From 47 peta to 51.5 peta in less than a week. Yup, looks like a collapse to me.  I wonder if the network will be 1 exahash before the halving.

I will take that bet.

/tinfoil hat on

I have wondered about this as well. The only answer I can come up with that makes any sense is arbitrage. There appears to be a group or groups doing extended arbitrage between BTC-e and Bitstamp/Huobi and who knows where else. I have watched this for several weeks now and it is just to consistent to be coincidence imo. In the scenario I envision these groups have a few hundred to a few thousand BTC and do this daily taking $2,000-$20,000 profits out in fiat. Even with just 200 coins it's 60k a month, not bad profit.


/tinfoil hat off 

New poll time?   

Come on troll's. Have to do better than that.


Seriously? How would that cause a rally?  It would cause a crash.


All that is relevant at this point imo is that the trend line has been broken upwards.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Thank's, Bye.

I really don't care anymore at this point. Welcome to ignore Jorgi. Statements like the above really piss me off, especially coming from the mouth of a so called educated person.

p.s. I call bullshit on the "Academic interest only"

Thanks bye.

+1

I concure. When it breaches 400 it will spike towards 430's and then we will consolidate in the 420's. Shorts ought to start closing soon...no?

How about minutes?

qft..excited for the coming year.

For some reason I cant find my zen atm...you havent seen it lying about have you? Its all still so surreal.   +26488.26% for me

Is this what your looking for?

I would like 3.8.2018 
Cheers

Please?  I could use some more cheap coins.  

Oh this should be good...

Nope..nothing going on around here.

Hang on. NABB's behind the seatback tray.

I saw got filled and make her smile and my dyslexia kicked in and I was off on a totally different tangent...

OT

I have to say the market is always able to surprise me. I am seeing some nice consolidation at 15k support and volume is rising but I fear if we dont blow upwards thru 17k then we are sideways and down for a retest of 10k.  Pretty standard stuff...what I think is new and unusual is all the movement seems...cushioned...I dont know how else to describe it. Its does not have the same violence I have come to expect from btc.  More exchanges..less float..probably dozens of reasons...thats my take.  Just remember where we are...




Happy Cryptomas all.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I support and agree with the above posting...   *shows multiple brands*  ....see?

oh that snap back....tasty..

Oh boy...should we count the ways?  Mainstream media sheeple duh...

Will the bunker be available after?  I have a stellar cleaning crew...i'm sure I can make use of it.   

Cдeлaли и cдeлaли мoeгo дpyгa! .. мы бyдeм тocт вaшe имя и пpoклинaeм вaшиx вpaгoв. S priyezdom!

Give that man a cigar..

Where the fuck you been?      We have been looking for someone to blame....

Someone started the party without me!!  





Warm wishes to all this New Years Eve. Lets bring 2018 in with some moon shots.

Thats what I was thinking...wtf??  

Is a vacuum considered a bubble? Or is it just empty space being filled...

I find it interesting how mainstream media is starting to label coins as "securities".

ikr

Wake up man..you missed the future..its here.

16 Psyche is located in the large asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is a 130 mile (200km) wide chunk of metal, made up of iron, nickel and a number of other rare metals, including gold, platinum and copper. If the asteroid could be transported back to Earth, the iron alone would be worth $10,000 quadrillion (£8,072 quadrillion).

The article I got this from goes on to explain how NASA is setting up a probe and scientific experiments to explore this very rock. There are literally millions of similiar and much closer NEO's that will be mined for raw materials in this century. A few of the companies on the forefront of this are Deep Space Industries, Kepler Energy and Space Engineering, Planetary Resources and Moon Express.

Gold and other so called "precious" metals are not so rare and precious. The future is encryption.


 

Roach...fuck off...what ever..I dont block you because its just childish..even an asshole like you ought to be heard once in awhile...a very brief while I might add.

As far as P&D group's...fuck off too...but..its interesting that my feeble charting points to a focal point in about 12-15 hours.

I think 20k by the 16th just..maybe..be possible.

Need a little more OT around here. And where are some train meme's..rockets..something.

...and we need more cowbell.

Your so last century dude...keep up or get out.

All interplanetary travel will be via magnetic plasma sails. And I concede that your probably right..mining and transporting raw materials from space down a gravity well is to difficult to be economically viable. Unless a space elevator or other such tech happens. Set off nuclear ordanance? Why ever for? Light sails, ion engines, gravity tethers..there are ways to easily and cheaply alter the orbits of noteworthy objects with zero muss or fuss.

The plasma magnet sail engine is little more than 2 pairs of charged rotating coils and is therefore extremely simple and inexpensive. A fully powered plasma magnet sail using a small nuclear power source could accelerate at 0.5G and reach 400-700 km/sec (0.2% of lightspeed) in half a day.
A stream of charged particles could be generated from Phobos or Demos to slow the Plasma magnet sail to Mars. If you were slowing a 100-ton manned spacecraft, then you would need to produce 100,000 tons of particles. There would need to be multi-megawatt plant on the moons of Mars. It is possible to scale up for manned missions and to stop the craft.
 Neptune has a large enough magnetosphere where a plasma magnet sail could stop by decelerating at 5Gs. It would be a 4-month mission to Neptune
 a 10 KW system could slow an interstellar spacecraft from 20% of lightspeed over 2 years. Interstellar missions could then explore the target solar system.

I dont get it..why go to a bitcoin forum to talk about another coin?  There are even child boards for this very topic. Yet when you are rebuffed...you cant understand why zfag.
Fine you want to hold other coins..trade..what ever..dont expect a warm fuzzy reception when you come in here to talk about it..

Its really quite amazing...47 million digit number.


The most interesting thing I found was the hardware used.

     The primality proof took six days of non-stop computing on a PC with an Intel i5-6600 CPU. To prove there were no errors in the prime discovery process, the new prime was independently verified using         
     four different programs on four different hardware configurations.

