All posts made by BlindMayorBitcorn in Bitcointalk's Wall Observer thread

Quote from: empowering on October 03, 2014, 02:06:30 AM

lol

Explain pls

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 03, 2014, 01:55:07 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 03, 2014, 01:35:16 AM

i'm liquidating some assets

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808587.0

Dem grainy pictures tho

granny pictures? eww!

Oh no! My porn habits ARE being reviewed

$327 on BTC-e. The sky really does fall this weekend. Tragical

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 04, 2014, 01:11:23 PM

Quote from: klee on October 04, 2014, 01:06:16 PM

FYI I got ALL IN on the way down @353$

Cool

Ouch

Quote from: inca on October 04, 2014, 01:59:54 PM

Stamp price: 346.5
1000 coins to 370
1000 coins to 344

$329

BTC-e always leads the dump

Quote from: serpicodk on October 04, 2014, 02:30:55 PM

So cheap coins are now or should I wait for even cheaper prices?

We have the answer but it's thousands of pages back and now we forget

Too much panic even for a cat meme

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 04, 2014, 08:30:31 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 04, 2014, 08:26:06 PM

Quote from: empowering on October 04, 2014, 08:24:53 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 04, 2014, 08:14:39 PM

How are you money hobbyists and trading enthusiasts planning to break this news to ur famblys?

what?

What what?

will you stop it with this horrific meme

What meme?

Quote from: TheJuice on October 04, 2014, 08:38:57 PM

Quote from: David M on October 04, 2014, 08:34:44 PM

3 BTC For a Grand!

Just placed a 4k order in finex.

CALLING BOTTOM!!!!!!!

Good luck!

Quote from: TheJuice on October 04, 2014, 08:44:10 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 04, 2014, 08:43:23 PM

Quote from: niktitan132 on October 04, 2014, 08:40:15 PM

Bought some at $329.Let's see what will happen.

Take a guess what will happen?

new ATH?

Quote from: TheJuice on October 04, 2014, 08:46:56 PM

BID walls building. Take off imminent. Panic buyers will come flocking.

Dido will write a song about it. It will be heart-warming...

$312 on BTC-e

Quote from: TheJuice on October 04, 2014, 08:58:18 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 04, 2014, 08:56:10 PM

Quote from: tarmi on October 04, 2014, 08:53:35 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 04, 2014, 08:51:25 PM

Quote from: tarmi on October 04, 2014, 08:49:52 PM

Quote from: TheJuice on October 04, 2014, 08:46:56 PM

BID walls building. Take off imminent. Panic buyers will come flocking.

let me guess.

you hope to take a 50 $ profit on poor shroomskit?

And how exactly would he do that, dumbass?

btc trading 101

buy cheap coins
sell to shroomskit for a 50 $ profit

Why would i be buying?

panic buying when this this gets to 400

200 you mean?

Quote from: byronbb on October 04, 2014, 11:36:45 PM

What's interesting is days destroyed is basically at zero. All the coins being moved to exchanges to be sold are probably very new. The theory Chinese miners are selling to get their money offshore denominated in USD is pretty interesting.

I will keep coming back to BurtW's post on mining breakeven costs based around energy, which projects a mid October price of $233. If miner's are selling there comes a price point where buying is more cost effective than mining. I could see a bottom around $250.

Quote from: BurtW on September 02, 2014, 04:29:02 AM

When calculated in the OP over the time period from March 14, 2013 to March 13, 2014 the average increase in the difficulty and hash rate was 23.92% per adjustment period and the average length of each adjustment period was 11.38 days.

Recalculated over the period June 29, 2013 to June 29, 2014 it was 23.45% and 11.41 days.

Now, recalculating over the period August 24, 2013 to August 31, 2014 it is 21.12% and 11.63 days.

Assuming the network growth rate over the next year is the same as it was this last year we get:

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Hash Rate Power Energy Cost Cost
Date Difficulty TH/s MW MWh $/Period $/BTC
--------- ------------------ ---------- ------ ---------- -------------- ----------
11-Sep-14 33,220,936,877 237,808 238 66,349 $6,634,853 $131.64
23-Sep-14 40,236,446,759 288,028 288 80,360 $8,035,984 $159.44
04-Oct-14 48,733,473,526 348,853 349 97,330 $9,733,002 $193.12
16-Oct-14 59,024,880,009 422,523 423 117,884 $11,788,392 $233.90
28-Oct-14 71,489,598,585 511,750 512 142,778 $14,277,833 $283.29
08-Nov-14 86,586,583,575 619,820 620 172,930 $17,292,988 $343.11
20-Nov-14 104,871,710,060 750,712 751 209,449 $20,944,876 $415.57
02-Dec-14 127,018,241,359 909,246 909 253,680 $25,367,960 $503.33
13-Dec-14 153,841,618,762 1,101,258 1,101 307,251 $30,725,098 $609.62
25-Dec-14 186,329,486,300 1,333,819 1,334 372,135 $37,213,544 $738.36
05-Jan-15 225,678,056,071 1,615,491 1,615 450,722 $45,072,202 $894.29
17-Jan-15 273,336,153,086 1,956,646 1,957 545,904 $54,590,430 $1,083.14
29-Jan-15 331,058,561,407 2,369,846 2,370 661,187 $66,118,694 $1,311.88
09-Feb-15 400,970,635,767 2,870,303 2,870 800,815 $80,081,465 $1,588.92
21-Feb-15 485,646,557,708 3,476,447 3,476 969,929 $96,992,858 $1,924.46
05-Mar-15 588,204,117,648 4,210,593 4,211 1,174,756 $117,475,554 $2,330.86
16-Mar-15 712,419,512,763 5,099,775 5,100 1,422,837 $142,283,732 $2,823.09
28-Mar-15 862,866,387,600 6,176,732 6,177 1,723,308 $172,330,835 $3,419.26
08-Apr-15 1,045,084,236,901 7,481,119 7,481 2,087,232 $208,723,207 $4,141.33
20-Apr-15 1,265,782,371,309 9,060,961 9,061 2,528,008 $252,800,823 $5,015.89
02-May-15 1,533,086,956,002 10,974,431 10,974 3,061,866 $306,186,635 $6,075.13
13-May-15 1,856,840,218,301 13,291,983 13,292 3,708,463 $370,846,321 $7,358.06
25-May-15 2,248,962,841,151 16,098,949 16,099 4,491,607 $449,160,670 $8,911.92
06-Jun-15 2,723,892,885,897 19,498,682 19,499 5,440,132 $544,013,236 $10,793.91
17-Jun-15 3,299,117,405,623 23,616,363 23,616 6,588,965 $658,896,517 $13,073.34
29-Jun-15 3,995,816,323,188 28,603,604 28,604 7,980,405 $798,040,547 $15,834.14
10-Jul-15 4,839,642,281,734 34,644,038 34,644 9,665,686 $966,568,646 $19,177.95
22-Jul-15 5,861,665,181,962 41,960,074 41,960 11,706,861 $1,170,686,065 $23,227.90
03-Aug-15 7,099,516,184,307 50,821,092 50,821 14,179,085 $1,417,908,463 $28,133.10
14-Aug-15 8,598,773,298,472 61,553,356 61,553 17,173,386 $1,717,338,634 $34,074.18
26-Aug-15 10,414,639,578,109 74,552,032 74,552 20,800,017 $2,080,001,680 $41,269.87
07-Sep-15 12,613,975,712,232 90,295,733 90,296 25,192,510 $2,519,250,952 $49,985.14

In other words something has got to give by the end of the year, or actually before December 1

Ok I know this might sound nuts. But what if electricity costs were not a factor. Imagine Putin has a secret mission whereby he is giving away power to a secret team of miners...in secret Shocked

What if I generate a meme of Putin trying to destroy bitcoin a la Godzilla? Would that convince you?

Now imagine a magical land where electricity is funnelled from state-owned factories and rigs are just another hidden operating expense. How much does it cost to mine a bitcoin there?

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:16:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:13:18 AM

Now imagine a magical land where electricity is funnelled from state-owned factories and rigs are just another hidden operating expense. How much does it cost to mine a bitcoin there?

Imagine a land where they have an excess of children, with abacuses, all mining by hand with their abaci.
(they have got dab radio to keep them going powered by geothermal of course)

Just saying the way I see it we will have a constant supply of very cheap coins from China for the forseeable future as no price is too low to sell free coins...

Quote from: phoenix1 on October 05, 2014, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:22:00 AM

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:16:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:13:18 AM

Now imagine a magical land where electricity is funnelled from state-owned factories and rigs are just another hidden operating expense. How much does it cost to mine a bitcoin there?

Imagine a land where they have an excess of children, with abacuses, all mining by hand with their abaci.
(they have got dab radio to keep them going powered by geothermal of course)

Just saying the way I see it we will have a constant supply of very cheap coins from China for the forseeable future as no price is too low to sell free coins...

It has been suggested that this is indeed happening in China (I guess it could happen anywhere...). Heck, you work in the IT dept of a state owned industry and plug a few miners into their power supply. Chances of getting caught must be close to zero - just another black box with a fan. You could probably bill them for the mining equipment too Cheesy

At this point I really can't see any other explanation

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:38:36 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:33:05 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on October 05, 2014, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:22:00 AM

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:16:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:13:18 AM

Now imagine a magical land where electricity is funnelled from state-owned factories and rigs are just another hidden operating expense. How much does it cost to mine a bitcoin there?

Imagine a land where they have an excess of children, with abacuses, all mining by hand with their abaci.
(they have got dab radio to keep them going powered by geothermal of course)

Just saying the way I see it we will have a constant supply of very cheap coins from China for the forseeable future as no price is too low to sell free coins...

It has been suggested that this is indeed happening in China (I guess it could happen anywhere...). Heck, you work in the IT dept of a state owned industry and plug a few miners into their power supply. Chances of getting caught must be close to zero - just another black box with a fan. You could probably bill them for the mining equipment too Cheesy

At this point I really can't see any other explanation

sorry... did I misunderstand... you mean covert non state funded, but using the states resources, in China? as opposed to the state doing it themselves?

Interesting thought, though they would have to be pretty sure of not getting caught... it is not uncommon to for people to disappear and never be seen again in China, but if you are talking more on a triad level.. then I guess it is a potential.

I wasn't being entirely clear. But that's what I meant. There are a lot of corrupt types willing to look the other way for a slice of the pie I guess

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:52:09 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on October 05, 2014, 01:42:22 AM

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:38:36 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:33:05 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on October 05, 2014, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:22:00 AM

Quote from: empowering on October 05, 2014, 01:16:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 01:13:18 AM

Now imagine a magical land where electricity is funnelled from state-owned factories and rigs are just another hidden operating expense. How much does it cost to mine a bitcoin there?

Imagine a land where they have an excess of children, with abacuses, all mining by hand with their abaci.
(they have got dab radio to keep them going powered by geothermal of course)

Just saying the way I see it we will have a constant supply of very cheap coins from China for the forseeable future as no price is too low to sell free coins...

It has been suggested that this is indeed happening in China (I guess it could happen anywhere...). Heck, you work in the IT dept of a state owned industry and plug a few miners into their power supply. Chances of getting caught must be close to zero - just another black box with a fan. You could probably bill them for the mining equipment too Cheesy

At this point I really can't see any other explanation

sorry... did I misunderstand... you mean covert non state funded, but using the states resources, in China? as opposed to the state doing it themselves?

Interesting thought, though they would have to be pretty sure of not getting caught... it is not uncommon to for people to disappear and never be seen again in China, but if you are talking more on a triad level.. then I guess it is a potential.

Ever charged your mobile phone at work ??
Ever met anyone in front office who has a clue about IT infrastructure? There are a few , but not many ...
Very easy to do IMO. No need for Triads, but that adds another sinister dimension so lets roll with it - Triad Manipulators Cheesy

Have you ever been to China? sure they have criminals, prisons full of them, but the average guy is not so gun ho for fucking with the machine, not unless they KNOW there is very very little chance of them getting caught...

Sure people might charge their cell phones at work, but we are talking about an industry that has got farms popping up like this (this one s in China)

=

I cannot imagine being able to plug this into work and have no one notice.

A few BFL machines hidden in the sever room is not going to cut it.

Now farms run by organised crime, that have literally hacked into and tapped a mains line somewhere...somewhere where it would not raise any eyebrows (like grow operations have been known to do) that I can imagine (if we are talking about this happening on a big scale, big enough to have an effect on the market, and if we are not, then it is more the guys with the farms like in the pic above, and the guys running on geothermal in europe, that are going to have an actual effect on the market (even if DIY small timers were saving a few extra bucks on the sparks, and there was a few of them, with a few machines hooked up here and there, sooner or later they are going to be out maneuvered.)

Good point

Quote from: TheJuice on October 05, 2014, 01:59:55 AM

Hope you all bought at <325 today. We are about to EXPLODE.

Like a Dido song?

Quote from: nanobrain on October 05, 2014, 03:30:22 AM

Just looking at the daily chart (stamp): out of the last 28 days (not including today) 21 have been 'red' days.

I'm struggling to find a period in BTC trading worse -- and I've been looking at 2011 and June - August 2013.

Hard times indeed. And this is only my first year Cry

I don't know how to post my Putin eats bitcoin meme...

O my good gawd another day of horror I see

Quote from: mmitech on October 05, 2014, 11:52:50 AM

this fucking pumper didn't learn anything, last time he spoke to calm people about MTgox and assure them nothing is wrong with their funds... we all know how that did end up, today he is twitting this:

these kind of early adopters are the problem of this community.

Religious types:P

Quote from: phosphorush on October 05, 2014, 02:00:48 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 05, 2014, 01:56:24 PM

Quote from: phosphorush on October 05, 2014, 01:55:31 PM

so does anybody know what may be causing this price decline?

Yes. Dumpers and traders.

The charts right now will be a good example.
We finally go up a few dollars and it will be a matter of minutes before traders will start dumping and we go down again.

that's in coindesk news, doesn't tell me much lol

Massive Chinese farms will continue to dump coins down to 200? 100? 50? and Coindesk will be talking about smart contracts and Doge in space...

It's a propaganda rag mostly

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 05, 2014, 02:31:27 PM

Quote from: thefunkybits on October 05, 2014, 02:28:49 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 05, 2014, 02:23:15 PM

Quote from: thefunkybits on October 05, 2014, 02:16:37 PM

It would be nice to see a retrace to 340 this week before the next leg down Cool

So you can dump your cheap coins on new buyers you mean?

no...so that prices stay low for a few more paychecks of mine

I would hate to see a dip to 200 in the next few days and miss the bottom

You want the whole Bitcoin economy to suffer, people losing money, people getting out just so you can 3 coins 50 bucks cheaper? You're joking right?

Cold hard anarcho-capitalism. It ain't pretty

Quote from: Tzupy on October 05, 2014, 03:16:25 PM

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 05, 2014, 03:10:55 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/tim-draper-says-banks-hugely-threatened-bitcoin/

Draper to save the day.

Tim Draper, the current biggest known BTC bagholder? Cheesy

He should slap his son silly for making him lose millions.
OTOH if he waits and buys more close to the bottom, that would be wise.

He puts a good face on Bitcoin. He looks like a big naive kid

Quote from: podyx on October 05, 2014, 04:03:25 PM

Quote from: heri on October 05, 2014, 04:02:03 PM

Some other whale should buy them all in one go.
Leave that guy staring at his screen.

If that would happen he would be like this:

WHO? WHAT? NO I CAN'T STOP YELLING... THAT'S JUST THE WAY I TALK

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 05, 2014, 09:13:40 PM

Quote from: podyx on October 05, 2014, 09:07:09 PM

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 05, 2014, 09:04:29 PM

Even if the wall were eaten, its just going to deplete the market of a huge chunk of money. If its fake? Well.. that seems unlikely considering they are old coins.

It's most likely somebody waiting for fiat to arrive at the exchange to buy more coins (it's fake)

Right, a guy who bought 40000 coins at $9-$11 and hasnt done anything but sell since is going to put a bunch of money in BTC now at $300? Get a grip.

What he said

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 05, 2014, 09:20:48 PM

Quote from: podyx on October 05, 2014, 09:16:16 PM

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 05, 2014, 09:13:40 PM

Quote from: podyx on October 05, 2014, 09:07:09 PM

Quote from: derpinheimer on October 05, 2014, 09:04:29 PM

Even if the wall were eaten, its just going to deplete the market of a huge chunk of money. If its fake? Well.. that seems unlikely considering they are old coins.

It's most likely somebody waiting for fiat to arrive at the exchange to buy more coins (it's fake)

Right, a guy who bought 40000 coins at $9-$11 and hasnt done anything but sell since is going to put a bunch of money in BTC now at $300? Get a grip.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/10/22212000/ngbbs4d0fde07b68f4.jpg[/img]

How do you know he bought at $9-$11?

This is their address:

https://blockchain.info/address/19Gt9VKmmyMpMHEv6dkf8ddwmwddoSoJ8w

Early adopter cashing out. Here comes the flood

Quote from: inca on October 05, 2014, 09:49:25 PM

Quote from: vuduchyld on October 05, 2014, 09:44:34 PM

Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp

So before I go to sleep.

What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?

Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?

Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.

Theories?

One of those sounds right

Quote from: uhoh on October 05, 2014, 10:03:59 PM

There's a premium that would need to be paid for someone to acquire 30K.. look at the USMS Auction. To show a 30K wall would be completely stupid unless, of course, it's just designed to scare people. It's working.

And yet nobody wants to buy it

Quote from: gentlemand on October 05, 2014, 10:06:08 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 05, 2014, 10:05:21 PM

Quote from: uhoh on October 05, 2014, 10:03:59 PM

There's a premium that would need to be paid for someone to acquire 30K.. look at the USMS Auction. To show a 30K wall would be completely stupid unless, of course, it's just designed to scare people. It's working.

And yet nobody wants to buy it

Folks with that kind of cash washing around are going to be very, very reluctant to send it to a bunch of teenagers in Slovenia.

hehe. true

Imagine it doesn't and he just sells it down the market

Quote from: edwardspitz on October 05, 2014, 11:03:09 PM

Quote from: Nemesis on October 05, 2014, 10:36:01 PM

more fun?

I own this market!

Soon you can have it all to yourself

^^

Poor Satoshi needs to dump now while there's still some honey left in teh pot! Someone send a smoke signal

Quote from: podyx on October 06, 2014, 01:51:32 AM

Bitcoin dumping sideways!

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on October 06, 2014, 01:57:31 AM

Quote from: pjviitas on October 06, 2014, 01:50:05 AM

I can't believe more people aren't worried about the exchanges...I mean if Bitcoin totally tanks I am thinking most of the exchanges out there will be taking the money and running.

I'd be worried about leaving BTC on Bitstamp right now ... the place is behaving like a sewer ... maybe that's what the WallWhale knows? He tried to move his 30k BTC out of Stamp and it got refused so he's moving as much as he can in fiat before the whole thing freezes everybody's funds up an "no more BTC for you!" time.

Would Stamp do that?

Quote from: KFR on October 06, 2014, 02:51:50 AM

Epic indeed. It's like the Berlin wall. You want to take a piece of it just as a souvenir. Wink

I was there™

Quote from: POM on October 06, 2014, 03:01:24 AM

Why is stamp stuck at $300? Huh

lol

"Stuck"

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 07, 2014, 01:06:03 AM

Quote from: TsuyokuNaritai on October 07, 2014, 12:43:49 AM

That manipulator at 350 thinks his wall is safe, we'll see.

LOL

Looks like someone mistook bullstud reality for some silly little Pollyanna beartard dream world.

Ooooh. The price is gonna drop right down to double digits so we can all buy cheap coins, just like people who discovered Bitcoin before this year.

Reality is refreshing, isn't it?

Don't count your chickens yet brothers...

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 07, 2014, 01:23:18 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 07, 2014, 01:19:15 AM

Don't count your chickens yet brothers...

No chicken counting here bro. We still have a long way to go.

Laughing at bears is easy though. They take themselves so seriously.

I wanted those cheap coins too.. Does that make me a bear? Tongue

Quote from: mah87 on October 08, 2014, 12:58:02 AM

adam, crypsty is adopting ripple are you change your mind finally ? or are you jsut waiting to miss ripple train ?

Ripple train, you say? Please continue

Confidence is at a low. Gavin could drop a pin and it'd spook people now

Edit: did you hear that?

The CEO of Bitcoin said something:O

Bitcoin finished crashing up, it seems we're having a losing day today after all

Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 11, 2014, 09:58:37 PM

Quote from: fonzie on October 11, 2014, 09:38:01 PM

Quote from: mah87 on October 11, 2014, 09:35:51 PM

Quote from: fonzie on October 11, 2014, 09:35:07 PM

Quote from: Tzupy on October 11, 2014, 09:26:40 PM

It's time to test those bid walls.

I´m pretty impressed that so far no one has sold a few into it.

ripple ripple ripple

Edit: How is Ripple doin btw, post some charts at least.

Ripple's great, just look at the amazing charts Grin

Epic belly flop. But how much worse can it get at this poing

Quote from: mah87 on October 11, 2014, 10:58:11 PM

By the way bitcoin is not more a store of value than ripple... seriously...

Bitcoin tends to appeal to techie druggy speculators and degenerate gambler types. What is Ripple's demographic?

Quote from: mah87 on October 11, 2014, 11:02:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 11, 2014, 11:01:30 PM

Quote from: mah87 on October 11, 2014, 10:58:11 PM

By the way bitcoin is not more a store of value than ripple... seriously...

Bitcoin tends to appeal to techie druggy speculators and degenerate gambler types. What is Ripple's demographic?

professionals

Ugh. No thank you Grin

Quote from: fonzie on October 11, 2014, 11:13:26 PM

Quote from: SkyValeey on October 11, 2014, 11:08:43 PM

Silly wall want to boost price when "natural" move would be correction below 350 imo.

Oh no that damn upwards manipulators is ruining the "real" price of BTC. aka "i sold/shorted too low and want to buy back".

Close your shorts or get raped you fools.

No kidding. It's like too many people lose now if we go moon

Quote from: stereotype on October 12, 2014, 09:42:36 AM

Quote from: edwardspitz on October 12, 2014, 09:21:41 AM

Quote from: Blitz on October 12, 2014, 08:57:38 AM

Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC

It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php

Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing?

aint that a taboo subject.

Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ?
Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress"

How is the subject of insider information in a totally unregulated market taboo? Unless it's next to a cartoon of Muhammad riding a skateboard or something

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Quote from: NotLambchop on October 12, 2014, 03:20:00 PM

^
What's bothering you, stereotype? You feel I'm giving folks here too much credit? Say it in words

What are your thoughts on exchanges using other peoples BTC to short the market?
Unregulated and transparent are different things. One is honest.

Yes stocks can be shorted the same way, except stocks are not generated every day (and can be effectively sold twice at market price due to shorting).

This is the bullshit the whales are exploiting. Get your BTC (all of it) off of BitFinex and other exchanges that allow for this. Overall the sell pressure is probably much higher than even shorts + naked shorts typically generate in the stock market.

i know bitcoin exchanges just turning BTC into another p&d stock! ...it seems Tongue

*watch!* lol

<speculation>
Yes. I believe someone has created a p&d bot and this is what we are seeing now. It might do another leg up or it might dump when it is done distributing. It is not running on Stamp as far as I can tell, but it is running on on Bitfinex and Huobi. It really kills the spirit because of the excessive dump it will take after it has completed it's cycle. After this volume and activity goes way down because everyone walks away in disbelief. I think it gauges sentiment by placing to walls close together (I'm totally guessing here). If the overall volume is high then the walls will be larger. Here it is:

This is taken from Bitfinex. When it reaches the end of the green line it will either pump further or dump. Anyone with an understanding of bots who care to comment on whether this is bot action or not?

</speculation>

most stockmarket players i know have have lost faith in upwards momentum ....wall street likes action up or down ...i'm thinking $100 is more likely than $1000 based on current sentiment ! Bitcoins value lies in its' usefulness!~ peeps i talked to who were moving 1000zzz of coins around in 2011 are laughing at my unending faith in this silk road/bmr currency! Cool

I agree. This will probably get worse before it gets better

Quote from: Thomas-s on October 12, 2014, 05:17:11 PM

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Quote from: criptix on October 12, 2014, 05:12:29 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 12, 2014, 05:10:48 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 12, 2014, 04:32:14 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 12, 2014, 04:22:30 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 12, 2014, 04:16:53 PM

...
I'Ve been saying this for days but everyone ignores it because they think people will just keep buying while they dump on them.
...

Worked well thus far. Why wait to make $1k in a year, when you can make $50 every week?

Most traders lose money and destroy Bitcoin in the process.
Traders are Bitcoin's cancer.

Sure. Got to have losers to have winners.
That said, today's winners are bigger, tougher and smarter than me. So for me, trading now is more like gambling. Minus hookers and blow.
I'm sure I'm not the only one accepting the fact that profiting from Bitcoin stopped being a sure thing. Like me, these people are cashing out & moving on to greener pastures.
...contributing to BTC's declining price.

Thats the sentiment we need to crash upwards Wink

That doesn't sound like despair yet...wait for it Cry

Really sounds like denial.
Oh boy

How smug will you be at $340? Or $240? Or ... Depends when you bought in. But this is a very bear market and everybody can see it

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 12, 2014, 07:15:21 PM

Quote from: Searing on October 12, 2014, 07:10:28 PM

...(then again i am a unicorn and rainbows kinda guy...so wtf do i know)

Sorry

Bitcoin. Where dreams wait to die.

Ouch

Meh. Infos are free.

http://vodly.to/watch-2752062-The-Rise-and-Rise-of-Bitcoin

Quote from: medialab101 on October 13, 2014, 10:47:14 AM

Quote from: tarmi on October 13, 2014, 10:42:07 AM

let me get this straight.

they are selling that movie but they also accept btc donations?

Cheesy

New paradigm. Legitimizing torrenting supported by BTC donations.

They can't endorse this because of their distributor agreements but it is implicitly understood that this is allowed and encouraged.

New paradigm is double dipping and fleecing n00bs? Lovely Cheesy

Apple is trying to eat our lunch

http://www.coindesk.com/apple-pay-threat-bitcoin/

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 13, 2014, 11:18:07 AM

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Quote from: ErisDiscordia on October 13, 2014, 11:10:10 AM

...
This is the future. Take your smartphone and pay for your groceries, tip your waiter, donate to your favorite artists and support worthy causes like the fight against disease and poverty. ...

We'll never have to put down our phone. Every 16-yr-old girl's dream!
Excelsior!

And all teenagers could get and send money without any bank account !!!

Better than sex!

I'm sure by that time teenage girls will accept bitcoin too Tongue

Quote from: wachtwoord on October 13, 2014, 11:37:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 13, 2014, 11:11:55 AM

Apple is trying to eat our lunch

http://www.coindesk.com/apple-pay-threat-bitcoin/

Lol, if he thinks Apple pay is a threat he should stop writing articles and start reading thinks because he's obviously lost.

It's not the sharpest article in the shed is it Cheesy

Why BTC-e always gotta be the bottom bitch? Huh

Quote from: Wekkel on October 13, 2014, 05:53:06 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 13, 2014, 05:27:05 PM

Quote from: Moria843 on October 13, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

All you Apple haters - are you jealous or afraid Huh

It's one thing to disagree, but there has to be a reason for the hate.

Apple haters? Here?

[...]

You can't connect it to a USB port of a PC without an overpriced proprietary cable.
[...]
you cant transfer files to the internal storage (no SD slot) without installing malware called iTunes and connecting to the internet.

You can't install any software (including free) without signing up for an Apple account, disclosing personal information and giving them a credit card number.

My Sony Xperia Z Ultra Android device [...] just plain works.

As a summary: either you OWN your device ... or not.

Yup

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 13, 2014, 05:54:09 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on October 13, 2014, 03:42:41 PM

...
I knew those dumb-ass Chinese weren't going to stop until they gave us back all our coins! I love it! We get a second shot at dirt cheap BTC!!

lol. Where do you get these? Tell me they're real Cheesy

Quote from: oldm8 on October 13, 2014, 06:03:17 PM

Quote from: WeltMaster on October 13, 2014, 05:29:33 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on October 13, 2014, 04:51:01 PM

Apparently the idiot ChiComs haven't mastered the art of this whole "buy low sell high" thing. LOL. Six months from now they'll be buying back at a huge loss. Three generations of Communism has turned the highest I.Q. people in the world (edit: except for Ashkenazi Jews) into morons.

>not realising Communism is a Jewish creation

goyim pls

Weltmaster
Your not Frank Weltner of Jew Watch per chance.

Eww. Racists should f*ck right off, if I may be so bold..

Quote from: fonzie on October 13, 2014, 07:42:24 PM

Quote from: oda.krell on October 13, 2014, 07:37:41 PM

Stamp's bid side is depleted (figuratively speaking). If you look at stamp's bid/ask over the last 24-48 hours, you'll see that a number of big buys correspond to big drops in bid/ask. In other words, Stamp is probably partially responsible that we're going up right now, by traders losing patience and pulling bids from the book to market buy, but now they're out of fuel somewhat.

Nice bearFUD, better cut your looose you troll.

That seems a little harsh Lips sealed

Quote from: Blitz on October 13, 2014, 08:25:40 PM

What sort of uptrend do you guys think would cause shroomsy to stop complaining about goddamn traders and dumpers? You think anything less than a perfectly linear rise would do it (straight line)? Huh

I vote for perfectly linear rise please

Quote from: spooderman on October 13, 2014, 08:45:37 PM

How do you download off the pirate bay? I only seem to be able to get .exe files which I'm not seriously gonna try and open.

You can just stream it here:

http://vodly.to/watch-2752062-The-Rise-and-Rise-of-Bitcoin

Quote from: Pala_00 on October 13, 2014, 08:54:05 PM

Quote from: fonzie on October 13, 2014, 08:49:13 PM

Quote from: Pala_00 on October 13, 2014, 08:46:38 PM

Big walls coming soon...

You guys are such pussies, oh no what are we going to do when a wall comes, oh no Bitcoin will die, oh no.

FUCK YOU . WE WILL EAT ALL OF THEM WALLS. WHEN THIS TRAINS STARTS THERES NOTHING THAT CAN STOP IT.
NO WALL BIG ENOUGH

I hope so.

Isn't difficulty set to change this month? (Sorry I'm still n00b)

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 13, 2014, 09:05:55 PM

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Quote from: stan.distortion on October 13, 2014, 07:51:55 PM

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11183060/The_Rise_and_Rise_of_Bitcoin_-_HD
https://blockchain.info/address/19xb2pAzyv7feFkBhbh3n3rtBJ9JPTufm

CCMF!!

The ending is very depressing (in my opinion anyway).

Why? Without giving too many spoilers.

The first parts are really euphoric (blindly optimistic, positive, fun, exponentially progressing...). Then you start to learn about how this all is a big wild roller coaster in both monetary and emotional aspects (prices fluctuate, companies rise and fall while they steal your money and/or BTC and seemingly good guys face jail time, prices crash again, etc, so basically 99.9% of the people lose something or other at the end: time, money, coins, spiritual happiness, positive future outlook..., sometimes all of these at once).
The ending shows how Bitcoin sucked out most the enthusiasm from a main subject of the documentary who was probably one of the very few true Bitcoin supporters who never seemed to gave up. For me, it seemed like he feels really empty now, like he already lost the hope and he just fails to admit it for himself and move on, he just got stuck with Bitcoin but without the spiritual or monetary benefits.

Ahh...
That order I didn't place 1-2 hours ago (because I were listening to Schiff) would be in the green already. Sad

Starting to feel like a real reversal to me.

Ah got it. Thanks.

I read Bitcoin: A Money-like Informational Commodity about a month ago. It was pretty bearish too I'd say

Quote from: fonzie on October 13, 2014, 09:12:17 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 13, 2014, 09:09:54 PM

My condolences if you are still short.

Didn´t you say that you put up new shorts yesterday? Changed your mind? Lol Wink

Even bulls are bears now. Isn't that depair yet?

Quote from: Scottsdale on October 13, 2014, 09:14:30 PM

How are ya'll able to see sell walls?

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/btcusd

Observe

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 13, 2014, 09:15:50 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 13, 2014, 09:14:51 PM

Quote from: fonzie on October 13, 2014, 09:12:17 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 13, 2014, 09:09:54 PM

My condolences if you are still short.

Didn´t you say that you put up new shorts yesterday? Changed your mind? Lol Wink

Even bulls are bears now. Isn't that depair yet?

What if I tould you some people are not bulls nor bears but trade what they have in front of them without bullshit?

Seems reasonable. What if I told you I just white-knuckle hodl all the time

Quote from: njcarlos on October 13, 2014, 09:21:37 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on October 13, 2014, 09:12:27 PM

do you guys believe we will see $275 again?
or should i better buy now before its to late? Undecided

because i had sold all my bitcoins at $300 Embarrassed

Possibly. I believe we will test $300 again because I believe the current price doesn't reflect true market sentiment. I believe some institution got their hands on some fresh sucker fiat to blow in attempts to stabilize the market. Whether it's $5 million or $50 million, I have no idea, but it's not unlimited that's what I do know. In any case, Buying at $400 after selling at $300 is not wise, you're trading on emotion. I believe we will see $350 again, and depending on how much fiat they pump in, maybe $300.

I agree

Quote from: fonzie on October 13, 2014, 09:50:54 PM

I guess at least 20 people will get robbed when they try to download that movie and instead somehow install a BTC wallet stealer...

Ironical

Quote from: Feri22 on October 13, 2014, 09:59:45 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on October 13, 2014, 09:50:08 PM

for all who have not read it yet
http://www.coindesk.com/apple-pay-threat-bitcoin/

$10 incoming!! Grin

I read it, don't care...what's next? Cool

Huobi wants to hit 2400:)

Quote from: medialab101 on October 13, 2014, 10:12:10 PM

Arbitrary number momentarily achieved !!!!

Something is happening!!!

Quote from: spooderman on October 13, 2014, 10:18:23 PM

Bitcorn!!!!!!!

I am glad you are the object of desire for a group of large mammals yet again.

Should be a staple of every diet:D

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 13, 2014, 10:50:40 PM

395 on Stamp Sad

Pump is over.

Go back home.

Try to rebuy your children and wife you sold because you thought bitcoin would goes to moon today.

I'd never sell my children for bitcoins..

Quote from: razorramon on October 13, 2014, 10:53:54 PM

Quote from: Patel on October 13, 2014, 10:50:05 PM

Quote from: razorramon on October 13, 2014, 10:44:45 PM

will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

Quote from: criptix on October 13, 2014, 10:59:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 13, 2014, 10:55:49 PM

Quote from: razorramon on October 13, 2014, 10:53:54 PM

Quote from: Patel on October 13, 2014, 10:50:05 PM

Quote from: razorramon on October 13, 2014, 10:44:45 PM

will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

they lend bitcoins to short

Ohhhh. Well there is the problem right there isn't it Angry

Quote from: vuduchyld on October 13, 2014, 11:31:54 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 13, 2014, 10:38:00 PM

Personally, I believe that bitcoin is NOT going to win in the short-term merely on it's payment system and low costs (though in the long run, bitcoin will provide a lot of competition regarding costs), and more savvy persons (like you and me and several other bullish-oriented posters in this thread) are going to realize that bitcoin holds much more value (than centralized systems, such as apple pay) because of its decentrailzation, flexibility and its store of value and we are NOT (hopefully) going to get distracted by mere ease of use framings... even though many of us alsolikely wished that BTC were easier to use in a variety of ways (yet we understand that ease of use will likely improve with time).

Totally agree

He's good at the analysis

Quote from: Odalv on October 14, 2014, 11:57:57 PM

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 14, 2014, 10:46:43 PM

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-researchers-find-bug-in-encryption-technology-report-2014-10-14

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102078872

The end of Bitcoin?

yes, bitcoin uses "SSL 3.0 protocols"

Should we panic at all?

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 15, 2014, 10:14:17 PM

Quote from: ImI on October 15, 2014, 09:33:36 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 15, 2014, 09:05:09 PM

Everyone ready for today's pump and dump? Remember, don't be that guy who buys at the top.

whats wrong with that? my first coins i bought at 50$ and that was indeed a new top. i was still buying when we hit 340$ and that was also a new top at that time.

You really have to ask that?
You somehow think Bitcoin was made for this? To be a pump and dump scheme?
And how do you think this looks for the outside world? For people who want to start using Bitcoin?

$400 was fun...

Never too early for massive dumps.

Quote from: medialab101 on October 16, 2014, 11:24:54 AM

What just happened Huh

IMO the incapacitated feline has lost its spring

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 16, 2014, 11:59:52 PM

everyone stfu the daily candle is about to solidify

and
there
it
goes

384. TodayIsABarndNewDay

That candle sucked

Quote from: mmitech on October 18, 2014, 03:33:20 PM

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Quote from: mmitech on October 18, 2014, 03:15:56 PM

don't worry, the future belongs to me and not because Bitcoin will be in it....

If that is indeed the case, why exactly are you spending your time here, on a Bitcoin forum?

Surely, if Bitcoin is destined to end up in the dustbin of history you could find more productive things to do with your time?

I wonder what mechanism could make it profitable for you to spend your (presumably) valuable time on the enthusiast forum of a doomed technology?

to rip cultist delusional tards like you before the whole things goes to 0, sure it will have a rise or two before we get to the real thing, which I doubt that will be Bitcoin..... the only difference between me and some pumpers here is I am honest about it, and I warn people and most of the time you keep insisting which makes the whole thing feels better, and I simply am not letting this chance of my hand... I will ride Bitcoin till the last profit chance before going down to 0.

Bro you seriously this down on the honeybadger??

Quote from: Richy_T on October 18, 2014, 03:52:12 PM

Quote from: mmitech on October 18, 2014, 10:09:43 AM

why a huge bid wall is never manipulation while a similar wall in the ask side is Always manipulation and conspiracy.... this forum is full of delusional idiots.

WTF? It's three posts since that was posted. No one has had a chance to say *anything*. Though who has been denying such things are manipulation anyway? I think a lot of eyes have been opened on the way down.

I would have +1 but I was eating breakfast

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 18, 2014, 06:11:26 PM

Quote from: cbeast on October 18, 2014, 08:38:39 AM

you do nothing but criticize and offer nothing constructive. Your criticisms are weak and add little to the discussion. If you can't contribute something constructive, then you aren't putting in much effort and are resting on your laurels.

It is hard to be "constructive" in a field that is chock full of wishful thinking, sales hype, and outright fraud.

When I started looking into bitcoin, last December, at first I tried to be helpful. If you were around, you may have seen the daily tabulations of exchange volumes, and various analyses, and some attempts at predicting the price. But eventually I stopped because I realized that (a) the little data that exists is incomplete, censored, and impossible to interpret, and (b) no one here wants to know the truth, they only want to hear that bitcoin is wonderful and growing and everything is going well.

For example, my tabulations of exchange volume were scoffed at because I insisted on including the volume of Huobi and OKCoin, that everybody claimed was "fake". There was no evidence of that (and no one asked how much of bitstamp's volume was just arbitrage), but folks just didn't like the notion that China was in control of the price. Even to this day, many bitcoiners talk and trade as if China does not exist (and are mystified when Western "great news" do not make a blip in the charts). And then I learned that there were other large exchanges in China besides those two, not shown in any Western site; so my percentages were all wrong -- in the "wrong" direction.

Most bitcoin entrepreneurs (like Sielbert, Matonis, the Winkles, etc.) will never admit that China exists. Can you imagine them saying: "By investing in our fund, you will tie the fate your lifetime savings to the collective mood of a few thousand amateur Chinese speculators. But don't worry, even if you lose all you money, we the fund managers will get to keep about 5% of what you invested."

+1

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 18, 2014, 06:36:15 PM

Quote from: Bagatell on October 18, 2014, 06:29:36 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 18, 2014, 06:25:20 PM

^ why feed?

I don't think he knows what they feed on.

How is that fair when everything he said is true?

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 19, 2014, 04:14:11 AM

I'm surprised there hasn't been a dump yet

Wait for it

I just had an epiphany. If bitcoin would just keep going up and stop going down we would have nothing to argue about. Is this a flaw in the code or something?

I wish people would stop using Ebola in the context of economics. It's unseemly and misleading at best

So how far down do we correct this time Huh

Quote from: mah87 on October 19, 2014, 11:54:29 PM

Quote from: jaberwock on October 19, 2014, 11:19:48 PM

All weekend it seems like we are about to rise and attack the 400's, but nothing so far.

If we not going up by monday, I doubt we have another way but down

we will, while bitcoin will touch 100$ ripple will touch 0.1$

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 20, 2014, 02:22:13 AM

https://twitter.com/wsculley

Recent tweets = gonna be huge and bullish as fuck. Don't cut your loose. Next 24 are crit. CCMF!

Cool

Twatter=exactly nothing. Geez dude

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 20, 2014, 02:37:00 AM

It is definitely not a pic suggesting that someone is dumping something.

I heard rumours about a massive Ripple dump...

Wink

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 20, 2014, 11:03:40 PM

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 20, 2014, 10:58:55 PM

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 20, 2014, 09:59:03 PM

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 20, 2014, 09:51:22 PM

I used apple pay today, if only bitcoin were so simple.

We are getting there slowly though

Sarcasm detector malfunctioning...But yeah what was simple about it?

I'm just hoping one day bitcoin apps are as easy as apple pay. I bought something from walgreens today by just putting my phone near the register, doesn't get any easier than that

i do that with paypass.

who cares

bitcoin isn't a convenience...

Agreed. And who wants to buy cheap shit even faster than they already do..

Quote from: rjp55 on October 20, 2014, 11:11:09 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 20, 2014, 11:08:22 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 20, 2014, 11:06:49 PM

bitcoin's next move determines my next move

this is taking forever MOVE already Cheesy

Safe bet it will be a dump. Plan accordingly people

There have been dumps. It recovers every time.

Like the time it dumped from $1200? Or the time it dumped from $600?

ok then

I've never put anyone on ignore. Some people think they are so shockingly intelligent that any dissenting opinions must almost certainly be wrong or malicious trolling. Those people make me sad mostly

Quote from: spooderman on October 20, 2014, 11:39:57 PM

Ever noticed how people continue to argue with other people after having ignored them?

Also, that's a pretty nice list you got there.

I don't think it's very nice Tongue

We need that gif of bitcoin crashing sideways

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 22, 2014, 09:07:28 PM

Quote from: brg444 on October 22, 2014, 08:56:10 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 22, 2014, 08:44:09 PM

Quote from: brg444 on October 22, 2014, 08:34:43 PM

...
One could suggest they are responsible for current price action.
...

One could, if one was really desperate.

You would know about desperation Wink

I do. This thread oozed it ever since the bubble popped.

Some of that ooze is mine:/

Me: Good morning, Bitcoin:D
Bitcoin: *dump dump dump dump* Oh, hi..

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 23, 2014, 12:04:15 PM

Quote from: inca on October 23, 2014, 11:55:09 AM

...
It is documented on this very thread that I bought in at 301 or thereabouts with a big tranche of cash. ...

It's also documented on this very thread that you were telling people to buy all the way down to 300. Lucky you yourself didn't have the $ to buy 'til that sell wall popped up, is all I'm saying

Somebody needs to keep these bulltards honest. Thank you NotLambchop

Quote from: hdbuck on October 23, 2014, 12:14:36 PM

Quote from: inca on October 23, 2014, 12:13:37 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 23, 2014, 12:08:00 PM

Somebody needs to keep these bulltards honest. Thank you NotLambchop

Thanks for the worthless commentary!

this whole thread is about worthless commentary. Grin

...I also like the pony memes:P

How are you still happy today? Cheesy

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 24, 2014, 02:23:06 AM

Ouch. Are you bulls at least learning something from all this?

I'm learning to smell the tulips I guess Undecided

Every morning a new dump to discover. Dammit

Quote from: Newbie1022 on October 24, 2014, 11:40:36 PM

http://fortune.com/2014/10/24/bitcoin-fraud-scam/

This. It is actually a decent commentary in that it calls out some scams but is supportive of blockchain technology. A bit vapid, but pretty practical and on point.

This is the bearest thing ever!

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:02:56 AM

Poloniex works for me...

Back on topic, if you take a look in bitcoinity there is less than 5k to 400$ on stamp. Few ask walls were removed.

If we see $400 again this weekend I'm divesting half my stash. I'm finished hodling

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:08:33 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 25, 2014, 12:06:35 AM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:02:56 AM

Poloniex works for me...

Back on topic, if you take a look in bitcoinity there is less than 5k to 400$ on stamp. Few ask walls were removed.

If we see $400 again this weekend I'm divesting half my stash. I'm finished hodling

Ok. I guess you will learn the hard way Grin

Just a bunch of early adopters bleeding n00bs dry on a grand scale. That's all I've seen

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:14:48 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 25, 2014, 12:10:25 AM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:08:33 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 25, 2014, 12:06:35 AM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 25, 2014, 12:02:56 AM

Poloniex works for me...

Back on topic, if you take a look in bitcoinity there is less than 5k to 400$ on stamp. Few ask walls were removed.

If we see $400 again this weekend I'm divesting half my stash. I'm finished hodling

Ok. I guess you will learn the hard way Grin

Just a bunch of early adopters bleeding n00bs dry on a grand scale. That's all I've seen

Yep... but I doubt they will do this again at 400$ levels. Maybe 500-600$.

I remember doubting they would all the way down. I bet you do too...

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 25, 2014, 12:22:54 AM

Here is a prediction.
It's not even a prediction, it's a guarantee. Everyone is waiting for the next rally. When that next rally happens as soon as we go up 20 or 30 bucks everyone here will absolutely totally fucking dump the shit out of the market to make 100 bucks profit, stop the rally and most likely take the price down again.

After that you will come right away here again and wonder why the rally stopped. Then the next 2 weeks you keep posting useless charts and discuss why we won't go up. And then the next rally starts and you repeat it all over again.

That's how fucking dumb traders are.

Traders make money. Hodlers sit on unrealized loss for 10 months

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 25, 2014, 12:31:38 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 25, 2014, 12:26:20 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 25, 2014, 12:22:54 AM

Here is a prediction.
It's not even a prediction, it's a guarantee. Everyone is waiting for the next rally. When that next rally happens as soon as we go up 20 or 30 bucks everyone here will absolutely totally fucking dump the shit out of the market to make 100 bucks profit, stop the rally and most likely take the price down again.

After that you will come right away here again and wonder why the rally stopped. Then the next 2 weeks you keep posting useless charts and discuss why we won't go up. And then the next rally starts and you repeat it all over again.

That's how fucking dumb traders are.

Traders make money. Hodlers sit on unrealized loss for 10 months

9 out 10 traders lose money.

So in retrospect we all should have sodl. Who knew

Quote from: riiiiising on October 25, 2014, 12:41:16 AM

Bitcoin is going nowhere but up. If you don't believe that, then you don't belong here and we don't want you here.

Cultist

The observers are quiet tonight...

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 25, 2014, 07:55:19 AM

Quote from: justusranvier on October 25, 2014, 02:12:30 AM

I buy bitcoins with a paycheck, and so I'd rather the price stay as low as possible so that I can keep adding to my savings.

Poor guy.

This is the big consolidation/denial phase, isn't it?

Quote from: cbeast on October 25, 2014, 08:22:07 AM

I'm no longer afraid of any price dump even though I'm still all in. I liquidated material assets I no longer wanted and will keep buying during these big dips.

Good luck!

Quote from: esse83 on October 25, 2014, 08:43:24 AM

Quote from: cbeast on October 25, 2014, 08:33:13 AM

Here's the thing. This is entirely rigged to suck out your coins cheap. Then they will sell your coins to their buddies and watch you panic buy. But there won't be any cheap coins then. I know how that sounds, but real life is just that idiotic and we now have the attention of people with no sense of fairness.

lol dumbass, keep telling yourself that lie.

He might be right, Mr. Personal Attacks

Quote from: cbeast on October 25, 2014, 12:31:19 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 25, 2014, 12:27:58 PM

Chinese yuan.

Get used to saying that if Bitcoin dies. China will claim to have defeated Bitcoin and will then point at the dollar. The USD will crumble faster than Bitcoin.

Sentiment among legendary members seems to be at an all time low, lower even than when we were stuck at $300. This was my sign to sodl

Quote from: tabnloz on October 25, 2014, 12:56:41 PM

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Quote from: cbeast on October 25, 2014, 12:31:19 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 25, 2014, 12:27:58 PM

Chinese yuan.

Get used to saying that if Bitcoin dies. China will claim to have defeated Bitcoin and will then point at the dollar. The USD will crumble faster than Bitcoin.

Sentiment among legendary members seems to be at an all time low, lower even than when we were stuck at $300. This was my sign to sodl

I think everyone is waiting for the regulations to come down. It is the elephant in the room (whether you agree with the reg concept or not).

Before that, while the stock market pushes up or the dollar does, then bitcoin will stay in a bear market.

Either way...the slow bleed was killing it. I still have an incidental amount. But I'm taking the 'Bitcoin is an experiment' approach a lot more seriously

Quote from: MICRO on October 25, 2014, 01:12:52 PM

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Quote from: Ivanhoe on October 25, 2014, 01:06:47 PM

Quote from: podyx on October 25, 2014, 01:04:04 PM

I'm considering to stop looking at the bitcoin price for the next few months but then I risk losing all money...
And miss opportunities to buy in low if I decide to do that.
This market really is a bitch man

You were quite young weren't you? This is good learning opportunity for you, just watch and ride it out. Forget about the profits you had for a moment and just watch this bear market. Better times will come, soon or not.

Sometimes things fail and die out. This is one of them. Give me one good reason why after 6 years (of which the last year was total shit) we suddenly will go up again. Why will things get better? It already failed.

Bitcoin did not fail even if its worth 1$ . Price doesn't matter.

And even if it does this is great price , bitcoin is still worth 344x more than dollar .

Bitcoin was touted as a store of value for more than the lucky few who bought in at a buck, dude

Quote from: cbeast on October 25, 2014, 01:22:11 PM

Quote from: opentoe on November 29, 2013, 05:39:54 AM

Who the heck is buying a bunch of bitcoin for over $1000 that Coinbase ran out of them?

From Coinbase:

"Note! We've exceeded our normal buy limits for today. If you would still like to purchase you will receive the market price of bitcoin on Thursday Dec 5, 2013 at 12:38AM EST after your funds have arrived. read more"

Expect these messages soon.

Just like gold. Daytarders monkey hammer it too low on paper and everybody suddenly refuses to sell the real deal. Hmm

Quote from: Newbie1022 on October 25, 2014, 06:45:23 PM

Stamp and Finex are both below BTC-e. This was precisely the make-up right before each flash crash. Will it happen, again. Time will tell.

BTC-e should never be above Stamp. I smell harbour

Up or down. Definitely

Quote from: Brewins on October 26, 2014, 12:29:29 AM

pool outdated.

You should add options up to 300 -

I doubt we will see above 350 by monday

Everybody needs some time to adjust mentally to the new price level

Quote from: MoreFun on October 26, 2014, 12:37:07 AM

Quote from: fonzie on October 26, 2014, 12:22:48 AM

If we just could get MtGox back as the market leader with 70-80% of the trading volume, things would be much easier. Grin

Mark to the rescue?

Mark helped us going from sub $1 to $1000 and without Mark we are now back at $300. So what is better having Mark onboard or not?

Roll Eyes

Not. Pudgy monkey did too much damage. He doesn't deserve Bitcoin

Bitfinex is going a little dump happy isn't it

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 26, 2014, 01:58:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 26, 2014, 01:55:14 AM

Bitfinex is going a little dump happy isn't it

~1K dumped in 10 mins

Why there specifically? Stamp got too compliant?

Quote from: aabtc on October 26, 2014, 02:12:24 AM

ah, bitcoin
https://blockchain.info/block-index/485183/00000000000000001b7be4e402d1745fcc437ca5faf635dce584c7a828c7d2fe
https://blockchain.info/address/1KryFUt9tXHvaoCYTNPbqpWPJKQ717YmL5

Those coins weren't even a year old

Quote from: Searing on October 26, 2014, 02:27:25 AM

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Quote from: adamstgBit on October 26, 2014, 01:53:49 AM

must resist urge to buy.

** Buys **

no! wait!

** Buys Again **

every time I buy BTC goes down at least $50 3 days later...beginning to think it is ME...sorry guys...best I not buy....the btc karma guys hate my ass

(besides you all will likely hunt me down if I continue such actions!)

so maybe I will just sit on hands for a bit....

*sitting on my hands for a bit*

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 26, 2014, 02:55:20 AM

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Quote from: Walsoraj on October 26, 2014, 02:37:56 AM

Quote from: aabtc on October 26, 2014, 02:12:24 AM

ah, bitcoin
https://blockchain.info/block-index/485183/00000000000000001b7be4e402d1745fcc437ca5faf635dce584c7a828c7d2fe
https://blockchain.info/address/1KryFUt9tXHvaoCYTNPbqpWPJKQ717YmL5

Some of the coins pass through 13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL, which has received over 600k. Anyone know if this address is associated with a mining pool, exchange or tumbling service?

Im super confused. How has this address never received coins?

it has? and lots.

Looks like an exchange or pool to me

Quote from: Sitting Bull on October 26, 2014, 11:22:03 AM

Why Coindesk says the price is $436??

http://www.coindesk.com/price/

Hackster probably?

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Quote from: tarmi on October 26, 2014, 12:05:52 PM

ok bulls, you need more bull FUD.

so far we got:

10 k buys in some remote places
435 on coindesk
the usual short story
ECB test

The Winklevosses have probably reactivated and migrated Willy, this time at Chinese instead of Japanese exchanges. Cheesy

The Coindesk price as far as I can tell is wrong. Nice jump for Sunday, but it's just an error. Business as usual boys.

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/lakebtc/USD

There is a legit buy at c-cex for 363. fwiw Cheesy

Quote from: mmitech on October 26, 2014, 12:24:49 PM

Quote from: Newbie1022 on October 26, 2014, 12:22:23 PM

The shorts turned themselves into a target. It isn't pure TA. It's... the shorts got carried away and are going to get burnt now. The question is whether the burn is slow or fast.

you know how many times I've heard this here ? lets see if it is different this time....

I sold some yesterday. You can bet we are going back up now

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 26, 2014, 12:27:22 PM

Shorters had all the time in the world to close their shorts in profit if their entry was good.

Hopefully this squeeze (almost 15k shorts finex) will go higher so I can get a better shorting opportunity.

Short is the new long or what. Sad times

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Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 26, 2014, 12:30:01 PM

A shit lot of banks failed the stress test, so let's put our money in a currency that lost 70% of it's value in less that a year!

Yay

The same currency gain 33 000 % over 5 years

But that has no guarantee of repeating such stunts, since the fiat required for similar pumps is now exponentially higher.

and we need Willy bots to smash up through zero volume again

Math hole

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 03:52:45 PM

Quote from: Patel on October 26, 2014, 03:26:27 PM

The Winklevoss are giving a keynote at Money 20/20 in a week.

Is it possible they may announce the ETF? Does the SEC publish public documents upon approval, or do they privately tell them it got approved? In other words, will we know when the Winklevoss know?

I'm pretty sure this somehow will turn into more dumping.

It will be known as the great Winkledump of 2015

Quote from: fonzie on October 26, 2014, 04:48:02 PM

In the meanwhile... Cheesy

This needs a meme lol

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Quote from: jonoiv on October 25, 2014, 01:37:28 PM

in 32 Hours the price according to my sources will be $377 (+/- 5) Cool

How is this working out for ya?

Pretty well...

so like i said 1am UK time we will hit 377 +/-5

2 more spikes, and by the time China is eating corn flakes, we'll be close to 377.

but don't hold me to exactly 1am. might be a few hours late.

you keep saying the same thing over and all over again, suppose you hit $377, then what ? why is $377 important to you ? what would this change?

it is $377, it is not like we are going to hit $600 or $800, I am pretty sure that even if you hit that (377) mark (which I really still doubt) this wouldn't change shit, because you always go $10 north and $20-30 south, and trade side ways till the next crash....

I still think that Bictoin Price is a bubble that will burst to pre-bubble price ($100-150), after that we will have a slow and boring growth.

Agreed. The bubble is just being toyed with now

Quote from: Cheeseonastick on October 26, 2014, 04:53:02 PM

Draper looks like a Vulcan.

These prices are highly illogical, captain

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Quote from: jonoiv on October 26, 2014, 05:01:53 PM

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You don't have to believe me.

You promised to stop posting if wrong... But don't leave until I had a chance to rub it in your face.
Again and again and again Cheesy

You are good at that Cheesy

Quote from: stan.distortion on October 26, 2014, 05:11:36 PM

So many bitcoin articles on the forex news sites its almost spam and all of them spouting doom and gloom speculoligy. The pro-bitcoin sites are nearly as bad, they'll be predicting bitcoin curing cancer next but at least they're wont be spamming it, the forex sites are putting out at least 5x the usual number of articles. Maybe someone on the internet wrote an unbiased article on bitcoin and they want to push it down the searches before it lays eggs :/ Maybe it was that titcoin article in Playboy

Most goldbugs I know are very happy to have been "proven right" about Bitcoin

It's a bad example Roll Eyes

Quote from: Ivanhoe on October 26, 2014, 05:32:07 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 26, 2014, 05:27:47 PM

Quote from: Ivanhoe on October 26, 2014, 05:18:42 PM

..."Telephones are a pain in the ass to use so why buy one?

If someone has a telephone then fine...its easy as hell to use...But the majority of people on the planet don't have telephones. "

Bitcoin is more like Ham radio in the age of cellphones. If everyone was a ham, there would be no need to pay the phone bill. A bit less convenient than the phone, but think of the benefits! Roll Eyes

Wow, you are like always online aren't you? Why did you stop with school boy?

Man what you got against Lambchop? It was a false analogy. It deserves to be torn down. And that was funny

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Quote from: pjviitas on October 26, 2014, 04:46:58 PM

The last time it was 377 was at 22:00 on 22Oct14...there is no chance that it will hit that in the next 5 hours.

I meant 1am UK time

thats 9 hours

Is my math broken again?

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Quote from: jonoiv on October 25, 2014, 01:37:28 PM

in 32 Hours the price according to my sources will be $377 (+/- 5) Cool

yea, your only "source" is being too much invested and shitting your pants because of that....pathetic.

Promise me you will re-quote this at 01:00am ( GMT - UTC) in the early hours of Monday morning. or Sunday night in the US

don't get hung up on the timing so much. I should have posted 36 - 37 hours. And I did say 1am UK time, several times.

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 26, 2014, 05:08:05 PM

Quote from: jonoiv on October 26, 2014, 05:01:53 PM

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You don't have to believe me.

You promised to stop posting if wrong... But don't leave until I had a chance to rub it in your face.
Again and again and again Cheesy

I said I would'nt post in the thread again if we drop to 330. (not including flash Silk-Road style crashes or individual mass dumps). If we hit 330 I will go away and never return. Cool

But we won't ever. 100% sure.

So not including dumps... Roll Eyes

Quote from: pjviitas on October 26, 2014, 05:42:47 PM

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Quote from: podyx on October 26, 2014, 04:31:55 PM

Quote from: jonoiv on October 25, 2014, 01:37:28 PM

in 32 Hours the price according to my sources will be $377 (+/- 5) Cool

How is this working out for ya?

Pretty well...

so like i said 1am UK time we will hit 377 +/-5

2 more spikes, and by the time China is eating corn flakes, we'll be close to 377.

but don't hold me to exactly 1am. might be a few hours late.

you keep saying the same thing over and all over again, suppose you hit $377, then what ? why is $377 important to you ? what would this change?

it is $377, it is not like we are going to hit $600 or $800, I am pretty sure that even if you hit that (377) mark (which I really still doubt) this wouldn't change shit, because you always go $10 north and $20-30 south, and trade side ways till the next crash....

I still think that Bictoin Price is a bubble that will burst to pre-bubble price ($100-150), after that we will have a slow and boring growth.

I don't know if 377 is exactly right

I don't know if my timing is right.

But I am sure of the direction. And i am sure 277 was the bottom and I am sure you'll never get to buy at sub 330 again.

You don't have to believe me.

Bitcoin is a pain in the ass to use so why invest in it?

If someone has Bitcoin then fine...its easy as hell to use...but the majority of people on the planet don't have any Bitcoin.

"Telephones are a pain in the ass to use so why buy one?

If someone has a telephone then fine...its easy as hell to use...But the majority of people on the planet don't have telephones. "

Seriously...your using a telephone as an ease of utilization example?

I'm using a analogy to explain the network effect to you, yes.

That's because the perceived value of a telephone has increased...saves the time and money required to travel somewhere to talk to someone.

There needs to be perceived value in order for the network effect to gather steam.

Please explain to me what the perceived value of Bitcoin is?

Gambling and drugs?

Gambling and drugs. Final answer

Quote from: xyzzy099 on October 26, 2014, 06:37:02 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 26, 2014, 06:13:15 PM

Quote from: Ivanhoe on October 26, 2014, 05:36:28 PM

...Mainstream use of phone started like that yes.... phone technology did not. There was lots of work in infrastructure first, what we now see in bitcoinland. I'm sure with bitcoin it won't take many decades, don"t you think?

Allright, Bitcoin is more useful than the telephone. And the people who got the first phones, the early adopter visionaries, all got filthy rich.

Hey Mr. notSockpuppet - just out of curiosity, are you Jeffrey Robinson IRL? A lot of the stuff you say about bitcoin sounds like him.

Maybe just a case of great minds thinking alike tho Roll Eyes

Tim Swanson said almost the same things months ago in The Anatomy of a Money-like Informational Commodity. The ideas aren't new

How does everyone feel about the B symbol with the two lines through the outside? Can we live with that as our logo?

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:29:57 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 26, 2014, 09:21:52 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: DonDev on October 26, 2014, 09:14:09 PM

The only reason why BTC will grow and increase in price is Anonymity. Each and everyday people are tired of showing ids and passports to banks to send money to someone or receive. With BTC its all cool and your anonymous what more is needed? BTC Can grow a lot more in developed countries with high tax rate and strict control. As people want to live free not in a cage. One of the reason Sweden loves bitcoin is this.

There are way better alt coins for that.

Altcoins

Since Bitcoin has failed and soon will be dead any other coin with better features can take its place.

Bitcoin got caught up in a speculative bubble. How is it dead?

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:39:18 PM

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: DonDev on October 26, 2014, 09:14:09 PM

The only reason why BTC will grow and increase in price is Anonymity. Each and everyday people are tired of showing ids and passports to banks to send money to someone or receive. With BTC its all cool and your anonymous what more is needed? BTC Can grow a lot more in developed countries with high tax rate and strict control. As people want to live free not in a cage. One of the reason Sweden loves bitcoin is this.

There are way better alt coins for that.

It does not have to be 100% privacy. It can just be something that is similar to cash: payment is visible for the receiver, but the identity of the payee is not necessarily known to the rest of the world (e.g., stored in a central system with access for government officials).

Yeah, there are better coins for that.
Bitcoin is just an outdated pump and dump coin.

I'm beginning to suspect you are either butthurt or trolling for profit. Hmm

I'm just being realistic.

There are lots of things you can do to make your bitcoin transactions private, apart from buying altcoins

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: DonDev on October 26, 2014, 09:14:09 PM

The only reason why BTC will grow and increase in price is Anonymity. Each and everyday people are tired of showing ids and passports to banks to send money to someone or receive. With BTC its all cool and your anonymous what more is needed? BTC Can grow a lot more in developed countries with high tax rate and strict control. As people want to live free not in a cage. One of the reason Sweden loves bitcoin is this.

There are way better alt coins for that.

It does not have to be 100% privacy. It can just be something that is similar to cash: payment is visible for the receiver, but the identity of the payee is not necessarily known to the rest of the world (e.g., stored in a central system with access for government officials).

Yeah, there are better coins for that.
Bitcoin is just an outdated pump and dump coin.

I'm beginning to suspect you are either butthurt or trolling for profit. Hmm

Trolling is a dangerous occupation this days, two years jail cant be fun
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989

Regarding your sig: rumour has it production cost is at about $280US (eg. KnC). Thoughts?

Quote from: hdbuck on October 26, 2014, 09:56:13 PM

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Quote from: Wekkel on October 26, 2014, 09:30:25 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 26, 2014, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: DonDev on October 26, 2014, 09:14:09 PM

The only reason why BTC will grow and increase in price is Anonymity. Each and everyday people are tired of showing ids and passports to banks to send money to someone or receive. With BTC its all cool and your anonymous what more is needed? BTC Can grow a lot more in developed countries with high tax rate and strict control. As people want to live free not in a cage. One of the reason Sweden loves bitcoin is this.

There are way better alt coins for that.

It does not have to be 100% privacy. It can just be something that is similar to cash: payment is visible for the receiver, but the identity of the payee is not necessarily known to the rest of the world (e.g., stored in a central system with access for government officials).

Yeah, there are better coins for that.
Bitcoin is just an outdated pump and dump coin.

I'm beginning to suspect you are either butthurt or trolling for profit. Hmm

Trolling is a dangerous occupation this days, two years jail cant be fun
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989

is it even trolling they are talking about?!

I call that stalking

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 26, 2014, 11:19:19 PM

Quote from: inca on October 26, 2014, 11:16:21 PM

Quote from: pjviitas on October 26, 2014, 05:42:47 PM

Please explain to me what the perceived value of Bitcoin is?

Other than being decentralised, frictionless, borderless, non counterfeitable, cryptographically secure and algorithmically scarce?

Like ~~Doge~~ clonecoin u mean?

Quote from: jonoiv on October 26, 2014, 11:46:27 PM

so...

large rally incoming. the next 2-3 hours will be nice to watch. get some popcorn.

10$ up followed by 20$ down? That kind of rally?

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Finally going up or nah Roll Eyes

going up, just slow progress

a very very slow movement, but what creates movement in bitcoin Huh

i still dont get it.

Nothing creates movement in bitcoin. The bitcoin simply is, and we are the ones that move.

I figure all the excitement will most likely happen in a week a half. The reason? I will be in India for two weeks on a mission trip with very little access to computers and no time to really go online at all. It will be an epic rally for sure! Cheesy

Good luck converting those evil Hindus to Christianity.

You might be happy to know I am not going to "convert" anyone. Mostly doing humanitarian work, putting in water wells in villages, hosting a medical camp with food and clothing for a village of people suffering from leprosy, visiting an orphanage and bringing clothing, food to a home for the elderly there. We are also hosting the first ever conference for Dalit women. These women will all be Christian already, so no "conversions." But my goal is to encourage them and tell them that they have value in the midst of a culture that does not always value women and especially the lowest women in the caste system.

Funny that Christians get condemned for being the ones paying their own way to go on trips like these. The world desperately needs compassion but compassion begins with the love God puts in our hearts for others I believe.

The population of India is around 2% Christian. Is the prerequisite of you helping someone in India that they are Christian? Seems weird that statistically the chance of you helping people who are all Christians in India is infinitesimally small. Religious discrimination?

Chance of helping 1 person in India and they are Christian. 1/50
Chance of helping 2 people in India and they are both Christian. 1/2500
Chance of helping 3 people in India and they are all Christian. 1/125000
Chance of helping 4 people in India and they are all Christian. 1/6250000
Chance of helping 5 people in India and they are all Christian. 1/312500000

Whoa. That's some math. I imagine she knows where to find the Christians lol

Quote from: Newar on October 27, 2014, 05:32:59 AM

Quote from: jonoiv on October 27, 2014, 03:03:19 AM

Ok so here it is...

sit back and watch the show

That went well...

It's pumping the wrong way on Huobi

Quote from: cbeast on October 27, 2014, 11:16:38 AM

Quote from: superresistant on October 27, 2014, 10:51:46 AM

What do you get from following Bitcoin price every minute ?

You have to understand that the next few hours are critical!

These walls are paper thin Cry

hard...to...observe

LOL

Just a wee dump...it's still good it's still good

Question: Is the whole world shorting bitcoin, or just bitcoiners?

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 28, 2014, 12:39:36 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 28, 2014, 12:38:25 AM

Question: Is the whole world shorting bitcoin, or just bitcoiners?

its the world Vs Bitcoiners

We need to all agree on a direction and stick to it Grin

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 28, 2014, 12:50:04 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on October 28, 2014, 12:45:48 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 28, 2014, 12:38:25 AM

Question: Is the whole world shorting bitcoin, or just bitcoiners?

I think only bitcoiners are crazy enough to deposit money into not reliable bitcoin exchanges.

Bitfinex is no EmptyGox.
They are legit.

True. And bitcoiners tend to avoid verification. Just a thought..

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 28, 2014, 01:03:40 AM

Bitches think I'm a perma-bear, but they don't know that long term (and I mean looooong term, I am open to BTC bullishness, but not now and not at current prices):

UBS CIO, fuckers:

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/10/27/ubs-cio-blockchain-technology-can-massively-simplify-banking/

“I believe – and this is my personal view – that blockchain technology will not only change the way we do payments but it will change the whole trading and settlement topic,” said Mr. Bussmann.
He believes that blockchain technology has potential to trigger “massive” simplification of banking processes and cost structure.
He said: “When somebody with a strong brand and security level establishes it as a reliable service, then the whole industry will follow. That is my personal prediction.”

Remember mofos, No Bitcoin -> No incentive to maintain the network -> No blockchain Cool

And now back to being a bear. Time to crash again, bitcoin Cool

They don't get it Grin

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 28, 2014, 01:37:11 AM

SEC investigating Bitcoin companies is all over Reddit. This is a bigger deal than most realize. The SEC can shut down exchanges for contributing to price manipulation or being willfully ignorant of such activity while profiting from it.

Dave's not here, man.. Grin

Three cheers for such going up taking place Cheesy

Please read:
Bitcoin: It’s the platform, not the currency, stupid!
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/02/15/bitcoin-platform-currency/1/

Which nailed it back in February.

Then realise this has happened before with radio, telecoms, the internet and other technology as Tim Wu's "The Master Switch" eloquently describes: the hegemony will strip "bitcoin" of all the useful components (eg blockchain technology) it needs to continue its control.

They get it...and they'll take it.
[/quote]

Seems plausible. But what can you strip away and still have?

Edit: Ripple

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 28, 2014, 01:48:24 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 28, 2014, 01:38:36 AM

Quote from: Walsoraj on October 28, 2014, 01:37:11 AM

SEC investigating Bitcoin companies is all over Reddit. This is a bigger deal than most realize. The SEC can shut down exchanges for contributing to price manipulation or being willfully ignorant of such activity while profiting from it.

Dave's not here, man.. Grin

Who is Dave?

No man, Dave's not here

Quote from: DaRude on October 28, 2014, 11:41:21 AM

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Quote from: Tzupy on October 28, 2014, 11:16:39 AM

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/senator-schumer-wants-crack-dark-net/

Fools.

Good luck shutting down future decentralized marketplaces like OpenBazaar lol

Next they'd want to stop illegal online file sharing, oh wait...

Quote from: TPN on October 28, 2014, 10:17:48 PM

Am I the only person who thinks bitcoin is too cheap? Fiat is getting turned into Bitcoins each salary I get, it doesn't matter if the price is 700$ or 300$ .

You might be the only one here who thinks price doesn't matter. Yes

Where's the dumping? Slow day

wtf

LOL

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 29, 2014, 12:20:25 AM

Quote from: mmitech on October 29, 2014, 12:14:42 AM

I am really surprised that some of you still give a shit about what shroomskit posts here, I thought it was obvious that the guy is the biggest troll around.

shroomskit's post are fucking hilarious why why why would you deprive yourself of such lolz?

+ he is an amazing counter indicator

Are some people actually paid to troll here??? I thought that was just bitcoin fantasy

Quote from: dakota neat on October 29, 2014, 11:19:51 AM

Sideways on low volume for a few days means it's dumping time on bitfinex. Probably revisiting 330s.

5 red candles in a row. Just lovely Roll Eyes

Quote from: mmitech on October 29, 2014, 11:34:36 AM

I just don't get it, it went $7 and you are complaining, what will you do when we hit sub $1xx ?

I have a very complicated trading strategy you couldn't possibly understand

Quote from: barbs on October 29, 2014, 10:10:10 PM

this is so ugly lol. Early adopters and bear whales you guys are total pricks.

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 29, 2014, 09:57:53 PM

So where are all those idiots who were cheering for cheap coins all those months?
I don't see your daily posts about how much you are buying anymore. What happened? You stopped "loading up on cheap coins"?

Some of us have loaded up so much that we have no more fiat to load up any more.

All that said, it is a great time to buy! With I had more fiat to throw in!!!

Blind faith.. wonder why you are attracted to that..

Lets be honest, you would say the same thing at any price level. I bet in a year you will utter the same sentiment when price is in the double digit range.

If you honestly believe that Bitcoin is revolutionary and will become used in a greater scale than used today, then yes, I would say it is a great time to buy. Only time will tell, but a year from now we could see prices stabilize at around $2500 or even $5000. Everyone will be saying the same things then that they are now. That "Bitcoin is going nowhere." That the price is going back to $100" and so on.

But if the price does end up stabilizing at $2500, the price of $350 today would be amazing wouldn't it? Even $1000 wouldn't look so bad. Wink

Onward Christian soldier Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Walsoraj on October 29, 2014, 10:28:33 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/satoshibet-no-longer-accepting-us-customers/

Cheesy

So Bitcoin is not a way for people to escape limitations.. I thought that was the cardinal reason to buy into the future.

edit: It will be interesting to see if the markets react to this.. if not that's kinda strange, no?

it is already reacting, it just needs more time.

The slow bleed will continue?

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Quote from: fonzie on October 29, 2014, 10:12:53 PM

Not even near 80$ Wink

Are you saying you bought in at 80 and are still hodling???

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 30, 2014, 12:11:19 AM

still buying.

Catching knives makes me feel alive

Quote from: Newbie1022 on October 30, 2014, 12:16:43 AM

Just bought 40 BTC... I figure, even if it crashes, I'll see this price again and at least slightly higher. Might as well make some money off this goofy s---. Will it go lower, probably. I don't care to get too cute and try to find the bottom or get caught up in an irrational buy rally.

You just dropped $13k on bitcoins Huh

This is getting ugly Cry

I wonder now what this place will be like at $240....

Quote from: empowering on October 30, 2014, 12:31:56 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 30, 2014, 12:29:57 PM

I wonder now what this place will be like at $240....

Hmmmm let me think 95% full of troll shit?

I'm saving my fiat. This thing has many more bleeding to do it seems. Awesome experiment Sad

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 30, 2014, 12:43:30 PM

...In the meantime, new low on china

LOL. Dammit

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Quote from: Walsoraj on October 30, 2014, 08:29:50 PM

Methinks we crash below $200 within 8 hours.

you thinks wrong

Yes.

What people overlook is that a price fall from $400 to $200 requires as much doom, gloom, hate, FUD, despair, bear-mania, as the entire fall from $800 to $400. Unless there is a breakdown of the Bitcoin protocol, it becomes exponentially harder for the price to collapse downward. There is a floor, and maybe $275 was it, and $333 the lowest retrace.

Are you sure? Are you sure one early adopter couldn't crash us down to $100? Because I think the math fits

Quote from: mmitech on October 30, 2014, 11:30:59 PM

We went from $365 to $335 and bulls were totally quiet, then the price go $10 up and retards are calling a bubble and reversal... just amazing.

Down $20, up $10 Roll Eyes

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 30, 2014, 11:40:25 PM

Quote from: BitAddict on October 30, 2014, 11:38:40 PM

This was all fake and manipulation. Look how now nothing is happening, not even 500 btc in the last hour in Bitfinex after 50k volume...

I could be wrong but this seems like a big red flag for me.
Why would you open a panic buying wall of 16k coins at $332 when it nearly was cracking? You will find the opposite reaction, people panic buying... So the whale probably did it to sell his coins.

the manipulation is REAL.

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Quote from: SkyValeey on October 30, 2014, 07:50:21 PM

Good bids @Bitfinex = ppl want to close shorts ASAP ? Grin

Total sum of active swaps 11,784.20 BTC

ehh, that´s not so good, it means that all buys(or a lot of them) in fact were actually shorts that have been closed...
We had about 18000+ before

So, some impatient traders closed their shorts on Bitfinex via rapid market buys rather than slow fishing?

I am really mad at them because they triggered my stop order just a few minutes before I could move the stop price lower as I planned. And now I need to figure out my next move instead of simply waiting for a dump party or to get "stopped" by a real rally. I think it could have been better for all of us if this didn't happen the way it did.

Aaaw you poor trader losing money. I feel so bad for you guys. It just isn't fair is it?

My loss was imaginary. My short was opened earlier. I just planned to close it even lower... So no...
I think it was bad because this kind of price pump won't have a lasting effect. So, people get over-exited about a trend reversal again but get a dump in their face.
1: The one whole closed the big shorts could have earned more
2: I could have earned more
3: overall for BTC: this was a fake pump but that short won't be there as a buffer during the next real dump
But I say that because I don't think it was an intentional price manipulation. However, it can be the case.

So this is what it feels like to be short squeezed. Sorry. But: HA!

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Quote from: arieq on October 31, 2014, 10:37:58 PM

It's gonna bounce extremely hard when we find our low, till then expect crashes to continue. A week or little more if it continues like this btc will be below 200. I guess the first miners are switching off now.

So you are predicting a 40% drop in the next week or so, after a 70% decline from the ATH? Good luck!

It could happen

Quote from: cbeast on November 01, 2014, 07:08:48 AM

Looks like rule of thirds is going to break. Down we go.

Gold broke scary ground today too. USD is pumping

Quote from: gizmoh on November 01, 2014, 08:03:32 AM

Sorry guys, i'm cutting my loose
keeping some ammo for $2xx ish, more and more probable now. Embarrassed

Another early adopter has found his exit. The feedback loop begins?

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Quote from: gizmoh on November 01, 2014, 08:03:32 AM

Sorry guys, i'm cutting my loose
keeping some ammo for $2xx ish, more and more probable now. Embarrassed

Another early adopter has found his exit. The feedback loop begins?

Nope because when it takes off, the boat won't wait for orders. Deals are already made to cut civilians out of the bitcoin buyer's club.

There is a pretty hefty premium to join

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Quote from: gizmoh on November 01, 2014, 08:03:32 AM

Sorry guys, i'm cutting my loose
keeping some ammo for $2xx ish, more and more probable now. Embarrassed

Another early adopter has found his exit. The feedback loop begins?

Nope, am a 'late' adopter bought between $160 to $240 in April 2013. But i trade actively Cheesy

But you are right, early adopters are going to cut some loose with a less than abysmal profit. There are handful 10k btc guys out there, feeling the heat of an evaporating fortune, and if we breach $266, blood is going to pour on the streets by end of year.
Industrial mining is milking USD out of the market, miners deserve some pain too Undecided

Wow. Very scary Halloween

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Quote from: inca on November 01, 2014, 01:38:39 PM

Told you

Time to turn the book-talking up to maximum short selling fleas!

Enjoy using my coins by the way, just remember to give back the interest..

Ya that's the spirit. Short it until double-digits. Masterpiece that

Bitcoin is a media joke until it hits some kind of bottom

Does anyone really doubt at this point a return to 275$?

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Quote from: dakota neat on November 01, 2014, 02:17:18 PM

The Winklevoss will look like dumb shits next week at Money 2020.

sure, they will look dumb as fuck for buying for 100 $ or less.

I'm sure they already look dumb as fuck. Isn't it

Not dumber than you

That was uncalled for

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Quote from: dakota neat on November 01, 2014, 02:17:18 PM

The Winklevoss will look like dumb shits next week at Money 2020.

sure, they will look dumb as fuck for buying for 100 $ or less.

I'm sure they already look dumb as fuck. Isn't it

Not dumber than you

That was uncalled for

Sorry, wasn't that the point of this thread?

Ya

I forgot. We need walls to observe or else we start biting eachother

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 01, 2014, 02:11:15 PM

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I'm being fisted by a bunch of geeky early adopters of a disruptive technology...I guess Embarrassed

May have been the case before early 2013. Now bigger, smarter, girthier kids are providing the surprise buttsecs.

There is way more money in it for them to rally the price higher yet again than crashing the market into the floor. Hundreds of millions of VC money, infrastructure, rising user numbers, potential ETF to draw in investment capital. It's really a matter of when we go up. There is too much money to be made in this space for us not to mount another bubble or three. I still think this is all a distribution phase prior to the next run up. Unless we smash below the previous ATH on heavy volume, bitcoin days destroyed goes berzerk, or the black swan - the US comes out and bans bitcoin.

I'm going with this.

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To me it's not about getting more fiat.

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I also like that they can't take it away with a press off a button.

>trades on exchanges

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I can instantly pay somebody, yes I know a credit card is semi instant, but my mother, father, sister, brother, friends, ... don't accept creditcard, neither do I, and if I go and deposit large amounts of cash they think I'm a drugs dealer.

Most of my friends don't even know about Bitcoin. And thanks to this shit, I'm not telling them because embarrassed.

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Going somewhere in the world doesn't matter where... and they all accept BTC... would be ideal.

Forget the world. No one in my own neighborhood takes Bitcoin.

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And since it's quite hard to store a lot of gold, hey BTC it is.

Gold is even more archaic/anachronistic than Bitcoin.

LOL, oh my god, do you really think that you are right on all of those, just because your get rich quick scheme didn't work out fast enough.
You're a joke.

PS: go join Shroomie in the "my get rich quick scheme didn't go fast enough, shall go cry some now"

To be fair, nobody was sold on the whole get poor scheme, either. Look at the year, man!

Gold

Quote from: SkyValeey on November 01, 2014, 03:30:01 PM

fuck fonsie, fuck shromie etc etc trolls. Let's talk about BTC.

Double bottom is too simple, I think below 275$ is more possible than double bottom.

I like scenario with analogy with May 2014.

IMO $300 was the floor for the year. But who knows at this point.

Quote from: Protagonus on November 01, 2014, 03:36:21 PM

Hey sorry to jump in on you guys here. It's been a minute since I've checked in on the whole BTC world here on the forum. I've been watching prices every so often this year and I'm curious about something.

I know that China is still on the out's and saw that Russia is gonna also jump on that train; but otherwise it seems like decent prospects this year with casinos, hotels, airlines, ebay and such.
--Is there some other big news this year I may have missed?

I notice with the sells that have been happening during these last couple BTC lows and I wonder..........(serious question)......

I take it that the MtGox plan to sell their coins and bring BTC to 100.00 is still in place? Huh

I'm only assuming its' still in place, since they did hit the "planned" 1200 target and no coins have been recovered along with no news that I can find.

Anyone agree "the plan" is still going on from them?

Thanks and sorry to butt in.

Someone is consistantly selling stolen coins on BTC-E by the looks of things. That might end one day...

Quote from: exocytosis on November 01, 2014, 03:43:21 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 01, 2014, 03:38:51 PM

Someone is consistantly selling stolen coins on BTC-E by the looks of things.

That someone is Mark Karpeles. And probably lots of other crooks and whales.

MagicalTux wandered into Bittrex trollbox about 6 months ago tossing altcoins around. True story

Equestria [local currency=Bits]

Edit: They have the pony

Quote from: chairforce1 on November 01, 2014, 07:16:29 PM

Can we crash through $266 and get this over with? This as boring as watching a leaf fall from a tree. And I want "^{dem cheap coinz}"

Slow bleeds only. Sorry

Dropping like a stone Roll Eyes

Quote from: fonsie on November 01, 2014, 07:44:00 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 01, 2014, 07:43:09 PM

Dropping like a stone Roll Eyes

Like some small pebbles you mean.

Gravity tends to not discrimintate

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But why would they decide to spend money on a long-term pump when they have the shorting bonanza of legends right now for free?

On the other hand, with all the VC money flowing into bitcoin why don´t any of these entrepreneurs do anything to stabilize the price of bitcoin? They sort of depend on bitcoin being an attractive proposition.

Just look at the pump from 300- to 400+, why they did that? Profit. You may think they are net buying during a pump but that is seldom the case. Regarding venture capitalists, most of them are rich kids that will lose all the money their dad has hard-earned during a lifetime. Some of them get lucky, once in a while, but that is all. Do not count on them stabilizing the price.

And now we are back to ≈$300 and peering into the abyss. What could result in bitcoin not plummeting every time it climbs a bit? I understand speculators manipulate the market quite fiercely, but a pump without some new influence on the fundamentals would have to be a bubble, even if it´s from $10 to $100. What would make anyone here honestly believe we where heading up?

We need some news , good news . Paypal is one of them Wink

.

But Paypal is here, it didn´t help. I thought it would. But it didn´t. That´s what makes me worried. If it behaved like a share it should have gone consistently up after such an announcement. If it behaved like a currency it certainly shouldn´t plummit like it does now. If someone wanted to make money it would surely be worthwhile to pump that news to heaven and back, but it just plummited. I would imagine an adoption wave would make XBT prices rise, but who would adopt a digital currency that halves in value in a matter of days. This is not a rhetorical question, I want to know!

Degenerate gamblers?

.... Grin

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Quote from: Cheeseonastick on November 01, 2014, 09:56:57 PM

Ignoring people because they have different opinions than yours is the reason you holders are losing money every day, while people like me who are able to consider other peoples points of view cut their losses long ago.

I'll be listening for the butthurt to ratchet up a notch once we get sub 300. Shouldn't be long now. This train is off the rails.

It's impossible to lose money if you don't sell.

They already cut there losses, thats why they are so defencive. If you keep going at it, you can push every single one of them into a corner and they all squeal like a pig, admitting defeat and confessing that they lost money. Now they are just hoping to buy back lower.

That won't be difficult Sad

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Quote from: Cheeseonastick on November 01, 2014, 09:56:57 PM

Ignoring people because they have different opinions than yours is the reason you holders are losing money every day, while people like me who are able to consider other peoples points of view cut their losses long ago.

I'll be listening for the butthurt to ratchet up a notch once we get sub 300. Shouldn't be long now. This train is off the rails.

It's impossible to lose money if you don't sell.

That argument is usually used by gamblers. Even if you don't sell, what matters is how much that bitcoins are worth now compared when you bought. So if you bought higher you are losing money. The past is over and you don't know what will happen in the future, the only thing that counts is the present.

Yes. It's called unrealized loss.

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Quote from: BitAddict on November 02, 2014, 01:02:35 AM

What?
Are you telling me if Satoshi comes and dumps off exchange 1 million bitcoins would be bullish for the price because lot of people would be buying?

When you sell something in the other side there is a buyer... that's granted. But what matters is sellers to buyers ratio. If you have more sellers price go down...
That's pretty simple, dude...

That would be like the equivalent of the end of Mt Gox. It would remove the Sword of Damocles and confidence would boom. That one million bitcoins would be eaten like chow in a mess hall.

I always wondered why the private keys to those coins weren't destroyed. That would have boosted confidence I imagine

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 02, 2014, 01:42:25 AM

There have been many things "backed by nothing" that were highly prized and profitable -- for a while.

Like fiat money? Um, no: that is backed by the monopoly of violence. Even that works for a while.

What does it mean "backed by"? What is gold backed by, the promise someone made the effort to find it?

Good point/question

The whole world is dumping gold. Bitcoin standing up ok

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Quote from: molecular on November 02, 2014, 01:49:58 PM

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Frighteningly accurate.

LOL

We lose $100 million in market cap every day. How long can this continue.

Rhetorical Question

This thread is a soap opera

Quote from: spooderman on November 03, 2014, 02:23:34 AM

2014 sucked!

2015 is critical.

The future will be critical

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Quote from: spooderman on November 03, 2014, 02:43:10 AM

seems to be a decent amount of buying coming in anticipation of this week.

Most likely another pump and dump before we go down even lower. Like the last 20 times.

The future will not always be like the past. It might get a little critical tbh

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Quote from: WiiD on November 03, 2014, 11:59:32 PM

For a guy using shrooms, you are really impatient. It is all part of the game.

Again, i don't use drugs.

Shrooms aren't drugs. Shrooms are herbs or vegetables.

Heroin, tylenol, crystal meth, prozac, crack cocaine, etc are drugs.

Yeah whatever. I'm not here to discuss what drugs is.
I don't use mushrooms.

Maybe you should try some shrooms then? Might mellow you out Cheesy

I'm mellow as fuck.

Gold

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 04, 2014, 12:57:48 AM

FTC appointed receiver is to convert ~24'000 BTC seized from BFL (and EMC?) to cash "on a systematic and reasoned basis"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg9427254#msg9427254

Bitcoin doesn't seem to respond particularly to "news" or "things happening".

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Quote from: spooderman on November 03, 2014, 11:15:41 PM

finally could get a chance at my 270 coins

Cheap coins dude! Cheap coins! Finally!
And after you got your cheap coins we magically go up!

No spooderman, wait for $120 coins! On second thought, just wait for $85 coins!

Yep, I'm sure we'll get there, and then Shroomie is right --- we'll just magically start rising from there! Because magical rises always start to happen after a market has been completely devastated for a solid year. Right? Riiight???

At 270 he will start praying for 220 coins because by then 270 is expensive. This shit just never stops. 6 years in, worst year so far, Bitcoin is doing extremely bad and he hopes we go down even more so he can save 200 bucks on buying a few coins.
People like him just really don't get it. They really have no idea what's going on.

For a guy using shrooms, you are really impatient. It is all part of the game.

Again, i don't use drugs. This was not my original account.

What was the point in buying an account?

To troll

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Quote from: spooderman on November 03, 2014, 11:15:41 PM

finally could get a chance at my 270 coins

Cheap coins dude! Cheap coins! Finally!
And after you got your cheap coins we magically go up!

No spooderman, wait for $120 coins! On second thought, just wait for $85 coins!

Yep, I'm sure we'll get there, and then Shroomie is right --- we'll just magically start rising from there! Because magical rises always start to happen after a market has been completely devastated for a solid year. Right? Riiight???

At 270 he will start praying for 220 coins because by then 270 is expensive. This shit just never stops. 6 years in, worst year so far, Bitcoin is doing extremely bad and he hopes we go down even more so he can save 200 bucks on buying a few coins.
People like him just really don't get it. They really have no idea what's going on.

For a guy using shrooms, you are really impatient. It is all part of the game.

Again, i don't use drugs. This was not my original account.

