All posts made by fragout in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 20260725 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

I see a ver block slipped in . 476702   BU   20000000   Bitcoin.com.
wtf is he at now. bitcoin.com was for bip91 yesterday



2. Post 20268946 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

So assuming Bip91 locks in shortly, what happens then? My take is that segwit activates automatically soon after and 2x in november if it gets enough miner support?. Is USAF now redundant?
Whats the next date and event we need to look out for
tks



3. Post 20269968 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on July 20, 2017, 11:08:40 PM
This is getting more scary than the dump of the last weekend!  Shocked

True .First happiness followed by fear/excitement/dread/dreams all at the same time. Plus its going to fuck up everyone's charts and lines



4. Post 20277258 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

15 of Aug 2017
Reason = I thought it would be today but it was taken and this is closest date available



5. Post 20298372 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Elwar on July 22, 2017, 07:53:27 AM
I'm thinking the person putting in the $12 million worth of bids is trying to win the ATH thing and collect the .25 BTC.

Rigged!

$15 million now and it is one guy or group as the stairway of walls are moving up with the price at the same time.

btw Is this type of thing ever done in the stock market. I know it would take a much larger investment or are there some rules in place to prevent this type of manipulation?



6. Post 20321573 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

So the UAHF is going ahead i gather. Never a dull moment. How to ye see this playing out? . Presumably Ju Ver have a plan to see their chain win. Dumping their BTC for BCC? The other side will be dumping BCC for BTC. Neutrals confidence in either will falter and they will dump both for cash.
I would love to just hibernate for a month and wake up when the dust settles



7. Post 20324228 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on July 23, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
... this bitcoin 'cash' ABC, BCC or whatever shit name they are calling it is greedy lunatics playing a very dangerous game, or simply morons. I can't tell how nutz things have gotten with r/btc any longer but it seems like it's on the way  to "Lord of the Flies' in there now. Inevitably the idiotic sociopaths pick up the conch and then it is all on ...


I think Jihan Wu thinks his fork will win and even if it dosnt, it wont be a big problem for Bitcoin as a whole. In a recent interview he stats that the Ethereum fork didnt affect the price over the longer term. I dont think the comparison is legit.



8. Post 20370970 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Well the BCC guys want the price of BTC to drop this week and hopefully get a rise on BCC futures in order to get a bit of momentum going. I hope they get burnt bad



9. Post 20377874 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Isnt BCC already taken ? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/#markets



10. Post 20399080 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/wcm/03e483a4-1421-4840-9eb3-9e642a140415

More on the possible BTC-E shut down.
The timing couldnt have been better.Sad



11. Post 20399829 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

If the BTC-e story is true, what is the likely effect it will have on the price? Some are saying that users will get their funds back as it wasnt a hack and others are saying the funds are gone with the rest of the crew 66kbtc moved.

I am surprised there hasnt been a dump on the rumours alone yet.



12. Post 20400210 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: bitserve on July 26, 2017, 02:33:33 PM
If the BTC-e story is true, what is the likely effect it will have on the price? Some are saying that users will get their funds back as it wasnt a hack and others are saying the funds are gone with the rest of the crew 66kbtc moved.

I am surprised there hasnt been a dump on the rumours alone yet.

Effect on users with funds there... probably big. Effect on price? Not that much.

BTC-E is/was mostly irrelevant nowadays. There are lots of exchanges so the impact on one is just that.

It's highly unlikely that even if the funds are being mixed/tumbled they will hit the exchanges any time soon, or ever.

I have always thought that BTC-E price was almost always lower because there is where people that wanted to avoid other more regulated exchanges would go sell their coins without worrying that much about the "discount".



Funds are moving (btc-e?). He/her/they have it down to 12k now splitting all the way into 20btc chunks mainly with a few 2500btc along the way. This is the address where we are at now. 1Md93Zw6qLYEQjUwrVZgTUhjFJ7eJK8Ehj



13. Post 20402542 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Did everyone just miss this bit ?? -
The trial of MT's CEO recently kicked off in Tokyo. Gox Mark Karpelès , who accused the hackers of the 850,000 bitcoin, worth about $ 500 million, lost in 2014. According to documents that reached 306,853 bitcoins stolen after the attack on Mt. Gox entered the BTC-e purses. According to the same documents another part of the stolen from the attack on Mt. Gox arrived at a San Francisco exchange office.



14. Post 20402834 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: becoin on July 26, 2017, 04:42:17 PM
Did everyone just miss this bit ?? -
The trial of MT's CEO recently kicked off in Tokyo. Gox Mark Karpelès , who accused the hackers of the 850,000 bitcoin, worth about $ 500 million, lost in 2014. According to documents that reached 306,853 bitcoins stolen after the attack on Mt. Gox entered the BTC-e purses. According to the same documents another part of the stolen from the attack on Mt. Gox arrived at a San Francisco exchange office.

What's that supposed to mean? Sooner or later every bitcoin (stolen or not) will "enter" some exchange. That doesn't mean that the person that sends it to the exchange is the thief!

Fair point but the powers that be like to spin it as facilitating money laundering. ie the exchange is providing a platform for the sale of stolen goods (btc)
I know its bullshit but try telling the fbi that when they come a knocking.



15. Post 20512432 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

So it looks like people are selling alts for btc to get the "free BCC" when the fork occurs. My guess is they will dump their new bcc asap and buy back their original Alts. Not a bad strategy except for the viabtc stage and the fact that i expect all Alts to rise pretty fast as these speculators come back.



16. Post 20512846 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: traincarswreck on July 31, 2017, 01:17:16 PM
So it looks like people are selling alts for btc to get the "free BCC" when the fork occurs. My guess is they will dump their new bcc asap and buy back their original Alts. Not a bad strategy except for the viabtc stage and the fact that i expect all Alts to rise pretty fast as these speculators come back.
If everyone is buying bitcoin to dump bcc, where is the value in bcc coming from?

BCC futures down 18% today and this is assuming wu/ver are supporting the price. The die is cast imo



17. Post 20520842 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: epinay on July 31, 2017, 07:33:57 PM
I'm so afraid of it! What happens tomorrow? When exactly will it be?

12 utc i believe but dont worry about it. judging by the way btc rising now, the market has decided that the fork is meaningless



18. Post 20531786 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 01, 2017, 08:45:12 AM
WTF is BIP148 Coin, Jihan is tweeting about it, and i'ts a pair on Viabtc.
Is it what comes into existence if >50% miners stops supporting BIP91, or Segwit fails to lock-in on Bip91?



Kind of sounds like a test balloon.

I am wondering why some of the folks, such as Jihan doesn't just take a bullet and begin to direct his mining power against seg wit in order that it does not lock in? 

Maybe he wants others to do the dirty work for him?  Maybe he realizes there would be a considerable backlash if he attempted such?  Maybe he realizes that others would ramp up their hash power, and maybe even miners will leave his pools? 

Maybe this is a sign that he is backing out of the stupid-ass fork of bitcoin cash?  how likely would that be?  less than 20% It is seeming pretty likely that the hardforker nutjobs are going to go through with the fork.., right?  This is where the rubber hits the road, right?  Shit or get off the pot, right?

My guess is that they lost their leverage when Bip91 locked and Segwit was coming shortly after. They still had the UAHF  which was planned to counter UASF so they decided to go ahead with it and use it as a threat if the 2X part dosnt activate in November ish.

BTC dropping fast. Looks like the games have begun



19. Post 20531879 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: podyx on August 01, 2017, 08:55:26 AM
Shouldn't people be buying to get bitcoin cash in 3 hour and 25 min?

Yes but they want them cheaper. There going to be huge swings today as the order books are so thin. Its like 180btc to get to $2900 on stamp



20. Post 20742930 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

What percentage does 2x need in order to lock in? and when will we know if its likely or not. Also if it has 90% support or so, will core still forge on with their non 2x chain?.
I thought everything was great after the BCH split went smoothly and we were finished with this uncertainty but no such luck.



21. Post 20743229 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on August 09, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
What percentage does 2x need in order to lock in? and when will we know if its likely or not. Also if it has 90% support or so, will core still forge on with their non 2x chain?.
I thought everything was great after the BCH split went smoothly and we were finished with this uncertainty but no such luck.

Consensus rules should be the same: 95%+. It is possible to make the same trick that was done for Segwit of having an intermediate BIP that once locked with a lower percentage (80%?) starts rejecting non-signaling blocks so that it forces a 95%+ on second stage.

That also sends a signal to the market that the "upgrade" is unanimously consensutated, even if it is done in a forcible way. I am ok with that.

Anything below 80% consensus for the first stage (intermediary BIP) should be considered an attack.

So at the moment, its 95% needed or perhaps 80% if another bip is introduced. If it dosnt make this, it is just not implemented and there is no new fork Y/N ?



22. Post 20821913 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: petahashminer on August 12, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
so what do you think about 2000 BTC finex wall @ $3900

will it be pulled ?


I was watching that. 600+ btc was bought  before it was pulled. He replaced it shortly after with a more staggered series of walls.

Edit : as i was about to post that, a big dump



23. Post 20821991 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.17h):

Quote from: Torque on August 12, 2017, 04:59:53 PM
So I did a little reading of the LedgerX trader's rulebook. Some encouraging things I noticed:

1) Only market/limit order buying and selling

2) No shorting, no margin trading

3) Trading only available Mon. - Fri., 9AM -5PM (so essentially only during U.S. stock market hours)

4) Credit swaps fully collateralized

5) Have to meet certain hedge fund or individual investor requirements to become a member

6) Only available to U.S. based entities

7) Trading to commence in September

Read that last night. How does it actually work though, Do they trade in real BTC and if so, where do they acquire them or is it just futures like Viabtc did with BCH



24. Post 21009830 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):

They are making a move for control and i am surprised people are just dismissing this so lightly. There are millions of $ changing hands here (over $3 billion volume). What happens if mining BCH is 2X or more profitable than BTC and the other miners jump ship on mass? .
Im getting really tired of bitcoin as a whole. Never ending drama which will imo eventually kill it.

Roger Ver‏Verified account @rogerkver  18h18 hours ago
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 The original economic code that led to Bitcoin's great success is alive and well in the form of #BitcoinCash. Watch what happens next:

If a small group can affect the bitcoin market like this, what chance has it long term against bigger players?



25. Post 21407891 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

An interesting CNBC clip in where Andrew Left states that within the next six months there will be multiple bitcoin/crypto ETFs / Instruments approved.
He also says he is shorting the Bitcoin investment trust which makes sense as its 120% over BTC price.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/08/31/short-seller-andrew-left-targets-grayscales-bitcoin-trust.html?play=1



26. Post 21493971 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

I wonder how many of these chinese officials hold bitcoin and for that matter SEC officials who make a killing shorting every time they decide to "regulate"



27. Post 21494379 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: x2666 on September 04, 2017, 09:01:31 AM
I wonder how many of these chinese officials hold bitcoin and for that matter SEC officials who make a killing shorting every time they decide to "regulate"
Psh, this is typical of the mental illness within the cryptocurrency community. There MUST be conspiracy and evil meddling afoot! There is no way that infinite ICOs which attempt to steal kid's lunch money could POSSIBLY be negative!

How will kids ever learn to be careful with their lunch money when a nanny state feels the need to protect them on every turn. And if you believe that is the reason for the ban, be extra careful with Your lunch money.



28. Post 21494847 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: x2666 on September 04, 2017, 09:18:39 AM
How will kids ever learn to be careful with their lunch money when a nanny state feels the need to protect them on every turn. And if you believe that is the reason for the ban, be extra careful with Your lunch money.
This is far from a nanny-state. These are flat out predatory ponzi schemes. It's insanity and it needs to be addressed.
If you actually care about the adoption and success of cryptocurrency you should feel the same way about ICOs.

Whether i agree with regulation or not, i do agree that the ICO thing is nuts atmo and i suppose i would have to concede that the masses need protecting from it in the same way a normal ponzi scheme is illegal. Bitcoin was and still is called a ponzi scheme though remember.

My original point though was "I wonder how many of these chinese officials hold bitcoin and for that matter SEC officials who make a killing shorting"
How else would you explain the sell off several hours before the news broke



29. Post 21510316 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):

Quote from: Denker on September 04, 2017, 05:44:45 PM
I've sold all my bitcoins, bitcoin is dead now. Sell everything while you can, I've warned you.

Awesome! And I'm buying! It's beautiful to see your orders getting filled I can tell you.
The dummies and weak hands dump, the smart ones with strong hands are picking up!

Its when i see posts like this that i start to worry. Every dead coin thread has a few "price is crashing. More cheap coins for me he he   Grin Grin Grin"



30. Post 21530009 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Sell order book on stamp is very thin. If we can push past $4300 (a mere 430btc) . its off to the races



31. Post 21770532 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

I wouldnt worry too much about what Jamie dimond says. He has been saying that for years now and his only option is to keep saying it until he dies or look like a fool (which he is)



32. Post 21770809 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Charlie Lee seems pretty confident that the Chinese Exchanges are about to banned though. It was said to him on twitter that he would lose all credibility if it wasn't true and he agreed that it (cred) was on the line.

Charlie Lee‏Verified account @SatoshiLite  1h1 hour ago
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 Yes, I am putting my credibility on the line here

Who knows. He mis-tweeted first saying Bitcoin was about to be banned. A pretty big difference and too big a mistake to make unintentionally



33. Post 21786143 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: toknormal on September 13, 2017, 09:05:23 AM

Completely WRONG! Bitcoin price is driven not by technicals but by fundamentals!
To trade bitcoin using TA during fundamental uptrend is totally unprofessional!

Completely wrong.

Where were you during the backside of the last big "China" spike in 2013 when it peaked out at $1200 ?

It had every bullish fundamental going for it - from Overstock adoption to new exchanges, to worldwide media attention to new associated fintech innovations, not to mention a ton of new wallet developers arriving on the scene.

All of that was NADA compared to the technical correction that ensued. Once the bear market kicks in, no amount of fundamentals can prevent it from running its course. A bearish crossover to a trader is a tidal reversal that no ship overcomes.


MT Gox had noting to do with that crash no Huh



34. Post 21795813 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: ghandi on September 13, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
Blasted through $3800.  Shocked

yep. There was a decent wall there too on stamp.
Someone draw a triangle or cup and handle or something which points arrows to the moon



35. Post 21799764 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: ft73 on September 13, 2017, 04:23:40 PM
In the news:

China Internet Finance Association: Bitcoin Exchanges Lack 'Legal Foundation'
https://www.coindesk.com/china-internet-finance-association-bitcoin-exchanges-lack-legal-foundation/

China's internet finance body urges members not to deal in cryptocurrencies
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-bitcoin/chinas-internet-finance-body-urges-members-not-to-deal-in-cryptocurrencies-idUSKCN1BO23E

Quote
“We urge all our members to exercise self-regulation and strictly abide by laws by not participating in any centralized trading or provide services for this type of trading,” the National Internet Finance Association of China said in a notice on its website www.nifa.org.cn

So bottom line would be "self regulation" ?
No more than a slap in the face, so far.

