy on it?
There's no such thing as bitcoin lightning. It's just plain old (true) Bitcoin. You can choose to lock some of it in one or more lightning channels until they are closed, that's all.



372. Post 27102886 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 28, 2017, 12:55:09 PM
Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?
Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?



373. Post 27103235 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Dabs on December 28, 2017, 06:25:40 AM
I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but Windows 10 isn't so bad.

Granted, I "modified" my OS so it doesn't auto update, and turned off all the suspect "malware / spyware". I confirmed it with network tools and wireshark and ethernet sniffers. Nothing in or out (not even encrypted unless I was using tor or a VPN).

Of course, I don't use IE. I just use Windows as the OS, everything else is an app ... firefox, bitcorns, gpg ... all free too. Got the license from school.
I'm still steering clear of Win 10 too, but finding good Win7 laptops (or desktop hardware with compatible drivers) is getting harder and harder. Do you have any pointers to good cleanup/securing routines?
Thanks for the help!

Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12?



374. Post 27103756 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Searing on December 28, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but Windows 10 isn't so bad.

Granted, I "modified" my OS so it doesn't auto update, and turned off all the suspect "malware / spyware". I confirmed it with network tools and wireshark and ethernet sniffers. Nothing in or out (not even encrypted unless I was using tor or a VPN).

Of course, I don't use IE. I just use Windows as the OS, everything else is an app ... firefox, bitcorns, gpg ... all free too. Got the license from school.
I'm still steering clear of Win 10 too, but finding good Win7 laptops (or desktop hardware with compatible drivers) is getting harder and harder. Do you have any pointers to good cleanup/securing routines?
Thanks for the help!

Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12?

Windows 10 1709 major update...auto downloaded and wiped my windows machine back to default (new computer id mode) and all apps came up as saying it was a NEW windows

OS . also wiped out all my folder arrangments on main screen to default

was a real pain.....so I do an update before moving ANY crypto on a wallet...could you imagine sending coin and then have your computer reset at that point on an auto update

be cautious with this windows and your wallets boys and girls


I know setting your main net connection to "metered" can stop the automatic loading and applying of updates if you set that option ("Don't update over metered connections", or something like that).

I think there is some fairly established procedure to sanitize Windows 10 into something resembling a loyal OS, but the sources are many and the devil is in the details. That's why I asked Dabs, who seems to know quite a bit about this, to give us some pointers before we switch to the Dark Side (all Windoze users will have to, one gloomy day. Myself included, sigh sigh.)



375. Post 27104301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 28, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?
Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it.
Yes, it is by the new rules  Embarrassed



376. Post 27106056 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 28, 2017, 03:05:51 PM
I think there is some fairly established procedure to sanitize Windows 10 into something resembling a loyal OS, but the sources are many and the devil is in the details.

1) stop windows update service (only reactivate when you install devices ... and desactivate after a reboot).

2) stop windows malware search.

3) done.

point 1 is the same for Win8 actually ... when an update can WIPE OUT the PC at factory reset (many problems like this and Win10 follow the same route because of massive update for drivers ... incompatibles drivers from Windows Update !!!).

Thanks, Meuh6879!

So with a startup script to stop the update and malware search services we should be good.

I think there was more to it though. The sites I visited (just for my own preventive information) after Win10 came out usually listed a dozen points. Maybe it had to do with Cortana and other data-hungry little daemons?



377. Post 27106738 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Enjel on December 28, 2017, 03:39:11 PM
This is why all American "coin traders" should move to Puerto Rico ASAP - can't beat 0% taxes Smiley

http://www.portocapital.com/puerto-rico-act-22-tax-incentives-legislations-individual-investors-act/

Pretty sure PR doesn't have internet in most areas after this hurricane.
I think you can have PR residency and operate remotely from another location.



378. Post 27107624 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: arklan on December 28, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
Ok, ok. I'm awake... And... Wrong about the price recovering by now. Good call torque.
It's not that Torque's paranoid.
It's that they're out to get us!



379. Post 27109336 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: Torque on December 28, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Ok, ok. I'm awake... And... Wrong about the price recovering by now. Good call torque.
It's not that Torque's paranoid.
It's that they're out to get us!

Nah, they're not out to get us. Because the idea of false flag events being perpetrated by the U.S. government against it's own people is absurd and nothing but conspiracy nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
https://crowdsondemand.com/

Just like everything negative the MSM prints about Bitcoin is 100% accurate and true. Because they're trying to save you from yourself, can't you see? No one that has ever put money into Bitcoin has benefited from it, just look at the 8 year chart.
In my family, only my SO knows about my bitcoin involvement (and knows no exact numbers - I talked about ~10% of the actual amount).

So I have this very institutional, serious, conservative saver type brother. Intelligent, informed kind of guy, though not a follower of financial news if not in the broader sense. Just today, he mentioned BTC and said something like "They deserve it! 40% loss in one day!". He thought BTC is something new, a 2017 fad or something. I didn't argue that much, just replied "It began in 2009 actually, you know."

This illustrates how the impact of partial, incomplete MSM coverage can influence the thoughts of even informed people. If my brother was more informed or understood the matter more deeply, he could be one formidable hodler. I hope to show him how wrong he was, one day when a big chunk of my stash goes to his children too.

Keep on doing your thing, Torque! Your lucid paranoia is appreciated here.



380. Post 27122686 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 28, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
Thanks NiceSoft12!

uhhhhhhh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg27081374#msg27081374


Uh, hm, sorry about that, Jojo. I guess I got the quotation mixed up.
Thanks, jojo69!

(And thanks to AlcoHoDL for pointing that out.)



381. Post 27124490 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Shitpost, the author says. Not too shitty IMO.
Kind of a "Cryptmas Carol" story.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7mminl/shitpost_final_words/



382. Post 27124653 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: goggles on December 28, 2017, 08:56:34 PM
He got a confirm. 45k lost. Sad
Sorry for you, man. It will happen again, several times over. Hope it's just a dent in your hold.

We would really be interested if you could share some details on how you think the thief got to the keys.



383. Post 27126327 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: goggles on December 28, 2017, 11:04:36 PM
Sorry for posting way off topic this morning, I was in panic mode. I know you guys are always on here, and I appreciate your help. Looks like I actually got my coins back now. (mind blown) I got on this morning to send a transaction, I was watching it on the blockchain, 2 hours later. A separate transaction appeared sending my remaining coins to unknown address. Which turns out, is one of my own hidden addresses. I know change can be sent back to hidden addresses, my understanding is it's always in the same Transaction ID though. This transaction shows on the blockchain with it's own ID but doesn't show in my wallet.

That's the first time I've ever seen a backdoor virus detected on this pc and I definitely did not turn defender off myself. Maybe that's just a coincidence and it was leading to draw the wrong conclusions. I dunno. I did a format and reinstall of windows 3 days ago because windows was reporting corrupt system files when trying to update. I've only installed programs I consider trustworthy since, so I'm really surprised to find a backdoor got on here. Anyway, think I'm going to take a nap when my blood pressure returns to normal.
Wheeeew!!!
Some celebration is in order, methinks. Pull out the good stuff!  Grin



384. Post 27128224 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: afbitcoins on December 28, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
Sorry for posting way off topic this morning, I was in panic mode. I know you guys are always on here, and I appreciate your help. Looks like I actually got my coins back now. (mind blown) I got on this morning to send a transaction, I was watching it on the blockchain, 2 hours later. A separate transaction appeared sending my remaining coins to unknown address. Which turns out, is one of my own hidden addresses. I know change can be sent back to hidden addresses, my understanding is it's always in the same Transaction ID though. This transaction shows on the blockchain with it's own ID but doesn't show in my wallet.

That's the first time I've ever seen a backdoor virus detected on this pc and I definitely did not turn defender off myself. Maybe that's just a coincidence and it was leading to draw the wrong conclusions. I dunno. I did a format and reinstall of windows 3 days ago because windows was reporting corrupt system files when trying to update. I've only installed programs I consider trustworthy since, so I'm really surprised to find a backdoor got on here. Anyway, think I'm going to take a nap when my blood pressure returns to normal.

Thank fuck for that. Get yourself a linux partition to start with.
Also, you could keep the wallets cold ("watch-only" in Electrum). When you need to move something, sign your transaction on an offline machine, then broadcast them from a live (connected) wallet. But I guess you already know about that.



385. Post 27173145 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: ParabellumLite on December 29, 2017, 07:12:01 PM
Reading all these comments here again about Ripple, and again the conclusion is the same: this is the valley of the clueless.

Clueless indeed. We didn't hear or read about the change of paradigm: burning of the premined coins and zero-knowledge induced decentralization (the technical details about this zero-knowledge thingy to decentralize ripple were a bit too complicated for me).

Dimon also said it's perfectly ok and not a scam. We only missed it. Thanks for the heads up!  Tongue



386. Post 27180199 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 29, 2017, 10:29:27 PM
There is absolutely zero retail demand for "Ripple".  No random joes off the street are opening Coinbase accounts to buy Ripple.
I see you can be right too at times. It's a good sign. Happy 2018!



387. Post 27208458 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

The way I see it, it's just someone playing the markets with skill and good execution. End of year, some cashing out, little liquidity around. Perfect timing. This might well be Masterluc's expected dip to 10k. Come 2018, I expect a significant retrace. End of January, I expect ATH-fest. February, we'll be in Carolina.

And the Ripple thingy - I like Torque's hunch. BTW Torque, it was in someone else's dream before you spelled it out plainly. Can't remember who the other poster was. Anyway, Ripple is a premined uncapped banking scam. We all know what it's ultimately worth. Wanna profit on it? Be quick and get out. Hold at your own risk.

C'mon guys, we've seen worse. I know I have, and some of you have been in the game longer than I. So stop whining and accumulate FFS!



388. Post 27212873 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

We'll be liberated after our customary "Who sold at the bottom?" post.
The official appointed issuer of the above mentioned post can party wildly during New Year celebrations.
We are patient and can wait until January.
Chill out, guys, this is nothing.
Accumulate FFS.



389. Post 27213169 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 30, 2017, 03:34:58 PM
The supply stands at 100 billion: more cannot be made. But the circulating supply increases, due to Ripple Inc holding on to about 60 billion XRP at this point (which are placed in escrow by the way, and only gets released in small batches). Ripple uses this 'war chest' of XRP to attract new partners, all of which that buy it are restricted it dumping it on the market as well. I do remark on that, as there is some kind of 'idea' - a poor one that is - within this community that Ripple can just nuke the market at once. Anyone that even followed the company longer than a day knows that would run counter to everything it stands for, but since most people here haven't even read more than a tweet about Ripple I will suffice by saying that much.

Ripple is actually quite decentralized nowadays. You can inform yourself here: https://ripple.com/dev-blog/decentralization-strategy-update/  And now to totally piss you off: what do you think about this:
https://i.imgur.com/UMosX0E.png ?

Is this 'not' centralized?

The big irony of some of you oldtime Bitcoiners is that you just cannot see what is unfolding in front of your very eyes, that being that BTC is actually at this point more centralized than Ripple. Good luck defending the opposite point of view.

How does one become a "trusted" validator? Appears to me their decentralization strategy is like an aristocracy becoming more decentralized by the King/Queen knighting a few more people.  Huh

This. You see, ParabellumLite, this is what we mean when we say it's a bankster's scam.
We like it trustless.
Repeat slowly: T R U S T L E S S.



390. Post 27213491 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: ParabellumLite on December 30, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
The supply stands at 100 billion: more cannot be made. But the circulating supply increases, due to Ripple Inc holding on to about 60 billion XRP at this point (which are placed in escrow by the way, and only gets released in small batches). Ripple uses this 'war chest' of XRP to attract new partners, all of which that buy it are restricted it dumping it on the market as well.
Good. So it means we'll never see a massive XRP dump. Right? Then you can sleep at night.

Quote from: ParabellumLite on December 30, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
The big irony of some of you oldtime Bitcoiners is that you just cannot see what is unfolding in front of your very eyes, that being that BTC is actually at this point more centralized than Ripple.
Hello, Roach? Is that you? Ah, no. Uh, sorry. So please tell this guy that nothing like a decentralized digital asset can ever exist, so the point is moot. Besides, I'm sure he's a Jew.

@ParabellumLite: Beware of the dogs.



391. Post 27215352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: European Central Bank on December 30, 2017, 04:00:45 PM
Why does nipple even need discussing.

Unfortunately it appears it doesn't.
All the boob pics on ATHs are nippleless  Angry



392. Post 27215580 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: Nubitcoinerr on December 30, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
Interesting that the majority feels price will be at 20-22k by the 31st....
You can only vote once. I'm sure the sentiment has been revised in the meantime.
Myself, I would have voted 22-24 if that option hadn't been left out.
Short term timing is tricky. If we were right about that all the time, we would already be all millionaires. Which only 10-20% of us are, instead  Tongue



393. Post 27224311 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: the artful bodger on December 30, 2017, 07:22:50 PM
Bitstamps pumped back up to $13000!

Maybe I missed my chance to panic sell at the bottom.

Is it time to ask who sold at the bottom yet?
Tsk tsk. Don't mess with the officials! It's not upon you - or me - to ask such questions.
Tsk tsk, the disrespect!  Tongue



394. Post 27224616 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 30, 2017, 07:58:35 PM
Even though a vast majority of us were predicting a kind of $20k to $24k range - which was at least 10% more than the then price, that does NOT mean that we changed our buy/sell (hodl) strategy in any kind of meaningful way.  So in some sense many of us might make a prediction or have a hunch, but we may only play that hunch on the margins,

(snip)

Hodling and accumulating of BTC is likely to be the most profitable in the long run

The alternatives are either tricky/risky (timing the market with any reliability) or a bit more involved (laddered sell/buy on up/down ramps, à la JayJuanGee or jbreher).

Of course, it is possible to have some small fraction of "play money" traded on margin just to see how it works out. It usually doesn't work out right, but it depends on more than one factor.



395. Post 27224785 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 30, 2017, 08:09:49 PM
Of course, it is possible to have some small fraction of "play money" traded on margin

Speaking of which, today Bitmex awarded BTC to their customers based on a margin snapshot taken on August 1st at the time of the BCH fork. The ratio is 0.1707 BTC for each BTC (BCH) of margin held at that time.

Over 17% return on play money. That's not shabby at all, is it?



396. Post 27235281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Except this block didn't include the 12.5 BTC mining reward.  I wonder...



397. Post 27236514 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on December 31, 2017, 02:57:54 AM
There is a lot of FUD circulating around these days.
Business as usual, in other words.



398. Post 27258363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 31, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
I am completely serious.

Why are you bothering to engage this nothing? In the time you wrote that you could've saved a life or invented cold fusion.

Ohh, yeah, I felt on the trap again. Sorry. Sad
Don't worry. He needs some attention, too. It's New Year, let's be good.
Besides, he's good against intruders (inJEWders?). Woof. Woof.



399. Post 27262173 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 31, 2017, 03:04:17 PM

Block #501853
A new one, but the "unknown" miner only sacrifices only the Tx fee this time.
Number Of Transactions = 1
Transaction Fees   0 BTC

https://blockchain.info/block-height/501853

Viable attack to use when the blockchain is already backlogged with txs?
Somebody needs to start working on a fix.
Hoping it isn't a viable attack in the long term.
Cant keep sacrificing 12.5 BTC unless there is a bigger end game. But can keep sacrificing  fees for keeping the mining fee higher for longer.
Have a bad feeling about this. Mostly the timing. Already a bit too down on price and might end up testing long term support levels .Hope its nothing.



This is just a standard empty block being mined. The block was mined in less than a minute after the last solved block. This is not an attack but pretty standard. Many pools mine empty blocks while they validate the last block. Before they can start including tx, they need to know which transactions in their mempool are already included in the last block. Rather than experience downtime, many pools elect to mine empty blocks during the validation period.
Allright, this looks fairly normal - but what's your opinion on the block with the lost reward?



400. Post 27265970 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: speedwheel on December 31, 2017, 04:26:25 PM
Who sold at the bottom?
(snubbing) Won't even reply to such questions until the proper moment.
Tsk, I'm waiting for the officials.
And I have a hunch they're too busy celebrating ATM!  Cheesy

HAPPY 2018
This will be THE year I think.



401. Post 27381416 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: RoomBot on January 03, 2018, 03:46:11 AM


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402. Post 27488920 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Maicol792 on January 04, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
This description is the reality ... LN is the future and i think in june 18 ... btc reach 40k usd
Any reason for this particular date?



403. Post 27569275 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

This piece of news hasn't been discussed much here yet, so what do you think of the Wavecrest debit card shutdown? The official word from VISA is that Wavecrest didn't comply with VISA regulations - but there's no hint at which specific regulations were disattended.

To me, it smells like a few governments put some pressure on VISA to end that service. VISA have been swift to oblige, as they always are as soon as a big actor uses power voice mode. But I might just be a rookie conspiracy theorist...



404. Post 27569320 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 06, 2018, 04:18:33 AM
He is trying to rename Bitcoin. Just keep ignoring him.
Could it be he's trying to get even for the cute Bcash nickname?  Tongue



405. Post 27592868 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 06, 2018, 05:20:06 AM
He is trying to rename Bitcoin. Just keep ignoring him.
Could it be he's trying to get even for the cute Bcash nickname?  Tongue



No way, Jose....   I mean eddie.

You are giving jbreher.. way too much benefit of the doubt and trying to attribute some kind of justification for his passive-aggressive trolling attack on bitcoin propaganda.  He is way more intentional than you seem to think.
No kind justification, Juan. I was teasing.

Names are important in an immature market filled with newbies. By calling Bitcoin as he does, he implies there are two bitcoins. One is cash (good), the other is ... some technical thing whatever about losing wits or something (bad).

In this forum, most readers know what's what and the risk of confusion is minimal, shills and trolls aside.. However, I think it's better to stick to safe, clear names that don't contain "bitcoin" - such as Bcash - for forkcoins, reserving the name Bitcoin for the real thing.

This has the added benefit of causing a few moments of comedy now and then, especially during interviews.



406. Post 27594577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Gab0 on January 06, 2018, 02:20:13 PM
I do not consider increasing blocks a good solution. It does not scale while the negative consequences for decentralisation are unclear. Since Bitcoin’s only true value lies in ‘decentralisation’, I support not hastily moving away from this core concept just to solve a current - perceived as immediate - issue. There is too much at stake.

Maybe you are right, bigger blocks do not scale. But increasing the current size is a requirement for climbing. Check the LN white paper and note the block size needed so that each person can open and close a channel once a year using segwit.
There are already 2 different solutions ready for implementation (they might be already in the test stage, for all I know) to bundle multiple channel opening transactions into a single blockchain event - similar to what CoinJoin does. The fee would get split among the openers. The more you're willing to wait for a larger pool of channel openers, the less you pay. The same mechanism can be used to fund channels with exhausted capacity. This seems an excellent way to go for the time being. I'm confident more sophisticated stuff will come along.

Now what we should really do is force the big actors to embrace segwit, so LN can flourish. Like, some heavy user lobbying on Coinbase. Of course, more variety and competition in the exchange market can't hurt.



407. Post 27594593 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: d_eddie on January 06, 2018, 04:45:06 AM
This piece of news hasn't been discussed much here yet, so what do you think of the Wavecrest debit card shutdown? The official word from VISA is that Wavecrest didn't comply with VISA regulations - but there's no hint at which specific regulations were disattended.


To me, it smells like a few governments put some pressure on VISA to end that service. VISA have been swift to oblige, as they always are as soon as a big actor uses power voice mode. But I might just be a rookie conspiracy theorist...

Quote from: Heater on January 06, 2018, 04:52:53 AM
No need for a conspiracy theory - it's the same as banks blocking transfers to bitcoin exchanges - or closing accounts associated with Bitcoin - or limiting or double checking transfers to exchanges etc. It's just normal risk management. Accounts get hacked every day and once the money is drained off into cryptoland the bank has no way to recover it.
This explanation is not too convincing. With the risk of funds disappearing, Wavecrest wouldn't have been appointed in the first place, I suppose. I would really like to know which specific rules were disattended.

Quote from: keyboard warrior on January 06, 2018, 05:41:41 AM
There are loads of other crypto/fiat debit cards that visa is still supporting. It's Wavecrest that visa is cracking down on, not crypto/fiat debit cards in general. It probably won't affect bitcoin's price anyway because most of the new buyers in the crypto ecosystem won't even know what a crypto/fiat debit card is yet.
Really? It would be nice, but I haven't been able to find "loads" of alternatives.  Can you name a few, please?



408. Post 27595003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 06, 2018, 02:52:37 PM

This explanation is not too convincing. If there was risk of funds disappearing, Wavecrest wouldn't have been appointed in the first place, I suppose. I would really like to know which specific rules were disattended.


Wavecrest has its official HQ in Gibraltar.... so most probably it's a KYC/AML thing, which makes much more sense when you also add cryptocurrencies to the equation. Also take into account the EU regulation regarding prepaid/debit/gift cards of over 100€.
I had a couple of those cards, and the KYC procedure was quite thorough in both cases. I'm afraid it's more of an AML thing, like Wavecrest refusing to provide the data to the "powers that be" without international court orders or similar compelling reasons. Unlike VISA, that chickens out at the mere lifting of an international eyebrow.



409. Post 27595496 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 06, 2018, 02:58:18 PM

This explanation is not too convincing. If there was risk of funds disappearing, Wavecrest wouldn't have been appointed in the first place, I suppose. I would really like to know which specific rules were disattended.


Wavecrest has its official HQ in Gibraltar.... so most probably it's a KYC/AML thing, which makes much more sense when you also add cryptocurrencies to the equation. Also take into account the EU regulation regarding prepaid/debit/gift cards of over 100€.
I had a couple of those cards, and the KYC procedure was quite thorough in both cases. I'm afraid it's more of an AML thing, like Wavecrest refusing to provide the data to the "powers that be" without international court orders or similar compelling reasons. Unlike VISA, that chickens out at the mere lifting of an international eyebrow.

Yes, most probably AML. I updated my previous post with a reference to banking secret that might apply here.

Gibraltar has many similarities to Andorra. In fact it is currently a way better "tax-heaven" than Andorra. Barclays has some nice setups there for... stuff. Or so I have heard.
Crypto (carding) is done.  Undecided



410. Post 27596957 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: European Central Bank on January 06, 2018, 03:27:15 PM
Crypto (carding) is done.  Undecided

people with coinbase and american bitpay cards are fine. it's one crappy company being crappy. if a non crappy company shows up then the people who've lost cards will get other ones.
You ECB, stop printing all those fancy euros before you call companies that help people save themselves from inflation "crappy"!  Tongue

Seriously, most of the companies that offered cards through Wavecrest have sent out emails to customers saying they will replace the cards (free of charge) as soon as they find a viable partner. I haven't received any such email yet, but it's still the weekend.



411. Post 27597494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: European Central Bank on January 06, 2018, 03:39:36 PM
You ECB, stop printing all those fancy euros before you call companies that help people save themselves from inflation "crappy"!  Tongue

Seriously, most of the companies that offered cards through Wavecrest have sent out emails to customers saying they will replace the cards (free of charge) as soon as they find a viable partner. I haven't received any such email yet, but it's still the weekend.

i think it's gonna take months or maybe never before they find replacements, especially for gbp cards. wavecrest was the only game in town for a lot of them.
I'm afraid it won't be much quicker for cards in euros, either.



412. Post 27606615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: fluidjax on January 06, 2018, 04:26:46 PM
A major thing people forget when simply saying we need a small block size increase, is that it requires a HARD FORK.
This means that a whole bunch of people with 100,000's of Bitcoins are going to be pissed. MP & his group for one. Probably a number of others.

These people, along with many others will probably continue the existing chain, claiming it is the real Bitcoin. (Just like BClashic but much worse).
Imagine the damage that is going to do to Bitcoin, we must have  an overwhelming consensus otherwise it's going to be a clusterfuck!

Clap, clap. The blocks will get bigger when they will. Let's turn our heads to the real alternative solutions. The pot is on the fire, soon dinner's gonna be served. Let's just get the big actors to come along ASAP.

Hello, Coinbase? Hello? Anybody in there?



413. Post 27606810 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Another yummy snippet from fluidjax.

Quote from: fluidjax on January 06, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Total ban on mining in China..
A slow orderly exit is planned - apparently confirmed by Jihan (by Cryptovenus)

https://twitter.com/cryptovenus/status/949405526315716608

The BTC market should see this in a positive way, but there is no accounting for stupidity.
The will force chinese miners to relocate and spread out geographically, and also cause them higher electricity costs, which will allow more competition.

If this is confirmed, it's quite an important piece of news.
I also see this as quite bullish. Never forget: the freedom that comes with decentralization is Bitcoin's main asset.

By the way, this appears more plausible than the customary quarterly "China bans bitcoin" FUD items. There's no FUD context (or necessity) this time, so it does look different.



414. Post 27607661 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: vapourminer on January 06, 2018, 06:56:18 PM

Old coins are now worth $19951USD/$24766CAD (Coinmarketcap).


ok searched a bit and i still cant figure out what this means.. what are "old coins" and why are they worth more?
Unsplit BTC still with a BCH, and possibly other forkcoins, inside.



415. Post 27614200 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: itod on January 06, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
Am I understanding it correctly that LN only works with segwit?

Why would it work only with segwit? I see no technical reason, but segwit adoption would certainly help LN to make opening/closing LN channels cheaper.

LN as it is now depends on transaction malleability being fixed. That's why it was designed with segwit as a prerequisite. So yes, Ibian, you are correct as far as the real current Lightning Network goes.



416. Post 27622159 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 07, 2018, 01:32:26 AM
(2) Accepting BCH for payments is trivial for all the companies and payment processors that previously accepted Bitcoin but stopped due to high fees and unreliable confirmations.  BCH is a drop-in replacement where as supporting BTC is more complex due to segwit (+ further complexity should LN be viable).  
Of course accepting BCH is trivial for those who already accept bitcoin.
All BCH did is increase the block size while keeping all witness data in mined blocks.
It could be seen as sweeping a problem under the rug, or as kicking the can a few feet further down the road.

BTC is more complex due to segwit - and hopefully soon LN too - because it's evolving in order to survive the technological challenges. It's not sweat-free. No free lunch and stuff. The benefits of upgrading will be more than worth the sweat for merchants (little sweat) and users (no sweat as soon as the first user-grade wallets become available).

But why am I explaining this to you? You are a technical person, aren't you?



417. Post 27625191 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 07, 2018, 02:59:03 AM
Why would LN not work out as planned? Just out of curiosity, I'm eager to know where the BCash hope is.


I don't think the LN will work technically for two main reasons: (1) the high fees to open and close channels will make it too expensive to be practical,
There are two CoinJoin-like solutions being developed, at least one of which is at a fairly mature stage of progress, as I understand it.

Quote from: Peter R on January 07, 2018, 02:59:03 AM
and (2) there is no known solution to route-finding with a mesh topology so the network will have a hub-and-spoke topology instead.
No exact solutions in the sense of optimal, shortest-metric routing. A decent heuristic is enough to get the system going and avoid a hub-and-spoke topology. How does TOR manage to create circuits?

Quote from: Peter R on January 07, 2018, 02:59:03 AM
But let's ignore that for now and assume that LN will work like BS/Core expects.  There is still the _huge_ problem that LN is a new network and needs lots of people to adopt it in order for it to have value.  I think people think that when LN is "released" that suddenly all wallets will be able to make LN payments just like they can make bitcoin payments today.  But that's not what will happen; instead, the first people to open channels will only be able to send payments to a couple of vendors and a handful of connected people.  It will take years and years for the network infrastructure to get the point that Bitcoin was at 3 years ago.
What I'm saying now is pure speculation, but bear with me. All the users that whine about high fees should be able to put some pressure on vendors - and especially exchanges. I agree that segwit adoption is going slowly; but that's because few wallets support it. If half of the users had a segwit-enabled wallet, it would be much harder for exchanges to delay upgrading. The customers would flock to the first exchanges to adopt the new technology.

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BTC is sabotaging itself.
It isn't. It's in a pupal stage IMO, preparing for the next metamorphosis.




418. Post 27652602 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 07, 2018, 03:43:40 AM
critical vulnerability in electrum?
I read up something about that. I guess those of us who use NoScript should have been fairly safe.



419. Post 27683653 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 08, 2018, 02:30:43 AM
Won't LN make payment processors like Bitpay totally obsolete? Smiley



Totally obsolete, not immediately.
Until at least some of your providers in turn accept LN payments, some kind of bridge to/from fiat will still be necessary, as you need to unload your channels when their in-capacity gets filled up.



420. Post 27684331 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 08, 2018, 02:53:37 AM
Won't LN make payment processors like Bitpay totally obsolete? Smiley
But I think LN fees will be too high and the network too impractical to compete with on-chain payments on an uncrippled cryptocurrency.
<crystalball>
Incentives, Peter. With the entry cost of setting up a LN hub close to the simple funding of channels, my guess is there will be fierce competition on prices, some of which motivated by purely political, rather than financial, reasons (as in: I, for one, will start a hub as soon as it's practical). With such low-denominator price wars, and low ROI volunteers helping the net nearly for free (as full nodes already do today), I don't see how a high fee level could be sustained.
</crystalball>



421. Post 27685333 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 08, 2018, 03:19:00 AM
Won't LN make payment processors like Bitpay totally obsolete? Smiley
But I think LN fees will be too high and the network too impractical to compete with on-chain payments on an uncrippled cryptocurrency.
<crystalball>
Incentives, Peter. With the entry cost of setting up a LN hub close to the simple funding of channels, my guess is there will be fierce competition on prices, some of which motivated by purely political, rather than financial, reasons (as in: I, for one, will start a hub as soon as it's practical). With such low-denominator price wars, and low ROI volunteers helping the net nearly for free (as full nodes already do today), I don't see how a high fee level could be sustained.
</crystalball>


There was a really interesting talk on "Recharging Lightning" at Scaling Bitcoin Stanford by Aviv Zohar.  You can watch it here:

https://youtu.be/3pd6xHjLbhs?t=1h2m21s

He showed that LN fees in fact wouldn't be as low as many people expect because:

- channels eventually become depleted and need to be "recharged." This costs 1 on-chain fee which needs to be amortized over the life of the channel.
That's right. That's where CoinJoin-like refunding can help. Actually, I'm not 100% positive that system has been extended to deal with refunding yet, but it can and it will. You can then plan your re-fundings in advance, and pay a fraction of the fee if you are willing to wait.

Quote from: Peter R on January 08, 2018, 03:19:00 AM
- the bigger you make the channel the longer it lasts before needing a "recharge," but then the more money you tie up.  There is an opportunity cost associated with this money tied up in a channel (modeled as an interest rate by Zohar).  

Zohar shows that the only way fees can be very very small, is if channels are very very richly funded OR if on-chain fees are also very small.  Neither of these conditions will hold however (well outside of a highly-centralized hub-and-spoke model where the hubs control all of the LN channels).
I would much prefer a written source, but I do get the gist of the model, which seems indeed sensible. I would like to see some quantitative estimates on "very very richly founded". In principle, I agree that at first it could be so that you need a mammoth channel to deal with the occasional mammoth payment (or several squirrel payments), but once a system is in place that implements a kind of "packet switching" for payments, splitting them over different channels/routes, that problem will disappear. All it takes for the system to work in a quasi-steady state is the global I/O of the channels to nearly null out, which means little fresh btc need enter/exit the LN.

Alternatively, Average Joe - who runs a LN hub whose net capacity flow is negative (more BTC going out than in) - could send fiat or other low-fee cryptos into some LN-friendly exchange, which in turn would refill Joe's channel with positive capacity. It remains to be seen how the flow will be organized, although until salaries are paid in BTC I imagine normal user channels would send more than they receive on average. The net effect for Joe would be that of "buying moar", which for an enthusiastic LN volunteer (possibly politically motivated), sounds quite desirable.



422. Post 27686376 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Thanks for the summary, Peter!

Quote from: Peter R on January 08, 2018, 03:55:11 AM
Zohar modeled the flow of coins as a random walk.  For example, if a channel starts with Alice and Bob each holding $100 dollars, and if you imagine them routing through their channel N payments of $10 each, we'd expect the channel to be fully lopsided after routing 100 transactions ( [$100 / $10]^2 ).
It might actually be even worse than that if the transactions are not independent (and I assume they aren't, at least until the salary-in-BTC is a reasonable assumption).

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If recharging the channel costs $30, then fees need to be at least $30 / 100 = $0.30 per transaction per hop.  If it takes 5 hops to route your payment, that is at least $1.50 in fees.  
However, increasing the number of channels per LN node makes the average unbalance converge to a normal (Gaussian) distribution: a bell centered on zero with a standard deviation (width) that grows with average transaction size.

The number of channels can be increased with limited (ideally null) additional financial exposure by making the channels smaller - if the hypothetical transaction slicer/packetizer is in place.

Besides, you're assuming funding a channel costs 15% of the channel capacity (30$ for 200$ capacity). I don't think this is realistic, as the blockchain related funding cost should only be a function of the number of utxos under SW regime. And it would definitely be a SW transaction.

I guess we'll see.



423. Post 27686426 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 08, 2018, 04:14:42 AM
Just to be clear,  those numbers were pulled out of a near total contextualized assessment of BTC market dynamics accounting for historical happenings, momentum and future probabilities of a variety of events that have not yet happened, including trade volume representations, knowns, unknowns and uncertainties.

In other words, I am employing a kind of amalgoratiated "speculation" within conformity of the WO tradition.     Tongue

So...from your ass?
How brutal, Arriemoller!  Roll Eyes



424. Post 27721912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Missed the dip. Too short  Undecided
Come on, missy, do it again for me pleeaze...



425. Post 27744266 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

...and back up.



426. Post 27772995 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 09, 2018, 12:32:17 PM
Well this is a shame.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/08/fund-managers-say-bitcoin-etf-proposals-withdrawn-due-to-sec-concern.html
Translation of SEC concerns: "Futures as implemented now are totally inadequate since they can't manipulate the price."

At least the way I understand it.



427. Post 27773149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 09, 2018, 12:49:48 PM
I actually would regard using LN as the natural progression of scaling up peer to peer payments. Consider that much of the peer to peer traffic on the internet itself which we used to have has moved more to peer - "cloud" - peer system.
Good parallel.

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 09, 2018, 12:49:48 PM
Can't remember the last time I used a torrent program to get data.
... but if some data should get censored everywhere from "cloud peer" systems, it would spread through torrents like wildfire. That is, base blockchain transfers will always be an option, no matter what.



428. Post 27790261 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: afbitcoins on January 09, 2018, 01:17:11 PM
I actually would regard using LN as the natural progression of scaling up peer to peer payments. Consider that much of the peer to peer traffic on the internet itself which we used to have has moved more to peer - "cloud" - peer system.
Good parallel.

Can't remember the last time I used a torrent program to get data.
... but if some data should get censored everywhere from "cloud peer" systems, it would spread through torrents like wildfire. That is, base blockchain transfers will always be an option, no matter what.

Not sure if I understood that correctly but if I did, I could view torrents being replaced by cloud services as a regression from a decentralised system back towards a more centralised one. Cloud services are provided by a small number of large companies.
You're right.

I expressed my thought clumsily. By "good parallel" I meant to make a point with those that are afraid LN means more centralization. It will also reduce costs, as peer-cloud-peer systems do: most peers don't need to keep seeding the torrent.

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Anyway I still find torrents useful.
I also still use them, even if they're not that fashionable anymore. What I failed to convey is that they will still be ready to use, and back in high demand, if (when!) circumstances (censorship) will make them necessary again.

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But anyway, thanks for a civilised response. I prefer reasoned debate than being told to fuck off.
Oh, well, fuck off then.


(J/k hehe...)



429. Post 27810427 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Tentatively climbing back up? A couple of my more adventurous limit buys didn't get filled.



430. Post 27811033 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

14.2
Keep calm and BTFD



431. Post 27835552 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 10, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
Are you guys ready to see BTC lose that no.1 spot on coinmarketcap?

No.

Nothing sadder than a sad, gay, black cowboy Sad

I should probably go write a Country song to properly convey the depths of my sadness...
You could premiere it at the next country music festival. I heard there's a good one in Carolina.



432. Post 27852045 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Meanwhile, the swings continue. They seem narrower. Nearly 14.5k right now (gdax).

Bob, do you have that country song ready yet? Festival planning is in Phase 2.



433. Post 27864041 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 10, 2018, 05:05:34 PM
tulips
I'm not worrying about the current pullback or sideways motion. I'm confident we're headed higher in 2018. Possibly much higher.

The medium-long term future, however, now that gets me thinking. In today's finance news there was ample coverage of both Buffett's and Munger's words. None of them mentioned tulips, but the meaning was clear. I sure imagined their stance on the matter - it's old school finance, for Satoshi's sake! And the guys are not exactly techno-savvy millennials, either. But I don't know why - Buffett's calm, grandfatherly words, spoken with a good-natured smile, unsettled me much more than scumbag Dimon's outburst.

Grandpa Warren said he's not interested in shorting, of course. Why would he? It's finite upside vs infinite downside, and he knows. However, he would like some 5 year puts at a strike price near the current spot, if they existed. What made me cringe was my own thought: "Oh how nice! I'm gonna get some now too... oops, there is no such thing."

Please tell me I'm wrong, or it doesn't matter, or whatever. Explain me why I'm wrong or it doesn't matter, or whatever it is.

Thank you.



434. Post 27867491 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 10, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
It's finite upside vs infinite downside, and he knows.

Like Nassim Taleb (and any proper thinking mathematician), I would think the downside is limited (Bitcoin can't become less than $0) and the upside is unlimited (or: potentially much higher than the downside). The perfect example of an asymmetric bet that Taleb has written extensively about.
Yes, yes. I meant downside/upside for someone shorting bitcoin.


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Buffet, wrong since 2014: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/26/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-a-mirage-why-marc-andreessen-thinks-hes-wrong/#2c391e827f3c
Andreessen did help a little. Thanks, Wekkel! :-)



435. Post 27885841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Managed to get meself a lil moar korn.



436. Post 27885888 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 11, 2018, 05:14:31 AM
volume on the bounce looks bigger than on the dump to me
Maybe, but I think we're not done with the ups and downs yet. Cycles seem to get shorter though.



437. Post 27886214 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

A nice time to get in the WOT, ztay Smiley



438. Post 27886476 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 10, 2018, 09:49:21 PM
Ok. Extracted just north of $1M @ $14,500 USD/BTC.

Once the wire hits my account, I'll load up for round 2.
Very well done! Feel lighter eh?
Now that you have more time on your hands, we'd really like to hear that country song.



439. Post 27887161 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Down again, at least a bit. Still higher than my latest limit buy though  Grin



440. Post 27898615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: doc12 on January 11, 2018, 07:48:12 AM
We need our own Bitcoin Exchange. Our legal entity must be set on a Moon (yes we said we are going to then moon, what are we waiting for?) site.
Then no petty government shall come and shut down our exchange. If somebody picks the idea that would be great.


With Atomic Swaps and some more Anon Tech the Party will be over for govts.

Exchange will be everywhere and nowhare.
The problem is how to get fiat in and out without a bank. I haven't researched the problem or the proposed solutions yet. Can anybody share pointers?



441. Post 27912428 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 11, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
Now that you have more time on your hands, we'd really like to hear that country song.

No sad country song. Sorry to disappoint Sad
But but but... the Neumann thingy...
I think many of us would settle for a happy country song, or a country song about some rich cowboy who doesn't give a "ratt's ass"* about nuttin...

*TM JJGee

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 11, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
Retirement plan is back on schedule, now that I've pulled the trigger on the first batch. Want to get my liquidations done this quarter for tax purposes.

I wonder, do you feel any urge to buy it all back at $13,000 ?  Roll Eyes

Nope. I feel the urge to retire more than buying back. I have "enough" BTC to last me this lifetime after I've done liquidating for retirement.
Seriously now, there's no need to rush the second batch, is there? With a handsome short-term upside potential such as now, I mean. Can't the taxman wait if necessary?



442. Post 27912741 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Kahoy01 on January 11, 2018, 01:25:09 PM
The volume of the BTC in all exchanger is keep increasing. I know that next week ia the real deal because we can see again that bitcoin will hit $19,000 per each. We should ride in the roller coaster.
The next days are critical.



443. Post 27924959 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on January 11, 2018, 04:42:41 PM
How was it with a paper wallet? If I have 10 Bitcoins on a paper wallet, I have to sent them all at once to the exchange? Otherwise the rest will get lost?
No!
You can prepare a transaction with one input
and two outputs:

INPUT: your paper wallet's address
OUTPUT 1: the exchange's deposit address
OUTPUT 2: another address YOU own - either paper, hardware, or software wallet. You use this as a CHANGE output.

You sign the transaction as you prefer (I would use Electrum myself, but beware: UPDATE ELECTRUM before opening it!) The computer can (should?) be offline while you sign. Just unplug the cable, turn off wifi or whatever. Save the signed transaction. Then reboot before putting the computer back online.

After doing this, you can broadcast the transaction you saved.



444. Post 27929413 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 11, 2018, 05:53:50 PM
How was it with a paper wallet? If I have 10 Bitcoins on a paper wallet, I have to sent them all at once to the exchange? Otherwise the rest will get lost?

There is a step between having a paper wallet and sending it to the exchange.

You have to import your private key into a hot wallet before sending it to the exchange. When you send less than 10 bitcoins to the exchange, depending upon your hot wallet software, you will either get the remaining coins in a different address or it will go back to your original address (blockchain.info).

Either way, once you import your private key to a hot wallet...it's no longer secure. You need to go through the process to put it on a paper wallet again.

unless you run something like armory where you can create a transaction and sign it on a completely secure offline computing environment, then import that sig to an online box and broadcast it
That's why I suggested he "burns" the address completely, by sending the remains to a change address. So the security of the old key is not an issue anymore.



445. Post 27930769 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 11, 2018, 06:50:05 PM
Ok, so box is just geek for computer, and broadcast is just geek for send, and signing is still a mystery to me.
We do not speak the same language obviously.
Signing, as jojo69 and erre explained, is the process of adding your key to the transaction. The key is the "owner's seal of approval" for each address that is being charged (only 1 address for the simple, most common transactions).

When you add the key, it gets mixed up with the transaction by crypto magic, so that anyone can easily check the owner's seal, without being able to look at it (in other words: unable to steal it). So a signed transaction is safe to broadcast (that's not just "send"- it's "send for the world to see").

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How a turned of phone is less secure than a computer that you geeks run all the time is also a mystery to me.
I have no problem what so ever with having my coins on a phone, you are just way to afraid of ghosts.
While you sign, the key is exposed. If someone gets hold of it, they can sign any transaction in your name (with ALL your coins from that key's address). So the signing process is best done offline, in a safe box, which a phone generally isn't. What's more, if the key just lives in the phone (which it must if you can sign from it!), when the phone gets compromised you risk losing every single satoshi on it.




446. Post 27931193 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 11, 2018, 07:04:19 PM
We got Bitcoin at record highs above $10k and anyone in Alts saw his estate rise twofold this December/January alone and you speak about a bear market?

I am confused  Shocked
We're spoiled brats, that's what.



447. Post 27931599 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 11, 2018, 07:10:56 PM
Well, since I don't know what signing is, I never sign. When I move my coins I just scan or type the address of the recipient and hit send.
When you hit send, you are signing without knowing. Without a valid signature, no coin moves!

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Or somehow get a glimpse of my seed. And neither of that is possible. Believe me, they are stored safely.
The seed is even more powerful: it's the key to the keymaker shop. With the seed, ALL the keys of ALL the addresses in that wallet are accessible. The whole wallet, not a single address, can go bust.

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You guys are way too paranoid.
It's not that we are paranoid. It's that they are after us!!



448. Post 27993603 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: xxxx123abcxxxx on January 12, 2018, 04:28:08 PM
15-JAN-2018

Crypto Black Monday

https://redd.it/7pxg0d
Oh, boy. Crypto is done! You'd better sell it all soon.
However, you're lucky today. I am a generous person and will save you, with a modest fee for all extra risk (given crypto is dead, you will understand it's nothing personal).

We can arrange an OTC sale through escrow for all your coins.
PM me if interested.

 Tongue Tongue Tongue



449. Post 28120510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 14, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
And, please explain where is dee roachie poachie in all of this?  

What is dee Roachie poachie saying/doing?
He's the guy behind the camera, my dear Watson.



450. Post 28143084 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 14, 2018, 09:49:38 PM
https://themerkle.com/capital-one-refuses-to-let-customers-buy-cryptocurrency-from-any-exchange/
final whimperings of fiat demise

Here's how that article ends.

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The big question is why Capital One has made this decision all of a sudden. It is certainly a move that will upset a lot of people and create some negative PR at the same time. While cryptocurrency may still be considered a niche market right now, interest in Bitcoin and altcoins has never been higher. If enough people ditch Capital One because of its aggressive stance toward cryptocurrencies, interesting things may happen in the future. It seems highly unlikely that will be the case, though.

Unlikely or not, the only way I've found effective to deal with a bank is switching to another.



451. Post 28202542 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: STT on January 15, 2018, 06:18:55 PM
Now for Bitcoin, I think value is Sat/byte in ratio to speed perhaps and then contrast it vs other crypto contenders and of course account for mass transactional volume.  Does Visa beat Bitcoin for cost, speed and volume, I do think these are the measures to watch for an influence to macro moves in price and market interest.
Q. What's Visa's speed, volume and cost (cost dollars/moved dollars) for uncensored transactions?
A. Speed = 0, volume = 0, cost = infinite.

Note the costraint: uncensored is key.

Different leagues. Apples and oranges. You get juice anyway, but straight up comparison is misleading.




452. Post 28220734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: AlexGR on January 16, 2018, 12:58:18 AM
Do you claim that every BTC user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client (often erroneously referred to as a 'full node')? Do you claim that no BCH user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client? If the answers respectively are not 'yes' and 'yes', then I fail to see what your point is. Neither is purely peer-to-peer, and neither is purely client-server.

Per your rationale, if BTC, say, has 20.000 nodes and BCH has 20 nodes, they are the same, in their neither being pure p2p or pure client/server... yet, if you aren't intellectually dishonest, you realize that there is a big quality difference.

Of course jbreher's being intellectually rogueish. He's smart enough to know better.



453. Post 28221500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 16, 2018, 01:26:44 AM
Do you claim that every BTC user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client (often erroneously referred to as a 'full node')? Do you claim that no BCH user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client? If the answers respectively are not 'yes' and 'yes', then I fail to see what your point is. Neither is purely peer-to-peer, and neither is purely client-server.

Per your rationale, if BTC, say, has 20.000 nodes and BCH has 20 nodes, they are the same, in their neither being pure p2p or pure client/server... yet, if you aren't intellectually dishonest, you realize that there is a big quality difference.

Of course jbreher's being intellectually rogueish. He's smart enough to know better.

Smart enough to know that nobody of 'normal' means that truly wants to run a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client -- be it BTC or BCH -- is unable to do so.
But but... farmers in Africa?
But but... the democratic finance that Ver says he dreams of, while Bitcoin forgot it and it's only for the elites?

It's the same concept at the basis of PoW: Working must be hard, checking must be easy. And stay easy.



454. Post 28221534 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Searing on January 16, 2018, 01:39:02 AM

Yes, bitcoin is death indeed Smiley

Was the death of my 'wage slave' job, I retired yesterday Jan 14th...all due to BTC....living on mining revenue and in HODL mode on BTC and other cryptos...

Spent today, puttering around the house doing chores....been a wage slave so long..kinda clueless on how to approach this...retiring early stuff...

kinda surreal in fact...., on what to do...I've no clue, yet, in that, once you wake up retired...everything suddenly is OPTIONAL..you need to do that day!

....clueless presently...but I'll figure it out!
I'm sure you will.
Congrats on making it Searing!  Smiley



455. Post 28234447 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 16, 2018, 03:39:53 AM
(snip)
(snip)
It's the same concept at the basis of PoW: Working must be hard, checking must be easy. And stay easy.

So what is your point here? Do you assert that farmers in Africa are able to run a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client for BTC are fully able to, but are utterly unable to do so for BCH?
Again! Simplifying things down to 1/0, "fully able"/"utterly unable" is quite below you. It's a matter of degrees. Come on.

I am not a farmer and don't live in Africa, but running a "fully-validating, non-mining wallet client" is possible for me on the BTC chain, albeit not always comfortable bandwidth-wise. It would be nearly impossible for me to do the same on the BCH chain, if the miners would get their shit together and stick to the big blocks they loved so much, rather than jumping wildly from one size to the other.

Let's keep this discussion as it is for now and give it a few months, will we? LN is coming.

(Hint: a "fully-validating, non-mining wallet client" is what the rest of the world calls a full node.)



456. Post 28284429 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

So, I guess this is finally Masterluc's expected correction down to 10k.



457. Post 28286317 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

I've placed a largish limit buy at a fairly low price. I doubt it will get filled, but you never know with crypto, do you?



458. Post 28288217 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: explorer on January 16, 2018, 10:41:24 PM
inanimate kitteh rebound?
Deceased pussy bobbing.

EDIT: I have a certain fondness for pussies that bob, especially in certain locations near my own body. I like them still in existence, though.



459. Post 28355573 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

I also read Masterluc's last phrase as "Further (down) than 10k makes no sense to me."

Now we're over 10k, but I feel another plunge coming. However, I think the bears will be out of steam soon. I bought some more. Still have a few scraps of fiat to burn. After that, she can start to get back up when she feels like it. Thanks.



460. Post 28368508 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

I misread masterlucs's post. Biodom got it right.

Quote from: Biodom on January 17, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
bad google translate.
ml says:
Бoльшe 10к нe имeeт cмыcлa зaxoдить c мoeй тoчки зpeния.

Better to translate like this:
From my [ml] point of view, it does not make sense to buy above 10K [here].

Зaxoдить as in "open a position". It seems to imply one ought to be flat when buying.

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My interpretation: he was right as we dropped close to 9K ($9150 on polo) and when he was posting we were at about 11K.
We shall see if we will revisit 9K or even 8K relatively soon. the first phrase indicate to buy like a mofo somewhere here and his prior advice was 9K. Darn it, so far he was right on the money.

Indeed.



461. Post 28368693 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: TERA2 on January 17, 2018, 10:22:59 PM
Todays trades...
buy btc at 9300 and sell at 11700 (will rebuy)
buy eth at 800 and sell at 1015
buy xrp at 0.92 and sell at 1.38

Tera2, you come across as a bearish troll, or as some would say a nutjob... but for once I have to subscribe. I would be much happier if I'd done that, by 1000 ratt's asses!



462. Post 28371082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 18, 2018, 03:07:45 AM
Todays trades...
buy btc at 9300 and sell at 11700 (will rebuy)
buy eth at 800 and sell at 1015
buy xrp at 0.92 and sell at 1.38

Tera2, you come across as a bearish troll, or as some would say a nutjob... but for once I have to subscribe. I would be much happier if I'd done that, by 1000 ratt's asses!
There's no subscribption. These are completed trades. I wouldnt expect those levels (bottom) to be reached again today or for a while.

I sound like a troll because I am always going against whatever the current market sentiment is. Coincidentally these are the same qualities of a good trader. I guess you need to be a troll to trade!

And now... for my chainsaw juggling act.

Oh gaaaawd!!!!!!   Roll Eyes
 To what low levels have we traversed WO participants?

Phew... I was expecting more violence in your retort.
Maybe we got away with it only because juggling chainsaws makes for a better show than catching falling knives?

Actually, as far as buying when it goes down etc, I must admit that would have been a really good move.
My lowest buy hasn't been filled, I haven't sold anything on the little way up, and I didn't have the balls (or shamelessness?) to step into ETH or (God Forbid!) XRP.



463. Post 28372936 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Alibaba Launches Cryptocurrency Mining Platform
https://www.investopedia.com/news/alibaba-launching-crypto-platform/
Not Amazon yet.



464. Post 28396149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on January 18, 2018, 11:04:05 AM
We're weak ass ratt hands! Don't sugarcoat our failure.
Nice to see that phrase is taking off. I am a huge supporter, too!  Grin



465. Post 28397922 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: TERA2 on January 18, 2018, 12:20:24 PM
LOL, when BTC shills understand that their shitcoin as-well can be dump & pump no matter all bright stories abut decentralization, freedom and etc.

What a pathetic community
Is this roach?
Don't think so. Writing style doesn't check. Opening "LOL" gives it off straight away.



466. Post 28398706 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 17, 2018, 06:24:06 AM
middlemen
metals as being a hedge
permissioned ledger or tyranny by default.
Now this is like Roach, but atypically missing any mention of evil Jews.


Quote from: vsyc on January 18, 2018, 12:30:47 PM
Until some nerd gets into your PC, laptop, mobile and steals your private key, and what than? You are so hardly fucked with your "StoRe of Valu" because all your wealth gone. And what you will do? Go to police? They will tell you same "Gtfo to where you came from"

In proper bank in proper countries you will get your money back and investigation will trigger.

Or even better, when govs decide to block any Crypto activity. That is going to become a fork war of the decade!

Or fuck yourself, if Bitcoin would not be tied to USD and liquidity would not be tied to Banks in one or other way, you would be buying your fucking pizza for 10,000BTC, so fuck off you boy.
I think I'm only ignoring a couple noisy noobs at the moment. You're getting close to first in line among seasoned users. Go on punk, make my day. But let's do it later, shall we? Your coffee break is over, likely you'd better get back to work at your bank desk.



467. Post 28414256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Starving_Marvin on January 18, 2018, 04:25:43 PM
Going down again. The 12k didn't last. Might go now down to 8k according to many forecasts...
Maybe my last limit buy will trigger?
At least until I get some fresh burnable fiat...



468. Post 28511982 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Feeble weekend half pump starting?



469. Post 28560050 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 20, 2018, 05:17:45 PM
Nice Smiley

I would prefer if we close this week barely in the red (below $13.5K) for a nicer solid green candle next week.
Granted.



470. Post 28583654 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
Is that a double morningstar on the daily chart?  Uber-bullish sign.  Hodl on!
If nothing else, terms like that is why nobody takes chartstrology seriously.
Does "double" mean "two small central candles"?

Chartstrology, indeed. I notice a couple doujis 18-24 days ago. Both inconsequential, right?
(Correct me if I'm wrong, really. This far I worked it out by reading. The next, I just made up.)

In case I worked it out right, how could an expert explain this small failure of TA? Prolly sumthin like the 8/13 Fibonacci in the second house... oops, wave, eh?  Tongue

EDIT Oops sorry guys. Only after I replied did I read xhomerx10 reveal he made it up first.
Chapeau.



471. Post 28618115 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Back to sub 12k. What an aimless weekend.



472. Post 28623087 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: bitcoinvest on January 21, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?Huh
Well, my lowest buy order hasn't been filled yet.
And I haven't sold my granny yet, either.
Guess it means I'm ready.
But but... Granny... I'm not ready for that. Yet.



473. Post 28624003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 21, 2018, 04:34:23 PM
Can you please explain why you are blogging on Steemit then? Are you ignoring all of your proceeds, or are you being a hypocrite? According to your activity, you are sending your proceeds to Poloniex quite regularly. https://steemit.com/@r0achtheunsavory/transfers

Where he's attempting to acquire more btc, of course.  Wink
And after cashing out, he's gonna send all the $$ back home - to Israel.
Ta-dah!! Plot twist.
He is a zionist jew, and he's been trolling us for fun all along!



474. Post 28624894 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 21, 2018, 04:42:29 PM
And after cashing out, he's gonna send all the $$ back home - to Israel.
Ta-dah!! Plot twist.
He is a zionist jew, and he's been trolling us for fun all along!

Truly the dumbest conspiracy ever posted on this forum.
Come on, I was just trying to dispel some drama.
And you've got no idea how dumb I can get with my funny theories.
I'm refraining from publishing them for the time being - just to keep social peace.
You ain't seen nothing.  Wink




475. Post 28627692 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 21, 2018, 05:04:17 PM
Everyone on this thread should collectively pledge to ignore anything the Anti Semite posts for eternity. Responding to it serves no purpose.
Sorry, gentlemand. I got carried away. It happens once in a while. I was just picturing this guy with a kippah and curly long hair posting nazi bull under that infamous nickname and laughing while moving btc to the Tel Aviv Colonial Credit.



476. Post 28647579 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: infofront on January 21, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
The lastest from Masterluc:

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Question:
In past posts, you wrote that the price can hit low, and you advised to buy bottoms down to 8k.
Is the scenario of dropping to 8k still in force?

Answer:
I do not exclude that possibility. But on the wave like a zigzag correction passed.

I think he's saying that a drop to 8K would invalidate his Elliot Wave count. Given his history of correct Elliot wave counts to date, that's quite unlikely.
Can you please link the discussion(s) where Masterluc usually gives out his words of wisdom?



477. Post 28648615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

@thrax, @jojo69, @infofront - Thanks for the links!



478. Post 28650704 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 22, 2018, 02:19:54 AM
I’m wondering whether lightning might turn out to be the privacy layer.

Is lightning + TOR superior to Monero?  Serious question.  I don’t know the answer. 
Not sure if the actual privacy with LN+TOR is actually better than Monero's, but I somewhat doubt it.
However, the sustainability is much better. Monero's chain grows at a nasty rate, while as long as no channel has to be refilled/flushed, LN can theoretically not generate a single blockchain transaction.

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Or maybe we atomic swap tumble through Monero.
There are a few tentative mixing protocols that are LN native, but having atomic swaps with Monero would be a nice option.



479. Post 28674899 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Thanks, HairyMaclairy!

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 22, 2018, 05:39:39 AM
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

(snip)
...

Acknowledgements to /u/shichyah1 on Reddit
I enjoyed this. A Neal Stephenson flavored quickie.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 22, 2018, 05:56:08 AM
Lightning node how to:  https://medium.com/@dougvk/run-your-own-mainnet-lightning-node-2d2eab628a8b
Yay! Another quality post. I wonder why every LN howto I've come across involves cloud computing. Is building and running a LN node on a consumer grade box/connection unrealistic? It doesn't look that bandwidth-hungry, at least for now. More or less like a moderately active Tor Browser session, likely?





480. Post 28679977 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 22, 2018, 11:51:59 AM
Yay! Another quality post. I wonder why every LN howto I've come across involves cloud computing. Is building and running a LN node on a consumer grade box/connection unrealistic? It doesn't look that bandwidth-hungry, at least for now. More or less like a moderately active Tor Browser session, likely?


Thanks for the props.  I think it’s the requirement for an “always online” connnection. Just easier with cloud.  

Don’t ask me to explain what happens if your node goes offline.  I don’t know.
I do, at least qualitatively.

In Alice's absence, some malicious counterparty (say, Bob) might try to cheat by broadcasting a previous channel state to undo his latest spend. However, if Alice - or anyone else, for that matter - notices and broadcasts the legitimate, later state as signed by both Alice and Bob, cheater Bob loses everything and the whole channel amount is forfeited to Alice. So you either have to stay online or hire some bounty hunter to patrol the network while you're away. Of course, the hunter gets a piece of the cake.

The deadline for catching such cheating is one week. I believe a bounty hunter market will arise, with aggressive price competition. In principle, it should be possible to hire a multitude of hunters. The first to out the perp wins. No single hunter needs to be online 24/7, as long as there are enough of them (including Alice herself).




481. Post 28680628 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: vroom on January 22, 2018, 12:02:01 PM
(snip)

Yay! Another quality post. I wonder why every LN howto I've come across involves cloud computing. Is building and running a LN node on a consumer grade box/connection unrealistic? It doesn't look that bandwidth-hungry, at least for now. More or less like a moderately active Tor Browser session, likely?

no cloud needed. cloud is not even mentioned in this tutorial. install docker on your linux system and run the commands from the tutorial.
Well, cloud isn't mentioned explicitly, but Digital Ocean is.
I'll try the homespun solution, install docker and all.
Thanks vroom!



482. Post 28682756 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Maicol792 on January 22, 2018, 01:35:02 PM
It's time to buy my friends  Cool
My lowest limit buy is still unfilled, but if 10k breaks down it might go through.
As soon as the stock market opens, I'm gonna eat a moderate loss on some underperforming stock and try to get myself some more cheap coins.



483. Post 28691206 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: vroom on January 22, 2018, 12:02:01 PM

no cloud needed. cloud is not even mentioned in this tutorial. install docker on your linux system and run the commands from the tutorial.
Hello vroom, I'd like some help.

After some thought, I'd like to try installing lightningd along my already running bitcoind. Which means, I would like to avoid building one more copy/instance of bitcoind inside the Docker container. This probably means no private network between bitcoind and lightningd, but plain old loopback or similar.

Do you think it can be done? Any caveats, gotchas, likely pitfalls etc?



484. Post 28696249 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 22, 2018, 04:50:24 PM
Do you think it can be done? Any caveats, gotchas, likely pitfalls etc?

Along these lines, I'm looking to build myself a "proper" server to run Bitcoind and LND. Ideally RAID 10 for the boot volume, and RAID 10 for the blockchain/LND volume.

Figure software RAID under Ubuntu is good enough (?)
I would suggest a dedicated NAS with zfs (FreeBSD). Mostly like RAID, only better.
A dedicated ethernet cable between server and NAS would provide adequate disk bandwidth. Or, likely, you could actually manage to run bitcoind and lightningd on the NAS itself. As for the form factor, there are dedicated cabinets that accommodate 1-12 disks, with little leftover space except for the motherboard.



485. Post 28700379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: vroom on January 22, 2018, 05:42:08 PM
Figure software RAID under Ubuntu is good enough (?)

software raid works but it requires some more knowledge and care.

I had troublesome experiences with soft RAID under Linux (it was Suse at the time, not Ubuntu). On the other hand, zfs treated me very well. 3 hardware disk failures got recovered without a single glitch.

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I like the HP ProLiant MicroServers. 4 drives and nice remote management.
I have one of those, too. Definitely like it a lot. Going to get myself another for media files later this year. It keeps a decent temperature even in hot weather, which can't be said of some of my custom rigs. The remote management is quite nice indeed. Only drawback I've found: it's really slow to boot, but if you don't take it down daily you will barely notice. By the way, my unit runs FreeBSD/zfs. With timed snapshots and whatnots, I feel safe.



486. Post 28701329 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 22, 2018, 06:35:36 PM
Going to get myself another for media files later this year.

I can't speak highly enough, or more practically recommend, Synology products, over any alternative, for media/file serving.

Run two of their NAS' in my house and they are fucking bulletproof. Rebuilt/expanded their original volumes a couple times now as my needs grew, with minor issues (worst case was I had to ssh into a box, and manually shutdown services before fscking the main volume, to resolve issues that prevented me from further expanding).
A friend whose opinion I highly value also has lots of praise for Synology. However, when he saw my units he fell in love with the HP and got one little later. I'm sure they make good products, but they have proprietary software, and that's a show stopper for me.



487. Post 28701565 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2018, 06:39:36 PM
I think it’s the requirement for an “always online” connnection. Just easier with cloud.  

Don’t ask me to explain what happens if your node goes offline.  I don’t know.

It enables each of your channel counterparts to broadcast transactions stealing the value you have locked up in that channel, for one. Amongst other ills.
And gives said counterpart the chance to have their whole assets on that channel forfeited by you if anyone snitches on them within a week. I wouldn't try that.

By the way, the phrase you wrote and I underlined could be read as meaning that there are several counterparts per channel. There are only two actors for each channel: yourself and the other end (counterpart).



488. Post 28701862 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Those are the good posts, jbreher.  Grin



489. Post 28705431 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

These are the bad posts, jbreher.  Angry

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2018, 06:53:05 PM
I'll try the homespun solution, install docker and all.

I'd be interested in your Internet bandwidth consumption, should you be wiling to share.
I will post some data, but don't hold your breath. I'll need some free time to install the thing - starting with Docker - and some more to figure out how to measure LN's bandwitdh tax unbundled from bitcoind's base requirements. Got any suggestions?

Now we get to the "bad boy" part.
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My (perhaps flawed) understanding is that in the current implementation, all nodes broadcast all channel state changes to all other nodes. This is necessary, of course, as nobody yet knows how to do decentralized permissionless anonymous path route discovery.
That's incorrect. Nobody yet knows how to do decentralized permissionless anonymous OPTIMAL path route discovery. Heuristic methods with stored forward tables do work reasonably well. Several mesh-like networks work, without a single tear about being suboptimal.

EDIT: not sure, but optimality (or substantial improvements on route length) could be achieved by permissioning just the network-shaping, route discovery functions. Permissions could be earned by showing reliability and revoked for rogue nodes that systematically misreport.

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For those playing along at home, you'll no doubt note that (should my understanding be correct), BW consumption scales at O(n^2).

I'm sure it will improve when the routing invention breakthrough occurs.
Of course - the clueless developers! D'oh, what an unforgivable oversight! The system they implemented is doomed. They chose the SAN (Spam All Network) algorithm for both route discovery and node state update. They slept during their networking lessons, or was it calculus? So they failed to notice that bandwidth grows quadratically with the number of nodes. This way, it's almost as bad as if one increased the block size. But who would ever think of that?

Out of sarcasm: I'll never believe the protocol broadcasts data mindlessly. On TOR transport, link capacity is precious and doesn't get flooded with irrelevant data. I've never studied the matter in detail, but as an informed guess, I'd go for something like neighborhood broadcasting with empirical discovery of TTL (max distance for broadcasting, initially conservatively low). Once you've found a route that works, you keep it until it stops working - or TOR signals it's time to change circuit. Randomized timing etc. are all nice options to obfuscate things a little more and make network analysis harder.



490. Post 28705822 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
I think it’s the requirement for an “always online” connnection. Just easier with cloud.  

Don’t ask me to explain what happens if your node goes offline.  I don’t know.

It enables each of your channel counterparts to broadcast transactions stealing the value you have locked up in that channel, for one. Amongst other ills.
And gives said counterpart the chance to have their whole assets on that channel forfeited by you if anyone snitches on them within a week. I wouldn't try that.

Comprehensive list of entities currently operating such a service:
1)  Huh
Currently: you and yourself. You must hurry and do it within a week. Can you switch on your LN node once a week until it syncs your own channels only?
Outsourcing to to others, uh, well, hm, we're still working on it  Cheesy

However, as usage increases, IF (and it's a big IF) this kind of cheat should become popular (which I don't think, being too risky because it implies you do have a stake in the channel - you're not just stealing someone else's coins), then I'm sure several such services will appear, as the marginal cost of running a patrol service alongside your own LN node is so low as to be negligible. Like buying a cheap lottery ticket. Find a thief, grab some coin. Why not? Let me engage in a flight of fantasy: future LN clients for desktop machines will have patrolling functions included, and there will be a switch NOT to run a patrol service. Working as a part-time guardian will be the default.



491. Post 28707396 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: podyx on January 22, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
What the fuck is going on...
Another shake of the tree, while the bears still have some breath left.



492. Post 28709663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
are you ready to go under 8000€ / BTC ?

SHUT YOUR FILTHY WHORE MOUTH !!!

 Kiss

Relax, Bob. It's actually $9800. We've seen it happen already, might still happen again on one of the next, weakening, shakes, if only because they start shaking from a lower level.



493. Post 28757119 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2018, 06:53:05 PM
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For those playing along at home, you'll no doubt note that (should my understanding be correct), BW consumption scales at O(n^2).
I'm sure it will improve when the routing invention breakthrough occurs.
Of course - the clueless developers! D'oh, what an unforgivable oversight! The system they implemented is doomed. They chose the SAN (Spam All Network) algorithm for both route discovery and node state update. They slept during their networking lessons, or was it calculus? So they failed to notice that bandwidth grows quadratically with the number of nodes. This way, it's almost as bad as if one increased the block size. But who would ever think of that?
Hyperbole duly noted. Be that as it may, do you have any evidence that suggests that my understanding is incorrect?

Honestly, I don't know which solution has eventually been adopted in this first version of the LN, but already in 2016 the proposed method was significantly better than the naive SAN technique you hint at.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@emabfuri/bitfury-bitcoin-routing-lightning-network-solution

Here's a relevant excerpt.
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Using a fog of war like design, the collected information by the routing algorithm “includes channels within a low hop-distance and paths to randomly selected nodes further away… As a result, a node will have a well-illuminated map of its local neighborhood within the network, with random patches of visibility further away enabled by the selection of beacon nodes.”

So, it's not an initially low TTL that gets conservatively increased as I had wildly imagined, but not so far off either: closer nodes are exhaustively enumerated, while a small set of distant nodes is selected pseudorandomly.

There is a more detailed pdf paper floating around. If you study it, a summary will be well received. I don't have the time or energy right now. If I get either or both, I'd rather actually test how LN works for me, with my own node.

http://bitfury.com/content/5-white-papers-research/whitepaper_flare_an_approach_to_routing_in_lightning_network_7_7_2016.pdf

Inb4 Fyookball - not to mean you would stoop that low, but just in case ;-)
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800
It's mostly BS with truth mixed in  - the most dangerous form of BS.



494. Post 28757498 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2018, 06:53:05 PM
I'll try the homespun solution, install docker and all.
I'd be interested in your Internet bandwidth consumption, should you be wiling to share.
I will post some data, but don't hold your breath. I'll need some free time to install the thing - starting with Docker - and some more to figure out how to measure LN's bandwitdh tax unbundled from bitcoind's base requirements. Got any suggestions?

I dunno.... filter a wireshark dump of all port 8333 traffic? Wild speculation. I don't know how LN comms are routed within the host networking layer.

I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark. Well, when I get to that I'll do what I have to.
BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).



495. Post 28763932 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

11k broken. First sign of life or a passing illusion?



496. Post 28764549 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: CistaCista on January 23, 2018, 04:34:41 PM
Ok I sold some. My sacrifice to the sharks. Price will go up now. I have excellent record for selling the bottom.
Thanks for the 12% rise!
We do appreciate your help, ztay. But politeness apart, next time just hodl, will you?



497. Post 28765166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on January 23, 2018, 04:44:27 PM
so you bitcoiners admit its a scam just to keep your greed driving...
By your words, I assume you're not a bitcoiner.

A few questions arise instantly.

- What are you if not a bitcoiner? Bcasher? Fiater?

- What are you doing here if not a bitcoiner? General trolling? Nuisance training?



498. Post 28765669 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

About tether - I agree with Torque, it's going to be an issue sooner or later. I wish those audits were properly carried through, situation found regular, and details published. That would be superbullish.



499. Post 28765844 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on January 23, 2018, 04:53:25 PM
What are you doing here

i told people here to cash out at 12k$, which i did...mostly...still some shitcoins on binance
Oh, I see. Sorry if I came across a bit aggressive.
In hindsight, thanks for the advice - although I didn't notice, so I couldn't heed it.
Next time, please, advise cashing out at 19k.
Anticipated thanks.



500. Post 28766408 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 23, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
So what do you think, guys ? Sell my next block @ $11.5k or hold out for $12.5k (likely within 24 hours...)
My balls aren't made of crystal, dude.

(You're my role model here - is this reply Lawblawish enough?)



501. Post 28777379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Dunkelheit667 on January 23, 2018, 05:38:10 PM
I'll try the homespun solution, install docker and all.
I'd be interested in your Internet bandwidth consumption, should you be wiling to share.
I will post some data, but don't hold your breath. I'll need some free time to install the thing - starting with Docker - and some more to figure out how to measure LN's bandwitdh tax unbundled from bitcoind's base requirements. Got any suggestions?

I dunno.... filter a wireshark dump of all port 8333 traffic? Wild speculation. I don't know how LN comms are routed within the host networking layer.

I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark. Well, when I get to that I'll do what I have to.
BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).
No need to install any additional package. You can utilize iptables as shown there: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/398176
Thanks for the tip. Bookmarked for later reference.



502. Post 28814276 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 24, 2018, 02:54:57 AM
I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark.

Well, wireshark is about as universal a network analysis tool as exists.

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BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).

Exactly. Filter out all 8333 and what are you left with? Traffic not to/from your validating client - which I believe was what you were looking for in your query.
I'd be left with the rest of the traffic - which isn't LN alone. I'd better filter to select LN traffic only. But that's a minor detail.



503. Post 28814780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 24, 2018, 02:51:45 AM
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For those playing along at home, you'll no doubt note that (should my understanding be correct), BW consumption scales at O(n^2).
I'm sure it will improve when the routing invention breakthrough occurs.
(snip)
(snip)

Honestly, I don't know which solution has eventually been adopted in this first version of the LN, but already in 2016 the proposed method was significantly better than the naive SAN technique you hint at.

Great. What does that have to do with the shipping implementation? Anything?

Let's summarize our path so far:
you: I'll try it out
me: cool - please let me know about your BW use. My understanding is it broadcasts all state to everyone
you: oh posh! how dare you assume the devs did not do better
me: well, that's what I'm led to believe - you have better info?
you: no, but here's a possibly relevant scrap of a possibly workable design that would do better

I mean, I don't mean to misrepresent anything here, but that's the way it looks from my vantage point.

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https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@emabfuri/bitfury-bitcoin-routing-lightning-network-solution

Here's a relevant excerpt.
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Using a fog of war like design, the collected information by the routing algorithm “includes channels within a low hop-distance and paths to randomly selected nodes further away… As a result, a node will have a well-illuminated map of its local neighborhood within the network, with random patches of visibility further away enabled by the selection of beacon nodes.”

I often write with rhetorical metaphorical flourish as well. But not within a technical specification that I expect to be taken seriously. So in addition to questioning this excerpt's relevance to current code, I also question it's author's capability.

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So, it's not an initially low TTL that gets conservatively increased as I had wildly imagined, but not so far off either: closer nodes are exhaustively enumerated, while a small set of distant nodes is selected pseudorandomly.

Which still leaves quite the bulk elided from view. In what way is this anonymous? How does it handle nodes dropping off the network? And the ensuing rejoins? 'Beacons'? Is that a euphemism for trusted intermediary?

It just sounds like we're being asked to buy a pig in a poke. Again, my assumptions could be wrong. But life has taught me well that SW projects are rarely underpromised and overdelivered.

That excerpt is from a nontechnical post. That's why it has language suitable for laypersons. I pasted it in to give you the gist of it. However, there are fewer "metaphorical flourishes" than you think.

"Beacon node", for example. In this context the term has a precise technical meaning.

I linked the full pdf with specs and more technical details, but the link got "elided from view" in your reply. It would be useful to read it before going on with this discussion.

http://bitfury.com/content/5-white-papers-research/whitepaper_flare_an_approach_to_routing_in_lightning_network_7_7_2016.pdf


NOTE: Emphatic bold while quoting jbreher is mine.



504. Post 28854085 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: elg on January 24, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
If Bitcoin closes above 11147 in 2.75 hours from now, that would be bullish and Boblawblaw should then be able to stick to his retirement plans and sell @ 12500 very soon.


why 11147?
Because no lube!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



505. Post 28865000 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 25, 2018, 02:57:06 AM
Ok I checked here and you can move your phone number to another phone company, but they will send you a new sim card with the number. So no magic online stuff. Would that not be a good way to get rid of the scamming in the rest of the world.

The number is being rerouted to a new sim, I don't see how this protects you. Most countries have signed up to mobile number porting, and the switch will be done on a back-end database.

They will physically send you a new sim with your old number. So even if someone else somehow get hold of your digital bank ID and manages to move you to another phone company that company will send the new sim with your old number to you physically trough the royal Swedish mail, (or one of their private competitors).
(Try my hand at this too.)
I think what yefi is trying to say is that before Swedish Mail has the time to deliver your card, one more SIM card has been made by someone else with their, say, laser printer (I'm faking the details here).

For all I know, it's entirely possible.



506. Post 28865510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 25, 2018, 03:18:26 AM

I think what yefi is trying to say is that before Swedish Mail has the time to deliver your card, one more SIM card has been made by someone else with their, say, laser printer (I'm faking the details here).

For all I know, it's entirely possible.

You mean like cloning?

The effect is similar, but it's different.

What they do is make a new SIM while forcing a fake operator transfer on you. I don't know how, that's why I faked the details.



507. Post 28903334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 25, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
So my banks just complained. Apparently churning too much money in and out of exchanges has them worried shitless that the taxman will complain. Might have to register as a business to keep trading at the current levels of volume. Not sure I wanna deal with that shit. Especially the part where I have to give up half the profit. Blah.
To me, this is worrying more than annoying. Any hint of coordination among banks? How long between the two complaints?



508. Post 28940338 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Elwar on January 26, 2018, 03:39:53 AM
So I have been thinking about the Lightning Network for a bit as far as running a node goes.

From my limited understanding of it, if you are the node between 2 people you basically fund the transactions going through, they sign a transaction to you, you sign a transaction to them for the equal amount each (so you need twice the amount for the channel),
You don't need twice the amount. It's just the amount because of the way sequence and timelocks are set up to work.

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then throughout the length of time of the channel being open you sign transactions back and forth with the people connected to your node then settle everything at the end or whenever someone wants to settle the balance.

Firstly, is that somewhat accurate? I am sure it is super complicated beyond that, otherwise I would know it better.
More than somewhat. Yes, the details are hairy, but that's the basic idea.  One important missing piece is that you need to to have more than 1 channel open in order to route funds. You can close one of your channels when you feel like it.

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My question (if that is accurate) is, could I sign every possible transaction for each node connecting to me offline, then only move the signed transactions to a hot database that I pull the transactions from as needed?

For example, A and B connect to me with 1 BTC each. I copy their public key to an offline machine and have it generate a million transactions each (or however many are needed) to account for every possible signed transaction then transfer that to a computer online.

Also, if this is possible, what prevents me from signing all of those transactions then spending the bitcoins somewhere else. Or is this what SegWit fixed?
No you can't do that. You only get some coin from Alice that you must pass on to the opposite end of one of your open channels. Each channel has only two ends: you and the other guy. So you get money on one channel (Alice), you pass it on to Charlie, which will help with another hop, until the coins reach the final destination - Bob, but none of the intermediate nodes knows that. You can't withhold the funds within your node. They must travel onwards.



509. Post 28968292 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: RobSteward on January 26, 2018, 07:30:35 AM
For example, A and B connect to me with 1 BTC each. I copy their public key to an offline machine and have it generate a million transactions each (or however many are needed) to account for every possible signed transaction then transfer that to a computer online.

Also, if this is possible, what prevents me from signing all of those transactions then spending the bitcoins somewhere else. Or is this what SegWit fixed?
No you can't do that. You only get some coin from Alice that you must pass on to the opposite end of one of your open channels. Each channel has only two ends: you and the other guy. So you get money on one channel (Alice), you pass it on to Charlie, which will help with another hop, until the coins reach the final destination - Bob, but none of the intermediate nodes knows that. You can't withhold the funds within your node. They must travel onwards.


And in this scenario could we interpret every single channel "section" (aka my combined 2 connections (Alice to me, and me to Charlie) as a tx confirmation? Thus, a passthrough of let's say 5 channels equals 5 confirmations?
No. Each intermediate hop (channel fund movement) is confirmed almost instantaneously. So the sending node gets its balance back at once.



510. Post 28968420 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 26, 2018, 07:34:26 AM
Over 100 LN nodes running now..20% of all nodes now SegWit and growing. Ver is a sociopath.

Just ordered a Lenovo x3100 M5 with 4 x 4 TB hot-swap drives running RAID 10, to run my new bitcoind and lnd node.

Will be running Ubuntu.

Fun project I'm looking towards. Figure I'll fund the LN node with 2 BTC and see what happens.
You'll have to open at least 48 channels, since at the moment each channel has max 0.042 BTC capacity.



511. Post 28979281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on January 26, 2018, 03:50:11 PM
Looks like CME drop was a damp squib, and people are gonna panic to buy back in.

This guy reckons its unlikely, but there could be a last minute sell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7syd2c/expiring_futures_tomorrow_not_so_fast/

At what time (CET) they expire exactly again? I am pretty sure some of the actions in the past 24 Hours are related.
4 PM Greenwich Time - I think it's CET-1, but do check.



512. Post 29055873 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: rezurect007 on January 27, 2018, 04:10:26 PM
https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/bitfinex-fails-to-perform-promised-audits-instead-they-have-a-shareholder-tell-everyone-its-all-965ae7037b5d
https://twitter.com/tetherprinter

This is bad.. I was really hoping they'd let an audit happen to prove their books were good.
As each day passes i really think they cooked their books using Tether.
Rather than mandating KYC maybe the govt should mandate audits on the exchanges.

My thoughts exactly. It was my main crypto-hope recently that they could successfully withstand an audit. But I've always been skeptical about it. I am afraid bitfinex with its tether business and other malpratices is due to cause serious trouble soon.



513. Post 29056167 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 27, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
Bids are still growing while asks have remained relatively stable. Someone wave to Bob as we go by please...
Worried about cowboys chasing you?  Tongue



514. Post 29056599 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: True Myth on January 27, 2018, 07:17:09 PM
I for one hope we can all wave to Bob soon. He seems too stressed for someone on the brink of early retirement with a bag full of BTC. The man deserves some relaxation.  Grin
He does. And I think he will be all right very soon.
But I was slightly and nastily suggesting that Toxic might have a problem with the "some relaxation" issue while Bob's on horseback and his bf is away ;-)



515. Post 29075288 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on January 28, 2018, 03:13:08 AM

It would be fascinating if in the future ...


... and all impossible futures generally are fascinating.

Looks like the whole tx spam job by Ver's minions, Wu, Armstrong, Rizun, jbreher, cyberdoc and co. is officially a failed exercise in self-falattio

https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#6m

time to find a new FUD spam song for bitcoin's official losers brigade.

Do we have proof that there was spam from the BCASH camp?  Did anyone do the forensics on that?
No proof as in theorem, but lots of hard numerical evidence showing suspect correlation.
I suspect the operation was only economical with regionally subsidized energy back in China.
As soon as you become a smaller part of the earth mining pool, the cost of spamming grows like 1 - 1/n, if your hashrate is 1/n of the total.
I'd challenge a malicious opponent to pull this off in, say, Canada.



516. Post 29075498 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Enjel on January 28, 2018, 04:23:26 AM
But how many people actually bought Bitcoin at the top, or XRP at the top?
Wild guessing exercise:

XRP, uh I don't know... probably not as many: only wise, up-to-date kids who already made some on korn? Mid-large positions maybe?

BTC on the contrary, quite a few people I think. Pops and moms, first-timers, people already on the brink for months-years. I imagine many small positions with no single mind, no coordination, basically no clue. Most on Coinbase.



517. Post 29075691 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on January 28, 2018, 04:31:28 AM

It would be fascinating if in the future ...


... and all impossible futures generally are fascinating.

Looks like the whole tx spam job by Ver's minions, Wu, Armstrong, Rizun, jbreher, cyberdoc and co. is officially a failed exercise in self-falattio

https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#6m

time to find a new FUD spam song for bitcoin's official losers brigade.

Do we have proof that there was spam from the BCASH camp?  Did anyone do the forensics on that?
No proof as in theorem, but lots of hard numerical evidence showing suspect correlation.
I suspect the operation was only economical with regionally subsidized energy back in China.
As soon as you become a smaller part of the earth mining pool, the cost of spamming grows like 1 - 1/n, if your hashrate is 1/n of the total.
I'd challenge a malicious opponent to pull this off in, say, Canada.
Playing devil's advocate here. I think your argument is compelling. But is it not also possible that this was the result of non batched non segwit transactions that we are now seeing fixed by some of the exchanges and possibly pools?
I'm pretty sure Coinbase's practices played a bigger role here than many of us (I, for one!) suspected. On the other hand, that would make it even easier for an adversary who is willing to, and large enough to swallow the backblow in lost mining revenue (like 1/n  for smallish n - say 3.5-5).

Playing the devil's advocate apprentice: it might have been a necessary, or merely favorable, condition to have big boss exchange playing along. But it's only a matter of how much you have to burn/how long it lasts.



518. Post 29076008 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 28, 2018, 04:40:07 AM
Just had my order @ $11.5k fully filled.

Was really starting to stress out there for a bit. Takes some pressure off.

Think I'll make my next move towards the end of Feb.


Well done. A few tens more or less... will it change your life? Don't think so.

I think your to-do list could possibly contain "learning to live it up" practice sessions?

I started thinking about retiring/changing pace drastically already, and you know what? I realized I like my life well enough, so I'd need to train myself to a new one, even if it's technically "better."



519. Post 29076155 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: TERA2 on January 28, 2018, 04:52:12 AM
Whenever I hear a bunch of exuberant comments about trains etc I know a brutal bulltrap is coming
Tera Beara, we don't give a ratt's ass.   Tongue

(Nothing personal. I couldn't resist.)



520. Post 29076779 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Searing on January 28, 2018, 05:08:12 AM
I read just now, that the 'lightning network' for BTC is now LIVE...

here is the link

https://www.finder.com.au/bitcoin-price-weekly-analysis-2018-01-28


seems sketchy as the only article I can find...do they mean just live on 'mainnet' to test

or is it really ready for prime time?
Hehe how do you figure? Channels still limited to 0.042 btc. However, it's a happy coincidence with the low transaction fees on the main chain making new channel creation fairly cheap.

Hm... one moment. Happy coincidence? There are no coincidences! (Looking warily over shoulder)
... and most aren't happy anyway. Wish a real conspiracy expert would chime in now.



521. Post 29078941 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Searing on January 28, 2018, 05:18:26 AM
(uninteresting titless img snipped)

The first cheering half-tit of a calf run?
The lady knows how to handle flow.
Merited as a micro push.
But you invite me to your next party okay?  Grin



522. Post 29103666 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: AlexGR on January 28, 2018, 01:57:14 PM
Having said that, I think one of the best applications of lightning-type channels would be the ability to instantly remove funds which aren't actively traded,
This could be an effective motive for the exchanges not to adopt LN.

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edit for something irrelevant: I did a <20sat/byte tx earlier in the day to consolidate some funds, it cleared within a couple of hours... don't even remember when I went *that* low...
Yet a number of exchanges or other online accounts still have a default fee of 0.0008 BTC for a standard 1in+2out tx, and users are not allowed to set it to a different value  Angry

I think the two points made by AlexGR show how we'll really have to lobby the exchanges into servicing user needs. Much more competition is what we need.



523. Post 29115010 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: FractalUniverse on January 28, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
What worries me about tether the most is not that it may not be fully covered by real dollars, but that it might be dangerously close to what central banks are doing. ANd we all know, that banks are not too happy when someone else is taking their money printing/fractional reserve monopoly away from them. Especially when they cannot control it.
That's why I've been wishing the audit to produce an "all clean" report.

If there's no fractional reserve going on, and tether is really backed up 1:1 by real USD, this means no actual printing privilege has been taken away from the central banks. In turn, this should imply the central banks can't take legitimate action against tether creation and, more importantly, have no need or little motivation to do so.

However, my whole point is moot. Apparently, the audit's been canned and it's likely there is overprinting (fractional reserve) going on, so the games are still quite open.



524. Post 29115445 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Torque on January 28, 2018, 05:03:43 PM
What worries me about tether the most is not that it may not be fully covered by real dollars, but that it might be dangerously close to what central banks are doing. ANd we all know, that banks are not too happy when someone else is taking their money printing/fractional reserve monopoly away from them. Especially when they cannot control it.

My conspiracy tinfoil hat tells me that Tether was sort of endorsed by the CB establishment. They need Bitcoin and the whole crypto market to have a weakness, an Achilles heel, when the next financial crisis comes. Otherwise they know that Bitcoin will go to the moon and they won't have a way to crash and short it.

Tether could be like their Trojan Horse.  Cheesy
Double and triple crosses. You're just way above in Higher Conspiracy Studies, man.



525. Post 29123827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on January 28, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
Sorry for that stupidish question. I invested 2013 in Bitcoin and holding since then. My Coins are on a paper wallet and I don't have much to do with cryptos since then. Everybody is talking about tether these days. I have no idea what that is again. Do I have to do anything with my bitcoins before this tether thing crashes? Or simply hold another few years?
It isn't stupid to ask IMO.
Very briefly:
Tether, as per the FAQ pointed above, is a substitute for USD pegged 1:1.
It's being used to add fiat-like liquidity.
There are worries of over-creation of tether (fractional reserve), along with more complex hypotheses.
If it is a fake, and it pops, there will be some blood and unpleasant consequences on BTC price.
However, bitcoin has lived through worse events (Gox, for example). If one believes in the long-term future of bitcoin, tether shouldn't be able to sway their course of action for the long run.

TL;DR: Just hodl.



526. Post 29133528 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: podyx on January 28, 2018, 10:23:12 PM
Ethereum keeps creeping up and taking over market share. Will ethereun slowly take over bitcoin? Kinda seems like its possible
Just wait till they want to use it for real transactions  Wink



527. Post 29134912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Icygreen on January 28, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Ethereum keeps creeping up and taking over market share. Will ethereun slowly take over bitcoin? Kinda seems like its possible
Just wait till they want to use it for real transactions  Wink

Demand for Cryptokitties is strong bro  Tongue
I hear cryptotitties will overtake it tho? https://www.producthunt.com/upcoming/cryptotitties
Don't talk titties to me, man. One thing I sorely miss from the everyday ATH season!

On second thought, it's actually a pair of things.



528. Post 29136722 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 28, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Where have all the big blockers gone?

Since there are no walls to watch, and price discussion gets boring during sideways skating, let's talk about an issue that I'm afraid will resurface in due time: blockchain spam.

At the moment, the situation is peaceful. Spam has vanished, and tx fees are back to sane levels. There have been several explanations offered for the end of spam, most of which are plausible or have some merit. It might be that it was too costly to sustain the attack. It might be that someone is moving shop. It might be the attackers became afraid to push LN towards success. It might be that Coinbase withdrew support by fixing their unforgivable withdrawal arrangement (either intentionally or simply as a consequence of other choices).

The point is: most of the people on this forum believe they know who the attackers were and why they did it. For the time being, they are defeated. They might or might not have another try at it. I am concerned with a future when some more powerful opponent delivers a spam attack - backed by the full financial power of a small (or large) nation. That could be an expensive way to shut up the bitcoin network, but it can be fairly successful, especially If you can eat up the loss and hide it inside a large budget by slightly cooking the books.

I think we need someoneto come up with a partial solution to the spam problem. My guess is: if such a remedy is ever found (which I'm totally not confident about), it will be a game theory person to deliver it.



529. Post 29137244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 29, 2018, 12:22:30 AM
Problem I see with Ethereum is that there's nothing you can run on the network that you can't run much cheaper on Ethereum classic.
Or bitcoin, Real Soon Now(TM). The Gas model is flawed anyway.

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And with less chance it will get reversed by a bunch of whining cry-babies.

Good point. But then you are sane and technically-minded. Etherhuffers all worship the Vitalik and derive their value from him. They aren't bothered with technical niceties.
They will be. Just give it time.



530. Post 29163278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Shaking the tree again?



531. Post 29164063 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Hm, it smells like a bear cub trap.



532. Post 29188099 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: enter`name`here on January 29, 2018, 07:25:20 PM

Bitcoin cash is the original block chain?? I am fairly certain the information in that image is just wrong. Segwit activation did not cause a hardfork, it motivated it.
I don't think they are that incompetent at the NIST. The blunder may be intentional.



533. Post 29189601 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: bones261 on January 29, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
We are quickly approaching 1-2 sat/Byte BTC transaction fee area. Not there yet, still in 2-5 sat/B zone, but can easily happen tomorrow. This means that tomorrow some 0 fee transactions may be quickly accepted by miners. Insane when you remember where we where two weeks ago.

Unfortunately, most of the pools are set up to ignore 0 fee transactions and not include them in a block. Also, I suspect that Bitcoin.com, F2Pool and maybe Antpool have set things up to ignore transactions with slightly higher fees than that as well.  However, the situation is vastly improved. there are some transactions that have been stuck since November that are clearing. (Although I supect many of these are indeed spam.)
Getting low-fee or zero-fee transactions confirmed seems like an attainable goal. For example, by imposing a penalty on block reward for mining significantly underfilled blocks when the mempool has many transactions waiting. I understand there's an issue with timing. Maybe just "old" mempool transactions could count - say, only those that have been waiting more than 2-3 blocks. The penalty would be added as a bonus to the next full block, in order to preserve planned inflation. Several constants to tweak, but I think it could be done. This is a minor issue, however: no one is going to cry if If 0-fee txs get dropped.

My pet problem is more serious - getting rid of spam as much as possible. Avoiding tx censorship and fighting spam are fundamentally opposite goals, unfortunately. Core defined a threshold for dust transactions exactly in order to fight spam.




534. Post 29190313 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 29, 2018, 08:01:30 PM
Huh Whats merit standing for ?
Forum rank doesn't depend on activity alone anymore.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0



535. Post 29192292 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: True Myth on January 29, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
Going back to the network spam clearing up.

So… going theoretical here…  Many believe that the spam the bitcoin network was experiencing was orchestrated by people with ties to Bitcoin Cash.  The idea held by many was that these people were spamming Bitcoin network to drive fees up while offering a cheaper faster alternative.  At the same time it appeared as if someone was pumping Bcash on occasion to create hype behind it and grab more attention.  This seemed pretty effective at the time.  Keep in mind this all occurred during arguably record high entrance to the market by newcomers.

After a few months of this going on, the people chasing the alt coin market began placing heavy value on cheap, fast transactions.  This drove people to pumping coins that had little backing or history but, had cheap and fast transaction times.  I think the sheeple have moved past Bcash and now see a larger range of coins that are available that offer their cheap fast transactions.  The people who chased Bcash for the cheap and fast transactions have moved on (hence the Ripple boom).
I attributed the Ripple boom to the Western Union/Ripple rumours.

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There is little benefit to spamming the network now as many others on here have theorized.  Not to mention how costly it must have been to spam the network…  That money would be better spent say… pumping bcash again to gain interest in a market where Bitcoin is moving sideways and “becoming boring”.  You heard it here first… bcash pump inbound.
Spam or not, they did spend quite some cash pumping bcash anyway. The number of emply or nearly-empty blocks mined by Bitmain and related pools is strong circumstantial evidence. Your thesis (as to the innocence of the Bcash  Gang) remains far from compelling.

A Ripple pump may happen of course - it's all cyclical. But that wouldn't support the Bcash innocence hypothesis, would it?

EDIT: I see Torque beat me to it. I think his reply is worthy of consideration. But don't listen to me too much - I'm afraid he's winning me to the tinfoil club, one roll at a time.  Cheesy



536. Post 29192673 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Samarkand on January 29, 2018, 08:39:20 PM
In order to be fully transparent I admit that the active Bitcoin (BTC) addresses have also dropped in this time
frame, but not by such a big percentage.
Old bitcoiners consolidating small amounts into segwit addresses?



537. Post 29193110 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: True Myth on January 29, 2018, 08:46:00 PM
I can buy into this.  This theory would remove some of the responsibility from the bcash gang and place it on heavier hands.  I mean... if we are going "tin foil hat" we might as well go full tin foil hat.
Good, but don't rush it too much. One tinfoil roll at a time makes it.



538. Post 29194659 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 29, 2018, 09:02:32 PM
This is just a draft of an internal report, which open for comments, and it seems they already fixed the obvious error:
https://twitter.com/nerdgirlnv/status/957982195787771910
Thanks for that..looks like you can respond and send corrections directly here nistir8202-comments@nist.gov
And if you do, could you please remind them that the correct ticker for Bcash isn't BCC? It's BCH.



539. Post 29195239 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 29, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
And if you do, could you please remind them that the correct ticker for Bcash isn't BCC? It's BCH.

What the fuck is this nist place and why does it have any importance?
It isn't a 3-letter agency, but a lowly 4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Standards_and_Technology



540. Post 29196398 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 29, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
[https://i.imgur.com/dJ4KgoR.png[/img]

Last year, there were only three red volume months; January, March and September. September dumped because of profit taking after Segwit activated last August 24.

However, Bitcoin quickly recovered and rallied to its peak during the launch of CME Futures last December 18. So basically, January 2018 is a month of profit taking by speculators who bought prior to the CME hype.

This February will define if Bitcoin will continue its uptrend to $33,000 after the January correction.

The monthly chart shows strong support along $10,000 which also a psychological level.

Daily chart
Some bullish traders are expecting a repeat of the fractal patterns made before.

On Balance volume indicates a steady stream of money coming in despite the price decline.

Hopeful bulls are waiting around the 200 day MA ($8,963) to buy in.

Trade setup:

Buy/long the breakup/breakout of the triangle.
Sell/short the breakdown of the triangle.

Buy along the 200 day Moving Average.


Do you have to be a paid member on Trading View to see the 200 day moving average?, because I was wanting to attempt to verify this for myself.  I have heard some folks proclaiming that the 200 day moving average is in the mid $7000s, and so your proclamation of a 200 day moving average to be nearly $9k is surely a better number, from my perspective (because it is higher).  But verification?  How to calculate it?
On a TradingView graph, click on the "Indicators" button at the top. It's the one with the bars and a zigzag line. A menu comes up, Moving Average is one of the possible choices.

After you OK it, your graph has the moving average added. Not sure about the defaults -anyway, if doesn't show the 200-day MA, but some other length, you've got to click on the cog button in the upper left near the new Moving Average label. You can choose 200 (if you're looking at the daily chart), and there it is.



541. Post 29196758 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 29, 2018, 09:58:36 PM
Reminds me of someone.   Cheesy Cheesy
... who's been silent lately.



542. Post 29218718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 30, 2018, 06:08:33 AM
I am not finding this breakdown of the line from the 17th convincing.
Unconvincing shake?



543. Post 29255042 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: TERA2 on January 30, 2018, 12:38:45 PM
The strange part about all this is that the possibility to continue to another ATH is still not completely off the chart and could fit the previous pattern..
Maverick trader contrarian thinking eh?  Grin



544. Post 29262761 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

My lowest limit buy order triggered and filled. I managed to slip another one just a little lower Smiley
BTFD



545. Post 29263436 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

News from Masterluc.

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Daily volumes fall = bearish trend is weak. I still believe that the lower $10k will be bought ruthlessly.



546. Post 29263477 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

More news from Masterluc.

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My account on bitcointalk.org "masterluc" was compromised

So I'd suggest mistrusting anything Masterluc posts here.



547. Post 29263803 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 30, 2018, 07:19:47 PM
https://twitter.com/nathanielpopper/status/958415624455127040

The subpoena is several weeks old according to this.
I feel this is just one last (or next-to-last) weak shake. The bears must be out of breath. And out of coin.



548. Post 29264399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Torque on January 30, 2018, 07:14:43 PM
Notice
How
All
Shitcoins
Are
Pegged
to
Bitcoin's
Price
There
Will
Never
Be
A
Flippening

I would merit this, but in the expressive words of our retiring chap-wearing superstar,

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 30, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
I would merit this post, but I blew my load Sad



549. Post 29264760 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Good evidence, Samarkand. Thanks.

Quote from: Samarkand on January 30, 2018, 07:34:35 PM
I don´t think this will have a big impact on the market at all.
I hope someone of you got a few buy orders filled.
I got one, waiting for one more. Shameless, yes, I am being a little unrestrained in this accumulation spree.

By the way, I hear a distant sound of thunder. No, it's not thunder. It's more like

shhpllllirrrrr shhpllllll weweee shplllrrrhh...

what can it be?
The distant sound of shorts being squeezed in the not too distant future?



550. Post 29272653 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Recently stock market took a couple hits too. Who knows if this is relevant for the immediate future.



551. Post 29275682 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 30, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
note to self:

watch mempool for early indication of volatility
Have not exactly been watching it, but I just got a standard 1-in, 2-out tx confirmed next block for 0.40$. Mempool seems quiet  Grin



552. Post 29276949 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 30, 2018, 11:57:22 PM
note to self:

watch mempool for early indication of volatility
Have not exactly been watching it, but I just got a standard 1-in, 2-out tx confirmed next block for 0.40$. Mempool seems quiet  Grin

now



last 24 hours
Ahh, I see what you mean now. That's right.



553. Post 29277228 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Nosk on January 31, 2018, 12:07:49 AM
are you ready to go under 7500 euro / BTC? this is optimistic Smiley my prediction for the next 1-3 days is under 7000eur

Good night bitcoin land!

Well 7500€ would still be 300$ higher than the lowest possible bottom called by masterluc.
Nothing creepy and shouldn't last long.

But if it go lower than that I think I'll start shitting myself a little.
Besides, when masterluc made his latest dollar price prediction, USD wasn't free-falling as it is now.



554. Post 29306913 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: toknormal on January 31, 2018, 11:46:33 AM

Traders starting to load up on Stamp.

Nerves getting wracked over being caught on the wrong side of a huge short squeeze.



I did hear a strange thundersquishing sound with some whining yesterday. Might that be it?

Quote from: d_eddie on January 30, 2018, 07:38:05 PM
By the way, I hear a distant sound of thunder. No, it's not thunder. It's more like

shhpllllirrrrr shhpllllll weweee shplllrrrhh...

what can it be?
The distant sound of shorts being squeezed in the not too distant future?



555. Post 29328381 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: GHCoins45 on January 31, 2018, 04:52:12 PM
Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

 Still hodlin and buying here.... But I'm running low on fiat money so I'm hodlin out for cheapest coins based on masteluc predictions.
Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?
The horse's mouth is on VKontakte
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Masterluc's account here on Bitcointalk has been compromised. Disregard any post in his name on Bitcointalk!



556. Post 29336086 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: keyboard warrior on January 31, 2018, 06:44:28 PM
Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?
The master luck account has been compromised but he has a few aliases.

This is him on ://www.traditradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
How do you know the masterluc account has been compromised? Actmyname left negative trust with a comment the account is compromised, but he hasn't posted a reference link that explains the negative.

Masterluc wrote so himself on VKontakte
https://vk.com/wall-130254204_7571



557. Post 29336266 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 31, 2018, 07:20:07 PM
TMSC produces and supplies Bitmains chip.
Samsungs foundry is making it for a customer, not entering directly:
"TechCrunch: “Samsung’s foundry business is currently engaged in the manufacturing of cryptocurrency mining chips. However we are unable to disclose further details regarding our customers.”

Yeah, I was thinking about this the other night.  If Jihan has used his war chest to lock down another foundry humanity is fucked.
If the client is Jihan, it's only SHA256 that is fucked.



558. Post 29337139 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

While on the topic of Masterluc, there are two more pearls of wisdom from him:

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(today at 8:53 am)
Bitcoin is not alone. The same orgy (uncontrollable growth) is going on for almost all major stocks. Only bitcoin is called a bubble for some reason. But soon the time will come to collect the stones ....


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(three hours ago)

The alts are watching and waiting for what bitcoin will do next



559. Post 29340457 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on January 31, 2018, 08:23:51 PM
Buckle up

https://xxxxxxx.com/south-korean-court-rules-bitcoin-has-economic-value/?utm_source=OneSignal%20Push&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=Push%20Notifications
I wonder what great significance this piece of news might have. Is there any need for a Korean court to rule bitcoin has economic value and can be confiscated, so the proceeds go to finance state budget?

The Feds confiscated and sold Ulbricht's Silk Road coin and happily auctioned them without all that fuss.



560. Post 29350202 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: fluidjax on January 31, 2018, 11:06:29 PM
In the short term we need a safe haven from Crypto, having a gold backed currency would be better than a fiat backed currency.
Any backed currency requires a trusted party and having a permissioned block chain is irrelevant as you need to trust 100% the people who are storing the backing.
Having a permissioned blockchain based on PoS means they can censor or undo any transaction, as long as enough of the stake agrees. Probably, the majority stakeholder could do that alone.



561. Post 29389801 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: vroom on February 01, 2018, 02:28:09 PM
I love the action here when everything goes red, this place feels so alive during such times.

carolina times are much more fun.
I miss the tittiness very much!



562. Post 29390047 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

This might be the last shake. Down to ~8.5k probably.



563. Post 29391962 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: Zeroxal on February 01, 2018, 03:09:27 PM
This might be the last shake. Down to ~8.5k probably.
If the hodlers stay strong, I doubt there will be a shake into the 8k$ range.
Makes sense. I could agree, but volumes are so small that high-mid 8000's seem feasible.



564. Post 29403718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Judging by the quotes I see, our old friend r0ach is spending most of his day composing his usual Nazi rants. No surprise.

What's more novel, though, is this crowd of bears that were long gone and come back without fail in times of descending prices. I wonder where they were during the latest series of ATHs. Of course this is an open discussion - possibly the most open on Bitcointalk, so everyone is welcome as long as they can contribute to the exchange of ideas.

I have one prayer, though. Don't clog the toilet again, please. It would be appreciated if you could manage your number twos and come here on empty bowels. It's getting smelly really fast.



565. Post 29427211 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Last from ML (Google translate)
Quote from: Masterluc
1. Volumes fall, the subwave overlaps
2. A counter-trend continuation pattern is formed (flag)
3. Flashcross 50% for a month there are only bear traps. The present bloating is slow and painful
4. Weekly ma20 is not broken (by closing) for the time being
5. Did not climb into the zone of the previous wave ~ 7700

The situation and the truth is strange, but I'm still convinced that this is not a long blowoff.



566. Post 29427948 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: Apekool on February 02, 2018, 05:01:53 AM
as soon as a transaction rate exceeds that of a regular bank, why using bitcoin?
Because you can send them to any address you like. Try doing that with banks, Visa etc.



567. Post 29455965 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: SecondLeoTheSecond on February 02, 2018, 01:41:53 PM
Bitcoin is unique in that most of the traders are tied into being in one of two positions - either btc or usd. There arent a bunch of other stocks and asset classes for them to trade. They're not leaving the market. They're staying on the bitcoin exchanges with an eagle eye on the chart and soon as there is a hint of a reversal they have to all pile back in at once because if theyre on the wrong side of the market then theyre losing and wasting their time on high risk exchanges.

Something which, with some goodwill, could be interpreted as bullish from Tera?
REVERSAL CONFIRMED!
Tera isn't actually a one-way permabear IMHO. More like a cynical contrarian skeptic.



568. Post 29456677 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: SecondLeoTheSecond on February 02, 2018, 01:47:08 PM
I guess the cynical contrarian stance makes her a better trader than most around here.
It's likely. In one of her later posts, she wrote something to the effect that a good trader should be highly unpopular. Now the logical implication doesn't work in reverse of course, but she is somewhat unpopular here, isn't she?  Wink



569. Post 29457964 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Masterluc thinks it's over.

Quote from: Masterluc
Well, so the present drop ends somewhere in the red circle.

So, the price hit somewhere close to 61.7% Fibonacci of the entire growth from 150 to 19800.

You know what it means? That the Third (wave?) is completed and we became its witnesses =) For this, congratulations to you.

What's next? Next is the Fourth (going on now). And then the Fifth somewhere in the area of ​​100k.

The current drop will bounce back very well into the area of ​​13,000-15,000 in the short term, where those who bought up on my advice will be able to sell off, but have already managed to curse everything and wet the diapers. Bleed there, because it is not for you.

The critical level at 7700 does not really matter anymore, because I see that the wave is over.

Well, here's my idea for trading watching https://ru.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/hg0S8xjw-historical-3-looks-to-be-completed/




570. Post 29458475 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: TERA2 on February 02, 2018, 02:18:35 PM
Tera isn't actually a one-way permabear IMHO. More like a cynical contrarian skeptic.
In other circles, they would just say "troll".
I'm above that. (Badly missing an angel smiley.)

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Say "cynical contrarian skeptic" 3 times fast.
sinikalkontrarianskeptiksinikalkontrarianskeptiksinikalkontrarianskeptik
I got my tongue twisted and tied. So what?  Angry



571. Post 29515155 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

My previous low-too-low limit buy got filled, but in the meantime I slipped one more in. I won't be satisfied the rise has begun until I have at least one low buy order left unfilled!  Grin



572. Post 29574520 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 04, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
It's all about normalized merit TERA.

I just mentally subtract a person's starting point.
I do the same, it's quite obvious isn't it? Smiley



573. Post 29574707 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: AZwarel on February 04, 2018, 02:57:11 AM
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences:
"The Prize in Economics is not one of the original Nobel Prizes created by Alfred Nobel's will."
"The prize was established in 1968 by a donation from Sweden's central bank"

'nuff said  Grin
It doesn't really imply all Nobel prizes for Economics are bunk. Not all prizes have been awarded to politically skewed theories of strict neo-Keynesian observance. As a good example, I'm thinking of K. Arrow's impossibility theorem (1972 prize).



574. Post 29575094 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 04, 2018, 02:51:37 AM
My previous low-too-low limit buy got filled, but in the meantime I slipped one more in. I won't be satisfied the rise has begun until I have at least one low buy order left unfilled!  Grin
hahahahahahaha...

I have seen several of your posts on this topic, and it seems that you just keep adding another one as soon as the lowest as fuck one gets filled, and then you have a new lowest as fuck buy order... self-fulfilling prophecy that is going to be true no matter what, right?..

It's a bilt like your 'buy on the way down' gospel, seasoned with a bit of gambler's spice (look for the bottom just for sports).

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unless we go to zero, then you will have to set them in the negative territory (just for the record, I don't think we are going to zero, and especially not to the negative price territory.. Is that too bullish of me?).  

Negative territory... you get paid to get bitcoin. Definitely not too bullish. Not happening anyway, I tend to agree  Tongue



575. Post 29575972 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)
Quote from: Masterluc
TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.



576. Post 29576840 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: somac. on February 04, 2018, 09:58:43 AM
As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)
Quote from: Masterluc
TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.

Where is that quote from Masterluc taken from?

cause his account on bitcointalk was hacked the other day
If's from VKontakte, his main outlet recently.
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga



577. Post 29577493 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 04, 2018, 10:08:52 AM
https://weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/what-problems-can-the-lightning-network-solve/
most of this is fair criticism
Well, most is, but some is a little off. As an example, I agree adoption is the main point, but I haven't heard about bugs biting and making developers lose testnet funds recently. Also, the route-finding problem is exaggerated. It is impossible to guarantee an optimal (shortest) route is found, but quite feasible to find just any route. If channels live long enough, a store-and-forward policy could take care of that. Also, opening and closing channels can become much cheaper with some new proposed pooling/batching protocols. You just open many channels at once and share the fees. Things will only get better with Schnorr signatures.

<tinfoil>Do you know/can you find out the guy's track record? It sounds a bit like undercover shilling.</tinfoil>



578. Post 29578016 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 04, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.
Surely, you mean a "full-validating, non-mining node"? Asks our wordsmith colleague jbreher.  Grin



579. Post 29578343 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: julian071 on February 04, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
I hope (and believe) we will see the last dip today, before going up again for an extended period. The bottom, as they say. I set my orders accordingly.
Same here. My last hopelessy-low-will-never-get-filled buy order got almost half filled. Undecided if I should place another just 50$ lower. Hmmm... maybe not until this one gets cleared.

On a related note, please keep posting, everyone!
The more we post (especially memes with TITS!), the better we'll be off when we're back to WOPC parity later this year.



580. Post 29578841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 04, 2018, 10:40:20 AM
Aren't you going to run out of money, sooner or later, if you keep setting your never, ever ever ever ever, to be filled buy orders only $50 below the previous buy order with the same title?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

unless you happen to be one of those banks with printing authority, aka unlimited fiat.
Sooner or later, yes, unfortunately.
But I'm still good - I haven't sold grandma yet.



581. Post 29599090 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: bones261 on February 04, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
You know, I really despise that the Bitcoin.com pool, run by Roger Ver, won't include transactions that pay less than 10 sats/byte in their block and then signals "Use Bitcoin Cash." What a fucking jerk.  Angry
I think the only way out of this is the mining oligopoly to be broken by new chips, available to anyone. There are hopeful signs already.

On the other hand, the fact that Jihan now accepts USD as well as Bcash for his miners might be read as a sign of capitulation.



582. Post 29601766 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: toknormal on February 04, 2018, 04:07:34 PM

http://forklog.net/so-have-we-got-tethered/

Hm, funny. Several intelligent observers here thought differently. They did see a correlation. People I respect. Of course everyone can be wrong, including each one of us. Are the details of the analysis available?



583. Post 29603127 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Searing on February 04, 2018, 04:45:34 PM
I figure it will take 2 years to get back to $18k prices with BTC.

I hope (and somewhat rationally think) it will take less.



584. Post 29604932 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: AlexGR on February 04, 2018, 05:04:27 PM

No shit... BTC at its ATH hit >330bn marketcap. You can't do that with 2bn tethers (<0.7%).
But market cap is not a terribly useful metric, when it's just obtained by multiplying the current price by the actual float - which is usually smaller by several orders of magnitude. In this sense, you can sway a 100bn "marketcap" by moving maybe just 0.5% of it, if the coins that are actually being traded are not too many.

I might be wrong in my understanding of this market cap issue, of course. An elaboration or explanation will be welcome.



585. Post 29605758 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: ivomm on February 04, 2018, 05:25:08 PM
My point is that now everyone thinks 20k$ is not sustainable for BTC, but the truth is that IT IS! BTC WILL rise and reach new ATH's sooner than most expect. My pessimistic prediction is 30K at the end of 2018 and the optimistic is 50K! But, but, but... what if the bad news continue?

IF? You say IF? I guess you've been in this long enough to know that FUD never sleeps  Grin

Quote
Ok, what about 2018, 2019, 2020 (the next halvening)? Do you really, I mean REALLY believe that BTC will not return to at least 15K and prefer to sell at 8K?
Indeed, bad news or FUD or whatever. Honey badger don't care.



586. Post 29622891 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: TERA2 on February 04, 2018, 10:19:52 PM
It might go lower but I cant think of a buy here not turning a profit sometime within the next 2 months.
I can't help but think along the same lines. Are you losing your contrarian edge, or is it that you're dragging me to the Other Side?  Tongue



587. Post 29623443 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

It's shorting, not real selling. I have a hunch most nonwhale hodler/accumulators have raked in what they could at increasingly discounted prices. I did, for the most part, as JJGee duly hypothesized (well, grandma apart).

However, shorting much longer (pun, sorry) could turn into risky business if any whale hodler/accumulator smells easy prey. I'd guess on the whole hodlers/accumulators tend to be less aggressive than pump&dumpers, but but. If one's pissed off enough, and the kill is easy enough...



588. Post 29623588 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: thrax on February 05, 2018, 03:21:55 AM
So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have

Also Wall St. is crashing us on purpose, Undecided

Sounds kinda weird to me. The fire power needed for such a crash... Plus, they would be selling at lost on purpose. That would be purely burning XX% of your money just to keep the other %. Unless they bought before the bull run but I doubt it. More like they caused the bullrun.

Maybe they bet long on the futures and bought, then put shorts on after the futures closed and stated dumping. They might be putting very low buy orders in and trying to crash the price enough to fill them. After they reload they can close their shorts at a profit, put longs on again and start pumping the price.

For every coin they dump there's probably ten more sold due to stop loss triggers and panic selling.
Out of merits, sorry. First come, first served. Ahem.
Although, to pick a nit, 1:10 might be a tad overstated.



589. Post 29624110 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 05, 2018, 04:14:07 AM
I think that my maintenance stage has become more and more refined, but I don't think that my skills caused the refinement but instead the fortune of our most recent exorbitant price rise from $2,600 to $19,666... .. but yeah, we are back in the doldrums of $8k-ish, but did not stop me from feeling a certain level of comfort from maintenance refinement.  When we get to $100k (assuming we do at some point - perhaps less than 5 years?  perhaps?), then I will likely develop even a more "refined" perspective regarding the significance of maintenance.
I can't help imagining you as you build the phrase and deliver it in a rhythmic deep baritone with hints of Spanish accents. A cigar and your favorite drink are all the props needed for the scene.



590. Post 29624260 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: milkshock100 on February 04, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
So masterluc was wrong ?

Starting to look that way
Actually, 7.5k wasn't ruled out, but labeled as "less likely" (possibly, "much less likely" - not sure). Not to play devil's advocate, but how do you expect a Bulgarian fortune teller witch to speak in plain, unambiguous words?



591. Post 29667801 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 05, 2018, 04:47:23 AM
I think that my maintenance stage has become more and more refined, but I don't think that my skills caused the refinement but instead the fortune of our most recent exorbitant price rise from $2,600 to $19,666... .. but yeah, we are back in the doldrums of $8k-ish, but did not stop me from feeling a certain level of comfort from maintenance refinement.  When we get to $100k (assuming we do at some point - perhaps less than 5 years?  perhaps?), then I will likely develop even a more "refined" perspective regarding the significance of maintenance.
I can't help imagining you as you build the phrase and deliver it in a rhythmic deep baritone with hints of Spanish accents. A cigar and your favorite drink are all the props needed for the scene.
(lots of snip snip)
Without conceding any truth of the matter asserted, perhaps reasonable claims can be made that money causes changes in the way each of us carries ourselves, whether in the real world or online?
That does sound likely.
But you haven't told me what your favorite drink for such a speech would be!



592. Post 29675116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Wekkel on February 05, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
Remember, for every seller there is a buyer. So someone is buying cheap(er) coins.
Indeed. Much better to be on the buy side in moments like these.



593. Post 29675492 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 07:34:25 PM
This pump&dump also shows another thing. Markets still can be manipulated by a few people. This is a good thing in some way. Shows us that we are still in early phase. When this is over, bitcoin will be like gold. No %80 down/ups in a week, nothing exciting, moving slowly as a turtle, boring as fuck.

You should be glad that fun ain't over yet.


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Good point, mindrust. I'd merit it if
1) I had merit left to give out
2) You didn't have that punch magnet face as an avatar.



594. Post 29675664 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
2) You didn't have that punch magnet face as an avatar.

I'm just trying to raise awareness for bcash scam.
I'm not doubting your good intentions. It's just that my fingers wouldn't follow through  Tongue



595. Post 29679465 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 05, 2018, 08:52:39 PM
It’s a short squeeze.  Nothing more. 
Not nearly enough yet. Need to hear the swishing sound.



596. Post 29707693 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Torque on February 06, 2018, 01:59:09 AM
The floor is in. A certain family member just sold, the poor bastard.
Could be.  Had someone I know swallow a 50% loss and leave.  The problem of course is they aren’t coming back any time soon so where the fresh money will come from?
From us, at least in part. Most of my fiat profit is straight from the clonecoin dump. Been waiting to see if I get richer in fiat or btc for a while now.

I have learned that the best time to buy Bitcoin (or any asset really) is when no one else seems to want it and has completely forgotten about it.

The relatively high volatility still tells me that we're not there yet.

I agree totally! I ate up a lot of BTC on the way down, so my fiat reserves are a bit on the low side. But I'm starting to set aside some more, and I will get moar korn when the waters aren't muddy anymore.



597. Post 29750699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: kurious on February 06, 2018, 10:09:02 PM
To state the obvious:

Most of us have been hoping someone else would start buying.  

The problem is simply that the majority of the market cash hasn’t been.  Why would it when it’s on the way down?  

However:   Ultimately there is a price that is just too low and there will be more buyers than sellers.  The market decides this, not our crossed fingers.

This is the truth.  The price will eventually turn up, it must: but ‘when’ the bottom is in can truly only be known with hindsight.

If this is over, we must be thankful - because a slow bleed is worse than a sharper, faster one.  Anyone who waited after Gox for a final bottom for over a year will remember the pain of this.

That said, we know in our soul these coins are really cheap, we just need to feel the market agrees, so we don’t buy before they’re cheaper still.  

Once it is apparent the market has decided, we know the bottom is in and so we can BUY.

And BUY, we will.  
A great way to put it.
I've been buying like mad on the way down - perhaps too much, too early, but when she gets back up were she belongs it will be much less relevant.

The thing is, in these bloody days, I didn't feel as much panic as I felt FOMO.



598. Post 29750890 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Another "obvious" concept - but easy to forget - that many smart folks here have pointed out: for every seller there is a buyer, and vice versa. Someone's really loaded up with cheap coins at the expense of the weak hands.

Never forget - You only lose if you sell cheaper than you bought.



599. Post 29751202 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: willope on February 06, 2018, 08:25:29 PM
^+1 WOmerit to kurious

6k potential bottom?
time to catch the train?

Where is the train on the picture?
Train? Which train?



600. Post 29751970 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 06, 2018, 10:48:14 PM
Will be nice to step away and focus on me for the rest of my unnatural life.

Soon.

Never imagined I would be dealing with this sort of existential angst with retirement mere weeks away...
I'm pretty sure sooner than you know, you'll say "never imagined the angst would be gone and forgotten so fast."
Cheer up, Bob. You are one of the guys who made it. Be proud and learn to live it up, it needs training like any other art.



601. Post 29832614 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Interesting as predictions about the next phase are, it's an art for few. Masterluc himself is far sighted in his reach forward.

I'd like to turn back with the not-so-few: what happened? This might help my future understanding of things.

When is it the first time that one of us could have said "it's coming" - and how could they hope to convince at least a qualified majority?

Quote from: toknormal on February 02, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
8-monthly bubbles which burst in the "propellor correction" fashion I described. The pattern's always the same:



Quote from: toknormal on February 06, 2018, 12:20:31 AM
It's the 1-Week MACD histogram for Bitcoin/USD. The thing is, I've NEVER seen it go so deep on the very first bar before.



For me it lends credence to the idea that the market is being actively co-erced down to a pre-defined level by the same holders who hoovered up the coin on the way up. They may be playing both markets in concert (futures and cash).


Toknormal's points scored with me. Are the two quoted views mutually exclusive, or can they add up into a coherent narrative?

8-month cycles, give or take 6 months. The give or take bit itches, of course. Why these irregular durations? Is the school (of whales) free to choose a random moment, or are they looking for a "go ahead" hint from external reality? Which kind of hint/help would they welcome? The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?




602. Post 29833352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 07, 2018, 06:33:44 AM
I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.
Surely, you mean a "full-validating, non-mining node wallet"? Asks our wordsmith colleague jbreher.  Grin

^^^ FTFY.

Just keepin' it real.

XD
Hmphh, inflexible over language, eh? I don't even keep a wallet on my node, but whatever.

Quote from: jbreher on February 07, 2018, 11:18:43 PM
I ain't 'playing victim'. There is a wide gulf from permissionless innovation that you don't happen to care for, and outright lying in order to besmirch character.
I understood the first sentence, but I couldn't make sense of the second. Care to explain?



603. Post 29854239 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Hardly relevant to BTC, but an interesting topic IMO.

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
(snip)
How hard were they trying though? I recall reading a paper from one of the Ivy League universities that concluded that perfect pitch could not be learned in adulthood. And the argumentation, as well as the experiment itself, was lackluster to say the least.
Really hard. As in everything that can possibly be done within legal and ethical means. This is study time on google if that's not enough.
Perfect pitch appears to be dependent on both a genetic trait and a development window. Nature and nurture. The genetic trait is probably present in something like 20% of the population. The window of opportunity for actually having perfect pitch during adulthood roughly coincides with the window for native language learning.

Native speakers of tone languages (Chinese language/dialects, Thai etc) have a higher than average percentage of adults with perfect pitch. This is probably due to children being exposed to more-or-less fixed pitch sillables while that part of the brain is developing.

There are several studies that come to similar conclusions. I've read a few (say, at least a couple). I can't be bothered to look them up, but big G can help.



604. Post 29858683 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: vroom on February 08, 2018, 12:45:54 PM
I found a working tutorial for lightning nodes. I was able to build lightningd from scratch, no docker images used. But it uses the C implementation of lightning: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning.git . is this trustworthy?

link to the tutorial: https://hackernoon.com/harnessing-lightning-for-instant-bitcoin-transacting-a-tutorial-3b9dcdc00552
Useful info, vroom! There goes my last sMerit.

I do hand out merit fairly quickly when I have some, but I prefer giving them out to nonlegends when possible :-)



605. Post 29861252 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Nosk on February 08, 2018, 01:23:25 PM
From now on there are only resistances ahead. The first one starts about here. Personally I'm positive that the bottom is in.
If I'm right confidence should rise together with the price, and that may produce an upward avalanche.





For now the biggest resistance will be 7k € as, if you look à the chart  (cant link it I'm on my smartphone), it was the price just before the bullrun. I predict a few day of stagnation at this point and then extra bullishness if we go through it.
We're oscillating right around 7k€ indeed. If it breaks upward, there might be a nice weekend pump like the ones we had when Carolina was singing.



606. Post 29861698 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 08, 2018, 05:25:24 AM
Who the fuck partially fills a limit order for 0.1 BTC and then goes away again?


This has happened to me quite frequently.  You just  happen to have your order at the reversing point.  I think that it is good sign.

Sometimes the remaining portion fo the order does end up getting filled, but frequently when an order gets partially filled, I get a kind of feeling of how much of a "genius" I am in terms of my order placement... sometimes, I cancel the remaining and sometimes I will just leave it and see if it later gets filled.  If I leave it, then frequently, I will set a partial contrary order, just to cover myself on both and it becomes more fun, because I feel that I get an additional opportunity to make some extra money by setting another partial order on the other end and then just wait to see which one fills first.  That part is like a game, and fun and generally profitable, no matter what.

It happened to me too, and when it happens I feel like a genius too! I never set a partial contrary order though. Gotta try that, it must be fun playing wait and see which one fills first. Nice bit, JJG!



607. Post 29862078 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: kurious on February 08, 2018, 09:39:10 AM
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
That's exactly what I would like to be able to figure out - partially, tentatively, doubtfully, of course. In another post, kurious said something to the effect "Exactness is not possible, but getting as close to it as we can is a noble art." I'm quoting from memory, words might be off. Well, that's exactly what I hope to do, and I'm asking for help from several points of view. The advanced conspiration theorist, the technical analyst, the macroeconomist, the street-wise long time exchange user. I'm none of that yet, but honing my gut feeling skills seems a worthy endeavour.



608. Post 29862235 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Found the exact reference I mention in my previous post. Here it is.

Quote from: kurious on February 08, 2018, 09:28:31 AM

(snip....)

The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?


This is a huge, but probably unanswerable question.  But it is one that anyone smart is always hoping to find the answer to.

Markets are all about confidence and sentiment, so (sadly) there is no perfect answer, even though with hindsight patterns do repeat.  But patterns can always be seen in the past and look obvious - seeing them coming again is not so easy.  Like Elliot waves; it's always debatable 'which wave' we are in.

For long-term trend prediction (the big turning points), I think indicators of irrational bullishness /bearishness are as good an indicator of anything a crash, or rise is coming - but this is unmeasurable mathematically.

Short term - personally - I draw lines on charts endlessly, decide my favourite candle time scale and which MA to trade on and it usually 'helps' - but only enough to give me an edge.  And it's an edge that works only if you work hard and spend a LOT of time on it.

I did sell off 20% in Dec, which was as much as I dared to because it was enough to change my life significantly - and I didn't know what the tax situation in my country was likely to mean for what I took out (plus it was still going up!).   I felt strongly we would probably correct, and I remembered 2013, so I took 'some' out.  I advised members of my close family who had anything to do the same (they chose not to).

I will say this:

With trends (not short term trading), the only thing that has worked for me is two methodologies:

1.  Gut feeling  (along with mentally preparing to 'sell to too early, if it's enough money to make a difference')

2.  Listening to Tera.
Well, while you can't predict where in a given pattern we are at any given moment, you can use historical data to get a probability of certain patterns unfolding on different time scales. And to be profitable all it takes is to be right just over 50% of the time, which is something that isn't extremely difficult in inefficient markets. That does take a very specific toolset though, so it's not for everyone by default, although the required skills can be acquired by anyone. The problem is that figuring out the details takes a very long time, and humans are pretty dreadful when it comes to long-term planning.

I think what d_eddie was quite reasonably asking was 'what can we learn so that can we see the big stuff coming in future', since most here did not.

I use TA and in normal conditions I can trade with enough edge for it to work well enough to be worthwhile, after five years, I ought to have learned something - but I didn't know where the top was, and I am not totally certain BTC has bottomed out.  To be really good, you need to sell all at the precise top, and then buy it back at the absolute bottom.  

I doubt anyone actually did.

Perfection is not possible, but getting closer to it is a noble and sensible quest.



609. Post 29868641 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 08, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.
Example: you have orders each 500$.
Sell at 8500 on the way up, but remove "buy at 8500 on the way down". Next you'll buy will be at $8000.
Same for the opposite direction, buy at $8000 on the way down, remove "sell at $8000 on the way up".



610. Post 29872109 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 08, 2018, 04:04:59 PM
...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.
Example: you have orders each 500$.
Sell at 8500 on the way up, but remove "buy at 8500 on the way down". Next you'll buy will be at $8000.
Same for the opposite direction, buy at $8000 on the way down, remove "sell at $8000 on the way up".

OK, so for the most part, they still cancel out, you are just harvesting at reversals.

If it runs straight up 4 sells, then straight down 4 buys you only have one "win"
You can tweak the amounts, and/or you can tweak the gaps (leaving two rather than one, for example).
You can realign the whole ladder by a few dollar points (under the $500 step size, in the example I made).

But right, if you don't do that, that's the way I understand it too - you harvest your latest top when you reach a bottom, and vice versa.



611. Post 29873034 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 08, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
That's exactly what I would like to be able to figure out - partially, tentatively, doubtfully, of course. In another post, kurious said something to the effect "Exactness is not possible, but getting as close to it as we can is a noble art." I'm quoting from memory, words might be off. Well, that's exactly what I hope to do, and I'm asking for help from several points of view. The advanced conspiration theorist, the technical analyst, the macroeconomist, the street-wise long time exchange user. I'm none of that yet, but honing my gut feeling skills seems a worthy endeavour.
That depends on how much time and effort you are willing to expend, or alternatively money if you'd prefer hiring people.

The most accurate solution will be a well-balanced combination of multiple approaches, and the balancing act is something that can always be improved upon with new data. It's also very much possible to create fresh data from what you already know, which is to some extent what technical analysis does.

If you're not looking into algorithmic trading then your best bet is a combination of fundamental and technical analysis. If you're looking into algorithmic trading, you'll find no upper ceiling no matter how many resources you throw at the problem.

If you're manually trading you may want to consider trading on different time scales simultaneously (minutes/hours/days/weeks/months), both for better hedging and for accelerated self-improvement. There are also altcoins that are "negatively" correlated to BTC/USD (e.g. they do the opposite of what BTC/USD does), which can be used fairly easily to increase your stashes during periods of extreme volatility on any time scale.
I'm no real trader, but I do have a small part of my holdings loose in the wild - mostly learning and making the occasional small profit. Got a few lessons already, at reasonable prices.

Thanks for the advice about multiple scales. The algorithmic thingy really tickles me, especially if it can be steered/tweaked while it runs. Can you suggest any good reference?



612. Post 29875290 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 08, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
Listen here. The thing about racists: Everyone is a racist.

Sometimes we need to put others down to make us feel good about ourselves. It is just desperate human nature of someone who does not like themself. From a psychological standpoint anyway.
We're not talking guys who hate their second cousins. It's specifically called racism if "the others" are people with a phenotype markedly different from yours. Or a different upbringing.



613. Post 29876108 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 08, 2018, 04:37:16 PM

You can tweak the amounts, and/or you can tweak the gaps (leaving two rather than one, for example).
You can realign the whole ladder by a few dollar points (under the $500 step size, in the example I made).

But right, if you don't do that, that's the way I understand it too - you harvest your latest top when you reach a bottom, and vice versa.

Thanks for helping me brainwrap that.

It seems to be more of a risk management strategy than anything.  Most of the transactions are cancelling out with zero risk while ensuring that you are right there on a reversal.

Your only real risk is that it runs off in a huge move that exhausts your supply of one side of the pair.
I think I remember JayJuanGee talking about being busy shuffling orders around during the latest storm - respacing them with wider steps if I remember it right. Jbreher hinted he does the shuffling manually too (likely with a smaller step size, which of course implies more work). You basically have to babysit this toy, either automatically or manually.

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edit/  I just deleted a recently added sell order that would have prevented me from "getting in" if it goes up from here...
So it seems to be working for you isn't it?



614. Post 29900181 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: RoomBot on February 08, 2018, 11:50:17 PM
I must say:

It's been very reassuring to see certain views being challenged in this thread which have been left to pass by without comment before.

I was beginning to wonder, now I find I am not alone. Respect to those who spoke up, it was about time.

'nuff said.
On with WO nonsense in all its flavours.

Thanks, but sometimes it's better to ignore and hope it dies a natural death.  Smiley
Yes, it's soothing to be able to glide over it sometimes. You can't engage permanently.

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Ya gotta pick your battles.
Or let them pick you, as it happens  Grin



615. Post 29900487 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on February 09, 2018, 12:42:05 AM
You can stab people with it, stick up your jacksy, or even one's urethra, plug holes in aircraft fuselages to prevent depressurisation and use it to deliver children if there's no hot water and towels to hand.
Can a Lambo do any of that?

No. But I did pick up two of these.

https://www.vipertecknives.com/products/guard-father-spike-automatic-otf-icepick

Jam them into my urethra every morning as part of my morning workout, right after I finish my sets of slamming my testicles between two bricks.

You have strange customs in your country.
Only the biggest stars have customs so extravagant. Now Bob doesn't like to boast too much, so he didn't mention that the bricks are actually gold-plated tungsten, food grade. With repeated use, they eventually get soft-sculpted by thousands of impressions of impressively hard kidney beans.



616. Post 29901969 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 08, 2018, 05:44:25 PM

(snips sprinkled)

1) chained order is a little bit of an additional concept (...)

2)  example of incremental / step setting in the $8k price territory using a ball park of $500 buy/sell increments. (...)

(And so on. A beautiful, detailed explanation in language dry enough to taste delicious given its origin.)

So you can write in an orderly manner when you give up your urban stream of consciousness style. Next piña is on me.

Quote from: JayJuanGee
You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.

I don't think that "remove" is the correct word choice.  I find that when I am playing this whole system and it is going smoothly, then I am never really removing anything, but I am just adding.  Once a buy order executes, then I add a sell order, and once a sell order executes, then I add a buy order.  

On that same point, I tend to let the price come to me, and rarely do I tweak to reset the order and to expedite the process.   Sometimes, I will change a whole bunch of orders at once which is a kind of removal and replace, but that is not part of the regular practice when the practice is "flowing" then I am only adding orders, not removing orders.

(...)

I am not sure if your example helps.... O.k. we are going with a $500 increment, but if my order to sell at $8,500 executes, then I am not removing anything because I just add a buy order at $8k (because my previous sell had executed at $8k, and I could not do anything until either the next $8.5k sell order executed or the next $7.5 buy order executed.  If the price had gone down rather than up, then my $7.5k order would have filled and I would have set a sell order at $8k rather than the buy order that I ended up setting because of the $8.5k sell order that ended up executing first.

Probably, we are saying the same thing, just phrasing it differently.

Yes, I think I got your system right, but I pictured it as a double (buy/sell) ladder of orders already set up in advance. You watch them fill and remove debris/fix things. Like your buy at $8k is already there (it became relevant after selling at $8.5k).


Quote from: JayJuanGee
3) The whole system is not a wash because you are able to either buy more BTC with the same amount of money or accumulate more money by the size of your orders.  If you keep the exact BTC amounts, then you accumulate dollars; if you keep the same dollar amounts then you accumulate BTC (or you can do some combination of the two).  Recently, I have been working on accumulating more
BTC with my orders.  
On the other hand, I kind of considered this in the background but honestly wasn't sure - I didn't run the numbers to check, so I kept my mouth shut with jojo69, who used the word "mostly" just a couple of positions out of place.

Quote from: jojo69 on February 08, 2018, 04:04:59 PM
OK, so for the most part, they still cancel out, you are just harvesting (mostly, ed.) at reversals.

If it runs straight up 4 sells, then straight down 4 buys you (mostly) only have one "win"
Well yes - mostly. The effect of trades in middle points starts small and builds up, as JayJuanGee explained  Smiley



617. Post 29902223 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
*sigh* no. IQ tests are simply pattern recognition. There is nothing cultural about it.

Pattern recognition has nothing cultural about it? I disagree. Try a "spot the pattern" competition in the Amazon forest against a local. Yes, you can use your calculator if needed (hint: it won't be).



618. Post 29903807 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: mfort312 on February 08, 2018, 06:27:53 PM
Dear Mom,

(private mom stuff removed).

Love,

P.S. Send more of those lightning-nodes. They were tasty, but not nearly enough to sustain me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2905720.new#new
Thank you son, that was really sweet. Sorry can't send you nodes atm, still hodling them in the oven. In the meantime, I'm sending you a couple crunchy merits to chew on.

P.S. You look gorgeous in the pic. So like your father!



619. Post 29956172 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 09, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
whalepool all in an uproar about some enormous short liquidation

10,340 BTC
Thunderous squishing sounds, at last.



620. Post 30080787 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Disclaimer: totally unrelated to bitcoin or crypto, allright.

Quote from: bitserve on February 11, 2018, 12:06:35 PM
I can read French, but I lack training in listening it even if it is somewhat understandable. It's more that I am against losing time listening long uninteresting videos that could be summarized (as you did above) in a few paragraphs that can be read in a split second.

<rant>I wholeheartedly agree. And don't even get me started on online news sources or "journalists" using videos rather than exercising the art of synthesis in written text. That should be their job, ffs!</rant>



621. Post 30082827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on February 11, 2018, 10:40:33 AM
Shouldn't an Economist at the NYU at least be smart enough to factor out the monetary supply? Would sure be nice to see someone in such a position making educated assessments rather than spreading propaganda or bullshit statements that don't hold under scrutiny.

https://twitter.com/Nouriel/status/962479746444652544

I think we are giving this guy too much importance on the most read thread of the whole forum. You know how PageRank works? Let the economist out of our house. Leave him with his obsession and let him live with his grandeur
Indeed. We could at least try not to bump PageRank too much by using half-cooked links as in

https://twitter.com/
Nouriel/status/962479746444652544

(The line break makes the difference.)



622. Post 30083793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 11, 2018, 06:37:18 AM
hold on, I get the lube
Hey newcomer! Welcome to the wonderful world of The WOT.
For the lube, talk to our resident instructor BobLawBlaw.
I seem to remember the first lessons are without any, though.
Enjoy.



623. Post 30144523 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 12, 2018, 10:14:58 AM
I guess nobody cares about this: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/11/investing/lagarde-bitcoin-regulation/index.html

Wow was 8000 the new bottom retest?

Where’s Smokey the Bear?

Maybe that IMF statement was too pathetic sounding?
Why would anybody give a rat's ass about regulation when decentralized exchanges are on the horizon? For the very first time in history regulators won't be able to dictate their rule upon citizens.
Decentralized exchanges need fiat on/offramps too, so they can be choked or leashed by regulation. That's the one issue that still makes me give a ratt's ass.



624. Post 30144802 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 12, 2018, 11:03:23 AM
Machine learning + machine gun = fucking scary

It doesn’t matter if the machine isn’t conscious if it can mow you down instantly.
On a robot cheetah. That runs faster than any man alive. Without tiring. You can't trip it, you can't outrun it, can't out-aim it, can't hurt it with anything less than a hammer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luhn7TLfWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPanW0QWhA
A robot cheetah... hmm, a bit like the Rat Thing in Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash!



625. Post 30160352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 12, 2018, 04:39:26 PM
There are trading bots. They buy low and sell high. The whole day. Keep the spreads small, and it will be profit. Still doesn't beat a half decent hedge fund manager, you know, the real ones that make good decisions. (And yes, humans make bad decisions too.)
Most hedge funds get floored by the average equity market growth rates. And those that are the most competitive are highly data driven and rely on machine learning. The amount of data that goes into the trading decisions by a decent bot is something that no human could ever dream of processing himself. Especially not in realtime. If ML isn't the norm in hedge funds yet, it's only because of a lack of ML talent due to the relatively young age of the industry and not because humans can outperform the best algorithms.

^ This.



626. Post 30161033 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Elwar on February 12, 2018, 07:32:12 PM
https://markets.bisq.network/

bisq does fiat and is what they're calling a 'decentralized exchange'

Bisq does p2p matching much like localbitcoins. They use their app to match people and one or two guys act as arbitrators in case of dispute.

The idea is that there will be many arbitrators but when you look closer, it's basically the two guys that created the software. That's how they make money on it. Certainly a step in the right direction.
Bisq jumped on the BCH bandwagon during the fork trouble. Let's not forget that.



627. Post 30173538 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

I might be mistaken about bisq position in the BCH affair. Here's what I wrote.

Quote from: d_eddie on February 12, 2018, 07:42:02 PM
https://markets.bisq.network/

bisq does fiat and is what they're calling a 'decentralized exchange'

Bisq does p2p matching much like localbitcoins. They use their app to match people and one or two guys act as arbitrators in case of dispute.

The idea is that there will be many arbitrators but when you look closer, it's basically the two guys that created the software. That's how they make money on it. Certainly a step in the right direction.
Bisq jumped on the BCH bandwagon during the fork trouble. Let's not forget that.

I was sure I read something - on their front page, on their mailing list or somewhere else - to the effect that they were supporting BCH. It might have been a list of NY Agreement signatories?
However, I received a PM by one of our active members who did some research and couldn't find anything about that.

So I'm doubtful now. Any additional info could be useful to set this straight.



628. Post 30173893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Trilogy-AI on February 13, 2018, 01:21:55 AM
The chart I posted shows almost 4x more people are borrowing to bet that BTC will go up compared to people borrowing to bet that the price will go down.

I use this as a measure of sentiment and view it as bullish. But it can also go badly wrong. If the bears can fight against the tide and force the price downwards, they could start a cascade which would force the bulls out of their positions at a loss and trigger a massive price spike downwards.   

Elwar brings up a good point, in that the exchange where this data is drawn from (BfX) is forcing corporate accounts to close. Corporate accounts tend to be short bitcoin.  So this could just mean the underlying mix of players is changing with no change in sentiment. Hard to evaluate without further information.

That may be true, but compare that to a typical stock. The number of short investors is actually never *greater* than 25%. So by that measure, 25% betting that the price of BTC will go down is actually extremely bearish.
But this is crypto. Analogies with the stock market are often misleading and always risky.



629. Post 30196527 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on February 13, 2018, 04:41:24 AM
I guess nobody cares about this: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/11/investing/lagarde-bitcoin-regulation/index.html

Wow was 8000 the new bottom retest?

Where’s Smokey the Bear?

Maybe that IMF statement was too pathetic sounding?
Why would anybody give a rat's ass about regulation when decentralized exchanges are on the horizon? For the very first time in history regulators won't be able to dictate their rule upon citizens.
Decentralized exchanges need fiat on/offramps too, so they can be choked or leashed by regulation. That's the one issue that still makes me give a ratt's ass.
But wouldn't that be peer to peer also? Ie a private person sending money to another private person through Paypal or SEPA or Swish or whatever. Impossible for any bank or government to connect with a selling or buying of crypto.
You're correct, Arriemoller. But they've got automatic bank information exchange all over already, so they can at least be leashed by governments threatening banks if they don't playy watchdog on you. Your bank becomes your enemy. Uh, "becomes"?  Huh



630. Post 30197107 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 13, 2018, 08:24:17 AM
I ain't 'playing victim'. There is a wide gulf from permissionless innovation that you don't happen to care for, and outright lying in order to besmirch character.
I understood the first sentence, but I couldn't make sense of the second. Care to explain?

Certainly. MoA stated that I engaged in spamming in order to cripple Bitcoin Segwit. Of course, I have done nothing of the sort. As might be deduced from the fact that MoA was unable to provide a single shred of evidence for such an accusation. Ergo, MoA was lying. Likely in order to besmirch my character.

On the other end of the statement, the leveraging of Satoshi client assets by the Bitcoin Cash project is part and parcel of open source. There is nothing untoward nor illegitimate about doing so. This is how open source technology progresses.
Ah, now I see what "permissionless innovation that you don't happen to care for" means. The leveraging of open source assets is an intended possibility - a feature, so to say - and totally legit in my opinion, too. Kind of like dogecoin did. However, the naming, marketing and politics around Bcash is highly debatable. Well, that's my opinion anyway.



631. Post 30197337 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 13, 2018, 09:11:31 AM
...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.
Example: you have orders each 500$.
Sell at 8500 on the way up, but remove "buy at 8500 on the way down". Next you'll buy will be at $8000.
Same for the opposite direction, buy at $8000 on the way down, remove "sell at $8000 on the way up".

That's why you have a gap between your top buy and your bottom sell that is 2x your base interval. The gap is where the profit is made.

Admittedly, in my most comprehensive explanation, I explicitly left the reason for such 'as an exercise for the reader'. Perhaps I should have stated it.
Letting the readers figure some details by themselves helps to ensure full assimilation of the material  Wink

By the way, as opposed to JJG's implementation, so to say, of this system, you do seem to have a ladder of sells/buys already set up, and you do your maintainance by removing debris - that is, orders at the same price but on the opposite side of the one just executed. At least, that is the way I understand it.



632. Post 30216142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

In my experience. twentysomethings are still too distracted to be seriously into crypto. Moreover, they seldom have the financial resources to build any position. The most part of the not so many crypto-aware people I know are thirtysomethings and a couple folks in their forties. All males, over half of them techno-savvy.



633. Post 30217165 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Nosk on February 13, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
In my experience. twentysomethings are still too distracted to be seriously into crypto.

 Sad Offense taken.

I myself introduced a few of my twentysomething friends to crypto. As you said, they didn't put a lot of money into it, but it's something Smiley
Just my experience, man - don't take it personally.
It's probably just that I know the wrong twentysomethings.  Grin



634. Post 30222809 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: infofront on February 13, 2018, 04:35:59 PM
Bitcoin grew out of the cypherpunk movement, which started in the 70s-80s. A lot of pioneers of bitcoin came from that movement: Adam Back, Hal Finney, Nick Szabo, probably Satoshi Nakamoto, etc. So, Bitcoin was birthed by a bunch of old guys.
Guys who'd been around long enough to not only figure out how elliptic curve cryptography works, but also to draw the necessary lines from/to economy, game theory and all that. Younger people can pull off great discoveries in specific fields - indeed, it's usually younger folks who do that - but large interdisciplinary endeavors are more suited to mature people IMO.

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I'll also take the opportunity to rant a bit. Out of those four I mentioned, one is AWOL, one is dead, and the other two are fervent supporters of Bitcoin over BCash. Bitcoin is much more closely aligned with the original cypherpunk principles that elevate privacy and decentralization.
It's not even worth discussing. A forkcoin more or less signed into existence by an agreement of a few commercial enterprises and kept alive by a single conglomerate through the use of dubious tactics...



635. Post 30223142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Nosk on February 13, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
(quotes edited for relevance)

It's probably just that I know the wrong twentysomethings.  Grin

I have seen a research highligthing that young adults give much more interest to crypto than traditional stocks so yes you probably don't know the right twentysomething Smiley
Sounds bullish for the future though.