    Aaron Blosser verified it using Prime95 on an Intel Xeon server in 37 hours.
    David Stanfill verified it using gpuOwL on an AMD RX Vega 64 GPU in 34 hours.
    Andreas Höglund verified the prime using CUDALucas running on NVidia Titan Black GPU in 73 hours.
    Ernst Mayer also verified it using his own program Mlucas on 32-core Xeon server in 82 hours.
    Andreas Höglund also confirmed using Mlucas running on an Amazon AWS instance in 65 hours.

Not only was the Vega twice as fast as the NVidia it was the fastest overall. The Vega is a compute monster from all ive read. Drivers and optimizations in software are only now starting to catch up to it.
With all thats going on about Intel shitting the bed and the Ryzen platform from AMD hitting a home run in 2017..I like the look the road map coming for hardware up and into the 2020's.
Now if memory prices would just go down...

Hah!

With about 80 trillion in "broad" money floating around out there...we got a ways to go.   

Exactly.

Good morning.  Lets see some of your TA?  No...never posted any?  Only post cute little meme's and take shots aimed at the back?  I see..
Let me know when you find the courage to put something possibly constructive out there for others to criticize without worrying about "oh no! what do the forum trolls think of me?!?"

Have a nice day.


Yes, I am grumpy in the morning.

OT

I think maybe everyone is a bit too focused on the CMC and not trade volumes. The velocity of the coins in circulation seems to be a more important metric. Even then, are these actual trades or just wash.

 

Tomorrow should be a fun ride. The 15k support line has now turned into strong resistance and volume is building. I am a bullhodler.

BTC779.85829729  to 16k on GDAX   


Look out!

No..but dated...        We are ready for some next gen liftoffs..



Some Falcon Heavy action is imminent.

I wonder how many new users actually know what these concepts mean...

Talk about a huge growth field...cryptocurrency education...hmmm.

What happened...so many great names in that thread..back when talk was cutting edge...now its just us trolls hanging out.

The crazy part is that was 4 years ago!  Still havent implemented a solution....hmmm. 4 years is a eternity in coding.

No..your not delusional..perhaps slightly acrobatic if your avatar is any indication.  /s


Lol..and I just realized I F'ed up the meme...think its supposed to be "Gentlemen"...


JJG...I feel the same way...while I am not going to step out the the local lambo dealer(this week)...life is indeed much less stressful than pre-btc. My hodling are down 2000% from the ATH....but I am still over 24k+% overall....there is that. 


It would take...well..im not sure what it would take really. I have been blessed with a good career and financial stability for many years, bitcoin has always been a hobby. But I am passionate about my hobby. I will of course be very disappointed if bitcoin does not perform as well as I think it will. That has a low order of probability imo tho. Bitcoin and the blockchain are such a disruptive paradigm shift that there is no stopping now. The genie is   out of the bottle. I like to equate it to what Henry Ford did for the automotive industry..he didnt invent the auto..he just streamlined building them and wallah the assembly line was born. Satoshi has done the same thing. He didnt invent money or ledgers..just streamlined the way they are integrated and used.

bleh..im preaching to the choir again 

Oh..I know I should keep my mouth shut..

Cant help it..have all this extra "gas" lying around....

I have to comment on the elephant in the room...

Peter..is the reason your here and shilling so much of late is perhaps because BCH is going to be dethroned by Eth soon? Sell that trash man..you know your going to...just a matter of time.

Might be a tad early...I would look in another 5-9 hours once the east has awoken.

Good god man...get off the 10m chart ffs...     


/s

well lookie there...huge.

Patience...its just after 4am in the east...I feel some more buying dips will happen.

The channel remains $12.7k-$16.5k..unless a breakout happens in either direction I would not be to worried.



Nah...hes just miffed he sold all hes doggie coins early..  :p



Blasphemy!

We are not supposed to talk about the "thing" remember?




I was just taking a friendly shot...I move between the time scales when charting..looking for doji.

Must has been one hell of a New Years for the Master.

He sounds....almost lucid. I am thinking it is the severe hangover still in effect. I  hope everyone was patient and able to buy the low.

Im sorry...the pelvis is mine...G gave it to me fair and square.  Happy to share tho.


Awww...look at the little squeaky toy...can I haz it?

I am blown away...still.

But this bearishness...what is this?  Ahhh..I see now..this is reverse psychology.

Its a classic dilemma. Its very easy to project what you desire into reality.

I am confident your expectations will be met.



Is 100k going to make that much of a difference? Different people have different goals..but to me..a 100k price dif(ie 15k to 17k) would not be enough of a change for me alter plans.
Bob..Im already retired..and 100k is less than a half years wage for me. How many years do you expect that 100k to support you?  Half a year?  3 years?  10 years?  30 years.
I guess what im trying to say is if that small change(for me) is going to radically alter your retirement profile...maybe its time to take a second look at your portfolio.
 

Ahh..SD...1.3 mio rolls    You got it bad Dabs. Miss it terribly...another one I miss is SwC.  One of my fav dives from the way back machine.  Is that bitcoin tx bubble thingy still going? Used to stare at it for hours while listening to music and doing paperwork.

And regarding legacy accounts at bittrex..I went thru the same thing last year. But you can contact support via slack or email and establish a deposit/withdrawal limit that fits your portfolio.

*edit*

Found it..looks like it has evolved some...still fun.
http://www.bitlisten.com/

https://www.bitcoincash.org/bitcoin.pdf

*edit*
Bleh..seems this is just Satoshi's.  Looking further..

*edit* to the *edit*


AFAICT...BTC and BCH share the original Satoshi white paper. Which makes sense since BCH is just a clone. I have zero information as to what their roadmap looks like nor do I care tbh.

I like you. 

Ummm...Bob...about that request..

Done.   I am wondering when ETH is going to retouch its ATH ratio...so strong.   Think its going to .1 today...

17.54 moar coin...didnt even make a blip on gdax..lol.  But the bleeding seems to have slowed.

