Security Firm Claims New Leads in Search for Missing Mt Gox Bitcoin



could be a goxcoin pump soon

[...] Margin trading is evil [...]

As a generalisation I would agree with what you say..... in general.... but not in this case... those borrowed funds are not being made available just to help people out... out of the kindness of brokers etc hearts... they know the game... it is their game... and their game is rigged for them to win...   Long term margin trading is hazardous to fish,  and I think detrimental to crypto.

Also I said that it is "in general" evil - not always and in of its self...  but the outcome is almost always the same in the long run... a few do well.. the rest...  get made into sausage

Seriously!  I'm sitting on a 30-year fixed at 3.25%.  I like to just throw that out at dinner parties.  If I had serious money to blow I'd be scooping up properties left and right.

i almost forgot i had them in my sig. i wonder if they are still paying me...

i don't trade with leverage. i only trade on virtex.

a bucket shop... maybe maybe not. wana bet?  

They trade on bitstamp. The owner of the site just sets his own interest rates for using his capital. It's not a bucket shop because sometimes you aren't able to trade due to system limitations, meaning he has no more cash at the exchange to go long or coins on the exchange to short.

whats up with okcoin? trading stopped over there...

joke?

You're not completely wrong but right now, a lot of those properties are standing empty because their former owners got mortgages they couldn't afford. And there are a lot of people in that group. And they all need a place to live. And they are looking to rent.

It's not a bad time to be a landlord.

God does know - and so do I.  Neapolitan comes from the original Greek name of the city Neapolis  

have the shorts increased again?

I believe Jorge has said that he is an Italian native also.  Maybe he forgot his Italian since he has been away...

My parents were Italian, from the Veneto region.  But I was in Nāpuli recently, and I happen to know a bit of Napulitānu, e.g.  http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/misc/PigliateNaPastiglia.txt

I have it from a reliable source that when God created the English language He initially meant to call the city "Neaples", from the Greek, and the things from there "Napolitan", from Italian; but He then switched the spellings around, and does not remember why.

interesting data, in the last few days:

longs are down ~38.4%
shorts are up ~43.7%
price has dropped ~18%

so if longs are down and short are up , who the fuck is buying all the coins?

A little flashback on the altcoin market which seems to be going to shit pretty soon

Well Ripple will dominate the crytoworld soon and you all know it deep inside of you even if you're too dumb to get it yet =D

I just had to quote this and hand out the newbie post of the month award.

I don't know what grappa barricata is but welcome to the conversation newbie!
 

Does it go well with liver and fava beans?

that sounds good.



carefull i almost killed myself once drinking and torlling here.  

If there is a lot of shorting, couldn't there be a whale that has shorted the shit out of it and knows hes safe because hell dump a lot and cause a panic sell to make it plummet again and not only does he clean up with all the short positions, he rebuys coins at half the price he sold them earlier..

is this a possibility? or even a probability?

http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/


wait a min.
"Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development"
isn't that what we want?
we want the world on board,
that in itself will satisfy the " global insurrection against the status quo "

what more do you want? control of the world? ya  cool join the club and buy some bitcoin.

no i get it, they will try to, co-opt bitcoin and "rule it" how they see it.

i dont know who rules bitcoin right now, nor do i care.

point is we all want to.

thats what gives it value.

you can't just move to a new venue, thats admitting defeat and then going to play another game.

also the idea of "co-opting" bitcoin is silly we can all see the code.... and thats all that matters, who cares if USA or CHINA or a group of hackers, holds more, point is everyone can clearly see they played by the rules and won.

Which exchange saw this dump first?

2days price rebound +9.29%

Monero took a head start +20% today...

520$ looks good for the day..! lets see where it will be when I'll wake up tomorrow . expecting just + -15$

In other words, this is NOT a set percentage, but instead based on how much leverage you used....? The lower the leverage ratio, the longer it will be allowed to run before being forced to close; however, if an trader uses a high leverage ratio, then it will be forced to close much sooner (b/c the collateral gets eaten up more quickly)?

most shorts are older that today no?
most of the squeezie ( unless they get scared and one by one cut losses now ) will happen above 600.
doesn't feel like an easy price target... but no one saw that alpaca coming either.