Hmm "strictly abide by laws by not participating in any centralized trading or provide services for this type of trading"
Seems to me as - close down on your own accord OR else



36. Post 21822068 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 14, 2017, 06:59:36 AM
https://themerkle.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-will-likely-not-be-banned-after-all/

Surprise.

Seems Charlie Lee who broke the story of the ban from his trusted source has deleted all tweets he made about it



37. Post 21824541 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Dump led by china again. News they they have that we dont have or more manipulation ?



38. Post 21825108 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

What ever happend to sell on the rumor and buy on the news. The good news though is stamp and others are not following the chinese exchanges prices blindly. Still dropping but not as hard. Hopefully after today we will find the bottom.
Im calling $3134 max



39. Post 21825606 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on September 14, 2017, 11:22:48 AM

Finally. I have seen others mentioning OKcoin and Huobi will stay open. I wonder what the deal is with that or whether it's just more bilge.

Probably want to time their announcement to create most effect and gather up as much cheap btc as possible. They always made a joint announcement previously. Also how come the owner of BTCCs brother knew this was coming a few days ago and they decide to announce the closure today.

Also BTCC said in the tweet that they are closing based on what the chinese gov said on 9/04 which was the ICO ban. Something is amiss and afaik the gov hasnt banned exchanges yet. At least officially



40. Post 21838855 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

Quote from: Torque on September 14, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
If the PBoC really intends to shut down the Chinese exchanges for a brief period of time in October, that can only mean one thing.

That some global tomfuckery shenanigans are about to go down in Oct/Nov. timeframe or perhaps Q1 2018, and that they don't want a stampede IN to bitcoin.

You could be very right about that. Only, I think they will just provoke the stampede by their actions... .

Wanna wager a guess at what it will be?

My bet is on something happening with Qatar. Saudi Arabia (at the behest of the U.S. deep state) has been busy painting Qatar as an epicenter for Islamic terrorists, and tying them closely with Iran. Which is like a pot calling a kettle black. But no matter, they've managed to keep going deeper with that false narrative and it's likely all leading up to eventually painting them as a scapegoat.

Scapegoat for what? Likely another terrorist attack somewhere, with the terrorists "conveniently" being found to originate from Qatar. Que the global retaliation.

And it's all over LNG. That's all it is about.

I agree with you. Been watching the Qatar bullshit for awhile an put it down to Saudi wanting the mole removed from its map. Of course the US is backing the deal who also want to take down Iran at some stage. N.Korea is slowing down those plans though atmo.

ATH prediction Dec 15th as the 2X drama should be over for a bit and a it gives enough time to get over this dump. It could also be the year low though Smiley



41. Post 21840256 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

ATH prediction Dec 10th (15th was taken) as the 2X drama should be over for a bit and a it gives enough time to get over this dump. It could also be the year low though



42. Post 21842073 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):

I just went back to the 16th of july in this very thread (the last crash). Its almost a copy/paste of now. Strangely reassuring though for those of you that are sweating atmo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.344640

Best comment i came across was " i just set up my suicide machine and linked it to a price ticker"



43. Post 21865951 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: ParabellumLite on September 15, 2017, 01:16:23 PM
Is this another bulltrap? But bigger this time?

3500 maybe then down again if the bubble theory applies

but we'll see

Damn trading is hell i almost lose my mind these last 2 days that was painful

Probably. Expect a rise to the 3500-4000 USD level in the next couple of days, followed by the bear leg to 2500 USD.

Why a bear leg to 2500?? Unless there is more "shock news" why do you assume btc would drop again (if it does recover to 4k)? Not saying your wrong as i saw something similar mentioned earlier on this thread but curious as to the reasoning



44. Post 21890573 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on September 16, 2017, 07:49:43 AM
Well, I don't want to jinx things, but it looks like the pricing volatility over the last 72 hours is finally starting to normalize.

Ain't gonna lie. That 25% swing over the last few days was felt in my crotch area for a little bit, there - A most unpleasant sensation.

We now return to our regularly scheduled moon-shot.

I hope.

I hear ya. It felt a little bit like a serious kick in the balls but in reverse, as in the pain increased slowly.

I am still worried though as the chart is behaving eerily similar to the 2013 crash. History repeats and all that.



45. Post 21892525 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Some whale having his saturday morning kicks on bitstamp with a creeping 500btc wall. As if we really need another action day



46. Post 22070961 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 21, 2017, 12:37:36 PM
wait satoshi wants us to pull down our pants Huh
https://youtu.be/SMgzzF6XmEc
Simon Dixon was at the 'Shape the Future' Conference in Hong Kong where Craig Wright shares his thoughts on Bitcoin Cash. Simon Dixon pushes for a direct answer on nChain and whether Craig will be working on Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash as well as some questions related to Blockstream and bChain investors.

I really don't see how anyone can seriously take this guy to be Satoshi

He's a steaming pile of ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvqn87iAz8

Attention seeking whore. He is a great ambassador for bitcoin. The sooner he is outed the better



47. Post 22108498 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on September 22, 2017, 01:01:05 PM
Also won't this cause massive shorting? IDK.

Ding ding ding. It's happening right now.


I mean when it's open for business. Won't the price swings get far more violent?

No clue here but i saw this in the comments section. - RTFM! "bitcoin..in account.. at least equal to the number of Exchange Contracts it wishes to sell" That means full reserve no naked shorts.



48. Post 22108901 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):

THis LedgerX thing is a joke. Tiny limits allowed :0--

F. Contract   Size.      Each   Contract   will   be   for   a   single   Underlying   (i.e., one   bitcoin).

G. Position   Limits.      As   of   any   date   of determination,   

no   person   will   own   or control   
positions   in   excess   of   100,000   Contracts.



So you are not allowed to own more than 100k btc per person. I wonder could you get 200k using the wifes account ? Smiley



49. Post 22208681 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on September 25, 2017, 02:31:29 PM
Just broke bearish trend for no reason whatsoever.
Either is inside trading or someone is playing with us. No idea how to read this...

Ascending triangle + reverse head and shoulders = Breakout obviously

dunno really but sounds as good as most TA here Smiley



50. Post 22286059 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: vroom on September 27, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
Honestly, its never too late to join bitcoin.

I find the whole idea of people saying that it's "too late" to join Bitcoin a ridiculous notion. To me it's like saying it's "too late to get internet", "too late to join Facebook", or "too late to get a smart phone." "Damn, I missed out on that whole Internet revolution!"

A nonsensical phrase. At no point in time now or in the future will anyone be "missing out" on getting some Bitcoin.

If they mean that it's too late to make a ton of money with Bitcoin, then they need to re-evaluate their notion of what money is. Should I say, "Well it's too late to buy Gold because I can't get it for $0.10/oz. valuation like my ancestors were able to."  ? Roll Eyes

I don't get that either. I think it would help if we would start talking about satoshi / fiat exchange rates. If these people see 1 BTC = 4000 USD, they think it's to late to buy. But most likely some of these people would buy if they see a exchange rate of 1 Sat = 0.00004 USD.

The effect of this is very much underestimated imo. Loads of my friends and family think its too late or they cant afford $4k. I dont tell them its not too late as i dont want to be responsible for them losing money but i do tell them that you can buy a fraction of a bitcoin. This is usually dismissed by them and I suppose its human nature to want 1 or more of something rather than a piece.
I think though if we were to use the SAT valuation, you need to somehow tie it to BTC better so the average joe understands the SAT is not just another shitcoin. I mean look at the Table of units. Do nerds intentionally try and confuse-https://imgur.com/a/fyJNS



51. Post 22319880 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

So whats caused all the spam in the mempool?- no prizes.

The spam outputs, generated by the first four waves of fan-out transactions, had been starting to move since autumn of 2015 — sort of. Whoever controlled these addresses had been broadcasting transactions to spend these outputs over the network. However, for a long time, miners did not include these “spam broadcasts” in their blocks; the transactions were ignored.

Up until the second half of 2016, that is. At a very specific point in time, a group of seven mining pools started to suddenly accept these spam broadcasts and include them in the blocks they mined: 1-Hash, Antpool, BitClub Network, BTC.com, HaoBTC, KanoCKPool and ViaBTC.

Full article - https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/curious-case-bitcoins-moby-dick-spam-and-miners-confirmed-it/



52. Post 22504802 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

The dip is gathering pace. $4250 is the resistance line so hopefully it will hold. Is there any news event that us peasants dont know about yet that triggered this or is it just your standard manipulation



53. Post 22513154 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Im starting to slowly convert to the conspiracy camp. To see people involved in bitcoin and the crypto scene do everything in their power to kill or dilute the very thing they have claimed to support dosnt make any sense to me. I cant justify it by egos or self interest alone. Usually the simplest answer is the correct one-Big money dont want you messing with their toys



54. Post 22544589 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

I was always sceptical of TA when it comes to bitcoin but is that not a perfect head and shoulders in the bitstamp hourly? pls say no

https://imgur.com/3nK0IdZ



55. Post 22552820 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 04, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
I was always sceptical of TA when it comes to bitcoin but is that not a perfect head and shoulders in the bitstamp hourly? pls say no

https://imgur.com/3nK0IdZ

But this was good head and shoulder if you bought on the dip and because now we have a trend line hopefully

To me it looks like the trend line has been broken -



56. Post 22590119 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Nice to wake up and see we have a new bearish trend confirmed:(


What bearish trend? Stop spreading panic.

Mate this is a price tracking thread, I am discussing the price and if you feel paniced because you read a random guy saying he sees a downtrend maybe you should not look here

I think he is referring to the confirmed bit



57. Post 22592564 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 05, 2017, 10:19:18 AM
Nice to wake up and see we have a new bearish trend confirmed:(


What bearish trend? Stop spreading panic.

Mate this is a price tracking thread, I am discussing the price and if you feel paniced because you read a random guy saying he sees a downtrend maybe you should not look here

I think he is referring to the confirmed bit

Is it not though? :/


The price dropped for 2 days. If you want to confirm that as a bearish trend, fair enough



58. Post 22764747 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):

Quote from: Icygreen on October 09, 2017, 04:37:53 AM
Can anyone simply explain why a GPU mined network wouldn't work or be supported? In the future I somehow see users validating the network by simply holding or using bitcoin on a lightweight client. Not that I'd like to fork off to try but something like how torrents work where users validate the content. GPU mining sounds like a step in that direction although I have no real technical understanding on the matter. I suppose that's what I'm asking for and I'd rather hear it here than on a fanboy page.   

Of course gpu mining would work for a time. What do you think Litecoin is? Its a btc fork which uses gpus. At least that was the plan until scrypt miners were born.
But lets say BTC switched to GPUs only tomorrow. The mining farms would just switch out their ASICs for GPUs and your back to square one.
The problem is POW and another solution will have to come at some point



59. Post 22895294 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Any news to trigger the lastest pump? Did LedgerX launch today?



60. Post 22898136 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Just saw that cnbc are reporting that china are considering reversing bitcoin ban -
Speculation that China could reverse the ban of cryptocurrency exchanges is driving sentiment



61. Post 22902434 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

750 btc @5250 wall on finex just got demolished in minutes. - crazy



62. Post 22904025 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on October 12, 2017, 11:36:41 AM
Wow this will end badly and with a lot of newbie blood Shocked

We might see more and more attacks on Bitcoin from govs/banks soon.

You would be a great guy to invite to a party (sarcasm)
We have plenty of scars and blood loss over the years. The newbies will be just fine



63. Post 22911865 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

$76 million buy orders on stamp vs 1800 btc sells. Up about $10 million from this morning



64. Post 22993909 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):


Symmetrical triangle. Break coming soon. Upside or Downside - That is the question




65. Post 22997320 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: fragout on October 14, 2017, 09:26:50 AM

Symmetrical triangle. Break coming soon. Upside or Downside - That is the question





As predicted - Breakout - to the upside which is nice. I would have prefered this to happen Monday though but ill take it.




66. Post 23131443 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Ascending triangle forming again. Prediction - Price will stay between the lines as the triangle narrows followed by a breakout next week. possibly after the bitcoin gold fork.

Disclaimer : I know not what i do




67. Post 23282770 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):



Unbelievable - Its been some run for BTC since January for sure.

Ps. Is Bitcointalk really slow for everyone today?



68. Post 23290716 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):

Quote from: Torque on October 20, 2017, 07:52:40 PM

Its definitely him chaps. I don't quite understand the animosity TBH  Huh


Wait... so you actually believe that snake oil-selling narcissistic scammer is Satoshi? Based on what, his word?

Proof or GTFO. The animosity is that people like him should be called out for their lies, not applauded.

The fact that he falsified his blog is enough for me.
I actually dont care if he is or isnt but obviously I would like it to be a more likable person.
For a guy who said he wanted privacy after the "outing" , he sure is doing the opposite.
Perhaps satoshi is an asshole.




69. Post 23322383 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: bitebits on October 21, 2017, 01:56:53 PM
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/921701035491573761

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Charlie Lee [NO2X]‏
@SatoshiLite

My trade with Roger Ver is all set. Here are the terms we agreed to. Let the chips fall where they may! 🚀

Stubborn man and stupid in this case. Charlie can hedge the bet for 32btc on the 2x futures market



70. Post 23331471 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: Ibian on October 21, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
I think, theres no TA applicable here, it`s all emotions, for the moment .

I say, that looks like quite the bubble! No way it can keep going up!

Must have been hard to hodl during that crash from 40c to 20c. One would need strong hands to hold out under that pressure



71. Post 23359044 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on October 22, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
[edit] not to mention that we're hitting a ceiling:


https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSDT/vH8p4FLI-Bitcoin-Market-Overview/

It seems like we are touching the top, which is worrying me a bit... The chart you posted is not using a log scale (It took me a while to figure out why the dip initially), which means that we are having a peak earlier than the previous peak, if you see what I mean. The past two peaks did follow a log trendline, not to mention that the past crash was probably due to china.
Maybe we are getting more crashes but less severe... At least I hope. On a log scale, I expected the top to be ~7k


I agree with the 7k top. I think we could be here (orange circle) and a further bump is coming. What happens then is anyone's guess but unless there is another china ban type scenario, i wouldn't expect a similar drop.
There has been a shitload of media coverage over the weekend. Just saw a panel discuss bitcoin on bloomberg for about 40 minutes. 3 guests and the interviewer and all were positive BTC.
Also its Sunday and there is $80 million buy orders on stamp.




