All posts made by European Central Bank in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 7115366 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
Why can't we just break $700 before it crashes again??? Why I ask?! Why?111!!1
Ps huobi orderbook extremely bearish. Crash to $600 imminent.
We don't want it to move pass yet, be prepared.
Speak for yourself, girlfriend.
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Post 7119289 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
U.S. Treasury
European Central Bank
Internal Revenue Service
U.S. Sec
National Security Agency
Seems all these agencies have freshly joined us on the forum at the same time. I note the coordinated approach, I look forward to some valuable posts.
Or are they / him picking up post counts elsewhere on other threads now?
I think we will see an increasing number of valuable posters, it's wonderful we now let people post immediately they join and have no glowing ignore button, makes it so much easier to make new friends.
You have blown our cover, someone will contact you for the appropriate punishment.
Well, we're not out to get anyone.
We'd just like to make sure the Euro comes out of this unscathed because we all know it's a bit shit.
L8rs.
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Post 12934117 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.33h):
loser ... I heard VCs and Banks are paying much better these days.
Correct. We pay our posters up to 5 Euros per 1000 new accounts created here.
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Post 13676007 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.42h):
Woah, dude. That's one seriously deep comment. I guess it took you a while to formulate it. Nice job.
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Post 13703072 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.42h):
during the last two years , January was always the month in which the price start falling, is this going to happen this year also ?
it is like the first half of the year is always a fall and the second one the price recover what was lost
People who make their decisions based on past behavior are gonna have a bad time. Use your eyes and mind. It's changing all the time.
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Post 13789501 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
It's his explanation and break down of 2mb blocks. I can't say it made me scream or break out in a cold sweat.
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Post 13789911 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Why is it that core supporters end up having a complete tard-out?
Am I being manipulated to support alternative implementations through the fake unpleasantness of supposed Core supporters?
Do you have any idea how frustrating it must be to deal with inferior beings all the time? Don't question. Hash.
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Post 13963935 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Talking of Gox, is there anyone here who's in line for a payout? If you are then what are you gonna do when it arrives?
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Post 13964363 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
The lawyers fees have eaten away a quarter of the funds already and they are stretching their investigation out forever. After the final lawyers fee has been paid there will probably only be enough left to buy a bag of jelly beans. What can you buy with the price of the one jelly bean each person will probably get back?
I sure hope that ain't the case. Is that documented somewhere? Surely there are some type of rules about how much ends up in admin pockets?
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Post 13964515 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Woah. That's some substantial expenditure. Does anyone know if the bitcoins recovered are also being shared between people who lost USD, JPY and other currencies? I haven't seen any mention of any of that money being clawed back.
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Post 14049292 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
Sweet idea. I'm gonna take it one further and create one called Money. No one can resist that.
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Post 14051904 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
Spam limit working as intended
no the transactions centralized control deemed undesirable were not written to the blockchain but bloated the Mempool, something that was not supposed to happen.
Does 0.12 include a big flashing sign to remind me that my transaction is spam? I sure hope so. Then I can reenter it with a non spam mindset.
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Post 14117943 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
What we need is some sort of a central authority to continuously adjust the Bitcoin protocol to compensate for such irrational behaviors.
Doesn't that automatically stop it from being bitcoin any more?
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Post 14155128 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
Any word on that ETF those Twinkletossers were going to set up?
They last updated it in January 2015. Most people said that it usually takes a year from the last update so I figured it would have gone through.
Maybe they shifted focus to Gemini and aren't pushing the political buttons needed to get it through.
I thought they had to create Gemini mainly for the etf application. No way was it gona impress the sec with the shitty exchanges that were around at the time.
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Post 14165800 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
That makes for kinda sad reading considering where we're at now.
And this guy nailed it a mere five and a half goddamn years ago. Maybe that should've been Satoshi's parting gift. I may not know anything about this stuff but I could've predicted that.
Only recently I learned about this block size limit.
I understand not putting any limit might allow flooding. On the other hand, the smaller your block, the faster it will propagate to network (I suppose.. or is there "I've got a block!" sort of message sent before the entire content of the block?), so miners do have an interest on not producing large blocks.
I'm very uncomfortable with this block size limit rule. This is a "protocol-rule" (not a "client-rule"), what makes it almost impossible to change once you have enough different softwares running the protocol. Take SMTP as an example... it's unchangeable.
I think we should schedule a large increase in the block size limit right now while the protocol rules are easier to change. Maybe even schedule an infinite series of increases, as we can't really predict how many transactions there will be 50 years from now.
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Post 14169561 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
In HK, Alex asked me to “respect” his time by agree the consensus asap. Also someone else told me he had bought long position just before the roundtable, if we did not agree, he would lose huge financially. If it was not these two, I would probably have escaped away that night."[/i]
What type of pussy makes super important decisions because of some other asshole's plans? These guys need more spine.
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Post 14169615 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
That's Bitcoins decentralization you're talking about. Have some respect!
Pah. If the pool guys were real men like charles bronson or hulk hogan we'd be in way better shape. Looks like you could scare the lunch money out of most of the present guys with a couple of harsh words.
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Post 14257603 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.48h):
The wind has left this thread's sails. The action is spreading far and wide. Or going into hibernation.
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Post 14258443 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.48h):
The halving is priced in or we will see a huge pump? How many percent are your bets?
My bet is nothing much happens. There's a whole lot of noise taking up attention elsewhere.
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Post 14270167 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.48h):
Ain't the crap gonna be here forever? I guess we'll have to wait for that miracle second layer that deals with this stuff once and for all.
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Post 14333540 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.48h):
It feels kinda strange to see some actual movement for once. It's about damn time too.
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Post 14653162 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Hot damn. It's a quick rise. Feels good and I'm still having a little trouble believing the bitcoin beast is a little out of its slumber.
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Post 14703659 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
You've got patches of what's known as Somalia that do have government, but it seems the rest of the world ain't too keen on recognizing them.
I watched a documentary where a British guy went there and fancied himself a Somalian passport as a souvenir. He got taken to a store down an alley and a guy named Mr Big Beard made him a diplomatic one on the spot. It was probably more valid than most of them.
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Post 14704138 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
And the women are incredbily beautiful. I'd have to marry one with some serious firepower. Wouldn't wanna be kidnapped on my wedding night.
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Post 14705400 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Check Bitpremier. They're out there in a small number but you would have to be a visionary or a bit insane to stay in bitcoin after selling your place.
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Post 14716880 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Coinsbank. Kinda weird when they've spent so much on their sig campaign gaining awareness.
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Post 14716920 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
They haven't swapped the signatures for the signature campaign yet. They have emailed a few people the new signature, and I expect most participants will get told to swap over the next week, so you should seethe new name in signatures all over the forum in another week or two.
They're still kinda throwing an expensively built proflie away. I'm sure their existing customers are gonna know the score but it still seems like a weird choice to me.
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Post 14774187 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
What does everyone think the next scare story is gonna be to keep the market down? Surely one day they're gonna start running out of them?
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Post 14774290 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
I'd be proud to take either of those guys home to meet mom. I think the one on the right's gonna behave better.
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Post 14775492 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
JVP confirmed that CW was the Satashi Nakamoto he met in 2005. So if it's a scam then he's in on it too.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803This interview with him sucks butt. I'm not interested in what he has to say after all this cryptic shit.
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Post 14783284 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
There are ones that take the prices from multiple joints and give you an average. Preev.com is one, the Winkdex is another and I'm sure there are more. Some of them use localbitcoins too which can make the price look kinda unrealistic.
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Post 14792984 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
That reminds me, i got a bit frustrated in another post about the ignorance how many can not fathom something like even 10k$/btc, like EVER (lol) -i wonder what they are doing here than - and replied this:
I think guys like these are everywhere here and they're lost causes. They'll sell at $500-600 something. If that's the limits of their comprehension then so be it.
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Post 14793297 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
We are talking about $25K - $250K in the coming decade or so without taking into considerations non mathematical elements, am I right ?
This is theory and throwing figures around. What it truly requires is people. Alot of real people. Real people take alot of convincing and they usually don't do what you want them to.
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Post 14798448 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Everyone knows we're heading for the moon as soon as we climb.
What's the deal with just sitting around and waiting? Get us up dammit
Margin trading means you can sell bitcoins without having a single bitcoin. Banks with unlimited access to freshly printed dollars by Fed printing press can sell bitcoins and manipulate price as they wish. It is the same price manipulation of gold and silver we see for many years. This is why derivatives books of leading banks are of gigantic proportions. This is the way it will be until corrupt fiat system collapses. And collapse will be spectacular.
Is there a single exchange that offers margin that would ever be legit enough for a bank to have a play? I don't know of one. All the fancy ones in the US with proper licences don't offer it.
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Post 14801172 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
So no segwit until HF code is released (Blockstream considers "released" a pull req, apparently). Wake me up in 14 months grentlement.
I think they might find themselves out in the cold if they fuck around for that long. That's just crazy.
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Post 14859579 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
How many here have heard of Gatecoin? I haven't before all this came up but maybe I'm not concentrating.
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Post 15013500 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.51h):
People really think an eminent journalist from one of the world's most respected newspapers spends 23.8 hours a day on here posting about drugs and pedophiles? That's almost as freaking pathetic as the troll.
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Post 15014238 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.51h):
A rise like this ain't gonna last or sustain but it's a nice sign of life anyhow. Nice to know that there's still some lead in its pencil.
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Post 15025531 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.51h):
This is not good for Bitstamp. They're desperately trying to make money by expanding their business but they should stick to bitcoin only.
I wonder if their new regulations cover them for that stuff. Maybe so but there might be a whole new bunch of rules to follow.
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Post 15073638 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.51h):
I thought the polls here had a history of being insanely inaccurate? Still, I guess it's gonna come at some point kinda soon.
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Post 15119489 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
It's here:
https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/740258327960162304I don't know why anyone would care any more. I guess he wanted to restart it to get some fun freebies at conferences.
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Post 15166453 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
It's been over $600 plenty of times. But only in China. What a bunch of prick teasers the fat Westerners are.
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Post 15190233 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
Way. way way too low. You we're not around for the previous bubbles were you? It will go to somewhere in between $5k and $49k. Have some self control.
Er, in the next few weeks? Then it'll be the bust of the entire century after everyone calms down followed by another few years of gloom. I kinda hope that doesn't happen in a way.
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Post 15190321 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
One million dollars? I guess it depends on your age. It ain't gonna supply much interest and it'll keep on inflating. If I was in my 50s or 60s or something that would be fine but not younger. There's always the cheaper country option but I wouldn't uproot myself completely to make some cash go further.
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Post 15190337 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
I know that. I assumed people were talking about cashing out and parking their asses on the proceeds. A very dumb move if it truly went to the moon.
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Post 15191561 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.52h):
I still don't get why the Chinese are very involved. Can anyone explain like I'm five?
It's real hard for them to invest abroad so options are very limited. They also love a gamble. They're the world centre of tech manufacturing so its natural that mining's gonna congregate there. There's a ton of money there chasing limited options for stuff to do with it.
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Post 15219200 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
my blockchain appears to be working fine. I took it out for a spin earlier on and threw it around a bit.
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Post 15223819 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
Oh, and when I found it at .50 (cents), I couldn't find a place to buy some.
eheheh
Memory lane...
What were your options around then? I thought there was always the OTC channel and the new liberty standard place. Maybe it was gone by then. I dunno.
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Post 15241163 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
I can't believe Ethereum is still in the game.
Isn't it to do with its volume being mainly eth/btc? There's plenty of other alts too that have a pretty much unchanged btc exchange rate but are now way more valuable by sitting there and riding the coattails.
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Post 15241397 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
[...] But from a fundamental standpoint, who has the funds to be able to cough up $2000 just to buy half a coin? [...]
Being able to afford a whole bitcoin will become rare over time, like owning a kilo of gold.
We will slowly move to pricing things in mBTC to fix this issue for a while. With the side effect that it makes people getting used to the idea of not wanting to own an arbitrary number of satoshi's, being one bitcoin.
Uh, this guy is legendary and has been here for five years and he asks a question like that? Maybe a mining rack fell over and landed on his head in the meantime.
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Post 15241990 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
EU referundum is suspended
Where does it say that? All I can find is that the campaigning is suspended out of respect for someone who was murdered.
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Post 15253393 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
All future and present coins are the victim of bitcoin's success. It got most of its troubles out the way when it was nowhere. Nowadays there's so much more knowledge and money sloshing around that anything that sticks its head above the parapet is gonna have tons of people looking to rape it.
Meanwhile bitcoin keeps on rolling and growing.
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Post 15270640 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
Coolio. It just moved more in a few minutes than it was doing for month after boring ass month. I guess it's been sent off to rehab and returned fully sober and ready for business. Let's hope it stays on the volatility wagon for a while this time.
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Post 15282533 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
Hey, looks like we're getting another 2013 then. I'll look forward to the chinese government destroying the exchanges once and for all this time.
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Post 15282838 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.53h):
Well if bitcoin gained some new investors, they will need some time (days) to get their renmimbis to the exchanges. So yeah, we can probably expect some action in the following days.
Not in China I believe. Those guys can deposit super fast. In the west chances are you might be wiring to another country. If you're in america then you're stuck with their prehistoric waiting times for stuff to clear.
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Post 15322640 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
I see a bunch of technical analysis having predicted this, but did they predict the Bitfinex thing? Where does the line between TA and self fulfilling prophecy meet or is it rude to ask this question?
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Post 15334883 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
Maybe all this dumpage was a sign from the robo whales to the rest of the world to stay away from their twisted little playground. there's no way they'd want REAL money to arrive. they'd get swallowed up and spat out by the genuine pros.
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Post 15350929 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
Or maybe the eu's gonna go all out to pacify their populations with a few crumbs. i think this vote set a precedent that's scared the shit out of them.
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Post 15383490 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
This market hedge stuff is pure bullshit and you'd have to be a moron to believe it.
It does however plant a seed for the future in a few minds.
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Post 15384670 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
ECB you have two years to change your avatar. I demand you start the negotiations about that asap.
Addressed. we are committed to being more agile and responsive in this new dawn/shitshow.
I wanna know what youre ECB overlords will do with 444b Euro's (created out of thin air) during this ''Brexit event''
I dunno. i only got the job posting here because i'm the only one who knows how to use a computer. i'll have to wait for the big dogs to give me an update down those sucky tubes that spit messages on pieces of paper out.
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Post 15413362 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/748246224357167106Does anyone have a clue what this entails? is it something more than a sign of life? though a sign of life is good too. as far as i can tell they've updated their filing and that's about it.
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Post 15437493 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
wow, this page is dead at the moment apart from psychotic assholes who get binned.
anyway -
http://moneymorning.com/2016/07/01/why-the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-is-back-on-track-for-approval/the winklevosssssss's application has a new law firm and the reason they went with the bats exchange is that they, not nasdaq, were prepared to implement a rule change that means we'll know if the etf gets approved in the next 8 months. it might be alot sooner. after that it might be never.
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Post 15437662 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
some winklevoss etf action. they've adjusted their application to make it a whole lot more viable. the new exchange they've chosen to work with is willing to implement a rule that nasdaq wasn't.
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Post 15482049 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
doesn't roger ver himself admit that he knows little or nothing technically? when did he become an expert on this?
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Post 15482211 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
i remember him saying he doesn't like being misquoted, or maybe freaking out and pulling out his balls, so writes everything down and recites it when he has to do a monologue. he still needs some practice.
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Post 15514145 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
coinbase is looking a little ragged these days what with gdax usability issues and them losing utility in a few countries. they need some extra vc millions to throw away to look nice and shiny again.
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Post 15516169 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
A higher BTC price will make it an elite thing
i truly cannot freaking believe that someone with your activity level believes this is a valid opinion. did you sell your account or have you had a stroke?
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Post 15518548 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
As long as bitcoin has intrinsic value (which we agree it does), the price can boom due to economic conditions, just like the precious metals.
where's the intrinsic value? i don't believe anything has intrinsic value in the great scheme of things. value's awarded and mutually agreed, it's not a concrete thing.
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Post 15524472 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
that was an excellent call. i guess it's either $6666 or $66666 for the next one unless that displeases the satanists who don't like the extra sixes.
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Post 15526923 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
the only reason i've stuck around the last few years was to see that rocket take off on thehalvening site. what the hell's happened to it?
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Post 15583931 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
hey, he's pretty hot now he's lost the baby weight. the girls are gonna flock to him now he's got the ability to throw those coins around.
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Post 15594283 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Man, i wonder if the brazilian government knows it's paying for professional trolling.
Guess those paid shills are a real thing.
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Post 15594836 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Maybe the government's paying him to piss open source projects off to destruction.
It could be an important part of academic research.
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Post 15595553 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Who says mined coins ever see an exchange? Most of these guys are pros who can get more reliable deals elsewhere.
No way I'd want to dick around with wall games if i had massive bills waiting to be paid.
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Post 15597951 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
holy shit. are we gonna make it through 2016 without the world ending? it's starting to smell like end times. now all we need is for dolly parton to croak and we'll know doom is certain.
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Post 15605683 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
if i'd been them i wouldn't have even gotten started making an application without a proper exchange on the scene. sec guy would throw it in the bin without that. i guess that's one of the reasons they created gemini as itbit didn't exist then either.
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Post 15618132 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I heard that verification is needed for NY residents,don't know if is true or not.
they don't want ny residents. period. if they pick you up using bitfinex in ny state then they ask if you're resident there. if you do admit to it then you're out.
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Post 15676181 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
crazy, are those US prices? where i live houses start at 500k$
you can get yourself a nice house for a hundred bucks in detroit. only problem is the several thousand in back taxes you gotta pay up. the us had a proper housing crash. most other places haven't in recent years.
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Post 15704662 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
well, if there's one thing bitcoin has to burn it's hashrate. what's the biggest ever single drop that was recorded and what was the cause?
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Post 15708915 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/25/natwest-paves-way-for-introduction-of-negative-interest-ratesnegative interest rates might be on their way for uk business customers. I wonder what the next banking disgrace will be after this.
oh, and there was some free bitcoin in the comments section up for grabs. it's gone now.
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ya if the Winklevoss ETF has been waiting for aproval for years, why would this one get approved?
MAYBE its because of " Bank of New York Mellon acting as custodian. " could be they will get aproved because the way the fund is setup makes the SEC feel more comfortable about it??
but i think there is a good chance this ETF will be the same story as the twins ETF, coming SOONTM
nope. it's all about their new exchange willing to change the rule necessary to list it. nasdaq did nothing to get it rolling. bats, or whatever it's called, has.
that rule change is the key to advancing the application. before that it was dreamland. we'll know if this rule is approved soon. if it is then one of the major obstacles is gone and the etf application is a whole lot closer.
The ETF won't go through until they get to the point when the SEC opens it up for public comment for 45 days. Then after those 45 days are over....rocketships.
i thought it already had, or maybe that was just the rule change. in that case it received a grand total of two comments. one from some guy who said it sounded kinda nice. the other was a million negative words from that asshole brazilian professor.
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Post 15770879 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Bet they wished they'd stuck with BTC. Oh well, you reap what you sow.
even if this is true, and i'm not gonna trust an 'insider' then there's probably something in their terms and conditions that allows them to wangle out of buying back some coin they never expected to exist, or they'll add it.
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Post 15772349 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
coinbase already insolvent?
https://status.coinbase.com/they have identified an issue causing slow outbound transactions. maybe they're slow enough to get to panama before anyone knows what's really happened. or it might be a genuine problem.
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Post 15777196 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
wow. i'll look forward to the apple transmuter that I can feed my greasy kebab into and have a lobster dinner fly out of the other side. nothing's ever gonna be the same again.
ever.
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Post 15783018 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
when did all this coinbase crap start? they're backed by some of the hugest guns in finance. I know people here love bashing them but them dying out of nowhere is a long shot however you wanna look at it.
if I was running coinbase i'd shut the place down purely to piss off all the whining bitcoiners.
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Post 15783087 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
according to that miners are moving to a new client, uh, yesterday. not only do they control bitcoin, they also control time and space. that's pretty cool.
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Post 15787050 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Wait a bit.I think we are not finished yet.
I could imagine a drop down to $580 within the next 24 hours if not some good news for example by core due to the latest meeting with chinese miners get released.
the only good news that'll come out of it will be how much they all enjoyed doing the conga together. perhaps they claimed it was a social only occasion to get people off their backs. it must be a grind knowing that everything you do is gonna have a few thousand maniacs joining you in spirit to breathe down your neck.
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Post 15794000 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
usd on polo, or usdt, is a tiny market. it's hardly even worth mentioning. it was about 4 million dollars equivalent over the last twenty four hours. you can't base much on that volume compared to other places.
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Post 15794021 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Looks like over 125K Bitcoin were stolen
sauce?
I took the bitfinix guy replying in the reddit thread as a good sign.
that guy would be replying to you in the manner of your old pal while the rest of the bitfinex staff were emptying your house of all its contents.
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Post 15794337 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Phil G Potter advocates for Core's 1MB4EVA and soft fork salad, everybody turns a blind eye to repeated site failures and glaring warning signs of incompetence.
I wasn't aware that bitfinex have ever said much about block size, certainly not to the extent of coinbaseman or we'd know about it. they're in the business of quietly screwing everyone, not getting involved in block politics.
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holy shit these guys mean business. they started a reddit sub.
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Post 15794668 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
more important than bitfinex, and I hope that dump is dead forever now, what if this wipes out most of the most active bitcoin traders? there's a whole load of them on there. gox's demise must've taken a lot of enthusiasm and money out of the market. this could do the same.
Is the hack so bad really? Any details came out about it?
119,000 btc confirmed.
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Post 15794800 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
can you (or anyone else ) explain the 2/3 keys needed to move the coins?
1 is the client
1 is bitfienx
what's the 3rd???
is it not bitgo? whatever or whoever it is, it sure as hell don't work very well.
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Post 15794939 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
From what I have read, there is a possibility that its bitgo's fault on the hack, and if thats the case then they do have insurance. But I doubt it will get all this covered. We will know once the company releases an announcement about it.
didn't bitpay recently fail in an insurance claim? by the sounds of it it was down to their own stupidity, but bitfinex must be a stupider company in general considering their track record. the insurance industry's job is to not pay out, but I really hope the sake of everyone who's lost out that something comes of this.
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Post 15795071 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vupa6/p2shinfo_shows_movement_out_of_multisig_wallets/d61ro84?context=1what does everyone make of this?
'Zane, this is many times larger than the block reward for the duration of time that has elapsed. Have you considered getting a list of transactions to blacklist and getting miners to reorg the theft? The window of time for that hasn't closed.
(If this happened in the last day, then that's 12.5*144 blocks = 1,800 BTC in subsidy. That's <2% of the hack.)'
from a core developer.
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Post 15795363 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Definitely interesting to speculate the what ifs? lol that's what it would take
so bitfinex would not also screw their customers, they'd also screw the whole of bitcoin by setting an unacceptable precedent. I don't think everyone else should suffer because of their dumb moves and it kinda blows my mind that it's being discussed.
it would be a nail in the coffin for the idea that this thing's set itself up as but i can understand why it's being proposed. i hope no one caves all the same.
if it didn't happen with gox, even though that would've been impossible as it was all too messy, untraceable and elongated, then it shouldn't happen now.
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Post 15808597 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
.... ah no, this is complete bullshit. People were keeping coinz on finex so they could lease them out for shorting or so they could gamble with 10x leveraged (on margin) trades on sometimes very short terms ... casino speculation aka day-trading.
as far as I can tell returns for lending out btc to traders are really low. the money's in lending out the dollars. you'd have to be dumb to be risking it for those percentages but dumbness is rarely in short supply here.
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Post 15808822 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
They didn't just lose 87 million $ worth of coins they also have to compensate all the long positions which lost money because the exchange was closed.
they've never compensated people who were caught out by their outages before. no way they're gonna start doing it now.
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They did. You just had to write a support ticket to get a refund.
really? r/bitcoinmarkets is always filled with people shouting about being wiped out by the latest outage. I've never seen any of them mention being made whole again. maybe they like being drama queens and never fill us in about the boring conclusion.
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Post 15814846 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
so how well was the blockchain analysis on the 800k Mt. Gox coins?
Yep. Don't expect anything else in this case. The money is gone most likely.
People expect way too much from the law/police side...
trying to analyse gox would've been an absolute bitch of a job. they limped on forever and who knows how messy their address situation was? analysing bitfinex would be way easier, but law enforcement won't do anything even if they know what to do.
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Post 15816243 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Yeah I can't see that happening, I guess they'll file for business bankruptcy, they've lost all credibility & I doubt they have the means necessary to sort this out.
It's one big sorry mess.
let's see. don't underestimate the addiction people have for what it offers. the wording the bitfinex guy is using at present seems to imply they plan to get up and running again as if nothing ever happened. it's hard to tell who's less connected with reality, them or their customers who'll attempt to flock back.
