All posts made by BTCMILLIONAIRE in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 24433929 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 12, 2017, 04:36:15 AM
I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.

Why ?

I ask with no snark or ill-intention.

Because it is purely and simply Bitcoin. In the form that I believe Satoshi intended. After all, it is Bitcoin largely as he left it, but with the insane centrally-planned production quota on transaction capacity relieved. Being of course a thing that he put in as an acquiescence and in order to stave off a potential problem that no longer exists. And also a thing that was orders of magnitude away from being hit at the time he left. Also for which he explained away a fine removal mechanism. Further, it doesn't suffer from the SegWit atrocity, nor the RBF abomination.

Most germane, it supports the store of value function, and also fulfills the medium of exchange function that Core threw overboard in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish. It simply renders Bitcoin SegWit irrelevant.

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Everything I've witnessed thus far with BCH, is nothing but power-plays by selfish (State) Actors.

Well, I've been looking closely, and I just don't see it that way. I understand that the above is the narrative 'round these parts, but it looks completely false to me.

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It's against everything Satoshi stood for.

In what ways, exactly?



And yes, gentlemand calls it well.



BCH is capable of every use case that Bitcoin Segwit is capable of. Plus many more.

Truth be told, I'm bullish on Bitcoin Segwit too. I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.
bullish? how. BCH will be forked into infinity, and because the user base and the real support is much smaller, it will slowly dissipate -there is no history of BCH, even though it copied bitcoins' years old blockchain.

Bitcoin Cash _is_ Bitcoin. It's history extends unbroken back the the genesis block. It diverged from Core's crazy direction in time to be spared from the largest single change ever made to the protocol.

The market movement would suggest that there is plenty of real support.

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I will rather go down with the bitcoin ship than into bitcash

Seems foolish, but hey - it's your money.

Satoshi definitely did not intend for anyone to run a centralized attack on his vision of a decentralized financial system. Bitcoin Cash is obviously the direct opposite of his vision, which sought to remove power from centralized institutions that abuse their power. Bitcoin Cash stands for corruption, manipulation and deception.

If you believe otherwise you're either confused, out for profits, or a paid shill.

There's nothing positive about deliberately flooding the Core blockchain to slow it down and increase its fees while simultaneously manipulating the Bitcoin Cash price to trigger FOMO buying from greedy traders that don't even know what the fuck they are trading.



2. Post 24434729 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: DaRude on November 12, 2017, 05:13:39 AM
They can pump BCH to sky and above, just keep buying while miners don't sell. But they cannot dump more BTC than they own
Only a matter of time until the sandstorm settles.



3. Post 24434807 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: DaRude on November 12, 2017, 05:16:37 AM
They can pump BCH to sky and above, just keep buying while miners don't sell. But they cannot dump more BTC than they own
Only a matter of time until the sandstorm settles.

Bravo, you get a cookie! Grin
Thank you very much, a team of monkeys over at Bitmain worked really hard on mining that one. Cheesy



4. Post 24435709 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: jimmy_007vn on November 12, 2017, 05:47:03 AM
Imagine if Satoshi comes out, dump all his Bcash to tell the world BTC is the real coins  Grin
If only.



5. Post 24436847 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Heater on November 12, 2017, 06:27:49 AM
Imagine if Satoshi comes out, dump all his Bcash to tell the world BTC is the real coins  Grin
Or we could just get Donald Trump to tweet that the Bitcoin Cash leaders are short and fat.
Don't forget the small hands, one of them is Chinese after all. Roll Eyes



6. Post 24474935 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Lauda on November 12, 2017, 08:31:31 PM
I can speculate that BCH might go down in the near term while simultaneously being a big block supporter.
You can simultaneously pretend to be an expert while being a con artist. Yes, we are well aware of that. Smiley

Don't bother ragnar0k. JBreher will just hand-wave those ramblings of their CEO madman away as unimportant and ignore you.
They need an updated whitepaper,  "A CEO-to-Peer Electronic Cash System".

That sure sounds like Satoshi's vision for "the real" Bitcoin. Roll Eyes



7. Post 24475443 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 12, 2017, 09:15:07 PM
I can speculate that BCH might go down in the near term while simultaneously being a big block supporter.
You can simultaneously pretend to be an expert while being a con artist. Yes, we are well aware of that. Smiley

Don't bother ragnar0k. JBreher will just hand-wave those ramblings of their CEO madman away as unimportant and ignore you.
They need an updated whitepaper,  "A CEO-to-Peer Electronic Cash System".

That sure sounds like Satoshi's vision for "the real" Bitcoin. Roll Eyes

@notgrubles 5 hours ago

#Bcash: Peer-to-Centralized-Payment-Processor-to-KYC/AML-clearing-to-Megalomaniac-CEO-to-Peer Cash

Someone has to think about protecting the children after all.



8. Post 24475578 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 12, 2017, 09:19:18 PM
I can speculate that BCH might go down in the near term while simultaneously being a big block supporter.
You can simultaneously pretend to be an expert while being a con artist. Yes, we are well aware of that. Smiley

Don't bother ragnar0k. JBreher will just hand-wave those ramblings of their CEO madman away as unimportant and ignore you.
They need an updated whitepaper,  "A CEO-to-Peer Electronic Cash System".

That sure sounds like Satoshi's vision for "the real" Bitcoin. Roll Eyes

@notgrubles 5 hours ago

#Bcash: Peer-to-Centralized-Payment-Processor-to-KYC/AML-clearing-to-Megalomaniac-CEO-to-Peer Cash

Someone has to think about protecting the children after all.

http://falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/

protected from the CEO? or his associates perhaps.
Protected from taking too much control of their own lives.



9. Post 24477157 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Hyperjacked on November 12, 2017, 10:02:42 PM
We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
I bring it up every time we have this discussion. Fees should be low enough to be meaningless for the average paycheck-to-paycheck worker bee. It isn't and hasn't been for a while.

And... You hit the nail on the head!!! That's what it's all about
It should be, but it really isn't. Just look at how he dodged the question.



10. Post 24479533 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: alexeft on November 12, 2017, 11:17:26 PM
Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.


As I wrote before, it now seems that not even its creators are mining it!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin
What a complete joke. Wonder how many more attacks they'll manage to troll people with.



11. Post 24480060 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on November 12, 2017, 11:34:56 PM
$5000 is my mental stop-loss. I really hope it holds.
Are they dumping in an attempt to maximize damage? I mean there are probably more subtle methods of cashing out.
Damage, otherwise as you said, there are subtle ways.
Too bad we've had a correction coming anyways.
Unless they manage to dump the price to $1000 they would've failed quite horribly to even be able to claim they've did any damage.

If I wasn't following the whole drama I would just shrug the Bitcoin decline off since it's so ridiculously tiny in comparison to what it has seen in its younger days.



12. Post 24480445 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 12, 2017, 11:52:14 PM

@JihanWu
All Bitcoin Cash fans should be brave to tell the truth to the world and friends, when dragon's den coordinated another social engineering attack

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/929746144372047872

Dafuq is this bullshit! The old switcharoo....You and Verr should see a jail cell in the future, pair of greedy thieving bastards, stole bitcoin brand name... Stole users money. It's coming, you'll pay for what happened this weekend
I just can't stop laughing. How many people actually believe his narrative?



13. Post 24480551 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 12, 2017, 11:56:00 PM

@JihanWu
All Bitcoin Cash fans should be brave to tell the truth to the world and friends, when dragon's den coordinated another social engineering attack

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/929746144372047872

Dafuq is this bullshit! The old switcharoo....You and Verr should see a jail cell in the future, pair of greedy thieving bastards, stole bitcoin brand name... Stole users money. It's coming, you'll pay for what happened this weekend
I just can't stop laughing. How many people actually believe his narrative?

Actual people? Not many I guess.
Is there any realistic chance of them getting prosecuted? I realize that crypto is completely unregulated, but what these people are doing out in the open is quite absurd. Not that it personally affects me in any way, but I sure would love seeing some justice served with a side of rice. Would be a great ending for this story.



14. Post 24480651 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 13, 2017, 12:01:50 AM

@JihanWu
All Bitcoin Cash fans should be brave to tell the truth to the world and friends, when dragon's den coordinated another social engineering attack

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/929746144372047872

Dafuq is this bullshit! The old switcharoo....You and Verr should see a jail cell in the future, pair of greedy thieving bastards, stole bitcoin brand name... Stole users money. It's coming, you'll pay for what happened this weekend
I just can't stop laughing. How many people actually believe his narrative?

Actual people? Not many I guess.
Is there any realistic chance of them getting prosecuted? I realize that crypto is completely unregulated, but what these people are doing out in the open is quite absurd. Not that it personally affects me in any way, but I sure would love seeing some justice served with a side of rice. Would be a great ending for this story.

No need. The ultimate grand victory of Bitcoin over BCH will serve as their painful lesson. It's worse than killing them.
But imagine if they had to observe it out of a cell or in poverty.



15. Post 24480910 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 13, 2017, 12:11:02 AM
OMG, where do I get the Asperger coin?!?!?  HAH!

When you do imma fork it and tell everybody your chain has aids.
You'll have to shoot bigger than that. As far as I'm aware aids isn't really anywhere near as deadly as it used to be anymore, so it kind of lost its punch.



16. Post 24483002 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 13, 2017, 01:45:32 AM

Falkvinge has some 'interesting' ideas on a lot of things .... three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized ... maybe if small block camp had said it was promoting kiddie-sized blocks he would have been okay with it?
Do you think it's too late to rebrand?



17. Post 24483616 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 13, 2017, 01:52:32 AM

Falkvinge has some 'interesting' ideas on a lot of things .... three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized ... maybe if small block camp had said it was promoting kiddie-sized blocks he would have been okay with it?
Do you think it's too late to rebrand?

... as has become abundantly clear since August and over the last weekend, it was never about the blocksize. Rebranding is not going to help, even for the most suggestable of the lost idiots amongst the wanderers from the path. It was always about control.

End. Of. Story.
I was just extending the joke. I fully agree and think it was pretty clear that this was never about the blocksize to begin with. Anyone who didn't realize in August should've realized once Bitmain stopped accepting Bitcoin for its miners.



18. Post 24510065 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on November 13, 2017, 01:15:59 PM
Beecrash be crashing....what a surprise....
Nono, it's just correcting. It's the real Bitcoin after all. Roll Eyes



19. Post 24511240 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Searing on November 13, 2017, 01:35:38 PM
Beecrash be crashing....what a surprise....
Nono, it's just correcting. It's the real Bitcoin after all. Roll Eyes

Shills vanished too. Another surprise.

The whales pushing BCH imho always knew it was not gonna replace BTC. They used it as a point to show they could slow transactions and such with BTC
and again NO WAY WOULD THEY RISK THEIR BTC MILLIONS...while showing they have power and again showing miners have clout..yet...

on the other hand, it was a 'classic NEW altcoin pump and dump' just at a bigger level

Jihan Wu of Bitmain imho, made MILLIONS on this pump and dump

get BCH at under 300 bucks say, take only BCH on your equip site...dump at 2.5k

frigging evil genius

(bitmain: evil as it was meant to be done......MASSIVELY) (tm bitmain)

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meanwhile, in the other fork alternate universe bitcoin gold, BTG is at $289.69 USD.

(I mean, what a kindergarten clusterf*ck) It is like watching 5-year-olds in traffic..someone should stop it...but how w/o getting run over yourself?)


I find it highly entertaining to be honest. Anyone who plays into those games deserves losing money and the whole plot was quite intruiging too.

I have absolutely zero respect for those people as human beings, but that was a beautifully executed heist.

At least the lack of regulation makes it fairly obvious when this kind of shit is going on, which ironically makes it easier to stay safe.



20. Post 24511930 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: becoin on November 13, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Only one last thing: seeing the majority of the hashrate flowing to BCH has been a very hard thing to accept. There are no such thing as loyal miners here. We have to rethink many things.

Of course, there is no such thing as loyal miner. That is exactly how they are supposed to behave. They must act in their own selfish interest and maximize their profits. Switching hash power to BCH can hurt bitcoin temporarily but is killing bcash permanently. BCH fanboys now understand their tragedy. BTC and BCH can't coexist in parallel because BCH doesn't give to users anything that BTC doesn't!

BTC actually has significant advantages over Bitcoin Cash, even if it has higher fees and transaction times, simply because it's the common denominator for literally every altcoin.



21. Post 24512174 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 13, 2017, 02:02:15 PM
The gaslighting and shilling over at /r/btc is really sad.  Feel bad for such weak minds that fell for it.

I won't be surprised when the BCH (fake) price returns to the $300 level again...
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7clsrt/just_traded_in_90_of_my_btc_for_bch/

Beautiful.



22. Post 24512532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: becoin on November 13, 2017, 02:09:53 PM
BTC actually has significant advantages over Bitcoin Cash, even if it has higher fees and transaction times, simply because it's the common denominator for literally every altcoin.

This is one of the least important advantages. The main one is segwit which gives entirely new horizon in addition to what we already had before it..

Pretty sure the fact that there's a $100bn altcoin market would imply that Segwit is going to be the next coming of Jesus. Is that what you are saying?



23. Post 24513454 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: thinair on November 13, 2017, 02:24:46 PM
Yesterday I've bought very cheap bitcoins almost at the bottom. I'll hold them until >$10k. Thank you, Ver and Jihan! Keep up the good work!


Your "bottom" is very likely to be reveresed false ceiling Grin

Bitcoin at $10,000 is only a self-delusion  - the logic is inconsistent.

Bitcoin is all about buy-low sell-high - nothing about buying bitcoin (viz other crypto) for its "especial" value.

You must have bought at lows before you could sell at high - unified string theory?

When you sell high come $10,000, where are the ready pool of "fools" ready to facilitate your profit taking. Bobby Lee, Jihan Woo, ...

This alone means that there is no $10,000 to celebrate this Christmas. Only gloom for those invested in bitcoin above $6000.

Bitcoin has always been sell high buy higher.



24. Post 24516530 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 13, 2017, 03:17:38 PM

can go one better
http://bitcoin3x.org/

oh


my


god
Infuckingdeed



25. Post 24518974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Torque on November 13, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
But... but... guyzzz, some of you traders said we'd fall to $4K?? Guyzzz?!?!?!   Huh
BCH is just taking a short break! Roll Eyes



26. Post 24521685 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: monsanto on November 13, 2017, 04:57:46 PM
Only one last thing: seeing the majority of the hashrate flowing to BCH has been a very hard thing to accept. There are no such thing as loyal miners here. We have to rethink many things.

Of course, there is no such thing as loyal miner. That is exactly how they are supposed to behave. They must act in their own selfish interest and maximize their profits. Switching hash power to BCH can hurt bitcoin temporarily but is killing bcash permanently. BCH fanboys now understand their tragedy. BTC and BCH can't coexist in parallel because BCH doesn't give to users anything that BTC doesn't!

BTC actually has significant advantages over Bitcoin Cash, even if it has higher fees and transaction times, simply because it's the common denominator for literally every altcoin.

Yup, as long as btc controls the important base pairs there ain't really a flippening ever going to happen. Which is ironic given the hatred thrown at alts in some of these parts. It's why eth was never really as close as its market cap was. Things are a little different with bch though since it'd be easier to clone trading pairs on an exchange and offer both.    
I love the potential that alts hold. Sure, there are tons of shitcoins and outright scams. But altcoins will almost certainly replace the stock market one day.



27. Post 24524425 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on November 13, 2017, 05:53:08 PM
I registered at Kraken with all bells and whistles, but since every order takes longer than crypto, i´m gone.
A shame, because i intended them as a cashout portal. Alternatives ?
 (i love bitstamp, but don´t want to rely solely on them)
How long orders take to fill depends on what prices you pick. Don't see how any other exchange would make much of a difference given Kraken's volume.



28. Post 24529516 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: becoin on November 13, 2017, 07:57:45 PM
Yesterday I've bought very cheap bitcoins almost at the bottom. I'll hold them until >$10k. Thank you, Ver and Jihan! Keep up the good work!


Huh Only until 10k.     ?

I'm talking only about Ver's bitcoins I've bought yesterday. I'll be generous and will sell them back to him at $10k.
I'll never sell my bitcoin stash in exchange for dollars or euros. In few years you won't need to do that because everything valuable will have bitcoin price tag.


Even land?



29. Post 24529779 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on November 13, 2017, 08:09:47 PM
You're shocked because you don't understand Bitcoin.
Honey badger doesn't care how many $$$ you transact. It is all about transaction size and weight. What is the fee per byte and per weight unit you've paid?


no i'm shoked because back in the days I used to pay lees in fees, thats all
Back in the days hardly anybody used the blockchain.



30. Post 24530478 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: 600watt on November 13, 2017, 08:26:23 PM

so this is how you justify your malicious work? that people who keep your shitcoin will not get harmed? truth is that many that follow you will lose lots of funds.

disgusting.

Why are you reacting so emotionally?  You have held bitcoin for a long time, and so you would have equal coins on both the Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash chains.  If Bitcoin evolves as peer-to-peer digital cash, with low fees and reliable confirmation, you win; if Bitcoin evolves as digital gold, with high fees and transaction friction, you win too.

I believe in the original vision for Bitcoin as described in the white paper: as a peer-to-peer electronic cash system.  I am working to help shape bitcoin to that vision and will continue to do so.

Could I be wrong?  Sure.  Maybe it actually is good to have $20 fees (soon to be $50) and a network that can only process 3 transactions per seconds (one thousand times less than Visa).  

And that is why I hold both BTC and BCH.  

i react emotionally because YOU play games with my live savings. why the fuck aren´t you creating just another altcoin to realize your great vision? why tamper with bitcoin? if you are not happy with it, leave it. well, you sort of did, but you try to steal as much juice of it as possible, trying to hurt bitcoin as much as possible.

now you expecting me to hug you for it? your game is called hijacking and it is evil.
I very much agree with this. I don't care about the forks.

But the manipulation and attacks are just outright pathetic.



31. Post 24531797 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: P_Shep on November 13, 2017, 09:04:09 PM
I consider the BCH team to be as reprehensible as if they they orchestrated a 51% attack on the bitcoin network.
Sound about right.



32. Post 24533548 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: becoin on November 13, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Yeah, excellent strategy.
Killing animals to eat them works until there are no more animals to kill and suddenly it doesn't work and you die of hunger.
Big blocktard are so funny. LOL

Hmm. Interesting observation. r/K selection theory as applied to Bitcoin.

r == Bitcoin Cash
K == Bitcoin

Interesting idea. Thank you.

Bitcoin Cash == unlimited food and plenty of green grass, just expand blocksize by moving to new pastures, eat as much as you can
Bitcoin == limited food in the ecosystem, you have to enrich it to expand, don't eat more than you can afford
If only the "unlimited food" wasn't under heavy control.



33. Post 24533665 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on November 13, 2017, 09:55:40 PM
I allways imagine, how a newbie comes to this thread (it´s number one in bitcoinland, no ?), and wtf´s himself.
Gentleman and women, why were we here in the first place ?


To take power away from centralized institutions. Seems like BCH (Bitmain/Ver) has forgotten that and only cares about its mining revenue and power games.



34. Post 24535123 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Peter R on November 13, 2017, 10:36:28 PM
Any thoughts on how high the next BCH rally will go?  I'm thinking we might hit 0.8 temporarily, and then crash.  I don't think we'll spike above 1.0 on the next wave.  At this stage, I think anything over 0.4 is a good place to take profits.
That depends solely on how many wash trades will take place during the next "rally".



35. Post 24558784 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Peter R on November 14, 2017, 07:14:15 AM
The paid and bamboozled shills Peter R and jbreher are out in full force, breaking the forum rules as they go (of course). You should wonder which agency is most likely to be funding agents to cause disruption in open source projects (NSA anyone?).

uh oh, jbreher, he's on to us!  

Let's regroup back at NSA head quarters with Rick Falkvinge, Jihan Wu and Roger Ver.

Oh boy, you're a special kind of stupid, Lauda.
Whether or not it's true, it doesn't seem very implausible considering the history of the US.

It is virtually impossible for a government agency to bring down Bitcoin head on, so the only option is a sort of campaign that would disrupt and destroy any and all trust in Bitcoin itself. Seems to be precisely what Bitcoin Cash is trying to accomplish on top of a few people making some extra money.

Wouldn't be the first time the US has been pulling the strings behind some very shady shit.



36. Post 24559089 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: bitserve on November 14, 2017, 10:43:29 AM
aha I tricked you though because 'nodes don't matter', remember.

glad you got some dosh out of this heist.

but I do still feel sorry for the Korean customers who Roger Ver stole from

Never really thought about those "Korean customers"... I mean... If someone buys some crypto that is experiencing such a pump I assume that someone knows what they are doing and the HIGH risk of a subsequent dump coming at any moment, no?

I would like to blame Ver and his gang for ripping off those people.... but I am not so sure that would be completely fair. Maybe he didn't even dump onto them after the peak. Maybe it was us bitcoiners trying to maximize our gains into BTC?

I donno. Anyway Ver can be blamed for MANY other stuff already... trading is just trading.

Not when it's wash trading timed with surgical precision to manipulate the markets.



37. Post 24559722 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: becoin on November 14, 2017, 10:56:38 AM
The boss of shill called Peter_R must be very unhappy. This guy is not fit for the job. Next time someone else must be hired. Peter_R keeps repeating that bitcoin users should do nothing and let the whales decide, He doesn't understand why people get into bitcoins in the first place. With bitcoins YOU decide your own future! YOU don't let banking or corporate whales decide what your money should be!

But Satoshi's vision was to create a decentralize coin that could be controled by a centralized entity given it provides quick transfers! Huh Roll Eyes



38. Post 24562951 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Elwar on November 14, 2017, 11:59:06 AM
I hope no politician can buy bitcoins. So when their currency collapses they die cold and hungry on the streets.



Too much?
Sounds fair to me.



39. Post 24565903 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on November 14, 2017, 12:23:31 PM
FUD?  Who knows.

Tencent reported that Sichuan has issued a notice indicating that all BTC production is ILLEGAL.  Thus all hydro power plants are to cut off electricity supplies or face penalty.

The second image is the supposedly "official document".

As I discussed before, those miners ship their Antminers to KangDing in Sichuan during Spring as the Himalaya melts and water flow downstream into Sichuan for cheap electricity from hydro power.  Miners ship their Antminers back to coal producing region like Inner Mongolia during winter as the Tibetan plateau freezes up and electricity cost doubles.  Just to note that it is almost winter now.

Edit: Just to note that this is actually "Bullish" for BTC as it will effectively kill off those Bitmain mining farms, if true, or at least increase electricity cost significantly.  So that individual miners actually have a chance to mine if profitability allows.

http://8btc.com/data/attachment/forum/201711/14/183317v6w7rmbi1916l95v.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOlnUdhXcAA_Vtk.jpg
Karma much?

Hopefully it is true and not fake news.



40. Post 24566665 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: promomei on November 14, 2017, 01:07:50 PM
crazy days  Cry
bitmain.com only BCH(Bitcoin Cash) payment method is accepted
Not for much longer if the "China banning Bitcoin mining" is real. Fuck Denma Bitmain.



41. Post 24568315 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 14, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
FUD?  Who knows.

Tencent reported that Sichuan has issued a notice indicating that all BTC production is ILLEGAL.  Thus all hydro power plants are to cut off electricity supplies or face penalty.

The second image is the supposedly "official document".

As I discussed before, those miners ship their Antminers to KangDing in Sichuan during Spring as the Himalaya melts and water flow downstream into Sichuan for cheap electricity from hydro power.  Miners ship their Antminers back to coal producing region like Inner Mongolia during winter as the Tibetan plateau freezes up and electricity cost doubles.  Just to note that it is almost winter now.

Edit: Just to note that this is actually "Bullish" for BTC as it will effectively kill off those Bitmain mining farms, if true, or at least increase electricity cost significantly.  So that individual miners actually have a chance to mine if profitability allows.

http://8btc.com/data/attachment/forum/201711/14/183317v6w7rmbi1916l95v.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOlnUdhXcAA_Vtk.jpg
Karma much?

Hopefully it is true and not fake news.

It's true, Chinese mining crackdown incomming. Jihan Wu didn't show up for the mining panel today at ETCsummit, he was 'sick'  Roll Eyes




This makes me very happy. Hopefully it will also be illegal to park Chinese miners outside of China so he'll start running out of fiat for his wash trades.



42. Post 24588109 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: fabiorem on November 14, 2017, 07:42:11 PM
Since Bitcoin jumped to $7800, and now it's back around $6500. Do you guys think it's a good entry point to buy some BTC now? I'm talking about from investing point of view. Trading is a different story I know that.


Leave some fiat prepared for the weekend. It dropped to the 5000's last time.

The floor is actually $6000 but it can drop a bit lower due to the fork war.


The only thing I can think of is tiny people trying to kill themselves with tiny people forks.



43. Post 24593969 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Peter R on November 14, 2017, 09:56:36 PM


Couldn't have said it better myself  Wink  Why risk picking the wrong horse?

Link to Newsweek article:

http://www.ibtimes.com/forks-btc-price-transaction-fees-fast-facts-about-bitcoin-cash-2614550
That's a strategy that only BCash supporters would actually recommend, because they know that their shitcoin has no chance otherwise. Smiley



44. Post 24641035 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 15, 2017, 02:53:09 AM
I don't know about you, but if it is true, I find it quite encouraging: https://cryptocurrencyinvesting.news/adam-back-bitcoin-block-size-increase-in-mid-term-is-possible/

Stick to Core's roadmap, a block size increase will come later if it's needed.

https://i.imgur.com/Ogi2AJb.jpg
This is precisely what made me a believer of Bitcoin. Not the crap that Jihan and Ver are trying to pull with their BTrash.



45. Post 24644123 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: metacoin on November 15, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
I voted for the $6,000 to $6,500   range which surprisingly is the least popular. I think by end-of-year Bitcoin will be above $8k, but this month is super bearish in my circles, rumblings of altcoins and other rumors erode confidence.
Rumbling of altcoins should amplify the upside of the Bitcoin market though. When people finally realize how shitty most altcoins are they will want to withdraw and move into Bitcoin or fiat.



46. Post 24649919 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.27h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on November 15, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
This brings up an interesting tax thought:

If you sell your bitcoin cash for cash then you have to pay the difference between either 0 or the strike price as a profit. This is not unusual and makes sense.

However if you take your bitcoin cash and switch it into bitcoin again what happens? Technically when it split off it reduced the value of bitcoin by its value. Ok, fair enough. But if it had remained bitcoin and bitcoin went up more than bitcoin cash has isn't it technically a capital loss? Or if a gain only the differential between the bitcoin value at the time and now applied to any bitcoins sold after that time that may have been some of the bitcoin cash coins (assuming one is using LIFO, most people want to use FIFO for capital gains thus they would be screwed)?

These are the things I think about while the dryer is running with my pants in it.

Could you expand why most people want to use FIFO instead of LIFO?  I would think LIFO would give you the least amount of capital gains.
There usually are two tax rates. One for <12 month holds and one for >12 month holds. So if you're a holder you may find yourself in situations where you'd rather FIFO over LIFO.

I prefer FIFO myself because I pay no taxes on >12 month crypto holds at all, which makes it possibly to actually diversify into stocks without any cost involved other than losing out on some crypto profits in exchange for safety.



47. Post 24913349 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Don't really follow crypto over the weekend and we're still hitting ATHs. What happened to the real Bitcoin, BCash?



48. Post 24913813 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 20, 2017, 06:12:46 PM
Don't really follow crypto over the weekend and we're still hitting ATHs. What happened to the real Bitcoin, BCash?

The great pretender? Oh, it's still there, adding a little extra value to the coins of those too lazy to dump it.

I'm too lazy to even fork my wallets for BCash.



49. Post 24915632 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: vroom on November 20, 2017, 06:40:23 PM

bitcoin dead?  Huh
Leading Economists agree that Bitcoin is a bubble!



50. Post 24916213 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on November 20, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
they were saying that when it was $10
That's the joke.



51. Post 24916948 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: BitChick on November 20, 2017, 07:12:22 PM

But they will "wisely" advise everyone to buy when the price is $100K+. 
Too bad I won't really have much fiat left when they do.



52. Post 24918379 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 20, 2017, 07:32:51 PM
I should go fish my radio from the river. MSM must be having a proper shit about this.

In the UK there has been nothing for weeks again. I am highly suspicious of the BBC at the moment. They must have a gameplan of some sort.


I have also noticed that major U.S. MSM sites are somewhat radio silent right now on Bitcoin's recent ATHs. They're keeping the public distracted and focused on other nonsense. Highly suspicious.
Pretty sure they are trying to actively influence the crypto markets as well with the timing of their news. Good thing they seem to become less and less effective.



53. Post 24919508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: mike4001 on November 20, 2017, 08:09:42 PM
I am really wondering then this bullish run is over.

Can't grow about 500-1000 USD / month forever ...

Though I would like it to keep going for some time Cheesy

On the other hand: If 2018 is anything like 2017 there will be a couple of more millionairs on the horizon Cheesy
Sure it can. The stock market is several trillions in size, and Bitcoin could become equally big within this century.



54. Post 24919550 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: kurious on November 20, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
New poll needed? We have 10 days to go and the top option is only a smidgen away from being in the bag.
Poll seems fine. Most voted over $8500, which seems to be where we'll end up. Might be the last opportunity to include OVER 9000 in the poll though. Cheesy



55. Post 24919977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: erre on November 20, 2017, 08:15:39 PM
I am really wondering then this bullish run is over.

Can't grow about 500-1000 USD / month forever ...

Though I would like it to keep going for some time Cheesy

On the other hand: If 2018 is anything like 2017 there will be a couple of more millionairs on the horizon Cheesy

The cheapest lambo on the market is 200k usd. This would still not be enough for me to retire (I'm such a poorfag Sad ), but I expect bitcoin to reach this level in the next 3 years and to retire in the next 5 years. In the ling term i aim for alpha centauri, in the medium term i have also some hopes for macaffe's dick, as now bitcoin is doing very good:
https://diegorod.github.io/WillMcAfeeEatHisOwnDick/


I second your hopes for McAfee's dick. And ~5 years for retirement should be more than plausible for just about anyone if the market keeps developing in a similar fashion. Good luck!



56. Post 24924072 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: aso118 on November 20, 2017, 08:42:55 PM
I am really wondering then this bullish run is over.

Can't grow about 500-1000 USD / month forever ...

Though I would like it to keep going for some time Cheesy

On the other hand: If 2018 is anything like 2017 there will be a couple of more millionairs on the horizon Cheesy

That is true. Now I am beginning to dread the fall which will inevitably occur. A lot of weak hands will get shaken out at that time.
I would rather that Bitcoin stabilizes at these levels and then goes up steadily.
The bumpy ride is what makes investing so much fun though, at least for me.



57. Post 24924738 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 20, 2017, 10:36:00 PM
Coming soon...
New details have been posted about CME Group's upcoming bitcoin futures, which – barring any delays from regulators – will start trading on Dec. 11:
https://www.coindesk.com/cmes-bitcoin-futures-likely-start-trading-december-11/

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a really bad feeling about this one... I can't put my finger on it exactly.
They are trading something derived from bitcoin, not bitcoin itself. Which means it's fictional which means fractional reserve.
It might still have an impact on the real market though... Crypto is a massive clown fiesta after all.



58. Post 24925357 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: erre on November 20, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
It's probably a good idea to read about futures to understand how they can affect the underlying commodity. If there is a price difference, people can make a profit by arbitrage. Who knows what the volume will be on CME or whether that volume will be enough to move the bitcoin price.

https://www.investopedia.com/university/futures/
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cash-and-carry-arbitrage.asp

Yes but this will still be people "buying" bitcoin without actually really having any coin, I don't like it
From your perspective there is very little difference from people purchasing Bitcoin or altcoins on an exchange. Do you dislike exchanges as well?



59. Post 24925872 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 20, 2017, 11:06:10 PM
So right this split second if you're on the right markets - Bitcoin + BCH + BTG + BTX = $10,200 ish.
Without all the splits McAfee would almost certainly be eating his dick soon.



60. Post 24926232 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: vortex1878 on November 20, 2017, 11:25:32 PM
So right this split second if you're on the right markets - Bitcoin + BCH + BTG + BTX = $10,200 ish.
Without all the splits McAfee would almost certainly be eating his dick soon.

The other way round.
Spell it out for me like I'm 5 please.



61. Post 24926982 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 20, 2017, 11:42:02 PM
I am really wondering then this bullish run is over.

Can't grow about 500-1000 USD / month forever ...

Though I would like it to keep going for some time Cheesy

On the other hand: If 2018 is anything like 2017 there will be a couple of more millionairs on the horizon Cheesy


There may be quite a few BTC HODLers who are trying to contemplate very important status definitions, such as how much over one million is required in order to be classified as a "multi-millionaire"?  

Is it 2 million or 3 million?  or is it some other number that would cause such "changed classification?"


 We have already had HODLers participating in this thread who have been contemplating very important life matters, such as what price would be needed to say "fuck you?"  

What profound questions we ask here in bitcoinlandia, and in this WO thread, in particular, to the extent that we are not distracted in this thread and in our contemplations by big blocker troll nut jobs and other "bitcoin NOT" wannabes.... hahahahaha   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I've been contemplating how much longer it would take before I could sip any scotch without giving a damn about the price.



62. Post 24927143 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

The most expensive I've seen for purchase were all south of 100k. Read a few articles about >100k auctions, but there's no way for me to really confirm those anyways, so eh.

Wouldn't be surprised if there were ~300k bottles around though, given the rarity of some bottles and the ridiculous lumps of cash that some people have.

At least in ~10-20 years every Bitcoin will get me one of those.



63. Post 24927182 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 20, 2017, 11:58:47 PM
Coming soon...
New details have been posted about CME Group's upcoming bitcoin futures, which – barring any delays from regulators – will start trading on Dec. 11:
https://www.coindesk.com/cmes-bitcoin-futures-likely-start-trading-december-11/

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a really bad feeling about this one... I can't put my finger on it exactly.
They are trading something derived from bitcoin, not bitcoin itself. Which means it's fictional which means fractional reserve.
It might still have an impact on the real market though... Crypto is a massive clown fiesta after all.


CME would not not have any BTC reserve requirements at all?  They can facilitate the complete trading of BTC-related contracts without any kinds of BTC reserves, at all?
I actually haven't confirmed the details about the CME futures, because I don't have any interest in trading them. There probably will be some requirements though, the effects of which will depend on their volume.



64. Post 24931969 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: bones261 on November 21, 2017, 03:19:36 AM
I sold my BTX for some peanuts one day because I was bored.

I got bored with it too, months ago.
I prefer just keeping them and not even bothering with splitting wallets. If I ever actually feel like moving some of my Bitcoins I might consider it, but it seems like a waste of time right now.

The only downside to this is, if there's going to be Bitcoin SSJ4Sanic and 120938123 other versions it might get difficult to split the wallets without compromising the safety of all the alt chains. But what gives.



65. Post 24973821 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Syke on November 21, 2017, 05:28:21 PM
The most expensive I've seen for purchase were all south of 100k. Read a few articles about >100k auctions, but there's no way for me to really confirm those anyways, so eh.

Wouldn't be surprised if there were ~300k bottles around though, given the rarity of some bottles and the ridiculous lumps of cash that some people have.

At least in ~10-20 years every Bitcoin will get me one of those.

Bowmore 1957 is up there: http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20459/lot/84/
I like how the "similar items" are dinosaur fossils.



66. Post 24979501 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: P_Shep on November 21, 2017, 08:01:23 PM
Lol. Great idea.
Done.

Thx for the fake wallet info.

Heres another one:

Bitcoin Wallet Bamboozle: Bitcoin.com Offering Bitcoin Cash Wallet, Calling it “Bitcoin”
http://entrepreneurs-success.com/bitcoin-wallet-bamboozle-bitcoin-com-offering-bitcoin-cash-wallet-calling-bitcoin/


He has gone full retard. Here is his latest tweet -
Thanks to the Streisand effect caused by liars claiming our Bitcoin wallet is deceiving people into using #BitcoinCash  we grew our user base by about 10% in just the last day. Thanks for the pump! https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/bitcoin-com-wallet

There is no mention on bitcoin.com that you are downloading the bcash wallet. It even shows screenshots of a btc wallet.
There is a huge negative rating on the IOS and android store pages and the 10% bump he is getting is people downloading the wallets to give a negative review
He even calls it "our" BCash. Are there people who genuinely support BCash? Seems like such a fiesta.



67. Post 24980775 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on November 21, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
Is catching a knife the same thing as buying one where you are from?
Lol too much for me .I'm out of fiat. I'm from uk
In bitcoin we trust
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?



68. Post 24980980 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: ft73 on November 21, 2017, 08:47:51 PM
Is catching a knife the same thing as buying one where you are from?
Lol too much for me .I'm out of fiat. I'm from uk
In bitcoin we trust
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?

It's dead already.
It's just a matter of spreading the news and it will be worth 0.

 Grin
But all these monkeys keep spreading the moon news faster than the real news! What do? Cheesy

Quote from: Ludwig Von on November 21, 2017, 08:47:19 PM
This must be a fameous U-turn... . ( And good news for his employees)...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/jpmorgan-capitulates-may-help-clients-trade-bitcoin-futures-fee
Doesn't even surprise me. I didn't expect it to happen so soon though.



69. Post 24982413 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 09:10:22 PM
So hey, is super bitcoin an actual thing that someone is making or just a joke?
It's both. It's an actual thing that is a super (unintended) joke.



70. Post 24983462 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: erre on November 21, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?

Bitcoin up to $8153.  Is Bitcoin a bubble?

Bitcoin still  $8153. Is Bitcoin getting stable?
Just when we thought Bitcoin was stable it dumps to $8137. It's a bubble after all.

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on November 21, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?

Bitcoin up to $8153.  Is Bitcoin a bubble?
the entire universe is a bubble
Which one?



71. Post 24983931 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Alright look, I know c137's generally aren't too bright, but the entire multiverse is actually like a whoooole bunch of individual atoms in an ocean. And the ocean is endless. And, well, now you know.
Takes a C137 to know a C137.

Or are you going to actually tell me where that ocean is located?



72. Post 24984031 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 10:03:06 PM
Alright look, I know c137's generally aren't too bright, but the entire multiverse is actually like a whoooole bunch of individual atoms in an ocean. And the ocean is endless. And, well, now you know.
Takes a C137 to know a C137.

Or are you going to actually tell me where that ocean is located?
The multiversal ocean is located literally EVERYWHERE. What, weren't you paying attention or something?
That's about as informative as "God did it all". (Do reference in case I really wasn't paying attention though.)



73. Post 24984192 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
Alright look, I know c137's generally aren't too bright, but the entire multiverse is actually like a whoooole bunch of individual atoms in an ocean. And the ocean is endless. And, well, now you know.
Takes a C137 to know a C137.

Or are you going to actually tell me where that ocean is located?
The multiversal ocean is located literally EVERYWHERE. What, weren't you paying attention or something?
That's about as informative as "God did it all". (Do reference in case I really wasn't paying attention though.)
There is no god! Except when I'm trapped in multiple dimensions at once with a slim chance of survival. But that's temporary.
C137 confirmed. Nobody was trapped in multiple dimensions, it was multiple time lines. And don't even try to pretend that "But that's temporary." was a subtle reference to that!



74. Post 24984513 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 10:14:06 PM
Alright look, I know c137's generally aren't too bright, but the entire multiverse is actually like a whoooole bunch of individual atoms in an ocean. And the ocean is endless. And, well, now you know.
Takes a C137 to know a C137.

Or are you going to actually tell me where that ocean is located?
The multiversal ocean is located literally EVERYWHERE. What, weren't you paying attention or something?
That's about as informative as "God did it all". (Do reference in case I really wasn't paying attention though.)
There is no god! Except when I'm trapped in multiple dimensions at once with a slim chance of survival. But that's temporary.
C137 confirmed. Nobody was trapped in multiple dimensions, it was multiple time lines. And don't even try to pretend that "But that's temporary." was a subtle reference to that!
Multiple timelines are functionally identical to multiple dimensions. There is a reason nobody has gone back in time and shot good old Adolf yet, it wouldn't work. Because it's like a different dimension.
No, the real reason nobody has gone back in time and shot good old Addy yet is because a certain someone went back first to shoot the arriving time traveller.

And multiple timelines can't be functionally identical to multiple dimensions, although they could be similar if we're talking about spatial dimensions within a universe rather than dimensions on which individual universes exist.



75. Post 24984730 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 21, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
Alright look, I know c137's generally aren't too bright, but the entire multiverse is actually like a whoooole bunch of individual atoms in an ocean. And the ocean is endless. And, well, now you know.
Takes a C137 to know a C137.

Or are you going to actually tell me where that ocean is located?
The multiversal ocean is located literally EVERYWHERE. What, weren't you paying attention or something?
That's about as informative as "God did it all". (Do reference in case I really wasn't paying attention though.)
There is no god! Except when I'm trapped in multiple dimensions at once with a slim chance of survival. But that's temporary.
C137 confirmed. Nobody was trapped in multiple dimensions, it was multiple time lines. And don't even try to pretend that "But that's temporary." was a subtle reference to that!
Multiple timelines are functionally identical to multiple dimensions. There is a reason nobody has gone back in time and shot good old Adolf yet, it wouldn't work. Because it's like a different dimension.
No, the real reason nobody has gone back in time and shot good old Addy yet is because a certain someone went back first to shoot the arriving time traveller.

And multiple timelines can't be functionally identical to multiple dimensions, although they could be similar if we're talking about spatial dimensions within a universe rather than dimensions on which individual universes exist.
Actually the real reason is the space-time bureau. Fucking bureaucrats. But, you know, let's just go with your version, whatever.
No, you're actually correct. I completely forgot about the fucking bureaucrats. They fuck literally everything over.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 21, 2017, 10:24:14 PM
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?

Bitcoin up to $8153.  Is Bitcoin a bubble?

Bitcoin still  $8153. Is Bitcoin getting stable?

Bitcoin $8081.  Bitcoin is dead.
I checked 1 minute ago and it was at $8111. It's coming down hard and fast.



76. Post 24985570 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: julian071 on November 21, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
I love how BCH is old news already  Cheesy
What is BCH? Do you mean BCash?



77. Post 25017345 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 22, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
This is today’s article from The Australian (a national newspaper and it is the most bullish thing I have read in the mainstream media.   You can skip most of it but read point 4.




Quote
Why Bitcoin Will Fail

As bitcoin — an alternative global currency — breaks another new record with a serious jump in value this week to cross $US8,300, one of the world’s biggest banks has spelled out why it won’t work.
 
Paris based BNP Paribas has gone beyond the usual arguments about crime, security and tax evasion to pinpoint why bitcoin can’t fulfil the promise at the heart of its success — to offer consumers an alternative means of exchange to banks and currencies as we know them.
 
The French Bank is reacting to the growing acceptance of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies around the world. In Japan, bitcoin has been accepted as “a legitimate method of payment,” while in the US, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange is planning to trade bitcoin futures.
Here’s the main flaws from BNP Paribas:
 
1. It offers no lender of last resort — Every shaky European bank would certainly understand quickly the importance of this function in a currency. If there is a crisis, bitcoin has no well funded regulator to step in and cover losses. BNP says in that scenario consumers would rush to find real cash which could in turn create a run on banks, the biggest nightmare in the financial system.
 
2. Deflation — Though speculators love that there is only a finite number of bitcoins, this means you have the opposite of inflation as a looming problem. With just 16.7 million bitcoins in circulation, the risk of inflation is eliminated but deflation, already an issue in global trade, could cause a range of problems in the future.
3. Unreliable exchange of value — Bitcoin’s wildly fluctuating share price is perfect for traders but hell for consumers if they wish to use it in any significant fashion.
 
4. No profits for central banks — If bitcoin genuinely starts to replace cash as we know it central banks will lose a key source of income called seigniorage, which is the profit they get from printing money. No government will want to subsidise central banks which have lost a revenue source.
 
In short, BNP Paribas infers bitcoin could undermine the global monetary system as we know it. On that basis that bank suggests a global coordinated move to regulate bitcoin is on the cards. In Sydney, AMP chief economist Shane Oliver has also been looking at the issue. Usefully, Oliver says he does not
fully understand bitcoin (who really does?) and though he worries it is a bubble he also says there is every chance the value of bitcoin may keep going up for some time. Intriguingly, Oliver also floats the idea that bitcoin and its cryptocurrency variants may survive — or at least the blockchain technology behind them may survive. But Oliver believes the cryptocurrencies of the future will be official just like the legal tender of notes and coins of today.
Love the butthurt.

A bank run would not be a problem if banks actually had the money they pretend they have.

Deflation is a good thing for normal people, but bad for banks. The Establishment and The People will ever be at odds.

Fuck the banksters.
The last time I used a bank those dipshits tried to increase my interest rate on a student loan without informing me of it.
Then they tried to make it seem like the "better option", even though there was absolutely no benefit from switching the loan over other than a commission to the dumbass at the counter and additional money into the pockets of the bank.
When I destroyed them with the wonders of Mathematics and facts they became very quiet and didn't know how to react. What a fun day.

I wonder how many people they manage to scam with their "nice" attitudes.

So yeah, I hope banks will be obliterated by cryptos.



78. Post 25018922 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 22, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
https://halongmining.com

A new ASIC manufacturer might be on the horizon.
I might be wrong, but I believe there was a new one in Japan as well?



79. Post 25042475 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 22, 2017, 05:29:34 PM
It's 100% scam, the design is similar to S9/S7 he just replaced the sticker and made a fake stat

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/933348194062360577

Au contraire?
This makes me happy.

I assume they accept BTC instead of BCash for their miners?



80. Post 25048264 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: itod on November 22, 2017, 11:55:03 PM
More info from miners front drama: Bitmain starting to sell miners after a long time, coincidence with competition announcement? But with a twist:

Quote
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201711201611548977G3AjqYh0686
1. Only BCH(Bitcoin Cash) payment method is accepted in this batch, please use the exact amount mentioned in your order and complete the payment within one hour. After one hour, the order will expire and your payment may not be detected by the system automatically. Payment must be in BCH. We cannot accept payment in BTC. If you send BTC to the BCH wallet the coins may be lost. If the payment is submitted but the receipt is delayed, we will make your payment "Valid" manually.
They need to make it seem as if BCash was an actual thing after all.



81. Post 25049148 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: afbitcoins on November 23, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
Do they imagine once the rewards run dry these goons will mine txns for free?

There is an interesting idea that whales will become miners and mine their own fees back. In which case whales/miners get free transactions. Unlike those users who aren't miners
Free transactions look different though. They'll still pay for electricity, hardware and maintenance.



82. Post 25050714 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 23, 2017, 01:34:47 AM
Do whales care about fees?  I would have thought they just do a few massive transfers rather than lots of little ones.
Depends on the whale I guess? Some whales love throwing around their money, others are too stingy to splurge on good food.



83. Post 25052433 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 23, 2017, 02:49:06 AM
It's 100% scam, the design is similar to S9/S7 he just replaced the sticker and made a fake stat

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/933348194062360577

Au contraire?

+1 For making Bitcoin mining decentralized.
I've actually been toying with the idea of getting back into mining. I don't really care for it from an economical perspective, but this whole Bitmain/BCash clown fiesta has got me thinking.



84. Post 25109934 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on November 23, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
Maybe tether-magic today is meant for shorting  Grin #theflippening
The only flippening taking place is with my breakfast pancakes. And some stupid money shifting into VerWu's pocket I guess.



85. Post 25110974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 01:30:32 AM
OMG guys...TEH CRASH!!!!

The trolls suddenly appear....

...bitcoin slides....

...and trashcoins pump....

...same as it ever was...

--but then the next day---

Bitcoin starts going back up....

...trashcoins tank....

...and the trolls magically disappear from this thread again.  Roll Eyes
Bitcoin is now at a (threeday) all-time low of less than $8000. It's time to jump the ship guys.



86. Post 25111586 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: babanana on November 24, 2017, 01:46:08 AM
Bitfinex is running out of game play. 30M tether hack is the latest ploy they came up. If you take a step back and look at what bitfinex is doing, you can see the master trader in them. All sorts of mustery, deception, manipulation bred by them to gain advantage.

Who owns this exchange? Such greed.
From a good distance I'm actually fond of what is going on. It's a very intriguing plot.

But overall I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be working out as they intended.

In either case, lovely entertainment as always. There's never a boring minute around Bitcoin.



87. Post 25111983 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 02:00:37 AM
In either case, lovely entertainment as always. There's never a boring minute around Bitcoin.

For those that care to look behind the curtain, Bitcoin has become a sort of The Truman Show. Fabricated drama and FUD, fake worries created, threatening enemies and nemeses erected, all to make sure the orchestrated pumps and dumps continue throughout the years and have "plausible reasons" behind them. Weak hands get played, strong hands get rewarded.

It's become truly comical.
Oh yes, it has indeed. I've always had a hunch that news and media were just a theatre of distraction and going through university has just confirmed that suspicion.

Being right in the middle of the fray with Bitcoin however, does actually reveal the machinery that drives human society on a whole different level.

I'm quite glad that I've never had a habit of believing or concluding anything at any point, irrespective of how conclusive the evidence may seem.



88. Post 25112182 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: dalat on November 24, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
You'll never see below 5k again

But BTrash, the real Bitcoin is way below 5k! Roll Eyes



89. Post 25112702 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 02:27:23 AM
True Story Time:

I was talking to a old buddy of mine the other day who is a loan officer. This is an older gentleman that has been in the business of giving out bank loans, and has been doing so for decades. Months in and out, year after year, he talks to customers about them liquidating assets or other investments as down payment on loans, and has heard them talk of liquidating pretty much every type of investment known: stock, houses, land, cars, gold, silver, collectables, equipment, etc. You name it, he's probably heard it.

But when the words "cryptocurrency" and "Bitcoin" came up in our conversation, I was shocked. He replied "Wait...crypto...currency? What's that? That's a new one on me. Is that like Euros or something?" He had never even heard of it. He had no idea what Bitcoin was. And this is a finance guy working at a lender that routinely reads financial news and such on the internet.

It just made me realize: We have SO far to go still. Such early adopters are we.
I had a similar experience when I talked to my banker back in summer too.

Neither him nor his team had any real clue about what Bitcoin and crypto was about, although they knew that it existed.

After our talk he ended up researching it quite a bit and the next time I met him he was already hooked and extremely excited.



90. Post 25114106 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 24, 2017, 03:23:20 AM
Bitcoin is now at a (threeday) all-time low of less than $8000. It's time to jump the ship guys.

 


This is why I keep returning to this thread.



91. Post 25115311 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: dalat on November 24, 2017, 03:49:32 AM
looks like we are in the right universe. the one where bitcoin goes mental
Am I having a deja vu?

I'm pretty sure I've seen this exact same post just a few days ago at best. C137?



92. Post 25115871 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: True Myth on November 24, 2017, 04:09:09 AM
looks like we are in the right universe. the one where bitcoin goes mental
Am I having a deja vu?

I'm pretty sure I've seen this exact same post just a few days ago at best. C137?

C137 confirmed.  Or maybe we are just a fork of C137... hard to tell with all the forking lately.
And here I thought I was original. Damn forks, taking our jobs.



93. Post 25116301 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 24, 2017, 04:35:05 AM
did everybody know this pump was coming?? Huh

yeah. there was free money on the table. you just walked away. smh
Are you seriously talking to yourself lmao



94. Post 25116470 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 24, 2017, 04:38:24 AM
did everybody know this pump was coming?? Huh

yeah. there was free money on the table. you just walked away. smh
Are you seriously talking to yourself lmao

not seriously. but still
Ah, nothing to worry about in that case.



95. Post 25116811 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 24, 2017, 04:48:14 AM
Ah, nothing to worry about in that case.

I read recently someone's paying 4 grand a day to keep BitcoinClashic alive. it's even being traded privately. that's pretty interesting i guess
They might want to up the pay. Doesn't seem to be going to well for BCash right now based on public opinions. Just another pnd coin right now with no value.



96. Post 25118701 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: RoomBot on November 24, 2017, 05:55:49 AM
True Story Time:

I was talking to a old buddy of mine the other day who is a loan officer. This is an older gentleman that has been in the business of giving out bank loans, and has been doing so for decades. Months in and out, year after year, he talks to customers about them liquidating assets or other investments as down payment on loans, and has heard them talk of liquidating pretty much every type of investment known: stock, houses, land, cars, gold, silver, collectables, equipment, etc. You name it, he's probably heard it.

But when the words "cryptocurrency" and "Bitcoin" came up in our conversation, I was shocked. He replied "Wait...crypto...currency? What's that? That's a new one on me. Is that like Euros or something?" He had never even heard of it. He had no idea what Bitcoin was. And this is a finance guy working at a lender that routinely reads financial news and such on the internet.

It just made me realize: We have SO far to go still. Such early adopters are we.

I cashed out 400 bitcoins to put toward a downpayment on my house. Back in 2012. When the price was $12.

$12 down-payment on your house?  Grin
Yes, now he lives in a $240 mansion. Tongue



97. Post 25123080 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 24, 2017, 07:45:24 AM
True Story Time:

I was talking to a old buddy of mine the other day who is a loan officer. This is an older gentleman that has been in the business of giving out bank loans, and has been doing so for decades. Months in and out, year after year, he talks to customers about them liquidating assets or other investments as down payment on loans, and has heard them talk of liquidating pretty much every type of investment known: stock, houses, land, cars, gold, silver, collectables, equipment, etc. You name it, he's probably heard it.

But when the words "cryptocurrency" and "Bitcoin" came up in our conversation, I was shocked. He replied "Wait...crypto...currency? What's that? That's a new one on me. Is that like Euros or something?" He had never even heard of it. He had no idea what Bitcoin was. And this is a finance guy working at a lender that routinely reads financial news and such on the internet.

It just made me realize: We have SO far to go still. Such early adopters are we.

I cashed out 400 bitcoins to put toward a downpayment on my house. Back in 2012. When the price was $12.

He who can't tell a true story of Laszlo's for himself has never been and could never be considered an early bitcoin adopter.
I think most of us here have a Laszlo story to tell.

But we are here  Wink

I personally bought a $100 amazon gift card for 3 BTC and thought I was smart.
Cheesy

I'm not an early adopter, though this is debatable, as one can argue that all of us are early adopters, even those joining now.

My only story, not nearly as exciting as yours: about a year ago I bought a TREZOR for 0.13 BTC. Now it's got to be one of the most valuable TREZORs in existence, valued today at a whopping 900 € ($1000).
You could make that point for literally anything you buy. Imagine how much your rent was last year in today's BTC price. Roll Eyes



98. Post 25143295 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: fragout on November 24, 2017, 10:06:16 AM
I wonder if this is the last roger/wu pump? . A guy could be making serious coin here if they keep it up. The volume spike at the start of the pump is so obvious. You would get the double whammy of btc dropping while bcash rises. Its just a matter of timing the exit but even if you get it wrong you are just back to break even.

On reflection though, I wonder if this is what they are banking on? . The next time, all they need to do is kick start the pump and the whales will jump on board and feed the pump for them. Easy profit then for them.

On a side note. roger/wu must have a shitload of bcash built up from their mining operations at this stage which they obviously are not selling as they seek to increase the price
Only for as long as people keep playing along. This could change very quickly and leave many with burnt hands.



99. Post 25143624 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Dabs on November 24, 2017, 02:28:01 PM
End of the month episode ... I'll be watching it anyway.
Is there anything wrong with end of the month episodes?



100. Post 25144107 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 02:33:37 PM
On a side note. roger/wu must have a shitload of bcash built up from their mining operations at this stage which they obviously are not selling as they seek to increase the price

Yes... and he collects more every rally. Imagine how he and his cronies can collude together, and with a coordinated effort they can short & dump all those coins like crazy right after they pump to the moon. They make money from their own supporters' misery.
Whoever chooses to support those goons deserves getting it all the way up their Morty.



101. Post 25145644 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 24, 2017, 03:01:00 PM
Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.



I’m not happy because I already sold it all !  It’s ok I still have all my Bgold and it’s coming along nicely. Not even thinking about Bdiamond.  

It has to say something about Bitcoin that on top of its astronomical rising value, a spin off, that was
given away for free,just for holding Bitcoin,can now sell for around $1500 .
(not to mention all the other smaller shitcoins players I wont mention)

And now the latest giveaway, airdrop, fork (wtf ya wanna call it) tokens, coins ,crypto (wtf you wanna call em)
are going for around $400 a pop. Now another two in the wings... (not to be named) WTF??
Its one thing to say this is  getting ridiculous,scam, yada yada, and who wouldnt agree?
But  these things are trading for real money, ferchrissakes! baffling I say..just baffling....
  
Can you imagine what would happen if Joe Public knew (or even believed FTM)
about all this free money sloshing around in the Bitcoin theater?  

Me  neither.....

jayzus, I love my BTCitcoin!!!


welcome to my world >.> now will greed or justice prevail Cool stay chuuned
On an individual level, I'd go with justice. Money is too easy to make to bother with shit like BCash.

But given the flood of clowns on the internet that keep shilling even the most obvious scams, who knows. Probably greed, but it seems like Bitcoin will be the winner regardless in that scenario.



102. Post 25146029 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: GHCoins45 on November 24, 2017, 03:10:28 PM
what's up with the ETH? why this pump?
Why not? It's been well below it's ATH for quite a while. Would be nice if it continued so I could dump some GPUs.



103. Post 25146584 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever
To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.



104. Post 25146681 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 03:22:47 PM
what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever
To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?
Small to mid sized businesses I would guess.



105. Post 25147905 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: Torque on November 24, 2017, 03:37:09 PM
what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever
To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?
Small to mid sized businesses I would guess.

So let's go down this rabbit hole. Reality and truth are buried deep somewhere down there.

How many small businesses? 10? 20?

And for what specific use case? A smart contract that did what exactly? Give example.

And for what benefit would this have outside of the legal system?

Would this smart contract even be legally defensible in court in such case of a dispute? What if there is no legal recourse? Who would take that risk if it wasn't?

And what ROI benefit would there be that would justify buying ETH at $400+ to make this smart contract happen?

People that want to believe the ETH hype really need to walk through a few "theoretical use cases" of ETH smart contracts to even see if any of it makes any sense whatsoever, from a legal perspective, risk perspective, ROI perspective, etc., etc.

And it's not clear that the Ethereum blockchain or its tokens (as ETH traded on the exchanges) is even needed for 'smart contracts' functionality.


It's actually clear that Ethereum is not needed for that type of functionality.

However, creating your own equivalent is something that wouldn't make sense unless you were already a large corporation and had the funds to solve that problem yourself in a more customized and efficient way.

Meanwhile, the main benefit of Ethereum over Bitcoin (as I see it at least for now), is that it allows much simpler and more efficient collection of funds and allocation of tokens.

And while there's probably hundreds of absolute garbage and/or outright scam tokens around on the market right now, the basic principle still applies.

It will probably still take some time, but I can see some serious companies being birthed from the utility side of platforms like Ethereum that would've had a very hard time to even be conceived without those.


As far as the law is concerned, I don't see why a clearly defined contract should not hold in law depending on what the application of it is. But I'm not a lawyer so that's not something that I can even speculate about given how absurd some of the loopholes over there are.



106. Post 25148248 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: vroom on November 24, 2017, 03:49:57 PM
eternal love letter found in a reddit comment, really awesome:

https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000016f615859ca5cb88bb3983777df6f9f5ecbd57261cad454
I bet BCash doesn't get any love letters.



107. Post 25163848 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: RoomBot on November 24, 2017, 09:41:50 PM
Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.



Maybe because greedy, centralized bastards are giving the REAL Bitcoin a bad name & causing massive confusion & FUD.




This. I don't care about money that is generated through such means.

The sooner people stop supporting scams, ponzis and other bullshit, the quicker we can start investing in things that will really move humanity forward.



108. Post 25164484 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 24, 2017, 09:53:33 PM
The sooner people stop supporting scams, ponzis and other bullshit, the quicker we can start investing in things that will really move humanity forward.

You're going to have move them forward despite it because it's never going to change. In fact I'd hazard to guess that it's barely gotten started.

The best thing Bitcoin can do to combat it is to become bleedin' enormous so this schoolyard shite would be like a fly punching a Brontosaurus.

The ridiculous amount of scams in the space that "doesn't need any regulation" is unbelievable. Scam after scam. In the end the chickens may come home to roost.

The market is getting smarter. It’s much much harder to raise money a bullshit ICO than it was 2 months ago. 
While true, it has also made it much more difficult for legitimate projects to raise money.

In the long run we'll reach equilibrium though, and decent projects will get their funding while most of the money grabs will just get laughed at. Hopefully "long run" won't be a decade though.



109. Post 25339260 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 27, 2017, 08:40:16 PM


HA! ... LOL! ... ROFL!... Smiley

I still have mine... I'm too lazy to split my cold storage. But I'm thinking to trade on it when the dust settles and it becomes predictable, just for fun.

But the man seems like a nerdy prick that is very shallow and with low experience at playing life, ethics and wisdom. I would compare him to some Paris Hilton kind of gall / figure. Cheesy Cheesy
A plastic mindless dummy. Smiley


Bcash is really getting under his skin .. Ahole coin seems more appropriate :-D LOLLL
Is he upset because of BCash or because of BTC cracking $10k before BCash got anywhere close?

And why is his BCash business failing if he's such a godsent gift to humanity?



110. Post 25341727 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Are there any people who actually take that guy seriously?



111. Post 25430860 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Where the heck are we headed? And is McAfee still eating his dick?



112. Post 25431379 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Torque on November 29, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Ditto. Dump all your BCH for BTG.

Hell, I may even start mining or buying the stuff (BTG) just so I can see Ver/Wu/CSW/McAfee camp suffer... let's make those Bitcoin Gold boyzz richer than Ver.  Grin

And someone plz fork BCH like 5 or 6 times.... that would be great.
That actually sounds like fun. Hopefully it happens.



113. Post 25432658 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Torque on November 29, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
Starting to feel the same way as I felt back on the MtGox Peak in 2013. The world is mine... Too euphoric. Also seeing too euphoric comments everywhere... Hope this one will not end up like back then...

