All posts made by Febo in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 8349378 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Her mother Maria Theresa was a real deal.
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Post 22813998 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right. Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.
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Post 22815723 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right. Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.
Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?
If your country can run without why not. But yes you should have right to start own country. With your friends yes. and you will together decide if you need taxes or not. I do believe 5 milions people can run one for themself. you and your fiends might have troubles. specially without taxes.
About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right. Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.
Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?
Yes. Why should I bother otherwise. I also live on Earth.
Europe without free Europeans is not an Europe!
In general. Catatonians without their own army will never independent. They need every 20 years old male to be able to handle weapons and own army. Spain politicians will never let lose 20% of their country with the fight. And Europe politicians will just follow nonhuman laws.
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Post 40876334 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
This could be shaping up to something like the May 2014 interim bull trap and visit 10K or so again.
Did not April 2018 looked like that?
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Post 44715396 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):
Holy shit! After seeing this list for months it just occurred to me that it is possible no-one will ever win. Damn I'm a dumbass.
Seriously, I never even considered that a possibility. I still don't believe it and would bet everything I have against it.
Everything is possible, but for what you said is tiny chance to happen. For Bitcoin not to reach 12k until mid 2021 is smaller chance then to win a lottery.
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Post 44938362 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):
Satis Group research notes:
What is a Satis group and do you have any direct link?
I saw now. Well that whole crypto will be worth only 3.6T in 10 years is hard to believe to me. And not that I mind, but they are extremely shilling Monero.
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Post 45147925 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.06h):
Hopefully, by December 31 we end up a bit higher than $13880...
All under $14230 will be negative year for Bitcoin. and that is sort of to be expected after 13.5 times gain in previous year.
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Post 45526668 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):
Is it really prudent to be looking at the regression lines of bitcoin starting in the year 2011? Back then it was still mostly unknown to most people so trying to read the chart at that point seems a bit arbitrary to me. Mass adoption of bitcoin starting at the end of 2013 seems to be a more reliable factor.
Yes it is. So you can see the change it had to 2014 and project it to 2017 and in future.
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Post 45879002 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.07h):
12288 getting shorter and shorter
this list getting REKT as well pffff time to get some action
and another one bites the dust who's the favorite on this one ?? really don't know where i would think the winner stands in here maybe bitserve, globbo, V8 range.... don't let it be yefi or samson or fortune143 for the SMALL 12k price to hit
what a boring time would that be
Alexander_Z or CoinCube
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Post 46425902 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):
Not until Q1 2021
Bear!!!!!!!!!
That is not that bearish prediction, but totally reasonable one. You need to understand that bull market forms very slow and only after old ATH gets reached escalate. But what concern me much more is the next economic crisis. It might strike in middle of the next Bitcoin bull run and breaks it. Something as it happened in 2008 and is predict to be much bigger this time since it will also involve China, could delay Bitcoin bull market for whole two years.
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Post 46469292 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):
Man that coin is full on shit coin. I hear gazilion news about it for a year and all I know is that is or will be issued on NEM. I can check 999 coins how are issued where and where are traded and at what price are traded and I never heard of them. Of Petro I heard so many times but zero useful information. Zero.
It is really sad that first country that decided to give crypto a try did it so unprofessionally.
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Post 46472877 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):
Man that coin is full on shit coin. I hear gazilion news about it for a year and all I know is that is or will be issued on NEM. I can check 999 coins how are issued where and where are traded and at what price are traded and I never heard of them. Of Petro I heard so many times but zero useful information. Zero.
It is really sad that first country that decided to give crypto a try did it so unprofessionally.
Maybe Petro is an utter bleepcoin and its prolly a bad investment but I will use it to send money to my girl there in Venezuela cos she's stuck there for two months already getting her papers done. Currently I'm using BTC for that but the rates on the street are total ripoff with 10-20% fees when buying or selling, they say that's because of hyperinflation and traders have to protect themselves with high fees. If Petro gets listed on any decent exchange I'll be able to send her money instantly without being robbed extra 20%, simply don't care what will be its price when buying cos she can use it there immediately, in a country hit by hyperinflation that's a blessing, as well as the fact that Venezuela would have fast and cheap international money transfers independent from the Central Bank. If the people in Venezuela start using Petro in theirs everyday activities, it would be a big victory for whole crypto world. I'm kinda confident that they will use it since many of them depend on help sent from friends and relatives living in other countries and Petro would be cheapest and fastest way to do that, also they are prolly one of the top crypto-educated nations atm.
If I was a bankster I would be very worried now because if that works out fine for Venezuela then some other countries would follow as well
You missed my point. My point was why the fuck all this announcements and pre announcements of an announcements and no real datas and stats and facts. Yes of course I would love to see they succeed. But as it looks to me right now and I might be totally wrong, they copied the worse possible way to make a shitcoin.
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Post 46878331 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):
I appreciate your outlining of scenarios that you believe to be probable and most probable, but really it seems to me that you are not really accounting for the vast array of BTC price scenarios – even if you are attempting to stay in the middle of the road – and you are not putting your scenarios into a kind of probability range – which certainly each of us are going to frame these probabilities a bit differently. Furthermore, it seems that even your optimistic scenario ends up with John McAfee eating his dick on TV.
I am going to attempt to elaborate on your scenarios by adding more scenarios and assigning probabilities to them. By the way, I do agree with any premise that BTC’s performance in 6-7 years will partly depend upon how it performs in the next 2-3 years.
BTC’s price will be: First column in 2-3 years Second column in 6-7 years
Below $1k = Less than 3% Less than 1.5%
$1k to $3k = 8% to 12% 7% to 9%
$3k to $5k = 10% to 15% 8% to 12%
$5k to $10k = 10% to 15% 8% to 12%
$10k to $19k = 15% to 18% 12% to 15%
$19k to $30k = 15% to 18% 15% to 18%
$30k to $50k = 15% to 18% 15% to 18%
$50k to $100k = 12% to 15% 15% to 18%
$100k to $500k = 5% to 10% 10% to 15%
$500k to $1mill = 2% to 4% 10% to 15%
More than $1mill = Less than 1% Less than 5%
I’m kind of pulling the above estimates out of my ass (straight); however, my point still remains that each set of circumstances has probabilities, even though in the end, we are going to arrive at ONLY one spot once we get there. Nonetheless, from our current perspective, we cannot rule out extremely bearish or extremely bullish scenarios, even though the probabilities seem to be on a kind of upwardly skewed bell curve.
In other words you believe the price will stay below 3K with probability 15% and below 5K with 30% probability for the next 3 years? I wouldn't give that much - 1-2% tops. The most important question is when the effect of mass adoption (including Wall Street companies) is about to happen? I don't think we are near that event. Not even close. So the price will continue to follow its previous pattern. For the last 4 years we had 100 fold increase between the lowest point and the ATH in 2017. It is logical that the same increase will happen in a similar time frame unless the mass adoption is near completition. But let's say that it goes much slower, say 1/4 of the speed of the previous pattern. In other words 6K->600k/4=150k is achievable price within 4 years. But let's say it is not highly probable. Then again, I think that 40K is absolutely normal price in the next 4 years.
I think he did not put much effort in exact %. He even said so. But what bothers me most in such predictions. And also in predictions from both of you. About what price are you talking about. About the ATH, of the bottom or of the average? 2018 price could be $15000 or $6000 so far. That is quite a difference.
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Post 47133220 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):
@StartupAnalyst you seems to miss something. Term cryptocurencies is extremely wide and coinmarketcap.com stretch it to the max. In case of your picture it is that Bitcoin maximalists and maximalists of coins that are at least in basics built the way as Satoshi build Bitcoin. So secured by Proof of Stake and Decentralized. Will always believe XRP and many many other coins and tokens are simply not a concurrency If not use some other word for it.
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Post 47406120 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):
Regarding Brexit I voted LEAVE! It was for a couple of reasons really.
1.) My business won’t pay over inflated customs charges to import our stuff from China.
2.) I’m fed up of living in a cuckold country that allows mass immigration.
I dont understand how you hope that 3% GDP country (UK) will be able to negotiate better tariffs from a 20% GDP county (EU).
Also if UK economy will want to at least slightly keep with the rest of the world, you will have to seriously start making babies or continue with immigration policy that UK had in last 50 years. I believe it was one the ones those that attracted a lot if not the most immigrants. The rest of EU did way less.
About tariffs. You still have CEFTA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Free_Trade_Agreement Not that much countries left there but if you unite you might get better deals with China and also everyone else on the world. India, Indonesia. USA. Brazil, Russia. Oh and dont forget African countries.
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Post 47742563 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):
Aww fuck I just checked the price when did we dip down and how did I not notice?
Do you guys think this could be related to the SEC / Etherdelta case and the fact that the SEC said it would take a closer look at other exchanges ?
None off really a decentralized exchange should fear of any government or regulators. If Etherdelta will go down, that means it is not decentralized and it have to many points of failure.
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Post 47831383 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):
12244$
15/11/2018 bitserve
20/11/2018 Globb0
22/11/2018 Last of the V8s
01/12/2018 Alexander_Z
07/03/2019 CoinCube
15/04/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
20/06/2019 bitebits
13/12/2019 nikauforest
10/04/2020 yefi
05/09/2020 samson
23/06/2021 fortune143
again one shorter on the board .... salut, only 11 remaining
I know you can never be sure with Bitcoin. But considering past weeks i dont believe in miracles in next 3 weeks. So basically I see only 7 left on that list.
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Post 47909678 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):
Craig Wright is tweeting literally every 10 minutes tonight
Dr Craig S Wright @ProfFaustus
Well. In 2017 I said there was a MAJOR issue with SegWit.
In mid to late 2019, I will explain it.
It cannot be removed. It cannot be fixed. It is not solvable and, you cannot work around it.
Sorry. You allowed Core to kill BTC.
I did try and stop you.
He tweeted this few days ago
https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1061229656081350656It is same shit. This tweet it is an attack itself. ICO style pre announcement of an announcement.
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Post 47934741 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):
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Post 48049349 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):
This is really hard to watch.
And to be honest: Who would buy in a market like that.
We are constantly falling since January. You basically know, if you buy now, it will be worth less in one month.
You dont know. Impossible what will be a month form now. What we do know is that it cant be drastically different from right now and also it is much much much better time to buy then in Dec 2017.
Anybody willing to call what we’ll bottom at?
I hope this doesn’t drag on for 6 months. Let’s just fucking get it over with.
After bottom we will see sideways. Big question is when we will reach bottom. Right now is pretty clear that recovery cant start before mid 2019. v
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Post 48084985 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):
Found this chart on reddit. Quite possible timeline. With nice bottom. Bear trap next summer then BAM. Two years of fun.
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Post 48190308 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):
Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.
What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....
Of course it cant happen. LOL. That is why you should invest in Bitcoin only as much as you can afford to lose. There always was chance that Bitcoin have a fatal flaw and will go to zero. But this chance is decreasing every day. But this chance will stay here for then next 100 years and more. Just smaller and smaller.
