2 firsts we're waiting for some news from gox

haha...is this a level?

101011

That's me saying that your charts are meaningless. Start creating charts in a way, that they could predict the right outcome at least 50% of the time, and there would be some meaning.

"The stock market has a very efficient way of transferring wealth from the impatient to the patient"    -Warren Buffett

“Our favorite holding period is forever.” - Warren Buffet

HOLLAR OUT TO ELLIOT WAVE ANALYSTS

y'all see a five wave decline terminated and a five wave rally on the smaller fractal (5min chart)? the volume makes perfect sense, all fourth waves are wedges, all fractals in tact. the next rally will either be a 3 or a five. the implications are critical. If panic has truly been resolved, the next rally will swiftly pass 540 and maybe 560.

3200 is critical on Huobi. if we break that level, it is highly bullish.

Well here comes try #1.

Haha

Yes. There's also no way all these presidents were alive and hanging out together. It is a painting, after all... you can't get too literal because it's clearly not meant as such.

that's racist

to pop some bubbles: 3320ish on huobi is the breakout point and would prove the breakout of bearish trend started last year - and thats quite a way to go

Is this a fact?

I tend to agree although I dont expect a full retracement, tops 485. short target 420 short term.

Green lines even when price is declining, I like that!

Isn't it ironic that the libertarian bitcoiners, champions of laissez-faire capitalism, are betting all their life savings on the hope that the Satoshi Bitcoin will be one day the only cryptocurrency in the market, so that they can charge monopoly prices for it? 

Perhaps I don't.

A monopoly is the opposite of free market by definition, so how can one be in favor of the latter without being against the former?

If libertarians do not object to monopolies, why do they object to government, which has by defintion the monopoly in many fields (army, criminal punishment, money issuance, etc.)?

2.6 Monopolies and Corporations

We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association. We seek to divest government of all functions that can be provided by non-governmental organizations or private individuals. We oppose government subsidies to business, labor, or any other special interest. Industries should be governed by free markets.

finally, a voice of reason.

I think the point is, how are they going to buy BTC (or keep buying it anyway) if they can't get money into the exchanges?

Karpeles made an appearance on Oprah earlier today and pulled the private keys for 600k coins out of his ass.

One at a time.

You mean the rally was caused by this post of mine:


You'll are welcome. 

Confirmed, Having spoken with the CEO of Huobi and also the EU I have some interesting insider tips. Huobi will be closing after loosing ~600k BTC and the EU will also ban bitcoin every couple of days for 4 months. Sub $300 is possible

There is no such thing as an "academic in general".  As you must know, they come in all colors - from unrepentant hippies to crypto-nazis.

Interesting that this time alts are not following BTC, they're even going lower. Are we going to see decoupling again like before December?

See the volume. Bitfinex  exceeds bitstamp and btc-e. Anyone explains?

Have you ever tried receiving payments from abroad? It is exceptionally expensive and time-consuming to send money to Brazil from a foreign country by regular banking channels. Bitcoin facilitates this tremendously, and is used by many. Is that not enough to be considered successful?
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How many people in this thread using bitcoin moving money abroad?  if one uses, indeed he will find bitcoin fantastic. One thing I tend to be sure is that the payment technology behind bitcoin will be successful.

Still, the success of payment technology does not necessarily mean success of bitcoin, I think.

It is quite a headache for me to imagine: if Switzerland decides to stop Swiss Francs and turn them all into a crypto swisscoin, what will happen to bitcoin?

Staring into the abyss

Somebody is dumping at 570 .. 580, 590 and now 600.

How many have they got?

Quick hijack -- my apologies -- if I move BTCs from one exchange to another exchange is that a taxable moment (a realization event)? If not, the IRS is totally bluffing aren't they.

How much is that doge in the window?
woof woof!

20 years from now there will be no USD or USA.

It's just the timing that is hard to nail down. 

cAPSLOCK, of course sensible people hope for a soft landing, but is it not also sensible to prepare for a hard landing?  Just as likely  to happen I think.  Civil unrest is escalating all around the world.  You are not immune. If it doesn't bear thinking about, perhaps it bears thinking about. 

A couple of months ago I tried issuing a daily ~20h prediction based on a hunch that I though might work (the "Chinese Slumber Method").  But in the end it was not significantly better than the trivial method "tomorrow the price will be the same as today". 

So my prediction for  tomorrow at this hour on Bitstamp is 621.18 USD.   Also for next year on this day, too. 

https://www.cyberscoop.com/wannacry-monero-bitcoin/
shapeshift blacklist some shitcoins

Re cars:

Please buy electric cars or atleast hybrid.

You're wrong, core owes you nothing. Stop acting like a whiny bitch who is not getting extra ice-cream all over your face. There is only one side making threats of destruction and it is not core. Core are basically a group of volunteers, not your paid servants that you can shit on any time you're feeling upset. I doubt you know shit about software security systems but you expect to know what is a "reasonable position" for fundamental protocol changes to the bitcoin distributed network. Sometimes people have to know their limitations and when it is time to shut the fuck up. Your time is now you idiot.

A hardfork needs to be well-thought out and the opportunity to clean up a lot of legacy technical debt is the wisest course of action. It will need significant testing and long advance notice, probably 12-18 months for all the older operational nodes. Core has always said that there will be a hardfork and an algorithm to increase blocksize would be implemented at that time, just not tonight dear. This is an operational $60 billion financial clearing and monetary security system, not something you can just tinker with next time you have a panic desperation anxiety attack that your technical opinion is becoming irrelevant.