The young'uns I know don't know anything about the stock market, either. I could say that in my personal, small sample of twentysomethings, there's about 2-3 times as much interest for crypto as for traditional stocks. Or 10 times, even.  Tongue



636. Post 30235861 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Anon136 on February 13, 2018, 09:01:34 PM
Is this real? How do I use it? Or what is a good resource to explain how to use it?
https://99bitcoins.com/what-is-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-a-beginners-explanation/

This is a good beginning methinks.

Understand what it is and how it works (in theory). I'm wondering how do I physically utilize those nodes in that picture to my advantage right now?
Is there a LN enabled wallet beyond beta stage? I doubt it.

I think at the moment it's a matter of lobbying for merchant adoption. Exchanges embracing it would be the best thing to happen, but I don't see it happening without strong user pressure - or possibly competition from decentralized exchanges. Just see what it took for Coinbase to upgrade to segwit and batch transactions!



637. Post 30238923 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 13, 2018, 10:11:06 PM
There's already people losing bitcoins from using it too early. This is one of the first losses.

https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/953043039701819392

Dood! That is EXACTLY what I was talking about before. Development 101! Test first, then TEST SOME MORE, then pay somebody to hack it for you (if necessary) and THEN release it...  Undecided

This would never have happened with a simple blocksize increase.
And the huge Yahoo data hack would never have happened with a simple messenger pigeon stock increase.



638. Post 30239063 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 13, 2018, 10:16:35 PM
Imagine the souls that would be crushed if it just dropped below 6K right here.
It just so happens I'm running out of crushed bull soul!
By the looks of it, bears gonna have another crack at 8393

Wait long enough, bears gonna have a very good crack at 50k.



639. Post 30272058 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Here we go? 11k in the weekend?



640. Post 30272193 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
Hey guys, JPMorgan thinks that Bitcoin is a "fraud", but for some reason also believes that Bitcoin ETFs are the "Holy Grail"...

http://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-explains-why-a-bitcoin-etf-is-a-holy-grail-2018-2

 Roll Eyes
Business Insider, hm.
I wonder if this is a $500 article or a $1000 article.
In other terms, has it been paid 0.055 or 0.11 BTC?



641. Post 30274562 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on February 14, 2018, 01:09:04 PM
Who remembers having WO page:btc parity
Easy, my friend. We all do.
In due time.
Just keep posting  Wink



642. Post 30274920 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 01:15:27 PM

Why do we always need to wait for Zerohedge to start posting to know what the reason for the pump is. Are there no "insiders" on here ?

No. It's because robo-trading on technicals. "Reason" is made up and completely irrelevant.
Agree. It's just a little negative (minus) FUD, which as we know has less impact than positive (actual) FUD, which as we know has relative impact. It smells technical, definitely.



643. Post 30276675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 14, 2018, 01:29:49 PM
Hey guys, JPMorgan thinks that Bitcoin is a "fraud", but for some reason also believes that Bitcoin ETFs are the "Holy Grail"...

http://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-explains-why-a-bitcoin-etf-is-a-holy-grail-2018-2

 Roll Eyes
ETFs easier to trade then cryptos. Lmao.
For the normies, it might be actually.



644. Post 30277415 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 01:53:24 PM
Hey guys, JPMorgan thinks that Bitcoin is a "fraud", but for some reason also believes that Bitcoin ETFs are the "Holy Grail"...

http://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-explains-why-a-bitcoin-etf-is-a-holy-grail-2018-2

 Roll Eyes
ETFs easier to trade then cryptos. Lmao.
For the normies, it might be actually.

And for the whale stock traders that want to use 1000X leverage, lol.
The issue in my opinion is all crypto ETFs should be crypto (as opposed to fiat) backed.



645. Post 30281727 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 14, 2018, 02:06:59 PM
It's over 9000! Grin

No vegeta around here?
Must we have pretty pictures on every single page?
Uh well, a few curves now and then wouldn't be totally out of place methinks.



646. Post 30281870 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 14, 2018, 02:53:34 PM
What the fuck is going on with the mempool ? Good lord.

We have fucking wormsign. For sure this time.
One of us (Jojo?) noted that mempool activity is a decent predictor of price activity. I can't find the post in this huge thread though.



647. Post 30282142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Volume surging. Buckle up gents, I have reason to believe it will be a long, choo-choo weekend.



648. Post 30282450 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 03:11:10 PM
What the fuck is going on with the mempool ? Good lord.

We have fucking wormsign. For sure this time.

D: what the fuck is that ?
Blockchain.info bug and then mempool size double ?



Edit : Are we facing a mempool attack ? Look at all the 1-2 sat/byte transactions...
https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#24h


Roger probably just got his wittle panties in a wad again over the whole "Bitcoin Core" shit.... so he sicced his attack dogs on the Bitcoin mempool again, lmao.
This time it might be something more substantial. If it's Roger "dont call it bcash, I'm a millionaire" Ver, his timing is not that good.



649. Post 30360613 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 15, 2018, 04:29:58 AM
Sorry folks, I'm sure it won't happen again. Embarrassed
With all due respect, Mayor, can you please stop fucking with us?
This Rosewater business - kidnapped, no, he's just hiding, no, it's my (millionaire BMB's) alter ego... it's exhausting.
And I don't even want to start thinking about reviving that squalid goofy business with our pants...
 Angry

EDIT - This is my post #666. Mean anything?



650. Post 30360830 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 15, 2018, 06:06:43 PM

Epic...lol!
You’re good my friend!

Damn ,I couldn’t find that one on the google...
Sounds a bit like old JJG  Grin



651. Post 30361253 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Aha! I knew! FOUND IT (proud  Cool )

Quote from: suchmoon on February 15, 2018, 04:54:28 PM
We need a wordy man meme....



Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 15, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
You are such a fucking pain in the ass, PoolMinor.

Your whole point seems to be that you want to make a BTC price prediction; however, you cannot just come out and make your supposedly marvelous prediction like a normal person. Instead, you want to get some kind of credit and praise and begging and DRAMA regarding how amazing your are, and therefore, you are trying to suggest that you had been correct about some thing BTC related in the past that you saw in a past BTC price trned/prediction from a year and a half ago, and so therefore there is some kind of connection in your logic or the charts or some kind of smartness that you supposedly have about today that is connected with your previous supposed smartness?  

(...)



652. Post 30363624 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 15, 2018, 06:27:45 PM

not as good as suchmoon. it's a learning process.
sad edit: don't ride him, man. he's the only mayor we got.
Thank you. I'll try to go easy on the Mayor.
But but but... my pants... uhhh, fk, forget about that. Try to, at least.

Merited for self-celebration anyway  Wink



653. Post 30363717 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on February 15, 2018, 06:39:50 PM
...
And I don't even want to start thinking about reviving that squalid goofy business with our pants...


What squalid goofy business with your pants don't you want to revive?
STOP IT!
I'm trying to forget.
It's still grinding my aching gears, as PG would say.



654. Post 30417868 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 16, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
It's also quite sad that financial literacy isn't being taught in schools, not even electively. And it could be easily taught in playful ways that anybody could pick up on too.

Agreed. But along with basic financial literacy coursework, the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad" should be required reading.
Great book. I like your reads! Smiley



655. Post 30652746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Been away a couple of days, the backlog of unread pages is overwhelming. What if we had been mooning already? I cringe.



656. Post 30652826 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 17, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
How are we not designed to work 24/7? That's what people were doing when they lived in the woods and that has changed only fairly recently as far as I'm aware.
Well, but we didn't live as long back then.

(hope I didn't mess up with the quote attribution)



657. Post 30653242 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 18, 2018, 06:48:36 PM
I guess part of it, I refuse to be the sexual property of another, so it would be pretty messed up for me to demand it the other way.
I see things the same way.

However, most of the women I had deals with don't care a bit about being free (as in "not sexual property"). They just care about getting the exclusive rights, and are ready to give up their sexual freedom for it - at least in the relationship negotiation phase. There might be truth in the evolutionary explications for this kind of behavior.



658. Post 30653835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

About cucks.

The word "cuck" has nothing to do with polyamorism. I think it denotes males who get excited when they see their woman engage in sex with other men.

I've known two such guys who wanted me to get it on with their lady. One was embarrassingly insistent. This guy was hoping to step in and have a threesome actually. I had to turn him down in a cold, unfriendly manner. The other guy was shy bordering on ashamed, and sent his woman to discuss the matter. I turned that down too, but gently. I later talked alone to the lady (who was my ex), and I suggested the two of us could make a tape for him. We met in private, but the event wasn't taped in the end  Grin

The use of "cuck" as an insult statistically indicates one or more of the following: sexual insecureness, racism, moderate right wing conservatism, fascism, ignorance, protracted adolescence.



659. Post 30653986 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.



660. Post 30654318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: thrax on February 20, 2018, 03:01:03 AM
I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.
I suspected it would be impossible.
We could insta-quote jbreher, then, for posterity and historical documentation.
The necessary edits could be carried out in the quote by us - simple posters, not the moderator.
The moderators could simple come in for a little cleanup after that - which would not be censorship, since the post would have already been quoted... O:-)

Maybe nasty, OK. But this is supposed to be a bitcoin forum after all. That sneaky language is a bit sickening.



661. Post 30671475 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 20, 2018, 05:38:10 AM
wishing I had 1btc for every word JayJuanGee typed
You know bitcoin has a ~21M hard limit, don't you?  Tongue Tongue Tongue



662. Post 30705504 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Not so quickly, honey badger, not too quick. Take a short nap, will you?



663. Post 30712033 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

South Korea economic policymaker Jung Ki-Joon found dead in his home. He was one of the main government advisors for cryptocurrency matters. Probably a heart attack.
He was the single most important contributor to the recent KYC/AML crackdown on South Korean exchanges.
Hm. Hm. Don't know what to think. Bullish? Bearish? Dontgiveafuckish?
Was it really his heart, or something he drank/ate?
I'm beginning to sound like Torque, I know, but but...



664. Post 30715643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
The Hairy channel continues.  Softly softly and slowly slowly catchee monkey.
Sweet and slow is how we like it right now!



665. Post 30720313 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Nice plan indeed.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 20, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
Holy shit. I think I'm unofficially retired as of an hour ago.
It hasn't hit me yet.
Making it official with a select group tomorrow, then telling my direct manager on Friday.
Wow.
I can't believe I actually pulled this plan off...
Congratulations!
Do you have any plans as to what you're going to do from now on?

Coolest items ever:
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- Work with vocal coach for refining my range
- Travelling the world and building up a library of first-order ambisonic ambient recordings

Bitcoin stuff for select bitcoiners. Quite cool, obviously.
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- Bitcoin Lightning Network involvement with running a node Planning to do this myself, in the near future
- Chillin' wit all you homies in this thread

Normie stuff I already do as appropriate/necessary, retired or not:
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- Catch up on sleep
- Work on writing / recording music
- Lots of reading
- Drinking beer

All strictly IMO, of course. Different strokes and all that.

I'm proud for you, and I don't even know you in person. I can barely imagine how you will feel as soon as your adaptation period is through!



666. Post 30797962 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

I know offtopic posts are frowned upon here, and some topics are more off than other, but I'll risk it.

Have you heard about cryptocurrencies? Well there's this nifty thing called bitcoin, it's my favorite.
It's holding 10.5 k-ish.



667. Post 30799293 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Some time ago we had a discussion here about a possible issue with the Lightning Network. Some big blocker was suggesting that the Lightning Network is doomed to fail because routing and because problems.

The potential problem is similar to a double spend attempt. Briefly and roughly: Alice has a channel with Bob, Alice sends funds to Bob and while Bob is offline she broadcasts the channel state as it was before she spent the funds, thus undoing the spend. However, if anyone broadcasts the correct (later) channel state, Alice is done: the whole channel balance goes to Bob. Serves her right for trying to cheat.

The problem is, if Bob's offline he knows nothing about Alice's wrongdoings, so there must be someone watching the channel for him. This someone could be rewarded by Bob with part of the funds if cheating is discovered (and therefore funds are gained by Bob). I speculated that a bounty market could come into existence. It seems there are already some bounty hunters in the present, clunky version of the LN. They are doing it for free at the moment, since the cost of watching a few channels is negligible.

It's in the comments. The video itself is technical. Mention of the bounty hunters was the topic that spurred the most attention in the discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7xrq5g/lightning_network_and_discreet_log_contracts/



668. Post 30830645 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 22, 2018, 02:13:13 AM
Some time ago we had a discussion here about a possible issue with the Lightning Network. Some big blocker was suggesting that the Lightning Network is doomed to fail because routing and because problems.

The potential problem is similar to a double spend attempt. Briefly and roughly: Alice has a channel with Bob, Alice sends funds to Bob and while Bob is offline she broadcasts the channel state as it was before she spent the funds, thus undoing the spend. However, if anyone broadcasts the correct (later) channel state, Alice is done: the whole channel balance goes to Bob. Serves her right for trying to cheat.

The problem is, if Bob's offline he knows nothing about Alice's wrongdoings, so there must be someone watching the channel for him. This someone could be rewarded by Bob with part of the funds if cheating is discovered (and therefore funds are gained by Bob). I speculated that a bounty market could come into existence. It seems there are already some bounty hunters in the present, clunky version of the LN. They are doing it for free at the moment, since the cost of watching a few channels is negligible.

It's in the comments. The video itself is technical. Mention of the bounty hunters was the topic that spurred the most attention in the discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7xrq5g/lightning_network_and_discreet_log_contracts/

I'm guessing that I may be the aforementioned big blocker. What with our continued conversations over my skepticism and all.
Yes jbreher, that's you. I didn't mention your name explicitly to avoid a tide of ad-hominem noise, but it seems you don't care that much.

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Thanks for posting. I'll read.

There's a lot of layers here. As just one example: 'how much channel state is exposed to outsiders to allow such to police random actors?' But I'll reserve detailed discussion until after I land.
I'll read more carefully, too. I just gave a glance to the top posts. But more importantly, I'd like to listen to the talk on video. It seems rich with technical details, but I really can't stand lengthy videos. I much prefer the organized written form for complex content.



669. Post 30832383 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 22, 2018, 02:32:14 AM
I know offtopic posts are frowned upon here, and some topics are more off than other, but I'll risk it.

Have you heard about cryptocurrencies? Well there's this nifty thing called bitcoin, it's my favorite.
It's holding 10.5 k-ish.


What is that supposed to mean?  You are bullish and hoping, or what?
I was expressing sarcastic discontent with all the racial/save the earth/left/right irrelevant talk, just trying to steer discussion into honey badger related territory.   Tongue

Nice to see you're (still, always) on it! Grin

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Let me ask you a semi-personal question which is a kind of after-the-fact assessment regarding how you faired through our dip down to $6k?  Are you of the opinion that you largely ran out of money to buy BTC between $6k and $8k, even though you were able to buy some BTC in those price ranges?  Were you able to adjust some of your strategy in order to possibly better prepare in the future, or are you largely hoping that we are out of this downward price pickle?
I almost ran out. I kept placing buy orders hoping/thinking "it can't possibly go much lower than this". So I accumulated quite a bit (well, everything is relative) barely shy of selling grandma to buy moar.

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Let me report my own personal scenario from the mid-September 2017 40% correction down from $4,980 to $2,970 - which was that after going through that situation, I had to readjust a considerable amount of my preparations, which actually caused me to oversell a bit from our BTC rebounding back up from $2,970, and really I did not feel that I completely recuperated until we started to break upwards back into new ATHs.. and then the icing on the cake restructuring came for me around 2x higher in the $10k arena and further more when we passed $15k which allowed a fuckload of restructuring and even added cockiness....
Good for you. I wasn't as forward-looking (or well funded?) as you, but I managed to do fairly well.

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So, I am anticipating that even though you are making recovery plans from the unexpected over correction of 70% down to $5,920 that you are going to be in a much better position to really restructure your plan as BTC gets back up and maybe even becoming more solid in your approach as we assume the ATH again (assuming that we accomplish such either this year or a worse bull case scenario would be that it takes longer than a year to get above ATH again).... yeah, yeah, yeah, Beara readers, I understand also that there are also bear scenarios that could cause worse outcomes, even though I believe that a lot of us in this thread, including yours truly put a bit more weight on the probability of bull scenarios in the coming year rather than bear scenarios..

The NUMBERS, JayJuanGee, the NUMBERS! Don't you know we all read your posts just for the juicy probabilities with 4 significant digits after the decimal point??  Angry

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and that is part of the reason that we are in bitcoin and part of the reason why we get so freaking excited about bitcoin.
If only that reckless badger would stop drinking and driving... eh Hairy guy?



670. Post 30832514 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 22, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

I like your theory:

Bitcoin

To

Is Pegged

Everything

How
Why
U
Yoda
Like
Talk?



671. Post 30832843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 22, 2018, 01:08:25 PM
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

I have to agree with this reading of things. Torque might be a master of paranoid thinking and a conspiracy nut, but more often than not subsequent events agree with his (broad stroked, not numerically pinpointed) predictions.



672. Post 30835001 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 22, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
(snip)
The NUMBERS, JayJuanGee, the NUMBERS! Don't you know we all read your posts just for the juicy probabilities with 4 significant digits after the decimal point??  Angry
Don't remind me.  I am declining in my segregating amalgamated skill-set package (as jbreher might refer to it) and I cannot even keep up.
(snip)
2) buying more BTC, just in case (perhaps 34.8% odds... o.k... im slipping, im slipping), prices go below $6,666.
Not a slip, but a step back into the right direction. But still only 1 digit. Keep working at it!  Smiley



673. Post 30835152 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on February 22, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Back from a 7 day ban!! Wohoooooooooooo YES We're going to 9k like it or not. Than back to test defending resistance, I call a breakout next run

How the fuck did you get yourself banned in a place that lets fascist roaches roam unchecked?
Must have been a different thread with stricter rules.



674. Post 30835351 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on February 22, 2018, 02:15:13 PM
Back from a 7 day ban!! Wohoooooooooooo YES We're going to 9k like it or not. Than back to test defending resistance, I call a breakout next run

How the fuck did you get yourself banned in a place that lets fascist roaches roam unchecked?
Must have been a different thread with stricter rules.

There are different threads?  Shocked Huh
I'd assumed the temp ban was from the whole bitcointalk.org site. I was guessing, might be wrong.



675. Post 30845447 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 22, 2018, 04:38:53 PM
Bitcoin ate my hamster!

Bitcorn is eating my balls since it dropped below $12k Sad

Sad retiredfag is sad.
A humble suggestion from a serene, non-sad, not-yet-retired straightie.

Just live on your scrawny, meager, pathetic already-cashed-out stash for a year or so. A couple maybe, if it is not that paltry. Try not to think of that ball-munching drunken badger too much (ok, admittedly not that easy if you keep on hanging out here with us spooks).

After a year of pitiful poverty, I bet you'll see things in a different light. Who knows, the smelly critter might sober up, even. Of course, you still have to suffer being temporarily poor   Wink

And mind your balls, get them out of the corn and into more deserving ginger places. Or wherever you like, as long as you keep them safe from erosion.



676. Post 30849528 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 22, 2018, 05:38:35 PM
I'm not sure what your deal is, yo, but my chocolate starfish could use a good tongue-banging.
The number and variety of ways you have to express this single concept is mind-boggling (and quite entertaining). One more reason to stick to this thread for me  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



677. Post 30981757 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: bones261 on February 23, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I really don't appreciate this additional gag gift the bear whales are serving up today. Gee whiz, my 50th hasn't even arrived in my part of the world, yet. Come on BTC markets, you have a little less than 12 hours to turn this around.  Angry Friday is going to be hard enough for me.  Cry
Whine and you shall receive!  Cheesy

Hope this trend holds. Waking up to $10,000+ BTC was a nice birthday surprise. Please BTC, don't make my 50th harder than it already is.
Sorry I've been away and couldn't congratulate you. Smile, my friend, smile! They say 50 is the new 40, so life is just about to begin again! Smiley

And bitcoin will rise, as she always does.



678. Post 30982439 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

I quite agree with your idea of things, bitserve.

Quote from: bitserve on February 23, 2018, 08:50:11 PM
As a suggestion, try to partner with a woman that has his own fully paid home and almost as much money than you. Don't let her ever sell that home (she can rent it though), specially not if you are planning to have children (with her). Everything will be easier if when things get messed up.

P.S.: Oh, as a side note... you will soon discover that many of those woman are not that much (desperately) interested into having children either. Wonder why.

... and, as someone also said, from a statistical point of view, such a woman wouldn't be too interested into having a relationship with someone with about as much money as her. Hypergamy and things.



679. Post 31035661 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 25, 2018, 09:52:33 AM
This is why GPU/CPU mining is a lot better than ASICs i think.

GPU companies have to build&sell GPUs no matter what because gamers need to game. CPU manufacturers have to build&sell CPUs no matter what because there will be a demand whether people mine crypto or not. Nvidia/AMD/Intel will be making hardware no matter what. They can't be deceived by evil crypto criminals.

But ASICs? This is cancer.

There is no way Nvidia/Intel build HW and mine Bitcoin without getting noticed but Bitmain can. Because that's their only job. Nvidia and the others can't run a 2 businesses at once. They are making GPU/CPU's and we are exploiting their business. Good for us.

Maybe Cobra is right. Better late than ever.
My opinion is that preparing for a soft PoW change would be a good thing. Keywords: preparing and soft.

A monopoly on mining is an evil thing. It keeps decentralization from really taking place. However, changing PoW drastically without a grace period would only alienate the "good" miners - probably ruin them, and piss them off enough to turn them (rightfully) bad.

One way could be to have a PoW that alternates between a few different hash functions - some of which hard to implement on ASICs, probably because of insane RAM requirements although there are alternatives. The alternance should be based on past history; the percentage of SHA-256 blocks could be dynamic, so "good" miners are incentivized to keep their percentage high by maintaining good demeanor. Or there could be a multiple PoW in each block, so that both a SHA-256 proof and some other proof(s) are necessary for validation. Each PoW function should maintain a different difficulty scale, and the difficulties could be combined into some overall metric. Such a system would be highly tweakable, and adapt dynamically.

(EDIT - about "softness". The initial conditions could be 100% ASIC-based, 0% others, as it is now. Then in times of mempool storms, or fork FUD, or whatever, the "others" might be gently pushed up until the situation gets back to normal.)

Any working solution should be designed with game theory in mind, not only the obvious complexity theory. A long check on testnet would be necessary, to figure out at least the complexity part, if not the game theory part.

(Inb4 - Bitcoin is a scam designed to centralize because no digital money can ever blah blah the Joos blah blah gold and silver.)



680. Post 31036293 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

I'd posted my reply about PoW change before reading the posts by Icygreen, flipperish, flynn and others.

I, too, would like the full nodes to have a say in the relative distribution of hash functions, but full nodes are too easy to sybyl attack. PoS vote is also dangerous, because established miners have huge availability they could employ to crush GPU- or CPU- friendly functions. That's why we will eventually need to figure out more game theory to have a stable solution.



681. Post 31036691 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Also, if I'm allowed to dream wildly on future Bitcoin technology development, I would love some kind of blockchain checkpointing to be implemented. This allows ultra-light nodes to have no trust (or very little) when first syncing.



682. Post 31037486 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on February 25, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
I'd posted my reply about PoW change before reading the posts by Icygreen, flipperish, flynn and others.

I, too, would like the full nodes to have a say in the relative distribution of hash functions, but full nodes are too easy to sybyl attack. PoS vote is also dangerous, because established miners have huge availability they could employ to crush GPU- or CPU- friendly functions. That's why we will eventually need to figure out more game theory to have a stable solution.
Could you elaborate on the bold part?

PoS - Those who can prove ownership of coin get more votes.

Short: An established miner has (or can quickly have) lots of coin lying around, so he can steer the voting result more easily than a few hodlers with the same total stake (read: stash).

Longer: Giving each satoshi the same voting weight is a hard problem, possibly unsolvable. What is needed is a hypothetical system of incentives that makes GPU- and CPU- miner owned satoshis as heavy as ASIC-miner owned ones. Is such a system practical to implement? Does it ever exist? I doubt it. That's why PoS is dangerous.



683. Post 31038096 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 25, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
I, too, would like the full nodes to have a say in the relative distribution of hash functions

I would like an option for semi-full nodes, where they can store fractions of the blockchain bittorrent-like, and above all incentives for them and the full nodes, like a small fraction of the fees.
A kind of distributed checkpointing? That would be nice, I agree.

However, Bittorrent as a protocol has a lot of back-and-forth chatter, more so if it's trackerless and decentralized (DHT). That's why it just won't play nice with mesh networks like TOR. I don't know anything about the technicals of checkpointing, though. There might be some alternative solutions, but their efficiency needs to be accurately evaluated.



684. Post 31038721 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Icygreen on February 25, 2018, 01:35:19 PM
I've been considering running a mining rig simply for the education it would offer but I'm on the fence knowing that it may not be profitable and also realizing it will likely change drastically in the short term future. I also don't want to buy from jihan with bcash some overpriced, outdated box.
I mean, I seed my torrents properly and I'd prefer to contribute to BTC pools but where to start today?
We're in the same position. Mining has become a hardcore game for big players. It's financially risky and you are subjected to the whims and abuses of people like Jihan. Not to mention the policies of governments. They can't stop bitcoin, but they can stop miners fairly easily, giving the minimum mining farm size of today.

That's another reason why I would love some real decentralization by soft PoW modulation.



685. Post 31041401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 01:54:36 PM
People who can't compete always want to change the rules of the game.
Especially if the game is about keeping open competition.

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I don't care if there is only one shovel maker. Good for them for being successful at what they do.
I do care, if they can charge whatever they want for their shovels, to the point of suppressing shoveling when they don't want it to happen.

Monopoly is never good, except for the monopolist. Don't jbreher yourself into a corner.



686. Post 31041687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: STT on February 25, 2018, 01:58:05 PM
I'd posted my reply about PoW change before reading the posts by Icygreen, flipperish, flynn and others.

I, too, would like the full nodes to have a say in the relative distribution of hash functions, but full nodes are too easy to sybyl attack. PoS vote is also dangerous, because established miners have huge availability they could employ to crush GPU- or CPU- friendly functions. That's why we will eventually need to figure out more game theory to have a stable solution.
Could you elaborate on the bold part?

PoS - Those who can prove ownership of coin get more votes.

Short: An established miner has (or can quickly have) lots of coin lying around, so he can steer the voting result more easily than a few hodlers with the same total stake (read: stash).

Longer: Giving each satoshi the same voting weight is a hard problem, possibly unsolvable. What is needed is a hypothetical system of incentives that makes GPU- and CPU- miner owned satoshis as heavy as ASIC-miner owned ones. Is such a system practical to implement? Does it ever exist? I doubt it. That's why PoS is dangerous.

Proof of Stake has coin age to consider, any participant has to first be fully upto date and part of a network for some time in order to then be part of the staking process which even then is randomised not on demand.    Theres only some average rate at which a large holder will stake not that they can force participation.   POS is dangerous if the majority of a crypto currency is liquid on an exchange perhaps, its unlikely to be especially cheap to undermine in this way
That's a good point that I haven't considered fully. Guess I need to read up a bit more.

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I do imagine Proof of stake is going to be part of Ethereum this year as they move to make their transactions cheaper, faster and more efficient.   Vitalik Buterin seems quite focused on avoiding the problems bitcoin transactions had with mining fees and POS is the most viable route ?
Buterin would do better to first make sure transactions are irreversible.



687. Post 31042156 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: itod on February 25, 2018, 02:07:24 PM
(snip)

(EDIT - about "softness". The initial conditions could be 100% ASIC-based, 0% others, as it is now. Then in times of mempool storms, or fork FUD, or whatever, the "others" might be gently pushed up until the situation gets back to normal.)

There can not be soft fork PoW change, it's the hardest of all hard forks.
But but... initial 0%? It's as soft as can be. As long as it doesn't budge from 0%, it's still good ol'bitcoin.

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Keep in mind that no one would more encourage such a change than Jihan Wu. If such thing happen, he will have a ground to a claim BCash is the real Bitcoin, and he knows that claim is false in current situation. I'm afraid he may even really attack Bitcoin just to make some more incentive for PoW change.
I haven't considered this. It seems a bit far fetched, but not totally out of this world.

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IMHO the only thing that can justify PoW change is Quantum computing attack on SHA2, and Cuckoo Cycle is Quantum resistant btw. Doing it now is jumping in the abyss just for the sake of change.
Yes, a quantum computing breakout (unlikely for several years to come) would destroy Bitcoin as we know it. Having the necessary machinery for PoW in place could be a safety exit. Just insert Cuckoo Cycle into an "other hashing algos" slot.



688. Post 31042608 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
People who can't compete always want to change the rules of the game.
Especially if the game is about keeping open competition.

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I don't care if there is only one shovel maker. Good for them for being successful at what they do.
I do care, if they can charge whatever they want for their shovels, to the point of suppressing shoveling when they don't want it to happen.

Monopoly is never good, except for the monopolist. Don't jbreher yourself into a corner.
If they raised prices a hundredfold from here, and it was still profitable to buy their stuff, then that's fair game.

The market can bear whatever it can bear. Let's not turn into pretend-communists.
You don't need to be a communist to expect markets to be as efficient as they can be. In fact, market efficiency is not a primary concern in communist utopy. For capitalists, however, monopolies and oligopolies are the primary source of market inefficiency.

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And why would you compare me to yogi? That makes no sense.
Nothing personal, and probably not too accurate. All right, I apologise. The point is, although you come from very different places, you can end up arriving at the same point. Big blocks, miner power and progressive irrelevance of the network of users (as in "full nodes").



689. Post 31042795 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 25, 2018, 02:11:29 PM

IMHO the only thing that can justify PoW change is Quantum computing attack on SHA2, and Cuckoo Cycle is Quantum resistant btw. Doing it now is jumping in the abyss just for the sake of change.

Core devs can come out and say "We upgrading the btc protocol to keep it safe against Quantum computers so a PoW change is necessary".

Bitmain will have no ground against this.  Grin
Just merited you - even with that fuckface avatar  Wink



690. Post 31043293 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
Adam Smith was right. Stop trying to control things and everything works out. So there is only one shovel maker? That means their products are functional and their prices are reasonable. The moment either of those stop being the case, someone else will overtake them.

The invisible hand only works if there are no hidden hand-choppers, like unnaturally high entry barriers to the business or vast discrepancies in the price of energy.



691. Post 31044870 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 02:52:29 PM
Adam Smith was right. Stop trying to control things and everything works out. So there is only one shovel maker? That means their products are functional and their prices are reasonable. The moment either of those stop being the case, someone else will overtake them.

The invisible hand only works if there are no hidden hand-choppers, like unnaturally high entry barriers to the business or vast discrepancies in the price of energy.
Alright, point them out.
I'll point out just one: delayed access to leading edge mining hardware. A jus primae noctis of sorts, imposed by the lord to the commoners.



692. Post 31052273 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 25, 2018, 02:44:57 PM
Andreas has an opinion on this %51 attack debate also.
https://twitter.com/Xentagz/status/967432856745193473

I am convinced.
Twitter media aren't working well, no suitable MIME type and stuff. I found a link to the full talk on YouTube, but it's almost 1 hour long. Could you provide an approximate time or a YouTube link to the appropriate time?



693. Post 31054360 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 25, 2018, 04:53:44 PM
Andreas has an opinion on this %51 attack debate also.
https://twitter.com/Xentagz/status/967432856745193473

I am convinced.
Twitter media aren't working well, no suitable MIME type and stuff. I found a link to the full talk on YouTube, but it's almost 1 hour long. Could you provide an approximate time or a YouTube link to the appropriate time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncPyMUfNyVM
Thank you  Cheesy



694. Post 31082800 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 25, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
After reading comments in this thread I have been persuaded there is a real risk that a POW change would just further the Bcash agenda and so isn’t worth the risk right now. Even “preparing” is risky.  

For a threat to have the desired effect the subject must be convinced the threat is credible. Preparations are essential.

Bgold showed it is easy enough.  
Yes, but actually testing some alternance between PoW methods (one of which is old SHA-2) with variable mix percentages/strategies would make the point that much clearer. Testnet only, at first.

Just predispose the "combination strategy" and "combination factor (PoW#1)" ... "combination factor (PoW#n)" fields, and play with them a little. Then the (0, 1, ... , 0) position is exactly as today. Not to be disruptive, we'll try normalized(0, 1, 0.1, ... , 0) next - or (0, 0.97, 0.03, ... , 0), you know, just for the heck of it. Hm, and let's see what happens by combining them differently. Who's playing "bad guy" for this round of simulations? How many ASIC miners do you have?

The parameters could be tweaked by hand at first, just to get a feel for it. Later on, they could auto-adjust depending on measurable blockchain/mempool metrics. I'll let your gaming fantasy get wild here.

No need to freak out, gentlemen. The parameters on main net are still fixed at normalized(0, 1, 0, 0, ... , 0) = (0, 1, 0, 0, ... , 0). That's plain ol'corn for you. This is only a testnet game, of course. Nice though, eh?

That would really make a point.



695. Post 31083868 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 25, 2018, 08:19:14 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That's a man of the mountains, he can walk on the clouds.
A manipulator of crowds with the moon in his eyes.



696. Post 31083993 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 26, 2018, 05:24:18 AM
If you run it on test net someone will run it on main net and then we have self manufactured fork crisis.  
You just build some heavy machinery replay protection trick with each parameter change (or maybe just for the initial one), so the self manufactured crisis makers can fork themselves, or rather fork off, as they wish. Client nodes still know which chain is which.

In other words: you build a loaded toy gun and show the world how it works. Then someone misguided recklessly takes it and makes into a real gun without client node consensus, so they end up in toy world.

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Mem pool organically rising.  Bullish?
Not much of a jokerman diviner myself, but I'd say "likely, but not necessarily".



697. Post 31208318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on February 27, 2018, 06:44:32 PM
(snip)

Just waiting for roach to turn up talking about how it's all part of (((their))) plan
I have he or she on ignore and it's so much better not reading all the hate bollocks
He or she?
It's as likely to be a "she" as a Zionist.



698. Post 31218646 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Closer flirting with 11k.
Bob's shovel must be a large one.
Keep at it!



699. Post 31218947 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 27, 2018, 09:05:10 PM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-on-cryptocurrency-2018-2?r=US&IR=T

    Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have.
    He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations.
    Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky."


Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

Bill Gates is also the same guy who thought the Internet, anarchic network of networks as it used to be, would be a passing fad and everyone would just use the Microsoft Network.



700. Post 31223244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Vastly offtopic - but more relevant than race talk.

Quote from: jbreher on February 27, 2018, 11:04:27 PM
Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

I almost didn't want to respond to this but... well...  No.

First, he never said that. Second, it was not 64k, but 640 Ki. Lastly, have you ever looked at the architecture of an 8088? It weren't no 6800. 1 MiB was the limit before resorting to silly paging techniques like those required on an 8051 or somesuch. Some area needed to be set aside for drivers, HW, and OS. High memory was chosen for that - less than half.
Right, it's 640, I was off by a factor of 10.

8088... no, never touched one. But I do have a secondhand idea of how an 80x86 works - and I think 286 and 386 (full 32 bit addressing possible) were current at the time he is reported to have said that (late 80's/early '90s). Advanced users were forced to use memory extender add-ons. The memory model concept was an ugly kludge, even if the quote is a fake.

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Sure, in retrospect we probably would have done it different. But I'm guessing ol' Bill never dreamed that the crude CP/M boot loader and disk reader that he bought would form the foundation for the bulk of computing for decades to come.
By that time, he knew already. Hence his dream of conquering the world with the Microsoft Network.



701. Post 31223378 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 27, 2018, 09:05:10 PM
(...) Bill Gates
said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem
I'd say it depends on the drugs one buys.

And even if it's some "wrong" drug, getting it anonymously on the Internet sure beats looking for a fix in dodgy places.



702. Post 31250267 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 28, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
Anyone know how to get cryptowatch to display the chart in log scale? Can't find the option

hover over this thingy (top centre right) and your dreams will come true
~
meanwhile Rabobank wants our bitcoins
http://www.rabobit.nl/

Store your cryptocurrencies in a wallet hosted by a trusted party and within the secure online banking environment.

It could be interesting if there was a reasonable yearly interest.
Like 10% backed by crypto reserves. Or by 2x undiluted stocks.
Not gonna happen eh?  Tongue



703. Post 31250989 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Probably irrelevant, but here's a fresh AMA by Bill and Melinda Gates on Reddit.
I haven't read it, and don't think I will in the near future.
A page search for "bitcoin" yielded nothing, but I didn't bother searching for "crypto" or other related terms.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/



704. Post 31251565 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 28, 2018, 10:50:20 AM
Probably irrelevant, but here's a fresh AMA by Bill and Melinda Gates on Reddit.
I haven't read it, and don't think I will in the near future.
A page search for "bitcoin" yielded nothing, but I didn't bother searching for "crypto" or other related terms.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/dux49ll/

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The main feature of crypto currencies is their anonymity. I don't think this is a good thing. The Governments ability to find money laundering and tax evasion and terrorist funding is a good thing. Right now crypto currencies are used for buying fentanyl and other drugs so it is a rare technology that has caused deaths in a fairly direct way. I think the speculative wave around ICOs and crypto currencies is super risky for those who go long.
Aahh... so THAT was the source. Thanks for straightening me out, BTCMILLIONAIRE.

(Super-OT - Fentanyl is indeed a serious issue. If they just didn't bunch lethal opioids with mostly harmless stuff when writing laws or answering AMAs... but sorry I digress.)



705. Post 31281649 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Torque on February 28, 2018, 04:48:28 PM
Mark my words, before too long banks will be offering to hold your bitcoin for you (securely of course) and transferring between fiat to btc, and back, with little to no fee as incentive.

I'll say it again. I would trust some of my btc to a traditional bank, as long as

- The deposit is backed by (audited) crypto or undilutable bank stock (ordinary bonds would be OK too)

- I get my interest (in btc). A reasonable 10% or something like that, depending on market conditions.

These banks will find out that luring old school hodlers to part temporarily with their precioussss takes more than a flashy brochure.



706. Post 31287352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 28, 2018, 07:41:32 PM
Spike in mem pool activity over the past 4 hours
Doesn't sound good.



707. Post 31305445 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 28, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
Mark my words, before too long banks will be offering to hold your bitcoin for you (securely of course) and transferring between fiat to btc, and back, with little to no fee as incentive.

I'll say it again. I would trust some of my btc to a traditional bank, as long as

- The deposit is backed by (audited) crypto or undilutable bank stock (ordinary bonds would be OK too)

- I get my interest (in btc). A reasonable 10% or something like that, depending on market conditions.

These banks will find out that luring old school hodlers to part temporarily with their precioussss takes more than a flashy brochure.
They can shove 10% up their ass. I'd rather support a public firm at those rates.
How would you support a public firm with your bitcoin?

10% sounds nice to me because at current prices, it allows a hodler to extract a decent living in decent places
on double digits deposits. Imagine someone well into triple digits opening such accounts on different banks. (Inb4 jews, usury, Rube Goldberg).

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 28, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
And any higher than that they can't guarantee anyways. I'd consider a bank safe with a hardware or paper wallet if it was insured for the fiat equivalent of the Bitcorns regardless of market situation, but I don't think there are any insurances that cover dynamic valuations without extracting insane fees that would render the whole deal uneconomical.
Not that I believe it's going to happen. But that's what I meant by "a fancy brochure" - that they can't offer anything like what I'm asking. The same I meant by "backed by crypto", and by "uninflatable bank stock" (does anything like uninflatable stocks exist at all? Let's ask Torque  Wink) - collateral they will lose if things go south.

Bitserve's sane, practical words raise similar issues.

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
They couldn't give any interest rate unless they were allowed to:

a) Running fractional reserve
This wouldn't be allowed since "backed by crypto" also implies "auditable by the end user". I'm thinking positions backed by individual public addresses or LN channels. Not going to happen, I agree.

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
b) Shorting the market (selling YOUR BTC)
And give me back 110% of it each year. At cheaper prices of course, but how would they manage a btc bank run? They'd need to buy back and the squishy-squeezy sounds would reach the moon a whole day before the corn.

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
There's absolutely no way I can think of... unless a market of fully insured Bitcoin lending would exist and offered better returns than those 10% they would give you... which it doesn't.
Indeed. But if it did, their profit over 10% would be justified by swallowing the counterparty risk for me.

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
You could be glad if they don't charge you a custody fee for holding your BTC.
Reality, again. Thanks for spoiling my dream.



708. Post 31305644 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: nanobtc on March 01, 2018, 03:13:28 AM
Cheers, Jimbo! I've played about 450 (4-hour) gigs in the last 6 years, in addition to the 40-50 hours a week slave labor. I dearly love it, but I'm hauling a rebuilt 1962  Leslie cab (internally miced, line out to the PA), assorted keyboards (occasionally a real Hammond)

Alone? You've got my respect.



709. Post 31307824 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: nanobtc on March 01, 2018, 05:03:51 AM
d_eddie: Solo gigs? No, these were full band gigs. Sometimes with too many guitar players.
Actually, I was thinking about moving around a Leslie and several keyboards - "occasionally a real Hammond." (!)  Cry



710. Post 31308036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: nanobtc on March 01, 2018, 05:12:06 AM
make the guitar guys all play small Class A amps. Point them at their ears

That serves them right with their "I can't hear myself!" mantra 3:-)



711. Post 31326598 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 01, 2018, 11:04:22 AM
reinforcements needed ... troops look unconvinced

If they're still wearing pants they're not fighting hard enough.
Everybody just stop mentioning the bloody PANTS, mkay?  Angry



712. Post 31329024 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: fortune143 on February 27, 2018, 09:50:00 AM

I am into trains, this is why I am here  Cheesy

Is it just me, or this guy has been de-panted too??  Shocked  Huh



713. Post 31363749 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 01, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
You guys are making me feel better about my...not...shredding ability.
I knew you played guitar as soon as I saw your defensive response "But sometimes it's hard to hear guitars over the drums!" (quoting from memory).  Tongue Tongue

Your shredding inability gives some hope to the fact you might still be a worthy human being after all.

 Wink



714. Post 31364277 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 01, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
wordy man can do the lyrics...

Best. Idea. Ever.



Helrow.

Does my avatar look lyricistical?   Roll Eyes
Not that much, but we were thinking of a LONG piece about ratts and laddered trades.



715. Post 31364645 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: ACVinegar on March 01, 2018, 03:41:09 AM
As I observed most of the participants of this thread are giving merits to everyone, hoping I get also but I want to have smerit from my posts that having  good quality, because I want to rank up too in the future.
Not to just "everyone", though.

Just to those posts that are informative or useful or funny or have some other virtue.

I know it's unpleasant being a new user. I think you can't post links or images - or maybe you have some other serious limitation.

Here is your first merit, as a wish for more to come. Just keep posting good stuff, and they will come.

Welcome!



716. Post 31369282 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 01, 2018, 09:40:42 PM
Music isn't a competition. It's all about cooperation.

Any real musician's ears are far more important than his hands.
This winter, every jam I've been to had me thinking exactly this.
Recently, I'm always feeling like I'm the only one who knows when to stay low or lay out completely (if applicable).
I wish I knew better jams around here. Maybe it's a seasonal thing.



717. Post 31375976 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Icygreen on March 02, 2018, 12:37:13 AM
A question running through my mind for the last few months:
For a society so used to a somewhat stable money value, what will be the effects of volatility in the masses?  What I mean is: Having something I believe is sovereign money, although volatile, continues to change my relationship to traditional paper money and bank digits (taking a back seat). When the masses come to accept this, I expect some drastic reality shift I can't quite imagine today.  Maybe it's not yet a question that can really be answered today. Maybe better,  How has your relationship to money changed since bitcoin?  Too serious?
  
My relationship with money has changed a lot. Almost every day, it occurs to me that so many worries and tears and toils are about - what - a btc cent? Ah, no, that's 1.5 cents. It doesn't change anything - all is relative, but in these occasions I feel like I'm living on another planet.

Perhaps more interestingly, now I see fiat money as funny color printed slips of paper that people give value to even if in some sense it isn't "real". It has no objectivity, for lack of a better word.

Or... no, wait a minute. We don't even get to see those slips of paper much anymore now, do we? More often that not, fiat money is a bunch of numbers in a giant database, much like bitcoin. Except, there are guys that have the master keys for some parts of this huge database, so they can edit, hack and play within a loose set of rules. No, I've got no such key unfortunately.

Also, bitcoin has taught me that my most precious resource is time. No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000. It's important to make each minute count.




718. Post 31376738 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 02, 2018, 01:46:21 AM
(snip)

So tell us darling - how do we know the bear market is over?

If we hit 20k it definitely is  Grin

Yeah that’s not particularly helpful for those who want to enter before then...

Can a series of movements be taken as a more reliable sign? As in "down to 9.8k-9.9k, up again to 12.2k and slowly climbing 100$ a day for a week"? Or some hydraulic quantitative measure (using Toxic's suggestive idea of pools that fill up)?

Maybe it's too simplistic to try and define a complex situation by a simple level to be reached, if the path is not also taken into account.



719. Post 31377193 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 02, 2018, 01:54:22 AM
No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000.

It's important to make each minute count.

I agree with the second part, not necessarily with the first.

there was no crypto before Satoshi
there was no www before early nineties
there was no PCs just 43 years ago

Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show) or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002). Can you transfer your mental state to a different substrate? A fascinating topic.
The topic is fascinating indeed. Some gentlemen in this forum are a valuable source of enriching reads, fiction or essay.

Not sure if the transfer of a human mental state to a different substrate is even possible in principle. I guess in principle it is, if we keep a reductionist stance. But apart from the feasibility during our own lifetime, which already seems dubious to put it mildly, I think we are far from understanding the relationship between such mental states and our conscience.

Is consciousness an emerging quality? Does it have to happen once a system reaches a certain threshold of complexity? How, where is it felt? Where is the qualitative content of "blue" when I perceive blue? The retina, the cones, the nerve, the visual cortex, the other thingamabob and... and what? WHO will feel MY feelings? Me or the other substrate? What, I am the other substrate? No, I am I! Or am I?

This gets so close to metaphysics that I feel inadequate. Assuming I'll be dead, say, 200 years from now seems more reasonable and useful as an assumption, even if it comes across as bearish.

I'm no bear
I swear
I just don't know how far I'll fare.

In utter confusion, I'll check out your reading suggestions at the very least. Thanks.



720. Post 31448448 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 02, 2018, 11:25:49 PM
The lastest from Masterluc:

Quote
Have thrown the schedule. I completely agree. Moreover, I have been talking about this since the fall: 20,000-consolidation-100,000

The truth here is to use the function y = √x instead of trend lines this is certainly know-how. Thanks, masturbate. But this is very correct, because it is this function that describes the emission of bitcoin.



What's even funner about this is it is him in agreement with "Parabolic Trav".

Russians have a great sense of irony and self relativating sarc.

What I see is a really fucking BIG ASS range between the UP possibility and the DOWN possibility, which makes almost NO short term price predicting going on in the chart because almost any short term price movement could show that the chart was right.   It is the nature of relying on some of this kind of charting for short term price movements - whether on the bull side or the bear side.

Well, masterluc was never one for short term predictions! He's praising the idea of square root curves rather than straight line segments for trendlines ("you gave me a hard-on," he says), and I think he's simply reasserting his own predictions from Autumn 2017 - and earlier: he added a few words "from May, even".

I find one of his recent posts has an interesting anti-altcoin twist.

Quote from: Masterluc
I heard a ringing, but where was it from? From the 13th minute.

I will not talk about politics and I advise you not to. Just dropped the link, and then the classic of the genre is the reasoning (at first glance) of an erudite person about the hype of Bitcoin.

A little less than all the speakers from the TV and YouTube talk about this now. And speculators in general poher, they do not argue at all, they trade three letters acronyms and beautiful logo, totally mindless of what is behind it. There's a full "pump" and "dump" in their heads, let them be rewarded and sit with their naked ass.

The author is right only in the area which he really understands: Bitcoin helps to adapt from the very top. Without this help, everything would be much more complicated, but nevertheless it would be.

Bitcoin differs significantly from Vasya's, Mavrod's and Vitalik Buterin's own currencies (God forgive me). Vasya, Sergey and Vitalik do whatever crosses their minds with their currencies, while Bitcoin works according to its specification (Whitepaper), published in 2009. You can read the specification, start using Bitcoin and expect that the currency will work according to the specification and fuck all. That's why Bitcoin is respected.

Further, it is quite clear who controls bitcoin: the consensus of the miners, but in connection with the recent events (UASF), do not underestimate the full nodes. And one more thing. Bitmain has more than half network capacity. But they, while having the opportunity, do not harm the network even in favor of their shitfork. But it is written in the Whitepaper! It turns out that bitcoin controls its own specification.

And it is quite clear who issues Bitcoins. It is not clear who is issuing XRP, ETH and other kinds of shit. Absolutely not clear. Here (translator note: in Bitcoin) it is.

Bitcoin can be hacked. To do this, you need to run half the hashrate. Now, this will require the work of an entire nuclear power plant. And this is not cheap. But having such power - it will be much, much more profitable to play with it according to the rules of the specification, rather than harm. This is what Bitmain is doing right now. That's why personally I do not think it's dumb to invest money in bitcoin. I know its degree of protection and I am calm.

Maybe I'll write more.



721. Post 31448770 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 02, 2018, 11:59:01 PM
Who are Vasya, Mavrod and Sergei?
Mavrod and Sergey might be one and the same - Sergey Mavrodi.
As for Vasya, it could be https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/profile/3836-vasya/ - who started a new blockchain, or ICO or something.  I basically have no clue.  Grin

EDIT - Last of the V8s beat me to it!



722. Post 31448939 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 03, 2018, 12:08:04 AM
Who are Vasya, Mavrod and Sergei?
slight glitch in translation. Sergei Mavrodi is one person, a nasty scammer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi
Vasya is too generic for me. Vasily someone. anyone?

https://vasya.net
Maybe?

Edit: I also basically have no clue
I think it's the same guy I pointed to. It must be him.



723. Post 31449222 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Tera, you sound like Rosewater at his finest.

Rosewater, you don't sound like yourself.



724. Post 31454266 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 02, 2018, 01:54:22 AM
Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show)
I realized I already had it. I got it a long time ago after reading good things about it on Reddit, but I never got around to actually read it. I think it'll be the next SF book I read.

Quote
or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002).
This might be a bit over the top for me. When plots in fiction get to the point of having so much cutting edge science as a founding element, I'd rather read an actual essay if I'm interested. With a work of fiction, you never know the boundary between genuine and made up unless you're familiar with the territory. I might give it a tentative skim.



725. Post 31570730 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 04, 2018, 04:26:59 PM
Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....


the STYLE is getting closer, but you need to flesh it out more and reiterate your points

Yeah, the substance (length) just isn't there yet.

And by the way - it may be obvious but - for authenticity, no copy and paste is allowed. You know, the human detail bit.



726. Post 31593808 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Hm, 12k look entirely possible within a few hours.



727. Post 31655372 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on March 05, 2018, 07:39:46 PM
Where is realroach? Did he died Roll Eyes
Crying wolf, are you?

Just wait for the next significant dip.



728. Post 31729708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

The next 72h are critical.



729. Post 31730083 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

I agree, but most of us were expecting a faster, harder correction once the price started circling 12k.



730. Post 32026699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

A few days off in times of volatility, and I find like 20 pages to keep up with? Please guys, let's be serious.

Awwright, gotta make up for it with a few replies. In view of WOTPC parity, you know. My 2 millibitcoins, sort of.



731. Post 32026723 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 10, 2018, 11:37:29 PM
Im probably leaving the market within a week in my final distribution. AMA

Will you still come and visit us here at the treadmill?

Contrarian, intelligent voices are badly needed here, lest it turns into an echo chamber.



732. Post 32026740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: bones261 on March 11, 2018, 12:20:18 AM
My remains will probably only be deemed fit for pet food.
Fish cat food. Yummy!
I liked your fishy avatars better. Much better.



733. Post 32026762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 11, 2018, 01:13:30 AM
Im probably leaving the market within a week in my final distribution. AMA
Is this humour?
if yes - haha
if no - why leave?
Its 10 time less profitable to trade in these kinds of conditions so its an optimal time to reduce the risk of holding funds on exchanges and take a break from the immense stress, risk, and sleep disruption of trading. Also I am now financially set for 2 decades and have chronic illness. If I decide to go after money again and may be via a business or software project like making a new coin or an exchange and possibly not via trading.

10 times less profitable than what?

Bad to hear about your health. Take good care. Being financially set might help in getting the best there is.



734. Post 32026834 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 10, 2018, 09:29:46 PM
And I recall it's flipped on occasion and we got nothing but weekend pumps for weeks on end in the past as well.
Yes. It was the rule during the 10k-18+k phase.



735. Post 32027046 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Deeyoh on March 11, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
Really strange.. Looks like the big whale dumper bots broke or something.   Sell order books on bitfinex and coinbase are so light.
Hour of the wolf? Dumpy man sleep sleep?

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2018, 01:45:17 AM
Everything will go green in another 6 hours and the mood will swing again.

Not so sure. Early morning Monday maybe (Tokyo Time)?



736. Post 32027776 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: bluebits on March 11, 2018, 01:54:56 AM
Im probably leaving the market within a week in my final distribution. AMA

Exchange risk was always rightly a huge factor in evaluating the return on trading the during the 11 and 13 cycles. How much risk are you assigning to Gemini, Coinbase, Kraken type of exchanges now?

A crash to 5k seems like the most certain trade you are advocating right now. Since you will have money tied up on exchanges anyway why not short on Kraken?

Your bitphysics model predicts the price will mimic 2014, like a bouncing ball? It so this next bounce would be like the current glade, with a high volume spike somewhere around <5k showing the reversal, a failed climb back to 10k, and then final bleed out to 3k (ideally)?

Do you expect your trading strategy (buying volume breakouts from dips) to continue working if another cycle appears in 202x?

What % of traders have the ability to derive alpha from first principles in crypto? How does this compare to stocks?

Is your ideal play for the next 3 years to find promising blocktree (radix?) projects and load in during strong overall crypto cynicism?

What signals will give clues about whether another BTC cycle in line with the past is starting vs BTC being finished and any pumps being limited?


Good questions. I would ask a few of them myself. A few, mind you. She said ask me anything, but you asked her everything Tongue



737. Post 32027838 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: rafanadal on March 11, 2018, 02:12:02 AM
(((Putin))) wants to enslave eastern Europe, under a neosoviet system, it has been his dream from the begining.

Eastern Europe still remembers too well. Ready to fall over to Uncle Sam if overdone. So does Finland.



738. Post 32028334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

A few older totally OT odds and ends. Part 1.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 09, 2018, 04:33:14 PM
It’s one of the things that living in the UK is shit for, not being able to carry a gun. WHEN bitcoin moon’s I’m moving to the US & will amass a huge Arsenal of weapons for shit’s & gigs.

I think you'd have to get citizenship then. Foreigners aren't allowed to do as they please with weapons.



739. Post 32028372 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

A few older totally OT odds and ends. Part 2.

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 10, 2018, 08:01:25 PM
Kobayashi hit the Asahi dry followed with saki and fine scotch late into Saturday night ...now he has woken up like a bear with a sore head.

Bitcoin is going to get smacked around like a geisha
If Kobayashi-san wants to smack someone around, he'd better find a proper hooker and leave geishas alone. They're not for smacking around, unless they are in the mood.



740. Post 32028623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

A few older totally OT odds and ends. Part 3.

Quote from: sirazimuth on March 09, 2018, 04:37:38 PM
...going shooting ...

Give Ted Nugent a buzz. You two would make great buddies...

Ted "What did you just say? Let me read your lips" Nugent?
Loud guitars and all. Poor lad.



741. Post 32029105 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 11, 2018, 02:58:14 AM
A few older totally OT odds and ends. Part 1.

It’s one of the things that living in the UK is shit for, not being able to carry a gun. WHEN bitcoin moon’s I’m moving to the US & will amass a huge Arsenal of weapons for shit’s & gigs.

I think you'd have to get citizenship then. Foreigners aren't allowed to do as they please with weapons.


Not even open carry states?  I've wondered about that, but never checked.  A friend of mine always suggests I take one of his when I'm there, but not worth the hassle unless I dig into the legalities...

Presumably if you turn up at the gun office already packing heat and fire repeatedly at anyone who moves you get your licence for the display of initiative and enthusiasm.
Literally laughing out loud in front of the screen. You made my day. Would merit this if you weren't a legend already!

Here's a WoSMerit - the only one I have.



742. Post 32029668 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: bones261 on March 11, 2018, 03:17:03 AM

Presumably if you turn up at the gun office already packing heat and fire repeatedly at anyone who moves you get your licence for the display of initiative and enthusiasm.
Literally laughing out loud in front of the screen. You made my day. Would merit this if you weren't a legend already!

Here's a WoSMerit - the only one I have.

Although Legendary accounts don't need merits to rank up, they still need 2 merits to earn an smerit. I'm sure many Legendaries have already run out of smerits to give out, and would like some love so they can pay it forward.  Smiley

Ooops, that's right. Good of you to remind me. Not every legend is a merit source.



743. Post 32082694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

It's moving... it's moving...



744. Post 32083204 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Squishy sounds from not so far away  Grin



745. Post 32084956 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on March 11, 2018, 06:08:07 PM
Maybe you handled it better because you were hodling rather than day trading like TERA. He got serious brain/nerve damage from it.

...
Oh yes this is me. I have serious brain/nerve damage from the sequelea of consequences of bitcoin trading and would return every satoshi for my old life back. I also lost a job and spent half of my profits supporting myself for a long time until I found my next job.

This should show some sense to those envious guys who say "you just got free money with this bitcoin thing".
Very few things in life are "free".



746. Post 32128978 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

MarketWatch hates bitcoin. Three articles today.

A trusted digital currency is coming, but it’s not bitcoin, says Starbucks’ Howard Schultz - by Victor Rektlaitis
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-trusted-digital-currency-is-coming-but-its-not-bitcoin-says-starbucks-howard-schultz-2018-01-29
TL;DR - Bitcoin is no good, you need trusted crypto. Brick and mortar firms (we!) can do that.

Bitcoin rises modestly after recent slump - by Victor Reklaitis
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-rises-modestly-after-recent-slump-2018-03-12
TL;DR - I'm the same guy. China blah blah.

Opinion: Bitcoin investors have reason to worry - by Peter Morici
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-investors-have-reason-to-worry-2018-03-12
TL;DR - Shell wampum blah drugs blah North Korea blah crackdown blah

The last is the worst of the bunch.



747. Post 32130244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 12, 2018, 10:50:53 AM
Cloud mining contracts are a security

https://bitsonline.com/genesis-mining-securities/
Well IANAL, but the fact that a contract is a scam doesn't mean it can't be a security. Or does it?



748. Post 32131383 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 12, 2018, 10:57:52 AM
Cloud mining contracts are a security

https://bitsonline.com/genesis-mining-securities/
Well IANAL, but the fact that a contract is a scam doesn't mean it can't be a security. Or does it?

Care to expand?  I have no interest in cloud mining contracts so haven’t followed this one. 
Well I haven't followed this one either, so I was just assuming.

All the cloud mining contracts I've checked out are losing deals, in the sense that you get less than you would by just buying bitcoin. And then the contract expires (while bitcoin doesn't). Maybe naming this particular contract a scam was a bit far fetched, but I wouldn't sign into it.



749. Post 32135857 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 12, 2018, 11:46:21 AM
You can brute force Powerball with a pen and paper.  That’s what the population is doing every week.
But there is a high cost for each guess.
And the reward distribution system is a mess, they tell me.



750. Post 32147442 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Oh Corny, my swingin' lady.



751. Post 32153359 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Pretty normal volume on this shakeout, what do the professional watchers say?



752. Post 32163881 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Long battle at 9.2k, but with decreasing volume.

EDIT - Actually, for now it's more like a skirmish.



753. Post 32180362 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 12, 2018, 11:06:23 PM
I was thinking in the specific sense of having to pay a fee in Bitcoin. Possibly as a substitute for POW.  I have not given it any real thought and it’s possibly full of holes, such as Sybil attacks.
Sybils willing to pay in bitcoin are OK, depending on the price:

Code:

(price < reward) ? NO_WAY                                                       # cheapskate!
(reward < price < reward + fees) ? likely_ok(reward, fees, shillprice) # fees almost free for everyone, I'm a shill!
(reward < reward + fees < price) ? likely_ok(reward, fees, shillprice) # a lottery? negative fees?


A funky alt, possibly.
Might have an actual use case, even if right now I couldn't figure one for the life of me.
Democratizing down the price of on-chain fees once rewards are hardly relevant?
Such a funkcoin might as well exist already, for all I know.



754. Post 32181276 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

I'll try to consider both UP or DOWN from the viewpoint of someone who got something at stake.

Quote from: bluebits on March 13, 2018, 12:52:15 AM
'Standard View'

BTC ran up 10,000%, a massive multi-year correction is then absolutely necessary. Given the increase in infrastructure and adoption the most likely effect is a shallower, longer winter. (The more something represents the entire system the slower it moves, economies move in decades long cycles, BTC could have month long cycles starting out. Lows around -75-80% off the ATH.


'Miracle 2013 style double top'

We ran out of new suckers, that is why the price stopped going up. Double top would need:

-New even larger wave of speculators. Coinbase was the #1 app, on TV every night, major exchanges in all countries with rich speculators. The next level up requires infrastructure that is years away at best
-Belief that 100k is possible. No one will pay 20 unless they think someone will pay 40, 40 buyer needs to believe in 80 buyer coming etc. A drop to 6k erodes this
-All the stuck bagholders have to get even or accept their losses, this places a huge ask capping any rallies

I'm bullish at heart too, and this is standard view indeed. The folloiwing is also reassuring.

Quote from: Anon136 on March 13, 2018, 01:02:22 AM
Honestly. I know this sounds stupid but intuition. I have been staring at bitcoin charts for 8 years now. It made a very solid looking bottom with very reasonable growth coming out of that bottom, a healthy and calm retracement down to about half of that run up then further upside that broke out past the last high. It's just what bitcoin charts have looked like to me when the bottom was in in the past. It looked like textbook - people are done freaking out so therefore we can resume the more general trend that us up. And ultimately I am a bull long term. So when ever people stop freaking out and cool their heads after a mania bitcoin tends to resume the general multi year bull trend.

I hope that made some sort of sense.

But if it is true that a small minority can control the price by acting in a select mix of exchanges, we should try to figure out longer-term dynamics. The ever-hungry badger is a thing for fairy tales. He needs to rest, to digest, to heal, to reproduce - he can't eat all the time.

If a whole school of sharks wants to give another serious shake on the way up, I bet they can. I'd bet small, just as a hedge. That would make for a handsome premium to pay, but a black swan (or possibly just a gray one) could become a life-changing event. "No way I can really retire until the Foundation is set up" kind of life-changing.

Enriching thoughts? Bears, bulls, ratts, primates (including humans).
Bugs needn't bother, since we already know their opinion on the matter.



755. Post 32182201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 12, 2018, 08:32:03 PM
What is happening in this thread now, I'm confused.

Same 'ol same 'ol in this thread. Bitcoin however is looking like some market movers want your cheap coins again. As was said..looks to be heading south.


This was what was going on until this morning..pattern look familiar?

Indeed. I see a stream of 2-day mammoths looking forward (the final dip is the trunk). Don't know what it's called in astr... uh, in TA. Two mammoths are fairly easy to see in Toxic2040's chart.
By changing the time scale you can see more.

15 minutes - lots of noise on the way down, 2 mammoths easy to spot as in Toxic's post.


30 minutes - the descent can be split in two blobs with a dip in between (think trunk).


1 hour


2 hours - 2 mammoths climbing. The first has its trunk... hm, erected, so to say, pointing forward. Two descending ones can still be spotted before them.


The best visual alignment for me is on the 1 hour chart.

Quote
There appeared to be some observer affect though as now it has gone another way. I am not feeling very confident about the price right now and I am sure that is exactly what is wanted...with that in mind I will wait until friday to see which way the market is going.
That would be 2 more elephants, hairy or maybe smooth - and of course deformed along an underlying Platonic curve that we'd all like to know.

EDIT: If I were a whale hitting on paranoid traders who think they're smart, I'd smash it down hard after a longish trunk in a half-descending mammoth. Say, on Friday around 13:00-15:00 UTC. That's trunk time. Not necessarily this week. Next week the trunks would be on Tue-Thu-Sat though. But the mammoths have a kind of bend in their back, like stretching cats. The loin point might be as good. Friday next week a convenient loin could happen at 02:00.



756. Post 32183828 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2018, 02:29:36 AM
for fuck's sake

now you have me actually seeing mammoths in the chart
What's even more fun is fractal beasties.

6 hours. Total time interval just under 1 month. We know the two small critters at the end, they're likely the tail of the next Cthulhu pangolin (the dominant animal at this scale).


As good as any TA, I promise.



757. Post 32184514 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Anon136 on March 13, 2018, 03:01:55 AM
The main reason I'm bearish is because I was the most bullish I have ever been on bitcoin in my life just a few days ago and this decline took me more off guard than any thing else ever has in this market. I have never been that wrong before. I was so wrong that I actually gave the normies that asked me for advice the wrong advice for the first time ever. So I adapted. I took some of my crypto portfolio into USD and but put in a stop to prevent me from being punished too hard.

How about an insurance? A leveraged short as a hedge, built gradually and pre-calculated to liquidate at an arbitrary level of your choice. Say, 21k. Or 30k. The higher the cutoff level, the costlier the hedge of course, to guarantee similar performance at 5k. Or 3k. 1k?




758. Post 32229338 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 13, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
Well sheeeit!!1
Bitcoin up like $50 and my whole portfolio shifted by $140 million.
Gonna hafta bend over for the IRS agin!!1 Send 'em a coupla mil extra as lube.
Already on my 8th beer and that hoss is looking mighty fine about now.
I tellya, them Russkis showed up here with their neurotoxic whatnots, this proud American'd show'em the true meaning of concealed carry.
Pussy-assed Brits. Waddaya gone do?
Sheeeit!
Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.
Clap clap, nicely done  Cheesy



759. Post 32233499 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Denker on March 13, 2018, 04:34:12 PM
If you check the daily chart and switch on 200 ema/sma you'll see this is the spot bulls and bears are fighting hard for right now.
Very important level where we are located at the moment. Who ever wins this will decide where we are heading to the next couple of weeks.

Indeed the skirmish is turning into a long, soft battle fought on medium volume. The battleground hasn't moved at all, 9200-ish excluding 24h-48h fluctuations - that's "mammoths" in DETASO (d_eddie technical analysis, sort of).



760. Post 32234782 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

The situation is liquid IMHO. I smell longer plays developing. I mean medium term, not "the future of bitcoin." At the moment, I feel I can expect to have no clue where the ball is until the end of March, with an important checkpoint tomorrow.

The best I can think now is HODL.

Second best, hedge with a safety net bet. Similar to a safety play in bridge, giving up some of the best case gains to achieve mitigation (or reversal!) of the worst case. It will be a loss, except if an unexpected black swan disaster comes around. Then it will be a big winning asset.

The bet would be a small but significant short position, with as high as possible an entry point. Looks like a contrarian move à la Tera-Beara, but actually if not done near the external stratosphere, in Carolina's orbit, it makes little sense (and possibly big damage). Hold the short to < 7k, maybe even 5.5k-6k. Don't close it too soon. If it turns into a losing nightmare, keep swallowing until it reaches a pre-set limit. Decide how much pain you're willing to swallow. Work out the limit now, before Carolina, unless you know you can keep a cool mind.

(I feel like mastereddie! Sorry for raving.)

EDIT -Some of you expert line-drawing types can suggest an appropriately high entry? 11.5k maybe?



761. Post 32235257 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 13, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Is everyone as drunk as me?

Still sober. My brain is running wild though. I've got a serious bitcoin itch today.



762. Post 32254792 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 13, 2018, 10:29:42 PM
Close up as we get ready to close the candle for the day.



And maybe a longer than daily cycle too.

I see one regular/two timestretched, bitcrushed mammothlets smoldering into chaos. A new cycle begins?

If so, all I've dreamed about steady Fridays, Saturdays and explicit time ranges was, well, a dream.




763. Post 32256442 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 13, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Nice to see Trump fires Tillerson a day later for saying the Russians were responsible for the UK nerve gas attack.  Putin must be feeling a bit touchy about the whole thing.

And here I was thinking Tillerson was a Putin loyalist.  

The Don is not that good at dealing with subordinates who aren't property, so he occasionally misjudges a folk.



764. Post 32260317 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

I smell calm before the storm. Starting to nurse my safety short by patient scalping. I hope it gets rekt in the bud.

Rational explanation? None. But the mammoth thingy got to me, I sense them call a round of higher entropy.



765. Post 32261481 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on March 14, 2018, 02:53:49 AM
We're due for another smack down any time here.
Maybe
https://imgur.com/a/12swo
4hr sees:
2 yellow (lower) highs
4 red  (higher) lows
3 9480 attempts (maybe soon to be retested)

The last attempt has a different convexity. While smoldering, the foremost of the row arches his trunk and calls.
Is the global formation after the descent a proper triangle?

By the way, this looks like a 2hr chart. At 4hr, the pachyderms are featureless blobs.



766. Post 32324364 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 11:14:34 AM
the WO thread is the one and only. every idiot can open a new thread these days. all other threads are altcoins/ICO´s. I just hope they will not fork it (with bigger letters) and insist that the forked WO is the "real WO" thread.

Thanks to infofront for taking it over - including responsibilities and having a moderation vision that seems to have allowed for it's continued quasi-wild, wild west style, and thanks to theymos in allowing a kind of democratic transfer of ownership that seems to have been a very fucking BIG success to the forum and for the bitcoin community.

Out of the real thing, sorry. I was keeping the last few precious like Ebenezer.

I've got a cool new alt, though.

+1 WoSMerit to JJG, wordy man in nonwordy disguise. You're much more effective and - I'll dare unusual adjectives - enjoyable to read when you dress up this way. Try it more often, if you manage. Please.  Tongue

+1 WoSMerit to infofront, for the thanklessest job there is. And done brilliantly, as if from far away.



767. Post 32324574 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
Surely this Jacques_Bittard troll shit shill job would have been with Tera beara calling the end of bitcoin (and further and more painful price corrections) during the March 2017 down to $890 - and that surely would not have been a good time to sell any decent amount of your bitcoins.

I wouldn't put the two of them in the same league. I see different levels of intellectual integrity at a bear minimum. Ooops, a BARE minimum, ehm.



768. Post 32334797 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 09:01:06 PM
+1 WoSMerit to JJG, wordy man in nonwordy disguise. You're much more effective and - I'll dare unusual adjectives - enjoyable to read when you dress up this way. Try it more often, if you manage. Please.  Tongue


Here's how I feel:



Not that I had any real hope, deep inside. But I had to try, you see.
 Roll Eyes



769. Post 32334811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 14, 2018, 09:32:39 PM
By the way..all WOsM's are strictly one to one. So you get one..you can give one.
Hey no way, scammer man!  Angry
The WOsM brochure boasted about 100x leverage...



770. Post 32335076 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
Bob,   I'm ready for that drink. Single malt kinda guy. A shot of Dalmore is high on the bucket list or a older Balvenie might be just as nice. I'll do my best not to get any bitcoiner tears in it.
32D6TKWE5LEgNk6u92bEm1GNAzmnheXbCt

Sheeit  Embarrassed

Ok. PM me your meatspace address. Do you want to supply the blindfold, or should I ?
Naughty. Play fair!



771. Post 32335187 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

The mammoths told me a story all day yesterday.
They were changing their stride, their shape, their voice.
They called, they screamed.
There was nowhere to run.
I got my short started.
It helped.
But I couldn't hodl it all the way down.
Now I'm trying to rebuild it higher.
Little by little.

Talking openly about the mammoths started it all.
That's asking for it, isn't it?

Now I know this thread is being monitored by nasty whales.



772. Post 32335332 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 15, 2018, 01:40:44 AM
Bob,   I'm ready for that drink. Single malt kinda guy. A shot of Dalmore is high on the bucket list or a older Balvenie might be just as nice. I'll do my best not to get any bitcoiner tears in it.
32D6TKWE5LEgNk6u92bEm1GNAzmnheXbCt

Sheeit  Embarrassed

Ok. PM me your meatspace address. Do you want to supply the blindfold, or should I ?

Hey!!!!!!! 


We are not all getting drinks?



I'll have it without a blindfold, please.

Oh and by the way, hail to the legend!



773. Post 32401061 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

I scalped my way to a comfortably high entry short again.
Come 6k, make me some money. Come 16k, the insurance fee is already written off as a loss.
I will keep nursing it higher (and possibly still a bit smaller).
My play money grew approximately 20% in the process.

For me at least, it's a tough job. I couldn't do this everyday if my life depended on it.
I'm glad I listened to the furry elephants.



774. Post 32402037 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 15, 2018, 09:18:35 PM
I scalped my way to a comfortably high entry short again.
Come 6k, make me some money. Come 16k, the insurance fee is already written off as a loss.
I will keep nursing it higher (and possibly still a bit smaller).
My play money grew approximately 20% in the process.

For me at least, it's a tough job. I couldn't do this everyday if my life depended on it.
I'm glad I listened to the furry elephants.


Margin trading? How much leverage?
Variable, approx range 0.5-5.
I prefer < 1 myself. For dummies.



775. Post 32402720 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 15, 2018, 09:27:03 PM
I scalped my way to a comfortably high entry short again.
Come 6k, make me some money. Come 16k, the insurance fee is already written off as a loss.
I will keep nursing it higher (and possibly still a bit smaller).
My play money grew approximately 20% in the process.

For me at least, it's a tough job. I couldn't do this everyday if my life depended on it.
I'm glad I listened to the furry elephants.


Margin trading? How much leverage?

Either d_eddie is referring to margin, or alternatively, he is saying that he sold a certain decent-sized chuck of his BTC upon this recent price rise (which overall is selling on the way down.. but that is o.k. if it makes you more comfortable) in order to increase his available cash by 20% in order to prepare and insure himself for the possibility of additional down (although I find the characterization of insuring for up to be a bit confusing).
I am actually applying the 2J-ladder to a short, that is, I'm selling before I buy.

The 2J in the name is meant to credit the two distinguished gentlemen who recently discussed its details.  Wink

The short isn't insured for up: it is actually an insurance for the rest of my btc in the case of downie-down. The "insurance fee" I mentioned is the price of blowing my short at the top (while selling off some actual coin on the way up, of course).

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Edit:  Fuck... this just ain't my day... d_eddie beat me too it and pretty much blew my whole speculation thesis out of the water by admitting that he is employing margin trading.

Sorry for both things.

- Didn't mean to beat you to it, but you know, I can be quicker because I type less (on the average)  Tongue

- I am a newbie trader, and I usually don't trade - but this time it's different, the line of mammoths spoke to me in their chilling calling sounds. They smelled a black swan. I got scared.



776. Post 32402892 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: bitChipper on March 15, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Why do you call this scalping, are you taking a bunch of different positions at the same time on margin?
It's just one position, kept short at a semi-consistent size, with slowly growing value (entry point).

I am progressively making the position smaller by buying a tiny bit at a lower price, or making it larger by selling (shorting) a little bit at a higher price. Riding the waves trying to put a handful of froth in my pocket, so to say.

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To me the term scalping means buying selling for really small gains like 1-5%....i could be wrong though

My understanding of the term is the same as yours. I think it fits what I'm doing.



777. Post 32404355 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 15, 2018, 10:10:42 PM
I scalped my way to a comfortably high entry short again.
Come 6k, make me some money. Come 16k, the insurance fee is already written off as a loss.
I will keep nursing it higher (and possibly still a bit smaller).
My play money grew approximately 20% in the process.

For me at least, it's a tough job. I couldn't do this everyday if my life depended on it.
I'm glad I listened to the furry elephants.


Margin trading? How much leverage?
Variable, approx range 0.5-5.
I prefer < 1 myself. For dummies.

It's reasonable. Just remember to have ample collateral to cushion any extraordinary spikes that might happen. One split second under your liquidation margin and... it's gone. I learned that lesson a couple years ago when Bitfinex fucked the market. It was my fault though as an inexperienced margin trader. It took me one full year to recover that loss and, when I did, I stopped using leveraging for ever.
Good of you to warn me, thanks.
I haven't received a real costly lesson yet, but I've heard a lot. So I'm treading very carefully.



778. Post 32407025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: mfort312 on March 15, 2018, 10:41:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q

For every turd of FUD out there, there's some unicorn sherbet just waiting to be dispensed...

(snip)

WoSmerit is all I can dispense at the moment.

+1 WoSmerit

Man, your posts are tasty!




779. Post 32407525 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: explorer on March 15, 2018, 11:21:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q

For every turd of FUD out there, there's some unicorn sherbet just waiting to be dispensed...

(snip)

WoSmerit is all I can dispense at the moment.

+1 WoSmerit

Man, your posts are tasty!



Can't B'awb help you with that?  not sure how that works.
More help than I expected, but help he did!



780. Post 32407626 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
Can't B'awb help you with that?  not sure how that works.

OK. I Merited the OP with 2 points. One from me and one for d_eddie, and just shot d_eddie 4 Merits for... reasons.

We all cool now ?

Am I a fair and benevolent Merit Source ?

Thanks! the OP really gives us some fine reading IMO.

Dispensing merits in a benevolent way is of course extra cool...

... but my favorite bits from you are when you cook up unheard ways to say things that get said too plainly, way too many times.



781. Post 32409883 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

8000 is knocking again.

Very quick movement. Is that a largish market sell?



782. Post 32411273 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

8k broken.



783. Post 32411298 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: infofront on March 16, 2018, 01:49:21 AM
I have merit available to give. Does that make me a merit source?

Merit sources are picked by Theymos. They get a monthly sMerit allowance from the house, so they can give it out without being merited by other participants.



784. Post 32411829 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 16, 2018, 02:02:22 AM
If you are a merit source, then your merit page will come up like the below purple highlighted two paragraphs (though not really purple in real life) - noteably the difference in the second paragraph for merit sources:

>>>>>>>>You have received a total of XXXX merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have XXX sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.

You are a merit source. The next XXX merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.
<<<<<<<<<<<<

As you may recall, the merit system activated on January 24, and therefore it was thought that if merit sources spent their smerits, then those smerits would start to replenish into the merit source on about February 23 - however, theymos stated that he had run into some glitch in the way that he had programmed the replenishment of merit source merits - in essence the script or the algorithm was screwed up.  

It appears that theymos fixed that merit source replenishment glitch on about March 5, and replenishment of merit source smerits began again around March 5.

I didn't know about the glitch or any details of merit expiry, interesting stuff.

+1 WOsMerit

(I do have sMerit to give now, but you're a legend and a source, so it really feels like wasting the goods.)



785. Post 32411924 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: infofront on March 16, 2018, 02:06:08 AM
This is an interesting place. When things are doing good we all share and enjoy the same feeling of success and richness (even if in different levels) and the opposite (like right now) also holds true.  Quite different than IRL friends, most of them being complete nocoiners. #justarandomthought

We should have a WO meetup some time. Maybe we can have an IRL celebration when BTC hits $100K haha.

That would be really nice! I'm imagining some exclusive place with ample parking space for lambos and stuff.
Sign me up.



786. Post 32481662 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 15, 2018, 10:47:27 PM

I admit that it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to attempt to find your comfort zone, and even to experience levels of temptation emotion to deviate.  Furthermore, the market can play out in ways that are a bit beyond expectations and new preparations need to take place to ensure that you remain prepared for either price direction.  

In the last month, I made a couple decently-sized tweaks, and I designed each of my tweaks in order to feel more comfortable for either direction rather than attempting to increase my profits.  And, in November/December, I had to make a couple of decently-sized tweaks, too, because the price was performing more bullishly than anticipated.

That's it. It's about being comfortable. As in almost any tight game, upping the worst case outcome requires worsening the best case. And that's what I'm doing right now.

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At some point in the near future, we are going to have to refer to the d_eddie ladder-scalping method... a form of tailoring, tweaking and adjusting particular to bitcoinlandia...   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hehe, it would be nice, wouldn't it? However, I'm too much of a newbie at trading - and what's more, I'm kind of ignoring on purpose the intricacies of proper TA. That's why, if I came up with something like this, it must be already a well-known technique, and I'm quite confident it already has a name. If I knew its name, I could look it up and learn about possible pitfalls.



787. Post 32481778 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 16, 2018, 10:37:05 PM

-tera bera

Duration:

Glade - 6 weeks
Glide -  6 months

Beginning:

Glade - 3 year record breaking volume after 70% decline
Glide  - ? Another volume bounce indicator somewhere around 5.5k ?

End

Glade - Attempts to bust past a 100% increase or reach any level that will credibly start a new bull run fizzle out (failing at 11.8 twice, then at 10 on the way down sealed it as over)
Glide -  ? Same as above, trying to get past 10k fails ?
I'm not particularly committed to the price path I drew. I just like the log channel and wanted to illustrate how wrong the original author could be.

A voice of reason. There are a quite a number of projection charts that can be drawn from the same data. Extrapolation is never uniquely determined. I have no idea how much the different charts can differ qualitatively, but quantitatively there is quite a bit of possible variation, as you showed.

Another option would be sqrt(x) rather than log channel, à la masterluc's friend.



788. Post 32482881 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2018, 08:10:01 PM
So we going to get one of those weekend pumps instead of dump?

Exactly my hunch. I got it while following the price more closely than usual, scalping my short up. I'm gonna have a hard weekend for sure :-)

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Edit:  Genesis Capital has lent over $100 million in crypto to bears.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/a-bitcoin-trading-firm-just-opened-up-a-lending-business-and-its-going-gangbusters-2018-3?__twitter_impression=true

This sounds like bullshit. It can't be true. Such a business model leaks too much profit if the underlying cryptocurrency appreciates.



789. Post 32483861 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

A 200-250$ dip down, almost instant. We won't see BMB/Rosewater for some time, I'm afraid.



790. Post 32485667 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 16, 2018, 11:41:14 PM
Hehe, it would be nice, wouldn't it? However, I'm too much of a newbie at trading - and what's more, I'm kind of ignoring on purpose the intricacies of proper TA. That's why, if I came up with something like this, it must be already a well-known technique, and I'm quite confident it already has a name. If I knew its name, I could look it up and learn about possible pitfalls.
Could you recap what you're up to?

I used the last dip to lighten my safety short and profit a bit. The dip was welcome, because my short entry point was drifting towards unprofitability as the price raised.

Now I'm waiting to rebuild the missing part a bit at a time, scalping the small waves as we get back to where we were, around 8.5-8.6k. When will it be? I don't know, of course. That's the unnerving nursing/babysitting part.

My ultimate goal is having a short that tracks the current price, ideally an inch higher up from it (wishful thinking, and impossible on maxima. I know).

When I'm set or near-set, let them moon it - I'll drop it when the pain exceeds my threshold. Let them swamp it - I'll get richer than I would have been without my safety short.



791. Post 32485728 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2018, 11:55:12 PM
So we going to get one of those weekend pumps instead of dump?

Exactly my hunch. I got it while following the price more closely than usual, scalping my short up. I'm gonna have a hard weekend for sure :-)

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This sounds like bullshit. It can't be true. Such a business model leaks too much profit if the underlying cryptocurrency appreciates.

I assume both principal and interest is payable in BTC.
The way I read it, the loan is denominated in USD. If so, it's impossible to claim the same BTC amount. Or did I get it wrong? I'm stressed out by my safe trading binge.



792. Post 32486107 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Woops, can't even read anymore. Thanks for setting me straight.



793. Post 32486127 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: rafanadal on March 17, 2018, 01:31:46 AM
+500 dollars erased in matter of minutes

That's when a short on the side turns into a valuable asset.



794. Post 32486506 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 16, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
Now I feel as though there will be IRS agents infiltrating our party.  I suggest we have to sign a message with our posted addresses to gain entry.  Maybe r0ach can guard the door to keep the riff raff out Grin

And worse than the IRS, possibly. It will be a meetup of very rich peeps, remember: one million dollars will be just 10 BTC.

I think the details (place, time, reservations) should only be discussed in a private board. Invitation-only private. And yes, it would be appropriate to have some state of the art crypto verification at the door - like signing a message with the right key. No joke.




795. Post 32489032 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 17, 2018, 03:04:42 AM
This sounds lovely but I am deeply suspicious.  

https://blog.genesis.vision/genesis-markets-announcement-f520ea832168

Quote from: Genesis Markets
the Alpha version of the platform is launching on April 1st.

Funny birthday.



796. Post 32511647 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 17, 2018, 03:55:28 AM
Someone just bought 1 million USD worth of BTC. And another guy sold half million USD worth of BTC. Insane.

Edit: For anyone who wasn't following the live feed: someone bought ~4K BTC at market price and then left a 3.7k bid wall at 130. Then a minute later someone just swallowed that wall in one take

Ban? (Copy pasted post from 2013)

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Someone just bought 1 million USD worth of BTC. And another guy sold half million USD worth of BTC. Insane.

Edit: For anyone who wasn't following the live feed: someone bought ~4K BTC at market price and then left a 3.7k bid wall at 130. Then a minute later someone just swallowed that wall in one take.

STUPID me. I thought I was meriting a newbie for diligent wall observing. The numbers didn't add up, and I thought 130 was actually 8130 (which would have been spot on). I'm embarrassed. I can't demerit the newbie, but I can merit the patrol.



797. Post 32519779 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on March 17, 2018, 01:05:51 PM
IF you are going short now it's because YOUR DICK IS SMALL.  Cheesy
My dick was small at 8400, yesterday.

It has been shrinking and growing, shrinking and growing since.

I hope it becomes a baby squid soonish.



798. Post 32520156 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 17, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Weekend dump as per usual then !!!!

So it seems. My hunch was off. Again.
But this time the dump's starting from a lower point.
Who knows where it's headed to.
Low 7k's?
HODL.



799. Post 32526711 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 17, 2018, 01:25:42 AM
I used the last dip to lighten my safety short and profit a bit. The dip was welcome, because my short entry point was drifting towards unprofitability as the price raised.

Now I'm waiting to rebuild the missing part a bit at a time, scalping the small waves as we get back to where we were, around 8.5-8.6k. When will it be? I don't know, of course. That's the unnerving nursing/babysitting part.

My ultimate goal is having a short that tracks the current price, ideally an inch higher up from it (wishful thinking, and impossible on maxima. I know).

When I'm set or near-set, let them moon it - I'll drop it when the pain exceeds my threshold. Let them swamp it - I'll get richer than I were without my safety short.

Certainly, one thing that you are attempting that is quite different from me (and jbreher I believe - and quite a few quys and perhaps gal are leery of such) is that you are incorporating margin dynamics into your plays that make them more complicated.  Therefore, if you are able to describe systematic ways to employ margin, then you will be able to contribute to the space in your own unique ways.  

By the way, I have concluded that in bitcoin it can be very very very profitable merely playing with strategies that involve straight trading and no margins, so therefore margin trading is not necessary in order to get very rich from bitcoin.  It would take quite a bit to convince me to employ margin trading or that I would acknowledge that such is necessary - however, if you are able to present clear and simple techniques that are easily understandable, then I for one might be willing to attempt your strategy, if it makes sense to me and seems that there is a way that I can use it to make myself feel more comfortable (rather than less comfortable because of such employment of it).
Margin trading and derivatives are double-edged swords. They can be used to get rekt, much too easily.

However, the original function of futures was that of guaranteeing certainty of price to sellers or buyers of the underlying commodity (e.g., wheat).

When used in moderation, with ample safety bands on either side, these instruments can be useful to hedge against unfavorable conditions - that's what I'm trying to do here. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.

By having my safety short on leveraged margin, I am risking just a small fraction of my stash (that is, part of my play money) to get insurance against a price drop. E.g., to short 1 btc, you can spend as little as 0.1 btc (on 10x leverage). Of course, any price movement gets amplified 10x, so careful! Safety bands around your position!

Now the technical question is: how do I decide where, how much to short? The answer comes in the form of a working method: use the 2J-ladder to build the position starting small, small, small, and try to bring it higher and smaller.

Well, smaller - within reason. If the position (and the underlying "wheat", which is actually corn in our case) goes UP, it can and should grow little by little, as long as it doesn't get so large that a sudden move UP blows you off or becomes too much of a weight on your "insurance costs".



800. Post 32543432 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

This can't be the trustee selling. On Saturday? Puh-leeze!

This is manipulation, plain and simple. Somebody wants to have our coins for cheap.

Don't let them.

Hodl.



801. Post 32543870 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 17, 2018, 08:02:31 PM
There are a lot of people in the same boat, Wall St. wants those coins nice and cheap.

The pump will come immediately after tax day.

Which is... when's the last deadline?



802. Post 32544132 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 17, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
As a business owner I wouldn't price anything in bitcoin. Not yet anyway. Maybe after wider adoption it's volatility calms down. But you can still price your products in ounces of gold or silver and take bitcoin as payment. So that whole "bitcoin cant be a currency" thing is dumb. It may or may not ever be a good money. But it makes a fine currency even right now.

(snip)

Currently on a system's-wide basis, part of the problem with bitcoin has to do with Gresham's law, but another part is not widely adopted, but bitcoin is way better than pms in terms of divisibility, recognition, trustability and portability.. and perhaps a few more things when it just comes to the currency aspect of bitcoin.  

We may be solving the tx fee issue soonish. Signs are promising. However, one problem I see with bitcoin as a currency is price volatility. It's unbearable. I think that's what Anon136 meant when mentioning gold.

OK, 1 btc = 1 btc - so the price in echo-chamber terms is stable, but

How many apples for 1 btc?
How much bread, gasoline?
How many lambos?

Until these questions get an answer that drifts as slowly as gold (or better yet, slower), general adoption as a currency isn't reasonable to expect.



803. Post 32544438 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 17, 2018, 08:10:35 PM
There are a lot of people in the same boat, Wall St. wants those coins nice and cheap.

The pump will come immediately after tax day.

Which is... when's the last deadline?

April 17 is the tax deadline this year, but it seems a fairly random date to tie to any kind of meaningful BTC price performance

Hm, it's on a Tuesday. Maybe we'll see a pump on the weekend, April 20-22? I'm counting the Friday in the weekend, as it's apparently been for a long time, bitcoin-wise.

EDIT - Jojo69 also answered my question. Thanks.



804. Post 32544723 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Searing on March 17, 2018, 08:15:16 PM
This can't be the trustee selling. On Saturday? Puh-leeze!

This is manipulation, plain and simple. Somebody wants to have our coins for cheap.

Don't let them.

Hodl.

IMHO, the trustee has powers (at least in usa) to sell at best price...so I bet he can sell ..if he thinks the market is going to tank to 6k

i myself think that no selling BTC till sept meeting for gox is a joke..in a liguidation like this in usa you are required to get as much $$$ as

fast as possible for the most money..and the gox trustee has 1.5 billion BTC to move

IF his view that BTC is 'funny money' he will drop more and more as he tanks the market out of that fear

this could get very, very ugly

brad


This could get ugly for sure. It's already not too pretty as it is right now.

However, the trustee is subject to Japanese - not USA - regulations. I know absolutely nothing about these legal intricacies, but as we've seen in the Gox case, Gox's (I mean the ripped off customers') holdings were accounted in fiat value. If there's any coherence in Japanese bankruptcy laws, giving the corn away too cheap might get the trustee into a hornet's nest of legal retaliation/prosecution.

EDIT - more substance to my thesis from bitserve (nice detective job)

Quote from: bitserve on March 17, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
It isn't Kobayashi: https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180317_qa.pdf (skip to the last half for english translation)



805. Post 32556086 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

She keeps going down. Hard dump this weekend. Wish my short was bigger.



806. Post 32557093 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on March 18, 2018, 01:45:36 AM
She keeps going down. Hard dump this weekend. Wish my short was bigger.

Long to 7900

Fight the good fight!
I am using this small margin short as a hedge against an ugly crash.
I'm already long with all my stash. No leveraged margin. Actual btc. Long to the moon.



807. Post 32557828 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 18, 2018, 02:03:17 AM
She keeps going down. Hard dump this weekend. Wish my short was bigger.

Long to 7900

Fight the good fight!
I am using this small margin short as a hedge against an ugly crash.
I'm already long with all my stash. No leveraged margin. Actual btc. Long to the moon.
Is it mathematically viable? If the price goes down you make money, yes, but if it goes up do you make more than you lose on the short, only to make a new short higher up and repeat?

As you suspect, it's necessary to prop it up as bitcoin rises, otherwise what you gain on a dip, you lose on a climb. That's what I call babysitting or nursing. One good way to go about it is the 2J-ladder, which in a nutshell means to sell on the way up (make your short larger) and buy on the way down (make it smaller, profiting a bit).

The alternative is to just set up a largish insurance as a one-off expense and forget about it until it's worth redeeming. This is much easier on the nerves and doesn't require that much labor. However, there are issues with this brutal approach: you need to close it (on a loss) as soon as bitcoin rises too much, and reopen it higher (so a bit of monitoring and labor is required after all); it doesn't pay off with small profits when decreasing the size; and finally, it should be done near a maximum to start with. If we were that good at spotting maxima, life would be easier, wouldn't it? But then, the very point of such a hedge would be moot.



808. Post 32558087 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 18, 2018, 02:32:02 AM
She keeps going down. Hard dump this weekend. Wish my short was bigger.

Long to 7900

Fight the good fight!
I am using this small margin short as a hedge against an ugly crash.
I'm already long with all my stash. No leveraged margin. Actual btc. Long to the moon.
Is it mathematically viable? If the price goes down you make money, yes, but if it goes up do you make more than you lose on the short, only to make a new short higher up and repeat?

As you suspect, it's necessary to prop it up as bitcoin rises, otherwise what you gain on a dip, you lose on a climb. That's what I call babysitting or nursing. One good way to go about it is the 2J-ladder, which in a nutshell means to sell on the way up (make your short larger) and buy on the way down (make it smaller, profiting a bit).

The alternative is to just set up a largish insurance as a one-off expense and forget about it until it's worth redeeming. This is much easier on the nerves and doesn't require that much labor. However, there are issues with this brutal approach: you need to close it (on a loss) as soon as bitcoin rises too much, and reopen it higher (so a bit of monitoring and labor is required after all); it doesn't pay off with small profits when decreasing the size; finally, it should be done near a maximum to start with. If we were that good at spotting maxima, life would be easier, wouldn't it? But then, the very point of such a hedge would be moot.
Wouldn't it be easier to just sell a small percentage of your stash, buy lower if it drops and eat the loss if it goes up?

For several reasons, I like this solution less. There's much more friction involved in selling/buying real btc. Furthermore, I don't like holding more fiat than I need for ordinary expenses. But above all, this would create a series of taxable events that I want to avoid.



809. Post 32558117 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 18, 2018, 02:34:55 AM
Just me?  Or this starting to hurt a little?
A little, you say??  Embarrassed



810. Post 32558186 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

What do you think is going on?  Huh



811. Post 32559401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Torque on March 18, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
What do you think is going on?  Huh

Other than miners dumping to pay their bills, and the whales shorting? And Average Joe not jumping in to buy because he scared?

Not much else.
I'm disappointed that you, of all the distinguished gentlemen in this fine room, didn't come up with some fascinating, food-for-thought explanation.



812. Post 32600769 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: babanana on March 18, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
I have made money from the last bull run and withdrawn it into my bank to not care about this drop. One thing I am certain, I will buy back when the market is favorable. I have small orders already filled but big ones waiting at the very bottom. Dont be scared. Bitcoin from the very start is like this. We've seen worse. It will recover.

I closed off my short on the last terrific shake down to 7.3k. Too much profit to ignore.

Then I thought - before starting to nurse it again, why not go long?

So I have a long position now, from the past low. It's in profit right now, but I would like to wait a bit more before closing and reversing it.

So, I think this is the problem with margin trading. You begin cautiously - it's a hedge, you know - and before you know it, you turn into a gambler. A winning gambler for the time being, but that's the point: the change in attitude. Using margin trading properly and sticking to the plan - ot at least to the mindset - requires lots of discipline.

My hunch about quick-reversing and longing is still paying out, but if I manage to close this in profit, I'm going back to my safety short. Then let it go down to 2k. I won't care.



813. Post 32601057 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 18, 2018, 02:17:19 PM

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/W5wwj74c-Bitcoin-Long-Term-Trend-Analysis-A-near-term-clue-BLX-Update/

See how similar does it look? It is all over GoX again. Bloodbath to $2k incoming. They won't let it shoot up again unless dumb people do panic sells below $5k.

I checked that page, but I don't get the point. It seems to have been written in 2017 and updated.

Quote
*Btw whoever made this TA is a fucking genius and a legend.

The statements and predictions are generic, and there are whole orders of magnitude between alternatives. Are you being serious or sarcastic?



814. Post 32610556 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: mfort312 on March 18, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
And so 2018 marks a pivot point. Amateur speculators are spooked beyond belief and exiting the market in droves. But I think institutions are just starting to lick their chops and down-right salivate over the opportunity being handed to them. A global commodity that can and will be fiat-regulated, with a deflationary supply that cannot be artificially modified, an immutable public ledger, and unbreakable security if done right, barring any quantum leaps. We all know the technological benefits of Bitcoin are a dream come true for institutions, much more so than for the average Joe Public. Amateur speculators have been dreaming for this moment, the day when institutions take their little pet project seriously.

So what I don't understand is why everyone is suddenly running away, quitting the race, and basically just handing over the reins to the big boys for what is gearing up to be only 15% of December's price?
Because they are smashing the price down. I see some purpose to this action. However, if even Torque won't support me, I might be badly off.

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Because of one Mt Gox? Because of fear of regulation? Because of a crackdown on scammers? Because of fucking Google advertisements?
Yes, the usual FUD. Normally, it's moderately successful, but with the smell of bears on the horizon, it can become extremely effective.

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What gives, people? Isn't this what we were all waiting for?

I'm seeing a lot of talk of a protracted crypto winter like we saw in 2014. Do we honestly think the big boys are going to wait that long?
I share this view with you. They're probably drooling already, as you said. So why the protracted dump? This doesn't feel like mamas&papas selling off or old schoolers giving up. There must be something more to it.

That's why I was asking for discussion: to help myself build a mental movie of what's cooking - and of the possible future developments.  Not looking for numbers (maybe just ballpark times). A qualitative discussion would be ok at this point.



815. Post 32612338 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Awww Torque thanks! I was feeling lonely  Cheesy

Quote from: Torque on March 18, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
Major investors don't pay market price... for anything.  In any market, they run it up, control the float, then crash it down. They continuously short and dump and short and dump, until they have shaken the tree so much and for so long, that all the Average Joes completely lose hope of any rally any time soon.  Many will lose interest and die of boredom. All weak hands will finally be out.

And then once a bottom seemingly has been reached, they will massively dump again in a final capitulation. Scaring out any last weak hands.

Judging by the ongoing level of volatility, I don't think the final capitulation has happened yet. I still see newbs on Youtube talking about how they are "not fazed at all" by this downturn and still "gobbling up cheap coins."

"The market will remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

My advice for any long investor: Just buy bitcoin on a periodic schedule and forget about it for a few years.

Earlier, someone said something to the effect "The dump to 2k could be avoided if more dumb weak hands sell at 5k" - but I couldn't find the post and quote/credit the author.

However, those words resonated with me - and it also fits your movie nicely.

Who thinks that the situation can be summarized with a message like "Papas & mamas, dumb newcomers, please sell everything off before 5k! Doom! Doom! Cool"?



816. Post 32613831 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Majormax on March 18, 2018, 06:01:43 PM
Who thinks that the situation can be summarized with a message like "Papas & mamas, dumb newcomers, please sell everything off before 5k! Doom! Doom! Cool"?

Well, yes : and reasons : 

Price/      Time/    Volume/

Targets are mutually combined and partly exclusive.  This is advanced trading logic.

By example in this case:

IF  volume gets high enough, it will absolve price from getting low enough.

IF time elapsed (at say, low price level) is sufficient, it makes up for lower volume... in this case we are talking many months at the lows.

IF  price gets low enough, it can mark the bottom (ie spike low).

So therefore , price target cannot be set in stone where volume and time can vary so much.  Of course nobody can make precise predictions, but you will find that highs and lows over many markets long term have these peculiar properties of P/T/V .

Aha! Great insight! In other words, what counts is mainly the sum of volume * price... right?
I'd never seen it from this angle, but it makes a lot of sense.

One thing I like about this place is that there's always something to take away. At least for me.



817. Post 32615817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: scum on March 18, 2018, 06:20:11 PM
Last summer majormax said there would be no new ATH for another few years. Bitcoin hit a $20k ATH half a year later.
(relevant quote snipped)

Today he's making the same prediction of a few years of bear market without another ATH. His trade analysis of Bitcoin is full of shit.
(more doom and gloom stuff)

Great of you to out bunk predictions!
To use the words of our resident gay star,

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 18, 2018, 05:51:59 PM
Also, I've come to recognize everyone doing trade analysis of Bitcoin is full of shit.

which may well be the case. Predicting the future is an art for artists, visionaries, madmen. Over half of which are proved wrong anyway.

However, this doesn't detract from that specific observation: P/ T/ V/. I think it really makes a lot of sense, and it's a valuable tool to analyze any situation - not just the current one - and not necessarily to obtain accurate long term predictions. A few weeks would be more than enough in most crypto circumstances.




818. Post 32615996 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Searing on March 18, 2018, 06:31:23 PM
Well...I will likely DIE with my BTC hoard intact...but if BTC hits $6k, I am annoucing here now I will panic sell like an 8 year old child...all my

non-hoard btc/ltc and probably a good chunk of my LISK ICO coins.....

What? A seasoned old timer, early adopter, pioneer miner like you?

NO WAY!

Try to do that, and we will ask Bob to show you how wrong you were. I hear he's got lots of time on his hands right now...



819. Post 32617520 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on March 18, 2018, 06:58:57 PM
Speaking of capitulation, I'm CONSIDERING starting to contemplate selling a batch - if I can - between $7.5-$8k before end of March just to get the tax monkey off my back. Sent an email to my accountant asking what the penalty is on $xM deferred from Q1 to Q2.

Seriously.

Sheeeit.

No proud to admit this.

Also, I've come to recognize everyone doing trade analysis of Bitcoin is full of shit.
EVERYONE.

I'm thinking the same.

We can all hope/say it will moon in the future but short to mid term trading is as unpredictable as anything.

I don't see the point of drawing a line between tops and bottoms AT A CERTAIN POINT and then extrapolating onwards.
Or a curve, for that matter. Even without shifting points, too many curves can fit a fixed set. An uncountable infinity, actually.

I guess it's just a tool to help figure out the short term.



820. Post 32626342 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 18, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
Short squeeze. 

Please come back next weekend.
Yep. Sheer luck. I closed my long with serious profit. Now back to shorting, ready to let go still in the green if it really moons, but actually preparing to get rich (well, almost) in a < 6k scenario.



821. Post 32626523 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: infofront on March 18, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
(img snipped for legibility)

See how similar does it look? It is all over GoX again. Bloodbath to $2k incoming. They won't let it shoot up again unless dumb people do panic sells below $5k.

I checked that page, but I don't get the point. It seems to have been written in 2017 and updated.

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*Btw whoever made this TA is a fucking genius and a legend.

The statements and predictions are generic, and there are whole orders of magnitude between alternatives. Are you being serious or sarcastic?


I don't know what you're looking at, but it looks to me like he absolutely fucking nailed it:


(relevant "comment by img" snipped for legibility)
Allright, that's too many knowledgeable voices defending this analysis, including fabiorem and possibly others not quoted here. I guess I must be wrong and just failed to see value in that post. Maybe I should read it again, with more attention.



822. Post 32628253 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 18, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
Short squeeze.  

Please come back next weekend.
Yep. Sheer luck. I closed my long with serious profit. Now back to shorting, ready to let go still in the green if it really moons, but actually preparing to get rich (well, almost) in a < 6k scenario.

Too early I think. Wait for next weekend.  This G20 news could very well drive a relief rally.
Yes, reasonable point, HairyMaclairy, thanks for the tip.

I was a little uncertain myself, but my entry point is high enough to grant a little ginger boldness. If the week goes sideways-down as the past one, I can try and close it on profit a little at a time, without worries.

Now I can set a tight stop loss and basically forget it.  Back to life. Pheew... I wasn't born to be a trader, for sure.  Grin



823. Post 32630219 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on March 18, 2018, 10:25:15 PM
I let others do the thinking.
I allways have a peek at the funding book at Finex. It represents the sentiment of lots of people (hopefully professionals), actually putting their money on the line, voting with their feet.

And what does that book tell you right now?



824. Post 32631888 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 18, 2018, 11:18:40 PM

That's actually what I hope will happen!

Not necessarily my prediction - I'm not able to do that, and the mammoths are nowhere to be seen (or heard).



825. Post 32634029 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 19, 2018, 12:22:45 AM
Just checking in. Is it safe?
Mayor! Good to see your head out of the sand. Jimbo also got in just a minute to say hello. Regards to Rosewater. Need a shovel before you go or is that hole on the beach still good?



826. Post 32794746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Still on page 20k!



827. Post 32794965 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 20, 2018, 10:14:03 PM
glade length getting back on track
Got a tentative timeframe or target level?



828. Post 32833865 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 21, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
too quiet
Seems like everyone lost their hopes to land on 20k.
I predict another short bear run  Cool

(Of course I'm talking about the WOTPC thing!)



829. Post 32834106 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 21, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
I don't think that government regulations will pose a real threat anytime soon. They know for years already, that bitcoin is mostly used for illegal activities like drugs and child porn,

(more rants and FUD snipped)

Hey Frère Jacques... isn't "bittard" kind of a French equivalent for "dickhead"?
So your chosen name would be something like "Jack Dickhead", amirite?

TLDR; Username checks out.



830. Post 32834268 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 21, 2018, 02:09:17 PM
I expect to see some tears in 2h
Not until Friday, I'd say. And some will be tears of joy.



831. Post 32835664 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 21, 2018, 02:19:27 PM

Jimbo and Jojo got together?



832. Post 32846072 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Torque on March 21, 2018, 04:29:36 PM
In the Socialist/Communist NWO coming soonTM, an effort will be made to eradicate all online shitposting. "Freebanding" will become illegal. Every social media and forum will have a "token" that you have to purchase first and spend for every post you make.

"A penny for your thoughts?" Nah, it'll cost you more like $0.30/post + yrly inflation.  Tongue

Well but then "good posters" (whatever the term will have turned out to mean) will ask the site for compensation exceeding the posting fee by a good multiple. I'm thinking mainly of social networks that extract value from clueless cows, such as Facebook - not specialized discussion forums such as this.



833. Post 32854557 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: doc12 on March 21, 2018, 05:38:26 PM
*collects tears when everyone are busy crying*

Yup, that's my preferred method of collecting tears and Bitcoin. Lovely way to do it.

If you are collecting bitcoins now, then I'm afraid that you might be a little too quick on your feet. I came here today because I sensed a cloud of tears and I don't see any light to blissful happiness yet.

Is this roach or a new fucktard in this thread? (Jacques)
Hasn't mentioned precious metals or joos in the latest 4 posts. Can't be old Roach.

Connard in French is a blockhead, bollockhead. By extension, Bittard is a dickhead.

So my estimate is: New self-appointed dickhead (French name checks out).



834. Post 32856279 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Elwar on March 21, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
That was back when threads on this forum were relevant and we discussed things. Instead of being just tools to get peoples' signature campaigns post counts.

At least in this thread, signatures are suppressed - a blessing, I'd say.

We do have to put up with uninformed dickheads and shills and FUDsters, but we have valid contrarian voices and a healthy discussion, if we manage to skip the shitposts without soiling ourselves.




835. Post 32856480 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 21, 2018, 07:33:12 PM
Something is very, very wrong, in the sampling methodology... if there is any at all!

Yes, the sampling methodology is certainly suspect. However, the fact that the percentage that indicated they already hold cryptos is ~ same as those saying they plan on it is very interesting.


I have the feeling most of those who already hold crypto are old school hodlers and still accumulating by BTFD-ing.  This would explain the closeness of the two ratios.

Newcomers, FOMOers etc. do exist, of course, but if the sampling is done in specific communities as it's likely given the results (Reddit? Bitcointalk?), their numbers are quite small.



836. Post 32869317 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Elwar on March 22, 2018, 12:29:17 AM
SHA-2 (Secure Hash Algorithm 2) is a set of cryptographic hash functions.

SHA-256 is used in several different parts of the Bitcoin network:

Mining uses SHA-256 as the Proof of work algorithm.
SHA-256 is used in the creation of bitcoin addresses to improve security and privacy.
How dare you contradict?
Satoshi knows better for sure.
 Roll Eyes



837. Post 32875764 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 22, 2018, 03:19:42 AM
Guys

I’m warning you again. This weekend looks like it it going to be rough.  If you are delicate or panicky, log out now and come back late next week. Leave some low buy orders.  

Hairy
Vigilant Hairy, I appreciate the heads up. I'm short already.



838. Post 32939166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: serveria.com on March 22, 2018, 09:48:29 PM
Every single prediction I've seen today (including Masterluc's) is bearish. Looks suspicious to me - I predict MOON!  Tongue

Short term predictions by Masterluc don't mean that much IMO. However, FWIW I'm short term bearish too. Honey badger needs a nap.



839. Post 32942622 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 22, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
Cmon Infofront you would be up in arms if Michelle Obama was acting SoS.  Or Malia if she was older.  So would I.  I would lose my nut if Hillary was President and appointed Chelsea as acting SoS.  You can’t tell me you believe this is ok.   Appointing close family members to the highest positions in the government is what third world dictators do.  

This sort of behavior should transcend party lines and we should all stand up against it, because it leads to tyranny.
The last line of decency is broken.
The US have been a "hereditary semiconstitutional republic" for a few decades anyway.



840. Post 32947843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: BlackSpidy on March 23, 2018, 02:36:21 AM
Here comes the panic selling from the Asians! Down down down!

I'm looking for those $7800 bitcoin  Cool
You might be able to get them a bit cheaper.

Source: Mammoths. Basically out of my ass, as Hairy would undoubtedly (and reasonably) say.



841. Post 32948280 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 23, 2018, 02:43:26 AM
You’re pulling that out of your ass.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 23, 2018, 02:46:25 AM
Keep in mind we should bounce again by early next week.  It’s just the weekend is likely to be bad.  

I agree on both points.
FWIW, of course.

EDIT - by "a bit cheaper", I'm assfully prognosticating 7200-7400.



842. Post 32948395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Ivor Biggun on March 23, 2018, 02:56:05 AM

Is this the sauce?



Invalid Proxy sauce?  Huh
Sometimes this proxy thing gets on my tits.

EDIT - Now I see it! Yes Ivor, you nailed it. Shitty pic, BTW.  Tongue



843. Post 32973353 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 23, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
It’s just another weekend.
I think the craziness will start in 3h... 2h... steadfast to our hats, gents.



844. Post 32973516 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: SidETH on March 23, 2018, 11:13:29 AM
Prime Minister of Malta welcomes Binance to Malta. Binance to have fiat links through Malta banks.  Bullish.

I salute you for the speed at which you find these things.
Indeed. Recently Hairy and V8 are being formidable scouts. Assets.  Smiley



845. Post 32976702 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 23, 2018, 11:29:18 AM
RECENTLY

Meaning the quality of your scouting is improving steadily...  not to disregard previous contributions! Grin



846. Post 32985425 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 23, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
I'm not even in the money till 77ish

bids at 65ish
Much the same here. 78ish for me.



847. Post 32990643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

I smell a bulltrap.
It ain't over until it's over.



848. Post 32990784 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 23, 2018, 02:39:30 PM
It’s just another weekend.
I think the craziness will start in 3h... 2h... steadfast to our hats, gents.

Hats? Pants!
Don't you mention pants anymore, mkay???  Angry



849. Post 32991154 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 23, 2018, 03:20:58 PM
(snip for space)

Nice. Looks like we're not going under $8000. Never ever.


Never say "never". And more than anything, don't say "never ever" unless you stake booze for all of us and, uhm, special treatment for the gents. You are welcome, no, even encouraged to hire professionals for the treatment. No amateurs.

(Sorry, your post really begged for this  Tongue Tongue Tongue)



850. Post 33024358 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on March 23, 2018, 06:35:48 PM
RECENTLY

Growing you a Legendary V8  Wink
You can't seriously be a Hero down here


Well, Karartma1 put it even better!



851. Post 33025564 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 23, 2018, 11:39:03 PM
BTC $8700. Most extraordinary.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 24, 2018, 12:44:04 AM
I think everyone has been expecting a big dump and the failure of that big dump is bullish. But the weekend isn’t over.  The next 28 hours are critical. 

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 24, 2018, 02:16:10 AM
Oh fuck.  Earwig’o. 

Toronto Stock Exchange to launch cryptocurrency exchange

https://www.ccn.com/toronto-stock-exchange-operator-to-launch-cryptocurrency-brokerage-platform/

Unexpected eh? FUD suppressed 100%, BCH hashrate menace vanished and all. I am also slightly surprised, but actually not that much. There were too many of us predicting a regular weekend dump and then on Monday blah blah - starting from me! It's not like "I knew, y'all clueless morons!"

Now let's be paranoid for a while - as a thought exercise. If I were a nasty whale - bear or bull is no fit category for such beasts - I'd try to fool the average noncontrarian smart traders who think they've got it all figured out - yes, that's me. And I don't feel I am alone. How would I go about that? Just the opposite of what's predicted by the smart herd of cows. Let her go up, up. No weekend dump, see, nice eh? Moon coming, hehe. A slightly better than average Monday... and then a brutal dive on Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when a short hedge can have your back and piss off the whale.

Just thinkin' aloud. Food for debate.



852. Post 33025755 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Hello Bones, I'm sorry it went like that. Maybe it's not a thing for you, but it can work in the right circumstances.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 23, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Well, so much for trying to short BTC on margin as a hedge and setting a wimpy stop loss. Roll Eyes REKT! Should have known better. Not sure what strategy that I need to employ to try and preserve value in this downtrend market.  Cry
If hedge it must be, it's better to try harder, knowing we'll take a few blows. It's supposed to cost us more than a "wimpy" loss if it goes against us. It takes a cool mind to be able to swallow a 20%-25% loss - but such a loss only if she shows signs of mooning (>10k, say), not if she just gets back but still stays under the latest local max (8900 or so).

The hedge short should be sized (small) and placed (high) as to become an unbearable-cut-me-here liability only around 12k, ideally even higher, so it's advisable to build it from < 1 leverage, scalping (partially closing/longing/buying) on each dip and reshorting (selling) slightly more, higher.

In the process, I had to swallow some losses already to lighten my position. But now I feel safe enough. I'll dump it with a curse if it really becomes unbearable. Btc > 12k? I can live with that. Half-sour curse really. Get under 7.8k and I'll collect some. Not much. Just so I can add it back at a higher price, if (when?) it happens.

You might be a bit too emotional, or your play money might be too small to buy serious insurance. However, with some discipline I think the game can be can practiced (actually played!) as if the small play bankroll were a gazillion dollars. After all, the coin can be broken into very fine grained units.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 23, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Please tell me you aren't serious...


He probably wasn't - a half-assed hedge played as a noncommittal bear is no way to go about it.

On the other hand, I confess I'm being serious, Bob - in a cold, but secretly hopeful, would-be unemotional way. Scenarios, worst cases, etc., all worked out in advance is the way to go. Know how much you can lose and in which exact circumstances.

I hope you can feel my neutral, clinical tone, Bones. This post isn't meant to point you out or offend you. On the contrary, you have lots of experience I don't have and likely never will (mining etc), so I look at you with respect and think you might see my point. Honestly, I haven't actually had a very expensive lesson yet, but I did have quite a few smaller ones. That's how I learned the little gameplay I know (very little!). You just got a lesson too, at a reasonable price. You weren't actually rekt if you could decide to call quits (as you did), so you survived after all. Come on, whine less and suffer your blows like a fightin' man  Tongue



853. Post 33025868 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on March 24, 2018, 03:15:38 AM
Yes, but why?
As an exercise to build a model that works, or more mundanely as an exercise to maximize utility in different scenarios - preparing for both UP or DOWN in times of turbulence, as someone would say in many more words.



854. Post 33027617 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 24, 2018, 02:30:14 AM
JJG, why the personal attacks here?

I speculate that JJG imagines themself to be the mostest specialest importantest poster in all of Bitcoindom. Perhaps merely marking territory?

1stly) JJG is not plural.    Tongue

2ndly) ascribing a self aggrandizing self-assessment seems a form of irrelevant personal attack

3rdly) Marking territory, me?   I thought that I was merely engaging in a back and forth discussion... Surely, I will concede that my back and forth devolved in a bit more of a personality assessment of Rosewater than perhaps necessary, but Rosewater is also bringing some of this on  himself/herself, too.  Further, my assessment  in that earlier post, namely juxtaposing the ideas of toothless and spineless, was meant to communicate about internet sensitivities - all be it, concededly, my post did devolve in a kind of personal way, too.

TLDR:  Shit happens.

See, jbreher? JJG is saying sorry in his slightly convoluted way, but to Jimbo and Rosewater, who don't seem to be too hurt or bothered anyway - not to you. You just keep on blurting out that nutjob bigblocker nonsense, so he just can't help not giving a ratt's ass. Nor can I. It's just that I try to keep it civil. We need another 4MB right now as we need a hole in our head, to quote a dead legend.

Now if you could just be nicer to each other, well that would be great.
(insert meme, I can't be bothered).

Like, say, two esteemed colleagues in ladder practices - it wasn't named the 2J-ladder by chance.

Then, soon we could have a nice Easter barbecue (with veggie options and all), and the world would be a better place.

Go figure.



855. Post 33071479 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Is the volume unusually low even for a weekend, or is it just me?



856. Post 33072971 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 24, 2018, 05:13:17 PM
Is the volume unusually low even for a weekend, or is it just me?

It's a death cross breath holding exercise.  A game of chicken.  Place your bets.  Or.... hold.

Just what I suspect/smell/am talking about (after taking it out of my ass, admittedly).

The situation appears static, calm before the storm. No more bets for me ATM, I'm set up until things move from here.

If I were a whale or a large shark, I'd pick exactly a moment like this to try and tweak the price.

Maybe I'm growing too paranoid? I feel pleasantly detached.

The next 48-72 hours may be critical even if we don't realize it yet.



857. Post 33096199 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 25, 2018, 12:54:37 AM

See, jbreher? JJG is saying sorry in his slightly convoluted way,

Without either admitting or denying, I could not help but to find humor in that.


Now if you could just be nicer to each other, well that would be great.
(insert meme, I can't be bothered).

This "now kiss" meme is pretty decent:


Your meme in particular is just it. (Y) Thank you, JJ. Glad you liked it.



858. Post 33096921 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 24, 2018, 09:22:28 AM
(snip)
There were too many of us predicting a regular weekend dump and then on Monday blah blah - starting from me! It's not like "I knew, y'all clueless morons!"

Now let's be paranoid for a while - as a thought exercise. If I were a nasty whale - bear or bull is no fit category for such beasts - I'd try to fool the average noncontrarian smart traders who think they've got it all figured out - yes, that's me. And I don't feel I am alone. How would I go about that? Just the opposite of what's predicted by the smart herd of cows. Let her go up, up. No weekend dump, see, nice eh? Moon coming, hehe. A slightly better than average Monday... and then a brutal dive on Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when a short hedge can have your back and piss off the whale.

Just thinkin' aloud. Food for debate.

It was only you and Hairy that I remember. Sorry but the short term trend has been up since the bottom and the higher low despite TERA's prediction-making traincrash. Maybe all that will come when the short and medium term trends collide, but maybe we also go on to challenge 11.4 a third time. First let's keep on busting up through local resistance levels until we see what fud if any they publish tomorrow night.

I'll be happy to be wrong for a modest 20%-25% fee. Good to hear solid positive thinking from a disenchanted old fox. The short term is a bull mammoth, indeed. I'm not really expecting a train crash. More like a short sequence (2-3?) of shaking gestures, not sure if crescendo or diminuendo (not constant intensity).  I think big players have more profit when they can inject turbulence and volatilty, and here is a rather juicy fruit, hanging low enough for a sufficiently tall individual or beach pyramid team.

That the long term is bullish I have little doubt. Crypto apocalypse not scanned in my radar. It's only that she can play games at times, especially when she hangs out with the wrong guys. A silly girl - not in her teens yet, you know.


Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 24, 2018, 08:38:37 PM
Come on people stop diddling now let's get to the main event

Let's get it on to the main event indeed.
I love your taste.



859. Post 33097030 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: vanobe on March 24, 2018, 11:44:15 PM
is crypto done??  Huh

Nah. It's just stunned and confused for a little bit. Took a shot in the nuts. Give 'ole Bitcorn a bit to recover and straighten back up.





+1 WoSMerit for Blue Norwegians everywhere.



860. Post 33099626 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

"A mouth is a mouth."

(My most cynical, permahorny friend, as we were discussing the limits of homo/no homo among etheros.)



861. Post 33209680 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 26, 2018, 10:31:17 AM
So. I was going to sell some of my stash this summer to pay of all my loans and then retire and live of my passive income that I have from my disability pension, some insurances that pays out monthly and some other stuff. That would give me a nice middle class life with no worries. And as a nice topping on the cake I would get to see the face of my employer when I tell him I quit. I'm one of only two guys who knows how to do that special job right now and he would be in a state of slight panic. He is also a real asshole, which is why that would have given me much rejoice.

But to my great disappointment he went belly up a month ago, so I have been without a job for a month now, and have to sell right now instead of in the summer. Bad timing but nothing I can do about it.
I just sold one fourth of my stash and when the money hits my bank account tomorrow I will immediately pay of all debts and bills. and then I will take a tour of nostalgia to places in my life, an actual tour through the city that is.
I will stop and reminisce on the places I have lived and the places I have worked and other significant places from my life, and then I will just go somewhere and have a cup of coffee and enjoy total freedom from work and debt.
I am now officially retired at 57 and it feels great.
Another of us who breaks out. Way to go, Arriemoller. Wherever you want!



862. Post 33209870 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

And I was expecting a cozy Monday, or even a slightly encouraging one. My hunches about market trajectories are really crap. At least, I learned not to bet on a hunch already some time ago.



863. Post 33211091 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

 Cheesy



864. Post 33216438 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on March 26, 2018, 01:41:04 PM
The market is weird. Every time one guy sells, another one buys, and they both think they're smart.

+1 WoSMerit  Smiley



865. Post 33227198 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: mfort312 on March 26, 2018, 04:01:08 PM
We're now on month three of higher lows and lower highs. Not much foot or head room to keep playing this game, two or three weeks tops before one or the other trend line breaks.

You watch the playground closely, as we know from your beautiful letters to Mom & Pop.
I appreciate your tentative timing. I would agree with it, but what do I know?

What I'd like to hear from you is: any hints or hunches as to which trend line seems easier to snap?




866. Post 33228649 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

8k broken
someone should be glad not to have said "never ever"  Wink



867. Post 33229079 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: mike4001 on March 26, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
Down we go.

Is there still anyone out there believing we will go above 10k in the foreseeable future?
I do. It's just the exact sequence of ups and downs that eludes me, unfortunately!

This is just the first shake. Brace yourselves, gentlemen.



868. Post 33277080 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 27, 2018, 04:03:33 AM
I know a lot of you are socks and long cons and trolls, but for the rest, I'm going to be saying my goodbyes soon. I don't want to get sticky about it. I guess it's personal. Just listen: good luck, godspeed, thank you. It's been a real eye-opener.
I hope we hear from you from time to time. You'll be missed.
If you see the Mayor, tell him I don't mind about the pants anymore. They were just old trousers anyway.



869. Post 33287503 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

... that we're all devilish cunts?



870. Post 33326173 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: RayX12 on March 27, 2018, 11:38:35 PM
Seems like there are big fast pushes down followed by a slow movement upwards followed by another big push down. It's that trickle upwards that shows what most of the market sentiment is. The big pushes down are either big sell offs or someone trying to make some money on a short.
Confirmed!
Yes, I called them shaking gestures. I wonder if the current one is separate from what happened a few hours ago, or if both together should count as one.

However called, down we go again. A higher low? I'm playing wait and see.



871. Post 33326762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 28, 2018, 12:03:10 AM
BTFD only applies to sharp high volume drops - not the slow preamble before it.
Indeed. At the moment I'm nursing my hedging short. With the gentle swings of today, I managed to up its entry by ~120, while making a small profit. I'd like to buy some corn at the bottom, if I only knew where it is - or when. Just one of these two pieces of data would go a long way.

Care to suggest anything from your different - but respectable - vantage point?



872. Post 33327105 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 28, 2018, 12:18:32 AM
I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.



873. Post 33327266 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: yonton on March 28, 2018, 12:26:36 AM
I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.
Lets face it, you're only here because you sold at 2k and you dream of getting back in close to what you sold for? Reveal yourself!
Are you asking me or Tera?

If it's me you're addressing, you're far from the truth. Very, very far.

Not that I would mind getting some coin at 2k... but not because I sold. And it's not a thing of today, or tomorrow.



874. Post 33327793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

While we're here wondering, let's munch some gossip.
Here's a couple updates from Masterluc in the last few days.

Quote from: Masterluc
(2018.03.25)
I do not know what to write, the indicators are not very good. Wall Street on Friday fell heavily, but bitcoin in the meantime is carefully cutting the sausage (sobering up?). In general, we trample carefully on the spot with bad indicators and surroundings.

Quote from: Masterluc
(2018.03.20)
For my medium-term optimism, it is necessary that the price immediately rises above the daily ma 200 and weekly ma 20.



875. Post 33329678 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Meanwhile, far away, in another part of town, not only the Dow took a good blow (-1.43%), but even the more stable S&P500 did (-1.72%). The Nasdaq is surrounded by a troupe of paramedics (-2.94%).



876. Post 33378793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: infofront on March 28, 2018, 03:12:52 PM
Here's how much information google and facebook store about you.
Paraphrasing Ben Franklin, we are giving up our freedom not for security, but for convenience. Maybe we deserve what's coming.



877. Post 33381191 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Sitarow on March 28, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
BCH could be likened to a parallel attempt to accomplish a similar goal in good faith I might add.

I'm not that sure about the good faith.

@Torque Oh, yeah.



878. Post 33382627 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Ivor Biggun on March 28, 2018, 04:17:13 PM

This is the link you use for deleting your account. First login to facebook, then go to that link.

https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

It's very difficult to find. The deactivate account option is easy to find, but doesn't delete all your data.
And honestly, I'm doubtful even deleting your account would actually make them delete data about you. They've got it, it's their data already.

Quote
Neither deleting or deactivating your account forces apps you installed to delete any data they squired from your account. You have send a request to each app developer for that.

All those bitcoiners who claimed stellars from the snapshot last year had to install a stellar facebook app to claim. The stellar app developer is probably holding more of their data than they realize.
A very good and relevant example for this community.



879. Post 33393043 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on March 28, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
Anybody that has run the numbers knows that the current network cannot even remotely handle global transactional demand.
And Lightning Network is the answer to that. Not just more block size pile on.
Again, block size increases have nothing to do with the promotion of increasing userbase or merchant adoption. If that were the case, merchants and end users would be going crazy for BCash right now.
News flash, Walter Cronkite: They aren't.
I already addressed that in my original post...
Of course, LN might give us a lot of leeway, but eventually block sizes will need to be increased.
Dryja and Poon specifically mentioned the need to eventually increase block sizes in the original LN proposal.

A need that no one here denies. But we're doing just fine right now. Let's wait for the opening/closing of LN channels to strain the blockchain, shall we?



880. Post 33397251 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 28, 2018, 07:31:34 PM
I requested a download of my Facebook data a week ago (haven’t used it for years). Surprise surprise haven’t received it yet.
I guess you will. I did, too, and got the archive nearly immediately, as a matter of fact. It was HUGE. I was scared. I never was a heavy user. Just to keep up with friends' events, birthdays and similar stuff. It was like 3-4 years ago.



881. Post 33397426 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: motoprose on March 28, 2018, 07:27:59 PM

This is the link you use for deleting your account. First login to facebook, then go to that link.

https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

It's very difficult to find. The deactivate account option is easy to find, but doesn't delete all your data.
And honestly, I'm doubtful even deleting your account would actually make them delete data about you. They've got it, it's their data already.

Even after deleting your account facebook admits it still retains some data, but claims it "disassociates it from your personal identifiers". However if you don't delete your account it will retain all your data for certain. Also, the amount of gov pressure facebook is under might eventually force it to delete any data remaining from deleted accounts.


It is just like a bank account.
You ask the bank to remove all your personal information because of the Equifax breach last year and they will tell you the same thing. They will delete you data from their data base once you cease a bank account with them but if you do some more digging you will find out that is a lie. They keep your data on their record books for upto 5 years and even longer due to the IRS forcing them too.

Banks at least have got the IRS excuse, which is as good as it gets. Banks also have somewhat accountable headquarters in all countries, so they're easier for governments to control. But Facebook, Google, Amazon? From the US, good luck. From as far as Canada, forget it already.



882. Post 33401734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on March 28, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
Knowing my footprint will not link back to my real name, tho I'm sure big brother will eventually get wise...
Eventually? Ahahahaha  Cheesy Cheesy



They know everything about your persona already.



883. Post 33402799 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 28, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
Moving along this channel nicely. Same group of fudsters still trying to punch the price down for cheaper coins. I am still of the same mind that getting below existing support levels is going to be difficult and chances are fading by the hour as we close in on April.
#dyor #cryptouplift



captioning classic photos is turning into a obsession...


Dont be Greta.


The slips - or shakes - are getting weaker, but I am still not so sure we shouldn't count these smaller ones as "ripples" from the first one. In which case, more shakes are coming - and they might be stronger. For now, we haven't seen any attempt to dive deeper than the last dip @7200-ish, which helps me keep my cool.

Which long term support do you have in mind when you say that? The bottom of the green strip? How high would that be in a end of March/beginning of April interval?



884. Post 33442420 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

No earthquake, no imminent disaster, no fear, no Gox. This weekend is just starting earlier because of Easter. Weekdays resume on Tuesday.



885. Post 33444905 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 29, 2018, 12:24:30 PM
No earthquake, no imminent disaster, no fear, no Gox. This weekend is just starting earlier because of Easter. Weekdays resume on Tuesday.

How low’s it gonna be by then though? I’m sensing a drop to $5xxx which would suck!
Low $6xxx surely.

Another SureFire estimate(TM) by SOMA Analytics!

(c) 2018 Straight Off My Ass



886. Post 33448220 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 29, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.

Avarage Joe hasn't lost interest yet. You still seem very interested.

Except he isn't Average Joe.

P.S. Are we not overfeeding the trolls? They're growing a bit fat and bold. Their smell is starting to make the place unpleasant to visit.



887. Post 33451924 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 29, 2018, 02:24:41 PM
Except he isn't Average Joe.

Oh yeah? Please explain.
I would, but you've grown a bit fat and bold. And you smell. Try hard enough, you probably can figure out.



888. Post 33452192 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Torque on March 29, 2018, 02:35:45 PM
"Dear valued customers,

We will close all the trading pairs in BCH market of Token Trading at 18:00 Mar 30, 2018 (Hong Kong time, UTC+8) due to inadequate liquidity. For better management of your funds, we recommend you to cancel your pending orders as soon as possible or our system will cancel them all at the closing time. Thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience caused."

https://support.okex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002258531

OKex appears to be bcash's highest volume exchange.

Goodbye BCash shitcoin. We hardly knew ye.
But but... block size... highway...
 Tongue Tongue Tongue



889. Post 33564943 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

I'm with Hairy on this one. Volume is too wimpy yet. Saturday night might be ugly, uglier than many of us think.

But of course this is another SOMA prediction, guys! No need to worry!

Straight Off My Ass predictions - Almost always wrong since 1998!



890. Post 33564965 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: RayX12 on March 30, 2018, 03:32:12 PM
If you are not sure  then watch this and then make your own conclusions.
This guy is very very good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmJwbJ3MVg&feature=em-uploademail

And he also talks about ladders in another video - for staggered entries, though. Nothing like the 2J-ladder.



891. Post 33565269 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 31, 2018, 02:09:02 AM
I'm with Hairy on this one. Volume is too wimpy yet. Saturday night might be ugly, uglier than many of us think.

A few posters have been busy setting up a doom scenario for this weekend. I think it's a ruse
Doomed is who doomed does.
Ugly or very ugly does not necessarily mean doom.



892. Post 33566316 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 31, 2018, 02:16:57 AM
I'm with Hairy on this one. Volume is too wimpy yet. Saturday night might be ugly, uglier than many of us think.

A few posters have been busy setting up a doom scenario for this weekend. I think it's a ruse
Doomed is who doomed does.
Ugly or very ugly does not necessarily mean doom.

Maybe you missed the implication.
I sure did. What were you meaning?



893. Post 33595510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: mudbone on March 31, 2018, 02:55:24 AM
I'm with Hairy on this one. Volume is too wimpy yet. Saturday night might be ugly, uglier than many of us think.

A few posters have been busy setting up a doom scenario for this weekend. I think it's a ruse
Doomed is who doomed does.
Ugly or very ugly does not necessarily mean doom.

Maybe you missed the implication.
I sure did. What were you meaning?

To be clear. Based on nothing, admittedly, you think Saturday _might_ be ugly. Not only ugly, but _uglier than we think_. I'd ask you to explain, but you prefaced it with the fact you pulled it out of your ass.
I'm not trying to put too fine a point on this. I'm supposed to be retired.
Ah I see what you mean now. Are you the Mayor's house elf by any chance?

Yes I'm based on nothing objective. My TA is built on shakier ground than most other analysts', which is quite a feat. But the volume is too low to make any movement meaningful. My manipulation antennae twitch. Besides, I'm not the only one thinking we must revisit the recent low area before we can break out again. It might take years, though I don't think so. And I don't believe in the $3k-4k again story.

However, high 6k's is not low enough IMO. That's what I mean by "uglier than many of us think". The suffering isn't done with yet. And this Saturday is as good as any other for a little suffering. Probably even better than usual, since next Monday is a holiday in several parts of the world and the prolonged fiat thinness helps would-be manipulators.



894. Post 33605395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

I wish there were fewer cash settled derivatives and more coin settled ones.



895. Post 33668256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 07:56:25 AM
But why do I have zero karma?  Huh

Karma is related to the trust system. Have you ever had trust dealings here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3232693.0



896. Post 33668720 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 07:51:50 AM
While its obvious we are in a bear market,

Really? Bearwhales will run out of ammo soon and we'll climb back up to at least 5 digits. Then around June-July we'll see a new ATH and we'll moon in October-November or so.  Cool

I think bearwhales play in fiat-settled assets (paper claims on actual bitcoin), as yefi recently suggested:

Quote from: yefi on April 01, 2018, 02:24:54 AM
When bankers run the world behind the scenes controlling the laws and the money printing presses they can own and control anything they wish too.

Bitcoin isn't a problem you can print your way out of. All it will achieve (or all it has achieved) is to make the believers richer and more resolute.

What they want to do is divert money away into paper claims on bitcoins - but they're going to face difficulty on that front.

If so, they won't "run out of ammo" as long as they can print their ammo.

That's why I think the only way to disarm them and let the market run as unencumbered as possible is to have bitcoin-settled derivatives (futures, options, whatever). If and when these become dominant in the derivative market, whales will need to get themselves lots of coin before playing any game, or they will need lots of lots of coins after playing a game and losing it.

(I'm not picking on you, serveria. On the contrary, your posts offered me the most inspiration for a reply.)



897. Post 33669754 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: TERA2 on April 01, 2018, 09:16:38 AM
Shit how did btctalk know how many coins I had? Must be running some badass analytics.

Wait a minute... JayGuanGee: Politeness: 2280... hahahahahaha

Hahaha! That's when I, too, figured out it's a fourth month, first day adjustment.



898. Post 33670152 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 01, 2018, 08:27:12 AM
Some LOLZ:

In 2015 Jacques posted this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg11631529#msg11631529

then in 2018 he was hating on bitcoin starting here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2965877.msg30527709#msg30527709

Guess he sold all his btc in 2015. LOL.

No posts from late 2015 to Feb 2018. Once the bear was back. LOL. Could it be more obvious?

Watching you work is a privilege.

Aren't we feeding these smelly creatures a bit too much?



899. Post 33673382 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: josephpogi on April 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM
please read this :
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

That article has moved to steemit

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@supercrypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-price-suppression-is-the-goal

It can easily be dismissed as tinfoil club drivel.

Or can it? Make up your own mind.



900. Post 33676236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
While its obvious we are in a bear market,

Really? Bearwhales will run out of ammo soon and we'll climb back up to at least 5 digits. Then around June-July we'll see a new ATH and we'll moon in October-November or so.  Cool

I think bearwhales play in fiat-settled assets (paper claims on actual bitcoin), as yefi recently suggested:

When bankers run the world behind the scenes controlling the laws and the money printing presses they can own and control anything they wish too.

Bitcoin isn't a problem you can print your way out of. All it will achieve (or all it has achieved) is to make the believers richer and more resolute.

What they want to do is divert money away into paper claims on bitcoins - but they're going to face difficulty on that front.

If so, they won't "run out of ammo" as long as they can print their ammo.

That's why I think the only way to disarm them and let the market run as unencumbered as possible is to have bitcoin-settled derivatives (futures, options, whatever). If and when these become dominant in the derivative market, whales will need to get themselves lots of coin before playing any game, or they will need lots of lots of coins after playing a game and losing it.

(I'm not picking on you, serveria. On the contrary, your posts offered me the most inspiration for a reply.)


The only way to disarm them is to BTFD and HODLCRAEFUYLLY!  Nothing else can shake them out or this game.

Unfortunately it's not possible as there's still a lot of weak hands, panic sellers and most notably miners who need to sell regularly for a living....
That's why hodling might be enough for self peace of mind, keeping losses low and providing happy returns.

But it's not enough to stop the powers that be from playing their game, even if they are low on coin. If they do have coin, fair enough, they can try to do whatever they like, as far as that coin changes hands when things go against them. If they don't, they can still use the fiat in their deep pockets to do the same, without any practical medium-term limit. Just print more if/when needed - ok, right, it's "when", not "if".

The only way to have a playground that is as fair as possible is to ban fiat settled paper coins (derivatives).

Not happening any time soon - or ever - I know.



901. Post 33677552 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Herewe go. Another shove down.



902. Post 33678950 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

My SOMA Prediction(TM) for the day.

Based on highly scientific hunches, sophisticated 4-dimensional technical analysis, barbershop and shoeshine boy brainstorming, and mainly on carefully extracted rectal material, I feel we will briefly kiss 6k. On Tuesday, some of the blood will get cleaned. Just some, though.


Straight Off My Ass Analytics - Mostly wrong, most of the time!



903. Post 33680117 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: mindrust on April 01, 2018, 01:43:57 PM
Bitcoin has a secret weapon, it is call scarcity!

Take those coins away from the market and they will need to pump it again to shake the tree.  Grin



Not when they can provoke a massive panic selling, making the price drop to uncanny and unimaginable low levels.

Remember, they can print fiat money out of nowhere and at any time. Fiat money for them is infinite, and that's where most people base their perception of value.

The ensuing crisis from so much printing will be blamed on crypto, prompting legal persecution against it.

They were able to manipulate the price to below 8k in a matter of months. And this with only 10% of volume in the exchanges, the rest locked in personal wallets.

The solution is for the exchanges to create a private conclave and put a stop to it, blocking any trade below the mining value, with full authority and in a very artificial and biased way. This should be a international private conclave to protect crypto against the sharks from the banks and governments.

If they print money to feed their short positions then we print tethers to feed our longs.

Problem solved. Fight fire with fire. Fuck all.

It sounds nice and it can be a partial remedy, but the situation is asymmetric. Not to say your point has no merit, but freshly minted tether needs to be backed by fiat. Is it? Is it not? FUD FUD. Inquiries. FUD FUD. Audits. Walking a thin line, with regulation possibly disrupting any tether based counter action. Central bank supported action, on the other hand, doesn't really need any backing to print more fiat.

It's a bit like swords against cannons. The swords have to be plenty, and the action has to be close as in a melee.

There is another asymmetry, though, in the favor of swords. Scarcity, as RayX12 and fabiorem, among others, just suggested. It's like having a sloping battleground, where the swords have the higher position. This limits cannon reach and makes it easier to have quick runs at the enemy firing the cannons.

It takes a lot of patience.



904. Post 33680926 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: fabiorem on April 01, 2018, 02:00:17 PM
If they print money to feed their short positions then we print tethers to feed our longs.

Problem solved. Fight fire with fire. Fuck all.


Thats why the exchanges need a conclave. They need to devise a plan to stop those sharks.
The exchanges feed on scraps from the sharks. Not gonna happen IMO.

Any realistic counter action should assume the exchanges are neutral (optimistic view) or hostile (more balanced view).



905. Post 33682547 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on April 01, 2018, 02:08:36 PM
What tells of manipulation is the weekend dumps. If one wants to get the most money for his coins he would not dump when fiat influx to exchanges is closed. But from now on the price is starting to become attractive for perspective buyers, and the more will be the more they crash it. Coins at $5K look like a 4X easy, at $3K a 7X, etc.

+1 WOsMerit

Sorry I'm paying you in alts, but I'm keeping my last precious sMerits for worthy newbies, juniors etc. Not for legends until I have a few more.  Tongue



906. Post 33682874 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: darenyu on April 01, 2018, 02:26:28 PM
Well it looks like we are are fucked.

Breaking news, the UK has stated they are going to ban cryptocurrency.

Source? The National Lampoon, April 1st edition?

The Pound Sterling is fucked as it is now anyway.



907. Post 33684456 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 02:35:33 PM
Why is it that  hardly anybody here other than myself and a couple of others will admit the show's over?
I know it's hard to accept but it's true.
Dark forces pushed it up to its heights  in order to be able to obliterate it.
Not just Bitcoin....all digital currencies.
You are seeing it with your own eyes but sill won't acknowledge it!
 Huh

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@supercrypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-price-suppression-is-the-goal

Broken record!



DEAR GOD!  Please allow me to take away point from fudsters!



Haiku for Tony

At $600 sold
His angry rants soon get old
Just a salted cod.

The linked article makes some sense, though, at least for me. I don't have to like the situation depicted there, but the author appears to have done some research and underpins the point with supporting (circumstantial) evidence. Preparing for different possible scenarios does not necessarily mean being a party pooper/fudster/shill/troll/whatever.



908. Post 33684663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 01, 2018, 02:44:16 PM
I guess last night was a bad time to tinker around with an online trading bot. It appears that I have now BTFD aka catching a falling knife.  Cry
On a positive note, my short at 25x on Bitmex is doing great. However, I only risked like .0016 BTC, so it's a whimpy hedge indeed. This is going to be a rough Easter/April fool's day. Hope we bounce off of some kind of support level, soon.

Happy Easter, Bones! Now for the hard part - when to exit?  Cheesy Don't stress yourself too much.



909. Post 33687226 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: fabiorem on April 01, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
Only now I noticed all these attributes at the left, under each nickname.

Are we in a RPG now?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3232693.0  Wink



910. Post 33687412 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on April 01, 2018, 03:08:37 PM
BTC RSI under 30.
You may want to buy now. Doubt it will go much lower. ;-)

Hourly, daily RSI or what timeframe?
I'd wait it out until Tuesday, don't like falling knives.
But maybe it's just what the bearwhales want, and they are playing me like a puppet.

My deep SOMA knowledge doesn't help ATM.



911. Post 33695314 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

I'd say don't trust these movements while fiat transfers are unavailable.
A whale isn't a bear or a bull. The most effective shakes are both down and up.



912. Post 33787794 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Globb0 on April 02, 2018, 01:35:30 PM
The polarity here and the unequivocal confidence that each party is 100% right, is amazing.

It's not the polarity, it's not the confidence. It's that on the interwebz, even gentlemen occasionally forgo their manners. Even gentlemen with unusually high Politeness scores, well over 2k.

Uh!? What happened to our neato stats?



913. Post 33788229 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 02, 2018, 06:51:14 PM
Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me 

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.
"bcash" lol

@V8 Tsk tsk ... distracted? Perhaps you didn't notice there's an unwavering minority that never gets this joke, no matter how many times one keeps reiterating it.

Quote from: Staged character swinging his head
Bcash lol, bcash lol, bcash lol! Ha!

Look better now, and note who's laughing and who isn't. Extra points if you manage to catch someone looking serious but trying hard not to laugh.



914. Post 33790448 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 02, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me  

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.
"bcash" lol

@V8 Tsk tsk ... distracted? Perhaps you didn't notice there's an unwavering minority that never gets this joke, no matter how many times one keeps reiterating it.

Quote from: Staged character swinging his head
Bcash lol, bcash lol, bcash lol! Ha!

Look better now, and note who's laughing and who isn't. Extra points if you manage to catch someone looking serious but trying hard not to laugh.
Verified account @CalvinAyre 19h19 hours ago

Segwit coin BTC is behaving as I expected...its still massively over valued though.  However the momentum of the naming fraud being perpetrated by Blockstream is stronger than I expected.  I am now revising my prediction on BCH being above 10 K to be year end.

Awwright, I promised.



915. Post 33881637 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 03, 2018, 03:26:58 PM
Roger, Craig Wright are walking ghosts living in their own fantasy world. Bcash is a dead man walking.

And if the exchanges can wash trade a dead coin like BCash up to $1000+, just think what they are doing to the price of all the other shitcoins out there?

<<Shudder>>.

yes !!! of course they do ! the goal of wash trades is to increase the volume. it's can be dangerous to handle the price with wash trades, however you will experience that they remove their bidds as soon as your transfer to hit them is cleared.

still, this segwit and other lightning, I bet, will be used to censor and ban certain actors (think assange or more generally all the enemies of the globalists) txs. this is a real problem. bcash attempts to solve this fear.
This segwit? The other lightning? Ah. I see. Censor Assange. Of course.
I'm envious. Can't find any of that good stuff anymore. Good for you.



916. Post 33881756 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 03, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
http://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/cryptocurrency-prices-today-april-3-bitcoin-ethereum-ripple-litecoin-2018-4-1020368886

This is (correction: was) JP Morgan's Blockchain Chief Executive.

Try not to laugh.

This waifish millennial couldn't "blockchain" her way out of a paper bag.

No wonder JP Morgan is going nowhere with crypto and blockchain.
but Molten Desmokeandmirrors says she's wonderful, dahling. https://twitter.com/Melt_Dem/status/980940397919776768
@Melt_Dem 19h19 hours ago

excited for @AmberBaldet to join the ranks of women running their own firms in #crypto land - she’s absolutely brilliant!
I doubt Amber is as young as she looks (haven't bothered to check, actually). Out of my ass, I reckon JPM wouldn't put a millennial in that position. Unless... a playground seat granted by a high-ranking mentor...? No. No. She's not hot, either. I'd pick Meltem over Amber any day, apparent age notwithstanding.



