All posts made by RayX12 in Bitcointalk's Wall Observer thread

It's only midnight there and they were awake 3h ago when this happened
Why would they sell more, and why would they sell at all?

Why would you go to a store to buy goods which you can't take out of the store? Makes perfect sense.

Well, maybe the whole point is to make Chinese volume less frenetic.
less volume, less influence.
their volume will probably go from 40% to 10-20% shortly
It is better for us in the west.
Thanks, China!

The PBOC claims its actions are intended to make Bitcoin price less volatile. Ironically every action it's recently taken has created a huge short term dump.

However, who's going to deposit Bitcoins to an exchange that's frozen withdrawals for the next month? If nobody deposits that's less Bitcoins China can dump to suppress the price.

Bullish.

Too many coincidences just before ETF gets approved..
This way manipulators could buy cheap coins and when ETF gets approved sell a x factor..
Bullish..

Quote from: TeeBone on February 10, 2017, 01:17:25 AM

Dead cat bouncers were invented for those who got caught up in the hype Grin

No excuses to not bail out now.

Obviously "TeeBone" just dropped his stake... Tongue

This must be why 100K people sign to buy Bitcoin (Shameless Bitcoin plug) Grin

:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxlgD-_33Io
MAX KEISER TALKS. "BITCOIN IS OUR OPPORTUNITY"

edit: and this!

Bitcoin Adoption gets a boost as the digital currency finds it place in IRA
http://www.maxkeiser.com/2017/02/bitcoin-adoption-gets-a-boost-as-the-digital-currency-finds-it-place-in-ira/

BUY BUY before all the bitcoins are gone! Wink

Quote from: Arcteryx on March 10, 2017, 05:25:25 PM

Quote from: thejaytiesto on March 10, 2017, 05:17:09 PM

Let's play some poker. Is he hiding something? Is it yes or a no? Im sure he knows.

I have a personal theory, I think it will not pass and they have pumped and dumped it to showcase how volatile the market can be (which is a good thing since bitcoin is still tiny, so it means there is an huge upwards potential) but those bureaucrats don't like volatility and will use it as an excuse to not pass it.

Of course, maybe it passes and we are sitting on 3000 by tomorrow... we'll see.

My biggest concern right now is BUcoin and the china Psyops Jihan Wu in order to become the dictator of bitcoin. Hopefully we can get rid of these cunts without killing the entire project in the process.

From this thread:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820822

Kind of funny actually.

Translation: "Stop asking about bitcoins and let's continue with major events to shape the U.S economy."

Cheesy

I suspect the ETF is done under closed doors and has nothing to do with this Evidence Summit??

Quote from: Biro Bob on March 12, 2017, 07:39:00 PM

The ETF rejection was a good thing and I think thats why the price is rising. I was worried that coins would be eaten up by hedge funds and price heavily manipulated up and down on a wildly insane level due to mass manipulation by the largest player in the Bitcoin sector.

Yes ETF rejection was a good thing because it left many people salivating at the mouth to buy Bitcoins!

unbelievable all the doom and gloom here! Shame on you all! Roll Eyes

In the mean time looks like BU is losing nodes.
https://coin.dance/nodes/unlimited

An market cap in historical term is still way up!
https://coin.dance/marketcap/historical

Well here is an interesting and positive comment and I agree with him:

https://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/page-932#post-36337

As an outsider and investor I think this is a hiccup (power struggle) that will be over soon. Obviously some markets, i.e. Bitfinex make a lot of waves to get more business during volatility. In the end BTC is great and it is useful and it will prevail!

Quote from: Elwar on March 19, 2017, 04:05:20 PM

I'm starting to truly believe that about 85% of the blocksize debate spammers here and on reddit are just alt coin shills hoping to spread FUD and get cheap bitcoins.

And shorters too!

Interesting to watch!

"Do miners control consensus? The 5 Consensus Communities | Bitcoin Q&A with Andreas Antonopoulos"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx3nsHGMUE8

Short covering should be near 1050 or 1120. Kiss

BTC is getting ridiculously slow. Now I have 5 transactions unconfirmed, one of them for more than 20 hours.
I have raised the fees to 200 satoshi and still nothing. According to https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ 200 satoshi should confirm pretty fast.
What should be used for fees now?

Quote from: lightfoot on May 08, 2017, 02:45:05 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 02:29:55 PM

Litecoin.

I prefer XRP myself but the question is:
What should be used for fees now?

Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 08, 2017, 03:17:58 PM

Fees don't rise.
They are variable ... you MUST survey the mempool to emit at low fees, it's all.

Real fees are calculate from :
- number of transactions in your emitter address
- age of your previous transactions in the emitter address
- mempool staturation

https://www.statoshi.info/dashboard/db/memory-pool
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin

Interesting but neither link provides any idea of what sort of fees I should aiming. I have adjusted my wallet to pay 0.0002 per KB and nothing.. In a few hours I will try 0.0003..

Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 08, 2017, 03:58:05 PM

THIS is not a thread for the fees over the Bitcoin network.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1902080.msg18896524#msg18896524

You are right, BUT that thread is locked!

Quote from: bitcoinvest on May 08, 2017, 06:15:48 PM

i read now the last replies regarding the fees and how long you wait etc etc...
i maybe live in another world because the maximum i wait when deposit to exchange or send back etc is never more than 1 hour about....
and i never have problem to pay some small amount...
the question is .. where do we go from now regarding the price??

With the current fee fiasco I suspect we are going down.

Quote from: JimboToronto on May 08, 2017, 06:53:04 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 06:45:55 PM

Withe the current fee fiasco I suspect we are going down.

Current? The "fee fiasco" is many months old. Meanwhile the price of Bitcoin keeps rising.

I see no reason for it to stop now.

I never had problems in the past until the last two days. Fees have shut up through the roof!
It looks like my wallet generates transactions at an average of 600 bytes x 0.0000022 btc/byte (https://bitcoinfees.21.co/) = 0.0013 btc * 1580 = $2 per transaction wtf??
A small transaction of 0.25 BTC used 230 bytes x 0.0000022 x 1580 = $0.79 Shocked

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 07:17:20 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 06:45:55 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on May 08, 2017, 06:15:48 PM

With the current fee fiasco I suspect we are going down.

Which fiasco? I am trading all day long and have several feeds open... Haven't read anything about a "fiasco". Source?

No particular source... I am just an average user that is having huge problems getting the BTC transferred from a wallet to an exchange. That is a fiasco, and from what I have read many other people have the same problem.

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 07:35:37 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 07:28:02 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 07:17:20 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 06:45:55 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on May 08, 2017, 06:15:48 PM

With the current fee fiasco I suspect we are going down.

Which fiasco? I am trading all day long and have several feeds open... Haven't read anything about a "fiasco". Source?

Ok, I thought you were refering to something new.

Also I wouldn't consider it a "fiasco". I mean, are you sure the problem isn't in the exchange end?

Have you checked the transaction in blockchain explorer to see if it is already confirmed but the exchange is not acknowledging it?

Did the transaction include a proper fee? Unless you set it up manually, it should be ok though.

Anyways, yes, Bitcoin needs to solve the scaling problem asap. But that is already "discounted" in current price. Once that get solved expect the price to skyrocket.

All the transactions show in bitcoin.info as Unconfirmed. I have been raising the fees manually because my wallet was sending 0.0001 for all transactions.
In my latest transaction I sent 0.25 with 0.0005 (240 satoshi/byte) but when this gets processed it gets added to another 0.5 BTC and then the fee per byte drops to 96??

see the tx: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/44af690b488daae59c2ca4bd055a6dc29378e11e51853de4e0763e72f8dd3e3e

Quote from: orpington on May 08, 2017, 09:50:48 PM

Quote from: harrymmmm on May 08, 2017, 09:34:17 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 07:57:50 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 07:35:37 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 07:28:02 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 07:17:20 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 06:45:55 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on May 08, 2017, 06:15:48 PM

With the current fee fiasco I suspect we are going down.

Which fiasco? I am trading all day long and have several feeds open... Haven't read anything about a "fiasco". Source?

Ya. This one has a low (96 sat/B) fee, and 3 inputs so it might be unexpectedly delayed. The following one with the right fee (~220 Sat/B) will not confirm because it tries to spend the unconfirmed output from the delayed one.

edit: just saw that the one you posted has 3 unconfirmed inputs too! You seem to have a basic misunderstanding of how this all works.

edit2: Ahh. Do you have 'spend unconfirmed change' set in your wallet? That, and a bit of impatience, might have caused this chain of unconfirmed transactions (plus the low fees paid earlier).

a different kind of fiasco it seems.

I have contacted the wallet people but no response except that the fees are too low.. I sent the last transaction with max fees and still nothing.
I am not a dev so I dont understand the techno lingo so well.
Right now I have a total of 7 transactions sent in the last 24 hours with increasing fees but none of them have confirmed!

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 10:19:06 PM

At this point you need to stop sending more transactions until the previous ones settle. The problem here is that you have sent a transaction that used coins that you just received but were not confirmed before sending again.

Maybe someone has a better solution for this, but I would just wait and next time don't use unconfirmed coins as inputs for sending.

But. but. but... The coins have been in my wallet for a month at least.
I had an issue in my wallet two months ago when it showed un-confirmed balance.
As per the wallet support people, I emptied my wallet to a new one and then created a new wallet where I sent my coins. That cleared the unconfirmed balance.
But now a month later when I want to send my coins to an exchange I run into this problem.
Maybe it is a wallet problem.. How to fix it? I dont want to lose my 12 BTC!

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 10:39:46 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 10:26:46 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 10:19:06 PM

What software wallet are you using?

Also, if you have 12BTC on a software wallet my advice inmediately changes to: Buy a hardware wallet NOW!

Either Ledger Nano S or Trezor.

And for your current problem, make sure you have copy of the seed words and/or backup the wallet. Wait for transactions to settle as any time you keep sending new transactions using your unconfirmed change you are making the problem worse (no coin loss though, except for the fees).

MultiBit HD v 0.4.1
Yes I have the seed words and will make a backup now.
I was thinking about switching to Electrum wallet.

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 10:46:24 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 10:39:46 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 08, 2017, 10:26:46 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 08, 2017, 10:19:06 PM

MultiBit HD v 0.4.1
Yes I have the seed words and will make a backup now.
I was thinking about switching to Electrum wallet.

FYI,
I have 6 transactions stuck with increasing fees ranging from 27 to 224 satosh/byte since the 7th (three days)
I was sending to Bittrex to buy str and xrp. So the coins crashed while I wait but now recovering so I am frustrated since I missed a good buying opportunity. Of course the bleeding could continue but... nobody knows for sure.

This MultiBid HD is shit and I did not know it due to lack of research. Found many threads with problems and solutions. For now I am going to wait until the transactions cancel or go through. The plan is to try to move my coins to another wallet when this fiasco is over.
The latest problem I discovered with this wallet is that the interface says satoshi/byte on a slider where you can set the fee. That is a lie, it is just satoshi! So when you think you are 200 satoshi the resulting transaction is like at 80 satoshi/byte. I maxed out the fees and gives only 0.0005 btc regardless of the size (bytes) of the transaction! So if you use this wallet be careful your coins could get stuck like mine. Also someone suggested that the wallet is spending unconfirmed transactions of the previous unconfirmed transactions.. Now is this a fucking joke? I have been in BTC for years and nobody ever said that you should do one BTC transaction at the time! WTF! In the end just be careful. I will update this mess when it gets resolved to inform you guys!
Thanks for your help!

In the mean time... the BTC fees continue to climb.

According to this chart the minimum fee is at 280 satoshi/byte..
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

As users like me get fucked by the BTC network.. have 6 transactions stuck for 5 days now and a useless wallet that I am afraid to touch until my transactions get rejected or executed.

Nice to see my (useless) BTC stash go up! ... and now go down!

Quote from: European Central Bank on May 11, 2017, 10:07:10 PM

what wallet are you using? you can't take the private keys elsewhere to another wallet? my transactions have been as fast as usual recently.

Long story.. MultiBit HD 0.4.1 It is a piece of shit! Many problems in this thread just for this crap:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=99.0

I am waiting for the tx to be rejected or executed before I move the private keys to another wallet. I am afraid to touch it now.

Quote from: European Central Bank on May 11, 2017, 10:18:53 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 11, 2017, 10:16:12 PM

Quote from: European Central Bank on May 11, 2017, 10:07:10 PM

what wallet are you using? you can't take the private keys elsewhere to another wallet? my transactions have been as fast as usual recently.

yeah. it's been known to be a piece of shit for a long time. i think it was sold and not much has been done with it since. it should be removed from downloading.

GUYS!!!
Finally all my transactions got transffered thanks to https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
That shit really works.
It took me days of trying to get my txid accepted untill finally today it accepted them and WHALA all confirmed on the next block.
many Kiss

to ViaBTC

Now I can get my wallet transferred out of MultiBit HD!

For those of you who hate Alts and want to crush them.. I found this utterly important:

https://twitter.com/dangermouse117/status/861992606292516864

ps do click on the info graphic and study it a bit.

edit: Also here
http://woobull.com/

Quote from: machasm on May 16, 2017, 08:33:04 PM

Has anyone been taking note of the fees at the moment. Seem quite high.
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

Getting out of hand.

In the end Ransomware and HIGH FEES are helping BTC price ....ha ha ha

Congratulations (just woke up!) guys.,,. this is a major accomplishment.

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on June 15, 2017, 11:38:41 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 15, 2017, 09:51:44 AM

Bitcoin to be banned in USA ... https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1241/text#toc-idea0e9489fc8f46379f95bb56c8bbbda5
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-14/you-wont-believe-stupid-new-law-against-cash-and-bitcoin
... in certain circumstances
extra bullish

Amazing how this bill was issued the 25th of May (super bullish BTC) but zerohedge publishes and adevertises it today (super bearish feelings).

Someone wants our juicy BTC cheap and we should not allow it! Angry

Agreed!

A must watch about Bitcoin manipulation by central banks!

The timing of all of this BTC turmoil is highly suspicious and I agree with this video 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7d1orIEvo

CaRMageddon!

http://www.maxkeiser.com/2017/06/kr1086-keiser-report-carmageddon/

Could this be the beginning of the end?

Bullish for Crypto!

Not even the drums of war are propping up the dollar. Bullish for crypto!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfKydv_XBQ

and.... we are back! Grin

Thanks infofront..

The crashing dollar is holding Bitcoin up...

https://steemit.com/money/@marketreport/chart-the-us-dollar-s-death-spiral-is-just-getting-started-by-gregory-mannarino

Quote from: bitserve on July 19, 2017, 10:44:54 PM

Quote from: bikerleszno on July 19, 2017, 10:21:12 PM

Why F2Pool, Slush Pool, GBMiners, Telco 214,Bitcoin.com, Kano CKPool cant mine with bip91 ? Cheesy

lol if f2pooll and gbminers change their mined we are in in almost 100%

Canoe has just started signaling. The others will come soon. Signaling was not suppossed to start that early. There's plenty of room and activation periods even if the first doesn't reach the threshold.

Everything is going smooth atm.

Swing your vote and get cheap bitcoins. Manipulation makes it difficult to chart the future.

Quote from: bitserve on July 21, 2017, 12:32:38 AM

Predictible profit taken. Let's see how low it goes before resuming the rise.

Not to worry. The inflationary dollar is going down so this will support bitcoin up for a long time.

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 21, 2017, 07:55:36 AM

UPDATE ON ATH ATH ATH ATH GAME LAAAAAAAAAST CALLL LAAAST CHANCE FREE BTC BETS WITHIN 24 H, NO BETS TAKEN ANYMORE AFTER 21/07 23:22 (CET)

30/08/2017
Thank you!

Looks like Rothschild is buying more cheap coins. Shocked

Quote from: YamashitaRen on July 27, 2017, 10:06:38 PM

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on July 27, 2017, 09:51:36 PM

Quote from: YamashitaRen on July 27, 2017, 09:49:35 PM

Byebye train, have a nice ride Cry

Why your not happy? Cool

Had the great idea to stop trading for today after my little short profit cause I was tired etc... Didn't prevent me from looking at the charts and thinking I was missing nice opportunities Roll Eyes

Now bitcoin will play rollercoaster while I'm asleep Cry

Roller coaster not! Rocket yes! Grin

Looks like price of BTC resumes going up!
People want to get a piece of BCC so BTC could move toward ATH.

I moved some BTC to Kraken to get BCC... Just tried trading now and holy fuck... it is slow as shit!
They must be running on an old pentium 1 laptop!!! Angry

Quote from: bitcoinvest on July 31, 2017, 09:58:59 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on July 31, 2017, 09:56:37 PM

I moved some BTC to Kraken to get BCC... Just tried trading now and holy fuck... it is slow as shit!
They must be running on an old pentium 1 laptop!!! Angry

i also wanted to sell all the BCHbut is not listed yet...you see it???

BCC note available yet I was selling some BTC

Quote from: bitcoinvest on July 31, 2017, 10:03:21 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on July 31, 2017, 10:02:08 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on July 31, 2017, 09:58:59 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on July 31, 2017, 09:56:37 PM

I moved some BTC to Kraken to get BCC... Just tried trading now and holy fuck... it is slow as shit!
They must be running on an old pentium 1 laptop!!! Angry

i also wanted to sell all the BCHbut is not listed yet...you see it???

BCC note available yet I was selling some BTC

I think you mean BCH ( http://blog.kraken.com/post/1150/bitcoin-cash-and-a-critical-alert-for-bitcoin-margin-traders/ )

EDIT: kraken works perfect...not slow for me

I dont believe you... it is slow as fuck.

edit: usually it works a little faster but a few minutes ago it was very-slow!

When can you sell BTC and still get credit for BCC??

Strange that I can see kraken charts : https://www.kraken.com/charts#

But I cannot login: Service unavailable..

wtf Kraken

Quote from: xhomerx10 on August 01, 2017, 02:21:28 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on August 01, 2017, 02:17:27 PM

Strange that I can see kraken charts : https://www.kraken.com/charts#

But I cannot login: Service unavailable..

wtf Kraken

......

Somebody must be able to log in to do that. I guess they must also be pretty certain that nobody has any BCH on Kraken yet though because that would have been an easy $1000.

I think once their servers (pentium 1 laptops) slow down then they limit the number of users...

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on August 01, 2017, 02:28:25 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on August 01, 2017, 02:24:53 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on August 01, 2017, 02:21:28 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on August 01, 2017, 02:17:27 PM

Strange that I can see kraken charts : https://www.kraken.com/charts#

But I cannot login: Service unavailable..

wtf Kraken

......

Somebody must be able to log in to do that. I guess they must also be pretty certain that nobody has any BCH on Kraken yet though because that would have been an easy $1000.

I think once their servers (pentium 1 laptops) slow down then they limit the number of users...

kraken server picture leaked :

ha ha ha... Yes! Running on Lotus 1-2-3 server!!!

Quote from: HanvanBitcoin on August 01, 2017, 03:04:17 PM

Kraken back online and able to login. No BCH added yet.

Confirmed... Loptop pentium 1 rebooted and running slowwwwww

Waiting on Kraken to credit my BCC... insider dumping first, pleebs last, that is Krakens motto! F%&! Kraken

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on August 01, 2017, 04:37:13 PM

I also Did get my btcash on my kraken account

Can we sell right now ore wait till tomorow?

As expected we the pleebs got BCC last.. Of course price is shit now..
Wait for BCC to find a block before dumping for BTC.

Quote from: leowonderful on August 01, 2017, 05:07:58 PM

Just contacted Kraken support and they said that they're still distributing the BCH. Better support than I expected from them, the guy responded in less than two minutes Tongue

Prices are absolute shit on Kraken ATM though, I will def be moving them off when I have the chance.

Update: Support site now says it could take several hours for em to get it all out. Guess I'm a HODLer for Cash now.

Very unprofessional to distribute BCC to some people first.. Probably insider dumping first.

The exchanges wallets will remain blocked until the owners decide. This is really a shameless manipulation but par for an unregulated industry.
Watch out when the floodgates open.

Looks like this this rocket is pumping up!

Quote from: Dotto on August 05, 2017, 09:37:17 AM

Jimbo is buying all the bitcoins!!

Ha ha... Agreed using the next door ATM:

Quote from: gembitz on August 05, 2017, 12:12:15 PM

$3333 close~~~ Cool

$5000 is the new target!! Shocked

Ohhh I cant wait for $5k

Congratulations bitcoiners 4K here! Grin

Big sell wall from spofy at finex.

What is wrong with BTC fees and Mempool?

Mempool filling up:
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#24h

Transaction fees skyrocketing again?
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

What are the spammers planning now?

Transaction fees go through the roof.

Honey Badger don't give a shit...

Threats of centralization...

Honey Badger don't give a shit...