Yeah... I hate to also be that guy, but it does feel almost exactly the same:

Nov 2013: Bitcoin dips from 800 to 600, then takes off. (First selloff)  Check
Nov 2017: Bitcoin dips from 8000 to 6000, then takes off. (First selloff) Check

Nov 2013: Bitcoin breaks 1000. Euphoria ensues.  Check
Nov 2017: Bitcoin breaks 10000. Euphoria ensues.  Check

Nov 2013: Bitcoin starts jumping 8-10% per day. Check
Nov 2017: Bitcoin starts jumping 8-10% per day. Check

Dec 2013: Bitcoin hits 1150, then majorly crashes. Major FUD bad news that no one anticipated comes out of left field.  Check
Dec 2017: Huh??

Well if history repeats, it's not like anyone didn't know...   Undecided

Crossing my fingers that this time it really is different.
Dec 2017: CME Futures


Another bear market like in 2013/14 would make me very happy though.



114. Post 25434646 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: TwoCorn on November 29, 2017, 01:20:05 PM
Starting to feel the same way as I felt back on the MtGox Peak in 2013. The world is mine... Too euphoric. Also seeing too euphoric comments everywhere... Hope this one will not end up like back then...

Yeah... I hate to also be that guy, but it does feel almost exactly the same:

Nov 2013: Bitcoin dips from 800 to 600, then takes off. (First selloff)  Check
Nov 2017: Bitcoin dips from 8000 to 6000, then takes off. (First selloff) Check

Nov 2013: Bitcoin breaks 1000. Euphoria ensues.  Check
Nov 2017: Bitcoin breaks 10000. Euphoria ensues.  Check

Dec 2013: Bitcoin hits 1150, then majorly crashes. Major FUD bad news that no one anticipated comes out of left field.  Check
Dec 2017: Huh??

Well if history repeats, it's not like anyone didn't know...   Undecided

Crossing my fingers that this time it really is different.

I'm prepared to hodl through another 3-year bear market

Me too



Yes. I'd actually like a chance to get some moar. I don't feel like I got a fair chance in that long tough slog. I had lean years financially and bought what I could. But it wasn't quite enough, if you know what I mean. Not quite greed, but I was convinced we would get here to 10k and beyond. When you know something and can't do anything about it ... grrr
You can pay very close attention and make sure you're ready next time. It's not like Bitcoin is the first asset with exponential growth, and it's certainly not going to be the last one.



115. Post 25478332 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on November 30, 2017, 08:54:11 AM
People in 2013: "Comparing 2013 to 2011 is insane"

Yeah, but this guy is not only saying 2017 is 2013, he is saying that 2021 will be difficult to be 2017.

So basically the bear without the bull - the exact opposite of what you hate - the bull without the bear.

ok, ok, you mix it up again.

I need clear goals:  100,000 USD in 2018.   Basta !
In the meantime, i´ll think about, what to do in early retirement.  Smiley



How about buying more coins? Gonna need the BTCBTC once we start space travelling.



116. Post 25483878 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 30, 2017, 10:47:43 AM
Everything going Tulips would be bad. Full stop.
I don't really see the Tulips in Bitcoin. Tulips were just complete fucking lunacy. Bitcoins are very different and the comparison barely holds as a meme.



117. Post 25484270 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 30, 2017, 11:14:09 AM


For the tulip holders of the time, it must have been really tough keeping those super-expensive tulips healthy... They would have to water them regularly and protect them, and even feed them nutrients. Must have been really stressful for them.


Is crypto dead?  Roll Eyes

Yes, and I like it that way! See reply above. BTC is really just some numbers with rare properties, not something organic and alive, no need to water or feed your coins. A TREZOR does all the work. Just HoDL!
Are you discriminating against silicon based life forms?



118. Post 25485177 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on November 30, 2017, 11:26:46 AM
Grin

If you had to pick one, which one would it be:

1) Hold 3 BTC with the potential it being worth $100.000s or more in years time. You can spend it however you want but you cannot buy more BTC ever.
*snip*

2) 20 Acres of Tulip fields. You can only use it to grow Tulips and sell them on in The Netherlands. Annual profit $25.000 but you don't have to do anything.
*snip*

3) Have Emily Ratajkowski as your wife. Put up with her body and her shit for the rest of your life with no option for divorce, ever.
*snip*



1) 3 BTC
2) Tulip fields
3) Emily Ratajkowski


 Huh
I'd go with 2. $25k annual guaranteed profit is pretty good. It's enough to live frugally and invest >10k a year into literally anything, including Bitcoin.
So regardless of the crypto market, this will be a very easy and carefree life.

The first option has the risk of losing everything and not being able to buy additional Bitcoin seems potentially bad in the offchance event that it becomes the dominant currency.

And the last option? Don't give a shit about whoever that person is, never even heard of her and doesn't look my type.


Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 30, 2017, 11:27:48 AM

For the tulip holders of the time, it must have been really tough keeping those super-expensive tulips healthy... They would have to water them regularly and protect them, and even feed them nutrients. Must have been really stressful for them.


Is crypto dead?  Roll Eyes

Yes, and I like it that way! See reply above. BTC is really just some numbers with rare properties, not something organic and alive, no need to water or feed your coins. A TREZOR does all the work. Just HoDL!
Are you discriminating against silicon based life forms?

I was just about to post a meme of Salma Hayek, but you've already corrected it.
Post it anyways?

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 30, 2017, 11:33:30 AM

1) 3 BTC
2) Tulip fields
3) Emily Ratajkowski


 Huh

Can you unpack option 3 a bit? How could I afford to keep her?
By working your ass off and never hearing the end of it.



119. Post 25485227 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 30, 2017, 11:34:20 AM
1) 3 BTC
2) Tulip fields
3) Emily Ratajkowski


Huh

Easy. #1 because with my 3 BTC I will soon be able to do #2 and #3 (and be left with more than 2 BTC)...
#2 you get to buy 2.5 BTC which is only half a BTC short of #1 in the first year alone, which is just about to end. Going to end up with more Bitcoins with #2, especially if you reinvest.



120. Post 25486571 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 30, 2017, 11:47:43 AM
1) 3 BTC
2) Tulip fields
3) Emily Ratajkowski


Huh

Easy. #1 because with my 3 BTC I will soon be able to do #2 and #3 (and be left with more than 2 BTC)...
#2 you get to buy 2.5 BTC which is only half a BTC short of #1 in the first year alone, which is just about to end. Going to end up with more Bitcoins with #2, especially if you reinvest.

Well, 2017 is out, tulip money will come after you sell them. By that time you will barely be able to buy 1 BTC with that money. The following year it will be 0.1 BTC, the one after that 0.01 BTC, ad infinitum. With option #2 you'll end up with exactly 1.111... BTC, according to my calculations.
2017 is almost out, so we're getting 2.5 BTC in the first year and who knows what in the second year. Keep in mind that the tulip field is also real estate which is bound to have quite some value. Might even want to consider just selling it for more Bitcoin than #1 anytime before or after the first round of profits. Tongue



121. Post 25486915 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: ironhide0991 on November 30, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
Full day without buying bitcoin. Coinbase, get your s*** together already.
 Roll Eyes
Is that why Bitcoin is dying to only ~$10k?



122. Post 25488691 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.29h):

Quote from: Torque on November 30, 2017, 12:28:10 PM

thus, the main question from them...with crypto as a 'backstop' was how will I handle it when it goes Tulips?

alas, they are still not on board, getting any....themselves

progress though....by tulips...they see it dumping to 2-3k, so hey I will take what I can get...not going completely to zero

eventually, fomo, will wear everyone down to getting crypto...especially if ETF's ever come to pass...

Funny how all these finance guys keep thinking that you've bought tulips, and that you've always bought them at some high-ish level in a bubble that's clearly going to pop. They think this no matter when you bought bitcoin.

Like bitcoins are hot potatoes that if you were stupid enough to buy, you need to dump them fast and make profit before your hands get burned.

Then these same guys extol the virtues of having your wealth in the U.S. stock market, which is currently in the most overvalued territory it's ever been in history.

I've never seen anything like this in all my years.
Humanity in a nutshell. I have yet to find any aspect of it which doesn't roughly follow this kind of pattern.



123. Post 25512620 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 30, 2017, 06:01:52 PM
After Finex now Cryptopia.

Another hit for Roger's scam  Cheesy



Is this actually real? I might have discovered a new fetish...



124. Post 25513655 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: EtihadBitcoin on November 30, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
Hold on your shorts boys! Roll Eyes
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/coinbase-loses-bid-to-block-irs-probe-of-bitcoin-gains

All coinbase users are F*'d up.

If you one of those lucky 250,000 new users to their site within the last pump in bitcoin's price then your screwed.
The video on that article... lol

Do people actually eat that shit up or are these two really just that clueless? Granted it was very brief, but their arguments are just completely incoherent to say the least.



125. Post 25514323 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 30, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
All coinbase users that didn't pay taxes on gains after selling their BTC or trading alts are F*'d up.

FTFY.
Or do you have to pay taxes on a yearly base regardless of whether or not you've liquidated your assets in the US?



126. Post 25514718 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 30, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
All coinbase users that didn't pay taxes on gains after selling their BTC or trading alts are F*'d up.
FTFY.
Or do you have to pay taxes on a yearly base regardless of whether or not you've liquidated your assets in the US?

Good question, actually. Don't have an answer for you :| To my understanding, there is only a tax obligation upon any realized profit or loss, but what do I know.
I know that is the case in (at least some parts of) Europe and Canada.

I haven't checked the US in detail yet as most states have far too high capital gains taxes for my taste...

Would appreciate it if somebody could clarify this though, as I've been looking for a new place to move to in the near future and some parts of the US were actually on the list.



127. Post 25515061 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: TERA2 on November 30, 2017, 09:19:30 PM
Are closed altcoin profits in btc a realized gain? That wouldn't be fair because if I hold them indefinitely they will inevitably be worth 0 and uncle Sam isn't going to reimburse me.
If you trade any of your cryptos for crypto, fiat, or even goods, you're creating a taxable event on which you get a tax break in the case of losses and a tax bill in the case of gains. Doesn't really matter if it's Bitcoin, an altcoins or any other asset.

Apparently there are like-kind exchanges in the US which allow tax deferals, but I'm not at all familiar with how those work. If you could just flip BTCs and alts and defer taxes indefinitely that would be a pretty major thing.



128. Post 25515790 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: pera on November 30, 2017, 09:35:57 PM
Are closed altcoin profits in btc a realized gain? That wouldn't be fair because if I hold them indefinitely they will inevitably be worth 0 and uncle Sam isn't going to reimburse me.
If you trade any of your cryptos for crypto, fiat, or even goods, you're creating a taxable event on which you get a tax break in the case of losses [...]

Wait, are you sure about this? so if my commodities depreciate I get to pay less taxes? I'm completely ignorant about US tax law
Keep in mind that I am basically ignorant about the US tax code as well. But generally if you close positions at a loss it's benefitial to you from a tax perspective (tax deducible). You could game that too with a sufficiently diversified portfolio by kicking out your losers and thus keeping more of your (realized) profits. It's not lucrative enough to specifically target shitty investments though.



129. Post 25515833 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: infofront on November 30, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
The law in the US is a bit fucked up, but basically bitcoin is treated like an equity, such as a stock, for tax purposes.

You don't pay taxes until you sell BTC for fiat currency, or trade it for hard assets, like lambos and mansions.
Does that include altcoins as well?

And what would happen if you bought stocks with Bitcoins?



130. Post 25516464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: julian071 on November 30, 2017, 09:56:45 PM
OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.
Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?



131. Post 25517510 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: vortex1878 on November 30, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.
Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

Just come to Thailand and relax.
Are there zero taxes in Thailand or something?

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.



132. Post 25518034 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: julian071 on November 30, 2017, 10:23:59 PM
OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.
Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands
The Netherlands would be simpler for me from a language perspective than Belgium. I also don't mind the liberal stance towards substances to say the least and I already know that there is some good and authentic Japanese cuisine in Amsterdam, which is generally quite rare abroad, so that's a massive bonus for me as I'd prefer not having to fly across the globe to satisfy some food cravings.

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention by the way.


Quote from: Ibian on November 30, 2017, 10:40:54 PM
I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.
I made the terrible mistake of going there any time except in the winter. Do not do this.

Do go about now, however, it's quite nice.
I lived there for a while, and summer is just utterly brutal. Pretty much lived in AC'd environments during that period.



133. Post 25519098 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: julian071 on November 30, 2017, 11:19:14 PM
OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.
Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands
The Netherlands would be simpler for me from a language perspective than Belgium. I also don't mind the liberal stance towards substances to say the least and I already know that there is some good and authentic Japanese cuisine in Amsterdam, which is generally quite rare abroad, so that's a massive bonus for me as I'd prefer not having to fly across the globe to satisfy some food cravings.

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention by the way.


Well if you ever want to be shown around, give me a shout.
Will take you up on that offer if I don't forget about it. Still locked up over here until Q4 2018 though.



134. Post 25521492 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 30, 2017, 09:27:17 PM
Are closed altcoin profits in btc a realized gain? That wouldn't be fair because if I hold them indefinitely they will inevitably be worth 0 and uncle Sam isn't going to reimburse me.
If you trade any of your cryptos for crypto, fiat, or even goods, you're creating a taxable event on which you get a tax break in the case of losses and a tax bill in the case of gains. Doesn't really matter if it's Bitcoin, an altcoins or any other asset.

Apparently there are like-kind exchanges in the US which allow tax deferals, but I'm not at all familiar with how those work. If you could just flip BTCs and alts and defer taxes indefinitely that would be a pretty major thing.


I don't see how moving BTC to another wallet creates a tax event.

Quote from: infofront on November 30, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
The law in the US is a bit fucked up, but basically bitcoin is treated like an equity, such as a stock, for tax purposes.

You don't pay taxes until you sell BTC for fiat currency, or trade it for hard assets, like lambos and mansions.
Moving it to another wallet doesn't, at least not where I live. In the US and in the special case of Coinbase this seems to be a different story though...

Edit: I gave up fixing this posts formatting. The bold is my response.



135. Post 25522310 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 01, 2017, 01:25:11 AM

Needs shorter sentences and more redundancy.



136. Post 25522352 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: smartcomet on December 01, 2017, 01:14:41 AM
Update from our friend, Masterluc: https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Rough Translation: Do you want to ask if this is the end? The Spirits tell me that the end is far away. Test 10k. Pokolbasitsya (?) near this round mark IMHO.



It appears he thinks the short-term bottom is in...and $100K by next year confirmed.

nice analysis.

@BitfuryGeorge
5 Steps of Smart Crypto Investing :
1) Evaluate Your Risk Aversion Level
2) Set Aside 1-10% of your Net Worth
3) Invest in 4-5 Top Protocols (Remember Bitcoin is King)
4) Dont Touch the Account for 5 years
5) Do something good with your profits!
Students and other young folks should really just go all in if they don't mind hustling around for a bit. They've got plenty of time to cover any potential losses anyways and don't earn jackshit which makes worrying about losses kind of moot.



137. Post 25523045 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on December 01, 2017, 01:48:41 AM
Note: I'm still thinking about the stupid BCH airdrop. Is that a taxable event when you claim it, or can you add the value to the basis value of the bitcoin you convert it into then pay the taxes when you cash the bitcoin for fiat or other valuable prizes?

You can´t leave it alone, can you. Smiley
 You all are tax-obsessed. Till now i have Denmark and Amsterdam, but thats all to cold. I prefer to live in a jurisdiction, for now, where they are to lazy to ask me for taxes. I´m complaining all the time about this and that, but thats a big plus here.
They can always come back to you in the future and cause significant trouble though. Especially once it'll be stupidly easy to backtrace Bitcoin transactions, which is only a matter of time for as long as there's no proper shrouding service. I would just outright pay the 1.6% in Amsterdam though, heck, I'd even pay 2% for good measure because I actually do appreciate public property to some extent. Just not to a 20-40% CG kind of extent.



138. Post 25585826 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 02, 2017, 02:24:49 AM
why did i sell all @11K i'm rekt :\ meh
Why would you sell before moon?

Did you buy back at the ~9k discount price at least?



139. Post 25586379 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 02, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
why did i sell all @11K i'm rekt :\ meh
Why would you sell before moon?

Did you buy back at the ~9k discount price at least?

define "moon"
A natural satellite of any planet.



140. Post 25588312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Dabs on December 02, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
What are the confirmed facts of the bitcoin failure? You're talking about the bitcoin, not the vcash or the diamonds and supers and golds, because all of those others are not the bitcoin.
I don't see what your problem is? Bitcoin failed to stop being the real Bitcoin. I thought the facts were pretty clear...



141. Post 25588799 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: savetherainforest on December 02, 2017, 04:21:38 AM
What are the confirmed facts of the bitcoin failure? You're talking about the bitcoin, not the vcash or the diamonds and supers and golds, because all of those others are not the bitcoin.
I don't see what your problem is? Bitcoin failed to stop being the real Bitcoin. I thought the facts were pretty clear...



100% Roger sock puppet... Cheesy Cheesy
Stop calling it BCash Angry Angry Angry



142. Post 25605737 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on December 02, 2017, 11:18:33 AM
The Bitcoin price and the amount of posts in this thread are becoming too much for me.
 Grin

I really can't keep the pace

They (page count and price) will merge, briefly, soon.  Then it'll be only half the work!

100k by end of 2018. we must post more memes and charts to boost the page count

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*kuRDbU9KXhzLxDc-z9gZsQ.gif


This is what it feels like. Lauda will approve
 Wink
Is that a balloon/static on the cat's head? Or what is going on there?



143. Post 25606293 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Icygreen on December 02, 2017, 12:18:01 PM
I think the guys at Bitmain get it. BCH will never take over BTC but I think they are competing with litecoin, for a settlement layer while BTC proves itself as a digital gold.
Too bad Litecoin is superior to BCash.



144. Post 25610726 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 02, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
This might be off-topic but do some of you more experienced guys recommend mining to the average guy who can‘t get more than 10 miners or should we just stick to buying and holding BTC?
I don‘t know what I‘d enjoy more. The noise of S9‘s mining in my apartment or just watching BTC grow.

Recent article may help
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-mining-profitable-beginners-explanation/

I gather it's only about $300 profit per S9 per month and that is probably the best case scenario (heard these machines are not exactly reliable), and it will only drop. So even at 10 S9s you're only looking at $3000 per month. One BTC is growing by more than that at the moment and you don't have to do anything except keep your keys safe.

Personally I wouldn't do it.

If you factor in Bitcoin's price increase you would probably make more than whatever is the current rate, or you would at least hold it. But overall it'd generally still be more profitable to just buy and hodl BTC. Mining is more of a hedge for very large crypto portfolios in my opinion.



145. Post 25610981 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 02, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
This might be off-topic but do some of you more experienced guys recommend mining to the average guy who can‘t get more than 10 miners or should we just stick to buying and holding BTC?
I don‘t know what I‘d enjoy more. The noise of S9‘s mining in my apartment or just watching BTC grow.

Recent article may help
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-mining-profitable-beginners-explanation/

I gather it's only about $300 profit per S9 per month and that is probably the best case scenario (heard these machines are not exactly reliable), and it will only drop. So even at 10 S9s you're only looking at $3000 per month. One BTC is growing by more than that at the moment and you don't have to do anything except keep your keys safe.

Personally I wouldn't do it.

If you factor in Bitcoin's price increase you would probably make more than whatever is the current rate, or you would at least hold it. But overall it'd generally still be more profitable to just buy and hodl BTC. Mining is more of a hedge for very large crypto portfolios in my opinion.

mining rigs would be cool to run in the winter months :-D i see mining as a good way to grab free cornzzz<<<
I have a room filled with miners that is actually quite hot. Pretty sure you could run a sauna on miners in the summer months.

I sleep in it sometimes too because I like lingering inside the noise. They actually help me fall asleep and stop me from waking up randomly.



146. Post 25611606 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Higher Altitude on December 02, 2017, 02:08:09 PM
I sleep in it sometimes too because I like lingering inside the noise. They actually help me fall asleep and stop me from waking up randomly.

You win the Bitcoiner of the month award.

And he deserves it! Such repetitive humming noise can be very meditative. He deserves a peace nobel prize.
Thank you very much. Unfortunately Mathematicians don't get Nobel prizes because Nobel was a little twat who lost his girl to a Mathematician. Tongue



147. Post 25634543 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 02, 2017, 07:27:48 PM
So has anyone here actually treated themselves to anything after passing an arbitrary milestone?
I can't spend on my 1 BTC i want it intact.  When i get money from other things then i'll splash out on some garlic bread because i'm on a power save for my trip to asia Grin


When I made my first Bitcoin $1mCAD, I splurged and bought myself a nice little Gallen-Kreuger bass amp. Cost me about $1.2kCAD.

I bought it with dollars though. There's no way I'm parting with even a single satoshi unnecessarily.

I personally think John Macafee's dick is safe.
Even with his new $1m prediction? $500k seems very reasonable but optimistic. The thing with $1m is that the implied 21 trillion market cap seems a bit high without any major disruption in the blockchain market. If serious firms started raising capital and serious investors started investing through the blockchain I could very easily see those prices justified. But right now there's almost exclusively shitty lending coins and other crap that just abuses the latest successful buzzword. Alternatively we'd need serious adoption by mainstream retailers to satisfy the currency aspect of Bitcoin.



148. Post 25642176 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 03, 2017, 04:35:02 AM
It would be better for me if instead of Bitcoin going to $1,000,000, it simply went back and forth between $10,000 and $11,000 every day on an exact schedule.

I'd like to have a look at that schedule, if you don't mind.
Pretty sure making that schedule public would change it almost immediately.



149. Post 25767880 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 05, 2017, 05:13:21 AM


Hahahahahahaha...


I don't see what is so obvious about shorting  - and seems like some shorters are (unwittingly) preparing to get r3kt....
Inb4 institutional shorters get screwed and tax payers end up bailing them out against their will again.



150. Post 25768011 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 05, 2017, 08:27:40 AM


Hahahahahahaha...


I don't see what is so obvious about shorting  - and seems like some shorters are (unwittingly) preparing to get r3kt....
Inb4 institutional shorters get screwed and tax payers end up bailing them out against their will again.

I’m all for that if it’s us taking their money.
I doubt a lot of people on this forum aren't. Wink



151. Post 25773616 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 05, 2017, 08:53:02 AM
Shame about bgodl. Not exactly a crypto-windfall that one.

It's not doing badly for a free coin... I would never buy it though.

Same with Bcash. I have never (and would never) buy Bcash. If there ever was a hope of me taking this coin seriously, it all died when I read that "Letter from the CEO" nonsense written by that pirate guy...  Roll Eyes
But it was just a prank letter. Roll Eyes



152. Post 25775195 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 05, 2017, 10:35:44 AM
Shame about bgodl. Not exactly a crypto-windfall that one.

It's not doing badly for a free coin... I would never buy it though.

Same with Bcash. I have never (and would never) buy Bcash. If there ever was a hope of me taking this coin seriously, it all died when I read that "Letter from the CEO" nonsense written by that pirate guy...  Roll Eyes
But it was just a prank letter. Roll Eyes

I don't think it was meant as a prank letter...

Or maybe it's my (lack of) sense of humour...
No it was serious. But somebody insisted that it wasn't (I believe in this thread). But maybe I failed to read his sarcasm... lol



153. Post 25777403 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: svdleer on December 05, 2017, 11:03:39 AM


When will it cross the 10,000 € mark (Kraken)? WHEN?

Come on, HBTC, eat that fcuking cobra. Finish her NOW!

Nobody will know, but the walls are thick, think is a psychological line, just like 10K $
Wonder if we'll see another rally right after breaking 10k Euros.



154. Post 25782202 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: milkshock100 on December 05, 2017, 11:59:02 AM
I doubt if we will ever see 11k again.
We are seeing 11k right now?

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 05, 2017, 12:39:58 PM


I'm looking for this wedge to complete today, after a test of the resistance line at 12k. I think it's more likely to break down than up, but you never know.


https://imgur.com/a/rIMtw

I’ve been watching it as well.  It’s the $12,000 question.  I will predict a small upward break with reset back down to under $12k.  We will see who is right !
I'm not so sure about a downward trend if we break 10k Euros. Could either be the profit taking phase or just keep going since that would already be getting quite close to $15k.



155. Post 25785087 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Torque on December 05, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
I believe the correct term is rant since it was a rather humourless and somewhat condescending, thinly-veiled letter of reprimand for BCash detractors.

Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there. And I believe that he wrote it as a quite serious, passionate diatribe. It was full of narcissistic hubris and swagger in support of BCash and it's supposed principles. The same kind of crap we hear from Ver and Wright. But it inadvertently showed how much centralized control and influence over BCash and its supporters that they want to enact. Like a fkn cult or something.

It's only when the whole thing backfired and their camp received backlash and derision, that they started walking it back as some sort of "joke" or "prank" or some attempt at satire.

Rick is one of those political figures that deep down might mean well, but has now become so egotistical and full of himself that he truly believes that everything that he writes is awesome and that people are moved by his amazing, eloquent prose. Which is neither amazing nor eloquent.

Your post on the other hand... I love the way you use language. no homo



156. Post 25785182 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Torque on December 05, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
Good article about the coming futures market:

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-futures-make-way-new-kind-whale/



'good' is the new doubleplus ungood?
they won't get very far shorting bitcoin

Notice how the MSM wants to take every possible piece good news for Bitcoin and turn it into a negative?

Every. Single. Time.

Just wait guys, next year the launching of Bitcoin ETFs will also be "bad for Bitcoin" too.

Got to keep Average Joes far far away from Bitcoin. Or at least for another 10-20 years.  Wink
If they really stay away for another 10-20 years some people on here will end up so filthy rich that they could just outright buy a country.



157. Post 25785370 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Torque on December 05, 2017, 01:34:38 PM
Which is neither amazing nor eloquent.


Your post on the other hand... I love the way you use language. no homo

I know, right? I suck at writing. Won't even try to hide that.  Grin
I actually quite enjoyed the contrast between "adult" and "dankmeme111!!" language. Usually only get to see an extreme of either.



158. Post 25786570 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2017, 01:44:49 PM
I swear my bladder is an ATH indicator.

It always wakes me up just in time for another leg up.

Go Bitcoin go.

I've gotta go back to bed. I don't keep farmer's hours.
Would you be willing to insert some sort of contraption that alerts us of your next discharge into your body?



159. Post 25787056 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 05, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

Entirely our plans too. And just had the good news : 0 Tax on our gains in Be. (For as long as the greedy gov do not change their mind).
I'm still contemplating what the best move tax wise is. But I don't think I'll ever go "all out" of crypto, no matter how much I end up having. There are a few absurd goals that I would consider tackling if I had upwards of 100m.

But in the meantime a fully self-sufficient mansion with lots of land for random animals that get to do whatever the fuck they want in exchange for milk and some eggs seems pretty good. Hopefully lab-grown meat will be within reach soon too, then I could add my own lab into my mansion as well and not have to worry about anything other than internet access from some third party.



160. Post 25788101 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 05, 2017, 02:13:29 PM
I expect that if he does not pay or start to pay those of us that lost the most (and everyone else) within a few months we will get together, pool our resourses and go after him.

I say hell with the 'few months'. If a shovel ready initiative is floated, I'm likely to jump on board.

At this point, I might be molliified by an actual open audit by a capable trustworthy party into his operation. As I posted elsewhere, I am still open to the possibility that BST was at least initially a good-faith business attempt. I can live with a failed biz. But all anyone has heard from him since is a lot of self-serving passive-aggressive bullshit -- at least heard publicly. A person in his claimed position (i.e. failed biz) should be bending over backwards to provide his creditors with information.

But if this was a scam from the outset, I would expect that any initiative in which I was involved would prosecute him to the extent that any other felon who stole x USD worth of private property would.

Jbear jbreher, when will you learn

'Twas an expensive lesson indeed. Over 1300 BTC principal, over 4000 if 'profits' are included. And it wasn't the last. Lost another big chunk in the GLBSE implosion. Fortunately, by the time of the (last) Goxxing, I had wised up some. Only lost $16 USD in that fiasco. And nothing since.

Good thing I didn't have all my eggs in one basket, hunh?

Though I am a bit puzzled as to what you expect me to 'learn' in regards to the above. Shavers has been convicted. And while it took longer than I feel is truly justice, the remainder of his life will be damaged due to the consequences of his actions.

So what is the lesson I am supposed to learn, smartypants?
What actually happened to Shavers? I'd imagine that even if he got a prison sentence he'd still have a fuckton of money stashed away somewhere.



161. Post 25799138 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 05, 2017, 05:09:01 PM
Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

What a bunch of BS that letter. It's a page longer than Nakamoto's original Bitcoin white paper.

So this guy is the CEO central authority of what is supposed be a decentralised fork of what is definitely a decentralised digital currency?   Huh

And how exactly is he expecting not to be shat on?
The same way the social justice movement actually has momentum. Humans are fucking apes.



162. Post 25799688 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 05, 2017, 05:26:49 PM
Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

Haha Torque. You funny. You've been literally telling me to 'shut up' for - what? - a year now? How's that working out for ya?

Like I said - delusional.

Still no proof of me being wrong. Just a lame comeback and a hand wave.

What exactly am I supposed to prove, in your estimation? You are the one making the claim that Falkvinge got marching orders from some other power in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem. Who rendered these marching orders? When were they issued? What is your proof? The proof is impingent upon the claimant. OTOH, it is widely recognized that proving a negative is possible only in corner cases.

As I said, delusional.

Quote
Hey, is [Bitcoin Cash] set to trade futures yet?

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

Actually, we won't know what effect the trading of such derivatives have upon the base asset until such trading is actually underway. Like I said, delusional.

Quote
How's that lack of interest working out for ya?

Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Cheers!
Above BTC returns isn't difficult to achieve for a low volume shitcoin, especially with wash trading, market manipulation and direct attacks. We all know how sustainable that approach is though.



163. Post 25805216 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on December 05, 2017, 06:55:00 PM
In the meantime jp morgan says btc is the new gold. That was unexpected...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jpmorgan-switches-tact-backs-bitcoin-as-new-gold

Was it really? Or do you mean it was unexpected that they'd flip around so quickly?



164. Post 25805423 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 05, 2017, 07:15:44 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
Maybe he has a large leverage on Euro trades. Roll Eyes



165. Post 25806241 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
Maybe he has a large leverage on Euro trades. Roll Eyes

Sorry, typo. Fixed.

Still groggy, should have got a coffee into me before posting.
_____

I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?
I certainly do. Now it's just a question of leaving it behind.



166. Post 25807111 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 05, 2017, 07:49:47 PM
Do we consider this landmark reached?
I certainly do. Now it's just a question of leaving it behind.

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

Seems it's still open for debate.

One thing's for sure... we Canadians can celebrate reaching the $15kCAD milestone.

Coffee's tasting mighty good, working too. I't's far too early for booze for me but maybe by the time it passes 10kEUR, I'll be ready to offer you a toast as we celebrate our milestones.

Cheers.
It's just about booze time for me. So I'll toast to your $15k for you.

Also, I've always found it curious that coffee actually worked for people. To me it's just a delicious beverage that sometimes puts me to sleep.



167. Post 25807241 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 05, 2017, 07:51:34 PM
I'm operating under the assumption they will be very careful to run it up to totally unsustainable levels before any kind of big short. But I have no idea what sustainable levels look like. But I imagine someone a lot smarter than me has done the maths. Maybe.
Completely unsustainable levels would be very well above ten trillion. And by then shorting into oblivion would probably be quite difficult. So they'd have to move before and risk failing/missing out.



168. Post 25807353 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 05, 2017, 07:54:06 PM
I'm wondering what effect it'll have on alt markets. I can imagine many a trader wants nothing to do with BTC if it becomes boring and controlled by US exchanges and stick with shit.

They want to pump and dump like the old days.
Once we see serious companies using alts as utilities (especially in combination with decentralized exchanges) they'll be just fine. Even with pump and dumps the ("serious") coins would have fairly predictable valuations. I'm actually looking forward to that more than to P&Ds, although the insane profits are quite nice. Got another great Christmas coming up.



169. Post 25808164 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 05, 2017, 08:12:39 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear?



170. Post 25811299 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 05, 2017, 08:19:51 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear?

Said who? You need to quit stereotyping people animals. If you don't it'll turn you into a social pariah someday.
Your bench selfie. Or are you one of those genderfluid unicorns? Tongue



171. Post 25812743 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 05, 2017, 09:50:52 PM
Guys, just hanging at these levels is freaking amazing.

When we broke up out of the year long log channel it could have been a blow off spike...but it's not.

Sure, it will go up and down...but 11K is a reality now.  We have been up here for 3 days, and the volatility isn't even that bad, just slowly melting up.
3 days? It felt like two weeks to me. Damn I have no sense for time.



172. Post 25813859 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: Higher Altitude on December 05, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
Guys, just hanging at these levels is freaking amazing.

When we broke up out of the year long log channel it could have been a blow off spike...but it's not.

Sure, it will go up and down...but 11K is a reality now.  We have been up here for 3 days, and the volatility isn't even that bad, just slowly melting up.
3 days? It felt like two weeks to me. Damn I have no sense for time.

Time dilation happens when you are traveling at the speed of Bitcoin Cheesy
Does time even exist anymore? Bitcoin is faster than light!



173. Post 25814244 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.30h):

Quote from: arklan on December 05, 2017, 09:57:36 PM
No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah


You saying that because you don't have enough bitcoins or because you don't want to draw attention to yourself?


By the way, we all gonna be fucked if prices reach $111k, so better have enough coins.

I mean, we gonna be so fucked in the head from RICHes that we gonna have some difficulties figuring out spending, diversification, security.. and some fucking ass new standards that are out of our regular comfort zone... so gotta kind of tentatively start planning, so we not be so shocked...

currently, i'd have... uh... about 1k USD if the price went to 111k. by all means, let the price climb... just, slowly, ok? let me trade and accumulate a bit.

i swear, an illegal loan shark is looking more and more tempting these days...
What kind of interest do they charge? lol



174. Post 25847416 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on December 06, 2017, 11:35:57 AM
The weal bitcoin bcash is going the wong way. woger yu told me moon

What should worry us is where it is going once BTC crashes

I doubt many of "us" (here at least) would care.

If there is massive FUD in BTC I doubt BCash remains over $1000.

Well, we are parabolic, so won't need FUD. Maybe this time we are in an S curve but not sure.
Assume we go down to 4-5k and lots of the parabolic money move to BCH as a safe heaven, then it won't be hard to catch BTC anymore
There are much better coins to move into as a "safe haven" when BTC corrects than BCash. Why even risk it?



175. Post 25858759 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Paashaas on December 06, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
Enjoy the road to $100.00 and beyond Bitcoin pioneers!


I would love $100 Bitcoins. Do you have some?


Quote from: yefi on December 06, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Cobwebbed, complacent conformists living in the past, believing that the old order can be maintained while the Bastille burns.

And the irony of these pompous figures lecturing us on bubbles when they were the ones found asleep at the post during 2007...
Great way to describe the current paradigm.



176. Post 25862676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: vroom on December 06, 2017, 04:15:12 PM
roller coaster guy is so underrepresented in this thread


What rollercoaster? It's going up like this: |



177. Post 25863430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: vroom on December 06, 2017, 04:43:58 PM
roller coaster guy is so underrepresented in this thread


What rollercoaster? It's going up like this: |



better?

there is also this site: https://rollercoasterguy.github.io/
Now that looks more like it.



178. Post 25863983 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Searing on December 06, 2017, 04:54:51 PM



https://i.imgur.com/ZZKMyDb.jpg









This moon shot stuff is all fine and everything....

but the acceleration is getting to me....the screaming engines...the shaking....

the manic laughter of the other BTC folk on this rocket...(jeez, don't you all bathe?)

fun but stressful...so much moon....trying not to wimp out!

(looks for NASA logo barf bag...where is it ..damn it!)

Not sure I have the balls for this 1k a day stuff....might lose my mind if it is 20k by the end of the month...

(he's dead...what's with the large grin? .....BTC Exciteditis Syndrome....extreme case...his BTC ship came in....his mind snapped ..no place to dock!



The acceleration is what makes this so damn much fun. It's very rare that you get to be part of a peaceful revolution for the better, all while being in such an intense environment and while having every chance in the world to make more money than 99.9% of the planet.



179. Post 25864262 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Searing on December 06, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
This moon shot stuff is all fine and everything....

but the acceleration is getting to me....the screaming engines...the shaking....

the manic laughter of the other BTC folk on this rocket...(jeez, don't you all bathe?)

fun but stressful...so much moon....trying not to wimp out!

(looks for NASA logo barf bag...where is it ..damn it!)

Not sure I have the balls for this 1k a day stuff....might lose my mind if it is 20k by the end of the month...

(he's dead...what's with the large grin? .....BTC Exciteditis Syndrome....extreme case...his BTC ship came in....his mind snapped ..no place to dock!



The acceleration is what makes this so damn much fun. It's very rare that you get to be part of a peaceful revolution for the better, all while being in such an intense environment and while having every chance in the world to make more money than 99.9% of the planet.

Save yourself...it is too late for me! Ack!

https://i.imgflip.com/ihebz.jpg


I will live and die with Bitcoin. Cool



180. Post 25865097 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 06, 2017, 05:18:13 PM
Well I bought my first ever coin for 120 then the price promptly crashed. Sad
Now it's 'worth' 100x that at 12k, but that's the steepest of discounts, because it's actually going to be worth 100x that at 1.2mil before long, and not one penny less. Tongue
Funny you'd say that, I was going to predict 1,199,999.99 USD.



181. Post 25865933 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 06, 2017, 05:24:13 PM
I dig the $400k prediction. Seems legit  Grin
Too low for McAfee's dick.



182. Post 25868323 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 06, 2017, 05:42:23 PM
I dig the $400k prediction. Seems legit  Grin

crazy hearing it from a grey haired white guy in a suit...on a Bloomberg soundstage...with a crawl underneath...all the other white guys nodding
It's quite insane how drastically the tone has changed in such a short time.



183. Post 25869163 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Paashaas on December 06, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
Cross-implementation Lightning payment on Bitcoin's mainnet Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73Gz3Tvx3k
Please do excuse me while I change my undergarments.



184. Post 25876977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: AlexGR on December 06, 2017, 09:03:48 PM
$13.099 in bitfinex which is the lowest price in all the exchanges. Wake me up tomorrow at $15k please  Grin

Korea knocking the 16k door right now Tongue

#   Source   Pair   Volume (24h)   Price   Volume (%)   Updated
1   Bithumb   BTC/KRW   $1,015,460,000   $15,945.10   9.18%   Recently
2   Bitfinex   BTC/USD   $938,115,000   $13,083.00   8.48%   Recently
3   GDAX   BTC/USD   $539,415,000   $13,427.20   4.88%   Recently
4   Binance   IOTA/BTC   $389,423,000   $12,683.40   3.52%   Recently
5   Bitfinex   MIOTA/BTC   $321,600,000   $12,919.80   2.91%   Recently
6   Bittrex   EMC2/BTC   $319,748,000   $12,997.20   2.89%   Recently
7   bitFlyer   BTC/JPY   $302,846,000   $13,327.10   2.74%   Recently
8   Bitstamp   BTC/USD   $233,160,000   $13,175.00   2.11%   Recently
9   HitBTC   BCH/BTC   $217,101,000   $13,151.10   1.96%   Recently
10   Coinone   BTC/KRW   $209,399,000   $15,934.60   1.89%   Recently
11   Gemini   BTC/USD   $178,582,000   $13,150.30   1.62%   Recently
12   Korbit   BTC/KRW   $175,350,000   $15,934.60   1.59%   Recently
I have a hard time telling which one is the real Bitcoin. Huh Huh Roll Eyes



185. Post 25878030 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on December 06, 2017, 09:29:50 PM
BTC is no longer accepted on Steam 'cause of high-fees and unstable price
Who cares. It will soon get re-accepted anyways once the Lightning Network rolls out.



186. Post 25878301 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: hazukison on December 06, 2017, 09:31:42 PM
BTC to $45,000 is my goal! I only have 0.44 worth of BTC but if it hits my goal then I might be able to afford a deposit for a house when I finish my final year of uni! (It has 6months to make it lol...) A man can dream! Smiley


Never have no Bitcoins.

Always leave a little in case Bitcoin becomes the global store of value, sell some percent of your holding, say 50% and wait until $90k.

It was more of a case of just being able to afford to get my own place when i finish uni. Needing 15 to 20k is kinda sucky just to start off Sad
Why not wait with getting your own place until you have enough to flatout buy it without even batting an eyelash? The opportunity cost of shorting 20k is quite high with the current Bitcoin market.



187. Post 25878594 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on December 06, 2017, 09:47:18 PM
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Mobile phones, microwaves, color tvs, radios, cars, computers, any revolution really
I think the best way to compare it is with the total market cap of cryptos, rather than BTC. I would probably consider BTC the Ford of cars during their growth

Not sure these are a good model, because all these goods, when successful, have been produced in quantities to lower their price, plus they got competition. Bitcoin cannot have mass production or fake ones.

I don't think there is something quite like bitcoin... Maybe gold, but doubt there is a chart showing gold since 700B.C. Sad
Don't think there's any currency that has existed since 700 B.C. either to even create a chart.



188. Post 25879778 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Lauda on December 06, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
BTC is no longer accepted on Steam 'cause of high-fees and unstable price
They don't know how to use BTC, that's the actual problem. Now they act like they became smarter, whilst Lightning Integration Tests were all passed and RC candidate is almost ready. Cheesy



My body is ready.
Fake news. BTC is $16,410 now.



189. Post 25880332 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 06, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
So today I got a call from someone who wanted to buy bitcoin from me. Bad but understandable english, sounded like a person of some kind of color, and he wanted to trade 30-50 coins.

He sounded exactly like a disney villain. Like Jafar levels of evil. Told him that no sir I can't handle that many, in fact can only handle one at a time. Sadly that was not enough for this distinguished gentleman, so he went off to find someone else to deal with.

I almost don't feel like doing in-person trades anymore. I mean it's almost job-level income but sooner or later something is going to go sideways and I don't need it the way things are going, and I can always go back to it if I ever have to.

Also got a deal tomorrow where I'm making almost a grand, and I barely feel like spending the 10 minutes to do the exchange. Not sure this kind of fast wealth is healthy for me.
Why not? Just means you're getting to a point where you'll have whatever time you need to to whatever the hell you want. Sounds pretty good to me, considering how much the world offers to explore and learn.



190. Post 25880434 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 06, 2017, 10:38:18 PM
I believe we just hit Roger's wall at .1
Let's watch it crumble Smiley
Too bad he has no SegWit2x that he can cancel himself to time another wash trade/tx spam/propaganda attack. Wink



191. Post 25880456 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: AlexGR on December 06, 2017, 10:39:42 PM
Coinmarketcap at 14.000+.

1   Bitcoin   $235,125,418,040   $14,058.50   $11,750,000,000   16,724,787 BTC   17.73%   sparkline
2   Ethereum   $41,243,850,336   $428.83   $1,900,940,000   96,177,175 ETH   -8.07%   sparkline
3   Bitcoin Cash   $23,951,734,288   $1,422.16   $1,079,660,000   16,841,800 BCH   -6.68%   

Interestingly, we've seen 12k, 13k, 14k within ~24hrs...
Check Bithumb, well into 16k. Almost 17k.



192. Post 25881021 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: podyx on December 06, 2017, 10:56:16 PM
Probably will see a $500 dip soon
God forbid, doesn't anybody think of the children? :O

Before or after $18k?



193. Post 25907288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: savetherainforest on December 06, 2017, 11:22:14 PM
So I see people worried for McAfee's dick, and that $400k will fall short, but if I know this guy I'm thinking he wants to eat his dick --especially on TV.
As we close in on $13k, think about that moment the market crashes at $499k and McAfee fires up the grill with a smile.



I sometimes wonder if he has 2 dicks and he just wants to get rid of one of them. Smiley
He adjusted his bet to $1million per BTC.

What if he doesn't have a dick and winning the bet would grow him one by uneating it?



194. Post 25909136 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 07, 2017, 11:34:35 AM
2020 - 2021 expect $800000+ BTC



What u gonna do if it does not happen?  What you gonna do?  huh, huh, huh?

Eat something?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If it doesn't reach $100,000.00 by Dec 2020 I would be prepared to eat a hotdog on the same day McAfee eats his dick.

If it does reach $100.000,00 I'll eat two.





Hey... unless you are a vegan, you are not really gambling anything by eating a hot dog...


And, look your numbers don't even line up....

McAfee seems to be an attention whore.. because he started out with a prediction of $500k and then he moved to a prediction of $1million.

That is just outrageous to expect either of those numbers.. and seems like less than a 5% chance that we would reach $500k by 2020 ...and probably less than a 2% chance to reach $1million by then.  Am I bonkers, or is Ms. McFee bonkers?  (btw.. don't answer that last question it is just rhetorical)
You're bonkers. I can see how Bitcoin could reach $500k to $1000k by 2020 quite easily. But I wouldn't plan my life around those numbers.



195. Post 25909228 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 07, 2017, 11:39:43 AM
So that was a nice gesture to gift 37BTC to Andreas.
My guess is the donator's tax bill just went down a tad,
and Andreas' just went up....
Becoming an expat is becoming more and more lucrative. Wink



196. Post 25909329 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 07, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Hey... unless you are a vegan, you are not really gambling anything by eating a hot dog...


And, look your numbers don't even line up....

McAfee seems to be an attention whore.. because he started out with a prediction of $500k and then he moved to a prediction of $1million.

That is just outrageous to expect either of those numbers.. and seems like less than a 5% chance that we would reach $500k by 2020 ...and probably less than a 2% chance to reach $1million by then.  Am I bonkers, or is Ms. McFee bonkers?  (btw.. don't answer that last question it is just rhetorical)

Unless we are working constantly with micro Bitcoins I cannot see adoption to be that interesting to the average person beyond $100,000.00.
Heck the way the prices are now I wouldn't be able to afford a single BTC without making huge sacrifices or saving up for months, by which time I would only be able to afford probably a fraction of a BTC if prices keep rising.

I think McAfee's predictions are far too high. $50,000.00 end of 2020 would be impressive alone. let alone a factor 10x or 20x higher.
That's what the Lightning Network etc. are meant for.



197. Post 25923530 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Over 19k on Korean exchanges.



198. Post 25923784 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on December 07, 2017, 03:48:52 PM
if this goes on, altcoins will be worthless in 1 week
its like watching a race car right before the crash  Tongue
Alts stabilize more or less around their USD price, so I don't see them becoming worthless. At least not the genuine ones that are bound to have a bright future.



199. Post 25925540 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on December 07, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
Waiting for $30k as first exit moment.
For me is 100k Grin
I'll only take out a little bit to load up on stock and real estate loans, just enough to maintain a luxury lifestyle for the rest of my life from the passive income alone. The rest will stay in crypto forever. Tongue

Cracked $20k in Korea btw.



200. Post 25925613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 07, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
Lol, what a fucking scam.  The price is $15k on bitstamp yet you see some mysterious marginal buyer on coinbase buy 30 coins at $17.5k, and then it will happen again a minute later.  Nobody who is trying to make money does such idiotic bullshit.  When you see marginal buyers who do not care at all whether they make or lose money, or what the price is at all, while the same people simultaneously naked short metals when they're already at cost of production (so there is no money to be made by doing so, only money to lose), the market is basically an Enron fraud about to blow up.
It's called arbitrage.



201. Post 25927288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: tonyq on December 07, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
This is all going to end in tears.
Lots of people going to cry over not jumping on the train.



202. Post 25928490 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: SecondLeoTheSecond on December 07, 2017, 05:55:43 PM
This is all going to end in tears.
Lots of people going to cry over not jumping on the train.

Exactly.

I also see more buying than selling.

This is it I guess. Price will go up, and up, and up! And will not come down. People will work for pennies for them bitcoins. Smiley

Seriously now, someone does not want common folk to get inside at a reasonable price. WTF is this??



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPLKXEUm0jE

if this price is reasonable we will only know in a couple of years
Or you can do some fundamental analysis and make a conclusion right now.

Quote from: arklan on December 07, 2017, 06:08:33 PM
I will insert my dick in a toaster if BTC touches 15K

most unwise, how is your dick Dotto?

To be fair, he didn't say he'd turn it on.

Also, the fuck is going on? Coinbase so high, others so low, where's the arbitrage?
It can't keep up as per usual.

The forum seems to be overloaded too, or is it just me?



203. Post 25943545 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

$23k in Korea lmao. This is getting absurd.



204. Post 25943688 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: explorer on December 08, 2017, 12:30:15 AM
So it's 2.5 mio BTC/KRW ($23K) on Bithumb and 2.4 mio BTC/JPY ($21.5K) on BitFlyer.  Even GDAX almost got to USD$20K.  Global BTC daily volume almost $20 billion and network buckling under 200K tx pending, with most of spam tx out of mempool now due to timeout.  

So when are we going to see even the old hands on deck, who got thru all these years somewhat unscathed, become scared?    Undecided

Unless you are margin trading, what is there to be scared of?
Missing out on double moons? There's some insane money to be made that nobody will ever pick up from perfect trades. Tongue



205. Post 25944142 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on December 08, 2017, 12:35:39 AM
I doubt that old hands are scared of price movement since BTC can pull a 80% and hodlers wouldn't even blink.  

But it may pull a premature over-reaction from one of government (e.g. South Korea) and having huge spike in tx when network capacity is only around 500K (even with Segwit) may put pressure on dev team to do something rash without thorough testing.  
Governments aren't supposed to have anything to really say in crypto. That's what it was created for.



206. Post 25944976 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 08, 2017, 01:16:17 AM
The banks panicking and trying to walk back the futures decision just underlines the threat they feel...people are getting it
Source?



207. Post 25958029 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Oh my god, Bitcoin crashed to 17k overnight. $6k down!! Bitcoin is dead!



208. Post 26038805 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: CristiTCM on December 09, 2017, 04:48:42 PM
Some panic before futures starts perhaps?

I bought at 13950
good, im waiting for a better price Cheesy
I wouldn't mind a better price for my 13th paycheck either. Cheesy



209. Post 26039828 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 09, 2017, 05:13:08 PM
O shit. I think honey badger just got stung and is about to take a nap for a little bit... Sad
There's only a finite amount of cocaine for the honey badger to dip its nose into after all. It had to pass out at some point for the sake of its health.



210. Post 26039966 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: 404Revolution on December 09, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
O shit. I think honey badger just got stung and is about to take a nap for a little bit... Sad
There's only a finite amount of cocaine for the honey badger to dip its nose into after all. It had to pass out at some point for the sake of its health.
I wouldn't call passing out after months of binging on coke without sleep healthy.
That just means that you've got some growing to do. Roll Eyes



211. Post 26040935 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 09, 2017, 05:31:13 PM
Now I can ONLY afford to retire in a semi-extravagant fashion. Not lavishly-extravagant as I'd hoped.

Fuck it.

Bitcoin is dead.

* BobLawblaw throws himself out the barn window
Oh no Roll Eyes



212. Post 26041593 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on December 09, 2017, 05:38:24 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2017/12/09/seven-lies-bitcoin-fans-tell-themselves-and-anyone-else-who-will-listen/

 Roll Eyes
Can't read without adblock. Can tell that it's the usual Forbes garbage though from the title.



213. Post 26043960 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: Xian01 on December 09, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
What have I missed ? Are we rich yet ?
By what standard?



214. Post 26044101 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: vroom on December 09, 2017, 06:48:09 PM
20k confirmed
I think you're a couple hours late. Huh



215. Post 26048728 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 09, 2017, 08:32:29 PM
I put Adolf Hitler on my ignore list. Or is it Angela Merkel? There isn't much difference these days it seems.

Thanks for demonstrating women are incapable of doing anything besides spamming political correctness and trying to adhere to whatever they perceive popular opinion is.
To be fair, politicians are just puppets (regardless of whether or not they are in the know). Politics is a huge farce.



216. Post 26049328 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: julian071 on December 09, 2017, 08:48:20 PM
Don't want to be talking my book here, but have you seen that the new Byteball wallet allows payments to any email-adress? I've been waiting for killer applications like that in bitcoin waaaaayyy to long.

Edit: LOL ^
It does? Or am I getting trolled?



217. Post 26049836 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: julian071 on December 09, 2017, 09:02:46 PM
Don't want to be talking my book here, but have you seen that the new Byteball wallet allows payments to any email-adress? I've been waiting for killer applications like that in bitcoin waaaaayyy to long.

Edit: LOL ^
It does? Or am I getting trolled?

https://medium.com/byteball/sending-cryptocurrency-to-email-5c9bce22b8a9
Very nice, thanks.

Can we expect this on Bitcoin at any point?



218. Post 26049934 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: AlexGR on December 09, 2017, 09:08:13 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/bulgaria-government-shocked-discover-it-owns-3-billion-bitcoin

Ain't seen any mention of this. The Bulgarian authorities seized 213,000 bitcoins from some pesky criminals. I wonder how and where and over how long they gathered so many coins.

No doubt some pencil necks will insist they will dump all on Yobit.

What I find odd in all these confiscation stories is the password protection of confiscated bitcoins. I mean ok, the authorities might have access to a wallet.dat which says it has XXXX bitcoins in it, but from there to actually accessing the funds is quite some distance away - assuming there is a wallet key protecting the funds.

That's why I'm assuming that most authorities "confiscations" do not necessarily translate to getting access to those coins.

How many years do you think it'll take before the circulating supply reduces to less than 1m BTC? Tongue



219. Post 26050181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: julian071 on December 09, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
Don't want to be talking my book here, but have you seen that the new Byteball wallet allows payments to any email-adress? I've been waiting for killer applications like that in bitcoin waaaaayyy to long.

Edit: LOL ^
It does? Or am I getting trolled?

https://medium.com/byteball/sending-cryptocurrency-to-email-5c9bce22b8a9
Very nice, thanks.

Can we expect this on Bitcoin at any point?

YW. I certainly hope so. Must be something for LN though as fees are too high right now.
I'm not even worried about the fees. There's too much money involved for Bitcoin to disappear over fees.



220. Post 26050648 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: AlexGR on December 09, 2017, 09:28:26 PM
And they have to give the password? Why?

Quote from: julian071 on December 09, 2017, 09:20:41 PM




221. Post 26050772 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 09, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
When the hell did BitMEX become the highest volume exchange?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Perhaps this indicates action (shorting it seems) by American institutional investors.

It's not technically a Bitcoin exchange.
Why would derivatives be listed in Bitcoin's CMC?



222. Post 26051703 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: fabiorem on December 09, 2017, 09:44:15 PM
When the hell did BitMEX become the highest volume exchange?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Perhaps this indicates action (shorting it seems) by American institutional investors.

It's not technically a Bitcoin exchange.
Why would derivatives be listed in Bitcoin's CMC?


Maybe they want to inflate the marketcap with bitcoin which don't exist.

The supply is fixed, so the addition of derivatives won't change the market cap unless the amount of derivatives gets ridiculous and deviates strongly from the real price. Now volume on the other hand...



223. Post 26052119 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.31h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 09, 2017, 09:53:16 PM
so we broke down through the parabolic-est trend...I guess for the moment we will have to settle for parabolic-er-er-er growth

Parabolas have two sides, you know....


Sure, but you can move the middle point around to make it appear the way most people would like it to. Wink



224. Post 26079166 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: RayX12 on December 10, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
Look like everything is on hold until traders realize that the futures market has no effect on price.  Maybe some time later when leveraging is increased from 2.2X to 100X there could be incentive to manipulate the markets.  For now I think the accumulation will continue.  25K, 50K soon..
Yeah I found it quite peculiar that people seem to care that much about the futures. I had to double check to make sure that I didn't miss something, but there's just no reason why futures should matter to Bitcoin other than creating more interest and hence fortifying a bullish signal. Can't really expect much sanity from such a massive gold rush though I suppose.



225. Post 26082523 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: vroom on December 10, 2017, 01:10:42 PM
do you guys know when the next antminer s9 will be available? the current stock is sold out and I can't find any dates. or do you know something about current or upcoming s9 alternatives?
No idea, but given who is selling them I'd wait for competition to come out. There was one company that was just about ready (forgot the name) from China and one that is currently in the research phase in Japan. I'd go with GPU mining some other coin until it's possible to avoid Bitmain though.



226. Post 26084783 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: vroom on December 10, 2017, 02:03:25 PM
do you guys know when the next antminer s9 will be available? the current stock is sold out and I can't find any dates. or do you know something about current or upcoming s9 alternatives?
No idea, but given who is selling them I'd wait for competition to come out. There was one company that was just about ready (forgot the name) from China and one that is currently in the research phase in Japan. I'd go with GPU mining some other coin until it's possible to avoid Bitmain though.

I also read about competitors and forgot the names. One said they have a running product which is better then the s9 and a core dev somehow proved it. but I can't find it anymore...

CCMF?


I just found it again. The Chinese one is called DragonMint and ships in April: https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t/

The Japanese company is called GMO. I would personally wait for the Japanese ones just to make sure that DragonMint isn't somehow related to Jihan Wu (who could be anticipating a decline in Bitmain's sale due to his BCash garbage and attack on Bitcoin). In the meantime there are going to be enough profits to be made with altcoins and Bitcoin itself. I wouldn't even get miners for making money, but just to support the network and improve decentralization.



227. Post 26092139 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 10, 2017, 04:19:46 PM
I'm totally fucked at Coinbase. Sitting on an obscene amount of fiat from a recent sale, but don't have access to my Funding/Withdrawal page. Something 'tarded like below is what I'm getting.

Sheeeeeeit.

Why on Earth didn't you do an OTC sale? There's no way I'd trust any exchange with amounts above a few grand. They're too prone to freeze you over AML shite.
How exactly are you going to do an OTC sale for an "obscene amount of fiat" without exposing yourself to extreme risks?



228. Post 26100094 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: TERA2 on December 10, 2017, 06:48:55 PM
What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto

What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn.



229. Post 26100670 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: User705 on December 10, 2017, 07:08:34 PM
What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto

What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn.
Which exchanges are decentralized?
Waves is already up and running and decentralized. New platform coming up soon which will make it actually useable (the old one is lackluster and doesn't attract volume, the new one will).

There's also NVO but that's not coming until Q1 2018. DEX's will be a major thing once regulators start trying to poop the party though.



230. Post 26104631 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 10, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto

What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn.
Which exchanges are decentralized?

https://bisq.network/
http://www.coinffeine.com/
How is fiat handled?
There are solutions for fiat... but I don't think it's a great idea to give regulators too much of a hint at this point in time. Depends a lot on your country and how much effort you are willing to put into collecting fiat though.



231. Post 26104823 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: arklan on December 10, 2017, 08:41:43 PM
Do we actually expect any sudden action today from the futures stuff?
Probably. At least until the whole market realizes that futures mean fuck all to Bitcoin's price (other than bringing more mainstream attention to it).



232. Post 26104844 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.32h):

Quote from: explorer on December 10, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
Do we actually expect any sudden action today from the futures stuff?

Single digits in 3 hours, is what I heard.  Seemed legit.
If only.



233. Post 26572448 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Searing on December 18, 2017, 10:06:50 PM



Not sure this is true about capital gains and income taxes....Puerto Rico

but it damn sure got my attention!

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/states-great-tax-breaks-retirees.html/10/


wow! (if true, damn unlikely...but wow!)


Oh boy. Another potential target for retirement. Third country with no or negligible taxes for crypto investors.



234. Post 26573781 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: savetherainforest on December 18, 2017, 10:54:45 PM
My friends be like:




You have retarded friends.... Smiley ... I forced mine to buy 0.1 ... 0.05 ... etc... Cheesy Cheesy

At least they have a small piece of it and don't come begging at me when they are poor. Smiley
I tried, but almost all of my friends are pussies. I got exactly two of them to start and one only went in with monopoly money.



235. Post 26574481 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 18, 2017, 11:28:51 PM
Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.

You can reset the password without doing the 2fa. They just need the e-mail that you use. Just not get into the account afterword.


I lost some bitcoins in February due to e-mail hacking and phone porting, and funny that hackers may not know how many coins that you have, and from rumors, here, bones, you have claimed to be pretty poor in your bitcoin holdings - yet hackers do not necessarily know that.

So there are a few ways that we can become vulnerable, and the hackers are considering different ways to enter into accounts that have lesser levels of security... needless to say that I had taken several measures to improve my security, and I had some further attempts, but so far, none of the hacking attempts had been successful after February.. and I am not ruling out techniques that could be employed by hackers to break into account, so security continues to be an evolving question and something that we want to keep abreast of, and even while life happens, we do not want to create so much security or to end up losing our own access to our account that might not even had been caused by a hacker.
Locking myself out makes me more paranoid than hackers to be honest.



236. Post 26575314 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 18, 2017, 11:53:10 PM
It'd take at least another doubling for me to start thinking about quitting my day job. And stranger things have happened.

Wanna get there faster? Other investors will HATE you - http://yetanotherico.com/TokenAntelope.ai/First-solidty-powered-crypto-currency-for-furure-travelling-opportunities
It even has the typos... what attention to detail, wow.


Quote from: bones261 on December 18, 2017, 11:51:57 PM
Locking myself out makes me more paranoid than hackers to be honest.

Locking myself out used to be a concern of mine too. So I would never do the 2FA. What turned me off to 2FA was way back in the Paycoin scam. I was using Authy and somehow, GAW let something expire so I couldn't get the Authy to work to access their page to collect my meager 5 XPY. I eventually did figure out how to get it to work with Google Authenticator. After that, I never bothered. However, this year, as my meager holdings gained more value, I began to start using the 2FA again. My holdings may not be worth much, but it would be rather difficult to shrug off a theft of them. Even .005 BTC would smart.
I'm using Google's 2FA, but the amount of passwords and accounts that I use is getting out of hand as well. Damn limits.