Another thing John can do is to close his position incrementally as the price approaches $575. For example, his plan might be that if the price hits $545, he'll close 1 BTC. That means he would buy 1 BTC at $545 to pay off part of his debt. This will have the effect of raising the margin-call price. This is called stop-loss, correct? (I am not a trader and learning this stuff on the fly)

Thank you.  I feel that I do NOT completely understand what you said, but I see that in this case, John's position will be forced to close at 128.3%... So then the exchange receives 1) 15% of the collateral item or 2) they receive 85% of the collateral item plus 15% additional fee, which means that the exchange receives the whole collateral item?  

It seems that the exchange would receive 2, no?  the reason that I say this is b/c in order to fulfill the short of BTC that John did NOT have, the exchange had to take that loss, no?  That bet had to have been made by the exchange while it was holding John's 3 BTC as collateral, no?

Bitcoinwisdom not working here... omg can't see teh walls

No DDOS. Thats old.

The main server met a network issue, they say.

The more I think about it, the more I cannot find a single modern nightmare problem that Richard Nixon did not have a gigantic hand in. Although I do agree, Churchhill is a huge racist imperialist dick.

Aeron chairs and foosball tables don't come cheap.

all it cost to get bitcoin turning was a pizza.

Just a few drunk beartards. Relax.

[image of dead bear follow]

LTC is walking ahead already.

Not dead, just passed out drunk.

What is that hole in the bids at 20:30? Seems like the bitstamp api didn't return the bids at all at that time...

- api call for the book returned empty bids
- liquidity watching bots triggered market sells

Watching the order books on BFX today, the spread was pretty awful for hours.  It would have cost you $2.70 from the highest bid (not including exchange fees) to buy 1btc.  About $1.70 spread and another buck to gather 1btc from small bids.

What is the strategy if you are doing 100btc or 500btc trades?  In most cases, you are going to lose $2-10 on slippage.  Just sell a few coins at a time as you get close to your exit?  Or only do large trades on big movement?

The Junta let you believe the price goes in a direction... so the price goes the other way.

A little bit of taxidermy would fix that.

Except the 485 coin wall just got eaten.  Better wake up!

It's 3D model... you get it ?

what are the gaps in the chart about? iv never got what thats about?

Bitstamp Up. BTCChina down.

Interesting times ahead!

after 6 confirmations price is gana explode.

because it's a very old post and just a load of fud, why are you posting a link to something from nov 2013??

right so stop posting a link to the FUD, Adam clearly deleted everything to do with it.

$6...70? what.  We're at $517.. Looking at >$150 higher in the orderbook tells nothing about anything.

I heard it was some kinda Ponzi plan.

Almost 10BTC in 30 trades in the meanwhile, causing a pricedrop of 2,50$. Better panic sale now!

Except we been sitting around 504 because of one guy dumping huge earlier and broke 500 support.  The btc market doesn't listen to logic, sadly.  A small minority think Jesse is right; the majority of traders just look at the TA.

May I indulge you to read this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=372346

Lube it up guys, this might be the final crash that is gonna hurt

is crypto done?  

but BTC is the future of play money

Absolutely false on its face.

All trade is by definition positive sum, and a market is merely the aggregation of all trades. This arises because the preferences of individual participants are not monolithic.

The whole anti-TA strain I can understand is very compelling from a sense of misguided skepticism and not wanting to be made a fool, but all of these knee jerk non-criticisms transparently come out of a lack of understanding of what TA even is in the first place.

right I am with you on all of it.. these are certainly parts of the game being played... parts of it.. but as I said.. the game has not finished.. it never does.. in the end I do not think we are going to plunge into world war 3 (at least not just yet) certainly not on purpose anyway

The ISIS situation in my view has got a Saudi element to it, but also a US and UK and also a Russian,Iranian,Syrian, Israeli elements to it too.. who knows what the next move is there... and from whom.