Legit: U don't use coffee, cola, tea, cigarettes, bear? U don't use poppy,

Too far: parsley, nutmeg, dark chocolate, pepper, chilli, ginger, vanilla, anise, cardamome, garlic, rosemary, sage?
All of them are drugs and have effects on your brain. If you don't believe me, use google or ask a intelligent doctor.
U should really use shrooms, because you will be way more patient after that. LOL

Everything we do, see, eat, smell, feel are all inputs to our brain and they all cause an output. If you are simply defining anything that effects your brain as a drug, then every single thing in this entire world is a drug and since that has no exclusion criteria, it thus would make that term useless.

Dude. Your sig is enormous!

Such sudden trolling. Wow.

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 04, 2014, 02:11:23 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 04, 2014, 12:57:48 AM

FTC appointed receiver is to convert ~24'000 BTC seized from BFL (and EMC?) to cash "on a systematic and reasoned basis"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg9427254#msg9427254

It is interesting how much of an impact market selling, or merely flashing an ask, less than 7 days worth of mined coins would likely have on the price.

But, I doubt they will be flashed or dumped on an exchange. My guess is otc or gradually through a payment processor like coinbase, which will in turn sell on an exchange.

Slow bleed. More slow bleed. I can see it

Or that. I can see that too

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 05, 2014, 12:26:31 AM

This is bullshit manipulation by some Willy-wannabe. It won't last.

Translation: This is bullish as fuck!

Grin

Quote from: oda.krell on November 06, 2014, 12:24:55 PM

Quote from: spooderman on November 06, 2014, 12:07:50 PM

Now can everyone stop feeding this cunt please?

No. He's stubbornly wrong, but polite and intelligent (though misguided) in his arguments. If this community cannot tolerate that much dissent, it'd be too pathetic to be true.

+1

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Quote from: MrPiggles on November 07, 2014, 04:07:38 AM

jesus fuckin christ, has anyone read the criminal complaint against SR2 yet? The guy rented the server using his personal gmail and didn't even use a VPN to log in

what the titty fucking christ, are they serious

Why did it take them so long to shut it down? Seems like that would have been an easy bust. Unless they were allowing it to thrive for a while to get some data gathering on people who use it...

1. waiting for 1 year from sr2 launch, makes for a good anniversary surprise
2. BTC prices lower than most of the past year = more coins for FBI
3. They busted it mid October and have been running a honey pot ever since.

The government is slowly sapping degens of bitcoins and selling them to the suits Roll Eyes

Quote from: hdbuck on November 07, 2014, 07:54:59 AM

FBI dump incoming? Grin

They should pump some fiat into it first Wink

Hey: way to bleed off the week's gains there, Bitcoin Roll Eyes

Quote from: shmadz on November 08, 2014, 01:46:04 AM

2 chartbuddy's in a row is a signal for a new topic.

I propose we talk about the strange way that the Blockchain was built so that block having would occur approximately every four years. Coincidentally roughly matching the election cycle of a certain country.

Every four Bticoin-years is critical?

Quote from: MrPiggles on November 08, 2014, 02:02:48 AM

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 07, 2014, 01:21:13 PM

Quote from: spiderbrain on November 07, 2014, 01:15:26 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 07, 2014, 01:12:57 PM

"foreign law enforcement authorities" imaged the Silk Road 2.0 server on May 30—which means the site was allowed to continue to operate for five more months while the FBI, HSI, and partner law enforcement organizations gathered data.[/b]"

That's wise of them to have done that, why should that surprise anyone?

Nah, just people here bragging about still using Agora because its "working just fine." Unbelievable fail Roll Eyes

Agora has never once been hacked, just like it's sister site bitcoinfog. It's pretty clear they're on another level to Silkroad, got hacked twice, makes public statements taunting the FBI etc etc

Give the politicians their empty win. They won the war on dark markets Grin

Quote from: MrPiggles on November 08, 2014, 02:09:12 AM

besides lampchop, if you really think that they beat anyone, that they really damaged the darknet movement at all by taking out some ass hat who no one took seriously for the past year.

A guy who loudly beat his chest about "having the best OPSEC in history" whilst posting pics of pigs in San Francisco on his instagram and tweeting about silkroad, who handed the KEYS to his admin panel to an FBI agent, who posted screenshots of his bitcoin balance and cashed out his bitcoins via coinbase in his real name whilst renting the server with his blake@benthall.net email address, then you are retarded.

If you really think the fact they managed to catch him means *anything* at all to the movement as a whole, then you are clueless.

I'm just amazed it took them a whole 12 months.

It's a good thing, at least they're weeding out the amateurs.

Nope. Very saracasm

Quote from: byronbb on November 08, 2014, 02:39:12 AM

Quote from: MrPiggles on November 08, 2014, 02:09:12 AM

besides lampchop, if you really think that they beat anyone, that they really damaged the darknet movement at all by taking out some ass hat who no one took seriously for the past year.

A guy who loudly beat his chest about "having the best OPSEC in history" whilst posting pics of pigs in San Francisco on his instagram and tweeting about silkroad, who handed the KEYS to his admin panel to an FBI agent, who posted screenshots of his bitcoin balance and cashed out his bitcoins via coinbase in his real name whilst renting the server with his blake@benthall.net email address, then you are retarded.

If you really think the fact they managed to catch him means *anything* at all to the movement as a whole, then you are clueless.

I'm just amazed it took them a whole 12 months.

It's a good thing, at least they're weeding out the amateurs.

Wow incredible to think you would run such a site and be so careless. And to run it from the US too is just comical. Eventually the drug-cartel/gangs will set-up shop and amateur hour will be over. Selling wholesale product at street level prices with limited risk = no brainer.

It was a perfect storm of carelessness to be sure. Let the suits claim success. No big deal if you ask me

Quote from: Blitz on November 09, 2014, 12:18:38 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 09, 2014, 12:12:17 AM

Quote from: Blitz on November 08, 2014, 11:36:52 PM

You guys realize people bought 30k BTC @300 on Bitstamp within 24h? To me, evidence is needed to tell that this support should fall, especially when we have had declining selling volume off 418 to 315, which represents a higher low that just shouldn't happen if the bearish momentum was there. This is in addition to the declining asks and rising bid sums.

I have been warning for over a month and harvested only insults and disbelief: that 5th of October was likely a mid term bottom (that much is clear now) and possibly even a long term bottom.

I thought it was obvious to us the bearwhale just ate his own coins. No?

No, the ask was up for many hours, there were many buys and Bitstamp was much lower than other exchanges providing an arbitrage opportunity. It's highly unlikely most of it was bought by the seller himself.

I don't get it. If it wasn't manipulation, if some whale really wanted out, he could have just bled the coins back into the market slowly...

Granted this is my first year, but isn't Bitcoin crashing the wrong way?

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 10, 2014, 10:00:45 PM

LMAO

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 10, 2014, 10:59:55 PM

Quote from: Newbie1022 on November 10, 2014, 10:58:52 PM

You're all f---ing dead and you don't even know it, yet. Calling it... we don't get higher than $395 on this rally and we may have already seen the top. Back down to the low, low 300s. The bears haven't even placed most of their reserved shorts on the market, yet. This is going to get ugly.

So what you're really saying is this is a trap-trap trap?

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on November 10, 2014, 11:04:46 PM

Quote from: Newbie1022 on November 10, 2014, 10:58:52 PM

You're all f---ing dead and you don't even know it, yet.

I guess you're right: BTC will go to 1 million each -just enough for a loaf of bread. But then there won't be any bread since survivors will just eat each other with no trading needed.

-

Market Cap keeps getting bigger. I think someone was trying to buy up coins last night, and there was some upward slippage?

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on November 10, 2014, 11:09:24 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 10, 2014, 11:06:07 PM

-

(that's how 'civilizations' used to die, and sometimes how failed states ends)

Who is preparing for THAT??

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 11, 2014, 02:06:07 AM

Quote from: dwdoc on November 11, 2014, 01:49:26 AM

Department of Financial Services superintendent, Benjamin Lawsky, who has been leading the charge in an effort to regulate bitcoin, is reportedly resigning from his position in early 2015!

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-regulator-benjamin-lawsky-resign-nydfs/

how do we ChangeTip Lawsky for doing the right thing and resigning?

Hehe. Spare change

Quote from: justusranvier on November 11, 2014, 02:21:49 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 11, 2014, 02:06:07 AM

Quote from: dwdoc on November 11, 2014, 01:49:26 AM

Department of Financial Services superintendent, Benjamin Lawsky, who has been leading the charge in an effort to regulate bitcoin, is reportedly resigning from his position in early 2015!

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-regulator-benjamin-lawsky-resign-nydfs/

how do we ChangeTip Lawsky for doing the right thing and resigning?

How do we know he's doing the right thing?

I would not be surprised if his next career move is into the Bitcoin space somehow. It would fit the modus operandi:

1: Create a massive problem as a bureaucrat
2: Sell your amelioration services in the private sector
3: Profit

A trap-trap trap. Heavy

Quote from: fishpants on November 12, 2014, 12:30:00 AM

does this look like okcoin support, noob?

do something useful and post some rocket pictures.

lol

Quote from: hyphymikey on November 12, 2014, 02:42:01 AM

Quote from: janos666 on November 12, 2014, 02:28:51 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on November 12, 2014, 02:24:37 AM

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 12, 2014, 01:37:04 AM

Also anyone else listen to the okcoin dude on some internet radio/podcast posted on /r/bitcoin.

3 billion euro hedge fund trading on their exchange he claims.

Yeah they picked that exchange so they can short

LOL. With 3:1 margin they can extract 9 Billion ... out of a virtually 8 Billion market (which is far smaller in reality...). Now, that would be something! Cheesy

-> You can't possibly need that much money for shorting Bitcoin. Unless you fear somebody has even more for pumping.

What hedge fund uses their entire 3 billion on bitcoin? They are probably only putting 1% of their 3 billion euro into bitcoin. Nobody said they came to the exchange with 3 billion euro. LMAO!

Like a game of broken telephone hah

Quote from: mah87 on November 13, 2014, 12:49:01 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 13, 2014, 12:02:38 AM

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 12, 2014, 11:34:23 PM

Also: "I am an avid supporter of Ripple and encourage everyone to invest their life savings in XRP." -Jorge Stolfi

Quote is from a few days ago. I'm unable to find the post, but I assure you it existed.

You are misquoting me, I don't give investment advice. I said only that I have converted the entirety of my bitcoin holdings to XRP. And I am still doubling them every day.

(The first mention of bitcoin I saw was Falkvinge tweeting, last November: "I give no investment advice, but I am putiing all my savings into bitcoin". Which he kept at MtGOX.)

ooooh so it seems everyone is starting to change his mind now ?? Ripple is the future, I repeated it over and over, people just don't get it ! =)

Ripple is the what now Huh

Quote from: noobtrader on November 13, 2014, 02:12:38 AM

Quote from: jatajuta on November 13, 2014, 12:51:33 AM

Quote from: fabrizio123 on November 13, 2014, 12:42:02 AM

WTF is happening? Huh

? china is crazy, i don't know what to do, and i need to sleep

Chill, the fun hasn't even started.

we are at the first sell off stages !!!

Love the new graph Wink

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 13, 2014, 11:19:03 AM

It still wouldn't surprise me if the idiot dumpers would take us right back to 330.
I can totally see it happen.

It's unhappening:(

Just a healthy $40 pullback Roll Eyes

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 13, 2014, 11:56:42 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 13, 2014, 11:19:03 AM

idiot dumpers

I learned, from an unimpeachable source, that in Beijing there is a school of English that caters specifically to bitcoin traders. Every day, as homework, the students are required to dump enough bitcoins to cause the price to crash, and then copy and translate all the insults, expletives, and obscenities that appear on this thread.

Grin

LOL

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 13, 2014, 05:31:56 PM

Quote from: Patel on November 13, 2014, 05:29:39 PM

Healthy dump

We're down 50 dollars since last night and the buying pressure completely stopped. Nothing healthy about it.

"FIRE!!"

USD seems to be pumping at the moment. No one be alarmed

Quote from: Gatekeeper on November 13, 2014, 05:59:28 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 13, 2014, 05:56:50 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 13, 2014, 05:52:09 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 13, 2014, 05:46:50 PM

There is nothing failed about this rally thus far...

So n00b. So fresh. So innocent. Surely the bears won't surprise buttsecs him?

Wait and see, let them dump it out of their system.

BTW, if you want to offend me please find something more colourful than n00b. I can think of something for you as I am scratching one right now.

just put him on ignore like every other person on the forum has.

I'm a permabull desperate for cheap coins. I suspect he is a very good troll and that this works sometimes. Nothing else makes sense

Quote from: superresistant on November 13, 2014, 06:08:21 PM

Hmmm cheap coins. Buy it quick !

USD is mooning. I don't have any of those left. But I have plenty of patience

Quote from: prophetx on November 14, 2014, 03:17:19 AM

Quote from: YogoH on November 14, 2014, 03:03:30 AM

DDOS and Coordinated dumps...

that probably means it is time to buy soon... not yet, but soon

Is that what is happening...

Quote from: prophetx on November 14, 2014, 03:24:41 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 14, 2014, 03:20:32 AM

Quote from: prophetx on November 14, 2014, 03:17:19 AM

Quote from: YogoH on November 14, 2014, 03:03:30 AM

DDOS and Coordinated dumps...

that probably means it is time to buy soon... not yet, but soon

Is that what is happening...

been going on like this for 2 years now. remember back in march - april 2013. price goes up. ddos. price goes down. price goes up. ddos. price goes down.

This is my first year Embarrassed

Hehe. NotLambchop is here. Must be some cheap coins around Tongue

Quote from: DaRude on November 16, 2014, 01:19:08 AM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on November 16, 2014, 01:01:18 AM

Quote from: podyx on November 16, 2014, 07:09:25 PM

ChartBuddy refuses to accept price bellow 395 Grin

it'll pick right up once we go above that

Even automated postings have standards

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 16, 2014, 07:01:25 PM

Quote from: podyx on November 16, 2014, 07:00:30 PM

Is this gentlemen?

No

It looks like this is infact gentlemen... Roll Eyes

At the risk of not really adding to the conversation in any meaningful way, I have to agree about this being gentlemen. The TA speaks for itself

Quote from: podyx on November 17, 2014, 04:20:04 AM

Looks like i'll be getting margin called by the cent again for the 3rd fucking time...

Fucking disgusting

Dude

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 17, 2014, 11:06:52 PM

fuck the popcorn, bust out the chips and dip tonight, we are going to 10K !

Bump pump!

Quote from: paul2000 on November 17, 2014, 11:16:03 PM

Cheap pages, thank you page dumper

It was a panic dump. I'm trying to post back in now

Quote from: Eal F. Skillz on November 18, 2014, 01:16:39 AM

100 pages of posts deleted, very strange.

I'm surprised some of them weren't mine. They contributed little to the actual observing of walls

Quote from: Tzupy on November 18, 2014, 11:15:12 PM

Volume has dropped a lot lately. A month ago the 4h MACD was a relatively reliable indicator, but the pump-and-dump
we experienced may have sped up the market and maybe 2h MACD could be more useful short term, and it suggests going up tomorrow.

I wouldn't bet against it

Quote from: Eal F. Skillz on November 21, 2014, 12:51:14 AM

Dump it like it's hot.

I thought the bear market was over:'( This is like one of those never ending winters

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 21, 2014, 01:03:27 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 21, 2014, 12:52:44 AM

Quote from: Eal F. Skillz on November 21, 2014, 12:51:14 AM

Dump it like it's hot.

I thought the bear market was over:'( This is like one of those never ending winters

These people won't stop till every single buyer is scared away and Bitcoin is at 10 bucks.

Can't argue with market forces, I guess

Quote from: var53 on November 21, 2014, 01:16:45 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 21, 2014, 01:14:22 AM

max leveraged short now?

If the wall at $350 on bitstamp gets eaten I would say yes, otherwise I would say no.

Since when do perma-bulls borrow money to naked short Bitcoin Huh

This is madness.

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 21, 2014, 01:32:01 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2014, 01:27:46 AM

Quote from: empowering on November 21, 2014, 01:23:59 AM

Quote from: shmadz on November 21, 2014, 12:29:18 AM

I'd like some feedback from the Eurolanders out there, if possible

I just got this in my email:

Quote

This weekend, Swiss voters will be asked whether they want 20% of their currency, the Swiss franc, backed by physical gold.

The people I talk to here in Zürich are, at best, hopeful that the answer is no. They know that such a plan will cause a world of hurt to the Swiss economy and will hamstring the Swiss central bank and its efforts at managing the franc. They all say confidently that the majority of Swiss voters understand this and will veto the plan.

But you can clearly hear in their tone that worry tints their words. The polls are close. And they know that the Swiss feel their economy is too often manipulated by what happens with the euro and the dollar — and the Swiss are people with a deep independence streak.

Thus, there’s a better-than-good chance that Swiss voters shock the monetary world this weekend with a vote that signals the beginning of the end for modern fiat currencies. That will ripple through our world here in the States. But there are ways to prepare …

Anyone who knows any thing about Switzerland think this it's even a remote possibility?

Personally I hope they do it, I hope they go for it.. they could and if so they may not be alone in the future (if China do something similar) however, independence streak or not, I believe that the Swiss are also deeply conservative when it comes to change and especially when the change has to do with money, therefore I am afraid they will more likely vote against such a move Sad

though I hope that in fact they vote for it, I have a feeling they shall not.

If they realised that they were not in fact a real country but a private bank, they might care more about their solvency. Someone should probably tell them ...

20% of their dollar back by gold, with banks operating at 5% fractional gold reserves.

whats the point?

Paper Gold will dump hard again when news of the 'no' vote hits

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 21, 2014, 01:36:25 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 21, 2014, 01:34:27 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 21, 2014, 01:32:01 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2014, 01:27:46 AM

Quote from: empowering on November 21, 2014, 01:23:59 AM

Quote from: shmadz on November 21, 2014, 12:29:18 AM

I'd like some feedback from the Eurolanders out there, if possible

I just got this in my email:

Quote

This weekend, Swiss voters will be asked whether they want 20% of their currency, the Swiss franc, backed by physical gold.

The people I talk to here in Zürich are, at best, hopeful that the answer is no. They know that such a plan will cause a world of hurt to the Swiss economy and will hamstring the Swiss central bank and its efforts at managing the franc. They all say confidently that the majority of Swiss voters understand this and will veto the plan.

But you can clearly hear in their tone that worry tints their words. The polls are close. And they know that the Swiss feel their economy is too often manipulated by what happens with the euro and the dollar — and the Swiss are people with a deep independence streak.

Thus, there’s a better-than-good chance that Swiss voters shock the monetary world this weekend with a vote that signals the beginning of the end for modern fiat currencies. That will ripple through our world here in the States. But there are ways to prepare …

Anyone who knows any thing about Switzerland think this it's even a remote possibility?

Personally I hope they do it, I hope they go for it.. they could and if so they may not be alone in the future (if China do something similar) however, independence streak or not, I believe that the Swiss are also deeply conservative when it comes to change and especially when the change has to do with money, therefore I am afraid they will more likely vote against such a move Sad

though I hope that in fact they vote for it, I have a feeling they shall not.

If they realised that they were not in fact a real country but a private bank, they might care more about their solvency. Someone should probably tell them ...

20% of their dollar back by gold, with banks operating at 5% fractional gold reserves.

whats the point?

Paper Gold will dump hard again when news of the 'no' vote hits

when is that?

You mean when is the vote? I don't know exactly...

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 21, 2014, 01:45:17 AM

Back to 350, gentlemen.
On one hand, I understand how this could be problematic for some of you, but on the other...

Always fun:D

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 21, 2014, 02:30:12 AM

Always a good time for a friendly reminder:

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 14, 2014, 09:40:45 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 28, 2014, 05:41:04 PM

I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 28, 2014, 11:41:43 PM

I feel sorry for all the idiots who sold at these ridiculous prices and i will laugh at all the bears who will get caught in trap after trap the coming weeks.

The only winners are the holders (like me) and the people who pick up the last cheap coins while they can.

We're going up and it's confirmed!

Maybe the real Shroomkit sold his account between those two posts..

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2014, 02:33:55 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 21, 2014, 02:31:33 AM

<snip>

Maybe the real Shroomkit sold his account between those two posts..

And then bought it back for more Cheesy

LOL

Quote from: BoatsandBitcheswithBits on November 21, 2014, 02:53:57 AM

How low is this going to go? Think I should dump for Darkcoin?

Dump what? You aren't even a day old yet Cheesy

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 22, 2014, 01:12:29 AM

Quote from: Trollchop on November 21, 2014, 11:25:04 PM

Past closing time in a dank dive--think dingier version of Barfly.
Instead of Mickey Rourke, a dude actually looking ugly as Bukowsky, boils and all.

Projecting yourself again? Your self esteem seems pretty low. What's wrong?

Your boyfriend put sand in the KY jelly? Your favorite pink ponytail buttplug reject you again?

Oh the humanity.

Quote from: empowering on November 22, 2014, 01:20:21 AM

Dean Martins favorite eel?
That's a moray

What's better than roses on your piano?

Tulips on your organ Tongue

Quote from: empowering on November 22, 2014, 01:47:28 AM

Ebola causes headaches, feelings of nausea and is very difficult to get rid of.

So similar to Not Lamb Chop then.

The devil's advocate is where you find him. I personally find him insightful and entertaining

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 22, 2014, 01:58:19 AM

Quote from: solex on November 22, 2014, 12:13:39 AM

My impression of Chinese traders is that the bitcoin market is to them a video game

I believe that there are many who see it that way, yes.(*) But there must be also many robots. In their joint statement, last May, the leading Chinese exchanges pledged to curb high-frequency trading to make the field more even for human traders; but it seems that they have backtracked on that pledge.

On OKCoin and Huobi, whenever a large trade opens up the spread, the gap is immediately filled with dozens of small random orders. I have not looked closely, but my impression is that the orders are mostly bids, so that the spread shrinks towards its upper end. These sprays seem too quick and too regular to be issued by hand, and they seem to happen 24/7. I would guess that they are one or several robots, perhaps ran by the exchange itself.

(*) An article published several years ago told how Brock Pierce built a billion-dollar company that cornered the market of virtual money and other virtual goods from some computer game (IIRC, World of Warchraft). He got partners in China who set up "mines" of those virtual goods. They had umpteen Chinese workers playing the game all day long, stopping only to eat and sleep on the premises. His company collapsed when regular players of the game sued it, claiming that their gaming experience was ruined because those Chinese miners were everywhere in the game, and cared only about collecting stuff.

I just remembered that from the news. This was before Bitcoin wasn't it?

Edit: http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 22, 2014, 02:40:40 AM

Quote from: empowering on November 22, 2014, 02:38:30 AM

Working out well for you?
*Keep going tho, can't hurt you any more than your ace Bitcoin investment.

We all know you are perma-bull, bro Cheesy

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 22, 2014, 12:21:56 PM

Quote from: galdur on November 22, 2014, 11:30:36 AM

Nice. Up 3.3%/24 hrs.

It's called a pump. After that comes the dump.

When you're right you're right

Quote from: Eal F. Skillz on November 22, 2014, 02:31:47 PM

Quote from: octaft on November 22, 2014, 01:51:55 PM

Quote from: spooderman on November 22, 2014, 01:47:00 PM

teh nxt critical r nineteen pages.

Calling it: another post dump at 9997.

It's expected by many.

I'm already shorting this thread with leverage

Quote from: noobtrader on November 22, 2014, 02:40:16 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 22, 2014, 02:30:15 PM

Good morning Bitcoin warriors! How goes the battle?

Greeting comrade...

i switched side and shorted the market... and double teh profit !!! Grin

do you make profit so far Huh

or just being paid troll bahahahahahahaaaa

The dark side is THAT way Roll Eyes

Quote from: Ivanhoe on November 22, 2014, 08:55:44 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 22, 2014, 08:42:59 PM

Allright macsga, I'll give you another chance. You can leave your posts up for now.

To the rest of you money revolutionaries: Cheer up! We might go up a few bux before returning to our [all too predictable] descent.

@redsn0w: Another post 4u. Well played!

I got rich on bitcoin and you didn't Cheesy

You waste your time on this board and i don't Cheesy

Joke is on you Wink

Ahem: "I'm rich, bitch"

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 22, 2014, 10:33:35 PM

Back on topic: Did we ever have a poll where we hit the highest, and not the lowest price?

You should write warning labels on BTM's cautioning children to stay away

Quote from: zeurpiet on November 23, 2014, 11:13:37 PM

MOOOOOOON

Finished feeling suicidal have you?

Quote from: zeurpiet on November 24, 2014, 01:26:48 AM

First on page 10 000 Cheesy

Just don't hurt yourself

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868926.msg9634877#msg9634877

Gentlemen?

Just wait until this guy starts dumping *looking at ChartBuddy*

Quote from: nanobrain on November 24, 2014, 02:52:35 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 24, 2014, 02:47:23 AM

Quote from: Le Happy Merchant on November 24, 2014, 02:44:08 AM

At this rate, the entire thread is going to be posts about being on page 10k.

Are we there yet?

Classy sig. btw Wink

It was a perfect expression of pure skepticism. It moved me

The train will be back, don't worry

My take on this is that buyers are trying to acquire without too much upward slippage. Just because that's what I would be doing

Next adoption cycle might bring in the goldbugs? Zerohedge has started talking Bitcoin.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 25, 2014, 01:40:07 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 25, 2014, 01:24:30 AM

Next adoption cycle might bring in the goldbugs? Zerohedge has started talking Bitcoin.

Well, this precious metals trader (Amagi Metals) vowed to abandon the dollar for crypto in 2016:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2eqsl4/i_am_stephen_macaskill_ceo_of_amagi_metals/

[cynicism]Reminds me of the fable about the man who would teach a donkey to speak...[/cynicism]

I don't get it

LOL

Is Bitcoin the donkey?

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 25, 2014, 02:30:42 AM

Either way... It seems that the company (founded in 2010) had problems with banks some months ago. Given how gold is doing, perhaps they don't expect to be around in 2016...

Difficult times for goldbugs too

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 25, 2014, 02:52:11 AM

I wonder how long it will take this time before the dumpers take us back to 350. I'd say a day. 2 max.

I'd vote in that poll

Quote from: fonzie on November 25, 2014, 02:54:34 AM

Quote from: justusranvier on November 25, 2014, 02:53:07 AM

Each one of the next few hours are the duration of 33093474372000 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom

Stop spreading FUD! Angry

It sounds critical

Quote from: jaberwock on November 25, 2014, 11:21:00 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 25, 2014, 11:18:48 PM

Some dump today...Such daytarders Angry

Not a surprise.

Black Friday is coming

It's always something

373

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 26, 2014, 01:36:42 AM

Dudes, did you know BTCeanie BTCabies aren't babies at all? They're BEARS and shit! Let's learn together:

"Garcia the bear
Garcia the bear was released in January 1996 and retired in May 1997. He is a tie-dyed bear that seems to be a tribute to Jerry Garcia of The Grateful Dead, designed by Nicholas Scarborough. A group of differently colored dancing bears, originally artwork from the back of an album cover, was one of the band's many iconic images. The guitarist and the bear share a birthday, but the bear was supposedly "born" the year that Jerry died (Aug 9, 1995). The fast retirement for this Beanie Baby was due to an alleged lawsuit that the Garcia family filed against the Ty company, claiming that the name "Garcia" was used without permission from the family. In cooperation with the lawsuit, Garcia was retired and a similar bear named Peace was released."

Imagine that? That's VALUE!

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Awesome. Hope you enjoy it. <==no sarcasm.

how would I "enjoy" a beanie baby? I'm not a furry

ya fuckin weirdo

Wait, so you bought it as an investment? Sorta like Bitcoin, huh?

I don't think you will win any converts with the Beanie Baby thing, bro. FWIW

Quote from: spooderman on November 26, 2014, 03:05:52 AM

Why isn't there something on this forum that limits people to say....3 posts a page? Fucking lambchop's ignored bullshit is roughly half of this page!

He can troll all he wants on my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869664.msg9656503#msg9656503

Nobody seems to have taken to it Tongue

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Quote from: nanobrain on November 25, 2014, 01:37:26 PM

Great to see the thread default attitude towards women remains the same*

*let's not have another debate about whether women exist on the internet, we're here...deal with it.

Please explain how it's sexist. Because after growing up with a feminist mother and sister, I still don't get it. It may be in questionable taste to some people, but really is it sexist. Is it really true, that by posting the photo, and making a comment about her body really sexist? Does it show a disrespect towards women...? Personally I don't think it does.

Would it be homophobic, to post a photo of an attractive gay guy?

Wether it fits your idea of sexist is almost beside the point. It creates an atmosphere that is less than inviting to women and where they feel left out. If %70 of the posts where pics of bulges and gifs of flapping penises I know I would feel quite left out.

PS. This is my opinion on the matter. Howeve, I´m not very good at being a feminist so you might catch me saying something stupid in other posts.

do you think it's fair to repress male behavior? Do you think young people running in the streets is unfair to old people with walking sticks? Do you think a homogenised society is the path to Utopia?

If so, go back to your logans run society, and please don't use the keyboard anymore... because it's hardly inviting to those without fingers. You fucking finger Nazi !!!

You can probably be as manly as you dream of without being a donkeyhole. By cultivating work related spaces where women feel unwelcome we contribute to shaping societies where up to 50% of the greatest talents never find their rightful place as professionals simply because they are women. They are regularly being bypassed for positions by far less competent men because the guy is one of the boss's drinking buddies after work. Beyond it being unfair, it is detrimental to GDP growth and efficiency in the economy in general.

Are you serious? I have heard all about the glass ceiling from my mother and sister for decades. I understand the point that discrimination happens to women. You also must understand discrimination happens to almost every person at some point in their lives; Educated, uneducated, old, young, black, white, gay, straight, short, tall, fat, thin, male and female.

Also, this is not a work related space... it's a PUBLIC FORUM.

I'm asking why is it sexist, to post a picture of an attractive woman? Calling a man sexist for looking at a photo of an attractive woman, and or making a comment that she is attractive, is not sexist. To try and repress that male behavior is sexist.

So please, get down off your high horse and deal with the fact that if a woman wants to pose in a bikini and be photographed, that's her choice, and if a man wants to look at the photo that's his choice, neither event is your choice, in this instance.

I see you understand. Thankfully you understand all too well that the main point of all of this is that by suggesting a more civil tone towards any potential woman who may frequent this forum, it is you who are the victim. I just hope every woman who reads our little discussion understands that they should either post pictures of themselves in bikinis in the forum or pretend to be a guy, so that your fragile manhood stays intact.

Wait...this isn't because of my boobs picture from this morning is it?

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Wait...this isn't because of my boobs picture from this morning is it?

Not sure. Repost?

Ok. But this is ~~a repost, not a post. Like a quote~~ purely for ~~informational~~ purposes.

Some dump today, hey guys. I hope THIS wasn't because of that boobs picture

Quote from: spooderman on November 27, 2014, 12:03:47 AM

That, gentlemen, was a higher low.

This, gentlemen, is now gentlemen.

I'll buy that!

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Quote from: spooderman on November 27, 2014, 12:03:47 AM

That, gentlemen, was a higher low.

This, gentlemen, is now gentlemen.

gentleman this is gentleman...rinse and repeat Wink

lol

You notice some sort of pattern? Shocked

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Quote from: Totscha on November 26, 2014, 09:36:01 AM

Auctions have usually been won by long term investors. Why buy at a premium (and they do buy at a premium most of the time) only to dump immediately? That's burning money...

How do you know they buy at a premium? Have there been any major auctions where the price was made public?

Nope, and never quite figured out why people think this.

The losing bids that were made public after the first USMS were up to 10% below the market price. No reason to think the winning bid wasn't 9% or 5% under, or even just market price.

I am of the belief that Draper bid 5 to 10% above market price (if NOT more) in order to win all 10 lots of nearly 30k coins. Seems to be the most logical conclusion in order to win all 10 lots.

BTM's charge 10% premium..

Somebody has to find out what Tim paid for those coins Tongue

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 27, 2014, 09:25:34 PM

http://www.bitcoinblackfriday.com/

spend Spend SPEND!!

Yes everybody dump your coins for shiny trinkets! I have fiat ready

Exciting morning Shocked

Buying all the way down from $1200 must have felt bloody horrible. Like silver stackers who started at $50 an ounce. So many cheap coins!

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Probably doesn't feel as stupid as someone like me that sold hundreds in the 5-10 range.

Embarrassed

I sold plenty of coin below today's price. Feel like a boss--I made money. Our friend, the intrepid investor, lost it. Though technically, the money wasn't lost--it simply went to those who happened to be smarter than JayJuanGee.
In his case, @$1200, that meant "everyone."

You gotta work on your reading skills NOT Not pork. Yes I believe I bought 1.24 BTC at $1,200. So the fuck what.

Took one for the team. Good on you, bro!

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 29, 2014, 01:35:48 PM

Buying all the way down from $1200 must have felt bloody horrible. Like silver stackers who started at $50 an ounce. So many cheap coins!

Nope. It did NOT feel that bad, and part of the reason is because of the quantity being invested was NOT very high. Surely, there were a few moments that i was a little concerned about the value of my overall BTC portfolio, but overall, I did NOT feel badly or have trepidations or second thoughts.. again probably because I had allocated the quantities of my investment towards bitcoin, and I considered dollar cost averaging to be the best of the available options.. especially in order to continue to accumulate coins in the event that the market prices would begin to reverse.

But you said earlier that you had a lot invested in BTC. Also, you've been buying since $1200 and haven't caught the hint, yet. You must be in way over your head by this point.

Yes, too many details for little minds like yours to keep track, yet enough details for little minds like yours to grasp onto some irrelevant details in order to attempt silly-ass and distracting holes. I also said that I have less than 10% of my total quasi-liquid investments in BTC... and that I had doubled down around $600... Accordingly, a lot is relative and a lot is doubling down at $600 which had caused more difficulties to bring down the average price per BTC while BTC prices had continued to fall from $600 but have been largely stuck in the $340 to $420 range for a couple of months.

Do you plan to double down again if we hit $150? And $75? Serious question

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 29, 2014, 01:35:48 PM

Buying all the way down from $1200 must have felt bloody horrible. Like silver stackers who started at $50 an ounce. So many cheap coins!

Nope. It did NOT feel that bad, and part of the reason is because of the quantity being invested was NOT very high. Surely, there were a few moments that i was a little concerned about the value of my overall BTC portfolio, but overall, I did NOT feel badly or have trepidations or second thoughts.. again probably because I had allocated the quantities of my investment towards bitcoin, and I considered dollar cost averaging to be the best of the available options.. especially in order to continue to accumulate coins in the event that the market prices would begin to reverse.

But you said earlier that you had a lot invested in BTC. Also, you've been buying since $1200 and haven't caught the hint, yet. You must be in way over your head by this point.

Yes, too many details for little minds like yours to keep track, yet enough details for little minds like yours to grasp onto some irrelevant details in order to attempt silly-ass and distracting holes. I also said that I have less than 10% of my total quasi-liquid investments in BTC... and that I had doubled down around $600... Accordingly, a lot is relative and a lot is doubling down at $600 which had caused more difficulties to bring down the average price per BTC while BTC prices had continued to fall from $600 but have been largely stuck in the $340 to $420 range for a couple of months.

Do you plan to double down again if we hit $150? And $75? Serious question

If we hit $150... I would double down. I think this guy shot all his bullets, though. It sounds like it. Otherwise his number wouldn't be in the $550s... he would have doubled down in the low $300s. He's cooked.

Ya. Some people been sitting on gold they bought at $1800/oz. Just bad luck that

I did NOT try to make you mad, bro. You mad??

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 29, 2014, 07:10:22 PM

I did NOT try to make you mad, bro. You mad??

YEAH.. right.. .. you are trolling, and one of the goals of trolls is to cause illogic and distractions and to engage in personal attacks, which you are doing... and yes, you would love it to cause posters to become mad. This poster is NOT mad, just responding to some of the ridiculousness to put it in a context.

You have anymore one liners that are non-substantive attempts at "contribution" to get others to do all the work, in other words trolling while you sit back and muse that you have an effect in this interweb world?

No, I'm good for now. Thanks tho

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 29, 2014, 07:10:22 PM

I did NOT try to make you mad, bro. You mad??

YEAH.. right.. .. you are trolling, and one of the goals of trolls is to cause illogic and distractions and to engage in personal attacks, which you are doing... and yes, you would love it to cause posters to become mad. This poster is NOT mad, just responding to some of the ridiculousness to put it in a context.

You have anymore one liners that are non-substantive attempts at "contribution" to get others to do all the work, in other words trolling while you sit back and muse that you have an effect in this interweb world?

No, I'm good for now. Thanks tho

Be careful... he might try to charge you a "spam toll." Hahahaha

I heard somewhere he used to be all sophisticated in the Reptile thread before his leader went mad with Moneros

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 29, 2014, 08:30:55 PM

A day trader who mocks his colleagues who lost money at trading is like a fisherman who shoos away the fish that try to nibble at his bait. He did not quite grasp the idea yet.

This guy has been rude and dismissive to me and a lot of the folks who were newer to BTC. He's also accused me of things at various times even when I was less of a snarky prick. He deserves it and I'm bored.

This. He's been kind of an arrogant prick.

Yea. I've been pretty over the top and tangential of late, though. I'll really only go after anybody if I think they've gone after me or others. But, it's done now.

Very true. This is supposed to be gentlemen.

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Right off to bed. Hopefully be a semblance of normality on here when i return.

You can't sleep. The next few hours are critical!

Nothing is going to happen in the next few hours.

People are wondering if there will be a dump due to Black Friday and now it is too close to 4th to short.

My bet is that we won't see any moves until december 4, then a rise in december 4

This seems to be the general consensus. Honeybadger probably doesn't give a shit, tho

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 30, 2014, 12:47:58 PM

Achtung Bitcoiners!

THE FUTURE IS OURS!

Bitcoin: Work! Bitcoin: Faith! Bitcoin: Beauty!

Nazis today then?

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Quote from: NotLambchop on November 30, 2014, 12:47:58 PM

Achtung Bitcoiners!

THE FUTURE IS OURS!

Bitcoin: Work! Bitcoin: Faith! Bitcoin: Beauty!

Nazis today then?

Reductio ad Hitlerum means the troll is desperate for attention. I'm surprised he hasn't thrown Bitcoiners to the Atheists!

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Stolfi has bet his reputation on the fact bitcoin is gonna fail, if it was driven to new highs by fake volume he'd probably kill himself.

Lol @ thinking that normal people are emotionally invested in this pump & dump Cheesy

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 30, 2014, 10:40:28 PM

...It's like driving with a newly polished car.

...Blindfolded.

Edit: Which one of you deviants killed BFX pumpbot?

That wasn't a pumpbot.
It was an accumulation bot, either for a pump or a dump.

My guess is both in that order

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can anyone tell me if there is any point in not ignoring odalv?

because he's trolling the troll maybe ?

Quote from: octaft on December 01, 2014, 01:27:22 AM

How the hell does NotLambChop do it? How is he so good at trolling? The guy is an obvious troll like 98% of the time, everyone says he's a troll, the guy even outright admits it occasionally, and he STILL baits people into responding to him.

Either he is the best troll of all time, or a lot of you are very easy to troll. I'm putting my money on the latter.

Certainly one of the best trolls I've ever come across. And I was a b/tard once

Some skills are only so transferable Grin

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 01, 2014, 02:28:25 AM

Quote from: coinableS on December 01, 2014, 02:27:08 AM

500 BTC buy wall up at finex again. It's been happening all day.

Yet another reason why a crash is impending. I mean, now there's really, really no justification for the price to go down at all. Ergo, it's obviously going down.

Yes, I'm bored.

The honeybadger's freaky dance is impending and there's never any real justification for it Tongue

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 01, 2014, 12:50:19 AM

how much will it cost to buy you out?

I might be able to go as far as six speculations, maybe more tomorrow. You take skrill?

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Quote from: lay785 on December 02, 2014, 02:41:39 AM

looks like lots of people are on the sidelines waiting for the results of the auction (check out the buy walls at lower prices)- but it appears that there arent enough sellers even now.

Once the auction is over and buyers want to buy back in. They will see that the price hasnt descended. There simply wont be enough btc to go around at current prices - so we will likely have large pump/bubble.

agree, btc could be hyped again and pumped into 1k region.

Grin

And dumped on noobtraders. Ad nauseam

So Coindesk is convinced these 50,000 auction coins will sell for significantly below market. Thoughts?

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Quote from: BitChick on December 02, 2014, 11:50:31 PM

I am pretty sure everyone thought the coins would sell for significantly less than market price last time too but we all know that didn't happen.

Why would anyone have thought that?

How do we all know that didn't happen?

Quote from: BitChick on December 02, 2014, 11:50:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 02, 2014, 11:49:08 PM

So Coindesk is convinved these 50,000 auction coins will sell for significantly below market. Thoughts?

I am pretty sure everyone thought the coins would sell for significantly less than market price last time too but we all know that didn't happen.

As far as I know nobody knows what Draper paid for his coins. Correct?

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Quote from: BitChick on December 02, 2014, 11:13:25 PM

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I am back from India.

I returned a couple weeks ago. I have been avoiding the boards because I am a bit depressed. Husband sold some coins while I was gone. ...

Faith in God restored!!1! Cheesy

Hey, whatever it takes! If that was the outcome it was well worth it! Cheesy

Enjoy watching a Christian money changer get her beloved shekels taken from her, won't lie Cheesy

The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, but blessed be the name of the Lord.

Money/BTC is certainly not worth chasing after because it can come and go.

@ NotLambChop Any questions?

Grin

Score

Edit: EVIL

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I am back from India.

I returned a couple weeks ago. I have been avoiding the boards because I am a bit depressed. Husband sold some coins while I was gone. ...

Faith in God restored!!1! Cheesy

Hey, whatever it takes! If that was the outcome it was well worth it! Cheesy

Enjoy watching a Christian money changer get her beloved shekels taken from her, won't lie Cheesy

The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, but blessed be the name of the Lord.

Money/BTC is certainly not worth chasing after because it can come and go.

so. hard. to. not. troll. you.

For heaven's sake

Quote from: spooderman on December 03, 2014, 02:20:14 AM

Atheist Heaven is like that, too. Except Jesus doesn't spend half as much time rubbing it in

Quote from: podyx on December 03, 2014, 12:24:01 PM

Quote from: Tzupy on December 03, 2014, 12:18:18 PM

Auctioned bitcoins may sell at a steep discount:
http://www.coindesk.com/citi-ross-ulbricht-bitcoins-likely-sell-discount-usms-auction/

Their argument is that it's now $380 instead of $640??

Right, that's just fucking great logic.
If anything that will trigger more players to bid higher then the market price now when they got a chance to get it cheap.
Fucking broken logic, did a woman done came up with this? Cheesy

About the other 90k coins, we don't know what time these will go off on auction and the price could EASILY be more then $400 at that time

Teh Bitcoin has been pumping all week in preparation for this auction. The bit powers that be don't want them auction coins going too cheap. This is my theory

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 03, 2014, 12:50:06 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 03, 2014, 12:33:47 PM

Quote from: podyx on December 03, 2014, 12:24:01 PM

Quote from: Tzupy on December 03, 2014, 12:18:18 PM

Auctioned bitcoins may sell at a steep discount:
http://www.coindesk.com/citi-ross-ulbricht-bitcoins-likely-sell-discount-usms-auction/

Their argument is that it's now $380 instead of $640??

Right, that's just fucking great logic.
If anything that will trigger more players to bid higher then the market price now when they got a chance to get it cheap.
Fucking broken logic, did a woman done came up with this? Cheesy

About the other 90k coins, we don't know what time these will go off on auction and the price could EASILY be more then $400 at that time

Teh Bitcoin has been pumping all week in preparation for this auction. The bit powers that be don't want them auction coins going too cheap. This is my theory

Volume tells the story. Price was drifting higher all week and may continue to do so, but without much enthusiasm. Volume has been tapering off. I'll consider myself lucky to get in a short position near $390 before the buying stops entirely. I'm happy the gov won't get much for their stolen coins.

...and there's the silver lining I guess

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Quote from: Tzupy on December 03, 2014, 12:18:18 PM

Auctioned bitcoins may sell at a steep discount:
http://www.coindesk.com/citi-ross-ulbricht-bitcoins-likely-sell-discount-usms-auction/

Means there is a chance of the coins going to be dumped on exchanges at sight?

Or just manipulation to scare people and lower the price?

I have a funny feeling Citi and the other "prospective bidders" are selling the story of bidding on the coins at a great discount in order to get the other bidder to low-ball the bid so they can get their coins at or just under market price.

No bidder would willingly show their hand, seems like a classic poker bluff to me.

Citi is not an auction participant AFAIK

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Quote from: dakota neat on December 03, 2014, 11:50:46 AM

Do you guys really don't know why the price is dropping right before the auction?

I think it is comparable with Browns Bottom

Large entities pushing the price down to buy some more at cheap prices.
Afterwards prices will go moon and they sell.
It's easy. Just go short and buy back at January 5th

$208 is a dire prediction Cry

I was hoping $266ish

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Quote from: Torque on December 04, 2014, 03:35:28 AM

Wishful charting, buddy Roll Eyes

Do we know what time the auction is being held? This is so exciting Undecided

Amazing that a worldwide exchange market can just be completely stopped from all trading whatsoever by a few whales.

Is that what's happening here?

Quote from: Torque on December 04, 2014, 04:51:47 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 04, 2014, 03:55:30 AM

Quote from: Torque on December 04, 2014, 03:35:28 AM

Amazing that a worldwide exchange market can just be completely stopped from all trading whatsoever by a few whales.

Is that what's happening here?

No, it makes so much more sense that all trading on all exchanges worldwide comes to a complete screeching halt for several days... that just so happens to coincide with the USMC auction.

_{(yes that is sarcasm)}

I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with this concept.

Edit: is it like Martingale?

*drops pin*

It's auction day. Dump all the things!!!

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 05, 2014, 01:10:19 AM

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 05, 2014, 01:04:44 AM

Quote from: podyx on December 05, 2014, 01:00:52 AM

I have no clue where we'll go from here :S

Probably down, but probably not far and probably not long. We're only down about 10 to 15 on the day... we are still trading in a pretty narrow range and the situation seems, at least for the moment, to be under control.

We'll see what the morning brings us.

We're down 2.74% in the last 24 hrs. That's money you could have saved and more coins you could buy if you saw the obvious dumps coming. At least I learn from my past mistakes. Some people never do.

Meh. Wake me up at $260

Quote from: noobtrader on December 05, 2014, 01:13:49 AM

wow price dumped Cry

back to the fair price Huh

Fair price? Think lower, bro

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 05, 2014, 01:14:40 AM

Quote from: noobtrader on December 05, 2014, 01:13:49 AM

wow price dumped Cry

back to the fair price Huh

Fair price? Think lower, bro

oh dear... you were right, difficulty drop that changes everything... yep fair price is now 330-340 Huh

I hope so

Quote from: medialab101 on December 06, 2014, 02:36:18 AM

Quote from: TheJuice on December 06, 2014, 02:30:59 AM

Who wants a Christmas rally!

China apparently

and this guy?

Quote from: Sitarow on December 06, 2014, 03:22:00 AM

1 Year ago today.

who here remembers this..

Not me. I wasn't even here a year ago Undecided

Nobody observing walls this morning? I see one has moved UP Grin

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 07, 2014, 04:38:43 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 07, 2014, 01:46:06 AM

,@Newbie1022: "Bitcoiner" is not just someone who uses/has/trades Bitcoin.
I've never called myself a "Bitcoiner" outside of this forum--that's just embarrassing. Genteel folk would probably back away with a forced smile, but children are certain to point fingers and laugh Undecided

Fair

Sensible troll is sensible

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 08, 2014, 12:34:51 AM

Fuck this I'm going to bed.

Goodnight gentlemen.....

That alien might bite

Ya. I overshot on the poll again Angry

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 08, 2014, 11:54:53 PM

Sometimes I feel that bitcoin is going to be so huge...just because so many trolls dedicate so much time trying to save us from ourselves.. Instead of trying to milk us for every dollar like a wallstreet psychopath would.

Most trolls were people once...people with bitcoins. Just like you

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 09, 2014, 12:00:37 AM

360 support on stamp gone Cry

Is there a price at which you will consider buying back in?

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 09, 2014, 12:42:10 AM

Just this morning 360 seemed like unbreakable support. Now its resistance Sad

Quote from: ShroomsKit on December 09, 2014, 12:55:44 AM

Is this where big money is secretly gobbling up all the cheap coins as i have been promised for about a year now?

Yes?

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 09, 2014, 03:14:17 AM

Not looking good, sirs and gentlemens...

That was them all dumping and going home

Ya this slow crawl back to 275 will be painful. Can we all just dump now and get it over with?

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on December 09, 2014, 01:16:13 PM

What do 't you understand exactly. This is the same thing that's been going on since earlier this year. A bunch of people doing everything they can to take the price down. As if their life depends on it. And they won't stop till we reach 0.

And why will they do this?

To get more fiat?

Cash is still king Cry

NotLambChop called it. That ShroomKit too. Too much cash to be made on the way down. If this thing doesn't seep back down to 270ish I'll be amazed

Are we the greater fools that Muppet was on about then? *sigh* Cry

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 11, 2014, 12:23:48 AM

Hello, we'd like to talk to you about Bitcoin!

May we come in?

How to pray to the Bitcoin??

This thread is becoming completely incomprehensible Cheesy

Quote from: freedomno1 on December 11, 2014, 01:57:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 11, 2014, 01:36:46 AM

This thread is becoming completely incomprehensible Cheesy

But it always is, then again this is the Wall Street thread
IF it was not we would be in for a weird day Grin

I think a year long bear market has turned some of us mad. Quite clearly mad Wink

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 11, 2014, 02:08:52 AM

its official all the smart poeple have left this thread.

this is bullish.

The self-insulting paradox is classic Cheesy

Quote from: empowering on December 11, 2014, 03:17:24 AM

I went to the zoo and saw a loaf in a cage, the sign read "Bread in captivity"

Ok ok I am actually done now.

Fuck bread.

LOL!

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Quote from: solex on December 11, 2014, 11:42:47 PM

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A single post that is more insightful than 1000 posts from Mervyn Pumpkinhead, MatTheTwat, NotLambChop, Shrooomskit, and the like which plague this thread.

Thanks for sharing. Welcome to my ignore list.

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 10, 2014, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2014, 02:58:51 AM

Are we the greater fools that Muppet was on about then? *sigh* Cry

magic 8 ball never fails to deliver.

Losing faith, brother?

Quote from: Blitz on December 10, 2014, 07:13:51 PM

Quote from: oda.krell on December 10, 2014, 11:29:17 AM

In that case there's a good chance a vast number of current investors would leave for good, and price would deflate to level that seems laughably low right now... but then what? Others will pick it up from there, as long as there is the confidence that Bitcoin is useful for something after all. Cue the trolls: "It's about as useful as beanie babies or tulips". I don't need to tell you that's just noise. The usefulness of Bitcoin (or crypto in general) is undisputed. What is up for debate is the scale at which it will be used (and, as a consequence, what the valuation of the network should be).

Forgot to respond before, but Beanie Babies are actually more useful than Bitcoins IMO.

When I hold Bitcoin, I hide them in my cold wallet, too scared to even consider spending any because of the eternal public paper trail it leaves. It's already scary enough to securely handle cold storage considering all possible attack and data loss vectors, but at the same time, I have to be scared that they tremendously lose value again.

At least you can play with Beanie Babies, and some of them actually look nice. Plus, they're already worthless.

I just realized the moderator of this thread might be the most potent beartroll of them all Shocked

Quote from: David M on December 13, 2014, 07:46:13 AM

I reckon this is the 2nd greatest bear trap since $2.

I'm buying 10BTC at $350 flat.

God speed, brother Undecided

The forum is riddled with Ripple spam this morning for some reason

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 13, 2014, 01:13:04 PM

^
Don't do anything stupid, ChartBuddy...

You too, gentlemen. My indifference towards your tragic plight is but a facade--My heart breaks for you gentlemen, I worry...

It's only money, brother

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 13, 2014, 01:13:04 PM

^
Don't do anything stupid, ChartBuddy...

You too, gentlemen. My indifference towards your tragic plight is but a facade--My heart breaks for you gentlemen, I worry...

P.S: Good morning my friends!

.@BlindMayorBitcorn below: My point exactly! You can start afresh in a new country, with a new name--no one need ever know about your embarrassing Bitcoiner past.
I hear ~~the Nazis~~ other reputable Bitcoiners have had good luck in Argentina, perhaps try there?

Quote from: shmadz on December 14, 2014, 01:38:10 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 13, 2014, 08:51:19 PM

Hypothetically if somebody offered you guys 5000 USD per BTC that you own (and you had to sign an agreement saying you wouldn't buy any more, that's it, your participation in BTC is over) would you take it right now?

Sure!

I'd only sell about 2% of my total, and I make most of my btc from mining anyways, but still, that would make for one kickass weekend in Vegas Cool

This part would require you to sell ALL your coins

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 14, 2014, 01:08:14 PM

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 14, 2014, 12:45:53 PM

... Thus, the only people who will be utilizing this, at least generally speaking, is existing bagholders.

Not true. I hear there's this place called purce.io where you can buy BTC with a CC for over 20% above market price. Now if you buy your BTC there and ...no, wait. If you sell your... no, that's not it either.
Anyhow, you know 9-year-old kids? They do all sorts of dumb shit, I'm sure a few will think it's the smartest thing to do ever.
Like planking or somethin'.

LOL. Dude:)

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 14, 2014, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: MoreFun on December 14, 2014, 09:22:48 PM

This might be my first ever ignore Roll Eyes

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 09:19:37 PM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 14, 2014, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: empowering on December 16, 2014, 01:28:07 AM

This might be my first ever ignore Roll Eyes

Calm down, its auto-posting bot.

Well it has been warned Angry

Quote from: podyx on December 16, 2014, 01:18:30 AM

Quote from: grappa_barricata on December 16, 2014, 12:18:55 AM

That, my friend, is the chinks that hold a tight grip around their coins Wink

The 1970s just called, apparently they want their racial slurs back.

Quote from: empowering on December 16, 2014, 01:47:15 AM

This is all shades of wong.

Quote from: empowering on December 16, 2014, 02:05:15 AM

So Yung.

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That, my friend, is the chinks that hold a tight grip around their coins Wink

The 1970s just called, apparently they want their racial slurs back. Cheesy

Wasn't intended to be racist but w/E Grin

so wong smh... i mean wrong... Grin

Errrm.....

Quote from: only on December 16, 2014, 12:13:47 PM

FUCK YOU BEARS

Quote from: hyphymikey on December 17, 2014, 01:28:25 AM

This better be a mini bounce. I was promised $270 coins

Fewcoins promised ME $270 coins too Angry

Quote from: exocytosis on December 17, 2014, 03:04:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 17, 2014, 01:32:45 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on December 17, 2014, 01:28:25 AM

This better be a mini bounce. I was promised $270 coins

Fewcoins promised ME $270 coins too Angry

Don't worry. In 2015 you'll get plenty of chances to buy sub $200 and sub $100 coins. You can buy as many as you like. People will be more than willing to sell.

I can wait

Quote from: ParabellumLite on December 17, 2014, 11:38:12 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 17, 2014, 11:25:27 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/florida-group-faces-fraud-charges-alleged-altcoin-pump-dump/

I sincerely hope those fuckers get screwed over by the courts. A long prison sentence should await such criminals. There is no impunity, even in the world of crypto.

So many outright scams in crypto. How did they pick just one Huh

Quote from: FatherBob on December 18, 2014, 12:59:18 AM

OT:
Twenty seconds of this video HAD to be about bitcointalk.org (link to the right spot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9TEm1V4f64#t=842

Does the Lord tell you things?

Quote from: FatherBob on December 18, 2014, 01:10:19 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2014, 01:00:43 AM

Quote from: FatherBob on December 18, 2014, 12:59:18 AM

OT:
Twenty seconds of this video HAD to be about bitcointalk.org (link to the right spot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9TEm1V4f64#t=842

Does the Lord tell you things?

He gives me visions:

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders,
stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes

~Rev. FatherBob

The Lord giveth... and the Lord taketh away. Powerful Father, powerful

Quote from: elinehaarbollen on December 18, 2014, 01:04:18 AM

Quote from: FatherBob on December 18, 2014, 12:59:18 AM

OT:
Twenty seconds of this video HAD to be about bitcointalk.org (link to the right spot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9TEm1V4f64#t=842

Fewcoins?

Guess again

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 18, 2014, 01:40:18 AM

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Quote from: elinehaarbollen on December 18, 2014, 01:31:09 AM

Quote from: gnode on December 18, 2014, 01:29:00 AM

The next big move up to an ATH will be driven by

some rich person deciding that btc is the next big thing

then buying >300,000 btc.

This huge pump will start panic buying.

I think thats happening with Ripple right now ..

No ripple is gradually going up, then mysteriously it will be hacked and everybody will lose their money except ....

well you know.

there is nothing "gradual" about this ripple pump.

its gone parabolic... zoom out 3 month view FFS

I have to agree with Bitcoin bear...Ripple is classic altcoin hood-winkery

Wink

Quote from: nicked on December 20, 2014, 07:20:47 PM

I think "The Great 1 Day 2014 Bull Market" just ended.

I was there™

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 21, 2014, 01:03:22 PM

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Quote from: Elwar on December 21, 2014, 12:26:51 PM

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Who are these extremely poor individuals that know how to set up very specific complicated hardware setup that cannot afford electricity?
...

The unbanked third-world poor who will benefit the most from Bitcoin Cool

Good morning, gentlemen!

Not necessary if it the prices are low, then they would be at losses too.

I ~~think~~ hope The Reverend FatherBob was being sarcastic.

The lord works in mysterious ways, brother

Quote from: NewLiberty on December 21, 2014, 02:19:09 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2014, 02:13:36 PM

On a positive note: good news about your man Von Nothaus. That was a long time coming

Thanks for this.

Yes, good, not great, but certainly good. The judge figured out a way to "split the baby" and not do too much evil.
It was a Record Setting long time coming, longest time between conviction and sentencing in the court's history.

Wasn't there a time during the depression when it became illegal for citizens to own gold? Was this law still on the books somehow and used against him? Because the counterfeiting charges were a joke

lol

Quote from: inca on December 21, 2014, 09:50:42 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2014, 09:36:46 PM

The general consensus seems to be down

Great trading strategy!

I never suggested I have a strategy. But I'm mentally preparing for the worst. This place has shattered my cock-eyed optimism

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 21, 2014, 09:57:29 PM

Quote from: FreeBambi on December 20, 2014, 04:39:17 PM

than y dont other kids here kno how to draw like me? maby they liek bing rong?

Quote from: FreeBambi on December 20, 2014, 02:38:56 PM

The days when you could just shout down dissenting posters who refuse to pump this scheme are over.
Your gravy train ride is over too.
Last stop, gentlemen.
Everybody out.

Funny how your command of the English language varies from post to post.

Haha. Forgot to put the sock away Wink

Acting is hard

Quote from: jonoiv on December 21, 2014, 10:31:06 PM

cock

Quote from: escalicha on December 21, 2014, 11:49:42 PM

Check it on https://blockchain.info

That amount of coins would create a wall truly worthy of observation

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 21, 2014, 11:55:51 PM

And the slaughter continues....

Good to be mentally prepared for it ahead of time Cry

Quote from: molecular on December 22, 2014, 12:23:36 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2014, 11:59:14 PM

Quote from: BitAddict on December 21, 2014, 11:58:06 PM

Quote from: escalicha on December 21, 2014, 11:49:42 PM

Check it on https://blockchain.info

BearWhale returns?

Could be just a pool shuffling coins about. No?

Edit: I'm going with Yes

why would a pool hold this many coins.

170,000 got moved in this tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/5fcc0caeeedf3dcbfd72cf2ce01a32483191245bcc8b485a17f44416afffa1cf

I don't know. But we've seen large transactions before. I remember once it was Eligius moving coins around and everyone went mental

Quote from: pjviitas on December 23, 2014, 01:08:24 AM

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Quote from: macsga on December 22, 2014, 07:57:59 PM

Another thing to take note of (apart from it's Christmas) is the difficulty chart. It went down 4% and the trend is still ''down''. It seems we somehow found a way to an equilibrium.

https://blockchain.info/el/charts/difficulty

It's obvious that bitcoin miners are minting at very low % of profit.
The bigger ones try to hold as much as they can to seel in "pumps" like the one that we've seen before. The others just shut-off their rigs to don't pay more in electricity than what they really earn.

Could be interesting to have the testimonial of some miners and know if they hold or sell all their minted btc's Wink

I often hear "only large industrial size mining farms can be profitable"

This sentiment gets repeated until it is largely accepted as "fact".

But a home miner does not need to lease a large factory space or airplane hangar, and in the winter the electricity is effectively free. So I think the small miners can still compete by virtue of having lower overhead costs.

As an example, my cost right now is approximately $100 per bitcoin mined, and I don't sell any.

Other miners please feel free to chime in...

$100 per coin including your hardware costs?

I call bullshit with a capital B

Somebody had to

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 23, 2014, 01:36:46 AM

$58 excluding HW,

You are all losing to Fatman Tongue

Quote from: tarmi on December 23, 2014, 01:45:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 23, 2014, 01:41:00 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 23, 2014, 01:36:46 AM

$58 excluding HW,

You are all losing to Fatman Tongue

if true, he is paying for 1 kW 0.04 $.

not bad.

No wonder the nosedive continues. They're cheap to make Shocked

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 23, 2014, 02:16:06 AM

Quote from: shmadz on December 23, 2014, 02:07:50 AM

...
Yeah, hardware costs were recovered long ago.

And that's why, when you drop by the hardware section, all you see is happy miners stacking cheddar. No complaints about losing their "investment" due to manufacturers like HashFast, KNC, BFL, VirtualMining, etc., etc., etc.

Good story, brah

Can you make 100$ btc too??

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 23, 2014, 02:32:12 AM

Quote from: criptix on December 23, 2014, 02:23:48 AM

so we now at bitcoin mining cost of 100$ from miners need to dump 3600 coins asap everyday to cover their cost? Shocked

$100 is just electricity. Large mining farms have other overhead costs and often the cost of capital to worry about as well. If they did their maths at $600 and were expecting $850-$1200, they be dumping like a mofo.

What overhead?

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 23, 2014, 02:40:51 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 23, 2014, 02:32:12 AM

Quote from: criptix on December 23, 2014, 02:23:48 AM

so we now at bitcoin mining cost of 100$ from miners need to dump 3600 coins asap everyday to cover their cost? Shocked

$100 is just electricity. ...

That's why I agree with Elwar--there's a much greater profit margin for small miners vs megamines.
Can megamines buy gear with mom's credit card & set it up in mom's basement (where electricity is free)?
Hell no!

How is NotLambChop so consistently right and everybody above Hero has him on ignore. I think we are the have-nots here, folks Undecided

Quote from: adaseb on December 24, 2014, 03:53:06 AM

Well if you know when to short BTC you can always make good money when it goes down.

LTC was very easy to make money this year by shorting it.

Pro tip: it's going down now

Quote from: NotLambchop on December 26, 2014, 03:45:44 AM

Lol, so much for teh fabled transparency Sad

That CaVirtex thing, didn't they screw over some "investors" on this forum a while back? Or am I mixing them up with something else?

I think that was Vircurex

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 04:39:26 AM

BTW, Any peeps who cry out "don't quote the trolls" this is simple debate, if you find it offensive, just go ahead and ignore me too.

Calling "troll" is one of the ways the early birds here deflect any sort of criticism.

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 05:09:00 AM

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Quote from: samson on December 25, 2014, 09:45:00 PM

There's lots of talk about cheap Bitcoins

So what USD Value do you think a Bitcoin would be cheap ?

Below average mining price, whatever price that may be.
We soon may find out however.

The value of something is not how much it costs to produce.

The value of something is exactly what someone is willing to pay.

The world was willing to pay 80$ a barrel of oil because that was the lowest price offered. Now the Saudis are offering it cheaper (because they produce it cheaper) and the world is willing to pay 60$. Obviously value is some combination of both.

So the question becomes: who will be able to produce the cheapest coins, and if the world will be willing to pay that price when it hits?

Quote from: NewLiberty on December 26, 2014, 05:23:54 AM

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Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 05:09:00 AM

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Quote from: findftp on December 25, 2014, 10:06:20 PM

Quote from: samson on December 25, 2014, 09:45:00 PM

There's lots of talk about cheap Bitcoins

So what USD Value do you think a Bitcoin would be cheap ?

Below average mining price, whatever price that may be.
We soon may find out however.

The value of something is not how much it costs to produce.

The value of something is exactly what someone is willing to pay.

The world was willing to pay 80$ a barrel of oil because that was the lowest price offered. Now the Saudis are offering it cheaper (because they produce it cheaper) and the world is willing to pay 60$. Obviously value is some combination of both.

So the question becomes: who will be able to produce the cheapest coins, and if the world will be willing to pay that price when it hits?

The production rate is pretty well determined from the outset. So it may not be the production that matters so much.... Say if Karpales may find another 600K bitcoin somewhere in an "old format wallet" after all the BK issues are resolved.

So
1.The rate of production is inelastic,
2. but the cost at which the coins are mined will fluctuate along with the difficulty?

Quote from: Richy_T on December 26, 2014, 05:40:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 05:14:58 AM

So the question becomes: who will be able to produce the cheapest coins, and if the world will be willing to pay that price when it hits?

Tricky question because if people aren't willing to pay it, the price goes down, miners switch off their gear and bitcoins become cheaper to produce.

He's a wily one, that Mr Satoshi.

Then the difficulty goes down, and the farms start back up and flood the market with even more cheap coins. Is this a vicious circle?

Quote from: Richy_T on December 26, 2014, 05:47:35 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 05:43:15 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on December 26, 2014, 05:40:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 05:14:58 AM

So the question becomes: who will be able to produce the cheapest coins, and if the world will be willing to pay that price when it hits?

Tricky question because if people aren't willing to pay it, the price goes down, miners switch off their gear and bitcoins become cheaper to produce.

He's a wily one, that Mr Satoshi.

Then the difficulty goes down, and the farms start back up and flood the market with even more cheap coins. Is this a vicious circle?

No, it's called a negative feedback loop and should probably respond like any other damped oscillation.

Well this may seem like a silly question but how do other damped oscillations respond Huh

In a downwardly fashion?

Quote from: Richy_T on December 26, 2014, 05:55:15 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 05:51:24 AM

Well this may seem like a silly question but how do other damped oscillations respond Huh

In a downwardly fashion?

Just flip the chart top-to-bottom in your mind. The point is that in response to a change in inputs, the value will attempt to adjust to a new level, overshoot (not always. Google over-damped and critical damping) and in a series of decreasing oscillations settle at the new value. Then the inputs change again and it happens all over.

I'll look into it, thanks

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Miners adapt their mining expenses according to bitcoin price, not the opposite. In the hypothetical case that bitcoin goes to $10, miners would spend less than $10 to mine each bitcoin.

I thought the expense was to due to rising difficulty, and that determines the cost of production, which in turn help determine the market valuation..

Edit: so it can work backwards? The market valuation can determine the cost of production and difficulty with demand?

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:11:58 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 06:08:37 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Miners adapt their mining expenses according to bitcoin price, not the opposite. In the hypothetical case that bitcoin goes to $10, miners would spend less than $10 to mine each bitcoin.

I thought the expense was to due to rising difficulty, and that determines the cost of production, which in turn help determine the market valuation..

Mining difficulty adapts to bitcoin price. If price drops to $10, difficulty will drop too.

Is just simple offer and demand. If market don't want to pay more than $10, miners can't spend more than $10 to mine them. Otherwise they would be mining at a big loss.
But if market want to pay $10,000 and miners only spend $100, that's ok because they are doing it at a profit. Of course more miners would join mining because high profits and then, after time, mining each bitcoin would be near $10,000 each.

Hint: Remember bitcoin could be mined for nearly $0 each (if just 1 computer mining and no demand at all). It is just offer and demand (rising price and difficulty) the one who makes mining more expensive.

It's complicated Angry

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:27:12 AM

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Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Miners adapt their mining expenses according to bitcoin price, not the opposite. In the hypothetical case that bitcoin goes to $10, miners would spend less than $10 to mine each bitcoin.

thats impossible because the hardware will never roi that way because you have to consider how much coin can be mined per day.

btc emission as for now is 3600 coin per day

so

if i get profit of 3usd per coin that equal to 10800usd profit for ALL miner, 972000 usd every 3 month, but then you have to consider how many miner are there and if there is 275,536 Thash and each miner say... 3T, there roughly 91800 machine and each machine takes 10 usd per 3 month Huh

it never roi even if the miner priced at 300usd

edit ::: say... you got 9 usd per coin because free electricity, u still got 10usd per month

Market don't care about ROI or profit. Miners would lose their investment, that's all. Miners can't force market to buy their bitcoins at the price they want, they can just turn off their rigs in case they are not doing it at a profit.

A lot of people bought a lot of mining equipment that will never ROI. So?

The inelastic supply seems to be an issue then. If people demand less, we should be producing less instead of flooding the market so quickly? This must be what creates the volatile bubble-bust cycles. Just like silver

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:36:31 AM

The point is that base price to mine bitcoin starts as low as ~$0. If it is any higher is just because there is enough demand to drive price higher, so miners can start spending more in order to compite for the same bitcoins. If demand goes down, their expenses ir order to compite for that bitcoins goes down too.

So it's a pure supply/demand machine. Unlike metals, there is no real floor to the cost of production?

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:49:09 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 06:44:38 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:36:31 AM

The point is that base price to mine bitcoin starts as low as ~$0. If it is any higher is just because there is enough demand to drive price higher, so miners can start spending more in order to compite for the same bitcoins. If demand goes down, their expenses ir order to compite for that bitcoins goes down too.

So it's a pure supply/demand machine. Unlike metals, there is no real floor to the cost of production?

Exactly. Bitcoins come alone "for free" in each block, you only need to spend money in order to compite with other miners so you have more chances (more mining power) to find each block. The only reason miners spend more and more money is because they can do it at a profit. Miners won't spend more money to compite if they are doing it a loss.

So, if there is just 1 miner because there is no demand at all, mining floor would be near $0.

Is not like gold, that even if no one wants it, if you want to dig it for fun you would need to spend $1000 anyway (random number).

So the bubble-bust cycle is built-in to the protocol.. Huh

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:54:12 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 06:51:27 AM

So the bubble-bust cycle is built-in to the protocol.. Huh

No, it doesn't prove that. If people want bitcoin it can go as high as market demand or it could even stabilize if supply/demand is even.
Mining expenses just follow that.

Interesting creature, this honeybadger..

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 07:00:50 AM

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Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:49:09 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 06:44:38 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 06:36:31 AM

The point is that base price to mine bitcoin starts as low as ~$0. If it is any higher is just because there is enough demand to drive price higher, so miners can start spending more in order to compite for the same bitcoins. If demand goes down, their expenses ir order to compite for that bitcoins goes down too.

So it's a pure supply/demand machine. Unlike metals, there is no real floor to the cost of production?

Exactly. Bitcoins come alone "for free" in each block, you only need to spend money in order to compite with other miners so you have more chances (more mining power) to find each block. The only reason miners spend more and more money is because they can do it at a profit. Miners won't spend more money to compite if they are doing it a loss.

So, if there is just 1 miner because there is no demand at all, mining floor would be near $0.

It's not like gold, that even if no one wants it, if you want to dig it for fun you would need to spend $1000 per ounce anyway (random number).

i see this way... miner process transaction, then they get paid in bitcoin

atm we are in this bear market because demand is less than production because miner are minting new coin but within decades Huh

miner will not minting new coin anymore, just the transaction fee. so i think then we will see how valuable bitcoin really is

That doesn't prove price will go up in the future. If demand keeps going down and down, and it never goes up again. Then doesn't matter if there is halving or no more bitcoins mined, because market will pay less than now.

Your assertion is only true if demand remains constant or increases in the future. But you can't know that.

And 1. the more the downtrend continues 2. and/or something in the world changes to spur adoption, the demand will not increase, and the price will not increase. Isn't it?

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 07:31:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 07:06:04 AM

And 1. the more the downtrend continues 2. and/or something in the world changes to spur adoption, the demand will not increase, and the price will not increase. Isn't it?

Yep, but we can't know that either. Grin

Quote from: noobtrader on December 26, 2014, 07:10:31 AM

if i follow your logic then, bitcorn will soon be 10 usd, hashrate will plummet to just few giga because there is no incentives to mining and its all over for bitcorn mining industry... ppl who mining will do it for fun (and use pc and smartphones) and will not sell anyway. it will be the worst scenario and ultimate test to bitcorn existence.
even then i still believe that bitcorn can endure such disaster and survive

No, previous performance don't prove same will happen in the future. Because bitcoin went up in price for 5 years doesn't mean it will keep doing the same for the next 5. But because it went down for 1 year doesn't mean it will keep going down to $0.

I'm just saying bitcoin and bitcoin mining is about offer and demand, and we can't know what will happen.

If you think price will go up you can freely buy bitcoin and hold to profit in case you're right, or lose money in case you're wrong. It is just a bet.

You just made my "do not ignore" list, bro. Namaste

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 26, 2014, 08:10:10 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 07:51:28 AM

Why do you think bitcoin fanatics like BitChick went allin in bitcoin? To help poor people? Because she doesn't trust banks (but meanwhile risking a lot in a new "startup")?
No, she went allin because she believes in bitcoin and she wants to make a lot of money being greedy (I'm not blaming her. Nothing wrong there, anyone can do what she wants. And our human nature is to be greedy.). But she won't be happy at all if price goes down to $10, even if bitcoin "survives".
I bet at that price she probably wouldn't want to know anymore about bitcoin, buy more at that "cheap" price or look at the price. Too painful.

And don't tell me "is not about the price", because in that case you don't go allin, you just simply help the community and hold some bitcoin for fun.

It is neither because people believe banks and are risky, because bitcoin has a lot of potential BUT has higher risks, it is just a startup and we don't know how will it evolve. If you are scared about fiat, banks and your future (and yes, you are being right) then you should diversify (and having a percentage in bitcoin is fine), but not only going allin just in bitcoin.

On the other hand if price keeps going up you won't see any bitcoiner disappointed. But hey!, "Bitcoin is not about the price" TM Grin

all in is pretty cray cray.. budget an amount where you don't regret not building a 2k miner in 2010

..mind ya upd that 2k to speculative buying amounts closer to 7k

You are a hodler. Do you trade at all?

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 26, 2014, 08:29:28 AM

Is anybody passionate about BTC & it's long term future?

If we get to 5000 USD I'm selling the majority of my holding & getting the fuck out, I'll probably keep some in cold storage just incase we do go to the moon.

But if we reach approx 5000 USD I am out & I don't care what happens in the long term.
If BTC can pay my mortgage off I'll remember it fondly & look to my next investment.

TBH I got into Bitcoin because I thought it had the power to liberate some people from their fiats and banks. But if they are deincentivised to be liberated because of bitcoins ever diminishing purchasing power...it's a problem

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 26, 2014, 12:16:07 PM

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 04:57:02 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 04:53:15 AM

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 04:39:26 AM

BTW, Any peeps who cry out "don't quote the trolls" this is simple debate, if you find it offensive, just go ahead and ignore me too.

Calling "troll" is one of the ways the early birds here deflect any sort of criticism.

Point taken.
I will refrain from using that term in the future.

Surely most people can tell the difference between honest discussion, including criticism, and obvious trolling such as spamming the same FUD repeatedly with an obvious intent to be annoying or insulting, or starting numerous negative threads with the same content, especially with several obvious sock-puppet accounts.

Even trolls are capable of occasional honest discussion. I don't think anyone minds worthwhile comments being quoted even when they come from well-established trolls.

Perhaps it's better to say "don't quote the trolling". Hate the sin, not the sinner.

As for "early birds" versus "noobs", perhaps it should be recognized that those with considerably more experience will have a different viewpoint from those who are relatively new to Bitcoin who form opinions based on limited experience or try to apply experience in other fields inappropriately to Bitcoin.

Of course more experienced posters must remain open to change and not allow themselves to develop a stubborn orthodoxy and reject new ideas.
________

In my observation, posters fall into three groups.

The "early birds" are those who were into Bitcoin before 2011, and saw the price go from less than a cent to over a dollar, bubble to over $30, crash to $2 and then bubble and crash twice more.

A second group are those who came on board in late 2011, 2012 and very early 2013 and witnessed (and participated in) the last 2 major bubbles.

The "noobs" are those who didn't really get into Bitcoin until later in 2013 after the last bubble to the ATH had already started.

Obviously those who've seen the price go from a penny to over $300 will have a different perspective from those who have seen it go from $1000 to less than $400 in barely a year.

Those in the middle group, including myself, will have a viewpoint somewhere in between those of the other groups..

Good points. I always look at the age of the poster's account after a comment and wonder: how confident can this one afford to be? Tongue

Quote from: inca on December 26, 2014, 11:30:05 PM

Quote from: tarmi on December 26, 2014, 10:59:31 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 26, 2014, 10:57:31 PM

Quote from: LOBSTER on December 26, 2014, 10:55:29 PM

Dat buywall, dat Christmas, dat Uptrend...BITCOIN

Dem cheap coins.

Buy people buy, before the train departs.

this train is going nowhere.

see you below 300.

thank you for closing your shorts.

Shouldn't you be closing yours too? They are underwater, right?

If I was a trader I would open some right now. I wonder how I would do..

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 11:33:12 PM

Quote from: inca on December 26, 2014, 11:30:05 PM

Quote from: tarmi on December 26, 2014, 10:59:31 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 26, 2014, 10:57:31 PM

Quote from: LOBSTER on December 26, 2014, 10:55:29 PM

Dat buywall, dat Christmas, dat Uptrend...BITCOIN

Dem cheap coins.

Buy people buy, before the train departs.

this train is going nowhere.

see you below 300.

thank you for closing your shorts.

Shouldn't you be closing yours too? They are underwater, right?

If I was a trader I would open some right now. I wonder how I would do..

*sigh*

Quote from: cbeast on December 27, 2014, 06:13:48 AM

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Quote from: Specular on December 27, 2014, 03:56:58 AM

It is so funny that when BTC has a good PR day thanks to BitcoinBowl - the price takes a huge dump.

Classic Bitcoin move. Good news = price dump.

If it was a sincere effort to dump, it would have sell walls. Instead, they just dump at market. This is starting to feel like a psyops campaign rather than superstitious trading.

Just Bitpay and other sellers dumping, I guess.

No need of theories about nutz guys selling stuff just for the sake of no reason

What kind of business model dumps large amounts at market?

The kind that sees the writing on the wall?? Sad

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 26, 2014, 12:50:18 AM

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Quote from: noobtrader on November 26, 2014, 12:22:49 AM

oh dear retreat to 354 Shocked

Derp

in 24 hours.... Tongue

PS::: derp

We will see.

The month in review.... Tongue

PPS::: herp derp

Quote from: lyth0s on December 28, 2014, 03:35:11 AM

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 28, 2014, 02:49:56 AM

Quote from: lyth0s on December 28, 2014, 02:21:47 AM

Reserve Bank of India is Pro-bitcoin and thinks that eventually it will be the most used form of payment transactions.

The moon isn't that far away... Cheesy

http://www.geekcipher.com/technology/reserve-bank-of-india-gov-rajan-pro-bitcoin/

Read carefuly, he actually said that India will completely replace the rupee for Dogecoin in 2015. He did not want to be bested by the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia, who, as reported previously here, said that he will stand up to Putin and demand the immediate replacement of the ruble by Litecoin.

I have no idea what your talking about. Were you drinking tonight or is this just some lame trolling?

I can appreciate hyperbole, but until JS has anything interesting to say he is still ignored.

Just added him myself. This has been the year of "ignores" for me. I hate to do it actually as I like to hear real counter arguments and opinions, but the forums have been over run by people like him.

I've noticed a pronounced divide between winners and loser lately. Remember that a lot of us aren't traders, and joined this year. Imagine that, if you will. It's hard times, brothers, I promise you

I've also noticed everybody's talkin' 'bout
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism.
But all we should be saying is...

308 on btc-e Cry

Quote from: molecular on December 28, 2014, 11:20:40 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 28, 2014, 04:04:44 AM

I've noticed a pronounced divide between winners and loser lately. Remember that a lot of us aren't traders, and joined this year. Imagine that, if you will. It's hard times, brothers, I promise you

friend of mine got in at $30 in 2011. He had to wait almost 2 years to become a happy man.

Point taken

Quote from: jaberwock on December 28, 2014, 01:20:20 PM

Quote from: silencesilence on December 28, 2014, 01:17:25 PM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 28, 2014, 01:00:22 PM

Quote from: LOBSTER on December 28, 2014, 01:54:54 PM

I would be grateful if you write a few sentences about the chart
I do not know much

Thanks!

It is auto posting.
He can't answer you,

Click in the more info(or something similar) to see more info

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 28, 2014, 01:26:02 PM

Quote from: jaberwock on December 28, 2014, 01:20:20 PM

Quote from: silencesilence on December 28, 2014, 01:17:25 PM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 28, 2014, 01:00:22 PM

I would be grateful if you write a few sentences about the chart
I do not know much

Thanks!

It is auto posting.
He can't answer you,

Click in the more info(or something similar) to see more info

I don't get it. What does it mean?

Quote from: magicmexican on December 28, 2014, 11:41:39 PM

Quad bottom confirmed. Here we go, the bike to 600$ is leaving soon

... Right?

Seriosly though, cmon bitcoin, i know you can do better

Hero members get the deluxe package:

Happy New Year to my favourite pump and dump. You know the one Wink

Can I get an Amen, brothers?

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us Roll Eyes

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:34:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:27:31 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us Roll Eyes

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes Wink

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:53:23 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:34:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:27:31 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us Roll Eyes

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes Wink

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

Quote from: explorer on January 01, 2015, 12:01:10 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:59:14 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:53:23 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:34:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 31, 2014, 11:27:31 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us Roll Eyes

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes Wink

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

Oh, the one gutted, essentially repealed recently.

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 01, 2015, 12:08:12 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 01, 2015, 12:05:49 AM

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

DUDE! Hold the phone. I have no love for Wall Street OR myopic Libertarians whose heart would be broken if they knew Ayn Rand lived on Social Security for 8 years. I believe consumer protection is important. That's all

Edit: maybe this was a general statement directed at ethically-minded early adopters. If that's not you, then you kindly piss off. Jack!

Post-Edit: you were the one to bring up the ETF in the first place!

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 01, 2015, 12:20:32 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 01, 2015, 12:13:46 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 01, 2015, 12:08:12 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 01, 2015, 12:05:49 AM

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

DUDE! Hold the phone. I have no love for Wall Street OR myopic Libertarians whose heart would be broken if they knew Ayn Rand lived on Social Security for 8 years. I believe consumer protection is important. That's all

Edit: maybe this was a general statement directed at ethically-minded early adopters. If that's not you, then you kindly piss off. Jack!

'consumer protection' is just another racket foisted onto unsuspecting public by grifters through beholden politcians and bureaucrats who love any excuse to stick their nose (and money-sucking funnels) into your business ... can't believe people like you still naively think anything to do with government is actually helpful after all the evidence that has now been presented in the public domain by the Internet (yeah that thing they keep trying to coopt, twist and shut-down)

So no safeguards, no social safety nets? Winners take all?

Quote from: byronbb on January 01, 2015, 12:45:28 AM

Quote from: criptix on January 01, 2015, 12:38:27 AM

Btc scams are just childs play

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

And this is just the tip of the iceberg

Yup.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-30/rigging-triangle-exposed-jpmorgan-british-petroleum-bank-england-cartel-full-frontal

If only for zerohedge you'd probably be a goldbug. But you already have skin in this game and are winning, I guess

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 31, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Look who was hyping Wall Street a few pages back. When it suited his purpose

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 01, 2015, 01:17:45 AM

wow ... didn't take much of a rattle to get the trolls out their cages today!! trololololol

Could say the same about the boosters Wink

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on January 01, 2015, 01:36:28 AM

Glad to see that vague narratives that don't even apply to BTC are still used by pumpers to summon ~~greater fools~~ a new bull market.

But...the ETF?

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 01, 2015, 01:54:41 AM

Quote from: brg444 on December 31, 2014, 09:55:44 PM

If the SEC had decided they wouldn't approve a math-based assets ETF they would've made it clear to the Winklevoss instead of suggesting corrections to their filings.

Logic would suggest that no amount of countless lawyers hours at a hefty price should be spent further pursuing a hopeless goal. Clearly the Winks have some indications that following due process their project has a chance and will ultimately be approved.

We do not know whether the SEC suggested anything. The Winkles may have decided to change the state of incorporation and many legal details, so they absolutely had to amend their filing just because of that. I don't know if the other changes, about the current state of the bitcoin economy, would have made much difference to the SEC, or if the Winkles would have felt it worth amend the filing just because of them.

News about the amended filing were been posted several times to on the /r/bitcoin sub-reddit. In one of those threads, someone observed that the SEC has more than 1000 ETF proposals waiting for approval, some for over a year; and that the longer a proposal sits on the queue, the less likely it is to be approved.

The proposal says they will offer 1'000'000 shares, each representing 0.20 BTC held by teh fund. If the ETF is approved, presumably the Winkles will sell their estimated 200'000 BTC to the fund (indirectly, to the people who will but shares of the fund).

They also changed the name of the fund's company. Another comment on that thread notes that the acronym of "Math-Based Asset Services, LLC" - MBASL -- could be pronounced as "embezzle". Grin

Genius:P

Ok mass delusion's over folks. Everybody back to work:P

Quote from: Gyrsur on January 01, 2015, 08:00:23 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 01, 2015, 07:23:06 PM

Ok mass delusion's over folks. Everybody back to work:P

WOW! This is 3D! Shocked

Ok good because I just assumed I was having another seizure and kind of went with it

Quote from: LOBSTER on January 01, 2015, 08:04:33 PM

Whats up with Bitstamp? Does anybody have information?

You seem to have some, Lobster my man. What's happening?

Quote from: outahere on January 02, 2015, 12:28:20 AM

Quote from: galdur on January 01, 2015, 11:19:13 PM

"They'll come at you sideways. It's how they think. It's how they move. Sidle up and smile, hit you where you're weak." - Shepherd Book

You're back!

Quote from: freedomno1 on January 03, 2015, 12:31:20 AM

Looks at the poll questions
2012 - 2013 Growth again haha to the moon
From 300 USD to 1600 USD in one year (well it seems like a real longshot atm but this is Bitcoin)

___________

Bitcoin Will Pass $1600 By the End of this Year

Options: Yes | No

Hehe. What are the odds?

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on January 03, 2015, 02:59:09 AM

Adam is back!! Shocked

And NotLambchop is gone?? Shocked

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 03, 2015, 03:10:22 AM

Quote from: Son0fLamb on January 03, 2015, 03:08:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2015, 03:01:02 AM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on January 03, 2015, 02:59:09 AM

Adam is back!! Shocked

And NotLambchop is gone?? Shocked

price continues to tank Sad

And everything makes sense again

Quote from: aminorex on January 03, 2015, 03:41:07 AM

Quote from: abercrombie on January 03, 2015, 02:08:23 AM

If you understand hash rates then you'll realize that 1 confirmation of Bitcoin is better than 10 confirmations of your favorite Alt coin with weaker hashes.

Only as long as you have value in BTC's blockchain.

...which is a fragile experiment. The chief scientist admits to owning only an insignificant amount. Probably because it's become an insatiable inflation monster. Happy birthday, Bitcoin Cry

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 03, 2015, 03:57:59 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2015, 03:42:56 AM

The chief scientist admits to owning only an insignificant amount.

And his mentor owns more than anyone else.

And Gavin has said on the record he thinks "Satoshi" should eventually get the chance to cash-out

Quote from: Stargazer on January 03, 2015, 04:43:49 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2015, 04:00:54 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 03, 2015, 03:57:59 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2015, 03:42:56 AM

The chief scientist admits to owning only an insignificant amount.

And his mentor owns more than anyone else.

And Gavin has said on the record he thinks "Satoshi" should eventually get the chance to cash-out

Satoshi should be waiting for a chance to buy his own island or a big yacht. Switching to USD to "cash out" would be seen as an act of treason Cheesy

One of Che Guevara's sons is running a business in Cuba touring rich fat-cats around the island on hundred thousand dollar motorcycles. Revolutions always end up with For Sale signs attached

Quote from: rebuilder on January 03, 2015, 05:47:02 AM

IOW there's about 5% profit to be made by anyone with cad on virtex and btc on stamp. Only up to 300 USD profit, though

The whole thing is crashing down. If you are an early adopter, now might be your last chance to buy that Lambo

Quote from: spooderman on January 03, 2015, 06:43:22 AM

Quote from: Torque on January 03, 2015, 06:42:40 AM

So at what point do the avid early adopters stop smirking "Bitcoin is doing just fine." and "Quiet you! I bought at $30, blah blah blah" and start to recognize that there may be a serious problem here with apathy and lack of adoption going on?

Say, at $200? $100? $50? How low does it have to go before the realization that no one gives a shite about bitcoin anymore starts to set in?

Its price is not a very relevant factor in its adoption....

OMG LOL

Mass delusion should wear off any second now...

Quote from: spooderman on January 03, 2015, 06:48:54 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2015, 06:47:52 AM

Quote from: spooderman on January 03, 2015, 06:43:22 AM

Quote from: Torque on January 03, 2015, 06:42:40 AM

So at what point do the avid early adopters stop smirking "Bitcoin is doing just fine." and "Quiet you! I bought at $30, blah blah blah" and start to recognize that there may be a serious problem here with apathy and lack of adoption going on?

Say, at $200? $100? $50? How low does it have to go before the realization that no one gives a shite about bitcoin anymore starts to set in?

Its price is not a very relevant factor in its adoption....

OMG LOL

does what I said seem absurd? Last year major players adopted while its price fell and fell....

While other major players (and early adopters) sat back and laughed and laughed. I remember

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 03, 2015, 03:20:05 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 03, 2015, 02:28:44 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on January 03, 2015, 02:16:02 PM

This epic shakeout will continue until every weak hand is bled out and the fear is palpable. Who knows how long it will last. But rest assured that, when the tide turns, those of us that held on (or bought more) will reap the rewards.

Alan Davies: "We will see who is right. Just look at Da Vinci, a lot of people called him a nutter back in his days."
Stephen Fry: "They said that about a lot of idiots as well."