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Post 48226219 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):
Next year at this time
Theymos just finished saying the absolute bottom is around $700...
You think you can turn this behemoth around in one year??
Trust me a year from now picture will be way more clear then right now. And it is hard to believe that price of Bitcoin would be lower then it is right now. It would be definitely perfect for me to just turn all this thing off and fast forward until then.
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Post 48326757 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):
England was already with a boot inside the EU and another one outside.
They ain't going too far alone, their economy is not enough strong to compete against big players as it was a couple of decades ago.
Since it's mainly about immigration issues (nothing new) it sounds like they want to mimic Australia or Canada but they are very different countries actually.
UK economy is strong enough to compete against big players and survive nicely. But without EU UK will move into a second group. That is all. UK will not sit at the big players table anymore. But it will be fine. No one should have any serious worries about UK.
Funny that the
Bitcoin Foundation holds more Ether than Bitcoin.
Oh well
And unknown amount of Monero
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Post 48515450 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):
I guess one difference with 2014 is that back then, people were considering it a possibility BTC could dissapear slowly and die.
Whereas now, people know BTC is here to stay (at least for some time to come) with all the nasdaq, ETF things going on.
A possible recession could indeed slow things down, curious to see how it reacts.
People dont know. Yes in this thread or this forum, many knows. But general public sees Bitcoin totally same as in 2015. And not to mention they will see Bitcoin like this most of next year.
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Post 48724774 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):
Did you want some more doom charts that show contrary to people's claims, bitcoin may have already ramped up about as high as it will go, and if it does ramp up again, it would be nowhere near the idiotic numbers people claim?
Agree it might not pump to the idiotic numbers people claim in 2021. But it will pump way over the idiotic numbers people claim in 2025.
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Post 48742894 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):
Get ready for the January dip.
Kinda like the november pump that never came?
Statistically insignificant
There was also no January dip in 2014.
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Post 48881702 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):
I hope you are not worried for them. All of them can get same or better job really fast.
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Post 48948296 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):
Btw... There's something fishy here. Can anyone explain the dynamics of what it is being shown in the video? I mean... how can something with such small mass as the stick being thrown make the girl go to the ground? Is it all fake?
I tried to see if it was just a coincidence that she misstepped at the same time, but I don't see it either.
OTOH, the poor way to (NOT) cushion the fall looks VERY real to me.
It's a shovel, not a stick. Getting hit in the head with a shovel will do that to you.
Yes it have a leverage, so adds to the force that hits you. It is same as margin trading. You may think is innocent, but when you get liquidated you get hit hard.
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Post 48989745 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):
It seems after a month and half of difficulty decrease is getting harder to mine again. If I remember right this happened after bottom in 2011. In 2015 was no difficulty decrease. Just almost no growth months before bottom.
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Post 48995634 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):
First time ever happened to bitcoin. 5 negative months in a roll.
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Post 48999891 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):
GloBee is offering many coins for payment option. Apparently Fortnite is also interested in Bitcoin LN option.
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Post 49285357 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):
I remember my prediction back then for ATH was like $7k. Far from $20k that happened latter on. 2015 was murky crappy times. I stopped accumulating towards the end of year. But it would be silly now to be sorry for that. You cant do just everything right.
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Post 49288213 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):
It's weird. It seems many of the old school bitcoiners who didn't pile on Monero are now piling on Grin.
Man, why would you want to pile into something that has such terrible inflation? Reminds me of when Zcash was trading at BTC parity...
ZCash was 2000 BTC. Grin will have 100% yearly emission inflation second year and huge first year. Probably will reach bottom in BTC 4 years from now if developed right.
Polo had maintenance announced for early today. They also tweeted that was resolved successfully but I guess was not.
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Post 49367481 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):
Is it that ant for antminer? Didn't know chinese was a per-requiset.
Bitman is mayor sponsor of Huston Rockets.
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Post 49472091 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):
The most surprising here are India and Indonesia. I thought compared to how popular is internet in India and how popular are Gold and cash there, Bitcoin is way behind. I guess just news dont come out.
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Post 49473547 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):
In other news, Bob has been drafted by the NFL:
In a movie "Daughters of the Sexual Revolution" that is a documentary of a Dallas cheerleaders movie. One of the ex cheerleaders that was chearleading 20 years ago said that her dad was a cheerleader and there was a black and white video of 3 male cheerleaders cheerleading. It looked like in 50ties or 60ties. It seems they are going back to the roots.
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Post 49518841 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):
next 24 months are critical!!!
Actually you are so right. We might have next financial crisis in that period of time and no one have clear answer how Bitcoin will react to it.
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Post 49535958 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):
Amazing. Straight 5 months of loss. First time in history. Bitcoin is breaking its own records again.
The next ATH is far away.
Definitely! But one year closer then a year ago.
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Post 49548797 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):
The EU leadership is just a bunch of cowards that's why they are making deals with Iran. They're scared and hoping they can buy themselves out of a war, which they wouldn't even fight.
Deal was made long ago. Once you make a deal you dont break it. That is why we have blockchain. Once you send Bitcoins there is no: "Oh I decided I will not send you my Bitcoins." Coward is the one who sign a deal and then chicken out of it!!! People that does that are usually not taken seriously anymore. When countries doing that happens what?
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Post 49677872 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):
I lived in China for about six months. In Shanghai, in the French concession. I was working for a company in the Jing'an district. This gave me the opportunity to experience first hand what it is like to live in a country with little to no environmental regulations. It has been awhile since I have been there so things may have changed a bit since but I have my doubts.
- I went out to the bars on Bund one night and came home piss drunk. Hopped in the shower and was thirsty and drunk so took a big mouthful of water. I nearly vomited and was instantly sober. Shanghai tap water is disgusting - no one drinks it except the very poor. It tastes like liquid metal with god knows what mixed in
- I was driving home in a taxi one winter evening and looked out the window at the beautiful snow fall. Then I realised it was still well above freezing. The falling "snow" was just fly ash from the local coal fired power station
- A friend of mine landed at the airport. I went to collect her. On the taxi ride into the city she commented on the moon which was high in the sky. I told her 'no' that's the sun and its just smog that make it look dim. We then had an argument about whether it was the sun or the moon. I was right and she was wrong.
Here is a picture of what Shanghai looks like on a typical day
Here is a photo of Beijing, which tends to be worse than Shanghai
A pic from Shijiazhuang which is further inland
You guys might think that environmental regulations are killing the USA and UK, but I suggest the opposite. A lack of environmental regulations are killing China and places in Asia. All the rich Chinese establish anchor homes in the West, in part just so they can get away from the pollution.
Think twice before you advocate for getting rid of environmental protections. You might think that the EPA is communist, but it is truly awful living somewhere without proper environmental controls. I was offered a pay rise if I would stay for another six months after my contract was up, but I got the fuck out of China and have never been back. Once I got off the plane in the West and walked into the airport parking lot, all I could smell was this wall of fresh air and flowers. That memory is absolutely seared into my brain after six months of living in smog.
Some more information just so you don't think I am making it up:
Can I drink the tap water in China?
No, the tap water in China is not safe to drink. Unlike most western countries where there is easy access to safe tap water, in most places in China the tap water, although it looks clear, is not safe for drinking unless it has been boiled. Even in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, water from the tap is not well filtered, sterilized, or purified, and may carry hazardous contaminants like sediments, rusts, bacteria, virus, chlorines, or other heavy metals. Sicknesses like diarrhea caused by drinking unclean water may spoil your trip.
Source:
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/water.htmChina's air pollution crisis shows no sign of ending as nation fails to lower coal use 10 January 2017
For the last month, severe air pollution has choked Beijing and coal is estimated to cause about 40 per cent of the smog in the nation's capital. Other cities in the north, such as Shijiazhuang, have recorded air quality of 1000 PM2.5. PM2.5 are fine particles less than 2.5 micrometres in diameter that can lodge in the lungs and get into the bloodstream. The World Health Organisation says anything over 25 PM2.5 as a health hazard
Source:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-08/chinese-air-pollution-crisis-caused-by-ongoing-coal-use/8168702
No one thinks that way except few exemptions that oppose just anything. Bigger countries like China or USA have lots of land to ruin. Smaller countries realized long long time ago how valuable every inch of nature is. You cant have serious tourism without it.
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Post 49770829 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):
A map of 2015 followed by a map of 2019.
Green = 30 MA
Yellow = 50 MA
Orange = 100 MA
Red = 200WMA. It only starts late in 2015 on Bitstamp.
So expect a hell of a long sideways ? That's what I am taking from this.
It depends what if long for you. If half year is long then you are right.
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Post 49807945 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):
Very important and joyful statistics here.
LocalBitcoins trading volumes in the United States set a new record. Last week, the figure was 31.5 million dollars. This is almost three times the previous best result.
The crypto is not dead. She just wakes up.
That looks like a flaw. If it is not a flaw then it is simply amazing.
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Post 49855079 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):
Taking into account that a recent XMR auction ended up going for a greater value than it was that day, I don't think it's worth it.
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Specially for not transparent ledger coins like Monero where every two coins are totally the same same.
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Post 49872414 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):
Magical Crypto Conference 2019 , May 11th , try not to miss it!!!
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Post 49915172 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):
Things had changed. Well they did not changed in last few days but in last 2 months. Before that the price mainly went down. Now in the last 2 months and in the upcoming months price will go up and down. This is a huge change.
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Post 49990649 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):
I highly doubt this news that ISIS holds 2 billion worth of gold. if anyone really wanna track cash flow then start with all Soudi-American own bank accounts.
Unfortunately, we can't find any because. Americans sells Weapons for a living and for the shady operation, it's discreet for obvious reasons.
Normally, Isis doesn't. These are the gold they stole from Assad. Isis is a band of thieves and killers which got planted in the Middle East by the US. That's the only thing you should be seeing in this article. Don't get drowned in the details.
Assad didn't cooperate with Israel, USA didn't like it. It is as simple as this.
“This gold was stolen from the Central Bank of Mosul, from the economy in Syria that was under the control of IS, and from the selling of Syrian and Iraqi antiquities, like smuggled antiquities from Palmyra that were sold to smugglers and traders through Turkey,” Rami Abdulrahman, head of SOHR, said.Gold belong to people in Syria, Iraq and I dont know what country also. But it looks it will get stolen now.
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Post 50003343 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):
Regret, Guilt and Greed level kicks in when I see the price of first 4 years.
Satisfaction kicks in, that I got in under $3200.
All you need to look at is 2015. The ones that did not look at it will say same words as you did 4 years from now. Just that they will mention first 8 years.
Coinbase is just sinking deeper and deeper.
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Post 50019961 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):
I don’t like the look of those stats, hopefully the bottom is already in. I don’t really want to go sub $3,000.
