+1

A ni hecno, ko folk misli, da ga boš kar razumel, če v svojem jeziku pišeš...

Thanks for the explanation.

sell now, or regret later

well duuuh, what sounds better

rally my *ss, those are your everyday small bumps on the way down

If a gvt or bank wants to kill BTC it is easier to do so by pumping to death an alt and make it No1.

Or no?

this price is so crazy, right after all the good news ?

maybe this is actually good news, and make ppl interested to invest in bitcoin. hmmm maybe  

what i see is someone try to corner the market... they sell... we sell... they buy... they win

He bought at almost 600 

Absolutely.  No one sells, supply approaches 0.  Price skyrockets.  
We've been over this.  
Let's do it already!

Tim Draper should buy some Ripple, far better investment

Is double bottom bullish or bearish?

Does it matter the second bottom is lower or higher than the first?

since 800$ I'm telling bitcoin is the past and the it will crash. Ripple is signing several huge bank soon and you stil don't understand that the value web won't be bitcoin.

Stamp price: 346.5
1000 coins to 370
1000 coins to 344

this price is so crazy, right after all the good news ?

maybe this is actually good news, and make ppl interested to invest in bitcoin. hmmm maybe  

why?

Again i don't get all the panic and stress.
This is what you traders wanted. Month after month you dumped on every price rise to make your 50 bucks profit. All the way till where we are now. And now you're shitting your pants because the price stopped going up.
And the most idiotic part is the minute we go up you will do it all over again. Until you scared away every single buyer. And then you wonder why the market won't go up anymore.

Really, stop crying. You wanted this. I can't read this shit anymore.
Traders are the cancer of Bitcoin.

Again i don't get all the panic and stress.
This is what you traders wanted. Month after month you dumped on every price rise to make your 50 bucks profit. All the way till where we are now. And now you're shitting your pants because the price stopped going up.
And the most idiotic part is the minute we go up you will do it all over again. Until you scared away every single buyer. And then you wonder why the market won't go up anymore.

Really, stop crying. You wanted this. I can't read this shit anymore.
Traders are the cancer of Bitcoin.

Jesus christ it's been going nothing but down today..

DOGE held pretty good. It seems like DOGe is the only trustable hedge against cryptos.
IS FTC preparing for a pump, or is it alredy over?  I think i´m gonna buy me some.

Or "tsunami" as I now like to call it

Yes but their buy-in price was in the 2 digits... poor Draper paid 600+

"Something a brewing"

 

Ok, so why did he remove it after a short while if he is a legit seller, and why did  build up that 8000BTC bid wall @380....
and why didn´t he slowly sell out over all exchanges distributed.
he also could have sold on Bitfinex @ 360 when they had around 10-12k down to 300$
I don´t think that someone with that much BTC suddenly decides to panic when it goes from 350 to 310$
Sorry but your explanation is highly unlikely.

so does anybody know what may be causing this price decline?

bitfinix now 305. They got tired of waiting for bitstamp.

Relentless buying... who ARE these people?

this bear is not fun anymore

i wonder what chinese will think when they wake up ? wow such volume and price ? buy or sell ?

When you think about it, Bitcoin is a real threat to economy in a given society, when the value goes up that fast ( as you claim it will) many people will be leaving their daily productive jobs.... and when thinking about mass adoption I start thinking about a bunch of greedy lazy bastards.... this surely will result to the collapse of that society.


Thankfully, after being home for 7 months now, I started looking for a job.

I think the fear has reached an extreme far higher than anything in 2014 yet. People (including me) are talking about getting back to work, putting castles for sale, and the price reaching $100-$200 in a matter of weeks.

Typically, extreme fear is associated with prices that in nearly all timeframes provide far above-average returns. Unlike most extreme fear situations, the one in Bitcoin now is very easy to capitalize on, because bitcoins can easily be bought 24/7.

