Which if you girls keep selling down to exactly $500 at BFX?

From looking at ze volume chart I first assumed there was a hidden order there but no, it's some fatso who keeps selling down to $500 exactly but never below. I thought this fat-girl was done yesterday after spewing out nearly 2k BTC but no, she is clearly at it again today.

1) Who is this fat women doing this?
2) How many BTC has she got left?
3) War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it.
4) This bullflag won't break up to the upside dragged by western exchanges as long as she keeps on doing this unless China (who did 8k BTC between 3070 and 3080 yesterday before trying to move up) drags BFX by the hair.

You're buying back then?

Why in the hell would you sell at 473?

You're supposed to BUY low and sell high!

Edit: never mind...I think I missed the sarcasm.  My sarcasm meter wasn't properly calibrated.

Weak minds are incapable of vision, conviction.  Weak minds connect to weak hands.  Thus does wealth gravitate to those who are able to form sound conclusions and retain them in the face of an onslaught of deceit.  With strong hands we scale the mountains of adversity.

I hope you traded those glasses for tissues to wipe your tears when this train leaves you behind.

You do realize that in-between 'bubbles' there are always people talking like it's the end of bitcoin.
Thing is, the last year has been exceptionally well for bitcoin with adoption and growth of the network. You do the math on what the price eventually does.

oldbones - new account

A little ++ is still a ++

... this year I really don't like those moments when we are under $500....

It should be already OVER 9000! ...

Someone told today that there is not enough of Bulls around ... I think there are many bulls but this is not the only thing which is needed to spike the price.

so what... well basically when crop after crop of newbie accounts sign up, and then treat us with one liner insights all within a few days of each other, and all saying the same thing... I and most everyone else just thinks... oh look its that faaaaaalaing guy or the duuuump guy or the x other sockpuppet twats that come on here with their insightful "I just got out, I am so lucky" crud that it gets tired...
much wow, much information,much communication, such much waste
It is like a plague , I wish newbie accounts banned from this thread tbh... if it is not sockpuppets, it is headless chickens
tis my opinion- sue me

I think we are losing adoption NOW.  User numbers don't seem to be rising at all, and the main complaint is losing money on their investment.  I literally know no one else who owns coins anymore.  This manufactured drop from $600 is killing the tech. (Tes, exchange rates matter, trolls.)

Note that game theory says the price will trend to zero.  As long as there are hundreds of people with enough coins to play the dump game, one of them will continue doing it to make their extra 20 or 30 coins per day.  If you gave me 3k btc today, I could guarantee I would have 6k in 90 days.  The game is too easy.  

Those posters who say that the only people who care about the price (exchange rate) are get rich quick dreamers are deluded.  If I could buy a laptop with 2 bitcoins 3 months ago, but now need to use 3 btc, there is a serious problem.  And as long as 99.9% of goods require USD to purchase, the exchange rate is important.

I left out one point before: look at how much concentrated effort it took to break through support at 500.  Thousands and thousands and thousands of coins dumped to break support and make the dump game possible again.  How many of the big guys had to help to break through?  I sincerely thought it was impossible to reach 490...forgetting that there are single individuals with 50k coins who could wipe out the entire order book.

Now, explain to me how it is possible to have another bubble.  It will be a race to see who can dump fastest and hardest to make the biggest percentage gain on a thin order book.  IIRC, to cut the price 40% in November only took a 1k dump; stops triggered, margins called, panic selling, huge profit with no risk.  They won't be able to control themselves when the opportunity arises next time .

I will say this with all honesty: I no longer believe btc has any chance of being a serious currency due to its users.  I have always been a short term agnostic and long term bull.  I am full bear now.  I doubt that we will ever see 700 again, and 300's will be here soon.  The big guys are warning everyone everyday that they want lower prices.  Believe them.

It is debatable whether a rise/fall in the number of speculators indicates a rise/fall in the level of adoption.

someone desperate to sell on bitfinex

Huge offers appearing now on Bitfinex

The way you trade this is as follows.


If the offers get pulled, it was a bear trap. Most likely somebody was covering their short or buying low at these levels. The 2000 BTC walls were to scare you into selling.


If the offers get filled, then its bearish momentum. Such as what happened 3 days ago...