I dont really understand what you dont like. Our green is loosing yellowness and gaining blueness. What is there not to like? As long as yellow months are behind us I am super happy. What I do know is that I will have to get ready, for the next yellow period that will come 4 years from now, much better.
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Post 50061757 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):
Have not SODL anything since I was openly discussing plans for my early retirement fund in 2017 (which, coincidentally, paid me out my first paycheck yesterday, to keep me going for the next 20 years)
It seems you timed out your retirement almost perfectly to match with the bottom
How can you be that ignorant Mic? try to google it first next time before posting any random data?
This twitter handler is dead wrong with his statistics.
I dont understand your point. This statistics are not totally identical but they are super close. Yours datas are like 5-20% higher. I only see drastic difference in Arab states - Middle East and Africa. But that might be because they dont consist same countries. The last column in your table is about share of a continent in pie of all internet users. Most people live in Asia so they have most.
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Post 50078267 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):
Serious printing will start after they will start buying Bitcoin.
Today while reading that in my country females finally got to only 5% lower salaries then the men, what would sort of look fine if there would not be 30% more females college graduates then men. I was thinking. We are at the brink of the biggest redistribution of wealth in human history. It is happening right now. And where are females? They will manage to skip it again. Let men take everything back. This world is so cruel.
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Post 50089794 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):
https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2019/03/us-marshals-want-help-disposing-virtual-currencies/155381/Stored cryptocurrencies must be kept in a segregated digital wallet set aside specifically for the Marshals Service and must be safeguarded against “theft, human error, system failures and acts of God,” the documents state. The contractor must also be able to “brute force,” or be able to hack into, wallets that are “locked by error or technical difficulties,” enabling marshals to gain access no matter what happens.
On the disposal side, the winning vendor must be able to convert the digital currencies to physical money, either by exchanging directly to U.S. dollars, exchanging for more liquid virtual currencies and assets or through a sealed-bid auction. The contractor must also have a mechanism for returning seized assets to the original owners when required.
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Has anyone made projections on potential permanent loss of Bitcoins resulting from seizure due to criminal activity over time?
Why would a seizure count as a permanent loss? Those Bitcoins get auctioned. Yes luckily for them it takes years, specially in countries with slow court system, to actually auction them. But they are definitely not lost.
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Post 50121557 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):
Bitcoin trading volumes today same as when the price was 11K USD
What does that tells you? That 3 times more BTC have to trade than back then maybe?
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Post 50133767 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):
I'm still waiting to happen this cross. My pocket is ready for this. Patience is the key!
Price will be almost no different then. Yes you will be few months less exposed to Bitcoin but you will not gain anything if you will buy few months from now compared to right now.
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Post 50159872 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):
The cost of a cup of coffee ☕️ in Venezuelan bolívars:
Aug. 2018: 25
Sept. 2018: 35
Oct. 2018: 70
Nov. 2018: 120
Dec. 2018: 400
Jan. 2019: 1,700
Feb. 2019: 2,000
Mar. 2019: 2,800
In 2006 a cup of coffee in a bar cost on average 81 cents and in 2015 already EUR 1.20.You do not need hyperinflation for your money to lose value substantially. Actually in this country in 2015 was even deflation. % just silently adds one on top of another and then BAM.
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Post 50174103 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):
A Japanese court found Mark Carpels guilty of manipulating the data, but found no evidence of theft. As a result, the former head of Mt.Gox received two and a half years probation. Marku's good behavior over the next four years will help him escape prison.
Yup he got probation, just like what bankes get. Bitcoin had not change anything really.
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Post 50202670 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):
I’m going to have a Lambo for each day of the week if we see that price
Price will not settle at half million. Yes in 2022 can reach that high but then will drop just like always did. Bottom should be around $50k. This is much safer number to picture yourself in 2023.
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Post 50217814 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):
File hosted on google docs? Is that a virus stealing
BTC from your wallets?
I have no ideas 54 people now watch that doc. You can just read the tweets how they got to the results. there is also website for you altho I had not found much on their website.
What bother me more is that they picked strange way to determinate what volume is fake.
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Post 50227660 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):
Hello? What is thing cryptocurrency that you talk about?
The biggest use case Bitcoin currently have. Altcoin trading. It says $13b volume but this research is saying only $2b is not fake. Is this clear enough or I need to do a more detailed explain?
Oh and we are 100 days after bottom. Price is $25 higher then was back then. Dont forget to organize Bitcoin parties today.
PS: I saw now is only 95 days. I real need to check everything before i post or tell further
Dont trust what random people say on the internet is first rule of crypto
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Post 50256620 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):
I'm 55 does that qualify as old?
afraid so mate
55 is not old. You are young until 27th year. I guess you could be old at 70. But for sure not at 55. What kind of cruel society would force old people to work?
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Post 50267219 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):
You are missing an important point: there will be no distribution, until the Coinlab lawsuit will be sorted out, at least in the first Court.
The reason is that the Coinlab claim, of about 16 billion $, is so (ridiculously) large that it's impossible to fairly attribute voting rights.
Until then, Kobayashi may decide (he did not promise to withhold from selling) to sell more BTC and BCH, if the Court will approve.
Since last time sold almost at top we should not expect any selling in next 2 years since they obviously know what they are doing.
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Post 50293395 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):
I was a bit disappointed they did not point their guns at Bitmex.
How they did not? They checked all exchanges with more then $1 m of daily volume on CMC. That was close to 100 exchanges. They posted top10 with most volume. And 10th was polo with $1.4m So best chance for Bitmex is to be 11th with less that that. That information is not satisfactory for you?
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Post 50329989 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):
edit: love the stabbing ukraine
I dont think EU ever did anything to stab Ukraine. Ukraine in 1990 sighed treaty with NATO to destroy all Nuclear weapons in return for it safety that they coudl easily achieved as a nuclear bomb nation on their own. NATO is not EU. NATO failed securing safety to Ukraine and NATO back stabbed them.
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Post 50351348 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):
Bears are so fucked once we finally break 4200. You had a nice 2018,
BTCut its our time now.
102 days into the new
BTCaby
BTCull Market and all is well.
from what i see is that the bull started around the 7th of Febuary.
From 15th of December till then was the end of the bear.
You both are a bit to optimistic. We will see sub $4000 even months from now. If we would be in bull market that should be impossible.
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Post 50380987 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):
Cool... date change from April 1 to May 16. Anyone would have predicted otherwise?
What kind of people sets rulings on April fools?
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Post 50394287 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):
3 times a week for gym is more than enough
Working out 3 times a week keeps you in shape. Body fat dont really mater here. You are fit to do whatever you want at higher efficiency. 2 times is not enough, 4 times does almost no difference.
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Post 50439207 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):
Those door stoppers are in use only by central banks. You cant really get one of those yourself.
He is a friend of one Doge developer.
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Post 50447325 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):
The Bitcoin Obituaries Song 2016-2018 (Not This Time Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePdwAX4uUW0It seems they just published part 11h ago
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Post 50499849 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):
It sure feels like we're gaining ground at settling over $5,000 for the longterm.
Bitcoin is not ready to say goodbye to sub 5000. We will most likely even see sub 4000 in the summer. After that $5000+ Bitcoin will be sure things.
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Post 50530646 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):
A bat from whatever...
2022 they said...2021 they said...
I say...it is the spring of 2013 all over again (by the looks of it).
Expect the unexpected (as far as where it might go).
2013 was past halving. We are not there yet. Yes things will move faster but not that fast. If we can go that far back, I would compare 2012 with this year.
Say hello to bitcoin wallet number 35 million!
35m wallets and 400m transactions. Interesting ratio
I love this one simply because it is not focused on dates but also at ATH. I believe that $125k is close to correct, because influence of emission is getting lower and lower with every halving.
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Post 50545703 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Most Bulgarian Bitcoiners are skeptical if their government was able to securely store private keys.
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Post 50561044 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Why are countries currently holding Bitcoin? Are they confiscated Bitcoins or what?
Even Israel has a bunch...
Yes of course. Trials last for years and in that time they are not allowed to sell them and in that time a million USD become multi millions.
There were recently also rumors that Russia is buying Bitcoin.
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Post 50574269 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Sad but true
So many people are targeting Julian and calling him a Russian puppet. It's fucking pathetic how easily the media can turn views.
I am not that much into all this, but did not Wikileaks showed on Russian influence on American elections? So why would Russian government puppet reveal that Russian government influenced and decided USA elections? Makes no sense to me.
Point is if you fight for justice you are fighting everyone. So everyone is your enemy. Media is in most capitalistic countries controlled by capital that install governments. So of course all media is against Wikileaks.
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Post 50574327 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Man should not this floppy disks come nowhere close to magnets? You placed it on wall with help of a magnet?
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Post 50580217 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Let's put this in perspective. According to the 2015 fractal, we are supposed to be having a massive, soul destroying dip right now. Instead we are having a very slight wobble.
I don't know how to interpret this in any other way, other than this is solidly bullish.
Thing is that you cant just overlay them. Right now we are further on then in April 2015. We are at least in May if not in June. Yes of course we are to high. But not that much to high.
2020 bullrun will happen earlier then it did in 2016. Simply because whales will get scared to stay behind with half empty bags.
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Post 50589884 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Thing is that you cant just overlay them. Right now we are further on then in April 2015. We are at least in May if not in June.
Says who?
I have been using this chart since early 2018 and it has been shockingly accurate.
Yes agree we are front running at the moment. The longer term consequences are not so clear.
It also says the date of bottom. One was on 15 Jan 2015 other was 15 Dec 2018. Near future will give us answers on this. But I would just in case suggest everyone to fill the bags before start of September. There is long 4 months to do that. Those that will wait until November will need much more luck to get cheap Bitcoins.
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Post 50614774 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
Poor Elwar
Such a shame.
I hope this won't smash the dream or hit him too hard financially. Dude is a an inspiration and I tip my hat to him for perusing liberty & sovereignty.
Somehow I'm not surprised TPTB crashed the party so easily. Guess you can't just step over the government no matter what loophole you exploit. Hoping he'll bounce from this and BTC will offer a much better opportunity soon.
Spar can be easily moved to new location. So yes ofcourse wee costs to set it in this place, but I am sure he will survive.
They accused Chad Andrew Elwartowski and his Thai wife, Supranee Thepdet, with an English alias of Nadia Summergirl, of breaching Section 119 of Criminal Code. The section concerns any acts that cause the country or parts of it to fall under the sovereignty of a foreign state or deterioration of the state's independence.
That part is a total bullshit. Whoever will try to prove this will have serious troubles.
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Post 50615072 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
...
It seems like it's already in the process of being destroyed.
Yes I posted to fast before I read the rest of posts, but your last post made me confused.
Statement from Chad Elwartowski:
Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.
If this is true then Thai army claims might be more true then what I thought so far.
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Post 50616702 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe46:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts.