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Post 15816447 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
i like this idea -
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/03/cash-handouts-are-best-way-to-boost-growth-say-economistsif they're gonna take us all down the tubes then we may as well receive some free cash to blow as well, right?
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Post 15816852 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I think a better idea is let, banks, and people and economies fail, and then rise from the dead, stronger, wiser, more prudent and responsible and more risk aware and adverse...and independent, and if they cannot, then they should simply fail.... by propping up bad actors, the system gets sicker and sicker, weaker and weaker... same with individuals involved... good kick in the balls is needed to wake everyone up.
i am willing to bet five years of global gdp that this will never, ever, ever happen. it's gonna carry on limping until every last one of us is living in a box, eating mud and too malnourished to pour into the streets and hang people.
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Post 15816898 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
people also have to keep in mind that all this bullshit doesn't create real growth but nominal growth.
most people don't benefit from any type of growth and haven't for many years. you may as well get enough to a buy a few free tvs to enjoy watching the world burn in 4k.
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Post 15821075 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
why it died? the name could be changed to bitcoindeadtalk. it's gonna need a few years of post mortems so we can all learn something.
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Post 15821524 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
https://twitter.com/btcWhaleclub/status/761330711165100032dunno how true this is but here you go. bitfinex plan to issue some type of coin to pay dividends on future bitfinex profits and poloniex are gonna trade it. looks like they'll be back in business soon if this is the real deal.
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Post 15821735 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I think it's probably total junk. there's so many rumors flying around that people are having fun fabricating things. we'll see. they'll have to come out with some kind of answer relatively soon. i'll be surprised if this is it.
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Post 15822200 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4vtv1m/bitfinex_down_due_to_bitcoin_security_breach/d64ow17socialized losses for bitcoin and loans to btc/usd positions. guess we'll know the full facts in a few hours.
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Post 15828176 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I ain't so sure any exchange is gonna accept coins originating from a known hack address. and mixing that amount is borderline impossible. it'll take a long time for someone to launder those coins. anyway they're probably safe in some bitfinex employee's wallet.
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Post 15843134 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
this could be considered market manipulation by BFX exchange
I thought there was zero regulation for the bitcoin market itself. they may well be breaking laws in how they choose to operate their company but that's a separate matter.
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Post 15849369 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Bail-In at bitfinex ...
just goes to show it's those goddamn humans who have to ruin everything despite bitcoin's best efforts. I really hope the bitfinex victims are made whole and then they sue that shithole until it squeals.
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Post 15852362 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
https://news.bitcoin.com/heres-bitfinex-not-like-mtgox/here's an article by a real live attorney about the bitfinex clusterfuck. if the bitfinex management think they're gonna sail away into the future without a care in the world, they might need to reconsider...
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Post 15873183 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
just imagine the political fallout from this kind of "hack" if the price had been 10 or 100X where we are today.
I don't see how it would've been possible if bitfinex remained the go to exchange for usd. those types of price levels demand major oversight before big money even dreamt of going in.
anyone professional looking hard at bitfinex would shake their head and walk away laughing. I still can't believe that people awarded it the number one spot after all the shit that's already gone down in the past. at heart it really wasn't all that different from mt gox.
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Post 15890505 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Completely agree with this. For example, if it weren't for traders (and hackers) the 'coin-that-can't-be-named-here' would be worth "fuck all", aka zero right about now. Its utility is effectively zero.
it's painfully obvious to everyone who can spare a coupla calories to think that this is the case. but let's not spoil the old guard's sneering. they do have a point though. bitfinex is not much or any more professional than a lot of the previous shitholes and anyone using it shoulda been be fully prepped to have their angus peppered at any moment.
when it's that obvious that it's a shithole then it's hard to resist the told you so line.
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Post 15891282 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
No it's not, every time he posts the price stays the same and WILL stay the same until he stops
should everyone crowdfund an injunction to stop this guy from typing on here? maybe he'll do it voluntarily if he knows it's for the greater good.
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Post 15913968 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Hey guys. My first post on here. Been reading the forum for around 6 months now and thought its about time I made a post. Why is it so quiet on the coin front at the mo. It's always so intense! I only hold 2 coins purchased with 'pocket' money every month so not on the same level as you guys!
I think you'd be surprised how few coins a lot of people who've been here for a long time have. two coins would make you the envy of a bunch of them.
as for why it's so quiet, that's the norm pretty much. pumps and falls are followed by long periods of nothing. let's see how long this one goes on for but I think this phase has the possibility of going scary quite quickly.
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Post 15914029 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Oh really! I assumed everyone on here has 10+ by he way they talk.
Do you think scary up or scary down!
that's not the impression I get about holders. i'm sure there are some big swinging dicks and they're clever enough to keep quiet but there are polls on here quite often and thw answers are either a surprisingly large amount or a surprisingly pitiful amount and not much in the middle.
i'm going for scary down because maybe bitfinex going more wrong might scare the traders. let's see. if you're here for the long haul none of that matters anyway.
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Post 15914088 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Deffo in for the long haul. I'm slowly buying coins up with spare money and trying to get my friends into it too. I only found out about Bitcoin approx 6 months ago!
there'll never be more than 10 million people who can own more than you. when you include whales, lost coins and satoshi's coins that number falls a whole bunch more.
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Post 15914964 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Damn yo, be some broke-ass niggas up in here.
it's possible that one day in the future 2 btc might elicit gasps from the posters on here. I see a bunch of people regularly fantasizing about owning 21 btc which is almost attainable for mere mortals but not all that many have over 10 grand lying around to bet.
not so long ago it would've been 2100. maybe 2.1 will be the new 2100 sooner than we expect.
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Post 15921701 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
lol.. i think we won't see uptrend until regulated us exchange has margin trading.
what's holding this back? it must be the number one request. I read somewhere there's some type of legal nuance that prevents them from offering it. as that's the number one thing any finance pro wants I can't believe it's impossible to obtain.
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Post 15923349 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Sorry, what's HODL?? I'm guessing Hold On/Out... something
Here you go with the origins. One drunken misspelling can give birth to an eternal legend.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0
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Post 15960417 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
i'm gonna take an insanely wild guess and state that the recipient just might be the same person who sent them. i'm crazy like that.
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Post 16136756 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
do we count bitfinex rallies as proper rallies any more? I dunno whether to take them seriously or not these days. their order books must be a bunch weedier than they used to be.
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Post 16206906 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Oh my God. If this could really happen buddy all body holding bitcoin at the moment will be in a lot of dough
hardly. if they decide they don't like bitcoin then all they gotta do is block any fiatcoin transactions that are related to it. then people are suddenly gonna realize that cash was kinda cool after all. their control over your money will be nearly complete.
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Post 16207217 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
If the big banks release a successful coin, bitcoin's market value would probably crash pretty hard.
uh, why?
a big bank coin would be exactly like the fiat you got now except they can totally destroy your life with one click of a button and track every single transaction you ever make.
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Post 16224112 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
But who knows, maybe the chinese exchanges are just changing numbers in a database to move the price.
yep. there is absolutely nothing to stop them from doing that. logic dictates that that's what they're gonna get up to.
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Post 16226322 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Believe it when I see it, been hearing bull shit rumbling on about this from them for years now.
stuff like this does not run on a time scale to keep the little people happy. it lumbers on like a supertanker. there's a lot on the line if the sec approve it. they'll take as long as they want and they don't lose anything by extending it until they're satisfied either way.
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I'm worried about the time frame it might take for adoption to hit a point where we finally pass ATH. That could take a decade or not even happen in our lifetime
does adoption have anything to with price? I seriously doubt it. hype is what drives it and that's gonna continue being the case for a long time.
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Post 16266733 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Wow. How does this bja guy keep up the same narrative without changing a thing for years on end? It's seriously impressive.
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i'm alive and kicking. everyone is poised with their rocket or train crash gifs ready to unleash if there's a direction on the horizon. maybe they're gonna have a long wait.
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Post 16352738 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
$2300 by 2020? guess that's possible. comes a time when it needs to stop acting like a low market cap stock and start revving its engines. considering how opaque most of the exchanges are I dunno if they can be depended on to figure out price discovery.
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Post 16433158 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
how do you get a desktop drive into a laptop? how does an unforked wallet show up? if he didn't know what he was doing how did he mine 60 blocks?
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Post 16527238 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
the only thing the sec is consideing is the exchange rule change.
that's totally separate to approving the actual etf. that might be several years or never even if the rule change goes through.
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Post 16528353 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
But the rule change basically opens the door for the ETF in such a way that they don't have to go through the several years long process. It essentially lets them piggyback on other structures by changing the rule to include cryptocurrency.
but this ain't just another vehicle for the same old markets. it's a new asset class. they're not gonna simply slot it in and forget about it. i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff they want reassuring about before they green light it. maybe all of that's already been provided. I dunno.
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looks like they've had their domain name hijacked and transferred to some shitty host.
that's a poor show.
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Post 16548345 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
if a global ledger can be derailed by one sad, mad old Brazilian then that don't reflect too well on the ledger or the Brazilian.
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Post 16561362 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Independence day too......Bullish!
who knows what hot miners are gonna be ticking away by then? the halving moved up a few days because of asics. maybe it'll be a few days before so independence day will be truly sweet.
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why? the news is old. the measures for kyc/aml and so on are already in place and apply. and the only thing they're saying is that they don't want to promote it. seems like business as usual to me.
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Post 16618349 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
It doesn't matter what the European Central Bank's stance on Bitcoin is. There aren't enough big exchanges in Europe to make any difference. There's only Bitstamp, and that's a shadow of its former self since the hack. The biggest USD exchange is still Bitfinex, and that doesn't care about the EU.
kraken? plenty of people use that too. plus bitcoin.de. plus bitonic. plus localbitcoins which is already gone in Germany because of regulations.
bitfinex seems very willing to bow to American state level legislation. if something European comes in then expect them to do the same.
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Post 16647244 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
While it's still possible the SEC will reject the Winklevoss Bitcoin ETF, it's far more likely it will be approved.
does this journo live in the mind of sec officials? it's gonna be amazing if it is approved but most people writing about it suffer from confirmation bias.
it's a lot less problematic for them to turn it down. the winklevosses ain't exactly finance royalty and many vested interests would prefer it if the idea of an etf went away and didn't come back.
I hope there's the decision for the positive but the people in charge of it are gonna be objective at best, biased against it at worst.
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Post 16647702 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
does this mean this thread is coming back to life for a little bit? maybe we need to nominate a proxy adam.
there's some huge gaps opening up between the exchanges, specifically bitfinex and everyone else. their books must be super thin.
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Has anybody thought that price is rising because deposits to exchanges can't come through the 45k+ pending txs mempool?
i'd guess that many coins, and almost all fiat, never leaves the major exchanges. it moves between the accounts of the same old bunch of traders.
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Post 16689376 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Maybe, maybe not. If many people want to cash out their cold wallets - they may have had issues in the past 24 hours. It's only a theory, I don't insist.
very possible but also a kinda stupid time to sell. if you've been waiting months or years to sell you should be together enough to wait to see what happens with the current bullishness.
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Post 16703619 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Segregated witness released, major transaction capacity upgrades for all the doubters, FUDsters, pissers, moaners and sundry whiners. Read 'em and weep.
what are the whiners are gonna do? if an actual advance is staring them in the face I wonder how many are gonna shit or get off the pot. let's see how these mining threats pan out.
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Post 16721165 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Bow before King Bitcoin, you lowly worm alts. 83.6% dominance.
I think this z crap is gonna put a cap on alts for a while. it's the final absurdity and insult of the whole scene.
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Post 16721579 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
I think most of us would be excited to see it breach 800. That's a figure from the deep past. 1000 would cause this thread to have a little accident.
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Post 16722123 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
weren't the rules for the party that it had to stay over a grand for a month? that's a big ask. keep that champagne in the cupboard for now.
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Post 16724037 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
was bitcointalk down for everyone or just me?
yep. me too. that can only mean that this rally is serious. bitcointalk always craps out when things are going off.
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so how do we reckon bitfinex is gonna murder this run? surely it's too soon for another hack or outage. i'll expect something genuinely creative from them this time around.
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Post 16745292 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
he sold his account to some scammer didn't he?
his usual shorting bullshit changed to hawking some weird alt.
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http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/11/01/2178505/a-correction-concerning-the-currency-of-the-future/does anyone know what the deal is with this? was it hacked or something or can anyone post on there with any name?
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nope. i've no idea how that site works. can any old crazy person post on there? i assumed because it was the ft they'd curate their content but maybe not. or it might not even by the ft. i dunno.
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i'd guess that a busy and successful full time journo has better things to do than spend 14-18 hours a day posting junk on here literally for years on end. maybe i'm too trusting.
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I have this theory, that all of Bitcoin's past major rallies were predicated on the pumpers having a "fall" in their backpocket, something that would guarantee a REASON for a crash (so that they could time their big short, of course).
where could you short in late 2013 and before? i didn't think many places offered that option back in the day. or do you just mean selling high and buying back low?
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Post 16765269 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
even if this bit of news turns out to be bullshit, it's inevitable it's gonna happen at some point even though this capital flight talk has zero basis in fact. no real chinese people are doing anything with it. it's bots, miners, traders and exchange owners.
the exchanges are where governments can do what they like to bitcoin. the maximalists can talk all they want about how bitcoin be unaffected, the overwhelming majority of its users will be.
that said china doesn't do much for bitcoin and it would be for the best if the government there clarified things once and for all.
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we have a planned bitfinex outage to look forward to as well but they seem to have put it off for a while.
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Post 16779214 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
We're going to keep hearing "Chiba bans Bitcoin" until they actually do.
I do not want to be a dick, but this is a really good read about all this China FUD
http://fintekneeks.com/zerohedge-fakes-bitcoin-panic/. Especially the part, where they point to the fact, that China had a +buy volume during the selling, and how insignificant bitcoin is in a 100 trillion market.
Just a thought.
it doesn't matter what the truth is. there are enough scared children in the bitcoin market willing to shit the bed and run straight into the hands of the adults controlling them. this'll carry on until a majority of coins are in the hands of more hardened traders.
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Post 16786267 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
I wish more people here would realise this. When has btc ever shown any signs of acting as if it were a safe haven? Outside of these forums, basement dwellers and tech nerds, hardly anyone even knows what btc is. They might have heard of it once or twice. Wall Street is hardly likely to suddenly flock to crypto.
The US election result will probably have about as much impact on btc price as the much awaited halvening a few months ago - nil.
of course it ain't. you'd have to be pathetically deluded to think otherwise. but the perception of it is enough to initiate a pump from the same old suspects. i'll guess hardly any cypriots or greeks put one cent towards bitcoin but the idea of it was enough for existing users to have some fun.
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Post 16839455 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
a real whale is neither a bear or a bull. they sniff the mood and ride it to the stars before the rest of us even know what direction it's heading in.
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Post 16865084 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Great, now we are seeing another correction. We can be almost sure that Bitcoin's price will go as low as $680-$675 this time and stay there.
For everyone who claimed that we will reach $1000 in 2016 - better luck next year.
no matter what happens between now and then, it's been a good year overall. lots of signs of life when i was beginning to think terminal boredom had crept in. there's some momentum there. even if it's down that's still better than being stagnant.
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Post 16898085 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
what exchange would indians go on? localbitcoins and everything else are irrelevant for price movements. i can't imagine indian banking is the hottest in the world if they were wiring to china or america.
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Post 16898807 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
shorters could've made insane amounts in the last three years. the thing is that most people hang on to the same mindset for too long and blow it. there's still money in shorts but i think right now you'd be stupid to risk it. it could do all sorts of things right now.
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Post 16899575 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
I'm looking ferrariward for a rally that will crush detractors and bring them into a soiled state.
what sort of events do people think it would take to silence all but the most committed detractors?
100 billion market cap for more than 6 months? becoming the official currency of the vatican? amazon saying they're gonna remove all their products and only sell bitcoin from now on?
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sure, the denigration's never gonna stop. people still talk shit about gold and that's only been around for a few thousand years as a form of value.
but in many minds bitcoin is still small and fragile enough for a lot of people to be convinced that it'll be dust in a short while. i was wondering what would turn their thinking around even if they still hate the idea of it.
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https://medium.com/@zanetackett/i-have-resigned-from-bitfinex-4d7f1c6e48de#.kyev54ugfbitfinex's public face resigns. i wonder whether their future outages and screw ups are gonna get any type of explanation in future, not that this guy's were very reassuring.
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Post 16937651 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.
sure he does. i have 1 million too but i got bored of them so smoked the private keys.
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Post 16938121 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
But I'm surprised at how much attention he got. Anyone who used cryptography like ... ever ... knew there were guaranteed ways for him to prove he was satoshi (ar at least that he owned a bunch of early coinbases).
i don't think there's any way to prove you're satoshi any more. someone else could control whatever keys, most of his accounts have been cracked anyway and whoever really wanted to go the extra mile has had years to come up with their 'evidence'.
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Post 16938196 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
If 'going the xtra mile' means producing a private key that actually proves access to those early coinbase outputs, then he would need a helluva lot of years to come up with it. Like the lifetime of the universe.
This is what I meant. People don't actually understand what crypto can do.
Math is solid. No opinions necessary.
nope. if someone had the private key the only thing that means is that they have satoshi's private key. they could've found it, been sent it, bought it, tortured it out of him. anyone on the planet could do that.
that doesn't prove you're satoshi by any means.
by extra mile i mean providing research and evidence you'd been looking into bitcoin's creation for years before.
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yep. maybe satoshi went out drinking on the train and left his computer behind, or maybe his mother finds a computer open while he's playing lego in the front room and goes on a spending spree. anything could happen.
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Post 16949610 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
the 16 millionth coin was just mined. less than five million due to arrive now. that's an easy figure to forget.
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Post 17053618 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Ooh! ooh! Guess me next!
I'll guess that old school members have activity levels based on 10% of their holdings so you have 150000 btc give or take. and you all get 140 btc every two weeks from the block reward as an early signing bonus.
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Post 17054349 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
To continue the euphoric sensations we are enjoying, Segwit is approaching 35% of all the Bitcoin nodes.
i think segwit signalling is a different process. that's just running the latest node.
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Post 17054798 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
things are moving a little. bitstamp is now lower than btc-e which don't happen very often. that might be a sign of further action.
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Post 17054884 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
new highs in china for 2016. november turned out to be a tease. or maybe it's still november there. i dunno.
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Post 17079570 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
hasn't it always been called that anyway? it doesn't seem to be a very cheerful place. let's send them positive vibes.
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wut? Trump has never said a thing about bitcoin and if he could be bothered to think about it what's gonna stand out is China and its anti protectionism.
he'll have a little more on his plate than calling up the sec and haranguing them about something he knows nothing about that no one else has ever heard of.
let's hope he never does pay it any attention.
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Post 17110547 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
I think this is a damn shame however you look at it. I've used it a couple of times and it was ultra smooth. no id required either. I can't say I'm surprised. I wonder how patient some of these vc investors are. they're certainly not looking unicorn ish any time soon.
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Post 17110774 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
gold 2.0 would probably entail a way higher valuation than Internet cash but I can't see it happening while any type of doubt remains about capacity and political wrangling.
if it had arrived set in stone ready for that role it would just be a case of sitting back and waiting for more people to learn about it, but that's not the case.
as satoshi himself said it's either heading for triumph or oblivion within a few years.
the falling block reward is a time bomb in that aspect.
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Post 17111848 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.
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Post 17114064 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
yeah. you can mine all you want. if no one wants what you have then at least you're gonna keep warm while you burn your millions.
i've never understood the thinking that the price must be above what it costs to mine. your average trader and user doesn't know what the cost is and doesn't care on top. and i don't think exchanges are filled with miners desperately propping up the price. that would be an expensive hobby.
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Post 17121527 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
weird move. i'd be keeping it under my hat until i knew for sure it was gonna happen. still, i guess it keeps people excited.
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Post 17122799 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
https://twitter.com/OneMorePeter/status/806941219846811648you can buy bitcoin inside your blockchain.info wallet as of now. doesn't look horrifically expensive either. it's not for those americans with their horrible laws though.
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Post 17123917 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
A year ago, I was arbitraging between Europe and India, and used them pay BTC sellers in India. When I hit the hidden threshold, they called me. While having a friendly chat, I was asked what I was paying for. Told them it was for Bitcoin (why not, I thought, it aint illegal). Next thing they do is close my (already verified) account.
they have to keep their banking relationships happy. that outweighs anything to do with bitcoin. i think i read somewhere them saying good things about bitcoin but they had to stop dealing with it.
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Post 17124878 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Really? I'm sure the CEO said the opposite - that Bitcoin was dead and that nobody uses it.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/05/20/transferwise-ceo-bitcoin-is-a-friend/their tune seems to change pretty regularly. like quite a few others they started off positive and then got huffy.
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Post 17128956 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
This seems to come up every other page, but Adam (the OP) lost access to his account, so that poll is going to stick for eternity until the situation changes.
it's gonna be a legitimate historical artefact for the years to come. let's celebrate it.
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Post 17187305 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
All I know is there is no f'g way I'd buy a $777 bitcoin. Would you?
if i had a need for it or believed it was going to go considerably higher then sure. is this type of trolling really still a thing? it's kinda cute but i think we're nudging past that phase now.
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Post 17204492 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
I'm holding my coins because I don't even know where I would sell them now that IRS is looking at coinbase.
pay the tax and be happy? that sounds like a lot less work than spending the rest of your life sitting on paper gains or meeting weirdos and swapping cash in piss stained alleyways.
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Post 17207658 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
bitfinex hit its just under three year high. is this gonna be another fakeout or something different? i never thought 800 would be such a beast to take out.
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Post 17247149 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
well i won't really care if it falls back a lengthy way. it's been awesome to see it hit these levels in a relatively non crazy manner. here's to next year.
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Post 17247228 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
the memes here aint what they used to be.
i guess people here have matured or maybe the whole thing hasn't been violent enough. i wonder if movements are permanently quelled or this is a breather before something big.
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Post 17247276 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Or people aren't here to cheer for 800$... 8000$ maybe...
they should be. it's been a long, long time coming back with multiple failed attempts. i'm not screaming out loud or anything but it's a very good feeling to see it.
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Post 17253364 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
so at what point do people believe we start to overheat? is it on the verge of happening now or has it not even begun yet?
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Post 17253610 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Overheat? This is a cold start.
there's gonna be a short term top somewhere. i was wondering where it might be. perhaps this is just the beginning but it's already been an impressive rise.
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Post 17256719 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
WHAT!>!>!>>!>!!??!?!?!
That would be insane.
not really. you'd never notice. that's why they're looking off exchange to buy them. these mega buyers seem a little naive to me. there can't be that many people who have access to that many coins and they're also going to know what their future worth might be.
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Post 17256808 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
They should just market buy like normal people. It's all upwards pressure anyway.
the only places institutions like that would consider would probably be gemini or itbit if it's still going but they're not exactly dripping with liquidity. i guess they could swamp the daily auctions.
i guess they're in the business of letting the minnows raise the price while they sit back and profit.
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Post 17259036 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
salma hayek. i don't understand what she's supposed to represent in terms of bitcoin. she certainly seems to make regular appearances here for some reason.
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Post 17265820 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.59h):
Isn't it easier to keep it permanently suppressed?
If you initiate a bubble it's hard to know where it might end.
Utter boredom is better at wiping out hope than a crash.
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Post 17271420 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
lol
so you are basically saying that in 3 months an extra 100 billion dollars will be added to bitcoins market cap.
if exchange order books are thin enough then you could buy that 100 billion for a few tens of millions. market cap is a shitty mirage but we're kind of stuck with it.
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Post 17271479 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
so when does this forum go offline? i'm told that's an old school indicator of a real bubble starting to swell.
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Post 17319677 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
fomo affects holders just as much as short term buyers and sellers. if you'd been sitting for three years to make bank then you're gonna be a hardened believer by now.
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Post 17330633 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
Sold my coins at $500 each.
I feel ill.
may we ask why you sold them? was it necessity or did you think it had gone as far as it could?
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Post 17330842 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
I bought 10 coins in November at approx 700. Is that a small amount compare to other ppl here?
nope. that's way, way more than a lot of old school members on here. you'd be surprised how few many people have. of course no one may be telling the truth.
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Post 17337516 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
I think maybe in the past a small number of large players were able to manipulate the market. The marketcap of bitcoin is now much, much larger so it's a lot more difficult for those people to control the market as maybe they used to.
all anyone has to do is spread another china rumor. it's a tired old trope but it's guaranteed to work like a charm every time.
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i wouldn't call $10,000 moon myself. bitcoin would still be very small in terms of world finance. it would be a very significant figure but if it did get there then there's no way it's halting around there.
a 15 billion market cap is an amazing achievement but it could still fade away. $150 billion is heading towards proper money. once enough proper money's on the line then everyone else eventually follows.