Others :  24.15%

Nah...just needed a wee bit more nudge.

JJG -  Nailed it.

/randomthoughts -  I was not implying that you where sweating the 100k..actually quite the opposite. I was and now have confirmation that this was more of idle strategy thought progression than actual panic or worry for that matter.

what is this cash flow you are yammering on about?  I only have btc flow problems atm.  Its costing me an arm and a leg to send a tx!







Its official..Bittrex is off the hook..hope you all profited on that epic eth run up.   .1

Exactly...sure it will be coming soon..hate even bringing it up but it was glorious. As much as I am a btc bulltard..self admitted...I have come to accept that there will be other coins. It does no diminish my believe in bitcoin over the long term what so ever tho. What I am really quite pleased with was bitcoins performance thru it all...sure we touched the line..but held strong at 14k support. Pretty pleased that it was able to do that thru the pump. The conductor is a virtuoso.

*golf clap*

Well..none of my stop loses triggered...must have survived the night.  Cryptopocolypse has been canceled?


Generally speaking..I dont consider myself to be a chartist...but I seem to have been in a zone...some type of fugue state. Whispering.

Not only that, I seem to have created two new words as well this morning. Delightful.

Everyone get your big boy pants belted on...Bob..you can either go with chaps or a tutu..your call.  /s  

Wrong?  No..you see..there was some news out of the east...


Steady as she goes Sir. You will find your moment.



Good morning.


Delightful shake..think it worked. I am interested it touched the 12.7k trend line but bounced back very strongly. I am still looking for a moderate rally thru this weekend.

The dips have been glorious. I'm tired...think I'll take a nap now.

More rounds Bob?  We are doing 18 today?  I might only have time for 9 as I have to catch a flight out to Belize this afternoon.

My people will get with your people.


Yes.



We are still ok...lets see what happens over the next day or so. We are still in the ascending channel. February 1st is starting to look like a foci point. I cant get the granularity down enough for more accurate speculation.

^
This guy gets bitcoin.
I cant keep giving you prizes Torque. All the other kids might get jealous.

All this "movement" is 1k of coin moving around(on each major exchange). I think they are just tuning the algo's on the bots tbh. Kinda bruising the ego..all this FUD generated by electric sheep.

Nice ride dude..like the colors.


LOL'ed


Do you even bitcoin brah?

Color or it didnt happen. Nice dude! Congrats!!

Trouble...there goes my stops..

Man..took me years to wrap my head around that one. Thumbs up.

I have always thought Doug keeps it real. A lot of red shirts out there..

Oh no..some get rich, just a few..just enough to keep the next batch of fools investing.

This is interesting.

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/952079239213342720

*snicker*

Waiting for the Random Anecdote - .01%'er Edition.

Gentlemen problem's right?


Seven figure plus checks dont come around all that often..I'll admit I bounced around like a mad hare first time I saw one with my name on it. Bob's fine..he still dealing with that post coitus glow of ahhh...I CAN see light at the end of the tunnel.

This crossed my mind also. Its the only thing that makes sense.

 

Yep.

Jojo...was going to add you to the WO portrait..guy in back on right..walking up to group and saying "FOMO?" 

But was under a time crunch to be Inb4 someone else picked that low hanging fruit.

Indeed...truth be told..he is a much better troll than all of us combined methinks.   

ftfy

^ THAT sounds like a shit show 

*edit
There was some sly comment about PoS and non-authoritative chains but I've forgotten...

13k it looks like. Looks like another good buy area to me.

Perhaps not just one.




Volume tells the complete story..not the candles. Looking at the charts Bob showed us, where is the sell off volume hmm?

I did the same thing I usually do in these situations...I bought more. Cant seem to help myself...  

500 btc to go..get while their hot.

Just need to ripley Kansas...its the only way to be sure.

Buying zone approaching.

I disagree. Our sample space is getting large enough for a joint probability distribution where our reaching a new ATH within 12 months is non trivial.

Nanos gigantum humeris insidentes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/one-person-caused-bitcoin-to-spike-from-150-to-1000-in-2013.html

Just reviewing my contrarian indicator...all is well.

For those of you who's Latin is rusty..

Isaac Newton

Bitcoin GitHub History Visualized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2OBbK-7qPc

Glass Butte Fire Obsidian...one of my fav "rocks".

I am thinking you are talking about jewelry like a ring...rather than a specimen.  If thats the case...Sapphire?

une grande demande pour votre deuxième poste ... peut-être essayer ici?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=187.0



*edit

smoked by the v8.. 

OT

Some interesting mining data projections for 2018.

http://theminersunion.com/2018/01/04/q1-2018-bitcoin-mining-projections/

This is some commentary from Level1Tech that I think explain the relevant parts of the article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR7E9O0UiCY&t=4045s


Basically it has to do with TSCM(the foundry the produces Bitmains 16nm ASIC)and their quarterly earnings report.

In my mind..whales are still accumulating...so its good imho. I dont know if I would go so far as to say we are coiling again...but there seems to be some compression in the ask walls. I am calling for a nice little spike within 36 hours.

I have a unlocked rooted s7 edge that I use for international travel...love it.

Meh...this is speculation..not fact. BCC is a shit show there is no doubt..but I have seen very few facts.


Indeed. What I fail to grasp is why they didnt fractional token it ala mtGox..unless its been going on for far longer than we realize.

No hopium here per say my friend. Just putting forth some speculation. If enough of us throw mud against the wall..some is bound to stick. I actually think you show the most discipline when it comes to having a "strategy" anyway.


And ikr...Bob is out to get me...im scared kinda.       ..not even the common courtesy to offer a reach around. /s
You will be fine tomorrow Bob..go find some varmint to take it out on.

Nice doji forming on the 6hr..

Perhaps in the most simplistic terms(which..around here is not really a bad thing).