Shit like that should be fucking rejected.

Should be a network rule that if there are sufficient transactions to fill a block, that if you don't >90% fill it then your block is invalid.


481831 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 03:49:31   BitFury   0000000000000000008c40ba590fe957fb31ba256c82ae3ea4c378f46e3aa9b3      999.11
481830 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 03:34:51   BitFury   000000000000000000168d1252b6df5a1d58085e3553522b88760dd79a614e4b   999.23
481829 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 03:30:37   Bixin      000000000000000000917cba69f69b758fe396c8e30ae97bbcf08c4eb975e726      998.32
481828 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 02:54:58   AntPool   000000000000000000bc331eb461d522cb3673b3881217dc30c6a5cf91710f23   0.3
481827 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 02:51:10   BATPOOL   000000000000000000509863d58a52dbe2ec811d91619f164dab3fe9177874b4   999.29
481826 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 02:44:20   BitFury   000000000000000000df9314ff6dd5aa8ce15d4e418fa3f5c4fa9fff4e480811      999.2
481825 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 02:26:36   Unknown   000000000000000000daf7a26d903543377d5cdddb962077e58fd11212479eea   999.17
481824 (Main Chain)   2017-08-24 01:57:37   BTCC Pool   0000000000000000001c8018d9cb3b742ef25114f27563e3fc4a1902167f9893      989.32

Roll it back to 481827, all those after should be orphaned

wtf is going on with Monero?
 

"I'll take 'Doesn't Give a Fuck' for $5,000, Alex"

Feels like lift off. Everybody hand me your pants. No time to explain...

Izabella Kaminska has accepted my wall invitation. https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/709ed6/izabella_dissects_just_what_on_earth_tethers_are/dn2jk3l/
Everybody try to be on their best behaviour this weekend. And for god's sake, keep your trousers on!

Every day in bitcoin is some jackass trying to fabricate some type of "fact" to justify why the price should be infinity and since the price is currently not infinity, it has to be undervalued.  Nevermind the fact all crypto is designed to centralize, thus invalidating it's entire claimed fundamental value proposition.

Equifax's chief security officer was a music major, she studied music composition. Why would they put someone with degrees in music in charge of the company’s data security?

allready taken 17/11....

I would never keep more than a few hundreds $ in crypto on a smartphone. My favorite option is encrypted volumes and files on linux only.
Phones look like some security hazard walking.

At what point would we leave "return to normal" behind?

hmmmmm....


Can you tell  me where you think the price was at "take off" during "awareness stage"  and  then tell me exactly who those institutional buyers were at that time... as per the chart?

V curious.

Accordingly we still don't have significant "institutional money" so would this not put us somewhere far further back on the chart?

Serious question... what significant institutional investors money was getting in at say $200?  because as far as I remember - institutional money was about as interested in BTC as dogshit- until very recently -and even recently they have surely hardly even dipped their toe? or can you point to where institutional investors came in? and who  do you suppose those institutional investors are ?

Curious as to your logic.

Or do you just mean we are about to reach a despair phase in a lesser cycle?

(ps also I hear an estimate that there are 300,000 people that hold more than a whole  Bitcoin-are you saying that the "Public" have been buying already? again I don't see it yet- do you suppose it could be that we are much further back on the chart - I ask again?)

(pps- could it be that we are still taxiing on runway - prior to take off?)

(or could it be that one size fits all generic charts - just are not accurate models?)

Isn't the whole "USA should only be a nation of straight white people" thing kinda counter to your...existence?

^some kind of vote in D.C.? :\ ~ i just was alerted today per bigtime east coast promoters! >.> september 30th...big wave++!!!

Right, so what are the odds that Amazon announces that it was fake news just at the time that the price touches the downward trendline for a second time?

https://imgur.com/a/0QujC

I hope they spread more news about it like fire, even if its fake. We will have a small bull run.

Then, after that, lots of news in mid-October saying the information is fake.

The pigs will get slaughtered, eventually, and we will have a small bear run, followed by Amazon announcing they will now accept bitcoins by December, right before Christmas. Then bull run + bear correction + official announcing = 6k easy.

the october hard ford

I'd shatter my pelvis on the pavement. On general principle.

The main thing that I worried about Trezor or Ledger Nano S is that custom officials around the world are going to wise up and start looking for them.  Because they do have rather distinct look from your regular USBs.  

Pretty much every countries in the world has currency amount restriction and reporting requirement at airport.  If countries start to include Bitcoin into amount that you have to declare, having even 1 BTC in your hardware wallet could easily exceed those limit one day!  Since most limit are around USD or EUR 10K max.  BTC could easily reach USD or EUR 10K if it wants to.  

I bet there are some shorts out there shittin' their britches right now.

Bitfinex already above $4100, when will other exchanges follow?

 Is there any resistance before 4700?

edit:  Never mind - I see some at ~4400

Price anyone? $4400 and climbing 

Just counting on some crazy exponential adoption. It's impossible to compare the linear Bitcoin increase to anything else.

This is slightly terrifying.

Sorry, what are we talking about here ?

So I gave my nieces and nephews some bitcoins a few years ago and they have the addresses.

But it looks like they'll miss out on the Bcash giveaway. Should I chance withdrawing their Bcash and add the funds to their current address or not risk it?