All this has happened before and will happen again....

lol, you think someone is that fool and give free commission.
There was big order and it was eaten by others.

I know that depth is almost meaningless, but... there are 17k BTC of bids down to 400$ @bitfinex

The whole of this comment is so stupid that it is NOT worth responding to in a detailed manner, and really the comment reeks of someone who is talking his/her book.  If you do NOT believe in bitcoin anymore, then why don't you just sell all of it, and just walk away with whatever fiat you have remaining.  GOOD BYE.  Instead, no you are likely going to continue to stay here and talk your bullshit until such point that you will say that you bought back in.... possibly with more coins.. but if you get left by the choo choo, that would be even better carma to reward you for your apparently deceitful presentation.

Regarding the bold session above, good luck doubling your coins every 90 days or guaranteeing such.  I am pretty sure that you would NOT put your money where your mouth is b/c if you were to make such a bet that you can double your BTC stash in 90 days, the odds are pretty great that you would lose such a bet.

You're not alone. I also feel these stories are manufactured. It is not what I experience with other people.
Sure, some of them are in doubt, but others are at the brink of buying their first bitcoin because of my enthusiastic talk about it.

look at the history broader than 30 days .. also look at the history broader than the last 9 months.  Maybe also explain diversification and only investing your comfort level rather than investing either balls to the wall or expectations to get rich quickly?  Even though you may be a trader or others may want to attempt to get rich through trading, most people lose a lot of money through trading and a more sound dollar cost averaging system should be contemplated and employed.. in other words buying and holding.. and investing in small increments.

When did you buy in? and how did you lose money?  did you buy high and sell low? or get margin called? how exactly did you lose a lot of money?

You mostly seem to be full of shit and talking your book, but since you gave some borderline non-trollish responses, I will respond in turn.

If you are disappointed, likely you set up your own false expectations or over invested or failed to have a strategy. 

Probably, you are just saying that you are disappointed b/c you seem to be trolling us, yet disappointed seems to be an awkward choice of words.. mostly you can be disappointed about yourself, which would make the most sense for a decent context for the use of the word.






your odds are stated weirdly... are you saying only 30% chance that bitcoin will rise from it's present price?   Actually, the odds seem pretty decent that BTC prices will rise from its present price in the very near future.. less than a month is very likely.. but I am NOT really very certain about these kinds of predictions.. if we are talking about a year or even 5 years, then the odds are pretty fricken high that BTC will rise from its current price.. and there is a matter of quantity and a matter of stability and a matter of considering whether cashing out at any point is appropriate as or after such rise has occurred and people will come to varying conclusions regarding that.



If you lost money, likely it is due to your trading.  You do NOT lose money until you cash out, and if you picked unrealistic time lines then maybe you just had a bad strategy or a bad plan.

If you want to tell people that you are a stupid-ass fuck up, then that is your choice.  Sometimes it would be better to frame the topic a little more objectively and a little bit beyond your own narrow experiences (especially if you made some stupid ass mistakes b/c you were greedy or if you just merely had some bad luck).  In other words, bitcoin is far from over,and if you believe that there are going to be further losses, you and your friends may well miss the train or being running after it.




Bitcoin does NOT appear to be in such a perilous stage as you seem to be describing it to be.  Yes, there may be additional decreases in price and price may possibly (though seemingly unlikely) sink into the $300s again, but even that would NOT be a death knell to bitcoin absent some further negative developments above and beyond downward price manipulation.




I would NOT force or attempt to persuade anyone.. If you want to be helpful to people, you merely need to provide them some information and allow them to come to their own conclusion(s) regarding how and whether to proceed.

, dude, you were really starting to worry me for a bit there, but knowing you can flip-flop on a dime like that gives me a totally different perspective on your past contributions, so let me just say...

"Welcome aboard the wall observer train"

Welcome aboard, I'm glad you have your ticket ready but I regret to inform you that our predictometer is signaling for a delay.

The predictometer is saying we need to back up to the 450 marker we passed a while ago. (Just between you and me, the predictometer has been really acting up lately. Sometimes, it even flips around 180 degrees and the train just takes off before all the passengers can even get on board!)