Its really more to do with the Equihash algo...it runs better on Cuda than OpenGL..so where before..AMD had the advantage on hashing sha-256(way back..pre-asic) and scrypt(not so way back but still a couple years ago) today's markets are filled by both...perhaps I should say empty of both?

-random thoughts-
It comes down to architecture..AMD has been behind machine learning and large data set simulation since CNG became a thing. They have expanded with Vega and Infinity Fabric. Modular SoC are here. Being able to just add compute complexes as needed is a game changer. TSCM..one of the largest nodes for producing wafers...over half of their production is running a 16nm ASIC process..not gpu or flash memory.
Why do I mention this? Because the supply is not just suddenly going to grow. All current cards are getting snapped up at a premium. Something similar happened in 2014.
GPU mining is not going anywhere. Whether or not it will be profitable is up to the market.



Seems ok. Better flush.

You are not at all. It is intensely hard to look past the Id. I like to call it being a real human being. So easy to say(or type), yet so hard to practice oneself.


See below.

See below.

Not probably..lol.

I think JJG..that you are in the same or near the same place I feel I am at. where these "stresses" are becoming less and less relevant. I see them as applied gaming theory. Bitcoin kinda brings out a highlanderish thing...I will be the(most) only one with coin! amiright? I mean..we have to keep score somehow.

Yes...it is all voodoo and mummery...but..as many things are..some truths(?) can be gleaned I think. What one can intuit I think is cyclical. Meaning at times you are in tune and at times not so much. Mathematics...music...oscillation...vibrations...harmonics.

And besides all that..my doji never materialized..us talking about it...causation and all...

When is the fork of these meritcoins and will there be another airdrop?  

Calling this little piss ant ratings corporation smart people is beneath you JJG. Market makers and big money sent way more qualified(and discrete) individuals out to check out bitcoin long ago. Any claim by these people is suspect imo. I mean for crying out loud these are the same pond scum that caused the recession. While not exact its of the same tainted lineage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_rating_agencies_and_the_subprime_crisis


The fact of the matter that bitcoin is getting a grade at all..let alone a C+ is absolutely amazing as far as I am concerned. I mean..think about it..this is the coin associated with mtGox..SR...numerous hacks ect ect.

 

lol..you guys are really good.

I would insist on escrow.

You know..I was drafting up a reply...but as usual...JJG is so much more eloquent than I. The evidence is right there in the 2nd sentence I quoted.

More evidence..if they are so fair handed...why the desperate grab for a mailing list and the paywall...now...gtfo.

Bobbie..its going to be ok.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day..  /s

Naa..not my style JJG..I am actually concerned for Bob. Dealing with end game financials is enough to make anyone on edge. If anything I am still recovering from this Weiss report...left a sour taste I do believe.

Indeed..even my most bultard moments I try to stay impartial. Hard to do...

All good bets and ripe for development I am thinking.

I will take those odds.

Enough said.

I like to think this is a hidden gem. So many do not realize that.
 
The right path.

Its certainly fun. Its a chess match I feel privileged to participate in.

I think we all beat around the bush a bit when it comes to just out and out saying how many coin are in our wallets. I think its not only foolish to boast on a public forum but in poor taste. By that same logic...I dont feel any need to hide these things either. I can and have documented where my hodling's come from.

Oddly enough it wasent Bob's finaincials that I was slightly worrying about..it was hes state of mind. For someone ready to step into the next path of their life he is sooooo angry!  /s

Fact of the matter I am just damn jealous of the way he pull's off wearing those assless chaps..I could never.

Damn it jojo...beat me to it..was still watching it. 


Doug is really on it....I like hes perspective on the crypto space.

Way to go buddy.

Ver is a sociopath. Has been for years...does hes best to screw over bitcoin every chance he gets.
Over 100 LN nodes running now..20% of all nodes now SegWit and growing. Ver is a sociopath.
 

Nice...I might look at some AMD boxes with Meltdown and Spectre going on tho. You can get cheap Opteron mircoservers for next to nothing if you dont want to throw a Threadripper together.
And Bob..start with a smaller amount at first obv 

Again?

Its still slightly favoring the bulls. Clear the schedule..gather the popcorn..should be a exciting day.

I bought 2 lots here in the fall of '15..

For about 110-150sf you can have what ever type of palapa to hacienda you can dream up.

Stop that...stop that right now!

Ok..lets take a look at PM's...heck..dollars or seashells..any physical store of value.

The problem I have is that advancements in 3D printing have reached beyond the micro scale and into the nano scale. I dont think it will be to long(<100 years?)before replicators are a thing.

Deep dive.

The idea of being able to materialize any object out of thin air, as the metaphor suggests, is a bit tough to wrap ones mind around. First, understand that quantum mechanics tells us that there is not really such a thing as empty space. Even in a vacuum, ultra-tiny particles can be found constantly coming into existence for extremely short periods of time. Although these particles are quickly annihilated when they collide with a corresponding anti-particle made from antimatter, they nevertheless exist ... and in the moment when they do exist they seemingly emerge "out of thin air."

Now imagine if you had a super-intense laser(which shot pure electromagnetic energy)that was strong enough to rip these tiny particles away from their anti-particles so that they didn't collide. If they don't collide, then they won't get annihilated. So in other words, such a laser would make it possible to end up with real particles with mass just by shooting your laser (pure energy) into a void region of space.

And it just so happens that such a laser is in the works. A major European project is now building the most powerful laser ever generated, known as the Extreme Light Infrastructure, or ELI. This laser will be able to provide beams with a power of 10 PW (or 10,000,000,000,000,000 watts), which is orders of magnitude (10 times, to be exact) more powerful than any existing laser facilities.

More importantly, ELI should be strong enough to produce particles out of a vacuum. While generating a handful of particles is a long way from generating a convincing steak and lobster dinner, the technology at least makes "Star Trek"-like replicators conceivable as a real-life possibility. They can no longer be dismissed merely as a convenient fiction for sci-fi writers. That's kind of exciting, if not downright mind-bending.