Even if buying more is not a realistic option due to the portfolio already being heavy in BTC, selling is generally not warranted unless you want to be one of those taken advantage of.

bull trap?

if bitcoin is dead now, there will be no bitcoin 2.0.  not even in our dream (im ready to invest in bitcoin 2.0).

more like a failed bulltrap... by mr.manipulator

Meanwhile the dwarves keep up the hard work

https://blockchain.info/en/charts/hash-rate

miner need to eat too you know

Seems like he would have to hate money to do that.

WOW!

what wall? only wall of talk lately was eaten.

also china punching in to 2070.. 2100 gonna fall before lunch?

your tears

so u ar saying that short term bullish, med term bearish, mid long term bearish and veri long term very bollish ?

btw bitcoin is all over the news again....

because we dont want to feed the troll

early adopter deserve the profit for taking all the risk all these years. but btw early adopter arent cashing out.  BTC is better than cash.  you can get ebola after handling cash. think about it

dont u dare to sleep, the next 24 hours is critical !!!   

this bull is just as retarded as the bear!

up ~12% , since all time recent low

The collective noun being dickheads?

Really, the male obsession over the internal combustion engine is quite pitiful.

rule no. 16. There are NO girls on the internet.

you are right about that. not everyone will sodl.

I for one have already sodl for a nice profit.

Yes, still buying.

rule no. 16. There are NO girls on the internet.

I don't visit ripple forums, nor do i post about it on fb, or tell anyone they should invest only my mother and girlfriend know i even own a lot of bitcoins. I talked my sister out of investing @ $600 because i wouldn't be held responsible if she lost anything.

so tell me, who do i try to convince to invest?

he only ever comes here to post stupid shit about ripple

People are so stupid, bitcoin is the primary currency of most darkmarkets, that is, a multi-billion dollar industry. It may go lower than 300 at some point but it is not going to die overnight or in the near future. Only when these darkmarkets transition to a superior more anonymous currency/platform we will see the true end of bitcoin.

If we can survive "China bans Bitcoin" and "Russia bans Bitcoin" we could even survive "USA bans Bitcoin."  

The thing about Bitcoin is that banning it really cannot stop it.  Sure it can slow it down, but the only way to stop Bitcoin would be to ban the entire internet.  

closed your shorts?

too much selling at 330 fonzie, be careful.

it amazes me that bear warn their victim


oh i get it..... accumulation phase

I'll see if I can find something, not sure how I even found it was a problem as I just installed and it seemed to work fine, I think I tried to find my IP in a list of full nodes but it could have been debugging output either.

EDIT: Fsck that, searches flooded with mining and config data, some vague stuff from changes made in 2011, couldn't find any clear info.

Let me make two quick final points.

1. anything i say is to help other people who are like myself, who have the basic common sense to listen to what others say in order to help educate themselves. I'm just one perspective, obviously not an omniscient god, and also not on someones payroll, the world is not so full of convenient conspiracies as some of you would like to believe. However if anyone reading this would like to pay me to write stuff, I would be open to discussing that.

2. poop leaves the body at body temperature, and if the temperature of the environment is low enough, the poop will steam. This is not a visual indication of an especially stinky poop as you might think upon first glance, but rather of a temperature difference. The rise in price since the manipulation at 300 is a result of the environment, (the relative price in the short term), and has nothing to do with any fundamentals behind bitcoin. It's all just speculation and once the turd cools down to match the ambient temperature, and 300 becomes normal in peoples minds (a few weeks perhaps) then it'll drop again.

There's even a company setting up to broadcast over digital radio so things like vending machines don't need an internet connection to verify transactions (in Sweden iirc).
Maybe off topic, back to mutant whales, interstellar locomotion and undertakers I guess.

That fork word scares me. Can we call it something nicer, like a pony?

I usually don't get into off-topic, but this is relevant to investing in a not-too-roundabout way. It's very hard to make good investment decisions if you're sexually frustrated, or if you're relying on getting rich as the way to solve this area of your life.

First, most obvious thing: stop spending time online (no computer except maybe dating sites, no phone except for setting up in-person meets). Never be home. NEVER. BE. HOME. Home is for sleep, breakfast, and sex. Everything else is out there. Stop doing every anti-social/unsocial thing you're doing and start doing social things where you actually interact with people face to face. Doesn't matter what it is or who it is, because for the first few weeks practice is your only goal.

