My own view is they have had plenty of time with the large influx of BTC up to 18K to cover their tether, buying back BTC at the low of 5k or selling at the high for usd

whatever version catching them up on the tether books ....etc

it may be 'irregular' on how they got the books balanced..but don't think it is illegal...assuming, they had a prudent exit plan for BTC being a bubble

to cover their ass, you'd surely think so...we will see....but, as we have not heard anything, looks like, IMHO, they covered the shortfall with cheap BTC by now.

Oh yea, and if anyone was wondering what the (((government's))) solution is for the coming Seneca cliff in oil:

http://www.newsweek.com/disease-x-deadly-mystery-malady-could-one-day-kill-millions-839759

Disease X represents the knowledge that a serious international epidemic could be caused by a pathogen currently unknown to cause human disease, and so the R&D Blueprint explicitly seeks to enable cross-cutting R&D preparedness that is also relevant for an unknown “Disease X” as far as possible.

You make it sound like macro trends are dependent on micro connections.  

It is a generally held belief that the spike down to $6k was caused by our Tokyo whale and that he will not sell again until September.  If this is correct then the $6k drop can be disregarded as an extraordinary event.

I appreciate that suggesting we may be going through a consolidation phase cuts across your belief that we are in a 2014 replay.  For myself, I am not so sure about that.  Roach is merely talking his book.  

Please keep in mind that I am not betting the house on this chart.  I am fully hedged against a sub $3k drop. But it’s useful to consider what a March recovery should look like as it is an entirely plausible outcome.  In this regard, I don’t particularly mind that the candles don’t match up nicely.   Looking at the forest rather than the trees if that metaphor suits you better.

Is this worrying to any of you veterans?

http://fortune.com/2018/03/20/bitcoin-price-blockchain-child-porn-ban-crime/

I'm usually able to shrug off MSM bitcoin FUD but this makes me nervous.

Is this roach or a new fucktard in this thread? (Jacques)

If you want to keep up with the conversation on Tethers, you can go to this link. https://twitter.com/bitfinexed?lang=en
This has been a hot topic of conversation for several month. You really think all of the Bitcoin whales have been oblivious to this factor for several months? The fact that Bitfinex/Tether has not been the most transparent regarding this matter is already priced in. If Tether is indeed a shitcoin, with absolutely no USD to back it up, the honey badger doesn't give a shit. Are we overly concerned when some other shitcoin makes a tumble because it's a scam? BTC is traded for those shitcoins too, just like Tether.

Mark Zuckerberg Called People Who Handed Over Their Data to Facebook "Dumb Fucks"
https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a19490586/mark-zuckerberg-called-people-who-handed-over-their-data-dumb-f/


fuckface? dumbbook?

I mean people really are dumb fucks for thinking this louse was going to play "nice" with any of their data, let alone their most private and intimate thoughts and feelings.

It should be clear to all by now that Google, Facebook, Amazon are all intricately intertwined with the Western intelligence agencies and if you want to have any semblance of a private life without these jackals rummaging through all your digital doings then do NOT go anywhere near any of them.

The spooks have gone full retard a long time ago and have basically written self-serving laws, many of them retrospectively to cover prior crimes against their tax-paying citizens, and gotten dumb fuck politicians to sign off or push through under urgency in times of 'crises'  these surveillance laws that would have made Stasi blush. What Facebook is up to is merely a corporate sop to keep them quiet about the really nasty shit that the intel ops guys are doing 'for your own protection' ... throw the attack dogs a sheeple now and then to keep them quiet while the flock gets led to the slaughterhouse.

Don't tell them, their life is at stake. They really believe that everything they have on Facebook is their own but, well, you know the story.
Aldous Huxley was right from the start. Have a look at Amusing Ourselves to Death and read Brave New World

If Tether is legit, then the printing of Tethers is justified by people making actual wire transfers to Bitfinex and Bitfinex making sure there are enough tethers for people to transfer them to other exchanges if they care to.
If Tether is not legit, then the house of cards will tumble and Bitfinex will become insolvent. Good riddance. Honey badger may end up taking a little nap after getting bitten; but in the end honey badger won't give a shit.

They printed roughly $600 million Tethers two days before news of the subpoena dropped. That vertical line is equal parts hilarious and harrowing. The ultimate fear with Tether is that they are timing these dumps when the price of Bitcoin is low, and therefore, the price of Bitcoin is artificially inflated by a coin that has yet to prove it has the requisite amount of dollars in the bank to justify the number of Tethers being issued. There is some data backing this assertion up.

Summary

    Author’s opinion - it is highly unlikely that Tether is growing through any organic business process, rather that they are printing in response to market conditions.
    Tether printing moves the market appreciably; 48.8% of BTC’s price rise in the period studied occurred in the two-hour periods following the arrival of 91 different Tether grants to the Bitfinex wallet.
    Bitfinex withdrawal/deposit statistics are unusual and would give rise to further scrutiny in a typical accounting environment.
    If there is questionable activity, the author believes a 30-80% reduction in BTC price could be forecast.

Ivanka Trump is sitting in as Secretary of State.  That’s fucking hilarious.   This President is such a piece of shit.

According to IBM, this is only the beginning. "Within the next five years, cryptographic anchors — such as ink dots or tiny computers smaller than a grain of salt — will be embedded in everyday objects and devices," says IBM head of research Arvind Krishna. If he's correct, we'll see way more of these tiny systems in objects and devices in the years to come.

Images to these forums are proxied. Sometimes they don't appear on the first load, giving the impression of a mostly blank post, at times.

I find usually reloading the page or previewing the post, prior to hitting the post button, usually gets images loaded properly.

We are repeating the same patterns from 2013/2014/2015.

Bitcoin will drop back down to 2-3k and consolidate there for a while before resuming the next major bull run, probably fluctuating between 3 and 5 grand for a while.

Eth will return to $200ish, Bitcoin Cash will drop to 300-400

This is my prediction and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a nutcase.

I can only go off what I see happening now and so far the pattern is almost the same.

I like how people claim bitcoin can't go below cost of production...except for the fact that one of the largest miners on earth (KNC) went bankrupt from exactly that happening already.  In case you haven't figured it out, it's not actually possible for the money changers to destroy gold and silver by naked shorting it; they can only short it down to cost of production and that's it.  However, it's extremely easy for the money changers to destroy bitcoin if they want by shorting it below cost of production:

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With all due respect, I think you are mistaken (or a newbie, full of shit, see above). Neither Trump nor the USA control BTC.

not my proudest fap

Candide, penetrated with so much goodness, threw himself at his feet, crying, “Now I am convinced that my Master Pangloss told me truth when he said that everything was for the best in this world; for I am infinitely more affected with your extraordinary generosity than with the inhumanity of that gentleman in the black cloak, and his wife.”
 

Funny how the ATH was on the day futures went online.


https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Starting to look like that....all the friends and relatives are 'piling on' that I am an Idiot..and that I should sell, sell, sell it all!

Luckily, (or unluckily depending on how low BTC and ALTS dump) ...I am essentially 'immune' to peer pressure on such...however...they are sooooo wound up about it

I may cause a couple coronary's among my friends... (hmmmm)

Anyway, back to my original plan ..which also drives them crazy...



brad

This Parkland teen got destroyed in the very first reply to her tweet:

https://twitter.com/delaneytarr/status/980806714743296002/photo/1


Be careful what you wish for, folks.

Most of you probably seen this when it was published but if you have not I would encourage checking out this article by Jimmy Song.  Who has a great ability imo to express critical thinking in ways that are easy to understand and digest.

https://medium.com/@jimmysong/why-bitcoin-is-different-e17b813fd947

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299 Don’t Blame the Mice.

I was banned from Coinbase for possessing, sending, or receiving blacklisted coins. How's that for Monero propaganda?

Pure degenitard gambling. I knew what I was doing.

Hindsight is a bitch, and most of us are probably in the same boat. As long as you believe in Bitcoin, it will all work out.

Indian exchanges are all like 'we have no banking anyway' https://mobile.twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/981890547551035393

I am sorry, but I find that this woman did try. And that's worth saluting . And apparently she isn't insulting or degrading or anything negative, but just in between 2 galaxies...

so thumb up, heart, friend request and peace sign !

hug noob.

I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn.

In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances.

all drugs are good mkay
sometimes in moderation and sometimes fun with no moderation. fuck it enjoy life

What if you like it so much that you would wanna keep on trying it for the rest of your life even if it may have a high chance of fucking it up?

then avoid it if you have no self control

That's just a matter of personal fortitude and self restraint.

Oh god yes, I love Mescaline. Unfortunately it's too expensive and rare to get as HCl and I'm not too keen on eating pounds of hellishly bitter cacti. One can only dream that the renaissance of research in this field will make it more accessible by the time I'm an old fuck.

I'm really curious, how do people end up almost dead on LSD though? Other than Mescaline it was the most lucid substance that I've ever taken, even at higher doses.

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I'd say then your priorities are backwards. Drugs are only fun if you've got your shit more or less together. Otherwise they're like alcoholism, which is, misery to say the least. I mean sure, nobody knows what the fuck they are doing and what the hell is going on in life (mostly), but there are times, places and doses for just about anything in life.

all drugs work because they affect the brain. amphetamines are not easier on your brain chemistry than psylocibin or lsd. i´d say that amphetamines are the bigger burden for the brain.

Very annoying post incoming.. ... .. .

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/20/the-nsa-worked-to-track-down-bitcoin-users-snowden-documents-reveal/

You can get Cacti all around, they're easy to find, legal, and fairly cheap. Pure Mescaline HCl however is a different story. It takes quite some effort to extract it out of cacti, and I'm not sure that part would even be legal and hence drive up the cost due to effort and well, legality. It's still dirt cheap if you compare it to any other form of entertainment, but it's quite expensive compared to LSD or mushrooms. Roughly ten times more expensive. Which is still nothing if you consider the fact that LSD costs less than a movie ticket (while providing more value).

As far as LSD "building in the system" is concerned. It's definitely excreted by the body, so if we're talking about long-term accumulation of residue that's not going to happen. It's true that any death surrounding LSD would be due to the actions during the trip or other external factors though. You would have to try really hard to ingest a lethal dose of it and would probably experience a loss of self before you could even ingest that much.

And damn, I've known a guy who just randomly stripped naked in the middle of the street whilst on MDMA (and lots of weed). Never seen anybody start yelling at cars on a highway though. Whatever happened to dosing at home or in a forest though?

Old news is old.

But..... surprised?

Meanwhile a 5 year old is being prescribed an amphetamine right now to improve their character.  

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

For the senior citizens, Canned Heat in 1968, "Amphetamine Annie".