237. Post 26575383 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: LewisPirenne on December 18, 2017, 11:56:21 PM

Thats also my plan. Smiley

All this has a bittersweet taste for me;  because I got into bitcoin just 1 week before i registered here..
more than 6 years since that time when i got my first coins,and  almost everything got wrong..    Embarrassed

but im still kicking and hoping for better times  Cheesy

Ouch, I think some people here, like Arklan, also started in 2011 and supposedly end up with barely anything.  But like Rosewater said, if Andreas Antonopoulos can end up with almost no bitcoin and only recently become debt free, then any bitcoiners can end up making wrong calls that eventually see most of their paper wealth to evaporate (and that includes even the current semi-billionaire such as Roger Ver).
How do you wipe out your paper money? Did he not keep enough to maintain his lifestyle stashed away in secure assets and went on a reckless spending spree?



238. Post 26575683 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: arklan on December 19, 2017, 12:05:31 AM

Thats also my plan. Smiley

All this has a bittersweet taste for me;  because I got into bitcoin just 1 week before i registered here..
more than 6 years since that time when i got my first coins,and  almost everything got wrong..    Embarrassed

but im still kicking and hoping for better times  Cheesy

Ouch, I think some people here, like Arklan, also started in 2011 and supposedly end up with barely anything.  But like Rosewater said, if Andreas Antonopoulos can end up with almost no bitcoin and only recently become debt free, then any bitcoiners can end up making wrong calls that eventually see most of their paper wealth to evaporate (and that includes even the current semi-billionaire such as Roger Ver).
How do you wipe out your paper money? Did he not keep enough to maintain his lifestyle stashed away in secure assets and went on a reckless spending spree?

in my case, longterm under/unemployment and selling my btc before the 2013 spike... and lots of dumb choices.
Ah I see, tough luck. Hope things are better now at least.



239. Post 26575821 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

These stories make me feel glad that my laziness and frugal lifestyle make unemployment completely irrelevant. I do splurge every now and then, but I'm mostly content with just the internet for entertainment. Once I can just buy at least a squarekilometre of land and set up an OTG mansion on it with some live-in cooks/maids without even caring about that kind of sum I'll probably do it though. In the meantime living small and traveling/eating big is good enough.



240. Post 26576055 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 19, 2017, 12:20:33 AM
I like this idea of progression.  So perhaps, each of us are starting at a different place on the spectrum, and perhaps bitcoin can assist us to move up on the spectrum, depending upon how much we have been able to accumulate and how good we are at HODL.


So maybe I will put these in a slightly different order than you, AlcoHoDL.....


So here it is, perhaps 12 levels could accommodate most of us and show some progression in our financial well-being (especially if we did the right thing in regards to buying, accumulating and hodling bitcoin):

First we start at:

1) supported by the parents

2) living paycheck to paycheck,

3) having a bit of a reserve and using that reserve to invest in bitcoin

4) getting by with a cushion

5) comfortable

6) sassy and splurging a bit

7) well off

8) moderately rich

9) rich

10) wealthy

11) this is gentlemen

12) filthy rich
Can we quantify these levels? ;)

There's a "Don't use smileys." additional option(s...) by the way.



241. Post 26577724 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 19, 2017, 01:29:09 AM
I think it may be time for some retaliation attacks against Wu and Antpool who have demonstrably become malicious miners, attacking the bitcoin network.

They are withholding blocks, spamming the network to drive up fees and being a general nuisance to the point that if they were excluded from the mining network it would do more good than harm to bitcoin. They are doing everything in their power to subvert the network, without performing the 51% attack which they may actually be capable of.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/

In short, someone needs to fuck these guys over seriously. It's well past time.
I really wouldn't mind seeing that. But the next best thing seems to be the new ASIC providers that are starting up. Would be nice if there were more of them though.



242. Post 26577839 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: OWZ1337 on December 19, 2017, 01:33:54 AM
I think it may be time for some retaliation attacks against Wu and Antpool who have demonstrably become malicious miners, attacking the bitcoin network.

They are withholding blocks, spamming the network to drive up fees and being a general nuisance to the point that if they were excluded from the mining network it would do more good than harm to bitcoin. They are doing everything in their power to subvert the network, without performing the 51% attack which they may actually be capable of.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/

In short, someone needs to fuck these guys over seriously. It's well past time.
I really wouldn't mind seeing that. But the next best thing seems to be the new ASIC providers that are starting up. Would be nice if there were more of them though.

asics are dead brah you can't mine corns no more!! Cool  lol
Does the popcorn just grow straight on the cob now?



243. Post 26622684 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: RayX12 on December 19, 2017, 07:53:46 PM
Wrong direction now. Goddamnit.



OMG does it really go up and down with portafolio BTC value??    DAMMMMM I LOVE IT!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Where do I buy this marvelous contraption?



244. Post 26622747 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: RayX12 on December 19, 2017, 08:01:47 PM
I hope someone proves this guy wrong!!  

Bitcoin gamed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOgbai2e0kA
As far as I'm aware there is no direct link between Bitcoin futures and Bitcoin itself. So even if Bitcoin follows the futures and goes short, the market should eventually realize that the futures price is irrelevant. Correct me if I'm wrong, still not 100% clear on the whole futures business.



245. Post 26627527 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 19, 2017, 10:35:43 AM
Looking less and less like $20k USD/BTC before New Year at this rate Sad

I would love to be wrong.
NYE means 13th paycheck and holiday bonus for some people. I don't mind a crash so people can dump more of their fiat.



246. Post 26628403 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

What the fuck is even going on? Could someone tl;dr me?



247. Post 26628441 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 19, 2017, 10:10:45 PM
Ah, and finally here is the trigger :

(it took ZH long to figure it out this time Grin)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing
Fuck Denmark.

member fuck denmark?



248. Post 26630645 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: strawbs on December 19, 2017, 11:09:55 PM
Ah, and finally here is the trigger :

(it took ZH long to figure it out this time Grin)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-19/bitcoin-crashing

Anyone who uses ZeroHedge as their news source deserves to have sold at the bottom

I hope you do not consider me as taking ZH as my news source... . But probably millions are doing so, time to sell the house(and all that goes with it) and be ready to buy the bottom... .

Ha, no that's not what I meant! Just saying that anyone who read that ZH article and sold their BTC as a result, probably deserves their losses. It's staggering how often BTC enthusiasts quote ZH as 'fact' (probably before their first shave).
To be fair, people quote a lot of weird stuff as 'fact'. I'm not even fully convinced that unmutable facts exist whatsoever in this world.



249. Post 26632398 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: explorer on December 19, 2017, 11:56:10 PM
Off Topic, but should be of importance to everyone, really.

Anyone using proton mail?  I've left gmail as my general email provider (kitten pics, boring shit, and log ins for unimportant shit) for too long, and I'm not convinced my 'more secure (obscure?)' providers are any better.  The last straw - I just reset my passwords via webmail, and ALL of my android devices automatically updated and logged in with the new passwords.  This is beyond sketchy.  It screams GET OUT NOW, or years ago, if you have a way back machine.  I try not to use it for anything important anyway, but WTAF.  So its time to evacuate and consolidate.  Anything better than proton out there?  If it's not free, it has to accept crypto.  And of course, be anonymous.
Would like to know this as well. Been getting more and more paranoid with the ridiculous growth rates in the past 1-2 years.



250. Post 26632501 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 12:03:52 AM
To be fair, people quote a lot of weird stuff as 'fact'. I'm not even fully convinced that unmutable facts exist whatsoever in this world.

Not only that, but 98% of society takes so called 'facts' given to them from the MSM as gospel. It blows me away when people just blindly believe what they are given at face value.
It's usually impossible to even begin a conversation with such people too... even if you make it abundantly clear that we're just talking hypotheticals as an academic exercise.



251. Post 26633083 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 12:14:55 AM

Every time Coinbase has a chance to retain or regain my respect, they lose even more.

Pretty soon they'll just be a Cryptsy 2.0 shitcoin peddler. Brian Armstrong obviously could give two shits about the Bitcoin movement as a whole.
Makes me glad I don't use them.



252. Post 26633688 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 20, 2017, 12:37:16 AM
Do we crash and burn now?
Hope so. Getting a decent influx of fiat on the 31st.



253. Post 26633775 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 20, 2017, 12:46:37 AM
Everyone panic.  We are almost down to last week’s price.  
Oh no. Last week's price. Whatever will we do with such cheap Bitcoin? Roll Eyes



254. Post 26633787 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: mfort312 on December 20, 2017, 12:48:21 AM
Haha who sold at $14,001 on GDAX?
Either a moron, or a guy trying to dump the price even further. So in either case, a moron.



255. Post 26633929 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: TReano on December 20, 2017, 12:51:57 AM
So it seems like this is the turning point where the public gets that the SegWit Coin they are all hyped and invested in, has the highest Transaction fees out there paired with the slowest transaction times on top?

 Grin
More like another pathetic attack by WuVer.



256. Post 26633957 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: podyx on December 20, 2017, 12:55:13 AM
I bought at 15815 at bitstamp


Is that otter holding Bitcoins or corks?



257. Post 26634079 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: podyx on December 20, 2017, 12:58:03 AM
I bought at 15815 at bitstamp

]https://i.imgur.com/vIf0lAD.gif?noredirect[/img]
Is that otter holding Bitcoins or corks?


Very nice hottler, thanks for the full size.

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 12:58:30 AM
I wouldn't call it a crash, more like a lack of liquidity in that spike down to 14K on GDAX.  Their "news" has obviously caught people off guard, except for the BCH crews and pumpers who are obviously in the know.

Here's the thing: There is no way that the pumpers would know to short/dump bitcoin and pump BCH way ahead of Coinbase's surprise announcement, unless they had been tipped off by insiders at the company. And insider trading is illegal.

Therefore Brian Armstrong should be investigated.
Do laws even apply to unregulated markets?



And on another note, are we already reversing back? BTrash pumps seems very short-lived. Seems like it might end up going down in history as the P&D shitcoin.



258. Post 26634467 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 01:03:23 AM
I wouldn't call it a crash, more like a lack of liquidity in that spike down to 14K on GDAX.  Their "news" has obviously caught people off guard, except for the BCH crews and pumpers who are obviously in the know.

Here's the thing: There is no way that the pumpers would know to short/dump bitcoin and pump BCH way ahead of Coinbase's surprise announcement, unless they had been tipped off by insiders at the company. And insider trading is illegal.

Therefore Brian Armstrong should be investigated.
Do laws even apply to unregulated markets?

For a company that is supposedly trying to go public as early as next year, and are in a lawsuit with the IRS, they sure as shit better get their act together when it comes to "regulations".
How about a group lawsuit? Would love to see BTrash getting some well-deserved spanking.



259. Post 26634516 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

I also find it hilarious that the BTrash shills keep crawling out of their caves whenever WuVer launches a (short-lived) attack. Top tier entertainment, maybe Netflix will adapt the show in 2018.



260. Post 26634584 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: TReano on December 20, 2017, 01:19:15 AM
Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better

Blaspheme

cmon
i want an answer

much lower fees, more transactions
so how is btc better ?

I think this is a religious forum we are not allowed to ask those questions.

The public is getting it slowly... How can you say that a currency is going to be the future when you can't even use it as a currency anymore...?
Do you get paid before the artificial pump or afterwards? And how much does Satan pay you to give him a good penile vacuuming?



261. Post 26634898 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: TReano on December 20, 2017, 01:26:43 AM
Ok serious question u guys

in what way is Btc better than BCash ?

from what i read online

BCash does everything btc does only better


SegWit Coin has far superior censorship going on ...


I mean who on Earth with a straight face can say it's better to have 50$+ TX fees and over 250k unconfirmed transactions ?

Just to wait for Lightning Networks? Which nobody knows if it ever will work and it will create on top centralized Super Hubs which Banks are going to control because it requires a license as money transmitter...


And the trolls start their bla bla bla... Gonna have to unignore someone to make room for you. Welcome!

I don't even care... If you think you are safe in your Censorship bubble ... You might want to listen to the price movement in the upcoming weeks and months.
More and more people are getting it that Lightning Networks is the real bubble they believed in...
Maybe the price will speak louder and make people understand what is going on.
More and more people? There's complete silence almost aching to a primordial void whenever BTrash isn't in the middle of an adorable toddler's attack.



262. Post 26635081 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: explorer on December 20, 2017, 01:37:26 AM
In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.

Call me paranoid, but I can't help wondering if some/all of the fork BS is just to shake coins into moving, so the alphabet agencies can better map the blockchain.
Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 01:33:15 AM
In the equities world, the whale traders use fake news and insider trading on earnings and announcements to induce volatility and scam the weak hands out of their shares.

In the crypto world, Bitcoin has no such things as earnings or announcements per se. After all the hacks and exploits were over, it had no enemies or threats left either.

So the establishment had to create one in order to facilitate FUD and trading volatility: BCash.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. Wouldn't be the first time that large entities try to use other people's creations to screw everybody else over.

Sometimes I wish there was a way to peak behind the curtains. But then I'm not sure if these events would be anywhere near as exciting if I had full information of what was going on.



263. Post 26635108 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: oblox on December 20, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
How the fuck is BCash 9500 on gdax... what a fucking joke.
Wash trading. Just like last time. And the time before.



264. Post 26635171 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 20, 2017, 01:43:13 AM
How do I vote for 23k on the Dec 31 poll ?

The $22k-$24k
range
is
missing .


Both me and JJG already pointed this out a few days ago, but infofront probably missed our posts. I'm also waiting for him to add that missing range, so I can vote...
Ah. Maybe my post will stand out more and get noticed?
Moving too quickly right now. Try again after the BTrash crap is over, again.



265. Post 26635538 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Heater on December 20, 2017, 01:49:10 AM
How do we get the word out there that Roger Ver is the most hated man in crypto?

Sites like this are sadly out of date:
https://themerkle.com/top-4-worst-people-in-cryptocurrency-history/

Maybe we need a voting site with cryptographic proof?

Off the top of my head the contenders would be:

1. Roger Ver
2. Mark Karpeles
3. Craig Wright

Add Jihan Wu.



266. Post 26635597 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

500 MBit and I can't synchronize my BCash wallet. Omgerd instant & no fees.



267. Post 26635681 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: itod on December 20, 2017, 02:02:21 AM
I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.

They are almost without exception generated using Javascript security libraries. Proven to be inadequate and with random number generators broken if source of entropy is insufficient. Even people who wrote this sites generating paper wallets got them off the internet and advise they should not to be used. Only worse wallets then paperwallets are brainwallets, but people keep using them both for mysterious reasons.
Because $100 is very expensive. Especially when hundreds of thousands or more are at stake. Cheesy



268. Post 26636534 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: drbrockcoin on December 20, 2017, 02:33:07 AM
Don't be shocked if Coinbase adds Ripple next. If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what will.

I presume Coinbase's ultimate aim is to be bought out by Goldman Sachs et al. They are not anyone's friend and don't have anything's best interest at heart other than their own value.

No one should be shocked by this, but I am slightly surprised at the blatantness of this particular move taking place during blockchain spamming, difficulty readjustment, all time high in attention and super high fees.

Coinbase merely added Bitcoin Cash as fast as they could...stop acting like there's a conspiracy behind the time of the release.

Originally they said Jan 1st, 2018 so I'm glad they are ahead of schedule.

Yes its just a coincidence that futures open, Ripple is promoted, BCH is released EARLY on the very exchage that rumoured Ripple would be supported, BCH is pumped, BCH trading is disabled on GDAX.

So many coincidences. If I was at all conspirational (you know believe in the JFK conspiracy, 9/11, Operation Gladio, Operation Paperclip and on and on and on) I would say this is a co-ordinated attack.

Dont you think its time to wake up?
It definitely is a coordinated attack. The only questions are who is behind it, and what is their goal.



269. Post 26636855 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: Torque on December 20, 2017, 02:48:19 AM
Hey in other news, Bitcoin Gold is up 25%.

To hell with BCH. Go BTG, go!  Grin
*BCash please.



270. Post 26637022 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 20, 2017, 02:50:04 AM
Don't listen to the fools thinking that any coin comes close to Bitcoin. There is no coin that is even close to solving the scalability problem.

Well duh, Lauda.  It's just like Hal Finney says, bitcoin can only function as a settlement network.  You would have people hoarding their life savings in bitcoins and then transferring say, $10k at a time or whatever to a 3rd party centralized service so that they can spend it (oxymoron since bitcoin itself is designed to centralize so both are centralized services in reality).

The problem here is even if you make believe bitcoin is decentralized, you can do the EXACT SAME THING with gold and silver - transfer a small amount at a time to a 3rd party service to spend it, and gold and silver are far superior stores of value while bitcoin isn't a store of value at all.  Metals also actually remove middle men when being spent in native coin format while there's no way possible to remove middlemen (transaction validators) from bitcoin.

As you can see, there's no reason for bitcoin to even exist compared to gold and silver.  It will never defeat metals as the base of Exter's pyramid.  Claiming an imaginary object (bitcoin) can be a superior store of value is the most laughable statement in the entire history of mankind.
Except that metals can be mined indefinitely. And if the price of them increased beyond a certain point people would just research ways to create them in a lab. Meanwhile Bitcoins will never go beyond a given amount.



271. Post 26637919 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.33h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 20, 2017, 03:18:26 AM
Oh man... This dump might have been my fault.  I bought this chocolate train tonight and I was gonna stamp CCMF into it and be all like
 Chew Chew Motherfuckers!
Unfortunately I left it inside the front door while I got the rest of the stuff out of the car and I called my daughter to help me... she didn't see the bag and stomped on the train  Cry

At first it looked like it might be okay -




 But then as I tried to extract it from the plastic...


https://i.imgur.com/XDm1DbJ.jpg

 #REKT

 I'm going to have to eat it.



To be fair, it was driving the wrong way (to the left/"down") anyways, so maybe it was for the best that it derailed instead of choochooing the price to $0! Cheesy



272. Post 26697296 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 21, 2017, 02:10:57 AM
This market is a joke.  ALL alts no matter how useless and shitty up +50% at the same time for no reason LOL.  And where did the money come from?  The same money that was used to pump bitcoin of course.  After the handful of people controlling BTC price couldn't find anyone to buy their absurdly overpriced bitcoins, they move to the next coin to try and pump and dump it.  What more evidence do you need that every single one of these coins whether it's BTC or an alt is nothing but a pump and dump?  The real carnage begins after they find nobody to buy these overpriced alts, then both BTC + alts implode together.


Ya know like in 20 years or so when bitcoin is at a 100 grande or whatever and all the top major alts are  all like thousands per coin
I can just see wrinkly old man roach on his rocking chair on the porch barking out the same old shit...
"bitcoin blockchain bankster jew conspiricy!!! blah blah blah! the jews control it all! blah blah blah!!buy silver!!!buy gold !!! blah blah blah!!!
read my Steeming pile of doogie link!
100k? 20 years? What the fuck?



273. Post 26697622 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Millionero on December 21, 2017, 02:24:07 AM
I don't know if you guys are superstitious, but the fact that 23k doesn't exist on the poll might just mean that's where it'll land.
Now, if they change the poll so that you can vote for 23k, that means it won't happen.
I say Don't Touch That Dial!
Schroedinger's poll?



274. Post 26698056 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 02:39:22 AM
I tried to send a loaf of bread using a postage stamp once. The post is officially worse than Blockstream!
Are you serious



275. Post 26698136 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 02:44:44 AM
I tried to send a loaf of bread using a postage stamp once. The post is officially worse than Blockstream!
Are you serious
Do I look serious?
Dead serious.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 21, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
I don't know if you guys are superstitious, but the fact that 23k doesn't exist on the poll might just mean that's where it'll land.
Now, if they change the poll so that you can vote for 23k, that means it won't happen.
I say Don't Touch That Dial!
Schroedinger's poll?
Now you have me thinking "Schroedinger's Troll". But yes, these fees are getting stupid. Maybe it's time to boost the blocksize......


Yeah... it makes sense to give in to the terrorists.. that will fix everything, right?    Roll Eyes
Of course it does. Imagine we all went up and supported ISIS. Humanity would probably cease to exist in a relatively short span of time, which would fix all human problems once and for all.



276. Post 26698514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Paashaas on December 21, 2017, 02:50:01 AM
'Insider trading is a non crime. I think Insider Trading is a non-event. It just makes the markets more efficient" - Roger Ver on CNBC

Brian ore Roger's head is going to roll..get youre popcorn ready, the SEC lawyers are getting ready Kiss


Is that an actual quote? (Not that I'd be surprised)



277. Post 26698710 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 21, 2017, 03:00:33 AM
Nice way to throw Brian Armstrong under the bus. I hope it crushes his legs. And sinks his seastead.

Lots of people like this have made their fortunes in a vacuum of utter lawlessness. It's going to be interesting to see what happens as they enter the leagues where your card can be heavily marked by people watching you.

Stuff no crypto person gives a second thought to would be enough to make a conventional trader or fatcat start whimpering at the legal repercussions. I presume they're paying for some decent advice but I'm not so sure.
If they actually are, then legislation is even more fucked than I'd ever though. They seem to be treading on very thin ice with BCash.



278. Post 26699117 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 21, 2017, 03:18:16 AM
Let me get this straight first. The average fee was $100 CAD (whatever that is), but he decided to pay $40. Then got impatient and decided to pay another $300.
These are the bcash thought-leaders.

I just spat out a mouthful of beautiful 2011 Cabernet Sauvignon all over my monitor from laughing so hard, you asshole.
How long does it take to develop an appreciation for wine? I was actually quite surprised at how quickly it worked with scotch, but even after the fact I didn't find myself enjoying wine and just stopped trying. Been a while though and actually curious.



279. Post 26699588 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 21, 2017, 03:26:14 AM
How long does it take to develop an appreciation for wine?

It took me a decade or so before my palate got refined enough to enjoy and recognize the subtleties.

EDIT: Visiting Napa wineries, taking tours, joining their clubs, attending events, speaking to all the various individual vintners. There is a lot to learn, and you almost need your hand held through the process to fully learn about wine.

It really is a hoity-toity sorta thing. Kinda embarrassing in a way, but, what you gonna do ?
I don't really care much about what others think if there's something interesting to explore. There's too many interesting things to choose from though, so I usually find myself drawn into one direction for a while before I start getting a little bored and look for something else.

How frequently did you drink during that decade? When I started experimenting with scotch I went a little overboard and poured myself a dram or two every day for a few weeks and went from tasting just alcohol to tasting sweetness to being able to discern the type of sweetness (fruity/syrupy) to being able to tell types of fruits among other things. A particular whisky just reaked and tasted like cigarette butts for a while too before opening up into a bacon bonfire with a basked of fruit thrown into it. It was quite intruiging to watch things develop so quickly, I expected it to take much longer. When I toned down I found myself losing that ability though, similar to how your muscles degrade once you stop working out, just on a different time scale. A decade seems like quite some work though, damn.



280. Post 26699975 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 21, 2017, 03:45:28 AM
How frequently did you drink during that decade?

Wine mostly on weekends. More of a beer dude during the week. Tried to get into Scotch, but I just can't get over the bitterness and harshness of it. Not my thing, unfortunately.

I did go through a savage tequila phase in my younger years, and haven't touched the stuff in over 25 years. Won't touch anything with tequila in it. Makes me unbelievably nauseous nowadays.

Good times, in retrospect.
I found that the glass makes a huge difference. Also have to nose the shit out of scotch/whisky before sipping on it to adjust your expectations. If I just try to drink it right away it doesn't really taste good even now, and depending on the glass the palette and aroma differ quite drastically too. If you keep it in your mouth the burn will happen in there and not while swallowing too, which opens up more flavour. Also, there are tons of different scotches which vary quite massively. Islay ones usually kick your ass (the aforementioned cigarette butts). Meanwhile Speyside whiskys are quite smooth and sweet.

And yeah, I had my tequilla phase as well. For some reason it was the go-to drink when I was young. Perhaps because of the involved salt and lemon ritual that makes "getting drunk" seem more "refined" or whatever.

Wonder if I could grind through wine in a similar way as I did with scotch now though. Maybe I'll take a break from my occasional drinking to try a wine experiment sometime soon.



281. Post 26700253 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Moonshine in a rusty cup. Flavor country.


Is there a high res version of that gif?


Quote from: bitserve on December 21, 2017, 04:06:01 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/bitcoin-jesus-says-investors-should-be-ready-in-case-bitcoin-falls-out-of-favor.html

Quote
* Roger Ver, CEO of Bitcoin.com, said on CNBC's "Fast Money" that for years he's recommended investors not hold bitcoin on exchanges, which can be hacked.

* But right now, he said, investors may want to keep their holdings on an exchange so they can easily transfer their funds into another digital coin in case bitcoin falls out of popularity.

Roger Ver, CEO of Bitcoin.com, said Wednesday on CNBC's "Fast Money" that "bitcoin miners" may shift their processing power over to bitcoin cash if the offshoot becomes popular enough.

As a result, "you might want to consider holding your bitcoins on your exchange, so if there's a mass exodus of people rushing for the door, your money will already be on the exchange, so you can sell your bitcoin core coins for more bitcoin cash or whatever else you want," Ver said.

This guy is even more insane than I thought...
Inb4 more hacked exchanges. Wonder if he's just an establishment puppet.



282. Post 26732821 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 21, 2017, 04:05:33 PM
What, 15,300? Yawn.... Wake me when it hits 10k.
Even $10k would only be mildly disappointing in the short term. I was ripe for a holiday break anyways, so this is quite alright.



283. Post 26733181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Crypto Zacker on December 21, 2017, 04:14:12 PM
Hope to reach 7.5k, however 5k would be great, but at the same time worrying.

If 5k support zone is breached, well...

Also, 270k unconfirmed transactions atm. If this increase even more, start seeing people panic because they can't get their bitcoins back. And you now what happen then, fud starts, greater unconfirmed transactions stocking and fees going to the moon.
$5k would make me feel very warm and fuzzy.



284. Post 26734295 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: mfort312 on December 21, 2017, 04:20:34 PM

I don't know why this cracks me up every single time.



285. Post 26734405 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Crypto Zacker on December 21, 2017, 04:31:33 PM
Hope to reach 7.5k, however 5k would be great, but at the same time worrying.

If 5k support zone is breached, well...

Also, 270k unconfirmed transactions atm. If this increase even more, start seeing people panic because they can't get their bitcoins back. And you now what happen then, fud starts, greater unconfirmed transactions stocking and fees going to the moon.
$5k would make me feel very warm and fuzzy.

Of course, however remember that at 5k, btc could lose or see diminished by a lot cryptos’ share dominance, and stop to be used as indexing to the now called "alt coins" (of course I understand that with btc depreciation, we will witness the same behavior on the remain coins).

If that happen, we could see the probable shift that we will witness in the short, mid or long future, coz, apart from bitcoin being the first cryptocurrency, it’s, at its fundamentals, completely surpassed by a lot of other currencies atm.

The consensus on bitcoin's storage of value aspect that’s holding bitcoin appreciation is greatly dependent on the fact of its dominance on market share.

If this equilibrium is seriously contested, you can see a change on the paradigm, that’s why I’m saying that 5k price can be risky. However, I do believe that a healthy crash is obviously needed to bitcoin and to all crypto market, for the sake of its on existence.

The thing is that cryptos are denominated in BTC. So the USD value of most cryptos should drop significantly, unless everything started flowing from Bitcoin into other coins while simultaneously seeing BTC/USD dumps. I don't really see Bitcoin dumping (what we're seeing now is still very far from a dump) without altcoins suffering proportionally. But yes, it would be nice if fees and speed were addressed soon.



286. Post 26738480 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 05:51:02 PM
12345 € @ Kraken!

Count to five...

All that work we spent on memes...spoiled. I bet this was the big short. Wall street, if you are reading this, bite me sideways.

-Eliot
If that was the big short I might just end up wetting myself. I'm expecting it well beyond $1 Trillion in Bitcoin.



287. Post 26739963 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 21, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
That guy that got that little nifty Bitcoin rollercoaster device will be wondering if it can actually move into an upwards position at this point.
I want that device real bad.



288. Post 26740708 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on December 21, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
That guy that got that little nifty Bitcoin rollercoaster device will be wondering if it can actually move into an upwards position at this point.
I want that device real bad.

Me too, even if it stays in the downward position for a bit.  Wink
The longer it goes down the more you can buy!



289. Post 26745305 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 07:47:32 PM
http://bitcoinist.com/cnbc-collusion-roger-ver-bcash/

Mainstream news network CNBC is under intense scrutiny as evidence emerges its senior staff used connections to plug Bitcoin Cash (BCH).


He foreseen this back in 2013 now BCH will be the NEXT MT.GOX.
https://youtu.be/UP1YsMlrfF0

This ain't even about Ver anymore. The corporate community is coming together in perfect harmony to bamboozle people into BCH.
This will ultimately decide if people learned from history or if the masses are still brainded morons who will happily bend over for a single bone before they get boned.



290. Post 26745384 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on December 21, 2017, 08:42:37 PM
Any vets out there caring to calm my nerves with some words of wisdom?


The market is waking up the fact that BTC is digital gold designed to be held and not spent -- that high fees and transaction friction are a feature and not a bug.  The market may reprice BTC as a result.  

My advice as a veteran since $49 is to take some profit if you're well into the green to soothe your nerves, and to make sure you hold at least 1 BCH for every 1 BTC you hold.

Don't hold BCH. Peter is a shill.
And not even a good one.



291. Post 26745919 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: nikauforest on December 21, 2017, 08:50:30 PM
 My advice as a veteran since $49 is to take some profit if you're well into the green to soothe your nerves, and to make sure you hold at least 1 BCH for every 1 BTC you hold.

you sure your advice isn't coming from an ever so slightly different angle? just curious.


I think this is good advice 1 BCH for every 1 BTC.
Maybe if you don't understand what is happening.



292. Post 26746204 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 08:59:25 PM
My advice as a veteran since $49 is to take some profit if you're well into the green to soothe your nerves, and to make sure you hold at least 1 BCH for every 1 BTC you hold.

My advice as a veteran since 2013 is to dump all your BCH for BTC and tell Peter R. and jbreher to fuck off.

Notice how those two shills show up on the forum as a tag team. Probably two accounts held by the same person.

So where's realr0ach?
They pretty much only show up during the BTrash attacks as well, along with the low activity sock puppets.



293. Post 26746362 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 09:04:15 PM
If by "shill" you mean someone who has volunteered thousands of hours and years of my life to help grow Bitcoin into a global peer-to-peer electronic cash system, then here are some of the ways I've "shilled":

1. In 2014, I developed the first ECDSA signing tool capable of signing Bitcoin transactions offline over an air-gap by drawing power from the NFC field [video].

2. In 2015, I co-founded (and still co-manage) the first peer-reviewed scholarly journal for Bitcoin and blockchain research, Ledger.  

3. Also in 2015, I did research to demonstrate that a transaction fee market would exist without a block size limit [paper] [video]

4. In 2016, I co-founded Bitcoin Unlimited, which is now a $10 million+ organization that supports Bitcoin research and outreach across the world.

5. Also in 2016, I did research to show that with subchains, bitcoin's transaction capacity could be increased while also providing faster TX verification by miners to users [paper] [video]

6. In 2017, I demonstrated a security weakness in segregated witness [[ur=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY]video[/url]]

7. Also in 2017, I spearheaded the launch of the $3 million "Gigablock Testnet Initiative" and presented our initial result in Stanford [video]

I have done all this to date as a volunteer because I love bitcoin and hope to see it change the world for the better.  

Clinical narcissists tend to overuse the words "I" and "my" in their ramblings because they tend to self-reference alot. You managed to cram it in no less than 10 times.

Please go seek some help.
I actually noticed back in my days at university that the academics who used "I" in their talks instead of "we" or "one" tended to be a complete waste of attention (with very few exceptions). May or may not be related.



294. Post 26746801 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Torque on December 21, 2017, 09:10:51 PM
I actually noticed back in my days at university that the academics who used "I" in their talks instead of "we" or "one" tended to be a complete waste of attention (with very few exceptions). May or may not be related.

Completely related.

Blowhards that are haughty and full of themselves. They overestimate their own intellect, skills, and importance in the world.

Deep down inside they are completely insecure and miserable.
This was my experience as well. As a student it wasn't even possible to ask questions in a friendly discourse without seeing those people heavily offended due to their lack of an answer. Meanwhile the "we/one" camp just either outright said they had no obvious answer or at least tried to provide some possible angles to tackle the questions from, while clearly indicating that they aren't sure. And here I used to believe that university was about honest intellectual discourse before I got there, but oh well.



295. Post 26746827 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: ragnar0k on December 21, 2017, 09:13:55 PM
If by "shill" you mean someone who has volunteered thousands of hours and years of my life to help grow Bitcoin into a global peer-to-peer electronic cash system, then here are some of the ways I've "shilled":

1. In 2014, I developed the first ECDSA signing tool capable of signing Bitcoin transactions offline over an air-gap by drawing power from the NFC field [video].

2. In 2015, I co-founded (and still co-manage) the first peer-reviewed scholarly journal for Bitcoin and blockchain research, Ledger.  

3. Also in 2015, I did research to demonstrate that a transaction fee market would exist without a block size limit [paper] [video]

4. In 2016, I co-founded Bitcoin Unlimited, which is now a $10 million+ organization that supports Bitcoin research and outreach across the world.

5. Also in 2016, I did research to show that with subchains, bitcoin's transaction capacity could be increased while also providing faster TX verification by miners to users [paper] [video]

6. In 2017, I demonstrated a security weakness in segregated witness [video]

7. Also in 2017, I spearheaded the launch of the $3 million "Gigablock Testnet Initiative" and presented our initial result in Stanford [video]

I have done all this to date as a volunteer because I love bitcoin and hope to see it change the world for the better.  

Roger Ver's CV is a lot better Smiley
Can't beat some good old jailtime.



296. Post 26747170 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 21, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
If by "shill" you mean someone who has volunteered thousands of hours and years of my life to help grow Bitcoin into a global peer-to-peer electronic cash system, then here are some of the ways I've "shilled":

1. In 2014, I developed the first ECDSA signing tool capable of signing Bitcoin transactions offline over an air-gap by drawing power from the NFC field [video].

2. In 2015, I co-founded (and still co-manage) the first peer-reviewed scholarly journal for Bitcoin and blockchain research, Ledger.  

3. Also in 2015, I did research to demonstrate that a transaction fee market would exist without a block size limit [paper] [video]

4. In 2016, I co-founded Bitcoin Unlimited, which is now a $10 million+ organization that supports Bitcoin research and outreach across the world.

5. Also in 2016, I did research to show that with subchains, bitcoin's transaction capacity could be increased while also providing faster TX verification by miners to users [paper] [video]

6. In 2017, I demonstrated a security weakness in segregated witness [video]

7. Also in 2017, I spearheaded the launch of the $3 million "Gigablock Testnet Initiative" and presented our initial result in Stanford [video]

I have done all this to date as a volunteer because I love bitcoin and hope to see it change the world for the better.  

Roger Ver's CV is a lot better Smiley


Indeed.  

Roger Ver has done a huge amount to further Bitcoin adoption.  Perhaps more than anyone else besides Satoshi Nakamoto.  He truly loves Bitcoin and wants to see all of the world adopt it.  That people now abuse him for trying to fix the problem of high fees and unreliable confirmations is heart-breaking for me.
You don't actually believe this bullshit, do you?



297. Post 26747228 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 21, 2017, 09:25:30 PM

[ ... ]

I have done all this to date as a volunteer because I love bitcoin and hope to see it change the world for the better.  

Do you honestly think that the motives of Jihan Wu and Roger Ver are to change the world for the better? Really? Have you followed their actions and their modus operandi? And you have decided to side with them and support Bcash? If that is true, then I'm afraid you are self-disrespecting your own achievements. It's sad, really...

I communicate directly with both of them, have met both in person and had lengthy discussions with each.  I believe they love Bitcoin for the same three reasons I do:

1. The technology behind bitcoin is interesting and novel; Satoshi solved a long-standing problem in computer science.
2. The adoption of Bitcoin would change the world for the better, by giving us a better form of money.
3. The potential to earn of a huge amount of money.
The fact that you didn't mention decentralization with a single word just shows that you're not to be trusted by anybody who came into Bitcoin for the reasons Satoshi has created it for. Thanks for making it even more apparent that BCash can not be trusted.



298. Post 26747499 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 21, 2017, 09:28:47 PM

[ ... ]

I have done all this to date as a volunteer because I love bitcoin and hope to see it change the world for the better.  

Do you honestly think that the motives of Jihan Wu and Roger Ver are to change the world for the better? Really? Have you followed their actions and their modus operandi? And you have decided to side with them and support Bcash? If that is true, then I'm afraid you are self-disrespecting your own achievements. It's sad, really...

I communicate directly with both of them, have met both in person and had lengthy discussions with each.  I believe they love Bitcoin for the same three reasons I do:

1. The technology behind bitcoin is interesting and novel; Satoshi solved a long-standing problem in computer science.
2. The adoption of Bitcoin would change the world for the better, by giving us a better form of money.
3. The potential to earn of a huge amount of money.
The fact that you didn't mention decentralization with a single word just shows that you're not to be trusted by anybody who came into Bitcoin for the reasons Satoshi has created it for. Thanks for making it even more apparent that BCash can not be trusted.

Decentralization is a means to an end.  That end is simply better money
Apparently better money means fucking over people through lies and manipulation in an even easier way than before to you. Very enlightening.



299. Post 26747751 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 09:38:16 PM
Peter - answer the question:  who does Jihan Wu report to?

Putin!

No, wait,  that's Vitalik...


Jihan Wu controls Bcash.  There is a Chinese Communist Party member on Bitmain’s board of supervisors.  Why don’t you Bcash shills do a little research into who really controls your coin.

I suspect there may be legislation in China that requires that every China-based company to have a Chinese Communist Party member on their board. This is true in Malaysia, where every company owner is required to have a Malay member in their company, even though the owner may be Chinese Malaysian. Unfair, but that's the law there.

Correct. 10 points.

The reason those Communist Party members sit on the board is to ensure that the objectives of the company are harmonious with the objectives of the Party, and the Chinese State more generally.   As it is a Board of Supervisors, they have the power to remove and replace all members of management.  Meaning they can dismiss Jihan Wu from his position at any time.  And Jihan Wu notionally controls Bcash.  

Why don’t you let that sink in a little bit.

But centralized shit coin cheaper, move faster. Therefore better money.  /s
Cheaper and faster for all of a few hours before turning into garbage.



300. Post 26748212 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Gab0 on December 21, 2017, 09:51:01 PM
Wow, nice discussion, but very emotional for my. At any moment, Torque and company start slapping and scratching.


IT'S NOT BCASH



301. Post 26748236 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 21, 2017, 09:51:56 PM
It is that fear that keeps me from shifting more of my BTC holdings to BCH.  

Same fear that Ver, Wu, and Wright all have.

Such conviction!  And yet everyone should buy the shitcoin! Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Presently I hold 3 BCH per BTC.  It is foolish to put all of your eggs in one basket.  

If you think the vision of "digital gold" will win then maybe you should hold 2 BTC per BCH.  

Don't let your ideology prevent you from making wise investment decisions.  Selling all your BTC or all your BCH is not smart.
There are numerous altcoins that I'll happily diversify into while completely avoiding the rotten apple that is BCash.



302. Post 26749981 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: natewelt on December 21, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Just bought more BCH and LTC. I have plenty of BTC and other alts. First time my BTC stash is under 40% of my crypto holdings. I'm all about diversification...

At this stage there are more old school bitcoiners that sank their battleship in shit coins than there are old schoolers left.  You have the goose that lays the golden egg and you are willingly giving it up.  Not a smart idea.  The internet is a winner takes all economy.

You can't see into the future so I don't know how you can claim it's not a smart idea. So far it has worked out and if I exchange my alts back to BTC I'd have more BTC.

Diversifying is not only smart. It is usually more profitable. Get with the program.

I have insurance, which is mostly Monero and ETH and less than 10% of my portfolio.  This protects me in case of a wipe out event in Bitcoin. But we both know that when the first Bitcoin ETF is announced early next year, Bitcoin will go vertical and your BTC/Alt pairs will collapse, including my Monero and ETH pairs.

I disagree that we both know that will happen. The only alts I own are mostly in the top 25 by market cap and few outliers that I like the concept of so I have faith in them. There's space for alts and master Bitcoin. I'm still HODLING some Bitcoin from 2014 when I got in so I love Bitcoin. I just love diversification and playing the game also it makes life more interesting.

Edit: Also if my alts keep gaining on BTC in terms of their exchange rate I may convert them all back to BTC only time will tell. I don't have an allegiance to one coin. I know many on here do and that's great, but that's not my style.


There are alts with fairly predictable fundamentals and bands of valuations. Those can be used as a hedge without being an "insurance" but a proper investment instead. With a market as irrational as crypto the token values might differ from the actual valuation, but that just creates arbitrage opportunities for those in the know. So the assessment that diversification in crypto means buying an insurance as a premium is patently false.



303. Post 26750338 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 21, 2017, 10:48:08 PM
I don't know any old peeps in crypto spending a dime on BitCH. It's just astroturfing by shills for hire and their following of poor fools.

You seem to be conflating your myopic perspective with objective reality.
Huh, so perfect vision is considered myopic now? Interesting.



304. Post 26751011 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 21, 2017, 10:57:29 PM
I don't know any old peeps in crypto spending a dime on BitCH. It's just astroturfing by shills for hire and their following of poor fools.

You seem to be conflating your myopic perspective with objective reality.
Huh, so perfect vision is considered myopic now? Interesting.

How odd to encounter one so proud to tout their own ignorance.
Funny you might say that. I've just been thinking the same.



305. Post 26751390 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: UnknownHolder on December 21, 2017, 11:19:29 PM


Indeed.  

Roger Ver has done a huge amount to further Bitcoin adoption.  Perhaps more than anyone else besides Satoshi Nakamoto.  He truly loves Bitcoin and wants to see all of the world adopt it.  That people now abuse him for trying to fix the problem of high fees and unreliable confirmations is heart-breaking for me.
You don't actually believe this bullshit, do you?
+1

dont quote trols
Ver said he truly loves Bitcoin so it must be true.



306. Post 26751781 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: UnknownHolder on December 21, 2017, 11:32:21 PM
It is that fear that keeps me from shifting more of my BTC holdings to BCH.  


Presently I hold 3 BCH per BTC.  It is foolish to put all of your eggs in one basket.  

If you think the vision of "digital gold" will win then maybe you should hold 2 BTC per BCH.  

Don't let your ideology prevent you from making wise investment decisions.  Selling all your BTC or all your BCH is not smart.

> Presently I hold 3 BCH per BTC.  It is foolish to put all of your eggs in one basket.  
So you sold BTC and bought BCH and now you are talking your book propaganda. (otherwise you are 1:1)


Everything has been said already, he's just a (bad) shill.



307. Post 26752054 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on December 21, 2017, 11:45:00 PM
You support BCH? Retard or shill, take your pick (and I never thought you were retarded).
Correct assessment.

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 11:41:43 PM
Ok Rosewater, relax, you got this. Breathe. Just a small bump in the road. Fat cats want your coins. Think of the fat cats. Get angry.
Just calculate your net worth in Bitcoins, not in Dollars. Problem solved.



308. Post 26752310 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 21, 2017, 11:51:18 PM
Ok Rosewater, relax, you got this. Breathe. Just a small bump in the road. Fat cats want your coins. Think of the fat cats. Get angry.
Just calculate your net worth in Bitcoins, not in Dollars. Problem solved.
I assume then that you have a million Bitcoins and you plan to make it rain. Problem solved. Smiley
Didn't you want the price to go back up, not down? Wink



309. Post 26754578 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Wolf Rainer on December 22, 2017, 01:21:43 AM
Well done miners, trying to kill bitcoin. The price dumping hard, the fees very hard... Useless network.

https://scontent.faep4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25550166_1682176411821632_4810748985398429631_n.jpg?oh=6dba8439c1975abea5884f05a8ad9f20&oe=5ACFC1DB
This actually makes me wonder how much I paid for fees today. I used arbitrage opportunities to transfer coins between exchanges for some trades and ended up with more coins than I sent out. But I didn't really pay attention to whether or not the fees were significant for the BTC transfers...



310. Post 26754670 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: drbrockcoin on December 22, 2017, 01:31:22 AM
The altcoin market is starting to show a lot of red. This could mean that they are going to crash soon and the money is going to flow to BTC or that they are going to start crashing along side BTC.

Looking at the BTC chart we are stuck in a very well established down channel. I see roughly 4 hits on the support and 4 hits on the resistance. fingers cross we get a bounce off support at 14400, and then a break of resistance at roughly 16000.

One thing that has me concerned about this correction over the other ones this year is the speed. it seems to be a lot slower than the others, I hope this doesn't mean anything.

Well its a possibility but I think maybe a lot of new people coming into alts rather than btc as they see btc as too expensive which means that some not all of them will be thinking long term and ignoring the current price action.

I dont think someone which has just invested say in 5 NEO or whatever coin is going to think about selling because the price starts to drop as its not enough of an investment to warrant worrying about smallish price movements in the short term.

And I suspect there is a lot of people who have entered the scene but have invested less than a 1000 dollars into X-coin and so will not be thinking about selling anytime soon

Also a lot of alts are showing RED because they made significant gains in the past few days so are in a sideways action... Some of them forming bullish pennant flags although like I say in BTC anything can happen
I'm having quite a few green candles in terms of alt/BTC today.



311. Post 26754686 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 22, 2017, 01:32:47 AM
Well done miners, trying to kill bitcoin. The price dumping hard, the fees very hard... Useless network.

https://scontent.faep4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25550166_1682176411821632_4810748985398429631_n.jpg?oh=6dba8439c1975abea5884f05a8ad9f20&oe=5ACFC1DB
This actually makes me wonder how much I paid for fees today. I used arbitrage opportunities to transfer coins between exchanges for some trades and ended up with more coins than I sent out. But I didn't really pay attention to whether or not the fees were significant for the BTC transfers...

Soon it will cost more to send a coin than to buy one. Undecided
Even if that was the case, it'd become virtually free once LN rolls out.



312. Post 26754749 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 22, 2017, 01:34:09 AM
i told you to sell at 20k.

i got insulted for it.

Well i hope it'll bounce to 16k once more to save your skins

Bear season can last a while, hopefully LN will release soon
Again, a bear season would be welcome for my upcoming fiat influx. I don't think anybody really minds some downtrends after going x24 in a single year.



313. Post 26755598 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Syke on December 22, 2017, 02:10:54 AM
Remember the days when Bitcoin had cheaper fees then visa and western union? I think that used to be a big selling point, the idea of banking for the unbanked or something like that... lol

I remember those days. I was much happier when bitcoin was $1 each. I hate having my bitcoins worth $14,500. Damn you all!
I can help you with your pain by buying up your Bitcoins at $1. If that's still too high for you, I could also settle for a lower price. But you'll have to act quickly, my generosity doesn't last forever.



314. Post 26755676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on December 22, 2017, 02:13:44 AM

Why is random nonsense so addictive?



315. Post 26755737 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: John_Slater on December 22, 2017, 02:15:51 AM
I believe it's been only a week above $15k and like 2 weeks above 10k so I can't say it's actually DROPPING
Two weeks feel like forever in crypto. Relativity at its finest.



316. Post 26789938 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

I'll take January 6th.



317. Post 26790002 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 22, 2017, 03:16:38 PM
Well I said wake me up at 10k, and here we are. Merry Christmas!

I guess I should roll down to the ATM and sell some bitcoin. Did that with litecoin 2 weeks ago and the price doubled in hours. Let me know how it works out....

Why, oh why do I always have to be responsible for everything.......
Please wait until Jan 3rd before you sell some Bitcoin.



318. Post 26791973 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: fabiorem on December 22, 2017, 04:27:34 PM
If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.



The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo.

They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now.

Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream.



Once VR becomes fully immersive and people can create arbitrary experiences at will regardless of income nobody will give a shit about money anymore anyways. And that point isn't all that far in the future. So it really doesn't matter what "they" want.



319. Post 26792500 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: cofefeGandalf on December 22, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
The Independent (UK Newspaper) is truly a pathetic excuse for journalism

Quote
"For the average person like me, bitcoin is always a gamble", he told The Independent. "But people are treating it like a punt".

The entrepreneur says he's staying away from bitcoin for now, and may look into alternative cryptocurrencies such as ripple - "something with more substance - but only a little more", although he admits that "substance" isn't the best word for cryptocurrencies at the moment.

Wait, ripple is a cryptocurrency now? lol
Not even.

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 22, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


27/12/2017 bikerleszno
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
08/01/2018 savetherainforrest
09/01/2018 explorer
10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho
11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire
12/01/2018 speedwheel
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
16/01/2018 maca068
17/01/2018 bitcoinvest
18/01/2018 last of the v8s
19/01/2018 mfort312
20/01/2018 1982dre
21/01/2018 flamast2
23/01/2018 willope
24/01/2018 kartala
25/01/2018 orpington
26/01/2018 rolling
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
29/01/2018 CristiTCM
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
02/02/2018 mancroofer
03/02/2018 True Myth
07/02/2018 vapourminer
08/02/2018 alexeft
09/02/2018 siera
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
14/02/2018 Thekool1s
15/02/2018 starmman
16/02/2018 Globb0
17/02/2018 leveldkrypto
18/02/2018 olesh
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
20/02/2018 Paashaas
22/02/2018 icygreen
23/02/2018 erisdiscordia
24/02/2018 phil_s
26/02/2018 Arriemoller
06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
08/03/2018 Imbatman
11/03/2018 badream
13/03/2018 erre
17/03/2018 fragout
18/03/2018 fabiorem
21/03/2018 dakustaking76
01/04/2018 somac.
02/04/2018 kurious
05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny
11/04/2018 hairymaclairy
02/06/2018 oblox
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
18/12/2021 luckygenough56


Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC
The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again
When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25
Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins

LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2012 @ 22.00 cet

AFTER THIS POST NO MORE NEWBIES MINIMUM 50 Posts
I added January 6th on the WO thread, but I guess I'll go with the 5th since it's already taken.



320. Post 26794199 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 22, 2017, 05:13:38 PM
Well I said wake me up at 10k, and here we are. Merry Christmas!

I guess I should roll down to the ATM and sell some bitcoin. Did that with litecoin 2 weeks ago and the price doubled in hours. Let me know how it works out....

Why, oh why do I always have to be responsible for everything.......
Please wait until Jan 3rd before you sell some Bitcoin.
Eh, just $500 of BTC and LTC. However given the fact that the transaction with 10% fees still hasn't cleared, I think it may be the third before I get my money. And thanks to LIFO I can write off the loss against profits this year.

That said, if I don't get the money till next year when do I declare the loss? At the time bitcoins left my control, or at the time I get the money to control in fiat? This is a complex question, I should call the IRS (who at this point is probably so sick and tired of my questions they might ask if I have considered just moving to another country, they're all the same really.....)
I told you to wait. My portfolio is climbing back up, if I don't get any ~$10k Bitcoins in 2 weeks I'll blame you!  Angry Angry Angry

Also, move to another country.



321. Post 26794266 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on December 22, 2017, 05:22:42 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


27/12/2017 bikerleszno
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
05/12/2017 BTCMILLIONAIRE
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
You added me for 05/12, which has long passed. Cheesy I meant January 5th, please do correct! Thanks.



322. Post 26795901 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Wekkel on December 22, 2017, 05:43:45 PM
Major alts are still at levels seen before their final pump so I still call it a correction. But a severe one.

On the scale of 5 years, this will just be a blip. The brave accumulate now. The broke (like me) HODL.
I was hoping for a correction after I get more fiat, so I'm just hodling now too and praying that it'll last for two weeks. But unfortunately lightfoot decided to go and withdraw some coins at the ATM. Angry Angry Angry




323. Post 26800128 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: 600watt on December 22, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
GF's out at a lesbian bar, BTC crashing WHY AM I HOLDING?


 Cool
When she comes back you'll have two GFs, and more moneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Cool



324. Post 26800168 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 22, 2017, 07:16:25 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


Jan 5 2018.
I already snatched that, better update before all other good dates are taken. Cheesy



325. Post 26800207 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 22, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Get ready for the next leg down, resistance will be at $5000 - $7000!

I do believe, sir, that your are overflowing with bovine-fecal-matter.
I wouldn't mind if he wasn't. That would mean around 3 extra coins next weekish.



326. Post 26806773 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on December 22, 2017, 07:58:23 PM
Today most of us are getting near-to-death experience again and again. But wasn't this dump expected? This was in fact much required and much expected as well, for stability of bitcoin's further rise. Nothing in the world just goes up and more up, with any correction. These corrections (big or small) are the requirement of time, and we're having them now. So it's good.

Though I don't think so that bitcoin is gonna go less than $10,000. The current dump should be enough of correction.
Been in this for too long to really get fazed much anymore. It was actually quite entertaining to see a small fortune being wiped out of my portfolio over night. Perhaps I'd get an NDE if we went down like 99% though... that would hurt.



327. Post 26806798 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: natewelt on December 22, 2017, 10:51:32 PM
Liquidity in the altcoin market officially dies Jan 1st:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-22/trumps-tax-bill-may-be-reason-crypto-rout

But that news is also bad for bitcoin as a lot of the bitcoin demand was for gambling in places like the Poloniex casino, so it lowers liquidity for the entire crypto market.

I don't think many traders/investors/HODLERS actually know what a like kind exchange is so I don't think this is the reason for the route.

You're crazy.  The BTC market is controlled by a VERY small number of people moving large amounts of cash.  As soon as bitcoin topped out, the same money that was used to pump BTC was all shifted into altcoins at Poloniex.  These are entities like Pantera capital, Goldman Sachs, etc, constantly going back and forth between coins like BTC and Ethereum.  The people who are actually moving these markets are all utilizing that loophole.  It doesn't matter what the small fish know.

You act like tax law is clear hear when it's definitely NOT.

Taking the position that these transactions qualify as a LKEs is an extremely aggressive position to take tax wise. I sure as hell wouldn't take it.
Offshore and double tax treaties weeee. Or just expat and get over with it.



328. Post 26807930 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: bones261 on December 22, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Today most of us are getting near-to-death experience again and again. But wasn't this dump expected? This was in fact much required and much expected as well, for stability of bitcoin's further rise. Nothing in the world just goes up and more up, with any correction. These corrections (big or small) are the requirement of time, and we're having them now. So it's good.

Though I don't think so that bitcoin is gonna go less than $10,000. The current dump should be enough of correction.
Been in this for too long to really get fazed much anymore. It was actually quite entertaining to see a small fortune being wiped out of my portfolio over night. Perhaps I'd get an NDE if we went down like 99% though... that would hurt.

Indeed. The vast majority of us bought in triple figures (or less....).  This is just amusing. 

I've already got a return on my investment fiat wise. However, watching my net worth plummet by thousands was not pleasant at all.  Cheesy Oh well, keep plugging away with mining shitcoins with my 1070.  Cool
I find it highly entertaining. Watching years of salaries disappear and reappear in the blink of an eye is just a lot of fun to me for some reason. Cheesy

I've been thinking of setting up a huuuuge LCD screen as a "painting above the fireplace" kind of thing, that visualizes my crypto portfolio. If I ever got to a point where millions just disappear and reappear every few minutes I'll probably just have to bite the bullet and do it. Maybe some guests would end up getting heart attacks watching it, who knows. Cheesy



329. Post 26808778 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: Dabs on December 22, 2017, 11:21:11 PM
Well ... I doubled my bitcorns ....

hats off, that, by definition, takes some serious gonads

Thanks.. It wasn't much. Just single digit, now double digits. This happens only once every two or three years, or I've managed to only do it twice so far.

I make more bouncing around the alts.
I much prefer bouncing around alts as well. That also avoids some other... less pleasant issues.



330. Post 26809056 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: TERA2 on December 22, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
Are you referring to like kind tax rule?  I wonder if that applied to USDT as well? Either way its going away in the coming tax plan.
Among other things (fiat is just a pita to deal with). There are some other loopholes though, which I'd assume would only apply in a very limited way in the US, if at all.



331. Post 26809197 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: rolling on December 23, 2017, 12:12:59 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.



332. Post 26809433 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: rolling on December 23, 2017, 12:16:01 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Does not apply to US citizens unless you give up your citizenship.
Sounds like a good trade to me.



333. Post 26809509 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: samson on December 23, 2017, 12:25:28 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Does not apply to US citizens unless you give up your citizenship.

That's right, you still have to pay !
That's really just another reason to renounce citizenship.

Does the US not have double taxation treaties though? In some places you can just create an offshore company, tax your profits in a different legislation, and then be exempt from further taxes under your own legislation due to the treaty as you've "already paid them" (even if the taxes are as low as 2% or even 0%).



334. Post 26809846 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: rolling on December 23, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
There is really no good loophole. They have locked it all down. What you describe would be a "Controlled Foreign Corporation" which has it's own issues. Giving up citizenship has an exit tax plus they will still come after you years later if they find out you didn't pay what you owed.

All the more reason to leave as soon as possible. I wouldn't want to be held hostage for the rest of my life.

Quote from: itod on December 23, 2017, 12:36:00 AM
Does the US not have double taxation treaties though? In some places you can just create an offshore company, tax your profits in a different legislation, and then be exempt from further taxes under your own legislation due to the treaty as you've "already paid them" (even if the taxes are as low as 2% or even 0%).

That's why a lot of rich people all over the world choose Monaco for the residence. They pay lover income taxes there and don't pay in their domicile country. Nobody pay's income tax twice, can't believe it's current US law.
Probably because most people just bend over and do as told. Stockholm syndrome much?


Quote from: nikauforest on December 23, 2017, 12:31:41 AM
I was a US citizen. I gave it up in 2014, the tax laws are just too complicated. Simple honest mistakes can generate huge fines.
Well, not like the tax system was created to help out honest people who desire a simple life in the first place.



335. Post 26809894 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: mfort312 on December 23, 2017, 12:42:16 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Not so easy or simple, unfortunately. Have you heard of the Exit Tax? Capital gains are realized for high net worth individuals upon renouncing.

You still owe cap gains if you don't renounce and just expat. Unless you plan on just hiding and never setting foot in US again nor using any international banks cooperating with FinCen rules.

Puerto Rico offers tax free cap gains for residents, but you still owe on any gains realized up to the date you become a resident.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/02/27/renounce-u-s-heres-how-irs-computes-exit-tax/#45c8627287d4

No, I actually haven't heard of the exit tax. It does make sense to some degree, or at least it would if taxes were legitimate in the first place. But regardless of whether or not you'd choose to pay what you "owe" before renouncing, it still doesn't sound like anyone who expects any significant profits should be staying in the US any longer than absolutely necessary for whatever individual circumstances.



336. Post 26810341 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.34h):

Quote from: mfort312 on December 23, 2017, 12:58:42 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Not so easy or simple, unfortunately. Have you heard of the Exit Tax? Capital gains are realized for high net worth individuals upon renouncing.

You still owe cap gains if you don't renounce and just expat. Unless you plan on just hiding and never setting foot in US again nor using any international banks cooperating with FinCen rules.

Puerto Rico offers tax free cap gains for residents, but you still owe on any gains realized up to the date you become a resident.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/02/27/renounce-u-s-heres-how-irs-computes-exit-tax/#45c8627287d4

No, I actually haven't heard of the exit tax. It does make sense to some degree, or at least it would if taxes were legitimate in the first place. But regardless of whether or not you'd choose to pay what you "owe" before renouncing, it still doesn't sound like anyone who expects any significant profits should be staying in the US any longer than absolutely necessary for whatever individual circumstances.

Agreed. However, I'm suspecting you're not married or have many close family relations in the US? The moment I brought up renouncing to my wife, and that she would need to apply for visas to visit family, friends, etc., well... you can imagine the response. Although she's warming up to it proportionally to crypto value.

Which begs the question, how much is US citizenship worth? A US passport gets you in a lot of places without visas or trouble. Attaining citizenship in another country takes time and often a good deal of (traceable, taxable) fiat. Although being stateless is an option, it's not recommended for long. You have no rights, anywhere.



Can't your wife just live with you while you "make all the money" as a renounced citizen? That way you wouldn't have to tax your profits, and she could visit her relatives without any issues.

And no, I don't live in the US so that's not a concern for me. And my family would follow me blindly if I asked them to and told them that I'd take care of everything.

And really, considering that the lowest CGT rate is 20% in the US I'd take the money and apply for visas over keeping citizenship to a mess of a country. There are other countries that have "free passes" to most relevant places and low taxes too, although I don't know how difficult it would be for an US citizen to get citizenship there. I'd imagine it can't be too bad.



337. Post 26826230 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: flynn on December 23, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Actually I like pretty much to read whats JJG has to say.

All the others OT things misleading about fees or talking about shitalts not much.
Seconded.

Was thinking of joining in, but I'm too sleepy to bother (about to drive to the family over the holidays and way outside of my usual waking hours).



338. Post 26826818 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on December 23, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Since exaggerating blockchain stuff is doable...  Roll Eyes

All my numbers I've posted are real.

You are the one that is grossly full of shit <3.

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on December 23, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

Good luck with all your shit posts and I pray that people can see through "you peoples" shit.



339. Post 26827903 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.35h):

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on December 23, 2017, 11:01:58 AM
I'm a big fucking boy and I'll put myself to bed when I'm god damn well ready...
<snip of Archer picture>

let me guess, it's friday night end of week before christmas hols and you hit the bottle early ... dropped some pills and bubble the bong, your missus has hit the hay without you and your holed up in the man-cave nursing a serious buzz on your own and it's getting late for your age ... so you hop on-line and look around for cats to kick to let off some steam??

Wrong.

I paid $165 to send $181 and I'm here to kick cats to blow off steam off over that.
  https://blockchain.info/tx/30f824f4233ef331c12864bf3237c9a785b0e55a4c26bf3638aa9fbc8b067ebf

Bitcoin Core wallet gives the same estimate for 2 block fees as 7 day fees  Roll Eyes  I'd imagine this is due to the miner's manipulative spam for profit.

The "faucet" industry is taking a POUNDING right now... FreeBitco.in is having payment troubles because of all of this and Coinpot.co is as well... I'd imagine there is going to be a flood of pissed off little gay faucet users shortly.  
Paying high fees and then shilling for the dickweeds that caused them in the first place. Roll Eyes



340. Post 28332039 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Back from the holidays. How has everybody in here been?