Quote from: Last of the V8s on August 14, 2017, 09:37:45 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 14, 2017, 09:30:34 PM

Ring Them Bells. Cool

The Times They Are a-Changin' Grin

Too bad I did not sell my house for BTC when I bough in back a year ago! Cry

I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS

Should I sell my ALTS?? Undecided

Quote from: bitserve on August 15, 2017, 02:19:53 AM

Quote from: deepcolderwallet on August 15, 2017, 02:17:23 AM

Quote from: RayX12 on August 15, 2017, 02:12:32 AM

I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS
I not selling my ALTS

Should I sell my ALTS?? Undecided

Answer is No. This bull race won't keep up forever, and once it cools down alts may valorize. At least this has been the market dynamics so far.

Yup, I won't sell my alts either. At the very least they are a hedge against any Bitcoin issue. Anyway my alts are now like less than 15% of my portfolio.

I have been scaling back from ALTS since TWO months ago but I never thought this would go so far...
I sure hope that the previous market dynamics continue and the ALTS get some love as well.

Quote from: empowering on August 15, 2017, 02:25:00 AM

Quote from: bitserve on August 15, 2017, 02:22:50 AM

Quote from: empowering on August 15, 2017, 02:21:40 AM

Bithumb?

Explain?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Where have they come from with this volume- have I just
missed them somehow?

Also price is over $4400 there

People in South Korea are buying BTC like there is no tomorrow... and it could be true!

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on August 20, 2017, 02:16:59 PM

Quote from: kurious on August 20, 2017, 01:50:46 PM

If (enough) miners switched from BTC to BTH because it was more profitable to mine, it could cause problems for BTC. So yes, it's possible - but the whole market could lose faith

Classic mexican standoff

And now someone must die. Crypto is really the wild west.

Yes, crypto is the wildest of the Wild West. You never know what comes next.. so exiting and so frustrating at times.

Quote from: d_eddie on August 20, 2017, 03:28:12 PM

....
Come on bad guys, come on! PUMP IT to $1200!!! It will be good for you! Tongue

Yea pump it mother f$%& and I will dump it as well.. with much profit! Grin

Quote from: AlexGR on August 20, 2017, 05:44:25 PM

Quote from: bones261 on August 20, 2017, 05:16:38 PM

Quote from: kurious on August 20, 2017, 04:58:30 PM

Quote from: bones261 on August 20, 2017, 04:01:28 PM

Quote from: cellard on August 20, 2017, 03:42:47 PM

This is a short lived pump and dump. BTC is still more profitable to mine considering the higher fees, BitcoinCrash will always have a bigger blocksize, therefore, it will always have lower fees. The profitability due hasrate fluctuation is temporal, miners know that they can't gamble too much trying to profit from this, because if they screw up the real Bitcoin, their whole business would collapse.

The miners are going to blow through these 2016 blocks in a day or two. After that the difficulty is going to skyrocket for BCH. Probably close to the 4x limit. I think it's going to be game over for BCH when that happens.

Any idea how he diff will change at this point % wise? If it's massive, will it put them under profitability again?

If so, I need to dump the rest of my BCH. Been hanging on to half to see what happens....

It could go up 4x or be 400% what it is now. The difficulty would shoot up to 272888550039. In order to be on parity with BTC difficulty, they would need to put the buy support at almost .3 BTC per BCH. The slowdown in hashrate could cause their special difficulty adjustment to kick in, but this takes at least 24 hours of blocks coming in at slower than 1 per 2 hours. The only other reprieve would be the upcoming difficulty adjustment upwards of BTC. If the BCH difficulty only went up 3x or 300% of what it is now, the buy support would need to be at a little over .22BTC for profitability to be on parity with BTC. With the current block emission rate at about 3 blocks per 10 minutes, its likely the next difficulty adjustment will go up by 300% or more, if their current hash rate remains stable.

Keep in mind that profitability calculators do not factor BTC fees into the equation. When you have 1-3 BTC per block, that's a substantial amount that can increase BTC profitability by 8-25%.

In fact, BTC fees are also a mechanism which allow BTC to "recover" in case of hashrate going away. Let's say tomorrow a very hot sha256 coin appears and hashrate goes down a lot. At that point block emission is reduced substantially, but the competition between people wanting to get first priority, in the first mined block, increases a lot also. So the first block mined will include the highest-fee transactions, and this could amount to something like 6-7-8 BTC - or more. If blocks take too long, at that point the block reward may even be doubled or surpassed by the tx fees that want first priority. This remedies profitability despite difficulty remaining the same.

On the other hand, if BTC's blocks were large enough to clear the mempool of any minimum-fee-transaction, even if the blocks took an hour to arrive due to lost hashrate, this built-in incentive wouldn't even be there. In a way, the increased fee pressure, which currently replenishes some of the lost miner income (after the halving), acts as a protective shield. In other words it pays to follow a "glide path" from a full-blown subsidy economy that has near-zero fees, to a full-blown fee economy where subsidy is practically zero, and doing so in steps.

Are there any prediction models about what the fees would look like in the years to come assuming different scaling methods?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160330034A1/en

This is a shocker... who wants to control Bitcoin?? Shocked

I sure hope they fail.

Finex ATH 4540!!!!
Congrats!!!! BTC

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 09, 2017, 07:41:06 PM

it's probably embarrassment

ha ha ha, very creative indeed +1!
BTW, I love both my BTC and my ALTs.
It is like loving two babes at the same time.. Kiss

Quote from: Romanknickl on September 10, 2017, 03:02:59 PM

I agree! BTC is very strong,amazing! The next bull run will be epic
But I just bought a few Btc and invested it in Waves, waves is the a game changer in crypto in my opinion.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/WAVESBTC/6UwhmDiu-Waves-very-LONG-October-10th/

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/WAVESBTC/gd5sSen1-Waves-BTC/

best wishes, your Altcoinanalytics

Sorry to comment about WAVES... but the fucking mods have locked the Waves thread and yesterday I created a second waves thread that was thrashed by the mod.
The waves community is being censored here in BITCOINTALK and not allowed to express their opinion. (Bullish)

I also bought more BTC on the last dips.. The next BTC break out will be memorable but it wont arrive until the 2X drama is over.

Wall street view of Jamie Dimon! Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKqsX3adPhQ

I have been following Gregory Mannarino for over a year. Very smart and always right!

I am buying more BTC tonight when cash arrives... very Bullish.

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on September 14, 2017, 12:13:44 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 14, 2017, 12:10:57 PM

Finally someone with a brain speaking:

Quote from: oda.krell on September 14, 2017, 12:04:02 PM

"Back to $200! Bear market any minute now!" ... "It's just a flesh wound! 10k by the end of the year!"

How about: the market is testing the downside after huge gains were made during the past months. And "continuation or reversal?" will be largely determined by how this test proceeds? (e.g. support will or will not be found at a level which suggests the larger bullish trend remains intact)

My question is, where do you think this support will be found? Is it already found (3600ish), is it 3200-3000 or further down?

imo, under $2k easy

In China... maybe.. the rest of the world is like: China bans Bitcoin?
Dejavu!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been there done that!

More cash arrives in two hours.... got to get me a little more BTC. Nice dump you fuckheads!
Thanks for the shopping spree!

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 14, 2017, 09:49:45 PM

I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly (UTC time) (closest to ATH.....)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This

UPDATE listmaking notice a * is when the person put good enough explanation for other .25 BTC (person with no * only play ATH or have to put little better )

25/9 binaryreign*
28/9 khufuking
29/9 jhayzxenon*
30/9 yermom
05/10 punisher1314*
07/10 player514*
10/10 bikerlezno* LAST WINNER
11/10 ted e. bare
14/10 bitcoinaire*
15/10 ludwigvon*
17/10 shroomskit_disgrace
18/10 dakustaking76
21/10 paashaas
22/10 cmacwiz*
23/10 spaceman_spiff_original*
25/10 soullyG
04/11 lilloboy
05/11 jojo69*
06/11 d_eddie*
07/11 empowering*
09/11 podyx*
10/11 u9y42*
11/11 starving_marvin
13/11 dotto*
14/11 hazukison*
17/11 foxygoxy*
20/11 drbrockcoin*
22/11 rakessh
21/11 icygreen*
23/11 erisdiscordia
25/11 mfort312*
26/11 globbo*
27/11 lfc_bitcoin
29/11 rjclarck2000
30/11 last of the v8s *
05/12 fluidjax
10/12 fragout*
15/12 philivey
24/12 bones261*
26/12 karatma1*
30/12 erre
18/01/2018 raja_mbz*
26/01/2018 kurious*
28/01/2018 steelboy*
20/04/2018 fractal universe*
15/06/2018 samson

9/19 if Available....

Because this is Bitcoin and anything is possible.

WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not done buying... WAIT fuckheads!! You dumped it so hard now you have to wait for me... Grin

Quote from: petahashminer on September 23, 2017, 12:25:04 PM

Absolutely bullish

https://squawker.org/technology/breaking-amazon-will-accept-bitcoin-by-october/

If true.
I want it to be true! Grin

Quote from: Torque on October 13, 2017, 12:31:03 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on October 13, 2017, 06:27:40 AM

Quote from: aesma on October 13, 2017, 06:22:54 AM

How much new money is needed for every 100$ up in price ?

I'm not saying 10K is impossible but so fast, I don't see how.

The only requirement is that nobody is willing to sell for less than previous price plus $100. There is no set formula; simply bids and asks.

Yes, this doesn't feel like a short term trading play to me. Massive long positions are being taken. This feels less like a greed-based trade, and more like a fear-based trade (hedge).

The bigger questions are 1) Why? and 2) Why now?

The banks and currencies getting weaker!

"SITUATION HYPER-CRITICAL: IMF WARNS MAJOR BANKS IN TROUBLE."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70q7v9zqt68

And... by the way! CONGRATULATIONS HODLERS!

Congratulations BTC HODLERS!!!!!!!!!!!
My loved BTC is king now and my LOVED ALTS are SHIT!!!!!
Diversification was the worst thing to do for the past few months.
I would have NEVER thought of selling 100% of my alts but this market has wiped out my ALTs portfolio.

HAIL TO THE KING! BTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelhLppPSxY

Mother of all pumps! I am speechless, happy and sad, rich and poor, euphoric and desperate.

I am diversified! FUCK FUCK FUCK

Quote from: Meuh6879 on November 02, 2017, 10:25:22 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on November 02, 2017, 09:25:47 PM

"Coinbase Adds A Record 100,000 Bitcoin Traders In One Day"

zerohedge...its in your bookmarks

[img]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-02/coinbase-adds-record-100000-bitcoin-traders-one-day

Bitcoin is not a bubble ... Bitcoin, it's people.
With real money and that, it's new for all.

Reach 10k$ before the end of 2017.

How can that be?? I am amazed! 100k users in a day?
IN-FUCKING-SANE!

Quote from: Torque on November 20, 2017, 12:32:56 PM

PSA: This is why friends don't let friends diversify into shitcoins.

If this guy had just left his initial investment into Bitcoin alone, he'd have nearly twice as much value today.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7e66cw/i_turned_36000_into_136000_thanks_bitcoin/

Similar to my situation. Unfortunately I never had such good friends.

But I am happy with my gains on the BTC portion of my shitcoin-diversified portfolio.

GO BITCOIN GO!

Quote from: Paashaas on November 21, 2017, 02:46:26 PM

Another ATH...nice!

ha ha ha.. very nice indeed-- bears are Cry

Quote from: podyx on November 21, 2017, 07:49:28 PM

Now what's going on??

Lambo distributor dumping BTC Grin

Good going bitcoin hodlers! Are we rich yet?
Bitcoin is the sunshine for today!
Happy $9K

Can someone check these numbers?

"The study states that in October alone, Bitcoin mining-related electricity consumption is estimated to have increased by 29.98 percent, and if it keeps increasing at this rate, Bitcoin mining will consume all the world's electricity by Feb. 2020." Shocked

https://www.dailysabah.com/finance/2017/11/27/electricity-used-in-bitcoin-mining-surpasses-power-consumption-of-159-countries

Quote from: rolling on November 27, 2017, 08:48:47 PM

Quote from: Torque on November 27, 2017, 08:34:58 PM

Quote from: Ibian on November 27, 2017, 08:29:27 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on November 27, 2017, 08:23:13 PM

Can someone check these numbers?

"The study states that in October alone, Bitcoin mining-related electricity consumption is estimated to have increased by 29.98 percent, and if it keeps increasing at this rate, Bitcoin mining will consume all the world's electricity by Feb. 2020." Shocked

https://www.dailysabah.com/finance/2017/11/27/electricity-used-in-bitcoin-mining-surpasses-power-consumption-of-159-countries

You don't even need to check anything with sensationalist claims like that. Shit article by a shit author.

Light Pollution in the U.S. alone: 120 terawatt-hours/year

Bitcoin Network: 29.05 terrawatt-hours/year (Confirmation? Some articles cite 11 Twh/yr ?)

CERN Hadron Collider: 1.3 terrawatt-hours/year

Yeah, let's get the global light pollution levels solved first before we start considering Bitcoin energy consumption a problem...

Assuming a network at 10 Exahash/10,000 Petahash/10 Million Terahash/10 Billion GH/s and an average miner efficiency of .3 Watts per GH then I come up with 26.28 terrawatt-hours/year. That is about the efficiency of an Antminer S7 but the majority of miners are probably S9s or equivalent so that seems really high. .2 Watts per GH/s would still be high but closer to reality considering other power costs such as cooling. That would bring us down to 17.52 terrawatt-hours/year.

10,000,000,000 GH/s X .2 Watts/GH/s X 24hours X 365days = 17,520,000,000 KW/h or 17,520,000 MW/h or 17.52 TW/h

It's all based on your assumptions and of course the article didn't say what assumptions it used.

Thanks for the numbers. I found this link indicating that the world consumption in 2015 was 20,757 TWhr and predict around 28,141 TWhr for 2030, assuming a linear growth it would grow at 492 TWhr per year. That would put 2017 consumption at 20,757 + 492 + 492 = 21,747 TWhr for 2017.
https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/figures/world-final-electricity-consumption-by-region-in-the-baseline-scenario-twh

So BTC would have consumed 17/21747 x 100 = 0.12% of the worlds energy.

I have downloaded the hash chart in excel from https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all
and then added a polynomial regression to predict the hash rate in one year and also in two years from today.

According to the chart on nov-24-2017 we are looking at 10445729 TH/s x 1000 = 10445729472 GH/s so according to your calculation that would put us at
10445729472 GH/s * 0.2 x 24 x 365 = 18300918034944 kw/hr or 18.3 TW-hr

The polynomial fit for the chart has a 0.9767 correlation coefficient predicting close to 70 TW-hr in 365 days and then 210 TW-hr in 730 days (2yrs) near the begining of 2020.
The world power consumption by the beginning of 2020 would be 21,747 + 492 +492 = 22,731 KW-hr
So BTC would consume 210/22731 * 100 = 0.92%

With the available data there is no way that the BTC electrical consumption could reach the world power by Feb 2020.

Here is the chart I generated for 365 extrapolation:

Here is the chart I generated for 730 day extrapolation.

Finally the hash rate chart from Blockchain.info

Quote from: Torque on November 28, 2017, 12:56:58 AM

Quote from: sirazimuth on November 28, 2017, 12:11:53 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 27, 2017, 11:55:56 PM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 27, 2017, 11:48:17 PM

We've got a winner. Grin

good lord!!
that stupid prat has issues man...

This is comedy gold. Thanks BobLawblaw you made our day! Grin

YES!!! It is bcash

Quote from: Ivor Biggun on November 28, 2017, 02:33:09 PM

Quote from: Imbatman on November 28, 2017, 02:23:04 PM

What site do we consider to be the official one, as to when 10k hits? Bearstamp?

It's already over $10k on CEX.IO.

When it's over $10k on bearstamp we'll have five figure bitcoins on all the exchanges.

The official https://coinmarketcap.com/
shows BTC at 1009!

Happy 10K HODLERS!!

When Tether dies BTC and the ALTS will moon. Having this fake dollar is only benefiting Bitfinex.

Soon and slowly the wall will come down!!!!

Quote from: lightfoot on November 28, 2017, 11:47:43 PM

Sounds like we're all grumpy about 10k not being breached. It will happen, eventually.

Meantime here is something for the butt people: Note how she is walking away from a bitcoin cash wallet:

Sweet! She is going after my wallet! Grin

I think this is more relevant:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22buy%20bitcoin%22,%22sell%20bitcoin%22

Bitcoin is looking so strong and sexy at these levels. WOW!! Grin

Quote from: Cassius on December 04, 2017, 02:27:17 PM

Quote from: Torque on December 04, 2017, 02:19:02 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on December 04, 2017, 02:08:08 PM

I thought CME was only planning daytime trading for the time being. I might be wrong, though. Honestly, I haven't read the documentation with great care.

I believe you're right. Should be Mon.-Fri., normal U.S. stock trading hours (9:30am-4p EST).

That's right. Never quite made sense to me. Or the circuit breakers. I can't imagine the number of n00b Wall Street traders waking up and finding their contracts have got rekt.

But I'm going to work on that.

Makes me sick to my stomach to how all of this trading money will not actually flow into bitcoin but rather in the pockets of CME manipulators.
Fuck CME and futures contracts.

Nice Bitcoin talk on: "CrossTalk: Bitcoin Fever!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo6RopWuBlU

Are we rich yet?? Grin

The Bad edit: (~~aaa~~ ass) Boom is coming!

This one if for You Jamie Dimon: Shocked

Ohh my god!!! Bubles!!

Wait, wait, need and altcoin breather... Shocked

Are we rich yet?.
Crazy ride here.. My altcoins going to the toilet and my bitcoin mooning.
I am now 60% BTC and 40% and alts and still making good money but I should have been 100% BTC since 6 months ago.

Mixed feelings on this rise WOW!!!! Grin

Man we are getting rich but the fucking MINERS are getting richer.. 210,000 unconfirmed transactions now.
Bitcoin fees are at 410 sat/byte. so avrg transaction of 226 bytes pays 0.00092 B = $15
Mempool is reaching all time high https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#30d

All bullish indicators to $20 K and beyond!! Kiss

Who is buying all the Bitcoin??

Everyone???

Are we rich yet ?

Quote from: Torque on December 08, 2017, 03:52:10 PM

Jim Cramer talking shit again. Says he believes a couple hedge funds have been bidding it up and cornered, and once futures comes online he's expecting a big short pounding.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/08/cramer-bets-against-bitcoin-will-crush-it-once-futures-begin-trading.html

I would like to see these idiots attempt to do a short on BTC.. and get fucked by a big bad ass buyer like Bill Gates.

Quote from: AlexGR on December 10, 2017, 02:23:21 AM

Quote from: fabiorem on December 10, 2017, 01:40:35 AM

and we dont know who have been pumping bitcoin recently. It could be hedge funds who are going to sell contracts in CME, and we dont know if the banksters who are against bitcoin will be their clients or not.

I think this was more or less settled (Koreans) ? Unless bankers and CME shorters would use the KRW markets with 2-4k premiums...

Nobody going to sell futures with 44% margin.. for all practical purposes leverage is non existent. Market cannot be moved with any advantage with futures.

Look like everything is on hold until traders realize that the futures market has no effect on price. Maybe some time later when leveraging is increased from 2.2X to 100X there could be incentive to manipulate the markets. For now I think the accumulation will continue. 25K, 50K soon..

Quote from: bones261 on December 11, 2017, 12:31:33 AM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 11, 2017, 12:27:46 AM

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on December 11, 2017, 12:26:31 AM

Holy shit guys, massive volume on the futures, a full 70 BTC traded so far....

I am sure it will pick up though.

Weee?

This is funny:

weee wee weee

Quote from: smartcomet on December 11, 2017, 12:34:44 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-has-less-environmental-impact-than-fiat-currencies

Quote

The report indicates that the annual consumption of power from Bitcoin mining is 8.27 terawatt-hours per year, and the global production of fiat currencies stands at 11 terawatt-hours per year.
Gold mining burns a staggering 132 terawatt-hours per year.

Worst of all is the ENVIRONMENTAL damage caused by the chemical spills from all mining including gold where mercury is used. Most mining industries have tight standards in developed countries but the pollution left behind trapped in pits and lakes eventually fail and flow into the rivers and aquifers. The damage is appalling! In third world countries even children are exposed to mercury in the processes of gold extraction.

More info here: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/environmental-disaster-gold-industry-180949762/

Quote from: lightfoot on December 11, 2017, 12:56:59 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on December 11, 2017, 12:47:49 PM

Who here hasn't played with mercury as a child?

Yes, we all have casually played with mercury.
Of course this goes beyond casual contact.

WTF is going on with volume on Bitfinex?? Server crashing?

Quote from: fabiorem on December 11, 2017, 01:19:54 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on December 11, 2017, 01:12:33 PM

Yes, we all have casually played with mercury.
Of course this goes beyond casual contact.

Theres also sulphur, arsenic, antinomy...

Buy Bitcoin and sell gold! Grin

BTC history repeating itself over and over and over!!

Are we rich yet?