The question who is is-is is not benign, and it quite important...  really who is pulling their strings and what is their end game and where will it stop, and is it part of a bigger game? is this a Matryoshka doll of games? could it be that they are linked and part of a far bigger game? most likely.

My government and the US government and all of the social media networks have been making a point of ramming (ISIS) down my visual oesophagus for quite some time, and arabs in general for the past 25 years...  and there has been move after move..  who know what the next move is?

How scared do any of the players need people to be to achieve their next goals?

Yeah it is all a game...

and I am pretty good on my history...  

tbh I am not sure on the no blood situation though.. desperation is never a good thing, I am not talking nuclear war, but maybe a few unwanted bangs in unwanted places...

and I am not sure that players will just do nothing... especially if the stick/noose they are being jabbed with/lassoed with is big enough/tight enough... desperation is never a good thing

You seem very sure of everything.. and good for you... I personally have never found that works so well, I wish I could share your optimism..

I am afraid though there will be blood...

by that I mean more blood...  (there has been a fair amount of lost souls in the past month alone, that a few months ago were pootling around kiev or amsterdam or KL etc without a care in the world,  lets not forget those poor unexpecting people.. nor for that matter the people in Syria, Iraq, rest of Ukraine etc) the game is not sanitised and is not in (full) control... I wish it were but is bloody isn't.

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

Well hopped on and got .36 BTC at $495.25 on coinbase...... for the sole purpose of popping my cherry to have over 50 BTC now.

Just a heads up ...I always punch the ticket too soon..it will likely fall more...just watch...

anyway got 50 coin now.... managed to squeak (maybe) out of minnow status?

this catching a falling knife stuff is tricky

Searing

It looks that it's all about BTC-e right now...

this Video teach us a simple yet important thing: First Follower: Leadership Lessons from Dancing Guy


Click the image to watch the video




in Bitcoin's case, Hal finney was that brave first follower

Chartbuddy glitch or bit stamp glitch?

do you see them now?

You do realize that falling has been the one voice of reason among a bunch of permabulls here who in concert scream "buy more and hold because loosing money is great and the price will surely go back up"?

Perhaps with the right major crisis the nations will accept the GNU World Order but I don't see that as likely.

Now consider this:

* LTC is traded at $4.855
* The total supply of LTC will be 4 times that of BTC. Thus, the price LTC should be 1/4th of the fair price of a BTC
* 4.855*4 = $19.42

 

And the other 70% of the world?

The protocol gives out ~3600 BTC daily to miners, no matter what bitcoin is doing.

Each miner gets, from that amount, a slice proportional to his hashing power.

Hence every miner will try to get as much hashing power it can, as long its cost is less than what it earns.

Those with the most efficient equipment (or who steal equipment, or steal electricity) can reinvest more and grow faster.

Hence the hashrate will keep increasing nonstop.

So what?

I saw it stagnate at the last reward halving, maybe I did not look far back enough?

I am super irritated by the exchange shenanigans... but negativity aside, I have a fleeting suspicion we will be looking at 500 within the next couple hours... not days. If I called it then I want a cookie.

Why would that be the case? Some miners/groups, I would think, have sources for cheap miners and cheap/free electricity. Don't you think there are miners whose margins can go much lower than this? Maybe I am missing something.

 

Oldbones - new account

razorramon - new account

yep...registered just now...so what?

i registered mainly to spread fear, uncertainty and doubts

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and confirmed!

conclusion:  this year Tesla motors stock so far did better than Bitcoin ... 2 innovations, one is being more embraced than the other, which is really interesting due to the fact that not everyone can afford a Tesla car.

[Suspicious link removed]jj.com/articles/fbi-probes-possible-computer-hacking-incident-at-j-p-morgan-1409168480

So just jumped back into mining, here is a rough breakdown per TH/s:  (my electricity costs ($0.08/kWh)
Cost $2.18 per day; income @ $480/BTC = $8.80. (I.e. I am paid to heat my house this winter.)
So one of 3 things are going to happen next.

