I am still not convined that PayPal's announcement was the cause of this rally.

The news should have had a positive effect, sure; but the rally started suddenly, rose steadily for less than one hour, then stopped suddenly, oscillated a bit and then stagnated at the current level.  Those news must have taken a lot more than one hour to reach all traders and be assimilated by them; therefore I would have expected a slower rise over several hours.

Ditto for the theory that the rally was caused by people taking profit on the AliBaba IPO and investing it in bitcoin.  That "Back to BTC" migration (if real) should have spread out over several days.

Coin buying by GABI (or some other single rich investor) would be a better fit to the chart, IMHO.

I wonder why it turns out this way. Initially it was such a quality forum. People meant what they say and you can see that they actually think before they say. Right now, there are so many troll accounts with so many sub-quality posts.

People who lost money on Gox had no sympathy for the people who tried to warn them for years that if they didn't hold the private keys they didn't actually have any bitcoins in spite of being attacked and ridiculed by the shills of whatever service was getting ready to scam their users next.

At some point maybe if the unwashed masses aren't willing to do their own research they don't deserve to hold bitcoins yet.

My bottom has been touched. For today at least

Don't worry people.
Just hold tight!

me me better than you, me me dont care, me me samrt 

no way, me dont make mistakes. you must be wrong, me must be right. 

It could also be related by the feds disconnecting the Butterfly labs mining rigs.

supposedly I really know how to read it.

Thanks for the explanation.

from $40million to $140million market cap in less then 15 hours

Nope. Still active. Bear with us.

mmitech brings good bearish points to the table I just wish he wasn't so smug about it.

If he means well and wants to tell truth as he sees it (as he asserts) he's hurting his cause by presenting it in an often offensive manner which makes people overlook his points and focus on the delivery. Self-image won't let us agree with somebody who we perceive to be disagreeable and if he turns out to be right, we will hate him for that. Some people find joy in that though, are you one of those people, mmitech?

I have this funny feeling that it's really happening this time... Even getting the fucking chills

Still kinda afraid to take a loan (thinking somewhere between $15-23k)

mmitech?

Maybe this year wasn't meant to be the year it goes back up to 1000.

BTC price is now < $390

Am I the only one who thinks that this is fishy as hell?
Feel like Stamp is pulling a Mt. Gox soon.

TL;DR: “I think it will be in the form of bitcoin, but, even if it’s not bitcoin, it will be something else."  Lol.

 

I thought BTC would be a space bound rocketship by now. Oh well, it's gonna happen sooner or later. And even though I would rather it be sooner, I can keep my coins in cold storage until later. It's not like I don't have anything else to do.

In the meantime, I can't wait to install Gems on my iPhone (Getgems.org). I would love to see it, or something like it, kill Facebook. Or do you guys think Facebook would sooner do the same kind of thing to keep from going the way of MySpace? lol


 

more bearwhale ar u kiddin me

where is the moon they promised me?

bitcoin production price is atm 131 and sold as 351... it seem fair price to me

The non existing wall at 340 can't get crossed because of idiot dumpers. Looks like we still will go down.

I would have to agree with you.  I was of the mindset to keep more cash in reserve but my husband figured Bitcoin had a better "return" than the crazy low interest rate the bank offers so we decided, albeit foolishly, to go ahead and keep our reserves in Bitcoin and pull from there when needed.  Seemed a brilliant plan until we have had months of downward movement.  On the upswings it is amazing though.  

The only comfort is that we never really had much cash on reserve until we began investing in BTC, so really, it isn't that big of a deal.  It is just that our BTC value isn't the same as it was a year ago.  

I'd assume it is to pay whatever coins are still under the control of mtgox, anything else would be crazy. I'm baffled why'd they even want to get involved in the mtgox bankruptcy though... Seems like way more trouble than it is worth.

lmao. seriously? how you know that?

Market is more wise than any individual, it is the perfect voting system.

Whether you wanna admit it or not is your problem.

The fact is that we have confirmed increase in supply:

50k this month + 94k from SR auction.
200k from MtGox  
8k from Australian police

Show me evidence for increased demand (the reason I said 'Down' is because I still see buying pressure only from the usual suspects: speculators and funds, masses are not interested at all).

These coins were out of circulation so basically they were not offering in supply at all.

Now they are back, we can only speculate on the amount that will be sold but markets usually tend to speculate close to the worst case scenario (if not more).

Volume is also drying up and coincidentally the outside temperature is 0 C˙ here.

i'd say Coindesk says around 2nd quarter 2015

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-decline-sparks-rare-mining-difficulty-drop/

Hehe, no but seriously what proofs did Draper provided again?

Édit: and plz dont quote coindesk. Kinda reminds me that ghost 150k$ platinium membership KNC payed to TBF.. Me who thought bitcoin eases transparency..

Confirmed by Ripple believers:
The Ripple NETWORK is a centralized interbank settlement network that banks may use in the future.
The Ripple COIN (XRP) is a centrally managed altcoin that COULD be used on that network but is not an essential part of it.
Adoption of the network does not imply survival of the coin.