I have to count my money now! weeeee

Quote from: Wekkel on December 11, 2017, 09:39:14 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 11, 2017, 09:35:44 PM

Bitcoin isn't a stock. You all are missing the big picture. This is mainstream adoption.

Although many have heard of Bitcoin, the last man/woman/gender-neutral is not in. Not by a long shot.

confirmed

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on December 11, 2017, 11:35:18 PM

Quote from: GHCoins45 on December 11, 2017, 10:30:31 PM

I'm wondering (I have no idea where to search for this), the new money that are now in LTC come from BTC, or those are fiat money?

Yes its turning ltc right up to new levels..

ltc will correct now.

Quote from: Heater on December 12, 2017, 01:06:43 AM

Quote from: toknormal on December 06, 2017, 12:53:43 AM

[......]

As predicted, the above infographic was not only stupid, it was totally wrong.

As more millionaires, investment funds, countries, and all rich and poor people in the connected world want a piece of BTC the demand will continue to rise.

If wall street wants to crush it, they may end up crushed themselves by the underling buying support.

Dont sell your BTC HODL it now more than ever. Grin

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 12, 2017, 06:09:16 PM

Oh look another ATH at Stamp.

Ride that wave of money coming to the market!

Quote from: Xian01 on December 12, 2017, 07:14:39 PM

self.sides->orbit;

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/12/what-i-learned-from-owning-bitcoin.html

^^^^^^
DUMB FUCK

Quote from: bitserve on December 13, 2017, 01:13:55 PM

Quote from: javierbaco on December 13, 2017, 01:07:15 PM

javier‏
@f_baco

Weeklychart BTCUSD
Possibly complete sequence of 5 (V) Main waves.
Wave5(secondary) =3.618% Wave 1
Breaking up the area of 18,000-18100 would stop being able to be measured in projections by Elliot Waves.
The trend should change and address 61.8% of the entire historical movement

So you are calling $18.000 as top of the current trend? Or what happens if $18000 is breaches?

You just stretch the V wave up and up and up to where it is needed.. $50K tops.

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Hitbtc off line for hours!

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 14, 2017, 06:58:51 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on December 14, 2017, 06:55:54 PM

I've been warning people about Kraken on here for months.

Thieves...avoid.

I was assimilated when they took over CAVirtex.

Been trying to get my coins off but it has been impossible to login today. Angry

edit: and Hitbtc is also down for more than 24 hrs.. Shocked

Quote from: milkshock100 on December 14, 2017, 08:43:07 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 14, 2017, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: The_Real_Punisher on December 14, 2017, 06:10:51 PM

Sideways for days - means we will go south soon... Watching this pattern for years now. Only one guy needs to start a dump and well be at 4 digits....

I have been watching these patterns for years now, too. and for the first two years, during 2014 and 2015, there was a tendency to break down after sideways; however, the past two years (2016 and 2017), there has been a tendency to break up, after sideways.

So you seem to be suggesting that we are reverting to the 2014-2015 pattern? Seems way too early to call that kind of reversion, no?

Need to keep an eye on the alts if they�re pumping then the stall is for that reason. As stated above The scam coins will stop being pumped and the profits will go back to btc.

No pumping BTC untill the whales can cash out of ALT with 100% profit.
Grin

Quote from: RayX12 on December 14, 2017, 08:44:43 PM

Quote from: milkshock100 on December 14, 2017, 08:43:07 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 14, 2017, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: The_Real_Punisher on December 14, 2017, 06:10:51 PM

Sideways for days - means we will go south soon... Watching this pattern for years now. Only one guy needs to start a dump and well be at 4 digits....

Need to keep an eye on the alts if they�re pumping then the stall is for that reason. As stated above The scam coins will stop being pumped and the profits will go back to btc.

No pumping BTC untill the whales can cash out of ALT with 100% profit.
Grin

Looks like whales had enough profit on ALTS.. Time to go up BTC Grin

Quote from: proudhon on December 18, 2017, 01:23:52 AM

Well, it's finally here. This is is truly the beginning of the end. And I'm serious. Wall street will put this thing out of its misery once and for all. We'll see 10k before the end of the year for sure. 2018 will be a horror show back below 1k. 2019 will be the year the world tries to figure out just what the hell happened. 2020 the world moves on and bitcoin becomes a memory.

Ha ha ha ha ha..
That is a good laugh!

Roll Eyes

Quote from: CristiTCM on December 18, 2017, 08:14:35 PM

i thought with CME bitcoin price would hit 25k...big disappointment Sad

The futures market has made huge news and thus many BTC traders are looking at what the futures market is doing and following suite. Shocked

Since there are no positive BTC news the futures market could guide BTC price down until something sparks BTC buying pressure and then the futures market will have to explode upwards as well.

The question now is how far will the market goes down before it explodes again?
Given all the hype regarding the futures market and the recent huge gains in BTC this could take from hours to days.
I dont think the BTC buying pressure and FOMO will not subside anytime soon.
20K is also an important number so it is very possible that we might remain in the 17 to 20k range for a couple more days.

We will see what happens..

Quote from: FractalUniverse on December 18, 2017, 09:06:39 PM

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on December 18, 2017, 09:02:33 PM

Guys we are in the 18k/19k range. As someone who has been hodling since 2013 I still can not believe it. 5k seemed a dream. 1k I was dancing around the house!

yeah.
As someone waiting for correction since $3500 couple of months ago, I also cannot believe it

So Im confined to alts for the time being :/ damn

You should be happy now since the alts are caching up while BTC takes a breather.. Currently I am selling my huge gains on the alts to get back on BTC before the ALTS get crushed on the next BTC pump!! Grin

sooooonnn!

Quote from: erre on December 18, 2017, 09:35:59 PM

I don't know if anybody noticed it, but the price is just hovering around the WO thread page count. You should post more.

Warming up the engines prior to 23K launch.

brrrruuum!!!! Image is screwed up

The sad part is that Wall Street is (temporarily) driving this bull now.
What appears to be happening is that the futures market is being used by the Wall Street players as a forecaster of prices and the bulk of other bitcoin traders are following suit. Sad but true, as predicted the legendary Bitcoiners are loosing control of this market.

Watch this video by a pro trader that i have been following for about a year.

"SPECIAL REPORT: Bitcoin Price Falls As CME Futures Exchange Bids Lower. By Gregory Mannarino"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRal9NQZi0&t=40s

The judge is still out, but this event may or may not affect the future prices of Bitcoin on the long term. We all know many heavy hitters in Wall Street do not believe in Bitcoin and they are going to short this market whenever possible to protect their inflationary assets like cash, gold, silver, stocks, etc. That is why it is called the futures market, because is typically used to predict the FUTURE, although it has been proven that they do not predict it but rather manipulate it!

Is Bitcoin DEAD?
No, I dont think so, not by a long shot! The true value of this asset has not changed, its deflationary model has not changed, its security model has not changed, its destiny has not changed, nothing has changed except that the big boys BETTING-CLUB is now wanting to take some profits out of this bull run. The big boys betting-club has been doing this for a long time and dont want to miss the adrenaline and the gains ($$$) of this market. Some of the Banksters that participate in this club also have to protect their inflationary assets and they will be betting against while other fund managers will be betting for the continuation of this run.

Should I buy the DIP?
Absolutely! This market volatility is going to increase and if the price is pushed down too much it will rebound when the bitcoin believers take control. In this case the believers participating in the futures market will also help push BTC to much higher adding to the rebound.

Can Wall Street stop Bitcoin now?
This is still a free market and its forces will take BTC much higher since the true value of this asset that is now worth $306 Billion dollars is intact. Wall Street with its huge financial backing can kick BTC around but it wont be long before the underlying market forces will take control away from Wall Street.

Quote from: _javier_ on December 19, 2017, 05:32:51 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on December 19, 2017, 05:03:28 PM

Check out my new toy

Thanks to /u/PAdogooder and /u/futuneral on Reddit for auctioning these off. Very limited number created IIRC.

i DO NEED one

Grin

LOVE IT!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....

Quote from: _javier_ on December 19, 2017, 05:32:51 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on December 19, 2017, 05:03:28 PM

Check out my new toy

Thanks to /u/PAdogooder and /u/futuneral on Reddit for auctioning these off. Very limited number created IIRC.

i DO NEED one

Grin

LOVE IT!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....

Quote from: Xian01 on December 19, 2017, 06:55:08 PM

Wrong direction now. Goddamnit.

OMG does it really go up and down with ~~portafolio~~ BTC value?? DAMMMMM I LOVE IT!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I hope someone proves this guy wrong!!

Bitcoin gamed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOgbai2e0kA

Quote from: d_eddie on December 19, 2017, 09:27:42 PM

First buy order hit!
Now just a little more, please.
Oh, by the way...
JIMBOOOOO!!! To the ATM, rush!!!
(buying commission must be pretty low too)

JIMBOOOO!!! To the rescue.

JayJuanGee to the rescue!

Lauda to the rescue!

Just kidding! Grin

This bottom 16.5 to 17K is being tested a number of times! Last chance to buy before 25K pump.
Are you missing this train?

Wall Street followers dumped their coins in panic mode!

Let the Xmas party begin!

Off topic:

Unbelievable I was able to execute some trades on Kraken Just NOW!
That would be the 1st time in one week.

BTRASH at 0.2 that is worth dumping

Roger Ver revenge!
Tomorrow BTC revenge!

Grin

Quote from: LastJedi on December 20, 2017, 12:44:04 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on December 20, 2017, 12:33:20 AM

Looks like we get Masterluc's ten grand sooner than we expected.

I wonder if this was a regulated market whether all of Coinbase would wind up in jail.

Coinbase just release BCH selling on their website while I am online and seeing it available live and the bitcoin price crashes to $16000 all the sudden.

What the hell is with this war anyways?

Well coordinated attack on BTC. HODL mother fuckers!

The bigest pump was on Bittrex...

Poor mother fuckers price is collapsing and Bittrex is frozen!!!

Crash and burn mother fuckers!!!

Quote from: bitserve on December 20, 2017, 12:52:10 AM

Wow, all my BCH sell orders up to 0.29 executed in Bittrex, WTF?!?!

Congratulations dude!!! You nailed it!

The futures markets trying to hold bitcoin down.. I hope they fucking get killed!

Classical - Beautiful - Majestic PUMP and DUMP Trash CASH

Only at Bittrex 1 minute candles... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Futures holding BTC down!

The CME futures contracts are shown as a thick pink line!

Quote from: RayX12 on December 19, 2017, 09:37:31 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on December 19, 2017, 09:27:42 PM

First buy order hit!
Now just a little more, please.
Oh, by the way...
JIMBOOOOO!!! To the ATM, rush!!!
(buying commission must be pretty low too)

JIMBOOOO!!! To the rescue.

JIMBOOOO!!! To the rescue.

Quick go to the ATM last chance for cheap coins..

Quote from: Ibian on December 20, 2017, 07:22:33 PM

Quote from: gwoplock on December 20, 2017, 07:16:54 PM

I think for bitcoin to grow and the price to grow past 20k the scalability issue need to be fixed. Fees of 700+ sat/B is unsustainable. I don't think that increasing the block size like BCH did is the solution but a hard look at scalability is needed.

Do you think that halving the block size is a solution then?

Problem could be solved if everyone adopts segwit.

Ture or False?

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 20, 2017, 07:05:54 PM

NYSE Parent co files for Bitcoin Futures ETF

https://www.coindesk.com/ice-exchange-unit-seeking-to-list-bitcoin-futures-etf/

This is the same day that Coinbase launched Bcash (which buried this news).

Fuck these greedy bastards that want BTC gains and not buy a single Bitcoin. Angry

Quote from: nikauforest on December 20, 2017, 07:55:03 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on December 20, 2017, 07:47:11 PM

Quote from: Ibian on December 20, 2017, 07:22:33 PM

Quote from: gwoplock on December 20, 2017, 07:16:54 PM

Do you think that halving the block size is a solution then?

Problem could be solved if everyone adopts segwit.

Ture or False?

that is a good question. Core claims yes. We have 5% segwit adoption so far. ( heard from Jimmy Song this morning) Anyone care to guess the fees if everyone moved to segwit today. 1) The cost to move. 2) the costs after moving. Any guesses?

I just looked for Electrum wallet and they do not have Segwit support yet.

see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/7dku5r/segwit_wallets_and_electrum/

btw.. I would pay to get segwit wallet!

Can somone confirm if this new version is working with segwit transactions.

According to the Release Notes ( https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES)

There is support for Segwit but one has to chose it. It is not default.. I am not a dev so maybe someone can check this out:

------------------------
"# Release 3.0.3
  * Qt GUI: sweeping now uses the Send tab, allowing fees to be set
  * Windows: if using the installer binary, there is now a separate shortcut
   for "Electrum Testnet"
  * Digital Bitbox: added suport for p2sh-segwit
  * OS notifications for incoming transactions
  * better transaction size estimation:
   - fees for segwit txns were somewhat underestimated (#3347)
   - some multisig txns were underestimated
   - handle uncompressed pubkeys
  * fix #3321: testnet for Windows binaries
  * fix #3264: Ledger/dbb signing on some platforms
  * fix #3407: KeepKey sending to p2sh output
  * other minor fixes and usability improvements

# Release 3.0.2
  * Android: replace requests tab with address tab, with access to
   private keys
  * sweeping minikeys: search for both compressed and uncompressed
   pubkeys
  * fix wizard crash when attempting to reset Google Authenticator
  * fix #3248: fix Ledger+segwit signing
  * fix #3262: fix SSL payment request signing
  * other minor fixes.

# Release 3.0.1
  * minor bug and usability fixes

# Release 3.0 - Uncanny Valley (November 1st, 2017)

  * The project was migrated to Python3 and Qt5. Python2 is no longer
   supported. If you cloned the source repository, you will need to
   run "python3 setup.py install" in order to install the new
   dependencies.

  *Segwit support:

   - Native segwit scripts are supported using a new type of
   seed. The version number for segwit seeds is 0x100. The install
   wizard will not create segwit seeds by default; users must
   opt-in with the segwit option.

   - Native segwit scripts are represented using bech32 addresses,
   following BIP173. Please note that BIP173 is still in draft
   status, and that other wallets/websites may not support
   it. Thus, you should keep a non-segwit wallet in order to be
   able to receive bitcoins during the transition period. If BIP173
   ends up being rejected or substantially modified, your wallet
   may have to be restored from seed. This will not affect funds
   sent to bech32 addresses, and it will not affect the capacity of
   Electrum to spend these funds.

   - Segwit scripts embedded in p2sh are supported with hardware
   wallets or bip39 seeds. To create a segwit-in-p2sh wallet,
   trezor/ledger users will need to enter a BIP49 derivation path.

   - The BIP32 master keys of segwit wallets are serialized using new
   version numbers. The new version numbers encode the script type,
   and they result in the following prefixes:

   * xpub/xprv : p2pkh or p2sh
   * ypub/yprv : p2wpkh-in-p2sh
   * Ypub/Yprv : p2wsh-in-p2sh
   * zpub/zprv : p2wpkh
   * Zpub/Zprv : p2wsh

   These values are identical for mainnet and testnet; tpub/tprv
   prefixes are no longer used in testnet wallets.

   - The Wallet Import Format (WIF) is similarly extended for segwit
   scripts. After a base58-encoded key is decoded to binary, its
   first byte encodes the script type:

   * 128 + 0: p2pkh
   * 128 + 1: p2wpkh
   * 128 + 2: p2wpkh-in-p2sh
   * 128 + 5: p2sh
   * 128 + 6: p2wsh
   * 128 + 7: p2wsh-in-p2sh

   The distinction between p2sh and p2pkh in private key means that
   it is not possible to import a p2sh private key and associate it
   to a p2pkh address.

  * A new version of the Electrum protocol is required by the client
   (version 1.1). Servers using older versions of the protocol will
   not be displayed in the GUI.

  * By default, transactions are time-locked to the height of the
   current block. Other values of locktime may be passed using the
   command line."

I just witnessed something unreal. AS BITCH goes down and breaks the downtrend then all coins take a little dump to catch the rebound on the BITCH.

Everybody is trying to catch a falling knife. I hope all of you BITCH lovers burn in hell soon!

Quote from: Ibian on December 20, 2017, 11:29:08 PM

Quote from: TERA2 on December 20, 2017, 11:25:12 PM

It's wall street some kind of singular sentient being?

Yes.

NO!
Wall Street is nothing, is shit, absolute corrupt, absolute manipulated, making the rich richer, totally centralized, super inflationary, dirty as a donkeys underwear.
Take a deep breath.
Bitcoin is everything, it is gold, obsolutely pure, absolutely desired, making the little hodlers riches, totally decentralized, super deflationary, clean and transparent as digital 0101010101010101!

You are now witnessing large piles of devaluated $$$ flood the crypto scene. This will only accelerate as the financial world deepens into unsustainable debt and inflation.

Some people will go:

Some people will go:

And hodlers will be:

DIE BITCH!!!!!!
DIE BITCH!!!!
DIE BITCH!!
DIE BITCH!

Quote from: alexeft on December 21, 2017, 01:26:42 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 21, 2017, 01:16:19 PM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 21, 2017, 10:02:28 AM

Fees are calculated per byte not per transaction so a miner is notionally indifferent to mining 5 normal or 10 Segwit transactions. In reality I suspect that miners are anti-Segwit because less congestion would be less fees.

And for now, it's OK for Bitcoin network rules : https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/10/27/segwit-upgrade-guide/

Quote

The segwit soft fork has also been designed to be both backwards and forwards compatible with all commonly-used wallets, so wallet developers and users can also independently decide whether they want to adopt segwit or continue making transactions without segregated witnesses.

We can fix that.
Users (full nodes) must enforce segwit transactions.

I guess the time will come for that as well.

Any place to see segwit adoption of Miners & Core Nodes?
I have gone to https://coin.dance/nodes#share
But it does not say how many core nodes are actually accepting segwit. I suppose some nodes have not upgraded and therefore cannot support segwit.

And also the miners here do not show which ones support segwit.. I assume that most of them by now?
https://coin.dance/blocks

And YES I hope they can enforce segwit very soon! The BTC price will go BOOM! Finish that BITCH once and for all.

Quote from: Searing on December 21, 2017, 01:39:38 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 21, 2017, 01:31:39 PM

like always, we must wait 1 year (4 revisions of Bitcoin Core). Wink

If I was bitcoin core...I'd either

1) pull Lighting out of my hat....and get some of that moving..razzle dazzle etc

or

2) do a hard fork, just to slap down Bitcoin Cash to about 800 bucks again at most, might not

be ideal, but better the decentralized group slap the BCH spam'ing centralized group now with a hard fork, I figure, then watch 'Rome burns'

with ludicrous fees!

(Actually, if I was core, I'd be pissed off enough to just do both...then all that BCH would come home to 'mama'

A daydream I know..but how long can core put up with the spam'ing and high transaction fees w/o hard fork

on their part? not sure....seems sucky to be bitcoin core right now unless all or some of the above is done "pronto"

yeah, yeah, I know ...if wishes were horses...etc/etc

Brad

Why not give the BITCH some of their own medicine and span the living shit our of their blocks?

Quote from: fragout on December 21, 2017, 04:09:48 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on December 21, 2017, 03:59:59 PM

Quote from: mike4001 on December 21, 2017, 03:55:09 PM

Holy Sh**

Didn't expect it to get this low ...

Why not? A few short weeks ago people were predicting these prices for the end of the decade still.

Exactly. I often open this thread but it loads an earlier page. 16909 to be exact and the first post i see is

:-D
$2000 inkominggggg^!

Thats way back in May so it kinda puts things in perspective. During the massive rise since, my biggest fear was what the correction would look like and if it would be Gox scale. What is happening now is slow and measured and triggered by Bcash pump/coinbase etc, but was needed anyway.
Still bullish

Ha ha.. that would be sweet... $2000 I better get all of my cash sent to the exchange, just in case put a buy order in COINBASE at $500 and may get filled!!! ha ha ha Grin

I think there is nothing wrong with a correction, but the method of this manipulation via tx spam and the attack by the BITCH coin in collusion with Coinbase and at the same time that CME futures open is an absolute disaster. I am personally sending money to the exchange to begin buying what I can. I hope that this media manipulation in collusion with Roger Ver and others does not send this bull market into a recession. I am not scared but I think that many people that bought in the last pump are freaking out. If there is a price collapse for BTC this could cause so much fear that the bull market would be stopped in its tracks.

I will be buying BTC until I ran out of cash.

Good luck!

Shopping time! CHEAP COINS - CANDY FOR MY WALLET!

Here comes the CAPITULATION! Grin

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 22, 2017, 02:18:24 PM

Soooo...... anyone bought a boat lately?

confirmed

Delaying the block 48 minutes... Huh

Quote from: RayX12 on December 22, 2017, 03:08:03 PM

Delaying the block 48 minutes... Huh

Son of a bitch... MINERS!
I sent a transaction with Fee / KB 0.01046460 BTC and did not get confirmed.