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Post 17338930 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
it's dumb to tell anyone to buy anything. if they haven't figured it out for themselves then they shouldn't be introduced to something they're not gonna fully understand.
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Post 17364398 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
$1000.99 already hit on gemini a short while back. a bit of a backwater but a stone cold happening all the same.
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Post 17365955 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
looks like bitfinex has lost the ability to round off beyond the fifth decimal above 1000. nice work guys. knew we could count on you to screw a little something up.
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Post 17374599 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
$1200 happened because Mt.Gox was hacked.. there was trading bot later discovered that kept buying BTC at whatever price, boosting price to impossible range. So hacker has stolen BTC and side-effect was very inflated price.
it was a factor but gox was nowhere compared to china at the height of the bubble. it was already clearly a failing shithole long before it actually died. real people paid real money at those prices.
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Post 17376138 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
my only question right now regards how much longer china can remain tolerant of people using bitcoin to get around the capital controls.
bitcoin was designed for the unbanked masses not the chinese middle class (specifically anyway).
i don't believe 'normal' chinese people are anywhere near bitcoin, just as no 'normal' westerners are either. it's still the province of enthusiasts, visionaries and weirdos regardless of what country they're in.
we'd already be firmly in the tens of thousands if regularish folks had taken it to their hearts. and yeah, the chinese government would squash the exchanges. they have nothing much to gain from bitcoin spreading.
if they're willing to shut down their stock markets then they're sure as shit gonna shut down a few obscure bitcoin exchanges too. i'd prefer if it happened sooner rather than later.
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Post 17377372 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
1 hour video! Is there a section on btc I can skip to?
he's predicting that the chinese government will get hundreds of millions more online this year and wholeheartedly embrace bitcoin at the same time.
uh huh. i won't be betting the farm on that.
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1000 euros on kraken. it had to be coaxed over the line but there it was for a few moments.
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Post 17397379 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
is the 1000 what-ever-fiat party happening this time ?
weren't the rules that it had to stay over for a full month? that's kind of a big ask but anything's possible.
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Post 17397582 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
My browser keeps losing the connection to bitcoinity. It's probably overloaded with all the extra people accessing it with each $10 more up. Is anyone else having problems with it?
fine for me. but i'm not moving around very quickly. i've got it on in the background and checking occasionally for new gifs.
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and then the crash of the century? i wish china would settle their position once and for all so everyone else can get on with it.
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Post 17399353 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
Uphold looks interesting.
0.75% exchange fee is a little high but certainly looks convenient way to swap currencies.
isn't the ceo of uphold borderline anti bitcoin? i seem to remember him saying it would be nowhere in a few years, kinda like the circle ceo funnily enough.
and they're balls deep in some weird crypto named voxels that i've never heard of.
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Post 17400660 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
Guys..
What exactly is the peakiest peak peak all time USD high?
Bitstamp - $1163, Bitfinex - $1175, Gox $1230 ish but that shouldn't count because you couldn't withdraw dollars.
And there've been some awesome fat fingers too. i think $9800 was paid on campbx one time.
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Post 17418706 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
https://twitter.com/luluyilunwell, whaddya know. china 'bans' bitcoin again. an oldie but a goldie. go away china and don't come back.
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Post 17419215 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
So 'China ban' is pure FUD
yep. but that doesn't stop it working like a charm every.single.time.
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Post 17423515 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
This really is not a pleasant place to be at the moment hey.
Real blood on the streets.
really? seems fine to me. the rise was a little silly and unrealistic. anyone shocked by this hasn't been paying enough attention the last few years. let's see what the rest of this month brings before getting gloomy.
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Post 17426192 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
An impressive collapse for sure. Bitcoin never fails to break some hearts just when they're bursting with joy.
Will it ever leave this juvenile boom and bust stuff behind? Enquiring minds are intrigued.
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Post 17445013 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
I don't get why people compare today with late 2013. Wasn't the situation completely different then? Bitcoin is much more mature and look at the surrounding infrastructure; exchanges, etc. Whole different ball game.
is it really that different? thankfully gox is gone. still got the same chinese exchanges. most of the western ones are the same with some new players like gemini that no one seems to use very much. there's more margin madness. adoption hasn't exploded in any way at all.
it's come on a little bit but really it's a bit more evolution and nowhere near revolution.
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Post 17455452 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
FUD is always perfectly timed, isn't it?
if it's true then i wouldn't class that as bad news. it makes bitcoin considerably more legit. it also wipes out alot of the china bullshit. it's either something like this or they kill the exchanges outright. i would've expected a move like this further down the line. that's if it's true of course.
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Post 17465139 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
i think bitstamp allowed ripple as funding/withdrawal method even before 2013.
try finding a ripple portal or whatever so you can cut out international wires though. i couldn't find one i'd ever heard of or trusted.
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Post 17470708 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
Well it does make you think that if the majority of trading is happening in China then being held to ransom by the PBOC is to be expected.
if someone opened a zero fee exchange in lapland then that would become the world centre of bitcoin trading. tons of traders on the chinese exchanges will be from the west.
it's time china was dealt with once and for all. the current setup does not do bitcoin's future any good.
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that would be a huge leg, though. 780 is a huge critical point.
this is where the bears have to blow all the powder.
it'll probably slide through it like a flamethrower through butter. bulls are usually ecstatic to roll over at moments like these.
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Post 17473546 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
The Chinese exchanges must be short of bitcoin to back their registered deposits.
should anyone be surprised if this turns out to be true? none of the chinese exchanges have done much or anything to reassure everyone that they have what they purport to have. they've just been a little more subtle than other exchanges who fake hacks.
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Post 17473948 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Was bitfinex included in the raids? Dd it get off the hook because it's in Hong Kong?
bitfinex is spread all over the world as far as i can tell. there certainly won't be one office they can drop in on and get all the info they want. they also have nothing to do with cny.
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Post 17477355 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
T%his could be a double bottom provided the PBOC doesn't do anything else.
they haven't done anything apart from being sensible. it's the twitchy assholes on the exchanges who've pulled this off. there'll be plenty more to come.
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Post 17484954 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Stop pretending that the present technology couldn't handle large blocks.
bandwidth, baby. you can have all the tech you want, but when it comes to that you're depending on a bunch of work shy guys to turn up in a van and dig up your road. some people are lucky enough to be in a regularly upgraded area, others haven't had a change since the early 2000s.
on top of that you're at the mercy of your isp limits too. a lot of places will throttle you if you have a fraction of the average node's throughput.
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Post 17493288 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
A possible 10x drop in Chinese volume, how do you think that would look? Bullish?
a 10x drop of something that never really existed. getting rid of an irrelevancy is a good thing in the long run.
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Post 17498626 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
maybe one of the results of the chinese sniffing around is that we discover they've been naked short selling it all these years. could be fun.
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Post 17506368 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
do person to person transactions, localbitcoin, darkmarket etc.. have much of an impact on bitcoins price? Or is the price mostly determined/driven by exchanges?
zero. all of it happens on exchanges. some of the price index sites include them in their weighted averages but nothing more.
but the people who sell via p2p presumably get most of their coins from exchanges as they're cheaper so there will be some buying pressure.
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Post 17527363 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
as far as i can remember, the solidx etf has insurance for their coins, the winklevoss one doesn't. i wonder whether any of these policies have been properly put to the test though. bitpay's 'hack' was down to a moronic employee which their insurers were only too happy to reject.
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Post 17558124 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Whose got control of adamstgBit account and is censoring around here?
does anyone? i thought it was abandoned. it'll be the mods who're hard at work.
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Post 17595317 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
For the super rich, it's all about rarity, subjective (perceived) value, and bragging rights.
i don't think the super rich pour money into new technologies for the sake of impressing anyone. the only reason they'd do it is to become more super rich which is fine by me.
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Post 17607958 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
The rest of the world seeing that the Chinese exchanges were fake volume will either now realize that the jump in price was not due to Chinese rushing to get their money out of China.
i don't see how anyone other than a chronic bitcoin red piller could've ever believed that anyway.
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Post 17608639 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
===> *imho* >> India has been the 5000lb Gorillia driving the price up if you didn't already know! ;-)
where's the evidence for that? what indian volumes there are are pitiful and the price sky high. that points to not very many coins being bought.
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Post 17608738 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
try google trends---> bitcoin (in India)
that's all positive but what matters when it comes to price is buying on exchanges. on btcxindia 'india's leading bitcoin exchange' there were five trades in the last two hours amounting to about 1.3 btc in total.
wowzers. but they could be total nobodies for all i know.
localbitcoins is more relevant but those figures are still only $400,000 or so a week. i'm sure india will be an ever bigger deal but not right now.
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so china's volume is now piddly, though of course it's very early there. does this mean we're now immune to 'china bans'? it's gonna be a very different market from now on no matter what happens.
now we'll just have to rely on more bitfinex hacks instead .
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Post 17612234 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
So was the start of year pump some Chinese insiders having one last hurrah? That might explain the insane price difference.
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We don't need to pander to early bitcoiners. We need squeaky clean fresh ones to pour in.
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What do you people make of this? Will it make Mexicans look for alternative ways for remittances?
well, if they turn to bitcoin expect every exchange and buying service to have its ass hammered. it's not the type of thing they'd turn a blind eye to.
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Post 17645758 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Wo-wo-woah! What effect is that likely to have?
they're gonna wish they never bothered. every exchange, mixer and business will be scanning these addresses on top of all the analysts. i don't see how they can get rid of one btc without slipping up somewhere.
and if they try mixing on the dark net or something then hopefully the coins'll get re stolen.
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btc=e has a track record for freezing publicly identifiable stolen coins. everyone else'll do they same because if they don't they'll have hundreds of people on their ass screaming about it.
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Post 17661581 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
600 is just as arbitrary a figure as 900. it's worth whatever anyone's willing to sell for and someone else is willing to buy. the price is 95% hot air anyway.
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Post 17689174 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
So how long until PBOC tries to squash this rally too?
what do they have left in their arsenal? i think they might have suffered some premature ejaculation when it comes to suppressing it now.
it would be kinda fun to see the remaining chinese holders become stupidly rich off the back of western rallies. the little guys in charge over there would be heartbroken.
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Post 17721843 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
Bullshit... I own over 100 and I'm not even 10% in America...
maybe compared to the "rest of the world" but who cares
of course it's the rest of the world. and there are several billion people who have to rent or steal the pot they piss in.
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Post 17737998 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
I've never had an argument with him. I have had him on ignore for a few years.
I ain't got the time for the sheer volume he writes but I'm sure he's a great guy with valid points.
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Post 17743591 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
although to confirm it we would have to go as low as $135/
it needs to crash to nearly 1/10th of its value to confirm a double top? man, you like your movements spelled out in bold strokes.
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Post 17746879 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
By hiring "forking" actors. Forks and threats of forks are traditionally bad for price. And just when price is starting to go well, just like clockwork, the forking drama is reignited. We are just lucky that demand is so heavy that it exceeds the possible short-term problems created by the drama.
i've yet to see any fork talk affect the price. it's a long term and ongoing cancer, not like a china ban or gox death that's instant. the only time there will be an effect is if it's clear there is going to be contentious fork after which there might not a be a price at all.
and traders don't seem to care about a clogged network either.
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Post 17754853 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
What will happen now is that it's gonna get priced in and then there will be a huge dump if it doesn't get approved.
i don't believe there are many or any people betting anything on it being approved, or at least certainly not the regular bitcoin traders. they might use it as an opportunity to scare some people but that's about it. there'll be more movement if it's approved than if it isn't.
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Post 17790778 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
about time. go away china and remember not to come back. time to move beyond and it's a price well worth paying.
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Post 17791536 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
Still the effect of real news is not bigger than the January fall to $800 and lower that happened for no concrete reason, at least until now
I guess the chinese are getting less power in the price, what their next move will be?
Next step would obv be to close a small exchange. Then, after several smaller ones, proceed with the bigger ones.
Then go after the miners. Then go after every retailer that accepts BTC.
there are no retailers in china. the only thing in china is mining and exchanges. losing the mining is alarming, i dunno how things would pan out if they did or even whether it's possible. exchanges, let's get it over with.
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Post 17825572 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
And even if the network could handle it, how many of you actually use Bitcoin to buy and purchase goods and why not just use any other payment processing network?
i spend it relatively often but certainly less since fees went through the roof. after a price rise a lot of people will be inclined to spend some free cash but i guess that isn't really what it was originally intended for i'm sure. there's absolutely no reason for a non bitcoin user to obtain it to spend unless it's for something like a vpn or drugs.
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Post 17827753 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
But gold can not be manipulated so easily in the market as bitcoin can and is being done currently.
Until it can get a good backing like gold has in the federal reserves it will never be even close as stable as the gold prices are changing in the form of $2-20~ a per day.
i was kind of under the impression that gold is one of the world's most rigged markets. even if it isn't formally manipulated, the paper gold factor destroys price credibility.
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Post 17895257 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
'I don't have any inside information, but my sense is that the majority of the things that the SEC is particularly concerned about revolve around bitcoin itself as opposed to anything specific about the Winklevoss filing.'
that's your reason right there. it doesn't matter how great the application is if they have reservations about the underlying asset, and they would be sensible to do so.
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Post 17895806 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
If they have reservations about an underlying asset that essentially hasn't changed in its function for 8 years now, then that means that they will never approve an ETF. Because Bitcoin isn't going to "change" significantly moving forward.
That is, unless they change their reservations...
I think any denial of a Bitcoin ETF would be nearly 100% politically-motivated. It would mean that they (Governments? World Powers?) simply don't want Bitcoin recognized as a legitimate long term financial instrument. But that would be fine by me, as I think ETFs over time become corrupt, eventually holding back the underlying assets as opposed to supporting them.
or you could take the more generous view that they're not in the business of opening the gates to something that might fail catastrophically. everyone here is on board. someone from the outside looking in, and especially with the conservative mindset that a regulator has, is seeing threats of forks, chinese weirdness and regulatory uncertainty elsewhere. 8 years is not much of an age for a brand new asset class.
i think china would have been the biggest factor in them saying no. now that's being brought to heel the chances are higher.
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Post 17896326 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
or you can take the view that the last 8 years have had a party in power who has traditionally been attached to the east coast banking cartel and therefore not interested in anything new.
maybe, but regulators aren't in the business of running headfirst towards innovation. they should be conservative. in the great scheme of things there's really no hurry to get a bitcoin etf approved. it's only a tiny subset of people who are waiting for it.
the gld etf took long enough to approve and that was the definition of no brainer.
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Post 17915256 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
Look at that Chinese LocalBitcoins volume:
great firewall blockage in 3,2,1...
it's gonna be very interesting to see if they try to do anything about p2p stuff.
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Post 17931889 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
moon to me feels like it should be what's currently an inconceivable price. i can well believe that $1000 felt that way at the start of 2013. right now it would have to be tens of thousands for me.
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Post 17932269 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
the SEC disapproval dip will be the new silk road busted dip.
i think the china shutdown was our silk road myself. certainly very similar in nature, what we thought was propping up bitcoin turned out to be horse shit. it's just taking a little more time like every market movement these days.
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Post 17932378 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
moon to me feels like it should be what's currently an inconceivable price. i can well believe that $1000 felt that way at the start of 2013. right now it would have to be tens of thousands for me.
At the start of 2013 the ATH was $266. So it then basically shot past the ATH by about x4.5. The equivalent rise past the current ATH would take us to around $5000. Which would be nice, but we can hope for more.
the price at the start of 2013 was about 10 bucks. $266 wasn't until a few months later. over 100x in one year. it can't happen again to that scale but it can have a good try if it wants to. i won't stop it.
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Post 17956626 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
their buy in was at the $10 mark mainly i think. they've been at it for five years now and arrived long before many people here. they definitely ain't johnny come latelys.
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Post 17956857 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
their buy in was at the $10 mark mainly i think. they've been at it for five years now and arrived long before many people here. they definitely ain't johnny come latelys.
If they bought $11M worth of bitcoin around $10/btc, then they would have a million bitcoin.
Impossible, no way in hell that they have 1 million bitcoin worth over $1T.
Unless I'm confused and they had $11M worth of bitcoin in 2013 at $120/btc?? That would mean that they only invested like $1.1M in 2012 at $10/btc, giving them ~100K bitcoin.
1 million would be $1 billion, not $1 trillion.
However, I believe that the number the claimed is 21000 or 1/1000th of the supply limit. 0.1%
Yeah, had a brain fart on that calc, typed a T instead of a B. But I think I answered my own question, they must have invested around $1M or so in 2012.
If we assume their main stash was their 65 million Facebook payout, 1 million was bold but not suicidal. I'm doubt they would've gone much beyond that at such an early stage.
And that 1 % figure was the supply at the time they bought in 2012. I'm pretty sure 100,000 is the most common figure bandied about.
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Post 17966296 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
I can't believe in the ETF :/
It just can't happen...
I don't even see how it would make any sense!
no point sweating it. either it happens or it don't. and if it doesn't happen this time, you can bet your ass they'll keep on trying until something passes. i think if it's a no it'll be down to bitcoin itself being not ready. some day it will be.
you can tell by the big names attending meetings that it's still up in the air. if it was a definite no they wouldn't be wasting their own or anyone else's time.
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Post 17966424 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
I doubt we get past $1500. $10k is another ball game. Not this time, and not in the long time ahead.
i didn't expect it to be where it is now so soon, and especially with so little hype or drama. that means there's a bunch more hysteria that can be stoked. i kinda hope it doesn't happen but there's a chance it might. $1500 is possible if the rest of the world gets excited.
So what is China doing now!
the chinese market is not being permitted to function properly. it's essentially irrelevant. i hope it stays that way too.
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Post 17966602 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
It only takes a trillion USD market cap for $50k bitcoin. There is a total of ~$25 trillion in USA IRA's. Is it that hard to imagine global speculative bubbles that touch but do not sustain $1 trillion market cap by 2025? 2020?
0.1% of USA IRA funds ($25 billion) into the ETF bring us over $2500/BTC, and that is ignoring speculative buying by people in the trenches (us!).
you're forgetting how meaningless market cap is compared to real money.
25 billion real dollars put into bitcoin would push the price far beyond $2500. right now you could probably reach that price on the exchanges by spending 50-100 million dollars in one shot.
and if sellers sniffed out that there was a buyer with money to burn they'd go on strike and push the price up even further.
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Post 17966751 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
Thank goodness he invested so much time and effort protecting his fellow Brazilians from the dangers of Bitcoin!
i for one sleep better at night knowing he's typing 50-150,000 high faluting words of concern trolling every single day of his life. it means my chances of meeting him in real life are very low.
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Post 17967040 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
since you speak about meeting in real life, did you ever meet somebody from here? i would like to meet someday Karpeles and give me my bitcoins back!!! sorry i mean give me an explanation
since he don't have any bitcoins after all right???
no. i think it would probably be a very scary experience.
mark karpeles is being helpful within limits on
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/ right now. check him out -
https://www.reddit.com/user/MagicalTux/
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Post 17968449 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
Market cap notion used in Bitcoin (and altcoin) sphere is a pure nonsense. It is extremely misleading to multiply the current price by the number of coins, thinking (wishfully) that all of the coins can be, all of a sudden, sold at this price.
i totally agree but it applies to all assets in principle - gold, stocks. they're gonna have more demand of course so will hold up better in a vast dump scenario.
the one that really pisses me off is when alts publicise a total amount of coins and the developer release a tiny fraction of them. suddenly your shitcoin with $1000 daily volume has a higher market cap than bitcoin.
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Post 17968487 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
so what exactly is the new official ATH? as of right now 2/24/2017 at 6:55pm EST. I googled 1186 . Did it not break 1200?
thank you gentlemen...
over $1220 on bitfinex and bitstamp. i think bfx hit $1222.
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Post 17968858 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
But I always thought their number of an ath was not acknowledged by the bitcoin community to be the real high. But a false one because it was pumped out of proportion to be justified as the ultimate ath.
yep. it's a horseshit figure. gox did not function as a normal exchange at the time. you couldn't get usd out so that's why the price was higher as bitcoin was the only way to withdraw.
i don't understand why anyone takes it seriously. it would still be cool to take it down all the same.
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Post 18041953 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
I can't confirm if it's true, but someone in the Bter trollbox says Bitcoin withdrawals are now enabled again. Bter froze all Bitcoin and Litecoin withdrawals for a month like all the other Chinese exchanges. If Bter really has enabled withdrawals the other Chinese exchanges might enable them again soon.
bter has been effectively dead since their hack all those years ago. they never seem to respond to support any more and volume is tiny. weird that the government would pay them any attention.
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Post 18042471 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
I always tell my friends that i will not give them buy/sell advice and I never do.
i've given people btc. i'll never help them buy any or advise them about it. way too many potential problems with zero upside.
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Post 18065483 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
No, the media is almost everytime negative about bitcoin. The only 'insiders' you are talking about just cashed out. Some big fishes dumped their coins for fiat money. Thats my indicator for what the outcome of the COIN ETF will be.
we can interpret it any way we want. that supposition is just as valid as the other one. i'm just as clueless as i ever was despite reading all the theories.
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Post 18142483 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
So... Where are all the huge dumps and bounces? Only one?
I guess this a much smaller impact than everyone was predicting. Maybe the big correction and pump before the decision contributed to clear a lot of leverage and cushioned the dump?
it's gonna take a while to digest. i think there are some big bags waiting to unload. maybe they're waiting for bids to build up again and some false security to develop.
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Post 18142561 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
that all makes a bunch of sense to me. even if they loved the idea, if they don't have the info to do their job then they have to say no to it. however, they could've figured this out within a couple of hours of receiving the application all those years ago.
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Post 18148422 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
Crap that sounds like ether when it goes pos coin in July is it?
when it is used by the banks the monetary value of it is gonna be long gone. all they want is the code to use as a program for their own purposes, not that the pumpers are gonna admit that.
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Post 18149657 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
Those that sold at $1350 and bought back at $975 - I'm absolutely facsinated at how you managed it. How did you know ?
Actually - forget it - you are talking out of your arses.
it was certainly a lot of fun to watch. since most of the exchanges crapped out they're probably talking out of their asses about their trading triumph too.
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Post 18149951 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
Gotta feel for the Winkles a little bit. I know they are privileged cocks - but they believe in BTC just the same as the rest of us.
it must be a real pisser to have all that effort thrown away at the last minute, especially when the sec could've saved it all for them years before. i wonder what other options they're looking at. i hope they keep pushing gemini at least.
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Post 18153703 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
no gemini at present. have they already rage quit or was this the longest exit scam in bitcoin history so far? maybe they poured a few drinks in their servers to drown their sorrows.
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Post 18160949 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
i am waiting for next ETF decision.
what's there to wait for? it's a cast iron guaranteed no unless solidx manage to completely change the bitcoin market within the next coupla weeks.
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Post 18164060 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
i'm feeling bearish again... ( selling coins will do that to you )
delusional bulls are done chasing their magical unicorn.
time for reality to set in, NO ETF == billions are not going to pour into bitcoin, NO ETF == No reason to hodl.
wut? if an etf had happened billions would've poured into bitcoins that are locked away in a market of their own. it's possible the winklvoss twins would be able to turn over tens of billions of dollars and never need to touch the open bitcoin market ever again.
and maybe those billions will arrive on the open market a in few years when alot of the current crap is ironed out.
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Post 18164391 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
Yup. Hardware wallets are selling out fast.
Why use an ETF when you can hodl your bitcoins at home on a Trezor? (If you can find one to buy).
this is very true. i bought a ledger nano s the other day and it took quite some finding. amazon sold out and couldn't tell me when they were getting more in.
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Post 18169730 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
No, because no one in their right mind uses crypto for it's utility other then gambling by trading
Only the religious people, or poor people, whose only wealth is in crypto are actually paying for things in BTC. One of the important rules with crypto is that never believe your own bullshit sales pitches
All the cryptos are currently pretty useless outside of speculative play.
Maybe in the future, we will have a crypto, that is convenient enough to actually be used a practical form of payment!
I have hoped for many years already.
weird. i just paid to rent a holiday house in america with bitcoin.
these assholes didn't take cards. i would've had to create a dollar check and post it to america. including post, check creation and cashing it, it would've taken several weeks.
instead i told them to go to bitpay and sign up. one hour later it was fully paid for.
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Post 18172370 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
bitcoin market cap now is 79.7%. Volume is only 33 % higher than Ethereum. Whats going on ?
no etf relief? that would've put bitcoin head and shoulders above anything else in terms of perception even if the reality ain't so impressive. now they can continue with their 'bitcoin killer' narrative.
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Post 18188407 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
I haven't had time to review this vulnerability but that might be way worse than it sounds. Most "crash from remote" vulnerablities are due to buffer overflows which can lead to exploit from remote when more finely crafted.