And for those times that you must be online, because you're addicted to content, watching TV/movies is way better than reading things. Couchtuner has most of the good shows. Comedies like Wilfred and visceral shows like Vikings will at least put you in a decent semi-social mindset before you go out. Better yet, take a laptop or smartphone to a coffee shop and watch there. Of course you'll have to graduate from that, but start small if you have to.

You can read pickup books if you want to, as they may provide inspiration on what's possible and open your mind, but beware that a most of them focus on the wrong things (gimmicks, getting numbers) rather than correcting the basic errors most guys end up with from years of indoctrination: scarcity mindset, putting her on a pedestal, taking yourself too seriously, etc. If you want to see material of this nature, as far as I'm aware of, you have to go back 15 years to the Usenet newsgroup alt.seduction.fast circa 1999-2001, which I don't even know how to browse now. Anyway, if you look hard and you need it, you can find it. Even there you have to carefully sort the wheat from the chaff, of course, but there is a lot less harmful advice. Re: The Game (Neil Strauss), it's definitely not the right mindset overall but in with the silliness there are some gems so if you've never done well in your life it can help. I'd look elsewhere first.

Now, nuts and bolts: Never turn down a request to hang out with someone, go to every gathering, party, etc. Find groups that share your interests, hiking clubs, tennis circles, Bitcoin meetups... no matter what it is, it's definitely going to be better than whatever you're doing that led to no social life and not touching a woman in a long time. And do it all, every day have multiple things in your schedule, even better would be to get a part-time job that requires social contact, like being a waiter. Look up every event, festival, concert, etc. in your area, put them in your scheduler and go to as many as you can. Anything to force you out of the house and to interact with people, or at least just be around people as a start.

Alcohol is called a social lubricant for a reason. If you don't drink and have no history of problems with alcohol, I invite you to start - but only in social settings! Drink a decent amount three times a week, at a bar or other such place, never to excess but just enough to get a solid social buzz. (To do this comfortably might require eating better and exercising more, which is a great idea anyway, and you'll need to drink a lot more water.) This alone can work wonders. If, as your name suggests, you prefer other substances, force yourself to only do them with other people. Once you're drinking, it will be way easier to talk to people and make friends. In fact, "drink until girls start returning eye contact" and "drink until you strike up conversations without even noticing" are good guidelines to ensure you're drinking enough (feeling sick, uncoordinated, sloppy, etc. are of course signs you drank too much). At first it might be that you get sloppy drunk and still aren't able to overcome social anxiety, but don't worry; just like in investing, "the trend is your friend" and you're moving in the right direction even if it might take a few weeks to see results. You have to see the upside even when it feels like nothing good is coming, knowing you're doing things that will change your results despite any short term inertia and noise. In other words, you have to HODL through it.

Just keep drinking 3x per week outside the house, keep exercising, keep going out, never be home, never do anything unsocial, never use the computer, never refuse an invitation, fill your schedule with meets any way you can, never dwell on negative thoughts, never analyze, just get out there for a few weeks and it will start to happen naturally. Input creates output; whatever you're doing every day is creating a certain mindset in you that creates a social output that is not working. Hanging out on the Internet and whatever else is pushing you down socially. Take that giant millstone off your neck and start doing all the things that you know push you up socially, and it won't be long before things turn around, assuming you've ever had any success before.

Once you feel up to it, you can do more deliberate things. One easy progression when you're out on the street, at a mall, etc. is to simply lock eye contact with every person you pass. Once you can do that, eye contact and smile. Then graduate to a "Hi!" if you want. That alone will put you in a much more social state.

Then as far as women specifically, you'll want to either go to bars/clubs/etc. or rely on connections, or use the Internet, or do cold/buzzed approaches, or better yet kitchen sink it. Do it all, and do it all at once. If you have specific problems after several weeks, PM me.

Couldn't take it anymore, had to make an account so I could ignore the ripple guy.