72. Post 23459837 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on October 24, 2017, 09:33:26 AM
All this talk about people & Bitcoin...

Over the years I have dealt with so many people asking about Bitcoin. It's uncanny how exactly alike all their thought processes are:

2013: wtf is this shit, it's a bubble, nerd money, governments will destroy it, it doesn't have any value because it's not regulated/controlled. It's too late to buy now anyway.
2014: told you it was crap nobody cares
2015: *crickets*
2016: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago. You are so lucky!! Now it's too late for me.
2017: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago. You are so lucky. Now it's too expensive for me. I realize I can buy just a fraction but my ego doesn't allow me to be content with just a fraction of an arbitrary numerical division of the thing. But have you heard about Ethereum? Or Shitcoin xyz? Someone said it's the next Bitcoin and it has been going up and I can actually afford to buy one! *proceeds to not buy anything*
2018: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago...

I don't care. I don't preach. All I do is explain the technology and its implications for society to those who show genuine interest. Why should I wish unjust rewards on those who clearly don't deserve them? Bitcoin is a revolutionary technology with a promise of changing society to the better. Because it is a monetary technology, those of us with enough vision to see the potential, risk our own money and enough nerve to hold through the FUD, haters, bear markets, hacks and laughter get rewarded. Simple as that. The guy who laughed it off in 2014 and felt he "missed the boat" in 2017 will end up buying some in 2023 together with his gradma.

This sums it up perfectly. I have a good friend that i introduced to bitcoin in 2013 when it was around $100. He was more or less convinced and pledged to buy 1 (both he and I were pretty broke at the time).
Alas he didn't and bitcoin went on its first big pump to $1200. He was not pleased. As btc crashed though, he became more confident that he made the right choice.
Today we are still good friends but i dare not bring up the subject of bitcoin



73. Post 23531675 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on October 25, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
I'm happy to be proved wrong here but this is how I feel about the forks...

BCH - sold pretty much all straight away and did extremely well out of it and boosted my btc holdings.

Bgold - looks like it could be a waste of time and worth nothing more than a couple of potatoes each + no replay protection

2x - a real spanner in the works, no replay protection and creates yet more FUD and confusion on exchanges.


Personally I want the forks to fork off. I am slightly worried about doing anything with these coins due to the lack of replay protection which potentially could jeopardise my btc.


This Bgold smells fishy to me. From the very beginning when they released their copy and paste website put together by a dyslexic 7 year old. I'm not even going to take the language barrier as an excuse. If you are going to release something like this then start by making a decent web page.




Does everyone think the 2X fork will actually go ahead now that jeff garzik will be concentrating on his wondercoin and the fact that the 2x futures are now trading at $130~?



74. Post 23568238 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

Quote from: ghandi on October 26, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
Looks like someone really believes amazon is going to throw the bomb in today...


Is there any schedule known, when the event starts?

I dont know but is this btc pump related (word is out perhaps)?



75. Post 23820879 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):

2800 btc for sale on bitstamp today. $91.5 million in buy orders. This up from $60 million a few short months ago



76. Post 23900505 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Amazon just bought three domain names related to cryptocurrency
Amazon has registered three new cryptocurrency-related domains, according to trade publication DomainNameWire.
The domains are amazonethereum.com, amazoncryptocurrency.com, amazoncryptocurrencies.com.
Amazon already owns the "amazonbitcoin.com" domain name, according to Coindesk.



77. Post 23920037 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: toknormal on November 02, 2017, 10:14:11 AM

Panic buys on stamp.

200 BTC wall @ 7k chomped in a single gulp.

The correction's gonna be ugly.


Very close to $100,000,000 buy orders on stamp now with only 2700btc available on the sell side.



78. Post 23921289 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: petahashminer on November 02, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
ANY resistance points?

resistance is futile!

We just past the 100 milion in buy orders on stamp vs 2500 btc 4sale. Money is pouring into exchanges it seems with a very low supply of bitcoin.



79. Post 23922388 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Motion sickness beginning to set in. I dont think the dump will gain any traction without some fud news.



80. Post 23971954 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Wtf is going on in bitstamp. seems some bot is buying fractions of bitcoin every couple of seconds.  Turn on sound for effect:)  https://www.bitstamp.net/market/tradeview/

Edit, seems to have stopped now



81. Post 23972352 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: mike4001 on November 03, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
New day, new ATH. Boring.


Only a messed up hardfork can do us any harm now Cheesy

Who would be so stupid to have a hard fork now? Not only could it be messed up, it could be disastrous.
Imagine if bitcoin was cocaine and large holders were a cartel and some nerds tried to launch fake coke.
Obviously all large holders are not cartel like but i am sure there are some.
Jamie diamond might be right about one thing like people may die

Disclaimer: been watching a lot of Narcos .



82. Post 24030351 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

I dont think enough people get that 2X isnt or might not be just another free airdrop. The only scenario that both chains survive is if replay protection is included in either one. Both sides have no plans for this, so its going to be a battle which only one side will prevail. To make matters worse, the winning conditions are not even agreed upon. One side says hash rate majority wins and the other says market cap.
To me the very fact that a battle even exists when btc is hitting records in both marketcap and mainstream attention is just baffling



83. Post 24044342 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Quote from: Lauda on November 04, 2017, 08:17:26 PM
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Bitstamp | Total bids: 118658286 USD. Total asks: 2360 BTC. Ratio: 50265.65999 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0184 seconds
Surprises me every other day.

I know. I started following this religiously too after seeing your posts a few months back. Unless there is a big inflow of btc the price has no choice but to explode. I expect its the same story in the other big exchanges



84. Post 24222779 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Hodl.. This is coming to a Lambo dealer near you (maybe)




85. Post 24247707 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):


How will this affect the price of btc over the coming days i wonder. I wonder how much money actually came in to btc in order to receive the free drop of 2X.



86. Post 24249739 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):

Money pouring back into Alts now that there is no free 2x



87. Post 24283241 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Why are B2X futures still trading and rising in value Huh?? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/



88. Post 24283423 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: yefi on November 09, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
With CME going live in less than a week, alts better watch their game. This may still be a premature rotation...

Im slightly confused on how CME will affect the price of bitcoin as there is no actual bitcoin bought in their trades and people using CME are basically just betting on the future price. Or have i got it totally wrong?



89. Post 24343572 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on November 10, 2017, 11:24:26 AM
I'm telling myself price being pushed down before big CME pump.

Please say it's true.


Or we dead?

BCH pump
B2X Pump Huh??
BTC dump






90. Post 24398293 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Trend line still intact. Possible bottom at $6440 unless the line is broken of course.




91. Post 24403834 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Its so obvious to all here that BCH pump is Ver/Wu but probably not to the average investor. Im really disillusioned atmo that a very small group can manipulate an entire market in this way.
He even announced it on twitter before the pump. "#BitcoinCash will win wider adoption than 1MB Segwit Bitoin shortly." 19 hours ago.
Possible with fake money too such as the 30 million tether that was issued a few days ago.





92. Post 24427521 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: DaRude on November 12, 2017, 12:00:27 AM

If I had sold some more than I did in the 7K now I would stack some bids between 4.5K and 6K. I expected a strong correction since the high 5K in October so this is nothing yet for the moment. But it's to be seen if the huge backlog in the mempool persists thanks to the ongoing spam attack and the halving of hashing power could start a panic as the bitches hope.

I wonder how much an effect the lowering of hashing power will have. let's face it, most people who buy btc do so to hold it, and the hash rate has no effect on transfering fiat to the exchanges to buy btc. I don't think slower blocks matter at all, might actually slow down the selling it it slows people from transfering from cold storage to the exchange.

edit:
and this confirms that BCH is a totally fake pump:

sure does


Unless significant hash power leaves all at once, no effect. On that note when is the next retargeting, most likely that's when they'll act

November 10th was the last adjustment (btc). Because of the slower block times now, its 19 days until the next with a current estimate of -24%. So expect the battle to continue until then at least and it could get worse as BCH is much more profitable to mine atmo. When does BCH retarget though?



93. Post 24453159 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Hyperjacked on November 12, 2017, 12:48:48 PM
Congrats. Bitcoin is successfully cleaning itself from Wus, Vers, Rights, and other rats. Future for Bitcoin is bright!

Mostly like your post .... short and straight to the point

Craig Wright - Fake Satoshi who tried to con everybody.
Roger - Who told you Mt Gox and Bitcoin Unlimited were safe, and joined all possible BTC fork initiatives since day one.
Jihan - Mining/chip mafia leader and Antbleed purveyor.

What could possibly go wrong with BCH?

To everybody that tries to make money by "trading" BCH. Don't let those stooges make money from you! It is a highly centralized insiders market. If you still have some crapcoins unsold just sell them and let the gang boil in their own sauce.




And that 's also why we should not cry victory yet. It ain 't over yet.

It's only just begun...

The hash rate speaks volume  Grin

https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate


This "should" swing back after tomorrow though when BCH new difficulty adjustment feature kicks in.



94. Post 24499954 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Heater on November 13, 2017, 09:32:34 AM
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Bitstamp | Total bids: 103103343 USD. Total asks: 4826 BTC. Ratio: 21359.80747 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0981 seconds

Lauda  - where do you get this data from? Is the historical data available somewhere?

https://www.bitstamp.net/market/tradeview/

I dont think there is any historical data available but it has been around the $60 million area up until recently



95. Post 24505180 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Bitcoin cash pump is old news. Its the Bitcoin Plus pump is where its at today

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xbc

Btc doing gooood too.
W for the win --




96. Post 24614416 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 15, 2017, 09:10:59 AM
The good thing for Bitcoin is that the recent rise appears to have low correlation with any movements in BCH. This means that the recent rise does not come from BCH holders playing the markets and moving their coins back and forth, but possibly from genuine, new investors intending to keep their coins and support BTC, especially now that there are no forks on the horizon to cause uncertainty.

Could this mean that we are heading for some stability and a rise to a new ATH and beyond? I hope so.

The Choo-Choo is revving and standing by...

Its the first thing i checked as well. Its not a swing from other Alts either. A clean break through $7k is needed to confirm the resumption of the bull



97. Post 24627758 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):



Bcash news .Approximately 36 hours after the upgrade, a new block has been mined using the old protocol rules. This block 504032 is invalid...

Its being called bitcoin cash classic . Satoshis true vision without ver,wu Smiley

from twitter "I love block 504032. Everybody please run a #bcash node v16.0 to support the classic chain: https://download.bitcoinabc.org/0.16.0/  Don't forget to demand airdrops on both chains from your exchanges and wallet providers."



98. Post 24672444 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: flynn on November 16, 2017, 09:09:35 AM
Where are the BCH boyz ? They seem quiet lately

Both Ver and Wu are pumping out tweets in what seems like, oh shit what have we done, this is backfiring



99. Post 24673130 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: flynn on November 16, 2017, 10:19:57 AM
Where are the BCH boyz ? They seem quiet lately

Both Ver and Wu are pumping out tweets in what seems like, oh shit what have we done, this is backfiring

links or it didn't happen

?? twitter or actually the volume of tweets



100. Post 24685362 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 16, 2017, 02:15:26 PM
In a gold rush, the money's in selling shovels. Cash up front, please.

Shovel - 1860: $0.96 c
Shovel - 2017: $6.00


Gold - 1860: $20.67/oz.
Gold - 2017: $1280/oz.

I don't think shovels were the better long term investment though.  Wink

Wow. Shovels gone up to $6.00!! Im calling a top here. This is worse than tulips. fraud.

Actually a very good name for a new shit coin. The money is in shovels after all



101. Post 24708110 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 16, 2017, 10:32:20 PM

Sounds like creating a bitcoin bank with 100 reserve. Is that really new?


Nope. But I assume the price of entry includes a bunch of assurances and backups that allows any deep pocket to pile in without the need to account for any type of security arrangements whatsoever, plus auditing and accounting for anything else they want or need.

That's a large barrier of entry dealt with there and then. I doubt most of the insane trillionaires could operate a Trezor.

What is the pricing?
There is an initial setup fee of $100,000 USD, and a fee of 10 basis points per month on assets stored. Note that pricing is subject to change as we continue rolling out early access.

Easy money if you can get it i guess



102. Post 24954690 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Managed to sell my few bitcoin gold yesterday at the bottom ($70). My timing is still perfect when judging a bottom or top



103. Post 24956837 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Tether website gone offline. $30 million "hack" last night. Not liking this



104. Post 24958525 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Cassius on November 21, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
Tether website gone offline. $30 million "hack" last night. Not liking this

I cannot imagine what taking USDT out of play would do to the ecosystem at this point.

Thats only part of the potential problem. If they (bitfinex/tether) were issuing tether without any backing ($670 million remember) and using margin on top of that to pump btc, We are in a lot bigger trouble. Not only will everyone who holds tether have a worthless token but we have no idea what any coin is actually worth in the real market.
Its been 24hours since bitfinex said they would be releasing an official statement.

I might be getting paranoid here but it feels like de ja vu (goxed)



105. Post 24959711 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Cassius on November 21, 2017, 01:49:16 PM
Tether website gone offline. $30 million "hack" last night. Not liking this

I cannot imagine what taking USDT out of play would do to the ecosystem at this point.

Thats only part of the potential problem. If they (bitfinex/tether) were issuing tether without any backing ($670 million remember) and using margin on top of that to pump btc, We are in a lot bigger trouble. Not only will everyone who holds tether have a worthless token but we have no idea what any coin is actually worth in the real market.
Its been 24hours since bitfinex said they would be releasing an official statement.

I might be getting paranoid here but it feels like de ja vu (goxed)

I don't think it's paranoia if it's happened before. More like suspicion or realism Smiley
Worst case scenario it does look like a Willy/Gox situation, with QE USDT being used to inflate BTC prices. But I don't think it will be that bad. Even if USDT is a fractional reserve, which would be no trivial thing, it accounts for a relatively small proportion of the market and broader demand is growing fast.
Not a picnic, but no Gox/China ban scenario either.

Broader demand is growing because btc is mooning all year long which is making constant headlines. USDT is on almost all exchanges and $670 million with X10 margin is far from a small proportion of the market. Imagine the headlines if the sudden price rise this year is attributed to tether.
When gox happened btc was a much smaller eco system. If it happens again, its going to take years to recover if ever.