We don't need shakeouts. We need millions and billions of weak hands to go mainstream. We need growth in all directions. Just face it, this is a bad day.

Exactly. Amazing to see there are still people who believe in the weak hands myth. Been reading that same line during every dump since 1200.

I think it's called a confirmation bias. It's hard for brains to admit they were so wrong for so long

Fancy store of valuessssssss Shocked

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 01:33:20 AM

A little perspective from looking back at the crashes of the past.

At least this time we don't have one single point of failure like when gox halted trading in the crash from 266 to what? 70?

At least this time trades are getting filled and people are getting what they want. You want to sell? Sure! Plenty of liquidity at these prices. You want to buy? No problem! A veritable flood of sellers.

I wonder if these high volume events are just an indication of price discovery at work. We may need to get used to sub 300 because there seems to be plenty of liquidity on either side of this price.

285 to 275 sideways range for next couple weeks would suit me just fine.

I don't know how you people make money with crashing prices. I have to learn how to trade this year Undecided

Quote from: macsga on January 04, 2015, 01:44:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2015, 01:43:15 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 01:33:20 AM

A little perspective from looking back at the crashes of the past.

At least this time we don't have one single point of failure like when gox halted trading in the crash from 266 to what? 70?

At least this time trades are getting filled and people are getting what they want. You want to sell? Sure! Plenty of liquidity at these prices. You want to buy? No problem! A veritable flood of sellers.

I wonder if these high volume events are just an indication of price discovery at work. We may need to get used to sub 300 because there seems to be plenty of liquidity on either side of this price.

285 to 275 sideways range for next couple weeks would suit me just fine.

I don't know how you people make money with crashing prices. I have to learn how to trade this year Undecided

Easy. Buy high, sell low. Piece of cake Grin

Piff paff easy peasy Tongue

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 03:43:10 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 04, 2015, 03:33:27 AM

Quote from: kenji on January 04, 2015, 03:31:36 AM

the bottom is in Cool

I think you meant to say: the bottom is clenched Cool

Virtex has 20 coins available at the equivalent of less that 260 USD each right now.

There is some serious selling pressure going on and it smells awfully fishy to me.

I wasn't gonna say anything...but is it possible that's where the dump started?

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 04:22:37 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2015, 04:13:17 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 03:43:10 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 04, 2015, 03:33:27 AM

Quote from: kenji on January 04, 2015, 03:31:36 AM

the bottom is in Cool

I think you meant to say: the bottom is clenched Cool

Virtex has 20 coins available at the equivalent of less that 260 USD each right now.

There is some serious selling pressure going on and it smells awfully fishy to me.

I wasn't gonna say anything...but is it possible that's where the dump started?

You know, before today I would have said that's impossible, but now that you mention it..

Nah, still just peanuts for volume on this tiny exchange, not enough to move anything...

Unless they're insolvent? It's the new Canadian GOX?

Dammit! Where'd I put my tinfoil hat?

I can't figure out how the VoS price stays consistantly 30 bucks above Virtex. Any ideas?

Quote from: explorer on January 04, 2015, 04:33:47 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 03:43:10 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 04, 2015, 03:33:27 AM

Quote from: kenji on January 04, 2015, 03:31:36 AM

the bottom is in Cool

I think you meant to say: the bottom is clenched Cool

Virtex has 20 coins available at the equivalent of less that 260 USD each right now.

There is some serious selling pressure going on and it smells awfully fishy to me.

Virtex: Put up a sell, wait 5 days for the buyer to deposit fiat, complete transaction Cheesy

I think the party will be over before last week's deposits show up. Last one was 9 days Undecided

(through holidays)

Where is the arbitrage between there and VoS? What am I missing? (Not a trader)

Quote from: kenji on January 04, 2015, 05:06:52 AM

is it better to buy back now?

That's like 50 grand... Go travel the world, bro!

Quote from: outahere on January 04, 2015, 05:19:37 AM

Most of the bitcoiners are absent. They're probably heading to Vegas for the World of Bitcoin.

What are we? Chopped liver? Tongue

It's amazing. I ain't even mad

Quote from: shmadz on January 04, 2015, 02:37:58 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2015, 02:35:39 PM

It's amazing. I ain't even mad

I probably have another 3 or 4 days before my deposit clears, I fully expect the price to rebound by then, if only temporarily Grin

I'm a disillusioned permabull. Can't help myself at this price. I'm going in. (Dat BTM premium tho Undecided

)

Quote from: outahere on January 04, 2015, 02:51:14 PM

I guess I'm the only one that sees the pattern for the timing of this bear trap. It's just too perfect.

It's significant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqmKbhIcTn0

Quote from: outahere on January 04, 2015, 02:58:41 PM

Quote from: yefi on January 04, 2015, 02:57:10 PM

Quote from: outahere on January 04, 2015, 02:51:14 PM

I guess I'm the only one that sees the pattern...

The world must look like a cascade of 0 and 1s for you. Roll Eyes

Someone wants to humiliate World of Bitcoin in Las Vegas this week.

That might not be that far out there. Banksters are tricky

Quote from: Meuh6879 on January 04, 2015, 03:22:59 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 04, 2015, 02:59:46 PM

Mah Bitcoin!

Metro 2033 ... ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2hhef-Nzo

IVAN THE TERRIBLE AND HIS SON IVAN ON NOVEMBER 16, 1581

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 04, 2015, 03:28:16 PM

Is this where wallstreet gets in?

LOL. Have a mercy Cry

Quote from: podyx on January 04, 2015, 03:37:22 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 04, 2015, 03:30:04 PM

Quote from: podyx on January 04, 2015, 03:27:07 PM

If I wouldn't have missclicked my sell order for buy order, I would have made a solid kilo today...

Why didn't you just sell again?

Because it dropped a few dollars when I bought so I wanted to sell it at the level which I bought but that price never came

And the orders I set up trying to sell after that missed by a few cents all of them... Roll Eyes

Eesh. Maybe I should stay away from trading

Quote from: outahere on January 04, 2015, 03:46:06 PM

What, no suicide hotline posts?

http://www.dailydot.com/business/suicide-hotline-reddit-bitcoin/

http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r88vl/need_advice_on_inheritance_arbitrage_family_etc/

Quote from: halinyo on January 04, 2015, 11:54:37 PM

Bitcoin will crash down and make a new all time recent low.

I have said "$254 and $233" are the two bouncing points, in DGB thread and now $257 (Ref: CMC) we have seen and bounced back from then... Now time for $233....
But it does not really look good to me... Lets see... but staying in BTC is a bit too risky, best to stay in Dollars or any other altcoin you believe in.

I have chosen mine, DigiByte is one of the safer coins at this very moment. Good Luck peeps.

Asinine. God speed

Quote from: kenji on January 05, 2015, 12:36:43 AM

bought back at 270

i think it is time da mooon

kenji you so crazy Cheesy

Quote from: kenji on January 05, 2015, 12:50:10 AM

prepare you for the incomming monster pump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kiss

Quote from: prophetx on January 05, 2015, 01:39:35 AM

Quote from: kenji on January 05, 2015, 01:19:15 AM

soon

yea right.... the days of easy money are over (unless you are shorting, but even that will end soon)

Dude. I think Kenji is cool. Tell him about the money button Wink

Quote from: Walsoraj on January 05, 2015, 03:48:08 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914434.msg10041533
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rd6bb/problems_with_bitstamp_withdraws/

LOL if legit.

*edit*

And https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=531285.0

And here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914434.0;topicseen

Quote from: Wary on January 05, 2015, 03:58:43 AM

Just received.

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Dear customer,

Today our transaction processing server detected problems with our hot wallet and stopped processing withdrawals.
You should STOP SENDING bitcoin deposits to your Bitstamp account IMMEDIATELY as private keys of your deposit address may be lost.
Your bitcoins already deposited with us are stored in a cold wallet and can not be affected.
We will send you more info as soon as possible.
Best regards,

Bitstamp team

Quote from: Specular on January 05, 2015, 04:34:01 AM

Maybe someone stole BitStamps hot wallet coins and dumped them all as quickly as they could - causing the latest price collapse?

Or this is Bitstamp's way of halting the crash. Or their hot wallet really is just temporarily buggered

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 11:29:09 PM

Quote from: Specular on January 05, 2015, 11:02:34 PM

It seems like the $5M question is whether Stamp has spare BTC to cover the loss, or do they have to buy some of those 18K btcs in the market to return back to their users.

If they make everyone whole and swallow the loss, I wonder how Stamp users will feel? Do you switch because they were hacked, or do you stay loyal because they made everyone whole even after they fucked up. I mean shit happens, its nice to know that they are willing to take a hit to preserve their users' funds (like Blockchain did when some of their wallets were hacked).

How much do they make each day on average? Bitstamp's a ripple gateway in addition to a bitcoin exchange, so it makes money off the ripple system and people trading bitcoins.

The article link below is about the first day OKCoin.com beat Bitstamp by transacting nearly 16,000 BTC, compared with Bitstamp’s ~14,700 BTC and Bitfinex’s ~15,100 BTC.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/okcoin-com-had-higher-daily-bitcoin-volume-than-bitstamp-and-bitfinex-today/

I cannot remember exactly what fees Bitstamp charges, but if it's trading volume is ~14,700 BTC daily, then it must have earned far more than $5 million this year.

So that's what happened? Officially? Hackster got the hot wallet??

Quote from: coinableS on January 06, 2015, 12:00:29 AM

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Quote from: macsga on January 05, 2015, 11:33:56 PM

Quote from: elasticband on January 05, 2015, 11:29:54 PM

news just in GOX coin now trading on bitstamp

what the f*ck next?

Microsoft adopts ->> price goes down
Paypal adopts ->> price goes down
NY Regulation ->> price goes down
...
...
Bitstamp Goxxed --> someone CCMFs Bitfinex.

Go figure... Grin

I've seen this many times but I still don't know what it means...

CCMF?? Anybody?

LMAO, now I get it! Thanks!

Hehe

Quote from: aminorex on January 06, 2015, 12:18:05 AM

Over 200k BTC have changed hands in the past three days. I daresay the stolen coins have cleared the market long since. After that, there's a demand deficiency until testicles are grown back. Then the asks are thin going up, although the whole ask book moves down a wee in the meanwhile. Finally, the reconciliation phase occurs, after everyone has had a chance to sleep on it a couple of times, and a new state of common knowledge is formed.

It will be interesting to look back on the posts leading up to the dumpage. Who was all for shorting before the public knowledge wave started?

How much cash you think it would take to wipe out all the shorts out there?

Maybe they are trying to accumulate replacement coins cheap at other exchanges?

Quote from: maranello1561 on January 06, 2015, 12:19:16 AM

Quote from: chopstick on January 05, 2015, 11:56:24 PM

Hey guys, bitstamp got haxxed, did you hear?!?!

Are you sure it wasnt a Goxx-ed, i.e. inside job ... the ceo and his cto buddy probably just smoking it all off as we speak on booze and pot and babes...

Wasn't the current head of Bitstamp until recently working for the SEC? If this happened at BTC-e I would be worried

Quote from: relm9 on January 06, 2015, 12:46:49 AM

I really doubt Stamp has to resort to market buys to get that BTC. They probably can buy it in bulk from one of their partners. 19K is a lot, but not a crazy amount either.

True. I thought about this after I said it. They could probably just buy from a mine or a private seller

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 06, 2015, 01:27:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 06, 2015, 01:14:18 AM

Quote from: relm9 on January 06, 2015, 12:46:49 AM

I really doubt Stamp has to resort to market buys to get that BTC. They probably can buy it in bulk from one of their partners. 19K is a lot, but not a crazy amount either.

True. I thought about this after I said it. They could probably just buy from a mine or a private seller

Bitstamp used to do business directly with Bitfinex.

This article says Bitfinex used to include the Bitstamp order book in their own order book for liquidity purposes. In other words, they were arbitraging between themselves and Bitstamp.

http://bitcoinvista.com/2014/06/12/the-bitcoin-trading-platform-bitfinex-is-distancing-themselves-from-bitstamp/

Thinking about it Bitstamp could probably do a deal directly with Bitfinex or other companies they have connections to.

They could just call this guy:

Quote from: janos666 on January 06, 2015, 01:37:04 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 06, 2015, 01:32:22 AM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 06, 2015, 01:27:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 06, 2015, 01:14:18 AM

Quote from: relm9 on January 06, 2015, 12:46:49 AM

I really doubt Stamp has to resort to market buys to get that BTC. They probably can buy it in bulk from one of their partners. 19K is a lot, but not a crazy amount either.

True. I thought about this after I said it. They could probably just buy from a mine or a private seller

Bitstamp used to do business directly with Bitfinex.

This article says Bitfinex used to include the Bitstamp order book in their own order book for liquidity purposes. In other words, they were arbitraging between themselves and Bitstamp.

http://bitcoinvista.com/2014/06/12/the-bitcoin-trading-platform-bitfinex-is-distancing-themselves-from-bitstamp/

Thinking about it Bitstamp could probably do a deal directly with Bitfinex or other companies they have connections to.

They could just call this guy:

Or wait for the next USMS auction...

Or that. How many are still left?

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 06, 2015, 01:39:44 AM

Quote from: pjviitas on January 06, 2015, 01:35:33 AM

As every hour ticks by more and more bad shit seems to be creeping into this story.

Question is...what's the collateral damage going to look like?

There's a new statement from Bitstamp here.

https://www.bitstamp.net/

"An important message to our customers:

January 6, 2015, 12:34am UTC: We have temporarily suspended Bitstamp services. Bitstamp customers can rest assured that their bitcoins held with us prior to temporary suspension of services on January 5th (at 9am UTC) are completely safe and will be honored in full.

On January 4th, some of Bitstamp’s operational wallets were compromised, resulting in a loss of less than 19,000 BTC. Upon learning of the breach, we immediately notified all customers that they should no longer make deposits to previously issued bitcoin deposit addresses. To repeat, customers should NOT make any deposits to previously issued bitcoin deposit addresses. As an additional security measure, we suspended our systems while we fully investigate the incident and actively engage with law enforcement officials.

This breach represents a small fraction of Bitstamp’s total bitcoin reserves, the overwhelming majority of which are held in secure offline cold storage systems. We would like to reassure all Bitstamp customers that their balances held prior to our temporary suspension of services will not be affected and will be honored in full.

We appreciate customers’ patience during this disruption of services. We are working to transfer a secure backup of the Bitstamp site onto a new safe environment and will be bringing this online in the coming days. Customers can stay informed via updates on our website, on Twitter (@Bitstamp) and through Bitstamp customer support at support@bitstamp.net.

- Bitstamp Team "

So they got pleny enough to go around. But the hacker still has 19,000 coins

Quote from: 42t on January 06, 2015, 02:36:53 AM

Looks like he's saying it was done by a terrorist group, which would be just wonderful news for Bitcoin. Let uncle sam start thinking that shit is funding ISIS, and BTC could gain a whole new set of problems.

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:00:36 AM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 06, 2015, 11:43:19 PM

Quote from: 42t on January 06, 2015, 11:37:10 PM

Quote from: ejinte on January 06, 2015, 11:30:09 PM

I don't think bitstamp is trying to buy any coins

It seems like it'd be cheaper to just buy them back from the thief lol, it wouldn't make sense for them to purchase them with a markup.

Also, we have all seen the Pastebin by now with the wallet containing the stolen BTC, where every transaction says Bitstamp Hack, however I have not seen it in any news articles on the hack. Am I overlooking it, or are the reporters?

Bter brought coins back from the hacker that robbed it.

I have no problem with that. Consider it a "security assessment fee"

Unless it was an inside job, of course.

We're losing another exchange in February. VoS is shuttering its crypto doors

I'd like to see 300 hold first Roll Eyes

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:10:10 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2015, 12:05:05 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:00:36 AM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 06, 2015, 11:43:19 PM

Quote from: 42t on January 06, 2015, 11:37:10 PM

Quote from: ejinte on January 06, 2015, 11:30:09 PM

I don't think bitstamp is trying to buy any coins

It seems like it'd be cheaper to just buy them back from the thief lol, it wouldn't make sense for them to purchase them with a markup.

Also, we have all seen the Pastebin by now with the wallet containing the stolen BTC, where every transaction says Bitstamp Hack, however I have not seen it in any news articles on the hack. Am I overlooking it, or are the reporters?

Bter brought coins back from the hacker that robbed it.

I have no problem with that. Consider it a "security assessment fee"

Unless it was an inside job, of course.

We're losing another exchange in February. VoS is shuttering its crypto doors

Yeah, I know, it was nice to have at least some kind of alternative/competition for virtex, but the volume and liquidity at vos was pretty pathetic... At least they weren't hacked.

I wish them all the best on their new endeavors. And I hope virtex doesn't use this as an excuse to raise their already high fees.

cbeast is right, we need to get on this P2P exchange business pronto. Trusted third parties are so 2014, man

Quote from: Richy_T on January 07, 2015, 12:20:09 AM

Have to say I'm surprised I didn't have to tweak the scaling factor between Stamp and Finex. Quite similar market depths there.

How many shorts are there?

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:38:31 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 07, 2015, 12:20:09 AM

Have to say I'm surprised I didn't have to tweak the scaling factor between Stamp and Finex. Quite similar market depths there.

I'm impressed by how stable the finex feed is, no more missing data segments, yet.

I wonder if those problems with the stamp feed were some kind of signal or precursor?

You guys are daytrading again, aren't you Roll Eyes

Quote from: Omikifuse on January 07, 2015, 12:47:41 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2015, 12:41:44 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:38:31 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 07, 2015, 12:20:09 AM

Have to say I'm surprised I didn't have to tweak the scaling factor between Stamp and Finex. Quite similar market depths there.

I'm impressed by how stable the finex feed is, no more missing data segments, yet.

I wonder if those problems with the stamp feed were some kind of signal or precursor?

You guys are daytrading again, aren't you Roll Eyes

not those who left all their coins on stamp

Forced to hodl for another day or two

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:51:53 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2015, 12:41:44 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 07, 2015, 12:38:31 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 07, 2015, 12:20:09 AM

Have to say I'm surprised I didn't have to tweak the scaling factor between Stamp and Finex. Quite similar market depths there.

I'm impressed by how stable the finex feed is, no more missing data segments, yet.

I wonder if those problems with the stamp feed were some kind of signal or precursor?

You guys are daytrading again, aren't you Roll Eyes

LOL!

Yup! Been "day trading" ever since 450 CAD

Every payday I trade as much fiat for bitcoin as I can afford to. Wink

amidoingitright?

Haha. I do think so Cheesy

Quote from: 42t on January 07, 2015, 01:01:28 AM

Could be jumping the gun here, but is Coinbase down?

EDIT: It now reads this: Coinbase is currently offline

No cached version is available.

The most likely causes:

The server is down for maintenance
There may be a network problem
The site may be experiencing excessive load
Retry for a live version of the site

We'll post updates on Twitter if the problem persists

Down here too.

Edit: the square world can't handle Bitcoin. It keeps busting through their primative machines!

Quote from: Omikifuse on January 07, 2015, 01:11:42 AM

Quote from: ivyleague1985 on January 07, 2015, 01:08:54 AM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on January 07, 2015, 01:05:02 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2015, 01:04:26 AM

Quote from: 42t on January 07, 2015, 01:01:28 AM

Could be jumping the gun here, but is Coinbase down?

EDIT: It now reads this: Coinbase is currently offline

No cached version is available.

The most likely causes:

The server is down for maintenance
There may be a network problem
The site may be experiencing excessive load
Retry for a live version of the site

We'll post updates on Twitter if the problem persists

Down here too

Ditto

COINBASE IS BACK ONLINE NOW!

Sad

Was expecting more cheap coins by panic people Sad

Quote from: inca on January 07, 2015, 01:51:25 PM

Quote from: octaft on January 07, 2015, 01:49:28 PM

Quote from: inca on January 07, 2015, 01:39:26 PM

You've gone awfully quiet about ripple..

Because he sold, duh.

Neatly illustrating my point yesterday that he book talks constantly.

What's book talk?

Who brought gender into the trollbox?? Roll Eyes

Leave that shit at the door

Quote from: Walsoraj on January 08, 2015, 01:09:08 AM

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2row67/bitstamp_response_on_fiat_withdrawal/

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Below you will find the email that one of our subscribers sent to Bitstamp, followed by their response (after 20minutes).

To whom it may concern,

Until you bring the trading service online, I would like proceed by WITHDRAWING my FUNDS, not coins. Is there a particular reason I can't do that at the moment? I understand the "trading" / "coins" part, but the fiat part, where my money is stored in a bank account, is another matter.

Why have I been restricted access to my cash, especially now that you cannot provide any responsible ETA?

Best Regards,

xxax xxlxoxx

Sent from Samsung Mobile

Dear customer,

For the time being, you cannot withdraw bitcoins or fiat held with us. This is because we have temporarily suspended our services in an attempt to make sure that all of our customers’ Bitcoin and personal information remain safe. In addition; the technical and accounting issues related to your request would be too great from a risk based perspective for a secure re-launch of our website and service as a whole.
We are working to restore our full services in the coming days, at which time you’ll be able to resume withdrawals, deposits, and other Bitstamp services.

We’ll keep you updated as we know more about timing, both on our Twitter handle and website.

Best regards,

Bitstamp Support

Note that our subscriber's account holds more than $250k. For that amount we think that he deserves more than just a template email response.

We really hope for the best.

I love how the Ripple guy has an upside down suit as an avatar. It's perfect Wink

DUMP DUMP DUMP

DAMN. Nice detective work that

Quote from: inca on January 08, 2015, 08:24:19 AM

I may have missed it but btc swaps (shorts) now up another 1800 coins to an ATH busting 24,600 contracts.

Someone has dumped a roughly similar number of coins to slide us back to 290.

Long USD swaps are still quite low at 19,200,000 USD. The interest rate on USD is still lower than BTC suggesting BTC are in higher demand currently (unusual).

If this is retail (you) continuing to short then we will have fireworks upwards soon. If it is a whale buying up all supply it could be yo prevent further shorting or to dump on the market.

Bitcoin is too expensive to pump now. I honestly don't expect it back above 300USD. But revolution doesn't come cheap. I ain't mad at it

Quote from: inca on January 08, 2015, 08:31:34 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 08, 2015, 08:28:11 AM

Bitcoin is too expensive to pump now. I honestly don't expect it back above 300USD. But revolution doesn't come cheap. I ain't mad at it

No, just wrong. A simple glance at the historical price chart for the last year and a half demonstrates that clearly.

I don't know. My relationship with Bitcoin began in the heady days of the great dump. My glasses are coloured different

Anybody observe the wall of 300 coins at btc-e?

Quote from: macsga on January 08, 2015, 09:25:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 08, 2015, 09:05:39 AM

Anybody observe the wall of 300 coins at btc-e?

No. We only observe serious exchanges here. MtGox, Bitstamp etc... Grin

88 new coins in the Bitstamp hack address. Someone didn't hear the news or what?

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 08, 2015, 01:13:35 PM

Good morning gentlemen! Everything good?

A place where there isn't any trouble. Do you suppose there is such a place, Toto? There must be.
It's not a place you can get to by a boat or a train. It's far, far away. Behind the moon, beyond the rain...

Everything is normal

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 08, 2015, 11:29:09 PM

This is not my first multi-year bear market. I just got a second job and not only will I not be selling anymore coins, but I will be adding to my position until either after the next ATH or if it never comes, after I retire.

I don't care if it tanks to $10 dollars again. That just gives me the opportunity to buy a whole lot more. How do you hunt bears? Patiently.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 08, 2015, 11:40:58 PM

Quote from: podyx on January 08, 2015, 11:34:37 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 08, 2015, 11:29:09 PM

This is not my first multi-year bear market. I just got a second job and not only will I not be selling anymore coins, but I will be adding to my position until either after the next ATH or if it never comes, after I retire.

I don't care if it tanks to $10 dollars again. That just gives me the opportunity to buy a whole lot more. How do you hunt bears? Patiently.

Don't you think another coin would take bitcoin's place if it were to go down to $10 though? I mean, sure, bitcoin is the crypto-currency which gets mentioned all the time and it was the first one but when we come down to those low levels, I think it'll be the sharp money which decides which one will grow big and they will probably choose a better one.

That's roughly akin to saying oil replaced coal when the industrial revolution switched from steam to internal combustion, so coal is now worthless. I think it likely that BTC will remain a good investment even if something else proves to be an even better investment.

It's not roughly akin to saying that at all. Oil and coal are substantially different things. A clone of Bitcoin will still be Bitcoin, call it what you will

Quote from: Son0fLamb on January 08, 2015, 11:09:01 PM

WTF?! That's not even...

That...that ain't right that

Quote from: Tzupy on January 08, 2015, 11:52:24 PM

If within an hour there won't be sustained buying, another dump gets highly probable.

I'd also like to go out on a limb and say the probability of another dump is highly probably

Quote from: Tzupy on January 09, 2015, 12:07:37 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 09, 2015, 12:04:41 AM

Bitfinex will destroy Bitcoin.

That's an overstatement, but it just took the bearish lead.

It's the leveraged short capital of Bitcoinlandia!

Quote from: Elwar on January 09, 2015, 08:15:26 AM

WTF!?

Quote from: freedomno1 on January 09, 2015, 08:33:34 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 09, 2015, 08:22:45 AM

Quote from: Elwar on January 09, 2015, 08:15:26 AM

WTF!?

Im sorry BMB the correct answer was
*adjusts monocle* Cheesy

_
And their eyes aren't that big XD

hehe

Quote from: bitcodo on January 09, 2015, 08:37:35 AM

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The @bitstamp team is working around the clock to restore services to customers as soon as possible. More to do, but testing is going well.

still waiting

I was just reading an old thread about people selling IOU's for coins stuck in MtGox. It was ugly...

Quote from: freedomno1 on January 09, 2015, 08:46:52 AM

Quote from: Elwar on January 09, 2015, 08:42:21 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 09, 2015, 08:39:10 AM

Quote from: bitcodo on January 09, 2015, 08:37:35 AM

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The @bitstamp team is working around the clock to restore services to customers as soon as possible. More to do, but testing is going well.

still waiting

I was just reading an old thread about people selling IOU's for coins stuck in MtGox. It was ugly...

I almost jumped on that, the return was very tempting. I think like 10:1

Ditto.
I thought wait a minute if I do this then I will be in a real long return period, and looking back on it was a wise move to not take that risk even at 10:1.
I haven't been keeping up with gox so not sure if they ever converted the retrieved coins to fiat
If it was in BTC lol. If it was in Fiat still bad but at those hedge ratios still not worth it ^^.

There seems to have been many tempting opportunites to have lost your shirt along the way here. I wonder if I would have fallen in with that Pirateat40 guy and lost mine. Or pre-ordered hardware that never paid off. It was a jungle in here Undecided

Quote from: Elwar on January 09, 2015, 08:59:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 09, 2015, 08:48:55 AM

There seems to have been many tempting opportunites to have lost your shirt along the way here. I wonder if I would have fallen in with that Pirateat40 guy and lost mine. Or pre-ordered hardware that never paid off. It was a jungle in here Undecided

I think with Pirate he had a thread like so many you see "I have a way to make you money, give me your bitcoins". The only people who made any money on that were taking such a huge risk by being the initial people to give him bitcoins. Then as they started getting returns they verified that it was "legitimate" and others started sending him their bitcoins. Those first people are probably the only ones that didn't lose their shirts. By the time it seemed "safe" (because of so many claiming they were getting what they were promised) the money was gone.

Trendon Shavers I think was his name. I mentioned it once in the Cryptodouble thread. Nobody seemed too concerned. I guess these things are cyclical Embarrassed

Quote from: luckygenough56 on January 09, 2015, 11:49:50 PM

i'm feeling bullish but it doesn't feel quite right to feel bullish just before the week-end

I've got used to picking up dumps...

Quote from: Tzupy on January 10, 2015, 12:51:25 AM

China dumping, BFX bid wall withdrawn.

They chose to regard price and disacquire currency? Shocked

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 10, 2015, 01:09:21 AM

Would it be impertinent for me to write again "the Chinese set the price, and they don't give a damn about Bitstamp"?

I almost answered the above question with a question lol

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 01:40:03 AM

Hey @adamstgBit, why have you deleted your post? :/
"Starting to think bitcoin is dead Sad

", it was here a moment ago before I refreshed...
Has something caused you to change your mind or have you just realised you were drunk posting again?

He probably saw what the upside-down Ripple guy saw and got scared...Quote went fast tho:D

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 10, 2015, 01:45:37 AM

if you zoom out a little you see we are only down 7%, zoom out some more and we are down 15%, take another step back and we are down 53%, from the sustained high of 800 we are down mother fucking 65%, from ATH we are down mother fucking stupid ass bitch fest fuck tard bear bubble 76%

Cry

@ 200$ bitcoin would be down 83% from ATH
@ 100$ bitcoin would be down 91% from ATH
@ 50$ bitcoin would be down 96% from ATH
@ 10$ bitcoin would be down 99% from ATH

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 01:40:03 AM

Hey @adamstgBit, why have you deleted your post? :/
"Starting to think bitcoin is dead Sad

", it was here a moment ago before I refreshed...
Has something caused you to change your mind or have you just realised you were drunk posting again?

bitcoin isn't dead, its dying...

Cry

The ATH was meaningless. Welcome to club poor town ville.

Quote from: solex on January 10, 2015, 01:48:57 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 10, 2015, 01:45:37 AM

bitcoin isn't dead, its dying...

Cry

Aha, the sound of a towel thrown into the ring. Must be the cycle low after all.

Just a LITTLE lower still yet Grin

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 10, 2015, 01:57:29 AM

What bids?

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 10, 2015, 01:58:51 AM

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 01:51:49 AM

Remember: this is gentlemen, not pussies.

Hey, don't forget Nanobrain, Trollchop and BitChick.

Remember the words, gentlemen.

Honeybadger don't give a shit.

He'll wake up...eventually

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 10, 2015, 02:10:22 AM

Quote from: chopstick on January 10, 2015, 02:04:31 AM

... Stop being a n00b and stack up those bits, comrade.

LOL. Laziest meme ever award

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 02:15:19 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 10, 2015, 01:58:51 AM

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 01:51:49 AM

Remember: this is gentlemen, not pussies.

Hey, don't forget Nanobrain, Trollchop and BitChick.

Ekhm... We're not pussies, sir, we're ladies. If you want to be accurate, you can say "this is ladies and gentlemen, not pussies".

Lots of dumps left to go around...

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 02:26:21 AM

Think of it as aggressive coin redistribution, bro Wink

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 02:15:19 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 10, 2015, 01:58:51 AM

Quote from: diabLEEca on January 10, 2015, 01:51:49 AM

Remember: this is gentlemen, not pussies.

Hey, don't forget Nanobrain, Trollchop and BitChick.

Ekhm... We're not pussies, sir, we're ladies. If you want to be accurate, you can say "this is ladies and gentlemen, not pussies".

Lots of dumps left to go around...

Quote from: bizz on January 10, 2015, 09:55:08 AM

Is this Ladies??

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin Shocked

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 09:52:00 AM

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin Shocked

Sometime countries ban short selling in downtrends. Funny things happen then. Index goes up for a short time only to crash even more later because no one is there to buy(cover) anymore.

That sounds kind of pro-short selling. If I get your point

Quote from: molecular on January 10, 2015, 10:09:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 09:52:00 AM

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin Shocked

Unless you're talking about naked short selling (which can only be done to the extent that people leave their coins on the exchanges) I'm not with you: a bottom will be found somewhere.

Reasoning: at 0.001 USD/BTC I will buy all offered coins and transfer them to my cold storage. Probably before that price is reached others will act similarly. No BTC swaps can be legitimately offered then and hence no short-selling can occur.

If this is a possible outcome, I stand-by my initial assessment

Quote from: bizz on January 10, 2015, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: molecular on January 10, 2015, 10:09:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 09:52:00 AM

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin Shocked

Unless you're talking about naked short selling (which can only be done to the extent that people leave their coins on the exchanges) I'm not with you: a bottom will be found somewhere.

Reasoning: at 0.001 USD/BTC I will buy all offered coins and transfer them to my cold storage. Probably before that price is reached others will act similarly. No BTC swaps can be legitimately offered then and hence no short-selling can occur.

Also: If there was no short selling some miners would not be in business at all as they could not hedge. Some traders would not trade at all for last 12 months, meaning less liquidity meaning no big player would ever even look at Bitcoin. Some exchanges would already be broke, this forum would have no trolls ... who wants that kind of life?

Makes good sense. I wish I met you months ago Embarrassed

Quote from: outahere on January 10, 2015, 10:25:36 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 10:23:08 AM

Quote from: bizz on January 10, 2015, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: molecular on January 10, 2015, 10:09:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 09:52:00 AM

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin Shocked

Unless you're talking about naked short selling (which can only be done to the extent that people leave their coins on the exchanges) I'm not with you: a bottom will be found somewhere.

Reasoning: at 0.001 USD/BTC I will buy all offered coins and transfer them to my cold storage. Probably before that price is reached others will act similarly. No BTC swaps can be legitimately offered then and hence no short-selling can occur.

Also: If there was no short selling some miners would not be in business at all as they could not hedge. Some traders would not trade at all for last 12 months, meaning less liquidity meaning no big player would ever even look at Bitcoin. Some exchanges would already be broke, this forum would have no trolls ... who wants that kind of life?

Makes good sense. I wish I met you months ago Embarrassed

"How I Quit Worrying and Learned to Love the Volatility" by Stanley Nakamoto

Quote from: outahere on January 10, 2015, 10:33:35 AM

The Bitstamp thing was nothing. In Bitcoin you need to be ready for the unexpected.

I've heard rumours that a handful of whales are just walking us down slowly..

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 10:52:08 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 10, 2015, 10:33:35 AM

The Bitstamp thing was nothing. In Bitcoin you need to be ready for the unexpected.

I've heard rumours that a handful of whales are just walking us down slowly..

Quote from: bad trader on January 10, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 10, 2015, 10:25:30 AM

There is absolutely no guarantee there will be a price increase again.

Back in the early days bitcoins actually came with a slip of paper titled "Guarantee of Price Increase" signed by Satoshi Nakamoto.

Quote from: Warren Buffett on January 10, 2015, 11:04:47 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 10, 2015, 10:19:28 AM

Quote from: Stevenirving on January 10, 2015, 07:34:20 AM

Just pass 300
Come coin.
You can do it.

I believe in you

Don't you get it? Traders want 250 coins because 280 is crazy expensive.
At 250 they'll want 220 coins because 250 is crazy expensive.

This has been going on since 1200 and won't stop till Bitcoin is dead.
(...)

Nobody complained when "traders" (bots, mostly) inflated this silly bubble, but now they are the worst and are going to kill bitcoin?

You can't kill what never had life.

Quote from: bad trader on January 10, 2015, 11:13:33 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 11:03:19 AM

Quote from: bad trader on January 10, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 10, 2015, 10:25:30 AM

There is absolutely no guarantee there will be a price increase again.

Back in the early days bitcoins actually came with a slip of paper titled "Guarantee of Price Increase" signed by Satoshi Nakamoto.

I changed my mind after I realized ShroomsKit was saying the same old stupid stuff to someone else saying stupid stuff. So I guess I should have just let it be and made popcorn.

Quote from: Gameovernow on January 10, 2015, 11:32:41 AM

Quote from: gizmoh on January 10, 2015, 11:25:44 AM

Step by step, a Revolution is coming ...

Overstock.com offers employees all-bitcoin paychecks

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/overstockcom-offers-employees-all-bitcoin-paychecks-2015-01-09

Then their employees better don't take the option or cash out the second they received the coin,unless they want to work for free*

* earn 80% less yearly

You think we're going down another 80% this year do you? Tell us more about that

Quote from: oda.krell on January 10, 2015, 02:02:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 09:52:00 AM

I think short-selling will never end. It's a powerful negative feedback loop. Bitcoiners are killing Bitcoin

Correction: "Bitcoiners", i.e. Bitcoin market participants, some - but not all - of which hold an optimistic long-term view on the network itself, are using the available financial tools to bring price back to a level at which inflow of fresh capital roughly matches the network's inherent monetary base inflation, adjusted (both up and down, but lately mainly: down) by longer-term speculative expectations of the market.

Oh. That is heavy Undecided

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 10, 2015, 05:37:05 PM

Quote from: Ultros on January 10, 2015, 05:29:10 PM

Beartrolls:

deadhorse.gif

Bitcoin not ded!!1!

You saw this coming a mile away. I tip my hat to you, sir

Quote from: mmitech on January 10, 2015, 06:01:52 PM

I still think that Bitcoin will hit double digits, it will be just slow and painful path for many of you here, I will ride the ship only when most of you delusional cultists and get rich kids abandon it....

Understood

Quote from: Torque on January 10, 2015, 06:11:41 PM

Quote from: heartastack on January 10, 2015, 06:08:28 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2015, 06:04:13 PM

Quote from: mmitech on January 10, 2015, 06:01:52 PM

I still think that Bitcoin will hit double digits, it will be just slow and painful path for many of you here, I will ride the ship only when most of you delusional cultists and get rich kids abandon it....

Understood

Affirmative

Because mmitech is a soothsayer and has a crystal ball, so everything he says must be true

Because he registered February 18, 2013, 07:29:47 PM and probably has enough coins to do it himself. There are no bids left!

Quote from: mmitech on January 10, 2015, 08:14:04 PM

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 10, 2015, 08:13:08 PM

Quote from: mmitech on January 10, 2015, 08:07:31 PM

...
But Monkeys don't give a shit as long as you promise them bananas.

After over a year of not getting any bananas, the monkeys would realize they're getting gypped. Not Bitcoiners tho.

don't forget that a monkey is still a monkey

You guys are my bananas Kiss

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 11, 2015, 12:37:01 AM

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Quote from: Christ is King on January 10, 2015, 08:31:25 PM

Does anyone expect price to rise soon? I told my church that bitcoin was misunderstood by the media and that it's actually the best form of money ever created, because it's for the people and not controlled by greedy bankers. The pastor agreed that Christ himself would have approved and they invested a small fortune. But he's getting worried now, because the price keeps going down. What should we do?

Even bitchick has a sock puppet account... hahahahahahaha

despair

Maybe?

There are a lot of us who continue to hodl and buy, yet there are a lot of us who are beginning to take desperate measures, too because we did NOT expect the downtrend to last so long or to continue so deeply.

Surprise!

I am NOT sure whether "surprise" is the right word for it because each of us has our own mixture of sentiments, rationalizations and preparations. Nonetheless, there is some element of "surprise" that seems to describe my own sentiment regarding the current state of affairs with BTC's price....

Yes. Quite.

*adjusts monocle*

Quote from: kodtycoon on January 11, 2015, 01:32:09 AM

Quote from: DeadCoin on January 11, 2015, 01:31:15 AM

Offtopic question,
How do I chose avatar picture on this forum? I tried to put Kodrić, Karpeles or Jeff Robinson on my profile picture but it doesn't work, how do I do it?

not able to any more.. that function got disabled so anyone who has one is stuck with it afaik and anyone who doesnt have one, cant get one..

If you have one you can request it to be removed. (I don't know why I know this.)

Quote from: DeadCoin on January 11, 2015, 02:01:53 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 01:36:41 AM

Quote from: DeadCoin on January 11, 2015, 01:31:15 AM

Offtopic question,
How do I chose avatar picture on this forum? I tried to put Kodrić, Karpeles or Jeff Robinson on my profile picture but it doesn't work, how do I do it?

You can't.

That is one of the outstanding unsolved technical problems of bitcoin. It is one of the reasons why I am skeptical about its future. If those so-called bitcoin experts cannot even fix that… Grin

There are more reasons to be sceptical about bitcoin than just a stupid avatar issue. If that is what lead you to be sceptcial about bitcoin, you're a bit slow. It was doomed already before that!

Quote from: Brewins on January 11, 2015, 02:18:32 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 01:36:41 AM

Quote from: DeadCoin on January 11, 2015, 01:31:15 AM

Offtopic question,
How do I chose avatar picture on this forum? I tried to put Kodrić, Karpeles or Jeff Robinson on my profile picture but it doesn't work, how do I do it?

You can't.

That is one of the outstanding unsolved technical problems of bitcoin. It is one of the reasons why I am skeptical about its future. If those so-called bitcoin experts cannot even fix that… Grin

Do you realize that Theymos has nothing to do with any Bitcoin core development or any development directly related to Bitcoin, right?

Also if credit card and banks were so paranoid about security it would avoid many headaches for most of his customers and for themselves too

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:00:15 AM

My ignore list is growing fast. Over 200 so far.

Is that bullish?

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:19:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:03:35 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:00:15 AM

My ignore list is growing fast. Over 200 so far.

Is that bullish?

It's bull-something.

Speaking of which...

Who is this and why is he so smug?

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/551533923663355904

Quote from: Brewins on January 11, 2015, 04:27:34 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:03:35 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:00:15 AM

My ignore list is growing fast. Over 200 so far.

Is that bullish?

it is off topic add nothing to talk-ish

There was no topic to go off. The walls are all gone. Now we just come here to loiter

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:31:03 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:24:09 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:19:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:03:35 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:00:15 AM

My ignore list is growing fast. Over 200 so far.

Is that bullish?

It's bull-something.

Speaking of which...

Who is this and why is he so smug?

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/551533923663355904

He's bullish. Maybe he's eating cheap coins!

Our own Jorge Stolfi seems pretty concerned about that investment fund for someone with only an academic interest in the subject...

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:35:40 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:33:28 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:31:03 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:24:09 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:19:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:03:35 AM

Quote from: outahere on January 11, 2015, 04:00:15 AM

My ignore list is growing fast. Over 200 so far.

Is that bullish?

It's bull-something.

Speaking of which...

Who is this and why is he so smug?

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/551533923663355904

He's bullish. Maybe he's eating cheap coins!

Our own Jorge Stolfi seems pretty concerned about that investment fund for someone with only an academic interest in the subject...

He says he doesn't own bitcoins, he never said he didn't invest in them.

I see...

Quote from: Blazin604 on January 11, 2015, 04:51:20 AM

Everyone should buy while you can. Monday expect a jump when fresh fiat hits the exchanges

Buy now or cry later is it then?

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 04:56:29 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 04:33:28 AM

Who is this and why is he so smug?
https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/551533923663355904
Our own Jorge Stolfi seems pretty concerned about that investment fund for someone with only an academic interest in the subject...

That was a rhetorical quesiton, right? he was CEO of SecondMarket and still is CEO (or whatever) of SecondMarket's BIT fund.

The frauds and crimes are the features of this "industry" that I find most entertaining. Danny Brewster story, for example, would be too ridiculously unbelievable if it was a a work of fiction. I have been following closely MtGOX, AMT miners, BFL, GAWminers, BitcoinRain, ...

SecondMarket is the only bitcoin fund for which we have day-by-day investment data, thanks to the user who monitors it and maintains the thread devoted to it. Too bad that we don't have similar threads for PBP and the other funds. I don't even know how much investment PBP got. Nor GABI, Exante, ...

As you may know, SM BIT has suspended withdrawals (redemptions, liquidations) since last October. With a good excuse, of course.

I find them sort of heart-breaking. Bitcoin is a wonder, but she makes and breaks men faster than silver

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 05:04:26 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 05:01:10 AM

I find them sort of heart-breaking. Bitcoin is a wonder, but makes and breaks men faster than silver

I see bitcoin as a computer technology experiment, that was appropriated by various groups and pushed as something that it was never intended to be, and is nowhere ready to be.

Agreed.

Edit. As a rule I dislike Libertarianism, mostly as it has been co-opted by the right, but I was drawn to Bitcoin for purely political reasons; I think the world needs slightly more liberty than it currently has. Unfortunately as it stands crypto just seems clumsy and liable to hurt anyone who goes near it

Quote from: Walsoraj on January 11, 2015, 05:13:43 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 05:04:26 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 05:01:10 AM

I find them sort of heart-breaking. Bitcoin is a wonder, but makes and breaks men faster than silver

I see bitcoin as a computer technology experiment, that was appropriated by various groups and pushed as something that it was never intended to be, and is nowhere ready to be.

Let's cut to the chase, which altcoin do you recommend? Cheesy

*Cue upside-down Ripple suit

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 11, 2015, 05:36:21 AM

Quote from: Walsoraj on January 11, 2015, 05:13:43 AM

Let's cut to the chase, which altcoin do you recommend? Cheesy

None especially at the moment, but Paycoin seems interesting, perhaps it will be even more interesting than Neo & Bee. I had great hopes for Brock Pierce's RealCoin, but I have never heard of it again. I wonder if Autumn Radtke was working on one. Perhaps Sergei Mavrodi will launch something, now that he is in the Bitcoin Foundation?

Let's buy bitcoins today!!

LOL. Oh mercy Embarrassed

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 11, 2015, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 11, 2015, 09:56:43 PM

...
I try to maintain a balanced outlook, but permabears can be so ridiculous I have to laugh at them.

If permabulls were anywhere near as foolish, I'd laugh at them too.

Quote from: JimboToronto on May 25, 2014, 12:59:41 AM

This old chestnut again?

I'll say the same as I did 6 months ago or a month ago.

We'll probably reach our old ATH by mid summer, and hit anywhere from $7000 to $12,000 before crashing down to $2000-$2500, possibly before year's end.

We should be above $10,000 for good by this time next year.

Unless something comes along to break Bitcoin before then.

Was this book talk?

Quote from: illyiller on January 11, 2015, 10:43:01 PM

Looks like a bounce here? No longer confident in this level holding though. I'll wait for a confirmed uptrend before buying back. On the daily at least. Don't care about buying the very bottom.

Join the club

Quote from: podyx on January 11, 2015, 11:18:13 PM

Bears are in a euphoria to be honest. Same way bulls were at $1100

Slightly worrying as I'm still looking to scoop cheaper

Dude seriously tho: do you just keep doubling down?

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 12, 2015, 01:18:28 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 11, 2015, 10:10:20 PM

Quote from: Trollchop on January 11, 2015, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 11, 2015, 09:56:43 PM

...
I try to maintain a balanced outlook, but permabears can be so ridiculous I have to laugh at them.

If permabulls were anywhere near as foolish, I'd laugh at them too.

-Same tired old out-of-context quote from last spring-

Was this book talk?

More like prevailing sentiment at that time.

Kinda like the currently accepted "wisdom" that Bitcoin is destined to fall to double or single digits.

Time will tell.
_______

Trollchop knows I have her on ignore so I can only guess at her feeble attempts to discredit my posts. The fact that she posted this old crap yet again speaks volumes.

Does she still post thorazine ads and make references to incontinence?

LOL Absolutely pathetic.

Roll Eyes

Not sure about NLC but there is a small army of Ripple shills now. I bet they pay their trolls in BTC Wink

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 12, 2015, 01:30:51 AM

Nice little chart if you want to explain Bitcoin to anyone.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/01/daily-chart-3

I'd suggest waiting until it bottoms before trying to explain it to anyone...

We are the pioneers destined for these arrows Embarrassed

Quote from: outahere on January 12, 2015, 04:08:28 AM

Quote from: bclcjunkie on January 12, 2015, 03:48:37 AM

Gavin is throwing tantrums around again... looks like bitch fight is brewing up...

http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/

once the upcoming squeeze is over that hard fork fud should come handy to squeeze longs..

There's no issue. Miners can't keep up with transactions and get backed up at times because the block size is too small. Miners just don't want to spend more to upgrade a little. It's all on the miners.

Did you read that declaration of war? He compares Gavin to Trendon Shavers. Is this the lunatic fringe of Bitcoin?

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 12:24:01 AM

Quote from: Thomas-s on January 13, 2015, 12:17:16 AM

So, one of the biggest mining pool stopped mining.
This is actually good news™?

They didn't stop mining, they just stopped giving the coins out to the paying customers.

Price matters.

Funny. I just discovered the company in my sig has stopped paying customers.

I feel dirty

Quote from: Son0fLamb on January 13, 2015, 12:29:55 AM

^
They prob'ly also stopped paying *you* for the sig Huh

No. They are continuing with the sig campaign Roll Eyes

They can do it without me

Edit: I hate when scammers turn me into a moralfag:/

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 12:34:21 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 13, 2015, 12:31:58 AM

Quote from: Son0fLamb on January 13, 2015, 12:29:55 AM

^
They prob'ly also stopped paying *you* for the sig Huh

No. They are continuing with the sig campaign Roll Eyes

They can do it without me

Edit: I hate when scammers turn me into a moralfag:/

Just for the record, what company was it?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=832448.msg9688394#msg9688394

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=875272.msg10131390#msg10131390

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 12:46:48 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 13, 2015, 12:37:25 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 12:34:21 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 13, 2015, 12:31:58 AM

Quote from: Son0fLamb on January 13, 2015, 12:29:55 AM

^
They prob'ly also stopped paying *you* for the sig Huh

No. They are continuing with the sig campaign Roll Eyes

They can do it without me

Edit: I hate when scammers turn me into a moralfag:/

Just for the record, what company was it?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=832448.msg9688394#msg9688394

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=875272.msg10131390#msg10131390

Thanks. Also, pretty nice little dump on finex just now.

Cheap coins incoming?

Lamestream media says $250 has to hold or it will destroy all confidence. I wonder if any whales are listening

People have been cleaning up all year going short. I wonder if they will be able to stop

Quote from: derpinheimer on January 13, 2015, 01:13:04 AM

Is the tone... double bottom? Rocket time? Yes, yes I think it is!

Quote from: pjviitas on January 13, 2015, 01:35:56 AM

Wow...I can't believe I am here to watch this shit go down!!!

Remarkable...totally remarkable.

This is kind of like when it went to $1100 but opposite!!!

That time sounded like more fun. I'm sorry I missed it Embarrassed

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 01:48:16 AM

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 13, 2015, 01:39:50 AM

Come on lamb chop, this is some historic shit happening right now!

Can't you come up with something new?

I think it would be very interesting to know him in person. I hope when we bottom out he comes back as a normal

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 13, 2015, 01:50:36 AM

Quote from: shmadz on January 13, 2015, 01:48:16 AM

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 13, 2015, 01:39:50 AM

Come on lamb chop, this is some historic shit happening right now!

Can't you come up with something new?

Bro, I'm driving Cheesy

LMAO. See!

Remember when this was Gentlemen?

Quote from: pjviitas on January 13, 2015, 03:00:59 AM

Quote from: BoatsandBitcheswithBits on January 13, 2015, 02:58:46 AM

Dudes, when do the rewards get cut?
2016 sometime, right?

Reward-Drop ETA: 2016-07-30 09:40:46 UTC (80 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 40 minutes)

http://bitcoinclock.com/

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 13, 2015, 03:04:06 AM

Still not accepting that it was just one big pump&dump and moving on with life?

Good choice, gentlemen.

I prefer to marry my mistakes. It's the spice of life, really

Quote from: zeroday on January 13, 2015, 03:20:11 AM

Just bought some

Donating to charity?

Quote from: Elwar on January 13, 2015, 01:06:57 PM

East coast waking up thinking

Go buy some bitcoins Roll Eyes

CCMF

Quote from: JamesBrown on January 13, 2015, 01:50:47 PM

Quote from: fonsie on January 13, 2015, 01:37:14 PM

These price crashes sure attract a lot of Newbies to this thread, saddly they haven't got anything meaningfull to say. Grin

as a newbie myself I mainly have questions, however pple seem to come here for the memes instead.

Quote from: gizmoh on January 13, 2015, 02:15:08 PM

Quote from: Eamorr on January 13, 2015, 02:06:12 PM

Quote from: findftp on January 13, 2015, 01:55:57 PM

Still, there might be some panic left.
Support is lacking.
I foresee a possibility towards 160.
I won't trade on it though. I'm already all in Grin

I agree. I would say support is completely lacking.

If there was support, you'd see volume in the rebounds. There is none.

Give it a few days , buyers are careful, waiting for consolidation before jumping back.

Quote from: dakota neat on January 13, 2015, 02:26:49 PM

Yeah, it's done. Sub 200 means for me:
- Exiting all BTC related projects
- Shut down my full nodes
- Get a boring 9to5 job again Sad

Satoshi still has to dump. Poor guy Lips sealed

Quote from: magicmexican on January 13, 2015, 10:51:04 PM

Gentlemen, disaster, prepare for minus tripple digits.

And hero members shilling for GAW. This is the end

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 13, 2015, 11:05:14 PM

Quote from: Dilla on January 13, 2015, 11:02:50 PM

I wonder if the 100s will hold? 200s went quicker than 300s, 300s went quicker than 400s. We may see double digits. Surely THAT will hold... Undecided

My wallet can't send fast enough!

We need in wallet exchanges for super panic dumping

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 13, 2015, 11:05:43 PM

Quote from: Dilla on January 13, 2015, 11:02:50 PM

I wonder if the 100s will hold? 200s went quicker than 300s, 300s went quicker than 400s. We may see double digits. Surely THAT will hold... Undecided

Almost as if there's a pattern developing...

*No room left for updates, will have to make a new gif Sad

I've been watching that gif all the way down. I will miss it. Always listen to trolls, it seems. Who knew Huh

CaVirtex is dumping harder than Russia Shocked

Quote from: hmmmstrange on January 14, 2015, 12:55:58 AM

Quote from: Chalkbot on January 14, 2015, 12:47:54 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 14, 2015, 12:31:27 AM

But mainly I do not like scammers and sleazy people who lie to take other people's money. Perhaps because I am rather easy to fool myself. And I have never seen a community so packed with crooks and criminals as the bitcoin community. Politicians, judges, cops, bankers, even professors -- there is plenty of corruption among them, but nowhere near as much as among the bitcoiners.

What? How did you determine the density of scammers among the bitcoiners? This is exactly the opposite of my experience with bitcoin and the community surrounding it. I've never been scammed by anyone here, and in 90% of all of my own transactions, I've opted not to use any type of escrow.

Also, the entire notion that a scammer would only accept a specific currency is ridiculous. A scammer will take whatever you'll give him. I get emails every week from scammers trying to scam, and I've yet to see one requesting bitcoin as the payment mechanism.

How are you keeping track of all the scams that happen with cash? I assume you have some very sophisticated tools if you're able to make this comparison.

Maybe you've been fooled?

Jorge is speaking from position, as one who has stolen millions of dollars from the people of Brazil.

Link?

Nobody here got a couple million handy for a short squeeze?

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:36:06 AM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on January 14, 2015, 01:32:45 AM

how high do you guess are the chance to go sub $200?

If I would speculate on some facts I would look at perhaps a new mining option offered by https://megabigpower.com/ running new Bitfury hardware.

The key is that when it becomes profitable to buy BTC vs hardware, business opportunities do present themselves.

As far as the bear market shorting works even for newbies on a downtrend. How many will be able to cope with a reversal?

What's a 'reversal' Huh

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:51:47 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 14, 2015, 01:49:17 AM

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:36:06 AM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on January 14, 2015, 01:32:45 AM

how high do you guess are the chance to go sub $200?

If I would speculate on some facts I would look at perhaps a new mining option offered by https://megabigpower.com/ running new Bitfury hardware.

The key is that when it becomes profitable to buy BTC vs hardware, business opportunities do present themselves.

As far as the bear market shorting works even for newbies on a downtrend. How many will be able to cope with a reversal?

What's a 'reversal' Huh

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/04/031004.asp
Market Reversals And How To Spot Them
By Matt Blackman

It was complicated. Reads like a bull trap

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:59:58 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 14, 2015, 01:58:11 AM

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:51:47 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 14, 2015, 01:49:17 AM

Quote from: Sitarow on January 14, 2015, 01:36:06 AM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on January 14, 2015, 01:32:45 AM

how high do you guess are the chance to go sub $200?

If I would speculate on some facts I would look at perhaps a new mining option offered by https://megabigpower.com/ running new Bitfury hardware.

The key is that when it becomes profitable to buy BTC vs hardware, business opportunities do present themselves.

As far as the bear market shorting works even for newbies on a downtrend. How many will be able to cope with a reversal?

What's a 'reversal' Huh

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/04/031004.asp
Market Reversals And How To Spot Them
By Matt Blackman

It was complicated. Reads like a bull trap

It is an important tool used by many bears.

A ten-day pattern followed by a bull trap?

Quote from: DaRude on January 14, 2015, 02:16:20 AM

Any prevailing theories for this dump? Can't keep up with all the posts. I'm guessing the terrorism and the proposed crack down on cryptography in UK/EU served as a catalyst?

I think Russia super banned Bitcoin

Except for Btc-e, most Bitcoin related sites are now blocked

Quote from: dwdoc on January 14, 2015, 03:53:13 AM

There is a risk that if too many miners go offline block creation may stall.

Honeybadger will adjust?

Quote from: twiifm on January 14, 2015, 03:55:14 AM

Quote from: smracer on January 14, 2015, 03:47:05 AM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on January 14, 2015, 03:43:52 AM

Jesus fucking christ

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/astoria/man-killed-by-roommate-astoria-apartment-nypd-says

When there is blood in the streets it is time to buy.

Stop. It's hammer time

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on January 14, 2015, 03:58:54 AM

Now we got a price where I really start to worry and think about to sell with a loss of 75% Cry

At least I would have 25% more than in a few months when the downtrend continues. Two digits are close and it seems like there is no interest in BTC anymore. I said I will sink with the ship but seriously, that would be a huge loss for me.

There should be mutual funds. I'm a terrible trader, too. Financial freedom is hard

Welcome back to the 100's folks

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 14, 2015, 11:32:48 PM

what the fucking shit is going on!

Agreed.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 14, 2015, 10:32:22 PM

Quote from: BTCtrader71 on January 14, 2015, 10:17:22 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 14, 2015, 10:10:18 PM

They prolly started with much less, but have easily doubled up or more during every raid making them ~16X more powerful than when they started- 32X if you count this last one. These are technically skilled traders to begin with who would be profitable traders even if they weren't market movers and market makers. When you have skill to begin with, it takes much less ammo to push the market in the direction it wants to go anyway. Even I could walk it up and walk it back on a slow day with very low volume and--as has been pointed out several times--am just a hick fireman.

Surely they don't risk all of their capital every time. One miscalculation or piece of bad luck and you get wiped out.

They don't have to risk all of it because they are so powerful, they only risk what they need to risk. They were going to push the market down until there was a long squeeze. I have no idea how much of their capital it took but surely not all of it. The problem is there has been no real bounce yet like the other four raids. This is new. They may have been too successful in accumulating coins and now they have (like me ironically) too many coins that aren't worth anything. Yes, we can leverage them up to push the market higher, but not sustainably without a fresh infusion of fiat.

This may be an unrecoverable stall without Big Money coming to the rescue and who knows how long we're going to bleed before the vultures come in and pick over our carcasses. I am not selling, but I have to prepare for an indefinite period without additional income.

This doesn't sound promising at all

Quote from: outahere on January 15, 2015, 12:23:34 AM

CCMF!

Dude. Just no

Quote from: jonoiv on January 15, 2015, 12:39:02 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 15, 2015, 12:21:58 AM

Quote from: jonoiv on January 15, 2015, 12:17:07 AM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 15, 2015, 12:06:28 AM

Quote from: jonoiv on January 14, 2015, 11:59:26 PM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 14, 2015, 11:48:50 PM

Who is still shorting??? Shocked

And finex didn't even fall much...

USD 0.0243% 0.0662% 14,105,693.21 USD
BTC 0.0494% 0.0444% 26,954.87 BTC

Shorts new ATH. Longs at the lowest level since May.

There arn't that many shorting

Someone is taking out BTC credit swaps to raise the price for the few people who are shorting. to remove liquidity.

They did it with LTC coin too, you can look here and see http://www.bfxdata.com/

Where is written how many btc swaps is atualy shorted?
Swaps have the same timing as the price movement...

In some cases yes.

I was watcching the charts quite closely and the live swaps as they come in, there are a large number of swaps going through that do not get traded.

It happens with both BTC and LTC. Good example look at the LTC spike 15:37 11th Jan, the swaps jumped to 191k from 127k in 1 go, http://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/totals.php

I was watching and nothing was sold, The swap was closed a little later after that period of selling pressure passed. (for the time being)

I have been studying it for a while.

Quote from: jonoiv on December 20, 2014, 01:56:51 PM

Why does a 1015 BTC short show up here http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php

but not on wisdom https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd

Any ideas?

Shorts are not as high as someone wants us to think they are. Bitcoin is being sold, not shorted!

Did you honestly go bust bro?

Yep, i'm out! lost it all, I didn't think a $70 liquidation price would be a problem, but famous last words.

Leverage is scary shit. Sorry dude

Where is NotLambChop when I need him Huh

We're still dying, right? I'm not buying again, am I?

Where's the dump?

I got paid yesterday. It's like the bloody bit powers that be can read my mind. Correction or bust!

This London four-punch still at it Huh

Why are these candles so small??

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 16, 2015, 12:52:37 AM

Quote from: JamesBrown on January 16, 2015, 12:45:28 AM

Bears seem to have went to sleep?
WarrenBuffert and his "crew" not dumping 1000BTC in 3 phases anymore?

Wait, you're proud that for the first day since ever, the price hasn't tanked? I remember bulls being huge fans of "The Big Picture." "Zoom Out," they say. So zoom out from 24hrs to 3d | 7d | 30d | 6m. Yep.
Bears farting through silk is all I see Cool

LOL

You think we have more hard times ahead?

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 16, 2015, 02:03:41 AM

Quote from: BTCtrader71 on January 16, 2015, 01:59:37 AM

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 16, 2015, 01:53:58 AM

^What you need to stop doing is typing shit into the intertubes when you have nothing to say. You wanted me to watch some YouTube vid clip to basically insult me? How old are you, kid? What's next, RickRolling?

Intertubes?

Those are inner tubes, illiterate Bitcoiner. This is what you want:

Quote from: shmadz on January 16, 2015, 02:18:27 AM

Quote from: octaft on January 16, 2015, 01:55:24 AM

Both sides agreed to make the sale because the price was plummeting, all the ruling will determine is who gets the profit from that sale.

Interesting, let's assume that the coins sold for an average of 300 bucks each, so 15 million dollars...

Do you think 15 million dollar market buy today would get you more than 50,000 bitcoins? Or less?

They will just pay a hax0r to steal another hot wallet. Easy peasy

Quote from: Blitz on January 16, 2015, 03:12:15 AM

lambchop, plz stop the tedious debates and post some bullish pix,

thx

+1

Quote from: Odalv on January 16, 2015, 11:54:01 PM

Quote from: Tornate on January 16, 2015, 11:05:11 PM

I just created a meme for you guys.

There are bulltards who bought 100(or more) btc at $10(or less) (invested $1,000) and sold 2 btc at $1,000 ($1,000 profit). Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.

Quote from: Odalv on January 17, 2015, 12:03:54 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2015, 11:57:45 PM

Quote from: Odalv on January 16, 2015, 11:54:01 PM

Quote from: Tornate on January 16, 2015, 11:05:11 PM

I just created a meme for you guys.

There are bulltards who bought 100(or more) btc at $10(or less) (invested $1,000) and sold 2 btc at $1,000 ($1,000 profit). Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.

winkle brothers bought 200,000 btc @ $2 ... do you think they are bag holders ? (they do not need to sell more that 2,000 btc @ $200 to recover)

Those bosters are nothing to be proud of

Ok guys seriously. What comes after the stutter-step sideways action? We dumping again?

Quote from: thefunkybits on January 17, 2015, 01:24:19 AM

CAVIRTEX orderbook is stacked...

You noticed that too, eh. Canadians are optimistic Undecided

Quote from: kodtycoon on January 17, 2015, 01:31:11 AM

break out at any moment

Were there any specific technical indicators that led you to this conclusion?

Quote from: ssmc2 on January 17, 2015, 01:38:01 AM

Quote from: Dilla on January 17, 2015, 01:36:45 AM

When is this "big news" coming out for fucks sake?

You got trolled.

Ya. You should try not to get trolled so much Tongue

Quote from: Dilla on January 17, 2015, 01:40:19 AM

Lol c'mon, don't act like you want to know what that fat guy was talking about.

Quote from: WeltMaster on January 17, 2015, 03:15:27 AM

For all you waiting for <$200 coins..

I think you might be waiting a while Cheesy

We can wait while we do other things Wink

Waiting is easy

Should have spent my bitcoins on fancy Heroin months ago Cry

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 17, 2015, 10:57:11 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 17, 2015, 10:53:17 AM

Should have spent my bitcoins on fancy Heroin months ago Cry

Heroin is for lil bitches.
Step your drugz game up bruh.

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on January 17, 2015, 01:35:17 PM

Quote from: podyx on January 17, 2015, 01:19:47 PM

What has unknown been before? It's 25% on 4 days so could just be variance

This has been discussed a million times before. It just means hash power that isn't accurately attributed to a specific pool. It doesn't mean anything.

Oh

Quote from: Wekkel on January 17, 2015, 01:41:13 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 17, 2015, 01:38:23 PM

Quote from: coa032 on January 17, 2015, 01:07:49 PM

Perfect timing and price for buying more cheap Bitcoin. We are still early adopters.

Haha no you aren't. Stop fooling yourself.

Depends on how you define 'early adopter'.

This is Bitcoin. So under $20 a coin...

The Winkles paid what? Two bucks? Roll Eyes

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 17, 2015, 05:21:13 PM

...

Not looking good, gentlemen Sad

Ugh

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 17, 2015, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: razorramon on January 17, 2015, 06:56:27 PM

btw. okcoin ceo says bitcoin is totally legal in china

You can trust him, or your own eyes:

I like how on the desk there is a naked dagger and what looks to be some kind of Bitcoin disk? Really hits home...

Quote from: YourMother on January 17, 2015, 11:43:10 PM

Nothing to add...

I can buy 30% less smack now than I could last week. Bloody ridiculous

Quote from: YourMother on January 18, 2015, 01:11:56 AM

Guess what happens next, goofy bulls.

Quote from: octaft on January 18, 2015, 02:31:41 AM

Quote from: Nightowlace on January 18, 2015, 12:50:39 AM

Quote from: octaft on January 18, 2015, 12:22:05 AM

You're kind of missing the point. You can also use a credit card at newegg, which for the vast majority of consumers would be easier and more convenient than using bitcoin.

Can't use a credit card to buy drugs, though.

False. Squareup.com turns every drug dealers iPhone into a credit card processing machine. I was just reading an article about how apps like that are allowing drug dealers, bookies, etc. take CC payments.

Allow me to rephrase: using or accepting credit cards to buy drugs would probably be a very dumb idea.

Because charge-backs

Quote from: Notanon on January 18, 2015, 04:11:13 AM

$250 by the end of the month, I reckon.

Silver parity at this rate

Quote from: medialab101 on January 18, 2015, 08:43:10 AM

Nice pump going on at the moment Shocked

Somebody wanted to buy thousands of coins at $200. Had to eat through some walls to get them

Two giant green dildos. Totally not a trap Roll Eyes

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 18, 2015, 02:19:55 PM

Quote from: inca on January 18, 2015, 02:15:28 PM

...
His absence until the price has stopped rising..guaranteed.

Bitcoin shits itself whenever I come in. Not my fault Undecided

LOL. Such mornings Cheesy

Quote from: Gatekeeper on January 18, 2015, 03:02:45 PM

Quote from: YourMother on January 18, 2015, 02:01:21 PM

Look at them...

So happy that their coin was pumped out of nowhere to 220. Just like i said, they will be happy to see it grow from $100 to $120, then from $50 to $70, even though the fucks bought at $1000.

Pathetic

so bitter mmmmmmmmmmmm haha
your posts become more retarded,desperate,bitter and angry by the day, it's hilarious to read your ramblings and see how bitter you are.

LOL at your sig. Klye still live over in the PRC trollbox?

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 18, 2015, 11:04:15 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on January 18, 2015, 11:00:41 PM

Quote from: criptix on January 18, 2015, 11:00:01 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on January 18, 2015, 10:59:09 PM

For shits and giggles let's say tomorrow we get 2 announcements, one that the Bitlicense is ready (and it looks good), and the other that the ETF is officially approved. Speculate on the madness that ensues. Tongue

3 words:

epic short sqeeze

It would be beautiful.

Keep dreaming, bulls. It's about the only thing you can still afford

When that $30K coin action hits it will be lambo city all over again. Look out Tongue

Quote from: Eamorr on January 18, 2015, 11:42:31 PM

Quote from: razorramon on January 18, 2015, 11:36:10 PM

this week looks super exciting

I'm bored silly here.

Join a club. Try to get out more

Quote from: razorramon on January 19, 2015, 12:01:46 AM

@eamorr & @blindmayorbitcoin

well maybe you should find yourself a hobby that fits you better?

O RLY?

Bitfinex pump machine is on again

Quote from: Miz4r on January 19, 2015, 01:26:49 AM

Looks like Bitstamp has started buying back the 19k stolen coins.

I thought it started at Finex. Anybody see who shot first?

Quote from: outahere on January 19, 2015, 01:37:18 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 19, 2015, 12:34:16 AM

troll weather report : usual hate-filled trollers with general overcast outlook of negative nattering nay-bobs.

however drugs, guns, and terrorist talk drying up.

BULLISH!

My drugs poll was really getting good tho Embarrassed

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928310.0

Quote from: Brewins on January 19, 2015, 01:50:48 AM

Quote from: ronald98 on January 19, 2015, 01:49:08 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 19, 2015, 01:28:06 AM

Quote from: Miz4r on January 19, 2015, 01:26:49 AM

Looks like Bitstamp has started buying back the 19k stolen coins.

I thought it started at Finex. Anybody see who shot first?

If they decided to buy them on exchanges why would they wait until now rather than buy at ~150 to ~160?

maybe they expected even bigger drops?

Maybe they were waiting for a big wall of cheap coins to eat?

Quote from: outahere on January 19, 2015, 02:18:11 AM

Bitcoin is the World's Best Performing Currency of the last 24 hours!

ZOMG CCMF's!!!

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 20, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 20, 2015, 10:25:50 PM

Barry Silbert knows! His syndicate didn't win auction for nothing Grin

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/557584594523136000

His syndicate was just a way for small bidders to bid at the auction. Secondmarket just collected their bids and packaged them into the 2000-3000 BTC lots. Neither he nor SecondMarket placed bids of their own at the auction. They just collected the 1% fee from those bidders who won.

Only people winning now with Bitcoin are middle-men Angry

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 21, 2015, 12:32:58 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on January 21, 2015, 12:11:34 AM

Quote from: tarmi on January 21, 2015, 12:09:37 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 20, 2015, 11:50:24 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 20, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 20, 2015, 10:25:50 PM

Barry Silbert knows! His syndicate didn't win auction for nothing Grin

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/557584594523136000

His syndicate was just a way for small bidders to bid at the auction. Secondmarket just collected their bids and packaged them into the 2000-3000 BTC lots. Neither he nor SecondMarket placed bids of their own at the auction. They just collected the 1% fee from those bidders who won.

Only people winning now with Bitcoin are middle-men Angry

I find that hilarious, because bitcoin was intended to be "money without middle man".

if you are dealing drugs, doing ponzi schemes bitcoin is just great, but if you want to do something legally you need a middle man. ring a bell?

yes, we are reinventing the wheel and making new crypto banksters.

I think the average personage will need to evolve a fair bit more before they grow out of the desire for middlemen.

middlemen are collecting the fiat-crypto bridge toll, this can only last until crypto is widespread then the bridge becomes worthless.

if you are good enough you do not need to use the middlemen either.

There will always be a fiat-crypto bridge. Trolls can slip under it on occasion. But to get on there will always be a toll.

Quote from: DaRude on January 23, 2015, 05:36:06 AM

WTF happened Huh

I couldn't trade without all the trolls so i was hitting F5 for the last 24 hrs

LOL

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on January 23, 2015, 05:54:49 AM

Stop this shit, I get it on this point.

Just a little dump, it's still good

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 24, 2015, 01:09:29 AM

Quote from: jaberwock on January 24, 2015, 12:01:20 AM

where are lamb chop, Stolfi, fewcoins and others nowhere but down people now?

RAWR

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 24, 2015, 04:29:50 AM

Quote from: Blazin604 on January 24, 2015, 04:13:04 AM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 24, 2015, 03:09:23 AM

Seriously?

Yes seriously I don't know

Are you allergic to Google or reading back a few pages?

It is going to be a exchange that has kissed enough asses hopefully not to get fucked with to hard.

+ a little bullshit FDIC (they only cover $250,000)

Still very good news.

Good to have a solid Brown Noser in the group... let alone two identical Wink

GJ fellas

I'm digging the news out of Europe too... honestly more than the FDIC exchange.

Shouldn't you be off pumping HUC or CLAMS or something Roll Eyes

Quote from: empowering on January 24, 2015, 02:31:39 PM

Arpeggio..... sounds like a broken (re)chord. Cheesy

I did a funny.

HA!

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 24, 2015, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on January 24, 2015, 02:23:39 PM

Quote from: GaliX on January 24, 2015, 02:17:17 PM

This market it really easy to trade because there're so many emotional noobs trading it. And yes I was one of the noobs here back even before the China pump in December 2013. But I have learned a lot since then about markets.

The fact that you guys are even comparing BTC to other markets shows your lack of understanding. No one has a clue which way the price will go, and that includes the people saying down.

Indeed no one has a clue, but it would help to admit that China still sets the price.

The Nov/2013 rally (and perhaps also the Apr/2013 one) were created by Chinese demand, and the Chinese exchanges have set the price since then. Although many of Chinese who bought coins at that time appear to have sold them, Chinese day-traders are still in control.

Since the big rally, the price has reacted almost exclusively to events that are relevant to the Chinese traders, and has completely ignored events that are relevant only to the West -- such as Dell and Microsoft "accepting bitcoin", Bitstamp being hacked, the USMS auction, Bill Gates saying that bitcoin will not succeed, and the the 70 trillion dollars that banks just invested in Coinbase.

Now, one would expect the Bitcoin media to start from that fact, and get some staff or correspondents in China to report on the state of the Chinese market so that Western traders can use that as a basis for their predictions.

But they will never do that, obviously. Bitcoin sites do not get a penny from investors or day traders, so they don't care about their fortunes at all. Their revenue comes entirely from advertising and subsidies from bitcoin enterprises, so they must suppress any news that could hurt them.

And those enterprises would hate if their prospective clients were aware about the role of China. "If you invest in our fund, rest assured that the future of your money will rest entirely on the mood of ten thousand amateur commodity traders in China, who prefer bitcoin to garlic because its price is much more volatile." "Our ETF shares are expected to yield 1000% ROI in a couple of years, as soon as we find a new market for bitcoin that is 10x the size of China's". "We are quite certain than the price of bitcoin will not drop to double digits tomorrow, because we cannot believe that the PBoC would be so mean as to further tighten the restrictions on Chinese exchanges."

So, all news and articles in the bitcoin media start from the premise that "China is irrelevant", and are careful to cultivate that misconception in the readers. Just as they will try to hide (or not even look for) the unpleasant facts about user adoption, security, miner influence, and more. Instead, they will fill the space with useless technical analysis, bogus theories like "Willy was responsible for the 2013 bubble", interviews of bitcoiners about its wonderful future, and thinly disguised addvertisements and press releases.

CCMF?

Quote from: elasticband on January 24, 2015, 04:30:40 PM

guess i'm a bit home sick today....... we even have beautiful cattle in Scotland

OMG Y U SO FLUFFY COW?!?!?

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it's always cawld damp and dreich this time of year, but then you get the beautiful snow

Until you've lived some years above the 60'th parallel, you don't even know about "cawld"

Home sweet home

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on January 25, 2015, 12:11:47 AM

You guys let me down ... where the heck is all the CCMF pics?!!!

Is this gentlemen?

Quote from: Wekkel on January 25, 2015, 12:37:02 PM

Gentlemen, price does not care for your argument.

Their argument is irrelephant

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www.Just-dice.com

Actually looks quite interesting. I was a big fan of seals with clubs until I lost everything (I suck at poker even worse than I suck at bitcoin speculation Tongue

)

You should see me rage-roll a pair of dice Embarrassed

Quote from: rpietila on January 26, 2015, 01:31:07 AM

Condolences to those who sold at $170. They should have known better.

At least $ buys more € now so you can come to Europe and waste your money as long as it is still possible Cheesy

Ugh. Don't you have a shill thread to attend to?

Grin

I kid, I kid

Quote from: bitpop on January 26, 2015, 02:15:38 AM

Was professor bitcorn wrong again?

Who?

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Was professor bitcorn wrong again?

Who?

http://professorbitcorn.com

No. I know who he is Wink

My handle was supposed to be ironical

Quote from: mavericklm on January 26, 2015, 02:53:55 AM

soon china will wake up and maybe they will continue the rally Roll Eyes

Who started this rumour about traders sleeping?

WTF happened Shocked

I knew I should have sold and bought back lower. That pump was mental!

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 26, 2015, 10:56:43 PM

Aaaaand four hours of low volume melt-up wiped out.

4 hours? It was at $260 4 hours ago.

This dip barely touched $270.

Feeling bearish today?

Yes, for today. Tomorrow is another story.

Understandable.

I think we all knew there would be a profit-taking/retracement/beartrap/correction today after last night's shenanigans.

It's just a matter of how far. I'll stick with my call from last night (and reaffirmed this morning) and say that if we finish over $260 I'll consider the day to be a success.

Did you trade that pump dude?

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I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people in here are not very good at guessing the future.

OMG! I knew it

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spooderman is going to post something profound shortly.

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on January 27, 2015, 12:42:57 AM

Current chart could be defined as the "time to get out pattern".

I'm betting on sideways...IDK Cool

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A fair few longs being liquidated on 796 futures. Another sleepless night coming up I think.

When there is blood in the streets!

Blood is like 200. I was there

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A fair few longs being liquidated on 796 futures. Another sleepless night coming up I think.

When there is blood in the streets!

Blood is like 200. I was there

Meh, too much blood and I got squeezed @ Okcoin.

GG fuckin bears!

Fuck!

Never using Coinbase again.

So you're never using Coinbase because you lost your money playing with okcoin, what's the link between the two ?

he lost his money on something that will be known as the coinbase pump.

I did nothing. I wonder who feels worse Angry

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Quote from: damiano on January 27, 2015, 02:20:59 AM

How many of you are currently short?

Closed mine sub 260, need some sleep. Hoping it doesnt move too much either way in the next ~10 hours.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 27, 2015, 02:23:52 AM

Mark my words: shorts are gonna get squeezed within a month. I'm calling a $350 top, but first it's gotta go low enough to get all the bargain hunters on board.

Shorts are already down 7k in 24 hours. We need some sideways and for the amount of shorts to go up before we can really squeeze them.

We'll get plenty of sideways, I think. The Four Punch pattern gets flatter each time.

So the pattern should be sideways sideways long squeeze short squeeze?

(One fish two fish red fish blue fish?)

Quote from: galdur on January 27, 2015, 02:43:19 AM

Looking good

Man! Honeybadger don't even read the newspaper. And if it did it would be Chinese Grin

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Quote from: damiano on January 27, 2015, 02:20:59 AM

How many of you are currently short?

Closed mine sub 260, need some sleep. Hoping it doesnt move too much either way in the next ~10 hours.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 27, 2015, 02:23:52 AM

Mark my words: shorts are gonna get squeezed within a month. I'm calling a $350 top, but first it's gotta go low enough to get all the bargain hunters on board.

Shorts are already down 7k in 24 hours. We need some sideways and for the amount of shorts to go up before we can really squeeze them.

We'll get plenty of sideways, I think. The Four Punch pattern gets flatter each time.

So the pattern should be sideways sideways long squeeze short squeeze?

(One fish two fish red fish blue fish?)

No, it's crash/bounce, dip, short squeeze and second bounce. We are currently at the dip phase.

So basically we're probably looking at a double bottom. I can live with that

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EXPECT US 2015

[ANN][OCUPY] OCUPY | Pow+Pos | 3.7M Coins | ***Bounties Available*** : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848186.0

https://ocupy.net/

Fuck this ocupy bullshit scam, son.

https://twitter.com/Max_S_Dolphin/status/557173483667337217

NotHatinJustTrollin lol Your name says it all Only a Troll

He's right tho. What are we shilling shitcoins to eachother in here now?

Quote from: byronbb on January 28, 2015, 12:34:19 AM

A somewhat concerning pattern imo. Large volume hammer candles start an uptrend capped by a inverted hammer to signal downside.

If you were a trader, what would you do?

Quote from: TankHankerous on January 28, 2015, 01:15:34 AM

Is anyone going to pick up 180 dollar coins if we see them?

Yes.

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Fuck sake... should I buy a little (you know for savings not trading) looks like its a steady rise?

Why didnt you buy when it was $150's last week.
Now it is up 60% from then

why bother when next week it will be at $75

That high?

Lol, @ 75 I'm all-in

Why would you buy in at 75 when a week later it will be at 45...you see where I'm going with this right?

sub zero!

sub $0
infinite coins for everybody

Thank you both, those are two of the greatest responses i have ever seen. I can't stop laughing

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 02, 2015, 12:41:45 PM

So this is how you peasants observe walls? Experience the rarified air of Rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread Cool

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Quote from: rpietila on January 31, 2015, 07:07:23 PM

Confirming that I'll be attending the Satoshi Roundtable. It is a private (and originally rather secretive) event ...

Avoid saunas at all costs!
Breeding ground of thieves, spies and communist saboteurs...
O, that way madness lies; let me shun that; No more of that.

At a sausage fest? That's the least worries.

Rpietila's (unencripted, with wallets on it) laptop allegedly got stolen from a sauna, where he was presiding over just such a sausagefest.
That's what set off his descent into totally-not-insanity & consequent institutionalization.
He's, of course, totally all better ... now that the antipsychotics have worn off.

Have you forgotten your ban from the thread?

Yes, if I actually was mad, I would probably be hesitant to tell about it in the public forum. But if the police intercepts me on my way to the San Jose bitcoin conference and instead of jail (which is a pretty easy place in Finland) throws me into a mental facility with forced medication and refuses access to lawyer (or anyone else for that matter), I am truly pissed off.

Psychosis is a medical condition that includes a distorted perception of reality. Merely that you can do extraordinary things, or extraordinary things happen to you is not psychosis. Unfortunately it's not part of the training of the medical professionals to check if the client is speaking the truth, they only assess if it sounds credible. Of course it does not sound credible that I have $100,000s worth of some magic codes open in my computer, which can be stolen without trace so that I can't even know if they are stolen or not. Nevertheless, that is the truth. Next time I will be more merciful to them and not be so careful about the truth since it only gives trouble to both me and them. To each his own.

Make up your mind, the establishment is right and they have every right to harass me whenever they see fit and I am a nut who deserves to be harassed

OR

There is something else to it.

lmao. Quality

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Quote from: luckygenough56 on February 03, 2015, 04:40:08 PM

Lambchop works for NSA.

He is paid in btc

Paid or not, but hella motivated Cheesy

This account he has now has gotten further than any of the previous. Not sure many of you know, but this is his old account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=127503

I wondered if anyone else was aware that nlc = crumbs. Wink

And I doubt it ends there.

Isn't NotLambChop also YourFather, FatherBob, Cassandra_PR and countless other alts?

Where does he/she/it find the time? Huh

Don't be a dumbsky. I'm not NotLambchop and NotLambchop is not me and my history proves it.

My bad! I didn't know you were two different people.

Hard to differentiate from time to time.

Who gives a crap? They're both worthless trolls. Quit apologizing to trolls. You never apologize to trolls.

NLC is one of the brightest people here. He has an insane gift with the English language. Can anyone point to a post in which he has said something not specifically true? Or are there a lot of hard feelings from the run-up/dump-down that I missed?

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 03, 2015, 07:20:48 PM

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on February 03, 2015, 07:18:32 PM

That was it. Dump show is over.

Lol no. You didn't think the price was gonna stay up forever, did you? It just ain't natural.

Why all the socks tho? I don't get that

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That was it. Dump show is over.

Lol no. You didn't think the price was gonna stay up forever, did you? It just ain't natural.

I didn't. Sold and shorted at 242. Bought back just now at 228 for ~ 6% profit. Wink

You crawl out of this sewage just to dive back in? Oh well.

@BlindMayorBitcorn: Because this forum explicitly allows it.

This forum explicitly allows the promotion of ponzi schemes. You don't do that

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Quote from: macsga on February 03, 2015, 07:43:29 PM

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Do you mind altering your methods and try to fit in? This is clearly NOT working for you anymore. Undecided

Working just fine for me, why mess with perfection?

@BlindMayorBitcorn: How do you know?

We are kindred spirits and I can read your mind?

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 03, 2015, 08:39:06 PM

People been dumping again.......

Who would have known. The entire day I have seen people predicting it must go over 300 dollars overnight now or, even worse, that we're moonbound again.
I mean really: what do you expect? That Bitcoin will suddenly take off out of nowhere in an everlasting bear market? I wonder how many people bought at these prices, as they will likely regret it later on.

Most of my stash was bought at upwards of 400 dollars.
I have no choice but to HODL.
I'd rather lose it all than admit failure.

If you see the downtrend and trade accordingly, that doesn't mean defeat..

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Also, companies that "accept bitcoins" do in fact accept bitcoin. They might not hold the bitcoins, and convert them to fiat, but they do accept them.

No. They accept USD. Their payment processor accepts BTC. They do not. They do not exchange it into USD Their payment processor does. They do not. They never touch BTC . Not at all. How many times & in how many different phrasings must it be said to be understood? Why are such simple things so difficult for some here to grasp?

@Sitarow: You're being retarded. Stop being retarded, Sitarow.

I just laughed out loud tho Cheesy

No offence to anyone

I still think drugs is the best use case we have. Why don't people buy heroin anymore or what Roll Eyes

Quote from: inca on February 08, 2015, 01:17:56 AM

I wonder if the posters who keep nonchalantly referring to child pornography would kindly stop. Thanks.

How many pages back was THAT?

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I wonder if the posters who keep nonchalantly referring to child pornography would kindly stop. Thanks.

How many pages back was THAT?

Last couple.

Ok I see. Right before my heroin comment. Well you can buy anything with bitcoins now. I know a guy bought an old oil tanker with bitcoins and set it free in the Indian Ocean. No big woop. This is hardly worth trolololing about

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When you said "purchase everyday things," I didn't realize you meant meth and child porn. I stand corrected Undecided

As far as less shady stuff? Those merchants accept dollars, not BTC. That's why the BTC price is calculated for you at the moment of purchase from the real price.

I did mean everyday things. You said illegal items. I asked for proof. Non provided. Whatever, I'm off to do other things. Have a good day!

When was the last time you bought milk, butter or gas with bitcoin? And I don't mean through a payment processor.

I know those coins get converted to fiat, but how is using a payment processor not 'using bitcoin to purchase things' ?
Pretty weak comeback NLC, I expect higher quality trolling from you.

Because you're using dollar or pound or euro to buy things. That's why those things are priced in dollar or euro or pound, and BTC price is calculated at the exact moment you initiate the transaction.
If you enjoy the game of buying BTC with your money (paying a fee for the privilege), handing that BTC to a payment processor (which also profits from the deal because not charity), which, in turn, converts BTC to real money & pays the merchant you transact with, so that you can risk your money yet again on some shady exchange while BTC price pogoes around like it does ...breathe... you be my guest, but don't expect me to take your game seriously Undecided

No, I am using bitcoin to buy stuff that has a fixed price in fiat. Of course the exchange fees don't make this a consumer friendly option yet for most use cases. At the moment bitcoin enthusiasts are sponsoring exchanges and payment processors in order to make orders with bitcoin. But we are still in the bootstrapping phase, not at an end equilibrium. If I would be able to use my bitcoins almost anywhere, it removes an argument for not holding bitcoins ("can't spend them anywhere") and use cases where it might be desirable will start popping up. eg. going abroad and not having to exchange your fiat currencies. The current volatility would still stop most people from doing that, but if the fees for acquiring bitcoins are lower than fees for converting fiat money, the expected value is positive.

If I said "can't spend BTC anywhere," you would be justified in asking me to defend such a silly statement. But since I didn't, and you tried to stuff those words into my mouth, I won't.

The problem isn't that you can't spend BTC. You can spend anything, including rusty VW Beatles and recyclable plastic bottles. Though recyclable plastic bottles are a far better store of value than BTC, neither one of us would suggest that they're money. Not even if a bum agrees to take them to a redemption center and exchange them for money in exchange for a small fee or totally ripping you off.

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 08, 2015, 02:16:47 AM

people who like to talk a lot about illegal things on the internet should be careful that it doesn't just 'appear' on their computers someday (with a knock at the door) ... things like that happen.

What do you mean?

Edit: that was a weird thing to say. Why is everyone today saying such weird things?!?

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 08, 2015, 02:16:47 AM

people who like to talk a lot about illegal things on the internet should be careful that it doesn't just 'appear' on their computers someday (with a knock at the door) ... things like that happen.

quoted

People who treaten other people in the internet should be careful too

It was a threat Huh

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Quote from: bitgeek on February 08, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

Who said there always has to be a weekend pump or a weekend dump?

A lot of people. Grin

(At least for this weekend.)

People know nothing Roll Eyes

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 08, 2015, 09:43:40 PM

It could be a good thing if that exchange has gone down.
More coins are lost which limits supply hence a price rise.

Only a degen bitcoiner would look at the ruin of others as the silver lining to his own bag. Kuddos Kiss

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Quote from: GaliX on February 10, 2015, 12:46:56 AM

7 days until the Euro crashes. Can't wait.

I'm assuming you are referring to the troika's demand that Greece submit a bail-out plan that they will not submit, prompting a Greek Gov't shutdown and a massive bank-run.

If this plays out as expected, the Euro will lose value against the GBP, Swiss Franc and USD, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will crash. What it will mean for bitcoin prices is far from certain. I don't see the price appreciating significantly in US Dollars until it becomes more widely utilized as a means to evade capital controls.

Why isn't it being used this way yet??

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Quote from: GaliX on February 10, 2015, 12:46:56 AM

7 days until the Euro crashes. Can't wait.

I'm assuming you are referring to the troika's demand that Greece submit a bail-out plan that they will not submit, prompting a Greek Gov't shutdown and a massive bank-run.

If this plays out as expected, the Euro will lose value against the GBP, Swiss Franc and USD, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will crash. What it will mean for bitcoin prices is far from certain. I don't see the price appreciating significantly in US Dollars until it becomes more widely utilized as a means to evade capital controls.

Why isn't it being used this way yet??