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 22, 2017, 03:46:03 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see I finally got my buying opportunity... currently $13252USD/$17019CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It's a bloodbath all across cryptoland with Bitcoin suffering significantly less than most. As a result old coins are down to $15841USD/$20313CAD (Coinmarketcap).

Unfortunately my usual local ATM has gone crazy with insanely high buy fees and the nearest ATM with reasonable fees doesn't open for another 15 minutes.

Looks like I missed the bottom but this dip is still worth buying. I'd better get out and hail a cab so I can be there when they open their doors.

JIMBOOOO to the rescue! Grin

Quote from: Sitarow on December 22, 2017, 04:16:56 PM

Quote from: proudhon on December 22, 2017, 04:12:34 PM

God damn. Took long enough, but we can now be certain we've seen the highest prices bitcoin will ever achieve. Long term is only down.

Your a broken record

I love it!

Up we go! Cheesy

Double confirmed Grin

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2017, 04:58:43 PM

Breaking 24777$ prediction game

Take Jan 30th if available.
Thanks

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 22, 2017, 06:26:13 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on December 22, 2017, 03:10:35 PM

Son of a bitch... MINERS!
I sent a transaction with Fee / KB 0.01046460 BTC and did not get confirmed.

MEMpool is the Master.

Took two blocks at 0.01046 fee/Kb Shocked

If you cant beat them then join them... Shocked

"Lord Rothschild Vows To Destroy Bitcoin � Launches �FedCoin�"
http://yournewswire.com/rothschild-fedcoin-bitcoin/

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 28, 2017, 11:19:59 AM

Quote from: NiceSoft12 on December 28, 2017, 08:09:10 AM

I predict a spectacular crash after the fork!

As always the fork in non event!

Fuck the Fork.. ha ha ha now at 501451!!
Sell you worthless 2X

WARNING WARNING

HitBTC is scamming people for their coins. They are pumping to higher prices then other exchanges, and people are getting stuck in their exchange and not able to withdraw their BTC.

They are sending BTC transaction with TX fees of 130 sat/B. People are not getting their withdrawals in any coin.

More of this shit here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=378827.1120

Quote from: bitcoinvest on January 22, 2018, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: xxxgoodgirls on January 22, 2018, 02:49:31 PM

What's up with the price? Any bad news?

just some people cashing out

I agree, many millionaires have been made in the last 6 months and will take some time till some of them cash out and feel good about having fiat in the bank.
Fuck fiat in the bank I say.

Quote from: hexxodev_temp on January 22, 2018, 04:16:57 PM

B�rsen tells its website that Nordea will ban 31,000 of its employees with trading bitcoin.
According to B�rsen, Nordea denies its employees to trade with bitcoin. According to the Danish newspaper, Nordea has announced this by an internal announcement on Monday.

Nordea's communications have been strengthened with Bloomberg's news agency. Afroditi Kellberg of Nordea says that the ban will come into effect on 28 February. After that, Nordea employees can not trade with bitcoin or other cryptographic currencies.

In December, Nordea Group CEO Casper von Koskull expressed his views on the bitstream of bitstream. He regards his unregulatedness as absurd.

- Considering that the financial system uses billions of financial regulation, I mean that it's actually a joke that we're going to give something like Bitcoin's, the CEO said to the Bloomberg news agency at that time.

During the weekend, Norwegian E24 reports that Nordea in Norway has banned thousands of employees from trading with bitcoin.

That is good.. get to work mother fuckers. Stop trading! Buy and HODL only! Grin

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 23, 2018, 05:58:48 PM

I have no doubt, but I'm on a schedule. I've made peace parting with 20-30% of my Bitcorn reserves to fund my retirement, within the next 30 days.

Now I'm just dealing with the stress of timing my sell-walls Sad

Is people like you that are holding the train.. you waited how many years to sell BTC and now you cant wait to be a fiatllionare? WTF?

Seems like fees have collapsed.

This makes me believe that the big spammers are now getting hurt by low BTC prices and want to contribute to the price recovery!

ha ha ha... CME Futures have expired.. look at the market pump now.

HATE YOU ALL FUCKING CME MANIPULATORS. I HOPE YOU DIE SOON.

I was blown away yesterday when I opened my Electrum wallet and wanted to send BTC to some family members as part of a Chiristmas gift. The idea was to send my $100 dollar gifts with low fees so that I would not be giving much of my gifting to the miners. To my surprise the lowest calculated fee on the wallet was equivalent to 191 sat/b while the mempool was chugging away at 20-30 sat/b. So I clicked the manual fees option and sent the transaction at 40 sat/b. Today (a few hours later) I went back to my wallet and clicked automatic (dynamic) fee calculation and the calculated fees had dropped to a correct levels like 5 to 50 sat/b. Then I took a look at the Bitcoin fees page https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ and realized that still many people are sending transactions with huge fees while others have scaled fees somewhat appropriately.

I am shocked at the variability of how much money the miners are charging for processing the transactions. My transactions are small so typically 226 bytes is a good average size, today I can send transactions for 10 sat/b or 226sat x 10sat/byte / 100000000 = 0.0000226 BTC ($0.24) and there are people who are still paying 300 sat/byte or 30 times more 0.0000226 * 300/10 = 0.000678 BTC or ($7.48). And then you can see on the fees transaction page ( https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ ) that the bulk of the transactions are centered around 191 to 200 sat/byte; and that is the shocking part. This means that most of the wallets used are still stuck around the 191 to 200 sat/byte and not adjusting the fees dynamically like I noticed yesterday.

My conclusion: The miners have influenced the wallet generators to keep transactions very expensive so they can profit more. Electrum wallet fees will remain very high unless you switch to manual fees and send some cheap transactions, then the automatic fee calculation will kick in when you go back from manual to automatic fee calculation. This change in automatic fee calculation did not happen immediately so be careful if you want to send some cheap transactions that the fees are adjusted properly and probably better to configure the fees manually.

I am on the belief that the spammers have finally realized that it is not to their advantage to keep spamming the mempool and hurting Bitcoins ability to send money cheap! It will be very interesting to see what the future holds for Bitcoins when lightning fast transactions and smart contracts are activated on the network.

eidt: Also noticed that the fee transaction page still says:

"Which fee should I use?
The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 170 satoshis/byte, shown in green at the top.
For the median transaction size of 226 bytes, this results in a fee of 38,420 satoshis."

False information again to benefit the miners!!!!

Quote from: rezurect007 on January 30, 2018, 05:22:40 PM

...
Or People woke up and suddenly felt the urge to move coins? Crash anticipation?
...

Yes! Insider knowledge of the subpoena article coming.

Time to send some cash to exchanges to catch those wicks! Grin

Go sellers go!

When bood? Kiss

Looks like there is good support at these prices. Hard to believe we could go lower..
Got my buys in.. more money coming tomorrow dickheads...
Wait for me, please dont dump more today do it tomorrow.

The DEMOCRATS are dumping BTC, they will need extra cash for lawyers.
The REPUBLICANS are dumping BTC, they need cash to pay back Puttin for all the favors.
The NEWBS are dumping BTC, they fear losing it all.
The BULLS are dumping BTC, they want to push the price down to buy cheaper.
edit: Wallstreet is dumping BTC, they want more fools to buy BTC contracts at $8000 for February and March expiration.
The BEARS are shorting BTC.
edit: ALT hodlers are dumping ALTS to join all of the above.

What are you doing today?

I am buying more BTC! Kiss

Blood bath! BUY BUY BUY!

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 02, 2018, 03:57:32 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland. Finally made it back out of the jungle to reliable internet access in Playa del Carmen.

Looks like I missed the best buying opportunity in months, down under $7.7k. Now it's already back up over $9k and rising... currently $9005USD/$11155CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Today I go back to see the dental tourism doctor for a final set of price quotes and then I'm back on a plane to the Great White North tomorrow.

I'm gonna hate trading sleeping in a tent under a palapa for trudging through the snow, but maybe I'll still have the chance to buy some coins for quadruple digits when I get back.

Jimbo to the rescue:
Good to see you back.
Buy Jimbo buy!

Quote from: jojo69 on February 02, 2018, 06:42:04 PM

FS

slightly used Lambo Huracan Spyder
Nero Nemesis Matt
Nero Ade, Sportivo Unicolor w/Alcantara Seat Trim
20" X 8.5J Fr & 20" X 11J Rr Mimas Nero
loaded
only 2730 km

$287K firm

In 2020 it will be only 2.87 BTC according to John Mcafee
I pass for now, thanks. Grin

Banking system is not dead yet. Expect the fight to continue for a long time eventually BTC will win!
I see a buying opportunity approaching today!
Waiting for the blood bath with open arms.

Newbies head banging against the buy wall...

Like Jimbo would say:

Good morning Bitcoinland I see Bitcoins is $100 dollar cheaper than 3 days ago... Not low enough for me to run to the ATM.

They say:

"The Market Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent"

Bull shit! I am just hodling and buying whenever possible.

What are you doing today?

Quote from: SidETH on February 05, 2018, 06:47:18 PM

If you are all so 'convinced' it will go even lower, why not dump now and buy back later?

I am not convinced.

ICOs are panicking and cashing out all the BTC and keeping ETH. Eventually they will also dump ETH on capitulation.

Quote from: gembitz on February 05, 2018, 09:23:03 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 05, 2018, 09:15:04 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 05, 2018, 09:09:27 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on February 05, 2018, 12:02:01 PM

Like Jimbo would say:

Good morning Bitcoinland I see Bitcoins is $100 dollar cheaper than 3 days ago... Not low enough for me to run to the ATM.

Didn't Jimbo say that he was going to return to "civilization" today, and probably as soon as Jimbo gets around to buying BTC in his jammies at a local BTM, after taking care of his other more urgent matters, such as getting a cup of mocha and verifying the schedule of Jays' game, then we gonna get some uppity after that, no?

He's getting his teeth fixed I think.

bwaaaaaa

I think Jimbo is buying the bottom is in!

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 05, 2018, 11:25:31 PM

Quote from: rolling on February 05, 2018, 08:50:20 PM

Who sold at the bottom?

We don't know that yet... Sad

I bet Jaimie Diamond was buying!

Quote from: TERA2 on February 06, 2018, 12:30:51 AM

The sentiment on the forum perplexes me. When its at a high everyone is super bullish and when its down 70% (where there is always a huge bounce) the forum is super bearish. I thought all the super smart bitcoin people here would be better than that.

Good point! It just helps the people in the know to execute the sell high and buy low motto. Grin

A message from a HODLER:

The buying opportunities for new comers are just amazing.
The sell off is CAUSED by the huge investment funds reducing the risk and locking-in profits.
But the RISK is not coming from crypto-currencies but rather from economical and political turmoil worldwide and specially in the USA.
There will be a turn around soon that will bring even more capital into the crypto markets after the dust settled.
BUY BUY BUY all of the crypto that you can afford.

Today volume is comparable to Sept 14th of 2017 when Jamie Dimon was secretly buying BTC.

Congratulations to all hodlers!
I declare this train is in remote control to the moon.
Kiss

Thank you big guys and whales.

Quote from: mike4001 on February 20, 2018, 05:35:18 PM

BTC dominance at 38,9%.

Amazing how quickly things change! My ALTs are getting killed while my BTC is king again. I cant figure out why BTC is king so quickly while it only has 38.9% dominance.

Quote from: Karartma1 on February 21, 2018, 09:02:03 AM

Nice the only good news for the Wall Obs today is about Bob retiring. Grin

Below not good news

Quote from: d_eddie on February 20, 2018, 07:55:55 PM

South Korea economic policymaker Jung Ki-Joon found dead in his home. He was one of the main government advisors for cryptocurrency matters. Probably a heart attack.
He was the single most important contributor to the recent KYC/AML crackdown on South Korean exchanges.
Hm. Hm. Don't know what to think. Bullish? Bearish? Dontgiveafuckish?
Was it really his heart, or something he drank/ate?
I'm beginning to sound like Torque, I know, but but...

Simple, the guy did not close his short and now his millions have been liquidated.

Quote from: DeathAngel on February 21, 2018, 02:56:02 PM

What kind of asshole doesn�t want to see us above $11,000 per bitcoin?

Someone wanting to retire..

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 21, 2018, 03:33:55 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 21, 2018, 03:27:45 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on February 21, 2018, 03:16:31 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on February 21, 2018, 02:56:02 PM

What kind of asshole doesn�t want to see us above $11,000 per bitcoin?

Someone wanting to retire..

https://media3.giphy.com/media/ANbD1CCdA3iI8/200.gif

Dudes. DUDES. 'Hol up there. I promise you I'm HODLing for at least $12k...

Ok, I believe you.. but there is many more that could..

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 21, 2018, 04:13:17 PM

Quote from: infofront on February 21, 2018, 04:06:46 PM

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 21, 2018, 04:00:46 PM

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 03:48:03 PM

Is anyone else just fucking DONE with wintry weather? Can't fucking wait till the sailing season starts.

I actually prefer winter over summer. At some point you just run out of layers of clothes to take off and at that point you're still getting fucked by the sun when going outside. I'm so glad humanity has nearly perfected staying home.

The good thing about hot weather is that it encourages ladies and/or gentlemen, depending on your persuasion, to wear less clothing.
I was on vacation in South Beach a few weeks ago...hot girls in thongs everywhere. Kiss

I live in a small university city, so you can hardly look anywhere without seeing some skin. But I'm not sure it's really worth it given how tedious it is to be outside in such weather. At least grabbing food and groceries is more interesting I guess.

Looks like we are heading into a year without summer.. Ash injected into the atmosphere cuts down on solar radiation hitting our lands. This is growing concern for the next 30 years while the sun POSSIBLY goes into a period of low activity.

Check this guys videos. https://www.youtube.com/user/MyanmarLiving/videos

I suspect this dump is caused by Venezuelas president Maduro dumping his BTC for $$$

In case you did not know he is desperate for $$ since his state-owned oil company are now in default on about US$1.7 billion.
Todays 738 million pre-ico sale of his petro coin has given him enough money to begin the bail out that will prevent further economic collapse of his government.

I dont think that Maduro will be an honest president and use this money as he claims, to help the country. Expect further dumps from this idioT!

Quote from: bitserve on February 22, 2018, 11:19:45 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on February 22, 2018, 11:12:46 PM

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.

There is no way to prevent the economic collapse of Venezuela, no matter what they do, even if they were (they aren't) exceptionally good managers from now on. It is way beyond possible recovery. The only thing they can do is prolong the agony at the cost of its citizens suffering. The sooner it finally implodes, the better.

The "petro" will be a shitshow worth watching with a good dose of popcorns.

P.S.: $735 million from Petro ICO pre-sale? I call BULLSHIT on that.

Watch this report by Bitcoin Meister (World Crypto Network):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTO1bWzX6M

Quote from: explorer on February 22, 2018, 11:28:34 PM

Quote from: bitserve on February 22, 2018, 11:19:45 PM

I disagree. I see no forward thinking at all coming from that direction. Only current/immediate_future greed.

Here is another interesting report.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVk8SKWvTM

It is hard to believe who would have bought this shit coin?
He plans to sell it to Venezuelan people in the official ICO. Cry

edit: read this as well:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/venezuela-petro-cryptocurrency-180219065112440.html

Here you can buy some Petro..
Have White paper and all!!

http://elpetro.gob.ve/index-en.html

edit: wiki is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_(cryptocurrency)

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 23, 2018, 02:51:00 AM

Looks like Petro sale was a fizzer and hasn�t raised a cent.

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2018/02/22/petro-hasnt-raised-dime/

hmmmmmm Maybe the petros have not been transferred anywhere yet.
I do find it hard to believe that had raised $700K in one day.

The other possible big dumper is of course Wall Street. Settlement date is Feb 28 on futures contract.

Someone warned me about BTC in December. He stated that the big boys (wallstreet) want in the action therefore BTC no longer represents freedom; it will be manipulated like Gold, Silver, he predicted!
I am starting to believe this theory. Angry

9000 is strong support. Dont dump you trustee fags!

Quote from: sirazimuth on March 08, 2018, 08:17:39 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 08, 2018, 05:31:42 PM

Quote from: jonoiv on March 08, 2018, 11:11:29 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 07, 2018, 06:15:41 PM

[edited out]

As somebody that spends a good proportion of their waking life on a Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion but doesn't like opposing views to their own, and somebody that edits out their own quotes but misquotes others, somebody that asks for reasons why the 3k prediction, and when reasons are presented to them (15% of ATH lows historically), ignores the very simple response to the question, do you feel your defending some grand principal, or are you just a cunt?

Because if i were to say "probably 100k by Christmas'' you wouldn't bat an eyelid. Your fervor is funny at best and a little unsettling at worst, why don't you spend some time with the kids or friends or the wife/girlfriend/partner etc.

I visit this thread maybe once a week during the volatile periods and once a month in the quieter times. Do you not have anything better to do then spend hours a day, bursting blood vessels and foaming at the mouth over strangers best guesses on a forum?

You are just making up shit, and filling space with nonsensical claims. You seem to want to compete with me in the BTC price prediction arena, when I already told you several times that I don't do BTC price predictions beyond saying 50% or 60% here and there and largely predicting one leg at a time with 60% being a stronger level prediction if I make, while at the same time, I employ a methodology that largely attempts to prepare for BTC price movements in either directions.

As I recall, in my posts with you, I was merely asserting that you failed and refused to substantiate your absolutism bullshit and wishful prediction claims beyond merely asserting them as if you are some kind of deity. So furthermore after I called you on your failure and refusal to back up your claims, you falsely proclaim that I am making predictions when I am not. I ongoingly tell you that I am not making predictions or attempting to but preparing for BTC price moves in either direction, but you continue to distract from your stupid ass failure to substantiate your dumb ass absolutist claims by asserting that I am not backing up mine.. what a bunch of bullshit and you further claiming with your false narrative that you must have better insight into bitcoin's price dynamics (and perhaps life as a whole and other implications that you are a superior being Roll Eyes

), because you have other supposedly normal hobbies.

Accordingly, you are coming off as an dizzy insecure retarded dweeb more than anything.

Regarding my editing out of my own text, I sometimes engage in that practice to save space, and I perceive that there is frequently no need to repeat content when it can be easily linked back to. You want to make long additions to walls of text for no fucking reason, you goofball? I am not purposefully editing any substance or attempting to convolute any references you fucking grasping at straws
gooftard.

Faster than a speeding bull run!!

More powerful than a locomotive meme!!

Able to fill pages with a single post!!

"look! up in the WOT!....

it�s a rocket..

it�s a train....

NO.... its WORDYMAN!!! "

Yes its Wordyman!

With many more powerful words than mortal men...

Wordyman !

Types pages with his bare hands!

Able to arrange walls of mighty rivers of text!

and who, (disguised as a mild mannered ballet dancer on a famous bitcoin thread)

fights a never ending battle against the trolls!!

...fudsters!!

in the wordy way.....*

*(apologies to the ancient Superman show )

Confirmed! Wink

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2018, 09:59:28 PM

Price must be going down. They are eating their ~~young~~ JayJuanGee.

Confirmed.. nasty guys! Roll Eyes

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 11, 2018, 09:37:52 PM

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 11, 2018, 09:28:40 PM

Getting to the next order of magnitude is going to happen remarkably fast imho.

Godzilla must sell coins. There's no way around that. (And crush people.)

Nothing but pure BTC manipulation since December!

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 11, 2018, 09:49:07 PM

Godzilla has no puppet master.

Eventually the puppet master, clowns, and Godzilas will be defeated by demand.. just sit tight and wait.

Nice to open Cryptomap on a bull day!

https://coin360.io/

Time to crush those shorts!

ha ha .. literally! ouch

HODLGANG AND CAREFULGANG should be merged to:

HODLCAREFUL GANG! <<<<<< This is what I am! Grin

If you are a newcomer then these term are described here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6iDZspbRMg#t=12m41s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6iDZspbRMg#t=24m47s

so funy..

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 13, 2018, 04:35:21 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways... currently $9032USD/$11670CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Yawn.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 13, 2018, 02:04:59 PM

It's still too damn cold to use the pool.

At least there is no snow here.

So that's nice.

It snowed in Toronto last might. Looked like a Xmas card.

This time tomorrow I'll be back in Mexico. Hopefully there'll be no snow there.

Are you raiding the local ATM?

Jimbooooo to the rescue! Grin

and... the HODLCAREFUL GANG!

CHOOO CHOO!

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2018, 05:03:53 PM

it's CRAEFULGANG

at least get it right

I prefer HODLCAREFUL..

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2018, 05:10:31 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 13, 2018, 05:08:59 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2018, 05:03:53 PM

it's CRAEFULGANG

at least get it right

I prefer HODLCAREFUL..

then it would be HODLCRAEFUL

the misspelling was part of the pun Roll Eyes

Yes you win!

HODLCRAEFUL GANG!
HODLCRAEFUL GANG!

Cheesy

Clearly many entities want a piece of the blockchain, from government, to wana-be-rich programmers, to Wallstreet, to the largest influencing companies in the world...