The price will fall to or below marginal cost of production.
Or
The hashing rate will increase until infrastructure grows to meet marginal cost of production.
Or
A combination of the above.

So no drop in hash predicted, and if the price drops to my marginal cost we may see old hardware from mining farmers go offline, which will be good for decentralization.

This being the bitcoin price movement tracking and discussion thread, that was my intention, yes.

Russia has gradually escalated the invasion of the Donbass to the point (estimated 3 to 5 thousand uniformed) where the Ukrainian government considers it an outright invasion.  European governments (except for Honnecker Merkel) agree. Europe has a backbone composed of over-cooked pasta, but they do remember Hitler, and the parallels to Putin are pervasive, profound, and indicative. I am wishing that I did not have so much New York travel planned, at this point:  A pre-emptive strike by Putin against the allied west is the likely end of any escalation.  I should acquire an off-shore life insurance policy in case my domestic one should prove unsuited to the circumstances of my death.

All of this, I consider bearish in the short-term, on risk-aversion, and bullish in the long-term on the fundamental technical capability of crypto to provide value storage and liquidity transfer when other systems break down.

im pretty sure that bitcoin doesnt need that lol.
bitcoin would still work with a price of 1$.

anyway true believers are more like this:

well then there were no fake walls and people with ~ 2000btc just got out

You need a better definition of fake.... In other words, even if what you are saying is true (that 90%of transactions are between the same owner) so fucking what?

I mean the traders at the Chinese exchanges.  I suppose that they are still mostly Chinese citizens.

You say that one can deposit CNY into them through Coinbase?  Directly, or indirectly (Coinbase deposits at Bitstamp and arbitragers bring coins from China to sell there)?  The latter would generate volume at Bitstamp, which I don't see happening.  Or do you mean the international branches of Huobi and OKCoin?

Why the fuck is everyone making fun of GABI?

I find myself visiting this forum just to cheer myself up.

So AnonyMint claims a couple of things here:

-Bitcoin was created by the NWO to lure in techno-libertarians/anarchists; soon it will be slammed down by ETFs and other mainstream investment vehicles. There is no evidence of this except what can be assumed and extrapolated from other conspiratorial evidence, which is not without merit but is often... dubious.

-Bitcoin's adoption will slow because it has exhausted its demographics. If innovation continues, it will open up other adoption avenues, right? Not just the basement-dwelling libertarians who surf the internet all day? There seems to be a whole world out there that likes money and might enjoy using a digital ownership protocol.

His first post on this forum was suggesting how Bitcoin could change to reflect his expert analysis of its flaws. I have a hard time taking a doomsdayer with a self-professed IQ of 160 (or something like that) very seriously. I think he takes himself pretty seriously, but I had to unignore him to read his post. I perform with egotistical, self-righteous people all day, on and off the stage, and I cannot abide the narrow "all about me" attitude. It gets old real fast.

Credit Card Breach at Home Depot
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/09/banks-credit-card-breach-at-home-depot/

God dammnit trolls and manipulators! 

Can't you just let Bitcoin take over already so we can stop with all these credit hacks?

Yeah, really.
I doubt you even understand a quarter of his posts -- much better to just keep chanting.

Remember: ego inhibits the exploration of ideas that run contrary to your own.

[...] you should perhaps read Risto's thread more thoroughly (pages 90 to 120 esp) [...]

btc-e is down.   

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/btc-e.com.html

There is also the increasing probability of a major UK/US bank getting hacked or attacked into non-functionality. This could be due to criminal or geo-political reasons. The 'economic' sanctions targeting Russia now include financial transaction network disruption, make no mistake that this an act of economic warfare ... at some point the weak points in Western financial infrastructure (zombie over-leveraged fiat banks) will become the primary targets for retaliation.

Rule #1: If there is money involved, someone is doing it.

I already reserved myself a nice amount ~0.0415 for 30d. Most of the lower offers only have a time range from 2-7 days.

If you short LTC in the short 5's range, after seeing what happened to people after the last crash when they did that... then God save you. Wait until you at least get a 6 handle. Then have fun.