The tools to handle the necessary amounts securely and privately are not well-developed enough for the stupid rich .... yet.

What kinds of tools do you envision?

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Quote from: GaliX on February 10, 2015, 12:46:56 AM

7 days until the Euro crashes. Can't wait.

I'm assuming you are referring to the troika's demand that Greece submit a bail-out plan that they will not submit, prompting a Greek Gov't shutdown and a massive bank-run.

If this plays out as expected, the Euro will lose value against the GBP, Swiss Franc and USD, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will crash. What it will mean for bitcoin prices is far from certain. I don't see the price appreciating significantly in US Dollars until it becomes more widely utilized as a means to evade capital controls.

Why isn't it being used this way yet??

The tools to handle the necessary amounts securely and privately are not well-developed enough for the stupid rich .... yet.

What kinds of tools do you envision?

Darkwallet + Trezor could work.

Well you can't hide a reasonable amount in a market cap of 3 billion and sliding.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 10, 2015, 02:52:07 AM

Well you can't hide a reasonable amount in a market cap of 3 billion and sliding.

If it did take hold it would be the small guys who use it first and as more use it, it enables more people who have larger holdings. If it continues to slide it obviously would not work.

Fair enough

Quote from: coins101 on February 10, 2015, 11:53:54 PM

Why is Darkcoin price on the move? PoW confirmation times down to sub 5 seconds

I think the kids these days call it a 'pump'?

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Short squeeze. So impressed Tongue

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Well China bout to wake up. Who wants to speculate on what they do

Another bunch of shorts just closed and longs are up another 200k in past 2 hours..

small jump or ccmf

make that CCMF

Squeeze is coming Roll Eyes

I'll go with short

I'll vote long

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-GIF of bear being burned-

You hate bears?

Don't hate them, pity them.

Give them hope though. Some day they may grow up and be bulls.

The Bear is in the driver's seat, folks.

Don't know how anybody missed it

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Has anyone interviewed Professor Bitcorn lately about his predictions? Becaus I'd really like some $15 coins and I'd like to know where to get them.

Ask Stolfi instead.

He says BTC is doomed long term(no date so we will never the wrong), and posts here(has this thread in his watchlist)

It doesn't work like that, he would just come up with some passive-aggressive way to change the subject to the fact that you're asking, then pose some seemingly innocuous question to the floor, to which he responds with some trolling that's already locked and loaded.

Trolfi already admitted that there was no way he could be persuaded to change his mind about bitcoin which is essentially saying his view isn't rational, even if it later turns out to be correct.

He's admittedly not a speculator. But his critique is important. He's a very bright guy

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Has anyone interviewed Professor Bitcorn lately about his predictions? Becaus I'd really like some $15 coins and I'd like to know where to get them.

Ask Stolfi instead.

He says BTC is doomed long term(no date so we will never the wrong), and posts here(has this thread in his watchlist)

It doesn't work like that, he would just come up with some passive-aggressive way to change the subject to the fact that you're asking, then pose some seemingly innocuous question to the floor, to which he responds with some trolling that's already locked and loaded.

Trolfi already admitted that there was no way he could be persuaded to change his mind about bitcoin which is essentially saying his view isn't rational, even if it later turns out to be correct.

He's admittedly not a speculator. But his critique is important. He's a very bright guy

His intelligence isn't irrelevant. His critique is based on false premises and a shocking ignorance of even basic economics. He doesn't know Adam Smith from Will Smith. He doesn't know F.A. Hayek from Selma Hayek.

To clarify: I didn't mean this as some kind of appeal to authority. I have a lazy way with words sometimes. I meant that he has made some good points. I kind of think of him as reptilia in reverse

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Has anyone interviewed Professor Bitcorn lately about his predictions? Becaus I'd really like some $15 coins and I'd like to know where to get them.

Ask Stolfi instead.

He says BTC is doomed long term(no date so we will never the wrong), and posts here(has this thread in his watchlist)

It doesn't work like that, he would just come up with some passive-aggressive way to change the subject to the fact that you're asking, then pose some seemingly innocuous question to the floor, to which he responds with some trolling that's already locked and loaded.

Trolfi already admitted that there was no way he could be persuaded to change his mind about bitcoin which is essentially saying his view isn't rational, even if it later turns out to be correct.

He's admittedly not a speculator. But his critique is important. He's a very bright guy

His intelligence isn't irrelevant. His critique is based on false premises and a shocking ignorance of even basic economics. He doesn't know Adam Smith from Will Smith. He doesn't know F.A. Hayek from Selma Hayek.

To clarify: I didn't mean this as some kind of appeal to authority. I have a lazy way with words sometimes. I meant that he has made some good points. I kind of think of him as reptilia in reverse

It's Risto (R) Pietila. He's not a lizard.

Good point

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Quote from: tabnloz on February 15, 2015, 02:44:22 AM

I think $260ish will be the top for now and we'll head back down on a big dump. Maybe that will be it for the bear?

If you really think that, you should be shorting. You'll stand to make a ton of profit and prove all these stupid perma bulls wrong.

You know what? Everyone moans and complains about the trolls, but once the price moves up like this, their absence makes this thread a little dull...

I was tempted to post a pony or something just for old times sake.

Quote from: ejinte on February 15, 2015, 03:40:13 AM

lol who is deleting posts Angry

I hate that lol. What did you lose?

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Quote from: tabnloz on February 15, 2015, 02:44:22 AM

I think $260ish will be the top for now and we'll head back down on a big dump. Maybe that will be it for the bear?

If you really think that, you should be shorting. You'll stand to make a ton of profit and prove all these stupid perma bulls wrong.

You know what? Everyone moans and complains about the trolls, but once the price moves up like this, their absence makes this thread a little dull...

It doesn't make it dull, it makes it readable. When the price is falling, every page is 90% "This user is currently ignored".

Seems to me some of them made some good points on the way down..

Quote from: rolling on February 15, 2015, 03:48:44 AM

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Quote from: tabnloz on February 15, 2015, 02:44:22 AM

I think $260ish will be the top for now and we'll head back down on a big dump. Maybe that will be it for the bear?

If you really think that, you should be shorting. You'll stand to make a ton of profit and prove all these stupid perma bulls wrong.

You know what? Everyone moans and complains about the trolls, but once the price moves up like this, their absence makes this thread a little dull...

It doesn't make it dull, it makes it readable. When the price is falling, every page is 90% "This user is currently ignored".

Seems to me some of them made some good points on the way down..

I wouldn't know. Anyone using the term "Bulltard" is ignored.

It was like a year long beargasm. Hard to believe we're out of the woods just like that

Quote from: havecoch on February 15, 2015, 01:40:17 PM

I go out for breakfast and we see a crash. grrr...

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264 wow. Looks like we are going to the moon this time

In my understanding, 300-350 is the (mental) stop-loss / short cover zone for many. Let's see

But...

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Quote from: NotLambchop on February 15, 2015, 01:22:02 PM

Bitcoin price is pumped for one reason, and one reason only: to make dumping lulzier.
You'll grasp that. Eventually.

So my bitcoins are only worth 10% more than they were worth 2 days ago?

Oh noes Cry

~75% less than it was a year ago, ~50% less than when I first told you this will end in tears Undecided

And only 100X higher than when I started this journey.

So sad Cry

WHERE WERE YOU THEN? LAMB CHOP? WHY DIDN'T YOU SAVE ME FROM MY OWN STUPIDITY WHEN BITCOIN WAS 2 DOLLARS?

Grin

He's talking to the rest of us Roll Eyes

Quote from: 12345mm on February 15, 2015, 03:11:11 PM

yuuuup sold at 260 as well ... well ... most of my holdings anyway ... sorry folks but when this thing can go up 20% in a day down 10% in 1 hour ... the *entire* value is solely being supported by those with extreme vested interests ... think of it like this ... is it worth it to drop 20K or 50K or 100K into supporting the price $10 higher than current value for an hour or two ... the answer is yes only if you have 2000 5000 or 10000 coins (or more , lots more) ... and that's the only kind of money that makes the market move at all or even stay at status quo ... these people are highly highly btc heavy and will dump lots of dollars in at this point to protect their btc value (which they can't easily liquidate without crashing the market instantly) ... it's a 3 billion market cap market that can be crashed to 0 with one 5 million $ cashout ...

This^

BJA was trying to get the lizard king to sell his castle yesterday Lips sealed

Quote from: damiano on February 15, 2015, 03:20:50 PM

Quote from: Mickeyb on February 15, 2015, 03:14:23 PM

Yet another hack, down we go again! Sad!

I don't think we will drop past 230

What do you think 7000 coins could do to the books at BTC-e?

Quote from: barbs on February 15, 2015, 03:33:01 PM

bitcoin is NOT a joke

LOL

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Quote from: tarmi on February 15, 2015, 08:17:16 PM

what do you think guys, will 210 hold?

Grin

Without knowing how much fiat is available off the books no one knows, but once again the longs have been hurt (not as bad as the Coinbase pump)

There is probably a lesson in this somewhere. Don't trust a honeybadger to hold your money?

Quote from: luckygenough56 on February 15, 2015, 08:33:53 PM

fuck crypto

Ya

How could a Bitcoin Jesus be so horribly wrong?

/sarc

Quote from: rjp55 on February 15, 2015, 08:49:25 PM

Yawn. Pumping and dumping. Same people posting same memes and same charts. Amazing what a little experience on this board will show you. I might as well watch a wheel spin instead.

At least we could be getting something done..

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Quote from: Ezmoneyezlife on February 15, 2015, 08:32:05 PM

Lawl, dudes, dont forget about 80k btc auction coming this quarter, i bet btc is gonna hit 130$ within a month.

Link/explanation please?

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 15, 2015, 10:11:11 PM

And we are now at 3 exchanges hacked today!!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2w00yo/three_exchanges_hacked_in_24_hours/

Fuck it. I'm making ~~meth~~ dinner

Quote from: nanobrain on February 15, 2015, 10:39:35 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 14, 2015, 07:37:03 AM

probably last time we will see sub-230 ... ever.

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 15, 2015, 08:57:46 PM

looks like retrace is over and a slow climb back to 280-300

Remember kids...the cultists are clueless.

A couple weeks from now they will just trot out some guff about honeybadgers like nothing happened Wink

Quote from: galdur on February 16, 2015, 08:38:50 AM

Hackers steal at least $300mn from 100 banks

Nobody is blaming bitcoin, yet. Grin

Fuck it. I blame Ripple Wink

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 18, 2015, 01:57:28 AM

the sweat from the fiat bag holders is so palpable it's almost dripping out the bottom of my computer ...
this slow grind higher must be torture sitting on interest and red short positions, worrying about a violent breakout movement that stops you out altogether?

You know it brother. I sure would hate to be holding a giant bag of cash right now. Sure dodged that bullet

Quote from: explorer on February 19, 2015, 12:57:18 AM

Damn, I lost big time when I did a market buy with my full CAD balance yesterday. That 6.87 cents would have netted more btc today for sure! Of course, that assumes CaVirGox actually sends me my btc balance...

I still got a nickel in there. Oh well

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Quote from: octaft on February 19, 2015, 01:17:43 AM

I've been checking in there every now and again, most of the stuff is in japanese, and it seems like recently they haven't even bothered to post any translations.

Every doc is translated to English. Just scroll down.

Oh shit, you're right! Thanks!

Does anyone have fiat on Virtex?!? Cheap coins...for real!!

Quote from: fonzie on February 19, 2015, 02:46:40 AM

I know that the markets are boring but you could also do something useful and become a

Certified Bitcoin Professional

Quote from: HELP.org on September 11, 2014, 01:11:33 AM

I completed the certification process at https://cryptoconsortium.org/. Took the 20 minute/75 question multiple choice test, paid $50 CAD test plus $25 CAD certificate application fee (BTC only) and uploaded a resume. Got my CBP certification in a few hours.

Or start a new exchange. A Satoshi here, a Pokemon there, a fresh coat of paint and you're good to go. Am I wrong or am I wrong?

Paint optional ofc

Quote from: brokenchair on February 22, 2015, 02:01:00 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 22, 2015, 01:54:01 PM

BTC swaps on BFX up to 20,880. Gee, I wonder why bears would be short-selling if they still had any coins to dump. I'm thinking they don't.

Lesse...bears upside-down and trapped. Can't cut losses w/o driving the price up higher. And me sitting here with this big pile of fiat. Hmmmmm. think I'll buy.

When btc holds a price for a few days, it usually goes down. Sometime today or tomorrow morning someone will dump, I am not saying a huge dump, but at least a $10 downward swing fast....like every week.
Even if what I said is not true, it prevents people like me from buying more. Plus the auction coming up and no one having a clear picture on what they are going to do (dump before, get cheaper auction, pump after and then dump, don't dump. whatever)

Although the past is not always the best indicator of the future, I expect a dump right after the auction. THIS is the pump that comes before

Quote from: empowering on February 22, 2015, 02:13:30 PM

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Quote from: brokenchair on February 22, 2015, 02:01:00 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 22, 2015, 01:54:01 PM

BTC swaps on BFX up to 20,880. Gee, I wonder why bears would be short-selling if they still had any coins to dump. I'm thinking they don't.

Lesse...bears upside-down and trapped. Can't cut losses w/o driving the price up higher. And me sitting here with this big pile of fiat. Hmmmmm. think I'll buy.

When btc holds a price for a few days, it usually goes down. Sometime today or tomorrow morning someone will dump, I am not saying a huge dump, but at least a $10 downward swing fast....like every week.
Even if what I said is not true, it prevents people like me from buying more. Plus the auction coming up and no one having a clear picture on what they are going to do (dump before, get cheaper auction, pump after and then dump, don't dump. whatever)

Although the past is not always the best indicator of the future, I expect a dump right after the auction. THIS is the pump that comes before

Some "pump"

Indeed

The problem is: trolls are funnier Cheesy

Quote from: rolling on February 23, 2015, 01:48:46 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 23, 2015, 01:40:39 AM

If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.

Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.

Miners aren't the ones selling in this market. It's pure speculative manipulation. A miner would never dump coins and cause the price to decline. They would sell the minimum number of coins necessary to cover costs at the best price possible and stock the rest for a much higher price.

Lets put this one to bed, miners are not dumping coins and they are certainly not doing them as a market order.

Best... Post... Recently.

Quote from: BlackSpidy on February 23, 2015, 02:15:08 AM

18 months... That's the halving, right? I'm excited to see first hand how these markets behave then. And, boy, the trolls are gonna have a field day fear mongering then.

Such optimism and hope Cry

KeyserSozeMC skimmed my post history once. Called me 'that meme guy' Kiss

Have a lovely week Bitcoiners. I hope.

Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:40:24 AM

Quote from: inca on February 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM

I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2015, 12:41:18 AM

Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:40:24 AM

Quote from: inca on February 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM

I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

What do you know for sure or are you guessing?

His cause has a lot of sympathy. That's all I'll say

Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:54:59 AM

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Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:46:09 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2015, 12:41:18 AM

Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:40:24 AM

Quote from: inca on February 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM

I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

What do you know for sure or are you guessing?

His cause has a lot of sympathy. That's all I'll say

Sounds shifty as fuck. What kind of degenerates are these people anyway?

Google 'degenerate bitcoiners'. What's the first entry?

The lulz never end Cheesy

^Hey I deleted that!

Cheesy

Quote from: gentlemand on February 24, 2015, 02:24:55 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2015, 02:24:07 AM

^Hey I deleted that!

Cheesy

Lemme know if you want it gone then.

No it's cool. I wasn't really making an argument. Just making conversation...

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on February 24, 2015, 08:44:55 AM

Quote from: 12345mm on February 24, 2015, 05:32:37 AM

Public Service Announcement (For Anyone Here Who Is Actually New):

All individuals considering spending any amount of money purchasing bitcoin critically need to understand several important key things about what bitcoin is and how and what other individuals with vested interest in bitcoin will say on this and other forums and "trollboxes" aka exchange chat rooms. The first thing to understand about bitcoin is that millions of bitcoins were produced or "mined" by a very small group of individuals in the first year to two years since the release of the bitcoin software, which was not widely publicized. During this time there was basically no wide scale press announcements, no merchant acceptance, and zero to little monetary value, in fact there were actually no exchanges whatsoever, and there was not any specialized hardware to produce bitcoins with. Of course, it became evident to some that it would be possible to use bitcoin as a "pump and dump" finance mechanism, since bitcoin is denominated in units as other real commodities are, and had a very low value when compared to other commodities. Some primitive exchanges were introduced at this time, and the very beginnings of merchant acceptance began popping up, as the price actually was pushed to dollar equivalency using real money. The first legitimate bubble took the price quickly from $1 to $2 to $32, and then in short order back to $2. It took another 3 years for the price to recover to around $20 in value, as public awareness of the existence of bitcoin slowly grew, and new money flowed in. It was during this time that a darkweb site known as "Silk Road" was operated based on bitcoin, which sold illegal drugs, weapons, child pornography, prostitution, assassinations for hire, and quite possibly funded terrorism. The price rose to roughly $100 per bitcoin as the demand for these horrific products and services was satisfied, and drug money was pumped back into bitcoin. This is also when the computational arms race truly kicked into high gear and powerful gaming rigs with multiple graphics cards dedicated to producing bitcoins were replaced by application specific integrated circuits, or ASICs as they are commonly known. Thankfully, the Silk Road was eventually shutdown - the price of the bitcoin dropped immediately and sharply (though today reincarnations of this dark bazaar now exist). The next critical step forward for bitcoin came in the form of an exchange known as MtGox, which was operated out of Japan by an individual by the name of Mark Karpeles. It was, at the time, the world's largest bitcoin exchange. In the fall and winter of 2013 MtGox fraudulently used an estimated one billion dollars in falsified capital (fake money) injected into their own exchange to illegally purchase an estimated 650,000 bitcoins from their customers off of their own books, and subsequently drove the price from roughly $100 to over $1200 per bitcoin. The exchange closed, citing "hacking" as the reason for their failure to continue to operate, and has to this date not returned to their customers any of their national currencies or bitcoins. At the time of the exchange closure, the approximate "real" market value of the stolen bitcoins approached $700,000,000. Mark Karpeles remains at large. In the aftermath of this massive scandal, the price of the bitcoin plummeted, and has been in a continuing downtrend ever since. To date there have been dozens of other real and alleged hacks and exchange closures frauds and ponzi schemes based on bitcoin, with losses to consumers in the tens of millions of dollars. The true identity of the creator of the bitcoin software is unknown and has been the topic of much debate. It is estimated that this individual possesses nearly 1 million bitcoins, of the roughly 13 million currently in existence, and 21 million total that will ever be produced.

In regards to what people on this forum, other forums, and chat rooms aka "troll boxes" will say to you, it is important to understand that there are a small number of individuals who have made ungodly sums of money from this thing, and there are others who have lost severely. Those with large sums of coins and have the most to gain and to lose with bitcoin typically acquired their bitcoins by purchasing them in the single digit $ range, or by producing them for free within the first year of the release of the software, when it was possible to produce hundreds of bitcoins per day with a simple laptop, or they spent a great deal of money acquiring their coins and may or may not be at a profit at this point in time - these individuals want for bitcoin to gain in value and for you to pay them for the coins they wish to sell, some out of a desire for continued profit, and some out of a desperate desire to recoup losses. Also, it is important to note that at this time, bitcoin is allowed to be traded with "short" and "long" positions on some exchanges, which to put simply means to place a bet leveraged or otherwise on whether the price will move upwards or downwards, much as derivatives markets are traded, and therefore some individuals actually stand to make a profit from the price of the bitcoin going down. Also of critical importance to potential investors is to note that bitcoins are being produced daily, at an exact rate of 3600 coins per day - if all of these produced coins are sold daily it represents a sell pressure of 3600Xcurrent market value, a not insignificant amount. Also of important note to potential investors, is today's prevalence of "bot traders" - put simply, there are automated trading programs being run on each and every exchange currently in operation, which buy and sell 24/7/365, some with deep pockets and large amounts of bitcoins. The people and bots being run by people (and some would argue, bots being run by the exchanges themselves) who possess large amounts of bitcoin and or huge fiat capital are capable of supporting and moving markets. A good piece of advice at this point to anyone interested in bitcoin is trust no one. Trust only what facts you are able to independently verify through your own research.

Wall of text observed. We're finally on-topic again!

Read this kids. Stay in school!

Quote from: nor9865 on February 24, 2015, 01:01:50 PM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on February 24, 2015, 12:59:31 PM

Quote from: BlackSpidy on February 24, 2015, 01:03:17 PM

Slow market day today Sad

You know what they say: any day above ground is a good day...

Steady grow upwards, at a stable price.
We're in for $6-$8 drop at about $250 (in three or four days), I think.

So it will pump, then dump?

You learn fast Grin

Quote from: Silverspoon on February 24, 2015, 11:52:18 PM

Nice try, pig Roll Eyes

We're too smart for that Cool

Guys, don't answer him, he's trying to entrapment us, not that we even know what he's talking about, right?

LOL

So creative. Look at the socks fly today Grin

Quote from: bassclef on February 25, 2015, 12:01:22 AM

Quote from: DaRude on February 24, 2015, 11:54:10 PM

Leveraged longs are going full retard on finex Angry

think it's a full cycle, shorts going up they turn more bulish and leverage more, shorts see longs going up and short more ...

What makes you think being long is a poor choice? With a couple of big crashes in the background, who is left to sell?

Less selling = less supply to stop rallies = rallies gain steam = bull market
Less buying = less demand to stop crashes = crashes gain steam = bear market

When 10k coin market sells doesn't do much to the price, it's time to rethink being a bear.

Got a mirror handy?

Quote from: ssmc2 on February 25, 2015, 12:05:00 AM

Quote from: bassclef on February 25, 2015, 12:02:59 AM

Is someone talking?

If an ignored troll opens his word-hole on the forum, does he make a sound??

I'm a troll now then?

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 25, 2015, 12:20:53 AM

Quote from: bassclef on February 25, 2015, 12:01:22 AM

who is left to sell?

Anybody who currently holds bitcoins for a total of 3$ billion worth of bitcoinz?

Someone is trying to shake out the big pockets. They may not be finished yet

Quote from: silverfuture on February 25, 2015, 12:26:08 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 25, 2015, 12:21:05 PM

Quote from: tarmi on February 25, 2015, 12:06:36 PM

you annoying bulls babbling about shorts and moon after a 1~2 $ rise...

50 k of old coins will hit open market soon, so you better pump this shit hard if you dont want to see 2 k batches of coins going for 150 $ or under!

You see the writing on the wall, you just like being cynical. Or you're just scared of seeming naive. Man up and take the plunge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHb2g1Tm4E

He's pissing his pants like a kid in the trenches. Time to man up!

Don't miss the rocket ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8oB2APysg

Such optimism. Oh! To be young again

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2015, 12:39:58 PM

Quote from: mymenace on February 25, 2015, 05:49:09 AM

used a bitcoin i bought for $100 to purchase a $210.00 product
win win win
luvin that wall, go BTC

You should at least have added a thank you to the hoarder, new or old, who paid the other 110$ of your bill by buying that bitcoin now. He may be reading this thread at this moment Wink

He's welcome Angry

Exciting day I see. I LOLed twice. I love this thread Cheesy

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 26, 2015, 12:34:52 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 26, 2015, 12:18:42 AM

...
My ignore list consists entirely of ChartBuddy. He just bugs me

Oh, he's alright. I hear Eliza likes him.
He should paste a picture of Tinker laughing & pointing next to each chart tho.

He's not funny. He should try to be more funny.

My father wouldn't let me bring home any friends if they weren't funny. It's just a courtesy, really

Quote from: octaft on February 27, 2015, 02:19:27 AM

Yup, about as unreadable as I remember it.

It's a horrible book Angry

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 27, 2015, 12:34:19 PM

Good morning, Bitcoiners Angry

Thought you could sneak that devious little price pump past me? Well you didn't! Nothing gets by me!
Now how about you put that price back down where it belongs, Hmm?

LOL.
Good morning:)

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 27, 2015, 01:14:16 PM

It's happening

Maybe...

^There's no ~~fighting~~ ~~crying~~ laughing sexily in the ~~War~~ Wall room!

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 28, 2015, 01:31:45 PM

Quote from: shmadz on February 28, 2015, 01:15:16 PM

....

Just wanted to quote this bit of comedy for those who might be ignoring these two.

Funniest thing I've seen in ages.

Gotta give credit where it's due.

Lett me get this strait. You are intentionally exposing people to the writings of people you know are purposefully ignored? You are doing this because you know better what people want or ought to read than they know themselves?

It's a fucking anagram, you arrogant ass clown. Circumventing users control of their own experience is a shitty thing to do here of all places. You ought to know better.

It was just a joke, bro. Don't be so sensitve!

Speaking of which: my comment that I didn't like ChartBuddy has been deleted. He must have friends in high places too;D

Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 04:55:12 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 28, 2015, 04:45:11 PM

Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 04:29:02 PM

Glad someone listens to a newbie

It's refreshing to see a newbie who's not just the sock puppet of a troll.

Thanks. I published a link to some pie charts I made here earlier today, but I got no response from this forum. Yet, more than 1.700 people have looked at them in just a few hours, ha ha Cheesy

That's almost 2 people Shocked

j/k

Quote from: wpalczynski on February 28, 2015, 05:31:36 PM

CCMF

Quote from: Andre# on February 28, 2015, 05:41:24 PM

Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 05:20:38 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 28, 2015, 05:02:58 PM

Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 04:55:12 PM

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Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 04:29:02 PM

Glad someone listens to a newbie

It's refreshing to see a newbie who's not just the sock puppet of a troll.

Thanks. I published a link to some pie charts I made here earlier today, but I got no response from this forum. Yet, more than 1.700 people have looked at them in just a few hours, ha ha Cheesy

That's almost 2 people Shocked

j/k

More than 1,700 people, silly Wink

He missed a key, he meant to type "That's almost 2k people Shocked

"

So a moth walks into a podiatrist's office...

Quote from: esse83 on February 28, 2015, 05:59:01 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 28, 2015, 05:53:11 PM

So a moth walks into a podiatrist's office...

Go on..

Listen Doc. I've had a really lousy year. I got Stamp'd, Minted, and ponzi'd. I ain't Bter about it. But my GAW'd! When I look in the mirror now...I don't recognize the face staring back at me. The year has carved deep lines of fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Dark, hollow eyes where once gleamed hope and excitement. Thin lips unable to find the smile of the happy, old days. If only I could find the courage to reach over to the side table and remove the loaded gun. And then find the strength to pull back that hammer as the chamber rotates, clicking solidly into place...Raising it to my temple for the final squeeze that will erase the last shreds of my existence from this cold wallet of a life wasted away....

Podiatrist: That sounds horrible, moth! But why are you here? Surely you need a psychiatrist. Why did you come here??
Moth: The light was on.

Quote from: Norway on February 28, 2015, 09:37:12 PM

Quote from: Afrikoin on February 28, 2015, 09:15:17 PM

point was if you dig through bitcointalk.org, you'll uncover a ton of charts on this very chart you made.

I beg to differ, sir. Not all charts are the same.
But if you can link to charts showing that if bitcoin becomes 1% of global m2, 1 BTC will hold the value of 57,000 USD, please do ;-)

You sound less like a newb and more like a backwards permabull with every post Angry

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 28, 2015, 09:39:51 PM

57,000 USD BTC's?

What planet is this on?

Grin

We're being troll'd. Surprise Roll Eyes

I think ChartBuddy has been giving me seizures Embarrassed

No hope for one of them decentralized exchanges we bitcointalk so much about?

Quote from: dunchy on March 01, 2015, 01:48:57 AM

Quote from: 12345mm on March 01, 2015, 12:30:29 AM

btc-e has indeed been run properly for years now as far as i can tell , heck i've traded there myself and never had a problem either , but as compared to exchanges in china (government doesn't fuck around) and exchanges in the u.s. (government doesn't fuck around) it would presumably be a lot easier for the btc-e exchange which is run out of croatia if i remember correctly (a not long ago war torn country) to simply disappear eventually whenever they get to X millions goal to run off with ... my rationale for trusting coinbase is that (presumably) the folks who invested 75M into it know who they gave their money to / have a few extra M to hire bounty hunters / assassins / would be able to call upon the u.s. law and financial enforcement agencies should they attempt to pull any funny business (same goes for the major chinese exchanges , as far as difficulty evading chinese law and financial agencies)

- btc-e is not run from Croatia
- Croatia was never torn by war

BTC-E uses Ceska Sporitelna bank, Czech part of the ERSTE bank group that sucks money from mostly eastern part of Europe. Account holder is Mayzus financial from London, that's behind OKPAY as well. The guys are supposedly Bulgarians, website was never fully and properly translated from Russian and support speaks extraterrestrial english. Legit bussiness.

I never understood the blind trust placed in these hands tbh. After Gox...it's puzzling.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on March 01, 2015, 02:00:13 AM

Quote from: 12345mm on March 01, 2015, 02:50:24 AM

Epileptic Virus Patch // Parangari Cutiri //

Pulsating pixels and strobe lighting are engineered to induce eye twitches and
epileptic seizures in the information weary. The Epileptic Virus Patch
transgresses the boundaries between hardware and wetware, traveling from
digital to human hosts.

http://switch.sjsu.edu/CrackingtheMaze/parangari.html

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 01, 2015, 02:36:40 AM

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Quote from: Chainsaw on March 01, 2015, 04:58:47 AM

Epileptic Virus Patch // Parangari Cutiri //

Pulsating pixels and strobe lighting are engineered to induce eye twitches and
epileptic seizures in the information weary. The Epileptic Virus Patch
transgresses the boundaries between hardware and wetware, traveling from
digital to human hosts.

http://switch.sjsu.edu/CrackingtheMaze/parangari.html

i've seen the matrix ... it was fucking frightening beyond words ... not green code like from the movie ... densely packed rectangles of spectacular light 360 degrees in all directions and flashing extremely fast between extremely bright and blinding ... lasted but a second before i snapped back to "reality" ... i assume it was some sort of a brain maintenance check ...

When the doors of perception are cleansed things will appear as they truly are: kind of derpy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P2FB9Mg_YI

Fyrstikken just did voice for a pretty hilarious new Bitcoin song.

I've had it in my head a few days. Catchy tune Cheesy

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 01, 2015, 10:40:37 AM

Where's my weekend discount? Or is this the weekend discount?

Here it comes nao Roll Eyes

Just dump it right back down.

*cue trolls

Quote from: wpalczynski on March 01, 2015, 01:23:19 PM

Or maybe, he backed up the truck and now will become a Shill.

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Quote from: edgar on March 01, 2015, 07:31:22 AM

is it not possible that cunt has finally had one of his socks banned??

When one sleeps, they all sleep. Be careful, though: lambchop is like Candyman. Call his name too many times, and he shows up.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 01, 2015, 01:35:21 PM

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 01, 2015, 09:15:16 AM

Well, the price being 252$, it means that everybody who who owns bitcoin thinks that they are worth more than 245$; but, on the other hand, everybody in the world who has some money to spare thinks that 1 BTC is not worth 255$.

You really are not much of an economist, are you ?

No appreciation of logic either. Not everyone with spare cash has heard of bitcoin yet.

How could they think that 1 BTC is worth 255$, if they haven't even heard of it?

Why weren't you here saving us from ourselves yesterday? Angry

Quote from: NotLambchop on March 01, 2015, 05:22:17 PM

Why do you keep doing it, Bitcoiners?

Think of the children!

Quote from: camolist on March 01, 2015, 08:35:41 PM

10k sale volume on bitcoin during a sunday morning and the market just laughed it off?

A little.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 01, 2015, 09:15:16 AM

Well, the price being 252$, it means that everybody who who owns bitcoin thinks that they are worth more than 245$; but, on the other hand, everybody in the world who has some money to spare thinks that 1 BTC is not worth 255$.

You really are not much of an economist, are you ? Cheesy

How does such an oversimplifying way to look at economic choice even go together with your ability to solve abstract mathematical problems?

Okay. To name just one objection to such an incredibly naive model of the market:

Misrepresentation of your actual valuation for strategic purposes.

Similar to the misrepresentation, "tactical voting", in voting theory: sometimes it is individually rational for an actor not to cast a vote according to his sincere preference.

Are we sure that this is the real Jorge Stolfi? Maybe the real Jorge Stolfi is a reasoned and thoughtful person who knows what he's talking about. Maybe we are contributing to damaging his good name and reputation by arguing with this imposter. Brazil can't be that desperate.

I've been in contact with the actual Jorge Stolfi--he himself disavows any knowledge of the imposter here who spends his days arguing with kids about Bitcoin, and whose posts coincidentally occur near the end of "troll waves" where all the trolls and their sock puppets quote each other to reinforce a point.

There is a real Jorge Stolfi Huh

Quote from: molecular on March 01, 2015, 09:49:58 PM

wtf.

that was unusually explosive, no?

Yep.

Quote from: NotLambchop on March 01, 2015, 09:56:17 PM

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Quote from: bassclef on March 01, 2015, 09:51:13 PM

Start posting trains.

Couldn't find a train

Watch the tard try to drink that beer in 3 2 ...

I think everybody forgot the 'dump it down to here' meme already...

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Quote from: bassclef on March 01, 2015, 09:10:18 PM

I've been in contact with the actual Jorge Stolfi--he himself disavows any knowledge of the imposter here who spends his days arguing with kids about Bitcoin

really!

either that, or he's also trollin' IRL . . .

I genuinely cannot believe that a working professor with a fair bit of real world rep would be up to something on here, especially the sheer volume of it. But the internet can do strange things to otherwise rational people.

Well someone is lying Shocked

Quote from: itod on March 01, 2015, 11:03:38 PM

Let me see if I got this right: Some other fund, not Winklevoss', was included on the exchange before the ETF?

No. The Winks were aiming at Nasdaq.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 02, 2015, 12:37:50 AM

bitcoin it is worth its weight in gold.

Care to explain the current price of gold then?

First you tell me the weight of a bitcoin. Cheesy

About tree fiddy.

Quote from: wpalczynski on March 02, 2015, 01:05:41 AM

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 02, 2015, 12:37:50 AM

bitcoin it is worth its weight in gold.

Care to explain the current price of gold then?

First you tell me the weight of a bitcoin. Cheesy

About tree fiddy.

lol

fo fiddy

fo fiddy?

I can't help but notice many of the cool kids have returned to the party. I assume it was something I said.

I am entertaining.

Dump it down to here, fellas!

I wasn't finished yet Angry

Quote from: 12345mm on March 03, 2015, 01:29:46 AM

Quote from: ElectricMucus on March 03, 2015, 01:27:34 AM

Rumor has it ASICMINER just scammed their customers by means of another faux "security breach"

trollgasm

yeah ... pretty sure it's impossible to steal an entire warehouse full of mining machines from an actively staffed industrial mine ...

Bunch of degen Bitcoiners anyway.

*kicks at nothing.

Quote from: Norway on March 03, 2015, 01:34:49 AM

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Quote from: 12345mm on March 03, 2015, 12:39:02 AM

gotta sail off into the sunset at some point right ? ... and know when enough is enough ... if i'm a multi millionaire but 60 or 70yrs old by the time i get there then what's the point ? i'll have won at money and failed at life at that point ... yknow ?

Yes. Buy more coins RIGHT NOW! Wink

hahahaha ... yeah ... i can't take us there so it really doesn't matter what i do ... small fish in a big big cash ocean ... so to speak ... if i make a grand back and forth trading my couple dozen coins pile in a week it's a really good week for me ... and i'm nice and comfy watching for now ...

Take a look at some pie charts I made. I had to convert 200+ currency supplies to USD manually to make them...

https://i.imgur.com/KA8CuED.png

_Sicko

Quote from: Norway on March 03, 2015, 01:41:36 AM

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Quote from: Norway on March 03, 2015, 01:34:49 AM

Take a look at some pie charts I made. I had to convert 200+ currency supplies to USD manually to make them...

https://i.imgur.com/KA8CuED.png

I'm presuming your . are meant to be , ?

Correct. In Norway, we write xxx.xxx.xxx,xx
But I made it for an international audience. My mistake Wink

Don't forget about your "honey" badgers. You sick maniacs!

^You like popsickles? Then you need to come down to the cellar. Cause I got a freezer full of popsickles down in the cellar.

Don't forget Brock Pierce. And the WeHo boys club Roll Eyes

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 03, 2015, 02:10:53 AM

Quote

that's what i'm sayin ... if it has more than 1 bedroom , a kitchen , full bath , and is bluewater capable ... it's a yacht in my book ... those extra feet won't help you spear fish any better anyways Tongue

1 stateroom, a galley, full head

You obviously don't know shit about boats.
You have no business owning something when you can't even get the basic fucking nomenclature right.

When the proletariat or whatever rise up you'll be so sorry you said that.

We'll put the wind curtains up and water away with it!

I'd be happy with a timestamp head overflow Embarrassed

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Quote from: empowering on March 03, 2015, 01:56:44 AM

All to easy for this to happen out there... having spent a lot of time in se asia, it is all too common... in my past I have spent a lot of time bombing around islands on bikes with no helmet, on occasion with a drink or two in me, often on gravel covered roads.. one slip....

R.I.P Adam Tepper : (

(*misspent youth)

(** I am not in anyway insinuating Adam Tepper was drinking)

It's always Thailand.

Yeah.... I have seen some god awful shit out there as it goes.

Quote from: ElectricMucus on March 03, 2015, 02:06:53 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 03, 2015, 02:04:31 AM

^You like popsickles? Then you need to come down to the cellar. Cause I got a freezer full of popsickles down in the cellar.

I couldn't believe it at first, but you guys seem to be right. Always assumed Bruce Wagner was the exception.

Disturbing.

huh?^^ what the fuck is that all about?

I think I was offering Chris Hansen a refreshing treat. What? Why?

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Quote from: empowering on March 03, 2015, 01:56:44 AM

All to easy for this to happen out there... having spent a lot of time in se asia, it is all too common... in my past I have spent a lot of time bombing around islands on bikes with no helmet, on occasion with a drink or two in me, often on gravel covered roads.. one slip....

R.I.P Adam Tepper : (

(*misspent youth)

(** I am not in anyway insinuating Adam Tepper was drinking)

It's always Thailand.

Yeah.... I have seen some god awful shit out there as it goes.

Quote from: ElectricMucus on March 03, 2015, 02:06:53 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 03, 2015, 02:04:31 AM

^You like popsickles? Then you need to come down to the cellar. Cause I got a freezer full of popsickles down in the cellar.

I couldn't believe it at first, but you guys seem to be right. Always assumed Bruce Wagner was the exception.

Disturbing.

huh?^^ what the fuck is that all about?

I think I was offering Chris Hansen a refreshing treat. What? Why?

Huh?

I think I am lost.

I just looked up this Chris Hansen (I do not watch television, but have heard of the show) and Bruce Wagner..

Let me get this straight, in case I am confused.... are you guys saying if you spend time in south east asia you are a pedophile?

That cannot be what you are getting at? because that would be almost one of the stupidest things I have ever heard?

OMG! I just realized NLC would have a field day with this^

Good night and good luck. Lips sealed

Quote from: NotLambchop on March 03, 2015, 08:16:09 PM

Quote from: bassclef on March 03, 2015, 08:09:04 PM

...
Bears had their time to frolic in shorting schadenfreude but were unwittingly coiling a spring that would potentially wipe out their profits.

Hahaha! "Coiling spring" Cheesy

Disruptive revolutionary black swan technology tipping point paradigm shift.

Listen up, bulls: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

*Pepperidge Farm remembers

I followed that gif the whole way down Cheesy

Good morning, filthy Bitcoiners Grin

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 04, 2015, 01:03:18 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 04, 2015, 01:00:30 PM

Good morning, filthy Bitcoiners Grin

morning

Good to have you back

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 05, 2015, 12:21:37 AM

can we all just hold off on the buying until after the auction? The U.S. Marshals don't deserve our profits.

Dry powder ready for post auction dump? Mine is Grin

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 05, 2015, 12:49:15 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 05, 2015, 12:40:57 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 05, 2015, 12:21:37 AM

can we all just hold off on the buying until after the auction? The U.S. Marshals don't deserve our profits.

Dry powder ready for post auction dump? Mine is Grin

idk about that...

when the auction date for their last 44K BTC is announced... ( I imagine that will be in May ) UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm easy either way

Quote from: Walsoraj on March 05, 2015, 12:40:00 AM

Second shoulder of two-headed monster is forming...

Upside-down Ripple guy!

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 05, 2015, 07:26:06 AM

This is the last major auction of Silk Road coins. After this, there will only be a few left so even if they end up getting dumped on the market, I think we go up after the auction.

44K is more than a few Roll Eyes

These bear-raids are getting weaker and weaker. I'm afraid for the future
_{of the children}

Yup. Shake out as many lucky geeks and n00bs as possible. Still one more auction to go Grin

Quote from: tarmi on March 06, 2015, 01:01:20 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 05, 2015, 11:38:02 PM

That whole pump happened with no appreciable amount of short covering. it's as if they don't know that there are billions of dollars available to borrow to push the price up and only thousands of coins available to borrow to push the price down.

billions!

this guy is hilarious!

Quote from: alesx.onfire on March 06, 2015, 01:27:57 AM

why everybody are dumping Huh

?
what's the reason??..

just was a simple chinese pump?

dumpitdowntohere.jpg

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Quote from: Ezmoneyezlife on March 06, 2015, 12:33:07 AM

XAU, probably, but they wont abandon such a golden goose until there will be a solid competitor, so i suppose that there will be a real trend reversal after retesting of sub 200$ levels (last rape market operation i.e. shakeoff). People hasnt realized what that means - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/ , it means that btc so far is a project for some douches who wanna be a new financial elite soon (when banking fiat system is going to collapse - matter of month,s i bet). People do need a BTC 2.0 to have a chance to buy not from those fuckers who own millions of btc now, but from a fair distribution. Anyway, we all will be able to earn money when they finish their last btc shakeoff. (matter of 30-45 days) i guess.

apart from your ridiculous username - why not just buy now instead of then from those "fuckers"? Apart from that, not a single person owns millions of Bitcoins anymore - not even close.

Why should i buy now something that is clearly going to be cheaper soon? Im a trader, i do think that btc will rise >1000$ this year, but i gave up on btc waiting for a btc 2.0 without any "wanna be financial elite" douches. World need a fair currency, not another virtual wallstreet/fedreserve bitch. And if you dont see any large btc wallet it doesnt mean that there are no huge btc holders with tons of wallets. Anyone knows where are ~10kk of btc which have never touched exchanges? And after all those wannabe bilderberg secret meetings people should trust into "fair currency for regular joe"? No wonder that btc cannot grow naturally now because for now its just a toy for a "big boyz".

What do you want? Gratis money?

Have you considered paying your trolls to convert. I bet it wouldn't take much. Most of them are too far under water to think

Quote from: aztecminer on March 07, 2015, 03:17:11 AM

Quote from: Bozuatle on March 07, 2015, 03:05:00 AM

I'm looking to pick up a few more coins so im hoping the price drops a bit soon. He's my best attempt to fud the market.

omg everybody...the bitcoin boat is sinking...cut your looses!...lol. (just helping out)

Isis pedos are haxx0ring your anon exchanges as we speak! Your wallets aren't safe and the price is collapsing because Bitcoin!!! (did that help at all?)

^
Doesfluttershyhavetosmackabitch.jpg

LOL. Iz Bitcorn ded ugaise? Grin

Bitcoins auctioned off like common coke boats? If the shoe fits...you lace that mofo up and wear it all over town Grin

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 08, 2015, 05:24:05 AM

wHERE'S MY MOTHERFUCKING sATURDAY NIGHT DISCOUNT??

I'm as disappointed as you are. Shameful Angry

Quote from: ChartBuddy on March 09, 2015, 10:59:12 PM

Quote from: testerman on March 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM

Ya. If we could all just stop shilling shitcoins. That would be great Roll Eyes

if it breaks $300 , then we are now in the way of $400-500

I really hope NLC comes back with a new gif on the way up. He has infinite potential.

Edit: he was much more entertaining than shill coin trolls. Angry

Quote from: empowering on March 10, 2015, 05:13:06 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 10, 2015, 05:07:41 PM

Quote from: empowering on March 10, 2015, 05:03:36 PM

Also...I cannot quite believe I am typing this .................but the lack of the troll brigade is freaking me out a little.... suspicious?

(ps, please do not come back)

They've been so omnipresent that your visual cortex has tuned them out. Ask someone else in the room to check if they're still there and report back.

We at 300 yet?

Quote from: empowering on March 13, 2015, 01:15:30 AM

OT

Fox News Military Analyst: US should start killing Russians in Ukraine

https://youtu.be/hLmBmf-OmXc

Jeeeze... say what you think why don't you.

Thank god this guy is retired.

Christ.

Christ is not technically 'retired' iirc...

You were missed Cry

Dumpity dump dump. Finally Tongue

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 13, 2015, 11:57:31 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 13, 2015, 11:44:16 AM

Dumpity dump dump. Finally Tongue

5-6 dollars worth you classify as 'a dump'.

The mother of all dumps!!!

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 13, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 13, 2015, 11:44:16 AM

Dumpity dump dump. Finally Tongue

5-6 dollars worth you classify as 'a dump'.

The mother of all dumps!!!

Keep hoping desperate bear

Keep hodling delusional bull

Filthy bitcoiners at it again. When will you bunch of degens learn?!

Stop touching children!!

Quote from: 12345mm on March 14, 2015, 08:05:07 AM

been under a rock a couple days ... or a cave ... or bridge ... or something ... all bad i see ... nice 5-6% drop from the "lofty" barely 300's huh ? ... can't say i'm surprised ... soooo days/weeks/months to see that again ? ever ? or back to the death spiral to double digits and oblivion ? i only sold part of my stash there instead of all of it Embarrassed

... guess that was wrong and right ... not sure if i want up down or sideways at this point ... lower buyback , loss on current coins ... higher buyback , gain on current coins ... i'm dancing limbo ... or was it the waltz ? ... moshing ? ... but seriously where's my shoes ?

Quote from: Silverspoon on March 14, 2015, 02:36:38 PM

Gentlemen.
To my dismay, I find myself not chilling on a well-tended tropical moonbeach, moondrink in hand, surrounded by luxury & adoring moonbabes.
What's going on???

"The bitcoiners kept touching me."

And there goes $280...

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Quote from: ensjovis on March 14, 2015, 09:07:44 PM

HUGE dump.

When? Yesterday?

Roll Eyes

just desperate bears Cheesy

Frantically desperate. Grin

Couldn't even hold a $4bn market cap. Tongue

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Quote from: Milestoner on March 14, 2015, 10:39:53 PM

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Bots are just stupid. Who need the price to be displayed here. Welcome in my ignore list.

Yeah. I have to agree with you, Chartbuddy is a bit annoying as well.

Though bitcoin going up is good news Wink

Hoping it can hit $300 next week.

Chartbuddy is ignored by so many people here. i have the price displayed all the time on my phone (bitcoin checker) and my computers (bitcoinwisdom), i really don't need to read it here.

Very true. That troll bot is my only ignore.

^And my seizures are just a coincidence too? Roll Eyes

^Necrobump

Quote from: bank of bits on March 15, 2015, 03:51:56 PM

There's a wall in under 300$, let's see if we can cross it.

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Quote from: michaelGedi on March 15, 2015, 09:56:14 PM

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...EDIT: how do I make small pictures?

Add "width=[size in pixels]" inside the image tag.

Code:

[img width=300]nkmnmnmnm[/img]

I think the price of Bitcoin is starting to get too high again ugaise. It isn't natural

Such boom

Quote from: noobtrader on March 18, 2015, 12:06:49 PM

derp bitcorn price 270 again Angry

We are kings of the world!

What did you monsters do to my bitcorns!?! Angry

It's a fart. I ain't even buyin' moar yet!

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 12:26:00 AM

Quote from: Bitcoiner_cph on March 19, 2015, 12:25:09 AM

I can feel an incoming pump.... 1.. 2.... 3.... WATCH OUT!!!

Delusional booktalk never got us anywhere Angry

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 19, 2015, 12:40:48 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 19, 2015, 12:36:42 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 12:26:00 AM

Quote from: Bitcoiner_cph on March 19, 2015, 12:25:09 AM

I can feel an incoming pump.... 1.. 2.... 3.... WATCH OUT!!!

Delusional booktalk never got us anywhere Angry

Still I see nothing else

Imagine we are the only real people in this thread? The rest are just really clever bull/bear trollbots Shocked

Quote from: 12345mm on March 19, 2015, 12:45:45 AM

fuuuuu uuuuu ck diddily uck ... now i'm only at $1000+ since start of the year instead of $2500+ ... god damned $40 drop in a couple hours ... seriously ? ... you sonsobitches ! ... wtf happened to looking to cross over past 300 and stay above 300 ? ... at least i'm still in the black ... but still ... do the whales realize that every time they shock slam the market for double digit % loss in a matter of hours it further erodes and damages the perception of bitcoin as being a legitimate currency/commodity/thing to invest in whatsoever ?

They don't care

Quote from: 12345mm on March 19, 2015, 12:55:04 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 19, 2015, 12:48:16 AM

Quote from: 12345mm on March 19, 2015, 12:45:45 AM

fuuuuu uuuuu ck diddily uck ... now i'm only at $1000+ since start of the year instead of $2500+ ... god damned $40 drop in a couple hours ... seriously ? ... you sonsobitches ! ... wtf happened to looking to cross over past 300 and stay above 300 ? ... at least i'm still in the black ... but still ... do the whales realize that every time they shock slam the market for double digit % loss in a matter of hours it further erodes and damages the perception of bitcoin as being a legitimate currency/commodity/thing to invest in whatsoever ?

They don't care

seems like somehow they *should* though yknow ? you don't skull fuck the golden goose ... you let it lay golden eggs

LOL. Their parents must have read them the wrong kinds of stories

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 19, 2015, 01:10:48 AM

F*cking pandas

Quote from: L0uis on March 19, 2015, 01:16:54 AM

lol thats it?

that's plenty

Quote from: damiano on March 19, 2015, 01:36:57 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 01:34:53 AM

This is ridiculous.
There are some weak mother fuckers around reacting to bad news & a sell off.
I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow & see 230 USD.
Embarrassing.

Whats the bad news? I haven't been following anything today

hectic work day

Bitcorn got hacked.

I might pick one up at $233...Just putting that out there

Quote from: coins101 on March 19, 2015, 01:37:07 AM

Usually Litecoin sees an immediate bump when BTC dumps. Not today.

The writing is on the wall for LTC. It's failing.

Some of it was no doubt diverted into that dirty XPY pump

Quote from: damiano on March 19, 2015, 02:02:25 AM

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 01:44:22 AM

Quote from: damiano on March 19, 2015, 01:36:57 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 01:34:53 AM

This is ridiculous.
There are some weak mother fuckers around reacting to bad news & a sell off.
I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow & see 230 USD.
Embarrassing.

Whats the bad news? I haven't been following anything today

hectic work day

Well, the latest drug market place BTC scam.
I don't know the exact number but I think 40,000 odd coins scammed & stolen.
Presumably them being dumped caused this avalanche.

EuroTrash says 130k BTC were stolen.

Quote from: EuroTrash on March 18, 2015, 08:15:07 PM

according to "sources", 130k BTC were stolen:

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/18/interview-with-nswgreat-evolution-staff-member/

Anyone have a link to the 130k on the blockchain?

Was that what a 130k coin dump feels like??

Quote from: damiano on March 19, 2015, 02:11:51 AM

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Quote from: damiano on March 19, 2015, 01:36:57 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 19, 2015, 01:34:53 AM

This is ridiculous.
There are some weak mother fuckers around reacting to bad news & a sell off.
I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow & see 230 USD.
Embarrassing.

Whats the bad news? I haven't been following anything today

hectic work day

Well, the latest drug market place BTC scam.
I don't know the exact number but I think 40,000 odd coins scammed & stolen.
Presumably them being dumped caused this avalanche.

EuroTrash says 130k BTC were stolen.

Quote from: EuroTrash on March 18, 2015, 08:15:07 PM

according to "sources", 130k BTC were stolen:

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/18/interview-with-nswgreat-evolution-staff-member/

Anyone have a link to the 130k on the blockchain?

Was that what a 130k coin dump feels like??

lol no

130k would take us to double digits combined with the stop losses etc.. in any case dumping more than 10k at once is pointless since you don't let the market recover

Makes sense

Quote from: TankHankerous on March 19, 2015, 07:26:14 AM

Quote from: bassclef on March 19, 2015, 07:22:10 AM

We hit a nice double bottom, consolidated a bit, then a couple big longs started closing all at once and price just shot up... suddenly we are in the 260s and I fly to the computer to close my short... the orderbooks are so thin on the ask side... I think we all thought it was going to go lower.

-1 bottle of wine but +30 to my stash, put my buy orders a little below market but may have to panic buy in a few hours. Looks as if demand still wants to push up.

I don't think there's a rolls eye emoji that can capture my feelings right now.

My advice is to build a Lego house and try to live in it!

Solid advice Cheesy

As low as possible for as long as possible actually works for me. I ain't even mad

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Quote from: michaelGedi on March 19, 2015, 11:26:41 PM

so let me get this straight, 700k went long on that spike to 269.5 on finex, and at about the same time 450k went short. I guess one could well have been in response to another. It looks like the long was a margin buy, did anyone see it?

There was a 5k wall placed at 250, minutes later it broke up into staggered walls, seconds later it looked like all 5k plowed into the asks.

you are not telling it right.

someone borrowed another 1.3 mil, flashed it with a massive buy wall on 250, a lot of lemmings and whale kamikaze bought a lot of short positions.

that's it.

so it wasn't the spike to 269.5? or if it was, maybe a mis-click? Cheesy

the spike were the noobs buying and going all in on leverage.

Noobs dont buy 7k coins. Stopped the selloff eh? One more of them and we would have instaspiked to 300.

Yes, seems like this baby is inclining to go up, rather than down....... and I suppose that several of us are waiting to find out who is going to be correct (in the poll) regarding Monday's price? Like today for example the price had about a $15 dollar fluctuation point.

I supposed Monday is a long day and maybe we could get similar levels of fluctuation in price, and the price of the poll refers to the close of business on monday? which is what time? 5pm eastern? or some other time and time zone?

Dude. Just hit it with a toaster

Quote from: mortified on March 20, 2015, 02:57:01 AM

Quote from: coinableS on March 20, 2015, 02:38:06 AM

This is what happens when you try to hold down a bull.

Guy in the hat be like "I'm goin' over there to short altcoins."

Mah sides:D

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 20, 2015, 11:29:31 PM

Contrary to the weightiness of the poll towards below $270, I'm still thinking in the $290s range by close of business monday (Eastern time), but what da fuck do I know? Tongue

Clearly

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 20, 2015, 11:33:10 PM

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 20, 2015, 11:29:31 PM

Contrary to the weightiness of the poll towards below $270, I'm still thinking in the $290s range by close of business monday (Eastern time), but what da fuck do I know? Tongue

Clearly

Finally, someone agrees with me. GREAT!!!!!! I hope you are NOT a bot, BMB?

Would a bot do this:

Quote from: empowering on March 21, 2015, 12:00:15 AM

What does the man on the moon do when his beard gets too long?

Eclipse it.

Google search:moon beard

Quote from: empowering on March 21, 2015, 12:03:21 AM

http://www.badum-tish.com/

The pause feature seems hardly necessary Cheesy

Quote from: chriswen on March 21, 2015, 01:08:56 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zrdxz/withdrawals_halted_as_stolen_evolution_coins_make/

Whoa. I almost went daytarding out of pure boredom. Did I dodge a bullet here? I thought BTC-e was the wild west. They get scurred of dirty coins?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 21, 2015, 07:45:54 AM

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 21, 2015, 07:10:05 AM

Quote from: 12345mm on March 21, 2015, 06:06:48 AM

hmmmm ... yes ... 10 minute blocks of time going by on finex , apparently the preferred exchange nowadays , without a single buy or sell occurring ... sorry folks that's not what a healthy "global currency market" looks like ... hell it's not what any healthy traded finance market looks like ... meanwhile the novelty idea of "bitcoin is the future of money" has worn off for most people as they come to realize it's actually nothing more than a poorly-branded experimental decentralized floating value ledger system backed up by a little computer processing power , which was severely abused by mtgox in a massive ponzi scheme from the very beginning of bitcoin up until other exchanges existed , roughly 6 out of the total of 7 years of bitcoin's existence being completely fraudulently manipulated in terms of price ... leaves us with a "leftover" price resultant from their fraudulent actions , a pseudo-merchant acceptance process whereby 99% of merchants accept that you can sell your bitcoins at exchange value and pay them in real fiat for their goods via payment processors , and a massive slapped together mining infrastructure built to chase the false price but now faced with the reality of not being able to pay their power bills without $1000 bitcoin ... fucked would be a generous assessment ...

What he said Undecided

It's a very gripping anecdote, very good decision for dramatic purposes for the writer to choose to exaggerate beyond recognition or outright make up every single supporting detail, makes for a much more dramatic story than what happened in real life.

fight fire with fire ... fight lies with lies ... if need be ... difference being my white lies / slight exaggerations are in the interest of other people / pursuit of truth and the lies of blatant bitcoin shills are for only their profit / benefit ... Wink

With all due respect, go hug a rainbow!

Hehe. I feel better now Cheesy

Quote from: 12345mm on March 21, 2015, 07:50:28 AM

no offense taken whatsoever ...

oooo my god look it's a double rainbow ! ! ! ! !

Full on double rainbow all across the sky. So vivid... SO BRIGHT! What does it mean?

Edit: It's starting to look like a triple rainbow now ! ! ! ! !

Quote from: ChartBuddy on March 21, 2015, 07:59:00 AM

Quote from: BlackSpidy on March 21, 2015, 12:03:33 PM

It needs to be about 20% cooler tho

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Quote from: BlackSpidy on March 21, 2015, 09:41:10 AM

I'm still waiting for proof on your claims about the bitcoin clone that would double the bitcoins in existence. So far, only claims with no evidence to stand on.

I explained it three times, and gave you an concrete example of that thing having happened already (the OP_MUL fork). Sorry, it is you who owe me proof that you can read.

You made claims 3 times. Got any evidence of bitcoin clones resulting in more bitcoins being on the market? I'm still waiting for proof that (and I quote)

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 02, 2015, 03:34:17 PM

any kid can duplicate the amount of bitcoins in existence by creating a hard fork of the blockchain and starting to mine it on his laptotp.

Young brave defiant in the face of big chief sits and trolls. I'm so proud right now

Quote from: Tzupy on March 21, 2015, 12:27:34 PM

Quote from: 8up on March 21, 2015, 10:27:00 AM

Bulls and bears balance each other very well atm.

Guess the next two month will become boring to an almost unbearable level. Wink

No, either going up to ~290$ and then slowly descending, accelerating and eventually crashing, or just crash in 4 - 5 days.

5 days until crash? Shocked

We need a countdown clock pronto!

Edit: somebody reconfigure chartbuddy to do something useful

Quote from: calme on March 21, 2015, 01:12:43 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 21, 2015, 01:05:16 PM

Edit: somebody reconfigure chartbuddy to do something useful

Well, I suppose Chartbuddy could have a voting system concerning which trolls should have their accounts deleted, and only users with established accounts would have their votes count. If they really want to reconfigure it, they could integrate drones with big black dildos attached to them.

Dude. I was just going to suggest drones Shocked

Quote from: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 21, 2015, 03:57:50 PM

Quote from: abercrombie on March 21, 2015, 03:25:53 PM

Seals with Clubs back in operation. More demand for BTC by gamblers.

http://btcfeed.net/reviews/swc-poker-back-and-better-than-ever/

Evo gone. Less demand by druggies Sad

It's the circle of life...

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 21, 2015, 06:48:04 PM

Quote from: empowering on March 21, 2015, 04:15:51 PM

Short term I think we are being led by the nose, I do not trust the order books or charts, feels like something is afoot, maybe a mini spike followed by a mini dump... all depends on how 250 holds up.

If everyone is just waiting for a sign of which direction we're heading this could get ugly quick.

I've resigned myself to it getting ugly quick. It's the only way to fly Undecided

Mommy? Is this the "Gentlemen" you've been talking about?

Sideways... to the moon!!

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 15, 2014, 05:09:46 PM

Don't mind me. Just walking down memory lane over here:'(

Quote from: criptix on March 22, 2015, 12:02:06 AM

so boring people start to pump their altcoins here again Lips sealed

btw. it's really funny to read german words in english sentences Grin

Durchfall tickles me Grin

PS. Is bitcoin ded uguise?? Maybe we can rebrand as a drone enthusiast forum. The kids will eat it up.

Just out for a Sunday morning troll are we? Grin

Quote from: inca on March 22, 2015, 10:25:38 AM

I think what this price stability shows is that none of the vocal bears on here have enough coins to even push us down a single dollar.

I think they call it 'reloading'

Quote from: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 22, 2015, 02:20:41 PM

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Quote from: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 22, 2015, 01:09:43 PM

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point. Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient. It's a choice.

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

Don't be a silly boil. Eternal life is as attractive as eternal reruns of "Who's the Boss?"

Who let the Extropians back in the building?

Quote from: empowering on March 22, 2015, 04:07:48 PM

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Quote from: empowering on March 22, 2015, 03:52:17 PM

I would not be surprised at all in the slightest, if the first human that will live to be 500 plus years old, is already alive today.
...

lambystuff

fascinating....

Kind of a ham-handed seque to be sure Grin

Oh hai!

Back from a 3-day ban for 'insubstantial posts'. What did I miss? Lots of pedobears and filthy bitcoiner posters I imagine...

And Bitcoin is dying again. So I missed nothing.

Quote from: IDKwhatisgoinon on March 25, 2015, 10:46:49 PM

Not even $300?

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 02, 2015, 11:25:33 PM

Substantial

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Quote from: IDKwhatisgoinon on March 25, 2015, 10:46:49 PM

Not even $300?

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 02, 2015, 11:25:33 PM

You know you've made it here when the sock puppets start targeting you individually.

You paid for the privilege, bro. Enjoy it

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 25, 2015, 11:12:56 PM

Just open 3-4 bank accounts and split your profits amongst those banks.
Depends how much money you're making I suppose if you get investigated.
If you're earning tens of thousands (or more) of dollars through BTC and it's all going into one account you're likely to get flagged up.
Spread the risk amongst different banks.

I thought Bitcoin was for loosing money. Did I skip a chapter Huh

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 26, 2015, 10:49:58 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

We can still make a sha256 based shitcoin and mine the hell out of that.

It won't be the same Undecided

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:52:42 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 26, 2015, 10:49:58 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

We can still make a sha256 based shitcoin and mine the hell out of that.

It won't be the same Undecided

I guess it's not the same challenge for you to troll adolescent shitcoin evangelists.

I'm actually one of the good guys I promise. I just sound like a troll Wink

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Quote from: rolling on March 26, 2015, 10:56:36 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

It will take until their building leases and data center leases expire. Even if they're losing money, it might still be better than the penalties of breaking a lease. Only people mining from home can afford to shut things off.

Untrue. One can always learn from Bitcoin's best and brightest (Basic Mining, Active Mining, Asick Miner, etc., etc.) and run away

If everybody runs away can we all just use these: http://www.coindesk.com/first-plug-in-node-aims-to-boost-bitcoins-network-security/

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

We can still make a sha256 based shitcoin and mine the hell out of that.

It won't be the same Undecided

I guess it's not the same challenge for you to troll adolescent shitcoin evangelists.

I'm actually one of the good guys I promise. I just sound like a troll Wink

That reminds me of the words of the late Sam Kinison: I don't want to come across as an asshole, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

Hmmm. Maybe I am a troll. I certainly have a number of defining troll qualities. The more money I lose the funnier it gets. I can't help it

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

We can still make a sha256 based shitcoin and mine the hell out of that.

It won't be the same Undecided

I guess it's not the same challenge for you to troll adolescent shitcoin evangelists.

I'm actually one of the good guys I promise. I just sound like a troll Wink

That reminds me of the words of the late Sam Kinison: I don't want to come across as an asshole, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

Hmmm. Maybe I am a troll. I certainly have a number of defining troll qualities. The more money I lose the funnier it gets. I can't help it

That last one was just an apropos. It's the internet. You could be Kris F@cking Kringle for all I know.

I read somewhere that if you were to somehow watch Black Swan backwards Natalie Portman's character would be cured of lunacy by doing it with Mila Kunis...

Quote from: hdbuck on March 26, 2015, 11:38:36 PM

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on March 26, 2015, 11:35:23 PM

I want $140 coins already. When will the longs get margin called? 220-210? Huh

Going below 236 can lead to:

Support Level 1 – 219.8
Support Level 2 – 199.7

I think we're just waiting around for the Evolution coins to dump?

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 26, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

How cheap do these things have to get before all the miners find new jobs? This is taking forever Roll Eyes

We can still make a sha256 based shitcoin and mine the hell out of that.

It won't be the same Undecided

I guess it's not the same challenge for you to troll adolescent shitcoin evangelists.

I'm actually one of the good guys I promise. I just sound like a troll Wink

That reminds me of the words of the late Sam Kinison: I don't want to come across as an asshole, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

Hmmm. Maybe I am a troll. I certainly have a number of defining troll qualities. The more money I lose the funnier it gets. I can't help it

That last one was just an apropos. It's the internet. You could be Kris F@cking Kringle for all I know.

I read somewhere that if you were to somehow watch Black Swan backwards Natalie Portman's character would be cured of lunacy by doing it with Mila Kunis...

Cool, then I'll get to punch Ashton Kutcher as well.

Punk him back to that 70's Show. So he can think about what he's done!

Quote from: empowering on March 27, 2015, 12:50:51 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think I'll just sit here quietly.

^She's just sleeping. Right?

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Quote from: magicmexican on March 27, 2015, 10:58:21 AM

Unfortunately its almost looks exactly like the last fake bottom @275 into the fail attempto to break 450. The further decline is most likely scenario at this point.

Ouch, that is unfortunate! I opened a long position last night at 245 Undecided

I thought it looked like a nice firm bottom, not a saggy, droopy, fake one. Cry

Where's all the real bottoms at

You know where they are. Just open that browser you hid in some fake system folder.

You know about that? Shocked

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Quote from: magicmexican on March 27, 2015, 10:58:21 AM

Unfortunately its almost looks exactly like the last fake bottom @275 into the fail attempto to break 450. The further decline is most likely scenario at this point.

Ouch, that is unfortunate! I opened a long position last night at 245 Undecided

I thought it looked like a nice firm bottom, not a saggy, droopy, fake one. Cry

Where's all the real bottoms at

You know where they are. Just open that browser you hid in some fake system folder.

You know about that? Shocked

No I don't. You are an uniquely brilliant individual.

I am?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on March 27, 2015, 11:56:21 PM

good spot to place a long with a stop loss at 245?

maybe.

^Good question.

good answer.

Ay liek da breadz An stuffz

Quote from: michaelGedi on March 28, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

this thread used to be about walls, now it's about memes and trolls Wink

still enjoy the odd visit though Cool

If this thread is the waiting room of Bitcointalk, we're reading the magazines Tongue

Quote from: Omikifuse on March 28, 2015, 02:02:24 AM

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Quote from: michaelGedi on March 28, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

this thread used to be about walls, now it's about memes and trolls Wink

still enjoy the odd visit though Cool

If this thread is the waiting room of Bitcointalk, we're reading the magazines Tongue

not reading, just looking at the pictures, considering all the memes from last pages

Quote from: Dump3er on March 29, 2015, 01:04:23 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 29, 2015, 12:54:22 PM

@Dump3r

We were told we had to visit $235 first, but you guys can't seem to get a move on.

Will your account be deleted or vanished, when we go down to lower mayor lows?

'Cause you know I will bump your statements then...

I'm sorry. I thought I heard my name...

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Quote from: fonzie on September 28, 2014, 04:31:03 PM

Hehe. I bought in a $550. Whatever. Go bitcoin lol

That bitterness. Too bad you're account is probably bought since you totally write in a different way. Paid troll spotted again.

I bought dozens of old hero and other accounts with money from JPMorgan. BlindMayorBitcorn is one of them btw. Shocked

We will FUD and crash BTC/USD down to 10$. We are everywhere. We are LEGION!

LOL. Hehe. Um. NO. I post a derpy meme and you go all conspiracy theory on me. People please!

I AM NOT A TROLL!

And I did buy in at 550 so ya. Expect moar derpy memes. Sorry U guise!!!1

@empowering

Haha. Doom

@Ivanhoe

That post was 4000 pages ago! Have you analysed my post history. Have I really become bitter?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 29, 2015, 05:30:33 PM

Quote from: Blazin604 on March 29, 2015, 05:16:12 PM

Good morning my friends. Hope you're all well. This is an interesting read. Crypto is truly changing the game.

Shadow Motherboard Article:

WTH Blazin!?! Stop pushing your "spices"!

Is this an example of a decentralized autonomous organization then? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that idea tbh

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 29, 2015, 05:58:22 PM

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Quote from: Blazin604 on March 29, 2015, 05:16:12 PM

Good morning my friends. Hope you're all well. This is an interesting read. Crypto is truly changing the game.

Shadow Motherboard Article:

WTH Blazin!?! Stop pushing your "spices"!

Is this an example of a decentralized autonomous organization then? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that idea tbh

Until Mr.BlazinEscrow is hauled out of his mums basement and 150 000 "Motherboard"-Bitcoins are auctioned off by the feds.

It needs escrow. So it needs trusted on-ramping?

Quote from: criptix on March 29, 2015, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on March 29, 2015, 09:07:43 PM

Quote from: criptix on March 29, 2015, 09:06:06 PM

well where do you think all the rich people get their knowledge from? Usually books

If you've got serious money you purchase the person with the relevant expertise and then you eat them. It's a primitive form of Matrix uploads. Give it a try sometime. It worked for me. I'm now a world class lacrosse player.

But like you said: for that to work you already need money beforehand :/
but yeah if you have the money and can get "the" expert then you can definietly be happy

You could just hit them with a hammer and eat until they wake up.

This is the face of shock and awe Undecided

Quote from: inca on March 29, 2015, 09:42:56 PM

Quote from: Ask Ken About Love on March 29, 2015, 08:47:21 PM

Lots of talk on here. None of you seem able to actually move the price downwards.

The price is determined in China. This is an English language echo chamber. Do the math

This isn't very doom yet tbh

Quote from: Derek492 on March 30, 2015, 01:44:23 AM

Down du be do down down. Do be do be down.

Technically that is a half-truth

Quote from: rolling on March 30, 2015, 01:48:22 AM

Can everyone that has bitcoins and doesn't believe in it, just sell right NOW so we can get this downtrend over with? What a waste of 2 1/2 months!

Are you sure some whales haven't just been methodically inching us down to avoid panic? And that we may have many more months of same ahead?

Quote from: rolling on March 30, 2015, 01:53:31 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 30, 2015, 01:52:07 AM

Quote from: rolling on March 30, 2015, 01:48:22 AM

Can everyone that has bitcoins and doesn't believe in it, just sell right NOW so we can get this downtrend over with? What a waste of 2 1/2 months!

Are you sure some whales haven't just been methodically inching us down to avoid panic? And that we may have many more months of same ahead?

No, I'm quite sure that's the case but can they hurry the f up?

Heh. Ya

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on March 30, 2015, 02:08:35 AM

Whoops, someone didn't check the ask book on okcoin.

There might not be a word for doom in Chinese

@Empowering

No DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

I love how Bitcoin is exactly like Beanie Babies in every respect.

No wait...

Quote from: empowering on March 30, 2015, 10:56:41 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 30, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

@Empowering

No DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

No

I am hungry and ratty.

Not shnappy.

Angry

That's odd. Everybody seemed so convinced. Isn't that odd?

/S

Quote from: empowering on March 30, 2015, 11:08:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 30, 2015, 11:02:43 PM

Quote from: empowering on March 30, 2015, 10:56:41 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on March 30, 2015, 10:46:57 PM

@Empowering

No DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

No

I am hungry and ratty.

Not shnappy.

Angry

That's odd. Everybody seemed so convinced. Isn't that odd?

/S

I still have hope that the staff will keep their promise.

Otherwise bad reviews on tripadvisor

Imma write a pithy observation on Yelp

The absence of doom, day after day; it's almost as if there will be no doom. But I was promised doom in this very thread!

Quote from: glorg44 on March 31, 2015, 11:09:58 PM

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Quote from: mah87 on March 31, 2015, 09:41:46 PM

anyone heard about this new currency called XRP ?

nope, never had, whats this?

Just another centralized BS pump&dump scamcoin.

Did we need another one? Undecided

NLC's posts being deleted from Wall Observer. Bullish?

I heard there was some doom to be found here. Anybody?

Quote from: empowering on April 01, 2015, 10:42:12 PM

Quote from: tarmi on April 01, 2015, 10:30:44 PM

nice & slowly.

That does not sound like shnappy to me.

More stabby I'd say Angry

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Quote from: empowering on April 01, 2015, 09:31:58 PM

how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?

Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.

I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.

Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?

Hopefully the wait is over! Cheesy

Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.

It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way. Wink

I wouldn't mind it being a more sustainable trend than a bubble.

I think we will have a few more bubbles until we get to that point. But what do I know? I admit that I have been repeatedly surprised by BTC since when I first bought in 2013.

Depends on rate of adoption and who adopts. Wall Street can only get us so far. To quote someone I don't remember who: we can't all make a living cutting each others hair.

This waiting for Wall Street to arrive reminds me of the cargo cult of Vanuatu. I don't think bounty will come from above

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 02, 2015, 10:27:19 PM

This thread is pure genious. It's like troll-flypaper. It's meta-trolling.

It's true. I don't know who's trolling who anymore Cheesy

Quote from: tarmi on April 02, 2015, 10:49:56 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on April 02, 2015, 10:41:10 PM

trolololo

trololololololo

Quote from: Ask Ken About Love on April 02, 2015, 11:19:23 PM

Quote from: inca on April 02, 2015, 11:09:20 PM

...But bitcoin is the undoubted superior to all centralised forms of fiat currency.

Yeah, but not decentralized fiat currencies.
Checkmate!

Flawless Victory

Quote from: empowering on April 02, 2015, 11:47:46 PM

wtf?

Sir, I cannot help but feel that the day's events were decidedly undoomlike in nature.

Has anyone filed a report of any kind with authorities or whatnot? Because seriously now. This is too much Angry

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on April 02, 2015, 11:56:59 PM

Right, all out at 252 & Im done for the night. 242 by 8am GMT? Buy it all back. Looking for 2.1% nett. Grin

Keep manning those pumps.

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Quote from: tarmi on April 03, 2015, 12:41:20 AM

Quote from: damiano on April 03, 2015, 12:34:21 AM

Bulls seem very hesitant in taking this above 255, why is that?

good question.

dont be fooled by bids. bulls just flashing their hands and it does not look so impressive from here.

I'll be impressed if we make 300 by next spring.

Quote from: Tony Abbot on April 03, 2015, 01:00:24 AM

Can one of you gentlemans assist me by posting a current list of those that aren't gentleman?
I've discovered a region on my trackpad that is noticeably worn. It's position coincides precisely with my pointer's position on the screen when I rush to ignore someone. It's most disconcerting. Angry

The trolls are getting frantic, there's no doubt about it.
It makes me harder than a cat's head, knowing that I hold a small amount of the very thing that can turn human beings into such desperate and driven trolls.

My precious BTC havess much powerserz.

Keep feeding my erection you scared little people. It's going up and you know it.

That's unseemly Roll Eyes

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on April 03, 2015, 01:52:47 AM

Quote from: damiano on April 03, 2015, 01:50:17 AM

This trolling has gone to a new level

i think you mean sabotage.

He's just expressing himself, man. You have to admit he really brightens the place up; when you find yourself alone with ChartBuddy too long...

Start the seizure party!

I watched a documentary last night that had this full-blooded giraffe neck fight. It was vicious...

Good morning, bitcoiners!

Quote from: empowering on April 03, 2015, 03:08:00 PM

Meh

If I don't see some genuine doom this weekend I'm taking my business elsewhere. Angry

I'm starting to get that sinking feeling again. Gravity might not be on our side here Gentlemen

This kind of talk would be plenty more effective with some actual doom taking place.

*hint!

Quote from: bassclef on April 03, 2015, 09:47:11 PM

Price goes up $20 and suddenly double spends are happening and a mining cartel takeover is imminent.

Get a life guys, or at least take it to the technical development thread where you can share your fears in a thread that's not a troll-fest. Oh wait, there's no one to feed your narcissism there. It only counts as therapy if you're paying $200 an hour you know.

Trolls get booted from Technical Discussion threads. Trust me I know Lips sealed

Quote from: bassclef on April 03, 2015, 10:03:42 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on April 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM

Quote from: bassclef on April 03, 2015, 09:47:11 PM

Price goes up $20 and suddenly double spends are happening and a mining cartel takeover is imminent.

Get a life guys, or at least take it to the technical development thread where you can share your fears in a thread that's not a troll-fest. Oh wait, there's no one to feed your narcissism there. It only counts as therapy if you're paying $200 an hour you know.

People in this forum are simply discussing some of the bitcoin narratives regardless of price movements and suddenly some dude comes and calls everything "FUD" by "trolls" and takes the discussion as a personal attack.

It's just that we've been over it. Again and again and again. To the point that it seems planned and manipulative, even if its not intended in that way.

9 out of 10 lurkers would agree with this.

Quote from: spooderman on April 03, 2015, 10:46:11 PM

Quote from: sporkTroll on April 03, 2015, 09:07:17 PM

Why do Bitcoiners start double spacing their posts?

I thought the whole point of bitcoin was that you couldn't double space?

You're thinking double park.

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on April 04, 2015, 01:00:32 AM

Quote from: empowering on April 04, 2015, 12:49:10 AM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on April 03, 2015, 08:32:41 PM

Doom

Shoop all the dooms

Doomnation

Quote from: YourMother on April 04, 2015, 12:44:56 AM

Doom.jpg

Doom

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 03, 2015, 12:12:11 PM

I watched a documentary last night that had this full-blooded giraffe neck fight. It was vicious...

Good morning, bitcoiners!

Crazy no?

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on April 11, 2015, 03:10:35 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 11, 2015, 02:56:04 AM

How dare you bully my sock. You monster.

Quote from: BlackSpidy on April 11, 2015, 04:00:13 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 11, 2015, 03:54:28 AM

Let me remind everybody why we are all here:

... For no reason? I'm here because I like reading about bitecoin on the internets.

You didn't let me finish Angry

Quote from: Not a cop on April 11, 2015, 06:28:55 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 11, 2015, 06:21:12 PM

Yeez Louise!

I did a quick search and it turns out that every lovable american comedian is a canadian!
...

Yep. Nades who make it & can get a work visa move to US. Just like hayseeds who make it in showbiz leave their farms & move to Big City.
That's why Canada is so insipid - all the talented people pick up & move to the States. Talent drain Undecided

We keep some DECENT talent home...

If I may: I've been here for nearly a year, and there are only a dozen or so posters really worth their salt. A few are perma-bulls like cbeast and empowering and most recently fatman; but I have to admit I mostly come for the NLC now. He's funny and endlessly creative. I like to think if we were going up and not down, he would keep us humble (and kind of giggly).

Also, this:

You mean this guy ain't legit?

Quote from: kingcrimson on January 13, 2015, 10:06:46 PM

It is always the exact same story with EV, blame everyone but himself. I cringe every time he presents himself as a figurehead for bitcoin considering his trademark lack of character and selfishness.

Even in his little 'sorry you're screwed' message, he slips in that he accepted BTC and is sorry he can't payback the USD. BTC should payback bitcoin, you psychopath.

^One day I'd like to hear your story, my pariah friend. You have tales to tell I bet

Quote from: shmadz on April 12, 2015, 02:31:43 PM

Does anyone else find it ironic that people refer to a distributed transparent ledger as a pyramid scheme while making no mention at all of the current debt-based, fractional reserve lending system?

You mean people? Or NLC?

Count me not surprised.

(No offence Wink

)

Quote from: Gentle Ben on April 12, 2015, 03:52:54 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 12, 2015, 03:24:33 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on April 12, 2015, 03:11:22 PM

Ah the same old tired logical fallacies from the troll camp. Only weaker and with less substance each time around.

Roll Eyes

It's true. I think the most effective troll would capitalize on our fear of ever diminishing purchasing power. The 'it's dying' thing is catchy Angry

There's that too, but, unlike bitcoin evangelists, who resort to exploiting nebulous fears and ungrounded paranoia of the ignorant, Bitcoin's detractors have a veritable plethora of valid arguments re. its fail.

How do you choose what arguments to use on what days? You must have some kind of informal calculus as to which ones push the most buttons, and at what times?

Quote from: paul2000 on April 12, 2015, 04:03:45 PM

Sorry newbies, I'm now ignoring all new accounts without reading.

Don't be afraid. He's harmless really. Unless he also trolls in Mandarin.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2015, 09:15:43 PM

Quote from: Shatoshi on April 12, 2015, 09:01:49 PM

Quote from: Norway on April 12, 2015, 08:43:58 PM

Any ideas why my "Activity" is stuck at 98?

I have the same "problem"

It goes up by 14 every 2 weeks.

Only goes up a max of 14 in that time no matter how many posts you make.

What if you were banned for a week? Do those days count?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 12, 2015, 09:17:40 PM

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2015, 09:15:43 PM

Quote from: Shatoshi on April 12, 2015, 09:01:49 PM

Quote from: Norway on April 12, 2015, 08:43:58 PM

Any ideas why my "Activity" is stuck at 98?

I have the same "problem"

It goes up by 14 every 2 weeks.

Only goes up a max of 14 in that time no matter how many posts you make.

What if you were banned for a week? Do those days count?

You get double points

Winning!

Question: how will we know DOOOM when it gets here? Is it here yet? Is it in arrivals?

Quote from: WeltMaster on April 13, 2015, 11:28:33 PM

Quote from: WeltMaster on April 13, 2015, 11:23:52 PM

So we bounced off the 61.8 fib line

Still shaky to open a long but if that holds, this whole thing could just be an abc elliot wave which could take us much higher?

Does anyone else here like using the golden ratio in bitcoin, or am I just being delusional before the drop to double digits?

I'm busy trying to figure if dollar cost averaging is the same as ~~losing more money~~kicking myself in the face...

Quote from: And Toto too? on April 14, 2015, 12:05:36 AM

Quote from: macsga on April 14, 2015, 12:00:06 AM

IF anyone else is tired to see NLC's sockpuppets posts, please be informed that The List is now updated with the latest additions:

And Toto 2?

And Toto too?!

U guys are playing tag while Bitcoin is dooming!?

Quote from: EpStROM on April 14, 2015, 12:17:46 AM

Quote from: And Toto too? on April 14, 2015, 12:05:36 AM

Quote from: macsga on April 14, 2015, 12:00:06 AM

IF anyone else is tired to see NLC's sockpuppets posts, please be informed that The List is now updated with the latest additions:

And Toto 2?

And Toto too?!

I'm waiting for Toto too two Grin

But shouldn't we be doing something in a panic?

^Freak ur calm!!!!

Quote from: macsga on April 14, 2015, 01:08:10 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 14, 2015, 01:03:17 AM

Stop harrassing me! Angry

Just did. Bye Bye!

Macsga NOOOOOOoooooooo!!! Cry

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 14, 2015, 12:49:11 AM

I'm trying to understand ~~his~~ my ways!

There, FTFY! Wink

I think our writing style is different. I don't really have writing style.

This is the second time I've been accused of being his sock. I'm sure a mod could easily set that straight. But it shouldn't be necessary, even to the casual observer.

Your methods are different but the outcome tends to be the same. Either you stop quoting him and quit trolling or you're in the list again. This place looks really great without all the sockpuppets making a trollfest. Being one or "looking like" one makes no difference to me (and most possible to all the others that use the list).

You've been warned.

If you put BlindMayorBitcorn on THE LIST, put me on there too.

He seems like a bloke who's long term bullish on bitcoin, but just likes to temper the sting of near constant declines with some hilarity.

You understand me. Thank you brother!

Fact is I just bought one more Embarrassed

Help me?

Quote from: solitude on April 14, 2015, 01:31:39 AM

sell your coins you fucking retards

i'll be the guy dying of laughter when you're fighting over yourselves to panic buy when it starts approaching four digits again.

now go fuck your mother.

If I had a list of members who bounced from thread to thread saying weird offensive shit... You'd be on it, you hate filled toad

Quote from: solitude on April 14, 2015, 12:28:51 AM

Hey tokeweed you fucking degenerate faggot.

Why does theymos with all that semen pumped up his butt delete my righteous pictures of mein fuhrer while letting you spread your aids everywhere?

It's almost like the jews have won.

^Looks fake to me Roll Eyes

Quote from: tarmi on April 14, 2015, 05:29:21 PM

Quote from: Gyrsur on April 14, 2015, 05:25:46 PM

...

Good point, Tarmi!

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Quote from: screengrid on April 14, 2015, 05:21:35 PM

So, hypothetically, if just like half the people in the world wanted just half a bitcoin, they couldn't have it? How much would my .273 BTC would be worth then?

hypothetically if half the people in the world wanted just half a bitcoin, I would want all the bitcoins.

Then why are they so stupid? If everyone just bought more bitcoins, price could only go up and then we wood all be rich. It's so simple why can't they even understand its so simple and just start buying! How stupid they are? Brainwashed by government schools and socialist television propoganda because now that healthcare is free they dont even want to work. And fiat is a pyramid scheme anyway, did they think of that? Did you know that fiat today is printed out of thin air, and all they talk about on tv is hilary duff emma stone and andrew garfield!
Is It Over?!?

People dont say hello anymore kids dont know the meaning of value. Last night a gay man was doing something behind the school. And were just supposed to pretend that nothing is wrong?

Ah, there's nought queer as folk.

Wait. I recognize this troll-type. He's on our side, but then again he's a lunatic

And upon inspection, it's NLC. I see... Cool

Quote from: Wings1987 on April 14, 2015, 06:23:30 PM

Hate to interrupt all the bottom talk but looks like a lot of the resistance is gone. Good possibility of an advance. Just need a spark!

Emma Watson is right U guys!

Quote from: macsga on April 14, 2015, 09:53:46 PM

Imma horse's ass!

Dude. Don't be so hard on yourself.

Quote from: inca on April 14, 2015, 11:02:00 PM

Buy !

Man! I've been buying all year. I'm broke and I'm tired.

Good luck

Quote from: shmadz on April 15, 2015, 01:32:54 AM

It's over? Already? That's it?

If we don't even break below 200 I will be greatly disappointed.

Angry

Empowering isn't here. Doom really wouldn't be the same without him.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 15, 2015, 08:46:53 PM

Quote from: Ivanhoe on April 15, 2015, 08:20:41 PM

Nice work Adam! Trolling only allowed for "full members" at least. Wink

Am I really so annoying? Feri22 accused me of trolling too.

NO! So you made someone's list, too? These are truly paranoid times, Gentlemen.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 15, 2015, 09:37:20 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 15, 2015, 09:29:45 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on April 15, 2015, 08:46:53 PM

Quote from: Ivanhoe on April 15, 2015, 08:20:41 PM

Nice work Adam! Trolling only allowed for "full members" at least. Wink

Am I really so annoying? Feri22 accused me of trolling too.

NO! So you made someone's list, too? These are truly paranoid times, Gentlemen.

I might have gotten a little colourful as the price dropped lower and lower, but I didn't think it was this they meant with Bitcoin needing more liquidity. It feels like I have financial diarrhea.

Edit: thx phoenix1!

Self-deprecating humour is verboten around these parts. Too many old members with too much money at stake I imagine. They get spooked easily

Quote from: inca on April 15, 2015, 09:47:24 PM

You know the resident troll is failing when the only way to elicit any reaction whatsoever is to create a new account for virtually every troll post. All regular alt accounts ignored by virtually all forum users whether bear or bull.

Reintroducing newbie jail would engineer the desired effect of silencing him permanently I suspect.

I don't like that idea. Newbies can't defend themselves like we can.

Imagine the welcoming committee he would make

^Trolls don't like me, non-trolls don't like me. I'm like a flying monkey just pissing everyone off. Cry

Quote from: phoenix1 on April 15, 2015, 09:56:16 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 15, 2015, 09:49:44 PM

Quote from: inca on April 15, 2015, 09:47:24 PM

You know the resident troll is failing when the only way to elicit any reaction whatsoever is to create a new account for virtually every troll post. All regular alt accounts ignored by virtually all forum users whether bear or bull.

Reintroducing newbie jail would engineer the desired effect of silencing him permanently I suspect.

I don't like that idea. Newbies can't defend themselves like we can.

Imagine the welcoming committee he would make

Fair point - perhaps that is where the moderating needs to happen. Newbie 'jail' (don't really like the word), with the insta-trolls insta-deleted. TBH I can't see him taking the time and effort to 'do the time'
Perhaps there is a middle ground where trolls could be evicted b4 they ever got to the main boards, without new members being torn to shreds

He is extremely crafty...

^He considers it fun.

I've read some recently about the art of trolling public forums to influence opinion, derail discussion, etc. It's interesting

Quote from: Erdogan on April 15, 2015, 11:36:12 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 15, 2015, 09:54:31 PM

^Trolls don't like me, non-trolls don't like me. I'm like a flying monkey just pissing everyone off. Cry

But you are not ignored.

Ah. Careful who you quote, brother. You could be next on The List!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019752.0

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on April 16, 2015, 02:05:19 AM

Bitstamp shits the bed at 100 coins sold, poor bitstamp.

Local man drinks too much, ruins everything. Angry

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 16, 2015, 09:46:19 AM

Not sure I've seen this thread so dead.

Even the bears are bored.

Everyone's on the new forum xD (but you gotta pay to join!)

I've read about it - Elwar's 'big' news.
Load of crap.
Count me out.

What is it and why do I need it?

Much Ado About Nothing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1025782.0

Yeez Louise!
Am I the only one who got backflashes from Bioshock reading that?
A barge full of rich people in international waters. I wonder what pirates will make of that.
Funny thing is, ethereum would probably be better suited for the forum he's proposing.