This is a song with a message
I want you to heed my warning
I wanna tell you all a story
About this chick I know
They call her "Amphetamine Annie"
She's always shovelling snow
I sat her down and told her
I told her crystal clear
"I don't mind you getting high
But there's one thing you should fear"
"Your mind might think its flying, baby
On those little pills
But you ought to know it's dying, 'cause
Speed kills"
But Annie kept on speeding
Her health was getting poor
She saw things in the window
She heard things at the door
Her mind was like a grinding mill
Her lips were cracked and sore
Her skin was turning yellow
I just couldn't take it no more
She thought her mind was flying
On those little pills
She didn't it was going down fast, 'cause
Speed kills
Well I sat her down and told her
I told her one more time
"The whole wide human race has taken
Far too much methedrine"
She said "I don't care what a Limey says
I've got to get it on
I'm not here to just see no man
Who come from across the pond
She wouldn't heed my warning
Lord, she wouldn't hear what I said
Now she's in the graveyard, and she's
Awfully dead

Hand of Doom lyrics

Whatcha gonna do?
Time's caught up with you
Now you wait your turn
You know there's no return
Take your written rules
You join the other fools
Turn to something new
Now it's killing you
First it was the bomb
Vietnam napalm
Disillusioning
You push the needle in
From life you escape
Reality's that way
Colours in your mind
Satisfy your time
Oh you, you know you must be blind
To do something like this
To take the sleep that you don't know
You're giving death a kiss, oh, little fool now
Your mind is full of pleasure
Your body's looking ill
To you it's shallow leisure
So drop the acid pill,
Don't stop to think now
You're having a good time baby
But that won't last
Your mind's all full of things
You're living too fast
Go out enjoy yourself
Don't bottle it in
You need someone to help you
To stick the needle in, yeah
Now you know the scene
Your skin starts turning green
Your eyes no longer seeing
Life's reality
Push the needle in,
Face death's sickly grin
Holes are in your skin,
Caused by deadly pin
Head starts spinning 'round
You fall down to the ground
Feel your body heave
Death's hands starts to weave
It's too late to turn
You don't want to learn
Price of life you cry
Now you're gonna die
Songwriters: Michael Butler / Ozzy Osbourne / Tony Iommi / William Ward

Vitalik dislikes America and its policies.
He did say they are weak while in Russia in an interview done last year right before he met with Putin.

I think he is prepared for when this happens with his own ICO.
https://fitvitalik.io

Not endorsed by him of course. He will not give ETH away.

Wow don't insult that scammer Vitalik Buterin or you'll be assaulted with unintelligible insults by his hoodwinked serfs.

Wah wah code is law Vitalik is a meany

Here's some classic Vitalik:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwfYG6FG71Y

If you've never seen it, it does not disappoint.

https://www.coindesk.com/short-ether-bitcoin-says-citrons-andrew-left/

"I Would Short Ether Before Bitcoin", Says Citron's Andrew Left

I also have a hard time solving captchas sometimes. It is reaching ridiculous levels. Soon it will be above human "processing" ability and only a new generation of very specialized bots will be able to solve them. Ironic, isn't it?...
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Salty eth haters never disappoint. What part is it you hate so much? That its stealing bitcoins market cap? That it has a real plan to address scaling on chain? If you want to hate something, make it garbage like btrash, which while having no use, no purpose, no anything - is worth $25 billion. And it doesn't solve or attempt to solve anything.

The vast majority of you seem to be stuck on the ETC fork and now hate it because you didn't invest. Maybe consider diversifying instead of crying.

I don't disagree. Let's start with the 2-child-max-per-couple rule and enforce that first.

As long as it isn't a Nobel price I'm ok with it.

I thought that was when they gave it to I'llBombYa   

yeah right?

good fucking question actually

about 2 weeks ago they seem to have overcome my current suite of blockers (ABP+NoScript+Privacy Badger running on firefox)

I figured ABP would have it sorted in a couple days...but you are right, it is getting rather annoying.

Nobody else noticed anything about 2 weeks ago?

Bullhound predicts that Ethereum, now a distant second to bitcoin in terms of market cap, will vault to the No. 1 position.

90% correction - from here, or from the top? I could see $2500. I can't see $1000.

I doubted them until they said ETH would rise to #1, they're totally legit  

I am explaining the logic of the sellers at 10K. It applies regardless of whatever you think about me or future price movements. Changing the subject to something irrelevant like that to or the participant of a conversation is a sign of ignorance.

The U.S. Federal Reserve system has been very interested in bitcoin lately and has released a bunch of reports from Federal Reserve leaders and researchers from different offices. This past Monday, the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco and a professor from Stanford University published a paper that concludes that bitcoin-based futures markets affected the cryptocurrency’s price patterns since Cboe and CME launched the products.

Just some interesting things I am looking at today.

Have not tried this but it might be something to look into.
https://hackernoon.com/how-to-setup-bitcoin-historical-price-data-for-algo-trading-in-five-minutes-485cd5a0b3ed...

My grandma is 93 years old, and she was asking me about Bitcorn the other day. That was a bit surprising.

Australia banning cash payments over 10k now.
First take their guns then make a move for the cash. http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/cash-payments-over-10000-to-be-banned-as-government-targets-50-billion-black-economy/news-story/9df0646ba704bd170df5b3996d512f52

Sure, "Black Market", you mean money which you currently don't oversee and have control of?

Are the people just gonna roll over on this?  I suspect some will be looking at BTC as a possible alternative to fight the NWO.

In its response, the government said it agreed with or supported the majority of the recommendations, including potentially requiring wages to be paid into bank accounts, effectively outlawing cash-in-hand payments. Workers in the “gig economy” will also face greater scrutiny.

I'm just barely younger than when the Bic Mac sandwich was introduced and was a sophomore in High School when the computer came out. My first computer was a TI-99/4A.

Anyone else start out on a 166mhz pentium?

TRS80->C64->Amiga500->Amiga4000->~100mHz Pentium

So...wtf.

Coinbase is stopping all payment services?

And BitPay is shilling for bcash, charging high transaction fees for BTC payments even when the mempool is empty and then not providing a bitcoin address to make a payment.

No more bitcoin payments for Expedia. My hosting service is making impossible to use bitcoin.

Bitcoin use in the US is about to die.

Sick FUD, broheim.

Also, McAfee is about ~12% below dickline at present.

https://dickline.info/

My first job was a point on the early n86's when chips were sx or dx (internal maths co processor)

Ofc years before I had all the same stuff mentioned here.

A spectrum that crashed if you touched the keyboard etc.   

First game experience was a thing like big mac at an uncles house, it was a text driven game.

Did all those gaming sessions turn me brainy? its problem solving.

I was trying to keep my kids away from gaming too early, but now I have seen how quick they learnt to solve the puzzles. I am changing my mind.

Hand eye coordination, trying things that might work? all good eh?

Is this thread still about btc or should it be moved somewhere else?

Sheeit.



Everyone blame this guy.

Most of investing is done with borrowed money lol. There is such a thing as good debt. But if you're happy with your financial situation, then good for you. Keep doing you.

Even the thieving (((bankers))) are using leverage to buy up your debt! We are so screwed

To the extent that Mister_Success is NOT acting too arrogant for his own smarts, he does seem to make a decent point regarding the leveraging of money towards appreciating assets instead of depreciating assets, so in that regard, sometimes, borrowing money can be a good tool to leverage a person into a better position that might not be within his options if he were not able to utilize loans.   Sure traditional banks have devolved, especially the bigger ones that have gotten involved in the sucking off of the money printing tits... so in that regard, there are some, so called banks that no longer service the needs of regular peeps.  So, in regards to investing in bitcoin, it would be better to invest into bitcoin rather than fiat, so could be profitable to use some credit in order to leverage your bitcoin investment -  though it can be a dangerous game, when it comes to highly volatile assets such as bitcoin, so you have to play your cashflows smartly, if you do not want to get rekt based on short term expectations, when bitcoin does seem to be longer term profitable.

I'm a member of Mensa and I know for a fact that many members are very active in the bitcoin community both in my country and globally. Mensa has multiple bitcoin/blockchain SIGs (Special Interest Groups), they are organizing events and meetups, doing education, working on a schoolbook - just to mention a few things.

<sorry for quoting the village idiot, but I had to comment this obvious lie>

https://grist.org/article/bitcoins-energy-use-got-studied-and-you-libertarian-nerds-look-even-worse-than-usual/

Lol @these articles

"Participants must be at least a newbie to join our campaign "

Well I guess that narrows it down.


Our leader musta got bored or something....

https://tradingplacesnewsletter.com/move-over-crypto-enthusiasts-wall-street-will-take-it-from-here-5b5a9067bc5
ugh
ugh

The lack of relationship to real world fundamentals means that the true value of a crypto assets is impossible to determine (e.g., as opposed to price/earnings ratio of a stock), but the price is readily apparent by the balance of supply and demand in the market. This is a trader’s paradise! As a former trader, I did not know whether Treasury yields were going up or down a year from now (or even hours from now), but I could make a two-sided market to any counterparty on the street because I had a ton of information about who wanted to buy or sell.

Uncensored money and distributed applications were great concepts but have found success in few real-world applications. However, the blockchain has found its killer app and it is Trading. There are a few new players in the market (notably, the crypto exchanges), but for the most part crypto is fitting into the existing world of the capital markets.

So, thank you crypto-nerds. You have invented the greatest financial instrument ever known to man. Wall Street will take it from here.

This small dump doesn't make much sense, don't sell. Volumes are low don't get fooled by those who want your coins. Remember there are only 21M (and we all know there are even less due to losses and such).
Let the panic unfold before your eyes but, don't be afraid. You all know how it works

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Point is the bulls were very rude to me and others for not playing along with the moon arrows when we were at 10K, and since I have not yet recieved any letters of apology I suppose they are blaming us for this drop as well.  I used to see in stock forums the bulls were always blaming bears for ruining their pump and compromising the float lockdown or whatever. I thought it was ridiculous.

Enforce KYC/AML rules that anyone with any clue of how the world works could see coming years ago.

They'll just lose their customers to decentralized exchanges with this move. They are shooting their own foot. Most people were making trades on those exchanges because they weren't asking any papers, now that's gone, those people will move to somewhere else which doesn't do that shit and Dex's pretty much guarantee this.

They'll just lose their customers to decentralized exchanges with this move. They are shooting their own foot. Most people were making trades on those exchanges because they weren't asking any papers, now that's gone, those people will move to somewhere else which doesn't do that shit and Dex's pretty much guarantee this.

Thats not entirely true, in enforcing them they also added a terms and condition that you must accept in which you waive the right to sue them. So in effect they are holding your account hostage unless you agree to waive your rights and I think the word for that is extortion. They also set a 2 week time limit and in a previous email they stated that you would be allowed to withdraw funds if you did not agree to the new terms which they have not honored.