Got to love the way sane posters pointing out inconvenient facts posting pics of Bieber are called trolls

Your an uneducated pussy.

starting to go up again
to 500$ !

This, my buys are in the $310-$320 range. Usually before a big climb there is a crazy crash right before. And if I miss it...meh, that's all good too.

Though we have been through so many different reasons why Bitcoin is going to fail and reasons why Bitcoin is going to the moon that I'm not sure what sort of news could do either.

What the fu*k is going on with you BTC? You need to go to the moon ASAP, i am tired of all these stupid bears and shit

...

I still remember doge people bragging when Doge reached the 3th greater marketplace, in the time when Litecoin was strong.

Then there was the big dump

oh dear... i never thought that we enter bear season so soon... im hoping for another bull market with all these news.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/102275772

Of course, people are losing money.

There are a lot of newbies on here today telling me that Bitcoin is doomed. Should I sell all of my bitcoins and buy fiat or buy ripples?

Which newbies to trust?

That's just arrogance (on their part; inherited from the UK along with their system itself), not stupidity.

FUDster alert level: RED

Why post on a forum if you don't read it in the first place.

You know, Bitcoin.  The sound money store of value that eliminates third-party risks?
1.  Loses three quarters of its value.
2.  The part that's left gets pwnt by third party

They are from slovenia or something but operate in UK

I guess you don´t read too well.

It is hard on my ruddy phone

What's the point?

Wait, isn't that actually good news for the price? I see you guys complaining constantly that there are too many miners and thus the supply is bigger than demand. Am I missing something?

maybe you mean a car without a wheel, because a road is still useful without cars...

Look at volume : Its Capitulation.
STOP SELLING AT THE BOTTOM.

Me also - Anyone looking for a Unix Admin / Engineer contractor in the UK? 40 years experience. Work for paycoin....

I doubt it - the mining co-ops are just idling their equipment and trying to wait it out.

What's the most bullish thing imaginable? I would like some brainstorming please.

Not yet. Double digits. $20-80

This doesn't mean anything, you are overlooking it... a correction to $250 is possible maybe followed with some stability for few days then the downtrend will continue till we hit the bottom (double digits, lower double digits)

Those aren't bears, they are either bear cultists (permabears) or pigs.

Something weird is going on. Swiss franc is up 30%.

you must be new here, I am not negative... I am optimistic and bullish when the market is bullish, and pessimistic and bearish when the market is bearish, as simple as that.

BTW 1w chart is still showing a huge chance for a continuing downtrend (unless we recover to $450 in the next couple weeks)


I don't see despair yet, when it hit most of you will abandon the ship, only then I will buy back, at this point my money is safe and stable in my bank account  

The price is being manipulated by central bankers and the exchange cartel, why can't you see it?
Also:  The Jews Did It.

can someone says that the next 20 hours is critical or something gentlemen ?

EDIT : Please ?

If people start using their API for their databases it creates intrinsic value for Bitcoin.

Single Digits! To hell with bitcoin 

Barry Silbert has confirmed via twitter (and Wall Street Journal) that Coinbase will be opening the first ever Exchange in the US

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/559469770232569857

For alot of people this will be the first, one as they will be operating with license to operate in 25 states


The headline on the WSJ article reads - "First U.S. Bitcoin Exchange Set to Open"

no, thats ripple


BTW i may have fonud why we are sinking..
Mark Karpeles still wondering around this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2134

 

True but it might be more difficult this time with more people leveraged shorting the hell out of it.

what happened??

All the bear trolls are dead. It is time to go up seriously.

Expecting price rise to ~$350 - then down to ~$220 revisiting the current level. Time horizon: March to May.

What do you expect?

...and we're $0.80 away from $285,  hours later.

what do you guys think loaded meant with the post if we are ready for the weekend? 

https://blog.xapo.com/announcing-xapos-advisory-board/

not a single f*** is given by the market.

maybe we see a 5$ increase in marketprice once they announce it becomes world reserve currency - but I assume even in that case it will drop

is this gentleman?

I am surprised that the Euro has only gone down by 1 cent over the weekend vs the dollar.

can anyone make me understand why the price of bitcoin is suddenly spiking from last few days?

This poll is wrong
Question:   price will bounce off of
too low prices, 255$ will be the target

If you want to help the greeks, use the blue market. Go there, pay with cash, don't ask for a receipt. Take a bunch of olives back home.

The  Greeks abroad can no longer withdraw funds from their cards, all funds have been frozen.
That might entice at least the greeks abroad to start using bitcoin.

Nothing lasts forever my friend.

This is normal when we go up too fast and too quick.

After every up trend, there must be a correction wave and so on.

But don't worry, we will see the $300 mark soon.

Time and Patience

where is 300 

My wife is all about large green dildos... exciting stuff.
When I called 200MA, she went beserk. Any suggestions?

Sorry I was wrong. BTC is under 280$ for 12+ hours in Btc-e. I thought 280 was the great resistance but it broke down easily.