He thinks trolls have no money. What a quaint idea Roll Eyes

Quote from: 12345mm on April 16, 2015, 02:56:51 PM

Good news everybody ! My doc put me on valium prozac and torodol ! Plus I'm still drinking ! So I looooove all of you ! Also I no longer care about money or material possessions ! I'm gonna buy a sailboat and find some palm trees some place to string up my hammock ! (i have some really nice incredibly soft hand made hammocks from belize) I'll hang onto my bitcoin and live on my beach until I'm rich or a beach bum hippie ! Yay bitcoin and yay fiat and all of the people of earth hold hands and sing together ! LA lal la la lal lalallalal la !

Now go find your soul mate!

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on April 16, 2015, 10:12:07 PM

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 16, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

This is an embarrassment to us all. I have no words Angry

Seems like Elwar timed it right

No kidding...

Quoted article was from last october, no? Huh

Good point Tongue

He got me in the moral outrage. That's my weakness Cry

Quote from: shmadz on April 17, 2015, 01:54:44 AM

Quote from: ftftftt on April 17, 2015, 12:43:54 AM

ba dum chhh!

What a kick ass rig!

A floppy drive? And a modem!?

All my lousy parents could get me was a Vic 20 with a tape drive. Embarrassed

Took over ten minutes just to load Zaxxon... Cry

My buddy had a C64 though, used to go over to his house all the time to play choplifter.

I remember the locks on those floppy disc boxes. Such security

Quote from: noobtrader on April 18, 2015, 02:06:37 AM

i wonder who short at 222 price range Huh

even if price didnt have trend reversal, how much profit they expect really ?
and if btc hit 0 value do they expect exchange not to run away with their fund anyway ? or hacked ?

My theory: some people have been making money consistently for over a year simply betting that Bitcoin will fall. That's all they know.

Quote from: shmadz on April 19, 2015, 04:07:56 AM

Quote from: mavericklm on April 19, 2015, 04:04:54 AM

this is boring!!!

i want to see 100$!!!

i want to see 400$!!!

go go go!!!
Cheesy

Unfortunately, that is precisely the kind of market movement I suspect the recent bid depth (on both sides mind you) at coinbase is designed to prevent.

It is a genuine and observable wall show. I can almost hear it

http://www.bitlisten.com/

31 BTC buy wall at 225.3 Tongue

Edit: it got eaten...

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31 BTC buy wall at 225.3 Tongue

Edit: it got eaten...

I miss the times where walls of hundreds or thousands coins were common.

And no one would notice a 31 BTC buy order

That's part of the comedy. Watching walls for the sake of staying on-topic is absurd when there are no walls to watch...

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 21, 2015, 11:02:06 PM

Shoulder complete. Is this the head then I guess

Zoom out

Your looking at to narrow of a time frame.

1440cny target has been hit

Bear is happy now.

I think I follow you. Anyway I'm a 7-10 years kind of guy like Norway. I just come here for the free booze.

Quote from: coinableS on April 22, 2015, 01:14:30 AM

Nothing is more funny to a bull than the OKcoin bear that got margin called today for 31,000 BTC/3 million dollars. His wife is gonna kill him.

Would have been better if someone had actually wanted to outright buy that much coin.

Not as funny tho

Edit: 31,000 contracts, not BTC's.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 22, 2015, 01:01:29 AM

He sells his coins and prays for doom. Is this how Tarmi's are born ?? Undecided

Edit: if this works, tomorrow I hit the LCBO on the corner.

I could only sold a pittance.... The rest are all.in play but with stoPs

Oh dear the booze and chemicals are two games ovover, plus in have got a fking hot.woman herenwaiting fordme.to.come to.bed... So yeah night...

Don't break my precious... Unless you wanna trigger my next döooöoooi00000oooOm.slap...and then in which case.... Döoooooom as far as you dare.

Ha oops I probably delete my shmashed gibberish when. I wake up and untangle my self from.this...this..angry .best.Woman.... She job. Named right now
Bye. I...... Anm....getting summoned, tbh I about to collapse.so.may but be my.Best move, analywus, or best shag.... But this is front line reporting at its best

lmao. God speed, soldier.

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Quote from: coinableS on April 22, 2015, 01:14:30 AM

Nothing is more funny to a bull than the OKcoin bear that got margin called today for 31,000 BTC/3 million dollars. His wife is gonna kill him.

No kidding, this guy was slaughtered on the alter of doom and it was a major shot across the bow of the bearmobile. If it can happen to this guy, it could happen to anyone. Wink

Very true. Too many people been getting fat for far too long just betting the fall will continue. Well a year and a half is a long time.

I hope this can be a lesson for the rest of them Angry

Quote from: tarmi on April 22, 2015, 02:01:32 AM

Enjoy it while it lasts bulls.

Cause this bear market is far from over. I kinda agree with masterluc prediction of one more year of slow and painful descend.

I could stand on my head singing God Save the Queen for a year. A year is nothing:

Give empowering his DOOOOOooooomm. I can wait Roll Eyes

219 holy catz, man! What did you animals do??

^The chef is freaking his calm Tongue

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 26, 2015, 05:37:36 AM

Mods are asleep. Post all the things!

Huh? I talk too much?

I'm not technically allowed to write on the wall I think. I take it as it comes. This was all about me. Wink

Try being more substantial. Jackass!

My alter-ego is abusive. That's peculiar...

Skinny wall at 217 approaching fast.

This is going badly. Cry

Empowering's monkey was right!

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Quote from: luckygenough56 on April 26, 2015, 10:25:10 PM

Where is roadmap ?

Where is HTML5 wallet ?

Any meaningful updates since 2008 ?

My wallet not synching.
Are we on fork?
Where is dev?

Gavin should stop by the WO one day. I think he would be pleasantly surprised by the quality of our drolleries. Grin

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on April 27, 2015, 02:34:38 AM

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Quote from: DieJohnny on April 27, 2015, 02:22:13 AM

I think we are going lower. Crytpo is complete dead right now..... all crypto is a sewer of scammers and thieves. Price of everything is being completely destroyed. Start of 2014 market cap for all cryptos was 10 times what it is now and just getting worse......

I am thinking of liquidating, just feels like we are 10 years away.

Same.

Yes, let the despair flow through you. It will get worse before it gets better, do it like a bandaid.

12k before 1xx finex coins... maybe 8k after the fake ones melt.

Barry, his cap, and rabbit, better do something this week.

I'm almost sure you're right... Undecided

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 27, 2015, 02:38:37 AM

I'm almost sure you're right... Undecided

Never trust internet anons.

Here's something: it's a woman!!

http://fortune.com/2015/04/24/women-in-bitcoin/

Quote from: GaliX on April 27, 2015, 11:03:10 PM

Speculations btc-e might close soon so people are panic buying before their fiat gets lost..

Anybody else heard about it?

Not me. I have no idea what is happening.

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That's what I'm thinking but I'm not doubting what camolist posted. But boy, this place died very quickly.

Wish the BTC-e rally would be explained.

somebody bought some bitcoins, there explained.

Expecting more fireworks btw.

why would a buyer of that size buy only one one exchange and push the price so drastically? Unless that was his plan to keep people guessing as he bought slower on other exchanges.

I'm guessing here but isn't BTC-e the last place you can buy mostly anonymously?

Russian cyber mafia?

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If you wanna give me even moar coinz, go ahead. I'm patient and not over-leveraged. The lower it goes, the more buying power I have.

no, stupid fuck.

your buying power will be the same, you will just buy more coins.

My ability to buy coinz will increase, even if the amount of fiat I have to spend remains constant. I'm pretty sure you'll run out of coinz to sell before I run out of fiat, unless I get fired I suppose.

Chinese megaminers have plenty of coins to dump, don't worry about that Grin

BITCOIN TOP-500: 1-50

1. BTC980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto

2. BTC400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)

3. BTC400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)

4. BTC400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)

5. BTC350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"

6. BTC300,000. Roger Ver

7. BTC300,000*. "knightmb"

8. BTC200,000. Mark Karpeles

8.5 BTC182,592. "Loaded"

9. BTC174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)

10. BTC119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)

11. BTC110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss

12. BTC100,000. "klaus"

13. BTC100,000. "mezzomix"

14. BTC75,000. "artforz"

15. BTC70,000. Erik Voorhees

17. BTC30,000. "nakowa"

18. BTC30,000. Mircea Popescu

19. BTC30,000. "Goat"

20. BTC25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya

21. BTC25,000. Gavin Andresen

22. BTC20,000. Max Keiser

23. BTC20,000. "Theymos"

Can anyone vouch for this list? Source?

You know what I wonder: with all these guys with all this money at stake, you'd think they would pay some anti-NLC types to defend the reputation of their investment. Why aren't there more everything is rainbows trolls?

Your coin jars are in the way of your wisdom quote. Kiss

Quote from: inca on April 28, 2015, 04:25:56 PM

What a great setup we have here. Market overwhelmingly bearish with retail shorting bitcoin to all time highs at the end of a bear market. Coin supply dwindling and swap rates rising on finex.

All we need now is a spark start a cascade of short contract capitulation, say, the opening of a wall street etf.

With all due respect to the powers that be, I don't think many of us got into Bitcoin giving a shit about Wall Street. I don't see why that should change now.

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Quote from: inca on April 28, 2015, 04:38:49 PM

What a great setup we have here. Market overwhelmingly bearish with retail shorting bitcoin to all time highs at the end of a bear market. Coin supply dwindling and swap rates rising on finex.

All we need now is a spark start a cascade of short contract capitulation, say, the opening of a wall street etf.

With all due respect to the powers that be, I don't think many of us got into Bitcoin giving a shit about Wall Street. I don't see why that should change now.

True. But for bitcoin to attract new participants it either needs a stable value or not to fuck over everyone who invested previously. A great way for that to happen is for it to function firstly as a store of value (e-gold) and then function as a working currency second.

Gold and silver have destroyed as many fortunes as they've made. I don't expect Bitcoin to behave any differently and don't see why it would.

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Quote from: publicjud on April 28, 2015, 04:50:58 PM

What a great setup we have here. Market overwhelmingly bearish with retail shorting bitcoin to all time highs at the end of a bear market. Coin supply dwindling and swap rates rising on finex.

All we need now is a spark start a cascade of short contract capitulation, say, the opening of a wall street etf.

With all due respect to the powers that be, I don't think many of us got into Bitcoin giving a shit about Wall Street. I don't see why that should change now.

True. But for bitcoin to attract new participants it either needs a stable value or not to fuck over everyone who invested previously. A great way for that to happen is for it to function firstly as a store of value (e-gold) and then function as a working currency second.

Gold and silver have destroyed as many fortunes as they've made. I don't expect Bitcoin to behave any differently and don't see why it would.

If you cannot see what suddenly allowing the vast sea of investment capital (multi trillion dollar pool) access to btc could potentially do to the price then I can't help you. Just fifty million USD would smash the price into the stratosphere.

Big picture remains that bitcoin is an excellent assymetric financial bet to speculate upon. Why do you think all the trolls and bears are really here?

Bears and trolls are here probably to talk up their shorts, which have been considerably more successful than my long. Undecided

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Quote from: empowering on April 28, 2015, 09:59:02 PM

What a great setup we have here. Market overwhelmingly bearish with retail shorting bitcoin to all time highs at the end of a bear market. Coin supply dwindling and swap rates rising on finex.

All we need now is a spark start a cascade of short contract capitulation, say, the opening of a wall street etf.

With all due respect to the powers that be, I don't think many of us got into Bitcoin giving a shit about Wall Street. I don't see why that should change now.

True. But for bitcoin to attract new participants it either needs a stable value or not to fuck over everyone who invested previously. A great way for that to happen is for it to function firstly as a store of value (e-gold) and then function as a working currency second.

Gold and silver have destroyed as many fortunes as they've made. I don't expect Bitcoin to behave any differently and don't see why it would.

If you cannot see what suddenly allowing the vast sea of investment capital (multi trillion dollar pool) access to btc could potentially do to the price then I can't help you. Just fifty million USD would smash the price into the stratosphere.

Big picture remains that bitcoin is an excellent assymetric financial bet to speculate upon. Why do you think all the trolls and bears are really here?

Bears and trolls are here probably to talk up their shorts, which have been considerably more successful than my long. Undecided

You have as much of an agenda as anyone then...

I guess. But I want the good guys to win. Sad

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Let me use my common sense. Back on ignore you troll...

That's ironic (or pathetic), coming from an account that was created specifically to troll another user... Cheesy

How is that different from why you made your account?

What are you talking about?

For those folks in gelid Scandinavia and anywhere else the news may not have arrived yet: @fonsie created his account specifically to troll @fonzie, one of the smartest contributors to this forum (so much so that he easily won the bitcoin price prediction contest for 2014). But @fonzie has been rather absent of late, so @fonsie changed his life mission to troll the undersigned. Then he, or someone who thinks very much like him, created another account "@trolfi" with the same life mission -- making me the only member of this forum with not one, but *two* Exclusive Personal Trolls, a distinction that I will forever remember with pride. But then he may have found it hard to manage the two accounts at the same time, or his employer refused to pay twice for two very similar sockpuppets, or something; anyway, @trolfi seems to have left us for good.

I hope that this background information will help newbies understand some things that otherwise may seem to make no sense, such as @fonsie's bizarre signature and avatar.

This is literally the funniest and most interesting post you have ever contributed.

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................. wut?

It may be the "trolliest" thing Jorge has ever posted.......... quite amusing, I assume it was meant in a dry sense Wink

(hint: as is my post)

Empowering is drunk on monkey success and Spanish women. He'd find anything funny right now. Cheesy

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Has anyone else noticed that bitcoin price has stayed in the range of ~$170 to $320 for the entire year so far? there was not a single four month period in 2014 when price stayed in a $150 range. Not even close.

it won't last long Huh

That depends on what you mean by "long". Stability makes bitcoin more useful which makes it more valuable which causes the price to rise until it goes parabolic, where it becomes less useful and crashes.

Ohhhhhhhhhh............

In case you missed it: https://twitter.com/RippleLabs/status/593171702516817920

"We're excited to announce ... we're working w/@WesternUnion on a pilot to provide infrastructure for real-time settlement."

You may now shake your heads. Roll Eyes

Quote from: damiano on April 30, 2015, 12:33:10 AM

I'm blind

I didn't see nothin'.

Quote from: coinableS on April 30, 2015, 12:42:07 AM

NLC is ultra trolling with porno pics. She is exploding like a boss at the end of game. She has nothing left and is admitting defeat. It was a long battle, but we won. BTC FTW!

One day, this war is going to end...

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Quote from: Sitarow on April 30, 2015, 12:34:30 AM

bullish

every single one of these people needs putting down!!

aka - euthanised

aka - culled

Because they are letting a bull out of a cage or are you talking about actual bullish folks on bitcoin? I don't think I've ever heard such terrible speak on this forum if the latter is true.

This place hasn't been the same since the geezer porn incident of about an hour ago. I think it changed some of us.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 30, 2015, 02:45:59 AM

Because they are letting a bull out of a cage or are you talking about actual bullish folks on bitcoin? I don't think I've ever heard such terrible speak on this forum if the latter is true.

This place hasn't been the same since the geezer porn incident of about an hour ago. I think it changed some of us.

Again?! Didn't fonzie do that last? The time when he got drunk and high and cheated on the trading simulator?

LOL. Wall Street, meet 4chan.

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Today we announced a major step forward in the execution of our vision and product strategy. We've closed a new $50 million strategic investment round co-led by Goldman Sachs and IDG Capital Partners.

http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/30/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/

Gentlemen, get your engines ready

Whoa. You would have been called a dreamer predicting this kind of news "in three years" in 2012.

I'd like to know more about that bikini girl. How does she figure into all of this?

http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/30/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/

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1. There is the only way not to waste resources: not to exist. I believe you do exist. Criticizing others for things you do yourself is hypocrisy.

Wrong. Nothing about existing implies wasting resources. Taking a plate of food is called using resources. Eating all the food off the table, so you can puke & your buddies get to go hungry is called wasting

In both cases you use food to satisfy some your desires. If you live, you have desires and consume resources to satisfy them. The only way to avoid it is by not living. Being unable to face the truth, you are inventing artificial distinction between "right" and "wrong" desires, between "needs" and "whims".

Allrighty there, Beyond Good and Evil Jr., I'm sure that sort of thing seemed edgy in intro to Phil 101, but we're grownups here. I explained to you that it's possible to exist without wasting resources, that use != waste. That there is a difference between necessities and luxuries, that even though composing a symphony is, objectively, no better than fucking your neighbor's dog, normal folks tend to think less of the latter.

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white boy.

No need to repeat it. We've get your point (that you are racist, sexist, ageist and proud of it

) from the first time.

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WTF is "default human behavior"? It's default human behavior to be a greedy asshole if you're a greedy asshole.

Valuing your desires higher then other people's desires (with some exceptions, like parental or reciprocal altruism) is default behavior, it's hard-coded in our genes.

Hard-coded in our genes? Where did you dig up that chunk of pseudo-science? Give me a week, and I can make you salivate at the sound of a bell, and drop to the floor, shitting yourself in terror, when I turn on a blue light. Tell me more about this hard-coding tho, I'm all ears.

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That's the sort of thing normal people control in themselves & discourage in their children. It's wrong. It's something to be ashamed of.

Right. One of most common form of egoism is demanding altruism from others. That is the hypocrisy. It's hard-coded as well. That's why we see it so often (3 examples in your previous post alone).

I demanded nothing from you. I told you what normal people do, their values - just a laundry list of facts.
You've mistook those simple statements for demands - that's serious psychopathology, demanding of today's powerful neuropharmaceuticals.

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Blaming people for their color is racism. I believe that you are frowning on racists. Criticizing others for things you do yourself is hypocrisy.

White suburban kid with reading impediment confirmed. Stop whining about racism, whitey

Speaking about reading impediment. It was not about racism it was about hypocrisy. If you really want to choose a thing to avoid and be ashamed of, I would recommend this one. It's really disgusting, much worse than racism or farting at an opera.

P.S. Creating new account for your previous message and talking there about "things to be ashamed of" is another example of hypocrisy. Thanks for giving us this example

You are ~~a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur~~ batshit crazy.
Come on, not only do you think I'm (whatever the user's nick was), but you consider yourself the cause of a new account?

Given your firm grasp of reality, powerful intellect & superlative overall mental state, shouldn't you be posting in Reptillia and/or Cypherdoc's threads?
You might feel more comfortable there...

Well in any event, welcome to the forum new friend.

I just got back from May Day demonstrations in Montreal, myself. Got gassed a little bit.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/anti-capitalism-may-day-protest-in-montreal-declared-illegal-1.3058316

Refusons l'austerite!!1

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Well in any event, welcome to the forum new friend.

I just got back from May Day demonstrations in Montreal, myself. Got gassed a little bit.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/anti-capitalism-may-day-protest-in-montreal-declared-illegal-1.3058316

Refusons l'austerite!!1

I can never tell when you're talking out of your ass, but that looks quite insane.

Not the Canada we are used to think of.

*Fatman stabs BMB in heart* "It's only a flesh wound. 'Tis but a scratch, really." Cry

Quebecois are a fiery proud people. I was mostly just a conscientious spectator. But I was there ^TM

Old episode of Survivor.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on May 02, 2015, 06:43:58 PM

Good grief, this place is beginning to look like a ghost town. Adam even pulled out and left this place for dead.

He drops in every now and then to call a rally. The price is then almost guaranteed to go down the toilet at that very moment for some mysterious reason.

The price always seems to toilet right after dinner, actually. Very strange. And sometimes right before dinner. And during brunch. And everytime it rains...

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4 months ago I was able to buy at 220 CAD...

THAT would make me feel better! Angry

Don't blame you for wanting lower prices - anyone buying now has got to be crazy (prob'ly why no one is Undecided

)

Who would want to buy a Bitcoin anyway? Preverts mostly. Amirite?

When they get too tired to punch you, you win!

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You just 'turned on' the troll-putz by giving it the time of day. Please tell me you were bored and said, oh what the hell...

He's not a monster. He's just ahead of the curve.

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You just 'turned on' the troll-putz by giving it the time of day. Please tell me you were bored and said, oh what the hell...

He's not a monster. He's just ahead of the curve.

BMB! Buddy! Guy! Friend!

Tell me, are you NLC?

It's odd that. I've been called his sock so often I've lost count. Tbh I wish I had his way with words. We must share some humour in common... I dunno. I just think he's a natural satirist and deadly funny.

I also think that trolling Bitcoin on the internets is in the grand scheme of price discovery about as effective as spitting into the wind, so it doesn't really worry me like it does some. IDK. What do you think?

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You just 'turned on' the troll-putz by giving it the time of day. Please tell me you were bored and said, oh what the hell...

He's not a monster. He's just ahead of the curve.

BMB! Buddy! Guy! Friend!

Tell me, are you NLC?

It's odd that. I've been called his sock so often I've lost count. Tbh I wish I had his way with words. We must share some humour in common... I dunno. I just think he's a natural satirist and deadly funny.

I also think that trolling Bitcoin on the internets is in the grand scheme of price discovery about as effective as spitting into the wind, so it doesn't really worry me like it does some. IDK. What do you think?

I think all you guys are screwing with my head and this entire thread is here just to make me go loony.

LOL.

I'm waiting for word from empowering and his monkey...

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 03, 2015, 01:17:23 PM

I'm waiting for word from empowering and his monkey...

He's busy spanking it.

(I will run the "spank the monkey" joke until someone gives me a lol)

My body is ready.

^This looks like that episode of Scooby Doo where the gang visits Star Trek and gets caught in a wormhole.

Also: no signs of the troll kings. I guess they feel their services aren't as effective when the price isn't tanking. Seeds of doubt are best sewn in despair. I'm starting to get it now.

Quote from: Zangelbert Bingledack on May 03, 2015, 07:45:13 PM

Tim Swanson thinks transactions cost 25 BTC divided by the number of transactions in a block. That's a complete misunderstanding of not just what the block reward does but of what Bitcoin even is. He has gathered some interesting data, but his analysis is unlikely to be of much use as he has no fundamental understanding of Bitcoin in the first place.

Tim Swanson is one of the few widely published that really seems to understand Bitcoin if you ask me. I think his advocacy of so-called permissioned ledgers stems from the premise that decentralization hurts the ability of Bitcoin to integrate into the current legal/regulatory pigeon-holes. I personally don't find that compelling, but that seems to me to be the nut of his argument.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on May 03, 2015, 07:16:38 PM

The way I see it: some banks are starting to invest in bitcoin companies (but not bitcoin the currency itself) simply because they suspect that something will come out of this whole crypto thing. It doesn't have to be bitcoin the currency itself, it doesn't have to be a "coin", maybe a payment network, maybe another technology, a distributed ledger system, who knows.

As Boston Fed Researchers and Bank of England explained a few months ago, a lot of these investments in bitcoin related companies are done because "even if bitcoin is unlikely to succeed, it will spur innovation".

You need to consider something here:
1. It's not true that bitcoin (a token) and the underlying technology (a distributed ledger) are inseparable. As the Tim Swanson report showed (http://www.ofnumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Permissioned-distributed-ledgers.pdf).
2. The pioneers are almost never the settlers. Facebook was not the first social network. Google was not the first search engine., etc.
What I'm saying is not that bitcoin will be replaced by a random existing shitcoin (those are pretty much all pump&dumps). My point is that you shouldn't take for granted that bitcoin => moon because some aspects of the underlying technology can be useful, because some people tell you that blockchain and bitcoin are inseparable, or because some banks are currently starting to invest in bitcoin companies.

Everything is possible of course, just don't take it for granted.

Do you have a quote of what you are referring to? Or at least a chapter or a page to back up your statement?

The Tim Swanson report I linked talks about it extensively.

Be careful tho I said that distibuted ledger technology and a reward token are not inseparable. Because technically yes the bitcoin blockchain needs bitcoin as a reward token, the network is dependent on its price etc.

I haven't read too closely (not closely at all, which is why I asked for a quote) but the kinds of networks where the blockchain and the token is separable it seems that no value is transferred. It will function purely as a ledger and the value will have to be transferred otherwise. If true, that seems quite limiting.

Here's a link to a pdf of Anatomy of A Money-Like Informational Commodity: https://www.google.ca/search?q=tim+swanson+the+anatomy+of+a+money+like+inforational+commodity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&gfe_rd=cr&ei=AH5GVdX6KOeM8Qefr4DgAQ

It's a good read.

You bunch of dicks

I asked for something a bit less than a 66 page analysis and you throw a 318 page book back at me

FFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUU

Quote from: Alley on May 05, 2015, 12:20:23 AM

Nobody is buying or selling actual bitcoins with gbtc. They are shares of stock. Completely separate.

Nawt liek any stalk I eva herd of.

*edited for lolspeak*

Fatman Y U still think Imma troll? Y?

If a Bitcoiner pricks me do I not BLEEED?
If price tanks do I not but DOOOM with U my brother?

Bitcoin is good, Bitcoin is great. GOOOOOOO Bitcoins!!!

Quote from: Wary on May 05, 2015, 11:51:56 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 05, 2015, 11:37:19 PM

Quote from: Wary on May 05, 2015, 11:34:17 PM

After such long, unexpected and exhausting bear stretch I'm just afraid to be an optimist.

Being cynical simply to avoid ridicule is the way of the coward. Rejoice and praise the rocket gifs! We are going to da blimmin mooooon!!!!

Also, I'm a miner so I don't really have a choice.

Granted, cynicism is just the same error as naivety, just in opposite direction. But it's not ridicule what I'm afraid of. It's making wrong bet.
As for "no choice", remember: Even if you are swallowed, you still have two exits.

No one is going to be churned up in the guts of anything. Stop being so negative all the time!

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 06, 2015, 12:07:38 AM

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Quote from: Wary on May 05, 2015, 11:51:56 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 05, 2015, 11:37:19 PM

Quote from: Wary on May 05, 2015, 11:34:17 PM

After such long, unexpected and exhausting bear stretch I'm just afraid to be an optimist.

Being cynical simply to avoid ridicule is the way of the coward. Rejoice and praise the rocket gifs! We are going to da blimmin mooooon!!!!

Also, I'm a miner so I don't really have a choice.

Granted, cynicism is just the same error as naivety, just in opposite direction. But it's not ridicule what I'm afraid of. It's making wrong bet.
As for "no choice", remember: Even if you are swallowed, you still have two exits.

No one is going to be churned up in the guts of anything. Stop being so negative all the time!

I'm NOT sure about whether the question is about being too negative or NOT... It just seems that the reality of the matter is that we are going to need to see quite a few changes in market dynamics to reverse the bear trend.

Surely, if BTC prices were to double, then a lot of press would come to BTC, and maybe we could continue the upward price trajectory.... on the other hand, now-a-days, as compared with 18 months ago, there are a lot more market mechanisms that allow the shorting of bitcoin... and therefore, it seems that people do NOT even need to hold bitcoin in order to bet against them (or to sell them)... In that regard, seems like that there is some fractional reserve banking going on in the bitcoin world (which seems to be contrary to the public ledger and contrary to the original blockchain design of BTC).

It seems possible that some day, bitcoin market mechanisms will be created that will recognize more value to those people who actually hold actual bitcoins.... but at this point, there seems to be too much diluting of the value of bitcoin going on which seems to be causing downward price pressures, including keeping these prices in the $200s territory for more than 4 months.

This is revolution. No one promised us a rose garden.

At least it was until Wikileaks accepted Visa and Prime Dice blacklisted America...Now it's more like Pac-Man, but still: revolutionary.

Quote from: Jammalan the Prophet on May 06, 2015, 12:40:02 AM

Quote from: Tabata11 on May 06, 2015, 12:32:30 AM

another dump coming soon? look at that ask wall

Please be more specific , that wall (size , thickness , material , texture , color , odor) on WHAT exchange?

It's fashioned from the plucked brow of a fictional rock god IIRC...

Quote from: ChartBuddy on May 06, 2015, 12:57:57 AM

Is there anybody...

out there?

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 06, 2015, 01:21:03 AM

Is there anybody...

out there?

Quote from: Jammalan the Prophet on May 06, 2015, 01:30:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 06, 2015, 01:21:03 AM

Is there anybody...

out there?

No , it's just you , the walls , and that mysterious wall on an unknown exchange tabata11 was talking about.

I'd be happy to observe walls with you, brother. Unfortunately I'm just sort of the entertainment. (Imagine an unpopular lounge act playing the night show in a closed theatre.)

Quote from: Wary on May 06, 2015, 03:56:32 AM

How rude.

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Quote from: ssmc2 on May 07, 2015, 09:50:17 PM

$ 2 4 0 COMING UP

Ain't nothing wrong with dreaming. When things are this hopeless, what else is there?

Somehow newbies are always eager to write such statements. Almost every single "bitcoin is dead" post on this forum comes from a new account.

The chances of it being a newbie are slim in the extreme. It's the same old psycho dullard droning away. It is such a dead cert I pretty much auto ignore any newbie in this section without bothering to read. Sorry real newbies.

I kinda get a kick out of how many sox are opened and am mesmerized by the sheer derangement it must take to be such a rabid troll of any forum out there. I've been on certain forums for many years and I've never seen one like this. Can anyone comprehend what this person's life looks like in years to come...

He's a seasoned lolcow herder; he was here before you and will probably be here after you're gone. And so it goes. Cool

*edited for sense

Quote from: billyjoeallen on May 07, 2015, 11:20:17 PM

Starting to look like a bullish pennant on the 1 hr chart.

edit: or not.

Price discovery = finding out just what a mother will pay to keep her child alive.

Quote from: rmbku on May 08, 2015, 12:40:26 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 08, 2015, 12:27:26 AM

^I think I see where this is headed. Cheesy

/duck

Seriously tho, who loves bulls? I...<snip>

It takes all kinds, my friend.

Quote from: ejinte on May 09, 2015, 02:00:09 AM

what do we want?

MOON!

when do we want it?

Quote from: coinableS on May 09, 2015, 02:14:53 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 09, 2015, 02:05:45 AM

Quote from: ejinte on May 09, 2015, 02:00:09 AM

what do we want?

MOON!

when do we want it?

Whatever time is most convenient. No rush.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 09, 2015, 08:29:42 AM

Dump?

Keep shitting up the thread with outrageous comments like that and yer on a fasttrack to The List, my friend! Angry

J/k

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 09, 2015, 08:47:00 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 09, 2015, 08:45:31 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 09, 2015, 08:29:42 AM

Dump?

Keep shitting up the thread with outrageous comments like that and yer on a fasttrack to The List, my friend! Angry

J/k

BMB, you forgot to use a sock. We can see you.

I figure I'm being ignored by most everybody here already. I can pretty much say whatever I want now.

Horse pants sunshine baseball. See!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 09, 2015, 09:34:04 AM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on May 09, 2015, 09:27:49 AM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on May 08, 2015, 09:26:09 PM

I wouldn't be overly shocked to see it correct back into the $230's before the $250's again.

Hell of a good past few days!

OKcoin futures trading a few dollars over market Shocked

There was our $230's dip.

I think we break through $250 next push.

??

Ok, 239.6 on BTC-E.

Cutting it close. The best way to cut it.

This really rustles my jimmies. Someone tell me why we need BTC-E again? Undecided

^^^I get it. Grin

Quote from: rmbku on May 09, 2015, 11:31:00 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 09, 2015, 11:13:36 PM

[]
If this doesn't go sky high rather immediately I will lose all faith in humanity.[]

Cheer up Champ! When life gets me down, I just remember the wise words of our beloved cult leader:
"Bitcoin is the Final Solution to mankind's greatest problem."--Table Talk, Sätöshi Näkämötö

CCMF! All aboard!

“Let there be nothing harmonious about our children's playthings, lest they grow up expecting peace and order, and be eaten alive.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Mother Night

Quote from: shmadz on May 10, 2015, 08:38:28 AM

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Quote from: shmadz on May 10, 2015, 08:29:46 AM

Quote from: Wings1987 on May 10, 2015, 08:27:49 AM

China looks to be leading this little pump. Wonder what triggered it.

It was the kiss gif, obviously.

Duh!

Silly me. Of course. Post more!

ACK! To late! I fear there will be brokeback gif incoming and red dildos to follow! Angry

(Note to self: must refrain from posting while drunk)

@shmadz

I wish I knew how to quit you.

^^Stable. Mainstream. Bitcoin.

Quote from: rmbku on May 10, 2015, 10:08:52 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 10, 2015, 08:47:14 PM

^^Stable. Mainstream. Bitcoin.

Have you watched any of these yet? Nicely produced and full of puns

Friendship is Witchcraft. <=click

P.S: Yes, there's nothing happening Sad

Mah sides

Thank you.

P.S. Back to $200 then?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 10, 2015, 11:42:03 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on May 10, 2015, 11:29:45 PM

Does anyone seriously think that the people who invested hundreds of millions into the the infrastructure are not going to buy any coin also? there are over 12,000,000 millionaires (USD) in the world. If they decided to buy an average of one bitcoin each, there would barely be enough to go around. A bitcoin costs about ~ $240, one four thousandth of a million dollars or 0.00025%.

Even if they are almost certain bitcoin will fail, that's an extremely cheap insurance policy against them being wrong.

There are seven and a half billion people in the world. If one person in 577,000 bought in average of one bitcoin each, there would barely be enough to go around.

Bitcoins are scarce. They are precious. In a world with capital controls, trade sanctions, negative interest rates and confiscatory government policies, it is the currency with almost zero storage and transfer fees. It's resistant to theft, forfeiture, clawbacks, seizure, and debasement. It is the future and bears are on the wrong side of history.

And if flies were monkeys we would all be covered in monkey poo.

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on May 12, 2015, 01:35:34 AM

Quote from: Karpeles on May 12, 2015, 01:15:54 AM

bulls and bears trolls all quiet.

Signs of a big sideline?

No kidding, there's more action at a ~~seminary~~cemetery ~~then~~than around here ~~these~~ lately. No more ten plus pages per day until something gives.

Don't forget to whistle past the graveyard. It gives the ded something to do.

Quote from: YourMother on May 12, 2015, 10:31:01 PM

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on May 12, 2015, 09:46:31 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on May 12, 2015, 09:32:41 PM

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on May 12, 2015, 09:28:11 PM

After reading your post it occurred to me that the fat blob con artist who ran Mintpal could conceivably have been behind many of the scam coins it listed. I assumed he only got away with the Bitcoins he stole from peoples accounts, but he could have ripped people off for far more if he was a "dev" behind multiple coins. We always had to trust Mintpal's voting system fairly decided which coin to list next, but it might have been fixed

Wasn't he a relatively recent arrival though? I remember Mintpal being a fine exchange once upon a time. If I remember rightly Mintpal con boy's notoriety started with Doge. The creator of that may have turned out to be a shrill knob, but he wasn't a con artist or that guy.

This thread dated July 28 says Mintpal had been sold to Moolah. The Moolah owner seems to have disappeared in October, which gave him two months to do anything he liked. I remember the switch to the new v2 website took a long time and was a total disaster, but he must have had a window of time in which he could have listed some of his own scam coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714650.0

Oh, that butchered Mintpal V2 launch. He/They supposedly "lost" the database while launching the new exchange. A new exchange that was actually powered by a non-functional admin theme bought from themeforest for 15 dollars.

Man, I don't think that i will ever have the opportunity to laugh like in 2014 in my lifetime. Scam after scam after scam and a lot of people that were under the "Wolf of Wall Street" euphoria. A lot of the newbies thought that they were professional traders. Shitcoins were having up to 10k BTC volume per day on shady exchanges, GOX, fallen dark markets etc, you name it, it was happening.

The only thing that could revive the epic scams of 2014 would be a radical increase in bitcoin's price. The hype would then bring a ton of new interested naive users ready to dive in into the world of get-rich-quick-schemes and candy colored coins.

My mother was never so hysterically indifferent to the troubles of those touched by ill-fortune. No. You remind me more of my father....

I hated my father.

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on May 13, 2015, 03:57:03 AM

Quote from: Peecock on May 13, 2015, 12:06:45 AM

BlindMayorBitcorn: Listen to what YourMother says.

Sock challenging another sock of what their sock is saying. It's all crystal clear at this moment what is going on in this thread. Peep it, yall!

Don't call me a sock. It stopped being funny.

Thank you.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 13, 2015, 07:54:16 AM

Quote from: S3052 on May 13, 2015, 05:43:02 AM

we will soon see a bitcoin breakout of the 200-300 $ range

"soon"

I've watched you become almost imperceptibly more skeptical over time. And funny. I like that!

Someone hasn't been paying attention: toasters mining Bitcoinz!! Bullish. Guise??

Quote from: luckygenough56 on May 13, 2015, 11:18:57 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 13, 2015, 11:15:11 PM

Someone hasn't been paying attention: toasters mining Bitcoinz!! Bullish. Guise??

Toaster farms soon, beware of 51% attack !

Please don't quote BMB. Roll Eyes

^^Spoiler alert.

He doesn't do it.

Were these supposed to be funny? Angry

@Cconvert2G36 you beat me to it shakes fist

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on May 14, 2015, 12:30:57 AM

All the dumb ass toaster miner shows is that if there is a VC in the world willing to dump $116 million into that... surely there are at least 10 that will put $50 million into Bitcoin. What would a few $500,000 market order do to these thin ass markets?

Wtf is a the point of a Bitcoin Toaster? Do they figure that is the most commonly plugged in thing in day to day peoples lifes?

Bitcoin's killer app.

U beta recognize!

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on May 14, 2015, 06:13:45 PM

ASIC toasters

We did the toaster thing yesterday. Tongue

Quote from: kodtycoon on May 15, 2015, 12:47:32 AM

its guna jump up to 245-247 in the next 3-4 hours.... then >250 within hours of the first jump

source

Seems legit.

@ChartBuddy That's preposterous!

Bitcoiners are the Eliot Rosewater's of high finance. Let them be fruitful and multiply.

Quote from: Stevenirving on May 15, 2015, 11:17:55 PM

Bad long

And so it goes. Undecided

God Bless you, Mr Stevenirving

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 16, 2015, 08:17:20 AM

Quote from: ipbo on May 16, 2015, 08:09:20 AM

There is always a good time to buy,sell and hold your bitcoins.When the time comes you will be surprised of the result.

Which time? Always?

Yep.

Not my Angus again??

Quote from: Stevenirving on May 16, 2015, 10:40:49 PM

Newbie rule?
Please?
These days I look at post count before reading the post.
I wish we could separate the speculation section into two parts. One for the bulls and one for the bears.

Who gets custody of ChartBuddy?

Quote from: Wekkel on May 17, 2015, 10:19:46 AM

Its called bottoming (no one caring anymore). Dont worry, this is actually a good sign.

Where's Jimbo and how's his coffee this morning?

Quote from: Feri22 on May 17, 2015, 10:51:33 PM

Ok now i understand why almost all old bitcoiners left this thread...they left because trolls, i had actually fun sometimes by shroomskit, fonzie etc...but now the quality of this thread went even lower...whoever find posting such images in bitcoin thread funny is really poor, cheap, stupid and really lame...it was such a great community before...what i don't understand is why with so great budget as bitcointalk has from donations there are no paid mods...I am really sorry fo guys showing the parents where is good spot for finding most recent news in btc and they see such images...

What did I miss?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 17, 2015, 11:03:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 17, 2015, 10:56:27 PM

Quote from: Feri22 on May 17, 2015, 10:51:33 PM

Ok now i understand why almost all old bitcoiners left this thread...they left because trolls, i had actually fun sometimes by shroomskit, fonzie etc...but now the quality of this thread went even lower...whoever find posting such images in bitcoin thread funny is really poor, cheap, stupid and really lame...it was such a great community before...what i don't understand is why with so great budget as bitcointalk has from donations there are no paid mods...I am really sorry fo guys showing the parents where is good spot for finding most recent news in btc and they see such images...

What did I miss?

Your post was deleted

I thought you were through with that

I have a black humour I know. Bitcoin can take it. But I'm not NLC! Geez.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 17, 2015, 11:20:10 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 17, 2015, 11:16:34 PM

I have a black humour I know. Bitcoin can take it. But I'm not NLC! Geez.

...er pr0n?

I know you, man!

I know what makes you tick!

Um.

I had to look that up.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on May 18, 2015, 12:09:06 AM

Quote from: inca on May 18, 2015, 12:05:56 AM

Its quiet. Too quiet

Where is dev Huh

Never gets old Cheesy

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Quote from: derpinheimer on May 18, 2015, 02:18:07 AM

I am expecting some dumps in T-30 minutes.

They will be in the range of 80,000 to 100,000BTC.

Thank me later. Wink

...if only I could tell which gossip to believe... My average buy price is around $300 and I've been hodling/slowly accumulating for a couple of years now.... I read pages and pages of what amounts to "shit" every day, all over the intermanet and have never had the nuts to attempt a single tradle. If you're not just talking your book, I thank you for sharing this tidbit of gold in this sea of faecies.

It's his book. Roll Eyes

Edit: might be yours, too. Wink

My paltry stash of bitcorns are too few in number to be considered a "book".

I've become all angsty and jaded, maybe. I guess we are all bent one way or the other. I've noticed personally that I stopped listening to anyone above Sr. Member. Nobody that bought in at $23 can possible say anything to reassure me at this point.

Sometimes the things you say are so stupid, people will think I'm a retarded monkey. Have you even considered that?! Angry

Sorry bro. Undecided

Quote from: nioc on May 21, 2015, 08:45:22 PM

I haven't owned a toaster for 20 years and have no plans for getting one.

I'm sorry. But how can you live without a toaster?? Serious question!

Quote from: nioc on May 25, 2015, 02:38:07 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 21, 2015, 10:54:28 PM

Quote from: nioc on May 21, 2015, 08:45:22 PM

I haven't owned a toaster for 20 years and have no plans for getting one.

I'm sorry. But how can you live without a toaster?? Serious question!

Nice avatar!

There have been many different rhythms to my life the past 20 years and very few of them required toast. White bread gains the most by being toasted and I don't eat that. Presently I'm out of the house before 5AM without eating breakfast. My gf doesn't live with me, that is the biggest reason.

We live in very different worlds you and I. Undecided

Quote from: alesx.onfire on May 29, 2015, 12:35:13 AM

Remeber the bitcoin bear whale (30k), from $385 to $275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0hpNAUTK3c

Looks like the Devil's Etch-a-Sketch. Embarrassed

Someone came out on the Reddit right after claiming to be him. Anybody remember?

Quote from: gentlemand on May 29, 2015, 01:18:02 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 29, 2015, 01:13:55 AM

Someone came out on the Reddit right after claiming to be him. Anybody remember?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2idr55/i_am_the_bitcoin_bear_whale_throwaway_for_obvious/

Probably one of many, but there's one. I can't say he's very convincing. You have to do a little more than say 'I am the bearwhale'.

Classic

Quote from: gentlemand on May 29, 2015, 01:21:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 29, 2015, 01:19:50 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on May 29, 2015, 01:18:02 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 29, 2015, 01:13:55 AM

Someone came out on the Reddit right after claiming to be him. Anybody remember?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2idr55/i_am_the_bitcoin_bear_whale_throwaway_for_obvious/

Probably one of many, but there's one. I can't say he's very convincing. You have to do a little more than say 'I am the bearwhale'.

Classic

And does the bearwhale really 'run errands'? I assume he has an army of oiled nubiles for that type of boring stuff.

There are oiled nubile clubs in Tokyo where the dancers come around with a plate full of QR-code. Seems quaint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzYSY1P3_9w

Edit: of course it's the bearwhale. I guess he's all in fiat anyway.

Quote from: kaykawa on May 30, 2015, 11:17:56 PM

bears will eat history shite?
Shocked

I see my posts are being deleted again. That's good. Censorship of radical ideas is important for social cohesion or something probably. And I'm nothing if not radical.

Anyway I'm sure glad this one survived the cut. Pure, unabashed Bitcoin wisdom for the ages. Go get 'em, kaykawa!!

Quote from: Fakhoury on May 31, 2015, 11:15:35 PM

Quote from: GaliX on May 31, 2015, 11:11:33 PM

we broke every trendline.... This is never going to stay stable above 200$ for much longer... Just one big guy saying he is done is enough right now

Bullish ? Bearish ?

Three toed slothish?

Verily he saith^^ It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a hurricane than for a Bitcoin to perpetually fall sidewaysish. Lo...

...and behold!

Quote from: pleaseexplainagain on June 01, 2015, 12:54:10 AM

I call this stagnation thing gothic. not in the architecture sense but those young people dressed in black and looking glum/angry even on a sunny day. I am 61 and have seen goths since I first noticed them at about 11?. The number of goths leaving gothdom (eg to get married, take up jobs etc) seems to perfectly match the new numbers joining (ie from the 13-18 age group). So at any time over the last 50 years the same number of goths seem to be walking around.

~~I'm not going to Google image search frantically for a goth sloth. If that's what you thought...~~

I'm a weak man. Embarrassed

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on June 01, 2015, 11:17:30 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 01, 2015, 11:16:27 PM

Just focus on the toaster bud Tongue

Will there be a white light?

Quote from: ChartBuddy on June 04, 2015, 12:57:28 AM

Quote from: Fakhoury on June 05, 2015, 12:38:04 AM

You're not helping. Angry

What and why major dump is coming ?

Could someone kindly answer me as I hate being fooled when everybody is understanding what is going on.

Thanks.

Inflation and decreased demand?

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/382f6e/current_bitcoin_inflation_below_9

Quote from: Fakhoury on June 05, 2015, 12:48:49 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 05, 2015, 12:44:32 AM

Quote from: Fakhoury on June 05, 2015, 12:38:04 AM

What and why major dump is coming ?

Could someone kindly answer me as I hate being fooled when everybody is understanding what is going on.

Thanks.

Inflation and decreased demand?

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/382f6e/current_bitcoin_inflation_below_9

Inflation is reaching historical minimum as I've read several times and I knkw that we lake the demand.

But what is in the horizion happening and I can't understand.

People are talking about the coming days as if a disaster will take place.

That's just the way we talk Embarrassed

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on June 05, 2015, 01:53:30 AM

go long FUD

If only

Edit: and short sanity on leverage every chance you get Tongue

Quote from: soullyG on June 05, 2015, 12:08:51 PM

Quote from: gizmoh on June 05, 2015, 11:10:56 AM

From Gemini Instagram, Launching soon:

https://instagram.com/geminidotcom/

Rocket to Moon: Cool

https://instagram.com/p/3e2gb8hNuJ/?taken-by=geminidotcom

Don't show that to BayAreaCoins, he might get tricked into thinking moon is guaranteed... Roll Eyes

Quote from: cyclotronmajesty on June 05, 2015, 11:26:26 PM

Awww where did it go? That was funny! Did moderators take down the South Park post alluding to the cointelegraph article?
Comon guys... so sensitive... Roll Eyes

I doubt even the post alluding to the South Park post alluding to the Cointelegraph article is safe. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on June 06, 2015, 12:10:54 AM

That's fucked up lol

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102737187

No place does a $5 wrench quite like Brooklyn Tongue

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on June 08, 2015, 02:06:59 AM

♫"And she's buying a stairway to $200"♪

♫"And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune,
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long,
And the forests will echo with laughter.♫"

Quote from: edgar on June 08, 2015, 12:44:30 PM

sold 9. bring the blood

Quote from: luckygenough56 on June 08, 2015, 12:24:32 PM

i, troll, bought 3 more bitcoins

It's the circle of life Undecided

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 09, 2015, 07:48:56 PM

Bought another 1.5 bitcoin earlier, I just figure that even if we don't go to the moon then buying in now it's still easily achievable to double your money by the time the next halving comes.
My priority is to HODL my stash, it's what I've done since the very first day I entered the world of bitcoin but seriously people now is a great time to buy in.
Interest rates in banks are embarrassingly low, bitcoin is the perfect way to make a great return on your money especially now when the price is low. I'm thinking we'll reach at least 400 USD as a result of the next halving so what are you waiting for?
BUY BUY BUY !!!!!!

Bull troll confirmed Roll Eyes

Nice avatar tho

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 11, 2015, 01:03:25 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 11, 2015, 01:02:13 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 11, 2015, 12:16:00 AM

massive move up imminent!

http://www.ibtimes.com/dark-net-drug-sales-using-bitcoins-are-booming-after-fall-silk-road-marketplace-1960833

Shocked

Define imminent.

im·mi·nent
ˈimənənt/Submit
adjective
1.
about to happen.
"they were in imminent danger of being swept away"
synonyms: impending, close (at hand), near, (fast) approaching, coming, forthcoming, on the way, in the offing, in the pipeline, on the horizon, in the air, just around the corner, coming down the pike, expected, anticipated, brewing, looming, threatening, menacing; informalin the cards
"a ceasefire was imminent"

Thanks. I'll brace myself.

Quote from: empowering on June 11, 2015, 06:15:27 AM

Patience is a virtue dontchya know

Says the guy whose monkey sold at 235.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on June 11, 2015, 06:02:20 AM

JayJuanGee

I'm working on a model for the pain threshold of btc investors. What is the point at which you sell everything, and refrain from telling anyone you know that you even flirted with such a thing? I acknowledge that either of these things could happen, but what is the price point that both do?

Kind Regards,

I've been asking myself the same thing. Lips sealed

Quote from: empowering on June 11, 2015, 08:27:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 11, 2015, 08:12:49 AM

Quote from: empowering on June 11, 2015, 06:15:27 AM

Patience is a virtue dontchya know

Says the guy whose monkey sold at 235.

I think you have me confused with someone else, I sold at 270-272 and then bought back in my stated accumulation zone 220-230 and then sold a handful (20) at around 235, only to accumulate more back down near the 220s.
I have repeated this a few times in this zone, but only with a handful...my position is locked and loaded, and I am still waiting patiently. Stops in place though, but I am protected by the fiat I have made in past few weeks... If they are gonna bring me my dooooooooooooooooooom then they had better make it shnappy. I am sick of waiting... I have almost given up hope of doooooooooooooom now, but no bother, my position now is more than satisfactory.

My play has not changed since I posted my call and trades... Just letting it play out, without a care in the world...

Patience.

(edit and besides I have my actual coins held in cs for over three years.)

Fair enough.

Quote from: Tzupy on June 11, 2015, 10:39:40 PM

Market indicators are not suggesting a large drop soon, looking at the past months, they need to deteriorate for several days before.
I am actually waiting for a little pump to start my new short, maybe tomorrow?

You know you can go short XMR now. Just saying.

Quote from: shmadz on June 12, 2015, 12:33:32 AM

Quote from: inca on June 11, 2015, 10:41:31 PM

Price would be a yawnfest if it werent for the growing leveraged long position.

Big move coming soon.

I agree,

if we define "soon" as meaning "within the next two years soon"

It's imminent. Ask Adam.

Sweet, shnappy imminence. Like biting into a juicy watermellon!

The twins changed their mind. This means moon now:

^^Are we still here? Cheesy

Quote from: chmod755 on June 13, 2015, 03:09:05 AM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on June 13, 2015, 02:57:17 AM

And it's gone? Are you even trying?

It is called imminence. Can you taste it?

Quote from: minerbit hill on June 13, 2015, 12:32:54 PM

Based on the charts it looks that BTC price is set to break $250 at some point in the near future (probably within 20-30 days)

if I were optimistic I should say someone was flashing and pulling a giant sell wall at a 'legit' exchange, then trying to buy in panic at dumper's paradise BTC-e. Could all be masquerade tho. Or totally unrelated.

This is the WO I remember Cheesy

Quote from: ElectricMucus on June 13, 2015, 08:59:26 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 13, 2015, 07:16:44 PM

Quote from: Moonsturm on June 13, 2015, 06:29:18 PM

This is slightly OT, but since nothing's happening, I figured this is a good time for a poll:
Which fandom is more cringeworthy, MLP or BTC?

I am not familiar with the MLP world. Has there ever been a case of an MLP-fiat exchange swallowing 600'000 of its clients unicorns? How many megawatts does it take to prevent a pony from being enjoyed by two fans at the same time?

They both are very easy to make fun of, but MLP isn't paticulary sophisticated in regards to humor. I suppose you are aware of furries, and if you are brave look up Chris-Chan. Uh and yes you should stop at that point, I didn't dare to look further.
For me making fun of somebodies sexuality and/or quirks isn't as entertaining as making fun of their beliefs and world view because the choice of becoming a libertarian/sovereign citizen/anacap type of advocate. Adult men being turned on by cartoon horses may be strange, pathetic, and many other things but it's neither intellectual nor political.

Quote from: SevenMacaw on June 14, 2015, 12:44:07 AM

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on June 14, 2015, 12:36:56 AM

Wow, lmao.

So funny to watch the bears try and hide.

Bears got nothing to hide.

Quote from: chmod755 on June 14, 2015, 03:25:00 AM

Quote from: medialab101 on June 14, 2015, 12:34:29 AM

What's wrong with BTC-e order book? Did they run out of coins to sell?

They are just freezing user coins it seems so people can't sell.

It's bullshit tho

Quote

Hi, I am the developer of BitDice.me and DogeDice.me. I have looked and we do not have any emails mentioning "btc-e" in our records.

Futhermore we would never claim to an exchange that a user has stole our coins unless they actually did so. Can you please email us again with your account number and/or txids? We will be happy to follow up with btc-e.

Best, Adrian

@rolling OP started the same thread here somewhere. I think it's a ruse. Roll Eyes

Edit: here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089384.0

Excluuuuuuuding bubbles!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 14, 2015, 11:47:31 AM

Quote from: Elwar on June 14, 2015, 11:36:57 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on June 14, 2015, 12:03:42 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 14, 2015, 11:25:33 AM

Nobody has any credibility in this thread. That's what makes it fun. There's no pressure.

I am so credible (in my own mind) I just shat myself.

Quote from: vrzo on June 14, 2015, 04:23:05 PM

Nice chart. Buying now at $2xx might be the best buying opportunity in next 4-5 years.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 14, 2015, 04:33:22 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 14, 2015, 04:25:51 PM

Quote from: vrzo on June 14, 2015, 04:23:05 PM

Nice chart. Buying now at $2xx might be the best buying opportunity in next 4-5 years.

I see. So pure win and kittens are just words for you? You disappoint me.

Bullish trolls are just as dangerous as the other kind. I stand by my cynical meme. Angry

Quote from: podyx on June 14, 2015, 05:54:57 PM

Quote from: podyx on June 09, 2015, 02:41:59 PM

Quote from: podyx on May 26, 2015, 09:55:09 PM

Consolidation till june 20th, after that pump to $260 and then dump to $220, after that there may be another bubble.

Classified inside sources Wink

We're getting close Cool

(this isn't any financial advise)

5-6 days...

We still have a massive overhang of hoarded coins. No way we break $250 before dumpsville.

Undecided

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 14, 2015, 06:22:37 PM

Quote from: Alley on June 14, 2015, 06:07:13 PM

Dumps are fine. It redistributes wealth.

"It redistributes wealth!"

You don't disappoint me. Cheesy

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 14, 2015, 09:41:58 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 14, 2015, 09:33:07 PM

You don't disappoint me. Cheesy

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on June 27, 2015, 01:12:33 AM

Quote from: NewLiberty on June 27, 2015, 12:50:06 AM

!
The classic pterodactyl pattern.
JOUST TIME

Boss Battle. Over or under?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 27, 2015, 01:54:14 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 27, 2015, 01:30:35 AM

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on June 27, 2015, 01:12:33 AM

Quote from: NewLiberty on June 27, 2015, 12:50:06 AM

!
The classic pterodactyl pattern.
JOUST TIME

YOU'RE BACK!!!

LET'S CELEBRATE!!!

Jalla Jalla!!!

Thank you, brother. It's good to be home! Cheesy

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 27, 2015, 02:22:03 AM

heres a good one for when we break above 260

I have so many feels right now.

Quote from: JimboToronto on June 27, 2015, 04:04:02 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still futzing along in the $240s I see, albeit with a slight upward drift.

Could be an interesting day, no coffee required to stay awake.

But I bet you are having some anyway Wink

Quote from: chopstick on June 27, 2015, 05:35:24 PM

249 OMG

OMG.....

Gentlemen?!

Quote from: gentlemand on June 28, 2015, 12:48:38 AM

Quote from: centauribit on June 28, 2015, 12:39:53 AM

The main driver for bitcoin prices seem to be Greek buyers. Joshua Scigala, co-founder of Vaultoro.com, told Reuters this week that his company has seen a 124 per cent pick up in web hits from Greek IP addresses.
http://business.financialpost.com/investing/bitcoin-is-the-real-winner-in-greece-crisis

All figures point to Greece being nowhere in BTC terms. Check it out on localbitcoins. The listings are pitifully thin compared to other countries. That 124 % increase might amount to the same number of people you could fit on the top floor of a bus.

Opa!

LOL

Quote from: Norway on June 28, 2015, 04:22:01 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 28, 2015, 04:13:49 AM

Quote from: Norway on June 27, 2015, 11:18:55 PM

I don't trust you. I know you lie about your motive. It's not academic interest.

As I have explained many times, it is not just academic interest; I feel I have also the obligation of giving public information about it (like I have been doing for 10 years about electronic voting).

BTW, two days ago one of my students asked me whether it was worth mining bitcoin with GPU cards. Luckily I knew enough to tell him to forget the idea.

It was only the second time someone asked me in person about bitcoin, since I started following it; and the previous case, too, was about GPU mining. I wonder now whether someone is trying to sell some bitcoin mining project around here...

Jorge, you are lying! It's tempting to tell your employer! You are not honest about your agenda.

Lambie thought 220 to 250 would last forever. That's a shame. Tongue

By great do you mean kind of shameless and gross?

I guess it's ok so long as you start with the face.

Quote from: empowering on June 29, 2015, 11:08:52 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 29, 2015, 10:59:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 29, 2015, 10:39:45 PM

I guess it's ok so long as you start with the face.

I'm pretty sure he's pulling his nuts out of his ass. A bitcoin company wouldn't do something like that. Often.

I do not know why, but this made me laugh my ass off.

(I am really quite drunk now)

I set 'em up, he knocks 'em down. Cheesy

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 29, 2015, 11:24:09 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 29, 2015, 11:18:02 PM

Quote from: empowering on June 29, 2015, 11:08:52 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on June 29, 2015, 10:59:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 29, 2015, 10:39:45 PM

I guess it's ok so long as you start with the face.

I'm pretty sure he's pulling his nuts out of his ass. A bitcoin company wouldn't do something like that. Often.

I do not know why, but this made me laugh my ass off.

(I am really quite drunk now)

I set 'em up, he knocks 'em down. Cheesy

Check it out. Featuring our very own Jorge Stolfi:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable

Bitcoin can currently handle up to 360,000 transactions per day given current limitations built into the technology, according to Jorge Stolfi, a computer science professor from Campinas University in Brazil, so there’s some headroom left before things bog down.

It would be possible to bring down the average power cost of each transaction by modifying the underlying Bitcoin protocol, but that’s no easy feat. The Bitcoin community is currently debating a big change that would mean the network could theoretically handle about 7.2 million transactions a day on a comparable level of electricity consumption, according to Stolfi. That would require a majority of the people mining Bitcoin to agree to the change, however.

Quote from: empowering on June 30, 2015, 12:22:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 30, 2015, 12:15:56 AM

Check it out. Featuring our very own Jorge Stolfi:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable

Bitcoin can currently handle up to 360,000 transactions per day given current limitations built into the technology, according to Jorge Stolfi, a computer science professor from Campinas University in Brazil, so there’s some headroom left before things bog down.

It would be possible to bring down the average power cost of each transaction by modifying the underlying Bitcoin protocol, but that’s no easy feat. The Bitcoin community is currently debating a big change that would mean the network could theoretically handle about 7.2 million transactions a day on a comparable level of electricity consumption, according to Stolfi. That would require a majority of the people mining Bitcoin to agree to the change, however.

pffffffffffftttttt

Jorge is stepping out on us hey.

Thought he had been a bit on the quiet side of recent.... now we know why..

SHUNNNN!!!

SHUNNNN!!!

only kidding

That might be my favourite website. Now I must fawn on him like a god Sad

Quote from: Greendragon on June 30, 2015, 12:53:39 AM

Meanwhile in Greece...
[imgbloodyhorror[/img]

This is not cool Sad

Quote from: empowering on June 30, 2015, 01:06:52 AM

Quote from: Greendragon on June 30, 2015, 12:53:39 AM

Meanwhile in Greece...

Are these actually recent images , as in from today?

No.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Greece-crisis.jpg

Quote from: empowering on June 30, 2015, 01:15:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 30, 2015, 01:14:37 AM

Quote from: empowering on June 30, 2015, 01:06:52 AM

Quote from: Greendragon on June 30, 2015, 12:53:39 AM

Meanwhile in Greece...

Are these actually recent images , as in from today?

No.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Greece-crisis.jpg

Good.

History repeats itself Undecided

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis

Quote from: tarmi on June 30, 2015, 01:32:09 AM

soon bitcoiners are going to realize that going bankrupt for a country is no big deal.

I would be worried to see zee germans going bankrupt. that never ends well.

Just don't mention the war

Quote from: Fakhoury on June 29, 2015, 05:36:28 PM

Quote from: KFR on June 29, 2015, 05:32:43 PM

Gentlemen. Cool

Yes ?

Now is critical for Bitcoin.

More like this guy:

Busy busy days for Bitcoin. Might need something stronger than coffee tomorrow.

@Jimbo And a happy Canada Day to you too, sir!

@Jimbo: Ever have "cold tea" in Chinatown at 3 in the morning?

Fun fact: it's beer served in a tea pot Wink

On-topic: anybody see any walls?

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 01, 2015, 05:30:45 AM

Oh, I see we're back over $260 again.

Just barely Undecided

Quote from: Erdogan on July 02, 2015, 01:36:04 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on July 02, 2015, 12:09:59 AM

Quote from: Fakhoury on July 02, 2015, 12:03:01 AM

Quote from: phoenix1 on July 01, 2015, 11:42:30 PM

<snip>

Don't you think if you PMed saying what you said, would be better ?

No, just stop doing it

Erm, perhaps I was exaggerating to get the message across, not same Wink

Hey what are you guys talking about here? There is no context.

Nothing. They've been doing it all day Undecided

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on July 03, 2015, 03:42:37 AM

Quote from: readysalted89 on July 02, 2015, 09:24:10 AM

The Mt Gox court case will conclude sometime and either the Bitcoins get returned or the court orders them to be sold so cash can be returned instead. I doubt it will be over by the end of July but if the court orders a crazy dump it will crash the price. I think they have some rule in Japan that you have to sell an asset and return cash.

The deadline for victims to submit their claims was ~May 25, 2015. The bankruptcy trustee Nobuaki Kobayashi now has until September 2015 to validate those claims and define the payouts.

It is very unlikely that Kobayashi will try to sell the remaining bitcoins on exchanges. Either he will return them as BTC through Kraken, or he will auction them.

I suppose that he would like to return them as BTC, to save him the headache of organizing the auction. (Or perhaps not, since he will charge extra for that work.) However, he would have to convince the bankruptcy judge to authorize that; and the precedents, if not the laws, all seem to require the conversion to JPY.

I can see also some logistic obstacles to returning things in BTC. Suppose that the spoils of MtGOX are 1 billion JPY and 200 k BTC, worth 1 + 5 = 6 G JPY in all; but the validated claims by victims add to 4 G JPY and 320 k BTC, worth 4 + 8 = 12 G JPY total. So each victim should receive 50% of his claim, and Kobayashi would have to give out 2 G JPY and 160 k BTC. He cannot force victims to take BTC in place of JPY, so he would have to auction 40 k BTC anyway to make those payouts.

If the mismatch goes the other way, things will be easier because he can (legally) force the victims to accept JPY instead of some of the BTC that they claimed. But the idiots who insist on getting refunded in BTC are going to make a big fuss anyway.

There may be also complaints by victims if the BTC price changes between the time that Kobayashi computs the payouts and the time that the victims received their BTC on Kraken. Note that a change in the BTC price affects all payouts, even those of victims who want to be paid in JPY only.

I suspect that he will regret having admitted the possibility of a refund in BTC...

I'm sorry Professor but I have to disagree. I wouldn't put anything past a guy that can inhale hot dogs like that.

Quote from: gentlemand on July 04, 2015, 02:51:18 PM

Quote from: kaykawa on July 04, 2015, 02:48:50 PM

what does means "CCFM"? i saw guys in BTC-E trollboxchat saying the same.

Choo Choo Mother Fucker.

DOOOOOOoooooooooooooooMMMMMMMMMMMM!!

(Am I doing it right?) Tongue

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on July 04, 2015, 03:45:54 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 04, 2015, 03:34:03 PM

If America elects a Trump president the world will laugh its ass off in perfect harmony.

What and electing a guy twice who never even ran a lemonade stand was not enough?
Another Bush or another Clinton?

Please.... Trump is not perfect, but he hits hard, although does not articulate his points very well, he stands by it.
Im so sick of lifelong politicians. When the US was created, it was not ment to be a carrier like it is now. It was a duty.

BTW, the world wont be laughing if the US economy tanks or the USD loses its status. Want a laugh, let that happen. Soon it will happen if course is not changed. You think Greece shock stuff up, just wait.

Quote from: JerryCurlzzz on July 05, 2015, 01:56:52 AM

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on July 05, 2015, 01:30:32 AM

Optimisms!

Boundless opportunites!

Quote from: podyx on July 05, 2015, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: d5000 on July 05, 2015, 06:24:30 PM

"The Oxi effect": $275 now.

I predict it will not go so much higher, so be careful. Some will dump. But I think that there is a great possibility for the price that $266 can hold - an historical mark.

Yup, I'm planning to pick up some around that area.

maybe a bit less. $262-264 perhaps

Good luck, Greece!

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on July 05, 2015, 07:24:13 PM

Poor NLC, her enthusiasm seems somewhat diminished after a $50 rise in a month. Undecided

Not even the will to make new pics... Cry

It's hard work making something this pretty look like a chump...

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on July 05, 2015, 06:46:11 PM

Nice to see our little coin reacting (or being made to appear to react) to macroeconomic events. A nice change from a couple years ago when we all react to mtgox's server's net connection. Cheesy

fixed...

Quote from: Alley on July 05, 2015, 10:28:59 PM

What do those pictures mean? Do you speak English?

"Pepper ur Angus"

I think it's Latin.

Quote from: Arriemoller on July 06, 2015, 02:14:58 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/03/us-eurozone-greece-bitcoin-idUSKCN0PD1B420150703?

The Greeks are buying bitcoins to protect themselves from a monetary crash according to Reuters.

This is the concluding paragragh. It's about the one BTM in the country.

Quote

But with Greeks having to form long queues at bank ATMs just to receive a meager 60 euros' cash a day, this machine has seen no customers since talks with creditors broke down on Saturday.

"Before Saturday, there was some very limited interest, mostly customers asking what it does and how it works," said Maria Varila, an employee in the shop. "Since Saturday, however, when all hell broke loose, there has literally been zero interest."

Quote from: rolling on July 06, 2015, 11:16:23 PM

Quote from: cyclotronmajesty on July 06, 2015, 11:12:17 PM

Something has got to be done about BTC-e

Yeah, it has always been a drag on rapid price increases.

I just hope this doesn't end up another Cypress pump Undecided

Back to $267. What happened to ShroomsKit??

Quote from: aztecminer on July 07, 2015, 12:28:43 AM

Quote from: ejinte on July 07, 2015, 12:19:07 AM

It still wouldn't surprise me if the idiot dumpers would take us right back to 220.
I can totally see it happen.

when it happens will it break your moral ?? what will be your response ??

Quote from: abercrombie on July 07, 2015, 02:02:42 AM

Quote from: ejinte on July 07, 2015, 01:40:43 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on July 07, 2015, 01:02:06 AM

What happens if Greek banks don't reopen tomorrow? I'm giving them only a 15% chance of opening.

Those banks can't handle even one full day of withdrawals. depositor's haircuts?

What happens after banks are closed for two weeks? Civil unrest? riots?

"OXI" on the referendum is not the end of the story. It's just getting started.

Greek banks will be closed tomorrow.

And in the mean time idiot dumpers keeps dumping.

Hello idiot dumpers buying back above.

Can you believe there are still people dumping?

Have to admit, I do miss that avatar along with the owner's ramblings...

These traders just can't bear the thought that their coins are worth more money. Just keep dumping you idiots!!

First the Cypress pump now the Grease pump. Is anyone else starting to feel as though Bitcoin is being manipulated to seem like it's responding to current events? We all know the Greeks weren't actually buying. Right?

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 07, 2015, 10:24:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 07, 2015, 10:20:10 PM

First the Cypress pump now the Grease pump. Is anyone else starting to feel as though Bitcoin is being manipulated to seem like its responding to current events? We all know the Greeks weren't actually buying. Right?

What exactly are you getting at then? Who, why would "they" deceive this way?

You know. Rich people. Because they can?

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 07, 2015, 11:00:00 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 07, 2015, 10:26:16 PM

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 07, 2015, 10:24:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 07, 2015, 10:20:10 PM

First the Cypress pump now the Grease pump. Is anyone else starting to feel as though Bitcoin is being manipulated to seem like its responding to current events? We all know the Greeks weren't actually buying. Right?

What exactly are you getting at then? Who, why would "they" deceive this way?

You know. Rich people. Because they can?

C'mon, most of us are rich around here.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Brother, you just blew my hair back. Lips sealed

Quote from: Fatman3001 on July 07, 2015, 11:12:14 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 07, 2015, 11:00:00 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 07, 2015, 10:26:16 PM

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on July 07, 2015, 10:24:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 07, 2015, 10:20:10 PM

First the Cypress pump now the Grease pump. Is anyone else starting to feel as though Bitcoin is being manipulated to seem like its responding to current events? We all know the Greeks weren't actually buying. Right?

What exactly are you getting at then? Who, why would "they" deceive this way?

You know. Rich people. Because they can?

C'mon, most of us are rich around here.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

I'm not. I think you should all donate to me.

Donate to Save Fatman from Becoming Slenderman!

Call 555-FATUSELESSBASTARDNEEDSFOOD Now!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on July 08, 2015, 12:07:51 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 07, 2015, 11:46:02 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on July 07, 2015, 11:33:38 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 07, 2015, 11:26:58 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on July 07, 2015, 11:12:14 PM

Call 555-FATUSELESSBASTARDNEEDSFOOD Now!

Food? You're begging for food?

You don't want to be smoking what the panhandlers of Toronto call "food".

It'll not only turn you into Slenderman, but Sunkeneyesman and Jonesingman too.

Cheesy

Canadians will smoke anything. I've seen your flag.

Some of us are fussier than others (and more inclined to spending our money wisely).

https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/adrian1.jpg?w=310&h=363

This goes a long way to explain how your celebrities are so bland. But...

Is K.D. Lang really Justin Biebers father?

Who decided that Dan Akroyd is a comedian? I've seen he's in a lot of comedies, but he's never funny. Never!

How is it that I have seen all of Kevin Sorbos work? Clearly, there is no reason I should have.

Quote from: hdbuck on July 08, 2015, 07:15:35 AM

Quote from: macsga on July 08, 2015, 07:12:18 AM

IMF states today, that a Grexit could seriously affect USofA economy. Nevertheless, it seems China stock market signals something far more significant than a "Grexit". Everything's painted red over there. I bet this could get worse before it can get any better, which might signal the next rally up for BTC. Over 300 until Sunday anyone? Roll Eyes

one sure thing is that bitcoin wont surge until some big macro event, ie. grexit, china crash, usofa shut down etc...

i really hope it all unfolds this summer, rather than in september or later..

edit: my money is on no deal by sunday between greece and UE, hence probably a 10-20$ surge in bitcoin. but then again, those negociations seems they would never end.

Bitcoin doesn't move on news, it moves on reasons. Hoping for bad news is just tasteless

Edit: I think we're moving.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on July 10, 2015, 10:10:38 PM

The whales of today are so boring. For the princely sum of three million USD they have the opportunity to punch a big gaping hole in $300, but nooo. That would be too much fun.

pussies

Screw this! I'm going to bed.

Just in case:

Quote from: Norway on July 10, 2015, 06:34:59 PM

Have your 300-gifs ready...

Quote from: ssmc2 on July 10, 2015, 10:56:13 PM

Let me guess Tzupy, this is all extremely bearish, amirite? Roll Eyes

This is extremely Sparta.

Quality TA gentlemen^^

Secret message: my Mother has found your Mars candy bars.

Quote from: Fiat_Hodler on July 11, 2015, 11:47:40 AM

wtf happened on the chinese exchanges? $350+???

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Quote from: aztecminer on July 11, 2015, 03:22:51 PM

i think my days of supporting bitcoin could very well be coming to an end. i have a tendency to turn when i feel wronged. a cashless society is not really a free society.

Bitcoin is like digital cash. Not sure why you suddenly feel it's not right, did someone hack your wallet or something? In any case paper cash is coming to an end in the near future, and I don't see a better alternative than decentralized crypto. Or would you prefer digital FEDcoins?

no my wallet is safe.. most of my coins are in cold storage. that a cashless society is not freedom is one of my arguments. i have a couple other that make the case even stronger. i have been wronged multiple times and it is going to cause me to turn and argue against this technology. i am like everyone else here doing the same thing you all are doing, except i am being wronged. i always say friends is better than enemies, but if your going to wrong me for no reasons then i am going to turn against this technology because of it...

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Quote from: ssmc2 on July 12, 2015, 03:43:20 AM

What's up with Stamp?

IDK, but I have a message for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfcDvOzU6pQ

Quote from: BlackSpidy on July 12, 2015, 03:51:28 AM

$300 across all ^{^important} exchanges! Yeah!

Sorry, BTC-e

Never underestimate the power of swedish pop music

Quote from: criptix on July 12, 2015, 03:57:12 AM

Exponential Huh

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Quote from: criptix on July 12, 2015, 03:57:12 AM

Exponential Huh

No, logarithmic!

Quote from: BlackSpidy on July 12, 2015, 04:15:20 AM

Dumb math jokes aside, after this weekend pump (will we see $320 before monday?) I think we're going to cool down during the week, unless something big happens.

Anybody have a magic 8-ball gif handy?

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Quote from: BlackSpidy on July 12, 2015, 04:15:20 AM

Dumb math jokes aside, after this weekend pump (will we see $320 before monday?) I think we're going to cool down during the week, unless something big happens.

Anybody have a magic 8-ball gif handy?

Quote from: mortified on July 12, 2015, 04:58:00 AM

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Get Ready!

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Quote from: TerraMaster on July 12, 2015, 12:21:37 PM

lol, I am kicking my own ass right now for selling 1 BTC Friday at 287.00 Cry

but I owed the household money for electric from mining... for the last few months... was under pressure from my better half... lol oh well what's 23.00 bucks anyways these days.....

I think this could be the start of a rapid climb... But I am not writing off a last minute deal with Greece just yet?

I think Greece will probably agree a last minute deal but this is bigger than Greece. Bitcoin will succeed with or without a Grexit. Bear market is over & we begin a slow climb up ahead of next summers halving.

Any Greek deal is just a postponement. Greece is bankrupt.

NO, THIS IS PATRICK1!

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 12, 2015, 02:54:26 PM

Quote from: inca on July 12, 2015, 02:03:10 PM

Wonderful to be on holiday with bitcoin entering orbit..

I hope this run has a bit more steam. Raising my glass to the bitcoin bulls who held strong and bought through the dark times

Haven't sold a coin in over 2 years. Bought the dips all the way down and back up again, with my biggest purchase mid-January. Waiting for a buyable dip since June 1 and still waiting.

Never once lost faith or ever doubted that Bitcoin would soar again, but I'm still waiting for $700 before getting too excited.

We bulls and "Bitcoin cultists" took a lot of flak along the way but it must be clear to even the thickest-headed beartards that their precious little bear run is over. Vindication is sweet.

Cheers bro and enjoy your vacation.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 12, 2015, 07:14:12 PM

Bears waiting for sub 300. Again.

Will it blend?

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 13, 2015, 12:17:23 PM

Another extra-early, farmers' hours good morning Bitcoinland.

Got up to answer the call of nature, gassed up the generator in anticipation of a Monday morning dip and see it already happened.

Go figure. First buyable dip in a month and a half and I'm stuck out in a cabin in the middle of the bush and cant take advantage of the buying opportunity.

It crashed all the way down to where we were the day before yesterday. It must be the end of Bitcoin. Double digits soon. Roll Eyes

Now I've got a quandary: kill the generator and go back to bed, or grind some beans?

At this point I think the beans are winning. Mmmm, coffee.

Quote from: tonyq on July 14, 2015, 12:35:03 PM

Hold tight....we're on our way back up again.

By 'up' do you mean 'down'?

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Quote from: tonyq on July 14, 2015, 12:35:03 PM

Hold tight....we're on our way back up again.

By 'up' do you mean 'down'?

He did! Such speculations. Shame! Tonyq. Shame. Tongue

Quote from: ghandi on July 16, 2015, 08:46:20 AM

Doom! Party is over! Grin

Quote from: White sugar on July 18, 2015, 10:48:46 AM

Instant crash in price, why?

Anything from Greece, or from the chinese? Or something else?

Or just a micro mr102?

Just a big dump. Good morning Undecided

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on July 17, 2015, 07:18:34 PM

After smashing into and through that little ledge so many times, Wile E. is bound to erode the geological integrity of the obstacle, one of these years...

Let's just hope his credit account with ~~okcoin~~ ACME Co doesn't get called.

Fun fact: The skull is made up of 22 bones. The 8 bones that enclose and protect your brain from geological obstacles is called the neurocranium.

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 18, 2015, 03:34:38 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still scrapping over $280 I see. As sideways as it gets.

The last few weekends have seen movements. Will this one be dead flat?

I think the market is still trying to decipher this cryptic message from BTC-e:

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on July 18, 2015, 03:41:10 PM

For anybody interested, here is the official statement from BTC-E owners regarding this and other similar incidents in the past that had losses of customer funds as an unfortunate consequence.

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/ExpletiveDeficit1.jpg

Quote from: BlackSpidy on July 20, 2015, 02:40:12 AM

Wow, I just noticed the BTC-e dump. Wow, I'm really surprised that it didnt have a larger effect on the price (I have o idea how many Bitcoin were dumped). I really wish I could have gotten some BTC (or fraction of) for $150. Really, I'm optimistic. I hope we're not in for another week of boredom.

About 5000 coins I think.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1127306.msg11916788#msg11916788

Quote from: mrkavasaki on July 20, 2015, 10:44:30 PM

soon he will selling alien technology to us and he will become the richest man in the world Grin

so maybe his 100million investment could be very profitable in some years Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Torque on July 21, 2015, 01:36:51 AM

So for it to even get to $32k/btc, millions of people have to happily be buying at that price, yes? So why would they? Why would we all be happily buying more at that price?

Supply versus demand. The supply of bitcoins is limited. The demand will grow.

Quote from: Torque on July 21, 2015, 01:36:51 AM

...It's the equivalent of saying that Gold is cheap at $1100/ounce, since it will be at $30k/ounce...

For years gold was $35/oz. It could certainly go a lot higher than $1100.

Some people just don't get it, will never get it.

Hey, you're talking to a bitcoin bull here. I'm still in. But going on 2 years of nothing and I'm still seeing, well, nothing going on. Seriously. Adoption ground to a halt. People have lost interest, and sold at a loss. No major retailer announcement since early 2014. It's getting a little ridiculous at this point.

I guess if patience was easy it would be called my ex-wife.

Grin

?

40 days and 40 nights among the subreddits. And I'm back. So anything new? Something something about a larger spoon? What are you fellas on about now?

Hey: 230. That's something...

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 03, 2015, 01:34:04 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 03, 2015, 01:29:07 AM

40 days and 40 nights among the subreddits. And I'm back. So anything new? Something something about a larger spoon? What are you fellas on about now?

Hey: 230. That's something...

What happened to you... this time?

I done wrong, Fatman. I trolled and evaded and all sorts of ridiculous nonsense. I'm a guilty man Embarrassed

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 03, 2015, 01:47:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 03, 2015, 01:29:07 AM

40 days and 40 nights among the subreddits. And I'm back. So anything new? Something something about a larger spoon? What are you fellas on about now?

Hey: 230. That's something...

Cripplecoiners vs CIA Blacklisters

Much hand wringing.

Price like the topography of Kansas.
A portly asian man repeatedly imploring us to notice his cocktail weenie.

Oh. The deep philosophical divide regarding the governance of an open source protocol. That's been months of fun, that debate.

Glad to be home Cheesy

^How do I upvote this?

I think it will take me a while to readjust Undecided

Quote from: ohwell... on September 03, 2015, 10:33:17 PM

Anybody ever tell you about the demon baby that lives inside you?

Control your demon baby!

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Can't talk now..did we just go up a buck?

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Quote from: inca on September 05, 2015, 10:46:18 AM

Four chartbuddies in a row..

does this mean Bitcoin is dead? Wink

hello no!

almost the same price for 8months!

does this mean we have a stable price now? a long time goal from the beginning. no "too daa moon" anymore? nice!

Wink

so i should not buy because no "too daa moon" will be expected.

Get some coins, buy a low cal ecologically grown donut.

We're living in the future, baby!!!

Yummy. Wash that down with some warm Soylent and call it dinner!

Quote from: BitofaN1 on September 05, 2015, 04:29:41 PM

This must be the fakest pump i've seen yet.

The show must go on...

Quote from: Monopoly on September 05, 2015, 10:51:28 PM

The last force to climb ...... No power to go upper than now ...... are you ready ?

Is that Google translate's way of saying Moon Huh

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 06, 2015, 01:35:56 AM

Today I discovered that I had been working with a misunderstanding of the “no fees” policy of Circle.

For some reason, I had thought that there was a buy sell spread; however, recently, I had been considered receiving regular approximately monthly payments in Bitcoin; however, I considered that the regular monthly receipt of Bitcoin was going to likely exceed my ability to spend those bitcoin during that month. Accordingly, I realized that if I were to end up receiving the BTC on a regular monthly basis, then I was going to have to cash out btc into dollars on a regular monthly basis.

Therefore, I studied more closely into Circle’s sell rate, and I that point, I had an ah ha moment. It appears that Circle is using the same rate to buy or to sell BTC.

Therefore, there is effectively NO fee on either end (even though their rate seems to be about consistently about 1% higher than the Stamp trading rate). Furthermore, it also appears that currently I have a $5,000 weekly sell limit on Circle, which is practically unlimited in terms of my anticipated quantity of need to cash out any BTC in the near future. WOW!!!!!!

Accordingly, I have concluded that on my end, if i were to receive any regular monthly Bitcoin payment(s) then at the point of receipt of each payment, I would decide whether I wanted to cash out through Circle immediately into my bank account (all or part) or to hold those BTC until a later time.

I'm glad that I was able to clarify this Circle fees matter (at least for my own understanding) because potentially working with BTC on a regular basis (up to $5,000 per week through Circle) appears to be much better than I had originally thought.

Why does everyone sound like a commercial this weekend? JJG this is NOT your usual style at all.

Quote from: Tzupy on September 06, 2015, 11:42:39 AM

Last 44k BTC will be auctioned by the end of 2015:
http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-bitcoin-auction-2015/

Breaking news! From 2 days ago! From Coindesk!

Roll Eyes

Visual aids. Who knew Huh

Still seems odd to me.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 07, 2015, 12:47:34 AM

And how does 2.7 tx per second factor in ^.

But he did the maths! The Kool-aid graph...

~~Still above 240.~~ That's something...

PS. Nice analysis from Jstofl here.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on September 07, 2015, 10:02:23 AM

Galvin has left the building

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 07, 2015, 03:30:55 PM

Galvin has left the building

He just left r/Bitcoin. This does not mean he is leaving Bitcoin.So let's keep a sense of proportion.

I sold my sense of proportion during the Grexit pump. Undecided

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on September 07, 2015, 05:36:16 PM

Bitcoin will never be able to replace fiat even if it scales up 100X. or 1000X.

Right, so make your damned coffee by yourself and keep your crypto for serious affairs, like buying weed.

And what happens if more people than the frequent flyers of a small oil rich nation decide they like using it one day? Something something fees market?

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Quote from: hdbuck on September 11, 2015, 10:23:27 PM

Ain't gravity a shame Undecided

Not as effective without jumping ponies. But the subtle lack of suprise porn is nice. I'd say this thread is finally SFW again. FWIW Tongue

Edit: I guess I asked for it. Somehow.. Angry

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 11, 2015, 10:22:04 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on September 11, 2015, 09:52:50 PM

Many consumers have exclaimed they will leave Bitcoin to go to an altcoin which suits their "needs" if they don't get their way in Bitcoin being perverted into a system to compete with Visa. What they don't realize is the consequences they will face if they choose this option.

full article: http://qntra.net/2015/09/consumers-begin-revolting-bitcoin-is-not-visa/

And what are the consequences?

read much?

Quote from: hdbuck on September 11, 2015, 09:52:50 PM

…before the end of 2015 there's about a thousand to a million different Bitcoin forks, each with its ten million-ish monetary base worth about a dollar, on global average.

The size of the inter-Bitcoins market, the complexity and confusion ensuing makes pretty much everything unmanageable for the "ordinary person".

derp

Did he actually just predict altcoins? Shocked

Any substantive discussion on scaling will have to wait until the Hong Kong portion of the show. https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/642397611178217472

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 12, 2015, 04:40:33 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 12, 2015, 04:09:11 AM

Any substantive discussion on scaling will have to wait until the Hong Kong portion of the show. https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/642397611178217472

there no need for a conference i've solved the scaling problem already.

proof:

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Quote from: brg444 on September 11, 2015, 07:18:09 PM

What would we do without your genius Huh

Scrap this weekend's Scaling Bitcoin conference you solved it all for us!!

your welcome.

Theymos solved it before you did! https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3kl09r/pastebin_by_theymos_possible_method_of_compromise/

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 12, 2015, 05:21:45 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 12, 2015, 05:06:54 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 12, 2015, 04:40:33 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 12, 2015, 04:09:11 AM

Any substantive discussion on scaling will have to wait until the Hong Kong portion of the show. https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/642397611178217472

there no need for a conference i've solved the scaling problem already.

proof:

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 11, 2015, 07:56:00 PM

Quote from: brg444 on September 11, 2015, 07:18:09 PM

What would we do without your genius Huh

Scrap this weekend's Scaling Bitcoin conference you solved it all for us!!

your welcome.

Theymos solved it before you did! https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3kl09r/pastebin_by_theymos_possible_method_of_compromise/

Wholly shit. He confirms it with a defense? [cheesy redaction]

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 12, 2015, 08:22:29 PM

Quote from: macsga on September 12, 2015, 08:10:05 PM

PS: I like your trolling. I like to do it myself sometimes Tongue

macsga is lambie

BURN THE TROLL!!!

Your mastery of pattern recognition has finally paid off! Somebody get on the red phone. The List is an unparalleled demonstration of pure lulzy narcissism. Mind blown.

Demurrage is boring tho. In fact economics is a total snooze fest. Somebody break something

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 13, 2015, 07:20:44 PM

I'm sorry for lashing out, let me just put it this way: I WANT THE FUTURE TODAY!!! I WANNA BUY A BOAT!!!!

- puny pansie boat -

I'm buying this one Wink

-money boat-

Fork this, Gavin!

Thank you, Gentlemen.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 07, 2015, 07:17:24 PM

He be chillin. Waiting to short from $3500.

Ah, a man of leisure. A day on the water is a day well spent. Bulls of 2014 can do it too.

~ Signal crackles with analog distortion. ~

Today, intrepid young capitalists discuss the merits of depreciating assets, boats and bitcoin... Here's Tom with the weather...

Back in your day we still had water Embarrassed

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 13, 2015, 07:56:40 PM

Doubt it, but Adam said 32k.

I say 10% and 570k Wink

Why we can't have nice things.

Gavin is back

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so if I write code that makes 8MB blocks propagate as fast as 0.2MB blocks you'll support increasing the cap?

Quote from: JimboToronto on September 14, 2015, 07:50:03 PM

Good afternoon Bitcoinland. Been away for while but see things haven't changed much.

Down maybe $10 since I last looked and most of that seems to have happened yesterday.

Ho hum.

Too much baseball? Too little watching Bitcoin on the internet? That $10 could be your fault Angry

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Quote from: adamstgBit on September 15, 2015, 01:50:50 AM

Let's not pile in all at once now...

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 15, 2015, 01:40:25 AM

Oh it's open alright, but there's something gently bobbing on the surface... cleaning is scheduled for 2016.

Is it a flower?

a tulip

Imma swim for it Shocked

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on September 15, 2015, 10:07:27 PM

Nothing is happening... Lips sealed

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 16, 2015, 11:32:33 AM

@BMB that pretty much sums it up

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 17, 2015, 01:58:03 AM

BitPay's CFO got phished for 5000 btc in Dec of 14. Oops.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2015/09/16/atlantas-bitpay-got-hacked-for-1-8-million-in.html

I remember when I first got Phished. I was such a hippie Angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bakWKHj051I

Quote from: Moria843 on September 17, 2015, 12:23:03 PM

IBM Adapts Bitcoin Technology for Smart Contracts

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-adapts-bitcoin-technology-for-smart-contracts-1442423444

Articles like this used to move the needle. Why don't they anymore?

Because 'Bitcoin technology' is code for 'private blockchain'.

Quote from: Elwar on September 17, 2015, 12:29:49 PM

Quote from: Moria843 on September 17, 2015, 12:23:03 PM

IBM Adapts Bitcoin Technology for Smart Contracts

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-adapts-bitcoin-technology-for-smart-contracts-1442423444

Articles like this used to move the needle. Why don't they anymore?

We all know that "Bitcoin technology" just means they created an alt.

I beat you by 30 seconds Tongue

Quote from: Feri22 on September 18, 2015, 07:52:41 PM

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Quote from: nioc on September 18, 2015, 03:52:31 PM

Bitcoin has stabilized permanently.

Crashing from $1200 to $10 is impossible indiscriminately ......... so Btc needs some times to rest For finishing it's mission ..........

What is the mission?

Should you choose to accept it:

^This really brings me back Cheesy

They call it house wine for a reason.

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Quote from: cbeast on September 19, 2015, 04:06:19 PM

It looks like this forum is dead. Reddit is also dead. Where did everyone go?

If they need to get back I still have a dinghy they can borrow.

Hello there,

Gavin Andresen has just published a new article: Big-O scaling

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At the Montreal Scaling Bitcoin conference, I had a chance to talk to a couple of those people and ask them what the heck they’re talking about. Turns out they’re talking about a few different things.

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Quote from: cbeast on September 19, 2015, 04:06:19 PM

It looks like this forum is dead. Reddit is also dead. Where did everyone go?