FUCKING BULLISH FOR BITCOIN!

GO GO HODLCRAEFUL GANG!

CHOOO CHOO!

did you notice the train is going backwards? Shocked

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 14, 2018, 12:41:40 PM

....

I have never called the time for the end of bitcoin. Bitcoin will end when the governments will finally crack down on exchanges creating funny-money to pump bitcoin. As long as people ignore things like goxdollars or tether, then there is no height high enough. One thing is certain though - the governments will crack down on fake money exchanges and greater fools will also run out eventually. Then I'd like to see the bitcoin fanatics pay for the 7billion dollar revenue to the miners, just to sustain the network. So, I have no idea when will bitcoin crash, but I know that it will crash, and it will do it with a lot of tears from people who mostly deserve whats coming.

FUD

All these bearish nobs part of the dump manipulators that suck dick to the trustees. <<<<--- FAGS!

Be a man, be part of the HODLCRAEFUL GANG!

Bitcoin to the moon! Tongue

Why is Nobuaki Kibayashi still alive?
Bitcoiners are way too civilized. Fuck him in the ass now!
He is now hodling the funds he sold!
Corruption at its best!

GO BITCOIN GO!

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 14, 2018, 07:17:03 PM

Why is Nobuaki Kibayashi still alive?
Bitcoiners are way too civilized. Fuck him in the ass now!
He is now hodling the funds he sold!
Corruption at its best!

GO BITCOIN GO!

Hello? You forgot to mention the sound wisdom of: HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

I like it: HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

I am surprised to see the Shorts/Longs graph.. both sides keep building up!

Blowup will be coming soon! I hope it is up and those shorts get REKT!

https://datamish.com/dashboard/db/btcusd?refresh=10s&orgId=1&from=now%2Fw&to=now

This Bitcoin dump was so painful..

But then we get relief..

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

Quote from: TERA2 on March 15, 2018, 12:27:50 PM

I dont see any blood yet. Still a bunch of bulls and fancy new lambos

FUD spotted

Quote from: soullyG on March 15, 2018, 11:40:13 AM

Hmmm still not enough volume on these drops...another couple of weeks of grinding down before we can start moving up?

You could be right but I think the bears are running out of ammo. Hopefully the JAP trustee is being flogged accordingly to his doings.

The manipulation is comming to a temporary stop.

The Bix Weir findings are very very instresting.

"The trustee money coming back?"

Must listen..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbSq5YV4W_E&feature=em-uploademail

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: Asrael999 on March 15, 2018, 02:13:39 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 15, 2018, 12:30:12 PM

Quote from: TERA2 on March 15, 2018, 12:27:50 PM

I dont see any blood yet. Still a bunch of bulls and fancy new lambos

FUD spotted

Facts you dislike are still facts, there is nowhere near enough despair yet for this to be the bottom.

Ha ha FUDSTER.. where have you been?

Did you miss the bottom?
It is history!

GO BITCOIN GO!

Quote from: Totscha on March 15, 2018, 03:18:22 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 15, 2018, 02:38:22 PM

Quote from: Asrael999 on March 15, 2018, 02:13:39 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 15, 2018, 12:30:12 PM

Quote from: TERA2 on March 15, 2018, 12:27:50 PM

I dont see any blood yet. Still a bunch of bulls and fancy new lambos

FUD spotted

Facts you dislike are still facts, there is nowhere near enough despair yet for this to be the bottom.

Ha ha FUDSTER.. where have you been?

Did you miss the bottom?
It is history!

GO BITCOIN GO!

Looks like someone is high on hopium.

The long term trend is bearish. Looks like we're heading to $5k in March. Will we get there? Nobody knows.

Did the reversal just start? Could be. Is there any indication it has? None whatsoever.

FUDster again. As always this place is plagued with bears when the pressure on.

High on hopium! Yes and I love it!

GO BITCOIN GO!

Quote from: jojo69 on March 15, 2018, 04:29:21 PM

in Russia...treasure finds you

Specially if you have BTC!

Do you want some?

Whale Slayers unite!

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: mfort312 on March 15, 2018, 10:41:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q

For every turd of FUD out there, there's some unicorn sherbet just waiting to be dispensed...

TURD: US Congressional Hearings: "Bitcoin is a Crock for Men in Pajamas!"
SHERBERT:
- Congress is actually talking about us? Who cares about the actual verbal diarrhea coming out their congressional gobholes... By merely talking about us, they further legitimize crypto.
- As an aside, does Sherman really believe that men in pajamas don't also fruckin trade stocks, options, real estate, derivatives and precious metals while telling their wives they'll be millionaires one day? What an idiot.

TURD: Mt Gox Trustee market sells BTC and BCH
SHERBERT:
- Goxees are actually receiving settlements?! Wowee. How much of that will come right back into crypto? Kobayashi may be an idiot, and a short-lived one at that, but the fact that Bitcoin has appreciated so frucking much that the trustee only needed to liquidate 15% of the recovered stash to pay back ALL the creditors' claims is a miracle in and of itself. That's not exactly how the story ended with Bernie Madoff's clients. This fact is being WAY under-reported. I can't believe the market is focused so much more on slippage instead of Bitcoin's incredible asset appreciation since then. The real idiots in this story are the judge and creditors who insisted on being paid back in fiat-equivalent at the time of Gox's collapse instead of Bitcoin, just because the price of BTC continued to collapse post-Mt Gox. Oh ye of little faith, careful what you ask for and now eat your frucking cake!
- BTC dominance 42% and rising!
- BCH $600 hahaha

TURD: Google and Facebook ban crypto ads
SHERBET:
- Fruck the ICOs, Shitecoins, Exchanges, and Scammers!!!!
- Bitcoin dominance 42% and rising!

TURD: Bitcoin searches trending down
SHERBERT:
- Dude, who really needs to search for Bitcoin now that it's being reported daily on CNBC, NPR, WSJ, Twitter, newsfeeds, etc etc? Everyone who's anyone with any interest or the means to delve into Bitcoin at this point in the adoption curve has already done so. They don't need to search for it anymore. They're already in it. To me, the fact that search trends spike and then fall off means that action has already been taken. When was the last time you googled "how to buy Bitcoin"?

TURD: Regulation Fears Driving Bitcoin Down
SHERBERT:
- By choosing to regulate Bitcoin, governments further recognize its legitimacy and are forced to shine light on the benefits to society. Nobody sane wants Bitcoin, fiat, gold or anything else to fund terrorism or money-laundering, and the more Bitcoin is associated with the shadowy underworld, the more negative attention and regulation it will bring upon us. Bitcoin may have started on the backs of drug-dealers, but the crypto lot must also prove it can clean up well and be presentable at their parents' holiday dinner.

TURD: Bitcoin is no longer profitable for miners
SHERBERT:
- HAHAHAHA.

I'm sure we all have a little sherbert to dispense...

Great turding story.. +Merits

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 17, 2018, 01:24:32 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/81qkxp/when_you_are_trying_to_buy_the_dip/

Haha lol

Wallstreet playing with us boys! I was warned that this would happen when the big fucking guns assault BTC!

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 17, 2018, 04:26:52 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 17, 2018, 04:12:24 PM

Quote from: tonyq on March 17, 2018, 03:54:46 PM

Am I alone in thinking that this is the true beginning of the demise of bitcoin?
Undecided

Have you just bought this account?

Someone of your vintage should be exactly like this right now -

Exactly!! By now, you should be the Prime Minister of the Government of a federated.... wait, what?! ...oh I get it Wink

Shirtless right?

Should allow to take Merits away for such ... insult?

It is my b-day! Rise .. market .. rise..

Quote from: Cassius on March 17, 2018, 06:08:55 PM

Quote from: Elwar on March 17, 2018, 05:19:05 PM

...... FUD

It correlates very well (suspiciously well in fact) with the 2013 bubble aftermath. However, the timeline is hugely accelerated, meaning we're almost at the bottom of it already. By my reckoning, it will take a maximum of two more months to bottom out, assuming it hasn't already. The massive volumes we saw on 6 Feb at $6k will be hard to beat and I'm still in two minds whether that's likely to get broken again.

http://telegra.ph/Inferno-market-outlook-The-Double-Bubble-Analysis-03-16

wow! LOOK AT THAT GRAPH!

The bottom is in... me thinks!

Go BITCOIN GO

Quote from: bitserve on March 17, 2018, 08:19:04 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on March 17, 2018, 07:56:51 PM

This can't be the trustee selling. On Saturday? Puh-leeze!

This is manipulation, plain and simple. Somebody wants to have our coins for cheap.

Don't let them.

Hodl.

It isn't Kobayashi: https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180317_qa.pdf (skip to the last half for english translation)

Smoke that fucking Bear Whale!

ICO panic is setting in. Icos cashing out their ETH.
SEC is shaken the ICOs from the tree.

Who is harvesting apples?? Grin

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on March 19, 2018, 10:59:55 AM

This pitchfork is still holding.

Best analysis so far, simple, intuitive, symmetrical, factual, timely. You dont need to understand the theory behind it to see the possibilities.
+ Merits.

Epic BLOCKCHAINIAN RHAPSODY!

This guy is amazing. Must listen all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzXM2x6rQhs

Quote from: 600watt on March 19, 2018, 08:58:32 PM

Quote from: infofront on March 19, 2018, 05:27:44 PM

Bitcoin is unfolding like the dotcom crash � just 15 times faster

Edit: Amazon crashed from a high of over $100, to a low of about $10 in 2000. 18 years later, they hit $1,578. If we apply the same recovery gain percentage to the recent bitcoin low of ~$6,000, and assume 15x recovery speed, we'd hit ~$946,000 in Apr. 2019. This is all based on questionable math and a clickbait article, but still fun to think about.

$946k per btc in about a year? if that comes true I will buy a lambo for everyone that merits this post.

Oh yes! Why not! I give you some Merits in exchange for a Lambo.. you can have all it all.

Quote from: bitserve on March 20, 2018, 12:28:19 AM

Goats lambo: https://wisconsinhotrodradio.com/new/lambo-goat-trailer/

That is FUNNY!
I better start saving for the goats and trailer in case I get the Lambo from 600watt. Grin

Quote from: Majormax on March 21, 2018, 12:42:10 AM

Quote from: explorer on March 21, 2018, 12:20:58 AM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 20, 2018, 11:54:57 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 20, 2018, 11:31:09 PM

Are we going to get another Bitcointalk whale screwing with the post count to hold back the 20,000th page as we did for the 10,000th? I wonder who that was and what their aim was.

Ever try to mass dump your own posts? It takes an eternity if it isn't your thread. Adam was behind the biggest shakeouts

Goat made some script or something to clear his many thousands of posts when he made his exit from BTCT.org

Otherwise, enjoy your day(s) deleting individual posts Kiss

It is going to be great fun watching the deletes and adjustments as posters try to get the first place on 20000

OMG 19999!

GO WO GO!!!

This is amazing. Twenty thousand pages of manipulation, hopes, jokes, teases, offers (Lambos), promises, insults... and all in the name of ... hmmm

greed! Grin

Quote from: Elwar on March 21, 2018, 12:55:03 AM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 21, 2018, 12:47:47 AM

greed!

FTFY

Yes! Thanks, that is the spirit! Grin

+merits

Smoke that fucking Mt Gox Bear Whale!

The manipulation is comming to a temporary stop.

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

Quote from: InvoKing on March 21, 2018, 01:12:55 AM

--- Happy 20k Wall Observer pages ---
Party Grin

Btw, here is my high quality gif (cough) Grin

Edit : hahaha I won, NO MANIPULATION ! please Wink

Pssst : 400,000 post anyone? (nah i will let you win this time)

Wait, you deserve the 20,000 page!
+merits

Phewwwww! Finally, it looks like 20K is sticking around.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 21, 2018, 05:28:06 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on March 21, 2018, 02:00:27 PM

Quote from: RedBloodWhiteBones on March 21, 2018, 01:48:47 PM

Is this worrying to any of you veterans?

http://fortune.com/2018/03/20/bitcoin-price-blockchain-child-porn-ban-crime/

I'm usually able to shrug off MSM bitcoin FUD but this makes me nervous.

I don't think that government regulations will pose a real threat anytime soon. They know for years already, that bitcoin is mostly used for illegal activities like drugs and child porn, but they aren't doing anything about it. They're possible the same people, who profit most from all this money laundering and the creation of a make-believe industry, that adds value to their fiat money. If they really wanted to stop this, then all of this would be worthless in a month.

And how would they accomplish making "all of this" worthless in a month? Roll Eyes

Total and PURE FUD!

Is the equivalent of saying that because someone painted pornography on on a wall they should demolish the house.

Fuck you FUDSTERS!

Quote from: starmman on March 22, 2018, 01:03:05 PM

.....
Looking quite bearish this week - hoping to see that bull come back soon

This thread is filled with FUDSTERS.

Go away!

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 22, 2018, 02:20:50 PM

brand new POLB "proof of longterm BULL" tattoo Wink still healing normal was the idea to put a btc related tattoo when the price would go over 1k but didn't happen till this tuesday

Confirmed!
+Merits

GO BITCOIN GO
Tiny correction should be over soon!

Asholes from Wallstreet are playing with BTC.

Quote from: Maicol792 on March 27, 2018, 10:52:53 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 27, 2018, 10:22:42 AM

https://cointracking.info/
Your personal Profit / Loss Portfolio Monitor and Tax Tracker for all Digital Coins

thanks for link ... good services ;-)

Indeed, I have been using it for months!

Quote from: Elwar on March 27, 2018, 07:00:48 PM

Seems like there are big fast pushes down followed by a slow movement upwards followed by another big push down. It's that trickle upwards that shows what most of the market sentiment is. The big pushes down are either big sell offs or someone trying to make some money on a short.

Confirmed!

Quote from: Lontonbit on March 28, 2018, 01:07:40 PM

Non stop pump and dumps, the chart is unatural, just whales playing right now

Unfortunately, whales of the wrong type!

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 29, 2018, 03:13:14 PM

Quote from: Torque on March 29, 2018, 01:22:15 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run. Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.

Yep!!!! This was all pre-planned from a year ago and perhaps two years. There are whale manipulators who knew these details all along. I knew it. Roll Eyes

Plus all the nervous retirees that cant wait another year!

Quote from: Torque on March 29, 2018, 05:23:26 PM

.....
3. We are in a downtrend. Even positive news gets ignored.

Means the bottom is in and only a matter of time before price moves significantly higher. Grin

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 29, 2018, 06:25:17 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on March 29, 2018, 06:21:43 PM

Quote from: Torque on March 29, 2018, 05:23:26 PM

.....
3. We are in a downtrend. Even positive news gets ignored.

Means the bottom is in and only a matter of time before price moves significantly higher. Grin

It means we are in a downtrend, even positive news gets ignored. There's no telling where the floor is. If you go out dancing you better bring your own rug.

Are you back now? You said goodbye already, why dont you go away??? Roll Eyes

It seems like so many bears where sleeping while the bottom was set in with huge volume of capitulation on February 5th.

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 29, 2018, 06:34:42 PM

The bear is dying!

Quote from: Sitarow on March 29, 2018, 06:41:31 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 29, 2018, 06:34:42 PM

The bear has been tamed!

Quote from: nikauforest on March 29, 2018, 07:20:01 PM

I think we need to see some sort of capitulation before this bear is finished. Maybe we are getting close. I think we need some panic selling.
Prices are still up quite a bit from one year ago. ( to keep things in perspective )
On April 2, 2017
BTC = 1079.44
XMR = 21.22
etc..
I would prefer this bear does not drag on, so a panic flush, would set the stage for setting a base and a new bull. I hate the drip , drip , drip of down. It does feel a little like 2014.

As I said above:

Quote from: RayX12 on March 29, 2018, 06:31:20 PM

It seems like so many bears where sleeping while the bottom was set in with huge volume of capitulation on February 5th.

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 30, 2018, 01:08:29 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 30, 2018, 12:36:52 AM

Japan bans a couple exchanges, price on flyer plummets
https://i.imgur.com/oejzv2K.jpg

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 30, 2018, 01:43:55 AM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 30, 2018, 01:39:38 AM

https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/979530587936641025

*Gulp*

Some people never learn!

Quote from: mindrust on March 30, 2018, 12:39:41 PM

Resistance or not. Just bought more. Is there anybody here who thinks that we won't ever see that $20k price tag again?

Maybe 5 years later but it'll happen that's for sure.

Confirmed!

Quote from: Majormax on March 30, 2018, 01:07:13 PM

Quote from: Wekkel on March 30, 2018, 12:57:46 PM

No one is going to take this one away from us. Just relax and find out at what moment last year price broke through $6k.

There is nothing to worry about.

Agreed. Price broke to the upside above $6k just 5 short months ago. Taking a long view is better.

Relax... even if it gets back to $2k that doesn't negate the long bull case.

Agreed, time to relax. The train will eventually go up and up and up.

I think the manipulators are doing this to shake the weak hands before the next HUGE run.

Taking BTC away from these nobs can only last for so long!

If you are not sure then watch this and then make your own conclusions.
This guy is very very good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmJwbJ3MVg&feature=em-uploademail

Quote from: Majormax on March 30, 2018, 04:31:48 PM

Quote from: pera on March 30, 2018, 04:23:04 PM

Quote from: cofefeGandalf on March 30, 2018, 04:20:33 PM

I don't like how there's like no desperation at all, way to many hodlers. Thats not how capitulation is supposed to work. Roll Eyes

Because we still are months away from that point Grin

Could even be a year or two.

Still way too much hope, too much anger at the forecasts of lower prices.

At the final low, there will have been capitulation, resignation, and full acceptance of the bear market.

Bullshit... capitulation already happened..

As I said below:

Quote from: RayX12 on March 29, 2018, 06:31:20 PM

It seems like so many bears where sleeping while the bottom was set in with huge volume of capitulation on February 5th.

PUMP IT!

SOON...

Quote from: infofront on March 30, 2018, 05:01:45 PM

Quote from: tonyq on March 30, 2018, 04:56:51 PM

Why is it that hardly anybody here other than myself and a couple of others will admit the show's over?
I know it's hard to accept but it's true.
Dark forces pushed it up to its heights in order to be able to obliterate it.
Not just Bitcoin....all digital currencies.
You are seeing it with your own eyes but sill won't acknowledge it!
Huh

You must be new here.

Stole Merit?

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 30, 2018, 05:22:52 PM

I don�t understand why anybody would be selling now

Because there is so much FUD to manipulate the price lower while the smart money is stealing the candy!

Quote from: RayX12 on March 30, 2018, 03:19:16 PM

Taking BTC away from these nobs can only last for so long!

Did you fudsters see the buy wall at finex??

PUMP IT!

Lets help build the wall pussies! Shocked

[/img]

Quote from: Karartma1 on March 31, 2018, 06:54:57 AM

Sorry if this has been posted before but it was updated recently. Torque this is mostly for you and roach too.
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a+
Why do they do this?

Quote

It�s all about money control. Financial elite has recognized that Bitcoin and Crypto in general is a threat to their existence. What do powers do when they see anything as a threat or enemy? You got it, they try to destroy the enemy (by all means). Therefore, It is extremely important for the Financial-elite to stop bitcoin�s rise so their show can continue.

What do they do to stop the RISE of Bitcoin? They first let it rise to unimaginable height (20K first stop). Then they drop it to unimaginable lows. They will do this many times. They have trillions of dollar to maintain the show going, UNTIL the RETAIL investor gives up in frustration. What you are seeing since Mid-2017 is just the 1st inning of 9 innings Bitcoin game.

Bitcoin has been placed into Geopolitical chessboard since Mid-2017. Most of the Bitcoiners have NO IDEA how big this game is. Crypto space is just a pawn on this chessboard and there are elite-fingers moving these pawns (Gold, Silver and now Bitcoin).

Our only hope is to BTFD

.. and hodl craefuly

Quote from: RayX12 on March 21, 2018, 01:09:39 AM

The manipulation is comming to a temporary stop.

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

sTOP sELLING BTC tO bANKS

I do like the Keiser Report:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWoVh6xJ6g

And another stupid seller pushing hard.. WTF??

SOON!

The shot has been fired!

Quote from: windjc on April 01, 2018, 01:44:30 AM

Quote from: TERA2 on March 31, 2018, 10:06:05 PM

The level of bullishness in this thread is bizarre and concerning since I normally factor in a reverse sentiment indicator.

Really? I see a lot of despair.

Seems like I am the only Bull around here!

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: Majormax on April 01, 2018, 12:43:49 AM

Quote from: TERA2 on March 31, 2018, 10:06:05 PM

The level of bullishness in this thread is bizarre and concerning since I normally factor in a reverse sentiment indicator.

Quite true. Not bizarre at all when you consider it.

Sentiment has been bullish since the high of 19k, and will likely stay on the plus side (give or take ) until we reach the bear market lows of 2-3k.