2 digits anyone ? 

block time at 13 minutes. looks like we are near production costs.

Phil Potter of Bitfinex last night talking about the outage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBnd0uPuWs&feature=youtu.be

This sounds like a legit network issue. So bear trap.   

I honestly wonder if the entire forum is just NLC talking to themselves.....wait....that means I'm a Lambpuppet 

Actually, the last halving coincided with the release of ASICS, which probably smoothed over the transition. So we might see a bit more of a slowdown this time around, but I don't expect any major issues.

Well the price already hiked in its own way!

How high must it go to expect those sells ?

guys is this for real??? is this already known or is it fake?

http://www.glasshunt.co/exploits/bitcoin-double-spend/

https://twitter.com/theglasshunt

 

Changing the subject here but I'm not really that up to date on this but what connection does megaupload 2.0 have with bitcoin and what affect will it have?

Just heard rumours about it and I don't know anymore.

Cheers!

This is the hint they are trying to make with the approval of their ETF?
Wouldn't it just take more than a color of the rainbow to do that?
It just keeps everybody on their edge of their seats while the price is suffering now.
It is making it crazy to not know what to do with it's self.

Here comes $1300. Is it wrong that I am actually tearing up?

Yes you do understand this is a joke

What do you guys think about this? I don't like it. Better to have normal growth.

guys guys guys!!  The orange circle saying COIN is unlisted has disappeared from the Bloomberg chart!!!!!!!!!!  https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/COIN:US

this doesn't contain the word ETF
https://www.sec.gov/rules/other/2017/33-10312.pdf

Ten minutes ago it said it was unlisted on an orange disc in the middle of the empty price chart.  It still says unlisted on the left but the orange disc has gone.  It's a change.  I don't know what it means but it's a change.  Somebody's working on the page.

SEC live stream won't be addressing the Bitcoin ETF.

Can anyone (maybe BU supporters) explain me why would miners support an action (non unanimous hard fork) that will surely result in an inmediate drop of the price and also a long term lose of trust/value of Bitcoin?

Shouldn't miners act always in what is better for higher Bitcoin price (higher rewards for them)? Or is it that for some unexplained reason they think the price would react otherwise? Is there a hidden agenda that I am not aware of?

I really can't get it.

Hmm...this is how shills are born. Sell low, buy alts high, then try to recover your losses by trying to get everyone else to buy your alt with the hopes of breaking even and selling.

Please guys make a new panic sell I miss this 1101$.

Ask Viny and others influent guys to say again bitcoin will fall down to 300$ and blablabla so i can buy.

...
Where is Litecoin in all of this? Usually it's LTC price increase with the BTC's.
Confused by this happening.
...

from what I understand..with 100 btc (say you own) you get BOTH..BTC and BTU of 100 coins....thus if you just hold and one becomes worth nothing..you still have the same $$$ vs BTC winner that you had before...the price may tank but the amount of BTC you have will be the same...this of course if you did nothing....

(or do I have this wrong?)

I'll post here one last time just to give you guys warning. This is going to happen, I pretty much saw it already in my dream.

First of all, there will definitely be a fork. If I'm wrong and there is no fork, Bitcoin will lose the vast majority of its marketshare to better crypto, at that point BTC will be left in the dust, permanently, and nothing on this forum will even matter anymore.

But most likely, there will be a fork. During the ensuing chaos, and mass sell-off wars between the two sides, Bitcoin is going to drop into the double digits... this will be a great opportunity to pick up artificially incredibly cheap coins. Probably the last opportunity, ever. And the price will almost certainly shoot back upwards immediately afterwards once people realize they're a bunch of idiots, and either core or BU emerge victorious.

After the fork is done, and BU emerges the victor by killing off the minority chain, all the marketshare that has flowed into altcoins over the last 2 years will flood back into BTC like a tidal wave as people regain confidence and trust in bitcoin. BTC will shoot up like a rocket ship into the multiple thousands. Of course, this would have happened already had Core not stifled growth with the 1mb artificial blocksize limit.

So if you buy in the double digits then it goes into the multiple thousands, well, I think it goes without saying it's a great opportunity...

I'm 99% sure this is going to be how it plays out, I saw it in my dream, they do tend to come true - most of the time.

Make sure you get yourselves into position. This will be my last post here for a while, I am going to sit back and wait for events to develop. Adios.

Looks like some idiot is thinking that bitcoinplus is the new forked bitcoin lol. +1000% 

uh, no. i meant miners. y'know, the people who actually might lose money if they run piece of shit code. that says enough.

LTC spike is happening earlier then expected

where is the announcement?

more important than the rejection is what has been said.

in my opinion the first ETF rejection was positive because they didn't closed the doors for future applications and recognized some positives of BTC market

Altcoin lovers prepare your anus, lol

http://news.8btc.com/trading-of-ltc-etc-and-other-altcoins-might-be-halted-in-china

Is this a rally already?

altcoins are waaaayyyy too expensive

I've never seen the price just sort of wait around after so much rallying before.