I don't know if there is any exact solution, Elwar.    Losing 85 bitcoins in one shot is a pretty big deal, and I have suffered some similar losses - but mine was through forced phone porting and simultaneously gaining access to two of my main e-mail accounts.  

Localbitcoins, is a tougher deal in terms of dealing directly with the public and also possibly gaining some exposure because these folks learn that you have coins and also might learn too much about your personal details and your possible bitcoin hodlings, and gosh we likely have to take additional precautions regarding how much we expose ourselves and our coins.. and even if it might be inconvenient to NOT store too many coins in such a way such as on local bitcoins or some of the wallets that we might use in our trading?  

There are attempts at plausible deniability, too, with some wallets, which maybe relates to how we store our coins, but these various devices and systems are still evolving, and if we want security, we have to learn how to employ these mechanisms in ways that maybe even makes it difficult for ourselves to get easy access to some aspects of our BTC stash.

In late August / early September, there were a couple of weeks in which I removed my localbtc advert because people were acting too crazy, and I was also feeling vulnerable in various regards because of how many coins I had in certain wallets and exchanges, including coins I had on local bitcoins and on my blockchain.info wallet.. and a lot of this additional vulnerability came from what seemed to be a sustained price increase that largely took us from the lower $1k prices to approaching $5k.. and then the small number of coins that I had in some locations, started to look like a lot of money.

So, keeping only a couple of coins in each location could be a partial solution, but it might not prevent nor discourage a more serious and determined attacker with guns and spotlights.. so what to do, what to do,?  and maybe even lessening local bitcoin's profile could be a solution, because even if you can increase your bitcoin holdings every year by trading at a premium, it might not be worth the risk to trade so much on local bitcoins, unless extensive precautions are taken?  

I certainly do not have a complete grasp on my various vulnerabilities and there are a couple of places that I likely maintain too many coins, a couple of exchanges, which could cause some problems on various levels whether it is just third party risk or if it is a kind of forced extortion risk (which is probably not a great likelihood, but it becomes a bit of a bigger likelihood when more bad people learn about bitcoin - and we have heard that some people kill over stealing an iphone, so if they can get a hold of 1 bitcoin, they might engage in worse actions to extort... and at what point are we safe?  And what are good measures to take? 

These are likely ongoing questions that we need to figure out including figuring out successorship issues too.. because it would be sad to accumulate a lot of coins, and then no one in the family gets access to them because they cannot figure out holding amounts nor passwords nor other security measures.. OMG.   

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

What was your point?  To lecture?  If I have a ledger nano s and a trezor, then seems like I would have a sufficient quantity of coins there, too, no?  Maybe I have some coins and other value on exchanges for trading?  How is a guy going to trade coins if he does not put some coins (and/or value) on exchanges...   You have no idea regarding my exposure and you are assuming and giving unsolicited advice.. was that your point? 

If your point was to share information about possible places to keep coins, then that was helpful.. but going on an unsolicited lecture still seems quite presumptuous to me and you do seem to be assuming facts that are not in evidence.  no?   

Well, really it seems that you were not making any point - because no one really should believe that anyone, such as me, is offended from some goofball comments on the interwebs.   

Regarding my "new exchanges", I attempted to register and get verified on both Kraken and Bittrex, and Kraken verified me quickly and Bittrex has gotten hung up on some algorithm in regards to my verification documents and their support is not responding to my ticket in which i request assistance.

So, for me, it is good, for now, to have a place to send some of my Bitfinex value (that is Kraken), and I might lighten up my exchange load a bit too.  Currently I have  about 30% of my total value on various exchanges.. including the about 8% of my value that is currently on Bitfinex (all dollars have been converted), and has to be moved before November 9.

This has got to be the biggest bubble on either side of a thousand years. Something will give eventually. But someone dumped 28,000 coins, like what, yesterday? I'm cautiously optimistic.

Yep, that guy gets it. Here's another good quote:


This finance guy grasps it, but for some reason Jamie Dimon cannot? Or does but won't cop to it...

wave 5 complete?

TALKY MAN TALK TOO MUCH

i think we all can guess who owns it.

and its fate is way, way more exciting than anything bitcoin is gonna do in the next 24 hours.

oh, my god...

We have seen this before. Exchanges reducing or stopping withdrawl - Why do banks do this, because they do not have enough cash to hand out all at once

If bittrex don't do something quick like this week.

It is time to abandon ship

Must we all be reminded of MtGox and Cryptsy

Start moving coins while you can

Again if bittrex do not fix it this week, I am serious move your coins

We will undergo a media and social campaign to bring awareness of this issue into the mainstream news at the end of the week

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463202.msg24871464#msg24871464


this issue has been ongoing now for over 2 months

Earwig. Low.

Stamp moving again. 637 coins left priced under 10k.

If it breaks 10k we should get to 20k within a few hours.

You shouldn't feel the need to give excuses like the one that you just did, even if you have or don't have friends or a community for dunno what reason. There is no sense in giving an explanation, especially at your age.

All of that is irrelevant.

Any of our existences, not really that relevant at all. It is just the information we manage to imprint onto our spirits / souls that is important and relevant.

And I don't care about people or friends if I have them, I know many people, I get along with all of them. But I try to avoid all of them. Humans tend to have a low awareness level.

Awareness is not something that grows in trees and people can just consume the fruits and gain those abilities. They actually need to develop those awareness skills.