It is worth monitoring just in case there is an unexpected change to widespread despair. Try posting positives and negatives in different messages. The responses to bearish posts are the most telling. (Like bullish, Dislike bearish).

The level of bearishness is unreal here starting with you!

Quote from: mike4001 on March 31, 2018, 09:32:14 PM

Quote from: rafanadal on March 31, 2018, 09:04:59 PM

7k isn't going to hold for long
support at 6k maybe ?

Nobody knows what's the bottom.

But I know we are going down and it's unlikely that we are going up again anytime soon.

Another mofo bear!

Quote from: bones261 on March 31, 2018, 09:01:39 PM

Quote from: DaRude on March 31, 2018, 08:55:59 PM

Hmm is the blood on the streets yet? Are these Gox coins being liquidated, MtGox coming back to Gox us one (last?) time

No Mt Gox coins moved lately. https://www.cryptoground.com/mtgox-cold-wallet-monitor/ They are still hanging over our head.

And again! Are you blind mofo!

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 01, 2018, 12:10:59 AM

Pretty fucking obvious a bear as well. mofo!

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on March 31, 2018, 04:11:54 PM

Bitcoin in Q1 2018:

Ayyyy more bears!!

Quote from: d_eddie on April 01, 2018, 11:30:19 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 07:51:50 AM

Quote from: windjc on April 01, 2018, 07:24:23 AM

While its obvious we are in a bear market,

Really? Bearwhales will run out of ammo soon and we'll climb back up to at least 5 digits. Then around June-July we'll see a new ATH and we'll moon in October-November or so. Cool

I think bearwhales play in fiat-settled assets (paper claims on actual bitcoin), as yefi recently suggested:

Quote from: yefi on April 01, 2018, 02:24:54 AM

Quote from: markj113 on March 31, 2018, 02:33:13 PM

When bankers run the world behind the scenes controlling the laws and the money printing presses they can own and control anything they wish too.

Bitcoin isn't a problem you can print your way out of. All it will achieve (or all it has achieved) is to make the believers richer and more resolute.

What they want to do is divert money away into paper claims on bitcoins - but they're going to face difficulty on that front.

If so, they won't "run out of ammo" as long as they can print their ammo.

That's why I think the only way to disarm them and let the market run as unencumbered as possible is to have bitcoin-settled derivatives (futures, options, whatever). If and when these become dominant in the derivative market, whales will need to get themselves lots of coin before playing any game, or they will need lots of lots of coins after playing a game and losing it.

(I'm not picking on you, serveria. On the contrary, your posts offered me the most inspiration for a reply.)

The only way to disarm them is to BTFD and HODLCRAEFUYLLY! Nothing else can shake them out or this game.

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on April 01, 2018, 11:54:08 AM

30 bitcoins = 1 lambo right now. Coinmarketcap's new feature:

ha ha
I thought you were kidding... It is real! Shocked

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 12:50:18 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on April 01, 2018, 11:30:19 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on April 01, 2018, 07:51:50 AM

Quote from: windjc on April 01, 2018, 07:24:23 AM

While its obvious we are in a bear market,

Really? Bearwhales will run out of ammo soon and we'll climb back up to at least 5 digits. Then around June-July we'll see a new ATH and we'll moon in October-November or so. Cool

I think bearwhales play in fiat-settled assets (paper claims on actual bitcoin), as yefi recently suggested:

Quote from: yefi on April 01, 2018, 02:24:54 AM

Quote from: markj113 on March 31, 2018, 02:33:13 PM

When bankers run the world behind the scenes controlling the laws and the money printing presses they can own and control anything they wish too.

The only way to disarm them is to BTFD and HODLCRAEFUYLLY! Nothing else can shake them out or this game.

Unfortunately it's not possible as there's still a lot of weak hands, panic sellers and most notably miners who need to sell regularly for a living....

There is always hope... We need to educate them!

Quote from: Ludwig Von on April 01, 2018, 12:50:38 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on April 01, 2018, 12:31:46 PM

Quote from: josephpogi on April 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM

please read this :
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

That article has moved to steemit

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@supercrypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-price-suppression-is-the-goal

It can easily be dismissed as tinfoil club drivel.

Or can it? Make up your own mind.

Didn 't the CME boss say something like : "We are going to tame Bitcoin", when asked about BTC volatillity ?

Dont sell your coins to the fucking bankers!

Quote from: fabiorem on April 01, 2018, 01:03:55 PM

Quote from: josephpogi on April 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM

please read this :
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Everybody will say here this is tin-foil hat conspiracy theory.

But central banks can print money out of tin air, provoking inflation, which is in turn masked by the media.

You can see that people are always FUDing about tether, saying that is illegal and immoral for Ifinex to print it without a dollar equivalent, like it was a stupendous crime againt humanity.

However, when its central banks doing exactly the same, nobody cares.

So such cartels can run free. Thats how they dumped the gold market. Remember that a hundred years ago, gold was a store of value, and used as a protection against financial tyranny.

Now they are doing the same with crypto.

They print money out of tin air, buy bitcoin, then sell at low prices. Since every financial crisis is planned, this is good for their goals.

But hey, its a conspiracy. Trust the state and the banks, lets FUD about the immoral tether.

Bitcoin has a secret weapon, it is call scarcity!

Take those coins away from the market and they will need to pump it again to shake the tree. Grin

transparency: I dont have single BTC on the market..

Quote from: Ludwig Von on April 01, 2018, 01:22:03 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 01:11:56 PM

Quote from: fabiorem on April 01, 2018, 01:03:55 PM

Quote from: josephpogi on April 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM

please read this :
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Bitcoin has a secret weapon, it is call scarcity!

Take those coins away from the market and they will need to pump it again to shake the tree. Grin

Yes but that is equally true for gold and to a lesser extend other PM's. And since their weapon of choice is paper, it is an unequal battle. I heard and read many many times that we should buy their paper gold and then redeem the real stuff in order to bring them down. Only, the few people who actually tried to have their contracts settled in physical, had a rather cold experience... . (So far at least). Now of course, why would someone want to have paper gold in any way ?

Not really, there is no deliverable on BTC futures. The only way to get BTC is in the BTC markets. They can battle with their fiat but we just need people to buy and HODL. Scarcity will win the game. It may take some time. Tongue

Quote from: tonyq on April 01, 2018, 02:32:20 PM

Quote from: tonyq on March 30, 2018, 04:56:51 PM

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@supercrypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-price-suppression-is-the-goal

Broken record!

DEAR GOD! Please allow me to take away point from fudsters!

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 01, 2018, 03:49:35 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 01, 2018, 03:39:08 PM

Bitcoin amazed everyone by going to heights that was thought to be impossible. Soon it will amaze everyone again, by dropping to levels that was thought to be impossible.

We�ll just have to wait & see, there�s going to be an absolute bottom at some point & a lot of amateur traders shorting are going to get burnt BADLY.

I�m HODLING until a year or so after the next halving & whilst it sucks (badly) seeing your net worth slump like this at least technically I�m losing nothing as xxx bitcoin�s are still xxx bitcoin�s.

I wouldn�t want to be trading this beast on margin�s now, a lot of people are going to get fucked in the ass.

Let me correct that last part:

... a lot of people are ~~going to~~ getting fucked in the ass.

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 01, 2018, 03:59:24 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 03:51:42 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 01, 2018, 03:49:35 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 01, 2018, 03:39:08 PM

Bitcoin amazed everyone by going to heights that was thought to be impossible. Soon it will amaze everyone again, by dropping to levels that was thought to be impossible.

Let me correct that last part:

... a lot of people are ~~going to~~ getting fucked in the ass.

Correcting AGAIN So Many still 10-15-20x there money true hodlers and new hodlers and new SMART money Will be rewarded in the longterm , my man be smart join the train and don�t think youre too late cause youre not

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: mfort312 on April 01, 2018, 04:07:19 PM

Quote from: darenyu on April 01, 2018, 02:26:28 PM

Breaking news, the UK has stated they are going to ban cryptocurrency.

UK Royal Family Secretly Buying Huge Quantities of Bitcoin

�Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth wishes to express her joy that His Royal Highness The Prince Of Wales has, at long last, found a way to make some filthy lucre.�

"After three centuries as banker to Britain�s rich and famous, from Charles Dickens to Queen Elizabeth II, Coutts, one of the world�s oldest banks, is trying to modernize. They are allegedly employing a team of agents to buy bitcoins from localbitcoin sellers around the globe. Often paying with sacks of cash, or trucks filled with gold bars."

Grin

Who taking candy away??

Quote from: Torque on April 01, 2018, 03:57:38 PM

All hail the MSM cartel! Completely unbiased media with your best interests!

https://twitter.com/SteveFranssen/status/980225137403314176

Funny assholes working for Soros!

Unpredictable bottom but I can smell this one!

For the gold bugs:

and this one:

Sound like you can avoid paying taxes on crypto if you move to Puerto Rico?

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/3/21/the_battle_for_paradise_naomi_klein

"But in addition to that, these twin laws, Act 20 and Act 22, mean that if you relocate to Puerto Rico for just half the year�so you can basically just skip winter, which I�m sure, to New Yorkers, sounds very appealing just about now�so you spend 183 days in Puerto Rico, and, in return, you don�t pay federal taxes. You don�t pay taxes on dividends. You don�t pay taxes�capital gains taxes on interest. And if you change the address of your financial services company or your cryptocurrency company, then you�d pay a 4 percent corporate tax rate. So, if you think about what�s just happened to U.S. tax law, where Trump has offered this huge tax reduction which brings the corporate tax rate to 20 percent, Puerto Rico is besting that with a 4 percent corporate tax rate. So they�re doing absolutely everything they can to lure high-net-worth individuals and these very mobile industries, that basically can do what they do from wherever they have access to data. And so, now there�s a big push to attract the cryptocurrency market to Puerto Rico."

A review of this article by Keiser report here:

https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/422841-episode-max-keiser-1208/

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:10:25 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 05:02:27 PM

For the gold bugs:

....

Biased nonsense.

Proof is in the price:

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 01, 2018, 05:33:30 PM

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:32:24 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 05:30:05 PM

Proof is in the price:

So you are comparing 1 bitcoin to 1 troy oz?

How did you come to those units of measurement.

Gold is often sold in grains, grams, imperial oz, troy oz, tolas, taels, kg, tonnes.

Direct comparison is impossible.

Try comparing total market cap and come back to me.

the price doesn't have to reflect reality

. Why would it?

Of course it does... no arguments here.

I am comparing price graph which shows a trend.. The trend is your friend. Grin

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:45:08 PM

Except I did not state that bitcoin hasn't performed well. I stated the chart you posted was factually incorrect and biased.

You are right there might be inconsistencies. There always is and depending on your perspective.

On the other hand it must be frustrating HODLING gold.

My dick is bigger than yours as well... ha ha ha
edit: sarcasm! Grin

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on April 01, 2018, 06:02:58 PM

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:55:35 PM

I bought a Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder with my bitcoin profits. I also stabilized my gains by selling near the top and buying just over 400oz of gold and nearly 1600oz silver.

Can you trade back and forth Lambos and phyzz? Looks like dead money. PM is a good insurance but that's all (provided that you have a safe safe).

He might have been better off selling his BTC for shitty Tether.. ha ha

Funny dick swinging contest. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Maicol792 on April 02, 2018, 03:33:18 PM

Now it's time to new ATH!!!

Sock (stock he he) market is looking weak, bonds looking weak, dollar weaker....

Now it would be a good time to BTFD

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:55:35 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on April 01, 2018, 05:50:53 PM

Quote from: markj113 on April 01, 2018, 05:45:08 PM

Except I did not state that bitcoin hasn't performed well. I stated the chart you posted was factually incorrect and biased.

You are right there might be inconsistencies. There always is and depending on your perspective.

On the other hand it must be frustrating HODLING gold.

You think so

I bought a Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder with my bitcoin profits. I also stabilized my gains by selling near the top and buying just over 400oz of gold and nearly 1600oz silver (also my Lapis blue 911 in the background Wink

)

How you enjoying watching your digits drop from $19k to $6k ?

Did you sell your gold and silver and exchange it back to Bitcoin yesterday?

I wonder who will buy that pile of scrap metal!

Bitcoin going up... he he

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 03, 2018, 11:47:07 AM

A fun fact:
A long time ago, this account was first created for trolling. The act was meant to show a parody of a stereotypical bitcoin fanatic, with the character being over the top and two dimensional in it's stupidity and greed.
The act failed because the audience here were actually unable to distinguish this over the top character from everyone else here.
Saying things like "Everyone who spreads WRONG information about bitcoin should be educated by force, so they wouldn't be this STUPID any longer. " weren't actually out of place and were rather popular with the local crowd. No one actually understood that they are being trolled with and cheered with sincerity. This made things creepy..

Yes many creepy people like you here.. of course mostly bears.. Grin

Quote from: bakasabo on April 03, 2018, 07:32:16 AM

10,000 BTC were moved from Nobuaki Kobayashi (MtGox) wallet. I suppose this action is responsible for today green market.
https://blockchain.info/address/16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk

Stay focused and do not get caught. Todays growth can not be counted for 100% as a market recovery.

BEARWHALE ALERT!! Boooooooooooooo! (Been there done that! Wink

)

Quote from: RayX12 on March 21, 2018, 01:09:39 AM

Smoke that fucking Mt Gox Bear Whale!

The manipulation is comming to a temporary stop.

GO BITCOIN GO

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 PM

HODLCRAEFULLY!!!!! Cheesy

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 03, 2018, 09:13:42 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 03, 2018, 09:12:26 PM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 03, 2018, 09:02:42 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 03, 2018, 08:59:11 PM

Quote from: Lontonbit on April 03, 2018, 08:15:27 PM

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on April 03, 2018, 08:04:11 PM

Quote from: mike4001 on April 03, 2018, 07:50:45 PM

The sellwalls at 7,5k are really strong.

For instance: I don't understand why someone would put up a sell order of 100 BTC at exactly 7,5k just to hold the price down.

Does he realize that also his own coins will not rise in value if he keeps the price down?

Bitcoin market will always be a little chaotic, because of the unknown.
For instance any drug dealer, who did tor market business during 2010-13 and got imprisoned for that, will probably have loads of coins left in cold wallets, waiting to be dumped. Autistic people, who live in their parents basements and have no conception of wealth, could now be bitcoin whales with a lot of weight on the market. That is why things don't often make logical sense here. Lots of people out there who are inexperienced in dealing with wealth.

Is this a joke? Lol

yes!

. o O ( imagination filling the rest of the scene )

driving a car with a girl wearing black and a white hat Shocked

Be careful what you wish!

Quote from: fabiorem on April 03, 2018, 09:43:13 PM

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on April 03, 2018, 08:12:09 PM

Finally FA.

We need more charts like that.

Yes baby I am selling some of my bitcoin after the next split!

HODLING AND HODLING TILL 2021!

"Every Day I am HODLING" song coming soon... Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CYCus8We20

Kiss

Looks like today The Bear is ...

And after ..

But SOOOOON....

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 06, 2018, 09:33:46 AM

Quote from: Alexander_Z on April 06, 2018, 09:26:37 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 06, 2018, 08:28:15 AM

Ferox tenator - hodler

Is there further classification of hodlers into subspecies? Wink

eg:

Ferox Tenator Nervosa
Ferox Tenator Zennist
Ferox Tenator Testicular-Grande
Ferox Tenator Capitulatos
Ferox Tenator Nihilismos

?

Edit: I suck at this whole latin/taxonomy thing. You guys get the idea. Not deleting otherwise nonsense-post.

Forgot Tenators Desperate-Dumping-Retirees Grin

Quote from: infofront on April 06, 2018, 02:00:40 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 06, 2018, 04:38:39 AM

ha ha... all good things like wine and men get better with age!

The more racist commentaries flow the lower Bitcoin goes.. Cry

Quote from: rafanadal on April 06, 2018, 04:41:27 PM

Maybe Soros would pump the price back to 20k

Go Soros Grin

Would be nice to see this train move. i dont care who pumps but pleeeeeeeeaaaassssseeeee!

PUMP IT!

Quote from: jojo69 on April 06, 2018, 09:12:16 PM

Too many of those people make up this market. sigh! Cry

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 06, 2018, 10:54:47 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on April 06, 2018, 10:52:54 PM

Quote from: mfort312 on April 06, 2018, 09:50:09 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on April 06, 2018, 08:43:25 PM

Quote from: mfort312 on April 06, 2018, 06:52:25 PM

.....................

....................

...................

.................

cough cough.. what does all this blabber had to do with Bitcoin?

PUMP IT!!!!

This thread is like:

fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud
fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud
fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud
fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud fud
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD
............................................................................... .................
.........................................................................

JUST PUMP IT!

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 08, 2018, 09:12:04 AM

very quick short list for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only when breaking 12288 dollar price..... almost same rules as the list before just a winning date AND
.15 BTC for correct date
only accounts with minimum 5 Merit and 20 activity

Good day good sir..
Please April 30th if open.
And thanks for the opportunity to be rich again! Grin

Quote from: flynn on April 08, 2018, 02:39:50 PM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 08, 2018, 01:28:02 PM

#MBGA !!!

Make Belgium Great Again ?

Make Bitcoooonnnnnneeeeeeccccttttttt Great Again? Shocked

Why Why Why ... so much manipulation? Shocked

Fuck that Bear! Grin

PUMP IT!

SOON...

Why do such stupid and greedy people have so much Bitcoin in their hands.
Take it away if you can! I am hodling mine.. Angry

Quote from: Searing on April 26, 2018, 10:25:26 PM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 26, 2018, 10:21:04 PM

Must be time to move some more Gox coins

Yeah, this is just about the time the mt. gox trustee 'panic dumps' like a 12-year-old child.....wait for it.....

No, I suspect his balls are tied by now. Shocked

Other big players are playing with it now, but it looks that the bulls continue to fuck the bears.

Quote from: bitserve on May 05, 2018, 12:15:50 PM

OBSERVING: Finally a serious WALL... 1300BTC sell wall on Bitfinex @9888

The manipulation is back. Big bear and four little cubs at work here. hmmmm... It could be a tasty short squeeze. Market owners are mouthwatering.. Shocked

wtf?? walls eaten while typing??? Go Bitcoin Go.
Rockets ignite!

Quote from: bitserve on May 05, 2018, 12:22:37 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 05, 2018, 12:21:17 PM

Quote from: bitserve on May 05, 2018, 12:15:50 PM

OBSERVING: Finally a serious WALL... 1300BTC sell wall on Bitfinex @9888

The manipulation is back. Big bear and four little cubs at work here. hmmmm... It could be a tasty short squeeze. Market owners are mouthwatering.. Shocked

It was eaten (not pulled)... only 1327BTC to $10K on Bitfinex now.

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 05, 2018, 04:43:36 PM

.....

Finally a perfect explanation to why I love farting!
Now my existence is more meaningful and delightful!
fart! fart! fart!
Grin

Quote from: mike4001 on May 06, 2018, 06:13:22 AM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 06, 2018, 12:15:43 AM

I never understood why there is resistance? I dont get it, can somebody explain? 10k will break. Why are people building walls to hold it sub 10k as long as possible?

I never understood this too why people are selling during a bull run.

But the thing is

1) There are people who set a goal. "I bought at XX and will sell everything when it reaches 10.000"
2) Their are traders who sell and hope to crash the price by a few % and then buy back so they ultimately have more BTC
3) Wales make up sell walls (the 200 / 300 / 400 BTC walls you see) to keep the price below a certain level so they can buy all their BTC below a certain price. Once they are done they mostly lift their sell wall.

There are probably more reasons :-)

Whales hold Bitcoin down while they amass much profit in ALTS. Wink

Quote from: Ibian on May 06, 2018, 08:29:33 PM

Quote from: mindrust on May 06, 2018, 06:29:23 PM

Quote from: motoprose on May 06, 2018, 05:43:23 PM

Doesn't anyone else think Elon Musk's twitter was hacked during that spat of them saying "Change your passwords!" due to their own breach of the database of all their 450 million user accounts?
https://cryptopotato.com/elon-musk-will-bring-humans-to-mars-and-cryptocurrencies-to-the-moon/

Why would a ceo of a billion dollar company use "u" in his tweets?

The same reason why USA has Trump as the president.

Interesting times.

***Trump is still 100 times better than Shillary***

Trump is hilarious. Poor Kimmy must be so confused. Here is this crazy american, threatening nuclear war over twitter. And what does that result in? Peace between the north and south. It's like something out of a comedy.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 06, 2018, 08:12:13 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 06, 2018, 12:12:03 PM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 06, 2018, 06:13:22 AM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 06, 2018, 12:15:43 AM

I never understood why there is resistance? I dont get it, can somebody explain? 10k will break. Why are people building walls to hold it sub 10k as long as possible?

Whales hold Bitcoin down while they amass much profit in ALTS. Wink

agreed

Double exactly!! Grin

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 06, 2018, 06:02:27 PM

Triple exactly!