As Arthur C. Clarke once famously said, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Here are some relevant articles about MIP's and biological printing which is at the cutting edge of this technology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_imprinting

https://books.google.com/books?id=QYrOBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a14528/the-chemistry-3d-printer-can-craft-rare-medicinal-molecules-from-scratch/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5380738/


Some people go on about crypto and transaction speed...and convenience..oh..let me scan that QR code.. and zip!
Most of these things are not what attracts me to bitcoin..its having the immutable proof that what I hodl is not a counterfeit.
Do I think having a diversifiied portfolio is a bad thing?  Heck no...Do I think physical money and PM's are going away...probably not..but there will come a time when it will be in jeopardy due to technology. 

t2's ftw

Cowboy up.


*snicker*




Just because.

interesting..a retweet.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/blockchain-company-buys-67000-acres-at-northern-nevada-industrial-park

Crazy amount. My first thought was mining consortium..commercial power rates are not terrible in Storey County. Second thought is its probably just a good real estate purchase. Build what you need and lease out or just hodl until later. Land that might be the next Silicon Valley..once California breaks off into or is drowned beneath the Pacific Ocean.

Hes keeping a pretty fierce schedule..looks tired today. Still keeping it real. But dude..your set man....wtf. Either green screen it or get some new freakin pics in the background.

double spent?

Alright..enough is enough...im forking these. From now on we will have WOsMerits..these badboys are multisig, segwit, bip 91 compliant..no premine...

+1 WOsMerit sent! 


WOsMeritGate?

@mfort312   extrapolating those doubling floor dates and time periods could be quite interesting.  Instead of 90 what would 183(or any of the other previous numbers)days look like. Looking the exact dates is probably also worth investigation.

The myopic diatribe that comes from the minds of some of these children bugs me.


OT

Bids are still growing while asks have remained relatively stable. Someone wave to Bob as we go by please...

Wouldnt you be?  I mean ffs..the man said no lube.


Zero problem. He is generous enough to share what he is experiencing with all of us. I think that is wonderful. Lol..Bob and I both know that I only wish the best for him. I take shots at him for probably the opposite of what you think. Because he is one of the best here able to take such repartee.

50 coin closer...   its going up..get ready.  should be heading for 12.2-12.3 anytime.

jojo

why you no do this?

you got about 24 hrs brah.



I just want to be clear about this..   


ccmf.

schwing.

I am detecting some cognitive dissonance reading thru the last several pages.

"Treatment can help, but this condition can't be cured."

ikr...it was a nice weekend for me. Actually got out and finished some chores. Boat is almost ready to be splashed for spring.

Not sure where all this friction is coming from..but the market it straining at the leash to go up. Not sure if its residual down pressure from events last week(read NEM hack) or if we just got caught up in the typical weekend dump where the two forces basically cancelled each other out.

All in all looks like a bullish week is ahead.




Technically..pro spin.

Its really quite disgusting. "What is history, but a fable agreed upon?"

Thanks for that..looks like you can respond and send corrections directly here nistir8202-comments@nist.gov

My take on it is they(bcash manipulators and shills) realize the gig is up..they have known and now are making an exit into forthcoming forks in preparation for future pump and dumps.
 

Well.."they" can do what ever the hell they like of course..but this is an actually fairly important "spoke" in the nonmesh topology of the government.
The "hub" that NIST connects to is the US Dept. of Commerce. "Among its tasks are gathering economic and demographic data for business and government decision-making."
Seeing that "they" receive accurate and unbiased information about the history, the current state and the political in-fighting of bitcoin is probably a good idea.

https://www.nist.gov/el/faqs-nist-wtc-towers-investigation

News flash!  Gravity actually works!   who woulda thunk...

"For Bob Barker, the price is sometimes wrong." Mom say's.

Like the trollbox filter on btc-e(or whatever it is these days)...keep the peons pushed down says I.
What if its 10 people trying to set up 100,000 accounts instead? Make massive nano accounts...instead of botnet..you have accountbotnet1.0 for market manipulation.

Dont get me wrong here..I think the global awareness of bitcoin and crypto is at ath..and millions of legit accounts are being opened. But a bad actor(s) trying to avoid kyc compliance...well...10,000 $100 accounts...

You get the picture.

No shill quotes please..


And even if you were not quoting that sociopath's rag..so what?  How is this good news?  Some local court ruling that bitcoin has value. Surprise..

   


Even the bot doesnt know what to do..crazy.

I didnt give much weight to the CME and futures but the price has been right there and if you look forward a couple months...well..this might be how Spring turns out. My suspicious side wonders if all those posts from a few weeks back about "what would you do if the price stayed ____?" were a focus group for tptb...
/tinfoil hat off

I didnt "shit" on anyone..I simply stated don't come quoting articles from someplace owned by in my mind one of bitcoins biggest enemies.

Quite a few actually..and while I am not 100% familiar with SK's judicial system..I do know unless its the highest court that made this ruling..it will probably go thru years of appeals and ratification's before becoming a "law".  I never had a problem with the article..it was always the source.


I dont know what to do with this mess..accusation? statement?  question?...whats going on here.

it was -sniped-
but a drink sounds good about now..




winner winner chikun dinner

$8800 fib bounce now in..delicious. Last chance to step off for awhile.

However, while blasting bitcoin, the Indian finmin announced that India would embrace blockchain "The government will explore use of blockchain technology proactively for ushering in digital economy."

Bullish.

Capitulation is nigh. Waiting for the daily probably.
More buying at $8100 perhaps.

My thoughts also..where is the whiplash...I dont feel like I have been flogged nearly enough.


I am also curious when the flippening is going to happen. When will ETH over take BCH....I think its close.

I don't think its a threat to bitcoin...but its getting closer.  .113/.138 etc/bch. I can see that happening I guess..but I have to admit I am probably biased.