917. Post 33925306 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 04, 2018, 11:26:04 AM
This is what misery looks like.  Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.  Rosewater tried to jump off a bridge but couldn’t find it. JJG only wrote two paragraphs.  Bawb is too drunk to post today. Jimbo can’t find his teeth. Hairy lost a stop to a bull trap because he’s too dumb to put it above the line. Jojo got nostalgic for hockey riots. Elwar visited somewhere dangerous.  The trolls came out.    And a cartoon line is going into a cartoon dungeon.



I rather hope this is capitulation as y’all sure are cranky old men.

Come on, don't be so hard on all of us (and on yourself too)! You lost your stop? I guess you actually mean you only made a small profit rather than a bigger one. Next time remember - if your hedging short doesn't hurt a bit at times, you're probably being too conservative.

As for the others, there are different readings of the situation - uh ok well, maybe not for Rosewater  Grin

Tera has put away so much that she's unwilling to keep going through the emotional stress, at least for a while. JJG has been celebrating on one Piña too many, so he couldn't give a ratt's ass about building a few more walls of text. Bawb is celebrating too, so he took a break. Jimbo is hard as a rock, surviving jungle and dentists before he greets us all one fine morning. Jojo has always been a nice troublemaker guy, so what were you expecting? Elwar has been at it for a while. As for the trolls, it's just that we're bored with this slow bleeding phase - most of us have seen it all already - so we occasionally waste some time and energy feeding them a bit too much - even if the zoo is disseminated with signs warning visitors not to.

Capitulation? Maybe in due time. Not yet, however. All we can say to the Grim Reaper is "not today". Same with capitulation thoughts now.



918. Post 33928071 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Related ill sentiment news. Have you noticed the latest days? There's rumours Wall Street people are setting up a meeting to revise the well-known adage to

"Sell in March or you'll parch."



919. Post 33941432 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: mindrust on April 04, 2018, 05:55:37 PM
in this down days ... the situation is clear ... anyone manipulate the btc value.... who? (this is not a question of bulla vs bears or whales....) if a big Istitution can try to kill btc??

yeah they do... their sex pets must always at all costs accept those little pieces of papers they can print at will...

anyway, I read a lot about the venezulians bitcoiners... what about the iranians? SCO security and safety from the globalists roaches + cheap and plentiful nat gaz... sun, gravity... I mean... the next china?

can they produce a decent hasher?

Bitmain gets the most benefit from these low prices.

Jihan's demon hole has infinite number of ASIC miners so he has absolute control over the network. He is just manipulating the prices to drive out his recent competitor Halong. Halong is a newer player and don't have a big capital as bitmain so Bitmain hopes halong will eventually go bankrupt just like other European companies did. (like KNC)

If Halong doesn't die soon, we can expect even lower prices. Good for us for having cheap coins, bad for us in the long term because Halong has almost zero chances to win this game.

That's my guess.
An interesting take. The BCH ship is sinking fast, so Dr. Wu turns to other feats.

One reason why I find your guess unlikely is that IMO when Halong embarked on this endeavor, they couldn't possibly ignore the ensuing battle and its perils. So I guess their pockets are deep enough to wait out for the markets to get back to rational before their firm gets insolvent.



920. Post 33951591 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 04, 2018, 08:49:03 PM
Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.

That's why I advocate 2-factor authentication all the way.



921. Post 33952226 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 04, 2018, 09:04:19 PM
Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.

That's why I advocate 2-factor authentication all the way.

If you solve lightning, then you solve the hard log problem.

Hard log problem very easy solving. Is many hard logs in Wales. You go Wales bring good timber ax, maybe 2 (1 for bakup), make many hard good logs. Problem solve. But careful! Becase Wales full very badman, as gentlman V8 say.



922. Post 33953189 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Related sentiment news.

DJIA +0.96, S&P500 +1.16, NASDAQ +1.45.

Influential Wall Street people in a closed invitation-only meeting voted against tweaking the well-known old adage. No replacement, no March, May stays. For the time being. Thanks to the Plunge Protection Team.



923. Post 34124272 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 06, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
With apologies, well, to all, we were riffing last night on what the Linnaean classification for certain terms might be.
Things are somewhat hazy, but I remember thus far

Capitulator ad ursos - weak hand
Adsiduus ad bellos - taxpayer
Emptor fomoensis - noob investor
Anima elota - rekt
Ferox tenator - hodler

May I add, singing along the same score,

Fautor sepum - hedger
Fautor neapecuniarum - shitcoin shill
Fautor tremens - very scared ("shitting bricks") bull
Fautor prudens - somewhat wary ("ginger") bull
Fautor tribuspictus - calico bull

Hm, ok, maybe the last one was a bit over the top.




924. Post 34176912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 07, 2018, 04:43:11 PM
very quick short list  for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only  when breaking 12288 dollar price.....  almost same rules as the list before just a winning date AND
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              .15 BTC for correct date
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              only accounts with minimum 5 Merit and 20 activity (last time to many new pop't up Roll Eyes  )
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LIST CLOSES tuesday 12 CET allways CET time  no execptions
just for quick enjoyment

normal tommorrow i look @the dates.... firts one posted has the choosen date , some one with the same date have too take another one so look out a bit....
DATES sended in PERSONAL MESSAGE will    NOT count

let us break back 5-digits
Oh yeah - micgoossens and his games! Smells like bulls from far away...?

I pick

June 15 2018.

I think it's not taken. If it's taken, I'd pick the closest available following day  (16, 17, ...)

THANK YOU MIC!  Grin



925. Post 34177051 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on April 07, 2018, 04:38:17 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland. Back in the frozen north.

I see we're back up over $7k... currently $7044USD/$9010CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

I wish spring would hurry up, both for the Toronto weather and for the price of Bitcoin.

I left for Mexico during a snowstorm in mid-March and arrived back last night to freezing temperatures. Winter is starting to get as tedious as 4-digit Bitcoin prices.
____

Finally got my temporary dentures 3 hours before hopping on the plane and they'll take some getting used to. They feel like I have a mouthful of plastic. Halfway though my flight back I had to take them out.

They look good when they're in though. I'd almost forgotten how to grin. I'm sure I'll get used to them fairly soon but I'll still have to wait a couple more weeks before I can start chewing with them.

By next year they'll just be an unpleasant memory when I have solid zirconia teeth anchored securely in my skull. Being a Bitcoin holder definitely teaches you patience with optimism.

Thank you Bitcoin for my lovely new teeth and winter estate in sunny Mexico. Go Bitcoin go.
Good to hear you're rolling as usual. Hard as a rock!

You've been missed, Jimbo. Of course we're all rational guys and all (well, most of us anyway), but "Good morning bitcoinland" messages disappearing from our discussion and an unpleasant red area appearing in the charts couldn't go unnoticed. After some exercise, looking for correlations becomes second natures, so some rationalities are being gently swayed. You are positive you have nothing to do with it, right?



926. Post 34183355 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 07, 2018, 10:51:02 PM
Masterluc:

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Here such a promising bull wedge on daytime drew ... If it works, there will be a double bottom. In general, there may be some bullish move in the short term with the prospect of escalation.

(chart snipped)

I’m going to quote Tera and complain that the bottom line doesn’t line up nice with anything.

Indeed, Masterluc's magic only works in the medium-long term. We've all seen his short term predictions get a little off.



927. Post 34183999 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 07, 2018, 11:05:07 PM
Eclair wallet removed. Dev lost the signing key to update the ap....  Slightly embarrassing

https://twitter.com/acinq_co/status/982749520202215424?s=21

No big deal. Eclair or not eclair, you have to solve some very very hard (NP, even!) traveling salesman stuff to find a path through the LN. Or at least that's what Satoshi said. Right? (No, not that Satoshi. I mean the con artist Satoshi, you know, the jerk?)
/s

Of course your money is on the skinny guy.



928. Post 34184198 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 07, 2018, 11:28:20 PM
Why do you even need a traveling salesman if you have the internet?  Everyone just does online shopping.
It's old stuff, actually. Computer stuff, I think, but they figured these useless complicated things before Amazon. Now there's obviously no need.



929. Post 34184348 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 07, 2018, 09:38:49 PM
my money's on the skinny Russian kid

Oops, it was Jojo's money, not Hairy's. Sorry for the mixup.

I'm far from being a fan, but my money's on the skinny one too, FWIW.



930. Post 34218903 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: ivomm on April 08, 2018, 12:05:00 PM
$12288 game - it's gonna be 11th June. Smiley

Bitcoin trying to gain resistance support strength at ~$6900 right now.

Fixed for you. Btw, this is the first Sunday we actually see a little upward move instead of the dumps we are used to in the last months. Happy (protestant) Easter all! As someone posted before, if Jesus can do it, so do BTC!  Grin

Actually, I think we had another green weekend recently. Just a small thing in the general wasteland.

However, I think it's all a bit of a show. No real meaning to it right now. The numbers (volume) just aren't there yet, and we're being inundated with FOMOish news.

A good deal of care is advisable. There might be a sudden, violent mid-of-week dump for all we know. That would be more unexpected than the usual weekend move, therefore more fruitful for the actor doing it. My gut tells me we aren't done with the shakes yet.

Now if the month-long triangle goes on (higher lows, lower highs), maybe we might be on to something in late April/May, when people on the stock market traditionally lick their wounds.

The previous paragraph is a SOMA Analytics guaranteed forecast! Enjoy!

Straight Off My Ass Analytics(TM) - Almost always wrong, almost all the time!



931. Post 34254585 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 08, 2018, 09:14:04 PM
Re the wall, I am pondering whether the tax due date is a buy the rumor sell the news sort of thing.  

Not many folks buying the rumor though.



932. Post 34259409 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Recently, fiat settled derivatives are one of my pet worries. There is no proof that they actually did much real damage by themselves yet: some reasonable sounding opinions argue that it's more of a psychological thing, like metaFUD/metaFOMO. These opinions sound reasonable on the basis of the numbers reported. Volume on futures was - is! - too low to harm seriously (although, with the underlying bitcoin market as thin as it is now, nothing is impossible).

However, if Soros and other big players are really getting into the cornfield, it's going to be tough play. I really hope the SEC approves some ETF, but backed by actual bitcoin, stored in blockchain addresses known to the public.

Along the same lines, futures and similar derivatives should be entirely bitcoin-backed. "For delivery", as they say, since delivering bitcoin is as easy as can be. BY doing so, you can push and pull the market only according to how many coins - not dollars - you hold. You can probably push/pull a bit further than that, because exchanges are quick to kiss the right ass, but when you finally have to deliver, you have to buy or sell actual bitcoin. Let the markets (and the unavoidable slippage) do the rest.



933. Post 34286729 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

How unexpected! A plunge on Monday. I'd have thought it wouldn't happen before, say, tomorrow or better yet Wednesday.



934. Post 34286851 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: rafanadal on April 09, 2018, 10:25:14 AM
The only way is down now
no chance we are reaching 8k for a very long time.

The way I see it, in this particular moment it's very hard to name a "no chance" event.



935. Post 34288505 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 09, 2018, 12:58:43 AM
The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf
The authors don't detail much experimental evidence about their new taint model (basically FIFO accounting for taint), but they do offer a couple of numbers which, if supported by more testing, would be quite impressive. At any rate, there's ample food for thought.

If the legislative landscape they hint at really comes into being, I don't know where I'd stand on the line between "hard" and "soft" approaches. Bitcoin enthusiasts? Investors? Law enforcement? All of these positions would entail both "good" and "bad" practical consequences from my self-interested point of view.

Nice piece of work. Computer scientists discussing legal implications with a practical, technically sound background. A rarity.

Tasty find merited.




936. Post 34289829 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: kurious on April 09, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
The only way is down now
no chance we are reaching 8k for a very long time.

The way I see it, in this particular moment it's very hard to name a "no chance" event.

Merited. Wise words.  While catching up on this thread gradually you see how unwise and price prediction in any direction is, on any near/medium term time frame.

TA / price analysis is fun to see, but so much of it is as accurate as a stopped clock, as all we can do is to try to set up for whatever happens.  I was watching your 'short insurance' strategy, seemed to make sense - may I ask how it has panned out?  Or is it just too much work to keep on top of it?

Thanks for the appreciation.

My insurance is doing fine! With today's dip, I'm comfortably in the money. With the latest fluctuations, I'd already managed to nurse it to a higher entry point with incidental small profit. My aim isn't maximum profit, but maximum comfort, as JayJuanGee said. This makes it a little easier, but it's still hard work for me. Of course there's a different "hard work" threshold for each one of us. With the position moving to a higher entry point, the amount of work decreases.

However, if it doesn't hurt at times, I feel I'm doing it wrong. It's supposed to hurt a little now and then, unless you're magically able to spot either tops or bottoms (which would make hedging moot anyway).

I'm not closing it yet. Bring it down to 5k or 3k, will you? Please??  Tongue

I've also worked out a "pain threshold" in advance. That's where I'll close the insurance hedge (at a loss) before liquidation if I don't manage to close gradually on the way up while still in the money. The numbers are good: by the time we reach that threshold, it will be Carolina Train time around here.

That's just my play money, of course. If it was my stash at stake, I wouldn't be so detached or cool headed in making difficult decisions.



937. Post 34293706 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Colonel Panic on April 09, 2018, 11:59:41 AM
The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf
The authors don't detail much experimental evidence about their new taint model (basically FIFO accounting for taint), but they do offer a couple of numbers which, if supported by more testing, would be quite impressive. At any rate, there's ample food for thought.

If the legislative landscape they hint at really comes into being, I don't know where I'd stand on the line between "hard" and "soft" approaches. Bitcoin enthusiasts? Investors? Law enforcement? All of these positions would entail both "good" and "bad" practical consequences from my self-interested point of view.

Nice piece of work. Computer scientists discussing legal implications with a practical, technically sound background. A rarity.

Tasty find merited.

One of the problems with such a 'taint' system that it doesn't address, is what of coins falsely declared stolen? In the paper they seem to assume all such declarations to be honest, but in practice it just moves the arguments to the lawyer-enriching 'how to get these coins declared stolen or not' level.

Hm, I hadn't thought of that.

Can you name a scenario where the game of falsely reporting a crime ("someone stole my coins!") has a positive probabilistic sum? Penalties can be harsh, and partners in crime won't be happy to see their newly tainted coins decrease in value.



938. Post 34300335 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Colonel Panic on April 09, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf
The authors don't detail much experimental evidence about their new taint model (basically FIFO accounting for taint), but they do offer a couple of numbers which, if supported by more testing, would be quite impressive. At any rate, there's ample food for thought.

If the legislative landscape they hint at really comes into being, I don't know where I'd stand on the line between "hard" and "soft" approaches. Bitcoin enthusiasts? Investors? Law enforcement? All of these positions would entail both "good" and "bad" practical consequences from my self-interested point of view.

Nice piece of work. Computer scientists discussing legal implications with a practical, technically sound background. A rarity.

Tasty find merited.

One of the problems with such a 'taint' system that it doesn't address, is what of coins falsely declared stolen? In the paper they seem to assume all such declarations to be honest, but in practice it just moves the arguments to the lawyer-enriching 'how to get these coins declared stolen or not' level.


Hm, I hadn't thought of that.

Can you name a scenario where the game of falsely reporting a crime ("someone stole my coins!") has a positive probabilistic sum? Penalties can be harsh, and partners in crime won't be happy to see their newly tainted coins decrease in value.


Just look at the endless similar scenarios in day-to-day business, deals that go wrong, counterparties accused of all sorts variations of theft, bad faith, lies, non-delivery etc, even in the strong legal cultures of the first world. Let alone what goes on in places like Russia or parts of Africa.

Just make an example, please. I still don't follow you. Remember, once a coin is successfully disputed, it is tainted. This is not always desirable. Furthermore, if they bust you bullshitting the system, it's trouble that goes beyond losing some coin.

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No, write access to 'the list' of in-dispute coins would very soon become the salient issue. And who could dispute cleanliness? Only the immediate previous owner? Or how owners many back? Or not directly involved parties as well? Me? You? Pretty soon everything could be 'tainted', and thus nothing would be.
With LIFO tainting, there's no taint spread. WHICH addresses get tainted might be arbitrary in some cases (coin mixers/tumblers, especially).

I'm thinking how this would work in a world where LN has taken hold. LN is a bit of a tumbler in itself. Once a coin reaches, say, Amazon or Starbucks... who takes the hit when the taint hits the fan and some customers rightly complain? They haven't considered this - or maybe that paper is pre-LN, I haven't checked the date.

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I think the only way Bitcoin can work longterm is as a bearer instrument: you possess it, you own it. In fact, I think this - (Roger notwithstanding) - is the key "cash" part of the "peer-to-peer cash" description.

In that paper, this is called the "bitcoin enthusiast" (or supporter?) position.



939. Post 34340854 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 10, 2018, 02:51:47 AM
Is it possible for you to have established partial closiong targets?  For example, four of them, or some other comfortable quantity:  1) at $6,200, 2) at $5,200, 3) at $4,200 and 4) at $3,200.

Entirely. I do have partial close orders sprinkled - you guessed it - along a ladder. The lowest, most profitable, is well above 3200 for now, but I hope that by the time we get to that, I'll be profiting already and perhaps the ladder will be exhausted.


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I really don't believe that it is very likely that your $3,200-ish one would close,

Right. That's if we get to that, which I also doubt.

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Do you have a better way of framing your tentative ongoing correction strategy, at this time?
I'm nursing my hedge to  as high an entry point as I can. My loose guidance: I'm trying to keep approximately fixed hypothetical profit at, say, 5k or 4.5k. This can be done with a smaller position as long as the entry is better (higher). So I make the position smaller by closing partially when in the money, waiting for another climb to average up, so that when it gets down in the money again, I can release (cash out) a little more than in the previous cycle. All this goes by small increments, small sums. The idea is not to be found flat when it really plunges, and be ready to release with some predetermined stop when the pain becomes unbearable.

(When/if are used interchangeably. It's the same thing. I don't know. I don't care.)



940. Post 34342500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

It was Rosewater who brought the topic into this arena of gentlemen.

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 09, 2018, 12:58:43 AM
The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf

The taint paper has stirred several reactions.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 09, 2018, 02:51:05 PM
tasty find my arse Grin
Hm, by the refined language, I sense a fellow Oxford scholar?  Tongue

Seriously, I don't see the paper as advocating anything in particular. If it actually is, I didn't notice or I deem the advocacy irrelevant. The strength of that discussion is the what-if speculation it suggests. It is assumed that the public Taintchain is a reality. The Taintchain makes it effectively instant to look up taint, which is distributed in a strict LIFO fashion. This sounds as a prescription (advocating), but I hear a scientific stance. "It's a precise working hypothesis with good effects on the engineering," it sounds to me. The Taintchain can actually become real today, once the blockchain is scanned to create a different view of the transaction database. Keeping the Taintchain current is a trivial matter.

Under these assumptions, there are interesting consequences. Different administrations will be interested in tracking different events. And they will each be able to do that in a much easier way than today. And anyone else can do the same, too. The algorithm is there. How long before an open source solution allows you to track any taintchain known to man, as well as hypothetical ones defined by the user's ow custom rules? I think this ease of implementation makes it likely that it will get done.

Now, initiating taint on a whim or on user action can be a daunting task for a public administration, but limiting the initial " taint award" to only a few well-known events (like, Mt.Gox size only - either finance-wise or  by media resonance) is completely doable. As is picking your own pet taint-generating events.

No one has to like that. I don't know if I would myself. But it's a realistic possibility in, say, China for export controls. See the what-if? Chinese taint wouldn't mean much in the USA, right? Or wouldn't it?

Food for thought.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 09, 2018, 02:12:19 PM
Reporting doesn’t need to be false to be damaging.
A sends coins to exchange and sells, withdrawing different coins.  B truthfully claims that A stole the coins and sues exchange for value of the coins.  Exchange is liable to compensate B.  
Possible limits to exchange liability are also vaguely hypothesized, but it's lawyer stuff, so the authors - computer scientists, remember - don't toy with the idea too much. They appear to be fascinated by the game theoretical implications. I also am.

Quote from: Colonel Panic on April 09, 2018, 02:42:28 PM
You say "successfully disputed", I say that "successfully" involves a new layer of lawyers.

You say "they bust you bullshitting the system, its trouble..." I say "ho ho, Deripaska, Zuma..."
Or maybe it's no trouble at all. Your claim is simply ignored because it didn't make it to the master list of scams. It's not even 1/100,000 of Gox size after all. Or maybe someone snitches on you, dealing in drugs or military technology or whatever. One address paying you gets leaked. What happens to your coins? Which countries are involved? Which exchange did the coins pass through?

A paper that gets me thinking along these lines must be a good paper under some definition of good.

Nice find my ass, my ass
As we say in Oxford after class.



941. Post 34342773 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

^^ TROLL BAIT  Angry

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 10, 2018, 04:11:31 AM
I'm just going to leave this one here for the bugman to sort out. Grin
http://vixra.org/pdf/1501.0021v1.pdf



942. Post 34379484 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 10, 2018, 08:28:44 AM
(snip)

Hm, by the refined language, I sense a fellow Oxford scholar?  Tongue
blah blah blah
A paper that gets me thinking along these lines must be a good paper under some definition of good.
Nice find my ass, my ass
As we say in Oxford after class.

Dear, dear Ed, Read the effing thread.
Rosewater was making a pass
At my sweet, sweet arse.

Ah I see! I thought you were poking some fun at me, and I couldn't abstain from an Oxfordian retort ;-)



943. Post 34380092 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Sorry V8, too much noise, oversights are unavoidable.



944. Post 34393866 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 10, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
Or maybe it's no trouble at all. Your claim is simply ignored because it didn't make it to the master list of scams.

Huh In a decentralized system, there can be no master list of anything. Or rather, if there is a master list, the system is by definition not decentralized.

For my part, I'm not ready to give that principle up.
Neither am I. It's just a hypothesis about how government/institutions would react if this technology were available. The speculation is not sterile, since it may become available any day, if there is enought interest. Not necessarily interest in this community.



945. Post 34394034 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 10, 2018, 04:03:20 PM


  lol
Looks like she knows he way around a mic!

... or two.



946. Post 34457003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Alexander_Z on April 11, 2018, 10:05:22 AM
We have a couple of weeks of dead cat bounce before the final capitulation Cheesy

The cat is not dead, it is unconscious. Got a very serious concussion from falling, but it will be OK... eventually Smiley

Was it from falling, or from that prolonged squawk?



947. Post 34463014 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: infofront on April 11, 2018, 02:30:15 PM


What the hell? Wall observation in this thread?!

On topic is the new off topic, didn't you know?
Just don't tell the moderator ;-)



948. Post 34873616 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

I've been away for a few days. Getting up to date with this is ridiculous. I'm still 37 pages in the red. Makes me want to run and hide in a cupboard or something.

It seems I missed some very interesting OT stuff.



949. Post 34885319 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: becoin on April 15, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
With all of this in mind Blue Frontiers decided to go with an actual currency to be used on the seasteads and be the only currency the company would accept for payment for anything on the seasteads

That's very disappointing! It defeats the very foundation of the project as it creates just another territory with their own currency. A "legal tender" and the only way you can pay your taxes to local authorities. How is that different to every other country manipulating their domestic currency to "optimally" rob their own citizens?


I guess there will be exchanges, exchange rates, fees. I'm sure it will be possible to buy a few varyons even from the mainland. On board for sure, at more cost. If you live at sea, then of course they're more useful. Yes, I see your point, becoin. But isn't the concept of a community currency legitimate? A fat stash of it implies a stake in some man-made quasi-island, so what? It might give actual use case value to varyon (XBTVRY stable) - uncommon for a new coin. Hm, which in turn also implies enforcement of money laws of some kind. Tough, eh? Well, as long as the single 'steaders can accept any kind of money they like, it's only fair that the admins get to choose, too. Or is it? I don't have a clue.

Elwar? Did I get the VRY ticker right? :-P



950. Post 34885599 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 16, 2018, 02:11:47 AM
Blockchain does suck. The only real use is to avoid any kind of trust in a centralized authority. In the real world there are much better databases.

but people = shit

soooooooo
Can't merit both for budget reasons. Picking the one where it makes more of a difference Wink



951. Post 34885689 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2018, 02:48:07 AM
My hope, however, is that most of the governance will be blockchain based. As much as possible over time.
I mentioned the admins having the right to a choice a few posts back. Would PoS in the community coin be a viable voting metric at least for some matters? Has any thought gone into it yet? Interesting stuff indeed.



952. Post 34885893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 16, 2018, 12:02:07 AM
https://twitter.com/LeahWald1/status/985665491325804545
The Bitcoin Jig ?? ?? While in North Carolina last week with best friends, we sat around a bonfire ?? picked up our banjos, and wrote a song for the love of #Bitcoin
smash that like button
At the cost of repeating myself, you have some taste. I mean for fun music. All my likes are granted.



953. Post 34971040 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Come on, someone post some classic TA, please. This kind of OT is distracting, irritating and plain disgusting.



954. Post 34995674 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 18, 2018, 10:39:41 AM
Dungeon averted?


Some classic TA at last. Thank you, Hairy.



955. Post 34996879 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

What do we mean when we talk about race? Genetics, culture or a combination? Is it possible to quantify the nature/nurture relevance ratio? How about a child born from a black and a Jew, raised in Asia by a foster family? Which "race" do they get stamped on their Interwebz passport?


Quote from: Ibian on April 18, 2018, 07:34:15 AM
Come on, someone post some classic TA, please. This kind of OT is distracting, irritating and plain disgusting.
Didn't you mention not too long ago that you had met tribal people, that they were different from us, and that it was fascinating?
I think you refer to my words about nomads. They weren't tribal nomads actually, but yes they have a different, lighter stance towards life. It's the culture that's different. Different from me, I mean. I don't know about you, let alone about "us". Us bitcoiners? Us participants in the WO thread? Are you assuming I'm a thoroughbred Caucasian male? I could be ((( d_eddie ))) for all you know, or half-asian (Thai mom), or black or Inuit - well, I admit the latter's unlikely, but I could be. I guess you see what I mean.


Quote
Reality is what it is. Being disgusted with reality is needlessly limiting.
I'm not disgusted with reality. I'm disgusted with tireless back and forth drilling of the same old stuff by the few that care about it, to the detriment of the silent majority who doesn't mind a nice OT, but couldn't give fewer fucks about racist (un)subtleties than an annoyed honey badger.



956. Post 34997480 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 18, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
Some classic TA at last. Thank you, Hairy.

Good Lord this is a tough crowd tonight (this morning ?)

Fine. Here's some more TA. We've exited the Inverse Bart.



Fucking happy now ?!??!??
Thank you too for some more (contemporary) TA. It wasn't actually needed, though. Your OT's about brick-based testicle training are among the best for me anyway. Or your curt invitations to remove undesired clutter from your no-sun-shining-here areas.



957. Post 34997622 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 18, 2018, 12:00:14 PM
What do we mean when we talk about race? Genetics, culture or a combination? Is it possible to quantify the nature/nurture relevance ratio? How about a child born from a black and a Jew, raised in Asia by a foster family? Which "race" do they get stamped on their Interwebz passport?
Culture results from genetics and environment. So, all of them. Yes. That kid is fucked. Also show me one instance in the entire world of that particular combination, just for kicks.
It's like an Inuit posting here. Theoretically possible.  Tongue



958. Post 35274909 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on April 21, 2018, 02:04:50 AM
everyone be enjoying their 4/20 high? ... never fails to deliver, mmm but maybe a bad trip for the shorts but oh well.
I actually celebrated without realizing it. Well, after the fact I did. I almost never partake, if not as a social sign of approval. But on 4/20 night I deliberately prepared a mini, just for myself. I knew my company wouldn't want to join the jointment. Getting her to even drink something reasonable was already a small feat in itself. So why would I want a miniJ in such company? Now I see. Unplanned, legitimate celebration.



959. Post 35275012 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Anon136 on April 21, 2018, 04:30:51 AM
So really all I know is that they intended to "scale" by increasing the blocksize. ... Has anything changed? Are they proposing realistic alternatives to lightning for scaling? Are there new developments that I should be aware of?
0 confirmation transactions. No, seriously - that's the amazing and innovative feature bcash has implemented to try to compete with lightning.

What, did they get some sort of commitment from a federation of miners/pools that when they receive conflicting transactions in their mempool they will mine the one they encountered first rather than the one with the larger fee? That could be done with like 2 lines of code. If it's more interesting than that than I will go do some research.
You mean disabling replace by fee?



960. Post 35275454 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 22, 2018, 12:31:37 AM
So really all I know is that they intended to "scale" by increasing the blocksize. ... Has anything changed? Are they proposing realistic alternatives to lightning for scaling? Are there new developments that I should be aware of?
0 confirmation transactions. No, seriously - that's the amazing and innovative feature bcash has implemented to try to compete with lightning.

What, did they get some sort of commitment from a federation of miners/pools that when they receive conflicting transactions in their mempool they will mine the one they encountered first rather than the one with the larger fee? That could be done with like 2 lines of code. If it's more interesting than that than I will go do some research.
You mean disabling replace by fee?

Does that mean all I have to do to double spend is send the funds to myself seconds before I send them to the victim?
If the protocol is first transaction gets blockspace, the victim's transaction won't find its way into a block. Double spend will fail, but legitimate RBF transactions could be impossible.



961. Post 35275494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 22, 2018, 12:32:55 AM

meh. weak reddit share is weak. need to find out where v8 is harvesting his materials.
Hard to beat at scouting, and for good taste. We're growing the next legends here. Tongue



962. Post 35275762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 22, 2018, 12:54:51 AM
So really all I know is that they intended to "scale" by increasing the blocksize. ... Has anything changed? Are they proposing realistic alternatives to lightning for scaling? Are there new developments that I should be aware of?
0 confirmation transactions. No, seriously - that's the amazing and innovative feature bcash has implemented to try to compete with lightning.

What, did they get some sort of commitment from a federation of miners/pools that when they receive conflicting transactions in their mempool they will mine the one they encountered first rather than the one with the larger fee? That could be done with like 2 lines of code. If it's more interesting than that than I will go do some research.
You mean disabling replace by fee?

Does that mean all I have to do to double spend is send the funds to myself seconds before I send them to the victim?
If the protocol is first transaction gets blockspace, the victim's transaction won't find its way into a block. Double spend will fail, but legitimate RBF transactions could be impossible.

But if the victim is accepting 0 conf, then the attack will likely succeed unless the victims node is particularly well connected
(EDIT 2 the following for accuracy/factual accurateness.)

With 0 conf, full nodes have to cache transactions since the latest block and stop propagating newer conflicting ones. For the attack to work, the cheater's transaction must already have been submitted before the victim's after all. As long as the network doesn't selectively hide information from certain nodes, cheating this way will fail.

(EDIT 1: as long as 0 conf implies "earlier tx gets blockspace" rule.)

Any fault in my reasoning? Syke? Experts?




963. Post 35398367 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Torque on April 23, 2018, 02:52:37 PM

WTAF? They've lost their marbles, and the justification is complete nonsense. "It's so valuable that we burn it!"
It's to reward the holders, right?


Quote
Also I'm guessing the supposed black hole address in question is of the "no-really-trust-us-we-don't-have-the-private-key" variety?
You beat me to it, ehehe  Wink



964. Post 35415027 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 23, 2018, 06:42:28 PM
any mining pools using lightning? would that work?

It would work great.  For payouts?  Lines directly to exchanges...

In fact I would predict we see the first "industrial" sorts of channels going up for those scenarios.
One problem I see is that these channels would be unidirectional, in the sense of hard to balance out, unless I'm missing something about this use case. Besides, maximum channel capacity is still seriously limited to "pocket change" amounts (that's on purpose, for safety), so LN won't be terribly useful for payouts until the limits are raised.



965. Post 35427428 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

"Beat me to it" quotes of the day (Torque was first). Here go my last merits.

Quote from: bitserve on April 23, 2018, 09:08:34 PM
Oh well, I think jbreher is worth talking to sometimes... JUST-DON'T-EVER-MENTION-BCASH-TO-HIM. *THAT*'s not worth it. Never forget that rule and everything will be fine.
That's his... uhm, religion. Apart from that handicap, discussions with jbreher are mostly fine.

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 23, 2018, 09:29:55 PM
Removal of the 21M cap: soon!
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to provide even the slightest shred of evidence for your absurd assertion?
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to quit calling Bitcoin "Bitcoin Segwit"?

Word. This also really helps gears grind here, so to say. It's like it's my own religion.

TLDR; jbreher, you're a much more varied read than other thread heretics. Don't hurt people's religious feelings with unkornly utterances, and I promise I won't feed the troll in you. Gonna try, with a little help from my frieh-eh-eh-eh eh-ehh.





966. Post 35429271 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 23, 2018, 11:24:16 PM
"Beat me to it" quotes of the day (Torque was first). Here go my last merits.

Oh well, I think jbreher is worth talking to sometimes... JUST-DON'T-EVER-MENTION-BCASH-TO-HIM. *THAT*'s not worth it. Never forget that rule and everything will be fine.
That's his... uhm, religion. Apart from that handicap, discussions with jbreher are mostly fine.
It's a pretty big fucking handicap. Might as well try getting away with saying that apart from wanting to kill us all, muslims are pretty decent people.
Yes, yes, it's the same.



967. Post 35429572 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Anon136_miscellany
(snip)
Shocked Do you really think I'm a troll?

If you're not then why are you appearing to troll?
(snip bona fide explanation)
"Thank you for the explanation!"
"Hairy... insightful!"
"Me... not above trolling... once or twice in my life... dash thread."


Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 23, 2018, 11:08:50 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg34306588#msg34306588
such a reasonable dude
Anon136, a legend with 49/470 merit earned against 203/414. Over 4 times as much. Theymos's new ranking system indeed provides more useful information than the old. And prompt scouting is available, anyway.

Hey, mighty Theymos, do you hear us? We need more statistics, like "Imagination", "Magic Dust" or "Emep", which might stand for "Earned Merit per Eligible Post (ratio)".



968. Post 35430216 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 23, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
Zeroconf is not built atop 'trust Wu, Ver and Wright'. It is built atop 'we don't have overwhelming tx backlog that makes doublespends hard to detect'.

without a backlog, it's still batshit crazy to accept 0-conf. people have double spent against both bitpay and coinbase; peter todd did it publicly once. if you close out the invoice before confirmation, there's nothing stopping the consumer from pushing a higher-fee transaction using the same inputs.

the "tx backlog" really seems like a red herring. 0-conf has an inherently weaker trust model. satoshi acknowledged this:
As you figured out, the root problem is we shouldn't be counting or spending transactions until they have at least 1 confirmation.  0/unconfirmed transactions are very much second class citizens.  At most, they are advice that something has been received, but counting them as balance or spending them is premature.

accepting 0-conf transactions doesn't mean trusting "Wu, Ver and Wright".....it means trusting the payor not to steal back his money from you.

+1 WOSmerit

Summarizing: with a tx backlog (I inexactly called it "cache") it's probably doable, but it's a shit solution anyway. If I could vote for 0-conf or RBF as a feature, I'd pick RBF anyway.



969. Post 35430725 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 24, 2018, 12:08:49 AM
(snip)
Anon136, a legend with 49/470 merit earned against 203/414. Over 4 times as much. Theymos's new ranking system indeed provides more useful information than the old. And prompt scouting is available, anyway.

Hey, mighty Theymos, do you hear us? We need more statistics, like "Imagination", "Magic Dust" or "Emep", which might stand for "Earned Merit per Eligible Post (ratio)".
What's your denominator there? EMEP's 'per eligible post' might maybe be better.
Per post again - like acceleration vs speed?

Maybe by "Eligible post" I meant "Activity since the Merit System" rather than "Actual posts since the Merit System". The second quantity isn't available anyway. I haven't refined the idea too much, actually. I might get lucky in Meta (I threw it there, too).

Thanks for the bug hunting.



970. Post 35430789 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 24, 2018, 12:12:55 AM
If I could vote for 0-conf or RBF as a feature, I'd pick RBF anyway.

You realize, of course, that RBF _requires_ persistently full blocks in order to work reliably, right?

Jus' make'em blocks smaller if you really care for RBF, then!

Oops. Redneck in me. We start sliding, man. Sorry. Let's keep it here, we ain't gonna vote on this anyway.
With a little help from my freh-eh.



971. Post 35436378 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Anon136 on April 24, 2018, 01:37:17 AM
I try really hard to be. Part of being reasonable means accepting hard truths sometimes.


Anon136, a legend with 49/470 merit earned against 203/414. Over 4 times as much. Theymos's new ranking system indeed provides more useful information than the old. And prompt scouting is available, anyway.

Hey, mighty Theymos, do you hear us? We need more statistics, like "Imagination", "Magic Dust" or "Emep", which might stand for "Earned Merit per Eligible Post (ratio)".
Where the heck are you finding these stats? On my end it says I have 1049 merit. I didn't realize I was in some sort of competition with anyone anyway. I definitely never gloated about my merit or tried to use it to argue from authority or anything like that. So I don't know where all this is coming from. I don't think your scheme would work very well anyway because the best way to get merit is to tell people what ever they want to hear. I think you would find that the people who filtered to the top of your system were the people who stroked everyone off the best.
Sorry if I came across a bit rude. Merit tends to approximate a popularity contest anyway, even without my somewhat more convoluted exclusion of old rank based merit. And yes, you're right it's easier to merit those you agree with. No one dimensional metric system is perfect. But pleasing just everyone is probably just as difficult, so even such crude measures do have some, uh, merit.



972. Post 35439548 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Anon136 on April 24, 2018, 04:39:41 AM
Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin.
This is the least complicated thing ever. Roll Eyes

Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid.

In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other.
Adding any kind of qualifier after "bitcoin" to mean BTC/XBT is unpopular round here. OK, call it religion if you will. In order to minimize conflict, it is advised to use BTC to designate the bitcoin that needs no additional words to be designated. There will be fewer terminological scuffles.



973. Post 35467617 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 24, 2018, 12:20:39 AM
(snip)
(snip), a legend with 49/470 merit earned against 203/414. Over 4 times as much. Theymos's new ranking system indeed provides more useful information than the old. And prompt scouting is available, anyway.

Hey, mighty Theymos, do you hear us? We need more statistics, like "Imagination", "Magic Dust" or "Emep", which might stand for "Earned Merit per Eligible Post (ratio)".
What's your denominator there? EMEP's 'per eligible post' might maybe be better.
Maybe by "Eligible post" I meant "Activity since the Merit System" rather than "Actual posts since the Merit System". The second quantity isn't available anyway. I haven't refined the idea too much, actually. I might get lucky in Meta (I threw it there, too).
Thanks for the bug hunting.

I did get lucky in the Meta thread. Theymos replied and he's open to suggestions. No promises, but an explicit formula with few inputs is preferred.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3380469.msg35435886#msg35435886



974. Post 35468284 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: Anon136 on April 24, 2018, 05:11:27 AM
Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.



975. Post 35512512 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 24, 2018, 10:26:06 PM


EDIT: Holy crap. I just recognized I've attained Legendary status. I spend waaaay too much time here...  Wink
Congrats!!
Now maybe you should celebrate by getting yourself some new testicle training blocks in granite, with a custom engraved monogram. Those gold blocks are too soft.



976. Post 35540427 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: smartcomet on April 25, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x2d6a7b0f6adeff38423d4c62cd8b6ccb708ddad85da5d3d06756ad4d8a04a6a2
Feminist stuff now on the eth blockchain.
Will China demand censorsheep?
Will Vitalik kowtow?

Code:
I am Yueluo from the 2014 Foreign Languages Institute. I was one of the eight students who submitted the “Information Disclosure Application Form” to Peking University on the morning of April 9.

(snip)

Peking University School of Foreign Languages
April 23, 2018

Blockchain is irreversible.

THE Blockchain is, but Last of the V8s was talking about Ethereum.



977. Post 35544964 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

I think Masterluc got this one right. That's what he wrote yesterday, before today's sudden dip.

Quote from: Masterluc, April 24
9500-10000 will rebound (down). There's a daytime sma200. And the sewers are now an asshole.




978. Post 35562034 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

My rookie conspiracy theorist take on the current price movement.

How about the PTB are trying to suppress bitcoin and generate despair through aimless volatility?



979. Post 35569780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 25, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
How about the PTB are trying to suppress bitcoin and generate despair through aimless volatility?

Aimless? Works for me. For JJG too, I reckon.

right?

even the clown car, every time it moves .001 I make .001
Yeah, I guess very few people here are weak hands to be shaken or uncertain would-be investors to fend off. I was thinking of mainstream types.

(BTC volatility is working for me, too. I brought my safety short liquidation level to over 17k and pocketed some change too. As long as it dips again before hitting 17k, I'm gonna be greener than I am now.)



980. Post 35571213 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: BlackMambaPH on April 25, 2018, 04:19:39 PM
*breaking* ~ PayPal CEO calls Bitcoin a scam!  Shocked  wow is this even news?

yes as Paypal increased fees. Sour losers.

For those who looking for the news link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5655419/Bitcoin-SCAM-founding-PayPal-CEO-Bill-Harris-claims.html . Thanks me later. Time to sell my bitcoins.
Oh yes, thank you. Not only Harris, but even the Daily Mail sez I gotta sell now, so I will!



981. Post 38228055 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

How low will we go? 8k is breached, about 7870 at the moment.
I've got some cash at last. Wouldn't mind to get some moar, even without hoping to do so at the bottom - which isn't reasonable, as we all know. Rather, I could start a fresh 2J-ladder near a local low.

In the meantime, my hedge short has payed off some along the way. Play money nearly doubled. Part of the short still stands, as an insurance agains 5k. Liquidation price is over 100k.



982. Post 38303352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

One more SOMA(tm) prediction.

We're going to test the 6k area before end of month.
By September, next ATH run begins.

SOMA predictions - Straight Out of My Ass.
Almost totally wrong, almost all the time!



983. Post 38312220 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: Anon136 on May 23, 2018, 06:20:33 PM
you know full well how hollywood and disney view things. the audience won't change them unless, en masse, we rejected them, which you also know isn't going to happen.

I'm not about to go on a crusade but if I can convince one person not to give his money to rabid ideologues who are trying to destroy our society than that is better than nothing.

RABBId ideologues, you mean?
I'm sure the producers are joos. They all are.

You could open a nice thread with a few other WO participants. An echo chamber. Not as good a gas chamber, I know, but we all have to make do with what we have.



984. Post 38561993 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: bones261 on May 25, 2018, 11:02:12 PM
Blah blah

Do US dollars have a hard cap? No.
Do US dollars have a predictable issuance schedule? No.
Do Chuck E Cheese tokens have a hard cap? No.
Do Chuck E Cheese tokens have a predictable issuance schedule? No.

Do Bitcoins have a hard cap? Yes.
Do Bitcoins have a predictable issuance schedule? Yes.

Therefore it is either stupid or disingenuous to lump Bitcoins in with these obvious
scam projects like US dollars or Chuck E Cheese tokens.

Blah blah centralize blah blah

And exactly how is switching to gold and silver bullion going to get the government off of our backs? Wouldn't the governments and the religious leaders end up getting a substantial portion of the gold and silver, anyway? Wouldn't they then use the gold and silver to raise up armies and bully the rest of us into handing them even more of our gold and silver via taxes and other forms of extortion?

Bones, you too still quoting him-who-must-not-be-quoted? Tongue



985. Post 38658370 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

I don't think i will be that late. Adoption, LN progress... that's real value.
And then there's the halfening. Not that late, definitely.

EDIT Seems like the three of us - Dakustaking, bones and myself - have a problem wih our T's.



986. Post 38662270 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Do you really get rekt every time, bones, or is it just preventive whining?

(You're free not to answer this, of course. It's just a cocky opening.)

I'd try and make the bet smaller relative to my playroll, keeping leverage at maybe 3 tops, 1~1.5 even better. "Going long" can actually mean buying a few cents and stashing away. So can "taking profit." Increasing the amount in the freezer is probably the most hopeful subgoal to gambling with 100% house money.

I mean: you know a few things about retirement and taxes. I'm sure you made a few calculations. I know you understand this magical internet money fairly well, too. Come on.



987. Post 38690539 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

@TERA2
I think I surely don't have anything to apologize for, amirite?



988. Post 38692172 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

I'm glad I didn't come across as a jerk. What I would like is see you write a string of satisfied posts about how your trading gives you small but consistent fruits. You're a bitcoin veteran after all.

Quote from: bones261 on May 27, 2018, 04:42:12 AM
Do you really get rekt every time, bones, or is it just preventive whining?

(You're free not to answer this, of course. It's just a cocky opening.)

I'd try and make the bet smaller relative to my playroll, keeping leverage at maybe 3 tops, 1~1.5 even better. "Going long" can actually mean buying a few cents and stashing away. So can "taking profit." Increasing the amount in the freezer is probably the most hopeful subgoal to gambling with 100% house money.

I mean: you know a few things about retirement and taxes. I'm sure you made a few calculations. I know you understand this magical internet money fairly well, too. Come on.

To be blunt, my finances are a horror story. I truly am REKT. My cryptocurrency portfolio has never been large. We are talking less than 1 BTC worth ATM.
It's not a huge start, agreed, but by judicious use of a consistent strategy it could grow little by little. The 2J-ladder thingy, maybe. Or if you just held the hedging short since when you started it, now your play money could have doubled easily. That's what I mean by "consistent". And "judicious" means you would have managed to hold it without getting rekt soonish (with some sweat, granted) if it had been a small amount (like 10-20% of your play bankroll).

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Also, everyone knows the saying that those who can't,  teach. Definitely applies to me when it comes to retirement. I have jack shit saved up for retirement and I am 50.
I feel you, man.

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Sometimes I'm just tempted to liquidate all my meager cryptocurrency holdings right now. However, a part of me wants to hold on for as long as possible because quite frankly, it gives me a little ray of hope that maybe things will turn around, and I can delay the looming bankruptcy filing indefinitely.
Are we joking or what? Chin up and HODL!

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I will probably regret this posting, since I have bared all to practical strangers. Oh well, at least it was a little therapeutic to have my own pity party.
No names, no pain. And you got yourself off the target list as well. It probably isn't all that bad.



989. Post 38704814 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: Torque on May 27, 2018, 02:46:57 PM
I think I read somewhere, don't the major miners employ short contracts to hedge the price?

I bet they do. In their place, I would.



990. Post 38781553 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: Searing on May 28, 2018, 04:45:50 AM
Well, damn it! If this is what needs to be done to get it above 10k again so be it:

Then i need, Jennifer Tilly, (I will be her voodoo love puppet) and a Chucky Doll....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Tilly]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Tilly]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Tilly




then:
(snip manual and chicken)

Jennifer could have been a great help indeed. Can you estimate when that voodoo pic was taken?



991. Post 38781821 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on May 28, 2018, 12:42:19 PM
bottom?

(Snip: slap slap pic. I won't be caught only cherry-picking chick pics to repost)

Not that I like having to say so, but at the moment it's no use to ask about bottoms yet IMHO.

I expect when the bottom comes, it will be with a scream - I'M THE BOTTOM!



992. Post 38783860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on May 28, 2018, 05:57:40 AM
Damn when is it gonne stop?
Dropping fast now...

Someone with charts how things looking for now

MasterLuc does not think it looks good...

Why is Bitcoin there? At bitcoin, everything is bad in the mid-term. In the week-long picture, you can see yourself - in the negative zone of the BB, the falling ma20 and everything like that presses from above. Where do we fall? On my previous charts, there is a historical logarithmic support line in the 3-4k area, depending on how to navigate. In the area of ​​2000, we are met by a week-long ma200. I consider the support of this curve to be absolute at this stage. It just can not be pierced.

Bear the wind blows to us from Wall Street. There are very clever guys with big swaps, they are shaking the same button in all markets, including bitcoin. This is an exhaustive explanation of what is happening.

Once again I say bulls sleep at least until the 19 th year.
As it often happens, I think you nailed it.



993. Post 38799888 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

I think we're headed slightly under 7k within the week. Then maybe a little lower. Not as low as the 2k-3k I've seen mentioned here, though.

How do I know? It is a SOMA(TM) prediction, of course!  Grin

Straight Off My Ass(TM) Analytics
Almost completely wrong, almost all the time!



994. Post 38828860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 29, 2018, 01:15:24 AM
Someone should make that gif, where it gets redder the more you play it  , I'd be impressed, lol

#random: I was actually thinking of loading this up into Photoshop and seeing what I could do about increasing the redness of the imprint, but, admittedly, I have zero experience when it comes to editing animated .gifs, followed by the thought "Rick is gonna have questions if he walks into my office while editing a jiggling female ass..."

#gayworldproblems

 I could do that easily but my wife and daughter are sitting with me and I'm pretty sure I would have a similar issue with the jiggling female ass Wink

#universalproblems


You mean if it were a jiggling male ass you would have no issues?

#jigglingproblems



995. Post 38828907 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 29, 2018, 01:59:59 AM
God Fucking Damnit...

We're going under $7k USD/BTC... Aren't we...

SHEEEEIIIITTTT.

<thefuckisgoingon.gif>

About to call up Grichka and threaten to give him the 'ole what-what, if you know what I mean...
Volume keeps increasing, I'm not sure what this really means but we're holding a bit at $7100.

The first big enough long that gets rekt we're in for a few domino ripples.



996. Post 38887139 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 29, 2018, 03:31:20 PM
Will this be another dead cat bounce, is the question?

My gut says "Yeah, this is another dead cat bounce, and we'll be plumbing $6,500 by Friday"

I hope I'm very very wrong.
Reanimated cat maybe? Nah, it won't last anyway.
I believe we're still headed down, but not terribly so.
You'll have to skimp on your lifestyle for a few months, maybe.
Which means - easy with that 500$ whiskey. Stick to $10 beers and $40 wines for a while...  Cheesy



997. Post 38893832 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: d_eddie on May 29, 2018, 02:01:56 AM
(snip quotes)

The first big enough long that gets rekt we're in for a few domino ripples.

... or short.



998. Post 38902886 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: RewFrew on May 29, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
I noticed something on this thread.

The big and medium bitcoin stacks holder that are posting here for years turned to be talking like this now:

  1/ When bitcoin is dumping very hard = they post about bitcoin price in a very conservative bearish mode + less
      posts.

  2/ When bitcoin price pumping = like the rich peoples on gala charity they talks with good manners about weather, kids, vacations... The rich bitcoiners here talks very hard about jews, then silver, then jews, then silver.. and other bullshit topics ( thats the good manners of the rich bitcoiners).


The other day, we had a family talk, wife and kids all present, about where we should go this summer. While we were talking, we had a little snack - the usual lobster and fizzy wine thing - and the sun was shining as if it were early summer already. So the mood was just right to discuss our summer family vacation. My wife had the sense to mention we should pick a place that isn't full of Jews. Our champagne didn't taste as good in silver goblets as it does in plain crystal glasses, though.

Oops, going down again? I should shut up. We're headed sub-1k soon.



999. Post 38919364 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: Icygreen on May 30, 2018, 12:41:39 AM
During my wait I mentioned bitcoin as being a much faster and easier transfer system to the clerk. She said, "Bitcoin? Is that really a thing?"   

No, it's just code.



1000. Post 38979971 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

The spike above 7.6k wasn't too short lived, but it still feels like an ephemeral bull trap. Or is it? The rebound down wasn't too decisive, either. We're still hovering around that 7.2-7.3 area where we've been more or less all the time recently.

Just DON'T POKE her with a stick right now!



1001. Post 38980241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: mindrust on May 30, 2018, 04:54:56 PM
The next 24 months are extremely critical.

You kid, but amusingly enough, I just got back from a meeting with the new local dudes taking over my portfolios since I moved.

((( They ))) are pretty much saying the same thing. The next two years out are looking pretty gloomy according to all the charts, graphs, and shit they rolled out for me to eyeball.

Dude is getting me set up with some senior analysts here to start looking into a possible portfolio rebalance, and we'll see how things pan out.

I'm not worried at all as I'm hedged both ways; both in crypto and fiat, but, seems like it's time to pucker up and possibly get ready for some choppy waters.

You need a third foot. Get some physical gold too.
Yes, probably missing the third foot. I don't think he's THAT well-hung.



1002. Post 39053141 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: TERA2 on May 31, 2018, 10:00:06 AM
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BLOOMBERG: Bitcoin Heads Toward $7,000 as Pain Returns on Gloomy Technicals
Since failing to regain the psychologically important $10,000 level on May 4, it has closed lower in New York in 12 out of 17 sessions.
Wait what? Bitcoin closed? New York? Sessions? Are they talking about futures, or does this editor just not know what he is talking about?
I think it's the editor.



1003. Post 39055209 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Nice trend for the moment, but volume is still so-so. I'm still a bit skeptical.



1004. Post 39099796 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: Poll_(moderation_policy)
(A) Delete more posts trying to steer the conversation away from Bitcoin
(B) Delete more offensive posts (nazi-related, etc.)
(C) Both of the above / general increase in moderation needed
(D) The moderation has been fine
(E) We need less moderation / pure anarchy
(F) We need a new thread moderator

I voted (D), because I know I couldn't do any better than Infofront. A thankless job, almost invisible if swiftly managed. I would also like a few more distracting posts deleted - in the direction of (B), not A or C. The problem is drawing a straight line and, more importantly, spending the energy - physical and emotional - to implement it. Calling him out is really a bit unforgiving.

Let's be honest: We all do take turns in engaging such unsavoury characters. I agree that the auto-propagation of /ignore's to direct quotes would be quite useful.

TL;DR Necessary evil. Deal with it. Use that button if you must.



1005. Post 39099989 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 31, 2018, 06:35:59 PM
Why do all experts, whales and dickheads insist that capitulation has not occurred and cry, beg, scream, insist for lower prices?

I saw capitulation on Feb 5th!

True capitulation about 8 bleedin' weeks from an all time high? Don't be daffy.

There goes my last merit. I hope no one else posted such sensible stuff later on.



1006. Post 39246570 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Get the fuck out of here with these pillow fights! All three, oops, four of you.

:-P



1007. Post 39246729 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 02, 2018, 11:58:28 PM
O.k... Now can we kiss and make up?

GIF or it didn't happen.
:-P



1008. Post 39248302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 03, 2018, 12:58:35 AM
O.k... Now can we kiss and make up?

GIF or it didn't happen.
:-P


Some variation of the below gif has been used for this purpose:



Hm, a bit sloppy. I was hoping you'd provide fresh material, but whatever's ok.
Tongue

The laughing boy
He laughed so hard
He fell down from his place
The laughing girl
She laughed so hard
The tears rolled down her face

You serious bout the moon?



1009. Post 39428116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on June 05, 2018, 02:44:27 AM
I think the Microsoft github angst is overblown.

I'm much more cynical. I've seen what happens when smaller left-coast companies get bought up by bigger left-coast fish, and shit turns retarded real fast (within two years).

Fuck... I retired early because I just couldn't fucking stand it anymore...

I'm with Bob. It's been the same ever since Hotmail.



1010. Post 39429543 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

If I'm not wrong, this is the lowest start of week we've had in the current trend. We might be in for a local minimum in the weekend. No SOMA this time.



1011. Post 39439256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Down below 7.4 for a few minutes, and still no significant volume. Popcorn anyone?



1012. Post 39520084 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

As I said already, we might go below 7k by the weekend. All regular, don't freak out. Hodl tight and btfd if you can. Conservative buys are advised: we might go a bit lower before the bears are done.



1013. Post 39537843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: jojo69 on June 06, 2018, 09:24:45 PM
bart in the house
My gut feeling is that someone is trying to clean up both reckless shorts and reckless longs, but the swings are still on the smallish side. More popcorn, please.



1014. Post 39569894 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: greensheep on June 07, 2018, 05:37:17 AM


What the hell does this volume decline mean?

-Not even Doanld will risk a wall
-LOL bleedout
-No volume bounce is possible, some anti gravity force I don't know about is out there

It shows indecision as we get to the apex of the big triangle. Something big will happen within the next week or two.

So let's say that their is no volume --> nobody sells nobody buys, no bots nothing.
What happens to the price?

It stays the same level , doesn't it?

"No volume" hasn't happened yet. Low volume means that anybody who buys/sells even just 1$ of the stuff (maybe to themselves, as in a wash trade) get to make the price the world sees. This price manipulation is extremely easy, meaning cheap, because of the low volume.



1015. Post 39823717 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: mfort312 on June 08, 2018, 12:50:15 PM

Interesting little niche market but I just can’t help thinking how many more coins will be lost forever.

I don’t like how the lifetime of the private key flash chip is “somewhere between 25 and 100 years.”

Really?  Huh

Paper please.
Ordinary paper in many cases won't last 25 years, let alone 100. Careful with those keys.



1016. Post 39842694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on June 09, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
(snip)

EDIT2: For science.


As bold as required of the character - or online persona, as someone would say.



1017. Post 39845835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: blacky90 on June 11, 2018, 12:16:35 AM
you guys think we will drop below 6k?

We could. The next 1200 hours are critical.



1018. Post 39923127 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

I had smelled a harder than usual weekend after looking at the opening the previous Monday. The new week isn't all roses, either. It could have started off much worse, sure. Be as it may, I'm afraid we aren't done yet.



1019. Post 39958143 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: 4rt3m on June 12, 2018, 11:31:11 AM
BetterHash Aims to Increase Bitcoin Mining Decentralization



https://news.buybitcoinworldwide.com/betterhash-aims-to-increase-bitcoin-mining-decentralization/


This Corallo guy is no dummy.Quite interesting, and very promising if it gets in use! BetterHash would also make it easier to create new "anarchist" pools, where the main operator does get a commission, but without the ability to influence the individual miners' "political" choices.

I'd like to hear what miners (or ex miners) think about the likeliness of this new protocol to replace Stratum.



1020. Post 39958406 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: mfort312 on June 11, 2018, 10:32:01 PM
(snip quotes)

For a little Straight Outta My Ass Non-TA:

(snip)

I suspect it's Wall St and institutions slurping up most of the whale poop. Several regulated brokers (Fidelity, Goldman, JP Morgan, etc) are on the brink of offering their own Bitcoin exchanges, and are probably in bed with the OTC brokers, accumulating, accumulating, accumulating. Of course, they're getting played by their OTC intermediaries, too, resulting in reverse Bart action and uptrends. I wouldn't be surprised if it's these Wall St guys crying foul in the first place and putting pressure on the CFTC to investigate unregulated OTC/futures manipulation and level the playing field before the flood gates open. This is causing further whale and OTC broker panic to hurry up and unload before regulators shine a light and scatter the roaches in their corner, too.

Why OTC in the first place? Besides avoiding thinly traded exchange slippage, OTC brokers don't typically report anything to the IRS or other tax authorities. I suspect KYC/AML is much more lax as well, as long as you got the coin to play. Privacy comes at a price, though, and it's name is manipulation.

Meanwhile, small fry retail guys are quietly accumulating, driving the bullish background action we see on the charts.

Straight Outta My Ass

4 hr candles

Your point of view is always one of the most thought-provoking for me. You often share insights I couldn't come up with. You must know a bit - and I don't mean only about corn.


By the way, I'm honored you joined the SOMA(tm) Alliance.
But please, remember to keep them predictions Almost Completely Wrong, Almost All the Time! It must be hard for you, but you understand - we've got a reputation to defend.



1021. Post 39984790 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 12, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
new lows
Well fuck boys, this is just starting to get depressing , I'm too emotionally drained to give a fuck anymore.

This is great though despite what I said. It's a nice and quick search for the bottom. No long grindy winter.
Quick only if it's found soon, which at this point I am not sure of.

EDIT - Maybe you can help the search by posting one of your famous V8-pics about searching for the bottom? (hint hint, nudge nudge).



1022. Post 39985341 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: vortex1878 on June 12, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
bitcoin is fucking dead
i believe it will go sub 2k soon

You are way too optimistic. It's headed to sub $1k levels.
Sauce?

Some very adcanced and complicated techincal analysis and mathematical methods which I can't disclose their names in a CIA infested forum like this.

Onto the ignore list you go

You got trolled, bro.  Grin

Yes. It seems like mindrust omitted an /s mark that looked superfluous. It wasn't.



1023. Post 39985699 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: mindrust on June 12, 2018, 08:38:38 PM

Yes. It seems like mindrust omitted an /s mark that looked superfluous. It wasn't.

Where is the fun If I put an /s every time I decide to troll. No. That's not fun.

Fun is making you doubt.
This. I wouldn't have /s'ed such a post myself, either.



1024. Post 39992620 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 12, 2018, 11:05:08 PM
QUICK list 12288 is finisht GOOD LUCK   WO's

(list snipped)

with this 2 lists running .... i don't see what to do for another one .... would be nice if i had made a BOTTOM list when it was on a higher price....  Roll Eyes

Don't worry mic, better not think too much about bottoms. BTC bottoms, I mean ;-)



1025. Post 39994643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 13, 2018, 12:00:22 AM
Yes, I understand that some folks like to gamble, so I suppose to each his own in that regard.  Personally, I get much more comfort from attempting to employ a strategy that aims to lessen the gambling component, to the extent feasible and reasonable.
I concur. I found a way to move in that direction that is working for me at the moment. My safety short, dictated by dreams of mammoths, has been exactly that: an attempt to lessen the gambling component, more than an actual bet.

A successful attempt, I should add. Had it gone really wrong, I'd have lost some 20-30% of my play money - which isn't that much anyway. I purposefully set my stops in advance (ballpark, tweakable stops) to avoid falling prey to emotions. Luckily, it went well. The mammoths weren't playing games with me. I more than doubled my play money, and I haven't even fully closed the position yet. Maybe I'll manage to rebuild a larger position (at a lower, more dangerous entry level), but only if we see a few up runs - and if I get a little lucky in timing.

My language is that of a gambler, granted  - "dangerous... if... little lucky...", but the attitude is more like that of a safety game in bridge: You give up the best possible outcome to mitigate the worst. For my short to fail, the price had to go over 12k. Isn't this kind of "bet" sensible?




1026. Post 40061491 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: eth9888 on June 13, 2018, 11:33:18 AM
everyone holding btc wants to retire early, who is paying?
lol
Who? Those who don't hold now, but will be wanting to hold when current holders will be wanting to retire.



1027. Post 40063577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

More FUD. Academics. Perfect timing.

Bitcoin's 2017 Rise Was Market Manipulation By Tether: Study
https://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoins-2017-rise-was-market-manipulation-tether-study/



1028. Post 40064479 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

In other news, shorters take the blame.

https://www.marketwatch.com/Story/heres-why-bitcoin-is-fallingand-it-isnt-just-the-coinrail-exchange-hack-2018-06-13



1029. Post 40070231 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 13, 2018, 10:09:47 PM


NEWS FOR YOU     ITS YOUR DATE    Shocked  Roll Eyes  Grin

QUICK list 12288 is finisht GOOD LUCK   WO's

(list snipped)
15/06/2018 d_eddie

Oh really? I gave up on this long ago... removed from my mind.
What was that list about again? Tongue Tongue



1030. Post 40104660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

$4.5k might not happen, but mid $5k could. SOMA prediction. Almost completely wrong, almost all the time!



1031. Post 40139475 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 14, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
I'm very disheartened today. Lost a major chunk of my bitcoin holdings (almost 0.38 BTC) on Bitmex even though I've been longing since $8000 with just 4x leverage (adding more & more after every dump to average it further down), but still at $6140, I got liquidated. With this, I can pretty much assure that $6140 was actually the bottom. It was only to liquidate me, hard luck. Don't comment that I need to risk only what I can afford to lose, I know that very well, just had some real bad luck (as well as confusion) this time.

For reasons like this, I continue to conclude (personally) that leveraging is not necessary, especially in bitcoin.  In bitcoin we are lucky to experience outrageously stupendous returns, and I we do not need to leverage in order to achieve such outrageously stupendous returns on our investment.

Leveraging is a power tool that shouldn't be used lightheartedly. An understanding of the underlying arithmetic helps. On Bitmex in particular, shorts that are leveraged under 1 can't be liquidated at any price and only become a loss if/when the position is closed.

Quote
Accordingly, if you just invest regularly, then the most that you can lose is 100% of what you put in - but if you employ leverage (especially using the margin trade vehicles supplied by exchanges), you not only can lose your 100% more quickly, you also lose it way faster, which causes a kind of magnification that if you employ 4x leverage than you can lose 400% - something like that.

Well, kind of, yes. For example, if you make 4 repeated trades that burn each of their 100% approximately 4x times faster. Other side of the coin: for example, if you are using a leveraged position as a hedge, so you can hedge 4x times as much for the same "cost" (margin), admittedly on a smaller range. Not necessarily 4x smaller, though. The arithmetic details can get tricky.



1032. Post 40139670 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: infofront on June 14, 2018, 03:21:51 PM
Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Cheesy Wink

Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.




Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough.

Here goes the last merit in my quota for legendaries or quasi-legendaries (>1k guys).

I was hoping to give it to Last of the V8's, but he didn't take my invitation. About time for me to tribute infofront's status as a top bottom poster.

As an aside for gentlemen only - If I had that kind of panorama readily available, I wouldn't mind the current search for any other bottoms.

EDIT - sh** I f*** up, not 2! I never gave more than 1 merit to any single post. I tricked myself into clicking that button with both... uh, hands.




1033. Post 40140628 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

(quotes freely snipped for relevance)

Quote from: bitserve on June 13, 2018, 03:31:31 PM

Still having more money than you could probably spend (as such whales do) is not that terrible even if your net worth gets a cut of several hundred millions. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think they are as much depressed as I am right now.

I played this past peak much worse than I did the previous (2013) in which I doubled my Bitcoin count. The blame is on me (or my greed).

P.S.: No, not going to break/sell. I can perfectly (and depressedly) ride this thing until ZERO. I am more worried about the amount of profits already (even if temporarily?) lost than what I still have to lose (which is LESS).
We're soul brothers in a way - but swings and opportunities aren't over yet. New profits can and will come, and the one thing I learned about trading is: The only way to really learn a lesson is pay for it. You paid handsomely, but you're still in the green. Your glass is half full, see? And it's Don Simon Premium, not the usual stuff!

Quote from: bitserve on June 14, 2018, 01:54:40 AM
It's basically that.... I didn't play well this time... But hindsight is 20/20... and I really don't like to have a substantial exposure to exchanges anymore.

So yeah, hodl and suck it up. In the end I will be fine... or not. We will see.
I also paid my lessons through the nose. Still in the green, though, using my new knowledge from old mistakes to make some corn on the side, and still learning useful tidbits at a much more reasonable price. See you at the 100k party sooner than we both think?



1034. Post 40176006 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on June 15, 2018, 01:54:39 PM
Woof! Woof!

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

So relevant.

Quoting doesn't help, either. It's just like spreading more dog food in the garden. First come dogs, then roaches.



1035. Post 40178148 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Elwar on June 15, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
Most peoples' taxes are taken out of their paycheck. With BitWage you can get your paycheck direct deposited to a bitcoin address without your company ever knowing you are getting paid in bitcoin.
This is nice. I will check it out.

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In Europe I was able to pay bills, rent (until I talked my landlord into taking BTC directly), etc. with bitwala. Not sure if there is a similar service in the US but a quick google search gives welto.io, coinbills.com and coinsfer.com.
Is Bitwala still working? After the great debit card purge, I'm not sure it's so easy anymore. Waiting eagerly for new arrangements to regrow a pool of bitcoin card operators.

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Buy a used car with bitcoin or go to the very few auto dealers in the US that accept BTC (again, what...every 5 years? are you holding fiat so you can buy a car?). When I wanted a car in Germany I went to a localbitcoins guy and got the cash to pay for the car.
I think localbitcoins is banned in Germany.

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(Oh nos! I have to buy a gift card! That's not bitcoin! It allows you to have bitcoin as your main currency and not rely on banks or holding fiat that loses value over time, take the 3% discount through gift cards already).
Are you referring to Amazon here? What is in your experience/opinion the best way to get gift cards via btc?



1036. Post 40206081 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 15, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
(snipped for relevance)

I don't see exchanges, devs and users complaining how flawed Segwit it, nobody lost money ore saw critical errors.  I only see that bullshit in the Bcash camp.

Can you provide me technical arguments/proof why Segwit is 'flawed' ore show it at the Github?

Yes. Fungibility.
What's the issue with fungibility that's so specific to segwit?

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Reliance on miners not to revert to 'anyonecanspend' - an incentive for which only increases over time.
That is, reliance on miners not to try a 51% attack. Does this imply the chain without segwit is invulnerable to 51% attacks?

Besides, any such attack would appear as a fork, which the non-mining nodes would be free to follow or disregard. No substantial change from the pre-segwit state of things, I would say.

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A new ability for miners to fail to validate all portions of blocks.
You mean miners running pre-segwit software that have to skip SW transactions?

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The list goes on.
How?



1037. Post 40206172 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on June 15, 2018, 10:47:41 PM
Ok, everybody hold your breath, make sure you're gripping something sturdy, and let's hope @BigRekts doesn't start Tweeting again.

Don't like what I'm seeing with this movement into the weekend right now.
My gut feeling (insert standard disclaimer) is that if the weekend was to be all bloody, we'd have seen stronger signs by yesterday. Of course - a swift, ominous move is always possible, but that's unrelated to the weekly cycle. The weekend trend start indicators have been moving back towards Thursdays since at least a few months.



1038. Post 40206712 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: gentlemand on June 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
I'm not following the whole USDT drama, to me it's just like another alt/shitcoin, i.e. if anything, people would try to escape into BTC when it crashes. Of course it can take down some exchanges, but if you keep your BTC on exchanges thats the risk that you're taking

It may be unfashionable to think it, but I don't really believe there is one any more. Even if at one point it was money out of thin air, and there's no proof either way, they've likely earned it back now.

It's going to be a forever mystery I reckon that's rolled out every now and then for a quick scare.

Was it you who explained a possible mechanism by which the printers of tether could back it 100% with actual USD? The post ended with something along the lines of "they can't withstand an audit because the order of the transactions would be wrong; not the actual final amounts." Whoever it was, it was brilliant.

Related: I searched (tether, audit, audited, usdt) using the top search field in the regular thread view, and I only got results from 2016 or older. Any hints on how to search this behemoth of a thread?



1039. Post 40231017 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

(quotes snipped and cherry-picked for manipulation) /s

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2018, 02:55:40 AM
Can you provide me technical arguments/proof why Segwit is 'flawed' ore show it at the Github?

Yes. Fungibility.
What's the issue with fungibility that's so specific to segwit?

As I posted between there and here, Segwit creates three classes of Bitcoins. Each with distinctly different exposure to security vulnerabilities.  
1) Those that are completely free of any Segwit taint all the way back to their constituent coinbase transactions;
2) Those that are not currently output from a Segwit transaction, but have Segwit taint between here and their constituent coinbase transactions; and
3) Those that are the output of a Segwit transaction.
Only type-1 coins have a special status. Turning any coin into type-2 or type-3 is trivial. So does that make blacklisting easier?

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2018, 02:55:40 AM
Reliance on miners not to revert to 'anyonecanspend' - an incentive for which only increases over time.
That is, reliance on miners not to try a 51% attack. Does this imply the chain without segwit is invulnerable to 51% attacks?
No. But without Segwit, all miners were able to do with a 51% attack is roll back transactions. They were unable to steal funds.
I think @bitserve addressed this point better than I could.

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2018, 02:55:40 AM

Why don't we focus upon these issues first, before moving on?
So I assume that's it. I wanted to assess the full import of the terrible peril we've chosen to stick our heads into, so I could cry a little doom before getting bogged down in hairy technical discussions. Discussions that will be disrupted by friendly invitations such as the following.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 16, 2018, 08:22:51 AM
Get the fuck out of here with your BIG BLOCKER distraction talking points - now trying to pervert the concept of fungibility.
(snip)
get the fuck out of here with your nonsensical misleading assertions.

I would have liked to include some quote with "nutjob" or "ratt's ass". Maybe next time. You still get the picture  Tongue



1040. Post 40300401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2018, 04:26:06 PM
So you cede that these issues exist. Great.
Did my reply imply as much? I don't think they are issues - that's why I was asking. After bitserve, fluidjax too pointed out the meaninglessness of focusing on 51% attacks as segwit-specific attack vectors.

Fungibility isn't a real issue, either - still IMHO. As SW transactions become the majority, only old or newborn coins will be left in your Type 1 (coins that were never touched by a SW transaction). Besides, LN acts as a kind of giant mega-tumbler. If/when LN really gets into widespread use, it will only help fungibility rather than undermine it.

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2018, 04:15:08 PM
Geeze, JJG - you need to look up the definition of 'fungible'. Within the three posts preceding yours, 2/3 of them stated that they were cautious of accepting Segwit transactions until they gained some confidence in it. That is definitively a lack of fungibility. A lack of fungibility is in no way limited to some sort of centralized blacklisting.
Those two posters stated that they were wary of SW transactions right after the soft fork. This hasn't much to do with fungibility in my understanding - more of a reasonable wait-and-see attitude motivated by sane skepticism about the technology itself - skepticism that might have been triggered by the FUD wave that some were spreading at the time.

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Peace out.
I'm totally cool.




1041. Post 40329388 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Elwar on June 17, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
Bitcoin is the path to lambo. Lambo leads to women. Women lead to marriage.
They sure try to, but succeeding is quite another matter. Lambo or no lambo.

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Marriage leads to...suffering.
Can't argue with that.



1042. Post 40347099 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 18, 2018, 01:36:43 AM
It's literally the first rule of life. Doesn't change that a hundred women is hard r-type behavior, that women lose the ability to pair-bond the more sexual partners they have
Men too - even more, perhaps.

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and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.
I'd like it if we all declined some more.



1043. Post 40347334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 18, 2018, 01:52:55 AM
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and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.
I'd like it if we all declined some more.
We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.



1044. Post 40347464 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: windjc on June 18, 2018, 01:57:25 AM
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and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.
I'd like it if we all declined some more.
We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

Ah, you got plenty of time I imagine.

I've got a long wishlist too.



1045. Post 40347517 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Idle, bickering conversation ensues only because the corn is sleeping. DO NOT PROD NOW.



1046. Post 40380360 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

As some of us were expecting, the weekend wasn't too bloody, or even that bad. A quiet slow spiral. Start of week looks more or less regular given the season. If this is winter, let's light a fire. A new spring will come, we all know it. And we all know it will be fairly unexpected, as it always is with bitcoin. Hodl, btfd, you know the drill.



1047. Post 40445388 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: infofront on June 18, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
For me, the dream of fungibility died when Ross Ulbricht went to prison.
It wasn't bitcoin tracking that sent Ross to jail. It was poor opsec, entrapment and massive use of federal resources.



1048. Post 40476813 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 19, 2018, 05:30:49 PM
In 1998, Nick Szabo designed a mechanism for a decentralized digital currency he called "bit gold"

In 2008, Satoshi Nakamoto designed a decentralized digital currency he called "bitcoin".


https://i.imgur.com/KvZhOGol.jpg

So when Satoshi gives Hal Finney his bitcoin address in an email it's:

1NSwywA5Dvuyw89sfs...

Shortly after in the same email Satoshi says:

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I just thought of something. Eventually there'll be some interest in brute force scanning bitcoin addresses to find one with the first few characters customized to your name, kind of like getting a phone number that spells out something. Just by chance I have my initials.

Reddit source

Nakamoto Satoshi would also have N. S. as his initials. Family name first, as is the norm in Japan.



1049. Post 40480149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 19, 2018, 09:00:12 PM
You are not going to answer anything because you have no answers.

Any basic home connection can handle 2 mb every ten minutes. The kind of connections that the top miners use wouldn't even fucking notice.

Here is what would happen on the mining front if the blocksize was doubled. Absolutely fucking nothing. The only thing that would happen would be that the hash-per-transaction would halve, but the amount of hardware and electricity to do a 51% attack would remain the same.

NOTHING WOULD CHANGE EXCEPT AN INCREASED TRANSACTION CAPACITY.

Prove me wrong. With numbers and facts. If any of you think you have the brain for it.
I guess he might be weary of re-ELI5-ing stuff that has been discussed ad nauseam. Especially to a fellow bitcoiner old enough (bitcoin wise, at least) to know better - and therefore supposedly able to read up stuff quickly without having to use Wikipedia as a glossary twice for every paragraph.




1050. Post 40481302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 19, 2018, 09:23:21 PM
You are not going to answer anything because you have no answers.

(snip)

Prove me wrong. With numbers and facts. If any of you think you have the brain for it.
I guess he might be weary of re-ELI5-ing stuff that has been discussed ad nauseam. Especially to a fellow bitcoiner old enough (bitcoin wise, at least) to know better - and therefore supposedly able to read up stuff quickly without having to use Wikipedia as a glossary twice for every paragraph.
What is that?

Well, as I said, usually Wikipedia or Google do provide answers to non-rhetorical questions.
ELI5: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ELI5



1051. Post 40481582 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 19, 2018, 09:52:46 PM
If you are blowing me off then just call me a faggot and be done with it. Would be more classy anyway.

I'm not blowing you off. I'm suggesting some reading might be appropriate, even if thought it shouldn't be.

By the way, nothing in your writing suggests faggotry, so why should calling you a fag be more classy?



1052. Post 40517876 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 20, 2018, 12:07:42 PM
Non-mining nodes count for nothing
/s

That's the underlying assumption for bcashers and other big blocker nutjobs(TM).

Someone could tell them to "get the fuck out of here with...(TM)"

Oops, someone told them already!  Wink



1053. Post 40518216 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on June 19, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
I’ll pop back during the next bull run.

Hope to see you soon then!  Grin

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Maybe you’ve all stopped bitch slapping each other by then.
Don't count on it. Slapping, trolling and flaming is an integral part of WO reality. Filtering helps.



1054. Post 40527682 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Don't feed the trolls, please.

To be honest, most of us have been there, done that, but when a relative newcomer starts quoting roach, we still feel a word of warning might help.



1055. Post 40844785 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: bitmover on June 22, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
I just wired some money to Kraken. How long does that usually take, for a domestic wire transfer?
This will be my largest purchase since 2015. Hopefully there's more blood soon.

I feel good to see this kind of optimism here. I have some fiat ready in a exchange just waiting for the bloodbath too.

Wall observer could save a lot of newbies and weak hands if they could find it.

WO is easy enough to find.
Newbies will be newbies.
Weak hand will be weak.
It can't be helped, not even by the Mighty WO thread.



1056. Post 40915609 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

We are not done yet. Be patient.



1057. Post 41165931 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: TReano on June 28, 2018, 03:58:23 PM
If you haven't seen this before it's worth a watch.

Andreas explains why Big Blocks are not going to work. (watch time: 5-6mins, Petabyte Blocks & Streaming Money)

https://youtu.be/AecPrwqjbGw?t=11m39s

he is talking about how big block sizes would make bitcoin centralized (because he knows how Computing technologie would develop in the next 10 years ofc.)
Moore's Law has been defied already some time ago. It's not Andreas who seems to lack a basic grasp of current technology trends.

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Even if so: LN is by design centralized.
It is not centralized by design. Indeed, the design itself is peer-to-peer - even more so than the Blockchain itself, because there are no validators that could potentially choke the network.

It is not centralized in real life deployment, either. Just look up some of the diagrams our resident Lighting Networker Boblawblaw posts once in a while.

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So whats that argument even about?
Was there an argument? I only noticed someone spreading ill-digested information, or deliberate lies.



1058. Post 41166264 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 29, 2018, 04:37:14 PM
My "$7,500-$8,000" guess for tomorrow may have been a little off.

Fucking sea of red today, time to get on the bike and go get drunk. Smiley

For me its sport @ 28degrees followed by small diner on terrace with summer wines ...., tomorrow its the real deal with me its not gonna be an Epic night like few weeks back but i’m starting my engine for celebrating my BTC increases of last 2 months and Will be So fucked up tomorrow on strong booze lovely foods with @ the end No more knowing my Own name of how a BTC logo looks like......

If you weren't here, we'd have to make up someone like you just for the kicks. Enjoy yourself. Drink responsibly.

Oops... I slipped on the last phrase, sorry! Wink



1059. Post 41167772 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 28, 2018, 10:04:02 PM
The base layer has to stay VERY comfortably within Moore's law.

If one is to use Moore's law as the metric, computing power has increased by a factor of 64 in the time of Bitcoin's existence.

Lessee.... what's 1MB times 64? Humm....

Use of net resources scales super-linearly.  And Moore's Law has had a serious stop in the latest years. I know you know all that. Come on. Please.



1060. Post 41183695 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

I smell a bull trap. Or, as bitserve said, just a few stops being triggered. The volume isn't there, AND it's the weekend. I don't trust this.



1061. Post 41185469 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 30, 2018, 01:42:48 AM
my new bottom call

2250

Is this going to be quick, with one red candle after another so that I can move my entire stash to Bitmex and go 100x margin short? Or is it going to be full of volitility so that I will get rekt before reaching the target?


Sell, sell, sell.. bitcoin is doomed!!!!!  Too many green candles.  This is not natural.. right, peeps?

I guess what you really mean is "Get the fuck out of here with your capitulation nonsense!"

But you're too kind to be so blunt  Tongue



1062. Post 41185563 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: regent4 on June 30, 2018, 01:48:26 AM


Breakout?

http://blockchainshowdown.blogspot.com/2018/06/btc-usd-30th-june-2018.html
Let's see if it holds until Monday.

(Note to self: the expiry date of those futures is really a watershed.)



1063. Post 41208564 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Price rising.
Indicators turning green.
But but but... the Shill Post Density Index points to bear market conditions.
Someone even mentioned Peter Rizun.
Conflicting observations.
What do I trust?
My left ball says we're not out of the woods yet.



1064. Post 41210006 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 30, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
Discussing security problems is not shilling. This is childish.
Discussing security problems while twisting names and calling shitcoins bitcoin is.



1065. Post 41226107 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 30, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
- Friday was coincidentally my retirement day. I'd entertain part-time, but they're looking for full.

Hard earned rest. Congrats!



1066. Post 41353727 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: anunymint on July 02, 2018, 10:59:45 AM
IMPORTANT

(Blah) This indeed is my last post in this cult, groupthink dominated thread.

(blah, blah, blah!)
...the same banksters behind the curtain.

(Yawn.)



1067. Post 41353839 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: vroom on July 02, 2018, 11:41:53 AM
IMPORTANT

A lot of smart words from a smart guy.


poor bitfinex will lose 187,000 bitcoin (cold storage: 3D2oetdNuZUqQHPJmcMDDHYoqkyNVsFk9r) because they did not read your smart post in a public internet forum.
I guess they assessed the length and density of the post before deciding the agony of going through all the links wasn't worth 187k.

Now let's see if he can keep faith to the "my last post" bit.

(Warning - Making new accounts and posting under a different name would break that.)



1068. Post 41383288 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

I've got a SOMA(TM) prediction.

This week we'll see the corn go up and up. 8k can't be ruled out.
This weekend will be the worst we've seen for a long time.
My gut tells me it's just a double shake move, probably the largest yet.
And possibly the last for this cycle.

Straight Off My Ass
Almost completely wrong, almost all the time!



1069. Post 41383546 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 02, 2018, 08:20:30 PM
Common belgium time to make Some sushi still 0-0 .....

Sorry Micgoosens but the japs seem to be too good today trailing 0:2  Sad


So happy I’m italian and don’t have to care about the World Cup
 Lips sealed

pffff against brazil after a good match i can live with .... but against japan please not
2-2@ the time common !!!!!

3-2 last goal was a perfect beauty i runned down my house like a crazy fucker that i am!!!!! so happy
I was rooting for Belgium too Wink



1070. Post 41387081 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

I will gladly buy segwit tainted coins for good original Satoshi coins. 2 to 1. If doom is incoming, 3 to 1.



1071. Post 41388376 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: Hueristic on July 02, 2018, 09:33:24 PM
I just don't get why peops link pdf files here.
Make sure you know what your doing when opening them, they can contain executables.
Maybe the pdf that was linked contained no exe?
Additionally, I suppose people reading these pages would know what to do when the system asks them if it's OK to execute stuff they just downloaded without knowing.

(No flame intended.)



1072. Post 41432710 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 03, 2018, 11:51:20 AM
@keonne
I would advise against using @LocalBitcoins for the time being. They are having infrastructure problems which break the escrow system. My BTC trade bypassed escrow and sent directly to the counterparty.
My counterparty was honest and returned my BTC, but yours might not be.

12:09 PM - 3 Jul 2018

hmm.

+1 WOsMerit
Very useful info indeed.
Thanks.



1073. Post 41446915 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Can't disagree. I still smell shaking games. Be wary. Call me paranoid if it helps.



1074. Post 41457748 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: vroom on July 03, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
SEC Proposes New Approval Process for Certain Exchange-Traded Funds

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-118

What do these new rules imply? I couldn't make much sense of that terse communication.



1075. Post 41463461 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

I love this place.

bones261: +1 WOsMerit



1076. Post 41691578 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 07, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
The Bitcoin Quiz:

https://hodlhodl.com/quiz_questions

Dammit 29/30.  I object to the wording of the change question !

29/30. I mistook a bech32 address for a transaction ID.



1077. Post 41936205 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

I was expecting a crashy weekend, which we didn't have. Now I see more signs of downside. I think we're in for a rough ride. Let's get it over with it soonish.



1078. Post 41959515 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: kurious on July 11, 2018, 08:01:48 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.

maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.

Given 2014/15, there is a historical precedent.  I just hope if we are going that low, it's faster this time - grinding down and only hitting bottom in early 2019 would be tough.

Sooner, please.

That's what I meant. Inb4, I don't want to rush touchy badgers, but please.



1079. Post 41978725 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: European Central Bank on July 11, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
This is seriously the most boring season of Bitcorn I've lived through.

At least I was a miner previously to keep things exciting.

Maybe I should tune out until 2020 or something...

My gut tells me we're not going to end this year higher than we did last.

did futures really tame bitcoin? come on honey badger, wake up!

Nope
 The bubble burst did. And it's not tamed, it's been dragged into an alley and had the shit kicked out of it.

Now it's groaning in a corner until a garbage truck runs it over in the morning.

Mayor, is that you?



1080. Post 42027073 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Bob: +1 WOsMerit.
That sums it up nicely Cheesy
(The newbie trader/expert trader pic I mean.)



1081. Post 42027409 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 12, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
Coincidentally-Russian-owned Standard reports https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pub-renamed-trump-arms-for-presidential-visit-a3879986.html

Turner-owned tv has a new show https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/new-game-show-paid-offers-chance-eliminate-student-loan-debt-n890316


From Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" (1985) (via @bitstein)
Does that mean "Ignore anything outside of your backyard and lead a happier, more meaningful life"?

That argument doesn't seem too relevant to the studen loan issue (except for the peculiar quiz show prize).
I'm not sure I follow.

BTW, as you undoubtedly know quite well living on the older side of the Pond, in most parts of the world public education is reasonably effective and free - or priced outside of the debt-inducing threshold (yes it means subsidized). Extortionately priced education is an almost exclusive feature of the "land of the free".



1082. Post 42027441 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: TERA2 on July 12, 2018, 04:19:18 AM
I havent seen any rockets or upward graphs in a while. The poll is bearish. Is it time for a reversal?

Not yet, Tera. A fun weekend is already brewing, can't you feel it?



1083. Post 42035643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 12, 2018, 01:20:17 PM
Coincidentally-Russian-owned Standard reports https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pub-renamed-trump-arms-for-presidential-visit-a3879986.html
Turner-owned tv has a new show https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/new-game-show-paid-offers-chance-eliminate-student-loan-debt-n890316

From Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" (1985) (via @bitstein)
Does that mean "Ignore anything outside of your backyard and lead a happier, more meaningful life"?

That argument doesn't seem too relevant to the studen loan issue (except for the peculiar quiz show prize).
I'm not sure I follow.

BTW, as you undoubtedly know quite well living on the older side of the Pond, in most parts of the world public education is reasonably effective and free - or priced outside of the debt-inducing threshold (yes it means subsidized). Extortionately priced education is an almost exclusive feature of the "land of the free".

Intriguingly, you once said you prefer an essay to a video, or similar, but it seems you are not entirely impervious to the 'graphic revolution'. Nor am I.
You're right on essays vs videos. Impervious to graphic revolution - of course not. Who is or can be, nowadays?

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Meanwhile the universities, funded by whichever local scamola or chumpatron, are not teaching anything of any value to the students themselves. Anything that might combat the visual fog of today's virtual slave empire.
I agree universities are becoming irrelevant to real world training - with a few important exceptions.

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Here, a person, her gender and nationality irrelevant, but her 'education' 'imperial', is 'bright' enough to go hiking in Austria because it's the done thing, but has no skills to cope with the real world smacking her in the face: https://www.dw.com/en/american-tourist-takes-unexploded-wwii-munition-to-vienna-airport/a-44611194
This looks as a serious case of stupidity. So how is it connected to our discussion? Because it shows "proper" education wasn't able to drill any sense into the dumb tourist's head?

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Here I've made 3 or 4 assumptions, but they stem from how I see the world, and I beg you to start looking at it more critically too.
I'm all for critical thinking, and try to exercise it when I see a chance. About the specific topic of student loans, universities, and so on, a good perspective on education is essential to get a glimpse of where we're going to a few years from now. That's why I'm interested in your point of view - but I still can't see what you're pointing to (if you're actually pointing to something). Or am I lost looking at your finger?

Please be more explicit if you can be bothered (and I would excuse you if you can't).



1084. Post 42136341 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Gratz on heroing, Hairy! I've missed the exact post - too much going on too fast here.



1085. Post 42160116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: ccminer.net on July 14, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

I think that if an ETF should be approved, which I'm not too convinced of right now, it could be a mixed blessing. Depending on its rules and its effective audience, it can turn out to be a pump&dump machine for the elites or a retail instrument for mom&pops.

The first route could lead to more turmoil, chaos and mainstream scorn. The second route could help bitcoin become what it was designed to be. I'm thinking of mostly clueless baby boomers who could embrace an instrument promising exceptional growth and listed on the "normal" channels. This would lead to universal recognition, and in turn wider adoption.

Admitting some form of ETF is eventually approved, which way will it go? Hard to tell. Verifying a fund's financial solvibility/consistency is a trivial matter, given the way the blockchain works. Verifiable pubblic addresses require virtually no auditing.

However, as said above, the SEC guys are likely just bureaucrats at heart, with a vulture tinge on the side. So rather than certainty of collateral - which is trivial to verify as we all know - they focus on the (in)stability and manipulability of the underlying market - which as of today, is still a hard to deny reality.

We are facing interesting days for sure. And months, and years.



1086. Post 42315377 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: Searing on July 16, 2018, 07:15:55 PM
The price of BTC is creeping up IMHO on the off chance that the SEC will approve the 'top heavy for the rich' ETF next month

https://bitcoinist.com/3-reasons-sec-bitcoin-etf-next-month/

... or is it really BlackRock, as some sources in the MSM say? If they're really checking out Bitcoin, as the rumor goes, we can bet our collective asses that we're due for another plunge. It's Conspiracy 101: they like their coins cheap.

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The danger is, if that does NOT go thru...the price, again IMHO, will dump below 6k again
be cautious
brad
This applies even if it indeed BlackRock. Not that it matters that much.



1087. Post 42317874 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

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1088. Post 42318173 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: teramit on July 16, 2018, 11:03:06 PM
Road to 100k has begun!!!
i recomend you my last comment on the topic opened 2 months ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3326533.msg42297319#msg42297319

I went far from the WO thread to read that comment. I was scared out there. I found the post.

Quote from: teramit on July 16, 2018, 03:16:15 PM
Resurgencing topic again because same think is happening, price is rising and everbody is hoping that ti will fly to the moon, yes i think it will fly to the moon but not with this rise, there are some sign of a giant rise and we are far from it now, so what will happen next month is an intermediate loop becoming from mini loops, it may rise to 8-9k then fall to where it starts. As this topic opened nearly nobody believed what i said only %10 of users seems supporting but it was obvious for me just like now. Manipulator is convincing people that price is rising with steep moves, free market can rise but not like this, free market should rise slowly , if it moves steep it is suspicious for me. again alot of people hunting news for an acceptable reason to that rise but it will end just like in july and this time intermediate trend may end in below the last bottom. But for a short time you can enjoy with rise.
 If you wonder how a giant rise come it simply come after volatilty ends and it took months to convince all investors to it will be historic , so dont expect too much thing from volatily.
I fundamentally agree with this view. We're still deep in some big player's games. There's this move away from Bart Simpsons into a slightly different pattern, but it's only apparent on shorter time frames. I'm not sure we are due under 5k, but a steep, grim fall is ahead. We really need some capitulation to call it a night - at least in the form of vanishing volatility.

All strictly SOMA, it goes without saying.



1089. Post 42319163 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

(quotes sprinkled with snippity snips)

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 16, 2018, 11:26:47 PM
yes i think it will fly to the moon but not with this rise, there are some sign of a giant rise and we are far from it now, so what will happen next month is an intermediate loop becoming from mini loops, it may rise to 8-9k then fall to where it starts.

if it moves steep it is suspicious for me. again alot of people hunting news for an acceptable reason to that rise but it will end just like in july and this time intermediate trend may end in below the last bottom. But for a short time you can enjoy with rise.

I fundamentally agree with this view.

I'm not sure we are due under 5k, but a steep, grim fall is ahead. We really need some capitulation to call it a night - at least in the form of vanishing volatility.

I agree with an assessment that consolidation tends to be accompanied by decreasing volatility, but in the end, we cannot ever really know how long the consolidation period is going to last and at what point the price is going to be pushed out of the consolidation range - so in that sense nothing is inevitable in bitcoin

Indeeed. Eventually, everyone here will be sure we're moving into the last big correction. When that happens, the badger might find it appropriate to go off skyrocketing without giving a single fuck.



1090. Post 42320547 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 17, 2018, 12:19:44 AM
Are you assuming that we need "one last BIG correction"? 
I'm not assuming that much, but that's what my gut tells me through... well, that's advanced SOMA stuff  Tongue

I'm glad I followed my gut by shorting. I managed to stash some away and with this little climb I'm still well in the green even with the play money I left on the table.

My final point, however, was the admission that for all we know, the badger might well not give a single fuck what we or anybody else thinks or feels.





1091. Post 42374135 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: jojo69 on July 17, 2018, 05:35:40 PM

nope

I think we need one more gut wrenching drop to put in a credible bottom.  A failure here at 68......

That's what my gut still tells me, even as we passed 7k. Don't relax.



1092. Post 42374551 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: podyx on July 17, 2018, 05:39:18 PM


Shorters are you ok?
I am OK, thanks. Still in the green. I won't get even with my play money until the corn gets to 18k. In which case, I'll close the position with a curse on my lips and I will get some consolation from the corn I've already put away in this down move, not to mention what would happen to my main stash.

I still hope to close the position on additional profit, though. We'll see.

For clarity: I am a bull. A long term bull who knows bitcoin is a stormy sea. Because of my bull soul, I'm accounting profits/losses in BTC. Of course, if it goes down to 150$ I will gain disgustingly in BTC, but lose a lot of fiat value overall.



1093. Post 42375282 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: mfort312 on July 17, 2018, 06:45:10 PM
On point.

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Subject: SR-CboeBZX-2018-040
From: Anonymous
July 11, 2018

I just want to say to please approve this ETF so that my Dad can buy bitcoin on his own and stop bothering me every month to buy it for him. This would make my life much better if he can do this on his own in his Charles Swabb account or something. Just sayin!
Thanks.
"Baby boomers, most of which clueless", I said, or something to that effect. I could have added "but some of their children do have a clue". By the way, I think it's more or less the same with Generation-X people. Millennials are more tuned in.



1094. Post 42375606 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 17, 2018, 09:04:53 PM
Posted less than 24 hours ago:

Concept only - not to scale.



Chart now.  Its a sucker's rally, unless an ETF is approved which is highly unlikely.



I would place a little bet on a weekend warning. But I might be wrong about weekends - they're phasing out weekend dumps lately.



1095. Post 42469273 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 19, 2018, 12:10:04 AM


Shorters are you ok?
I am OK, thanks. Still in the green. I won't get even with my play money until the corn gets to 18k. In which case, I'll close the position with a curse on my lips and I will get some consolation from the corn I've already put away in this down move, not to mention what would happen to my main stash.

Sounds like too BIG of a bet to me, but what do I know about playing with margins?  Not too much, except that chances for getting Reckt, increase considerably.
They do, but I was careful and lucky. As a result, my current position is such that I won't lose my latest gains until bitcoin explodes to 18k. If it keeps going down, it's additional profit.

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For clarity: I am a bull. A long term bull who knows bitcoin is a stormy sea. Because of my bull soul, I'm accounting profits/losses in BTC. Of course, if it goes down to 150$ I will gain disgustingly in BTC, but lose a lot of fiat value overall.

Let's get real.   $3k is a stretch at this point, no?  Doesn't seem very realistic referring to REALLY GREAT outlier cases that have about a snowball's chance of happening, right?   
Right, of course. I just put in a totally unrealistic number to make an example.



1096. Post 42975133 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

The Motley Fool, too, suggests we might be in for a stock market crash.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/favorite-warren-buffett-metric-tells-103400994.html



1097. Post 42976440 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 26, 2018, 09:26:33 PM
Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience. 

+1 WOsMerit.



1098. Post 42976817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 26, 2018, 11:07:58 PM
I think the key to look for (I haven't been paying attention enough to the new ETF to know) is, if the CBOE is trying to change the rules in the same way that Winklevoss ETF did. Which they require some safeguards to manipulation according to their shit response.

They said that they would approve something with existing futures markets if "an ETP listing exchange...demonstrates in a proposed rule change that it will be able to address the risk of fraud and manipulation by sharing surveillance information with a regulated market of significant size related to bitcoin"

Is this what CBOE is doing?

The point is there is not yet a regulated market of sufficient size.  

Give it a couple of years.  Then moon.

I'm glad I can't run out of WOsMerits.
+1 for Hairy, again!



1099. Post 43000510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 27, 2018, 10:20:39 PM
Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience.  

+1 WOsMerit.

You alleged bitcoin bulls, seem to be hopium for something, and suggesting that there is some kind of certainty.

No certainty here, but for me it wouldn't be bitcoinish to go past 10k without another plunge. Possibily harder than the recent ones.

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Maybe that is how a bull slowly transforms into a bear, or goes roach, or BJA?
or turns into something totally different.. .like a bulldog?

When the world realizes it's the joos, bitcoin will go to zero because a permissionless digital token can't even exist. Silver will be the only thing guaranteed to keep its value. Woof, woof!

Get the fuck out of here with your nonsensical metamorphical theories Tongue Tongue



1100. Post 43018362 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 28, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Funny how either scenario could still reasonably play out (that is 1) early 2013 scenario or 2) late 2013 scenario).
Honestly, not even my sophisticated SOMA prediction engine has helped me any in figuring this one out.

Like most of us - and you in particular - I'm just trying to set myself up to fall on my feet in both cases of up and down. Sideways would require no special preparation, at least in my case.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 28, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Maybe that is how a bull slowly transforms into a bear, or goes roach, or BJA?
or turns into something totally different.. .like a bulldog?

When the world realizes it's the joos, bitcoin will go to zero because a permissionless digital token can't even exist. Silver will be the only thing guaranteed to keep its value. Woof, woof!

Ahahahahaha.,....... Looks like an admission to me.

More like an exercise of style ;-)

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 28, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Yes, it could take another 3 months to play out to see if one view is more correct than another, or it could take another 3 years.. holy fuck.. hoping that it will not take another 3 years, but it is not an unreasonable (even though seemingly less probable) BTC price dynamic playing out. 

I sure hope it's not going to be 3 years. Honestly, I doubt it will, but what do we know?



1101. Post 43077495 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: jonoiv on July 29, 2018, 10:09:31 AM
Bitcoin difficulty change: 14.88%. This is big!  Wink
A bit bigger than the June 5th change, which was followed by a drop from 7600 to 5800.

I thought difficulty follows the price usually, but not vice versa.
We're going through strange times, where difficulty goes up and price goes sideways. There might be some trick performed by hashrate monopolists to cut out the small fish. I mistrust the recent statements about transparency of shipping made by some miner vendors. Call me ill minded if you please.



1102. Post 43220938 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 31, 2018, 08:19:10 AM
P.S.: As soon as neutrino mode is out and stable I will also be running my little node. Probably there's much more people thinking the same so I guess that's when the thing will explode.

Is neutrino mode a light node for LN? Can you post some useful links? I lazily looked it up on github, but the info is scarce.



1103. Post 43427032 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

... and the next one?



1104. Post 43427260 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: bones261 on August 03, 2018, 10:38:33 PM

Definition of a bear market:  stupendously good news doesn’t move the needle.

Meh, more future derivatives? More excuses for whales to short this shit to the ground.  Cry

I agree with Hairy on this (as is often the case). This is a derivative backed by real btc reserves - maybe that's why it has such a short expiry (daily). I guess it will have optional automatic rollover.

Starbucks, Microsoft and others backing the project won't win any popularity with older bitcoiners, such as the people participating in this discussion, but they could do much for those who know little or nothing about cryptocurrencies. Adoption can only increase.

And once the cat is out of the bag, it won't take long for some of the smarter ones to wise up and understand the simple concept "private keys in my own hands or it's not my own money". Which in turn will debunk the greasy talk about "necessary trust" spread by some of those weasels.

It's all for the best.



1105. Post 43428756 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: bones261 on August 04, 2018, 12:42:37 AM

I agree with Hairy on this (as is often the case). This is a derivative backed by real btc reserves - maybe that's why it has such a short expiry (daily). I guess it will have optional automatic rollover.

Starbucks, Microsoft and others backing the project won't win any popularity with older bitcoiners, such as the people participating in this discussion, but they could do much for those who know little or nothing about cryptocurrencies. Adoption can only increase.

And once the cat is out of the bag, it won't take long for some of the smarter ones to wise up and understand the simple concept "private keys in my own hands or it's not my own money". Which in turn will debunk the greasy talk about "necessary trust" spread by some of those weasels.

It's all for the best.


Good grief. What soccer mom wanting to score a chai latte with two shots of vanilla is going to give a shit about cryptocurrencies? Furthermore, is Microsoft going to notice that I am running my Electrum wallet and start giving me notices to start using their shit wallet?  Cheesy

You are always on the pessimist (realist?) side, Bones!

Not all soccer moms are that dumb. Let some of them have their "starbucks bucks" hindered from movement once, and some of them at least will see - and spread the word. When it's about our own money, I think it's much easier to spend the necessary mental energy to make ourselves more educated. I trust human nature about this at least.

As for Microsoft pushing you to leave Electrum for Microsoft SafeLocker, it's an unavoidable part of the deal, but relatively harmless in my opinion. It could even force Microsoft to provide better software to face competition. As a parallel, consider Internet Explorer: it had an easy game at the start, with all the apes adopting it out of sheer ignorance, but it was eventually pushed into irrelevance by the likes of Mozilla and Google, to the point where they recently had to rebrand it with a new name - while improving it at least a little along the way.

I remain optimistic about this issue, if it actually goes on without breaking.




1106. Post 43446038 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

I've taken the test a few times, and I consistently come out as ENTP-A. Only once I had a different result, but I can't remember what it was. I must have been under the influence Smiley



1107. Post 43448492 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on August 04, 2018, 09:28:02 AM
I wonder how long my 21k page post will stay on page 21k.



If that's true why's my post moved back to page 20999?

Mine hasn't yet Tongue



1108. Post 43545698 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: Torque on August 05, 2018, 05:15:29 PM
If you think of the Nov-Dec rally as simply a beacon to the rest of the uninformed world (like "Hey, I'm Bitcoin, something you didn't even know about!) then it did its job.

Bitcoin is now in the back of *everyone's* mind. But currently they're all focused on other stuff.

What comes next is gonna be epic.

I share this view wholeheartedly. What we don't know right now is the "when", or what happens before that, or other details such as when the exponential long term curve will start to flatten down into a more or less constant horizontal slope. But whatever happens next to the current phase, it sure is going to be epic. Imagine just a couple of runs in the same league as the latest one to 19k. I suspect ater such an event, a bitcoin stash in the double digits will be enough to be among the wealthy, if not among the rich.



1109. Post 43547999 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: Biodom on August 05, 2018, 07:15:34 PM
Bitcoin is now in the back of *everyone's* mind. But currently they're all focused on other stuff.

What comes next is gonna be epic.

Agree, and that's why I see NYSE/Starbucks as fiat head honchos "counterattack" against bitcoin.
They are trying to put a middleman in the middle of bitcoin, especially when Microsoft, known for it's "embrace and extend" credo, is involved.
Granted, Microsoft has been able to "embrace and extend" (corrupt) several things in the past, but I think this time is different. It's not bloated/dangerous HTML mail, or an inferior browser, or a nosy operating system. It's something that looks very much like money. The user's own money. As long as bitcoin works as money, the users will be able to see through all the corporate nonsense - in the worst case, via some smarter friend's eyes.

- So you can't spend your Starbucks bitcoins at Amazon? Ah, it's your Microsoft wallet that won't let you. You know, I always instantly redeem all my credit through my own LN node, directly connected to Starbucks. Not my keys, not my money, that's what the geeks taught me...

How long before this awareness invades mainstream channels such as Facebook, and everyone and their dogs can see the light? How long can such a scam survive? The hypothetic MS/Starbucks/whatever cartel had better compete by adding real value to their service, like an advantage on exchange rate for funds kept/spent with them, or some kind of fidelity bonus for people who comply with their centralized agenda. That's why I think they could ultimately help more than hinder.



1110. Post 43549463 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 05, 2018, 08:12:13 PM
We can experience our 85% and greater correction at a later date.  There is no problem with that, and no reason that such further and additional correction might not take place at a later date.

I will take the 85% drop from 250k to 37.5k like a man. No whining, I promise!



1111. Post 43556877 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: Biodom on August 05, 2018, 11:12:38 PM


If they hypotheticate and re-hypothicate the s-t out of bitcoin like they did with gold, than it would not be bitcoin anymore, but something else.

@gentlemand posted this elsewhere:
https://www.ccn.com/interview-wall-street-vet-warns-of-ice-bringing-bad-banking-practices-to-crypto/

If it's really "bakkt" by verifiable crypto collateral, bad banking practices have no hope.



1112. Post 43558523 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: Biodom on August 05, 2018, 11:31:21 PM

If they hypotheticate and re-hypothicate the s-t out of bitcoin like they did with gold, than it would not be bitcoin anymore, but something else.

@gentlemand posted this elsewhere:
https://www.ccn.com/interview-wall-street-vet-warns-of-ice-bringing-bad-banking-practices-to-crypto/

If it's really "bakkt" by verifiable crypto collateral, bad banking practices have no hope.


verifiable? Theoretically, my stock at the brokerage is mine too. Do I know who it was re-hypotheticated to?
Absolutely not, and there is no way to find out.
It would become the same gimmick sooner or later, when "bakkt".
An important difference between stocks and crypto is that with blockchain tokens it's possible to design a multisig protocol to avoid multiple uses of the same tokens. Of course, it remains to be seen if they will go to such great lengths to make sure all paper coins are "bakkt". But that could be a way to add "trust" to the system, as someone of them was blabbering.



1113. Post 44894230 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

I've been far from bitcoin for a while. It's necessary for me once in a while - to keep some sanity.
Now I'm catching up with the posts, and I'm still 100+ pages behind, around August 8-9.

I know what happened later - yes, on coming back to the WO I've taken a good look at the charts. It's kind of entertaining to see the developments reflected in the posts here. Except for Rosewater's breakdown, I mean.



1114. Post 44895694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Allright I'm reviving old posts, but I just saw it now.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on August 10, 2018, 06:29:13 PM
Good time to go to Turkey on holiday, cheap as fuck, been twice. Food is a bit shit but weather is great & beaches are nice.
Been planning to get my teeth done there next year by a well known company out there, full set of pearly white veneer’s, very cheap when compared to UK/US prices for similar work.
What's the totty like though?

Women in urban Turkey (I mean Istanbul or Izmir) aren't generally covered with burqas. At least they weren't last time I was there - a few years back, but already under Erdogan rule. The ones I met were of surprisingly, hm, liberal customs. Maybe it's because they're used to men who are arrogant and take them for granted? A decent attitude, a little wit and a vague hint of gentleness (gentle as in "gentleman") got me much more than I was expecting, in both quantity and quality.

Maybe it's different in places like Antalya, though.



1115. Post 44908045 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: jojo69 on August 30, 2018, 02:08:31 AM
just wait till you get to the tentacle porn eddie

Still haven't got that far, but I can't wait!

And thanks for the merit - to Bob too! It makes for a warming welcome feeling on return <3



1116. Post 44970376 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: d_eddie on August 30, 2018, 08:49:31 AM
just wait till you get to the tentacle porn eddie

Still haven't got that far, but I can't wait!

(30-40 pages further down the road... working my way slowly, I know, but life is keeping me away)

Oh, now I see. The mainstream definition of "tentacle porn" didn't give me a hint about the delicacy found by Last of the V8s. A gem, as usual. Well, I'll have raw octopus too, please.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on August 23, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
someone ordered the seafood surprise?





1117. Post 44970740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: Torque on August 23, 2018, 10:00:44 PM


imo, This is HUGE


It may be huge (to us who like fairness, honesty and transparency), but sadly it means the whale traders probably won't care to trade it then.

<Sigh>

Huge or not, it all depends on how they manage transparency on the delicate re-hypothecation issue. That would entail devising some half-clever multisig protocol where, for example, the original owner's consent is needed for moving collateral outside of a predetermined set of addresses. Some of us (including me) are still skeptical on the sidelines, waiting for more details.



1118. Post 44990733 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: jojo69 on August 31, 2018, 03:49:03 PM

(30-40 pages further down the road... working my way slowly, I know, but life is keeping me away)

Oh, now I see. The mainstream definition of "tentacle porn" didn't give me a hint about the delicacy found by Last of the V8s. A gem, as usual. Well, I'll have raw octopus too, please.


ahhh, but now you are in for 20 pages of ass eating

Eating? Who talked about eating??



1119. Post 44991864 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 26, 2018, 07:15:46 PM
On the flight to Barcelona .... time for a little gambling and poker tournaments  Grin
So come on BTC give me a holiday (short trip) PUMP followed bu a weekend pump and its all fine by me
Hope to visit a few good resto’s as well there

let BTC follow my Rollercoaster tattoo as i take off in 5 MINUTES first destination the sky Grin
ooh Pulpo Galetto yum

hungry now

NO man ain’t Going for that shit ..... Will be eating few BTCworthy meals  Roll Eyes

(Wouldn't that be Pulpo Gallego?)

I suggest you reconsider. You love lobster, right? Chances are pretty high you'll also like the humbler but sophisticated (working-classy  Cheesy) Galician style octopus. Try it.

Since you also seem to like quality wines, I would suggest a slightly tart white wine to wash the tentacles down - like a German Riesling, or a decent Sauvignon blanc, or a working-classy vinho verde (branco) from neighboring Portugal.



1120. Post 45111097 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: kurious on September 02, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Solzhenitsyn was no literary genius (not that anyone explicitly claimed it). Just the content is quite interesting to carcerophiles etc

You're not wrong, he hasn't the stature of the real greats, nor stood the test of time perhaps, but hey he scrapes an honourable mention, if only for reflecting life in a totalitarian state.  'Worth a read' is about right.

Besides, it's much easier to read нa pyccкoм than, say, Tolstoy. And way shorter.

(Respect to Hairy!)



1121. Post 45124034 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

The small swings are getting a little wilder - faster and somewhat jittery. Does it mean anything? What's cooking? I hope it isn't the mammoths stirring.

I closed my long time short w/decent profit and reopened it, a smaller position at a somewhat lower (worse) level.
I also opened a long ladder, 2J's style (JJG and JB), at a much lower (better) level.
Who knows why, on the short term it's the long position that's worrying me more.
Call me paranoid.



1122. Post 45127374 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 03, 2018, 10:36:12 AM
^
the POLL will be looking nice when we get 5-digits back on it  Roll Eyes
+1

And I don't think it will be that long.



1123. Post 45132649 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Random thought re: the funny Monday spikes and dents, and the almost non-existent action. It's like a long weekend because of Labor Day. Market action, see you tomorrow.



1124. Post 45174115 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: bitserve on September 04, 2018, 09:33:38 AM
Bottom line the trend is clear, their BTC reserves are going down and bcash reserves are going up. Only one of those two is sustainable. And trends point to their BTC piggy bank already being exhausted. I'd love to short that turd on day one if they actually find enough idiots to carry them into IPO with those books. (How about we dump $10MM into illiquid market that we control thus bringing up our pre-ipo market cap by few billions! genius! Now who wants to buy these?)

Can't wait for the news, first blockchain IPO flaps on the opening day and "bitcoin" will die one more time

I have mixed feelings on this one. For once I have always been very critic with some (not all to be honest) of Bitmain tactics and, mainly, I think they are a menace due to their almost monopolistic control of the mining hardware (something that seems to be lowering though)... but, OTOH, I don't think a complete instant failure would be good.

I would very much prefer they just go slowly down into irrelevancy over the years. The problem here is that they seem to be working hard to go belly up as fast as they can and that could have a negative short term impact on the ecosystem. Good thing their BTC reserves doesn't seem to be a huge threat right now as it would have been the case in 2017.

I am with bitserve on this one. To quote the greats, we need another shitstorm like we need a hole in our heads. And as long as it's impossible to produce an accurate estimate of their BTC reserves, we can't possibly know how many waves, and how big, their death throes can create.



1125. Post 45180283 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

It feels like a Monday. And it's an UP Monday! Smiley



1126. Post 45180895 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: Torque on September 04, 2018, 11:54:28 AM
OT - Warren Buffett thinks that stock buybacks are "the best use of capital"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/31/warren-buffett-explains-the-enduring-power-of-stock-buybacks.html

Translation:
"Instead of cap ex investing, companies should buyback their own overpriced stock shares with free money from the gov't so that they can sell them at an even higher price to the ignorant greater fool Average Joes in the future when the economy recovers!"

Gaslighting the public at its finest, lol  Roll Eyes

Buffett in particular has always been more careful than others with buybacks - insisting on a low price/book value ratio before actually buying back. But he recently pulled up the minimum threshold, as I'm sure you know.

Buffett's attitude is similar with regards to dividends. "Just sell some," he says.

The guy's biased as an old school cobalt tape, but he is no dummy and does know about value - at least in his old-school stocks and securities realm.




1127. Post 45188201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 04, 2018, 03:07:20 PM
Well gentlemen, on this positive note I must beg my third extended absence from the thread this summer.  Got to go stack up some fiat for the dip, be the better part of two weeks.

Catching back up really is a chore, if you all could keep it to, say, three pages per day that would be great.

As always, don't kill crypto while I'm out.

Hope the two tweeks will be made of good days. Oh, and make it a big stack if you can.

As for keeping it under 3 pages, a large ignore file helps. Not that I have one. My last catch-up game has lasted almost a full week. No fun. If there are octopus/squid news, I'll keep you updated Wink



1128. Post 45188314 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: gembitz on September 04, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
OT - Warren Buffett thinks that stock buybacks are "the best use of capital"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/31/warren-buffett-explains-the-enduring-power-of-stock-buybacks.html

Translation:
"Instead of cap ex investing, companies should buyback their own overpriced stock shares with free money from the gov't so that they can sell them at an even higher price to the ignorant greater fool Average Joes in the future when the economy recovers!"

Gaslighting the public at its finest, lol  Roll Eyes

Buffett in particular has always been more careful than others with buybacks - insisting on a low price/book value ratio before actually buying back. But he recently pulled up the minimum threshold, as I'm sure you know.

Buffett's attitude is similar with regards to dividends. "Just sell some," he says.

The guy's biased as an old school cobalt tape, but he is no dummy and does know about value - at least in his old-school stocks and securities realm.



Buffet says buy bitcoin it's better than any derivative Wink weeeee

Better than its derivatives, allright. It's the devil and doomed to fail anyway. We all know 90 year olds really get this new magical internet money tech, don't they?



1129. Post 45196153 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: podyx on September 04, 2018, 06:15:47 PM
Anybody know if there is any place to get 10x and 20x leverage?

Okcoin doesn't seem to have it anymore  Embarrassed
Bitmex does 100.

All the long/short rekts published (among others) by Boblawlaw are just a coincidence  Grin



1130. Post 45222992 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 05, 2018, 07:29:53 AM
For those of you who don’t venture into Meta, they currently have a poll running - Most entertaining person on btctalk - 3 votes per user - Some of you guys are listed as options!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

Bob and V8 are there. This is no surprise.
And "young" micgoossens is on the list too!!  Shocked  Grin Grin Grin I see another legend in the making. Well, a hero at least.

No Hairy, though. And Jimbo is missing, too. I find his "Good morning bitcoinland"s and "Go bitcoin go"s refreshing, reassuring and soothing - if not exactly entertaining.



1131. Post 45223176 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: starmman on September 05, 2018, 10:22:00 AM
looks like price is dropping - do you think it'll hit $6k again?

I've seen a sharp, quick drop. My new short is in the green. The long is suffering a bit, but it gave some fruits already.

Mid-high 6k's are likely IMO (SOMA).



1132. Post 45224895 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

High 6k's, here we come.



1133. Post 45225443 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Barely over 7k again. I definitely feel the tree shaking. We're in for a fun weekend, starting tomorrow.



1134. Post 45225837 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 05, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
Barely over 7k again. I definitely feel the tree shaking. We're in for a fun weekend, starting tomorrow.

As in significantly down?
As in "if I only knew, I would be getting rich instead of posting here."

But SOMA, yes, I see some more downside, possibly with alternating ramps up.



1135. Post 45229716 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 05, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
Bitcoin Diamond   #REKT




That’s some serious fucking manipulation there

Yeah. It's the same shape I saw (on BTC-USD) a bit earlier, when I said:

Quote from: d_eddie on September 05, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
I've seen a sharp, quick drop.

(snip)

Mid-high 6k's are likely IMO (SOMA).

It didn't exactly take a wizard to know what was happening.



1136. Post 45229793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 05, 2018, 12:24:16 PM
My friend was talking about 4-4.3K ..... the real fear for Some hodlers that think they are real hodlers must be tested .... i was feeling to punch Him square in the face  Roll Eyes

I do not mind Going there but its my private BTC guru and from Him i only wanna hear BULLISH over BULLISH things
Its good his long term vision (big picture thing is extremely BULLISH)  but the man got a very good price feeling or whatsoever “he didn’t believe we are taking of yet - let Him be wrong  Tongue
I'm with your guru on this one. We need a little real capitulation. I'm afraid this is only foreplay.



1137. Post 45232220 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 05, 2018, 01:43:39 PM
however i am patient in this kind of things .... luckely  Grin
Patience is the key virtue for us.

As for the short term, if I were to go wild with SOMA predictions, I'd say I'm expecting a Bart upramp landing halfway down today's cliff. 71xx area.



1138. Post 45257762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: onaiwusun on September 05, 2018, 07:33:59 PM
Despite the market falling sharply today, I am still very bullish as regard  bitcoin price, I think recovery of the losses incurred today will be compensated before weekend

No time for that. Weekends begin on thursdays, didn't you know?

I was expecting mid-high 6k's up to now, but we're marching a bit faster than scheduled.

Brace yourselves, gentlemen. This might be a little rough.



1139. Post 45258780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: infofront on September 05, 2018, 08:26:30 PM
I advise everyone to go long on bcash with 100x leverage!

Hm, too late. I missed the (local) top already. But thanks for the advice.

Quote from: yefi on September 06, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
I thought we're not supposed to talk about alts in this thread? Cheesy

You need an activity over 1700, then your defence points will be high enough to deflect infofront's Bitcoin laser. You will incur some damage however, so give yourself time to heal.

I suppose infofront's activity is high enough to deflect his own laser, too. He just calibrates beam power below his own defence points, so he can shoot at will in any direction wihout any fear of stray reflections hitting him back. Mirrors are a bitch.



1140. Post 45276641 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: kingcolex on September 06, 2018, 10:44:50 AM
We have a Bart forming boys? Looks like if it forms we would jump back to $6900 area.
I was expecting the upBart yesterday, about $300 ago. There was no such move. I was expecting some more sliding, and there it was, faster than I thought. I doubt we'll see much UP action until Monday.

Disclaimer: as usual with SOMA, I might (and will) be wrong, but my play money is where my tongue is. And my play money (game started with the mammoth sightings circa March 2018) is quite happy.



1141. Post 45301611 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

I voted for this poll about the most entertaining person on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

I ticked Bob, V8 and mic. Wildly different styles, but all established wall observers and entertaining posters. There was no shortage of worthy alternative candidates, but someone who doesn't post at least semi-regularly in the WOT can't be too entertaining, now can they?

Bruno/yutucoin is leading at the moment.



1142. Post 45303808 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 06, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
I voted for this poll about the most entertaining person on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

I ticked Bob, V8 and mic. Wildly different styles, but all established wall observers and entertaining posters. There was no shortage of worthy alternative candidates, but someone who doesn't post at least semi-regularly in the WOT can't be too entertaining, now can they?

Bruno/yutucoin is leading at the moment.

I slidly had the same vote only didn’t vote myself but rosewater instead .... also all Wall observers  Roll Eyes
And enjoy there post as well ..... Grin

The Mayor is much more entertaining than despondent, closet-bound Rosewater. Quite another league. The Mayor League, probably.



1143. Post 45304737 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: Torque on September 06, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
'Cause whales want you to buy Bitcoin during a downtrend. Never during an uptrend (except near the next blow off top).

JJG could be a whale then  Tongue



1144. Post 45307262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 06, 2018, 10:14:28 PM
If BTC hits 6 figures this year, I'll blow everyone in this thread.

Slow yer roll there, big guy.  [praying for $99999.99 BTC, and not a penny more.]
No public BJ promises made in the WO thread have ever been honored as far as I know. Bitcorn can go as high as we like, and no mouth muscle will be involved.



1145. Post 45307474 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 06, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
'Cause whales want you to buy Bitcoin during a downtrend. Never during an uptrend (except near the next blow off top).

JJG could be a whale then  Tongue

It seems to me that the practice of buying on the way down and selling on the way up is a "well-established" practice.  It is certainly no original idea from me, I just happen to spout it off on a regular basis because I remain pretty strict in continuing to follow such a practice and I believe that it works quite well, especially for any asset that you expect to have strong long term fundamentals (i.e. bitcoin).

Gosh.. actual "whale" status would seem to require several thousand coins, no - unless the "whale" figures out a way to manipulate with smaller coin quantities, perhaps using smaller exchanges, and of course, being able to influence others through information could cause a lot lower coin requirement to reach "whale" status?

Actually I was just teasing  Grin

Buying on the way down and selling on the way up is the sensible thing to do for long term bulls - which, I guess, most of us are.



1146. Post 45307605 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2018, 10:26:52 PM
No public BJ promises made in the WO thread have ever been honored as far as I know. Bitcorn can go as high as we like, and no mouth muscle will be involved.

We need a trustless global BJ system

Indeed. And don't forget about distributed. Which would entail a number of, uh, operators alternating on the job, I suppose? Of course only a single lucky one will get to, hm, validate eventually - but the reward could be shared among all those in the pool.



1147. Post 45309257 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: bitserve on September 06, 2018, 11:31:32 PM
If BTC hits 6 figures this year, I'll blow everyone in this thread.

Saving this just in case.  

For us non-english speakers.... what do "blow" exactly means in this context?

I think it is important to set up the terms to avoid potential future misunderstandings.
Ooops.
Infofront's laser beam...
is THAT how he intends to blow us if it comes to that? Blow as in blow up?  Angry



1148. Post 45326298 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: Yaplatu on September 07, 2018, 08:47:18 AM

This news had nothing to do with the drop.

So why this drop  Huh

More people wanted to sell than buy at those prices.

"more people" is a wrong definition. A single whale can move the price.

That massive stash of Silk Road-linked coins moving to Finex/Binance might have had something to do with it.

~110 000 BTC which influences a market of ~17 250 000 BTC ? Mhhh not sure ...  Roll Eyes

Totally superfluous, but I'm going to +1 the answers given by Syke, LoyceV and Cassius.



1149. Post 45348684 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Well well, a sudden 125$ dive, some sideways, a $125 cliff up. Someone is having lots of fun.

This LeaningLisaSimpson(TM) pattern triggered a take profit limit on my short. After the price went back up, I reopened it a little lower (and smaller) than before.

One of these days, one of these shorts is going to get burned, I know. What matters is: how much will I lose? Not all of the profit, for sure. Besides, I've got a longer-term long position sitting there, waiting for the end of the tunnel.

I am no trader. Just a hodler with a twist. Don't follow my advice. More than anything, don't believe my SOMA predictions. They are Almost Always Wrong, Almost All the Time!

The truth of the matter is - I try to set myself up so I have opportunities in both cases, UP and DOWN. Is that still gambling? Well, probably. But playing poker (gambling) is quite unlike playing roulette (gambling).



1150. Post 45350509 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 07, 2018, 06:06:30 PM
I am totally looking at that ... menu  Roll Eyes
via Imgflip Meme Generator


Can you make something out of iT....?? Coming with matching wines offcourse First sauvignon is served as we speak

I think you chose turbot and mussels w/fennel?



1151. Post 45352312 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 07, 2018, 07:06:29 PM
This Just been served but menu is Just everything you read e and bob This evening iT had to be a little special cause i want my girl to come back To me  Roll Eyes LOL
Oh, I see, it's a set menu, multiple courses! My guess was based on wrong assumptions.
Turbot and mussels is what I'd eat with a Sauvignon (as opposed to tunafish & watermelon).
So you'll be served a Burgundy or something with your beef.
Looks like a substantial meal.
My regards to the lady.
I'm sure she'll come back ;-)



1152. Post 45372514 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on September 08, 2018, 02:25:39 AM
Totally spitballing here, but this sort of resembles September 2015, right before we doubled by November.

Just spit-balling here....
What do people here think drives the price of BTC (either direction) the most?

1. Adoption
2. Use methods
3. Scarcity
4. Technology
5. News
6. Rumors
7. This thread
8. Whales

And which are the most predictable events or follow a pattern? And if we could conclude one of these is the actuality, does the above statement ring true?

Scarcity (long term)
News (short term)
Whales (short-medium term)

and Human psychology (always) as infofront said, since all 8 sources except scarcity can be traced back to it, ultimately.



1153. Post 45380873 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: BonBuason on September 08, 2018, 11:30:49 AM

Unpleasant reality)
Just a picture. How funny! Really original and subtle.
And the discussion! The supporting arguments!
What an invaluable contribution to this thread.
We have so few posts, we really needed that.
Thank you!












NOT!


You ain't gonna make many friends here, man.


(Strongly inspired by JJG for the "NOT" pattern. Credit where it's due.)



1154. Post 45385967 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

No one is poking her with any stick, it seems.
A sideways weekend for a change?
Wait and see.



1155. Post 45408241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 08, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
I am playing around with Google Trends data of "Bitcoin" as a search term v Bitcoin price.  I used the daily values for each for 2018, converted to a percentage.  Start date is 1 January 2018, end date is 5 September 2018.

Price is orange, trend data is green.  


So, "absolute" is the number of bitcoin queries as a fraction of global Google use?

Hmm. I can't spot any pattern. Can you?

It would be nice to have the day scale in months/weeks rather than absolute numbers, with a few markers to put things into historical perspective.

The first peak in searches seems to anticipate the price. After that first event, the curves seem mostly uncorrelated. Maybe if we REALLY search Google a lot we could...?



1156. Post 45432559 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 09, 2018, 09:11:51 AM
I am playing around with Google Trends data of "Bitcoin" as a search term v Bitcoin price.  I used the daily values for each for 2018, converted to a percentage.  Start date is 1 January 2018, end date is 5 September 2018.

Price is orange, trend data is green.  


So, "absolute" is the number of bitcoin queries as a fraction of global Google use?

Hmm. I can't spot any pattern. Can you?

It would be nice to have the day scale in months/weeks rather than absolute numbers, with a few markers to put things into historical perspective.

The first peak in searches seems to anticipate the price. After that first event, the curves seem mostly uncorrelated. Maybe if we REALLY search Google a lot we could...?

I was of the opinion that google searches follow price (like in the FOMO period) rather than leading price.. in other words a lagging indicator.

I think where I am going with this is confirmation of a price trend.  If google searches don't follow an upwards price trend, then the price trend is suspect. 
I see your point, JJG and Hairy. It makes sense. But I can see such a confirmation only after the second spike - not the first. This doesn't make as much sense, does it?



1157. Post 45449325 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

No sideways after all. A small Bart at least, so we wouldn't feel alone.



1158. Post 45511126 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Just a little perspective.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 12, 2017, 02:31:51 AM
Feels like lift off. Everybody hand me your pants. No time to explain...

It was one year ago. Bitcoin was around $5k. That's nearly 40% year over year.



1159. Post 45511501 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on September 10, 2018, 11:12:08 PM
Pain and doom in the land of Alt has bought out all the worst shills and trolls ... they hate us cause they ain't us.

ETH is the biggest nothingness in crypto and will go back to what it is worth ... about nothing. Not one of these alts has a use case that bitcoin cannot do natively, with sidechains or other second layers ... maybe namecoin.

One of my friends is a computer guy and understands what crypto is all about. He was an Ethereum enthusiast. It wasn't the financials that excited him, but the idea of DAPPs and the concept of Turing completeness.

I replied that Turing completeness baked into the chain is a recipe for disaster, or at least a liability. However, this line of reasoning never scored a point with him.

He'd heard about the DAO, but not the last chapter. I told him the end of that story. His first actual crypto purchase was a bit later, and he's a bitcoin hodler now. As in bitcoin only.



1160. Post 45511560 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 10, 2018, 10:56:01 PM
Oh I don't know dude, how about a medium of exchange?

Some days I wonder if "store of value" is what I signed up for when I started working with Bitcoin. The idea at the time was to be able to collect payments and buy stuff using something other than Paypal and dollars.

Now.... Still use it for that, but it's more complicated.


Get out of here (notice the absence of an expletive)

Please don't lose the expletives!



1161. Post 45541536 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

All we need is a little patience. Honey badger doesn't want his balls stepped over. Just forget about the price for a while. My medium-term SOMA prediction for today is we'll have to grind our teeth until the end of September. Futures and stuff. But the end of 2018 will be nice, very nice. Because reasons.

Of course, SOMA predictions can change any minute! It's like a medium term weather forecast, only much more fun.

SOMA Predictions(TM) - Don't listen to them, for ANY reason! Almost always wrong, almost all the time!



1162. Post 45545136 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Slides and ramps. Barts with lower lows. Grind your teeth, gentlemen, and hold tight.

Note: I have trouble spelling "hold", in all contexts. I'm afraid I'll give away a big clue to some keen observer one fine day.



1163. Post 45574254 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: mindrust on September 12, 2018, 09:45:58 AM


and maybe without any phone or laptop nearby  Roll Eyes

Am I going insane? I thought it was a bj Grin

+1
First thought: "Is she so ugly he's got to hide her face from the camera?"



1164. Post 45683735 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Still sideways. At a slightly higher level, and possibly with slightly wider swings, but still sideways.
As if it's not the weekend already. Sideways weekend? I don't buy it.
I'm kind of hoping for a swing - either up or down. It doesn't matter much since it will be reversed by Tuesday.
A bit more wait and see.

@Hairy - I didn't have the guts to gamble even 10% of my play money by shorting Eth, even if I value your hunches. When I get a fit and try to day trade, I'm always late, so it's a "control the losses" kind of game. Not entertaining at all for me.



1165. Post 45683850 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on September 14, 2018, 12:14:41 AM


I find it appropriate that the comparison is between Ethereum, a scammy shitcoin, and overpriced low-quality Apple garbage.

Fitting.  Cool

Ha!
+1 WOsMerit
(as if you need any).



1166. Post 45686513 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: ivomm on September 14, 2018, 03:31:51 PM
I didn't have the guts to gamble even 10% of my play money by shorting Eth, even if I value your hunches. When I get a fit and try to day trade, I'm always late, so it's a "control the losses" kind of game. Not entertaining at all for me.

Hahaha, this is so me!  Grin +1 merit  Wink

So I'm not alone! Feels good. And thanks for the merit Smiley

Quote from: crypmike on September 14, 2018, 03:56:38 PM
Mike Novogratz Says the Cryptocurrency Market Has Found a Bottom


https://twitter.com/novogratz/status/1040288811643809798

I'm afraid if he says this... the new bottom to happen soon

He's a pretty good contrarian indicator indeed. Lows and more lows on the SOMA horizon. And highs and more highs. All within a 1.5k-2k$ spread. (SOMA = I've got no clue, don't heed my dreams).




1167. Post 45686635 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 14, 2018, 03:35:48 PM
@Hairy - I didn't have the guts to gamble even 10% of my play money by shorting Eth, even if I value your hunches. When I get a fit and try to day trade, I'm always late, so it's a "control the losses" kind of game. Not entertaining at all for me.
Good thing, it went up the last few days. Lots of whales in that pond, I barley got out with my skin last time I tried that. Lol took 4 months and I had to keep everything locked up during the BCH split so I got no free coins. Lesson learned. Smiley

I see. So once again I was late indeed. Lesson learned, here too ;-)

Nice of you to tell me about that: I haven't even followed ETH so closely after chickening out of daytarding. Closely watching something I refrained from trading is a sure recipe for either bad blood or some afterthought with losses.



1168. Post 45687657 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
@Hairy - I didn't have the guts to gamble even 10% of my play money by shorting Eth, even if I value your hunches. When I get a fit and try to day trade, I'm always late, so it's a "control the losses" kind of game. Not entertaining at all for me.
Good thing, it went up the last few days. Lots of whales in that pond, I barley got out with my skin last time I tried that. Lol took 4 months and I had to keep everything locked up during the BCH split so I got no free coins. Lesson learned. Smiley

I see. So once again I was late indeed. Lesson learned, here too ;-)

Nice of you to tell me about that: I haven't even followed ETH so closely after chickening out of daytarding. Closely watching something I refrained from trading is a sure recipe for either bad blood or some afterthought with losses.
I have done small amounts of day trading and just lose my ass most of the time. I just don't stick with it or refuse to lose a bit in case I get screwed on a spike or dip and then just end up holding.

More of us here than I thought  Grin



1169. Post 45689587 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: jbreher on September 14, 2018, 05:11:59 PM
Really I wouldn't expect that from you. Bcash was so obviously being propped up by Bitmain, Roger and Craig that I expected nothing to come from it once Bitmain stopped their losses.

I don't much give a damnn what Bitmain, Roger, and Craig do.* For my part, BCH has the properties that made bitcoin great to begin with. Scaling in a logical fashion, and free of the Segwit virus. From my perspective, it is simply technically better than BTC. Hopefully, the world will awaken to this.

* Well, I hope they keep mining it. Though, the DAA allows for drops in hashpower to be relative non events.**

** Unlike BTC, which lacks this safeguard.
I for one much prefer the virus of segwit rather than the cancer or Jihan and Roger. I wouldn't make debatable transaction methods a hill to die on especially with leaders like that.

They are not leaders, so much as fellow travelers.

They each likely own several times the BTC that you own as well. Does this mean you are going to abandon BTC?

Didn't think so.

Some consistency, please.

Here's one of your deft rhetorical tricks.
You see, it's not about how much BTC or BCH some guys have. It's more about the BTC/BCH ratio. Or the history behind.

edit: Kingcolex wasn't tricked, either. He beat me to it.



1170. Post 45698716 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: bones261 on September 14, 2018, 09:24:06 PM
Well, if Jihan and friends have their way, BCH will never have the most accumulated SHA256 work. They are hinting around that they want to decrease the block times to 1 minute and perhaps implement POS.
He's got plenty of hashpower on hand. It's only natural he'd be better off allocating as large a fraction as possible to the more valuable coin. Also, POS can be a very good thing. For those that hold the absolute majority of tokens, at least.



1171. Post 45745146 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 15, 2018, 08:07:31 PM
It's all so confusing... I thought Trump was the commie with all the Putin dick he sucks.
What's Putin got to do with communism?



1172. Post 45770949 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

At the moment, the wisest thing to do IMO is to stay market neutral (basically: flat or hedged). A bit more suffering, my friends. Not sure it's really going to be late 2018/early 2019, but the rewards will be handsome.



1173. Post 45781416 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on September 16, 2018, 02:39:02 PM
No pain, no gain.
This doesn't feel painful what's painful is the wife making me sell for the down payment on a home and soon. I'm going to lose out big.

understadble ,you would like to delay the house buying a bit for sure, but women stays women ,nothing to do about that


Personally I’d wait until mid 2021. I’d rent a couple more years & then buy the house outright in bitcoin.

Everybody has different circumstances though.

Right into the next housing bubble burst ... That would be nice timing  Grin

haha bubble burst and BTC ATH , what a moment would that be .......
if possible i would wait to but i know if the girl/wife wants it ..... than it has to go fast and no time for logic

Ain't that the truth about the logic  Cheesy
Not to be a sexist dick, but the ladies should be kept unaware of crypto holdings. It allows easier thinking in times of trouble. If really, really necessary, one could sell what's needed and magically come up with the money when it's needed.



1174. Post 45785774 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 16, 2018, 03:23:37 PM
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This doesn't feel painful what's painful is the wife making me sell for the down payment on a home and soon. I'm going to lose out big.

sell your wive. Not your Bitcoins. She just cost ya  Grin

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She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.

Really, you should shove stg in her mouth to shut her up.

never forget we are BTC-gentleman always with respect for our lady's ...... to come up with magical MONEY is a good one , but my lady hodl's as well  so i'm fine when it comes to BTC  Grin
You're lucky to have a hodling lady. Anyway, I like your style Smiley



1175. Post 45786080 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 16, 2018, 03:47:45 PM

Not to be a sexist dick, but the ladies should be kept unaware of crypto holdings. It allows easier thinking in times of trouble. If really, really necessary, one could sell what's needed and magically come up with the money when it's needed.


QFT

Chicks are good at spending money not managing it.

I respectfully disagree. A woman wort her salt is indeed able to save money, just like a man - maybe with different patterns and occasional "slips", but in the same ballpark if not even better.

Now I'm talking from a statistical point of view, so there are bound to be outliers, exceptions and everything, but in my experience the issue with the average woman is risk aversion. Women do have a long term perspective - and they'd better have a good one, since they are less "spendable" as time takes its toll - but they tend to be much more conservative than men. So I can't imagine the average woman buying at 200 and not selling at 1000.



1176. Post 45798660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2018, 08:09:01 PM
This year my wife is on track to earn almost double what I earn - and I do pretty good.  Sounds like y’all need some highly educated, strong independent women.  It’s a lot easier to get where you want to go if you have two of you working together as a team.  
You are also a leftie. It's as expected.
...or luckier with women?

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
(same as above)
That makes you a dinky (dual income, no kids yet).
Wait, do we know this? Cause if no kids, then divorce is less lucrative.

If she earns more than him, divorce could turn into a financial nightmare for her.



1177. Post 45800784 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Volume thinner and thinner. It seems unusually low, even for a weekend.



1178. Post 45805515 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: vapourminer on September 16, 2018, 11:56:22 PM
Bored bored bored bored bored.

yup

im getting to the point of only checking the price every few days. soon it will be weeks between checks.

wake me up out of my stupor if anything interesting happens

ZZZzzzzzzz...

Thank you for nurturing the much needed capitulation.
Well gentlemen, let's get this done quickly.



1179. Post 45806181 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: bones261 on September 17, 2018, 12:52:39 AM
Bored bored bored bored bored.

yup

im getting to the point of only checking the price every few days. soon it will be weeks between checks.

wake me up out of my stupor if anything interesting happens

ZZZzzzzzzz...

Thank you for nurturing the much needed capitulation.
Well gentlemen, let's get this done quickly.

Meh, the next halving won't come until mid 2020. This might linger on until late 2019.
I don't like feeling you might have a point.



1180. Post 45830746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

And down we go.

I won't be surprised if we find ourselves the mid 5ks by the weekend.

Please, capitulate. Stop checking the price every minute, will you?

I will check it for you, don't worry.  O:-)



1181. Post 45840762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: kurious on September 17, 2018, 05:49:22 PM
Chucked you a supportive merit, I miss her (for I am pretty sure Tera was a she) too.  I also learned a few things from Tera's posts.

She was pretty good in 2013 / 2014 (and was hated) and was right to be bearish this time (and was hated again).  But she wasn't totally wrong, just coldly realistic - and IMHO much misunderstood.  The odd, sophisticated contrarian is actually a good thing at times. Opposing views, even if they are predicting 'pain to come' are wise to at least factor in, rather than simply shout down. Otherwise this thread is risking just being an echo chamber.
I agree Tera had a useful role. Not a shill or a one-way FUDder; not always right (who is?), not always wrong (even SOMA predictions are almost always wrong), but informed and intelligent. I also gave her a bit of bashing now and then, but keeping a hateless, rational, arguing attitude. Tera sounded more like a "she" back then in 2013-2014, quite less in recent times. It almost felt like the account had changed hands.

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I reckon BTC will inevitably exceed the last ATH by a lot in the end - but surely long term hodlers (of all people) have learned that there is never gain without pain.  It is just how it is - but it is also how the gain is truly earned.  If it was easy, every fucker would be rich.
Amen.
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So, Hairy - work on the charts and if you start to get it right, I for one will be grateful. OK, not for the pain, if that is what is due - but for an idea it might be coming? Sure.
Keep up the good work, Hairy!



1182. Post 45853081 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 18, 2018, 01:13:38 AM
"Going short" means using margin, right?
More or less, yes.

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Is there a way to still be a day trader without using margin?  
It's not a sharp yes/no matter, using margin. What actually matters is the leverage. If you're positioned below 1:1 margin, you're actually not "using margin" as common sense understands it.

If, unrealistically, you went short at 1:10 (0.1x leverage), that would mean using nominal 10$ chips each actually worth just 1$. Leverage under 1x can be considered a "negative" money multiplier because the money amount gets shrunk rather than blown up.

What realistically happens most of the time is positive leverage, like 1.2:1, 2:1 or 5:1. (1.2x, 2x, 5x). Or even 100:1, for that matter. In the latter case, you play with 1$ chips actually worth 100$. Null leverage means 1:1, because it's the neutral muliplier: "no multiply, no margin".

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So, if you are trader that does NOT use margin, then that would be selling, right now.  Either way (using margin to bet on down or selling right now), does not seem good to me.  But what do I know?  especially when it comes to profitably playing the dynamics of margin?

Using your play money to short with negative, null or slightly positive leverage can help you hedge your stash. You take a hit on your stash when the corn goes down, but you are rewarded on your play money if you cash out your short. A little sugar on the pill. A penny for your pain. I've been doing this a lot and I still am. Little bites here and there, but they do add up.

Of course, you have to let go of the short (probably using a stop loss order) if it begins losing too much. Hopefully, it will only be a dent in your overal profit made of little bites. The corn stole your last bite of play money profit, but that means your stash is growing in value again.

Once again, it's about finding a system that works for you. Setting your stops straight can help. At what price do I cash out? At what price do I give up and write the short off at a loss? By reserving major tweaking for special situations, you can get the luxury of carelessness, since you know your best and worst outcomes in advance.

Learn, rinse, repeat. Each learning session costs. Receivng lessons at bargain prices is quite valuable.



1183. Post 45880116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: kirreev070 on September 18, 2018, 04:42:44 PM
Going back to $6500 ?
It will be nice, I'm in long now.
I also closed my short again, with a moderate profit. I only closed about half of it near the bottom. The other half was closed by a stop loss, still in the green but barely. Now my historic long is all that's left. Not sure I'm going to play another leg down when/if the corn gets above my previous short entry point: the wind might be changing sooner than I expected.



1184. Post 45901663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: bitserve on September 18, 2018, 09:44:35 PM
If smart money is smart, they may be looking ferociously to the record pile up of BTC shorts, just waiting to be short covered by whales teasing the price upwards and upwards. If that cow can still be milked, why wouldn't they?

Because maybe they are expecting the pile of shorts to be even higher before rekting them for good? Smiley

Or maybe they (or their friends) are still accumulating. Justsayin'.



1185. Post 45905582 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Half-Barts rule the day on wimpy volume. Only the ramps show a little more trade.



1186. Post 45907739 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on September 19, 2018, 03:45:41 PM
Haven't seen The Mayor in a little while.

Hope he's doing OK.

Saw this on Twitter, and think I'm going to buy it.

Track down The Mayor on Halloween and chase him around his neighborhood whilst wildly swinging two absurdly oversized red dildos.

https://www.amazon.com/Dress-Up-America-Bear-Mascot/dp/B007XF9EZC


Poor chap. Chased by a spooky bear toting giant red dildos. He's going to be scared shitless. In his place, I think I would.



1187. Post 45910606 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: Wekkel on September 19, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
It may have been posted here already: https://hackernoon.com/state-of-bitcoin-fall-2018-9ccddba55e54

A lot of caveats but the general thesis is that we may still have some bear market months ahead of us.

Also some interesting metrics on potential Bitcoin valuations (no projections).
Long but interesting read, with facts and numbers.



1188. Post 45912940 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

A couple days ago I've closed my short with a modest profit without falling for greed. Past lessons are paying out. Now I couldn't help reopening a small position and shorting a very tiny little at the local top. If it blows up, I'll gladly pay what's due when it reaches, say, 10-12k. My long will more than make up for it  Grin



1189. Post 45913201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

It feels like whales are out for limit hunting. Shake down, wait. Shake down, wait. Shake down, wait. Shake up! The only way I know to get through times like this is to stay flat or to keep very small, underleveraged positions.



1190. Post 45948056 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on September 20, 2018, 01:51:12 PM



Cute cartoon, but I find it promotes a ridiculous narrative.

The idea that BCH will fail and crush alts could be somewhat true.  But the implication that it will weaken BTC is ridiculous.  The really goofy part is the idea that Ethereum is somehow a safe haven with a clear road is ludicrous.




I could be wrong (like many times before), but I think you're the only one who made those three conclusions.


I am super unique!

My interpretation:

The aVerlanche is going to bring BCH down where it can join the rest of shitcoins.
BTC will remain strong and the only one at the top.
Ethereum is a user friendly (paved road) playground. Anyone with a couple of hours spare time can create a useless token on top of it.

I like it.  It is a better story than mine.
Closer to the general vision here probably, but yours made for a more satisfying read emotionally!