I personally went back after they stated we would be able to withdraw during a legacy transaction period because of the margin market. I just get all warm and fuzzy when I can get away with shorting ETH.



I'm sure they've done the math and figure the assets they seize will make it worth it.

TOP for standing up to the rothschild schills  

There's a lot of tolerance here, but just coming in and hurling blanket insults isn't cool. What pushed your post into delete territory was probably the "fags" part. And I don't owe you any courtesy. 

Did you come up with that yourself?  That is brilliant.

I don't see what is controversial about my statement... which part of my statement is controversial? 

my doubting of the moon landing or my confidence that the earth is not flat?

Perhaps it is better that we forget about it. What a phenomenal waste of money, time and talent. NASA would have been better off, and gathered much more useful science by sending umpteen unmanned missions instead.  I feel the exact same way about NASA's current project on sending a manned mission to Mars.

For me it was always about people acting in a manner that draws attention to themselves that they ought to be embarrassed about, but of course arent, because they were after all trying to draw attention to it. Southpark had it right when they said that people on loud motorcycles are fags, or more traditionally but also appropriate people who act flamboyant, or those people who wear spandex when they ride a bike or people who's cars bounce or make loud booms, those stupid eye lashes on cars, people with a "popped" collar or those stupid hats that have the bill perfectly flat and a sticker still on them from a store in the mall called "lidz". Anything that is intended to draw attention and once it does draw your attention you are like, jesus h christ I wish I never been coerced into realizing that you existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k4Fsg11-w

All the jew hating on here..my /ignore list is filling up!

It is all so 'silly' and such a 'generalization' to blame a group for whatever reason....

it's a money thing..those that have and those that do not...money and power concentrate...at least in uncontrolled 'crony capitalism' of the

18th century and standard oil and the Rockefellers etc....seems it is doing so quite rapidly again this decade as well...there will be backlash IMHO,

as it has 'swung' too far ..but we will see...

money has no religion ...it is all about 'power' over others to your advantage.

any other theory is just silly

Consider why the jews have been kicked out of 300 different areas in the world over the past few thousand years. What is it that makes everyone hate them. I'm sure you have an answer to share with the class, given how silly the whole thing is. There surely must be a simple and entirely rational answer.

I've heard that for years as well. I recently read this about it.  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-write-stuff/

Waddafak?

Only 23 of top 100 coins are actually PoW/mineable coins and rest are token crap.  

Either most of them are not what they seem to be or people lost interest in legit coins which offer mining, fair distribution.

pencil shavings floating around were perceived to be a problem as they could get into delicate electronic packages. hence, pens.

at least there was some reasoning involved. whether it was valid? who knows. NASA (back then) was all about safety, anything that might cause equipment failure was minimized.

"Many" = "<0.01%"

God I try not to bite to this ridiculous shit. I worked for both NASA and ESA been to lots of bases seen lots of satellites.

How do you think GPS works? or is that also pretend?

Just stupid idiots, and I lost because I replied.

I'm at the Isle of Man TT. Here they wrap the poles in padding to protect them from the riders, not vice versa.

Because people today are cowards.

I believe. As a ham radio operator, I have personally transmitted a signal (with my own equipment), and had it relayed back from a satellite. I communicated with another ham doing the same things.Nobody else faked that.

Do you WANT another holocaust? Because if there is something about jews that makes them objectively detestable and we don't find out what it is, then that is exactly what will happen.

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So they are hypocrites, sort of like chinese?

I remember one example where jews wanted to leave, but the country wanted then to stay. Ended with U.S. sanctions against the country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusenik
Check out the picture...

In addition to the Jews, broader categories included:

    Other ethnicities, such as Volga Germans attempting to leave for Germany, Armenians wanting to join their diaspora, and Greeks forcibly removed by Stalin from Crimea and other southern lands to Siberia.
    Members of persecuted religious groups, such as the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church, Baptists and other Protestant groups, Russian Mennonites, and Jehovah's Witnesses.

A typical pretext to deny emigration was the real or the alleged association with state secrets..

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Bitcointopia is the capital of a newly formed nation run by Bitcoin appropriations, Blockchain voting & BIP based laws, formed by Articles Of Incorporation, Declaration Of Independence, UN Law & the Treason Act 1949

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v nice find. totally fishy

I really like the quotable statement he made @17:18 referring to the newbs that entered the market during the run up:


I.e., help educate them.

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I did not do anything beyond making a response to a previous post, and an attempted clarification of my posts.  Because of your own inner focused delusions, you seem to trying to read more into the situation than exists.  In other words, just stirring shit....

Of course Antonopoulos has done great things for the public
awareness of Bitcoin. However, he is also busy shilling for Ethereum
and has even written a whole book on it:
https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Ethereum-Building-Smart-Contracts/dp/1491971940/


Except ICOs as a way to enrich the founders of the respective projects, Ethereum
has spawned jack shit.

I can´t take anyone seriously, who recommends newbies to stay in Bitcoin
for "the principles" while shilling Ethereum at the same time.

And don´t get me started on the sketchy Ethereum pre-sale.
A good read regarding the pre-sale is this Medium article:
https://medium.com/hasufl/ethereum-presale-dynamics-revisited-c1b70ac38448

I've been saying for a while that this forum needs a thread where nothing is off topic. That way off topic conversation would have a place to go. As it stands now, where do we go to shoot the shit with people who have the same interests as us but don't happen to want to talk specifically about that interest that we all have in common? I made such a thread once and the forum moderators killed it and so people use threads like this instead. /shrug

What ? OP is certainly a bundle of sticks...

* Reads the PDF *



To be fair, it does appear to be a newsletter from some fringe group that was added to the dossier.

...I warned bitcoin was in a serious bubble last December and I sincerely hope many of you got out over $18,000....

bitcoin just had a 14.7% difficulty change upwards. that's the biggest since january. there sure is a lot of firepower out there somewhere.

The difficulty increased by 634 billion which is the largest increase in the history of bitcoin. The increase in this period alone is nearly equal to the entire network difficulty 1 year ago.

that is a lot of motherfucking hash

It probably has something to do with this:

https://adclair.com/gmo-introduced-a-new-miner-that-will-take-the-market-from-bitmane/
https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/1003908868114509824


Or this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3359468.20;topicseen (S11's)

Rosanne Barr, is that you?


Oh sure... Apologizing is the proper thing to do if you conclude that you may have gone too far, or if you are not sure about whether you went too far.... So fair enough... Yet, in the same light, if you are having some of these kinds of issues, then you may want to post less frequently during those kinds of periods, perhaps?  Ultimately, it is up to you to decide how frequently to post and what to post.. I do think that everyone should attempt to be aware of his/her own medication limitations, if they are present, though.

The hash rate scares me, all that money being poured into serving the network.     Im all for efficiency driven competition, the network has to stay cheap vs competitors to use so I dont want to see them with higher costs from big R&D on asic.   I guess it'll work itself out in some way
https://thecryptograph.net/sec-says-bitcoin-can-replace-sovereign-currencies-not-security-but-icos-are/

This seems massive news, taxing every single transaction and exchange of crypto is basically criminalising a population because normal people cant be paying accountants to do their books because they bought a bottle of shampoo with bitcoin.   Seems there is conflicting ideas and it cant be that people suffer from just doing normal things.

Roughly bullish action, 7720 as a short term cap and 7370 seems a good base.  yea I have 7720 already drawn in as a fib line, that'd make 8043 target upside initially

Andy Warhol Is a Bitcoin Star for 15 Minutes

Thanks to the blockchain, anyone can own a tiny part of a masterpiece. They just can’t touch it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-08/andy-warhol-bitcoins-are-famous-for-15-minutes

..


edit: figured my 4000th post should be a little wordier than usual.  How'd I do JG?

I like how Germany is good in accepting crypto.

German Banks Have the Right to Exchange Bitcoin, Ethereum to Euros on ATMs Says Regulator

Germany’s FCA, the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin), has clarified that banks have the right to offer bitcoin or eth to euro exchanges on ATMs.

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/06/05/german-banks-right-exchange-bitcoin-ethereum-euros-atms-says-regulator

In Germany Bitcoin is considered a private money. Exchanging bitcoins is akin to exchanging foreign currency.

In order to set up a bitcoin exchange in Germany you need to get the several hundred thousand euro foreign exchange license just to get started.

They block localbitcoins because they consider it an exchange.

RIP Bourdain  

"Your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. Enjoy the ride."

...

who needs ethereum kitties when you haz munero ponies inkoming?    lulz

 The US Congress has the option to buy back the FED at $450 millions (per Congressional Records). When the Congress does this, it will own back the billions of US Government Bonds held by the FED. The US Government will actually PROFIT by buying back the FED! Also, the US government no longer has to pay interests to the FED owners on those bonds.

All this dump and doomsday talk just because another exchange gets hacked. 
Sigh!

Go Bitcoin Go!

https://ethereumworldnews.com/cryptos-dump-as-korean-exchange-coinrail-gets-hacked/

That's not goatse, silly. That's Roger Ver.

...The concept of fungibility goes to a kind of blacklisting of coins that cause some coins to be less spendible than others, and there is no fucking blacklisting going on through segwit or through lightning network...

Curious, are dollars (USD) fungible? Are physical dollar bills and dollars which only exist in a bank ledger separate asset classes? What about dollar bills that have been marked in some way?

Fair enough.  

I have been largely painting this fungibility topic with broad strokes regarding what seems to be a topic that attempts to spread FUD rather than treating an actual serious bitcoin issue which fungibility currently is not such a topic, even though surely there are likely going to be attempted bitcoin fungibility attacks in the future - whether informationally or the employment of various methods, like you suggested blacklisting as one possible method that may not be easy to carry out in bitcoin if "people-empowering" tools continue to be developed and evolve.

You are likely correct that there is a sliding scale when it comes to fungibility, and I think that most free market types are going to perceive the most value in bitcoin being associated with greater levels of fungibility... so yeah, you are right that lesser fungibility may maintain some value, but the amount of decrease in value may be a lot greater than what you seem to be projecting it to be.  For example if confidence is lost because coins get blacklisted, then surely that seems problematic to me if it is allowed to occur.  So if any 3rd party such as coinbase or fed government tries to label coins, then there would likely be some effort by the bitcoin community to either not use their services or to move coins to other location and clean them of their blacklisting.

there it is...perfect timing

Obviously you need to improve your financial education regarding the theory of currencies. I'd recommend some books, but it may be easier to start here: https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/ Good luck

banks could learn from blockchain and adapt some features. Can not be that hard to make account information like balance and transaction public viewable. a additional online banking feature where account owners can control the access to this information by some kind of api.