106. Post 24974988 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Logic-Elliven on November 21, 2017, 06:29:21 PM
Thx for the fake wallet info.

Heres another one:

Bitcoin Wallet Bamboozle: Bitcoin.com Offering Bitcoin Cash Wallet, Calling it “Bitcoin”
http://entrepreneurs-success.com/bitcoin-wallet-bamboozle-bitcoin-com-offering-bitcoin-cash-wallet-calling-bitcoin/


He has gone full retard. Here is his latest tweet -
Thanks to the Streisand effect caused by liars claiming our Bitcoin wallet is deceiving people into using #BitcoinCash  we grew our user base by about 10% in just the last day. Thanks for the pump! https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/bitcoin-com-wallet

There is no mention on bitcoin.com that you are downloading the bcash wallet. It even shows screenshots of a btc wallet.
There is a huge negative rating on the IOS and android store pages and the 10% bump he is getting is people downloading the wallets to give a negative review



107. Post 24977309 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 21, 2017, 07:20:38 PM
m/39B is capable of penetrating 50 layers of  kevlar, 7 cm brick or 25 cm wood. It also penetrates body armour class IIIA.
http://www.amkat.se/index.php?Env=Ammo&Menu_A=30&Menu_B=40&Menu_C=10&Menu_Value_A=9x19&Menu_Value_B=Ball&Menu_Name=Ball

Oh my ! TIL !

Hmm. I don't get the claims. In the end, it's only about 105 grains moving at 1345 fps. That's about +P ballistics - not even +P+. Steel ogive over lead. Where's the magic?

Sold all my 9mm stuff a couple years ago. But Kimber's been trying to drag me back.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-9-covert-1

That'd make a nice backup.

Get a room or range i guess



108. Post 25040236 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 22, 2017, 08:16:10 PM
They are funding the production run with the presale.

So they take our money, experience "production delays" while the hashrate coincidentally skyrockets, and finally deliver once ROI dropps off.

Ive seen this show before.

butterfly labs. ah the memories



109. Post 25129716 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

I wonder if this is the last roger/wu pump? . A guy could be making serious coin here if they keep it up. The volume spike at the start of the pump is so obvious. You would get the double whammy of btc dropping while bcash rises. Its just a matter of timing the exit but even if you get it wrong you are just back to break even.

On reflection though, I wonder if this is what they are banking on? . The next time, all they need to do is kick start the pump and the whales will jump on board and feed the pump for them. Easy profit then for them.

On a side note. roger/wu must have a shitload of bcash built up from their mining operations at this stage which they obviously are not selling as they seek to increase the price



110. Post 25169336 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 25, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
Hilarious article from The Telegraph.

Quote
The Bitcoin bubble will burst. It's time for a 'Bitpound'

 
Bitcoin is enjoying unprecedented growth this year, but its value fluctuates widely Credit: Dan Kitwood/ Getty
As I write, Bitcoin is trading at a new high of £6,305. If you had bought one Bitcoin in September, you could by now have made £3,860.

The relentless rise of Bitcoin - a digital currency that can be used to store and save money privately, without the need for banks or names - has defied all expectations. Some have even wondered if the financial experts who have called it 'a fraud' were being deliberately disparaging to protect their own interests.

Bitcoin has given good return to investors, but make no mistake: this is not a bonafide currency, and those who buy it are taking a mighty roll of the dice.

Sweden has put serious thought into launching its own digital currency; China’s central bank is actually testing a prototype

For a start, its value fluctuates widely. The current rally comes on the back of a steep fall last week that saw prices fall to $5,500. So, in a single week, its value increased by 47 percent. If your savings were in Bitcoin, you would go to bed not knowing if you'll be able to afford a Bugatti or just a baguette the next day. The constant fluctuations also mean Bitcoin cannot be used to price goods. And it is worthless as a medium of exchange as hardly anyone accepts it and even when they do, it costs up to $12 per transaction and can take hours to clear.

So, hype aside, Bitcoins are lottery tickets. They have no underlying utility. When the music stops, those left holding them will be burned.

One potential remedy is for central banks to issue their own digital tokens, to show what a real e-currency should look like. A BitPound would have the same value as cash and be backed by the Bank of England, making it stable and universally accepted. Sweden has put serious thought into launching its own digital currency; China’s central bank is actually testing a prototype.

So what could it do for us? Our economies are moving from cash to digital transactions -  cards now account for more than half of all payments in the UK, and online payments for more than one in ten. An e-Pound could make these payment systems fairer - because private payment providers wouldn't be able to exploit their market dominance and charge extortionate fees - and better protected from cyber attacks.

With BitPound deposits, there would be no threat of savings vanishing if banks collapse because consumers would have a direct claim on the central bank itself

An e-Pound would also help the UK fight fraud. Transactions would be linked to accounts at the BoE and so there would be a clear trail of all transactions from the moment a new currency is created. Some have even suggested making e-currencies trackable. While this does raise privacy concerns, it would stop everything from minors buying alcohol to money laundering and tax evasion.

Finally, BitPound deposits would be a secure way to save. There would be no threat of savings vanishing if banks collapse because consumers would have a direct claim on the central bank itself.

The problem is that creating this direct link between consumers and the Bank of England could deprive banks of the deposits they use to create loans. Banks, then, would have to redesign their operating models by, say, offering higher savings rates or the BoE would have to recompense them with the proceeds paid back to the public purse.

There are risks and unanswered questions, but it's time to think seriously about a BitPound - to expose private cryptocurrencies for the wild gamble they are, and make an increasingly digital payment system safe and robust.

Bitpound eh. Sounds good.
There has been many silly articles about btc over the years but this guy takes the biscuit. Did he write this while taking a dump and spouted out the first thoughts that came into his mind while also concentrating on said dump?



111. Post 25193122 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

1300 btc left on bitstamp. $110 million buy orders



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113. Post 25281572 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 27, 2017, 12:53:53 AM
Its definitely positive. It means everyone with a brokerage account suddenly has access to bitcoin without having to deposit onto a third party exchange they might not trust, and they can go in and out of bitcoin trades next to their stock trades. It means massive liquidity. Think billions of dollars suddenly added to the finex order book. Possibly with leverage too. I posted on here some time in 2013 or 2014 a prediction that if BTC were to be integrated with standard brokers, the price would immediately surge to $10K. This is what the rally has been all about.

I was under the impression that CME futures did not touch Bitcoin directly at any moment during the entire process. It's USD all the way. Am I wrong?
They are futures contracts which means eventually at some date on the contract, the exchange has to buy actual bitcoins and deliver them. In addition, the futures prices will move the bitcoin price by mere arbitrage.

Sorry but no. They are cash settled.  It is a fiat bet on bitcoin price in $.  Nothing more.

Other players will move BTC price by arb.  

This is correct. Cash settled.
could you explain the arb angle though?



114. Post 25302910 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 27, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
We are all gonna die!

No, we're going to live, and being poor we'll suffer more...
And then we'll die too...

imagine price would drop to 5k now. that was the moment in dec 2013 when the original "I hodl my btc" thread/meme was born. (when it dropped to the 400 region). well, actually price has to hit 12k first.  Wink

Sometimes when BTC prices are moving a lot, I have some difficulties honing in on my thoughts about price direction.

After we had gotten through our $6,800 to $7,800 resistance range, I had suggested that $9600 to $13400 would be the next resistance range  - but surely a bit broad and amorphous to consider such a large range.

Here's my current tentative honing in:

As I type the ATH on bitstamp is $9,721, and currently, we are correcting in the $9,300 to $9,500 arena.

Based on how the BTC price seems to be approaching $10k.. and kind of hesitating in the sub-$10k arena, I am thinking that BTC prices have a pretty decent odds of breaking above $10k in the coming day(s), perhaps in the 65% range, and then once we break above $10k, then there is likely going to be a 15% to 25% blow off of price movements above $10k.. perhaps with similar kinds of probabilities... so that would bring us to a range of $11,500 to $12,500-ish.

I cannot really see decent chances of breaking above that 15% to 25% range without some kind of meaningful price correction approaching 40% or more, and then we would have to see how quickly the BTC prices were to recover from such a decent-sized downwards correction before making the next call.

If we break above $13k on this particular price go-around then we will likely have very decent odds for a bit more UP prices from there.. perhaps in the 30% or more range above $13k, which would likely be in the $16k to $19k territory, but I really have a tough time foreseeing any kind of break above $13k in this go around and especially before some kind of meaningful downward BTC price correction that would occur just prior to reaching $13k.

That's my tentative working theory, that I just made up a few minutes ago.   Shocked

Interesting but is this based on normal market behaviour?
 As we are now in uncharted territory and there is a shitload of new money coming in to the eco system. Even some of my friends who continued for years to say bitcoin was a joke cant take the pain anymore and are jumping in. Look at the numbers on coinbase. Also there has to be a lot of big money players who are coming in. Supply hasn't changed so, the price has really no option but to rise.
Of course the panic sell will be just as fast when it inevitably happens but it should need some extra horrible shock news to trigger it this time i feel.



115. Post 25366232 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Assume we hit $10k (stamp). Still 1285 btc resistance (was 2000 btc last night). Do ye think there will be a breakout after?
Bitcoin was all over the news on Bloomberg yesterday and $10,000 should make the news on all channels worldwide.
Sure a correction should be coming but with publicity like that, a new wave of fiat should arrive to maybe postpone it.



116. Post 25366579 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 28, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
Personally I think it will break $10k and then pretty much immediately drop back under $10k.

Its still pumping in Korea though at $10500 now.



117. Post 25372489 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Heater on November 28, 2017, 12:30:58 PM
uk media gotten hold of this now . front page of the financial times and other newspapers. switched radio on and they're talking about bitcoin .this is definitely gentleman

It's on the front page of every paper I checked just now.



This is a new one -
CNBC

Bitcoin could lead kids into illegal activities like drug dealing, South Korean prime minister warns

They are reaching



118. Post 25426010 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

$10,000 + was a great party, but now im bored again . $20k will be like - thats nice but we have to to wait for $50k for the next milestone.
Where is the correction?
$127 million buy orders on stamp (record?) and 1000 btc on the sell side



119. Post 25436983 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Torque on November 29, 2017, 01:59:22 PM
We've broken the $11k guys! This is crazy!

This is not good.

My thoughts exactly. Too fast too soon.
FOMO must be kicking in big time and there is fuck all supply to dampen it so who knows what price it will reach before the euphoria gets exhausted.
Just ordered a google glass with a price ticker.  Wink



120. Post 25447346 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Will it bounce off 10K?
Its still over 11k in Korea so maybe



121. Post 25583278 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Wow the bitconnect thing looks good. There was lambos there and everything. Everyone seemed soo happy too. Maybe i should buy? Looks like you could get rich really fast



122. Post 25599039 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 02, 2017, 09:12:47 AM
+114 mil tethers during the last 3 days , 20k until jan ? Roll Eyes

It’s extraordinary.  People wire USD to Bitfinex. Bitifinex gives them Tethers for their USD. They spend the Tether on Bitcoin.  The price of Bitcoin goes up.  It’s incredibly suspicious how people buying Bitcoin makes the price go up and brings more Tethers into circulation.  You just can’t explain that.  It has to be a conspiracy. 

A more likely scenario is Tether is printed. Btc is bought during the dips and is pumped during this buying. Btc is transferred to other exchanges and sold for USD. USD is transferred to Tether bank accounts. Rinse repeat



123. Post 25599613 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

$136 million buy orders and 2100btc sell orders on stamp (A new high?)

Badger ready for take off



124. Post 25599790 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: mestar on December 02, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Looking at the 30 minutes chart on bitcoinwisdom, for Bitstamp and Bitfinex, if you look at the volume bars, they are very similar. Aren't they supposed to be two separate exchanges?  There is never a volume spike in one that is also not present in the other.  What is gong on?

Except bitfinex has X6 the volume and of course they are similar. Price moves on one exchange, the others follow as does the volume



125. Post 25656888 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

To me, we are coiling up for another big move upwards. The pressure is building.
Bitstamp now has $140 million on the buy side with only 2100 BTC on the sell side.



126. Post 25658244 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 03, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
To me, we are coiling up for another big move upwards. The pressure is building.
Bitstamp now has $140 million on the buy side with only 2100 BTC on the sell side.


10 points to Gryffindor.

Bitcoin : - where dwell the brave at heart!



127. Post 25658929 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: explorer on December 03, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
This is clearly as high as bitcoin will ever get, basically. Maybe just a little bit higher because there are people who haven't realized this is a failed experiment, but that's it. 1 bitcoin will absolutely never be worth $50k. $100k? LOL, no.

What'd I tell you guys? That was the last ATH bitcoin will ever see. People are finally waking up to how much of a failure this project is. Here, if bitcoin gets over GDAX ATH of $11,485, I'll give the the first person to quote me here the last of my bitcoin, which is 0.1 BTC.

Thanks proudhon - you can send the btc to the address in my sig. Smiley


Haha nice one  Grin

Except there are no sigs in this thread. Still though i guess he can get it from your profile. Either Way we will probably never see him here again



128. Post 25681548 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Maybe??






129. Post 25693955 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: tonyq on December 03, 2017, 11:27:32 PM
This just appeared in the British press.
Could affect the price as the news spreads.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/03/bitcoin-crackdown-amid-fears-money-laundering-tax-dodging/

Noting to see here. The exchanges are already KYC. Just another fud attempt. "cracking down on the bitcoin"



130. Post 25842960 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

The weal bitcoin bcash is going the wong way. woger yu told me moon



131. Post 25843436 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: phosphorush on December 06, 2017, 11:08:37 AM
OMG i sold at 9-10k because i thought it woudl corretc and now thiis? Idk if I shoudl buy back or not. FML
I sold on cb at something like 3,400 and then all of a sudden it shot up to 3,800 so i bought back with some loss (1.49 down to 1.12btc) and now we're here

Yeah but we are going up for so long, a dip needs to happen... wtf...