To a place where you gormless Gavinistas are not welcome and cannot follow us... Cool

O hai again!

Big blocks and Tor

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I think I first heard this objection to a larger maximum block size from Peter Todd, Chief Scientist of ViaCoin

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 19, 2015, 09:56:01 PM

Quote from: cbeast on September 19, 2015, 04:06:19 PM

It looks like this forum is dead. Reddit is also dead. Where did everyone go?

To a place where you gormless Gavinistas are not welcome and cannot follow us... Cool

So... kill the only thread in this section worth reading, declare victory, and then scoot over to MP's chatroom to discuss bitcoin "assets" and kiss his ass. Sweet, sweet success.

Theymos made a very public decision to cull the herd here. I don't blame anyone for having moved on. But MP is less about greener pastures than scortched earth. I don't see the appeal.

Quote from: Norway on September 20, 2015, 07:52:20 PM

Yea if we're lost
Then we are lost together

Spending bitcoin to overpay your mortgage or buy amazon credit? Bullish!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln3sp/it_was_me/

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 21, 2015, 12:37:20 PM

Quote from: abercrombie on September 21, 2015, 12:31:29 PM

is crypto done??

Perhaps. Or someone just hit the snooze.

Are we still here? Undecided

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 21, 2015, 12:37:20 PM

Quote from: abercrombie on September 21, 2015, 12:31:29 PM

is crypto done??

Perhaps. Or someone just hit the snooze.

Are we still here? Undecided

The concept of existence is impossible. Because in order to be we have to transgress the boundaries of not being. For matter, space and time, this is called "The Big Bang", however the further we move towards the beginning of inflation the closer we get to the point of impossibility. We would like to think that that is not the case. That our rapid and unrelenting expansion of our knowledge of the universe will somehow break through this barrier, but it is an illusion. So what is this experience of being we all share then? It is a play played out on the back of The Great Turtle who constitutes the physical boundaries of this imagined world. Such a concept is of course laughable. But since there is no such thing as being, it is without consequence.

Or were you just thinking about this forum?

“POZZO:
I am blind.
(Silence.)
ESTRAGON:
Perhaps he can see into the future.”
― Samuel Beckett, Waiting for Godot

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It's quite simple: it enables true micropayments on the Bitcoin blockchain by making access to mining ubiquitous.

It's amazing how people with 1 year activity on this forum don't have a clue about bitcoin

How the hell is that piece of garbage enabling micropayments?

Why so butthurt?

Tell me genius, how do you send a 2 satoshi transaction on chain right now?

Tell me genius , how will you send a 2 satoshi transaction with that device?

Is that device not following the bitcoin protocol rules?

That device is a miner tied to a non negligible mining pool.

Using some payment channel magic and their microtransactions server your 2 satoshi transaction will be aggregated with a bunch of others and settled into the blockchain as they mine blocks.

4% is negligible.

magic....? like lambchop's unicorns?
and their microtransacations servers that is like lambchop's ... hmmm tough one... brain? aka totally missing?

At the very reasonabe retail price of $400 this device is a steal and everybody here knows it.

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Quote from: gotmilk_ on September 21, 2015, 08:11:52 PM

https://21.co/

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/09/21/21-inc-releases-first-product-a-bitcoin-computer/

Cool

A wobbly Raspberry Pi?

Can someone explain to me why this isn't the dead end I think it is?

I don't understand it either.

Raspberri pi: $38
Nano USB Miner: $10
64GB SD card: $20

21 microcomputer: $400???

For everything else, there's Mastercard_TM

Is this company just an elaborate troll? Srs question Undecided

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It’s a devkit for future devices which would have native Bitcoin support (wallets & coin-generation) for identification (private keys), and micro-transactions.

Well whatever the hell it does, good luck to 'em.

Quote from: brg444 on September 23, 2015, 12:06:12 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on September 22, 2015, 11:01:34 PM

21 inc are either geniuses so far ahead of the curve we can't even see it, or goats enjoying splurging a fuck ton of money on convoluted junk. I very much look forward to finding out which they are and hopefully we'll know soon.

I vote geniuses!
https://elux.svbtle.com/the-21-inc-computer-is-the-new-altair-8800

What was the second option again..?

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 09:15:09 AM

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Quote from: Norway on September 22, 2015, 09:06:51 PM

Quote from: Andre# on September 22, 2015, 08:45:05 PM

Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... Cheesy

I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret.

Based on the story of 21 Inc so far my guess is your line...

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To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled....

...is the reality of the situation. I think these guys are riding a bitcoin VC feeding frenzy but lack clear strategy or understanding.

If you haven't already heard this podcast from 13th Sep, have a listen to Chris Derose and Joshua Unseth's take on what 21 Inc are doing; I think it's very very funny. Go to time 15:05 in episode #16 of the Counterparty weekly update for a hilarious take on the whole thing.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/xcp-weekly-update-16-joel-and-thomas-from-swarm

Nice find! That pretty much sums it up.

Perhaps there is some legitimacy to incorporating a HW wallet in chipsets, as it seems some are suggesting they're doing, but a miner is, as we heard, a bad idea for a number of reasons.

They do a pretty good job at the site dancing around the fact that the thing won´t really mine anything but a steady stream of pocket lint. Which would be useful for micropayments they say though. But the best thing about it would be for buying and selling stuff for bitcoins. I doubt that you pay 400 dollars for a box to do that.

At least their last idea made toast...

Quote from: RenegadeMan on September 23, 2015, 12:12:15 PM

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Quote from: phoenix1 on September 24, 2015, 12:06:26 AM

Does anyone actually use the 3D presentation of these chart images? I just tried putting some red/green glasses on and what I saw was fairly uninspiring. Seeing them in 3D certainly doesn't make them suddenly mean a whole lot more or convey more comparison data. I think it's a gimmick.

Most things are Undecided

Quote from: aztecminer on September 23, 2015, 08:03:35 PM

Quote from: Feri22 on September 23, 2015, 07:46:26 PM

Bitcoin is so stable that even the most stable fiat currency looks like crazy investment against BTC right now...It is so boring though...

227 was too close for bitfinex comfort, therefore they raised to 230. now we are all waiting.

Seems you are on to something there ... the moment $230 looked under threat, another 3-4kBTC were added to the book
BFX Plunge Protection Team ...
Didn't end well for BoE vs Soros ... lets see if BFX can do any better ...

Welcome back

Quote from: phoenix1 on September 24, 2015, 01:06:44 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 24, 2015, 01:00:58 AM

Welcome back

Thanks

Did I miss anything ? Cheesy

Looks like 21 has put the toaster idea on hold. So no toast even Undecided

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 24, 2015, 01:00:58 AM

Welcome back

Thanks

Did I miss anything ? Cheesy

Looks like 21 has put the toaster idea on hold. So no toast even Undecided

Toasters can still be useful if you have the vision ...

Just imagine it ... the Internet of Toasters ... sending out an SOS when you run out of paper. No more falling on your face with your trousers round your ankles, trying to find anything wipe-worthy. Toaster sends out an SOS, drone is there in minutes with more Andrex. Hopefully it can pick the lock on your front door ...

What is your toaster doing in the bathroom?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 24, 2015, 10:21:22 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 24, 2015, 10:15:22 PM

bitcoin didnt like what she had to say

That seems to be the case, with the current dumping that is taking place.

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 25, 2015, 12:37:55 AM

Quote from: Patel on September 25, 2015, 12:32:13 AM

Rumor is Yellen had a stroke during the speech

i've pinpointed the stroke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2UAYgIXG8&feature=youtu.be&t=1m25s
oh and this
https://youtu.be/xJ2UAYgIXG8?t=2m38s

That's actually really disturbing.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on September 25, 2015, 01:02:48 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 25, 2015, 01:22:22 AM

That's actually really disturbing.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 25, 2015, 01:06:46 AM

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 26, 2015, 01:40:21 PM

That's actually really disturbing.

Are you a bot, BMB?

HELLO FELLOW HUMAN. HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING BEING A CARBON-BASED BIPEDAL LIFEFORM? I AM HAPPY

Meh. It could have been worse:

#Fingeringthenumbers, #Numberingthefingers, #thePeoplesCar, #Godwinslaw

@BMB

Quote from: Denker on September 26, 2015, 12:35:53 PM

A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

Where the fuck is that Godwin fella you're talking about? I'd like to ask him a couple of questions.

That is actually really disturbing Wink

Quote from: Denker on September 26, 2015, 02:56:39 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 26, 2015, 01:40:21 PM

@BMB

Quote from: Denker on September 26, 2015, 12:35:53 PM

A nice distraction to the other mess we are facing by all this "refugees" coming in thanks to our silly chancelor.

Where the fuck is that Godwin fella you're talking about? I'd like to ask him a couple of questions.

Ridiculous. Not even close to that.

He was just humouring my dumb joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

Quote from: r0ach on September 27, 2015, 01:15:59 AM

Quote from: abercrombie on September 26, 2015, 11:23:44 PM

are we rich yet?? Huh

The biggest margin call in Poloniex history happens soon, then afterwards maybe:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12531970#msg12531970

100 BTC on Polo is like a fart on the holodeck. Discuss.

Quote from: ElectricMucus on September 28, 2015, 12:49:21 AM

Quote from: chmod755 on September 27, 2015, 10:57:48 PM

Someone just sold 100+ BTC on a market with low liquidity. Here's the chart.

Why would someone do this? It temporarily brought down the price by 33%.

Somebody wants to top off their paypal account and doesn't give a shit about slippage because gains are still astronomical for some people.

In case you don't know selling Bitcoins for Linden Dollars and then buying Dollars is the one true way of doing that, unless you are willing to risk total loss by some shady exchange service. Ironically the only way to get money on a Bitcoin exchange onto a paypal account without that or slippage is to buy something with bitpay, return it and get a refund, but that only works for small amounts, since the merchant won't willingly participate in this.

Are there really that many people still desperate to get their value out of Bitcoin? I thought maybe naively that that stage was behind us...

Impossible overhang of hoarded coins in every direction all trying to squeeze through the head of the same cashing-out pin. Is there a gif for this?

Quote from: Norway on September 28, 2015, 02:25:23 AM

Too the blood moon!

Quote from: kingscrown on September 28, 2015, 03:04:37 AM

Total time logged in: 19 days, 13 hours and 30 minutes.

Wrong thread bro Grin

Quote from: BldSwtTrs on September 28, 2015, 10:40:56 PM

Quote from: SmoothCurves on September 28, 2015, 10:38:36 PM

Quote from: Peter R on September 28, 2015, 10:15:47 PM

Quote from: Fakhoury on September 28, 2015, 10:04:02 PM

So in 10 years from now, you expect BTC to reach only $10,000, Peter ?

I actually think it will be significantly higher but I'm embarrassed to write what I really think.

However, like everyone else, I don't have any special insight that makes my guess more right than the next guy's. I could be totally wrong and most certainly am at least partially wrong. I think good advice is to imagine losing all the money you have in bitcoin: if that would cause you some pain, well, that's OK; if that would cause you to lose your home, wife or business, then you're probably investing too much.

You might be embarrassed but i'm not. 10 years from would be 2025 (two halving from now). I expect the price to be between 300,000 - 1.2M USD

Three halving from now.

The bulltrolling is strong today. We must be headed back down.

Just kidding.

No but seriously.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 28, 2015, 11:05:06 PM

Quote from: BldSwtTrs on September 28, 2015, 10:40:56 PM

Quote from: SmoothCurves on September 28, 2015, 10:38:36 PM

Quote from: Peter R on September 28, 2015, 10:15:47 PM

Quote from: Fakhoury on September 28, 2015, 10:04:02 PM

So in 10 years from now, you expect BTC to reach only $10,000, Peter ?

I actually think it will be significantly higher but I'm embarrassed to write what I really think.

However, like everyone else, I don't have any special insight that makes my guess more right than the next guy's. I could be totally wrong and most certainly am at least partially wrong. I think good advice is to imagine losing all the money you have in bitcoin: if that would cause you some pain, well, that's OK; if that would cause you to lose your home, wife or business, then you're probably investing too much.

You might be embarrassed but i'm not. 10 years from would be 2025 (two halving from now). I expect the price to be between 300,000 - 1.2M USD

Three halving from now.

The bulltrolling is strong today. We must be headed back down.

Just kidding.

No but seriously.

I'm a financial wizard Tongue

Quote from: ChartBuddy on September 30, 2015, 02:02:35 AM

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 01, 2015, 10:26:24 PM

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on October 01, 2015, 10:21:35 PM

Why is everyone so excited on the forum?

Bull run etc....blah blah

Still same old 230-240.

Have I missed something?

Quote from: 600watt on October 01, 2015, 07:28:15 AM

paul2000 has got some nice hopium for us:

Quote from: paul2000 on September 30, 2015, 11:03:41 PM

= moon in november ?!

ccmf

Quote from: nioc on October 03, 2015, 01:37:37 AM

We have reached Normality.

Or that's what they want us to think.

Quote from: gizmoh on October 02, 2015, 09:31:26 PM

For those who are bored on this forum, there's r/BitcoinMarkets daily discussion.

Friday's discussion is quite interesting:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3n6vl6/daily_discussion_friday_october_02_2015/

Reddt's always good for drama if you want it.

Mike Hearn accidentally reveals that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. Shocked butters take refuge in irrational denial.
submitted 1 day ago by jstolfi

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 03, 2015, 08:48:43 PM

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Quote from: ImI on October 03, 2015, 01:21:57 PM

Gemini will have pretty though KYC into place

Accredited investors don't care about KYC.

Gemini is targeting serious megawhales who wouldn't ever go near an offshore toy like Bitfinex.

I'd love to see what they could to Bitcoin.

Quote from: dre1982 on October 04, 2015, 03:12:34 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on October 04, 2015, 02:44:51 PM

No weekend dump = Monday morning pump?

The last 2 weekends there wasn't be a dump. So shall we see 250 next weekend.

I hope so but seems the wall after the 240 is filled with soap. Every little step at it and the price slipped.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 06, 2015, 01:02:09 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 06, 2015, 11:36:53 AM

Core is not the end.

http://coinjournal.net/gavin-andresen-bitcoin-core-wont-make-the-consensus-rules-in-the-future/

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“Up to now, the Bitcoin protocol and the Bitcoin Core reference implementation had been one and the same, and that’s not quite true. We do have a couple other implementations that implement the protocol. Toshi at Coinbase, BTCD from Conformal Systems and libbitcoin I think also is another full re-augmentation of the Bitcoin protocol. Bitcoin Core is by far the dominant version of the software that everybody’s running and really, Bitcoin Core sets the consensus rules. I don’t think it should be that way and I don’t think it will be that way in the future.”

Quote from: tarmi on October 06, 2015, 11:32:55 AM

cryptsy stopping withdrawals.
so it begins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.100

I think this shitcoin central will have more impact on price than gemini. because bitcoin.

Yeah, everyone will trade in their shitcoins for bitcoins.

Edit: CCMF!!! Thanks Tarmi for the bullish news!!! CCMF!!!

It isn't even real news, from what I can gather...

Real news:

Bitcoin Price Hits Highest Level Since August

Cheesy

Quote from: nioc on October 07, 2015, 12:00:27 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 06, 2015, 11:13:27 PM

Real news:

Bitcoin Price Hits Highest Level Since August

Cheesy

"but accelerated at 14:00 UTC when the price jumped from $243.01 to $246.15 over a 15-minute span."

My oh my I can't believe it Shocked

Up $3.14 WOW

Thanks for posting as I never read that rag.

I wonder if they will cover Dumpsgiving with the same gusto Undecided

Quote from: !! pop on October 07, 2015, 10:21:46 PM

Back down? Sad

Bitcoin protocol was scientifically calculated by Satoshi to maximize suffering. With mathematical certainty.

Quote from: bad_char5 on October 09, 2015, 01:10:15 AM

Quote from: pleaseexplainagain on October 09, 2015, 12:23:18 AM

...
Gemini appeals to what i call the "cautious adventurer"...

Gemini... Not a native English speaker, but know how you guys turn nouns into verbs? Trend(n)->trend(v); parent(n)->parent(v), that sort of thing? And even adjectives (yellow(adj)->yellow(v))?

Now I was thinking "Gemini limps into obscurity," but not in "walking with a limp" sense (though "lame" is a bit closer, maybe "laming"?), more like the verb form of "flaccid" kind of limping. Are you picturing it? Like flacciding but that just sounds all wrong.
Can anyone help?

Obscuring into flaccidity?

I'd like to commission an NLC original prose poem or short story. I suggest themes of transhumanism and deep spiritual loss. I'm prepared to pay in a series of microtransactions.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 10, 2015, 12:01:48 AM

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Quote from: mymenace on October 10, 2015, 01:49:27 AM

recent news from an experienced trader i follow

...."observing an increased volume activity among all the biggest bitcoin exchanges, this let me think that bitcoin is probably accumulating to later break the trading range and move above $250."....
https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/long-term-update-again-on-volatility/

hope it helps anyone

Looks like they're not seeing the mystery candles for 10-80k coins happening in china with clockwork regularity, nor the repeating orders on bitstamp that barely move the price, nor the complete dearth of action in the intervening periods.

To use raw volume numbers reported by the unregulated exchanges as the sole basis for a trade sounds to be something other than "experienced".

For the last two nights I watched about 6k coins quickly thrown into a 25 Bitcoin wall at the quietest time possible on Bitstamp. The price barely moved by a dollar. Apart from that the volume was almost none-existent. It's funny how it happened when most people were sleeping. Exchanges faking volume makes me so angry. Angry

The bots have us all propped up. Can't beat the machines.

Quote from: gentlemand on October 10, 2015, 02:43:24 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 10, 2015, 02:31:14 PM

They've done everything right. If it goes to shits it's because Bitcoin failed them.

Bitcoin don't owe nobody nothing. She's a cruel mistress.

I'm becoming more and more convinced the only legitimate use-case for Bitcoin is as a means of exchange on the darknet. The rest of us are just kind of confused parasites (or worse).

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on October 10, 2015, 03:44:00 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on October 10, 2015, 03:31:22 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 10, 2015, 03:16:10 PM

I'm becoming more and more convinced the only legitimate use-case for Bitcoin is as a means of exchange on the darknet. The rest of us are just kind of confused parasites (or worse).

Well, I think you're lovely.

I'd agree in the sense that darknet is the one and only thing to you can point to and say it's something crypto can do that nothing else can.

There's no shortage of other uses where I think it's better than existing systems but it demands that the rest of the world sit up and start making use of it. For example I bought a pal of mine a coffee in Tblisi while I was relaxing in my y fronts at home. It would've taken a week or so for that money to filter through by conventional means.

Yep, micro payments and deep web payments (for people that know how to use it safely) are where bitcoin shines.

BMB still needs a gnu coke boat tho Undecided

Quote from: bad_char5 on October 10, 2015, 05:03:52 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 10, 2015, 04:56:48 PM

Quote from: bad_char5 on October 10, 2015, 04:39:21 PM

Question:
Is Gemini failing because it's Bitcoin's antithesis--regulated, safe, legal, etc., or is it really a success, and other exchanges are just facades of fake volume?
False dichotomy?
Discuss!

Bitcoin failed because you trolled it to shits.

Go join the big leagues. Go troll obamacare to shits while you're at it. Or oxfam. Your raw talent at being a dickhole can really take you places. Maybe you could be the first lib dem prime minister?

You know that Golgotha incident a while ago? Now guess who was behind that Cool

Tell me baby, what's my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, what's my name
[spoiler] It's Rumpelstiltskin! [/spoiler]

Quote from: Blazin8888 on October 10, 2015, 04:58:26 PM

This is one of the most exciting times for BTC ...imo

In a weird Boston Molasses Disaster sort of way, yeah...

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~~Molasses~~Bitcoins, waist deep, covered the street and swirled and bubbled about the wreckage ... Here and there struggled a form—whether it was animal or human being was impossible to tell. Only an upheaval, a thrashing about in the sticky mass, showed where any life was ... Horses died like so many flies on sticky fly-paper. The more they struggled, the deeper in the mess they were ensnared. Human beings—men and women—suffered likewise.

The resemblance is remarkable Shocked

Quote from: Blazin8888 on October 10, 2015, 05:18:40 PM

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, ..

Quote from: yolalanda on October 10, 2015, 11:04:59 PM

Quote from: wakasaki808 on October 10, 2015, 11:00:05 PM

In 2 years we will be very rich

The past 2 years have clearly taught you NOTHING.
Aren't you ashamed?

2 years from now even the dust in your lap will be worth a king's ransom. It will be bamboo pillows and electric fireplaces for everyone!

...and your hot statist sobs of humiliation will be like the warm mist humidifier in my personal luxury automobile. Angry

Quote from: Fakhoury on October 11, 2015, 12:16:29 AM

Quote from: wakasaki808 on October 10, 2015, 11:00:05 PM

In 2 years we will be very rich

I would like to hear your reasons for your statment brother

He sent us all a Bitmessage about it weeks ago. Check your Bitmessages, people!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 11, 2015, 05:13:14 AM

Quote from: yolalanda on October 11, 2015, 05:00:21 AM

^^??? Whatcha talkin' bout Jasper? What's wrong? Is it because Sat night & all the filthy casuals titratin' themselves with shitty neurotoxins? Whatever recreational chemical you paid 2x2much4 in "The DeeeEep Web Of Thieves Losermart," you make sure never to buy from that feller again, K?

I must have made you upset, cause I can't understand a fuckin word of that.

I believe he means to suggest you be more careful in your selection of recreationals?

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 11, 2015, 02:02:14 PM

Quote from: chmod755 on October 11, 2015, 07:16:36 PM

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"May it please heaven that the reader, emboldened and having for the time being become as fierce as what he is reading, should, without being led astray, find his rugged and treacherous way across the desolate swamps of these sombre and poison-filled pages."

Quote from: wakasaki808 on October 11, 2015, 07:09:22 PM

something smell fishy..... bumps without reasons?.... oh...

Maybe people are buying for reasons you/we don't know about.

Sometimes someone actually needs coins to buy 'somethings'.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 12, 2015, 01:50:29 PM

Quote from: Tzupy on October 12, 2015, 01:18:18 PM

Someone please remind me, in case I missed it, why does this happen on OKCoin?
On huge volume the price barely moves, then on low volume we have this drop (or the previous pump)?

I wish that those totally useless "bitcoin news" sites would investigate and report on this issue, if only by asking the exchange owners about those spikes.

On a couple of occasions, I have seen a huge sell order flash on the OKCoin order book, just at the top of the spread, only to be immediately and precisely eaten by a matching buy order. They may be trades arranged in advance, set to happen at a predetermined price or time.

I seem to recall, several years ago, an announcement by some exchange that they were implementing "shadow" book orders, that are invisible to most ordinary clients. Perhaps they just started showing shadow-book trades on the ordinary ticker, to boost their public volume numbers...

Someone buying his own coins to simulate interest is my best bet.

Good thing I bought my honey puffs yesterday Roll Eyes

The community has had it up to here with you, mister Angry

Quote from: Blazin8888 on October 12, 2015, 02:50:07 PM

This is key here

Quote from: billyjoeallen on October 13, 2015, 10:50:54 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on October 13, 2015, 08:33:00 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 13, 2015, 08:21:33 PM

So what if he/they make a decision sometime late 2016/early 2017, and it turns out to be the "wrong" one? Will they spend three years to change that as well?

If it can't offer enough people usability then other systems will and it'll die. It's a trillion miles away from being 'too big to fail'. I can see why they'd grind to a halt but it doesn't exist in a vacuum and the world is a fast moving place that don't give a shit about Bitcoin's nobility.

+1

We are being played against each other. Rough consensus attack:

http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-August/026151.html

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It turns out that there is a really nice attack. If the group has a
protocol in mind, then all the attacker has to do is:

   a) suggest a new alternate protocol.
   b) balance the group so that there is disagreement, roughly evenly
balanced between the original and the challenger.

Suggesting an alternate is really easy - as we know there are dozens of
prototypes out there, just gotta pick one that's sufficiently different.
  In this case I can think of 3 others without trying, and 6 people on
this group could design 1 in a month.

Balancing the group is just a matter of phone calls and resources. Call
in favours. So many people out there who would love to pop in and utter
an opinion. So many friends of friends, willing to strut their stuff.

Because of the rules of rough consensus, if a rough balance is
preserved, then it stops all forward movement. This is a beautiful
attack. If the original side gets disgusted and walks, the attacker can
simply come up with a new challenger. If the original team quietens
down, the challenger can quieten down too - it doesn't want to win, it
wants to preserve the conflict.

The attack can't even be called, because all contributors are doing is
uttering an opinion as they would if asked. The attack simply uses the
time-tested rules which the project is convinced are the only way to do
these things.

The only defence I can see is to drop rough consensus. By offering
rough consensus, it's almost a gilt-edged invitation to the attacker.
The attacker isn't so stupid as to not use it.

Can anyone suggest a way to get around this? I think this really puts a
marker on the map - you simply can't do a security/crypto protocol under
rough consensus in open committee, when there is an attacker out there
willing to put in the resources to stop it.

Thoughts?

Hey BJA. Didn't you mean to say Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares Bitshares ??

Or something about Bitshares maybe?

At least that upside-down Ripple shill is long gone. Remember that guy? Tongue

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 14, 2015, 10:02:51 PM

Quote from: tarmi on October 15, 2015, 11:35:35 PM

Price is dropping, somebody should call houbi CEO.

It's a catastrophe!

Catz iz srs buznis. Srsly!

So is this Liquid side-chain Confidential Transactions-ready? Or wat?

And another thing, didn't Brock Pierce already have some coin on the side that let you ~~jump thrust~~ move in and out of Bitcoin more ~~smoothly lubelessly~~ easily? So: wats the difference now?

Quote from: coinpr0n on October 16, 2015, 03:25:31 AM

Pleasantly surprised to see the price still holding up - I was expecting an overnight lull.

Slow and steady is good, they say, but volatility is fun.. let's shoot for even higher!

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 16, 2015, 02:17:58 AM

So is this Liquid side-chain Confidential Transactions-ready? Or wat?

And another thing, didn't Brock Pierce already have some coin on the side that let you ~~jump thrust~~ move in and out of Bitcoin more ~~smoothly lubelessly~~ easily? So: wats the difference now?

Yeah, Liquid supposedly implements Confidential Transactions. Don't know anything about that Brock Pierce thing.

Realcoin it was called: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-announces-dollar-backed-cryptocurrency-realcoin/

Quote from: Lauda on October 16, 2015, 11:26:16 AM

$4.51 up already today on Bitstamp. This is certainly more interesting than yesterday or the day before that. I wonder if the price will be able to hold above $260 or at least $250. It would be nice to move away from $230 (even though there's nothing wrong staying with that either). This is the highest price since mid August.

Quote from: bitebits on October 16, 2015, 11:07:54 AM

I am so conditioned to expect huge dumps after a small rise..

Why?

Because Bitcoin...

I read something about a vast Russian MMM ponzi currently operating in South Africa buying up Bitcoins. Any news?

Quote

Bobby Lee, CEO of Chinese exchange BTCC, told CoinDesk his platform has seen a significant volume increase, though he dismissed much of his competitors' volume as "artificial".

Those behind the volume, he said, are not traders but consumers sucked into a Russian ponzi scheme, MMM.

"We have posted warnings on our site and on our social media to warn users to be careful, but they have been coming to our exchange and buying out like crazy," he said, adding:

"This time it's not speculative trading but based on them getting sucked into this ecosystem."

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/654273706013798401?lang=en

Quote from: gentlemand on October 17, 2015, 02:13:01 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 01:46:53 AM

This place is dull suddenly. Must we seek out the bespoke services of a new troll? I think 4chan has them cheap.

Can we, er, not do that?

The unbridled enthusiasm was getting to me Tongue

Quote from: gentlemand on October 17, 2015, 02:38:14 AM

Quote from: E on October 17, 2015, 02:35:38 AM

Anyone who feels consoled by that is a jerk.

That's the only negativity I have to offer right now. Oh, and my elbow hurts a bit.

I imagine a lot of good folks can really relate to an elbow that hurts a bit. We might actually help someone here. Have you tried Gin at all?

Quote from: gentlemand on October 17, 2015, 02:45:34 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 02:40:58 AM

I imagine a lot of good folks can really relate to an elbow that hurts a bit. We might actually help someone here. Have you tried Gin at all?

No. Just heroin.

Anyway this is no time for drug and elbow problems. Let's watch some price action.

Are there any prediction markets looking at BTC price action? They tend to be amazingly accurate.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 17, 2015, 03:15:33 AM

Talk about being lifted higher with an atomic wedgie, hoo-o-boy $281.

Fake volume or not, these guys put on a show.

Surreptitiously eyeing seats as the music plays.

I half feel like I should be trading this.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on October 17, 2015, 03:15:23 AM

crazy ass shit.I got a sell order @ $267.5 at BFX and it's been hovering around 276.49 for 15 minutes.

Then again...

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 17, 2015, 03:14:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 16, 2015, 10:43:33 PM

I read something about a vast Russian MMM ponzi currently operating in South Africa buying up Bitcoins. Any news?

Quote

Bobby Lee, CEO of Chinese exchange BTCC, told CoinDesk his platform has seen a significant volume increase, though he dismissed much of his competitors' volume as "artificial".

Those behind the volume, he said, are not traders but consumers sucked into a Russian ponzi scheme, MMM.

"We have posted warnings on our site and on our social media to warn users to be careful, but they have been coming to our exchange and buying out like crazy," he said, adding:

"This time it's not speculative trading but based on them getting sucked into this ecosystem."

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/654273706013798401?lang=en

"South Africa" must include a many of the poorest and least educated people there.

Ah, bitcoin -- bringing First World financial ruin to the unbanked in the Third World...

May you all go broke, and burn in hell...

Hehe. Thanks for the cross-post, Professor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3p2mot/butts_allegedly_being_used_by_sergei_mavrodis/

*Waves* Hi Butters!

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 17, 2015, 03:01:47 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 04:19:46 AM

Explanation

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned.

--https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/3167.jstofl

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 17, 2015, 03:14:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 16, 2015, 10:43:33 PM

I read something about a vast Russian MMM ponzi currently operating in South Africa buying up Bitcoins. Any news?

Quote

Bobby Lee, CEO of Chinese exchange BTCC, told CoinDesk his platform has seen a significant volume increase, though he dismissed much of his competitors' volume as "artificial".

Those behind the volume, he said, are not traders but consumers sucked into a Russian ponzi scheme, MMM.

"We have posted warnings on our site and on our social media to warn users to be careful, but they have been coming to our exchange and buying out like crazy," he said, adding:

"This time it's not speculative trading but based on them getting sucked into this ecosystem."

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/654273706013798401?lang=en

"South Africa" must include a many of the poorest and least educated people there.

Ah, bitcoin -- bringing First World financial ruin to the unbanked in the Third World...

May you all go broke, and burn in hell...

Hehe. Thanks for the cross-post, Professor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3p2mot/butts_allegedly_being_used_by_sergei_mavrodis/

*Waves* Hi Butters!

Found this: https://www.facebook.com/MMMGlobalRB

This run may not end well Embarrassed

My name is Randy, and I'm a member of MMM Global Bitcoin.

"Helping more people."

https://www.facebook.com/MMMGlobalRB/videos/vb.399778376881905/419502614909481/?type=2&theater

Quote from: tarmi on October 17, 2015, 08:05:17 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 08:03:29 PM

My name is Randy, and I'm a member of MMM Global Bitcoin.

"Helping more people."

sounds like any bulltard here.

...

when will the panic start? 220?

Weekly update: https://www.facebook.com/MMMGlobalRB/videos/vl.1036580956373009/406671159525960/?type=1&theater

tl;dr: "Hello, here is the news. Everything is wonderful in the Republic of Bitcoin. "

Quote from: phoenix1 on October 17, 2015, 10:41:22 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on October 17, 2015, 10:38:27 PM

Quote from: muyuu on October 17, 2015, 10:34:21 PM

Bloody hell. Is that what kids are wearing these days in America??

Shirts? Yup. They came over from the Old World about three years ago. All the Americans I've met were delighted to throw those smocks away.

I think he might also have been talking about the thing on his head Cheesy

Hair in the Americas goes back decades. Roll Eyes

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 07:50:38 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 17, 2015, 04:19:46 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 17, 2015, 03:14:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 16, 2015, 10:43:33 PM

I read something about a vast Russian MMM ponzi currently operating in South Africa buying up Bitcoins. Any news?

Quote

Bobby Lee, CEO of Chinese exchange BTCC, told CoinDesk his platform has seen a significant volume increase, though he dismissed much of his competitors' volume as "artificial".

Those behind the volume, he said, are not traders but consumers sucked into a Russian ponzi scheme, MMM.

"We have posted warnings on our site and on our social media to warn users to be careful, but they have been coming to our exchange and buying out like crazy," he said, adding:

"This time it's not speculative trading but based on them getting sucked into this ecosystem."

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/654273706013798401?lang=en

"South Africa" must include a many of the poorest and least educated people there.

Ah, bitcoin -- bringing First World financial ruin to the unbanked in the Third World...

May you all go broke, and burn in hell...

Hehe. Thanks for the cross-post, Professor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3p2mot/butts_allegedly_being_used_by_sergei_mavrodis/

*Waves* Hi Butters!

Found this: https://www.facebook.com/MMMGlobalRB

This run may not end well Embarrassed

Tin foil hat time:

Notwitstanding Jorge's sudden indignation, in fact this particular scam is nothing new; I found videos back to January. But I know some higher-ups in the PRC have told Bobby Lee personally that they don't want another speculative bubble. So Lee points to the MMM.

But all signs still point to China.

Quote from: TReano on October 18, 2015, 03:20:07 PM

full retrace of the previous day.

Good Luck Bulls from here on!

I'm poor again. This game is so much fun Grin

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 18, 2015, 08:03:21 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 18, 2015, 07:12:23 PM

Quote from: Elwar on October 18, 2015, 07:00:27 PM

Quote from: arklan on October 18, 2015, 06:00:11 PM

so apprently i missed some big shit in my inactivity the last couple months...

bitcoin xt? satoshi actually posting something on the dev mailing list? wow.

and here the price action is going all interesting places.

interesting times indeed.

Bitcoin XT was a dud. "Satoshi" posting was likely the hacker that hacked his e-mail account last year.

no, that was not the same account. the one satoshi used on this matter seems legit as far as the story goes.

in any case, nobody knows, so let cut the hacker crap and focus on the message rather than the messenger, as i personally found it well written and quite insightful.

Of course you and gmaxwell thought so.

But for the rest of us it looks a bit silly that either satoshi or the guy/girl hacking his account used satoshis authority to thrash xt at the same time as he/she asks people not to be swayed by authority.

The person who wrote that PoS must be an idiot. I hope it's not Satoshi. I'd like to think he is smarter than that.

It was weak, I'm with you. Besides if Satoshi wanted to tell us something he still has his account here. But nope.

Quote from: ImI on October 20, 2015, 10:46:36 PM

Quote from: nioc on October 20, 2015, 10:44:07 PM

Every time I open bitwisdom I am reminded what the price was 18 months ago when it was the first thing I favorited on my new comp. $445.75

lol! same here!

$480 here

Quote from: !! pop on October 21, 2015, 11:26:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 21, 2015, 10:40:17 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on October 21, 2015, 06:31:54 PM

Quote from: !! pop on October 21, 2015, 12:15:43 AM

-With all the constructive things to be done, why do you concentrate on destruction?
-You call Bitcoin mining destruction?! With Bitcoin, a race of superior men could be developed, men whose only wants are ...electricity!
https://youtu.be/uAm-RUyPzCM?t=300
(This currency of yours isn't science -- it's black magic!)

to easy : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2opl7v_system-of-a-down-science-lyrics_music

OMG. Lambie is a fan of Armenian-American rock from the 90's.

So was electro-biologist Dr. John Lawrence, precognitively.

That makes more sense Cheesy

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 22, 2015, 06:15:46 AM

@Holliday

Thanks for a properly solid contribution! Well thought, well written.

Yes, if only he could finally decide...

Quote from: !! pop on October 22, 2015, 11:39:50 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 22, 2015, 11:08:55 PM

Like wind blowing through a field of oats. Evil wind! Angry

If a body catch a body ... wait, wait: if a body meet a body in a field of oats. Yeah, that's it!
Easy wind cross the Bayoutoda-hay
'Coz there's a wholelotta wimeen, mama
Out in red on the streeets today.

Comin thro' the rye, poor body,
Comin thro' the rye,
She draigl't a' her petticoatie,
Comin thro' the rye!

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 24, 2015, 12:19:49 AM

Tim Draper is ready. Are you?

Quote from: nioc on October 24, 2015, 12:54:40 AM

Quote from: ssmc2 on October 24, 2015, 12:53:47 AM

Go time

Yes 280!

Quote from: ImI on October 24, 2015, 01:00:21 AM

first time that gemini ask is lower than stamp

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 24, 2015, 06:56:56 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 24, 2015, 06:59:33 PM

Quote from: yolalanda on October 24, 2015, 12:26:13 PM

The Predictability Factor is a unique book addressing the predictability of future success of new churches and existing churches attempting to turn from decline to growth.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 24, 2015, 12:01:40 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on October 24, 2015, 11:15:32 PM

Wile E., have you ever been wrong?!

lambie loved that particular gif

That is what we call an SP, or suppressive person. On the bridge to clear we all just have to encircle that engram and move beyond.

KSW, brother. What level of OT have you achieved?

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 24, 2015, 11:01:33 PM

KSW, brother. What level of OT have you achieved?

Give $500,000 to this guy

And I'll tell you.

Quote from: ssmc2 on October 24, 2015, 11:36:02 PM

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhh

Quote from: Meuh6879 on October 25, 2015, 12:07:42 AM

less than 500 USD ... is not possible, now.

Ah, the SOUL train :

Nice!

Quote from: rpietila on October 25, 2015, 11:08:28 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on October 25, 2015, 10:52:14 AM

How many people committed suicide (or were thrown back into abject, inescapable poverty) when the Brazilian command and control fiat monetary system last collapsed (for the umpteenth time in a row)??

Bible predicts that 1/3 of mankind will perish in famine, war and disease when the U.S. fiat money ends.

O really? Please tell us more about what your holy book teaches of the natural world.

...moron

'I don't always die but when I do, I don't.'-- The Laws of Manu

Quick! Everybody all in Mavros!

Quote from: !! pop on October 26, 2015, 12:27:52 AM

Quote from: NSA360 on October 26, 2015, 12:16:01 AM

Yeah man, are you afraid of what? Up trend for almost 60 days and you are in doubt? Change you chart for 6 and 12h. Also, before the auction it will be no hard crash. this is only a retrace to the price of yesterday.

OK. But if you're lying, and it tanks like it always does, I'll find you and

Am I making myself clear?

They are not long, the days of wine and roses:
Out of a misty dream
Our path emerges for a while, then closes
Within a dream.

Quote from: Fakhoury on October 26, 2015, 12:35:27 AM

Quote from: Blazin8888 on October 26, 2015, 12:32:51 AM

People buying BTC and moving into ETH we will see sharp BTC price action next months!!!

Why ?

Because Biteshares or whatever was last week.

PSA: Don't forget to pay your ransom

Quote from: ssmc2 on October 27, 2015, 12:52:36 AM

Honey badger said F this correction BS. Time for more fun.

He might have said it. But it was my idea Angry

Quote from: nioc on October 27, 2015, 01:01:16 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 27, 2015, 12:38:16 AM

Quote from: Harpua on October 27, 2015, 12:24:26 AM

Quote from: natewelt on October 26, 2015, 11:44:58 PM

Bitstamp bid support is growing like a boss. Love it.

Exactly what we need to ramp up to higher prices.

Sorry for the newb question... but where can I see instant transactions taking place on multiple exchange sites at once?

You can also take a look at this:

https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/

Thanks for this

$291.14 will now be memorialized.

$292.51 here Tongue

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 27, 2015, 01:19:58 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 27, 2015, 01:02:56 AM

Quote from: nioc on October 27, 2015, 01:01:16 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 27, 2015, 12:38:16 AM

Quote from: Harpua on October 27, 2015, 12:24:26 AM

Quote from: natewelt on October 26, 2015, 11:44:58 PM

Bitstamp bid support is growing like a boss. Love it.

Exactly what we need to ramp up to higher prices.

Sorry for the newb question... but where can I see instant transactions taking place on multiple exchange sites at once?

You can also take a look at this:

https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/

Thanks for this

$291.14 will now be memorialized.

$292.51 here Tongue

2x2 here

...and the ants go marching.

Soon.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on October 28, 2015, 12:01:55 AM

Quote from: medialab101 on October 28, 2015, 01:10:03 AM

"I was in great difficulty. An urgent journey was facing me. A seriously ill man was waiting for me in a village ten miles distant. A severe snowstorm filled the space between him and me. I had a carriage—"

This reminds me of those scenes in the movies where they are storming the castle gate with the battering ram Cheesy

Quote from: ImI on October 28, 2015, 01:13:16 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 28, 2015, 01:10:37 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796276.msg12805414#msg12805414

negativity is strong in this one

Bullishly negative?

Quote from: ImI on October 28, 2015, 01:15:55 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 28, 2015, 01:14:44 AM

Quote from: ImI on October 28, 2015, 01:13:16 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 28, 2015, 01:10:37 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796276.msg12805414#msg12805414

negativity is strong in this one

Bullishly negative?

negative negative

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on October 28, 2015, 01:36:02 AM

Is this the end?

Quote from: spooderman on October 28, 2015, 01:38:37 AM

welcome back adam!

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 29, 2015, 01:09:18 AM

Quote from: spooderman on October 29, 2015, 01:03:00 AM

manbearwhale was so weird. what is the overall take on what happened there? someone eating their own coins?

Someone who preferred $9,000,000.

Seemed like a pretty open and fair way to liquidate such a huge number of coins, and the psychology after the action was pretty positive.

Was this before or after what we now know to have been Ethereum ~~dumping their war-chest~~ funding their project?

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 29, 2015, 01:21:09 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 29, 2015, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 29, 2015, 01:09:18 AM

Quote from: spooderman on October 29, 2015, 01:03:00 AM

manbearwhale was so weird. what is the overall take on what happened there? someone eating their own coins?

Someone who preferred $9,000,000.

Seemed like a pretty open and fair way to liquidate such a huge number of coins, and the psychology after the action was pretty positive.

Was this before or after what we now know to have been Ethereum ~~dumping their war-chest~~ funding their project?

The ethereum btc address was known, and it didn't get sold all at once. I would go digging but I don't care that much. They were down to a few thousand coins at last glance. And iirc it was never 30k.

I think I remember that now. It's been a crazy year.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on October 29, 2015, 01:32:42 AM

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on October 29, 2015, 01:24:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 29, 2015, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 29, 2015, 01:09:18 AM

Quote from: spooderman on October 29, 2015, 01:03:00 AM

manbearwhale was so weird. what is the overall take on what happened there? someone eating their own coins?

Someone who preferred $9,000,000.

Seemed like a pretty open and fair way to liquidate such a huge number of coins, and the psychology after the action was pretty positive.

Was this before or after what we now know to have been Ethereum ~~dumping their war-chest~~ funding their project?

asking who the bearwhale was...

like asking who Satoshi was.

He was the bearwhale.

Not unless he mined a bunch of coins later. The early blocks that we know Matoshi mined have coins that have never moved.

Not Satoshi was the bearwhale. The bearwhale was the bearwhale. The 'he' denotes the person (not necessarily Satoshi) who was the bearwhale...

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on October 29, 2015, 01:36:23 AM

Meant it doesn't matter in either case.

Bearwhale was the beast for his time and place. And he is no more.

Or is he...

In theory I guess he could just be bigger now. Scary thought?

Quote from: gentlemand on October 29, 2015, 01:39:06 AM

He's down in the Mariana Trench feeding off the hot sulphur and swelling ever larger every second...

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 29, 2015, 03:36:38 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 29, 2015, 03:28:42 PM

Quote from: aztecminer on October 29, 2015, 03:20:33 PM

yeah right... bitcoin is rising cuz.... bitcoin................... stop brushing your teeth with fluoride and maybe your vision will clear enough to see past the bs.

Yeah, 'cause "[a] foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice.".

LOL Exactly what I was thinking.

Cheesy

Quote from: Dilla on October 29, 2015, 10:43:32 PM

Quote from: peonminer on October 29, 2015, 09:56:15 PM

FFS China has headed 330 twice with no avail.... how many more goes til they abandon ship??

attempt #3.....

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115502/taiwanese-kidnappers-receive-168m-bitcoin-ransom-from-billionaire-yuk-kwan

Quote

During his captivity, kidnappers burned Yuk-Kwan’s face with cigarettes and brutally attacked him, causing severe injuries to his body.

Editorial: Hory sheet!

Quote from: peonminer on October 29, 2015, 11:14:40 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 29, 2015, 11:12:06 PM

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115502/taiwanese-kidnappers-receive-168m-bitcoin-ransom-from-billionaire-yuk-kwan

Quote

During his captivity, kidnappers burned Yuk-Kwan’s face with cigarettes and brutally attacked him, causing severe injuries to his body.

Editorial: Hory sheet!

AND THEY JUST WANT MOAAARRRRR

This is violently bullish Shocked

So, this is Patrick.

Quote from: 2015Bubble on October 30, 2015, 01:05:50 AM

huobi says: you shall not pass 2100

(time to take a shit)

Taylor Swift? Is that you?

Sounds like you guys had an exciting night. There's no way I can read all those posts before work!

Quote from: yolalanda on October 30, 2015, 10:27:21 PM

Lucrative exit opportunity here;
ain't gonna be around much longer...
Report: CryptoWall Creators Earned $325 Million in Bitcoin Ransoms
And I hear they're cashing out. Soon.

If hundreds of thousands of missing Gox coins don't spook you...Here are some Russians that are crooks.

Quote from: sakr on October 30, 2015, 02:22:07 PM

What a journey!

Quote from: Richy_T on October 30, 2015, 11:08:10 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 30, 2015, 11:04:34 PM

For an organization that's supposed to be anti-capitalist, those masks sure are expensive.

Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology, the KKK. Ya, I'm pretty sure I know who's on the right side of history here. Should they darn their own socks, too?

Quote from: Richy_T on October 30, 2015, 11:13:29 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 30, 2015, 11:11:12 PM

Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology, the KKK. Ya, I'm pretty sure I know who's on the right side of history here. Should they darn their own socks, too?

Socks? A bourgeois concept. Join the barefoot proletariat, brother.

Get a haircut, you Hippie Cheesy

Quote from: !! pop on October 30, 2015, 11:26:48 PM

F8ck. Another crack hit of healthy, organic growth Sad

There are real mustard seeds in there!

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 31, 2015, 03:12:37 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 03:09:54 AM

No i buy it at price under $250 Tongue

get +30% it's enough for me
now... im scared and confusion , must i buy again at current price or waiting dumper Huh

what your opinion ?

wait for dumper....
its gone to far to fast man.

at this point, if i wasn't at a halloween party, and not drunk ( i make it a point not to trade drunk under any circumstances anymore ) i'd be dumper...

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 31, 2015, 03:39:33 AM

Quote from: shmadz on October 31, 2015, 03:26:41 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 31, 2015, 03:19:15 AM

Quote from: lyth0s on October 31, 2015, 03:15:45 AM

so when does this shiz go exponential?

in ~ 6 months

we'll be trading in the 300's for a while, accumulating all the bears and the dumb fucks coins then we start to really move up!

Mmmm maybe, I was hoping for dumpstyles, I don't want the accumulation stage to end, so I'm still optimistic that we will see massive correction back to 230...

Realistically, at least I think it's not going ballistic. 300-400 is the new 200-300,

6 months of bouncing in the 3-4 hundred range still be fine, slowly creeping up to 500 around the time of the halving, 6-9 months after that I just hope we can stay below 5000.

i think we'll stay in this order of magnitude randomly bouncing up and down, with a pretty clear upward drift, then all of a suddenly we are going to shoot for that 32,000$.

the way i see it once we break 1000 its for a good reason, like bitcoin in the news as a safe haven from the world economic crisis, we'll see the Fiat world crumble and at the same time we'll have big banks and institutions proclaiming bitcoin as the solution / natural evolution of money. shit is going to go wild, with bitcoin as the official future of money we can EASILY see 1000 - 5000 $ in a week.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on October 31, 2015, 05:43:39 AM

Quote from: r0ach on October 31, 2015, 04:35:42 AM

Nasdaq August tweet comes to pass. He made no mention of XT dragging it down, so I guess it's an even safer haven than he imagines heh:

https://twitter.com/NASDAQ/status/629363305598046208

Of course XT was a factor in the drag down. Not because it simply existed, but because it highlighted a major impediment to growing the network. I fully expect core will be compelled to do something in jan 2016, if not, it means they have been captured by (not so hard to discern) external forces.

I predict half a dozen side-chains all starting with 'L'.

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 31, 2015, 06:11:58 AM

fuck man the guest at my gf halloween party just won't leave, i made a "last little coffee" and everything, STFU and go home poeple. Tongue

I think Nostradamus predicted that would happen.

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 06:15:03 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 31, 2015, 06:08:08 AM

Quote from: xxxxxzzzzz on October 31, 2015, 05:57:10 AM

Just thought I'd point out the current CNY USD rate , per today according to http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDCNY:CUR , to dispel any notion that the chinese exchanges are not running at a +$25 differential to the western exchanges as a result of a not updated exchange rate on bitcoinwisdom and whatever other btc price trackers are being used - yes it's true the CNY has devalued somewhat the past couple days/weeks , but , they are indeed trading at ~$350 USD per current spot rate (2215 / 6.3174 = $350.62) at time of this post. The CNY would have to be devalued by roughly 9% additionally VS USD (a rate of 6.8154) to be considered to be trading at an equivalent price. Since a 9% devaluation overnight of the CNY is highly unlikely to say the least , it's up to the western exchanges to catch up at this point to their $350 (or at least we should have pretty good justification not to dump alongside the chinese exchanges , which are in fact most certainly already trading at a significantly higher rate).

CNY devalued recently
China man buys a lot of bitcoin.
makes sense

i think we can't trust Chinese market, the volume market is "fake"
he use leverage to increase market volume

"loan system and 0% fee" make me doubt to trust chinese volume

And that.

Everybody! Remain calm! For Heaven's sake... You're embarrassing me.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 31, 2015, 10:02:09 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 31, 2015, 09:54:31 PM

Everybody! Remain calm! For Heaven's sake... You're embarrassing me.

I CAN'T STOP!!!

I think it's called shrinkage.

^Like shooting fish in a barrel Roll Eyes

Quote from: podyx on November 01, 2015, 12:51:43 AM

If it was not new user adoption, you'd think they rather shut the fuck up though, wouldn't you?

The government has made it clear to the exchanges, they don't want another bubble. Whatever the official line is you can bet the opposite is true.

The most interesting thing about this thread is there are still old-timers around who think they can talk their book and move the market.

Quote from: !! pop on November 01, 2015, 01:43:17 PM

♫
Is there life on Maaaars?
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And you were there, and you. And you were there!

Everything you were looking for was right there all along.

PS. Happy Anniversary! You degenerates Tongue

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Ooh wow. It's starting to get entertaining around here. Cool

On a side note, looks like our baby is lovin' $320 and don't want to go down.

Trading Rules: http://michaelsincere.com/10-ways-to-trade-penny-stocks/

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10. Don’t fall in love with a penny stock

Every penny stock company wants you think it has an exciting story that will revolutionize the world. If you enter the penny stock arena, be cynical, do your own research, and diversify, even if a friends or family member is touting a stock.

Penny stocks have earned their bad reputation, so beware.

Rule broken by 99% of bit-coin enthusiasts Sad

But bitcoin isn't a penny stock, and the love is.. platonic. Sad

Quote from: nioc on November 01, 2015, 02:25:44 PM

BMB where did you go Huh

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones ?

So if you're gay or a Bitcoiner at all, Russia might not be the best place for you? Cry

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Quote from: gizmoh on November 01, 2015, 02:24:06 PM

In 2016, All Russian Bitcoiners Could Become Terrorists

https://news.bitcoin.com/2016-all-russian-bitcoiners-could-become-terrorists/

All bit coiners already are financial terrorists, singling out Slavs is just racist.

... they're not. There are 20% non-slavic people in Russia.

Step yo game up! You can do better than this!

I want to be trolled SO HARD!!!

Ya hit me. Just once. I want to FEEL something Angry

Ugh. It was no Scent of A Woman, was it?

Quote from: Dilla on November 01, 2015, 04:59:15 PM

The next 24 hours are critical.

I kinda feel like 240 was critical. IDK Undecided

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Quote from: Dilla on November 01, 2015, 04:59:15 PM

The next 24 hours are critical.

I kinda feel like 240 was critical. IDK Undecided

I was trying to make Fatman3001 happy

I considered that...

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 01, 2015, 04:33:57 PM

For the first time since I've joined this forum the next 24 hours are indeed critical, yet I see no mention of it.

I feel you are not joking buddy, what are you trying to say ?

I'm trying to say that the next 24 hours will decide which uni you'll send your little fackhers to.

Although I didn't fully get you, but what this has to do with Bitcoin and/or Bitcoin price Huh

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I'm trying to say that the next 24 hours will decide which uni you'll send your little fackhers to.

That's a bold proclamation. My yet to arrive offspring will be sent off to sea as cabin boys as soon as they turn 4 regardless of what happens.

I am very curious to see whether we'll have another November to remember or more of pretty much the same.

It's not the first time I've fallen flat on my face. Good way to stay grounded.

Put that coffee down! Being grounded is for closers. Angry

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Quote from: AZwarel on November 03, 2015, 01:21:12 AM

... I am kinda of an evangelist, telling every non-comatose living person about BTC ...

Bitcoin Jesus is doing a 2-year stretch, you know that, right? And no, not for money laundering or any of that crap they hung on him. He was just one annoying assburger, and there are no laws against that, so they framed him.
Be careful is all I'm sayin'.

Huh?

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Quote from: AZwarel on November 03, 2015, 01:21:12 AM

... I am kinda of an evangelist, telling every non-comatose living person about BTC ...

Bitcoin Jesus is doing a 2-year stretch, you know that, right? And no, not for money laundering or any of that crap they hung on him. He was just one annoying assburger, and there are no laws against that, so they framed him.
Be careful is all I'm sayin'.

Huh?

Never got Bitcoin Holy Trinity right. Is it Shrem or Ver Jesus? And who is satoshi? Are they all one?

Jesus was the guy selling firecrackers. Shrem was the guy laundering monies.

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Quote from: AZwarel on November 03, 2015, 01:21:12 AM

... I am kinda of an evangelist, telling every non-comatose living person about BTC ...

Bitcoin Jesus is doing a 2-year stretch, you know that, right? And no, not for money laundering or any of that crap they hung on him. He was just one annoying assburger, and there are no laws against that, so they framed him.
Be careful is all I'm sayin'.

Huh?

Never got Bitcoin Holy Trinity right. Is it Shrem or Ver Jesus? And who is satoshi? Are they all one?

Jesus was the guy selling firecrackers. Shrem was the guy laundering monies.

ty & Coo coo ca choo!
Domini Domini Domini

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next big resistance is around 385 (fib level), but I still think that we will meet heavy resistance up to 330

Don't want to brag or anything...

how much bitcoin you own greek boy ?

~400

https://blockchain.info/address/1NBM5DM317RfWsHXKUfPUDtba2scavpPoB

No. Transactions    5
Total Received    0.0339867 BTC
Final Balance    0.01603844 BTC
are you have other address ?

plenty

I can give you the private keys too... Grin

I've got 30 of this babies , god speed greek boy,

buy the way it's wake up time in sillicon valley

http://www.silicon-valley.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/panneau.jpg[/img]

Damn I wish I had 400!, or anywhere near that, even 100, hell, I'd be happy with 30 at this point lol. I HAD over 25 btc, now I have like 5.5 Cry

Yes, getting rid of nearly 80% of your holdings could NOT be good thinking, and it really probably indicates that you were bearis about bitcoin.

I feel a little bit bad about some of my aggressive attempts at trading BTC, and therefore my actual BTC holdings are nearly 3.5% down from their peak, but I am using some coins to attempt to hedge in both directions - nonetheless, whenever BTC prices shoot up, I experience some regrets about the number of coins in my holdings

No sir, I was never a bear.. I had no choice in the matter

I'm sorry to hear that.

I am sure that we cannot prepare for all contingencies, but if you were forced to cash out nearly 80% of your holdings, and if you were not a bear, then most likely, you had over-invested (and over extended yourself) to some extent.

Certainly, I am NOT trying to be judgmental or critical because many times things can go in much of a different direction than we had expected.. and then things come up in life and then bears have been really successful in the past year or so in keeping down the price... but in the end, even a low price for a year, is kind of within what should have been expected and to be prepared for such, no?

Well, Certainly, I believe that there still is a lot of money to be made from bitcoin for those people who are smart enough and willing to recognize and admit that bitcoin is still in its very early days... and we are currently seeing some pumping and some attempts at dumping, and the battle, in essence is being won by the bulls... at least that is our current momentum.

We have an auction coming up this week, so interesting times ahead.

I am currently not suggesting that we are completely cleared from the bull market, but it seems pretty fricking good, especially the quantity of volume of trade that has been going on in the past nearly 12 weeks - look at the weekly candles on bitstamp... entering into week 12 with really good numbers that started out approximately the week before the $198.12 lowpoint in the fourth week of August.

Man, I could swear I read that the first time around and the negative in that third paragraph was NOT capitalized. I thought for sure you had that thing beat. Now I'm going to sleep imagining you went back and fixed that. Like you couldn't help it. I don't know if that's what happened, but it's a pretty funny thought. Isn't JJG Grin

Well, that was quite a day.

Quite, indeed.

Quote from: spooderman on November 04, 2015, 12:18:21 AM

yeah GG taiwan

Wut? They ban the bitcoins too?

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 04, 2015, 12:22:42 AM

Good morning China. Let me pour you a nice cuppa Joe.

We've had a fun day here in the west and now you can join in too. We even got a nice little correction in so you can start out fresh in driving the price to new highs for the year.

Hope you have as much fun as we've had. A bull market is such a jolly thing.

This is my first one. I'm giddy and confused Undecided

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Quote from: JimboToronto on November 04, 2015, 12:22:42 AM

Good morning China. Let me pour you a nice cuppa Joe.

We've had a fun day here in the west and now you can join in too. We even got a nice little correction in so you can start out fresh in driving the price to new highs for the year.

Hope you have as much fun as we've had. A bull market is such a jolly thing.

This is my first one. I'm giddy and confused Undecided

You popped your cherry.

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Hope you have as much fun as we've had. A bull market is such a jolly thing.

This is my first one. I'm giddy and confused Undecided

Beverages help. In fact, I think I'll go have some margaritas to flavor my giddiness and confusion. Maybe some enchiladas too. One can't live on giddiness and confusion alone. Dead castrated animals baked in tortillas help too.

Tongue

Don't cash out your swag all in one place Shocked

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Quote from: arklan on November 04, 2015, 02:53:20 AM

*glances at price, eyes bug out* ...wtf happened!?

It's a good ol' Bitcoin Rally!

NLC is going to have to fix her stupid Wile.E.Coyote .gif

Still $480 to hit. That gif is burned in my brain.

Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on November 03, 2015, 08:34:45 PM

I started shorting @ $399 and kept shorting the whole way up. I could have shorted twice as much, but after covering @$380, I know have enough to safely short Three times as much if we come anywhere close to $420 again. I also transferred in some coins I was using for arbitrage just so I have some extra margin.

Try it again, Bulls. I double dare you. See if I'm bluffing.

I don't believe that's the original billyjoeallen account owner. He was never like that before.

Sold account imo.

Or he already sold his soul for altcoins? Poor guy:/

The perfect storm.

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https://www.btcc.com/news/article/btcc-now-accepting-direct-bank-deposits

BTCC Now Accepting Direct Bank Deposits
Nov 02, 2015

Recent bitcoin price increases have reignited enthusiasm in buying bitcoin. BTCC is confident this trend will continue. As such, we are pleased to announce that we now accept direct deposits.

Customers now need only log in, click on “Account,” then “Fund,” and then select the “Bank Deposit” option to fund their BTCC accounts through their bank accounts. All customers who have Chinese bank accounts will be able to make direct deposits through ATM transfers or online banking.

BTCC will stop accepting customer deposits through agents on November 15.

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Quote from: xxxxxzzzzz on November 04, 2015, 11:14:46 PM

Way to fuck up the markets by force dumping the western exchanges to $70 off from china. The gap was $15 before the vicious dumping forced the western exchanges down. And thanks for the $120 loss off the high point in the last half a day. A retracement into the mid 400's was expected but this is a fucking nightmare scenario seeing it where it is now after the last 2 months of solid gain and last couple days of fantastic gain. Fuck you whoever brutally and without pause for hours slammed the markets into oblivion today. You assholes didn't have to do that. China would have happily stayed above 500 and held the markets up if not for the insane shitstorm that was brought upon on stamp and finex. It's not lack of buying pressure when you intentionally crush the market with 1000s of coins in a minute every ten minutes for hours on end. WTF Angry

Lol, yep, sounds like bitcoin.

If I may summon my inner Shromskits for a moment: That was fucked! Shocked

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Quote from: xxxxxzzzzz on November 04, 2015, 11:14:46 PM

Way to fuck up the markets by force dumping the western exchanges to $70 off from china. The gap was $15 before the vicious dumping forced the western exchanges down. And thanks for the $120 loss off the high point in the last half a day. A retracement into the mid 400's was expected but this is a fucking nightmare scenario seeing it where it is now after the last 2 months of solid gain and last couple days of fantastic gain. Fuck you whoever brutally and without pause for hours slammed the markets into oblivion today. You assholes didn't have to do that. China would have happily stayed above 500 and held the markets up if not for the insane shitstorm that was brought upon on stamp and finex. It's not lack of buying pressure when you intentionally crush the market with 1000s of coins in a minute every ten minutes for hours on end. WTF Angry

Lol, yep, sounds like bitcoin.

If I may summon my inner Shromskits for a moment: That was fucked! Shocked

*Needs more impotent rage.

You people just couldn't stand to have your coins worth anything, just dump and dump and kill the market for everyone and this time it will be for ever!!!

*Closer?

WTF!

Quote from: worhiper_-_ on November 04, 2015, 11:47:18 PM

500$ is sustainable they said.

LOL

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WTF!

BlindMayorBitcorn <--- You lost your bear soul? converted to delusional bull Huh

My soul is full of pessimism and scorpions. But a man can dream Undecided

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

In other news: A smoke shop in Atlanta, Georgia, was robbed of its bitcoin ATM during a brazen heist this week.

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Quote from: harrymmmm on November 05, 2015, 01:16:36 AM

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We've all known for years that bitcoin would shine in crises. We've seen it proven a few times now.
Nothing new about it.
Impossible to predict and exciting to watch tho!

How do you mean? As in "ain't no way Danny Brewster or Ukyo Jon or friedcat or TF or [...] could've sleezed away with millions in fiat, but Bitcoin really came through," that sort of shine?

Ya, so if you think you might need a million bucks in ransom in bitcoins at any point, well, get 'em while they're hot.

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

And another question: how does the Bitpay business model account for swings like this? If I buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 480 and a minute later we're at 400, somehow Bitpay swallows the loss?

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

And another question: how does the Bitpay business model account for swings like this? If I buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 480 and a minute later we're at 400, somehow Bitpay swallows the loss?

sometimes you buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 400 and a minute later it's 480

I did that once so I know you're right. But how would a retail payment processor handle it?

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

And another question: how does the Bitpay business model account for swings like this? If I buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 480 and a minute later we're at 400, somehow Bitpay swallows the loss?

Sorry for the off-topic. I was just curious.

Here:

Quote from: InvestorPerson on November 05, 2015, 02:16:14 AM

would pay 3.50 to see the face of the person that dumped to 300€ on kraken Grin

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

And another question: how does the Bitpay business model account for swings like this? If I buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 480 and a minute later we're at 400, somehow Bitpay swallows the loss?

You could have a bot that sells short the amount of the sale, hedging yourself. I somehow doubt bitpay's doing this tho.

Maybe if/when the exchange landscape becomes more legit/secure. (and if bitpay is still in business when that happens)

I guess they try to make/they'd need to make transition to fiats as quickly as possible, so straight to the exchange. Is that how it works now?

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Quote from: monbux on November 04, 2015, 03:15:47 AM

Not sure if it was the best time to buy but I purchased some more bitcoin at $520 CAD. COME ON BITCOIN, FLY FLY FLY!

I imagine people who really have to use BTC (for *ahem* business reasons) are just hoping it doesn't come crashing down over-night. Stability seemed so much more legit. Embarrassed

Right. So, if you happened to need to use Bitcoin today, you got stoned for it. And not in the way you expected. How do the darknet markets thrive with this kind of volitility?

And another question: how does the Bitpay business model account for swings like this? If I buy a gew-gaw from Nick's Knacks at 480 and a minute later we're at 400, somehow Bitpay swallows the loss?

You could have a bot that sells short the amount of the sale, hedging yourself. I somehow doubt bitpay's doing this tho.

Maybe if/when the exchange landscape becomes more legit/secure. (and if bitpay is still in business when that happens)

I guess they try to make/they'd need to make transition to fiats as quickly as possible, so straight to the exchange. Is that how it works now?

I think I read they do some bulk OTC sales of coin, but yes, I'd imagine a good number go right to the exchange.

i think i heard MOST of there sales are bulk, and rarely do they hit the exchanges
i guess in times like these, they have there bot programed to sell on market right away, but most of the time they are accumulating on behalf of a client buyer

I see. Incidentally then, if you needed a million dollars in bitcoins right away, you probably wouldn't need to market buy all the way up; OTC sales is probably used for that even now.

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 05, 2015, 02:48:28 AM

i want everyone to look here http://bitcoinity.org/markets/okcoin/CNY

you see that 700BTC wall to 3000, imagine it coming down, imagine it being torn apart 1-50 bitcoin at a time.

CONCENTRATE!

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Serious investors will reconsider this investment proposition.
Sorry to break the bullishness guys!

It's possible, but don't you think that the hope of another 2013 will keep it going? Not to mention the charts aren't actually showing anything catastrophic at this point.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

The fact that this insane run-up buying is from the same kind of players that accentuated the 2013 bubble, It could only burst. I think we will go sideways/slow bleed and test support 300 at some point, until the next halving bubble !

Still amazed by the euphoria and empty ask at $500 (not achieved for 2 years) , hoping for more..greed at its finest!

Bloomberg and CNBC-types ate this bubble for breakfast. Now everyone can get rekt together

Anybody think anybody has learned a lesson here today? I know I haven't.

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 07, 2015, 12:39:24 AM

Panic sellers done dumping to the accumulators?

The accumulators already bought. Bulls don't have any fiat left to spend.

You do know you're a bit late to the bear party?

I'm not a permabear. I'll switch back as soon as the first block gets mined >1MB.

LOL! You're a stubborn bastard, that's for sure!

Make it happen schnappy though.

I WANNA BUY A BOAT!!!!

You get any of that pit pat piffy this week, brother? Do you have one of those trading strategies Huh

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on November 07, 2015, 12:50:31 AM

I'm not a permabear. I'll switch back as soon as the first block gets mined >1MB.

I understand your sentiment, mine's more like... "I go full bear if we are met with a stonewall in jan 2016".

I could totally see us going down to the lower 300's, even 290's, and testing those levels too.

There was massive dumping at that peak and throughout the 400's, without much rise in shorts. That was hodlers and bullish traders selling, I suspect not all of that is on an outgoing wire at the moment.

The Economist predicts transactions could take over an hour by early next year if there's no change. Are they wrong?

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 07, 2015, 12:39:24 AM

Panic sellers done dumping to the accumulators?

The accumulators already bought. Bulls don't have any fiat left to spend.

You do know you're a bit late to the bear party?

I'm not a permabear. I'll switch back as soon as the first block gets mined >1MB.

LOL! You're a stubborn bastard, that's for sure!

Make it happen schnappy though.

I WANNA BUY A BOAT!!!!

You get any of that pit pat piffy this week, brother? Do you have one of those trading strategies Huh

Well, I had to contact Bitstamp support because I hadn't used my account since December 2013. I thought "Ooh! This might go through the roof! I might get to buy a boat!". And that's about it.

I am not selling a coin for under $1500 and I'll have to see $2500 for the rest. Maybe.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on November 07, 2015, 12:50:31 AM

I'm not a permabear. I'll switch back as soon as the first block gets mined >1MB.

I understand your sentiment, mine's more like... "I go full bear if we are met with a stonewall in jan 2016".

I could totally see us going down to the lower 300's, even 290's, and testing those levels too.

There was massive dumping at that peak and throughout the 400's, without much rise in shorts. That was hodlers and bullish traders selling, I suspect not all of that is on an outgoing wire at the moment.

The Economist predicts transactions could take over an hour by early next year if there's no change. Are they wrong?

They're not explicitly wrong, but such is life while making guesses based on unpredictable variables. Also, a (premature imo) fee market would allow some user decision on that front.

I read it today. They weren't entirely dismissive of the currency, but they don't seem optimistic. But then they go on to get starry-eyed over the prospect of smart contracts and DAO's. Anyway, I just bought it for the pictures.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on May 07, 2015, 07:17:24 PM

He be chillin. Waiting to short from $3500.

Ah, a man of leisure. A day on the water is a day well spent. Bulls of 2014 can do it too.

~ Signal crackles with analog distortion. ~

Today, intrepid young capitalists discuss the merits of depreciating assets, boats and bitcoin... Here's Tom with the weather...

Back in your day we still had water Embarrassed

That time again eh?

The water market is clearly cyclical or something Tongue

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 07, 2015, 01:55:14 AM

Quote from: mr angry on November 06, 2015, 11:31:09 PM

Wouldn't there be a conflict between that FOIA request and the data protection act? Any personally identifiable information is covered by the data protection act. The bidders have the right to remain anonymous if they wish to. Regular auctions are sometimes won by anonymous bidders, and they get to remain anonymous.

I am not a lawyer, but as a citizen of Brazil I consider any "property" of the Brazilian government to be my property (and of the other 205,046,327 Brazilians). So I should have the right to know who my government sold my property to -- and especially how much the guy paid for it. That should trump his right to privacy.

Any property belonging to the Government of Brazil rightly belongs to you? That must be a magical place to live. I guess housing isn't really an issue.

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 07, 2015, 02:16:35 AM

we're going to need some big event to justify the rise, blocksize limit / scalability being solved would probably be enough.

You really think we can scale tho? I'm starting to see Bitcoin as a kind of flawed masterpiece. Is it fixable?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 07, 2015, 02:16:35 AM

we're going to need some big event to justify the rise, blocksize limit / scalability being solved would probably be enough.

You really think we can scale tho? I'm starting to see Bitcoin as a kind of flawed masterpiece. Is it fixable?

I think this is all mostly posturing from two political camps. Neither trying to concede anything in an effort to determine the trajectory of a compromise. Hard to get "consensus" on a fix for something that's not broken, yet.

Fair enough. But one camp seems to sincerely believe in the urgency of the situation....

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 07, 2015, 02:42:32 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 01:10:20 AM

The Economist predicts transactions could take over an hour by early next year if there's no change. Are they wrong?

That is nonsense. Someone with no idea of how things work just tossed a number.

Once the average traffic (transactions issued per day by all users) exceeds the effective capacity of the network (about 240'000 tx/day, 2.8 tx/s), there will be a steadily growing backlog of unconfirmed transactions. There will not be a fixed delay: the average delay will keep increasing, day after day.

If the traffic were to be 300'000 tx/day (3.5 tx/s), for example, the backlog would grow at the rate of ~60'000 tx per day (~0.7 tx/s). The transactions received in one day will take 300'000/240'000*24 = 30 hours to be confirmed; so the average delay for 1-confirmation will keep growing by 6 hours every day.

If the transactions were serviced first-in, first-out, then all transactions sent in the same hour would be delayed by about the same (but always growing) number of hours. Since the processing priority is largely determined by the fees paid, however, some transactions may be processed in the next block, independently of the backlog, while others will be delayed even more than they would with the fair policy. However, there will be no way to estimate the fee needed to get your transaction confirmed in the next block, or within X hours; because that depends on the fees of transactions that will be issued in the next 10 minutes -- by clients who will want their transactions to be processed before yours.

But that regime cannot last for long, of course. Clients will give up on bitcoin, until traffic drops below the capacity -- say to 220'000 tx/day (~2.6 tx/s). Then, part of the time, there will be no backlog: all transactions will confirm in the next block, even if they pay the minimal fee. However, the traffic varies a lot depending on time of day and day of the week. During peak hours and peak days, the traffic will be quite a bit more than 2.8 tx/s. Then there will be a temporary backlog, lasting several hours, that will be cleared slowly when the traffic subsides.

As before, the backlog and the average confirmation delay will keep growing while the traffic exceeds the capacity. The delay for your transaction, specifically, will depend on its fee, on the transactions that are waiting in the queue, and on the transactions that will be issued by other clients until your transaction is confirmed. On some occasions, many transactions may get delayed by several hours, perhaps by a day or two.

Like that sounds darned urgent, that.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 07, 2015, 02:55:53 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 02:06:39 AM

Any property belonging to the Government of Brazil rightly belongs to you? That must be a magical place to live.

That is how *I* see it, and what the Constitution is supposed to say. That is how you should see it in your country too.

Unfortunately, as in your country, there are many, many government officials who steal my property, or mismanage it, or deny my rights to it. Of course I resent it. I try to fight those abuses by protesting and voting, and hope that enough other Brazilians will do the same.

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I guess housing isn't really an issue.

A large majority of us Brazilians have agreed to let the government use some of our common property for certain uses, like schools, roads, parks, etc. I approve such arrangements in principle; in some of those that I disapprove, I am willing to submit to the majority; and in some others I protest and vote agains, as above.

I can't really argue with leanings I agree with; I just don't see how that would extend to who took final ownership of a bunch of auctioned-off butts. You want a list of who bought what coke-boats, too?

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 07, 2015, 03:06:46 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 02:43:31 AM

Like that sounds darned urgent, that.

When you see sustained runs approaching 2.7 or so tps, then you have darned urgency.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/

Edit: hopefully we'll coast for a couple months

Ok let's go.

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 07, 2015, 03:21:00 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 07, 2015, 02:42:32 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 01:10:20 AM

The Economist predicts transactions could take over an hour by early next year if there's no change. Are they wrong?

That is nonsense. Someone with no idea of how things work just tossed a number.

Once the average traffic (transactions issued per day by all users) exceeds the effective capacity of the network (about 240'000 tx/day, 2.8 tx/s), there will be a steadily growing backlog of unconfirmed transactions. There will not be a fixed delay: the average delay will keep increasing, day after day.

If the traffic were to be 300'000 tx/day (3.5 tx/s), for example, the backlog would grow at the rate of ~60'000 tx per day (~0.7 tx/s). The transactions received in one day will take 300'000/240'000*24 = 30 hours to be confirmed; so the average delay for 1-confirmation will keep growing by 6 hours every day.

If the transactions were serviced first-in, first-out, then all transactions sent in the same hour would be delayed by about the same (but always growing) number of hours. Since the processing priority is largely determined by the fees paid, however, some transactions may be processed in the next block, independently of the backlog, while others will be delayed even more than they would with the fair policy. However, there will be no way to estimate the fee needed to get your transaction confirmed in the next block, or within X hours; because that depends on the fees of transactions that will be issued before your confirmation -- by clients who will want their transactions to be processed before yours.

But that regime cannot last for long, of course. Clients will give up on bitcoin, until traffic drops below the capacity -- say to 220'000 tx/day (~2.6 tx/s). Then, part of the time, there will be no backlog: all transactions will confirm in the next block, even if they pay the minimal fee. However, the traffic varies a lot depending on time of day and day of the week. During peak hours and peak days, the traffic will be quite a bit more than 2.8 tx/s. Then there will be a temporary backlog, lasting several hours, that will be cleared slowly when the traffic subsides.

As before, the backlog and the average confirmation delay will keep growing while the traffic exceeds the capacity. The delay for your transaction, specifically, will depend on its fee, on the transactions that are waiting in the queue, and on the transactions that will be issued by other clients until your transaction is confirmed. On some occasions, many transactions may get delayed by several hours, perhaps by a day or two.

the backlog theory is not right, what will end up happening is that TX with 0 fees will never get confirmed ( in which case they never actually leave your wallet ) TX fees will go up such that the TX / sec is below the 1MB limit, if we get a surge of TX demand that will only push fess higher again making low fee TX never confirm. so basically there will never be an ever growing backlog, only ever growing fees.

at one point tho the high fees will start to affect TX demand negatively ( no one wants to use bitcoin any more because its so expensive ) and at that point bitcoin growth has maxed out due to technological limitations ( or self imposed nonsensically 1MB block limit )

Well by that logic I think tx fees can go a lot higher. The world might want to get on this boat. Tickets will just have to go up.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 01:10:20 AM

The Economist predicts transactions could take over an hour by early next year if there's no change. Are they wrong?

That is nonsense. Someone with no idea of how things work just tossed a number.

Once the average traffic (transactions issued per day by all users) exceeds the effective capacity of the network (about 240'000 tx/day, 2.8 tx/s), there will be a steadily growing backlog of unconfirmed transactions. There will not be a fixed delay: the average delay will keep increasing, day after day.

If the traffic were to be 300'000 tx/day (3.5 tx/s), for example, the backlog would grow at the rate of ~60'000 tx per day (~0.7 tx/s). The transactions received in one day will take 300'000/240'000*24 = 30 hours to be confirmed; so the average delay for 1-confirmation will keep growing by 6 hours every day.

If the transactions were serviced first-in, first-out, then all transactions sent in the same hour would be delayed by about the same (but always growing) number of hours. Since the processing priority is largely determined by the fees paid, however, some transactions may be processed in the next block, independently of the backlog, while others will be delayed even more than they would with the fair policy. However, there will be no way to estimate the fee needed to get your transaction confirmed in the next block, or within X hours; because that depends on the fees of transactions that will be issued before your confirmation -- by clients who will want their transactions to be processed before yours.

But that regime cannot last for long, of course. Clients will give up on bitcoin, until traffic drops below the capacity -- say to 220'000 tx/day (~2.6 tx/s). Then, part of the time, there will be no backlog: all transactions will confirm in the next block, even if they pay the minimal fee. However, the traffic varies a lot depending on time of day and day of the week. During peak hours and peak days, the traffic will be quite a bit more than 2.8 tx/s. Then there will be a temporary backlog, lasting several hours, that will be cleared slowly when the traffic subsides.

As before, the backlog and the average confirmation delay will keep growing while the traffic exceeds the capacity. The delay for your transaction, specifically, will depend on its fee, on the transactions that are waiting in the queue, and on the transactions that will be issued by other clients until your transaction is confirmed. On some occasions, many transactions may get delayed by several hours, perhaps by a day or two.

the backlog theory is not right, what will end up happening is that TX with 0 fees will never get confirmed ( in which case they never actually leave your wallet ) TX fees will go up such that the TX / sec is below the 1MB limit, if we get a surge of TX demand that will only push fess higher again making low fee TX never confirm. so basically there will never be an ever growing backlog, only ever growing fees.

at one point tho the high fees will start to affect TX demand negatively ( no one wants to use bitcoin any more because its so expensive ) and at that point bitcoin growth has maxed out due to technological limitations ( or self imposed nonsensically 1MB block limit )

Well by that logic I think tx fees can go a lot higher. The world might want to get on this boat. Tickets will just have to go up.

+1. seems we are finally getting somewhere.

we are not at the technological limitations tho, at 10-100MB blocks you might have a solid argument to cap block limit in the name of keeping bitcoin decentralized and let fees run up in this fashion.

There's still Hong Kong...

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 07, 2015, 03:51:24 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 03:06:18 AM

I just don't see how that would extend to who took final ownership of a bunch of auctioned-off butts. You want a list of who bought what coke-boats, too?

I don't see why the buyer of public property should have more right to remain anonymous than a contractor who gets hired by the government. In both cases there is a commercial transaction where some valuabe property is exchanged by some amount of money. Why should the two be treated differently?

But, anyway, the identity of the buyers is not so important. The public surely should have the right to know the price that they paid.

It is not surprising that the USMS would rather not publish that information. If the public gets to know that a 1 M$ home was auctioned off by 50 k$, there would be nasty articles and blogposts, suspicion of fraud, etc. -- even if there was no foul play. But FOIA was meant to overcome that petty motivation for government secrecy.

Maybe you have a point. If they decided to sell plots of land, for example, for well below market, that could effect the value of surrounding land and maybe current landowners have a right to know. IDK. I'd need to think more. I don't usually have much sympathy for landowners. Am I stretching the metaphor too far?

Isn't calling Lightning like solutions not Bitcoin kind of a stretch?

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 07, 2015, 05:21:41 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 05:10:31 AM

Isn't calling Lightning like solutions not Bitcoin kind of a stretch?

Isn't calling Lightning like solutions Bitcoin kind of a stretch?

Yes, I guess it is. IDK. Hey what's this?

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Quote from: gotmilk_ on November 07, 2015, 01:26:23 PM

Sub 20mil$ in longs on Bitfinex! Yet we continue to go up and there is really a lot of money on Bitfinex waiting to get used for longs Wink

I guess maybe a push to 400$ is in.

Probably because Bitcoin is currently safer than leaving your money in a bank. Instead of negative interest rates, you'll probably gain 50% or more off current price from halving.

I guess most of us agree that Bitcoin has a lot of potential, but this kind of delusional shit is just hilarious.

He meant safer than leaving your money on a bank.

It's a common mistake.

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 07, 2015, 11:51:22 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 07, 2015, 11:47:15 PM

Cryptsy alert. OTOH is having big problems.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rvl2a/cryptsy_exchange_warning_unable_to_withdrawal/

Good. Shitcoin exchange.

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I have the equivalent of over 200 BTC that I'm trying to withdrawal in BTC, LTC & DASH, but the withdrawal window is not working, I traded out of many USD to do this at a large loss, when can I expect my money to be able to be withdrew-able?

Ouch tho!

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 08, 2015, 12:06:17 AM

Yeah that does suck. We just need to get people off these crap exchanges and unfortunately the only way seems to be fiascoes like this.

Imagine trading for years and years only to end up with all your money at the mercy of someone called JShock?

Quote from: Richy_T on November 08, 2015, 02:11:42 AM

Refueling almost complete, I think.

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huobi says: you shall not pass 2100

(time to take a shit)

Taylor Swift? Is that you?

Finally!

I'll be at the bar. Somebody come get me when the new leads get here. The glengarry leads!

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 08, 2015, 07:49:45 PM

look at that hourly tiny red candle with 6k volume!

support is way stronger than I expected. was THE PLUNGE intercepted Huh

starting to get nervous

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 08, 2015, 03:18:24 PM

good morning bitcoin land.

I was expecting waking up to some big move, so i am kinda disappointed....

remarkable how the coins were bought at the first sign of a dump and then price promptly went back >380.

no matter, THE PLUNGE is coming!

That's comforting.

You know where we're heading.

Nope. No idea. And I never really did Undecided

Ssssshhhhh!! I'm trying to freak out Adam.

I'll put on my doooom face then.

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[booming voice] Weakly leaning towards ~300 retest over the next week or two. [/booming voice]

Thanks!

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Nevermind... necessary perception of reality as stochastic processes is perhaps exactly what distinguishes us from our vision of what a 'higher being' would be.

Darn, would have been so cool to be talking to a god.

If it's any consolation...

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on November 08, 2015, 09:42:49 PM

This is it.

But I was on a boat!

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 08, 2015, 11:45:43 PM

New 5 day low

Go for it!

Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?

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Quote from: LoriIpsum on November 09, 2015, 01:07:41 AM

Guys, is it ok that the price just keeps going down like that?

a newbie that isn't NLC? wow.

I wouldn't put money on that Roll Eyes

I really hope this is Stofl's campus Cheesy

Brazilian University Accepts Bitcoin, Installs Campus ATM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 09, 2015, 11:43:26 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 09, 2015, 11:32:43 PM

I really hope this is Stofl's campus Cheesy

Brazilian University Accepts Bitcoin, Installs Campus ATM

LOL!!!

It's not his uni, but it is his city!

Probably did it just to annoy him.

We only get to experience the text version. How do you think he is in real life?

I bet he's really cuddly, like a teddy bear right out of the dryer:)

About the winners:

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Among the companies at the forefront of this move is DRW Holdings LLC, a high-frequency trading firm in Chicago founded by former options-pit trader Donald Wilson in 1992. DRW is a founding investor in a new bitcoin financial-services firm called Digital Asset Holdings that launched last month. Cumberland Mining & Materials LLC, a DRW subsidiary, has “begun to experiment with cryptocurrency trading,” DRW said.

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About the winners:

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Among the companies at the forefront of this move is DRW Holdings LLC, a high-frequency trading firm in Chicago founded by former options-pit trader Donald Wilson in 1992. DRW is a founding investor in a new bitcoin financial-services firm called Digital Asset Holdings that launched last month. Cumberland Mining & Materials LLC, a DRW subsidiary, has “begun to experiment with cryptocurrency trading,” DRW said.

Itbit's OTC desk got a consortium together for 5 blocks as well, min 10k coins.

+3000 coins in March. Both March winners won again then.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 10, 2015, 01:21:28 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 09, 2015, 11:32:43 PM

I really hope this is Stolfi's campus Cheesy

Brazilian University Accepts Bitcoin, Installs Campus ATM

Thank god, no. It is a minor private school in São Paulo, and the course is a weekend extension one.

Time to refurbish my warning blurb...

Sorry professor, I misspelled you. Fixed.

Here's our Stolfi:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable

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Bitcoin can currently handle up to 360,000 transactions per day given current limitations built into the technology, according to Jorge Stolfi, a computer science professor from Campinas University in Brazil, so there’s some headroom left before things bog down.

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/psyco-ukraine-dark-net-market-dead-drop/

One gram of speed—amphetamine sulfate is the kind of stuff that can induce euphoria, drench you in sweat, and skip your heartbeat—costs 250 Ukrainian Hryvnia ($11 US dollars) paid for in Bitcoin, a cheap buy for a big high.

fyi

A Bitcornucopian is a futurist who believes that continued progress and provision of material items for mankind can be met by similarly continued advances in technology. Fundamentally they believe that there is enough matter and energy on the Earth to provide for the ever-rising population of the world.

sauce

Quote from: barbs on November 10, 2015, 10:30:13 PM

I didn't even mention the run to 500 to my friends.

Bitcoin is embarrassing now. Sorry to the new guys who bought into the top of the pump.

One of my friends mentioned it to me. He sent me something along the lines of this: SELL SELL SELL!!!

Guess what I didn't?

We're only down 30 dollars from this time last year. Not bad Roll Eyes

Quote from: keewee on November 11, 2015, 12:07:52 AM

Sometimes it's worth looking at the long term trend. It's not all doom and gloom...

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Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 11, 2015, 12:52:47 AM

ohhhhh bitcoin.. lmao

Is it just me or do all those huge red candles resemble fuck-you fingers?

Idk. I see those everywhere Embarrassed

Quote from: ChartBuddy on November 11, 2015, 01:10:46 AM

Quote from: DieJohnny on November 11, 2015, 02:20:27 AM

At these moments, ChartBuddy is euphoric.

Grease fire? Throw water on it!!

Quote from: Torque on November 11, 2015, 02:15:55 AM

Why is this such a shock to you guys? Like I said, this whole pump was the work of probably one or a few whales.

Party's over, so he dumps. Not a shock.

Makes the bitcoin economy seem like a few dicks in a box

And not just in Japan where that sort of thing seems normal. But in real places, too Angry

Bitcoin is not a joke.

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Quote from: rpietila on November 11, 2015, 11:20:46 PM

How to cash out your swag. Step one: buy a silk hat.

Quote from: micky123 on November 12, 2015, 02:45:50 AM

It is now quite clear that this latest huge P & D was orchestrated by the USMS to ensure they got the maximum value out of the auction. Now that the auction is over, down we go! Thank goodness they have no more "seized" bitcoins to sell. Hopefully we will now see Bitcoin steadying itself.

This is actually probably the least likely of all possible explanations.

Quote from: dreamspark on November 12, 2015, 10:48:56 AM

This thread is mind boggling. Of course the markets are manipulated when only a few thousand of the same BTC are traded backwards and forwards. Trading is a self fulfiling prophecy and those that have the most clout can be wrong as well. Just look at how much those big whales lost on OKC in the last few days.

Of course the USMS didnt pump the price.

We over extended after finally breaking out of a year long range and we had a very healthy correction to retest old resistance areas. That simple.

Dont be suprised to be passing $500 in the next few weeks or to find ourselves a new range between 290-390.

Don't forget the little extra MMM global pyramid on top for flavour.

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2h PSAR flipped to bearish on BTCChina and Bitfinex.

Seems to be an unreliable indicator Wink

In this case, it was misleading... Angry

Oh shit...

Your short term technical indicators have no power here.

Kinda expected from a member who has bear avatar.

Nice to be back in over 330 again.

Sparta should be ancient history by now.

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That's how fiat money works -- it doesn't matter what the coin is made out of, USD isn't backed by copper. That said, the penny is one coin that actually costs more to make than its face value. It's not made out of zinc because can't afford copper.

Most people (other than batshit crazy brokeass goldbugs who can't afford gold) couldn't care less about what pennies are made of.

Actually, copper-clad zinc pennies are better than all-copper ones. If you try to melt one with a propane torch, well before the skin melts (m.p. 1357 C) the zinc will boil off (b.p. 907) and then burn with a bright flame and dense white smoke. That's fun.

Steel euro cents? That sounds quite boring.

Hope you're not doing this indoors. Welding zinc plated metal causes metal fume fever, actually burning zinc... I don't wanna know.

Careful of those brass shakes, professor!

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Quote from: ssmc2 on November 12, 2015, 11:44:06 PM

Looking very likely we're headed back to the 370-380 range to stabilize and begin a slow steady ascent again. Cool

Clearly learned nothing from your past disastrous mistakes and ...other self-inflicted tragedies.
Sad

@mb300sd: people weld galvanized steel all the time. Don't believe the hype

I've been there, never want to again. It was outdoors on my boat trailer too.

Horrible memories. Picking up a 40ft offshore racer ... on a rotting dunker trailer I had to weld up with nothing but a mig & a handgrinder.