Quote from: Ibian on May 07, 2018, 01:22:27 AM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 07, 2018, 01:20:48 AM

Quote from: Ivor Biggun on May 07, 2018, 12:04:19 AM

Quote from: rafanadal on May 06, 2018, 11:59:52 PM

Why is btrash doing so well ?

Probably because of the upcoming fork.
...

Quote

Proponents are looking forward to a 32 MB block size increase and op-code additions that could bring ethereum-like characteristics to the BCH network.

Jesus Titty-Fucking Christ.

The cancer that is BCash cannot die soon enough, along with Roger Ver.

Bigger blocks is a good thing. The problem is that they are being deceptive cunts. If we had chosen big blocks and they had chosen segwit, we would still think the same thing about them, and for the same reason. And be applauding ourselves for making the correct choice.

It's the people, not the tech.

Quote from: infofront on May 07, 2018, 05:36:38 AM

Quote from: realr0ach on May 07, 2018, 04:05:56 AM

Another day, another representative of the Jew World Order trying to disarm the population while flooding them with rapefugees that want to murder them (The Kalergi Plan):

That might be the stupidest tweet I've ever seen from a world leader. That even includes Trump's tweets.

Second one!!

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 07, 2018, 07:40:40 AM

Don't worry, Vitalik, my son, we have Kompromat on all those SEC noobs.
Set buy orders all the way down.
Yes, all cryptos.

and... again!!! Grin

Last call for cheap coins!

Maybe is Roger Ver despair!

Whoever it is, it will pass soon!

Buy or Hodl!

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on May 11, 2018, 12:25:39 PM

Where are all the cheerleaders? C'mon, go Bitcoin go Huh

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 11, 2018, 12:57:18 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 11, 2018, 12:40:26 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 11, 2018, 12:29:59 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on May 11, 2018, 12:25:39 PM

Where are all the cheerleaders? C'mon, go Bitcoin go Huh

I�d stick my Ledger Nano in her USB slot any day.

She'd give you a nasty virus and take all your coins.

Quote from: jojo69 on May 13, 2018, 04:01:51 AM

It's funny guys.

My first "computer game" experience;

My dad brought a state of the art HP calculator home from work. This thing could read (and write) programs on small, like 10mmx40mm mag strips. you would feed the strip into a slot in one side and little rubberized feed wheels would spin up and spit it through and out the other side.

One of the program strips included when the unit was delivered was a "moon lander" game. It was turn based. It would briefly display your speed, range to the surface, and remaining fuel, then you would be prompted for a fuel burn input.

Yes, I did land it that night.

Yes...I am old.

That was my first programmable super calculator! I loved it but it was ti-59

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 16, 2018, 06:18:34 PM

Quote from: infofront on May 16, 2018, 06:14:43 PM

By Bitcoin, I mean BCH - the real Bitcoin. Does that change your answer?

Paging @Theymos.

Requesting new thread manager.

infofront has drunk deep of the kool-aid.

You Have My Sword, And My Bow, And My Axe...

/s

people going crazy indeed.. fuck!

Quote from: nanobtc on May 18, 2018, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: jojo69 on May 18, 2018, 03:01:32 AM

I got a six pack of beer...and it's titty squeezing time

Zappa, "Titties and Beer"!

"man, you can't fool me...you ain't that bad...
I mean you shoulda seen some of the souls i had...
Why there was milhous nixon 'n agnew, too...
'n both of those suckers was worse 'n you..."

Ha ha... I remember those good-old college days.
Titties and Beer!
Rejoice yourselves bitcoiners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvepB7uYoAo
Grin

Quote from: Torque on May 21, 2018, 12:18:41 PM

Quote from: Totscha on May 21, 2018, 07:52:36 AM

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on May 21, 2018, 04:24:34 AM

Quote from: Torque on May 21, 2018, 12:05:33 AM

Now can we get on with doing the same for all the mETH heads and all the ICO shitcoin lovers?

The only ICO that isn't for a shitcoin is the HoweyCoins ICO that's endorsed by theymos and all the mods. It's officially registered with the U.S. government and SEC compliant. You are GUARANTEED PROFIT from your investment from it.

Theymos himself made its announcement thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.0

Invest all your Bitcoins in it, and if you don't have any money to invest get a huge loan.

This is the bounty thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4029040.0

Theymos GUARANTEES PROFIT from it.

Et tu, Theymos?

This is a helpful campaign.
https://www.investor.gov/howeycoins

However the thing that bothers me, is that even if an ICO has none of the things listed on that page it is STILL a scam. Period. It doesn't matter what the devs claim, or what the "parameters" are. Trying to differentiate one from another doesn't matter. All ICOs are scams.

Penny stocks are complete scams endorsed by the SEC. They are fraud. So are ICOs. Same thing with different name.

Strange! Is Theymos account stolen? Has he done this kind of shit before? Is this the biggest scam in crypto? WTF?

Quote from: Torque on May 21, 2018, 12:54:06 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 21, 2018, 12:48:37 PM

Strange! Is Theymos account stolen? Has he done this kind of shit before? Is this the biggest scam in crypto? WTF?

Ha ha.. I clicked on the Buy Coins Now button and takes you to the Securities and Exchange site (SEC) telling you all about scams!
Good one guys!
Nice trolling!

My prediction as always.. buy now thank me later.
If you are a short time trader..
Buy now sell later!
Wink

Quote from: LoyceV on May 24, 2018, 12:48:00 PM

Quote

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/doj-launches-criminal-probe-bitcoin-market-manipulation

I quote: "Studies have shown that 1,000 people own 40% of the bitcoin market."
They can probably state the same about most stocks.

Unfortunately most of them are self serving dickheads (McAfee - Roger Ver) and bearwhales (Nobuaki Kobayashi) like in the stock market. Cry

Quote from: Torque on May 24, 2018, 06:39:03 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 24, 2018, 05:57:25 PM

We don't need to read the charts to know when to buy the dip because Bittard shows up with diarrhea of the fingers every time!

And markj113 shows up to brag about the gold and lambos that he claims to own but can't prove it. Roll Eyes

"When trolls on parade, buy the fucking dip."

^^^^
This 100% agree.. Grin

markj113 only brags about gold when BTC is crashing.. good time to buy. Wink

Quote from: RayX12 on April 12, 2018, 12:15:59 PM

Fuck that Bear! Grin

PUMP IT!

SOON...

Time to pump it boys!

Quote from: Elwar on May 28, 2018, 12:09:12 PM

Just walked outside...

blood

all over the streets

help!

No blood here, just whales doing what they do best!

Everybody waiting for the whales to explode.

Quote from: Rsiyz on May 30, 2018, 03:58:32 PM

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y
"Existencial crisis in eu" Cheesy

La or koreatown .. yes there is Grin

Bitcoin is the answer.
Grab the last few cheap BTC before the next moon rise.

FUCK OFF WHALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Torque on May 31, 2018, 12:17:32 PM

Quote from: sirazimuth on May 31, 2018, 12:02:59 PM

I wonder if they accept bitcoin?....

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hospital-launches-rehab-clinic-to-treat-cryptocurrency-addiction-2018-05-29

Fucking MSM, such targeting and FUD.

So where are all the clinics treating the penny stock trading addiction all these past couple of decades?

SMH

Cryptohodlers have bitcoin, that is the difference. Grin

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 31, 2018, 10:48:18 AM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 30, 2018, 04:06:12 PM

Quote from: Rsiyz on May 30, 2018, 03:58:32 PM

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y
"Existencial crisis in eu" Cheesy

La or koreatown .. yes there is Grin

Bitcoin is the answer.
Grab the last few cheap BTC before the next moon rise.

+Merits

Definitely worth a second look! Grin

Why do all experts, whales and dickheads insist that capitulation has not occurred and cry, beg, scream, insist for lower prices?

I saw capitulation on Feb 5th!

Quote from: gentlemand on May 31, 2018, 06:35:59 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on May 31, 2018, 04:48:54 PM

Why do all experts, whales and dickheads insist that capitulation has not occurred and cry, beg, scream, insist for lower prices?

I saw capitulation on Feb 5th!

True capitulation about 8 bleedin' weeks from an all time high? Don't be daffy.

Here you have it. Another dickhead!

Quote from: Karartma1 on June 04, 2018, 06:42:21 PM

So it goes Grin

Epic Bart Moon-pattern! A true sign that whales try (and do) manipulated the market.
+WOs merit

Quote from: Torque on June 05, 2018, 12:12:55 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on June 04, 2018, 10:09:10 PM

Quote from: Karartma1 on June 04, 2018, 10:07:17 PM

@Anon136
That is to me an accurate chart on price manipulation which is definitely worth to be mentioned here on the WO. The Bart Simpson pattern became a thing and, trust me, I would love if it would cease.
So it goes now, there is not much to do but hey, after the third Bart pattern I started to take some profit and bought a bit more on the way down.
If they play, I will do that too.

To what do you attribute it? I mean more specifically than just "manipulation" generally.

Looking at that so-called "Bart Simpson" chart pattern, I don't really see the mystery. That is exactly what a trading market pattern would look like if you have:

a) major sideways wash trading
b) the float on exchanges being really thin
c) only one or a few whale market participants using large margin
d) volume being led by one or only a few exchanges

Which is the environment we are in right now. The whale is ready to rek anyone who takes up a sizable position in either direction. It could be the exchange owners themselves.

Agree! Exchange owners are some of the largest and dirties whales around; they are more like Killer Whales acting solely on profit gouging!

Quote from: fabiorem on June 05, 2018, 01:24:55 PM

Quote from: infofront on June 05, 2018, 01:44:16 AM

Bitcoin, Futures, and the Ghost of Gold A forecast for bitcoin if it follows the post-futures cycle of gold.

+1WOmerit. Good article.

I always believed futures would kill bitcoin, and the graphs proved it, even with the bear market being inevitable.

But this article refutes it very well. Since bitcoin moves faster than gold, we should not worry too much.

Very bullish indeed!

Looking at these graphs makes me think that BTC is ON TRACK TO MOON LANDING as long as hashrate continues to climb.

Hashrate vs Price last 12 months (linear scale):

Hashrate vs Price all time (log scale):

The IMF is positive on crypto! Shocked

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2018/06/central-bank-monetary-policy-and-cryptocurrencies/he.htm

credits to: Ivan on Tech

Quote from: mfort312 on June 10, 2018, 06:23:23 AM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on June 10, 2018, 02:16:23 AM

Quote from: jadenunderhill on June 10, 2018, 01:57:43 AM

I'm really thinking of quitting. Too tired of this. if 11K will ever happen i will quit(

Still kicking my ass for not dumping $1M @ $11.5k on the last bounce Sad

At what point will you be kicking your ass for not reinvesting the millions you already cashed out back into Bitcoin?

Do you have that much more faith in fiat and your managed stock portfolio over Bitcoin these next few years?

Are trade wars and nationalism getting you harder than choo-choos and rocket ships ever did?

Grin

Bitcoin hashrate still climbing.

Bitcoin price still up +150% from 1 year ago.

SEC still being hammered with Bitcoin ETF applications.

Fidelity, Goldman, JP Morgan still proceeding with Bitcoin trading options.

The Commissioner of the US CFTC still calling Bitcoin an unstoppable technological revolution and modern miracle.

Bitcoin is dead. Long live Bitcoin!

+2 WO-merit deserved!
Agreed!! And this goes to all of you retired BTC hodlers that keep holding this train down for pure love of FIAT! Cry

All this dump and doomsday talk just because another exchange gets hacked.
Sigh!

Go Bitcoin Go!

https://ethereumworldnews.com/cryptos-dump-as-korean-exchange-coinrail-gets-hacked/

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 10, 2018, 06:18:50 PM

Where's the bottom?

This looks like the perfect bottom.
Buy Buy Buy Kiss

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 10, 2018, 07:27:06 PM

Do whales know something we dont? Just read somewhere a whale moved 90k coins to exchanges.

Damm whales!

Quote from: infofront on June 10, 2018, 11:23:41 PM

Hopefully, a triple bottom will brighten everyone's day.

Absolutely! Loving the bottoms.. running out of cash.

Quote from: vroom on June 11, 2018, 08:36:30 AM

+1WOsmerit
The funny truth!

Quote from: Last of the V8s on June 11, 2018, 05:58:02 PM

You missed the caption!

PUMP IT!

Grin

The Igor Bogdanoff reverse Pattern:

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 11, 2018, 08:56:22 PM

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on June 11, 2018, 08:33:06 PM

A (big) jump from here will make bitcoin have a confirmed:

-three rivers bottom
-giant diamond bottom
-triple bottom

...and bears will have wet-pants bottom

Let�s hope so because I�m starting to get a little concerned atm

Just wait a year or two and we will be millionaires like the first hodlers.
Until then enjoy the ride!
Go Bitcoin Go!

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on June 11, 2018, 10:09:06 PM

Quote from: European Central Bank on June 11, 2018, 09:22:57 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 11, 2018, 08:56:22 PM

Let�s hope so because I�m starting to get a little concerned atm

why? 20 grand was just as dumb an overshoot as 2013 but maybe less crooked, though that may not be a dead cert yet. $3-5k is more than possible or lower and that would be pretty normal based on previous behavior. i'd only get concerned if it went sub $1000.

Screw that noise, Jack! You should be more salty. This is a bloody epic tragedy of epic proportions.

Exaggeration.. only a healthy correction. Grin

Quote from: mfort312 on June 11, 2018, 10:32:01 PM

Quote from: Toxic2040 on June 11, 2018, 08:42:04 PM

MSM is clueless...there is no way yesterdays correction was caused by one tiny tiny exchange getting brute forced... sorry..I dont buy it. That would be like claiming it was caused by Tone's and Doug's bet. Nope... still not buying it.

Perhaps longs were getting out of control...and the market had to slam the door on some of them is one opinion. Some are saying its just a general technical correction..that the market was oversold. As in most things its usually a combination of events. Personal I think its was mostly due to panic selling over the CTFC news of a price manipulation probe coinciding with a general correction. Momentum gathers quickly once the tides shift.

For a little Straight Outta My Ass Non-TA:

If you ignore the obviously manipulated Bart action (anything near-vertical on a 4 hr chart) the majority of background action appears surprisingly and overwhelmingly bullish. It's punctuated by relatively brief and steep bearish intervals.

To me, the Bart action stinks to high heaven of whales still trying to cash out gracefully via OTC but being absolutely played by their OTC brokers. At the moment, whales are selling faster than the OTC market can absorb, leading to an overall downtrend, or at least sideways equilibrium. At some point, whalebears will run out of ammunition and the background uptrend will once again dominate.

I suspect it's Wall St and institutions slurping up most of the whale poop. Several regulated brokers (Fidelity, Goldman, JP Morgan, etc) are on the brink of offering their own Bitcoin exchanges, and are probably in bed with the OTC brokers, accumulating, accumulating, accumulating. Of course, they're getting played by their OTC intermediaries, too, resulting in reverse Bart action and uptrends. I wouldn't be surprised if it's these Wall St guys crying foul in the first place and putting pressure on the CFTC to investigate unregulated OTC/futures manipulation and level the playing field before the flood gates open. This is causing further whale and OTC broker panic to hurry up and unload before regulators shine a light and scatter the roaches in their corner, too.

Why OTC in the first place? Besides avoiding thinly traded exchange slippage, OTC brokers don't typically report anything to the IRS or other tax authorities. I suspect KYC/AML is much more lax as well, as long as you got the coin to play. Privacy comes at a price, though, and it's name is manipulation.

Meanwhile, small fry retail guys are quietly accumulating, driving the bullish background action we see on the charts.

Straight Outta My Ass

4 hr candles

Beautiful Out of Your Ass TA
Confirmed

Confirmed!

Matters little what I think.
Matters most what whales do!
Hodl for a few years is all I can do!
Cry

Fucking Dumping Whales.. You are the worst SCUM in the whole world!

BUY BUY BUY

Go Bitcoin Go!

Quote from: FractalUniverse on June 12, 2018, 08:15:24 PM

judging from the posts on last 2 pages the bottom must be close. at least temporary Cheesy

Maybe not! Not enough blood and exploding whales.

Quote from: RayX12 on May 31, 2018, 04:48:54 PM

Why do all experts, whales and dickheads insist that capitulation has not occurred and cry, beg, scream, insist for lower prices?

I saw capitulation on Feb 5th!

Every fucking whale is trying to prove me wrong! Unfortunately the analyst continue to believe that capitulation on Feb 5th was too early.
Only time will tell!

Quote from: bitserve on June 13, 2018, 03:08:55 PM

Hodling is depressing in times like this. I didn't feel it hurt so badly in 2014 but probably it is because I hadn't that much ~~money~~ paper profits at stake... Also moving onto other things and not checking the price as I did during that bear market probably helped in comparison.

......

Agreed but if it goes much lower than this I will be buying a lot more BTC by taking a huge loan.... salivating! Grin

Someone said:

Be greedy when others are fearful!

Buy Buy Buy Bitcoin.

Quote from: mfort312 on June 14, 2018, 04:13:32 PM

$6000 seems to be established as a fair bargain basement price by both bulls and bears and even miners apparently. We have achieved equilibrium price discovery, not just once, but like 5 times since October of last year, give or take $500.

Anything below the bears generally agree is too greedy and the bulls consider a steal.

But there is some serious Grade A manipulation going on. FUD is being slung around like monkey poop fresh outta Bill Gates and Warren Buffett's decrepit simian asses. Sometimes it sticks, sending Korean tourists, YouTuber potato heads, and Tweaking Twitterites screaming for the exits.

The most damage this FUD has done since (dare I say it?) the "capitulation" on Feb 5 is 5-10% intraday trading. Around $500-600 intraday swings at most.

Prior to Feb 5, we were seeing intraday swings as high as 30%. We're talking like $4500 in one day! Many days were well over 10%, equating to at least $1000 at the time. It's a freaking snooze fest in comparison.

So far, the FUDsters have tried squirting manipulation FUD, sharting Tether FUD, and are currently honking for clearance while constipated with a big ol' meal of regulation FUD. Mt Gox has been hotboxing us with silent but deadly FUD for months now, but most of our olfactory bulbs have long since burned out. Hacked exchange FUD is the most regular of all, sustained by a healthy diet of shyster/ignoranus FUDfiber(tm).

As much as everyone is watching, waiting, hoping for a clear sign from Satoshi himself "THIS IS THE BOTTOM", the truth is the FUDsters have run out of effective FUD. Even Roger Ver himself, the king of bullshit, a giant walking colon, can only shit so much, right?

What more can the bears possibly fling at us? Am I missing some super potent 10x epic hangover evacuate the building and whatever you do don't light that match FUD? Something that would truly shake hodlers to their very core that we haven't already seen a dozen times?

It's a fucking zoo out there this summer, peeps. Watch out for the monkey poop.

+1WOsmerit

I think the big Mt Gox Bear-Whale and friends caused the 10-30% spikes.

Now we have smaller bear-whales splashing around.

Soon the bulls will take over.

Quote from: vortex1878 on June 14, 2018, 04:58:57 PM

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-announces-ether-not-security-162658147.html

The big news of the moment?? wtf pump those fucking coins Grin

Old news?

Quote from: Vin on June 18, 2018, 09:05:16 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on June 18, 2018, 09:00:28 PM

Good memories! Grin

Just wait a bit

Or this one! Grin

Looks like another great day to enjoy a nice bottom:

Quote from: Kylapoiss on June 22, 2018, 03:57:14 PM

Quote from: rafanadal on June 22, 2018, 03:50:00 PM

Quote from: Lontonbit on June 22, 2018, 03:27:36 PM

Quote from: blacky90 on June 22, 2018, 03:26:58 PM

is this the end?

Nope it�s the beginning

The begining of the end ?

The beginning of a trend, bitcoin trend. Don't worry about the price, 1BTC is still 1BTC. And it still will be worth afckinglot by 2025 (a random year from the future), at least when comparing to FIAT.

Not the end.
Not the beginning of the end.
Not the beginning of a trend.

Just a temporary bottom!

Good volume means it is a good bottom..

(‿ˠ‿)

Num Nums:

Whale and shark eaters wanted.

Hard to believe but here we are testing that February 5th bottom.

It only confirms the influence of the human factors "fear and greed" in the market cycle.

Original link with the full gif effect: https://steemitimages.com/DQmPNGT2W6hkD5eEh4c7CMGEEHq2siCLSke75g11YTfEGL5/Bitcoin-Market-Cycle.gif

Original link with the full gif effect again: https://steemitimages.com/DQmVFWjPn27Zz7pR6JkapSLg5z49wiPQNMX2CaiK9xSV2zQ/btc_now_vs_market_cycles.gif

Quote from: kalehon on June 25, 2018, 04:29:12 PM

Maybe the bullrun is starting Grin

Long you a long time!
"(�‿�)"

Quote from: kalehon on June 26, 2018, 06:02:19 PM

It�s a Bubble!

Quote from: infofront on June 28, 2018, 06:30:37 PM

- Non-segwit transactions require 51% of the hashpower and a private key to steal. Segwit transactions just require 51% of the hashpower.