Leads me to conclude that we are indeed just consolidating. Doesn't seem likely that you'd run all the way up to these new heights just to kind of stay there. Either we lose a bunch of it or we keep going.

Back in 2013 I was waiting for a correction too when price went from 10$ to like 50$ and than above 100$. Still not happend...

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

I don't understand how is it possible to have such a strong difference between the two.

Anyone with a korean AND a european bank account can simply buy in Europe, send btc to korea, sell and do it again!

BTW guys, some of you in this thread are very annoying.

You guys made me sell my most of bitcoin at the time of rumors of stupid BU.

1 month back.

without governments there would be anarchy. or if not anarchy then societies would at least be much more primitive than they are right now.

Is Bitstamp referring to lightning network transactions.

So...weekend lift or dump?

what is this game?

new ath or break old ath?

what if it breaks old ath, hits 3000 on aug 31 and then breaks that 3001 on sep 1?

sorry im slow today, just woke up

...

AFAIK LTC was such a HF ?

So there's a dip...what should we do?

What happend to good old arbitrage? EUR vs USD vs CNY markets drift quite alot in the last days...

...And the Chinese still have to wake up!
The fan is waiting... XD

Personally I am still bored AF 

Nah - I am bored- unimpressed ,but not suicidal

...lol with the recent news from Russia re competing with China in Bitcon mining - coupled with the faux China ban , and taken into context with the usual bullshit the MSM spout..

This "supposed" Russia "ban"

Who could really give a flying fuck.

Not me that is for sure.

Not a single fuck given.

(Even if Putin were to come into my  house and smack the hardware  wallet outta my hands I would still laugh in his face)

Just analyzed the latest movements.
I marked the interesting spots for you



 

Something bad is happening to Kraken! Not working for months! Are they cooking an exit scam?

that looks full retard plus i bet the devs have zero experience in gemology :-D looks like epic scam<<< 210 million = x10 supply rotfflmao

They can regulate exchanges and payment processors, they can pass laws that the average person will follow, and they can set up firewalls so only tech saavy users will be able to get around. Any of these will significantly lower the value. Right now at the current value we are here due to expecting massive fiat channels and big financial players with the full blessing of governments. Bitcoin will still exist without government approval, but not at this price - not for a while at least.

^I disagree. The higher the price the more people want to buy it. Humans are right confusing.

I was laughing all the way as I listened to the "guru".  I am not sure whether he is serious or whether this is a spoof.   

Isn't that comunism?

Nope, that's wrong, but I'm too tired to argue, let's continue on Sunday.

You guys didn't tell me "go to the moon" was code word for a -400c vacuum and instant death.

Thinking the same about selling now and rebuy later. But everytime I tried that, it directly went up. 

Did we hit the bottom yet

Got this email today,  anyone know when i can expect my founds back?

This drop today is insane....I wonder if it will finally bounce back

Destination low is sub $1500. Thats the long term chart. Each long wave down ends just above the previous wave high, which in this case was $1200 in Dec 2013.

Already gone $19000 down to $6000, so over halfway there.

Best to get it over asap.

Its green now . Bullish ? Or bull trap?

I don't follow. Exactly where are you finding the notion put forth that Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash are the exact same asset?

Just so some of you newer guys understand, the deep pocket momentum traders that got in and out Nov '17 - Jan '18 are now gone.

Sure they still might have a long position, and may be incrementally buying, but in terms of mega volatility swing trading they won't be back with deep money until one or more of the following happens:

1. Most small investors and guppie traders lose interest from lack of price action/ boredom and move on

2. Technicals show a true long term bottoming out (a cup formation)

3. Another impending bullish development, like a sudden Bitcoin ETF announcement that comes out of nowhere. Though, expect massive volatility in the months leading up to such a surprise. The insiders will know about it 6-8 months in advance.

Keep in mind that in the interim, we could literally drift sideways for a year+.

I think sub $10,000 is obviously possible. All the way down to $2,500 though? Near impossible for me buddy, too many people would be having a feast on coins valued at around $4000 - $5000.

These are scary times. Will make your palms sweaty when playing these little swings during bear markets.

It's not a question on if bitcoin will fail, but the questions are when will it fail, how big will it get before it will fail and how much will it effect other more practical cryptos. Bitcoin is the ultimate modern materialization of pure greed. A lot of people with unrealistic dreams of easy riches and very little practical substance. Currently PoW mining is costing the bitcoin network about 2,5 billion$ annually (https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption). That is the pure electric cost, calculated with the assumption that most mining is done with cheap electricity. And you also have to count in the mining equipment that's development and production is mostly paid by the money from the crypto market, then also things like rent end salaries. The closer realistic cost of running the bitcoin network for a year is closer to 5 billion$. With an optimistic count, it is said that bitcoin has around 3-5million active users. That means that it costs around 1000$ per year for user just to keep bitcoin mining alive. All of these expenses for a payment network without actual advantages...