You can not haz my keys....ever.

Missed this as the pages whirled by.
Yep..should be a sticky somewhere..should be a required opsec course to get a forum account instead of these dumb ass sMerits. 

Who's first?

The whole thing needs tweaking some more..seems to me. I dont have near enough merits to hand out. I dont want a shit ton more...but being able to reward comments daily and not run out seems like it would be a reasonable place to start. And another damn thing..some hero members had there merits raised if they where near legendary?  If so..what about all the other ranks that where close to ranking up? Its all kinda arbitrary.


Not that I really care..I still am going to give out the forked WOsMerits when earned 

slightly on topic...seems the east is wakening up and is not happy..more dump?

+1 WOsM for compelling imagery.



+1 WOsM for compelling imagery.

Some oft overlooked advice about seeds.

    Never take a picture of your recovery sheet (as it would go in the cloud and could be accessible to hackers).
    Never enter your 24 words on any computer or smartphone.
    Keep your recovery sheet in a safe place, protected from light, humidity and fire.

Additionally, it is critical to make sure that you have generated yourself the 24 words. Never, ever, use a preconfigured device. Never, ever, use a set of 24 words which has been given to you by a third party. The basic principle is that you must be the only one in the world to have knowledge of your 24 words.


Did you try this Bob?
https://medium.com/@dougvk/run-your-own-mainnet-lightning-node-2d2eab628a8b


OT
I am expected a nice surge...even tho I have been saying that for a week now. This sell off caught me off guard and it was glaringly obvious in hind sight. Fundamentals are still fundamental...and a 61.8% fib retrace is not out of the ball park here.
I was only able to sell a small amount at around $8550 on the way down but was able to grab a nice pile at $8129.99.
Looking to exit at 14.75k with the coins I have in play if this rebound happens. I think this is going ping pong bullishly into next week for the New Year.

I hear you..doesn't sound like a bad way to go. I found that guide useful getting all the dependencies set up tho. Just getting to the point where its up and stable in the VM is a pain.

+5 WOsMerits

Sadly, there are quite a few locked threads on this forum that deserve some necro love. Perhaps start a new one..everyone enjoys memes.


**Edited: CFTC has rescheduled the date for this event from Feb 6th to Feb 14th, 2017.**

Might hold off it looks like. Now we have all the makings for the perfect storm next week. Stocking up on popcorn, tums, hookers and blow. See ya.

Here it comes.   

I wanna know which chunk im getting to keep tho! /s

Lambo dreams...pffft...so 2017.


I am pretty excited about that launch myself. I have emailed Elon about getting a quote in bitcoin for a series of FH missions to Mars. For awhile there I was thinking BTC10k would do it..but at todays prices its BTC37241.37931034483
Hopefully by next decade it will be back down to where I can realistically afford it..say BTC2-3k bitcoin. That should include habitat, EV suits, 60kv+ solar array and battery bank, couple of electric rovers and food/oxygen for 36 months.
I dont want a round trip but that option should be available to any that want to come with me..and I expect a resupply mission every 24 months for sundries and victuals.





ikr


Carry on.

The Stairs of Doom approacheth.



Me too...dont know why but wouldnt be suprised at a hard bounce upwards. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part. I hope everyone was able to protect their nestegg. Whilst my fiat holdings have taken a significant downturn my crypto assets are increasing nicely.

I would like however, to point out someone is NOT with the program here...what is the meaning of this??




This...this lack of conformity..the out right just not fitting in with the crowd..this is unacceptable!

6k broke..now we can get down to it.

yeehaw

So bearish so soon?  I think 2 years would be at the very outside...the next halving is in that range and that gets baked in well before hand. In all honesty I expect a rebound of some type to happen by weeks end. Tomorrow might be brutal but we will survive and flourish, and become stronger for it. A good chance for everyone to accumulate more coins I think.
A couple months of the bearspring to lick our wounds and reflect upon the error of our ways. Then we will thank the gods and do a jig, for the healing warmth of summer will be upon us.


+1 WOsMerit for wtf over.
smh

Hey...look at the bright side...least he had and was still IN hes underwear.

Ofc its a shitshow..the only reason they are doing it today it to distract from the meltdown happening with the global markets.

+10 WOsMerits  I can still hear the echo...   They-MOS-MOS-Mos-mos!

Markets recovering...Honey Badger on the prowl. FH launch in 30 minutes...coincidence?  I think not.

BUY BUY BUY!!!

and remember...

Dont Panic.

+1 WOsMerit


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/961083704230674438



The delta v was much higher than expected. A elongated elliptical orbit will carry it out towards the asteroid belt.



Its actually "Life on Mars" and yes sound waves can propagate thru the martian atmosphere but not at the levels found on earth. ei..the martian atmosphere is 1% of earths at sea level.

http://www.planetary.org/explore/projects/microphones/sounds-on-mars.html

CCMF

+2 WOsmerits  One for post and one for compelling meme.

Id give you real ones but out like everyone else it seems.

Kick this. 

In many of the more relaxed civilizations on the Outer Eastern Rim of the Galaxy, the Hitchhiker’s Guide has already supplanted the great Encyclopaedia Galactica as the standard repository of all knowledge and wisdom, for though it has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least wildly inaccurate, it scores over the older, more pedestrian work in two important respects. First, it is slightly cheaper(and can be purchased with bitcoin); and second, it has the words "DON'T PANIC" inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover.

Well..at least someone can appreciate my feeble attempts at distraction and humor.



On a more somber note.

RIP John Perry Barlow

All I got is a Jimi song floating thru my brain..but ya..who does valance's like that anymore?

+5 WOsMerits for words...a lot of words.



+1 WOsMerit  They are indeed going for a "look".  Was it successful?


+1 WOsMerit for img duh(top 10 iconic photos ever imho)


-1 WOsMerit for shill shit post...but be proud..your my first neg

+10 WOsMerits for a trifecta post. 