Maybe this is enough to create some awareness of the importance of following the right process instead this children fights.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5zdkv3/bitcoin_unlimited_remote_exploit_crash/some extra info here. anti BU people should be keeping future bugs to themselves. then they can roll them all out at once for a real party.
incredible that they'd be this slack. if they want everyone to take on their ideas then at least make sure the foundations are bulletproof. then you can carry on with your mud slinging.
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what a shame.
for who? even the most fervent unlimited supporter might not be very impressed if the entire system seized up. i'll bet there are many more surprises hiding too.
they shouldn't have put their heads above the parapet until their game was 100% immaculate. if you want to influence a 20 billion dollar deal expect to have your every move gone over with thousands of microscopes.
this ain't play time any more and this is more than an internet spat for the lulz.
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Post 18189600 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):
its a shame that BU does not have as much peer review and scrutiny.
I dislike the idea of having one team ( mostly all employed by 1 company ) having so much leverage.
i get where you're coming from but they shouldn't have brought a knife to a gun fight. they needed to have brought a howitzer.
if their ideas and execution were plain better then i believe there are enough rational people to turn the tide. but they ain't, so there ain't.
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Post 18218632 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
right now it's kind of hard to tell what's what. the sheer amount of alt shilling and block fud makes me want to turn off my computer for a few weeks and go sit in a field. the whole crypto scene has notched up a level in noise and obnoxiousness recently.
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Post 18218656 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
What is "BU" ?
Bitcoin Unlimited. Where have you been? It's kind of hard to miss at the moment.
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Post 18218768 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Where would be the best place to keep up to date on whats going to happen re:fork, BU, Segwit news?
Didnt see the news about the hard fork and sold at a much lower point than I would have liked to.
right now i don't think there is one place on the entire internet where you're gonna get an objective report on any of it.
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Post 18241021 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
it would be real interesting to see what effect a poloniex goxing would have on bitcoin itself. there must be tens of thousands on there minimum.
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even if this is total bullshit, it's still a kind of far out idea.
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Post 18241691 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
The shit storm is already going on. BUcoin hardfork is already priced in!
it sure is, but i'd say there's another $900 of wiggle room downwards to be absolutely certain.
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Post 18241930 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Yes, it is. Chances of a hard fork happening are already above 90%. I'd advise SW pools to switch temporarily to BU and activate the fork then switch back to Core. Better give psychopaths their BUcoin and get rid of those bitcoin haters.
where the hell did you get this 90% figure from?
the closer it gets to a reality, the more the price is gonna punish them.
anyone can run a node or up their hashing to rattle their sabre. if you're actually staring into the abyss most people are gonna chicken out and realise it's not a game.
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Post 18242103 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Yes, and I'm 100% sure that they can't get that huge hash-power.
but this could be like the war on terror. it's gonna be never ending and it can be ramped up whenever it suits people to do so. i really hope some acceptable solution is arrived at or it'll be hanging over bitcoin until people simply embrace something else that isn't so goddamn squabbly.
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Post 18242244 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
If we can't fix it why would any other coin?
because fixing bitcoin is like changing wheels on a train while it's still working the express route every day.
if nothing else it's providing truly huge amounts of information for other people to take and run with. maybe someone will scratch build something that addresses the most common gripes in a way that's so logical it's impossible to take any type of position against.
a long shot of course, but i wouldn't underestimate the lessons we're learning every day and they're really, really hard to retrofit on bitcoin itself.
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even if this is total bullshit, it's still a kind of far out idea.
real.
thoughts?
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Post 18243416 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
so right now core tokens are $800, unlimited tokens are $190. gotta admit i don't really understand it but hey core is a larger amount.
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Post 18243502 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
It's a funny thing Bitfinex has created to cash on the Bitcoin vs Buttcoin debate. Now people can place their bets even BEFORE a hardfork happens. If it does, those tokens will be exchanged for the corresponding coins on each fork (BCC for Bitcoin and BCU for Buttcoin).
Funny and interesting to watch.
i don't understand how any of it works either. so you're burning existing coins to get in? do you get BTC coins back if nothing happens?
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Post 18243921 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Both goods points, I was thinking the same thing and wondering if Roger Ver had some form of autism or some other impediment that may be preventing him from seeing the potential risks he is facing by destroying people's wealth; risks up to and including his own demise.
you could say the exact same thing about mark karpeles. he must have destroyed the wealth of tens of thousands of people, possibly some completely.
what did vigilantes do? try to interrupt his coffee drinking on the way into the office.
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Post 18250326 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
nodes don't really mean a great deal. it's a vote that costs a few bucks a month to run on a vps for many people. many core nodes are just as meaningless.
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Post 18250760 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
but again all that is is signalling. there's a whole bunch of difference between telling the world 'hey, i love unlimited' and actually going through with it. no doubt this wu guy would, but he'd need alot more people who are more likely to waver.
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You know that Core is getting desperate when they are resorting to DDoS'ing BU nodes.
They are also DDoS'ing bitcoin.com
and who do you think might have been relentlessly spamming the blockchain for months on end? hmm. i can guess one bunch who might have some type of agenda.
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Post 18251663 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/843478250500358144bitfury threatens to sue if there's a proof of work change.
would a proof of work change drive more miners to unlimited and then they can all be fired or would it drive some compromise?
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Post 18296886 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Isn't a fork very unlikely? The ones in control of such fork should've figured out the uncertainty and bad press involved with such an event. In the end we all want bitcoin to succeed. I call price manipulation at its finest. When the whales have bought back in, the scaling debate will pass.
a fork's getting unlikelier by the day as more people come out against it. i think the dude's beef is the ongoing stalemate, arguing and how it was all allowed to get this way when it could've been averted a long time before.
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Post 18297235 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
Now if Jihan BU would find a plausible reason to change its mind and begin signaling for Segwit, the price would skyrocket. That's the wise bet and a win-win for everyone.
and just maybe one of the causes of all of this madness is the retraction of the 2mb hard fork agreement from that hong kong meeting by core/ not core.
if that was in the bag maybe he'd be signalling segwit right now, but it's too late to know what's true and what isn't regarding that agreement it's been spun so many times.
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Post 18297355 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
If antpool and others followed slushpool's example and gave individual users of the pool a percentage of the "vote" we would likely see a much quicker resolution to this standoff.
does antpool have any users other than the main man himself?
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Post 18297516 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
http://www.coindesk.com/bats-trying-overturn-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-rejection/bats file objection to etf rejection. i presume these guys know enough to bother doing this or do they like to be punished?
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Post 18307583 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
And that's because I think it is unlikely the scaling problem won't be addressed. The situation is already heated enough as to assume it will be addressed before end of year. If it wasn't then we would have a real problem.
or you could look at it the other way and perceive that a fork back down is an endorsement for core to carry on as they are. they can point to their solution and say the only thing holding it back is miners. those miners will also know that forcing through a fork ain't gonna go down well.
more deadlock but reinforced by recent events this time. i really hope not though.
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Post 18307706 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
I am speculating on miners finally coming back to their senses and start signaling for segwit activation. The ball is now on Jihan BU's court.
i believe that's unlikely myself. until recently most miners didn't signal for anything other than the status quo.
what do you think would convince him to do so?
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Post 18307737 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
I have a hard time believing he does not realize that Layer 2 solutions will result in increased fees for miners, not decreased.
i think providing a test version or thorough demonstration of some of this second layer stuff would clear a lot of things up and maybe open enough eyes.
i've read a bunch about lightning networks. i still don't really know what it'll mean for the average user or miner.
maybe what the miners are objecting to is voting for something that very few people actually know anything about. everyone knows what a bigger block does, or rather the theory of them, as long it doesn't break bitcoin. i'm sure there'd be some unintended effects with them too.
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i hope it all pans out that way.
but perhaps segwit and litecoin is now directly influenced by bitcoin players who see it as a proxy. their activation is flat too.
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Post 18308596 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):
95% hashrate activation seems crazy. I can't understand why they ever thought that was going to happen.
wasn't 95% the threshold for previous soft forks like the child pays for parent thing? i might be totally wrong.
i guess they assumed it wouldn't be controversial...
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Post 18316296 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Indeed. They're conspiring a 51% attack:
man, these guys are PR geniuses. way to go to to inspire confidence in the future of bitcoin. they're gonna get everyone's full support with this.
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Post 18321516 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
i only buy coins that i can hold in a hardware wallet. Ripple is a centralized huge ponzi. I would be ashamed to trade my btc into it. I know that btc will be worth 10 times its value than nowadays. Ripple can go f** itself
the way things are at present why aren't you making your own coin and getting it on the exchanges? people would pump little wooden tokens with strings of letters and numbers carved into them right now.
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Post 18322622 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
https://i.redd.it/xdinvn782gny.pngbitfury have mined a block signalling bip148 - the mandatory activation of segwit.
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Post 18323449 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Where do you think the bottom will be this weekend?
sunday 04.59.32 zulu time.
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Post 18332532 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
If we keep coins on one chain we can choose to sell the coins on the other forked chain. That way we get to keep our stash and get a shitload of cash too.
or a shitload of nothing? there's a few thousand old schoolers. the rest are scared and greedy kids.
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Post 18332597 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
But it would have to crash to half its current value before we lose out, and for all we know people might start buying in anticipation of getting double coins.
that's the type of thing you'd do with an alt because ultimately it doesn't matter. with bitcoin a proper split really would matter. i've no idea what people would do in that scenario but it's probably not gonna be positive.
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Post 18335296 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
i feel that once this scaling debate is somehow resolved, which ever way it goes, even worst case scenario, we'll end up WAY higher than this...
Two years ago I was pissed when it went below $250, now I'm pissed when it goes below $1000. In another two years I'm hoping to get pissed when it goes below $10000 after a rally to $30000 or more.
Or 2017 could be a total retrace of what happened in 2014...
No China. If it does come back to life it's gonna be a zombie market. I think it's hard to guess the difference that will make but it's gotta be huge.
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Post 18343530 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
https://archive.fo/zpHrmlittle or no mention of this?
a vague plan for a bitcoin classic alt which is what should've happened in the first place.
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Post 18343940 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
What should have happened is these guys that don't like what Bitcoin has become should have sold and moved on to some other "coin" altogether, rather than just cloning it and calling it classic or whatever.
but we all get free classics to corrupt us further.
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Post 18345613 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Just wait until the Forkening.
uh huh.
will you be forking alone or are some friends gonna fork with you? let us know how it works out for you.
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Post 18345640 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Yup , forkening almost confirmed.
i can believe there might be an altening like this classic proposal, even if that one's bullshit.
no one will succeed with a contentious fork of the original chain. everyone apart from a small bunch of miners and their crew has roundly condemned the idea.
this time around was their best shot and they blew it with their pure amateurism.
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Post 18345727 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
"contentious fork" HAHAHA, what ridiculous slander
The forkening is coming, you can't stop it, nobody can.
ok. have fun.
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Post 18353073 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
They're supporting their desire to seize power. And no one's actually running BU.
They may be hungry but they ain't stupid. They'd signal an implementation that did nothing but make a farting noise if it got them power.
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Post 18353541 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
They're supporting their desire to seize power. And no one's actually running BU.
They may be hungry but they ain't stupid. They'd signal an implementation that did nothing but make a farting noise if it got them power.
I am going to hodl from now on guys. Cant predict this price anymore. BU is screwing my mathematical calculations all over today. Rip trading, it was fun while it lasted. Huge profits but also huge losts like today. Now i only have my good old cold storage. I will dump more fiat money in it and keep hodling. Rip easy trade days.
Yes for the haters: i got rekt today like you hodlers get rekt earlier this month. But i have to go trough all the stress and switching to shitty altcoins and fiat like some crazy idiot. And for what...
And a new hodler was born.
It really hurts. I increased my stash so many times i felt like a pro. And now BOOOM! All trading stash destroyed by 1 mistake, nice. Hodling for ever is the only right choice. This means that i will become just as sassy and sarcastic like you guys? Its part of the hodling process i guess. Smeagol was also hodling his precious ring and look how he turned into shit haha
Everyones a trading hero until they're not. Even the most active traders will only be using a small proportion of what they have.
Don't be this guy
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/606fz4/my_final_margin_call/
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Post 18353634 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Isn't f2p a pure pool that doesn't mine themselves?
They're worth listening to but it's down to the miners using them.
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Post 18364331 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Another inane ignorant falsehood. I'm running BU. Have been for more than a year.
uh, no. i meant miners. y'know, the people who actually might lose money if they run piece of shit code. that says enough.
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Post 18365313 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Yup, miners are running BU. 37,2% by hash rate right now... Did you think the BU signaling is just for show?
they are mining blocks with core software with a little message that says they're digging unlimited. read up.
that is signalling, not running. big and obvious difference.
if they had been running unlimited they would've lost money with the node crashes, let alone what other problems there might be.
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Post 18366016 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
nah. several people seem to have tried to big up india as a bitcoin paradise. i couldn't see any evidence of it other than one tiny exchange that was stupid expensive.
it's the same stuff every central bank has said.
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Post 18433656 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
crazy stuff going on in the alts and folks are going to look at BTC dominance near 50% vs historical 80% plus and boom
they didn't do a very long lasting job of convincing us that alts were gonna usurp bitcoin. i wonder when people are gonna finally stop swallowing that narrative. i guess the pumpers will need a few tens of millions more in play money so they can try again.
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Post 18472723 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
so LTC + Segwit scaling = Triple the price
may we *please* now go ahead already and do BTC + Segwit scaling = Triple the price ?
does that make sense to everyone yet ?
you pesky moon kids shouldn't be asking for positive developments. they know better and what's best for all of us is to sit doing nothing for the rest of eternity.
and here's some fun info
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/63otrp/gregory_maxwell_major_asic_manufacturer_is/tldr = bitmain has been exploiting a secret power saving advantage that disappears if segwit happens.
behavior explained. when can we wipe these assholes out?
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Post 18473524 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
I do believe this to be bullish, however.
if they can be gotten rid of or brought to heel somehow.
other than that it confirms they have a very strong reason to maintain the status quo. they already set their credibility on fire before but the hashing power remains.
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Post 18507241 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
It was just a fake ETF pump&dump. It lasted for 2 minutes on that level. That ATH was just as fake as GOX.
The real ATH was on 3-3-2017 if you ask me.
real money was paid and real coins were bought. of course it was dumb exuberance but it happened.
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Post 18522619 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
https://mobile.twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/851135138876473344Charlie Lee decides mining assholes have had enough fun. Possible uasf ahoy.
It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out.
Bitcoin could learn alot, even if it's a shocking mess.
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Post 18522918 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
If one guy thinks he has that much pull in a crypto community (or tries to have), then it still is truly a small and insignificant economic market.
and mr wu our mining friend doesn't? they were on the verge of hitting 75% until he showed up once again. and the key words are user activated.
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Post 18523742 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
what do people make of this?
https://twitter.com/lightningasic/status/850351212536803328it's saying the chinese national grid is now inspecting people who buy power direct from power plants which is illegal and not the national grid, which is.
i dunno if this is huge or nothing or another government assertion of control. it seems a bit strange that power plants would be able to siphon stuff off on the side but i've long given up trying to figure out chinese practices.
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Post 18533149 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
gold underpins lots of electronics and aerospace parts among other things. i still have absolutely no desire to own any.
why isn't this roach guy on a precious metal forum instead?
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Post 18594268 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
https://btc.com/stats/pool/F2PoolF2pool signaling for segwit again, but this guy is such a prick tease it's hard to take anything seriously any more.
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Post 18597374 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
I think some prices in china are due to the withdrawal issue (you can withdraw in cash, not in btc - so you sell the btc to get your cash).
Not sure if they've allowed normal withdrawals.
This case is long gone, btc withdraws were blocked only on okcoin.cn not okcoin.com, and the block was shifted like a month ago.
tell that to the chinese. by the looks of things they're all still waiting.
https://news.bitcoin.com/big-money-china-bitcoin-traders-wait-withdrawal/
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Post 18616378 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Whats wrong with all those exchanges, they all have something nowadays. Strange prices, stucked coins, bank problems and lots of other strange things like whale manipulation and fake volume
i think the exchanges have always been screwed in one way or another, but they worked well enough for long enough to convince enough people.
they're the direct interface with old world finance. there's always gonna be failure and friction.
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Post 18626409 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/200all fiat deposits blocked. bfx is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Post 18626936 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Is this war with banks just starting or is Bitfinex going to be able to find a solution?
it's the only exchange that banks out of taiwan i presume. every exchange will have different banking routes.
if i was a banker i would want anything to do with them. at least places like bitstamp can point to some regulation.
when people say bankers are at war with bitcoin, more often than not the majority of the problem is the banks being at war with regulations that bitcoin might breach.
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Post 18629610 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
I think an underlying vulnerability in the exchange ecosystem right now is Tether, specifically its legality under banking laws in the various countries where exchanges are established and using Tether. Pegging an electronic token to the USD as a service to depositors is about as close as you can get to a bank without actually being a bank.
it's pretty much another liberty reserve and that didn't end so great for anyone involved. if governments want to get heavy on it it's all sitting in a bank account waiting to be frozen.
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Post 18673874 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
not the greatest circumstances for an all time high. but i don't get the people who are saying all fiat is frozen. there are a bunch of places where it moves just fine.
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Post 18674675 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
What if the price is rising because miners are not dumping, since they cant withdraw fiat?
i'll put good money on the fact that not one single professional miner has sold on an exchange in the last few years. it'll all be otc. the buyers are out there. they got the supply.
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Post 18676770 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Bitfinex coldwallet down to 77k BTC from 137k, almost half. GET OUT PEOPLE. #BITFINEX #BITCOIN
what's the problem? that's customers leaving. if that balance wasn't moving or all disappeared in one go, then it's time to worry.
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Post 18678947 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
wtf is this, almost 100$ price difference, this can't be good. Can finex do anything to be back to normal? Or we pass that point and now they need some kind of external intervenience? Idk...
it's kind of out of bitfinex's hands. the last thing i read they were trying to do one time transfers through their attorney which probably breaks about a million laws. it looks like they need to abandon taiwanese banking and go somewhere else but that's easier said than done. this might go on for a long time.
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Post 18687589 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Currently, the price on Bitfinex is
1323 USD. The price on Bitstamp is
1242 USD and the price on BTC-E is
1235 USD, even though BTC-E is having problems with fiat deposits as well.
There's a huge pump already, and it's only going to get bigger.
that's not a pump. that's the symptom of exchange dysfunction.
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there's money to make. no exchange is anyone or anything's friend.
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Post 18698465 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Strange since I thought BTC-E had issues withdrawing USD as well?
don't they have multiple methods of moving usd? they do visa cards as well and all the fiat is moved by third parties so maybe some aren't going through taiwan. but btc-e is a seriously weird place anyway.
and for more price weirdness check the chinese prices. there's nearly a $300 spread between there and bitfinex.
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Post 18701378 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
I'm just sitting here waiting for the dump after the segwit gets activated in LTC...
and it might also be the inspiration to push it forward for btc too. you never know.
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I'm just sitting here waiting for the dump after the segwit gets activated in LTC...
and it might also be the inspiration to push it forward for btc too. you never know.
the thing is btc actually have a real use for segwit... ltc is just hype show
I think this is the perfect way to approach the possibility with bitcoin. There are too many people who would've been too cautious to run it without it being activated elsewhere. A lot of cool stuff will mushroom on litecoin. Bitcoin will want a slice of the action too.
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Post 18727781 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Can we reach the $1300 in coming days? If Litecoin finally decides to adopt Segwit can this affect the price of bitcoin too? Can people think that the end of the scalability debate would be closer and could raise the bitcoin price thus?
unless jihan wu is somehow fired by everyone else then bitcoin won't scale. give it some more time and it'll literally be him against the rest of the world and that can only last so long.
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Post 18773597 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
we made it w/o the Chinese!
we made it because there are no chinese. they were a bunch of dump happy worthless assholes who bought nothing to the party.
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Post 18773899 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Bit harsh perhaps?
harsh but fair. it used to drive me crazy watching the other exchanges obeying china when it was obvious to me at least that it was nothing but a mirage. it moves were boringly predictable. there's no way they would've allowed the current price.
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Post 18775235 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Nah, it's a bubble. I know I look like I'm running around spreading FUD everywhere, but I don't have enough money in Bitcoin to have a decent incentive to do that. I just think that people would be much safer if they're either holding for the long term or selling soon so that they can buy back in at the inevitable drop to under $1200, whenever that happens.
if this is a bubble then i also happen to be satoshi.
a bubble makes you shake your head in amazement every morning when you check the price. if this was a bubble there'd be talk of taking out bank loans on here and people going crazy everywhere. read this thread in 2013.
none of that is happening. there's no euphoria, no media attention, nothing. only a high price.
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Post 18775666 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
A bubble doesn't have to be a thousand dollars and completely insane investors throwing all of their money in before it falls back down, it can be any significant meaningless change in the price. Healthy growth has to have a reason, otherwise it's a bubble - can you actually explain, with words, why the price has gone up 100 dollars?
no. a strong price rise is a rally. a bubble is when all reason is thrown out the window. there hasn't been a bubble since 2013 and we're not in one now.
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Post 18775902 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Maybe you are looking at the pump and dump alts instead of looking at the legit ones. Just saying but you seem a little butthurt just because you got rekt trading alts...
it don't matter how 'legit' any alt is. they're all being pumped and dumped. you can make the most honest and best coin in the world. the pumpers are gonna descend on it.
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Post 18786318 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
I have a feeling that bitcoin will go up to 1400... what do you guys think ?
I have a feeling you need to be mentally insane to buy bitcoin with a $300 spread with China and $100 spread between ScamFinex and everywhere else. You see Adam pop in and out of here cheerleading the carnage but you know damn well he's not buying right now lol. This market is a trainwreck. What the hell am I even looking at? A $20-$25 spread used to mean "welp, that's it for this pump, time for the crash". Now it's just Bernie Madoff/Gox style scam spreads everywhere and people don't even seem to care.
Can't wait to see what excuse the exchanges come up with when this thing blows up:
You are perfectly right.
Similar situation full of disbalances however did not prevent bubble back in 2013
and majority of investors here have gambling streak. So the rise will only run its course until it exhausts itself on major resistance or Finex goes bankrupt. Whatever comes first. 1500 is reasonable price to close our position and wait for the reckoning.
you guys' FUD pretty funny and outlandish.
Not gonna work though, sorry.
Try again, lol.
As far as I know, bitfinex and poloniex are not showing their prices in USD. They are showing their prices in USDT, everybody can see that in the news section of bitfinex explained better than i am trying (tether or USDT is another crypto that tries to be 1:1 with USD), so if you check the price of tether: 0.928147 USD right now and you do the maths, you will see that the price of BTC in these exchanges is theter based. So that is not a problem of weird spreads announcing doom. China is another history, but that is nothing new lol.
Do you really think bitfinex would be the world's biggest exchange if every dollar there was a usdt joke token?
The price is because real dollars aren't going in or out.
Hopefully you have a little more comeback when they go belly up with real dollars but I'll believe it when I see it.
Only poloniex is pure usdt.
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Post 18789657 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Hear Hear!
There's always only one winner in crypto, sooner or later a good performing altcoin gets dumped to shit & they dive straight back into bitcoin. It's crypto law
crypto law is being rewritten by the hour. the sooner people realise that alts ain't going away and are actually a whole separate thing the better they'll feel.
most of them are utter shit. that still won't stop them and there are many crypto traders who've never touched bitcoin now. they went straight into alts and they'll stay there.
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Post 18798389 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Who is Adam, please, thanks ? I´m fairly new here, and i feel pretty funny, not knowing who the f . . Adam is
Adam and Eva ? or some such. All i know, in the beginning, there was bitcoin . . .
he's the man who founded this thread. then he lost control of his account. now he's back as killerpotleaf. and maybe he should ease up on the booze.
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Post 18800688 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Long term, If bitcoin is doing great some of the alts will do 3x great.
At least that's how I look at things, if btc grows alts will follow.
the current alt bubble was sparked by the etf denial.
that tells me that alts exploded in relief that bitcoin didn't get a seal of legitimacy that lifts its status to level far beyond theirs. because it didn't it's all scratching around at the same level still.
which also tells me that if bitcoin ever did step up and out of the current quagmire alot of alts would fart their last as the hope had gone.
but it hasn't, so they won't.
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I think even if bitcoin problems get solved some or even more alts will also continue to rise due to the increasing adoption of cyrptocurrency.
nothing to do with problems, all to do with future prospects. the etf would've destroyed the alts for quite some time. it would've been a giant signal that bitcoin was ascending out of its traditional shit hole and leaving them behind.
ultimately it might have been a disaster and it doesn't need it anyway, but the perception is all.