The millennials, who are the driving force of bitcoin, aren't able to comprehend that someone does have to pick up the bill. The only way that they don't have to pay for the mining mega expenses is for new greater fools to do it instead. But the bleak truth about greater fools is that they always eventually run out. Then bitcoiners have to pay for the mining costs of the network, with the dollar value of their bitcoins. Then you will see how all those "fiat-hating-revolutionary-snowflakes" will screech in distress, over how much less dollars will they get for their bitcoins.

In my eyes, the problem is exactly that bitcoin isn't nothing but an expensive payment network. It is often called a "cryptocurrency", but in my eyes it is a gimmick of an currency, when it doesn't have an independent mechanism for value stabilization. As long as it has to use fiat to give it value, then fiat will still be the only currency in the pair and bitcoin is just the temporal solution to transfer fiat. That is why, in my technical point of view, it is the same to hope for bitcoin to replace fiat then to hope for your car to fly to the moon. In this reality these things just don't have the needed mechanics for the job..
Don't take me as a pessimist by this. I think that in the future we will have an cryptoasset that is able to break this currency boundary and will be able to actually offer an predictable value without the need for the support of fiat value. Trying to wish bitcoin to do this isn't just constructive use of energy. All these false hopes and illusions will only make a big mess and the people who profit for it aren't exactly the good kind.
I also think that you can't compare the e-mail protocol to bitcoin protocol. One is a communication protocol, you can compare it to IRC if you like. Bitcoin is an financial protocol with a lot more complexities and different rule-sets.

Bitcoin's price is really stable at 10,000$ any thoughts on what is happening with this? would the price still go up from this value?

And there he is ... back into the downchannel ... okay ... almost

Were going down again....

Wtf is going on....

Yea But what is the reason the presure is quit high to keep the price down

Mmmkaaay No its manbearpig if you wanne say it right

The price rising from below $8,xxx to seemingly finding support at $10,xxx & now stabilising above $11,xxx is very bullish imo. I think we could soon be moving back into the teens.

Dat bitcoin!

BTC

And again were not possible to go above €9500...


Damn big hodlerrrr are messing with us

$13,000 by end of March

From 12 to 8 is a 33% variation. Maybe this kind of variation will be the norm now.

Double the price from 6 to 12, fall to 8, then double again to 16, fall to around 10, then double again to 20. How much time would this take?

I dont think we can reach 100k this year anymore. For that, we would be at 20k right now.

But we can still reach 50-70k by the end of the year.

for what?

So this is getting hardly any coverage? This sounds like it could be a big deal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/06/bitcoin-exchange-coinbase-launches-the-dow-jones-of-cryptocurrencies.html

It seems like almost any of us can get tempted into selling a bunch of BTC when the price is dropping so fast..

When it is happening, it seems like no bottom, and after about the third or fourth leg down, you can become so fucking tempted to sell - and that frequently can end up being the bottom.

But, yep, could be that the bottom is in.. .  I hope so.  Probably we need to wait for 20 more hours or so, just to be clear that all of the dumpers have had their dumping go at it... and to ensure we are actually done with the dumping, this time around.

Currently, i do have a sense that the dumping is not over, yet.. but what do I know?   

fuck coinbase fuck licenses fuck the uk fuck techcrunch fuck coinbase fuck news fuck cryptocurrency fans fuck the uk fuck europe fuck coinbase fuck popular fuck accessible fuck exchanges fuck 'granted' fuck licences fuck the uk fuck the 'regulator' fuck the fca

FUD spotted

Ha ha FUDSTER.. where have you been?

Did you miss the bottom?
It is history!

GO BITCOIN GO!

EOS.  The coin with the year long ICO.  The coin that has achieved nothing despite raising US$700 million. The coin that is currently tanking the ETH price because the dev team are running scared from the SEC.  A coin with no purpose, no value, no utility and no access to the EOS platform.  

Tell us more about your glorious shitcoin Jacques.  

I believe the price will never drop under $8000, never ever.

$10000 in April.

Anyone feelin' goxed all over again?

Bravo.  I liked it so much I played it twice. 

Do bears get any memes? Bulls have trains and rockets. What do bears have - dump trucks?

Erm, guys, i don´t get how to get UBTC. Couldn´t a helpfull soul direct me ? Thanks ! I´m always offtopic, i know, but can´t help myself.

This looks like a magic spell

According to coinmarketcap graph we are moving slowly up. Hope we reach yesterdays price of +7300-7400

Were you able to find an uptrend before all previous major pumps?    If it would be so obvious everybody would become a billionaire!

Typical high frequency trading scam

That's because your TA is shit. Anyone thinking they can predict future price action solely off a derivative of price action (RSI) is retarded.

You're not allowed to make bearish statements around here.

Please log out and log back into your bull account.

Then proceed to post rockets, trains, air balloons, and other such things of bullish value.

So, where are all the bear posters now?
Please post something shitty. So we can all fuck you up real good.

I can't see Trump starting a war with Syria, knowing the chain reaction it could cause and considering that Assad probably didn't do a tenth of what we are accusing him of. There must be something else at play.