But no worries, your seat is reserved, just sit back and enjoy the complementary champagne while you wait for the train to reverse course.

What's that? No, no, I've spoken with the train engineer, Mr. Whale Dumpster himself! He's assured me that there is absolutely no chance that the train will roll back to that cliff near the 400 marker we passed way back.

Just sit back, relax, and enjoy your front row seat on the ride of a lifetime.

 

You better close your shorts and fast, dude.

shorts on bitfinex went up from just under 9k to over 9,500 now, so none of the buying was shorts closing.

Same principle applies to a bitcoin theft. A bitcoin thief, if caught, will have his property gets seized and returned to the victim.

There is just no guarantee that the police would catch a banknote thief or a bitcoin thief. However, this is a matter of the police's competency, not whether bitcoin is better or worse than banknote.

who would come up with a ransom demand of 25 btc when having access to 1 000 000 btc ?

I don´t think this is going to happen as there are even more longs open. With USD 19 mln open this translates at current prices to more than 40.000 BTC (Not taking long positions in LTC into consideration). Bid side is only 26.000 coins to EUR 50....
Some will equal each other out, but then there will be still more longs to bring us rather down...

I think that a rise to 475 will be used to reopen the shorts which were were closed at 465. This is what I am going to do  

Keep in mind, many of those longs are the bids at 452 and below; compare the order books at Stamp and Bfx.  Even in this thread, people are talking about reserving 30 day swaps because the rate is so low.  That shows up as long swaps, even if no coins have been purchased.

I really, really, can't imagine anyone opening a new short when they could be squeezed so easily with nowhere to dump their position.  If a squeeze starts, they will be competing with me and everyone else here to buy. 9400 coins to $4800, 10,200 10,314 shorts open....let that sink in.  And then think about the whale that dumped 7k coins last month to squeeze the longs.

So this is clear: I hope no one changes their short position.  This could be unbelievably fun.

Very true statement. But there are enough bitcoins borrowed which are currently not used in a margin short position either. And that at much cheaper rates.

Same is true for the people who borrowed "cheap" USD.  Not sure what you mean with "trade against the wind". The overall trend over the last a few month has been down.

It's a bubble, buying above 100$ is stupid.

You, Sir, are an asshole.

We still over 480.

Do you expect we going to break the downtrend in few hours?

One more point.

I came across this reddit article:  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2h6yl3/no_faith_in_bitcoin_profit_from_shorting_it/

 I found it very interesting that people are promoting some ideas about shorting BTC... which in principle would NOT be a bad idea, but getting involved in shorts NOW seems really looney.. .to suggest merely because BTC has  gone down in price for nearly 10 months that NOW would be a good time to learn about shorting.. or to get involved in shorting seems to be totally looney, in my thinking.

It's bullish that some articles are promoting the concept of shorting?  Some naive people may think, "oh, I can short BTC?  Maybe I should try that?" 

Which would really be stupid in my thinking for people to be shorting (or learning about shorting), now. 

Surely, there are a few of us, even in this thread that are probably contemplating shorting (or have already shorted around this price territory) b/c they believe BTC prices will go down somewhere between $50 and $350. 

I do NOT have enough confidence to even contemplate such.. and just like always, I feel fairly clueless about the short-term price direction of BTC.

OMG this is a terrible news...

http://www.coindesk.com/new-fund-gives-traders-blue-chip-stock-exposure-bitcoin/

Gone..and we had a bull flexing +4300 in bids. Pulled now but I imagine he's going to market buy a bit and hope to get sold into.

prepare for fireworks

I'm pretty sure that manbearwhale ate his own wall to give us the impression that final capitulation had occurred. It worked! And i'm glad to finally see green on the charts again.

When he runs out of money and needs to take profit to ensure he can try again at a lower price, will you recognize it for what it is, or will you curse him for being a "manipulator" and "killing bitcoin?"

What is the opposite of a slow bleed? That is what it is looking like right now. Much better than slowly downward though!

Inorganic growth will not be sustained with organic demand. Keep that in mind when they run out of inorganic funds.

There was nothing positive or negative about that meeting. Nothing was decided it was just a Q&A session. Not well done, by the BTC side, either. They don't explain things well to those who aren't as technically savvy, which is unfortunate.