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Post 18802518 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
xrp feels like it's been around forever. i still don't understand how it managed to inveigle its way into being thought of as a cryptocurrency when there's nothing i can detect that bears any resemblance to what one should be.
the only reason i can think of is that it appeared around the same time.
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Post 18811512 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
I strongly disagree, no agreement in scaling battle would be bullish news for BTC and a proof of Bitcoin's stability. And who cares how much does payment costs if we are hedging against collapsing western civilization.
bullish for the true believers. unfortunately there ain't very many of them. everyone else is chasing those dollars.
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Post 18813452 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
Currencies are never a store of value.
uh huh. dangle a dollar in front of your average venezuelan and see whether they're interested in it or not. same goes for many nationalities around the world. they may not be designed to be, but they sometimes end up that way.
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Post 18815217 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):
so yet another all time high and all it gets is one train photo. you people are weird.
i wonder what changed. that says to me that we're about a million miles away from hype and euphoria which means there's room for a big ass rise.
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What the hell is going on there I wonder?
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I do agree. But again, all this does is give "legitimacy" to the PREVIOUS ATH. Also it is starting to consolidate as new bottom/support.
But I won't be calling NEW ATH until it is clearly above ($100+ more would make it) the previous one. That is what would signal to me that a new rally has started. It is also what I am expecting for this week.
i'll wait for an all time high that includes a china that works and a bitfinex that's either dead or back to its old self.
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Post 18837768 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
I remember reading somewhere that 1600 figure has now moved up, but maybe that was a shorter. Shorting seems kinda quaint at the moment.
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Post 18870523 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
An Eth shill came up with the best description of the Bitfinex situation:
I won't be surprised if it turns out that the fiat withdrawal problems at BFX were deliberate, so could unload their own bags at a premium price on their own exchange. It wouldn't be surprising if they go full gox with money going missing either. Anyway people who deal with them will probably loose one way or another.
The second those charts turned bad for bitcoin and the market began to roll over, Bitfinex immediately pulled the plug on withdrawals right at the top of the cliff. Then, instead of going down, they forced a short squeeze of basically every single customer on their entire exchange, plus forcing all cash holders to dump fiat and buy bitcoin to be able to remove anything from the exchange at all, and here we are now in some absurd bubble with $100 spreads or more between all exchanges.
This would be the nightmare scenario. And the timing fits. But what evidence do we have that BFX initiated the fiat problems? I though it was Wells Fargo (remember the so-called lawsuit against Wells Fargo they pulled).
Small problem with that theory. There are shit tons of other payment processors operating through Taiwan with the exact same problem. Is bitfinex paying them to pretend?
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Post 18870693 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
An Eth shill came up with the best description of the Bitfinex situation:
I won't be surprised if it turns out that the fiat withdrawal problems at BFX were deliberate, so could unload their own bags at a premium price on their own exchange. It wouldn't be surprising if they go full gox with money going missing either. Anyway people who deal with them will probably loose one way or another.
The second those charts turned bad for bitcoin and the market began to roll over, Bitfinex immediately pulled the plug on withdrawals right at the top of the cliff. Then, instead of going down, they forced a short squeeze of basically every single customer on their entire exchange, plus forcing all cash holders to dump fiat and buy bitcoin to be able to remove anything from the exchange at all, and here we are now in some absurd bubble with $100 spreads or more between all exchanges.
This would be the nightmare scenario. And the timing fits. But what evidence do we have that BFX initiated the fiat problems? I though it was Wells Fargo (remember the so-called lawsuit against Wells Fargo they pulled).
Small problem with that theory. There are shit tons of other payment processors operating through Taiwan with the exact same problem. Is bitfinex paying them to pretend?
Really? So this is not just Bitcoin or crypto related? Or do you mean that other crypto exchanges and payment processors in Taiwan have to deal with it as well?
Any links where someone could get some infos about that.
Would appreciate that.
OK coin. Com has the same problem as does btce 's payment processor and they're not crypto specific and btce has other options. Do some googling. There are plenty of articles about international Taiwan banking problems in non bit coin publications.
This isn't much to do with crypto and much more to do with Taiwan not keeping in line with banking regulations that the rest of world adheres to.
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Post 18895803 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
quoting Craig Wright is the last resort for anyone who wants to make a point. I have no interest in what he has to say.
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not resolved. still the same problems. i wonder how that will get resolved.
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Post 18937779 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
bfx is slowly getting swamped by other exchanges. check out korea and japan
by the time it goes maybe there won't be very many people paying attention.
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If anyone from the sec has been paying attention to dead china, screwed bfx, poloniex outages and insane price differentials something tells me they're gonna feel a little vindicated.
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Post 18941475 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
japan is the most cash heavy developed society. something like 85 per cent of transctions are cash.
it maybe means more future potential but there are other places more ready made.
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Post 18970235 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
Beginning to wonder how many coins might be "trapped" in China in the hands of people who can't access foreign banks and exchanges and whether that's messing up supply, driving up the price in the west.
Then there's Japanese demand.
and nothing out of bitfinex for several days about their banking plans. their reddit sub has now been set to private as well. coins are still coming and going fine but the lack of fiat certainly isn't helping the market distortion.
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Post 18974254 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
I pretty much agree with this. With the exeption of one threat... the entire Alt coin ecosystem could be undermined by Bitcoin sidechain Alt Coin sidechain implementations.
hell no. apart from a few crazies the only reason people care about alts is to make more btc. bitcoin could fulfil literally everything any alt that will ever exist could do and people would still feed the alt frenzy. it's never stopping no matter what.
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Post 18974449 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
It will stop when people who buy alts begin to realize that they are being taken. Most alts are simply penny stock PnDs, others are ICOs so basically people crowdfunding the dev salaries to work on something that will likely go nowhere or get absorbed into other projects. Not to mention the fact that most are fully pre-mined, POS, or both.
Most people including Satoshi and the original devs didn't even know if Bitcoin would even function and thrive at first. Bitcoin launched with the most genuine, most humble, and the least nefarious of intentions. There was no thought of anyone become wealthy or trying to dominate any kind of market. That's what makes it trust-able.
For everything that came after, can anyone really say the same? A: Nope.
those are noble sentiments but filthy greed overrides everything else. now that crypto is starting to take off we ain't seen nothing yet in terms of shamelessness.
if shit like onecoin can thrive then anything even slightly more legitimate will always excite people. if it's cheap and hyped enough they'll fall for the patter that it's the next bitcoin.
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Post 18979621 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
what wallet are you using? you can't take the private keys elsewhere to another wallet? my transactions have been as fast as usual recently.
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Post 18979734 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
what wallet are you using? you can't take the private keys elsewhere to another wallet? my transactions have been as fast as usual recently.
Long story.. MultiBit HD 0.4.1 It is a piece of shit! Many problems in this thread just for this crap:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=99.0I am waiting for the tx to be rejected or executed before I move the private keys to another wallet. I am afraid to touch it now.
yeah. it's been known to be a piece of shit for a long time. i think it was sold and not much has been done with it since. it should be removed from downloading.
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Post 18991787 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6asbqr/bitfinex_usd_withdrawals_update/one time withdrawals for usd in bitfinex on the horizon. still no update on regular functionality.
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Post 18996110 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
organic growth is pretty much limited to cryptolocker losers
localbitcoins does not lie. demand is up however you wanna look at it even if a bunch of it is down to alt fever.
that still doesn't mean we won't head back to 11/1200 with ease.
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Post 18996171 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
Okay that was a little bit trollish. But if you're up for a sensible debate, how would you explain that new demand over the last 90 days?
i don't hold much truck with exchange demand. it's such a pain in the ass to get on an exchange that i don't think it's a very good indicator of what real people are up to.
i think it was mainly fomo brought on by bitfinex upping the price. now at least they're doing a one time withdrawal of usd that particular pressure valve has been let off.
elsewhere it might be people still piling into alts. i'm pretty amazed how they've managed to sustain themselves.
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Post 19017945 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
far better to keep it to yourself. people get very very weird about money. better not infect those closest to you with more of it.
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Post 19031293 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
So my money finally arrived after some troubles with the bank this weekend, would you guys wait till EFT posts a definite answer (probably no)? IK will probably go up anyway afterwards but do you guys think there will be a (small) dip? Because I can also do some HODL with my euro's
surely a no is guaranteed. the market looks even more screwed than it was when they said no the last time.
maybe there are enough stupid traders to get a dip going if there was a no. it would be pathetic but possible but i would hope most people are clever enough to know what the answer already is.
anyway there's no decision today. all it is is the end of the comments period.
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The thing is, if one is majorly hedged in alts, you never loose.
They never fail to rally on the dips. Bear market ? Alts to the moon.
and people said bitcoin never dips below its previous all time high. then it did.
that's a very dangerous attitude. things are looking rosy right now. no one knows what the future holds.
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Post 19033361 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
At the 1st ETF btc fall 1350 to 850, 450$ lower.
So could we expect 1300$ this time ?
why? they've already said no. it was obvious why they said no. there are even more reasons to say no now.
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Post 19036679 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
do some reading folks.
https://www.scribd.com/document/346334662/34-80511#fullscreen&from_embedall that happens today is the end of the comment period.
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Post 19040971 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.09h):
Maybe ripple is great but I don't see how it's ended up being lumped in with any proper crypto.
Considering the pumpiness and the banking trope, which will probably have nothing to do with xrp, it could easily dwarf bitcoin. I for one won't care in the slightest.
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Post 19071153 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
All joking aside....
What's going on then? Ripple half of bitcoin marketcap and bitcoin dominance 46% and we are at $1800.
Shits gone crazy.
there never was a status quo. it's still being created every single day. who knows what the new normal is gonna be this time next year?
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I wasn't lucky enough to be around at 2013 and certainly if I saw 30% ups & downs I would freak out
don't count on those percentages not coming back some day. it's pretty steady right now but who knows what the market has planned for us?
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Post 19097190 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Even the most unknown altcoins are getting pumped, incredible...
I know there is a sucker born every minute but do they all think that all those coins are the same as Bitcoin? This will turn into a mega bloodbath.
the thing that people are forgetting is that alts are taking off in places like korea. i think that's where much of the ripple buying is taking place. all it takes is one new market to get excited and it blows all the current ones out of the water for a while.
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Post 19100576 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Hey, I've not been frequenting the forums as much as I used to. Can one of you explain why there's such vitriolic anti-ETH sentiment here? It seems to be more than just the usual competitive banter
because deep down it means less dollars for bitcoin holders, but most of them won't admit this out in the open.
it's also pissed all over the core principles of crypto but that's far less important.
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Post 19100929 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Poloniex is retarded, millions of dollars pump random shitcoins at complete random. And the thousands of traders just jump on at any given time or moment, with no rhyme or reason or logic.
Hence why Bytecoin, Stellar, Ripple etc etc have all jumped up in value to retarded levels.
I mean seriously, Bytecoin? Stellar? WTF?
One could have made a fortune on almost any coin just by investing in shitcoins 3 months ago on poloniex and holding for 3 months.
So did you?
If you had, maybe you would have cashed out on Polo, which - unless you want USDT - would have been by buying BTC.
All Polo alt prices are basically in BTC - it's the exchange with the biggest BTC turnover in the world. Maybe it's a positive factor where we are?
Just saying, it's not all bad news.
then you have to pull it out of poloniex. unless you got lucky then you're probably still stuck at $2000 a day because they're so slow to verify you. so if you have a true fortune it's gonna take you months to get out.
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Post 19101075 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
when this one will explode...
i truly hope that day never comes. but if i had a large value tied up in alts i would use another exchange, and if it wasn't on a better one i'd wait for it to be listed on there. i don't trust them.
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Post 19103891 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
same. all my friends for the last 5 years have believe that they had "missed the boat."
what a shame.
edit: whoa
go bullstamp
Same here too. I'm still telling them it's still cheap. They want to kill me hahahahahah.
i have no sympathy for any of them. they had their chance. they'll have other chances in the future when it's crazy high but the last 2/3 years were the second golden age of accumulation.
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Post 19104067 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Who has the balls here to bet on a $2000 double top and defend this position in this forum?
(Edit: Finex prices.)
(That doesn't mean $2000 cannot be passed in the future with better fundamental news. But perhaps it's too early and a sell-in-May scenario is more realistic.)
Very possible. The summer could be falling or dead. But that still leaves time for an epic winter
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So sell the news?
the most likely news is that a scaling solution has been agreed on by enough people.
do you really wanna sell that particular news? possibly the most important thing that's happened to bitcoin since it was created. good luck with that. this is the type of thing that sends stuff into the stratosphere.
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If i read correct Barry Silbert organized the meeting so SW+2MBHF seems to be most likely.
people are already moaning on that r/bitcoin thread and they don't even know what it is yet. if enough people are happy i'll take it.
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Post 19132255 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
If scaling gets addressed $5000 per bitcoin is not crazy.
these sentences don't sound too reassuring
++ "a hydrogen bomb is coming"
++ "I wasn't expecting this to be the result" (of the whole HF/Segwit saga).
++ An answer to the question "is there an agreement?" he replied "it's quite on sided hence the use of hydrogen bomb".
maybe bitcoin is merging with ethereum.
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Post 19132353 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Perhaps the miners have decided to stop trolling us and have gone long on bitcoin ...
if it's positive news and enough insiders know about it which it sounds like they do, wouldn't there be some price movements? same goes for terrible news too of course.
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We should see a price surge/pop if a SegWit compromise is confirmed and announced tomorrow (Monday) globally by the involved parties - that can make it happen at least.
There should be little pops of it now if this is in the bag. Almost every player in crypto is at that conference and must've heard something by now. It's a little strange. Anyway not long to find out hopefully.
Then again perhaps this is what is inspiring these super alt pump's today. It's free btc for whales making out while it lasts.
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If that agreement and its participants is true then they almost certainly can get the hashing power to do it. Gotta say I'm slightly shocked there ain't one exchange or developer on there but perhaps they're expected to come on board.
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that fee is currently far, far too low and it's been that way for quite a while. it sucks but that's how it is.
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Post 19172242 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
You can throw all your bitterness towards altcoins, but the truth is that whoever invested in alts (lets say any of the top10) 3months ago, has made much money than others just investing in BTC. And the fact is that we are here for the moneys, aren't we?
how is anyone getting these super gains out? you can't raise levels on poloniex. i've been waiting two months now to be upgraded. if i'd made hundreds of btc it would now take me over a year to get all them out of there.
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Post 19172519 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
and here's a revealing story, fidelity is actually mining bitcoin.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-23/fidelity-mining-bitcoin-abigail-johnson-saysthey've mined a heady 200,000 satoshis so it's probably the ceo's phone that's doing it.
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Post 19173552 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
This is why I believe Eth will not really crash, although I'm not big of fan of that coin. But they are backed by finance and big industry. It's the perfect controlled shitcoin.
the real money is in taking ethereum's code, closing it off, repackaging it and selling it on. i dunno how much interest they have in the open chain.
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Post 19173595 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
What do you mean? Using that code in a new currency?
check the wording of the ethereum enterprise alliance.
"Together, we will learn from and build upon the only smart contract supporting blockchain currently running in real-world production – Ethereum – to define enterprise-grade software capable of handling the most complex, highly demanding applications at the speed of business."
that says nothing about currency or using ethereum itself. they want it to make existing business more profitable.
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Post 19173928 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
When this bull run started to get meaningful, a few months back, i told myself i would sell all, if/when price reaches $2445........Hmmmm. Dont know now
there's always gonna be a higher price eventually. would that figure buy you everything you need? whatever happens i'd always keep 21 or 2.1 coins if i got rid of the rest.
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Post 19175239 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Kraken not accepting bitcoin deposits right now. Getting timeouts. My upcoming vacation is in peril
head to localbitcoins. imagine how desperate the traders must be for coins there. they'll bite your arm off.
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Post 19181442 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Forgot about GBTC. Those original investors are free to trade their locked Bitcoin now??
why would they want to? all that is tax free as long as they keep it in their 401k or whatever it's called.
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Post 19184751 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
it's a sea of red with the alts as well.
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Post 19190230 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Yup
And I feel like I've really opened my short too soon :/
The worst possible scenario would be huge rise to 3500$, making me liquiditing all my positions, then a sudden fallback to 2000$, making me losing all my benefits in capitalization xD
That would not be cool at all.
Just hoping for the dump to happen soon, the sooner the better. Don't want another panick day followed by a flat pathetic 2 years :/
Close your short and wait. All bubbles overshoot expectations.Did anyone see $1000 coming in 2013?
Google trends are now an all time high, people are willing to pay hundreds more than the market rate, exchanges are running out of coins and you want to bet against that?
Of course it's gonna collapse but it might not do so for weeks. There's never been this much attention and demand ever and it could carry on for much longer and higher.
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Post 19190651 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Wonder if Circle regret dropping out of the Bitcoin ecosystem?
they're still in it. they're one of the signers of barry silbert's thing and i think they do still use bitcoin in the background of their system, though they're probably looking for alternatives.
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Post 19192829 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
you know it .. the red phallus will be yuge
and how much do you think the average japanese or korean person is going to care about an exchange they've barely heard of? they might nod and then keep on buying. it's slowly sliding into absolute irrelevance.
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Post 19193015 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
@European Central Bank
Just noticed you crossing UK off your pic
someone harangued me for not carefully routing around ireland. i ain't got the space for that.
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Post 19195982 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
the huge correction is here... right?
where? it'll be huge when it's back down to $1200-1500. right now there might be far more appetite.
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Post 19196100 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
yeeh... it hasnt happened yet.
im more asking for gut feelings. For me, it may happen very shortly
But what do you think.. predict a "top" before a big correction movement.
my prediction: It has already topped
i don't have a clue and no one else does either. it's the middle of the night in japan. they're the ones having the most fun with this.
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Post 19196447 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Right now going down to 2420 is a fall of 12%
Right now not the freefall i vaguely remember at 2013
that took months and years. this is a few hours so far. let's give it a week and then we might get an idea of what it wants to do over the summer.
everyone's so edgy right now that they'll all get a surprise no matter what it does.
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Post 19197074 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Thoughts are it has to rebound. Just bought in with my entire investment budget. So far its up $3!
nobody should buy anything with their entire anything when it's this volatile.
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Post 19197167 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
...current price at Polo = $2150...
Is it just the beginning of big dump?
why are you quoting that place? it doesn't even use USD and it's barely working at the moment.
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Post 19197290 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
We do have USDT there... and not to mention, it is one of the most followed exchange spots. Even though the owner of Polo is pretty much cheater, creates fake trades, but still we have to accept whatever is going there.
usdt is broken and its price has wavered between 91c and well over a dollar. and you can't get real dollars in and out unless you're in taiwan maybe.
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Post 19197417 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
woa woa, wait. To be sure, there's no horrendous news that broke is there?
the horrendous news is that thousands of people paid too much for their coins and then realised it at pretty much the same time. buyers agreed with them.
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Post 19198678 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Arbitrage opportunity .. nothing more ,they lost the contact with reality
if you could arbitrage it successfully that price wouldn't exist.
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Post 19199098 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
so are we really gonna sell in may and go away? i'd be disappointed if the bitcoin market was that much of a cliche.
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Post 19199659 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
I feel sometimes like you are talking with an imaginary friend...
how did you know?
here's an interesting bit of information though i wasn't there to hear it -
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6d7bgl/daily_discussion_thursday_may_25_2017/di1i0xd/bitfinex might have a new route for USD.
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Post 19208558 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
"Diversification is key to any long term sucessful wealth"
Good thing he did`nt take this advise 5 years ago.
yeah. screw that. i'm staying put and waiting to see what happens. nothing else interests me in the slightest. if it all goes down in flames then i can live with that.
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Post 19217379 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Bitfinex and china wanna go down but stamp wanna go up, what's going on?
because bitstamp is the only market out of those that works properly? there are too many exchanges all doing their own thing to keep track of at the moment.
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Post 19218551 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Lubing up for a drop below $2000 over the weekend. I has a sad about Bitcorn lately
i really never see the logics of this forum...
1. yesterday i posted exactly 20 minutes before the dump, that it felt like the dump was gonna happen in matter of mins / hours.
2. i even asked for other peoples opinions about it
3. majority wanted to hung me for not following the "to the moon" thing
4. Dump happened (and the "denial" phase kicked in for most fanbois here)
Now:
second bottom hit, pretty near same levels, all signals indicate that most likely some rebound incoming with some price consolidation time... during the weekend. This looks like the most plausible scenario to me, by looking at charts.
Of course, everything can happen, it can go lower. But in the short term, and by that i mean -> "this weekend" and probably longer,
i see it stable and breaking upwards.So, if you are a noob and you are reading these, beware of all these "bitcoin going to 500$" and "these weekend will drop below 2000$". They arent the oracle, nor am i. demand for opinions with TA analysis behind also, not for crazy theories about asia demographics or for statements like "ive been here since 2010 and its always the same, it WILL go to 1600$ tomorrow so sell sell sell
jesus motherfuking crist, this place is like a southpark episode
why get uptight? why talk about it? trade it.
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Post 19218574 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Its just that people never fucking listen!! lol
let them burn. no one here listens to anyone anyway. they're all stuck in their positions and want some affirmation from strangers that'll probably never come.
and here's a cool stat -
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6deopl/daily_discussion_friday_may_26_2017/di3fto6/61% of the volume on japan's biggest exchange is down to three people. we have our new china but now it's even more obvious.
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Post 19223798 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
so are we really gonna sell in may and go away? i'd be disappointed if the bitcoin market was that much of a cliche.
damn, maybe it is.
and maybe there's gonna be an epic winter again too.
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Post 19232306 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
^^ You sound a lot like Alex Jones there R0ach. Any relation?
alex jones admitted that he hams it up to make more money. i think this guy means it which is way more disheartening.
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Post 19238288 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
i don't know why anyone here's currently trying to second guess things. with every exchange bursting with new users, the only thing you can be sure of is that the usual traders are not in the driving seat for now.
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Post 19242579 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
bitmain's exchange is launched -
https://www.viabtc.cn/i don't see how it's gonna work if you can't withdraw coins. is it just a one way portal for them to get cny and the buyers to get... i'm not totally sure. pboc fun tokens i guess.
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Post 19242755 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
But I disagree that this will affect BTC to the negative or in any way whatsoever. It's completely disconnected. If anything, they'll be trading back into BTC on the way down.
when it lives on most of the same markets there will unquestionably be a huge effect in the short term at least. bitcoin is only a click or two away from ethereum. i really don't know what that effect would be though.
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Post 19243844 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Hi guys,
Thinking of getting a Trezor. What are the pros and cons with them?
Only ever used paper wallets before.
Thanks.
you're dependent on the company servers for functionality, though of course you can restore the wallet elsewhere if the trezor seed is compatible with it.
you still have to store the seed securely.
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Post 19276574 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
ETH pairs on Chinese exchanges tomorrow and soon on Stamp coupled with the first ever 24h vol. exceeding the kings, I thought it was the best move. I'm not a trader, just hoping to get lucky. Anyway, I'll hold with these pieces in mind. Very curious to see if ETH breaks away from BTC pairing in the coming days.
i didn't realise all of that was happening at once. that's quite something.
it's time bitcoin people stopped getting uptight about it because it doesn't care about bitcoin. it's off to do its own thing and soon neither market will have much to do with each other.
if people didn't get in for moral onjections that's fine. morals in crypto ain't too thick on the ground and are absolutely nowhere when it comes to profit.
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Post 19277635 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Therefore can someone explain the increase in hashrate and what this means? Is it increasing security somehow or am I making this up?
What does it all mean?
I am a simple hodler.
I'm more of a PS4 guy than a PC guy if you get my drift.
a rise in hash rate means more machines coming online. the more machines there are the harder it would be to attack the blockchain by trying to out mine it. they'd need even more than before, which was already a mountain of them.
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Post 19277722 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
of course that doesn't stop someone who wants to screw with bitcoin going around to a few mines and burning them down. they must be quite hard to disguise these days.
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Post 19279108 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
https://www.okcoin.com/t-387.htmlokcoin lists eth/etc because it's getting dominant. and then tells bitcoin to sort its dominance out.
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Post 19280069 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
[...] For some of my bitcoins I recently purchased some crypto-steel and stored some bitcoins on those. I just moved from Afghanistan to Korea spending a few weeks in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and French Polynesia. By moving, that meant bringing my crypto-steel with me (not trusting it to some post office). So here I am traveling with these metal squares through various security. I spent about 15 minutes in Dubai trying to explain my crypto-steel to security (I had them wrapped in metalic tape to ensure nobody tampered with them). I finally had to unwrap one enough to show what was inside (I also had full chemical gear so that was part of the inquisition as well....long story). I ended up checking my bag in with the crypto-steel from there on out and was paranoid every minute that they were not in my possession. Every hotel I went to had to have a safe. I ended up in one hotel without a safe and I only left briefly to eat. I ended up using a bus instead of going on airplanes when I traveled due to the difficulty. Flying from Vietnam to French Polynesia I decided to keep the crypto-steel with me to avoid the worry I had before. I had to explain to a Vietnamese security guard what they were, I used pictures on my phone and was ok after 5 minutes (I was surprised when he said "oh, Bitcoin!").