ECB dropped rates

so the euro disaster wont be over for a long time. Expect more buying pressure mid term!

-ECB lowering their interest with 0.05% witch causes panic by Europeans, so they might search for alternatives (Bitcoin, gold etc.)

second leg UP, coming soon?

guys, I am curious about something, I've noticed a huge amount of gambling games (dice games and wheel spining games) the huge amount of these sites suggest that Bitcoiners loves gambling !!?? any of you gamble here ?

bitjack21: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33766.0

everything is going to be alright, dog is leaving for new home tomorrow.

I'm wondering if that's the only way of seeing the problem.  I agree with the above, but...

...the security of conventional banking applications is not the only security layer for the end users of those applications.
Case in point:
If my bank's ATM or webportal gets hax0rd, I don't lose a cent.  If that happens with my Bitcoin wallet/app, I do.

"Black Helicopters Flown By Lizard People" is an entirely different argument.  We're not talking 'bout that stuff now--just mundane shit like security.
*I, for one, welcome our Reptilian Overlords.

484.

Free market is a tautology.  It is not Fairy Godmother.  Free market doesn't magically make good stuff succeed and bad stuff fail.
Unless you believe in the Lizard People, free market is responsible* for every economic system on Earth, including those with central planning, exorbitant taxation and draconian regulations.

TL;DR:  Saying "free market will decide" is saying "whatever will be will be"--NOT interesting.

---

*If only by failing to prevent.

A free market is a market where prices of goods and services are free to find their own level (equilibrium) via forces of supply and demand and without intervention from central planning/government in the form of price fixing, bailouts of failing too big to fail parties,interfering with the suppy and demand chain, creating barriers to entry via various mechanisms,  over regulation, etc  yes it does encourage, no demand,  more personal responsibility from individual and companies alike, which in my view is a good thing... if a company has taken the piss, they should pay the price... and if there is criminal liability pay that price which yes would be via a central planning system, but it is different from a free trade trade system, ie break no laws and trade freely, break laws and expect to have your hands clipped together...... stealing and fraud are still stealing and fraud,

However if an individual was foolhardy enough, or unlucky enough to have not done their due dilligence, or to have all of their eggs in one basket, and they get burned, then they will have learned a lesson, and have to pick themselves up and move on... harsh as it sounds, within a generation peoples behaviour would change and adapt and people would be better off... and technology at the moment is offering up a chance to eliminate some of the "trust" issues and so therefore if there are no trust issues, and there is no intervention needed, then a free competition based, market would be able to operate.

Well sure!  And, unless you think that today's economy is the ideal free market, the free market itself was phased out and replaced by not_free_market, because, in your words, "most efficient survive ... while the ones that were wacky to start with, or became so with time, are allowed to fade out."

Why is this not obvious?

Nazis.
Oh teh edge...

Now explain to me how free_market allowed the violence_market to come about?  Why did our problem-solving free_market ubermensch allow such a travesty to happen?
Is it what you call "best and most efficient"?
Or... Was it a cruel whim of our Mighty Reptilian Overlords?
Finally, does your free market exist today?  Did it ever exist?  Or is it just talk?

480 is being defended by 10,000 spartans commanding 30,000 free greeks!  WOOT! WOOT!

  

Triple bottom!!!!



 

all of your memes are incredible .. KEEP POSTING

What do you guys think about the measures taken by Mario Draghi? (About Euro)

You really think the euro will take on us dollar? rofl. UK's pound is doing much better than the euro or the dollar anyway. Who is coming along in the euro zone in 2015 again? Romania, Lituania & Bulgaria. Wonderful.

[...] It's plain stupid to put in the same monetary basket so many different economies [...]

wasnt there a debate about simply leaving the EU recently?

And believe me italians are pissed with this euro.

Oh, now I get your name.

Italian cuisine is master race cuisine. Italian liquors though are... meh, at best.

There, I said it

sure ^^, i love pasta pizza and mandolinos, the lazy thing is some regular caricature we french have with mediterranean people and their compulsive nap time, sorry, nothing personnal  

Dumping BTC 2 bi DOGE nao!

i could never bring myself to buy into a pump, DOGE is up 100% in about 2 weeks, scary.