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Post 50619850 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe46:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts.
I don't think that debt will disappear and I don't think debt is inherently a problem. Out of control debt and bailouts at tax payers' expense are the issue. There is and always will be need and use for debt though.
Who will loan something that will gain price in year fro like 10%. Or more? I mean you will take small loans fro something that will bring you huge profit. But it will not be like there is today when they dont even want to sell you a car unless you take it on loan. Or when countries have for half year of production of debt. If not they looks stupid. Trust me this will stop.
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Post 50650482 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):
Last time this cross happened it went to the moon.
On picture you posted it crossed 3 times. June, September and October. Maybe it did more times but red line starts from June. Yes in October when those lines crossed the last time the bull run started. I believe right now we are in June 2015 and we might get two or more crossing in next months before getting excited.
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Post 50709895 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):
Article seems confused. They say 'Bitcoin', but they say these are proposed for the Hyperledger Fabric -- which is itself a permissioned blockchain.
And of course there is the obligatory quote from LaGarde on her delay/obstruct/slowyourroll policy, while trying to seem supportive. Yes, she sees the tsunami on its way.
Also a Bitcoin bond? Is author of that article crazy. Who on earth would issue a bond in currency that will make x100 in next 10 years. That way they will pay, ... Well let me start differently. That way they will bankrupt their country.
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Post 50713153 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):
Looks fucking scary. If they asked me to paint the most horrific bear run, I would exactly paint it like this. It is long, it is not directly going down, it is a fucking torture. You think going from 6k to 3k was bad? Pray it doesn't go below.
It will not go under $1200. Whoever was dreaming months ago about that is just a dreamer. Right now is not a dreamer anymore but an idiot. Even sub $2000 should never happen. $3200 as it was is just perfect. Yes it can go there in next 4 months, but most likely will dip to like $3600 minimum. Come on. $1200. Really? Bitcoin was $1200, 5 and half years ago.
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Post 50713668 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):
China is “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which translates to hyper-capitalism.
The USA is far more socialist than China.
Funny how socialists always claim that the socialist countries aren't really socialist.
China left socialism 40 years ago. Of course slow at start. Right now is in many aspects way more liberal capitalist country as is Trump USA. If China would stay socialist until today would not become strongest economy. Impossible.
Maybe Venezuela is not socialist either. I donno, I am starting to get very lost on this subject.
Venezuela is socialist. Venezuela and China are opposite. China is Communist society system and capitalist economic system. Venezuela have democratic society system and socialist economic system.
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Post 50753630 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
Whilst we’re dumping?
Coincidence?
LOL
Disney is buying Bitstamp and Korbit. I guess they are installing Mickey Mouse on Bitstamp now.
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Post 50761537 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
OMG 71 millions Americans in Mexico? When they are building the wall?
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Post 50772617 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
lol at monero
The fuck happened to Monero? I realized fully anonymous shitcoins are a risk and decided to stay away from playing with em.
I have no ideas what happened. But if it is KYC then .... KYC is Monero biggest strength. Once you have linked identity to the address in transparent ledger crypto currency then all that wealth there is linked to identity. Once you have linked identity to an address on opaque ledger crypto currency then all you have to do is to sent on new address and it simply unlinks. Just like that
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Post 50810845 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
Bitcoin trading volume in Thailand soars after seasteading fiasco.
It seems Elwar finally found his private keys.
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Post 50813330 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
According to this graph made by PlanB, after the halving of 2024 his model is calling a BTC price of USD 400,000.
I dont like this graph. Because it have same factor for every halving but emission inflation keeps decreasing. So supply pressure from freshly mined coins is smaller and smaller.
When first halving happened in 2012. 50% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 3600 BTC gave us 0.03425% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 12.5% yearly emission inflation
When last halving happened in 2016. 75% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 1800 BTC gave us 0.01142% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 4.17% yearly emission inflation
At next halving next year 87% of all bitcoins will be already mined and daily emission of 900 BTC will give us 0.00489% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 1.78% yearly emission inflation
12.5/4.17 is more then 4.17/1.78. So impact of halving on price of Bitcoin is decreasing.
BTW Gold average yearly mining inflation is 1.6%
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Post 50823195 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
According to this graph made by PlanB, after the halving of 2024 his model is calling a BTC price of USD 400,000.
I dont like this graph. Because it have same factor for every halving but emission inflation keeps decreasing. So supply pressure from freshly mined coins is smaller and smaller.
When first halving happened in 2012. 50% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 3600 BTC gave us 0.03425% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 12.5% yearly emission inflation
When last halving happened in 2016. 75% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 1800 BTC gave us 0.01142% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 4.17% yearly emission inflation
At next halving next year 87% of all bitcoins will be already mined and daily emission of 900 BTC will give us 0.00489% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 1.78% yearly emission inflation
12.5/4.17 is more then 4.17/1.78. So impact of halving on price of Bitcoin is decreasing.
BTW Gold average yearly mining inflation is 1.6%
I am not really getting your point.
Firstly this Stock to flow is not a new concept. As far as I know it was proposed in the bitcoin environment in by Saifedean Ammous in his book
The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking.
Second stock to flow is actually the inverse of inflation rate, so if you are countering this with inflation rate you are actually using the same argument for and against this graph.
Thirdly i get you didn't get the point when saying "halving" are less and less relevant: the opposite is actually true as Stock to Flow is increasing dramatically (and this is a choice made by Satoshi when defining the protocol).
"halving" are less and less relevant
to the price. This table have factor 8. Price increase every halving for 8 times. That have no sense. Impact of halving on price decreases with every halving. If it had factor 8 at last halving then will have less on this halving and had more on previous halving. This is my point. Ofcourse is impossible to see this from price graphs since emission inflation just adds pressure to price increase, but there are also other factors. Or better example to be more clear. If USD will not have huge inflation in next 10 years we will for sure not see a $2.8m bitcoin around year 2028.
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Post 50823366 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
According to this graph made by PlanB, after the halving of 2024 his model is calling a BTC price of USD 400,000.
I dont like this graph. Because it have same factor for every halving but emission inflation keeps decreasing. So supply pressure from freshly mined coins is smaller and smaller.
When first halving happened in 2012. 50% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 3600 BTC gave us 0.03425% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 12.5% yearly emission inflation
When last halving happened in 2016. 75% of all Bitcoin was mined and daily emission of 1800 BTC gave us 0.01142% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 4.17% yearly emission inflation
At next halving next year 87% of all bitcoins will be already mined and daily emission of 900 BTC will give us 0.00489% daily emission inflation what is if we multiply with 365 days = 1.78% yearly emission inflation
12.5/4.17 is more then 4.17/1.78. So impact of halving on price of Bitcoin is decreasing.
BTW Gold average yearly mining inflation is 1.6%
I am not really getting your point.
Firstly this Stock to flow is not a new concept. As far as I know it was proposed in the bitcoin environment in by Saifedean Ammous in his book
The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking.
Second stock to flow is actually the inverse of inflation rate, so if you are countering this with inflation rate you are actually using the same argument for and against this graph.
Thirdly i get you didn't get the point when saying "halving" are less and less relevant: the opposite is actually true as Stock to Flow is increasing dramatically (and this is a choice made by Satoshi when defining the protocol).
"halving" are less and less relevant
to the price. This table have factor 8. Price increase every halving for 8 times. That have no sense. Impact of halving on price decreases with every halving. If it had factor 8 at last halving then will have less on this halving and had more on previous halving. This is my point. Ofcourse is impossible to see this from price graphs since emission inflation just adds pressure to price increase, but there are also other factors.
This model is not black magic.
The author used data from 2009-2012 (note: no halving included) and found it pretty accurately as it was able to forecast BTC prices up to 2017.
So your "make no sense" collides with an R^" of 95%: pretty high confidence level for a coincidence or spurious correlation, also when you have a strong rationale.
Just take numbers yourself. it is not correct.
Let me go now with this stock of flow. It is just opposite of how I calculated it.
For 2012 9.5, for 2016 should be 24 and for 2020 56.
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Post 50825169 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
I see his flaw. "Bitcoin currently have a stock of 17.5m" Then he uses this 17.5m as that was stock in 2012 and 2016 and 2020 and 2024 and 2028.
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Post 50825927 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):
I see his flaw. "Bitcoin currently have a stock of 17.5m" Then he uses this 17.5m as that was stock in 2012 and 2016 and 2020 and 2024 and 2028.
Negative.
For past analysis he uses historical BTC supply, for future, projected one.
Two evidences for that:
1. In the coloured graph, SF data between halvings change every month, so by construction stock cannot be the same, montly, let alone from 2012 to 2012 and beyond.
2. In the Github there's an excel where you can check he uses historically accurate suplly for all the calculations.
So how he calculated Stock of flow for 2012 halving is 12.5 if it was 8?
At that moment there were 10,512,000 BTC in existence and yearly emission was 1.314,000 (3600*365) 10512000/1314000=8
Does he calculate for some other Bitcoin?
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Post 50852872 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):
The monthly update:
In April we saw more green, very pleasing. The work is done, some Satoshis have been accumulated. I'm out to enjoy a spring walk with my dearest.
Enjoy the first of May, WOs!
Scary. 3 green months in a row. So far happened only 6 times to have 4 or more months in a row. So guess what statistic propose us for May?
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Post 50853984 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):
The monthly update:
In April we saw more green, very pleasing. The work is done, some Satoshis have been accumulated. I'm out to enjoy a spring walk with my dearest.
Enjoy the first of May, WOs!
Scary. 3 green months in a row. So far happened only 6 times to have 4 or more months in a row. So guess what statistic propose us for May?
before that we had 6 red months in a row for the first time. What does that tell us about statistics?
I love statistic. Although it looks boring it never is. Oh and when i checked again I see was only 4 times. I wanted to say that 6 times is not that low. 4 times is semi low. It is highly unlikely to have 2 more months in green.
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Post 50872947 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):
Bitcoin sign guy is a Shitcoiner now.
This 2 guys looks same to you?
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Post 50912267 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):
BS, no way this is happening. We're not going back to $4k. Too many greedy bears with empty bags. They're all f*cked they will have to buy @$5k+
I am not saying we are getting to $4000 or sub $4000. But. It can happen. All fundamentals are up. But people never cared about fundamentals. There is no interest for Bitcoin outside of those that stick with crypto over whole 2018 and now. The rest of the world dont care. Few bad news and then whales start shorting and we are at $4000. But who cares about that. That $4000 will only be a bear trap. Great opportunity for some, yes. If we would be in autumn then I would most likely totally agree with you. But right now we are many months away.
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Post 50937655 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):
LFC, if we could just turn back time to that 150$ price .....
$3200 was new $150. We will have new chance 4 years form now at like $40k
Push recent chart 2 months ahead and we are not that much out of sync. We are at start of July 2015 now. Unless bull market started in February and we will not see any serious correction anytime soon.