[...]
Thanks for sharing your experience Elwar. Had a similar one explaining a few Casascius coins.
I am wondering though why you carry the cryptosteel around. Just remember a 12 word Electrum seed and you have no explaining to do crossing borders, and no worries of being robbed when away from 'home'. Still each time I punch in those 12 words from memory to cold sign a transaction, it feels like magic internet money. It makes me again experience how powerful and independent Bitcoin really is.
does cryptosteel disguise your seed in any way or is it written down raw? it seems kind of stupid to have something so unusual that will attract attention not adding some extra security.
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Post 19280123 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
As a spanish speaking guy I can tell you it doesn't sound like that. It sounds like "Monedero" which literal translation is wallet for storing coins.
I don't like it anyways.
it's esperanto i believe.
there are worse names out there. but anyone basing financial decisions on names is kinda weird in my opinion.
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Post 19281124 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
I fought for Bitcoin till now but i am tired now.
ETH does everything which bitcoin can't. It doesn't have malicious greedy piece of shits like Jihan BU and Roger ver in the first place. ETH don't have ASICs. Mining power is greatly distributed among people because people mine with GPU's.
No stupid scaling debates. The only thing keeps me moving from btc to eth is that i feel like it is too late now. I feel like shit. We will lose the market cap to ETH...
and do you not think it was intended to make you feel that way?
etheruem is currently in the told you so phase. there'll come a time when that pendulum swings back.
and whatever happens bitcoiners should let go of the idea of bitcoin being
it.
it's a big old world with more ideas and agendas than we can guess at.
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Post 19281280 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
cruising past 0.1 now. does it have the legs to go all the way to the top? that would be quite something and maybe not surprising.
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Post 19281346 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
define "top"
to top the marketcap of BTC seems highly likely at the moment
that's the one.
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Post 19281392 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
i thought this was bitcoin wall observer thread ... hmmmm...i musta hit the wrong ethereum button....
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Post 19282051 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Completely, and totally disagree. For the world to have a universally accepted form of money that crosses borders, it would need to ideally consolidate on one. The world will never universally accept 1000 different forms of payment (money) as all being equally valuable. If all special snowflakes are special, then none of them are universally special.
i think ethereum's creators themselves would be the first to say that it's not money.
what people are getting worked up about is the present pool of speculator and trader money being allocated to different things. this isn't a cryptocurrency bubble, it's now a crypto technology bubble.
if there's more profit to be made elsewhere then they're agnostic enough to look elsewhere. most people are only in this for the dollars. they don't care about the future beyond the next five minutes.
if bitcoin has what it takes then none of this matters in the short term. new generations will appreciate what it truly means. there's a lot of theology to untangle and we haven't even started yet.
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Post 19282082 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Then what do these traders think that they are buying, and what greater fool are they going to sell to in the future?
i don't think they know or care. they're buying a chunk of the future that might pay off. if they find a greater fool who values that chunk higher at the right price then they'll sell and run.
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Post 19282497 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
this one is the monster. and no proof of vitalik can get past that. they've all been way too casual about paying attention to securities regulations, somehow thinking it doesn't apply to them. it does, and it will.
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Post 19298620 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
The transaction fee depends of how much is transferred
Weird coin, ether is
it was desperation to be the first for an ico sale.
pretty soon they're gonna come down hard on this type of thing. it's not gonna operate with impunity forever.
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Post 19300915 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Is it an ICO for another ETH based token?
yeah. something called BAT. even ethereum forums are starting to get pissed off with how skewed it all is. the majority went to about four people because they paid those fees and shut the rest out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6efdc5/bat_ico_was_over_in_3_blocks/the madness is sure heating up. it can't carry on forever.
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Post 19300938 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Really? Someone paid thousands in fees just get first into an ICO? Crazy times.....
yep. the small fry were paying 100 euro fees and got nowhere. their wallets couldn't pay any more.
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Post 19309469 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
one day some time in the far future people will figure out that 'banks are adopting xxx' means that banks are adapting its software and rejecting any market involvement, mainly because they would be insane to do so.
i don't know why that day hasn't arrived as it's as obvious as the sun rising the next day, but it will.
and I'm also still not convinced most institutions will ever find a use for anything in the crypto space in their lifetime.
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Post 19315979 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
After 1st August jitters and UASF BIP 148 is behind us, Bitcoin will shoot up beyond $10,000 in October or November.
that is a very recent jitter. won't those price levels be far more likely if it forces a real scaling agreement before it activates?
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Post 19326634 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
I'm so torn.
i don't get why people are emotionally attached to bitcoin only. it ain't emotionally attached to you.
it's maybe a terrible time to do some alt betting but there's nothing wrong with shameless profiteering when the opportunity was there. of course almost all of them are worthless. others may not know that so there's money to be made.
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Post 19327133 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
I tried to see what people saw in ETH. I just couldn't. I still can't.
and 99% of the people who put money in can't either. they like the rising price, the fancy words, the leader who would have to be invented if he didn't already exist he's that perfect and the marketing pushes.
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Post 19327560 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Just remember: the slow turtle wins the race.
Work hard in life, remove or at least reduce all your debts, don't use credit for anything unless you absolutely have to, live simply. And sock everything else you make into Bitcoin and maybe some PMs (only like 5-10% max). But mostly Bitcoin. I guarantee that you'll retire wealthy.
your perfectly justifiable dislike of alts is also clouding the chance to make more money. sure they're almost all junk, and it may be too late for now, but they're here to stay.
and bitcoin is in no way safe as houses compared to most other things. it's better to risk throwing away some money in search of higher returns to diversify much earlier with much more just in case.
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Post 19327832 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
I'm a cynical old coot, but I tried. I cornered him once over a pint, I just couldn't get my head around it. I still don't see a single reasonable use-case.
here's what's best to keep in mind - there are no fundamentals, there probably won't be any use cases, there is a lot of greed and stupidity. the latter two are the golden ticket on a ride upwards as they're almost infinite resources. make sure you get off at the right time as they eventually turn into an express elevator to hell.
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Post 19328696 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Plenty of other marketplaces like his old site are still up and running. Not everyone
of the owners will spend their remaining years in jail
the first to do it is always the one who gets destroyed as a warning to everyone else. he pioneered the idea and planted the seed. everyone else from now on will get normal sentences.
and probably 90% of dark markets are operated out of the fbi office anyway.
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Post 19335008 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
If an ETH crash were to happen now, won't it drag BTC down with it? All the new people will be panic selling everything they have, just like a few weeks ago when the monero crash caused everything to crash including bitcoin. And monero is much smaller than ETH.
what monero crash and what effect? i can't say i was being kept awake at night because of it.
eth crashing having an effect on bitcoin all depends on whether they run to dollars, and there are now no shortage of direct dollar options for eth.
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Post 19335242 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
The main monero developer did a troll announcement which caused the price to dip 25% in a mater of minutes, and kept sinking for a few days. After that 25% dip though, one after the other altcoin started going in red, it was like a chain reaction. And then half an hour later Bitcoin started dumping.
monero's 24hr volume is $9.5 million. bitcoin $1.3 billion.
so that's a no from me at least.
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Post 19335903 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
If an exchange started asking me those police-interrogatory-kind questions, I'd send'em a picture of my middle finger raised and never send any more to them. Localbitcoins does the trick.
if ever do have to cash out a significant amount the last place i plan to do it is an exchange. i'm not interested in covering their ass with my personal information.
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Post 19347024 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
True. But more importantly, ETH has the mentality of being a master crypto.
it's a superb strategy, but they're gonna have to work an awful lot harder to convince me that they're the bedrock of countless future systems. they move too fast and they've already blown it with their roll back.
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Post 19357888 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
anyone who can't be bothered to spend thirty seconds googling deserves to have onecoin steal their money. it also has nothing to do with any real crypto market. existing laws will get them eventually.
as for the ico thing. dunno.
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Post 19359221 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
No one deserves to have their money stolen by anyone.
of course they don't. but what they're doing by being blinded by greed and not spending a few seconds trying to figure out whether it's a scam or not is voluntarily opening their wallet to anyone.
people with any sense would walk away. people without sense shouldn't be in charge of their own money. i feel bad for them but it's so obvious i don't feel sorry for them.
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Post 19388200 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
crypto as a whole in now nudging a 100 billion dollar market cap. total horseshit of course but still a nice number to excite people.
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Post 19388324 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Gold is breaking out of a 6 year down trendline. Both might moon together
ah, who here gives a shit? it might go up a couple of hundred dollars this year. wowzers. i'll look forward to buying an ounce for 0.1 btc. that's my minimum.
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Post 19388388 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
BOOM, $2800 bitcoin! Seems like there is less enthusiasm than 2013
.
Maybe because this is a steady climb, and each new ATH is just another notch in the belt.
yeah. it's a real interesting one. i've read the thread during 2013 and it was crazy. i guess there've been multiple all time highs in this run and then it settled back damn high still.
i think in general people are more confident because of the way it's developed and they expect more. i hope it's not misplaced.
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if i was in america or canada i wouldn't bother buying any land. both places are so empty outside the cities no one would ever find you anyway. 95% of canada has probably never been stepped on by a human.
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Post 19417730 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
wow everybody already discussing about homesteading , meanwhile im here still earning a little cent with bitcoin
, well a month ago i saw in internet about website about buying/selling land for bitcoin in swedia , might if you swedish you can do little research
the problem with most of these big ticket items for bitcoin is that they expect you pay through the nose, or get a shitty deal, just because it's bitcoin.
sell it yourself and suddenly you have million more options at a much better price.
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Post 19460632 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I shoud've just converted all my BTC to ETH...
easy to say in retrospect. and who knows what tomorrow brings? ethereum is storing up plenty of its own problems for the future. bitcoin might well be in the clear by then.
going all in during any pump doesn't make sense. the time to do it was in 2015 when everyone was at maximum indifference.
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Post 19460757 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I could use some of dat parabolic movement in BTC
bitcoin doesn't have the ico/dapp hype that's turning into a feedback loop. that was a genius move on their part for as long as it lasts, which won't be much longer.
throw away 5% of your stash on shitcoins and see what happens. all you need is one to go places but kiss it goodbye before it goes just in case.
and didn't you put alot into xmr? aren't you up on that?
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Post 19460902 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Another very good moment was when it started pumping from $7 until now.
that's the thing.
everyone's crying about missing these returns. maybe 0.1% of the people involved in these markets are in at the right moment and sell at the peak and have enough of them to make any difference to their lives.
everyone else is getting scalped, selling too early, selling at a loss or making 10-20% here and there.
from the outside looking in occasionally it all looks so easy. it ain't.
it's exactly the same as people wishing they'd bought bitcoin in 2010. you'd be long gone by now and you would've blown it along the way.
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Post 19478615 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Shorting ETH/BTC is probably a very good idea right now.
says everyone since around 2015. reason has left the building, or arrived. it's extremely hard to figure out which.
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Post 19478932 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
By the tone of your posts; "Nothing can stop ETH now, it's proven itself. It's gonna keep going up forever", I'd say it's definitely near a top.
i've thought it wasn't humanly possible to get any higher just about every minute of every day for the last few months. nothing's changed for me.
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Post 19484629 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
they lost $14 million of ethereum recently so maybe he's watching to see whether it'll implode. they say they're doing fine. how many places have 14 million going spare?
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Post 19484748 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Please cite names. I'd love to know who you're talking about.
it's probably gonna curse us to say his name. the guy was relentless.
but here it is - jorge stolfi.
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Post 19485055 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I really can't understand someone wasting so many time in something he is not invested in. If instead he would have invested when he decided to start his campaign against Bitcoin he would be somewhat rich now and could just go living its life. But no, he chose to keep living a frustrated life for no reason.
I have heard that about 5% of the population has some degree of mental issues.... But I don't think there's one out of 20 with his rating. No way.
he must've been writing several thousand words a day at his peak and didn't take on board a single one from anyone else. it's incredible the amount of time he devotes to something he hates that he'll never stop anyway.
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Post 19496165 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
i'm looking forward to the gif bitcoinity has in store for us when it's $3000 on bitstamp. better be an epic one.
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Post 19497035 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Im holding 0 ETH for the record, but if the ICO madness continues, everyone buying needs to buy some ETH.
nah. never. i hope everyone involved gets rich and has a happy ending. i don't understand it well enough and i don't think anybody other than vitalik does either, and maybe he's doing so much blow these days he's forgotten too.
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Post 19498737 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I think he squared it with himself with reference to our 'technical limitations'.
in that aspect he's totally right. ethereum is a completely different thing and bitcoin can't do much of what it can do. that's the whole point i guess.
there'll be a better ethereum coming along some day and this same conversation will take place on another forum somewhere while bitcoin still trucks along.
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Post 19509243 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
all impressive stuff, but how are people gonna get to all these riches when they're all locked up in poloniex? i've been waiting three months to get my limit over $2000. still nothing happening.
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Post 19509395 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
while btc is struggling on ethics to stay decentralized, eth has no shame going full data centers
seems to work lol
deep down this is what most people want, even though you're not supposed to admit it. they want one guy to tell them what to do and what problems are being solved.
this entire alt bubble was sparked by the etf denial. i wonder where things would be had it passed.
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Post 19510327 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Let's see how long the Bitcoin is a store of value argument lasts once Bitcoin is no longer the largest coin by market cap. You had your chance to scale , four years and counting since it became an issue, still no solution and no evolution ---> extinction.
something can be a higher market cap yet have no characteristics of a store of value. store of value was always something of a myth though. it would take many years before it was a fact.
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Post 19513427 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
gotta love some of the comments below it. they're starting to read like onecoin fans.
all of what he wrote rings true to me, but that doesn't mean this craziness doesn't have some serious legs still.
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Post 19564435 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
ever notice it often coincides with a certain miner coming out with his cool new plans? you'd think he'd get the message somehow.
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Post 19564768 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I don't know how accurate this story is, but if China's Sichuan Province really is banning Bitcoin mining maybe that's another factor in the dip. It's a new twist, China "bans" Bitcoin mining instead of China "bans" Bitcoin.
that's good news isn't it? chinese influence on bitcoin has been almost nothing but total poison, from the exchanges to the centralization of mining. the sooner they're gone the better.
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Post 19564905 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
is this BitcoinCore/USD and BitcoinUnlimited/USD on Bitfinex.com?
it's been there for months.
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Post 19565025 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Can someone please explain the difference, and the backstory?
a few months ago it looked like bitcoin unlimited, which is now being mined as emergent consensus in block signalling, looked like it had ever rising hash rate and people thought bitcoin might fork.
bitfinex introduced a futures market to trade tokens between the two ideas to see what demand would be like. it didn't go very well for unlimited and their fork proposal faded away as most players rejected the idea.
now the same people are back with another one.
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Post 19572809 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
so they want even more civil asset forfeiture even though that type of shit would be frowned upon in many a third world country? man, america really should give up claiming to be number one. they're a bunch of gangsters.
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Post 19574590 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
How up to date is this thing?
i assume it creamed silver quite some time ago. it has a little more work to get on top of the rest of them.
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Post 19575340 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I hope Jihan Wu and Roger Ver die from some painful disease without a cure.
they're working for their own greed just like everyone else. it's down to the rest of the bitcoin world to realign their greed to suit everyone else again.
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Post 19579946 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
the eth jitters are 100% inevitable. it's ridiculous that any idiot would believe '(changeable) code is law' would be agreed with by the actual law.
as for the chinese shit, i hope we're about to come to a head no matter what the outcome.
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Post 19581975 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
This news is irrelevant as merchants don't keep any BTC and simply contribute to the volatility.
Yes. Shortsighted people said the same about Travelocity accepting Bitcoin. That was several dozen billions of dollars of market cap ago.
what little merchant action there is is either neutral or positive. bitpay have said most of their coins go straight to otc buyers so they're probably leaving the open market forever.
i dunno what japan plans to do, but no one there is gonna spend it anyway.
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Post 19582164 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
You really have no idea what's happening. Do you.
if he looks at his gains, he probably has a good enough idea. not everyone is hammering f5 on reddit for all they're worth.
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Post 19583486 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
i really don't believe central bankers are sitting at their desks hammering sells on btc-e. we'll know if they really arrive to screw the markets and it'll make anything we've seen before pale in comparison. it'll be apocalyptic. that's if they'd allow markets to survive anyway. all they have to do is threaten a few banks and it's back to p2p forever.
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Post 19587137 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
TL;DR - Bitmaincoin may just end up becoming another shitcoin in China. Perhaps even adopted by the PBOC as China's official crypto. Maybe they've already been in private discussions about that, who knows.
if such a thing ever happened i'm not sure i'd even call it a chain split. bitmaincoin would be an offshoot. and an immediately shunned one too.
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Post 19605862 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
Guys, just a PSA, please quit worshipping or glorifying Vinny Lingham just because he is on some stupid TV show. The guy is a complete idiot hack who knows absolutely nothing about Bitcoin protocol design but keeps pretending like he does. Kinda like Roger Ver. And his calls on bitcoin price movement have been way off too, so he's not even a decent oracle.
https://twitter.com/VinnyLingham/status/844658734991257600he sold everything because of the previous threatened unlimited fork. i think he's a little bit adrift these days. he probably sits on park benches tweeting to himself.
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Post 19606602 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
While I'm looking forward to seeing what a lightning network looks like, it may not be the miracle everyone's hoping for.
They've restricted the amounts you can send to 0.042 and you're still tied to on chain transactions at either end.
Just the beginning of course so there'll be way more to come but theres alot to hammer out.
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Post 19618676 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I disagree, I see litecoin as what btc should have been: no b/s, no political bickering, spam problem solved logically and simply years ago, possibly more decentralized in mining and ownership than btc, always been in the top 10 by traded volume. What is not to like? I'm just sorry that I did not accumulate more when it was cheaper, because my target price is 1/4 of BTC price (because of its final total of 84 million LTC).
and litecoin had that luxury to get its house in order because bitcoin was constantly taking the beating of its life. just like everything else that is not bitcoin.
if the situations were reversed we'd be saying the same thing about bitcoin being the contender.
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Post 19618777 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
this LTC pump is massive. I wonder who is behind it
a whale exit pump? in a few weeks it's possible litecoin is gonna lose its usp and it's back to business as usual.
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Post 19619178 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
I wouldn't call ETH a shitcoin.
i would. but that don't mean you can't make an insane amount of money out of shit because clearly you can. there's far more money to be made with corrupted projects than honest ones.
i would love to have been in on it purely because i would've dumped and walked away without a second thought. i can't say the same about other coins, shit or not.
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one guy changing his job pulls in millions of extra pump? sheesh. it don't take much these days.
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Post 19622461 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
AFAIK he's the creator of Litecoin, isn't he? If it's true it really matters. Imagine Satoshi coming back to defeat Jihan-Ver evil empire?
well yeah but the news is several days old and we already know what their development road map looks like anyway.
it's positive. not earth shattering.
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Post 19635656 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
so quoting a dash website article that quotes that sirer guy who's been spouting junk for months?
got a more convincing source?
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Post 19640289 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
The finance industry and others are moving to a blockchain, it has not yet been adopted in full or implemented.
my personal suspicion is that the finance industry will never find a use for a public blockchain. i've heard of people who've attended some of these professional conferences coming back with the impression that very few of the attendees knew anything about it and were there to look cool.
but that's ok because real people will force them to deal with it whether they like it or not.
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Post 19640444 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):
All I hear about the blockchain in mainstream business is well apart from any coin standard.
it'll probably be another r3 writ even larger. they'll burn a few hundred million more and then someone'll invent the database again.
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Post 19746918 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
ok, maintenance. i have my main stake at polo, earning my living (by lending), i know, bad choice, but still, it earns my living, for now, and i can´t lose anything. Guys do it.
Guys do it, do it, You can pull off your bitcoin anytime, just don´t miss it.
And no, i don´t work for Polo
are you completely nuts?
i've been waiting months and months for poloniex to respond to a ticket. there's absolutely no way i'd trust them with any money above the pocket money level.
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Post 19750352 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
one day the masses will be as interested in an old school bitcoiner's opinion as they are about an atari fan talking about gta v.
things move on and it might be unwise to attribute previous behavior to current behavior. human nature stays fundamentally the same but the number of humans and their options and beliefs changes things with every cycle.
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Post 19751076 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
You must be doing something wrong. I have deposited and withdrawn thousands and thousands.
Of course, not more than i could afford to lose . . .
then you're a lucky man. many other people have not been lucky.
i think lost what little faith i had in them when they referred to all the shit they trade as blockchain tokens.
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Post 19756165 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
i think invest in bitcoin is much more safe and profitable because bitcoin price rising to higher value and we do not face to any risk when we invest our money in bitcoin and i if we invest our money in bitcoin we will be get a good profit from bitcoin in the future so i think bitcoin is much more profitable currency than altcoins.
have you just been hacked? that reads like every second post by cut and paste google translate noobs.
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Post 19756323 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Leave him alone. Everybody has the right to say stupid things. Period. And he´s not that far off.
So, fck off !
you must be the hacker i guess.
you should give him his account back. he must be very feeling very sad right now.
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Post 19766373 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
You never know. ETH went through a flash crash. There's always the chance that real Satoshi (if it is indeed one person and not a foundation) dies and the estate will have to liquidate to pay the estate taxes. (If Satoshi is a citizen of one of the countries that imposes such ridiculous taxes. US citizen would be bad. Japanese citizen would be even worse.) People forget that we have Satoshi's massive holdings hanging over our heads. Maybe Satoshi would never destroy his creation, but do you really think a government is going to care if they crash the market or not when demanding their estate taxes?
somehow i don't think satoshi would be the type to carefully prepare his death taxes for that special moment by leaving his private keys with his rural attorney to auction.
and until someone can comprehensively prove he has those million coins and full control over every single one i'm not going to lose any sleep at night.
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Post 19767275 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
And we didn't really return to a strong bull market until after those pesky auctions were out of the way? Correct?
not really.
the first one had some short term panic preyed upon by all the usual asshole fudsters.
after that everyone realised there was no effect because professional financiers weren't gonna spend millions to dump on yobit.
whoda thunk it?
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Post 19772348 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
a final scare before a segwit pump is my guess, but that pump might not arrive for a few weeks. in the meantime there's gonna be some action for the scaredy cats.
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Post 19784676 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Keep an eye on the total crypto market cap.
If we break below the $97B cap and stay there for a while, the total crypto market downtrend will be confirmed.
At that point I think alts will start trading back into btc on every btc dip.
We hit $96B. Stay frosty my friends.
they'll be going straight for dollars. altcoin pumpers don't care about bitcoin. if they get dollars through bitcoin then that's a negative and it's probably the main route.
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Post 19806434 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
heads up shitcoin fans - free stellar for bitcoin holders here -
https://www.stellar.org/lumens/bitcoin-lumen-program/if you're feeling a little down then claim this, dump it and buy yourself something nice.
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Post 19807487 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
am too lazy to even bother
if you link 10 btc you get more than 0.1 bitcoin at the moment. that's a pretty good payday for a few minutes of clicking.
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Post 19807605 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
i wanted to test it, but they want to link with facebook. [wtf is facebook,i never use it]
so no free bitcoins for me again. Will need to make some by trading
i did it with a totally empty facebook account with one fake name and a photo of a sheep. the only reason they want it is to prove you're not in north korea or iran so create a nice american one instead.
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Post 19808740 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
How would I get my free shit coins?
Get an old laptop. Wipe the hell out of it and install a Linux version or Windows if you're not a fan. Install Electrum. Disconnect from the internet. Import your paper wallet private keys into Electrum. Sign the addresses. Make a note of the signatures. Feed them into Byteball or whatever with another machine. Wipe the laptop to hell again before it gets to the internet.
You'll probably go insane typing the keys out correctly but that's probably the most efficient way to do it.
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Post 19809771 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Ok thanks guys. I may be making a big mistake but I think as I am too worried about moving them about (which I have actually done in the past) I will not bother. I will keep the paper wallets safe and secure and just stay how I am. Some may say I am crazy but some wallets hold more than others and if anything should happen I would be more than upset/ pissed off. I'd probably go on some sort of rampage.
Maybe I'll just keep doing what I am doing and miss the boat this time.
Thanks for the advice but I am not as technical as most here. (More than the average person but not more than some regulars here)
make an empty paper wallet and experiment by signing addresses on that offline. it's really not difficult. as long as you start off doing it right there is no risk. i think it's worth a try myself.