This is exactly what I was expecting to happen right before the whole thing unwinds and crashes to zero. The signals are all there. Get out while you still can.

Brilliant

"confirmed sources"....new WO inside joke catchphrase  

Where's kwukduck?

I dissuade that the source is transparent and hostile in hoarding audibility that omniscient broadness unknown not more certainly disparage the air nonexistent unknowns and insipid undefined. But, no. Horrifically castigate nothingness.

Is zero low?  I have a zero.

A big short is forming..?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-04/the-next-big-short-hedge-funds-prepare-to-trade-against-bitcoin


spooked
again

Nope. There will be tears. But what can you do?

But these turds need tu buy a shitload of BTC first before shorting for a big fall, or i am wrong? If i am right, price has to be pumped as hell first before that.

Bitcoin is dead.

Remember kids:

Futures whale traders that need more supply will gladly short bitcoin and pump the alts to entice you to part with your btc.  

Bitcoin: 'I'm part of a crazy wave' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42281004

A whole 20 bitcoin?


That's cute.

single digits tomorrow

True.  9 hours since the last ATH.  Go home, boys.  No good can come of this.

Racism is the act of being a cuckold and not standing up to the evil cult known as jews running the media and banks pushing their white genocide agenda in the US and Europe.  THAT's racism you cucks.  First the jews came for the nazis, and I said nothing, because I was not a nazi.  Then the jews came for the Coinbase users, and I was...oh wait.

You have been struck for 9999 damage by full screen zerohedge advertisement....cucks!

Me too - but there are plenty of people here from 'murica that seem not to have noticed.  Maybe they're all for freedom being sold off, I guess enough of 'em voted for....

Ok, never mind.  I will keep quiet and just be (very quietly) flabbergasted.

That tears it. I'm ignoring everyone.

This feels like a trap. Let me guess, fees were too high? Confirmation took too long and the ice cream melted? Then you used <insert alternative cryptocurrency> and it was so user friendly?

If CNN says it, it must be true. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsaU4-AUW2Y

And still you bring no ice cream, no flower.

brilliant

Started tanking right after Adam admitted Blockstream employs an army of full-time paid shills.

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/943876564856348673

#justsayin'

If not for Ver, it would have been another drama to fuel the drop anyway

My partner just mumbled something about "I guess I should buy at these prices".

I consider this a bullish sign.

An eagles cawing is heard echoing across the desolate plains. The water buffalo perks its ears.

Inverse H+S forming on 30 minute Stamp (target $14,900)






https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inverseheadandshoulders.asp

I like how casascius (Mike Caldwell) jabbed Core fees!

"Neurotypical users will probably applaud having the transaction fees back under $1 before they give accolades for typo correction.  Core will lead the way in most efficient usage of pixels in a QR code, while economic forces make winners of the alt coins that don’t charge $30 in fees to do a simple transaction."

Well, no. I merely pointed out the time correlation. I said nothing about causation. What's the problem - reading or logic?

Fees are getting a bit better. Of course they would be much better if Coinbase and others used Segwit.

I hate to burst your bubble but this is probably going down.

Breaking 24777$ prediction game

this



Does anyone remember computers? You used to have your money set aside to buy a computer...you go to the store and buy one, then a month later you find out that the same computer money has more value now, the computer you have is worth a lot less and you could have something better...if only you didn't spend that money on the computer and waited.

I guess the ad geniuses didn't think that through when they came up with those gizmos.

If you can't buy an 8th of weed for $40 because the fee to pay the vendor costs more than the bag of pot... there is a issue for sure.  Personally, I believe there is an issue if Bitcoin can't be used in vending machines.

Ton of people sitting on piles of cash last year waiting for the drop I suppose. but it never came.   Bitcoin is funny like that.  

Strange now,  I took a 2 year break and just now starting to catch up and look at all my old accounts.  Always kept .1 btc on my phone just to see what prices were like every now and then.   It's been a big shock to look at my accounts now days and just the dust .1btc on my phone went from 40 dollars to 1500.   Crazy.. I'm a perma holder though.. using that old Reptilia strategy of selling 2% at every 10% rise if you need to.  I never needed to since I was working so much and didn't have time to really bother.   But he did give some great advice.

It seems to have met a little resistance at $16.4k.

Let's see if it's short-lived or if we consolidate here for a little while to catch our breath.

Somewhere between Carolina and Kansas is my guess.

ain't LN blockchain admission of failure Ain't we better off using ripple at this point ?

Are you fucking retarded or something ?

LN is an evolutionary step for Bitcoin.

When you check your email, would you rather telnet/ssh directly to the mail server and issue manual commands, or would you prefer to use a mail client that does all the heavy lifting for you ?

but off-chain txs are an admission of failure, security and trust is compromised, it's not blockchain anymore, it's patch-up.

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

I'm getting those urges again, doctor...

I am completely serious. The trees aren't letting you see the forest behind. Yes, LN in its first phase might introduce some sort of "centralization" in that a hub and spoke model will be easier, cheaper and faster to deploy. But:

1- We are talking about L2. I wouldn't have any problem in additional layers more or less de/centralised. You shouldn't too, as they are all optional... just additional layers!

2- That's just at its first stage. It won't be that hard to evolve into a more decentralized structure some time later.

3- Rerouting a big amount of tx's to those (maybe) more "centralised" layers will free up more "space" for direct blockchain tx's.