You statement is very confusing since you are taking about two things: a) 51% attack and b) stealing coins.
How can you steal coins without private keys on Bitcoin? What kind of bull shit is this?
Please enlighten me!

Nobody is going to steal my coins, they are on a Bitcoin address. so fuck you all who continue to FUD about nothing but theories of 51% attack and making Bitcoin worthless.
I sense there is an effort to tank the price to lower lows so they can fill they bags.

This thread needs a FORK.

Call it FUD FUCK-HEAD THREAD!

What is the current TPS for LN?

Quote from: serveria.com on July 02, 2018, 03:40:30 PM

Baaaaammm big green dildo up fat bear ass Cheesy

Take it you mother fucking bear(s)!

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 03, 2018, 11:18:19 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XORDEX-RrAI

feed from Breaking Bitcoin

loos therefrom

Please let me have this paper to clean the left-over shit in my ass!

Quote from: vroom on July 04, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

Quote from: mudbone on July 04, 2018, 07:30:56 PM

Everything in moderation. This forum is no longer safe for work. Congrats. Again.

bitcoin is NSWF. it makes you retire sooner.

sooner, rather than later.

Looks like the last dump, the last four hours, has been met by a large buyer.

Go Bitcoin Go!

Nice rounding bottoms everywhere!

Ohhhhhhhhh how sweet! I took my daughter to the zoo and missed this other animal action!

You fucking bears (including Tone Vays) had this one coming for a long time!

Quote from: Ibian on July 17, 2018, 10:40:12 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on July 17, 2018, 10:36:53 PM

Ohhhhhhhhh how sweet! I took my daughter to the zoo and missed this other animal action!

You fucking bears (including Tone Vays) had this one coming for a long time!

Google "fearless girl rule 34" at your peril.

OMG! Is that what happens next to the poor fearless wallstreet girl? Ouch!

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 19, 2018, 05:01:49 PM

Quote from: V1lpu on July 19, 2018, 04:55:43 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 19, 2018, 04:36:13 PM

http://www.kitco.com/news/2018-07-18/-130-Billion-Worth-Of-Gold-Found-On-Sunken-Russian-Warship.html

�that is believed to contain 200 tons of gold bullion and coins, equivalent to $130 billion, according to The Daily Telegraph�.

Are you lot still butthurt that the Japs sunk both your navies during your little war?

Whether this wreck turns out fruitful or not, take it as an example of what gold is out there.

Too much gold will sink any boat. Shocked

Buy Bitcoin instead Grin

Interesting little project to help in Venezuela with crypto.
I have contributed.

https://medium.com/@josiah_digibyte/were-going-back-to-venezuela-and-we-need-your-help-6699e8b6d2bd

p.s. is there such a project with BTC?

Quote from: Paashaas on July 27, 2018, 03:52:06 AM

There will be a new bull run with ore without the ETF's.

The (SEC) govt. officials know it! They are just trying to hold the rocket down while they wait for their Coinbase account to accept their huge inflated (worthless) cash deposits.

Just my guess here.
Turkey lira financial crash is saving BTC from a deeeeeeep crash.
Short squeeze incoming?

And soon other currencies will collapse. BTC can play the savior role worldwide? Shocked

Are you afraid that your currency will collapse soon?

Buy BTC and save your net worth!

Quote from: Icygreen on September 19, 2018, 07:32:28 PM

Watching the volume on that new toy! Rekt all over the place on bitmex.

Those idiots at Bitmex never learn.. wtf?

Quote from: mfort312 on September 19, 2018, 08:02:28 PM

We've got a pulse on the EKG!

Its is alive or it is manipulated... the later probably. so sad!

Quote from: empowering on December 07, 2018, 04:58:45 PM

Quote from: criptix on December 07, 2018, 04:54:43 PM

Quote from: empowering on December 07, 2018, 04:53:54 PM

When squeeze ? Wink

3200

yah man I was just playing..

I see it somewhere between here - $3200 / 200 weekly MA and $2800 for maximum pain.

Squeeze the longs then squeeze the shorts

This dude is cleaning the table and eating our lunch!

This looking like coordinated effort wallstreet + Banks + Roger Ver to dump and dump to oblivion. Cry

But worry not!
BTC is here to stay. Buy now and buy more later. Grin

Lets see.... hmmmm.

Who has lots of BTC?
hmmmmm..
Who hates BTC?
hmmmmm..
Who would benefit if BTC crashes?
hmmmmm..

Think hard!

Conclusions anyone?

Samsung to the rescue:

"After hearing about the trademarks for Samsung�s blockchain and cryptocurrency software, we decided to dig around a little deeper. We can confirm that the company is indeed developing one and that it may be launched with the Galaxy S10."

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/12/14/crypto-and-blockchain-smartphones-will-be-the-next-big-thing/

Quote from: gembitz on December 15, 2018, 02:57:45 AM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 15, 2018, 02:53:05 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 14, 2018, 10:52:01 PM

My gf of 10 years (we are early 30�s - got together young) is currently in the phase of telling me that I ruined �our lives by not selling when it was $19,000�.

Tell her you intend to ruin your lives by not selling at $250k either.

magic beans :-D weeeeee

I hope this market kicks you in the balls!

weeeeeeee

Quote from: RayX12 on December 14, 2018, 01:20:15 PM

I am looking forward to this phone.. Hopefully better than Nano Ledger. Boom!

Quote from: RayX12 on December 15, 2018, 03:04:08 AM

Quote from: gembitz on December 15, 2018, 02:57:45 AM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 15, 2018, 02:53:05 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 14, 2018, 10:52:01 PM

My gf of 10 years (we are early 30�s - got together young) is currently in the phase of telling me that I ruined �our lives by not selling when it was $19,000�.

Tell her you intend to ruin your lives by not selling at $250k either.

magic beans :-D weeeeee

I hope this market kicks you in the balls!

weeeeeeee

My wish has been granted! Xmas is here Grin

Quote from: Kylapoiss on December 26, 2018, 10:49:32 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 26, 2018, 10:45:58 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 26, 2018, 10:40:02 AM

dun dun duh

itshappening.fuck

no, good on you mic. go get'em

haha

just you guys are very generous to me.....

BoB was very very generous yesterday (most of the times very generous)

THX again WO brother Cheesy

You do collect them in an amazing pace, good on you mate!

No 1 spot by summer 2019?

Conratulations micgoossens, well deserved!

The 2000 BTC buy wall is on. WO games are abundant today.

Any millionaire igniting BTC fireworks tonight?

Happy new year to all!

Quote from: Majormax on January 01, 2019, 12:45:30 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on January 01, 2019, 11:48:06 AM

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on January 01, 2019, 06:50:33 AM

Happy New Years!!!

A new year is here with a new bull market to go with it. Cheesy

We aren't stopping till 100k minimum. Shocked

This is a 100 percent confirmed fact by 11 intelligence agencies. Cool

If you don't believe it you are a denier and society will shun you. Cry

Bottom shorters this will be the worst year of your life. Kiss

Now that sounds like the perfect 2019 Cheesy

Realistically though I see $8,000 - $10,000 as the high for 2019, love to be proved wrong tgough.

Happy New Year.

I personally see the top for 2019 as around $5k, and the bottom around $2k, but I wouldn't like to say which comes first.

My wish for 2019 is that you are wrong!
12k for me.
Moon BTC moon very soon.
Prosperous 2019 to all.

Quote from: empowering on January 01, 2019, 02:14:12 PM

Also on another note of zanyness ... have you guys seen Pragon on coinmarketcap? lol Cheesy

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paragon/

If you dont sell your PRG right now you will be poor soon..

Quote from: Febo on January 01, 2019, 02:21:24 PM

First time ever happened to bitcoin. 5 negative months in a roll.

Five marching soldiers. New pattern which shows the power of manipulators.

Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 01, 2019, 10:35:00 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 01, 2019, 10:32:07 PM

Why do so many pricks have so much BTC.
Ban the pricks from BTC.

i had 1 Smerit left from bones... he said pay it forward, so there it go's
right in front of entering the HODLnest

Grin

and F*** there will always and everywhere be pricks even in here Roll Eyes

I am thinking that most of the big pricks of today are the dickheads that bought in the Nov-Dec 2017 run up and are now fucked by the bearfest of 2018.

Wait, wait, could these (manipulators) be the real pricks!
Is BTC futures now in control of the horse?

You have to watch this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jb3YaXnoHQ&t=43s

Quote from: gentlemand on January 02, 2019, 12:38:30 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 02, 2019, 12:31:22 AM

what's all this happy fucking new year bullshit?!?

Sheesh.

Someone didn't get the Barbie show jumping set they asked for for Xmas this year.

Agreed

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 03, 2019, 01:12:18 PM

I'm getting a few copies bought... Wonder if their 'sales figures' get a bump today.
https://twitter.com/wintercooled/status/1080810885046779904

Happy Birthday BTC!

PUMP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 06, 2019, 10:39:02 PM

.....
(the green DILDO have brought some pleasure i guess Grin

)

I the ass for some! Shocked

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 07, 2019, 12:36:51 AM

Weekly close above EQ of weekly OB
But 4240 gotta break to make a higher high
Expect us to test 4250 at least
Tomorrow Bitfinex is under maintenance for couple hours
Normally this puts volatility into the market
So will be interesting to see what happens

Ok going into HODLsleep now
Again
Good night WO�s and keep pumping THX

BobLaw will be dreaming of thumping green didoes.
night night! Grin

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 08, 2019, 05:58:23 PM

Quote from: luckygenough56 on January 08, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

what a weird ass candle lol

Yes, created by the devil himself for self profit!

My net worth fluctuations are like:

I am ok now.. retirement soon.
then..
fuck fuck back to Macdonalds.

Jeezz you mother fuckers, loaded with BTC, just stop manipulating the price here. Lets get back to 20K and then fucking dump it you asholes!

What is the fucking news?

check.. check.. checking support at 3700..

Volume is decreasing... up we go soon?

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 11, 2019, 10:00:09 AM

Quote from: Falcon Lover on January 11, 2019, 09:31:44 AM

Ok so Ive been invested in BTC since 2018 with an average cost basis of about 8k per coin. Sadly I dont see how we arent going to have at least one more huge move down well below 3k. I have orders to buy 3 more coins if we hit 2k. I dont want to sell rn but I am considering taking out a short position here. I believe in Bitcoin, but Im tired of so much losing in my first year Embarrassed

Could a few members help me out and post their best argument for why we already saw the bottom, or their best argument of why we are gonna have another big move to new lows.

Thank you in advance.

Stop worrying about shorting the final gasp of the bear market and start thinking about when you are going to long the bottom and how you are going to do it. Much more profitable.

Well said sir.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 11, 2019, 09:17:22 PM

....
This is not investment advice, I am a drunk with hygiene issues and a degenerate gambler.

Aren't we all?
Wink

As always, the lower it goes the more BTC I get to buy. Kiss

Double bottoms coming?
Who would be buying?
I am running our money.
Please bring me a nanny.

Hey good fellas help us build the wall.

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 13, 2019, 09:19:22 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 13, 2019, 09:08:38 PM

Hey good fellas help us build the wall.

brick by brick build wall
bitcoin user-count grow's big
shall we wall observe?

Dollar by dollar at 3570.

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 14, 2019, 03:33:26 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096275.0

For the brothers still not on it

Closes wednesday
12.00CET

oooohhhhhhh sweet... thanks bro.

Can someone ban all of these grin fans?
WTF? Shocked

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 18, 2019, 12:58:21 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 18, 2019, 12:13:10 PM

Can someone ban all of these grin fans?
WTF? Shocked

yuh ban thermos ban aantonopop ban jojosaurus69 ban boblwablaw
oh wait the latter for example didn't say he was a fan, just mining the stuff with a grumble and for something to do.
the CEO of VeeCash^TM� is certainly not a fan but reserves the right to talk about it itt, whether the 'tech', the financials, the communiteh (which omfg), the governance model (which ditto) until i/he is blue in the face
probably won't though, in minor part out of respect for you and others who don't want it here, but mostly because ...

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2019, 06:23:27 PM

Quote from: infofront on January 17, 2019, 06:07:22 PM

It's weird. It seems many of the old school bitcoiners who didn't pile on Monero are now piling on Grin.

The name 'Grin' is apropos: It's the look on the whale scammer's faces when they pump and dump another shitcoin to the moon and back, leaving thousands of bag holding n00bs crying on the floor.

... Torque is right on this,
and because it is an xclnt chance to troll monero fans.

altcoins are not a thing, but this has been a great chance to learn more about why

Yes I get it.. it is disgusting. Angry

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 18, 2019, 01:08:44 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 18, 2019, 12:13:10 PM

Can someone ban all of these grin fans?
WTF? Shocked

Dude. Didn't you get the memo ? This place is Grintalk now.

Yes I got the memo, hard pill to swallow. Shocked

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 18, 2019, 01:58:03 PM

You altcoin pumpers!

gr........

is just another ploy to dump BTC into the next level of support.
Nothing but manipulation at every step.
... ohhh the tech is so and so..

Quote from: ivomm on January 22, 2019, 12:09:32 PM

Ouch! Some bear got burned!

That whiplash has Arthur Hayes signature.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:36:40 PM

Quote from: vroom on January 22, 2019, 12:14:31 PM

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 22, 2019, 12:12:48 PM

The majority of this thread are from eu, usa, asia or.....??

moon?

quite!

very few asian regulars here, maybe raja, Dabs (long time no see) +?
some antipodeans - Hairy +?
otherwise maybe half and half born in europe/british isles or north america ?

so no Africans or Latin Americans?
there was a guy from s africa long ago (not Spagni)
finally, was that professor guy/troll S American?

Ecuador here.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:44:48 PM

niceee ^ tell us more?

Long story... got interested in Black Coin way back and mined it for a while. Did not sell on the big pump.. Of course I have no BC now Roll Eyes

.
Born in Ecuador, studied and worked in the USA. Been back to EC since 2002.
Proud owner of BTC along with shit coins. Did not sell on the big pump!
Hodler at heart or fool? Time will tell.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 01:06:09 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:44:48 PM

niceee ^ tell us more?

Long story... got interested in Black Coin way back and mined it for a while. Did not sell on the big pump.. Of course I have no BC now Roll Eyes

.
Born in Ecuador, studied and worked in the USA. Been back to EC since 2002.
Proud owner of BTC along with shit coins. Did not sell on the big pump!
Hodler at heart or fool? Time will tell.

tyvm. so great you went back. not a fool, wait for the really big pump after next.
is there a bitcoin scene there? how good is the internet there?

Small BTC community but I do not participate; I live in the mountains away form civilization.
Internet is very good in the main cities in Ecuador.
I have very good internet in my hidden crater via antennas that I installed.
You can visit me here: http://pululahua-ecolodge.com/
Pay with BTC or shitcoins if you like.

Quote from: kenzawak on January 22, 2019, 01:26:31 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:22:25 PM

You can visit me here: http://pululahua-ecolodge.com/

Wow just wow !
Lucky you !

EDIT : oh wait, no pizzeria around ? Grin

Got it, you make your own in your restaurant. Damn...

My wife make it! Yes I feel really lucky.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 22, 2019, 05:52:54 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:44:48 PM

niceee ^ tell us more?

Long story... got interested in Black Coin way back and mined it for a while. Did not sell on the big pump.. Of course I have no BC now Roll Eyes

.
Born in Ecuador, studied and worked in the USA. Been back to EC since 2002.
Proud owner of BTC along with shit coins. Did not sell on the big pump!
Hodler at heart or fool? Time will tell.

Regarding investing in bitcoin, what do you do?

Do you dollar cost average and try to buy more on dips?

Do you have a certain percentage of your income that you allocate to bitcoin?

Do you plan out in advance in order to determine how much BTC you can buy, or do you get into trouble because you bought too much and then th price does not go up, as hoped?

Buy low and never sell. I got in mostly in the $600 to $1200 range but added more in the $3400 range. Will add more if it drops below $3200.

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 22, 2019, 04:51:54 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:22:25 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 01:06:09 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:44:48 PM

niceee ^ tell us more?

Long story... got interested in Black Coin way back and mined it for a while. Did not sell on the big pump.. Of course I have no BC now Roll Eyes

.
Born in Ecuador, studied and worked in the USA. Been back to EC since 2002.
Proud owner of BTC along with shit coins. Did not sell on the big pump!
Hodler at heart or fool? Time will tell.

tyvm. so great you went back. not a fool, wait for the really big pump after next.
is there a bitcoin scene there? how good is the internet there?

Havent we seen this before? I could swear I remember a picture of some model or pretty lady standing here when the railing and sign looked new. I looked a bit but could not find it so perhaps I am not remembering correctly. Place looks amazing regardless.
+1 WOsMerit

Hope that "Last of the V8s" brings her model to update my pictures. Nice mountains available here as well but that model is quite nice.

Quote from: kenzawak on January 22, 2019, 06:18:20 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 22, 2019, 05:52:54 PM

Quote from: RayX12 on January 22, 2019, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 22, 2019, 12:44:48 PM

niceee ^ tell us more?

Long story... got interested in Black Coin way back and mined it for a while. Did not sell on the big pump.. Of course I have no BC now Roll Eyes

.
Born in Ecuador, studied and worked in the USA. Been back to EC since 2002.
Proud owner of BTC along with shit coins. Did not sell on the big pump!
Hodler at heart or fool? Time will tell.

I got another question. How far are you from town ?
Is it hard to get supplies to where you are ?

Closest stores 45 minutes for supplies. Bigger mall with more stuff 1hr.

Plenty of cheap land for sale.. It is cheap because we are inside the crater, probably cant get volcanic insurance.

Quote from: kenzawak on January 29, 2019, 09:45:39 AM

Two Hacker Groups Responsible for As Much as $1 Billion in Stolen Crypto

https://ci.covesting.io/news/cryptocurrency-news/two-hacker-groups-responsible-much-1-billion-stolen-crypto

"Blockchain analysis firm Chainalysis has revealed new data that suggests that two cyber-criminal rings could be responsible for the majority of cryptocurrency stolen in recent years.

While there are dozens of hacker groups across the globe, and many more individual hackers working in solitary, two specific groups are said to be responsible for as much as $1 billion in stolen cryptocurrencies, according to a new report featured in the Wall Street Journal.

New research from Chainalysis claims that two groups, only referred to as Alpha and Beta, are responsible for an overwhelming majority of all cryptocurrencies stolen as part of scams. These scams often include phishing attacks, Twitter giveaway schemes, and much more."

Probably CIA and the FEDs
They are are the ones that want to kill crypto.
wait...
Maybe the Roger VER group or the Craig Wright group...
wait..
One thing is clear..
Few people are trying to kill it (BTC)!

Painting green you mean?

Yes, proof that too many pricks own too much bitcoin.

Quote from: Hueristic on February 26, 2019, 04:28:57 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on February 26, 2019, 03:17:19 AM

Quote from: machasm on February 25, 2019, 05:47:03 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 25, 2019, 03:04:17 PM

Venezuela is one of the cheapest places in the world (on record) to mine bitcoin because of the really cheap electricity prices. Anybody feel like going to live there for 12-18 months & setting uo a mining farm with me?

If I was younger and single I would bite your arm off.
Unfortunately I am neither and will have to make do with my tiny GPu rig costing more on electricity than I am making in coins here in the UK.

Maybe you should listen to this first. https://ledarsidorna.se/2019/02/our-woman-in-venezuela-annika-hernroth-rothstein-this-is-what-happened/

That chick has balls, hot too! I don't think she will go back there again.

https://youtu.be/zXoMIk_h0nU

That is not a country you want to goto now I'd say.

Maybe people can help her by sending her some BTC.
That would be fantastic use of BTC..

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 14, 2019, 02:06:07 PM

Oh come on, Arthur, a couple of 2.5mn buys isn't enough to fool the fomo bots.

meanwhile deribit tryna liqudate him.

Happening is it?

Fomo bots kicking in now.. Grin

Quote from: bitserve on March 19, 2019, 03:14:53 PM

Quote from: kingcolex on March 19, 2019, 03:03:53 PM

Quote from: bitserve on March 19, 2019, 02:58:53 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on March 19, 2019, 02:46:47 PM

Quote from: Pamoldar on March 19, 2019, 10:28:17 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on March 19, 2019, 07:24:25 AM

HOTTIE of the day

These girls,
Showing off their body
Risking their life in between a small mistake
For what?

I am sorry the world is too crazy now. May be I am one of the old school in thoughts?

F**king safety first!

Maybe for the same thing as us guys? I used to do that shit just for the fuck of it. good fun climbing.

Wanna be safe then build and underground bunker and hide.

I don't see no climbing there:

Hint: Extra strong hair lacquer.

Geeze I don't know if I'd want to date a woman who's crazy enough to do that. She might jump on the hood of your car if you ever want to drive off somewhere.

Yeah, that would be horrible. You would have to fuck her to let you go.

I would like to see some shots from below, Gluteus maximus pls.