Down 500 in 5 seconds. Traders on window ledges.. Tip - always give it 5 minutes before commencing jump



132. Post 25883300 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: podyx on December 07, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
Calling $20k+ within 3 days

$17k in Korea atmo. Why so bearish? Wink



133. Post 25905642 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Searing on December 07, 2017, 10:24:51 AM
Koreans  Cool

1   Bitfinex   BTC/USD   $1,421,240,000   $14,400.00   10.20%   Recently
2   Bithumb   BTC/KRW   $1,348,120,000   $18,038.00   9.67%   Recently
3   GDAX   BTC/USD   $852,123,000   $15,149.00   6.11%   Recently
4   bitFlyer   BTC/JPY   $535,722,000   $15,987.80   3.84%   Recently
5   Bittrex   EMC2/BTC   $372,419,000   $13,578.20   2.67%   Recently
6   Coinone   BTC/KRW   $322,176,000   $18,040.80   2.31%   Recently
7   Bitstamp   BTC/USD   $316,572,000   $14,715.00   2.27%   Recently
8   Gemini   BTC/USD   $279,743,000   $14,947.10   2.01%   Recently
9   HitBTC   BCH/BTC   $262,039,000   $14,573.80   1.88%   Recently
10   Binance   IOTA/BTC   $256,197,000   $14,479.80   1.84%   Recently
11   BTCC   BTC/USD   $224,580,000   $14,986.00   1.61%   Recently
12   Korbit   BTC/KRW   $219,428,000   $18,039.00   1.57%   Recently


On the other hand...if I was in South Korea and had to deal with North Korea, hitting Seoul with Artillery 30 miles away....


well, under those circumstances, with how nuts things are there ...how MUCH BTC would you be socking away?


Obviously, lots.....grab the kids/wife and Trezor drive and run away asap if it all goes pear-shaped...myself, I'd have

a bug-out Van under such circumstances they are under...

Would be interesting economic consequences, if North Korea tried to ravage and mess with the 11th ranked economy in the world.

Ouch!







A bug out van isn't much good to you in south korea unless you plan to run the gauntlet and drive up through Nkorea.Wink

Its true though, they must be nervous with 2 lunatics to deal with now rather than the usual one



134. Post 25926281 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quick look at GDAx having a heart attack Smiley - http://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD



135. Post 25926892 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: tonyq on December 07, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
This is all going to end in tears.

Tears for the hodlers or tears for the dumpers. Without doubt the craziest day yet in cryptoland. I am burnt out and need to rest mind and body.
Its the first time ever i wanted the price to fall, just to stop or slow down the frenzy.
Its taking a dive as i write this so maybe that will take the steam out of it.



136. Post 25962738 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

http://chrisyeh.blogspot.ie/2017/12/bye-bye-bitcoin-bubble.html (Adventures in Capitalism: Bye Bye Bitcoin Bubble)

This article appeared yesterday where the author said he would bet any money that bitcoin would be less than $16k on Dec 2018. Its the usual fud article but the best reply he received in the comments section and the best i've seen in awhile was -

Bitcoin is not a bubble, its the Pin!

Jimmy Song offered to bet $10k already against him



137. Post 26034961 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: DaRude on December 09, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
Trading litecoin just isnt the same without a trollbox and fontas.

Fontas the pumper  Grin



Those were the days...




whatever happened to him/her

Im not sure but i remember him saying if LTC ever reached $12, he would invite everyone to a party in some tropical island. LTC hit around $45 shortly after. I think he held a shitload of LTC and slipped into the shadows after scoring big.



138. Post 26678823 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: willope on December 20, 2017, 05:44:57 PM
Anyone cares about the triple bottom?

Its close but its not really a triple bottom, but higher lows



139. Post 26732655 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 21, 2017, 03:59:59 PM
Holy Sh**

Didn't expect it to get this low ...

Why not? A few short weeks ago people were predicting these prices for the end of the decade still.

Exactly. I often open this thread but it loads an earlier page. 16909 to be exact and the first post i see is

:-D
$2000 inkominggggg^!


Thats way back in May so it kinda puts things in perspective. During the massive rise since, my biggest fear was what the correction would look like and if it would be Gox scale. What is happening now is slow and measured and triggered by Bcash pump/coinbase etc, but was needed anyway.
Still bullish



140. Post 26776876 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: alexeft on December 22, 2017, 11:41:26 AM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


09/01/2018 explorer
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
25/01/2018 orpington
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
05/11/2018 mikenz


Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC
The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again
When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25
Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins

LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2012 @ 22.00 cet




17 march 2018





141. Post 26777048 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

A noob friend of mine asked me this morning whats going on with bitcoin??? and then said maybe this is a good time to buy. So the bottom is officially in if the average noob wants to buy now.
scientific like



142. Post 26781071 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Time to send in the Guard! (waterloo). I hope Ver/Wu are happy. Their shitcoin is taking a bigger hit than anything else. What did they expect to happen? Destroy bitcoin and bcash would rise up to take the crown. Destroy bitcoin and you destroy all



143. Post 28765694 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: ztay on January 23, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
Ok I sold some. My sacrifice to the sharks. Price will go up now. I have excellent record for selling the bottom.

Yep. Caught the bottom nicly again too. Not too bothered really as some cash in the hand is worth two in the bush. I have to admire some here though with huge balls and possibly millions if they cash out now holding.



144. Post 29255820 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: Nosk on January 30, 2018, 04:59:25 PM
This is reminding me of the $800 phase in early 2014. I'd prefer a violent plunge to rip everyone's baby blue panties to shreds and then we can get down to business.

I think we've pretty much hit the bottom. For those who bought at 18k, expecting to get rich quick, a drop to 9k is more than enough shock to shake those people off.

Transaction costs are also no longer an issue, and speed is up. FUD is down too, since South Korea just added some regulations. We just had over 50% correction. A larger correction makes no sense since the run-up was nowhere near as sudden as back in 2013.

Just scooped up some more BTCs near 10k. Have a bit left in reserve to buy if it drops to ~8k.

True that the FUD news are starting to fade away.
I see more and more bullish articles on google news : samsung starting to create ASIC hardware, lightning network newcomers (just look at google trend https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=lightning%20network ), the guy who was robbed and forced to give his bitcoins (feel sorry for him but maybe the average dude will see this and think "oh so that bitcoin thing is actually valuable"), etc...

I don't see why the price would continue to drop.
Plus, mluc called bottom at 9k max and then an increase to 40k-110k by the end of 2018 so, hey. Hodl.

What about all the Tether fud?? And why no response of any kind from Tether? even a bullshit response like we have hired new auditors etc

EDIT: Havnt read it yet but -- https://tether.to/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Final-Tether-Consulting-Report-9-15-17_Redacted.pdf



145. Post 29277937 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.40h):

Quote from: rafanadal on January 31, 2018, 12:40:44 AM
sub 10k

i think this time it will stick

Perhaps. Bitstamp seems to forcing the fall. Lets see if $9200 holds.



146. Post 29298414 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: toknormal on January 31, 2018, 09:11:28 AM

Lets have a look at the RSI long range.

We are now at one of those lower peaks which followed all previous corrections in the last 2 years. So that would appear to raise 2 possibilities based on precedents:

1. it's an overheat-fan propellor type correction and will retrace back up the "spinner" to around 13,500 by mid February
2. if the 1-Week RSI really gets into the oversold zone then we could be in for another extended consolidation that may last at least the whole year




So it might go up or it might go down? tks for that. i feel much better now knowing the possible directions



147. Post 29321457 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on January 31, 2018, 03:26:40 PM
So at what time these freaking futures expire today? I bet the the bear ends 1 minute later.

Should be close if not already. No one seems interested in selling much below $10k or buyers are snapping up anything below it. Frankly i thought when 10k was broken, we would fall to at least 7500. Its been broken 3 times now and still no major run to 7500.
Positive waves



148. Post 29372234 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 01, 2018, 10:02:22 AM
Price continues to slide, it’s been like an avalance for the last month Sad

yep. Its like a physical pain and there is only one cure. It will be interesting in the next poll to see how the mood has changed here.
I think at this stage. lower is almost inevitable



149. Post 29375708 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: toknormal on February 01, 2018, 10:55:46 AM

I reckon there's probably $50 to $100 million in real fiat deposits backing Tether's $2.5 billion in worthless blockchain tokens that were used to blow the 2017 bitcoin bubble.

We're headed back to $1k folks.


Why do you think that? This is the rich list -

380,670,753   Feb 01 09:37 AM   Huobi
1DUb2YYbQA1jjaNYzVXLZ7ZioEhLXtbUru   329,339,572   Feb 01 09:37 AM   Bittrex
1Co1dhYDeF76DQyEyj4B5JdXF9J7TtfWWE   270,000,000   Dec 21 '17, 06:14 AM   Poloniex
1FoWyxwPXuj4C6abqwhjDWdz6D4PZgYRjA   249,963,861   Feb 01 09:37 AM   Binance
1GjgKbj69hDB7YPQF9KwPEy274jLzBKVLh   200,000,000   Jan 31 06:55 PM   
1KYiKJEfdJtap9QX2v9BXJMpz2SfU4pgZw   148,821,592   Feb 01 09:37 AM   Bitfinex
12uhUkxpwkD2LGzKHUywoknoJ3fC9vev1x   82,862,390   Jan 26 09:03 AM   Binance
1ApkXfxWgJ5CBHzrogVSKz23umMZ32wvNA   55,715,971   Feb 01 09:37 AM   OKEx

These exchanges presumably had to buy the tether with real $$ in order to list tether on their exchanges in the first place. Whether the money tether received is still  tucked away or not is anyone's guess but unless tether gave all these exchanges free tether, your $50 - $100 million doesn't make sense.



150. Post 29410454 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Bulltrap?



151. Post 29441761 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on February 02, 2018, 09:48:27 AM
Guys i think its over...

IT was a honor ;(

Don’t be silly.  It’s not over it’s barely begun.  We might go to 3k between here and there but that’s nothing.  We will be back bigger and meaner than ever.  If changing the world was easy, everyone would do it. 

Exactly.


Im still holding my btc But the decline is to scary to watch

Yes it is but on the plus side, the sell order books are stretched very thin on all exchanges and the buy side is holding strong. No one seems ready to call the bottom though so a rebound is not on the cards yet although the volume is increasing on each attempt. All it will take is some brave whale to kick off a neck breaking bounce. What happens after that though is anyone's guess



152. Post 29459942 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on February 02, 2018, 02:42:11 PM
Bull trap bull trap red candlessss againnnnn


Damn if i had money

I was still buying  Shocked

Think positive!! Thats a mini bear trap. crossing fingers



153. Post 29520171 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: wayna on February 03, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
Apparently, it seems we are out of this bleeding week.

Too early to call imo. A nice bump to $9500 by the week close would be more convincing. The stock market falling again on monday would also help matters



154. Post 29548429 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.41h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 03, 2018, 08:06:14 PM
Yes, there isn't real signs of a consistent recovery.

I sniff either another dump or a bull trap on the track, before a recovery around 13k.


No sign you say? Wait and see.



What do see oh great one?.
No seriously, what do you see?



155. Post 29585615 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on February 04, 2018, 12:22:05 PM
Shaking the weak hands off a bit more and some more credit card FUD making the rounds. Maybe going down lower than < $8.5K.

I predict this week will see a big rise in the entire crypto market and we will be comfortably over 12K again in a week's time.  Cool

credit card has lower fees than btc, ask bitcoin conference

I was referring to the not being able to use CCs to buy crypto FUD. JP Morgan / Citigroup and all those cocksuckers.

That was fridays news. There seems to a lot of btc appearing on the bitstamp sell books again (6k now) and the buys have dropped from $165 million to $90 million. A drop to 7600 again would be real bad imo



156. Post 29593415 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Roger ver seems to be gearing up for another pump of bcash shortly. Much twitter activity and some big bcash conference coming up.



157. Post 29601418 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: toknormal on February 04, 2018, 04:07:34 PM



http://forklog.net/so-have-we-got-tethered/


Interesting, although tether has to have had some influence on the price. The question remains if was play money or backed



158. Post 29601854 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: hexxodev_temp on February 04, 2018, 04:21:21 PM
so new hit coming?
5000?

Need a bounce off 81~~ or down to 7600 again which wont hold and then 5900 is probably the next test.

which would suck



159. Post 29637698 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Here we go. this is going to hurt



160. Post 29646898 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: soullyG on February 05, 2018, 11:55:16 AM
Starting to get to the "maximum fear" levels now, let's see how quickly this bad boy will turn around..

Strangely, i hit maximum fear yesterday and now today even though the price continues to fall, i feel calm (ish).
The worry i do have though is that there seems to strong support all the way down and those sellers just keep on selling.
This seems different than previous times though where there was more of a flash crash followed by a strong reversal.
I think when we do eventually hit the bottom, it will be more of a slow crawl up with many bumps along the way.



161. Post 29671224 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

$6173 on OKCOIN !! . Oh wait they stopped trading October 31st. So we are back to where we were 3 months ago. As sad as it is, it kinda puts things in perspective.
I still don't like this steady slide though. Its not how bottoms are normally formed



162. Post 29671991 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Searing on February 05, 2018, 06:35:02 PM
Guys i think this isnt a healthy correction, this is a crash...
We tanked more then 60% in price And still going we had many correctios
When the price was high So Dont Tell me this is a correction.

Banks And the goverments are toying with us And banning crypto
And maybe this Will go on

Good morning! Finally some people are waking up and getting out of the denial stage. So everyone is still saying this wasn't a bubble?

Well, I am still 700% up from last year...more or less....but ...still more India FUD, China FUD and Tether FUD to go. Sad



Still pouring in unfortunately.  An anonymous source of course
https://qz.com/1196866/bitcoin-prices-could-be-40-lower-because-tether-propped-it-up/



163. Post 29683612 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 05, 2018, 10:27:34 PM
This crash is your opportunity to create intergenerational wealth.

If you do not exhaust your fiat, you will soon have more BTC than you could have dreamed of.  Don’t get bull trapped.  If you are currently trapped, this candle is an opportunity to exit before the next leg down.  

now THIS is the sort of capitulation talk I'm looking for

I would agree with you JoJo but this isn’t just about crypto anymore.  Dow Jones is going to fuck us up tomorrow and we are going to get correlated into a global market correction. Crypto is hot money and like it or not we are starting to look like a canary for global equities. 

This is the strange part. Normally btc rises as stocks fall. Digital gold Huh and gold is rising. There's more to this than meets the eye and somehow I feel its related to tether in some way. The sell pressure during this fall was relentless even though there was also plenty of support. Sure there was fud flying around but nothing too dramatic or nothing we haven't seen before. I could be totally off but my gut says something up.



164. Post 29707736 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 06, 2018, 09:44:17 AM
So when is the bitcoin crash captioned Hitler video coming out?
That should be a good one eh?

Im sure i saw one for the 2013 crash



165. Post 29713649 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: modpleasehelp on February 06, 2018, 11:25:31 AM
Any thoughts on the impact the coming Crypto Senate meeting will play on the market?