Lefties like Dubya starting the Iraq war while all the right wingers were in the streets marching against it. 

I don't see how any macroeconomic or political events matter to crypto. All ups and downs are determined by exchanges, whales and insiders and they don't care about macro events. It's not like that real people investing influences the price that much on short term basis.
Mt.Gox bots did more to bitcoin price increase than Cypriot banking crisis or war in Ukraine for example which barely had any effect and couldn't stop the post Gox bear market.

i only wish we already have solutions for the last year problems of congestion and delayed TXs. (LN ready and so on..)

I dont want another bull run, that will cause Bcash lovers start spamming the BTC net again... 

Funny how banning racism would imply to ban judaism.
http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html

We both agree that the current system will eventually be replaced by something that is based
on sound money (after all fiat money is the historical anomaly).

I´m not one of these hardcore libertarians, who is dreaming of a world without any taxes. I just
happen to disagree with the current level of taxation in my own country (I live in one of the
European countries, that is rather wealthy for now, but has a ridiculously high level of taxation) and most other countries.
There is this weird phenomenon where the state grows continously, but never shrinks. This obviously
leads to an ever-growing demand for more money where the state needs to extract more money using
taxation and a growing deficit.

If your politicians also follow a ridiculously stupid immigration policy, which exacerbates the whole
situation even more by introducing hundreds of thousands of people, who won´t be living
off productive work but off government transfers the outlook is pretty grim (you are probably
able to guess my country right now  ).

ETH has me super pissed. It should be worthless but instead it's up like 80% from its low.

I'm not following ALL the shitcoins, but now XRP has me even more upset. Thanks.

I truly hope so

I dont agree that the next ATH is coming just because a diagonal line was broken. How many times did that happen in 2014? Rally to 12Kish maybe.

 • it does not support any realtime service protocol and so can never deliver native API services
 • it can only support a deflationary monetary system, no inflationary ones and so is useless as a trading currency
 • it has no native fungibility maintenance
 • governance is by contention only, which has already lead to forks in the community as well as the chain itself
 • it's one of the most centralised assets in the financial universe with 98% of the supply being held by less than 0.1% of the world population
 • it's slow at confirmation (a good thing IMO, but if you're trying to top up your credit card when the shop's closing in 10 minutes, forget it)
 • the Lightning network will not fix this as it only works for off-chain transactions plus...this

I'd better stop there for now cos my "koolaid" tank seems to keep topping itself up and I might get a bit sick

With regards to zero confirmation spending. That is stretching credibility a bit. Even the name of it says it all zero confirmations means there is zero confirmation.  I don't remember that ever being a thing. I always thought you need about 6 confirmations to consider it safe?

Dash has a great piss poor solution, as usual. With Dash 'instant send' a quorum of centralized masternodes accept the transaction and instantly lock it. No double spend can then happen. Shortly afterwards the confirmation goes through into the blockchain the normal way. Just another example of how Dash already solved swept all these problems under the carpet ages ago and the power of the tier of masternodes ensures centralization and prevents small players form participating.

You all don't realize how powerful the Dragon Ball franchise is. They have been milking the "It's is over 9000!" thing for all it's worth. They had to rush to crash the market when it jumped to almost $20k pushing the price back down so they could repeatedly have the price go over 9000.

Some theorize that this is the sole purpose of the creation of Bitcoin.

When you use bogus propaganda like this to try and demonize Ver it only makes you look like a conman yourself.  He was arrested for sending fireworks in the mail.  Who gives a shit.  There are a trillion laws and everyone breaks them every day.  Hillary Clinton was caught red-handed trying to destroy her emails for obstruction of justice and not a damn thing happens.  Jews try to false flag chemical attack in Syria (amongst a million others) and Trump goes along with it yet nothing happens to either party.  The law does not matter and all of them can be ignored because nobody running the system believes they apply.

It is enough to know they are all shitcoins and all will return to zero, with the possible exception of ETH.

Gentlemen aren't gentle with women who dissemble.
You are playing down btc's massive bullishness of late while colluding in the pump and dumps with lesser known coins, yet you come here pretending to be interested in the price of xrp etc.
No trader is to be trusted, but your game is far from opaque.

Sarcasm or reverse psychology? Lol

The tweet that got a low activity new twitter account permanently suspended.

[misc fork rambling...]

Didn't you know this is the Wall Observer Maximalist thread.

I know exactly what you mean but risk being shouted at to say that here 

On the date of the bitcoin cash fork. Bitcoin core forked too didn't they? That was when segwit was activated. The original bitcoin in reality is an etheric and ambigous thing which probably no longer exists. The real shit slinging match is over the brand.

Are Lambos the 8th deadly sin? Or just a little indulgence?