Did I miss anything major other than BCC finally popping and JP Morgan going on a market manipulation buying spree again?



341. Post 28333710 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Below 10k on Stamp.

....annnnd it's back up.
.......and it's back down. Seems like I'm getting my discount coins, although later than I was hoping for initially. Glad I kept my bonuses in fiat until now. Time to start easing in soon.



342. Post 28333908 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Wekkel on January 17, 2018, 02:37:25 PM
All those poor people selling at the bottom  Roll Eyes
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0afc477b07f432ad60079794cc3f7f12



343. Post 28334003 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
Ima catch this falling knife like a mofo.
Just a little longer.



344. Post 28334255 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: mike4001 on January 17, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
Didn't epect 10k to get broken.

I won't sell but I am not optimistic right now if this will recover in the next months/years.
Too much momentum to go into another 2-3 year drought.



345. Post 28334319 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on January 17, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
no worries folks.. just go all in on
GBCGoldCoin
(finding the green amongst the red in times like these, just for a shiggle....)
sometimes I wonder wtf  CMC is thinking listing this shit...

ok then! back to the shitshow....
Holy fuck, 1000% gains!! Buy! Even has a staggeringly high volume of $175! Roll Eyes



346. Post 28334796 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: BlackMambaPH on January 17, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
look out for the multi million buy walls getting placed now  Roll Eyes


20 k tommorow  Cool

You're giving me some hope to still hodl my bitcoin. But I'm still in the situation that scared in lost income.

Imagine that I brought at 14K per bitcoin and now 9K per bitcoin sound scary right.
Doesn't sound scary to me. Slightly displeasing, but not scary. If it crashed even further you shouldn't have too much of a problem with it because you shouldn't invest more than you can afford to burn. And on the contrary it just means riding out the wave with full confidence in your own decisions.



347. Post 28336222 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Elix9 on January 17, 2018, 03:04:49 PM
guys... always the same movemente Look at chart, see history, the same. Always we have Dump -50% and in one month back +100% Pump We can see it January 2016, January 2017, July 2017, September 2017, November 2017. Look the chart. Dont panic, dont lost money, be smart, just hold and wait, big profit is coming. 2018 will be a BIG $ year to all Cryptos

There hasn't been a 50% or greater drop since the ATL. The "safety net" has been pierced, and we're likely to require a much longer period of consolidation before the resumption of the great bull. Hopefully we'll be looking at a year or less.



Check out Real-Crypto's channel on YT, he's had some pretty good analysis the past few weeks. He predicted we were about to enter a bear market and that it might last a year or two before growth begins again.
I have a very hard time seeing a year or two long bear market at this point. Not that it matters since I mostly value invest in ICOs anyways and know quite well where the bottom of my portfolio will be at different points in time.



348. Post 28336404 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2018, 03:08:54 PM
Ima catch this falling knife like a mofo.
Just a little longer.

Looking at the Bitstamp 1d chart, it's more obvious that this artificial pump really got started on 11/24/2017 @ ~$8k. That also coincided with the media ramp up. So it's safe to assume that if the pumping started there, then the dumping will end there as well or fairly close to it.
I could see it going just a tad lower due to psychological human nonsense, but that's pretty much where the dump should at the very least start losing its momentum.



349. Post 28337445 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: HanvanBitcoin on January 17, 2018, 03:20:53 PM
The bounce of this one will be brutal  Shocked Grin

Indeed. it will be epic. But still need to trigger my order at €7600,- before it happens Grin

It's funny how everyone is going banana's with every dump.  Cool
ftfy Wink



350. Post 28337514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2018, 03:28:47 PM
All I can say is thank the gods this didn't shoot up to something like $40-50k.

The drop would have been so much worse.
I wouldn't mind since I was getting ready to launch a medium sized mining operation for that scenario. But this pattern works just as well. Just need to plan ahead for different scenarios and it won't really matter what happens. There's money to be made in every situation.



351. Post 28337954 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: rafanadal on January 17, 2018, 03:33:58 PM
Jesus Christ. We're going to test $9k, aren't we Sad

This is going all the way down to 1k
If it actually did I'd be selling my house and moving into a tiny flat to ride it out.



352. Post 28338340 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

Quote from: 1982dre on January 17, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
I’m eating a late lunch, sipping champagne & even I will admit this is fucking terrible. I won’t be able to retire for at least another two or three years at this rate.

Let me stress to all those panicking though - You haven’t lost anything if you don’t sell - 1 bitcoin is still 1 bitcoin. HODL & you will be greatly rewarded after the next halving.

Why HODL if you can sell and re-enter at a better price?

I tried that before and every time after i sold some, the price started rising.   Huh
Yeah, just hodl. No point in triggering taxable events when you don't know exactly what's going to happen.



353. Post 28338847 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Elix9 on January 17, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
I’m eating a late lunch, sipping champagne & even I will admit this is fucking terrible. I won’t be able to retire for at least another two or three years at this rate.

Let me stress to all those panicking though - You haven’t lost anything if you don’t sell - 1 bitcoin is still 1 bitcoin. HODL & you will be greatly rewarded after the next halving.

Why HODL if you can sell and re-enter at a better price?

I tried that before and every time after i sold some, the price started rising.   Huh

HODL makes sense for small corrections, but something like this - should have gotten out yesterday and look for a place to re-enter. There's plenty of room for margin of error.
You never know when there's going to be a small correction or "something like this". And taxes are a very real and substantial cost in most countries. If you flunk your exit and re-entry you'll end up losing more in tax than you would've earned with the short.



354. Post 28338918 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2018, 03:49:06 PM
Wow went down to 9200

Look at the bright side, it is still

over 9000!!!!
Why jynx it?

Also, funny how this meme is more relevant now than it was on the way up. $9000 just got evaporated in the bull run.



355. Post 28339200 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on January 17, 2018, 03:54:22 PM
HODL makes sense for small corrections, but something like this - should have gotten out yesterday and look for a place to re-enter. There's plenty of room for margin of error.

What's the point of selling now like an headless chicken in panic? The time to sell was in the 19K, or at least at the first bounce in the 16K. You would sell now expecting how much further downside?
Single digit $ Bitcoins, weeeee Roll Eyes



356. Post 28339262 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: rafanadal on January 17, 2018, 03:54:50 PM


and once ppl figure out it's useless as a payment system
it will be worth that much 9 years from now

dumped all your bitcoins too early did we?

nope
and i am freaking out at the moment
Read up on LightningNetwork. Bitcoin will be the most efficient way to send money around once it rolls out. Good things need time, time which BCash was not willing to invest in a viable solution.



357. Post 28339289 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: EtherCoin on January 17, 2018, 03:56:22 PM

After reading CNBC today saying that "Tether was the only cryptocurrency that was resisting the crash" you can expect anything really.

Eth.
I'm dead, is this for real?



358. Post 28340729 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: EtherCoin on January 17, 2018, 04:02:47 PM
Here, direct link: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/16/cryptocurrency-sell-off-tether-faring-better-than-rest.html

They mention the pegged nature, still hilarious header.

Eth.
Meme level header for sure.

Quote from: Lopumbo on January 17, 2018, 04:16:55 PM
Just think of a bitcoin like a used car that you're getting shit offers for, but you know that it's worth way more.

Q: $14k? $12k? $10k? $8k?
A: Nope

Good that we both agree here, that BTC should be at 1000$, the value at which it was useable as a P2P-currency
It's more about how many people are using it right now than what the current price was back then.



359. Post 28340840 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 17, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
CNN and CNBC are both a bunch of imbecilic liberal douchebag dumbasses.

That CNN Jim Acosta douchebag is like a 2 year old:
"Mr, president did you say shithole, did you say shithole? did you say shithole? did you say shithole?"
-"Out!"
*goes on Twitter*
"Wehhhh the president was mean to me. Wehhhh."

The way they report and behave at least the dumbass liberal media in the USA deserve a 1000 year Trump presidency.


Do you have a link to that interview? I feel like committing sudoku by laughter while I'm still at it from the CNBC article.



360. Post 28341292 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 17, 2018, 04:26:47 PM
CNN and CNBC are both a bunch of imbecilic liberal douchebag dumbasses.

That CNN Jim Acosta douchebag is like a 2 year old:
"Mr, president did you say shithole, did you say shithole? did you say shithole? did you say shithole?"
-"Out!"
*goes on Twitter*
"Wehhhh the president was mean to me. Wehhhh."

The way they report and behave at least the dumbass liberal media in the USA deserve a 1000 year Trump presidency.


Do you have a link to that interview? I feel like committing sudoku by laughter while I'm still at it from the CNBC article.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxpweCZpkqw
Thank you!



361. Post 28342473 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 17, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
That economist cover is very intriguing.  Shocked
But is it shooped (the date at least).



362. Post 28342854 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: yefi on January 17, 2018, 04:50:59 PM
Do you have a link to that interview? I feel like committing sudoku by laughter while I'm still at it from the CNBC article.

Think you mean seppuku; sudoku is a number puzzle.
Nope, I meant sudoku. It comes from the Japanese word 須独 which roughly means "necessarily poison" (to death).

Just bsing sorry



363. Post 28343159 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: tonyq on January 17, 2018, 04:56:36 PM
About 40 percent of bitcoin is held by perhaps 1,000 users

This is what is wrong with the  bitcoin world.
First come first serve. And then things redistribute to those who are the best at gaming whatever system the resource is confined within.

That's just the fundamental nature of reality, and not something that is wrong with anything.

People can nag about wealth distribution all they want, but fact is that anybody who isn't physically constrained against their will has the opportunity to create just about any kind of life for themselves.



364. Post 28343531 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 17, 2018, 05:04:59 PM
WHO SODL THE BOTTOM ?!???
Probably just about everyone who bought the top. Cheesy



365. Post 28343795 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: rafanadal on January 17, 2018, 05:08:54 PM
Is the nightmare over yet ?
The nightmare is being out of fiat to buy the Bitcoin sale, right?



366. Post 28345556 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on January 17, 2018, 05:33:34 PM
on the plus side, lots of overpumped garbage has been purged.

BEE CONNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT WEEEEEEE

Quote from: itod on January 17, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
True story:

My daughter knows that I'm in Bitcoin, and today she asked me if I know that bitcoin is crashing, she saw it somewhere online. I told her that I know, and without me explaining anything about it, she gathered half of her savings and asked me isn't it now good time to buy and can I help her do it?

Makes daddy proud. HODLer by nature.

What was your answer?

Explained to her that it can go to $0, but on the other side what BTC can become. She said she is fine with chances to go to $0, and then I bought for her.
Smart girl. Good job.



367. Post 28347212 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 17, 2018, 05:52:58 PM
I'm not sure what's going on. Why isn't there more buying pressure? sub $8k seems very cheap to me

I think you'd be surprised how little money from retail investors was the cause of the actual rally during the month of Dec. The whale pump money probably outnumbered Average Joe money like 100:1.

Which also means this isn't Average Joe panick selling, it is whale(s) shorting.

Nobody in his right mind buyin something that has gone 20x for no reason at all , other than to play on very short term bounces

sorry for broken english

Your English is fine. It's your perception that needs work. With so many new participants streaming into the space, a rapid rise was inevitable. As is the correction. As will be the subsequent recovery and the next skyward burst.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear



368. Post 28347286 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 17, 2018, 06:09:04 PM
This crash, er correction, er whatever it is really sets things up well for the rest of the year.

So many newbs, naysayers, and casual mom and pops out there who have been thinking about dipping a toe into Bitcoin definitely won't now. They'll have a laugh now and it will fade, and they will completely put Bitcoin out of their mind.

And then they will again be shocked when it takes off to the moon again later on this year or next. I almost feel bad for the people who just can't seem to win because they believe they are smarter than everyone else already involved.
Just almost though. There really isn't anything new going on and the same patterns existed in every market that has ever emerged.



369. Post 28350029 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: infofront on January 17, 2018, 06:44:04 PM
Oh my. Just got an email from one of my old "hot-shot-investor-type" acquaintances that is telling me he is thinking about shorting BTC.

At sub $10k.

...

My partner is literally facepalming himself right now.

It's real quiet out here in the wilderness, by the way. No coyote sightings yet.

BOB, I SEE BTC IS NEAR ROCK BOTTOM NOW. GOOD TIME TO SHORT?
Short at $8k. Too bad the leveraged shorting ETFs didn't come out. Would've been perfect timing.



370. Post 28352881 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 17, 2018, 07:08:38 PM
Your English is fine. It's your perception that needs work. With so many new participants streaming into the space, a rapid rise was inevitable. As is the correction. As will be the subsequent recovery and the next skyward burst.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear

Of course I'm a bear. Doesn't exclude me from being a bull. Just stop it with the species-ism. Wink
I'm sorry. Sad

Quote from: thrax on January 17, 2018, 07:31:48 PM
I had a look at Notlambchop’s post history. Doesn’t look sufficiently literate to be an FT journalist.  More of a word salad type like Roach.  We do have a track record of attracting the mentally ill.  But I’m sure it’s worse elsewhere.

Looking at his posts put things into perspective for me. Three years ago he was predicting $80 coins. Three years later we will think it's the end of the world if bitcoin crashes back to $8000.
For some people it's the end of the world right now already.




371. Post 28389940 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Biro Bob on January 18, 2018, 10:08:44 AM
This isn’t the crash I was promised.

I sold all my coins at $9222 because they were no longer valuable. I’ll buy them again when they’re really worth something. Maybe in March at a new ATH seems a good buy point. I don’t want to miss out....
I was hoping for $6-8k. I missed out on restocking by being greedy. Sad



372. Post 28392427 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: TERA2 on January 18, 2018, 10:15:52 AM
This is how noobs actually think. The higher the price the more it needs to be bought. I had one literally tell me they were afraid of missing out. They watched ripple go from $0.25 to $3.25 and suddenly at the top urgently wanted to get in because they 'couldnt stand it anymore' and were 'going to miss out'.
Yeah, I've personally warned a few friends not to buy into XRP when it ballooned beyond $1.50 and $2 and urged them to sell since $2.50 onward. Needless to say, they did not want to listen and are still holding their Ripple at substantial losses. Can't say I haven't tried.



373. Post 28393019 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on January 18, 2018, 11:04:05 AM
Woah, look at all that green! Went to sleep for a couple of hours and BTC is back in the saddle and all but 2 coins in the top 100 are in the green.
Congrats to everyone that bought the dip and shame on every weak hand that thought the sky was falling. If you sold at the bottom you will likely do it again.


hey...I resemble that remark! (panic sold like wimp....it was LTC to pay the tax man etc...but still ..wimp)

Then again I retired on Monday ..when things went to hell...so it is my fault for the crypto crash...so sold at the low (LTC) to restore proper Karma

you are welcome!



No insult intended. Sometimes you gotta pay the bills when timing couldn't be worse - at the low. Knowing full well you just paid twice as much as was needed.

Thank you for your offering to the crypto gods. (Is there a name for it? Maybe honeybadger?). It has been received.


We're weak ass ratt hands! Don't sugarcoat our failure.
This. You're not really meant to have money that you need for bills in any class of assets in the first place. So having to withdraw is, in most cases, just a result of poor investment decisions. There are very few exceptions which are so extraordinarily rare that they won't even apply to the vast majority of people who "had to withdraw money" unless they fucked up and put in way too much to begin with. Like that guy on Twitter who took out a mortgage on his house during the Bitcoin peak and put it all in even though he has a family and kids.



374. Post 28401542 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: criptix on January 18, 2018, 01:15:43 PM
should i request a paid article on CNBC?

Whole cryptocurrency market is green while Tether is the only digital currency in red?

RIP USD
I've also found an article about Ethereum being "below $1000 again" on some random MSM site on my phone earlier today. And it came out pretty much just before it returned to above $1000. Media is quite a strange phenomenon these days.



375. Post 28402674 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 18, 2018, 01:28:06 PM
Every article I read on CNBC.com is wrong. Not just about Bitcoin, but about the economy in general. All corps and businesses are painted as being in full recovery mode, whilst crypto is painted as a space that is teetering on the edge of collapse any day now.

Completely backwards.

Of course the agenda is to get Average Joe back into the equities markets full steam.... the last bag holders when the stock market finally tanks a few years from now. Meanwhile Wallstreet will quietly hedge into the crypto space, and it'll skyrocket during the coming equity market meltdown. There's a reason why the Bitcoin futures market was created, and there will be the same reasons for the coming Bitcoin ETFs. It's not for Average Joe's benefit.
Hopefully cryptos won't even think of entering a recession before the stock market collapses. Been slowly easing out of some of my stocks in favour of cryptos for a number of months now and want some discounted stocks before cryptos plummet.

Also, inb4 Trump will be at fault when equities crash.



376. Post 28404625 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 18, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
As far as Bitcoin goes, I think that on the down low Wallstreet has seriously been moving forward with plans to make Bitcoin a legit hedge instrument. A "non-correlated asset" similar to Gold, but not as tied to anything, not as collateralized and re-hypothecated, as other hedge instruments are. It's finally at a market cap size and maturity where they believe it is ready to be taken to the next step.

But publicly, they are trying to paint Bitcoin as a risky pump-and-dump scheme that is in line with other risky market assets. They want Average Joe to stay away from it while they get all the machinery in place to leverage it themselves (i.e., futures, ETFs, etc.) But of course insiders know this already, which is why the price has climbed all last year as they can't resist getting in early. They can't hide that accumulation because it's a thin market with a lot of transparency and not much Bitcoin off exchange to be bought.

That's why when I keep saying 'Wallstreet wants your bitcoin', I mean no really WALLSTREET WANTS YOUR BITCOIN.
Do you expect it to actually be uncorrelated though? I could easily see equity money fleeing into cryptos (alongside of gold) once it inevitably pulls back. At least if crypto doesn't somehow crash before that, which doesn't seem highly probable right now.

I agree with the overall sentiment though, I'm exposing myself to as much crypto as I possibly can without compromising my retirement status and have no intention of exiting. Even if perhaps not the best move from an investment/capital conserving perspective, I prefer positioning myself with what I believe in (which is decentralization without risking to be forced to work a job that I don't want to at any point in my life).



377. Post 28465464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: infofront on January 19, 2018, 02:04:47 AM
Am I a bad person for finding mirth in the self inflicted misfortune of others?

I thought it was hilarious too, but I kind of feel bad.  Smiley
I stopped feeling bad when I realized that people don't care about facts and turn into frenzied animals when it comes to even a sliver of chance of making some money. There are so many ways to earn big while supporting valuable contributions to society, but instead they choose the ponzis and banks of the world. Just natural selection doing what it's best at and something that we should all be thankful for, rather than feeling bad about it. Smiley



378. Post 28465568 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 19, 2018, 09:04:32 AM
I want to know how this has happened so quick. Like the removal of sell orders and the buying is all coordinated at the same time. Is this one person buying or did the whole market just change their mind due to some news event (what is it)?

Nobody on the planet would be dumb enough to put their money on Bitfinex with their past exit scam + tether scam, so it's entirely the Bitfinex owners trading back and forth with himself trying to rig the market with an exchange where no buying or selling actually takes place.
You would think that, but BCC bounced as well. Didn't Einstein go on about how the stupidity of humans is potentially infinite? I'm surprised he made such a modest estimate. Guess the lack of connectivity left some tiny sliver of "benefit of the doubt".



379. Post 28465912 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 19, 2018, 11:04:33 AM
If $24,777 isn't reached for years does that mean we still see this spam every day?

How do I trade the news that the govt of El Salvador does not want any of it's 200,000 population Trump is deporting and El Salvador is trying to dump it's own citizens in a random Arab country in the middle east called Qatar instead?

http://dailystormer.red/president-of-el-salvador-wants-to-send-200000-citizens-being-deported-to-qatar/

#notashithole Roll Eyes



380. Post 28467143 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

On another note, China doing everything it can to screw itself over:

http://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/2129645/pboc-orders-banks-halt-banking-services-cryptocurrency



381. Post 28468300 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 19, 2018, 11:39:36 AM

Why would China not ban bitcoin?  How does bitcoin help China in ANY way even if they wanted to use it? 

They have 1 billion fucking people and bitcoin doesn't scale to service a small town with one gas station, let alone China.  This thread is mostly a giant echo chamber of technically illiterate people, so they don't know Lightning Network can't function in a decentralized manner whatsoever (not that bitcoin itself functions decentralized either).  Before he became a scammer and disappeared, people who actually know what they're talking about like Death&Taxes mentioned problems like this but didn't go into any details as to why, and I've expanded on this issue 10x more than he ever did recently:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg28305541#msg28305541


Even if every crypto was heavily centralized and functioned as a digital central bank, it'd still be far more decentralized than traditional CBs are, simple by virtue of being interchangeable instantaneously. Don't like what the miners on the Bitcoin network are doing? Or the major stakeholders? Flip over to another crypto in the blink of an eye. You do not have this option with government and CB controlled fiat currencies.

And luckily cryptos are not centralized and will be further decentralized as the mainstream starts adopting them.
You're also completely neglecting the fact that a bunch of centralized hubs can very well coexist with a decentralized base layer, while also completely ignoring the fact that this is just the first solution for the current very real problems with scaling. In the future, just like exchanges, something like LN might very well end up returning to full decentralization.

And there's more to crypto than just Bitcoin, which renders your argument regarding China entirely redundant.



382. Post 28468731 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 19, 2018, 11:52:21 AM
You completely ignored the fact that China and Russia are both very clearly going back to precious metals as money.  So again, why would they let the west derail their plan with these centralized, imaginary tokens that don't even scale when metals are far better for them and more sound as money anyway?

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on January 19, 2018, 11:46:51 AM
And there's more to crypto than just Bitcoin, which renders your argument regarding China entirely redundant.



383. Post 28472308 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 19, 2018, 12:37:12 PM
You guys must be really bored since your engaging our resident town fool. I've been guilty of that myself from time to time.

Don't feed the troll.
Bound to happen, we only speak broken Hindu English after all, so it's easy to get lost in all of the big words.



384. Post 28473528 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 19, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
You guys must be really bored since your engaging our resident town fool. I've been guilty of that myself from time to time.

Don't feed the troll.
Was just coming here to pontificate on that. Cause I'm, like, REALLY bored. Anyone else? And also wtf? A lot of us have our net value fluctuate by more almost daily than most people make in a year, and the only reaction is... boredom?
It's interesting how quickly those fluctuations turned irrelevant. Makes me question how people get emotional when trading. Guess having a plan takes off the edge?



385. Post 28476079 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Dabs on January 19, 2018, 04:20:45 AM
Hey guys, I started 2016 with almost nothing, just a little more than 2 digits. It went to single digits by end of 2016 or beginning of 2017. By middle of 2017 it went to double digits again. And bitcoin's price was rallying too. I took a month long vacation during summer, then went back to see my hodlings kinda doubled (in fiat value) but remained the same in bitcoin.

As Torque implied, I was probably one of those kids in 2012 who bought some bitcoins worth $1500, waited for it to double to $3000, then cashed out to buy toys or whatever. I repeated that performance in 2013 to 2014 with Litecoin (from $20 to $40, worth about another $1000).

The coulda shoulda woulda ... the 20/20 hindsight, we all should have just bought as soon as we discovered bitcoin and hodl'ed until either 2014 or 2017 (take your pic, you either did 1000% or 10000%)

Some of us did. A lot of us did not. Some got "roached" and I can clearly see the bitterness as I continue to not ignore him and read his posts (and again, they're all still wrong, he just loves his dead pyramid ,... pyramids do function as tombs for god-kings, but they're dead.)

Anyway, I missed the last 30 or 50 pages recently, was busy dabbling in alts again and watching my almost triple digits remain double digits ... but I didn't actually trade anything, I was just watching. A few of you did take me up on my offer, but the rest of your remain apathetic towards alts in general, vehemently violent against a few in particular.

While we don't understand some of them, it is interesting to note that their biggest supporters in this thread (and outside this thread) do have or revealed to have or had at least a thousand coins of BTC as well as BCH, so there is something to learn from them.

So, while I can't just yet retire on $4 million, maybe if I hodl long enough while living off the rest of my other crypto "earnings" or hodlings, some of you guys will be obscenely rich beyond imagination and I'll be content or happy with whatever I get, probably close to double digit millions, hopefully.

Still double digits BTC here ...
I consider the altcoin market as an easily accessible venture capital market, and I have significant positions in some of them.

The overwhelming majority is certainly trash and I wouldn't touch it with a pole, but I don't think that anybody can rationally explain away all of the altcoins.

I prefer staying out of "Bitcoin clones" and "next-gen Bitcoins" though (smallest positions for good measure) - mostly because there are no fundamentals to analyze; while investing in seeds that can realistically be achieved and sustained with predictable lower-end returns and potentials when thrown into a portfolio.
Granted that's a lot more work than just holding Bitcoins would be, but I also find it more interesting by virtue of keeping an eye on the entire beast that is blockchain and cryptocurrencies, which I do believe will become equities 2.0.
I would be quite surprised if traditional stock markets were still relevant a few decades from now, and the fact that common people at least have the access to VC is also quite big (which is something that crowdfunding platforms completely failed to accomplish due to their outrageous fees and crappy policies).



386. Post 28476441 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: noize_1234 on January 19, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
I'm trying to compare the hashrates, to get a better sense of bitcoin dominance. Instead of looking to the bitcoin dominance in the market cap which has it flaws.
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I'm wondering do i need some kind of correction factor for the Ether Hashrate?

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Data from:
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/hashrate-btc-eth-bch.html#log
Electricity used (for PoW coins) would be a better metric, since hashrate depends on the algorithm used. Bitcoin also has ASICs, while Ethereum only uses GPUs, hence creating a massive discrepancy in hashrate numbers.

By taking electricity as a measure you circumvent that and can more accurately assess how many resources go into each crypto.

The downside is that it doesn't take into account the hardware costs, which you would have to estimate and include in your calculations for a more accurate picture.



387. Post 28477651 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 19, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
The problem I have with altcoins, is this:

Once Bitcoin established itself as a near-perfect digital gold 2.0 like store of value, as well as something that can be used online as a currency, then investing in anything else trying to do the same thing (i.e., an also ran) made zero logical sense.

If people want to gamble with also-rans that's fine. But there is a deep seated fallacy in comparing a fly-by-night project that all it has to show for itself is a single anonymous dev, an online token, and a back-of-the-napkin scribbled future roadmap as even being in the same league as Bitcoin.

I also have a real issue with also-ran cryptos that claim to have solutions to problems that don't exist, or will never really exist. App-based tokens. History is literally littered with such IT projects that go nowhere and do nothing. Especially pay-to-play apps, that will compete with other apps that are free and do the same thing. That is beyond absurd.

You think that if a company that had a Twitter-like app came out, but had a token that they made you buy in order to use it (for "fuel"), that they could in any way compete with Twitter (a free app)? No. Fucking. Way.
That's exactly how I see it, which is why I don't buy and hold any significant quantities of currency type coins. I'm more interested in startups that are using the blockchain as a means of gaining the necessary liquidity for them to actually start off.

The social media type tokens that you mentioned are also a prime example of what doesn't realistically have a future. It could just work out (because people are pretty weird creatures), but there's no compelling reason to start using a platform that requires you to throw money at it in any form when there are free and ad-run solutions, however shady they may be (which most people don't care about due to ease of access).

Don't get me wrong, it takes a damn lot of digging and perhaps even a bit of luck to identify something that isn't just a bunch of out-of-college kids or other dweebs trying to capitalize on the most recent hype without having the required ideas, skills or perserverence to create something successful. But as with every market, there are always a few gems to be found. Granted of the ones with real potential many will never reach their potential or just outright fail, but that's where diversification comes into play.

With all this said, I am 100% convinced that there will be a flood of tears at some point in crypto history, where a lot of people will lose pretty much everything. But that's not something that is unique to altcoins and has happened with every hype before.



388. Post 28477856 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: itod on January 19, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
The problem I have with altcoins, is this:

Once Bitcoin established itself as a near-perfect digital gold 2.0 like store of value, as well as something that can be used online as a currency, then investing in anything else trying to do the same thing (i.e., an also ran) made zero logical sense.

If people want to gamble with also-rans that's fine. But there is a deep seated fallacy in comparing a fly-by-night project that all it has to show for itself is a single anonymous dev, an online token, and a back-of-the-napkin scribbled future roadmap as even being in the same league as Bitcoin.

I also have a real issue with also-ran cryptos that claim to have solutions to problems that don't exist, or will never really exist. App-based tokens. History is literally littered with such IT projects that go nowhere and do nothing. Especially pay-to-play apps, that will compete with other apps that are free and do the same thing. That is beyond absurd.

You are 100% right with everything, except the conclusion. The LN establishment as altcoin killer will not happen overnight, it's a process that will have markings on the wall as the journey unfolds. There will be plenty of time for anyone reasonable to exit the altcoins in time. Meanwhile, they are the vehicle to increase your BTC stash, which is in essence what Dabs said. I absolutely don't see anything wrong with it.
I see it more as Bitcoin = USD, alts = equity (of a new "world"). Don't really care about currency type alts, although I'm sure there will be a number of them even with LN. Just look at the formation of countries and traditional currencies, there's no compelling reason to believe that this won't be mirrored in crypto as well. But the very fact that currency type alts have zero fundamentals to base investment decisions on is reason enough for me to pretty much stay out of those and stick with equity type coins.



389. Post 28478489 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 19, 2018, 02:19:40 PM
You are 100% right with everything, except the conclusion. The LN establishment as altcoin killer will not happen overnight, it's a process that will have markings on the wall as the journey unfolds. There will be plenty of time for anyone reasonable to exit the altcoins in time. Meanwhile, they are the vehicle to increase your BTC stash, which is in essence what Dabs said. I absolutely don't see anything wrong with it.

Except that the majority, like 90+%, won't increase their BTC stash with altcoin trading. They'll actually lose money, and would have just been better off buying bitcoin and holding it instead. The [altcoin]/btc ratio trailing downward on the majority of altcoins proves my point.
That's also a symptom of every financial market (or even game) though. Most people impulsively flail their arms around and end up losing. So rather than an indicator to stay out it's an indicator to pay more attention than the crypto masses, which you are already doing by being in Bitcoin in the first place (which the mainstream is not). This only works with sufficient time to spare though. With a full-time job I'd just hold onto my Bitcoins, but since I don't have one I can play the alt market (with great success, out performing both the overall market as well as BTC as a benchmark).



390. Post 28478938 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Which is why it's all the more important to identify tokens that function as equity in a company with realistic and reaonable future prospects. The (overall) altcoin market is pretty insane for sure though. There are still people who believe in BCC apparently.



391. Post 28479584 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 19, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Which is why it's all the more important to identify tokens that function as equity in a company with realistic and reaonable future prospects. The (overall) altcoin market is pretty insane for sure though. There are still people who believe in BCC apparently.

Have you ever seen an ICO company that says "There will only ever be [X] number of these ICO tokens issued. Each one represents a VALID and LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE equity ownership share of the company."

I haven't.
No, I haven't either. But equity hasn't always been regulated either. Regulation adapts to reality, not the other way around. Again, altcoins are extremely risky and require a lot of time and know-how to even have a chance of making profits without losing it down the road. But that doesn't mean that they're all bad.

Stocks carry very similar risks as well, despite being regulated. The lack of regulation is simultaneously a threat as well as an opportunity. It depends on the individual which aspect will outweigh the other.



392. Post 28482064 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

I haven't watched that movie, no. Is it worth the time?


And when I say "equity" it's not exactly in the way that normal equity functions (due to regulations). There are a number of different models which distribute the generated revenue to token holders in one way or another. In some cases you have to become active, in others the tokens are required to satisfy certain functions of the product or platform.

As far as token caps are concerned, I know for fact that the Waves platform gives the choice of whether or not tokens are re-issuable or not, which is a piece of information that is available to the public. Given a decentralized platform that functions with those tokens, just printing extra tokens would thus not be possible. The total supply and how the token functions in the proposed company/product/platform is a critical factor though.

And while I expect well above 90% of crypto companies dying, I do expect at least a dozen or so (~1%) to remain with one or two even becoming major global players in the 2020s. Who knows which those will be though.



393. Post 28482462 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Torque on January 19, 2018, 03:26:44 PM
I haven't watched that movie, no. Is it worth the time?

Yes, very good movie. Performances all around fantastic.
Thanks, I'll check it out.



394. Post 28488402 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 19, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
re Overstock

I have, thus far, failed to be impressed by their prices.

And, having grown up in the inter-mountain West, I have a strong disdain for the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints...so yeah, no.
Bitpanda works quite well for Amazon, at least in Europe. And it's much quicker than going through fiat directly, although granted they do charge quite a margin if I recall correctly.

Seconding the Amazoncoin sentiment by the way, Bezos is usually on top of the game with these kinds of developments. Perhaps he'll just end up acquiring Bitpay or something like that though.



395. Post 28491783 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Motivation or not, there won't really be anywhere close to enough jobs to go around in the future. So I'd worry about AI and automation rather than temporally limited investment opportunities.



396. Post 28493080 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Even if Bitcoin never managed to become an efficient tool for remittance and retail it will still remain valuable and keep growing for at least as long as no other crypto replaces it as the default base pair in trading alts. This also means that it'll grow at least proportionally to the overall crypto market for the time being.



397. Post 28493200 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Also, the window of opportunity that jojo noted is a very real threat to Bitcoin's position at the very top. Competition is fierce and the market moves fast. All it takes is a superior coin and the right marketing/hype. Granted that's very difficult to pull off (as it would require resources well beyond what ICOs raise), but it's not something that is unthinkable.



398. Post 28493226 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on January 19, 2018, 06:21:44 PM
2 more days sideways and we´ll see a drop. Thats what happens most of the time when we go sideways after a dump :/
My fiat is still ready for $6-8k.



399. Post 28496673 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: serveria.com on January 19, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
2 more days sideways and we´ll see a drop. Thats what happens most of the time when we go sideways after a dump :/
I don't think so

What do you base that on?

Do you guys think a government shutdown would be beneficial for the crypto markets right now?

If you're referring to China ban that's an old story. S.Korea ban? Does BTC give a damn?
Nope, it doesn't and it won't. After all, countries like Switzerland are embracing cryptos with open arms. As much as I can understand why a government would want to regulate or outright ban cryptos, it's almost certainly the wrong move from just about every perspective.



400. Post 28497000 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Elix9 on January 19, 2018, 07:28:26 PM
I wasn't talking about government regulations, I was referring to the possibility of a temporary US Federal Gov. shutdown that has been in the news lately.
Ah, I see. In that case I'm not sure why crypto would benefit from that. Doesn't really have any relevance that I could think of spontaneously.



401. Post 28497320 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Elix9 on January 19, 2018, 07:31:29 PM
what...on earth...would that non-event have to do with anything??

People lose more faith in the established system and gain a little more faith in crypto, a possibility.
Government shutdowns are not a rare event at all, so I don't see why it would sway public opinion in such a way. If it was the first time the government has been shut down that could potentially be a possibility though.



402. Post 28498555 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 19, 2018, 07:39:48 PM
The storm is coming...

http://stockemperor.com/currencies/tether-now-prints-100-mln-usd-daily/
How the fuck do exchanges even go insolvent?



403. Post 28502928 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 19, 2018, 09:11:28 PM
What kind of goals are you looking to achieve that require a sudden >$500k <$1000k, if I may ask.

Looking to cash out $3M USD worth of Bitcorn before March 1 to have it working for me in a retirement portfolio by end of Q1.

Ideally, I'd like to sell higher than lower, but recognize this is a rough season.
Is there any particular reason for that date? Seems quite arbitrary given that I'm not aware of any funds that restrict entries based on time.



404. Post 28503075 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Fair enough. Good luck with that.



405. Post 28503664 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Wasn't there some service that connected whales peer to peer for crypto <-> fiat trades?



406. Post 28506118 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 19, 2018, 10:14:40 PM
Even if Bitcoin never managed to become an efficient tool for remittance and retail

It already is efficient and successful as a remittance tool.


it will still remain valuable and keep growing for at least as long as no other crypto replaces it as the default base pair in trading alts.

That is a pretty pathetic description of "a significant" bitcoin use case.




This also means that it'll grow at least proportionally to the overall crypto market for the time being.

You seem to be lacking in imagination... no?    Roll Eyes


Also, the window of opportunity that jojo noted is a very real threat to Bitcoin's position at the very top. Competition is fierce and the market moves fast. All it takes is a superior coin and the right marketing/hype. Granted that's very difficult to pull off (as it would require resources well beyond what ICOs raise), but it's not something that is unthinkable.

Oh my!!!!!  Sounds scary.    Shocked

Our anthropomorphized bitcoin should be shaking in its proverbial boots, no?
1. Not for smaller transfers, no.

2. and 3. Context. I've isolated the worst case use case as an example, which in reality is just one part of the equation. A part that has sufficient potential to justify valuations in the trillions.

4. Extremely unlikely doesn't mean impossible. I'm incredibly bullish on Bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that it's a sure shot.



407. Post 28507770 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 19, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Even if Bitcoin never managed to become an efficient tool for remittance and retail

It already is efficient and successful as a remittance tool.


it will still remain valuable and keep growing for at least as long as no other crypto replaces it as the default base pair in trading alts.

That is a pretty pathetic description of "a significant" bitcoin use case.




This also means that it'll grow at least proportionally to the overall crypto market for the time being.

You seem to be lacking in imagination... no?    Roll Eyes


Also, the window of opportunity that jojo noted is a very real threat to Bitcoin's position at the very top. Competition is fierce and the market moves fast. All it takes is a superior coin and the right marketing/hype. Granted that's very difficult to pull off (as it would require resources well beyond what ICOs raise), but it's not something that is unthinkable.

Oh my!!!!!  Sounds scary.    Shocked

Our anthropomorphized bitcoin should be shaking in its proverbial boots, no?
1. Not for smaller transfers, no.

2. and 3. Context. I've isolated the worst case use case as an example, which in reality is just one part of the equation. A part that has sufficient potential to justify valuations in the trillions.

4. Extremely unlikely doesn't mean impossible. I'm incredibly bullish on Bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that it's a sure shot.

I just find your whole framework irritating to the extent it seems to devolve into prescriptive rather than descriptive, and seems to convolute the two, too.
I guess conditionals aren't your thing, eh.



408. Post 28529193 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 20, 2018, 01:31:37 AM
I guess conditionals aren't your thing, eh.


I do like conditionals when talking about the future and when talking about unknowns - but there is a difference between using conditionals and what you seem to be doing, which I already asserted that you are proclaiming "ought" rather than accepting "is" while scrambling the two.   Roll Eyes
Sounds like cherry picking to me, because I've specifically outlined the contrary of what I conditioned for as well to give a more complete picture of my thought process. So if there's any conflating going on it's between your assumptions of what I'm writing and the snippets that you've chosen to, or randomly ended up, paying attention to. But whatever floats your boat, your responses are slowly beginning to border roach territory.



409. Post 28534339 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on January 20, 2018, 10:42:10 AM
where are the bears? Hibernating til next year?

I hope so, I want to see this thing at 50k by the end of this year.

Now, how do I send an nTimeLock transaction for 12 months from now? OP-HODL we used to call it.

PS. I just took a year off work. Cool
don't go near any of that coretard shit
ps congrats. more time for gifs?

I plan to spend the year finding myself. I've always wanted to write a fugue, for example..
God how I love fugues. Bach was a wizard when it came to those.



410. Post 28535037 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Sounds spot on. Tongue



411. Post 28535345 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Gould and Bach both are beyond sophistication or any such silly mortal concepts.



412. Post 28535457 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

I'm also particularly fond of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WhPUqpaRp4



413. Post 28536237 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Do people call it Baroke? lol


On another note: https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-will-totally-collapse-even-takes-100-years-nobel-prize-winner/

Omg, things that exist eventually (given enough time) disappear!!! Thank god for Noble prize Economists enlightening us about the universe.



414. Post 28536429 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Damn, did you actually get to listen to him play live?



415. Post 28537004 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Are you implying that triangles are not sophisticated?



416. Post 28537496 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on January 20, 2018, 11:45:56 AM
Are you implying that triangles are not sophisticated?

Music is a huge pyramid scheme.



Note the head and shoulders pattern.. Roll Eyes
Confirminati illumed?



417. Post 28538558 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

lol

Wonder what his angle will be when LN goes live and BCash will be ridiculously expensive and slow in comparison despite nobody using it.



418. Post 28539640 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on January 20, 2018, 12:23:56 PM
How hard is it to rhyme words?
Kids these days, innit  Roll Eyes



419. Post 28543479 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

That completely slipped my attention. You can't make this kind of stuff up Cheesy



420. Post 28543828 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 20, 2018, 01:30:11 PM
cheap coins!

This guy agrees:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyA9-jJhlCo
Not gonna lie, that cracked me up.



421. Post 29767005 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Paashaas on February 07, 2018, 04:42:41 AM
I'm still kind of coming to grips with the fact that a man just put his version of a lambo IN ORBIT...with a final destination of MARS...

I Like what Mr. Musk did with that car  Tongue

(This pic is real)


I somehow missed the car in that. Had to go back to double check, damn that guy is all the good kinds of crazy.



422. Post 29767184 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Wekkel on February 07, 2018, 06:44:51 AM
I think MasterLuc has lost his edge recently, and I don't believe we'll languish for a year at 10K.

I think we are still within various of his suggested scenarios. This isn’t hard science but educated guessing.
Isn't hard science just very educated guessing? (Spoilers)



423. Post 29768132 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 07, 2018, 06:54:11 AM
I think MasterLuc has lost his edge recently, and I don't believe we'll languish for a year at 10K.

I think we are still within various of his suggested scenarios. This isn’t hard science but educated guessing.
Isn't hard science just very educated guessing? (Spoilers)

are you kidding?
maybe if we are talking about economic "science" and economists.
Economics is a joke that doesn't really belong in academia.

Hard science is fundamentally "just" statistical analysis, which ultimately is "very" educated guessing. There is no such thing as A "always implies" B when it comes to science, there's just extremely high probabilities that can be considered as "factual" for all practical purposes and intents without ever being provable to be such in absolute terms.

Quote from: Wekkel on February 07, 2018, 06:55:08 AM
I think MasterLuc has lost his edge recently, and I don't believe we'll languish for a year at 10K.

I think we are still within various of his suggested scenarios. This isn’t hard science but educated guessing.
Isn't hard science just very educated guessing? (Spoilers)

If I look out my window right now, I see Moon.

Hard science?  Grin
If you kept repeating your 'experiment' and noted time and position, sure.



424. Post 29768552 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 07, 2018, 07:13:47 AM
Tether is a separate legal entity to BFX.  Unlikely to pull down BFX (unless it triggers a run and BFX has been fractional reserve banking).
How does Tether even work? Suppose BFX/Tether went insolvent, would Tether remain? Or would people with any Tether just be screwed (ignoring the actual BTC price as a result of such an event)?



425. Post 29769607 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 07, 2018, 07:19:43 AM
Tether is a separate legal entity to BFX.  Unlikely to pull down BFX (unless it triggers a run and BFX has been fractional reserve banking).
How does Tether even work? Suppose BFX/Tether went insolvent, would Tether remain? Or would people with any Tether just be screwed (ignoring the actual BTC price as a result of such an event)?

Tether is a completely centralized token so the bankruptcy administrator could freeze all Tether (or take it back to a central wallet).
Thanks for clarifying. Had a hunch that would be the case, guess I was right for staying out of Tether as a hedging tool.



426. Post 29775304 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.42h):

Quote from: toknormal on February 07, 2018, 09:13:49 AM

Nice decoupling.



Gotta love reciprocal correlation in volatile markets.



427. Post 29775929 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: TERA2 on February 07, 2018, 09:29:30 AM
New poll: glade or no glade
I'm glade you asked and I'll go with glade.



428. Post 29776139 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Are you trying to turn glade into the antimoon?



429. Post 29785316 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 07, 2018, 12:04:37 PM
The next question is what are all these shitcoins going to do. I would prefer if ETH just stayed went down, rather than running even more than btc.

ETH is a disease carrier.

ETH is a store of vulnerabilities
Wasn't that just Parity?



430. Post 29790472 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: strawbs on February 07, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
J. Christopher Giancarlo describes HODL in the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking  ... HODL On For Dear Life - ɃItcoin .... His niece is a HODLer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSPywOS9DWU

More and more praises for Bitcoin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rWcVgffsjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G16g9neqUFQ

This guy made my day!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I thought HODL was just a typo error meaning HOLD from this forum a few years ago.  Not sure where he got Hold On For Dear Life from?
It was just a typo. Things have a tendency to take on a life of their own though, like the Ugandan Knuckles conglomerate of memes for example.



431. Post 29790481 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: josephpogi on February 07, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Hi guys i want to ask . What if i have sell orders then i cancelled it . There's a fee by doing that in binance?  Or none? Thnks.
No fee until your order gets triggered.



432. Post 29792219 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 07, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
It was just a typo. Things have a tendency to take on a life of their own though, like the Ugandan Knuckles conglomerate of memes for example.

I spit on you. You are not de reel qween.
My brudda. I never said I was.



433. Post 29797038 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Mythase on February 07, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
Is it me or I have a feeling the alt season is finally coming to an end.
The alts didn't bounce as hard as I expected, or if they did, they didn't hold long.

Yesterday commission hearing was bullish for bitcoin, but bearish for alts in my opinion.

So, is the alt season f-f-f-finally ending? Or I'm just seeing shit....
You're just seeing shit.

Bitcoin is still "down" from a short-term perspective and pretty much all altcoin valuations are denominated in BTC, not USD. Once Bitcoin starts tracing back up, altcoins will probably go down in terms of BTC while roughly tracing their "original" USD valuations. Then once Bitcoin starts moving sideways, alts will play their usual catchup game.

In the meantime, whichever alts have strong changes in fundamentals will go up regardless of the current market situation.

But in short, there's certainly no reason to assume that altcoins are "ending". They are primed to be the equity of the future, especially if regulators actually start embracing cryptos. Of course, that does not include complete and utter shitcoins with no value proposition.



434. Post 29798647 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: julian071 on February 07, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
Was out of the office a couple of days. Today I heard a couple of collegues actually sold at the bottom! Shaking out the weak hands really works.....  =(
There's a reason why Buffet called the stock markets a device for transfering money from the impatient to the patient.



Quote from: Paashaas on February 07, 2018, 03:30:05 PM
Starman will be in oure solar system for many many years to come. Repeating the same track from 'David Bowie' -Space Oddity- You can even watch ''The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy''  Cool

And that ''Don't Panic'' on that touchscreen. 

You can follow Starman's live stream here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?_sp=080f132e-9ded-4bab-b36a-b5c49d26b832.1518016157691&time_continue=6&v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Isn't it going to run out of energy eventually? Did they say how long it'd last?



435. Post 29800304 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: josephpogi on February 07, 2018, 03:52:12 PM
Crypto Experts Predict 2018 Bull Run: Bitcoin To $50k, Overall Market Cap To $1 Trln
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-experts-predict-2018-bull-run-bitcoin-to-50k-overall-market-cap-to-1-trln

I NEED MORE MONEY TO INVEST MORE IF BITCOIN GOES DIP AGAIN  Grin
 I CHOOSE MY HOUSE I WILL SELL IT .  Cool
Make sure to trade your house at the peak and then sell at the dip in full on panic mode.



436. Post 29801129 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on February 07, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
Out of merits for Me I’m afraid. Great outlook on life. Remember those of us that work should work to live and not live to work.
I don't think it's a good idea to work to live. Instead, try to find what you enjoy the most out of the things that align with your abilities and potential and then seek to make a career out of it. That way you will neither become complacent (and thus ultimately unhappy and unfulfilled) if you make it "big" (in financial terms), and won't be stuck doing something you hate for money for the rest of your life either.



437. Post 29843644 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 08:17:18 AM
Wow, wtf happened on the WO? There's some real ignorance coming out here. GTFO polluting the thread and our world with racism. If you're not in support of all races, it's YOU that is divided. Next topic, bitcoin please.
Nobody is fucking equal, comrade. People are different.
Yes, we are all different. Don't make the mistake of thinking one way is better than another. Some of us live our lives abroad in various countries learning more about culture, humanity, and how we are connected. You come across to me as someone who's been sheltered in America and fed MSM garbage when you spew your BS. No offence, check yourself.
Of course some cultures are better than others. That's why the rest of the world is trying to get into the west. We build the best cultures. And I have traveled enough that it no longer interests me all that much. Take a trip to Manila yourself, you'll see just how shitty cultures can be.

Of course, while cultures are not equal, they are all beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-sr5LNA50
Some of their issues aside (ridiculous work hours, shitty schools), I'm actually quite fond of Japan and its culture. It feels like an actual country of its own, while western countries all feel the same to me. I wouldn't want to live there for a small number of reasons, but from a strictly cultural perspective I would choose that place over any western country, mostly due to all of the little things that really add up. Such as not being a fucking obnoxious cunt in public.



438. Post 29844296 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: kurious on February 08, 2018, 08:49:09 AM

(snip....)

The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?


This is a huge, but probably unanswerable question.  But it is one that anyone smart is always hoping to find the answer to.

Markets are all about confidence and sentiment, so (sadly) there is no perfect answer, even though with hindsight patterns do repeat.  But patterns can always be seen in the past and look obvious - seeing them coming again is not so easy.  Like Elliot waves; it's always debatable 'which wave' we are in.

For long-term trend prediction (the big turning points), I think indicators of irrational bullishness /bearishness are as good an indicator of anything a crash, or rise is coming - but this is unmeasurable mathematically.

Short term - personally - I draw lines on charts endlessly, decide my favourite candle time scale and which MA to trade on and it usually 'helps' - but only enough to give me an edge.  And it's an edge that works only if you work hard and spend a LOT of time on it.

I did sell off 20% in Dec, which was as much as I dared to because it was enough to change my life significantly - and I didn't know what the tax situation in my country was likely to mean for what I took out (plus it was still going up!).   I felt strongly we would probably correct, and I remembered 2013, so I took 'some' out.  I advised members of my close family who had anything to do the same (they chose not to).

I will say this:

With trends (not short term trading), the only thing that has worked for me is two methodologies:

1.  Gut feeling  (along with mentally preparing to 'sell to too early, if it's enough money to make a difference')

2.  Listening to Tera.
Well, while you can't predict where in a given pattern we are at any given moment, you can use historical data to get a probability of certain patterns unfolding on different time scales. And to be profitable all it takes is to be right just over 50% of the time, which is something that isn't extremely difficult in inefficient markets. That does take a very specific toolset though, so it's not for everyone by default, although the required skills can be acquired by anyone. The problem is that figuring out the details takes a very long time, and humans are pretty dreadful when it comes to long-term planning.



439. Post 29844980 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 09:05:36 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest
by
Dorian Lynskey

Dorian Lynskey is a music writer for the Guardian and Observer as well as magazines including Q, GQ and Mojo. He is the author of 33 Revolutions Per Minute: A History of Protest Songs (Faber).

Very dangerous. To the left. That's why he has become a global phenomenon. He is a modern Socrates.

Do you have any other links to his writing ? As an avowed Marxist I look forward to having my mind blown. Unfortunately I don’t know any of the people in the above article he is talking about so it all falls a bit flat.
Links about Peterson? Just look him up on youtube. He has thousands of hours of lectures and talks and debates.
They're all worth watching too. Very inspiring and down to earth guy.



440. Post 29845214 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
Wow, wtf happened on the WO? There's some real ignorance coming out here. GTFO polluting the thread and our world with racism. If you're not in support of all races, it's YOU that is divided. Next topic, bitcoin please.
Nobody is fucking equal, comrade. People are different.
Yes, we are all different. Don't make the mistake of thinking one way is better than another. Some of us live our lives abroad in various countries learning more about culture, humanity, and how we are connected. You come across to me as someone who's been sheltered in America and fed MSM garbage when you spew your BS. No offence, check yourself.
Of course some cultures are better than others. That's why the rest of the world is trying to get into the west. We build the best cultures. And I have traveled enough that it no longer interests me all that much. Take a trip to Manila yourself, you'll see just how shitty cultures can be.

Of course, while cultures are not equal, they are all beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-sr5LNA50
Some of their issues aside (ridiculous work hours, shitty schools), I'm actually quite fond of Japan and its culture. It feels like an actual country of its own, while western countries all feel the same to me. I wouldn't want to live there for a small number of reasons, but from a strictly cultural perspective I would choose that place over any western country, mostly due to all of the little things that really add up. Such as not being a fucking obnoxious cunt in public.
They are nationalists instead of globalists. That's the main difference.

That's also why they focus so much on robotics. Better to have robots tend to their large elderly population than let in gaijins like we have done.
I never even understood the argument against technological unemployment. That sounds like a fucking dream come true to me. I hope Japan will remain nationalist instead of randomly deciding that it's a good idea to kill their culture.



441. Post 29846281 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 09:20:00 AM
Wow, wtf happened on the WO? There's some real ignorance coming out here. GTFO polluting the thread and our world with racism. If you're not in support of all races, it's YOU that is divided. Next topic, bitcoin please.
Nobody is fucking equal, comrade. People are different.
Yes, we are all different. Don't make the mistake of thinking one way is better than another. Some of us live our lives abroad in various countries learning more about culture, humanity, and how we are connected. You come across to me as someone who's been sheltered in America and fed MSM garbage when you spew your BS. No offence, check yourself.
Of course some cultures are better than others. That's why the rest of the world is trying to get into the west. We build the best cultures. And I have traveled enough that it no longer interests me all that much. Take a trip to Manila yourself, you'll see just how shitty cultures can be.

Of course, while cultures are not equal, they are all beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-sr5LNA50
Some of their issues aside (ridiculous work hours, shitty schools), I'm actually quite fond of Japan and its culture. It feels like an actual country of its own, while western countries all feel the same to me. I wouldn't want to live there for a small number of reasons, but from a strictly cultural perspective I would choose that place over any western country, mostly due to all of the little things that really add up. Such as not being a fucking obnoxious cunt in public.
They are nationalists instead of globalists. That's the main difference.

That's also why they focus so much on robotics. Better to have robots tend to their large elderly population than let in gaijins like we have done.
I never even understood the argument against technological unemployment. That sounds like a fucking dream come true to me. I hope Japan will remain nationalist instead of randomly deciding that it's a good idea to kill their culture.
Because nobody gives money away for free. Not governments, and not individuals.

Besides, it would be a Very Bad Thing to live in a nation of Eloi when most of the world is violent. Humans need challenges to overcome in order to be human, rather than overgrown children.
I don't really give a shit about what humans on average do though, as long as everything else is taken care of. I've been going out of my way to challenge myself for as long as I can remember, but that doesn't seem to be something that most people are interested in. Why bother forcing them when they're too stupid to challenge themselves in the right ways to begin with? Just look at the challenges that certain ideological groups are trying to overcome. They're complete and utter horseshit and they generally don't learn anything from their failures.

As far as giving money away for free goes. If nobody has any money then nobody will be capable of consuming. And getting money to spend it on the products of those who choose to engage in more creative/productive endeavours doesn't seem like a bad trade-off to me. Having the choice to sell your data would be alright too, unlike what Google and the other big tech companies are doing right now. There's also the factor of costs, which are exponentially decreasing as time moves on. Providing food and entertainment will be virtually free in the future anyways. Especially once we've got energy sorted out.



442. Post 29846503 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: kurious on February 08, 2018, 09:28:31 AM

(snip....)

The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?


This is a huge, but probably unanswerable question.  But it is one that anyone smart is always hoping to find the answer to.

Markets are all about confidence and sentiment, so (sadly) there is no perfect answer, even though with hindsight patterns do repeat.  But patterns can always be seen in the past and look obvious - seeing them coming again is not so easy.  Like Elliot waves; it's always debatable 'which wave' we are in.

For long-term trend prediction (the big turning points), I think indicators of irrational bullishness /bearishness are as good an indicator of anything a crash, or rise is coming - but this is unmeasurable mathematically.

Short term - personally - I draw lines on charts endlessly, decide my favourite candle time scale and which MA to trade on and it usually 'helps' - but only enough to give me an edge.  And it's an edge that works only if you work hard and spend a LOT of time on it.

I did sell off 20% in Dec, which was as much as I dared to because it was enough to change my life significantly - and I didn't know what the tax situation in my country was likely to mean for what I took out (plus it was still going up!).   I felt strongly we would probably correct, and I remembered 2013, so I took 'some' out.  I advised members of my close family who had anything to do the same (they chose not to).

I will say this:

With trends (not short term trading), the only thing that has worked for me is two methodologies:

1.  Gut feeling  (along with mentally preparing to 'sell to too early, if it's enough money to make a difference')

2.  Listening to Tera.
Well, while you can't predict where in a given pattern we are at any given moment, you can use historical data to get a probability of certain patterns unfolding on different time scales. And to be profitable all it takes is to be right just over 50% of the time, which is something that isn't extremely difficult in inefficient markets. That does take a very specific toolset though, so it's not for everyone by default, although the required skills can be acquired by anyone. The problem is that figuring out the details takes a very long time, and humans are pretty dreadful when it comes to long-term planning.

I think what d_eddie was quite reasonable asking was 'what can we learn so that can we see the big stuff coming in future', since most here did not.

I use TA and in normal conditions I can trade with enough edge for it to work well enough to be worthwhile, after five years, I ought to have learned something - but I didn't know where the top was, and I am not totally certain BTC has bottomed out.  To be really good, you need to sell all at the precise top, and then buy it back at the absolute bottom. 

Perfection is not possible, but getting closer to it is a noble and sensible quest.

I doubt anyone actually did.
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.



443. Post 29847838 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: kurious on February 08, 2018, 09:39:10 AM
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
You don't have to know when it'll start crashing, how low it will go, or when it will reverse up to what point. You can use historic data in combination with fundamental analysis to compute a set of prices at which you buy/sell parts of your stash, as well as how large those parts should be to maximize profits while simultaneously minimizing the risk of losing. That doesn't mean you'll make the maximum possible profit, but rather that you'd maximize your profits while making sure that you don't drop below a certain threshold. The threshold is something that you choose according to your risk appetite.


Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 09:35:42 AM
Humans don't exist in anything other than groups. The average person is the culture you live in. That's why.

Money will not be eradicated. Not going to happen.
Never said money will disappear. I don't think it will, even if we end up in a period of abundance. It's overall role in society may change (e.g. the 99% won't really see it any longer), but it's not going to go away.



444. Post 29847935 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 09:47:38 AM
Racist is a meaningless buzzword, stating facts is now racist, yes jews control the media, and the banks, that's a fact, get over it.
yes blacks on average score much lower on IQ tests and commit a disproportionately high amount violent crimes?  is that ''racist''? don't know, don't care, but it happens to be true.

OMG People of color score lower on Ethnocentric tests. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your crap.

Get a grip, you're a racist.

P.S.  This thread is about BTC.
*sigh* no. IQ tests are simply pattern recognition. There is nothing cultural about it. That tired old excuse is... tiresome.

And they do commit more crime. About four or five times as much per capita. Again, easy enough to look up for anyone who actually cares.

Socio-economic status is a far more reliable predictor of IQ test performance.  Low SES children consistently underperform
You got it reversed. Low social status and poverty is a result of low IQ.

The strongest predictor of socioeconomic status is the SES of your parents. On that basis only smart babies choose to be born to wealthy parents  Grin
IQ is mostly genetic. There is literally nothing we can do about it, as far as we currently know. Blame your parents if you wish.
I disagree with that notion. IQ is a statistical measure of rather arbitrary test results of tests that can be practiced for. If you really cared you could increase your IQ to 120~140ish by sheer effort. From that point onward we're so far to the right of the mean that no tests really exist in sufficient volume.



445. Post 29848316 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Zicore47 on February 08, 2018, 10:04:49 AM
IQ is mostly genetic. There is literally nothing we can do about it, as far as we currently know. Blame your parents if you wish.
I disagree with that notion. IQ is a statistical measure of rather arbitrary test results of tests that can be practiced for. If you really cared you could increase your IQ to 120~140ish by sheer effort. From that point onward we're so far to the right of the mean that no tests really exist in sufficient volume.

There is a difference between IQ and Intelligence. The frome being only an attempt to measure the latter.
That's true, Ibian specifically mentioned IQ though. Which is just a statistical measure that can easily be tampered with. I also don't believe that intelligence is static. Genetic or environmental factors may predispose people to take on fewer to no challenges, which would cause them to stagnate in their development. But if you keep throwing yourself at unfamiliar problems and keep trying to solve them you will eventually start improving exponentially when it comes to picking up skills and assimilating general information.



446. Post 29848720 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 10:05:40 AM
The strongest predictor of socioeconomic status is the SES of your parents. On that basis only smart babies choose to be born to wealthy parents  Grin
IQ is mostly genetic. There is literally nothing we can do about it, as far as we currently know. Blame your parents if you wish.
I disagree with that notion. IQ is a statistical measure of rather arbitrary test results of tests that can be practiced for. If you really cared you could increase your IQ to 120~140ish by sheer effort. From that point onward we're so far to the right of the mean that no tests really exist in sufficient volume.
I agree that you can practice for IQ tests, which is exactly why I didn't do it when I took one years ago. Felt like cheating. That said, someone with let's say an "unpracticed" IQ of 80 can't train himself up to 120. There are limits to what is possible, and those limits are inherent to the individual. And even then it doesn't carry over to other areas of life.
I have never seen anybody train themselves from 80 to 120, so I can't even pretend to know whether this is possible or not. But I tend towards believing that sustained practice, perhaps under proper guidance, would eventually make such an increase possible, given that the individual in question actually put their mind into actively improving. And I'd be quite curious to see whether or not such an increase would pass on to first generation offsprings.

And depending on how that "training" took place it might very well carry over to other areas of life, but that'd be up to the individual and the training methods.

The moment I started conflating ideas and concepts from completely unrelated subjects was roughly when I started noticing a substantial increase in my own performance when it comes to learning new things. But that could possibly be just an overall change in mentality, as I used to build knowledge from first principles or from ground up.
Now I use analogies, fill the gaps and then check for logical errors. The latter method is significantly more efficient, but I doubt it would be possible without solid fundamentals.

Point being that there are a numerous potential tweaks to thinking that can be applied to all aspects of life.