I bet banks will do things like that to fight bitcoin.

love the lebowski shit.... gotta finish my tattoo quickly , gonna see the movie one of these days again been to long already  

https://tucsky.github.io/SignificantTrades/#

turn the sound on etc.

[img witdh=100]https://i.imgur.com/whEWaFO.png[/img]

meh documented on twitter. see also trilema.com and even youtube

anyway, other well-documented attackers include Barry Silbert (New York Agreement) and Vitalik Buterin (Ethereum)

nation state attackers not yet well documented

That is why the coming forced hard fork of SegWit as it is kicked off the Satoshi protocol when miners start taking the SegWit donations, is all about immutability.

I don’t even think a tail reward will prevent centralization of the control of mining and I’m not referring to pools (see linked posts below for my detailed reasoning). Bitcoin was designed for a specific purpose which is not what some of you think it is.

The populist movement of Core will of course eventually evolve into redistribution of wealth.

Satoshi engineered an exquisite immunity into his protocol. And it is all about destroying politics.

For those of you who missed it, the detailed elocution was in the following 2 threads linked from this quote:

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They’re apparently trying to copy DFINITY now because Vitalik couldn’t figure out scalability after 3 years of hanging out with the coolest nerds.

https://medium.com/@shelby_78386/the-state-of-scaling-in-ethereum-is-abysmal-df9ba6faecb

settings...audio
https://us16.campaign-archive.com/?u=67eb93253df610fc7b047c270&id=8927bd8933 <-- coinbase fuckery

maybe he meant allocution

 IQ rankings of forum members based on standardized testing.

...

It's funny that.

Last week we lost a chicken.  What pissed me off is that it took the head off and didn't even eat the rest.  A few days later I get a call at work, the racoon is in my yard in broad daylight.  I rush home steaming...it's on motherfucker.  She's got it chased up a tree.  I don welding gloves, leather jacket, goggles...ladder up against tree...grab a chunk of 5/8" ground rod that was handy.

I get up there and young racoon is looking at me like...WTF is this monkey about?

Anyway, long story, I DID stab him and I DID knock him 30' out of the tree and he had a real bad day...but at the critical moment I failed to focus my energy sufficiently on the killing blow.

It is hard killing things.

Maybe, once in a while, people use a BIG word just to attempt to look smarter - but frequently, there is just BAD word choice going on.  Surely, there are also trolls out there, who engage in all kinds of disingenuous tactics to divert from the topic, but in the end, I believe that you are overstating the pretentiousness phenomenon.. and describing something that largely does not exist.  Lots of small brained peeps accused college educated folks of this, and some of those people fail and refuse to educate themselves while accusing the other person of pretending.

On the other hand, I will back track a little bit and say to you that I do recognize a phenomenon of ICO and/or Alt coin pumpers and bitcoin bashers engaging in attempts at over technicalizing and complicating their explanation of some matter that they are describing in order to make their CON job seem to be more important than it is...

In our current world of information and fake news, each of us has a responsibility to engage in critical thinking and critical reading, and figure out if some presenter is presenting genuine ideas badly or attempting to con us (whether intentional or not).  There can be some good people with good intentions that unwittingly get caught up in carrying the con water for someone else.

I am glad that you stuck it out, because I did not in no way attempt to use BIG words in order to attempt to marvel anyone nor to "put on airs."

I think here's more: https://medium.com/@coop__soup/00000000000000000021e800c1e8df51b22c1588e5a624bea17e9faa34b2dc4a-cd4b67d446be

Appears as though the bears decided to test the low 6000s again. Unfortunately, the reaction from support does not appear anywhere near as strong as the last time this range was tested. I have a hunch that the 6000 is not going to hold this time. However, with the way this market is going, a huge green candle on the 15 minute could be just around the corner.

Executive Order Shitcoin

Lol already lost it's immutability. One mutable piece of shit centralized coin (EOS) trying to replace another piece of shit centralized coin (ETH).

This shit just gets better every year.

I take it you work at the Nazi party headquarters if you were OK with all the Hitler pictures and joos talk

but not a holiday snap, oh no!

we need more bottom pictures to make this stop.

Uhoh (?)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cryptocurrencies-bitfinex/bitfinex-chief-strategy-officer-departs-idUSKBN1JI2IN

...

I'm probably going to absolutely hate what my bot did while I was at work. Something tells me that this minnow just got eaten whole. Unfortunately, don't have the PW to the bot site. Stored in a PW manager at home.

They paint the world full of shadows, and then tell their children to stay close to the light. Their light. Their reasons, their judgments. Because in the darkness, there be dragons.

But it isn't true.

We can prove that it isn't true.

In the dark there is discovery, there is possibility, there is freedom in the dark when someone has illuminated it.

From email...

Friend,

We are getting closer to the bottom. Do not sell. $3000 is the lowest, but
I think we are probably going to triple bottom above $5000. The low may
have been in February at $5850 on Kraken. This is the capitulation we need
to see at the bottom. Now would be the time to buy more, not sell. It
would also be a good time to trade some BTC for some oversold altcoins.

If I am wrong and we go into a crypto-winter now, we will still be back at
$300+K by 2024. So even if we are wrong, we are not wrong in the end.

Hodl. This is your retirement. Do not sell.

Also very bullish news released yesterday that Mt. Gox will be returning
the BTC instead of selling it and returning fiat. Also this means Mark
Karpeles will not keep any of it! Justice is finally being served.


>
> Don't know if you follow Lior or not, but sounds like he is abandoning
> cryptos.  Any thoughts on this?
> Friend

A bit extreme to characterize Bitfinex as "the market maker"  


Otherwise the remainder of what you say in your linked-above post seems reasonable.

BTC is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled as we work to find, test, and audit a solution. Thank you for your patience in the meantime.

I am fucked.

All my life savings are gone. (Ok ok not all, let's say Ive lost a great deal) I kept buying since 15k and downwards with the hopes of a bull market comeback.

Bears came in my ass.

Blood on the streets.

Abandon fucking ship.

Run to the hills run for your lives.

Btc was a pump&dump casino scheme without any real world usage after all.

Btc is dead.

R.I.P

Time to buy?

Now I kind of hope that this is all one big manipulation by a whale Institutional Cabal who drives the price down to buy cheap BTC and then drive it up again ;-)

But well ... so much for early retirement.

Hope the next halving in 2020 can save us

Cardano Co-Founder: Wall Street Will Bring ‘Tens of Trillions of Dollars’ to Crypto

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-co-founder-wall-street-will-bring-tens-of-trillions-of-dollars-to-crypto


What do you think guys?

Usual BULLSHIT, the worst day for BTC price recently has been the "institutional" money, with those stupid FUTURES.

Wall street, and the banks, and all the traditional institutions are against the crypto/cypherpunk philosophy, they are trying to destroy it from the inside!!

Why Satoshi committed suicide?

I find it a little odd he asked so many personal questions in his first message.

HI SATOSHI I R PROGRAMMAR TOO
WHAT'S YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, FULL LEGAL NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, AND MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME?

BTW I HELP OUT THE CIA BUT IT'S TOTALLY COOL

Resolved back to two tangles at the moment. Only double-spendable right now.

http://tangle.glumb.de/

age poll ?? whats the reason?

Has anyone read about the supposed satoshi’s handwritten book?
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/satoshi-nakamoto-publish-book-according-mysterious-website/

Probably just the usual bs, still waiting to see a signed message from the known billionaire address... but still, cool story:)

If someone’s curious, these are the first 21 pages published:
http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf

More the point, their opsec is good enough that it doesn’t matter if the computer they use to browse the web is compromised.

There is nothing worse than a warm gin and tonic.

I just read the beginning of it and the guy is an idiot, he's a scammer and he would be correct if he was talking about 99% of the ICOs out there but his argument is analogous to sell your USD because most stocks are scams. Context is everything and he has ZERO context. Unless of course he is connected with a accumulation consort and is playing the FUD game.

Ripple faces third securities fraud lawsuit  

https://cryptoslate.com/ripple-faces-third-securities-fraud-lawsuit/

I guess there's no other way than ordering the BTC rollercoaster for me    

BIS chief to crypto coders: 'Stop Trying to Create Money'  

https://www.coindesk.com/bis-chief-says-stop-trying-to-create-money-in-new-crypto-critique/

Still waiting.

Got my full extractions and reconstructive bone surgery (double sinus lifts and 10 bone grafts) in March.

Next step is 16 titanium implants on November 10. Then after another healing time of at least 12 months, I'll get my actual zirconia teeth sometime next spring.

Some things, just like Bitcoin investments, are worth waiting for to do it right.

I will admit that Roger is a decent story teller; however, he does not really seem to understand the concept of "torture."  

On the other hand, even if he can show that he has various human characteristics and he is empathetic, a lot of this can end up being a distraction (and an appeal to emotion) that takes us away from considering the narcissism that seems to motivate his ongoing involvement in bcash and using bcash as an ongoing attack on bitcoin and deceiving other people (especially dumb people and newbies.. and probably even traps some smarter people into such deceptions in their hopes that bcash will pump relative to bitcoin if they realize the difference) into believing that bcash is some kind of "bitcoin"

It's a complete mystery how we're to get past the Swedes

But multiple bone grafts sounds like hell.  

Lots of wasted time in the clink, too. Not that I'd know anything about that. 

but not haha funny.

The Bitcoin Quiz:

https://hodlhodl.com/quiz_questions

Dammit 29/30.  I object to the wording of the change question !

What is a Bitcoin address?
A unique identifier of a Bitcoin user in the system

As they say, if you're not a liberal at 20, you've got no heart.
If you're not a conservative at 30, you've got no brain.

https://twitter.com/bigrekts

I’m pretty sure the average 75 year old redneck Trump supporter ain’t got no brain but ok.

However the inability of the left to champion the cause of the working class is really disappointing.  How did the right become the champion of the rural working classes. Something went badly wrong there. 

I am sufficiently self - aware to appreciate that the preceding two paragraphs do not sit well together and may provide some insight into the current predicament. 


Further, full credit to the Koch brothers for getting rural working classes to hate people who want to give them free health care, free education and workers rights.  That was truly masterful.  You have to appreciate the audacity and execution.

OT : Holy mother of the gods this is bad.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XopSDJq6w8E

Were Chinese 'ghost' cities ever meant to have even been used?? Or just a place for excess capital spending and malinvestment to go (i.e., built just for show)? This looks like the mother of all ponzi real estate investment schemes.

I'm not a huge expert.

I know it's a custom casting smallblock bored out to about 450CI.

It ran 10.37 last season naturally aspirated.  The blower is new and untested under load.  He expects to run into compliance issues with tech when he starts running in the 9s.