"And it just seems like based on what I have learned, some of those applications could be so compelling that it would be a real mistake for us as a commission to not make sure we are staying on top of these development's.
Not, because we want to do anything other than understand the developments because it seems like this protocol, the Bitcoin protocol or something like it is very, very likely here to stay.
So the more information and education we can do on this now in trying to stay somewhere on the appropriate spot of the learning curve, it seems to be a very sensible thing to do.
So I think that it has been very, very helpful and thank you for representing the CFCT staff and I will turn it back over now."

and "textbook bull trap"

please explain for non traders like me so I can understand what you guys are referring to! Thanks!

And another big dump.
You can forget about the trend reversal. The dumpers will stop it for sure. Back to bear market.

Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.

Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in?  

makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0.

because at this price level there are a lot of bulls and market is more liquid.

indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts.

Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily

eww do they really eat that shit in Austria?
lol

Its eaten all over the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testicle_(food)

Everyone happy again? After months of going down we got the first sign of a trend reversal and you right away dump the shit out of the market to make a few bucks. And the uptrend is over.
As always well done traders.

Back to months of bear market and daily posts here wondering why we aren't going up anymore.

Idiots.

Why arent you shorting?
Idiot.

Anybody take a look at the order books on stamp and bfx? We're likely going to $400 this week. Maybe today.

you spoke too soon

I sold it off exchange. I didn't want the price to drop below 400 again.

- ~4% in the last 7hrs...  OMG reversal!!11!  I'm fine with that

*sub-400.  Order restored

Wait wat?  My post pointed out that a 4% decline is not a "stop" but a 4% loss.  That is true now, and will remain true in 48 hrs, regardless of BTC price.

Not sure what you mean, but no price movement in the next 48hrs will change my outlook.  I've been bearish now ~1yr

Do you understand how trading works?   I make money on Bitcoin.  No need to be a bulltard to do that.  

Do you really think an iPhone costs $600 to make?  Do you know how much moolah Apple will make in fees over the lifespan of an iDevice?  Don't you think Apple could cludge together a crappy cheap iPhone Mini for the poor people?

You don't know anyone who spends 5k a year with CC?  Nice to meet you
*And that's assuming that an iPhone costs $600 to make (false), and that it will be tossed in a year (false).
And that it couldn't be offered via subscription (false).

Meanwhile, the total amount of BTC swaps (read: shorts) at Bitfinex has reached a historic high of 16.2k BTC.

Well I've tried and tried to hold this thing together
But you wanted more than I could give.
...

 

its a song... duh

The difference between humor and odor: one is a shift of wit.

Next they'd want to stop illegal online file sharing, oh wait...

Im interested in how collapsing currency could hope to convert over to bitcoin, or another crypto? wouldnt it need someone else prepared to sell them the coins in exchange for their increasingly worthless fiat?

And who would actually store their **private keys*** in their hand that is readable by NFC? Don't make me laugh.

yer I don't post often, but my account is 15 months.

I'm not joking..

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/okcoin-confirms-new-three-billion-euro-hedge-fund-trading-exchange/

That is the original rumour. In spite of the "confirmed" title, it (and every other news piece like it that I have seen) is entirely based on that phrase spoken by the OKCoin tech guy in that interview.  Note that he did not say that the fund invested in bitcoin or was going to trade bitcoin, and said "on our platform" rather than "at our exchange". 

Maybe, I expected this dump only some 6 - 8 hours from now, by looking at the MACD.
Bids at BTC-China went up 6x and asks 4x in a short amount of time, first I thought it's fake, but...

When it is not big news, no one will take him seriously anymore..

Maybe true in some sense... Even some Economist, I mean Finance Professor Mark Williams too claimed that BTC will crash to $10 by Mid-2014, but it was all hoax and instead, BTC recovered instead of crashing during that month...

Anybody got a clue on where we'll be going from here? I think up but the big retrace from $234 to $195 makes me unsure.

If everyone will start thinking like this, I don't think that BTC will ever get a stable value as it won't be anything but a stock on which people will bet just for the profit making purpose, let's take it as technology and not just as an opportunity.