... And, above all, it will be the best digital payment system ever known to man... Invest now, wait for it, and then fucking sell all your BTC for more shiny metals if that's your thing. Do you have some ethical (or mental) problem getting profits for your investments? No wonder you hate Jews so much. They don't fucking care about all those irrelevant details.

I'm doing it for him. He doesn't even know how to hold a mouse properly.

No, its just that all you guys are misplaced. You are wrong about the nature and situation with Bitcoin. Your solutions are not the best ones. You have let emotion and short sightedness direct you away from a coherent long term strategy. And now you shill an altcoin that isn't even as good as Litecoin.

Since Satoshi is still presumably alive, I wonder why he doesn't swing by every now and then to update us on what his vision is himself.

I think JayJuanGee is most likely Satoshi and is trolling us all.

BUSTED

I do not consider increasing blocks a good solution. It does not scale while the negative consequences for decentralisation are unclear. Since Bitcoin’s only true value lies in ‘decentralisation’, I support not hastily moving away from this core concept just to solve a current - perceived as immediate - issue. There is too much at stake.

I can admit that, if this was an enterprise, the blocksize increase would have come first as a temporary fix whilst the real scaling solution (LN) was being finishing development/tests/deployment/adoption etc... But it is not... decentralization has its pros and cons.

I have yet to see anyone explain how increasing the blocksize increases centralization. It seems to be some idea that just took hold and that everyone believes in, because they believe in it.

And it doesn't end. There will always be a need for improvements because there will always be competitors ready to take over if we stagnate. stagnation is death.

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

Why does BTC need improvements?  If it is digital gold -- designed to be held and not spent -- then high fees that make it more difficult to use could be seen as a feature.  Plus small blocks make it easier to run full nodes, which is important to many people. 

It will be interesting to watch BTC development move forward.  There was a huge portion of the community pushing for bigger blocks who have now shifted there holdings towards BCH.  These people will now support keeping BTC crippled at 1 MB, as they believe that shifting value from BTC -> BCH is now the best solution.  So we have a situation where both small-blockers will be pushing for no block size limit increase AND big-bockers (like me) will also be pushing for no block size limit increase.  So I think it will be difficult for BTC to scale if Lightning Network (LN) doesn't work out as planned.

Of course, if your of the view that use cases besides "holding" aren't important, then BTC is fine as is.  

Wheres all the memes? You have to keep the train going with memes!

It will take all my creative juices to fill this kind of order. Can't we just pay to have our memes shipped in?

ffs, when are these exchanges going to open up for new accounts again?



Is Changelly any good?

Meh. It's merely cartoon violence. I'ze been a keyboard warrior since before the internet. I can take it.

When bitcoin first appeared I imagined a world of peer to peer payments with no central institutions. LN is most definately not that.

The graphic tries to show how funding a channel is like funding a 'hot wallet'. A more accurate description is that funding a channel is like depositing money with a bank.

I always said LN will be supported by big money. No doubt there will be an epic pump, because 'scalability is solved'. I don't like it but I can profit from it. The original dream of bitcoin doesn't exist though.

I'm quite surprised at all the negativity and uncertainty regarding BTC here.
IMHO BTC just went Hypodermic for a while and has now corrected back into the parabolic trend it has 'always' been in:


(SOZ; can't get the image to show here? Hopefully some who can will post it plz)

The above image hasn't been updated since the 4th, and the new 14K bottom (that aligns very nicely with the other 4 bottoms just below the top parabolic trend line) isn't shown.

IMHO exchanges need to be somehow persuaded/forced to adopt Segwit, but other than that we are looking at a an excellent buy opportunity atm.

Good point.  Then there would be no spoon.

How was it with a paper wallet? If I have 10 Bitcoins on a paper wallet, I have to sent them all at once to the exchange? Otherwise the rest will get lost?

No you can send whatever you want... but that paper wallet is may no longer be "cold" storage.

Why is the price going down? 

Doesn't the entire world want BTC, the money of the future?

Money that you cannot spend, or transfer to a friend, or experiment with, or really do anything with except HODL and make memes about future lambos. 

Lightning Network is coming any day now and then fees will be low and merchant adoption will sky rocket! 

Except that LN doesn't even work in theory and even ignoring that it would still takes years to bootstrap an entirely new network because that's what LN is -- an independent network to bitcoin.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/kfc-canada-launches-bitcoin-bucket/news-story/eca93b5f013b4e96f0e4e8204d21a18e

we need this in the uk

"Coincidence." 

I don't think it will pass customs. USA chicken pumped full of steroids fluoride and up my own arse bullshit

Guys, use Bitstamp for smaller transactions. I funded stamp with 1 btc and have sent numerous transactions (avg size is about 50 usd) with no fee at all. They batch their transactions so its free for you and almost free for them aswell, win - win.

Only a handful of alts are weathering the storm as well as Bitcoin.   There's a lesson in there somewhere.

i sold my house and went all-in and panic bought TRX at $0.24
now i lost almost everything
i dont know what to do now, my wife will probably kill me

you guys think it is the best to just sit it out?

Out here in the snowy wilderness, on horseback, all by my lonesome.

Bland sort of afternoon.

No coyotes in sight.

The herd is all happy, safe, and healthy - best I can tell.