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Post 50950368 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):
So what do you trolls and so called geniuses think of the btc price 6 months from now?
$9000, but I am getting confused now since some say that bull run started in February.
CZ...you said safu?
apparently the hot wallet at Binance lost 7k corn...ouch.
Glad that they don't want a BTC rollback...
That would be ******.
That would be attack on Bitcoin so attack on all of us. What would lead to end of Binance. What CZ needs is a Bitcoin class, so he learns the basics how Bitcoin works. That way he will learn what gives Bitcoin value and he might cherish it more to not lose it like this. Immutability is one of most important Bitcoin traits.
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Post 50980161 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):
I would agree with that premise, of longer waves, but not to that extent. Looking at the whole long term chart, I estimate the peak-to-peaks of 2011-2013 and 2013-2017 being 30 months and 48 months respectively. That would indicate the next p-to-p be roughly 66 months ie 2017-2023 (June).
Its a long wait, but not considering the enormous amount of price work to be done: the next peak could be upwards of 80k
Bitcoin halve every 4 years. So cycle cant prolong. I mean of course one will be shorter then other, but they will not prolong with every next cycle. What will happen is that impact of halving will be weaker with every halving. If last time price went from $1200 to $20000 this time will not go 20000/1200=16.6 times up, but less.
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Post 51004926 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):
When was last time that price increased 15% in a day?
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Post 51029683 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):
This fools’ rally has set us back for at least another year.
Whatchu on about? You still think the bottoms not in? REALLY?
The move is going too fast. It will break if not already the case. Buyers will be wondering where their $100k Bitcoin is. Delusion and sorrow will spread. Price will be sideways and choppy for months/a year. No one will touch the Bitcoin for considerable time. At least, not the masses who’s influx should bring us towards $100k.
Or do you think moms and pops are buying into and causing the current rally?
Someone is continuously off loading coins, big time
Suckers’ rally.
No one promised $100k BTC before 2021. Only thing that can set us back a year is a new financial crisis. And that can actually happen in the next 2 years. But on the long run Bitcoin need a new financial crisis, whenever it will happen, to strengthen itself.
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Post 51038072 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):
I am getting scared to to see the price increase of bitcoin.
Will there be any corrections with these huge bumps?
How can you be scared now when price is $9k and for months it was $9k or more, but you were not scared 1.5 years ago when price was $15k+?
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Post 51072134 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):
I need the guy who is good at summarizing WO events 🙂
https://gyazo.com/00521652433c7f90ca0248c25f7e230b
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Post 51081792 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):
This chart shows we are not going below 6k anymore.
The expansion phase looks like a mini-bull market, and the reaccumulation is sidelined.
So everything is working as planned?
Yes, but this halvening-centric model is very conservative.
We need to consider the institutional money, and the acceleration it would bring. Jbreher posted about a $133k target in march 2020, I cant find his post right now.
Next cycle ATH will be much earlier then last simply because everyone expect it will happen and will want to be earlier then others. But March 2020, that is before actual halving, is way to early.
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Post 51087208 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):
If bull run had not yet started then only point similar to last cycle is that we are right before beartrap. Jully 2015. But with more days that passes and higher price Bitcoin gets, there is less and less chances for that.
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Post 51197440 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):
The price is about $3k higher than it should be at this part of the cycle. We are already higher than what the December 2019 peak should be. It’s all gravy.
Am I the only one kind of wishing their lives away until a point in the future, probably late 2021 or something?
No, I've got kind of a low key depression going on. I should be enjoying every moment of life, but I feel like I'm just going through the motions every day and just trying to "survive" until I can retire within 2-3 years, hopefully.
It makes me wish I was in a coma for three years. ATM, I'd probably be happier if I never heard of bitcoin. Weird situation
And I feel bad for feeling bad about this.
We need a fucking therapist in this thread.
I don't know your personal situation in real life but here is absolutely no reason to be stressed at the moment.
This new bull-run has started earlier than we all expected, which is good news to reach your retirement goal even faster.
All metrics across the boards showing bullish signs. Development and adoption looks very solid.
Think what you will do when you reached retirement fase.
We all should be very grateful sitting in this golden position, the profits we make are life changing. Billions of people will not have this opportunity.
Relax and start planning to make your dreams come true. Financial freedom at the horizon is imo already a certain outcome.
Exactly!!
2 years from now yes we will be much richer but soon after that bear market will start. I like this point in time way better and all the sweet moments that will happen until 2 years from now. Rather then fast forwarding this 2 years I would fast forward year 2021 into 2023. But I also suspect this halving will be last with big impact on Bitcoins price.
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Post 51235646 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):
Gold Bar 400 oz = Chart1 BTC = under 10 BTC this year?
No way. Bitcoin is only warming up. 600% in 7 months are a bit to much. Most likely next year.
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Post 51287532 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):
Looks like $40k might be the next ATH, $50k at best. Care to take a look and tell me what you think? Is he too conservative? Or realistic?
It is to early. That graph shows ATH at end for this year. That is impossible to happen since halving is only next year. Usually new ATH happened a year latter. But this time will earlier then that but still not half year before halving. If this chart moves to end of 2020 you will get way higher number.
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Post 51307784 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):
The monthly update:
Amazing. 4 green months. This was so unexpected. Only 2 times in past we had 5 straight green months. Can it happen again?
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Post 51309397 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.49h):
Toxic2040 is right.
Forget the overlay.
Ok lads give us a road map for the next 3 years. Here is mine. Give us something better to work from.
I made just 2 years and a bit since then should be new ATH.
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Post 51376955 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):
This is November/December 2015 all over, its pretty much the same.
So whole sweet 2016 and 2017 ahead of us.
Life simply cant get better then that.
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Post 51429981 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):
How about LITECOIN ?
Halving coming up in about 60 days
How high can it go?
that is the question
Last time it pumped like 40 days before halving. Now we are like 2 weeks until that point. After pump it slowly went to same levels as before. Did pump already happened this time?
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Post 51477855 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):
Bitcoin hashrate just hit an all-time high
Found this on reddit it seems we just hit September 2018 levels. So it took around 9 months for the new ATH. Last cycle happened much faster and took only few months.
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Post 51562042 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):
Remember this Bitcoin specialists. He failed for only a year and a bit. If we are lucky.
https://twitter.com/charlieshrem/status/992109375555858433
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Post 51587649 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):
OK, made by own "2017 vs 2019" overlay:
It is totally possible. I started speculate that we will have two bull runs in this cycle same as it was in 2013. April and November runs. So we reach ATH of this run at end of this or beginning of next year and then crash. I doubt there will be a 80% crash. And a year latter we have the final bull run of this 2020 halving Bitcoin cycle.
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Post 51609453 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):
XMR/BTC just made a nose dive.
0.0083. I care because it is the only notable altcoin I hodl (Less than %1) and I think it is not really shit. Globb0 do something.
Well you hold even less then 1% now. So if it continue you might end under invested.
I gave up on Monero a long time ago sadly. I disagree with its tail emissions monetary policy.
It will be super helpful with having low fees. The emission or as is now modern to say Stock to flow will go under Bitcoins in August for almost 10 years.
And congrats to bitebits he was off only 6 days and considering his prediction lasted whole bear market, that is nothing.
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Post 51609597 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):
This is unsustainable. The price will be under $10k before the end of the year, and stay there until Libra takes over. Bitcoin is done. Short bitcoin.
Should not you avoid posting during the bull runs?
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Post 51613876 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):
This is insane. How many daily +20% happened in last years? Trust me not many. When we hit $20k, then real shit will start.
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Post 51626470 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):
So far 25% crash from the AYH. Not impressed. Hodlers lose nothing, only weak hands lose, as always.
Yes it was total manipulation. 25% up in two days and 25% down in one day. Daytraders could halve their Bitcoin stack in short 3 days.
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Post 51659139 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):
You think the present day power consumption of Bitcoin can increase by two orders of magnitude? HAHAHAHAHA.
A lot of energy will get consummated to secure Bitcoin network once Bitcoin goes over few 100k. But it will not be just increase of energy, but the energy will get more expensive.What is logical when there is higher demand, and that will make that less energy will be needed to secure Bitcoin network. Or let me explain it more simple. 50 times higher Bitcoin price dont means 50 times more energy needed to secure network, but only 25 times more if energy become once more expensive.
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Post 51686101 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):
He is by far most sane exchange owner. He started by that he have no ideas about tether, but still he can see if same happens on Kraken then so silly to doubt in tether. But people will just keep pushing their book. A soon as they will sold BTC they will start FUDing about tether and hope price fall down. In general is funny to see all this inflow of fiat into crypto, but price barely moves up or even go down. Although tether is keep getting printed and all other exchanges keep getting more and more fiat coming in. What will happen once tether will start to get liquidated and also other exchanges will have more withdrawals then deposits. What will happen with price then.
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Post 51799012 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):
You're trying to distract us from dominoes aren't you.
Nice try, but careful. Remember Kathleen's bike.
Aye quite possible. I do not get the reference about the Kathleen's bike..
LOL :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-Adcb8yRQ Is this the " Kathleen's bike " ?
It's okay son.
Being smart is definitely not one of your strong features.
On the other hand - making us laugh hard - is.
What's the price for nothing in return today? Wild guess, 50
BTC only?
Wow you are one of those disbelievers to the core aren't you?
I am smart in certain areas where i fall out as a dumb cave man in others..
Am glad you are getting a chuckle out of this
The price for bringing countless new people to the Crypto Community is still 100
BTC so do not get butt hurt because i can do it and you can not
Have a little faith will ya, because it is my dream to do it just not for free
50% now and 50% after we are done
Specualtion after we are done : Price over $40k
Why dont you do like the rest of us. Buy 100 BTC for $12000 then pump it to $40000 and then dump and that is it. You can buy 200 BTC if you are that greedy.
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Post 51844664 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):
Theres something wrong with Grand Cycle 4.
There is nothing wrong. It will be just more like GC2 then GC3. I mean how will chart look. Price increase will be of course smaller then in both. Most likely smaller from GC3 for the same factor as was in GC3 smaller from GC2. We will have bumpy road ahead. And we should all pray that Trump stay president until elections. He will not let recession happen until then.
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Post 51904371 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):
There is something very dangerous about the gold based economy.
I am sure most people who follow this topic are aware of this, gold isn't limited supply. Gold supply is infinite.
The technology being used to extract gold from soil is finite.
Gold is in the sea, in the ground, in the space it is every where. Just because we are extracting it from dirt doesn't mean there won't be any new tech which is going to extract gold from ocean water. Maybe it is already here we don't know about it...
The beauty of bitcoin is, when someone comes up with a new tech ASIC which is better than all the others, you can't really hide it because the total hash power of the network will make a spike.
On the other hand you can't know who's using secret tech to extract gold from the moon soil. When you think like that gold isn't much different than seashells you pick from the ocean. It just takes a bit more work. When you come up with a tech which reduces that work amount, gold is done. No different than a fucking pebble.