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Post 19817575 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
as with everything else that's rolled out to scare us, if it was that easy why isn't it happening already?
if someone takes the time to write about it that should mean someone else somewhere would've already done it and succeeded without telling anyone.
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Post 19817760 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Am ashamed to say I am also a Brit and in the same boat - made loads of paper wallets way back (for different amounts) and it took me all day, so it looks a load of hassle.
But, if I use an old computer which is not on or ever likely to be on the net, get BTC QT onto it, then please (ELI5):
I import key from paper wallet to QT wallet, make signature, save signature, then DELETE that QT wallet (and repeat process for each BTC paper wallet address)?
If you are able to help may I PM you to verify this process (and save my embarrassment). I am not a techie either, just a long term Bitcoiner who is a mac user and runs a mile even from simple CLI stuff.
yes. that's all you need to do. it's the typing the keys in that'll drive you crazy though. do it one character at a time as 9 times out of 10 you'll get one wrong.
feed your addresses into the byteball wallet first on a live computer as it's an individual message per address. note them down and then sign the message for each address with the offline machine.
cut and paste all of the signed messages into a txt file and then take them off the computer and put them onto a live one where you can paste into the byteball wallet. obviously note the message that matches the address.
you'd be better off nuking the computer's hard disk afterwards and then reinstalling the operating system just to be absolutely sure.
you can also do it with this -
https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.io/archive/f7679dd03f39a04edced641960a7c3df1116fea9.zip which is what i used. it has a sign message section.
you won't need to delete the wallet every time you sign. you can import all the keys and sign each address after selecting it.
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Post 19818203 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
I don´t get the point why people are posting on BitCointalk, when they don´t believe in BitCoin at all. I would just leave, say good bye to BitCoin and spend my time with things i believe in / like.
It´s like beeing Burger King lover, but instead of buying a whooper you waste your time talking to people at McDonalds what kind of trash the McDonalds food is.... Why don´t just grab a whooper and enjoy life?
simple. people like this who take a certain position want everyone else to take the same position to justify it in their own mind.
they'll waste years and billions of calories of effort despite no one else being slightly interested in the internal struggles of some random asshole.
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Post 19818624 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
If you have a scanner you wouldn't even need to type the keys in manually as you could connect the scanner to your offline pc and then cut and paste all the keys from the scanned wallets.
PM me if you need any further assistance
OCR doesn't work very well at the best of times. it would probably be even worse with something as complex as private keys. you may as well do it the right way and the hard way.
Thanks - really appreciate the help!
I am all mac, so the brainwallet app won't work for me, but I reckon using a BTC wallet will do. I see a long day ahead! But even the stellar drop will more than cover my time.
oh yeah, i case i didn't point it out clearly enough, the byteball wallet gives you a message after you put in your bitcoin address. that message is what you feed into the bitcoin wallet with your private keys which gives you a new message back to validate with the byteball wallet.
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Post 20172601 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Most of the nodes are still Core. The west doesn't seem to have the same interest in bigger blocks. How the hellfire are the Chinese supposed to evade capital controls with a Bitcoin nobody wants to buy?
Edit: but they must want it for a reason so I must be missing something. I always do.
they want to control bitcoin - the mining and the development. that's all anyone needs to know.
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Post 20201360 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Are we gonna get some of that sweet moderation? I'm bored of abusive know it alls.
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Post 20286488 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
What would continue to drive the market up higher from here? Serious question.
the pent up innovations? the people holding fire until bitcoin could prove it was ready for the future? maybe nothing much is gonna happen in the short term and we've had our fun for now, but mid/long term a pressure valve has been released.
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Post 20287379 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
What specifically will be so earth shattering for Bitcoin within the next 6 months that price will rise from here to "insane levels"?
insane within 6 months?
nothing.
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Post 20287533 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Exactly.
Hence my short term bearish attitude.
is returning to 1800-2200 even considered bearish? this has been a crazy blip more than anything.
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Post 20288145 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
it's pretty simple really. they should've done more to actually benefit more people. and now they're worrying about people not taking any more of their shit they plan... more of their shit.
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Post 20289176 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
'tulip mania' and 'beanie babies' in the one same article.
fail.
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Post 20289661 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Now ETH ICOs on the other hand... that's the Dot Com or South Seas bubble mania all over again.
yep. that's kind of impossible to deny.
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Post 20310549 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Gold pumped from $400 to $1900, now down to $1255
Silver pumped from $16 to $50, now down to $16.50
Metals a reliable store of value, you say?
it's been 37 years since gold's all time high when you take inflation into account, which i'm told is one of the points of gold.
that's not good enough.
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Post 20327425 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.
wrong. a chain split has been averted. an alt is being created.
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Post 20330763 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Chinese mining cartel can dump BTC proper into oblivion. Let's face it. We're all going to die.
there's a whole world out there with dollars, euros and more. they can only sell once.
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Post 20332575 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?
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Post 20347748 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
Average Joe on the street:
"I don't believe physical money with intrinsic value (silver, gold coins) will ever come back. If WW3 happens then what will be back is barter. In a post-apocalyptic world, silver and gold matter much less than clean water or better a way to make it, food, guns and bullets, etc."Other person:
"So you don't own any gold or silver?"Average Joe:
"Nope."Other person:
"So I'm assuming that by your previous statement then that you've at least stocked up on clean water, food, guns, and bullets in case WW3 did happen?"Average Joe:
"Well, no, not really. I live in a one bedroom house in the city."Lol, irony.
silver and gold would have value for a 5-10 day period when people believed it was just a blip. if it ain't a blip then they are pieces of metal that take up space in your pocket and nothing else. maybe they'd be worth something a couple of generations down the line if the world was ever rebuilt.
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Post 20354454 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
http://bithumb.cafe/archives/9288bitcoin cash going on bithumb. one of those zero fee wonders in korea.
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Post 20359540 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/bitcoin-options-to-become-available-in-fall-after-cftc-approvalso what does this mean for bitcoin? is it good? bad? a disaster? are we gonna be drowned in volatility and paper bitcoin?
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Post 20382742 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2017-131the news you alt, mainly ethereum, haters have been waiting for. this was so obvious it was in the pipeline. they really should've self regulated.
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Post 20382813 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
they're saying it's not retrospective so i guess the most outrageous ones will be ok. it should dampen future exuberance though.
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Post 20401948 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Is anyone surprised that an anonymous site run by russians wasn't a hive of money laundering?
I don't get the gox coins bear market though. If they were only on there itvwouldnt have had much effect. I guess they were rinsed and sold elsewhere.
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Post 20403637 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
If the rumors are true that BTCe hacked Mt. Gox, then 500k BTC hitting the market is probably not going to make the price go up much anytime soon. I do welcome cheap coins, though.
everyone here probably has a little of those coins in their wallets. it's not as if the guy was gonna sit on it forever.
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Post 20404241 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Laws of maths are stronger than laws of men. Good luck cracking the XMR cryptography. Also, the whole Dash is a joke so cheesy that I won´t even try to discuss it
people are more scared of human laws than mathematical ones.
the only option going forward will be p2p.
if government wants to get heavy on truly anonymous coins all exchanges are gonna cave. they'll stop trading it.
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Post 20404354 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Paradoxically, TPTB needs fungibility too and that´s the very reason of existence of the offshores. Do you think the rothchilds are going to have his money visible at the eyes of all?
i expect if people of that level do get involved it'll be on a custodial basis and there'll never be any way of linking them to any type of crypto.
stuff like buying into the mythical xapo laptop locked in a vault is how they'll do it.
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Post 20418116 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
The sad thing is that it might be easier for me to get my namecoins from BTC-e from the government than it is getting past their verification process due to a frozen account. After sending a copy of my passport and 3 months of bank statements they rejected it saying they needed a notarized ID scan from a third party, 3 months of proof of salary, utility bill, bank statements (all notarized) etc.
In other words, they want to keep all of my coins and no amount of verification will suffice.
i've always believed they scam a few users per month. as long as everyone else is happy enough then no one else is gonna believe them.
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Post 20420554 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Guys may i ask something..
Are my bitcoins save at kraken?
Ore better to send hardware wallet?
I need to know...
you don't have any coins at kraken. you have an iou from them to you.
act accordingly.
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Post 20420997 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
What do you mean?
And my question was about the hard fork?
I do day trading sometimes
you don't know what it means to have coins on an exchange?
it's exactly the same as a bank. when you deposit in a bank you no longer have any money, you have credit with them. there's a possibility you won't get any money back, albeit an extremely remote one.
all your coins are on kraken are an entry on a database that they control.
as for the fort, the simplest option is to withdraw to a paper wallet. send the bitcoins elsewhere after the fork and then use the private keys for bitcoin cash.
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Post 20424717 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
average joe will not drive the price up until many more years have passed. no one cares what average joe thinks for now.
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Post 20425394 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Correct.
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Post 20426185 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
I keep wondering the same thing.. When are they gonna come and buy some?? Because when they do everything will go apesh!t.. with blood and paper money flying on the walls. The exchanges will go absolutely bonkers!
Vertical will be the way! Trying to flush out coins from all corners of the world with a higher, higher and higher price for each coin from those that hodl so they can regain control of the manipulation.
big money does not get big by going on an exchange and buying everything with two hands.
it buys otc, but only after crashing the market to the best of its ability.
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Post 20443002 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Most people buying bitcoins nowadays know absolutely nothing about whether it does or doesn't have some type of fundamentals ...
This is the bitcoin market:
You are the worst kind of idiot roach because you know enough to be a danger to yourself and everyone around you but clueless to the limits of your knowledge, unwilling to acknowledge any such limits and brimming with self-conviction in your tiny bubble of wisdom, surrounded by a universe of ignorance that you are in complete denial of.
You've totally over-thought this and somehow managed to be smack in the epicenter of intelligence for the biggest bull market humanity has ever known ... and conclusively missed it through your own arrogance. You will go down in history as one of the biggest losers ever, in all sense of the word ... right up there with jstolfi.
Buy bitcoins, it really is that simple, even for a fucking dimwitted drooling retard like you.
When bitcoin supporters are like you, you know something is wrong. You have no well thought-out reasoning about why bitcoin will "go to the moon", that's just what you want to believe, and you phase out anything that's going contrary.
There are many more uncertainties about the bitcoin you hold than you realize. Much more risk about going all in in bitcoin than you realize. Some people will get burnt hard over the next few years.
as he joined here six years before you it's safe to say he knows a little more than you and more than likely has already gone to the moon.
and you're saying this roach guy is well reasoned? are you sure about that? he looks like another repetitive moron who has no interest in listening to others just as you claimed.
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Post 20443119 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
As the price of BCC is now priced into the current price of BTC
Pre Fork BTC = Post Fork BTC + Post Fork BCC
So the real price of BTC is currently 0.885 * $2741 = $2425
(obviously the price of BCC is not real yet)
let's wait for an open and operating market before deciding that.
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Post 20453414 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
that's because it's not a real market on a rigged exchange controlled by the people proposing it that no one trusts.
that price is just tad untrustworthy.
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Post 20472504 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Before bitcoin cash the centralisers had signaling and noise to scare us.
Now they'll have an actual chain and one that all existing bitcoiners have a stake in.
You think they're gonna let it die? There'll be years of games where they attempt to take market share and crow about usurping btc. You can also bet they're gonna spam the segwt chain to drive fees up again while their wonder chain is cheap.
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Post 20475703 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
he also all guaranteed us that segwit would stay only on litecoin and bitcoin would never ever be permitted to scale in any way whatsoever. now it's doing it 'twice'.
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Post 20513975 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
What miner in their right mind will mine BCC peanuts for 3 months?
there's a mountain of obsolete mining machines out there. i dunno what they're up to these days but they're looking for work.
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Post 20518624 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
yep. it's afternoon, not night.
and then someone has to find a block but i guess jihan has a big red button for that.
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Post 20542296 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
until there's a block and the ability to move it all these prices are futures still, and supply is extremely limited.
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Post 20545203 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Bittrex is on fire with 0.14 BCC/BTC.
I get error generating BCC deposit address.
they're not allowing deposits yet hence it ain't much of an impression of a real market.
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Post 20545615 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Is there any exchange that is already allowing BCH deposits? ViaBTC maybe? If it is BCH what I sent to them I don't really care about their "trustworthiness" as much as if I were seding BTC to split.
Have you already split your BTC on ledger nano?
yep. viabtc.
i put my coins on a paper wallet for the fork and then sent them back to the nano. i might live to regret that if all the bcash wallets turn out to be crap.
Fuck my Electroncash wallet is showing my balance from the time after I transferred all my BTC, so 0 BCC, even though I transferred all my BTC from my private key an hour ago (in block 478601 - 478603). It should list the balance I had at the time of the fork.
I guess I have some time to fix that, as no exchange is accepting BCC deposits yet.
Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
are you connecting it to a bcash server? you might have to manually do that.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059091.0
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Post 20546792 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
so what do people make of this?
{
"height" : 478559,
"hash" : "000000000000000000651ef99cb9fcbe0dadde1d424bd9f15ff20136191a5eec",
},
{
"height" : 478559,
"hash" : "00000000000000000019f112ec0a9982926f1258cdcc558dd7c3b7e5dc7fa148",
},
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/block/000000000000000000651ef99cb9fcbe0dadde1d424bd9f15ff20136191a5eechttps://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/block/478559
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Post 20547635 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):
Has anyone succesfully imported their private key of their now empty BTC wallets into a BCC wallet? I'm stuck with 'not verified' transactions in Electron Cash. Desperately trying to dump this shit for some real BTC here (via ViaBTC if I must).
yes. use coinomi instead. you can sweep into it from your private key. it worked great for me. a little is on its way to viabtc now which i fully expect not to get back. that's if coinomi works sending out of course which i'm not sure about yet.
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Post 20549332 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
ATH Exploded on bittrex...
anyone who thinks this won't be added to every single exchange is nuts. the fees earned will be incredible.
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Post 20550079 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
For miners it's a no brainer now to mine bch.
why?
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Post 20550177 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
So at the first sustained spam attack this thing will just up to 16MB. No harm no foul. Easy peasy.
who's gonna spam it? all the current spammers will be mining it.
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Post 20550618 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?
I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?
On which exchange you deposited?
The exchange is irrelevant. Fact is that I'm watching the blockchain and the client and it's taking over one hour to create another block. If the exchange demands 6 confirmations it will take 6 hours!
There is no exchange accepting BTC Cash Deposits at this time.
I deposited fine on viabtc, but I gotta wait 6 confirmation's before pulling btc out.
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Post 20558622 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Thanks for sharing that. Very useful.
So, in a line... You can sell BCC at ViaBTC but you can't withdraw your bitcoins!
they want 6 or 20 bch confirmations before you can pull anything you've traded it for off. i'm not sure which figure. seems fair enough to me.
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Post 20559053 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Hmm very twisted logic. If BCH confirmations are the problem then BCH deposits should be limited not bitcoin withdraws. Limiting bitcoin withdrawals means this exchange is running fractional reserve on bitcoin! It is very dangerous to keep your bitcoins there!
they won't get the juicy fees for days.
i have 0.02 btc 'tied up' on there. i'm not totally convinced i'll get them but life will go on.
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Post 20565344 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Are hitbtc reliable? Their UX does not inspire much confidence! How about ViaBTC? Anyone has any experience with them?
i haven't heard great things about hitbtc. viabtc have been around for long enough.
i sent some to viabtc with the expectation of not getting anything back. i'd do the same for hitbtc.
anyway maybe there'll never be another block in which case there's nothing to worry about.
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Post 20565518 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Thank you!
Do you know if viaBTC need a completely verified account for withdrawals? If they have been around for sometime, i guess its the safest best, especially with bittrex acting all shady (wonder where that volume is coming from, i doubt that anyone would have left so much coin on their exchange wallets).
only for cny. they haven't asked anything for a small bitcoin withdrawal.
that's if it's ever possible to withdraw. they want 20 bch confirmation before they'll let anything you've bought off the platform.
i've heard hitbtc only want two. that's not very reassuring or sensible.
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Post 20565638 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
Haha, i am unable to get the 5 required by hitbtc (probably new policy) . How on earth will we get 20 confirms, unless you know a BCC miner personally, even in that situation if the blocks are not being mined properly, it could be days before my BCC / BCH hits them!
according to this the main mining power for bch has already left the building with no intention of returning.
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Post 20573204 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
The most important thing is Bitcoin's price is nicely stable. I expected massive volatility with all the fork panic, but it's been fairly flat for the last five days.
According to core a hardfork was very risky
there hasn't been a hard fork in case you hadn't noticed.
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Post 20589211 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
please excuse my probably stupid question:
do btc need to be moved in order to claim bcash? is there a deadline until this needs to be done or can one claim bcash let´s say in 2 years? 5 years?
nope but to move the bcash you have to expose your private keys. that would be a very stupid thing to do with an unknown wallet. anyone redeeming them should move their btc out before doing so.
assuming your btc was in the wallet on the fork date, the bcash will always be linked to those private keys.
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Post 20697323 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
The question is what happens if mining becomes more profitable there for a while, and then back, and so forth, and the consequences.
its developers are gonna do everything possible to make it more attractive to mine on.
bcash's emergency difficulty adjustment thing is really gonna mess with some stats. bitcoin doesn't have it.
https://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/btc-is-dead-long-live-btc.htmlthe above is a crappy article but it does have a few points.
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Post 20700147 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
No Emergency Difficulty Adjustment is a weakness in BTC, if BCash's difficulty can adjust to make it more profitable and miners leave BTC for it, it's big trouble.
I cashed a few BCH in, I think I might hold the rest for now - just in case...
yep. that was my point.
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Post 20995857 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
In France the taxman doesn't care about tokens. Only when converted into fiat do you need to declare the money, then it's taken as regular income. Meaning there is no way to deduct what you have spent to get the coins, so it's not practical. I'm considering opening a fake company to go around that problem.
Gosh i hope you are using a vpn.
This forum is a huge honeypot for sure.
@BCH
great p&d
he should move to germany. after one year of holding it's all tax free. something'll have to be done about that.
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Post 20995929 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
wait what? no capital gains for long term (more than 1-2 years) investments??!?!
yep. not a freaking bean after one year.
and it's super low in the netherlands too, something like 1.2% with no minimum time needed.
and there was i thinking the eu was all harmonised.
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Post 20996125 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
Are you sure this apply to cryptocurrencies? Here in Czech we have very similar law - no capital gain taxing after 1 year hold. The problem is, cryptocurency gains can't be declared as capital gains - it falls into category "other gains" in czech law.
yep. it's been a well known thing for a long time.
https://www.coindesk.com/german-government-relieves-capital-gains-tax-on-bitcoin-positions/
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Post 20996393 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
And How high Will BTH go ...... Just holding it But big part of me wants to sell another part as wel ...........
korea is leading this run by a country mile which means it could go crazy high as they don't seem to care what they're pumping.
they were the ones who pushed ethereum to the absolute heights.
i don't think it's a ver pump any more. anyone might regret getting rid now.
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Post 21023024 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
the majority of those addresses are pre fork.
i'd like to see ones that were only created after it.
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Post 21023799 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
Bitcoin Cash 3.3Billion volkume in last 24 hours LOL
That was yesterday because the total volume of bitcoin cash this weekend was 3.8Billion while bitcoin was 3.2Billion but this didn't mean bitcoin cash will take bitcoin place.
the korean exchanges have been selling zero fee vouchers https://www.bithumb.com/u1/US138
i guess roger ver scooped up more than a few.
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Post 21132399 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
you need to verify to get higher limits. new eu rules for all prepaid cards.
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yep. and i think they're reducing it to 250 euros.
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Post 21142962 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/900451482884952064it looks like litecoin is getting an atomic swap pump. i'm really curious to see how well all this stuff is gonna integrate. it's been a long time coming.
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Post 21143251 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.18h):
Could you explain what this means please?
when both litecoin and bitcoin have segwit atomic swaps will be possible. this'll mean a decentralised, trustless and near instant exchange between the two blockchains which opens up many possibilities.
https://www.coindesk.com/cross-blockchain-trades-lightning-gives-new-life-atomic-swaps/
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Post 21202013 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):
This is proof it's yours, especially as it was quoted by another person back on 2/1/16
Based on this, won't the mods give you your account back?
they're seriously slow with this type of stuff normally. there are sad little threads in the meta section that drag on for ages.
i change my password and email pretty regularly. you never know when the next hack will be.
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Post 21248494 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):
Why you cant just hold? Free coins and we can expect many speculative moves in bch. Not best moment to sell I think
there will no doubt be many moves in the future, but there are millions of them locked up in coinbase and others and we don't know when they'll be released.
it'll probably more than double the supply.
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Post 22007685 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):
Your game theory is shit.
i've never met anyone who could tell me what a game theory was. it's usually used by assholes to look complex and clever. they don't know either.
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Post 22565899 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
BCH = 0.085 BTC. LOL
Who bought bcash at the top?
i'm amazed it was so high for so long. i wouldn't discount the pumpers scooping it up for some fun at a later date, but it's hardly looking like the bitcoin liberation it was billing itself as.
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Post 22775891 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I really hope so... Last time it went this fast it hit a massive dump at 5k...
i think most of this rising and alt falling is people moving into bitcoin with the expectation of all these forks.
it looks more and more like 2x is either not gonna happen at all, or it'll be a piece of crap no one's interested in. bitcoin gold is the latter no matter what.
when both are confirmed non events then i'll guess bitcoin will fall and then have a relief rally
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Post 22915438 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
Best time to convert your bitcoin to a worthy altcoin?
I guess its enough crash for the alts now... time for some recovery!
alts have had two or more years of absolute craziness almost without a breather. i don't see how any of them can justify any of their valuations. they've done absolutely nothing yet some have theoretical values in the billions.
there's a long ass way for them to fall before enough other people will be convinced they're worth a go.
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Post 22934254 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
I really feel bad for some of the later comers to BTC (e.g. South Korean and Japanese from the legalization as payment this year).
BTC is now at $5,700.00 on Bithumb!! Previously they believed Roger Ver's hype and led the way up in BCH volume and price. BTC hardly had any volume there, it serves more as a reference price, since ALT are quoted in BTC. Occasionally they pump Ripple and ETH. But now in the past few days, volume is mostly in BTC. There is real FOMO as they realize that they had the wrong crypto all along.
Am I right in thinking Japan also took the brunt of the Goxxing? Or was that just an accident of geography?
Nah. The victims were almost all non japanese.
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Post 23014170 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
I lost several bitcoin on the new sharex exchange so beware people. Id be much richer now if not for scams.
lets hope they burn in karma at least.
/Globb
i've never heard of it. what does it exchange and how did you lose it?
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Post 23014657 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
Im starting to feel uncertain about this exchanges... i hope cex.io dont screw me up cause all my btc is there
why is it on there?
there's no reason to leave crypto on there. there is a reason to leave dollars because it takes days to move.
unless you're a psycho trader supreme you can wait 10-30 minutes to get your safe crypto into a dangerous exchange. get it off there now.
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Post 23093132 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
there's lots of impressive words and even more impressive supposition. who is anyone to know who 'whales' are and what their intentions are? and what's with the ongoing fear and deification of this popescu guy? as far as i can tell he's an unpleasant writer who owns a few thousand coins.
things have moved on. the people who might have had majority influence once upon a time are now sidelined and yesterday's men.
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Post 23097009 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
i've spent the last hour reading. i still don't get it and i still don't get why i should be paying any attention to anything he thinks or does beyond 2012. sorry folks.
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Post 23099305 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
He ran an exchange. Probably shorted the Gox collapse. If he was sitting on a hundred thousand coins I wouldn't be surprised.
great. so do a few other people.
why is he the dark lord?
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Post 23431242 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
Do I bother to help?
nope. there've been plenty of chances in the past. he didn't take any. he probably won't now.
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Post 23435529 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
why are you guys wasting time worrying about junk forks?
coinbase have just confirmed their position on the primary junk fork -
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/2892985-segwit-2x-faq'Following the fork, we will continue referring to the current bitcoin blockchain as Bitcoin with the symbol ‘BTC’. We will refer to the new blockchain resulting from the fork as Bitcoin2x with the symbol ‘B2X’.'
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Post 23436387 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
Seriously this.
I mean I know people like free stuff, but I'm starting to really think the majority of people here don't have a pot to piss in and don't actually own any bitcoin, or have money to buy more bitcoin. In which case, ya'll got bigger problems then waiting for some junk shitcoin that will be DOA.
you missed my important paragraph.
coinbase just confirmed they'll treat 2x as an alt.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/2892985-segwit-2x-faq
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Post 23436539 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
Their comments are ambiguous.
"The Bitcoin Segwit2x fork is projected to take place on November 16th and will temporarily result in two bitcoin blockchains."
This doesn't sound like an admission of defeat.
they have to say that because they don't know what the miners are gonna get up to. but this is certainly a big factor in deterring miner power.