Mark Karpeles a criminal master mind??? I don't know, he DON'T look like one, like at all....He looks to me more like super geek, not able to have social relationships...I wonder if there is some guy out there who could just look at his picture and just know 100% if guilty or not guilty....

"Blah blah blah traders are idiots because i have no idea how to make money in this any market" - ShroomsKit - every single day in 2014 and 2015

A lot of you are short it seems.

Expecting someone else to push the price lower?

Could you draw out the future for me and the people unsure of it please?
 

You say you don't know the future, then tell me we wont go up and will go down

Link please?

So to buy a 2mBTC coffee I'll need at least 3mBTC to insta-transact through bitpay?

Or something like this?

Well, you have a 1 out of 3 chance of being right directionally.

OK guys, this one will really make you laugh.

"Academic interest in E-mail only. Do not trust e-mail! Very skeptical of its longterm success."--Jorge Stolfi
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/NoEMail.html

This so called CS professor can't even handle e-mail.


This is just mindblowing.

@StolfiProfessor
Pro Tip!

Don't sign up for every porn site on the internet, you'll get less SPAM that way.

O RLY?

Stop with the bullish bullshit. Some tried in the past with currencies like dogecoin, which is more funner to tip, and nobody gave a single fuck. Mass adoption starts with bitcoin being more safer and easier to use, not with a piece of shite application.

Sorry, bro. I only know how to bring the price up. Ancient Chinese secret

BTC price is negotiated by hackers, drug users, drug dealers, libertarians, anarchists, nerds and eccentric millionaires. What could go wrong? I think it is perfect! 

All the cool kids bailed a while ago, even the trolls

probably the safer option compared to listening to all the trolls in here 

that would leave no place to ChartBuddy post

I hope you guys stopped listening to the morons believing that btc is going to 250, but then again a big red candlestick apparently means buy. 
What could possibly go wrong!

The US Marshal's office just sell Bitcoin when they get it.

If people pay taxes in Bitcoin, then the monetary supply system needs to have Bitcoin as part of the infrastructure, otherwise the IRS will just dump Bitcoin a few months after the end of tax season.

So that's not gonna work in the short-term. Maybe when government contractor's start accepting bitcoin, then you might have a point.

this time for real or someone launched another mooncountdown and I'm not aware of it?

So.... $300 by tomorrow?

Next 80k of Ulbrichts btc auction

kraken is not only euro

That big sell on finex was that. Inside trading... nothing new here. I really really hope we get better exchanges this year.

I try to protect my investment.

80% of this thread are trying to destroy bitcoin through jealousy or to get in cheap

Longs with stop losses if you want so 

I'm perfectly happy to HODL & wait, maybe even up to 20 years.
So many trolls here trying to destroy BTC.
I can't help but think they panic the weak hands & noobs & it has a major effect on the price.

Doubt is the easiest seed to plant ya know?

Nothing trolls could say that's anywhere as damaging as the desperate pimping of the hodlers.

You can ignore threads?! How?

If anything I can see a retest at 209-211, but I don't think the Bears have enough ammo

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=USD&span=24h

Coinbase's 24hr volume less than a third of Stamp and BTCe.  I thought this new US compliant exchange was supposed to save the day by attracting lots of new fiat.   

The herd says dollars = dollars and btc doesn't matter ... even 6 years later ... seriously ... anybody i ever talk to about btc thinks im a fucking crazy person ... that's a hellllllluva looooooot of time for any sort of mass adoption to occur ... but if it ever is valued in the 6 figures well whoopdie fucking do i'm a millionaire for absolutely no reason at all besides i know about this ridiculous thing ... meanwhile the entire global order will have collapsed in order to cause that and a million dollars will be meaningless and we'll all be living in violent anarchy ... btw as soon as i saw the tv ad for applepay the exact words that came to mind were "ohhh fuck this is going to kill bitcoin for sure"

Great..most support has been pulled.. Unless it's a bear trap

That's not a bubble alert. That's a babyboom alert.

did you forget about the 'chinese panic' flash dumps ??

This essentially has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

The equivalent of someone creating random wealth management ponzi and switching "trading performance" for "mining revenues" as a wealth generation/redistribution mechanism.