TA, speculation and entertainment all wrapped up in one digestible nugget.

*golf clap*

Both of those automotive manufactures can only drool over the publicity coup that happened from those images. What is not talked about and I dont want to harp on to much is the risk taken by Elon in 1)launching a vehicle at all. 2)launching right before the Q4 earnings report. If the launch had been unsuccessful I can only imagine what the stock price would have done not only for SpaceX but for Tesla.




Where is the call in part? Also..we need to get Roger on record more often..I mean..just look at him..please let him speak out more for bch lol.

Binance booting back up soon..

https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/961853665484025856

Yes you can. You also have different bots for different market conditions. ei  p&d bot, bear market bot..sideways bot...what ever. Machine learning algo's can be added so the bot gets better over time. Here is a simple bot written in php. Scripts are pretty easy to craft with a little homework.

Bullshit..you CAN do it. It is very simple...can even compile and run in windoz if thats your fancy..the bot above is profitable in most markets and is 20 lines of code. I am to paranoid to let scripts run unattended..but..it can be done with phone based apps pretty easy. You dont have to pay for the utility of having a bot run your portfolio. A little research and within a day you can have one up and running.

What if Elon Musk just committed the perfect murder?


 

This is some great information...thank you for sharing and the time you have invested in creating it.

+10 WOsMerits

Still puked a bit in my mouth seeing legalize tacked on the end...even tho its smart to CYA.

It has been quite the ride..and its far from over.


Sitarow's post opened the flood gates and now I am cruising the way back machine trying to remember exactly when I first heard of bitcoin. I want to say that it was right around Christmas of 2011..the price had just spiked to $15 and then dropped...everyone was in a panic. Quite the series of unfortunate events drew me towards bitcoin..mostly due to the closing of Full Tilt and the subsequent backlash over online gambling in the US. I didnt fully enter until march of 2012 tho and even then I only lurked around this forum under another account. Meh..I am mono logging...

My points are this...JJG, your OG dude...dont sweat it...you are like a fixture on the WO now..your place in history is assured. The market will continue to fluctuate..same deal..buy the dips when you can. I strongly feel that we are going to breach 5 figures before we have another dip in the coming weeks. It would not surprise me to have a new ATL for the year but those predicting a long winter...I dont see it. Late Spring and Summer are going to be hot hot hot! Inertia is a funny thing. I have been thinking about the term "Legacy Markets"..thats what our previous global markets are now. Bitcoin and crypto are the future..its here now.

Because more efficient markets consume less efficient markets. See above about Legacy Markets.

A heavy volume daily over the weekend would really show wall street whos in charge now but its been light since the selloff. I think the battle is going from $8900 all the way to $9200. If we can breach that resistance level its a confirmation for testing 5 figures and a bullish reversal indicator at least for the shorter term.

Haha! I am not getting any younger and truth be told I forget shit all the time. My kids are like....Dad!!!!  and I have to guilty admit that yes..that was our turn for home and I had forgotten...

I am still "accumulating" heh..but in a very regimented manner these days. I do have a small stash I keep in hot wallets to daytard with on occasion...but mostly for academic purposes.


I can remember the first hearing part clear as a bell. A buddy of mine had bought in the runup from $5 to $15...at like $13 I think...and the market crashed. He was sitting there with there huge bags and nowhere to run. I got busy thru the holidays as usual and didnt think about it till that spring. I spoke with my buddy and he was pumped..the price had risen to over $50 at that point..this was middle late March I think in 2012. Well..he convinced me to check out this poker site that only accepted bitcoins. Those facts and the added benefit of having and building high end computers for many years..whelp..that was it for me. After writing this down it has struck me how eerily similiar this must be for the people who bought at the top of 2017. Do the right thing people!  Hodl!

Indeed..perhaps even more so than being early..

I agree..tho $3k seems extremely bearish...I doubt the spikes would fall that fall even on a hard dump. I have modeled scenarios where we have reached $5k but they never seems to last long term.

I think everyone is going to be amazed...again.


For real...JJG...I am of an age where I doubt I will see even the beginning of the end..I console myself with the fact I have seen the beginning.

mphff...fine...for now.


I accept your scenario to the 14kish fib and subsequent retraction to 5 figure support but your surmise after that is too chaotic to be relevant.

+1 WOsMerit   

Think about it.

http://berk.es/2018/02/09/bitcoin-turning-into-a-multi-layered-system-is-the-most-interesting-thing-in-crypto-in-2018/

Why not?

Bull tears...worse.  

I like the other image more..I was not sure you(we?) would get the implied joke with this one.  Commodities...oh boy...here we go...

+10 WOsMerits for just being you.
Good morning Jimmie

+1 WOsMerit
I think there are many of us that are closer to the end than the beginning.

+1 WOsMerit
My brother-in-law is 59..great guy...but refuses to even look into the digital realms. Even after hours of debate and explanations..horse..water..?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


+1 WOsMerit

I see no ranting in those last two sentences. Every word you typed is true imo.


A seminal piece of work no?  In all honesty...one of my favorite authors.
+1 WOsMerit


+1 WOsMerit just for being a geezer. I dont really care for the racist bullshit but whatever.
I think thats great..just remind him to set something up so hes keys can be willed to whom ever.


+1 WOsMerit 
This is great...but we need the PM's to be strapped to their backs. They have one hour to cross over the border...its 20 miles away and they have 1000lbs of their entire life savings with them. Now run!
On the other team....its Jew boy and hes Trezor...who will make it over the border first?

@R0ach  Your logic...wait..your rational is so fucked up I dont know where to start. You are showing your bias with statements like this. Once the PoW block reward end..miners will compete for transaction fees. Why do you waste your time preaching to bitcoin evangelists..on a bitcoin forum?

Its an acronym...Protocol for Indirect Controlled Access to Repository Data (PICARD). But that would be a nice thing if it was...I am not sure how many here know about algebraic surfaces tho..