I would bet on that it is already happening.
If we forget the gold from space. It is hard for me to speculate about that but, the infinity argument. Added supply each year is as it is. It is finite. On average in last decades was from 1-1.5% of total supply. That is fixed finite number. What is unknown with any natural item is that you dont know what will be 10 years from now. With Bitcoin you know exactly. When we compare gold to Bitcoin one thing is sure. Next year Bitcoins yearly emission inflation will get really close to Golds mining inflation.
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Post 51913087 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):
LOL in Europe only 99% of members of royal families and the rest of blue bloods are inbreed.
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Post 51935115 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):
Time pass so fast
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Post 51970118 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.
Ready to make a bet on it ?
I bet NO at 99%.
Second that. 99.999%
You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.
See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.
So Bet or not ? If there is an escrow here for the bet.
1 BTC ?
wtf has betting got to do with any of this ? You think just because your hopium's strong the appraisal's wrong ?
The points are well made - in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made so the guy is reasonable in looking at the longer term picture.
But is fundamentally wrong. Halving is every 4 years. So cycles are not getting longer. Yes, they will not be same length, but some shorter then other. I believe current will be shorter then last. What we know is that cycles will be weaker. And most people already put that factor in their prediction charts.
This video mentions that currently we can be in fake bull run. What is true. Depends how you look at things or of a mayor bull run in a cycle or of several smaller ones during one cycle. Yes we are to high right now. But we will definitely not hit the bottom. There is less then 300 days to the halving. And already two times whole world saw halving in action. They will not want to stay behind.
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Post 51994390 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
Dammit page 24
666 Observing BTC @ 9,499 USD
Lets hope soon this two numbers will match.
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Post 52020133 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
Meanwhile another lil pump?
Bitcoin derivatives provider LedgerX announced it has launched the first physically-settled bitcoin futures contracts in the U.S. Wednesday.
It looks like BAAKT hype was not so silly after all. LedgerX launched earlier and it seems pushed price of Bitcoin up.
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Post 52038881 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
That is one year old chart. And it is currently totally off. Just put in the current price in and see how far it is from the line. I have no ideas what you see is to good here. It is telling us that bottom had not happened yet.
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Post 52058393 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
Grin team fucked up the economics, same mistake as Monero.
Monero supply schedule is really good almost perfect. Somehow is misunderstood by some. Right now Monero stock to flow is 26 while Bitcoins is 27.2, while Gold is around 60. This looks quite similar to me. But in next 10 years Monero stock to flow ratio will increase faster then Bitcoins. And in a year it will be way higher then of the Gold one forever. But it will never get to high to make us worry.
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Post 52058474 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
I argued the mere fact that Beam is not a shitcoin after someone mentioned that it was. Happy speculation, I will probably check in after another 3 years.
No one will use company/foundation/corporation/country/whatever owned coins. Specially with alternatives they have.
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Post 52061914 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
I argued the mere fact that Beam is not a shitcoin after someone mentioned that it was. Happy speculation, I will probably check in after another 3 years.
No one will use company/foundation/corporation/country/whatever owned coins. Specially with alternatives they have.
Data show otherwise
Unknown amount of Monero gets transacted daily.
You should definitely listen to Libra hearings. You will realize in a second why people will rather choose permissionless coins.
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Post 52064066 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):
same mistake as Monero.
Wrong a tiny tail emission that supports mining is not infinite coins.
Tail emission forever *is* infinite coins. Monero’s tail emission rate is 3.6%.
Bitcoin’s current inflation rate is 3.87%. In May 2020 Bitcoin’s inflation rate will be less than Monero’s tail emission rate and will keep falling. Monero will never match Bitcoin as a store of value.
The transaction fees on Monero are sufficiently horrifying that there is plenty there to support mining.
Tail emission is a fatal flaw.
Monero have perfect emission. Current Monero emission inflation rate is 3.84% You can daily check it here:
https://moneroinfo.herokuapp.com/Bitcoins current inflation rate is 3.68% and Golds 1.7% Monero tail emission will be 0.8% so more then half less then Golds and more then 4 times less then Bitcoins at this moment. If you think that i s a lot, then you really dislike Bitcoins.
Overall in next 20 years Monero, Bitcoin and Gold mining emissions will be quite close together. No huge differences. All will be scarce and none will have problems with to low emission.
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Post 52114482 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.58h):
reaching 70% dominance. on cmc, which was always rigged in favour of alts.
BTC dominance was always over 80% until the BCH split happened. From that moment on. Or better to say a bit before that, was always uncertainty. Not just BCH steal dominance but also ETH, which many considered as BTC version two. But it ended just as a platform to crowdfund founds with illegal securities. And it seems it lasted for two whole years.
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Post 52243004 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):
Kindly drag your pathetic ass to the relative thread alev.
I don't understand why I should have to read this idiotic - full of shit vision propaganda here. r0achie is more than enough.
BTW Aleksandr is a fucking moronic retard, he is free to suck CW's dick obviously, but honestly we don't need to know about it.
Well there is always the ignore option. Has worked flawlessly for years.
Regarding block size, LukeDash jr is working hard at decreasing it to 300k and effectively kill the BTC blockchain to move forward with segwit only
You cant decrease it now. That train left few years ago. Now number of transactions is higher and will only increase. In first years blocks were empty and would be totally normal to reduce block size.
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Post 52254158 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):
Meantime:
This altcoin looks, one day of school smarter from bitcoin.
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Post 52261942 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):
Returns during the Trump presidency
So you are saying Trump is reason why Bitcoin gained 20 times in last 3.5 years?
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Post 52292867 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):
Thing is that when recession happens and GDP start falling down and government start spend more to revive economy then debt makes a huge leg up. So if you have now 100% you will have then 130% or 150% almost instantly. So all countries should decrease it drastically in last 5 years, but 3/4 of them totally failed.
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Post 52304056 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
Let me explain it like this:
When I was really panicking in 2014,
I was trading on btc-e and I had like 2 btc on the exchange and I was playing the trading game. (buy high, sell low)
For example:
When it was Around $800. I sold some, but guess what? It went up instead of going down! Wtf, What to do now? Of course I bought back as soon as it went down to $825 from 850. Then it went down even further to $600.
That's how I used to panic. Stupid old days.
Then for a year or 2, I never touched BTC. Then started stacking in late 2016 with the new rules. I am still following those rules. So far so good.
LOL, well if you would not changed the pattern you would most likely not be here anymore. I doubt there is anyone that did not at least tried to daytrade. Some learn faster then others, that that they would better do if they would just wist a casino.
About the price. We all must not forget we are still in 2015. Yes it looked we are not anymore, but that was just an illusion.
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Post 52312252 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
About the price. We all must not forget we are still in 2015. Yes it looked we are not anymore, but that was just an illusion.
In all honesty from a TA perspective most of the charts dont look terrible imho...except perhaps the weekly. The wave packets of all the different time frames oscillate in and out of harmonics and at this time whilst most time frames show bullish or near bullish indicators the weekly has flipped to what I would call a bearish formation. Its really not even that..its actually neutral but seems to be trending towards bearish.
I think the main difference today is that back in 2015 there was a real possibility that the great experiment could fail and many were fearful of not having a chair when the music stopped. I am fairly confident we are past that now and bitcoin is here to stay.
Also worth mentioning is that all we have known is the pump and dump mentality. We havent even reached peak adoption yet and the stability it might bring. 10 years later and many forget how early it still is in the game.
I am not saying that anything looks terrible. It just dont looks as bright as those 5 months of constant growth at start of this years looked like. When Bitcoin reached $13000 most here thought we are months or half year from breaking $20k. But reality that if we learn from past is that we are not. Most people ( not on this forum, but people in general) today still believe Bitcoin experiment will fail, same as in the 2015. For sure there are more believers today then back then and that is why price is $10000 today and not $500 and less. It is just because more people believe in Bitcoin.
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Post 52321523 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
Now they don't know if they have Gold or Tungsten.
Italy is rich. They just keep complaining how much problems they have, but never even think of selling gold to fix those problems.
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Post 52328425 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
Edit: this graph has no sense in my opinion
Italy has 2,450 tons of gold (71458330 Troy oz) this equates to 100 billions @1,500 usd oz (various sources confirm this calculations).
This should be roughly 10,000,000 bitcoins @10,000 btc usd.
Am I missing something?
It is probably calculated from other side, not from the price but from holdings. They summed all gold that countries (probably they did not count holdings of individuals) hold and then gave them share of 17 ( or maybe 21) million Bitcoin.
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Post 52348946 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
2015 fractal that everyone loves to hate
Not everyone
If this amplification still hold we can expect 25K by end of October. Less than 60 days.
Crossing fingers.
LOL Yes, but what October. Definitely not the one 60 days from now. This chart is totally clear there.
Difference between 2015 and 2019 is that back then we had sideways and the up now we had up and then sideways. Different play but same result.
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Post 52355662 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
2015 fractal that everyone loves to hate
Not everyone
If this amplification still hold we can expect 25K by end of October. Less than 60 days.
Crossing fingers.
LOL Yes, but what October. Definitely not the one 60 days from now. This chart is totally clear there.
Difference between 2015 and 2019 is that back then we had sideways and the up now we had up and then sideways. Different play but same result.
Why not? In fact new ATH in November-December is very feasible. Actually now it's up, sideways and MORE UP.
Everything is possible. But considering this chart, that transplant last bitcoin cycle to current one is not showing.
Oh and I just read in local newspaper of President of association of banks explaining how are negative interest rates normal and telling that IMF is thinking of banning cash so people will really spend those money and not just take it out of banks and store it at home. I dont get how stupid they think we are. But on other hand if we are stupid enough to totally gave up our privacy we are ready o give up cash also.
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Post 52366576 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
It would be a nice irony if the outcome of Brexit was a break up of Great Britain with Scotland achieving independence and Northern Ireland joining Ireland while England and Wales stay in the EU.
But when you play with matches, sometimes shit catches on fire, yo.
Sounds Just like the bitcoin forks fractal delusions
Fuck the EU dictatorship.
You wanted to say UK dictatorship over Northern Ireland and Scotland?
Brexit was orchestrated from outside of UK. With plan to weaken EU and UK. Divide and conquer. By those that EU is competitor, so mainly United States ( amazing ally we have) and China. Possibly someone else like Russia or Saudis. Those that planed it give a shit about UK and if will still have Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland. Not having it should actually better fit their agenda. They exactly knew what will happen. They knew all united Europe will stand behind Ireland and there will be no border on the island of Ireland ever again.
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Post 52378094 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.00h):
It would be a nice irony if the outcome of Brexit was a break up of Great Britain with Scotland achieving independence and Northern Ireland joining Ireland while England and Wales stay in the EU.
But when you play with matches, sometimes shit catches on fire, yo.