Meeting is at 10 AM EST

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/914010/Bitcoin-price-why-BTC-falling-today-cryptocurrency-news-value-crash-latest-blockchain

Postponed to the 14th i believe but the text of what they will say is released. Noting new really except they think exchanges and ICOs  regulation should be handle at fed level rather than state level. Usual anti money laundering, KYC etc but noting scary



166. Post 29716837 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: TERA2 on February 06, 2018, 11:57:24 AM
Step 1: Click 12H
Step 2: Look at the volume
Step 3: Compare the volume to the last 6 months
Step 4: Become bullish and post train memes

Repeat with 1D tonight at closing

For the lazy -



Maybe...just maybe. fingers crossed



167. Post 29721576 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 06, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
More pain coming? Is karhu not pleased?

Looks like we have to sacrifice some hodlings or it will never stop. This morning I market-dumped 20% of my stash because I could not sustain the missus anymore and right after that price bounced up like 10% already.

I'll buy back my coins if they crash to 1K or so.



The fud seems to have died down. The weak hands have sold and the final bull signal (the missus factor) has past. Should be plain sailing from here



168. Post 29728337 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

https://www.c-span.org/video/?440770-1/jay-clayton-christopher-giancarlo-testify-hearing-virtual-currencies

When Giancarlo started about being a Dad, I thought here we go, we need to protect our kids but to my surprise he said we should encourage them to embrace this new market or words to that effect. So far so good.



169. Post 29734499 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Bitcoin is about to hit the highest daily volume since september 15th 2017 where it climbed from $3000 to $19666 over the next months. Tis a sign I proclaim



170. Post 29734859 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: zazzbg on February 06, 2018, 05:07:32 PM
Bitcoin is about to hit the highest daily volume since september 15th 2017 where it climbed from $3000 to $19666 over the next months. Tis a sign I proclaim

I don't quite get you? Where did you see that it is hitting the highest daily volume since September 15th?

Bitcoinwisdom. Just click on the daily



171. Post 29803225 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Im not scared (a bit maybe). we WILL bounce off the bottom of this channel and continue on our merry way.




172. Post 29804808 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ivor Biggun on February 07, 2018, 04:41:52 PM
Im not scared (a bit maybe). we WILL bounce off the bottom of this channel and continue on our merry way.



Why does that scare you? Did you sell at the bottom instead of hodling?

No. Im just hoping that was the bottom. Every group of red candles has me nervous atmo



173. Post 29849198 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

200 btc wall @ $8500 on stamp was just demolished in a few seconds. Lot of buy pressure today.

Btw the topic of this thread is - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion



174. Post 29921712 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: the artful bodger on February 09, 2018, 10:40:04 AM
The weekend is coming again, expecting to retest 7K

Sometimes it goes up, not down at the weekend. We could be retesting 9k by Sunday. All the dumpers mightbe waiting to buy back in.

True but im not liking the build up on stamp on the sell side. Up a 1000btc from yesterday to 6500btc and the buy side down $15 million.
Its not a true indicator of course, but it was like this all during the last slide



175. Post 30022396 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Um . Is this latest bounce just part of this downward channel??. Thoughts?





176. Post 30206525 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: vapourminer on February 13, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
It seems the "old ones" doesn't understand what bitcoin is or the whole cryptocurrency. The so called experts are also old and calling all fud against bitcoin. Yet almost all crypto enthusiasts are the younger generation, mid 30's and below. There is the barrier. The technological gap between old and young. Give it a few years when we "young" are the old, then we'll see it flourish.

Early 30's here.  Wink
Steady. You will find in this august thread many fine gentlemen of the older persuasion. That said, you're right, it is hard for someone in their fifties or more to change their mental and personal financial model utterly to suit the demands of bitcoin.

late 50's here. and when i heard of btc in 2011 i took to the concept like a dog to a bone.

dont forget us old farts have seen how the government and banks play with money "for our own good" for a long time and many of us trust the government/banks even less than the younger generation.

but maybe im an exception. lot of my friends around my age just dont get btc and wont get into it. but that may be because they generally arent a technology freak like i am. 

Same here and jumped in 2013 building a gpu miner with borrowed money. In the young uns defence though, when i was 30, i thought 50+ was a lifetime away and technology to that age group was beyond comprehension.
Of course i was wrong, as they are now



177. Post 30438324 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 16, 2018, 08:48:47 PM
Hopefully not to the tee. If the timeline was the same we'd be quite far off from mainstream adoption. Wouldn't mind seeing it a bit earlier than that. Wasn't the internet fairly unpopular until 2012ish and on? Don't really remember when it exploded anymore since I kept doing my thing unphased.

Not sure of the year but I think it exploded when the 56k modem finally arrived and you didn't have to wait 30 minutes for a playboy pic to load anymore.



178. Post 30473500 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Huge sell walls up to $11100 on bitstamp but its being bought into at a steady pace. 1800btc atmo



179. Post 30475292 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: seljo on February 17, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
OMG <3 bitstamp wall... aaaaand it's still there...

The action is heating up. Well worth a look . Bear trap in progress at the moment . http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD



180. Post 30484134 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: ivomm on February 17, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/bitcoin-tests-10k-mysterious-crypto-trader-dip-buys-400-million

This is his address - 3Cbq7aT1tY8kMxWLbitaG7yT6bPbKChq64
96k total btc now.
How do these guys sleep at night



181. Post 30502917 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: mike4001 on February 17, 2018, 08:50:09 PM
Whats with these huge sell walls ??

1100 BTC between the current 10,8k and 11k ...

(@Bitstamp)

I have been observing it all day. It appears someone is buying up anything that goes on sale below $10800. My guess is they will pull the wall when they have accumulated their target amount of bitcoin.



182. Post 30574882 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
Because it’s warm there and you don’t die in winter.
It's true, for what it's worth, that there is a connection between warm weather and shitholery. Just look at africa.

The one advantage about being homeless is you can choose where to live. California would be my prefered location too is i was homeless in the states.
I also heard when I lived in Boston that states were bussing any homeless that were interested to cali. Cant say if that's true though



183. Post 30720873 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 20, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
I'm proud for you, and I don't even know you in person.

I appreciate this more than you know. Sincerely, thank you. It's a very weird period I'm going through right now.

Also, WTF IS WITH THIS GODDAMN PRICE DROPPING OVER THE LAST 30 MINUTES. FUCKKKKK!!!!!

What Huh I thought it was you selling your load for your retirement. GL and have fun btw. Life is for living..

Too much resistance at 11800. A pullback was inevitable. We will break through the next time or the time after



184. Post 30762254 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: doc12 on February 21, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
A nice huge green dildo up the shorters arses would be nice now  Roll Eyes   (no lube)

Smiley The ol straight in no kisses approach.

There is + 2000btc on the sell side since yesterday on stamp which a bit worrying. I think we are in for a squeeze which hopefully is just a bear trap



185. Post 30819423 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

There is strong support above $10k but we are also forming a head and shoulders so > $10k needs to hold and a break above the down trend line is crucial soon





186. Post 30831187 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Huge motherfucking wall after popping up on stamp at $10100

And now another @$9400 on the buy side. Probably the same guy/group.
Much manipulation



187. Post 30959140 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Strange. Bitstamp tradeview(https://www.bitstamp.net/market/tradeview/) is showing a sell wall @9850 but http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD is not showing the same wall even though the price is matching ??



188. Post 30969685 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 24, 2018, 01:09:26 PM
So is it time to buy or?

$8800 imo



189. Post 31107058 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 26, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
I sense a disturbance in the blockchain.

I have a feeling we're setting up for moonshot this week.

Strangely i feel this disturbance also. From weeks of feeling fud, there is suddenly a feeling of calmness / optimism in my mood.
Its also been awhile since tether printed anything from a high of $100million + per week not so long ago.
No one wants a tether pump of course but if it happens, i feel the timing is right



190. Post 31198717 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 27, 2018, 04:19:37 PM
I see folks claiming we have broken the Dec downtrend...

Y'all motherfuckers need log scale...or something...I can't even what charts you are looking at.

I was wondering about that too. Even the linear scale isn't broken.




191. Post 31250880 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Downtrend line failed to break again. Wedge narrowing with a possible retest of 10K ish. The downtrend line will be around 10800 at the next assault. Either way I think a move out of this range is close. Whether it's to the upside or downside, I don't know but i am leaning upside



192. Post 31400577 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 02, 2018, 05:10:58 AM
No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000.

It's important to make each minute count.

I agree with the second part, not necessarily with the first.

there was no crypto before Satoshi
there was no www before early nineties
there were no PCs just 43 years ago

Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show) or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002). Would you be able in, say, 40-50 years, transfer your mental state to a different substrate? A fascinating topic.
There's also quite an amount of promising looking research going on into longevity, such as halting or reversing the effects of aging (successful in worms and rats). There's also that whole deal with Crispr. Then there's that guy who's planning a head transplant. And research in nanotechnology. And we've got billions of dollars focusing on AI as well. A breakthrough in just one of these could quite rapidly shift us into a "indefinite lifespan" species.

I don't see the advantage of transferring ones mental state to a different substrate. The second it happens, you end up with basically two of you. The original (you) will carry on in a different path and die eventually and the new you will do its own thing.
Reversing the age process is a different matter though and probably within reach at some stage.
A closer option though if we figure out brain transplants is cloning. Having a clone of yourself in a lab and performing a brain transplant to said clone when needed. Highly unethical of course as you are killing the clone brain effectively, but the rich would get over this hurdle im sure.



193. Post 31640859 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 05, 2018, 03:59:29 PM


Which path shall it be?
As shown by the flattening of the MACD, the market is undecided. If you look at the spacing between the Feb dip and the one towards the end of the month, you can see that it makes more sense if the wave structure is further "apart".
I personally favor the Kessel run in under twelve parsecs(fig. 1) over Red Route One(fig. 2) but thats just me.


Its an interesting price point at the moment. It was the start of the crazy back in DEC 6th. Tested in January multiple times and finally failed on the 28th. Tested again and failed Feb 20th and now testing again.



194. Post 31693297 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: TERA2 on March 06, 2018, 10:31:56 AM
Well there goes the future of money.

Don't panic . This is pure manipulation led by some bitstamp traders. They are walling up after each sell off and forcing the price down.



195. Post 31794273 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: MelMan2002 on March 07, 2018, 04:55:48 PM
I don't know - I have a hard time believing that this is a reaction to the MtGox news.  I'm more inclined to believe that there is some insider information that we'll all learn about days/weeks/months later..

One would think that the Gox news was bullish as we are finding out after the fact and would explain the recent decline. Sure there is more selling to come from the trustee but those coins were always going to enter the market again at some point.



196. Post 31795808 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Thats one hell of a bloody dagger candle on the 2 hour. Sad. I guess the fall over the last 2 days was insider knowledge of this announce. Still though the fall seems like an overreaction or am I missing something?



197. Post 31800628 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Article from trustnodes.com - https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/03/07/mt-gox-crashed-bitcoin-trustee-sold-bottom-blockchain-data-reveals


MT Gox’s bitcoin addresses are well known as blockchain detectives spent months analyzing them. One such address shows 2,000 bitcoin held by the trustee were moved on December 18th.

On that very day, bitcoin’s price stood at $19,000, briefly fell to $18,000, then continued to fall in subsequent days:




On December the 22nd, the trustee moved 6,000 bitcoin. That’s the big red daily candle above labeled 2, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800.

It appears he gave some time for the market to recover, then on the 17th of January at 3AM he sold 8,000 bitcoins. Crashing the market again.

He then sells another 6,000 on the 31st of January, but the vast majority was sold on the 5th of February, 18,000 in total. Sending the price to its recent bottom from which it then went on to recover and nearly double as the selling finally stopped.

This suggests the trustee has sold it all on exchanges, rather than Off The Counter (OTC), sending price down some 75% by perhaps placing market orders.



198. Post 31801376 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: SidETH on March 07, 2018, 06:49:37 PM
Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on



199. Post 31816791 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

How does the coinbase index fund actually work? For instance if you invest say $10k, does coinbase purchase and hold the various cryptos on their books to match the $10k investment?



200. Post 31903814 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: mesmerakyns on March 09, 2018, 07:35:35 AM
Fuuuuuccck. It’s going up again.  I’m never going to have solid gold yacht at this rate.

Sure you will buddy. Look you just gotta realign your expectations a little bit.



Just ask Carlos Matos. There is no problem so big that it cant be solved by a positive attitude.


Soooooo did you guys see this? I was watching transactions live and the mother of all transactions scrolled by right before my eyes. In all my years of transaction watching I have never seen anything even in the same universe as this. It's was like going whale watching and seeing the occasional orca swim through I'm pretty impressed then cathulu casually strolls by. Thoughts? https://blockchain.info/tx/c875eb38c6bc141abd92a9014f985b72f5500f88e8722d29e1c8d274b738d744

It's 132 million dollars
Waoh! I never seen any transaction this big myself... I guess the confidence is getting back and people are buying into the dip already. Hope this will validate my earlier speculation about the price rallying back to 10k. Just been hopeful though.

Leads back to this address from early 2013 which had 30k btc . https://blockchain.info/address/1BadjLJqb2CB73t3ZJ296xrwhHNhyo5JaU
And further back  (2012) to this address which is a Bitcoin foundation address. https://blockchain.info/address/1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW



201. Post 31907518 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 09, 2018, 09:47:43 AM
Ok, at this rate, I'm starting to wonder if I pull my BTC off the exchange and back into my wallet. Something tells me I'm not selling BTC before end of March.

This is starting to look like a downright apocalyptic shakeout.

On a slightly more positive note. The order book is looking much more bullish on stamp today. +$30 million on the buy side compared to yesterday. 1000 btc to $8100 and 1000btc to $10k.
I know this fluctuates quickly and I am probably grabbing at straws but at least the ammo is there if a quick reversal occurs



202. Post 31983251 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 10, 2018, 10:20:23 AM
I browsed like the 1st few pages of this thread just for shits and giggles.
holy crap!! all these heros and legends I've never seen before.
small wonder.
 they are all long since millionaires by now and don't waste their time here anymore... lol

... And many of them who sold and the train left without them.

yeah them too   Cheesy

I'd be surprised if one in ten of them is rich. Most probably sold too soon.

A legendary called arklan once had a shit load of Bitcoins, but lost them all before the price mooned. He sold ten to his brother for something like $100, and he had to sell some others for various reasons. He was here before this thread began.



doesn't help i sold 10 BTC to my brother back in 2013 at around 100 a pop... argh. i've got less then .04 now...

I know that stories vary, but your 1/10 seems a bit more optimistic, and, I would NOT be surprised if the number is closer to 1 in 30 who have more than 100 BTC.