Im sure its all F'ed up...trying to respond to the R0ach without quoting is fun.

https://99bitcoins.com/what-is-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-a-beginners-explanation/


This is a good beginning methinks.

Your such a pessimist Jojo. 

Big money moved in.. .022

+5 WOsMerits

+2 WOsMerits

+2 WOsMerits

+1 WOsMerit

CCMF!


Ok...I have seen the end....its coming for us.    https://beta.bitcointalk.org/boards

The horns are sounded...fight or die....there is no speculation sub-forum.....REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Nice...mandatory moon somewhere tho methinks.



We are all rooting for you....seriously.

+1 WOsMerit

Why yes...yes it is.  $9200 targeted
*wanders off looking for old 9k memes*


*edit

I did find this..posting for the record. 

Hmmm...came across this about a potential double spend attack. Seriously interesting and actually surprised this isnt a bigger deal.

Basically there is a chance that a miner(pool) would be able to match the entire hashrate of bcash and create a low risk/high reward double spend.

Julian, the Co-Founder of TenX explains it in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cuImsvmSf4&feature=youtu.be





While some might argue that this is a bcash problem I disagree. This is an all crypto problem really. If such an attack can be carried out and funds exchanged from the double spend, it not only devalues the exchange but the crypto in question.

+10 WOsMerits for lol

+2 WOsMerits to infofront for new poll.

+1 WOsMerits to all the rest of the regulars for posting a page a hour whilst I slept. Except you R0ach you racist fuck.

The assault begins...

I tend to agree with a few caveats. If you examine the first parabolic channel you notice right off that the "width" is much more pronounced than the second channel's. This leads me to believe that the channel we are now in(second channel) will widen to more closely match that of the first. Finally..the candle pattern of the 2013 dip tells the story of the upcoming rise much clearer than what we are seeing currently.

tl;dr  I believe there will be a more pronounced cup during the next months that could widen the channel we are experiencing now before the parabolic rise past the ATH.

Close enough. 

You are correct.   

My cat's rocket pack!  Hand that back over right now.

+1 WOsMerit

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/963858382238072832




I would at least target the ATH for a exit point. ymmv.

*edited for effect*

*smack* *smack*


Keep it together ffs. We are Gentlemen, no matter the sock we wear.

$10,162.51<=moon   Is that specific enough?    

If we breach id have to say 13kish will be the next stop, keep those stops tight.

+1 WOsMerit for compelling CCMF

+100 WOsMerits

/thread

I think you are correct sad as I am to admit that. Certain personality types have to have that authoritarian fallback. It shows time and again in society, from politics to relationships to blockchains. Why should parts of the newly discovered Cryptoverse© be any different. People need to wake up to the fact that ETH is a shitstorm that will come unraveled at some point....again.

https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/866

Whilst I do think he is a good orator and there are some valid points to hes opinion...hes a reporter..not a academic. I can tell you after watching him work that crowd..I cant help but wonder at hes agenda.

I dont feel any need to prove or disprove anything to you....dude. I gave you my honest opinion and said the guy has a couple of good points but I cant help but wonder how much he was charging for that seminar.

If yours is a thinly veiled inference to the US having a piss poor immigration policy and "yee haw, 'merica is great again" we ought to build the walls higher...sorry...im not biting.

Well..looks like everyone has been eating their Wheaties this morning....good...must be time for some game theory. Btfd's.

http://trust.fehradvice.com/

I really have a man crush on your ideology Jimmie. Refreshing to know I am not alone.

Something else to ponder...This Wall we observe...this is a historical document..one wonders what will be thought about it in the future. Some of the replies and responses left here will potentially guide future generations.

Think about these things as you glibly type down what ever stray thought comes to mind. We are the forerunners of a paradigm shift in not only the world of financial markets but in the basic fundamental structure of society.

tl;dr  Raise the bar.

Now that we have looked into game theory, lets take a peek at large data sets.

a-day-in-the-life-of-Americans

If I would guess, this. There is this accelerated curve(parabolic) of technology and innovation that has occured over the last 50 years. This snowball effect will continue until the Singularity.

I can remember clearly the first time I shilled the internet. It was at my friends printing shop..you know..the kind with a actual 3 color offset press...not a photocopier...anyway. I was helping him set up a basic db for hes revolving accounts on DOS 3.something and telling him the benefits he would receive if he would just upgrade from a 14.4k to a 28.8k modem.    

I agree..tho the Kraken has rejuvenated itself nicely. 

I would look into a shelf company, perhaps out of Belize.

http://www.worldoffshorebanks.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-a-belize-offshore-company.php
https://www.apintertrust.com/offshore_company/belize_ibc.htm

Obligatory for the crushing of the upcoming 11k wall.
+10 WOsMerits airdrop for all..f#ck it.
Carry on.

I thought I saw some RT from/about Vitalik going around earlier too. Not sure what it was but basically a quote saying he could not remain neutral. So I guess immutability is a thing after all? 

Yes, yes and yes.  Will it...no idea...infofront stay up on this thread pretty well..If he dosent like it you will know.

Yea...weak sauce.  Just woke...one cup of coffee...and you going off about eugenics. Give me a few moments to craft a respectable rebuttal would you? 

Your statement seems so counter intuitive at first glance..what to make of it..hmm.

We have spent the last million or so years evolving for the very purpose of physical labor...and you suggest that in less than a few hundred years all that is lost?  The evolutionary path of hunter/gather's predicates periods of inactivity followed by massive bursts of exertion. exempli gratia, The tribe would stalk and chase prey for many miles before cornering, trapping or driving off cliffs. This pattern is found through out the food chain really..only in humans recent history has exertion for pleasure(i.e. exercise)become a thing. You dont see many apex predators besides homo sapien out jogging or doing yoga do you? No, they conserve energy until it is necessary to use. Its different how we go about work today in modern times. Work is toil, not the social interaction it once was.

(still)Waiting for 12.2