447. Post 29849861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 10:24:14 AM
The strongest predictor of socioeconomic status is the SES of your parents. On that basis only smart babies choose to be born to wealthy parents  Grin
IQ is mostly genetic. There is literally nothing we can do about it, as far as we currently know. Blame your parents if you wish.
I disagree with that notion. IQ is a statistical measure of rather arbitrary test results of tests that can be practiced for. If you really cared you could increase your IQ to 120~140ish by sheer effort. From that point onward we're so far to the right of the mean that no tests really exist in sufficient volume.
I agree that you can practice for IQ tests, which is exactly why I didn't do it when I took one years ago. Felt like cheating. That said, someone with let's say an "unpracticed" IQ of 80 can't train himself up to 120. There are limits to what is possible, and those limits are inherent to the individual. And even then it doesn't carry over to other areas of life.
I have never seen anybody train themselves from 80 to 120, so I can't even pretend to know whether this is possible or not. But I tend towards believing that sustained practice, perhaps under proper guidance, would eventually make such an increase possible, given that the individual in question actually put their mind into actively improving. And I'd be quite curious to see whether or not such an increase would pass on to first generation offsprings.

And depending on how that "training" took place it might very well carry over to other areas of life, but that'd be up to the individual and the training methods.

The moment I started conflating ideas and concepts from completely unrelated subjects was roughly when I started noticing a substantial increase in my own performance when it comes to learning new things. But that could possibly be just an overall change in mentality, as I used to build knowledge from first principles or from ground up.
Now I use analogies, fill the gaps and then check for logical errors. The latter method is significantly more efficient, but I doubt it would be possible without solid fundamentals.

Point being that there are a numerous potential tweaks to thinking that can be applied to all aspects of life.
And again, it has never been shown to be possible to measurably increase IQ. It's been tried.

What is possible is to teach people to think in useful ways. But that's not IQ.
How hard were they trying though? I recall reading a paper from one of the Ivy League universities that concluded that perfect pitch could not be learned in adulthood. And the argumentation, as well as the experiment itself, was lackluster to say the least.



448. Post 29850388 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: trepper on February 08, 2018, 10:43:01 AM
Racist is a meaningless buzzword, stating facts is now racist, yes jews control the media, and the banks, that's a fact, get over it.
yes blacks on average score much lower on IQ tests and commit a disproportionately high amount violent crimes?  is that ''racist''? don't know, don't care, but it happens to be true.

OMG People of color score lower on Ethnocentric tests. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your crap.

Get a grip, you're a racist.

P.S.  This thread is about BTC.
*sigh* no. IQ tests are simply pattern recognition. There is nothing cultural about it. That tired old excuse is... tiresome.

And they do commit more crime. About four or five times as much per capita. Again, easy enough to look up for anyone who actually cares.

Socio-economic status is a far more reliable predictor of IQ test performance.  Low SES children consistently underperform
You got it reversed. Low social status and poverty is a result of low IQ.

The strongest predictor of socioeconomic status is the SES of your parents. On that basis only smart babies choose to be born to wealthy parents  Grin
IQ is mostly genetic. There is literally nothing we can do about it, as far as we currently know. Blame your parents if you wish.
I disagree with that notion. IQ is a statistical measure of rather arbitrary test results of tests that can be practiced for. If you really cared you could increase your IQ to 120~140ish by sheer effort. From that point onward we're so far to the right of the mean that no tests really exist in sufficient volume.

There is a difference between IQ and Intelligence. The former being only an attempt to measure the latter.
The way I think of it is, there is intelligence and knowledge. IQ is like a processor, and knowledge is the programming.

Would you rather have a supercomputer that can only compute prime numbers, or a regular laptop that can do anything? Simply being smart is not enough, it has to be put to practical use.

He (rightly) objects to you that IQ is not intelligence, just a (failed) attempt to estimate it.
Your metaphor misses the point and proves just one thing: you don't understand what intelligence is.

But it's not your fault: your racist brain can't compute such alien concepts, it's intelligent-proof.



 
How does asserting that genetics play a factor in intelligence make him racist? There's bound to be at the very least some correlation.



449. Post 29856511 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
Hardly relevant to BTC, but an interesting topic IMO.

(snip)
How hard were they trying though? I recall reading a paper from one of the Ivy League universities that concluded that perfect pitch could not be learned in adulthood. And the argumentation, as well as the experiment itself, was lackluster to say the least.
Really hard. As in everything that can possibly be done within legal and ethical means. This is study time on google if that's not enough.
Perfect pitch appears to be dependent on both a genetic trait and a development window. Nature and nurture. The genetic trait is probably present in something like 20% of the population. The window of opportunity for actually having perfect pitch during adulthood roughly coincides with the window for native language learning.

Native speakers of tone languages (Chinese language/dialects, Thai etc) have a higher than average percentage of adults with perfect pitch. This is probably due to children being exposed to more-or-less fixed pitch sillables while that part of the brain is developing.

There are several studies that come to similar conclusions. I've read a few (say, at least a couple). I can't be bothered to look them up, but big G can help.
Yeah, early development is important for all sorts of things. Thing is, we lived in tribes for millions of years and that's the environment we are evolved for. Modern life is completely different, which makes it likely that we are doing things to our kids that are harmful to them. That's why it's so important to study these things. And not just for kids, but for all of us.
I've actually been thinking on and off about what I could do if I ever had kids during their infant periods. I don't buy that there's no development taking place just because they can't recall any memories. They don't know language, so at the very least there's a viable chance that infant memories get triggered by nonverbal cues that become irrelevant as one grows older. I'm quite curious as to whether or not one could instill synesthesia in a child by playing a pitch and associating it with a colour in some way.

I'm also not convinced that languages can only be picked up in childhood at a native level, at least not unequivocally.
I have a heavy accent whenever I don't speak English for a while, but given enough time I manage to fool natives. And I've also managed to memorize a single pitch that I can recall at will without reference, which is an experiment that I'd like to return to some day to see if I can get that up to a level where I could write down music as I hear it. It's time consuming and tedious as hell, but it seems possible to me.



450. Post 29857476 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 08, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Hardly relevant to BTC, but an interesting topic IMO.

(snip)
How hard were they trying though? I recall reading a paper from one of the Ivy League universities that concluded that perfect pitch could not be learned in adulthood. And the argumentation, as well as the experiment itself, was lackluster to say the least.
Really hard. As in everything that can possibly be done within legal and ethical means. This is study time on google if that's not enough.
Perfect pitch appears to be dependent on both a genetic trait and a development window. Nature and nurture. The genetic trait is probably present in something like 20% of the population. The window of opportunity for actually having perfect pitch during adulthood roughly coincides with the window for native language learning.

Native speakers of tone languages (Chinese language/dialects, Thai etc) have a higher than average percentage of adults with perfect pitch. This is probably due to children being exposed to more-or-less fixed pitch sillables while that part of the brain is developing.

There are several studies that come to similar conclusions. I've read a few (say, at least a couple). I can't be bothered to look them up, but big G can help.
Yeah, early development is important for all sorts of things. Thing is, we lived in tribes for millions of years and that's the environment we are evolved for. Modern life is completely different, which makes it likely that we are doing things to our kids that are harmful to them. That's why it's so important to study these things. And not just for kids, but for all of us.
I've actually been thinking on and off about what I could do if I ever had kids during their infant periods. I don't buy that there's no development taking place just because they can't recall any memories. They don't know language, so at the very least there's a viable chance that infant memories get triggered by nonverbal cues that become irrelevant as one grows older. I'm quite curious as to whether or not one could instill synesthesia in a child by playing a pitch and associating it with a colour in some way.

I'm also not convinced that languages can only be picked up in childhood at a native level, at least not unequivocally.
I have a heavy accent whenever I don't speak English for a while, but given enough time I manage to fool natives. And I've also managed to memorize a single pitch that I can recall at will without reference, which is an experiment that I'd like to return to some day to see if I can get that up to a level where I could write down music as I hear it. It's time consuming and tedious as hell, but it seems possible to me.
Simply being there is the biggest thing you can do at that stage. Fathers emit pheromones that likely has a positive influence on their development. That and make sure the mother is as relaxed and happy as reasonably possible.

A tribe is essentially one big family. It is a place of safety and protection from the outside world. Emulating that in the form of  traditional family seems like a good move.
That's the plan for me anyways. I don't intend on having children unless I know for sure that I'll have all the time in the world to be around those little fucks. I think if people were financially more stable and emotionally and intellectually mature before having children we wouldn't be observing this social justice shitshow right now, and there certainly wouldn't be a 99% class bitching about a 1% class either.
That aside, I do believe that exposing kids to as much information as possible while encouraging them to challenge themselves to go down one or two paths in more depth would make them vastly more capable than they would be otherwise. Especially if you let them go more or less freely about it while guiding them towards challenges without giving the solutions away. I wouldn't send them to school either, since they'd be far more productive by tracing their own interests, which can always be conflated with reading, writing, languages, Mathematics and science in interesting and playful ways. That's one thing that I'm looking forward to the most, but I'm not sure if the conditions will ever be right for me (reasonable wife at a reasonable time).



451. Post 29857575 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: noobtrader on February 08, 2018, 12:40:52 PM
European Banks Could Soon Hold Bitcoin, Admits ECB President

https://www.ccn.com/european-banks-soon-hold-bitcoin-admits-ecb-president/


If you can't stop it, HODL it!  Grin Grin Grin

  Shocked Shocked Shocked

with ECB start holding bitcoin,  i wonder at what price bitcoin will settle then  Huh   McAffee's bet seem achievable  afterall  Cheesy
The speakers on that ECB site only mentioned European banks, not the ECB itself. Not sure if they meant to include them or not. Doesn't the ECB more or less just print euros to loan out to banks?



452. Post 29862879 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 08, 2018, 01:56:26 PM
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
That's exactly what I would like to be able to figure out - partially, tentatively, doubtfully, of course. In another post, kurious said something to the effect "Exactness is not possible, but getting as close to it as we can is a noble art." I'm quoting from memory, words might be off. Well, that's exactly what I hope to do, and I'm asking for help from several points of view. The advanced conspiration theorist, the technical analyst, the macroeconomist, the street-wise long time exchange user. I'm none of that yet, but honing my gut feeling skills seems a worthy endeavour.
That depends on how much time and effort you are willing to expend, or alternatively money if you'd prefer hiring people.

The most accurate solution will be a well-balanced combination of multiple approaches, and the balancing act is something that can always be improved upon with new data. It's also very much possible to create fresh data from what you already know, which is to some extent what technical analysis does.

If you're not looking into algorithmic trading then your best bet is a combination of fundamental and technical analysis. If you're looking into algorithmic trading, you'll find no upper ceiling no matter how many resources you throw at the problem.

If you're manually trading you may want to consider trading on different time scales simultaneously (minutes/hours/days/weeks/months), both for better hedging and for accelerated self-improvement. There are also altcoins that are "negatively" correlated to BTC/USD (e.g. they do the opposite of what BTC/USD does), which can be used fairly easily to increase your stashes during periods of extreme volatility on any time scale.



453. Post 29866471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 08, 2018, 02:57:06 PM
“I’ll take “roach rant” for $100 please,Alex..”

“The answer is...
The Jewish conspiracy...
Silver is god...
Bitfinex is a scam.”

(Buzzes in)
“What three things does every roach rant repeat ad finitum!?”

DING DING!

At least one of those has some meat to it I guess. Too bad he's not providing anything new to the table.



454. Post 29868386 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 08, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
No idea what exactly the chain thingy does. But just take a pen and a piece of paper and crunch some numbers. That way you'll get a proper feel for what you'll want to try to do much quicker than by reading a verbal explanation.



455. Post 29870391 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 08, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

The secret to trading is just doing the exact opposite of whatever the paid shills are spamming.  Like the r0ach report 15 days ago detailing paid govt shills telling people to dump metals and buy DOW + cryptocurrency and then both of them collapsing right afterwards:

http://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-36-paid-govt-shills-spotted-telling-people-to-dump-metals-and-buy-dow-cryptocurrency

If you hadn't noticed metals dumped too you idiot. Your credibility just keeps hitting ATLs.
You don't get it. You're supposed to do the exact opposite of what the paid shills are spamming. So if you listened to him, you would've sold metals and made a profit.



456. Post 29876349 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 08, 2018, 04:36:17 PM
To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
That's exactly what I would like to be able to figure out - partially, tentatively, doubtfully, of course. In another post, kurious said something to the effect "Exactness is not possible, but getting as close to it as we can is a noble art." I'm quoting from memory, words might be off. Well, that's exactly what I hope to do, and I'm asking for help from several points of view. The advanced conspiration theorist, the technical analyst, the macroeconomist, the street-wise long time exchange user. I'm none of that yet, but honing my gut feeling skills seems a worthy endeavour.
That depends on how much time and effort you are willing to expend, or alternatively money if you'd prefer hiring people.

The most accurate solution will be a well-balanced combination of multiple approaches, and the balancing act is something that can always be improved upon with new data. It's also very much possible to create fresh data from what you already know, which is to some extent what technical analysis does.

If you're not looking into algorithmic trading then your best bet is a combination of fundamental and technical analysis. If you're looking into algorithmic trading, you'll find no upper ceiling no matter how many resources you throw at the problem.

If you're manually trading you may want to consider trading on different time scales simultaneously (minutes/hours/days/weeks/months), both for better hedging and for accelerated self-improvement. There are also altcoins that are "negatively" correlated to BTC/USD (e.g. they do the opposite of what BTC/USD does), which can be used fairly easily to increase your stashes during periods of extreme volatility on any time scale.
I'm no real trader, but I do have a small part of my holdings loose in the wild - mostly learning and making the occasional small profit. Got a few lessons already, at reasonable prices.

Thanks for the advice about multiple scales. The algorithmic thingy really tickles me, especially if it can be steered/tweaked while it runs. Can you suggest any good reference?
I don't really know what is available "on the market" in terms of trading bots, so I can't give you any reference in that regard. The ones that I've seen that were available to the public all had the flaw that they get annihilated during both pumps and dumps, mostly due to oversimplified rules. They were pretty decent in sideways markets and not easy to produce without experience, but you certainly wouldn't want to leave them running 24/7 without attending to them. And the ones that have the capacity of somewhat steering clear P&Ds will either cost a lot or not be available at all, as they would lower the profitability of whoever created the bot.

So the best option would be to program your own. For that purpose, Python would be great for the Machine Learning part (reading data, learning patterns and self-adjusting) and C++ for optimization (if you wanted to run a large amount of computers in parallel to process more data). From scratch this will take a while to get running (weeks to years depending on your background), but it's worth exploring since that's something that would be relevant for the rest of your life.

Edit: There's also Google's TensorFlow which is basically a high efficiency Machine Learning library that cherry picks the best of both worlds (Python/cpp).



457. Post 29876735 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: vroom on February 08, 2018, 05:31:43 PM
BCASH pump&dump beginning!
Ready to make money! Cool

Why do I hate these bcash idiots so much?
Because of their sleazy tactics?



458. Post 29919693 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 09, 2018, 10:27:39 AM

What if Elon Musk just committed the perfect murder?


 Shocked

That would really be something ..... movie material
Would be a premise so much better than whatever came out of Hollywood in the past god knows how many years.



459. Post 29922312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 08, 2018, 11:59:53 PM


Btw the topic of this thread is - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion


Bite me.

 What do you guys think about fountain pens?  I'm thinking about picking up a Naminki maki-e.


https://i.imgur.com/eY5gfZ6.jpg

 Aren't they beautiful?  A little pricey but not as much as a lambo.

I want one of those, damn.



460. Post 29925147 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 09, 2018, 12:13:13 PM
"Buy bitcoin" looks very good on google trends since yesterday.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&q=buy%20bitcoin


Ghana #1 interest by region. Inb4 third world countries become the new first world?



461. Post 29925216 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 09, 2018, 12:12:16 PM
oh fuck

where IS Rosewater?

and speaking of brown pants...when was the last BMB sighting?


I was thinking to bring the mayor out just to distribute his wealth of spendable merits. But that crash broke my heart. So I've been drinking.
Ahhaha sybil problems Roll Eyes
wait oh oh sorry to hear that part Shocked
and I expect more broken hearts are incoming
best to stay comfortably numb till the bears are finally given the coup de grace.

Whats appropriate to drown your sorrows in a crypto crash? Pabst Blue Ribbon?  Rebel Yell? Chinese cooking wine? Listerine Mouth Wash?
Isn't cooking wine filled with salt?



462. Post 29925842 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 09, 2018, 12:24:19 PM

What if Elon Musk just committed the perfect murder?


 Shocked

That would really be something ..... movie material

What an epic opportunity lost to send a Bitcoin paperwallet beyond Mars inside the Tesla's glove box compartment.


You will never know!!! Smiley (pardon... "we" )  Roll Eyes

But it would be way better if we knew the public address to send our gifts to future potential alien civilisations.... oh, what a great scam idea have I just had... Maybe even ICO potential Smiley
Imagine all the future people racing their spacecrafts into space Teslas to try and find a private key that is not there.



463. Post 29926415 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 09, 2018, 12:32:03 PM

What if Elon Musk just committed the perfect murder?


 Shocked

That would really be something ..... movie material

What an epic opportunity lost to send a Bitcoin paperwallet beyond Mars inside the Tesla's glove box compartment.


You will never know!!! Smiley (pardon... "we" )  Roll Eyes

But it would be way better if we knew the public address to send our gifts to future potential alien civilisations.... oh, what a great scam idea have I just had... Maybe even ICO potential Smiley
Imagine all the future people racing their spacecrafts into space Teslas to try and find a private key that is not there.

Not need to think that far in time... Just imagine the shock when I go and redeem the private key myself.

P.S.: The picture itself has great Bitcoin potential... maybe one of the resident photoshop wizards could stamp a nice Bitcoin logo on the hood and pretend it is Satoshi driving it?
It would be way more fun to redeem it after the first people try to get the key themselves though. Sad



464. Post 29927421 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 09, 2018, 12:45:18 PM
What if I told you it's satoshi in that car?
Everyone would say 'huh cool'

What if I told you it's Craig Wright the fraudulent satoshi beloved of bcashers?
Immediate worldwide year-long fiesta.

Verified account @alistairmilne
A large Bitcoin ATM network added Bcash to its machines ... labelled as 'Bitcoin Cash'
100's of support tickets later, it was removed due to lost funds, complaints it wasn't Bitcoin, etc.
Bcash passing off as Bitcoin is losing normal people money


-needs moar hardforks
Is there a source for the BCash ATM story? Looks beautiful.



465. Post 29933291 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 09, 2018, 02:06:21 PM
Rand Paul unleashed an epic rant against the U.S. spending bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEb_vAzYlQ8

Bet against the national debt! Buy Bitcoin!
The comments on that video are spectacular. I'm amazed at how loud people with absolutely zero understanding of economics are time and time again.



466. Post 29933358 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 09, 2018, 01:56:01 PM
Any hold above $8k for the next 3 days, or a small dip below and then quickly back up above $8k, would be extremely bullish.

Last time it breached the 200EMA within 9 weeks of ATH was in 2011 and it wasn't as deep.

True. I'm surprised we got there so soon tbh. Also bullish.
I'm quite happy that we went down now, and not later. This retracement just primes a more stable run into the 6 figures I would guess.



467. Post 29935471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 09, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
Also I see tech advancements are quite astonishing: when the market realizes what Bitcoin is achieving nowadays these price levels will be memory.

I'm already looking forward to the day when folks that think Bitcoin is overvalued now, their jaws dropping open when it hits $50k. Could happen in as little as 2-3 years.
Folks that think Bitcoin is overvalued don't understand its potential whatsoever. $50k would still be pretty low.



468. Post 29939246 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 09, 2018, 03:51:16 PM


LOL!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43003740

Quote
Russian security officers have arrested several scientists working at a top-secret Russian nuclear warhead facility for allegedly mining crypto-currencies.

The suspects had tried to use one of Russia's most powerful supercomputers to mine Bitcoins, media reports say.
You can't make this shit up. I love reality.



469. Post 29944544 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 09, 2018, 05:12:24 PM
oh fuck

where IS Rosewater?

and speaking of brown pants...when was the last BMB sighting?


I was thinking to bring the mayor out just to distribute his wealth of spendable merits. But that crash broke my heart. So I've been drinking.
Ahhaha sybil problems Roll Eyes
wait oh oh sorry to hear that part Shocked
and I expect more broken hearts are incoming
best to stay comfortably numb till the bears are finally given the coup de grace.

When I was a child I had a fever. My hands swelled up like two balloons.  Now I got that feeling once again. I cannot explain, but you might understand..
Just remember that nothing really changes for the worse even if things went south here. And there are plenty of other opportunities if you're really intent on making a fortune.



470. Post 29944982 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 09, 2018, 05:24:07 PM
The good lord came knocking with a bag of riches months ago. I told him it wasn't enough so he left. Undecided
He's on his way with more bags.



471. Post 29945462 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: infofront on February 09, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
The good lord came knocking with a bag of riches months ago. I told him it wasn't enough so he left. Undecided

I might be in the same boat. I'll either retire early with lambos filled with hookers and blow, or I'll die as a Walmart greeter (having already died inside long before).
A bet worth taking.



472. Post 29946307 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on February 09, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
Hold off on the wal-mart applications, we just cracked $8640.
Time to sell, weee! Cool



473. Post 29946418 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 09, 2018, 05:48:31 PM
This is a bubble now, right? Huh
A ponzi.



474. Post 29946786 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 09, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
I get the sinking suspicion Wall St controls the price now. I'm probably wrong, but I can't shake it.
That would mean that all the oldschool Bitcoiners dumped their loads. I'd have a hard time believing that. Unless you mean from a propaganda angle.



475. Post 29947118 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 09, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
I get the sinking suspicion Wall St controls the price now. I'm probably wrong, but I can't shake it.
That would mean that all the oldschool Bitcoiners dumped their loads. I'd have a hard time believing that. Unless you mean from a propaganda angle.
MSM has definitely taken over as lead shill/troll. Regarding distribution, I really don't know anymore.
I would be quite surprised if the supply wasn't heavily centralized. That's just how things work in general, since the majority of people sucks at games of any kind due to a lack of patience and stress resistance. But I don't see WS buying up a million Bitcoins without triggering a serious pump. Unless they got them off-exchanges. But who would actually sell larger quantities to them when we're just getting started?



476. Post 29947990 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: gembitz on February 09, 2018, 06:13:25 PM
Bitcoin Judas on the defensive on Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=72&v=qw9YEvFkxxc

Roger Ver Quote of  the Day:
Quote
Bcash is a completely separate project, not related to Bitcoin Cash.

he didn't get the memo? : bitcoin cash = beecash Wink weee
IT'S NOT BCASH YOU POOR FUCKS!!!1

Edit: Are we allowed to curse or is this SoCal?



477. Post 29948607 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 09, 2018, 06:24:55 PM
breakout


I still don't understand why that game was so addictive.



478. Post 29979476 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: mike4001 on February 10, 2018, 07:53:16 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
That's to be expected considering that there is only one Bitcoin and over a thousand altcoins. I don't really see an issue with that though, especially when considering that most altcoins are bound to eventually evaporate like dot com companies and the likes.



479. Post 29979617 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: somac. on February 10, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
Its likely part of a cycle - I (speculatively) can see an alt bubble followed by a BTC surge

Its been a few days since I've checked all the prices and I must say I am stunned that the alts are coming back so hard.

I hope you're right starmman, but, it just doesn't look like BTC will ever regain its dominance to even the 50% level. Hell, look at ripple up 50%, people were wiped out on that recently and it just doesn't seem to matter. I consider most alts to be shit, but, I guess when it's all speculating it doesn't really matter that they are shit.
Altcoins are predominantly denominated in BTC. So when BTC goes up by X%, alts will usually go up by at least X% as well in terms of USD. This will cause people to think that alts are entering a bull run, which might trigger buy orders that will drive up their price in terms of BTC as well, which will ultimately lead to a price rise above the X% of BTC in terms of USD.



480. Post 29980007 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: somac. on February 10, 2018, 08:33:21 AM
Its been a few days since I've checked all the prices and I must say I am stunned that the alts are coming back so hard.

I hope you're right starmman, but, it just doesn't look like BTC will ever regain its dominance to even the 50% level. Hell, look at ripple up 50%, people were wiped out on that recently and it just doesn't seem to matter. I consider most alts to be shit, but, I guess when it's all speculating it doesn't really matter that they are shit.
Altcoins are predominantly denominated in BTC. So when BTC goes up by X%, alts will usually go up by at least X% as well in terms of USD. This will cause people to think that alts are entering a bull run, which might trigger buy orders that will drive up their price in terms of BTC as well, which will ultimately lead to a price rise above the X% of BTC in terms of USD.

Why is that happening only now and not before?
Volume. There's much more people interested in catching the next "big coin" that buy up altcoins these days. Not too long ago alts were largely frowned upon (for good reasons), but this is slowly changing with innovation and adoption.



481. Post 29980097 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: somac. on February 10, 2018, 08:31:59 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
That's to be expected considering that there is only one Bitcoin and over a thousand altcoins. I don't really see an issue with that though, especially when considering that most altcoins are bound to eventually evaporate like dot com companies and the likes.

With the number of coins slowly losing dominance over time is expected, but, this loss has been quick. What's more, we are likely close to another coin becoming the market leader. Can you imagine that, A banker coin like ripple, and a broken dictator coin like ethereum becoming the peoples choice.

I should never of expected different I guess, most people in this world are dumb arse sheep only care about profits rather than making the financial system better.

This effect is bound to accelerate with the growth of the overall crypto market. The more people buy into Bitcoin, the more people will find interest in altcoins and the larger the potential volume that can trigger growth in altcoins will become. It's a snowball effect.
A question that I find interesting is whether or not Bitcoin will regain dominance massively once the "big crash" comes and useless shitcoins as well as all the ponzis and scams get obliterated.



482. Post 29996015 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: mymenace on February 10, 2018, 09:33:58 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
Its likely part of a cycle - I (speculatively) can see an alt bubble followed by a BTC surge

Its been a few days since I've checked all the prices and I must say I am stunned that the alts are coming back so hard.

I hope you're right starmman, but, it just doesn't look like BTC will ever regain its dominance to even the 50% level. Hell, look at ripple up 50%, people were wiped out on that recently and it just doesn't seem to matter. I consider most alts to be shit, but, I guess when it's all speculating it doesn't really matter that they are shit.


Market cap and bitcoin dominance can be a misleading indicator for all the reasons that you already stated... so in that regard, people who understand the value of bitcoin are going to realize that bitcoin is the one to buy rather than gambling on those many other alt coins - and useful also NOT to get distracted by coinmarket cap, at least in terms of informing you about the dominance of BTC's fundamentals in comparison to any (and all) of the other coins.

Crypto War successful and ongoing (block size, transactions, hard forks, media)

create less reliance on bitcoin and more on centralized tokens

pump alts, sell tokens to newbs

create national tokens (russia coin, Petro coin etc), pump for newbs

sell into bitcoin - big pump (Huge) before next battle on bitcoin exchanges (corrupt, broke, no reserves, multiple exchanges as well as other btc scams)

legislate exchange and ban btc to promote national crypto

btc crash and they hope for good

lets see how it all pans out (within next 10 months)

It's going to take a whole hell of a lot longer than 10 months for all of these things to play out.

I agree with you mymenace that a lot of these things are happening and a lot of like things are going to happen in the crypto space and maybe even attempts to target and to undermine bitcoin, but even if a lot of these things happen all over the globe, it does not result in bitcoin successfully being stagnated and repressed, even though there might be some shorter-term and localized successes that might only last a short period of time because bitcoin is all over the fucking place, and there are a lot of governmental difficulties to coordinate, even if BIG ASS financial players attempt to coordinate their attacks on bitcoin, even the BIG ASS financial players are not sufficiently unified to pull off some kind of successful unified repression of bitcoin on a world-wide basis...

TLDR - bitcoin has become too BIG, too decentralized and too strong to kill...  the toothpaste is out of the tube, and it's like trying to kill the internet; good luck with that..

I agree, completely

just mentioning the enemies tactics, usually successful

yeah bitcoin just seems too damn strong a network to change though



and the attacks begin again, just reading this

https://www.rt.com/business/418390-france-germany-bitcoin-clampdown/

From the enemy themselves the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), direct from the IMF



"ECB board member Yves Mersch said on Thursday that “cryptocurrencies” are “not money, nor will they be for the foreseeable future.”"

So we either have a pathological liar or a donkey who doesn't understand what money is in the board of the ECB.



483. Post 29996332 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: rolling on February 10, 2018, 09:43:57 AM

Doesn't matter what I think, and as you said "people who understand the value of bitcoin". Newbies don't understand shit, but, they do understand metrics like market cap, so it will hurt bitcoin. If bitcoin is not number one on the shitty marketcap metric that will hurt bitcoin adoption plain and simple.

What do the advertisers say? "you don't need a good product, just good marketing"

In that case, bitcoin was fucked from day one. 21 million coins for the entire world economy was never going to work. Most world citizens (>99%) have never had $8750 at one time in their lives. They will never buy bitcoin at that price. They will buy Ripple for $1 instead.

EDIT: Yes, I know they are divisible but the average idiot can't comprehend that.

The real problem though is that the idiots don't understand the importance or decentralization, lack of a central authority, deflationary monetary system, developer talent, trustless, and so on. Bitcoin is the best coin without a doubt in my opinion. But, how in the fuck can we get mass adoption, when most people still think the media, and governments are the good guys. Crypto will get mass adoption, but, I fear that it will be a bullshit coin supported by the banks, media, and governments.



I agree, I think the coins that will do the best with the coming mass adoption will be the ones who have the largest number of coins in circulation so they seem cheap to the idiots. Why buy a bitcoin when you can buy 10 ETH or 8000 XRP for the same price? Luckily, big institutional money will still flow into bitcoin.
I strongly believe that the altcoin market will become a modernized carbon copy of the equity markets. Once revenue participation becomes a factor smart money will flow into whatever is guaranteed to be profitable, and the sheep will eventually follow or get shorn, just like with stocks right now. The substantial differences will consist of more transparency (for established companies), more efficiency (lower fees, no closing of exchanges etc.), and easier access (which will also imply more scams and unsuccessful companies going "public" than with stocks).

The "cheap coin" bullshit that we can see on this forum every so often from newbies will eventually be fixed by "conventional wisdom" of the masses, which will end up as yet another predictor or tool for smart money.



484. Post 29996436 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: julian071 on February 10, 2018, 01:40:27 PM
Quote
"ECB board member Yves Mersch said on Thursday that “cryptocurrencies” are “not money, nor will they be for the foreseeable future.”"

So we eithr have a pathological liar or a donkey who doesn't understand what money is in the board of the ECB.

Hmmm incompetent or liar? Hard choice, but I vote for liar.
That would be my vote as well, although I'm not completely sure based on what I've seen even so called quantitative Economists spout in institutions of higher education.



485. Post 29996577 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 10, 2018, 12:34:47 PM
Dogecoin, an utter joke, always has been, always will be.

At least is still decentralized, and the inflation rate is known. There are several worse scams in the top 10 cryptos, not to say of the rest.

That said, the mass will be always scammed, in one way or the other. But being scammed with shitcoins is an huge progress because it's voluntary, so it teaches responsibility and it let ppl's awareness grow instead of being reduced to spoiled brats of the government.
Doge isn't a scam. It was incepted as a self-aware meme. And frankly speaking I'd be more willing to use Doge than fiat currency if the infrastructure existed. I wouldn't throw money at it, but in the case of a binary choice between fiat and Doge where Doge could be spent just as easily as fiat I would go with the latter any day.



486. Post 30001052 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 10, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
That's to be expected considering that there is only one Bitcoin and over a thousand altcoins. I don't really see an issue with that though, especially when considering that most altcoins are bound to eventually evaporate like dot com companies and the likes.

Yeah, the % dominance thing on coinmarketcap is a complete farce. Since they count literally every new shitcoin they add to the list, then every time a shitcoin gets added to their listing, and then it wash trades a few coins up to a $1M market cap, Bitcoin's % dominance goes down. So '% dominance' is a meaningless metric now.

There were 1400 coins listed in Nov. Now there are 1516. So 116 new shitcoins added to coinmarketcap in the last two months.

What does that tell you?
That Bitcoin has got to be one hell of a mighty beast to still have such a massive market share. The dominance metric should be removed or replaced though, perhaps only count the top 100 coins, or only coins that surpass a certain threshold.



487. Post 30001280 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: romneymoney on February 10, 2018, 02:56:27 PM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
That's to be expected considering that there is only one Bitcoin and over a thousand altcoins. I don't really see an issue with that though, especially when considering that most altcoins are bound to eventually evaporate like dot com companies and the likes.

Yeah, the % dominance thing on coinmarketcap is a complete farce. Since they count literally every new shitcoin they add to the list, then every time a shitcoin gets added to their listing, and then it wash trades a few coins up to a $1M market cap, Bitcoin's % dominance goes down. So '% dominance' is a meaningless metric now.

There were 1400 coins listed in Nov. Now there are 1516. So 116 new shitcoins added to coinmarketcap in the last two months.

What does that tell you?
I think that's a good fair point I hadn't considered before really.  Many of these coins with small to mid "market caps" on cmc are probably worth a fraction of the reported value.  I don't think it necessarily applies to the larger cap coins though.  If you remove the "other" from the chart it's still a fairly major chunk of dominance that has shifted.
If you watch the charts very regularly you'll notice wash traded coins popping up and disappearing on a quite frequent basis. Part of me wants to just throw small bucks at every shitcoin just to sell the washed up pumps, but that gambling part of me can't compete with the part that seeks predictable metrics of value. I also don't feel like supporting their scammy little shit games just to turn some extra profits.



488. Post 30002716 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

When did CMC re-add Korean exchanges to the average calculations?



489. Post 30005522 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

There aren't all that many days in crypto that aren't interesting. Tongue



490. Post 30010357 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 10, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
For me, bitcoin is the shitcoin. First of its kind, but useless.

You sad, myopic bastard.

I've been playing with my lightning node over the past few days, and yeah, it's still rough and very much a work in progress, but goddamn is it ever impressive tech.

I have seen a glimpse of the future of Bitcorn, and it is very bright.
But when will it pop?



491. Post 30012403 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Dabs on February 10, 2018, 05:56:17 PM
It will pop back down to 40k, after it pops at around 150k. No source. Just gut feel. No guts no glory!
I thought corn popped only once!



492. Post 30045567 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: explorer on February 10, 2018, 07:44:37 PM

"ECB board member Yves Mersch said on Thursday that “cryptocurrencies” are “not money, nor will they be for the foreseeable future.”"

So we either have a pathological liar or a donkey who doesn't understand what money is in the board of the ECB.
Or just lacks vision.

[/quote]
If that was the issue he would be making direct references to failing points instead of calling bubbles, wash trading and ponzi schemes on Bitcoin itself, which I do not believe he has done.



493. Post 30046679 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 11, 2018, 12:50:38 AM
@_Kevin_Pham
3h3 hours ago

The Crypto Times - 2/11/18:

"Vitalik on brink of second bailout for incompetent Ethereum devs with political clout."

ref https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-devs-call-public-debate-fund-recovery/

Just started playing around with RootStock. I'm liking what I see so far.

Tell us more about what you see and what you like please.
I'm very much interested in hearing that as well.

On a similar note, how much longer do you think Ethereum will be able to call itself decentralized with all those bailouts?



494. Post 30048674 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 11, 2018, 07:59:05 AM
The whole crypto world is kind of laughable right now.
The most ridiculous point is ALL of them are going up and down roughly the same %.
This is idiotic from a rational point of view.
One day up 20%, next day, down 20%.
Explanation: more FUD on Monday?
BTC leads the way(do I get merits for this?)
More FUD till price reaches 2k (do I lose merits for this?)
Might want to check out the logarithmic chart, which pretty much says that the bottom has already been in at around 6 to 8k when compared to the last big crash.



495. Post 30048728 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Lontonbit on February 11, 2018, 08:06:18 AM
What kind of idiot would sell after a 65% drop?
"Only two things are infinite. The universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former one."



496. Post 30057460 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Shouldn't an Economist at the NYU at least be smart enough to factor out the monetary supply? Would sure be nice to see someone in such a position making educated assessments rather than spreading propaganda or bullshit statements that don't hold under scrutiny.

https://twitter.com
Nouriel/status/962479746444652544



497. Post 30057565 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 11, 2018, 10:27:26 AM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST        

[...]

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK !!!

BITCOIN??   Just ———-> hodl that shit  keep innovating/ adapting/ learning/buying/ not panicing/decentralize and So on .........

And get quick @24777 Just for new future list games getting bored on This one Wink

And Some say same old shit please like NEXT 24 h are critical Wink or .......

I think the game will become very exciting again as much as we are closer to the target price. It's funny that even if the prize is worth a VERY considerable amount (more so when the price is reached) many people would prefer someone else to win if that means we reach the price sooner than our expected date.

To put things in perspective, when the prize is claimed, it will have a worth in FIAT of more than $6000USD!... And everyone will be enjoying the party, probably still celebrating having broken $20K just a few days/weeks before.

Really anxious for that day to come Smiley

It really is a win-win game for HODLers.

Thanks, @micgoossens

If I win, I'm changing my birthday.  Wink


Only lose - lose for me and i’m a hodler as well :-/
But i do not take iT from my actually hodling stack ..... When a dip i buy the promised amount more and keep iT apart So iT doesn’t heart me at all Wink


Win-win-win for you @mcgoossens b/c  now all your coins are worth $24777
you made new friends  & entertained the masses
You actually might change someone's life....seriously.
Win-win karma points.

If you put iT This way then i hope iT Goes to someone Where its been appriciated as a life-changer Wink acctualy Just hope iT Goes to a coiner and please not to a change iT for quick money type of person Wink
That would be nice. Let's hope that the universe tends to allocate resources where they are most needed in the grand picture of things.



498. Post 30059640 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 11, 2018, 10:53:08 AM
The illusion of 'having money'

plus comsumption taxes plus capital gains etc.
Plus overly strict regulations. Plus political nonsense that stifles human progress.



499. Post 30071687 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: ivomm on February 11, 2018, 02:04:05 PM
I rose the price $400 with one train pic. Just imagine if we all started posting train pics.






i am willing to give it a try. let's see if this leads to another leg up.

Let's hope... unless some bear breaks it up. These beasts are hard to kill;D Cheesy Grin

Just throw some salmons at them.



500. Post 30073827 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Millionero on February 11, 2018, 02:25:02 PM
When number of pages in this thread equals the btc/usd ATH, will it then drop to 6k pages?
Keeping fingers crossed.
The ATH already passed the number of pages last year, but apparently the page count didn't get the message. Let's see what happens during the next round. Tongue



501. Post 30079616 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 11, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
ok stupid question time again.

what does "iT" stand for?? i see it all the time and cant figure it out from its usage.

With me its because of the stupid iPhone word correct.... make allways iT from it.....
Damn Apple trying to take credit for the entire IT industry.


Quote from: Millionero on February 11, 2018, 03:35:04 PM
When number of pages in this thread equals the btc/usd ATH, will it then drop to 6k pages?
Keeping fingers crossed.
The ATH already passed the number of pages last year, but apparently the page count didn't get the message. Let's see what happens during the next round. Tongue
Is page count a leading indicator or a lagging indicator?
Right now it's a leading indicator. Tongue



502. Post 30082929 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 11, 2018, 04:53:10 PM
Shouldn't an Economist at the NYU at least be smart enough to factor out the monetary supply? Would sure be nice to see someone in such a position making educated assessments rather than spreading propaganda or bullshit statements that don't hold under scrutiny.

https://twitter.com
Nouriel/status/962479746444652544

I think we are giving this guy too much importance on the most read thread of the whole forum. You know how PageRank works? Let the economist out of our house. Leave him with his obsession and let him live with his grandeur
Indeed. We could at least try not to bump PageRank too much by using half-cooked links as in

https://twitter.com/
Nouriel/status/962479746444652544

(The line break makes the difference.)
Edited. So meta.



503. Post 30088229 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: 600watt on February 11, 2018, 05:12:07 PM

Did the police plant sacks of cocaine under that bear to dupe him?



504. Post 30095206 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 11, 2018, 06:45:48 PM
When number of pages in this thread equals the btc/usd ATH, will it then drop to 6k pages?
Keeping fingers crossed.
The ATH already passed the number of pages last year, but apparently the page count didn't get the message. Let's see what happens during the next round. Tongue
Is page count a leading indicator or a lagging indicator?

it is the mean to which the price will revert
Brilliant. I'm ashamed I didn't come up with that despite my training in Mathematics.


Quote from: Elwar on February 11, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Shouldn't an Economist at the NYU at least be smart enough to factor out the monetary supply? Would sure be nice to see someone in such a position making educated assessments rather than spreading propaganda or bullshit statements that don't hold under scrutiny.

https://twitter.com/Nouriel/status/962479746444652544


Re: Bitcoin is the biggest bubble in history. Glenn Beck even did a show about it.

All they factor in is percentage rise, not market cap. Beck said that when the bitcoin bubble bursts it would be worse than the dotcom bubble and the housing bubble combined. Silly because there are so few people affected.

If you want the biggest bubble in history I have one that is bigger.

My brother had an ice cream cone when I was a kid. I told him I'd give him 1 cent for it. He said no. At that point the price per ice cream cone was $.01. Then I offered $1. He said no. So I offered him $10. Knowing I didn't have that much money he again said no. I then offered him $1 million for the ice cream cone. He said I don't have that much money. So I said I have 50 cents and offered him 50 cents for it.

In the span of 5 minutes the price of one ice cream cone went up millions of percent and then the bubble popped and crashed. That was the biggest bubble in history. It should be recorded. The economic impact was felt for years after that, the recovery felt by all.
Never heard of that dude. Doesn't seem like he's worth knowing either if he argues like a toddler?



505. Post 30096208 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 11, 2018, 08:30:27 PM
Oh cool, war talk!


Where's that story about the elephant and the ants? I know some elephants avoid plants that have ants, but they don't bring down the elephants.


I think it was something said during the war. Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers).

Please stop repeating nonsense someone told you before you at least check the facts once. If you bothered to do that, you would find:


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)

Does this look to you like elephant and ants? Something else was the reason why Soviets defeated Hitler, and it's not the number of soldiers.
The ruski numbers are way higher (why does this need pointing out?). So yeah, ants. Also, they were in the r phase of the cultural cycle during the war, so they definitely relied more on numbers than quality. Some of their soldiers were tasked with shooting anyone who fled from the front lines, for fucks sake.

Repeating nonsense will not make it true. On what do you base your claims these numbers are not true? It's common reaction not tot accept the facts when facts doesn't suite your prejudices and beliefs. Smart people rather question their beliefs then questions the facts. Doubt is good, it's a source of knowledge.
Look. Look at the fucking numbers you are quoting. Where do you see higher numbers on the axis side? Point it out. Dickwad.
No seriously, what the fuck happened here?
Perhaps he compared the bold figures only and considered the gaps to not be large enough to justify those metaphors? Fuck knows.



506. Post 30099514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: itod on February 11, 2018, 09:30:13 PM
Oh cool, war talk!


Where's that story about the elephant and the ants? I know some elephants avoid plants that have ants, but they don't bring down the elephants.


I think it was something said during the war. Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers).

Please stop repeating nonsense someone told you before you at least check the facts once. If you bothered to do that, you would find:


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)

Does this look to you like elephant and ants? Something else was the reason why Soviets defeated Hitler, and it's not the number of soldiers.
The ruski numbers are way higher (why does this need pointing out?). So yeah, ants. Also, they were in the r phase of the cultural cycle during the war, so they definitely relied more on numbers than quality. Some of their soldiers were tasked with shooting anyone who fled from the front lines, for fucks sake.

Repeating nonsense will not make it true. On what do you base your claims these numbers are not true? It's common reaction not tot accept the facts when facts doesn't suite your prejudices and beliefs. Smart people rather question their beliefs then questions the facts. Doubt is good, it's a source of knowledge.
Look. Look at the fucking numbers you are quoting. Where do you see higher numbers on the axis side? Point it out. Dickwad.
No seriously, what the fuck happened here?

Happened that I'm tired arguing with you about obvious. You stated:
Quote
Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers)
and I've shoved you the figures that in 1944 when the Germans where truly defeated there were 3,370,000 Hitler's fighters confronted to 6,425,000 Soviet fighters. If that complies with your definition of one elephant vs huge number of ants then I'm out of the discussion. You are right that those 3,3M fighters had better technology, were better trained, had superior command infrastructure and still they are defeated by 6.4M fighters. It certainly was not the "ant psychology" that gained victory with such less then 1:2 number difference.
20m vs 3,8m paints quite a different picture.



507. Post 30119357 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: mymenace on February 12, 2018, 12:49:45 AM
The curious question about the jews is why does nobody like them? Hitler was not the first Hitler, and he won't be the last. The jews have been kicked out of hundreds of places around the world over the last few thousand years. But why? What is it about them that makes them so detestable to, apparently, most of the world?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

When i read this over a few years back i went

ARE U FOR FXXKIN REAL


lets displace millions of people

now i do not hate followers (brainwashed) of evil c$%nts

but what was done here is inexcusable


"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object"

Why why why

why if I am British do I give a flying f#$ck about these people

Because countries are to a large extent just pawns on the chessboard of a few mentally deranged clowns that care more about stupid games than advancing humanity. I wonder how many more revolutions and generations it will take before governments either disappear entirely or start acting in the interest of humanity.



508. Post 30119536 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: RoomBot on February 12, 2018, 07:47:20 AM
ok stupid question time again.

what does "iT" stand for?? i see it all the time and cant figure it out from its usage.

With me its because of the stupid iPhone word correct.... make allways iT from it.....
Damn Apple trying to take credit for the entire IT industry.



and every "it" that ever was!
If you believed (contemporary) Apple fans that would actually be true. If I had never seen how ridiculous human behaviour can get I wouldn't believe God himself if he descended and told me that Apple was the most successful company on planet earth. I was very fond of it under Jobs, when the first iPods came out at a time where MP3 players barely fit a single album, but holy fuck has Apple turned into unimaginative and uninnovative shit.



509. Post 30119973 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 12, 2018, 01:30:28 AM

I am not believing that number. I guess instead of getting pictures next to huge piles of drugs and money they can just say "we found 20 million bitcoins on his computer".

Yup, it doesn't make sense for soooo many reasons:

1- Even if that amount were total revenue is still a lot for that marketplace nowadays

2- Much less if it is profit, as it should be in order to be stashed and sizeable

3- Even if it were (well, it isn't) it is VERY improbable that someone "owning" that amount would have not stopped and run long ago. Because, 1) if your dark market is so huge you know it will be taken down very soon 2) Being able to cash out that much is basically impossible if you can't prove a legit origin... so why risk trying to make more?

4- If all the previous is not enough.... He would have take precautions to split and secure his stash in different ways as to making basically impossible to seize it all, or even a major part of it. So... should be assume his holdings/profits were even higher that 100,000BTC?

Yeah, complete bullshit... I don't even think we are talking here about 10,000BTC seized.... but, at least, that would have been a somewhat reasonable figure. Most probably they sized almost NIL and that is just an "estimation" of what could be "inside" the seized equipment of the evil kingping.
If the profits were accumulated over several years then 100,000 BTC wouldn't really be a lot. Especially if they reinvested some of the proceeds into altcoins. Even at last year's $1000 per BTC the profits would "only" have to be 80~100 million. Go another year back and you're in the several dozen million range, which I don't think would be all that far fetched for a large scale drug operation. And turning 10m into 100m with altcoins over a span of one year wasn't really all that hard even with blind spray and pray "tactics", which could realistically result in $1 Billion worth of BTC today with 2-3 year operation.

Also, your point #4 assumes foresight on the guy's part. And based on how some of the darknet markets apparently got busted that would be quite a stretch. Apparently one market had the admin literally use his real fucking real email for both the market registration or newsletter (don't remember) and on public forums that had direct ties to his real identity.

People who go into ventures like drug dealing are not the sharpest spoons in the drawer. If they were, they would be making money without compromising their security (getting murdered and/or jailed) by producing something of value or playing the existing markets.



510. Post 30122740 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 12, 2018, 08:30:10 AM
... countries are to a large extent just pawns on the chessboard of a few mentally deranged clowns that care more about stupid games than advancing humanity. I wonder how many more revolutions and generations it will take before governments either disappear entirely or start acting in the interest of humanity.

One revolution and one generation.
Because Bitcoin exists, and that is enough. ™®
There's also AI and computing power. So it's certainly not impossible. I wouldn't be all that surprised if some of us ended up in the last generation to miss out on longevity breakthroughs given that such research has been gaining more traction and financing in recent years (on top of technological and scientific advances).



511. Post 30124094 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 12, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
... countries are to a large extent just pawns on the chessboard of a few mentally deranged clowns that care more about stupid games than advancing humanity. I wonder how many more revolutions and generations it will take before governments either disappear entirely or start acting in the interest of humanity.

One revolution and one generation.
Because Bitcoin exists, and that is enough. ™®
There's also AI and computing power. So it's certainly not impossible. I wouldn't be all that surprised if some of us ended up in the last generation to miss out on longevity breakthroughs given that such research has been gaining more traction and financing in recent years (on top of technological and scientific advances).
You lost me. There's no AI. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609048/the-seven-deadly-sins-of-ai-predictions/ https://www.edge.org/conversation/jaron_lanier-the-myth-of-ai . It's one of your 'stupid games', as per quantum computing.
meh some of us have lived quite long enough
Have you studied AI/ML? There is no myth of AI, unless you're trying to argue about whether or not it is conscious in a way that humans are.

And at that point you can only guess anyways, since we don't even know what human consciousness is or how it works, and I certainly don't even know if you have an experience of the world that is in any way comparable to mine or even any at all.

ML/AI does fundamentally what humans do, which is gathering and assimilating information, and with higher computing power and other breakthroughs (physical interfaces for example), they will be producing tangible goods that will be beyond the sophistication of anything humanly possible. We already have algorithms that can fine tune other algorithms and there are first rudimentary steps towards algorithms programming programs (one example being an algorithm that "looks" at video footage of a game that recreates the underlying game engine).

These algorithms are fundamentally just applied statistics, which is just applied Mathematics, which is equivalent to human interactions with the world in the most abstract form that we are aware of. None of these are a myth.

P.S. I looked at the guy's bio and he's a computer scientist. As such, I don't really care too much about his opinion since he's not qualified to assess what AI is and what it is not, since as I've mentioned it's an extension of Mathematics, not of computer science. Will read once I got some food though.



512. Post 30125808 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 12, 2018, 09:40:21 AM
Actually those came up on a quick search of 'debunk AI'. The best debunks by the best mathematicos will be in the logs http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=AI and here's a normal https://twitter.com/GrandpaRobot
It all comes down to there being no such thing as a real computer.
So as in my first line, you're coming from a position of philosophy. And when it comes to those realms, you can make any point as long as you expend enough effort into digging up supporting and logical arguments. And while I really love philosophical arguments for any case, however fringe it may or may not be, none of these will have any impact on the utility aspects and practical applications of knowledge and technology.

Hence, even if the argument was objectively true (which it is not because it's circular) doesn't change the fact that ML/AI is going to be an overwhelmingly powerful tool that will not only be comparable to the jump of an ape to a human being, but in fact much greater. The question will be whether or not those tools will be external, or if we're going to enhance ourselves with them in a more direct manner (assuming that we don't go extinct).


What exactly is btcbase?



513. Post 30126853 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 12, 2018, 10:04:31 AM
I guess nobody cares about this: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/11/investing/lagarde-bitcoin-regulation/index.html

Wow was 8000 the new bottom retest?

Where’s Smokey the Bear?

Maybe that IMF statement was too pathetic sounding?
Why would anybody give a rat's ass about regulation when decentralized exchanges are on the horizon? For the very first time in history regulators won't be able to dictate their rule upon citizens.



514. Post 30128071 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 12, 2018, 10:30:31 AM
I guess nobody cares about this: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/11/investing/lagarde-bitcoin-regulation/index.html

Wow was 8000 the new bottom retest?

Where’s Smokey the Bear?

Maybe that IMF statement was too pathetic sounding?
Why would anybody give a rat's ass about regulation when decentralized exchanges are on the horizon? For the very first time in history regulators won't be able to dictate their rule upon citizens.

Yea that sounds very interesting i’ll have to read about what that means... how they work etc.
It means that they can't be taken down, because just like Bitcoin they would be a distributed peer to peer platform. The details are more complex, with atomic swaps and whatnot, but basically you'd be trading with people directly via smart contracts, which would actually be safer than traditional exchanges as well due to the abolishment of counterparty risk (as long as there's no Parity style fuck ups).



515. Post 30128155 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: iarsenaux15 on February 12, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
My income tax refund just came in and also extra money from my unused leave credits last year. I might sound selfish to say this but I am really hoping to see sub 6k before the end of this month so I could by some more. If it goes sub 4k I am already 70% decided to sell my car. lol
Ask yourself this question: How much money would you have to pay for commutes and how much would you save from not needing car insurance and fuel? If it's more or less a wash, go ahead and sell it.



516. Post 30129553 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 12, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
https://twitter.com/Aztek_btc/status/962741112887586816
@Aztek_btc
17h17 hours ago

Im giving away 0.5 BTC to a random someone within the next 60 days for doing the following:
1. Must retweet this tweet
2. Respond to a bank advertisement on any social media with a link of some corruption that that bank did & quote "Dont trust banks #BanksAreCorrupt #BuyBitcoin"
43 replies 161 retweets 191 likes

Funnily enough, there was some article about the BIS bitching and moaning about crypto being a bubble and ponzi scheme just yesterday if I recall correctly. Pretty sure we passed it through this thread as well. I had no clue what the BIS was, so I had to google it. And the first thing that showed up were corruption scandals and allegations.



517. Post 30129638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 12, 2018, 11:03:23 AM
Machine learning + machine gun = fucking scary

It doesn’t matter if the machine isn’t conscious if it can mow you down instantly.
On a robot cheetah. That runs faster than any man alive. Without tiring. You can't trip it, you can't outrun it, can't out-aim it, can't hurt it with anything less than a hammer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_luhn7TLfWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPanW0QWhA
My future vehicle of choice.



518. Post 30132181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 12, 2018, 11:09:41 AM
In more positive robotic news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_brnKz_2tI
I remember seeing this sometime ago and it made me really excited for future possibilities. Imagine a world in which you can e.g. pick up an instrument and master it in a very short time (the interface between the bionic arm and the brain "learns" through machine learning algorithms, which are going to get more and more sophisticated). And mechanical things like that are just the surface. Perhaps we'll be able to experience new colours and sounds by increasing our bandwidth and resolution, or even navigating (digital) spaces of higher and lower spatial dimensions than 3.

Quote from: Wekkel on February 12, 2018, 11:14:26 AM
I had no clue what the BIS was, so I had to google it.

The BIS is the ‘central bank of central banks’. To be honest, the recent media outings of their chairman on the rise of cryptocurrencies were not exactly what the public is waiting for in terms of banking reform (how not to increase faith of the public in banks or: a PR disaster in the making). I hate to say it but the physical appearance of the guy also does not help in the minds of the public.

It all smells like making their long term irrelevance a given by their own (in)action, even without the ascent of cryptocurrencies.
I'm not overly concerned with the mind of the public. We have a very strong support and an increasingly large industry. The public mainstream will eventually follow along, regardless of whether or not they realize it (e.g. by crypto forming some invisible back-end in Paypal like apps).

When the internet and computers were more fringe, even as little as two decades ago, people who used those were often frowned and shunned upon by the rest of the population. And we can all see where those innovations are now. There's also no denying that some developments in the blockchain industry, as well as the blockchain itself, are groundbreaking by a multitude of measures. What the internet did for information, the blockchain does for finance.
I'm trying really hard to find cases in which cryptos could fail to better educate myself, but I can't seem to find any that aren't less probable than winning the lottery. From what I've gathered over the years, far too many factors would have to align simultaneously to bring the crypto space down, and I just don't see it happening.



519. Post 30133546 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 12, 2018, 11:57:31 AM
1:10 link between BTC and ETH seems to have stretched with that little pump.  

On regulation: politicians are starting to figure out that crypto is wildly popular and that there are votes in being pro-crypto. There’s a lot that politicians will do to be voted back into office....
I don't care if they believe in crypto or not, if they actually turn pro-crypto - even if just to gain votes - that would be a positive development for humanity. After all, governments are supposed to represent the interests of the people. If all of politics worked this way I don't think I'd have any further problem with it other than the oversized bureaucracy, excessive tax rates, and sometimes overly strict regulations.

But the latter issues require more education in the general population beyond partisan bullshit. It's easy to be pro-crypto because there's a very realistic chance to make a fortune with it. That's not the case with the other issues, which are far more intricate and grossly misrepresented and oversimplified in politics and media.



520. Post 30141110 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 12, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
I had no clue what the BIS was, so I had to google it.

The BIS is the ‘central bank of central banks’. To be honest, the recent media outings of their chairman on the rise of cryptocurrencies were not exactly what the public is waiting for in terms of banking reform (how not to increase faith of the public in banks or: a PR disaster in the making). I hate to say it but the physical appearance of the guy also does not help in the minds of the public.

It all smells like making their long term irrelevance a given by their own (in)action, even without the ascent of cryptocurrencies.

IMF owns BIS - steal from the poor give to the rich

Their currency is
Standard Drawing Rights - the king of money



How your wealth is finally processed

https://www.rt.com/business/418523-cryptocurrency-regulation-inevitable-imf/
Earlier, the head of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) Agustin Carstens said bitcoin is “a combination of a bubble, a Ponzi scheme and an environmental disaster,” calling central banks to crack down on cryptocurrencies.

                                                                                    Agustin_Carstens




I find pretty ironic everyone insist in calling that guy "The head" when they should call it "The body".


I thought Augustus Gloop got sucked up the chocolate pipe at Willie Wonka’s Chocolate factory....
His shape is marvelous. And people still believe that it's not possible for humans to achieve anything they could ever conceive of, even though we have a guy here that is literally defying the laws of physics by not being a perfect sphere.



521. Post 30148959 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Dabs on February 12, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
AI = Artificial Intelligence. Means it is fake intelligence.

Means, the real intelligence can still out smart it. Thus humans will control machines for a long time. Up until they are self-replicating, self-repairing, self-sustaining, and self-aware.
We already have rudimentary self-replicating algorithms. They're also self-repairing/amending, which is why algorithmic trading with Machine Learning works so well compared to traditional and commercially available trading bots. Considering that these algorithms automatically adjust as new data rolls in, you could already say that they are self-aware (of their relevant metrics) as well. The reasons why these algorithms aren't shitting on human intelligence is mostly due to a lack of sufficiently intertwined networks, but we're slowly getting there.
As far as "outsmarting" these algorithms is concerned. That's only partially true. We can screw with AI algorithms by analyzing precisely how they assimilate data (which doesn't work with all algorithms because it's sometimes impossible to tell what is going on and they're pretty much a blackbox). But they are usually significantly better than humans by a large margin at solving specific tasks. As mentioned earlier, the only reason they aren't capable of solving general tasks is because they're currently specialized algorithms for specific tasks. Once we can efficiently connect many such specialized "modules" together, humans will seem like complete retards compared to AI. Which raises the questions of whether or not we want to merge or inevitably have AI as our near-literal God.


Quote from: Nosk on February 12, 2018, 03:19:41 PM
AI = Artificial Intelligence. Means it is fake intelligence.

Means, the real intelligence can still out smart it. Thus humans will *continue to* control machines for a long time. Up until they are self-replicating, self-repairing, self-sustaining, and self-aware.

FTFY.

Machine do what they are asked to do.
Some machine learning algorithms (such as artificial neural networks) are based of the biomimetism principle, but the result is not even close to the reality.
Biomimetism implies two things :
-Our comprehension of the living is still very limited. Hence, genetic algorithm, artificial neural network, etc... are by essence incomplete. You can see this that way : an artificial neural network is 10% (or 20%, it is very subjective here) nature inspired, and 80% pure engineering.
-Even with a full comprehension of nature processes, the algorithms outcoming of our attempt to mimic them wouldn't copy 100% of the reality, cause you know, organic cells (or organic processes in general) > transistors. Maybe this will change with major disruption in technology, for example a fully functionnal quantic computer.

For now, biomimetism only gives us some general paradigm that emerged naturally. And it works because Nature is just damn well made. But as long as we don't understand the truly meaning and processes of a thought, we'll never have a sentient machine. Scifi stories where some creator kinda randomly create true (artificial) intelligence is pure fantasy.
I would argue the contrary in continuation of my above ramblings. We don't need to mimic the human brain perfectly. Humans simply don't compare to specific task algorithms. All it takes to trump us is connecting modules together whilst allowing for the creation of new ones by the algorithm itself. And as I've mentioned, the first algorithms to create code already exist. So either of higher computational power or more efficient algorithms should be enough and reality both of these will get satisfied over time.

We didn't copy birds or fishes either to fly in the skies or swim through the oceans either, and we're significantly better at both of these tasks. There is no compelling reason to create a carbon copy of the human brain for this specific purpose.



522. Post 30150412 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Dabs on February 12, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
Yeah yeah. I get you.

There are running bots. They are good at running. Like that cheeta bot.
There are aim bots. They can aim. See stuff.
So there's robocop right there, but how does it know good from evil, right from wrong. It's going to make a mistake.
How do humans know right from wrong? Good from evil? Humans make mistakes all the time, and they make more of them than an AI will for a very simple reason. An AI can be trained on countless of human generations worth of data within a few hours to a few months before ever being put to use. A single human however, can't just go and live through all of human history before setting foot into the real world.

Quote from: Dabs on February 12, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
There are self driving cars. We will see how they improve. I still like to drive my own, for now.
I feel like whoever opens up a few car parks/racing tracks just before self-driving cards tip over human driven cars will make a fortune.