Indeed, there seems to be a fundamental dilemma there.  Satoshi solved the problem of secure trustless e-payments, but there is still no solution for the problem of recovering stolen coins without spoiling that primary goal.

Precisely!

One fundamental flaw of  cryptocoins (that supportes consider a feature) is that they are intended to eliminate the notion of "property" for money, and leave only "possession" instead.

[digression about the difference between the concept of 'property' (legal ownership/control?) and 'possession' (de-facto ownership/control?)]

[realization of the central role of governments in permitting/determining ownership/control of 'resources' of their subjects]

[enlightenment about the fact that ownership/control, shared or individual, just exists]

Do we really want to eliminate the concept of "property" with regards to money?
  
(PS. And then there is the misleading use of "possession" instead of "knowledge" when talking about keys; but that is another issue.)

Lol, there is nothing we called free coin, everything has value.
If Bitcoin was free or will be free then there will be no value and
who get free will sell at what rate they will get.

It both buys and sells depending on the market

You are right. However in the long run hashrate/difficulty which is an estimate for the basic production cost per BTC (excluding HW, OC) will approach or even show congruency with the price per BTC. At least that is what Satoshi assumed: "The price of any commodity tends to gravitate toward the production cost. If the price is below cost, then production slows down. If the price is above cost, profit can be made by generating and selling more." Feb. 21, 2010 Satoshi Nakamoto

Miner can't control it but miners can act. By shutting inefficent HW.

I saw in my country that some politician thinking...

I was sooo proud when bitcoinity chose this gif for the 1000$ milestone, i made it !

Anarchy, exemplified by a set of free independent self-governed monkeys:

Apple will announce a mobile payments solution tomorrow.

What's the meaning of this graph, I didn't see it before? Bitcoin days destroyed = 0 ? Can you please give more information about this graph, thanks.

Bitcoin Days Destroyed is a measure of the transaction volume of Bitcoin. If someone has 100 BTC that they received a week ago and they spend it then 700 bitcoin days have been destroyed. If they take those 100BTC and send them to several addresses and then spend them then although the total transaction volume could be arbitrarily large the number of bitcoin days destroyed is still 700

you are right, only bag holders and bull scammers are trying to fool you to buy their bags so they can sell higher and grab your money away
bitcoin itself is going to the final capitulation, lower and lower, cheaper and cheaper

seems like there was way more demand for higher priced coins. weird?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7HxLCFMeY
PayPal featuring Bitcoin in his app, "We can spend Bitcoin with a tap"

Take a look to the video, second 9  

TOO MUCH MANIPULATION!

We should suggest our governments to [abominable things] bitcoin in a hard manner, to prevent Sandia's "Ask & Dump" manipulation and all other forms of manipulations.

Like what ?

They will not move a finger before NY regulation.

it will become law soon enough.

Hey Fellows! Help me here, I want to remember a famous quote of  Nerraw Tteffub or something similar. It begins with "be fearful when...."
 

PayPal news breaks, 435 new shorts open in the last hour.  

Is this fake or real?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774809.msg8730770#msg8730770

From now on the show will be really hardcore - kids better go to bed because serious wall raping will follow...

Great news everybody! Braintree will allow paypal merchants to accept fiat via coinbase who takes bitcoin! Awesome =) That worked out so well for the price with the other merchants. But this is much bigger so whatever we have seen happening to the price so far should accelerate and completely wipe out all bids. Congratulations! Bitcoin made it.

Yeah, what's the difference from newegg adding it? When I buy something using Braintree bitcoin is sold on coinbase, fiat is then sent to Braintree and then finally Braintree sends this money to the merchant. Sounds revolutionary.

Needs a Chinese translation and some reference to PayPal being like AliPay before price goes above $700
....also needs China to wake up.