A seductively baritone breeze, with a slight lispy quality, just passed me, whispering into my ear "Thirteen Thouthand... I'm coming for you thoon, Bawb..."

talking of monero
https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinex/comments/7r8z3w/bitfinex_froze_my_account_with_over_1_million/
bfx and pigs in league. 'tainted' coins ...

Bitcoin <-> Monero atomic swaps ? What a time to be alive !

Its going down again - and again lost money omg

Didn't you know, Torque, that Bitcoin Unlimited is Open Source 2.0?  They be gotten more things figured out. 

On a tangentially-related matter, does anyone know why the forums got rid of the glowing ignore color, based on how many people have a particular user marked for ignore ?

Disappeared around the end of 2013, IIRC, about the same time avatars were locked (for years).  Avatars became changeable again within a couple years, but the forum just couldn't afford the expense of glowing ignore buttons.  There's the new software to develop, you know!  Can't be robbing from that for trivial things.

Is people like you that are holding the train.. you waited how many years to sell BTC and now you cant wait to be a fiatllionare?  WTF?

The fact that they purport of be able to rate blockchains is utterly ridiculous. What do they know about blockchains??

Um what exactly is the chain in the bull's rear attached to?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

When is the fork of these meritcoins and will there be another airdrop?  

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It appears we are seeing some nice sidewaysish-upish action over the last 24 hours or so.

Gut check says this is a nice coiling going on right now. Hoping to make another move by Monday/Tues at this rate, ahead of a Wednesday meeting with my financial people, to sign paperwork getting the retirement plan started, ahead of schedule.

I'm starting to wrestle with introspective issues now, like, "How do I break it to my employer that I'm leaving, without nuking bridges ?"

Social politics suck.

I love you guys (no homo).

Thanks for being so chill and playfully understanding while I share and "struggle" with these first world problems on the WO thread.

Looking forward to many more years of posts about watching Bitcoin reach astronomical valuations, while aiming to run a "well respected and secured" LN node, and seeing how that works out for increasing my Bitcoin holdings into the future. I thought about naming it something obvious like "BobLawblawsHouseOfPants", but figure that's just asking for trouble.

May just try the whole daytarding thing.

Haven't decided between settling in the outskirts of Houston or Dallas, but looking towards Texas for their tax laws, cost of living, weather, lifestyle, and travel-hubs.

Driving 911's in the snow is just uncivilized.

... and all impossible futures generally are fascinating.

Looks like the whole tx spam job by Ver's minions, Wu, Armstrong, Rizun, jbreher, cyberdoc and co. is officially a failed exercise in self-falattio

https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#6m

time to find a new FUD spam song for bitcoin's official losers brigade.

No proof as in theorem, but lots of hard numerical evidence showing suspect correlation.
I suspect the operation was only economical with regionally subsidized energy back in China.
As soon as you become a smaller part of the earth mining pool, the cost of spamming grows like 1 - 1/n, if your hashrate is 1/n of the total.
I'd challenge a malicious opponent to pull this off in, say, Canada.

I'm pretty sure Coinbase's practices played a bigger role here than many of us (I, for one!) suspected. On the other hand, that would make it even easier for an adversary who is large enough to swallow the backblow in lost mining awards (1/n  for smallish n - say 3.5-5). Playing the devil's advocate apprentice: it might have been a necessary, or merely favorable, condition to have big boss exchange playing along. But it's only a matter of how much you have to burn/how long it lasts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/facebook-cryptocurrency-ads-banned--including-bitcoin-and-icos.html

Facebook banning ALL crypto advertising including the legit companies.

I love when they say goes to zero. Then I will by all bitcoins for zero and sell it for 0.00001$ and will be infinetely rich!

His days are numbered. Let him laugh for now.

As a seasoned and professional power-top, I would council caution at this juncture. Possibly use the safe-word. (maybe)

Who sold at the bottom?

The sentiment on the forum perplexes me. When its at a high everyone is super bullish and when its down 70% (where there is always a huge bounce) the forum is super bearish. I thought all the super smart bitcoin people here would be better than that.

Anyone hear from Rosewood Rosewater ? I'm concerned the dude is passed out in a ditch somewhere, completely obliterated on scotch.

Or maybe hes just recognizes spending $10K on a pair of lighters or owning lighters worth that much is pretty fucking stupid. I dont care If someone bought BTC in 2010 and are worth 8 figures, respectable people dont go around calling people poor because they dont buy $3000 pens or $5000 lighters.

8185 gonna get broken soon

So according to you, no-one should make price predictions, because they may offend you, or be correct?? (and that would offend you too)
And while you are trashing my screenshot , please do explain in detail what you consider either incorrect or inaccurate , or even non importance (with reasoning) , otherwise your bitter BS just became even more transparent.

Here, here's a nice fresh cup of crushed bull soul on ice...do enjoy  

Hi Cuck. Time for you to call this weeks ATH

OMG. I call it how I see it. And I bet that's something you will never do, cos the only thing you seem to be able to do is hate on ppl.
If I'm so useless, please ignore me.

Woohoo! Reversal is near!

Close to a Morning Star pattern in the weekly:

Yes yes, I know... which is why I'm admitting my initial experiments with going hog-wild funding channels, willy-nilly, was an ill-conceived idea.

Going to need to re-think the game-theory of this.

I am told that RSK is still a year away. 

“I accidentally killed it.”

Meanwhile one of my younger friends in his 20s can't seem to understand Bitcoin. He thinks it's some kind of pyramid/Ponzi scam and that "the government" will "shut it down". Meanwhile he alternates between Mom's couch in Toronto and Dad's winter place in Thailand trying to get rich playing online poker. All this for a kid with a tested IQ over 180. Go figure.