Quote from: Dabs on February 12, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
There are trading bots. They buy low and sell high. The whole day. Keep the spreads small, and it will be profit. Still doesn't beat a half decent hedge fund manager, you know, the real ones that make good decisions. (And yes, humans make bad decisions too.)
Most hedge funds get floored by the average equity market growth rates. And those that are the most competitive are highly data driven and rely on machine learning. The amount of data that goes into the trading decisions by a decent bot is something that no human could ever dream of processing himself. Especially not in realtime. If ML isn't the norm in hedge funds yet, it's only because of a lack of ML talent due to the relatively young age of the industry and not because humans can outperform the best algorithms.


Quote from: Dabs on February 12, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
Now, that's real. But nothing beats a group of humans, creating a coin from scratch, and singing it to the high heavens raking in billions of dollars and disappearing in a puff of smoke when they get a cease and desist letter. However, we call those guys scammers.
I'm actually surprised that this keeps working. Beeeeeeeeeeeconneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeect was the most obvious scam that I've ever seen in my life. And people still ended up complaining about getting burnt. Unbelievable.



523. Post 30196591 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 13, 2018, 10:44:43 AM
TA confirms 1 Doge = 1 Dog


What if someone hacks the markets and changes 1 Doge to 0 Doge?



524. Post 30201271 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Back to the BF robot videos from yesterday, here's a new one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio



525. Post 30201493 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 13, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Microsoft verifies Bitcoin more innovative than Bcash: http://bitcoinist.com/farewell-bitcoin-cash-microsoft-chain-scaling-degrades-decentralization/
Anyone want to guess the next desperate moves by WuVer? Attempts to call out Microsoft?



Quote from: supertee on February 13, 2018, 10:55:38 AM
TA confirms 1 Doge = 1 Dog


What if someone hacks the markets and changes 1 Doge to 0 Doge?

you didn't get it. the chart looks like a dog.
I was making a reference.



526. Post 30201884 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 13, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
Back to the BF robot videos from yesterday, here's a new one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio

To defeat Terminator, apply Astroglade to door handle
ftfy



527. Post 30204791 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 13, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
First I have heard of Teechain. Sounds like another LN for BTC? Anyone know anything about it?

https://www.teechain.network

Looks like the lightning network applied to any blockchain. Figured it would be coming. Does this undermine Bitcoin’s competitive edge with lightning network innovation? Will ethereum and other altcoins be using teechain or lightning network equivalents?
With Ethereum being politicized I don't see Bitcoin losing its edge.



528. Post 30209718 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: Torque on February 13, 2018, 01:33:36 PM
You pesky kids though. It is all very well being 'enthusiastic' and talking of 'whole cryptocurrency' as if that were a thing. If you could just stop all your meddling and blathering on until you are actually 50, you would be doing bitcoin a great service. There are many more pressing concerns than you seem to be aware of.

Or they could also, I dunno, do some actual fkn research instead of blindly throwing money at every crypto just because it exists, or has "coin", "currency", "cash" in the name, or because it is a "token" that "ICO'ed", or because it will supposedly solve some future problem that doesn't exist and never will.

As if the whole crypto space is a thing and is worthy of investment across the board. That's like saying every stock in the whole stock market (penny shit stocks and all) is worthy of investment "because equity space".

Remember the "dot com space"? Yeah we saw how that turned out.
The same way the crypto space will turn out. A few rich, very few very rich people and a lot of people burning themselves by throwing money around like dirty socks.



529. Post 30217585 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.43h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 13, 2018, 03:40:36 PM
In my experience. twentysomethings are still too distracted to be seriously into crypto. Moreover, they seldom have the financial resources to build any position. The most part of the not so many crypto-aware people I know are thirtysomethings and a couple folks in their forties. All males, over half of them techno-savvy.
I'm a twenty-something, but I knew before I left school that I wouldn't want to slave away in a dayjob and have hence been researching stocks and other means of building wealth for around a decade now as a result. Of the people around my age hardly anybody seems to care though, I only know of two other people who are into crypto and one of them has been into stocks for a while now too. The other one is just gambling with his dad's money.



530. Post 30230096 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 13, 2018, 06:33:29 PM
R0ach's Utopia:


Surely those gold ingots are silver ingots with gold coating? Tongue



531. Post 30231244 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 13, 2018, 07:32:45 PM
R0ach's Utopia:


Surely those gold ingots are silver ingots with gold coating? Tongue


 Hard to fool people if you're using silver.  It has merely half the density of gold so it would be much better to use tungsten which has  a similar density to gold at a much lower price than silver to maximize the profit on the scam.
  

I was refering to how roach seems to have a fetish for silver. I'm not sure if it would be possible to really scam people with fake gold today, people who are in the business of buying gold surely know how to check for authenticity... one would hope.

On another note, cereals doused in eggnog work surprisingly well.



532. Post 30231493 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 13, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
In terms of security, Dbrain prevents dataset leaks to third parties through the use of the Protocol for Indirect Controlled Access to Repository Data (PICARD). Dbrain says PICARD also gives data scientists the ability to “train AI models using the datasets without downloading them, and sell AI solutions to business clients later”.

Is the name a reference to the Mathematician?



533. Post 30234893 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 13, 2018, 08:34:07 PM
If you use shapeshift.io, you might want to look into alternatives. I wonder how much this cost Bitcoin Judas?



Not going to use it again, thanks for posting this here. Hopefully Changelly isn't going to follow suit.



534. Post 30275585 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
Hey guys, JPMorgan thinks that Bitcoin is a "fraud", but for some reason also believes that Bitcoin ETFs are the "Holy Grail"...

http://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-explains-why-a-bitcoin-etf-is-a-holy-grail-2018-2

 Roll Eyes
ETFs easier to trade then cryptos. Lmao.



535. Post 30282874 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 14, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43056744
Crypto-currency craze 'hinders search for alien life'

-at this rate bitcoiners will be the first to find aliens, out there beyond the exomoons.

Well let's see...

Creating a Financial paradigm shift in decentralized money to break us free from the slavery of Central Bank corruption

-vs.-

Signaling evil space Aliens to come to Earth to destroy and enslave us....

... decisions, decisions....
I don't see the argument for an alien race that is beyond our current capacities to give enough of a fuck to come and destroy us. But even so, I'll gladly take delays in finding any positive or neutral aliens in exchange for upgrading our financial tools. The latter will inevitably help accelerate progress, while the former would be a gamble. The choice should be obvious.



536. Post 30283761 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: 600watt on February 14, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43056744
Crypto-currency craze 'hinders search for alien life'

-at this rate bitcoiners will be the first to find aliens, out there beyond the exomoons.

Well let's see...

Creating a Financial paradigm shift in decentralized money to break us free from the slavery of Central Bank corruption

-vs.-

Signaling evil space Aliens to come to Earth to destroy and enslave us....

... decisions, decisions....

I think SETI is just searching for signals and does not send them. But you have a valid point there Smiley

seti is search only.  
and we are sending out massive radiowave signals constantly and in all directions for more than a century now.
Are there any emitters that really cover "all directions"? There's infinitely many of them (directions), so pointed "beams" would cover virtually nothing at sufficiently large distances.



537. Post 30283986 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 14, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
The issue in my opinion is all crypto ETFs should be crypto (as opposed to fiat) backed.

Valueless tokens backed by other valueless tokens?  Yea, that sounds like a great monetary system.  You people are high on your own koolaid now.  You're typing illogical nonsense to try and deceive 90yr old retirees into buying your valueless tokens and started believing your own lies.  It's going to be hilarious when silver and gold obliterate these things and all the imaginary, valueless tokens implode to nothing.

What is silver backed by?

What kind of idiotic question is that?  "Backing" means you're holding a fucking IOU.  If you have a physical commodity money, you have removed middlemen and counterparty risk and are not dealing in worthless IOUs.  Bitcoin on the other hand is just a centralized, permissioned ledger with built-in middlemen and doesn't remove counterparty risk.  It's like willingly admitting yourself into a prison where you have to bribe the transaction validators in order to spend your own funds.  Since it's non-fungible, the govt can then just declare you an enemy of the state and bar you from transacting at all.  Good job willingly entering yourself into a digital prison cucks!

There's still counterparty risk involved if you consider the possibility of either the cost of synthesizing silver dropping significantly or silver becoming worthless due to the emergence of a better material in the future. And if you believe that this risk is nil you're deluding yourself.



538. Post 30285159 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 14, 2018, 03:55:13 PM
Good job willingly entering yourself into a digital prison cucks!

Where do you think that you can go with your silver coins?

https://reason.com/archives/2015/11/27/cops-now-take-more-than-robbers

You should have spent more than 2 seconds thinking that post through.  In terms of civil asset forfeiture, bitcoin is non-fungible and everyone's coins will be tainted in some manner, so the govt can arbitrarily label anyone they want as a criminal and then steal your funds.  There is no reason whatsoever for a non-fungible currency to exist besides the creation of a digital prison.

There's still counterparty risk involved if you consider the possibility of either the cost of synthesizing silver dropping significantly or silver becoming worthless due to the emergence of a better material in the future. And if you believe that this risk is nil you're deluding yourself.

Bullshit.  Humans are not inventing magical infinite energy machines to transmute pure energy conjured from thin air into matter.  It requires two neutron stars colliding to make silver and gold.  Even if you make believe humans are going to turn into the living gods you claim, it's definitely not happening in your lifetime or several ones after.  That was by far the worst disinfo attempt I've ever seen to try and shill for digital prison cryptocurrencies and against sound money like silver and gold.
Just because gold was created in neutron star collisions doesn't mean that it's the only way for it to be created. By your argument it would be impossible to bake a cake because all the materials came from the big bang, which we are no where close to replicating. And I'm pretty sure that what I've had earlier was some great fucking cake.



539. Post 30289627 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 14, 2018, 04:25:38 PM
Cucks celebrating being imprisoned in a cashless society slave system with built-in KYC/AML:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ktorpey/2018/02/12/microsoft-to-embrace-decentralized-identity-systems-built-on-bitcoin-and-other-blockchains/
Good thing anonymous blockchains will keep developing alongside.



540. Post 30293572 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 14, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
After BTC dumped so hard, it was just a matter oft time until BCH started trying to overtake again. It is rather probable that this pump is just starting and could geht BCH close to 1:1 for BTC with current weakness and high amount oft free capital!
ignored

Haha! wimp.

XD
If you see jbreher on the train he or she is not invited . die bch die

Aww... there is always room for picanic bears...  no reason to hate...

But yeah.  DIE BCASH DIE.
I'm really curious to see how BTrash plays out now that even Microsoft denounced it.



541. Post 30297755 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on February 14, 2018, 07:30:46 PM
After BTC dumped so hard, it was just a matter oft time until BCH started trying to overtake again. It is rather probable that this pump is just starting and could geht BCH close to 1:1 for BTC with current weakness and high amount oft free capital!
ignored

Haha! wimp.

XD
If you see jbreher on the train he or she is not invited . die bch die

Aww... there is always room for picanic bears...  no reason to hate...

But yeah.  DIE BCASH DIE.
oh sorry jbreher it's nothing personal I just don't like bch.. go litecoin go
I wouldn't even care about BCash if it was just any other alt or fork. But the way they are willing to put trust in Bitcoin as a whole at stake for profiteering and/or egomaniac reasons is despicable.



542. Post 30298162 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Paashaas on February 14, 2018, 07:39:36 PM
There is one lightning node no one wants to connect with, everybody is skipping ''Roger Ver'' somehow Roll Eyes


That's just gold. Is that the real Roger Ver or just a troll? In either case, 11/10.



543. Post 30301643 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: moneyForjam on February 14, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
why cant I give away my merit?
I believe you only get half a sMerit for each Merit that you get. Since you only have one merit you'd need one more to be able to send any.



544. Post 30310334 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 15, 2018, 12:29:44 AM
I guess they're prepared to assume those masternodes are all totally above board. Not sure that’s a totally safe assumption, but who am I to say--I gave up crime in the 8th grade.
That's why you're still not popped corn!



545. Post 30337407 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: fred1111 on February 15, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
I bought my first coins back in 2013, and I am a permabull / maximalist. HOWEVER, it looks like we're entering a multi-year bear market.
https://youtu.be/vX1BjDHhuVk?t=54m58s
No it isn't, that guy talks about random bullshit buzzwords, not fundamentals or technicals.

> Everybody who's got money is in
> Total market cap of $463 Billion

Just lol.



546. Post 30337617 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 15, 2018, 11:54:16 AM
I bought my first coins back in 2013, and I am a permabull / maximalist. HOWEVER, it looks like we're entering a multi-year bear market.
https://youtu.be/vX1BjDHhuVk?t=54m58s


You attached a week old youtube clip interview of Richard Heart rage quitting BTC.. and pumping ETH and pumping his new alt coin...

Just because he proclaims a bunch of whiny bullshit, just like Mike Hearn whined about a few things in early 2016, and Mike Hearns rage quit did not cause BTC to fall or fail, merely because he said it....

Similarly here with Richard Heart... he seems to be very emotional and there are a lot fo folks who are confused by his sudden change and sentiment that seems to be based on feelings (and perhaps bias) rather than actual fundamentals or logic.
He probably "lost" a couple million and is now suicidal due to lack of foresight and understanding. "Lightning is online" (no it's fucking not). He either doesn't know what he's talking about or it's like you're suggesting and he's trying to manipulate markets. Without any success.



547. Post 30338796 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 15, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
I bought my first coins back in 2013, and I am a permabull / maximalist. HOWEVER, it looks like we're entering a multi-year bear market.
https://youtu.be/vX1BjDHhuVk?t=54m58s


You attached a week old youtube clip interview of Richard Heart rage quitting BTC.. and pumping ETH and pumping his new alt coin...

Just because he proclaims a bunch of whiny bullshit, just like Mike Hearn whined about a few things in early 2016, and Mike Hearns rage quit did not cause BTC to fall or fail, merely because he said it....

Similarly here with Richard Heart... he seems to be very emotional and there are a lot fo folks who are confused by his sudden change and sentiment that seems to be based on feelings (and perhaps bias) rather than actual fundamentals or logic.
He probably "lost" a couple million and is now suicidal due to lack of foresight and understanding. "Lightning is online" (no it's fucking not). He either doesn't know what he's talking about or it's like you're suggesting and he's trying to manipulate markets. Without any success.

I understand that he has been a trusted and even a very strong voice in the past with a lot of no bullshit frank talk in support of bitcoin, but that interview came off as overly emotional and he lost something before or during the interview, and he was having difficultles holding it together or coming off as reasonable.
I've never heard of the guy, but if he used to be "no bullshit frank" then he certainly wasn't in this interview (at least not in the ~10 minutes that I've bothered watching). Not a single rational point that goes beyond the usual buzzword parroting that can often be found in other places on this forum or around "elite Economists". Has he been around for a while or did he just pop out of nowhere recently? If it's the former I don't really understand how you could make a polar flip even though the fundamentals haven't changed, certainly not for the worse.



548. Post 30348600 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on February 15, 2018, 02:40:44 PM
I bought my first coins back in 2013, and I am a permabull / maximalist. HOWEVER, it looks like we're entering a multi-year bear market.
https://youtu.be/vX1BjDHhuVk?t=54m58s
No it isn't, that guy talks about random bullshit buzzwords, not fundamentals or technicals.

> Everybody who's got money is in
> Total market cap of $463 Billion

Just lol.


Don’t even get me started on this video. He annoyed me so much the little pussy. He basically went long at 19k and got REKT
That would explain his complete and utter lack of understanding and arguments. I wonder if we'll still have people buying tops and selling bottoms in a thousand years, there's nothing particularly new happening in Bitcoin from a trading perspective, yet people keep making the same mistakes over and over.

Quote from: vroom on February 15, 2018, 02:45:28 PM
For some reason I think I am even happier at current price than I was when we crossed it last time. Anyone else with the same feeling?

I am struggling trying to understand why is that so. Maybe it is just me, though.

yes, I have the same feeling. Back in december it was pretty obvious that we will get a big correction. it now feels like a system reset, everything is back to zero.  the "system" runs much faster and smoother now. But zero is not zero, it's over $9000! <insert vegeta meme>.
Going up 24/7 is bound to make people anxious, after all everybody expects things to come back down at some point. Right now both the pumping and dumping phases seem to have ended, so the "back to zero" metaphor is quite fitting. Emotions reset and the outlook seems back to bullish or at least close to.



549. Post 30349200 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: seljo on February 15, 2018, 02:58:07 PM
So it starts... Grin
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/european-bankers-scoff-at-bitcoin-for-its-risk-huge-energy-inefficiency/
Old debunked arguments presented by the banksters instead of trying for a compromise. I really hope that the universe has a tendency to take care of this type of behaviour. But at the very least people do, which is where Bitcoin came from in the first place.



550. Post 30352894 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on February 15, 2018, 03:57:35 PM
What's up with wordy man being a dick lately?

I see only quotes, but he's become more and more of a dick as time goes on, since no one can reach through the internet and bitch slap him.  Ignorance and Arrogance go hand in hand...

I thought by "wordy man" he was talking about JJG.

I must admit I though that too.

Back on topic: too calm down here.


So did I, which struck me with surprise.



551. Post 30353772 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 15, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
For some reason I think I am even happier at current price than I was when we crossed it last time. Anyone else with the same feeling?

I am struggling trying to understand why is that so. Maybe it is just me, though.

yes, I have the same feeling. Back in december it was pretty obvious that we will get a big correction. it now feels like a system reset, everything is back to zero.  the "system" runs much faster and smoother now. But zero is not zero, it's over $9000! <insert vegeta meme>.

$10,000 is no longer a 10x increase in <1 year, which was a bit of a stretch. Now $10K is a 50% retreat from the ATH, so it feels like we're just getting warmed up.
That's what it feels like to me too. Second attempt go back above $10k, both of which were back to back today. Smells like we're back to 11~12k by next week, and then who knows.



552. Post 30358377 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Is it weeeee o' clock yet?



553. Post 30358666 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: hisslyness on February 15, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
At what price will FOMO kick in?
Somewhere close to the last ATH I'd assume, by MSM starting another hype cycle once steam has run for natural climbs.



554. Post 30361238 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 15, 2018, 06:10:19 PM
Sorry folks, I'm sure it won't happen again. Embarrassed
With all due respect, Mayor, can you please stop fucking with us?
This Rosewater business - kidnapped, no, he's just hiding, no, it's my (millionaire BMB's) alter ego... it's exhausting.
And I don't even want to start thinking about reviving that squalid goofy business with our pants...
 Angry

EDIT - This is my post #666. Mean anything?
Yes, that you're part of the Illuminati. Please don't NWO me.



555. Post 30361311 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: koryu on February 15, 2018, 06:21:48 PM
choo choo


That looks like a lot of fun. Best train.



556. Post 30363061 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: suchmoon on February 15, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
At what price will FOMO kick in?

I thought that was around $8900. Don't tell me I wasn't supposed to panic and buy back then.
I thought he was referring to the mainstream, not people who have already been in Bitcoin and know more or less how to swing.



557. Post 30363328 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 15, 2018, 06:53:46 PM
Sorry folks, I'm sure it won't happen again. Embarrassed
With all due respect, Mayor, can you please stop fucking with us?
This Rosewater business - kidnapped, no, he's just hiding, no, it's my (millionaire BMB's) alter ego... it's exhausting.
And I don't even want to start thinking about reviving that squalid goofy business with our pants...
 Angry

EDIT - This is my post #666. Mean anything?

You're right, I know. I've come to realize I have nothing substantial to contribute.
I'm terribly sorry. Undecided
I thought this thread was mostly tea time with some charts in between.

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 15, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Methinks $10k may take a while to be left behind for good.

Sideways for a few days?
When I read "a while" I was thinking"nah no way". A few days sounds about right though unless mass FOMO kicks early this year.



558. Post 30363649 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 15, 2018, 07:00:24 PM
Sorry folks, I'm sure it won't happen again. Embarrassed
With all due respect, Mayor, can you please stop fucking with us?
This Rosewater business - kidnapped, no, he's just hiding, no, it's my (millionaire BMB's) alter ego... it's exhausting.
And I don't even want to start thinking about reviving that squalid goofy business with our pants...
 Angry

EDIT - This is my post #666. Mean anything?

You're right, I know. I've come to realize I have nothing substantial to contribute.
I'm terribly sorry. Undecided
I thought this thread was mostly tea time with some charts in between.


It's all fun and games until the price draws back and I have a nervous breakdown.
This game would suck without the draw backs.



559. Post 30365726 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 15, 2018, 07:35:07 PM
Shorts growing and longs decreasing (blue line is net of short / long on BFX).  The record bullishness of the last 48 hours has rapidly faded. Still bullish but cautious.


Psychological round number nonsense. Sad



560. Post 30368158 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 15, 2018, 08:20:56 PM

No that can’t be him. His head ain’t shaved and there’s
no swastika tattoo  carved on his forehead.
I don't think it's being fair to Charles Manson to draw that comparison.


Quote from: starmman on February 15, 2018, 08:23:35 PM
BTC dominance is rising.

Good!

Would be nice to see it back to >40% over the next few days - Some alts are stacked way too high
It's not really a relevant metric, especially if you consider the overwhelming quantity of altcoins in circulation.



561. Post 30373275 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Back to sub 10k. Time to buy silver? Roll Eyes



562. Post 30374574 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 15, 2018, 10:33:24 PM
At what price will FOMO kick in?
Somewhere close to the last ATH I'd assume, by MSM starting another hype cycle once steam has run for natural climbs.


I agree that FOMO is not likely to kick in anytime before we start to get close to current ATH.... so perhaps in the $18-19k price territory, and maybe not even until it becomes fairly clearly going to break above the ATH... which is a certain 5-10% striking distance of such...   Until then, we are going to need to deal with a decent amount of ongoing resistance all the way up towards returning to ATH territories...


Hey BTCMILLIONAIRE... I don't want to pry too much into your particulars, but did you come up with your user name based on factual circumstances or an aspiration?  I see that your registration to the forum was during a period in late 2014 in which faith was becoming increasingly lost in BTC, so there was quite a bit less balling going on at that point.. even though loss of faith shook out more folks in the next 12 months or so into the lows of 2015.

I did just look at your first posts, and it appears that you were aspiring to obtain 1 BTC... so millionnaire could have been measured in terms of Satoshis too... Do you want to overview your BTC journey, without necessarily providing too many personal details?  I have shared mine about a zillion times, but I still like to hear about other folks, especially when they seem to share bullish yet seemingly realistic BTC views.
I've been on and off this forum for quite a bit longer than that, but never really stepped into it because it was too fringe for my situation.

A lot has changed though, and I've ended up going balls deep with my student loan and scholarship when it was bottoming out, since I've figured I'd have plenty of time to cover my losses anyways and knew that I could easily score a 6 figure job after graduation thanks to busting my ass at university.

Let's just say that the aspiration has changed to a B rather than an M as denominated in USD. I'm not quite sure if a million Bitcoins will be doable since I expect those to be worth hundreds of billions to just over a trillion at some point, and I'm not sure how much I'll care about collecting money just for the sake of collecting it. I'd need to thoroughly enjoy running ventures of my own as well as investing in the type of research that nobody wants to throw money at because of a lack of predictable profits (the kind of shit that Musk does for example, I fucking love insane people - the good kind of insane).

But for now I'm trying to make sure that I won't have to take up a dayjob at any point in my life while simultaneously not having to worry about my spending habbits (which are still extremely frugal beyond the occasional splurge on a good Scotch or food).

It might be worth noting that I've been checking out equity markets since my high school days because I just couldn't see myself working into my 60s. I've also used to do statistical analysis in MMORPG markets before I even knew what statistics were (using pen&paper and excel) and tried to estimate other aspects of the game quantitatively to increase my own performace. So I guess I've been pretty much predisposed to end up in Bitcoin at one point or another anyways.



563. Post 30375061 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 15, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
EIP 867 is doing its best to destroy ETH right now (protocol for making state changes such as recovery of the Parity funds).
I have this eerie feeling that such measures will not lead to the fall of the likes of XRP and ETH. People don't seem to care, or be too ignorant to understand the implications.



564. Post 30377554 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 16, 2018, 12:15:03 AM
I realized something. Bitcoin is free from state control, right? The price is determined organically according to supply and demand, yes? And what happens after a sudden and rapid rise in price? After the boom comes the bust. Down to less than half of the previous high, and only now slowly climbing back up.

Many organic cycles in nature mirrors this, most obviously animal populations. And when you look at the human population over the past handful of hundreds of years, what do you see? Exponential rise, a rocket taking off. But the food supply is limited, and we will eventually hit a hard cap. We will top off at 9-11 billion people. And once we reach the top, what will happen? We will have some percentage drop.

I thought until recently that millions of people, perhaps hundreds of million, were going to die. But no. Billions of people are going to die. And there is a possibility that it will happen within our lifetimes.

I'm going to fucking bed. Hopefully I will have some less horrible nightmares than this.
We technically have enough food for the entire planet, it just doesn't get to certain places. And in my opinion it shouldn't (for free). If we see hundreds of millions of people dying in our lifetime it will most likely be in places like Africa, since they're still playing tribal games in their most primitive form instead of focusing on progress. Don't really see billions vanishing though.



565. Post 30413243 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 16, 2018, 01:57:22 PM
https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/964287117466640389
@TheEllenShow
If you want to know what bitcoin is, I learned about it. A bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2BMxeHsv8
You know bitcoin is gaining mainstream traction when little boys on the idiot box feign ignorance in order to btfd.
"Either you're going to be a millionaire or you're going to be totally broke."

Considering that most people on this planet are totally broke it should be obvious which course to take.

I'd starve myself just to make sure I could get some if I had to. Supposedly lower calorie intake is correlated with higher life expectancy anyways, so that would be a win/win.



566. Post 30415042 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 16, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/964287117466640389
@TheEllenShow
If you want to know what bitcoin is, I learned about it. A bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2BMxeHsv8
You know bitcoin is gaining mainstream traction when little boys on the idiot box feign ignorance in order to btfd.
"Either you're going to be a millionaire or you're going to be totally broke."

Considering that most people on this planet are totally broke it should be obvious which course to take.

I'd starve myself just to make sure I could get some if I had to. Supposedly lower calorie intake is correlated with higher life expectancy anyways, so that would be a win/win.

What's really sad, is that the majority of sheeple living in first world countries and still carelessly spending their hard earned money, still don't even know why it's vital just to hedge against inflation. They believe that not building wealth is why they are broke, but never consider that not hedging against inflation after a decade or three is also why they are broke.

If people bought Bitcoin as merely an inflation hedge (i.e., only expecting an avg ~6% gain per year) instead of trying to "become a millionaire" they'd be much better off than not buying any at all.
It's also quite sad that financial literacy isn't being taught in schools, not even electively. And it could be easily taught in playful ways that anybody could pick up on too.


Sometimes I seriously wonder if people have some unconscious desire to be poor and mediocre. I just cannot fathom how somebody could wish to be more than they are without trying to work towards that goal with even the tiniest increments.



567. Post 30416160 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 16, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Agreed. But along with basic financial literacy coursework, the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad" should be required reading.
Just looked it up, saw a couple videos of the author on YT some time back. They were pretty much all spot on.

Quote from: Torque on February 16, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
People think their careers will save them, that they will never end and their wages will always be increasing to take care of their current and future debts.

Until their career doesn't.
That's also something that I don't understand though. I don't expect anything to ever go right without my personal intervention so I'm always on the lookout for something that I could do better. Heck, even with my degree and skills I wouldn't trust a job in ML/Stats to last for the next 10-20 years without picking up a lot of extra skills along the way. Things move way too fast, especially now. And then there's always the little twats that play those bullshit games that could stunt your progress in a company and end up costing you years of your life in terms of advancing forward.
It just seems to be the most sensible to make sure that the worst case scenario in one's life (force majeure type events excluded) would be the minimum that one would consider passable as a living standard. Yet people keep demanding to be spoon-fed that standard without actively pursuing it.
Almost makes me wish that natural selection weeded them out, but then we'd have no worker ants, so maybe they're just necessary the way they are? Life's weird.



568. Post 30419038 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 16, 2018, 02:51:05 PM
Just looked it up, saw a couple videos of the author on YT some time back. They were pretty much all spot on.
Free pdf version. Happy reading!
http://www.lequydonhanoi.edu.vn/upload_images/S%C3%A1ch%20ngo%E1%BA%A1i%20ng%E1%BB%AF/Rich%20Dad%20Poor%20Dad.pdf


https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/964287117466640389
@TheEllenShow
If you want to know what bitcoin is, I learned about it. A bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2BMxeHsv8
You know bitcoin is gaining mainstream traction when little boys on the idiot box feign ignorance in order to btfd.

Btw, that video reminds me so much of this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlJku_CSyNg

Did we just have our normie entertainer "aha" moment?  Grin
Thanks for the link! (I'd send you a merit but you're already legendary and I only have one sMerit left.)

Also, one of the comments on the video:


quelorepario
2 years ago
This is how I feel when I explain about bitcoin


Still true today, haha.



569. Post 30421718 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 16, 2018, 03:56:07 PM

Btw, that video reminds me so much of this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlJku_CSyNg

Did we just have our normie entertainer "aha" moment?  Grin

Lol yes
now waiting for the real brains of the entertainment industry to get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHcOs7mhfU
David Bowie predicted in 1999 the impact of the Internet in BBC interview
I had no idea that Bowie was so articulate and intelligent. What a contrast to today's "stars".



570. Post 30424233 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 16, 2018, 04:41:13 PM
Agreed. But along with basic financial literacy coursework, the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad" should be required reading.
Just looked it up, saw a couple videos of the author on YT some time back. They were pretty much all spot on.

People think their careers will save them, that they will never end and their wages will always be increasing to take care of their current and future debts.

Until their career doesn't.
That's also something that I don't understand though. I don't expect anything to ever go right without my personal intervention so I'm always on the lookout for something that I could do better. Heck, even with my degree and skills I wouldn't trust a job in ML/Stats to last for the next 10-20 years without picking up a lot of extra skills along the way. Things move way too fast, especially now. And then there's always the little twats that play those bullshit games that could stunt your progress in a company and end up costing you years of your life in terms of advancing forward.
It just seems to be the most sensible to make sure that the worst case scenario in one's life (force majeure type events excluded) would be the minimum that one would consider passable as a living standard. Yet people keep demanding to be spoon-fed that standard without actively pursuing it.
Almost makes me wish that natural selection weeded them out, but then we'd have no worker ants, so maybe they're just necessary the way they are? Life's weird.
My take is that we are still living according to tribal instincts. Goes something like this:

The camp is a safe place, so far as that means anything in nature. It's where the women, children, weak men, cripples, sick and elderly stay.

Outside the camp is constant life threatening danger, but it is necessary to go out there in order to kill some food. That's what the strong and brave men do, the risk takers, the ones who provide for everyone.

Most people are campers. Weak, cowardly. r-types.

The few of us who make it big in some form or other, be it in business or investment or whatever, are K-types. We are willing to bet it all in order to gain everything.

Today, rather than have a sharp separation between the weak and the strong with associated duties and rewards, we all live in one big pile where the weak think they are entitled to the same as the strong, regardless of personal merit. That's why we always trend more towards socialism and communism, because everyone gets to vote. And here we are.
Pretty much. I just hate the idea of completely open democracy. If you're not capable of arguing pro and contra for both sides of any argument (even those that you disagree with) you shouldn't be allowed to vote due to a lack of objective and unemotional analysis, period. Not that voting matters, but yeah.

The camp analogy is quite nice, haven't thought of it from that exact perspective yet. Tribalism and "jungle-like" behaviour is quite apparent though, people seem to impulsively move away from anything that is unknown to them, just like someone who lives in the woods would instinctively seek cover when they'd hear a brush rustle.


Quote from: JimboToronto on February 16, 2018, 04:37:56 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see the battle for 5 digits continues... currently $10145USD/$12725CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

A day or 2 more consolidation before continuing up, perhaps?


Thanx. Saved it to read on the plane.

Just scanned through the intro and it seems right on. For me it seems to be just reinforcing what I already figured out for myself or learned at the school of hard knocks long ago.

Dropped out of art college in 1967, quit all 3 jobs I had in my life, 2 in less than 6 months, been job-free since 1977 (just say no) and have been living a fun life ever since.

Sure, I made some mistakes along the way. At one point I had 4 mortgages on 3 houses. Never again. The only way I'll ever have a mortgage again is if I'm the mortgage holder collecting compound interest.

I avoided owning a credit card for years but eventually broke down and got one (originally just to get a free t-shirt at the SkyDome!) which I only use for the internet, renting hotel rooms, cars, etc., and international travel. I pay it down immediately after using it. I'm proud to say Ive never received a statement with a payment due and never paid any interest except for a day or 2 on a cash advance.

I pay cash for everything possible and haven't had a working bank account for years.

I was doing just fine before Bitcoin earned me an obscene amount. Life is good.
Can you actually pay utilities and the like in cash in Canada? Or how did you manage to get by without a bank account?



571. Post 30428613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 16, 2018, 05:23:45 PM
Can you actually pay utilities and the like in cash in Canada? Or how did you manage to get by without a bank account?

It used to be easier to pay with cash. If you went to the Toronto Hydro offices on Carlton Street you could pay a cashier in a wicket on the main floor. Not any more. The Rogers kiosk in the Eaton Center still accepts cash payments though.

Until I got the credit card, I used postal money orders to pay all my bills well in advance. I figured that by never having a late payment charge, it offset any paltry interest I might be missing from keeping my money in the bank. Instead the account credits I had at all the utilities served as money in the bank. By paying half a year's worth at once, I saved on the flat-rate money order fees, envelopes and postage.

Now I simply go to the bank that administers my credit card. Even though I don't have an account with them, they'll take my utility payments for a fee of $1 each. I still keep account credits though. As I said, money in the bank.

The banksters don't know what to think of me. I come waltzing in wearing my BTC ballcap and give them cash, only to find I don't have an account. Some of the flunkies tellers recognize the symbol on my cap and a few of them have struck up a conversation about it. One of them, obviously a real go-getter, even tried to talk me into selling some coins to "invest" in one of their fine financial products. LOL.
Lmao, yeah bankers really love trying to talk you into buying their crap. It's always fun to talk to them for ages just to slowly reveal that you know what they are up to and that their products are complete trash by introducing little facts in the form of questions one by one.



572. Post 30433714 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 16, 2018, 06:25:27 PM
Well..looks like everyone has been eating their Wheaties this morning....good...must be time for some game theory. Btfd's.

http://trust.fehradvice.com/
This is amazing.

I got some good advice once. Treat everyone the best you can when you first meet, and after that treat them how they treat you. In this particular game, that worked great.

Edit: I AM COPYCAT!
Brilliant intro into Game Theory. Wish schools sought out such ways to introduce students to concepts.

I'm mostly a copycat too. Nice to everybody I meet, then just adapt to their behaviour. There haven't been many cases where I'd cut someone off entirely for being a massive twat. Arguing with people can be tons of fun though, not to mention the intellectual exercise, so I don't mind hostile encounters as long as they don't get physical.



573. Post 30433901 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 16, 2018, 07:20:45 PM
"I got into Bitcoin because I was a computer geek who loved the concepts of open-source software, peer-to-peer networking and cryptography."

"I had sufficient confidence in the importance of this new technology to not only hold on to all of my coins when the price dropped to $50, but to keep buying more."

"It was never about trying to get rich. It was about doing something good."

"All we can do is play the cards we're dealt as best we can."

I really have a man crush on your ideology Jimmie. Refreshing to know I am not alone.

Something else to ponder...This Wall we observe...this is a historical document..one wonders what will be thought about it in the future. Some of the replies and responses left here will potentially guide future generations.

Think about these things as you glibly type down what ever stray thought comes to mind. We are the forerunners of a paradigm shift in not only the world of financial markets but in the basic fundamental structure of society.

tl;dr  Raise the bar.
I actually love how the internet makes it much easier for people who feel disillusioned with their environment to find nudges towards a better future. Based on my environment I should be an envious bumbling idiot who complains about evil rich and successful people, not to mention overly arrogant and ignorant. Really glad I got into games and the internet at a young age, since I would've most certainly lost my drive otherwise.



574. Post 30436676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on February 16, 2018, 08:15:36 PM
Sometimes I seriously wonder if people have some unconscious desire to be poor and mediocre. I just cannot fathom how somebody could wish to be more than they are without trying to work towards that goal with even the tiniest increments.

This bothers me a lot about people. I can't get why they are not willing to change up their lifestyle and mindset to reach the goals they desire. My theory on why so far, is that they are easier satisfied and they are happy enough with things staying like the way they are. Therefore don't feel the need to work on oneself. Some people just don't need much in life and are perfectly fine being mediocre. It's something that I sometimes I admire in people, the simplicity of being satisfied with less.
But why would they complain so much if they were satisfied? And why would depression and suicide rates both be climbing?


Quote from: infofront on February 16, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
I have a bank account and some credit cards with just enough to pay the bills. The rest are in crypto. It's more convenient and you do build up a good credit rating or credit score if you pay off all your cards or keep utilization below 5%.

When you guys talk about credit utilization.... do you mean something like deferring payments instead of paying the bill at end of month?

Never knew anyone that would do that. Looks suicidal considering the extreme interest. I would expect someone having to resort to that type of credit to be on the verge of bankruptcy already. Same with the people leasing or buying cars on credit (although I know some of those).

If you have good credit, you can easily find offers of 12-18 months at 0% interest.
When bitcoin began tanking last month I opened one of these. I did the same in 2014.
Damn, I wish there was 0% interest available here. I'd load up hard.



575. Post 30438141 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 16, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
I thought this was a really good comparison: Striking similarity between Ellen DeGeneres' 2018 "Bitcoin Explanation" and 1994 Today's Show "What is the Internet, Anyway?"

Perhaps 2018 is bitcoin's 1994.
Hopefully not to the tee. If the timeline was the same we'd be quite far off from mainstream adoption. Wouldn't mind seeing it a bit earlier than that. Wasn't the internet fairly unpopular until 2012ish and on? Don't really remember when it exploded anymore since I kept doing my thing unphased.



576. Post 30439307 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: fragout on February 16, 2018, 08:52:52 PM
Hopefully not to the tee. If the timeline was the same we'd be quite far off from mainstream adoption. Wouldn't mind seeing it a bit earlier than that. Wasn't the internet fairly unpopular until 2012ish and on? Don't really remember when it exploded anymore since I kept doing my thing unphased.

Not sure of the year but I think it exploded when the 56k modem finally arrived and you didn't have to wait 30 minutes for a playboy pic to load anymore.
Maybe the US was different, but I remember the internet still being very much fringe even when the first DSL flat rates were just coming out.

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on February 16, 2018, 08:58:29 PM
Sometimes I seriously wonder if people have some unconscious desire to be poor and mediocre. I just cannot fathom how somebody could wish to be more than they are without trying to work towards that goal with even the tiniest increments.

This bothers me a lot about people. I can't get why they are not willing to change up their lifestyle and mindset to reach the goals they desire. My theory on why so far, is that they are easier satisfied and they are happy enough with things staying like the way they are. Therefore don't feel the need to work on oneself. Some people just don't need much in life and are perfectly fine being mediocre. It's something that I sometimes I admire in people, the simplicity of being satisfied with less.
But why would they complain so much if they were satisfied? And why would depression and suicide rates both be climbing?


That is a very good question, but we cannot just assume that it's because the whole population of the poor and mediocre are all depressed and suicidal deep inside. Even smart people seem to be more likely to be depressed and doubt one self. Because they tend to live more in their head and overthink things.

With the arrival of the information age I think we have produced way more smart people than ever before. The internet has become such a powerful tool to educate yourself, anybody with an cellphone has a tremendous amount of knowledge in their pocket. Too bad many people choose to not use it to it's fullest potential. So that could be one of the reasons why depression and suicide rates are climbing. I'm not sure I have not done research on this matter.

I overthink 24/7. It's what I enjoy the most, even when it gets frustrating at times. Also, having information available or even knowing it by heart doesn't mean that you're going to be great at assimilating it or at creating things by drawing from your knowledge and reshaping it into something new. It's why schools utterly fail to produce outstanding people.

But you're right, depression isn't just common among mediocre people. I believe there was a study that concluded that people with much less (e.g. those that are basically starving and have nothing) tend to be happier on average than people in first world countries. Not sure how rigorous that study was though.



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Quote from: julian071 on February 16, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
Sometimes I seriously wonder if people have some unconscious desire to be poor and mediocre. I just cannot fathom how somebody could wish to be more than they are without trying to work towards that goal with even the tiniest increments.

This bothers me a lot about people. I can't get why they are not willing to change up their lifestyle and mindset to reach the goals they desire. My theory on why so far, is that they are easier satisfied and they are happy enough with things staying like the way they are. Therefore don't feel the need to work on oneself. Some people just don't need much in life and are perfectly fine being mediocre. It's something that I sometimes I admire in people, the simplicity of being satisfied with less.

It's a matter of perspective. Some may find the persuit of riches a display of emptyness of the soul, and poor, in a spiritual way. Mediocre, so to speak.

My GF will never ever be rich. She works with the elderly in a nursing home. Pays shit and is totally brutal in all kinds of ways from time to time. On the other hand very rewarding too, the people she takes care of are often very grateful (when they're not flinging their own feces because they're so demented they think that is the only way to defend themselves from the strangers they find themselves surrounded with).

I could never ever do that kind of work, respect her very much for it. Find it a lot harder to respect people who think they are better because they are richer.
I would even go as far as arguing that rich people who think they're better than others are the biggest retards of all for having "made it" without learning anything whatsoever along the way.



578. Post 30440961 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Wekkel on February 16, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
In terms of awareness it is probably 1998 but adoption wise it is probably around 1995 with just the university kids on the Net. Cool colleagues have just started trading crypto but the rest is still ignoring it. Some probably will the rest of their lives  Grin
I'm not even sure if the mainstream will get into crypto the same way as us. I could see them using it as a replacement for Paypal and credit cards in the "far" future or in some more sophisticated form of cryptokittes. But the general population isn't into risks, especially if they aren't very obvious and layed out for you as if you were braindead (like modern games). And crypto is inherently fuzzy and unpredictable without an understanding of real world Economics or at least Statistics.



579. Post 30441143 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 16, 2018, 09:52:44 PM
...
Perhaps 2018 is bitcoin's 1994.
...By 1998 things had changed alot.  Win 95/98 IE/Netscape made it much more useful and simple to use the internet and sites began to proliferate.  I had dropped out to take a 35k job at a search engine optimization company (which seemed like alot at the time) that quickly went out of biz, but my connections from that job led to other connections that have kept me working for the 20 years since.

tldr; if it's 1994,  buckle up, things will be unrecognizable in 4 years.

What would be our Netscape moment? Or AOL temporary dominance?
Is Lightning a.k.a Netscape (without the IPO) and is Coinbase/Binance/Bitfinex, perhaps, the AOL equivalent?
Or, would it be something else out of left field?

We need a third layer solution with a stable unit of account.  Or a way of using Lightning but pricing everything in local currrency so it is fully automated and no one has to think in BTC or Satoshis. 
I actually expect the latter to happen in one form or another. The blockchain being the backbone of the financial world, but the mainstream believing that they are still using fiat. People don't like instability and uncertainty, even if it's beneficial to them.



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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 16, 2018, 10:00:35 PM
With the arrival of the information age I think we have produced way more smart people than ever before. The internet has become such a powerful tool to educate yourself, anybody with an cellphone has a tremendous amount of knowledge in their pocket. Too bad many people choose to not use it to it's fullest potential.

you might be confusing 'smartness' with something else entirely ... idiots educated beyond the level of their intellectual capacity is not a new phenomena .... probably the internet has just created a swag more of these dangerous fools .... case in point take jbreher with his dunning-kruger tendencies now leading him to write in overly-eloquent verbiage to convey trivial, and usually erroneous, meandering thoughts; then hops on his high-horse about a computer science and networking design matter that is clearly well-outside his grasp, and follows up to defend his bruised ego by championing a cause that is clearly to his economic detriment ... that fact alone encapsulates educated beyond their intelligence.
I've been meaning to ask, but what is the product series in your avatar?

The only things that come to mind are sine and cosine, but those are sums and have 2pi in their summands. So I thought it could be something along the lines of a log of a negative exponential due to the -1 factor that doesn't appear in the standard expression for the exponential series and the product could've been a result of a logarithm.
But that wouldn't really make sense either, unless you were deliberately trying to create a series that looks complicated, makes some references, but ultimately is just a fancy way to write something like "1".

Don't really feel like refreshing my analysis to figure out the limit of the series, hence my question.



581. Post 30442038 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 16, 2018, 10:14:39 PM
I've been meaning to ask, but what is the product series in your avatar?

The only things that come to mind are sine and cosine, but those are sums and have 2pi in their summands. So I thought it could be something along the lines of a log of a negative exponential due to the -1 factor that doesn't appear in the standard expression for the exponential series and the product could've been a result of a logarithm.

it is the series for a function I discovered that has some useful and interesting properties. PM me if you want to know any more.
PM sent.



582. Post 30442527 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 16, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
...
Perhaps 2018 is bitcoin's 1994.
...By 1998 things had changed alot.  Win 95/98 IE/Netscape made it much more useful and simple to use the internet and sites began to proliferate.  I had dropped out to take a 35k job at a search engine optimization company (which seemed like alot at the time) that quickly went out of biz, but my connections from that job led to other connections that have kept me working for the 20 years since.

tldr; if it's 1994,  buckle up, things will be unrecognizable in 4 years.

What would be our Netscape moment? Or AOL temporary dominance?
Is Lightning a.k.a Netscape (without the IPO) and is Coinbase/Binance/Bitfinex, perhaps, the AOL equivalent?
Or, would it be something else out of left field?

If I would guess, this. There is this accelerated curve(parabolic) of technology and innovation that has occured over the last 50 years. This snowball effect will continue until the Singularity.

I can remember clearly the first time I shilled the internet. It was at my friends printing shop..you know..the kind with a actual 3 color offset press...not a photocopier...anyway. I was helping him set up a basic db for hes revolving accounts on DOS 3.something and telling him the benefits he would receive if he would just upgrade from a 14.4k to a 28.8k modem.   Cheesy  
I don't see a singularity putting a stop to the snowball effect. It's "just" an event comparable to going from apes to humans, but there'll be new problems that will take decades and centuries to solve.

A singularity doesn't just imply an explosion of productivity and capacity, or I guess you could state it that way. But that would also entail the capacity to produce problems that are far beyond the reach of a society that is well into the singularity.

If we think of teleportation or FTL travel we can't even really begin to fathom how to construct a practical solution. And while those problems may or may not become trivial with a singularity event, there'd surely be problems of similar status for a post-singularity society.



583. Post 30485020 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?



584. Post 30486448 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?
I am saddened to know that I will never become more than a billionaire   Cry
Are you that old? Or just no ambition to try and shoot higher?



585. Post 30486572 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2018, 04:06:32 PM
So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?
I am saddened to know that I will never become more than a billionaire   Cry
Are you that old? Or just no ambition to try and shoot higher?
There is no hard limit to how much one bitcoin can be worth, but there is a soft limit. And I only have so many of them.
So it's the latter (aka no interest to invest, trade, or start ventures).



586. Post 30487235 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2018, 04:11:44 PM
So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?
I am saddened to know that I will never become more than a billionaire   Cry
Are you that old? Or just no ambition to try and shoot higher?
There is no hard limit to how much one bitcoin can be worth, but there is a soft limit. And I only have so many of them.
So it's the latter (aka no interest to invest, trade, or start ventures).
Sure, maybe, but that's not really my thing.

My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do. That's why I went all in on bitcoin in the first place, to make enough money so I wouldn't have to work and could focus on my hypothetical future family, because that's what kids need to develop properly. They need their parents around. So if it's a choice between having enough money to support a woman and five kids, or having twice as much money and seeing them a quarter as much, then it's an obvious choice.
How are we not designed to work 24/7? That's what people were doing when they lived in the woods and that has changed only fairly recently as far as I'm aware.

I do share the sentiment of making sure to have enough money to be able to freely ignore the world whenever I choose to. But I don't see myself not spending most of my time working on something, regardless of whether or not normal people would consider it work. I find picking up instruments and composition, science, cooking, investing, traveling and whatever else highly interesting. So the reason for me wanting full financial independence for life would be to the ability to learn and experience as much as I possibly can. And while I really want kids that I can homeschool and learn stuff with together, I'd need to make sure that the wife was perfect for that kind of lifestyle. Don't want someone nagging all day about how they know better when they don't.
But in either case, whatever you do, unless you're just consuming 24/7 you'd be "working" in my book. Life seems more of a choice between doing something fulfilling and mindlessly playing along.



587. Post 30501819 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2018, 04:27:24 PM
So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?
I am saddened to know that I will never become more than a billionaire   Cry
Are you that old? Or just no ambition to try and shoot higher?
There is no hard limit to how much one bitcoin can be worth, but there is a soft limit. And I only have so many of them.
So it's the latter (aka no interest to invest, trade, or start ventures).
Sure, maybe, but that's not really my thing.

My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do. That's why I went all in on bitcoin in the first place, to make enough money so I wouldn't have to work and could focus on my hypothetical future family, because that's what kids need to develop properly. They need their parents around. So if it's a choice between having enough money to support a woman and five kids, or having twice as much money and seeing them a quarter as much, then it's an obvious choice.
How are we not designed to work 24/7? That's what people were doing when they lived in the woods and that has changed only fairly recently as far as I'm aware.
No, the actual work in a tribe is maybe 4 hours a day or so. The rest of the time is spent socializing, fucking, and relaxing.

Agriculture allowed us to feed... say 20 times as many people on the same amount of land. But it also meant a lot more work. And the resulting population growth gave us a whole other set of problems.

I do share the sentiment of making sure to have enough money to be able to freely ignore the world whenever I choose to. But I don't see myself not spending most of my time working on something, regardless of whether or not normal people would consider it work. I find picking up instruments and composition, science, cooking, investing, traveling and whatever else highly interesting. So the reason for me wanting full financial independence for life would be to the ability to learn and experience as much as I possibly can. And while I really want kids that I can homeschool and learn stuff with together, I'd need to make sure that the wife was perfect for that kind of lifestyle. Don't want someone nagging all day about how they know better when they don't.
But in either case, whatever you do, unless you're just consuming 24/7 you'd be "working" in my book. Life seems more of a choice between doing something fulfilling and mindlessly playing along.
What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.
Fair enough. I was only thinking about the actual process of a job vs the process of learning something else. The lack of choice was always the most important factor in my dislike of jobs and formal education though.



588. Post 30502449 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 17, 2018, 08:21:47 PM
Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

"getting" ?
The US was one of the countries that I was considering moving into for tax reasons. But the fact that they have a fucking exit tax on top of the already criminally high tax rates put me off. Not to mention all the fucking idiots that feel like starting shit in public for no good reason (retards like the dipshit in Vegas, Antifa, etc.). Having to look up if there's some stupid event that should best be avoid whenever I go out doesn't seem particularly fun.



589. Post 30503439 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Torque on February 17, 2018, 09:05:50 PM
Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Most Americans don't know that in 1913, a permanent Federal income tax was passed into law primarily because it was sold to the American citizens as a "tax on the rich". And they bought it.

Ever since then, the rich have been lobbying Congress to pass tax loopholes to enable the massive shift from taxing the rich to purely taxing the middle class and the poor.

Smart fuckers. Learn to play their game, or get left in the dust.
The irony is too strong. Bunch of dweebs trying to legally steal money from "the rich" getting screwed. I genuinely love the world that we live in.



590. Post 30505054 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 17, 2018, 09:39:48 PM
this thread is sucking dog balls right now

wtf?
Did you think that threads could somehow be perma bull markets ? Smiley

Quote from: suchmoon on February 17, 2018, 09:23:28 PM
How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.
Even with the internet around today, the vast majority of people still doesn't know about the most basic facts about how modern society has come to be.



591. Post 30506110 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 17, 2018, 10:11:23 PM
this thread is sucking dog balls right now
wtf?

Waiting for the pressure to break through $11k, yo. Chill, homie.

Drink while you wait, anyone?
I'll have a scotch with some diet coke and ice. Roll Eyes



592. Post 30506692 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 17, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
I'll have a scotch with some diet coke and ice. Roll Eyes
This may be the most inflammatory remark on the interwebs.
Ice I can just about see, but why would you go and ruin it by mixing with




scotch?
I figured Scotch would be the ultimate drink for the Ultimate Jerk Centre.



593. Post 30507287 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: cofefeGandalf on February 17, 2018, 10:38:45 PM
snip

Member that? cofefeGandalf members.

Dafukk I'm old SEND HELP!

Back on topic*: Someone else smelling FOMO in the air?

*kindof
Not enough of it.



594. Post 30508147 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 17, 2018, 10:48:18 PM
Walls are tumbling down Cool

The last one seems a bit far fetched...



595. Post 30508220 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 17, 2018, 10:51:02 PM
snip

Member that? cofefeGandalf members.

Dafukk I'm old SEND HELP!

Back on topic*: Someone else smelling FOMO in the air?

*kindof
Not enough of it.

That's a good thing, IMO. This is the time for for slow and steady gains - like the nearly 90% or so we've seen since the bottom, a couple weeks ago.
Well, it's better for the market, but I can't say that I'm not missing the insane up and down game. I love watching dozens of annual salaries appearing out of and disappearing into the void on an hourly basis.



596. Post 30511270 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 18, 2018, 12:54:51 AM
Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.
I'm not sure if that's very healthy in the long run. There's bound to be vastly more non-spectacular pull back days than the converse.



597. Post 30511335 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 12:47:49 AM
Page count/ price parity has been broken. New goalz 2018!  Keep posting and shoveling fuel into that choo choo.

I need to make this shelf train arrangement with lights and whistles to run on when the price goes choo choo!

(on can never have enough distracting toys!)







That's a great idea. Set it to run whenever we hit a new ATH.
How about a multi-room track, where specific rooms are circled depending on whether the price has gone up or down in the past 24 hours? E.g. the train making rounds through room A & B while prices went up in the past 24 hours , and rooms C & D when prices went down. Then you could start hating specific rooms with a passion the longer the train runs.



598. Post 30511375 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 18, 2018, 01:00:37 AM
Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.
I'm not sure if that's very healthy in the long run. There's bound to be vastly more non-spectacular pull back days than the converse.

No, it's just a game. I can stop anytime I want.
The last time I said that I ended up clocking 1800 days of playtime into a single game.



599. Post 30511945 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 18, 2018, 01:04:57 AM
Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.
Good job you can still remember it!

I'm honestly beginning to fear that my retirement years are going to be spent running out first thing in the morning for a covfefe and 6 pack of beer, and loafing in this thread all day.
I fail to see the problem.



600. Post 30542357 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:03:25 AM
The average transaction fee on Bcash is now more expensive than the average transaction fee on Bitcoin.


BCash is a store of value! Roll Eyes



601. Post 30542486 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Wekkel on February 18, 2018, 10:48:13 AM
I do not think you can call BCash small units Satoshi...

Perhaps BeeCashis?
How about Larvae? Bee? No?



602. Post 30543428 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 18, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
I do not think you can call BCash small units Satoshi, I would never go that far: they might be called jihans maybe but definitely not Satoshis. Wink


hahahahaha


or Rogers

"Roger that"
Does he actually use "Roger that"?



603. Post 30549165 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: 600watt on February 18, 2018, 02:10:51 PM
smoking gun detected.

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A Polish Youtuber, with around one million subscribers, was paid circa $30,000 by the Central Bank of Poland, in collaboration with the Polish Financial Supervision Authority, to portray cryptocurrencies in a negative light without disclosing the payment in the video.

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The Central Bank of Poland has admitted that “it carried out a campaign on the issue of virtual currencies in social media,” without providing any further comment on the matter.

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/02/17/polands-central-bank-secretly-paid-youtubers-slander-cryptos


imagine how many government agencies besides the central bank have engaged in such fuck-up propaganda. and now add the 180 other countries besides Poland and all their agencies/departments. and now add all the private companies besides agencies like private banks, clearing houses, credit card companies, etc, etc, etc, etc that fear/hate bitcoin.

now you know why there is an never ending rotten spill of shills, bitcoin-doomers, haters, distractors, trolls, fuck-ups in this forum. they are all paid. they are professional trolls. ignore them, don't quote them, don't read them. their agenda is to sow FUD inside your brain... don't let them.
Beautiful. I love how they are digging their own hole.



604. Post 30552250 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Rsiyz on February 18, 2018, 03:07:38 PM
smoking gun detected.

Quote
A Polish Youtuber, with around one million subscribers, was paid circa $30,000 by the Central Bank of Poland, in collaboration with the Polish Financial Supervision Authority, to portray cryptocurrencies in a negative light without disclosing the payment in the video.

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The Central Bank of Poland has admitted that “it carried out a campaign on the issue of virtual currencies in social media,” without providing any further comment on the matter.

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/02/17/polands-central-bank-secretly-paid-youtubers-slander-cryptos


imagine how many government agencies besides the central bank have engaged in such fuck-up propaganda. and now add the 180 other countries besides Poland and all their agencies/departments. and now add all the private companies besides agencies like private banks, clearing houses, credit card companies, etc, etc, etc, etc that fear/hate bitcoin.

now you know why there is an never ending rotten spill of shills, bitcoin-doomers, haters, distractors, trolls, fuck-ups in this forum. they are all paid. they are professional trolls. ignore them, don't quote them, don't read them. their agenda is to sow FUD inside your brain... don't let them.
Beautiful. I love how they are digging their own hole.


LOL  .. you digiging own .. but if somebody pump whole cryptoworld with 500 billions

Am I supposed to be taking anything away from your post other than incoherent babbling?



605. Post 30561763 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 18, 2018, 05:42:31 PM
I'm just going to chime in here, and suggest that we call a single, divisible unit of BCash as a "cuck".

It just seems fitting somehow... Roger watching his slimy projects getting fucked by other people...
Works for me... I mean... Roger that.



606. Post 30562024 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 05:49:24 PM
I'm just going to chime in here, and suggest that we call a single, divisible unit of BCash as a "cuck".

It just seems fitting somehow... Roger watching his slimy projects getting fucked by other people...

meh

too politically loaded

also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult
It is a word that has a specific meaning. It's not specifically an insult, although some people choose to take it as such.
Taking insult is always a matter of choice. No exceptions.



607. Post 30565376 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 18, 2018, 06:41:36 PM
also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult

Well, I mean, if you enjoy watching your devoted partner being fucked by someone else, then I guess you wouldn't see it as an insult...
If my devoted partner was being fucked by someone else I'd kick them the hell out of my house and not really care about the insult, as I'd be happy to have parted with such a piece of shit of a human being.



608. Post 30566957 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: FartBuddy on February 18, 2018, 07:06:53 PM


I'm saying, cuckoldry is not traditional, or normal behavior, that lends itself towards building a strong nuclear family unit.


I read somewhere that over one in ten people have a father who's not their real father. Cuckoldry seems quite common but surreptitious.
I'm not sure I would call 10% common. And among those 10% there could be any number of children whose father died or just ran away, which would increase the likelihood of an adoptive father. And that's assuming that the one in ten figure is correct in the first place (which I wouldn't be surprised by because most people are impulsive twats that don't have zero self-control).



609. Post 30567703 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 18, 2018, 07:17:51 PM
I'm saying, cuckoldry is not traditional, or normal behavior, that lends itself towards building a strong nuclear family unit.
I read somewhere that over one in ten people have a father who's not their real father. Cuckoldry seems quite common but surreptitious.

Don't confuse cuckoldry with cheating.
Isn't cuckoldry cheating with a resulting pregnancy?

Quote from: explorer on February 18, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
LOL  .. you digiging own .. but if somebody pump whole cryptoworld with 500 billions

Am I supposed to be taking anything away from your post other than incoherent babbling?

No, no.  You really can't take that away from him...
I'm sorry. Sad



610. Post 30569419 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 18, 2018, 07:51:27 PM
...that's assuming that the one in ten figure is correct in the first place (which I wouldn't be surprised by because most people are impulsive twats that don't have zero self-control).

The one in ten figure was for middle class people. They found it could be as high as one in three for working class people, but I can't remember who gathered the statistics.

  My brother's wife's sitster's boyfriend knows a guy in university who claims to be doing a study indicating that NOBODY can be fathered by other than the real FATHER and that number is actually FIVE TIMES greater in Iceland.

  Come on guys at least post some sources for your bullshit.
 

I did somw googling and other studies dispute this, but ...

https://canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx

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In the early 1970s, a schoolteacher in southern England assigned a class science project in which his students were to find out the blood types of their parents. The students were then to use this information to deduce their own blood types (because a gene from each parent determines your blood type, in most instances only a certain number of combinations are possible). Instead, 30 per cent of the students discovered their dads were not their biologically fathers.

"The classroom was, of course, not the ideal place to find out this information," said Prof. Dickens, who is often consulted on ethical issues by geneticists at the Hospital for Sick Children.


Also there's the strange, but true story of twins with different biological fathers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/09/twins-with-different-fathers_n_9416074.html

 Thanks.  I read the first link and this guys takes the cake.

In March, 1999, the results arrived by mail -- a creased piece of paper telling him that not one of the three boys was his.

"I felt anger toward [my first wife] and sadness, and I felt so sorry for my kids," Mr. Wise recalled. "I told my boys, 'I love you all, you'll always be my sons, the only difference is now I'm not your birth father.' "

Despite this revelation, a district court judge ruled that Mr. Wise had to continue paying child support for the three boys. Based on a 500-year-old common law, most states operate on the presumption that a husband is the father of any child born to his wife during a marriage.

Mr. Wise took his case to the media, hoping to generate political support and contact other men in a similar situation. Instead, he angered the judge, who revoked his visitation rights to the children but left him responsible for $1,100 (U.S.) in monthly support.

"This," Mr. Wise warned, "could happen to anyone."


 Over a 13 year marriage they had three boys and one girl...  I think that guy was working way too much overtime.



That judge needs lifetime in jail for making a joke out of the justice system.



611. Post 30571977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 08:29:14 PM
Try to see it from the judges perspective.  There are 4 kids which need to be raised.  That takes money. Let’s assume the wife can’t work because the kids are too little and there’s too many of them.  

The judge’s primary job is to make sure the kids are looked after.  Everyone else can stand in line.