Sounds Just like the bitcoin forks fractal delusions
Fuck the EU dictatorship.
You wanted to say UK dictatorship over Northern Ireland and Scotland?
Brexit was orchestrated from outside of UK. With plan to weaken EU and UK. Divide and conquer. By those that EU is competitor, so mainly United States ( amazing ally we have) and China. Possibly someone else like Russia or Saudis. Those that planed it give a shit about UK and if will still have Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland. Not having it should actually better fit their agenda. They exactly knew what will happen. They knew all united Europe will stand behind Ireland and there will be no border on the island of Ireland ever again.
If youre saying Nigel Farage could have been helped/funded by external influences, then maybe. But theres no need for conspiracies. We have the bogey man. Its Nigel Farage, and he is definitely not afraid to be that bogey man.
As far as i know, WTO rules demand that Ireland/EU erect a physical border, in the absence of any deal/agreement. But actually wont happen. Not because of any stand, but because any official/s that are involved in Irish physical borders gets a bullet with their name on it from the IRA, and bombs start going off in London, Dublin and Brussels.
Well the UK, could do what ever the fuck they want then, they're a sovereign nation, it's Ireland who would have to obey demands from Brussels.
Uh no sir the brits are a small part of the EU. They are not a sovereign nation, and certainly no democracy.
Once they are out they can have their own border rules, it's Ireland being forced by the EU to have a physical barrier or am I somehow wrong?
They will not be allowed to leave.
I dont knwo what you two are talking about.
Right now Ireland island is without border between Irish people that live in Ireland and on Northern Ireland that is part of UK. Once UK leave EU, Ireland demand that such border dont appear. And whole Europe will stand beside our Irish brothers. Because we are One! Their rights are our rights. Fuck with Ireland, fuck with us all.
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Post 52427604 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):
If we are here to observe, i´ll do it..
I observe more blue each period.. more blue dots, and with a higher slope
I observe green and yellow dots having lesser slope..
and i observe less red dots each period..
so, my l33t TA skillz tell me to join the peaks and... hmm.. expect a 2000% by 2021 ?
Thats the best i can do. I just got meal and my stomach is having all the blood. My brain is idling.
So $200k.... I'm OK with that...
2000% of $3500 is $70k. That is a bit pessimistic prognosis to me.
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Post 52482542 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.01h):
My theory about this is that when the mainstream coins like Libra hit the market, they will bring the Bitcoin dominance down because they will be pumped/inflated.
Im sure next year we will see Google, Apple, Amazon, etc all jump in. Bitcoins dominance will have to compete with those coins to which would likely bring the dominance down.
CMC can suck anything for money but I think even they haven't lost their mind that much to list Libra as a cryptocurrency.
I don't believe Facebook will join that MarketCap rat-race neither.
There is no reasons that Libra will not be on CMC. Of course it will. There are a lot of tokens there. What CMC should do is to make different lists and not mix pears with apples.
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Post 52498591 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):
We will never go below $9000 ever again, ever. No golden retrace coming, when bitcoin did a golden retrace in past bull market, it didn't take 80+ days to do it, it happened with a week or so.
That is bold prediction since we are nto taht far away from it. I totaly agree with you that we cant go that much lower as we are now, but less then 10% drop is totally posible. There is maybe even more then 50% chance that it wil happen.
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Post 52510097 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):
We will never go below $9000 ever again, ever. No golden retrace coming, when bitcoin did a golden retrace in past bull market, it didn't take 80+ days to do it, it happened with a week or so.
That is bold prediction since we are nto taht far away from it. I totaly agree with you that we cant go that much lower as we are now, but less then 10% drop is totally posible. There is maybe even more then 50% chance that it wil happen.
We will
definitely go below $9,000 again. And soon.
OMG. Your aperence on the forum is super bad for low prices
I was expecting sideways until christmass. Now this hmm.
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Post 52535831 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):
Hey brothers! So now we're waiting till BAKKT runs out of
BTC they have in their initial stash? Mmmmkey...
Yup. We have time. We had been waiting only 3 years for famous Gemini exchnage to have some impact. It can happen anytime.
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Post 52555423 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.02h):
One thing is sure by now. FED dont print those $75 billion a night to buy Bitcoin.
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Post 52584073 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):
Care to explain why?
Caring about the environment is for pussies. You're supposed to eat raw meat and fart diesel fumes if you want to be a right wing Alpha in this day and age. If you want to prove yourself go bleach a coral reef and burn down a rain forest.
He dont care of environment. He care of his electricity. He is producing it for himself. You depend on the country to provide it for you. Who is socialist here? You are.
Future and in soem countries allready a reality is that everyoen will produce electricity and freely trade it with whoever eh wil want. Or donate it to whoever he wil want. And buy it from whoever he will want. No matter what you socialist will want to tell us!!!
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Post 52606717 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.03h):
New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.
Yup and most likely Evan Duffield coin will have 90% coinmarketcap dominance, the same amount of master nodes he own
Stupidity just never stop at some group of people.
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Post 52716776 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):
Also, that 95% can't be separated from the real 5% in a reliable way that prevents the fake/unregulated/manipulated exchanges from affecting the price of the real exchanges.
What could not be done yesterday can be done tomorrow. I see a lot of efforts by many to find real volume. But most exchanges of course dont want to participate in it since higher volume makes them more appealing to attract the real traders.
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Post 52735665 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):
Him calling it most important is a bit silly. I believe buying pizza or anything else with Bitcoin was way more important. Ha, I just checked the pizza day and 10th anniversary will be right around halving.
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Post 52852691 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):
OK so people can stop panicking & cuckolding, selling all their coins. The Grayscale news was positive, stop dumping & BTFD.
People were brainwashed Bitcoin is new Gold. So when Grayscale investments told them to drop Gold they drop Bitcoin.
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Post 52941660 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):
I sincerely hope that today that is World Savings Day people will ask them self a question why their savings are getting so little interest and why it looks a year or two away from time when they will be getting negative interest rates on their savings.
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Post 52981736 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):
BONUS: Suggest the new poll!
When will be the new ATH?
Choices:
Early 2020
Late 2020
Early 2021
Late 2021
2022
2023
2024
Never
But what does ATH means here. A moment when price will reach over old ATH of 20k and make new all time high, or ATH of the new bitcoin cycle? I voted 2022 for the second. But I believe that Bitcoin will reach $20k much earlier then that.
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Post 53041480 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.06h):
The adoption will be massive in a very short time, since 50% of financial professionals believe that Bitcoin will surpass S&P 500 in 2020
Bitcoin does and will always outpreform S&P 500, except in the year of retracing. After the ATH, so 2014, 2018 and 2022/2023.
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Post 53105094 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):
Bitcoin will not change anything about lending and borrowing. Even if everyone uses Bitcoin, the debt that you or anyone else have will have to be repaid. What Bitcoin will do is that since will not lose value interest rates will not need to be high for lender to profit.
To reduce debt rate something will have to click in our minds. Private debt is huge. Most people are in huge debts. Bitcoin will only worsen this when people will start taking debts to buy Bitcoin.
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Post 53148852 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.07h):
Finally this chart when updated got totally synced. The patient always gets rewarded!
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Post 53171792 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):
don't fight with the Swiss they all have weapons at home.
The also have nuclear shelters at home. Every Swiss home has to be build with nuclear shelter. They definitely have a vision.
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Post 53185389 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):
China banning crypto is always a good laugh, lots of mining and patent applications.
It says blockchain patents. They even made a law that no one can call blockchain a scam or a fraud. Of course they will experiment with block chains greatly.
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Post 53312505 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):
old news just move your repos to gitlabz or peer-to-peer alternatives ;-D ~easy
Best is to have them on both or even more places. If one place gets taken off you still have others. Decentralization means to remove points of failures. Decentralization is never black and white, but of all shades of grey.
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Post 53331057 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.09h):
It's not even 1% of the economic value.
As economic value they took coinmarketcap. Comparing coins coimarketcap with revenue of a market is totally pointless. It dont give you any useful data.
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Post 53429810 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):
Shitcoiner, nobody, attention-whore, segwit2x traitor and all-round ugly girl has opinions:
1/ there is a very real possibility the price of bitcoin does not go up after halving. for the first time, there is a robust derivatives (futures, options) market for bitcoin. most firms looking to speculate on bitcoin will trade a derivative, not the underlying.
She is right at what she is posting latter. But the first post you quoted is really silly. Bitcoin price is so unstable that will be way different next week not just a year from now. The point she is right about is that future trading makes bitcoin more stable. So growths and declines will be less sharp. Both ways will be more stable not just the way up. And that is good, money need to be as stable as can be.
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Post 53490060 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.10h):
I guess this is the decade we had been waiting for.
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Post 53534954 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.11h):
What exactly defines a 'fork'
Bitcoin got forked many times ... not always contentious, but I d say even LTC and ETH are forks - at least from the initial idea - also having lots of Bitcoin's code
There is block chain fork like BCH or protocol fork like LTC. Well you have also soft and hard fork and maybe some more, but not in this context.
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Post 53605046 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):
New ATH
11Year 2020 😜
AYH - All Year High Big question is for how long it will stand. Will be broken next month, next week or tonight.
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Post 53649246 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.12h):
BSV preformed so good while it was lead by someone who could not answer any questions that was asked at all and was dreaming he is Satoshi. What will happen now when some normal capable man will take control of BSV. Extremely bullish!
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Post 53684392 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):
A decade on and 'the great and the good'
still have no clue:
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1219983559710121984It feels like being in the small band of people on top of the hill... being seen, but misunderstood by those below who just can't see the flood waters gathering behind them.
At least being seen. When in 2018 first "crypto" people were invited to Davos was to me totally surreal. And most of those invited had relation to crypto only that they financed their project through crypto with ICO. Now two years latter we at least see people talking in Davos that understand crypto. I guess all were small but important steps to get to where we are now. All this I could not even imagine back in 2014.
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Post 53723406 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.13h):
The threat is real:
BREAKING: First case of coronavirus in Germany
The only good thing about this is that sooner or latter we will run out of people. There I also number of cured. When number of cured will go over number of dead will be also good sign.
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Post 53785069 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.14h):
Marshals Auction is second best cleaning service Bitcoins can have. Best is to mine them or buy virgin Bitcoins. Why would anyone risk mixing coins that were before in a hands of a government with the coins of someone who was paid for a hitjob?
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Post 53810964 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):
Weeee
We are above the line again. To much hype going on.
BTC making me feel like Q3 2017 (when i started)
It is 2016.
Oh and it seems Chinese finally grabbed Coronavirus by their horns. In few days time number of infected will peak and decline will start. Hope something will not go wrong with that.
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Post 53868097 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.15h):
Yesterday was the first day that there were less Coronavirus infected then a day before. 1800 new , 1800 recovered and over 100 dead. It is also slowly getting clear what will be the mortality rate. It should be between 2.7% and 13.8% or all infected. So most likely close to 6%.