Age has nothing to do with it. Mental flexibility counts a lot more.

what do we see here? please comment your chart for newbies like me.

Poll reset.

Brag: I voted two weeks ago.

If you see jbreher on the train he or she is not invited . die bch die

Yeah. So, Second Life. The VR community. You can buy and sell virtual items. Other than you can buy them inworld, there is also an internet store. An exchange. The URL: slexchange.com . Tell me you don't see it.

Incidentally, I would tend to think the URL you mention would be worth more as Penis Land than as Pen Island. Then again, with the pens you're talking about, maybe I'm leading a sheltered existence. Best hoity-toitiest I ever owned was a Mont Blanc.

he wasn't?

You all got your trouser tokens. Stop your complaining.

Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.

ether can stop tanking any time here...dammit

Big walls against LN spotted

https://youtu.be/DFZOrtlQXWc

Just here for mere hours and you make yourself a fool.  Your predictions already in shambles.  And yet another sexually insecure idiot using the word "Cuck".  It reveals a lot about who you are. 

But don't worry...  on the next downswing you will be able to dance around and act like you predicted it. 

Then it will go back up again.

I'll be looking for that 2k floor this week.  Shoot I'll give it 'till next Sunday night.

Dudes. DUDES. 'Hol up there. I promise you I'm HODLing for at least $12k...

Fine. Fuck you man. Shit's gonna drop below $10k in the next 24 hours.

Are you happy now ?!

go bob    looks like the green eye monster is rattling some people. I'm happy for you mate . respect to you and your foresight. Happy retirement 

So stop quoting the trolls so we don't all have to read their posts over and over

LOL. Mempool almost empty again. What a time to be alive.

Up yours, BCash fucktards !!! Tongue my fartbox !

I always appreciate it when a newcomer to the thread makes it abundantly clear in their first post that they should be ignored.

Much more efficient that way.

You praise the blockchain technology in general Bitcoin doesn't equal the blockchain technology. I see that the blockchain technology isn't dependent on bitcoin and bitcoin value isn't guaranteed by the blockchain technology.

EU hearing press release is largely very positive and balanced, only this piece they will need to explain to me : "wallet providers should be subject to the Anti-Money Laundering Directive."

Are they not aware that you can just build your software from code?  Will anybody that ever coded a feature for wallet software need to do AML for the entire world population?  Square peg, meet round hole...

Ok. I can't figure out what's going on with the mempool, pending transaction fees, or unconfirmed transaction counts.

We're in fucking bat country again, Goddamnit.

Boy just add my date to the list already before someone gets hurt .

The lastest from Masterluc:

Bitcoin dominance now 41.7%, increasing daily. If this continues, Ethereum and many altcoins might get in further trouble. I'm guessing segwit is playing out a role here, I still don't expect bitcoin to get dominance of 60%+ again though.

Bitcoin seems to be stabilizing at $11,000, and looking bullish. I'd not be surprised if it surpasses $12,000 within the next 2 days.

Hey, how's it going boys.

Chopstick here.

So I find it interesting how a day or so after going on an anti-Core rant, my account is mysteriously "hacked", PW changed, my account is inaccessible , can't restore it,  change password doesn't work, secret passphrase doesn't work, etc etc.

In any event, Bitcoin is still doing what it's always done...

Pumpin' and dumpin'

The only difference now is that wall street is trading our futures. Wheeee.

I'm not sure why people got excited about that.

The first thing they did was short it.

Hi to all experts anyone knows about? When the altcoins go to the moon again?

Dont sell the coin you have to avoid losses. And continue to invest until you have extra money to gain much higher income when value starts to moon.

Going up is NOT bad news   - yet, I personally think that breaking ABOVE $12k, is the reasonable start to get excited point.

I am all for getting excited... I want to get excited, too.... however, too frequently guys (and gal) here in this thread are getting overly excited over small price moves up and down, and we continue to consolidate.. with seemingly $12k being the new price resistance point that we need to consider getting above..

I do like it though.. I do like the ongoing upwards price pressures... .. and getting above $11,500 from yesterday was good, and getting above $11,780 from a couple of weeks ago (2/20) will be good too... (if it happens)

B'awb

what is that on the horizon?

"Carolina", he screamed again. "There's that damned wormtrain. Making snake straight across your chasm! Now what have I told you, if I ever caught him 'round here I'd whoop him." She said nothing, smoothed the sides of her dress, and sighed. "You know", she said, kicking the kitchen floor. "Maybe I might should just leave then." "The power is in you little lady," he said. He walked her to the window. "See that rainbow? Well, you just keep clicking those heels."

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.

The symmetry of this beast is astonishing...

So far.


4H candles

Fucking brilliant. Put that shit on a placard and take it to city hall.
Asshole.

It's possible the man just didn't realize the carnage he was unleashing.

Long battle at 9.2k, but with decreasing volume.

EDIT - Actually, for now it's more like a skirmish.

no, explorer speaks for me in this matter

But is supply really increasing slowly ?

We get 144 blocks per day = 1800 Bitcoins

That`s 18 Million USD (based on 10k) new money is needed every day just to hold the price steady.

Today I'm assuming this dump is due to Google banning crypto-related ads. Things will calm down soon, as usual.