1191. Post 45985027 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Nice wakeup move. It might still be phony. I'm waiting for 7.5k for partial confidence. My SOMA prediction is it will deflate quickly, and we'll get the usual sideways or downward weekend.

Straight Off My Ass predictions - Almost always wrong, almost all the time!



1192. Post 45985080 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

On a separate note, I've updated bitcoind to v0.16.3 already a few days ago - as soon as I saw the soft warnings on the header here. Have we all?



1193. Post 46020702 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 21, 2018, 09:32:53 PM


Rationale:  we are going to stick our head above the trend line again to hunt short stops, and then drop back down again. 
That's the way I see it too, and that's what seems to be happening now. We could peak a little higher still, though.



1194. Post 46092857 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 23, 2018, 08:43:14 AM


Rationale:  we are going to stick our head above the trend line again to hunt short stops, and then drop back down again.  
That's the way I see it too, and that's what seems to be happening now. We could peak a little higher still, though.

Some of you supposed inner bulls are a bunch of sour pusses, and makes me NOT want to hang around with you nor to introduce you to my friends because you are making the parade less fun... ...  Tongue Tongue    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Didn't Tera beara have that tendency?
We need some critical thinking to avoid the echo chamber effect. Some of us are taking turns carrying that heavy load on broad shoulders.

In other words: get the fuck out of here with your nonsense about sour pusses.  Tongue Tongue



1195. Post 46131508 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Resistance being tested ~ $6530

Edit:  We are just not seeing good defence of the $6500 line.  Sad.


Yes we're going down. I wasn't expecting anything different for the new week, but I was hoping for a slightly more sizable run up before that.

Quote from: criptix on September 25, 2018, 12:16:45 AM
He we go, hello 6.4  Sad

100x short on bitmex  Tongue
My underleveraged short (< 1x) will be in the green soon.

Each time I close a short, the following high is lower. This makes me more and more cautious about opening a new short, but I did quite well to date. I'll be happy to pay when we break out of this pattern and the bull run starts.



1196. Post 46131604 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: ThePunisher49X on September 25, 2018, 01:06:11 AM
BTC Just broke the 200 EMA.
Lets see what it can do.
The bulls are pushing hard to keep it up but the money will run out. Embarrassed
It's possible that the money will run out for this round indeed.

However, give it some time. Wait for the apparent trend to invert - because of whaleplay, real life signals, or just plain tidal waves. The normies will come in like flies, and the MSM will be quick to remind them of past glories near 20k. There won't be enough rocket memes in the whole Internet then.



1197. Post 46143303 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: bitserve on September 25, 2018, 09:35:41 AM
Oh, fuck, we are poorer. What are we gonna do?!?!
There must still be some room in Rosewater's cabinet.



1198. Post 46163829 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Torque on September 25, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
November the 5th is when they start trading. Get ready for the new bull run.



I think this could be a game changer. But I pray that they don't down the road change the rules and corrupt this.

In theory, by holding clients' bitcoin accounts for them directly, they can fractional reserve the bitcoin they hold, have re-hypothecation, etc. Even phantom shares of bitcoin. So hoping it doesn't go that way.
One thing that could help would be to make "bank runs" (moving physical bitcoin out of customer accounts) an easy, quick, hassle-free activity by design (in Bakkt internal rules) and by law (file under "investor protection", which apparently the SEC really, really cares for).

Quote from: Paashaas on September 25, 2018, 07:06:43 PM
Bakkt is one of those ''First-Movers'' opportunity. It will be a financial powerhouse, doing business national ore international will save time and money for all party's. If they don't watch out they might be replaced with decentralised platforms later on.
Indeed. I hope this could make them wise up before attempting swindles or dodgy rules. However, I am quite jaded about this, especially since from what I've understood until now, Bakkt's intended customers are mostly institutional investors and other big money kind of actors. These are unlikely to trust - or likely unable to use - real faceless decentralized platforms.



1199. Post 46169903 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 25, 2018, 11:01:06 PM
Bitmex is the hot leggy redhead. She will give you the ride of your life, blow through every account you have, then trash your life by making you wrap your own car around a tree.

Worth every minute of it.

So you've met her too. Cheesy
Of course a chick like that will leave a few scars.
Worth every single one, as you say.
But if we learn our way around that tree,
we can turn back to a normal life with the other ladies
and still use her from time time.
No more crazy rides probably,
but she won't turn us down if we need a quickie.
Or two.



1200. Post 46193676 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

I've been sweating my lastest, littlest, enteredlowest hedging short.

With the small price surge, it was getting uncomfortably further away from the green. Luckily, a spout of volatility brought the price even lower than it was before. As soon as I went green, I placed a stop loss limit order that would close the position while still in the green, and a lower (better) take profit limit order that would grant me a nice bag of change when closing. The stop loss hit first, so my profit has been half of what it could be.

Now I'm left with my baseline long - not hedged if it goes lower, but ready to rock with no hedging penalty if the bull run comes early. Playing wait and see, as usual.

TL;DR These leggy redheads aren't too bad if you approach them with caution and undue respect. The other women are just so... uh, ordinary.



1201. Post 46207318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 26, 2018, 09:43:22 PM
The fuck does their Ipo have to do with a huge reliance on a complete shitcoin that can bankrupt them? Call me confused.

Bitmain has to pump its bags so it can exit.

Is this organic growth?


One word.
SHORT.



1202. Post 46207466 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

I'm also in (slight) profit, but getting out would be rushing it for me. I'm still trying to build the short up one bite at a time.

EDIT My timing this round was just lucky. As soon as I closed the BTC hedging short, she got up a little. I didn't reopen it, but I replaced it with a short on BCH. Not of the hedging type, though... Smiley



1203. Post 46220707 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: DaRude on September 27, 2018, 01:05:10 AM
The fuck does their Ipo have to do with a huge reliance on a complete shitcoin that can bankrupt them? Call me confused.

Bitmain has been bcash's life support from the beginning, and they started to run out of bitcoins to support bcash. Going IPO means they're raising more capital, which they'd undoubtfully burn to continue propping up bcash.
I don't know any details about the IPO, but I guess the new stakeholders won't be happy to burn fiat to save bcash. If I were old money, I wouldn't put any "real" old money (fiat) into an enterprise without being granted a reasonable degree of control.



1204. Post 46225862 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 27, 2018, 09:42:46 AM
Do you guys like Deribit? I only just got into it but the interface is so confusing. I can't set the leverage? Is it always on 100x? Someone explain cross margin and sub accounts to me.
I have never used Deribit, so I don't know about sub accounts. The term "cross margin" usually refers to the fact that your margin (deposited funds) is shared among all open positions, so the actual effective leverage depends on your total margin amount and the total size of all your positions - basically, total_positions/total_margin.



1205. Post 46226535 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: 4rt3m on September 27, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
What do you think about Bloomberg article about Bitmain?

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-09-27/bitmain-s-prospectus-reveals-a-lot-about-bitcoin-s-wild-ride?srnd=premium-europe


Interesting piece, less generic than the usual MSM article about crypto.

Quote
1. While Wu Jihan is the most famous name at Bitmain, co-founder Zhen Ketuan has a larger stake.
I didn't know that.


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4. Bitmain has been active with deals since June. Its purchase of a stake in Opera Ltd. values the maker of web browsers at $1.67 billion, making yet another unicorn.
I'd read about this only a few days ago. Opera used to be an innovative company. Their browser was arguably the best - surely the quickest and leanest of them all, fully customizable, and if I'm not mistaken, the first to feature browsing tabs in the early 2000's. However, they couldn't sustain developing their own rendering engine and dropped it for Google's, so now it's just a Chromium browser - and not the best of the pack.

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7. Last week I predicted that Bitmain’s high exposure to a very unstable industry could see heavy writedowns. That’s exactly what happened in the first half, hitting profits heavily.
Biggest Loser

Bitmain regularly loses money from its management of inventories and other balance sheet items. The first half of 2018 was particularly painful.
They will have to keep on delaying deliveries of new miners and enjoy their ius primae noctis to capitalize on mining advantage. If I were a customer pre-ordering mining equipment, I'd be very, very wary, even more so than before.

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Perhaps Bitmain’s biggest risk is its high holding of cryptocurrency, which far eclipses the company’s pile of fiat cash.
Crypto Heavy

Bitmain holds twice as much cryptocurrency as it does fiat.
The article doesn't detail how much of that is bitcoin and how much is bcash. I think it's an important piece of information.

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10. Taking such a large portion of its payments in cryptocurrency also has a big impact on its cashflow statement.
Old corporate money shouldn't like this too much. Free cash flow is too good to give up for magic internet money, especially if it's an altcoin. This might be the reason Bitmain stopped the "bcash only" policy for payments.



1206. Post 46231831 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Elwar on September 27, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
Looks like we're going down to $6450. Then back up to $6525. Then down to $6460. And up to $6515...and on and on...
What we're mostly concentrating on right now is: what happens once top meets bottom? Where do we break out to?



1207. Post 46239019 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: infofront on September 27, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
The fuck does their Ipo have to do with a huge reliance on a complete shitcoin that can bankrupt them? Call me confused.

Bitmain has been bcash's life support from the beginning, and they started to run out of bitcoins to support bcash. Going IPO means they're raising more capital, which they'd undoubtfully burn to continue propping up bcash.
I don't know any details about the IPO, but I guess the new stakeholders won't be happy to burn fiat to save bcash. If I were old money, I wouldn't put any "real" old money (fiat) into an enterprise without being granted a reasonable degree of control.

The current bcash pump is just to pump up Bitmain's Q3 balance sheet IMO.
As Hairy too suggested. And I agree. They can't even hint at burning money to pump bcash long term. Their investors wouldn't like it a single bit.

Furthermore, if I were an investor considering the IPO, one question I would ask would be about their supposedly valuable crypto reserves. How much of that is bcash? If I were an investor who's got a clue, I mean.



1208. Post 46241649 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: bones261 on September 27, 2018, 05:19:02 PM
We should make a list of dates for the BCH dump. Or a poll.


October 1 2018 at midnight China time.


Please pick one choice only.

A. You're too cynical!

B. I think so too.



1209. Post 46245179 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: pönde on September 27, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
This is a little off topic question. But I ask anyway.

Are most or all cloud mining services like https://iqmining.com/ scams? The one year payback time sounds too good.
They are. My advice is do not thouch.



1210. Post 46263649 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Torque on September 27, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
Curious thread about Bitmain IPO  https://twitter.com/katherineykwu/status/1045059356994269184





I'm thinking this whole Bitmain IPO document is a complete fabrication.

Why? Because if they really did make that much net revenue in half a year's time, then they'd never have a need to take the company public.

Period.
Unless that figure is 90% bcash.

Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-09-27/bitmain-s-prospectus-reveals-a-lot-about-bitcoin-s-wild-ride?srnd=premium-europe) says
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Bitmain holds twice as much cryptocurrency as it does fiat
And I suspect that it's even more than 66/33. Why? Because 90% of 2018 income was hardware sales, most of which likely payed in bcash. The exact published figures can be adjusted by slightly cooking the books.



1211. Post 46310272 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

I wasn't expecting this low volume sideways on this particular weekend. Was it just a fake movement in the pre-weekend? Hm, but not all futures have expired. Wait and see...



1212. Post 46311043 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Wekkel on September 29, 2018, 02:48:01 PM
Price has no clue anymore whatsoever. Traders be out and just watch what will happen.
Agreed. Let's have a pint on the sidelines.



1213. Post 46313082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 29, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
Price has no clue anymore whatsoever. Traders be out and just watch what will happen.
Agreed. Let's have a pint on the sidelines.

its saturday what where you thinking ?? haha

ok maybe not a pint , but some alcohols and food for sure ....... let it be itallian this evening  Grin
Have fun man, and don't forget to share the menu! Wink



1214. Post 46327040 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: infofront on September 29, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Here's a recent interview with a interesting character: https://breakermag.com/john-mcafee-is-73-very-stoned-and-running-for-president/
I'd love to see him debate the Donald, or the FBI. I really hope he runs for president. Of course he doesn't stand a chance - and he's smart enough to say it aloud and repeatedly, but can you imagine the fun?



1215. Post 46327071 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: drays on September 30, 2018, 12:53:32 AM
Tera admittedly had an INTJ personality, which means she would have neither definite female, nor definite male behavior. Well, closer to male, regardless of actual sex. INTJs are analysts with contrarian approach to everything.

I didn't read all of her older posts, but what I have seen during last half-a-hear, was not really bullish or bearish - just an objective analysis based on reality, without any bias.

I really miss her here, as she was one of the most interesting posters (to me at least), with fresh and independent approach to things. Without a contrarian its too easy for a group/thread to be deluded.
If she reads this (which I strongly doubt) I would ask to come back (if that doesn't make her health issues worse, of course).
+1



1216. Post 46351887 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: kirreev070 on September 30, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
DPRating compiled a rating of centralized crypto-exchanges based on the ratio of trading volume and users to IP.

Y U no Bitstamp?



1217. Post 46352027 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 30, 2018, 09:20:38 AM
the being formerly known as Last of the V8s

I am LA



you may refer to me as LA the Legendary
The precious bits of info you managed to dig out made you a legend already.
Not to mention the very fne ladies portrayed in some of your most memorable posts.
Way to go!



1218. Post 46373757 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

... and irregular, un-barty movement for btc. An interesting week is ahead.
Or, to put it the WO way, "The next week is critical."



1219. Post 46373925 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

On a related note, my gambling BCH short has grown in size and has been repositioned a bit higher. In the green now. I'm tempted to close it, but greed is a thing when I gamble (not when I hedge).



1220. Post 46388781 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on October 01, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/tether/noble-funding-cash-tether/
Oh rly? Shit -> Fan?

In other words, pick one.

A. Pre-bull FUD (all your cheepcoinz belongz to uz)
B. Real news, backed by facts
C. FUDNEWZ, partially backed or not 100% accurate



1221. Post 46388990 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 01, 2018, 10:35:41 AM

Massive 'Inevitable' Bitcoin Prediction Made By Malta's Prime Minister:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/10/01/massive-inevitable-bitcoin-prediction-made-by-maltas-prime-minister/#1aef35941b82

For some reason, Forbes refuses to load on all my browsers. It stops at the "consent" page (which doesn't render and stays blank). I turned off Adblock, too. Go figure.

Could you copy/paste at least the most relevant bits?



1222. Post 46389630 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Thank you, V8! Or should I say, TPFKALOTV8? LA?

But yes, very meh indeed.



1223. Post 46391843 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 01, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
getting sick last days .... always when i'm looking on twitter there are does f****** posts of paying with BCH in all those places and always roger ver liking those posts .... its getting retarded what they are trying
like there are so many accepting and willing to use this shit  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

nobody wanna use this shitcoin
Well I've used it in the past.
And I'm still using it now.

In the past: dumped the rainfall.
Now: shorting it.
 Tongue Tongue Tongue



1224. Post 46398166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Just bought s'moar. Dollar cost averaging on its way, especially on the way down as someone else has drilled into our collective heads  Grin

I hope my timing is lucky this time around. Not so much for the small advantage of buying slightly cheaper, but as a good start for a year final bull run in bitcoin's best tradition. Every moon climb begins by tackling a hill.



1225. Post 46403033 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 01, 2018, 06:23:22 PM

https://twitter.com/btcking555/status/1046830200372318213
Investors IPOwned... nothing to see here gents, please move along.



1226. Post 46405339 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: infofront on October 01, 2018, 06:54:10 PM
Lightning, or something extremely similar, would've been possible without segwit.
Indeed, some other fix to transaction malleability could have worked as well. However, covert ASICboost needed to be taken care of too, and other solutions wouldn't have solved that problem. Which is the reason why most bcashies were so strongly opposed to segwit.



1227. Post 46408194 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Meanwhile, it seems to me that the green candles are always on larger volume than the red ones. Something is stirring.



1228. Post 46409114 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on October 01, 2018, 10:45:05 PM
Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.
Capitulation NOW?
A contrarian move if I ever saw one.



1229. Post 46409572 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on October 01, 2018, 11:25:01 PM
I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...

I don't believe you a bit  Tongue



1230. Post 46464161 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 03, 2018, 11:15:01 AM
For what it is worth, here is the current chart I use for trading.  Current strategy is to attempt to open shorts at the orange down trend line.  The price at the moment has remained too low beneath the orange trendline so currently have no trades open (short from 28 September has been closed).  Support and resistance is too tightly packed for me to gain an acceptable risk/return on longs.  However a long position from $5,900 would be appealing.  

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/xAc2kWDL-Bitcoin-USD-Downtrend-state-support-and-resistance-analysis/

What I'm doing now is I closed my shorts too and I'm left with a long btc position, suffering a bit. However, liquidation would be under 2k, so my play money is safe for the moment. I may decide to take a hit if we go under 4k, but I'd buy physical bitcoin before that.

On the sidelines, I opened and closed a few gambling shorts on BCH. The last has just been closed. I'll reopen if its head peeks above 0.083 btc again. Which might not happen in the near future. Or it could, depending on IPO proceedings or Jihan's needs. At any rate, I have to thank the bcashies for the feeble pump. Do it again please! Can you take it above 0.1 for a while? Thank you.



1231. Post 46464221 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 03, 2018, 01:02:42 PM
Do people like these sentiment updates or are they dumb?


I like these sentiment updates, we need these rare on-topic posts Smiley

 We already have a sentiment indicator:  Rosewater Foundation  
He's more colourful, more accurate and much easier to read.

Rosewater is too peaky. I'd like a smoother RW statistic, like RWMA50 or something.



1232. Post 46466287 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: infofront on October 03, 2018, 02:04:46 PM
Bitcoin doesn't give a fuck what regulations we put on it. If it ever does, we'll just use Monero.

For crypto transfers, large or small, it's a good solution indeed. But if conversion to fiat is needed, it's back to KYC/AML one way or another.



1233. Post 46467550 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: infofront on October 03, 2018, 02:47:58 PM
Bitcoin doesn't give a fuck what regulations we put on it. If it ever does, we'll just use Monero.

For crypto transfers, large or small, it's a good solution indeed. But if conversion to fiat is needed, it's back to KYC/AML one way or another.

In several years, I'm hoping we won't need fiat conversion. But yeah, we're pretty much stuck in KYC/AML hell until then.
I'm afraid once fiat conversion is unnecessary, they'll move the tracking to the actual goods, as they're already doing for assets with substantial value, e.g., cars, real estate etc - as pointed out several times in recent posts.

In other words:
Quote from: bitserve on October 03, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
Crypto does not solve the laundering problem nor really helps in tax evading in a significant way.
... but creative corporate accounting does. Boxes inside boxes, that kind of stuff.



1234. Post 46472472 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Aby Normal on October 03, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
(snip)

Venezuela would have fast and cheap international money transfers independent from the Central Bank. If the people in Venezuela start using Petro in theirs everyday activities, it would be a big victory for whole crypto world. I'm kinda confident that they will use it since many of them depend on help sent from friends and relatives living in other countries and Petro would be cheapest and fastest way to do that, also they are prolly one of the top crypto-educated nations atm.
If I was a bankster I would be very worried now because if that works out fine for Venezuela then some other countries would follow as well Wink
Right, but I can already hear the choir of bankster FUD.

"See what they got to? That country began going to the dogs the day they revoked concessions to the big corporations, and it was downhill from there. Now they even lost control of their own money. It's going to be a hemorrhage, I tell you. See that we never get to that!"



1235. Post 46473076 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: bitserve on October 03, 2018, 05:35:19 PM
(snip)

Venezuela would have fast and cheap international money transfers independent from the Central Bank. If the people in Venezuela start using Petro in theirs everyday activities, it would be a big victory for whole crypto world. I'm kinda confident that they will use it since many of them depend on help sent from friends and relatives living in other countries and Petro would be cheapest and fastest way to do that, also they are prolly one of the top crypto-educated nations atm.
If I was a bankster I would be very worried now because if that works out fine for Venezuela then some other countries would follow as well Wink
Right, but I can already hear the choir of bankster FUD.

"See what they got to? That country began going to the dogs the day they revoked concessions to the big corporations, and it was downhill from there. Now they even lost control of their own money. It's going to be a hemorrhage, I tell you. See that we never get to that!"


The moment it is evident your word is worth NOTHING no one will ever trust you anymore. The moment Venezuela started expropiating corporates and revoking concessions no one would invest any single penny on it. That's not a case of bankster FUD, it's just reality... would you invest in Venezuela?

Petro will go NOWHERE. Remember it is not exactly a decentralised crypto... it is controlled by the Venezuelan government. So much for trust, uh?
I agree with you word for word, and of course Petro is not your typical crypto.
I wasn't defending Venezuela, though. It's undefendable in its current predicament.
My point was that I doubt there will much bankster worry.
The FUD bit is when the choir goes "see that we never get to that!" - with a hint at stricter crypto controls.



1236. Post 46476379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on October 03, 2018, 07:22:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cidZRD3NzHg George Gilder: Forget Cloud Computing, Blockchain is the Future
~transcript for d_eddie https://www.hoover.org/research/george-gilder-forget-cloud-computing-blockchain-future
Quote
Gilder argues that cloud computing, while it was the hot new technology ten years ago, has reached its limits as the physical limitations of big data storage centers maxes out. Improvements in parsing big data are incremental at this point, and it’s time for the next big technology to take its place. Gilder points to blockchain as the technology of the future, with its ability to prevent corruption and manipulation of transaction data and the infinite uses it could have in third world countries.
Gilder also discusses the history of technology, artificial intelligence, and the revolutionary bitcoin. He argues that artificial intelligence can never replace human intelligence and creativity and that in principle, it is impossible for machines to take over.
Thanks for the usual impeccable scouting, and for the personal touch of a transcript  Grin

"Blockchain as the technology of the future" though? That is almost right, but not quite. I think it's more like "bitcoin as the money of the future".



1237. Post 46480875 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

So by the bitfinexed theory, some significant price movement is to be expected.



1238. Post 46523062 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 04, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
help them find a cure for white-nose syndrome.  Let's hope it worked; it's time to call in a favour Wink


I repeatedly misread the link as "white noise". Figured out the poor bats, navigation blinded by noise, would go banging their miserable heads on walls and things.

Wall watching takes on a whole new twist in that context.



1239. Post 46545302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: AR_fan on October 05, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Classic bitcoin right now, always worst case scenario happening, its like the coin is thinking, How can I know who truly loves me? How can I know who's only with me for money? so right now scenario is faking a bottom close to 6k to trap most of the speculators before this support becomes a huge resistance and we find bottom way down from here

Bitcoin is very jealous, he only wants the best and strongest and most loyal holders; bitcoin wants someone that truly understand him; bitcoin is testing your loyalty every time; if you like bitcoin you stay with him for life and you love him whatever he does even if he plunges!

BE LOYAL
BE LOVING
BE HERE FOR HIM

Him??

It's a SHE, plainly.



1240. Post 46551300 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 05, 2018, 07:20:12 PM
Seems awful quiet 'round here.  

Who cancelled the weekend pumps, did Rosewater take them with him..?  We should have frisked him on the way out.

Probably. I guess right now is where people gave up and nobody wants to buy in. This might go on for a while. I wonder if bitcoin will ever experience huge pumps like in the past? Those were the days.... At best now we will only have a linear increase.

I feel more like:

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 05, 2018, 06:25:31 PM
The more I learn about investing the more I realize how little I know.  The pundits and talking heads don't know shit.  They're just as clueless as the rest of us.  The only difference is they're paid to pretend they know something.  Half the time their predictions are accurate...

Only, I know my SOMA(tm) predictions are almost always wrong, almost all of the time.



1241. Post 46554912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Here comes the pump
here comes the pump
it's allright

Little darling, it's been a long cold crypto winter
Little darling, it's been like years since 20k

Here comes the pump
here comes the pump
it's allright



1242. Post 46555416 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 05, 2018, 10:34:46 PM
BitMex right now...


Don't know why, this reminds me of the Mayor.



1243. Post 46572500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

We only got a pumpelet for now. Just to scratch the surface of boring.



1244. Post 46577028 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on October 06, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
At least a proper coin is leading the gainers section, soma (Straight Out of My Ass, copyrighted by Brewmaster). Brew, did you get naughty and made your own (shit)coin?
How dare he...!  Shocked  Angry



1245. Post 46588396 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Late for the merit party. Pity. Could use a few  Grin



1246. Post 46588723 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Wow... thanks guys. I can feel the love!! <3 <3 <3  Cheesy

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 06, 2018, 10:27:26 PM
Late for the merit party. Pity. Could use a few  Grin

You take my merit you bastard. Take it.

Never understood the merit system. Bunch of sods circle jerking each other for fake internet points on who the best circle jerker is.
More or less.
It's a status thing, small penis and stuff, just while I get my lambo.
Thanks at any rate  Smiley



1247. Post 46604458 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 07, 2018, 02:43:17 AM
I have considerable difficulties understanding any kind of investment strategy that buys while an asset is exploding 2x, 5x, 8x, 10x or greater, and then stops buying when that asset is lowering in price.
The strategy you describe sounds unwise indeed.

On the other hand, even if someone's bullish on a particular asset, it does make sense to wait for uptrend confirmation before buying a substantial chunk. In the case of bitcoin, which can explode 10x in short time spans, it's not unreasonable to wait for 2x before feeling confident it's a bull run, even for a medium-long term investor.

On the third hand (or is it one foot?), timing the market reliably is, as we know, impossible.

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Any sound investment should plan to budget in such a way that prepares for the down...
Hedging with shorts?  Wink




1248. Post 46689142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Recently, I've noticed a small but perhaps significant sentiment change. Bitmex bitcoin futures are now priced above the swap (which mimics and tracks spot index price). They've been under it for over a month up to approximately last Friday. Bullish (short term and mildly).



1249. Post 46700270 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: mfort312 on October 09, 2018, 08:35:40 PM
Hit the nail on the head:

Institutional Investors Are Using Back Door for Crypto Buys (1 Oct 2018)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-01/institutional-investors-are-using-back-door-for-crypto-purchases

Big Institutional Investors are Buying Large Amounts of Bitcoin in OTC Market (3 Oct 2018)
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/10/03/big-institutional-investors-are-buying-large-amounts-of-bitcoin-in-otc-market/

Bitcoin is now a rich man's game.
Indeed.

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1. First rule of Institutional Bitcoin: you don't talk about Institutional Bitcoin.
Or publicly keep a skeptical attitude about fancy internet money, or even spread FUD. Until your bank is found red-handed. At that point, just keep a publicly skepical attitude. Or even disseminate some doubt-generating mud.

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4. SHORT futures like mad and then SODL at the peak.
The only problem I have with this point is: do you close the mad shorts (buy btc) or do you take a loss?

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Quote from: Articles
According to Cho, high net-worth individuals and institutions are using the OTC market to process trades that exceed $100,000, which based on the current price of Bitcoin at $6,500 is around 15.38 BTC.

(snip)
An enlightening read.

IMO your analysis is spot on, as it often happens.



1250. Post 46700544 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Here's an excerpt from the second link provided by mfort a few posts above.

Big Institutional Investors are Buying Large Amounts of Bitcoin in OTC Market (3 Oct 2018)
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/10/03/big-institutional-investors-are-buying-large-amounts-of-bitcoin-in-otc-market/

Quote from: newsbtc
When Will it Show on Bitcoin Price?

If institutional investors are acquiring large amounts of Bitcoin in the OTC market, it should have a noticeable impact on the cryptocurrency exchange market and the price movement of major digital asssets.

However, over the past two months, the cryptocurrency market has demonstrated stability and struggled to initiate large movements on the upside.

As Circle, Coinbase, BitGo, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and other major financial institutions that either have already launched crypto-focused custodian solutions or plan to offer crypto custody in the short-term begin to serve an increasing number of institutional investors in the months to come, investors expect the value of cryptocurrencies to increase accordingly.
The question in the subtitle has been left unanswered in the article, but my reasonable guess is "probably well before the halvening".



1251. Post 46701170 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 08, 2018, 02:31:35 AM
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Any sound investment should plan to budget in such a way that prepares for the down...
Hedging with shorts?  Wink

You are likely razzing me, because you know that I don't really believe in playing around with margin.
Just a little teasing on the surface. I actually think margin trading, used wisely, is a powerful tool. Used unwisely, it's a powerful tool as well, but as with any power tool, you risk your fingers or worse if you don't know your way around it...

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Even for very smart people, have troubles with the more basic strategies, so I would not recommend playing with margin/or leverage until after the person has developed a decently strong basic game, first.
... however, as with any power tool, there are a bunch of safety rules that can be followed to minimize the risk of injuries while still being able to exploit the power. Imagine cutting logs with a wood axe because that electric saw is just too dangerous.

I actually find some form of leveraged trading to be an aid in restraining the inherent gambler inside. Make a plan, work out the best/worst/most likely outcome, play out. No room for clumsy impulse actions once you've set up an involved series of moves. I agree it's not for everyone, though. I don't like welders and their paraphernalia, for example, so I will gladly use the services of a pro whenever I'm in need.

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And, even in bitcoin, the historical degree of volatility might justify that leveraging and/or margin trading is NOT necessary because the returns can be incredibly stupendous with a mere basic accumulation game that does not involve such additional skills and strategies that may just end up greatly increasing the odds for folks to end up losing in what seems to be an otherwise highly probable winning game.
When the trend is down, if there are no fiat reserves to accumulate moar, there's not much to be done by the accumulate-and-hodl investor. That strategy only pays out in bull markets. This might tickle the inner gambler to "poke his stash with a stick", so to say, which is a dangerous game. On the other hand, a plan with pre-calculated possible gains and losses is a way to grow one's stash even in bear markets, with a limited penalty in case of failure.

In the end, and I think we agree on this, it's all about finding a system that works for oneself.



1252. Post 46701455 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: leetlezee on October 09, 2018, 09:45:27 PM
Here's an excerpt from the second link provided by mfort a few posts above.

Big Institutional Investors are Buying Large Amounts of Bitcoin in OTC Market (3 Oct 2018)
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/10/03/big-institutional-investors-are-buying-large-amounts-of-bitcoin-in-otc-market/

Quote from: newsbtc
When Will it Show on Bitcoin Price?

If institutional investors are acquiring large amounts of Bitcoin in the OTC market, it should have a noticeable impact on the cryptocurrency exchange market and the price movement of major digital asssets.

However, over the past two months, the cryptocurrency market has demonstrated stability and struggled to initiate large movements on the upside.

As Circle, Coinbase, BitGo, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and other major financial institutions that either have already launched crypto-focused custodian solutions or plan to offer crypto custody in the short-term begin to serve an increasing number of institutional investors in the months to come, investors expect the value of cryptocurrencies to increase accordingly.
The question in the subtitle has been left unanswered in the article, but my reasonable guess is "probably well before the halvening".

Essentially the point is that institutional investors want to buy up large quantities of Bitcoin without moving the price. So if they are only buying OTC from Bitmain and other large miners, and the "halvening" happens in 589 days... then I would agree that could easily be where the increase in price comes.
When I said "probably well before the halvening", I was thinking along the following lines.

Lately, volume on traditional exchanges has been ridiculously low. I think this might not be tightly connected with shark buyers going OTC; they have been doing things that way for a while already. The issue is small fish losing interest, patience, fiat money, or all of the above. As soon as all these things build back up, exchange prices must inevitably get a push. Any sign of a bull market will likely trigger a wave of small fish FOMO that will impact prices for all to see, including MSM. Which will likely create some feedback loop and we'll be back to late 2017 scenarios.

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Maybe we should ask Jamie Dimon. I bet he has a pretty good idea of when that might be.
So, who calls him? Will you or should I?  Tongue



1253. Post 46701567 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 09, 2018, 09:52:25 PM
If we can hold the $6k floor through to the end of January, then it’s on like Donkey Kong.

...and if we can't, a conservative short might be the ticket.



1254. Post 46723626 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 10, 2018, 01:40:38 AM
If we can hold the $6k floor through to the end of January, then it’s on like Donkey Kong.

...and if we can't, a conservative short might be the ticket.


You are vocalizing this "shortie thingie ma jiggie" a lot, recently.  Getting me worried in a kind of maternal sense.


Don't worry mom, I always wear a condom.



1255. Post 46723918 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: windjc on October 10, 2018, 02:36:50 AM
Essentially the point is that institutional investors want to buy up large quantities of Bitcoin without moving the price. So if they are only buying OTC from Bitmain and other large miners, and the "halvening" happens in 589 days... then I would agree that could easily be where the increase in price comes.
When I said "probably well before the halvening", I was thinking along the following lines.

Lately, volume on traditional exchanges has been ridiculously low. I think this might not be tightly connected with shark buyers going OTC; they have been doing things that way for a while already. The issue is small fish losing interest, patience, fiat money, or all of the above. As soon as all these things build back up, exchange prices must inevitably get a push. Any sign of a bull market will likely trigger a wave of small fish FOMO that will be impact prices for all to see, including MSM. Which will likely create some feedback loop and we'll be back to late 2017 scenarios.

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Maybe we should ask Jamie Dimon. I bet he has a pretty good idea of when that might be.
So, who calls him? Will you or should I?  Tongue

I'd call Jamie Dimon, but I think he blocked my number due to my efforts to call out his BS in 2017.  Roll Eyes

I agree, retail interest in Bitcoin is very low right now, which gives the sharks plenty of room to swim without interference. But once we see some news that spikes enough people's interest, the domino effect will take place like in 2017:

  • Institutional investors quietly buying Bitcoin...
  • Some announcement drives decent interest in buying Bitcoin
  • Bitcoin price goes ^
  • "Bitcoin Bull Run Again?" in news cycle
  • People start FOMO and buy BTC
  • Bitcoin price goes ^^
  • More news cycles about Bitcoin "Bitcoin Goes on a Real Tear This Time, Will We See $1,000,000? Jamie Dimon Says Yes"
  • More people FOMO buy
  • Bitcoin price ^^^
  • News cycles go wild, your grandma sees it and calls you to ask you to help her buy Bitcoin
  • Institutional investors taking profit $$
  • Bitcoin price ---
  • People tell themselves this is consolidation before more ^^^
  • Institutional investors finish taking profit $$$, start shorting
  • Bitcoin price \/
  • People say, "just people taking a little profit before hitting the REAL bull run"
  • Bitcoin price \/\/
  • People start getting a little worried about a repeat, not buying any more
  • Institutional investors get busy shorting
  • Bitcoin price \/\/\/
  • People start reverse FOMO, selling all their holdings
  • Bitcoin price \/\/\/\/\/
  • Institional investors cashing in shorts... $$$$$$$
  • Retail investors lose their shorts
  • Bitcoin bottoms and cycle starts all over again
I am not sure why this narrrative - that institutional investors always make the right calls and own the markets while retail investors always get killed- is so prevalent in crypto psyche.
It's not that they make the right calls. It's that when your fiat muscle is in the same order of magnitude as the market cap, you stand a good chance to make your call right if you plan carefully.

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Most of bitcoin richlist are retail investors. Meanwhile funds drove the ICO craze and got killed. But whatever excuse you want to make as to why you’re not wealthier, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.
Most are retail investors because they really made the right call at the right time, and staked a good chunk of their "real money" on "magic internet money". Now that the price went up significantly, correction notwithstanding, bitcoin is becoming more and more of a rich person game, as someone said a few pages back.

And by the way, it's not an excuse for me. I made that call at the right time too, although my modest fiat reserves at that time don't make me a disgustingly rich guy today. Not yet.


EDIT
Only after posting this, I read leetlezee's reply to the same post by windjc. I think it summarizes my point of view effectively. Just for reference, here's the link.

Quote from: leetlezee on October 10, 2018, 01:36:02 PM
(snip)
The point is market manipulation on a large scale exists behind the scenes that is never covered by the news / brought to light.



1256. Post 46735363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Have you seen Wall St.?
ATM, it's DJIA -2.68%, NASDAQ -3.46%.



1257. Post 46743262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Our assets are sore from too much correlation.



1258. Post 46743855 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: d_eddie on October 10, 2018, 01:56:22 PM
If we can hold the $6k floor through to the end of January, then it’s on like Donkey Kong.

...and if we can't, a conservative short might be the ticket.


You are vocalizing this "shortie thingie ma jiggie" a lot, recently.  Getting me worried in a kind of maternal sense.


Don't worry mom, I always wear a condom.


Even with a condom on, the ride is still fun.

In more technical words: my condom long is still standing and suffering. I wish I could have closed it earlier, or nursed it to a lower entry.

However, my other, hedging, opposing position (which I won't name explicitly to avoid a worried maternal figure) has granted me a nice, uh, money shot. And it still has some juice. I've just placed a few take profit stops on the way back up, and a fat asset one lower than here.

I'm set up. I know the possible outcomes of this position. Peace of mind. No more compulsive price checking for a while. No thirst for gambling, though I might buy some moar physical coin if things go further south.

(I did gamble a bit a couple weeks ago, against BCH, and I won. I could have squeezed more out of it, but I acted conservatively.)

This (apart from the BCH gamble) has nothing to do with my hopes or beliefs. It's just that this system does work for me.



1259. Post 46743938 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: cryptokwuk on October 11, 2018, 02:49:04 AM
Don't worry, this current crash is far from over, we still have along way down to go.

Username checks out.



1260. Post 46752298 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 11, 2018, 05:51:07 AM
Our assets are sore from too much correlation.
Seems to be a short term perception.

It was a shitpun, actually.

I don't think there's any real correlation, except as someone said a temporary disturbance probably linked to suffering stock positions - or bonds, which have been in milder but structural trouble for a while already.

If the stock market gets a couple more blows, it could turn into priming bull fuel, even.



1261. Post 46769777 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: jonoiv on October 11, 2018, 01:31:21 PM
58.5%  shorting on bitmex,  how many shorters gonna get rekt today i wonder!?
On bitmex, the total amounts of short and long positions are always exactly equal. The house stays neutral and is never a market maker.



1262. Post 46769891 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 11, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
9:13am CST. Dallas, TX Suburbs: The hiss of carbonated air can be heard escaping from a cold, fermented alcoholic beverage.
A charming literary description of someone's recent morning routine, indeed.
Is the liver stress test before or after the brick based ball hardening drill?



1263. Post 46795017 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on October 12, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
With stocks crashing by as much as 40%
Not to mention bonds! Not such a swift, apparent crash yet, but it's overdue already. A slow grind fueled by rising interest rates is pretty much unescapable by now. That's real institutional, conservative investor money mostly.

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we might just see the next Bitcoin rally soon, for which the last sell off could end up being a bear trap. How is the long volume developing?
Potential bull fodder indeed. Popcorn anyone?



1264. Post 46801712 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Meanwhile, the Plunge Protection Team is working hard.



1265. Post 46802767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 12, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
Meanwhile, the Plunge Protection Team is working hard.

Hey... hey... I meant Wall Street, man... easy with that toy...   Grin



1266. Post 46810015 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 12, 2018, 07:44:35 PM
TGIF



What a shitpost.
We don't even get to make out the dildo color.
I am disappointed.
 Tongue Tongue Tongue

@mic: stand back!
@bitserve: don't poke her, pleeze!



1267. Post 46814566 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 12, 2018, 11:01:31 PM
The Bollinger bands on the 1 hour are really tightening up.  Looks ripe for a big move one way or the other soon.

Choppiness index indicating breakout soon. CCI waay down, going into the dirt. MACD and RSI bearish. Same thing on the 1 day scale. We are going to touch 5,8k :DDDDD
Put in your shorts and don't wait to long at the bottom because you know what? RSI says  next weekend pump. My liver says no.
Haven't had much Bollinger lately, but if we touch 5.8k I will enjoy some Taittinger.

In other words: position's in the green already. Not taking profit just yet. Safety stops all set on the way up, just in case of an unexpected immediate pump. Then we can have the bull run of our life if she likes.



1268. Post 46814841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2018, 11:50:05 PM
Tonight is going sideways....... f***ing sidewayes, WoW pffff
Hm, someone said he wouldn't be checking price like mad tonight...
Come on, never  mind! The pump will come sooner or later. Enjoy your b'day party and have one glass for us too  Cheesy



1269. Post 46874676 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

The little spike triggered my safety stop, so I gained 10% less than I could have if I'd closed at the local bottom. Not going to open another short for the moment.

Call me paranoid, but it was so quick and sharp that it looks just like stop hunting.



1270. Post 46895246 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 14, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
The little spike triggered my safety stop, so I gained 10% less than I could have if I'd closed at the local bottom. Not going to open another short for the moment.

Call me paranoid, but it was so quick and sharp that it looks just like stop hunting.

I will start slowly reentering a short at $6,300.  The last spike tickled my limit order on Mex but didn’t fill it.  If we can hold the green candle for the daily close we might see close to $6,400 today.  

I'm feeling in a similar way, but probably a bit less comfortable. Ideally, I'd wait for 6500ish and be quick and ready with stop losses. I've got a hunch about a run approaching 8k midweek (and then back). The hunch is Sources Omitted, Mouthlock Active.



1271. Post 46910461 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Conservative stops costed me about 10% profit, but they avoided me a squeeze. Although non fatal, it's still bad for my mood. Short now promptly reconstructed at a higher (better) entry point than it was before.

TL;DR In other words: Volatility isn't inherently bad. Neither is cautious leveraged margin use.



1272. Post 46946719 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 15, 2018, 10:35:52 PM
The little spike triggered my safety stop, so I gained 10% less than I could have if I'd closed at the local bottom. Not going to open another short for the moment.

Call me paranoid, but it was so quick and sharp that it looks just like stop hunting.

I am sure that you recognize that "stop hunting" can happen at any time, and it is part of the parameters of "playing around with margin." 

If you are going to use margin, you gotta be prepared for any manipulation that is quite hard to gauge, especially if you are not either the one doing the manipulating or have some kind of insider information about it.

Surely, it is better to fail to earn as much (such as 10%) like you mentioned, rather than getting caught with a losing position which is also part of the balancing of positions test that you seem to be considering when you first place your shorts and your seeming current reluctance to enter a short at this time.
I got lucky with my SOMA hunch. By waiting until around 6.5k, I have been able to re-enter at a good level. Not sure where to sprinkle my take profit stops now, apart from the safety stop just below my entry.



1273. Post 46960686 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Meanwhile in Wall Street, the stock market is swinging like crazy.
+/- 2% daily movement looks a little like bitcoin. Nasdaq is +2.91% right now.



1274. Post 46981714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 17, 2018, 04:14:11 AM
I didn't make hats for those participating in sig campaigns or those whose avatar I couldn't find a larger version of.   If anybody else wants one, let me know (and if you could provide a larger version of your avatar, that would be awesome).

I lost my pants to a tricky Mayor during a memorable season a long time ago. I'll need to be careful not to lose my hat by eating it.





1275. Post 46992585 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 17, 2018, 05:55:39 PM
I didn't make hats for those participating in sig campaigns or those whose avatar I couldn't find a larger version of.   If anybody else wants one, let me know (and if you could provide a larger version of your avatar, that would be awesome).

I lost my pants to a tricky Mayor during a memorable season a long time ago. I'll need to be careful not to lose my hat by eating it.




 Hold on to your hat then!



 Avatar-sized



Wow how cool! I look like a champ with this thing on!
THANK YOU xhomerx10!  Cheesy



1276. Post 47048246 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: Hueristic on October 18, 2018, 10:12:20 PM
BTW, you guys have been killing me but I'm trying to give out merits to deserving n00bs ATM. Wink

^^^--- it's harder than it sounds. Sad

+1



1277. Post 47192870 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

A few days of leave, and I'm stuck playing catch-up again. It's been since Thursday-Friday. It seems like nothing happened, and yet I've got some 15 pages. It's like a job, for Korn's sake!

Anything important I should check out?



1278. Post 47196883 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 21, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
Haha you ain’t talking about me i guess  Roll Eyes

Its just you and me left Mic.  The last bulls left standing in the WO.  Bitcoin is pushing hard out from under the bear triangle.  Go Bitcoin Go !
Not quite the only ones. I've closed all my short positions. It's too unstable now and it feels like gambling no matter how much thought one puts into it.



1279. Post 47516908 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Can't hang around here much these days. It seems the less wall observing there is to be made, the more activity proliferates in the WO thread!



1280. Post 47517157 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: julian071 on October 25, 2018, 08:16:38 PM
As long as it ends up at 100k...
As long as it ends up at 100k within my "enjoy it fully" time window...



1281. Post 47612737 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

I have no time to play the catch up game these days unfortunately, so maybe someone has already said that, but bear with me.

I saw btc slightly ramping up, and some momentum is still holding on Monday. A bit unusual lately.
I also see bch climbing up some.

Conspiracy theory cum SOMA prediction: you-know-who got themselves some cheap corn during the latest low sideways, and they are now ready to prop up bcash for some time - or at least to keep it from falling during the early bull run we've stepped in.

What's your opinion?



1282. Post 47615811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 05, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking
Hm, V8. Quick, flawless fact finding.
Hint: you might be spoiling us.



1283. Post 47622805 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 05, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking
Who could the forkers be? Bitmain or some opponent? The temporary bump in price may look good for Bitmain's books with IPO investors, but I think consensus is that the steady post-fork value will take a dent. This makes it less likely that it is a Bitmain tactic. But are there any real opponents in that camp?



1284. Post 47628746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: kingcolex on November 06, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
I don't use to look at the price anymore

but when I do it's $6400.
Yeah I have a notification tell me when it moves 3% in a day. That damn thing is getting dusty.
What do you use for such notification?



1285. Post 47628835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 06, 2018, 01:25:44 AM
BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking
Who could the forkers be? Bitmain or some opponent? The temporary bump in price may look good for Bitmain's books with IPO investors, but I think consensus is that the steady post-fork value will take a dent. This makes it less likely that it is a Bitmain tactic. But are there any real opponents in that camp?

Serious question? You must have been offline for quite some time.
I have over 100 pages to catch up indeed, and no time or energy for it.

Besides, these fork schemes are often not what they look like from the outside, so I was fishing for more viewpoints: either fine conspiracy theorists or bch pundits. I got the latter, thank you.



1286. Post 47638913 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 06, 2018, 08:06:32 AM
Dude I never said I liked it. But it is what the science shows. Reality is what it is.
link that science shit
if you'd be so kind
link the science shit where morality is measured
and correlated with amygdala size
link the connection to stimulation of the amygdala
link where this is measured over significant history
You didn't know the Romans kept accurate records of amygdala sizes, even more so during the dissolution of the empire? So did the Egyptians. Unfortunately, in Mesopotamia amygdala screening never really took hold: they were too busy figuring out how to write their laws on clay. Luckily, we have a huge collection of fossil amygdalas coming from that area, with date tags attached. Clay tags, of course.



1287. Post 47639015 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 06, 2018, 05:12:20 AM

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... and I got the behind the scenes view too ("fine conspiracy theorist", as I put it earlier). Makes sense. Thanks.



1288. Post 47645767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Relevance is so retro.



1289. Post 47654140 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 06, 2018, 06:37:44 PM
I've never understood how lefties can be bitcoiners. They seem mutually exclusive.

TIL I am mutually exclusive.

In other news, mem pool is up. 
Bcash camp brewing?



1290. Post 47714236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Speculative BCH short at 0.0952 (BTC/BCH). Already in the green.  Wink



1291. Post 47716262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 08, 2018, 09:34:37 AM
Why isn't that ever highlighted in the media?
Because the media, and legacy finances including banking, and 99% of the political establishment are all on the left. We are on the right. That's why.
The media world is divided, but it's hard to gauge the approximate balance. For example, I guess you're counting the whole Hollywood circus as a nest of communists, which I would disagree with. As to the political establishment being all on the left, that isn't even true in China.

On the other hand, Legacy finance is definitely on the right. Don't fool yourself only because you're near 100% right. 85% right might be more on the left than you, but it's still on the right. Then again, I guess everything's relative.

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It's the same with global warming. co2 is not a pollutant first of all, but more than that it is necessary for all life on the planet. C6H12O6. Plants turn co2 into oxygen and act as food for animals. More co2, more oxygen and food, more animals, more life. And I have never seen this mentioned in the media or anywhere else.
Of course CO2 is no pollutant - it's not even toxic - but its problem is the greenhouse effect. Leave science to the scientists. Unless you think communist media are suppressing the truth about CO2 being useful to plant life. It's their little communist secret, you know.

On a related note, if I were you I'd be wary of drinking tap water.  It's a vehicle for them to corrupt your vital fluids.



1292. Post 47717046 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2018, 08:41:37 PM
cucks gonna cuck


Hi, is it too soon to ask for that thank you blowjob?

I wouldn’t touch those girls with yours!
When it's dark, all cats are grey.
With yours.



1293. Post 47717754 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 08, 2018, 02:07:12 PM
Not to do with holding a position during funding?

Bitmex does not charge fees on funding.
Quite. Longs pay shorts or the other way round.
Way outta my depth here. Someone will see it for you...
It's most likely funding that hit you. Check your trade history ( https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory ).



1294. Post 47738092 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 09, 2018, 01:10:44 AM

If you ever had a Bitcoin address associated with your account you can always sign a message with that key as proof.

He did, it matched. It seems no accounts are being recovered since before the summer even if you follow the procedure. Bummer.

I know Theymos reads this thread once in a while.
I suggest that maybe a larger task force could be appointed for the recovery of stolen accounts.
Otherwise, why staking our btc addresses as a security measure?



1295. Post 47742421 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 09, 2018, 02:10:26 PM

...

Clinical throat, put me and said temperature is always just graduated, a lot of laughter from the targeted sapien free.

...

A maximum drink region.
Hm? Already wasted in a pre-weekend trial binge?



1296. Post 47751405 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 09, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
You think people are converting BTC to BCH ahead of their shit fork to get their free shitcoin’s & then convert back into BTC to increase their BTC stashes?

Yes but it’s not my cup of tea.  I made a rule awhile ago that I only trade bitcoin and never touch shitcoins no matter how tempting. 

Most of the pump is probably finished by now anyway.

Yeah in my trading beginner days I lost a lot of money on altcoins. Well, live and learn.
I've been bitten by altcoins too, and said to myself no more.
However, it's not an absolute stance: there are exceptions. Such as shorting bch as soon as its head sticks out too much.



1297. Post 47780140 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Excellent summary, fluidjax. The BCH fork is the most important issue at the moment, and your post provides useful perspective. Merited.


Quote from: fluidjax on November 10, 2018, 08:56:21 PM
I thought I'd spread a little of the opinions and information I've gathered over the last few days about the BCH split.

CSW doesn't want a fork, he currently controls over 51% of the hash on BCH,

(snip)

As a BTC maximalist I want the war to go on for a long time resulting in less cash reserves for both money both Jiahn and CSW. Although the risk to BTC is well over the horizon at the moment, it is no doubt the destruction of BTC that is in both their long games, and whoever wins this hash war will be embolden to collect financial partners/investors (state sponsored?) and eventually turn on BTC.
Indeed. But old school hodlers might still save the day. Or a frictionless lighting network. Or hordes of full nodes running on lightweight machines with lightweight connections. I am hopeful.

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Profit? At this pumped up fork price, I think the only direction for the price is downwards.
Unless one of them capitulates which I don't think is very likely, their will be many large  re-orgs and a major loss in confidence by BCH's holders and users,  exchanges won't allow trading until things settle down, but how long could that be?
I hope exchanges keep bch on their books at least until I close my short with a yuuuge profit  Tongue




1298. Post 47794284 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

A bit of dollar cost averaging can't be bad. As long as I have some spare fiat lying around...



1299. Post 47809921 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Pining for the fjords, probably.



1300. Post 47842169 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Sideways discourse while waiting for juicy news.



1301. Post 47880056 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 13, 2018, 08:47:31 PM
Update on my bank situation. I can no longer deposit fiat. Like, at all. No idea how to even pay the fucking rent once the money in my account runs dry.

I can, however, sell coins on kraken and withdraw to my bank from there. No problem at all. It's almost like they want me to get rid of them.
Careful what you do, Ibian. If they really play dirty, they can freeze your withdrawals (and payments) too. In most cases they can find a legal justification for that - at least temporarily, but probably long enough to cause you trouble, say, with the landlord. If I were you, I'd work out a plan B involving an independent stash of fiat for safety.



1302. Post 47896417 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 14, 2018, 05:18:56 AM
What happened to goat?
There was this user "goat" on Bitmex. He was very active in the trollbox. He defined himself as an old guy, at least in comparison to the juvenile crowd there. Boasted a lot about his riches and his profits. Gained an awful lot lot, until one day he got very, very, very badly rekt. That was a few months before the drop from ~20k down. Unseen until then (like 18 or so months ago).

Could it be him?



1303. Post 47901872 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Easy, guys. A bit of turmoil. In my opinion, this is related more to the BCH toothache than to BAKKT, though it doesn't really matter. This is the good shakeout we all needed.

The easy way to take advantage - buy the dip without looking for the bottom. Keep that dollar cost average going.

The harder way: short some BCH since 1-2 weeks ago. The hardest way: short some BTC too, but be ready to take profit or stop loss quickish.

I think end of year will be a sweet time.

Everything strictly SOMA, but my money is always where my mouth is.



1304. Post 47901984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 14, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
Oh..  And hello to the people in the future who are studying this thread as part of the evidence of market psychology of the early 21st century bitcoin phenomenon.

Don't you wish you had been here with us?

I know.. I know...  Lucky bastards we are.  

We even know it on a day like today.
This. cAPSLOCK said it before me, and better.



1305. Post 47902463 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: infofront on November 14, 2018, 05:21:13 PM
I believe we've now reached yearly lows.

Congrats. Bull market starts tomorrow.  Wink
...or next week, after the dust settles.
It will be an interesting 2019, gentlemen.



1306. Post 47903463 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on November 14, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
"Craig Wright says he has an exploit to take down Bitcoin (BTC) by end of 2019. Does he? Or all talk?"

https://youtu.be/4TOnHAlI_Vg

WTF? I hope it's just Craig Wright talking out of his ass...

CSW's whole thing is to exploit how people tend to believe that things aren't total lies. So when he says he's Satoshi, people think "Well, I don't believe he's Satoshi, but maybe he knew Satoshi". Or "He failed to destroy BTC with mining power like he said he would last year, but maybe he still actually has a bunch of mining capacity hidden away somewhere." Or "There's no technical way for him to irrecoverably screw with SegWit transactions, but maybe he found some bug somewhere."

But really he's completely full of shit; the vast majority of claims he makes are complete lies from front to back. (And often just a tiny bit of research will make this obvious.)

If he had an exploit to take down Bitcoin (BTC) he would use it today. Why wait for months before using it?
As Theymos said, he's full of shit.



1307. Post 47903854 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 14, 2018, 07:09:50 PM
What the fuck is this?

People converting BTC into BCH so they can claim free shit fork coins tomorrow?

Doesn't appear to be the case. True, BTC is down. But BCH is down more ATM. BTC/SV, however, is up considerably.

The market is actually betting that CW is Satoshi, basically.

Not me. I'm betting on the demonstrated hash power that SV has amassed. Why so many ignored such an obvious signal is beyond me. More grist for the 'most people are basically irrational' mill.

Why you think this is dependent upon CSV being Satoshi is a mystery.

I will still believe it when I see it... meaning the actual fork.  This pre-fork pump and dump may be much more profitable than actually following through with an actual fork.  Let's see it... let's see it.  I still remain skeptical... is it 75% likely now, rather than $70% likely.. that still leaves a 25% chance that such stupid ass fork won't happen.
That is quite possible, and I've been considering this outcome too. That's why I want to be flat (out of the market) before the shitshow scheduled time - well, except for my historical, suffering long.

I'd merit you again, except I already spent some on you, and I am reluctant to shell out to legends, who really don't need the stuff.



1308. Post 47910685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 14, 2018, 10:20:36 PM
What plans are there for block explorers and electrum wallets for the new forks? The SV and ABC websites only seem to offer qt wallets. I can't find anything for everyday people, only stuff for miners and full node hosters.

Hmm. I thought the core narrative was that everyone should run a fully-validating non-mining wallet (often mistakenly called 'full nodes'). No? Say it isn't so!
Not if the blocksize is out of control.




1309. Post 47910750 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 14, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
Craig Wright is tweeting literally every 10 minutes tonight


Dr Craig S Wright @ProfFaustus
Well. In 2017 I said there was a MAJOR issue with SegWit.

In mid to late 2019, I will explain it.

It cannot be removed. It cannot be fixed. It is not solvable and, you cannot work around it.

Sorry. You allowed Core to kill BTC.

I did try and stop you.
He's getting fuller and fuller. I hope he bursts far from the fan.



1310. Post 47910800 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on November 14, 2018, 10:57:23 PM
So I would not become too self-congratulatory and smug if I were you

Good advice. I will probably eat dirt on the next trade.
I had been waiting for a long long time to put on a sizeable leveraged short if it went under the trendline at 6050-6100 or so, thinking it would go very fast all of a sudden, yet when the moment came... I just didn't. I just sold a little and then I thought, I will wait for a little while now, best not to make any rash decisions all of a sudden...  It continues to baffle me how my mind can play tricks on me.  Now I am left wondering why I didn't carry out my plan...

I feel you, man.

What works for me is setting up the orders in advance after working out the math (worst case analysis in particular). It's relieving, and once in a while you get a nice surprise - like Hairy, who said something about waking up to a handsomely plumped up account.



1311. Post 47910835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 15, 2018, 01:33:58 AM
What plans are there for block explorers and electrum wallets for the new forks? The SV and ABC websites only seem to offer qt wallets. I can't find anything for everyday people, only stuff for miners and full node hosters.

Hmm. I thought the core narrative was that everyone should run a fully-validating non-mining wallet (often mistakenly called 'full nodes'). No? Say it isn't so!
Not if the blocksize is out of control.


I think even Satoshi said somewhere that it's not realistic in the long term?
He did, and the size has grown some indeed, even after the temporary hard limit to 1 MB. But can you imagine blocksize varying with emerging consensus? It can go to the moon immediately when the big fish fancy kicking everybody else off the validating business.



1312. Post 47924697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Astargath on November 15, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
Hard fork live monitor

https://fork.btc.com/

What do we anticipate regarding bitcoin price as we get very close to & in the aftermath of this fork?
Desperate bitcoin dumping by both parties to prop up their forked messes which will crash us more?

What do you mean to prop up their forked coins? They would sell for bitcoin in any case, no?
But likely not immediately.



1313. Post 47931457 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 15, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
Stop worrying about whether Craig might have access to Satoshi’s keys.  

He doesn’t.

This is all just a play act.  Stop buying into the ridiculous story time.  

The price went down because shorters sold.  Shorters sold because Craig provided a convenient story line and a time and date so traders could plan in advance and get ready. 
In other words: get out of your shorts while still in the green, before Fakoshi's story crumbles.



1314. Post 47939360 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Hey guys what's this sideways talk about sobering up and getting back into shape?

We are tanking. No, we are maybe reverse barting. No, well, but either bcash ABC or bcash fakoshi are going to the dogs. Or both. I mean, what's wrong with you? Get back to serious stuff. Post bottoms, or whatever!  Angry



1315. Post 47945356 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

I closed my final bch short and I'm done playing with bch. Got a slight loss just at the end, but an overall 50% profit on my play money. Thank you, forkers. Do it again next Xmas, will you?

I also closed the short position on btc. Not even my standing historical long, redder than ever before, can take my gains away now: it's already accounted for. I'm considering defending this result with one more short, tight stop. Should 4000 show its ugly face, I'll collect enough on the way down to make up for extra losses on the long. Otherwise I'll gladly pay the stop loss tax on the short.

EDIT Found a pretty Easter egg: the number 1337 shows up as "leet" in the post count.  :-)



1316. Post 47945989 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 16, 2018, 03:54:42 AM
Seems that you are getting pretty good at both hedging, but also not getting to greedy with your bets in order to stuff away funds and to also increase the size of your "playing" funds.

Regarding the leet, if you want to maintain your status, you cannot post anymore... You just have to keep editing old posts...

Otherwise, if you do post, you have to delete one post for every new post.
I don't let my play money grow geometrically. The excess gets periodically stashed away. That's how I was able to double up ~2.7 times - meaning s a 270% return, rather than 650%.

Leet: can't be bothered to preserve. Everything is temporary anyway.

P.S. You too are capable of palatable dryness, see?



1317. Post 47946059 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 15, 2018, 09:59:56 PM
Guys I made something for you.   Please don't take this as investment advice Wink



Aha! What would this thread look like without you?   Kiss

You make it prettier with every post (and repost - see moon above).



1318. Post 47955092 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 16, 2018, 04:30:15 AM
I’m a bit disappointed that BTC hasn’t made a V shaped bottom yet.   

I don’t like how we are hanging around here with volume dropping off sharply.   

it is lacking a certain snapback quality

another leg down methinks
Yes. I dared not say it, but a real V bottom is terrifying when it comes in and bounces relievingly. This wasn't and didn't. Maybe it's just a half bart after all. We'll see soon enough.



1319. Post 47957932 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Theymos's analysis makes lots of sense, but the corn is a proven dealer of surprises. Wait and see, I guess.



1320. Post 47963643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: infofront on November 16, 2018, 04:45:16 PM
Rastani throws in the towel, capitulation begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRCYQz6EAAY

He's one of my favorite analysts.

TLDW: We're going to $4,000-$4,500

 Embarrassed
Sh**, gotta reopen that short. I hate this carnival.



1321. Post 47964045 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on November 16, 2018, 05:23:03 PM
Rastani throws in the towel, capitulation begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRCYQz6EAAY

He's one of my favorite analysts.

TLDW: We're going to $4,000-$4,500

No chance. We’re at the bottom now. I’m buying right now and will keep buying all the way back to $6,500.
I like your hypothesis better, QuestionAuthority, but the others have kind of substantiated their view with external TA or with their own arguments. Why do you think the bottom is in? Please share.

I'd also love to hear a contrarian opinion, like Tera's. Alas, (s)he's not here anymore.



1322. Post 47974675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on November 16, 2018, 07:24:28 PM
European Central Bank Exec Calls Bitcoin the 'Evil Spawn of the Financial Crisis'

https://cointelegraph.com/news/european-central-bank-exec-calls-bitcoin-the-evil-spawn-of-the-financial-crisis
Difficult state, moment of doubt. Yet, bitcoin can elicit passionate smearing from TPTB.

Bullish.



1323. Post 47974871 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on November 17, 2018, 04:09:54 AM
Complete speculation but...

I believe that Craig Wright signed a very large monetary deal with some investors after giving them the impression that he was Satoshi and that he could not release his BTC until 2020.

Whatever deal this is, he is desperate to get as many bitcoins as he can before then. He tried to make BCH the "real bitcoin" but that didn't work...so now just make up some fear about Segwit the he will "reveal in 2019" to drive down the price so he can get as many coins as possible to fulfill his part of the deal. Looks like he needs the price to drop to around $1k to be able to pull that off. Not going to happen.

There is no FUD on segwit, the threat is real. Perhaps do some reading on the subject?
TL;DR plz?



1324. Post 47992184 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: infofront on November 17, 2018, 06:50:20 AM
Complete speculation but...

I believe that Craig Wright signed a very large monetary deal with some investors after giving them the impression that he was Satoshi and that he could not release his BTC until 2020.

Whatever deal this is, he is desperate to get as many bitcoins as he can before then. He tried to make BCH the "real bitcoin" but that didn't work...so now just make up some fear about Segwit the he will "reveal in 2019" to drive down the price so he can get as many coins as possible to fulfill his part of the deal. Looks like he needs the price to drop to around $1k to be able to pull that off. Not going to happen.

There is no FUD on segwit, the threat is real. Perhaps do some reading on the subject?
TL;DR plz?

If a malicious actor were to gain control of 51%+ of the network hash power, he could change the network rules, rescind segwit, and take all the coins that were in segwit addresses.

Of course, there's a significant chance no one would use the compromised network except the attacker, which would make the whole thing moot.
Ah so segwit's problem is that it's 51%-fuckable. Yawn.

(Not directed to you, infofront. I would have liked the OP PoolMinor to reply and argue.)



1325. Post 47992732 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 17, 2018, 07:02:56 PM
Complete speculation but...

I believe that Craig Wright signed a very large monetary deal with some investors after giving them the impression that he was Satoshi and that he could not release his BTC until 2020.

Whatever deal this is, he is desperate to get as many bitcoins as he can before then. He tried to make BCH the "real bitcoin" but that didn't work...so now just make up some fear about Segwit the he will "reveal in 2019" to drive down the price so he can get as many coins as possible to fulfill his part of the deal. Looks like he needs the price to drop to around $1k to be able to pull that off. Not going to happen.

There is no FUD on segwit, the threat is real. Perhaps do some reading on the subject?
TL;DR plz?

If a malicious actor were to gain control of 51%+ of the network hash power, he could change the network rules, rescind segwit, and take all the coins that were in segwit addresses.

Of course, there's a significant chance no one would use the compromised network except the attacker, which would make the whole thing moot.
Ah so segwit's problem is that it's 51%-fuckable. Yawn.

(Not directed to you, infofront. I would have liked the OP PoolMinor to reply and argue.)

It's not just "51%" fuckable.... Segwit nodes/miners, exchanges, users, etc would never accept those blocks spending Segwit... so no, if you want to do that you don't need any particular hashrate, just create a fork with whatever hashrate and spend them. Good luck getting that chain accepted anywhere.
Well at least the miners would, indeed, accept it (we're assuming a 51% majority aren't we). But nodes, economic users, everyone else... good luck with that.

Quote
It's the same old anti-segwit FUD. Nothing to see here.
Yeah. Yawn.



1326. Post 47992849 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: infofront on November 17, 2018, 07:19:39 PM


You know what I fear? I fear going down on a girl that I think is clean and looking in the mirror the next morning to find little balls of dirty toilet paper stuck in my beard that rubbed off of her taint.
Lifehack don't go down on girls. You are welcome.

That's the worst advice I've ever heard.

@Ibian: "Lifehack don't go down on girls". You sound like a muslim, you know? Maybe reevaluate, depending on the girl.

@QuestionAuthority: "I fear going down on a girl that I think is clean". I think you can validate your assessment of cleanliness quite soon, unless you have a serious cold. Amended lifehack: don't go down on a girl you don't know if you have a serious cold!  Tongue



1327. Post 47993276 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 17, 2018, 07:43:07 PM
@Ibian: "Lifehack don't go down on girls". You sound like a muslim, you know? Maybe reevaluate, depending on the girl.

@QuestionAuthority: "I fear going down on a girl that I think is clean". I think you can validate your assessment of cleanliness quite soon, unless you have a serious cold. Amended lifehack: don't go down on a girl you don't know if you have a serious cold!  Tongue

I only go down on Muslim truck drivers, but only when they haven't got out their driving seat for 12 straight hours and the ambient temp remains above 40c.

The musky film they sport is truly heavenly, better than the finest foie gras.
With a serious cold, it's going to be a serious waste.



1328. Post 47995847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: kenzawak on November 17, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
World’s First Crypto ETF to be Listed Next Week in EU

https://www.chepicap.com/en/news/5281/world-s-first-crypto-etf-approved-in-switzerland.html

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An ETP is the umbrella term under which ETF's belong, which is a specific product-type within this wider range. The general tendency both in the marketplace and the media is to use ETF and ETP as perfectly interchangeable terms.

https://twitter.com/IamNomad/status/1063851395827273729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1063851395827273729&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chepicap.com%2Fen%2Fnews%2F5281%2Fworld-s-first-crypto-etf-approved-in-switzerland.html


I'm fed up with these crypto salad funds ("composite"). I don't think we need them. A pure btc ETF/ETP, audited and settled in kind, would be quite a different matter.



1329. Post 48010530 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Today I'm going along with the "It's all manipulation, whales are in control" school of thought.

So I got to think that we won't get back to 8k and beyond without a violent, swift, scary long squeeze. Hairy suggested Tuesday or earlier. Jojo said maybe later. My SOMA timeframe is somewhat longer, but I am still hopeful we might be done by year's end.



1330. Post 48014651 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: lightfoot on November 18, 2018, 01:43:09 PM
Well, there's a lot going on with the chain: Blockchain.info is reporting 3,000 tps.

Summary    Status:Connected
Total Fees    270.12662831 BTC
Total Size    1646533.03 (KB)
Transactions Per Second    3000.71

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

Even if their math is crocked, this is way higher than the normal 3-15 tps.
Is that spam or something stirring?

From a sabotage point of view, spam looks mostly useless at the moment (it would have made sense a week or so ago). But what do I know? Come on, WO pundits, offer your take on this!



1331. Post 48030732 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: becoin on November 18, 2018, 08:15:26 PM
Yeah, back to 6500 is my guess.

back to 1500 is my guess

I smell a nocoiner full of hatred.

I smell vinegar & salt crisps. Without crisps.



1332. Post 48030912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 18, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
I would like to hear people’s stories about how they first heard about Bitcoin ?

I read about it in Wired Magazine in early 2013.  I was familiar with gold farming in WOW so it didn’t seem too outlandish.  It took a second mention in the media in November 2013 for me to pay attention and find this forum on google.
I read about it in some geek forum, came here to take a look and made myself an account. Must have been 2011. Never thought I'd actually get any. They are useless nerdy whatnots, right? Then I found out that another nerdy thing I'd read about was in actual use and worked fairly well. Something about onions. I found out there were people around the world willing to take nerdy whatnots for actual merchandise, quite hard to come by in other ways.

So I bought some, a bit more than I actually needed, just to be sure - at $6-$7 each, then $10. It was a bit of a hassle to buy. Spent some, lost some in the Old West scene it was at the time. Hedl some. Never really stopped buying just for the heck of it, even when my hunger for onions vanished. I even mined a little with my Nvidia GPU while it was still slightly profitable - like 0.02-0.03 a day. Deepbit anyone?

I came here at regular intervals. Read Meta and Speculation mostly. One day I felt like posting, but the old account was too easy to connect to my other personas. Remember what happened to DPR. Not that I have anything to hide, but you know. A little disconnection is always a good thing. Make a new account. And here I am.



1333. Post 48031303 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 19, 2018, 12:49:09 AM
Eddie! Have you been a scoundrel all along?
Not really. Good guy inside.



1334. Post 48032684 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

I reopened a medium-sized short around 5.6k. Just in case she's only teasing us with this move up.

The hardest part is figuring out sensible stops.

Sorry for little OT about btc market.  Tongue




1335. Post 48033025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 19, 2018, 03:42:10 AM
I reopened a medium-sized short around 5.6k. Just in case she's only teasing us with this move up.

The hardest part is figuring out sensible stops.

Sorry for little OT about btc market.  Tongue



What move up Eddie?  
Looking at the hourly chart in retrospect, I see a very tall wicker on a red candle. It almost touched 5700 (bitmex). It happened ~8 hours ago.



1336. Post 48034302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on November 19, 2018, 05:49:04 AM
I reopened a medium-sized short around 5.6k. Just in case she's only teasing us with this move up.

The hardest part is figuring out sensible stops.

Sorry for little OT about btc market.  Tongue

What move up Eddie?  
Looking at the hourly chart in retrospect, I see a very tall wicker on a red candle. It almost touched 5700 (bitmex). It happened ~8 hours ago.
Tall wicker candle not a good sign for a rise in price, indicates indecision and likely downturn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_star_(candlestick_pattern)

Yep. Happy short indeed.

Quote from: jojo69 on November 19, 2018, 05:50:14 AM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Something tells me it's going to be a hard week.



1337. Post 48040419 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 19, 2018, 11:12:26 AM

Can't make out the numbers, but... does this projection place the local low in the 1.5k area?



1338. Post 48042278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 12:37:08 PM

Can't make out the numbers, but... does this projection place the local low in the 1.5k area?

d_eddie what about you? think youre bottom guess is gonna stick or not for the year ?  Wink
Personally, I see sub-5k (4.5k-4.8k?) in early December, and a climb from there until January. Up to maybe 6.1k-6.4k or thereabouts.

Disclaimer Strictly SOMA!



1339. Post 48057303 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 19, 2018, 08:49:00 PM
I believe BCH was the main catalyst at least. But by no means the only factor.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

My conclusion and prediction:

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 Not a good sign.

I have no idea how this unwinds.  But that won't stop me from speculating.

A.
B.
I give A/B chances at 65/35 for fundamental reasons.  This is not 2014.  A lot of smart rich people have figured out exactly what bitcoin is this time around.

(Dear Lord... I feel like I turned into JJG)
Get the fuck out of here with this apparent pretense of being using some kind of self-defined wordy prose just to be able to claim any kind of pretense at being in the vicinity JJG-ness within 63.5-72.2%. Even using numbers and probability. Tsk.



1340. Post 48057665 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: pönde on November 19, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
The only thing that goes up is Lightning  Tongue

 

I hate to sound paranoid... but it's hard when the world is burning like this... but...

Has anyone considered this could be the overture to an attack?

Which one? The rise of LN or crash of price?
LN will stay irrelevant as long as merchants don't adopt it. Its disconnection from the banking system makes rebalancing channels quite hard - a nightmare, the detractors would say. If it busts open due to some bug or exploit, the engaged funds will be lost/stolen. If it holds, it's tantamount to some sort of fuzzy cloud wallet, hostile to tracing by design. Both the alternatives can be attack vectors.



1341. Post 48057798 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

IF YOU ARE CATCHING UP WITH THIS THREAD
Here's the best summary of the last 15-20 pages.


Quote from: sirazimuth on November 19, 2018, 10:39:27 PM
-honey badger  got eaten by a bear
-is crypto dead?
-the next 24 hours are critical
-not gentlemen
-oh noes... my bitcorns
-btfd
-<meme of man jumping out window>
-not lamb chops
-stolfi or wtf his name was...
-<meme of crashing train>
-<meme of roller coaster down>
-<meme of bawling girl>
-<meme of wile e coyote crashing rocket>
-resident troll creaming his jeans
-lots of mcg posts
-wordyman
etc
etc
etc...(and hats)



1342. Post 48057935 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: kingcolex on November 19, 2018, 10:45:51 PM
-honey badger  got eaten by a bear
-is crypto dead?
-the next 24 hours are critical
-not gentlemen
-oh noes... my bitcorns
-btfd
-<meme of man jumping out window>
-not lamb chops
-stolfi or wtf his name was...
-<meme of crashing train>
-<meme of roller coaster down>
-<meme of bawling girl>
-<meme of wile e coyote crashing rocket>
-resident troll creaming his jeans
-lots of mcg posts
-wordyman
etc
etc
etc...(and hats)
You missed <resident troll>'s anti Jew post
It was an oblique hit, not a miss. Matter is, you mention [[[him]]], [[[he]]] resurrects before the three mandatory days. Tsk.



1343. Post 48058482 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: ivomm on November 19, 2018, 10:47:24 PM
Such a panic selling with only good news for Bitcoin. It is a pity... that I don't have available fiat to buy this dip. I am just curious who made profit today - certainly not the traders that sold, nor the miners. The trio scammers Vu, Ver and Wright are rekt the most. The only winners are those who endure this torture and continue to hold without being too greedy. To sell with the hope of buying lower is a catching knife game. You may succeed once or twice but in the end you will cut your fingers.
Trying to find a good side in every corner is an excellent sport.

I consolidated and rebalanced. Recent profits cashed out and turned into harm reduction for the opposing hurting position.

Opening the new short before this shitshower feels almost like winning anyway. Almost.

My play assets will stay approximately flat from here up to ~6k-ish. Down from here it's all gravy. You whales wanna take it down to 4k? Go ahead, I'm on it.

(Never mind my stash, sometimes a hodler's got to find distractions is the point I'm making.)




1344. Post 48058667 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 09:06:54 PM
Merit drop complete and paid.
i guess lately i'm one of the most active @WO but seems to always mis your DRILL things Roll Eyes

luckely binaryreign got it CAUSE he could actually use all 60 and wear his damned HAT

maybe with getting close to it
there is another generous HATcarrier to help out .... i sit pretty low myself  Sad
A legend in spirit already anyway. You sit a tiny bit higher right now  Wink



1345. Post 48058741 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 20, 2018, 02:53:56 AM
Such a panic selling with only good news for Bitcoin. It is a pity... that I don't have available fiat to buy this dip. I am just curious who made profit today - certainly not the traders that sold, nor the miners. The trio scammers Vu, Ver and Wright are rekt the most. The only winners are those who endure this torture and continue to hold without being too greedy. To sell with the hope of buying lower is a catching knife game. You may succeed once or twice but in the end you will cut your fingers.
Trying to find a good side in every corner is an excellent sport.

I consolidated and rebalanced. Recent profits cashed out and turned into harm reduction for the opposing hurting position.

Opening the new short before this shitshower feels almost like winning anyway. Almost.

My play assets will stay approximately flat from here up to ~6k-ish. Down from here it's all gravy. You whales wanna take it down to 4k? Go ahead, I'm on it.

(Never mind my stash, sometimes a hodler's got to find distractions is the point I'm making.)



How much would you say you have made with your shorts in comparison to the losses of your hodled stash?
I don't know. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW! THAT WAS NOT THE POINT!  Angry I won't think of that OK???

Uh, sorry, it's in the 10%-15% ballpark. Joking apart, I had to perform some paper napkin arithmetic to answer your question: I really (try to) avoid fiat accounting for long term btc.



1346. Post 48058925 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 20, 2018, 03:10:45 AM
Well, it's not bad at all. I don't think I have even managed to cushion a ridiculous 5% of the losses with my trading (no leveraged shorting, just regular buy/sells with a small portion of my stash).
Leverage is a power tool. With simple buys/sells, I probably wouldn't have managed that 5%. From your posts, I guess you've got all it takes to use the available tools sensibly. Maybe you should give it a careful shot?

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Well, I hope better times will come.
They will, we all know it. Well, almost all.



1347. Post 48066951 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 20, 2018, 03:45:25 AM
(Dear Lord... I feel like I turned into JJG)

Good job.

Imitation (even if subconsciously) is one of the greatest forms of flattery...

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

(Dear Lord... I feel like I turned into JJG)
Get the fuck out of here with this apparent pretense of being using some kind of self-defined wordy prose just to be able to claim any kind of pretense at being in the vicinity JJG-ness within 63.5-72.2%. Even using numbers and probability. Tsk.

At minimum, he must have been in the JJG wall of text ballpark of inspiring peeps not to read it.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all. And sometimes, size doesn't matter  Wink



1348. Post 48072761 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 20, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
It's scary to catch a falling knife, but you buy now and hold a few yrs, you're good to go. Even if it goes to 2-3K, u'll still make off like a bandit.

Actually, I am not saying that it is not worth it to try to catch a falling knife.  I just know that it is scary, and frequently peeps get criticized for attempting to buy the dip when the bottom remains so uncertain. 

In the long run, profit for sure, but it is just a matter of feeling good that you more or less got a decent price and did not waste too much fiat buying every single dip when you could have waited a bit longer.
My hands were pierced several times while catching falling knives during the big slide from 20k. I'm filing it all under dollar cost averaging, and I'm trying to keep it up now. It's much more satisfying. There's a good side in every corner.



1349. Post 48072809 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 20, 2018, 10:38:31 AM
Ok

My models say the following

*The current downward trend has 48 hours left to run.  

*The Tether FUD article is deliberately timed to power this last 48 hours.

*I don’t have a $ target for this bottom.  

*There will be a relief rally which will be temporary only.  

*This is not the final capitulation bottom.  

I like this angle, and I'm setting up for something like it. The only 'but': no account for weekend boundaries? They still seem to matter some, in my experience. Maybe the relief rally will look like an old-style weekend pump?



1350. Post 48086631 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 20, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
I suppose now would be a good time to have a whip round for the Mayors funeral expenses?
He's not dead, he's resting.
He's run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible. He's an ex-mayor.



1351. Post 48086633 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 20, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
Jesus Christ Ibian Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I don't believe a single one of the people claiming a desire to eat out of her various orifices would actually do it given the chance. Humans simply do not work that way.
The heat of the moment is a thing. Humans do work that way sometimes.



1352. Post 48086714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Chocolate would likely make me wary, quality or not.
Lasagne... uh. No red stuff, either, darling, thanks though.
I guess it's down to different strokes.



1353. Post 48086855 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 21, 2018, 12:28:25 AM
Chocolate would likely make me wary, quality or not.
Lasagne... uh. No red stuff, either, darling, thanks though.
I guess it's down to different strokes.

I would have to be there to see the chef make it and insert, plus her promise not to add any 'special sauce'.
No tunafish lasagne!



1354. Post 48086936 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Torque on November 20, 2018, 02:31:15 PM
This stock market rout is all for show.

I predict all markets will rally hard in early 2019.

And Bitcoin along with it.
what are youre short-middle term BTC thoughts? Roll Eyes

A scary spike down before year end is not out of the question. Although they better get it done soon, as a relief rally next year in the markets will float all boats.
I hope you're right, Torque.



1355. Post 48108813 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

I'm waiting to see what happens when the some of the hashrate on the BCH chains goes back to BTC.



1356. Post 48109747 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on November 21, 2018, 07:38:08 PM
I'm waiting to see what happens when the some of the hashrate on the BCH chains goes back to BTC.

I understand dropping hashrate is causing slower Bitcoin blocks, but does anyone know why there's sometimes huge gaps between blocks, then loads mined within minutes of each other? Is that just random chance, or miners playing tricks?
I don't know the answer to this question. Can it be that lower hash power brings higher variance? I somehow doubt it.

However, if Roger is really scraping the bottom by selling Casascius Coins, it might mean his miners are about to switch. My own implicit question gains weight: what can reasonably expected to happen now?



1357. Post 48124264 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Icygreen on November 22, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
Is it wrong that I'm enjoying watching CSW and his shitcoin self destruct? He just needs to blow through the rest of Calvin Ayre's money and then I'll be happy to see the BTC price to rise again.


There's a suspicion that perhaps Craig is playing this, knowing very well that it'll fail and the direction of the market. Perhaps short positions on bitmex? 
Actually, BCH derivatives on bitmex only account for the ABC side of the split. Or you mean BTC shorts?



1358. Post 48124591 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2018, 08:11:30 PM
I'm waiting to see what happens when the some of the hashrate on the BCH chains goes back to BTC.

I understand dropping hashrate is causing slower Bitcoin blocks, but does anyone know why there's sometimes huge gaps between blocks, then loads mined within minutes of each other? Is that just random chance, or miners playing tricks?
I don't know the answer to this question. Can it be that lower hash power brings higher variance? I somehow doubt it.

However, if Roger is really scraping the bottom by selling Casascius Coins, it might mean his miners are about to switch. My own implicit question gains weight: what can reasonably expected to happen now?
Oh come on... is the basics of mining lost to us? This is basic bitch newbie tier shit, or at least it was when I joined. Look it the fuck up.
Do the basics of mining cover the 3-body problem too? I was trying to stir some discussion about short term ABC/SV balance and possible effects on the BTC chain.



1359. Post 48126861 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 22, 2018, 11:56:46 AM
Has everybody started buying AGAIN now?

I bought pretty much all of my coins in 2014 & am still HODLING most of them now. I decided to stop buying when we went back to $1000 after the Gox crash. Seeing that we reached $19,xxx last year though makes me think these are cheap coins atm.

I bought some the other day & am thinking about buying again today.

So who’s buying now or are you waiting to go lower still?
I am bracing for weekend shenanigans. Hold school sideline style. Oops, old school.



1360. Post 48137306 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

What's with this unusual influx of new users?



1361. Post 48173643 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 23, 2018, 10:52:30 PM
yup, looks still a bit bearish, but close to exhaustion at least for now.

I’m still short but have sharply deleveraged.  A short squeeze to $5k or even above is a real risk.
I see your point. I have cashed out part of it, and a short squeeze to 10k won't be able to upturn (liq) me.



1362. Post 48173674 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

These new accounts - newbs or not - are being a nuisance. The gentlemen here are restraining themselves quite a bit. Don't abuse our patience.



1363. Post 48185305 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Elwar on November 24, 2018, 08:47:09 AM

Umm...the guy said a whole lot of nothing with a lot of words.

Yes, lots of words is what he uses.

But there is an interesting thought on what he calls the ‘Metagame’. In other posts, he describes the behaviour of a coyote encountering a group of humans. The coyote stares down the humans with an expression like ‘I do not care for you humans; I’m not afraid of you’. And puts his nose in the air, turns around and goes away.

The coyote wins this game.

But the humans get together and discuss what they saw. A threatening predator that shows no fear for humans and willing to confront them instead of running away scared at the first sight of humans. The humans vow to hunt this animal so that it’s numbers are decimated.

The humans win. The humans win the Metagame. The coyote is not able to understand that by winning the individual with his behaviour, it is losing the Metagame.

I guess that is what he tries to ask: how is the cryptocurrency community intending to deal with the humans called ‘king’ when taking away their claim on society’s money? How will it save itself from the wrath of the King?

You’ll have to read it all between the lines but I sense that the author understands the tremendous power of of the idea of cryptocurrency. But somehow considers it a lost cause if it’s community does not come to terms with the King on how to blend in and give the King the King’s due.

Personally, I think the King may have less teeth than envisaged. On the other hand, it does is a force to recon with.

This guy does a lot of deep thinking (with a lot of words to express it  Cheesy ). It stems me positive to see some signs that he may be moving ahead in his thinking about cryptocurrency. We won’t make it just with this WO community (sorry guys).

I'm not disagreeing with the guy. Just kept waiting for the metagame portion that you mentioned.

I believe the ideal is that Bitcoin itself is a virus to the king. Slowly consuming until the king (banks) is dead.

Strangely enough, this was discussed in some of our seasteading discussions. We don't want to piss off the puppet masters who actually control things (especially early on). So we may have to put a Citibank on one of the first seasteads as an offering to the gods.
Will they accept local sovereignty? I mean, the Seastead Council - or whoever is in charge - can issue a decree on a whim, to the effect that all local Citibank assets be forfeited since the bank <insert arbitrary reason here>. If I were the coyote, oops, the bank, I'd stay clear of dangerous libertarian communities.



1364. Post 48188300 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 24, 2018, 03:34:49 PM
Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.

What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....
Of course the thought did cross my mind.
My opinion is it will get back there and beyond. Heck, it always did, with a bang.
And if I'm wrong and it never goes back to 20k again, I'll be profiting some anyway.



1365. Post 48188361 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

As someone mentioned recently (sorry can't remember who it was), some kind of newbie jail for the WO wouldn't necessarily be a terribly bad thing.



1366. Post 48239805 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Biodom on November 26, 2018, 04:30:43 AM
I say we just clone Bob over and over and make that our entire race.

It would be quite interesting undertaking to compare bitcoin hodlers/ mid-early investors (say, prior to 2015 or 16) to an average human population.
My expectation would be that there would be many interesting traits.
Something relating to risk taking (maybe even excessive risk), patience, stubbornness, etc.
And geekiness/intellectual curiosity, probably - even more so for pre-2013 folks.



1367. Post 48240174 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

The recent mini crash has been hard on me fiat wise - as I'm sure it's been to anyone holding corn.

However, not all is bad. I managed to close the already suffering long before the downfall and cashed out a winning short that more than made up for it. Then I opened a mini-long and a new short. I closed the long with some profit. I missed the top actually, but I'm trying to be conservative and make small winning moves, rather than big heists. The short is losing at the moment, but I'm confident it will be in profit soon.

I took some risk and changed my mind about stopping shorting BCH. Cashed out a few peanuts again, reopened a small short a bit higher and with a tight stop loss. Some peanuts will be saved either way.

I'm sure we're going to look back to the 2018 endgame with a smile. Surrounded by champagne, lambos, hookers, blow and similar comforts, according to individual taste.

TL;DR No huge profits, but I do have more BTC than I had one week ago. Waiting for better times, as most of the gentlemen in here.



1368. Post 48244572 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

I think we're really going down this time. Barely over 3k when it's all over.



1369. Post 48245122 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 26, 2018, 02:38:01 PM


congrats man

CHEERS and enjoy THAT FINE RED WINE
Hello Mic, what happened to your tattoos? And what's that belly? Too much fine wine & dine lately?  Tongue



1370. Post 48245149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: empowering on November 26, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
So we will go down more ?



Likely
We're already working at it.



1371. Post 48245733 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 26, 2018, 02:58:02 PM


congrats man

CHEERS and enjoy THAT FINE RED WINE
Hello Mic, what happened to your tattoos? And what's that belly? Too much fine wine & dine lately?  Tongue

no man thats one of my (as JJG says)  Micteam WO-posting guys Roll Eyes

i'm the one with the prison tattoo's
Ahh, of course, your inmate buddies. Of course. I see there's quite a variety of white collar/blue collar guys. Cheers!
 Wink



1372. Post 48245823 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Torque on November 26, 2018, 03:09:03 PM
OT:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-26/ohio-set-be-first-us-state-accept-bitcoin-taxes-wsj-report

But...bbut... why would they want a dying ponzi scam instead of fiat, precious?  /s
Civil servants in the RSI hoping to make a runner with criminal internet money?   Cool



1373. Post 48248406 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 26, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
Here comes the pain.
No pain, no gain.
Just endure: take it as supplemental testicle training.
See you at the party Wink



1374. Post 48249855 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Let's stop making fun of the bears. It's their moment now, when they kindly take the corn down so that we may pluck a bit more.



1375. Post 48252375 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: kenzawak on November 26, 2018, 07:57:14 PM
Apparently, interest for the Swiss ETP seems minimal :

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/11/26/amun-crypto-etp-launch-sees-minimal-interest-fails-to-curb-bears/
And deservedly so.

Do we really need a product (a note, not a fund) that is based on issuer debt? It's not even tracking bitcoin, but rather a mixed basket of crypto. Next up, please...



1376. Post 48252562 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Shht! Don't disturb. Rehearsing capitulation.



1377. Post 48253471 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Mainstream media still pounding on the bitcoin slide, bitcoin crash, bitcoin doom. Whatever. It sounds like an orchestrated setup. The winter might be shorter than we think after all.

Oh... sorry it slipped off my tongue. I forgot we're capitulating.

DOOM DOOM, we're all going to die!



1378. Post 48253797 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 26, 2018, 09:25:40 PM
Mainstream media still pounding on the bitcoin slide, bitcoin crash, bitcoin doom. Whatever. It sounds like an orchestrated setup. The winter might be shorter than we think after all.

Oh... sorry it slipped off my tongue. I forgot we're capitulating.

DOOM DOOM, we're all going to die!

I don't think it will be short.

We need to pay for the irrational exuberance of 2017.

The people literally handed tens of billions in coins to a bunch of more than dubious ICO's. The teams behind each one are doing nothing but spending all that coins to pay for their HUGE monthly expenses and salaries. Almost no income. Fuck, it sounds exactly like "the system" we were trying to avoid.

The only hope is that they have already mostly depleted the funds. But I don't know how far we are from that moment.
I suspect the depletion of those funds is part of the reason while we're in the well now.



1379. Post 48253999 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 26, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
I need to examine myself

I recommend Ayahuasca, towards that end.
I'd go with Mescaline. If taken as HCl there's no purging and the experience is so pleasant that I can only barely imagine what kind of dumb shit you would have to do for things to go south.
Ayahuasca is probably better for healing and self-examination.

M is really good stuff, though. Among my favs, Ayahuasca is no match in general. However, I slightly prefer Pedro extract to the pure molecule, which is a little cold and edgy. The extract is rounder, more complex, evolving. Nausea and other stomach discomfort can be managed by making the extract very concentrated and downing it a little at a time, with airtight parachutes.



1380. Post 48254257 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 26, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
I need to examine myself

I recommend Ayahuasca, towards that end.
I'd go with Mescaline. If taken as HCl there's no purging and the experience is so pleasant that I can only barely imagine what kind of dumb shit you would have to do for things to go south.
M is really good stuff. However, I slightly prefer Pedro extract to the pure molecule, which is a little cold and edgy. The extract is rounder, more complex, evolving. Nausea and other stomach discomfort can be managed by making the extract very concentrated and downing it a little at a time, with airtight parachutes.
I could see myself trying Peyote (as Pedros took more volume I believe) if that is true.

Are you sure you're not just tricking your mind by preferring "natural" substances though? Because Mescaline HCl (extracted from Peyote) felt like a psychedelic version of MDMA to me. I could probably be set on fire and still feel like reality is the most wonderful thing that could ever be. I honestly can't begin to imagine how anything could be even more warm and fuzzy without losing the psychedelic aspect.
I don't think I'm victim to the "If it's natural, it must be better" New Age fallacy. What does "natural" mean anyway? Low tech? Indeed, I look at selected designer drugs with favor, and choose them over "natural" depending on the intended application.

Peyote contains more M than Pedro, and less additional stuff (I mean other alkaloids).
I think it's the additional stuff that gives extra magic to Pedro.
The Pedro/Peyote difference in extract volume can't make that big a difference in discomfort IMO.

I agree that M, and Pedro even more so, have a definite empathic feeling not unlike MDMA, especially at the onset, somewhere between 2:00 and 4:30. M and Pedro feel subtler, less stimulant (dreamy at times) and less "pushy" than MDMA.  Yes I did take notes. It's been quite a while since my last time with either MDMA or anything containing mescaline.



1381. Post 48254401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: kaeltr on November 26, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
All the drugs mentioned here lead to low Test-levels, which makes you weak and leads to stress, which further lowers Test.

In the end you will get bald and get a voice like a female. You really want that?
In the end we're all dead, says my baritone.
Party pooper.



1382. Post 48254746 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 26, 2018, 10:21:19 PM
M definitely feels less pushy and less stimulant. However, it was anything but subtle (at 400, 750 and 1000 mg).
Right. It's the empathy that is subtler. However, OD'ing on M is quite hard in my limited experience. I've had doses over 1g (500mg HCl and estimated 600+ mg M extract) without any harm. The slow comeup probably helps to keep the bad feelings at bay.

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Curiously enough I did not find it to be dreamy unless I removed all sensory input (which was the first time I've gotten to experience what the fuck "nothing" is all about on an experiential as opposed to intellectual level). I was actually surprised at how lucid I felt given the dosage and could even solve some integrals (which I like to do to asses my mental capabilities while using substances from time to time).
Everyone is different, and then maybe Peyote/Pedro are a bit different too after all. But I don't think I could have tackled anything beyond simple arithmetic at the peak (which, as you know, is quite lengthy). Playing even simple music was a bit of a feat: I lacked the motivation/conviction.

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Have you tried staggering the doses to reduce the nausea or anything like that by the way?
No real staggering. Even on the highest doses, it took under 20 minutes to swallow the whole shebang. I never felt any serious stomach discomfort. I was suggested grapefruit juice as a popular folk remedy, and heeded the advice. However, I think avoiding any contact with my taste buds is what really helped.



1383. Post 48254833 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 26, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
Noooooo, seriously?
You’re fucking with me, surely?

Look at what’s going on around you.  Wall Street is priming the powder keg.  Everyone in the world knows about Bitcoin but none of them own any.

If that’s a serious prediction from you we’ll be rich beyond our wildest dreams.
Actually, my wildest dreams stretch quite a bit beyond that... dreams, OK.  Cool

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Get ready for the micgoosens celebratory Belgian rap video Grin Cheesy
I can't wait for that!!



1384. Post 48254842 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: kaeltr on November 26, 2018, 10:45:59 PM
All the drugs mentioned here lead to low Test-levels, which makes you weak and leads to stress, which further lowers Test.

In the end you will get bald and get a voice like a female. You really want that?
In the end we're all dead, says my baritone.
Party pooper.

I think you mean alto.
Get your octaves right, kiddo.



1385. Post 48254985 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: kaeltr on November 26, 2018, 10:53:23 PM
All the drugs mentioned here lead to low Test-levels, which makes you weak and leads to stress, which further lowers Test.

In the end you will get bald and get a voice like a female. You really want that?
In the end we're all dead, says my baritone.
Party pooper.

I think you mean alto.
Get your octaves right, kiddo.

dunno, your avatar is showing a receding hairline too.
 Embarrassed
Testosterone is actually a contributing factor to hair loss.



1386. Post 48255103 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 26, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
That actually makes sense. The only time I was uncomfortable was with a 10ug ride on DOM. Which 15 minutes in was already pretty intense, whilst quickly climbing in intensity for around an hour.
Oh DOM... I've loved that stuff. Hard to come by recently. 10 mg (I think you mean mg, not ug) are a serious dose, though. And DOC... uh, I'd better stop now.

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No real staggering. Even on the highest doses, it took under 20 minutes to swallow the whole shebang. I never felt any serious stomach discomfort. I was suggested grapefruit juice as a popular folk remedy, and heeded the advice. However, I think avoiding any contact with my taste buds is what really helped.
Have you managed to do so successfully, and if so how? I jammed my salts into gelatin capsules, but that would take roughly a billion of them for powdered Pedros.
It depends how good you are at swallowing things that have a jagged papery surface. For smallish bits, cigarette papers are optimal. Larger pieces or runny stuff require sturdier wrapping, such as parchment paper (the sheets used in ovens when baking), but it increases volume even more, so I'd advise to keep them as small as possible. Hint: freezing the tar helps a lot.



1387. Post 48255170 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: vapourminer on November 26, 2018, 10:07:54 PM
Skip the dreads and terrors of the tea, and go straight for the DMT

He wanted to examine himself, so I felt it important enough to specifically recommend Ayahuasca over raw DMT.

What good is self-reflection if you're not covered in your own vomit and feces ?

damn. whatever happened to just dropping some good acid?
It's wonderful, but its side effects are nasty. People just go and start fucking around on bitmex at 100x.



1388. Post 48256139 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 27, 2018, 12:48:44 AM
It looks like the low is in or it's pretty close.

Anyway, I was sifting through my old bookmarks and found this interesting article about bitcoin from December 2016.

https://medium.com/@mcasey0827/speculative-bitcoin-adoption-price-theory-2eed48ecf7da

I wouldn't say we in the "Boring low" yet. Maybe a depressing or devastating low... but the price still has some life.

And I still don't see enough people selling for good. The price might be low, but there is still too much confidence in a future bull run that will made us all rich.
@Bitcoinaire - Interesting paper. Old, but well researched and still valid. Merited.

@bitserve - You're right the despair is still insufficient, but let's consider the sample: a small community of hardcore hodlers and very early adopters. Very skewed, I'd say.



1389. Post 48265087 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 27, 2018, 03:51:06 AM
man

I remember real MDMA

I don't think they have that any more
Or is it just that you aren't the same any more? That magic is fragile.



1390. Post 48265128 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 27, 2018, 07:59:00 AM
So, no; jbreher is not becoming nervous during these trying times. Get the fuck out of here with your ridiculous mischaracterizing projection defense mechanisms.

JJG is a controversial character: a WO staple food but unsavoury to some, a rhetorical nightmare for the discerning reader but a force feeder of sense for the noob and the faith losing initiate.

One thing we can all agree with: his style has been shaped into memes by sympathizers and adversaries alike. Perhaps?



1391. Post 48266929 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 27, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
I guess we're going to see a big swing in value today. Hard to predict if it'll be upside or downside.

We are due a short squeeze soon.  I’m using very low leverage.  
Indeed. Low leverage too, and I'm getting out of it. Reopening a little long position just in case (with tight stop).



1392. Post 48267324 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Done exiting the short. Scraped a few more pennies. Not opening a long immediately: I'm sitting on the sidelines for a while. I just love this swinging volatility.



1393. Post 48272340 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Well, she couldn't say "Nobody gives a shit what we do, our customer department is idling" anyway.
Let them fix regulatory approval or whatever. The facts and the numbers will speak soon enough.



1394. Post 48275102 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 27, 2018, 04:00:31 PM
Perhaps?

That. What you did there. I see it.

 Cool



1395. Post 48275834 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 27, 2018, 04:33:49 PM
https://blog.goodaudience.com/bitcoin-network-momentum-a42346b2f0ce

Bitcoin Network Momentum
A new leading indicator for Bitcoin price during its major market cycles

Very good reading. Thanks for the interesting link.
These new (for me) blockchain analysis tools have the flair of ingenuous thinking.

Some more good articles linked from there:

A long term indicator for market prediction. It is aimed at separating hodlers from traders, trying to account for lost/unredeemed coins. It doesn't use moving averages, so it's in some ways uncorrelated to other popular indicators.
https://blog.goodaudience.com/bitcoin-market-value-to-realized-value-mvrv-ratio-3ebc914dbaee

Another indicator, more traditional in a way, since it does use timed averages.
https://woobull.com/nvt-signal-a-new-trading-indicator-to-pick-tops-and-bottoms/

Two slightly older papers laying the foundation for NVT Signal.
https://medium.com/cryptolab/https-medium-com-kalichkin-rethinking-nvt-ratio-2cf810df0ab0
https://woobull.com/introducing-nvt-ratio-bitcoins-pe-ratio-use-it-to-detect-bubbles/

I'd merit you, ssmc2, but I used up my quota of sMerit for legendaries, and I'm only left with a handful of candy for ordinary guys. Have this as a replacement token.

+1 WOsMerit



1396. Post 48278167 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 27, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Do bitcoiners have a super low libido or something? I remember a while back someone asked if we would prefer to have 3 bitcoins on the clause that we could never get more, a tulip farm with a guaranteed yearly income for life, or to be married to some random hot chick (with picture). Not one of us chose the chick.
Not one of you chose to be married to the hot chick.



1397. Post 48278893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 27, 2018, 06:49:13 PM
In mildly entertaining entomologies
https://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/page-1300 and ff
https://medium.com/@_unwriter/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-cash-experiment-52b86d8cd187

The second link is an article by a bcasher who leans towards SV. Here's a quote.

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And to win trust from these people [ed: fantastic developers, who are the kings of bitcoin and bcash etc], Bitcoin needs to show that it’s scalable, stable, and permissionless. Without scalability, it’s not so attractive to these people because they would rather spend their energy building things on other platforms that they can benefit exponentially from. And without the perception of permissionless innovation and stability, wise developers will not want to waste their energy building stuff on top of Bitcoin because they don’t want to wake up one day to find that the rules of the game have changed overnight and all their effort has gone to waste.

Note the last sentence in the excerpt:
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…they don’t want to wake up one day to find that the rules of the game have changed overnight and all their effort has gone to waste.

(Which is what would have happened to a bitcoiner waking up after a big blocker coup.)

The sequence is: you first build and test, then deploy and put to work. Then, if/when necessary, scaling will come by itself.

And by the way, which marvelous applications have these developers built on bcash? Anything worthy? Anything at all that couldn't work on bitcoin?



1398. Post 48279081 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on November 27, 2018, 07:40:08 PM
ETH is a Protocol for transmitting value blah blah blah.

ETH is closer to the Internet than Money because blah blah

Blah blah ETH is a Protocol for transmitting Value.

Both of these core protocols are the basis on which global networks are being built.

ETH is the third Protocol blah blah

Bitcoin is the second Protocol after the Internet. Now there is not even one application for it.

JJG, would you care to tell this gentleman where he could GTF to - using as many words as YOU feel necessary! - please? I'm too tired for that right now...

3:)



1399. Post 48279135 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 27, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator


Normal i don’t drink during the week, but cause its a special day for roach... i decided to go for a quick bite and a glass of red wine

Cheers
I'm awestruck by the luxury in Belgian prisons. Vintage red wine served in proper glasses...!?

(Sorry Mic! I couldn't resist. Today I'm in a taunting mood Wink)

(On second thought, that wine doesn't look too vintage. Too purplish. Could be a nouveau.)



1400. Post 48279352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 27, 2018, 08:34:26 PM
^^
its was just a very quick cheap red house wine, like you would get in a prison Wink
Yes, I realized soon after posting and edited my original teasing post.  Grin



1401. Post 48298410 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

I, too, think we're not done yet. I'm still optimistic medium term - and very optimistic long term.



1402. Post 48303334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 28, 2018, 06:48:27 PM
hopefully
https://www.dictionary.com/e/hopefully/
Think that battle is lost. Sadly, it's a 'sentence adverb' now.
I feel you, bro. We will forget this in due time, hopefully.

Yes, 'sadly' has been a 'sentence adverb' for quite a while.



1403. Post 48310171 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 28, 2018, 09:26:28 PM
I'm back on the doom train guys.

I think this is just to get our hopes up so the next leg down hurts more.
Sure, but first we consolidate, then we rekt the shorts,
then doom
Standing on two legs. Keep balance and become a bit richer.



1404. Post 48310175 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on November 28, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
Hopefully that Robin hood isn’t as bad as been written.... Roll Eyes

I can't be any worse than the one with Kevin Costner.
It can.



1405. Post 48318732 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 29, 2018, 07:16:22 AM
I am trying to understand what you just said. If I understand it correctly, instead of closing your current short what you did is buy an equal amount of BTC so that you are hedged if the price continues to go up but, ok. But, if instead it goes down, your short is in profit but you lose an equal value on your recently bought physical. So basically you are paying lending fees for nothing?

Does it have anything to do with taxes? I really can't understand why you would do that instead of just closing the short... or I am missing something here.

I believe that the price will go down in the short term and up in the long term.  So I believe that I can turn a short term profit on my short and a long term profit on the physical.  I also believe that profit will exceed any lending fees.  But if I am totally wrong, my position is neutral (other than lending fees) until I decide to close the short.  Lending fees are sufficiently low over the relevant time span that they can be disregarded.  

On the other hand, if I close my short all I do is crystalise the loss.
The two legs to keep balance.  

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Maybe I should be buying options instead to hedge the short but I haven't gotten my head around how to properly price that scenario. 
I haven't thought about options yet, either. Options where? Binance?



1406. Post 48318800 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Corn is fluttering
Observer unattended
Infofront's baby


CONGRATS!  Wink



1407. Post 48319458 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 29, 2018, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: Hairy
Maybe I should be buying options instead to hedge the short but I haven't gotten my head around how to properly price that scenario.  
I haven't thought about options yet, either. Options where? Binance?
no binance is where you go to lose money on shitcoins
deribit is the place if you want to lose money on options
but deribit is getting love and liquidity; dyor ymmv byob etc
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1P_1oxI07oWp1u_UuRuQBA
https://medium.com/@ThinkingUSD/deribit-bitcoin-options-and-volatility-b370ba276761
https://medium.com/@NeoButane/a-short-guide-to-deribit-bitcoin-options-80bac43d8d03

but i keep saying you would all (most of you ok) make much more using simplefx, trading cfd's (there are other platforms)
if even i can get my head round that you bipedal poets can too
Agreed, options are hairy beasts at least for me. I need to study before even considering getting my big toes wet. Thanks for sharing the info! You seem to be informed about just anything.



1408. Post 48356345 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 30, 2018, 06:47:31 PM
^^ ^^^ Lack of bandwidth was the main sticking point mentioned up there, not costs.
How far off is this Schnorr signatures and would it help?
Schnorr sigs are RealSoonNow(TM).
They're expected to reduce transaction size by an additional 25% (not sure if it's an average figure or best case).



1409. Post 48356883 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: mindrust on November 30, 2018, 07:54:20 PM
Micro SD cards aren't a good idea for storing blockchain data because you write down data constantly and sd cards are way more crappier than solid state disks it will end up dead in a short time.

Also they aren't $22 neither. Found this one for $45 and I fail to see the write speed which is probably shit. (probably doesn't matter tho) If you are going to spend that much just buy a 1tb or even a 500gb hdd and boot your rpi from there.

Just get a netbook with an atom processor from 2010 (asus eee pc) for 100 bucks and it will do the job like kings. Netbook batteries will last 5 to 10 hours too in case some power outage happens...
Indeed my first full node was a Pi with a 256M SD and it failed really soon (a few months, maybe 2-3).
Not worth it.
The old netbook route is the way to go.



1410. Post 48395469 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on December 02, 2018, 04:13:06 AM

Imagine if I actually had something worthwhile to say, no one would ever read it unless someone quoted me.
Thanks all that continue to quote my drivel  Grin

In a nutshell, that's it.



1411. Post 48395540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 02, 2018, 11:34:59 AM
Actually you have two. I admire you secretly too. I also like to bash you. Because man, you are too wordy.
But your determination is admirable. And you often can keep up. Like a peasant ploughing the furrow, you persist.
bravo/piss off.
Now how about a round of piña colada to make up and a parting kiss?



1412. Post 48395629 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 02, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator
You crack me up, man!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



1413. Post 48410535 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

It's almost too easy, shorting this thing down to 0. There must be some shakeout retribution or this is not bitcoin. I'm betting on it.



1414. Post 48417980 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 03, 2018, 04:48:57 AM
It's almost too easy, shorting this thing down to 0. There must be some shakeout retribution or this is not bitcoin. I'm betting on it.

It’s not *that* easy.  Don’t sell yourself short.  
Well it might be not that easy to get the absolute maximum out of it, but even a somewhat sloppy attitude still allows the careful guy to get along well, with some lost profit on the theoretical max of course.

I still stand by my gut feeling - which after due digestion gets to SOMA status - that some swift, cruel short rekting is around the corner.



1415. Post 48418150 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 03, 2018, 12:35:39 PM
Beautiful hats I hope to get one, but I'm not sure how it happens, my MaineCoon cat would look great in a hat. Cool

You're just a tad green. Keep it up and you'll get your hat in no time. We have a first class mad hatter here.



1416. Post 48418461 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

More negativity and FUD from MSM. Prepping the cows for the upcoming milking?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-is-close-to-becoming-worthless-2018-12-03

Shorting mates, be safe and tight.



1417. Post 48418485 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 03, 2018, 04:50:49 AM
As something of a connoisseur, I can say that is a truly fine Molotov hit.

Perfect mix (it's all about how much air you leave in the bottle, very touchy), excellent delivery, and superlative documentation.

9.5/10
I'm not sure I get that. Was there a link that got edited out?



1418. Post 48418568 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 03, 2018, 06:22:40 AM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
I, for one, would be pickier about my hookers.



1419. Post 48418607 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on December 03, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
I have merit and no hat Kiss

Have you asked nicely and provided a decent sized picture of your liking?
I haven't ever noticed Homer leaving a fellow WO-er hatless for long.



1420. Post 48418623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 03, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
As something of a connoisseur, I can say that is a truly fine Molotov hit.

Perfect mix (it's all about how much air you leave in the bottle, very touchy), excellent delivery, and superlative documentation.

9.5/10
I'm not sure I get that. Was there a link that got edited out?
The burning policethug a few posts beforehand.
Thanks. I'm a dimwit today.



1421. Post 48418666 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Elwar on December 03, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
I wouldn't, either, but you know, hodlers be hodling.
The adoption hit would be something.



1422. Post 48419350 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 03, 2018, 01:04:57 PM
Hairy made a funny-but-wise and you seemed to have missed it, or certainly not lolled enough.
I did get the 'selling short' bit, but I wanted to make a point because my SOMA system has been beeping for hours. Which makes me less inclined to lol.

That doesn't detract from my dimwit state. It's been a hard weekend.



1423. Post 48421987 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 03, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
Hairy made a funny-but-wise and you seemed to have missed it, or certainly not lolled enough.
I did get the 'selling short' bit, but I wanted to make a point because my SOMA system has been beeping for hours. Which makes me less inclined to lol.

That doesn't detract from my dimwit state. It's been a hard weekend.
Sorry to hear it and sorry for impugning you. I confess I switch off at the soma thing.
Now I look at what you said, what's wrong with 'some swift, cruel short rekting is around the corner.'?
Are you still short?
I am, and smiling. My position wasn't likely to liquidate in any case, though. Not unless the price spiked above 20k.



1424. Post 48422486 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

A little shake down...



1425. Post 48422519 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on December 03, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
sick of these idiots that say "this is not investment advice" then they proceed to give investment advice.
Did the doctor order you to follow this thread?



1426. Post 48422751 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 03, 2018, 03:57:06 PM
Capitulation is definitely in, every post is that crypto is going down and nothing can stop it. Coindesk is declaring it crypto winter and we need to wuick looking at the price. People are memeing that Bitcoin is just a downward ride.

It's here and we may have already hit bottom or not but we're fucking close with that continuous Doom and gloom mindset.

We won't have capitulated until we stop talking about capitulation. We won't have bottommed until we stop talking about bottoms.
Which includes bottom pictures?  Sad



1427. Post 48422828 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on December 03, 2018, 04:03:07 PM

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways and satellites.

Honestly I would rather live in hunter gatherer times. Before agriculture started
But they only lived 40 years if they were lucky.

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Suicide was practically non existent among indigenous tribes.  It's clear that modern society is ruining peoples mental health and happiness.
There wasn't much time to think about suicide is my guess.



1428. Post 48423087 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 04:19:58 PM
(snip)

Which includes bottom pictures?  Sad
That's what I'm here for, I followed booty pictures on Google images and accidentally ended up being invested into crypto and stressing about price on the daily.

Well, a few OT posts about daily prices etc are tolerated here, as long as we do post our mandatory bottoms when they're due. Or when they aren't, for that matter.



1429. Post 48423607 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on December 03, 2018, 04:30:18 PM
Most males are jealous of these rich playboys that have sluts lining up to fuck them.

These guys say they prefer true love and such but they are really just jealous they aren't in their shoes.
I'll be honest. I want the best of both worlds. Does "true love" really rule out any strictly dick-only fling once in a while?

In the words of Jack Breil:
Quote
Bien sûr tu pris quelques amants
Il fallait bien passer le temps
Il faut bien que le corps exulte

Said by a guy who obviously still loves her madly.



1430. Post 48423776 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

In "altcoin news": BCH(ABC) is slowly bleeding out in the BCH-BTC pair, even with bitcoin's deeper and deeper plunge.
I'm milking it again.



1431. Post 48423988 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
In "altcoin news": BCH(ABC) is slowly bleeding out in the BCH-BTC pair, even with bitcoin's deeper and deeper plunge.
I'm milking it again.
SV is winning that fight? You're fucking kidding me?
I'm not saying that!
SV has indeed gained some since the fork, but it doesn't look like it's "winning".



1432. Post 48424428 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 03, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
In "altcoin news": BCH(ABC) is slowly bleeding out in the BCH-BTC pair, even with bitcoin's deeper and deeper plunge.
I'm milking it again.
SV is winning that fight? You're fucking kidding me?
I'm not saying that!
SV has indeed gained some since the fork, but it doesn't look like it's "winning".

Get the fuck out of here with your SV shilling, this is a serious Bitcoin thread!
No bcash shill here. Quite the contrary.

I just said ABC/SV is more balanced than it was when the fork happened. Their combined value, I believe, is still drifting down slowly and steadily. I am not holding a single SV or ABC. Well, unless you count a few negative ABC's.  Wink

(EDIT) Or is it just another case of dumb wits? Today I'm not getting humor, for some mysterious reason.



1433. Post 48424620 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Pirate Bitters on December 03, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
The hooker I fuck each week is now accepting bitcoin.
Always the same?  Shocked
You might as well go steady.  Tongue



1434. Post 48427172 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: kurious on December 03, 2018, 07:21:35 PM
I will overlook the misspelling of great man's name Wink
I misspelt the name on purpose, though I'm not sure what the purpose was anymore.
Thank you Smiley

EDIT I guess I was just trying to be humorous on the wrong day.



1435. Post 48433451 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

1 On the 30 minute chart, quasibarts, quasi-head'n'shoulders, and a stepwise decay.


1


2 A wider view on the 6 hour scale shows two similar but steeper, scarier stairs preceded by smaller oscillations, on similar and much longer timeframes.  Bractals, as in fast barts flowering on top of long slow squat barts. Our current timescale looks like a couple of small grainy mammoths at the end of the chart (the first is slanted).

(A question for learned problem solvers: can similar patterns be spotted in the past bear cycles? 2013? 2014? Serious.)

2


On the basis of such sophisticated PA (Poetic Analysis, a strictly qualitative discipline), I managed to feed new fuel into my short, green again at last.  Now she can go back down or further if she so wishes, but I'd like her to revisit at least  the 4.2-4.3 region, just for the good ol'times, baby.  I'm not calling it, just to be clear.  She can't be tamed.



1436. Post 48433850 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 03, 2018, 05:50:25 PM
But they only lived 40 years if they were lucky.

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Suicide was practically non existent among indigenous tribes.  It's clear that modern society is ruining peoples mental health and happiness.
There wasn't much time to think about suicide is my guess.

The Hobbesian "nasty brutish and short" fallacy again.
OK. I've just read about that (life expectancy vs. span) and I now see your point, which however doesn't change the big picture. Low average means that if you pick one existence at random among the actual ones that there were, you are likely to be cut off before you taste, say, the joy of sex. In other words, not everyone can be Plinius' aunt.

I agree that a hunter-gatherer life, if purged of the inevitable brutality, is more fun in mostly any way. No boss but the priest. Easier women. Not much to fear from your peers (except for the other gang, well they too will eat you for obvious reasons, but that's just normal).



1437. Post 48434851 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 03, 2018, 03:58:19 PM
A little shake down...
... and one up.



1438. Post 48434932 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: becoin on December 04, 2018, 06:24:56 AM
Fucking hell

Why?
I love to gobble up cheap coins!

Call me paranoid, but I just see quickening stop hunting expeditions.

When I suspect some of this jabberwockery might be coming, I like to open an opposing position, preventively set up to cash out asap. The preventive setup is essential for platforms where the system just gets "too busy" to place/edit orders on fast movements - if they don't plain disconnect you, which just happened to me.

And keep the leverage/exposition low, low, low. They will fuck with you if the position's "too big not to fail".

/paranoia



1439. Post 48435198 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 04, 2018, 06:36:25 AM

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(the joos woof woof)

You have said it a few times before, so just in case anyone might have possibly forgotten, you have been there to save WO readers (anyone reading your posts) from any possible loss of memory and repaint your exaggerated story in your own misleading and distracting kind of way.  

Thanks Roach:


Are you white-knighting Bob with our local Nazi silverbug?  Shocked

I mean, black and gay... this might be impossible to pull off even in 2.5-3.5k words.



1440. Post 48435318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 04, 2018, 06:49:33 AM
Well, should probably go without saying, I rescind my offer of throwing a $100k party, if/when the milestone is achieved. If I've fucked up an intended good-faith beer offering in this thread so badly due to bad planning/foresight on my part or whatever, I have no business pondering more grandiose "events". Not to mention the considerable scorn I have accrued, bearing down upon me, is beginning to weigh heavily on me.

All my calls have turned out to be contrarian, looking back through the lens of retrospection.

I offer nothing of value to this thread.

I should just delete this account and get on with life in meatspace...
Come on, Bob, don't be a drama queen now. You know you can check out any time you like...



1441. Post 48435607 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Allright, you cutie... that was some good sucky sucky. Now if you could just come with me to 4.2-4.3k - or even a little higher, in case you feel like giving me a happy happy ending - now that would really be great.

I promise I won't be long, baby. And only if it suits you, eh.



1442. Post 48435736 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

(...but you can never leave.  Tongue)



1443. Post 48445237 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 04, 2018, 12:23:58 PM
Special thanks to PoolMinor for compiling this list.

After much thought, in the spirit of fulfilling my promise, and to spite all the haters, I am offering to send 0.000777 BTC (to anyone within 20 pages of my boastful post @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg30630119#msg30630119 - the below compiled list) if you PM me with a BTC address.
I'm glad to see my name in this list of virtual beer mates.

Drink it yourself (enjoy in moderation, that's probably too much beer for just a couple guys). With a toast to her maybe. You'll still owe me one at the party: tropical island, Vegas, whatever... though the suggestion of renting George Martin's place really resonated with me.  Wink

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My sincere hope is that this shuts up JJG, and I get to knock him the fuck out at the $100k party.
Shutting him up? Are you serious? Hopeless task.  Tongue

About hopeless tasks: he's not that bad though. He defended you fiercely with the cockroach, before of course denying he did (in under 100 words! What a phony denial.)

(No homo) A makeup kiss would be great (hint hint).



1444. Post 48445642 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on December 04, 2018, 03:02:38 PM
Looks like we're going to hit $4,100

Yep then drop
I'm hoping for a slightly higher range, like 4.2-4.3 possibly 4.5k even.
But you know her - gotta be a joker, she just do what she please.

A quote from the Boatles (seasteading before its time), or were they called the Roaches or something...?



1445. Post 48445711 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 04, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
tooooooo much Grin (haven't visited too often)
also people from Belgium are called Belgians.
we don't want two Belgiums or more because that would be too confusing to contemplate Tongue
but you can never have too many Belgians. Cool

Hey you, fucker, why did you call me a socialist? Don't look the other way now!
Cause you sound like one sometimes maybe? Disillusioned with state power and social democracies for sure - you're a main player in the WO after all - but still on the "social" more than the "anarcho-libertarian" side.

Disclaimer: I never called you that. Just thinking aloud.



1446. Post 48446398 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

We avoided lemming mammoths and barted out of the rut, but this is not it IMO.







1447. Post 48446500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

If there's any need of any more circumstantial evidence, volume is still not there. The local peek on the weekly was a couple weeks ago. On a red stick.




1448. Post 48447576 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 04, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
Got my 0.000777btc beer coin. Dude's for real.

Thanks again Bob. You're my uncle.
Cheers man understand why you took it.... those damn hot days in Mexico

I accepted in spirit, but I thought let's keep blockchain spam down and opsec up. V8's trust rating speaks for me too.



1449. Post 48449290 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 04, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
Went to Amsterdam when I was 21, fucked a Ukranian girl
They really knock me out... they leave the west behind.

Quote
& a girl from Colorado.
... but Georgia's always on my mind.


Quote
Better leave my gf at home  Cheesy
Gf? Which gf??  Roll Eyes



1450. Post 48449397 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 04, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
Below is a list of some of the biggest names in Bitcoin and crypto and that they think about the impending growth.
https://u.today/bitcoin-price-prediction-in-20202025-how-much-will-bitcoin-be-worth
Oh come on... cut the noob some slack, will ya?



1451. Post 48449475 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 04, 2018, 06:14:56 PM

Is that our Goose in good company on the way to a fancy restaurant? Hmm, no prison tattoos, so no.

EDIT It could still be someone from his team of posting geese, shot with lady Goose as proof of identity.



1452. Post 48449981 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on December 04, 2018, 06:33:49 PM
No slack for plagiarism, rules are rules.  
Fair enough. I hadn't noticed that list had been posted here before. Things like that happen all the time, however.

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And for fuck's sake, you guys!  6 merits for that plagiarism?  If d_eddie jumps off a bridge...
I think I've been the quickest of the bunch for once is all.
My point being: to avoid the circle jerk feedback effect, we do need to encourage newcomers that take a shot at quality posting.



1453. Post 48450377 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 04, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
No slack for plagiarism, rules are rules.  
Fair enough. I hadn't noticed that list had been posted here before. Things like that happen all the time, however.

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And for fuck's sake, you guys!  6 merits for that plagiarism?  If d_eddie jumps off a bridge...
I think I've been the quickest of the bunch for once is all.
My point being: to avoid the circle jerk feedback effect, we do need to encourage newcomers that take a shot at quality posting.
no need for this disingenuousness and deflection. just admit your tiny mistake and move on. you gain credibility that way, but not this.

OK, sure.
So here goes - mistakes have been made.
 Tongue Tongue Tongue



1454. Post 48450453 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 04, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
No slack for plagiarism, rules are rules.  
Fair enough. I hadn't noticed that list had been posted here before. Things like that happen all the time, however.

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And for fuck's sake, you guys!  6 merits for that plagiarism?  If d_eddie jumps off a bridge...
I think I've been the quickest of the bunch for once is all.
My point being: to avoid the circle jerk feedback effect, we do need to encourage newcomers that take a shot at quality posting.
no need for this disingenuousness and deflection. just admit your tiny mistake and move on. you gain credibility that way, but not this.

OK, sure.
So here goes - mistakes have been made.
 Tongue Tongue Tongue

What kind of man admits his mistakes? You have lost all credibility.
Where exactly did I admit the mistake was MINE?  Shocked



1455. Post 48451155 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 04, 2018, 07:17:21 PM
I was the one who made a mistake. Also, I enjoy granny porn.

I'll cut some slack to the dubious quote. Laughing hard and much too loud as I award you my next to last sMerit.



1456. Post 48451991 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 04, 2018, 08:30:06 PM

Dental implants don’t come cheap man Cheesy
I want a full set of porcelain veneer’s as white as my butt. Going to go to Turkey for them next summer Smiley

Mine broke last week eating cheetohs!
I guess they were not high enough quality, I will have a discussion with the dentist next month.

Low quality cheetos should be banned worldwide! Dentists can't do much about that.



1457. Post 48453055 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 04, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
https://twitter.com/btcking555/status/1070068239542206465

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BTCKING555 @btcking555
 11m 11 minutes ago

We got leak of Bitmain Q3 numbers! COMPLETE DISASTER. The company lost $740 Million including losses on inventory and bitcoin cash! And this is not accounting for hash war costs! #bitmainipo @HKEXGroup
They needed that fork as another hole in their head books.



1458. Post 48454117 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on December 04, 2018, 10:45:47 PM
I believe I put them on ignore because they were being extremely chatty with JJG one day and I was tired of seeing walls of texts/rebuttals. No offense d_eddie.

None taken. Admittedly, there are days when I'm hyperactive here, and I could hardly bear with myself if I weren't myself.



1459. Post 48469028 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

My bcash-ABC short is getting prettier. Its prettiness doubled in 24 hours. Wish I'd had the foresight to short harder.



1460. Post 48473069 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
I already have the post in if you want to visit, link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080565.0

I would be happy if you participate with any comments
If you have any criticism or something to add I listen to your suggestions

Thanks  Cool

Oh hey that's a good topic and a good reminder.

Come on WObservers, go over there and support our new prodigy please.
The only traction he's getting so far is from weirdos and decepticons.

And socialists.  Tongue



1461. Post 48473557 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 05, 2018, 07:54:01 PM
I already have the post in if you want to visit, link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080565.0

I would be happy if you participate with any comments
If you have any criticism or something to add I listen to your suggestions

Thanks  Cool

Oh hey that's a good topic and a good reminder.

Come on WObservers, go over there and support our new prodigy please.
The only traction he's getting so far is from weirdos and decepticons.

And socialists.  Tongue


No, no, no... I took a test yesterday and it said I am a liberal.. whatever that shit is. I don't agree with the result but at least it didn't say I am a socialist!

Hmm, but if the test's made in the USA... a USA "liberal" is a "socialist" in EU-speak!



1462. Post 48473837 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 08:16:35 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6462775/Mens-penises-half-inch-smaller-chemicals-non-stick-frying-pans.html

And we all know penis size correlates inversely with possession of lambos. Which is why Lamborghini is secretly funding several Teflon factories to gain perspective customers.

/conspiracytheory




1463. Post 48486196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 06, 2018, 07:56:43 AM
There is some serious intellectual firepower in this thread. I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t a couple of Nobel laureates lurking. 
You mean both negatives?



1464. Post 48486556 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: nutildah on December 06, 2018, 03:33:53 AM
ETH now manfully engaged in the fight to become a double digit shitcoin.

Will it pull it off?

With aplomb.

I don't understand all this hate for ETH... It supports this gigantic, flourishing ecosystem of projects -- yes, many of them are shit but some of them are pretty interesting and legitimate. I think things like Maker, Augur and 0x are at the very least entertaining experiments that push the bounds of what can be done with the blockchain. Decentraland is also interesting as well.
Augur has been a failure, and it keeps on diving. RSK will make integration of external oracles so easy that we can expect healhy competition in that area. If the thing really takes off, it could start an unprecedented adoption wave for prediction markets, anonymous betting etc.


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I also don't know how they can shift the whole thing to PoS... PoW is probably also the biggest downfall of BTC. The amount of energy that goes into mining is simply retarded.
You don't say?  Roll Eyes



1465. Post 48498149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 06, 2018, 03:30:03 PM


Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018...   but what do I know?  



The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult.

However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down.

Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market.    Cry Cry
If even JJG is capitulating, we might be near already.



1466. Post 48498297 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 06, 2018, 04:09:52 PM
Guys, guys... What are you talking about no backup for GA 2FA?

You can fucking write down the "seed", store it in a safe place, and recover from it if needed..

Data are also interchangeable with WinAuth, that does allow you to export the "secrets" (basically the seeds) to a text file or an encrypted archive.



1467. Post 48498329 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: willope on December 06, 2018, 04:11:30 PM
So, when is the $100 000 WO party and where? I pay the subway ticket for the bears.

I am also interested in the answer. Especially the "when" part.



1468. Post 48498537 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: toknormal on December 06, 2018, 04:14:11 PM

Stay sane in times of turbulence with the fair value chart.



...and some consoling empathy from the stockmarkets Wink




How is this fair value calculated?



1469. Post 48498561 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 06, 2018, 06:17:12 PM
Fear is in, down down down it tumbles.

go go go!  Cool

No 'weeeeeee'?  Huh



1470. Post 48505820 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

I'm thinking of cashing out the bcashABC short just to play it safe.

The BTC long is suffering quite badly, but it's been reduced on the way down.
On the other hand, the BTC short - I'm sorry to say - is doing quite fine. Harvesting a little at a time and adding back to the position as soon as it goes up.

TL;DR I wish they did some of that sweet short rekting more often.

Just bought some physical. Keeping a few bullets ready if it goes further south.




1471. Post 48514697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 07, 2018, 01:40:21 PM


You lose smaller on bear market than in bull.

(snip)

Don't give up on your coin so easily.

 Say you had a finite amount of fiat to invest; make it US$30k -
You spend US$30k to get ten US$3k Bitcoin which subsequently drop in value to US$2k Bitcoin - you would be hodling Bitcoin worth US$20k of your initial US$30k investment.
OR you spend US$30k to get two US$15k Bitcoin which subsequently devalue to US$10k Bitcoin - you would be hodling Bitcoin worth US$20k of your initial US$30k investment.

Are you saying you "lose smaller" psychologically or am I so burned out from working night shifts that I am unable to comprehend a bigger picture here?  I can't see the difference.
No difference if you account in fiat. The accounting unit makes the difference. Lucid Homer should know better. Capitulating, are we?  Tongue



1472. Post 48514757 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on December 07, 2018, 09:05:05 AM
why ETH falls stronger than bitcoin? Competitor's problems should be beneficial, not the other way around
Competitor? Which competitor? Ah, ETC, right.

I guess competitor's problems could be beneficial in a closed system - one without inlets and outlets. But ETC's problems weren't too beneficial, I reckon. Therefore, it's not a closed system.



1473. Post 48514938 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 07, 2018, 02:31:08 PM
https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2018/12/bitcoin-finally-presents-perfect-setup-for-a-massive-short-squeeze

Quote from: empowering on December 07, 2018, 02:52:14 PM
Dipping toe for 2nd time this year.. ($3400)

Potentially for a flip on a squeeze

Thanks for the hope, guys. I am waiting for that short squeeze with a giddy heart so I can finally freeze some profit.

Disclaimer: I account in btc. Your definition of "profit" may vary.



1474. Post 48515012 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 07, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
Capitulating, are we?  Tongue

 Never.  Staying on this ride and lining up to buy moar cheap tickets.


I wasn't expecting less from you  Wink



1475. Post 48525244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 07, 2018, 11:23:09 PM
https://www.fastcompany.com/90278112/mastercard-patent-to-make-blockchain-transactions-anonymous
So can we fund Assange via Mastercard now?

Ah. Just what I thought. Never mind.



1476. Post 48525288 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 08, 2018, 12:09:34 AM
Doji on the daily. Closed my short positions. I think we may go up for a few days.
Weekend pump?  Grin



1477. Post 48525419 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: empowering on December 08, 2018, 02:37:13 AM
A thought experiment

........ It rallies to $5350
My long gets cashed out. The short gets a little larger. Not that much without a long covering.


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Then it drops , and smashes through all support to $1150
The short gets cashed out too. I am flat, quite a bit richer and flabbergasted.

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Then the unthinkable happens... and it drops again

to $530.....

Markets are haywire, trading platforms freezing up, going off line, metric sites are spewing out jibberish


On Finex it flashcrashes to $75

Coinbase flashcrashes to $50 and goes offline

The price rises to $750 and stabilises for 6 hours
Still stymied, I'm scrambling to digest what the fuck happened.
My questions on the WO thread remain unanswered, my attempts at a rational discussion submerged in noise and weee's. I consider putting Proudhon on ignore, but eventually decide against it.
I try to buy physical if I get the the time.

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It drops to $350 and becomes stable for a day........... What are you guys doing at this point and up to this point? what is your next move? are you rekt? are you happy, are you trading hand over fist? are you drinking? are you jumping out of a window?
I'm richer and probably a bit greedier. If I have any fiat left, I might buy some more physical, but won't be trading for at least a few days.

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(Bonus question- Bitcoin SV OR Bcash or Ripple or Doge or  ETH or some other shitcoin is simultaneously going parabolic and either Craig or Rog or Vitalik are on youtube shit talking about how they are now number one, what are you doing? did you FOMO SV or Bcash, Doge or ETH or rando shitcoin? or no because rekt, rage quit, drunk etc)
If it's SV going parabolic, my bcashABC short would probably turn into a significant asset. Provided it's still open: I haven't cashed it out yet, but the itch grows stronger every hour.

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Sorry I know its sordid and dark.... but I am curious to your answers  Cheesy  especially if they are amusing
Oops. Amusing. Ehm, sorry, I hadn't read that final word until, uh, the end.



1478. Post 48525437 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 07, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
"A watched coin never barts." - anon WObserver

Likely quoting yourself...
I find that kind of wit delicious, though. If he wasn't one of the most merited peeps on the whole board, I'd gladly throw him one for it.



1479. Post 48536988 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 08, 2018, 02:58:17 PM
I pick up a small bit straight into there.

If they cant smell it no reason to search



Yeah, but does it work? I mean, is that enough to fool a sniffing dog?

I have always wondered if storing bills into vacuumed plastic bags would be enough to fool a sniffing dog. I tend to think it is not enough.

It is enough, if it is airtight and clean on the outside. Your  weed-dirty fingers should never get to touch the exterior of the outermost container.

A practical way to go about it: put the weed in a ziplock bag. Wash your hands with alcohol or oil (something that dissolves the resin). If you use oil, a final soap wash is recommended :-) Similarly wash/wipe the exterior of the ziplock bag. Put it in the outermost container (vitamin bottle or whatever). Wipe/wash the bottle, first with alcohol/oil (for sticky resin particles), then with ordinary soap (for other aroma traces). You're good to go. If it really is airtight, no dog can smell anything now.



1480. Post 48540118 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 08, 2018, 07:49:50 PM
@bitebits ... fork probably not gonna end on the left Roll Eyes

Relax man! I don't think you're supposed to use the fork with your left hand unless you're cutting food and have a knife in the right.



1481. Post 48545345 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: P_Shep on December 08, 2018, 08:11:28 PM
All this doom and gloom, but I'm on for earning nearly 0.1btc today through funding on Bitfinex. So I'm happy enough Smiley
I don't deal with Bitfinex because it feels like too much counterparty risk. But the rent one can get paid is pretty indeed. Sometimes I feel that itch... and I manage to scratch it off.



1482. Post 48545353 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 08, 2018, 10:01:22 PM
WEEEEEEEeeeeeEEeEEeeEEEEEeEEEeE
weeeEEEeEE wEEEEeé WeeeEEeeEeEeE

FINDING BLOCKS? BLEEP BLEEP  Cool

WEEEEEEEeeeeeEEeEEeeEEEEEeEEEeE
weeeEEEeEE wEEEEeé WeeeEEeeEeEeE = GONNA WATCH TV NOW THE GF IS SAYING STOP TALKING WEEEEE ON BITCOINTALK

WEEeee weEeeEeeeeeEEEEE

Uh. Wee wee weeEE. (Don't displease tha babe.)


Quote from: VB1001 on December 08, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
I have returned from dinner and the party starts again.
I lack time to follow the pages of WO, very, very, fast

My wife is worried, she says I've been very strange for four days.

(4 / december first time in WO, lol)

Weee.



1483. Post 48545399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 08, 2018, 10:39:05 PM
I have returned from dinner and the party starts again.
I lack time to follow the pages of WO, very, very, fast

My wife is worried, she says I've been very strange for four days.

(4 / december first time in WO, lol)

Why not open an account for her and talk to each other on here? We can give you marital guidance plus it's a fun memorial for your kids.

It's mo' better than mic's TV anyway. No match.



1484. Post 48545782 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 09, 2018, 12:56:07 AM
trichotomous

Is that a three headed hippo?

Where's your stop profit?

Stopped using them because I always got it wrong.  Instead I chase the price downwards with a scale out of stop losses.  So let the market make the decision.  Its the JJG School of ShortingTM, gradually sell on the way down and then gradually buy on the way back up.
I call it a "negative ladder" made of shorts rather than longs or physical.



1485. Post 48546240 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 08, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
My Christmas wishes re bitcoin in 2019:

1. No ETF. Why? Because institutions are losers who don't give a s-t about bitcoin as an idea. Same for retirees. Watch them scramble to alternative assets once their asses would be on the line due to the downturn.

2. No bakkt. Why? Because bakkt will manifest custodial holding, hopothecation, rehypothetication, same as gold. Garbage! We don't need it. We do not need custodial solution when blockchain is the most secure custodian EVER.

3. No bitmain. I hope that they piss off and/or go bankrupt.

4. Yes 10X, maybe even 100X growth of Lightning.

5. Yes to more people participating in bitcoin.

6. Yes to more self-organization of the bitcoin crowd. We need it to survive potential fiat calamities. Do I want gold? Nope.

I agree with everything but LN. Sorry, but keeping my funds in a hot wallet is not the best security.
You can lock sums as small as you please. Your reward: the coins locked in that hot wallet gain relatively anonymous near-instant mobility.

The issue with LN is making mainchain on and offramps seamlessly cheap and anonymous by clever batching/mixing, which is the easiest (only?) way to quick channel rebalancing. The natural places to do the batching/mixing would be exchanges, but can I trust them? I think third-party sites will take on that job. Sites that could be run by pools of users - a bit like mining pools, but with much lower profit if any.



1486. Post 48553207 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Small bart up without a bart down before it. Unusual. Strong resistance: Bart's hairdresser keeps the scissors floating around 343x.



1487. Post 48553381 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 09, 2018, 08:38:23 AM
trichotomous

Is that a three headed hippo?

Where's your stop profit?

Stopped using them because I always got it wrong.  Instead I chase the price downwards with a scale out of stop losses.  So let the market make the decision.  Its the JJG School of ShortingTM, gradually sell on the way down and then gradually buy on the way back up.

It seems to me that you need your own Hairy Bearie trademark for that variation of incrementalism because it significantly differs from my approach and my thinking (even though practically your approach seems to have decent practicalities)... Anyhow, my incrementalism approach is largely chicken shit about shorting (or using margin).
It's not that different actually. It's just its mirror image, so it incrementally gains you profits as the market trends downwards (not upwards). The profits are prepared on the way up and collected on the way down: the opposite of your own "long" (physical) ladder system, but based on the very same incremental mechanism.



1488. Post 48555322 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Another small spike. Is this going to last all day? When doom?



1489. Post 48555482 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 01:56:07 PM
I prefer shorts REKT smells
I concur.

Know what I miss? I miss those times of excitement and joy where every other day was a new ATH. The rush of watching Bitcoin bounce at each dip and starting to eat every wall in his path to a new ATH. And then the explosion of adrenaline whilst it reached prices never seen before. Yeah, those times were good. And fun. I miss all that.

@bitserve - Those times will be back but this time we’ll be better prepared as in knowing what to sell at what price!

Yup. I don't plan to sell a lot. But I don't want to feel like a complete idiot like this time. That's for sure.
I bet many old schoolers are thinking along the same lines. That's why I believe the next ATH will have different dynamics.

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I may be like the only one that has JUST been slow accumulating since early 2013. Thats nuts, ain't it?
That's as nuts as most hodlers are.



1490. Post 48557676 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 09, 2018, 03:09:27 PM
Sure seems so. 3600~3800 or back down today?

If we go sideways for a long time you'll have your ranges, just possibly not with brutal volatility.

And yeah, trading right now is quite rough. Whenever I stick to my quantitative strategy to the tee it works out smooth. But once I feel like I know what'll happen next and open some smaller trades there I get fucked more often than not; maybe I should just do the opposite whenever I have an urge to try a riskier move - self-contrarian trading so to speak haha.

Either way, just shows how important it is not to bet on one strategy when trading.

"quantitative strategy to the tee" what does that mean?
Figure out different potential scenarios and balance a strategy around all of them simultaneously in proportions that would let me sleep well regardless of what happens. Then let it ride out while refusing to succumb to impulses to re-adjust cause of "omg rally" or "omg dump".

Basically, figure out some prices that you could see happening, then set up individual trades that would profit/lose within a range that you like and then adjust the sum of the events in a way that stays within a band that you're happy with. If done right you're prepared for all eventualities. Basically just very thorough risk management.

Edit: Same shit as balancing a portfolio of stocks and other crap. Just with Bitcoin price targets being the "stocks".
This could be a good summary of my own experience, too. Figure out in advance, place your chips carefully and don't steer continuously or you'll get at least slightly fucked.



1491. Post 48557789 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

By the way, I don't believe the current market move in the slightest. No moon yet, gentlemen. Relax. This is just a longer, slower short squeeze along the way to the final, brutal crevice.

Accordingly - my money where my mouth is - I've closed my short with a small-mid profit (take profit limit just under my entry) and reopened it a bit higher. It's smaller, too, but I'm afraid to make it grow too quickly. An incremental ladder à la (reverse) JJG/JB is better in my experience.

To fellow tactical shorters (I'm thinking HM and others) - LDOH! (that's hodl in reverse).



1492. Post 48558390 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 03:51:53 PM
Almost there
Just for the lulz, where would you place the local top?
Hairy?
I'd say shy of 3.6k or just over 4k, but it's totally SOMA.



1493. Post 48576376 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 10, 2018, 04:19:03 AM
By the way, I don't believe the current market move in the slightest. No moon yet, gentlemen. Relax. This is just a longer, slower short squeeze along the way to the final, brutal crevice.

Accordingly - my money where my mouth is - I've closed my short with a small-mid profit (take profit limit just under my entry) and reopened it a bit higher. It's smaller, too, but I'm afraid to make it grow too quickly. An incremental ladder à la (reverse) JJG/JB is better in my experience.

To fellow tactical shorters (I'm thinking HM and others) - LDOH! (that's hodl in reverse).

Some things do not work in reverse.
They are based on different theories, and differing underlying assumptions.
Well some things actually do work in reverse. All it takes is a reversed perspective (up vs. down).
The same guy who is a long term optimist (bull) might see a downside on the short term and try to either (partially) hedge his holdings or make some profit out of the ongoing trend.



1494. Post 48584939 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

The latest short squeeze was totally half hearted. Come on squeezers, squeeze a little better!!



1495. Post 48588437 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

You're jinxing it   Angry



1496. Post 48597478 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 11, 2018, 10:27:42 AM
PARTICIPATE if you want....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5083242.0

Given the low level of activity here at the moment, maybe GooseGames could even stay in the WO? I'm a bit afraid of going out there! Mh, OK, whatever...

THANKS MIC! Smiley




1497. Post 48599334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Present volume looks like the market is coming to a slow freeze.
Until the next big move?



1498. Post 48601337 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

I've been waiting for a nice little bart for 24 hours more or less.



1499. Post 48602114 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 11, 2018, 03:16:54 PM
waiting for $999 then i buy all your corns Wink weeee

weee 1500 weE
(For non-weers: you insisted on 1500 earlier.)



1500. Post 48603841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

I'm buying physical, small but regular purchases. Have been since a couple of months.

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choo choo wee wee

@bitserve, @kingcolex
He can't be helped. I choose to embrace it. Positivity yields positivity. Wee.



1501. Post 48607766 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 11, 2018, 07:09:07 PM
NUH UH !!! I SAW YOU PUT ON ONE OF YOUR MANY HATS FIRST, SO THEN I PUT MY HAT BACK ON !!!

I take capitulation seriously, brother.
Thank you, Bob.
Jinx removed! ;-)



1502. Post 48609352 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 11, 2018, 09:09:36 PM
OT: Just found the tiniest inverted Bart on the hourly.
Yep. It's still alive.



1503. Post 48609882 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 11, 2018, 10:18:17 PM
if everything has to be balanced (like in a greek tragedy), then this plunge was inevitable.

Comparing with the previous bear (psychological portrait):
I nibbled until $300, then stopped, and btc went to $150 before reversing.
This time around, my last purchase was around $4200. Not planning any current buys.
If history (of my hesitation vs market) repeats itself, then the bottom would be at $2100.
Those who would be buying there (if it happens) would have the ballz of steel.
Or deep pockets... or maybe even just a far-sighted ladder plan Wink



1504. Post 48610375 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Slowly rising on null volume.

There might be a slight step up in 2-3 hours, as it often happens at that time.



1505. Post 48612009 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 12, 2018, 02:03:04 AM
Of course, bought some when the price dropped from $6k to nearly $3k... and buying small amounts during flat periods, too.  Also, have to keeps some dry power, in case there are more drops.
I guess you, too, have some powder you hope you never have to fire.



1506. Post 48626217 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 12, 2018, 04:39:29 PM
i bet we get "martial law" in France before you get it

Est-ce parce que vous avez le Q bordé de nouilles?  Smiley

I bet you get a revolution first as well.
I think they got that first already  Cheesy



1507. Post 48626968 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 12, 2018, 05:47:26 PM
i bet we get "martial law" in France before you get it

 Est-ce parce que vous avez le Q bordé de nouilles?  Smiley


Is it because you have the Q lined with noodles?
What?
"Noodles all around your ass." I believe it's an idiom for "a shameless amount of luck".



1508. Post 48633354 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

An attempt at an alternative explanation, with a final question of my own.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 12, 2018, 11:17:21 PM

Seems to me that you have to buy BTC in order to sell them,

aren't the shorts going to get reckt as some point if people are not willing to sell their BTC and there is not enough BTC to fuel the various contracts that are settled in dollars?

Nope, you don't need to do anything with the underlying (bitcoin) in order to buy/sell futures, which settle in cash (not bitcoin).

I guess that I don't understand then.

I don't see how you can get the price to go down without selling and no one willing to buy at that price, so the price goes lower and lower, until someone is willing to buy BTC at that price.  

Doesn't matter if you are settling in dollars, you still have to sell BTC to get the BTC price do go down and have no buyers.
Indeed, we know the actual volume of futures is small if compared to the underlying (actual btc) market. However, sometimes you only have to nudge things a bit to make them move. Besides, there is leverage, which can make money use more effective.

If you always want to push the same way (for example: down), you will eventually need to recharge; but not as much as the whole market moved (the whole Archimedean buoyant force, so to say) - just a fraction. And you can do it OTC - disturbing the market as little as possible, and deferring/spreading the effect.

One thing I don't understand and I hope someone can help me with: why the asymmetry between shorting and longing? If money on one side (short) implies the same sum is on the other (long), intuition tells me the situation should be symmetrical. Intuition can be wrong, though. So why is it said that whales prefer shorting. Is it easier? Does it pay out better, or what is it?