69, all steel, all glass.  Sexy fucking ride
.

A couple of decades ago, I used to have a '68 Chevy 3/4 ton truck with 70k miles. Rust-free, straight and solid. It had a crappy stock 307 V8. That was a bad engine for Chevrolet, it burnt a quart of oil in 500 miles!

I replaced it with a fresh '67 327 with 2.02 intake valves. Solid lifters, doublehump heads, Carter 4bbl, and dome pistons. Aluminum Edelbrock Torker II intake. I had to have the starter rebuilt with more windings for the high compression. It was licensed, and had open headers, it was hot shit on the farm. At the time.

It was geared too low to go fast, but it got there very, very quickly. It had the snap/crackle/pop/rumpity rump idle. The other farmers thought I was weird. Some of the young ones saluted me, for hearing it start a 1/4 mile away, on a cold winter morning.

This was a daily driver for 11 years, not just a weekend fun thing.

i had a 74 vega notchback.
burnt more oil than petrol.
sounded and ran like a flatulent tin can.
then i crashed it.
probably for the better.

motorhead I'm not...

Yes.  At the time of Roger's lock-up for the "fireworks", he was 22 years old and an unknown, but just from his description, he did not seem to experience any kind of real torture, and overall he may have received a bit on the kit glove treatment side.  

If Roger were locked up now, he could have some bad experiences based on his exponentially increased notoriety - but since he is rich, too, currently, rich people do NOT tend to get tortured when they go to jail, unless there are really extreme and revolutionary things going on in the society.  By the way, I would not wish torture on anyone, even if they have some despicable personality traits, but there are concepts of fairness/justice that assert that letting the punishment fit the crime would be the right thing to do in figuring out punishment(s).

The funny thing there is a classic cars are often tax free in terms of an asset appreciation or capital gains tax.   Im not sure about fine art and other things, there might be a few assets which are actually quite clever to hold for their long term value or at least ability to hold value over time.    If you happen to also love the car or whatever asset then its a bonus.   This is easily arguable in terms of diversification, so long as you believe the price is not inflated wrongly for some reason its personal judgement on that one....

I was merely spouting out generic principles, regarding striving to have the punishment fit the crime, and certainly criminal prosecution and conviction is a public good with public input and guidelines.  Some jurisdictions have strict guidelines and other jurisdictions allow for a lot of judicial discretion (as long as such discretion fits into social norms and expectations).  Of course, as long as sentencing judges are respected by the community, they would have more discretion to fit sentences.

So, at this point, Roger has not been convicted of anything, but if he were convicted of fraud or misrepresentation or caught with some other form of insider trading (stealing money from investors), then those kinds of crimes would be assessed for punishment.. so yeah, we are really talking hypothetical, when he has not even been charged with anything, so far as far as I know... and a lot of the character faults that I have been pointing out might be moral and ethical rather than something that could result in criminal prosecution/conviction (which may be on another level, if it were provable).. 

On the other hand, another reference that I made was a kind of informal justice (or maybe even considering a kind of vigilante justice) that might come in a prison setting, and sometimes guards and prisoners could end up metting out kinds of punishments that might not even be just or fit into criminal categories.

Annoyed I missed the bcash post-meetup soirée. The food looks pretty foul I must admit but I guess that's all they can afford.



Anyway the company looks delightful. Maybe next time.

adapted from @cachiestboi

How did you figure that out? Even if we follow this line, it still very well may hit $20k and above.

Don't you see there are "anomalies" every once in a while here and there?

There are many speculative charts and modellings on the price of btc. My favorite one is this;

https://mobile.twitter.com/tuurdemeester/status/545993119599460353?lang=en

See? This one is also logarithmic as the other one above.

I have that game, but haven't played it yet.

Well, ofcourse I'm wishing it to dip to 3xxx levels to get some cheap coins, but I'll buy some more anyways whatever the price. And I'm too scared to sell anything in this market, just buying.

{removed} personal attacks}
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-11/cme-exchange-reports-widespread-technical-problem

it appears that the CME is experiencing major issues, in some reported cases not accepting buy orders.

https://defdist.org/

don't do this

Intriguingly, you once said you prefer an essay to a video, or similar, but it seems you are not entirely impervious to the 'graphic revolution'. Nor am I. But it has lead us to a time where we just point and say, "Look there are Trump supporters in the UK, so life is fair and equal" and "look at these silly mugs on the tv begging for their sovereignty. One of them even gets to go free, so life is marvelous". Just as in the videos called 'Hunger Games' or 'Black Mirror'. This 'pointing' gets us nowhere.

Meanwhile the universities, funded by whichever local scamola or chumpatron, are not teaching anything of any value to the students themselves. Anything that might combat the visual fog of today's virtual slave empire.

Here, a person, her gender and nationality irrelevant, but her 'education' 'imperial', is 'bright' enough to go hiking in Austria because it's the done thing, but has no skills to cope with the real world smacking her in the face: https://www.dw.com/en/american-tourist-takes-unexploded-wwii-munition-to-vienna-airport/a-44611194

Here I've made 3 or 4 assumptions, but they stem from how I see the world, and I beg you to start looking at it more critically too.

Of course, you would come back to this thread to bring up some stupid-ass cock-a-mie off-topic alt-coin pumping theory that makes little to no sense, except for yourself to attempt to suggest that the tail is wagging the dog rather than the other way around.  go figure?   

By the way, how is the sale of all your BTC in the $200s going and subsequent attempt to short (and pump your short) at $500?   

Were you smart enough to get back in at some point prior to $19k?

BJA has a fairly interesting history, for a seeming bitcoin OG that has also been talking his book, and really trying to get others to follow him in his selling and/or shorting.  He had admitted it several times, too, but he also admitted a few times when he had taken pretty strong positions and got rekt pretty bad, too... which is sad - but utlmately stupid since he was trying to act like he was the smartest person in the room when he was taking some of those positions.

He also has a pretty famous quote in the "new gentlemen elite thread" in 2011, where he said he was going to ride this pig (referring to bitcoin) wherever it takes him - but then again, he soon did not even follow his own supposed bullish statement.

So, it does seem that he is the same account, but you really cannot tell for sure if someone bought out the account, either.

I got in because I loved the economics of Bitcoin. I'm an econogeek, not a technogeek. I never suspected there would be a transaction capacity issue. Then I came to the conclusion that it was a governance issue and the blocksize thing was just a symptom.  My rekt trading positions as it turned out didn't matter too much because Bitfinex stole 1/3 of my account anyway when they got "hacked". I actually lucked out because it took so long to recover my private keys from an obsolete wallet.dat file that the price blew sky high. Of course i still sold too much too early, but I had forgotten about the coins in about a half dozen exchanges that i had scattered around to diversify my risk. sold them too eventually.  I actually felt like a chump at the top thinking "what the hell am I going to do with all this depreciating fiat?"

I loved Bitcoin, but it's MySpace. I'm looking for the FaceBook of crypto. Bitcoin was pioneering, but a pioneer is a guy lying face down in a pool of his own blood with arrows in his back.  it's something to learn from.  

Yeah, of course, attacks on bitcoin.  If you are still harping on governance, then you are still harping on attacking bitcoin and failing/refusing to accept bitcoin for what  it is and instead trying to prescribe your own  narrow vision on it.

All you kids wanting to get in on the ground floor of something big.  Its not too late.  You have about a year to build your Bitcoin holdings.  Chasing shitcoin pumps is going to get you nowhere. 

I would prefer to frame the matter in terms of a pump period, rather than in terms of a year, and in the past pump period, from about October 2015 to December 2017 (26 months), we got about a 78x price appreciation.  

Now if our next pump period takes us from $6k to $300k, then that would be a 50x price appreciation for that pump period... It might not be completely expected, but it remains possible.

I personally get a bit offended when folks decide to "invest" in other coins because they believe them to be more easy to pump 50x or some other similar quantity.  Even though I get a bit offended, I understand that is the way of the world, so I accept it as it is, so there are all kinds of goofballs who are going to make killings of money by participating in pump and dumps and other scams, but I am personally not going to spend my time or energies to sink to such lambo chasing ventures.. when there are more honorable ways to invest and to make money, and I can already by my "lambo equivalent" with my already gotten bitcoin profits, if I were to want to buy such.. and I believe that my investment in bitcoin continues to be sound and a good investment - even though I am also prepared to transfer (or diversify) my investment into some other coin or project, if such a thing were to come about.  Currently, I do not see any such projects, and in my view, since we were also talking about dash (in regards to BJA's latest pump attempts), dash is also not that thing (I recognize that you seem to agree about that, but you might be more inclined towards getting involved in some other shit coins, no?).  

spooky

You gotta be pretty confident to bet your dick, or just be an attention whore.

The fact of the matter is that you should not be betting your dick, unless it just does not work anyhow.. but it seems to be amongst the most valuable of assets.... don't they say that one of the most important things that you can have is your health, which is kind of a factor of time and years to live, and gosh, I would think that you would want to have your dick for such time, if you have time that is available, then it should be quality time..  which in sum, means using your dick to the extent feasible.  Perhaps, I am too sentimental?

We do hear about some guys who agree to some kind of treatment (such as prostate cancer) or other kinds of drug treatments that take away libido, but then we have other guys who take viagra to off-set those other drugs.  It is difficult to proclaim to know the answers for other people, and I do understand diminishing hormones that comes with age too, and surely some guys might not be wanting to use their dicks no more...

Anyhow, my point is perhaps moderation, and don't be betting your dick, because none of us know.

By the way, I don't need $300k to be happy, and I probably could be happy with $6k.. or even $2k, yet I have a decent amount of confidence that bitcoin is going to continue to appreciate in terms of price, so we have a certain great investment and icing on the cake for any price appreciation that comes from here.... Gosh, anything approaching $300k, and I might not know what to do with that much wealth.  hahahahahahaha.. but I would probably figure out something.. perhaps helicopter lessons, though I might prefer a chauffer (private pilot) rather than to end up killing myself because I don't know how to fly my (currently hypothetical) helicopter properly.

...
 Are you willing to bet your dick on that?

Fucking hell. The website that I read, I really did it was highlighted purple in google search, https://www.wikihow.com/Use-Than-and-Then didn't have any examples like  "If *, then *".

But here it is here. http://grammarist.com/usage/than-then/ "If this is the case, then it exists alongside a surprisingly resilient sense of class belonging."

You caught me. Yonton is my other account. He and I are one and the same.

Fucking grammar, how is this shit just so easy for everyone else? How do you all just know this sort of thing like it's so obvious and easy?

There are dozens of us. That barrel-shaped plonk-swigging flimflam-spreading double bluff-boasting epitome of a shitcoin.