Of course suckers at the bottom paid the bills for the ones at the top.

No actual Bitcoiner was hurt in this experiment  

Correct that far.  However, an academic (ahem!) in Hong Kong called for tighter regulations on bitcoin.  That by itself does not mean anything, but it is noteworthy that the news arrticle closed with his opinion.  There may be repercussions on exchanges.

And then we have the current dump.  Just a coincidence, or triggered by the mycoin.hk news?

Support/Resisitence
200
150
132

as long as you dont break 215 and 210 (tried and failed) everything else will remain your dream

You must also think the stock market is rigged too.  The truth is investors are smart not stupid.  They reward companies with good earnings and steady growth by buying and bidding the prices up, the bad companies that dont make money or are sketchy has less demand from buyers and thus the price stays low because it must be discounted to find a level the buyers want to get in at, correlating the extra risks.

Apple stock versus GoPro

It is acceptable. What we don't want, is someone throwing his mouse so hard into his screen that it converts to digital energy, travels over the net to the other party, materializes, and hits the other guy in the eye. That's violence, we can't have that!

Depends.  What were you trying to say? 

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Ah, I see.  Sorry for my ignorance, don't know much about Australia, just the usual stuff--Fin de siecle/Vienna Secession, Vienna sausages, Crocodile Dundee, Nazis, Kangaroos--that sort of thing.

Breaking up 220, lets see those 300 again 

DRK ist doing really well

Probably. But climbing the third day in a row.

RSI said SELL yesterday, before two, three, four days.
There is no selling pressure ...

Wall has been touched and is still there. Not a fake one.

Are you insane or just stupid? What good does it do to "sell" exports to people on credit when they default on the credit? How beneficial is it to give your stuff away? A trade surplus just means you're giving more stuff than you're getting. That's BAD not good. A weak currency helps your exporters but hurts you when you have to import the raw materials and energy. It's also terrible for capital formation (savings). There's a name for a condition where everybody works but nobody gets paid. It's called "slavery".

He doesn't sleep. He needs something to pass the time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=183158;sa=statPanel

I am the last to defend germans, but being blamed for everything bad because you're making too much good stuff is pretty weak. Greece needs to build competitive businesses. Italy needs to turn their brilliant "father and son" businesses and national champions towards global export (look at Fiat and several fashion brands). Spain has done a lot of things right but their willfully blind reliance on construction to keep growth up, rather than adjusting to the new economic reality after the new member states arrived in 2003, hurt the economy immensely. Ireland is pretty much back on its feet ( but the irish will always think that they are falling behind). Portugal is more of a problem, they have much of the same problems that Greece has except they haven't been fudging the numbers like Greece. But when the crisis hit, their problems were laid bare. If Germany, Finland, France and The Netherlands can't forgive Greece, then they should try to give a hand to Portugal and stop the contagion there.

Yeah, this forum has been rather slow lately.  We are still in school vacations down here, and, as you know, I only sleep during my own lectures.

Well, according to one of the nazi nutjobs that Wash. DC neocon nutcases put into power there in Ukraine it was the other way around. The Soviets invaded Germany.

Victoria Nuland, the neocon nutcase in charge of scamming those nazis into power worked for Dick Cheney in Dubya´s administration. And of course she fitted right into the collection of warmongering screwballs around Obama. It´s a wonderful 2-part one-party state.

Be a bit more critical about your sources. There is no "pro kiev nazi shit" going on of any significance. Every country has racist nationalists, Russia and Greece as well, The current government in Kiev is run by moderates and liberals backed by part of the former Yanukovich party and part of the left. The ukranian Svoboda has 7 out of 450 seats in the ukranian parliament. Their militant equivalent Right Sector has one member in parliament and got one of their leaders, Muzychko, killed by the police under the current government. Don't underestimate the former KGBs ability to manipulate events and manipulate world opinion. Russia is the country where all the conspiracy theories are true.