1509. Post 48633396 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 12, 2018, 11:01:46 PM
Q to WO crowd: do you think that bitcoin does (or doesn't) have some futures fighting mitigation strategy?

Yes.  

You need to understand the distinction between absolute scarcity and relative scarcity.   https://sfugeog322.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/absolute-and-relative-scarcity/

None of the other commodities which are controlled by the futures market have absolute scarcity.  Gold can easily be mined, pigs can be bred, marginal cropping land can grow more corn.

Many of us, including many on this wall, are now dedicated to slowly, gently buying physical all the way down, no matter how deep it goes or for how long. Holders of last resort will create conditions of absolute scarcity.  

The reality is that the poor performance of gold and silver markets is a reflection of poor organic demand for precious metals, combined with elastic supply.  People like Roach blow this up into a global conspiracy so that they can avoid taking responsibility for their own poor investment decisions.  There is undoubtedly short term manipulation in almost all markets, but whales can only push the price in directions that the price already wants to go.  

For the record I do not think that the current downward price pressure on Bitcoin is a manipulation. I think it is a perfectly natural and organic reaction to a blow off top.


There goes my last sMerit.



1510. Post 48633425 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 12, 2018, 09:20:57 PM
There is a theme being propagated on interwebs that bitcoin will never be able to get from under negative price pressure from CME/CBOE futures (which are cash-settled). Apparently, it happened multiple times before with other commodities.

Q to WO crowd: do you think that bitcoin does (or doesn't) have some futures fighting mitigation strategy?

(snip)

I would prefer to think about how we can use intrinsic bitcoin properties to fight CME/CBOE pushing us down (in price).

The question also deserves a (WO)sMerit.



1511. Post 48633506 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 12, 2018, 09:20:57 PM
Q to WO crowd: do you think that bitcoin does (or doesn't) have some futures fighting mitigation strategy?

I would prefer to think about how we can use intrinsic bitcoin properties to fight CME/CBOE pushing us down (in price).
The way I see it, a retail investor or institutional money would likely choose the real thing (settled in kind) over paper stuff that eventually goes bust. Ease of physical delivery is the winning property.



1512. Post 48633586 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 13, 2018, 02:06:44 AM
The way I see it, a retail investor or institutional money would likely choose the real thing (settled in kind) over paper stuff that eventually goes bust. Ease of physical delivery is the winning property.

Sadly as it stands I think it's the opposite.

Like most people here they're only after more dollars
So all it boils down to is adoption? Meaning they're after what is perceived as "real" money.

Quote
There would need to be an army of non traditional finance believers and players to take command of the price via physical options for them to pay attention.
Right, I see. Adoption at least at the financial level.

EDIT
Quote from: bitserve on December 13, 2018, 02:10:07 AM
Hmmm, not so sure about that... Why would they?
OK OK I got it  Undecided



1513. Post 48633660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

For adoption we need either forward-looking merchants or a solid entry into the payment card business. Debit cards seem easier to me, but the most recent events aren't nice at all. As for Shift, it's tied to Coinbase and, at least for the time being, US only. No cigar yet.



1514. Post 48633694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 13, 2018, 02:22:09 AM
For adoption we need either forward-looking merchants or a solid entry into the payment card business. Debt cards seem easier to me, but the most recent events aren't nice at all. As for Shift, it's tied to Coinbase and, at least for the time being, US only. No cigar yet.

darkweb? lol Smiley =drugs , guns & illegal gambling ?
I was thinking more like Amazon. Choo.



1515. Post 48633738 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 13, 2018, 02:24:35 AM
For adoption we need either forward-looking merchants or a solid entry into the payment card business. Debt cards seem easier to me, but the most recent events aren't nice at all. As for Shift, it's tied to Coinbase and, at least for the time being, US only. No cigar yet.

That's a complex issue. Debit cards are for sure something WE want, for many reasons... But I don't think that's the right path towards ADOPTION.
Interested. Care to elaborate?



1516. Post 48649383 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 13, 2018, 03:35:45 PM

Of course, there are edge cases. Some assets will keep climbing for a very long time, others will go to zero. But that's where diversification and value analysis (should) come into play, not succumbing to human psychology.

Make sure you really understand this and don't fall for the trap of "omg why didn't I sell" if we go down further after the fact. The (mathematically) most sensible thing to do is to keep buying in small batches and decide on different price targets at which you will sell. This includes higher prices at which you take some partial profits, as well as a full stop at which you get out of the game entirely. I'm personally riding down to zero if I have to, but for others it might be more sensible to scrape.

Just be aware of how markets function and decide on your strategy before you get into the game, and then take whatever you get without beating up yourself over it. Invest that energy in learning how to do better next time instead of FUDding/FOMOing out/in.

+1 WOsMerit Smiley



1517. Post 48663088 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 13, 2018, 10:14:25 PM
If we had a vote on who the most annoying WO poster is,
I know who I'd choose, though won't mention name, as that would make it gloat.
Because thats its objective... to be  phukking annoying... akin to a mosquito
buzzing around your earlobe and you can't swat the little bastard....
Yes, he's stomping on my balls too. But keep smiling, be kind and the karma will smile back at you. His vocabulary has somewhat expanded a bit already, didn't you notice?  Wink



1518. Post 48663360 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 13, 2018, 11:10:15 PM
I think I am in love with the woman in the Japanese drum video.

It's not love if you were still unzipped from the previous video.
Sometimes I wish I had more.

+1 WOsMerit!



1519. Post 48663662 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 14, 2018, 04:39:04 AM
Will Trace's proofofkeys affect anything one way or another?
I am curious and leaning toward participation.
I think it will. I think we are already seeing fractional Reserve type situations at many of the exchanges. And if people demand to take delivery of their Bitcoin and actually hold their own keys not only could this have an interesting effect on the price. But it would improve the situation as people start using Bitcoin the way it was intended to be used instead of sort of commodity that can be traded on paper.

That was my point when talking about derivatives (future) settled in fiat vs. physical. Old schoolers might be used to paper - and I believe they are, after reading gentlemand's and bitserve's replies - and likely a few others who didn't feel like they needed to chime in since the point had been made already.

My take is: once crypto derivative investors get spoiled by the real deal, they won't be tricked into paper coin anymore - new school or old school alike. And once physically settled derivatives start to be seen more and more, they will drive paper stuff out of the market - or at least eating into their market share.



1520. Post 48663679 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: _javier_ on December 14, 2018, 01:23:57 PM
Samsung to the rescue:

"After hearing about the trademarks for Samsung’s blockchain and cryptocurrency software, we decided to dig around a little deeper. We can confirm that the company is indeed developing one and that it may be launched with the Galaxy S10."

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/12/14/crypto-and-blockchain-smartphones-will-be-the-next-big-thing/

Imagine that and accepting crypto for paying the new phone. We can only dream...  Cheesy Cheesy

With some help from a few phone retailers, this may become a thing. Or half a thing at least. It's all good.



1521. Post 48683228 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 15, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
I have decided to write about what have been my errors during the past bull run and subsequent downtrend till now.

First and foremost, when the time comes take some fucking profits. It doesn't need to be huge and it certainly would vary depending the individual circumstances but take some. It will make you feel better during the bear trend. It may be as low as 5%, 10%.... maybe a bigger amount if you plan to "gamble" on rebuying later in the downtrend.

How do you know when the time has come? Well, hitting a perfect top is just a matter of luck but, hitting somewhere NEAR the top is much more easy:

- You start receiving calls from nocoiners that are now suddenly interested in investing. They usually ask you for advice on what coins are a good buy... because Bitcoin is already too expensive you know....

- Exchanges can't cope with the demand. The trading engines not only lag extremely, but the verification queue for new users are weeks or even months long. Some even stop accepting new users.

- You start to feel that the rise has reached completely ridiculous levels and it should implode.... But since you already thought that a few thousands ago... why would it not keep pumping much more? Yeah, you feel like you are going to be richer than your wildest dreams!

- You start to feel not only as if you did a great investment but as if you had just hit some fucking and totally undeserved big lotto prize.

- You feel that the price has come so much higher than you would have expected (in that short timeframe) that, even when the necessary "correction" comes, the bottom will still be so high that you won't care about not having sold ANY... Because, you know, this time (tm) Bitcoin is so well known and popular that price would not decimate, maybe not even halve (and of course that $10K you never expected to be broken so soon nor so easily will act as an ultimate support in the worst case, yeah!).

I could add more signals of when the top has been reached or is very near, but I guess that's more than enough to get the idea.

This is getting long, so I think I will better be writing this as a series of posts... Some ideas I have in mind about more mistakes I did and how to improve on them are:

- Realising you are in a clear downtrend and what to do during it.
- Hedging with alts during the bullrun, near the top, and on the downtrend. Hedging with stablecoins (ie USDT).
- Managing exchanges and FIAT ramps for profit (diversify risk and get them all ready well in advance)...
- Lending

I am writing this as advice for my future self, but hope it gets useful to someone else. Will continue.

+1 WOsMerit
Always sharp.



1522. Post 48683253 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 15, 2018, 03:11:00 PM
This is getting very, very reminiscent of the last bear market both price trajectory but also our very own WO thread activity. We’re going back to 2015 levels of posting. It’s totally dying in here which is possibly a good sign to tell you the bottom might be in or at least very close.
How very close though? January's almost never been a good month, historically.



1523. Post 48683280 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 15, 2018, 03:14:16 PM
This is getting very, very reminiscent of the last bear market both price trajectory but also our very own WO thread activity. We’re going back to 2015 levels of posting. It’s totally dying in here which is possibly a good sign to tell you the bottom might be in or at least very close.

bottom was @ $420 when i had evil biker gangs telling me btc was a scam... expect sub $1000 soon and hopefully stiff jail sentences for all the scammers (icos&tokens) ...then mabye we bounce\\\///\\/// Smiley weeeeeeeee
With all the wees and the annoying nonsense, there's something to be saved once in a while.

I also think that a few exemplary sentences for obvious scams would be a good thing for mainstream finance adoption. Long overdue.



1524. Post 48686764 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: infofront on December 15, 2018, 06:16:09 PM
yeah man i know, but i'm just not the marrying guy  Undecided

pfff strange flight first to milan out of direction, to then fly to LFC

Don't do it! Marriage is a trap!

Indeed, the transition from gf to wife never, ever, makes a woman any better.
Luckily, I think our friend Mic isn't too eager to lock himself in a cage, however golden it might be.  Wink



1525. Post 48689055 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: stoat on December 15, 2018, 09:55:53 PM
What if the price goes down to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $4000 and then a big crash to $1000 and then back to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $3000 and then to $4000 and then to $3000 again and then down to $2000 and then up to $3000 and then to $1000 and then to $1500 and then $1000 [ETH FLIPS BTC HERE]  and then down to $800 and then $1000 then $900, $800, $700, $600, $500, $400, $300, $200, $100, $50, $10, $1, $0.01, [Delisted from Binance]



My post history is mainly just retarded shilling and trolling.

Judging people by their posting history is a big part of the culture on this website Tongue
We prefer judging people by reading the secrets of their entrails, but unfortunately we don't have access to yours.



1526. Post 48689311 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Adjusting my market positions. I set a take profit limit on the last of my short BCH, and I'm getting out of BTC too as soon as the dust settles. I don't want to spend the holidays looking at candles on a screen. I mean, unless there's a real reason for it  Grin



1527. Post 48700500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Still can't get out of BTC. If the short squeeze really comes about, maybe I can relieve my long a bit before cashing out and come off a little better. Still wait and see mode: a few stops set, but they will need some babysitting.

I'm talking about my play money only, of course. The stash is in the freezer.



1528. Post 48703569 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

By the way, we're having a terrific NY party, and we offer nice welcome perks: open bar for ATH's!
Just in case you're considering...



1529. Post 48705011 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Partially related: how or how much is bitcoin banned in China? I've been told I can pay in bitcoin, but the fees are outrageous: about 70% of the effective amount. The guy there says it's because of the ban.



1530. Post 48705162 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 16, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
Partially related: how or how much is bitcoin banned in China? I've been offered bitcoin payments with outrageous fees, about 70% of the effective amount. The guy there says it's because of the ban.

It's not banned in the slightest. Centralised trading and merchant use certainly has been. Everyone's doing P2P or OTC happily enough as far as I know.

Where's this fee being applied?
It's a merchant. I can pay by bank transfer, which I imagine will be slow and expensive, or by Bitcoin, with a nice 70% surcharge. I feel like I'm being bullshitted with bitcoin, though.



1531. Post 48730650 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 17, 2018, 10:39:10 PM
Well boys, did we just have a small bear trap close and trap those sneaky bears? I haven't seen one of those in quite a while.
I like this. At least, my long got some relief and my short a higher entry point. I hope more relief is coming. My gut tells me we're not done with suffering yet, though. Strictly SOMA, of course.



1532. Post 48730736 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Bitmex has the futures still in backwardation (under spot price), the further the expiry date the lower the price. Still bearish IMO.



1533. Post 48731773 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Which site do you use to estimate optimal bitcoin fees?



1534. Post 48749663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 18, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Observation: While we have established there does not appear to be any discernible price correlation, between mempool size and BTC price, I did notice that the mempool has dramatically inflated over the last two hours.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h

Wormsign.

A shake might be in the works. Which side? I'm bracing for either, by softly ramping out.

This is second order price watching info, as if we were observing walls. Good stuff.

+1 WOsMerit



1535. Post 48750085 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 18, 2018, 11:11:39 PM
Observation: While we have established there does not appear to be any discernible price correlation, between mempool size and BTC price, I did notice that the mempool has dramatically inflated over the last two hours.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h

Wormsign.

A shake might be in the works. Which side? I'm bracing for either, by softly ramping out.

This is second order price watching info, as if we were observing walls. Good stuff.

+1 WOsMerit


It looks like up.
It does. However, a good shake can be like a whiplash, tension on one side and release on the other. I'm not easy.



1536. Post 48750889 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 19, 2018, 12:29:48 AM
Money money mooooneyyy mooooooooooooneyyyaayaya



bwhahaha, you mathafuckaaaa have you already cashed out that nuts long??!

Nope. Keep the green dildo going, boys.

Can you continue to change the "stop loss" price point and keep the long open?
Trailing stops. Many exchanges have them.
They usually command higher fees, but they are handy in circumstances like these.




1537. Post 48751771 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: rolling on December 19, 2018, 02:27:18 AM
We didn’t break it until October 2015 (equivalent of October 2019) last time around.  Breaking it marked the very start of the bull market. 

I'm having a hard time believing the next bull run is going to follow the 2015-2017 cycle. The shorters and panic sellers did a good job of painting the charts to match the last draw down (human nature to find repeating patterns) but I don't think they're going to have as much control over the next rise. The dynamics are different now. When people see the price rise, they're going to think it's 2017 again, not 2015.
I also think the next bull run is going to be different, but in the opposite way. Too many old schoolers have been blind enough not to cash out at or near the last ATH. I think those guys will sell a pretty chunk between 10k and 20k, so a tentative parabolic rise could well stop short of breaking through the roof.



1538. Post 48752019 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

I'm feeling an end of year play that ends with a bitter present.
Did Rosewater come out of that closet yet?



1539. Post 48752025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

This time gentlemand beat me to it  Angry



1540. Post 48752135 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 19, 2018, 03:28:52 AM

Roach?
Wasting all that fine bullion on crockery and cutlery? I think not.



1541. Post 48762505 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 19, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Mornin, thread.  Grin
I congratulate you for your stroke of luck. I understand you don't want to close that crazy long right now: it could indeed make you very rich.

However, I would put a double take profit limit, two orders slightly spaced, or maybe put the "worse" one at market (not limit). You probably know already, but if you choose your order to close on trigger/reduce only, you can input several orders for the same amount, and only one will actually produce effects.

Some redundancy is necessary. The rationale is: don't trust your limits to trigger! Sometimes they don't when the movements are quick. It happened to me a couple of times and I was left in a very tight spot.



1542. Post 48763979 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

BCH pumping up too. It's been on a steady rise the last 2-3 days, but now I see more insistent spikes.

This pump still feels a bit fake to me. Let's give it some time before singing Carolina.



1543. Post 48766141 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 19, 2018, 06:21:20 PM
Well, it looks like everything is going according to the best scenario. Either this was the final drop (which I don't think so) or worst case we can go for a final capitulation FROM a higher price (ie: $4.5K to $3K) in January-March.

I also go for the second scenario because I suspect we haven't been able to accumulate enough at the bottom. Next time many will be prepared for a stronger faster bounce on huge volume.

This is fine.
I agree with bitserve on this one.

By the way, at which time do the CME futures expire?



1544. Post 48771345 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 19, 2018, 10:46:13 PM
i was just surprised when he said how its works in he's company there.... just the part when he said if he doesn't make 10% profit by the end of the month, that he paid from he's savings or previous profits etc
OK, if the previous savings are in multisig+escrow and you own a sufficient fraction of the signatures (half or more). As long as he shows actual possession of his own signatures. By signing a scan of his own passport or something with them.

You don't want the guy ruined though, so hold back on the amounts.

EDIT If he's really up for it, it should be you to warn him in advance if you're a fair player (which I suppose you are).



1545. Post 48771718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 20, 2018, 12:08:08 AM
The school computer room is the only place you can get any piece.
A piece of what, you satyr?



1546. Post 48771846 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Deeyoh on December 19, 2018, 10:50:55 PM
My favorite past time is to watch shorts get liquidated.  Cheesy   There's plenty sitting there ready to be demolished for sure:D

Quote from: itod on December 19, 2018, 11:42:50 PM
Why buy at 3900, when I'll be able to buy at 2900 soon?

I don't know about 2900, but I will be surprised if 3200 is not heavily tested again. We just touched it for a day, that's not how proper bottom looks like. There should be grind, there should be wall, and only then we can jump up from the bottom for good.

Quote from: infofront on December 19, 2018, 07:40:31 PM
Also, I expect volume to drop during the holidays, as usual, which will give the bears an opportunity to resume control.

The poll says sucker rally 57% vs 25% (18% IDK).

There will be rekt shorts, there will be rekt longs. This we all know. The bit that matters to the gambling trader is: which first?



1547. Post 48772181 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

If I knew the answer I'd bet on one side only. I'm hedging the hedges here.



1548. Post 48791305 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 20, 2018, 08:49:42 PM
3855 is my close.... Sad Don't do this to me, bitcocain.
Cash it out and smile man!  Grin Good trading is several good shots and a few bad ones, not a single big hit. And you know already don't you. Maybe as a compromise, you can cut your stake into half as soon as you feel you're green enough to be happy. Set goals in advance and mostly stick to them.

It pays out financially, and not only that - m0glie's got a point.

Quote from: m0gliE on December 20, 2018, 10:08:27 AM
Holding is much more simple than trading IMO.

Health matters too. Hanging there on 80x must be recklessly fatiguing. I know rebalancing several position over time changing price stretches is tedious work. Do you use any automated tools?

Lately, I've been suffering and working on my positions a bit too. A clean exit might be in sight now, if things develop as they appear to be going to. I wish you manage to do the same.



1549. Post 48791764 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Correction? When correction?



1550. Post 48792051 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: kurious on December 20, 2018, 11:11:30 PM
Personally I admired his cajones
Finest percussionist!



1551. Post 48792697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 20, 2018, 11:59:59 PM
Heres a good question for the WO: Who uses automated trading tools and which ones?
I wouldn't trust any bought automated trading tools (not just because of potential backdoors or keyloggers). Selling them implies that whoever made them doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. If the bot was any good it'd only be a matter of time until they'd be filthy rich, so giving others access to it would eat into their profits. Hence, if you can buy it it's fucking garbage.

Don't bother.

If you want one and are rich enough to afford it hire a team of nerds and lawyers. If you're broke, become a nerd yourself and write your own. If you don't like either of these options, just forget it.
I'd like some automation in the form of simple macro commands issued from a GUI or a command line, possibly scriptable. Something like "generate 4 sells spaced uniformly from X to Y, total amount x (btc or usd)", or "re-spread those 4 others over this new range, making them smaller the higher the price".

A glorified Excel, basically, with specific tools to calculate liquidation points and projected P/L. No autonomous behavior except from what I put in ("trigger this buy only if P/L over all positions goes  lower than z$, and only after that order's filled, put this other one in").

The thing might not even have API access to actually place orders; it might simply put the orders in a queue, where they would be hand picked by the human operating it.

I'm pretty sure something like that must exist already, or it should not be that hard to concoct for programmers worth their salt. The most complex issue IMO is designing a workable user interface, graphical or textual.



1552. Post 48793621 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 21, 2018, 02:26:05 AM
60% up in a day? (no not btc ..that other thing)  Oh yeah, that's gonna last. Same old same old...
what a frikkin joke. SMH. No wonder normal peeps laugh at crypto.
I'm out of it already and thankful, but there's this itch mounting...
short it again...
short it again...




1553. Post 48804739 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: m0gliE on December 21, 2018, 03:37:44 PM

$120 is more than enough for a network specially disigned for micropayments.

Main chain will be great for medium to large transactions.

Lightning is for low, micro to sub-Satoshi payments.

I've already seen this a couple of times, how can you go sub-satoshi?  Huh
When you close the channel and go back to the main chain, you're forced to round to whole satoshis of course, but while the funds are in the LN, accounting is in subunits (might be millisatoshis if I'm not wrong).



1554. Post 48804761 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on December 21, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
I never know which one its gonna be Roll Eyes
More than likely both
As long as I get both, I will be happy. Order doesn't matter since I'm not gambling.



1555. Post 48804974 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: birr on December 21, 2018, 04:08:50 PM
On the other hand, if a few big companies, like Starbucks, Facebook, WalMart, Google etc. set up big hubs that everybody connects to with substantial sums, then you can transact large amounts with millions of other LN users.  Is that the kind of Lightning Network we want to see?  So it's a choice.  
1) Be able to transact large amounts with just about anybody on a highly centralized network than can censor your transactions and spy on you.
2) Have a highly distributed and decentralized network with limited transaction amounts.

I think one use case doesn't prevent the other from happening, as long as there is good global diffusion and connectivity.



1556. Post 48807014 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

No pumperino?
But but... the shakes...  Huh



1557. Post 48807245 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 21, 2018, 06:21:04 PM
Dumperino to ~3771 now official. We have broken past the 3923 support. Man am I glad I got out at 4052. If this stretches out we got a cup and handle situation.
I'm glad you got out, too. Such strokes of luck on the average are better harvested when fresh, without trying to milk them to the last drop. It was one of my first and most expensive lessons.



1558. Post 48808566 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 21, 2018, 07:41:28 PM

$120 is more than enough for a network specially disigned for micropayments.

Main chain will be great for medium to large transactions.

Lightning is for low, micro to sub-Satoshi payments.

I've already seen this a couple of times, how can you go sub-satoshi?  Huh
When you close the channel and go back to the main chain, you're forced to round to whole satoshis of course, but while the funds are in the LN, accounting is in subunits (might be millisatoshis if I'm not wrong).
Round up or down? Any way this could create non-existent corn? (Probably not, but sure sounds like it and I'd like to hear why it is not so.)
Smart! I hadn't thought of sub-satoshi rounding error. However, there's no way to create new corn on chain. The block with the channel closing transaction would never validate.



1559. Post 48829740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

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Warning:

Movement HODLERS if you do not have your private keys you do not have Bitcoin, Trace Mayer [Jan / 3➞₿ 🔑∎] want the day January 3 2019 to be an annual celebration to declare the monetary sovereignty with the withdrawal of all the BTC from the exchanges.

Proof of Keys on Jan. 3 Gains Traction

https://twitter.com/TraceMayer/status/1071870548421066753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1071870548421066753&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fethereumworldnews.com%2Fbtc-withdraw-bitcoin-exchanges-proof-of-keys%2F

https://news.bitcoin.com/support-grows-for-bitcoin-proof-of-keys-on-jan-3/

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bitcoins-proof-of-keys-protocol-continues-to-gain-support-honoring-btcs-10th-anniversary-jan-3-%F0%9F%94%91/

If it is fulfilled, it will be a tough Stress Test for exchanges.
The problem may be in exchanges that are not solvent or those that manipulate the books.

What do you think about this?

Will collapse bitcoin transactions if there is an exchange that does not have its bitcoins for the withdrawal of its clients?

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I've thought a bit about it, and I think it is a good concept, although the implementation isn't perfect.

Why good?

- Getting btc out of exchanges is good pricewise: it's likely to "transient enhance" upspikes and dampen downspikes, although the effect tends to zero in the presence of real forces pushing/pulling the price.

- Getting btc out of exchanges is good as a warning or preventive disciplinary action for those exchanges who play with the customers' coin, rehypothecating it or using it for investment without telling them or letting have their fair share. It is also good against other forms of book cooking.

Why implementation not perfect?

People in the know already hold their own keys - well, mostly at least. There won't be many of them who move their funds; not enough tomake a difference IMO. As an example, I do have some coin on a few exchanges, but that's not a significant part of my stash. It is a small part of my play money, and it's good for me to keep it there until I get out of my positions and I move them to the freezer.

On the other hand, people who haven't seen the truth in "not your keys, not your coins" (new coiners but not only!) likely have substantial parts of their funds in an exchange. If they join the Jan 3 Proof of Keys "flash move", it will likely be near the deadline. The sheer number of small transactions is likely to make the mempool go crazy. Do we really want that?

However, if the wave of withdrawals is as sudden as I imagine it could be, it could be even more effective against cheating exchanges, so why not? The mempool will get down to sanity reasonably quickly.

Summing up, as far as I'm concerned the jury's still out on Proof of Keys day.



1560. Post 48831058 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 23, 2018, 12:29:47 AM
It is not if the Bitcoins we hold on exchanges are a significant part of out stash (which should not be for reasons well known) the question is if it will be a significant part of the exchanges stash.

Also and some people here have hinted it (even if backwards)... chain analysis. Yeah, but not of the users but of the exchanges. It will be an exceptional opportunity to clearly identify hot, warm and cold wallets of most exchanges in addition to what we already know. To quantify holdings and, more importantly, to extrapolate the impact on the cold wallets in relation to the average "proof of keys".

I don't know why some people think 3 january is the day they should do the withdrawal, that's crazy, it should be done way ahead. 3 January is the day where everyone wanting to follow should have already been out for the whole day.

Things like this maybe would push exchanges to implement a proof of funds in the way I outlined like one year ago. The fact they are not doing it already, being a very simple process to implement, makes me very suspicious.

For the first time in history we have some asset that can be cryptographically proved to be 100% non fractional and we are not taking advantage of that. Shame.

Sharp as usual. Deserving merit, but for the time being I must work with what I have.

+1 WOsMerit.



1561. Post 48838686 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on December 23, 2018, 04:22:54 AM
Prediction.

Price shoots up over 100k on Jan. 3. But nobody has bitcoins on the exchange to sell. By the time they are back on the exchange the price is back down to the Jan 2 price.

 Cheesy

I think this is the reason why this experiment will have a limited effect. The price is likely to rise somewhat depending on how short exchanges are of BTC. People will be scrambling to put their BTC back on to exchanges to get a bit of the better price action. As a result this will dampen the price rise.
It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
I for one, have already moved all my BTC into cold storage.

That's the kind of short term transient enhancement for upspikes I was referring to in my post - but I don't think it would be that strong.



1562. Post 48852658 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Something's stirring. Rehearsals for a serious shake?



1563. Post 48852735 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Scaredy cat doesn't use up one of his lives...  Wink

I haven't fully got out yet, but I'm as balanced as I can be. My positions are small enough and my liquidations are <1.6k and >45k respectively. Honestly, I'd like my short to get liquidated immediately  Grin



1564. Post 48865340 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on December 24, 2018, 04:20:53 PM
I would advise taking a larger position in Ethereum if you want to see higher gains in the upcoming year.
Thanks for your advice. Now go back to the altcoin forums. Merry Xmas.



1565. Post 48867091 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: nikauforest on December 24, 2018, 08:26:55 PM
But we have to keep in mind this is an overextended run without any significant pullback. Price doesn’t rise in straight lines
So we can expect some kind of reaction at around 4.4k
And if we get to those 5k levels I still expect us to see the yearly lows again

Could be.

However I still think the "real" bottom was around $5500 and we are now slingshotting back to it having oversold due to Craig Wright bag dumping/shenanigans.

Evenyone's waiting for a 2014 type capitulation to today's equivalent of $183, but the difference is that back then it took a couple of weeks to build the ATH with no consolidations on the way. This time it took an entire year and there were plenty of big consolidations during the build up.

Add to that the fact that the alts are now starting to recapitalise in a big way. That was what was needed to confirm the bottom and start a reversal in BTC because BTC cannot grow without massively reduced dominance as a launching pad.




I would argue that the alts recapitalizing is a sign the bottom is not in yet. The alts need to die. When Bitcoin rises and the alts are dying, then the bull market for bitcoin begins. The alts have been a major distraction, most need to die. I have been accumulating Bitcoin in the 3100 -4000 range , but I really don't believe the bottom is in yet.

My SOMA guess, too, is that we need to retest at least the mid 3k's. It ain't over until the fat lady sings.



1566. Post 48867671 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Much too wasted for any coherent typing. I don't get  drunk usually, but today is today. OMG. Happy Christmas everyone, and hodler paradise in 2019. Let's get disgustingly rich everybody.



1567. Post 48868135 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 24, 2018, 10:56:19 PM
Moon? This isn't even the Appalachians yet.

Not yet drunk enough, no mis spellings in there....
\

Cheesy Cheesy
I stopped drinking already... tomorrow I'm due for more...

BTW yesterday I asked for a dark & stormy in one of my favorite bars, and they didn't even know what it was  Angry



1568. Post 48868861 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Xmas whale dances. That was indeed the sound of rehearsals, likely.
Mayor, you're probably more comfortable in your closet for a few more days. Or weeks.



1569. Post 48877281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

The recent boiling of volatility has helped me reduce my positions further without a dent in my profits - actually a slight, insignificant increase. My liquidation price for the short is >70k now, while the long is in danger if the corn dives under $1.3k. Looking forward to closing everything and getting out with another ~7-8% increase in profit. Then it'll be popcorn all the way into the bullrun. Except maybe another tasty BCH short if it pulls its head higher than, say, 0.058-0.06 btc.

Merry Xmas everyone. Going to have another glass Smiley



1570. Post 48877863 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Ohhh gembits! Our mosquito friend!
weee choo choo, choo choo wee. We weee, choo.
(we had some volatility here, now we're mostly drunk and bickering a little.)

Where have you been? In the swamp, by your favorite xmas reed?



1571. Post 48877984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 25, 2018, 02:49:40 PM
Somebody ordered a Wolf of Wall Observer Morty hat

https://i.imgur.com/ns58NSa.jpg

Avatar-sized





awesome one who is it ??

BinaryReign requested it when you posted the train-full of WO hatters Wink

The green candle background is a touch of class! I'd also like a hat with a background running out of bounds one day... maybe when I become a hero! Smiley



1572. Post 48878262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 25, 2018, 02:50:11 PM
yeah i let bitcoin run for a minute...  Cool  #swampthang going for the green! Wink

Hmm thanks but don't hover too close to the corn, lest she gets annoyed and swats you! Well, not on Xmas day anyway.



1573. Post 48878410 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

pumperinos nearly undone. Are we in for some more rollercoaster time until end of year? I'd guess we are.



1574. Post 48878644 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 25, 2018, 03:30:27 PM
giving you my last Smerit... you have enough activity and should be HERO long time already .... this man deserve some merit
have a fine X-mass

(normally i only try to send my last Smerit when i'm F***ed up drunk, its became a thing Roll Eyes but i can still feel some of the wines of last evening)

The Goose's last sMerit is an honor! Cheesy  Thank you my friend!

@gembitz
I think Mic and I are the only ones who occasionally translate things in weetalk for you  Wink



1575. Post 48885382 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Teasing moves bewitch
Gentle volatility
Corn is a female



1576. Post 48885442 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: rolling on December 26, 2018, 12:24:36 AM
When btc gets a dump, and the same microsecond the alts get a dump as well, it cannot be people being greedy/fearful, right? it must be a coupling in some form to the mastercoin, btc?

It's arbitrage bots.

When BTC dumps, there is an instant discrepancy in the alt trading pairs like BTC/ETH and then USD/ETH and in turn ETH/XRP etc, etc. The bots can scalp a nice profit by balancing out the ratios but there is not as much liquidity in the alt market so the moves are larger either up or down.



The WO thread still manages to deliver advanced on-topic wisdom. On Christmas night, mixed with banter and greetings.



1577. Post 48898240 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 26, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
Even in a Crypto Winter, Venture Capitalists Are Thriving

While ICO funding has almost trickled to zero and some seem to be cautiously stepping away from the industry during this persistent bear market, venture capitalists (VCs) are taking their place, making the most of the opportunity to invest in promising blockchain projects before the fold. We may be facing the prospect of a crypto winter, but it’s a renaissance moment for VCs in blockchain.

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/even-in-a-crypto-winter-venture-capitalists-are-thriving-cm1074203

Pre-launch marketing for their soon-to-come listings?  Tongue



1578. Post 48899883 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 26, 2018, 07:07:34 PM

Surely.

There is nothing better at the moment, apart from Bakkt ETF.

But I like this:

"While many believe that the only way to achieve this is the value of investment in the institutional market, others, such as Stephen Pair, CEO of Bitpay, believe that a more user-oriented approach to the adoption of bitcoins can achieve the same objective."

The two forms are good, one situation attracts the other, that is the correct thing, to advance in the adoption.
Indeed. I think we'll see the real deal when Joe Average is able to use his coin on Amazon and such.



1579. Post 48901265 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 26, 2018, 09:33:58 PM
Came across this Boltzmann metrics.  Still trying to work out what it all  means.

https://boltzmann.io/metrics
was cited here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg48575110#msg48575110 but i am still flummoxed/cbb
The fact they don't care to define the quantities they say they measure could also mean something. I don't know what to make of it anyway.



1580. Post 48901340 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 26, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
I think some people are just waiting to see what the market is going to do before buying.  They will eventually decide it is not going down any more and then jump in and another rally will begin.  Or someone will dump and they will jump in and then keep the price at about the level it is at now.  I think the fact that we have seen a few dumps already without affecting the price too drastically is really bullish and shows there is some great support

Traditionally bitcoin dumps in Q1.
So personally I'm expecting that last v shaped super dump to come in January or February, and then we will finally be done with this shitshow. A couple of slow but accelerating years are coming.
Exactly my thoughts, possibly with a slow tail shorter than 2 years. Except, she likes to do just the opposite of whatever we're expecting if she feels she's being taken for granted. So what do we know?



1581. Post 48901961 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Indeed, the Dow-Jones grew nearly 5% today. Is that Trump doing it, or does he wait for the PPT to give him the go ahead?



1582. Post 48903119 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 27, 2018, 01:18:48 AM
Craight Wright is unable to fork my physical silver.
He might be unable to, but plenty of people can. My Christmas dinner was eaten using silver forks.



1583. Post 48935049 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Need to see it get a bit bigger on the daily



1584. Post 48938757 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on December 28, 2018, 11:07:25 PM
That was the dip. Now we rip up.
A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.
It might be even worse than that, actually.



1585. Post 48938787 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 28, 2018, 11:15:37 PM


franky vs maxwell is getting q entertaining

...I think I've made more than a fair effort in correcting these misunderstandings. I hope someone else will pick up the torch before the posters[sic] persistence spreads the misunderstanding further and perhaps ultimately demoralizes the developers to the point where we give up on this completely uncompensated voluntary work improving the protocol.
The most interesting bit is the bitch in the background filming the whole scene - as if one video operator wasn't enough.



1586. Post 48947966 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on December 29, 2018, 12:39:20 PM
To describe how the block size limit affects the speed and cost of transactions on the blockchain, let us use the following example:

(snip simple and correct explanation)

(snip fake data and numbers)

(snip shameless bcash plug)

https://www.shitcoin.com/info/what-is-bcash

So, anything goes as long as it isn't the real thing?

JJG is on vacation, so someone has to fill the gap. Sorry for the meager number of words in my reply.

Get the fuck out of here with your pushing every conceivable shitcoin there is. We don't give a ratt's ass.



1587. Post 48948586 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on December 29, 2018, 02:11:20 PM
they want to know how you will react when Bitcoin reaches 100k and beyond

^Yes, we all know people who claim bitcoin is *guaranteed* to go to "$100k and beyond" are not scammers at all.  Meanwhile, people that probably own more shitcoins than anyone in this thread don't even believe in it at all lol:




Peter is not part of the group of wealthy Jews financing my team and your experiments Virgin Roach. They have far more coins than him. They also have access to time travel tech and so yes, we have seen the future and thats how we know about you eating Gembitz's ass in Vegas, 100k Bitcoins, and much more. You think quantum immortality is a Bog meme, but its actually a real thing and you will be one of the first to receive the chip so my team can experiment on you forever. You think you know about the Jews and their plans, but its so much deeper than you could ever imagine. Dont forget to return your mommys Bitcoin panties to the proper drawer.
I suppose the 50-80% chance of bitcoin going to zero could be due to PayPal or WhatsApp/Telegram tokens taking over?



1588. Post 48950573 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on December 29, 2018, 04:00:25 PM
rudeness is a sign of the opponent's rightness. Answer the question: how will you solve the problem of expensive commissions when the price of bitcoin rises?
will you pay $ 1000 for the transfer or mounth stand in line for $ 100?

L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

How did bcash plan to solve the problem? With a larger highway? It's a non solution, bloating the blockchain linearly with the number*size (not the monetary amount) of transactions. This would have made it impossible to keep bitcoin alive on user-maintained full nodes.

And what about eth? It's never been a solution to that problem. It's a proprietary token, with the master doing as he pleases and considering switching to PoS just to be sure. Sod immutability and distributed ledgers.

But I guess many WO'ers have told you these things already. You're just being blind, or deaf, or both.

(Rudeness might also be a sign of weariness after reading so many mindless repetitions.)



1589. Post 48953687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

We've had this discussion already, haven't we.

Quote from: jbreher on December 29, 2018, 05:16:06 PM
L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

Massive adoption cannot happen -- LN cannot onboard more than the population of one small city per day, due to the anemic BTC block weight. How many millions will it take to reach 'massive adoption'? Multiple thousands.

Several solutions are being developed to batch the opening of multiple channels in one transaction. Some solutions are ready to deploy, some others are still in earlier stages. Some depend on Schnorr signatures, some don't. Next significant problem is channel balancing. I am not up to date on this yet.


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How did bcash plan to solve the problem? With a larger highway? It's a non solution, bloating the blockchain linearly with the number*size (not the monetary amount) of transactions. This would have made it impossible to keep bitcoin alive on user-maintained full nodes.

Bald assertion devoid of supporting evidence.
As to blockchain bloat, not much evidence's needed at all. It's simple arithmetic. As to the impossiblity (or extreme unease) of keeping a full node*, it's just a tad less simple to work out the mass storage and bandwidth required. An empirical proof might be found in the statistics about bcash nodes that are active.


* Inb4: it's "a non-mining node that maintains the full, unpruned blockchain" in bigblocker's alternative lingo. The same jagon where "Satoshi's original vision" means some other coin.



1590. Post 48954149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 29, 2018, 08:36:08 PM
L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

Massive adoption cannot happen -- LN cannot onboard more than the population of one small city per day, due to the anemic BTC block weight. How many millions will it take to reach 'massive adoption'? Multiple thousands.


First of all, ~200K/day is still more than ALL current btc users in just 6mo.

I was responding directly to the 'massive adoption' challenge. Demonstrably, LN is incapable of onboarding 'massive adoption' due to the fact that the hard cap on blocksize is a hard cap on the number of people that can open a channel per unit time.
... unless you batch the operations. Which is already possible, although not yet deployed.

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Second, there are/will be technical solutions as we progress.
We really don't need technical whizbangery when simple block size increase suffices.
We really don't need technical whizbangery when simple fiat money suffices.




1591. Post 48969854 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 30, 2018, 03:38:54 PM
arriving @holland my friends place.... ready for session 2
common Micg be little bit more lucky as last time

I bet you're going to get back to your hodlcave with more sweet corn to hodl  Wink



1592. Post 48975910 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: kurious on December 30, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Hey Jbear I got a great deal for you (limited time offer).  

If you swap all of your remaining Bitcoin for SV you will immediately get a 45x return.  And that’s not all, you will have the satisfaction of devoting your financial resources to the network that represents Satoshi’s VisionTM.  How amazing is that?

It would be the strongest endorsement you could give, and an opportunity to show us minimalists the way.

I am sure he will, I mean he is a man of principle.
He won't. In this case, principal overrides principle.



1593. Post 48976537 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 30, 2018, 11:03:13 PM
Recruitment ads showing up when bitcoiners watch youtube videos (without adblockers wtf?)

"you're sharp, quick to notice what others don't notice at all, complex situations challenge you, you find information that no one knew existed in places no one thought to look, but this isn't enough for you, you need to make sure it [not sure what that refers to] happens, to lead. we know, that's what you're like. starting tomorrow you can accomplish more with this [these skills]. much more! the mossad is recruiting"
"you've got it all, intelligence, talent, charisma, and charm. when they tell you something is impossible, you make it possible [transliteration, "the most possible", which is slang]. want to get further with this [again, these attributes]? so let's talk about fascinating places, meetings after which everything will appear to have changed, about people who think they know when in actuality they didn't know at all. interesting, isn't it? the mossad is recruiting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaETj2sbc7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_KfRWtj8o

next year in Jersulaem any one?

Do they check your peepee before actually hiring you?



1594. Post 48978023 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 31, 2018, 02:19:43 AM
Still busy its becoming a monster session

Won back my btc amount of last time “exactly the same”
Good. A clean slate for the next rounds. Time for the hodlcave already? Wink



1595. Post 48985663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

I'm playing my endgame, closing all my positions as gracefully as I can before I get too drunk. When I'm done, I expect 30-35% on my play money, which will all go into the freezer for the Jan 3 action. Nice end of year. Happy 2019 everybody.



1596. Post 48985927 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: itod on December 31, 2018, 03:29:27 PM
I'm playing my endgame, closing all my positions as gracefully as I can before I get too drunk. When I'm done, I expect 30-35% on my play money, which will all go into the freezer for the Jan 3 action. Nice end of year. Happy 2019 everybody.

Why do you think there will be some action on Jan 3rd?
I just mean I'll get them off the exchange. Jan 3rd is "Not my keys, not my bitcoin" day, just that.



1597. Post 48986180 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on December 31, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Bakkt confirmed today it will push back launch of its bitcoin futures from Jan 24 to "early 2019." Looks like the bear market will last longer. Hopefully they launch by 2020.


https://www.theice.com/publicdocs/futures_us/exchange_notices/ICE_Futures_US-Notice_BitcoinLaunch20181231.pdf

182.5 M$ not enough?
If those funds were already auditable, it would make some joyful noise for all crypto-enthusiasts.
At any rate, they accumulate - we should too.
Happy hoarding everybody  Cool



1598. Post 48987198 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Last iteration yielded over 30% gain on my play money.

All closed now, and my heart is light as a feather.

Some call you a slut, but you've always been a good lady to me.
Thank you, bitcoin!
<3



1599. Post 48988857 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 31, 2018, 05:46:27 PM
Last iteration yielded over 30% gain on my play money.

All closed now, and my heart is light as a feather.

Some call you a slut, but you've always been a good lady to me.
Thank you, bitcoin!
<3

30% ?  For the year's trading activities?
That's just the last iteration. When play money doubles - more or less - I put the excess in the fridge. I made ~220% this year (a doubling, a near doubling, and the final cherry on the cake). It all began as a hedging short when the mammoths spoke to me, then I got carried away.



1600. Post 48988884 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on December 31, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
I felt the need to start doing some end of the year compilations. Here is a look at the first year distributions of WOsMerit's. If you feel there are errors in the chain analysis feel free to post your correction or PM me. Let it be noted these are only WOsM's that I personally issued, if you have issued any the same rules apply as above. Submit for verification and they will be added to the chain asap.

Code:
2018 WOsMerit distribution
Genesis Block created on January 26th 2018, 8:12pm pst


user                plus         minus
-----------------------------------------
community airdrops -  149          1

cofefeGandalf -         1
HairyMaclairy -         2           1
criptix  -              1
Last of the V8s -       23
explorer  -             1
Torque   -              13
Ibain   -               4
Ivor Biggun  -          2
JayJaunGee   -          21
xhomerx    -            13
lodse   -                           1
mfort312   -            28
Sitarow   -             10
infofront   -           105
fragout  -              1
JimboToronto  -         32
BlindMayorBitcorn  -    6
Icygreen  -             3
jojo69   -              11           1
Phil_S   -              6
Paashaas  -             10
koryu -                 1
bitserve  -             50
MNDan  -                1
d_eddie  -              22
BobLawblaw  -           27           1
TERA2   -               5
bitcoinPsycho  -        1
ErisDiscordia   -       10
anhzaibro -             2
marcus_of_augustus -    3
mike4001  -             10
dmwardjr  -             2
Biro Bob  -             1
cAPSLOCK  -             3
undeadbitcoiner  -      1
Agapios -               1
Vlada69 -               1
samson -                1
Arriemoller  -          2
Rosewater Foundation -  2
Biodom  -               1
anon123  -              4
micgoossens  -          23
vroom -                 1
kurious  -              1
fabiorem  -             1
SEC  -                  1
C. Giancarlo  -         1
Raja_MBZ  -             2
exstasie  -             2
BitcoinNewsMagazine -   1
jmcorgan   -            10
theymos   -             1
ssmc2  -                1
4rt3m  -                1
toknormal   -           1
mindrust  -             1
Majormax  -             1
STT  -                  1
kingcolex  -            1
kenzawak  -             1
FractalUniverse  -      1
VB1001  -               1
bitmover  -             10
luckyenough56 -         1
Wekkel  -               1

One more and you hero. Come on someone... Mic maybe?
You deserve at least hero status, if only for the concept ot WOsMerit!

EDIT Oops... the activity... you'll have to wait a few days more Wink



1601. Post 48988906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Half drunk already. Hm, actually a bit over half. In a short time I'll be jamming with a few close friends, and I bet we will exceed the 100% drunk mark.



1602. Post 48989753 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 31, 2018, 10:26:47 PM

Mammoths?   

You mean large land creatures that resemble whales, but they are not whales?  Or something else?

Mammoth patterns belong in SOMA analysis 101.

(Do they REALLY resemble whales?)



1603. Post 48994750 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: DeathAngel on January 01, 2019, 11:48:06 AM
Now that sounds like the perfect 2019 Cheesy
Realistically though I see $8,000 - $10,000 as the high for 2019, love to be proved wrong tgough.
Well it depends on which side you're proven wrong, doesn't it.



1604. Post 48999770 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 01, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
are we all waiting for jan 3rd proof of keys ? Market is boring as hell

Some exchanges will probably block withdrawals.
It will be interesting to see which ones.

EDIT : Hitbtc seems to be one them.
A good reason to ditch them.



1605. Post 49000562 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 01, 2019, 08:28:23 PM
I see you guys are extremely ARMCHAIR picky. I bet you are not the same IRL.

And, yes, somehow manly face... and the boobs are smallish, it's the perspective.
As long as she keeps that perspective during the action, I'm all for it.



1606. Post 49000580 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 01, 2019, 08:41:37 PM


11. Dips



1607. Post 49018651 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 02, 2019, 10:57:54 PM
So what will people be doing at 18.15 GMT tomorrow, the exact moment of birth?

I might bail out a bank.

With Doge.

I think I will bail out my alma mater.



1608. Post 49018847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 02, 2019, 11:51:41 PM
motherfucker

you guys seeing the legacy FX pairs?




What does it mean? I mean, why? Doesn't Japan have one of the highest debt ratio?
They do, but most of it is in Japanese hands, not Chinese.



1609. Post 49049926 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Old sideways going on, with quick small minibarts and debarts.
I just started a new trading strategy with my play money.
It should be low profit, but low maintainance as well.
I'm waiting to see how it pays out.



1610. Post 49052211 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

... with a few bad ones once in a while for a change Wink



1611. Post 49052395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 04, 2019, 09:28:22 PM
Old sideways going on, with quick small minibarts and debarts.
I just started a new trading strategy with my play money.
It should be low profit, but low maintainance as well.
I'm waiting to see how it pays out.

Scalping?
The way understand scalping, maintenance is not that low.

I'm trying a small ladder on the long side and one on the short side, but I don't let them slip overboard: I set up the positions to close as soon as they get at the first profiting step on their respective side.

Price increments of 100$ seem to be a little too coarse for the current market movements. Maybe I should try 50$, although it requires a bit more work.

What I hope to achieve: locking in any profit on both the long and short side, as soon as it materializes. Keeping the positions small enough to be safely underleveraged. I aim at liquidation prices around 150-200$ for the long side and 40k+ for the short side. What I have achieved in 2 days: some change (0.3%) with minimal fuss. With 50$ increments I would have made approximately 3x as much, so in the 1% ballpark. I plan to move profits to cold storage as soon as they exceed, say, 10%.



1612. Post 49062230 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 05, 2019, 01:35:59 AM
Try tracking a 50-channel DAW session at 24-bit/96kHz though top-flight conversion (e.g., Apogee), with all the plugins needed for a good mix, on your Androne, and let me know how it goes.

why would you bother doing that on a phone. i would think at that point you would have easy access to dedicated equipment.

Took the words out of my mouth. Any real computing, I do on a real Win7 Laptop (HP Probook450 with i7-6500U, 16gbDDR3, 500GB M-2 MVMe boot SSD, additional 1tb sata storage SSD,etc). Runs circles around any silly little phone.
And, I add, recording a 50-track session with several plugins inserted isn't even a task I would trust to a laptop, unless it was just a fun thing. 50 channels of Apogee and you don't have a dedicated desktop machine? Come on.

By the way, do you need all those plugins just to track? How about the latency?



1613. Post 49064359 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

One more haiku

Roach making noises
Best thread is getting boring
Long sideways market



1614. Post 49071390 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Thanks for the merits, dear sirs. Much appreciated Smiley



1615. Post 49071511 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 05, 2019, 10:44:51 PM
And as a single anecdotal data point, I steadfastly resisted iOS, waiting for years for Android to solve their audio latency issues. I finally gave up. Maybe today, you can run music apps such as soft synths, DAWs, drum machines, etc. on Android. Back when I made the switch, the unbounded variable latency made it impossible on Android, no matter the manufacturer.

For all I know, you still can't, at least with the stock OS. It simply wasn't designed with realtime in mind. I think there was some experimental kernel that supposedly took care of that, but I never checked it out.

However, I use my phone mostly for... uh, calls and some texts. And I much prefer hardware than obeys to me first, and to its maker second. With Apple it always feels like it's the other way around.

Quote from: kurious on January 05, 2019, 10:35:17 PM
Agreed, you never use plugins to record, only to mix.  If you record with them, you can't undo it.  Plug-ins are purely for the mix / post-production.

And if the pre-amp/ mics are good, a laptop is perfectly fine for tracking excellent audio, I would not think twice - the data rate is minimal. The room is far more important than the computer it's tracked on.  As for 96K? Why bother? It makes it way more cumbersome (at least 4 times the file size), but IMHO is pointless since no one can hear the difference. Except maybe dogs.

One exception about plugins: a zero-latency reverb if the singer needs it to feel comfortable and you're going 100% ITB.

I have some mistrust for laptops, but maybe it's just me. 50 simultaneous tracks at 96k... it just doesn't feel right.

And I agree, the room is the first issue. Take care of that, and only then think about boutique mics, preamps or converters.



1616. Post 49071562 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Wow guys now you're pushing it too much. I feel embarrassed Smiley



1617. Post 49081782 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

WOW! I come back here and find myself a hero. Merits from all over the place, including a hefty bump from The Goose and a terrific one from The Queen herself. I am dizzy with all the love I got. Thank you guys!

Quote from: gentlemand on January 06, 2019, 02:01:58 AM
d_eddie, I was born to make you happy.

Just like Britney.

I'm quite happy indeed. As long as you don't touch me with those filthy hands, still crusty from unnamable filth... Tongue




1618. Post 49083015 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Update from my personal point of view in these sideways days.

I lowered the step size to 50$. As a result, not much has changed in my executed trades, only that the two ladders balanced more closely: at the moment the positions are exactly the same size. I like them to be balanced, because closing them at market leaves me more or less where I am. The long ladder is the only one that gave me some fruits. Current cashed out profits at 0.05%.



1619. Post 49088219 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: bones261 on January 06, 2019, 06:38:17 PM
Out of merits now
Merit sources where art thou
I need more merits

Mmmm bones didn’t you had a double upgrade of stashes  Tongue  Tongue

Tried to make a haiku of it ....
But still need to try better cause still not getting it
Next one must be spot on before posting

My well of source merits is overflowing at the moment. However, I have to guard against being too generous and carefree. Don't want to see a bunch of sour grapes bitching showing up in Meta and reputation boards about my meriting behavior.  Roll Eyes
Goose is still wining
and dining his fair lady,
whiners keep whining.



1620. Post 49088236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 06, 2019, 06:27:37 PM
Bob's penis is green,
And Jimbo's going down South.
Bullish or bearish?

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 06, 2019, 06:20:36 PM
Out of merits now
Merit sources where art thou
I need more merits

My favorites in the last bunch Smiley

EDIT: and this! Nearly escaped me.

Quote from: Biodom on January 06, 2019, 06:40:47 PM
Allow me a potentially controversial statement:

The cryptoqueen
Bringing balance to the group
We need more females



1621. Post 49088388 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: infofront on January 06, 2019, 06:46:02 PM
Passive Mod Mode: Off
Trolls will not be allowed to completely derail the thread.

I guess there are better things to do in the holiday season, or in winter weekends, or in weekends or weekdays or whenever, but thank you for a usually thankless job, felt more than noticed by most (including me).



1622. Post 49088561 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 06, 2019, 07:02:21 PM
Allow me a potentially controversial statement:
The cryptoqueen
Bringing balance to the group
We need more females

4 / 7 / 5 is not a thing, brother  Wink

Well the original Japanese form has 7/5/7 moras, not syllables. A long syllable counts as 2 moras, so it could be argued, in principle, that 'queen' is 2... but then 'need' would be 2, too. No way to save that, sorry  Grin



1623. Post 49093436 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

In Toxic's wake, some commentary on my arrears - 6 pages to catch up for just a few hours! - but with real sM for a change: I got plenty after all the love.

Quote from: Cryptoqueeen on January 06, 2019, 10:31:18 PM
Bcash clearly scam
Ver's hard fork failure from start
Be safe buy Bitcoin

An attractive young lady who can write bitcoin poetry and happens to be a hodler. I don't think I know anyone like that in RL. The WOT is improving. (No hetero)

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 06, 2019, 11:39:22 PM

Your old friend Jimbo may think
He's so great that his shit doesn't stink,
But the stench of his balls
Peels the paint off the walls
And leaves a brown stain in the sink.

 Cool

Smiley Deliciously tasteless. Better than the pansy from Khartoum IMO.


Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 07, 2019, 12:05:42 AM
2 of my favourites:

There once was an X from place B,
Who satisfied predicate P,
The X did thing A,
In a specified way,
Resulting in circumstance C. (anon)
~~~
There was an old man
from Peru, whose lim’ricks all
look’d like haiku — he

said with a laugh, “I
cut them in half, the pay is
much better for two.”
–Emmet O’Brien

also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-joke

Two treats! New for me. As good and timely a find as usual.





1624. Post 49093490 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

I was tickled by V8's post on meta-limericks and meta-haikus.

First, five syllables
the middle line has seven
and five more to end.


Trying to elicit tears from one OG.

Quote from: gentlemand on January 06, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
Am I allowed to say out loud that I think the Haiku form is shit and pointless? Though full marks for creativity.

They do not speak to me in any way whatsoever. I presume if one is steeped in Bushido it moves one to tears.

Most people here have limericks in their DNA, most of which have 'Nantucket' in there somewhere.

A pervert called gentlemand
had limericks mixed into his tea
he peeked in the cup
and peed, and threw up
and I didn't mention Nantucket.



1625. Post 49093615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on January 07, 2019, 04:10:04 AM
Actually a little worried about Virgin Roach. He hasn't eaten any cookies mummy has brought him all day. This bull market is gonna be really hard on him.
Don't wake sleeping dogs now, please. Infofront's just done with his chore, do we want dogshit all over the place again so soon?



1626. Post 49116814 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: DeathAngel on January 08, 2019, 11:31:30 AM
Jihan will probably hang himself by the end of the year

My guess is he will probably be helped, but it won't look as if he was.



1627. Post 49117939 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 08, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Jihan will probably hang himself by the end of the year

My guess is he will probably be helped, but it won't look as if he was.

If Mark Karpeles can evaporate millions in stranger drug money and stroll around just fine, I don't see why anyone would bother with a small and annoying Chinese fella.
I think Jihan has more associates to answer to, including hard to please people tied to the government. Karpeles probably paid his dues to the heavy partners, but can Jihan do the same?



1628. Post 49133832 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on January 08, 2019, 07:48:49 PM
I "mined" most of my bitcoin playing poker...  I was inspired years ago to write this about the tables at Seals with Clubs:

Flopped a straight!  ALL IN!
Call, Call, Call, Fold, Call, Call, Call
Beaten by a flush...
Hadn't noticed that. Pretty focused, rhytmic, conversational. Liked it a lot!



1629. Post 49135913 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 08, 2019, 08:27:06 PM
Who even are these wanks?



The-young-millionaire ,speak for itself isn’t it

Keep hodling and in a few years it could be

The-middleaged-billionaire

Also yeah, i see what you mean ..... there CAN ONLY BE 1 BOB

What do the numbers mean? I don't recognize that page.



1630. Post 49137154 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

@kenzawak - Now I see... thank you!



1631. Post 49137519 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on January 09, 2019, 02:44:55 PM
r0achie, fork off here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094269.msg49137054#msg49137054
Or he could try sending a message to Trisolaris.



1632. Post 49159871 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 10, 2019, 08:01:31 AM

Duck! Sophon incoming!
Quack quack!



1633. Post 49159920 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Double ladder all closed. The short side also brought some fruits - 0.8% total. Taking a little pause now.



1634. Post 49160236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 10, 2019, 04:56:28 PM
Bitmain and company their BTC?

https://bitcoinist.com/bitmain-fire-ceo-jihan-wu-bitcoin-cash/
The linked article itself contains no new info. It's old news. I still think Jihan's in trouble, though. I wou't be surprised if he has an unexpected accident some time soon.



1635. Post 49170219 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 11, 2019, 01:10:00 AM

Hmm. Now you've lost me.

'Course it's been a while since I read the trilogy.
I was acting out the "Duck" part.



1636. Post 49192330 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 12, 2019, 12:14:41 AM
I get (and like) everything about bitcoin with one point that is not clear to me: is credit possible in btc-based financial system?
If yes, then how? If no, it could be a limitation, albeit most people might think that this is a feature.

I enjoy short term zero % credit (as i pay my bills in full every credit card cycle).
I fully understand that it is a gimmick and most people don't do that and accumulate debt, although my personal interest payment is -1.5% (1.5% reward and NO interest).
How bitcoin can/will fight this?
I'm afraid it's a structural problem. Lending requires trust, which is usually provided by "reliable" parties - our friends the banks. A trustless system such as bitcoin makes it hard to implement such an arrangement, unless the collateral is tokenizable too.

Quote
I would be happy to lend my btc (on a monthly basis) to a reliable party (if there is such a thing in btc world) and get back 2-3% interest on a yearly basis, but only if interest is in btc and not fiat.
IMHO, btc lending needs to be established and sooner rather than later.

I would have liked to do that too, but when I searched a bit, the only option I found were some exchanges lending out your btc as margin for other users, which required quite a bit of trust - counterparty risk compounded into squared counterparty risk!



1637. Post 49194487 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 12, 2019, 03:12:15 PM
Bitwise Bitcoin ETF Trust IPO Filing on NASDAQ

https://www.nasdaq.com/markets/ipos/filing.ashx?filingid=13149338



Without going through the whole shebang, it's not even easy to tell if it's supposed to be settled in kind or not.



1638. Post 49198183 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: Torque on January 12, 2019, 04:17:03 PM
Try "transacting" in gold or silver across the world for a good or service. Tally up all the usury 'middle men' fees for courier services, vault storage fees, customs fees, armored car services, boat, plane, armed guards, whatever. WELL over $1000+ for a single transaction, even way higher depending on the amount of PM $$$ involved. MANY people are profiting off of your transaction and getting rich. And many points along the path to destination where your PMs can go "missing".

Do you even listen to your own deluded bullshit you spew, r0ach?


Quote from: bitserve on January 12, 2019, 05:02:15 PM
And what about the spread of PM's.... you buy some gold/silver today and you sell it tomorrow to someone else losing like 20%. And that is in ideal circumstances. WTF?!

I like PM's, they did fill some niche in the recent past, but I don't see them in the future at all or maybe just as a way smaller niche.


Quote from: El duderino_ on January 12, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
if I have a printed code.... with the exact amount of BTC on it
then I could transact just as easy as you with your coin in your hand
.....

All your replies make lots of sense, gentlemen, and we all know they do. Only, the person you address doesn't, or won't ever admit it. What's the use of engaging him on old matters, with old (and valid, I repeat) arguments? We know what comes after that. Rent-seeking validators, joos, decentralization impossible in principle, more ranting. Blacks. Women. Dogs. Spinach. Ok, not dogs and spinach maybe (yet), but you get my point don't you?



1639. Post 49213141 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Not sure who linked this series of articles first (I think Part 2 was the first to be mentioned here), but here are all four of them.

I agree with Hairy, this is a very good read that could give you a new angle to look at things from. Written thoughtfully by someone who has seen it happen from the inside.

https://medium.com/@simonhmorris/why-bittorrent-mattered-bittorrent-lessons-for-crypto-1-of-4-fa3c6fcef488
https://medium.com/@simonhmorris/if-youre-not-breaking-rules-you-re-doing-it-wrong-bittorrent-lessons-for-crypto-2-of-4-72c68227fe69
https://medium.com/@simonhmorris/intent-complexity-and-the-governance-paradox-bittorrent-lessons-for-crypto-3-of-4-1d14ac390f3f
https://medium.com/@simonhmorris/decentralized-disruption-who-dares-wins-bittorrent-lessons-for-crypto-4-of-4-f022e8641c1a



1640. Post 49213400 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on January 13, 2019, 03:50:41 PM
Sorry for quoting r0ach, but I agree with his statement.

Some of the things the roach says do make some sense, or at least show some mind at work. He could provide useful contributions to the discussion here, in particular contrarian views - often needed here - if only he didn't immediately slip into mindless monotonous drooling rants with the same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits same recurring bits



1641. Post 49213408 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Here comes the bart again. Fearsomely quick and unannounced as usual.



1642. Post 49217914 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 13, 2019, 07:32:26 PM


note that when his first tweet was posted here, people were saying 'nah that's bollox' within a short while
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49107258#msg49107258
So goes "Russia Is Buying A Metric Shitton Of Bitcoin".

Thanks to our top fact finder and debunker. What would we do without V8?



1643. Post 49221663 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: bones261 on January 13, 2019, 10:43:15 PM
What are the hats in aid of?
They're all ripple shills. They seem to get everywhere nowadays.

IN XRP WE TRUST!
Talk for yourself, man. I got paid in Cardano for wearing my hat. But my signature's still available!



1644. Post 49221897 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 13, 2019, 07:17:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIb2lmHgd5s
Joe Rogan Experience #1170 - Tulsi Gabbard
1,112,437 views

Half Alicia, half Kalinda.



1645. Post 49222073 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

High level poetry
On Wall Observer Sunday
Haikus are flowing

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 14, 2019, 12:57:39 AM
my one single post
On todays haiku Sunday
Is this here haiku

Quote from: Cryptoqueeen on January 13, 2019, 08:27:09 PM
Today in Krakow
Tomorrow trip to Auschwitz
Thinking about Roach

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on January 13, 2019, 08:56:43 PM
Wall Observer thread
has turned towards poetry.
Capitulation.





1646. Post 49222080 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

My contribution
To boost our very legends
Doubl'U-Oh sMerits

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 13, 2019, 10:19:21 PM
Four thousand dollars.
We thought we found a bottom.
Have some lube ready.

+1WOsMerit

(Join words and meanings
A power top that mentions
Lubrification.)


Quote from: JimboToronto on January 13, 2019, 08:57:12 PM
Life is very good.
So I'll mix a martini,
Hendrick's and Dolins.
+1WOsMerit

(There's nasty dipping
We worry for your safety
Ontario's waiting.)




1647. Post 49222223 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 13, 2019, 09:08:18 PM

https://twitter.com/CloverChron/status/1084125280384348160
French Banks Reportedly Begin To CLOSE, NOT ALLOWING WITHDRAWALS Ahead Of Yellow Vest Bank Run #france #francia #bankrun #rothschild #giletsjaunes #yellowvests #macron #macronmustgo
https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/01/12/french-banks-reportedly-begin-to-close-not-allowing-withdrawals-ahead-of-yellow-vest-bank-run/


can anyone confirm/deny?
French press is silent.
We miss the revenge feeling.
This isn't bullish.




1648. Post 49227845 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: birr on January 14, 2019, 01:04:39 PM

I would probably choose a not so far date (ie less than a year ahead) so I could go all in into longing/shorting. As majormax says, in the interim of long term many things can happen.

Like a margin call.
Leverage out the yin-yang and then, the gods of the market lower the boom on your sorry ass.
Bye-bye, birdie!
Indeed. Being able to peek at a future price point means little if we can't see the trajectory.



1649. Post 49230781 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 14, 2019, 03:01:48 PM






Who needs that part ?

Informative, bullish and timely - just before a nice patch of green.
Impossible not to merit ;-)



1650. Post 49231141 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 14, 2019, 03:39:29 PM
I tried another address tonight, one that I found on coinmap. It turned out to be an outcall massage and I'm pretty sure they don't stop at the "regular massage".
https://airbitz.co/biz/1306/hong-kong-massage-hong-kong/
The prices seem reasonable for professional work. Extras would require a different professional profile, though. I wonder how much extra they ask for the extra.



1651. Post 49235390 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Joining the choir, welcoming D. Lerk - apparently a newbie only as far as post count goes. And a tip of the hat to our crusty gentleman who baited him in.



1652. Post 49236115 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

What if we tried not to engage him for, like, say, a week, and see what happens?



1653. Post 49236466 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: bones261 on January 15, 2019, 12:52:05 AM
What if we tried not to engage him for, like, say, a week, and see what happens?

It's like the siren's call. Maybe xhomerx10 should have us trade in our hats for earmuffs.
I'm afraid you're right. At times, I've replied to him myself when I first came out of the lurking shadows.



1654. Post 49236467 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 15, 2019, 01:15:20 AM
Guys I saw this homeless-looking Ozzie guy begging near the car park so I gave him a pound coin. Anyway, he was reading a copy of Fortune and the headline was
http://fortune.com/2019/01/14/russia-considering-shift-bitcoin-limit-impact-us-sanctions/
Guys Russia is going all in.
God bless Mother Russia and Vladislav Clitco or w/e
Fortune, too, is downing the bait?  Huh



1655. Post 49252794 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Globb0 on January 15, 2019, 10:44:02 PM
FS you try an do good round here you get banned.

Loosers hehe
Now I see what happened, and why I got some sweet merit from you.
I won't thank you, though. It's to keep you out of trouble ;-)



1656. Post 49253098 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on January 15, 2019, 10:31:33 PM
Interesting Wired article... maybe pertinent to the WOber thread?
(Apologies if already linked as its 4 days old... I know,that's ancient history in crypto,and tbh
I don't obsess over this thread so much as I used too, fair weather fan and such....)

https://www.wired.com/story/the-exaggerated-promise-of-data-mining/

Quote
In 2018, a Yale economics professor and a graduate student calculated correlations between daily changes in Bitcoin prices and hundreds of other financial variables. They found that Bitcoin prices were positively correlated with stock returns in the consumer goods and health care industries, and that they were negatively correlated with stock returns in the fabricated products and metal mining industries. “We don’t give explanations," the professor said, "we just document this behavior.” In other words, they may as well have looked at correlations of Bitcoin prices with hundreds of lists of telephone numbers and reported the highest correlations.


I don't get the point of that article. It says that looking for any correlations is going to find some, no matter what. So what? Correlation is not causation. Making sense of the (confirmed) correlations one finds requires insight, that's all.



1657. Post 49272222 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on January 16, 2019, 08:51:25 PM
....  But mostly the forks have little to no impact and are ignored.  

Well yeah, but a lot of folks in here, myself included, got free bitcoin from dumping them, so there's that.
It's like an inflation tax, partly rebatable. The actual rebate rate (possibly over 100%) depends on when/if the fork is pocketed (never? Then 0%).



1658. Post 49272322 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 17, 2019, 12:14:05 AM
The 21 million limit and block reward reductions are not set in stone. All it takes is consensus and these things can be changed.

Easier said than done.  Good luck with those kinds of core change proposals that you believe to be so potentially malleable.

21 words. No appearance of "seemingly", still with substitutes of sorts ("you believe to be so potentially"). That's some progress. Due where's due. Missing GTFO though.



1659. Post 49272492 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 16, 2019, 10:13:55 PM
However, IMHO, next bull would probably be the last one (or penultimate) driven mostly by halvings because at some point we would have to transition to a situation where miners make money mostly from tx and not from block mining.

Lest we forget halvings are bound to be non-events soon.
+1 WOsMerit

Quote from: sirazimuth on January 16, 2019, 09:18:00 PM
I think a lot of folks like myself invested/mined when bitcoin in 3 figures.
Then watched their stash balloon to 20k/coin and didn't sell thinking
 "oh it's gonna be 50k in a month or 2 . I'd be foolish to dump it now!!!"
yeah that was me....But still holdinghodeling ..still way up despite the 80% crash.
But damn! I left a shitload of doe on the table.... (I'm not the only one, that's for sure)
No worries... it could be a lot worse.. I pity the grandmas and taxi drivers that bought at 19k.
fomo can be deadly in crypto.

Anyway, as always, as Jimbo says.... GO BITCOIN
Real life bullishness. I raise my half-full glass.
+1 WOsMerit

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 16, 2019, 09:18:37 PM

Repost of a classic chart (source unknown):



This is my take on that chart that infofront posted after some consideration. I think the next peak will be in the 2nd half of '21 in December. If this is any indication then we will have one week between now and mid-summer of fairly extreme volatility that will make a yearly ATL before trending upwards. Many assumptions and a fair amount of bias here so do your own research.

A clear prediction, easy to check for correctness. With the usual graphs (I cut them out). You spoil us by making this thread look as if we were watching prices. I was surprised when I saw you'd become a hero. Could have sworn you were already.



1660. Post 49290334 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: kurious on January 17, 2019, 09:56:54 PM

Same guy, further down his feed:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1086004489415360512

Something about this lady seemed intriguing.
I'm in love.



1661. Post 49290342 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Vaculin on January 18, 2019, 01:28:16 AM
Bitcoin kills them all, probably it's gonna be the scenario 100 years from now.  Grin
100 is too much. It either happens sooner than that or not at all.



1662. Post 49304494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 18, 2019, 03:26:37 PM

who's taking the first shot at it? I'm a little affraid as it seems my HAIKU efford sucked over and over

what's that grin about?
wall-observer's only ALT?
grintalk matters now !!

I think this is good, relevant and metrically flowing. Nicely done!



1663. Post 49304918 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 18, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
On that note, Macleod is on a tear again: https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/crypto-credibility?gmrefcode=gata

Imagine that Epic Crypto Bubble  Roll Eyes
Goldbugs will be goldbugs.



1664. Post 49304989 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 18, 2019, 09:57:14 PM
Is this interesting? Or just grin and bare it?



https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1086122797988864000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://coingape.com/grin-accussed-wrong-doing-trading-volume/
Volume > supply - of grin, I suppose.
What does this have to do with printing BTC out of thin air?
I'm not implying shady exchanges don't do that all the time, but I fail to see the link.



1665. Post 49305394 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

This guy looks better in the bald version.



1666. Post 49323687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 20, 2019, 04:29:22 AM
Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

Walls are investments.  But education and health are not investments.  Got it.  
Again, it's almost nothing compared to the other stuff. And I know you know this. You are being deliberately obtuse.
On the other hand, you don't seem so deliberate this time.



1667. Post 49329489 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 20, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
This time it has been fast, 24h:
3882 UP 3600 DOWN
Rinse and Repeat
I've been pleased to finally find my short leg closed in profit too. Now I'm flat, total profit ~1.3%.



1668. Post 49330211 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: DeathAngel on January 20, 2019, 12:40:30 PM
Time to open a short?

$3,3xx incoming?
I'd take it easy with leverage though. It can easily take a quick run up to 3.6-3.7k just to sweep stops or shake careless shorters.



1669. Post 49341069 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 21, 2019, 01:03:19 AM
Yes that plunge may have been capitulation after all (I denied it before) and we are now in 'despair' - too fucking right.
Is that it? This despair feels a little too good to me.



1670. Post 49357031 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on January 21, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
Quote
egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam;

spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam;
You beat me to it!   Cheesy




1671. Post 49357099 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 21, 2019, 09:23:40 PM
Something that 'breaks the rules'.

That article making parallels between bittorrent and bitcoin really hit home, didn't it.



1672. Post 49370062 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on January 22, 2019, 01:28:50 PM
BIS chief Agustín Carstens: Bitcoin must depart from PoW.

I like how bankers starting to sweat they know Bitcoin will eat their lunch  Smiley

https://cointelegraph.com/news/major-central-bank-institution-bis-bitcoin-must-depart-from-proof-of-work

As with the other BIS news item of the day, it is 100% clear they are lying.
(snip)
Now they try to trick Bitcoin into destroying itself by giving up decentralization by replacing POW (after a long bullshit smear campaign calling Bitcoin mining wasteful and bad for the environent).

It seems like they are becoming desperate. Their campaign will likely (unfortunately) work to overturn Brexit (scaring and shaming the British public into voting remain in a second referendum) but will they succeed with Bitcoin?
(snip)
Yes, it sounds like they're getting desperate.

I don't know about Brexit. I think the public was tricked into voting without full information. See the 'All them EU rules innit' twitter thread. It might actually be better for Britain not to leave, but it's all speculation: we'll never have actual what-if data. So who knows.

As for bitcoin, I don't think they can overturn PoW whatever they say. The supporters of "the fees won't be enough to support the miners" argument always forget to consider what the price might have become in the meantime!  Wink



1673. Post 49374094 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 22, 2019, 10:22:21 PM
One day, God saw all the horrors that mankind were discovering.

A single tear fell to Earth in a lush green field of grasses - weeping over what his children were doing to themselves.

From this field of ancient grasses, sprung the first sinsemilla, and spread its seed.

It's hard for sinsemilla to spread her seed without losing sinsemilla status!  Grin



1674. Post 49385675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 23, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
It's hard for sinsemilla to spread her seed without losing sinsemilla status!  Grin

I had to think about this for a little while.

It was The Miraculous Sensemilla.
The Rastafarian version of the Immaculate Conception?



1675. Post 49431230 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 26, 2019, 05:09:52 AM
Interesting. A new era of corporate and sovereign slow data bases is nigh upon us.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611656/will-people-ditch-cash-for-cryptocurrency-japan-is-about-to-find-out/

Yours, sir, is a remarkably accurate summary.

The Japanese are accustomed to being treated like cows by the companies that milk them shamelessy, as long as the appropriate honorifics are used in all communication.



1676. Post 49432928 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

I'll keep my greetings in one post.

Happy birthday, VB! I hope by next one you'll be disgustingly rich ;-)

Welcome back, erre! I'm glad account recovery worked for you.

Hello Masterluc! Hope they are treating you well in the asylum.

Hello, weekend! What will you be? Pump, dump or dumb (sideways)?



1677. Post 49433964 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on January 26, 2019, 02:27:49 PM
if bitcoin falls to 1000, then BCH will not fall lower than now

ETH may drop to $ 10, LTC to $ 4, but BCH may not fall below $ 75 because nobody bought it cheaper
Except the btc holders who got it as an airdrop, and a bunch of losers who can't tell bitcoin from worthless imitations.

Quote from: wachtwoord on January 26, 2019, 02:30:49 PM
BCH will fall to $0 cause that's the terminal value. Don't ask me about timeline though.
It might be slow exponential decay, but I subscribe to this analysis.



1678. Post 49434148 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: nutildah on January 26, 2019, 03:42:14 PM
if bitcoin falls to 1000, then BCH will not fall lower than now

ETH may drop to $ 10, LTC to $ 4, but BCH may not fall below $ 75 because nobody bought it cheaper


I wonder what prompted this invasion. Alls this guy does is shill for BCH

Stop pushing these false accusations! He shills for ETH too sometimes  Tongue



1679. Post 49435216 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 26, 2019, 04:39:00 PM
Greetings.

I am new to these forums.

I have a few hundred Bitcoin that are dollar-cost averaged mined at $0.

Is now a good time to dump my bags ? I am having extreme difficulty deciding. What should I do ?
Hello, newcomer, and welcome to the WOT.

We generally advise against dumping one's bags (well, it actually depends on the bag one is referring to, but I don't want to confuse you too much. Let's stick to bitcoin. Sorry for my digression).

If you sell all your coin now, you'll suffer some nasty effects.

- You'll have to endure harsh derision here. You will feel much less welcome, I can assure you.

- You'll feel miserable when everyone in the WOT and their dogs will be disgustingly rich and celebrating.

There are things you can do in the meantime to ease the suffering. It is customary for new members to make a huge donation to the person who welcomes them on thread (in your case that's me, evidently). After this small formality, the others and myself will be able to advise you much better, so feel free to make the transfer quickly!

Looking forward to your continued presence here.



1680. Post 49465166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 27, 2019, 10:03:42 PM
Clean up all your exif data?

First thing imgur does upon upload, IIRC, is blow away any provided exif data.
Is that a fact? Never uploaded anything on here because I was too lazy to bother with exif.

I don't know whether it is a fact, but that is what imgur claims. And I've never seen such be credibly disputed.
I'm betting they keep a copy of the deleted exif anyway.



1681. Post 49467702 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on January 28, 2019, 11:44:28 AM
Going to take this opportunity to shill two prog rock albums in case anyone here is into that. Both are actually from 2017 as opposed to the 1970s though.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana
As the name suggests, this one is microtonal, e.g. using notes that aren't represented on traditional chromatic 12-note scales.
I checked this out. I wouldn't call it prog rock - it lacks the complication and the grandiosity. It sounds like psych rock to me. Good though.

Quote
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Polygondwanaland
This one isn't, but still good.



1682. Post 49492049 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 29, 2019, 09:07:04 PM
Danny's back
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/fastbitcoinscom-enables-cash-bitcoin-exchange-lightning-network/

6% my ass, the fuckers.



1683. Post 49551395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

While catching up with the WOT, I found several good posts - more than usual - and I sprinkled a little merit powder here and there. I got no time right now, and I'm still 10 pages behind. I like what I'm seeing.



1684. Post 49630734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

I've got no hope. The 10 pages I was lagging behind have turned into a 50 page monster. That's what you get when real life gets busy. In the meantime, our beloved btc has slipped down ~80$, with no sign of a quick rebound up. Well, I guess it doesn't mean much, does it?

Welcome back machasm!
Glad to see account recovery is being rolled out.

Thanks xhomerx10!
I've replaced my avatar with your newly designed transparent model. Still wishing for a different hat, but I can't find a suitable image quickly, and at the moment I've got no time to look for it.




1685. Post 49683452 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Unbarted debarts
and the living is easy
but she still feels fake.



1686. Post 49715836 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 06, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/_connerbrown_/status/1092614372864618496?s=21
Your cryptocurrency prof didn't know that book? Your cryptocurrency professor at Stanford?



1687. Post 49759090 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

I'm still lagging some 80 pages, although I do try to keep up whenever I can. I guess that's what you get when life calls.

However, I managed to buy ~1 coin over the past week. That's what matters most!  Grin



1688. Post 49763325 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: nanobtc on February 11, 2019, 04:58:31 AM
Unbarted debarts
and the living is easy
but she still feels fake.

Sounds like George Gershwin. In Haiku
The reference was intentional indeed  Wink



1689. Post 49771803 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 12, 2019, 11:04:21 PM
https://blog.bitmex.com/anatomy-of-the-next-global-financial-crisis/

Bitmex research is nearly always quite good. Thanks for the heads up, V8.



1690. Post 49787146 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Dildos and haikus
rising volatility
W.O. weekend



1691. Post 49811835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Going to break 4k, are we?



1692. Post 49812553 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 18, 2019, 07:11:23 PM


I do not know what he laughs about, but he does it with enthusiasm.
She knows something that we do not know?

She’s got teeth like a witch doctors necklace.
Good woman this. You no feel teeth I promise.



1693. Post 49812886 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

I'd like to run a LN node. Initial funding will come from some small profits I made in the current wave of volatility. I have the latest bitcoin client (Core  0.17.1) running on Linux. Which LN client do you think is the best choice at the moment?



1694. Post 49820028 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 19, 2019, 06:11:16 AM
Which LN client do you think is the best choice at the moment?

Started out with c-lightning, but switched over to the official LND as it's more stable, IMO.

https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd


Quote from: 600watt on February 19, 2019, 06:27:56 AM
just do it. every WO hat should run a lightning node. I ordered mine last week. was considering to publicly announce that everytime a fuckin´big blocker posts in the WO thread I will order a casa node.

Thanks for the info (Bawb) and the encouragement (0.6 kW). Two sMerits deservedly gone  Wink



1695. Post 49820301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: ðºÞæ on February 19, 2019, 06:55:24 AM
A bitcoiner is against turning the true nature of bitcoin, into whats becoming core-centric, commercialised network crap.
Bitcoin was born to get away from that crap of centralist capitalism, and yet stupid people want it to bcome the same crap as what was available before 2009.

Deburden the bitcoin network. by promoting other networks, altcoins, central services is not a Bitcoiner.

LN is just the same as 0 confirmation on Bitcoin network, instant and same level of trust,  

We've been warned you're a troll/BCH shill by some of our keenest member, but it's not always possible to be on the lookout for bullshit, so here's a hint for newer WO participants or budding troll hunters/shill shredders.

I used red to mark, well, red flags. Those who use such terms to describe LN are easily indentified as pests. LN isn't either core-centric, or about an altcoin, or centralized. Future developments might head towards the growth of larger nodes run by entities with significant cash flow (i.e., exchanges), but it hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it will be a hindrance. On the contrary, it will provide welcome bidirectional liquidity to the network. It is always possible to route around such nodes, if the rest of the network is sufficiently connected.

I used the brown color for its likeness to human feces. Or bovine feces, more appropriately. It's plain verifiable bullshit. Every edge traversed in the LN requires cryptographic proof. Unverified/unconfirmed? Quite the opposite. Look and smell, young friends. That's how it feels when someone is spreading bullshit all over the place.



1696. Post 49837794 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 20, 2019, 03:57:42 PM
Just no. The opening and the closing are Bitcoin transactions. All the in-channel transactions are NOT Bitcoin transactions. Sorry. This should be obvious.
Right, not on-chain transactions.

Quote
The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.
In order to build on the basic protocol, fixing transaction malleability was long overdue. It could have been done some other way, right. Or things could have been left broken, as is the case for some shitcoins.



1697. Post 49899401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on February 22, 2019, 10:10:44 PM
Had to make a call to set the record straight. Sorry for the wall.

Me: Dad, help me out with this one because I'm a bit confused, would it be fair to say that ancient Sparta was a patriarch society or a matriarch society?

(detailed self-correction snipped)

The Universe is female in nature Ibian. It gives birth to things.

http://www.nostimonimar.gr/the-future-is-female/
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9C%CE%B7%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%87%CE%AF%CE%B1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons

See you on Monday now, my WO fuckers. Have  good weekend with many many green dildos.

Intellectual honesty is to be rewarded IMO. Merited (and I'm running quite low by now).



1698. Post 49899456 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

I sold the whole lot a little over 4k.

Actually, it was a little lot. A leveraged long I started when smelling bulls coming our way. This is being a good weekend. Thanks, my dear.

I just managed to close the matching short too. Snug snug snug snug.



1699. Post 49899706 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 22, 2019, 08:36:27 PM
(chickenfeed)

(blabla) allows anyone to feed chickens by making an onchain BCH tx. But I guess some are destined to be followers.  Grin

Can't you really see why that specific "service" is way more appropriate to be done in L2?

Sure. It's appropriate for L2 if your L1 isn't up to the task.

No. You are always carefully ignoring that an onchain tx not only consumes bandwidth and cpu power (which is mostly irrelevant unless we are talking of several orders of magnitude more tx's) but accumulated historical storage.

I am not ignoring it. I am merely treating it as irrelevant. Because it is.
On the contrary, it is very relevant. I much prefer the LN "clean sweep" approach, because it leaves things squeaky clean when the channels are closed. It's not only a matter of computational efficiency. Can't you see the privacy implications? I'm sure you can. Your technical prowess and articulate arguing make you come across as a malicious shill rather than a fool in denial.



1700. Post 49899742 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 23, 2019, 07:18:35 PM
tc: never got any merits for your squiggles and memes, so please accept this meme in small tribute


This post reveals a deep understanding of the feline mind. Did you make it or find it? I admire you anyway.

EDIT Oops, fat finger! Merited twice. To new participants: sorry - the second one was meant for one of you Grin



1701. Post 49899966 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 24, 2019, 03:46:33 PM
tc: never got any merits for your squiggles and memes, so please accept this meme in small tribute


This post reveals a deep understanding of the feline mind. Did you make it or find it? I admire you anyway.

The feline mind in some ways is not much different than ours, specially when childs. I remember the extreme joy huge cardboard boxes (like ones of fridges) provided me. It could be anything you could imagine from a magical cave, a vehicle (to run stairsdown) to an "spacecraft" Smiley

That being said, my cats also love their rope scratcher tree, in a different way.

I smell a fellow cat lover. No, no... it's an aura thing, not cat piss!  Tongue



1702. Post 49900251 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: mikeywith on February 23, 2019, 09:54:49 PM
I am feeling more and more confident that the low we seen in December of 2018 was the bottom. Maybe even up to and over 51% now. The next major milestone is when and where we deal with this overall downtrend line from the ATH.

I do think so too, that charts say so, but i don't think this is the rally we waiting for.

Quote from: mikeywith on December 23, 2018, 02:45:15 PM
before you start reading. if you think TA is useless, gtfo now because this is going to be painful to read.

(snip)
It's only you, Toxic, Hairy and a few precious others that make it look like we really follow the price here. Merited.

Btw, I agree with this view fwiw.



1703. Post 49900425 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 23, 2019, 10:43:29 PM

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Didn’t read any F***ing thing from here
But man booze has to come out sooner or later
And come on give me Some sending around dynamite
I give them best when i’m @i’m right now
And meanwhile i’ve been given them nocoiners Some talk and sense F*** like Some of them but retarded as oilgrease they are!!!!
Where’s that white russian cause closing the eve @a cocktail bar
!!!!
Cheers
BoB are you drinking to?
I’m way ahead of you

I wonder who and how held the camera? Handless pissjob? I don't believe it for a minute. I'm sure there's more to the Goose than meets the eye. One of your team maybe?  (nudge nudge JJG Cheesy Tongue Tongue)



1704. Post 49902400 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on February 24, 2019, 06:20:00 AM
@btc banned me for uncomfortable questions, repeat them more often: "What's the point of lightning if bitcoin was invented to fight lightning? Are you sure that inside the channel you can not print unnoticed new coins according to the Ponzi scheme?"
Yeah, printing coin on obscure Lightning channels is too easy. I'm getting rich./s

Paranoia without any understanding doesn't even look annoying - just daft.



1705. Post 49917281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 25, 2019, 11:33:55 AM


the billion dollar eth play on mex
Indeed, we were generously advised to buy a few days ago (obliquely).



1706. Post 49917341 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 25, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Surely we can see with some degree of accurateness word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup word soup and other datas on the interwebs which back up these rumorifications

JJ, did you stake a BTC address?



1707. Post 49928262 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 26, 2019, 02:50:40 AM
Surely we can see with some degree of accurateness that this postulation bears a degree of accuracy while at the same time and notwithstanding
(snip)
we can also state that there are some figures and other datas on the interwebs which back up these rumorifications

A little out of line, it's not Thursday yet.

V8's keyboard seems to be spewing out gobble-dee-gook.  Even I agree.   Wink   Tongue

Surely we can see with some degree of accurateness word soup word soup word soup word soup
(snip)

JJ, did you stake a BTC address?

You mean me?  or jojo?  

I know that a joke would not be as good if it has to be explained, but isn't the suggestion that V8 is making fun of me by his long text, not that I took over V8's account or that he would be taking over mine?  I am losing the connection.   Cry
The implication is that as you took over V8's, someone could take over yours for retribution. Funny joke eh?  Roll Eyes. I'm embarrassed.



1708. Post 49930983 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: toknormal on February 26, 2019, 02:35:06 PM


Unusual, baers being led by hodlers.



1709. Post 49946042 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Small profits with these ups and downs. I'm flat at the moment, but I just bought a little more not to let my stash sleep too long  Cool



1710. Post 49968661 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: fillippone on February 28, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106432.msg49960305#msg49960305
No TA, only “fundamental analysis”

Quote from: fillippone on March 01, 2019, 12:58:47 AM
yuh not one of my best ones. just some geezer who writes unfeasibly long posts here in broken robo-English
Hey!
I write long post but my broken English is 100% human!
But actually I’m broken.
So, broken-human English, rather than broken robo-English.

I didn't spend merit on legends like V8 inspecting AH AH AH's selfies or Mic's robofrog (well he technically is no legend but you know, I didn't notice) just so to be able to award information-rich but structured and digestible posts by prelegendaries.

Ah and thanks for the heads up, V8. Wouldn't have noticed.

+1 WOsMerit to Last of the V8s and to The Goose.

In other news, +1 WOsMerit to Elwar (wow, man) and Jojo (heads up).




1711. Post 49989804 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: serveria.com on March 02, 2019, 11:34:17 AM
I just read this:

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/01/bitcoin-seastead/

Congratulations Elwar!!!

Nicely done!

I'm famous! Guess it's time to move to Hollywood and get into the drug scene. Then end up broke in the gutter until years later when they ask "where are they now?" where I clean up for the interview as everyone says how brave I am.

One can dream...

Wow we have our own celebrity now! Congrats! Any plans on establishing your own country/state? I'm not asking about the currency though as it's clear it's gonna be BTC  Cool
Is it, Elwar? There were tentative plans about a different currency for onboard transactions if good company arrives.

By the way, I really admire you. It takes tons of guts to do what you're doing. History books may take notice.



1712. Post 49991604 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 02, 2019, 06:25:33 PM

Normally, Isis doesn't. These are the gold they stole from Assad. Isis is a band of thieves and killers which got planted in the Middle East by the US. That's the only thing you should be seeing in this article. Don't get drowned in the details.

Assad didn't cooperate with Israel, USA didn't like it. It is as simple as this.

A bit oversimplified but essentially true.

I just hope the Kurds don't end up taking it in the ass (again) out of the deal.

Also, fuck Erdogan.

QFT.

BTW mindrust I feel for you.



1713. Post 49992066 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

The short term oscillations are getting smaller and smaller. Easiest to see on the 15 min chart probably. Smallish breakoutish? Down or up? I'm flat again, after a fat whole 25 mBTC profit.



1714. Post 49992244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Well, I see your point. However, profiting in such a market requires being ready to short - at least for me it does. Shorting is not something I do happily, and when I do short it's always with a definite goal in mind or as a hedge against a risky long.



1715. Post 49993022 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 02, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
A question please: I think people were discussing their music production stuff, maybe bob and some other Europe guys?, somewhere in this thread years back. I cant find it, so sorry for the OT.
 
What was the software you were recommending? could I use it for multi track recording? guitar, vocals etc?
I can't remember what the advice was, but I suggest you could try Reaper.
It's a full featured DAW system, cross platform, very stable, minimum footprint, updated frequently.
It has a very interesting price and a generous policy about unpaid use.

Quote from: jbreher on March 02, 2019, 08:56:37 PM
Presonus offers a free limited edition of StudioOne. Cross platform. Again, probably all you'd need for your first forays. Though I don't know its limitations - I own the fully equipped edition.
The limited edition can't load standard third party plugins. That's the most crippling unfeature.



1716. Post 50029059 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Mardi gras sentiment.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 05, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
I’ll be cashing out some at those kind of prices. I have to, I can’t see my net worth drop that much again & have gained nothing from it.

I’ll definitely stay around & be posting here regularly though.

Quote from: serveria.com on March 05, 2019, 11:33:50 AM
I'm planning to cash out some small fraction once we'll reach ~50k. I could liquidate some 50-80% when we'll reach 1m too. But I will never sell 100%...

Quote from: serveria.com on March 05, 2019, 11:31:04 AM
Also not impressed - 100k by 2023 is ain't moon...  Cool  1m would be nice...

And you call this capitulation? Tut tut. Not there at all.

Quote from: bitserve on March 05, 2019, 11:31:30 AM
I wouldn't call ANY chart that shows a price of $100K+ in the next following years as "conservative". It doesn't mind what I wish. $100K is (currently) just an utopian dream for me. Dreams do realise sometimes though Smiley

Quote from: bitserve on March 05, 2019, 09:21:09 AM
40K this year? Not gonna happen.

Well now that's more like it, but still smells like hope. Strive harder, my friends.



1717. Post 50032231 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 05, 2019, 03:36:33 PM
^
I made a small list of Bitcoin debit cards in my local section.
Maybe you're interested:

Bitpay

https://bitpay.com/card/

Shift

https://www.shiftpayments.com/card

Coinbase Shift

https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2228646-the-shift-card

Wirex

https://wirexapp.com/card

Revolut

https://www.revolut.com/es-ES/

Cryptopay

https://cryptopay.me/bitcoin-debit-card

Payglobal

https://payglobal.me/

Uquid

https://uquid.com/uquid-card

SpectroCoin

https://spectrocoin.com/en/bitcoin-debit-card.html

Bitwala

https://www.bitwala.com/card/

Xapo

https://xapo.com/es/

I thought most of these companies shut down debit card operations after being dumped by Visa. Last I heard, they were looking for alternatives or mumbling about building one. Are they with Mastercard now, or is there a new actor?



1718. Post 50037163 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
BlockFi looks to boost market with launch of high-interest accounts​.

New York lending firm BlockFi announced Tuesday it is launching a crypto savings account with 6 percent annual interest, payable monthly in bitcoin or ether.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/03/05/crypto-cash-back-blockfi-looks-to-boost-market-with-launch-of-high-interest-accounts%E2%80%8B/

Well that's audacious.

How the hell can something like that be sustainable?
They can do what they like with their own coin, can't they? Including closing shop when things get clumsy.
Your coin, you say? Not yours anymore since you gave up your keys.



1719. Post 50037202 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 05, 2019, 06:42:24 PM
Well now that's more like it, but still smells like hope. Strive harder, my friends.

Hahahahahaha

Not only are you acting out as a debbie downer, d_eddie, you seem to be asserting that capitulation remains a condition precedent for the BTC price to return UP.

I am not claiming that you are wrong.  I am just pointing out what seems to be a purposeful contrarian tone. 



Exactamente!



1720. Post 50037251 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 05, 2019, 11:38:58 PM
BlockFi looks to boost market with launch of high-interest accounts​.

New York lending firm BlockFi announced Tuesday it is launching a crypto savings account with 6 percent annual interest, payable monthly in bitcoin or ether.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/03/05/crypto-cash-back-blockfi-looks-to-boost-market-with-launch-of-high-interest-accounts%E2%80%8B/

Well that's audacious.

How the hell can something like that be sustainable?
They can do what they like with their own coin, can't they? Including closing shop when things get clumsy.
Your coin, you say? Not yours anymore since you gave up your keys.

Right, but I am afraid that services like this would proliferate soon.
People hope against reason to consume without selling their btc.
I expect bakkt to do something similar.
Yes, indeed. However, I hope bakkt would have more to lose if they pull a runner - more collateral, more intangibles.



1721. Post 50047048 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 06, 2019, 06:43:01 AM
So I have been thinking, I have some play money on a phone I don't use, some 400 USD worth of bitcoin.
I'm thinking about converting them to litecoins and hope for a halving spike.
I gotta do something, this sideways is just too boring, I need at least some of the kicks you get when the price goes up.
If it's play money, go for it! Maybe not all in, just for the satisfaction "I gained some coin on the LTC pump!". Of course, it's best if, as I imagine, you're going to convert the profits back into BTC.



1722. Post 50047451 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on March 06, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
As we should all be well aware, the mempool activity can not be firmly correlated to any pricing action.

Having said that, things are getting spicy today.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h



HODL.

I think it's just Jbreher spamming the network

Stop the unfair accusations! Jbreher never spammed the network for all we know.
But he sure praises those who do.  Grin  Tongue Tongue Tongue



1723. Post 50072917 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: ivomm on March 08, 2019, 07:12:51 AM
w00t, 4k broken on bitfinex

edit: bitfinex is much more pleasant then bitstamp, the prices are hodler friendlier their.  Grin

We don't use bitfinex here.

I see that you have heard of bitstamp... right?   Tongue Tongue

I still don't understand what keeps Bitfinex steadily above the other exchanges by about $100... I know they are the biggest Tether exchanger, but it seems like people should have been able to find non-USDT ways to arbitrage their price down to an equilibrium after all these months.

Current prices

Bitfinex: $4003
Bitstamp: $3893
Kraken: $3895
GDAX: $3897

Huh something doesn't add up here

The arbitrage with Bitcoin to fiat is very risky. First, Bitfinex is nothing like the US exchanges (which are under the supervision of SEC) and is known with their "hacks" and "bank problems". This means your money can be stolen and you can't do anything about it. Second: if you buy at Bitstamp and transfer the Bitcoins to Bitfinex, you have to wait several hours during which time the price may dip. And finally, you are allowed to withdraw fiat only once per month a sum less than 1 mil$. Otherwise, you have to pay 3% fee. And since USDT is traded 2% higher than the USD, you are not able to withdraw on a profit USDT. Speaking of arbitrage, it is better to use ETH or other alt, because they are faster. But the premium is smaller, I think 1.5%. Anyway, it is not worth the risk IMO.

Edit. This does not mean that there are no people who take advantage of this arbitrage possibility. I am sure most  of the miners prefer to sell in Bitfinex to have a bit bigger profit. And since the volume is very low recently like 1.8K for a time last Sunday and 6-7K like today, this may have a significant negative impact on the price. If the price is the same, not many miners will risk to use Bitfinex. So for me, the sooner this gap is closed, the better.
Sharp analysis! Are you a (former) miner by any chance?



1724. Post 50073317 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on March 08, 2019, 09:15:42 AM
(snip)

I'm currently thinking three scenarios that would get us out of my own personal consideration of this current bear market and into a conceptual bull market.

1) BTC price rises above $6k and stays there for at least two months

2) BTC price rises above $4.5k and stays there for at least six months

3) BTC price does not break below $3,320 for at least one year

Anyone going to label my tentative "getting out of a bear market and into a bull market" conditions ridiculous?

Here is my opinion on this matter. All three scenarios would give one a very high probability of being correct in declaring a Bull Market. The nuance here that is important is that the Bull Market would not start on the day one of these conditions was met, it would still have begun on December 15, 2018. Bear Markets have a way of beating a lot of bulls down and making them set a very high bar for what it would take for them to consider the market to have flipped back to bull.
Right! Bull market start and sentiment recognition are often separated by a significant time interval. Short of spotting the exact bottom, being timely can bring handsome rewards.



1725. Post 50073395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 08, 2019, 10:30:34 AM
University is now school round two instead of being an institution that fosters research and critical thinking (in non-research students - which make up the majority of the student body). I was appalled at how cookie cutter Mathematics and Physics programs are and surprised at the resulting quality of graduates (before I realized the problem).

I'm afraid it's happening everywhere.

Unrelated note: will y'all please stop posting so much sense? I have but one sMerit left.



1726. Post 50073437 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 08, 2019, 11:03:16 AM

Anyone notice how the fire jets look like corn?

EDIT Xhomerx did it and beat me to it  Cheesy



1727. Post 50079295 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

A small shake. 80 bucks or so. Come on, whales, you can do better.
Boring weekend? Should we archive our dildos for the time being?



1728. Post 50080196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 09, 2019, 12:06:12 AM
According to the 2014 / 15 crypto market schedule, the train is running on time.



This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.



1729. Post 50080435 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 09, 2019, 01:30:50 AM
This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

Joking apart, I don't know what to think myself. I also am inclined to think some real despair is needed before the strong hands can move on.

As time passes, however, I see trend lines reversing and don't know what to make of it. What I've seen, a few times already, is that when she moves, she moves suddenly and unexpectedly. So we may be in for a rough ride indeed.

There are a couple of critical moments when the likeliness of traumatic plunges will be higher. Someone here mentioned the first half of May, and I thought it was a smart point. Can't remember what it was, though. Besides, I'm sure other keen participants would be able to provide hypotheses that are just as smart, while predicting the opposite.

So what do we know? Hodl.



1730. Post 50116216 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Searing on March 11, 2019, 05:41:25 AM
Fourth consecutive week closed in the green... and I still have no fucking idea what the price is gonna do next. Bleh. If at least I had the balls to aggressively scalp around this range....


Welcome to my world...befuddled...hodl'ing but befuddled on 2019, especially with the mt. gox dump in May 2019..I think it is?
That was it! The next event supposedly causing a systemic dip - I couldn't remember the event or the poster. It was Searing.



1731. Post 50116474 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: serveria.com on March 11, 2019, 10:03:54 AM

Very good.

This happens when you fck with Bitcoin.

Indeed, Jihan will be working as a male prostitute at 100k party   Grin

"Fuck me if you want fuck"?



1732. Post 50171909 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 15, 2019, 11:38:54 AM
Near as I can tell both the extreme left (Stalin) and the extreme right (Sparta, no modern analogues exist) are authoritarian. Personal liberty can only exist between those extremes, in times of peace.
I agree with PoliticalCompass: one axis (authoritarian/libertarian) is not enough to pinpoint a political position, not even a meaningful approximation.

I took their test some years ago, and I remember where I was placed by it (well, more or less). I'll retake it soon, just to see if my position has changed.



1733. Post 50172135 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

So I visited https://www.politicalcompass.org to gauge my current position.

I think their characterization of the historical 20th century nationalistic right is wrong. They say Hitler wasn't that much of a right wing man economically (which I agree with), but they place Mussolini at the extreme economic right, which isn't accurate. Both leaders were socialists at heart, especially the Italian guy - who influenced and contributed to shape the German's view on economics.

I agree with V8 that the questions are too generic - and often ambiguous, as others have pointed out. Just some fun game, that's all. And the spectrum is too limited. I was expecting I'd be placed closer to center on both axes. As the test is right now, I found out I'm in the same spot as Bernie Sanders. When I took the test a few years ago, Sanders wasn't even a thing, but the general area was similar. Champagne socialists* unite!

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-5.4&soc=-5.69


*credit to Hairy for the term



1734. Post 50172697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 15, 2019, 01:15:44 PM
Japan is faking its friendliness.
Also, it's not true that I couldn't get a Japanese passport. It's not as easy as it is in most Western places, but it's certainly possible. I could pretty much get one within two more years if I recall correctly.
You have to give up your previous citizenship though: Japan doesn't allow double passport.



1735. Post 50173694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 15, 2019, 02:50:04 PM

No surprises here


Interesting.  I would have put you with quite a bit more positive Y axis Hairy.  You always seem to be looking to the state for solutions in your posts.
I too thought I would end up only slightly negative on both axes.

As for appeal to state authority for solutions, it's probably just realism. Steering from above can change minds in due course.



1736. Post 50186193 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: DaRude on March 16, 2019, 05:30:38 AM
At least Adam used to delete Roach when he got too out of hand, for some reason infofront is providing a platform for them

Infofront's got more of a life probably, just that. Often busy with his day job and always with his newborn. Personally speaking, I like his relaxed style. He does have a go at cleaning up once in a while. I agree roach and others are a nuisance with their slavering rants, so when things become uncomfortable we have that useful ignore button.  Grin



1737. Post 50199656 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 16, 2019, 05:43:23 PM
Would we erect a temple to The Flying Spaghetti Monster on an Island, attend services with White Russians and Beer every Sunday morning, dressed as pirates, for example ?

I'm all for Flying Spaghetti Monster worship, but I think the services shouldn't be too early in the morning. They could interfere with mandatory Saturday partying. How about Sunday afternoons?



1738. Post 50212476 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 18, 2019, 05:14:43 AM
I would probably like Raising Arizona if I rewatched it but its been so long, I don't remember how I feel about it...

It's brilliant!



1739. Post 50213725 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

I am also flat at the moment, and buying the dips whenever I have a chance. I hope for a slow rise where I can scalp a few conservative longs, but I know the road ahead is likely bumpy.



1740. Post 50216640 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Short term oscillations (1m-3m) tightening. Breakout soon? Up or down?



1741. Post 50233735 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Bought another 0.2 or so. I think I'll be able to get a more substantial chunk within a couple of months, so I just hope the price stays in this area a little longer.



1742. Post 50233742 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 19, 2019, 11:05:37 PM
We have Lions, tigers and bears, here.

And bugs.



1743. Post 50234106 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: bones261 on March 19, 2019, 11:26:37 PM
Bought another 0.2 or so. I think I'll be able to get a more substantial chunk within a couple of months, so I just hope the price stays in this area a little longer.

Yeah, right.  We are just going to hang around here for a couple more months in order that you can buy another .2BTC.  ok....


Too bad that they don't have BTC call options that I am aware of.  Then d_eddie could buy an option to buy at this price (or a little higher) for the next two months.
No options that I know of either.

And JJG, that wouldn't be 0.2 or I wouldn't have bothered to poke you into a retort ;-)



1744. Post 50234483 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 20, 2019, 12:26:48 AM

https://www.deribit.com for options

Haven’t used them. DYOR.  
Oh, right, I remember you already told me so. I checked them a few months back and I was afraid/didn't bother to pursue further, but it might be worth to pay them another visit.

Thank you.
+1 WOsMerit (I'm out).



1745. Post 50240607 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: 600watt on March 20, 2019, 06:17:13 AM
Not sure if anyone reported about this but you probable should check it out.  Cheesy

https://dnafriend.com/


Better read the fineprint and dont touch this:

https://dnafriend.com/fineprint

Quote
By submitting your DNA Friend sample, you forfeit all claim to future organisms assembled from your DNA.

holy fuck! first they clone you and then they say the new you is not yours but theirs?  Cheesy

Have you actually read the fine print until the end?  Wink



1746. Post 50240738 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Back to our btc offtopic, we just had a gust of turbolence on small volume. Rehearsing the weekend - which, as we know, begins on Thursday?



1747. Post 50258325 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: serveria.com on March 21, 2019, 04:09:08 PM
Holy freaking shit what a freaking shitshow did I miss? Wasn’t planning to see the annoying $3xxx again... arrrgh

Not picking on you, just quoting your post for general sentiment.

C'mon guys, it's just a small dip, less than 100 bucks. My diagnosis is futures expiration shenanigans. We'll be fine. And even if we went down into the 33xx area, which I doubt, it would only mean we can get moar at a hefty rather than small discount.



1748. Post 50270949 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 22, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
Is it just me or are we experiencing a mirrored version of what happened in front of $6000?

$btc


via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/cryptoxhunter/status/1108805871805612032?s=21

Anatomy of a macro-bart.

+1 WOsMerit Smiley



1749. Post 50271009 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 22, 2019, 01:11:39 PM
Btw.....

Missing many regulars @WO  Sad

Where are you HODLers

Here and hodling fast. Waiting for fresh fiat to grab moar  Cool



1750. Post 50288301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 23, 2019, 09:44:13 PM
If it lasts that long I'll eat my hat.
Eat your dick or GTFO. We're spoiled.



1751. Post 50293692 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 24, 2019, 07:52:45 AM
^
There is no problem in being married, in my case 29 years.
The best, now I have a son Bitcoiner.

Quiet Mic..., you do not decide when you get married, your GF decides it. Wink

So true  Grin
+1 WOsMerit.



1752. Post 50297519 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 23, 2019, 08:49:18 PM
It's not Sunday yet.
Fuck off and leave me alone.
Too busy drinking.

Best of the bunch for now :-)



1753. Post 50439330 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Still in catch up mode. 70 pages behind. This is getting tiring, guys.
I turned my head a minute, and the corn was like 5k. Wut??  Cheesy



1754. Post 50521432 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

However hard I work to catch up, I'm always stuck at ~70 pages behind.



1755. Post 50521675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: nutildah on April 04, 2019, 05:54:06 PM
we talking BTC nodes here or lightning?

I was just trying to get a count of WO members who ran their own nodes, with or without Lightning.

A bitcoin node and a lightning node (no channels open).



1756. Post 50521792 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 04, 2019, 03:47:14 PM
Still unanswered: How LN is going to help when Layer 1 is already clogged to the point of uselessness.

We will cross that bridge when we get there.  

If this price pump continues, we could get there next week. Unfortunately, there is no solution on the horizon under discussion.

And, get the fuck out of here with your exaggeration that there is no plan in BTC..

OK, JJG. Tell me what the plan is to deal with the fact that once blocks are persistently full, then average fees rise uncontrollably, average wait times raise uncontrollably, LN channel openings and closings get economically prohibitive, and number of new entrants gets hard-capped.

What is the plan, JJG - what is the plan?
The blocksize will be increased when necessary. Double the size, double the transactions. Not yet, though. The possible benefits are still outweighed by the risk of spam, which we all have seen. We haven't seen persistently full blocks eyt, though. So that's why it hasn't happened yet.

Besides, daily use of LN for a vast majority of transactions might make it less necessary to open and close channels frequently. And bulk channel openings have been in development for a while already. Some are well past the proof of concept stage (alpha,beta, testnet? I'm not up to date on that ATM).

Schnorr sigs are coming. They improve on-chain privacy, save block space, and they will make coinjoin-like transactions easier - including aggregation of LN channel open/close operations.

All this might not amount to a detailed plan, but it does look like a friggin' good approximation in my opinion.




1757. Post 50525959 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: somac. on April 08, 2019, 12:09:42 AM
I can't agree enough. What kind of sickness is it for people like roach, stolfi, jbreher, etc to come here and spout their non-stop garbage
I wouldn't bundle jbreher with stolfi. And The Roach is just on another plane of existence.



1758. Post 50525985 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 08, 2019, 12:37:02 AM
They will probably just reuse LN channels and just settle them regularly. With enough transactions, maybe they would be settling those channels hourly...

Settled? You mean become actualized on the Bitcoin chain?
Yes, ...

Ohkaaay.... If the average channel is settled on chain hourly, then given current block size, you have limited the Lightning Network to about 20,000 channels. Not users, channels. IOW, I think you might want to work on your hypothetical scenario.


Your way of "sanitising" quotes, cutting here and there makes it loses all context.

I was talking about a future scenario where Bitcoin has been massively adopted just to show how it would be possible and how L2 would play a key role on it.

As I said, we would be talking about one settlement for each thousands of L2 tx's. Also, not all opened channels would be of global payment processors needing a more frequent settlement. Also we would be talking about hundreds of millions daily higher layer tx's. If someday Bitcoin would reach that level of massive adoption it will be gradually adapting to it. And yes, it will be having some blocksize increase along the way, as needed to accomodate the usage from higher layers.

We are not already there. So you can't use future usage numbers with current limitations. That makes no sense. I was just showing that it will be possible to scale MASSIVELY without an accordingly LINEAR blocksize increase... which seems to be the choice of other coins... and that's not SCALING.


Wish I had a merit for you.
+WOsMerit



1759. Post 50526409 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Thank you @mic and @VB! It does feel good to know that peeps have my back.  Cool

Welcome back Torque and... uh... ROSEWATER! Is that real? This must be the most bullish thing I've seen in the last few weeks. Take care, Mayor. We want to see you sparkle like Laurent-Perrier at the Party. It's being moved up, I hear.



1760. Post 50526658 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 08, 2019, 05:35:46 PM
Let me get this correct, you did advocate for larger blocks, but now you don't. You changed your mind.

You are incorrect. My advocacy has always been for no protocol-determined block limit.
Quote
What you really want is a "dynamic block size", that Miner's will set themselves, be it Small (80kB) or Large (8GB), doesn't matter.

Absolutely. Now you seem to have caught up.
I see where you're at, but I have a problem with the "bankers" (miners) being able to set technical parameters without the users' (user nodes) consent. What I expect miners/bankers to do in such a situation is to build taller entry barriers. Such as enlarging the block size even without immediate financial reward - that is, even if their profit doesn't change or even dips marginally. This would discourage new users from running full nodes.

I know your opinion that "fully validating user nodes", or whatever you call the non-mining nodes, add no value to the network. I beg to differ. They can and will ignore malformed blocks. They verify. And "verify don't trust" is probably the strongest of bitcoin's values. When that verification goes away, we - the bitcoiners, including yourself by your own definition - are going to have to fall back to trusting the "bankers".

That's why I am unable to understand the philosophy/motivations behind your stance. You are definitely not stupid, either, so I guess that's why many regulars here can't attribute your posts to stupidity and instead bet on malice.

TL;DR When larger blocks are really needed by the users, we will get them.



1761. Post 50527460 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: fillippone on April 09, 2019, 10:18:46 AM




BULL-market officialy started .... good old China-FUD, is this the good old days back again?  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

This perfectly adds to the usual old scheme:
China buying gold in anticipation of Yuan devaluation, and banning Bitcoin because wants to prevent capital outflows.
2015 cycle is not repeating only in prices, apparently.


Sharp filippone.
+1 WOsMerit





1762. Post 50536289 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 10, 2019, 01:38:44 AM
Trouble in the henhouse. A new way to multiply very large numbers together has been discovered

https://www.sciencealert.com/mathematicians-just-discovered-an-astonishing-new-way-to-multiply-numbers-together
As long as they can't unmultiply them (factor the product)...



1763. Post 50546599 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 10, 2019, 05:25:38 PM
Every big government will be targeting them if Bitcoin spikes up enough.

I'm a bit perplexed about rumors I've been hearing that (((someone))) was the $100M market buy that caused this FOMO.

As a Bulgarian, I am well informed about this issue and I can assure you these coins will not be sold anytime soon. They are aquired with a joint action with FBI and are being locked by FBI, probably never to be released, since these coins are entirely made by criminal activity. The criminal group was acting in Bulgaria, hence the misinformation that the government has the coins.
Why would they get a foreign government to help them secure something like that? I wouldn't trust the FBI to not have a way to access those coins.

And why the market buy if it's confiscated coin anyway? The story as it is has too many dark spots.



1764. Post 50546644 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Gintonic and margarita?

Edit: a margarita without salt, of course. Salt is no good for the body.  Wink



1765. Post 50547800 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

I'll party poop a bit. My accurate SOMA analysis tells me it's too early for a real breakout. She'll tease our 6k's and drop back into the mid 5k's, leaving us all with a ruined orgasm. Or, let me express it better, a deferred orgasm.



1766. Post 50551557 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

I don't think JJG has ever been white knighted. If he actually hasn't, I'll take the blame for being the first.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 11, 2019, 01:38:02 AM
Bitcoin no doesn't have no closing bell.

Hello?  

See.. no one answered, which means, no closing bell in bitcoin.

herrow   daily candle jay....the daily candle....when it closes. are you with me son?


----------

Attention on deck!

There will be officially 5 and a 1/2 hours of extra FYJJG time added to this weeks Thursday. That is all.  Carry on.

Think different.

BTC does close.  

Repeat.

BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  BTC does close.  




O.k.  It's starting to sink in.  BTC does close.   Learn something new everyday.   Wink


See captain Toxic, he really tries hard. He can't help his style is the matter.

(EDIT: Thanks Retina. You saved me from being the first. +sMerit for the relief.)

On a separate, but related, note:

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 10, 2019, 09:20:06 PM
bullish feeling for next hours/weekend

Hopefully, I’m feeling really positive about the recent price action. I think anybody predicting that the bottom isn’t in yet is an idiot. There’s so much positivity around at the moment, I see nothing but bullish action for the forseeable future.

Call me an idiot, if you will.

I am not quite there yet...

I prefer calling myself a lagging indicator... and conservative, too.  Rings better in my ears and for my ego.   Cheesy Cheesy

I am getting closer and closer to believing that we have transitioned into a bull market.. but not quite there, yet.   Cry Cry  Sucks to be me.

I'm with Jay on this one, but not on a whim: there are deep SOMA reasons. I need time to adjust. Lagging indicator nails it.



1767. Post 50551660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

See the red wick on last quickbart's trailing edge? I used it an an entry point for a half-assed long. I'm off the bandwagon.



1768. Post 50551689 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 11, 2019, 01:52:38 AM
We do bitstamp in these parts.. Hadn't you received the memo..?

Who's 'we'? Do you have worms?

Mic's games have as much authority as anyone else's, for one. Or two, three or more - depending on the team's size. So it's not a Kwisatz Haderach thing.



1769. Post 50551756 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Wimpy stop in place, puny profit safe. She's good if you don't ask her too much, too shamelessly.



1770. Post 50560332 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

5k breached.

I'd hoped the pullback would come a little later, I mean after flirting with the 6k, but all in all it's still more or less as expected.



1771. Post 50565573 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 11, 2019, 08:31:03 PM

I am working on something like this, for the monthly statistics of the current year in this format, I will improve the presentation, and historical statistics in an quote format.

Ok?

Maybe you could show % change in posts and % change in price.  That might make it easier to compare

If it is an option to contemplate.

From what I see, you are the only one interested. Cheesy

Thx, HM
Not quite. I was nodding in silence to keep the noise floor in check.



1772. Post 50565766 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 11, 2019, 10:58:17 PM
A purported black gay man

That is unkind Jay. We have no reason to think Bob is anyone other than exactly who he says he is.
Do youn't? It's just internet persona. We know it's a team, even if no show off with audio wavs clinking garbage collection or pics of ball caved steel blocks - like some other peep team post exotic islands, food porn and digital hat displays.

Sorry for english, my today subsitute copy editor not very proficient.



1773. Post 50565826 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Pity our immaculate gentleman snubs haikus.

Am I one on here?
On here, everything I do
throbs with purity.



1774. Post 50578807 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

No volume. A coiling dragon?



1775. Post 50607350 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

I also though Elwar had got some kind of clearance from the authorities down there. The situation sounds like deep shit. I agree the Thai government isn't going to do anything drastic as incarceration/death penalty trial if the heroic couple beats it quickly. The issues are cost and unconvenience. Is it sane, or even possible, to settle with the seastead 200 miles off the coast? A sensible "what do I know" analysis tells me it's still in alpha stage, beta at best.

What's more, I suppose that now those two names are on some sort of blacklist, so it might be even wise to consider Thailand an unfriendly region.

I wish you good luck. Keep us posted, Elwar!



1776. Post 50613377 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

I'm hoping for some news from Elwar. They're going to fucking steal his home, but at least I'd like to know he's free and safe.



1777. Post 50617956 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 15, 2019, 04:37:04 PM
Yeah, I dunno. I could see the state dept sitting this one out on 'challenge to any state authority' grounds. It's not going to be high profile stateside, so they can probably take a flyer without any public notice.

If he's blacklisted - as I assume he is - he can't fly from Thailand, but must cross some land border. At least he's a USA citizen, so I don't think the Thai government wants to get into a fight over him. I see a bigger problem for his gf (unfortunately not protected by wife status), who is Thai and could get to be used as an eloquent example.



1778. Post 50637671 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

She's drifting up. We're in for interesting days one way or another.



1779. Post 50637724 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on April 17, 2019, 03:21:36 AM
I don't think these exchanges care at all about bad actors or scammy projects.  I really do think bribe money has been going around to get SV delisted, Ver might be throwing around money to them.

What have you done with JJG?  He is MIA for days and you have his hat  Shocked

This hat stealing thing is no good and should be set straight. 33bitcoin, please...



1780. Post 50648243 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

As BoB would put it - SHEEEIT!

I knew a blacklist was coming. I'm surprised the hunters made it public. Well, it was just obvious anyway - or it could be to make a statement. The worst problem isn't immigration ATM, but emigration if you get my drift.

Quote from: Phil_S on April 17, 2019, 01:09:19 PM
Damn it.

Manhunt launched

Quote
“We are continuing our search for the couple,” he added.
Deeper shit. At least it seems they've not been apprehended yet.

Quote
Nadia on Facebook

Quote
Police went to my house 8 of them.. 2-3 times for the last 2 days and that makes my mom and my son scared of them. Just a kid and grandma please stop scaring them..
Last thing a government like that is worried about is scaring an old lady and a child. They could even be used as leverage in the unlikely event Thailand wants to get to the bottom of the matter rather than, as I think, just send a message.

I don't think they're on a plane to safe lands yet. Getting out of that banana kingdom will take some ingenuity. At least, as someone said, Elwar is a clever MF, so hopefully with a bit of luck they might make it - and stay far from Thailand until the next revolution.

(Quotes snipped for brevity - check the OP for more info.)



1781. Post 50648375 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: cryptjh on April 17, 2019, 04:47:23 PM
The bitcoin charts now look like a chart from a trader textbook, the chart looks exactly like a Bump-and-Run Reversal Bottoms

https://twitter.com/thalamu_/status/1117570774179598336
$BTC. Literally a textbook BARR bottom. Hint: This means bears are fucked.

 





More about Bump-and-Run Reversal Bottoms

http://thepatternsite.com/barrb.html


Bitmex BTCUSD swap chart hmm... any tape painter at work? Artie, is that you? Tongue

OK I'm just being nasty.



1782. Post 50648503 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 17, 2019, 06:32:49 PM
Genuine question -

If the value of one bitcoin became astronomically high one day & there was a state or island somewhere that was strictly bitcoin only as a monetary transfer of value would you emigrate to there?

It’s something I’ve long thought about & I most certainly would to be honest. It’d be great to live amongst like minded people.

 
It would have prices like Switzerland. IOW, living amongst like minded people is likely to cost an arm and a leg  Cheesy



1783. Post 50664817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 18, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
https://www.scribd.com/document/406751578/Craig-withdraws-the-fake-email-from-Uyen-because-he-was-caught


https://twitter.com/nikzh/status/1118899374027878400
Whoops! $BSV has experienced yet another reorg, this time 6 (six!) consecutive blocks were orphaned (#578640–578645), this chain included a 128 MB block #578644 🤦‍♂️ The network was basically stuck for 1.5 hours, and this shows that even 6 confirmations are not enough 🤷‍♂️
Satoshi had very bad vision, poor guy.



1784. Post 50666088 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: DaRude on April 19, 2019, 12:59:55 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.

Pull a Vitalik? Non debemus, non possumus, non volumus.



1785. Post 50671863 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 19, 2019, 12:04:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/aQX7O7S.gifv

GREAT NEWS! I got contact from Chad Elwartowski (AKA Elwar) via PM earlier this morning notifying me that he and his girlfriend have been able to escape to nearby Vietnam via boat. They are in good spirits, but still are not out of the woods yet as they still need to leave the region for fear of local intergovernmental relations leading to his potential extradition back to Thailand. As a result for their own safety they will not be posting again until they are home, but he wanted me to thank all of you on his behalf for your kind words and well wishes, and said he hopes to be back on the forum posting soon. He didn't give me much other information for obvious reasons, but at least we know he has made it out of the country, which is very good news. Hopefully we can help bring awareness to this issue so others do not find themselves in a similar situation in the future. Godspeed Elwar.

Relieved. Now, let's not jinx it until the Elwars are back to a safer place. I will LOVE to hear their story from the horse's mouth.



1786. Post 50681465 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

I feel the need to award some WOsMerit, with friendly permission from Toxic.

Quote from: bitserve on April 19, 2019, 07:40:33 PM
I can spray my balls myself though.

+2, the whole story was a gift.


Quote from: gentlemand on April 19, 2019, 08:17:56 PM
Hello my new home!
If anyone wants then you can join the yobit signature campaign: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/
Cannae wait.


+1.




1787. Post 50681573 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 19, 2019, 10:04:04 PM
Also a nut eater

Arthropods from trees
nut eaters against nut crabs
ethanol itching





1788. Post 50696539 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Is she moving or is this just another random fluctuation?



1789. Post 50696589 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 20, 2019, 11:05:10 PM
Anyone else find it odd that the last bubble topped out at such a low price?
well

I failed to sell
It wasn't just you  Undecided



1790. Post 50697244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

I also voted no. More than ready to be proven wrong, of course.

Is the bottom in? Well maybe, but a ~1k fall on the way to 6k can't be ruled out, as someone (Jojo?) said a few pages back.



1791. Post 50740661 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: fabiorem on April 22, 2019, 06:11:50 PM
Second attack on 5400?

Not going to succeed, I presume.
So would you say it is not an optimal time to 80x long?

I'm not a trader...

Yeah, I see folks talk about leverage, but I still have no idea what that is, nor how it works.


Leverage is when you take a loan to buy more of the asset than you can.

A bit more precisely, to buy or sell more of the asset than you can - that's also called going long or short respectively.



1792. Post 50740722 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 22, 2019, 07:38:54 PM
Great interview on the What Bitcoin Did podcast: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/peter-rizuns-lightning-critique-fud-or-fair

I assume a number of you will summarily dismiss this, rushing to judgement before examining the evidence. But for the open-minded, certainly worth a listen.

Anyhow, I guess we keep coming back to the general idea that it will be fine in the future!.. The technology will be there to support Bigger Blocks and Massive Database (but in the future it will be considered small). We will have cheap 1000GBit connections to link everyone together and 80TB hard drives! Moore says so!

The same can be said for LN and Layer 2 solutions. The developers are working on a solutions for this and that. A different Layer 2 solution will be available soon and so forth.

But which would you bet on? Something that is developing and evolving right before our eyes or relying on Moore's Law?

Moore's Law isn't as good as it used to be - since a few years already.

(Quotes snipped for clarity.)



1793. Post 50740809 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on April 22, 2019, 10:45:51 PM
^ sir, ty



Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
Challenge accepted

the bottom is in:

45% Last of the V8s

WO prediction challenge accepted. Everyone please accept the challenge, quote, and add your percent certainty.  

Bottom is in.

98% Lambie Slayer

I voted for a 80-85% chance that the bottom is in. The vote is based on a very sophisticated, proprietary SOMA data mining algorithm.



1794. Post 50741291 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 23, 2019, 01:41:09 PM
I've got a spreadsheet already worked up with sell point intervals all the way from here till $1MM (and I'll still have a small stash even at that point) ..  63K is just the point where I've sold enough that I can reallocate the proceeds into a diverse portfolio and be able to live comfortably off of a 4% withdraw rate...  

At this point, the plan is set...
Fortunately, I'm one of those personalities that I can follow the plan, and have no regrets later about "what if I'd have just...."  

Figure everything out now, and just sit back, relax and go on autopilot..  

Also, read the WO thread to keep up to date, and for entertainment value...  this got me through the 2017 bubble without losing my mind, it should work again Smiley

Can somebody do me a favour & Merit siggy_77 please. I’m out atm!

Sure. I'd have merited him myself actually, so I still owe him one, kind of.



1795. Post 50741381 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Phil_S on April 23, 2019, 02:45:47 PM
Despite previous info, maybe they are not out of danger just yet.


The press might just be lagging behind, as it often happens.



1796. Post 50741424 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Hueristic on April 23, 2019, 03:26:24 PM
Despite previous info, maybe they are not out of danger just yet.



VAdm Sitthiporn Matkasem ...

I read "shittiporn" and for a moment thought it was a friendly nickname for an infamous coprophile.



1797. Post 50757996 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

It feels bumpy right now, but it's kind of a scalper's paradise (while it lasts).



1798. Post 50774592 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quite the swift hiccup, gents. Down like 85$ in just a few mins.



1799. Post 50774670 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

...and more.

Edit - ugly?



1800. Post 50774727 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

5k broken while the orchestra plays on



1801. Post 50775008 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

@LoyceMobile even worse than that elsewhere.



1802. Post 50775409 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 25, 2019, 12:53:58 PM
Would you buy yourself a bottle of that kind of alcohodl?

Problem is, you can not drink bitcoins to get drunk LOL

But you can eat them


@Psycho, do you know what those pretty BTC pills actually contain?


Quote from: DeathAngel on April 25, 2019, 12:55:44 PM
Haven't done ecstasy since I was about 21. I'm too old for that shit now, the come downs are horrendous.

I've done MDMA 4 times in my life, spaced months and years apart. Hadn't lost the "magic" yet last time I tried, over 4 years ago. Waiting for the right occasion to roll again.

All in all, I'd recommend having at least one taste to anyone with an open mind who hasn't ever tried. Do the right stuff (Good Golly Miss Molly), do it at the right time, and do it with the right people. Just preload a bit and never mind the blues.



1803. Post 50775724 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 26, 2019, 12:07:54 AM
If they were grinding their teeth that wasn't the right stuff.
Why not? MDMA does have bruxism as a side effect.

Quote from: gentlemand on April 26, 2019, 12:08:21 AM
I've known a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. I don't think it should be as readily eulogised as it is by all and sundry after staring into a few pairs of eyes that were basically rendered empty by them.

Shit happens, but some folks are just begging for it. I'm sure a normal dose of, say, L, couldn't do that to a normal guy.



1804. Post 50796835 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 27, 2019, 02:44:14 PM
Sheeeit.
We're going below $5k, aren't we ?  Cry

Meh.

Disregard.

Looks like support has held, and we're now in the waiting period before hitting $6k.

Keep on hodling, brothers.
I suspect the ups&downs are not over yet.



1805. Post 50802602 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

I see you again
volatility, my old friend
the sounds of scalping.



1806. Post 50802730 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: rebal15 on April 27, 2019, 08:02:23 PM
Why do holders care about pump if They were holding for long time???
Holding long time, no change fact that if value pump double, holder double rich.
We say hodler, it's slang.



1807. Post 50802825 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

@roach
nom nom nom



1808. Post 50802928 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 27, 2019, 04:47:59 PM
Wow!!!!!



jojo and Searing are dee same peep.

That's Team #2! Now for the next one?





1809. Post 50803435 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 27, 2019, 09:22:45 PM
yeah...I got a really bad feeling about the coming weeks

Pussy.

I'm doing an extra morning set of 10 reps with my titanium plates. I feel no pain. The only way is up.

Please let me suggest you to add some cologne spraying between each rep for full endurance training.
From the horse's mouth. Duly merited now. WOsMerit alone couldn't pay justice to crabs and stuff.



1810. Post 50808948 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on April 28, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
bitfinex - bitstamp spread increased to $330 and it's still climbing

USDTUSD is also increasing on bitfinex.

bitfinex bitcoin: 5525
bitfinex tether: 1.0352

can someone try to explain this? Should not the tether price dump with all this tether fud?

something weird is going on, I smell dynamite. bitcoin will bart up soon.

Tin Foil Hat - Customers are dumping tether for Bitcoin and withdrawing the Bitcoin. Bitfinex execs, to slow this bank run down and avoid prison for a few more months, are selling customers Bitcoins behind their back for tether to pump up the tether price and stop Bitfinex Bitcoin price from getting to high. This will work until they run out of coins which may not happen. In that case they would hope to spend years behind the scenes slowly replacing customer funds with profits and pretending like nothing ever happened until some regulator sues them.
 
Lambie at his finest. +1 WOsMerit!



1811. Post 50809031 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on April 28, 2019, 02:57:58 AM

Please let me suggest you to add some cologne spraying between each rep for full endurance training.
From the horse's mouth. Duly merited now. WOsMerit alone couldn't pay justice to crabs and stuff.



No offence meant, Captain! I love me some fine WOsM alright, i's just tha' the peep bitserve is on his way to legend and could use some standard, boring sMerit too. Besides, the crabs/balls/alcohol thing was one of the best features round here recently.



1812. Post 50809088 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

On a more serious note, I want to hear it all from Elwar once the dust has settled.



1813. Post 50809331 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 28, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
But let's just clarify that it was not crabs
Don't take the tree crabs out of the story please!
I'll pretend I didn't read that.



1814. Post 50809518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: rdbase on April 28, 2019, 01:40:35 PM
But let's just clarify that it was not crabs
Don't take the tree crabs out of the story please!
I'll pretend I didn't read that.
Haha! Cheesy

Also I think the guy on your hat dies first in the episode tonight for got. Embarrassed
He's the quintessential expendable character indeed. We'll see.



1815. Post 50816060 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 28, 2019, 04:05:29 PM
Jimbo, toronto.
I do try, rarely succeed.
Now go get those teeth.

Merit source request.
Eligible let hope so.
Thanks for the support.

Rarely, but still... you snatched the last one out of my hands ;-)



1816. Post 50816256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: encycrypto on April 28, 2019, 06:56:12 PM
Im Antlitz der aufgehenden Sonne
Stand ich frühmorgens da
Mein Leib voller süßer Wonne
Und güldene bitcoins im Haar

Not sure what the fuck this says but it's not a half page of quotes and fighting.

It also includes Bitcoin
+1 smerit

Afdxfsfc ATH ttsxytd
Lugghgtg moon fyyfcde
Ghytfdefg bitcoin gytfgrrh
Kiyhgfg soon hiyhbg


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh
Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl
fhtagn bitcoin.



1817. Post 50821086 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on April 29, 2019, 05:05:33 AM
I think the secwit was implemented in order to prevent the translation of already signed transactions from Satoshi's wallets

a small block at same reason, it was necessary to create a valid cause of secwit

if increase the block, you will have to cancel the secwit, so bitcoin does not want to leave the small block

Nothing in segwit prevents Satoshi from moving any coins. Non-segwit transactions are still 100% possible. It would be good for you to read about segwit before spewing clueless arguments.



1818. Post 50821145 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

WARNING

Quoting the Roach below!


Giving ignorers a chance
to skip it.


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Quote from: realr0ach on April 29, 2019, 09:03:57 AM


Sorry for quoting the Roach, guys, but this may be worth a laugh. I was (passive-aggressively) amused.



1819. Post 50821309 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on April 29, 2019, 11:02:09 AM
A ridiculously early good morning Bitcoinland. Sorry but 7:00AM is past my usual bedtime. Gawd I hate farmers' hours. Sitting at the airport waiting for my plane.

We seem to be continuing sideways... currently $5209USD/$7015CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully by the time I fly back up with my new teeth and lovely young girlfriend Bitcoin will be up over $6k. I'll have to buy some dollars when I get back. Taking down bucks I bought when Bitcoin was over $5.5k. This barely over $5k crap is bullshit.

Go Bitcoin go.

If you could just hide the fact you're going south, Jimbo...!  Angry

Anywayz, when you get back to Toronto, the corn will sure notice and get back up with you.  Wink



1820. Post 50823311 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Globb0 on April 29, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
Some calculations on the value of bitcoin based on time and effort expelled

(sensible calc snipped - refer to OP)

So there is the answer to how into BTC is roach?

The answer is $ 16,396.88

+1 WOsMerit Globb0!



1821. Post 50824405 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 29, 2019, 02:52:30 PM
You seem to be postulating some novel mechanism by which one can examine each transaction, and classify it as spam vs. notspam. Care to divulge your criteria?

We've been over this already haven't we.

Type 1. Legit transaction. The actor needs to move funds because the funds are needed to be elsewhere.

Type 2. Spam transaction. The actor wants to move funds for other collateral effects, such as clogging the queue.

I admit there is no easy criterion to tell one from the other onchain, after the fact.

Keeping blocks small shifts the balance in favor of Type 1, preventively.



1822. Post 50825668 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 29, 2019, 03:29:49 PM
Keeping blocks small shifts the balance in favor of Type 1, preventively.

By what mechanism?

By pissing off the spammers.



1823. Post 50826833 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 29, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
sell BTC and buy BSV, will equal in price

[img ]https://www.FULLofSHITand DESPERATE/x/WD9D77oj/[/img]
NO

BSV only one altcoin which can go in the direction opposite to the falling crypto market
Go fuck yourself

Even the Roach is occasionally able to deliver more engaging content, alev. Cut it. Thanks.



1824. Post 50829024 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Never been to Budapest myself - oh well, actually I have, but it was just half a day, passing through it. I didn't even sleep there. Is it a good place to go as a single guy? I wouldn't mind a few details and travel tips. I'm planning to visit it properly later this year.



1825. Post 50842515 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 30, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
Hodl Hodl announces Lightning support

https://twitter.com/hodlhodl/status/1123209397734400002

https://medium.com/@hodlhodl/hodl-hodl-announces-lightning-support-42cead7e4d5f

TL;DR Exchange site adds new "Lightning" mode w/ different UI colors.

TS;GM

In this case, they do hold the funds in the channels - a technical issue: multisig escrow isn't yet available on the LN. The user must "enter" (conjure?) an invoice and pay it to release the funds.

The old mode, on the main chain, is and will still be available. It's non custodial: they can't access the funds and they need user keys to do things.



1826. Post 50842565 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 30, 2019, 08:21:42 PM

ugh that fucking cringy design of the anonymous mask on the eagle, no thanks.
I think it blends just perfectly with minestrone and lentil soup. You're not supposed to actually eat it.

EDIT: Besides, the bird is holding a rocket and... what's in her right hand?



1827. Post 50842767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 30, 2019, 08:00:34 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/two-charged-with-running-shadow-banking-service-for-crypto-exchanges
ffs
https://archive.is/tEd0B was expecting these names Ivan Manuel Molina Lee, Amit Raz, Eitan Treger
from https://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/company/global-trade-solutions-ag-11780933651
but w/e man w/e


Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 30, 2019, 08:37:23 PM
des perles anales?

At least 0.5 WOsM each!
+1 WOsMerit.



1828. Post 50844601 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 30, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
This is the historical since the beginning of the thread WO:
+1 WOsMerit. Out of plain sM. Impressive job.
Anyone got a merit to spare here?



1829. Post 50859889 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on May 01, 2019, 08:37:52 AM
Capitalism just works.

Here is the obvious answer to censorship:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/30/youtube-algorithm-changes-negatively-impact-google-ad-revenue.html


What opponents of capitalism don't understand is that it is essentially a global voting mechanism. It's the closest we have ever gotten to democracy.
Voting with our dollars, that's the only real vote indeed. Which means politics is not where effective voting happens today. Mostly.



1830. Post 50859948 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 01, 2019, 03:18:37 PM
Hammer and sickle.
Laura' Larry tuition.
Five-thousand still holds!!

shortcut in Haiku for who wanna catch up 4 pages in 5-7-5

Cheers             (after all its a Sunday)
You had a few more good ones recently
I think you're starting to get haikus now Smiley
+1 WOsMerit



1831. Post 50873512 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: vroom on May 02, 2019, 09:25:59 PM
zbefr pbqr vf bhgqngrq
bayl ryqreyl pna ernq
fubhyq hfr ebg13 vafgrnq


Vs lbh ernyyl jnag
gb fnl fbzrguvat va guerr yvarf
znxr vg n unvxh



1832. Post 50881673 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 03, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
That boggles my mind too. There is a huge chance for this rally to fall apart without even reaching $7k. But on the other hand GoX bubble wasn't organic neither yet btc still mooned.

What if This finex thing sends BTC to $50k? All those printed tethers and people are using BTC to get out of it... Sounds a lot like GoX era to me.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I would be happy as fuck if it reaches $50k while I hold 6-7 coins.

I definitely do not expect this movement to be anything other than ultimate noise. If it did kick off a legit bubble that would be rather dispiriting indeed. I'll take it, but I'd also be running away from it.
I agree. I mean no 3k blabber. I smell the high 4k's around the corner, when this USDT fuckery* is done.

* (TM) owned by V8



1833. Post 50883496 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Masterluc on Telegram

Quote
I did tell you we'd be back here Smiley



1834. Post 50899965 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 04, 2019, 10:17:05 PM
Give us 10k now pump gods! Cheesy
I might be a little jaded, but it still looks like USDT FUD effect to me. There's nothing organic about it.



1835. Post 50907338 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: nutildah on May 05, 2019, 11:52:51 AM

Have a good Sunday and bring Some good Haiku, before I start trying.

Hmm. Vegan breakfast.
The dog looks a little sad.
Lots of fiber though.

Dog just wants some booze
eggs and I presume butter
that isn't vegan



1836. Post 50916558 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on May 05, 2019, 04:33:25 PM

You make some decent arguments here and there when you're not going on and on about Jews or PMs, so it really puzzles me how you fail to understand that metals are going the way of the dodo a generation or two down the road. Except that dodos will be brought back at some point.
I think his persona is actually a piece of work. My wildest and most likely guess is he's a mid-upper class urban jew.

1 He's familiar with relatively obscure details of (((their))) lifestyle/culture and successfully uses his knowledge as a counterfeit "I know my enemy".

2 His level of understanding in certain technical fields is higher than usually shows. What he writes up is not always google soup.

3 He feigns obtuse insensitivity by the use of repetitive patterns, successfully evoking schizoid psychosis.

1 suggests "Jew". 2 suggests middle/upper class education. 3. suggests sophisticated character management, at least at the cliché level.

I wager he often laughs when reading or posting.

Quote
And in the short-term Bitcoin clearly has the superior expected value even without riding the waves up and down.

Also, you keep running the same talking points. Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger. You are free to process and broadcast your own transactions or employ any number of the payment processors/accelerators.

He knows it and does have some coin for sure. Probably not as much as he'd like: always hungry for more, you know the type. Don't forget (((who))) he actually is.

Undeniably effective. He's one of the first participants I noticed and focused on when I came here as a newbie around 2013.

Roach, as in Mr. Samsa, hm? I guess he was a jew, too, as was Franz K.




1837. Post 50916685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 05, 2019, 06:29:33 PM
Hello higher highs.
Goodby obnoxious prices.
Finally sober!

Now you're getting about half of them crispy and tasty!

(I got recharged only 2 sM so must use wisely.)
 +1 WOsMerit.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 05, 2019, 04:52:04 PM

Anyway that's it for today. Sorry if those pics took a lot of space here.

 Wow kenzawak, that was an awesome tour.  I feel like I've done Tokyo over coffee Smiley  Thanks so much.  Merits when I get some Wink

You're covered! Merited.
(Only 1 left so use very wisely.)

(EDIT Hm, it looks like xhomerx10 and others already rewarded the post generously. Could have merited micg instead. Well whatever.)



1838. Post 50916761 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: rdbase on May 04, 2019, 10:31:39 PM
Your jaded because you were the first of the council to die in the great war. Undecided
What a way to die with a knife in the back saving samwell the coward.

No way Sam is a coward. He's a goofy ball of lard and not the most willing to engage, sure, but to each his own. He pulled off a few noteworthy stunts within and without the Watch. Don't touch my boy.



1839. Post 50917000 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Disclosure about my recent trading.

Bart up ~500$ paid my long very well, but I started shorting a bit too early, and profits more than vanished. Had to scalp my way up. The latest down movement (smaller) put me back on track, so overall I'm back into green.

Now I can either

(a) cash out pennies
(b) put a stop loss on the short (losing pennies on the up)
(c) open a long, ready to let it go at a loss provided the short improves.

I'm taking (c). If we go UP, my net position stays as it is. If we go DOWN, I'll let the long go at a loss a bit at a time, and pay a little penalty indeed, but as we go back to the low 5k's, I'm even better off than now.

I tried to set myself up in such a situation, and I more or less managed. This feels good, and it's not just about the extra corn I make. Of course some luck was involved, but less of it than I used to think as a newbie trader.

My fiat can be used to buy a little moar on this nice dip. It all adds up.



1840. Post 50917205 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

You didn't have to, but thanks. Just awarded Mic's haiku too.  Cool

And uh, I have a, uh, little request for you. PM sent.



1841. Post 50917278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 04, 2019, 09:58:48 PM


Classic V8. The sexiest pic seen by me YTD, here or anywhere else. Saved.

+1 WOsMerit for the smell.



1842. Post 50921547 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 06, 2019, 07:37:35 AM
Hello higher highs.
Goodby obnoxious prices.
Finally sober!

Now you're getting about half of them crispy and tasty!

(I got recharged only 2 sM so must use wisely.)
 +1 WOsMerit.


So they getting better? Smiley

They are IMHO! At times you just snap and manage to express the fact or feeling of the moment.

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 06, 2019, 07:48:26 AM
You didn't have to, but thanks. Just awarded Mic's haiku too.  Cool

And uh, I have a, uh, little request for you. PM sent.

Mmmm you wanna switch avatar/HAT? Smiley

Ehmmm... not that hard to guess is it?  Cool



1843. Post 50921558 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on May 06, 2019, 12:02:38 PM
A lemon tart



Oh man, that's some sexy tart!

Quite attractive indeed, but I'm still hoping for V8 to show us what a really sexy tart looks like.  Wink



1844. Post 50922554 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

@kenzawak

A few tips for vegetarian/vegan food in Tokyo


CAFETE, fairly central, Ryogoku/Asakusa
Only 13 seats. Lunch till 2 PM and coffee till 4 PM, then it closes.
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/989


Inochi no gohan Tsukifune
It is advised to reserve for vegetarian/vegan, take the Chuo line from Shinjuku (25 mins approximately)
Not too central maybe, but food and atmosphere worth the bother
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/1639


Manu Ku, in Tsukishima, vegetarian or vegan
closed on Wednesdays and Thursdays
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/1357


Himi Zutsuchi, in Higashi Ginza (metro Hibiya line)
Maybe a bit more costly, it's Ginza after all
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/946


Ki to Mizu to Tsuchi, in posh Omotesando
Pancake, cafe, casual Japanese cuisine
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/1725


Saido, in Jiyugaoka
Closed on Wednesdays
From Shibuya, Tokyu Toyoko line
https://vegewel.com/ja/restaurant/1656



1845. Post 50934750 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: ResidentTroll
you just open a single Lightning Network channel to them and it's the ONLY STORE YOU EVER SHOP AT for the rest of your life (your scenario where Lightning Network is actually useful).  Like I said, the whole channels bullshit is nothing but a vendor lock-in mechanism that would further the cause of corporate & banking monopolies.

Who's afraid of Amazon (or such) becoming a huge Lightning node? It would only be a Good Thing IMHO.

- More vendors - be it retailers or other kinds of business - would have to jump on the train. This would ignite LN adoption like few other events could.

- The advantage gained by Amazon as a retailer wouldn't be as big per se if others (every other business and their dog) jump on, but...

- You could send or receive funds to/from anyone who has their channel open with Amazon without opening a new ad-hoc channel. Connectivity and liquidity would go through the roof.

What I'm afraid would also happen as a consequence, though, is that governments would clamp on ramps in and out of the LN, at least for business activities over the radar line. LN transactions are too hard to trace and account: it's nothing like a public blockchain. So I suspect KYC/AML could become the real issue.

I guess we'll see...



1846. Post 50935266 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 07, 2019, 05:38:20 AM
7k tonight? Cheesy

Looks like you be in a process to rejuvenate some optimism, here?

We had witnessed a few hairy days, in which you had revealed some kinks in your BTCxxx BTCxxx armor.... hahahahahahaha

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Please sir, never a kink. Just thought the Baby Bull would have a healthy correction to 4200. Still think something of the sort is in the cards, but why not hit 7k first  Cheesy as the Bitfinex troubles keep pumping the price. Only a baby for 2 more days, May 8 is coming Grin

Although it looks like we're going straight up with no afterthoughts, I mostly agree with Lambie's view. Maybe 4.2k is starting to look a bit too far down, and the high 4k's are more likely as a correction target, but the gist of it is still valid IMHO.

Quote
Not a good day in court for Bitfinex they were denied their motion to vacate even though they had solid arguments. Kangaroo court appears to rule the day. I suspect we keep pumping hard as bulls are taking advantage of desperate customers paying a premium to pull out their Bitcoin, then when everyone who really wants out is out, we correct.
This. The volume is still quite tentative, with the occasional plump burst.

Quote
No way in hell is this Bull market ending rn though. This party will last years imo.
We're already in party rehearsal mode, man  Cool



1847. Post 50937037 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: toknormal on May 07, 2019, 01:14:37 PM

Bitconifer signalling a musical preference here:



Lets hope it doesn't follow up with more bearish one:



+1 WOsMerit for the clever and relevant references - Wayne in particular.



1848. Post 50937375 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Yeah, a brusque ~200$ drop. Just a hiccup or a signal? The next 6 hours are subcritical.



1849. Post 50950576 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

@kenzawak
Some of those places are on my to-do list. If you visit any of them, a few words would be appreciated.

And thanks for the merit!  Smiley



1850. Post 50951110 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: kenzawak on May 08, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
@kenzawak
Some of those places are on my to-do list. If you visit any of them, a few words would be appreciated.

And thanks for the merit!  Smiley

I'm already back home. I didn't have much time to check those out.
But if I do one day, I'll let you know.  Wink
Only thing I can tell you is about the first address you posted, well about the area where it's located. Ryogoku is where Sumos train. You can go watch one of their sessions in the morning (gotta reserve in advance though).
Nice tip about sumo training! I've never seen it live, but I did meet a wrestler once in the metro. His clean baby smell (talcum powder) could be felt from a distance through the crowd. I managed a photo with the baby hulk.

About restaurants - My first tip would have been about this tofu-only place with an impressive menu, outstanding quality and reasonable prices, but I can't recall its name or location. It was 10 years ago, who knows if it's even still there. I'd like to go there again though.

Quote
You're vegetarian too ? Vegan even ?
No, but I'm open, and I have a vegan day once in a while just for the heck of it. Serious vegans go against our own biology IMO.

I know it's quite hard to be a veg in Japan, they will slip animal products everywhere without a warning - you probably know their basic dashi broth, used in almost everything they cook, is made with small fish about 50% of the time.

Sorry I had to reply here. It's so unconvenient to discuss travel destinations and other pleasantries with all these people posting OTs about this bit dollar thing, or whatever it's called... why don't they go somewhere else?



1851. Post 50957318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Biodom on May 08, 2019, 07:13:07 PM

I read the above and still don't get the problem. What type of address was needed before sending to Bech32 and why was it unspendable? And how can it be unspendable if it is sent back to the company's wallet and thus "proves" it's an inside job?


My understanding is that if you send coins from address starting with '1' (legacy) to bech 32 address (starting with 'bc1'), then you might have difficulty spending the coins, although I am not 100% sure because Coinomi claims that in their wallet you can "upgrade" legacy account to bech32.
In any case, if you send from '1 to '3' first, then to 'bc1', it should be OK.
Read here:

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009746-what-are-default-compatibility-and-legacy-addresses-all-about-segwit-

Re sending back at Binance-it is a puzzle and if true (I did not check), then the whole thing is definitely their own error.
That guy at binance...I would not listen to one word outta his mouth one way or another any more.

The way I understand it, the problem isn't with the address, but with the wallet software. Not all wallets deal bith 'bc1' (bech32) addresses yet. Bech32 is supposed to be the new universal format after the segwit fork. Legacy (B2SH) non-segwit addresses begin with '1'. Legacy (B2SH) multi-sig addresses begin with '3'.

'1' addresses can only receive funds in non-segwit (old-style) transactions. '3' and 'bc1' can receive funds in segwit transactions too.




1852. Post 50967095 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 08, 2019, 09:31:54 PM

The way I understand it, the problem isn't with the address, but with the wallet software. Not all wallets deal bith 'bc1' (bech32) addresses yet. Bech32 is supposed to be the new universal format after the segwit fork. Legacy (B2SH) non-segwit addresses begin with '1'. Legacy (B2SH) multi-sig addresses begin with '3'.

'1' addresses can only receive funds in non-segwit (old-style) transactions. '3' and 'bc1' can receive funds in segwit transactions too.
eddie
um
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pay_to_script_hash and
https://blockstream.info/nojs/tx/b5927bc00f0fcf757d039be766a9903fb349b11aea1e8ed1edb8dc189d0b19e5?expand

Ooops, misspellings and mixups - legacy addresses ('1') are P2PKH, multisig/scripted addresses ('3') are PS2H.

P2PKH, bc1
the mess I made sure ain't no fun
I thank you V8
for setting me straight
you sharp & quick son of a gun!



1853. Post 50967297 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

https://coinrivet.com/blockstreams-liquid-network-goes-live-on-bitfinex-with-bitmex-integration-coming-soon/



1854. Post 50968943 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Banana kingdom
couldn't capture seasteaders
Nadia and Elwar



1855. Post 50972906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Killed defending Samwise, ok, shit happens when you deal with the undead.
But why did they have to burn the fucking body once the blue eyes were defeated?
Long story short, I just need to change my hat.


But look look, see what the cat brought in!

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 09, 2019, 06:58:19 PM
How about this one?

 

avatar-sized

 

take care
Xhomer

I am delighted Smiley Smiley Smiley



1856. Post 50980495 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

It looks like Lambie got it right with the baby-to-adult thing. He started talking about it long ago. IMO that's long enough to deserve some juicy title such as Bull Prophet or something.



1857. Post 50984284 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 10, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
https://decryptmedia.com/6966/bitifinex-blockstream-liquid
https://twitter.com/Federico_Xmas/status/1126520181168254976
Quote
Just tried transferring BTC from @TheRockTrading to @bitfinex using @Blockstream Liquid, the transaction was executed and confirmed in less than 5 minutes, and best of all the amount is confidential to outside observers. Congrats to both exchanges and all other people involved 👏

One of the gifts offered by Lightning and other Layer 2 technologies, often overlooked by both supporters and detractors.

Huge increase in obscurity, in the league of privacy coins.



1858. Post 50987765 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Nasty stop hunt on bitmex (spike down)



1859. Post 50988915 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

In my opinion, the best way to deal with some nuisances is to ignore them (by forum options or targeted skipping), at least until they raise a point worthy of address. They might understand that relevance is what gets their posts read.

TL;DR No quoting, no replying unless granted by exceptional circumstances.



1860. Post 50995554 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 11, 2019, 06:09:54 AM
because both plugs are important
They are indeed, but to use two plugs you need two holes. I thought you were a guy.



1861. Post 51001468 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 11, 2019, 06:14:21 PM
23 viewers...epic launch.  Still pretty funny imho. Keep the humor and content high end and you guys have something very marketable. Thanks.

MCF short 01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FApS9DPsT8



I've goh mo' fuud than yo' entire country!
Still laughing.



1862. Post 51001687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: infofront on May 11, 2019, 07:05:36 PM
Is anyone else bored? I'm bored.

I definitely was bored/burnt out. I announced something of a temporary, partial retirement from crypto/this thread.

But with the current price action, I can't stay away. Fuck you bitcoin!

P.S.
Looking at the poll, I see I may not have included enough options. We may actually end up closing over $7,000. This was inconceivable when I put this poll up around 10 days ago.


Given her unpredictable temper, which we all know so well, maybe you could always include two catch-all options at the extremes: "lower than all of this"  "higher than all of this". What do you think?



1863. Post 51002399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: 600watt on May 11, 2019, 07:44:30 PM

the entire blockchain on your mobile phone? wow. let´s hope they sell a lot of them. good news!
They must have a different concept of a full node. Last time I looked, the block thingy was some 264 GB. Maybe a pruning node?



1864. Post 51004985 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Do time and day of this bull run tell us anything about the most likely immediate cause?



1865. Post 51005241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

1m and 3m charts have changed convexity. We might be out of the acute phase.



1866. Post 51005273 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: spiderbrain on May 11, 2019, 11:51:59 PM
Do time and day of this bull run tell us anything about the most likely immediate cause?
It looks like the price has been drifting up slowing until it hit 6k, which then moved into a feedback loop of short position liquidation and day trader FOMO. At some point all the short sellers will be dead and then the FOMO will flip.
I was thinking that a possible leak leading to market turmoil is more likely at certain times of day than others, depending on the source. And the weekend is a strange choice of day. So my post was intended to trigger some interesting backstage theory or tinfoil conspirationology.



1867. Post 51005290 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: becoin on May 12, 2019, 12:18:22 AM
1m and 3m charts have changed convexity. We might be out of the acute phase.

Acute phase has just started a month ago. It will last for the next couple of years!

Sure, as several prophets or pundits have pointed out here. I was talking about short timescales. Indeed only small ripples are left ATM.



1868. Post 51013108 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 12, 2019, 04:54:44 AM
Do time and day of this bull run tell us anything about the most likely immediate cause?
It looks like the price has been drifting up slowing until it hit 6k, which then moved into a feedback loop of short position liquidation and day trader FOMO. At some point all the short sellers will be dead and then the FOMO will flip.

Without paying a lot of attention, to me it seems the price drifts and then rallies strongly before the candle closes which is consistent with US evening trading.  

Combined with Coinbase price leadership, makes me think this is a US retail led rally.  Genuine organic demand.
That's the kind of answer I was looking for. But isn't it weird on a weekend?



1869. Post 51013234 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on May 12, 2019, 11:17:41 AM
this roach guy must be the saddest person on this forum seriously.
he must have sold at 500$ or even lower to accumulate more but couldnt get in again.
i wonder how he was feelin when it hit 20k.or yet how he will feel when it hits 40k. (which is inevitable)

really feelin sorry for him.there r hundreds of thousands like him;just waitng to get in if bitcoin ever hits 1k Smiley
the saddest part is they will wait for 500$ even if hits 1k Smiley means they can never get in.

The saddest part is, he could have simply used BTC to buy gold or silver if he wanted to. If he had taken advantage of the 2016-17 pumps, he would have ended up with so much gold/silver! That's the reason I suspect there must be a problem in the wiring of his brain... It's not sadness, it's stupidity...
I think it's actually a huge joke on us. The Roach isn't who we think he is.



1870. Post 51013422 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 12, 2019, 12:34:17 PM
Hahaha that’s about correct.

They make it really easy to use leverage on longing or shorting so that makes it appealing.  But it is a home of deep fuckery and the volume and order books are completely fake and their in-house trading team is front running trades.  Hard work to consistently make a profit there.  
... unless you stay under the radar with small trades.



1871. Post 51013535 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 12, 2019, 12:55:10 PM

I think Bitmex only trades derivatives, so it can't be considered as the real trading volume.

every exchange does market making to provide liquidity to the market. there is no possibility to differ between market making (by the exchange itself or other market making parties) and the "real" volume by clients of the exchange. only the exchange itself knows the real figures.

EDIT: the so called "wash trading" or "fake volume" on the exchanges is in fact market making which provides liquidity to Buyers and Sellers. but the Noobs don't really understand how the business is working and start to blame the exchanges.
Bitmex is only dealing in derivatives (paper coin). So they say they are only acting as middlemen and profiting from commissions. Every user short has a matching user long and vice versa. They are not taking sides! Don't you believe them?  Grin



1872. Post 51013904 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 12, 2019, 01:24:53 PM

I think Bitmex only trades derivatives, so it can't be considered as the real trading volume.

every exchange does market making to provide liquidity to the market. there is no possibility to differ between market making (by the exchange itself or other market making parties) and the "real" volume by clients of the exchange. only the exchange itself knows the real figures.

EDIT: the so called "wash trading" or "fake volume" on the exchanges is in fact market making which provides liquidity to Buyers and Sellers. but the Noobs don't really understand how the business is working and start to blame the exchanges.
Bitmex is only dealing in derivatives (paper coin). So they say they are only acting as middlemen and profiting from commissions. Every user short has a matching user long and vice versa. They are not taking sides! Don't you believe them?  Grin

BS!!  Grin

this would mean in times with low activity of clients you would have a massive gap in price between Buyers and Sellers.

EDIT: take a look at decentralised markets like Bisq (Bitsquare) and you can figure it out for yourself.
I guess they justify the absence of wide gaps by the market making commissions they pay to users adding liquidity to the book. I'm playing devil's advocate but not really defending them, because the verlakking is plain to see in times of turbulence.



1873. Post 51014875 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

^^ +1 WOsMerit to nutildah for a tasty haiku!

Keeping my last sMerit for a non-legend (or non-goose, cause he's already a legend at heart).



1874. Post 51014997 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Thanks WOBro Goose.



1875. Post 51015050 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

We lost 7k again.



1876. Post 51015730 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

It's not bitcoin. Crypto is dead.



1877. Post 51015966 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 12, 2019, 03:51:16 PM
Man that pamp was fun. Good for Bitcoin to flex those new bull market muscles and let everyone know that he can double the price whenever he wants.
He?  Shocked



1878. Post 51026927 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 12, 2019, 06:58:23 PM
Hahaha that’s about correct.

They make it really easy to use leverage on longing or shorting so that makes it appealing.  But it is a home of deep fuckery and the volume and order books are completely fake and their in-house trading team is front running trades.  Hard work to consistently make a profit there.  
... unless you stay under the radar with small trades.

And only use pre-set limit orders - never market orders or market stops...
Definitely. Their supposed huge liquidity has a habit of going into hiding just when it's most needed.

However, slippage is less critical for small trades.



1879. Post 51028206 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Phil_S on May 13, 2019, 07:27:51 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/how-to-predict-the-future/588040/

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(snip) The best forecasters, by contrast, view their own ideas as hypotheses in need of testing. If they make a bet and lose, they embrace the logic of a loss just as they would the reinforcement of a win. This is called, in a word, learning.
QFT and merited.

In other words: If you practice SOMA, keep your rectum elastic.



1880. Post 51028461 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: serveria.com on May 13, 2019, 11:46:34 AM
Ebay=paypal. They hardly will let BTC ruin Paypal's biz.

I thought they sold PayPal didn't they?



1881. Post 51029016 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 12, 2019, 10:22:47 PM
Agree with you there JJG, no $20,000 breach until at least 12 months, probably 18 months. Moon is in sight though & we’ll get there.

How many times did I hear we didn't where gonna see 7xxx this year ........ trying to predict the price is just impossible as just wastin e of time trying Smiley

F***  20K could happen in 1-2-3 weeks if BTC want it to be so!!! Cheesy

Closing in to HODLsleep

Yes she does whatever she wants, but she does have reasons, often hidden and obscure. Understanding and knowing her reasons can be the difference between a fortune and a larger fortune. Or the shores of Rektland.



1882. Post 51030745 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Kissed and passed 7.5k twice.



1883. Post 51037582 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: fabiorem on May 13, 2019, 03:58:49 PM
Was someone able to break TrueCrypt? It was discontinued in 2014 but it is used to this day. It is said that not even the NSA can decrypt it.
As far as I know, TrueCrypt was never broken, but the exact circumstances of its abandonment remain unclear. The latest version that was published was marked as a no-no by pundits because of the possibility of backdoors having been plugged in. There is an older version, still available, marked as safe. There is a project that was spun off, where development is still going on - or so it was last time I checked. The whole story is on Wikipedia.



1884. Post 51037737 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: MrFreeRoMan on May 13, 2019, 08:32:32 PM
et tu, brute?

 Cry

Indeed. They were either free or had negligible purchase costs so there was nothing on the line really. But I sure as shit did not expect them to brush the level they did or die with such conviction. The whole thing felt like an inter dimensional adjunct to my regular BTC business.

I'm fine if they don't come back. It's just more time. We'll see how manic things get in the next year or two. If they do run for the stars I'm offloading and not looking back.


With altcoin I lost x10! This is regrettable ...
I am waiting for some increase, and then well, fuck them

I made a good profit relentlessly shorting BCH in 2018.  Tongue  Tongue



1885. Post 51044680 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 14, 2019, 06:06:59 AM
Well bitcoin is in a great moment, we’re all happy WO’s. I’m off to Budapest, Happy Birthday to me Cheesy

Cheers gentlemen!





A trip to Budapest with your gf, the Reds soaked in glory, the corn going higher... I guess this really is a happy b'day for you!
I'd wish you 100 more, but with all our talk about rejuvenation and out of body brain support, I'd better make that 1000 Cheesy



1886. Post 51044798 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: toknormal on May 14, 2019, 09:02:18 AM
lol

anybody use WhatsApp?


If they really had privacy and security in their DNA, they'd make it open source already.



1887. Post 51046778 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: serveria.com on May 14, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FUDSTERS DON'T POST THIS BULLCRAP ANYMORE!!!  Cool

Even if the details and the reasons might be off by a long shot, I do think a correction is coming.

When and how big is anybody's guess, but it is due. No bull run went straight to the top, ever.


In other words

We smell a pullback
coming around the coner
bullcrap or bearcrap?



1888. Post 51047070 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 14, 2019, 02:27:09 PM
A short pullback really wouldn't be too bad of a thing.

I agree and I feel it coming.

It would be good because it would make the run fill more real, so to say. If we reach 10k tomorrow, would you feel safe? I wouldn't. And what if instead we struggle between 7's and 8's for a while, with a quick dip even lower? I would feel much better than the five digits are here to stay.



1889. Post 51047379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Trading disclosure. I have two positions: a suffering short and a happy long (larger).

When it goez UP, I gainz moar because the long is larger. Cash out a bit.
When it goez DOWN, I looze moar but can refill the long a bit. If DOWN DOWN, cash out shortz.

If it goes UP like mad, I'll close both positions and gainz.
If it goes DOWN like mad, my stop will save some long gainz and I hope to close my short in the green (or just a little in the red).

This is similar to a double ladder (JJG/jbreher), with lots of manual nursing and tweaking.

UP slightly better, so I can close everything at once and gainz are simpler. So as a trader, ATM I have a more or less neutral stance. And that's just about my play money.

As a hodler, it's easy to guess where I stand.



1890. Post 51048675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: mindrust on May 14, 2019, 03:30:39 PM
I believe as long as you set your target networth at something between $500k and $1m. You are in the safe zone. FIAT may become worthless in the next 10 years but $1m today still can unlock you many possibilities.

Don't bother with selling if you are going to get anything less than half a million imo. That's how I see it.

I think it's easier to pull off with a bit of graduality.



1891. Post 51049166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Updated bitcoind after a few days with no bad news.



1892. Post 51049181 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 14, 2019, 04:50:54 PM
How can this be, how have I woken up to anything but a 1k pump  Angry
She just felt like sneezing. It's nothing  Cheesy



1893. Post 51061126 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 15, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
Thx

A post from the Goose
Theymos finally dealt with it
monthly sMerits!



1894. Post 51062553 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

V8's posts are always worth of max focus.



1895. Post 51077399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 16, 2019, 04:02:08 AM
Call me an age scientist pessimist.

...

In short, boo hooo,  Cry   Cry  Bitcoins are not likely to buy either the power of youth or sufficient power to overcome likely degenerative aspects of aging..
Jay, for corn's sake!
It was just a greeting wish...  Roll Eyes



1896. Post 51077729 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 16, 2019, 10:38:46 AM
This is exactly the pull back I was expecting last night, I'm not feeling another pullback so I'm back into btc for the daytrade holdings.
This could be it, but it needs to hold here (below 8k) for a couple of days before it gains credibility as a real pullback as opposed to a random hiccup.

Quote
*This is all from my ass, no TA just as likely.
Seems like you and I are using the same technique  Grin



1897. Post 51077741 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 16, 2019, 10:45:48 AM
Next bottom is found:


I get me one of these when we hit 100k
I get me one of these and one of V8's.



1898. Post 51078068 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Phil_S on May 16, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
I get me one of these and one of V8's.

At the same time?



Not necessarily... but you did give me a nice idea, thanks Phil!



1899. Post 51084327 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 16, 2019, 06:20:32 PM
let's do both then

Thank you, kind sir.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 15, 2019, 12:46:30 PM


Quote from: ivomm on May 16, 2019, 10:42:42 AM





1900. Post 51087856 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Retina on May 16, 2019, 10:17:07 PM
Quote

(Attribution would be appreciated. Quotes are from https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/TPmcaIr2-Bitcoin-Has-Not-Even-Capitulated-Yet/ )

Quote from: Retina on May 16, 2019, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: Jefe Caan
Forget about the bottom, Bitcoin has not even capitulated yet.
Not about ivomm's or V8's selections anyway.

Quote from: Retina on May 16, 2019, 10:17:07 PM
Quote
You know what's perfect? I kept thinking where's the maximum pain scenario.

(Imagine being short BTC right now, what would this parabolic move have done to you. It's brutal.)
I do have short positions, and I'm profiting slowly and steadily. Close-hauled sailing, but still.

Quote from: Retina on May 16, 2019, 10:17:07 PM
Quote
Now let's talk about the bulls.
Many of them dream of cow bottoms.



1901. Post 51088030 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 16, 2019, 10:48:27 PM
Come on people, 'nance is about to open in 15 mins all being well



now is the time to focus

Time to make it official boyz.


via Imgflip Meme Generator

Ive been pondering a theory on an immaculate conception based on a vision I had(fully backed by science, charts and counting to 9 many times). It could be that this human booty gave birth to a BTCaby BTCull. This could be our Mother Mary full of grace and full of ass.
I had to award one more quote of this fine piece of photographic art. I like your {l,p}oophole theory of of baby bull conception as well as the usual tart bullish twang of your post. So Lambie it is!  Grin



1902. Post 51088054 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Wow. Now this is a spike. My short is smiling. Oops, what's left of it anyway.



1903. Post 51088224 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on May 17, 2019, 03:13:27 AM
That was some serious whale stop hunting fuckery  Grin
Impossible to enter new orders or tweak old ones on bitmex for like 20 minutes. It's wise to keep things set up in advance to make sure your ass is not too far from a chair when the music stops.

TL;WH

System overload
orders should be in order
fuckery incoming



1904. Post 51088309 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

@Toxic I'm a bit spoiled - sometimes I take your #dyor charts and captain mic speeches for granted. Now you got my last sM  Wink



1905. Post 51088405 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 17, 2019, 03:44:58 AM
$6200 would have been a nice long

Indeed. But I managed to have my short closed near the bottom, so I'm left with just a slice of my long (security buffer) that I intentionally left out of my stop. Would have reopened/added more from even lower than I had already prepared, but I didn't have a chance to place/modify the orders. Now that feels like fuckery. Like 20 straight minutes, FFS.

Jbreher duly reports Coinbase not affected. Then is it a unique flavour of verlakking, guacamole and nachos on the side, MEX style?

Quote from: jbreher on May 17, 2019, 03:44:03 AM
So any idea what triggered the dump? Coinbase volumes were up like 60x during the worst 15 min candle, But I can't tell if that was cause or effect. Didn't happen on my watch.
Clueless. I confide in a few of our fine analysts for some fine storytelling.

@jbreher, of course you can use or mention SOMA freely. It's open source anyway, as Hairy pointed out.



1906. Post 51088689 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: infofront on May 17, 2019, 04:35:16 AM
You left out Ryan X Charles.
BIG BLOCKER/bcash scammer names

I'm going to make sure you guys are seated next to each other at the 100K party.  Grin
@infofront please stop, I don't have any sM left.



1907. Post 51088864 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 17, 2019, 04:51:57 AM
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Someone crazy is pushing down bitstamp with a 2k btc sellwall... wow O_O
Now I hope they go after the shorts   Cool

P.S. Thanks for the refills Toxic!



1908. Post 51088961 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Hello Dr. Leibowiz, it's nice to see you again.



1909. Post 51093311 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on May 17, 2019, 10:24:27 AM
what's behind this insane dump?
Mr Mt Gox curator thinking its about time he did another sale?
It doesn't feel like him. Mr. Kobayashi always acted carefully as far as I remember, and he managed to avoid major price suppression.



1910. Post 51093726 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Globb0 on May 17, 2019, 12:00:31 PM
Crush some longs, stand by now as everyone moves to short

'xactly Globb0! I'm front running the trend again with my regrown long leftover, as I happened to do with my previously suffering (and eventually quite fruitful) short.



1911. Post 51102397 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):


Quote from: Roachenstein on May 18, 2019, 01:04:06 AM
You remind me a lot about the French author Houellebecq

Stop trolling, Cryptobimbo. 

Tasty. Thank you both.

@cryptoqueeen You engage him, you deserve him. But do we?

Well actually this time I think it was worth it. After the hardboiled opening, the script has detail and imagery, and jumps into the first person. Nothing like Molly Bloom, but still.

It seems to me she's among the few with talent for extracting the best from Herr Roachenstein.



1912. Post 51107921 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on May 18, 2019, 12:00:59 PM
Eagle's nest = mommy's basement. Huh
Get real.

It's just Mr. Roachenstein picking up the HodlREST/HodlSLEEP/HodlCAVE literary device introduced by micg. I actually think the Goose has made his way into our resident troll's mind, although in a subliminal way. As has the queeen, providing significant incentive to the intellectual jew hiding behind Gregor Samsa's body.

Net effect? The frequency of readable chunks of text from him has increased, and I actually enjoyed reading his reply to the Houellebecq reference. It was a great rendition of a flawed mind ruminating, with glimpses of personal life (the fake weeping was an endearing touch) and projections into a woman's point of view.



1913. Post 51108332 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: Millionero on May 18, 2019, 12:35:06 PM
Eagle's nest = mommy's basement. Huh
Get real.
Roach used the profits from his silver trading to go on this Rick Steves tour
https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/hitlers-eagles-nest-at-berchtesgaden

I like to see it in a staged, poetical way.

From the eagle's nest
a joking jew is ranting
he dreams of women.

Down the HodlCAVE
wild goose and queeen are resting
he dreams of poker.



1914. Post 51112248 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 18, 2019, 05:29:19 PM
Observing austerity in your meal.  Down to bread and water so soon?   

That water in the background is so dirty it looks suspiciously like a Kir royale  Wink



1915. Post 51112272 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Boring Saturday for a change? I can't get myself to believe that.



1916. Post 51128527 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: kenzawak on May 19, 2019, 03:35:48 PM
Congrats... 3 or 4 obvious trolls / alt accounts of roach and... you, the only one being serious here and meaning what he says. I guess that makes you the village idiot.

I disagree about those new accounts being roach alts. It's probably just emulation.
I do agree about the village idiot bit, though.



1917. Post 51129585 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 19, 2019, 08:28:15 PM
Consolidation in the $7.9k range continues to solidify our base of support for $8k and possibly further GAINZ towards the Vegeta arena.  

Increasing volatility is likely after the closing of the weekly candle.

Trading disclosure - closed all my positions, play stash yield 6%. That's a low figure. I could have made ~15% with volatility like this, but this time I've been playing it safe, never allowing my short leg to reach liquidatable leverage. I've overshot that threshold a little with the long at times, but even my long liquidation price never went below 3200.

Now the profits go to cold storage, and I'm ready for another round.



1918. Post 51131700 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 20, 2019, 12:12:49 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bitcoins-wild-ride-60-minutes-2019-05-19/
13 minutes. plus transcript for eddie
but quel dull
If that eddie is me, thank you! I do like transcripts much more than video or audio blahblah*.


Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 20, 2019, 12:09:09 AM
Bit of profit-taking on a good week. Then more long. Cool

I couldn't resist, either. As soon as my head cooled off after going flat, I placed a limit long under 8k, and it executed. So now I have a tiny long in the green. Stop limit will salvage a few satoshis if the worst happens.

* Except for the video of RV losing his temper and giving the finger to John Carvalho for calling bcash "bcash".



1919. Post 51136957 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 20, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
eg rn people earning a lot of usd by lending...
... specifically, by being short.

Actually the funding rate on bitmex isn't that high right now.
Specifically, it's 0.0336%. Expected value for next 8-hour period: 0.0265%. It's capped at something like +/- 0.35%.
When it changes sign and goes negative, it's shorts that pay longs.



1920. Post 51138116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Yep we're going down. 7750 as I write.



1921. Post 51138444 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

yes ~7.7k now



1922. Post 51139839 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: PaivanTreidi on May 20, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
It is interesting that this ETF thing is so important. This side of the pond I could have invested in crypto ETFs for years now... Nothing new...
AFAIK, Crypto ETFs are baskets of shares of selected crypto companies. I think a cryptocurrency ETF exists already, but it includes ETH and other shitcoins. The ETFs under SEC scrutiny would include btc only. What's more, some of them are designed for settlement in kind, not in cash (that is, bitcoin - not USD). The importance or usefulness of such a financial instrument is debatable, but it can't be dismissed as "nothing new".

Where's the novelty? Everyone would be able to buy (paper) btc through their stock market broker, without having an account at an exchange. Besides, if the settlement is really in kind, the ETF issuer would have to hold/buy/sell matching amounts of the underlying asset (btc) or bear the risk when the ETF holder asks for payment. That is, if fuckery can be ruled out. Which is a big IF.



1923. Post 51144955 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

I do have a sell plan. IMO, it's always better to plan ahead and execute without much thought when the time comes. My plan is rather conservative, so it won't be life-changing anyway.

In related news: we're well above 8k again. My small long position was limit sold with a small profit when we went down, and rebuilt (a little larger, but a little higher) and it's now in the green. I'm setting up another stop limit in case it dips again.



1924. Post 51145502 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Again a round trip below 8k. Keep it going! Each one of those makes me a few million.

(Amounts in this post are in satoshis.)



1925. Post 51151442 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Interesting bullish commentary, Retina. But where/who is it from? Please do attribute your quotes.

Quote from: Retina on May 21, 2019, 04:07:21 AM
Quote

Quote
After the pullback on Thursday night, the bears are at it again. Yes the same "experts" that have been calling for a huge pullback since, let me check 4k, are ignoring the structure and proportion of this rally which is clearly bullish . Unfortunately many have missed out on the rally or simply flip their calls depending on the direction of the wind. One simple pullback and they are making up patterns or simply covering their tracks with IF statements and no clear calls one way or the other. I consider this weather forecasting not Technical Analysis .

I'll be straight forward here: BUY THE DIP!

Let me make a prelude. This article is for investors and position traders, not swing or daytrading. Different strategies with different intents.

(snip)

We are looking to buy this dip! THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!



1926. Post 51151714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

I voted 2020 on the ATH poll and found myself in good company. But we all know she does what she likes anyway, often the opposite of what the majority expects.



1927. Post 51151744 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 21, 2019, 04:52:04 AM
Thanks..  No problem.  I cannot help myself anyhow.  My algorithm makes me do it...    Wink

Get the fuck out of here with your nutjob algorithm talk.

It is almost as if the Goose started talking about his posting team.



1928. Post 51152234 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 21, 2019, 12:17:09 PM
Get the fuck out of here with your nutjob algorithm talk.

It is almost as if the Goose started talking about his posting team.

What do you mean?

Cheesy
Someone made the hypothesis that JJG is actually a bot posting algorithmically - too many words for the average human.
Someone else suggested that Mic is only the figurehead of a team - too much going on for a single guy.

I was actually just taking the piss  Cool



1929. Post 51153793 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: nutildah on May 21, 2019, 02:04:36 PM
Wouldn't expect less from the fork-of-a-fork crowd. They seem to be of particularly low-caliber intellect, as evidenced by their guest appearances in this thread.

With a few unexplicable exceptions...



1930. Post 51154400 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

-1 from a Hitler reference  Tongue



1931. Post 51154455 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 21, 2019, 03:00:40 PM
Craig filing copyright registration proves only one thing " that $35 registration fees is too low" it should increase drastically for every "Special individual-retard".

That documentation is hilarious. As if that proves anything.

CW should be a comedian!
Since copyright gives the owner considerable power over any use of the copyrighted item, there should be a serious penalty for application found lacking substance. Much more so for patents, which deprive humanity of years of progress. In other words: if you're not sure you own it, don't try to file it or you'll pay through your nose.

An alternative penalty for insolvent fake applicants might be losing the rights to some of the previously owned copyrights/patents.



1932. Post 51154496 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: nutildah on May 21, 2019, 03:02:11 PM
-1 from a Hitler reference  Tongue

It was actually a Nazi reference, but I get what you're saying... I accept the -1 willingly.

I'm not taxing you, nutildah! I was just amusedly observing we are one step away (-1) FROM referencing Hitler - which in this ebullient thread happens with remarkably low frequency.



1933. Post 51154533 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 21, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Bah. Depression sucks. Decided I'm getting drunk today.

Again.

*sighs*

Grow Bitcorn grow, tho. Once it breaches $10k, I'm thinking of rage-selling a chunk of corn to subsidize Rick's retirement.

Being retired, alone, kinda sucks. Dealing with Rick venting about (((them))) is starting to get to me, in a really bad way, and driving a wedge between us. Growing resentment, over a few years now, is going to become a breaking point sooner than later.

The human condition is a colossal bag of shit.
Come on Bob, what's happening to the most unshakable black cowboy we know? I think you might have neglected your titanium training recently. Keep your chin up, have a couple beers and look onwards!



1934. Post 51154631 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 21, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
Bob has always been an emotional wreck as far back as I can remember.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Tongue

No need to remind him right now   Roll Eyes



1935. Post 51159258 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 21, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
Thursday is a hugely epic day. Stay tuned for official announcements and decrees.  Cheesy
Do you know something that we don't?



1936. Post 51161248 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 22, 2019, 01:19:58 AM
Backtest your emotions. We've seen five of these blowoff tops. Factor the next one in before it gobsmacks you.

That's some OG sense.



1937. Post 51161357 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: jojo69 on May 22, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
easier said than done...I thought I had it licked last time
What works for me is an honest assessment of my needs, wants, and expectations. In my case, the assessment must be worked out before the prices get to life-changing levels. This produces a plan whose outcome I'm happy with.

In the heat of frenzied bulls raging, there is still some wiggle room for tweaking a few percentage points, as jbreher admitted, but the actual execution of the plan requires little thought.

I find it easier when framed as "Do I still need/want/expect what I needed/wanted/expected when I was planning? Well, here it is, ready for me to pick."


Prices to the moon.
How much do I sell? Do I?
Problems worth having.



1938. Post 51166678 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

I don't like it today. Just my SOMA gut, but the coming weekend might be little fun.



1939. Post 51173326 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Masterluc via Telegram

So what, a triangle on Thursday into 10k?




1940. Post 51176950 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 22, 2019, 09:06:13 PM
That's not news... jbreher activism just goes in streaks Or outbursts).. .especially if there is seeming to be pumpening, then jbreher seems to become even moar prolific,
 .blah blah blah. .
Much as I like civilized discussions with our picnic bear, what wordy man managed to convey in a reasonably-sized paragraph rings true.



1941. Post 51177004 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Nigerian CocoPalm Farmer on May 23, 2019, 01:09:34 AM
My village has switched over to only using bitcoin cash and now we added SV.  We can't afford to be paying dollars per transactions, its too much money for us and the lightning network isn't safe and is just putting a bandaid on a big wound when we can have real scaling.

Yes, the lightning network hurts. I feel your pain. Luckily there is SV. And luckily price is super UP! Hodl it dearly.

So who had the nerve to ask for SV use cases? Well, take a look now. It's helping the unbanked get full cryptobanked. In Nigeria. This guy might even be the village prince. Important guy with rich dying or freshly dead relatives, ever heard of him?



1942. Post 51177025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on May 22, 2019, 11:11:42 PM
Two different blockchains driven by two different ideologies. I would point you to the forum at bitco.in for more info.
Ideology?
Your ideology is to mislead innocent people. Read my last post.
This is the last sMerit I waste on legends rebuking jbreher's sly denial  Angry

PS Thanks Toxic!



1943. Post 51177082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

The view from The Wall is fairly bleak right now. Will Vanga's Triangle come to our rescue?


Felt like Wall watching
and shared the moment with peeps
sorry if OT  Tongue



1944. Post 51177147 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 23, 2019, 01:43:54 AM
(Fearful memories snipped)
So let's just make it blunt for the newbs, you're a liar and this is an obviously stupid character you're playing.

A pride of lions
ripping my brother apart
Nigerian scammer



1945. Post 51181359 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 23, 2019, 04:45:18 AM
That's not news... jbreher activism just goes in streaks Or outbursts).. .especially if there is seeming to be pumpening, then jbreher seems to become even moar prolific,
 .blah blah blah. .
Much as I like civilized discussions with our picnic bear, what wordy man managed to convey in a reasonably-sized paragraph rings true.

Who is "wordy man"?

Wordy man coming
shitcoin shills, nutjobs beware
get the fuck out soon

 Grin



1946. Post 51182339 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Erratic price movement on insignificant volume. Calm before the storm? This could be an interesting weekend, even if Masterluc's triangle prophecy doesn't strike.



1947. Post 51182507 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 23, 2019, 12:15:41 PM
Erratic price movement on insignificant volume. Calm before the storm? This could be an interesting weekend, even if Masterluc's triangle prophecy doesn't strike.

Storm which side?? Roll Eyes

I prefer UP, did you know that? Smiley

It's only a matter of time anyway, Masterluc or not  Cool



1948. Post 51186431 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 23, 2019, 05:55:01 PM
I also would instantly buy from many in here if there would be a collectible or something dumb that I like, but first when I visit collectibles I didn't know one member over there, so for that the trust was maybe something that helped me out....

That makes sense. But trust appears to be a weaponised penis measuring contest now, but no one knows where their penis is any more.

There should be trust per transaction. Anything beyond that is plain weird.

+1 WOsMerit

I'm all with gentlemand on the Trust issue. Trades, and only trades, should be allowed to make their way into trade trust scores.



1949. Post 51187047 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: infofront on May 23, 2019, 06:21:36 PM
We need a fucking therapist in this thread.




1950. Post 51190578 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 24, 2019, 12:49:41 AM

Yes. Bitcoin.com provides prominent notice that BCH and BTC are two different things. Faced with that knowledge, if the newcomer is not prompted to perform the requisite five more minutes of due diligence, they'd lose their money in short order no matter which direction they go.
JB for fuck sake please stop saying this again and again. Please do not get blind to see how they are phushing BCH shit on their website. Have you even read the emails they send to their subscribers. In every emails they push BCH. I have never seen an email where they pushed to buy Bitcoin.

Of course they push BCH.

Yes, they provide prominent notice that BCH and BTC are different. Ergo, anyone purchasing BCH from them knows damned well that it is not BTC. Accordingly, no fraud has been committed. Purchaser is fully informed as to the difference. Purchaser receives exactly what they bought.
Adding the useless qualifier "core" to bitcoin just to mix it up with bcash (which does need a qualifier) borders on fraud.
We don't need to explain you that, do we?

Waiting for the day the site properly calls bitcoin "Bitcoin" and bcash "Bitcoin Cash".

skeleton-waiting.gif



1951. Post 51190661 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on May 24, 2019, 01:12:07 AM
And I realized money does not mean shit.  We all say it... but something happened to nail it in.

It's in those moments that we get our priorities straight.
I was touched.

Please take care - with stinging bugs and with doxxing yourself!



1952. Post 51190708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

^^ take my last

Just imagine having to hand your IDs to Big Brother Zuckerberg because KYC.



1953. Post 51190744 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Alright Privcy, where is it you want to go?
I never suspected you looked this hot.



1954. Post 51201946 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: VB1001 on May 24, 2019, 04:32:47 PM
someone alphabetise those poor hats before i get epileptic seizures
kthxbye

Lol, You have to memorize hat/user or user/hat

Forget about alphabetizing hats, your photographic memory must always be active to make the brain more agile. Wink

V8, It is complicated for updates, if it were a list there would be no problem.
Text tags might help if searchable.



1955. Post 51202745 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Biodom on May 24, 2019, 09:01:40 PM

at the end of the day 1 came out profitable!) Total 1/6)
For me the most important thing is that I recognized my mistakes! It costs a lot


I remember reading a blog of one very prominent trader (sorry, I forgot the linky).
He said:

1. if your last 4-5 trades went bad, become very defensive.

2. if your last 4-5 trades were profitable, become very aggressive.

I lost a large chunk of my trading equity in 2001-2002 since I only knew the bull market of 1997-2001 prior to that.
Nothing worked, but I kept 'buying the dip'.
It was a good lesson.
And good value for money is my guess: eventually in the green anyway, unless you sodl or got rekt.

Are you referring to this blog by any chance?
http://theimpatienttrader.blogspot.com/2011/10/things-ive-learned-after-15-years-of.html

Someone posted a link to it just a few days ago. I think it was Last of the V8s.



1956. Post 51202827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 24, 2019, 09:35:05 PM
Tinfoil time(not really though bc this all could very well be true):

What if this megapump of the last few weeks has been Facebook secretly buying up mostly Bitcoin but also a basket of other major cryptos to create a buzz in Crypto as they start leaking out their Globalcoin plans. Shocked
This is not so far fetched. I'd merit if I could. Have instead a tasty
+1 WOsMerit



1957. Post 51202906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 24, 2019, 09:46:38 PM

at the end of the day 1 came out profitable!) Total 1/6)
For me the most important thing is that I recognized my mistakes! It costs a lot


I remember reading a blog of one very prominent trader (sorry, I forgot the linky).
He said:

1. if your last 4-5 trades went bad, become very defensive.

2. if your last 4-5 trades were profitable, become very aggressive.

I lost a large chunk of my trading equity in 2001-2002 since I only knew the bull market of 1997-2001 prior to that.
Nothing worked, but I kept 'buying the dip'.
It was a good lesson.
And good value for money is my guess: eventually in the green anyway, unless you sodl or got rekt.

Are you referring to this blog by any chance?
http://theimpatienttrader.blogspot.com/2011/10/things-ive-learned-after-15-years-of.html

Someone posted a link to it just a few days ago. I think it was Last of the V8s.

Yes Last of the V8s was the first to post that blog on the WO afaik.  I still think of it as the most important blog post I have ever read.
Golden* advice indeed. And distilled - not a single dud. Printing and taping near trading monitor advised.

* Use of the adjective golden in the traditional sense implies no endorsement of gold over BTC.



1958. Post 51208880 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 25, 2019, 08:21:34 AM
F*** dammit one last thing, my GF booked a resto for tomorrow “VEGAN” just to try it .......

Not looking forward to go but F*** we gotta try everything I guess Roll Eyes

Don't forget the beano.
Then again, vegans probably aren't bothered by excess farting...goes with the territory I guess....


I don't have that problem, then again i'm not a Vegan Roll Eyes just a try and a friend of GF asked if we wanna join them.....

Still i'm not looking forward, let hope to be surprised somehow.
I am a stubborn omnivore, but I do have vegetarian streaks and vegan days on occasion. Some vegan food is really good!

BTW, I think Carlsberg is Danish not Belgian. My favorite "special" beer among the ones you listed is probably Orval, but there are so many good beers from Belgium it's hard to choose. My range goes from plain old Stella to sour, refreshing weiss Blanche de Namur through velvety amber Leffe. The only kind that doesn't seem to be widely produced in Belgium is IPA, a huge fad today.



1959. Post 51222184 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Maybe all we need to get past this resistance is a tipping over of the shorts/longs ratio.



1960. Post 51231224 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Wow. A few hours off the chain and see what I find.

Jimbo gives us not one, but a handful of strictly relevant haikus.
+1 WOsMerit

Arrie takes one for the team.
+1 WOsMerit

Lambie thinks of Zuck and surmises the new buyback.
+1 WOsMerit

Gyrsur dreams of Rio, too.
+1 WOsMerit

V8 posts a smiling girl getting wet in front of a hyperbole.
+1 WOsMerit

Marcus points out he made the best call. I agree.
+1 WOsMerit

And infofront silently managed to clean up a couple dozen shitposts.
+1 WOsMerit

Roach is nowhere to be seen.
No WOsMerit to the absent  Tongue

That's at least 6 too many merits to ask for a friend to cover my back. And WOsMerit is more fun anyway.

Will this be the week that started at 10k and ended halfway through the atmosphere?



1961. Post 51231293 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Disclosure: I'm closing my long. I kept selling it on the way up, so not much of it is left anyway. I'd better call it a day and maybe reopen later, possibly higher but on a cool mind.

I even managed to cash out a few small and quick shorts through all the good natured low volume waves we've had before the last explosion. All shorts closed in profit - admittedly small profit, but they did allow me to keep my long open without suffering.

Play money +8%, played conservatively. To the cold stash it goes. I will sacrifice some animal to the Corn tomorrow. Maybe a cockroach.




1962. Post 51231379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: bitserve on May 27, 2019, 12:46:26 AM
Disclosure: I'm closing my long. I kept selling it on the way up, so not much of it is left anyway. I'd better call it a day and maybe reopen later, possibly higher but on a cool mind.

I even managed to cash out a few small and quick shorts through all the good natured low volume waves we've had before the last explosion. All shorts closed in profit - admittedly small profit, but they did allow me to keep my long open without suffering.

Play money +8%, played conservatively. To the cold stash it goes. I will sacrifice some animal to the Corn tomorrow. Maybe a cockroach.



The past month has been very hard to trade. Easy to get rekt scalping and basically doing anything other than longing. 8% for play/trade money is good enough. Congrats.

Other than that, HODLING was the right move no doubt.
Not that hard actually. The thing is, it kept revisiting nearly all the highs and lows multiple times. So all it took was a little patience, and the occasional minor suffering. There were a few relatively nasty runs, both up and down, but I made it through because I kept my shorts out of liquidation (leveraged under 1) and my long liquidation never went above 3400. That's what I mean by "conservative".



1963. Post 51236879 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Paashaas on May 27, 2019, 03:40:59 AM
Bitcoin investment theses.




Part 1: https://medium.com/@pierre_rochard/bitcoin-investment-theses-part-1-e97670b5389b

Part 2: https://medium.com/@pierre_rochard/bitcoin-investment-theses-part-2-bc8840521d8
One year old, but still a good read with a neutral stance - every thesis is contrasted with an anti-thesis.



1964. Post 51242230 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

A new small long of mine was swept by a sudden dip. I'm keeping tight stops in this phase. Flat ATM, but waiting to renew my long if it really dips.



1965. Post 51242353 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on May 27, 2019, 07:15:27 PM
Hello WO brothers, how we all doing today? Grin

via Imgflip Meme Generator

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Sunday chilling @coiner house .... not playing myself other stuff to do later on today....

Got much love for those friends in here!!!

Anyone playing @the moment SCOOPS?

That looks cozy AF! What are you smoking?


Weed, but me nothing, i'm no smoker and will also never smoke weed anymore for fun and lulz after what happened on my last Bday, I was sick AF!!!

Yeah, a lot of people get sick but I never actually smoked so much that it made me sick. I don't really understand the whole culture of pushing your limits. Although... Leveraging on acid is not something people forget Cheesy
It does happen - and it happened to two of my acquaintances - but it's unusual to be sick when smoking weed. It's more likely to happen to nonsmokers - meaning people who don't actually smoke anything, including legal poison. Weed is actually good at preventing being sick.

Psychedelics are a different ball game, but acid isn't the most vomit-inducing of the lot.



1966. Post 51242631 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 27, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
I can said that weed had me exactly where it wanted to PUKE all over that 3* restaurants terrace

It might have delayed the inevitable by a few minutes instead...  Grin

Quote
I'm sure that chef will not forget me and company..... yeah I know shame on you Mic going such a place smoking weed there, ruin the terrace etc i'm a savage from time to time Roll Eyes
Come on, don't be too hard with yourself. Shit happens from time to time. And vomit too.  Wink



1967. Post 51250048 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Little DCA just under 8.7k Smiley
Will margin long a bit too if it dips another inch



1968. Post 51251302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Trading suspended on bitmex. Such a long outage (several minutes already) is unusual. Fuckery? Seat belts?

EDIT Back to normal, but it was weird.



1969. Post 51252216 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: somac. on May 28, 2019, 01:33:30 PM
New money Tuesday?
After a bank holiday in the US yesterday, US wires should be hitting the exchanges right now.

personally im thinking today will be the oppersite.  we had 5 green days, very possible for some red ones soon.  

Starting to look that way. Just after I bought a little bit more too, always the way.
I bought some too, but these are the joys of DCA. You miss sometimes, but you hit most of the time - as long as the asset keeps growing in the long run. Never mind the blips.

On the other hand, I managed to open a new long at a more comfortable entry point  Cool



1970. Post 51253847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: VB1001 on May 28, 2019, 03:12:50 PM
Cards, just the user name and the photo of the hat.

As a European citizen, Amsterdam, Barcelona, ​​Montecarlo, Milan, it would be perfect.

A survey should be prepared, first in which continent and then in which city.
@infofront takes note. Wink
It might be a little early for that, but better be prepared I guess?  Cool



1971. Post 51257182 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 28, 2019, 07:34:26 PM
What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Intellectual honesty while reading them.

EDIT 2k posts!



1972. Post 51257313 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's.  Roll Eyes



1973. Post 51257484 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jonoiv on May 28, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's.  Roll Eyes

Im not sure there will be too many... 
All it takes is ONE guy  Tongue



1974. Post 51257698 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 28, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Intellectual honesty while reading them.

No. You don't get to broadside and run off. I asked for evidence of a particular assertion. One which I do not believe exists within any of Satoshi's collected writings.

I thought this was about CSW's writings, actually. Sorry, I misfired.



1975. Post 51266984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Despite the price going slightly down, it looks like silent, small, continuous buying is going on. It is as if someone was still accumulating trying not to let it through.



1976. Post 51267301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

The small climb continues. Without either a sharp drop or another breakout, this will get near Vegeta levels in a few hours. Go bitcoin go.



1977. Post 51267936 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jonoiv on May 29, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
What should I change the poll to?

What percent invested (in crypto) are you of your total savings?

100%
75-99%
50-74%
25-49%
0-25%


EDIT
* Excluding stable coins

I like this. With an important distinction to be made in the poll question: how much one invested in crypto/other assets vs. the present worth of crypto/other assets. The two ratios might be wildly different especially for OGs.



1978. Post 51268241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jonoiv on May 29, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
What should I change the poll to?

What percent invested (in crypto) are you of your total savings?

100%
75-99%
50-74%
25-49%
0-25%


EDIT
* Excluding stable coins

I like this. With an important distinction to be made in the poll question: how much one invested in crypto/other assets vs. the present worth of crypto/other assets. The two ratios might be wildly different especially for OGs.


too many variables for a simple poll though,  The list of options would have to be quite big and it would get confussing
Yes, confusing indeed. I didn't make it clear enough, but I was indeed suggesting the question should be unambiguous (how much invested OR how much worth).



1979. Post 51270685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 29, 2019, 05:45:30 PM

Yet -- if it is CSW's utterances to which you refer -- he advocates a return to the protocol enshrined upon release of 0.1 in perpetuity.

0.1?
that had bugs, needed feedback
satoshi hung around here a long time ironing it out
he left us with 0.3.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

Never mind the bollocks, V8. Jbreher can be a reasonable guy, but as soon as we touch one of his personal icons - be it Jihan, Ver or lately CSW - he becomes a smarmy religious zealot.



1980. Post 51270782 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 29, 2019, 05:51:22 PM
Watchtowers will be released in next LN update.

https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/3133

Great! Coming soon to a Lightning Network near you! The Trusted Third Parties required if you don't want to have your funds stolen while your node isn't online!

Of course, they can't economically be of value in any case where the tx fee for inclusion within the repudiation interval is higher than the funds at risk. But it makes good advertising copy.

Watchtowers are a Good Thing. I haven't researched the matter yet, but I think the repudiation protocol can be refined to keep the funds inside the LN and transferred to another channel.



1981. Post 51275218 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: infofront on May 29, 2019, 08:17:09 PM


Thanks for all your great and terrible poll ideas!
Where's 'I don't like spam!' ?

Besides the obvious quote, we need a get-out card for vegetarians and beyond (disdain for the poll itself).

I would have voted that.  Some things are just too personal.



1982. Post 51275371 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 29, 2019, 09:16:31 PM
if a vegan gives you a blowjob is she expelled from the cult or what?

Only if she swallows.
Well I actually asked a vegan lady friend of mine. She quoted the Statute.

Quote from: Vegan Statute
It's not a problem to swallow. It's given willingly and happily.
My living body is mine to decide what it should be filled with
and what of it I'm willing to give as food or anything,.

Even in non-orthodox ways

TL;GAH
I cannot believe...
Whadda fuck are you asking?
No blow job for you!





1983. Post 51275506 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on May 30, 2019, 03:24:14 AM
do you eat horse bacon?

You had my interest, now you have my attention.

I have never tried it but now I don't know if I can hold out another day without knowing the taste... Is it good?

My first visit to Japan, co-workers took me out for a proper night of Japanese co-worker carousing. Was enjoying plenty yummy foods, along with the free-flowing beers, sakes, and highballs. I think they got on a wink-wink tack of 'freak out the foreigner'. Food got odder and odder. No problem. At horse sushi, several others begged off.

Wasn't bad at all. Must have been colt.
Horse sushi was interesting. The meat part was nice, the fat wasn't my thing. Raw chicken was surprisingly good too. And tuna with raw egg yolk. Was grossed out at first then got addicted to the latter.

Not sure I could get into all those grilled intestines though.
I only ate raw chicken gizzards and similar 'delicacies' because of a bet. Not charming at all.
The right cut of raw horse is very tasty IMO, but I only had it twice.
Grilled intestines of several animals are quite popular worldwide. I've eaten such delicacies in different countries. Even gizzards: if properly seared or grilled, they are a peculiar treat.



1984. Post 51275685 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

SOMA TA: regular 2h20~2h30 mammothlets since ~48h.
Barts and debarts are timed quite tightly.
Splined barts are too, with a row of pachiderms superimposed over a sine wave with moving bias.

Is moving bias
Just a longer, slower sine?
Need deeper SOMA.



1985. Post 51281073 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: jonoiv on May 30, 2019, 07:13:27 AM

Infofront...? Sorry to disturb...



1986. Post 51282821 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: infofront on May 30, 2019, 02:22:41 PM

Infofront...? Sorry to disturb...

I just took care of most of it. That retard is on thin ice with the janitor now.

Wish I had a merit left.
+1 WOsMerit  Cool

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 30, 2019, 02:38:21 PM


... and +1 WOsMerit here!  Cheesy



1987. Post 51282871 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 30, 2019, 03:11:12 PM
The one who appeals to authority of Satoshi and thinks his vision is without fault and should never be challenged?

Might as well join a cult (already has to me, since that's what SV is, following the ideas of a single human who has faults)

Indeed. I like to call them 'religious issues'.



1988. Post 51283954 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

It was a fakeout, but it brought some oxygen to my small playing stash  Grin



1989. Post 51289009 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on May 31, 2019, 01:07:43 AM
I leave the internet for a while and when I come back you have crashed bitcoin. What have you done? Idiots!
It's you who crashed it man. You didn't rebuy fast enough.



1990. Post 51289037 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 30, 2019, 11:06:11 PM
Breaking:
Shitcoin Mogul Craig Wright is filing to Copyright Hodlsleep Roll Eyes
Just getting back at Mic's team in his own sweet way. He secretly wants to join it, but the front Goose don't let no altcoiners in the lockers.



1991. Post 51289147 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on May 31, 2019, 02:33:40 AM
I leave the internet for a while and when I come back you have crashed bitcoin. What have you done? Idiots!
It's you who crashed it man. You didn't rebuy fast enough.

Keep calm, BTFD, hodl and shitpost.

All right. I'm on it, Phases 1 and 2 accomplished. Now to Phase 3.

@jonoiv I warned you. And no, I don't mean about infofront cleaning up after you puking all over the place.  Tongue



1992. Post 51294675 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 31, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Meanwhile in utter shitcoin news today, The Mother's Union staged a protest at alleged paedophile Calvin Ayre's party, demanding that their little girls not be used any more to [NSFL link:] fulfil his sick fantasies
- https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1134260643996020736

The word 'p(a)edophile' is being shifted to a different meaning recently. Wiktionary defines it as 'An adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child.' I see no children in this pic, or in other recent party pics from the douche. Of course, I'm not debating Calvin being a douche.



1993. Post 51294801 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: fillippone on May 31, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Meanwhile in utter shitcoin news today, The Mother's Union staged a protest at alleged paedophile Calvin Ayre's party, demanding that their little girls not be used any more to [NSFL link:] fulfil his sick fantasies
- https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1134260643996020736

The word 'p(a)edophile' is being shifted to a different meaning recently. Wiktionary defines it as 'An adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child.' I see no children in this pic, or in other recent party pics from the douche. Of course, I'm not debating Calvin being a douche.
You are probably not digging too much into his social media...
Not advising to do so. You wouldn't discover anything we already know: he's a douche.

I admit I'm not digging at all, filippone.
I'm just itching because I feel attracted by some of the young ladies, but I don't consider myself a pedophile.

EDIT I see our advanced pervert put me in the right place. Well I should have seen it coming.



1994. Post 51295400 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: kurious on May 31, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
~
The word 'p(a)edophile' is being shifted to a different meaning recently. Wiktionary defines it as 'An adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child.' I see no children in this pic, or in other recent party pics from the douche. Of course, I'm not debating Calvin being a douche.

I believe V8 was making a joke about these women being the mothers of the young girls in the first link he put up, one you may have missed and that I won't repost.

No reposting required.

@ Eddie - trust me, they looked a long way under 18.
I must have missed the realchildren post. Not going to look for it either. Thanks @kenzawak and @kurious for easing my discomfort.

Our gentlemand pointing out no tickling is involved didn't help as much, though the spitroasting bit worked much better.



1995. Post 51298295 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 31, 2019, 04:52:30 PM
Made it to Madrid. Hopefully tomorrow is one of the best nights of my life.

Settling down in the hotel with of course - Sangria.

I will share some pics of my experiences tomorrow fellow HODLERS!

For now -


I have a hunch you won't walk alone there.
Because of course you NEVER walk alone!   Wink



1996. Post 51314689 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Localbitcoins - they chose compliance over usefulness already some time ago. I guess it's all they could do. There are alternatives already, and more will follow.



1997. Post 51314707 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Back on topic - I wonder how wasted Mic and LFC managed to get.



1998. Post 51319091 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: lightfoot on June 02, 2019, 02:53:52 AM
Localbitcoins - they chose compliance over usefulness already some time ago. I guess it's all they could do. There are alternatives already, and more will follow.
Well.... What's the point then?

Right, there's no big point
got KYC everywhere
let's decentralize.



1999. Post 51328318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on June 02, 2019, 11:25:52 PM

P.S. I would not suggest any drugs in the party.

well, so much for that


Or maybe it's not misinformation and the Philippines aren't the best place for a party of degenerates anyway.



2000. Post 51346210 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Masterluc on Telegram

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Seems like we're not going (up) yet
$8000 not holding


And btw the dip to 6k was mentioned on May 12 but just as a possibility, with an explicit "maybe/who knows".



2001. Post 51346279 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 04, 2019, 11:13:00 AM
^
Gonna start the Bday Pick Nick Cheesy

Meanwhile GoGoGo Bitcoin!!
Jellied eels, slugs and wet fart sauce? ;-)
HAPPY BDAY GOOSE!!



2002. Post 51349293 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):

Quote from: VB1001 on June 04, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
^ Is that some new Finnish Act recently enacted?
Any Finns pl?

They were already preparing this:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/localbitcoins-announces-supervision-by-financial-supervisory-authority-of-finland

https://localbitcoins.com/blog/aml-features-update/
They could have simply disabled the local bitcoins feature for Finnish addresses/customers. This draconian choice is probably preparation for some more significant "institutional" turn. As in: government friendly. I stand by my opinion: Bisq and other decentralized markets are the way to go for the future.



2003. Post 51358143 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 05, 2019, 10:34:30 AM
Lambie I'd love to come to Vegas, but I must insist that we have a serious moment. Perhaps the address at the dinner could be given by that foremost bitcoin expert Ms Izabella Kaminska. I believe you know her well enough to invite her?
It would be fun to have the crap lady along with the slayer.
With a little extra maybe she would be willing to give the ad-dress un-dressed.
With a larger extra maybe she could entertain a few OGs with other oral abilities.
I seem to remember she was fond of particularly nasty porn, so my idea might be not totally out of this world.



2004. Post 51358286 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Aren't we jinxing it?



2005. Post 51358972 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: kurious on June 05, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
I think an arbitrary price figure is the problem.  May never get there / may hit it only fleetingly / crash right after  /  does not happen for three years - who knows?
If it's paid in advance - say, 0.1 btc - the funds could be in escrow and they could be sold as soon as 100k are hit. So the budget would be safe. So fiat funding should be no issue. Same goes for plane tickets: where needed, each member planning to participate could keep a small (today) sum aside to cover for that. It will be worth ~10x at that time. Let's not forget that  Cool

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When I mentioned timing it within a set time from the Halvening, it seemed popular. No pressure, time to plan etc.  And it is sure it will happen, so it can be booked.

If you want a mad celebration for 100K - a spontaneous thing does seem to make sense.  

I guess I was thinking of a WO celebration party (likely to be when we've already done very nicely financially) but not really about price, so much as a party for the WO 'anyway' - and it could even turn into a regular thing.  Anyone could organise a hookers and blow event to coincide with it, why not?  At least we'd all know when the party was and that it would actually happen if enough people wanted to go.

Time needed to organise a successful large event and actually attract enough people to make it work well?  

Months. Less than 12, probably more than 6.
You make sense, kurious. A set date or a little advance notice are good: I think it's better to pursue the ONE party idea, at least tentatively. It would be a pity if, for instance, the Goose and the Bob couldn't meet there because of geography. Of course members can arrange aside meeting privately (the recent Madrid thing).




2006. Post 51360377 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: nanobtc on June 05, 2019, 03:05:04 PM
It may be wise to earmark a small % for security. Vegas is certainly used to high-roller parties. A bunch of jubilant geeks that are newly-minted millionaires can easily be low on op-sec. High value targets, low on paying attention could be a good spot for 'the bad guys', whoever they are. Vegas may be liberal on gun laws, but the airlines getting there are not.

This deserves a merit.
+1 WOsMerit is good too  Smiley



2007. Post 51364783 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 05, 2019, 07:30:04 PM
Imagine selling a big % at $100,000 & then 3 weeks later we’re at $200,000.
Unlikely if many long timers are selling a bit at 100k...



2008. Post 51364809 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: mrdeposit on June 05, 2019, 11:17:40 PM
When bitcoin again hits $20K soon, the world will wake up to the fact that Bitcoin is here to stay.

Many high-profile people will start being vocal about owning BTC as everyone who ever bought bitcoin will now be in profit.

https://twitter.com/misir_mahmudov/status/1136365038531481600
Is there any tool for guessing the "inauguration time" of the next big market cycle?

SOMA* analysis gives consistent results.
Consistently shitty.

In other words: if there were any such such tool, we'd all be rich. Or more likely, at least a few would. I guess they wouldn't be willing to share.


* Straight Off My Ass(TM). Almost always wrong, almost all the time!



2009. Post 51371632 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 06, 2019, 02:13:00 PM
Things where diversification does not lead to benefit:
First item OK... but the other two?  Huh Are we going crazy or what?



2010. Post 51372280 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 06, 2019, 03:06:24 PM
Things where diversification does not lead to benefit:
  • Shitcoins "investments"
  • Drugs
  • Women
First item OK... but the other two?  Huh Are we going crazy or what?

Holding a PORTFOLIO with more than one woman is recipe for disaster.

You can bet one at a time, no problem,long term or day trading very high turnover: no problem.
You can leverage and go long two or more different women for very short periods of time. risky, but no problem.
But investment...man we are talking about long term. Two girls is going to collapse. Transaction costs and BS management is going to kill you.

Same with drugs.
I see your point with women. My point is, if you're really long and have a really diversified portfolio, you're good to go. Transaction costs do go up a bit, but being long implies fringe costs aren't an issue. Besides, management overhead goes down as long as each of the assets (liabilities?) agrees or at least knows she's not the one (implying replaceability) and she's the one afraid of the holder going short.

As for drugs, what would life be without a good assortment (in reasonable moderation)? Doing the same stuff over and over can be habit forming. Change is your friend. Or at least it's mine  Grin Well, if one doesn't do "nasty" stuff anyway.


As a little OT digression, the corn looks tired today. Low 7k's might be on the short term horizon. [Insert standard full SOMA disclosure.]



2011. Post 51395226 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Price action slightly lazy for a weekend. Is something stirring in the deep?



2012. Post 51400844 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

What's up with the Goose?
Week-long birthday, custom cake...
team play at its best.




2013. Post 51419906 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 10, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Weekly close looks very ugly and points to a trend reversal.

We might revisit 6k range in the coming weeks/months.

We might and we might not, lol.

Im more on the bearish side right now.

65% going to 6k vs 35% going to 9k.

Im looking for a short entry here.

You still bearish, criptix?

Do you still assign a 65% chance that we will reach $6k before $9k?  or have your odds changed?  

Did you enter a short, and if so was there a stoploss that got triggered?  Should be running tight stop losses, no?  Any margin trading "experts" want to chime in, here?

I am no expert, and I only do small time margin trading as an aside.

Stop losses are necessary sometimes, but in my experience it's better to set loose (untight! Ask jbreher if in doubt) stop losses while keeping a hedging (opposing) position on another trade leg. This often allows me to cash a bit on both legs if there is jitter around the thresholds. In any case, as one position goes more and more into loss, the other goes more and more into gain. Ideally, they should more or less balance out. At the very least, this allows me time to think: I have a choice of cashing out a bit from one or swallowing a bit of loss from the other. When the direction is clear, it is possible to exit one leg gradually - or abruptly, whatever.

Depending on the exchange's policy, I might NOT be able to use the unrealized gains as margin if I don't "realize" them (cash them out). So I do my own research, or I might find my position liquidated even in the middle of huge paper gains. What really helps is keeping the leverage very low - ideally, under 1, which actually means no leverage at all. By doing so, if the losing position gets increasingly worse, I can at least cash out the other one and gain some breathing air.

Disclosure: I have such a setup at the moment. The short position bought me some tasty bacon, but the long position is suffering. I'm going to be liquidated if the price falls below 3k. Yes. My liquidation is well below 3k. That's what I mean by "underleveraging".

One fine day I'll jump back on the wagon and stop trading for good. Until that wagon day comes, I hope my confession is helpful.



2014. Post 51420889 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 10, 2019, 04:19:31 PM
Disclosure: I have such a setup at the moment. The short position bought me some tasty bacon, but the long position is suffering. I'm going to be liquidated if the price falls below 3k. Yes. My liquidation is well below 3k. That's what I mean by "underleveraging".

I am supposing that you entered your long and your short at BTC prices that were decently higher than today, such as in the $8,200 or higher arenas?
That's right. My trades are multi-day affairs more often than not.

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But if you had entered both a long and a short, yesterday-ish, at the time that criptix was asserting his bearishness, in the $7,600 price arena, then the long would be doing much better than the short, currently... right?
Of course.

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So, it seems that your perspective on strategy is going to be influenced quite decently by when you entered the position, you are likely going to have to spend a decent amount of time watching the market and even trying to assign odds to various BTC price directions on an ongoing basis in order to figure out whether the odds would be in your favor to close a losing position early or to re-establish your bets to figure out if your trading stash is growing or shrinking.
Well there is a balance to be found between getting greedy and being too much of a pussy. That's one of those things you only learn by doing, by investing time - and money too (the only "trading lessons" that matter are those you pay for, IMO).

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I do appreciate your stated approach, d_eddie, in which you are setting aside some of your profits from time to time (taking them off the table), but still I would imagine that sometimes there is going to be shrinkage of the trading stash and even internal questioning about whether the size of the trading stash is enough (temptations to get greedy by redeploying profits into the trading stash that previously had been stashed away).
Since I started taking profits off the table at regular time intervals or regular profit amounts, I haven't seen my trading stash shrink yet. Of course, I can stay in the red for some time, but it ain't over until the fat lady sings - meaning, until ALL legs are closed. However, you rise a relevant point about lurking greed - the temptation to raise the stash does nag me from time to time. In my case, it happens more often when I feel like getting out of a tight corner by a bold move and some luck; less often when I feel I could enhance my profits. But I guess everyone is different. At any rate, I've learned my lesson, and I know that when someday I'm required to pull the plug on some losing trade, I will do it without risking more. In that case, I will probably replenish the trading stash to its standard initial state. I've made enough profits already that even getting liquidated a couple times over would leave me in the green.



2015. Post 51420986 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on June 10, 2019, 12:41:17 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland. Geeze it's 8:30AM. What's happening to me? I used to be an "up at the crack of noon" kind of guy. Now I'm keeping farmers' hours. It's the GF's fault. She drags me off to bed earlier and wakes me up earlier every day.
Wink wink nudge nudge apart (picnic bears already took care of that), that's one thing I don't like when I have a steady GF. They've always gone farmer on me, every single time.



2016. Post 51421071 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Boring. You can do better, come on. And mind da joos.



2017. Post 51421150 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

When Homer comes up with a solution, it's always deeply satisfying! Cheesy



2018. Post 51421549 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

@roach Minor grammar issues ('infinite numbers of lies' was perhaps supposed to be 'an infinite number of lies'?), some unnecessary hyperbole (it can't be infinite anyway given the physical constraints), and no mention of any minority... well alright, what really matters to me is I liked the Keynesian Chuck E Cheese tokens bit. Thank you!  Cheesy



2019. Post 51421766 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 09, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
It’sad to be out of merit!
Not that sad if some fellow bitcoiner has your back Wink



2020. Post 51421941 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: fabiorem on June 10, 2019, 07:29:19 PM
This smerit system needs a revision. It should grant points per participation in the topics. Me too dont have any smerit to send to him.
We already have that (that's activity). Am I missing something? As I understand it, the merit system has been introduced just so that spammers couldn't gain status by simply shitposting all over the place.

Maybe start a thread on meta? If it gains traction or it's really good, you might get a reply from someone who can actually change things.



2021. Post 51428662 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 11, 2019, 11:46:50 AM

Google, you're lazy, slow, wrong.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51415020#msg51415020
And it's getting lazier and wronger every day.
They recently removed the number of results, along with the approximate indication of how many more pages of results there are. Now you just get a "next >>"
And Google arrows haven't been working for years already.
More opaqueness for us.
Enjoy.



2022. Post 51429331 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: jojo69 on June 11, 2019, 12:54:00 PM
Unfortunately the duck isnt't really up to speed either.  I have been making a habit of using it first, as using it will probably make it better, but it needs to get better.

The internet is fucking broke IMO.
I like startpage better than the duck. Customizable too.



2023. Post 51432517 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 11, 2019, 06:04:18 PM
I still question the extent to which DT actually adds value to the forum, rather than contributing to some kind of semi-quasi-irrelevant popularity contest... which might even unwittingly contribute to the enabling of long cons, in certain circumstances.
Indeed, I maintain that trust should be awarded exclusively based on trades or other kinds of financial transactions (escrow etc). Otherwise, it really becomes a sort of popularity contest, with con artists that one fine day choose to perform a sort of exit scam.

This might happen even with properly trade-based trust of course, but with much lower likelihood IMO.



2024. Post 51432652 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

<dreamworld>
Quote from: alevlaslo on June 11, 2019, 06:39:04 PM
By the way, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi for one simple reason: if it were not so, would now be shown the real Satoshi by move BTC from the old address. There can be no such thing that no one knows who Satoshi is, the community would certainly have reacted in an exhaustive manner to the grant of a patent to Wright if he were not Satoshi. Creator or Wright, or an alien from the future, the other can not be
Right. It cannot possibly be anyone else.
</dreamworld>



2025. Post 51439623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on June 12, 2019, 05:35:08 AM
Good morning brothers

The new flag system: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0

New dimension of the forum 🤪
That's more like it. I think Theymos did a good job.

TL;DR Trust for trades, flags for marking jerks. Good.



2026. Post 51442359 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

I think we're in for a very interesting week.



2027. Post 51442823 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 12, 2019, 03:41:17 PM
Welp my leveraged long has flipped green.  That’s nice.
Mine hasn't yet, but I managed to scrape a few good scalps by growing/shrinking the short leg, which is still green albeit small.



2028. Post 51442977 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 12, 2019, 04:04:30 PM
Good morning brothers

The new flag system: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0

New dimension of the forum

Great! Additional opportunities for clique-based, in-crowd, virtue-signaling, social-engineering, playground bullying! /s
At least, it is supposed to help by keeping trade reliability separate from petty personal issues.



2029. Post 51448095 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

(Feel the Longing)

Quote from: realr0ach on June 12, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
It's not a negative that physical metals as money are NOT CONDUCIVE to globalization, it's A FEATURE - a positive one.
(snip)
artificial scarcity Keynesian scam

Quote from: realr0ach on June 13, 2019, 12:55:04 AM
In the earlier days of Bitcoin, just about everyone in (this thread) was pro-metals.

A word like 'keynesian'
and wall thread history, nearly
meriting a roach


(Sour acknowledgement)

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 12, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Don't get me wrong.. standing up for the sour puss, roach, but he has received much more than 12 merits.  In fact, he has received 194 merits from other members since the implementation of the merit system.   You can see all of his received merits on BPIP.  Currently, he is ranked as 312th most merited, which is no small feat given the thousands of BTC talk members... also, kinds of contradicts his points about only the undeserved receiving merits, and he seems to be a kind of "undeserved" merit receiver... while quite stingy in giving out any merits..

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 12, 2019, 10:36:02 PM
So, for me, the quantity of Roach's merits is a kind of "who gives a shit?" consideration.


Quoting the ignored
i was wishing for
'who gives a ratt's ass'



2030. Post 51448157 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Once I start meriting legendaries there's no end to it. Until there is.



2031. Post 51454980 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Higher highs, higher lows. The weekend has begun with a little advance - just like the old times.



2032. Post 51462209 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Masterluc posted a ~3-month head and shoulder chart without any comment but a laugh.
On that chart, we're at the top of the right shoulder.



2033. Post 51462227 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Good kitty, thanky thanky  Grin



2034. Post 51462286 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 14, 2019, 07:32:49 AM
Masterluc posted a 3-month head and shoulder chart without any comment but a laugh.
On that chart, we're at the top of the right shoulder.
Most head and shoulder charts are scam. Some get it right by pure coincidence (1mil predictions, 1 bound to be right). Ignore.

masterluc throws a lot of shit at the wall, some of it sticks but most of it doesn’t. His predictions are more hit than moss these days, I don’t know why he still gets the air time here.
For the sake of discussion, I guess. He gained his spotlight long time ago with one bold long term prediction that he got right. Since then, I think his utterances deserve a mention here. More so than, say, Vays's. I do agree he's been misfiring quite a lot lately, like 50/50 - which hints at randomness.



2035. Post 51466195 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 14, 2019, 08:01:22 AM
Baggage is ill again. wtf she needs those hideous old melons for idk
anyway lots of weeping and hospital visits. hideous expense. probably should just let her go idk
won't be here so much, lucky fellas.
If it's what I make it out to be, it's going to be a bumpy journey but it could all be good in the end. Be strong for both.



2036. Post 51468943 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: nutildah on June 14, 2019, 05:57:10 PM
I don't know what inspired me to find this post... Think I was reading through rpietla's competing WO thread and saw a comment by SaddamBitcoin (don't know what happened to that guy, maybe he struck it rich with XMR and fucked off)...

Anyway, its to lighten the mood a bit (if it needs lightening), and I don't know where else to post it, but I want to archive it somewhere else than its original moderated thread, and where I'll remember where it is.

(snip)

I felt kind of guilty about the whole affair so I just deleted the post without taking the 5 XMR. Apparently they were real pictures of him actually peeing on his head!

So that's my story, hope you liked it. I laughed hard when I saw it for the first time in 4 and a half years. If it made you smile, mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished!

The only reason I don't merit your post - both entertaining and historically relevant - is because I'm done with meriting legendaries for the moment - keeping my last one for someone who needs some to advance.

+1 WOsMerit

Sidenote: without any meta-related drama, I think SaddamBitcoin earned some "trust" when he upheld his hard end of the bargain. I don't mean "Trust", but if there were good flags, I'd have spent one on him  Grin



2037. Post 51469082 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: infofront on June 14, 2019, 07:04:15 PM
Almost 6 years married now. I'd like some more variety (vagiety?), but still going strong. I got her fresh off the boat though. YMMV

TLDR: Asian mail order brides still recommended
I feel your longing for vagiety. That's what most healthy males are after, admit it or not. It's biology, you know. The chromothingies or something. You sound like you're golden anyway, with children and all. If I feel like marrying one day, I'll come to you for advice about a suitable mail order agency.

And you could try some beer training after all, even if at first it fails to be ice cold. A little patience goes a long way. I very much liked the nonverbal cues bit too, and the work uniform - apron wins over plastic wrap for me, but whatever rocks your boat.



2038. Post 51469525 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: infofront on June 14, 2019, 07:29:54 PM
You're #1 on my list gentlemand  Kiss
Careful with your wishes, infofront. Whatever dear Uncle D might say or write, once you get in the cellar you're done for.



2039. Post 51470167 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: mindrust on June 14, 2019, 09:26:16 PM
Blergh, had a short position on.  I should stop trying to outclever the market, it's costing me a fair amount of my stack lately  Cry ....

Opening shorts in the middle of a bull market... Are you mad son?
Well I recently did, but only against a worrying long position. I managed to cash some of the short at a decent distance from my entry. Then the stop loss closed what was left of it (still in the green). Now my long is green too, and it has a stop loss just shy of the red, just in case.

In other words: I think in some circumstances, a short position is OK when a bearish stance may not be.



2040. Post 51470239 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: Hueristic on June 14, 2019, 09:20:00 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator
I think I know where this pic was shot and by who.

@infofront Whatever he says about boring movie binges, this is what actually happens down there. Don't say I didn't tell you.



2041. Post 51470456 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

VEGETA we're waiting!!!  Grin Grin Grin



2042. Post 51471227 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

^^ this



2043. Post 51475538 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: Lauda on June 15, 2019, 09:10:14 AM
Apart from fundamentals (they should go down anyway), it's most likely Binance news.
Hey Bob, do you still want to sell some at 11K?
Well, glad I have no ability to short on Gemini, and not sure what possessed me to consider a small short position. Nice to see the corn growing. Not FOMOing into these prices.
Should have read my post and ignored the scam head and shoulder call by another TA conman. Bitcoin does not play by your rules, Bitcoin makes its own rules.

No, do not plan on selling any corn before 2021-2022 - After the halvening - at which point, will be looking to divest a mil or two, to buy a ranch with Rick.
Excellent plan.

By the way, after laughing silently at the H&S pattern, here's Masterluc latest update.

Quote from: Masterluc
The right shoulder is too high by now, the pattern is breaking.

So maybe his noncommital "he he he" comment at the Head & Shoulders was just a way to chicken out of any prediction.



2044. Post 51475589 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: serveria.com on June 15, 2019, 06:43:04 AM
Play money



First person ever to earn a fortune with his playmoney
If it is bitmex, the ROE figure doesn't necessarily mean what one thinks - it's computed including leverage. It's not a multiplier to your position, but only to your posted margin. Still quite good though. It might easily mean 100% on the position, depending on margin strategy.

Congrats Hairy! That's likely beer money for quite some time.  Cool



2045. Post 51475641 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: Lauda on June 15, 2019, 11:32:42 AM
By the way, after laughing silently at the H&S pattern, here's Masterluc latest update.

Quote from: Masterluc
The right shoulder is too high by now, the pattern is breaking.

So maybe his noncommital "he he he" comment at the Head & Shoulders was just a way to chicken out of any prediction.

I told ya'. Smiley The only reason for which that dude was ever correct about anything is because he made an absurd number of predictions.
Well to be fair his first prediction - which gave him the spotlight - was both right and isolated. Only after that did he gain followers and start shooting randomly.

But yeah, you got it right and put my unease back at ease  Kiss Luv pretty kittens.



2046. Post 51475668 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 15, 2019, 10:35:35 AM
This is what I call überbullish:

Quote
Both #Bitcoin S2F growth path (95% R2) and Commodity Stock-to-Flow Line (99.5% R2) point to Bitcoin with S2F100+ and $30trn total market value, after 2024 halving.

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1139837446861000705?s=21



Also this defines value in HODLING.
No point in selling before another two halving unless absolutely necessary.
Remember that historically market value overshoot theoretical SF value 200%, but never fell below 50%, hence hodling is asymmetrical.
Does this analysis take into account the decreasing impact of halvenings as time goes by? I believe 2020 will be the last halvening with macroscopic effects.



2047. Post 51497565 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 15, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Closing the meal with this one on the side of my cappuccino ....

What is it??

And are we almost Vegeta??

That’s probably a Jagermeister.

Anyway: cappuccino after 11:00 AM is a yellow card in Italy.
Hmmm. No slack for people who wake up at the crack of noon or later?  Cool



2048. Post 51497911 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 16, 2019, 03:50:11 AM
I am reserving my celebratory jig until we get back on dooglus' top 100 days post (at about $9230 IIRC). Seeing as we may see $10K by end of Monday, it shouldn't be too much of a hardship to wait.
Big movements on Mondays are uncommon IME... but she does whatever she likes anyway.



2049. Post 51499072 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 17, 2019, 10:04:26 AM
[img witdh=200]https://i.imgflip.com/33juwq.jpg[/img]via Imgflip Meme Generator
Closing the meal with this one on the side of my cappuccino ....

What is it??

And are we almost Vegeta??
That’s probably a Jagermeister.

Anyway: cappuccino after 11:00 AM is a yellow card in Italy.
Hmmm. No slack for people who wake up at the crack of noon or later?  Cool
No.
Bullying late capuccinos is socially accepted.

Too bad  Sad

Maybe I have a chance early in the morning on a very late night...



2050. Post 51505385 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: BinaryReign on June 17, 2019, 11:54:34 PM
Greetings fellow Wall Observers.

I found myself with some extra cash, and want to get more bitcoin with it. My problem is for a couple days now I think “I’ll just wait for a dip”,.. but nothing considerable ever comes, even on Sunday. I was hoping for $7,800, then $8,200, then $8,800

Now I’m starting to feel like I should just FOMO buy. However, in the past whenever I’ve done that, the dip happens right after I buy.

So

It doesn’t seem like I should wait much longer, but should I? What is a good target price I should try to buy at? Today? Tomorrow? Help? Thanks in advance  Grin
Sure, you can try to spare some fiat or get more bitcoin for the same fiat sum, but is it wise in a bull phase? I'd say it isn't.

Buy it when you have the money. The best time to buy was yesterday, but the second best is today.



2051. Post 51505402 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: Ibian on June 18, 2019, 12:00:11 AM
Would you like to answer any of the charges against your faith?
You manage to be both petulant and curt. I admire your versatility.

But Roach is much better IMO. And easier for quick filtering scans.



2052. Post 51506064 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: bitserve on June 18, 2019, 12:14:11 AM
Nothing. In fact I do despise Islam.
I despise all major monotheistic religions with the exception of Pastafarianism. Islam is just doing what Christianity was doing a few centuries ago: mass "conversions" and suppression of internal dissent. As for Hebraism, they didn't get a chance for several reasons. They basically got the wrong end of the stick and never had an army until the 20th century.



2053. Post 51510254 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: gentlemand on June 18, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
Our dear friend and cheerleader Izabella Kaminska is not impressed - https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/06/18/1560848464000/Alphaville-s-Libra-cheat-sheet/

+1 WOsMerit

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 18, 2019, 09:37:34 AM
^^ https://archive.is/YIu9J
archive of izzy's post https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/06/18/1560848464000/Alphaville-s-Libra-cheat-sheet/

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/uk-world/917090/everything-you-need-to-know-about-facebooks-cryptocurrency/
Dundee Courier spreads the news

it's all over my news feed thinger - never seen one story dominate like this


this is good news for Bitcoin.
Thank you, V8! I was going to ask gentlemand for an unwalled link, but you beat me to it.

+1 WOsMerit



2054. Post 51517157 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: bitserve on June 18, 2019, 07:59:37 PM
Mic

Saw this and thought of you



I need to ask. Why the two satellite antennas oriented towards ground?

It's the southern hemisphere, that's why.
Oh wait what, it isn't? It's too much beer then.



2055. Post 51523615 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 19, 2019, 04:28:45 AM
Actually, I would assert that way more than 99% of the peeps here don't give two shits about attempting to invade the privacy of the personal lives of other members here, but there is an industry that goes around and targets various individuals, and likely they would target the individuals with weaker opsec.. or if they can find any possible exploitable chink in the armor.
By the time she gets to 50k we'll all be targets for more than nosy malware. Imagine at 100k or more. People routinely do horrible things for peanuts. Mind your details, corn brothers.

BTW, I didn't get the opsec flaw in kenzawak's post. He routinely writes about his location, was it just that? I haven't looked into it anyway, but I'm sure being the smart guy he is, any slippery reference has been cleaned up.



2056. Post 51523717 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 19, 2019, 05:02:49 AM
USD is the global reserve currency.  Making it a basket of currencies is very international but unnecessarily complicated things, in a way that a Venezuelan with a grade 3 education will struggle to understand.

Facebook dun goofed.  It should be a USD stable coin only.

I disagree. USD is the global reserve currency, and someone stuck with pesos will be more than happy with USD, euro or yen, whatever. However, print, print and print, the greenback will probably lose some value in the medium term. I think the mixed basket thing is to make libra more palatable to people in the first world.



2057. Post 51523744 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Quote from: kenzawak on June 19, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
My account here got compromised about two weeks ago.