Oh, I thought you were referring to this BTG crap.
that's certainly the junkiest of the current crop, but it's good to know the heavyweight junk is being schooled too.
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Post 23766321 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
I'm very happy with my ledger nano s. It would wipe the device after the 3rd failed PIN attempt. Also there is no known exploit (fixed or unfixed) right now unlike trezor
i'm wondering why the trezor gets so much more bad publicity than the ledger. there must be exploits but you never hear about them. either they're killing hackers off or it is the perfect device.
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Post 23766671 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.24h):
What if you temporarily can't recall the PIN and you've lost the seed?
then you're stupid and you deserve to lose the coins. you shouldn't put one satoshi into it until your seed is backed up to hell and back.
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Post 23994383 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):
Uh maybe they shoulda translated that fudfest into chinese?
I hope the current bunch of miners bankrupt themselves and we get some subservient ones to replace them.
They'll know their place second time around.
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Post 24048329 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):
no worries, it happens. yea, i was having long term unemployment back in the day, so what little i mined ended up spent pretty quickly, much to the sorrow of my wallet.
why aren't you doing a sig campaign? you'd get a whole bitcoin within a few months, though i don't know how much longer that's gonna be possible.
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Post 24049677 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):
real life keeps my activity low. only reason i'm active right now is i'm sick with a cold.
a few minutes on here in the morning, at lunch and before bed can add up to a great bonus, but for all i know you have your hand on a dead man's switch 18 hours a day.
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Post 24369518 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
That's the thing. You don't know what the insiders are doing. They have an asymmetric advantage. But their advantage doesn't matter if you hold BTC and BCH in equal proportions.
proportions are irrelevant. the whole thing will fly down the toilet if the games continue from all sides.
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Post 24428463 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
bch hash rate and price, in btc terms, has been at these levels before. why is everyone crapping themselves this time more than last time?
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Post 24428605 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
bch hash rate and price, in btc terms, has been at these levels before. why is everyone crapping themselves this time more than last time?
Because the writing is on the wall...
Let's be real... Come on torque the transaction fees are insanely high and it's slow as death
funny, the writing wasn't on the wall 36-48 hours ago. how quickly the world's largest crypto dies. kinda impressive when you think about it.
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Post 24428803 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
Anyone here think that Bitcoin Cash was created not to compete with Bitcoin but instead with Litecoin and Ethereum?
Doesn't make sense why Bitcoin Cash would want to hurt Bitcoin since most own both coins long term.
no. it was designed to destroy the hold certain people have over bitcoin and gain control over it.
all other coins are irrelevant.
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Post 24428905 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
as it has been a load of times in past and we all know who's doing it and why they're doing it.
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Post 24463244 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
Serious question. Core currently has some development in mind to lower transaction fees and keep the mempool clear? make bitcoin more resistant to spam attacks?
ask the guy who's paying your wages to go easy on the spamming.
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Post 24651710 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):
Am already suffering from Fork Fatigue.... Paper wallets, too. Lots of them. It's a pain.
It's raining money!
I already insta-dumped my bitcoin gold freebie to enlarge my BTC balance by about 2%, but I'll hold BTX for a while because it looks good.
And you earn 3% every week in November ... 4 % in December ... And a 1% increase every month until Btx is distributed
these guys know how to fork. and they didn't have to spend millions of dollars on russian psyops or exchange and mining manipulation either.
i'm holding my btx too.
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0.1 btc is the big one. there's a huge buy wall there.
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Post 24710747 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):
$80,000,000 buy order for BCASH?
Will it or will it not get pulled?
Maybe this order is just a short cover from another exchange?
i think we all can guess who owns it.
and its fate is way, way more exciting than anything bitcoin is gonna do in the next 24 hours.
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Post 24711046 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):
Don't forget he ran a country wide pump and dump complete with wash trading and exchange DDoS. I imagine Korea burned most of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9dUqTMs9O4he's on the radio now.
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Post 24746990 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):
icos will be regulated to the best of their ability, more likely it'll be like america and ico operators will shun identifiable europeans.
china hasn't and can't regulate any cryptocurrency. they can regulate exchanges and other ways to interact with them. that's what they're doing everywhere in the world already pretty much.
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Post 24984322 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
After skimming the white paper for two minutes - Radix heavily relies on sharding. Sharding has not been solved for ETH yet. What special advantage does Radix have that it thinks it can solve sharding before ETH?
no idea but that coin's been worked on for years and years. it used to be called emunie. maybe he solved this stuff long before anyone else came up, or thought, they came up with the idea.
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Post 25198567 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
it seems dumb to do it at such short notice, but in principle why wouldn't they?
they have more money than anyone else, a market that's been proven to be insanely twitchy and the incentive to do it.
they make money on the exchanges buying back lower on top of the futures trading.
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Post 25202831 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
Wow, that's a lot of fees you paid, sorry to hear about it! I just did a crypto-to-crypto transaction, in which case the fee is 0.5%, which I think is reasonable. My guess is that credit cards are a risk to them due to chargebacks, so they counterbalance this with high fees. Are the fees still that high for credit cards?
for certain markets their fees are insane, specifically card to crypto.
i think for byteball at one point they were nearly double the price you could market buy at.
and all they do is go and buy on poloniex or bittrex on your behalf anyway. card fees are big but not that big and i'm sure there's some risk. i ain't paying double to offset their losses.
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Post 25205199 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
never trust this fuckng marcket bitcoin
keep it up. we're all rooting for you secretly. it's kinda cute to watch.
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Post 25205748 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
question. did BJA sell his account or come back retarded?
looks consistent to me.
i think that guy was the first person i ever put on ignore.
when you know exactly what a poster is gonna say without having to read them it's time to let go. he was one note for months on end.
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Post 25218010 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
https://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitflyer/JPYpay attention to this.
1 million yen is the next psychological barrier and i'll bet that's the biggest one so far.
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Post 25219145 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
I'm gonna LMAO if BTG over takes BCH on the charts.
We should help make that happen. In fact I'm urging all Bitcoiners who currently own BCH to trade it for moar BTG, just for the lulz.
I mean hey they're both shitty forks, but lets kill off the shittier one. Lol.
+1 Pump up that BTG shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jIi've been reading these today
https://qz.com/1053799/chinas-bitmain-dominates-bitcoin-mining-now-it-wants-to-cash-in-on-artificial-intelligence/https://qz.com/1137683/the-paradise-papers-suggest-chinese-tech-billionaire-lei-jun-is-connected-to-the-worlds-biggest-bitcoin-miner/goddamn does bitmain have a lot of money. probably not enough to accomplish what they want but it's not to be underestimated all the same.
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Post 25222348 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):
What's up with Finex?
planned maintenance.
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Post 25373452 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):
the east has gotten over this hump and is flying away upwards. i wonder how big the gap is gonna be before it snaps shut? it could get ridiculously huge until the dollarites get over themselves.
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Post 25932749 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):
You can consider
bitFlyer they are
approved for 42 US states though the main office is in Japan. One downside is you have to fund your account with a wire transfer for fiat.
circle had the credit and debit card thing and wires won't ever replace that. circle was amazingly good to use. they still do a bunch of bitcoin volume but it's nothing to do with retail customers. there were surely a huge amount of costs involved in running it but there are also a huge amount of fees to charge.
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Post 26229129 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):
Alts aren’t part of futures. Anyway Forget it. I’m probably just being paranoid.
let's see what happens when both futures markets are running for a while, but i think you could be on to something.
bitcoin and alt traders are used to commanding the market. if that's taken away from bitcoin then they have a whole world of other coins that they do have more control of. it's possible futures might make a two speed crypto market. as certain alts gets bigger they too might have futures at which point they're left to the bigger boys too.
it'll drive more regulation and much more discerning exchanges. they won't list shitcoins.
but whatever happens it's gonna take a while to figure out the effects.
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Post 26229430 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):
How is a cash settled bet on bitcoin taking away command of the market?
it doesn't on its own of course, but it inspires people with futures positions to take some direct involvement in the bitcoin market and they have a lot more money to play with than the last generation of whales.
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Post 26229835 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):
maybe i'm being dumb but that didn't address the question at all, all it did was make some historic comparisons to precious metals and it didn't explain the actual mechanism as to why futures affected them either.
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Post 26745172 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):
My advice as a veteran since $49 is to take some profit if you're well into the green to soothe your nerves, and to make sure you hold at least 1 BCH for every 1 BTC you hold.
you sure your advice isn't coming from an ever so slightly different angle? just curious.
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Post 26844276 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):
interesting -
https://www.lottoland.ie/bitcoinlottois this a mainstream first?
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Post 27210724 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):
I reckon 100 billion dollar ripple is the epitaph for this particular bubble.
I know market cap is dumb but let that sink in anyway.
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Post 27211624 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):
Y'all should be waiting for 2020. That's when destiny is fulfilled. Until then I'm prepared for all kinds of oddness to happen.
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Post 27213904 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):
Why does nipple even need discussing. How did it wind up sneaking into the crypto market anyway?
Who left the back door open? Could sworn I locked it.
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Post 27219027 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/stunning-look-inside-world-south-koreas-bitcoin-zombiesIn fact, according to a recent study, more than 3 in 10 salaried workers in South Korea have invested in one or more cryptos.
And the sole reason why bitcoin remains an unprecedented investment craze even as hackers have stolen millions, lawmakers are pushing for new taxes and regulations, and leading financial officials have called it a “Ponzi scheme" is that - so far at least - it has been the best investment for virtually anyone who has bought it: the S.Korean survey (which polled 941 people via email from Dec. 19 to 20, with about 80% of respondents in their 20s and 30s) revealed that of those who invested in cryptos, more than 80% made money from it, and about 20% made an average return of 425% on their investment. The average Korean investor owned some 5.66 million won ($5,260) in virtual currencies.
It's 1 country and
ready to follow the mathematic path of TrustNet.
Network centric trust :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWfpxB3HZOY 941 people by email? what type of moron would base an article and brand a whole country's market on a pollling method like that?
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Post 27596618 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):
Crypto (carding) is done.
people with coinbase and american bitpay cards are fine. it's one crappy company being crappy. if a non crappy company shows up then the people who've lost cards will get other ones.
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Post 27597310 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.37h):
You ECB, stop printing all those fancy euros before you call companies that help people save themselves from inflation "crappy"!
Seriously, most of the companies that offered cards through Wavecrest have sent out emails to customers saying they will replace the cards (free of charge) as soon as they find a viable partner. I haven't received any such email yet, but it's still the weekend.
i think it's gonna take months or maybe never before they find replacements, especially for gbp cards. wavecrest was the only game in town for a lot of them.
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Post 28276368 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):
for most coins it won't be a valid comparison. they use completely different algorithms and machines to mine and the figures can't be compared.
the only direct comparison is bcash pretty much which uses the same machinery.
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Post 28442624 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):
Before I get started on this process, I thought I'd ask here:
Does anyone familiar with a Ledger Nano S know if there is a way to sweep an old btc paper wallet to it by just scanning the QR? I'm away from home and trying to help someone make that move and split off the clones. I've used coinomi, but the btc amount is enough to give me pause; the shitcoins we don't care, but it scares me to sweep xx btc to that sketchy wallet. Don't want to set up another wallet. Sweeping to an exchange is out due to withdrawal limits.
TIA
use the mycelium cold storage spending function.
get the ledger's address up in the app ready to roll. scan the paper wallet private key. scan the the ledger address. done.
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yet another slug who got caught in the fast lane.
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Post 29797510 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):
Is it not possible the bitfinexed guy exit scammed with his legal funds?
Whatever happened he's put up a valiant fight but bitfinex have the funds to out troll everyone.
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Post 29811201 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):
That would also make some sense as to the timing of the Friedman LLP audit being terminated.
run this through google translate -
http://m.etoday.co.kr/view.php?idxno=1592309bithumb are guaranteeing tether's value no matter what happens. once again ifinex has slithered out of a corner by offloading their issues onto someone else. how do they manage it time and again?
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Post 30173457 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):
It’s their exchange. They can do whatever they like.
That said I did a quick google and am seeing conflicting reports about corporate accounts on BFX. Maybe Elwar can clarify.
american accounts only as far as i can tell.
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Post 31568513 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):
Oh well, it's always hard to know what to do. I have most of my BTC on Ledger wallets, so my strategy was to wait until they supported those forks as they did with BCH and BTG or wait until most forks finished, then move all my BTC to another ledger and then use the previous seed to claim it all. Some months ago fees were expensive for moving too.
Also, one is never sure when those shitcoins are gonna pump later. Decisions decisions.
I guess it is just about time I move my BTC and start claiming everything... will decide later if sell immediately, wait, or a mix of both.
Retrospectively I do agree I could have done much better on this
there are way, way too many forks now for the hardware wallet providers to bother any more. you're on your own with most of them.
move your bitcoin out of the ledger, pull out the private key with a bip39 tool and go play.
the bitpie/bither combination is good for claiming some of the coins and bitpie now has an internal exchange where you can get rid of some of them. that's a big bonus as some of them were only on weird chinese places that were insisting on passports and stuff.
i'm on the fence about instadumping myself. so few people will bother claiming that i can foresee some insane pumps in the future. some of these coins must have a supply 100 times less than bitcoin and what supply there is around now is going straight into pumper pockets.
i've gotten rid of a proportion but i'll wait with the rest. there could be major dumbass windfalls in the future.
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Post 31570329 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):
just an fyi and
not an endorsement!
these guys apparently haven't been called scammers .....(yet .)
use at own risk, though as they say in OP, move coins 1st! then most you can lose is the forked shitcoins only.
anyway all good feedback so far but mostly from noobs if that means anything. 10% fee
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2434261.0the only tricky ones on the list they do are s2x and united bitcoin. united bitcoin in particularly has been loathsome in the way they've done it.
all the others can be done easily enough yourself. i wouldn't give away 10% when you can do it in a few clicks yourself. coinomi and bitpie/bither will take care of them.
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Post 32832707 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):
nope. it's been well known for several years. it gets wheeled out for old time's sake every now and then to make people feel better about themselves.
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Post 33721838 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):
Yeah but check the withdrawal page now. Everything requires verification. That wasn't the case 6 weeks ago.
canadian localbitcoins volume just went through the roof -
https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/CADrelated?
but so did europe as well. it's far higher than the peak of the bubble. i'm really not sure why.
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Post 33722304 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):
It's not as painless as I'd imagined
go find an OTC place like genesis trading or cumberland mining.
you'll get money straight in your account from an account that doesn't set off red flashing lights and sirens in the bank's office.
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Post 33914485 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):
So we are going to sub 5k soon?
or here's the scenario that no one ever wants to mention but almost always happens - not a great deal.
why does everything have to balance on a light switch? why are people not well rounded enough to acknowledge that the least hysterical option is often the correct one?
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Post 33925985 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):
Erm, guys, i don´t get how to get UBTC. Couldn´t a helpfull soul direct me ? Thanks ! I´m always offtopic, i know, but can´t help myself.
you're too late. you had to send them some bitcoin from the address you're claiming and hand over your ID and blood and even then they'd probably deny it to you. their 'offer' closed a month ago.
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Post 34878242 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):
I still don´t know, where to sell my "Bitcoin Private". Let alone "Bitcoin Black" !
I`m happy for any suggestions !
you're not spoiled for choice but there's a few options
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-private/#markets
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Post 38870075 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):
That's funny. There were supposedly too many people waiting to buy in $14,000 as well - like bill gates and da bag insitutions were waiting there to buy every coin at 14K.
why would anyone bother buying in at a price level like that? someone would have to be a moron to think that was the bottom. that's not how bitcoin has ever rolled so far. no reason to believe it was gonna start rolling that way this time.
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Post 38893808 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):
no government does not sound like a shitty situation to me
We don't have a proper government in the UK, and the arrest and imprisonment of Tommy Robinson may become more significnt thn the Italian crisis. It's opening up a massive can of worms.
belgium did just fine without a government for many, many months. and italy has never had governments that did anything other than implode after a few months.
as for that robinson guy, all he had to do was not jeopardise the trial he was jeopardising. he was given plenty of warning and was told what would happen if he did what he carried on doing. anyone else would've been jailed too. the far right can spin it all they want.
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Post 39272519 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
I like the famous anecdote about the US's phenomenal talent of wasting money. NASA engineers spent millions of dollar trying to develop a pen that could write in space, or so the story goes. Meanwhile, the soviets used pencils.
pencil shavings floating around were perceived to be a problem as they could get into delicate electronic packages. hence, pens.
at least there was some reasoning involved. whether it was valid? who knows. NASA (back then) was all about safety, anything that might cause equipment failure was minimized.
use ten pencils per flight so they don't have to be sharpened? that still saves millions of dollars.
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Post 39275221 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
Yeah but landing in one piece...
there's little to no gravity, plus you only have to put a few tons down versus lifting several thousand of high explosive but let's not get too technical.
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Post 39281377 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
We launch all the time with no problem these days, If all that stuff that came after the launches is so easy, why do we never just throw in the 10% more effort on any one of the modern launches and go back some time? I'm not arguing the moon landing was a hoax here. Just pointing out the obvious followup question to what you said.
90% or more of launches these days are for ruthlessly commercial reasons.
and the next people to make the effort will be doing it for ascendant prestige which means china, not the tired old west. it might even be a private operation.
and that whole era was a freaky anomaly. there's no appetite to push the limits any more. these days it takes airliners longer to fly many places than it did back then. the world's fastest plane designs like the sr-71 and x-15 are over 60 years old now.
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Post 39453980 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
bitcoin just had a 14.7% difficulty change upwards. that's the biggest since january. there sure is a lot of firepower out there somewhere.
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Post 39610302 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
http://fortune.com/2018/06/07/blockchain-firm-r3-is-running-out-of-money-sources-say/mike hearn's pet R3 is running out of money.
how do you run out of over $100 million? do you eat the money? do you shovel cash into your heating boiler? in silicon valley is a million dollars a euphemism for $10,000?
at least if you throw 100 million dollars at a film you usually wind up with something to watch at the end of it. this'll finish with some strings of 1s and 0s with 0 purpose.
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Post 39911702 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
Let’s hope so because I’m starting to get a little concerned atm
why? 20 grand was just as dumb an overshoot as 2013 but maybe less crooked, though that may not be a dead cert yet. $3-5k is more than possible or lower and that would be pretty normal based on previous behavior. i'd only get concerned if it went sub $1000.
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Post 39913946 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.57h):
Screw that noise, Jack! You should be more salty. This is a bloody epic tragedy of epic proportions.
uh, ok.
oh the humanity.
yowzers and stuff.
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Post 40026221 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
I am thinking of going to Sweden, with the express purpose of seeing just how bad muslim immigration is for a country, most especially a Scandinavian country.
the fact that bitcoin has permitted you to afford something like this is the biggest bubble indicator so far.
instead of standing in a foreign street watching one muslim per hour go buy a newspaper you could be working on cold fusion in your lab at home and make the world a better place.
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Post 40257630 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
isn't this guy the planet's most deluded bull who vanished when his ridiculous predictions turned out to be, uh, ridiculous?
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Post 40338155 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
I just look at statistics. The odds of a marriage in the states surviving ten years today is something like 3%. Herbivores, mgtow, the beautiful ones, all the same shit. Women today are not just useless, they are actively dangerous. Happened back in the roman days too, it's just what happens when things go too well for too long.
it's very, very simple.
if you really gotta marry someone, and i see no reason why anyone should, marry a woman who's richer than you are. there are plenty of them these days.
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Post 40338473 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
it's not how humans work.
if women want some cock then they'll have to start working that way. there really aren't that many 6ft 2inch millionaires to go round, and even fewer who are dumb enough to get tied down.
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Post 40365103 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.
there've always been bulls and there'll always be bullish posts no matter what the price is doing. bears are more consistently laughed at no matter what even when they're totally right.
it's not despair that levels the playing field for the next rally, it's crushing boredom.
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Post 40389743 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
Is there any sing that the Lightning Networks are creating some real world use of bitcoin? Like purchasing some stuff from shops?
Is there any explorers to look and analyse the use of the Lightning Networks?
How about atomic swaps.
https://joltfun.com works well, and bitrefill is doing the lightning network successfully too.
neither of those are actual killer apps as you can pay fine with normal bitcoin. i think we'll have to wait for someone to come up with something really surprising and it no doubt will come out of nowhere and amaze us.
https://explorer.acinq.co that looks like some type of explorer. dunno about actual transactions.
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Post 40448163 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):
It wasn't bitcoin tracking that sent Ross to jail. It was poor opsec, entrapment and massive use of federal resources.
it would've been eventually. no one back then knew how good it would become. he would've left trails that would've led to him years down the line even had he walked away.
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Post 40660827 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
"enormous assets ... will be returned to creditors of Mt.Gox"
Is "creditors" the legal term for the users that held balances on Mt. Gox? Sounds like a huge win.
great news for anyone caught up in that.
and it's much better news for everyone else than if tibanne ltd had the money returned. that would've meant an instant 60% tax bill that needed paying.
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Post 40661243 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
Creditors normally means businesses owed something. Users come much further down and get nothing. Heres to hoping.
all of those debts have long been met completely. this is the leftovers. it otherwise would've gone straight back to mark karpeles.
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Post 40662668 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
It will be in fiat...sorry guys.....they don't have a clue on how to return it as BTC to the people who need it back from the mt. gox crash
uh, bullshit.
https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf'In bankruptcy proceedings, non-monetary claims are converted into monetary
claims based on the valuation as at the time of the commencement of
bankruptcy proceedings. In contrast, in civil rehabilitation proceedings,
non-monetary claims are not converted into monetary claims at the time of
commencement of the civil rehabilitation proceedings. Therefore, in the civil
rehabilitation proceedings in this matter, claims seeking a refund of Bitcoins
(“Bitcoin Claims”) will also not be converted into monetary claims after the
commencement of the civil rehabilitation proceedings. '
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Post 40665360 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
Sooo what gives for this recent dump? just another completion of a bart simpson or is this news about Indian banks coming to fruition really crashing the market?
why should anyone care what indian banks do? there is no indian market.
japanese or american banks would be a whole different matter.
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Post 40671953 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1010181558031015936omigod
'they' got to john mcafee.
probably by talking to his heart with invisible sound waves and persuading it to have a weird turn.
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Post 40886032 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
What the hell, I'll play along. What are the actions -- or even utterances -- made by Gavin Andresen that lead you to labeling him as "Bcash king"?
when the CIA scooped out his brain and stuck a CPU and wifi card in there instead.
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Post 41163576 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
They probably already do. I suspect Bitmain is pointing some of their hash at alternative pools just to obfuscate their true power.
i reckon they've had far more than 51% for several years, and certainly have enough power to influence 51%. letting anyone know that is not helpful to their image.
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Post 41181892 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):
Comes off as a bit paranoia, conspiracy theory laden and lacking in evidence. Thus FUD spreading?
the richest miner making the most mining machines who is also hell bent on driving everyone else out of business who also has litte interest in bitcoin other than extracting the most money and power possible. all of that adds up to more than 51% to me.
that smells of logic not fud but carry on with your patrol if it makes you feel good.
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Post 41209984 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):
His yesterday's post says we're going down to ~$3k which is a complete BS and FUD
one day of action says nothing about an overall trend. let's see whether he was right at the end of the year.
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Post 41351300 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):
This @JJG trolling is intolerable. I must deal with this.
hey, dude.
open secret - virtually no one has the time to read the entirety of his posts. i'm sure many skip them entirely.
don't sweat it.
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Post 41691440 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):
$6000 - $7000 feels like 2015 when we were stuck in a price range for a significant time, I think it was $150 - $300.
Does anybody have a feeling we could still be in the $6000 - $7000 range before breaking upwards violently towards the end of 2018?
You could say this is an accumulation phase.
everyone's still crazy bullish and engaged compared to that phase. that was real boredom and indifference by that point.
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Post 41975794 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):
This is seriously the most boring season of Bitcorn I've lived through.
At least I was a miner previously to keep things exciting.
Maybe I should tune out until 2020 or something...
My gut tells me we're not going to end this year higher than we did last.
did futures really tame bitcoin? come on honey badger, wake up!
Nope
The bubble burst did. And it's not tamed, it's been dragged into an alley and had the shit kicked out of it.
Now it's groaning in a corner until a garbage truck runs it over in the morning.
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Post 41986593 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):
At Wex (formerly BTC-E) BTC price touched $9,000 totday. Someone recognising true potential?
of wex's imminent implosion. yep.
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Post 46247796 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):
closer to home 1broker is attracting some heat.
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-218maybe they're snorting a little less coke in bitmex HQ tonight.
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Post 46754807 (copy this link) (by European Central Bank) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):
I don't see the point of underline a 15.000 sell..... isn't daily volume more than 700.000 BTC?
What am I missing here?
700,000 of the same old coins moving back and forth. this is fresh meat to dump.