Can't wait for the $6144 contest.

      them boys that would like to buy in for cheap because they where allways saying BTC is to expensive we will buy when it drops....... and when it drops saying BTC is over..... and now hoping it will go down again for the exact some story, many crossed my ways .... there will allways be a nice group of nocoiners , but everybody got its own opinion offcourse
if BTC would go to very deep numbers let us say 2-2.5k then 6144 would maybe be a LIST target to play for
but i prefer the other way and bigger numbers to let some people freeroll into and to get really lucky
but nice to see there are some that prefer to sign up for lower numbers with "sign me up"  and indirectly hope for all the others to fail NICE    
but i think most of all this can only come from people whitout BTC  

luvin it

i replied to a 26 year old about crypto and he shouted back what would you know your old

if only he knew

(thats right he left his bitcoin wallet from 2010/11 on a hard drive and did not no how to get it)

Seeing as how the trolls came back to spend several concentrated pages trolling, we must be going up soon.

Is this thread still about btc or should it be moved somewhere else?

I see Ethereum doubled since the bottom. Bitcoin made only +35%. Are people really switching over?

Longs ready to get squeezed. Just like the shorts. And again no one is talking about it yet.

Oh noes, a short squeeze instead.   

Or for car people. Don't forget the world isn't black and white. It's been my dream to own a Lamborghini since I was a small child because I like them. No need for the hate.

If price breaks 6.2k, get ready for 5k, then maybe 3k

How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple)
It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able.

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https://www.r3.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.html

The only ICO that isn't for a shitcoin is the HoweyCoins ICO that's endorsed by theymos and all the mods. It's officially registered with the U.S. government and SEC compliant. You are GUARANTEED PROFIT from your investment from it.

Theymos himself made its announcement thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.0

Invest all your Bitcoins in it, and if you don't have any money to invest get a huge loan.

This is the bounty thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4029040.0

Theymos GUARANTEES PROFIT from it.

I remember on this forum when we used to welcome newbies to the forum and ask them to let us know if they have any questions. They'd say "thanks, still reading but will take you up on that if I do".

Now you see a newbie and think..."shit, signature campaigner trying to get his post count up. Shut up n00b."

You know I loaded half a bitcoin to the exchange just to be prepared and I was going to pull the trigger on just that little bit to hedge my bets a bit but you know there is a bit of good news coming out, we see more and more positive charts being posted all over the place, forbes posted an article on hashing power and the price isn't wildly moving. I am feeling good today, and if I am feeling good, the market is probably feeling this, fear is down i tell ya. Seriously I expect a few hundred increase today if not more.

Bitcoin price is moving back up. Looks like market will recover. What is the top short term?

Oh boy looks like the rally is back and wait was that a mother fucking bear trap yesterday?

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(I converted $ to € for you but not sure what 2-3 weeks is in European equivalent. Do you guys use metric or Unix time?)

Buy wall bitstamp

1000 K  @ $ 7620
 
what is it ?

 

triple bottom zone, please post accordingly

the mt. gox trustee has 1.4 billion $$ of BTC to move ..probably by the end of the year...(assuming the trustees get paid a % for their efforts)

thus it is gonna be more than 'weird' in the next year IMHO

A 'perfect storm of FUD'

so yeah, the price could easily go to 3k or below and stay there for more than a year if/when adoption catches up and mt. gox liquidation happens

sucks

Every fucking whale is trying to prove me wrong!  Unfortunately the analyst continue to believe that capitulation on Feb 5th was too early.
Only time will tell!

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Ah one of those mid 2014 , Bitcoin can never go below $400 arguments.
Bitcoin will go as low as it takes to flush any weak, middle and semi-strong hands. This forum isn't even close to the "OMG Bitcoin is dead and I've lost my house" tears of December 14, Jan 15.   Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.

I' m Drunk and high....


BUY BUY BUY   

Always*

After the previous (14 days ago) 14% rise in difficulty we have 2.77% now. Are we going to a halt in asic sales? Anyway, the miner break-even point is close, and this is typically considered as the (in our case tripple) bottom of the price  

I don't want to jinx it, but the price action is looking good.

Are we going back to the $7000 levels this week?

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

So it has died 315 times now.

And the next 24h are critical.

I'm active in the lightning network developer community and this is the first of this "heated debate" nonsense I have heard.

The real LN community and developers are too busy working on improving the protocol, usability, and robustness - don't give a single flying fuck about these issues you speak of.

Stop making shit up, guy.

Since really every person was talking about Bitcoin during the last Bullrun, I think there is too much weight on it in order to have the crazy and relentless growth we saw the last time.

My guess: And established modern Altcoin could overtake Bitcoin easily with the next crypto bull run.

TO THE MOOOOON!

is there some commandment from the core team that i dont know about? one that says btc MUST be stored in segwit addys, MOVE THEM NOW!!

you do know core supports legacy addys. and it always will support legacy addys. so i will continue long term hodl coins in legacy format. my choice.

this "YOU SHOULD STORE ALL YOUR COINS IN SEGWIT OR YOU ARE A SHILL OF SOME TYPE" stuff is ridiculous. i use core. i chose to use legacy for storage, segwit for spending.

ok now go ahead and accuse me of being something or another.