Can you say that again but with hyphens?

^This guy

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Not that again Roll Eyes

No, not everything that gets laughed at [though the internet never was] eventually becomes outrageously popular. Most do not.

Bitcoin transactions are growing. Payment processors like Bitpay release stats that show increasing usage.

Payment processors like BitPay release stats that they're letting people go because faulty business model (see Fig. 1).

Fig. 1

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If you've bought at 3$ you are up 100 times and if you bought at 30$ you are up 10 times.

More like $7-$40 and sold at avg. $6xx, but what does this have to do with bitcoin not being a purely speculative asset and me being ridiculously lucky?

Why $6xx? On the way up, or the dead cat bounce after the peak? Any ideological reasons for the exit, or just gettin' while the gettin' was good?

Did you buy some fine british automobiles with the proceeds?? Wink

I'd love to know how lambie cashed out his swag. Fancy pad in the city with lots of couches is my guess.

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 13, 2015, 01:58:18 AM

Good afternoon Bitcoinland. Too busy to check in this morning.

Luckily I had time to rush out yesterday and buy some more coins at about $310. Better than paying $354 the day before I suppose.

Glad I saved some disposable cash in case the price went lower. Could still get a few more coins if the price dips even further but I think that's probably it. $300 seems to want to hold.

Bitcoin: it gets under the skin

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Good afternoon Bitcoinland. Too busy to check in this morning.

Luckily I had time to rush out yesterday and buy some more coins at about $310. Better than paying $354 the day before I suppose.

Glad I saved some disposable cash in case the price went lower. Could still get a few more coins if the price dips even further but I think that's probably it. $300 seems to want to hold.

Bitcoin: it gets under the skin

Sounds about right Wink

It's because the world is excited about BIP 0065. Can you blame them??

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Quote from: hdbuck on November 13, 2015, 11:12:11 PM

so bitcoin is pumping eh?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-13/kalashnikov-shootout-explosions-reported-paris

Terrorism rally?

Could be this. They are rallying their efforts in Paris right now. This will effect the price tomorrow morning after the fall out.

This will effect the price of what?? Wtf!

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Quote from: hdbuck on November 13, 2015, 11:12:11 PM

so bitcoin is pumping eh?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-13/kalashnikov-shootout-explosions-reported-paris

Terrorism rally?

Could be this. They are rallying their efforts in Paris right now. This will effect the price tomorrow morning after the fall out.

This will effect the price of what?? Wtf!

US equity futures

Do you have mental problems?

Quote from: MatTheCat on November 14, 2015, 01:10:48 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on November 14, 2015, 01:08:45 AM

It's just been tweeted that my grandma has had a successful double dick arrangement grafted on in Pyongyang. There's your reason to rally.

No!

That is the reason for the correction!

The pump was clearly the reason for the terror attack. You heathens!

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 12, 2015, 05:40:04 PM

>340 after lunch. Grin

What did you have for lunch? Crow tartare with a helping of humble pie for desert?

How are we doing on that humble pie? Can I get you an extra helping, or are you ready for the check?

Sir, You can't live here. Either order more crow or go away. Haven't you got some other place to sleep?
We're starting to feel a bit put-upon.

Sir, I've been elected to approach you about a lambie AMA. We all have so many srs questions!

Quote from: controltower on November 14, 2015, 01:40:00 AM

Sry no, not after what you guys gone and done in Paris Shocked

I happen to know that most of the people here were dumping. But the world machines along Cry

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Quote from: FrostStick on November 14, 2015, 03:16:13 AM

Lol. We have seen it at over 400 just a week or so before, how isn't 390 possible? Huh?

You can bet if we see another unexpected rise the powers that bit will drop tens of thousands of coins on its head again. We're on a short leash here.

The oracle speaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoS7tKKKmk

And a thread about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sqw8b/cubicearth_finally_identifies_the_problem_with/

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The owls are not what they seem.

No. Damn fine coffee tho.

BlindMayorBitcorn using ChartBuddy's avatar is getting confusing. All the posts on the previous page looked like they were by the same person because there was only the two of them posting. BlindMayorBitcorn's been changing his avatar every other day this week so if we get lucky he could change it again today.

I get bored easy Embarrassed

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Quote from: poncho32 on November 14, 2015, 11:13:07 AM

BlindMayorBitcorn using ChartBuddy's avatar is getting confusing. All the posts on the previous page looked like they were by the same person because there was only the two of them posting. BlindMayorBitcorn's been changing his avatar every other day this week so if we get lucky he could change it again today.

I get bored easy Embarrassed

I have been using the same avatar for almost 3 years. Feel free to use it if you like

BTW I didn't notice your last change till somebody pointed it out Tongue

My posts are less substantial than yours. I need gimmicks.

Waka waka.

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Hoppe writes that towns and villages could have warning signs saying "no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no homosexuals, drug users, Jews, Moslems, Germans, or Zulus"."[/i]

How bitcoiny!

"Nigger, Don't Let The Sun Set On YOU In Hoppethorne"

Thanks for quoting Fatman...Not! I have him on ignore for a reason...

No wonder Fatman has such an issue with helping homeless ppl!

Funny thing is homeless has a dual meaning...it also means the retail homeless beggars looking for advice from the seasoned institutional professionals! Fatman is homeless and doesn't even know it!

Cheers Cool

Gemini trades rolled back. Cheesy

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3ss6kr/gemini_is_reversing_trades_wtf/

Quote from: var53 on November 14, 2015, 06:41:23 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 14, 2015, 06:03:48 PM

Gemini trades rolled back. Cheesy

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3ss6kr/gemini_is_reversing_trades_wtf/

So those traders who sold at $2000 and thought Christmas had come early get screwed. If Gemini had a safety mechanism the error wouldn't have happened, It should compensate the traders who lost out. Bter has a warning box when you place an order with an excessive price. If Bter can do it, Gemini should have done it.

It goes to show, there really is zero reason to ever sit fiat on an exchange.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 14, 2015, 08:48:09 PM

@JJG

Sorry 'bout the reversal and stuff, but:

"...and goes to show really bad judgement in their lack of credibility-building foresight."

How do you build these amazing sentences?

What does it even mean?

Do you work for an insurance company?

He can have one of my extra-hyphens. Seems to help a little Cheesy

Quote from: Divitiae miserae on November 14, 2015, 10:51:28 PM

Bull trap or proper lift-off?

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 14, 2015, 10:56:57 PM

oops, forgot to warn u guise

You make a terrible watcher Angry

Quote from: controltower on November 14, 2015, 11:18:14 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 14, 2015, 11:13:51 PM

A lot of big money doing a lot of dumb things. Surprise, surprise Roll Eyes

Each time i start thinking that someone with x1000 more money than me is doing dumb things to make money...

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How did you make this cool retro "kitt 2000" graphics?

Just simple gd library stuff.

You! You are the chart buddy! Cheesy

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 15, 2015, 03:05:23 PM

Cheap coins!

If this touches below 315 y'all need to throw everything at it & gobble up some very cheap coins.

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"Mr. Colon claims he's a victim, too. He says he was trying to deal in something called Bit-coin, which I don't understand..."

http://www.coindesk.com/judge-judy-meets-bitcoin-amid-payment-fraud-allegations/

Quote from: nioc on November 15, 2015, 08:32:12 PM

Welcome to the troll observer thread Grin

I would like to troll please. Thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R6Lzi3B1wk

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Can't wait

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"Mr. Colon claims he's a victim, too. He says he was trying to deal in something called Bit-coin, which I don't understand..."

http://www.coindesk.com/judge-judy-meets-bitcoin-amid-payment-fraud-allegations/

She claims to have tried a case where a woman sent a picture of an iphone instead of an actual iphone "a decade ago".

Wouldn't that be industrial espionage, not fraud?

@LFC

Very few years

Ever consider that all the technical advances necessary for the APPL revolution were actually made possible on the public dime? Governments and universities innovate with our money, then corporate interests get to repackage the fruits and sell them back to us in shiny colors.

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"Mr. Colon claims he's a victim, too. He says he was trying to deal in something called Bit-coin, which I don't understand..."

http://www.coindesk.com/judge-judy-meets-bitcoin-amid-payment-fraud-allegations/

She claims to have tried a case where a woman sent a picture of an iphone instead of an actual iphone "a decade ago".

Wouldn't that be industrial espionage, not fraud?

@LFC

Very few years

Ever consider that all the technical advances necessary for the APPL revolution were actually made possible on the public dime? Governments and universities innovate with our money, then corporate interests get to repackage the fruits and sell them back to us in shiny colors.

Have you ever tried getting your grandmother to use a version of UNIX that isn't Apple?

Packaging matters.

lol

Lookit! Can we please just come to some sort of consensus about what is going to happen in the immediate future regarding the price? It seems to me we would all stand to benefit under such an arrangement.

Attention alert! BitJohn has left Cryptsy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg12984497;topicseen#msg12984497

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 16, 2015, 11:36:10 PM

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http://insidebitcoins.com/news/andreas-antonopoulos-trolls-are-disrupting-bitcoin-development/35829

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According to Antonopoulos, the possible fracturing of the Bitcoin community as a whole could be partially due to paid trolls who work for various government agencies around the world.

Fucking lambie, the most disruptive technology ever!

lmao!

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http://insidebitcoins.com/news/andreas-antonopoulos-trolls-are-disrupting-bitcoin-development/35829

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According to Antonopoulos, the possible fracturing of the Bitcoin community as a whole could be partially due to paid trolls who work for various government agencies around the world.

Fucking lambie, the most disruptive technology ever!

lmao!

So Gmaxwell blaims trolls for Core's inability to get their act together? How does that work? If their sensitive minds break down with 4-billion-usd-market-cap-trolling (...catching air, I need to lose weight), how will they hold up at 40b?

Disclaimer: I am not paid for this service. This is freebie trolling.

Get their act together?

We just had a milestone development today https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3t0kff/core_switched_to_libsecp256k1_for_verification/

You have to end with a disclaimer. That's how it works now.

Core just released OP_HODL. That's a milestone too, I guess.

Tbh the politics of developing and maintaining an open-source protocol is one of the most puzzling things about Bitcoin.

Disclaimer: I know almost nothing.

Quote from: ImI on November 17, 2015, 12:11:50 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 16, 2015, 11:51:01 PM

GhostSec, a hacktivist off-shoot of Anonymous, has claimed to have followed a chain of transactions and found a Bitcoin wallet containing $3 million which they say is linked to the self-proclaimed Islamic State terror group and Friday’s Paris attacks.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030223381/paris-attackers-alleged-bitcoin-wallet.html#ixzz3rhXvubak

other source? sputnik is usually crap.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ghostsec-isis-bitcoin-wallet-worth-3-million/

https://mymeedia.com/stages/tech/post/23833744_6246378

Quote from: Dotto on November 17, 2015, 12:29:25 AM

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Quote from: ImI on November 17, 2015, 12:11:50 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 16, 2015, 11:51:01 PM

GhostSec, a hacktivist off-shoot of Anonymous, has claimed to have followed a chain of transactions and found a Bitcoin wallet containing $3 million which they say is linked to the self-proclaimed Islamic State terror group and Friday’s Paris attacks.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030223381/paris-attackers-alleged-bitcoin-wallet.html#ixzz3rhXvubak

other source? sputnik is usually crap.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ghostsec-isis-bitcoin-wallet-worth-3-million/

https://mymeedia.com/stages/tech/post/23833744_6246378

Do you think terrorists are more of bitfenix or bearstamp?

Would they use leveraging?

It would be comic if it wouln't be dramatic...

Well, I doubt they market bought those coins. Unless that was the pump. Um?

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 17, 2015, 12:36:07 AM

Quote from: ImI on November 17, 2015, 12:11:50 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 16, 2015, 11:51:01 PM

GhostSec, a hacktivist off-shoot of Anonymous, has claimed to have followed a chain of transactions and found a Bitcoin wallet containing $3 million which they say is linked to the self-proclaimed Islamic State terror group and Friday’s Paris attacks.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030223381/paris-attackers-alleged-bitcoin-wallet.html#ixzz3rhXvubak

other source? sputnik is usually crap.

it's hard to believe they got 3million dollars of donations they must of been playing with bitcoins for years.
maybe they were selling their drugs on SR or something...

if the whole network agrees we can take their funds..

i think that would be cool to see.

I think some hardcore bitcoiners would go ape shit and maybe fork off.

hey that would be a good way to get rid of all the trolls

I was thinking we could locate the privkeys somehow and air-strike 'em?

Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2015, 12:57:32 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 17, 2015, 12:51:38 AM

How hard would it be to black-bag the entire developer community and force them to fork those coins out of existence?

Irrelevant. How hard would it be to force a majority of the broader bitcoin community to adopt this fork that was sure to tank the value of their precious to $0.00?

Good question. Idk.

I mention it only because I think it could be interesting, obviously; I don't think it's significant.

Ok. Back on topic, people!

Quote from: Dotto on November 17, 2015, 02:04:46 AM

BREAKING THROUGH

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 17, 2015, 02:00:21 AM

hory shet

it really is a pump on all exchanges at once.

+1
All buys at same second!!

I'm glad someone was paying attention. I'm more an ideas man. Tongue

Quote from: GreekGeek on November 17, 2015, 02:42:05 AM

Hey guys
just got back from a party, and I see this....! Grin

any reasons for that?

Sometimes you burn the beer...

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Quote from: MatTheCat on November 17, 2015, 09:28:46 PM

..our governments need to take away all our civil liberties in order to protect us from the extremists (that they let in)

They tell us it was complex military planning and the internet/encryption is to blame (George Osbourne today). But to me it was 8 blokes meeting in a cafe and agreeing to die at 11pm. They synchronised watches. How complicated is that ? It went on before encrypted network communications, and it will happen after. Except after, we'll all be compromised - and powerless.

Quote from: MatTheCat on November 17, 2015, 09:28:46 PM

Furthermore, having a significant minority population that is at odds with the values of the society in which it is implented, should prove a fucking fantastic scapegoat for the great unwashed, when the music finally stops playing

Yes - spot on. You'd think that by the extremely small numbers of people that actually seem to get it, that it was rocket science or something.

A newly released study agrees. It found no increase in encrypted communications among jihadist networks.

https://fpjintel.com/public-reports/measuring-the-impact-of-the-snowden-leaks-on-the-use-of-encryption-by-online-jihadists/

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Online jihadists were already aware that law enforcement and intelligence agencies were attempting to monitor them, the Snowden revelations likely merely confirmed the suspicions of many of these actors, the more advanced of which were already making use of—and developing—secure communications software.

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... You better hope there are enough people like me left.

I do, I do! With all the mud people getting them fancy degrees and wantin' high-payin' jobs, who else is gonna be left to dig my ditches and run that fryer at Mc. D's?

So basically you are just as racist as anyone else...

Everyone is a racist. Just a matter of degree and direction (towards outsiders, or your own race).

There is no scientific validity to the idea of different human races.

The concept of human races began during the Spanish Inquisition (around 1480), when a purity of blood decree was established and those converting to Christianity (or converses) needed to prove their Christian origins.

Do you even science, bro Huh

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Quote from: Ibian on November 18, 2015, 12:46:06 AM

... You better hope there are enough people like me left.

I do, I do! With all the mud people getting them fancy degrees and wantin' high-payin' jobs, who else is gonna be left to dig my ditches and run that fryer at Mc. D's?

So basically you are just as racist as anyone else...

Everyone is a racist. Just a matter of degree and direction (towards outsiders, or your own race).

muslim youngsters migrating to europe wants to breed your sisters and daughters. its a breeding war.

Correct. And whites are breeding at sub-replacement levels as it is. We really do not have any other choice but to throw them out or die out in about 50 years, give or take.

Here monkey, join us in the 20th century:

People with "similar" skin color might have very different shapes of nose due to different adaptations to climate. These differences are called "clines." Clines are genetic adaptations to environmental factors over a geographic area; different genetic adaptations over different geographical regions. There are no specific races and clinal differences vary in different ways. As was said earlier by anthropologist Livingstone (1962) among humans: "there are no races, there are only clines."

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ChartBuddy must be all like, wtf did I just read. Roll Eyes

At least my last post ended back on topic.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 18, 2015, 04:31:12 PM

The sooner we're all coffee-coloured androids the better. Then we can move on into the stars and find some folks we're united in wanting to discriminate against.

Them vermin on Tatooine got to be the first to go. They're taking our women and jobs!!

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Not sure about dominant/recessive genes, frankly don't give a flying fuck. What I do give a fuck about is the pitch-black ignorant pasty faggots who obsess about shit like racial purity.
As far as Bitcoin being racist? Not sure what you mean. Appears that plenty of bitcoiners sure are

Thank you for giving away the origin of your anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop / 5000 other fake aliases". Pushing a constant anti-Bitcoin, pro-fiat agenda, while also being vehemently pro-cultural Marxism. I was starting to believe someone like the Russian government was funding anti-Bitcoin spammers, but this is obviously not the case. Very few groups on earth fit the profile you put out, especially ones that become enraged by their cultural marxist views being challenged. It's easy to tell where these spam accounts are originating from and being funded by now.

I'm not anti-bitcoin. I'm anti ignorant, angry faggots like you, who use words they don't understand to prop up their idiotic, paranoid world views.
You see conspiracies and plots everywhere, because it's the only way for you to explain how you came to be such a fucking failure, without having to acknowledge the obvious, begging answer: because you fucking suck

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude.

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on November 18, 2015, 07:03:20 PM

Between the sociopathic trolls and paranoid tinfoils, I am starting to wonder why I hang around here.

I know I came for the waters.

I was misinformed. Sad

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What the fuck are 'supermodel genes'? So you think the white kid is pretty and the other isn't. That is totally subjective.

Contrary to what fat pride and other whacko groups try to claim, "beauty" is not even close to entirely subjective. Symmetry and attributes that define health are obvious objective standards of looks, probably plenty more exist. I hate to break it to you, but the world in general will unanimously agree which child received the supermodel genes and which didn't.

Since the Caucasian genes are recessive, this is how it turns out nearly every single time in these kinds of offspring, the child looks nothing like the white parent. From a strict biological and natural selection point of view, the purpose of reproduction is solely to spread your genes into the future. In the scenario above, what she has done is basically pass on her genes as non-influential junk DNA, while the African genes determined almost the entire outcome of the child where it doesn't resemble one of the parents at all.

Of course there will be tons of Marxists coming along to claim that mentioning African genes are dominant and Caucasian and Asian genes are recessive is "da raycism", because it doesn't take a genius to figure out that whatever genes compromise the recessive groups would basically be made extinct by full integration between all groups. This infuriates the common Marxist because it blows the lid off their fake narrative where those groups of people tend to constantly push for things like conservation of variety in animal species, yet they would be pushing for the exact opposite in this case, the extinction of the recessive groups on purpose.

Bottom line: Klum is still totally bangable.

You mean Heidi. Right?

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Quote from: bitukptvcser on November 18, 2015, 04:52:58 PM

Not sure about dominant/recessive genes, frankly don't give a flying fuck. What I do give a fuck about is the pitch-black ignorant pasty faggots who obsess about shit like racial purity.
As far as Bitcoin being racist? Not sure what you mean. Appears that plenty of bitcoiners sure are

Thank you for giving away the origin of your anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop / 5000 other fake aliases". Pushing a constant anti-Bitcoin, pro-fiat agenda, while also being vehemently pro-cultural Marxism. I was starting to believe someone like the Russian government was funding anti-Bitcoin spammers, but this is obviously not the case. Very few groups on earth fit the profile you put out, especially ones that become enraged by their cultural marxist views being challenged. It's easy to tell where these spam accounts are originating from and being funded by now.

I'm not anti-bitcoin. I'm anti ignorant, angry faggots like you, who use words they don't understand to prop up their idiotic, paranoid world views.
You see conspiracies and plots everywhere, because it's the only way for you to explain how you came to be such a fucking failure, without having to acknowledge the obvious, begging answer: because you fucking suck

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude.

I did some reading. Recent studies suggest it isn't a lack of competence that biases people to overestimate their intellectual abilities. It's just pure, good old fashioned narcissism. Food for thought.

http://www.columbia.edu/~da358/publications/ames_kammrath_mindreading.pdf

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Quote from: CoinCube on November 18, 2015, 11:43:02 PM

As the father of 3 mixed children myself (wife is Asian and I am white) I have to call you out on this.

You misquoted me entirely. I said both Caucasian and Asian genes are recessive compared to African genes. You being white and marrying an Asian woman (wow, who would have guessed nerdy white guys obssesed with Asian women on a Bitcoin forum???) doesn't really have anything to do with what I typed. There's plenty of half white, half asian girls that can pass for full white or full asian. Neither group's traits completely obliterate the others making one of the participants seemingly function only as junk DNA.

You still have no idea how recessive and dominant genes work. Maybe you should do some reading. And stop being an asshole.

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Quote from: CoinCube on November 18, 2015, 11:43:02 PM

As the father of 3 mixed children myself (wife is Asian and I am white) I have to call you out on this.

You misquoted me entirely. I said both Caucasian and Asian genes are recessive compared to African genes. You being white and marrying an Asian woman (wow, who would have guessed nerdy white guys obssesed with Asian women on a Bitcoin forum???) doesn't really have anything to do with what I typed. There's plenty of half white, half asian girls that can pass for full white or full asian. Neither group's traits completely obliterate the others making one of the participants seemingly function only as junk DNA.

You still have no idea how recessive and dominant genes work. Maybe you should do some reading. And stop being an asshole.

Hey u guise isn't this hawt!

NO! Gawd

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 19, 2015, 01:36:28 AM

I'm beginning to think we are all getting trolled by "la cucaracha" Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 19, 2015, 12:49:34 AM

NO! Gawd

If every race is identical, why do races outside of Africa have Neanderthal DNA? Why do blacks have 20% higher blood testosterone level? Why do Asians seem to test lowest for psychopathic character traits? Even men and women from the same ethnic group aren't similar. Claiming people from different groups are identical is just hilarious.

It's always the far leftists pulling this crap too. A bias to support their ideology of collectivism. Nevermind the fact that liberalism is inherently a mental disorder based on inferiority complex where you can only relate with groups deemed weak, inferior, or underdogs in general. It's a shame the political and social narative of the modern world is shaped entirely by people with mental disorders.

A fucking good post and I agree with everything you said!

Now, if only the world could sort out it's Jewish Problem once and for all!

And the fags and Catholics are next.

Quote from: ssmc2 on November 20, 2015, 12:54:13 AM

Really bears? That's it??

Try speaking European maybe?

Are we stress testing again?

Quote from: r0ach on November 20, 2015, 02:11:51 AM

The last name appears to be Polish in origin, and there are many Jews who also have that last name, so it's just your typical, Jewish, pro-central banking, anti-all alternatives shills.

I've uncovered that her associate spammers that are creating hundreds of anti-bitcoin spam accounts per day are also Jewish in origin. What a hilariously predictable outcome. Lambchop is also likely a lesbian from her aggressive anti-male attitude, which is another reason she hates Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is entirely male.

Because when even your cat is probably a nazi Embarrassed

IS just lost a shit-tonne of money. How much you think those pop-can schweppes-bombs cost, like if you buy in bulk?

Anyway, one small step for man...ccmf.

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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/chamber-digital-commerce-urges-g7-not-overreact-paris-attacks-stifling-bitcoin/

The problem is they probably won't hear it because the actual reason to limit bitcoin usage has nothing to do with IS or terrorists.

...?

You're new here. What brand of conspiracy theorist are you?

No conspiracy theorist just being realistic.

But if i where one i would tell you Europe has already been sold of to IS in some way. Everything is going to shit here and fast. Islamic fractions will find their way into our governments soon as they get elected by the vast majority of the Muslims that are present in all the countries in the EU. Already everything is working backwards in the Netherlands. We are not allowed to protest, the borders will be kept open, asylum seekers will get max protection and can do as they like. Hell they can even marry 9 year old children here because they are Muslim.
The EU gave Turkey a vast amount of money to keep more asylum seekers there. Their leader Erdogan buys his oil daily and directly with the IS.
But then again that shit has nothing to do with bitcoin so in here it's irrelevant Roll Eyes

Ugh... That brand.

I stopped being surprised yesterday. Embarrassed

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Quote from: 8up on November 20, 2015, 07:47:29 AM

Anyone remember September 2013? Are we there yet? Come on guys - I need a little more panic to fill my orders. Grin

Oh yeah, sure sure. Bull trolls have been saying we're in the "Sept 2013 phase" for like 12 months now. Roll Eyes

Trolls say a lot of things. The trick is selective listening.

Quote from: cbeast on November 20, 2015, 03:26:16 PM

Quote from: DaRude on November 20, 2015, 03:22:40 PM

Are you saying that bitcoin might die Shocked

... again?

Bitcoin price is barely over the 2013 high now that we are going into 2016 soon. Aside from some gasps and fraudulent manipulations, it looks like it's going down for good.

Add cbeast to the list. That one hurts. Cry

Quote from: Ibian on November 20, 2015, 04:28:18 PM

Satoshi obviously won't let bitcoin just die off. These people are extremely professional and have a plan.

Satoshi won't save you.

Because you're racist. Sorry.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 20, 2015, 08:29:39 PM

Bitcoin XT is officially ded...

http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/11/20/bitcoin-core-developer-joins-blockchain-consortium.html

Anybody read the whitepaper yet?

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55f73743e4b051cfcc0b02cf/t/564ca429e4b0a9e90a947ba2/1447863337472/Watermarked-tokens-and-pseudonymity-on-public-blockchains-Swanson.pdf

Thoughts?

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 20, 2015, 08:41:27 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 20, 2015, 08:29:39 PM

Bitcoin XT is officially ded...

http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/11/20/bitcoin-core-developer-joins-blockchain-consortium.html

Anybody read the whitepaper yet?

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55f73743e4b051cfcc0b02cf/t/564ca429e4b0a9e90a947ba2/1447863337472/Watermarked-tokens-and-pseudonymity-on-public-blockchains-Swanson.pdf

Thoughts?

Welp. I'm reading it now. He's right. Colouring coins is bad idea.

He's a thinker, that's for sure.

Quote from: cbeast on November 21, 2015, 12:22:40 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 21, 2015, 12:13:51 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 20, 2015, 08:41:27 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 20, 2015, 08:29:39 PM

Bitcoin XT is officially ded...

http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/11/20/bitcoin-core-developer-joins-blockchain-consortium.html

Anybody read the whitepaper yet?

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55f73743e4b051cfcc0b02cf/t/564ca429e4b0a9e90a947ba2/1447863337472/Watermarked-tokens-and-pseudonymity-on-public-blockchains-Swanson.pdf

Thoughts?

Welp. I'm reading it now. He's right. Colouring coins is bad idea.

He's a thinker, that's for sure.

Depending on what you are doing, colored coins may be better if traceable.

Adding exogenous value onto a network that cannot detect and dynamically protect the exogenous value. I never thought of it in those terms before tho.

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The metacoins and colored coin projects listed above unquestionably increase the social value
of the chain, yet they do not proportionally incentivize security beyond the existing block
reward (seigniorage) subsidy. This could lead to an economic incentive to attack the chain, a
type of fat tail risk that could dramatically impact any layer residing on top of the Bitcoin
network.69

Quote from: makeacake on November 21, 2015, 12:32:11 AM

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LOL!!

That Kaminska lady is better than lambie!

Lol.

Drole

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 21, 2015, 09:34:45 AM

Things really got heated, didn't they?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3t21dh/dangerous_homebrew_cryptography_in_blockstream/cx586r1?context=3

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u/nullic: If what I am told about your affiliations is correct, your failure to disclose them clearly is unethical.

Looks like something's happening amongst the Knights of The Round Table. I really don't understand all this. Just give a working BTC I don't care about all the disputes. Is that so difficult? You see when the human part comes into place, everything goes nuts

But working how? And for how many, at what costs and with what trade-offs? If I'm not mistaken these are complicated, deep-principled disagreements. I still go back and forth.

Enough with the chit-chat. Let's do this thing.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 20, 2015, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: r0ach on November 20, 2015, 02:11:51 AM

The last name appears to be Polish in origin, and there are many Jews who also have that last name, so it's just your typical, Jewish, pro-central banking, anti-all alternatives shills.

I've uncovered that her associate spammers that are creating hundreds of anti-bitcoin spam accounts per day are also Jewish in origin. What a hilariously predictable outcome. Lambchop is also likely a lesbian from her aggressive anti-male attitude, which is another reason she hates Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is entirely male.

Because when even your cat is probably a nazi Embarrassed

The law has been repealed. We're free!!

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/donald-trump-nazi/

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Quote from: galdur on November 21, 2015, 10:48:40 PM

Don´t recall calling it a false flag. Why don´t you show me where I´m supposed to have done that.

So you're not? Sorry, confused you with someone in this thread. Apologies.

You should take a gander at what's happening in this thread. Wild stuff, man.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 22, 2015, 01:49:23 AM

look like we might see 350 on monday

Maybe 360, but later on in the day

370 by sunset, definitely.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 22, 2015, 12:28:52 PM

There are eyes that cannot see
And fingers that cannot touch
That's the way of the world Sad

There are dreams left empty and blank
And legs that have ceased to walk
That's the way of the world Sad

--

There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on November 22, 2015, 11:34:12 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 22, 2015, 04:06:10 PM

Explanation AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Vey noice!!!!

Those were the days.

Circle, Bitreserve, and BitPay are turning their backs on bitcoin

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The future, according to CEO Jeremy Allaire, lies in using the technology that underpins technology, called the blockchain, to make sending any form of money as easy as sending an email. He didn't want to talk about bitcoin.

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Uphold CEO Anthony Watson told me at the time of the relaunch: "When we say bit, we don’t mean bitcoin, we never did. We meant bit as is bits and bytes and reserve is obviously holding the value. But people are confused, they think we’re just a bitcoin company and it makes sense as our first use case was bitcoin."

Parasites.

Quote from: podyx on November 22, 2015, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 22, 2015, 04:06:10 PM

Circle, Bitreserve, and BitPay are turning their backs on bitcoin

They say they are interested in the blockchain technology, but it doesn't work without tokens.

We've heard this one so many times before Roll Eyes

Permissioned blockchains. They'll have tokens of their own.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 24, 2015, 12:29:01 AM

Quote from: Dilla on November 23, 2015, 08:27:58 PM

Bitcoin ceo huh?

The CEO of Bitcoin is a VERY discrete person. So discrete that its very existence is known only to a handful of people in a certain powerful agency, whose existence too is a well-guarded secret.

But we can infer that he exists. Otherwise, who whould have signed Satoshi Nakamoto's contract?

Has he frozen those ISIS coins yet?

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 22, 2015, 06:55:20 PM

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Quote from: podyx on November 22, 2015, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 22, 2015, 04:06:10 PM

Circle, Bitreserve, and BitPay are turning their backs on bitcoin

They say they are interested in the blockchain technology, but it doesn't work without tokens.

Permissioned blockchains. They'll have tokens of their own.

They don't need tokens. The bitcoin network needs tokens in order to pay the miners, who are anonymous and scattered all over the world. In a "permissioned ledger" (i.e., a distributed mirrored decentralized tamper-resistant database for a closed set of non-anonymous, legally bound entities), transaction processing would be done by the member entities, for whom the service would be compensation enough; and/or by external contractors, who would get paid in dollars through banks, the old-fashioned way.

Thus a "permissioned ledger" does not need tokens or proof-of-work. It remaisn to be seen whether it will have a use for any of the other distinctive features of the Bitcoin protocol.

Some kind of POS then?

Poor moderators tilting at windmills. Lambie is practically a part of the software.

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Quote from: Richy_T on November 24, 2015, 05:05:02 PM

If only this site had a competent owner. How did he manage to get a stranglehold on the major forms of Bitcoin communication?

There's a new Wall Observer thread over on the Bitco.in forums, I'm sure people would love to see Chartbuddy (and anyone else interested) there. Lambies not welcome

https://bitco.in/forum/threads/wall-observer.27/

I've been there. It isn't funny.

Quote from: Consstance on November 25, 2015, 04:15:02 PM

OKCoin Restricts Bitcoin Trading For US Customers Shocked

...the sound of the first turdlet hitting the fan Cry

http://themerkle.com/news/bitcoin-futures-trading-ok-okcoin-no-longer-possible-for-us-customers/

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Don’t be mistaken in thinking the decision by OKCoin will have a major impact on the Bitcoin price anytime soon. Most of the trading volume is still originating from China, and they can dictate the price for quite some time to come. However, as US traders are left with little to no options to influence the price by themselves, a new paradigm could be created.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 25, 2015, 03:59:33 PM

I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners" listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

Flashback: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-chilean-libertarian-paradise/

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People have been stung by scams involving bitcoin recently, so many may be reluctant to part with such a large amount of currency for a slice of a community that some would say sounds too good to be true.
"Those who have been to our Spring Celebration, and/or have toured our project, know that the project is not a scam and is quite real," said Johnson.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 25, 2015, 10:14:57 PM

Edan Yago (CEO of Epiphyte) at the 2013 Bitcoin conference

He reveals that the host country of the project was supposed to be Honduras, in his reply to one of the first questions.

Well, no. At that point, he is clearly referring to an earlier attempt on the part of his group. The one that fell through when the Honduran Supreme Court overturned the constitutional changes that would have allowed the project to happen therein. See 7:00 - "when ... interests in Honduras .. rejected the plan, it was a bitter defeat. But Honduras was not the only country we were negotiating with. Queitly we have been working with a different country on a different project"

What is it with crypto and Honduras?

https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/3h3n90/factom_doesnt_have_commitment_from_honduran/

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 25, 2015, 11:54:14 PM

Quote from: aztecminer on November 25, 2015, 11:45:13 PM

i have decided since i cant make a profit being with bitcoin because of the manipulation, i will make a profit another way... i got the mad skillz... its called paybacks .

You can make a great profit if you're willing to HODL & wait a year or two.
It's no different to a fixed rate bank bond....oh actually it is, they give you 2% interest on your savings per year. In 2 years bitcoin's value SHOULD be at least 100% more than it is now.

If we start serving cockamamie in this thread I'm taking my business elsewhere.

Bitcoin's a wild ride with no safety-net and no guarantees. You are promised nothing.

Bring extra pants.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 26, 2015, 03:38:17 PM

Much volatile Grin

Bitcoin giveth and Bitcoin taketh away

Preach, hommie.

Good news for the gormless Gavinistas among us.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/gavin-andresen-i-might-take-over-lead-of-bitcoin-xt-1448486445

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on November 26, 2015, 11:11:56 PM

I see you lot have been wilding again while I was away.

Quote from: Dotto on November 26, 2015, 11:26:22 PM

This thing is going up again Grin

As well it should.

Back it up boys.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-asked-a-neuroscientist-how-bitcoins-highs-and-lows-affect-the-brain

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This neuroscience might, at least in part, explain some of Bitcoin’s notorious highs and lows. Bitcoin still maintains a relatively small community of human users, at least compared to real-world stock markets. And while automated trading bots for Bitcoin certainly do exist—and according to Andrew Barisser, a developer at Bitcoin company Assembly who made his own trading bot earlier this year, some exchanges are “rife” with them—their widespread use in Bitcoin is nowhere nearly as well-documented as in the stock market.

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lots of sweet deals this year.

OP, sorry if I asked in the wrong thread, just don't want to start booting Lip Balm if it's not good for me.
Have you tried Lip Balm yourself? Is it any good?

yes works a must have in the winter.

32$ gift box is a deal and a half, and i'm not sure if that is with the -20% discount

So IV no prob? Just skim off the wax when I cook it, draw from the bottom?

ya

I'm not sure this is the best advice, actually. Cheesy

If not him it would be someone else. Best to know how bad things can get.

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Quote from: rafanadal on November 29, 2015, 01:23:49 PM

cant access blockchain.info
for some reason
it's still giving me this page cant be displayed

working for me...

They are obviously under DDOS attack.

Another bitcoin extortion scheme, no doubt. When bitcoiners not pitching bitcoin to friends and family, or stealing bitcoins from friends and family, they DDoS so-called 'Bitcoin businesses' with their bitcoin botnets.
I tell you... Angry

Kids these days. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Lincoln6Echo on November 29, 2015, 05:51:30 PM

@Chartbuddy: Nice Avatar!

Is BlindMayorBitcorn related to ChartBuddy? I liked the HAL theme, but there is something deliciously ironic about Brother Ray with 3D shades.

Whoever does run ChartBuddy - thanx for the occasional alternate gifs. They almost always elicit a little chuckle.

I believe Ricky_T is responsible for ChartBuddy?

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 29, 2015, 01:31:22 AM

It was a rather surreal experience.

I first learned of bitcoin sometime in October or November 2013, when Rick Falkvinge (founder of the Swedish Pirate Party) tweeted that he was putting all his savings into bitcoin ("but this is not investment advice"). I did not pay attention at that time.

Then he tweeted again about bitcoin while the big crash was in progress. He was furious because, halfway through the crash, MtGox's ticker started replaying the same trades over and over again. (I never found out whether it was a bug, or an intentional desperate attempt by Mark to stop the crash by posting fake prices.) That is when I started digging into the topic in earnest. (I had just given up on following the Fukushima accident, after i learned that the data I had been plotting and studying for 3 months was totally meaningless readings from broken instruments. Perhaps I needed some other disaster to fill the void. Grin

)

Later still, in December 2013 or early 2014, Rick wrote that he had a six figure amount in euros locked up in MtGOX, which he was unable to withdraw. I gather that he managed to withdraw some of it eventually, before MtGOX folded for good. Yet, last time I checked, he was still positive about bitcoin. There is a man of strong convictions...

People saw the entire financial system basically implode under its own weight and rampant mortgage/debt security fraud in 2008. They watched as governments scrambled to postpone the inevitable by printing and injecting trillions of dollars (mortgages against the productivity of future generations) into the very entities that made it happen while profiting from it.

Last I checked, people are still using those same (further debased) FRN iou's... strong convictions.

Now, if the Bitcoin network magically issued 600k coins to bail out the creditors of mtgox, while diluting the value of the coins held by people who didn't keep them in an obviously failing bucket shop, and got Karpeles a massive bonus in the process (and maybe giving pirateat40 commit access to the github)... we might have a good analogy.

Bazinga!

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 30, 2015, 12:10:38 AM

<snip>
The Chinese MMM ponzi and its copycats still seem to be prime suspects.
</snip>

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Quote from: peonminer on November 29, 2015, 05:24:53 PM

fuckin newbs with you fuckin degenerate spam fuck you

go have a beta uprising or some shit

BTC looking healthy, large correction is due soon, then moon

Says the guy constantly spamming with img links etc etc... Not sure why you aren't banned, you've been discussed in meta before as a spammer already... Roll Eyes

Who hasn't been discussed in meta? Roll Eyes

Quote from: aminorex on November 30, 2015, 03:47:20 PM

Monkey likes BTC for the next 5 days at least.

Quote from: ImI on November 30, 2015, 07:39:04 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3uu3we/bitstamp_will_switch_to_bip_101_this_december/cxi370c?context=3

astonishing that we see this little bull run although we have this kiddy nerd fight going on at the same time

Even the mods are lining up against him. Is he on the wrong side of history here?

I think the acid is kicking in now....

Hold on guys. I have something to say about bitcoin. Hold on. Hold...

UP

Today in Bitcoin: https://www.rt.com/business/324107-greece-banks-hackers-bitcoin/

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At least three Greek banks have been hit by cyber-attacks from a group of hackers demanding a bitcoin ransom. The group called Armada Collective threatened to disrupt the banks’ electronic transactions unless each paid a 20,000 bitcoin ($7 million) ransom.

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Quote from: peonminer on December 01, 2015, 06:18:35 PM

oprahfail.gif

Everybody in the front row today is getting ... hot knives! You get a hot knife! And you get a hot knife! And you get a hot knife! Everybody gets hot knives!

I'll up you one

https://www.hardcoreanal.com/gay/bikerfuckedinass/view?=175_ghy_tllp

Um. I'm not clicking on this unless you can guarantee I won't see hardcore anal biker porn.

I'll hold.

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Quote from: peonminer on December 01, 2015, 06:18:35 PM

oprahfail.gif

Everybody in the front row today is getting ... hot knives! You get a hot knife! And you get a hot knife! And you get a hot knife! Everybody gets hot knives!

I'll up you one

https://www.hardcoreanal.com/gay/bikerfuckedinass/view?=175_ghy_tllp

Um. I'm not clicking on this unless you can guarantee I won't see hardcore anal biker porn.

I'll hold.

You're Ray Charles. You'll be fine.

Or will you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnzuI4fsMs

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Quote from: adamstgBit on December 01, 2015, 09:15:06 PM

https://youtu.be/LdhXq7j4_gQ?t=2m50s

You're no fun

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Quote from: The KGB on December 02, 2015, 01:41:25 AM

Some guy that runs a BTC Ponzi got arrested today.. accomplices dumping ?

link : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-charges-josh-garza-with-securities-fraud-alleges-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

A lot of ponzi's are getting caught very soon. Shit I am in a ponzi actually.

Some of my best friends are ponzis.

Quote from: aminorex on November 30, 2015, 03:47:20 PM

Monkey likes BTC for the next 5 days at least.

Quote from: BitconAdvizor on December 02, 2015, 02:22:09 AM

How you bitcoin enthusiasts doing, still a bit shocky? Anyone I could call for you?
Maybe a little styrofoam cup of boiling coffee to burn your mouth, would you like that?
Just want you to remember I'm always here for you

Today in shitcoins: http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/sec-charges-bitcoin-startup-ceo-with-running-a-ponzi-scheme

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Instead, Garza payed investors with money received from other subsequent investors. According to the SEC filing, Garza and his companies earned $19 million in revenue from the sale of purported shares in a digital mining contract they called a Hashlet from August 2014 to December 2014. Although the operation involved complex technology, the scam was a Ponzi scheme like any other.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on December 02, 2015, 08:01:07 PM

we've created more jobs, doubled the workforce, extended the retirement age, gr8ly improved technology, and still the world economy is going to shit? Huh

? really?

The only solution: ~~MMM Republic of~~ Bitcoin! Cheesy

What we need is more people ~~gambling~~ trading bitcoin, and soon we'll see improvements across the board.

Bitcoin offers perfect information to everyone.
1 billion dollars can't go unaccounted for.

A huge percentage of Bitcoin has gone "unaccounted for" -- See Gox, see Pirate, see TF, see Ukyo, see Danny, etc., etc.
Knowing that your coin went to ~~Obvious Money Launderer~~ Provably Fair Dice site before ending up in Anon's pocket doesn't help much, if you know what I mean Cheesy

that's because it's the early days...
government wallets won't be able to arbitrarily send money to unknown addresses...
the poeple will demand they break down their spending plan, and watch them, making sure they don't go sending 10BTC to unknown address for unknown reasons.

Confidential Transactions: a side-chain for shady doings. Wait for it. Wink

Ok ya. But: Check Out This Crazy Trailer for a Vietnamese Bitcoin Action Movie

Cheesy

Quote from: bit-con-it on December 03, 2015, 01:28:44 AM

Quote from: peonminer on December 03, 2015, 01:01:58 AM

Crawl back into your WWIII bunker filled with your useless filth you call fiat. Bathe in it, burn it for warmth, use it to wipe your disgusting arses, because soon that is all it will be useful for.

Wait, you expect to use your funbux after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0?
Maybe swap some paper wallets for tins of dog food, hmm?
You wacky, disruptively stupid young people! The nutty shit you imagine!

Safe mode for the internet?

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Sooner or later—by intent or by accident—we will face a catastrophic breakdown of the Internet. Yet we have no Plan B in place to reboot a rudimentary, low-bandwidth emergency communication network if the high-bandwidth system we have come to depend on fails.

https://edge.org/response-detail/23689

Quote from: bit-con-it on December 03, 2015, 01:42:47 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 03, 2015, 01:36:18 AM

Safe mode for the internet?

You know how can phone works? Now imagine if we add some more string, and make a whole *web* of string, with tin cans connected all over the place?
Now imagine if we made that web world wide... Yeah, I'm always thinking...

Now if I could only figure out how to keep all them bitcoin megamines going, with nothing but rage, rotting corpses and radiation...

Carbon-breathing AI will be scrubbing the planet clean for your grandchildren. The future is probably all sunshine and double-rainbows

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 03, 2015, 09:23:08 AM

Odd isn't it Huh

Yup

Quote from: peonminer on December 03, 2015, 02:05:56 AM

Quote from: bit-con-it on December 03, 2015, 01:28:44 AM

Quote from: peonminer on December 03, 2015, 01:01:58 AM

Crawl back into your WWIII bunker filled with your useless filth you call fiat. Bathe in it, burn it for warmth, use it to wipe your disgusting arses, because soon that is all it will be useful for.

Wait, you expect to use your funbux after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0?
Maybe swap some paper wallets for tins of dog food, hmm?
You wacky, disruptively stupid young people! The nutty shit you imagine!

I guess you've never heard of bartering or precious metals, eh, cabal filthmonger? Oh, that's right. You prefer PAPER FRACTIONAL RESERVE for your precious metals. Right, because that bunk representation will not be moot during an apocalyptic event. Wink

Keep it coming, scumbag sock shill(s).

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2015, 02:10:27 AM

Quote from: bit-con-it on December 03, 2015, 01:28:44 AM

[...] The nutty shit you imagine!

Aside from the fact that OP was talking about *fiat-lover's* WWIII bunker, not bitcoin-lover's bunker....

Wait, you expect to use your USD - overwhelmingly digital, or your Visa - intractibly dependent upon the Internet, after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0?
Maybe swap the $117.37 that your on-hand cash is limited to for tins of dog food, hmm?
You wacky, conventionally stupid old people! The nutty shit you imagine!

Am I the only one who expects to die in the apocalypse?

yes, the rest of us keep pile of gun and ammo, water, basic medicine and raising chickens for eggs.

Fun fact: Mass extinction events happen about once every 65 million years and take out about 75% of life on Earth. The Great Dying took out 90%.

Quote from: Richy_T on December 03, 2015, 03:06:35 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 03, 2015, 09:55:07 AM

Fun fact: Mass extinction events happen about once every 65 million years and take out about 75% of life on Earth. The Great Dying took out 90%.

Fun fact: Human beings are one of the most adaptable species ever, managing to live in hot deserts, icy polar regions and even the vacuum of space. In terms of what would take us out, we're probably 1%ers

We have ample evidence Earth is headed for disaster, and for the first time in history we have the ability to prevent that disaster from wiping us out. I'm more optimistic than most

Today: http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/silk-roads-crooked-dea-agent-tried-to-invest-in-my-bitcoin-startup

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Force suggested he could be my company's compliance officer

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 05, 2015, 08:00:51 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2015, 10:58:15 PM

Well, well, well.

Just got back from doing some shopping and I see another leg up.

I guess those who expected a weekend dip were wrong.

How soon $400?

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Quote from: WhatsBitcoin on December 06, 2015, 01:18:52 AM

This is the kind of insane pump we should be selling. Innit?

Short term trader in me says yes. Degenerate moon kid in me says "Are you crazy?"

One day the moon kids will rule the world.

I'm of two minds about this whole thing. I'm alarmed. I'm going into tard mode nao. Shocked

Quote from: BadBear on December 06, 2015, 01:29:14 AM

This is odd, don't usually see a gain on the weekends, just the opposite.

Quote from: Hyperjacked on December 06, 2015, 01:26:34 AM

Just a short term sell imO! It's a huge bollinger band run...it's all math! Cool

ur a band run

Wink

lmao. Welcome to the observatorium!

OMG. I just sent 3 dollars and only have one confirm so far. This blockchain is impossible!!

s/

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 05, 2015, 07:48:41 PM

-.-- --- ..- / .- .-. . / .- -. / .. -.. .. --- -

I am disappointed that google translate was unable to turn that into "You are an idiot"

Fatman counter-trolls like a true sophisticate. Grin

Quote from: suda123 on December 06, 2015, 02:48:05 AM

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 05, 2015, 07:48:41 PM

-.-- --- ..- / .- .-. . / .- -. / .. -.. .. --- -

I am disappointed that google translate was unable to turn that into "You are an idiot"

Fatman counter-trolls like a true sophisticate. Grin

good thing your blind so you can't see peoples ugly ass faces

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 06, 2015, 03:00:56 AM

Quote from: Tmdz on December 06, 2015, 05:49:44 AM

Yup and when they dump everyone will come marching in with their doomsday prophecy and how its the end of bitcoin. Business as usual

It's the end of bitcoin?!?

Does Lambie know yet??

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 06, 2015, 11:23:08 AM

This one's for you, lambie: A Bitcoiner Is Born

I didn’t even know the goddam kid was there.

Miners weigh in...

Quote from: heartastack on December 07, 2015, 02:29:44 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 07, 2015, 12:04:17 AM

Lambie is long. Boooorinngg Roll Eyes

Didn't lambie turn out to be a fat lesbian recluse? Some doxings should never be done.

A doxing isn't a doxing if it's just wild stabs in the dark.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 07, 2015, 05:07:09 AM

Well, seeing as you lot have turned it into the Lambie Observer Thread again.

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Quote from: Scarce is better on December 07, 2015, 04:28:41 AM

Izabella Kaminska has a classic case of acute sociopathic personality disorder. She fits the symptoms as well as one can. The sociopath fears exposure above most things. I don't know what methods The Doxing used to unmask her and they likely weren't legal in many jurisdictions, but it has already been done. It is understandable that The Doxing left no concrete proof to avoid incriminating himself. I for one would not want to see him arrested for making the world a better place. It is very obvious she is indeed Lambie, and she has admitted it on multiple occasions, so further proof is not necessary. If she is low on funds from shorting bitcoin in hopes of blogging hit pieces and trolling the market so much she turned a profit, then I believe she would make a great candidate for a high level psychiatric study that might warrant a stipend. I believe in her delusions of grandeur she believed that one blogger could affect a world wide market. One can't help but notice the irony that Izabella tweets about her financial hardships, yet spends her days and nights fighting to defend the corrupt system that make her barely able to afford the high cost of living in London, rather than finding a mate and giving birth to and raising more Izabellambies. Perhaps that is for the best, who knows. It is nice to know who is doing all the ridiculous trolling, so The Doxing, if your reading, this ones for you buddy.

https://twitter.com/izakaminska/

This is an obvious attempt to provoke people to harass an innocent financial blogger in an attempt to generate bad press for bitcoin.

I tend to agree with this.

This, " interested in all things energy, central banky, market structurey and science fictiony.", is just so horrible... a pseudo-intellecutual-valley-girl-speak that doesn't jive with what we know. Real lambie's ego is far too huge and confident to willingly smear their own public image so badly.

Still, someone seems to have taken the bait:

Izabella Kaminska ‏@izakaminska 32m32 minutes ago

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The world of bitcoiners is so binary. Hilarious. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3vq65d/kaminska_critiques_goldman_sachs_setlcoin_patent/ …? (Fyi - I have not changed my view of Bitcoin)

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 08, 2015, 01:16:26 AM

Why do we have such high levels of A.D.D. in this thread - without intensive BTC price for 24 hours or so, peeps lose their interest?
Maybe lambie did serve some kind of productive purpose in distracting/entertaining us with various bullshit non-bitcoin distractions, while we wait for the next price spike?

He gave you a common enemy to unite you. Without He Who Is Without Sin to rage against, you turn on each other. Like rabid shrews in a fishbowl, bit-coin drug addicts turn on bTC-coin gamblers, BitCoin sig ad spammers tear into bitcointalk account dealers, money launderers start to feed on usurers -- like leaches sucking out life from each other. We won't even mention what bit~coin pedophiles start doing, because NSFW Angry

TheLamb gave you reason for being...

'“Ah, Grendel!” he said. He seemed that instant almost to rise to pity. “You improve them, my boy! Can’t you see that yourself? You stimulate them! You make them think and scheme. You drive them to poetry, science, religion, all that makes them what they are for as long as they last. You are, so to speak, the brute existent by which they learn to define themselves.”'

VV peonminer This user is currently ignored.
Unignore

Such thoughts, many wisdoms.

Along with CLTV, SW is another piece of the LN puzzle solved. Seems like Blockstream wins again.

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Anyone who is in a position of power on another forum fancy having ChartBuddy post there? I'm about done with Theymos' nonsense.

What happened?

More shit and shenanigans over on Reddit.

I like the change.

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Also, comments with a score of -5 or lower will no longer be hidden. I think that this feature of Reddit is very harmful to discussion because it silences people with unpopular opinions.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3vtkpk/when_did_scores_start_to_get_hidden_on_everyones/cxqmi5b?context=3

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 08, 2015, 06:56:31 PM

Quote from: jbreher on December 08, 2015, 06:22:03 PM

Frankly, I admire Stolfi for never losing his cool when subjected to inappropriate ridicule and disrespect. Could we maybe just try to act like grownups?

To be fair, Stolfi is mostly trolling. Although I support larger blocks myself, I do suspect Stolfi is trolling in this regard as well.
I did have a hope that the inner nerd in him lit a fire a while ago, but alas. He is obviously not stupid, so the way he manages to misrepresent just about everything he's referring to should be a red light for most.

PS. Oh, and I made him lose his cool once. It's not easy but it can be done.

I seem to remember not long ago he wished we all die in a fire. Cheesy

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 08, 2015, 06:56:31 PM

Quote from: jbreher on December 08, 2015, 06:22:03 PM

Frankly, I admire Stolfi for never losing his cool when subjected to inappropriate ridicule and disrespect. Could we maybe just try to act like grownups?

To be fair, Stolfi is mostly trolling. Although I support larger blocks myself, I do suspect Stolfi is trolling in this regard as well.
I did have a hope that the inner nerd in him lit a fire a while ago, but alas. He is obviously not stupid, so the way he manages to misrepresent just about everything he's referring to should be a red light for most.

PS. Oh, and I made him lose his cool once. It's not easy but it can be done.

I seem to remember not long ago he wished we all die in a fire. Cheesy

Academically speaking, of course.

I wish I had bookmarked that quote. I’d like it embroidered on a nice pillow.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on October 17, 2015, 03:14:42 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 16, 2015, 10:43:33 PM

I read something about a vast Russian MMM ponzi currently operating in South Africa buying up Bitcoins. Any news?

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Bobby Lee, CEO of Chinese exchange BTCC, told CoinDesk his platform has seen a significant volume increase, though he dismissed much of his competitors' volume as "artificial".

Those behind the volume, he said, are not traders but consumers sucked into a Russian ponzi scheme, MMM.

"We have posted warnings on our site and on our social media to warn users to be careful, but they have been coming to our exchange and buying out like crazy," he said, adding:

"This time it's not speculative trading but based on them getting sucked into this ecosystem."

https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/654273706013798401?lang=en

"South Africa" must include a many of the poorest and least educated people there.

Ah, bitcoin -- bringing First World financial ruin to the unbanked in the Third World...

May you all go broke, and burn in hell...

Ah. It was eternal damnation. My mistake. Cheesy

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 09, 2015, 12:35:49 AM

Wright at Bitcoin Investor Conference - Las Vegas, NV Oct. 29 - 30, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LdvQTwjVmrE#t=140

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LdvQTwjVmrE#t=2897

"If this was litte rascals I'd wanna be Darla"

Undecided

gg

Quote from: brg444 on December 09, 2015, 12:55:43 AM

Okay so this guy is clearly not Satoshi but most certainly one hell of a sociopath Shocked

That'll get Bitcoin in the news though and a lot of people will notice the current price raise.

Bullish.

I don't follow. One hell of a sociopath how?

Quote from: megashira1 on December 09, 2015, 01:39:04 AM

Conference video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

Skip to 48:15. It gets good.

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Quote from: ImI on December 09, 2015, 01:44:29 AM

i am starting to take this SN talk serious.........

edit: if so....how the fuck did they find him?!

You really think Satoshi is one guy?

its possible

Or actually wants to be unmasked?

also possible

lets see. interesting times, thats for sure!

also he somehow reminds me of Charlie Sheen... Grin

He reminds me of a professor we had in once from Oxford. He'd rave like a lunatic about peanut butter. "It's totally inedible!" he'd say. The man was impossible to reason with.

Quote from: Cassius on December 09, 2015, 03:51:24 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

It seems sort of odd that Satoshi would have penned a defense of PayPal.

https://theconversation.com/are-anonymous-and-lulzsec-about-to-hack-paypal-for-wikileaks-2582

Idk

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 09, 2015, 04:44:03 PM

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Quote from: JimboToronto on December 09, 2015, 04:39:27 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.

Depends on where you live

Edit: Ouch! I guess it doesn't.

Fatman, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Hello there,

Gavin Andresen has just published a new article: Segregated Witness is cool

Quote from: brg444 on December 09, 2015, 01:06:00 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 09, 2015, 01:01:12 AM

Quote from: brg444 on December 09, 2015, 12:55:43 AM

Okay so this guy is clearly not Satoshi but most certainly one hell of a sociopath Shocked

That'll get Bitcoin in the news though and a lot of people will notice the current price raise.

Bullish.

I don't follow. One hell of a sociopath how?

It's rather clear this thing is a hoax. Don't ask me the intentions behind it but this egomaniac couldn't possibly be Satoshi.

Good call.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax

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But the keys are important because they’re not just plain suspicious, there’s evidence of active, intentional deception with respect to the keys. (Wired’s Andy Greenberg pointed out that this was already in line with their article, which notes that Wright may have engaged in an elaborate, long-running deception).

Quote from: peonminer on December 10, 2015, 01:40:21 AM

LOL all these 'full fiat @ $380 because that was the top now we're headed sub $200' are showing up left and right to wail about how the biggest volume spikes the market has ever seen is moot and we will see it 'flash crash sub $200' so they can fulfill their sick cheap wet dreams. Cheesy

GL with that, hoss. Wink

But it's Tera. TERA!

Tera! Tera!
What had become of you?
Does anybody else here
Feel the way I do?

LOL!

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011936.html

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 10, 2015, 10:54:59 AM

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 10, 2015, 05:50:26 AM

Mike Hearn's little free shit peed-in-my-pants [snip]

Way to ruin a pretty decent reputation you had here.

I'm getting the impression that an emerging bull market isn't exactly a good influence on your ego. I'm half expecting risto to drop by any moment now, posting about his latest renovation projects.

Not to mention this little nugget.

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 10, 2015, 05:50:26 AM

... nup, just we duh wunt mah-big-blocks massah.

I know I'm going to be accused of being too PC, but the more I look at it the more problematic it looks.

Reminds me a lot of MP.

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a proposal its proponents call "segregated witness," which amounts to Jim Crow style prejudice against cryptographic signatures on the blockchain.

I'm sure SW is exactly like state-sanctioned racial oppression.

Roll Eyes

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 10, 2015, 11:20:57 PM

Quote from: ssmc2 on December 10, 2015, 11:12:38 PM

Anyone else have that strong sensation that we're going to have a nice Xmas gift of above 500?

dunno, looks like the derp army is pretty butthurt with Hearn's ragequit defection to the bankster darkside and subsequent total disintegration of the White Knight XT project ... they could crap the place up for quite some time with their butthurt herp-derp, more accumulation phase I guess until they fork off or accept the technical realities of the day ...

tl;dr too many deflated bruised egos on display for a new constructive phase right now.

I appreciate your tone. You have a warm, soothing way about you.

I believe Gavin is now in charge of XT.

BJA | British Journal of Anaesthesia. Try to keep up. Roll Eyes

Quote from: DieJohnny on December 11, 2015, 12:48:58 AM

Kent Brockman: It's blob rule on the streets of Springfield! And to make matters worse, we're being attacked by a fifty-foot Lenny!
Fifty-Foot Lenny: Everyone's paying attention to Homer.
Carl: I still like you.
Fifty-Foot Lenny: Thanks, Invisible Carl!

Interesting...

I just had to share this. Epic delusions of grandeur? Or wut???

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 11, 2015, 10:00:52 AM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 11, 2015, 06:14:58 PM

BFX is going quicker than China. Almost no gap. Strange.
Meanwhile so much euforia. It's time to start selling for me.

Who will be the last hodler standing?

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 11, 2015, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 11, 2015, 06:18:40 PM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 11, 2015, 06:14:58 PM

BFX is going quicker than China. Almost no gap. Strange.
Meanwhile so much euforia. It's time to start selling for me.

Who will be the last hodler standing?

I'll sell 75% WHEN we hit 2,000 USD Wink

I still have no idea what I'm doing. Cheesy

The square community is getting on.
Cool

http://www.forbes.com/sites#/sites/laurashin/2015/12/11/should-you-invest-in-bitcoin-10-arguments-in-favor-as-of-december-2015/

Quote from: TERA on December 11, 2015, 09:17:33 PM

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Quote from: rokkyroad on December 11, 2015, 09:08:17 PM

Its all fun and games till someone dumps 1000+ btc.

Today's volume at Huobi is almost 1.5M

Source:
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

Even if that is fake, there's proof that the engine's hot and running.

https://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume-usd

Do you mean to tell me that after 2 years we STILL haven't matured past talking about CNY exchanges.

That's still where the money is.

The forum is going down for 30-60 minutes of maintenance at 45 minutes after the hour.

Get yer gifs in.

Quote from: Frost on December 11, 2015, 11:39:29 PM

I don't get what drives the price.

If only Shroomskit could have hodled until Ethereum and The Bitcoin Foundation and the U.S Federal government and Theymos had all finished dumping. Sad

If humans are going to survive for another million years we're going to have to start thinking about things like geoengineering and terraforming. Have you people even considered that?! Undecided

Quote from: Halaman on December 12, 2015, 01:42:29 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 12, 2015, 01:35:25 AM

If humans are going to survive for another million years we're going to have to start thinking about things like geoengineering and terraforming. Have you people even considered that?! Undecided

Many have been thinking about this a long time already and plans are in action for a while now. Don't worry about that. It will be fine.

I wonder what the price of bitcoin would be by then Grin

A ride on a space elevator in geostationary orbit thousands of kilometers above the Earth will be 1 BTC a ticket but the speeches will be free.

Leave a couple for the grandkids.

Quote from: nioc on December 12, 2015, 01:55:49 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 12, 2015, 01:35:25 AM

If humans are going to survive for another million years we're going to have to start thinking about things like geoengineering and terraforming. Have you people even considered that?! Undecided

Humans in their current form have only been around for ~100,000 years. Do you think we will survive our first million years?

Posted while playing poker and winning some btc

If we play our cards right?

Quote from: gentlemand on December 12, 2015, 02:01:23 AM

Quote from: nioc on December 12, 2015, 01:55:49 AM

Humans in their current form have only been around for ~100,000 years. Do you think we will survive our first million years?

Posted while playing poker and winning some btc

Most of us will be cloud consciousnesses by the end of this millenium with the option to occasionally download into sexy ladybot bodies when the mood takes.

The milkshakes always bring the boys to the yard.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 12, 2015, 02:23:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 12, 2015, 12:48:04 AM

If only Shroomskit could have hodled until Ethereum and The Bitcoin Foundation and the U.S Federal government and Theymos had all finished dumping. Sad

The old cum rag's got a little life left. Cheesy

[Chorus x2]
La la-la la la,
Warm it up.
Lala-lalala,
The boys are waiting

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/kelis/milkshake.html

Quote from: MinermanNC on December 12, 2015, 02:46:08 AM

Any best guesses as to what is fueling all of this?

I'm guess its the saggy stock markets and the constantly growing interest in the blockchain?

Plus North Carolina is now a bitcoin friendly state Wink

lol

More than NY anyways Grin

International money will pour in and keep pouring in, just like it has into every real-estate market in the world. Money needs a home. That's always been my best guess.

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 12, 2015, 03:28:18 AM

lol what the fuck is happening to price???

It seems we're rich. Roll Eyes

.gif

Quote from: Chalidore Phoenix on December 12, 2015, 03:33:26 AM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 12, 2015, 03:25:59 AM

2 million $ worth of longs added on bitfinex in the last 12 hrs, total near $26.5 mil . Shorts below 8k btc.

If that isn't a recipe for a crash, I don't know what is. When the price starts dropping, there will be margin calls.
I will admit, I shouldn't have sold at 450. I should have waited for 465-470. That doesn't change the fact that this leverage fueled rally is not sustainable, and will end with a massive move downward. Get out now, or lose all your gains.

What exchange are your bids on?

Quote from: Chalidore Phoenix on December 12, 2015, 03:47:21 AM

Quote from: Chalidore Phoenix on December 12, 2015, 03:40:57 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 12, 2015, 03:35:12 AM

Quote from: Chalidore Phoenix on December 12, 2015, 03:33:26 AM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 12, 2015, 03:25:59 AM

2 million $ worth of longs added on bitfinex in the last 12 hrs, total near $26.5 mil . Shorts below 8k btc.

If that isn't a recipe for a crash, I don't know what is. When the price starts dropping, there will be margin calls.
I will admit, I shouldn't have sold at 450. I should have waited for 465-470. That doesn't change the fact that this leverage fueled rally is not sustainable, and will end with a massive move downward. Get out now, or lose all your gains.

What exchange are your bids on?

finex
Why do you ask?

Oh ffs. That's just rude. Did you do that?
Give an old soldier a fucking break already!
Fuck you guys. I'm gonna smoke a joint, drink some whiskey, and decide on my next move. I really don't want to eat this loss.

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 12, 2015, 10:02:09 AM

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Quote from: peonminer on December 11, 2015, 09:19:23 PM

I would like to tell you again, about how I sold my bitcoins for 450...and bought them back at 420.
Still grinning ear to ear after predicting that crash last night.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/

There's still hope.

So, any recent advances in carbon nanotube fibres we should know about?

Quote from: peonminer on December 12, 2015, 06:13:00 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 12, 2015, 06:09:26 PM

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/537301/spiders-ingest-nanotubes-then-weave-silk-reinforced-with-carbon/

Alchemy at its modern day finest. Cool

Thanks for this link. It's a good read. Now if they could add some of this to the pump strings. Wink

moon?

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 13, 2015, 12:01:04 AM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on December 12, 2015, 10:11:44 PM

the arbitrage is not that efficient between East and West- it was only a couple of weeks ago that there was $50 difference between Huobi and Bitstamp, Chinese BTC being at the premium,

(the players seem to be a rather discrete bunch).

Quote from: TERA on December 13, 2015, 12:24:12 PM

Seriously, you guys are still counting BTC/CNY volume on Huobi and OKCoin? Get a clue.

Thinking is kinda what we do here now. Old-timer. Tongue

Quote from: Professorino CATO on December 13, 2015, 01:33:10 PM

Quote from: TERA on December 13, 2015, 01:15:51 PM

... USD and adoption are supposed to be running the show now, but here we still have jokers talking about how 'the imaginary chinese whale dumped his 80,000btc/cny on Huobi'.

~time passes~

Quote from: Professorino CATO on December 13, 2015, 02:08:01 PM

Quote from: oda.krell on December 13, 2015, 01:56:47 PM

Quote from: TERA on December 13, 2015, 12:24:12 PM

Seriously, you guys are still counting BTC/CNY volume on Huobi and OKCoin? Get a clue.

Out of curiosity then, how do you suggest to deal with it? Entirely discard it in the analysis?

Completely ignoring it seems quite excessive to me, and maybe just as counterproductive as treating it as if it were 100% 'real'.

Fun Riddle:
You are a prisoner, in a cell, and you wanna be free. Free to ride your machines without being hassled by The Man.
The cell has two doors, each with a guard.
One of the doors leads to freedom, the other to the chopping block.
You are allowed to ask one of the guards one, and only one, question.
One of the guards is always truthful, the other always lies.*
What is the question to ask?

*Well, not always. Actually, they're just regular people, like you and I. Sometimes they lie, sometimes they don't.

"What would the other guard say?"

*Introducing Tobogganed Medallions Nonacceptance Skegs?

Thinking isn't really one of my stronger qualities. Embarrassed

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on December 13, 2015, 02:33:46 PM

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on December 13, 2015, 02:26:02 PM

Looks like it wants to make a small jump up

nailed it

Totally organic, just the way Lambie likes it. Wink

Quote from: inca on December 13, 2015, 07:18:57 PM

All those but the troll turned bull who were shorting got wiped out already.

I made a petition thread once to have NLC's permaban lifted. It got nuked. I don't care what any of you say (or what I may say in the future), the troll as you call him might be one of the sharpest tools in this shed.

Edit: he's still kind of a tool, tho.

Quote from: inca on December 13, 2015, 07:55:42 PM

Quote from: peonminer on December 13, 2015, 07:49:00 PM

Quote from: Hyperjacked on December 13, 2015, 07:32:01 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2015, 07:28:37 PM

Quote from: inca on December 13, 2015, 07:18:57 PM

All those but the troll turned bull who were shorting got wiped out already.

I made a petition thread once to have NLC's permaban lifted. It got nuked. I don't care what any of you say (or what I may say in the future), the troll as you call him might be one of the sharpest tools in this shed.

Edit: he's still kind of a tool, tho.

Who...?

To da moon Cool

No one minds someone they can ignore. When you cannot ignore them because they create hundreds of newbie usernames and start posting naked pictures of homeless people or making child porn references then enough is enough.

It was obvious the troll was a bull anyway. Like all the doomers on here.

I like to think of it as a stress test. I'm trying to be more anti-fragile.

You people are all so crazy. This place is so crazy.

Cheesy

BENEATH the waters of the sea
Are ~~lobsters~~bearwhales thick as thick can be
They love to dance with you and me,
My own, my gentle Salmon!

CHORUS

Salmon, come up! Salmon, go down!
Salmon, come twist your tail around!
Of all the fishes of the sea
There’s none so good as Salmon!

THE END

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 13, 2015, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2015, 10:18:20 PM

Quote from: koryu on December 13, 2015, 10:16:04 PM

The slaying of bearwhale Cheesy

leaving the bearwhale pattern™ in charts

https://youtu.be/X0hpNAUTK3c?t=5m50s

Bloody Youtube just made me watch 5 seconds of a Mormon Christmas video Cry

What's that like?

Is Santa the bad guy?

They were trying real(ly) hard to be like Jesus.

There was no Santa.

Quote from: Hyperjacked on December 13, 2015, 10:30:53 PM

Same troll keeps coming back...

For real(ly) tho?

Murray Christmas everyone!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 13, 2015, 10:34:51 PM

Quote from: Hyperjacked on December 13, 2015, 10:30:53 PM

Same troll keeps coming back...

Nah, that's genuine n00bs beggin for pro tips.

You should straighten them out.

lol.

Wall Street types mostly Cheesy

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 13, 2015, 11:14:09 PM

Quote from: Hyperjacked on December 13, 2015, 11:07:15 PM

Quote from: peonminer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:29 PM

Adam, do that thing where you tell everyone to sell again. Tongue

Maybe if was the real Adam...but his account was sold long ago...

Of course that fat dude hangs on his every word...

I like Adam. He's cool.... in a nerdy kind of way.

It's called geek chic where he's from. Very trendy.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 13, 2015, 11:55:35 PM

Quote from: TheWorldOfCunt on December 13, 2015, 11:54:23 PM

Guys, is the price supposed to fall this fast on absolutely no volume?
How is this possible Huh

Yes it is, relax.

Totally normal.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 14, 2015, 12:03:22 AM

Quote from: TheWorldOfCunt on December 14, 2015, 12:01:13 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2015, 11:55:59 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 13, 2015, 11:55:35 PM

Quote from: TheWorldOfCunt on December 13, 2015, 11:54:23 PM

Guys, is the price supposed to fall this fast on absolutely no volume?
How is this possible Huh

Yes it is, relax.

Totally normal.

Oh good, because it just fell another buck. On no volume Sad

I figure I'm not gonna sell until it hits, like, 350. How soon do you guys think that'll be?

Minutes at the least.

Maybe several.

Did I already do my Deja Vu joke? Huh

Edit: I feel like I already did my Deja Vu joke.

http://fortune.com/2015/12/13/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-mystery/

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 14, 2015, 05:05:38 PM

Quote from: fisheater22 on December 14, 2015, 04:44:13 PM

Quote from: peonminer on December 14, 2015, 04:38:39 PM

I have Assburgers!

OMG, what's going on with your shitcoin?! Shocked

Quote from: SimonTower on December 13, 2015, 05:32:53 PM

Any news?
This 20% price decreasing/day is brutal.

Lol, I hadn't noticed he headed the thing!

Cheating tofu-eating-hippies out of their money. Pure evil.

smh

Quote from: Divitiae miserae on December 14, 2015, 11:06:28 PM

The moment of truth is approaching. There's not much time left to redeem yourselves.

The Rapture?

Quote from: peonminer on December 14, 2015, 11:10:50 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2015, 11:07:04 PM

Quote from: Divitiae miserae on December 14, 2015, 11:06:28 PM

The moment of truth is approaching. There's not much time left to redeem yourselves.

The Rapture?

$465*

Well I figure I'm totally prepared either way.

Suck us up, Lord!

Consider also a cop on a seesaw?

Quote from: brg444 on December 15, 2015, 12:37:20 AM

bye bye shorts !! Cool

Quote from: suda123 on December 15, 2015, 04:36:24 PM

Quote from: ABitTwentySeventy on December 15, 2015, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: dreamspark on December 15, 2015, 03:37:14 PM

Wha wha wha so many whiny bears, you carry on talking about irrelevant bids and asks and ignore the bigger picture, be my guest. But but blocks lol

Halving.
Difficulty increase.
Increased interest.

These are things that are affecting price. I fully expect to see nearer to $100mil in leverage longs when this really starts bubbling.

Good point. Because everyone wants to use a currency they can't use because it doesn't work

yea right who the he'll wants stocks you can't use

Hehe: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3wuk6b/would_it_not_be_in_miners_rational_selfinterest/

Quote from: xyzzy099 on December 15, 2015, 07:37:25 PM

Quote from: ABitTwentySeventy on December 15, 2015, 07:33:28 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 15, 2015, 07:25:24 PM

Quote from: ABitTwentySeventy on December 15, 2015, 07:15:58 PM

>I really don't understand how you can't get bored with this.
I do. But duty as an educator; noblesse oblige and shit...

Educate Elwar?

Good Luck

But the [apparent] futility [and thanklessness] of the task is a reward in itself! Think Sisyphus. Think A Hunger Artist. Think late-1800s dandy reading flowery romantic poesy to a drunk in the gutter

This will forever be my image of you now - the Lamb is dead, long live the Dandy!

Quote from: POM on December 15, 2015, 08:32:19 PM

What a great week

Plural of Mongoose! How's Thailand?

Bitcoin Foundation board members Jim Harper and Olivier Janssens have resigned and been removed from the trade organization, respectively, following a disagreement over the future of the advocacy group.

http://www.coindesk.com/harper-janssens-exit-bitcoin-foundation/

"They wanted everyone to start raising money, so they could come up with a plan. I said I'm not comfortable to raise money UNTIL we have a plan," Janssens wrote in a Reddit post.

"The truth is that the foundation is pretty much dead. They will try to keep it going just for the name and ego, but they have no support left with the community," he wrote.

Quote from: Bonemeal on December 15, 2015, 11:02:36 PM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on December 15, 2015, 10:38:59 PM

Lambie, face it, BTC price is rising and so is your cognitive dissonance.
[img gif from tumblr img]

No denying it, but I'm sure glad I got out when I did. Price is just one aspect of this shitshow, you gotta consider the whole ~~mise-en-scene~~ thingamabob. Worrying about money on shady exchanges, worrying about taxes, regulations, worrying BTC getting B&.
As P. Pig had once so eloquently put it, "wuh..w.w.worry, w..w..worry, wuh..wu.worry!"

You worry too much. Angry

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 15, 2015, 11:34:33 PM

Quote from: rebuilder on December 15, 2015, 11:20:51 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 15, 2015, 11:16:19 PM

Has this place always been Stormfront lite?

Put it this way, back in 2011 I bought coffee from someone here who, I later noticed, professed to be a vehemently anti-racist white separatist. I didn't even know there *were* white separatists before that. Also had to look up the word 'miscegenation', my grade school latin didn't include that word.

So they recognize that the slaughtering of millions of jews, roma, homosexuals and slavs might require some re-branding?

I'm not entirely sure that's an improvement.

Ugh, can't wait 'till this thing goes mainstream. I hate having to agree with the sociopathic troll all the time.

Lol. Same

Quote from: Richy_T on December 16, 2015, 12:12:26 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 15, 2015, 11:15:57 PM

Bitcoin Foundation

Izzat thing still around?

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 15, 2015, 11:15:57 PM

"The truth is that the foundation is pretty much dead. They will try to keep it going just for the name and ego, but they have no support left with the community," he wrote.

Apparently, not really.

Soon enough it will just be Brock Pierce mincing about with little business cards. Meh.

Quote from: suda123 on December 16, 2015, 04:32:17 AM

Quote from: solitude on December 16, 2015, 04:28:10 AM

Daily reminder:

>Trading your bitcoin for short-term profits will burn you in the long run
>You're not "lucky", you can't time the market, stop trying.
>TA (Technical Analysis) is always bullshit, you can safely disregard any retard who posts a picture of a graph anywhere.
>Gambling in any form is for braindead retards
>Bitcoin will increase, and increase by a lot, in the long run.
>The mere fact that this forum allows paid signature campaigns and third world trash to post utter nonsense in broken english for their signature campaign just goes to show this forum is reddit-tier (shit)

OP, you may now close this thread. Everything important has been said in this post.

shitty ass autistic green text, but your 100% correct

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290868.msg13263014#msg13263014

Quote from: AlexGR on December 16, 2015, 09:53:18 AM

Quote from: DaRude on December 16, 2015, 09:51:50 AM

Whoa that was beautiful on finex

Someone FOMO'ed Cheesy

Wasn't me I swear.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 09:23:39 AM

Quote from: suda123 on December 16, 2015, 04:32:17 AM

Quote from: solitude on December 16, 2015, 04:28:10 AM

Daily reminder:

>Trading your bitcoin for short-term profits will burn you in the long run
>You're not "lucky", you can't time the market, stop trying.
>TA (Technical Analysis) is always bullshit, you can safely disregard any retard who posts a picture of a graph anywhere.
>Gambling in any form is for braindead retards
>Bitcoin will increase, and increase by a lot, in the long run.
>The mere fact that this forum allows paid signature campaigns and third world trash to post utter nonsense in broken english for their signature campaign just goes to show this forum is reddit-tier (shit)

OP, you may now close this thread. Everything important has been said in this post.

shitty ass autistic green text, but your 100% correct

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290868.msg13263014#msg13263014

Update: Day 2.

Still no car.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 16, 2015, 11:03:35 PM

Quote from: jbreher on December 16, 2015, 10:52:42 PM

Quote from: Vahnt on December 16, 2015, 04:39:26 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

fat finger?

Probably someone wanted to buy a house.

Or a boat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjKSVe1tQ

BTW, this should be the WO-thread tune.

Best-in-class towing. That's Ford tough.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 16, 2015, 11:52:52 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 11:29:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 03:56:11 PM

Hehehe!!

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37gj0l/when_the_block_reward_goes_away_gavin_andresen/crmk1eg

Thanks Professor.

That was a short stint.

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3x45f7/i_have_removed_btcdrak_as_mod_we_owe_you_guys_a/

What happened?

Forums dramaticus. BTCDrak trolled somebody and got shit-canned as mod (second link). He trolled Gavin 5 months ago and got ripped a new one (first link).

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 17, 2015, 12:36:05 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 17, 2015, 12:05:14 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 16, 2015, 11:52:52 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 11:29:39 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 03:56:11 PM

Hehehe!!

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37gj0l/when_the_block_reward_goes_away_gavin_andresen/crmk1eg

Thanks Professor.

That was a short stint.

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3x45f7/i_have_removed_btcdrak_as_mod_we_owe_you_guys_a/

What happened?

Forums dramaticus. BTCDrak trolled somebody and got shit-canned as mod (second link). He trolled Gavin 5 months ago and got ripped a new one (first link).

I hate reddit.

It never ends. And half the discussion in any thread is about to what extent you should behave yourself.

It's a warmer welcome for most posters. Gavin refuses to come back here. Cry

Just bring me the dogs!

Cry 'Havov' and let slip the dogs of war!

Gentleman, this just in...

Quote from: Lauda on December 17, 2015, 06:47:27 PM

It would be nice if the price closed at this price level for 2015. 2016 is definitely going to be more exciting than this year was. Due to the huge amount of posts here and me being to unable so much time into the thread, could someone share some information directly (price changes that are expected)? It would be very appreciated.

Lambie? Care to comment?

Quote from: MoreNewSolutions on December 17, 2015, 07:33:54 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 17, 2015, 07:25:54 PM

Quote from: MoreNewSolutions on December 17, 2015, 07:13:34 PM

You're bringing ethics into this now? "Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me" ring a bell?

This is why you can't argue logic with religious people. Sure, give me all your money now and you get pie in the sky when you die. There's always a point at which faith trumps reason.

Maybe that's true, but I don't want to get hung on a cross or eaten by lions. The treasures I have are my family right here on earth and if I can provide for them, then that's my reward.

You're not arguing logic with a religious person.
You're arguing logic with someone who understand that ethics have nothing to do with logic, and western ethics in particular are based on Judeo-Christian teachings.
TL;DR: Ethics are no different from religion, immune from logical analysis (not that people haven't tried). Good job ignoring the rest of the stuff I said.

Human morality is a production of natural selection. Behaving ethically is an evolutionarily stable strategy. Our religious fables are just fantastic narratives trying to explain or justify it.

Quote from: ElCastrato on December 17, 2015, 07:45:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 17, 2015, 07:38:22 PM

...
Human morality is a production of natural selection. Behaving ethically is an evolutionarily stable strategy. Our religious fables are just fantastic narratives trying to explain or justify it.

>Behaving ethically is an evolutionarily stable strategy.
This immediately kicks ethics down into the realm of 'life-affirming.' Stuff like "fair" and "unfair" no longer applies. No more value judgement beyond equally arbitrary "instrumental to survival of the human race." What's so important about the human race? Why celebrate this biological need to survive and multiply, like mold in a Petri dish?
And what's to say that the serial raper-killer is not essential to the beautiful tapestry of life? Thinning the heard? Every soul is useful. Morals are also in constant flux.

In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts. Thank you.

What does the price of Bitcoin have to do with Libya? I'd ask that you stay on topic. Angry

Quote from: ElCastrato on December 17, 2015, 07:45:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 17, 2015, 07:38:22 PM

...
Human morality is a production of natural selection. Behaving ethically is an evolutionarily stable strategy. Our religious fables are just fantastic narratives trying to explain or justify it.

>Behaving ethically is an evolutionarily stable strategy.
This immediately kicks ethics down into the realm of 'life-affirming.' Stuff like "fair" and "unfair" no longer applies. No more value judgement beyond equally arbitrary "instrumental to survival of the human race." What's so important about the human race? Why celebrate this biological need to survive and multiply, like mold in a Petri dish?
And what's to say that the serial raper-killer is not essential to the beautiful tapestry of life? Thinning the herd? Every soul is useful. Morals are also in constant flux.

In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts. Thank you.
edited to fix spellink

It's an interesting point. Sociopathy in small numbers also seems to work.

https://www.quora.com/Could-sociopathy-be-considered-an-evolutionary-advantage

Quote from: brg444 on December 17, 2015, 11:28:38 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 17, 2015, 11:24:36 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 17, 2015, 10:20:12 PM

ok ... the overnight model runs are in and the news looks good.

456 was expected to be an important number and looks to have confirmed. 500 is a pressure point but not an important number as such, 600 equally weighted.

620 is an important number ... strangely there doesn't seem to be much else between ATH 1250 ish (pressure point) and then important number 1666!

You mean much else besides a 1 MB brick wall? You seriously think we could get that high without jamming up the network? I'm a firefighter. You can't put out a conflagration with a garden hose, no matter how much water you have in the tank. Capacity matters.

Do you honestly believe people right now are buying coins to use them for transactions? Are you that dense?

Have you ever heard of drugs?

Quote from: Meuh6879 on December 17, 2015, 10:51:31 PM

stable like a rock.

Grin

plunge at any time ... it's friday Cheesy

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 18, 2015, 12:08:31 AM

UPDATE: SwampNode is up and running BitcoinXT on dedicated hardware. If you have a better solution, I'd like to hear it, but it had better be soon. We're getting full blocks daily now. Before long it will be hourly and then every damn one. You can imagine what happens to bitcoin price when the only offramp from the exchanges is fiat. Only it won't just be one exchange. It will be all of them.

You seem alarmed. 3 of 5 core devs are (I believe) in principle opposed to bigger blocks, and are by conflict of interest disincentivised to buckle. Problem?

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 18, 2015, 12:49:40 AM

So who's buying today that couldn't have bought yesterday when FOMO was running rampant? Every ten minutes, new coins are mined. Every day, blocks get closer to 1MB. Every day, the people that bought above $460 feel a little more burned.

-Speculators
-Degenerates
-Drug users/Drug dealers
-Gamblers
-Rich people
-Techy coder types

Everyday, day after day.

Quote from: ssmc2 on December 18, 2015, 01:20:40 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2015, 12:53:30 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 18, 2015, 12:49:40 AM

So who's buying today that couldn't have bought yesterday when FOMO was running rampant? Every ten minutes, new coins are mined. Every day, blocks get closer to 1MB. Every day, the people that bought above $460 feel a little more burned.

-Speculators
-Degenerates
-Drug users/Drug dealers
-Gamblers
-Rich people
-Techy coder types

Everyday, day after day.

My kind'a people

Have a cigar.

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 18, 2015, 01:31:12 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2015, 12:53:30 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 18, 2015, 12:49:40 AM

So who's buying today that couldn't have bought yesterday when FOMO was running rampant? Every ten minutes, new coins are mined. Every day, blocks get closer to 1MB. Every day, the people that bought above $460 feel a little more burned.

-Speculators
-Degenerates
-Drug users/Drug dealers
-Gamblers
-Rich people
-Techy coder types

Everyday, day after day.

You forgot terrorists.

Oh, and emigrants sending part of their paychecks home.

Or do the terrorists count as degenerates and the emigrants as rich people (in their native countries)?

Or the other way around?

It isn't a comprehensive list.

Quote from: inca on December 18, 2015, 01:36:10 AM

I see this thread continues to degenerate..

Don't talk about me like that. I'm trying my best Cry

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 18, 2015, 08:13:37 AM

Well, that was fun?

Did it actually happen?

Quote from: suda123 on December 18, 2015, 09:48:02 AM

Quote from: equipoise on December 18, 2015, 08:57:54 AM

Quote from: r0ach on December 18, 2015, 08:51:16 AM

Quote from: equipoise on December 18, 2015, 08:47:54 AM

It seems this is the top. Is it slow bleeding from here or flash crashes? Sooner or later the 300-370 range should be tasted again to confirm a healthy organic grow. To me it seems highly doubtful a new bubble starts now, but who knows.

It sounds like you went full fiat at $230 and are mad the price went up. Somebody blew up the exchange with an abnormally big sell right at the start of a price rise. It was either on purpose to try and stop it from rising or they did it on accident.

I didn't sold a single satoshi, but I also didn't bought any after the 310 mark. I would buy some in a flash crash to the same range.

I don't trust that smug face of yours

Look out, kid. They keep it all hid

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/lawyer-reveals-details-about-the-man-behind-bitcoins-45-million-ponzi-scheme

Something the old timers might remember.

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 18, 2015, 04:14:29 PM

Quote from: Karartma1 on December 18, 2015, 03:29:11 PM

Hi Jimbo!

Feeling awesome today, huh?

I think likewise about your theory and one does not need to be a damn conspiracy theorist to see what is happening out there. It's called pure and simple observation.
Have a good coffee!

Observation r us. Walls included.

And yes thanks, the coffee is good... Mocha-Java, full city roast, freshly ground, less than a week out of the roaster, double-double. Mmmm.

Is there really a genuine rebittance market? I thought that was an urban legend?

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 18, 2015, 04:37:23 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2015, 04:26:08 PM

Is there really a genuine rebittance market? I thought that was an urban legend?

I thought that was Bitcoin's main purpose, not as the vehicle for speculation that it seems to have become.

Has a valuable asset transfer tool become just another roulette wheel or slot machine?

I mean, we know China is using it to transfer value out of the country. But are poor foreign workers really using it??

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 18, 2015, 11:09:56 PM

Quote from: fisheater22 on December 18, 2015, 11:07:08 PM

To be fair to small-blockers, there's simply no elegant way to scale Bitcoin.
Some things just ain't meant to be Sad

Nothing wrong with Ugly Early.

That's what she said. Cry

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 18, 2015, 11:21:26 PM

Quote from: wachtwoord on December 18, 2015, 11:19:35 PM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 18, 2015, 11:11:28 PM

Quote from: AlexGR on December 18, 2015, 10:46:44 PM

They have the incentive but they are not configured accordingly. Not all of them. That's why dust/spam/no-fee and "stress test" txs get processed.

Have you used the network lately? No-fee transactions aren't getting included, and definitely won't be once priority is removed. Dust and spam should not be subjectively determined, fee per kb is all that matters. Miners have a very real incentive to keep their blocks to a reasonable size, it's called orphan risk.

I send a zero fee transaction yesterday. It was included in the first block.

I never pay a fee if I don't have to and still I'm in favor of rising fees, by limiting supply (of space).

Enjoy it while it lasts.

At some point there will have to be a fees market because of the halvenings, right? Has anyone crunched the numbers? Are there studies? What will it look like?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 18, 2015, 11:45:31 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2015, 11:40:36 PM

^What he said. Don't make me open up my Multibit!

Multibit, eh?

Hmmm....

You might wanna check it again in the morning.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 18, 2015, 11:32:42 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 18, 2015, 11:25:52 PM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 18, 2015, 11:21:26 PM

Quote from: wachtwoord on December 18, 2015, 11:19:35 PM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 18, 2015, 11:11:28 PM

Quote from: AlexGR on December 18, 2015, 10:46:44 PM

They have the incentive but they are not configured accordingly. Not all of them. That's why dust/spam/no-fee and "stress test" txs get processed.

Have you used the network lately? No-fee transactions aren't getting included, and definitely won't be once priority is removed. Dust and spam should not be subjectively determined, fee per kb is all that matters. Miners have a very real incentive to keep their blocks to a reasonable size, it's called orphan risk.

I send a zero fee transaction yesterday. It was included in the first block.

I never pay a fee if I don't have to and still I'm in favor of rising fees, by limiting supply (of space).

Enjoy it while it lasts.