I'm worried about the mayor

he always takes these things so hard

Yeah.  I have been thinking the same thing.

Bix Weir is a fucking moron.

No one is going to have a clue to figure out who you are because you have privacy embedded right into your user name.   

Where exactly is the dungeon of capitulation? Negative prices?

I think it is not enough. Correction will come, but in Bitcoins favor.

for an coin that can not be used as a currency i highly doubt that

Awesome - that was off my radar - can see a few others going that way too

Could 7575 be the bottom?

It's tickling with 45.5% now.

BTW, I'm not a very much chart specialist but doesn't this look like a double-bottom? No one seems to be talking about it.

45.6

 


wow, this is escalating quickly. what is going on in the altworld? eth collapse?  

Why do people draw bats all over charts? It never means or predicts anything

Did anybody actually read Jimbos post ?

Jimbo, i apologise in behalf of all these money orientated people here, they have nothing other than money in their brain.
You heartless bunch.

Wait, one day you will be toothless. Don´t believe me ?
Just wait ! And it will be no fun, guaranteed . . .

I don't usually find "drawing triangles" to have any use. But that triangle seems to match up perfectly with the next area of support. Maybe you found the one triangle that actually means something!

Best analysis so far, simple, intuitive, symmetrical, factual, timely.  You dont need to understand the theory behind it to see the possibilities.
+ Merits.

wow

ether's done innit?

maybe btc is different, but pumps like this are typical for bear markets.
bull usually does not involve 20-30% day gains (apart from blowoff tops).
we shall see.

Not to be Debbie Downer, but do you remember in summer of 2014 when:

1. Price was held steady sideways @ $420/btc for nearly 2-1/2 months. Almost the whole summer. This felt like forever.

2. Price then pumped with bull flags to ~$650/btc. or so. Many said this was the sign that the downturn and sideways was over.

3. Price crashed again in 2015 to ~$200/btc. .... nearly 7 months later!

That's why I've never trusted this market. Once whales have control of the float, they can peg it wherever they want for whatever length of time they wish.

His Flying Noodliness hears all prayers.

(Sometimes the answer is no)

$946k per btc in about a year? if that comes true I will buy a lambo for everyone that merits this post.

Ironic that everyone here wants a Lambo yet has utter contempt for Roger Ver and CSW:

The only two narcissistic shitheads in the crypto space that actually drive those tool wagons.    

You party poop pessimist, explorer poorer.  

Pages are artificially scarce. Even if the users run out of posts they are willing to dump, a mod could jump and just start deleting posts himself.

Even if ETH has been my biggest earner, I have to agree that it is also running out of potential like bitcoin did in the past. In all probability, EOS will eventually make it obsolete. My senses tell me that EOS will get the most hype because of this in the coming year or two.

I understand if this can be a little confusing for you.

Sometimes I feel like quoting you so the ones ignoring you can see funny artistic things...

Is the volume unusually low even for a weekend, or is it just me?

I'm trying figure out why I didn't sell at $14k. Am I retarded? Hindsight bias? How obvious was this crash? idk

I'll say the same thing at $3k I guess. I know nothing. It's not an easy way to go through life.

just because her genitals happen to take place on the outside of her body doesn't give you the right to not want to do it with her. 

No buts about it. You march right in there and have relations with that ladyboy. Don't get sassy with us

I’m ready for a little running of the bulls. 

We're close to the bottom

I know a lot of you are socks and long cons and trolls, but for the rest, I'm going to be saying my goodbyes soon. I don't want to get sticky about it. I guess it's personal. Just listen: good luck, godspeed, thank you. It's been a real eye-opener.

... that we're all devilish cunts?

My attempts to have my identity verified were unsuccessful, I'm still here. Total failure to capitulate. AMA

Sometimes i’m very curious who in This threat or the actually really LONGterm hodlers ..., the once with 75-85-90% btc stash off crypto but to hodl and not to trade with , the REAL locker up coins :-) i have a few ledgers with i think 5mm dust on iT   of Just not touching them , i even allways buy a DIP to keep the amount of BTC apart for When i need too pay a winner  in the list game , never to touch my actual locker up coins  

apollo says we go to 8000 8100 then break 6K for a bottom around 4500-4700

Sorry if this has been posted before but it was updated recently. Torque this is mostly for you and roach too.
https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a+
Why do they do this?

True. Central banks can print money to buy bitcoin and no fuck will be given to the inflation. They dont care.

However, they cant do the same to bitcoin.

There is strong talk that a gold backed Yuan and a silver backed ruble are imminent.

Everything is manipulated inc. bitcoin (by whales and exchange bots currently) and its naive to think otherwise.  When bankers run the world behind the scenes controlling the laws and the money printing presses they can own and control anything they wish too.

Always makes me laugh when people here claim they can manipulate the gold markets but not bitcoin for some reason even though gold's market cap dwarfs bitcoin.

The level of bullishness in this thread is bizarre and concerning since I normally factor in a reverse sentiment indicator.

Eh. Bitcoin is still fucked up, hodling. Everyone's got to complain about something, waah waah.

Then again it's much nicer to be stuck at 7k for a few years than $600.

canadian localbitcoins volume just went through the roof - https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/CAD

related?

but so did europe as well. it's far higher than the peak of the bubble. i'm really not sure why.

Easter on April Fool's Day on BitcoinTalk.

What could go wrong?

Is he saying "more baby sausage!"?