They had a problem with a lot of bloggers and intellectuals pointing to the nordic countries and telling people how great society is in these places. And Finland and Sweden are neutral countries outside of NATO so Kreml couldn't convincingly claim that they were evil in that respect.  So Kreml started a campaign against the child protection services of the nordic countries. Likening them to nazi purification programs and telling Russians that they will steal your baby if you visit those countries. And because no russians dare to talk to the child protection services of those countries now, they have a lot of cases where they are completely stuck. So Russia starts accusing these countries of one kidnapping after the other, and since these cases are confidential the nordic child protection services cannot offer specifics. Russia knows this so they know that they then can accuse these countries of intentionally trying to hide their crimes... and so it goes on and on and on.

If you switch out Film Actors Guild with europeans and Kim Jong Il with Putin, this speech shuld be illuminating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs

Sorry if it's a bit much.

Well, those months were obviously a waste. Most of us who are interested in international politics have been keeping an eye on these things for decades, and being critical of your sources is alpha and omega in the internet era. But go ahead, be a Kreml stooge. I am struggling to care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywfzniko4vQ


I thought being a Nazi was somehow related to believing in, and/or promoting a racist fascist ideology? How could I be so wrong? Oh well...

You are presenting unsubstantiated lies as fact. What am I supposed to do? Nod and smile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywfzniko4vQ

I wasn't there. But as far as I can gather Russia attacked Ukraine, people got angry, shit happened. If you think you have figured it all out from that video then good for you. I do know that people were a bit on edge in that region because there were rumors that Russia would try to send provocateurs to Transnistria through there. I don't know why Russia would do that (Transnistria is very pro-russian as it is), but that was the rumor.

Yeez, ok. You have a funny way of "gaining knowledge". You seem so hooked up on reading between the lines that you can't make out what the text actually says. If you look up the parties of the current government on wikipedia you will find what those parties stand for. That is why they were elected and that is what the people want. If some of those politicians are secretly assholes then they will be no different from any other political party in the world. I even showed you a video that showed that the prime ministers salute was an innocent hand gesture and you proceeded to moan on about the text under that same picture I had just proved to be propaganda even when I had asked you several times to be more critical of your sources. Another thing, people say stupid things all the time, you have to look at the whole picture. Yes, there are nazis in Ukraine, of course they run front and center when Russia invades Ukraine. Yes, Yatsenyuks comments about Germany during the second world war is a massive brain fart.

Ukraine was pulled out of one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in the world until then into another. They struggle to paint it black and white. The greatest farming nation in Europe had to suffer a famine that cost between 2.5 and 7.5 million deaths because of soviet policies. And soviet death squads rolled up in trucks to shoot anyone who made any resistance. After this the germans were viewed with different eyes by many ukranians than in other countries. Ironically Ukraine was one the countries that were hardest hit by the german terror, and it didn't make it better that a significant portion of ukranians were collaborators. And after the ukranian independence they have have tended to focus more on their role as victim than their many collaborators. That makes them ignorant in this regard, but not nazis. I hope the new democratic Ukraine will take a harder look at their past, but that is not the most pressing matter today.

I'm curious what books/articles you'd recommend, if there are any.

there's almost no coins available for shorting...
0.1% interest a day for ones that are available

Down $10 though.

Im saying we will jump around a bit then go as we have been lately, down to 200.

220
210

Key level

Big buys on Bitfinex!

sure, 1269$ tonight, its clearly a bulltrap cos news are ultrabearish and pump to even 270 failed hard which means that we're going to retest sub 200$ soon

Yes, it was just shorts closing.

well that was fun. lets do that again: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152597358946795&fref=nf

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there's been 5 blocks in last 15 minutes so probably not

Which user do you keep referring to?

8 hours and 48 mins from now.

Are you kidding?

I can't wait to see what happens next.

i think down 320 snap back and choo Choo as if nothing happened.

600 for xmas

new ath in the summer.

32,000$ a year later.

Well, this is true to an extent: Technically the skills needed to fix these things are limited and as the value of bitcoin rises the value of repairing a miner rises as well. That was the logic I used to not raise prices when it was at $300; the miners were worth "less" therefore I should not charge the same amount in dollars since I'm trying to work the concept of value into bitcoin.

That said when it hit 900 I started decreasing my prices to compensate for the "new normal" instead of $600. I could re-price again at $1200, but at some point the constant re-framing of prices becomes a bit of a pain.

Thus it would be nice for bitcoin to stick at a price for awhile. :-)

C