Sh** I'd missed that!  Shocked
Glad to see you're back in control. How much was the ransom?  Tongue



2058. Post 51530518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 19, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
I paid a two dollars fee to move 0.1btc, not even one hour later and it already have four confirmations.

We dont need big blocks.
I think 2$ and 20minutes to wait it's too slow and too expensive for people in 2019  Undecided

To send it to the other side of the planet? 

IOW, TL;GAH

Two bucks, half an hour.
No censorship, verify!
Bother sparing dimes?



2059. Post 51534709 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Globb0 on June 20, 2019, 08:33:58 AM


Yeah that’s pretty cool, when are you planning to get it done? Show a pic of it when you get it done.

You will see it first! I plan on this weekend

Best of luck, brother.

Don't want to ruin a party for Tattoo's lovers and its simple piece of advice. If you already finalized the BTC rocket design, then I suggest before final ink, put this on your wall for at least 3-4 months, where you can see this every day and if after a couple of months you still want this design on your body then go for it.

That's how I am going to choose a design for myself if I ever plan to get ink on my body.

Flawed, just go for it  Cool

I still don't regret any of mine Tongue

You are biased in this topic :p

Even I suggest him to hire a concept artist for a couple of 100 bucks and create a unique sketch-designs regarding BTC, not some random design from the google.

Tattoos are not good opsec.  Tattoos about BTC can be quite problematic, and disclosing them on the interwebs is exacerbates the problematic direction.  Hopefully, the vast majority of peeps are giving some mature attention to their choices in this direction, including time to consider whether their tatooing decision is good, in spite of some of the "feels good man" emotions that they might experience in the direction of such purported personalization of their meat wagons.

I think this presumes too much.

Its not that hard to get a list of rich people. They don't all hide away.

Why will bitcoin be different from the windfall of daddy's import export company millions? They will probably be quaffing champagne in the same wine bars.
Windfall from daddy puts you in the news. Daddy is probably famous. You too are soon going to be if you aren't already. The bad guys can keep their sights on you easily: no need to stalk the classy wine bars.

On the contrary, holding a nice pile of bitcoin doesn't make any noise or turn any spotlight on you - even if you participate in crazy hodler forums like this one here. As long as you don't post details that can help attackers complete the puzzle. Where you live, what you look like, which places you visit, things like this.

Careful, bros.



2060. Post 51534760 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 19, 2019, 08:33:10 PM

Good to see your presence here is affected only in quantity.
+1 WOsMerit

(Trouble, strife, regards.)



2061. Post 51534949 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: lightfoot on June 20, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
I might be late on this.
What's wrong with the poll?

In your absence, a decision was made by the higher-ups that the polls should only now be for Hero members and above.



:-)

Sshhh... only four months are left for jokes of this kind on fillippone - more or less. Don't spoil it.
 Tongue Tongue Tongue

@fillippone You're swimming with the heavyweights already, didn't you notice?



2062. Post 51540009 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Torque on June 20, 2019, 03:30:52 PM
So I'm thinking this libra nonsense will get heavily regulated, the states would be insane not to. And that will then be used as an excuse to regulate crypto in general, and bitcoin especially. It might be a good time to get around to moving elsewhere for those planning to do so.

Facebook has the money, clout, and kompromat to bulldoze through regulation.

They already track FB account user data to sell to the ad agencies, retail companies, and government agencies. The next logical step is to link your captured user data to what you routinely spend your money on, and how much of it.

Libra will help them do just that. And that will be perfectly fine with the regulators.

This.

and +1 WOsMerit. I'm dry with the boring standard ones, but I see you already got a bunch for this post. WO peeps are nice Smiley



2063. Post 51540236 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on June 20, 2019, 05:26:44 PM
I've been hiding under my hat lately.  I really liked your smile so I went with it Wink
Hope it fits!



 Avatar-sized


The last few hats you churned out are your top jobs yet! This has beautiful colors and framing, and bitmover's, wow, bitmover's. The hat club is becoming a very stylish place.



2064. Post 51540465 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 20, 2019, 07:51:02 PM
Some malicious peeps are likely thinking:  "sure is nice that BTC is irreversible and puts a lot of value in the hands of relatively naive normies."
Indeed. Irreversibility is a neutral, double edged sword. It calls for responsibility.



2065. Post 51540480 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 20, 2019, 07:43:27 PM
Childsplay, hope its good....
Bitcoin moving, weekend price?
Ten-thousand a piece!

Keep at it Mic! This was a good one Wink



2066. Post 51540516 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quaffing champagne in some classy wine bar are we? Is it the windfall from daddy or what?

Joke's not on you. You just cued my line  Wink



2067. Post 51540549 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: qwizzie on June 20, 2019, 08:11:24 PM

Smash & grab. Everybody thinks it's the last chance to get in below 10k because after that price goes up in increments of 10k.


Would be interesting to see if that FOMO theory that certain people connect to the $10.000 price is true or not.
I have a hunch we're going to check that theory soon enough  Cool



2068. Post 51543577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: realr0ach on June 21, 2019, 01:08:33 AM

(rephrase of his general theory about rigged markets - not the "single entity bitfinex" routine)

(a few numbers about future performance of metals)

(copy/paste from recent post)

Quote from: STT on June 20, 2019, 10:22:57 PM
Might be completely ironic like a twitter parody account possibly

Indeed. He might even be a middle class, well educated jew.


On the horizon
we see 10k. Oh, and Roach...?
Don't copy, don't paste.



2069. Post 51543580 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 20, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Thusrday up the F***
JJG must, when tattoo Mr freeman?
Never stop playing!

Ehhmmm, in the practice phase a few duds are to be expected.

In other (non)words,
Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 21, 2019, 01:09:18 AM




2070. Post 51555192 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Torque on June 21, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
I think Libra will be the most convenient stablecoin. With a BTC/Libra pair, you can easily use your BTC trading profits to order a taxi with uber/lyft, renew your Spotify subscription or book a hotel on booking.com. There is no need to sell your BTC for usd/euro and then withdraw from exchange to your bank account which takes what? 2-3 business days?

Libra is what all those shitcoins/tokens have tried to accomplish for 2-3 years now by making a crypto card that allows you to easily spent your crypto on goods and services. If it works well and is convenient to use it will make the lives of Bitcoiners easier, if you are willing to sacrifice some of your privacy.
Most real life cases didn't involve any shitcoin. I mean debit cards backed by hard btc, ideally with honest commissions and exchange rates. So why have they failed? They ran into problems with the preexisting monopolists (Visa etc). Visa complained and refused to carry that kind of business. Banks accounts locked and other niceties. That's why. Something is resurfacing slowly but surely. Libra could be a positive actor in this phase, possibly by being an easy, convenient alternative and eventually lowering the bar for more competition.

Quote from: Torque on June 21, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
...and only the Millennials, GenZ'ers, and other clueless pleebs will be willing.

Zuckerberg, is that you?
Not as much as Torque, probably, but I am a bit of the paranoid kind. I wouldn't mind spending some libra on uber that much, but should it or can it even possibly be the only way? Risk of an all-encompassing spying monopoly written in big wet letters on the wall.

What if smaller actors can fly on the mighty dragon's piggyback? Assuming the protocol is provably private, it can be worth a try. Provable privacy requires open sourcing the details, I would say. That's where the devil is as usual. At present it's just marketing bait with probability 0.755 (JJ, the third digit is for you).



2071. Post 51555205 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 21, 2019, 02:28:48 PM
Still need 10000BTC to do anything I want whenever I want.

You must have lofty goals & targets Grin Cheesy
10,000BTC is over 97 million USD.
Loftier than that. He means 10k btc when she hits 100k.



2072. Post 51555487 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: rebal15 on June 21, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Well, isn't this guy just a ray of sunshine


I just ckecked and it turns out that I'm also going to die some day sheeeeit

he is someone who has no brain connection with other parts of his body like micgoossens. for exemple, his tongue is not controlled by his brain.
Have you tasted it? I mean tongue, not brain.



2073. Post 51559734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on June 21, 2019, 02:13:11 AM
<-- MicG's 10k hat

Anybody want to help him out?  Pick one Smiley


I'm wearing sky blue to celebrate our return to 5 digits. Up up and away!

Thanks xhomerx10, you're serious added value.



2074. Post 51559760 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

What if 20k is the new 10k? In other words, from a SOMA psychological viewpoint, isn't it possible that major jitter and support/resistance play happens around 20k rather than 10k this time?



2075. Post 51560299 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: bitserve on June 22, 2019, 02:33:54 AM
One thing is for sure. Nobody expected this at this moment. We (all) know fucking nothing. Just HODL.
Out of merits, bro, but that's it. She does what she does. All the time.



2076. Post 51561734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: BinaryReign on June 17, 2019, 11:54:34 PM
Greetings fellow Wall Observers.

I found myself with some extra cash, and want to get more bitcoin with it. My problem is for a couple days now I think “I’ll just wait for a dip”,.. but nothing considerable ever comes, even on Sunday. I was hoping for $7,800, then $8,200, then $8,800

Now I’m starting to feel like I should just FOMO buy. However, in the past whenever I’ve done that, the dip happens right after I buy.

So

It doesn’t seem like I should wait much longer, but should I? What is a good target price I should try to buy at? Today? Tomorrow? Help? Thanks in advance  Grin
So did you buy soonish as I suggested (along with someone else)?



2077. Post 51566779 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: mindrust on June 22, 2019, 01:36:35 PM
Ok, shit is getting serious. And I have to prepare for the next real run. Want to cash out 50% @$50k. My Bitcoins are on a paper wallet. And I yet did not redeemed my Bcash and other forks. I need advice what wallet is recommended these days for Bitcoin, Bcash, BSV, BGold and all the other forks I get after redeem my Bitcoins.

You do realise that you ABSOLUTELY MUST move your bitcoin’s to another wallet before you claim the forks, right?

I’m sure you do but please do not try & claim BCH when your bitcoin’s are still in said address.

Regarding claiming -

BCH - Electrum Cash
BTG - I think I used Coinimi

Edit - Just import your private keys into the above wallets, simple.

BSV, I didn’t have any as I spent all my BCH.
There are a load of other shit forks you can claim on Coinimi too.

Import your priv keys into electrum and always move your coins to a different private key before you claim anything.

I believe bcash has its own electrum version. You can try it.

No idea about BSV and bGold. Did bgold long time ago.

+1 Merit to mindrust & LFC for trustworthy, good advice to Underdog.
Somebody help me out, I have 0 sendables.

Thanks!

But you sure its a good idea to leave this stuff on your laptop? I use a Macbook Pro. What if it gets broken, got stolen or something else?
I thought you guys would recommend me Ledger or so.

You can always extract your private keys from electrum, write them down (paper wallet style), delete your wallet files/format your PC.

I use electrum just like this.

No HW wallet here.

@deathangel - mindrust does it again. Bitcoin mechanics in pills.

Come on gentlemen, juss' one merit pleease...



2078. Post 51567200 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Yefi also has a Bitcoin Mechanics day, it seems. Pereira asking the questions again. At times I wish a merit source. Already asked for help, haven't I. Well whatever, both are legends already.

Quote from: pereira4 on June 22, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
If yes, then I would still be paranoid of seed bruteforcing. There's something about Electrum that wouldn't allow me to sleep at night with any relevant amount of money in there.

The seed is just another way of representing a random 128-bit number. You'll have about as much luck bruteforcing that as a private key.

Keyword: a key. It would only take getting lucky once to get all of your money. With a wallet.dat you would need to go address by address. Who knows what those fuckers have in store when it comes to quantum computers within a couple of decades. Plus any mistakes on your part leading to key derivation exploits... yeah no thanks. Electrum seems like a bad idea for serious cold storaging.


Quote from: yefi on June 22, 2019, 04:48:50 PM
The security of Bitcoin derives not from having many keys, but from having strong keys to begin with. The point at which randomly generated private keys become vulnerable to folk "getting lucky" we have a massive problem on our hands.

By the way, Bitcoin Core since like 0.13 I think has used deterministic wallets, so all your keys in wallet.dat are derived from a single master key now.

IOW, basically the same number of bits to crack - by sheer luck or quantum wizardry - as Electrum. If someone feels unsafe, they could divide the funds into multiple wallets, Core or Electrum or a mix (I'd keep it simple. Security by obscurity is bad anyway). Each wallet has its own master key or word sequence. The word seq can be seen as a master key in longer, human form.

Ideally, if you compress the sequence as hard as you can, the binary zip you are left with behaves much like a binary master key in Core style. The inverse process - from Core key to seed - isn't actually available that I know of, but it is entirely possible, easier if you're allowed some slack when "unzipping" - an extra word or something.



2079. Post 51567365 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Thanks lightfoot   Grin



2080. Post 51585256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on June 24, 2019, 01:19:54 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $11k continues... currently $10901USD/$14375CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Last week it was the battle for $9k, the week before that, the battle for $8k. This is proceeding quite nicely.

Go Bitcoin go.

You're our hero, Jimbo!

Hey, watch out. You're gonna make this go to my head.



Puny assets like WOsMerits probably mean little to a True Legend, but what's due is due.

+1 WOsMerit for being the badassest of the bunch.



2081. Post 51588576 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Biodom on June 24, 2019, 04:58:11 PM
OK, made by own "2017 vs 2019" overlay:



About 80K 2019 local top...I can live with that  Cheesy
... and if the overlay is true to details (which of course it isn't), the lowest retrace would be to ~9.5k.



2082. Post 51595009 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on June 25, 2019, 07:40:12 AM
Woke up with a familiar tune in my head - not sure the lyrics are quite right

Bitcoin mooning in the dead of night...

take these broken wings and learn to fly...
take this shiny dildo to the sky...

ftfy



2083. Post 51605353 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: gentlemand on June 25, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
That was my first thinking but I wouldn’t even know where to start.
I’m nowhere near selling anything now but I really want to be prepared this time.

I sold my BCH in late 2017. That was quite a lot of money but I transferred it into bitcoin & sold it to a few people on LBC. I don’t think I want to be selling hundreds of thousands of pounds worth on LB in this cycle.

https://genesistrading.com

https://www.b2c2.com

https://cumberland.io

https://www.circle.com/en-gb/trade

I think LBC would still be a very good option as long as you stick with the biggest traders. I've read of others on r/bitcoinuk who sold 500 grand and more to one person in one go. It would be more sensible to break the sales up but it's likely whichever bank they go to will have kittens.

Quote from: gentlemand on June 25, 2019, 09:31:08 AM
Thanks man, I’m saving this post.
That’s the next thing isn’t it, worrying about our personal banks Grin

This is one of the handful of threads where I've seen a few OTC experiences discussed.

Boy, are they hard to come by - https://old.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/8ecm6h/otc_what_are_your_experiences/?sort=confidence

If you don't already you should keep an eye on here - https://old.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/  as cashing out experiences and bank discussion turn up fairly regularly.

Quote from: Hueristic on June 25, 2019, 03:33:57 PM
This is a good point.

Quote
Do you really request whether you want to sell/buy before you get the quote? When you do such a transaction in a financial market you always say that you want both the buy/sell price first so the market maker cant take advatage of you. You tell him later if you want to buy/sell.

The WOT delivers.

+5 WOsMerit to be split among 3 gentlemen.

One goes to LFC for asking the right question - which I second and have asked myself in the past, WOT or elsewhere, with less than satisfactory results. For example, do all those cards from Gibraltar actually work as of now? I never got positive confirmation.



2084. Post 51614590 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 26, 2019, 02:55:45 PM
The good news:

The bull is really on fire  Grin


The bad news:

A real correction should come in soon, it is very unusual that after a 400% runup in 2,5 months every dip is bought up with big strength.

I do not believe we will see ATH in July, thus i will be closing all my longs and prepare for a real big judas candle.



Overall, a correction would be healthy now, though its bitcoin and we could see ATH by next month lol.

Stops yes.  Close no.  

Trying to pick the top in advance is a recipe to exit and FOMO back in.  Let the market take you out of your position, not the other way around. 

Good advice from Hairy as usual.

Disclosure - I am actually manually adjusting a trailing stop on my long position, lifting it up as we go along.

I also have a short position (badly suffering of course), but it's small, so the net balance is green by a good deal.
My idea is - when it corrects, the stop will sell off enough of the long to remain slightly long on the whole, and I will cash out some profit. As (if) it keeps goes down, I'll also close the short a bit at a time, scraping off a little more.

If I were to close everything as it is now, it would be like ~+2.8% on my play money. I'm playing it very safe. Regular behavior would have made me like 5%, and with a little boldness it would be more like 10%.



2085. Post 51614677 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: Hueristic on June 26, 2019, 03:07:37 PM
Jeez...I go away for a day or so and now I have to have another FOMO/PUMP party and play the music because BTC is over 12K now.

Damn, better play my music again and theme song: Secret Agent Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGZ0ntpSx2Y

Obviously, This playlist thread below is the reason Bitcoin is pumping, so it is all on me to continue the fomo/hodl/pump party

Add your own fomo/pump/hodl music to my thread on this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157131.msg51604550#msg51604550


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157131.msg51611076#msg51611076

...For example, do all those cards from Gibraltar actually work as of now? I never got positive confirmation.

I spent a few hours searching yesterday and couldn't find one that was available to Us residents and not marked all over scam sites. Many link to messages "no longer available".

We need a list of safe active Charge card sites.

Thanks for the reply Hueristic. I did the same some (little) time ago, and you confirm my results. There doesn't seem be even a single trustworthy actor in this field yet. I blame it on the monopolists.



2086. Post 51617679 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on June 26, 2019, 06:56:18 PM
Isn't that indicator total bs? I mean, it's futures right?  Not money being borrowed, but contracts that always have an equal amount of counterparties, if I am not mistaken.

I don't have a clue how the indicator could be contrived not to compute to 1.0. Until the number providers shed some light on the voodoo, that figure can probably be safely ignored.

The closest thing to a short/long indicator on Bitmex is the relationship between the swap price and btc spot price (Stamp, Coinbase Pro and Kraken average) and its reflection on the funding rate. In bullish periods, the swap is more expensive than actual btc. In this case, funding has shorters get paid by longers; otherwise, when it's bear time and the swap is cheap, funding rate goes negative and it's longers that get paid.



2087. Post 51635481 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

I'm lagging a baker's dozen pages behind, so I apologize if this has already been mentioned.
Have you read Bitmex Research Team's piece on Libra?

https://blog.bitmex.com/facebook-takes-on-etf-giant-blackrock-with-a-fixed-income-etf-libra/

Always an interesting point of view.



2088. Post 51636768 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 27, 2019, 08:30:32 PM

Who is that.......?
That post is dated Dec 2, 2018. We did find the local bottom just a little above 3k. Not that far out, actually. We're a bit ahead of the times, as several noted WO posters already pointed out. Masterluc's never been one for accurate short term predictions, but this is longer term, and I could live with his 200k by Dec 2020 estimate.

(Lag disclaimer - I'm a dozen or so pages behind, so apologizing in advance if this discussion's stale already.)



2089. Post 51637715 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

I see my comment about Masterluc was indeed stale - gentlemand laid it down long before I did. I hope the next one isn't. I'm still catching up. Under 10 pages behind atm, but I've got a life and my WOT'ing is episodic these days. I should also change my hat but whatever.

Quote from: dyask on June 27, 2019, 10:19:59 PM

It's an idiot scam chart.

(snip - unusually some sense with no joo talk)

That is the lamest argument!  
1) Production cost of BTC is always changing and mostly climbing up.    When BTC is $225,000 the cost of producing it will much much higher than $3000 to $6000 USD.  
2) The current cost is in the $3000 to $4000 range but BTC is trading at over $10000.   Why do people trade it when they could mine it so much cheaper?  

I think the issue with realr0ach is mixing up marginal cost (cost for mining your next bitcoin) - and initial, fixed and recurrent costs (buying the equipment before Bitmain makes sure it's obsolete by using it "for testing", maintaining it). Those initial costs are too much of a risk. Risk a dozen grand so I can mine 0.4 coins at 3k per coin over a few months? I wouldn't do it, personally, if I didn't know damn well what it entails. Not even OG miners here do. My numbers might be off - I know jackshit about mining - but work out the arithmetic and see what you come up with.



2090. Post 51649632 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Dear r0ach, thanks for your post. My guesstimate is you made it to 90% of the ignore lists here. I'm in the other 10% because I love your impersonation. As I already said, you're probably a middle class, well educated Jew, politically engaged in an undercover operation to ridicule and undermine the alt-right.

Quote from: realr0ach on June 29, 2019, 02:45:47 AM
You braindead, idiot scammers in this thread have NEVER once explained how the price of Bitcoin can go to $500k or even $50k while cost of production is $3-6k.
We did. I know I did recently.

Quote from: d_eddie on June 28, 2019, 04:11:02 PM
I think the issue with realr0ach is mixing up marginal cost (cost for mining your next bitcoin) - and initial, fixed and recurrent costs (buying the equipment before Bitmain makes sure it's obsolete by using it "for testing", maintaining it). Those initial costs are too much of a risk. Risk a dozen grand so I can mine 0.4 coins at 3k per coin over a few months? I wouldn't do it, personally, if I didn't know damn well what it entails. Not even OG miners here do. My numbers might be off - I know jackshit about mining - but work out the arithmetic and see what you come up with.

Of course, the explanation wasn't for you - you won't listen, as all the regulars know.

I did it just so the occasional newcomer doesn't get caught in your net of lies.



2091. Post 51649774 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 29, 2019, 08:40:08 AM
That said, these tools surrounding the SV protocol are standalone items created by unrelated individuals. So Craig is not involved in these. What's more, nChain is not involved. See, SV is a wonderously rich ecosystem of scaMs of unrelated parties all building atop Bitcoin something more or less like bcash.

Further, perhpas you missed where I clearly stated "... concatenate them upon retrieval into original large files"

FTFY  Tongue



2092. Post 51649860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

How good to see Elwar around Smiley



2093. Post 51658531 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

No Saturday pump
11k-12k range
calm before fireworks



2094. Post 51659672 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 30, 2019, 02:01:36 PM
Ok let's see if we can work with this.

Upper line is the impossible dream line.  Lower line is the support we just formed  Grin



Good volume rally fightback please
How did you work out the angle for the lower line?



2095. Post 51660302 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: fillippone on June 30, 2019, 02:47:53 PM


What’s this red dildo?!
It’s the weekend!
It’s supposed to be weekend pump!

What's this red dildo?
Let's go back to weekend pumps!
Consolidation?

(I hope you don't mind me tweaking your fine post into a lame haiku  Grin)



2096. Post 51661634 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 30, 2019, 05:07:34 PM
Chartbuddy stopped posting more that three years ago, yet JJG continues.......   Wink Wink

Fuck chartbuddy, and his/her/its lack of stick-with-it-ness.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Same bot, one just not active anymore Tongue
...says the first and foremost Team Leader guy  Tongue



2097. Post 51661763 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Thank you kind sirs for your sweet sMerits! The Goose was especially generous. I was able to reward a couple of haikus and a grapevine reporter. Now that I'm out of boring plain sMerits again, it's back to WOsMerits, much shinier and funnier!

Quote from: Xian01 on June 30, 2019, 04:59:26 PM
Have been having a blast on Twitter trolling the ever loving crap out of BCH and BSV supporters.
Taking your word for it.
+1 WOsMerit for relentless shitcoin trolling.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 30, 2019, 04:33:53 PM
Here’s a beautiful gif for absolutely no reason other than me being a pervert.


+1 WOsMerit for... uh, reasons.
Ah, wait, right! It's for the subtle, covert but relevant statement about shaky bottoms, of course.



2098. Post 51661876 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 30, 2019, 05:29:29 PM
Fucking 7 day Twitter timeout for calling some talentless blue-checkmark whore a “talentless whore”. Nice to see $10,000 again. When $20,000 ? Guess I’ll hang out here for a bit. Have been having a blast on Twitter trolling the ever loving crap out of BCH and BSV supporters.

#hodl

Yeah... we love it when the emotional trolls come over here with their already demonstrated lack of self-control.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I suppose at least you had been on the right side of the bcash bashing...


Welcome.   Kiss Kiss Kiss
You didn't tell him to GTFO and you even kissed him. Is this love?  Tongue



2099. Post 51662149 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

^^ Furry wrapping, dead cat. Makes me wonder if that beautiful round thing belongs to a terrifying windbreaker?
The beast can probably be revived by proper maneuvers anyway.



2100. Post 51663384 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: serveria.com on June 30, 2019, 07:28:13 PM
Here’s a beautiful gif for absolutely no reason other than me being a pervert.


I see it's pumping 🤪

Here’s a question -

Would you do the girl on the left who is quite pretty or take a risk on the girl on the right who has a smoking hot body but might look like r0ach’s Mom?

Edit - Also I see the gif coincided with us finding the actual bottom of the dump & now a rebound. I may use it again Wink

Option 2. That's what paper bags were invented for!  Grin
In some, uh, arrangements, well, availability of a paper bag isn't really an issue is it.

I could easily go with Option 1 as well. I'm sure the two girls are best friends and enjoy taking turns - as in "you stand I spank, next I stand you spank".



2101. Post 51663487 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: LoyceV on June 30, 2019, 07:28:12 PM
I wouldn't know how to count haikus.
Hm, that's a pity. I'm a sucker for good ones. Maybe we could mark them with a hashtag or something? It's a bit inelegant, as some of the magic goes down the drain. But for the sake of data science...?



2102. Post 51663732 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 30, 2019, 07:59:30 PM
fuck
Everything all right, V8?  Undecided



2103. Post 51663871 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 30, 2019, 08:25:20 PM
fine thx
loyce claims i have fucked as much as i have hedl, mooned or weeed put together
so am just keeping my averages up
Speaking of which, I'm sure Loyce's scripts are smart enough to weed out quotes when counting keywords?



2104. Post 51665200 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 30, 2019, 11:00:16 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160304.msg51665106#msg51665106
^
For those with interest Smiley
Join Q3 please and add some thought or .....
Mic strikes again!



2105. Post 51665244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Indeed, why do you do that?  Cheesy



2106. Post 51665270 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 30, 2019, 11:18:12 PM
Indeed, why do you do that?  Cheesy

Cause of reasons Roll Eyes
Mhhh it smells like a Poker ritual to me Wink



2107. Post 51665495 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

what the fuck, I wonder
we used to be so wealthy
corn is slipping down


#haiku (@LoyceV  Tongue)



2108. Post 51668739 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JSRAW on July 01, 2019, 05:40:00 AM
Bitcoin, Facebook and the End of 20th Century Money

Quote
-snip-

Whether or not Libra succeeds, it confirms the inescapable reality that international money movements in the digital era will be based on blockchain-like solutions that disintermediate the existing gatekeepers and challenge the bank-and-sovereign money-dominated model of the 20th century. It also underscores how we are moving into an age of digital assets.
Transition to digital assets all right, but Libra for the plebs seems to have little relation to a blockchain as we  know it. Maybe the "investor token" will be more like it, but it doesn't mean much to me since I don't run one of their permissioned nodes. It could still be good for bitcoin, but the world is too complex to place early bets IMO.

I like Arthur Hayes's take: Libra is an ETF in disguise, except you don't get dividends if it appreciates - you just get a discount on goods and services bought with it.

As it is now, it just looks like a way to replace some old gatekeepers with new ones.



2109. Post 51668815 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Xian01 on July 01, 2019, 06:24:47 AM
there's no actual continuity making the whole system just a confidence game (garbage).

 Opinion noted. Go back far enough, and you'll know what the original chain was, before all the BSV and BCH politicking fractured everything. I dislike using the term Bitcoin Core, as that's what BSV and BCH supporters use as slurs, but it's the original Bitcoin as far as Wall Street and most of the populace are concerned.

 I don't see any Layer 2 maturity with either BSV or BCH.

QFT

We only need to use the specifier 'Core' when discussing with people who intentionally call shitcoins 'bitcoin' to muddy the waters.

I also agree with the 'no Layer 2 maturity' bit. But surely there's no need for Layer 2 if the highway is wide enough? The grapes are too sour to eat.

+1 WOsMerit



2110. Post 51669163 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: realr0ach on July 01, 2019, 06:20:22 AM
NGOs are shipping negroids from the Congo to the southern border of the US

Fuck NGOs. Used to be slavers in the good ol'times. The world makes no sense anymore.



2111. Post 51670310 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

No moon without bumps. Easy, gentlemen, hold fast.



2112. Post 51674951 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):



Funny how one of these guys looks like Mr. Bitmex.

Image from https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/cartoon-cryptos-different-faces



2113. Post 51675688 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

No margin positions on ErisX. And Bitmex is theoretically off limits for US citizens. So there isn't too much overlap.



2114. Post 51681363 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

These quick peaks and valleys are scalper's paradise.



2115. Post 51687822 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

One busy day made me fall 7 or so pages behind. WTF, WOT!  Angry

Observing 10730.



2116. Post 51687988 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

The other night I was out with a lady friend having a drink and a few snacks. Being the gentleman I am, I went to settle the bill. Small bars like this one, right in the middle of nowhere, often don't take credit cards with some excuse about the terminal being broken, so I asked.

(Me) Credit card OK?

(Bartender, mid 30s by his looks) Anything is OK, even bitcoin.

(Me) (Thinking he just said that to impress the stranger with the pretty friend) Are you serious?

(Bartender) Well we aren't set up for that yet, but it's happening soon, it's the future blah blah

Another customer overheard us and chimed in. I think he was a regular, like almost anyone in that place. Also mid 30s.

(Customer) I have a few bitcoins myself, have you heard about that guy blah blah (old story about someone who misplaced his old HD with thousands of coins)

First time I hear about bitcoin when paying in real life.

I was thoroughly impressed indeed.



2117. Post 51688184 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Wow Homer.  Kiss (no homo)



2118. Post 51698164 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

All hail the Mayor!



2119. Post 51700364 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Globb0 on July 03, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
London financial pages tonight




Quote from: Globb0 on July 03, 2019, 08:22:55 PM
You brainwashed your mum!

Fuck. She will be rich but she can never enjoy it now she is a ladder drone.   Cheesy

Two pearls a couple pages apart at most.
+3 WOsMerit

I spent my boring one already, or else.



2120. Post 51700453 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

(edited for oneness, other post deleted)

Quote from: jojo69 on July 03, 2019, 08:59:28 PM
"ill suited to ordinary consumers"

translation; profits like these are only for the elites

Don't you have fields to plow peasant?  Tax time is coming up.

While I would agree at heart, consider say aunt bertha scammed into unbearable risk by her broker, who actually didn't bother to explain and maybe used that as a hedge.

I'm no ordinary consumer, though. I knew about shit when the 'elites' hadn't even heard of what we may call the underlying. If admission to the club is a fair process, with my mind I would agree for the sake of auntie.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 03, 2019, 08:54:41 PM
In all fairness, try being the poor sucker journalist that has to write sensibly about Arsenal’s latest match, the Spratly islands, methamphetamine addiction in Bromley, the new All-New Ford Kuga, whisky tasting and Bitcoin.   And then be judged by experts in each area.

Shit is hard yo.  

Actually, the piece itself was good enough to make me ask a specific question expecting a detailed reply - namely, what is meant by "general public". We aren't all Bertha.

Besides, titles are usually not the writer's fault.



2121. Post 51707195 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: rdbase on July 04, 2019, 02:56:15 PM
So these are not just futures but it will allow them to settle in physical bitcoin?
This would mean it is no longer just a bet on the price of bitcoin but it is actually a buy and sell of it.
https://www.coindesk.com/td-ameritrade-backed-erisx-gets-green-light-to-settle-futures-in-bitcoin

Some have a difficult time trying to grasp the concept of what they are trying to do.
Until now a physical settlement has not been allowed because the cftc was not convinced any wall street firm could hold on to bitcoin safely within these so called custodial services.  Hence this is another move forward on the development of the bitcoin infrastructure and ecosystem.
Indeed if settling in bitcoin, it is necessary that both parts hold as much physical bitcoin as necessary. Otherwise, with sufficient volatility, insolvency will ensue. That's one of the reasons I think in-kind ETFs and derivatives are medium term bullish AF.



2122. Post 51707332 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
So these are not just futures but it will allow them to settle in physical bitcoin?
This would mean it is no longer just a bet on the price of bitcoin but it is actually a buy and sell of it.
https://www.coindesk.com/td-ameritrade-backed-erisx-gets-green-light-to-settle-futures-in-bitcoin

Some have a difficult time trying to grasp the concept of what they are trying to do.
Until now a physical settlement has not been allowed because the cftc was not convinced any wall street firm could hold on to bitcoin safely within these so called custodial services.  Hence this is another move forward on the development of the bitcoin infrastructure and ecosystem.
Indeed if settling in bitcoin, it is necessary that both parts hold as much physical bitcoin as necessary. Otherwise, with sufficient volatility, insolvency will ensue. That's one of the reasons I think in-kind ETFs and derivatives are medium term bullish AF.
Not necessary the case.
The future can be settled in bitcoin.
Daily margining can be done with cash.
In case of Bakkt futures are only 1 day forward, so marining or variation not a problem.
Not sure about Erisx, couldn't find product specifications.
Not so bearish on EFT or other BTC-related Derivatives then.

All right, then edit my previous response: maybe not "hold as much physical btc", but "be ready to buy, and actually buy if necessary, as much physical btc as necessary, at whatever price it takes (market buy)", which is nearly the same thing even if collateral is posted as fiat (which I doubt anyway).

Does this sound right?



2123. Post 51707567 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 03:21:49 PM
Indeed if settling in bitcoin, it is necessary that both parts hold as much physical bitcoin as necessary. Otherwise, with sufficient volatility, insolvency will ensue. That's one of the reasons I think in-kind ETFs and derivatives are medium term bullish AF.
Not necessary the case.
The future can be settled in bitcoin.
Daily margining can be done with cash.
In case of Bakkt futures are only 1 day forward, so marining or variation not a problem.
Not sure about Erisx, couldn't find product specifications.
Not so bearish on EFT or other BTC-related Derivatives then.

All right, then edit my previous response: maybe not "hold as much physical btc", but "be ready to buy, and actually buy if necessary, as much physical btc as necessary, at whatever price it takes (market buy)", which is nearly the same thing even if collateral is posted as fiat (which I doubt anyway).

Does this sound right?
Yes, but it's like any other future.
No difference.
Like any other future settled in kind, which is uncommon for most futures. This would lead to actual btc changing hands. I thinks it matters and does make a definite difference.

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So the difference might be or in the liquidity of the underlying or in an unfair bias of the regulators (see above message about CXBTF)

Ah! You speak from a regulatory standpoint? I was looking more at the possible effects on the btc market.



2124. Post 51708505 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 04, 2019, 04:53:46 PM
Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.

I do have a few, yes. Last is 32 out of 100, just for the sake of comparison.
I wouldn't even have noticed without your heads up.



2125. Post 51710196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 04, 2019, 07:28:39 PM
@d_eddie

Date yourself up dude

We looking for 15K now Cheesy
Yeah right Mic, I should have updated my hat some time ago already. But where are the 15k hats? I must have missed the post...

(And while we're on xhomerx10's art, I was awed by the Death Angel job!)



2126. Post 51710920 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JSRAW on July 04, 2019, 08:05:51 PM
^ try page number 24366

Thanks JSRAW. You're the WOT archivist to me, more or less  Grin

I thought there had been a post I missed with a few 15k hats to choose from, but it's not like that. So I had to borrow one of the two available hats, and I picked micg's. I hope The Goose won't mind.



2127. Post 51711051 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 09:27:05 PM
^ try page number 24366

Thanks JSRAW. You're the WOT archivist to me, more or less  Grin

I thought there had been a post I missed with a few 15k hats to choose from, but it's not like that. So I had to borrow one of the two available hats, and I picked micg's. I hope The Goose won't mind.
I politely asked for a personalised version of the hat, and I got what I wanted.
I suggest you to try the same, you might be surprised by XHomerX10 generosity.


Thanks fillippone, I already know how liberal xhomerx10 is with his skills, since I've seen him conjure hats in a split second for several WO members, including myself. This time, however, i don't feel like wasting his time and energy, since we're bound to 30k soonish anyway Cool



2128. Post 51711074 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 09:33:12 PM
Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.
TL; DR:Nothing to worry about

Executive summary:
This message pops out because of a depleted BIP9 options.
The real problem is that if you get this error message you are not running latest bitcoin core version.
From version 0.18 this error message (basically a warning message coming out every block cannot be considered a warning anymore, so basically better to shut it off.
So: please LFC: upgrade to latest version as there are many other improvements.

FULL Story:

-snip- technical material (several relevant links)

I don't think it's an old version of the client.

Code:
% bitcoin-cli getnetworkinfo
{
  "version": 180000,
  "subversion": "/Satoshi:0.18.0/",
  "protocolversion": 70015,
...



2129. Post 51711301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Mysterious warnings
Block version unexpected
Satoshi 18

#haiku



2130. Post 51712032 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 04, 2019, 10:29:43 PM
Mysterious warnings
Block version unexpected
Satoshi 18

#haiku

So interesting
Saying "one eight" or "eighteen"
it's still a haiku

So interesting
Saying "one eight" or "eighteen"
it's still a haiku

Elwar's back with us!
Missing a few syllables
for a true #haiku



2131. Post 51712036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on July 04, 2019, 11:22:32 PM
Trolled by a 13 year old girl?  Nice

Or is it you being trolled?

Arrietroller??  Tongue



2132. Post 51712300 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):




2133. Post 51718610 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: ivomm on July 05, 2019, 02:34:20 PM
This year is perhaps the best example why hodling is way more profitable than trading. We had 4.5x raise of the price with 2 very short lived dips 20%+. If you are telling me that you predicted both dips and didn't sleep to catch the bottoms, then you are the best trader in the world. But the truth is that 99.99% of the traders didn't sold just at the moments before the price dropped. In all cases hodlers had the biggest profit. However, I must warn you that I sense some complacency and over confidence, that may play a bad game in your future trades. Based on the probability theory and the testimony of many traders, 10 successfull trades may and will be completely annihilated by the 11th, even if your are genious. And then you will be vulnerable to the negative emotions and make other bad choices which may bring a substantial loss. Your philosophy is proven to be wrong by the founders of the HODL movement. Bitcoin is not a shitcoin to be traded for 10% profit and then dumped. If you think so, better go to Poloniex or Binance and trade shitcoins.
I respectfully disagree. I am significantly better off for trading with a part of my stash - what I call the play money. At heart I'm a hodler, but I can't always (ever?) buy as much as I'd like, so a bit of trading on the side helps a lot. As to the 11th losing trade annihilating the previous 10 winning ones, I think it boils down to being careful and sticking to a reasonable quantitative plan. You win, you take it off the table. You lose, you lose and eat it and go on.

Of course, looking for exact tops and bottoms is a recipe for disaster. My point is, you don't need to catch the extremes to be profitable.

Disclosure: I've got a green long position which I'm getting a bit impatient to close, and a smaller short position, in the red, which I'm hoping to make a bit larger averaging up, ladder style. When the two positions are equal, my net position stays put, more or less, since one makes up for the other. Then it's a game of consuming the winning side and then the other one, aiming to reach the null point (0 long, 0 short).



2134. Post 51718653 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 05, 2019, 02:48:37 PM
Genders?

Of course there are more than 2 genders. Gender is a grammatical term... masculine, feminine, neuter, common, etc.

I think so too, and I'm quite outspoken about it; but the world keeps on disagreeing, especially the USA. I remember arguing with a guy about his use of 'gender' instead of 'sex' in a web form. It was like 15 years ago, and it's been downhill since then.



2135. Post 51718730 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: d_eddie on July 05, 2019, 02:56:14 PM
ladder style

I won't be able to mention ladders (in the JJG/Jbreher sense) without secretly or openly laughing at the memory of Globb0's words - brainwashed ladder drone. Which reminds me, I really owe an sMerit there, and now I have one, so I'll comply.



2136. Post 51718904 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: ivomm on July 05, 2019, 03:09:51 PM
This year is perhaps the best example why hodling is way more profitable than trading. We had 4.5x raise of the price with 2 very short lived dips 20%+. If you are telling me that you predicted both dips and didn't sleep to catch the bottoms, then you are the best trader in the world. But the truth is that 99.99% of the traders didn't sold just at the moments before the price dropped. In all cases hodlers had the biggest profit. However, I must warn you that I sense some complacency and over confidence, that may play a bad game in your future trades. Based on the probability theory and the testimony of many traders, 10 successfull trades may and will be completely annihilated by the 11th, even if your are genious. And then you will be vulnerable to the negative emotions and make other bad choices which may bring a substantial loss. Your philosophy is proven to be wrong by the founders of the HODL movement. Bitcoin is not a shitcoin to be traded for 10% profit and then dumped. If you think so, better go to Poloniex or Binance and trade shitcoins.
I respectfully disagree. I am significantly better off for trading with a part of my stash - what I call the play money. At heart I'm a hodler, but I can't always (ever?) buy as much as I'd like, so a bit of trading on the side helps a lot. As to the 11th losing trade annihilating the previous 10 winning ones, I think it boils down to being careful and sticking to a reasonable quantitative plan. You win, you take it off the table. You lose, you lose and eat it and go on.

Of course, looking for exact tops and bottoms is a recipe for disaster. My point is, you don't need to catch the extremes to be profitable.

Disclosure: I've got a green long position which I'm getting a bit impatient to close, and a smaller short position, in the red, which I'm hoping to make a bit larger averaging up, ladder style. When the two positions are equal, my net position stays put, more or less, since one makes up for the other. Then it's a game of consuming the winning side and then the other one, aiming to reach the null point (0 long, 0 short).

Many shorters burned this year, and you know it. For 6 months they kept losing money. Finally, there were some profit at the last drop, but who cares. If you are "hodler" and try to make some profit with 10% of your stash, this is just a child game. Ok, lets think about my points. Let's say that at 4500 you had 10% profit. You took it, right? Then patiently you waited for a dip to 3K-ish but it didn't happen and never will be. Then at 13K you enter again and made another 10% profit. You took it, alright? At the same time the hodlers made 4.5x profit without doing anything! Ok, now, let's see the other situation. You want to increase your bitcoin stash and sold multiple times in 2018 with some 10-20% or more increase of the stash. Let's say you doubled your bitcoins in 2018 with 10 trades. And in 2019 you sold at 5K. At the same time the price wen't 4.5K from the bottom, so again you have 2.5x less coins now, if you were just hodling. So what is that you 'respecfully disagree"?
I see your point, ivomm, but do you see mine? By trading, even at "child game" level, I can increase my stash - which I couldn't if I had to buy with fiat that simply isn't always available.

By the way, I'm not an eager shorter. The rule "don't short the corn" is deeply ingrained, more so in a bull market, but in general she's shown us time and again how brutal her reversals can be. The matter is I often need to short so I can hedge and make some progress even while the long is suffering.

Your example isn't convincing to me. I am not patiently waiting for a dip to 3k-ish. I wrote that off before 6k. It's all SOMA, so I might be wrong, as almost always happens with SOMA analysis, but still. Similarly, I don't need to wait for 13k to enter. In fact, I'm in play mode already. But I can wait for my short to get in the green, which I am confident will happen soon, or at least less red, which would allow me to eat a small loss for piece of mind - after cashing out the long, I would be in profit anyway.

Of course, what I'm saying is personal opinion/experience and doesn't necessarily apply to other people.

Quote
But if you think you are smarter than the holders, go ahead, nobody is stopping you. I am just warning the n00bs that think too high of themselves because of 2-3 successfull trades. Bitcoin is not for wanna-be-quick-millionaires n00bs. Bitcoins is for those who value it more than the fiat, tether and the other shitcoins.
No quick millionaire wannabe here, and I don't think I'm smarter. I just happened to find a system that works for me. It grows my stash slowly but with low risk. Risk more, earn more. It's a matter of personal choice. Noobs will be noobs, and they generally need a few lessons before finding what works for them. I've already had a fair share of "classes", so it's only fair I capitalize on them a bit now.



2137. Post 51719006 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: aesma on July 05, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
If you're 99% certain that the price will go significantly down from now, in the next few months, why not sell some of your stash, and keep that fiat to buy more later ? The risk is minimal when the price is high like right now.

Who wants to be roached? Not me. I do place little opposing bets trying to balance them out until the sum pays off, but touching my main stash? No way.

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I know many here talk about buying BTC regularly, but personally I don't earn enough fiat to invest significantly in BTC. I must already invest more than 20% of my salary in my "401K" (because my employer doubles it, and it's a sound investment), so after that, not much is left.
There. We all have different conditions and motives. Fiat, like corn, is hard to come by. At least, there are no fiat trees round here unfortunately  Grin



2138. Post 51719282 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: kenzawak on July 05, 2019, 03:55:43 PM
Nutty seems to be the right word here.


There. You ruined my sMerit piggybank again. Aren't you ashamed?

(The quoted pic from TheBawb would have been totally worthy - at least as one of mic's peecs - but legendaries are best left alone by people dealing with sMerits on a hand-to-mouth basis.)



2139. Post 51721357 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 05, 2019, 06:16:55 PM
You feeling a little safer Elwar?

Getting better. Nadia and I got married and we're moving on with our lives.

Ouch! There goes the free man we knew.

Joking  Tongue --- congrats to the newlywed!!



2140. Post 51729604 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: jbreher on July 06, 2019, 03:11:45 PM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.
Having 4 or 5 obedient 18+ year old females around would be pretty damned better.
Filthy rich, so to say.  Cool



2141. Post 51729708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 06, 2019, 03:24:56 PM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.
Having 4 or 5 obedient 18+ year old females around would be pretty damned better.
Filthy rich, so to say.  Cool

I prefer my women a bit older.
25+ please.

18 year old girls (although legal) look like children to me.
I agree. But 18+ still covers that  Cool



2142. Post 51731589 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: nutildah on July 06, 2019, 04:31:19 PM
I’m 33, been with my girl for 11 years. We’re not married but I can’t see myself with anybody else. If for some awful reason something happened I’d probably go for a little older.

I like somebody who can look after me, obviously they’d have to be hot though. I like fake tits, botox, lip fillers & stuff like that.

LOL. Me too dude, me too. I just don't really care for the emotional baggage that often comes with that sort of thing. Usually there's a backstory... Well, lets face it, all women of a certain age have backstories, but only some can afford fake tits and botox.

But with regards to your first part, good on you dude. Stick with it. I've only been with my g.f. for a year and a few months but she's already pissed we're not married yet (its a Philippines thing). Taking my sweet time for the moment.

Maybe when 1 signature campaign payment = 1 engagement ring, things will change in her favor.

Finally on topic! All this bitcoin chatter is distracting.

With a few exceptions, I've always dated younger girls. I've had my modest share of milfs, but I'm under par in that department - at least if I compare myself to my friends. I too like youth (within decency, as nutildah rightly put it). I can be flexible about physical age, and I have been, but my issue with older women is emotional, not only physical.

Most mature women (and I mean around 35 and up, but sometimes even before!) really have no clue about relationships. Rather than living it up while the gas lasts, they keep throwing their emotional baggage, scars, and past experiences in the face of their new acquaintances, as if the new guys had to atone for the alleged jerks they met. Jerks they were happy to marry and have children with in most cases, by the way. I don't doubt those guys were "bad" each in his own way - I am no saint myself. But puh-leeze...

All these women seem to want to do is wilt and dry up alone. Or are they waiting for, say, George Clooney to take them to his castle in the clouds? The rich and famous have access to an army of fresh pussy these candidate cat ladies can't even start to imagine. George Clooney would probably have a taste of your DAUGHTER, ma'am. Provided she's hot enough, I mean.



2143. Post 51731832 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 06, 2019, 06:25:05 PM
ladder style

I won't be able to mention ladders (in the JJG/Jbreher sense) without secretly or openly laughing at the memory of Globb0's words - brainwashed ladder drone. Which reminds me, I really owe an sMerit there, and now I have one, so I'll comply.

I don't recall the significance of such a comment.  Maybe I missed it?

Here it is. Oops, I'm laughing again.

Quote from: Globb0 on July 03, 2019, 08:22:55 PM
By the way, I checked in with my mom in regards to some of her BTC details a few days ago, and I was surprised in a few regards.

She is actually one of the few peeps who actually did something that is in the neighborhood of what I suggested, and that was to at least put some money into BTC and to dollar cost average and to only sell small amounts on the way up in order to be prepared for further possible UP.

So, she largely has been following my suggestions, but her revelations to me a few days ago, showed me that peeps are going to do what they are going to do, and peeps got their own minds and they are going to experiment to some degree.  

-snip-


You brainwashed your mum!

Fuck. She will be rich but she can never enjoy it now she is a ladder drone.   Cheesy
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I never really sold any btc, except for the occasional, insignificant, small expense. I've always replaced the spent corn asap, and often at a lower price too  Cool Which means I'm basically still in DCA accumulation phase, albeit with irregular frequency, when there is excess fiat that begs promotion to 'real money' status (btc).

Your ladder concept, however, works very well for me in trading atm. I just extended the concept so I have 2 parallel ladders, one going up (long) and one going down (short). I do tweak a lot, especially to get out of trouble during stormy weather, so I often cut both ladders when I'm in the green and I feel the exposition is making me sweat too much.

Now is such a time. I would be happy to be left flat or with only the long open, but I would like a much lower entry point, so I'm still dancing on two ladders until the corn either makes my long side shine (I'll happily close both ladders, possibly after enlarging the short to match the long) or takes a small nosedive (I'll cash out the short and increase the long a bit, averaging down).



2144. Post 51731928 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: jojo69 on July 06, 2019, 05:24:54 PM
I like fake tits, botox, lip fillers & stuff like that.

ewwwww

Ewwww indeed!

Quote from: mindrust on July 06, 2019, 06:50:51 PM
Those transgender freaks are absolutely disgusting. (both)

If you want milfs check this one (43 yo), my favorite:


https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1183509/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
I did say I can be flexible about age, didn't I?  Smiley

Quote from: makrospex on July 06, 2019, 07:09:23 PM
But sex is preserving the beauty, they say.
I can second that, because after four kids with the same woman, sex becomes pretty rare, and that was when i started to look older faster (and the misses too)... Roll Eyes
It doesn't even take four children. One will often do. Even if it isn't mine.



2145. Post 51732287 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: wwzsocki on July 06, 2019, 07:42:37 PM
...I just extended the concept so I have 2 parallel ladders, one going up (long) and one going down (short)...

It's a very interesting strategy. Just to be sure you have two parallel ladders, but only one open at a time?
At most times, they're both open - including right now.

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...I often cut both ladders when I'm in the green and I feel the exposition is making me sweat too much...

Exactly, I would rather cash out and wait patiently for another best entry point, when BTC is crashing, especially when there are a lot of signs, before each deep.
I'm only talking about my play money, however. My main stash is in strict hodl mode.

Quote
I just don't see any sense to HODL (my full position), especially if I am watching the price very closely, each day from years and see the crash coming.
Beware though! Getting roached is just too easy.

Quote
In 2017 I would HODL and this year I sell 70% on the top and open a margin position.
70% is totally out of my league. Good for you to spot the top. My sophisticated SOMA analysis tools are still a bit rough around the edges and don't have that kind of performance yet. A whole SOMA team is working on it, though.



2146. Post 51732320 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 06, 2019, 07:43:42 PM

-snip-
Fuck. She will be rich but she can never enjoy it now she is a ladder drone.   Cheesy

Ok... I guess I did see that one, and it seems that I was not as struck by it's humor, as you.  Go figure.
On the interwebz, sense of humour has remarkable individual variation.

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So, I really don't consider her to be following my lead very much beyond the initial choice to get into bitcoin and then to hold through a few of the downward bad periods.... which may have even caused her to be way more profitable in terms of percentage that she profited from what she had put in.
... which is quite a decent result for an elderly lady if you ask me.



2147. Post 51732498 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: lightfoot on July 06, 2019, 08:24:49 PM

It doesn't even take four children. One will often do. Even if it isn't mine.

Get a mistress ASAP. Keeps you young. Can be expensive at times, but hey that's what bitcoin is for.
Indeed. See, darling, it's kind of an anti-age treatment. You get your beauty creams, and I get to cream this beauty.



2148. Post 51734524 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: WinslowIII on July 07, 2019, 01:22:40 AM
We'll all be dead soon enough, none of our lives have any significance. So keep moving while you can, before you end up dust.
Speak for yourself. My bucket list is too long to manage already.



2149. Post 51742566 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Haikus are lovely
why should we limit ourselves
to Sundays only?



2150. Post 51743434 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 07, 2019, 05:44:06 PM
my teacher told me haikus are usually about nature (I didn't really like my teacher)
(Japanese) haikus are traditionally related to nature and specifically to a season.
Usually, the last line contains what is called the "kigo", the "season words" - a falling leaf, a specific bird flying or something else that evokes the time of year.

But this is the WOT! Our haikus are about drinks, chicks, roaches, peecs, and whatever else tickles our fancy. Most references to nature revolve around, of all plants, corn. Go figure.



2151. Post 51746578 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 12:13:52 AM
Ergo French?

Relevance is not Roachenstein's impersonation's forte.



2152. Post 51749290 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Wow, $500 bart up.



2153. Post 51750166 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: jonoiv on July 08, 2019, 10:35:24 AM
The bitfinex / bitstamp scam is working quite well so far, all the other exchanges get dragged behind, there is a finite level to how far they can push it though before gravity kicks in.
So stamp is part of the scam too? This sounds like news to me. When did you realize that?



2154. Post 51756820 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on July 08, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
On more serious matters, I'm starting to get really pissed off, with seed regulations, phytosanitary certificates, import permits, and motherfucking Greek customs.
All I wanted was Princess 77 Bermuda grass seeds ffs & it seems I'm losing this battle.

The dickheads now want an import permit to send the certificate (seeds already stuck in customs), which the customs will grant only when they actually have the certificate.
@%$^#&%&@%^ Sad

so you want to infect your island with non native grass DNA and you are bent that the authorities are giving it a good eyeball

hooooooookay

Huh?

I'm sorry but my island is already "infected" with Bermuda grass (your average lawn) - just not the sub-hybrid Princess 77 of the same family (less watering, less cutting).
All the Greek customs care about (fair enough) is that it doesn't contain any pests, that's why I chose a brand name & also why I need the phyto-certificate.
Which by the way I also paid - as instructed, 80 fucking $ - to have the sales supervisor (dickhead) cancel the whole thing because he had a last minute epiphany that I needed an import permit for that - which in reality is exactly vice versa - in order to get the import permit from the customs.

Dickheads are everywhere jojo, even in the US.
In other words, harmless lawn grass found planet-wide. Dickheads indeed. I tried to import live plants by mail order - a non-invasive species, by the way - and the customs gave me flaming hell. They held the stuff so long that when they eventually cleared it and I got the package, the stuff was dead and mushy.

Being just seeds, wouldn't it have been practical to just smuggle a few?



2155. Post 51756900 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: jbreher on July 08, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
ladder style

I won't be able to mention ladders (in the JJG/Jbreher sense) without secretly or openly laughing at the memory of Globb0's words - brainwashed ladder drone.

I'll just state for the record that having a trading scheme which consistently nets small profits, day in and day out on autopilot, has been very good to me.

I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. In fact, I've long embraced the ladder approach too, albeit with a personal twist. Because of that, I see myself as a bit of a drone too. I guess that's why Globb0's joke made me laugh so hard.  Grin



Incidentally, here's my occasional disclosure. I'm now flat after cashing out my long a little too early and getting scared shitless by the king kong green dildo we've seen today while my small short was still open. I was hoping to close it a little lower, but I wouldn't risk it. Profit practically 0 for this round. Hold'em, fold'em, y'know.



2156. Post 51756945 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: yefi on July 08, 2019, 05:12:07 PM
And on that note, with the benefit of hindsight, last week is starting to look like a huge bear defeat



Institutional shorters may soon be invited to a taste of Bitcoin's irrepressible power. Serves them right, those club-waving troglodytes.

I just had a taste of her sheer power while I was (ahem) technically short - but sir, it's only because I'd only managed to close the long leg of my trade yet! I was going to... I was going to. Whatever. Nearly 3% play money profit burned. Total profit ~ 0% (0.002 BTC actually.) Serves me right for shorting the corn.



2157. Post 51757451 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: jojo69 on July 09, 2019, 12:09:00 AM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.

Just got to raise them right, spare the rod and all that...says the non-parent  Wink

Four or five 17-year olds is some interesting big love sorta parenting.

planning a poly sex cult, it's gonna be awesome
Count me in.



2158. Post 51757847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Here she goes again?
Observing 12480



2159. Post 51757998 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: JSRAW on July 09, 2019, 02:05:57 AM

13. nutildah wrote something, plz CHECK
JSRAW, you're good.
Have my last.

Nutildah, you're good.
+1 WOsMerit.



2160. Post 51761592 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on July 09, 2019, 04:47:00 AM
Is Bitcoin dead again?

It's all over. He's kaput.

On a serious note, at what price point can hats be replaced for crowns? 50K? Tongue

 Trying to get a jump on 50k here.  Not sure how I'm going to get impressions from everyone for these crowns though.
 Consider this a temporary crown.



Avatar-sized




Hmm, this looks a bit like a tooth to me. Respectful suggestion: maybe a more stylized crown could be more effective.

On the other hand, I'm a bit afraid we could jinx it by overreaching too early. But who am I to say so?



2161. Post 51761705 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 09, 2019, 07:47:12 AM



hodl hodl

bitcoin grow and grow Smiley

now BTC = 12,670 $ ($ is a scamcoin)

My Dad said to me the other day - ‘Maybe you should start to think about selling some now after it has recovered so much’.

What I wanted to do at that point -



That's some powerful code cod!



2162. Post 51761818 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Enjoy, V8, and regards to the favorite wife. Don't neglect the others too much though.

EDIT: Bawb, it's just a teenage bull growing adult teeth. All will be good.



2163. Post 51762734 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on July 09, 2019, 12:35:15 PM
~snip

That’s the joke.jpeg

But I think it may be a wee bit scary as a crown

 Thanks HairyMaclairy.  You're right it probably wouldn't stand on its own but I think this rug really ties it together.



Thanks go to momed for the rug!

I get the Crown of Dumbness for not getting that in the first place. Ouch.



2164. Post 51763884 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

She's feigning sleep. Small volume, flat tops/bottoms on the smaller timescales. Careful. Never trust a crouching tiger.



2165. Post 51769397 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: bkbirge on July 09, 2019, 08:05:00 PM
I envy those that can actually trade the short term waves with enough consistent certainty to make a better long term profit than just holding. I'm not sure I've ever actually met one of those mythical traders, they might be unicorns. Grin

If aiming realistically and conservatively, it doesn't take a unicorn to do that. I guess more than a few such people are reading and writing these very pages. It doesn't even take a WO peep (well, just as a brainwasher maybe). Case in point: JJG's mom could do that almost in her sleep, but decided not to be bothered cause she prefers to enjoy life.



2166. Post 51769605 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

There are many different possible systems. You just find one that works for you most of the time, make all rounds similar in size, and you'll find yourself net green in the long term. Finding a system takes times and funds (the "lessons" or "classes").

The Hairy way is an excellent starting point, and not that hairy to implement after all (except for the judgment call).

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 10, 2019, 02:51:34 AM
If aiming realistically and conservatively, it doesn't take a unicorn to do that.

If you can learn the difference between a bear market and a bull market (hint: we are in a bull market) then you can trade for a profit.  Dollar cost average in in a bull market. Dollar cost average out in a bear market.

If you can’t tell the difference, then sit on your hands.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 10, 2019, 03:09:26 AM
It doesn't even take a WO peep (well, just as a brainwasher maybe).

Gotta admit to the humor, which caused me to wonder, what I had said, exactly. 
-snip-

I think that my suggestion that she should liquidate some BTC had helped her to shave off about 3-4% of her stash around $11k since she had not sold any BTC during the whole of 2018 until just in the past few weeks or so when BTC reached $11k the first time this year.

OK, OK, brainwasher or ongoing counsel. A little judgment comes handy with any system.

My disclosure.

I have opened a new long - smaller, and higher entry point - after going practically even with my previous, ~2 week trade. Although small, it's making a tidy profit already. I've set two stops so that I pocket half of it if things go south by south-east, and the rest will be closed at break-even if things go true south.

If instead she goes up before going down, I can cash out, call it a day, put away the excess and start over. Alternatively, I can keep the game going by opening a balancing short. If I do, I'll "freeze" a decent level of profit while trying to tweak both legs to scrape/scalp a bit more while exiting. When I'm fed up, scared, tired or whatever, I'll close both legs and a fair part of the frozen profit will get back home if the legs will have been kept fairly balanced.

A pre-set plan with tentative future steps for up/down. Judgment deferred but eventually useful as always.



2167. Post 51769632 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 10, 2019, 03:29:42 AM
3g of blow with my younger bro!
13k Mother Fucker - So fucked up right now  Cool

Don't blow your heart out, brother. Please be careful.

*hugs*

No homo.

I’m OK.

Drinking Prosecco on my own to try & KO to get to sleep.

Blow is occasionally fatal, I'm told. Prosecco almost never is, but it's sure to give me a bad stomach and a bad mouth, and without moderation, likely a full blown hangover.

Please be doubly careful  Tongue



2168. Post 51769694 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on July 10, 2019, 03:35:28 AM
Speaking of Moses...

I liked the Asimov quote even better than the joke.

I don't think I can spend WOsMerit outside of this thread. The authority on WOsMerit is Toxic, maybe I should ask him when he's around. In the meantime, I won't reply in that thread out there. It's cozy in here.

+1 WOsMerit



2169. Post 51776318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Traxo on July 10, 2019, 03:16:27 PM
Relaying words.

What's the point of being Shelby's megaphone?



2170. Post 51778450 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 10, 2019, 07:17:29 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Damn r0ach the woman ain’t coocking today  Undecided  Undecided

Scallops uh? And white wine. Looks yummy. But cryptoqueeen?? A salad with fizzy red wine? Oh noes. I'll go out on a limb and guess it's sweet, even  Roll Eyes



2171. Post 51778481 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Masterluc on Telegram yesterday.

Quote from: Masterluc_on_Telegram
Among girls: on the whole, I'm tired of it all. My forecasts are not what they used to be, I do them without the former grasp and vision. Vanga has fattened and settled down...

But to be honest, according to the latest situation on the market, I can say that the short-term bearish picture again suddenly deteriorates. Just wanted to say it.

I like his honesty about losing his magic.



2172. Post 51778541 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Biodom on July 10, 2019, 07:38:12 PM
Theory: we got "smashed" today because of all the noise coming out with regards to the wretched two headed monster from FB.
The organic growth of bitcoin is/was so much better than a sudden harsh light caused by that (L-C) development.
I always thought that there would be no positives and only negatives from it (contrary to many other opinions including those from Novo and Andreas).

https://imgflip.com/i/35cogb

Damn r0ach the woman ain’t coocking today  Undecided  Undecided

Scallops uh? And white wine. Looks yummy. But cryptoqueeen?? A salad with fizzy red wine? Oh noes. I'll go out on a limb and guess it's sweet, even  Roll Eyes

Scallops are not vegetarian anyway. If so, why not get a kebab instead?


You got a problem with scallops? Apart from the price, I mean.



2173. Post 51778556 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Biodom on July 10, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
Masterluc on Telegram yesterday.

Quote from: Masterluc_on_Telegram
Among girls: on the whole, I'm tired of it all. My forecasts are not what they used to be, I do them without the former grasp and vision. Vanga has fattened and settled down...

But to be honest, according to the latest situation on the market, I can say that the short-term bearish picture again suddenly deteriorates. Just wanted to say it.

I like his honesty about losing his magic.

not sure why he (supposedly) is referring to himself as a female?
maybe masterluc is a 'babushka'?

Masterluc isn't, but Vanga is. A mythological Bulgarian (I think) witch of the woods specializing in divination.



2174. Post 51780847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: fillippone on July 10, 2019, 07:46:03 PM
The Bad: all that salad on Cryptoqueen lobster
Oops... hadn't spotted the lobster! I was imagining the "I'll just eat salad" kind of situation.
Sorry, cryptoqueeen. Lobster and Lambrusco though...  Roll Eyes ok ok.

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 10, 2019, 07:55:40 PM
Yeah its still Wednesday Roll Eyes so rosé and a Lambrusco
Oops, rosé. I'd taken it for white, ehm.

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 10, 2019, 09:57:31 PM
can't continue food spam the place Roll Eyes

Don't stop the pics from coming, please. It's fun to ogle them in lurk mode and spout the occasional guess/comment, be it off by a span or spot on. I even loled at the peecs!  Grin



2175. Post 51780879 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 10, 2019, 08:42:13 PM
Back to the 11k’s

I’m still nursing a bad hangover, horrible headache. Today is shit.

5 bottles of Prosecco. You are human apparently  Tongue

EDIT: Oops, actually only 3. Well enough to cause me lots of harm IME. Confirmed: you're totally human.



2176. Post 51785444 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

I disagree about Firefox being number two.



2177. Post 51787107 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 11, 2019, 01:55:41 PM
Drinking Lambrusco is pretty much on par with drinking urine, isn't it? Take pee, dilute it, add sugar and carbonate it. Yuck.
You're forgetting the beautiful grenadine color. Pick someone with blood in their pee, or add suitable coloration along with sugar. Yum.



2178. Post 51787139 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: nutildah on July 11, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
Drinking Lambrusco is pretty much on par with drinking urine, isn't it? Take pee, dilute it, add sugar and carbonate it. Yuck.

What's next? Sparkling rose?

It's an offense to even call it wine.

I didn’t check personally, but I would prefer Lambrusco, for sure.

Having lived in California for much of my life, I miss a good red wine. I moved right when I was becoming a mature enough adult to really value the complex notes and subtleties of a slightly aged cab. In Asia, almost everything wine-related is a generic "red" or "Shiraz" from Australia, which is kind of a shit grape.

As far as "wine" goes, real men drink soju, or sake if you're Japanese.

I don't know much about soju - only had it a couple times, and it must have been low quality: slightly sour and without any subtlety.

Nihon-shu, on the other hand... a good kara-kuchi goes along well with most food, from meat to vegetables and of course fish/poultry.



2179. Post 51787369 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 11, 2019, 03:08:31 PM
Btw Thursday Cheesy that means something I guess  Tongue

Shh... don't poke the sleeping dragon, dude.  Cool



2180. Post 51789511 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

C'mon, Jono, be a good dog.



2181. Post 51795780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Hueristic on July 12, 2019, 03:54:10 AM
Quote
For example, the Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get ''hur,'' and the word was taken by early commentators to mean ''virgins,'' hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant ''white'' and was commonly used to mean ''white grapes.''

Aramaic? I imagine the language is indeed related to Aramaic, but for all I know the Koran is written in Quranic Arabic. And some kind of fruit might be an image for female virginity, as it happens in other languages  - think cherry or peach.

Or maybe it's just a derpish sound, as in "Hur hur, fresh pussy, much many, hur hur!".



2182. Post 51796131 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Hueristic on July 11, 2019, 07:30:07 PM
Hey guys I just signed up for Paxos for a fiat portal so I'll let you guys know how it works.

Quote
We're reviewing your application.
If your application was automatically accepted, you will receive an email shortly welcoming you to Paxos.

If you did not pass, you will receive an email in 1 to 3 days with next steps.

I called them and they didn't ask all the intrusive shit that coinbase and kraken are asking for. And apparently a wire transfer is free and takes 1/2 hour and ach is free and takes 2 days...Yeah right we will see about that. I recorded the conversation just in case I have issues. Smiley

Reminder to self. I'm always on the lookout for fiat gateways. If I get around to it, I'll check as well, but do keep us posted, man. Thanks for the heads up! WO offers the occasional pearl, and your post belongs in that category.



2183. Post 51796282 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

You're trying to distract us from dominoes aren't you.
Nice try, but careful. Remember Kathleen's bike.



2184. Post 51796446 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: TheCryptonianGroup on July 12, 2019, 11:13:01 AM
You're trying to distract us from dominoes aren't you.
Nice try, but careful. Remember Kathleen's bike.

Aye quite possible. I do not get the reference about the Kathleen's bike..   Undecided

It's because you don't pay attention.

Quote from: gentlemand on July 11, 2019, 08:06:15 PM
Elaborate your view of "refined, well educated gentlemen of obscene wealth". Nobody is being taken as a fool by us do not mistake that. We are aware that some individuals here are intelligent and that is what we hoped for.. Finance us and be surprised on what a Rogue wave we create

It's a quietly-kept fact that all of the most notable posters on this thread live together on an encampment outside Cork.

And I think it's time we outed ourselves just a tad.

This is what we sent the last interloper on this thread who questioned our erudition and refinement - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-Adcb8yRQ

Were they heard from again? I rather think not. I'm the one with the parka over my eyes.

Quote from: gentlemand on July 11, 2019, 08:31:42 PM
So, did you ever fight Kathleens bike?

Yeah. Let's just say it won't be rolling smoothly downhill ever again.

EDIT Aha, it seems you did your homework in the end. Well done and let's not get distracted again.



2185. Post 51797577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: TheCryptonianGroup on July 12, 2019, 12:06:24 PM
Wow you are one of those disbelievers to the core aren't you?
I am smart in certain areas where i fall out as a dumb cave man in others..
Am glad you are getting a chuckle out of this

The price for bringing countless new people to the Crypto Community is still 100 BTC so do not get butt hurt because i can do it and you can not Tongue Have a little faith will ya, because it is my dream to do it just not for free
50% now and 50% after we are done

Specualtion after we are done : Price over $40k

I believe in BTC.
I don't believe in you in the slightest.
You are so dumb in all areas. Proof? You are still here ffs.

You do ? Wow i am impressed !
That might change when we get to work ! You just hold your precious BTC and wait for our Rogue Wave.
You have the right to your unique opinion, should i care about it? No  Grin
We need some proof. The domino YouTube thingy would have been the easiest way, but I respect your dominophobic, domino-hater position.

So we could ask you to make a little demo pump, just to show off, and bring her to, say, 21k-22k - just above the previous ATH. If you succeed, that would be sufficient proof and we could muster the 75 BTC you're asking.

However, I understand that this would mean a free ride for many of us. In other words, if your demo pump succeeds, some of us would reap the benefits without paying a penny of the honest 65 BTC required for your services.

To get rid of the freeloader issue, there's another option. You could set up a small dump. A demo punishment, so to say. You bring her down to 6k-6.5k and we will be scared shitless! I'm sure you would collect more than the fair 50 BTC price you're asking for your pump.

Deal?





2186. Post 51797631 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

LFC, Pamoldar and other ignorers: sorry if I'm keeping it up. You can't deprive us all of this fresh windfall of fun in times of boring price jitter!  Tongue

I'm sure it won't last long anyway.



2187. Post 51797660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

He timbered a few pages ago if I'm not mistaken.



2188. Post 51797994 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Globb0 on July 12, 2019, 01:53:35 PM
Will post a photo later so you know the 75 BTC will be safe

Where do you find a Yugo gas mask?



2189. Post 51800003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on July 12, 2019, 03:44:39 PM
I think it's fun watching the troll being royally trolled.

Even more fun to troll back a little!
Pity so many of us are annoyed  Undecided
I'll try to hold it until I can't resist - while limiting the quotes to the bare minimum.



2190. Post 51812101 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

@BobLawBlaw, @makrospek and the rest: of course it's not even worth discussing why the poor guy is a newbie scammer or a moron troll. The only good use of some of his posts was to practice our semi-secret routines (Kathleen's bike springs to mind) or just having a good laugh. Well sod it no more fun i guess... Huh



2191. Post 51818618 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

No string of long liquidations yet? Bob... Bob wake uuuup!! There's a nice dip for you to buy!

EDIT
I just hit a pretty number of posts.



2192. Post 51819994 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

100 coins for Derp!
Corn sinking, I'm scared.
But... no dominoes...


#haiku



2193. Post 51820175 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Derp still replying,
voice altered by a gas mask
PAY! Or corn will die.

#haiku



2194. Post 51820610 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Derp is relentless.
It's getting really boring.
A job for Theymos?

#haiku



2195. Post 51822879 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Dabs on July 14, 2019, 03:47:59 PM
I get it. The dude does not want a $5 million dollar pay day. I mean, everyone can see it on the blockchain.

Dabs, it doesn't stand.
Make believe Derp's words are real?
"Never sarcastic..."

#haiku



2196. Post 51823526 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

We've been ready to kiss 10k for weeks. Man up, brothers. BTFD and HODL!



2197. Post 51824384 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 14, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
Republic of Georgia Exempts Cryptocurrencies From Value-Added Tax

https://cointelegraph.com/news/republic-of-georgia-exempts-cryptocurrencies-from-value-added-tax

"With the introduction of the bill, residents of the country can exchange cryptocurrencies for fiat currency without the transaction being subjected to VAT. "

Ok, who wants to move to Tbilissi ?





Alright if you speak Russian or Georgian because English is not common, and writing looks like this


Russian doesn't get much love though, and millennials do not speak it generally. The Georgians are friendly and welcoming. The food is good, and they have wine. Well, something that resembles wine anyway.

BTW @Ibian, relax. It's not like Syria yet.



2198. Post 51824431 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: ivomm on July 14, 2019, 05:19:44 PM
The next 24 hours are critical.

Let's see what happens in a few hours, when potential fresh dip buying fiat hits the exchanges.



2199. Post 51826300 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: serveria.com on July 14, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
Was Fed too tired or what?  Cool
Of course the Fed is tired of printing printing printing...
Oops! Different topic sorry  Tongue



2200. Post 51827771 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: kingcolex on July 14, 2019, 11:59:09 PM
what the fuck is going on ?
what's the reason for this dump?
Trump's tweets ?
It's just a part of the heartbeat of a volatile market, shit moves up and down, don't panic and no he didn't have any impact with his tweet if anything its congress announcing tech companies aren't going to be able to deal centralized crypto willy nilly.
Indeed, I think it was Facebook's libra that triggered the orange ape.



2201. Post 51827802 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 15, 2019, 12:12:08 AM
(scam snipped)

I was about to send you 51 BTC (1 extra as a gift for you) but then noticed that you've also mentioned XRP address (and tag). Sorry, we don't like XRP guys in here, and never help them either.

At least delete the addresses from your quote, so when infofront deletes the original post, no address is shown and no dumb newbie will be scammed.



2202. Post 51827827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 15, 2019, 12:16:56 AM
Below $10k.

EDIT: Above $10k.

(scam snipped)

I was about to send you 51 BTC (1 extra as a gift for you) but then noticed that you've also mentioned XRP address (and tag). Sorry, we don't like XRP guys in here, and never help them either.

At least delete the addresses from your quote, so when infofront deletes the original post, no address is shown and no dumb newbie will be scammed.

Done, sir! Anything else?

Thanks, Raja Smiley
By the way you beat me to it! I was going to post the under 10k/over 10k observation.



2203. Post 51836560 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

He'll make a new account anyway. We had our fun (well I did as well as a few others), but now he's getting noisy, whiney and annoying. Best option is to let his posts drown in a sea of silence.



2204. Post 51837210 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

I never said fuck off to anyone in this noble circle, ripe with the most refined gentlemen and a few gracious ladies.



2205. Post 51837559 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 15, 2019, 08:43:47 PM
I never said fuck off to anyone in this noble circle, ripe with the most refined boys, inspiring towards gentlemen status by imbibing hookers, lambos and blow  and a few one gracious ladies chick.

FTFY    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You're devoid of any subtlety, JJ!  Roll Eyes



2206. Post 51837568 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 15, 2019, 09:13:38 PM
You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.

Mainly it boils down to filling our bags before big brother shit hits the fan. BTFD.



2207. Post 51837704 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

I never said it to anyone... yet.



2208. Post 51837912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 15, 2019, 10:02:43 PM
I am sure that there are plenty of govt peeps who sufficiently know what bitcoin is too, and likely some of them are already participating in these kinds of bitcoin and crypto threads and perhaps even trying to influence the direction of our discussions to the extent possible... D_eddie?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Shit, I've been outed.



2209. Post 51935325 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

When life calls you out
you fall behind with the peeps
it's 30 pages

#haiku



2210. Post 51936310 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

I smell small scale short stop hunting going on. This could mean strong moves incoming (down). Seat belts, gentlemen?



2211. Post 51946744 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: serveria.com on July 25, 2019, 08:00:58 AM
when will BTC price superpass no. of  WO pages?
 Undecided Huh Roll Eyes

You need the exact date& time man?  Grin
I think we've had a poll about that already?



2212. Post 51947039 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Times of tumbleweed
even trolls are tired and bored
missing Last V8.

#haiku



2213. Post 51947518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Moderate barting. Doesn't feel like ATH times at the moment.



2214. Post 51969968 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on July 27, 2019, 01:43:07 PM
Here is one for your bucket list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandragora_(genus)

I was offered once & out of fear declined. DMT sounds interesting. Definitely on my list.

#
My advice re mandragora: don't mess around with those nasty plants and their tropane alkaloids. They're dangerous and not even any fun, no matter what high tales the literary scamster Don Juan tells about them. DMT is in a different league, and mostly harmless to begin with.



2215. Post 51972717 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 27, 2019, 06:22:49 PM
Hot amazing girl
Twenty seventh of July
Always stay with me

This isn't about bitcoin, but it could be construed as a minimalistic love song  Wink



2216. Post 51974817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Up and down, over 600$ in 5 minutes. Roller coaster time. Buckle up!



2217. Post 51974831 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: GrosWesh on July 27, 2019, 11:46:38 PM
Not a question a 'sensibility'. Tell this to moderators so, if some posts do not suit them maybe they should just 'blacklist people'.

Our graceful moderator cannot ban people from this thread. And some of these trolls have been here from the start anyway. No use banning them, as it's easy enough to make new accounts. We have the ignore button for those cases.



2218. Post 52016949 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Corn gently climbing
doesn't feel like a short squeeze
yet, don't say "we're safe"

#haiku



2219. Post 52017515 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: willope on July 31, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
Just wondering if anyone did notice the HUGE golden cross of today (50d, 200d MA, 3d chart):
https://i.ibb.co/n0JVsXv/heyyhua.png
1.Death cross, followed by immediate capitulation.
2.Golden cross, you know what to do now.

I thought 50/200 DMA cross happened in May 14th... What am I missing?

Edit: aah 3d = 3day, yay. got it.
DMA and SMA may have different results. I always look SMA indicators.

https://i.imgur.com/yEhWqk0.png
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51995759#msg51995759
Thanks, this chart is a good one. So, what seems to be sure is that after a golden cross with these parameters, price never goes below the 50d MA line until the end of the bull market.

Good chart, comforting.
But nothing "seems to be sure"
She does what she wants.

#haiku



2220. Post 52030319 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

@Pamoldar, @LFC - It seems both of you share my thought. 10k is probably going to be the post in the middle of the battlefield. I don't think we've left the 4 digits behind for good. However, my gut does whisper that by the end of 2019 we'll be off to distant shores.

Of course, we all know where stuff from the gut has to pass... this is strictly SOMA.



2221. Post 52038161 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: fillippone on August 02, 2019, 01:19:06 PM
Bitcoin, halvening and Plan B appear on the Sun!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9634852/bitcoin-price-rise-85-all-coins-mined/

Funny picture caption thou:



They put hard disk mining bitcoin? Really?

WO CONTEST: Best dialogue between the two blokes in front of the "hard disk" wall wins 2 merits!



Ok I start the contest.

"What the hell, we have thousand of Hard disk and still didn't find a single Bitcoin"
"Told you not to trust those chinese stuff".

Not very funny, I bet you can do better!

(funny HaiKu dialogue gests 4 merits)

Bitcoin's hard money
an SSD won't cut it
real hard disk needed

#haiku



2222. Post 52084024 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

I'm twelve pages behind and I'm leaving in a few hours. It feels bad to leave with a backlog to start  Embarrassed
I will be out for a month more or less, and my access to this forum will be very limited.
I hope she behaves while I'm not here. I will be checking on her anyway Wink

Maybe I'll be able to able to post before I leave. If not, see you in a few weeks.



2223. Post 52087851 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

I'm pleased to see so many fellow observers acknowledged my checkout post. Thanks guys!

At the moment I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I've got a double position as I often do. A long, in the green, and a much smaller short (size is about 20% of the long), in the red. Overall at the moment I'm profiting about 1.5% of the play stash. The dilemma is: close everything or just let it run?

I'm not afraid of the long being liquidated: that would take an apocalypse (under 4k as it is now). The short is so underleveraged it can't actually be liquidated. I've set stops to close the short in profit if it dips, even a slight correction would do.  So the long is safe even if she goes lower than my conservative estimate, since closing the short would boost my margin. If she goes UP UP UP, I will keep profiting with a slight 20% handicap because of the short. The issue is I don't want to miss out on a potential 12k+ run if it happens in these 3-4 weeks.

What would you do if you were in my shoes?



2224. Post 52087990 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

You're right fillippone, that's the rational thing to do.
Pity because I'm decently set up if a big run up happens.
I've left similar situations open for one month already a couple of times, and it paid out both times.
But this time... uh, I must be getting old and wimpy.
Long already closed, waiting for a $2 dip to trigger closing the short too.


EDIT Reminder to self: observing 11672.



2225. Post 52088107 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Thanks JSRAW! I'll do my best to come back with nice stories and bits - food porn in Mic's honor, maybe. And you, please, mind your digests. We've got to the point where we depend on them...  Grin

Thanks fillippone, I just needed your nudge. Everything closed, 1.46% profit on the play stash. Could've been worse.  Cool

Thanks bitcoin, be a good girl. Or be a bad girl. We still love you either way, and you know it!



2226. Post 52088189 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on August 07, 2019, 10:32:42 AM
Too late for the advice, but:

*set a scaled take profit on the short and leave it.
* let the long run until December 2019, and potentially longer

Indeed, my daring half would have just LOVED to leave the long running until kingdom come (well, until end of year or earlier actually). A small FOMO condition. The short was too small to scale the profit taking: one order would have been fine - besides, I like to close shorts as soon as I can because they make me uncomfortable. But the long... the long...

Thanks for your advice, Hairy. The conservative choice has less glitter but more peace of mind while I'm out. But the entry point on that long was sweet indeed...  Cheesy



2227. Post 52117518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):

Managed to log in, but catching up from a phone is beyond me. I would like to post a game pic as suggested by a reputable peep, but I don't know how to remove exif data or edit the pic to show a slice at a time... I'll see what I can do.



2228. Post 52187457 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Omg, my backlog grew epically. I can't think of getting back home to a few hundred pages. I only have checked the price a few times during these days, but I was able to see sub 10k and back up. All seems normal on bitcoinland.



2229. Post 52216382 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 10, 2019, 08:45:28 PM
I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You can keep pushing that narrative but no one wants to use a fork owned and run by Calvin Ayre and Craig Wright. Or Roger Ver for that matter.  I don’t know how you can stand associating yourself with those characters.

Funny how I'm clearly talking about BTC, and you yammer on about personalities associated with other Bitcoins.
Are there "other bitcoins"? I think the prefix is a bit different. It does rhyme with "bit", though.



2230. Post 52220696 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Reading a bit when I can, catching up isn't manageable for me on the move. But I just noticed...

We have a new legend!

Congrats Mic!



2231. Post 52234795 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on August 18, 2019, 04:45:20 PM
OP gone mad LOL



I am sure those who picked sex, does not have a girlfriend or wife 🤪

Good afternoon by the way,
Observing @ $10,450
I did vote sex, and I have several girlfriends. But
 when I think of sex, it very seldom involves any of them. Does that count as if I had none?



2232. Post 52243408 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: JSRAW on August 20, 2019, 04:07:00 PM
^ Welcome back eddie.
Thanks JSRAW! Technically I'm not back yet, just found some time and the technical means to catch up a little, do I replied on a couple of posts that begged for a word. I'll be back for good in a couple of weeks.

In the meantime, all I've seen is a little sideways motion. It's just as if she wanted her August break after all the tiresome up and down. Well dear, you can have your usual summer rest like just about every year. You can and will do whatever you feel like anyway, of course. You know we still love you!



2233. Post 52243455 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: jbreher on August 20, 2019, 04:48:23 PM

::le sigh::

Hey d_eddie, great to see you 'round these parts - as misguided though you be.
Great to see you're still hanging around too, quite misguided as usual  Wink



2234. Post 52244742 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on August 22, 2019, 03:33:33 PM
We got our selves a WO-playboy Cheesy
Nothing of the kind unfortunately, but thanks anyway  Grin



2235. Post 52252951 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Indeed the middle class has a hard time finding some inspired leader to voice their issues. That's not only the USA, as far as I know (admittedly not that far).

By the way, I just caught up, with unsuitable equipment and a spotty connection! I had to skip some, or fly over the longest posts (nothing personal, amigo).



2236. Post 52257279 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: THX 1138 on August 24, 2019, 04:20:11 PM
Relaying response:

Quote from: Shelby Moore

(snip)
Again note I am not a BSV-shill. BSV is likely a decoy employed by Craig to obscure that he is really reinstating legacy, immutable Bitcoin.

Thank you! How could we manage without our daily Shelby? Luckily he's not a shill, since he explicitly said so.
/s



2237. Post 52263164 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on August 25, 2019, 02:48:37 PM
This is what I'm seeing on BTC dominance graph:



Seriously, IF this breaks down, go get some alts to further increase your BTC stash.

Hahahahahaha

It would not be very smart to be trading based on that kind of information or even deciding whether or not to play around with shitcoins based on that kind of information.

Hmmmm...mmmm....mmmmm... Not even with 10% of your BTC stash?
Hmmm, 10% sounds like a lot to me, but I'm no trader.



2238. Post 52264003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Welcome back, V8. Hope your trip was good. You've been missed!



2239. Post 52270909 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

About time I'd say, but he might have to wait for some more activity.



2240. Post 52307450 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Not Sunday, I know
But sudden impulse to buy...
It must be the dip.

#haiku



2241. Post 52321111 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quoting for my own reference, sorry for the slight spam aftertaste.

(I want to check this out when I'm back.)

Quote from: ivomm on August 31, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-bank-accounts-now-available-184131158.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9vbGQucmVkZGl0LmNvbS9yL0JpdGNvaW4v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGwMTjLLt4nLNR5UJnVcic1PQn7EBeNWd10L8GQ1qwTfnuceBJQhi6CIfZ_7njjLciZHYbaugklw9CVQ8tolXTvZImsIJMkv_XCzcL0bq1JMigyMOYguv9-urgug4-dTjAG91hqVkOKu3ykEcK4Wvl3abFo8ezQ4iSs58ljU_jFN

The company said that all bank accounts will be hosted by solarisBank, a licensed German bank supervised by the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin), and deposits up to €100,000 will be protected by the German deposit guarantee scheme.

Customer Bitcoin balances, according to the company’s chief financial officer Christoph Iwaniez, are “booked directly on the Blockchain via a multi-signature wallet,” allowing customers to be “fully in control of their wallets at all times.”

Account-holders receive a free debit Mastercard that can be used for contactless payments and free withdrawals at over 40 million locations worldwide, and pay a one percent fee on bitcoin trades.



2242. Post 52324678 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

@becoin PRC govt shill our just trolling us for a laugh?



2243. Post 52330355 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Negotiation on September 01, 2019, 04:48:31 PM
@eagletwitt3r

Everything else can be taken from you by men in black with guns #Bitcoin


https://twitter.com/eagletwitt3r/status/1168026089483956224
On the contrary, bitcoin can only be taken by men equipped with $5 wrenches...  Roll Eyes



2244. Post 52330416 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 01, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
Time for some Sunday Haiku

A victim-less crime
Possession of crack cocaine
Mandatory minimums

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mandatory terms
Prison populations grow
U.S. War on Drugs ex·po·nen·tial·ly

︻╦̵̵͇̿̿̿̿══╤─


edit: for clarity
+1 WOsMerit
But the unedited version is stronger IMHO, the war on drugs line makes for a tidy kigo.



2245. Post 52333508 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 01, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
Yeah,
Of course that sign meant WO to me.
If has any meaning for other persons, I won’t use it anymore any I will scribble or I will get more creative!

I think we're cool with your meaning for that sign. I am, at least. That was a nice idea IMO!

BTW welcome to the hat club, SuperTA! Another great Xhomerx10 job.



2246. Post 52338762 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 02, 2019, 02:00:28 PM
lcan’t wait to get rid of both businesses tbh.

I’ll probably buy 7 or 8 apartments so I can live off the rental income & that’ll do me.
I see your point and basically agree, but isn't managing an apartment too much work? Maintenance work begged for, tenants who don't pay in time yet are too difficult to get rid of (depending on law - UK is more landlord friendly than most other Euro countries)... I'd be looking for an easier income stream. Maybe some dividend ETF. Advice anyone?

EDIT I hate posting from a phone.



2247. Post 52346194 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Torque on September 02, 2019, 04:57:24 PM
REITs? They're like ETFs but for Rental properties, professional managed by a team. You don't do anything except collect dividends. The MER is usually a bit higher than index ETFs, but still below 1%.

Can be lucrative, but one has to be careful and do the proper research. The vast majority of REITs are insolvent, and just one downturn away from bankruptcy. A high dividend yield is usually the tell; the higher it is, the more likely the REIT is under bad financial stress.
REITs have a mandatory minimum on returns to stakeholders, in the neighborhood of 90%. Hard to check exact figure right now.

Not sure somebody else already remarked that? Haven't caught up yet... As she crossed back above 10k, WO activity got much busier 😉



2248. Post 52373182 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

I'm back. Before I catch up, I'd like to share some images collected during my trip. Here's my gf modeling against a background some of you might like Wink

While some elements have been superimposed to protect the innocent, the wings are real and were actually hanging on the wall. They are a perfect fit for her <3




2249. Post 52373306 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Here's a new round of the WOW (WO-Where?) game. I think it's going to be fairly difficult, at least until a few pixels are uncovered. However, the WO participants have already proven how good at this they are, so it might be cracked earlier than I imagine.

I have 5 smerits as of now, but I'm setting the prize for this round at a conservative 3 merits because I'm sure a couple of merits will go before I'm done catching up.




2250. Post 52375573 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 04, 2019, 10:26:36 PM

Mmmmmm must be the HODLnest and the actions that just took place in there that are making me dizzy atm  Kiss
Ahaha!
That why.

My HODLnest is so boring!

Always have a  compagnon mate over there Tongue

@fillippone : invite him  Grin

No need for a stallion .... and my HODLnest is already occupied bro

I think JSRAW was referring to fillippone's HODLnest - not yours, Mic. Maybe you can help a good friend feel less lonely once in a while if cryptoqueeen can manage a night alone?  Tongue



2251. Post 52375620 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: DaRude on September 05, 2019, 04:45:54 AM

That's their only option to hold off against Libra. While BTC gets popcorn
Indeed, when corn ex-plodes (ex-ponentially) all hodlers do get popcorn.



2252. Post 52375689 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 06, 2019, 09:00:56 AM
also, main market square Kracow
Is that a shot at my WOW game round? If so, it's completely off.

Quote
also tanks are done, except to quell civilians
I read an article in Scientific American about anti-tank weapons that made me think "if a war ever comes and I'm forcibly enrolled, I don't want to serve in a tank." It is a few decades old already, can't even imagine what they've cooked up since. The only practical use of tanks today is in situations like Tien An Men square brutality. I hope it doesn't get down to tanks in Hong Kong.

By the way V8, I don't know you personally and I'm no religious person, but I've been thinking of you and mrs V8 quite a bit after reading your post. Big hug.



2253. Post 52376025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 06, 2019, 03:21:13 AM
There are a lot of things that are differently taxed in Sweden and Norway, And the Norwegians do smuggle a lot of things to Norway from Sweden, but that is counteracted with spot checks and cameras. Open borders with no wall doesn't mean you are aloud to freely move goods, just people.
OMG. smuggling stuff from Sweden to save on taxes? This sounds grim.



2254. Post 52376680 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 06, 2019, 11:23:32 AM
Here's a new round of the WOW (WO-Where?) game. I think it's going to be fairly difficult, at least until a few pixels are uncovered. However, the WO participants have already proven how good at this they are, so it might be cracked earlier than I imagine.

I have 5 smerits as of now, but I'm setting the prize for this round at a conservative 3 merits because I'm sure a couple of merits will go before I'm done catching up.



Have got no F***ing clue bro Smiley

Neither have I?

Not getting much further than a basket weave pavement pattern.
Somehow I feel a link with soccer...
Thought I got close with Kings Cross in London but no go...

Not much to go on...
That's fair. Two takers already. Here's more, though not much help (yet), I'm afraid.






2255. Post 52377545 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Phil_S on September 06, 2019, 11:50:37 AM
Cmon d_eddie stop being silly, show us some clues.

Alright alright... sorry guys that's how the pic is  Tongue
There should be some useful visual info here.
Adding a clue: Eastern hemisphere.






2256. Post 52377646 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 06, 2019, 12:08:10 PM
Not getting much further than a basket weave pavement pattern.
Somehow I feel a link with soccer...
Thought I got close with Kings Cross in London but no go...
-snip-

Well, somebody mentioned Krakow and d_eddie said it's a long way from there or smth like that. So I assume this is far away from Europe? North America or Asia? China? Some big square in China? What was it's name?
Some big place but it's not China. Yet Wink

Quote from: nutildah on September 06, 2019, 12:10:12 PM
My guess would have been Times Square but its just too empty.

Times Square is on the other side.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2019, 12:22:34 PM
Tiananmen Square?

No cigar, but have a toke if you like Wink


Quote from: hodl_2015 on September 06, 2019, 12:49:16 PM
Wikipedia is seriously lacking list of worldwide plaza's, indexed by pavement patterns.
Surprisingly, Google AI also isn't autistic enough to care about the patterns.

EDIT:
This one in Spain looks very similar, but not beg enough:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4588189,-3.4790733,3a,18.3y,232.07h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s01FQ2rPFSG0LW3c2SoMvQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I always wondered how you top WOW players went for it. "Plazas indexed by pavement pattern", uh, sounds far fetched indeed. I wouldn't even try and look for anything like that.




2257. Post 52377671 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: nutildah on September 06, 2019, 12:46:07 PM
Tiananmen Square?

When I was in the Shanghai airport for a layover, the first thing I did was fire up my laptop and attempt to google "Tiananmen square massacre," but it turns out everything related to Google is blocked, because you're supposed to use Baidu. Facebook and Wikipedia were also blocked entirely. I did manage to connect to Tor and find the Wikipedia article on it that way.

When I was getting on the connecting plane, they made re-open my laptop case and open up my laptop, and they swabbed it with some kind of liquid on a brush. My worst fear was, "oh no, they're erasing my hard drive or something," but who knows what they were actually doing... testing it for bombs? I still have no idea.
Yes they swab for traces of explosives. Happened to me too recently (in Germany). I was clean of drugs in case they were looking for coke or something, so no sweat.  But I just googled it anyway.



2258. Post 52378079 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 06, 2019, 02:01:00 PM
Chernobyl?  Cheesy

Found the same pavement pattern there....
Right, I'd go to Chernobyl and maybe feast on the local delicacies while at it  Roll Eyes


Quote from: nutildah on September 06, 2019, 02:03:27 PM
Hmm... white guy wearing shorts and what appear to be Crocs... Empty space. Looks like the entrance to something official. Security guard in upper right hand corner. Well I'm stumped but I gave you one merit so now you have an even number and thus one more to send to whoever does know the answer.
That's not an official guard, though the place does have guards of some sort. And thanks for the merit! Prize is now 4 merits thanks to you.

And by the way, a big thanks to @Dabs who loaded me up during my kind-of-absence! He's the reason I could award a prize in the first place.



2259. Post 52378111 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: JSRAW on September 06, 2019, 02:27:50 PM
I'm back. Before I catch up, I'd like to share some images collected during my trip. Here's my gf modeling against a background some of you might like Wink

While some elements have been superimposed to protect the innocent, the wings are real and were actually hanging on the wall. They are a perfect fit for her <3



Just for confirmation Ed, i see Trump's hairstyle in editing. is that right? If yes..

Mrs. Ed aka Innocent know about that?  Grin

Ehm.



2260. Post 52378163 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Febo on September 06, 2019, 02:27:55 PM
Right now Ireland island is without border between Irish people that live in Ireland and on Northern Ireland that is part of UK.   Once UK leave EU, Ireland demand that such border dont appear. And whole Europe will stand beside our Irish brothers. Because we are One! Their rights are our rights. Fuck with Ireland, fuck with us all.

The point is the UK might unilaterally impose some kind of border control. Tax policy (tariffs, difference in taxation of certain goods) might be a likely reason. Or the EU could - but Ireland could easily dodge EU pressure by arguing, delaying, waffling, re-arguing, re-delaying etc.



2261. Post 52378191 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 06, 2019, 02:31:14 PM
Looks like a railway station? Or a mausoleum?

Not a station. The second guess is close. I've provided a few honest hints already... next, a few more pixels.



2262. Post 52378346 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: arewethereyet? on September 06, 2019, 02:42:45 PM
Looks like a railway station? Or a mausoleum?
Not a station. The second guess is close. I've provided a few honest hints already... next, a few more pixels.
The stairs are several decades older than the floor tiles, which look very new. The stairs were not updated on purpose, so history is being commemorated or recognized?? 

Quote from: fillippone on September 06, 2019, 02:44:01 PM
It must be a square/monument somewhere in Hong Kong.
I am depleting my real life to find it...

Good points, both of you. WOers are a smart bunch indeed! Fillippone in particular is almost right on target... (you'll tell me how you did it won't you?)

In fact it's a monument, and as you can now see, I doubt StreetView will help much.

Now for the promised pixels. I think the next taker will nail it.




2263. Post 52378443 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 06, 2019, 02:55:02 PM
National Palace Museum Taiwan  Cool
Legends will legend.  Tongue

I'd like to know how you (and fillippone, who's got to have kicked the major assist) did it.
I'm always clueless with WOW games and always eager to learn a neat trick.





2264. Post 52378488 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on September 06, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
Here's a simpler solution that includes both parties: Ireland leaves the shithole that is known as the UK.
The problem with that is that the government of Ireland cannot admit to its population that it cannot afford to take on the burden of Northern Ireland from the UK (although its currently in the best position it has even been to do so).   Northern Ireland costs the rest of the UK about £7bn a year. Even with the drop on value of GBP that is about EUR 7.7bn.  Irish GDP is EUR 340bn, and at the moment its basically spending neutral so does not have a budget deficit.  Uniting Ireland at the same level of support for the north as the British government supplies Northern Ireland, immediately gives Ireland a budget deficit of circa 2% (which is below the EU limit so that is ok)  and gives Dublin the security and sectarian headache that is Ulster.
Well, it is indeed the best time to run a referendum in the north and do this. It's just causing unnecessary bureaucracy and issues. UK is one of the worst shitholes that we have nowadays, the Irish would benefit from the change. Cheesy Such a move would cause minor market turmoil for sure.
Hmm the Irish economy consists of Guinness,lepricorns and terrorism. Good luck with that .
And good luck to PM hodlers if leprechaun technology improves.



2265. Post 52378620 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 06, 2019, 03:07:53 PM
Google image search FTW!  Cool
Thank you for the merit if any was left  Kiss
Reverse search you mean?
Of course I kept the prize stash for the winner. You have been properly awarded.


Quote from: fillippone on September 06, 2019, 03:10:53 PM
National Palace Museum Taiwan  Cool
Legends will legend.  Tongue

I'd like to know how you (and fillippone, who's got to have kicked the major assist) did it.
I'm always clueless with WOW games and always eager to learn a neat trick.

Clue for me was "chinese not yet"
this called to HK or Taiwan.

So I checked various wikipedia articles like the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declared_monuments_of_Hong_Kong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monuments_and_memorials_in_Taiwan

Trign to find the floor pattern (or the yellow walls after) but I failed.
I knew saying HK would have been an assist for someone else on the race, but, who cares! We all won because we had fun!
Good work Wilhelm!

I received one extra in the meantime (thanks jojo and nutildah), so you got my last +1 for best runner up  Grin

Congratz sirz.



2266. Post 52378693 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: JSRAW on September 06, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
Indian Subcontinent.... India, Pakistan and Bangladesh  Grin

I've recently met a few people from Bangladesh, and they were outstanding persons. I'd like to make a small donation that is likely to actually go where it helps, and not in some scammer's pocket. Any hints?



2267. Post 52379025 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: Globb0 on September 06, 2019, 03:59:00 PM
...just one more thing sir
Something about your wife possibly?
Instant +1 WOsMerit.



2268. Post 52379278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 06, 2019, 04:22:43 PM
Your boy LFC_Bitcoin relaxing like a true OG - With fillipone WO hand sign!




You should use the left hand, as the three fingers,  appropriately spread, are the "W" and the thumb and pointing finger are the "O".
Right hand can be OK if reversed (palm up and slight arm torsion).

Quote
come on!
Take another picture!
(don't forget the background!)
Actually, a few more pictures might be necessary to perfect WO sign technique. The background is of course critical to make sure it's really you O:-)

Quote from: VB1001 on September 06, 2019, 04:28:53 PM
You don't see the w? Cheesy
Let's avoid the other letters. I mean, let us concentrate on the hand only, shall we? Lest anybody starts asking about the O.



2269. Post 52379420 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Which letters?



2270. Post 52380032 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Ouch. A mid strength shake. Brace, gentlemen, the weekend dance begins.



2271. Post 52380205 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

I voted Neither (sideways) for our poll, FWIW. Grabbed a bite on a small exploratory short. The larger long is in the red, but it won't be there for long according to my sophisticated SOMA analysis tools.



2272. Post 52381349 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: becoin on September 06, 2019, 08:16:43 PM
because majority didn't take me seriously.

And they shouldn't. What you say is just meaningless gibberish. It could go up or it could go down. Of course, it won't go left or right.

If you'd like to be taken seriously you have to say if you're long or short? What are your take profit and stop loss levels? The rest is just blah blah blah.

Publishing exact figures here before the trade is in safe territory could be unwise. We're shark food, and I'm pretty sure many big fish and sea mammals patrol the area for signs of pasture. They could be counting on a small school of fish following precise, easy to follow directions and go on a wild stop hunt with the prey's GPS coordinates on their radar.

I still think it is possible to explain - or hint at - the thoughts behind one's trades, and I appreciate those that do.



2273. Post 52381590 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
because majority didn't take me seriously.

And they shouldn't. What you say is just meaningless gibberish. It could go up or it could go down. Of course, it won't go left or right.

If you'd like to be taken seriously you have to say if you're long or short? What are your take profit and stop loss levels? The rest is just blah blah blah.


Long.

No stops.  

Liquidation somewhere sub $3k.

Take profit over $180k.  

Best of luck shaking me out of my position.
Exactly ;-)

BTW, about time you legend up, man! Yo Theymos... what has your deterministic system decreed about Hairy's minimum required activity? Uh, guess we'll find out soon enough.



2274. Post 52381692 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Theymos said it's determined univocally from the user's data at signup, but the computation is a bit convoluted. So, reverse engineering it is unpractical, especially since it would require some corpus of data (user info/legend threshold activity for a sizable number of legendary members), but whoever can read the code knows how it actually works.

In my understanding. this implies that no pseudo-random generator is involved.



2275. Post 52381709 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2019, 10:00:17 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?
At most 14 per 2-week active posting period.



2276. Post 52381729 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 06, 2019, 10:02:37 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?

 1 per day paid out every 2 weeks Smiley


Actually it's a bit more complicated. It takes into account if the user has actually made at least one post per day (cumulative: posts in the previous 2-week periods do count). Here's the relevant quote from meta.

Quote from: John (John K.) on April 17, 2013, 05:54:54 AM
Ranks



The way activity is calculated:
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

Activity is updated every hour.



2277. Post 52382405 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 06, 2019, 11:50:34 PM
Theymos said it's determined univocally from the user's data at signup, but the computation is a bit convoluted. So, reverse engineering it is unpractical, especially since it would require some corpus of data (user info/legend threshold activity for a sizable number of legendary members), but whoever can read the code knows how it actually works.

In my understanding. this implies that no pseudo-random generator is involved.

"determined from user's data at signup"  That seems pretty random, unless it means that we have a quota system?

Subsequent behavior seems much more important than whatever was the state of the member's data at sign up...

But, hey, maybe I am a skeptic?.....
Deterministic, as in "775 + (ASCII checksum of the user's email address mod (1031-775))", or some similar concoction, which is random only for those who don't know the algorithm working behind the scenes. As in Arthur C Clarke's statement about technology, which is indistinguishable from magic if advanced enough.

It has been done this way to avoid loading the system too much: no need to scan the user's historical data at regular intervals. This is from the horse's mouth - a horse called theymos, though I don't have the original post handy.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 06, 2019, 11:50:34 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?

That would mean you have been here 18years  Wink

It just feels that way

Hey... I smell a scam.

Let me get this straight.  You are claiming to have been involved in bitcoin for 18 years.

I have my doubts... call me Tomas.
Hi Tomas, I think Hairy's statement is qualitative - not quantitative. As in, "It feels like a hundred years" - only it's 18.

EDIT - changed 750 to 775 in the mockup formula after seeing Dabs's exact quote from meta.



2278. Post 52382414 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on September 07, 2019, 12:20:54 AM
Observing.....................to little, to low prices......

Cumming Bull Observing $10,313.90

Mooooo...


That must be a cow who was born in the wrong body.
She's needing a strap-on badly. Who knows why I have a hunch she'd like the attachment to be green.

It's this modern gender thing, you know. See what happens, the world is rotting. In my day, good ol' times, blahblahblah.



2279. Post 52386023 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: akhjob on September 07, 2019, 07:31:02 AM
But do you bring h-jobs?   Grin Sorry, couldn't resist

Lol. NO Grin But know this "A jerk in the hand is worth two in the bush."  Tongue

Well... now you just need a hat.... and then you be styling, dude.

I'll get one someday will all your help  Smiley

A little help from me because of the lulz.  Cheesy Cheesy



2280. Post 52387337 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: vroom on September 07, 2019, 02:36:03 PM
another bcash idiot for my ignore list

saying that segwit is not bitcoin is the same like saying TCP is not IP. it's the same, but it's another layer. TCP can't exist without IP and segwit can't exist without bitcoin.
Saying that is actually wrong. You are mixing up SegWit and LN. LN is another layer. SegWit is part of Bitcoin.

I'm not sure about this, maybe you are right. But LN is based on segwit and segwit has a second name, the consensus layer.
Actually it's as Lauda says. The Segregated Witness thingy basically alters the transaction format so that certain (most) cryptographic proofs (the "witness") are not on the main blockchain (they're "segregated"). That's why space can be saved: segwit transactions can be stored more efficiently because some data can be discarded. As a result, the average transaction fee is significantly lower.



2281. Post 52387433 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Lauda on September 07, 2019, 02:43:47 PM
Actually it's as Lauda says. The Segregated Witness thingy basically alters the transaction format so that certain (most) cryptographic proofs (the "witness") are not on the main blockchain (they're "segregated"). That's why space can be saved: segwit transactions can be stored more efficiently because some data can be discarded. This is why fees are significantly lower.
This is also incorrect. The signatures get stored in the chain as before, they just aren't counted towards the classic block size limit due to the segregation that you have mentioned.
I stand corrected. Witness data can be removed from the Merkle tree, not from the chain.



2282. Post 52397962 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Watching the corn grow
In the field and on the chart
it's #Haiku Sunday

There. I obliged  Cool



2283. Post 52400792 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 08, 2019, 10:32:37 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

one point three percent
every shitcoin bagholder
is this alt season?

Unknowingly, or...?
Posted a visual #haiku!
Goose with a surprise



2284. Post 52400884 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: ulrich_zh on September 08, 2019, 07:25:49 PM
Good day Bitcoinland
Ten four four two U.S. bucks
(Bitcoinaverage).

Still going sideways
When will this crap ever end?
Maybe November.

Buying those cheap coins
Still plentiful time brothers
Hurry though moon soon

5
7
5

I got it, right?


Formally perfect
debut deserving merit
LFC scrapped it?


+1 WOsMerit to LFC (if the #haiku was actually written by him, and this isn't a quoting mistake by ulrich_zh)



2285. Post 52408251 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 09, 2019, 06:19:49 PM
Oh gawd, Roach.  You are devolving into delirium.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Devolving? Revolving.



2286. Post 52418534 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

ouch



2287. Post 52418606 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

I think I bought something at the very (local) bottom. Got lucky with a stop. My suffering long position has increased, and its liquidation price got closer to 3k.  Cool

I'm willing to risk moar and bring my liquidation price just under 5k, or even higher. But I'll have to wait until 15k before getting that bold.  Wink



2288. Post 52419912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

So we had our flash dumplet - nothing really worrying as it was, just one more dip to buy moar. There was strong resistance just below 10k, and getting back over that line was a matter of minutes. Some bought a little. My guess is no one panic sold - and certainly no WO peep.

TL;DR Yawn.



2289. Post 52423618 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

I am a BTC believer. I am a HODLer.

Sometimes, however, the serpent of doubt slithers through my soul. This halving might be different from the others. What we know is that halvings are going to be more and more irrelevant as the supply decreases. What we don't know is the rate of increase of the irrelevance. In order to estimate possible halving effects, we can use a priori data and contingent data.

A priori data: current level of supply.

Contingent data: state of adoption, price, market sentiment, etc.

Just for a rough estimate, assuming the price at the halving is in the same ballpark as today:
 
DateReward (BTC) Price (USD/BTC) Reward (USD)
2012.11.28  50BTC12.35617.50 $
2016.07.0925BTC65016.250 k$
2020.05.XX12.5BTC10500131.250 k$

I've been looking at this table and pondering for a while, but the serpent isn't dead, not yet at least. Any food for thought? I'm still staying strong anyway, we all know why.

I am a BTC believer. I am a HODLer.



2290. Post 52423733 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 11, 2019, 11:28:43 AM
I mumbled a little bit on various themes we discussed on the WO thread lately.
 I posted this on a new thread:
Extracting stable positive return from high-volatile asset.HF recipe made simple

Hope you might find it useful.
It also gives hints on how to manage a selling program to exit bitcoin (for the degenerate WO members who aren't permaholders Wink...)

Good and simple read. Merit-worthy, but I'm dry.

+1 WOsMerit
(Sorry: valid in the WOT only, as per instructions from management.)



2291. Post 52426645 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 11, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
I am a BTC believer. I am a HODLer.

(snip doubt)

Another doubting Tomas wannabe seems to be puffing up its feathers within our midst.  

 (Hi d_eddie!!!! I see you.)

Do we need to deliver such growing doubter with a decently good-sized dose of WO bashing for his wanna-be inclined bear-talking like we had done with mindrust, biodom and lambie a few weeks ago?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

In other words, the beatings should continue until moral improves!!!!!!!!!  You fuck! (referring to d_eddie and any other wannabe BTC doubter)    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I should have posted that tomorrow.  Angry



2292. Post 52426715 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Merit of the Beast.



Now don't spoil this number by randomly awarding me dozens. Or do if you're really itching.  Tongue



2293. Post 52426953 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 11, 2019, 05:10:20 PM
Merit of the Beast.



Now don't spoil this number by randomly awarding me dozens. Or do if you're really itching.  Tongue

I'm dry so you will be stuck at 666 for a while  Grin

Pity. My advanced psychology trick didn't work...  Tongue

Related: A few days ago someone posted a link to a thread where members can upload screenshots of interesting merit/activity/etc figures. I haven't been able to find it by searching - either bitcointalk or google. The link was in this thread, of course. Can anyone help?



2294. Post 52427648 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 11, 2019, 06:37:15 PM
I prefer offtopic talking about precious metals or dirty fiat, but please, take the Bcash talk to another place.

I prefer rocket/train memes and cleavage  Grin
Let's not forget about double bottoms - or single ones, actually.



2295. Post 52427985 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

I have a technical question about my bitcoin node for my fellow verifiers.

My bitcoin node runs on a linux box. I kept it switched off while I was away. When I got back, I found the main drive had some problem, so I replaced it and reinstalled the system and some of the software, including bitcoind. So far so good. After this, I proceeded to restore the latest daily backup of the .bitcoin directory, which among other things contains the local copy of the blockchain. I then left the node running to verify and sync.

The surprise came when the catching up was done, and I launched the new daily backup. I use rsync, so only files that have changed actually get transferred. Well, apparently about half of the blocks need uploading to backup, which was never the case during my previous daily backup routine. Why have older block files changed?

I'm talking about blk0XXXX.dat files. The latest is blk01790.dat, so I expected the backup to begin well after blk01000.dat, but the current backup (still running) begins with

Code:
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00028.dat
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00031.dat
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00033.dat
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00036.dat
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00037.dat
.bitcoin/blocks/blk00038.dat

What could have happened?




2296. Post 52428396 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Thanks, LFC! I just posted my question in the subforum you suggested.



2297. Post 52428912 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 11, 2019, 08:35:22 PM
Thanks, LFC! I just posted my question in the subforum you suggested.

Yeah, you’ll get answers there, I’m sure of it. Those guys are really helpful.

First was "our" fillippone ;-)
Boblawblaw also runs a node, but he isn't posting that much recently.



2298. Post 52429116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Come on don't be so hard on yourself man, you're a legendary poster at heart already.



2299. Post 52434687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on September 12, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
$11000 in one hour  Roll Eyes
Just wait until they're done with the printing press...



2300. Post 52435036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

This looks a bit different from the latest bart/debart. More like the previous ramps, which did raise the floor a bit. Go bitcoin, go.



2301. Post 52437178 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: JSRAW on September 12, 2019, 03:42:16 PM
Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $ 10,210

And I have 40 pages in the queue to look for.

May be I can take help from JSRAW 😉

Here you go bro

1. .................................
-snip-
Great summary as usual! Merited.

I have a suggestion. How about tagging your summaries with some unique identifier like #JSRAWdigest or something like that? It would make it a lot easier when catching up  Cool



2302. Post 52444451 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: somac. on September 13, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
From time to time I post comments here from a contact that has some very close ties with high ups in the CCP. For anyone who is interested, Here is something I read from him today. His comment is in response to a recent macrovoices interview regarding China, trade deal, etc. And an article speculating on Chinas purported lack of dollar reserves.

Quote
Listening now and almost fell off my seat laughing at the whole " Trump and Xi kiss and make up to get a trade deal" talk. It is such a western view and coming from someone living in Hong Kong, it is puzzling how he can miss the background for the current niceties...
1. 70th anniversary on Oct 1 is key to Xi. But dropping existing tariffs and removing some key elements from the talks are also import to the Chinese position. Trump may cave, it is always possible, but Xi can't (not won't, can't). A Xi back down now will spell the end for the CCP and expose all the mishandling of issues in the economy and ag sector.
2. I have always said there will be some element of trade, and the timing for the 'trade" concessions by China is amusing because based on USDA data I saw, a large harvest is underway with out any markets to take a large percentage of the crop output. So, if true, China won't be paying nosebleed levels for ag goods because the US needs a market. On the pork side, pay attention to the US export data (10,000 ton pork exports to China last month) not the Trump tweets. Most of these exports are from Smithfields (Chinese owned) and in carcase form not processed which means it is actually costing jobs in the sector in the US.

This is significant info IMHO. Hard facts and numbers do hit eventually. Tweet or print as much as you may.



2303. Post 52445502 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: psycodad on September 13, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
Observing @~10300 since what feels like years I start to feel like this:


Don't poke her FFS!!  Embarrassed



2304. Post 52449116 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 14, 2019, 03:48:03 AM
Or maybe no one will EVER understand what the fuck bitcoin actually is.

Right, like that's really a private key underneath that scratcher?  Pretty fucking lazy scam if you ask me.
I would trust such a card after 6 mere confirmations. Basically , it clears after one statistical hour, and it only does once. Good for people with some gentleman time on their hands.



2305. Post 52449140 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Gashes or cleavage?
Unrelatedly staring
at a fissured wall

#haiku



2306. Post 52452335 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 14, 2019, 11:34:56 AM
Good afternoon gentlemen!

Observing sideways price action from my favourite place (fillipone - look, the correct WO sign).


Practice makes perfect!

Practice is more effective with some backgrounds than with others.
LFC's solid choice of backgrounds appears to ensure very effective learning.



2307. Post 52474420 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Bart with no debart
Sunday in the countryside
didn't post haiku



2308. Post 52474577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Hello Tera, how you doin'? You aren't forgotten here, see?
Nice to hear your contrarian voice again.



2309. Post 52476201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2019, 09:39:43 PM
Quick update on my bank situation. They booted me.

No real reason given. They demanded insight into my bitcoin transactions, I told them they get nothing bitcoin related, done.

This happened a mere few days before I'm going on a global tour, starting with asia, then eastern europe and finally south america. No big. I can buy plane tickets directly with btc, my only bills are my cellie which my family can handle from their accounts, there is the occasional btc atm around the world... it will be interesting to see how well it works to be bankless.

Presumably they will write you a cheque totalling your account balances so you can cash it when you get a new bank?

Asking for future reference.
For the moment I have simply moved my money to a family account. I don't intend to actually use that account for anything more than simply storing my money, but it is there as an extra emergency backup if needed. This is ideally a temporary measure. I have not looked for a new bank and do not intend to.
Merited for cutting edge reporting. And, what if they go after your familly account because "it did receive the btc-tainted kroner, ha!" - how likely do you reckon such an event is?

Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2019, 10:02:45 PM
Hey speaking of, the entire west is heading towards communism.

In germany a baker was faced with a 25k euro fine for having KG instead of kg on the signs in his shop. We are already living under stalinist conditions.

I'd like to hear the facts from two sources. It's not the commies IMO. It's obsessive insistence with The Rulez and the stantarts that neet to be folloft. The Germans are chronically prone to it, as are some other people, each in their own way. There must be a way for a peep to carve himself some slack. I would start to look for any specific reference to minuscule g's in the letter of the law. As for the spirit, typography apart, it's probably meant to ban unconverted pounds or ounces.



2310. Post 52476215 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

peak, lower volume
decay, gently downsloping...
debart? A clear fake.

#haiku



2311. Post 52476366 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Even if I weren't dry, it usually feels kind of wasteful to spend merit on legendary members. However, sometimes...

Quote from: jojo69 on September 17, 2019, 12:12:25 AM
TERA got a lot right, and was shamefully treated for it.

Word. I wasn't the hardest hitting guy, yet still regret doing it.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 17, 2019, 12:08:59 AM
avatar-sized

 


Quote from: Biodom on September 17, 2019, 02:39:26 AM
Wealth disparity is not the worst thing...historical forces that typically remove the disparity are much more disagreeable.
I am reading a book that systematically looked at what reduces inequality..and turns out only major wars and deadly pandemics (plaque in medieval Europe) were able to temporarily reduce inequality.

Quote from: Biodom on September 17, 2019, 03:06:04 AM
No, the disparity does not steadily increase. It increased for a few centuries, correct, then decreased from 1930-1940 (following WWI/WWII combo, separated by just 20 years) until 1975-1980, then steadily increased again until now.
To your second statement: yes, there not many instances where the poor move several strata in one generation.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Leveler-Walter-Scheidel/dp/0691192677/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+great+leveler


Please have WOsMerits instead, gents. +1 each.


Quote from: Ibian on September 16, 2019, 11:29:41 PM
I am done even entertaining anyone on the left. You, and people like you, do not understand human psychology or economics. You are worthless.

If you have an argument then make it. You have as yet not done so. There is no argument to win.
Shht. Not at bed yet? The grown ups are having a quiet talk. Tut tut.

You're good when you stick to the facts happening around you. I, for one, actually appreciated your contribution about the bank - and had to remind myself about the intended use of Smerit before spending my last one on you  Tongue



2312. Post 52485614 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):

Quote from: rdbase on September 17, 2019, 06:27:42 PM
Meanwhile for some crypto watchers out in Vegas baby where duke is from! Cheesy

read the fine print at the bottom if you can save and zoom in to the pic

Can't read it. Care to help?



2313. Post 52490722 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Book club time. I downloaded both Permanent Record (E. Snowden) and Biodom's recommendation The Great Leveler (Walter Scheidel). Still don't know which to crack open first.



2314. Post 52492973 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

^^

To me he sounds a bit like a kid sitting at the same table with the grown ups. I've learned to skip. Ignore could be an option, too, but I like skipping if I'm not catching up.



2315. Post 52494994 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 19, 2019, 01:30:16 AM
There is no way for BTC to get to value in the millions without dollar losing value. As simple as that.


I remember people saying the same thing about $1000


The dollar actually has lost some purchasing power since the time it was worth more than 1 mBTC. Say, it buys 80% of what it did.

Btc gained ~1.5 orders of magnitude - from 400 to 12k, say.

Different dynamics, kind of apples vs oranges.

A million dollar btc is a couple more orders ahead. The dollar could lose another 50% or so. Big Mac at $12-15$?



2316. Post 52495036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 19, 2019, 01:53:28 AM
Even fu**ing lambie has a hat!

:facepalm:

The women of ENIAC

 
 Now you've got one too

edit:



You are an artist. You retort as one for sure.  Tongue

+1 WOsMerit



2317. Post 52497598 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 19, 2019, 05:58:10 AM
Of course, 'pipe bomb' is a pretty specific term of art. I'd be curious to know what the legal definition of such was -- if indeed any evidence referring to such was ever entered into trial. But it apparently was not.

Until someone points me at anything within the trial transcript itself indicating evidence of dealing in pipe bombs, I'm inclined to accept Roger at his word.

As a sidebar, I find it kind of funny how this here crypto community is absorbed by long-past actions of various parties that have absolutely nothing to do with any crypto topic whatsoever.


You missed the bit where the judge says selling bombs to juveniles is a very serious offence.  

Quote
I think that these offenses are very serious. They could have been a lot more serious. The bombs could have gone off or people could have used them in destructive ways. Selling bombs to juveniles is never okay.

While it is true that the judge does not use the word ‘pipe bomb’ in these sentences and only uses the word ‘bomb’, the intent is clear.

This is a typical example of you providing a partial truth in a deliberately misleading manner.
It only took a little wait for Hairy to nail you on that one.

I've seen you play the omission game in several technical discussions already... but defending Ver? Come on.



2318. Post 52497987 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

(As a little OT, I'd like to discuss, you know, like, the price.)

The recent move (a ~500$ dip) looks superficially similar to the slip on September 7th. The volume this time is a little larger, but the post-dip waves are quite smaller, at least for now. Price is absolutely flat on zero volume. Not exactly like Sep 7 actually. The next couple of days are... well you know what they are  Wink

The event hit two of my stops, so I increased my long position significantly. I also bought a little physical corn. This is good.

(Sorry for the OT, guys, but this magical Internet money is a fascinating thing, you know?)



2319. Post 52498019 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: bluebits on September 19, 2019, 10:23:14 AM
if you don't sell you may as well throw the private keys away, there is no difference.

PM when you have to throw your private keys away. I'll dispose of them properly, I swear.



2320. Post 52498652 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 19, 2019, 11:36:20 AM
if you don't sell you may as well throw the private keys away, there is no difference.

PM when you have to throw your private keys away. I'll dispose of them properly, I swear.

Is that true??
Shht... don't distract him please. Let me be bluebit's private key collector! They're useless anyway, we're going to zero. Cool

Quote
What did you do with that BTC I send you from that first game list ..... Smiley
Did you HODL it? (I don’t remember how much it was .25 or .5 at that time right?)
.25, and I am still thankful and amazed at your generosity.
HODLing fast of course. You had a doubt?  Wink



2321. Post 52498667 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: nutildah on September 19, 2019, 11:51:17 AM
(As a little OT, I'd like to discuss, you know, like, the price.)
(zzzzz)
(Sorry for the OT, guys, but this magical Internet money is a fascinating thing, you know?)

You in here, talking about bitcoin price in the WO thread??

My point exactly  Wink



2322. Post 52498733 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

^^ I prefer my gf's lap for that.



2323. Post 52498953 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Llook who the cat brought in!



2324. Post 52499480 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on September 19, 2019, 01:27:42 PM

Where do you find the we.....??
In the place where the gravity is zero 🤪 (It must be centre of the Earth?)

In the place where the gravitational pull from the earth cancels out to zero, there is still gravitational attraction from nearby bodies. We will be attracted and start drifting towards the closest such body.

TL;DR To the moon!



2325. Post 52500373 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

^^ Testing new miners before delivery. A sort of ius primae noctis.



2326. Post 52500834 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Meanwhile, someone reached a special merit level. Maybe theymos could code some trick for merit too?




2327. Post 52501301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 19, 2019, 04:31:57 PM
Smell 10K in the air

I smell a NOCOINER meal tonight @ 19:00 - My Mum’s 60th birthday (Indian restaurant  Roll Eyes).

Pro tip : order lassi too if you are trying spicy food. Thank me later.

not many people like to eat dog in the West you know

Quote from: JSRAW on September 19, 2019, 04:40:44 PM
I know he's joking but I didn't get the joke.  Grin

Sunset Boulevard can be a bitch for bitches.



2328. Post 52503321 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Weekend taking off or what?



2329. Post 52503366 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: jbreher on September 19, 2019, 07:47:41 PM
It only took a little wait for Hairy to nail you on that one.

I've seen you play the omission game in several technical discussions already... but defending Ver? Come on.

Nail? Hardly.

I'm not defending Ver. I'm defending truth.

It hardly seems appropriate to dress as a Defender of the Truth when the Truth so dearly defended is at the very least incomplete.

At least you could have read the whole sentencing before taking a conman at his word.

It's a fact that the judge DID use the expression "pipe bomb" in the official document. Which could suggest there were pipe bombs involved indeed, even if they didn't make it to the proceedings. There could have been deals or other circumstances excluding some witnesses, just to name one possibility.

Hm, sometimes I wonder why do I even argue with you about nontechnical stuff...



2330. Post 52503479 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Dabs on September 19, 2019, 08:42:56 PM
He sounds like a smart man.

He definitely is. And quite civil too. A nice guy to have a conversation with. As long as certain "religious" topics are not touched  Grin



2331. Post 52503568 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



2332. Post 52504278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Trading disclosure. I closed my long as soon as it got in positive territory, consolidated the profits (2%) and took them off the table. Immediately reopened a tentative long a bit lower (and smaller for the time being). No short hedge atm (the long is too small as it is), but I'm tempted.

Thanks, bitcoin.



2333. Post 52506039 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on September 20, 2019, 05:21:29 AM
fillippone with a valiant effort, but no cigar.

Moar:



Bonus clue: later in the day, within a couple hundred meters of the first:


 


The only thing that comes to mind “i’d do her”  Lips sealed

You must have a great mind, my friend.



2334. Post 52508827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 19, 2019, 07:10:19 PM
^oh ho! any impressions? link with transcript for eddie https://stephanlivera.com/episode/107/

I trudged along but stopped halfway. A bit hard to read for the little info it provides. I know something about Casa though, and these guys seem to know what they're doing. Wish there more people like them in the ecosystem.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 20, 2019, 10:46:41 AM
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Top_10_Emerging_Technologies_2019_Report.pdf

no 2 is fap bots which is terrifically funny

no 10 is bitcoin pure and simple, but they don't seem to have cottoned on yet.

Quote
The top 10 emerging technologies for 2019

1. Bioplastics for a Circular Economy
2. Social Robots
3. Tiny Lenses for Miniature Devices
4. Disordered Proteins as Drug Targets
5. Smarter Fertilizers Can Reduce Environmental Contamination
6. Collaborative Telepresence
7. Advanced Food Tracking and Packaging
8. Safer Nuclear Reactors
9. DNA Data Storage
10. Utility-Scale Storage of Renewable Energy
via @avt

This is much more intriguing to read - I guess there's still some use for a competent writer.
Honestly, I went for it because of the fap bot hook you cast  Grin but Pepper isn't suitable for that noble, socially useful application.

As usual, tasty scouting from the master of finders V8.

+1 WOsMerit

(Keeping my one and only for Newbie-Hero peeps.)



2335. Post 52510540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 20, 2019, 04:03:00 PM

So i don't understand options on futures and after an hour researching it I still don't know if I do. I'm gleening that is supposed to add liquiodity so larger players will not become market movers as right now they will effecftively kill liquidity if they participate in the current CMe futures. Is this correct?
Personally I want them to have to push the price up when they take a long and this is just so they can hedge their bets.

On the bright side Bakkt is settled on actual coins and that should really get some mainstream adoption.

Options on futures. A derivative whose underlying is a derivative whose underlying is the btc/usd exchange rate. Hard to grasp. I'm boggled.

I'm betting it's settled in cash, not kind. Maybe this is the key. An instrument to speculate (and exert influence?) on btc/usd without holding a single bitcoin.

Quote
Fuck those CME cunts.

Probably a reasonable summary of your cursory 1-hour analysis.

BTW, thanks for fixing V8 on my behalf  Smiley

EDIT Of course it's settled in usd. It's an option, not a futures contract!



2336. Post 52510556 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: nutildah on September 20, 2019, 04:01:46 PM
WO Game:
Last bit my of summer for Fillippone.

Where I am? Hints of form of clues, not pixel (due to the low information in surrounding pixels), but it’s really easy.



Damn, this is a good one. I spent about an hour looking at different Mediterranean lighthouses.

It's all about wherever this lighthouse is:



My guess its on an island somewhere between Sardinia and Cyprus. Don't know for sure.
Must be Sicily. Go searchers go!  Grin



2337. Post 52510598 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Hueristic on September 20, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
My guess is Salerno, I give up.

Gotta get some stuff done. l8rs all. Smiley

Quote
BTW, thanks for fixing V8 on my behalf  Smiley

nP

A quick look at the map and no, you can't see other continents from there. You can't even see Capri!



2338. Post 52511131 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

I dislike these shakes.



2339. Post 52525041 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Wish I could be there
mythical gentlemens club
Observer meetup


#haiku



2340. Post 52525399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on September 22, 2019, 10:54:28 AM
real application so far we have only thise coins: ETH for usdt, DASH for Venezuela and DOGE for transfer between exchanges

Bitcoin uselessest
of all the useless cryptos
broken record loops


#haiku



2341. Post 52525783 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 20, 2019, 05:31:27 PM
Ah, ok. So it's the merit system that has turned this thread into a soft and fluffy version of itself.

+1 WoSMerit

Fluffy purple heart
I'll draw for you (serious!)
if you merit me


#haiku



2342. Post 52525864 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on September 22, 2019, 11:14:23 AM



How many meals you can buy with this note in the current market value?

Can't buy lots of food
look at the corn and maybe
buy a grain of salt


#haiku



2343. Post 52526298 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 21, 2019, 01:43:41 AM
blah blah bitcoin blah blah cavemen mic jj blah blah

-heavy edits-  Wink

Cavemen IQ folks
no give many ratt's asses
while coin go UP, grunt

+1 WoSMerit

realr0ach needs more love
I'm not good at cutey pics
JJ, do something!

#haiku



2344. Post 52527018 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: nutildah on September 22, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
Procrastination
Just thinking up a haiku
Instead of working

Fed up of working
nutildah writes four haikus
this one is the best


+1 WOsMerit

#haiku



2345. Post 52527398 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 22, 2019, 12:33:57 PM
Ah, ok. So it's the merit system that has turned this thread into a soft and fluffy version of itself.

+1 WoSMerit

Fluffy purple heart
I'll draw for you (serious!)
if you merit me


#haiku
whore





2346. Post 52528718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: JSRAW on September 21, 2019, 06:15:56 AM

-snip-
  • I didn’t use my hand to write it. I am called Italian stallion for a reason 
VB1001 already won  Cry , . nice feet writing - No Foot fetishism-  Grin

Italian stallion
never said he used his feet
other appendage?



#haiku



2347. Post 52528794 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: 600watt on September 22, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
* There is a fear in the market that Bitcoin will collapse after Bakkt release like it collapsed after the CME and CBOE.  If we all find that Bitcoin does not collapse this week, this may lead to a relief rally.

Next week is likely to be punctuated by shenanigans and big moves. I remain overall bullish but also short term cautious.  We should expect to break out of the pennant in both directions before finally deciding which way we will go.  


great post, sounds all plausible. regarding the highlighted part it could be argued that not the entire market is in fear. lots of people actually expect the price to go up when bakkt launches. imho, if prices does not make a noticeable pull upwards then panic will set in and price tanks. expecting a darth maul daily candle monday.

CME futures
they are not settled in kind
this time is different



#haiku



2348. Post 52529323 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: mindrust on September 22, 2019, 05:50:11 PM
Haven't BAKKT already purchased its coins? What good is it gonna do tomorrow if they already gathered their stash? Don't you think the pump from $4-6k to $14k were the BAKKT pump?

I've seen they gathered around 10k coins (if that was really the BAKKT wallet I've seen), they are going to use those coins to sell their customers. They aren't going to buy any new coins unless they run out of those 10k coins. What am I missing?

There's profit and loss
for traders trading futures
all paid in bitcoin


EDIT

The regulations!
Must keep reserves untouched
please buy more bitcoin

#haiku



2349. Post 52529773 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Elwar on September 20, 2019, 10:46:32 PM
Talking about the military -snip-
but there is one boat I would like to own, and that's the CB 90.
I like to think of it like the Lambo of boats.
Here working with the dutch in Operation Atalanta (The anti pirate thing outside Somalia).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdDgEXO2gE

want

+1 WOsMerit

Lamboat for Elwar
try to catch him, uniforms
we've got ironsides



#haiku



2350. Post 52530774 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

I'm getting weary
posting nothing but haikus
orthodox Sunday


#haiku



2351. Post 52530822 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 22, 2019, 08:03:33 PM
London and Oxford
Awesome personalities
W O first meet up


Secret club indeed
In need for expansion though
On to the next one


#Haiku attempt


The second haiku
has correct syllable count
(W O counts 3)




2352. Post 52534540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

"WO turned into a fluffy version of itself."
I must admit - Fatman is spot on.
But if the Hats like it fluffy, fluffy it is (for now).
I tried to whorelure him with a lousy stock purple heart, but it didn't work.
He could have gained a custom handmade item though.

Mandatory observation - 9915 and going down sideways. A time for loading.
I did open a half assed hedging short eventually, but it's too small to matter much. I'm more than a little wary of pushing it now.
Already set a stop at the edge of the green area, however, so if she raises her head suddenly, I'll scrap a few sats anyway.



2353. Post 52534588 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 23, 2019, 11:02:37 AM
Hey brothers! So now we're waiting till BAKKT runs out of BTC they have in their initial stash? Mmmmkey...  Cool

We're waiting for someone to incur a loss. They'll have to pay up in btc.

We're waiting for someone to make some profit. They will be paid up in btc. The clearinghouse will need to reinstate their stash to minimum regulatory amounts. Which we don't know, but still.

The significant new feature of Bakkt IMO is not that it is "backed" - in theory, this is true  (one way or another) for all legit derivative trading shops.

The main new feature of Bakkt is settlement in kind. You need btc to have a position there. Your fiat won't cut it.



2354. Post 52536652 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 23, 2019, 02:50:17 PM
10k BTC.

A lot.

28 are taken by the time. C'mon, this ain't nothing...  Roll Eyes

33BTC  reported now. Compared to the 10k and some traders' expectations this is less than nothing (figure of speech)

Edit: 34 indeed. Do the orders start moving or is it just wishful thinking?

I'm not expecting a queue of customers, but let's give it some time. Institutional investors aren't the quickest to come around, and they usually only have business in, well, business hours. IF it's institutional investors actually.



2355. Post 52536667 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

The shakes are getting smaller and shorter, as if replicating the overall flag/pennant structure fractally on smaller timescales.

@nutildah, I asked for that methadone thingy, but they told me I must give up the WOT instead. Think I'll disregard.



2356. Post 52537500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 23, 2019, 04:25:03 PM
we need some Kwuckduck up in here

Cause the singing llama already made his number.



2357. Post 52537889 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: ulrich_zh on September 23, 2019, 05:06:33 PM

So when moon guys?
Soonish(TM). Ready your ramen rations.



2358. Post 52537922 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 23, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
Below 137 MA daily



I am looking for a downward break of the pennant to scare the sheep

I am waiting for a downward break to cash out my safety short  Cool



2359. Post 52539928 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

I'm not shitting my pants yet. On the contrary, I made a few sats with a part of the short (grown a little in the meantime).
Meanwhile, pushing my long a bit and planning to buy some more physical bitcoin.

On the other hand, I would really shit my pants if were to reach 3k territory. And I would buy like there's no tomorrow, still wearing soiled pants.

The strongest hands win.



2360. Post 52543184 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 24, 2019, 09:51:13 AM


r0ach already provided me this one Cheesy

I hope you don’t have to continue working at McD’s mic. Maybe you are due a pay rise now though?

The pic from r0ach is a fake.
I'm sure mic doesn't have en ethereum tattoo. Or ripple, FFS...



2361. Post 52543229 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: camaund on September 24, 2019, 10:00:19 AM
We always enjoy some hopium, but for sure I will sell some if we go 20k again, maybe 10% but this is only because I expect a strong resistance there and wait to buy more once a correction happens. Long term im Bullish AF, but its always good to accumulate more if possible.

Many will sell at 20k. It will be a hard nut to crack IMO.



2362. Post 52545494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Hail to the Mayor!
I hope we see you more often around here.
And that thing with our pants... it's long forgotten now, doesn't matter anymore.



2363. Post 52547112 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 24, 2019, 04:00:12 PM
Bahahaha

That sideways shit was getting on my nerves a bit.  Much more relaxed now that we have broken downwards.  Need to shake the tree.  

Bring it on.  

At what point would you break into your reserve fiat? I’ve got a good amount of dirty fiat locked away but never had the balls to go all in on it. I think if we hit something ridiculous like $5,000 I’d have no choice but to.
I'd throw half of my stinky fiat at it @5k, just so I don't feel betrayed if she wants to take one more refreshing dive.



2364. Post 52547215 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: toknormal on September 24, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
...$1,800 are within realms of reason remain quite fantasylandia scenarios, and you have not been out of breadths when engaging in fantasylandia practice, especially given your track record of stupid-ass overly bearish BTC predictions (that did not come to fruition, need I say?).

With the amount you wrote there I must conclude it's yourself you're trying to convince, not me.

You've been away too long, toknormal, if you think what JJG wrote here is any significant amount.



2365. Post 52547600 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: kurious on September 24, 2019, 06:14:27 PM
Bahahaha

That sideways shit was getting on my nerves a bit.  Much more relaxed now that we have broken downwards.  Need to shake the tree.  

Bring it on.  

At what point would you break into your reserve fiat? I’ve got a good amount of dirty fiat locked away but never had the balls to go all in on it. I think if we hit something ridiculous like $5,000 I’d have no choice but to.
I'd throw half of my stinky fiat at it @5k, just so I don't feel betrayed if she wants to take one more refreshing dive.

Guys - you aren't going to break open the piggy bank for a $5K buy.  Because it isn't going to happen.  This necessary dip will end well. It's the end of an overheating and consolidation period and the wind will change.  

Just chill, listen to Hairy - and grab any cheap coins you can while you still can.  
I even doubt the price will go much under 9k, if at all!
I already bought a little physical, pushing my DCA routine a bit beyond what's usual.
But I like to be prepared for UP and DOWN - always. Even if she goes berserk with bottom scraping.

Oh my, she did go under 9k after all!



2366. Post 52547714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Some volatility at last Smiley
And Bakkt does seem to have a role carved out for themselves.
All is going well, folks.
Relax, enjoy the ride and fill your bags!



2367. Post 52547830 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

A little short goes a long way to make a peep feel better on days like this.

Stops are for pussies. Be a pussy when you short the corn.



2368. Post 52547916 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

^^ Fuck off newb.



2369. Post 52548055 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

I think the bears are out of ammo right now. So I tentatively ask...

WHO SOLD THE BOTTOM?



2370. Post 52548143 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

It must've been the Mayor.



2371. Post 52548183 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: fillippone on September 24, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
BAKKT OCT 19 is now at 159 BTC:
https://www.theice.com/products/72035464/Bakkt-Bitcoin-USD-Monthly-Futures-Contract/data?marketId=6137541

What would have happened if its launch were as successful as CME futures? (75x volumes on first day?)

Don't worry guys, a little bit of price manipulations trying to squeeze some weakhand out of the game.


Just 2 more in these few minutes (161). Last price 9180??  Shocked I must be missing something...

EDIT Aha, found out. I was looking at the NOV contract price, not OCT.



2372. Post 52548196 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 24, 2019, 08:10:07 PM
The same thing happened when launching CME and CBOE.

Yeah indeed, hairymaclairy has given a very nice thesis over it....

In other words: let's wait for the expiry date of the monthly contract Wink



2373. Post 52548660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Everyone getting short on mex. Funding on the swap predicted at negative max for next 8 hour period. Let the positions grow a little, and the tree will be shaken again. Up, this time.



2374. Post 52548730 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

I called the (local) bottom. Proud  Cool


(Nighty-night, Used-to-be-hairy.)


EDIT it's more like I issued the customary "who sold the bottom?" actually. It is an honor indeed.



2375. Post 52549623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

You may find yourself
in a beautiful house
with a beautiful wife
and you may thank yourself
it's good to hodl



2376. Post 52554263 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Tiring life scalping shorts. Feels like the bear season we had some time ago. Good things are going to turn after the halving at the latest. But what can a man do when his long is hiding in pain?



2377. Post 52554283 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 25, 2019, 02:08:45 PM

Ibian on ignore

Fatman ignoring
Making himself a safe space
Like a scared snowflake


EDIT: that's my late Sunday haiku

Wow, the scared snowflake image.
Not necessarily implying it's realistic (I don't think thick skinned Fatman is scared at all), but it sure is poetic.



2378. Post 52555821 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: serveria.com on September 25, 2019, 04:49:14 PM
Any opinions about this theory regarding a whale dumping 1.2million btc yesterday to crash the market?

https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-price-plunge-came-from-1-2b-sell-data-says-amid-hashrate-row/

Looks legit  Cool

They gotta tell us the addresses or it didn't happen.

Which exchange? Did that exchange actually lead the dump? Are the 1.2 million all sold already? So we gotta work hard to buy back all them cheep coinz.

Yeah, legit for sure Cool



2379. Post 52555847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 25, 2019, 05:01:44 PM
hey
JJG
ltc
pump
therefore
....

...dee little tail dont wag no biggie doggie?

C'mon man, JJG hardly needs any tickling.  You're being nasty on purpose.




2380. Post 52556434 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

A choir of fuckoffs won't get us rid of this pest, I'm afraid.



2381. Post 52557301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Leaps and bounds, leaps and bounds.
EDIT Observing 8476
Volume puny though.



2382. Post 52558292 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 25, 2019, 09:54:41 PM
Years ago, a “technical” decision was made by a core gcc developer named Drepper to break static linking. This means that no useful binaries can ever execute on Linux without dynamically linking to certain libraries making the proposition of distributing signed binaries futile, making the proposition of secure software futile, making the proposition of Bitcoin futile, making the proposition of sound money futile, making the proposition of free trade futile.
Trilema style ranting. Very little sense and much presupposition. You do like that stuff don't you?
He could at least try to explain how this Drepper broke static linking, or define a useful binary.



2383. Post 52560929 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 26, 2019, 08:56:31 AM
You do like that stuff don't you?
Do I? What stuff?

Learned rants dripping smugness and enygmatic enough to stay safely meaningless for the general public  Cheesy



2384. Post 52561253 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: Globb0 on September 26, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Bargain alert - https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/timed-auction/listings/lot?salecode=192398&listingid=d95e4df2-00f9-45c1-833a-937f0edae9a0&bundleoverview=false

The UK government is auctioning some crypto they nicked off someone who nicked it.

If you wish to pay £99 for 0.1 BSV instead of £68 for a whole one, and who doesn't? this could be your only chance this year.

Lol, its at  £466, the idiots don't know they are not bidding on real bitcoin.

The paper this morning said it was bitcoin
I wonder what paper that is. Clueless journalists or shitcoin shills?  Grin



2385. Post 52563321 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Springy support spotted around 8300...



2386. Post 52564607 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

F*** spongy supports.



2387. Post 52574621 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Going to buy some more physical soon... trying to cheat a little on my erratic DCA routine  Cool



2388. Post 52589005 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: makrospex on September 28, 2019, 06:40:06 PM
There appears to be a bundle of evidence pointing to the fact that psychiatric drugs shorten life-span generally. Also and more specifically, neuroleptic malignant syndrome caused by antipsychotics, serotonin syndrome caused by antidepressants, etc., can be fatal. I'm guessing then that the deaths caused by mental illness can be attributed to the medications mentally ill people sometimes take. Side effects, if you will.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/science-isnt-golden/201109/full-disclosure-needed-about-psychiatric-drugs-shorten-life


Antidepressants are evil. I watched 2 of my family members slip away mentally years before the body finally succumbed, all under doctors orders. One got so bad that they started crying at stop lights because the anticipation of waiting for it to turn green was too much. Won't take any pills myself or seek doctor's advice unless its critical.  Its astonishing how many Americans use these things.  The zombie apocalypse is real.

After a traumatic event i was suffering from depression and anxiety, got SSRI prescribed, took them for 10 months (half dose) and reduced slowly for half a year. Every little step down was a two weeks lasting nightmare. I replaced the SSRI slowly with st. johns wort extract, reduced that for another 2 years. All the three years was hard mental work, but i got finally rid of depression and anxiety. I'd never take these pills longer than i really need to.
Doctors plan was to take them for a lifetime. Only for the best of me, i'm sure...  Roll Eyes

Humor, experience, sharing of painful personal stories. OT as the subject is, I'd merit at least jojo69, gentlemand, BlindMayorBitcorn, and BobLawLaw besides makrospex. Don't have enough for everybody, so I'm picking the one who can use it the most: makrospex.

To the other participant gentlemen, here you are. Please have +1 WOsMerit. Thank you.



2389. Post 52589038 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 29, 2019, 12:11:49 AM
Shaping up nicely for debart.  C’mon badger you can do it.



What if it's just a sweep at short stops before a deeper dive?



2390. Post 52599131 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Sane Arriemoller
haku'ed Fatman agape
Sunday's not over



2391. Post 52605449 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: vapourminer on September 30, 2019, 01:25:06 PM

oooooh a new club!

i want in too

Just a few haikus...
Fatman gets triggered, ignores!
I founded the club.



#haiku



2392. Post 52609770 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Wow Arrie, you really got mad at that fat guy. He doesn't seem to be terribly bright. Not worth the anger if you ask me. I did like your poetic impetus though!  Grin



2393. Post 52609780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 30, 2019, 11:26:14 PM
The Possible Bakkt Effect has been disappointing for many ... There is still a long way to go, there are many events that can happen.

CME launched at the height of the frenzy. They also deal in dollars which will be way more attractive to the people likely to sign up.

I hope Bakkt have the gumption to keep going until it does pay off. Many places give up before then whereas if they'd stuck around for a few more months they would've have money pouring out their arses.

Circle are good at that.

This.

+1 WOsMerit



2394. Post 52609963 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 30, 2019, 11:48:31 PM
Are we ready for some dildos?
As long as they're of the right color.



2395. Post 52613015 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 01, 2019, 02:14:17 AM
This dildo won’t hurt a bit
As long as we don't stick it where it does.

IOW: we have seen a few short liqs already (thanks Bawb), and a few more may come along.



2396. Post 52613186 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 01, 2019, 02:28:24 AM
ASSEMBLE THE AARMYYYY!

We are taking 200DMA back from the BEARS!
so don't stop now.

My orders sitting around 8420 (because reasons) and didn't get filled yet.

200DMA @8441
I hope you are ready to short shiteboy.  Don’t let us down now.

Whiteboy420's BTC shorting orders should have filled.  That is if he is actually putting his money where his BIG mouth is, as many WO regulars would likely doubt to be the case, since most troll/shill nocoiner bitcoin naysayers fail/refuse to put their money where their frequently too BIG for their britches mouthes are.
Disclosure: I have a short open too, as a hedge. At the moment it's about half the size of my still painful long, and with patient scalping and rebuilding it has already paid me about 25% of the suffering. I will let it go if I can close it in the green (which is still totally possible), or when my stop hits - that is, when the long position's loss gets about half of what it is.

There are attitude differences between shills/nocoiners and me, though.

- I just do it when/because I feel I need to, so that I can reduce losses incurred or improve profits made on the long side. I am always fundamentally long, because I think it's just a matter of time until it eventually pays out.

- I am wary of shorting the corn. It's bad karma, and her cruelty to shorters can be wanton. Well, to longers too occasionally.

- I feel a tingle of shame when I reveal my short positions here  Roll Eyes



2397. Post 52613226 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: JSRAW on October 01, 2019, 08:42:53 AM
He (Ed: r0ach) recently find out that his birth certificate is an apology letter from Condom Company  Tongue

You made me laugh  Grin
You deserved my next to last merit!



2398. Post 52613392 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 01, 2019, 09:20:38 AM
as long your #HODL positions are larger than your short positions I would say it's just greed and not blasphemy.

Grin

My shorts sometimes overpower my longs indeed, but it's just greedy (rational) gameplay.

The whole of my play money is only a small fraction of my HODL stash anyway. I don't gamble with my future Smiley



2399. Post 52613423 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 01, 2019, 09:24:45 AM
Ps: How do i get a Profile picture ?

You get to full member (120 activity, 100 merit).

To get a hat, on the other hand...  Tongue



2400. Post 52613926 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: legendster on October 01, 2019, 09:43:15 AM
For your longs to be healthy, you must have had them open since the 3k levels earlier this year. Is that so?

I don't get it. I'd say all it takes for a long to be healthy is having been open below the current price, but maybe it's just me.



2401. Post 52619822 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 01, 2019, 11:36:38 AM
Is the easiest way to gain merit really just posting Moonboy content ?

Maybe i should make a second acc.

Quality moonboy content is rewarded here, indeed - but it must have a sparkle of originality, or some humor, or something else to stand above the huge moonboy crowd that gathers around here.

Quality contrarian material can be rewarded too, if it's thought out and presented well. It's a tougher route, though.

You don't need a second account if you adhere to the above directives.

I promise you a merit for a good post - something worth reading, that gets me to think or makes me see something new. I mean a contrarian post.

Good luck.



2402. Post 52619863 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 01, 2019, 11:38:44 AM

We move in weekly now, so a short here might still be a good play.

Would be surprised if we don't see sub $7k before we go up.


Edit:

and I thought I was an asshole

Don't worry. You are.


Fuck you fatty!

 I think you're onto something here Arriemoller.

We already have Thursday set aside for JJG appreciation day but Tuesday is wide open.   We could designate Tuesdays as "Fuck you Fatty Tuesday" and have our own weekly Mardi Gras with beads 'n shit.
Alternatively, we could designate Fridays as "Fuck You Fatty Friday" for the alliteration since that rolls of the tongue nicely.
FWIW, I vote for Friday, for the phonetic reasons you so well explained.

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Whatever happens, we should probably get infofront to change the OP again to reflect the new special days.  I would hate to think of what might happen if a newbie were to happen upon this thread and become confused and as we know, Fatman3001 is quite anal about accuracy in attribution while quoting others (when convenient).  Make sure you spell his name right infofront!  It has two tees.
Nott his name tthough - tthe ttwo ttee's are in whatt we give aboutt big blocker rantts (a ratt's ass).




2403. Post 52619951 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 01, 2019, 12:15:40 PM
-snip-
Halving is EXTREMELY bullish and the price will start rising before the halving and will go parabolic after the halving.

your certainty makes me uncertain  Grin

If it is a given why is nobody front-running the event ?

Indeed, I think it is happening. The extent of the front-running is of course uncertain. It could be limited to the noticeable accumulation by strong handed hodlers and fresh handed newcomers with a fat bankroll. But tomorrow's money isn't money until it hits your wallet, so the risk incurred by front running or accumulating is real. And what is rewarded by tomorrow's money is exactly today's risk.



2404. Post 52619994 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: LoyceV on October 01, 2019, 12:19:06 PM
At NeuroticFish's request, I made this:

All posts in the Wall Observer thread in the past 1h, 24h and 7d
All posts in the past 1 hour: WallObserver.tk/1h.html (updated every 3 minutes).
All posts in the past 24 hours: WallObserver.tk (updated every 30 minutes).
All posts in the past 7 days: WallObserver.tk/7d.html (updated every 2 hours).

Domain WallObserver.tk expires a year from now, I'll see by then if anyone uses it.
All times are set to Amsterdam time.

Limitations:
Images still go through Bitcointalk's image proxy, and they don't load when there are too many on one page. In Firefox a fix is to go to the URL-bar a few times, and press Enter. Just "Reload" doesn't help.
I'm just leaving it here in case anyone things this is useful Smiley If not, please ignore it.

Thank you Loyce. I think this is a real service to people taking part in the biggest bitcoin conversation there is. Given your inhuman amount of merit, my puny few are better spent with people in need (sublegendaries, mostly). But please have one very valuable

+1 WOsMerit

only awarded in this thread after Toxic2040 mined the first one!



2405. Post 52620296 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: infofront on October 01, 2019, 08:52:59 PM
-snip-
Halving is EXTREMELY bullish and the price will start rising before the halving and will go parabolic after the halving.

your certainty makes me uncertain  Grin

If it is a given why is nobody front-running the event ?

Indeed, I think it is happening. The extent of the front-running is of course uncertain. It could be limited to the noticeable accumulation by strong handed hodlers and fresh handed newcomers with a fat bankroll. But tomorrow's money isn't money until it hits your wallet, so the risk incurred by front running or accumulating is real. And what is rewarded by tomorrow's money is exactly today's risk.

As we're below PlanB's stock to flow model current value, I now question the front-running thesis. It seemed like we were front running for a while there, but maybe it was just "buy the rumor, sell the news" for Libra and Bakkt.
That's a good objection that makes me think. However, embracing it implies believing that the stock to flow model is valid. Which is definitely possible IMHO. The difference between "possible" and "proven" is the difference between a big future reward and a null one... hmm...  Huh  Roll Eyes ... more thinking required



2406. Post 52620364 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 01, 2019, 06:06:22 PM
there is one reason (besides many others) why BTCitcoin will succeed: printing infinite FIAT money to avoid the next recession

While recessions are part of the fiat game by design, aren't they?
I think recessions are part of the economy since the old times - when fiat didn't exist and money was hard (metals). Soft money just made things worse, quicker and more subject to the dishonest whim of central monetary authorities.



2407. Post 52629357 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Masterluc's projected future doesn't sound too bad. I could live with that. He's been falsified several times, but only on short-mid term predictions. His original long term prediction, still in the neighborhood of "valid", has been uncannily accurate in the past.

Live and see, I guess. As usual. Hodl.



2408. Post 52639180 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

The air carries an unpleasant scent... bad dildos coming?



2409. Post 52640299 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: jackbauercsgo on October 03, 2019, 03:43:59 PM
It's common for larger positioned traders to "hedge" their bets with longs and shorts both open simultaneously with stops in place so they catch the dominant trend move.

Some small fish also do this.

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 The problem is whales know this and tend to play games with significant low time frame horizontal support/resis lines.  You'll see explosive moves up or down that end up retracing (like the well known "barts").  These moves end up hitting the stops of both longs/shorts before actually trending up or down.  Options are to set stops much further away, but the potential loss is greater also.
Indeed.

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I'm not a huge fan of the system but then I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either, but the system does pay off with a little caution.

Have my last merit!



2410. Post 52640650 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 03, 2019, 04:09:23 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of the system but then I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either, but the system does pay off with a little caution.

really? may you care to explain, please?

This system can and does pay off. A couple ways it can:

- No need to close both positions at the same time! You could taper the losing one or close it abruptly if you're sure of the trend.

- Different size/different leverage for the two positions.

EDIT As an actual example, I have a long position still suffering. Alive, but not kicking. I opened a short and scalped it down, cashing out little bits and refreshing the short when the price bounced up. So my losses on the long are mitigated. In this case the short is smaller than the long, but it hasn't been like this every time.


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EDIT: this WO thread is a time eater for sure! Damn!  Grin

EDIT2: is rehab possible?
You could sell all your coins, so you'd stop wasting your time here.

Hm, on second though what if you become like r0ach and end up wasting even more time? As as added insult, you'd probably feel very very bad as a noob nocoiner.

Summing up, I have to admit I have no useful rehab suggestions. Sorry.



2411. Post 52640777 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of the system but then I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either, but the system does pay off with a little caution.

really? may you care to explain, please?

This system can and does pay off. A couple ways it can:

- No need to close both positions at the same time! You could taper the losing one or close it abruptly if you're sure of the trend.

- Different size/different leverage for the two positions.


Only way to decide to keep open a position is current Mark to Market, not inception or initial trade level.
 So I humbly disagree on this specific approach.


No need to be humble, since you probably know better than I.

In support of my stance:

- Mark to Market is a worse metric when the asset has strong volatility or is subject to the whim of sentiment. Which is the case for bitcoin.

- I let my long live because she will get back up there eventually! This might not be 100% rational, all right  Grin



2412. Post 52641090 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:02:59 PM
So, because of dickering around with shorts, there is NOT as much profits from when BTC's price finally does go up, but at the same time, profits are made when BTC's price goes down in a much greater way than merely selling a few BTC on the way up and buying back at lower prices.

So your reasoning is the following.
You are long 10 BTC.  You short sell 1.

1)If BTC goes up, you are happy, because you lost on the short bitcoin, but actually you gained.
2) If BTC goes down, you are sad, but at least you can buy back your bitcoin, profit from it and alleviate your suffering.

THe reality is.
a)You are long 10 BTC.
b)You decide to sell 1 bitcoin.
c)You are long 9 bitcoin and some cash.
If BTC goes up, you are happy, because you gained. on those 9 bitcoin. Cash is the same.
If BTC goes down, you are sad, because you are losing on those 9 bitcoin. Then you decide to buy another bitcoin and you are long 10 bitcoin and some (less) cash. You are in a very similar position than point c. but with less cash to spend on more bitcoin buying.

Try to look at it another way:

You are long 10 BTC. You short sell 1.

BTC goes down. You close the short and 10% of your virtual losses on the long are recovered.

Then, EITHER

- BTC goes back up. When it gets back where you started, you still have the (real) profit made on the short.

OR

- BTC goes down some more. You're losing, but you're losing somewhat less. You have more margin - whether you want to risk some more, or you're just glad your liquidation is that little bit further away.

That's how I have used my contrarian positions until today, and I am glad I did.



2413. Post 52641129 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 03, 2019, 05:17:13 PM
I wonder what would happen to the price of Bitcoin once quantum computer technology advances. I suppose quantum miners would plummet the markets to the ground?  

Why would you think that?

I was thinking of a sudden pseudo-inflation of the coin supply caused by unimaginably fast mining capabilities would bring down the price. although, by that point we would probably have only a small amount left to mine so it would not matter, maybe?


The spike in the inflation rate couldn't last beyond the next difficulty adjustment.
It would "just" be the end for all the old (non quantum) miners thrown out of the market overnight.



2414. Post 52641279 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Right, in about two weeks (how long is the average difficulty change interval?) they could break havoc.
IF they manage to pull it off while coins are still being mined  Tongue



2415. Post 52641294 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:32:02 PM
So, because of dickering around with shorts, there is NOT as much profits from when BTC's price finally does go up, but at the same time, profits are made when BTC's price goes down in a much greater way than merely selling a few BTC on the way up and buying back at lower prices.

So your reasoning is the following.
You are long 10 BTC.  You short sell 1.

1)If BTC goes up, you are happy, because you lost on the short bitcoin, but actually you gained.
2) If BTC goes down, you are sad, but at least you can buy back your bitcoin, profit from it and alleviate your suffering.

THe reality is.
a)You are long 10 BTC.
b)You decide to sell 1 bitcoin.
c)You are long 9 bitcoin and some cash.
If BTC goes up, you are happy, because you gained. on those 9 bitcoin. Cash is the same.
If BTC goes down, you are sad, because you are losing on those 9 bitcoin. Then you decide to buy another bitcoin and you are long 10 bitcoin and some (less) cash. You are in a very similar position than point c. but with less cash to spend on more bitcoin buying.

Try to look at it another way:

You are long 10 BTC. You short sell 1.

BTC goes down. You close the short and 10% of your virtual losses on the long are recovered.

Then, EITHER

- BTC goes back up. When it gets back where you started, you still have the (real) profit made on the short.

OR

- BTC goes down some more. You're losing, but you're losing somewhat less. You have more margin - whether you want to risk some more, or you're just glad your liquidation is that little bit further away.

That's how I have used my contrarian positions until today, and I am glad I did.

The only think that is important is that you are long 9 BTC.
That's it, you can look as 10-1 11-2 100-91 or whatever.
 
All the profits and all the losses are real, it doesn't matter if they are realised or unrealised, they are real.
If you bought ATH in Dec 2018, your losses are real, even if you are still hodling.



I see now. If you count unrealized P&L as real, then it's just as you say. I still think it's called UNreal - ized for a reason.



2416. Post 52644281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 03, 2019, 05:12:41 PM
<preface: 6 beers before noon>

Spending American Thanksgiving with his wife and his son, who, for all intents and purposes, will be inheriting a nontrivial fortune upon my passing.

I don't know why I posted this just now.

I think I just really miss my Dutch friend.


It must have been quite a lot easier for your friend to leave knowing his wife and child's asses were covered. Well-off or not might he have been. You were the perfect steward.



2417. Post 52644388 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

-savage snips everywhere-

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 03, 2019, 07:19:30 PM
Another life ruined by Shitcoins. Be careful out there Rebel and good luck with your lawsuit.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/iphone-user-sues-apple-after-20392402

"In a complaint published on Wednesday, Razumilov says he received 69 GayCoins on a cryptocurrency payment app he downloaded onto his iPhone in 2017.

The man has accused Apple of "manipulatively pushing me toward homosexuality", which he says has caused him "moral suffering and harm to mental health"."

Don't know if it's true or fake, but it's too cute not to merit.


Quote from: jbreher on October 03, 2019, 05:41:14 PM
Right, in about two weeks (how long is the average difficulty change interval?) they could break havoc.
IF they manage to pull it off while coins are still being mined

No. Difficulty reset period is 2016 blocks. Which works out to two weeks when the average block interval is exactly 10 minutes.

If some New Technology bursts on the scene that can mine faster then the existing network, those 2016 blocks will be mined much faster than two weeks, at which point the new difficulty will be reset to take this new hash power into account, resetting back to ten-minute block intervals.

Of course you're right. "Damage" is limited to 2016 blocks, not two weeks.

You are an asset on certain occasions (when we're far from religion).

+1 WOsMerit


Quote from: makrospex on October 03, 2019, 07:34:12 PM

Death is natural. You must accept it and move on to other things in life.

Yes, if we were machines.
But death also defines life, so it's very important. You must accept the true feelings it brings up in you and then move on to other things in life afterwards. No feelings, no life, mate.

If we were machines
But death also defines life
No feelings, no life

+1 WOsMerit

I owe you one. Lambie snatched it first.




2418. Post 52644818 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

We make different assumptions.

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 03, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
bid price is 8200
ask price is 8250
spread is 50

it's kind of break-out system with a range of 500 600 (w/o fees for both positions).
Yes, assuming both legs are closed at the same time (constraint that doesn't apply to me).


@fillippone, as usual your posts are instructive, thought-provoking or both. (That's how you amassed that disgusting mountain of merits in no time.) Even if in an amusing way, I was making a point. It took me a bit to digest your input and articulate a reply, so here I'm back.

Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:56:34 PM
I see now. If you count unrealized P&L as real, then it's just as you say. I still think it's called UNreal - ized for a reason.
Very funny.
Merited.
When I said that unrealized P&L is, well, unreal, I failed to add "until you hit the wall": the wall of nonlinearity at liquidation. If you manage to avoid that wall, you statistically win the game.

I don't have formal training in economy or finance, but the mathematical advantage of playing both sides can be seen by integrating P&L over time along random walks with reasonable properties.  (Perfect absence of memory in the Markov chain sense is not even required. More something like ergodicity in the sense "the graph will eventually get back here, for sure!")


Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:02:59 PM
Even in highly volatile environment Mark To market is the best way to think of your trading position, because MtM has to do with the current price, so it has to do with the future movements.
You assume P&L is instantly real, since current price is the best possible estimate of future price. Which it could be if there were a universal way to price risk and opportunity cost. Which I assume there isn't.

My own assumptions? "I'll never hit that wall because I keep my gameplay far from the sidelines." Taken to extremes: if I had infinite capital, I would not worry a bit. In other words: my bankroll is finite so I do worry of course, but I have low (negative?) opportunity cost for my play stash - it's better for me to use it to get moar btc at good odds than to collect dust in the freezer. As for the risk, I can't quantify it precisely, but it's bounded by the play stash amount if I stick to my rules.


Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:02:59 PM
If BTC goes down, you are sad, because you are losing on those 9 bitcoin. Then you decide to buy another bitcoin and you are long 10 bitcoin and some (less) cash. You are in a very similar position than point c. but with less cash to spend on more bitcoin buying.
Play money has an exclusive set of rules, such as "move excess play money to the cold stash when the amount reaches X", or every 2 months, or some combination that works for me. Another way to see it is: never let fiat enter the equation. Fiat for me is only relevant when I need it, and it comes from the main stash anyway. Once you've put away excess totaling 100% of your play stash, you're playing with house money. Once it's 200%, your risk still doesn't go to 0 (ergodicity hits both ways), but you have one "free" round where you can be wrong about never hitting the wall and still remain in overall profit.


Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 04:36:40 PM
This reasoning could be very different if there were options available to trade. But this is not the case.
I subscribe to your point about options. Most of my games are played with futures or swaps. Swaps are nice for the short side, since in a bull market they usually collect funding interest. I would love to have options available too! They would lower the cost of "insurance" a lot, if settled in kind. At the moment, options involve fiat unless I jump through hoops, so I do the best I can without them.

Numerical disclosure of sorts. Over the last week, I just gained 1% of the play stash with my short position by repeatedly closing it in small profit and reopening it higher. Last trade was 0.2% profit, new entry point just 10$ higher and 8% larger. Present short leg size a little over half the long (which is losing ~8% atm). A few more weeks like this and I will get even. If it goes down, I'm 8% better placed to profit again, while the margin buffer for the long has grown a tiny bit. My liquidation is well below 4k, and if I close the ultra-winning short before that happens, I'll gain about $500-$600 more breathing space, pushing it below 3.5k.

Yes, it is a bit of work actually. So what? A nice little hobby that pays out - an additional way to grow my HODLstash without forgoing, for example, a fancy restaurant or some other cozy reward. And I get to discuss it with some fine gentlemen too, which is a pleasure in itself.

Sorry this was a long post, and terribly OT at that - almost as if this discussion was about bitcoin!



2419. Post 52654929 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Feeling a bit bored
taking the stick to poke her
guess I'd better not



#haiku



2420. Post 52657874 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

She's drifting downwards
we try to figure out why
swear I didn't poke



#haiku



2421. Post 52658091 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Two hat haikus in a row. She must oblige!  Grin



2422. Post 52658289 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

A great writer and an untiring herald of science, Isaac Asimov. But kinkiness never was his strong point.



2423. Post 52659715 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 05, 2019, 12:47:12 PM

Come on you people, these haiku are utter shit, it's got boring now.
 Grin

Nice haiku V8
But you forgot to space all
The three lines apart.

 Cool

Keen haiku spotter!!

+1 WOsMerit

Not promising a boring one, though. I don't want unsustainable (merit) debt.



2424. Post 52659767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: legendster on October 05, 2019, 11:48:20 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/dddalj/either_i_found_a_bug_or_its_lambo_on_the_moon_time/

That feeling when you wake up in the morning and see that Bitcoin has gone much further than to the Moon Grin

That's no moon. That's Mars!

I wonder if we will see such a thing in our life time.


PS: I gave myself a hat. Hope none of you WO's mind.
Of course we won't mind, BUT... official hats are xhomerx brand only. Talk to him, maybe send him an image you like. He's probably willing to help  Wink



2425. Post 52660113 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: legendster on October 05, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
Of course we won't mind, BUT... official hats are xhomerx brand only. Talk to him, maybe send him an image you like. He's probably willing to help  Wink

I like mine to be a little different from what you guys are wearing. So as to not confuse me with some of the originals. Also, as you can see my hat is about an altcoin.

People don't like an altcoiner invade this thread, so if I tried to get an altcoin themed original styled hat, you guys might as well drown me in a dark well.
I don't feel you are invading, as long as you don't start to spread alt gospels among the faithful   Cool

Drown people in dark wells? We never do these nasty things. Now come with me, please, I'm going to show you the restroom in case you need... what? Downstairs? Ah, well yes, the guest bathroom is in the dun... ehm, dunstairs area  Roll Eyes



2426. Post 52661772 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 05, 2019, 03:44:28 PM
A great writer and an untiring herald of science, Isaac Asimov. But kinkiness never was his strong point.

Heinlein on the other hand...fucking freak

I will fear no evil?



2427. Post 52664426 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Neat ~100$ spike up. This smells like stop hunting on the way down. My short got just a tad bigger.



2428. Post 52665178 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 06, 2019, 12:12:57 AM
Neat ~100$ spike up. This smells like stop hunting on the way down. My short got just a tad bigger.


I realize we are talking pocket change here.  But this is a high risk strategy in the October before halvening.

Going short in a secular bull market pays poorly.
It's already green again. I placed a stop so it closes in the green. And I really hope it pays very poorly indeed.

And apart from my cold stash, which is intrinsically long, I've got a margin long about twice as large as this short.



2429. Post 52668179 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Apparently I got lucky with my sophisticated SOMA analysis. I could have made the short even larger - in the same ballpark as (or bigger than) the long - and profit double (or more). Not closing it yet, because my SOMA tools do not provide any timing info on the incoming run up yet.

This does not mean I'm happy.



2430. Post 52674321 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Liking this duet
I'm digging through oldish posts
digesting takes time

Quote from: fillippone on October 04, 2019, 10:45:31 AM

My own assumptions? "I'll never hit that wall because I keep my gameplay far from the sidelines." Taken to extremes: if I had infinite capital, I would not worry a bit.

If we had infinite capital, infinite time we would all be rich.
Capital is finite and time is finite. I don't know if it is better this way, but it surely so much more funny.

You're right fillippone, hence the worry (not without the occasional "fun", I must admit). 100x leverage doesn't make my capital "infinite" unless my position is under 1/100 of my play stash (and even then, nonlinearities and verlakkerijen ensue if said stash is within 2-3 orders of magnitude of the exchange's actual open interest). Nothing will make my time infinite (well, maybe a team in the goossens sense - but then, infinte team turnover becomes a necessity and we don't want to go there, do we). Both "stashes" are finite indeed - and both have hard upper bounds of sorts.

So I see your point, but you must admit my view has merit too.

You earlier said which is the "best" (only, actually) way of thinking.

Quote from: fillippone on October 03, 2019, 05:02:59 PM
If you are trading with linear assets there's no other other way to sum all of your positions and think about only as a SUM. the worst you can think is where you bought some corn and you have to sell it above that level to gain.

  (  TL;DR +10 long, -1 short = +10 - 1 = +9 long  )
It might be the worse way in certain cases, but in my own case it made me real BTC. So where's the catch? Me not considering the positions as summable? If it's that, it's a powerful tool!

Your view is the best under certain assumptions: same instrument, closed at the same time, linear. Under others, (mainly: different time span) it isn't. Which doesn't imply the second view is better. It does become strictly better if you have infinite capital and time, and infinitely better if you also have perfect forward information. The option of removing dough from the table is a big help too, as it allows me to chicken out whenever I fancy. Agreed, it's a derivative play involving manual labor.

Summing up, my numbers say that even with finite resources, the "second" system can be put to work. And I'm pretty sure my own set of rules is not the only one that can produce statistical profit in waters such as those we are sailing atm. Maybe someone is able to formalize this in an orthodox way, or to make more sense somehow. You? Hairy? Marcus? V8? Any others?


#haiku



2431. Post 52674445 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: d_eddie on October 04, 2019, 12:34:38 AM
-snips contrived-
Yes, if we were machines.
But death also defines life
No feelings, no life

I owe you one.

And here it is. I'm clean of debt.



2432. Post 52674483 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: nutildah on October 06, 2019, 04:44:56 PM
after the Craig wright stalling is done, this being a civil case and all, can't he say the so-called trustees have run off
with the keys for the supposed satoshi tulip fund and simply declare bankruptcy?

Thus clearing his situation with the court and the Australian Tax Authorities....for whatever BSV or whatnot he has
managed to scam so far?

Seems to me that is his only out, if as most suspect, he has no 'last man standing' to access the so-called Tulip Fund
of the development coins of bitcoin until Jan 1st, 2020.

Only one problem with this: there isn't a Tulip Trust fund.

Oh, and about this hv_ tool. He is totally delusional and not worth quoting.

You're right. Usually when he's wrong on just 1 count I can let it slip, but being entirely wrong about everything forced me to respond. I would be best to put him on ignore.

And I would merit your post if I could but I am flush out for the moment. So have an honorary +1 WOmerit instead.

I, too, must thank Ross for actually buying the first time. Then I got addicted. No, not to the dangerous drugs.

+1 WOsMerit to Krubster from me too, and a boring one asap.



2433. Post 52674532 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 06, 2019, 04:07:29 PM
Lambie said last time!
No more cheap corn, if his right.
Lets go to 5 dig.


Een uitlje knappen...
struck by lightning on Sunday...
Vegeta been heard?


Damn, that was Flemish...
What would it be in English?
Who's first to tell me.


*In Belgium its a saying*

Wow, 3 in a row
Tasty, and on a Sunday!
Practice makes perfect.

+1 WOsMerit



2434. Post 52674665 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: gentlemand on October 06, 2019, 05:34:58 PM
perhaps he is/was a writer in some capacity?

To cut it as a writer you need a few skills.

An overwhelming barrage of words that causes instant glazing and possible convulsions is not one of them and not conducive to a successful career. Feel free to give it a whirl all the same.

I'd like to meet Uncle D just to hear him say something like that.



2435. Post 52680594 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 07, 2019, 11:37:25 AM
Good memories!

If only I had those too...Those would make my wankbank pretty useless!
I do have some pretty memories, but let me break it to you. Don't trash your wankbank(TM) yet.



2436. Post 52681529 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Short closed with tiny profit. Long still suffering. Wait and see.



2437. Post 52682121 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Bossian on October 07, 2019, 02:08:55 PM


is there enough cash for $50k BTC. I mean, if holders will sell at $50k, can exchanges and all others business pay sellers?
If the supply and demand is real, then yes they should have the funds, if someone sells at 50k, someone else buys at 50k, unless the exchange platforms bring most of the liquidity themselves, but don't have any reliable info about this.
I bet a few exchanges perform arbitrage too. 
"A few"?  Cheesy



2438. Post 52682274 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: becoin on October 07, 2019, 02:22:46 PM
Short closed with tiny profit. Long still suffering. Wait and see.
Holding equal size of both short and long positions at the same time is very stupid indeed. You just pay rollover fees on both sides without any chance to make profit or loss.

What you say sounds true if taken literally and out of context, but I know I consistently gained from this, at varying rates according to market volatility and predictability. I'm not talking about life changing money, or even about a significant multiple of the play stash for each trade. It's several small trades adding up, most of which (an overwhelming ~90+% ballpark) yield nonnegative profit. So how can that be if what you say is correct? The answer, again, is in the underlying assumptions.

1) Not necessarily equal size
2) Not necessarily open at the same time
3) Not closed at the same time
4) Some exchanges award you maker rebates (negative fees) if you are a market maker (use limit orders only).



2439. Post 52683017 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: becoin on October 07, 2019, 03:28:34 PM

What you say sounds true if taken literally and out of context, but I know I consistently gained from this, at varying rates according to market volatility and predictability.

You've gained from this because price moves within range. If price gets on a trend you'll lose twice as much you've gained during the range trading. Holding both short and long positions is very expensive way to purchase adrenaline. Bungee jumping is much cheaper and will get you more adrenaline.

Even if price gets on a trend, it's never a one way march. There are bound to be waves on several time periods.

And I don't do it for the adrenaline. If I could kill the emotion factor altogether, I would. I started doing this as a hedge (to mitigate damage). I turned it into a ladder à la JJG/jbreher, only doubled: one up, one down. Now I don't want to run the negative ladder anymore, so it's morphed back into hedging when she goes down, so I get some relief with my long, which I will hopefully close in profit, or at least with a lesser loss than what I have gained scraping scalps on the short.





2440. Post 52683708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: becoin on October 07, 2019, 03:54:35 PM
I started doing this as a hedge (to mitigate damage).

It is not a hedge and certainly you don't mitigate any damage!

Lets say you hold 5 bitcoins short and 7 bitcoins long positions. I hold 2 bitcoins long position. Price movement in either direction will bring both of us one and the same profit or loss. The only difference between us is that I pay rollover fee for 2 bitcoins while you pay rollover fees for 12 bitcoins.


I see your point. It was made by fillippone just a few days ago. It is valid in certain conditions, but not in others.

Rollover fees depend on the exchange. They could be null. There could be an advantage using limits order (gaining a small fee). There could be funding (interest) paid to those who have open positions on a certain side by those on the opposite side. It all adds up and can be used to our advantage, but it's not an inherent property of this system. That's why I'm keeping these accessory costs or benefits out of the equation.

Maybe it all boils down to whether we consider unrealized P&L as real. I don't: it ain't over until the fat lady sings - that is, until I choose to close a position. Can you see the time factor advantage that is gained? Imagine she goes up and down just as she likes to do. When she goes down I cash out the short (and/or increase the long with a better entry), when she goes up I cash out the long (and/or increase the short with a better entry). Whenever I'm above parity I can choose to end the game and close both positions together, or taper one while the other improves, or whatever my SOMA analysis suggests. I can't do that if I only hold one side.

I've asked for collective help in wrapping up these concepts in a solid framework, but there are no takers yet. All I know is I've managed to nurse a thin stream of income even during bear moves or bear markets. At the moment, I can lose all my play stash and I'll stay in overall profit. Did I just get lucky? It might be, but it's too consistent IMHO. It looks unlikely.




2441. Post 52684021 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

 Sad indeed, my 15k hat feels so uncomfortable... I feel like changing it at times but I'm afraid it will capitulate the price to new lows, so I'm taking one for the team.



2442. Post 52684335 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 07, 2019, 05:23:28 PM
Sad indeed, my 15k hat feels so uncomfortable... I feel like changing it at times but I'm afraid it will capitulate the price to new lows, so I'm taking one for the team.

 Thank you d_eddie!  We appreciate your hard work and dedication.  Stay focused.   Wink