I remember talking to a guy on the btc-e trollbox back in 2013 that had been in very early. He had bought 2 of the first asics (Avalons ) . He sold most of his bitcoin before the the pump to $1k+ but had still 2000 left. I wonder did he Hodl ( I doubt it ). Those Avalon guys made a killing at the time and when difficulty increased, they were still making 20X cost price on ebay.



203. Post 31983791 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 10, 2018, 11:47:08 AM
Long / short ratio still bearish at 1.41.  I don’t think anyone should get too comfortable at the current price because risks are still to the downside.  We are due a weekend dump. It’s $9,358 as I write this.

I agree that anyone should not get too comfortable, but demand is increasing the last few days . +$45 million on the buy side on stamp. I think a lot of the weak hands have sold already and those that havent are not inclined to sell @50% of ATH
Im sure there is a lot of nervousness out there too but if confidence is restored, I think there is a lot of cash waiting on the sidelines to jump back in.



204. Post 32006226 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Bitstamp series of walls @$9200 getting eaten.



205. Post 32016074 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Btc market is sickening to watch at times. One guy was walling up on stamp for the last few hours and slowly forcing the price down from $9400. He got it down to around 9100 and then pulled the wall and dumped the price another $200. Added the walls again and continued selling. Looked like he was working with about 1000 btc but probably has more in reserve.
Bitfinex and the other exchanges followed like sheep even though their volume is much higher.




206. Post 32021766 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 10, 2018, 10:34:40 PM
This isn’t so bad

https://twitter.com/jimbtc/status/972508940910120962

On the Telegram ICO, I can’t help but think it is a scam to defraud the Russian nouveau riche:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/03/01/dear-crypto-enthusiasts-forget-the-telegram-ico-its-not-for-you/#4e872dd1792e

Excellent. I needed that light relief.
did he died though?



207. Post 32126603 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 12, 2018, 09:41:08 AM
Someone was in a hurry to buy BTC as soon as his monday morning $4 million deposit was credited on stamp?

Awesome. One day I would love to do just that... wake up and buy $4 million of something just before breakfast.

There is also someone not keen on btc going above $10k. Keeps topping up the wall.
A lot of funny business going on with the price movements over the last few days.

Korea is leading the charge again $10K +



208. Post 32165102 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: GHCoins45 on March 12, 2018, 06:05:40 PM
what do you guys think about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXHgh2rTTw&feature=youtu.be

The bitconnect scam was glaringly obvious and the possible tether scam still hangs over us. Strangely very little noise about tether now ??
I didnt know about the Tron scam and its still trading away.
  Roll Eyes

good video though



209. Post 32169254 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Torque on March 12, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
The market is so thin and controlled by so few right now, they can literally paint a fake 'double bottom' and then just dump it.

They have been playing it (the market) like a puppet seemingly at will for over a week now. $1000 swings per day. And as far as I can, Bitstamp is his canvas.
The only good news is it seems they don't want the price to fall below $8k but also really don't want $10k+



210. Post 32255187 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Bitstamp appears to be down

False alarm. seems to be back again



211. Post 32327841 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 14, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Shit dudes... looks like we're back to testing 30 day lows.

God fucking damnit.

I'm so confused.

If you zoom out to the weekly, Its like a carbon copy of the 2013 crash. Even the dates are close to now. I know this means noting and things are different this time (they say)
but its weird to say the least.
I still believe the price is being artificially forced down this time though so if they don't get too greedy and push it too far, there should be a quick recovery.



212. Post 32483881 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 16, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
Yesterday: Lightning goes beta
Today: Visa head honcho opines on bitcoin below
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/visa-finance-chief-attacks-bitcoin-bubble.html

Lightning: would cost about 1c or even less for merchants to accept
Visa: costs 3% (at least) for merchants to accept

Hmmm, I wonder what may win out eventually

"This is the ultimate thing that you hear about when you have a bubble, when the guy shining your shoes tells you what stock to buy," the Visa executive said.

This quote sums up the mentality of these guys



213. Post 32591590 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

G20 tomorrow and tuesday. I wonder how much or how little it will affect the price?

"A media representative for next week's summit, to be hosted by Argentina, which currently holds the G20 presidency, said that the first meeting will take place Monday. The talks will feature Argentina Treasury Minister Nicolás Dujovne and Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Secretary-General José Angel Gurría, among other stakeholders.

A second discussion will happen on Tuesday, the rep told CoinDesk.

The agenda and talking points for the two discussions have not been released. However, a public document indicates that the discussions will revolve around the implications of cryptocurrencies and the potential applications of its underlying technology.

"The issue is an important item on the meeting agenda; delegates will consider a common response that would mitigate the risks without discouraging innovation," it argues.



214. Post 32633229 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Wow. The second the daily candle closed +$200 and counting.
The misery index was ATL today.
FSB news seems to be the kick btc needed.
Remember, all or most of the new cash that came into crypto last year is still there, although it has likely changed hands in a lot of cases.



215. Post 32677242 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on March 19, 2018, 02:08:28 PM
Cheesy totally organic growth through exactly two! washtraded pumps

take your guesses, when will it dump? i expect 9k$

Depends on the news from Argentina today and tomorrow Or maybe someone already knows its good and is getting in early Or maybe someone knows its bad and is pumping



216. Post 32689552 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: criptix on March 19, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
NO G20/EU regulations!!!!

I LOVE MAMA MERKEL!!!!!

Link ?



217. Post 32690017 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Typex on March 19, 2018, 05:05:08 PM
NO G20/EU regulations!!!!

I LOVE MAMA MERKEL!!!!!

Link ?

Its been acknowledged as the reason to the pump we have had over the past day.

That was the FSB news. The meetings are actually on now and tomorrow.



218. Post 32700241 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on March 19, 2018, 07:31:17 PM
Epic BLOCKCHAINIAN RHAPSODY!

This guy is amazing.  Must listen all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzXM2x6rQhs





Please, can i stop laying down and loughing my ass off ?  Delicious !  Smiley




He has many more. All excellent



219. Post 32908256 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Totscha on March 22, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
I believe the price will never drop under $8000, never ever.

$10000 in April.

How? The long term trend is bearish. Never ever under $8k? I wouldn't rule out $4k right now...

Only if you consider 3 months as long term



220. Post 33206850 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 26, 2018, 11:20:07 AM
Legacy markets are even more rekt than us Wink

What happened to bitcoin being a hedge. I do remember in the past if the stock market dropped, btc would rise. brexit etc



221. Post 33235552 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on March 26, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
CNBC found the reason for the dip:

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/978325069117181955

Sounds hilarious. It's probably not because of the ads. Roll Eyes

The comments section gives me renewed belief  in bitcoin though. A lot of peeps out there still slinging the old ponzi scheme shiet. A few samples below...

Very few ransoms being paid this week?


Because it’s stupid made up money?


At least you can grow tulips.


Because it has no intrinsic value
Going to $1000


Pump and Dump stock for billionaires



people find out a Ponzi scheme is in order, goos luck


Because it's a fraud?


‏WAT? NOT AT ZERO YET?



222. Post 33446138 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

As bad as it looks at the moment. The order book on bitstamp looks much different today. Gone are the series of walls which stopped any movement to the upside and its basically flat above $7800. Of course they can reappear at any time but they were constant over the last month or so.
It will also take a catalyst to get things moving



223. Post 33476809 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: mfort312 on March 29, 2018, 07:53:26 PM
KEEP CALM AND HODL ON
Fundstrat's Tom Lee Interview
https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/979112471037345792

"BTC gains driven by just 9 days per year on average"


Institutions are just salivating over the current prices. Average Joe speculators are just handing over the reins, quaking in fear.

Isn't it ironic that the very systems Bitcoin was created to circumvent will be Bitcoin's apparent savior for the next bull run?

Institutional bulltards are gonna plow right through this quivering mass of amateur instabears.

Pathetic, really.

Just watched it. He does seem quite positive, doesn't he. But when moon Tommy Huh



224. Post 34141307 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):



What kind of witchcraft is this???
weird



225. Post 34222389 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

11/06/2018 . Make it so

That's the 11th of june 2018 for all you muricans



226. Post 34291611 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Revised date. 02/08/2018

2nd Aug 2018



227. Post 34613580 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

I was just watching this latest dump and a wall followed it down to 8050 on stamp but was snapped up in one go. Nice.




228. Post 39040480 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 31, 2018, 06:07:20 AM
http://archive.is/TUMER

Quote
BLOOMBERG: Bitcoin Heads Toward $7,000 as Pain Returns on Gloomy Technicals
By Eddie van der Walt
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 16:56:59

-Drop below average price for last year could send it falling
-Price heading for $2,800 by the end of the year, Day says

Bitcoin’s in a world of pain, again.

The biggest cryptocurrency has renewed its flirtation with the $7,000 price level. The slide has helped to also send other digital assets into retreat, with Ethereum, Ripple and Litecoin all lower on Wednesday.

Since failing to regain the psychologically important $10,000 level on May 4, it has closed lower in New York in 12 out of 17 sessions. The hype surrounding last year’s hottest asset class have faded in 2018, with fewer online searches and more pressure for regulators, with technical analysts saying the decline replicates the pattern seen following the collapse of the Mt. Gox exchange four years ago.

“The emotions are no different from the last time this happened, it’s just a different set of people going through it,” said Paul Day, a technical analyst and head of futures and options at Market Securities Dubai Ltd. “We could go down a long, long way.”
Bitcoin on Friday dropped below its average over the previous 252 days, roughly equal to the number of trading days in a year. This could mean that the next leg lower is already underway, with the price heading for $2,800 by the end of the year, Day said.

EDIT: I know the above is pure FUD, and although BTC is currently priced below a level I would like to optimally sell at, I'm starting to consider cashing out another fair chunk around $7,500 if shit doesn't start trending upwards in the next few weeks. "Just get the pain over with" so to speak, and put the rest of my stash into cold storage until after 2020. I'm not considering it as "weak hands", just thinking pragmatically and what is best for my mental and financial health. Again, $11,500 is my "optimal" exit number, but, yeah, this whole Zen thing I'm working on is teaching me more to live "in the moment/now", and the more I think about "the now" vs "the future - which is uncertain", I could dump a chunk at these levels and find peace in the decision. We'll see how things play out, but looks like we're headed on a nice bull-run at the moment...


Be strong bob. At least wait for this daily wedge to play out and hope it breaks to the upside. Wont be long now either way.




229. Post 39776524 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):

They are upping their game.
 This is not just a Bart but a brand new formation which i shall name a Bart and Shoulders or in this case a reverse Bart and Shoulders.
At the moment, one shoulder and part of the head have formed.




230. Post 41195979 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: ThePunisher49X on June 30, 2018, 02:01:33 AM
300 dollars will be erased by tomorrow morning, it's not indicative of anything, we've seen this shit so many times.

This is why bitfinex created tether so they can print money out of thin air to create this fictitious sense of euphoria to those who think they are actually going to get a bounce back up so soon.

The entire 2017 bull run was:
>Tether prints money out of thin air
>Uses it to buy Bitcoin
>Bitcoin goes up due to fomo
>Tether sells Bitcoin for real USD
>Now they have $2 billion
>See how tether is backed 1:1 by USD?

And you wonder why the executive from the US left?

Nothing more then a delay in the knee jerk reaction from volume being to low and needing a pep up in price before a national hoilday to keep the masses happy. Undecided

From twitter poster https://twitter.com/altcointhoreau/status/1010512351810945027


Tether $3billion now USDT and lets not forget the new EURT which got its first 50 million recently.
How is it that during this latest bear market , it seems no one cashed out Tether for USD? With all the scare stories going on about Tether over the last 6 months, you would think any large holders or exchanges would convert their Tether back to USD???



231. Post 42018372 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: YourMother on July 12, 2018, 08:51:16 AM
- In 5 months we've had a triple bottom with a great support at $5800
- Most of the altcoin markets are already down by 90% and lower
- There are blockchain projects that are so undervalued as a result of the bear market that I'm tempted to rob a bank just so I can buy some extra bags
- The twitter "influencers", a.k.a. shitcoin pump and dumpers have been eliminated
- The telegram pump groups and the youtube crypto analysts that were spamming the shit out of us have disappeared as well

Your grandma, your hairdresser, the gravediggers and the McDonalds workers have capitulated a long time ago.

What you see in the chart below is not people selling their bags in desperation, it's just whale day traders liquidating each other with the power of margin, otherwise, you cannot explain rationally the trading pattern. I mean, it's sideways trading for a few days (sometimes weeks) followed by green/red dildo candles. Capitulation doesn't happen this way.



All in all, I find these to be positive signs. Bitcoin is still lower in market cap than Jeff Bezos's wealth. I'm patiently waiting for the next bubble.


Pretty much sums it up imo. I think most normal people who still hold btc are likely to continue to hold at this stage.



232. Post 42744982 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

A slow wall eating going on on stamp. num num



233. Post 42785918 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

A few hundred more and then a pullback to $8K + would be ok right now.



234. Post 42787968 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: fragout on July 24, 2018, 12:02:14 PM
A few hundred more and then a pullback to $8K + would be ok right now.

check .

Consolidate around here for 24 hours and away again would be ok right now



235. Post 42802123 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Quote from: kraterion on July 24, 2018, 04:47:46 PM
Sell the news when ETF will be approved or real FOMO will kick in instead? If it will be approved I don't see how if someone requests an ETF approval for BCH it shouldn't be approved

It wont be approved. The best we can hope for is an extension. The longer the speculation continues the better and the market might take on a life of its own in which a negative EFT result will not be enough to reverse it.
If on the other hand, it was approved, it is a FOMO event



236. Post 43017815 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.02h):

Flag closing! Breakout imminent (-2hrs). but it is the weekend so not ideal.



237. Post 43504466 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.03h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on August 05, 2018, 04:13:07 AM
Think of it this way.  We are part of the way down wave 4.  Wave 4 is a fucking doozy that could last into 2019 but it also leads to the bottom of this bear cycle, in the desert of despair.  

2014 - 2015 wave cycle


2018 wave cycle to date


Wide shot showing both 2014 and 2018 cycles



Why did you start wave one a step later on this cycle than you did on the 2014 chart?
Looks to me if history repeats that we are on wave 5



238. Post 44039312 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on August 13, 2018, 11:13:15 PM
XRP now down 93% from ATH.  

NEM down 95%.

Look at far right column. 





Its all relative really.
In the last 24 months. Btc is up 10X. Nem is up 16X and Xrp is up 46X



239. Post 44116931 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: bones261 on August 15, 2018, 05:47:07 AM
Come on bears. Keep piling on the margin shorts. I'm sure no bulls will notice those growing future buy orders stacking up.  Grin

Shorts approaching the highs of April 11th. The squeeze occurred on the 12th



240. Post 44814516 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 28, 2018, 06:55:29 AM
Shut up Hairy!  Don't jinx this with your prognostications.