Adam,

I know how to solve at least two of your problems:

1. Send me all your bitcoin,

2. I love you long time.

We will see 450 before weekend just saying 

whats wrong shooormie ? short squeese scare u no ?

hmmmm.... soooo basically you want cheap coin because you were selling at 318 instead of 400 ? teheheheheheheheheeheheheheheeee

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/14/quantum-computers-public-encryption

 

Fucking idiot trader! I hope you have to buy back at a big loose.

I have suggested watching the hash rate to find the bottom.  Why?  Well, if miners start taking machines offline, it affects supply by reducing the coins mined to the normal 3600 daily or less.  But more importantly, it indicates the lowest price that miners must sell at to make a profit (of course every miner will have a slightly different level).  Any lower and miners must hold and hope for a price increase.  To sell would guarantee that they couldn't pay the monthly bills.  That behavior could dramatically affect supply.

you sound desperate... 

I wonder if this is the general forum feeling felt before other bubbles. I came into btc so close to the beginning of the Nov 2013 rally that for a while there I had the feeling bitcoin was all about going up. So I don't really know what's the sentiment that preceeds leaving a long bearish market...

LOL All the way to $415.

$395? What, 15 hours ago? LOL  

Fibbing? LOL

Meanwhile how long ago was $415?

 

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heh... who is hoping for economic collapse ?  im still holding fiat more than i hold bitcoin.  but be realistic when everyone says bad thing ahead.
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uhm... says the fiat cultist...  

Or, indeed, the wheelbarrow to carry it in.

i believe in honest money: gold, silver and bitcoin...

nb: off course i do stock trading too because it usually make more fiat than gold and silver, but now im thinking about trading bitcoin instead...

if i buy at 300 and sell today i surely get 30% in a week...

I trust it. But I want to use the coin that most people use. Bitcoin is most useful to me.

do you guys think the downtrend is over?

@NotLambchop  it is you who are start mentioning shitcoin, this thread is not about shitcoin

you dont get it do you, at least kupsi is talking about bitcoin AT Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
while you talk about shitcoin

I agree that "Maths and Science" sometimes get thrown around like magical solutions by some pro-bitcoin people.

But ask yourself this:
How easy is it to change the money emission scheme for a central bank?  
How easy is it to change the money emission scheme for the bitcoin network?

True

It usually doesn´t take more than 2 hours for a massive drop to appear when Adam writes such things. 

just healthy correction, it will rebound

Someone has insider information on BIT and COIN regulatory approval.

Slow steady price rise means they are in stealth accumulation mode.

Do you guys remember moleculars matrioska cup and handle theory of price recovery?

If we stay in the low 400s range it will start to play out imo 

Refueling?

DOW down to 2%....

NO FUEL ANYMOAR !!!

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

read it here

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/15/us-stocks-plunge-in-early-trading-extending-losses-dow-heads-for-fourth/

to accumulate more.

market crash is imminent, followed by fiat crash...

to accumulate more.

market crash is imminent, followed by fiat crash...

gold is rising, stock market is falling like a rock, guess what price will bitcoin be ?

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At some point in the next 1-5 ish years, the DOW will most likely drop 50% or more.

gold is rising, stock market is falling like a rock, guess what price will bitcoin be ?

The uptrend will resume shortly. It's going to take a few more failed attempts shorting BTC before the bears give up. They are out in force again today cooing over a 2% decline when the price has just risen 35%. Lol.

gold is rising, stock market is falling like a rock, guess what price will bitcoin be ?

hmmm someone is talking to a automated posting bot, must be very very intelligent

why dont you ask shroomie or notlambchop, they were the smartest ppl around here and their prediction always correct

Because only whales have the ability to dump 1000 BTC at a time, and not Joe Public?  So no, not really "people"?