I don't want to get lovey-dovey... but thank you for the fancy hats! I can't wait to see how hard it will be to fit 6 digits in there.  Cool



2443. Post 52684390 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

By the way, what's with the strange 1.14 l format?



2444. Post 52684588 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:03:54 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

d_eddie because of "trading with a hedge"?  Wink

Well, I've just sold something on the way up. Actually closed the short before loss (really tiny profit) and reopened it higher, a little larger. If she keeps going up, I will close it in loss when the long is near or above parity. As long as the long is larger I'm OK. If she gets back down, I'll cash out half of the short and play a little wait and see.



2445. Post 52684633 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:03:54 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

EDIT: btw, I have a 0.2 BTC open short in my books but just in DEMO account. waiting for d_eddie to get the sign if I can close it.  Roll Eyes

Heya brother-in-corn, this responsibility weighs upon my shoulders like a couple lambos! Close it as soon as it goes green. It's a short after all, better never let them go too far... or open a hedging long just in case  Grin



2446. Post 52684684 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 07, 2019, 06:06:56 PM
*incoherent ranting*


Yes.  About a year and a half ago, pretty much Hairy admitted that he was relying on fractal comparisons, and surely I have been vocally critical of such fractal comparison reliances, even though they have largely been playing out - with, of course, some upwards deviation with our 3.5x outburst from April 1 to end of June, and currently what appears to be a return to the mean of the fractal... So whatever the fuck lack of comparison seems to still be working out in a very comparable way.


So, maybe there has never been such a system in the world, but who fucking cares?  It still has worked out quite well in bitcoin for a lot of us BTC HODLers and accumulators to be continuing to become richie and to increase our richness through the fact that BTC prices continue to go up in the longer term.. just like the silly fucking ass fractal comparisons seem to suggest.  Go figure?  

Now you roach, on the other hand, have had some mediocre gold price appreciation during this calendar year (which has gotten you all excited, and even a bit more cocky than usual), and maybe you should be taking advantage of that mediocre gold price appreciation and getting into a real future asset.. ie bitcoin?  dumb ass.

There is no TA comparison in legacy financial markets because there is no comparable asset in legacy financial markets.

There is no financial instrument with fixed supply to be paid out over a century where the rate of supply halves every four years as regular as the Olympics.  It is this regular drum beat that causes us to pound out the same patterns.  Yes the drum beat will get weaker over time as inflation falls away, but it is strong now and will remain strong through this halvening and likely the next.

I have spoken to investment bankers at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan who do TA on Bitcoin and in their arrogance they have never heard of the halvening.   So they can’t plan for it and they can’t front run it.   Even among retail investors, most of whom are focused on chasing shitcoins, they have no understanding of how the entire market is run by the drum beat of Daddy Bitcoin.

We sit in a privileged position because we live and breathe this every day.  But don’t make the mistake of extrapolating our knowledge and experience to the broader market.  

It's probably the last sMerit I can award to non-legendary Hairy. It's good to maintain some perspective while we live in this highly informed echo box.



2447. Post 52684796 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:18:01 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

d_eddie because of "trading with a hedge"?  Wink

Well, I've just sold something on the way up. Actually closed the short before loss (really tiny profit) and reopened it higher, a little larger. If she keeps going up, I will close it in loss when the long is near or above parity. As long as the long is larger I'm OK. If she gets back down, I'll cash out half of the short and play a little wait and see.

sounds like plan. i guess your system is much nondeterministic.

Uh ehm, the system saw the light after a... uh... how can I explain... a dream where I saw mammoths in the charts, stampeding on us poor hodlers. It was around the time when most of us agreed we were in bear territory, long before we started talking about capitulation, which became the rage only later. I opened a short, staking most of my play money (which current me, more seasoned and detached, wouldn't do). I cashed it out a little at a time, reconstructing it at every bounce. I doubled my play money (100% btc, no fiat) in a few months, like 4-6. So the system is solidly rooted in pure SOMA practice.

It does require work and planning ahead - planning for both directions! I try to make my plans on a cool head, with no positions open, and mostly stick to them, with occasional tweaks inspired by sentiment, whim, suggestions and of course fresh SOMA results.



2448. Post 52684819 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:24:28 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

EDIT: btw, I have a 0.2 BTC open short in my books but just in DEMO account. waiting for d_eddie to get the sign if I can close it.  Roll Eyes

Heya brother-in-corn, this responsibility weighs upon my shoulders like a couple lambos! Close it as soon as it goes green. It's a short after all, better never let them go too far... or open a hedging long just in case  Grin

it's hedged already with a long. the long is 260.2 points in green and the short is 488.7 points in red. I've borrowed the casino chips from my grandma and have to pay her back after Christmas. what should I do Buddy?

 Grin

Kill your grandma!

(Wheew, that was easy.)



2449. Post 52684951 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:24:28 PM
Who sold at the bottom?

EDIT: btw, I have a 0.2 BTC open short in my books but just in DEMO account. waiting for d_eddie to get the sign if I can close it.  Roll Eyes

Heya brother-in-corn, this responsibility weighs upon my shoulders like a couple lambos! Close it as soon as it goes green. It's a short after all, better never let them go too far... or open a hedging long just in case  Grin

it's hedged already with a long. the long is 260.2 points in green and the short is 488.7 points in red. I've borrowed the casino chips from my grandma and have to pay her back after Christmas. what should I do Buddy?

 Grin

If you don't like the idea of having to cut up your grandma and chuck her somewhere after the deed is done, you could try different approaches that only involve trading.

We need more info: the relative size of the 2 sides is the most important. Entry points not that much (their effects near/far from entry also depend on the detailed structure of the relevant derivative(s)).

If they were open at the same time, it would mean the short is ~1.9 times as large as the long. So each step up pays you 1 and costs you 1.9. A simple chicken-out strategy is: try to make the positions equal as much as you can, exploiting any "discount" (that is, dips if it's the short you're trying to reduce). Once they're equal, you are more or less insensitive to price variation because, as many have pointed out, it's equivalent to being flat (IF after that point, you close them together!). When you're there, you can assess your realized P&L and either close the game (no-brainer if you're green overall) or keep it going.

This is what I'd do, at least - but most importantly, I would try not to find myself with the short larger than the long in an uptrend! That's what planning ahead is about.



2450. Post 52685018 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
great! it sounds like a not so easy system for real pros. but what the hell do you mean with SOMA. I just asked before but probably you didn't read it.

Sorry Gyrsur, didn't notice. It's an inside game for WO-ers...

Straight Outta My Ass.

Meaning, I'm not that good at TA - mainly because I don't put a lot of faith in it.  I do have hunches, but they're wrong half of the time. So I plan for both scenarios. If I smell storms, I chicken out. When I think there's a decent chance to make a little profit one way or another, I put my big toe in the water. If it feels OK, I get knee deep. And so on. I never denied it does take a little work. What matters with me is that I can do it with a cool, detached head, without impulse "recovery" trades that would drag me in the abyss. Admittedly, cool comes easier once you manage to sit on a profit buffer AND you only stake all games with the same fixed amount, stashing away the excess into cold storage, with some sensible schedule you find works for you.



2451. Post 52685139 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:48:26 PM
so $8254.3 in my chart was a high. it goes down a bit now. I should have closed the long. but to late.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: I'm not good in discretionary approaches really. I need simple rules which I can write into code and then let the machine trade and just observing and improving.

Decisions such as these can't be coded into a bot. Or if they can, I have no clue. Or maybe I have a clue but just can't spill the beans for obvious reasons  Tongue

What you can do is program a bot to set up complex conditional orders - which can be a real help as long as your connection to the exchange is steady, which in turn isn't a safe assumption with all the verlakkerij that's going on.

A few examples of complex conditional order:

- if the long suffers more than 10% from here, cash out 20% of the short

- if she goes down >100$, increase the long a bit and tighten its stop loss by 15$ while cashing out the btc equivalent of 200$ from the short (maybe to finance the increased long and keep your staked margin in check)

- if after going down >150$ (but <300$), she heads back up, cancel these 3 orders I put there in case of disaster




2452. Post 52685190 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 07, 2019, 07:07:53 PM
thanks Eddie! and I'm unfortunately out of sMerit. you deserves some!

I got you!

Thanks to both Smiley

@Dabs, this feels like home doesn't it?



2453. Post 52685241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 06:48:26 PM
so $8254.3 in my chart was a high. it goes down a bit now. I should have closed the long. but to late.  Roll Eyes

I don't know the numbers, and each one of us is different, but I'd keep the long open if the entry point is within the current range. With shorts I'm much more draconian. In the mean time, cash out part of the short! If you manage to make them equal you're net green and you can wrap it up if you feel unsure.




2454. Post 52685281 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 07, 2019, 07:18:40 PM
so $8254.3 in my chart was a high. it goes down a bit now. I should have closed the long. but to late.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: I'm not good in discretionary approaches really. I need simple rules which I can write into code and then let the machine trade and just observing and improving.

A few examples of complex conditional order:

- if the long suffers more than 10% from here, cash out 20% of the short

-snip-

yeah Eddie! this sound like a start on very complex framework as you mentioned it to fillippone. i really wondering that you're able to manage all the positions just with the help of your mind and without a computer. this is really a task for a machine. it can handle it without errors if well coded.

I was actually just making it up. These are the thought processes I follow while I trade double positions, but it sounds harder than it is, and I can't actually manage do do it all in reality. This is a hobby, I have a life. It's all very SOMA. I use no bot yet. I make do with a simple calculator and an excel sheet for more complicated calculations: averages (trickier than it seems with inverse derivatives) and projections ("what if she goes up $300?" "what if she plummets $400?")



2455. Post 52686476 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Dabs on October 07, 2019, 07:24:41 PM
@Dabs, this feels like home doesn't it?

For a good ... almost entire year (maybe even 2 or 3) ... this is where I lurk and post, while doing other stuff in other threads unrelated and just minding my own business ... whatever sig I have doesn't even count in this particular thread ... then try to do one small act of kindness to some random newbie who probably has no clue what a merit is and people think I'm abusing merit.

It's scary out there. I seldom dare to tread.



2456. Post 52686576 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Biodom on October 07, 2019, 10:19:13 PM
-snip-

I have spoken to investment bankers at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan who do TA on Bitcoin and in their arrogance they have never heard of the halvening.   So they can’t plan for it and they can’t front run it.   Even among retail investors, most of whom are focused on chasing shitcoins, they have no understanding of how the entire market is run by the drum beat of Daddy Bitcoin.

We sit in a privileged position because we live and breathe this every day.  But don’t make the mistake of extrapolating our knowledge and experience to the broader market.  


I agree that we have halving knowledge, but here comes the test...
If this time around halving and S/F extension to above 50 (closer to gold) would produce 55K-90K prices (conservatively), THEN our position was truly privileged. If not, then it is still mostly random fluctuation. I hope for the former and I am keenly aware of the latter.

Most of you were probably not around the Internet bubble 1. In 1997-2000 it was simply great.
-snip-
Still everything crashed.

Granted, those stocks did not have a 'halving engine' beneath them and maybe this would be a critical factor.
However, litecoin (not bitcoin) has similar halving process, yet it crashed very badly AFTER undergoing halving recently (albeit it was rising toward halving). Maybe it does not count because it is a minor coin, but arguing that halving works only on one entity is presumptuous.

TL;DR The upcoming halving would be a huge test of the 'halving engine' and S/F guideline idea. Fingers crossed.

Reasonable doubt. In general, it's exactly the uncertainty about future events that is rewarded in investments, so the bigger the doubt, the prettier the lambo in case of success.

As a tentatively reasonable objection to your doubt, it could be said that ltc is well known among the cryptoheads and almost unknown outside that circle. Many bitcoiners have a special place in their hearts for what they consider the mother of all altcoins. However, the normies who barely know the basics about btc have probably no clue what ltc is, so most ltc hodlers/investors are crypto savvy. For this reason, it is possible that the ltc halvening has indeed been front run by a population of investors almost entirely in the know.

Btc is a different beast. Big money guys, including those at GS and JPM, are nearly clueless about geek stuff like halvenings and so aren't likely to have front run the halvening, at least until now. Shhh, let's keep it to ourselves.



2457. Post 52689505 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: teosanru on October 08, 2019, 06:38:35 AM
A quick Scalp Opportunity for today



-snip-

Instead if BTC tries to move upwards in such scenario the 50MA would give a curvature upwards then buy above 8250 and target 8360 and 8400.

H4CK3RSP33K? That's not the proper way to spell SOMA.  Angry



2458. Post 52690519 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 08, 2019, 09:19:50 AM
for the record: closed my long position. we will see if 200 hourly SMA will hold.  Grin

the short position is 392.9 points in red (loss).

EDIT: @Eddie: do you sleep sometimes too? maybe just 4 hours or so?  Shocked
I do, but I have a nice team  Grin

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EDIT2: looks not so good for me! price is above support and 200 hSMA again. sl is at $8300. bullish sentiment in general.  Cry

In you too much emotion I feel. You're not set up for both directions, are you? Better keep them longs running a bit further IMHO.



2459. Post 52697256 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Shake down, move up.



2460. Post 52702703 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 09, 2019, 11:04:57 AM
Buulllllsshhheeeet. 


I thought you were pulling my leg and wasted 20 minutes looking for rude gifs. 

And then I thought to actually check my profile.   Dammmm. 

I guess I can sit at the big boys table now. 

I said as much just a couple days ago - "the last merit I can award to nonlegendary Hairy".
Long overdue if you ask me.
GRATZ!



2461. Post 52702724 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 09, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
The clock is ticking
activity is growing
I am now hero
(*)



(*)Haiku


And fillippone too!! Celebrating with a pretty haiku Smiley



2462. Post 52702740 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

@r0ach please don't make JJG shed salty (margarita) tears, not even out of overwhelming emotion. PLEASE.



2463. Post 52703514 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Move up, no leading shake. A bit early for weekend fuckery. Wait and see.



2464. Post 52703681 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

More up. Volume not impressive (yet). My long and short are equal now, and their entry points a bit closer than they were. The relaxing feeling of being price agnostic!  Grin

Up or down, it's all the same to me now. I'm expecting down, but I'm often wrong. More wait and see.

EDIT My short can't liquidate because of the way it works. My long liquidates, but it's still well under 4k.



2465. Post 52703781 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Yo Bob! Maybe you'll be able to solve your cashing out dilemma soon? JJG's advice seems pretty spot on to me: little anxiety, no pain.



2466. Post 52703817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

@psycodad

First, five syllables
In the middle it's seven
Close with five again.



#haiku



2467. Post 52703923 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 09, 2019, 02:37:58 PM
Yo Bob! Maybe you'll be able to solve your cashing out dilemma soon? JJG's advice seems pretty spot on to me: little anxiety, no pain.

I have JJG on ignore for reasons mostly dealing with maintaining my sanity. Did not read his opinion. Still hmming and hawing about a small selloff at $10k, but leaning towards HOLDing through to the New Year, at least. Looking to sell a small chunk (<25 BTC) more in line with Rick officially retiring sometime mid-late 2020.

Realized I didn't REALLY need the extra cash right now, as I have enough liquid already - should I need it, and no sense topping off our home account before corn moons some more.

Back to HODLing.

Ah... pity for the ignore. He tailored a loving post just for you. It contained solid averaging advice.



2468. Post 52704799 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

SOMA analysis: I am not convinced yet. The spike up is a bit too quick and it's coming in a descending sawtooth pattern. The spikes that held their own in the last months were more like a brusque change of curvature in a general uptrend.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 09, 2019, 03:25:52 PM
If you guys / management dislikes this Whalecalls stuff, please let me know and I'll cease.

That info is both relevant and useful IMHO. Keep on posting!  Smiley



2469. Post 52707961 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 09, 2019, 07:49:05 PM
Buulllllsshhheeeet. 


I thought you were pulling my leg and wasted 20 minutes looking for rude gifs. 

And then I thought to actually check my profile.   Dammmm. 

I guess I can sit at the big boys table now. 

I said as much just a couple days ago - "the last merit I can award to nonlegendary Hairy".
Long overdue if you ask me.
GRATZ!

Thanks man.  But how did you know ?

You had 966 activity. It is known new activity points come each other Wednesday (just a few days after that post). Assuming the random threshold activity to be equally distributed between 775 and 1030, I turned my probe beam to full power. SOMA analysis did the rest.



2470. Post 52716012 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 10, 2019, 04:43:26 PM
Are you saying that this thread was taken over by some random guy?

I thought he was busy moderating other threads.

How the H did you people find someone even lazier than Adam?

Fatman, you probably deserve all the greetings you got.



2471. Post 52717322 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 10, 2019, 05:40:59 PM
Master Eddie how is your short doing? still hedged with low spread?
#nohomo
Short not too happy yet, but improving slowly at the expense of the long. What's more important to me, my total margin is stable within 0.000004% - yes, that's 1/250,000. I'll cut down the losing branch as soon as she makes a solid move.



2472. Post 52717401 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 10, 2019, 06:56:10 PM
Master Eddie how is your short doing? still hedged with low spread?
#nohomo
Short not too happy yet, but improving slowly.

Until the BTC-hammer fall on that short  Kiss

Jinxing me, brother??  Angry



2473. Post 52717548 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on October 10, 2019, 07:03:11 PM
Master Eddie how is your short doing? still hedged with low spread?
#nohomo
Short not too happy yet, but improving slowly at the expense of the long. What's more important to me, my total margin is stable within 0.000004% - yes, that's 1/250,000. I'll cut down the losing branch as soon as she makes a solid move.

Master, does it mean you open more shorts if the long is growing on the way above? I understand it this way.

Yes, I brought the short up to the same size as the long when the price spiked, so their entry points are quite a bit closer now. If she goes down as I think she will, I'll cash out part of the short. If she goes up, I'll cash out part of the long. Ideally when she gets back, I can close both legs and keep the proceeds. Or maybe it will be more complicated, so I'll have to adjust things in progress because she likes to tease a lot. For now it's wait and see.



2474. Post 52719636 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 10, 2019, 11:03:27 PM
"Wargames" starring young Matthew Broderick.
This movie drilled that line in my head. It also was the reason for me to start messing around with computers as a young lad.
E.P.I.C
Also a good lesson in chance-based gambling: the only winning move is not to play.

Mmmm = poker “chance-based gambling” ?? Cause there you can achieve skills over others imo....

Poker - game of chance?
Are chances or people what
poker's all about?



2475. Post 52725656 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Shake up, move down, slide down. The upcoming weekend doesn't look too happy from here.

We might have enough time for both a gloomy weekend and an overall happy October, though.

@Hairy, is your tentative pre-Bakkt hypothesis of a happy October still valid given the present chart situation?



2476. Post 52730291 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 11, 2019, 11:17:08 PM
Hopefully this is not too complex of an issue for you to attempt to address, which is largely how do you stay profitable during exponential BTC up periods, or do you just factor in that there might be short periods, such as the one between April 1 and June 27 that your shorting attempts are NOT profitable?

Giving you an exhaustive answer is difficult, especially since I have no historical log of my trading moves - only of the transfers from play stash to cold storage when I accumulate enough profit. I don't remember what I was doing in the time frame you mention. What I remember is that I only started the two legged setups after seeing the mammoths, that is, when I felt the bear paws getting too close for comfort. It was the start of the latest bear market.

In general, I won't open a short out of the blue. Well, I did the first couple of times, during the mammoth era, while I was looking for a workable approach. However, I did have some trading experience already, so I was carefully humble - and probably lucky.  There was no loss. Nowadays when I hold a short position, it always has an opposing long, although sizes can and often do differ.

During an exponential up, I aim at not having any short open. So I set stops - even redundant ones, because fuckery exists. Besides, there are longish periods of rest without a single trade. On the other hand, if I spot a solid uptrend, I open a long position and leave it there or play a simple ladder similar to what you do. It's when it gets choppy, she goes down and my long hurts that I start thinking about a short-lived short. Or alternatively I open both positions almost at the same time, trying to start with the short higher than the long.

At the moment my long is still unhappy, but the short is green. Barely: there's still no room for a stop that leaves me in profit. So I'll let things stay as they are until a clear direction emerges. My SOMA expectation is a bloody weekend with slow, soft recovery on Monday. If things get brutal, my short will pay me a few more pennies. If she skyrockets, I'll lose some on the short (stops in place already), but the long leg will fly unencumbered. It has no stops, but if we get close to 5k I'll reconsider and taper it down before it liquidates (under 4k). In this gloomy scenario, the short will hopefully save my ass.

Summing up, I don't have an exact system. I oscillate between ladder up (basically what you do, only with margin), a double ladder (one up, one down) in times of calm range swings, and furious scalping/rebuilding on the short in times of trouble, when I have a suffering long that needs more support. Which is the current situation. The idea is to have a decently sized short position ready to cash out before the long goes belly up. It needn't necessarily have to make up for the whole loss, as long as it avoids liquidation. If (when!) the price goes back up, I'll regain most of the losses, or gain even more depending on the price trajectory and on my moves - such as possibly increasing my long after I feel the bottom is in, as long as the position remains small compared to the stash size.





2477. Post 52730865 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 12, 2019, 03:36:40 AM
I am not asserting that you are NOT telling the truth, but it does seem a bit strange for any of us BTC HODLers to NOT attribute a decent amount of significance to the surprising dynamics of the April 1 to June 27 period.
I was trading in that period, but only long positions. Unfortunately I don't have trace of the details. As I said earlier, my shorts only began with the latest bear market in 2018. Originally it was meant as a hedge.


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You know I had been thinking that bitcoin's doubling in late 2015 was quite amazing, and it took place from about October 15 to November 5, but the rise was so goddamned gradual until the decisive break above $320 that brought BTC's prices up to $504 from November 1 to November 4.
Before 2016 I wasn't trading at all.



2478. Post 52733614 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 12, 2019, 04:48:57 AM
I am not asserting that you are NOT telling the truth, but it does seem a bit strange for any of us BTC HODLers to NOT attribute a decent amount of significance to the surprising dynamics of the April 1 to June 27 period.
I was trading in that period, but only long positions. Unfortunately I don't have trace of the details. As I said earlier, my shorts only began with the latest bear market in 2018. Originally it was meant as a hedge.


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You know I had been thinking that bitcoin's doubling in late 2015 was quite amazing, and it took place from about October 15 to November 5, but the rise was so goddamned gradual until the decisive break above $320 that brought BTC's prices up to $504 from November 1 to November 4.
Before 2016 I wasn't trading at all.

I know that you are probably starting to suspect that I am either stalking you or becoming a pest, but the relevant period for this particular line of "interrogations" is April 1, 2019 to June 27, 2019.. our most recent exponential BTC price run up.. and clearly you had been in the BTC shorting practice already, after having had gotten a decent amount of experience under your belt during our somewhat deep and painful bearish period of 2018.

Yes, a bit of a pest indeed.  Tongue

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And, also this 2019 BTC price run up would have been a BIG one to actually challenge any ongoing BTC shorting strategy.  That is if you would have kept your BTC shorting strategy as ongoing and it seems like you are saying that you weren't, even though there would not have seemed to have been any reason (except in retrospect) to actually NOT expect a significant and meaningful correction of 30% or more.. which is quite common in BTClandia.. but did not really seem to happen during this 2019 BTC price run up.

You made me take a look at my transfer history. I did well in the 2019 Spring Bull. And yes, in the Spring Bull I've been running all three basic strategies (one at a time), with the one-legged long less frequent than the two-legged balanced, more price agnostic approaches that tickle your curiosity. Maybe the surplus transfers (profit accumulation) were a bit less frequent transfers, OK. In retrospect, I could have done better by simply longing and waiting, hindsight 20/20 and all that. But as long as the bull run has pullbacks (and that one had quite a few IIRC), a bit of short scalping on the side doesn't hurt. More than anything, it's a safety net if things go astray. Otherwise, it's an encumbrance. No free lunch, of course, but knowing how whimsy and wanton she is, I prefer to err on the side of caution.

Caution is the reason most of my shorts have stops before the disaster line. When I'm feeling unsure, and she smells like she's raising her head, I can tighten the stop and let the short go, at a loss. The same goes for the other leg, although I tend to cling to my longs  with more pride. I've been swallowing small losses on both sides recently, including April-June 2019, and I did post about that at the time. Maybe you could go and dig out those posts. That would also help me to reconstruct past history.

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I was just using those older dates of late 2015 as a relative comparison of the magnanimity of this particular 3.5x BTC price rise (with hardly any significant price corrections of 10% or more within that decently extended 3 month period).
Ah, now I see.

I occasionally post "trading disclosures", as I call them. Since I don't have an all-encompassing rule book (and I probably never will), the best way to figure out how things are going is keep an eye on those disclosures.



2479. Post 52733791 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 12, 2019, 11:29:18 AM
You forgot the bit where the big blockers try to fool newbies into thinking Bcash lol and BSV are Bitcoin.
It appears that you have no inkling of IP law. What makes you think BTC has exclusive claim on public domain art?

That's exactly the kind of slippery, "formally correct"  argument that gives you a bad name, jbreher.

You speak of dishonorable paths and then defend conman moves such as appropriating an already established logo because you have an "inkling of IP law".

If the nutjobs(TM) were selling drinks, or toys, or other unrelated items, that would have been fine and no one would've called anyone out. The point is, the scamming shitcoiners are in the very same business (tokens, cryptocurrencies or what you call this Internet magic money).

This is outright brand stealing. Not from the brand owner, but from the collective of stakeholders (bitcoiners).
The fact that there's no opponent who can sue for damage is comfortable eh?



2480. Post 52733845 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

^^ Jesus was a Jew too. Good riddance, no? Let them kill each other.  Tongue



2481. Post 52733922 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Trading disclosure, because I feel sooo lovey-dovey when I think of JJG.

The bloody weekend is not materializing. If anything, the short (equal to the long atm) is a losing bit now. I wish I could cash out part of one leg and rebuild it closer to the center (lower for the long, higher for the short). Which leg? My preference and rational expectation gravitate towards the short because reasons; one being I prefer to be long in general, another being that "down before up" is sexier than "up before down". Of course, I do my best not to let my hopes and preferences hinder my rational gameplay.

TL;DR Still more wait and see. Nothing to see here, gentlemen, move on please.



2482. Post 52737723 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Amazing wine ....!!!

*cryptoqueeen found it the best one till now (this evening)

Those tart Rieslings are among the few white wines worth drinking IMO. Nice find Smiley



2483. Post 52737866 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 12, 2019, 07:29:44 PM
That's the spirit, d_eddie!!!!   I was not trying to bust your balls over anything, especially in terms of some of the Opsec issues or even the potential "trade secret" problems that could come from too many "trading disclosures;"

I know. I don't think I'm busting my opsec, and I have no issue with would-be copycats. Firstly, I doubt there are any copycats in this context, and secondly my trading is labor-intensive enough to discourage the average lazy ass.

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yet frequently talking about trading strategies after they have been deployed should be less of a risk of the copy cat problem.. and sure if you want to refer to some kind of practice that you do in kind of an obscure way, that might be understandable too if you are trying to retain it as a kind of possible personal "trade secret" advantage that you believe that you might have.

No issue about the possible edge I could gain through my perfect, infallible personal trade secrets either.

One issue I have is that I try not to "jinx it", so to say. IOW, if a whale sniffing our waters figures my thinking is sound in a given context, and reckons many traders might be aligned with my entry points or moves, they could try and force a few stops just because they can. This is a good reason to be vague enough for the casual hunter not to sniff pray, while entertaining a meaningful conversation with like-minded gentlemen (or scoundrels, or different minded, for that matter).

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By the way, you are quite unlikely to get me attempting to even employ your various strategies,

Your numerous and extensive posts made this point quite clear  Tongue

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even though I frequently sigh some relief (when I read them) that I am NOT attempting to employ them (even if there may be considerable market move times that you could well likely be stacking decently more sats than me).  
Actually, now I manage to act with cool detachment. A little experience helps, of course, but this system has many soft levers, knobs and faders. The positions, as well as the P&L, evolve slowly over time, more so the more the positions are balanced. That's why I have time to think, calculate, project and act rationally rather than on emotion. The quiet satisfaction of bringing home 1% of my play stash, then 2%, then losing 1% and making up for it in the following 2 weeks doesn't compare to the adrenaline rush of a newfound lambo, of course, but it's good enough for me. And when maybe a couple months later I can stash away 10% or even 30%, I'm glad I found a viable "system" (of sorts) that works for me.




2484. Post 52737893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 12, 2019, 07:46:46 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Amazing wine ....!!!

*cryptoqueeen found it the best one till now (this evening)

Those tart Rieslings are among the few white wines worth drinking IMO. Nice find Smiley

Next wine scored better points on somekind of calculator my GF looks at some times.... but the one I posted was South African with a nice Dutch word on it......

Was the better scoring wine still white? I know it's just a matter of personal taste, but I can't stand most "elegant" white wines. I'll take a Vinho Verde or a Sauvignon Blanc over Gewürztraminer or even Chablis any day!



2485. Post 52740036 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on October 12, 2019, 09:17:21 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that the US ain't going to vote for Yang only because he looks so Chinese-ish?

Giant swaths of the population want to vote for someone who isn't white. Yang is the only one in the top 5 contenders according to betting odds who fits this description.

IMO racism/hate against Asians in America today is almost nonexistent. Tons of people have a problem with Whites, Hispanics, Blacks, Gays, Trans, Virgin Roach's, Bankers, and Arabs, but everyone seems to be cool with Asians. This is based on the hard science of my anecdotal life experience and borderline incontrovertible.  Smiley

Thanks, it's nice to know that. I'd have merited if I had any sMerit in my bag.

When will we be able to trade satoshis for some sMerits?
I think it's already happening (not here probably).

Duly merited for you Wink



2486. Post 52760337 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: jbreher on October 13, 2019, 01:21:50 AM
Actually, now I manage to act with cool detachment. A little experience helps, of course, but this system has many soft levers, knobs and faders. The positions, as well as the P&L, evolve slowly over time, more so the more the positions are balanced. That's why I have time to think, calculate, project and act rationally rather than on emotion.

I almost hesitate to wade in here. But you’re an old comrade. You speak of ‘cool detachment’. And when the Korn is being sedate, that’s fine. But all experience hath shewn that a strategy build on sedateness will be a losing strategy when everything goes skyward. Which it does.

I don't feel sedate. I feel in control - at least for the level of control a minnow can have over the river he's swimming it.
Besides, a strategy built on emotive reaction is doomed IMO.

And when everything goes skyward, I'll need very little trading anyway. Well maybe a little long just to feel like I'm getting a little more out of the pump. In general, I'm more cautious in a downtrend.

Quote from: jojo69 on October 13, 2019, 02:41:33 AM
A great warrior poet once said  “everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”.

A great warrior poet indeed!  Cheesy

I've got my share of punches. Still getting a few slaps time and again, but I guess it's you either learn to dodge or get out of the ring.



2487. Post 52760432 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

@VB I know how you feel. I'm a cat lover too. I've kept company with dozens of domesticated and semi-feral cats. Lately, I switched to a females only policy for domesticated cats with house access. I'm still a widower. The latest cat I had was the most specialest of them all. I'd got hold of her by sheer chance. I got her as a young adult because her previous human (an old lady) didn't feel she could manage anymore. I want it to happen like that again: I'm waiting for the purrfect pussy to jump on my lap (metaphorically), rather than reaching out to find my next feline princess.

We know from the start that in the "normal" scheme of things, our friend will go before us. So we've got a choice. Is avoidance of the eventual pain worth giving up a good chunk of life with a feline companion?



2488. Post 52771327 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Closed a part of the short at a tiny profit. Looking to reshort the same quantity a little higher if possibile. I don't like that lonely long weeping softly. Especially if soft whinging should turn into acrid tears later on.



2489. Post 52771603 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Let trolls troll. As long as no one replies, they'll get weary. Not everyone has r0ach's patience.



2490. Post 52778321 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Trading disclosure for peeps who are interested.

My short is very happy now! Unfortunately, I haven't managed to make it even with the long after yesterday's minidump. And I've been too timid in general. I should have made it much larger than the long - even double! With a tight stop on only half of it (evening it out with the long in case of a ramp up, but keeping it nicely plump if/while she kept going down). Well, hindsight is 20/20. I would have been even happier now, and I could have closed both positions with a net profit.

As it is now I'm still in the game, but it will take one more bounce up to make me whole - or some more risk on the short - which at this relatively low price, I'm unwilling to take.




2491. Post 52778335 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

@JSRAW Congrats man! Surprised to find out you actually weren't a hero member already - almost as it was with Hairy, who actually only became a hero when he was already nearly a legend in deed.



2492. Post 52778378 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

@Bawb

Not my business, man, but... consider what ignored JJG has to say: Cash it out a little at a time, like in 2-4 chunks - especially if you don't actually need all the money at once.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
New Plan: Dumping 50 BTC next time we cross $10k USD. Rick approved. He's nervous as well.

Fuck this action.

this is exactly what whales try to force the dump money to do even now at the 8k mark.

don't be the victim be the actor. refuse to be the victim always because it's not good for mentality health to get in this secondary position.

EDIT: sorry, mixed up decline and refuse  (not my mothertongue) Roll Eyes

Exactly!!!!!

Plans to cash out BTC should be more strategic and incremental and account for likely BTC rises in the next 2 to 6 years rather than based on fears and emotional concerns about downside potential that is NOT as likely as the FUD spreaders are making it out to be. 


But whatever guys are going to do what they are going to do, and since Bob has previously presented some of his actual numbers, rather than percentages, I would imagine that 50BTC is around 1/8 or more of Bob's BTC stash... so seems to me to be a bit emotionally based to be cashing out so large of a percentage of his stash based on little blips up in BTC's price and seemingly over concernedness about BTC possible downside, which is likely more of a shortterm thing and NOT as likely as mainstream media FUD would like us to believe.



2493. Post 52778714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 16, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
Just reading on Twitter that one of the largest child porn rings in the world spanning 11 countries has been taken down. Access was via bitcoin on the darkweb.

Maybe a reason for the slight dump?

Edit - Found a more informative link - https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1184490895439093761?s=21

Edit 2 - Fucking hell, that’s bad. 32 kids were rescued, they were being abused by creeps using this site operated by a South Korean guy.

Good they shut the shithole down, but no, I think this fact doesn't explain the dumplet.



2494. Post 52780884 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Trading disclosure for peeps who are interested.

My short is very happy now! Unfortunately, I haven't managed to make it even with the long after yesterday's minidump. And I've been too timid in general. I should have made it much larger than the long - even double! With a tight stop on only half of it (evening it out with the long in case of a ramp up, but keeping it nicely plump if/while she kept going down). Well, hindsight is 20/20. I would have been even happier now, and I could have closed both positions with a net profit.

As it is now I'm still in the game, but it will take one more bounce up to make me whole - or some more risk on the short - which at this relatively low price, I'm unwilling to take.

What do you mean by "make me whole"?   Are you valuing your situation in fiat?  If you made some profits from BTC's price going down and you have accumulated some more BTC from BTC's price going down, then relatively speaking, you are better off from BTC's price going down than guys like me who are merely engaging in longs only.

I'm valuing my situation in btc only. The matter is I've got an open long that is hurting. The short being as much as the short, my actual margin situation is stationary: I can't actually gain anything unless I cash some short (which I have, but not that much) AND the corn goes back up at least a little. The situation would have been better if I'd inflated the short in the ballpark of 2x the long - or at least to a larger size than the long. In that case, I would sit on larger profits and could cash out 1/2 of the short position and get even - or even more and be net positive, so closing both legs would leave me in the green. I was too wimpy to do that, because of my discomfort with shorting the corn.

Quote
Thus, my whole networth has gone down about the 70% or more as much as BTC's price drop to the amount of my number of BTC's

Same here! Same for all hodlers, actually. All my trading only happens with a small fraction of my btc holdings - the "play stash" or play money - and I only refer to that small fraction whenever I report the whereabouts of my trades.

I do buy physical once in a while - when I can or feel like it, and without a steady ladder or DCA approach. I reserve most of my cool head thinking for my trading, and treat physical btc purchases as impulse buys (well, I do wait for dips of course Wink )

Quote
consider what ignored JJG has to say

hahahahaha  

I kind of like this moniker... In my thinking, the only way to improve it would be to add a few more adjectives such as "[the nosey pain-in-the-ass no homo] ignored JJG".  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Don't get too nosy, or someone could call Batman upon YOU.  Tongue



2495. Post 52780955 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: erre on October 16, 2019, 06:08:20 PM
Stay away from Thailand.

They will try to get your money by giving you a choice between death, life in Thai prison (a fate worse than death) or all of your bitcoin.

The lucky get out while they can.

Yep.  Especially if you poke them by engaging in arguably illegal conduct.  Go figure?

Thailand decided unilaterally it was "illegal" to threat their sovereignty and that elwar and his wife should die for death penalty. They physically removed the "threat" posed in international waters using war boats and even arrested people who helped in the construction. This potentially deathly aggression was decided without the aid of any international institution.

China is making military bases on artificial islands in international waters, and this seems to be fine (or at least debatable) for international law.

Freedom is not something due to us from the states, even first-word democracies. Freedom was a conquer, and it still is. States don't want anyone to be free from their influences, they would prefer to be in control.
Seastanding is something about freedom, and so it is bitcoin.


Your words resonate with me. You made me think of Raven - that character in Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash that has independent nation status only because he goes around toting a nuclear weapon.



2496. Post 52781187 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 05:47:27 PM
Stay away from Thailand.

They will try to get your money by giving you a choice between death, life in Thai prison (a fate worse than death) or all of your bitcoin.

The lucky get out while they can.

Yep.  Especially if you poke them by engaging in arguably illegal conduct.  Go figure?

Elwar laid his seasted OUTSIDE the territorial waters. What the Thai govt did was a unilateral move not explicitly granted by the specifics of international law.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 05:47:27 PM
oooooooo
am being slow here
is that why they came after Elwar
not because sovereignty issues
but because they heard you were an OG coiner


Hahahahahaha

What a convenient spin.   Shocked

I don't think V8 is way off. The truth probably lies in the middle. If it came down to an arrest, I'm sure Elwar's stash could have helped with milder sentencing or even getting away with it entirely, depending on the complexity of the situation or the degree of corruption of the relevant Thai officials.


Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 07:20:36 PM
Oh I am starting to see.  Individuals like Elwar should be able to just state his territory anywhere he likes, even if he does not have an armed forces to back him up... and nation states should just roll over and allow that?

-snip-

O.k.  So individuals are equal to states.  Hm?

Well, Raven in Snow Crash was. The matter is, he had a nice toy to ease the opponent's compliance to international law. What would have happened if Elwar had a few nuclear missiles auto-activated by hostile fire? It's just like the constitutional right to own a firearm, only taken into the international arena. As erre pointed out, China's building not seasteds but outirght war stations in the sea, and no one says a word. I don't support or even condone the insane arms race we're witnessing, but what international law eventually boils down to is who's got the biggest dick.

Quote from: erre on October 16, 2019, 06:08:20 PM
China is making military bases on artificial islands in international waters, and this seems to be fine (or at least debatable) for international law.

Sorry for the OT rant. Well, partially OT since it contains the word bitcoin (you just read it didn't you?). It's that these things really trigger me.



2497. Post 52781409 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2019, 08:28:03 PM
Maybe in the end, we are on similar grounds when the vast majority of our BTC holdings is in the background in HODL status rather than playing around with it?

Yes. I don't even consider myself a trader, since it is a side activity - small stake and a small income - and I get out of trading for longish stretches of time.



2498. Post 52782708 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 16, 2019, 09:09:00 PM


Mic, resisting of quoting the houseTROLL, but yes I did found him, still bouncing .... must be the missed out on BTC-syndrome


He did put a lot of work in it. I call it patience - but as someone faintly suggested, the expression could be

    stub-born-tard-ityy

(Prince mockup performed by stage dressed Bawb).

(EDITED: Lyrics)



2499. Post 52782785 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Bored Sideth - longing?
You don't long on a platform
You long with your mind



#doireallyhavetotagthis



2500. Post 52782891 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Gyrsur dreams of peaks
conquered with the Cartoon Queen
climber (into bed)


#notanotherhaikuplease



2501. Post 52789368 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 17, 2019, 02:56:05 PM
As to curing quickly, not sure how that would affect the taste.

Not in a good way  Wink



2502. Post 52792849 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 17, 2019, 06:02:35 PM
No, the air itself would have to be over 378K for that to happen. You would have to enter that room in a special heat resistant suit.
As to curing quickly, not sure how that would affect the taste.
210 degree celsius is just a few above 100K from THC vaporization temperature, so it would affect potency as well.
I'd say 18 deg. celsius with constant air blowing, around 50% humidity, no UV light. About two weeks. Quality, taste, crispiness of buds.
I never touched any drugs, btw. *cough* *cough*

I may or have not undergone some abject failures at experimentation with creating crude concentrates, utilizing Everclear as a solvent agent... but I digress... The recipe I was following called for decarbing plant at 165F (previously, incorrectly specified 165C) for 30 minutes. YMMV it seems.

Anyway, can't wait for things to go legal so I can spend the rest of my life on this planet earning a green thumb, and live happily ever after.

As for my hmming and hawwing about any moves shaving off from my stash to settle Rick's neurosis bleeding into my life, I'm still trying to stick firm with my gut of not touching my stash until 2022 for a small sale to fund our ranch & farm business.

Thank you folks, for beating some reason back into me, even via PMs, while venting my lameass first-world problems of wanting to do something @ $10k.

Rick just needs to learn to chill the fuck out, and I need to work on having a firmer pimp-hand.

Edit: Even thanks to JJG, who I have on ignore, but read and considered his points.

Glad to hear you found a little peace of mind. Where you're at, I guess a few thousands can't make that big of a difference. However, getting stressed over having missed out or acted too quickly etc. can really prick the hardest testicles, including titanium-trained balls.

+WOsMerit (out of the boring ones ATM)



2503. Post 52793058 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Dunkelheit667 on October 17, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
<snip>
Don't know about pure nicotine, but i guess it's easier to get away from it than from tobacco with its dozens or hundreds of secret additives.
Nicotine is more or less like caffeine. If you can't drink your usual cup of coffee or tea, you may get a headache and be a little grumpy. After a while these "withdrawal symptoms" will disappear. What makes cigarette withdrawal so difficult is definitely contained in the thousands of additives found in cigarettes today. One of them might be monoamine oxidase inhibitors, I do not know if they are naturally present in tobacco, but if someone responds to them and want to stop smoking, it could make it very difficult.

Both Nicotiana tabacum (common tobacco) and Nicotiana rustica (the more poisonous wild variety, often used by the heathens in their shamanic ceremonies) contain several alkaloids besides nicotine, which is the main addiction factor. Just think of all the people who give up cigs for vapes. They manage on nicotine only. Some of the alkaloids in Nicotianas have significant MAOI effect.



2504. Post 52800738 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 18, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Instead of getting margin called.

Have small amount of stops before the margin call. Your margin call price will get lower and have a stop before that call. (cross leverage)

Your position will be underwater and need a price above your oginal entry but better than losing it all.

Hopium is only above $9000

Adding to your longs isn't a good idea in this scenario.

Try to stay alive


Everything under $9k is a potential bull trap.

Above $9k and you have to analyze the market & adjust your stops.

Reduce or add but with multiple stops

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 18, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
There is still a possibility for a retest of at least 9k

https://ibb.co/d58Ryvc

Well said. And, I should add, make the stops redundant - the last two should go over what's needed with the "close only"  flag set. Just in case, you know. When turmoil and panic ensue, price jumps can be badly discontinuous.

At least your take about "breathing stops", as I call them, is IMO golden. Your analysis of current prices hits a fair match with what my SOMA tools  report. Technicals apart, given the wimpy volume, 9k retest is entirely possible - for example, in the scenario where this is just a slow, deep "shake down"  in a double "shake down, shake up" move or, even better, in a "shake down, move up (front run the halving)".

Note I'm saying nothing about your beliefs, "religion"  or attitude, which might be seen as crappy and will be promptly swatted should the need arise.



2505. Post 52800913 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 09:28:58 AM
Took THC Cannabis Oil yesterday & spent most of the day like a cabbage, fuck that is some weird shit man.

Never again!

Still feel weird now. Observing sub 8k Sad
Like a cabbage. I'll steal this!  Cool

Oral route is a wild thing. It takes a little more to get thresholds effects, but once that line is passed, you're in for a looooong ride. There are a few people who actually enjoy that, but at least in the sample population of my stoner friends, it's a definite minority. Worse than psychs IME.

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on October 18, 2019, 12:48:02 PM
Sounds good I only see CBD which seems to undermine the point of it for me

What is wrong with CBD on its own ? I've learned to enjoy the "body-relaxing" qualities, that leave me clear-headed.

I’m sure CBD is fine. The THC oil is like some kind of mushroom or acid trip, never ingesting it again man. I have 5 bottles though, might use it on my skin or in the bath or something.
You could probably also use it to make your own edibles (depending on what exactly your oil contains). Concentrates make for fairly easy pinpoint dosing.

Yes! A few drops in a latte or something require little or no cooking and can give a humanly bearable stone for only a few hours.

On the other hand, Baudelaire used to gulp down like 3 grams of the good stuff and then off to the theater. They didn't have Marvel back then, but I suspect it all looked like Spiderman 14: The Vortex to them. 72 hours straight could easily break a lesser spirit.



2506. Post 52801144 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

I would like to award some WOsMerit, given my sad null with old boring plain merits. I've been itching for a while, and restraining myself, but when it's too much it's too much.

Let's hear it for V8 with his unusually explicit and plain bullish stand!
Quote from: Last of the V8s on October 18, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
Yeah they won't be able to suppress the price much longer.
People are realising it's freedom-money.
We ain't seen nothing yet.
+1

Let's hear it for vapourminer with his stylish SWIMming!
Quote from: vapourminer on October 18, 2019, 10:22:41 AM
"A friend of mine" Wink Wink
SWIM is a busy person.
+1

Let's hear it for LFC with his cabbage and social service warnings!
Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 01:16:44 PM
@coindesk
Hackers have been distributing a compromised version of the official Tor Browser that's packed with malware designed to steal bitcoin and spy on users. Security firm @ESET says it's been going on for "many years."
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1185165299450028033?s=21

@torproject
https://www.coindesk.com/fake-tor-browser-has-been-spying-stealing-bitcoin-for-years
Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 09:28:58 AM
Took THC Cannabis Oil yesterday & spent most of the day like a cabbage,
+2

Let's hear it for Lambie with his dutiful suggestions about spending scam money or legit btc hodler profits.
Quote from: Lambie Slayer on October 18, 2019, 07:22:15 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator
+1





2507. Post 52801201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: erre on October 18, 2019, 04:20:03 PM
Baudelaire used to ingest black hash with a 10-20% thc content, not pure oil or extract.
3 g of oil or extract can probably flatline an elephant  Cheesy

Quote from: jojo69 on October 18, 2019, 04:17:51 PM
The classic edible experience;

T+0:00 subject ingests recommended dose

T+0:30 no effects felt

T+1:00 still nothing, did I get ripped off?

T+1:30 this shit is bunk, WTF, subject eats remaining product

T+14:00 still curled in fetal position behind freezer in the garage... DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!
Seems like jojo has some interesting experiences under his belt too  Wink

Quote from: erre on October 18, 2019, 04:20:03 PM
Lol...this reminds me of my juvenile experience with lsd blotters  Cheesy
I call myself lucky - never had such from L or other psychs. Just curious: how much are we talking about?



2508. Post 52802597 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Sniff my socks.



2509. Post 52803142 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 18, 2019, 04:35:38 PM

Seems like jojo has some interesting experiences under his belt too  Wink


I have no idea what you are talking about.  I am basing my statements purely on national reporting.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/maureen-dowd-tries-marijuana_n_5442224

Whatever. You do have perfect Erowid accent.



2510. Post 52803157 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 18, 2019, 08:38:51 PM
I'm suddenly getting the fear... that we may possibly be dealing with a BearWhale here.

Bear is allegedly edible, and I'm in for kujira sashimi any day. Let'em come.

(says the guy who still has a nice short open)



2511. Post 52808858 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Big bounce up. It seems like the support around 7.9k is still a thing.



2512. Post 52833283 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 21, 2019, 07:42:53 PM
pray for the ponzi.

shorts closing is the only buy support i see.
You are free to go and screw yourself. Come back in a year or so. Thank you.



2513. Post 52844581 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Ouch. Another $100 slip.



2514. Post 52851291 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

OUCH



2515. Post 52851726 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Disclosure: Reduced my short to a small fraction of what it was. I hope in a rebound to rebuild it higher with tight stops. The long is in very bad shape, but liquidation got quite a bit further away with this oxygen intake.



2516. Post 52852167 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

They ain't gonna liquidate ME until they push her well under 4k Tongue



2517. Post 52853978 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: erre on October 23, 2019, 04:22:22 PM
say that everything is still ok.

No one ever said that the road to the new ATH would be a piece of cake. We're just experiencing growing pains, and probably some fuckery (the expiring futures are as good a reason as any). Heavy regulation can't come down too hard if some of the powers that be are deep in it. And some are.

Everything is still OK.



2518. Post 52853997 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

A V-shaped bottom spotted on short timescales (minutes). It could mean anything, including a quick recovery.

File under Price Observation.



2519. Post 52854124 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 23, 2019, 04:32:14 PM

But we are 203 ahead of halving.
https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

You don't want to be caught short.
Not now.
Indeed, my short is gone for now. Thanks for the satoshis  Grin
Willing to reopen if we see 7.6-7.7, but wary of the 8k's that might be behind the corner (that corner, not this now corner).



2520. Post 52866990 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: kurious on October 24, 2019, 10:58:06 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195299.0

Wall Observer searching for some support imo...

Indeed. He has mine.

Let's root for fillippone! The WO gang can't be ignored.



2521. Post 52867038 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 24, 2019, 02:23:05 PM
if you are scared from BAKKT impact on market, then brace for more:

Bakkt to Launch Options on Its Bitcoin Futures Dec. 9


Quote
Bakkt announced Thursday that it would “launch the first regulated options contract for bitcoin futures,” adding a new product to its current slate of physically-settled bitcoin futures contracts. CEO Kelly Loeffler said in a Medium post that the contracts were built in response to customer feedback, and that ICE Futures US self-certified the contract through the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).

I am afraid time has come to write the option equivalen to my Everything you wanted to know about BTC futures but were afraid to ask! post.
Gigantic work, but has to be done.


Options for bitcoin FUTURES, again. How about plain old options? I wonder why they're approaching it this way.



2522. Post 52867063 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on October 24, 2019, 02:30:33 PM
What about harvesting human organs from those people.. Of course the world doesn't dare complaining to the CCP because of economic reasons. Undecided



https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-a-million-people-are-jailed-at-china-s-gulags-i-escaped-here-s-what-goes-on-inside-1.7994216

OR, they are holding and reeducating muslim terrorists and potential terrorists to safeguard the people.
Unlike the western democracies who cuddle them and let them in to their countries so they can commit terrorist acts against us.

The Uighurs weren't born terrorists. They were born nomads. Most of them are harmless people living in nearby countries, where their ethnicity is just one ingredient in a fairly tolerant, diverse mix. Those who were "trapped" in China got the stick. It's easy to understand that some might have gotten a bit vocal.



2523. Post 52867079 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: _javi_ on October 24, 2019, 02:32:34 PM
if you are scared from BAKKT impact on market, then brace for more:

Bakkt to Launch Options on Its Bitcoin Futures Dec. 9


Quote
Bakkt announced Thursday that it would “launch the first regulated options contract for bitcoin futures,” adding a new product to its current slate of physically-settled bitcoin futures contracts. CEO Kelly Loeffler said in a Medium post that the contracts were built in response to customer feedback, and that ICE Futures US self-certified the contract through the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).

I am afraid time has come to write the option equivalen to my Everything you wanted to know about BTC futures but were afraid to ask! post.
Gigantic work, but has to be done.


...customers will have the choice of options contracts settled with cash, meaning customers receive the fiat equivalent to the contract’s value at expiration, or physically, meaning they receive the actual bitcoin...

Not another tool to gamble and short BTC...  Cry Cry
It's harder to push prices around with options than it is with futures. But I don't know about options on futures: it isn't a kind of asset I've ever heard about before Bakkt. Not that I am a derivative pundit anyway.



2524. Post 52876204 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

THIS escalated quickly. Nice dildo, long and reasonably fat given the meager recent volumes.



2525. Post 52876255 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 24, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
if you are scared from BAKKT impact on market, then brace for more:

Bakkt to Launch Options on Its Bitcoin Futures Dec. 9


Quote
Bakkt announced Thursday that it would “launch the first regulated options contract for bitcoin futures,” adding a new product to its current slate of physically-settled bitcoin futures contracts. CEO Kelly Loeffler said in a Medium post that the contracts were built in response to customer feedback, and that ICE Futures US self-certified the contract through the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).

I am afraid time has come to write the option equivalen to my Everything you wanted to know about BTC futures but were afraid to ask! post.
Gigantic work, but has to be done.


Options for bitcoin FUTURES, again. How about plain old options? I wonder why they're approaching it this way.

Option on a physically settled future on bitcoin are basically the same thing of an option on the bitcoin itself. I really can’t see any difference.
They're almost the same thing - but only if settlement date of the options coincides with that of the underlying future.

Quote
They are doing so to “recycle” a few items legally I think. But nothing real for the user.

I agree on the "recycling" bit, but but... they must have hard btc because of physical settlement... so where does the need to recycle come from?

Quote
Edit: I saw the message from Javi on the choice between physical or cash settlement of the options. I don’t know his source, but it looks very odd to me, but everything is possible.
If I know more, I will let you know.
This choice is a bit fishy. Fractional reserves maybe? Tu quoque, Bakkt?



2526. Post 52879818 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Here goes the weekend. This is going to be nice.



2527. Post 52879827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Hm yes but it feels a bit too fast for my taste. The slow grind is less exciting, but more effective.



2528. Post 52879863 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):




2529. Post 52880049 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

10k near



2530. Post 52882763 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: SuperTA on October 26, 2019, 03:40:58 AM
So, guys, where to sell and where to buy? Asking those who trade. Hodlers seem not to care. They just hold.

At an exchange is my suggestion.



2531. Post 52894696 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on October 27, 2019, 12:17:29 AM
A dark rainy night
I just shot my dear old cat
Tears rolling down my face

I feel for you, Arrie. It seems this season has been quite bad for WO cats  Cry



2532. Post 52900604 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: Icygreen on October 27, 2019, 03:55:58 PM
Just had a lovely walk and found these little buggers







Nice Grin

Morning WO's, up another couple hundred from last night.

I'm curious how you intend to prepare these? There's only a few things I've been too afraid to try, Fly ammonita, pantera's, and tree datura are the ones which still torment my curiosity.
Please let us know how it goes.  

A. muscaria and A. pantherina are similar. Pantherina is allegedly stronger. Both contain basically the same actives. By decarboxylating the acid into muscimol, a manageable entheogen can be obtained. Decarboxylation can be carried out by drying in open air or in a low heat oven (think merengue). The intoxication is totally unlike psylocibin, more like a drunken trance often accompanied by nausea or other discomfort. Doable with some care. If you give the mushroom a few quick boils, always discarding the water, you are left with a harmless edible mushroom. I have no idea how tasty it is, but if we're talking food, I'd choose A. caesarea any day - and cook it very lightly (sauteed in butter). Or eat it raw, as in a salad ;-)

On the other hand, daturas are downright nasty. Tree datura - you mean brugmansia? - is one of the quirkiest and least predictable. I see little recreational value in nightshades and relatives. They really are best left alone.



2533. Post 52900735 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: Searing on October 27, 2019, 05:21:04 PM


Thoughts?

Not sure if 1D is a reliable timeframe. Plenty of room for up on weekly according to RSI.

Yes, but I can't make heads or tails of the current green dildo on weekly until the 28th. Only then will we see where we stand.


Yeah those are good thoughts, I like those thoughts. My thoughts exactly.

If BTC hits the $50k mark a lot of us would at least have a 'lame' shot at the above, for a date maybe. But for a 'Trophy Wife' I still think you'd have to hang in there

for $200K coin, for that level of vroom, vroom in a Trophy Wife. Of course, most of us here are old/over-weight/plain looking at best/techno-nerds. So the odds are

good that the 'strain' of any nocturnal activities with such, most of us would be dead within a week for most and a month for the rest. But then again, what a way to go!

Wife? Who needs a wife? Shackles aren't a requirement for nocturnal strain. Especially not if the wallet rings with the sound of tingling bitcoins at 200k.



2534. Post 52907373 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 28, 2019, 02:16:41 PM

Good advise
I also recommend MDMA with a little 2cb  for a trip without the confusion  Undecided

MDMA does bring some confusion for me, but each one is different(TM). As for good, it is good. It's something I think should be tried at least once in a lifetime. I only did it a few precious times, well spaced apart so it hasn't lost its magic yet.

Quote from: makrospex on October 28, 2019, 02:16:41 PM
Pure MDMA, so hard to get these days  Roll Eyes
I miss the nineties in that regard.
Still one has to watch serotonine and dopamine drainage, i wouldn't do it too often.
Great sex, better than on blow, imo. Both a little too "athletic", however (but that's all about personal preference *lol*)

2cb in moderation is great for sex. I can't say the same for MDMA. It gives me a heart full of love and a limp dick, but YMMV and apparently it does. Is it really so hard to find these days? My friends tell me it isn't so. I still have a little hidden away, but I'm not telling anyone until that very special occasion comes up.  Wink



2535. Post 52910745 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

In the meantime, she's acting bad girl again.



2536. Post 52921636 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 29, 2019, 09:50:49 AM
Guys as I told before, nowadays its very easy and there is only one sentence for that matter....

"I am satoshi"

Signed with the secret key for the genesis block, if at all possible. Or they might as well not even bother.



2537. Post 52969041 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):

A few busy days - a few dozen pages behind. Business as usual...



2538. Post 53052515 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):

Haven't caught up yet. I must be already 100+ pages behind. Not gonna check, or it will spoil my mood. Just came here to post my personal take on the current price quagmire.

I AIN'T SELLING NOT A BLOODY SAT.

Well that's it for now, folks...



2539. Post 53092660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):

Haven't been able to come here at all, life's too busy atm. I see the corn is taking a plunge. November was expected to be a good month, as was October. Seems like we've got to hone our patience skills. As someone would say, sheeit.

Still hodling anyway. My safety short is smiling at me, but of course I'm losing on the long. Just to be sure, I'm getting some more physical.



2540. Post 53165741 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):

My long is being beaten to shreds, and happiness is a thing of the past.
What's a man supposed to do? Why, buying physical!
(Investment money decoupled from play stash.)



2541. Post 53174950 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Masterluc on telegram
Quote
We have the weekly ma200 at 4000. I think after a rebound we can still visit it. Well, that fits into the picture above.



2542. Post 53180388 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 25, 2019, 07:31:30 AM
My long is being beaten to shreds, and happiness is a thing of the past.
What's a man supposed to do? Why, buying physical!
(Investment money decoupled from play stash.)

You did not sufficiently off-set with a short this time around?
I cashed it out already, and I won't short again right now.



2543. Post 53190085 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

I've got some slight life issues ATM. Watching the corn doesn't help a bit.
Shitty times come, shitty times go. Waiting.
Well, at least I had no boating accident yet.



2544. Post 53208996 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Updating Direwolf's digest. (JSRAW, we're doing what we can, but it's not our job!)

The Goose volunteers as betkeeper. LFC is happy with that. Bossian doesn't endorse escrow.

Goldkingcoiner shows how to properly quote the Roach, in specific contexts.

Pamoldar shares a special birthday.

And I finally caught up too.





2545. Post 53213368 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Bossian, I see your point about the time of the bear. It does make some sense, but my attention vanishes when you go on and talk about 1k.

The descending line in the last chart starts in November. I guess it would have been difficult (impossible, more like) to draw from a point further back in time?



2546. Post 53213379 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on November 29, 2019, 02:38:22 PM
Wife goes with SarahBitcoin.club LOL however I also have SarahBTC.club and BitcoinGirl.club too which will be redirected to SarahBitcoin.club

I'd keep the Sarah bit out of the main hostname, but maybe it's just me...



2547. Post 53213385 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Gentlemen, FFS! I'm just done catching up and you post over 3 pages in a few hours? This won't end well.



2548. Post 53223277 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on November 30, 2019, 04:27:44 PM
I have a feeling we're going to greet goodby Bossian soon.
The shit hit the sock, with LFC bet.
I think that if Bossian really wants to honor the bet, he could settle with GoosEscrow(TM) and state it out loud.
Most WO peeps know those funds are safe with micgoossens, if anyone.
He's the guy who routinely pays up prizes for his games - from his personal funds and without a blink.
The value of the prizes is significantly larger than this bet amount.



2549. Post 53240704 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 02, 2019, 12:50:38 PM
Well, wasps can bite and bees can sting, can't they? Enough reason to not welcome them to my garden I think. To be honest I have never been sting by a bee but.... I hate when one disturbs my peace of mind while I am sunbathing because I think/fear it could sting me. I don't even like flies nor mosquitoes even if those won't bite me.


Wasps are dangerous and need to die by fire, but bees don't want to sting you as it is their last defense and then they die from using the stinger. Don't bother them and you can walk right through them. I had one queen Bee sting me when i was young but I sat on it! Damn that hurt. Cheesy


If where you live supports bats then put up some bat houses and that will take care of the mosquito's. And making sure there is no standing water on your property keeps the mosquitoes and flys away as well.

Wasps more dangerous than bees? Why? I mean, I don't really know. To me both are just annoying when it comes to me trying to relax. No big deal though... But if I can have then away of my close proximity I am happier.

Avoiding standing water on my property is not possible as I have a big pool just side to the house... It doesn't seem to particularly attract mosquitoes (probably because I have it chlorinated and perfectly clean all year round). Also mosquitoes don't bite me (or if they do, which probably do, I don't get an itch nor notice anything).

I will consider the bats houses thing (will google about it) as I don't mind bats... But I don't think my GF will approve that. It already took me a lot of effort reasoning about the convenience of putting some geckos (which she strongly and irrationally fears/hates) "housing" on the outside. Maybe my dislike of wasps/bees is also irrational. Go figure. It's my garden though. Smiley

Wasp, bees, bio warfare.

Wasps are more aggressive (many wasps are predators, while bees are vegetarian). Wasp stings are generally more painful than bee stings.

However, bee stings are more likely to cause serious anaphylaxis and death in allergic individuals.

Geckos are moderately useful for keeping mosquitoes in check. Bats are better, but they prefer to feast on small flies (fruit flies etc), usually more numerous than mosquitoes. They are also a good indicator of clean air, since they can't survive in heavily polluted areas.

The best bio-weapon for mosquitoes are ladybirds (ladybugs) from what I've heard and read. They are relentless predators of anything that moves. They are already effective at the larval stage. Preferred food: aphids, but they do eat mosquitoes too.

The ideal solution would be some aquatic predator that could clear mosquitoes while they're aquatic larvae, but I don't know about any widely adopted specific solution. Frogs anyone?



2550. Post 53242599 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 02, 2019, 05:33:23 PM
am not googling lol surprise doll wtf is that
I think it's something innocent. Lols are small dolls produced in a variety of skins and attires. The point is collecting them all. Some girls are crazy about them - toddlers to teenagers. Surprise doll? Must mean unspecified series/attire, or something like that.



2551. Post 53275817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 06, 2019, 05:11:15 AM
As evidenced below:  thanks for paying me in the last two days, Bob... that is why we are such buddy, buddies......  Kiss Kiss  

#NoHomo.


[edited out]
Here is the list of people mr popular bob has been paying in the last 2 days

{long ass list of people Bob bought a beer for, from a loose comment he made while drunk, which proves he is a man of his word. [He also offered me one even though I had only been lurking during that time]}


He's unhinged, here is a link to his trust flag if you guys haven't supported it yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2580400
I've added my support to Lauda's warning, and added a trust rating of my own (without flags though, since I never came into direct contact with The Nutter Above All).



2552. Post 53278164 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on December 06, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
Please guys, don't scare off that piece of shit too quickly - take it easy - I'm bored doing r0achie, need a new bitch to refresh.

Could he be ready for Kathleen's bike already, or do you reckon he needs toasting a little longer?



2553. Post 53278437 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

It feels a bit slow to be the leading edge of a weekend pump, but with her I never really know what will happen.



2554. Post 53279084 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

We've endured worse. He'll be gone in a while. Worst case, we've got the wonderful magical I button.



2555. Post 53284580 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: jupiter9 on December 07, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
1+1=11  OPTIMISM

In base 1 that doesn't seem optimistic.



2556. Post 53293277 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

By the way, I am still on the lookout for a reliable dead man switch arrangement. I'm afraid if anything happens to me, my family won't be able to collect. Any tips? Should I open yet another thread "out there"?



2557. Post 53293899 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: dragonvslinux on December 08, 2019, 04:13:51 PM
By the way, I am still on the lookout for a reliable dead man switch arrangement. I'm afraid if anything happens to me, my family won't be able to collect. Any tips? Should I open yet another thread "out there"?

The best way I can see this working is by already transmitting the transaction, to a wallet that your family already own, but with a time delay of anywhere between a few months and a decade (depending on your desire for maintenance). I'd like to think this can be done by transmitting into a specific block in the future with nLockTime (discussion here), but I may be wrong. Possibly there are features within the lightning network that can facilitate this as well but again not sure.

This would act as the most reliable insurance for worst case scenarios, and don't already have shared custody set up, but more importantly would guarantee that your family get your Bitcoin, at an eventual date of your chosing - without the need for the switch, which is a single-point-of-failure in itself. What if you don't have access to your switch for example? Pragmatically speaking this is what you want I believe, a permanent solution dependent only on the variable of time, as opposed to your access to a switch.

Hope that helps with the brainstorming.

Thanks for your reply, dragonvslinux.
Unfortunately, your proposed solution doesn't cut it for me.
My family are mostly nocoiners.
Besides, I don't like to set up a transaction to a different address. IMO, the coins shouldn't move if there is no need to cash out.
What I would like to do is send an encrypted email with instructions on redeeming a wallet through its seed - and send it NOW.
The dead man switch I am imagining would just send the key to decrypt the email containing the seed.



2558. Post 53293938 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Price going sideways
but I can't get bored today
even on Sunday



#haiku



2559. Post 53319296 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 11, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator
But the real question is: Who's painting the tape while we observe the wall?



2560. Post 53330382 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

The issue with linux is lack of software in specific domains. It's great for developers, usable for graphics, just not there yet for music.



2561. Post 53330832 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 12, 2019, 06:20:47 PM
How can you trust an OS that wants to "update" itself almost daily? Decentralized open source software is the way to go.
_____

Speaking of which, when will we see an open source mobile OS to run on our ARM devices?

Word! No, I don't mean the Office malware package.




2562. Post 53330862 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 12, 2019, 06:29:22 PM
Solution: switch to linux

I haven't worked on a a Mac since the mid 90's but afaik Macs are now on a Linux kernel so there should be a workaround

It's a Unix of some sort, but it's not linux.



2563. Post 53330939 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Sense of guilt disclosure. I have to confess I do have to use Win10 for some things because reasons, but I'm very sensitive to this topic. A true FOSS OS for mobile is long overdue, but the real issue there is closed source drivers for hardware components. In general, the producers won't release OS drivers or disclose all the specs that would enable OS driver development, so you're left with a phone where the camera works but (insert glitch), WiFi works but (insert different glitch), and so on.

With all the biometrical shit that's going to fall upon our heads, a mobile OS that teams with the owner is going to become a necessity sooner than I'd like. In other parts of the world, it already is.




2564. Post 53338243 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 13, 2019, 07:54:58 AM
My only Apple product was an iPhone. Using it felt like I was a kid locked in a glass house, that had to ask for permission from Daddy to do anything useful, and always had to do it the way Daddy wanted, because "Daddy knows best". Of course, some people like that. Not me.
Occasional use of my buddies' Apple gear was enough for me to feel patronized. Add the extortionate price/value ratio, and I never owned anything Apple.



2565. Post 53338374 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 13, 2019, 09:46:15 AM
I strongly believe that England will come out of this as the winner.
England may, but what about Scotland? Or Northern Ireland?



2566. Post 53344312 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

What would we do without Uncle D?
<3



2567. Post 53345198 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

This is looking bad.



2568. Post 53345328 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 14, 2019, 03:36:44 PM
This is looking bad.

What is??
We're under 7.1k.

Quote
Mic needs a short break  Smiley
So does weary d_eddie. Boozy saturday for Mic? ;-)



2569. Post 53352389 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on December 15, 2019, 12:43:13 PM

R0ach?

The Gr0anch.



2570. Post 53353637 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: bkbirge on December 15, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
Fed up to shenanigans again...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-fed-to-print-425b-for-new-years-3-times-bitcoins-market-cap
Quote
While common, such moves involve conjuring vast new liquidity based on zero backing — essentially money printing without physically printing any money.
Yes we are.
Fed up.



2571. Post 53353753 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Sundays are lazy
'specially when Xmas is nigh
corn indecisive.



2572. Post 53354277 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Now don't start singing YMCA just yet please.



2573. Post 53364420 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Dead, of course.
Ask JJG for confirmation  Tongue



2574. Post 53364744 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 16, 2019, 08:13:03 PM
Dead, of course.
Ask JJG for confirmation  Tongue

Don't be implying that I am like Roger and Richard... or should I say Richard and Roger?  RRtm


Those are the guys (and gal?) who know all things that are worth knowing.   Wink
I just wanted to see Batman doing his thing, ya know... Wink



2575. Post 53364764 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Doubles are preferred.



2576. Post 53368852 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 17, 2019, 03:47:53 AM
-snip-

d_eddie is going to be overdosing with batman slaps.

I did one for him too.  On another thread.    See this one linked here.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Feels good to get it out, doesn't it?

Oh my. That's The-Wall-(of-text)-Above-All! A lengthy battle seasoned with slaps. What more could one wish for?


Quote from: Hueristic on December 17, 2019, 03:08:56 AM
-snip-

This ones for D_eddie!!!



Thanks Hueristic, thanks JJ. It feels good to see the old Bat still doing his thing.



2577. Post 53369625 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):

If anyone deserves to reap any benefit, it must be a superset of these here gentlemen (and ladies, few as they regrettably might be).



2578. Post 53379136 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 17, 2019, 10:29:11 PM
How are your testicles holding up, folks ?

Somewhat cramped, not crushed though. Other than that they are "hoDLing" ok... as always.

We don't need a testicle story from you, again (I have the right guy?  or was it d_eddie?  involving some kind of spray), bitserve.  

That's all we need, like another hole in the head.   Roll Eyes
The spray thing was bitserve's story. Titanium plates are Bawb's. I've never told testicular stories myself, but I'm in constant awe at the words of the BallGame(TM) masters.



2579. Post 53379343 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 17, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
How are your testicles holding up, folks ?
A bit mashed up tbh, but still viable.



2580. Post 53379500 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

MAKE A CHRISTMAS PRESENTS THAT HAS VALUE

Give bitcoin to your dear ones.

If everyone did, we'd have a nice Xmas pumplet on our hands.

SO GET ON WITH SOME SERIOUS GIVING, FOLKS!



2581. Post 53379868 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 18, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
MAKE A CHRISTMAS PRESENTS THAT HAS VALUE

Give bitcoin to your dear ones.

If everyone did, we'd have a nice Xmas pumplet on our hands.

SO GET ON WITH SOME SERIOUS GIVING, FOLKS!

Bad kids get altcoins instead of coal?

Hm, how about some BSV for their BitGo.to wallet?  Tongue

(Our other legend-in-the-making @VB1001 posted details here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53379308#msg53379308 )



2582. Post 53383963 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

On a merit spree, fat finger pulls a double.  Luck of LUCKMCFLY.

Bottom from marcus...  well, my love is Emily.  Icygreen sees red.

bitserve's perspective.  vroom conjures a pump demon, picnic bear spots him.

JayJuanGee concise, as long as the ratt approves.  r0ach keep on r0achin.

#notsundayhaiku  Inspiration: JSRAW.  Thanks for all the fish!




2583. Post 53395470 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 20, 2019, 11:42:02 AM
Christ on a crutch.  Longs are almost 10x shorts on BFX.  This is the most crowded trade on the planet.  But shorts still paying longs on Bitmex.  Wtf is going on.  


I'm unable to make heads or tails of this. Just thinking aloud.

BFX allows for margin trading, but it also works as a conventional USD(T)/Crypto exchange. USD welcome. Max leverage is 3.3.

Bitmex is speculation only. You need btc to trade any crypto there. Max leverage is 100.

Longs/shorts are always 1.0 on bitmex. The funding rate for the swaps (who pays who) is determined by the difference between the spot swap price and the index price (basically an average of a few select "reliable" exchanges).

The population on the two exchanges surely overlaps, but how different is it?

So could we infer that gambling btc owners are still betting on DOWN - shorting the swaps, at least short term - while the general population, or at least tether holders - are more bullish?



2584. Post 53395592 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 20, 2019, 11:49:31 AM
I am searching but still cannot find the ideal place to live a happy life. They either tax your wealth or your income with a rate of %50 which is another form of theft.

Monaco of course. You'll have to double your anticipated wealth to afford a rabbit hutch there and you'll be surrounded by dried out skeletons in Hermes jumpsuits but at least it's benign on the surface.

I once spent all night waiting on a pavement there. The Monegasque pigs weren't very nice to me.

Bringing black company in Monaco, how tasteless. Your fun with the hairpins and the punto. You deserved every bit of it.

Personally, I'd rather pay a reasonable amount of unjustified taxes - wondering how much it might be reckoned to be - than living there.



2585. Post 53395715 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

A RANT.

I really, really hate it when peeps post small print like this. My browser can't keep a line centered while zooming, so I have to zoom/scroll/zoom/scroll.



2586. Post 53396521 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

More volatility at the door. Seatbelts please.



2587. Post 53396818 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

I hate to break it to you, Mic, but the first twitches seem to be heading down  Undecided



2588. Post 53398502 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 20, 2019, 01:29:10 PM
A RANT.

I really, really hate it when peeps post small print like this. My browser can't keep a line centered while zooming, so I have to zoom/scroll/zoom/scroll.


Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 20, 2019, 01:32:42 PM
dude just press the quote button to see what they wrote in small point size

Quote from: fillippone on December 20, 2019, 01:39:01 PM
Are you using windows?
Just highlight the small prints and click right mouse button.
You are welcome.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 20, 2019, 01:46:05 PM
Sorry d_eddie I'll try to never do that again.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 20, 2019, 06:30:06 PM
You must be losing your vision.  I suggest that you buy yourself (for christmas or otherwise) some reading glasses.  You will thank me later. Wink

Thanks V8! It was the most effective piece of advice.

fillippone, even if I highlight and click the right mouse button, I can't see the whole text in the ensuing menu.

xhomerx10, you're a gentleman and I wasn't targeting you in particular with my small rant - rather, I was thinking of some other very nasty guy who apparently has the nerve to suggest I get a pair of glasses. We're beyond glasses here: at such minuscule sizes I'm hitting subpixel resolution issues!  Angry Angry Angry



2589. Post 53398637 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on December 20, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
d_eddie is having early Christmas hangover? 😆
Chill brother 😘
No hangover, but I'm still dizzy from extreme squinting  Angry

Chill? Sure. Soon going to have the first drink in a couple of days. The hangover may or may not follow, though I'm betting on no follow - the plan is tokeep it moderate.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 20, 2019, 07:28:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Mr_Anderson____/status/1208102471526223882
NSFW - xmas titties

V8 almost always has the best stuff.  Cheesy



2590. Post 53399648 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 20, 2019, 11:33:47 PM
xhomerx10, you're a gentleman and I wasn't targeting you in particular with my small rant - rather, I was thinking of some other very nasty guy who apparently has the nerve to suggest I get a pair of glasses. We're beyond glasses here: at such minuscule sizes I'm hitting subpixel resolution issues!  Angry Angry Angry


People sometimes ask whether other people have a problem or whether they have a problem.  

In this case, you are the one with the problem.  Sorry to be the only person frank enough to tell the truth and to break the news.   Cry Everyone else ("we" (royal)) doesn't have no problems with this issue.  In other words, no one else complained. (except just a few peeps here and there)


You are right, they are all assholes for doing that as if we haven't better things to do than having to quote a post just to read it

It would be funny/strange/maybe more efficient in the whole scheme of things to have a BIG wall of text, and hardly even take up the size of an ordinary post.

Testing:
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OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE!



2591. Post 53399692 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

I'm sorry guys. What was I thinking?
 Embarrassed



2592. Post 53399973 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

There was a young girl down in Greece
whose fanny was warm and gave peace
one day she got pox
and since then her box
began to spread war and disease





2593. Post 53402646 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 21, 2019, 12:16:52 PM

The last bar presents the total of all of them, any graph should be carefully observed and read the data, not just looking at the colors. Cheesy

But if this is the norm (I don't know) when I publish the finished graphic, I will remove the totals bar.

thx
Without reading the guide, I guess just using a different color for the total and setting it a bit further apart from the historical series would make the chart much easier to read at a glance.



2594. Post 53403227 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 21, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
mmmkay, I know it's friday and all that shit but if you guys don't vote at my "informal" poll here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg53399555#msg53399555) I will make all the fucking flat sky fall and crush your little rounded heads. I am just trying to help and doing it all for the good of everyone.

Ahaha my friend, trying to hammer sense into flat earther woodheads? It's a hopeless endeavor. Soft trolling is much more fun  Grin



2595. Post 53407386 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 21, 2019, 08:39:29 PM
(09:39:29 PM)
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 21, 2019, 08:49:01 PM
(09:49:01 PM)
all you can eat oysters

My thought exactly!

(First reply, 10 minutes response time. Classic V8.)



2596. Post 53407451 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Hairy takes a pic
half a window enveloped
the bush is burning



Price flat, volume null
he pokes with a stick
but the corn feigns sleep



#haiku



2597. Post 53412331 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2019, 03:57:38 PM
Yeah I have to admit, my GF tried to take the best she could get Cheesy

Once you get a taste of the good life, it's too easy to get spoiled!
Queeen spoiler Mic, clap clap clap  Wink



2598. Post 53412479 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Well at least the good oysters.

(Or All the Seas with Oysters...)



2599. Post 53415642 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Well under 8k
(where we would feel much safer)
come, Bitcoin Santa!



2600. Post 53418301 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 23, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
Hhampuz Topic: FREE MERIT COME FAST BEFORE I RUN OUT [Happy Holidays]

edit: all you have to do is be nice about someone on the forum.

I went there for a bit of pre-Xmas merit whoring and the first name I dropped was yours. Serves you right.



2601. Post 53418947 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 23, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
This is fine

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6WRyGblNs9/?igshid=1ldrpzpunkak

F*** it won't stop will it?



2602. Post 53419014 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 23, 2019, 12:25:47 PM

God damn, I was too late to be a slutty Merit whore.

Late to the party too, but I see you fixed me in the other merit slut thread. Thanks LFC! Smiley



2603. Post 53420856 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: JSRAW on December 23, 2019, 03:09:41 PM
Pure Gold  Grin


https://twitter.com/justChinks/status/1208495070300774400

Sometimes just seeing something isn't quite enough.



2604. Post 53427021 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on December 24, 2019, 08:59:49 AM
Jingle bells, jingle bells,
Jingle all the way.
Oh! what fun it is to ride
In a one horse-dildo sleigh.


FTFY (very very slightly)



2605. Post 53428714 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Bart never sleeps, not even on Christmas Eve...



2606. Post 53429478 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 24, 2019, 04:59:53 PM

Is that Mary with a beard?

Like mother, like son.



2607. Post 53430089 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 24, 2019, 05:17:04 PM

 Hey!  I don't wear yoga shoes.

I'll grant the benefit of doubt on this one, but maybe she designs hats?



2608. Post 53434950 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

** MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL WO SIBLINGS! **

And greetings to non siblings too (r0ach, gembits, cryptopians, etc.). Additional greetings if they stop pissing in our pool!



2609. Post 53435007 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 25, 2019, 07:01:32 AM

"The price of any commodity tends to gravitate toward the production cost. If the price is below cost, then production slows down. If the price is above cost, profit can be made by generating and selling more." -- Satoshi Nakamoto

Yeah, right, show me any currency that "gravitate toward the production cost".

A currency is generally backed by a police force and an army, so it doesn't match the definition for a commodity.



2610. Post 53438974 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 25, 2019, 07:22:54 PM

"The price of any commodity tends to gravitate toward the production cost. If the price is below cost, then production slows down. If the price is above cost, profit can be made by generating and selling more." -- Satoshi Nakamoto

Yeah, right, show me any currency that "gravitate toward the production cost".

A currency is generally backed by a police force and an army, so it doesn't match the definition for a commodity.

The bolivar disagrees.

And it's approaching its production cost indeed.



2611. Post 53439956 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 25, 2019, 04:22:12 PM


Even after pimping up - or vandalising in your own words - the place can't beat some of your earlier buen retiro locations.






2612. Post 53445776 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

But if it is settled in physical btc, the manipulation can only go on until payment's due.



2613. Post 53449189 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 26, 2019, 09:02:02 PM
But if it is settled in physical btc, the manipulation can only go on until payment's due.

They roll over the paper in house.

There's been tons of stuff written on it and actually that deleted vid by that stoner dude did a good job of explaining it if you google the words he used.

the chimp getting deplatformed is a really bad sign

+1 Bad

I've seen the chimp before he was floored and doored. He was referenced here. (Was it you jojo?)

Too bad I can't recall specific words to search by.  I wasn't actually paying too much attention. Vague recollection: a mechanism with many "arms" (but still needing a base in the corn). The explanation was technical but scattered.  Didn't sound impossible at all.

IOW - What's this roll over paper in the house business about? How does it work ELI12?



2614. Post 53449330 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Boxing welcome haiku

One that got away (Christmas in the Philippines): next time, whose parents?



2615. Post 53452215 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 27, 2019, 05:02:57 AM

I've seen the chimp before he was floored and doored. He was referenced here. (Was it you jojo?)

Too bad I can't recall specific words to search by.  I wasn't actually paying too much attention. Vague recollection: a mechanism with many "arms" (but still needing a base in the corn). The explanation was technical but scattered.  Didn't sound impossible at all.

IOW - What's this roll over paper in the house business about? How does it work ELI12?



https://www.ccn.com/interview-wall-street-vet-warns-of-ice-bringing-bad-banking-practices-to-crypto/

You can also bet your bottom dollar they will be rehypothecating assets.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rehypothecation.asp

Ah, thanks for the hint Hueristic! What the chimp provided was an elaborate description of rehypothecation. Entirely possible indeed.



2616. Post 53454831 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 27, 2019, 04:29:53 PM
Anyone need a computer upgrade?  I'm available.

I’ll take a wallet.dat upgrade.

If you could just replace mine with a new file containing 10,000BTC that’d be great, thanks.

You know, when you initialize a Trezor or Ledger, the generated seed could theoretically belong to someone else's wallet. Just imagine initializing your brand new Trezor and finding it already contains 10,000 BTC. Just imagine the feeling!  Shocked

Of course, the probability of this happening is near-zero, but still non-zero, so one can dream...

Of course, there is still the same nonzero probability of some other lucky guy initializing his own device to the same seed as your newly acquired wealth, so one can have nightmares as well.



2617. Post 53463242 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Millionero on December 28, 2019, 03:57:56 PM
So apparently, CSWcoin is going to hardfork in the near future. Said hardfork includes the fantastic idea of basically stealing people's unclaimed BTC, which means, if you didn't claim your BSV, those coins will be "confiscated" by CSW-Ayre's mining operation (which I presume are the only people mining the thing). This also includes that satoshi's "1 million" coins will be stolen. According to raw calculations, they'll get $85million. I mean, it's not a lot, but still, this has to be a joke right? am I taking crazy pills? How is people unironically supporting such thing at this point?

I assume most here didn't even bother claiming the coins. I mean, it's such a pain claiming a forked coins, you have to do much for so little, but I don't appreciate CSW getting free money, but still, I may just don't bother.

If this is not the case, correct me if im wrong on the whole thing, but that is what I extracted from what I've read.

Can you link to highlighted, please?
Apart from rumors, i haven' seen anything solid, as it would be very weird.




Gmaxwell did address this on bsv subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/edr0av/massive_replay_theft_coming_to_a_scamchain_near/

And official bsv page says:

https://bitcoinsv.io/2019/12/23/bitcoin-sv-blocking-potential-p2sh-replay-attack-after-genesis-hard-fork/

Quote
Mitigation

In response, the Bitcoin SV Node team will update the “Genesis” hard fork specification by upgrading the rule rejecting the P2SH script pattern from a policy rule to a consensus rule.  That is the specific script template “OP_HASH160 <hash> OP_EQUAL” will not be allowed in new outputs and this rule will be directly implemented in the Bitcoin SV Node software.  Whilst unfortunate to restrict the usage of a particular script pattern, we note that the same effect can be achieved using variations of the script pattern e.g. “OP_SHA256 OP_RIPEMD160 <hash> OP_EQUAL”.

This change closes the attack vector and mitigates the need for honest miners to forcibly reject blocks containing theft transactions.  Whilst this could have triggered a valuable demonstration of the principle of honest miners acting punitively against dishonest miners, the public disclosure by Mr. Maxwell raises the potential cost to those miners to an unacceptable level.

Note: The theory is that it is argued if there were any "mistakes" here, and stealing funds was always part of the plan, they just got caught by gmaxwell.

I don't understand any of this.  I read the subreddit linked above.  Which coins might be stolen if the worst happens?  What does it mean for those of us who have bitcoins stored in segwit addresses and "compatibile" (starting with 3) addresses?


You can lose newly hardforked BSV. You would keep the "old" BSV, admitting there's any miner left at all on the old chain.



2618. Post 53463462 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

mindrust, don't invest more than you're ready to lose.

Don't want to sound like a bear or a party poop as someone would say - I'm far from both positions as should be clear to anyone following this thread - but hard times do happen, it's best to be "pee pared" as the same someone would put it ;-)

TL;DR don't overdo it. DCA with the occasional BTFD spree is fine.



2619. Post 53463767 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 28, 2019, 06:16:20 PM
Just watching ‘Take Me Out’.

It’s a UK dating show.

Look what one of the girls is called, perfect for our very own.....

We all know he loves a woman of colour Wink



She doesn't look like a jew, so I'm not sure r0ach's mama would approve.
I could take one for the team if it comes to that.



2620. Post 53463780 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: makrospex on December 28, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
Thank you heslo and somac, Fuck you makrospex.

huh?
WTF?!
We all three said the same: Set it to zero.
 Huh
You didn't spoon feed him and were late with the details  Roll Eyes



2621. Post 53464104 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 28, 2019, 06:57:39 PM


Well shit, that is gonna fuck my recommended all up now.



I think you can delete individuals from your history

Funny I googled how to do that and noscript blocked the google cross site script.

Quote
NoScript detected a potential Cross-Site Scripting attack

from https://startpage.com to https://support.google.com.

Suspicious data:

(URL) https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6342839?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en

The ones that went "don't be evil"...  Angry

BTW, startpage is my goto search engine these days. Better than the duck for me. I like the way it lets you save preferences without cookies: They can be encoded in a custom (anonymous of course) search URL.



2622. Post 53464158 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 28, 2019, 07:10:19 PM
There is a formula (Klein criterion-see wiki) which describes the % of portfolio one should dedicate to a bet.
The problem is-it involves assigning a probability to a trade success, which is almost always an impossible task.
Example: on a trade with 60% success one should invest 20% of the portfolio; trade with 70% success, 40% of portfolio, etc, etc.
Mind you, these %% are "real" numbers, not imaginary ones.
Also, NO MARGIN.

EDIT:
Formula...Fraction of portfolio to invest (in decimals)=[2X(chance of trade success in decimals)]-1
Therefore, 0% to invest when 50:50 (or lower) and 100% to invest when 100% chance of success.
Everything else-in between.

Actually, at 50:50 Klein says "invest nothing", right - but if the odds are under 50-50, the Klein criterion suggest the opposite bet should be taken, with an amount again determined by the formula you quoted (it will come out as a negative fraction).

Example: on a bet with 40:60 odds (that's less than 0.5), the criterion suggests 2 * (0.40) - 1 = 0.8 - 1 = -0.2,
that is, invest 20% on the OPPOSITE bet (if anything like that exists).



2623. Post 53464270 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: Globb0 on December 28, 2019, 07:39:15 PM
CSW fork steal accident is conveniently timed close to the don't know when he will get the keys to the secret locked up money.


Hmmmm   I wonder.

If he hopes to gather what he owes by dumping BSV2 or whatever it's called, he's in for some disappointment.  Grin



2624. Post 53464807 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: ðºÞæ on December 28, 2019, 07:58:41 PM
"q......." Bitcoin Cash, not Bitcoin address
"A......." Bitcoin Gold, not Bitcoin address
"bc1..." SegWit, not Bitcoin address
"d......." Bitcoin Diamond, not Bitcoin address
"R......" Bitcoin Rhodium, not Bitcoin address
"3......" BitcoinHD, not Bitcoin address
"0x... " Bitcoin Hex, not Bitcoin address
....

"ð..." /r/btc, not bitcointalk



2625. Post 53465006 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

... or hat club members who feel like taking the piss

O:-)



2626. Post 53465012 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

They stole the green color from me! It was my idea! After inventing bitcoin and bcash, I invented green as a logo background!!



2627. Post 53465525 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Two thousand twenty
will give us an all time high
I have a vision!



#haiku



2628. Post 53483953 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 30, 2019, 05:34:56 PM
time for a traditional Russian sauna (Banya) to bring in the new year!

is that the kind where you drink vodka and they slap you with sprigs of evergreen?
Birch, right?



2629. Post 53486856 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 31, 2019, 06:04:15 AM
Critic: Nothing backs Bitcoin.

Bitcoiner: What backs the dollar? Cheesy

Critic: An army on the outside and police on the inside.
Such backing is hard to dismiss.

Bitcoiner: Mathematics. Harder still.


(Just playing devil's advocate.)



2630. Post 53487664 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):




2631. Post 53498148 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on December 10, 2019, 09:01:00 PM


Does it mean "justice requires weapons"?  If so, it should be "armas".



2632. Post 53498178 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Maybe Bargain Boyz wishing for New Year shopping?



2633. Post 53500572 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on January 02, 2020, 04:57:09 AM


Does it mean "justice requires weapons"?  If so, it should be "armas".

 I don't think arma is a first declension noun.  I'm pretty sure it would follow the same declension (2nd) as bellum in the plural form (one of the only declensions I remember well from high school Latin)
The accusative pl. would be 'bella'.  I'm pretty sure the motto is fine the way it is.  I mean if I was a betting man...  Wink


You're right, xhomerx10 and Arriemoller. I stand corrected.

It is actually a plural-only noun, neuter gender, second declension.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arma#Latin




2634. Post 53518719 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 03, 2020, 03:17:21 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214437.msg53505850#msg53505850

^

For those who missed.....

Cheers

Ohh Mic at it again with his generous games! Thank you micgoosssens!
And thanks for reposting the announcement. I'd missed it at first.



2635. Post 53520776 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: mindrust on January 04, 2020, 07:06:08 PM
Why would they make a KYC law only for BTC?

Maybe because btc is easier to conceal or move than money in banks or other paper assets.



2636. Post 53521124 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on January 04, 2020, 08:09:50 PM
BTW, if you make all those accounts on a single Trezor, they are all connected anyway.

how they are connected from the outside view? you generate 1000 addresses for 1 BTC and split it to 0.001 on every single address with WasabiWallet for example.

I will consider all costs against the hypothetical benefit in the future.

I think 1000 .001 btc addresses is overkill. The idea suggested by bitserve makes more sense to me. I'd make 4 addresses, 250 mbtc each. Or split one of them recursively:

1/2, 1/4, 1/8, .... , 1/n, 1/n (the last two addresses get the same amount).

You would have plenty of granularity this way.



2637. Post 53522238 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

The triangle tip
leads into a nice bart up
Jojo: TA, yaaaay!


#haiku



2638. Post 53522273 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

I want to see some VOLUME before I'm sold.



2639. Post 53522278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Indeed. Momentum is what we need IMO, and that requires volume. Moar volume!



2640. Post 53524938 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: makrospex on January 05, 2020, 10:33:40 AM
I hope i made myself clear, don't try to read between the lines, there's just empty space to find  Wink

That's just because you're a German speaker  Tongue Tongue Tongue



2641. Post 53526052 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Corn drifting upwards
doesn't look like a pumplet
but it's good action.




#haiku



2642. Post 53543874 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

No need to hurry
Slow and steady wins the race
This will, gentlemen.



#haiku



2643. Post 53545861 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Do we choose fuckery or verlakkerij?



2644. Post 53548192 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

My gut's telling me
I don't have a single clue
SOMA says: hodl.





#haiku



2645. Post 53548688 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: jupiter9 on January 08, 2020, 12:25:13 AM
the planet jupiter is the planet of luck and expanding knowledge.

I'm friends with Venus.

https://www.horoscope.com/us/horoscopes/yearly/2020-horoscope-overview.aspx
Quote
Money-focused Venus moves into air sign Gemini in early June, presenting some prime moneymaking opportunities. Be practical, don't waver, and keep your eye on the prize.

What might that hint to? I've no idea  Huh



2646. Post 53551510 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 08, 2020, 09:39:58 AM
Of course I appreciatie that but cannot escape the notion that the highest appreciation a writer can give his readers is by making his points clear and concise. A ‘lazy’ writer won’t attract a crowd.
Writing short is a difficult art to master. Harder than writing well IMO. It could be argued that "excellent writing" is a subset of "short writing".

Quote
By no means meant as an attack.
Oh noez. Nevah.



2647. Post 53551546 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 08, 2020, 08:57:31 AM
https://medium.com/block-digest-mempool/the-next-decade-6f8033ff7d2a?

I have written and published the first piece, a massive 30 minute read on the next decade of Bitcoin inspired by Brian Armstrong's garbage Nakamoto piece. I can't finish until tomorrow, but I will publish it broken into pieces as well. (Medium post limits)

Yes it's long, but it's also broad and deep

Where's the longish piece? I didn't find a link in the twitter thread, but maybe I'm just being slow.



2648. Post 53551668 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: jupiter9 on January 08, 2020, 09:01:00 AM
the planet jupiter is the planet of luck and expanding knowledge.

I'm friends with Venus.

https://www.horoscope.com/us/horoscopes/yearly/2020-horoscope-overview.aspx
Quote
Money-focused Venus moves into air sign Gemini in early June, presenting some prime moneymaking opportunities. Be practical, don't waver, and keep your eye on the prize.

What might that hint to? I've no idea  Huh
Venus is not money maker. Venus is the planet of beauty and harmony. Don't listen to astro predictions from the local newspaper or popular websites because they don't work. If you want to do that you need a personalized prediction to make prediction only for you, based on your date and hour of your birth. Even minutes of your birth are very important. Every major leader in the history had a personal astrologer. That's why they made something in their life, because of the knowledge. Others have to be lucky or to really put 100x more effort.

Wrong answer, sorry. Think harder.



2649. Post 53551967 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on January 08, 2020, 12:24:06 PM
I like what Trump is doing and I hope he does more of it.
He's sowing war. It will be a bitter harvest. Who's going to reap the whirlwind? Not the lucky 0.1%.



2650. Post 53552579 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 08, 2020, 01:02:25 PM
https://medium.com/block-digest-mempool/the-next-decade-6f8033ff7d2a?

I have written and published the first piece, a massive 30 minute read on the next decade of Bitcoin inspired by Brian Armstrong's garbage Nakamoto piece. I can't finish until tomorrow, but I will publish it broken into pieces as well. (Medium post limits)

Yes it's long, but it's also broad and deep

Where's the longish piece? I didn't find a link in the twitter thread, but maybe I'm just being slow.
Not slow but bereft of geese maybe.
You quoted the link, it's up there^ and upwards in the twitter thread too.

Ungoosed and slow.
Thanks for waking me up.
That's a good read. It left a dreamy smile on my face.



2651. Post 53554697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

The last two significant movements (bart up/bart down on the hourly) have almost perfectly matched volume. I'd hoped for some asymmetry with larger activity on the leading edge (bart up). Vegeta back to snoozing.



2652. Post 53554706 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Losing the 8ks? Bargain boyz emulator ON. BTD!



2653. Post 53554783 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

I mostly agree, but the weekend might still have some spare fuel to burn with the reduced liquidity, so the odd pumperino can never be ruled out. Ohh her wanton ways...



2654. Post 53554792 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 08, 2020, 05:35:14 PM
https://medium.com/block-digest-mempool/the-next-decade-6f8033ff7d2a?

I have written and published the first piece, a massive 30 minute read on the next decade of Bitcoin inspired by Brian Armstrong's garbage Nakamoto piece. I can't finish until tomorrow, but I will publish it broken into pieces as well. (Medium post limits)

Yes it's long, but it's also broad and deep

Where's the longish piece? I didn't find a link in the twitter thread, but maybe I'm just being slow.

By the way, did you try clicking on the medium.com link immediately above the twitter link in your above quoted text?



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I deserve this  Cry



2655. Post 53556476 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

The war of 8k.



2656. Post 53557225 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Still fighting for 8k.



2657. Post 53561065 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on January 09, 2020, 11:26:05 AM



Alev full circle
"Private keys to a million"
From shill to scammer






#haiku




2658. Post 53561115 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2020, 08:15:49 AM
I was tempted to introduce them into the concept of Sats and pull out the gold kilogram vs. ounce (or gram) comparison. I didn't do it for my own sake.
Would have been like teaching a turtle how to ride a donkey  Grin

I fully understand you!
(I've learned that it's not healthy to assume a certain level of comprehension, especially in the "real world".)
Because there's quite a chance you may have more success with the turtle...


It is possible
strapping turtles to horses
can't strap nocoiners.




#haiku



2659. Post 53561697 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

We lost 7.9k too. Not to worry too much as long as we don't reenter the downward channel.

Sideways it is.



2660. Post 53563660 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 09, 2020, 06:08:43 PM
El?
are you tryna tell us something?

He's not into the who brevity thing?


Who is mic?
If you’re talking about the artist formerly known as micgoossens sadly he was lost in a boating accident.

MicG went to the deepest depths known to bottom dwellers looking for his lost corn, and came back possessed by a joint-smoking California slacker.

Mister Lebowski
Wait, let me explain something
I'm not Lebowski.

You are Lebowski.
I'm the dude, you know uh uh..
Or his dudeness...

Or duder you know,
Or El duderino if,
you're not into the

whole brevity thing,
damn this started  way better,
as it ended lol


You've made a long way
in the depths of haiku art
have my last merit!




2661. Post 53570211 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 10, 2020, 02:50:57 PM
Serbian duffers build +73dBm on 2M, then feed that into a 4x6 stacked Yagi array for an ERP of 60000W !

https://www.qsl.net/y/yu1aw/Misc/qro%20pa%20gu36b-1.pdf

who says retirement can't be fun?

It can be lots of fun if she helps!



2662. Post 53570268 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Stacking sats in my sleep. Wake me up at 8.5k. Yawn.



2663. Post 53571002 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 10, 2020, 03:40:19 PM
Is there something? Do I need to let my GF make further purchases ??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

When I decide to give up my virginity some lucky lady will be receiving one of these.



I cringe at imagining just where and how the poor lady will be receiving it.



2664. Post 53572488 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on January 10, 2020, 08:48:09 PM

Your nerdiness isnt a question at this point, its well established.  Kiss Now do what you do best and get back to sifting through girly travel instagram pics for some cool poser pics to impress people who cant right click.  Cheesy

Let's not be too kind to the relevant instaslut with inappropriate words such as "girly". I bet she's over 45.



2665. Post 53572645 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on January 10, 2020, 09:09:55 PM
Id guess true age at 38-41 range, but who knows how advanced Ho-Filter AI is these days, she might be 55.  Roll Eyes

She din use no filter on her hand did she.



2666. Post 53592540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 12, 2020, 04:41:15 PM
Crypto Derivatives Exchange FTX Launched Bitcoin Options Trading

Quote
Cryptocurrency derivatives exchange FTX has launched Bitcoin (BTC) options trading on Jan. 11.

FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried announced in a tweet yesterday that options were listed on the trading platform. Furthermore, later the same day he also claimed that options trading volume on the exchange reached $1 million in about 2 hours.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-derivatives-exchange-ftx-launched-bitcoin-options-trading


Haven't looked this up
settled in cash, I wager...
useless Wall Street trash?




#haiku



2667. Post 53598386 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Arthur Hayes on options. What is implied is that futures and swaps are better for traders: Bitmex is doing it right.
This is only an excerpt. The whole piece is worthy of reading.

https://blog.bitmex.com/when-options-part-1/



Quote
Strike one! Traders will always do what is easiest if they can generate the same return profile.

Crypto volatility is very high. We are currently in a low volatility regime and 30 day realised volatility is around 40%. When pricing an option, the higher the volatility the more expensive the call or put. Therefore, option buyers, the speculators, must post high amounts of capital to obtain convex trades. In order to be cheaper than the BitMEX XBTUSD perpetual swap, the most liquid crypto derivatives product, the premium must be less than 1%. That is not possible when the underlying asset has such a high realised volatility.

Strike two! Traders will always gravitate to the product with the most leverage.

Market makers, I haven’t forgotten about you. For every buyer there is a seller. Writing options is a tough business. If the volatility is high, margin requirements for writers of options will be very expensive. Market makers must be able to write naked options while quoting. Writing naked call options on an asset that popped 40% in a few hours when Xi Jinping mentioned the word “blockchain” is risky. As a result, the margining systems employed by various platforms are extremely conservative.

The same set of crypto market makers quote crypto delta one and options products. They must decide how to allocate their capital. If the option requires more capital due to margin requirements and has less flow because it’s less understood and offers less leverage, they will provide less liquidity. If the brave speculator turns up to trade an option and you can drive a Tesla pickup truck through the spread, she will hightail it back to XBTUSD.

Strike three, and you are out! Traders prefer the liquid to the illiquid derivative.

I hope you enjoyed a nice primer on the crypto derivatives market structure and why delta one products will be preferred to options by speculators.



2668. Post 53613332 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 15, 2020, 11:23:48 AM


LoL

Quote from: JSRAW on January 15, 2020, 11:28:57 AM
So Ball tempering is not @bitserve's trade mark.....

... or Bawb's, official founder of BTC  (Ball Training Club).



2669. Post 53615318 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 15, 2020, 06:13:38 PM

https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1217262675262087168


Who are the chicks in the pic?



2670. Post 53615585 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Hm... and could the dark haired one be Meltem?



2671. Post 53621066 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

... or go down the drain before that, if they fail to match btc's adoption or recognition history.



2672. Post 53623458 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 16, 2020, 03:28:53 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53615001#msg53615001

7 pages of this photo and nobody saw the WO, just come to the girls. Cheesy

The WO sign is so prominent in the foreground that it seemed to need no additional highlight (especially here).  Relevant crypto women, on the other hand, are rare enough, so the two visible chicks made me curious. I wondered if they're just random bimbos with photoshopped bodies or actual significant voices in the choir.



2673. Post 53623827 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 16, 2020, 03:56:58 PM
....... the real value of the BTC is definitely BTC+BCH+BSV (+BTG and other offsprings), so they say, which is at least true for unclaimed coins mined before the chainsplit(s).......

Seems like a real erroneous way of thinking about these matters.

Who fucking cares if some coins share a transactional history with bitcoin?  It is nearly irrelevant.  It does not mean much if anything in terms of actual value.  We should have learned that, after the bcash fork.

I think @makrospex's assessment is correct.  Consider the difference in value between btc in addresses that haven't moved since before the bch fork and btc minted today.  You can still extract BCH, BSV, BTG, and so on from the former, but not from the latter.

Which of course doesn't imply bcash & co. are more than altcoins.



2674. Post 53623903 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on January 16, 2020, 05:50:38 PM
You must be a faggot, didn't you say when you first appeared, that the offer is on limited time, and once expired you would go - never to be seen again?

How are we supposed to trust you, you toothless faggot?
(don't get confident now, I was just making a point)



Hard sarcastic blow!
Toothless faggot delivers...


...better you-know-whats




#haiku

TL;DR Being toothless can be a selling point sometimes.



2675. Post 53623915 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: VB1001 on January 16, 2020, 06:22:05 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53615001#msg53615001

7 pages of this photo and nobody saw the WO, just come to the girls. Cheesy

The WO sign is so prominent in the foreground that it seemed to need no additional highlight (especially here).  

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure it went unnoticed, if someone had commented, I would have won 1 sM.

I didn't merit you only because I'm short, and you're well above 1k already! Smiley



2676. Post 53623930 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 16, 2020, 06:28:59 PM
Who is US ? Your headmates ?

Or the United States (to inflate USD just a little bit more)?  Grin



2677. Post 53624494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):

Quote from: kurious on January 16, 2020, 06:57:53 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53615001#msg53615001

7 pages of this photo and nobody saw the WO, just come to the girls. Cheesy

The WO sign is so prominent in the foreground that it seemed to need no additional highlight (especially here).  Relevant crypto women, on the other hand, are rare enough, so the two visible chicks made me curious. I wondered if they're just random bimbos with photoshopped bodies or actual significant voices in the choir.

From V8, somewhere out in the ether:


"The one on the left with no clothes on is Leah Wald
https://twitter.com/LeahWald

and the one in the yellow is Elizabeth Stark
https://twitter.com/starkness


Leah Wald (@LeahWald) | Twitter
The latest Tweets from Leah Wald (@LeahWald). Entrepreneur x #Bitcoin Enthusiast | Co-founder of @Veterati | fmr Economist at @WorldBank | Writer for @Forbes | Partner at Lucid Investments. Singapore

elizabeth stark (@starkness) | Twitter
The latest Tweets from elizabeth stark (@starkness). big fan of the internet. like building things. cofounder @lightning labs, fellow @coincenter. taught @stanford + @yalelawtech. sf + brooklyn"
Thanks for the relaying, kurious. It seems V8 is able to deliver even from the asteroid belt.



2678. Post 53714859 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Quote from: martyMC on January 24, 2020, 10:00:17 PM
A deflationary currency in an inflationary economic model should increase in value infinitum.
Why Bitcoin would be indefinitely deflationary?  Huh I don't understand.
It was deflationary only because its price and its market were growing. But now that almost everyone on earth has heard of it, there is no reason for growing and being deflationary anymore.

That's NOT what it means to be deflationary.
It is deflationary because the unit number is limited to 21 mil max issued and that number is already smaller and decreasing because of the losses (lost wallet, thrown away hard drive, etc.). Lost bitcoin is not being replaced. In time, total number of accessible units will be declining, hence deflationary.
However, right now it is still mildly inflationary. Currently, btc inflation is about 3.6% on a yearly basis, will drop to less than 1.8% in May.
If it's still "inflationary" as you said, it doesn't explain its growth then.
The rate of inflation matters. Compare btc's with fiat's and you'll see. Or maybe you won't.



2679. Post 53717623 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Masterluc sez we're going down.

Quote
I think the rebound is over, we can still visit the weekly ma200 @5261



2680. Post 53726506 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Official inflation figures are mostly cooked. We're well above the 2% they all like to boast about.



2681. Post 53735060 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Quote from: dragonvslinux on January 29, 2020, 09:44:19 PM
So to answer the enormous question on everyone's minds right now, is it a block halving or block halvening? Google claims that more users are interested in the halving, rather than the halvening, regardless of the latter's grammatical incorrectness. It's safe to assume that Google's user's do not care of grammatical correctness. More relevantly, searches for the halving event recently reached an all time high. Searches for the halvening didn't reach all time high.



Suggestion: Let's roll with the grammatically incorrect phrasing of the block halving, rather than halvening, for the benefit of google searches.
(Even my spell checker wants to call it the halving, take the hint)

halvening, halving?
the same search - but google gets
to know YOU better





#tinfoil



2682. Post 53740391 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 30, 2020, 06:53:21 PM
Bleh. Not excited the very least yet. We have been here a fucking ton of times already.

I’ll wake you up at $15,000?
Eagerly waiting for that landmark to change my hat. I'm getting sick of it TBH.
Homer's latest ("V8's Greta") is making me a bit jealous.



2683. Post 53740622 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Quote from: makrospex on January 30, 2020, 07:27:57 PM
Yesterday marked 29 days since I quit all intake, and a home drug test still showed me testing positive for THC.

Will re-test in a couple weeks. It's a mind-over-matter thing for me to test clean before deciding to partake again. Pleasantly surprised that I did not experience a single withdrawal symptom, but I'll write that off as a bonus side-effect of the other meds I'm taking, as a mitigating factor.

So much for taking 28 days to clear out of your system.

28 days?
Scratch that.

It depends on your metabolism, method of testing and amount and duration of intake. I only experienced withdrawal symptoms after quitting/pausing weed when i was young and smoking it with tobacco. Life without weed wasn't any better nor any worse, but i just always really liked it and been a part-time stoner since age 16.
On topic: Expect up to eight weeks to "fully" clear out in the urine, which means levels of thc metabolites to fall under detection treshold.

Indeed. I am a moderate/social consumer these days, and tested clean 10 days after use.

As for the withdrawal symptoms, I agree in blaming tobacco for that. Nicotine is seriously addictive, and what's worse it creeps on you almost unnoticed - especially for those who think they're only craving weed. I have several such friends: they quit smoking pure tobacco (or weren't smokers in the first place), but they do use it regularly with weed. "It makes the taste rounder" "It maker for an easier toke" and so on is what they say. IMO, they're addicts and they don't even know.



2684. Post 53741070 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

@jojo welcome to the tinfoil club!



2685. Post 53741097 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):

Imagine all the people
queuing for hookers & blow...



2686. Post 53742484 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Not going to waste my last sM on legends or quasi-legends, but at least some WOsM is due. Here's a helping of noteworthy posts, in no particular order. A complement to JSRAW's work for people catching up, and a tip of the hat to Toxic.



Quote from: Globb0 on January 30, 2020, 10:18:28 PM
Man, I cant end this post cleverly.
You do that a lot when posting in humor - but this time you aren't.
+1


Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 30, 2020, 07:40:24 PM


edit https://twitter.com/JackMallers/status/1222941238279708674?s=20
One of the reasons to check the WO at least once in a while - V8's findings... (This is one of the most bullish among recent posts IMO.) (Did I mention nice outfit BTW?)
+1


Quote from: HI-TEC99 on January 31, 2020, 12:40:51 AM
There's a thread listing the banks that hate Bitcoin the most. Fortunately there's still a few in it that will do business with bitcoiners.

List of Bitcoin Hostile (and friendly) Banks
... or other nuggets of practical, useful info.
+1


Quote from: El duderino_ on January 31, 2020, 02:45:58 AM
WOW...The dude is getting wise beyond his years... for some strange reason...

The dude abides, the dude got his moments.... seawaves and sea smells tingling the nostrils only better writing can follow
30y in the rearview mirror and dudes turn into poets, even. With some help from a few cervezinhas maybe.
+1


Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 31, 2020, 02:54:17 AM
What I mean is... And I think you may be able to answer it.... WHAT IS NEED, JJG?

1) Since I am not a bot, I need air in order to live.

2) I need to make another $1,000 before the end of the month, otherwise I am getting evicted.

3) in order to make "fuck you" status, in accounting for my other assets, anticipated income and anticipated expenses, I need to attain the value of a sustainable amount of between $1.5 million and $2 million in my bitcoin holdings.
Bitserve tries to unleash the wordy monster, but the bot breathes air and keeps it reasonable.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 31, 2020, 03:19:07 AM
To be honest I expected a more detailed answer from you.
I: I "need" x amount of bitcoin for hooker a, b and c

II:  I "need" y amount  of bitcoin for lambo d, e and f

III:  I need z amount of bitcoin for blow quantities m, n and o

-snip-

you are harassing me (aka trolling me)

Probably money does not buy happiness, but it is sure nice if you do not have to worry about doing certain kinds of work, but it seems that if you hire someone to do it, then you have other problems... takes a while to gain trust, even if you have someone to help you out... because sometimes they will end up coming into your space.. so then you need BIGGER space for them to NOT cross into your space.. but then you draw attention to yourself for how much space and nice things that you have, so then you feel like you cannot have so many nice things because you might get robbed, or $5 wrench attacked.

So, the balance is tough, and probably just have to be happy with what you got.. even the managing of how much to pay person 1, 2, or 3, but then if person 3 is helping you with your finances, then they know too much?  Maybe it is more helpful to get rich when you are younger, and then you have more time to adapt to not adding too many things too quickly?   Start out with a personal assistant? Maybe I don't really need a personal assistant?
He tries again. The ensuing reply is deservedly longer and makes a lot of sense. Personal space, things, wealth, services - be it housekeeping, security, or stress release.

+1 for the trolling @bitserve
+1 for the sense @JJG





2687. Post 53745943 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 31, 2020, 06:17:17 AM
One of the reasons to check the WO at least once in a while - V8's findings... (This is one of the most bullish among recent posts IMO.) (Did I mention nice outfit BTW?)
+1


Didn't get that.
The article talks to me like I am a child.
Where is bitcoin there, exactly?
AFAIU, Strike has a LN node, you simply deposit cash from your bank account or debit card into Strike (as a prepay?), strike then "takes" your cash, 'virtually' exchanges it for btc in their "channels", use their channels to pay your LN invoice, debits your cash. They interact with btc, you don't (for payment). Is it a "good thing"? I dunno. Maybe I misunderstood their setup, but what exactly the following means?
Quote
Bank accounts and debit cards can now speak to nodes all over the world, and nodes all over the world can now speak to bank accounts and debit cards.

Apart from the simplistic language, there is some substance here it seems.

You can buy and sell btc through Strike. One more on/offramp can't be bad, even admitting functionality isn't at the top.

Although the service requires fiat custody in the shape of a bank account or debit card, it is noncustodial from a btc angle: if you buy btc, they go to your wallet rather than staying in your Strike account.

If selling, the fiat goes to your Strike balance. I assume it is reasonably easy to cash out in the case of a bank account. It might be trickier to cash out in the case of a debit card but hey, you can use the fiat for any payments anyway - not only Strike payments.

It actually uses btc as the underlying technology for value transfer.

Their story about the cannabis store in Colorado is a good example of easing payments in that grey area where credit cards and banks often refuse service. Depending on how anonymous QR codes or LN invoices can be, this is a good shot at uncensorable payments.

As a seller, you can opt to convert the payment in cash 100% - keeping volatility risk to a minimum - or 0%, getting your btc secured by your own wallet, your own keys - or any amount in between.

Looks big to me. I'm hoping it takes off and invites imitation and competition in what can be a profitable business line.



2688. Post 53745963 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 31, 2020, 02:57:49 PM
2 girls 1 cup-n-handle

A new twist to the expression "party pooper"?



2689. Post 53758478 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: hv_ on February 02, 2020, 02:15:39 PM
i m here for Bitcoin, the one Satoshi designed for us.

Verify, don't trust!
Humungous 8-lane blockchain?
Can't do that at home.




#haiku



2690. Post 53759321 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

China will print ~170M$ on Monday. The inflow rate into btc won't be so high as with tether probably, but it can't be too bad for the badger either. SOMA analytics summary: a measurable blip up is due.



2691. Post 53764219 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: mladen00 on February 03, 2020, 12:49:51 PM
interesting:
How the Chinese cheated the whole world with the virus
According to Faktxeber, China used interesting economic tactics, circled everyone’s finger and earned more than $ 20 billion in a couple of days. Plus, it returned about 30% of the shares of its own monopolies.
Xi Jinping fooled the EU and America, and how beautiful! Before the eyes of the whole world he played everything, as if by notes.
Previously, part of the shares of technology companies belonged to foreign investors, Americans and Europeans - this means that almost half of the revenues from the heavy and chemical industries went not to the treasury of China, but to the accounts of "financial sharks" in Europe.
Due to the situation in Wuhan, the yuan began to plummet, but the Central Bank did nothing to support the yuan.
There were even rumors that China simply did not have masks to fight the coronovirus.
These rumors and statements by Xi Jinping that he is ready and will protect the people of Wuhan led to a large drop in the price of shares of Chinese technology companies, and the "financial sharks" began to put up for sale shares until they completely depreciated.
Xi Jinping waited all week and only smiled at press conferences, and when the price fell below the plinth, he gave the command to sharply buy up shares from all Europeans and Americans at the same time.
Until these “financial sharks" realized that they were circled around their finger, it was too late: the shares were in the hands of the PRC. Not only has China earned more than $ 20 billion over these days, but it has also returned the shares of its companies to China.
Now, income from technology and chemistry will not go abroad, but will remain in China, the yuan rises by itself, and China’s gold and foreign exchange reserves do not need to be spent on its support, and the “financial sharks” of Europe have remained with their noses, they circled around the finger.
In a matter of minutes, they bought stocks that bring billions of dollars from them and left them without income from technology and chemistry. Such a brilliant operation has not yet been in the history of the stock market.
If this is true, the sharks should blame themselves for not hodling onto their Chinese shares or even buying more, with both Yuan and stock prices themselves plummeting.



2692. Post 53773596 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

The Financial Times Alphaville explains what the halvening (pardon the gobbledygook) is.

Bitcoin’s “halvening” won’t boost its price
By: Jemima Kelly

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/01/30/1580390916000/Bitcoin-s--halvening--won-t-boost-its-price-


In the comments, I found our old friend NLC Wink



2693. Post 53776406 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 05, 2020, 01:03:47 AM
The Financial Times Alphaville explains what the halvening (pardon the gobbledygook) is.

Bitcoin’s “halvening” won’t boost its price
By: Jemima Kelly

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/01/30/1580390916000/Bitcoin-s--halvening--won-t-boost-its-price-


In the comments, I found our old friend NLC Wink

That above linked article is behind some kind of paywall (registration wall).  Me, not gonna do it.   Shocked Shocked

For some reason, I didn't get any wall. And no, I'm not registered.

The article itself is just a piece of classic Wall St against crypto mentality. I'll try to paste it here later.



2694. Post 53776608 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

The comments, only partially visible on the archive site, were a mixed bag of btc haters, moonboys (few), and informed people posting useful corrections. As I mentioned, NotLambChop couldn't refrain from putting a couple words in either.

EDIT When I first posted the link, the article was already archived. V8 top scout as usual.



2695. Post 53785156 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

LN can and will help with fungibility. One aspect of the Lightning Network that few commenters mention.



2696. Post 53785847 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Signed and sealed: Nakamoto, BTC... is it Dorian?  Tongue



2697. Post 53787531 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Here's the picnic bear at it again.

TL;DR jbreher argues big blocks with byzantine precision and aggressively low intellectual honesty. Beware: he's good at it.

Quote from: jbreher on February 06, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! He's only the chief scientist of the protocol and self proclaimed creator, a patent troll who copyrighted the whitepaper and trying to build a patent forest around the tech, other than that BSv is as decentralized as bitcoin. Keep trying to preach new n00bs in. Even in his best case scenario miners will just go behind tor, then who he's going to sue? But go ahead go fight the internet that always turns out well  Roll Eyes

Correct. BSV is just as decentralized as BTC. Craig's escapades notwithstanding. As they are irrelevant from the standpoint of the protocol and the chain.

Craig's escapades are indeed irrelevant to the protocol. Which, in a world of infinite straight lines and dimensionless points, has just as much centralization as BTC. However, in a world where there's a positive lower bound to the cost of resources, keeping verification costs near that lower bound conflicts with the number of lanes in the highway, so to say. Small vs big blocks becomes a matter of politics, or better said religion.






2698. Post 53789958 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

While catching up, I got a glimpse of more shitcoin shilling.

Here I'm back on it
straightening out big blockers
so that noobs are warned

Quote from: jbreher on February 06, 2020, 11:43:36 PM
Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible.  This has been proven in a court of law.  He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.

When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.

And again, you conflate my support of BSV with support of CSW. Just no.

Kurious might be conflating all right, but BSV is mined at the bid of a conflated jerk - be it CSW or CA. This could defy decentralization a bit in practice. That's the difference between the protocol as deployed in real life as opposed to the protocol in an ideal world.

At any rate, the sense talked by uncle D dosn't conflate anyone now does it.

Quote from: gentlemand on February 06, 2020, 11:41:02 PM
I'm sure I've said it before, but I'll say it again.

There's nothing wrong with saying aspects of BlockstreamBorgLizardAxaCoreSegShitcoin go against what you initially signed up for and believe in.

What I am amazed at is how few who believe that are capable of stating that the alternative projects that shout this the loudest are clearly pieces of shit that drown many of the principles that it does still work hard to respect in a fountain of shitty shit.

Why is it so painful to acknowledge?

Please stop it, jbreher. The noobs do get confused.


Bandwidth and storage
jerks don't taint the protocol
high requirements do

#haiku


(EDIT Congrats @ivomm! One more hero joins our ranks.)



2699. Post 53791629 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 07, 2020, 04:53:37 PM

nice graph,
it will be interesting how these machine will cope with new AML5 regulation in Europe.
In Italy I tested an ATM (without KYC, other installation avaliable over Europe, also in Spain) but I bet they have only weeks left before they shut down.
Comprare Bitcoin senza KYC: Bitcoin Bancomat a Milano rispettoso della Privacy

Total restructuring and regulation will occur when bitcoin is integrated into existing traditional ATMs installed in or owned by banks.

Even privately owned (by individuals) ATMs are a form of centralization.

The more governments and other corporations try to regulate them, the more people will turn to other more decentralized options like person-to-person transactions behind closed doors.

True decentralization consists of unofficial community of individuals worldwide.
As in, pre-KYC/AML localbitcoins. Over Tor, with feedback ratings.



2700. Post 53792046 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: bitebits on February 07, 2020, 06:07:37 PM
Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin
No login required here. Old style computer and browser. Maybe it's a mobile thing only?

EDIT @Phil_S I like old.reddit.com better anyway  Smiley
Neither old or new require me to login atm.



2701. Post 53792511 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 07, 2020, 07:14:30 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-400-million-people-lockdown-guangzhou-joins-quarantine

"Guangzhou, the capital of China's southwestern Guangdong Province and the country's fifth largest city with nearly 15 million residents, has just joined the ranks of cities imposing a mandatory lockdown on all citizens, effectively trapping residents inside their homes, with only limited permission to venture into the outside world to buy essential supplies.

That's more than 400 million people forcibly locked inside their homes for 638 deaths? Just think about that: If there was ever a reason to believe that Beijing is lying about the numbers (and not just because Tencent accidentally leaked the real data), this is it."



I am giving this a 10% chance of bringing down the Chinese government. 

I suspect the government could just kill half of them, burn the bodies and bury the ashes in some desert pit - and still not stumble.



2702. Post 53795942 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 08, 2020, 10:07:58 AM
For anyone looking to really smoke some Hopium, here goes.

What if the Chinese Communist Party ends up losing power from the Coronavirus and transitions to a Democracy in the next few years. What would that mean for Bitcoin.

Ill tell you what it means. We will get full legalization of Bitcoin as a currency in China, a return of Chinese Bitcoin exchanges, a Chinese Bitcoin ETF, and much more.

Percent probability of China suddenly going democratic?

Ultra ultra low?

In the ballpark of 1.034%
(extra digits are for JJG)



2703. Post 53796246 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 08, 2020, 12:27:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwEFa5NW2k Peterson Family Update - February 2020

His daughter updates us on his state of health.
Why she doesn't need a shirt to do so is perhaps a question for another time.

Especially as this may be pretty raw and relevant for one of our popular temporarily absent bros.

Benzos in North America are abused to criminal extents. I hope the temporarily absent bro comes back in due time to moonparty.



2704. Post 53799240 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Bones! Long time no see. Good to know you're fine. Now on to resume your hodler status...



2705. Post 53802088 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: eddie13 on February 09, 2020, 03:37:51 AM
WOOT GO BTC!!!!!!


Fuck, I am too drunk to determine who won. At first instance it looks like it was eddie13. Is that right?

P.S.: On other news... WE ALL WON Tongue
I believe so. I'm 8 seconds slower. Congratz eddie13

If, after sobriety has been reclaimed, and/or rigorous examination of the photo finish determines me the winner, the address in my profile is good Smiley
-redacted-

https://youtu.be/qR7U1HIhxfA <needs a BTC remix..

I suggest addresses be communicated via PM. It makes it all too easy to link user to address (receiver and sender).



2706. Post 53802275 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Lots of 502's/504's landing on CloudFlare page. Physiological pump reaction or half-assed DDoS?

EDIT Seems I'm not the first to notice.



2707. Post 53803331 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Yes, it is Sunday
but I see no haiku yet
so here's my 2 cents



#haiku



2708. Post 53803337 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

I was reminded
haikus should be relevant...
10k and counting!





2709. Post 53803480 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

You see the same ho?
variety is much better
different hoes each time




2710. Post 53806811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on February 09, 2020, 07:03:07 PM
I don't get why people still follow someone like masterluc who is not willing to post his analysis here for constructive criticism. The shine has worn off that particular penny IMO. That being said I expect any correction to stop at the weekly 20 MA. Let's see who is correct. Do I get a hat if I win?
I for one often report about masterluc here. He was the first analyst to impress me with his long term prediction. I agree he's lost his edge, but I also think there's little damage to hear his more recent short term calls - even if they're off more often than not.

And I think you could get a hat even without winning, if you want it.



2711. Post 53817494 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: OutOfMemory on February 11, 2020, 02:37:51 PM
Bitcoin: I see we're approaching the median of the uptrend channel again, still can't post images because of newbie reset restrictions.

Have one for the informative post. Every bit helps  Wink



2712. Post 53817860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Whoa whoa, we're going up. It's not even the weekend. This looks quasi organic.



2713. Post 53818111 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

I do like my green as much as anyone else, but let's keep this sober. We don't want to blow our load into a parabolic condom.



2714. Post 53819582 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 11, 2020, 07:38:28 PM
Yeah you have no caws for complaint

Jay JuanGee might still complain, though.

(barrel thoroughly scraped yet?)



2715. Post 53819737 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: bkbirge on February 11, 2020, 07:56:36 PM
yup we shouldnae carrion



A magpiep?



2716. Post 53820893 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: eddie13 on February 11, 2020, 06:58:53 AM
Yes I do.. Smiley
Built over bought baby..

Does it apply to synths too?

[rant]
I'm not expecting too much sympathy about this here, but I find much of the self-built modular hype to be just an excuse to make more engineering/DIY and less music. At least, this applies to my friends around here. The ones who spend more time with a soldering iron and drool over exotic hardware are the same that deliver the blandest music - if they ever finish a piece at all.

I don't mean it's a bad thing in itself. I understand the joy of discovering which specific semi-random sounds will be produced by physical processes we start but can't meaningfully micromanage ("play"). However, interesting as this discovery may be, the results are not engaging - which is what music should be, for me at least - a bit like, say, Ligeti's Poème Symphonique For 100 Metronomes.

What I understand less is the nerve to impose such random output to non participating folks as if it was anything else than conceptual art.
[/rant]

IMO, it's different for guitarists. Those that get to be decent or good amateur luthiers are often good musicians to begin with.

@WO-synth-builders nothing personal. The rant is directed at people I know in RL that have pissed me off on a few occasions.



2717. Post 53821278 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: STT on February 12, 2020, 01:03:32 AM
Its peaking too early dam it.    I had 11500 I think and its perhaps even within a channel to gain this.    So that means if true we either follow that channel which is overly aggressive as said or we break the channel which can reset possibly down to 8k and will it reset reconstruct and regain 11500 before and on the day of halvening.   The odds are against me being even close I guess, I got the price on the previous grand list also just not the day required  Cry
  Drawn with crayons by toddlers addled with mt.dew

I share your concern for a premature parabolic rise. I doubt it would be good.



2718. Post 53823385 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 12, 2020, 08:11:34 AM
Competition is good for business. If you are competent.

Competition is good for customers, not for the business itself. A moat is good for business.

Cheaper or free education rises the bar for competition in the business of "selling one's brain". This is bad for people already in the business of selling their brain: the higher, educated classes, since it fills the moat. But it benefits the system at large.



2719. Post 53831984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 13, 2020, 11:38:11 AM
au contraire, far from being a charlatan he is the master ... masterluc is his second incarnation, before that he was lucif https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=50218 and before that maybe he was another too, or maybe mother_of_another, who knows?!  Cheesy Cheesy

... he has called both the 2013 AND 2017 mega waves with almost prophetic vision years in advance. (no-one can get all the details exact but his timing and scales have been too good to be luk, the guy has a skill in waves that is something extraordinary.) ... don't get bogged down in the day to day, week to week, his secular bull calls are for the ages ... i.e. for the HODLers.

I have a sneaky suspicion he was there and called the legendary 2011 Gox spike, but who knows, that would be a myth by then.

ok, so maybe he lost the connection to his private jinn sometime somehow?

something like that ... probably he was so successful in 2013 and 2017 that he doesn't really care that much anymore and only does it now for fun and old times sake. Who really knows? If you read all his words it makes more sense, he knows bitcoin deeply and understands markets intimately also.

I also respect masterluc for his long term prediction. He foresaw the 2017 boom and subsequent bear. He's not that good at short term, but his voice shouldn't be disregarded IMHO. He does know his shit.



2720. Post 53832050 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 13, 2020, 04:54:44 PM
As long as we're posting new AYHs on an almost daily basis, I'm happy. It's certainly not running away with itself exponentially.

Go Bitcoin go.

Clap clap clap.



2721. Post 53833021 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on February 13, 2020, 07:45:57 PM


I think I've been distracted... what did APompliano say to get his twitter account suspended?



2722. Post 53836176 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: julian071 on February 14, 2020, 10:01:04 AM
Haha this can't be a coincidence: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/14/are-they-mean-donald-trump-obsessed-with-badgers-new-book-claims

The Guardian suggests the POTUS could be haunted by Taxidea taxus rather than Mellivora capensis. It's likely the man can't tell bch from dogecoin.



2723. Post 53850712 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: akhjob on February 16, 2020, 02:44:50 PM
Looks like everybody here who properly invested in bitcoin before 2017 have around at least 50 and possibly closer to 100 btc while other late people who started to accumulate after 2017 have something between 5 and 15.

Makes sense since btc is now at x10 of the 2014's ATH.

Being early pays.

*pussies who stare at their monitors but never buy will never get close to these levels

If the latecomers play their cards right they'll have an opportunity to increase their btc stash by %200 - %500. All it takes is shorting the parabolic at the right time.

Wow.. I started investing in BTC on Oct 2017 and have been investing whatever I can on Bitcoin and am still struggling around 0.2 BTC.  This makes me wonder, how you calculated that if someone started accumulating BTC after 2017 they’ll be having something around 5-15 BTC. Maybe you are talking about the rich guys who are able to invest over 700$ every month 3 yrs back. Sadly, I don’t even earn 700$ a month Sad


I doubt that very many long term bitcoiners really agree with any of the pushes to make cash illegal.. or to discourage the use of cash.
Why not? We already have Petro, the Chinese almost ready to launch digital Yuan, the Japanese are brainstorming whether to have a digital yen and other Governments might also follow. Almost everything has gone digital now  Grin
Trying to buy btc with petro (or with digital yuans/yes/dollars/whatevers) might be an instructive experience. Actually, even just trying to store the tokens might make for good education. Your keys or not? Tongue



2724. Post 53850721 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

First haiku today?
We goin' up or we goin' down?
Uncertain Sunday?



2725. Post 53857181 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Phil_S on February 17, 2020, 01:12:48 PM
More BS from Masterluc?

Yeah. I think we're going sideways in 9000-10000 range for a while.

Short-lived dips to 8xxx are possible, but not very likely, and irrelevant anyway.

Predicting 6xxx just before golden cross and so close to halving is simply crazy.

I agree masterluc's lost his charm - but I also think he never had any special touch for short term to begin with.

For those who aren't up to date, here's a collection of all his latest posts.


Quote from: Masterluc on Telegram
Feb 11
Everyone is shouting: halving, halving. And in the comments under my posts, they rave about them. So, here's a fresh look. I have the audacity to say that the halving, as a scalar event, does not affect the price chart at all. I experienced and observed two previous halvings. Generally no substance. Halving points fall into completely random places of different trends. And they do not cause anything, not even the slightest reaction of the market, despite the general excitement and fundamental nature of the event.

Feb 11
You know, this is probably a phenomenon, OK. But there is an explanation. Halving is the nature of Bitcoin, a metaphysical phenomenon that creates its essence and the manifestation of which cannot be found on the surface. Halving is manifested in the fact that bitcoin is growing for a long time. And in the spring you will not see anything special.

Feb 13
I was surprised by the reaction to my last short-term forecast. Surprised by the dissatisfied bull roar Wink And the overestimated bull expectations only gave me even more confidence in their rightness.

Feb 17
So, if my idea is correct, then I see these two options.
Red is a smaller triangle with the next bottom at 7500.
Blue is a larger triangle, support is in the weekly ma200 area and the bottom is in the region of 6000, but no less than the previous bottom of 3200.
Both triangles are quite bullish in the long term.


Feb 17
Oh yes. I prefer the blue version. It looks more ergonomic) And it fits the timings.
I repeat once again, I deny halving as an event that affects the price in principle. It is wired into the bullish nature of Bitcoin and you can already see it, looking at the whole chart from 2010 to 2020. Specifically, on the day of halving, you will not see anything unusual,



2726. Post 53859260 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: rdbase on February 17, 2020, 03:31:57 PM
Wanna put that 15K-hat, but I love this last comrade xhomerx creation Roll Eyes Cheesy
Glad you liked it! Wink
Can not wait until the opportunity for you to dawn the $15k hat comes to pass. Grin

Are you telling me? I'm stuck with this until 15k, can't wait to take it off for a proper club hat!



2727. Post 53859960 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: manchester93 on February 17, 2020, 08:59:58 PM
Better get those possible future subversives on a list before they even know there are lists and make sure to make the parents the ones turning them in just for the lulz.



The Brits are so fucked. It reminds me of Too Much Bling, Give us a Ring!

Who knows why, it seems that youtube video has comments disabled...



2728. Post 53863109 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on February 18, 2020, 09:52:21 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/argentina-on-the-brink-of-default-as-do-or-die-imf-talks-near-end.html

Bitcoin doesn't default.
To be fair, gold doesn't either. But gold parity was abandoned by the western world after Nixon.



2729. Post 53866547 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2020, 07:59:27 PM
Evening walk. White couple walks by. Girls legs are literally twice as thick as the dudes.
Thanks to emancipation! Well done, feminists. All in all it's just the backswing of ages of suppressing women.
Well, that's kind of the point. That last line? Corona could potentially kill hundreds of millions of people. Depending how things play out, it could be the best thing that happened to the west since the end of the war. Possibly the literal salvation of the west.

I'm afraid COVID-19 receptor distribution isn't biased towards thick thighs.



2730. Post 53866955 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 18, 2020, 08:25:17 PM
This sort of thing does not raise any flags for me.


https://www.instagram.com/_kyleekyls/
But flagpoles for some.



2731. Post 53867006 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

Sometimes I wish we could, even if it costed 2 to subtract 1.



2732. Post 53880547 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

King of The Kingdom
seems to be alive and well
Risto Pietilä









#haiku



2733. Post 53880641 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

The bitcoin tax discussion is very relevant, and as bitserve says, probably not long before it becomes widespread. A few merits are due - I'll use the special ones, since the boring ones are hard to come by right now.

Quote from: bitserve on February 20, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
https://www.libremercado.com/2020-02-20/gobierno-criptomonedas-limite-bitcoiin-1276652560/
heads up seed
+1

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2020, 01:39:59 AM
Da fuck! What country are you in?!?? Never saw capital gains taxed so fucking high. That percentage is ridiculous even for regular salary income FFS!
50% income tax, give or take depending. 25% sales tax. Hidden taxes on everytyhing, not sure how much but not less than 50%. In total, 80-90% taxation.

Which is why there is no fucking way I will get off with ONLY 20% when they get around to bitcoin. States always want More.

Denmark, by the way.
discussion germinated
+1

Quote from: infofront on February 21, 2020, 04:05:30 AM
Da fuck! What country are you in?!?? Never saw capital gains taxed so fucking high. That percentage is ridiculous even for regular salary income FFS!
50% income tax, give or take depending. 25% sales tax. Hidden taxes on everytyhing, not sure how much but not less than 50%. In total, 80-90% taxation.

Which is why there is no fucking way I will get off with ONLY 20% when they get around to bitcoin. States always want More.

Denmark, by the way.

From what I understand, most European countries have taxation based on country of residency. So, you should be able to get residency in 0% country, like Malaysia or Panama, stay there for a year, dump your bitcoins, then move back. All 100% legal and tax free.
this won't help bitserve much, though.
+1



2734. Post 53885465 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Dabs on February 21, 2020, 01:19:25 PM
In other news -
 6000 bitcoin on the shelf for 7 years after being seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau -

Full story - https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0219/1116299-bit-coin-clifton-collins/
So it turns out the guy 'lost' the keys in a fishing rod accident for the 6000 BTC
Hahah, never heard that one before. LOL, Stick it to the man!  Grin Priceless, I like this dood already.
Marijuana grower loses keys to 6000 BTC


What did I say earlier?  dood makes sure witnesses see and know it was in the fishing rod, which then gets stolen and lost. Paper can be backed up elsewhere too (it's not a backup if there is only 1 copy.) or buried.

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

Ireland and UK have draconian proceeds of crime laws - trespassing into unfair. I don't remember what this dude's really guilty of, but that money predates his crimes. I agree the guvmint shouldn't be able to seize it. I hope he does have a few backups scattered here and there. In that case it's bitcoin 1 - guvmint 0.



2735. Post 53886423 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

The wine shop on Hell's Street is rumored not to be the best source though.



2736. Post 53888941 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 22, 2020, 03:24:16 AM
bird flew away with paper wallets
That's called a whoring accident in most circles.



2737. Post 53890892 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 22, 2020, 06:27:53 AM
King of The Kingdom
seems to be alive and well
Risto Pietilä









#haiku


Dragon, no?

castle burning down
omnipotent deluded
chemical dragon



2738. Post 53903402 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: bkbirge on February 24, 2020, 02:43:44 PM
How to Protect Bitcoin for Your Heirs With the Push of a ‘Dead Man’s Button’

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If the button isn't pressed one week, it is assumed the bitcoin user is dead or incapacitated and it's time for the bitcoin to be passed on, at which point the service automatically dispenses a "secret," which can be used to retrieve the crypto.

https://www.coindesk.com/how-to-protect-bitcoin-for-your-heirs-with-the-push-of-a-dead-mans-button

Here they are talking about LN, but it's okay to think about these things. (it doesn't have to be LN.)

Don't cheap out with this. Go set up your will with a lawyer that specializes in this. Make sure all your accounts and the information needed to access them is setup ahead of time for your heirs. Choose your estate executor. Update as needed every few years. This is important stuff if you have a family or otherwise want to disburse your assets after you die. Nothing is as soul draining as when already suffering from loss to then have to spend your time you should be grieving instead messing with lawyers and gov't types and unscrupulous relatives because your loved one failed to plan ahead. Ask me how I know this.

Here's btctalk thread about a dead man's button system, still in alpha though.
This is one of the few topics I'm always interested in.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185907.0



2739. Post 53905842 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Today Wall Street was really bad. Yet the corn doesn't pop her head yet. As someone said, patience is a virtue.



2740. Post 53909272 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Phil_S on February 25, 2020, 12:16:28 PM
With 6000BTC he should have been living in a mansion with a fire proof panic room & his keys in there.

Wouldn't that make it a bit harder to convince the government that he lost them in an accident?

I'm pretty sure the guy's got his bases covered. As soon as he gets out, it's gonna be lambos hookers and blow.

As for Weinstein, he's an asshole no doubt, but I'm with Lambie on this one. Girl goes to guy's place, girl has sex with him, girl texts pleasantries, girl keeps on seeing him. Girl gets famous, guy gets sued, girl joins the bandwagon after she's rich and famous enough to sell pussy-flavored candles rather than the real thing... this doesn't match my definition of rape.



2741. Post 53910900 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 25, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
Bitcoin got corona? Are we seriously going to see more of Vegeta memes again? Angry

If we go below $9,000 I’m going to buy MOAR!

I hate the price going down but when it does it’s always good to use it as a slight positive & buy if you’re able to.

I've been a little extravagant myself lately with physical acquisitions. Bought millions of sats on every dip ;-)



2742. Post 53912567 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on February 25, 2020, 08:57:48 PM
Not sure if this was shared here before, but even if it was, it deserves to be shared again:




He's lucky it wasn't the Dow Joans that fell 2 days in a row.

EDIT Oops, AlcoHoDL beat me to it!  Roll Eyes



2743. Post 53916063 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on February 26, 2020, 05:29:30 AM
I wonder what became of cousin nutildah's BSV short. Grin

I know what happened to my BCH short  Wink



2744. Post 53916163 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 26, 2020, 09:48:20 AM
I am travelling right now
(Yes, travelling in CoronaVirus land, trying to avoid contagion).
I cannot get hold of the whole report, but looks interesting to me:

Quote
The team a @jpmorgan released a monster 74-page cryptocurrency report a few days ago.

Too long?

Here's a thread summarizing the best parts 👇
https://twitter.com/mjdibb/status/1232505570508201984

Here's the whole enchilada

https://markets.jpmorgan.com/research/open/url/t59R6MoBP2TUkWA_itSQBbfUlco1CmYnoNL3dA6WVSm82drJuOYLvdZIqDyuXyp-L4OrVEFw_eAu4UgzicsInqAwjcbKIQHiPfGEjPF2Rt5PKUltFmEKGQaC3DeLBoW7?action=print

Yes the main thing is will you please avoid getting ill for as long as possible. We wouldn't mind reports from the front lines and stuff like that, but we want you fit and healthy and that's all there is to it.


edit: what does that mean, that the document is watermarked? should I expect the Spanich Inquisition?

The table of contents doesn't contain a single instance of the word "bitcoin".  Roll Eyes



2745. Post 53916395 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: OutOfMemory on February 26, 2020, 11:28:01 AM
Hard to get some beans, noodles and rice already.

Came home and i saw that i already advanced to Jr. Member!!! ...again  Roll Eyes
Again?

This is mainly for VB1001:



Pixel by pixel, bro. Every bit helps I guess.



2746. Post 53916399 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: fillippone on February 26, 2020, 12:50:31 PM

The table of contents doesn't contain a single instance of the word "bitcoin".  Roll Eyes

Mentioned twice in the “executive summary”.

Oops, I didn't notice.

Quote
You are an executive of WO inc., aren’t you?

Oops, I didn't notice.



2747. Post 53918901 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

I'm buying like crazy. My DCA schedule got on sort of a quick track. The main thing, as some absent peep would point out, is making sure I don't run out of dry powder should the need for a big shot arise. So I got a few more sats today - couldn't resist placing a couple limit orders in this area, and both triggered - and I will keep at this.

However, as the same absent peep would suggest, I've got an emergency stash. It amounts to ~40% of the fiat I'd allocated for Q1. You bears want to try your hands at the high 7k's? Even lower? Go for it, I'm ready.




2748. Post 53918946 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 26, 2020, 05:50:29 PM
Right, it’s low enough now. Logging onto laptop to buy 0.5BTC.

Thank you for your service.

I’ve bought 4 BTC so far this week. Because incremental ladder trading.

Wow, 4 whole coins this week. You wrote btc - as in bitcoin, with no other qualifiers. If I got it right, there goes a little haiku for you.

That's just, like, you know
five days and a weekend, man
Congratulations!




2749. Post 53924493 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: rolling on February 27, 2020, 02:23:34 PM
seems Wall Street is in complete panic mode now.  Roll Eyes

The dream scenario would be 1% of the money being taken out of equities finding it's way to bitcoin. Bonds are at record levels. Gold is a joke to most investors, commodities are falling, most will just hold cash but what if bitcoin starts rising at the same time the stock market crashes? That reverse correlation could make for an epic spike.

I think we saw a decline in the last few days because traders are trying to make it look like bitcoin is correlated to the stock market. I hope they run out of ammo while the stock market keeps declining. Wishful thinking perhaps.
There is another possible explanation that doesn't call for traders conspiring to mock up positive correlation.  It might be that some people are simply cashing out thinking that, particularly in times of trouble, "cash is king" - Buffett style.  Or perhaps they just need the money to deal with emergency expenses.  Speculative analysis is hard to get right anyway, and turmoil such as this doesn't help to see things clearly.



2750. Post 53924540 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: bkbirge on February 27, 2020, 04:07:16 PM
The establishment chicken littles are starting to crow. I wonder how much is corona virus effect as stated and how much is them just saying it is to cover their rears...
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-will-wipe-out-corporate-profit-growth-in-2020-and-may-trigger-recession-goldman-sachs-122739601.html
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The coronavirus may wipe out corporate growth in 2020, perhaps completely.

Goldman Sachs said Thursday in a note U.S. companies will generate no earnings growth in 2020. Underlying the call is Goldman’s view that the coronavirus is expected to spread around the globe and severely harm economic activity.

The market couldn't stand this growth rate anyway.  The Fed wanted to hike the rates a little, and only pressure from the orange ape made them keep on easin'.  This corona thing is actually a help for those who need a different narrative.  'Corona gets all the blame' is like 'dog ate my homework'.



2751. Post 53930552 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Torque on February 28, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
PSA Fun Fact:

'Shorting' is not the same as 'dumping'.

Shorting is when someone smarter than you is actually buying your coins that you just panic sold at a loss, because you have a spine of jelly.

This is why you are not wealthy.  Cheesy

insider dumping = NAKED shorting  Cool  ~you new here? lol

Fuck off n00b troll. Been here waaay longer than you.

Maybe not so noob as it seems. That guy reeks of gembitz ;-)



2752. Post 53930556 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: lightfoot on February 28, 2020, 04:42:37 AM
In which case Bitcoin will not go up. Fiat will simply go down.

In other news, watch out: Latest Mozilla update wants to route your DNS queries through cloudflare. Which since it's an internet provider means the Govt will be able to see all of your queries without a warrant.

(Run your own DNS servers ffs)

Doesn't Mozilla obey to your OS network settings?



2753. Post 53930579 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: aesma on February 28, 2020, 07:02:51 AM
With how things are accelerating with the virus, do you think it could be "over" in a way quicker than first thought, basically things going back to this being a "bad flu year" but no more going crazy with quarantines, closing plants, closing schools, stopping tournaments, things that are proving ineffective anyway, aside from hurting the economy ?

If the news from Israel is to be believed, we're on our way to a vaccine. With fast track approval from the Ministry of Health, it might be available in 3 months. Someone posted an interesting link a few pages ago, sorry I can't remember who it was (not V8 though).



2754. Post 53930624 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: vapourminer on February 28, 2020, 12:12:29 PM

[snippage ensues]
I still own a pair of (working) Compaq 'sewing machine' 8088-based PC clones. DOS on floppy, store to floppy. Woo-hoo!

I keep an 8 inch floppy disk at my desk, beside my 5 pound IBM Model M keyboard. Winderrs keys are for losers! The Model M is a daily driver, the 8 inch floppy is just a momento.

yeah i have an old IBM AT keyboard. old IBM keyboards were the standard (aside from its Selectric typewriter) and still kick ass. prolly weights more than some entire computer setups now.


Quote from: vapourminer on February 28, 2020, 12:20:50 PM
Think we are at a bottom. Sell orders have not been increasing and are in fact decreasing slightly.

maybe. room for lots of panic in the market still.

i slurped some corn up during this but still have some reserve if it keeps going south.



Two totally unrelated subjects, but it seems like we're on the same page for both :-)

A 'sympathy' +2 WOsMerit!



2755. Post 53930632 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: lightfoot on February 28, 2020, 04:14:11 PM
In which case Bitcoin will not go up. Fiat will simply go down.

In other news, watch out: Latest Mozilla update wants to route your DNS queries through cloudflare. Which since it's an internet provider means the Govt will be able to see all of your queries without a warrant.

(Run your own DNS servers ffs)

Doesn't Mozilla obey to your OS network settings?
Used to, but apparently there is a new "feature" where DNS lookups are passed to the "cloud" rather than going through your local resolver.


Thanks for the heads-up, guys. I went and found out it can be disabled.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https
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Manually Enabling and disabling DNS-over-HTTPS

You can enable or disable DoH in your Firefox connection settings:

    Click the menu button Fx57Menu and select Options.
    In the General panel, scroll down to Network Settings and click the Settings… button.
    In the dialog box that opens, scroll down to Enable DNS over HTTPS.

        On: Select the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox. Select a provider or set up a custom provider.
        Off: Deselect the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox.

    toggle doh

    Click OK to save your changes and close the window.



2756. Post 53930673 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Torque on February 28, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
If the news from Israel is to be believed, we're on our way to a vaccine. With fast track approval from the Ministry of Health, it might be available in 3 months. Someone posted an interesting link a few pages ago, sorry I can't remember who it was (not V8 though).

And of course they'll magically have a vaccine ready in 2-3 months. Right when the world stock market needs some good news. How convenient timing, eh? Grin

Indeed, the timing is perfect. On the other hand, this corona thing could be the perfect scapegoat to cover up the inevitability of a world wide epidemy of recession caused by the MPV-42 (Money Printing Virus), so why kill it after all?

The technical explanation in the WO posted link I can't locate did make sense. The Israelis were targeting an avian flu vaccine (chicken IIRC), and they found out it's very similar to COVID-19. In particular, it uses the very same mechanism to enter the host cell.

TL;DR I'm still undecided which conspiracy fits me better.


EDIT BitcoinNewsMagazine found it.
Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on February 28, 2020, 04:24:36 PM
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101



2757. Post 53930816 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Torque on February 28, 2020, 04:43:23 PM
The technical explanation in the WO posted link I can't locate did make sense. The Israelis were targeting an avian flu vaccine (chicken IIRC), and they found out it's very similar to COVID-19. In particular, it uses the very same mechanism to enter the host cell.

TL;DR I'm still undecided which conspiracy fits me better.


EDIT BitcoinNewsMagazine found it.

But again I say, how "convenient" that they were already supposedly doing this research and how "convenient" they stumbled on the same supposed mechanism?

This is all just Truman Show bullshit. It's a completely managed market now; they needed a correction (to take profits and reset their long positions), and they needed a FUD excuse for a correction. That is all. Same fake shit they did in late 2018.

They won't let the market fall for long. It's a melt-up. They need to keep pumping it, seemingly forever. Either that, or we get another Great Depression. The Fed will take rates to near zero.

I agree it's fake and manipulated. My point: I think the bioweapon bat flu is largely irrelevant. They'll have to pump it up anyway, or risk the third 1929 or worse. Some crypto pundits are starting to say the Fed will be cutting rates to keep up with the forecoming bitcoin halving. As if it made any sense.



2758. Post 53930829 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: 2020VISION on February 28, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
rook da n00bzzz  Cool Grin Cheesy
~>weeeee(((pumping down)))===> bitcoin choinah virus shuttering the interweb$$$

@Torque, can you smell it too?  Cool



2759. Post 53941518 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: fillippone on March 01, 2020, 08:08:59 AM
Lol this maps looks suspicious:



Italy’s number looks low to my own anecdotical experience. Might be 1 in 10 (don’t know about women anyway).
What’s  wrong with Netherlands btw??


I would make a relevant distinction between number ones and number twos.

For number ones, washing hands before is as important as after, or even more. If you keep your junk in order, it's more about stopping bad stuff from outside entering the fun zone than spreading cooties from your johnson outwards.

Number twos are a totally different ball game.



2760. Post 53943975 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 01, 2020, 04:01:29 PM
There's a reason why beer is bottled in brown glass (or at worst green) in most places. It cuts down on UV light and keeps beer from becoming prematurely skunky.

Corona is pre-skunked. It's bad enough here in Mexico where it's considered cerveza turista, but by the time it's traveled to other countries, it's pretty dismal.

Indeed, the white glass doesn't stop algae and other nice light depending organisms from thriving. The resulting skunk is the reason why people often drink Corona with a slice of lime stuffed in the bottle.



2761. Post 53944007 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Virus talk? Boring.
Bitcoin? Not too interesting.
Haikus still a thing.



2762. Post 53949633 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: bkbirge on March 02, 2020, 02:26:35 PM
-snip-
Quote
Jon Cuncliffe, the deputy governor for financial stability of the United Kingdom’s central bank, the Bank of England (BoE)

Name checks out.



2763. Post 53952348 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on March 02, 2020, 06:46:42 PM
Twenty-one years old,
her scent is of mixed flowers,
who's your daddy?


#haiku



I'm not getting it... I might have missed some old post this one relates to. What's that about? Is it by any chance connected to your proud achievement of a double bean flick today?

The haiku itself is beautiful. Pity for the messed up syllable count.



2764. Post 53955817 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 03, 2020, 09:48:52 AM
There was a young bitcoiner called cryptotourist
Who, far from being a haiku purist
Used dodgy counting tools
Taking us all quite for fools
And telling us all about his poor wrist.

Spicy limericks over contemplative haikus any day, eh?

+1 WoSMerit



2765. Post 53955841 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on March 03, 2020, 09:16:47 AM
Syllable counting,
what haiku is all about,
such an epic fail.


I got this motherfuckers. Cool

Better count by ear,
you got it, motherfucker!
Gave you my last one Wink






2766. Post 53955954 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 03, 2020, 11:12:43 AM
Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific




TL;DR Keep calm and wash hands.


+1 WoSMerit



2767. Post 53956158 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Risk is a statistical measure, e.g. the expected loss of a strategy, asset or portfolio.

Not quite. Its the probability that a gain or a loss will differ significantly from what is expected.

This debate caught my interest, so I've looked through Wikipedia and glanced through Investopedia, but I haven't found an unequivocal statement about risk being a probability (pure number) or an expectation (currency units). No clear cut equation anywhere. Some pages say only downside enters the calculation, which would make a negative outcome impossible.

As a layman, I'm left thinking that the unqualified term 'risk' isn't well suited to numerical discussion. Other more precisely defined quantities might be better for that.



2768. Post 53956860 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Dow-Jones Industrial sat on a wall
With Standard and Poor's, he took a great fall
And all the King's printers and all the King's hoes
Couldn't bring either back on their toes



2769. Post 53956934 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Observing unusually sharp spikes in the price over short time scales. Smells like sloppy whales accumulating more than selloffs.



2770. Post 53963725 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 04, 2020, 01:51:27 PM
It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.
It kind of does. It swings one way until it can't anymore, gradually slows down to zero, reverses its direction and repeats the same action but mirrored, then it resets and begins a new cycle.

It's the same thing, in some sense. If you project circular motion onto any straight line coplanar with the circle, you get harmonic (pendulum) motion.



2771. Post 53965384 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity, is there?

Bank of England governor-designate Andrew Bailey says: 'If you want to buy bitcoin, be prepared to lose all your money'

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/57778/bank-of-england-governor-designate-if-you-want-to-buy-bitcoin-be-prepared-to-lose-all-your-money



2772. Post 53965811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 04, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
Who?

Isn't Andy going to be the next BOE top guy?



2773. Post 53976776 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 06, 2020, 03:10:42 PM
Maybe the Thai Navy will see the virus as a threat to national sovereignty and threaten it with death.

+1 WO merit.

You're covered  Wink



2774. Post 53978355 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 06, 2020, 08:14:23 PM
A new order must be found, one way or another. And it has to be something based on merit if we don't wanna backslide literally thousands of years.
Something along the lines of "Anyone over X awarded merit gets to breed"?

So merit me, byotches!



2775. Post 53981970 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

WB JJG  Grin



2776. Post 53983303 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Wild candles going on! Feels like stop clearing before a run. I'm betting on an UP run.



2777. Post 53989092 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Stop arguing y'all. Bitcoin is ded.



2778. Post 53989613 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

@Bawb @Wekkel I had a couple of buy orders filled too. Great minds think alike AND aren't contrarian indicators  Tongue (hopefully)

@Tash I filled up my car. @Globb0 As for the swords, I need a suitable welder, but I'm told they are only made in China so I'm stuck ATM.



2779. Post 53989632 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 08, 2020, 05:46:05 PM
What is TP?

Toilet paper, the analog currency of the moment.



2780. Post 53989647 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 08, 2020, 05:47:18 PM


The fault is of the cats. Cheesy
Why would anyone let their cat onto the golden throne.

Apparently some folks actually train them to shit there...

...this is wrong. This is Heresy! Cats are meant to dig a hole in the ground and poop in that, and then cover it up. DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF THE CAT-PIRE!

Dominant cats don't bury their shit! On the contrary, they will often feature it prominently to mark their turf.



2781. Post 53989955 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

What's with all this shitcoin talk?



2782. Post 53990031 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

WO's gone nuts
trending: how to wash your ass
no toilet paper.



#haiku



2783. Post 53990916 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

It's deader now than before.



2784. Post 53991522 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 08, 2020, 06:25:15 PM
I thought they were for cunts.
Assholes are fine too.



2785. Post 53994234 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 09, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Get paid to have coronavirus: Scientists will pay volunteers £3,500 to be infected in experiments to develop a vaccine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8090761/amp/Get-PAID-coronavirus-Scientists-London-pay-volunteers-3-500-develop-vaccine.html?__twitter_impression=true

You could just pick 24 people that already have it and pay them...

They probably have to apply the vaccine before the subject is infected with the live strain.



2786. Post 53995811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: rdbase on March 09, 2020, 04:12:58 PM
200-day MA needs to hold

Maybe Plustoken Scammers are selling their Bitcoins

https://twitter.com/ErgoBTC/status/1236072541808029696
Bingo!
They are selling off the bitcoin on exchanges/leverage sites slowly and havent even depleted the entirety of their holdings yet.
A cryptowriter has been reporting on this in the last few days ever since the price dipped below $9k.
https://cryptoslate.com/chinese-scam-plustoken-is-moving-117m-in-bitcoin-research-firm
https://cryptoslate.com/why-the-bitcoin-price-just-dropped-4-in-a-single-hour
Where you say?
Bitmex probably. Roll Eyes
https://cryptoslate.com/an-abrupt-7-bitcoin-price-drop-to-8100s-liquidated-185-million-of-longs-on-bitmex


It must be somewhere else. Bitmex is not a real exchange. You can only get btc in/btc out.



2787. Post 54003718 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: SwayStar123 on March 10, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
This is definitely not looking good, and as I hear the European Football Championship this summer is in big question, there is a possibility of postponement for the next year.
No worries. In the UK they are asking 24 people to contract the covid-19 virus voluntarily while being paid for the two weeks during the trial period in trying to find a cure to it. Shocked
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/people-paid-3500-infected-coronavirus-find-cure-12370003/

What if they paid this $4500usd out in BTC would you consider it? Huh

why dont they just find the people who already have it? Would be much cheaper  Huh

I think what they are testing is a vaccine. In this case, the subject's immune system must be exposed to the vaccine before being infected with the live virus.



2788. Post 54004157 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 10, 2020, 09:59:35 PM

your point??

Previous post:
Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 10, 2020, 07:49:46 PM
What is F@H?



2789. Post 54004572 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Masterluc bulletin

Quote from: Masterluc on telegram
Eh, what happened to you, America? All American bonds go to hell. No one else believes in old America









2790. Post 54007934 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Due to epidemic-related emergency triage rules, sMerit is now rationed. No legendaries can be awarded sMerit until further notice. WOsMerit can still be distributed as usual.

Quote from: Paashaas on March 11, 2020, 04:50:43 AM

+1 WOsMerit


Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 11, 2020, 07:13:05 AM
shit's getting real if Ibian is considered as the reasonable and serious one.
+1 WOsMerit


Quote from: Hueristic on March 11, 2020, 05:06:42 AM
Its the extreme leftists Bernie would appoint to power that I would worry about most. A Bernie Fed ran by a communist bartender chick could easily ban Bitcoin.

These seem to be baseless, McCarthy era-level fears. I hope you don't actually believe this and are just using hyperbole to state your beliefs. Regardless, you're right in that its almost a moot point. America can now prepare itself for 4 more years of mediocrity and flow of wealth from the middle class to the rich.

What middle class?
+1 WOsMerit


Quote from: gentlemand on March 11, 2020, 12:13:27 PM
blah blah blah.. no excuses. BTC was designed to shine in a moment like this. And we are failing.

It don't matter what it was designed to do. What matters is how it's treated and perceived by its present owners. Most of them treat as the frilliest end of their betting slip.
+1 WOsMerit



2791. Post 54009760 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Dabs on March 11, 2020, 06:38:36 PM
You guys watching the traditional stock markets? Everything is on sale.

It's been clear out sale since last week.

It could be seen as value buying or knife catching, depending on perspective.



2792. Post 54010089 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

With Win 10, they forced SMB 3 down our throats because v1 wasn't secure. Uh, whatever. Will they ever get this thing right?



2793. Post 54010872 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: infofront on March 11, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
I'm thinking of playing the US stocks a little more. There is some predictable price action ahead.

For example: By the end of the week, some kind of stimulus package will be passed by the government. Markets skyrocket. Next week, following logarithmic viral spread and increased testing, the market will crash further.

It could be a risky game. Do they have many more stimulus packages available? Orange POTUS is already calling out the Fed as a bunch of wimps because they weren't prompt enough to do it again immediately.



2794. Post 54016984 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 12, 2020, 03:03:43 AM
Shit's gonna be apocalyptic tomorrow when the markets open.

Brace for maximum pain.

HODL strong. It's going to get worse.

Bawb gets the 'early prophet' award this time. "I called it first!"
Yes man you did.



2795. Post 54016999 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: infofront on March 12, 2020, 02:10:44 PM
Btw, the gleaming bright side to all of this crap:

Once this bear market is over (in all markets) and has bottomed, we won't see this type of thing again for a VERY long time.

Mark my words, we'll have another ten year epic bull run that will defy all gravity, logic, and common sense.

The Fed will make sure of it.

I've been wondering about that. How long will 0% interest rates and QE keep working? It seems we get diminishing returns from that nonsense.

That's what I meant when I said they're running short of ammunition. Going into negative rate territory doesn't help as much as lowering positive rates. Print as much as you like, sooner or later the rubber band snaps.



2796. Post 54017150 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on March 12, 2020, 07:21:04 PM
Wont be long before this fizzles out everywhere else too.

The places with warmer climates aren't even having a real problem to begin with.

Money printers wont be able to unprint though.

The last point is the crux IMO. There are going to be mid- and long term effects that can't be undone or even prevented.

Apart and independently from the gust of inflation, just think how many insurance companies (especially large reinsurers) are going to end tits up.



2797. Post 54018109 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 13, 2020, 01:26:39 AM
Anyone else feel like getting blackout drunk?
way ahead of you man

I've finished drinking for the day. Started at 9:30am. Had a good nap. Continued drinking. I've never "lost" this much money in a single day before. Multiple millions across BTC and my traditional investments.

This is fine.

Hoards of zombies have not...I repeat...have NOT started assaulting the compound as of yet...still running heightened security protocol's and roving patrol's for safety sake until further notice just in case.



Hunker down and hang in there folk's..the next 24 hours are critical...

That is all. 

TOXIC!!

I merited you just for showing up.



2798. Post 54018121 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Mindrust waking in the dead of night
checkin' out the price of btc
All our life
been titanium training for this moment, for this blight.




2799. Post 54018201 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on March 13, 2020, 01:52:29 AM
Now is the time for Buffet to step in and market buy us up to 6 figures with his cash reserves.

Or buy back heaps of his own shares. Or snap up whole companies at bargain prices, which would be more like him. For some reason, I don't see the old codger picking up cheep coinz.



2800. Post 54018227 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 13, 2020, 01:59:06 AM
I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes
Wouldn't put it past them if the WHO and other establishment organizations played it down until they got ready for some good old insider trades before ringing the alarm bells.

I'd be seriously surprised if there was anything that they could learn this late in that would shift the situation from "who cares" to "full panic". These issues are too well studied.

/tinfoil

I think all the downplaying the WHO could do is already done. It was used up in the early stages to delay world awareness. Now they declared pandemic status already, so it's kind of a capitulation in that regard.

This doesn't mean the virus won't be the scapegoat for all the past and present market fuckery.

As for future fuckery, it can be justified by the ensuing trouble alone. No one says no to helicopter money.



2801. Post 54018364 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

I'm calling the bottom.



2802. Post 54018445 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

@mindrust sorry for your loss.



2803. Post 54018471 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Yes we seem to be well over 5k again at last. The double dip warning does make sense though. Careful bros.



2804. Post 54018487 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Below 5k again. Double dip ongoing?



2805. Post 54018586 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: infofront on March 13, 2020, 03:14:14 AM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1238254013201727494

"Not to downplay coronavirus, but the 2009 swine flu epidemic infected 61 million Americans, killed over 12,000 and I don't recall anywhere near this level of hysteria."


By the way, stock futures did not bounce with us just now. That was all King.  Smiley

I don't understand this irrational fear of the virus either. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks its a con job to shift more assets to the wealthy, and give the governments more power.

Especially the bit about the governments grabbing more power sounds sinister but rings true - it's the emergency, you know.



2806. Post 54021328 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Icygreen on March 13, 2020, 05:51:04 AM
So to hear Lambie and Torque tell it, the Chinese/Iranian and Western elites were all in on this scam together to fool us?

Yeah, not sure I am buying that.
Not quite what I hear them saying, but here's a sobering narrative on markets and the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SroVO0DsLFQ

Well, 25 minutes of rambling for what could be a couple screens of text... that's just what makes most youtube preachers annoying to me. Hard to put it down in writing, eh Greg? If you ask me, we have better sources here in the WO.



2807. Post 54021577 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 13, 2020, 01:07:55 PM
I also skip YouTube videos. Usually they host people that are not able to simply condense their thoughts in a couple of words or their points are boring anyway with the only solution of hiding it in a 15m Youtube talk.

Give me the printed letters or it won’t happen.

They don't get any money unless it's over a certain length.

Youtube becoming a prime conveyor of information will cause the minds of the human race to melt. I can read something in a few seconds. I'm not going to spend minutes scrolling between coughing, cursors that move like a sedated slug and yards of drivel to find the one sentence I need.

I wholeheartedly agree, but it's hard to fight the stream. That's where the world is going. Semi-dyslexic millennials and all that.

One possible partial workaround is the PornHub approach, the "seek scope": a visual indicator of the number of views plotted over the time axis. It makes it easier to seek to the juicy bits instantly. As usual, porn sites have leading edge tech.



2808. Post 54021987 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 13, 2020, 06:17:25 AM
Well, yeah.. that is how roach started out... making a smart move to sell at $700, then just got increasingly more and moar bitter...



Another honest feeling: I feel like I am starting to look like roach by the time passes.  Grin

I would be a full-time gold freak when btc recovers from here and makes another ATH.  Grin



I am starting to change guys. Help me out.

You still like women?
What d'you think of Jews and Blacks?
You ain't r0ached yet.



Just think of rebuilding your stash little by little now.


#haiku



2809. Post 54022403 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 13, 2020, 03:30:40 PM
Wouldn't be suprised if Trump diagnosed with Covid19 next month.

Word is he won't get tested. But we know better don't we? My bet - he's positive, and of course it gets hushed.
Which doesn't mean he's going to die, or maybe be seriously ill at all.


The world mustn't know:
Infected orange POTUS
won't kick the bucket.




#haiku



2810. Post 54022490 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Never mind the corn
She got coronavirus
and ded already




#haiku



2811. Post 54022630 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Torque on March 13, 2020, 04:06:57 PM
Remember who the REAL enemy is: The Fed.

They needed a cover story for their money-printing bullshit that the world would buy! This was absolutely going to happen regardless.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/the-fed-details-moves-to-buy-treasurys-across-all-durations-starting-with-30-year-bond.html

#BUYBTC

They just threw a fresh handful of cash at "the market" to force a bounce

... aand it's gone.

EDIT Not quite yet; DJIA and SP500 are holding their own in positive territory.



2812. Post 54022638 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 13, 2020, 04:25:58 PM
Haiku Friday now
Instead of Bitcoin Sunday?
Or 13th only?

Weak hands RIP
Hope you don't become bitter
Like Kwuck or Roach.

Don't worry hodlers
Bitcoin will rise up again
As it always does.

+1 WOsMerit

Haikus just come out
never believed in Sundays
you deserve Merit.



2813. Post 54024811 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 14, 2020, 01:39:56 AM
Quote
A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Maths iz hard.

Nope, I don't believe it.

5! = 120



2814. Post 54027881 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 14, 2020, 05:12:22 AM
This isn't about reflexivity because the argument is precisely that dollars are not reflexive over time when it comes to their functionality as money, and your example doesn't hold either.

Either way, instead of wasting so much time on shitposting you might want to actually use that same energy on trying to actually understand what is being said.

Perhaps you might even be able to figure out that 1 USD at time t (e.g. in the year 1995) is almost never the same as 1 USD at time s =/= t (e.g. today). Your example doesn't hold regardless of the presence of a central bank as it concerns the argument at hand.

The same could be said for bitcoin, even if we measure it in shopping trolley units.

I think neither side is making sense in this pointless argument.



2815. Post 54027947 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 14, 2020, 01:48:36 PM
I always finish off with baby wipes.  Wink

Finish off with ? Dude, all I use are Cottonelle Flushable Wipes. It's like a touch of heaven for my asshole.

Took a monster dump this morning. One of those that breaks the surface tension of the water-line, and forms an island of shit in your bowl. Cashews man. Great stuff to clear me out. Anyway, 3 sheets of the Cottonelle wipes, and my asshole is left sparkling clean.

 We're on the way to another town in search of hand sanitizer.  I'll look for some of those cottonelle flushable wipes... and some cashews  Shocked

Make your own. Isopropylalkohol 80% and some aloe vera is all it takes.

Or mixed with glycerin.

Or just use the alcohol straight. No, wait... are we talking about cleaning the hands or cleaning the asshole? The distinction is important in this case.

Bitserve definitely knows something about treating your nether parts with alcohol. Heed his advice!  Cheesy



2816. Post 54027987 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 14, 2020, 04:49:39 AM

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Slightly off topic:

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A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520

what the hell is that nonsense about

It's about Factorials.

This example was made trickier by the fact that by grouping operators incorrectly (as in (230-220) * 0.5), you get 5.



2817. Post 54028103 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: 600watt on March 14, 2020, 02:45:51 PM
Or mixed with glycerin.

Or just use the alcohol straight. No, wait... are we talking about cleaning the hands or cleaning the asshole? The distinction is important in this case.
no, it is important to mix the ethanol with water: 30%water - 70%ethanol

if you use 100% ethanol it will evaporate to quickly to be able to kill the virus. if mixed with water as above described, it will evaporate slow enough to kill corona.

Maybe the dilution is more about conserving alcohol than extending treatment duration?

I don't know about glycerin, but I think ethanol/water solutions have the property that alcohol evaporates faster, leaving a more and more watery solution in liquid form. Can anyone confirm?



2818. Post 54028852 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 14, 2020, 06:13:45 PM
OpenBazaar users not affected.
It's a beauty.

I wonder why did they ban anyway?
Because they can.

We need more platforms like OpenBazaar.



2819. Post 54036244 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

...is good for the banter.



2820. Post 54045862 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 17, 2020, 01:25:09 PM
Everyone's jealous of a country with the world's highest civilian incarceration rate,
... and where a majority of inmates belong to racial minorities,
and many prisons are private-owned, for-profit businesses,
and the cost of health treatments is opaque and differs depending on whose hand is paying,
and most university graduates start their career burdened by crippling debt...


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that spies on its own citizens while spending more on the military than healthcare or education.
There's that, too.

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Who wouldn't want that?
Well, they invented Coca-Cola and McDonald's. It surely makes up for everything else, doesn't it.



2821. Post 54047557 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: eddie13 on March 17, 2020, 06:25:27 PM
Oh, and lots of Americans are fat because we are successful enough to be able to be.. Wink

Actually, obesity is a more of a problem for lower income, less educated people. It doesn't take that much success.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm



2822. Post 54047775 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 17, 2020, 07:44:57 PM
watched a guy die the other day, huge flabby ass white guy, crumpled in place, folks were doing CPR and his fat was rolling in waves

Does wonders for the morale eh?   Sad



2823. Post 54047804 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

While we're on the subject of morale - what about Article 34? Any Corona porn yet?



2824. Post 54047942 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on March 17, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
Better to force all vulnerable people to stay at home and let society function as normal otherwise.

... so everyone can visit and contaminate their favorite elder.



2825. Post 54048003 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: OutOfMemory on March 17, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
Better to force all vulnerable people to stay at home and let society function as normal otherwise.

... so everyone can visit and contaminate their favorite elder.

Forget it. This "quarantine the weak and old"-idea is just shortsighted AF.
Take two minutes and think about the consequences, all of you. That's a lot of cons for an unreal goal this attempt should achieve.


Kicking down average age at all costs.



2826. Post 54048552 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 17, 2020, 10:18:53 PM
"My best guess, for what it is worth, based on the latest Center for Disease Control data, is that confirmed COVID-19 (this specific form of the common cold) cases will not exceed 0.1% of the US population. Moreover, I do not think, when we look back on 2020, that the causes of death or serious injury will have changed much from 2017, for example: (CDC statistic)."

Elon doesn't panic.  Cheesy

 That's good for Elon but he's not going to find Mars anywhere near as forgiving as Earth when it comes to errors in judgement.

Let's be careful ourselves. Moon is a harsh mistress too.



2827. Post 54052603 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 18, 2020, 08:27:31 AM
I don't know how d_eddie is playing during these times, but he seemed to have had a very prudent system in which he was constantly taking winnings off of the table
I'm laying low. I got my long liquidated on the latest violent downturn, and my take profit limit on the short was a little too prudent to make up for it. However, I'd kept putting sats away in the meantime, so all in all I'm still up. I bought more physical than usual in the 7ks. I could have saved a bit more for now, but if we knew the future we'd all be rich like fuck wouldn't we? I still have some dry powder left, and will keep stacking physical sats little by little.

I'm still convinced we will prevail. It's just that no one has a friggin' idea of the timeline, whatever they say.



2828. Post 54052627 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: strawbs on March 18, 2020, 03:24:09 PM
Cable going down is good for UK exports.
They export a lot of things, like....
like...
Fish and Chips
Warm Beer
Cricket

That's about it.

I'm always surprised that people outside UK think we drink warm beer. Can't say I've ever had a warm beer in my life. Beer which isn't kept in a fridge is mostly of the real ale variety, which are generally hand pumped from a barrel in a bar's cellar. British cellars are pretty cold.

They forgot to add warm and flatTongue



2829. Post 54052687 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: Torque on March 18, 2020, 02:52:53 PM
OT: Yeah sure, let's bailout the airlines again... ugh  Roll Eyes

Where is the public outrage??  Angry

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-16/u-s-airlines-spent-96-of-free-cash-flow-on-buybacks-chart

I wonder if times such as these will eventually lead to stricter rules about public companies - such as after-the-fact voiding of manager bonuses, forced state repossession of nonconforming companies and similar draconian laws. Seeing what is being imposed on the general population in the name of the common good, which is quite close to enforcing police state rules, I'd say it wouldn't be too far fetched.



2830. Post 54052751 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Exactly what I was thinking about. Not too far fetched to not have been proposed by someone, however ineffectual that may be.

Thanks for the excellent scouting. Replacing V8 as our fastestest retriever are you?



2831. Post 54127241 (copy this link) (by d_eddie) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.22h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 25, 2020, 03:25:33 PM
he said he knew how to access the coins but didn't have time to do it himself

Or did he say something about the page margin being too small to fit a description of the method?