Despite the constant negative press $6900 covfefe

I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real.

Nine Inch Nails, fam.

That's too much.  I am waiting for triple digits.

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.


That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

Wow that was a lot  


@billyjoeallen
..sh*t IMHO is going to hit the fan..

I loved Bitcoin, but it's MySpace. I'm looking for the FaceBook of crypto. Bitcoin was pioneering, but a pioneer is a guy lying face down in a pool of his own blood with arrows in his back.  it's something to learn from.  

Am I missing some other relevant metric?

How do they determine value





There we go the short version

1) Yes shit always hits the fan with bitcoin
2) bitcoin blockchain cannot be duplicate holds evidence
3) Metric is Buy the Dip!
4) Value is what you are willing to pay

All you kids wanting to get in on the ground floor of something big.  Its not too late.  You have about a year to build your Bitcoin holdings.  Chasing shitcoin pumps is going to get you nowhere. 

Yet you're against peaceful relations with Russia. Walls might protect you from poor "low educated white males" masses, but they provide zero protection from nukes, you know.

Here’s the thing. In some ways the objective truth doesn’t matter.

The appearance to the world is that the American President is a weak fool.  That damages American interests and it damages Western interests by extension. 

Still having troubles preparing for this
Not 100% in so to say


All things point to this, the event
Have heard it would only be short term though
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Only one person here running a Russia Pysop program - so obvious these days, wish they would just give up

Not a Roger Ver Shill are we, sound like one, support any of his past projects

Kraken, Cryptsy anything...

Curious is all

But, but... Bitcoin?

Oh sure it's impossibru to effectively ban this naughty coin. Ban the airwaves lol.
But politicos incorrectly think when they state something it has force.
They banned drugs, cp, slavery etc

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45245149
Bitcoin buster? The search for a more stable cryptocurrency
By Matthew Wall Technology of Business editor

-front page of BBC today
-shilling for Goldman and other scammers

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On topic - The price doesn’t seem to be able to stay above $6700 atm.

I'm new here. Why does this thread have 21,000 pages? All I see is random charts and pictures of cute animals.

95 minutes for 320 mb? That's 3 hours to download a CD?

Yeah, we weren't that lucky during dial-up days.

Mmmm ok , So iT was Just a trap to see if someone noticed, or iT was because i’m writing on my iPhone and iT autocorrects me wrong, or because of my big fingers and te small letters .....whatever with beeing here everyday i feel my english writing is getting better So Another positive thing BTC is giving me 😁 ( i do know my english isn’t good my GF and few friends that also Reading on the threat finding iT hilarious  )

Target still $7200 then revisit $5700.

Now comes the hard question: still bullish as f* with a worldwide non-scalable 7tps global payment system or doubts who/what will be the future default decentralised payment network.

The latter would add to the scenario of a bull trap with a glide path towards sub $5,800.

Maybe you can shackle his ankles together and flog him. I'll be on the plank.

Bitcoin fell and took other coins in its grave. Eth lost almost 15% and its not few at all! The market is crazy. Who knows what what was the reason of the crash?

lol . you have to zoom all the way out on the 9 year chart

Up your bottom. 

what's to be pessimistic about? look where we are $6300 . in 2013 this would blow my mind. mass adoption hasn't even happend yet but public awareness is increasing exponentially .now we (and the world) no that $20000 is possible just as $1300 was shown to be possible
. its all good mate

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Totscha no

All nice, but i think it is impossible to rate all coins other than bitcoin to be shitcoins.
Also, it's easy said.... shitcoins.
If you do, take an effort in telling wich are not shitcoins.I mean, a few months ago, everyone was wild over etherum (and many still are). Its too easy to call it a shitcoin due to bad weather on the market.

Personally; why shouldn't i set some auto-buys on ETH for a nice low low price.. Divericating my portofolio for a bargain..
I mean: its more likely for eth to do 1500 euros, as it would for Bitcoin to do 53000 euro's, right? Both doing X10 from today. Taken from this point it seems like a safe bet..


If not agree'd thats fine, but tell me why with facts, not opinions pls.

okay, but how do you determine this?

just because of pre mining and such?
And as i recall (not sure)  doge was a coin made for fun to be used in gaming, so why wild this be an exeption? i think its only used for trading between coins? ( no harm meant, just trying to learn and understand.)

Perhaps you have not been raised at all?


I used to like you, now I can see what an arrogant little cunt you are. Go fuck yourself

If someone doesn't think like you, they are stupid and insults start flying. That shows who you are, a little dipshit probably with no friends. And maybe (probably) a virgin.

Have you thought of anger management? You really should. And take some communication classes too.

Well, he wouldn't get it if I wrote it nicely, hence the irony

His arrogance is getting worse, wasn't so bad half a year ago.

the fall will be slow to 3000, during this time ETH will grow

So what happens now ?

It's complicated ... we need new bulls to return bullish     HOLD FOREVER 

More likely we just keep breaking sideways until we achieve a trigger.


You sound like someone who sold the top of the market at $3k.