It would be nice if bitcoin would go into a bit of a punishing phase.... to punish some of those folks waiting for cheaper coins... or those folks who are waiting for the alt coins to bring them lambos... .  I just don't know if bitcoin is quite ready for punishing phase.. but it would be nice.. a bit of a fantasy of mine to re-live the late 2017 upwards price movements that took a lot of waiting for lower prices folks for a bit of a surprise.

By the way, I seem to recall that a bit more than a week ago, Hairy had said that he had expected a bit of a pump to $7k or even $7,200-ish.. because BTC prices in the lower $6ks seemed to be a bit "oversold."... something like that.

Ahh 2017. The happy times. We all knew it was nuts though. I dont think we will see its like again though as the the shorters are a force now.
We need to bust ~7500 to break the trend line and 10k to confirm the end of the bear.
This latest rally could just be another dead cat but unlike the April and July bounces, its more sure and steady unlike the 4 pump days of the other 2.
I had to Sodl 50% of my stash (real world bills) so there is a great chance that this is the bottom. I knew i had to sell sometime this year but I was holding out as long as could. It sure felt so wrong though when when i clicked the sell button.



241. Post 45229258 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Quote from: mike4001_ on September 05, 2018, 11:17:37 AM
I really don't get it. Why someone with 10K bitcoins would dump them with 10% loss at 7400 when they could sold at 20 000? Who are these people? Playing with futures or just morons enjoying losing and making everybody sad. May be the silk road admin or some other criminals. And what will they do with the cash? Bury it in his yard, then gets arrested and hangs himself like the alpha bay admin. I curse these peoples with all the evil to them and their families! In Jesus name, amen! We, the honest hodlers will prevail and rejoice for ever!

I asked this question also several times:

The only answer I could find is that they are swing-traders.

They dump 1000 coins, drive the price down and hope to get others to dump as well, moving the price further down.

Then they buy at this lower price and influence other to do the same.

Why they don't just wait for 20k is another story ... they probably calculated it through that they can make more money this way.

My guess is futures or leveraged traders who bet on the price going down and then dump on the real market after which they buy back slowly. With enough ammo, it's a pretty safe bet. Works on both directions. They really dont give a shit what price Btc is at but need to be careful in case they go too far and kill the golden goose.
Short answer is Bart syndrome
Btw the relatively small volume exchange Bitstamp seems to lead most of these moves strangely. At least from my limited observations over the last 12 months



242. Post 45274320 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):

Its all good imo. A break below this (~$6300) though is not desirable.




243. Post 45980516 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):

Quote from: kingcolex on September 21, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
Let's see if you sleuths are up for another puzzle...



More pixels later...
this is Serbia?
I'm saying Ireland or France.

Gdansk Poland imo. Cant find the exact spot though -



244. Post 46182753 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: bitserve on September 26, 2018, 09:15:01 AM
Bassen on the 4hr chart, I give it up to 4 days to find the way up again. So a few days of rest in no mans land, gentlemen.

On the larger time frame, no big selling close to $6,000 but also no big buys with this Ghostly MtGox seller around. Something has gotta give.

Mt Gox coins haven’t moved since May.  

And no further sales after tamagotshi (or whatever he was named.. I don't remember) said he wasn't going to sell anything more for now.

Funny this is considered any "news". Fortunately the market doesnt care anymore.

It was kobayashi and I believe he said after the last sale that he had no plans to sell anymore until September.
This is him here coming home after the last sale.



245. Post 46891143 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on October 14, 2018, 08:08:46 PM
Anyone else seeing that 212 BTC sell wall on Stamp?

Yep. $140 difference between bitfinex and stamp now. Whats that all about ?



246. Post 47899085 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

5650 approaching fast. The next few minutes are critical Wink



247. Post 47899200 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: mike4001_ on November 14, 2018, 04:32:08 PM
5580 at Bitstamp

yep. good support at 5500 though



248. Post 47926458 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Searing on November 15, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
Stop worrying about whether Craig might have access to Satoshi’s keys. 

He doesn’t.

This is all just a play act.  Stop buying into the ridiculous story time. 

If he had a single key from Satoshi's blocks he would sign "BCH SV FTW" message, and bury Jihan Wu.

Does anyone think he would not use such a weapon? The fact he did not do it is yet another proof he is 100% fake.

my worry is that he is from the original 'supposed' satoshi group of dave kleiman, hall finney and craig wright

and there really is a 'trust' of coin he has access to on 1/1/2020...as last person alive...and he has such we are well and truly f*cked.

only a 1 out of 20 chance IMHO, but the stuff crypto nightmares are made of Sad



It was always a fear of mine since the clown surfaced. I really disliked him as a person from the first time i heard him speak.
If I was going to gain access to a trust of btc on 1/1/2020 though, the last thing i would be doing is stating BTC is DOA.
He will also have all the forks so maybe the theory is that he cant lose no matter what coin "wins" and all the better if he is in control of it.



249. Post 48066512 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

At this rate of -$1k a week , we only have 4 weeks at most to the bottom @ $300. In other words the real bottom is close. $3k, $1300, $1k. I dont see a long sideways action when we hit it though and expect a relatively quick climb to $6k again. Perhaps sideways will resume there for a while though
Reason for the collapse are unknown unlike previous years but it was certainly triggered by the bcash debacle which reinforces the idea that this event is being used to force the price down



250. Post 48098619 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

7000 btc + on the sell side on stamp atmo. $50 million buy side. I have been watching the order books on stamp for 18~ months and it has never been this high. In fact 5k was the previous high a few days ago.
As a comparison the bull run last year., it was 2 to 3K sell side. $150 million buy.

Dont know if means anything but i don like et.



251. Post 48243382 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: qwizzie on November 26, 2018, 12:44:39 PM
Ugg, all that money wasted to pump up Bcash ShitV.    Been scalping that crap since 70 dollars. LOL  Just went totally out at 140.   Now we know where all the money from BTC dumping went.  

This one lets you easily monitor it : https://www.coingecko.com/en
+76,9% in the last 24 hours and still being pumped.

An unexspected pump in a sea of red over the last 7 days.

One would imagine with all the BCH that Jihan/Roger had accumulated through mining and pumping since the BCH original fork that they could destroy the BSV price anytime they like



252. Post 48502655 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: somac. on December 07, 2018, 01:01:11 AM
This is not free market behaviour.
Theres a mad "professor" dumping his bags. More than any buyer can absorb.

if Ver and Wu were smart they would give up on ABC, dump both ABC and SV, and buy Bitcoin. that would fuck faketoshi over

SV has flipped ABC. SV up 27% today. Strange how ver/wu allowed this to happen considering their huge SV stash



253. Post 48509922 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: DieJohnny on December 07, 2018, 10:20:03 AM
Don't suppose the FCA can prosecute CSW for market manipulation, can they?

controlling a billion dollar market by yourself deserves an award not prosecution

I expect that award to made of lead though. A lot of hurting rich folk out there.
I have been binge watching Narco though



254. Post 48520268 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 07, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
yay a 100 dollar bounce after a 700 dollar dump

 Roll Eyes

Nothing to celebrate buddy but feeling a pulse is never a bad thing.

Edit - I’d imagine a few shorters getting rekd atm?

Yep. Shorts just hit ath a few hours ago. i was expecting summit to happen.



255. Post 50445424 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Stamp price edging closer to Bitfinex. Its been $100ish behind for months now.



256. Post 50774942 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Strange though that if Tether is used for 80% of Bitcoin trading and Tether might not be backed fully that people are dumping Bitcoin and not the other way round??



257. Post 51004642 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

And Alts are showing better gains than BTC. Strange days indeed



258. Post 51010503 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

$3 million Bitfinex wall chewed up and spat out. Any rational reason why Bitfinex led the charge and now is lagging behind?



259. Post 51027121 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Action to the upside or downside within the next few hours




260. Post 51028044 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: fragout on May 13, 2019, 10:22:35 AM
Action to the upside or downside within the next few hours



Your welcome



261. Post 51380082 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

weekend pump me thinks.
Stamp buy orderbook jumped by $20 million overnight from $67m to $87m



262. Post 51380545 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

What is general feeling about facebooks launching of their own crypto?
Good or bad for BTC.
My own initial thoughts are that it is good as it can directly replace Tether as an onramp to BTC
On the downside though, I think it might lead to some thinking why do I need BTC when I can use the facebook "trusted" coin

https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/06/facebook-libra-launch/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2lyZWQuY28udWsvYXJ0aWNsZS93aXJlZC1hd2FrZS0wNzA2MTk&guce_referrer_cs=n2i7cvVQ2FVl-mxbjXYdsg



263. Post 51442693 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

OT but interesting all the same -

Radix DLT - 10 years of Bitcoin history, replayed in under 30 minutes

Peak 1million + tps

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bzrqru/radix_dlt_10_years_of_bitcoin_history_replayed_in/



264. Post 51607281 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: 600watt on June 26, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
330 btc wall on stamp now. someone does not want the price to move beyond $12500



Yes. been watching it. They are trying to force the price down while bitfinex is down because reasons



265. Post 51626183 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

This was needed. It would be good to hold above 10k though



266. Post 51679695 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 02, 2019, 08:53:58 AM
Wow. 10160. This is completely unexpected.

Bull trap

Clearly a round head reverse Bart



267. Post 51712454 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: _javi_ on July 05, 2019, 12:27:45 AM
WTG, BTC!

Good Call:  Bullish

A new report from crypto analytics site SFOX suggests bitcoin (BTC) could see a price hike on American Independence Day — July 4th.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-could-see-fomo-fireworks-for-4th-of-july-new-report?utm_source=newsletter1&utm_medium=email

Got any other prediction?


Go Honey Badger go!

I have one. In 20hrs + we drop to 10k at least.
I would like to wrong though
Reason: dirty head and shoulders forming



268. Post 52545711 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

   ~$9450 is the bottom of the triangle. Me thinks it will hold and rebound to ~$10K . We will know very shortly either way



269. Post 52545852 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on September 24, 2019, 03:09:39 PM
  ~$9450 is the bottom of the triangle.

Observing $9445.

I hate you RN.

EDIT: $9428...
EDIT2: $9417...

Just... absolute... sheeeit.

There you go bob.
(could be bulltrap though)



270. Post 52686413 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Walls Walls Everywhere. A rarish sight having a wall on both sides of the orderbook.




271. Post 53871183 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):

In other news -
 6000 bitcoin on the shelf for 7 years after being seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau -

Full story - https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0219/1116299-bit-coin-clifton-collins/



272. Post 53908005 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on February 25, 2020, 06:35:39 AM
Man loses $60M in Bitcoin when landlord cleaned the house and sent everything to the dump by mistake

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Clifton Collins, a former security guard and a beekeeper turned weed grower/dealer, lost $60 million when his landlord cleaned out the house he’d been renting and sent everything to the dump — including Collin’s fishing rod case that hid his Bitcoin codes. Without the codes, the accounts can’t be accessed.

He had both BTCitcoin and Drugs. All wasted now Lips sealed
Lesson learned: Own a f**king room atleast when you have shit load of money and keep your codes safely.

He was stupid, and deserved it.

He ended up with over 6000 BTC. Why continue to deal drugs? He was already set for life. But he was greedy. And stupid.

All the better for us. Price will appreciate slightly, due to his stupidity. Thanks Clifton.

Almost certainly has a backup. He never challenged the seize order and seemed to be in good spirits saying more or less crime doesn't pay and the seizure was justified.
He acquired most of the btc back in 2012/13. I believe he was also arrested well before the ATH. Either way though, he was stupid moving weed in the back of his car and having a grow-house.
He split the 6000btc into 12 500btc wallets which haven't been touched since 2017 so it should be easy enough to find them. I suspect a plane ride when he gets out of jail.

 



273. Post 53929702 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Tash on February 28, 2020, 12:51:19 PM
Meantime in DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO Ebola virus and Bubonic plague

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The epidemiological situation of the Ebola virus disease in the provinces of North Kivu and Ituri dated 24 Feb 2020:

Since the start of the epidemic, the cumulative number of cases has been 3444, of which 3310 have been confirmed and 134 are probable. In total, there were 2264 deaths (2130 confirmed and 134 probable) and 1167 winners (people healed, or survivors);
- 453 suspected cases are under investigation;
- No new confirmed cases;
- No new deaths among the confirmed cases, including no community deaths;
- No healed person has left the Ebola treatment centers;
- No health worker is among the new confirmed cases. The cumulative number of confirmed/probable cases among health workers is 167 (approximately 5% of all confirmed/probable cases), including 41 deaths.

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Bubonic plague investigation
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On 22 Feb 2020, the Aungba Health Zone chief medical doctor was alerted that suspect bubonic plague cases were reported in the Ugunzu-Makangi village of the Aterlembe health area, Djugu territory, Ituri Province, DR Congo. Murine epizootics were also mentioned in the Makangi village. On 23 Feb 2020, the chief medical doctor of the Aungba health Zone  was appointed to visit the health center of Aterlembe for 2 days to investigate suspect bubonic plague cases. The head doctor Dr Delphonse Unen Ali reported on the same day (23 Feb 2020) on the outbreak. The nurse of the Aterlembe health center notified 2 suspected cases of bubonic plague. He reported that the index cases were 2 family members who presented with fever, headache, and painful buboes on 22 Feb 2020 at 2 health centers. After self-medicating for 6 days (16-22 Feb 2020), they consulted as ambulatory patients the Kpese health post and then the Yuku health center, both in the Aru health zone. A 2-year-old boy died on 21 Feb 2020 with symptoms consistent with that of bubonic plague (fever, painful buboes), the 2nd patient -- the 12 year old brother of the co-primary case -- tested positive for plague with the RDT [rapid diagnostic test] and is recovering. He presented with fever, painful buboes, and headaches. So far 16 contacts have been traced and treated with doxycycline, 27 households were dusted.
Lets hope they done a good job.

During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of the flu. Mortality rate of 5-10%
https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-pandemic-deaths.htm


During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. Frequently cited numbers are 20,000 deaths each year, and 37,000 annual deaths. About 5-10% of hospitalizations for influenza lead to fatal outcome in adults.



274. Post 54013575 (copy this link) (by fragout) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: somac. on March 12, 2020, 11:02:41 AM
this is brutal

Yep. Hopefully a recovery before the DOW opens as thats going to tank today also and will probably pull us down further