I think it's trying to communicate with you

BTW Bitstamp doesn't allow unverified accounts to trade at all, simply you cant trade you cant deposit and you cant withdraw before verifying, and if you had an account before the verification was required it just get blocked until you do so.

bla bla bla bla bla

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Buying at 70% below the previous ATH seems a good place to accumulate. Newcomers will likely think so too.

for this once i am on your side bro... i just sold...
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im sooo sooo glad that im already quit stock market as i give warning here yesterday...    and im in bitcoin  

what can i say... i just a noob, like you

let me correct it

1. you were lucky
2. you troll
3. you make ppl lost mony, i lied when i said that i lost mony

We could be sliding sideways for a while, too.

It is I, your cold-blooded overlord.  This isn't even my final form.

Adam, educate yourself! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians

a frog is a reptilian ?

a frog is a reptilian ?

The luls continue
Bitcoin Trader Customers Face Losses After Management Disappears

i agree

if we break into the 350s it is probable we will go down at least to 320-330 in my opinion...

10% is huge move for a days trading.... if you have say 1000 BTC leveraged x7 THATS LIKE 700BTC !! ;-)

true, and by the end of the year new or small years might also face the increasing difficulty problem, which might further decrease the number of small miners in the mining competition.

Cheap coins on sale now. Mr Bearwhale has made a generous donation. 

tis thread has turned into a political discussion... 

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The form of government has nothing to do with scientific progress.

Or... actually yes ! Governments work hard to stop progress and maintain status quo : cut in scientific research to fund social benefits.

Patent anyone ?
A patent is a set of exclusive rights granted by a sovereign state to an inventor or assignee for a limited period of time in exchange for detailed public disclosure of an invention.

Patenting is totally opposed to open-source.
Open-source come from people, not government.
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344 - 360 at least shows a recovery into Rule of Thirds mode. We'll see stability and recovery in the 360-390 range.

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/17674/is-bitcoin-the-red-pill-unplugging-the-matrix/

Free your mind.

** Buys Again **

Why Coindesk says the price is $435??

http://www.coindesk.com/price/

Draper looks like a Vulcan.

Finally going up or nah 

Well I've tried and tried to hold this thing together
But you wanted more than I could give.
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Ding ding ding! Winner winner, chicken dinner!

   incoming

Where are the dumps, it was supposed to be <330$ hours ago, it was confirmed :/

bitcoin is struggling below 349 but now seem rebounded

+~5k btc in longs (calculated) vs +12k btc in shorts...in the last days...exciting

Well, rather have a ton of 'selfish' people helping out the needy, than having more people lke you, doing nothing and posting about how stupid those helping people actually are.

for massive industrial sized farms ?

390

considering the electricity cost  for 1 bitcoin is 131 USD,  

if the miner already ROI, they can dump to 200 and still profit

bitcoin production price is atm 131 and sold as 351... it seem fair price to me

here is my calculation :

http://www.coinwarz.com/miningprofitability/sha-256/?hr=1400.00&p=990.00&pc=0.1000&e=Bitstamp


the cost of one bitcoin is  (just electricity) :

we need 52 days x $2.38 for electricity -----> 52x2.38=123 usd  (more or less)

but this is without ROI cost, it only the electricity, and the operator work for free.

PS: @ 1.4 T we need about 52 days to create 1 bitcoin.
 

hmmm... but what if the electricity was free

hmmm... but what if the electricity was free

yes, there are too many  variable to look at.

I don't know about child pornography so can't comment on that, but "digital piracy significantly curtailed"? In what planet exactly?

... but he can only observe the market and is able to think logically: he knew people would call him out, and he knew market is up for a mini pump.
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bitcoin has great future,  its price toward fiat
USD is irrelevant

thats why i was sayng the price above 300 was fair, i didnt said that the miner get 140% profit or anything... pls check again

http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/fincens-new-bitcoin-guidelines-actually-good-news-48297

http://www.sys-con.com/node/3220637


 

bullish news on bitcorn, bitcorn will soon be equal to fiat

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Yum. Delicious reptilians.
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btw i want to add that at this usd price point (which btw is irrelevant to future price),  people have to sell 1/2 just to pay electricity versus the ideal price of 600 which ppl will just have to sell 1/3.  
which in turn increase the number of coin in circulation.

let us all pray that mass adoption happen tommorrow...

amen