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Post 53898370 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):
Why don't you guys talk about an ordinary flu? It kills more than half a million people every year. Instead of that you like to talk about the corona virus? Why?
It is because coronavirus is much harder to stop. Because of so long incubation phase in which it is able to spread. I even heard 27 days. Of course getting a coronavirus is not the end of the world and you have if healthy now a tiny chance to die. But no government will intentionally and open risk any live. They will quarantine and close borders, transit and all economy that is needed. This is the reason why is so much talk about it. Here and everywhere.
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Post 53930106 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):
Well ...interesting....GOLD is down..due to use in manufacturing will slip....stocks are down..bitcoin/crypto is down...so this whole
That is what happens in recessions. Everything loses value. Difference is that some asset recovers faster then others. But officially we will wait many months for a recession. So do get used to of what happened the last week, because we will see a lot of it in the upcoming year.
Recession is/was/will be inevitable. It should happen 2 years ago or will happen 2 years from now if not now. We should just accept it. And no matter how low Bitcoin price will go it is and already was good for Bitcoin. When people learned about Bitcoin in 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015 and .. there was no recession, but they were thinking back then. If I would have all my wealth in Bitcoin in 2008 it would be totally different. So will people think a year and two and 10 years after this recession. Just that now they will have real examples.
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Post 53988969 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):
Bernie could ban Bitcoin in a heartbeat with an executive order.
Governments ban Bitcoin. Allover the world. Specially more autocratic. But then that country main court in case of USA constitutional will over rule that ban. Such things will keep happen. I do not believe Sanders government will be considered as autocratic government.
Any candidate for USA president will be good for Bitcoin. They will all increase public debt. If Tump managed to do that in such economic growth I dont see a hero to do opposite.
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Post 53990800 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):
Bernie could ban Bitcoin in a heartbeat with an executive order.
Governments ban Bitcoin. Allover the world. Specially more autocratic. But then that country main court in case of USA constitutional will over rule that ban. Such things will keep happen. I do not believe Sanders government will be considered as autocratic government.
Any candidate for USA president will be good for Bitcoin. They will all increase public debt. If Tump managed to do that in such economic growth I dont see a hero to do opposite.
Its silly to think a White House full of extreme leftists (communist idealogues) wouldnt be hostile to Bitcoin. Do you think its a coincidence that two out of the four communist countries on Earth have banned Bitcoin in many ways.
Extreme leftists don't like private property, they want the goverment to run everything. They dont want people using money free of censorship that cant be debased. Of course they hate Bitcoin. Bernie would put an army of these people in power.
Bernie is toast, so its a moot point. America isnt trying to go back in time and become the Soviet Union, thats why he was rejected. King Bitcoin wins again.
You dont know what communism is. USA have Democrats and Republicans, both parties are very far from communism. To start a communist party first both would need to unite in to one party named a Demoplican party.
Any USA government will be hostile to Bitcoin. Because government will lose some control over people. But the constitution will defend Bitcoin no matter what. No government can win. All of them can ignore court rulings and can fight some time the battle they will lose.
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Post 54017724 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):
Luckily most of us dont live in Thailand
https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1238012197537755136 No matter what will happen always remember it can get way way worse.
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Post 54034090 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
People will panic, hospitals will break down, their staff will break down too. China, Italy as role models.
You need to understand that China for like a month had no idea what strike them. They did not had any tests. It was flu season and people that got infected were treated like they have flu. A big part of 3000+ Chines that died died so that the rest of the world had Covid tests weeks in advance than they got the first patient. They had time to prepare. China did extremely well! Of course them being second biggest economy helped them tremendously.
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Post 54041356 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
Corona is temporary... it will go away eventually...
Or stay permanently.
In Hubei province 2 cities (Xiaogan and Tianmen) locked down again after opening for only one day, this happens when you force to reopening facilities while the virus is still going on.
Spreading route is unstoppable, at this point there is always someone out there who keeps infecting other people and most likely without realising it.
Even when China ore Italy trying to get their country back to nomal there is a very high possibility to get reinfected again. Epicentre might be located in another city/region.
I don't want to see people suffering ore boomers to die -this needs to end asap- i'm a realist, as far i see it Covid19 will stay here for a while.
Teams around the globe working 24/7 finding a vaccine, i have full confident they will solve this problem. But when and how the virus behaves along the way is still uncertain.
It's a pretty crazy situation. If the virus doesn't recede significantly over the summer, will we stay on global lockdown for 1 year+, while waiting for a vaccine?
By Autumn all countries will have set systems to detect virus much faster and many will already get over it and have immunity. Businesses and people will be way more organised to work and live with virus. Elder citizens and sick will get quarantined. Life will go on, just different then it went half year ago.
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Post 54047623 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
It does if it is controlled. I dont know real data but from statistic of 12 corona patient on intensive care, USA should have around 100 corona virus patients hospitalised. That is nothing. Italy have 14954 patients in hospital, 2060 of them are on intensive care. Their hospitals are overwhelmed. So not only very old and already sick are dying there but also others. Not to mention someone having a car accident. He simply cant have same care as they would get few months ago.
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Post 54054925 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.
There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.
The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.
Well, the point it that those with mild symptoms or totally asymptomatic could still be contagious and spread the disease, eventually making things even worse in the future.
In Italy there are for sure a LOT of asymptomatic cases, and we are debating to test basically everyone or not.
In the meantime elderly people are dying at an unnatural rate in certain regions.
https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1239045482665525259?s=20Why worse? Asymptomatic cases will for sure not need hospital. Main problem that we have is that there is/will not be enough hospital beds/medical stuff/medical equipment for all. If 70% of population is immediately taken out, then we are operating with much smaller numbers. For me this is a very good news.
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Post 54057844 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
Why worse? Asymptomatic cases will for sure not need hospital. Main problem that we have is that there is/will not be enough hospital beds/medical stuff/medical equipment for all. If 70% of population is immediately taken out, then we are operating with much smaller numbers. For me this is a very good news.
The problem is asyntomatic is that they don’t know they are spreading the virus around. Hence they are actually infecting people a lot more than syntomatic people that eventually quarantine themselves reducing contagion risks.
This is why lockdowns are important even early on the infection cycle.
Not more. Someone that is not sick dont caught, dont sneeze, they can spread virus but way way way less then someone that is sick a lot. Everyone is cautious. That s totally normal. But for me this research is super good news. Bad about is only that those people that will already get over virus and be totally cure and immune to it will still think they can get virus. But again maybe that is not so bad, since others who still can get infected might felt to secure if all that got immune started acting totally normal.
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Post 54060351 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):
The European Central Bank has launched a 'bazooka' $820 billion pandemic fund to aid markets. 'There are no limits.'The European Central Bank (ECB) has unveiled a new €750 billion ($820 billion) response to the coronavirus in a bid to calm financial markets.
The so-called Pandemic Emergency Purchase Programme (PEPP) comes less than a week after the central bank announced policies which did little to provide comfort to traders.
It follows similar plans by the Federal Reserve and numerous major economies to stem the damage from Covid-19.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-lagarde-announces-ecb-pandemic-fund-to-calm-markets-2020-3-1029011851People would be happy if the money was distributed to families.
$1.5T in Repo
$1.1T Commercial paper relief
$1T in US fiscal stimulus
$750B QE from ECB
$600B QE from the Fed
$600B bank loan guarantee (France/UK)
$500B in loans (Germany)
$300B in Japanese stimulus (proposed)
$100B in fiscal stimulus across Europe
Craziest week ever!
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Post 54064274 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Quarter million infected. It keeps getting easier.
Much more because many dont have symptoms and then never get tested. Probably is 5 times more infected. And probably close to quarter million is already immune.
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Post 54065040 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Also, apparently, the lab in Wuhan the virus "escaped" from? Owned by Soros. It really only does take one bad Jew to make up for a million who don't really do anything.
China dont let foreigners to own company there. Elon Musk was allowed to open company in China exclusively. They did it because they know it will be needed. Tesla shares skyrocked after that news. You are allowed to have share in Chinese companies. Not own them fully.
If you would try to provide links to your claim you would notice is a false information.
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Post 54069257 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Luckily this so called "Bitcoin" Senator had no Bitcoins to dump.
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Post 54082050 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Pointless when USD is getting worthless.
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Post 54083704 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Wrong formula. It's death/(death+cured). Which still doesn't look bad, in their case.
Would you just stop it with your home made non sense bullshit formula already.
Ball is in your court. Suggest a better method.
We're all doing it wrong.
Population of Italy ~ 60,480,000
Deaths attributed to Covid-19 ~ 6,078
Mortality rate ~ 1.12 per 100,000
Perhaps we could use a narrower geographic definition by drawing a circle of a certain diameter around with epicenter and estimating the population of that area but I don't have those stats but I'm sure the respective governments do.
Cause-specific mortality rateThe cause-specific mortality rate is the mortality rate from a specified cause for a population. The numerator is the number of deaths attributed to a specific cause. The denominator remains the size of the population at the midpoint of the time period. The fraction is usually expressed per 100,000 population. In the United States in 2003, a total of 108,256 deaths were attributed to accidents (unintentional injuries), yielding a cause-specific mortality rate of 37.2 per 100,000 population.About 1% of the country is infected. They are all going to get infected. Mortality rate 112%!
No dude. We look at the infected population. It's over 40% by official numbers.
We know the official numbers are underestimating the actual number of infected. But then, they are probably underestimating the number of dead too. Gotta work with what we got.
We will never know the value of "the infected people" because they aren't testing the entire population. How can we use this variable so loosely? It doesn't reflect the reality of the situation and makes it seem more grave than it is.
Which incidentally is exactly what we want. This needs to be taken seriously. And in any case, "people who are sick enough to notice" may be a better metric than merely "infected".
Best metric and pretty much most important is hospitalised. Italy right now have 23896 in hospitals right now. Number of infected is around 10 times more then that.
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Bitcoin price looking good, halving getting near. Money printing off the scale, we’re definitely going to see a new ATH by the end of the year.
I’m out of jail, theymos let me out
I decided to end these 7-day bans early. Altcoin giveaways involving incentivized posting are not allowed anywhere on the forum, but certain incentivized-posting games (not altcoin giveaways) are allowed in Games & Rounds. The topic was incorrectly posted in Games & Rounds, possibly causing some understandable confusion among participants.
Happy to be back boys!
LOL so you had 3 days like in Monopoly?
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How long you people think we will be under quarantine ?
Depends where you live. Also expect another lock down at end of the year. I am sure some countries will be able to avoid lock down at that time. Most probably not.
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Post 54119131 (copy this link) (by Febo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):
Corona is only starting though.
These numbers don't make sense unless we get the same or less for corona in 2021 from Jan to March.
Yes and traffic fatalities will decrease by 2021 since everyone will be quarantined. So we are solving two problems.