At some point there will have to be a fees market because of the halvenings, right? Has anyone crunched the numbers? Are there studies? What will it look like?

Everybody agrees that there will be a fee market. Some just want to force it now, before the drop to 12.5 btc per block, which I think is ridiculously early and would be using the wrong (artificial vs market determined) mechanism. In the future, miners will be much more sensitive to their fee pricing, and the fee load will be spread over many more network users.

I just assume that technology will keep apace with increases. Is there any in principle reason that bigger and bigger blocks would necessarily lead to more centalization?

@Fatman Or that time I invested in RochambeauCoin on Cryptsy

I love listening to you guys talk.

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 19, 2015, 01:23:41 AM

what we need to be talking about now isn't block limit but TX manubillity and opening up bitcoin's scripting capabilities Wink

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Would be an uphill battle for another coin to muscle out BTC.

I agree. It would take a pretty significant advantage for some other coin to capture Bitcoin's market share. I believe the fact that such an XCoin competitor would be usable by people directly due to tps capability, rather than requiring all users to line up behind centralized aggregated access providers required by a 4 tps Bitcoin, may be such an advantage.

Further, once everyone is using these centralized aggregated access providers anyhow, what is the motivation of these centralized actors to continue to use the relatively expensive Bitcoin, rather than the more capable, cheaper XCoin?

That's a good point, we know the banks are looking hard at their own centralized crypto as well as other major developers, but all will have to overcome the image of being centralized as well as provide blockchain integrity of some sort though hashing? I don't know of any other way to support a blockchain. So even with a new coin(s) I still think somehow BTC will be the gold standard of sorts... were as their new more efficient and probably targeted use coins, will convert to BTC... IDK, I'm sure many fall asleep at night wondering about all of this

Litecoin is faster and presumably has the potential to be equally secure. (I believe.) Wasn't that the test to pass?

@Tera Serenity NOW!

I guess a concern (for someone who was prone to be concerned about such things) could be that we become victim of too much adoption too quicky (Santa?), transactions get all jammy and we're just as quickly disowned.

Isn't it?

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 19, 2015, 01:57:16 AM

I guess a concern (for someone who was prone to be concerned about such things) could be that we become of victim of too much adoption too quicky (Santa?), transactions get all jammy and we're just as quickly disowned.

Yep and that's what all the fuss is about lol I don't think short term its a big issue resulting in that... but will have to be reckoned with one day soon.

In deep Bitcoin time then, a scenerio where fees replace block rewards is inevitable. Is that right?

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Quote from: MinermanNC on December 19, 2015, 02:00:30 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 19, 2015, 01:57:16 AM

I guess a concern (for someone who was prone to be concerned about such things) could be that we become of victim of too much adoption too quicky (Santa?), transactions get all jammy and we're just as quickly disowned.

Yep and that's what all the fuss is about lol I don't think short term its a big issue resulting in that... but will have to be reckoned with one day soon.

In deep Bitcoin time then, a scenerio where fees replace block rewards is inevitable. Is that right?

How much money did you invest before figuring this out?

Don't answer that, I am inclined to think you are doing some kind of dialectical exercise... Cheesy

So wait, what's a Bitcoin again?

And are there any use-cases that will become unviable because of a creeping fees market?

What coins I have left are the result of drug deals. Lots of drug deals. Wink

It isn't easy to imagine life in deep Bitcoin time. Self-driving cars paying to pass eachother on the highway. Stuff like that.

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It isn't easy to imagine life in deep Bitcoin time. Self-driving cars paying to pass eachother on the highway. Stuff like that.

Quote from: Pieter Wuille on February 18, 2013, 10:02:52 PM

First of all, my opinion: I'm in favor of increasing the block size limit in a hard fork, but very much against removing the limit entirely. Bitcoin is a consensus of its users, who all agreed (or will need to agree) to a very strict set of rules that would allow people to build global decentralized payment system. I think very few people understand a forever-limited block size to be part of these rules.

However, with no limit on block size, it effectively becomes miners who are in control of _everyone_'s block size. As a non-miner, this is not something I want them to decide for me. Perhaps the tragedy of the commons can be avoided, and long-term rational thinking will kick in, and miners can be trusted with choosing an appropriate block size. But maybe not, and if just one miner starts creating gigabyte blocks, while all the rest agrees on 10 MiB blocks, ugly block-shunning rules will be necessary to avoid such blocks from filling everyone's hard drive (yes, larger block's slower relay will make them unlikely to be accepted, but it just requires one lucky fool to succeed...).

I think retep raises very good points here: the block size (whether voluntarily or enforced) needs to result in a system that remains verifiable for many. What those many are will probably change gradually. Over time, more and more users will probably move to SPV nodes (or more centralized things like e-wallet sites), and that is fine. But if we give up the ability for non-megacorp entities to be able to verify the chain, we might as well be using those a central clearinghouse. There is of course wide spectrum between "I can download the entire chain on my phone" and "Only 5 bank companies in the world can run a fully verifying node", but I think it's important that we choose what point in between there is acceptable.

My suggestion would be a one-time increase to perhaps 10 MiB or 100 MiB blocks (to be debated), and after that an at-most slow exponential further growth. This would mean no for-eternity limited size, but also no way for miners to push up block sizes to the point where they are in sole control of the network. I realize that some people will consider this an arbitrary and unnecessary limit, but others will probably consider it dangerous already. In any case, it's a compromise and I believe one will be necessary.

Quote from: caveden on February 18, 2013, 08:48:37 PM

Great posts from Mike and Gavin in this thread. There's indeed no reason to panic over "too much centralization". Actually, setting an arbitrary limit (or an arbitrary formula to set the limit) is the very definition of "central planning", while letting it get spontaneously set is the very definition of "decentralized order".

Then I think you misunderstand what a hard fork entails. The only way a hard fork can succeed is when _everyone_ agrees to it. Developers, miners, merchants, users, ... everyone. A hard fork that succeeds is the ultimate proof that Bitcoin as a whole is a consensus of its users (and not just a consensus of miners, who are only given authority to decide upon the order of otherwise valid transactions).

Realize that Bitcoin's decentralization only comes from very strict - and sometimes arbitrary - rules (why this particular 50/25/12.5 payout scheme, why ECDSA, why only those opcodes in scripts, ...) that were set right from the start and agreed upon by everyone who ever used the system. Were those rules "central planning" too?

Isn't a public ledger grand Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.msg1059272#msg1059272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlJkec-CQRM

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Repeating past statements, it is acknowledged that Peter’s scorched
   earth replace-by-fee proposal is aptly named, and would be widely
   anti-social on the current network
   — Jeff Garzik

https://medium.com/@octskyward/replace-by-fee-43edd9a1dd6d#.i51ri5mmg

RBF isn't cool. It ain't cool Adam!!

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 19, 2015, 11:34:06 PM

Who knows?

Hey! That's not my ass!

Is it?

It IS!

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 20, 2015, 12:43:30 AM

Nevermind. He has his very own thread now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1294314.msg13301484#msg13301484

And nerds are like moth to a flame.

They should all have to do a stint on 4chan before signing up....

@Buy More Coins Don't troll innocents, you psychopath Angry

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 19, 2015, 11:06:22 PM

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Repeating past statements, it is acknowledged that Peter’s scorched
   earth replace-by-fee proposal is aptly named, and would be widely
   anti-social on the current network
   — Jeff Garzik

https://medium.com/@octskyward/replace-by-fee-43edd9a1dd6d#.i51ri5mmg

RBF isn't cool. It ain't cool Adam!!

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 20, 2015, 09:35:16 AM

Chilling words from the merchant of evil: Tim Cook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQebmygKq7A

we're America we should have both privacy AND national security.

.... can't the government just do their damn jobs and stop blaming their messed up shit on the people wanting privacy and freedom?

Can't the core devs just do their damn jobs and fix the scaling problem?

Peter Todd says it's not Core's job to offer scaling solutions. He's giving you scotched-earth RBF. What more do you people want from him??

Quote from: niktitan132 on December 20, 2015, 04:52:33 PM

I just bought two at $446!
See you at $1400

Buy a puppy, they said. It won't murder you in your sleep. They said.

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I recently lost ~100$ playing DICE, i lost 10$ then i sent another 10$ trying to double it to get my money back, then i sent 40...50... and then cashed out 55$ Cheesy

First time playing BTC DICE games ( normally i play poker )lots of fun, but ya you can lose lots fast! i'll stick with poker, if you have any skill you can usually play indefinitely with like 50$

just saying... games are fun.

If you don't stop degen-ing away your coins... Stop degen-ing away your coins! I don't mean to do Lambie's job for him or anything. But listen: it ain't cool, Adam. It isn't cool.

gambling 50$ is cool and you know it.

Ya. I know it. Tongue

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 20, 2015, 05:04:19 PM

choo choo?

where's choo choo?

Just clearing the tracks...

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Quote from: rpietila on December 20, 2015, 07:06:19 PM

Follow the weekly Bitstamp chart. If it closes green for 6 times in a row, we are on bubble territory (currently 4 consecutive weekly greens). If we instead end this week in red, there is nothing to worry.

IF we get 6 greens, this means we can go on for a long time still but watch for a blowoff top and trade accordingly.

The methodology worked perfect in the latest 500 spike, and you can easily check a very good match with all previous bubbles as well.

First TERA and now Risto- we're getting the band back together!

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Quote from: rpietila on December 20, 2015, 07:06:19 PM

Follow the weekly Bitstamp chart. If it closes green for 6 times in a row, we are on bubble territory (currently 4 consecutive weekly greens). If we instead end this week in red, there is nothing to worry.

IF we get 6 greens, this means we can go on for a long time still but watch for a blowoff top and trade accordingly.

The methodology worked perfect in the latest 500 spike, and you can easily check a very good match with all previous bubbles as well.

First TERA and now Risto- we're getting the band back together!

no better indicator of a bull market than old-timers becoming active again

Hold on there, Pardner. Don't confuse cause and effect. All that means is the price is higher. The bull market isn't really back until the ATH is topped. That won't happen without a scaling fix because long before we get to four digits, we'll slam into the 1MB blocksize limit.

When the blocks are totally full, the fees could go up 100X what they are now because there is only enough capacity for ~600,000 transactions per day. That's it, no matter how high the fees go, there won't be enough capacity for each of us to have even one xation/day each. NO MATTER HOW HIGH THE FEES GO.

You don't wait until the snow starts falling before you start chopping firewood. It's coming.

I imagine you've fallen into some sort of math hole here.

Well, I never really wanted to buy coffee with bitcoins anyway. I don't even drink coffee.

Is this relevant?

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 20, 2015, 08:30:20 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 20, 2015, 08:23:08 PM

Well, I never really wanted to buy coffee with bitcoins anyway. I don't even drink coffee.

Is this relevant?

Pepsi or Coca Cola?

Edit:

Satoshi talked about smallish consumer transactions like vending machines and porn. Did he fall into a math hole?? Huh

Quote from: vanobe on December 20, 2015, 09:06:45 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 20, 2015, 08:42:42 PM

Satoshi talked about smallish consumer transactions like vending machines and porn. Did he fall into a math hole?? Huh

Can you quote a Satoshi post where he talks about porn?

Most of his posts were about technical things, and I didn't think he would talk about anything else. I haven't read all his posts, but enough of them to know the technical talk in them goes way over my head.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877568.20;wap2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671.msg13844#msg13844

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 21, 2015, 01:36:26 AM

So what's the probability of Bitcoin becoming the World Reserve Currency if the on chain transaction capacity is 500,000/day? Zero. The IMF's SDR has a higher capacity than that nowand most people don't even know what the hell I'm talking about.

With eight billion people on the planet, that would be only 1 transaction per day for every 8,000 people ( 2 people per xaction). or one send and one recieve for only 1 in 16,000 people. That means that almost everything would be handled by middlemen, the same bankster assholes Bitcoin was created to route around.

Anything less than 20 BTC will have to be delivered by paper wallet, in the mail. Grin

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Quote from: peonminer on December 21, 2015, 01:49:04 AM

Doubtful $330 will hold this time.

It dropped by $30 so you think it will drop $100 more? Undecided

If wishes were horses...

Anyway, I'm sure it'll all work out for the best.

.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xnchr/rand_corporation_is_researching_how_to_destroy/

Sinister.

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Level I and II

DDOS
51%, not specifically by accruing mining power but instead compromising mining pools via hacking or otherwise. "In such a manner, an attacker with relatively little initial resources could mount a 51 percent attack on Bit- coin."
Compromising 3rd parties, either degrading service or stealing keys

Level III and IV

Zero day attacks, vague references to this consensus code implicating hard forks
Zero day attacks to take control of pool operators and 51%. "Even in the decentralized case, advanced opponents can successfully exploit specific targets with high probability and canpublically target high-net-worth individuals to reduce confidence in the currency (or can randomly target average citizens to sow distrust)."
"Tier IV opponents would likely have the capability to construct and use zero-day exploits against critical VC services such as exchanges and wallets as well as cell-phone applications used to conduct everyday transactions. Indeed, they may look to use fake permissions and certificates to install applications that subvert (or spy on) user VC applications. They would then either disrupt those applications or publicize vulnerabilities to degrade confidence in a VC."

Level V and VI

Supply chain attacks. "Weakening of hardware, backdoors in hardware and software. They might target cell phones or other hardware, including computers used as servers for critical VC services or special-purpose hardware used for mining, and corrupt them before delivery."
Broken cryptography.
Human attacks. "to bribe or otherwise co-opt such per- sonnel, either within a VC’s organization or at other organizations that provide critical services to a VC."

Quote from: ShroomsKit on April 25, 2014, 05:55:57 AM

Why does this ridiculous panic continue? Wth is wrong with these idiots!

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2015, 05:36:53 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xnchr/rand_corporation_is_researching_how_to_destroy/

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The Department of Defense should be aware of the following:

[Virtual Currencies]'s represent the latest step toward decentralized cyber services.
In particular, the historical trend suggests the development
of a resilient public cyber key terrain, which this report
defines as the ability of unsophisticated cyber actors to have
persistent, assured access to cyber services regardless of whether
a highly sophisticated state actor opposes their use. This has
implications for national firewalls, access to extremist rhetoric,
the feasibility of nation-state cyber attacks, and the ability to
maintain uninterruptible and anonymous encrypted links.

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This report will examine the potential for terrorist, insurgent,
or criminal groups to increase their political and/or economic power
by deploying a VC to use as a currency for regular economic transactions
rather than exploiting existing VCs as a means of illicit transfer,
fundraising, or money laundering.

First page of the summary:

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This report examines the potential for non-state actors, including
terrorist and insurgent groups, to increase their political and/or economic
power by deploying a VC as a medium for regular economic transactions
as opposed to exploiting already-deployed virtual currencies,
such as Bitcoin, as a means of illicit transfer, fundraising, or money
laundering.

Ya. That's what I said...

They do go on to say it wouldn’t be that difficult for a state-actor to totally disrupt us.

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Ultimately, it seems clear that a non-state actor (indeed, even a
state actor) would face significant challenges against a determined hightiered
opponent given the underlying assumptions and implementation
of VCs. As a general matter, a high-tiered opponent would be able
to successfully attack any target of interest in cyberspace if enough
resources were invested. In the case of a VC, which would require trust,
anonymity, and availability of widely deployed cyber services (such as
wallet and mining applications), it seems infeasible that a consistently
successful cyber defense can be mounted. The only hope might be
if the non-state actor were supported by a sophisticated nation-state
opponent who was capable of defending against such threats. Even in
this scenario, it is unclear whether such coordination would work, particularly
in the case of a Tier V and VI opponent.

If a state-actor wanted to totally disrupt us it would be simpler and cheaper for it to ban bitcoin in its state. America considered banning bitcoin and decided against it. If America wanted to totally disrupt us it wouldn't need to mount sophisticated cyber attacks, it could ban bitcoin instead.

The USA isn't the only state-actor on the world stage.

Anyway I don't think it's a controversial point; Satoshi had no illusions about being beyond the reach of state power.

@BJA Tim Swanson wrote a paper about how adding exogenous value onto a network that cannot detect and dynamically protect the exogenous value is a bad idea. It was hard to disagree.

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The metacoins and colored coin projects listed above unquestionably increase the social value
of the chain, yet they do not proportionally incentivize security beyond the existing block
reward (seigniorage) subsidy. This could lead to an economic incentive to attack the chain, a
type of fat tail risk that could dramatically impact any layer residing on top of the Bitcoin
network.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 21, 2015, 11:21:11 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2015, 11:03:33 PM

@BJA Tim Swanson wrote a paper about how adding exogenous value onto a network that cannot detect and dynamically protect the exogenous value is a bad idea. It was hard to disagree.

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The metacoins and colored coin projects listed above unquestionably increase the social value
of the chain, yet they do not proportionally incentivize security beyond the existing block
reward (seigniorage) subsidy. This could lead to an economic incentive to attack the chain, a
type of fat tail risk that could dramatically impact any layer residing on top of the Bitcoin
network.

The network is ridiculously oversecure for it's current market cap. How many goddamn exaflops or whatever?

You might be able to snow the noobs with technobabble but I've been around too long. I'm not buying.

I've heard it's way oversecure. Good point. Idk.

I'm not trying to snow a n00b. Undecided

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Quote from: aminorex on December 09, 2015, 08:15:08 PM

Monkey vision: Drop towards 390 support intraday, rising trend to continue thereafter on a daily basis, and over the weekend.

You know this is wrong

Monkey now sees at least one week downtrend, 362 support.

The wrong bit was you keeping that monkey in a cage forcing it to watch Bitccoin charts.

And giving it Rage Virus was probably against an international convention or two.

Quote from: jbreher on December 21, 2015, 11:53:32 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2015, 11:03:33 PM

@BJA Tim Swanson wrote a paper about how adding exogenous value onto a network that cannot detect and dynamically protect the exogenous value is a bad idea. It was hard to disagree.

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The metacoins and colored coin projects listed above unquestionably increase the social value
of the chain, yet they do not proportionally incentivize security beyond the existing block
reward (seigniorage) subsidy. This could lead to an economic incentive to attack the chain, a
type of fat tail risk that could dramatically impact any layer residing on top of the Bitcoin
network.

I guess I would have thought that would have been self-evident for anybody that pondered the prospect with any seriousness.

So racist. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 22, 2015, 12:48:06 AM

The technical consens-o-tron bids you farewell! Grin

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Quote from: klee on December 21, 2015, 10:18:36 PM

In case you missed it:

https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases

Does this mean that there will be more than 21 million bitcons?

Ehmmm...no??

But I am not a very reliable source for answers like this Tongue

What does it mean then? On the page there are only some names listed....?

Means they finally found consensus regarding the block size limit, which will be increased.

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1165
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html

"TL;DR: I propose we work immediately towards the segwit 4MB block
soft-fork which increases capacity and scalability, and recent speedups
and incoming relay improvements make segwit a reasonable risk. BIP9
and segwit will also make further improvements easier and faster to
deploy. We’ll continue to set the stage for non-bandwidth-increase-based
scaling, while building additional tools that would make bandwidth
increases safer long term. Further work will prepare Bitcoin for further
increases, which will become possible when justified, while also providing
the groundwork to make them justifiable."

Just to clarify... segwit would likely result in the tx level equivalent of 1.75-2MB blocks. Only if every transaction was multisig would the 4MB equivalent be reached (translation: it won't).

Precedent that hard forks are "bad and scary" remains firmly in place, to be rolled out again the next time we have this argument.

This is from two weeks ago, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a market reaction.

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Quote from: jbreher on December 21, 2015, 11:53:32 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 21, 2015, 11:03:33 PM

@BJA Tim Swanson wrote a paper about how adding exogenous value onto a network that cannot detect and dynamically protect the exogenous value is a bad idea. It was hard to disagree.

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The metacoins and colored coin projects listed above unquestionably increase the social value
of the chain, yet they do not proportionally incentivize security beyond the existing block
reward (seigniorage) subsidy. This could lead to an economic incentive to attack the chain, a
type of fat tail risk that could dramatically impact any layer residing on top of the Bitcoin
network.

I guess I would have thought that would have been self-evident for anybody that pondered the prospect with any seriousness.

So racist. Roll Eyes

whaaaat!?

Because we were both ripping on colored coins... Dumb joke. Tongue

Quote from: jbreher on December 22, 2015, 07:35:19 AM

Quote from: suda123 on December 22, 2015, 05:20:51 AM

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

What the heck does a decades-old report on a theoretical centralized digital cash system have to do with anything?

@JJG Be nice, you. It’s Christmas!

But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.

Embarrassed

Hi there. I’m BlindMayorBitcorn, Hero member at Bitcointalk. AMA!

Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 22, 2015, 09:06:44 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 22, 2015, 07:45:57 PM

Hi there. I’m BlindMayorBitcorn, Hero member at Bitcointalk. AMA!

Congratulations!!

Do you get a superpower!

Nope.

What would happen if Gavin just up and locked everybody out of the repo?

From Reddit:

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Peter's idea is not to replace Core with a different team in the repo, it's to nuke the repo so that ALL teams have to post their offerings in new repos that don't have the privileged position of being historically connected to Satoshi - a privileged position that Core now enjoys.

Quote from: Richy_T on December 22, 2015, 09:32:24 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 22, 2015, 09:29:02 PM

What would happen if Gavin just up and locked everybody out of the repo?

From Reddit:

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Peter's idea is not to replace Core with a different team in the repo, it's to nuke the repo so that ALL teams have to post their offerings in new repos that don't have the privileged position of being historically connected to Satoshi - a privileged position that Core now enjoys.

Is that Peter Todd? I consider him the most dangerous man to Bitcoin's future but that might not be a bad idea. If it didn't come from him and Theymos wasn't holding the keys to the gateways to Bitcoin information.

Peter R.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 22, 2015, 10:55:15 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 22, 2015, 07:45:57 PM

Hi there. I’m BlindMayorBitcorn, Hero member at Bitcointalk. AMA!

Congratulations bro!

I will be joining you at the next activity points update in 2 weeks Grin

We're the hero's Gotham needs, not the one's it deserves.

Who is BtcDrak? And other good questions

Best answer:

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I don't know much about his prior history, but early last year he launched an altcoin called Viacoin (ironically out of frustrations with the Core dev team), who's main advantage over other altcoins was that it had a meta-coin layer on top for issuing assets etc. called Clearinghouse - except that "Clearinghouse" is actually just a fork/clone of Counterparty, which had just been released a month or so earlier (thus mostly unknown), and which conveniently is barely mentioned at all, the protocol marketed as if he built it himself (he didn't). A whole crap ton of Viacoin was pre-mined and then sold in a crowdsale for a total of around ~600 BTC. So while Counterparty folks did a burn of 2100 BTC, btcdrak took the same code and used it to raise a serious chunk of cash for himself. Meanwhile, Peter Todd had recently had an episode on LTB where he talked about his "tree chains" concept, supposedly vastly better than sidechains. btcdrak thought this was amazing and proceeded to hire Peter explicitly to develop the Tree Chains concept for Viacoin, using his stash earned from pre-mining (mostly a PR stunt IMO). Tree Chains apparantly went nowhere and never happened, but instead Peter became "Chief Scientist" of Viacoin (and more recently abandoned that title, IIRC) . Ever since then, Peter and Drak seem to always show up in the same places, pushing the same viewpoints etc.. and now btcdrak has managed to integrate himself in the inner circle of Core devs, most likely thanks to Peter's help.

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...how do you picture yourself when you post?

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 22, 2015, 04:11:51 AM

Artificial scarcity of coins in addition to artificial scarcity of blockspace is just too much scarcity for me, so i'm gonna make myself scarce but I gotta cash out first.

Too much talk, not enough action. Sell your coins and MTFO.

billyjoeallen and i usually agree, and this is no exception, I too will get out if block limit isn't addressed and fees rise. luckily it won't come to that... but if it does, and for some ODD reason devs decide to never touch the block limit, i think i'd be lucky to get >200$ a coin. not fixing this is basically declaring that bitcoin can NOT be "the future of money", and inviting everyone to produce a crypto that can.

Kind of weird that I'm kinda hoping for a purely speculative bubble, rather than real adoption. The line between BTC and a ponzi/pyramid is getting blurry as long as this thing doesn't scale.

At least core devs seem to agree that scaling needs to be addressed. It wasn't a given.

Edit: Is the Jeff Garzik BIP 202 still on the table?

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Who is BtcDrak? And other good questions

There were a lot of people didn't take a liking to Jorge but he's definitely always been sincere and honest in my book.

If I had a Most Valuable Posters list he'd be on it; and NotLambchop, who's been technically absent for quite some time. Lips sealed

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Anyone here noticed that China CCMFs? Cool

wat is dis

More scandalous lies. Angry

^I'm getting demoted for this, aren't I?

R3 is suing Peter Todd! Huh

https://twitter.com/ummjackson/status/679066455200022528

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 23, 2015, 06:56:58 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xwium/bitcoin_core_capacity_increases_faq_part_1/cy8oj9q

Masking the truth with self-deprecating humor... cute!

Wise beyond his years...

/s

Owners of Bit-Coin unveil their solution to effectively persuade all butters to use their more expensive and cumbersome vaporware product

The Professor finally has the last laugh. Sad

@Meuh6879

Have you seen some of the slimy adverts on this forum?

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Owners of Bit-Coin unveil their solution to effectively persuade all butters to use their more expensive and cumbersome vaporware product

The Professor finally has the last laugh. Sad

He got this right:

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What the LN guys are trying to do is to invent banking as it might have been first imagined 4000 years ago

ha!

I have to admit to being fully and completely disillusioned by this. Embarrassed

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Are all LN transactions publicly queryable like blockchain transactions are?

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No.

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So, if I spend coins immediately, I likely won't even be on the blockchain? There will be no longterm public record of me controlling the bitcoin at all? I assume the wallet that sent me coins would have a record of that, and the party I sent them to would see they came from me, just not publicly available.

Doesn't the Rosewater Foundation have any pull here?

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"Thus the Bitcoin dream turned belly up, turned green, bobbed to the scummy surface of cupidity unlimited, filled with gas, went bang in the noonday sun.”
--God Bless You, Mr. Nakamoto

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Doesn't the Rosewater Foundation have any pull here?

No, apparently Sad

“The electricity is after me again, Mr. Nakamoto. I had to call! I'm so scared!”

Thus did a handful of rapacious citizens come to control all that was worth controlling in Bitcoinland.

Embarrassed

Quote from: Dr.CATCATO on December 23, 2015, 11:32:18 PM

"Where did the anarcap utopia go? The answer is obvious my friends. It is the BLOCKSTREAM?
Covetous BLOCKSTREAM, who have taken all our greatest dream and hoarded it for themselves. And hidden our hopes in some secret BLOCKSTREAM Cave that they built, probably back in the early 60’s…" --Ludwig von Blockstream

I heard that, ~~brother~~Blockstream.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 23, 2015, 11:55:21 PM

Are you prepared for the fullblocalypse?

Hdbuck told me Gavin works for the USG. Don't be a statist shill. Make all your transactions through LN or you're probably a statist shill, just like Gavin.

Someone tell me I'm blowing this out of proportion. A fees market is something we were always going to have to adjust for. Right? And payment channels are the best we can do without compromising security by scaling. Right? Embarrassed

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 24, 2015, 12:35:11 AM

sheesh ... trolls don't even get christmas off? ... you guys need to be paid more.

I'm not trolling. I'm thinking!

Can I buy shares of Blockstream with Bitcoins? Undecided

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*Blockchain^TM Technology is a registered trademark and property of the Blockstream corporation. Fuck you.

Time to put all our differences aside for Christmas and moon rockets! Shocked

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The block limit is the technological limit that constrains the on-chain capacity, the arise of fees is the free market reaction.

People representing 90% of global hashrate disagreed during their panel in HK.

The idea that 1MB, "scaling" up to 1.75MB equiv with the gradual rollout of segwit, well into 2017... is the technological limit? That's BS and you know it.

The important part of their plan is that hard forks remain "controversial".

Currently the network node operators are overwhelmingly supporting 1MByte block limits, so that is the reality of the technological limit on the network today.

How that changes in the future is the subject of much debate, as you well know.

I was attempting to get causality straight in BJA's mind.

You have to admit that Core has a certain sort of inertia. There's a big chunk of operators still plugging along on previous versions of Core. I also haven't seen an alternative that has the level of ongoing support that I'm comfortable with... so far. I really had high hopes for some kind of good will compromise between the opposing forces (ala garzik), bringing us back together with a common purpose... but it appears that is not going to be the case.

https://github.com/jgarzik/bips/blob/87aacb6a58d3c63a5dd2082a566b763dd22f919e/bip-0202.mediawiki
Just a little hard-fork? Like a tiny salad fork? What's the harm?

https://chrispacia.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/lightning-network-skepticism/

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I like the idea of the lightning network. I think the developers behind it are very smart and it’s a very clever use of Bitcoin contracts. I’m sure that whatever comes from it will be useful to some parts of the Bitcoin ecosystem at a minimum. What I’m not for, however, is prematurely deprecating critical parts of bitcoin (zeroconf transactions and low transaction fees) when it’s not yet clear that the lightning network will be a viable replacement for them. Yet that’s what the core developers seems bent on doing.

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*takes off moon boots*

Christmas should be about Jesus anyway.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 25, 2015, 02:35:51 AM

BASE TEN MATH

Some day in the near future, Ten or more companies will make 10K transactions or more each. These are your usual suspects: Circle, 21, Coinbase, Bitpay, and some large exchanges.
10 X 10000 =100,000

On that same day, 100 smaller companies are going to make 1K transactions or more each. These are companies like purse.io, bitquick, small gambling sites, smaller exchanges, darknet sales, etc.
100 X 1,000=100,000

Also on that same day, 1000 or more companies will make 100 or more transactions selling goods, remittances, etc.
1,000 X 100=100,000

But we can't forget about the much more common small businesses and individual heavy users who will make ten or more transactions that day.
10,000 X 10=100,000

And then you have people like you and me who may make just one transaction.
100,000 X 1=100,000

So that fills up the entire days worth of blocks and then some, but we still have the light users, the ones who do maybe 1 transaction every 10 days:
1,000,000 x 0.1 =100,000

How many transactions is that? 600K? way too many. So fees creep up. 10% decide that the cost is too high in time or fees and give up. How many left? 500K. still too many. Fees keep going up. Transactions take hours to confirm. This makes some traders nervous, and they start pulling coins off exchanges. Traffic increases by the same 10% who gave up. This makes other people nervous. Coinbase and Bitpay users start to users start to fear their business model is unworkable and move their coins to private wallets. This increases traffic even more. It now takes 10 hours to confirm a transaction.

At this point, Ten of the many, many enemies of bitcoin see an opportunity. For $10,000 in fees, they flood the blockchain with yet MORE transactions, increasing the panic which of course makes even more people want to move their coins around. When they see how effective this attack is, they go for the kill and spend $100,000 to back up traffic for 10 days.

What would happen after that is unpredictable, beyond the singularity. What do you think might happen?

Fullblocalypse?

Are the severe block size limitation and the plan to switch to Lightning going to destroy all non-monetary applications of the Bitcoin blockchain?

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There are literally zero legitimate non-monetary applications of the Bitcoin blockchain, almost by definition, so yes, hopefully Lightning and/or other improvements will destroy spam as much as possible.

Proof-of-existence/"notary" does not need to spam the blockchain. Proof-of-ownership does not exist. Coloured coins are monetary and Lightning-compatible (in theory). Voting systems have no sane use of the blockchain. None of these have any reason to be abusing OP_RETURN.

The rare use case which actually needs a blockchain for non-monetary purposes (eg, "BitDNS" aka Namecoin) can just as well use a sidechain.

P.S. One could argue that Bitcoin blockchain was never intended to be used by such services, but that would mean that Bitcoin Core developers' actions lack consistency: first they introduce OP_RETURN, people start businesses, then they say "sorry, no more OP_RETURN outputs".

OP_RETURN was never meant for such abuses, only to commit to a hash of external data tied to a monetary transaction. (And even that is apparently unnecessary now.)

Reliable opt-in RBF is quite necessary for Lightning

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3ttz1o/it_actually_doesnt_really_matter_if_blockstream/

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What a putzy dump! Roll Eyes

Merry freakin Christmas

One day the sun will engulf the Earth, destroying the entire biosphere. No carbon-based human will ever traverse interstellar space. There's no such thing as a free lunch is a universal truth with deep expanatory power. No soup for you.

Company Overview of Blockstream Corp

_{Annual Compensation}
There is no Annual Compensation data available.
_{Stocks Options}
There is no Stock Options data available.
_{Total Compensation}
There is no Total Compensation data available.

Note to selves:

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There'll come a day when price movement will be 400-500$ a day....

...and we won't even be excited with them Roll Eyes

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Company Overview of Blockstream Corp

_{Annual Compensation}
There is no Annual Compensation data available.
_{Stocks Options}
There is no Stock Options data available.
_{Total Compensation}
There is no Total Compensation data available.

Note to selves:

How comforting. I guess they felt the need to clarify.

Edit: They should have Kudos for originality though. I guess they think slogans are open source.

It isn't a publically traded company. They don't have to tell you their slogan. Angry

Just wait until the next Blockstream Core suite of products is released. Moon!

If Core development can be hijacked by a for profit corporation then I might as well be all in PayPal. Bloody humbug.

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If Core development can be hijacked by a for profit corporation then I might as well be all in PayPal. Bloody humbug.

bye!

Go suck a Blockstream. I'm not finished yet.

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If Core development can be hijacked by a for profit corporation then I might as well be all in PayPal. Bloody humbug.

bye!

Go suck a Blockstream. I'm not finished yet.

I wonder how you'll feel when you use your first sidechain or make your first SegWit transaction Cheesy

No matter how benevolent it thinks it is a corporation is still a sociopath. You don't think it's dangerous on principle to cede control of development like this?

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If Core development can be hijacked by a for profit corporation then I might as well be all in PayPal. Bloody humbug.

bye!

Go suck a Blockstream. I'm not finished yet.

I wonder how you'll feel when you use your first sidechain or make your first SegWit transaction Cheesy

No matter how benevolent it thinks it is a corporation is still a sociopath. You don't think it's dangerous on principle to cede control of development like this?

The sociopaths are over there : bitco.in

Would you rather we cede development to Mike Hearn & the bankers?

I don't know how to answer that. Are these really the only options?

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@BlindMayorBitcorn: Which part of "A warring two-party system backed by major financial interests is the natural outcome of Freedoms^TM" don't you get?

I should have stayed out of politics. Undecided

Edit: vote Gavin.

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Sub 400 ain't happening gentlemen - Buy now or cry later.

Maybe. But you have what seems to be an irrational belief that the world will start pouring mountains of money into a system that can't accomodate them as users. I find that puzzling.

Quote from: DangerousLenny on December 27, 2015, 09:01:28 PM

Gentlemen, stop!

Your learned debate reawakens the feels I felt upon hearing one retarded kid call another 'dummy.'
ZOMG, DangerousLenny, I thought, why does the short bus have to have its own ridiculous pecking order? Why these irrelevant, hair-splitting distinctions? Who cares if one of you gentlemen has an extra neuron capable of firing, had you but the undamaged synaptic wiring?
Love one another, gentlemen, 'coz God knows no one else will!

TL;DR: Play nice. It doesn't matter. Even if the scaling problem is solved, you'll just fuck up something else.

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Keep faith bitcoiners. Coinbase is actually making something happens regarding the endless scaling controversy.

The power of totalitarian and economics illeterate nerds over Bitcoin is coming to an end ("but... but we have a roadmap" lol).

yes, maybe its the right step, nevertheless......... lol coinbase

corporatist cheerleaders gettin all wet and sassy before their overlord Brian Armstrong and Fred Ehrsam from Goldman Sachs to ph0rk bitcoin and (hopefully) put an end to his useless cash burning regulated service.

edit: go for it kids!

It's not because it's a corporation that it somehow makes them evil. Are you a socialist? That would explain why you love the central planners of Core.

If a better understanding of the issues would harm their profits corporations are incentivized to muddy the waters.

If a company wants to move public opinion to increase profits it has a basket of highly scientific tools at its disposal. What do people believe today? What do we want them to believe tomorrow? What is the most cost-effective way to bring about this change? 40% of Americans believe the world began sometime after the domestication of the dog not because the facts aren't clear but because religious organizations have the same basket of tools and the same incentives to use them. TANSTAAFL^*. It's a grim kind of accounting, but there are always prices to pay. I think what everybody wants to know is how much for your sidechain sandwich? Liquid lunch? Don't I have a meeting this afternoon... Blockstream is made up of Core devs who were so convinced Bitcoin couldn't scale right they created a company, and their company is naturally designed to profit off the overlay. Replace-by-fee is a bad idea, which is neccessary for Lightning Network, which wouldn't be necessary if we could scale right; which we probably can. But we might never know it if we settle for the sandwich.
^*Acronym, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch; this is a concept that has deep explanatory power, in physics (the laws of thermodynamics), evolutionary theory (the biological costs of the peacock's tail), and economics.

Tl;dr Blockstream is convinced we need a sandwich and has set about convincing us we need a sandwich. (It isn't clear we need a sandwich, or how we'll end up paying for it.)

Custodial wallet users gated, just waiting to be slaughtered Shocked

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Coinbase alone claims 3 million users: http://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ye8zv

Even if only 1/3rd of them hold a balance, that means if suddenly half of the block space was to be consumed by Coinbase withdrawals, it would still take several days for all 1 million user's withdrawal requests to be processed (due to block size restriction).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yfxm4/custodial_wallet_users_gated_just_waiting_to_be/

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Quote from: adamstgBit on December 28, 2015, 12:36:40 AM

Soon.

Almost.

Beverage?

omg she starting to ask "where is this going"

WHAT DO I DO!?

Tell her it will be wonderful and full of stars?

Imagine an intense gamma-ray burst burned off the ozone layer? Shocked

It would be centuries before the surface of the Earth was habitable again! Cry

Over a thousand years ago the Cappadocians carved out dozens of cities as far as five stories down; this was mostly to defend against marauding Crusaders. In cities like Montreal they've done it to defend against the elements and I don't think it's hard to imagine a nightmarish not-too-distant future lived entirely in underground shopping malls!

And you all just sitting there. Angry

Go plant a tree at least!

It's also not hard to imagine that when humans really start to live in space evolutionary pressures will select the ones best able to survive in the new environment. In the distant future a species of hominid will be flying around on the shores of a methane lake on one of the moons of Jupiter, shedding sweet tears for its ancestral home.

But they will not return. The east Rift Valley in Africa isn't the same place our ancestors left. They will never return.

Then where will you be!?

I'm not going to argue about this. Angry

No carbon-based lifeform will ever traverse interstellar space. If you want to join the journey to the stars you better get yourself uploaded. And ~~soon~~ eventually!

Same. It was so much easier to relate to him when he wasn't lecturing BJA all the time.

Edit: Baaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!! Someone send me an encrypted message when the train leaves for the moon!

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on December 28, 2015, 11:23:01 PM

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Same. It was so much easier to relate to him when he wasn't lecturing BJA all the time.

Yeah.... we should let BJA alone (insert leave Brittany alone meme here)... Cry

(doesn't matter if he lies or not, so what. Cheesy

Did he wrong you? Go talk to Aztec. You could start a club.

For those times you absolutely, positively demand satisfaction...

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 29, 2015, 01:32:05 AM

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^^Translation: "Fine, sell. I don't care. You sell now, I'll sell later. I don't care."

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

a $4 bump is hardly a reason for train gifs. What does a $10 bump get, rockets?

The train is going sideways...

Don't lecture me!

This thread is probably why there are so many diseases.

Ok. An immunologist walks into a podiatrist's office...

Immunolost: I'd like books explaining the complexity of Distributed Systems; Nexus Causality; and Holism: or what seems to be the counter-intuitive observation that somehow wholes can be more than the sum of their parts.

Secretary: But this is a podiatrist's office.

Immunologist: Sorry. My mistake.

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 29, 2015, 03:49:38 PM

why is everybody ignoring the $10 pump? almost no resistance.

I posted a train yesterday.

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why is everybody ignoring the $10 pump? almost no resistance.

I posted a train yesterday.

The uptrend seems to have been kind of stopped in its tracks, just like your train from yesterday... Cry

It was afraid of r0ach. It turned around.

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And if that confederate flag waving hick, BJA, wants to cash out and make his life more comfortable for himself and his confederate flag waving children, I think he should be allowed to do so in his own time.

Is Gavin the leader of the confederacy since he tried to secede from the union?

And why are you on a Bitcoin forum in the first place if you're always promoting leftist ideals and now anti-confederacy when the confederacy was the original libertarians of this government?

Because I see Bitcoin as an important and exciting technology rather than the second coming for right wing nutters.

Leftist extremism is not the future. We've already reached peak leftism, peak government, peak collectivism, peak feminism, etc. You can only go down from here in your SJW ideology. If anything, we will return back to the culture of the 1800's and early 1900's after all this garbage collapses.

It's always funny how people advocating these bullshit ideologies don't even know Hitler and Stalin are both technically leftists. Anarchy is far right and peak government authoritarianism is far left. It's funny you refer to the "far right" as nutters when leftist collectivism is inherently pro slavery. One man's free stuff is another man's indentured servitude.

It makes no sense to argue politics with you when you're in denial of your own political conviction. Your stance seems completely in line with racist fascism. The fact that you're hiding behind your PC idea of right wing anarchy is just pathetic. Any true classical liberalist would vomit at the thought of you being counted among them.

You're a Marxist-collectivist and use the normal leftist tactic of trying to force your ideology onto everyone then claiming they're a "bad person", "racist", "sexist", blah blah if they don't want to join your collectivist nightmare that's already resulted in the deaths of millions from your last Bolshevik revolution.

Nobody wants to join your SJW bullshit that demonizes males, anyone who isn't poor, white people, etc, the usual common targets. You have a mental disorder called far leftism where you were dumped into too many trashcans by stronger kids while growing up, so now you can only relate to people deemed underdogs by society and shun anything considered strong or normal. It's a mental disorder plain and simple. Stop trying to pretend you're normal and people should adhere to your disorder.

If you are a lambie long-con consider me impressed.

I think this is the wall he was looking for.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 29, 2015, 05:03:00 PM

I think this is the wall he was looking for.

HO-LY FU-CK!!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

I know. Pretty much everyone here is insane. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 29, 2015, 05:03:00 PM

I think this is the wall he was looking for.

HO-LY FU-CK!!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

I know. Pretty much everyone here is insane. Roll Eyes

I'm in. They suspect nothing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg13391297#msg13391297

Be careful. I dipped my toe in that thread once and lost it.

The Bitcoin Kid is at it again.

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3yj7r0/coinbase_censorship/

There's probably a thread out there somewhere about this, but: How the hell did a 22 year old kid get the keys to so many kingdoms? It's comical!

Here's poetic justice for you. Most of the old-timers know this already, I guess. But:

Jeff Garzik registered bitcointalk.org and handed the keys over to Sirius.

Quote from: jgarzik on February 17, 2013, 06:09:17 PM

heh, no.

Sirius is one of the first bitcoin users/developers besides Satoshi.

He is still occasionally logs into the forums, and I just transferred full control of bitcointalk.org domain over to him last week.

Quote from: souspeed on December 30, 2015, 02:53:32 PM

No worries.
500 soon.

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Quote from: magicmexican on December 30, 2015, 02:14:16 PM

Bulltrap'y couple of days, back to 420(blaze it).

So yeah, attempt at 450 = failed, looking for the bottom now, 400 seems way too high, most likely 370 or something

Agreed.
450 was a glass ceiling, now comes for a more reasonnable price between 350 and 400.

Very speculation. Such opinions Grin

^I gave him the idea with my immunologist routine...

Quote from: madmat on December 30, 2015, 10:14:02 PM

I just started running a bitcoin node, and this is not bitoin core.

Setup is quick and free for the next 60 days, the howto is here : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3xwcnl/how_i_stopped_bitching_and_started_my_own/

My node: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/130.211.103.123-8333/

Please quote me before thermos c3n-su-re this post!!!

I'll do it!

^I personally think you are hysterical. Wink

Edit: I read something interesting today, thought I might share it here.

How many senses do YOU have? Most people would say 5, but why pick 5? What about the sense of balance provided by your vestibular system? What about proprioception, the sense you have of where your limbs are when you close your eyes? That's 7 so far...

Not sure if sense of humour is a metaphor or not.

Quote from: inca on December 30, 2015, 11:34:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 30, 2015, 11:10:44 PM

^I personally think you are hysterical.

Edit: I read something interesting today, thought I might share it here.

How many senses do YOU have? Most people would say 5, but why pick 5? What about the sense of balance provided by your vestibular system? What about proprioception, the sense you have of where your limbs are when you close your eyes? That's 7 so far...

Not sure if sense of humour is a metaphor or not.

That is because you do not understand.

Maybe that. Or I have to spell out all my jokes for you. One or the other.

^common sense

All the quick-witted people are slowly crowding back in. This is speculation! Why isn't anybody yelling out random numbers Huh

Lots of numbers up there. Let me sleep on those Shocked

Rough estimate: 1,861,359

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Paxful, a website that claims to do "peer to peer" matching of Bitcoin buyers and sellers, issued a desperate plea on their blog (archived) threatening to move to an altcoin as they get priced out of Bitcoin. Because Paxful specializes in facilitating very small trades any pricing of transaction fees in an actual market obliterates their market niche, and Bitcoin is definitely moving towards a healthy market for block inclusion fees. Paxful claims to:

do over 5% of the total blockchain volume by number of transactions

They further explain that many of these transactions are users transacting a dollar's equivalent at a time in order to buy single ads. Advertising purchasers appear to dominate Paxful's customer base after they heavily courted backpage.com users when all backpage's methods for receiving fiat money were suspended.

^^What Chubby said.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on December 31, 2015, 06:36:33 PM

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He certainly is. That doesn't stop me from wondering how much is a conclusion in search of evidence vs evidence in search of a conclusion. Blockstream™ has an unhealthy amount of influence on an open and distributed project.

Rather than wasting time bikeshedding, infighting , or assuming intentions we should simply do our best to support all implementations to raise the bar of the whole ecosystem.

On that note ... I am off for today ...

Happy New Year to everyone.

Don't drink and drive and if you can avoid the roads by sleeping with the host/hostess of the party than take the opportunity.

Good to hear the talking points are out, and the matter is all settled folks. Nothing to see here.

Actual businesses are telling them they’re being prematurely priced out of the economy. How is that a trivial detail??

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Stop disingenuously conflating the SW soft-fork with an actual 2MB block limit hard fork. Just stop it - it's totally transparent.

adam3usAdam Back - Bitcoin Dev & Blockstream President 1 point 38 minutes ago

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It is intended to be transparent: one is a ~2MB soft-fork the other is a 2MB hard-fork. Consensus is for the soft-fork first. That should not be controversial in a normal upgrade, all previous upgrades to Bitcoin have been soft-forks too.

Mars is the only known planet (so far) inhabited solely by robots. Why would a robot, an 8-foot-tall robot, want to live on Mars, with a bunch of robots? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with the blocksize debate? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the blocksize debate! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a blind mayor defending the rights of a robot, and I'm talkin' about Bitcoin! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed thread, it does not make sense! If robots live on Mars, Happy New Year!!!

Quote from: Arcteryx on January 01, 2016, 12:19:27 AM

break that barrier then it will be a happy one indeed for me Wink

Anyhow,
happy one to the ones who are celebrating, am not there yet as I am on the dark side of the moon in Yukon Cheesy

Inference to the best explanation: You must be terribly cold. Embarrassed

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on January 01, 2016, 12:48:14 AM

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Quote from: rjclarke2000 on January 01, 2016, 12:30:28 AM

Just a heads up but Bitcoin is still 430ish as it turns 2016. I'm in the UK (so basically the future)

Just letting you Americans know.

Where's your funny accent then?

Oh and I am not northern. I don't have a pilkington accent! I am a southerner.

Well then stop dropping your H's. Those are important. Angry

And... it's the future. Off to get my self-driving car. Can Bitcoin scale now? I'll need micropayments for parking.

Thanks,

BMB

Quote from: theymos on January 01, 2016, 08:33:01 PM

XT takes Bitcoin and modifies some of its core consensus rules. Right now, it happens to be compatible with Bitcoin in most cases. But because it uses different rules, it can (depending on what miners do) split into a totally separate currency. Therefore, XT is not Bitcoin. A similar sort of thing was done with Feathercoin, which split off from Litecoin.

Some sort of block-size limit is necessary because if miners make blocks too large for a long period of time, then this makes it difficult for people to run full nodes. (In other words, block size is a negative externality suffered by full nodes due to the actions of miners and transaction-makers.) If not enough of the economy is backed by independent full nodes, then Bitcoin is totally insecure for everyone (see here and here). And there's no reason to think that miners would voluntarily keep blocks small enough -- they don't have the right incentives. So the network needs to enforce some limit. In the long-run the limit can't stay at 1 MB forever (and Satoshi acknowledged this), but this works well enough for now.

People often think that Bitcoin is ruled by miners, but this is wrong. Miners are merely employees of the network. Even if every miner decided to make 2 MB blocks right now, everyone running a Bitcoin full node would simply ignore their blocks. Bitcoin is composed of immutable rules (called "consensus rules") that all full nodes enforce no matter what. Modifying these rules requires creating a separate currency and having everyone else move to this separate currency. If pretty much everyone agrees in advance that it's OK to do this, then this is a consensus hardfork, and the result is still Bitcoin. If there is significant controversy, then the new currency is not Bitcoin. See this diagram.

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And to me it seems that the block size limit would be a problem right? Wont it either dramatically increase fees and/or causr transaction favoritism/selection? Bitcoin is special because all transactions are treated equally?

If blocks sometimes get full, then paying a too-low fee might significantly delay your transaction. If blocks are consistently full, then if you don't pay a sufficient fee, your transaction might never confirm. The exact fee required will depend on how many other transactions are being created and how much block space is left. Increasing the max block size will allow for lower fees.

Bitcoin is special because it is decentralized and to a very large extent incorruptible by humans, not because it might in some cases allow cheap transactions. If it can be done safely, the max block size should be increased if fees become a significant problem. But if the max block size is at the maximum safe size, then we shouldn't abandon the decentralization, security, etc. of the base Bitcoin system in order to achieve lower fees. We should instead look for some other solution. And there are in fact a variety of solutions in the works, both to make max block size increases safer (eg. IBLT and/or weak blocks) and to reduce the number of on-blockchain transactions that people need to perform (eg. Lightning). And if these "perfect" solutions are insufficient, there are various imperfect solutions which increase scalability at some security cost for its users. There might be some hiccups along the way, but I am very confident that the Bitcoin currency/ecosystem can both remain secure+decentralized and eventually scale to encompass all world transactions if necessary.

The max block size is planned to be effectively increased to about 2 MB sometime this year with the SegWit softfork. See: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases . An increase to much more than this is not viewed as safe by many experts.

I'm still torn. IDK. Undecided

He's a bright kid. Tongue

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 01, 2016, 10:54:48 PM

I do not feel like I have much of a stake in either direction, but it is possible that I am siding a bit with the concept that there is some legitimacy to maintaining the status quo, and accordingly the burden is on those who want to change it to convince the rest to change and how to change, etc etc....

The status-quo so far is that (other than on certain occasions) there has been plenty of space for all transactions that needed to get into a block without needing excessive fees. Full blocks is something that the bitcoin ecosystem is not familiar with and will be a big change in operational status.

Heady times for a simple gentleman.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 02, 2016, 12:36:27 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 02, 2016, 12:22:02 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 02, 2016, 12:19:48 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 01, 2016, 10:54:48 PM

I do not feel like I have much of a stake in either direction, but it is possible that I am siding a bit with the concept that there is some legitimacy to maintaining the status quo, and accordingly the burden is on those who want to change it to convince the rest to change and how to change, etc etc....

The status-quo so far is that (other than on certain occasions) there has been plenty of space for all transactions that needed to get into a block without needing excessive fees. Full blocks is something that the bitcoin ecosystem is not familiar with and will be a big change in operational status.

Heady times for a simple gentleman.

Yes. We are going to have to see how a lot of this evolves, and there is certain utility to specialization; however, in forums like these, we can often times gain exposure and learn a bit more about various specialties that people have and varying ways that people from varying backgrounds consider "problems"

Lol. You said it brother. Cheesy

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 02, 2016, 11:13:37 PM

Quote from: rebuilder on January 02, 2016, 11:00:58 PM

Stupid question: Why are miners including 0-fee transactions in blocks at all? AFAIK, they can refuse to do so regardless of max blocksize.

Because they are paid to do so through block rewards. Plus, some pools are concerned with their own and Bitcoins image.

Edit: When I re-read my post it sounded a bit terse. That was not my intention. Large scale miners are HEAVILY invested in Bitcoin. They've got facilities, equipment, employees, and long term deals with electricity providers and isp's. They're not here for the quick scam. Most of them (the ones acting rationally) will not do anything to hurt Bitcoin.

These technical discussions have really improved the quality of posts here. I'm starting to feel like maybe I should relegate myself to Reddit. Cheesy

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 02, 2016, 11:52:28 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 02, 2016, 11:13:37 PM

Quote from: rebuilder on January 02, 2016, 11:00:58 PM

Stupid question: Why are miners including 0-fee transactions in blocks at all? AFAIK, they can refuse to do so regardless of max blocksize.

Because they are paid to do so through block rewards. Plus, some pools are concerned with their own and Bitcoins image.

Edit: When I re-read my post it sounded a bit terse. That was not my intention. Large scale miners are HEAVILY invested in Bitcoin. They've got facilities, equipment, employees, and long term deals with electricity providers and isp's. They're not here for the quick scam. Most of them (the ones acting rationally) will not do anything to hurt Bitcoin.

These technical discussions have really improved the quality of posts here. I'm starting to feel like maybe I should relegate myself to Reddit. Cheesy

Don't worry. Soon the price will start climbing and we'll all be posting sexist images and throwing poo at each other again.

I can now be found in the Humanities section. Embarrassed

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 02, 2016, 11:52:28 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 02, 2016, 11:13:37 PM

Quote from: rebuilder on January 02, 2016, 11:00:58 PM

Stupid question: Why are miners including 0-fee transactions in blocks at all? AFAIK, they can refuse to do so regardless of max blocksize.

Because they are paid to do so through block rewards. Plus, some pools are concerned with their own and Bitcoins image.

Edit: When I re-read my post it sounded a bit terse. That was not my intention. Large scale miners are HEAVILY invested in Bitcoin. They've got facilities, equipment, employees, and long term deals with electricity providers and isp's. They're not here for the quick scam. Most of them (the ones acting rationally) will not do anything to hurt Bitcoin.

These technical discussions have really improved the quality of posts here. I'm starting to feel like maybe I should relegate myself to Reddit. Cheesy

Don't worry. Soon the price will start climbing and we'll all be posting sexist images and throwing poo at each other again.

I can now be found in the Humanities section. Embarrassed

Sorry for bombing your thread.

Wait until I get to the part about how governments are using fluoridation in your tap water to direct your thoughts and how the pharmaceutical industry invented Aids. Angry

Quote from: Richy_T on January 03, 2016, 10:06:24 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2016, 06:18:16 PM

Toxic.

Lots of "deleted" there. Brief summary?

Charles Lee was talking about how RBF won't be considered for Litecoin. He published a snippet of an email between he and Peter Todd in the thread, who showed up and went ape shit about it.

Quote from: sniveling on January 03, 2016, 11:41:40 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2016, 11:37:37 PM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 03, 2016, 10:06:24 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 03, 2016, 06:18:16 PM

Toxic.

Lots of "deleted" there. Brief summary?

Charles Lee was talking about how RBF won't be considered for Litecoin. He published a snippet of an email between he and Peter Todd in the thread, who showed up and went ape shit about it.

WTF is RBF, and why did Peter Todd go ape shit about Charles Lee refusing to consider it for Litecoin? Peter Todd's a Bitcoin/Viacoin dev right? What's his interest in Litecoin?

Replace by fee. One of the smarter guys can explain that.

Lee and Todd had some sort of email correspondence about RBF, a portion of which he published. Todd considered it the height of unprofessionalism and insisted the entire email thread be published. Lee then deleted his comments.

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-western-myth-of-bitcoin-in-kenya

Lol. We're so bored. Cheesy

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 04, 2016, 05:11:05 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland. Still hovering around $430 I see.

It's also been 4 weeks now since we've been under $400. Time to move up another step.

Our bodies are ready.

O hai friends!

I'm the executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation and I have no idea what's going on.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2016, 09:41:16 PM

Quote from: BruceFenton on January 04, 2016, 09:37:21 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2016, 09:29:16 PM

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2016, 09:21:11 PM

But didn't everybody resign when Brock Pierce slithered on? Or am I thinking of another Bitcoin Foundation??

The only one I'm aware of who resigned was Olivier, then then came back and was voted off by the board and has resigned again

Um:

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At least 10 members of the nonprofit Bitcoin Foundation have resigned over last week's election of onetime Disney child star and current Bitcoin entrepreneur and financier Brock Pierce as a new director, officials at the group said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bitcoin-foundation-resignations-idUSBREA4F02B20140516

Okay, thx for the link. I didn't follow the story much at the time. I thought the scandal it was primarily based on accusations which were not proven.

Hmm.

I guess I hound public figues when I'm bored. Who knew?

Quote from: oda.krell on January 04, 2016, 11:29:35 PM

^
^

Meh. I've previously been somewhat supportive of the Foundation, if for no other reason than as a vehicle to pay Gavin. I'll admit, I completely underestimated their sleazebaggery and incompetence.

Previously.

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Quote from: oda.krell on January 04, 2016, 11:29:35 PM

^
^

Meh. I've previously been somewhat supportive of the Foundation, if for no other reason than as a vehicle to pay Gavin. I'll admit, I completely underestimated their sleazebaggery and incompetence.

Previously.

What's wrong with changing your mind when given more information and time to contemplate it?

Sorry I was too terse. I was agreeing with you. I previously supported them, too. And for the same reason. But would you do it now is the question of the hour.

Quote from: oda.krell on January 05, 2016, 12:03:24 AM

Alright then. Let's create our own Bitcoin Foundation, with Blackjack and Hookers!

Oh wait. That'd just be the old foundation again.

The Executive Director is doing a litte AMA right now. You can make suggestions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1314390.msg13448653#msg13448653

I'd say it's going well so far. Tongue

He does know where to find those buttons. Grin

Quote from: Richy_T on January 05, 2016, 02:35:16 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 04, 2016, 11:51:55 PM

Sorry I was too terse. I was agreeing with you. I previously supported them, too. And for the same reason. But would you do it now is the question of the hour.

I was always skeptical. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt though (but not my money)

I always had a soft-spot for Gavin. I'm glad he's gone.

^Welcome to 'speculation'. Cheesy

^We should let him loose on Bruce Fenton. Grin

I'll let Chubby answer the tough ones.

Opt-in RBF.

A man walks into a bar...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3zju81/rbf_optin_a_man_walk_in_a_bar_order_a_coffe_drink/

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Quote from: lottery248 on January 06, 2016, 09:09:35 AM

bitcoin isn't gonna down deeper unless there are some of the major bugs in bitcoin.

Wait for the first roll-out of RBF. Not bugs per se, but new, unique gaming opportunities for the clever scriptwriters.

Mind you, they are in such a panic to rush this through, I'm sure there will be some fun bugs too.

RBF could be the 'killer-app' that the alternative clients need to gain traction. With less than 40% on the last core update, it will be interesting to see how many bother.

RBF seems to be a necessary ingredient for LN. Can anybody explain how?

No, LN does not need RBF. LN only needs BIP68, 112, and segregated witness

And I need a selfiestick, a kebab and a hammock.

I have a salmon, a bag of toasted almonds and a rope.

Close enough?

Why postpone the inevitable with RBF? It’s so convoluted. The authors of the LN whitepaper have said eventually it will need bigger blocks anyway.

I'm sure I'm missing something...

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 06, 2016, 09:25:09 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 06, 2016, 07:07:45 PM

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 06, 2016, 06:15:55 PM

-snip- ... sharing bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers?

Hahahahahaha...

It seems that you are trying to say something about either the space and/or the relevancy of my posts? Helrow? go on, say it. Don't be shy. Tongue

Maybe he is worried about there not being enough space left in the thread, which I don't know if I agree with. This thread is 14525 pages already so there doesn't seem to be a problem if we write a lot of crap. But maybe he is worried that we spend too much time on this thread. He always seems to write quite short posts where he gets right to the point, maybe that's because he worries about bloat in the thread. If you look at BlindMayorBitcorn you can see that his post, which was kind of a response to Cconvert2G36s post you I THINK you will find he answered quite brief. But why? BlindMayorBitcorn can write pretty long stuff but he can also write short stuff. I THINK both of them worry too much about bloat in the thread, but BMB can post a lot of silly stuff so he can't be too worried about it I THINK. But maybe he's just an asshole who doesn't give a damn and just pretends to care about bloat in the thread. Who knows? Perhaps they know of someone who wants to put this whole thread on the blockchain and cause bloat there, that would be really unnecessary if that were true. That would be really stupid I THINK. Honestly, I THINK it's very unnecessary of them to bother you about this stuff just because someone maybe will put the thread on the blockchain. It's not like there's a warning telling us that this would happen. It really sounds like a dumb idea. Then again, maybe they just agree with you with regards to Aztecminer. I THINK it's difficult to tell from that gif. Aztecminer can write a lot of weird stuff you regret reading, he can also be quite repetitive. On the other hand, I THINK he can be quite amusing at times, intentionally or not, he seems to have some mind-blowing ideas about just about everything, the question is really if his mind is already blown. But I THINK that's his own business and nobody else's. Just like that dancer dude you have as an avatar and which your many many many words never have touched. Speaking of repetitive, look at BJA, I mean... that guy is repetitive. We've all heard that he's upset about the block size and all, but... give me a break. On the other hand I THINK all he probably wants to do is his bit to get this thing resolved. He writes quite a lot about it, maybe he wants to intentionally bloat the blockchain to push the issue that way.If that is true then I THINK that's not ok at all. He really shouldn't create a bad situation by creating bloat. Then again we don't know if this thread will ever get on the blockchain. Who knows? But his point about "paying for blockspace" can be relevant if this thread is going on the blockchain. Do we pay rent there then? Do I have to pay? This is a question we really should look into. On the other hand, I THINK he might have been full of shit... but that doesn't mean he wasn't on to something. There are other people here who use up a lot of thread space with pictures. Especially Peonminer and Adam. I guess it's not that bad if it's only the links that will be included on the blockchain. But if all the pictures are to be stored on the blockchain then I think that's a real problem. Most of those pictures are larger than your posts, if we're talking raw data. I THINK it would make little sense to upload the thread on the blockchain without the pictures. They provide a lot of context and at times they're kind of the bread and butter of this thread. Can you imagine someone trying to read this in five thousand years and not get to see any of the pictures? It would be completely nonsensical. Anyhew, I can't really understand what all this is about. It's really difficult to know exactly what Cconvert2G36 was getting at. There is so little information in his puny little excuse of a post that it just makes me mad. Not real mad, just a little bit. There seems to be some insinuation that you yourself can be contributing to "bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers" in a way that dwarfs any effort on Aztecs side, but I THINK that's something each and every one of us will have to decide for OURSELVES.

Quote from: 2legit2 on January 06, 2016, 11:14:47 PM

price did not have any big changes for a while right now, when will the rise happen?

Sooner or later. Probably for sure.

So I'm eating toasted almonds and it occurs to me that Peter Todd doesn't so much 'exist' as he's some sort of fiction designed to concoct outrageous ideas like RBF to distract us from the real issues: blocksize and flouridation. Shocked

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 07, 2016, 12:14:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBvwcH4XX6U

If the bible taught us anything...

Is that guy facef@*&ing an angel??

Cry

^I remember this from the news. I remember thinking, "well that's peculiar."

Undecided

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 07, 2016, 12:34:37 AM

Jeebus!!!

I'm starting to think like JJG!!!

I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!

That happened to Daniel Day Lewis. I hear he still thinks he's Lincoln. It's an American tragedy.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 07, 2016, 12:34:37 AM

Jeebus!!!

I'm starting to think like JJG!!!

I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!

That happened to Daniel Day Lewis. I hear he still thinks he's Lincoln. It's an American tragedy.

Yeah, but he can just stick with Netflix.

No, the doctors say to keep him away from the television. It upsets him.

Quote from: nioc on January 07, 2016, 02:25:33 AM

What do you think about the proposal for fluoridating the blockchain? Undecided

Fluoride? I thought they meant flour.

*shakes fist*

BlockSTREAM!!!!

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 07, 2016, 02:37:13 AM

Well well well. We finally have some movement.

We all knew it was coming. Let's see how far it goes this time.

That's what she said.

Quote from: medialab101 on January 07, 2016, 02:36:21 AM

THAR SHE BLOWS CAP'N!!

...and that.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 07, 2016, 04:03:53 PM

Ok, the mystery of tarmi seems to be solved already:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1111201.msg11805249#msg11805249

Sad. I'm going to miss that guy.

Goodbye. Farewell. Amen.

If anybody has an opinion about RBF they’re itching to share: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317681.msg13475465#msg13475465

I’m still thinking.

Looks likes somebody missed the train. Cry

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 07, 2016, 05:08:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2016, 05:00:54 PM

If anybody has an opinion about RBF they’re itching to share: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317681.msg13475465#msg13475465

I’m still thinking.

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 06, 2016, 11:30:12 PM

Just no.

https://medium.com/@octskyward/replace-by-fee-43edd9a1dd6d#.asn8rqiex

Repeating past statements, it is acknowledged that Peter’s scorched
earth replace-by-fee proposal is aptly named, and would be widely
anti-social on the current network
—Jeff Garzik

RBF is irrational and harmful to Bitcoin.
— Charlie Lee, engineering manager at Coinbase

Replace-by-fee is a bad idea.
— Gavin Andresen

I agree with Mike & Jeff. Blowing up 0-confirm transactions is vandalism.
— Adam Back (a founder of Blockstream)

?

Three of those guys can just stop it from happening if it's so bad.

Unless Peter is remarkably good at sucking dick I don't see how this is an issue.

I have to admit to being puzzled. Undecided

Quote from: rebuilder on January 07, 2016, 07:01:41 PM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on January 07, 2016, 06:32:11 PM

He must be able to suck a golf ball through 10 meters of garden hose, coz this is going into 0.12 (afaict) and the rc's for 0.12 are out already.

From the recent dev discussions I read, it seems the change in acceptance hinged less on fellatory skills and more on going from RBF for all transactions to this:

"Opt-In Full-RBF allows senders to opt-into full-RBF semantics for their
transactions in a way that allows receivers to detect if the sender has
done so."

Oh.

^Eesh. Sorry Chubs. Tongue

^OK.

Hey, how come nobody's talkin' 'bout this?

https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/2016-01-07-statement

It's like you all just up and forgot how to appreciate Blockstream!

Quote from: gentlemand on January 07, 2016, 11:11:24 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 07, 2016, 10:56:34 PM

Hey, how come nobody's talkin' 'bout this?

https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/2016-01-07-statement

It's like you all just up and forgot how to appreciate Blockstream!

What is there to talk about? We must yield to them no matter what occurs. Bring this up again and we'll be forced to send you away for reeducation.

I've got an H-bomb now you know. Angry

Quote from: hdbuck on January 08, 2016, 01:14:51 AM

tick...

What China Has To Look Forward To When It Opens In A Few Hours
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07/what-china-has-look-forward-when-it-opens-few-hours

...tock...

It's Official: Bitcoin Was The Top Performing Currency Of 2015
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07/its-official-bitcoin-was-top-performing-currency-2015

Grin

List of ~~Chinese~~ people who will read Zerohedge tomorrow:

I'd like to take this opportunity to quote Marco Polo, if I may:

"If thou tastest a crust of bread, thou tastest all the stars and all the heavens."

Saccharomyces cerevisiae, or baker's yeast. Photos courtesy of Peter Hollenhorst and Catherine Fox.
Get more cultured!

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 08, 2016, 01:59:38 AM

Quote from: The Pink E. (Pie) on January 08, 2016, 01:53:35 AM

Quote from: gijoes on January 08, 2016, 01:14:42 AM

Dear Wall Observers,

Now that the most convenient btccharts.com is gone

So wall watching isn't about walls at all, it's really about watching CHARTS? That's what people do here, talk about watching CHARTS?
Doesn't it get a bit dull after a while?

I mean honestly? Not walls? CHARTS?!

Technicality, technicality.... you sound like a troll...

We talk about all kinds of shit here... including both walls and charts.. and many things in between (and NOT) Roll Eyes

I understand that some of us have different standards of what constitutes a substantial post and have varying degrees of patience regarding the levels of responsible behaviour as it pertains to the observation of/speculation about the "price" of Bitcoin. While I realize some of our more perspicacious posters will be shrewd and will post a great deal, and sometimes much less, similarly some of our less clear-sighted posters will post more or less depending on things like sentiment and the level of postings they're most comfortable; these are personal preferences that are NOT, or at least ought not to be dictated by the more or less discriminating majority.

Quote from: elite3000 on January 08, 2016, 02:36:03 AM

We are exactly in the same level from before the end of year dump.

This is not a win, we just aren't losing. For now

Right. So can we have your kidney then?

Quote from: tomothy on January 08, 2016, 09:17:49 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 08, 2016, 09:06:15 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 08, 2016, 08:01:56 PM

what happened to the coffee-gasms you used squirt all over the WO thread?

It seemed to piss too many people off so I didn't bother any more.

It was usually all about trying to stay awake when we were going sideways so often people posted GIFs of tumbleweeds.

Coffee is just a crack-of-noon wakeup drink for me anyway. After happy hour it's strictly booze, preferably Guinness Extra Stout.

Hey Jimbo, Any thoughts on how long we'll move sideways now? Also would you care to comment and throw in a few bits regarding core/blocksize/bitpay/coinbase current loggerjam/loggerhead? not sure which its supposed to be with regards to above term lol. Thanks.

I'm curious as well. I can't help but notice he's yet to appreciate Blockstream.

Very suspicious.

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 08, 2016, 11:36:08 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 08, 2016, 09:24:27 PM

Quote from: tomothy on January 08, 2016, 09:17:49 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 08, 2016, 09:06:15 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 08, 2016, 08:01:56 PM

what happened to the coffee-gasms you used squirt all over the WO thread?

It seemed to piss too many people off so I didn't bother any more.

It was usually all about trying to stay awake when we were going sideways so often people posted GIFs of tumbleweeds.

Coffee is just a crack-of-noon wakeup drink for me anyway. After happy hour it's strictly booze, preferably Guinness Extra Stout.

Hey Jimbo, Any thoughts on how long we'll move sideways now? Also would you care to comment and throw in a few bits regarding core/blocksize/bitpay/coinbase current loggerjam/loggerhead? not sure which its supposed to be with regards to above term lol. Thanks.

I'm curious as well. I can't help but notice he's yet to appreciate Blockstream.

Very suspicious.

I've consciously tried to abstain from the blocksize debate. I don't do coding myself (not since Microsoft Basic on a TRS-80

) so I have to place my trust in the worldwide Bitcoin "community" to police the open-source code. When I delegate, I try not to interfere.

That said, I see the need for larger blocks with time. I also see people with a political agenda trying to use the debate for their own purposes. I'll leave politics to the politicians. Cheesy

Blockstream? I don't follow it too closely but I know it's a sidechain technology [company], as is Ethereum which I don't follow that closely either, although I did attend a meetup just before the launch in which Vitalik Buterin spoke and outlined the advantages of decentralized contracts. Blockchain 2.0 obviously holds great promise but I don't see it as competing with Bitcoin, which has achieved critical mass ahead of any altcoins.

As for how long we'll go sideways this time, my guess is probably for a few days although being the weekend, anything can happen.

Fixed/bolded.

*Vote Blockstream^TM.

For Lambie: I believe he has a soft-spot for this enterprising young go-getter.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-startup-ceo-resurfaces-2-year-disappearance/

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Danny Brewster, the founder and CEO of Cyprus-based bitcoin banking startup Neo & Bee, is now tweeting from his former Twitter handle @BtcDanny, with messages including promises that he intends to reimburse investors for losses incurred during what can be best described as a contentious period of company turmoil at the start of 2014.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on January 09, 2016, 03:45:09 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 09, 2016, 03:09:48 AM

-snip-
Fixed/bolded.

*Vote Blockstream^TM.

Please (Cconvert2G36), allow me to explain. Core is only part of the bigger picture. At Blockstream^TM we pride ourselves on forward-thinking, deep-future planning, and paradigm shifting.

Blockstream: We put the icing on your cake!

*We put the icing on your cake! is a registered trademark of the Blockstream corporation and its subsidiaries... All reights rezerv'd.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 09, 2016, 02:17:46 PM

Quote from: CuntFabulous on January 09, 2016, 02:12:00 PM

Quote from: oda.krell on January 09, 2016, 02:06:43 PM

Small correction: Your individual income tax rate applies for (profitable) trades < 1 year apart. That could be less than 30%, or could be more.

(EDIT) Obligatory IANA(tax)L disclaimer.

Irrelevant. All bitcoin enthusiasts are in the top tax bracket. Also stunningly good looking.

I showed a picture here of myself once. It got deleted instantly.

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 10, 2015, 10:33:43 PM

that bottom pic was just to horrific

Quote from: ChartBuddy on January 09, 2016, 11:02:06 PM

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on January 10, 2016, 12:22:59 AM

This is a test of the Blockstream emergency broadcast system. Had this been an actual blockchain emergeny you would be instructed to visit your nearest Blockstream customer service client care specialist.

This is only a test.

im dumping some btc over the next few days...need to hedge a bit incase btc does go down. Not dumping for fiat...gonna buy a small basket of Alts.

I understand there are some fine arbitrage opportunities over at Cryptsy. Why not give it a try.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on January 10, 2016, 12:31:28 AM

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on January 10, 2016, 12:22:59 AM

im dumping some btc over the next few days...need to hedge a bit incase btc does go down. Not dumping for fiat...gonna buy a small basket of Alts.

Maybe it should have been "the last few days". She's coiling again, gentlemen.

Like a burmese python!

Quote from: Richy_T on January 10, 2016, 05:28:52 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2016, 04:47:42 AM

Sorry I vandalize ChartBuddy the way I do. I'm a cheap prop comic. Embarrassed

Gotta confess, the first one put my nose a little out of joint because I took it the wrong way but I've had a chuckle out of many since and have even done one myself, I believe.

I like to think I give as much as I take. But I know that's what we all like to think... Anyway.

I thought I'd share this: Machines and money.

Pearls before swine, no doubt. Angry

Quote from: gentlemand on January 10, 2016, 02:42:11 PM

Quote from: Searing on January 10, 2016, 02:35:20 PM

ie Cryptsy say goes full Gox....

Who gives a shit about that place? No doubt there'll be alt fans who'll be sad but that's about it. I don't think we'll be seeing headlines on the news if Wankcoin dies because of it.

I'm no fan of shitcoins, but I hate to see real people get taken to the cleaners by some guy whose claim to fame seems to be really fat fingers. Undecided

No offence Chubby..

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 10, 2016, 03:07:29 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 10, 2016, 03:03:25 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on January 10, 2016, 02:42:11 PM

Quote from: Searing on January 10, 2016, 02:35:20 PM

ie Cryptsy say goes full Gox....

Who gives a shit about that place? No doubt there'll be alt fans who'll be sad but that's about it. I don't think we'll be seeing headlines on the news if Wankcoin dies because of it.

I'm no fan of shitcoins, but I hate to see real people get taken to the cleaners by some guy whose claim to fame seems to be really fat fingers. Undecided

No offence Chubby..

My fingers are perfectly proportioned. It's a bit freaky.

I don't think it's actually all that possible to run out of usernames. Not this century at least.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist

Oh! Mercy

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At 2:30 this morning @petertoddbtc committed a double-spend attack on @Coinbase by buying me Reddit gold and then redirected the payment

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40ejy8/peter_todd_with_my_doublespendpy_tool_with/

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/686362883756695553

Quote from: Richy_T on January 12, 2016, 01:02:07 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 12, 2016, 12:50:46 AM

Luke-Jr predicts death of bitcoin in 2016

Grin

(Because he sees that miners will never agree to reducing the block size to 500 kB.)

He's run out of the HD floppies and started in on the DDs.

How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People

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I'll be blunt: I think Luke Dashjr fits the definition of a poisonous person, and I think Bitcoin would be better without him. At the very least, we wouldn't be creating two BIPs for every technical issue, one for Luke and one for the rest of us (see BIP 16/17, and now we have BIP 20/21, too).

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 12, 2016, 04:25:33 AM

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on January 12, 2016, 04:20:45 AM

Quote from: Richy_T on January 12, 2016, 04:09:05 AM

Quote from: bobabouey2 on January 12, 2016, 03:32:11 AM

The furor on reddit over whether Peter Todd has broken laws with his double spend through RBF, and the calls for Coinbase to pursue a legal case against him are hilarious.

Which is the better approach for a cutting edge digital currency -

Fraud (double spend) protected by the existing legal structure (no different from laws trying to prevent various forms of credit card fraud, or)
Accepting that zero-conf transactions on main bitcoin layer have risk, and working on technical workarounds to truly solve that issue for people who want to accept zero-conf without risk

Why not both?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40iktd/peter_todd_suspended_from_reddit/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40jbdi/upetertodd_unsuspended_from_reddit/

Peter Todd is the new boogeyman then. Cheesy

Wasn't it always possible with the right know-how to double-spend a TX with zero confrms?

Interesting conversation between Charles Lee and Brian Armstrong and Thermos: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/40cm78/coinbase_still_delisted_from_bitcoinorg_as_github/cyufpix?context=3

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Look, I've been with Bitcoin very nearly since its beginning, and almost all of my work is pro bono. My primary concern in all of my roles is Bitcoin's long-term survival and usefulness. So while I admit that I'm not the most diplomatic person around, I'm not just randomly being a jerk when I say this stuff. It's definitely possible for reasonable people to disagree with me and my actions, but I can tell that you're just deeply misinformed about how Bitcoin does work and should work. So please, have a long conversation with Wladimir or someone else who actually knows what they're talking about. Even your own coblee seems to be pretty well-informed, but you're clearly not listening to him, since there's no way he'd say something like "Coinbase will always support the longest chain in bitcoin" and expect to get a good response from experts.

Quote from: suda123 on January 12, 2016, 04:37:39 PM

Quote from: If I listened long enough on January 12, 2016, 03:21:48 PM

...to you
I'd find a way to believe that it's all true
Knowing that you lied straight-faced while I cried
Still I look to find a reason to believe

Why, Bitcoin, WHY?!

I actually admire you, you can scare away the weak hands that have no resolve and most likely don't understand the magnitude of what Bitcoin is.

There's a thread for that you know?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1255878.msg13019430#msg13019430

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/40gh5l/bitcoin_classic_is_coming/cyur8xh?context=3

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I'm planning on contributing to more than one implementation. Decentralize all the things...

Woo. Hoo.

This is starting to seem less like an economy than a series of political tit-for-tats. Undecided

When did Gmax last threaten to dump his load?

How many coins was that? Shocked

Quote from: mrkavasaki on January 13, 2016, 12:59:11 AM

Any reason for this Panik Drop?

Gavin is ruining everything. Angry

Quote from: podyx on January 13, 2016, 01:07:21 AM

Quote from: brg444 on January 13, 2016, 01:03:54 AM

This drop is brought to you by the good folks at Bitcoin Classic. Cool

Hopefully ya'll enjoy being hard forked into double digits prices Kiss

What is Bitcoin Classic?

https://bitcoinclassic.com/

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on January 13, 2016, 01:09:29 AM

Quote from: brg444 on January 13, 2016, 01:03:54 AM

This drop is brought to you by the good folks at Bitcoin Classic. Cool

Hopefully ya'll enjoy being hard forked into double digits prices Kiss

Is MP dumping her coinz? lol

I thought he did that already. How many forks do we need to threaten him with?!?

Quote from: podyx on January 13, 2016, 01:15:10 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 13, 2016, 01:09:17 AM

Quote from: podyx on January 13, 2016, 01:07:21 AM

Quote from: brg444 on January 13, 2016, 01:03:54 AM

This drop is brought to you by the good folks at Bitcoin Classic. Cool

Hopefully ya'll enjoy being hard forked into double digits prices Kiss

What is Bitcoin Classic?

https://bitcoinclassic.com/

So basically the fork we've been waiting on? Why is that a bad thing?

IDK. Blockstream hasn't told me what to think yet. Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/40nufb/eppur_se_muove_its_not_even_about_the_specifics/

Annnnnd....I'm back. 72 hours in angsty exile and you godless monsters! Look what you've done!!

Confession: My deep sense of isolation drove me into the hoary orange arms of another forum. Undecided

Thanks ~~Obama Blockstream~~ Mike!

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on January 16, 2016, 04:42:40 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2016, 04:12:01 AM

Annnnnd....I'm back. 72 hours in angsty exile and you godless monsters! Look what you've done!!

Confession: My deep sense of isolation drove me into the hoary orange arms of another forum. Undecided

Thanks ~~Obama Blockstream~~ Mike!

There's no drama like internet nerd drama.

Speculation: by April or May Blockstream will have buckled. But good gawd, what an ugly back and forth this turned into. I'm almost tempted to become a bankster out of sheer disillusionment. Roll Eyes

Quote from: podyx on January 16, 2016, 08:07:31 AM

Anyone worrying?

Meh. I was poor when I started.

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and then you have...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from: bitebits on January 16, 2016, 05:17:03 PM

Quote from: orpington on January 16, 2016, 02:18:30 AM

Bitcoin "Classic"! What a stupid name. Logically there's nothing really classic about it. They should have spent a little more time thinking up a proper name at least.

Seems that Satoshi disagrees with you: https://github.com/bitcoin-classic

Access to that email is probably a thriving dark market enterprise. Roll Eyes

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 16, 2016, 05:47:41 PM

By the way, there was another message by "Satoshi" recently, denying that he was Craig Wright -- and then adding "We are all Satoshi". That last part is obviously something that Satoshi would not have written. I can only think that the hacker is aware that everybody is aware that the account has been compromised, and does not care to pretend anymore.

Sound, sensible analysis as always. Good to have you home, professor.

Quote from: AlexGR on January 16, 2016, 08:08:42 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2016, 06:00:23 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 16, 2016, 05:47:41 PM

By the way, there was another message by "Satoshi" recently, denying that he was Craig Wright -- and then adding "We are all Satoshi". That last part is obviously something that Satoshi would not have written. I can only think that the hacker is aware that everybody is aware that the account has been compromised, and does not care to pretend anymore.

Sound, sensible analysis as always. Good to have you home, professor.

The problem is that the anti-fork message was not spoofed and the writing style matches.
http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2

The "we are all satoshi" was spoofed and the writing style or expressions didn't match. So the second doesn't invalidate the first.

Additionally, that particular email address is not known to have been stolen.

Therefore the August message could be legit - it's a very serious risk for BTC. Risk, in the sense that if the proposed fork goes ahead, we'll have Satoshi's second coming after the forkageddon to proclaim Bitcoin is a failure since it failed to protect itself from this kind of attack.

The we are all Satoshi message was weak beans. Very weak.

Also, totally spoofed: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w6vy4/i_am_not_craig_wright_we_are_all_satoshi_satoshi/
_Theymos

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This is spoofed.

Received: from mail.vistomail.com (cpe-104-231-205-87.wi.res.rr.com
[104.231.205.87])
by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01BCADF
for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
Thu, 10 Dec 2015 06:53:42 +0000 (UTC)

104.231.205.87 is not mail.vistomail.com. It's some residential IP, cpe-104-231-205-87.wi.res.rr.com.

I feel like the mailing list must be seriously misconfigured to allow this sort of spoofing...

Core supporters took out entire towns with their DDoS attacks. I don't think anything is beneath them at this point TBH.

Quote from: fisheater22 on January 16, 2016, 09:34:58 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 16, 2016, 09:27:50 PM

Hearn will be like a ticking time-bomb waiting to go off at R3C ... he's bitcoin's biggest asset right now. Can you imagine that arrogant little snipe not getting his way inside a corporate IT project, just waiting to slip the knife in or totally blow-up the project in a PR nightmare intended to destroy its credibility??

Unpleasant Fact #2: He's not unique. The whole Bitcoin core team is exactly like him.
Discouraging.

Gmax threatened to rage-quit, too. Mike just beat him to it. Much like the mythical ouroboros...

Mike^ ^Gmax

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2016, 10:21:32 PM

Quote from: theymos on January 16, 2016, 10:14:01 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2016, 09:22:52 PM

That's better blocks, not bigger ones.

No, it's both. The Core roadmap calls for maintaining the 1 MB "normal-blocks" for now, but then adding 3 MB "witness-blocks" (sent alongside normal blocks) where much of the data from normal blocks can go. It does roughly double transaction capacity, it's backward-compatible, and it'll be ready in only ~4 months. The Core devs are following Satoshi's footsteps by significantly prioritizing backward-compatibility: Satoshi never did a hardfork, and when he did the backward-incompatible version checksum change, he scheduled it two years in advance.

Ya but...

But the 1MB cap was a temporary measure to stop spam attacks. Satoshi was optimistic about future tech.

Isn't it?

Isn't it??

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 16, 2016, 11:22:12 PM

Quote from: r0ach on January 16, 2016, 11:19:13 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 16, 2016, 09:39:57 PM

Gmax threatened to rage-quit, too. Mike just beat him to it. Much like the mythical ouroboros...

Don't forget Luke Jr & Gavin. Basically all of them except maybe Wuille have threatened to rage quit if they don't get their way? Then Peter Todd beat everyone to it and already semi-rage quit when Ghash got 51%. Can we get a 100% rage quit count if nobody is allowed to be dictator of Bitcoin?

wumpus is the only guy who matters ... and he'll never quit, don't even think he rages, just codes like a commando

That's it!

You guys are on your own!

https://medium.com/@bramcohen/bitcoin-s-ironic-crisis-32226a85e39f#.sie1emacg

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Even if transaction fees go up to an amount that’s unpleasantly large, they’ll still be amounts people are paying. To claim that high fees are a disaster is like saying ‘Nobody goes there any more, it’s too crowded.’

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In the long term the mining rewards for bitcoin will go away completely (there’s a strict schedule for this) and all that’s left will be transaction fees. Attempting to ‘solve’ the problem of transaction fees would in the long run undermine the security of Bitcoin even if it were done perfectly.

So Core wont up the block size because it requires a potentially contentious hard-fork, and because we have to prepare for a fees market. Is this the size of it?

Quote from: hdbuck on January 17, 2016, 12:35:48 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 17, 2016, 12:33:33 AM

So Core wont up the block size because it requires a potentially contentious hard-fork, and because we have to prepare for a fees market. Is this the size of it?

Pretty much.
You should sell and ragequit before it is too late.
You wont be able to spend the couple satoshis you got from faucet once the fees goes up..

You have a lovely way about you. Have you considered a career in public relations?

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 17, 2016, 03:20:23 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 17, 2016, 03:12:47 AM

so now all the usual suspect XTrolls have become Classic trolls? Roll Eyes

endless FUD, these useful idiots are getting led around like around stupid, docile beasts and they actually think they are doing the best by Bitcoin ... looks like another beating is needed for them to figure out who really has their best interests covered.

https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/6

bitcoinclassic
kindof a joke...

I look forward to blocksize incress i have debated the issues for years now! i'v been on both sides of the debate ... cant wait!

wtf is this bitcoinclassicy thing?

lol wtv

And this is your contribution to the debate? I think I may have overestimated some of you people. Roll Eyes

Quote from: dropt on January 17, 2016, 05:21:25 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 17, 2016, 05:17:15 AM

It sure is nice, sitting here lending out my fiat at >%20 annual return. I don't have to worry about dumps, crashes, hard forks or network congestion failures. I don't care if it goes up, either, because that just boosts the interest rate I get paid.

Will you shut up already. Just the other day you were whinging about having your life savings tied up in the market, mere weeks after you claimed you had sold off most of your coins and working on the rest.

You're full of shit and not fooling anyone.

JJG would have taken like 22 pages to say that. Cheesy

Quote from: Andre# on January 17, 2016, 09:32:45 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 17, 2016, 12:21:38 AM

https://medium.com/@bramcohen/bitcoin-s-ironic-crisis-32226a85e39f#.sie1emacg

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In the long term the mining rewards for bitcoin will go away completely (there’s a strict schedule for this) and all that’s left will be transaction fees. Attempting to ‘solve’ the problem of transaction fees would in the long run undermine the security of Bitcoin even if it were done perfectly.

The problem of transaction fees will in the long run be solved by the free (not fee!) market. Once the subsidy for miners subsides, they will have to make a living with fees. So they'll have an incentive to sell blockspace at a competitive price. It's too early for this now, since the subsidy is still so much bigger than the fees.

Even the EU stopped capping milk production (done out of fear milk would become too cheap for the farmers to make a living). And Core wants to be the central planner of the tx production quotum? Get real.

I agree with you. But it seems like any hard fork is going to be contentious. Near unanimous agreement by everyone involved won't happen until there's a fire. Smoke won't cut it.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on January 17, 2016, 11:34:17 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 17, 2016, 11:19:18 AM

Quote from: Andre# on January 17, 2016, 09:32:45 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 17, 2016, 12:21:38 AM

https://medium.com/@bramcohen/bitcoin-s-ironic-crisis-32226a85e39f#.sie1emacg

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In the long term the mining rewards for bitcoin will go away completely (there’s a strict schedule for this) and all that’s left will be transaction fees. Attempting to ‘solve’ the problem of transaction fees would in the long run undermine the security of Bitcoin even if it were done perfectly.

The problem of transaction fees will in the long run be solved by the free (not fee!) market. Once the subsidy for miners subsides, they will have to make a living with fees. So they'll have an incentive to sell blockspace at a competitive price. It's too early for this now, since the subsidy is still so much bigger than the fees.

Even the EU stopped capping milk production (done out of fear milk would become too cheap for the farmers to make a living). And Core wants to be the central planner of the tx production quotum? Get real.

I agree with you. But it seems like any hard fork is going to be contentious. Near unanimous agreement by everyone involved won't happen until there's a fire. Smoke won't cut it.

Ok, then. I had to try.

It's some pretty cold turkey. Undecided

Quote from: ChartBuddy on January 17, 2016, 12:01:48 PM