Thanks Eddie.  I need to acknowledge Bones, Infofront and JJG for pushing me through the 500 merit barrier.

In other news the Chinese police have cracked a $1 billion World Cup crypto gambling ring.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17569006/world-cup-gambling-ring-china-police-cryptocurrency

...
Satoshi miners
...

Somehow all of the rest of us manage to avoid copying and pasting our same long winded arguments multiple times... How do we ever survive it... Correct me if I am wrong but that is what got him banned right?

It was a -vich hunt all along.

lol

nobody is going to stop mining

fool me once...shame on...shame on you...fool me, can't get fooled again

"The price of bitcoin surged Monday after a report said that BlackRock has set up a working group to explore ways of taking advantage of the cryptocurrency market.....The world’s most valuable virtual currency by market value jumped more than 4 percent."

Someone needs to tell CNBC that 4% is not a surge in bitcoinland, but a common daily fluctuation.

You basically said Schnorr signatures would do nothing to alleviate the scaling issue. That would qualify as an opinion.

P.S.: Here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg22571868#msg22571868

25-30% efficiency improvement from Schnorr is not 'nothing', but also not earth shaking.

Yes whenever you use a wallet you may have multi-inputs and multiple signatures, you just don’t necessarily realize it. 

Besides, Schnorr is just a stepping stone to coinjoin. 

Here's a good repost re CoinJoin
http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/building-on-bitcoin/2018/coinjoinxt/


Nothing on Schnorr tho

Then he suggested just using Schnorr multi-signature instead of the BLS signatures. The idea is that if you have inputs with pubkeys P and P2  you can combine them and to form a P+P2 pubkey and sign with that to prove authorization with both keys.  When this had previously been discussed the fact that someone malicious could set their P2 to P3-P and then sign the aggregate with just P3 seemed to kill it.

But actually a few months ago Pieter Wuille solved this as a side effect of his key tree multi-signature work,  He suggested instead that to combine P and P2, you use P*H(P) + P2*H(P2); this doesn't inhibit signing, but it makes it impossible to create a pubkey as a linear combination of other pre-existing pubkeys. Pieter has an implementation of this as part of the Libsecp256k1 multi-signature work: https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1/pull/322

  I think we ate at the same restaurant today!

Yes that pamphlet was from the John Birch society which was alt-right before it was cool to be alt-right.

So it’s the conservatives fucking up yet again.

Holy shit man, are you serious? USA and Russia are the 2 biggest nuclear powers in the world, if you don't want peace and nice relations between them you are fucking twisted. "Peace means surrender" wow, just wow.

USA intelligence is the thing you distrust the most of anything. Weapons of Mass destruction, bay of pigs, drug running, overthrowing of democratically elected governments, hunter of whistleblowers, and many more insanely horrible acts against world peace. But as soon as Trump indicates they may be wrong or not 100% honest, Trump is the bad guy. Blows my mind.

There's a BBC documentary called the "century of the self" I suggest you watch it in full.

Edit: You need to drop this right vs left conservative vs progressive bullshit. It will prevent you from seeing what is right and wrong.

The only kind of peace Americans can imagine is the one where the rest of the world 'bends the knee'

Because anything less would be a disgraceful outrage.

Murica first!

That shit is the worst. And just imagine having silver and gold instead of cash. They'll confiscate it for sure.

I used to be very confused about Donald Trump until I realized he is the America most Americans actually want. Democracy is odd.

I don't think John Oliver is coming back to UK... nice HBO salary far outweighs the negatives.

Back behind the line, hippie.

Alts getting rekt. This will hopefully teach them. 

Good news! The wire transfer I sent at the end of May finally arrived to the recipient today after sooo many emails and an in person visit to my bank.
Due to this kerfuffle, I decided to sign up with an online payment processor recommended by my credit union (paylinebyice) only to find out after funding the account that they wont transfer to bitcoin related accounts.    
While I was at the bank dealing with the stuck transfer I also made a new transfer to bitstamp at the same time.  Sitting with the manager, the irony was strong and I asked him if there was any crypto talk on the inside circles of the bank.  He simply said that they see it coming on the horizon but can't see how or when it will arrive.

Not that anyone cares but that's what I got this fine Thursday.
Go BTC

7400-7700-7300 in seconds! Some pissed bear scared to death from another short squeeze like the other day   How does it feel to bet against Bitcoin on Bitmex bears? The pain is real, isn't it? Enjoy your pathetic red candle while it lasts  

And that earns you an ignore.

Common join the threat on This link and fill in a date for the game winnen earns .125 btc
IT probably the last one till years end ....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4710399.0

Also @kurious you got iT wrong..... change youre price .....

 Are you referring to Tera2?  I read somewhere their account was hacked and they may be masquerading now as Tera3.  I'd like to say "don't quote me on that" but it would be moot.

edit: why can't I remember the important stuff?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4702124  <- Tera3's first post

Let’s pretend for a moment that’s true. How bad does your opsec have to be if you can’t hold onto a forum user name?

Tera2 posted less than two weeks ago.  

Edit:  I made my post only a few seconds after Elwar without seeing it, so apologies because my post comes across as insensitive in that context.

Please share the url so that we can stay away from it. Edit: Sorry I read it this forum url.

Any way to block that website from loading.

Small killing spree spotted. Looks like we're heading upwards.

https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt

Hahaha,   Reminds me of this very wise man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbKYcBdVyk

This was my guess on July 11, as you can see.  There was only 1 another at that time. Now there are 15. It is easier to guess today, right  

Maria Butina had a laptop which was seized by the FBI. On the laptop is her FSB (Russian secret service) email address and orders from her FSB boss.

She had been sleeping with Republican officials, mostly aged over 60.  In the indictment she promised an unnamed American official sex for being appointed to a job.  

Maria was born a peasant in Siberia.  She lived in a modest rented house in the US and rented a U-Haul to move her belongings. She also paid $30 million dollars to the NRA. That $30 million dollars was then donated by the NRA to the Trump campaign.

When Maria was arrested, on the same day, the Treasury Department announced that the NRA would not longer be required to reveal its donors.  This was 4 days ago.

Now the Russian Foreign Ministry is starting a social media campaign to free Maria.  The NRA has stayed silent but it cannot for long. They need a coordinated action to make this look like a deep state conspiracy. Needless to say, it looks bad that the Trump campaign was directly funded by the Russian secret service.

I predict soon NRA supporters and gay frogs guy and others will be saying that the FBI is trying to start World War 3 with Russia and that the FBI has gone rogue by arresting Maria.  Let us wait and see.

The Russian Foreign Ministry has already said that her arrest is an attempt to undermine the Trump / Putin summit.  Russian propaganda tweet below:  



Until then here is another nice photo of Maria, the honey pot Russian spy.

I have not much to send but here 2merit .... collect Some there is still a week or So to put in a price before iT finishes ..... So maybe somebody else doesn’t mind and sending a merit or make a Nice or fun BTC post.....

I don’t know if i win sometimes
I know i won the age poll......

Oh calm your tits, it's just statistics. Children of single mothers generally do worse than if they had both their parents. It's the single biggest risk factor in whether or not they become criminals, for one thing. Which is kind of important given the state of the states at the moment.

Funny thing, in tribal societies they have both left wing and right wing politics working together.

Hunters and warriors go out and kill stuff (compete at being the best at whatever they do (capitalism)) and then they come back to the tribe where everything is shared among all members according to their need (socialism/communism).

Parts of the same bird in deed. What if we could model that on a national scale?

bfxdata is down. Are there another site with short vs long info from bitfinex?

The RAID controller of the server corrupted the data

I sent a transaction today that was just a donation so I set the fee to 2 sat/b and it went through the next block.

3 cents.

For once I'd like to hear someone admit it was the cocaine talking.

going to moon or usual pump and dump folks?

None of the major alts have ever endured a full crypto winter.  Even ETH launched at the bottom of the crypto winter and was straight uphill from there. Undoubtedly this has been a learning experience for the Masters of the Altiverse.  

Gentlemen, how confident (or not) are you that the bottom is in?

Not enough money to pump bitcoin and the alts. This is still a really weak rally on terrible volume, hence alts sell for BTC.

 This could be an opportunity for a seasteading Bitcoinist.  Set up shop in an o-zone (numa numa) to build components for the steads.  Dodge some tax money, employ a few people who need it and help to build your new community in the equatorial zone.  Win win win.

In what way is Hairy's statement patently false?

Sure if you mean the old world alts of pre-2014 back *before* the current nouveau crop like ETH, XRP, DASH, XMR, etc., all the ICO garbage... then yeah, they had a pretty hard bear market. I remember LTC dropping from $48 all the way down to $1.20.

But the nouveau shitcoin crowd has yet to see a significant crash. And trust me it's thin all the way down. Just look how that one whale trader on Coinbase was able to crash ETH all the way down to $0.10. And that was just like ONE guy (or one small colluding group).

Well last July 2017, they got seized by the US Govt (they were operating as BTC-e), some of their bank accounts were seized and the websites, but I believe that they were able to keep a large majority of the crypto, based on their own self reporting.  About a month and a half later, they reopened as WEX and did a Bitfinex style socializing of the loss (about 40%-ish), and they issued tokens that they said would be reimbursed.

In the ensuing year, they have not been able to regenerate their previous trade volume and it appears that a lot of folks are trying to withdraw their funds, which seems to snowball, including WEX restricting withdrawals which continues to exacerbate the lack of confidence problem and the run on the exchange.  So accordingly confidence has been lost about whether WEX has enough money to cover all deposits, and surely they have been a whole hell-of-a lot less profitable after reopening because they have not been able to return to their former self (trade volume wise).   There is likely some other continued legal wrangling behind the scenes too because they USA Govt does not give up in terms of attempting to prosecute folks that they can find associated with the exchange, and that could be continuing to affect their operations and their expenses.. and may even motivate them to do an exit scam if they cannot pay everyone or to cover their expenses. 