The daughter is his - he has to pay child support for her. The sons, well he says he loves them and has raised them as his own.  But he comes into court waving a piece of paper (which could be forged for all the judge knows) and flapping his gums about how this is his get out of jail free card and now he doesn’t have to pay any money to raise his sons hahahahahaha.  

The judge doesn’t give a fuck about a piece of paper.  He knows that if he orders child support for only the daughter, that’s not enough money and probably all 5 of them (mother, daughter, three sons) will either be homeless or destitute.  So he orders child support for all four kids.

The husband goes on a massive media campaign because MUH RIGHTS.  He kicks up a national fuss. Does the husband give a shit about the kids?  No he doesn’t.  He only cares about MUH RIGHTS.

So the kids are now the center of a national media firestorm.  They are probably getting picked on at school.  So the judge uses the only tool in his toolkit and revokes access, because it’s obvious the hunsbad doesn’t give a fuck about the kids either, he just wants to be flow first class to New York to talk to Howard Stern about MUH RIGHTS.

I expect I am wasting my breath in here but there you go.  

The mother should be homeless if she can't fend for herself at this point. And the kids should be taken into custody.

The mother has already made it perfectly clear that she is not mentally capable of taking responsibility for her own actions, which indicates that she doesn't have the capacity of taking reseponsibility for raising children either. Allowing the kids to stay with that person will just increase the likelihood of such events repeating in the future.
And forcing the "father" to pay increases the chances of other women cheating on men while still extorting money out of them for kids that are not theirs. So setting such a precedent is wholly irresponsible by the judge and an abuse of power (to the detriment of society as a whole).



612. Post 30572383 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 08:41:50 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.



613. Post 30573177 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 08:53:02 PM
Family is what matters. I am the most important part of my family, and everyone is almost as important. Those brats fathered by someone else? Not family. The cheating whore who lied to me and tricked me into spending money and effort raising some bastard spawn? Negative fucking family. She deserves to suffer, and the other kids deserve their real father.

Quote from: explorer on February 18, 2018, 08:54:01 PM
If you don't take care of yourself first (nobody else will) then you will not be of much use to the others for long.  Self first IS the long view.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  Set an example.
Would merit, but ran out. So QFT instead.



614. Post 30573392 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 18, 2018, 08:58:48 PM
Insulting someone is a full-fledged speech act. It requires nothing from the subject. Insults come unpacked upon delivery. That said, it's a word only a gAlt-Right twat would use.
Innit, Bob?

If said word is "cuck", then no, I would not claim it's a word the alt-right "twats" would exclusively use.

Amusing perspective, though. Most of the IRL cuckolds I have been made aware of, swing liberal.
The "altright" (or whatever on YT) seems to like to use the word. But yes, I've noticed it being mostly the SJW type person that is into whoring around, or as they like to call it "polyarmory". Heck, there was some article that claimed that cuckoldry is a positive thing for a relationship. I guess they've never heard of communication, or at least toys. I expect a lot of midlife crisis and late-life depression as they look back on their lives a few decades from now. The easy way out never goes well after all.



615. Post 30573490 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Searing on February 18, 2018, 09:02:29 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.

Sure, giant foster homes...that has worked good in the past and other countries today (not) ... see how well that worked in the 20's and 30's ... taking kids away from unwed mothers


There's a difference between unwed mothers and pathological liars and cheaters. And having the latter raise a child is on average going to produce more pathological liars and cheaters.



616. Post 30573816 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 09:07:45 PM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
"More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

State with roughly 50% more Democrats than Republicans. So your comment doesn't seem to hold under scrutiny.



617. Post 30573900 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Also, since I'm not from the US I'm not fully aware of what is going on in that first world shithole. But wasn't California the same place that talked about cutting itself off from the rest of the US and become independent when Trump took office?



618. Post 30573918 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
"More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

State with roughly 50% more Democrats than Republicans. So your comment doesn't seem to hold under scrutiny.

You planning on being homeless in Fargo or San Diego?  Choose one.  
I don't know what either of those places look like. And it has no bearing on the argument. You've made a remark, and I've demonstrated it to be false.



619. Post 30574188 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 09:18:06 PM
Also, since I'm not from the US I'm not fully aware of what is going on in that first world shithole. But wasn't California the same place that talked about cutting itself off from the rest of the US and become independent when Trump took office?
It's the most leftist state out of the bunch, to my understanding.
That would just further drive the nail into the coffin. Hopefully the firing of that Google Engineer sparked the beginning of a shift. It's hard to watch what I used to believe in (Google - which to me used to mean neutral discourse of all the human mind has to offer) to be such a dishonest and politicized shithole. I'm so fucking happy that I decided against working with them and going the academia route instead before setting foot in the industry.



620. Post 30574289 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
I’m not from the US either but I’m familiar with its geography. Fargo is in North Dakota.  It’s bitterly cold in winter.  You will die from exposure if you are in the open.  San Diego is close to the Mexican border.  It is warm.  You will not die.

California also has a population of 40 million. North Dakota has a population of 800,000.

That’s two very good reasons why you would expect more homeless in California than North Dakota.  

I don’t even know why I am talking about this.
You can fling absolute numbers, but my post indicated that a quarter of the US homeless population is in California. Meanwhile, California only has around 12% of the US population (which is less than an eighth).

Also, we're talking about this because you've made an absolutely ignorant and generalizing remark which doesn't even make sense.



621. Post 30575110 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: 600watt on February 18, 2018, 09:39:06 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
No. I come first. Then my kids - (...)


I seriously doubt you have kids. and if so, I feel really sorry for them.
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.



622. Post 30575137 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 18, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
Are we going to the moon tomorrow or fucking what?
Which moon?



623. Post 30575352 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 09:44:25 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
No. I come first. Then my kids - (...)


I seriously doubt you have kids. and if so, I feel really sorry for them.
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
And that's what most commonly happens.

Stefan Molyneux deals with shit like that. Not subbed to him, but he does have a good deal of insight into family issues.
Well holy fuck. That's sobering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjp55-0W2QE



624. Post 30577479 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: suchmoon on February 18, 2018, 10:30:50 PM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
"More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

State with roughly 50% more Democrats than Republicans. So your comment doesn't seem to hold under scrutiny.

You planning on being homeless in Fargo or San Diego?  Choose one.  
I don't know what either of those places look like. And it has no bearing on the argument. You've made a remark, and I've demonstrated it to be false.

You haven't. How does California's homeless population "demonstrate" anything about alt-right or their relationships?

It's like saying that racist bile in this thread is making Bitcoin go up. It might be the case for all I know but I'd like to see the evidence.
He insisted that the average alt-right is "unemployed". Given that a quarter of all homeless people in the US are found in California, the most left state in the US, it's clear that I have.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:32:17 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
No. I come first. Then my kids - (...)


I seriously doubt you have kids. and if so, I feel really sorry for them.
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
You appear to like thinking in absolutes.  Life doesn't work that way.  If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her? There are moments when there is a tradeoff between what is best for you personally, and what is best for them.
You don't get it. What is best for me, what I mean by putting myself first, is that my kids have the best possible life I can give them. What you call sacrificing for others is my selfishness. And the stronger and smarter and richer I am, the more I can do for them.

Like making your children homeless or putting them into state custody per the example of the court case earlier in the thread.  
They were not his children. How many times are you going to attempt to make this false argument?



625. Post 30577611 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on February 18, 2018, 10:22:22 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
No. I come first. Then my kids - (...)


I seriously doubt you have kids. and if so, I feel really sorry for them.
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
You appear to like thinking in absolutes.  Life doesn't work that way.  If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her? There are moments when there is a tradeoff between what is best for you personally, and what is best for them.
I understand very well how life works. And making sure that I put myself in the best position that I possibly could from the above mentioned perspectives ensures that my children will be significantly better off than the children of somebody who chose to play along with their peers instead.

Do I have to argue out how being emotionally stable, intellectually honest, and financially independent are traits that would be beneficial for any child's parents to have?



626. Post 30577796 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:41:17 PM
One of the four was his biological child.  The other three children he had raised as his own from birth.

To turn his back on those children for something that was not the fault of those children, means he is a piece of shit.
Yes. One out of four. That doesn't mean that he should be paying child support for four out of four but one out of four kids. And not wanting to pay child support for kids that aren't yours isn't the same as not being there for them if they want to visit either, especially when it's to be assumed that most of the child support goes to the filthy cheating whore and not to the children.



627. Post 30577942 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
One of the four was his biological child.  The other three children he had raised as his own from birth.

To turn his back on those children for something that was not the fault of those children, means he is a piece of shit.
Yes. One out of four. That doesn't mean that he should be paying child support for four out of four but one out of four kids. And not wanting to pay child support for kids that aren't yours isn't the same as not being there for them if they want to visit either, especially when it's to be assumed that most of the child support goes to the filthy cheating whore and not to the children.

Tough shit. Man up.  Pay the fucking support.
I don't wish it upon you, but you would certainly deserve getting cheated by the person you love and being forced to pay for 3 kids that aren't yours while knowing that the cunt that cheated on you will be spending the majority of that money.



628. Post 30578113 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:52:21 PM
One of the four was his biological child.  The other three children he had raised as his own from birth.

To turn his back on those children for something that was not the fault of those children, means he is a piece of shit.
Yes. One out of four. That doesn't mean that he should be paying child support for four out of four but one out of four kids. And not wanting to pay child support for kids that aren't yours isn't the same as not being there for them if they want to visit either, especially when it's to be assumed that most of the child support goes to the filthy cheating whore and not to the children.

Tough shit. Man up.  Pay the fucking support.
I don't wish it upon you, but you would certainly deserve getting cheated by the person you love and being forced to pay for 3 kids that aren't yours while knowing that the cunt that cheated on you will be spending the majority of that money.

It’s happened to a buddy of mine. He still loves his kids, pays support and guess what, he now has majority custody because he is the more better parent.  Now the ex-wife only has custody every second weekend.  He has them the rest of the time.
Good for him. He clearly made a choice. And the cunt has no chance to spend his money.

Using that as an argument to force other men to pay for children that are not theirs doesn't fly though.



629. Post 30578675 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on February 18, 2018, 11:06:12 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
No. I come first. Then my kids - (...)


I seriously doubt you have kids. and if so, I feel really sorry for them.
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
You appear to like thinking in absolutes.  Life doesn't work that way.  If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her? There are moments when there is a tradeoff between what is best for you personally, and what is best for them.
I understand very well how life works. And making sure that I put myself in the best position that I possibly could from the above mentioned perspectives ensures that my children will be significantly better off than the children of somebody who chose to play along with their peers instead.

Do I have to argue out how being emotionally stable, intellectually honest, and financially independent are traits that would be beneficial for any child's parents to have?
You could start by actually responding to my argument, Mr. Intellectual Honesty.
You haven't made any arguments. You've brought up a random example that is pretty much irrelevant to the point. But let's entertain it. If I've made sure that I'm financially stable I will be capable of providing better health care to my child as a result.



630. Post 30578743 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 10:59:11 PM
Out of three as if it makes any difference.  These are little people not lines on graphs.
Let me try a different angle.

Do you see how the judges decision to force the man in question to pay for the child support of three children that are not biologically his own with a court order could set a precedent for some women to seek out men out of which they'd essentially extort child support by simply playing nice for a period of time?



631. Post 30579625 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on February 18, 2018, 11:25:52 PM
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
You appear to like thinking in absolutes.  Life doesn't work that way. If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her? There are moments when there is a tradeoff between what is best for you personally, and what is best for them.
I understand very well how life works. And making sure that I put myself in the best position that I possibly could from the above mentioned perspectives ensures that my children will be significantly better off than the children of somebody who chose to play along with their peers instead.

Do I have to argue out how being emotionally stable, intellectually honest, and financially independent are traits that would be beneficial for any child's parents to have?
You could start by actually responding to my argument, Mr. Intellectual Honesty.
You haven't made any arguments. You've brought up a random example that is pretty much irrelevant to the point. But let's entertain it. If I've made sure that I'm financially stable I will be capable of providing better health care to my child as a result.
You think having good health care means your children will never get sick?  Why don't you actually answer the question: If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her?
Do you understand comparatives? I've specifically talked about better health care as a result of putting my own growth above hive mind before having children. And last I've checked better is a descriptor that indicates superiority over inferior instances.
But since that still doesn't seem to get into your head, here's another angle, from the same argument that I've already made multiple times now. If I've made sure to put myself first, which includes emotional stability, then I would still have a far easier time to give up my sleeping hours and be more capable of providing emotional support and soothing to my sick child.

If you put the same amount of effort into understanding my argument that you put into trying to make up some pointless example and trying to twist and bend it to make up nonsensical arguments you might actually get why making sure that you're fully self-responsible before having kids is the highest goal that any parent can achieve (as a person responsible for the life of a child).



632. Post 30579723 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 11:34:47 PM
Out of three as if it makes any difference.  These are little people not lines on graphs.
Let me try a different angle.

Do you see how the judges decision to force the man in question to pay for the child support of three children that are not biologically his own with a court order could set a precedent for some women to seek out men out of which they'd essentially extort child support by simply playing nice for a period of time?

 I believe this falls under caveat emptor.

You are calling women objects there. Might want to check your male privilege.
Hey. Hey don't run off. This is serious. If a feminist saw what you just posted, they would dox you and get you fired. You better disavow yourself while you still have the chance.

(i'm not a feminist. don't worry, i wouldn't even dox you mate. just do the right thing.)
He might be talking about the jurisdictional decision. Which would bring me back to my point of the judge being irresponsible by risking the very same public order that he is supposed to uphold.



633. Post 30580276 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 18, 2018, 11:46:29 PM
To answer the earlier question, the biological father is a deadbeat in another country and irrelevant. The ex-wife takes reasonable care of the kids when they are in her custody and that’s all that really matters.  I don’t care for her other lifestyle choices but again irrelevant.  

My buddy now has a new wife. And she has taken on the stepchildren as her own as well. Even though none of them are hers.  So all of you making a fuss about the kids not being biologically yours, do you think the stepmom should kick these kids out of the house ?  Yeah I thought not.  
You didn't answer the question. However much of a scumbag the biological father is doesn't matter in this argument, which is about setting a dangerous precedent that poses a serious threat to society.

Your buddy also has no relevance to this argument. Whatever choices he freely makes is entirely up to him. Using his choices as a justification for legally forcing somebody to pay for children that are not his is ridiculous.



634. Post 30580457 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on February 18, 2018, 11:44:36 PM
I don't see how somebody who didn't put themselves and their own development (economical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) first would raise children. Such a person would have nothing to offer to their offspring and just propagate problems through generations instead of making improvements.
You appear to like thinking in absolutes.  Life doesn't work that way. If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her? There are moments when there is a tradeoff between what is best for you personally, and what is best for them.
I understand very well how life works. And making sure that I put myself in the best position that I possibly could from the above mentioned perspectives ensures that my children will be significantly better off than the children of somebody who chose to play along with their peers instead.

Do I have to argue out how being emotionally stable, intellectually honest, and financially independent are traits that would be beneficial for any child's parents to have?
You could start by actually responding to my argument, Mr. Intellectual Honesty.
You haven't made any arguments. You've brought up a random example that is pretty much irrelevant to the point. But let's entertain it. If I've made sure that I'm financially stable I will be capable of providing better health care to my child as a result.
You think having good health care means your children will never get sick?  Why don't you actually answer the question: If your small kid is sick and crying in the night, will you offer up your hours of sleep for him/her?
Do you understand comparatives? I've specifically talked about better health care as a result of putting my own growth above hive mind before having children. And last I've checked better is a descriptor that indicates superiority over inferior instances.
But since that still doesn't seem to get into your head, here's another angle, from the same argument that I've already made multiple times now. If I've made sure to put myself first, which includes emotional stability, then I would still have a far easier time to give up my sleeping hours and be more capable of providing emotional support and soothing to my sick child.

If you put the same amount of effort into understanding my argument that you put into trying to make up some pointless example and trying to twist and bend it to make up nonsensical arguments you might actually get why making sure that you're fully self-responsible before having kids is the highest goal that any parent can achieve (as a person responsible for the life of a child).
I never made any claims that being a responsible and self-sufficient person isn't a great start for being a parent, in fact I agree with that.
For me it is strange that you don't see giving up your hours of sleep for someone else and always putting yourself first as logically conflicting, but I guess your personal definition of 'putting yourself first' is different from mine.
If I don't put myself and find myself in a situation where I first have to fend off an attacker before I can tend to my child I would be a moron not to make sure that I'm safe in order to be in a position where I can help my child. There's a reason why you put your own oxygen mask on first, before tending to your child.
It's a very simple order. Make sure that I am in the best position that I can be to help my child, then help my child, and then if I have enough energy left help my wife. And if I can be bothered, then perhaps I might even do something good for the rest of humanity. But that's the dead last priority.
There is a certain amount of growth that needs to take place before you can genuinely provide reasonable support for others, and that takes a long time. There's a reason why there's so many snowflakes on the US left that keep making up the most ridiculous cases such as affirmative action. And I say that as someone who could easily exploit the bullshit that they make up.



635. Post 30580559 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 18, 2018, 11:51:43 PM
Thought experiment. On his way up the dusty trail to retrieve his silver stash, roach encounters ibian asleep. Afraid he might try to steal his silver on the way back down, roach considers poisoning ibian's whisky. And according to the logic of self-interest, he does. Later, ibian shoots roach and robs him. Then he drinks some whisky and dies.

Had roach and ibian cared more about the welfare of others and less about themselves, they would still be alive today.
Jokes on you, I never drink whisky. Or whiskey. Makes me barf. So the bug dies and I get to live. Everyone wins!
I would describe you as a savage. But the internet has deprived the term of the intended meaning.



636. Post 30580733 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 19, 2018, 12:06:13 AM


 I believe this falls under caveat emptor.

Very true.
How about don't stick your dick in a woman you wouldn't want to be the mother of your child.  Simple concept requires long view, self control.  So nevermind, it will never fly.

You believe sex is only for reproduction? Comon...  Cheesy
He never said that you can't pork the mother of your (future) children for fun.



637. Post 30580884 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 19, 2018, 12:09:48 AM
To answer the earlier question, the biological father is a deadbeat in another country and irrelevant. The ex-wife takes reasonable care of the kids when they are in her custody and that’s all that really matters.  I don’t care for her other lifestyle choices but again irrelevant.  

My buddy now has a new wife. And she has taken on the stepchildren as her own as well. Even though none of them are hers.  So all of you making a fuss about the kids not being biologically yours, do you think the stepmom should kick these kids out of the house ?  Yeah I thought not.  
You didn't answer the question. However much of a scumbag the biological father is doesn't matter in this argument, which is about setting a dangerous precedent that poses a serious threat to society.

Your buddy also has no relevance to this argument. Whatever choices he freely makes is entirely up to him. Using his choices as a justification for legally forcing somebody to pay for children that are not his is ridiculous.

Cmon dude. Taking care of children is a serious threat to society? On a forum where most of us have earned more than the US average annual wage in the past week, if not much much more?  You are better than this.


Maybe worry about the alt-right muppets who go shoot up a school every second week.  Now there’s a threat to society.
Do you not understand English? Or am I getting trolled here?



638. Post 30581116 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 19, 2018, 12:16:40 AM
also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult

Well, I mean, if you enjoy watching your devoted partner being fucked by someone else, then I guess you wouldn't see it as an insult...
If my devoted partner was being fucked by someone else I'd kick them the hell out of my house and not really care about the insult, as I'd be happy to have parted with such a piece of shit of a human being.


You MONOGAMIST PIG!!!!!!


Don't you know that sharing is caring?


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Lmao, I'm sorry. Please let me pay 99% of my income in taxes, weeeeeeeeee Cheesy


Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 19, 2018, 12:18:40 AM
Thought experiment. On his way up the dusty trail to retrieve his silver stash, roach encounters ibian asleep. Afraid he might try to steal his silver on the way back down, roach considers poisoning ibian's whisky. And according to the logic of self-interest, he does. Later, ibian shoots roach and robs him. Then he drinks some whisky and dies.

Had roach and ibian cared more about the welfare of others and less about themselves, they would still be alive today.
Jokes on you, I never drink whisky. Or whiskey. Makes me barf. So the bug dies and I get to live. Everyone wins!

It might be 'whiskey' to you. To me it's breakfast.
What is your favourite dram!



639. Post 30581867 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: infofront on February 19, 2018, 12:50:24 AM
lines on graphs.

Ahem. I remember those.

Wrong thread.

Where the hell is the moderator, anyway?
This thread is very moderate.



640. Post 30582368 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 19, 2018, 01:15:10 AM
lines on graphs.
Ahem. I remember those.

Well, my gut is telling me more slowish upwards possibly testing as high as $12k by Friday.

Random Lines on Graph of Google Interest in Bitcoin vs Price over the last 30 days


Why do the Google searches lag behind the price in such a weird way?



641. Post 30582428 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.44h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 19, 2018, 01:18:19 AM
lines on graphs.

Ahem. I remember those.

Wrong thread.

Where the hell is the moderator, anyway?

We are all "special" here and are governed by special rules that allow trolling and off-topicness.

Quote
Special Wall Observer rules: bitcointalk.org moderators do not moderate the Wall Observer thread for multi-posting (except obvious spam), trolling, or on-topicness. Do not use this form to report those violations; instead, contact the thread owner. Reports of other rule violations are OK here.

Yeah, Theymos understood we are all people with "special needs" and confined us all here with our "special" rules. It would be terrible if we were forced to wander around the "regular" forum.
The "regular" forum is a scary place. The discussions that can be found on many of the other boards generally fly way over my head. Makes me feel like I'm missing out. Sad



642. Post 30582924 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Icygreen on February 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM
.......farcebook.

Lol, thats epic...I cant believe I've never seen/heard /thought of  that till now...duhh!     Definitely now my goto term for that along with Twatter.

Faceboob is just as fitting Wink
That would imply that Farcebook was something nice. Sad



643. Post 30623830 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 19, 2018, 03:44:01 PM
Smoking a cigar with a beer in Cape Verde, $11,000 broken, I’ve had worse days.


That's racist.



644. Post 30632540 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: 600watt on February 19, 2018, 05:58:11 PM

Nope. We may yet dip into the $9k's, but I'm buying drinks for the thread if we see $8k's again this year.


quoted. don't underestimate the need for lots of booze for the WO inhabitants when price tanks...  Cheesy
It's not alcoholism when you're shorting the market.


Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 19, 2018, 04:30:05 PM
That's racist.

"ga" or "gah" are, for the most part, considered friendly, colloquial terms. "ger" is where things start turning ugly.

Racist is if I posted something like "My cracker".

"Cracka", or "Crackah" are acceptable colloquialisms, IMO, in an established relationship, to add further perspective.
Does spelling really matter in this regard? Unless you deliberately tried to pronounce it in an "obvious" way I don't think anybody would be able to tell in actual speech, so it seems like something that would be unequivocally either bad or whatever to me.

Weren't you black anyways? (I was trying to poke fun of the leftist narrative in which some black people are being racist against themselves by not being black enough for supporting opposing ideas, which I find hilarious from an independent/non-US citizen perspective.)



645. Post 30633113 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 19, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Downvoted the vid and closed it just from the way he looks and the first two seconds. What a fucking creep.

That's enlightened. Ignore the message because of the way the messenger looks, and the fact that in the first two seconds, he introduces himself by name?

You do realize who this is?
The CEO of BCash?



646. Post 30636914 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Why are we going over the same old BCash nonsense again?



647. Post 30647080 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 19, 2018, 10:31:46 PM
Shares on a public blockchain are going to be a thing. Real shares.  Like Apple and Amazon and even Berkshire Hathaway.  Not this pretend kindergarten shit we have had so far.

But Bitcoin needs a way to record and transfer these shares.  Like colored coins.  There are a bunch of contenders for which public blockchain will win.  It will not be Ripple or Stellar. ETH is the obvious threat but they have their own problems right now. 
This is inevitably going to happen in one form or another and it's why I'm pretty much a perma bull from a strictly financial perspective. Believing in it (decentralization of power) as a good cause is one thing and that's what got me interested initially. But I wouldn't be going nearly all in if I didn't believe in a very high probability of disruption in the financial markets, and I only keep what I need to sustain myself for the next 5-10 years in fiat.
I just can not see equities not moving into the crypto space within the next decade or two. Traditional brokerages are expensive, inefficient, and annoying.

And then there's venture capital, which the average pleb never had access to before Bitcorn. Kickstarter et. al. were one attempt to change up the VC scene, but they were a massive failure (from a zoomed-out perspective, I'm sure the founders are quite happy). The next wave of crowd-finance had insane fees to the website. And now ICOs cut the middle man out entirely.
So as the market matures and we start seeing some better screening and perhaps escrowed funds that get released in batches based on certain conditions (perhaps via smart contracts) we're bound to not only see an increase in financially literate people, but also an increase in businesses.
Paired with all the other stuff that is going on and coming up in the coming years we're bound to see quite a clusterfuck of interesting things springing up everywhere in a fashion that would put the last decades to shame (if one ignored the fact that they were necessary to get here in the first place).

That being said, I think there's enough space for multiple corns in the field, so I don't consider ETH or other chains as a threat, but rather as a healthy driving force of technological progress and mass adoption. At least I can't deny that the hopes of "getting rich quick by buying the next Bitcorn" didn't contribute to the increase in recent interest, and will do so in the future. Gotta be thankful for everybody who gets hooked on Bitcorn, regardless of how they got into it.



648. Post 30647127 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 19, 2018, 10:45:56 PM
Shares on a public blockchain are going to be a thing. Real shares.  Like Apple and Amazon and even Berkshire Hathaway.  Not this pretend kindergarten shit we have had so far.

But Bitcoin needs a way to record and transfer these shares.  Like colored coins.

I donno, a lot of legislation would need to change for that happen. Maybe I could envision one blockchain controlled by notaries where they would register property transfers... but not a P2P real estate blockchain with no authrorized third party involvement needed.

companies will make their own coin and shares will be tied to this

But that needs to be authorized/recognized on a higher state/legal level. Otherwise public property registers are the only valid reference, no matter what ANY "blockchain" says.
Legislation follows. If there's an economic incentive for using a blockchain it will be used, and legislation will follow along.



649. Post 30647473 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 19, 2018, 11:00:49 PM
This is ridiculous. The concept of the "longest chain" only has a meaning considering the same difficulty. When you change that (at that point we are talking about a completely different thing longest or not) you can easily get a longer chain with ANY PoW you want. That's exactly what Bcash did, and now it doesn't matter how long they get, because they are using a lower diffculty and... a smaller accumulated proof of work.

It's obvious that Satoshi thought about all this when he repeated the definition several times, including: "The longest chain which has the greatest proof-of-work effort invested in it" in section 4.

He had hard-forks in consideration, so the only thing that he thought of worthy differentiating between forks is what he stated above. There's no other way to be sure which chain is Bitcoin.

Satoshi also envisioned that miners would attack the contentious fork with the shortest chain and least PoW and kill it off. But that didn't happen. Because he didn't anticipate that miners would contentiously fork and collude to keep said fork alive (along side the main chain), and for selfish or malicious reasons.

Once this happened, all of the dogma of Satoshi's vision in his whitepaper got nullified. All bets are off, Katie bar the door, the end users now have the power to decide what is Bitcoin. Mega miners have fucked themselves as potential bad actors in the system.
I'd personally go with any other altcorn before I'd pick up BCash if BTC magically disappeared over night.



650. Post 30647601 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 19, 2018, 11:05:42 PM
I'd personally go with any other altcorn before I'd pick up BCash if BTC magically disappeared over night.

Same. Or I'd just sell everything and consider the grand experiment a complete failure.
The latter would depend on the overall situation for me. I'm not going to stop investing at any point in my life, so the only way I'd stop being involved with cryptocorns would be if they disappeared or collectively turned into BCash.



651. Post 30648665 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 19, 2018, 11:33:54 PM
It seems like every time one of the US regulatory bodies gets an opportunity to talk about the crypto space, it is positive. It makes you wonder why they are so supportive?

Now, law enforcement is a different story. Individual officers are just trying to get awards and medals for arresting people. Whenever there is a gray area, there is an opportunity for an inventive law enforcement officer to make a move to better their career standing. That isn't necessarily in line with the government's desires.

Why is the US Government so supportive?
They're supportive of 'the crypto space', of 'blockchain' and other distractions, but they admit there's nothing they can do about bitcoin.
The ECB admitted this a while back already as well. I was expecting more of a fight. What else could they possibly (try to) do after essentially admitting that they are powerless?



652. Post 30649223 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 19, 2018, 11:43:55 PM
Many many words...
+10 WOsMerits   Kiss

Somewhere back we where having a delightful conversation...its buried and half forgotten.  
*Hugs*   ....moving forward.

Ditto...

It's like nothing happened, until we get into another BIG HUGE fight, and then at that time, any kind of historical (or hysterical) remnant, whether true or not, will become fair ammunition.  

Projecting our future:

Stap. You're supposed to hate each other for having differences in opinion. Have you learned nothing from politics?



653. Post 30649870 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 12:05:09 AM
Shares on a public blockchain are going to be a thing. Real shares.  Like Apple and Amazon and even Berkshire Hathaway.  Not this pretend kindergarten shit we have had so far.

But Bitcoin needs a way to record and transfer these shares.  Like colored coins.  There are a bunch of contenders for which public blockchain will win.  It will not be Ripple or Stellar. ETH is the obvious threat but they have their own problems right now.  

Do you mean all the ICO's and erc20 stuff from basically 2017?

Yes.

The legislation to support the changes is coming. It will start in the smaller, more agile countries and spread into places like the US.

Problem is that even if they wanted to meant those tokens to be shares that would make the SEC involved. So, currently, those just useless tokens with no representation of ownership.

The SEC will be involved and will bless it. It will all be fully legit.  

Blockchain makes it impossible to rehypothecate  (hmm, not quite the right term, but best I can come up with ATM), so it will not be embraced for equities until it is forced on them.  Ever tried to get a certificate for a stock you 'own'?  Since the broker sold it to 50 different people (number out of my ass) and never bought it in the first place, it is next to impossible.  But very, very profitable!  If I can make time for it, I'll try to dig up some of the articles on it.  Horrifying and fascinating at the same time...

Blockchain will be used for settlement not trading. So if you allow your cryptoshares to stay in your brokers’ account they may be lent without your permission.  Not your keys etc.  

Brokers (not exchanges) are most at threat of disruption.  At least until decentralized exchanges stop being a shit show. Then the revolution really kicks in and exchanges go the way of the dodo too.
Just for clarification. You're saying that classic exchanges will go the way of the dodo, not decentralized ones, right?



654. Post 30650891 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 12:41:38 AM
Just for clarification. You're saying that classic exchanges will go the way of the dodo, not decentralized ones, right?

Correct.  Sorry for not being more clear.  
Don't worry about it. Just making sure I'm still up to date with the latest developments.



655. Post 30653153 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: jbreher on February 20, 2018, 02:17:30 AM
Quote
and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?
You're either highly naive, or dishonest to say the least and I think you're smart enough not to fall into the former category. I'm pretty sure that everybody on this thread knows how the masses react to branding and aggressive marketing.



656. Post 30654405 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 20, 2018, 03:04:35 AM


The writing style does not seem like Tera..... I suppose that the account may have been sold?    She can report that, and maybe admins will freeze usage account?  but if they have no way of verifying who is the real Tera, then they might let it keep operating with the new owner... then we might get a publicly displayed battle between Tera and Tera2, perhaps?
Perhaps some DT members would flag the Tera account if admins won't recover it.



657. Post 30696592 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Wekkel on February 20, 2018, 08:05:53 AM
Let’s do $50k instead of only 40.
~2,5x from the ATH seems kind of low at this point, don't you think? I wouldn't bet my life on even $40k, but I'd be surprised if $50k was going to be this year's ATH.



658. Post 30700749 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 20, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Question for some of you living in the U.S. who have cashed out recently....what exchange do you recommend?

Probably going to get a lot of grief for this...but Coinbase. Coupled with GDAX I personally have had no issue's there. Once I had my bank tied in and made a withdrawl..the process was quick and painless. ymmv.


Now that everyone has has their rest...





...shall we play a game?


Is that how whales sleep... or is that a satanic cult?



659. Post 30704552 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Elwar on February 20, 2018, 05:43:16 PM
So...finex is down and stamp is up.

Is this due to a jump in shorts?
Maybe they ran out of Tether? Roll Eyes



660. Post 30711607 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2018, 07:45:30 PM
This is so confusing. How am I supposed to spend my golden years greeting customers if I'm not poor? There must have been a clerical error. Huh
Do it anyway. A job is now a voluntary activity! Jubilations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc
I'm intrigued. Is this movie worth watching?



661. Post 30713929 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2018, 07:53:06 PM
This is so confusing. How am I supposed to spend my golden years greeting customers if I'm not poor? There must have been a clerical error. Huh
Do it anyway. A job is now a voluntary activity! Jubilations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc
I'm intrigued. Is this movie worth watching?
Yes.

To be completely honest, you only need to watch the intro (and can do so on youtube). But the rest of the movie is alright too.
I'm too much of an assburger to start and stop.

Quote from: Wekkel on February 20, 2018, 07:51:09 PM
This is so confusing. How am I supposed to spend my golden years greeting customers if I'm not poor? There must have been a clerical error. Huh
Do it anyway. A job is now a voluntary activity! Jubilations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc
I'm intrigued. Is this movie worth watching?

Only if you want to see the future...
Sold.



662. Post 30718154 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 09:56:17 PM
Holy fuck the mem pool will be completely empty in 5 hours at this rate. 
We need to stop this immediately. Bitcorn is supposed to have high fees. Won't anybody think of Roger? Sad



663. Post 30718599 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 10:05:25 PM
Holy fuck the mem pool will be completely empty in 5 hours at this rate. 
We need to stop this immediately. Bitcorn is supposed to have high fees. Won't anybody think of Roger? Sad

I wonder if they are giving up on Bcash and moving on to some other scam.  I haven’t heard much publicity since Roger jumped the shark with the gay frogs guy.  
What gay frogs guy?



664. Post 30718647 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 20, 2018, 10:07:16 PM
Holy shit. I think I'm unofficially retired as of an hour ago.

It hasn't hit me yet.

Making it official with a select group tomorrow, then telling my direct manager on Friday.

Wow.

I can't believe I actually pulled this plan off...
Congratulations!

Do you have any plans as to what you're going to do from now on?



665. Post 30719305 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 20, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
Holy shit. I think I'm unofficially retired as of an hour ago.
It hasn't hit me yet.
Making it official with a select group tomorrow, then telling my direct manager on Friday.
Wow.
I can't believe I actually pulled this plan off...
Congratulations!
Do you have any plans as to what you're going to do from now on?

- Catch up on sleep
- Move to Texas
- Play lots of vidya
- Work on writing / recording music
- Work with vocal coach for refining my range
- Lots of reading
- Lots of gym time
- Lots of lounging by the pool, and being sexy pool boy for Big Dicked Ginger Rick while he continues to work for a few years more
- Bitcoin Lightning Network involvement with running a node
- Chillin' wit all you homies in this thread
- Drinking beer
- Travelling the world and building up a library of first-order ambisonic ambient recordings
Sounds like a nice plan. Just making sure I don't have to feel obligated to nag about potential complacency that could ruin your retirement. Seems like you're sorted. Smiley



666. Post 30719355 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
The American right wing conspiratard radio commentator. I don’t know his name but he talks about gay frogs. So he is gay frogs guy.
I believe that would be Alex Jones.

Sounds familiar so probably right.  
Oh the whole call-in thing. That was hilarious. You could really tell that Roger was getting defensive.



667. Post 30722507 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: DefendKebab on February 20, 2018, 11:48:07 PM
There’s no news.  It’s just noise. 

Insiders dump before the news.
Prices went up quite significantly, some retracements are the norm. There's no indication of any insider dumping going on here.



668. Post 30723940 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 21, 2018, 12:24:28 AM
Holy fuck the mem pool will be completely empty in 5 hours at this rate. 
We need to stop this immediately. Bitcorn is supposed to have high fees. Won't anybody think of Roger? Sad

& Slow, too.  Remember?
I'm a Bitcorner, so I'm too slow to remember, member? Sad

Quote from: Elwar on February 21, 2018, 12:31:46 AM
Being retired I find myself needing to justify myself every once in a while when I do absolutely nothing all day.

I'm retired bitches, do you know how many working days I have looked forward to waking up, doing absolutely nothing, taking a nap, getting up and doing absolutely nothing then going to sleep early at night? Some days I do that on principle. Because I can.

Sure I'll eventually get bored of that and do more productive things, but give me my moment here...
Nothing wrong with doing nothing as long as it's not the only thing for years on end. I regularly save some time to do literally nothing for a few hours and sometimes a few days, occasionally including a silent fast. The latter is quite tedious, but it really turns up the enthusiasm about life up to a maximum, comparable to the sense of wonder that one usually experiences as a kid about every little thing.



669. Post 30726442 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 21, 2018, 02:09:50 AM
Right. Will everyone just calm the fuck down. This is getting way too personal.
I am very clam.


Offtopic: Why is Bitcorn dying?



670. Post 30726858 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: infofront on February 21, 2018, 02:27:58 AM
Right. Will everyone just calm the fuck down. This is getting way too personal.
I am very clam.


Offtopic: Why is Bitcorn dying?

The doom winds are blowing. That's all we know.

Hold me.
Time for some scotch.



671. Post 30727812 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 21, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Cliff High Predicts $13,888 by the end of the month, for whatever that's worth.

(not much)


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2QXzZ0a4zZk/UXT9VncYwsI/AAAAAAAACeQ/2h40maQo8xE/s1600/parrot-lust-grips-nation.jpg


Are we like parrots in here... didn't several of us parrots already say, "DDOOOOMM?"


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/0c/0cdc0f385b78a3f4fd62ef0870a5bf4eab54fccf5db7282f42920d473a2df77f.jpg
When dooooom?



672. Post 30771098 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 03:48:03 PM
Is anyone else just fucking DONE with wintry weather? Can't fucking wait till the sailing season starts.
I actually prefer winter over summer. At some point you just run out of layers of clothes to take off and at that point you're still getting fucked by the sun when going outside. I'm so glad humanity has nearly perfected staying home.



673. Post 30771964 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: infofront on February 21, 2018, 04:06:46 PM
Is anyone else just fucking DONE with wintry weather? Can't fucking wait till the sailing season starts.
I actually prefer winter over summer. At some point you just run out of layers of clothes to take off and at that point you're still getting fucked by the sun when going outside. I'm so glad humanity has nearly perfected staying home.

The good thing about hot weather is that it encourages ladies and/or gentlemen, depending on your persuasion, to wear less clothing.
I was on vacation in South Beach a few weeks ago...hot girls in thongs everywhere.  Kiss
I live in a small university city, so you can hardly look anywhere without seeing some skin. But I'm not sure it's really worth it given how tedious it is to be outside in such weather. At least grabbing food and groceries is more interesting I guess.



674. Post 30772447 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?



675. Post 30775983 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 05:01:54 PM
I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?

Vast question.

- climate is whether over 30 years. So it's too soon to tell.
- There was a global warming during the last 100 years of about 0.1°C/10years
- No more warming since 1998, once you remove El Nino/LaNina effects (which cancel each other in time)
- Sun is probably having a period of low activity, that doesn't change much the energy it sends to us, but less activity (= less spots) means less magnetic field, means more cosmic rays reaching our atmosphere, meaning more seeded clouds, thus more albedo and then cold coming in... but this is still a theory
- look here for the latest temps : https://moyhu.blogspot.fr/p/latest-ice-and-temperature-data.html#NCAR
- best site ever for these questions : https://wattsupwiththat.com/

- last but not least : cold kills; warm weather makes our life easier.
Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.
All of science and anything empirical is ultimately a hypothesis. No amount confirmations (that turns things into theories and laws in academia) can guarantee with certainty that we've figured something out, rather than just witnessing an infinitely unlikely event.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if industrialization had an impact on global weather patterns. In chaotic system even the tiniest perturbation can trigger massive macroscopical changes.

However, I'm not quite convinced yet about us having any significant impact either for two reasons. Namely, I haven't studied the papers so I can't possibly know if there are any systematic errors, and I see too much bullshit going on in the media to not be heavily sceptical. I do lean towards human emissions of CO2 causing changes in climate, mostly because I've worked with people who study precisely that, but even if that turned out true I wouldn't be all that worried about it. Capitalism will come to the rescue and figure out a way to keep us nice and cozy regardless of weather conditions. With nuclear fusion pretty much around the corner energy won't be a concern and with that sorted out the overall state of the planet should be irrelevant. Things might change drastically (e.g. underground, on- and/or underwater or shielded off cities with indoor farming), but I don't see humans disappearing unless we nuke ourselves to hell or get wiped out by some rogue asteroid.



676. Post 30776126 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 21, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
Sorry Torgue...I disagree. I alluded to this awhile ago. You can feel the difference in market dynamics compared to pre-2017. Where as before we used to see huge volatility in the hourly charts now the price moves are very methodical. Cushioned is the word I think I used. The sure sign of deep pocket money accumulating on low volume imo.

Well I kinda implied that accumulation may be happening on the dl, but that doesn't mean that we're going to hit a new ATH in a month or two like people are expecting. They could accumulate like this for 6-8 months, hell even a year+. And we might see nothing but a sideways movement with a slight upward drift during that whole time.
I don't really expect any ATH until mid to late summer. Wouldn't really mind it much later either though. The longer BTC stays low the easier it is to collect more, and with prices heading into the 6 to 7 digits I'd prefer stocking up on more coins than having a larger fiat holding a lot earlier.



677. Post 30777463 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 05:24:58 PM
I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?

Vast question.

- climate is whether over 30 years. So it's too soon to tell.
- There was a global warming during the last 100 years of about 0.1°C/10years
- No more warming since 1998, once you remove El Nino/LaNina effects (which cancel each other in time)
- Sun is probably having a period of low activity, that doesn't change much the energy it sends to us, but less activity (= less spots) means less magnetic field, means more cosmic rays reaching our atmosphere, meaning more seeded clouds, thus more albedo and then cold coming in... but this is still a theory
- look here for the latest temps : https://moyhu.blogspot.fr/p/latest-ice-and-temperature-data.html#NCAR
- best site ever for these questions : https://wattsupwiththat.com/

- last but not least : cold kills; warm weather makes our life easier.
Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.
All of science and anything empirical is ultimately a hypothesis. No amount confirmations (that turns things into theories and laws in academia) can guarantee with certainty that we've figured something out, rather than just witnessing an infinitely unlikely event.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if industrialization had an impact on global weather patterns. In chaotic system even the tiniest perturbation can trigger massive macroscopical changes.

However, I'm not quite convinced yet about us having any significant impact either for two reasons. Namely, I haven't studied the papers so I can't possibly know if there are any systematic errors, and I see too much bullshit going on in the media to not be heavily sceptical. I do lean towards human emissions of CO2 causing changes in climate, mostly because I've worked with people who study precisely that, but even if that turned out true I wouldn't be all that worried about it. Capitalism will come to the rescue and figure out a way to keep us nice and cozy regardless of weather conditions. With nuclear fusion pretty much around the corner energy won't be a concern and with that sorted out the overall state of the planet should be irrelevant. Things might change drastically (e.g. underground, on- and/or underwater or shielded off cities with indoor farming), but I don't see humans disappearing unless we nuke ourselves to hell or get wiped out by some rogue asteroid.
We were burning forests way before we burned coal and oil. In fact, any living creature affects the weather. I understand that at least one american state has legislation regarding cow farts.

But more importantly, co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it's plant food. Which is food for everything else. The more co2, the more oxygen, the more life. It might just be a good thing.
I don't deny the possibility of that, since it would make sense. But our ecosystem is way more complex and has more knobs and dials that interact with each other than just CO2 and oxygen.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with population models, but there could very well be a point beyond which everything tips and triggers a reaction in the opposite direction.
E.g. more CO2 = more life, then at some point there's too much CO2 = less life, be it due to primary (an upper limit on how much can be held or used) or due to side effects (effects of increased CO2 on other parts of the ecosystem) of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere.
Humans can easily die from drinking too much water at once, so "more oxygen" might not be an unequivocally good thing either (too much of it would eventually increase the pressure which can be fatal even without any other effects on the ecosystem).



678. Post 30784417 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?

Vast question.

- climate is whether over 30 years. So it's too soon to tell.
- There was a global warming during the last 100 years of about 0.1°C/10years
- No more warming since 1998, once you remove El Nino/LaNina effects (which cancel each other in time)
- Sun is probably having a period of low activity, that doesn't change much the energy it sends to us, but less activity (= less spots) means less magnetic field, means more cosmic rays reaching our atmosphere, meaning more seeded clouds, thus more albedo and then cold coming in... but this is still a theory
- look here for the latest temps : https://moyhu.blogspot.fr/p/latest-ice-and-temperature-data.html#NCAR
- best site ever for these questions : https://wattsupwiththat.com/

- last but not least : cold kills; warm weather makes our life easier.
Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.
All of science and anything empirical is ultimately a hypothesis. No amount confirmations (that turns things into theories and laws in academia) can guarantee with certainty that we've figured something out, rather than just witnessing an infinitely unlikely event.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if industrialization had an impact on global weather patterns. In chaotic system even the tiniest perturbation can trigger massive macroscopical changes.

However, I'm not quite convinced yet about us having any significant impact either for two reasons. Namely, I haven't studied the papers so I can't possibly know if there are any systematic errors, and I see too much bullshit going on in the media to not be heavily sceptical. I do lean towards human emissions of CO2 causing changes in climate, mostly because I've worked with people who study precisely that, but even if that turned out true I wouldn't be all that worried about it. Capitalism will come to the rescue and figure out a way to keep us nice and cozy regardless of weather conditions. With nuclear fusion pretty much around the corner energy won't be a concern and with that sorted out the overall state of the planet should be irrelevant. Things might change drastically (e.g. underground, on- and/or underwater or shielded off cities with indoor farming), but I don't see humans disappearing unless we nuke ourselves to hell or get wiped out by some rogue asteroid.
We were burning forests way before we burned coal and oil. In fact, any living creature affects the weather. I understand that at least one american state has legislation regarding cow farts.

But more importantly, co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it's plant food. Which is food for everything else. The more co2, the more oxygen, the more life. It might just be a good thing.
I don't deny the possibility of that, since it would make sense. But our ecosystem is way more complex and has more knobs and dials that interact with each other than just CO2 and oxygen.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with population models, but there could very well be a point beyond which everything tips and triggers a reaction in the opposite direction.
E.g. more CO2 = more life, then at some point there's too much CO2 = less life, be it due to primary (an upper limit on how much can be held or used) or due to side effects (effects of increased CO2 on other parts of the ecosystem) of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere.
Humans can easily die from drinking too much water at once, so "more oxygen" might not be an unequivocally good thing either (too much of it would eventually increase the pressure which can be fatal even without any other effects on the ecosystem).
You would have to explain how the proposed hypothesis works.
For starters, there isn't enough physical space available to sustain an infinite expansion of trees and whatnot, so eventually there would be surplus of CO2 that could not be turned into further oxygen. And too much CO2 is harmful to humans and animals.
If that was not the case however, and oxygen increased indefinitely, pressure would increase, again due to spatial limitations. That would increase the partial pressure of oxygen, which can lead to oxygen poisoning and by extension to death.

Of course there's still fucktons of space to go around on earth, but there's definitely a limit beyond which things could turn bad very quickly. And that's just the most apparent potential consequences that too much CO2 or O2 could have. Regardless of whether or not these are accurate and what the quantitative thresholds would look like, there are a lot more intricate effects to take into account in a dynamic system that is as closely interlinked as life on earth.



679. Post 30784730 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
too simplistic.
The truth is always simple.

And the truth is that lefties are liars.

If you don't have anything factual, that can be communicated in three sentences or less, that can be checked by anyone with access to google within 30 seconds, it doesn't matter.
Life isn't as simple as checking Google, which you surely understand to be heavily biased for political reasons to begin with. I literally left academia because it wasn't rigorous enough due to the ways that it's funded, and I'm not even talking about the joke that is the social sciences.



680. Post 30784979 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 21, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
too simplistic.
The truth is always simple.

And the truth is that lefties are liars.

If you don't have anything factual, that can be communicated in three sentences or less, that can be checked by anyone with access to google within 30 seconds, it doesn't matter.

you get no argument from me re CO2 level. It might be irrelevant, and most likely is.
However, the rest of my post shows that we DID change this planet already.
This is not a political statement-it is a fact.

This is pretty much my position on the matter. It sucks that politics literally ruins any objective discourse on such issues. Science shouldn't be a matter of politics or government, but unfortunately increasingly is, and getting anything funded that doesn't further some moneygrabbing agenda is virtually impossible these days. Nonetheless, there is no denying that we're fucking over wildlife.



681. Post 30787369 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: vanobe on February 21, 2018, 08:23:49 PM
Guys get the fuck back to discussing price action, some of you are really making a fool out of yourselves. You don't want to be remembered like this.


Suchmoon says it's a bad idea to discuss bitcoin in this thread.



I think it's bad karma to talk about Bitcoin in this thread.
Bitcoin is also considered off-topic in these regions.



682. Post 30789068 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?

Vast question.

- climate is whether over 30 years. So it's too soon to tell.
- There was a global warming during the last 100 years of about 0.1°C/10years
- No more warming since 1998, once you remove El Nino/LaNina effects (which cancel each other in time)
- Sun is probably having a period of low activity, that doesn't change much the energy it sends to us, but less activity (= less spots) means less magnetic field, means more cosmic rays reaching our atmosphere, meaning more seeded clouds, thus more albedo and then cold coming in... but this is still a theory
- look here for the latest temps : https://moyhu.blogspot.fr/p/latest-ice-and-temperature-data.html#NCAR
- best site ever for these questions : https://wattsupwiththat.com/

- last but not least : cold kills; warm weather makes our life easier.
Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.
All of science and anything empirical is ultimately a hypothesis. No amount confirmations (that turns things into theories and laws in academia) can guarantee with certainty that we've figured something out, rather than just witnessing an infinitely unlikely event.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if industrialization had an impact on global weather patterns. In chaotic system even the tiniest perturbation can trigger massive macroscopical changes.

However, I'm not quite convinced yet about us having any significant impact either for two reasons. Namely, I haven't studied the papers so I can't possibly know if there are any systematic errors, and I see too much bullshit going on in the media to not be heavily sceptical. I do lean towards human emissions of CO2 causing changes in climate, mostly because I've worked with people who study precisely that, but even if that turned out true I wouldn't be all that worried about it. Capitalism will come to the rescue and figure out a way to keep us nice and cozy regardless of weather conditions. With nuclear fusion pretty much around the corner energy won't be a concern and with that sorted out the overall state of the planet should be irrelevant. Things might change drastically (e.g. underground, on- and/or underwater or shielded off cities with indoor farming), but I don't see humans disappearing unless we nuke ourselves to hell or get wiped out by some rogue asteroid.
We were burning forests way before we burned coal and oil. In fact, any living creature affects the weather. I understand that at least one american state has legislation regarding cow farts.

But more importantly, co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it's plant food. Which is food for everything else. The more co2, the more oxygen, the more life. It might just be a good thing.
I don't deny the possibility of that, since it would make sense. But our ecosystem is way more complex and has more knobs and dials that interact with each other than just CO2 and oxygen.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with population models, but there could very well be a point beyond which everything tips and triggers a reaction in the opposite direction.
E.g. more CO2 = more life, then at some point there's too much CO2 = less life, be it due to primary (an upper limit on how much can be held or used) or due to side effects (effects of increased CO2 on other parts of the ecosystem) of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere.
Humans can easily die from drinking too much water at once, so "more oxygen" might not be an unequivocally good thing either (too much of it would eventually increase the pressure which can be fatal even without any other effects on the ecosystem).
You would have to explain how the proposed hypothesis works.
For starters, there isn't enough physical space available to sustain an infinite expansion of trees and whatnot, so eventually there would be surplus of CO2 that could not be turned into further oxygen. And too much CO2 is harmful to humans and animals.
If that was not the case however, and oxygen increased indefinitely, pressure would increase, again due to spatial limitations. That would increase the partial pressure of oxygen, which can lead to oxygen poisoning and by extension to death.

Of course there's still fucktons of space to go around on earth, but there's definitely a limit beyond which things could turn bad very quickly. And that's just the most apparent potential consequences that too much CO2 or O2 could have. Regardless of whether or not these are accurate and what the quantitative thresholds would look like, there are a lot more intricate effects to take into account in a dynamic system that is as closely interlinked as life on earth.
Neither of us have numbers, so let's just stick to what is known.

We know that oil and coal are essentially condensed co2. We also know that animals used to be way the fuck bigger, not just dinosaurs but also mammals and insects. It therefore seems reasonable to conclude that not only was there more co2 in the past, but also more oxygen, not just because co2 turns into oxygen but also because higher levels of oxygen are likely to allow for larger animals, as muscles require oxygen to function.

So it seems that the atmosphere was denser in the past. And as co2 is deposited in the underground, it must become less dense over time, which means less able to support life.

So what is better? That we get less oxygen by way of less plants due to less co2, or that we get more?
Like I said, there's a limit. I don't disagree with more oxygen being better, but that can't go on indefinitely. I'm just disputing the overly simplistic stance that more CO2 = more O2 = always good.



683. Post 30789459 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 21, 2018, 08:53:25 PM
so we now play spot the fake news
It's the commies. It's always the commies.

Which also means that the right tells the truth in proportion to how often the left lies. There are exceptions in both camps. CHOOSE WISELY.

The thing is, the alt-right is so full of the most ridiculous mind blowing bullshit on the simplest of subjects, but expects their scientific analysis of climate change to be taken seriously.  They are such a pack of idiots all you can do is laugh.
I find the left more laughable right now. The right has its fair share of idiots, just like literally every single sufficiently large random sample of any population. But there currently is an overwhelming tilt of stupid to the left.

And I agree with quite a few of left principles, such as a UBI and at least some levels of universal health care. But not for the same reasons as the left generally would. I think that being taken care of for free corrupts people into complacency and misery.
But at the same time there's a correlation between violent revolution and extreme levels of income inequality. And while I strongly believe that everybody who has access to the internet gets exactly what they deserve from life, I don't want to eventually have some retards trying to kill me because I've been smart enough to move myself into a future that I'd consider desirable.

I hope that we don't have to even start arguing over the current state of the mainstream media, which is a complete fucking joke and with an obvious left-bias. It's blatantly obvious that they are not trying to argue policies but just making up excuses to attack the right like a cornered animal (the leftist media is the animal).



684. Post 30791471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 09:38:22 PM
Not sure how relevant this is to anything, as I am only now 5 minutes in, but the guy makes fun of swedes and makes a case for chimps being smarter than the average human, so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tdzuHFwbBU

Edit: Do we have any swedes around here? Just out of curiosity.
Google the IQ of Koko the Gorilla and then Google the average IQ in the Congo.



685. Post 30791974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2018, 09:51:11 PM
Not sure how relevant this is to anything, as I am only now 5 minutes in, but the guy makes fun of swedes and makes a case for chimps being smarter than the average human, so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tdzuHFwbBU

Edit: Do we have any swedes around here? Just out of curiosity.
Google the IQ of Koko the Gorilla and then Google the average IQ in the Congo.
I know. There are places in africa where people have an IQ of... fucking 60... Harambe died for our sins!
I would've guessed 80ish. When I actually found out I couldn't stop laughing for a few minutes.



686. Post 30794866 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: suchmoon on February 21, 2018, 11:02:23 PM
Right. But you strongly support having the largest military budget is the world by an order of magnitude yeah?

I'm against any standing army.  
I'm not even american, but its 2nd amendment is the last hope to not end all in a planetary gulag.

The US Government has already regulated arms to such an extent that the citizens have only a glimmer of hope. How are some semi-automatic weapons going to fare against the full weaponry of the US Military? The only hope is that the citizens become well organized and are able to train a large militia. I'm not confident that is realistic. How would we train mass amounts of people without the federal government taking notice and crushing it?

This isn't gonna work unless we allow recreational use of tanks and nukes.
Nothing over blasting some recreational nukes on NYE.



687. Post 30797422 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: explorer on February 22, 2018, 12:29:44 AM
I'll just leave this here



Which squares represent fat banksters? 
Half of the human ones are the BIS dude.



688. Post 30797769 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Tzupy on February 22, 2018, 12:43:31 AM
Exchange incompetence reaches a new level in Japan...
https://www.coindesk.com/customer-tries-to-withdraw-20-trillion-in-crypto-exchange-glitch/
Wonder if he would've managed to withdraw if he didn't go for such absurd sums.



689. Post 30799587 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 22, 2018, 01:57:26 AM
Wonder if he would've managed to withdraw if he didn't go for such absurd sums.

 It really does sound absurd.  Let's look at it - $20,000,000,000,000 worth of Bitcoin (at least that's the story)

I know offtopic posts are frowned upon here, and some topics are more off than other, but I'll risk it.

Have you heard about cryptocurrencies? Well there's this nifty thing called bitcoin, it's my favorite.
It's holding 10.5 k-ish.

 If we divide the current value into the exchange glitch number we get

 ~1,904,761,904 Bitcoins?

 #Helluvaglitch!

The first Bitcoin Billionaire, then there was a solar flare.



690. Post 30799710 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 22, 2018, 02:02:50 AM

 If we divide the current value into the exchange glitch number we get

 ~1,904,761,904 Bitcoins?

 #Helluvaglitch!


I wonder what would have happened if he simply purchased close to his daily withdrawal max, then tried to withdraw.
The poor bastard might have pulled it off, lol
Which only leaves one of two conclusions. Either he was being an honest guy and just wanted to provide us all with some lulz. Or he's too much of a moron to exploit and cheat. I'm hoping for the former, but given the average forum user I would probably have to put my money on the latter.



691. Post 30801593 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Looks like the badger might've sobered up already.



692. Post 30850480 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 22, 2018, 05:51:20 PM
On another note:

You know the world is going to shit when one rich tech billionaire is spending $42M to build a 10,000 year mechanical clock and bury it under a mountain, while another rich tech billionaire cannot tell you the current price of common goods found in a grocery store.  Roll Eyes

Seriously, fk those guys and their shitty tech.  Angry
What do you mean? Aren't you supposed to by up entire super markets for great deals on your food?



693. Post 30851098 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 22, 2018, 06:15:18 PM
I do not believe the clock is publicly funded.

If money printing presses send money to Central Banks, and CBs buy Amazon stocks, and Jeff Bezos uses that investment money to fund the clock, then....

yes it is. The public is paying for it one way or another.
That can only be partially true, as in whatever percentage of equity is owned by CBs was the percentage of the clock funded by the public. If you tried to argue otherwise you'd imply the argument that everything that has ever been paid for with any of the (fiat) money in circulation was funded by the public.



694. Post 30852600 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 22, 2018, 06:28:36 PM
I do not believe the clock is publicly funded.

If money printing presses send money to Central Banks, and CBs buy Amazon stocks, and Jeff Bezos uses that investment money to fund the clock, then....

yes it is. The public is paying for it one way or another.
That can only be partially true, as in whatever percentage of equity is owned by CBs was the percentage of the clock funded by the public. If you tried to argue otherwise you'd imply the argument that everything that has ever been paid for with any of the (fiat) money in circulation was funded by the public.

It's more the timing of it than the actual thing itself. Our world economies are going down the shitter, our nation debts are soaring, wages haven't budged in a decade, they're still printing money by the billions per month, and inflation is settling in... all whist billionaires are erecting needless or inane monuments. Sounds like the years leading up to the fall of empires.

Actually, I'm more annoyed by the fact that Bill Gates doesn't fkn know the going price of bananas. They are so out of touch with reality it isn't even funny.
I can get behind the first point, but the grocery prices thing?

I don't know the going prices of groceries and I still buy my own. The only thing that matters to me when grocery shopping is what I'd like to eat, not the prices (obscene restaurants and kobe beef aside). I'd be surprised if anybody who doesn't live around the poverty line would know prices, and that would only be because they are forced to budget or perish.

At some point groceries become such a small portion of income that it's just not worth the time to think about it.

And a little bit later you can afford somebody to do the shopping for you, so why would you invest time and focus on something if you can create more value by directing yourself elsewhere?



695. Post 30852721 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on February 22, 2018, 06:41:47 PM
all whist billionaires are erecting needless or inane monuments. Sounds like the years leading up to the fall of empires.

Actually, I'm more annoyed by the fact that Bill Gates doesn't fkn know the going price of bananas. They are so out of touch with reality it isn't even funny.

While I don't care how billionaires waste their own money, I think that empires collapse because of things like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/7zawb5/why_are_the_taxpayerfunded_salaries_of_a/

Now this is what pisses me the fuck off.



696. Post 30853086 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: snakey on February 22, 2018, 06:53:19 PM
Seems like we are now tipping towards all time low.
Rip my investments..rip my salary which i got 7 days late and got it converted in btc.
I would probably whore myself out if we went to all time lows and buy up half the supply.



697. Post 30867012 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: bones261 on February 23, 2018, 12:41:27 AM
I'm not sure if I should pull some of my top bids and hope for lower.  Roll Eyes I want to get a good price, but I don't want to try catching falling knives either. Perhaps I should just pull all my bids. There is a superstition that one should never gamble on their birthday. Although, it is not quite my birthday in my part of the world, yet. However, it is Friday for most of the world now.
Never heard of that one. Happy birthday!



698. Post 30867046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 23, 2018, 12:45:06 AM
Here we go again next stop 9k

Like I said, I'm buying drinks for the thread if we see it touch the $8k's again this year.

Too much resistance down to $9k.

I don't see it happening.

Beer-filled gut-bacteria tells me things will even out around $9.5k before resuming upward momentum.
Below 9,000$ is still possible, there are 2 scenarios I see on Bitcoin going down. The first scenario is Bitcoin will for a right shoulder with its lowest price at 9,200$, the 2nd scenario is 9,200$ is broken and it will continue to what people are calling the real 5th wave which is around the 4,500$ level. Right now I am just observing the prices as my money is still in Fiat so I am comfortable to what is happening to Bitcoin. Hopefully this will be the last dip of the year as I know a lot of people have stacked up their position by now.