Maybe this video where you can ear crystal clear bitcoin at least 20 times will fix that

Normally i'm a silent reader but the price swings lately - especially today - made me register for an account.
Are we really going to "da moon" because of today's news? I have been holding coins for the last two months so i would sure hope for a bit of an upswing.
Clearly PayPal is a huge payment processor and them using bitcoins is another big advertisement for bitcoin.
I'm just not sure if braintree/paypal will just act as a gateway to coinbase or what their plan is.
My understanding is that people will be abled to use their paypal account for payments in another "foreign currency", the XBT/BTC/COIN.
In that case people won't have to learn how bitcoin works. In my opinion, bitcoin will go further into the background.
PayPal will buy new coins each time someone buys a product and quickly after that the merchant will dump these coins again.
People won't need to buy coins on their own and fear a fluctuating exchange rate.
While i see the huge advantage for the non-techies, i don't think it will have a huge impact on the price.
Please share your views on this, i'm interested in your opinions.

What I don't quite understand from the video: does this enable their merchants to accept BTC via the blockchain or just coinbaseBTC from coinbase customers?

Looking at Bfx only:  it looks like the only thing keeping the price down is the constant increase in shorts.  Shorts have increased by 4k over the past week (currently 10.2k).  It is also 4k coins to 500.  The last 3 dumps came at the same time as sharp increases in shorts.

As I said in an earlier post, there are not 10k coins available to buy on Bfx.  This may get interesting fast, especially if Bfx can decouple from the wall-fest at Bitstamp for a few hours.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775253.0 Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 satoshin @ gmx.com is compromised

'Buttcoin is a peer-to-peer butt. Peer-to-peer means that no central authority issues new butts or tracks butts. These tasks are managed collectively by the network. It’s like a bitcoin, but with butts instead.'

I thought this was fixed once. Why is it still going on?

walls from 480+ moving down...

where are all the panic sellers?

Kinda. I trade, but I also have a "going down with the ship" position. That's my, let's say, "contribution to the network". I will happily sell the trading position depending on price. The other part is kept offline, not just for safety reasons, but also with the intention of this being a significant financial stake in this experiment even if it eventually turns out it'll fail. So, yeah, guess I'm trying to rationalize here how I'm both motivated by both greed/selfishness and idealism. Not sure if that makes any sense to the outside observer...

People are becoming very hateful and quarrelsome around here. It's no wonder though, many have put the highest of expectations into specific events/news the past few months, only to be disappointed again and again as they learn (and repeatedly forget) that news doesn't mean shit in a market ruled by sentiment.

Do you think this is something that can be fixed (assuming it is something that should be fixed)?

I disagree. You can't win an argument with a troll.

No, because you probably limit yourself to reason and logic, while they do not.

Also I think there is a bit too much anonymity for large players in the market. Currently there is no way to tell if a player is buying/selling his own coins (using different accounts).

Please, do go on.

Yes please elaborate...

Do you mean stop hunting shorts?

where is the ipaycoin ANN ~ huge premine i bet! + newbie dev ? lmfao    ~ ipayyyy >> to the moon

What is that supposed to mean, beyond an attempt to lump all government and/or govt activities into one broad bashing category... You are NOT really saying anything beyond "I hate government,"  which is pretty superficial, if you reflect upon your implied assertion.

How much in shorts are still up at Bitfinex?

what no one told them iFapHarder is going to be GOOOD

Common mistake.  You're seeing the classic Beelzebub formation

More shorts just opened 

Why doesn't bitcoin even go above 500$$??

You bulls have zero money? Just talking on some forum living in your moms basement with 100$?

Why don't you guys buy bitcorns?

lol, thats not crazy, nope, not at all.  


can i leverage BTC's to go long?

i have no fiats....

interesting.

I actually wish i had the slightest clue how to leverage trade, the pages just look like a foreign language to me, I have looked at Bitfinex a few times. Huobi seems to offer 200% leverage but i think they have very small volumes available. OKCoin doesn't seem to let you do anything until you're verified enough, which means verifying with ID ,so i didn't even get to see their page. Earlier articles say OKCoin were going to do 3x leverage, i didn't see anything about 10x.