A small dump ,enough to see tera coming back ??

b.
The
Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission  (
CFTC
)  asserted  authority  over  virtual 
currencies like
Bitcoin as commodities under the Commodit
y Exchange Act in 2014. It
worked  with  futures  exchanges  regarding  the  launch  of  Bitcoin  futures  referencing 
Bitcoin  spot  markets,  and  following  the  launch  of  the  futures  contracts  the  CFTC 
published documents stating “the CFTC not only has clear legal aut
hority, but now also
will   have   the   means   to   police   certain   underlying   spot   markets   for   fraud   and   
manipulation”  through  “heightened  review”  collaboration  with  exchanges
,  including
exchanges  “providing  the  CFTC  surveillance
  team  with  trade  settlement  data  upon 
request”  and  exchanges  entering  “information
-sharing  agreements  with  spot  market 
platforms to allow access to trade and trader data” and monitoring the spot markets data
for “anomalies and disproportionate moves” relati
ve to the futures markets.
12
 In another
announcement,  the  CFTC  stated  its  expectation  that  “the  futures  exchanges,  through 
information sharing agreements, will be monitoring the trading activity on the relevant
cash  platforms  for  potential  impacts  on  the  fu
tures  contracts’  price  discovery  process, 
including potential market manipulation and market dislocations.”
13
c.
In  addition,  Gemini,
the  digital  currency  exchange  whose  Bitcoin  auction  is  used  to 
determine the settlement price of the Bitcoin XBT futures contracts that trade on Cboe’s
CFE  Exchange,  announced  on  April  25,  2018  that  it  would  use  Nasdaq’s  SMARTS 
Market  Surveillance  system  to  “monitor  [its]  marketplace”
  and  “become  a
marketleader  in  custom  surveillance  rule  creation  and  alerting  for  the  crypto
-asset  market”  in 
order to build “a rules
-based marketplace.”
14
d.
Some  sort  of  m
arket  surveillance  is  generally  a  prerequisite  to
  identifying  potential 
market manipulation
, as well as creating incentives to discourage market manipulation
.
The  emergence  of  institutionalized  market  surveillance  on  both  futures
and
spot
markets
  in
Bitcoin
  products
  is  thus  a  positive
  sign  for  the  long
-term  future  of 
Bitcoin
markets
.
e.
As  a  result  of  reinvigorated  harmonization  efforts,  t
he  SEC
,   in  coordination  with
  the
CFTC,
self
-regulatory  organizations  (SROs),  Bitcoin  futures  excha
nges,  and  Bitcoin 
spot   market   platforms
,   can   gather   the   market
   surveillance
data   to   support
   an
independent  analysis  of  trade  and  settlement  patterns
.   This  analysis  could  be  used
to
determine  the  extent,  if  any,  to  which  potentially  manipulative  trading  practices  occur 
on  Bitcoin  spot  and  futures  markets,  and  compare  that  analysi
s  to  an  analysis  of 
longstanding markets under the SEC or CFTC’s jurisdiction. 

more: https://rb.ru/story/solonin-lecture/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ex-programmer-of-russian-payments-firm-qiwi-used-company-equipment-to-mine-500k-bitcoins-ceo-claims
the 500k coins are now 'lost'

After publishing the article, Meduza added an update to clarify that the former Qiwi programmer could not take advantage of the 500,000 mined bitcoins, as they were “lost” at some point.

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/transparency-policy-shipping-mining-practices/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/mining-giant-bitmain-offers-new-policy-boost-its-transparency/
will help

Bitmain says it will not tolerate “secret mining,” a practice...

Does anyone know the exact relationship between alt coins and bitcoin, except that bitcoin is the dog and altcoins are the tail?  At the same time, alt coins can lead a rally or they can trail a rally or they might not come along because there is more froth in them, so I do not deny any relationship between alts and bitcoin, but I doubt that the mere fact that they are not coming along would preclude bitcoin from rallying and continuing to rally.

For other reasons, including the fact that we seem to be in a consolidation zone that might not be easy to break out of, I do agree with any assertion that BTC might not go directly up from here and break above $8,600, for example... so maybe now, our consolidation zone has moved to a range of $7,000 to $8,600, so accordingly, there would not be any reason to write home (or to get excited) about any movement within such current consolidation range.

Even if bcash is better, look at IPv4 and IPv6. IPv6 is objectively the better standard. It has enough IP addresses that you could have one for every electronic device in your home.

IPv6 has been around since the late 90s. And yet we still use IPv4. Why? Everything has been built on IPv4. It's established. Getting everyone on the Internet to migrate to IPv6 just never happened. Could it? Should it? Maybe. But it didn't.

With limited IP addresses the Internet stopped working right? No. They just adapted and used various layers to represent the various devices you use every day. You may have one router in your home which then assigns a local IP to your computers and phones. Most people have dynamic IP addresses so that when someone's no longer using an IP address it doesn't just sit there, it can be used by someone else. The Internet adapted. The end of the world did not happen as the IPv6 advocates proclaimed would happen once we ran out of IP addresses.

So work with the current Bitcoin protocol and do what you can to make that work because that's what we've got.

IPv6 is used for some LANs and other things within businesses. Maybe bcash can go that route. Who knows.

How the hell is Zuckerberg able to dump his shares outside the trading window ?!

...

The fact that the supposed solution is broken does not make the sales pitch.

Zuck might have called SEC to do it today just to lift his spirits 
Sidenote: twins cannot get a f-g brake.

https://twitter.com/HesterPeirce/status/1022601549309198337
Trump's pick.

IV. Conclusion

By precluding approval of cryptocurrency-based ETPs for the foreseeable future, the Commission is engaging in merit regulation. Bitcoin is a new phenomenon, and its long-term viability is uncertain. It may succeed; it may fail. The Commission, however, is not well positioned to assess the likelihood of either outcome, for bitcoin or any other asset. Many investors have expressed an interest in gaining exposure to bitcoin, and a subset of these investors would prefer to gain exposure without owning bitcoin directly. An ETP based on bitcoin would offer investors indirect exposure to bitcoin through a product that trades on a regulated securities market and in a manner that eliminates some of the frictions and worries of buying and holding bitcoin directly. If we were to approve the ETP at issue here, investors could choose whether to buy it or avoid it. The Commission’s action today deprives investors of this choice. I reject the role of gatekeeper of innovation—a role very different from (and, indeed, inconsistent with) our mission of protecting investors, fostering capital formation, and facilitating fair, orderly, and efficient markets. Accordingly, I dissent.

Hester M. Peirce, Commissioner

Strange. I have slightly more... So mine have grown.

How can this be?

Winkelvoss ETF got declined, but that was never really what caused the speculation for a bull run. So this news coming out and resulting in a dip can be seen as a final buying opportunity. It is the VanEcks and SolidX ETF that really matters. I think a lot of people have heard about the speculation of a "BTC ETF" coming but they are being confused by the Winkelvoss twins ETF and end up selling today.

VanEck and Solid X have tried before but failed, but now they collaborating together to get it approved. Perhaps this time it will succeed.

https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-etfs-may-coming-soon-2-prominent-firms-collaborate/

Even CBOE seems to have joined them:
https://bitcoinist.com/cboe-bitcoin-etf-holy-grail-sec/

Again pure speculation #dyor

I want one!

Please 

I haven't listened to The Motley Fool since they recommended I buy and hold Sun Microsystems.

https://medium.com/@nic__carter/visions-of-bitcoin-4b7b7cbcd24c
How major Bitcoin narratives changed over time

Coming soon will be bitcoin as capital flight mechanism.

I agree completely. I mean look at computers, the internet, and automobiles. They're so complex that they'll never take off.

That's why we're still using the abacus, 2 tin cans on a string, and horses with carriages. KISS is king.

BREAKING NEWS - NEWS - NEWS - NEWS - NEWS

We removed Bitcore BTX because it SUCKS.


...

Bcash lol teetering on the precipice.  Currently 0.1004 BTC

your iq has become negative... it's called trust and it's way way way more powerful than anytrustless system...

fluidjax, have you been born that stupid or something happened or you are paid to be? please don't feel insulted, I wouldn't cry if you call me too big to enter your sport car , it's here you are too stupid... it's just who you are.

What is going on with these HitBTC books? They are as deep as Bitfinex now. Is all this legit?

-if you sell, it'll be the bottom.
-if you buy, it'll be the top.

That's the way it usually goes.

I guess hodl until margin call or no balls  

At least some of their algorithms don't seem entertaining enough for a handful of Wall Observers.

As the price drops to panic inducing low prices I will share a few stories for story time.

I finally got my account unlocked on WEX after supplying details of every transaction I ever had with them, signing statements from the addresses of the receive addresses for all of my withdrawals, screen shots of receiving those transactions and sending the IP address of every time I logged into the system.

My account was locked out but I am not able to withdraw my NMC for 2 weeks (I assume this is how long they believe they will still be around, or they need 2 weeks to pilfer the rest of my NMC). I used to have 21k NMC. I logged in to see 12k NMC and 9k NMCET. From the looks of things WEX was allowing people to withdraw NMC (likely because they could just use mine and that's all they had left). I guess their remedy for opening my account was to create a fake NMC token and distribute that as "just as good as NMC". As people quickly ended up dumping the worthless token lowering the price.

So now I have to wait 2 weeks and watch as the whole thing implodes. But at least I can watch the last of my NMC get pilfered in the meantime.


On another note, I've been trying to buy a car here in French Polynesia since February. Borrowing a friend's car while I try to sell enough BTC to get francs to buy a car. After only getting about $800 worth I was about to buy a scooter when I realized that I have 6000 euro in an old German bank account from a few years ago. That German bank account is on the European SEPA network. Many people here in French Polynesia are from France and have french bank accounts. So I found a guy from France who sold me his Twingo for 6000 euro. I sent the transfer though the online bank transfer and got the car. I got an e-mail today from the guy saying the transfer never went through. So I check the bank and sure enough, transaction was reversed "Please contact the bank for further details". The problem being...how do I call the bank in Germany from French Polynesia? I don't even have a number here, who uses phones? I opted for the data only plan. Furthermore I don't speak German so even if I get through I'll have to ask for someone who speaks English and they'll tell me "oh the person who speaks English will call you back, what's your number?". I re-sent the transaction, I e-mailed the bank and told them to e-mail me back. If it's not resolved in the next day or so I'll just use localbitcoins to sell a BTC to transfer to the guy's bank account.

I just want to get all of my money off of these banks and exchanges and into wallets under my complete control. I should not need to ask permission or jump through so many hoops just to get access to "my money".

Just a lesson to all of those that still have money in these types of locations, get them off while you still can. Not your keys, not your coins. Money in the banks is not your money.

What are you saying, exactly?

Alts including ethereum could continue to go down while bitcoin decouples from them and goes either sideways or up, or alts could pump and leave bitcoin behind.   Furthermore a decline of anything, whether bitcoin, some alt or a combination is far from certain, unless you are saying that there is some specific piece of news that could affect all of it, and a BTC ETF seems to be the most crypto dominant piece of news, at the present, but surely some other piece of news could come upon the crypto scene and push price dynamics too, right?

Oh?  There is a tether print issue? 

This "tether issue" has been put out there a lot, but likely not as BIG of a factor as it is made out to be.

At least one child dead in ICE detention camp from neglect:

https://www.ibtimes.com/child-dead-ice-detention-center-due-negligent-care-immigration-lawyer-2704521

Update: 9 a.m. EDT — The department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement has put out a statement on Twitter saying that the report of a child dying while under their care in a detention center in Dilley, Texas, is not true.