I clicked to see what you were responding to and it seems to have been deleted.

Then I noticed there were no posts from Faiiiiling, Dump3er, etc.

Have the FUD spammers abandoned us? Maybe they didn't get paid.

Say you do have 1,000 coins to toss around....would you guys recommend bot trading?

damn, another lower high.

we fail to break the downtrend, it seems.

This just turned up on reddit. Really nice idea.

http://www.coinsight.co

i hear its only 2.5

I make that decision monthly when I get my power bill. I have a watt-hr meter tracking energy used by miners. When I get the bill, I calculate the BTC mined over the same period covered by the bill. I calculate the incoming revenue from amount of BTC mined based on it's current value. From that I subtract the electricity cost to determine the profit or loss (old miners are all paid off and have ROI'd). As long as there is a profit I will continue mining. Current cost to mine for me is about $275/BTC. I will shut down if ratio becomes unprofitable due to low BTC value or too high/BTC energy cost.

If the Bank of England publication were to kick off a huge investment (huge for bitcoin, a mere punt for London billionaires & financial firms) - I'm guessing brokers would be called they wouldn't just send ĢXXX,XXX,XXX to bitstamp - so what would be the first indicators, how soon and how sharply would it show in the charts?

They're going to steal my coins that are on a machine running an open source OS, open source wallet, that doesn't have wifi?

OK, how...

Something is going to happen soon, Huobi got a 1k+ bid support, which is very unusual to see such walls close up the order book. bitfinex has the 3k+ sell wall, so there's certainly going to be some action soon, question is which direction does it go?

Haven't we been promised the traders to come back after summer? It's nearly autumn now and I don't see any increase, in fact we're still going down, I suppose... Maybe the real bottom hasn't been reached. We need to meet the long-long-long-term support, I believe.

Interesting, could have some implications for bitcoin adoption by Google:

Rumor: Google Inc To Buy 40% Stake In EBay Inc At $68/Share
http://www.benzinga.com/news/14/09/4846049/rumor-google-inc-to-buy-40-stake-in-ebay-inc-at-68share

That could be the Sylvester Stalone Rambo image of a true american... he he he... another fantasy..

Of course, this is an English language thread, and therefore you should expect to exchange ideas in English - if you are participating in such a thread.

Like I already said in my earlier post, I was merely responding to some ideas that you already expressed in your earlier post, which seemed to be a blanket suggestion to get rid of government, which maybe it would be a good idea for you to refrain from such controversial topics in the event that you are NOT capable of adequately describing your thoughts. 


I do NOT consider describing thoughts as an intellectual conversation, but instead just basic communications.   On the other hand, since you seem to NOT like to be told or advised what to do, then you can do whatever the fuck you want in regards to whether you attempt to engage yourself in potentially controversial topics.

I doubt that your ideas would be better in dutch than they are in English... surely, you would be able to express yourself more eloquently, but that does NOT take away the fact that your earlier statement was way too broad and made a claim without any attempt at supporting such claim.. which seems to be more of a lack of logic rather than a lack of English language skills.  

In any event, I will just accept that you did NOT really mean what you said in your earlier post, and you and I need NOT further pursue this topic... at least, NOT for now.

BTC to the Moon... CCMF!!!

am I seeing correctly a 3,500 BTC ask wall on bitfinex?

What does "melted upwards" mean?

Resuming our conversation about one does not simple buy the whole book.

holy moly shorts are DOWN nearly 50%

i guess the wall coming down was shorts covering.

i guess that means we won't get to see 10K in shorts squeezed into forced liquidation buying up the hole order book and beyond, but, given the rough patch we have been experiencing, it makes sense shorts wouldn't have a very hard time covering.

no way.

why do you think this?

ETF is days away now, i can feeeel it.

I hear ya.
but!
say the shorts that covered was the manipulator ( same manipulator that has been driving down prices, trying to force capitulation ) he just changed teams... and he's a hell of a player.
put that in your pipe and smoke it!

GB: YOU ARE SO FUCKING SPECULATING!!!!!!