We're more legally intertwined than you could imagine.

He's my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

“Our system would operate on a layer above the blockchain, and we’d keep our own omnibus ledger apart from the blockchain,” explains Loeffler. The Bakkt design isn’t revolutionary. It closely resembles a technology called “the lightning network” that’s already in use. In the lightning network, the same two participants, say an appliance-maker and a parts supplier, engage in multiple Bitcoin transactions. As long as the parties are using a fixed number of Bitcoins to buy, sell from one another, and store for that purpose, the transactions aren’t reported to the blockchain, and zap back and forth within the same ecosystem.

Once Wall Street gets the flywheel whirring, Bitcoin would gain the liquidity to become a bona fide currency. Sprecher and Loeffler predict that multinationals would then adopt Bitcoin for international payments. “The banks control international payments, and the system is very expensive,” notes Sprecher.

”Bitcoin would greatly simplify the movement of global money,” says Sprecher. “It has the potential to become the first worldwide currency.”

 

INFP-T Mediator
Couldn't help but wonder who might be collecting these results.

Definition of a bear market:  stupendously good news doesn’t move the needle.

Mixed news at best:
http://fortune.com/longform/nyse-owner-bitcoin-exchange-startup/
Sprecher’s plan for bringing crypto to the masses runs contrary to what Bitcoin supporters typically champion. The purists favor Bitcoin’s “distributed” architecture, and adamantly oppose putting a big exchange at the center of the both the Bitcoin investment and payments systems. “A regulated exchange with a custodian in the middle contradicts the basic idea of Bitcoin,” says Abhishek Punia, a crypto-currency analyst with venture capital firm Draper Associates. “Bitcoin was designed to be decentralized, without intermediaries taking fees. A regulated exchange may be popular for a short period of time, but it’s not the future. The future will be the original idea of a peer-to-peer network.”
...
“Bitcoin can’t survive as a rogue idea,” he [Sprecher]says. “To evolve, the cryptocurrencies need to run on established infrastructure. They need the trust and rules that have been built into our financial system for many years. They need the kind of trust that the Big Board represents.”

All that, and the coffee is foul.

Meh, more future derivatives? More excuses for whales to short this shit to the ground. 

yeah, uh

you fuckers made over 100 pages in the 2 weeks I was gone...makes for some pretty stiff reading to catch up, 40 or so to go

[zerohedge]Canadians Begin Boycotting US Goods

That´s a bit easy isn't it?

Since bitcoin basically startet at 0 USD you can pick any number and see it as an uptrend.

Pick 5 USD for instance. If we move down to 5 USD tomorrow going from bitcoins inception we probably doubled each year.

Some-time, mid-2022-ish, we should find some ludicrously overpriced private-location, and host a massive WO-party, only accessible by private jet.

EDIT: Helicopter access will also be an acceptable alternative for party-travel.

+1

Train travel is seriously underrated.

meanwhile in 'competition' news
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-06/goldman-is-said-to-consider-custody-offering-for-crypto-funds

Was it slightly overcrowded like this?

I bet that train fucking stinks

I'm not liking the new crop of folks that came in this past year. They don't really know anything about Bitcoin (Satoshi? Is that some sort of seafood?). They just want to see the price go up. Maybe the government can pass a law to make the price go up. That's all that matters.

[img width =100]https://i.imgflip.com/2fhpz3.jpg[/img]

I hope the price crashes to the point that they all sell the bottom and never come back until they're paying for their bread after waiting in the bread line with bitcoins.

 If by 'Tame' he meant 'Manipulate the living shit out of' then maybe...

Funnily enough I just got off the phone to a pal who told me he knows someone who 'lost' 400 grand in Bitcoin and had a nervous breakdown. He couldn't tell me whether he sold or not.

If anyone got in expecting eternal gains then they're a fuckstick. There's lots of rich history of utter ruination to draw on now. If at this point you're taken totally by surprise by a grinding downturn then you clearly haven't read anything beyond the 'buy' on the buy button.

I dunno man, that chain technology has come a long way.

https://twitter.com/nford/status/1027282646739689472
#homophobia #instagay #csw #rose #ruinaet @ProfFaustus #racist #sexist #bch #bitcoincash #crypto
-pic is nsfl
-thread is nsfw

if you don't have a lambo .... than just sell the car that you do have and buy the same 6K bitcoins .... and buy it back with the same BTC dust

 

Alas, at last years BTC prices...I could afford them. (ie...keep them in the lifestyle such 'trophy girlfriends' require.)
 

er NOW...not so much...can't afford the lifestyle of a female sales clerk at J.C. Penny.....


the universe is 'cruel'


alas...

Core dev Cory Fields saved Bcash from collapsing....

https://medium.com/@coryfields/http-coryfields-com-cash-48a99b85aad4

Remember my friend, you don't pay for them to come into your life.

You pay them to leave.

Very important to always remember this.

You don't get it - nobody had EVER publicly traded Bitcoin for anything with a fixed fiat value before this.

Because of that Bitcoin had a literal value of $0.00000000 right up until the point where someone bought a couple of pizzas.

I remember reading an article about the guy who bought the pizzas for 10k BTC and he said not to worry, he had a many coins left - this was when it was worth plenty of dollars if I remember correctly, which I might. He had millions of dollars in crypto when I read that and I won't be surprised if he still has most of it.

Until the first transaction it has no value. No market value anyway.

Throughout the last year I was told how "lucky" I was to have so many bitcoins. They wished they got in so "early" like me, that they were not so "lucky".

Think of all of the people selling right now. Think of all of the people buying right now. The people selling are doing something easy. The people buying are doing something hard.

Holding BTC right now is hard, it's not easy. When you do something that is hard and are rewarded, that is not luck. That is a reward that is earned.

I have earned every bit of what I have, and then some, having been through these tough times several times and not buckled.

I am not lucky. I am strong.

Vitalik Buterin Proposes a Consensus Algorithm That Requires Only 1% to Be Honest

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1027972126593015809?s=20

Does this mean 99% POW is useless?

Apparently reddit does not like my humor (or lack thereof).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/96mnhp/for_those_who_bought_bitcoin_to_get_rich_my/

downvotes galore

Monero has its own problems.  The transaction fees hurt and supply is not fixed.

Tee hee hee

The post below explains that Bitmain is valuing its 1.02 million Bcash lol coins at their acquisitik cost and not at their market value.  That’s because Bitmain paid over twice what those Bcash lol coins are now worth.  Suckers.   No wonder they want to IPO - they are desperate to dump their Bcash lol bags.

The Bitmain IPO is just an attempt to do a massive Over The Counter sale of 1 million Bcash lol coins.  I wonder if any Chinese are dumb enough to fall for it.

PSA: exchanges will start to wobble at under 6k. 1 or 2 self-hacks must be expected at times like that. Get your money off the exchanges as soon as you have done your business. Do not 'invest' more than you can afford to lose.

The Monero and Bitcoin transaction fees are very close to each other. There is not practical difference, exept during the high volume times Bitcoin has had actually higher fees.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactionfees.html
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html

Also, the Transaction fees of Monero will be decresed even more by 80-90% by the bulletproofs.
https://ethereumworldnews.com/monero-bulletproof-protocol/
https://getmonero.org/2017/12/07/Monero-Compatible-Bulletproofs.html

In addition The Tari Project which is a second layer protocol for Monero, will cut the transaction fees to fractions by Lightning Networks. It will also bring Atomic Swaps, Internal assets and much more for Monero.
https://www.tari.com/

The "not fixed" supply is not a problem at all. There is a fixed tail emission for Miners to have an incentive to mine. And because the tail emission is fixed, the emission in relation to existing supply will be decreasing. Also, the tail emission will be very low. 0,6XMR per 2 minutes block. That is only 432XMR per a day.
https://getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/tail-emission.html

Also, the Tari Protocol will be merge Mined with Monero.

How many times do we have to repeat that bitcoin is not a ordinary asset? That bitcoin exchanges are not the stock markets? That bitcoin is not a company, and not a product?

Bitcoin is a currency, and it is extremely disruptive, as it is not controlled by any nation-state.

This nocoiner mentality is depressing. You just see bitcoin as a vehicle, a tool, to make more fiat money.

You dont believe that, in the future, you could buy a house with a single bitcoin. And without the need to sell it in the first place.

Thats why people are not panicking, and you dont see massive panic sell. The guys from Wall Street were probably expecting it when they implemented futures markets for bitcoin, to drive the price down.

The huracan does 0-60 between 2.8 to 3.3 seconds depending on model, not exactly slow.  The performante is a track monster.  

Did you have it Corsa mode or did they put it in soft auto Strada mode?

Any huracan would kill a diablo around a track, Aventador is the current flagship V12 after the murcielago (not taking into account the specials like the centenario)

yeah again misleaded 

i just thought quick and vote 9500-10000 on the poll the pump is in sight BUT no ........ lol

LOOK AT ME ===> I AM THE CEO NOW !!  

roach & mymenace in their absolute element trolling today. Good thing I took precautions a while back.



 

just lucky to be a hodler with not to much of shitcoins in my bag

life still the same ....-playing poker as today (only very short session by to much  headbanging complaining ......)
                              -still going on many dinner evenings
                              - still saturday evening dinner and BOOZe
                              -^with sunday sober up day , and premier league football and greasy food
                              -still weekly going to the movie's as seeing manie serie's and movie's @ home
                              -still every day (6of 7) work out.....
                              -still reading WO threat
                               -........
                               -........
                               -And so on ......................

All of my routines still the same THATS HOW HODLERS ROLL     keep on hodling keeping the patience keep leading the same hodling life

only when possible buying DIPS and getting that personal BTC nr UP  

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7215388/ https://youtu.be/oQGpdgV_ifI
An unsettling and eye-opening Wall Street horror story about Chinese companies, the American stock market, and the opportunistic greed behind the biggest heist you've never heard of.
Lots of parallels to crypto shenanigans

"Handlers?"  Are you on acid?

In other news, John McAfee may be in trouble again!

 https://cointelegraph.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2c088712615955cd2f82aa968&id=12245a19b2&e=7eb2735572
#sadtrombone
I'm buying up this dip! BTCBTCBTCBTCBTC

and it will be unhackable once again

He's bought around 5k coins by now and is single-handedly holding up the price.

Hidden walls cost more in fees.

Confident non-stop accumulation by bot-rape.

Bullish af.

Is everyone on everyone else's ignore list over here? The fuck happened during my brief absence?

I don't think you need worry about that. We are all on roaches crypto-jew list.

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On a more on topic note. Look at this. https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage now that chart is a beautiful sight. We all know the number but look at the picture. It's vertical.

Or is it?