I understand that if the price breaks below $9,200, then you are going to wait to buy in the $4,500 price arena, maybe you would buy above $5k, just to be safe, right?

On the other hand, if the price does not break below $9,200, then at what point would you get back in, if at all?


By the way, you may have already seen my posts on this topic, and personally I doubt that breaking below $9k is going to give you clear sailing down to $4,500 or points just above that because there seem to be pretty decent odds that there is going to be decent support at $8k and $7k... so you gotta get past that support first, in my humble bumble opinion.
We stopped in the $6,100 range the last time around too, so you're definitely right about the additional supports below $9,200.



699. Post 30911511 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 23, 2018, 06:40:09 AM
So, pee pare ur selfie for either direction, including DOOM..... but not necessarily gonna happen.

Give us something to work with BMB.... What be happening with uie?

My BTC to cash ratio is about the same as yours, give or take. But I'm obviously not as serene about it as you are.


Maybe some zen meditation is in order?

I mean really dude (or dudette).  We already had our selfies a 70% price correction, and where is the bad news, exactly?

It could be the case that the implosion of various alts are kind of dragging down BTC, but we actually have clear paths ahead for segwit and lightning, and look at those transaction fees and times, low as fuck (just showing that the long-ass spamming attack had been clogging up blockchain matters for quite a long time)...

Anyhow, BTC fundamentals seem to be doing quite good, so I don't see why any HODLer should be freaking the fuck out regarding the "normal" ups and down of bitcoin.

Recall that an aspect of bitcoin that it the most easily counted upon would be its volatility.  In other words, we do not have any guarantees of either UP or DOWN, but we have as close as we could get guarantee to volatility. 

So hang onto your panties (and all the pants you commandeered), and we should be able to make it through these trying (but seemingly expected) BTC volatility times.   Kiss
I would argue that BTC fundamentals are better than ever. The fact that we didn't go back to last year's initial price yet despite China type bans and all the FUD means that the biggest hodlers understand that governments and CBs have already lost the battle. It's just a matter of acting out the play for the masses now.

And from a technological perspective we're obviously much better off than we have been just a year ago as well, so any and every reason that people would've had for selling off (other than panic sales) has already been shown to be irrelevant for the future of Bitcorns.



700. Post 30911699 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Starving_Marvin on February 23, 2018, 07:03:18 AM
Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men.
Couldn't put Humpty together again.


This got me some instant flashbacks to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ12X3_7JAA



701. Post 30912103 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 03:57:26 PM
I'm gonna buy a robot mop. I like gadgets, having money to waste on toys is fun.

Wait long enough and you can just buy the whole robot.  Robo-maid?
Dude I can't wait until we have functional humanoid robots to help around the house. Screw sex dolls, it's utility that really counts.
Humanoid Gordon Ramsay. Those will be the days. I'd take a robo maid as long as it looks realistic though.



702. Post 30913590 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Torque on February 23, 2018, 04:04:50 PM
I'm gonna buy a robot mop. I like gadgets, having money to waste on toys is fun.

Wait long enough and you can just buy the whole robot.  Robo-maid?
Dude I can't wait until we have functional humanoid robots to help around the house. Screw sex dolls, it's utility that really counts.
Humanoid Gordon Ramsay. Those will be the days. I'd take a robo maid as long as it looks realistic though.

Android Gordon Ramsay with your kitchen knives!?!?

Oh hell no.
Oh hell yeah. Good food is worth taking some risks.



703. Post 30913816 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Jacques_Bittard on February 23, 2018, 04:17:57 PM
You praise the blockchain technology in general Smiley Bitcoin doesn't equal the blockchain technology. I see that the blockchain technology isn't dependent on bitcoin and bitcoin value isn't guaranteed by the blockchain technology.

This is a glaring fundamental error.  Blockchain, and what makes it truly revolutionary cannot be separated from the token.  In the case of Bitcoin we are talking about the premier token on the premier blockchain.  They are inseparable.  Blockchain is useless without bitcoin.  You cannot have one without the other without losing the goodness of the entire thing.

You will lose sober minded people with phrases like "premier blockchain" that only means something in ones personal reality.
I've had a lot of fun with the blockchain technology that isn't built on bitcoin tokens and I will continue to do so. But I think that right now, I'm about done here. My post is deleted, most of the people here have already ignored me and the rest are trying to dress their gibberish as technical argumentation. This is like trying to argue that the world is older then 6000 years in some radical Christian forum. Enjoy your echo chamber and the well deserved prize that comes with it in the future.
Bitcorn isn't all about the underlying technology. One crucial factor of what makes it relevant at all is the decentralization aspect. And you don't really get that with Ether, and not at all with Ripple. The same factor requires adoption, and right now even banks (the main target of XRP) don't give a flying fuck about Ripple (the coin).



704. Post 30917750 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: cofefeGandalf on February 23, 2018, 05:22:37 PM

From that time I have earned a lot more then I did with bitcoin mainly with XRP, ETH and lately also EOS. For me, bitcoin is for bartenders and cab drivers who react on technical developments with a several year delay.

What are the technical developments of XRP, ETH, and EOS that surpass Bitcoin? It would be nice to know now, rather than a year from now.



XRP is good for making fast and cheap transactions. Scales better than bitcoin. Far from decentralized, but it gets the job done if you are in a hurry.
[snip]

Paypal is good for making fast and cheap transactions. Scales better than bitcoin. Far from decentralized, but it gets the job done if you are in a hurry.

XRP is a joke.
Paypal is pretty expensive...



705. Post 30920149 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: infofront on February 23, 2018, 05:57:19 PM

Dude I can't wait until we have functional humanoid robots to help around the house. Screw sex dolls, it's utility that really counts.

That's their purpose, isn't it ?
Re: SExiness: Heard some stories about brothels starting to use sex dolls. Apparently they are more popular than the actual prostitutes.

yep : somewhat frightening ...
https://www.rt.com/uk/413762-sex-love-robot-conference/
https://www.rt.com/news/417645-sex-doll-brothel-france/



When can I trade in my wife for one?
Once they're capable of producing a sandwhich I would guess.



706. Post 30920914 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 23, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
What price to buy BTC - buying time  Cool

1. 0.5 fib retrace
2. identified support/resistance levels
3. Middle Bollinger Band

-snip-

Simple but has elegance. Traits of all the finer things in life.
I expect a retest of the 10.8k resistance line. This weekend will provide volatility and strong hands buying the dips will profit nicely.
WOsMerits for those that deserve them..you know who you are.
Carry on.

When can I trade in my wife for one?

Huge industry...ever heard of "pillownauts".  Even more on point is the movie "Her" where they rent another body so the AI has a "sleeve". Sadly this will trend higher as technology enables remote interactions via robotics.
One could easily argue the benefits of that development.
It could reduce shallow relationships that only serve to release some "pressure" and thus foster for more in-depth interactions with actual humans. That could reduce the amount of people that are immature in just about every aspect before throwing themselves into a marriage or having children, which could produce more balanced humans in the long run.

It could also potentially lead to people spending more time on picking up skills and hobbies as they won't be clogged up with superficial relationships that merely resulted from their sex drive.

Of course there's a shadow side as well, but it's not all as bleak as some people like to make it out to be. Smiley



707. Post 30923365 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: bones261 on February 23, 2018, 06:44:38 PM
Well, it's obvious people here never read the Santanic Bible. One of the LeVay cult's missions was to develop sex robots. Angry
Rick and Morty type sex bots or just recreational sex bots?

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 23, 2018, 06:43:35 PM
...but it's not all as bleak as some people like to make it out to be. Smiley

No, it is not..as with most things it all depends on where you are taking in the view from. I for one think the future is very bright indeed.
Yeah, even with all the bullshit going on right now it seems like the conflicts are getting less and less severe. They may (or may not; haven't lived in the past so I wouldn't know) be more prominent in public consciousness thanks to the internet. But e.g. social just retards aren't exactly a problem. They're at best entertaining and at worst a slight and temporary nuisance. They don't have the brainpower to see their agenda through and if they actually tried anything too severe they would just get floored so rapidly that they wouldn't even see it coming.

Meanwhile the loud and poor people in the west live better lives than kings of the past.



708. Post 30923529 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: vanobe on February 23, 2018, 06:56:47 PM

For perhaps the first time in history we have the opportunity to form mature, discretionary and fully consensual relationships not based on fear.

There are new fears arising, like what if your wife wants your bitcoins during a divorce.

https://www.coindesk.com/divorcee-hide-assets-bitcoins/
Got hacked. Lost keys.

Or just don't disclose your personal assets.

I wouldn't get married without a contract that exempted me from any form of alimonies. I would still make sure that she wouldn't have any financial problems (unless she cheated), but only if it was my free choice.



709. Post 30924561 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: bones261 on February 23, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Well, it's obvious people here never read the Santanic Bible. One of the LeVay cult's missions was to develop sex robots. Angry
Rick and Morty type sex bots or just recreational sex bots?


More so something that is totally servile and also does a good job being a mimic for an actual human being.
In that case, hail Satan. Roll Eyes



710. Post 30925645 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Just gonna leave this here.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/23/bank-of-america-worried-about-threat-of-cryptocurrency-to-its-business.html



711. Post 30927044 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 08:01:33 PM

For perhaps the first time in history we have the opportunity to form mature, discretionary and fully consensual relationships not based on fear.

There are new fears arising, like what if your wife wants your bitcoins during a divorce.

https://www.coindesk.com/divorcee-hide-assets-bitcoins/
Got hacked. Lost keys.

Or just don't disclose your personal assets.

I wouldn't get married without a contract that exempted me from any form of alimonies. I would still make sure that she wouldn't have any financial problems (unless she cheated), but only if it was my free choice.
Don't get married in the states period. No prenup or anything else will protect you in divorce.
Yet another reason for me to stay clear of the States.

I just hope that I won't end up running into problems if I ever feel like starting some businesses that require state of the art talent. That's the one thing that the US excels at providing.



712. Post 30927157 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 08:08:28 PM
In other news, don't heat a pizza in the microwave. Even if it says on the package that you can do it. Damn thing is all soggy and limp.
I hate microwaves with a passion. Food is one of the few things where I'd never cut corners.



713. Post 30927808 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 23, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
I just hope that I won't end up running into problems if I ever feel like starting some businesses that require state of the art talent. That's the one thing that the US excels at providing.
depressing if true. expound on talent?
The US is a hub for the global market of high-end employees. Although that status might slowly errode with all the horseshit that is going down in e.g. Silicon Valley right now.



714. Post 30927876 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 08:16:37 PM
In other news, don't heat a pizza in the microwave. Even if it says on the package that you can do it. Damn thing is all soggy and limp.
I hate microwaves with a passion. Food is one of the few things where I'd never cut corners.
It works great for thai boxes, but that's just about the only thing it does work for. Don't use it for anything else.
I prefer cooking myself anyways, so I have no need for a microwave (haven't owned one in over a decade). And whenever I'm too lazy I just go to a restaurant or order something.



715. Post 30931195 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 09:24:43 PM
I just married a sexy, subservient Asian woman. She's an amazing cook and housewife in general.
Would recommend.
Are you in asia?

I imported one here to the US from the Philippines.
I agree that it's pretty stupid to get married here, but at least my crypto stash is protected.

off topic: how exactly did this event come about (in a land of large swedish women who may pluck me under their arm and run away with me...shudder)


I got tired of all the American sluts I had been dating, yet I was ready to settle down, etc. I went looking online for a woman who would be a suitable wife, and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.
Not gonna last. It's the culture that determines how women act more than their own personality, such as it is. And your crypto is only as protected as your willingness to go to jail.
Your crypto is as protected as your willingness to protect it. If nobody knows about parts of your stash nobody will think of coming for it.



716. Post 30932436 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 09:36:44 PM
I just married a sexy, subservient Asian woman. She's an amazing cook and housewife in general.
Would recommend.
Are you in asia?

I imported one here to the US from the Philippines.
I agree that it's pretty stupid to get married here, but at least my crypto stash is protected.

off topic: how exactly did this event come about (in a land of large swedish women who may pluck me under their arm and run away with me...shudder)


I got tired of all the American sluts I had been dating, yet I was ready to settle down, etc. I went looking online for a woman who would be a suitable wife, and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.
Not gonna last. It's the culture that determines how women act more than their own personality, such as it is. And your crypto is only as protected as your willingness to go to jail.
Your crypto is as protected as your willingness to protect it. If nobody knows about parts of your stash nobody will think of coming for it.
Also means you can't freely spend it.

States always drift towards more control, never less. And all bitcoin transactions are public, forever. Better to be completely above board.
Crypto is highly volatile, so it's very easy to lose a significant amount of Bitcorns. Wink

And then there's tumbling, Changelly types of services, and privacy coins.



717. Post 30933119 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 10:15:11 PM
I just married a sexy, subservient Asian woman. She's an amazing cook and housewife in general.
Would recommend.
Are you in asia?

I imported one here to the US from the Philippines.
I agree that it's pretty stupid to get married here, but at least my crypto stash is protected.

off topic: how exactly did this event come about (in a land of large swedish women who may pluck me under their arm and run away with me...shudder)


I got tired of all the American sluts I had been dating, yet I was ready to settle down, etc. I went looking online for a woman who would be a suitable wife, and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.
Not gonna last. It's the culture that determines how women act more than their own personality, such as it is. And your crypto is only as protected as your willingness to go to jail.
Your crypto is as protected as your willingness to protect it. If nobody knows about parts of your stash nobody will think of coming for it.
Also means you can't freely spend it.

States always drift towards more control, never less. And all bitcoin transactions are public, forever. Better to be completely above board.
Crypto is highly volatile, so it's very easy to lose a significant amount of Bitcorns. Wink

And then there's tumbling, Changelly types of services, and privacy coins.
All of which can be tracked with enough effort. And they would rather spend money on it, even at a loss, just out of spite. Lefties like to control people. Even your comment here could be used as justification to throw you in jail.
No it could not. I have neither implied nor admitted to any criminal offence, so even if I had done something illegal (which I have not) there would be no basis for any prosecution or even hearing based on my post. You can't jail people for discussing possibilities (in the west), at least not without serious repercussions.

And if you know what you're doing you can cover up your traces just fine. It would take some effort, but if you really wanted to hide something you could.



718. Post 30933317 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 23, 2018, 10:13:55 PM
So, pee pare ur selfie for either direction, including DOOM..... but not necessarily gonna happen.

Give us something to work with BMB.... What be happening with uie?

My BTC to cash ratio is about the same as yours, give or take. But I'm obviously not as serene about it as you are.


Maybe some zen meditation is in order?

I mean really dude (or dudette).  We already had our selfies a 70% price correction, and where is the bad news, exactly?

It could be the case that the implosion of various alts are kind of dragging down BTC, but we actually have clear paths ahead for segwit and lightning, and look at those transaction fees and times, low as fuck (just showing that the long-ass spamming attack had been clogging up blockchain matters for quite a long time)...

Anyhow, BTC fundamentals seem to be doing quite good, so I don't see why any HODLer should be freaking the fuck out regarding the "normal" ups and down of bitcoin.

Recall that an aspect of bitcoin that it the most easily counted upon would be its volatility.  In other words, we do not have any guarantees of either UP or DOWN, but we have as close as we could get guarantee to volatility.  

So hang onto your panties (and all the pants you commandeered), and we should be able to make it through these trying (but seemingly expected) BTC volatility times.   Kiss
I would argue that BTC fundamentals are better than ever. The fact that we didn't go back to last year's initial price yet despite China type bans and all the FUD means that the biggest hodlers understand that governments and CBs have already lost the battle. It's just a matter of acting out the play for the masses now.

And from a technological perspective we're obviously much better off than we have been just a year ago as well, so any and every reason that people would've had for selling off (other than panic sales) has already been shown to be irrelevant for the future of Bitcorns.

I agree.  You said it much more forcefully than me (and still accurately) regarding BTC fundamentals being strong, including the fact that there had been decently sized attacks throughout 2017 - while the price kept rising, and even the beginning of the August 2017 forking attacks and the possible confusion from that including the decently funded campaigns to mislead newbies concerning the real bitcoin... and even if there remain newbies to mislead, there is a sufficient amount of smart money and even newbies who are not getting tricked by the misleading information - causing ongoing upwards price pressure strength in BTC - even if the short term does not prove to be BTC price bullish.
I'm really enjoying the current Bitcorn prices. It's fairly easy to increase holdings while Bitcorns are cheap and altcorns are inefficient and stupid (and hence predictable) as hell. While I suck at trading technicals, it's very easy to make predictions based on fundamentals and longer term trends (of several months) in the altcorn market. It takes quite some time and discipline, but it's anything but difficult if you know how scammers, morons and idealistic but highly naive people think and have at least some basic understanding of economics.



719. Post 30933438 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 10:25:47 PM
I just married a sexy, subservient Asian woman. She's an amazing cook and housewife in general.
Would recommend.
Are you in asia?

I imported one here to the US from the Philippines.
I agree that it's pretty stupid to get married here, but at least my crypto stash is protected.

off topic: how exactly did this event come about (in a land of large swedish women who may pluck me under their arm and run away with me...shudder)


I got tired of all the American sluts I had been dating, yet I was ready to settle down, etc. I went looking online for a woman who would be a suitable wife, and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.
Not gonna last. It's the culture that determines how women act more than their own personality, such as it is. And your crypto is only as protected as your willingness to go to jail.
Your crypto is as protected as your willingness to protect it. If nobody knows about parts of your stash nobody will think of coming for it.
Also means you can't freely spend it.

States always drift towards more control, never less. And all bitcoin transactions are public, forever. Better to be completely above board.
Crypto is highly volatile, so it's very easy to lose a significant amount of Bitcorns. Wink

And then there's tumbling, Changelly types of services, and privacy coins.
All of which can be tracked with enough effort. And they would rather spend money on it, even at a loss, just out of spite. Lefties like to control people. Even your comment here could be used as justification to throw you in jail.
No it could not. I have neither implied nor admitted to any criminal offence, so even if I had done something illegal (which I have not) there would be no basis for any prosecution or even hearing based on my post. You can't jail people for discussing possibilities (in the west), at least not without serious repercussions.

And if you know what you're doing you can cover up your traces just fine. It would take some effort, but if you really wanted to hide something you could.
You don't understand lefties well enough. They don't care about what you have actually said or done, or what can be proven. Only about narrative.

You know how to hide digital money and have expressed something that could be construed as a willingness to do so, to anyone who would want to do so. That is more than enough. Don't even need the last part. Simply the admitted knowledge of how to do it is plenty.
You're talking about jailing people here. No matter what retarded kind of narrative someone might come up with, there's basic rules in the justice system that have to be followed. Your assessment is completely false as far as the west is concerned.
Every single researcher of cryptography will be able to tell you how to hide your funds from anybody in the world. Doesn't mean they can be jailed for that knowledge.

Can they try to dox you and tarnish your public image? Sure. They have been doing this successfully. But going to jail is a whole different story.



720. Post 30933469 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 10:29:13 PM

Dude I can't wait until we have functional humanoid robots to help around the house. Screw sex dolls, it's utility that really counts.

That's their purpose, isn't it ?

 Some people use sex dolls to allow them use the car-pool lanes.




I don't see how that is a doll.  Sure, she might have pale skin, and sure she might have a really great figure (maybe a bit much on the tits), but doesn't look like no doll to me.
Yeah she's real. Look at the eyes. Couple veins visible too. But a doll will still look the same in another ten years.
Likely, but hopefully without such ridiculous milk jugs.



721. Post 30935648 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 23, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
I just married a sexy, subservient Asian woman. She's an amazing cook and housewife in general.
Would recommend.
Are you in asia?

I imported one here to the US from the Philippines.
I agree that it's pretty stupid to get married here, but at least my crypto stash is protected.

off topic: how exactly did this event come about (in a land of large swedish women who may pluck me under their arm and run away with me...shudder)


I got tired of all the American sluts I had been dating, yet I was ready to settle down, etc. I went looking online for a woman who would be a suitable wife, and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.

+1
Sluts can be difficult. Angry
More importantly, they're fucking annoying. I just can't justify risking my sanity to pork some pretty dumbass. If the girl can't hold a conversation and only cares about shopping or other similarly mundane and boring bullshit she can piss right off.



722. Post 30935665 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 10:54:09 PM
Okay, off topic of the off topic, but this shit is funny: https://imgur.com/r/funny/4ia57tv

Would totally go have an ice cream in that shop.
Is your IQ high enough to open the door?



723. Post 30935732 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: gentlemand on February 23, 2018, 11:32:07 PM
I believe you have to buy them that way?

But I presume they're rather like those chilled crabs you buy in Japanese vending machines. Once they're out of their packaging all bets are off.
I've lived in Japan for a while and I've never come across a chilled crab machine. Where can you find those? Hokkaido?



724. Post 30935946 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 11:35:24 PM
Okay, off topic of the off topic, but this shit is funny: https://imgur.com/r/funny/4ia57tv

Would totally go have an ice cream in that shop.
Is your IQ high enough to open the door?
Woah wait, you don't like Rick & Morty?
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/6qhaln/only_high_iqs_watch_rick_and_morty/



725. Post 30936258 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 23, 2018, 11:40:20 PM
So, pee pare ur selfie for either direction, including DOOM..... but not necessarily gonna happen.

Give us something to work with BMB.... What be happening with uie?

My BTC to cash ratio is about the same as yours, give or take. But I'm obviously not as serene about it as you are.


Maybe some zen meditation is in order?

I mean really dude (or dudette).  We already had our selfies a 70% price correction, and where is the bad news, exactly?

It could be the case that the implosion of various alts are kind of dragging down BTC, but we actually have clear paths ahead for segwit and lightning, and look at those transaction fees and times, low as fuck (just showing that the long-ass spamming attack had been clogging up blockchain matters for quite a long time)...

Anyhow, BTC fundamentals seem to be doing quite good, so I don't see why any HODLer should be freaking the fuck out regarding the "normal" ups and down of bitcoin.

Recall that an aspect of bitcoin that it the most easily counted upon would be its volatility.  In other words, we do not have any guarantees of either UP or DOWN, but we have as close as we could get guarantee to volatility.  

So hang onto your panties (and all the pants you commandeered), and we should be able to make it through these trying (but seemingly expected) BTC volatility times.   Kiss
I would argue that BTC fundamentals are better than ever. The fact that we didn't go back to last year's initial price yet despite China type bans and all the FUD means that the biggest hodlers understand that governments and CBs have already lost the battle. It's just a matter of acting out the play for the masses now.

And from a technological perspective we're obviously much better off than we have been just a year ago as well, so any and every reason that people would've had for selling off (other than panic sales) has already been shown to be irrelevant for the future of Bitcorns.

I agree.  You said it much more forcefully than me (and still accurately) regarding BTC fundamentals being strong, including the fact that there had been decently sized attacks throughout 2017 - while the price kept rising, and even the beginning of the August 2017 forking attacks and the possible confusion from that including the decently funded campaigns to mislead newbies concerning the real bitcoin... and even if there remain newbies to mislead, there is a sufficient amount of smart money and even newbies who are not getting tricked by the misleading information - causing ongoing upwards price pressure strength in BTC - even if the short term does not prove to be BTC price bullish.
I'm really enjoying the current Bitcorn prices. It's fairly easy to increase holdings while Bitcorns are cheap and altcorns are inefficient and stupid (and hence predictable) as hell. While I suck at trading technicals, it's very easy to make predictions based on fundamentals and longer term trends (of several months) in the altcorn market. It takes quite some time and discipline, but it's anything but difficult if you know how scammers, morons and idealistic but highly naive people think and have at least some basic understanding of economics.

I'm not sure whether we are on a similar page here, but I personally think that altcoins and ICOs could be pumped and dumped for several more years - maybe even 5 years or more, so bitcoin may or may not prevail in those kinds of short to medium term pricing battles - even though in the longer term, bitcoin's fundamentals remain the strongest and are likely going to continue to be the strongest because the building upon the  BTC fundamentals are not deviating, and in that regard, bitcoin remains the best investment when considering both upside and downside risk - especially as compared to any alts and any of the various ongoing attempts at snake-oil salesmanship - even though I would not be surprised if some other coins may outperform Bitcoin in a variety of pricing ways in the short or medium term - even while relatively lacking in various BTC POW and decentralized immutability fundamentals.
The way I see it is that with lower Bitcorn unit prices it will be easier to accumulate Bitcorns, since the same quantities will push smaller volumes.

My current goal is maximizing my Bitcorn holdings with no regard for USD valuations.

I fully expect altcoins to last not just 5 years, but for decades at bare minimum.
Beyond that is difficult to estimate due to singularity type events being increasingly likely.

But either way, if Bitcorn went to $100k or even 1000k it would be much more difficult to increase your Bitcorn holdings by more than a few dozen Bitcorns without having to identify dozens of high quality altcorns. Meanwhile, in current markets it's very easy to gain a hundred or so extra Bitcorns within a span of a year by just throwing them around almost randomly. And while that's "just" a few hundred to few thousand grands right now, that would eventually be tens to hundreds of millions a decade or so from now as Bitcorn appreciates toward its true potential. That's why I very much like seeing Bitcorn not exploding any more than it has right now.



726. Post 30936522 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2018, 11:42:31 PM
and ended up looking specifically at Asian women.
there was a thread for that remember? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105136.0 Let's talk about how hot Asian girls are. [NSFW]
It's not even that asians are especially hot. It's just that they are not fat.

Yeah you fucks are welcome, now you know what's wrong with our part of the world.
Asian girls are pretty much a binary thing in my opinion. Either meh, or really great looking. There's very little in between.

I very much prefer the natural/cute look though, such as seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105136.msg1151576#msg1151576

Can't fucking stand clown faces that have been doused in make up.



727. Post 30936592 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 23, 2018, 11:55:12 PM
If I were a woman, I would run away from this thread ... and fast.


That's why you gotta grow some balls (figuratively), and stop being so sensitive to reasonable real world discussions.    Roll Eyes


Me too.    Tongue
Pretty sure any woman worth her salt would either join in on these discussions or at the very least not mind. The ones that get offended are brats.



728. Post 30936714 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2018, 12:00:32 AM
New fangled trading strategy update: Buys and sells $500 apart, a dash of mindfulness, and some whiskey.
Let's do this thing. Cool
Not sure if you responded last time and I've missed it or not. So here we go again.

What's your favourite dram?



729. Post 30936802 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: gentlemand on February 23, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
I've lived in Japan for a while and I've never come across a chilled crab machine. Where can you find those? Hokkaido?

I guess you'll have to ask around - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGH6hWth6Vo

Maybe they're out of fashion now.
I hope so. That's pretty fucked up, I didn't think they'd be alive.



730. Post 30936974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 24, 2018, 12:10:39 AM
I've lived in Japan for a while and I've never come across a chilled crab machine. Where can you find those? Hokkaido?

I guess you'll have to ask around - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGH6hWth6Vo

Maybe they're out of fashion now.
I hope so. That's pretty fucked up, I didn't think they'd be alive.
Meh. Fresh seafood is best seafood.

In Thailand the average restaurant has tiger shrimps and crabs and fish out front. They are pretty lively early in the morning, not so much in the evening. Especially the ones that have already been cooked, served and eaten.

Where do you think your burger comes from?
From an actual farm.



731. Post 30999133 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 24, 2018, 06:34:15 PM
entertain me you dorks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoJo81lujk

Here, you animal.
I can't believe I haven't seen that yet. Whenever I feel like I've become a conoisseur of the classics reality quickly comes around to sling some poop at me.



732. Post 31057360 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Gab0 on February 25, 2018, 04:10:15 PM
I very much agree with Ibian, Itod and Conspirosphere.tk.

Mining must be decentralized through competition, through research into the use of renewable energies, research into more efficient and economic technologies, through innovation, etc. Go fuck all the Keynesians who think it's a good idea to change the PoW without a real threat. For that they have altcoins or even Bitcoin Gold. If you consider a PoS as a possibility, for that you have ethereum and hundreds of other tokens.
I personally hold the position that people should consume much more energy and be much more wasteful than they are now.

If that really drove climate warming, natural disaster or resource shortage, the industry and governments would be forced to reallocate as many resources as possible into researching nuclear fusion and other alternative with utmost urgency.



733. Post 31064548 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 08:04:24 PM
And not a damn thing we can actually DO about it. Self-correcting problem eventually, but until then it will only get worse.
At least they're trying quite hard to fuck themselves these days by completely ignoring the will and voices of citizens. And Bitcorns arrived pretty much just in time for the next big crisis as well. With the US shitting dollars and European banks drowning in toxic loans all on top of all the other nonsense we might actually see some exciting changes quite soon.

Also fuck Canada. Despite their SJW retards I was considering moving there due to comparatively low CG tax rates and what I thought to be low income and corporate tax rates (by European standards). But it turned out that the tax calculator didn't include federal income tax, which bumped it up to near 50%. Fuck that noise.



734. Post 31068058 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 25, 2018, 08:19:14 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.



735. Post 31069088 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 25, 2018, 09:18:34 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.

Quote
If you see a face, you're probably neurotic. Researchers at the NTT Communication Science Laboratories in Tokyo, Japan, conducted a study that revealed pareidolia, or the phenomenon of seeing faces in inanimate shapes and objects, is a feature found in neurotic people


https://www.womansday.com/health-fitness/wellness/a51249/do-you-see-faces-in-inanimate-objects-youre-probably-neurotic/

If that's what helps me outperform the masses or is a byproduct of it, I don't mind. Smiley

I would attribute it to a decades long conscious effort to find patterns where I previously haven't seen any though. Helps with doing Mathematics and excelling at games in general, which I derive the most pleasure from.



736. Post 31069273 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: flynn on February 25, 2018, 09:23:28 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.

Quote
If you see a face, you're probably neurotic. Researchers at the NTT Communication Science Laboratories in Tokyo, Japan, conducted a study that revealed pareidolia, or the phenomenon of seeing faces in inanimate shapes and objects, is a feature found in neurotic people


https://www.womansday.com/health-fitness/wellness/a51249/do-you-see-faces-in-inanimate-objects-youre-probably-neurotic/


On another hand, if you don't you probably suffer of psychotic disorder ...

It seems like literally everything is a disorder or a symptom of one these days. And the (multiple choice) questionnaires are highly ambiguous with answers that could be taken in any direction on a whim.



737. Post 31069541 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 25, 2018, 09:37:36 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.

Quote
If you see a face, you're probably neurotic. Researchers at the NTT Communication Science Laboratories in Tokyo, Japan, conducted a study that revealed pareidolia, or the phenomenon of seeing faces in inanimate shapes and objects, is a feature found in neurotic people


https://www.womansday.com/health-fitness/wellness/a51249/do-you-see-faces-in-inanimate-objects-youre-probably-neurotic/


On another hand, if you don't you probably suffer of psychotic disorder ...


I've been staring at that moon there for hours and I dont see no face, so I must be good.
OK...wait a minute...I kinda see a splotchy man in the moon...does that count?


If the holes are the eyes, stare at the nose and "passively" focus on the whole face without diverting your look from the nose.



738. Post 31069873 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: flynn on February 25, 2018, 09:44:02 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.

Quote
If you see a face, you're probably neurotic. Researchers at the NTT Communication Science Laboratories in Tokyo, Japan, conducted a study that revealed pareidolia, or the phenomenon of seeing faces in inanimate shapes and objects, is a feature found in neurotic people


https://www.womansday.com/health-fitness/wellness/a51249/do-you-see-faces-in-inanimate-objects-youre-probably-neurotic/


On another hand, if you don't you probably suffer of psychotic disorder ...


I've been staring at that moon there for hours and I dont see no face, so I must be good.
OK...wait a minute...I kinda see a splotchy man in the moon...does that count?


If the holes are the eyes, stare at the nose and "passively" focus on the whole face without diverting your look from the nose.

He was joking, you know ...
No I don't know. You can make the same joke with and without being able to see the face and it's not at all unlikely to know where it should be located but to not actually get the impression of a face being there.



739. Post 31070410 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 25, 2018, 09:48:31 PM

There must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
That looks like a face.

Quote
If you see a face, you're probably neurotic. Researchers at the NTT Communication Science Laboratories in Tokyo, Japan, conducted a study that revealed pareidolia, or the phenomenon of seeing faces in inanimate shapes and objects, is a feature found in neurotic people


https://www.womansday.com/health-fitness/wellness/a51249/do-you-see-faces-in-inanimate-objects-youre-probably-neurotic/


On another hand, if you don't you probably suffer of psychotic disorder ...

It seems like literally everything is a disorder or a symptom of one these days. And the (multiple choice) questionnaires are highly ambiguous with answers that could be taken in any direction on a whim.
People have trouble accepting that we are products of evolution, same as any other animal. I mean check this shit out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIUoMT1rY0w

How to explain this? Well on one hand she might just be insane. But that shouldn't be the first assumption. If we look at it from an evolutionary perspective, a very different answer emerges.

We lived in tribes, and the top men were warriors followed closely by hunters. The capacity for deadly violence was the single most important trait for a man in pre-agri times, and women are still drawn to men like that.

On the other hand there were also weaker men. They were good to have around, helped take care of the kids, they built huts and stuff and were tolerated by the stronger men because they were not a sexual threat and they watched over the tribe in their absense. But they were not sexy to women and did not get nearly as many kids.

So women today are stuck in a dilemma. Go for the nice guy who will always stick with me and never betray me, or the tough guy who is oh so sexy but not a family person.

And this is the result. Women ditching men for being "too nice", and other women who stay in what we call abusive relationships. It's all animal instincts.
I get your point exactly and I suspect the same thing. But damn, that clip was hilarious.



740. Post 31070432 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on February 25, 2018, 10:00:14 PM


He was joking, you know ...

I guess not everyone on this forum knows I'm an asshat...lol
I didn't take the man in the moon thing seriously, but the previous part left some room for doubt. Especially combined with the man in the moon..



741. Post 31070697 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on February 25, 2018, 10:04:34 PM


Is it easier to escape the irs or the one (and only) leader of china?
I'd guess the latter given that the US imposes exit taxes. Not sure if China does anything similar.



742. Post 31153562 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on February 27, 2018, 03:19:58 AM
On the fate of Satoshi's stash:

Quote
I told (2) and (3) that I'd obliterated all Bitcoin related material from my end and that they should do the same on their end.

"You what !" (2) asked. "How many bitcoin did you just delete ?"

"The value was worth about $40,000 US dollars when I deleted the file," I said.

"You didn't have to delete them," (2) said. "Just encrypt them and store on a USB stick. No-one would've been able to access them."

"The types of folks who are hunting us would not care whether they can access them of not," I said. "They just need to see that we've got something to hide and that it's Bitcoin-related. The governments around the globe have been locking up folks on suspected-aiding-terrorism charges and throwing the key away. I had to make sure there was absolutely nothing on my computers that showed I had any idea what Bitcoin or crypto was. I even deleted the crypto stuff I'd picked up during my assembly language days."



That link is even wordier than JJG. Can you tl;dr me about what this is exactly so that I'll feel motivated to read it some time?



743. Post 31153629 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 27, 2018, 03:21:15 AM
I hope none of you are actually believing anything you are reading.
Some people would not believe everything they read. But only the most sophisticated would never believe anything they read. Roll Eyes



744. Post 31156048 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 27, 2018, 04:09:24 AM
On the fate of Satoshi's stash:

Quote
I told (2) and (3) that I'd obliterated all Bitcoin related material from my end and that they should do the same on their end.

"You what !" (2) asked. "How many bitcoin did you just delete ?"

"The value was worth about $40,000 US dollars when I deleted the file," I said.

"You didn't have to delete them," (2) said. "Just encrypt them and store on a USB stick. No-one would've been able to access them."

"The types of folks who are hunting us would not care whether they can access them of not," I said. "They just need to see that we've got something to hide and that it's Bitcoin-related. The governments around the globe have been locking up folks on suspected-aiding-terrorism charges and throwing the key away. I had to make sure there was absolutely nothing on my computers that showed I had any idea what Bitcoin or crypto was. I even deleted the crypto stuff I'd picked up during my assembly language days."



That link is even wordier than JJG. Can you tl;dr me about what this is exactly so that I'll feel motivated to read it some time?

I am getting angry, guys (and gal).




It's not going to be looking pretty in this thread if these JJG ease of references continue.  Tongue


I'm just giving into peer pressure so I won't get bullied. Sad



745. Post 31158162 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 27, 2018, 05:24:07 AM
I'm just giving into peer pressure so I won't get bullied. Sad


O.k.  That is understandable.  Peeps cannot resist peer pressure.

I may spare you when shit hits the fan.


Speaking of shit. I'm watching the McAfee Netflix documentary and literally just paused at the part where some hookers state that he made them shit in his mouth through a hammock.



746. Post 31225962 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 28, 2018, 01:45:25 AM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-on-cryptocurrency-2018-2?r=US&IR=T

    Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have.
    He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations.
    Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky."


Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

Bill Gates is also the same guy who thought the Internet, anarchic network of networks as it used to be, would be a passing fad and everyone would just use the Microsoft Network.

Bill Gates is the same guy who can't quote you the price of common groceries found in the store, because he's up in the Ivory Tower along with the rest of the billionaires.

https://oleganza.com/all/how-bill-gates-managed-to-be-wrong-in-every-sentence-about-bitco/

refutes each point he made on reddit
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?



747. Post 31226430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 28, 2018, 02:19:42 AM
(...) Bill Gates
said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem
I'd say it depends on the drugs one buys.

And even if it's some "wrong" drug, getting it anonymously on the Internet sure beats looking for a fix in dodgy places.

so much this

Actually, with silk road, there was, really for the first time ever, some semblance of peer review and quality feedback.

I would argue that it probably reduced harm while it operated.

And who the fuck is Bill to decide for others how they may alter their consciousness anyway?
Seconded. The criminalization and stigmatization of drugs causes more harm than good from a social, economical and public health perspective. Not to mention the tresspassing on individual liberty or the fact that drug crime literally wouldn't exist if it wasn't a billion dollar industry.



748. Post 31227171 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: FartBuddy on February 28, 2018, 02:32:30 AM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-on-cryptocurrency-2018-2?r=US&IR=T

    Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have.
    He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations.
    Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky."


Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

Bill Gates is also the same guy who thought the Internet, anarchic network of networks as it used to be, would be a passing fad and everyone would just use the Microsoft Network.

Bill Gates is the same guy who can't quote you the price of common groceries found in the store, because he's up in the Ivory Tower along with the rest of the billionaires.

https://oleganza.com/all/how-bill-gates-managed-to-be-wrong-in-every-sentence-about-bitco/

refutes each point he made on reddit
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?

No.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/operating-systems/the--640k--quote-won-t-go-away----but-did-gates-really-say-it-.html

Quote
...the Bits technology blog published by The New York Times reported that the chief editor of The Yale Book of Quotations had tried without success to verify the quote.
Your link is about the alleged memory quote, not about the internet one.



749. Post 31227572 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: suchmoon on February 28, 2018, 02:49:59 AM
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?

It wasn't quite as dramatic as calling it a "fad" but he did underestimate its importance and had to revise his book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Ahead_(Bill_Gates_book)

Thanks.



750. Post 31229298 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on February 28, 2018, 03:34:31 AM
Pft. This is just a prelude to doom and you know it.  
Doom delayed due to orcarina playing.



751. Post 31233940 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 28, 2018, 04:54:23 AM
The #LightningNetwork on testnet is absolutely massive! 😲Developers from all over the world are testing it, running nodes, adding channels and sending payments to one another. Keep up the good work!

Oh yeah, well, real men run Lightning on MainNet. With port 22 open. AND ROOT LOGIN ENABLED !!
Real men hack and dox 127.0.0.1 Cool



752. Post 31234298 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 28, 2018, 05:56:53 AM
Bullflag forming around $10,950.  More train memes plz




753. Post 31236899 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 28, 2018, 06:49:47 AM
... and down she goes.

Sheeit.

$11k is being a real cunt.
Inc moon:




754. Post 31239851 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on February 28, 2018, 07:43:37 AM
I am a fuc@#in' bull but I will keep my mouth shut! I'll stay in the trench until the final enemy will come to me and say: "ok, come on man, let' make up.
How much for a bitcoin?" Then everything will change.
Don't get lost in the meanwhile.
That makes you a cow, not a bull. Sad



755. Post 31241621 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Karartma1 on February 28, 2018, 08:04:37 AM
@BTCMILLIONAIRE
Think as you wish.
I will wait at least for 25K to start partying again
Didn't mean any offence. Was just drawing inspiration from the holy Quran PBUI, in which a female is worth half a male. So since you're a bull in hiding you'd be a cow.



756. Post 31249223 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 28, 2018, 10:17:50 AM
Giancarlo really is a secret bitcoiner. Infiltrates the SEC. Blows it up. Much to the consternation of the old guard.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/bitcoin-futures-regulator-clears-employees-to-trade-crypto-coins

“This is actually mind-boggling that they are allowing investing in this at all,” said Angela Walch, an associate professor who specializes in digital money and financial stability at St. Mary’s University School of Law. “It could absolutely skew their regulatory decisions.”

The CFTC should be trying to regulate digital tokens, not allowing its workers to speculate on them, added Painter, a professor at University of Minnesota Law School. “This just looks terrible.”
I did not expect regulators to take this path to regulating themselves into the ground.



757. Post 31249963 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: soullyG on February 28, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
Anyone know how to get cryptowatch to display the chart in log scale? Can't find the option

hover over this thingy (top centre right) and your dreams will come true
~
meanwhile Rabobank wants our bitcoins
http://www.rabobit.nl/

Store your cryptocurrencies in a wallet hosted by a trusted party and within the secure online banking environment.


Thanks! Bleh, can't believe that I missed it...have a shame merit
Since LotV8 got the shame merit, should we be pointing at him while exclaiming "SHAME"?



758. Post 31251134 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 28, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Probably irrelevant, but here's a fresh AMA by Bill and Melinda Gates on Reddit.
I haven't read it, and don't think I will in the near future.
A page search for "bitcoin" yielded nothing, but I didn't bother searching for "crypto" or other related terms.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/dux49ll/

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The main feature of crypto currencies is their anonymity. I don't think this is a good thing. The Governments ability to find money laundering and tax evasion and terrorist funding is a good thing. Right now crypto currencies are used for buying fentanyl and other drugs so it is a rare technology that has caused deaths in a fairly direct way. I think the speculative wave around ICOs and crypto currencies is super risky for those who go long.



759. Post 31293814 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: d_eddie on February 28, 2018, 06:17:25 PM
Mark my words, before too long banks will be offering to hold your bitcoin for you (securely of course) and transferring between fiat to btc, and back, with little to no fee as incentive.

I'll say it again. I would trust some of my btc to a traditional bank, as long as

- The deposit is backed by (audited) crypto or undilutable bank stock (ordinary bonds would be OK too)

- I get my interest (in btc). A reasonable 10% or something like that, depending on market conditions.

These banks will find out that luring old school hodlers to part temporarily with their precioussss takes more than a flashy brochure.
They can shove 10% up their ass. I'd rather support a public firm at those rates. And any higher than that they can't guarantee anyways. I'd consider a bank safe with a hardware or paper wallet if it was insured for the fiat equivalent of the Bitcorns regardless of market situation, but I don't think there are any insurances that cover dynamic valuations without extracting insane fees that would render the whole deal uneconomical.



760. Post 31294217 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 28, 2018, 09:54:39 PM
First official day of retirement.

Woke up. Not sure what day it was.

Rick texted me and is totally fucking jelly that I'm a free man.

Already on beer #4.

Think I'm going to take a nap after this beer.

*yawn*

Fuck this downward-sideways bullshit. $11k is being a whore.

EDIT: ... although if mempool activity is any indicator, we're shaping up for a bullish afternoon/evening.


Did you remember to check on the status of the cat? 

You better get woke that retirement does not relieve you of all responsibilities.
Just buy a new one?

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
Mark my words, before too long banks will be offering to hold your bitcoin for you (securely of course) and transferring between fiat to btc, and back, with little to no fee as incentive.

I'll say it again. I would trust some of my btc to a traditional bank, as long as

- The deposit is backed by (audited) crypto or undilutable bank stock (ordinary bonds would be OK too)

- I get my interest (in btc). A reasonable 10% or something like that, depending on market conditions.

These banks will find out that luring old school hodlers to part temporarily with their precioussss takes more than a flashy brochure.
They can shove 10% up their ass. I'd rather support a public firm at those rates. And any higher than that they can't guarantee anyways. I'd consider a bank safe with a hardware or paper wallet if it was insured for the fiat equivalent of the Bitcorns regardless of market situation, but I don't think there are any insurances that cover dynamic valuations without extracting insane fees that would render the whole deal uneconomical.

They couldn't give any interest rate unless they were allowed to:

a) Running fractional reserve
b) Shorting the market (selling YOUR BTC)

There's absolutely no way I can think of... unless a market of fully insured Bitcoin lending would exist and offered better returns than those 10% they would give you... which it doesn't.

You could be glad if they don't charge you a custody fee for holding your BTC.

I wouldn't mind storing some BTC with them, at no interest rate, if they wouldn't charge me any fee for that AND it was fully insured (to the full BTC amount, not fiat value). I would be doing it as another "diversifying" on my hodling/storing strategy.

But it is not gonna happen because the numbers don't add up.
Pretty much that.

They'll find a way to charge, and it won't be worth it for the customer. But there will probably still be people who will go with it just because they're too lazy to research security.

On the other hand, it might be worth putting an encrypted private key into at least one safe safe.



761. Post 31296049 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 28, 2018, 10:29:14 PM

On the other hand, it might be worth putting an encrypted private key into at least one safe safe.

Most of my BTC is on hardware wallets and a smaller part on exchanges for trading purposes (probably only around 10% currently) so I feel comfortable with my storing strategy. But I wouldn't mind "diversifying" a small percentual part of my storing into an online third party *IF* it was fully insured... and no custody fee. That's what I meant.


I know, but you won't get a fully insured storage without paying an insurance fee in one form or another. If you pay it directly you know what you're getting into... with a proper contract. If you're getting the storage "free" you're paying it behind the scenes, potentially through the bank or exchange trading your Bitcorns. And at that point the counterparty risk increases dramatically. And I think we all know that banks don't keep sufficient backups and whine for bailouts when they fuck up.



762. Post 31300917 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Torque on March 01, 2018, 01:16:04 AM
Can you feel it?

Are you guys ready?
I have a PhD in procrastination. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be ready for. What did I miss?



763. Post 31315068 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 01, 2018, 06:25:26 AM
This sounds like it could be BIG: https://www.coindesk.com/germany-considers-crypto-legal-equivalent-to-fiat-for-tax-purposes/

But I am not sure of the exact meaning. Do they mean the "conversion" will be VAT exempt (as it is obvious it already is) or does it also means than when using BTC for buying services/goods no capital gains will be needed to be reported/paid? If so, up to which amount? Cofee? Huge TV? Lambo?

Anyone fluent in german that can understand the source document and post a more specific conclusion?
Basically states that for strictly payment purposes there's no VAT to be paid.

For mining purposes there's no tax because there's no "taxable event", as the block rewards and transaction fees are not a paid service (probably because the fees are variable and random) and the mining (which is defined as the solving of mathematical algorithms) is a voluntary action by the miner.

If a wallet provider charges fees they are subject to taxes in the event that the fees are charged within Germany.


Basically states that cryptocurrencies are equivalent to legal tender as long as they are strictly used as a means of payment. Not included in this are "game currencies".

Doesn't say anything about capital gains taxes, so I assume they're the same as before (that is whatever the tax rate is for short term holds, and tax free for long term holds of 12 months or longer).


If electricity prices in Europe were more reasonable that would pretty much invite mining operations into Germany... I kind of doubt that 10 times more expensive electricity would make up for virtual tax exemption.



764. Post 31315171 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: flynn on March 01, 2018, 07:56:35 AM
Can you feel it?

Are you guys ready?
I have a PhD in procrastination. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be ready for. What did I miss?

Ask this question again tomorrow next week.
The month just started though....



765. Post 31382881 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 02, 2018, 01:54:22 AM
No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000.

It's important to make each minute count.

I agree with the second part, not necessarily with the first.

there was no crypto before Satoshi
there was no www before early nineties
there were no PCs just 43 years ago

Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show) or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002). Would you be able in, say, 40-50 years, transfer your mental state to a different substrate? A fascinating topic.
There's also quite an amount of promising looking research going on into longevity, such as halting or reversing the effects of aging (successful in worms and rats). There's also that whole deal with Crispr. Then there's that guy who's planning a head transplant. And research in nanotechnology. And we've got billions of dollars focusing on AI as well. A breakthrough in just one of these could quite rapidly shift us into a "indefinite lifespan" species.



766. Post 31390956 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 02, 2018, 07:23:48 AM
I fear we are still hundreds of years away from really understanding our own wetware. 

Rubbish..look how fast and far we have progressed. I have seen economies of scale work too many times in my own lifetime to doubt in the least bit that we stand upon the event horizon.
The theoretical aspects of AI are pretty much set for human-level expansion. The bottleneck is hardware, and that's changing at a rapid pace.

Intel just brought out a new quantum chip. The faculty of Physics on this campus has just recently (couple years or so) started researching and creating hardware neural network chips.

There's also been research going on with new "substrates" for computers and storage devices.

These things snowball extremely quickly once the fundamental research has been done and things move into "physical production" territories, which we have been in for a few years now in the cases of quantum chips and neural network hardware (not sure what the current progress on using e.g. DNA for data storage or computing is).

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 02, 2018, 07:01:54 AM
No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000.

It's important to make each minute count.

I agree with the second part, not necessarily with the first.

there was no crypto before Satoshi
there was no www before early nineties
there were no PCs just 43 years ago

Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show) or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002). Would you be able in, say, 40-50 years, transfer your mental state to a different substrate? A fascinating topic.
There's also quite an amount of promising looking research going on into longevity, such as halting or reversing the effects of aging (successful in worms and rats). There's also that whole deal with Crispr. Then there's that guy who's planning a head transplant. And research in nanotechnology. And we've got billions of dollars focusing on AI as well. A breakthrough in just one of these could quite rapidly shift us into a "indefinite lifespan" species.

I have had this talk with my kids..they are all born around the turn of the century. They could very well be the last generation to die of natural causes as the Post-Quantum age approaches. We are right on the brink of data density's that surpass that of the human brain. At about 100 billion neurons + 10 times that in glial cells, the human brain is a amazing structure. We are right on the verge of being able to replicate that via neural nets.
Some interesting reading.
Brains
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/
Similarities of scale.
http://nautil.us/issue/50/emergence/the-strange-similarity-of-neuron-and-galaxy-networks
How many needed?
https://www.quora.com/How-many-neurons-are-needed-to-create-a-conscious-entity-Whats-the-minimum-number-of-neurons-to-trigger-that-consciousness
Large data storage technology needed to replicate a human brain.
https://archmission.org/about/

Many academics are saying this will be viable within 10 years. The ability of digital entities to adjust their own subjective time will be incredible.
I can't find any argument that really convinces me of consciousness being something unique to humans and/or animals. I also find it quite strange that we would try to separate our consciousness from the rest of the world. Studying statistics and probability theory on a theoretical level has got me tilting more and more towards "everything is conscious" and we're just walled off bits of consciousness.



767. Post 31391060 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Also regarding data storage:

https://petapixel.com/2016/02/16/glass-disc-can-store-360-tb-photos-13-8-billion-years/


I wish I had one of those, then I wouldn't have lost 4 terrabytes worth of old sentimental grade data by having two hard drives die simultaneously for no fucking reason.



768. Post 31751127 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Somehow whenever I see an Economist talk I lose more respect for the bunch. And I'm quite fond of Economics in general, too bad it's infested with intellectual toddlers and liars.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/forget-100000-bitcoin-says-kenneth-rogoff-try-100-instead-2018-03-06



769. Post 31751368 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 02, 2018, 03:58:56 PM
I wish I had one of those, then I wouldn't have lost 4 terrabytes worth of old sentimental grade data by having two hard drives die simultaneously for no fucking reason.

Ugh. This is tragic to hear. Coming from an IT background in a former life, I've learned about having redundancy for redundancy.

eg: All my main storage is via two Thunderbolt Promise RAID chassis DAS units running RAID5, that are backed up hourly to two Synology NAS' with massive storage capacity with Synology Hybrid RAID.

I've, blessedly, not had a catastrophic failure that I could not recover from within a few hours, over the last 10 years.

With no irony or snark, I'm sorry for your losses.
Meh, it happens. But thanks for the condolences.

I managed to snatch up the last available mint condition hard drives for each of the ones that I had that I could find on the internet.
So I've got some spare heads and PCBs that may or may not help me recover the files in the future.

But for now I've put that on halt since I'd have to move all my crypto holdings around since they are backed up on both of those drives as well and I wouldn't want some data recovery service to snatch them up.



770. Post 31751628 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Searing on March 07, 2018, 05:03:15 AM
Somehow whenever I see an Economist talk I lose more respect for the bunch. And I'm quite fond of Economics in general, too bad it's infested with intellectual toddlers and liars.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/forget-100000-bitcoin-says-kenneth-rogoff-try-100-instead-2018-03-06

But if you call BTC a scam now and are correct, your economic cred will moon. Especially
in Finance or Economics or say a Professor of these.

If you are wrong and BTC thrives. Everyone will forget.

So FUD works. Win/Win.
Yeah it's a pretty sad state of affairs. People who can't reason out proper arguments should be banned from any sort of policy making.

I wonder if this is something that will keep existing or if it'll slowly wane off as people gain more access to information.

Seems like it could go both ways. On one hand it's pretty difficult to miss the hypocrisy, lies, and manipulation by certain figures. On the other hand, people at large don't even seem to be interested in figuring out how things work in our world.



771. Post 31827040 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2018, 05:20:11 AM
165k is less than 1% of supply.  If the market shits itself because of a fear that 1% of coins might be sold, then the market needs to grow up.  
If volume is usually in the 10% range of the total supply then throwing an extra 1% on the market would increase volume by 10% (and thus to 11%). Let's say that of the 10% volume half is buy and half is sell pressure. If you now add 1% total supply to the sell side your sell pressure increases to 6%, which is now 20% higher than the buy pressure. This 20% figure is a bit more significant than 1% and in this case is more visible than the amount of extra coins are as a function of total supply.

tl;dr liquidity matters



772. Post 31828410 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: explorer on March 08, 2018, 06:11:04 AM
165k is less than 1% of supply.  If the market shits itself because of a fear that 1% of coins might be sold, then the market needs to grow up.  
If volume is usually in the 10% range of the total supply then throwing an extra 1% on the market would increase volume by 10% (and thus to 11%). Let's say that of the 10% volume half is buy and half is sell pressure. If you now add 1% total supply to the sell side your sell pressure increases to 6%, which is now 20% higher than the buy pressure. This 20% figure is a bit more significant than 1% and in this case is more visible than the amount of extra coins are as a function of total supply.

tl;dr liquidity matters


And we allll know what happens when it gets turned up to eleven!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 08, 2018, 06:25:13 AM
Bitcoin “market cap”: $250 billion
Sale amount required to crash Bitcoin by over 65%: approximately $0.5 billion
House of cards, anyone? When a few whales finally decide to cash out, the party is over.
Where do I sign up for a 65% discount sale?



773. Post 31829682 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 08, 2018, 06:38:36 AM
You guys play blindman's bluff until the cows come home. My eyes are wide open
When did you flip from hodl to panic? lol



774. Post 31831848 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2018, 07:42:42 AM
Oh good. Trump says gun violence is caused by video games. Glad we cleared that up.  Way to go, Republicans.
Are three decades of gaming not enough or am I just not a real gamer until I go balls deep into sudoku?


Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 08, 2018, 07:07:32 AM
Where do I sign up for a 65% discount sale?

The sale already happened.. .... don't you remember about 1 month ago -  $5,920?  Maybe you cannot remember because the sale was 70% rather than 65%?
Saleception please.



775. Post 31843844 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

I love Economists. They provide me with a constant supply of lulz.



776. Post 31847559 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 08, 2018, 11:58:48 AM

I love Economists. They provide me with a constant supply of lulz.

I like the art style on that, is it a game?



777. Post 31898361 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: pacman7331 on March 09, 2018, 06:39:13 AM
Bitcoin go up Bitcoin go down.  Reasons don’t matter.

Seriously. I guess it’s a whimsical market. The wind blows bitcoin explodes or collapses.

I’m baffeled.  Huh
Have you read about the cyclones on Saturn? They'd make for a pretty accurate comparison to the winds that blow in the crypto world.



778. Post 31906917 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 09, 2018, 09:47:43 AM
Ok, at this rate, I'm starting to wonder if I pull my BTC off the exchange and back into my wallet. Something tells me I'm not selling BTC before end of March.

This is starting to look like a downright apocalyptic shakeout.
I would, just to make sure no panic selling takes place due to inconvenience of doing so.



779. Post 31969411 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 09, 2018, 06:13:46 PM
No way could I ever work for somebody else now, been out on my own even without bitcoin for 10 years. I remember being 19/20 & being told to put the kettle on for an office full of people.
I remember being 5/10 minutes late for work a bunch of times & panicking about it.
 
I’d ratter die than go back to that kind of humiliating existence.

Me too. Been job-free for 42 years now.

I guess I'm lucky because my father was self-employed for as long as I can remember and so I wasn't brainwashed with the idea of a "regular job" since early childhood.
_____

When I was in kindergarten I was shown watercress growing wild in a creek in what is now a drained park in Toronto. I filled a 4 quart basket with cress and stopped by at the grocery store on my way home. I asked the owner if he wanted to sell it in his store.

He tasted it, remarked on its freshness (I just picked it!), divided it into 4 bunches held together with rubber bands, and said he'd give me 5 cents for 2 bunches. I got my first arithmetic lesson when he took 2 bunches and gave me a nickel and then repeated it, telling me I had 10 cents. I promptly spent half of it on candy, 3 for a penny of this, 4 for a penny of that.

When I got home, my parents were concerned about where I got the remaining nickel and the candy. When I told them, they were so proud of me, bringing home the bacon so to speak.

Later that day I went back for more candy and learned 2 more lessons. First I learned the hard way about spending your earnings too soon. Then when I saw only 3 bunches remaining with a price of 10 cents per bunch, I realized he had paid for the whole lot with just one sale and had 3 more to go.

That was my biggest lesson... retail markup and profit.
I originally wanted to go the traditional "job" route to make absolutely sure that I'll have enough money to be financially independent for the rest of my life before I hit 40 (by getting a very high paying Math/Tech related job and investing virtually everything), since I've figured out quite early in school that I just couldn't deal with a predefined lifestyle.

Somehow managed to get there way before that and the only jobs I've ever had were as a research assistant at university, which were less of a job and more of an interesting learning experience to me. Going full capitalist in online games as a kid helped, taught me a lot of valuable skills and made me some decent starter money on top of future scholarships.

Then Bitcorns came around and just obliterated the need of a job under a massive snowball.

It's quite interesting how quickly things went from "what the fuck am I doing I'm about to lose everything" to shrugging off massive drops in net worth.
Glad I took the plunge, not sure if I would have if I didn't know that I could easily score a >200k p.a. job though, despite having analyzed financial markets very carefully and concluding quite early on that Bitcorn is the holy grail of finance.
It's also quite interesting how the fear of making a wrong move diminishes as the portfolio grows, although I wonder if that's due to confidence from past successes or just because of having the money to burn.



780. Post 31969682 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: scum on March 09, 2018, 11:59:01 PM
The fact that bitcoin is sound money trumps everything; adoption, payment networks, umwelts, all these buzzwords newcomers bandy.
This shit is real money and it will absorb all the capital there is, with or without us.

This illustrates how sound bitcoin is as money.




It was posted earlier on, but the more people see it the better.
The bottom right corner should have a lambo with a shopping cart inside of it for accuracy.



781. Post 31975359 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Lopumbo on March 10, 2018, 08:36:21 AM
Fuck society. I did not came in the world to serve others. And yes, bitcoin is about money.

someone has to work for your food and shelter, well but maybe you're lucky and find some idiot to do it for you
ah and i forgot, in the end, whenever that may be, you all want to cash out to that filthy fiat

what is the real life use case for

BTC? i thought we just HODL it to the moon without spending it?
It's quite interesting that you'd talk about society while completely failing to grasp the complexity of it. Also, no job doesn't imply a lack of productivity.



782. Post 31977700 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: Cassius on March 10, 2018, 09:34:30 AM
2013 saw a bubble and fast recovery, then another bubble just a few months later. The speed of the drop and the apparent bottoming out at $6k suggests the same here - at least, it argues against 2014's slow grind.
There's also the fundamentals argument. And the fact that Bitcorn usually takes a dive after rallies, and generally takes a break after the holiday season. But given that banks already conceded their impotency I don't see any problem at this point. Worst conceivable scenario at this point seems to be a slower than expected grind to 6-7 digits and a global blockchain Economy.



783. Post 32052275 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on March 11, 2018, 10:41:06 AM
I am a heavy smoker though. Maybe you will get a nicotine buzz.

random: I quit cold turkey almost 15 years ago. Best decision I've ever made for my life and health. Very empowering to know I had the will to pull through the withdrawal symptoms.


How long did the withdrawal symptoms last, and how bad were they?
I used to smoke quite heavily, but I never had any withdrawals. When I feel like stopping for any reason I just stop. Right now I'm in an appartment where I can't smoke and I had no problems just not doing so when I moved in here.

Smoking in general is more of a social/meditative kind of thing for me though, especially the process of rolling a cigarette.

My attention also snowballs into just about anything and everything else just disappears from existence during that time, so perhaps I just don't notice any withdrawals by focusing my attention on other things. Heck, I forget to eat on some days, and I absolutely love food.



784. Post 32054968 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

The utility side of Bitcoin sucks! Angry

I just paid less than 10 cents for a Bitcoin transaction, and I didn't even use SegWit.



785. Post 32088544 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 11, 2018, 06:58:22 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2018/03/10/we-need-to-shut-bitcoin-and-all-other-cryptocurrencies-down-heres-why/#98c76a61bca8

What a clown .......
Is there anyway to bypass their Adblock-blocker? Don't feel like supporting lolForbes and Adnauseum doesn't seem to work there.



786. Post 32124005 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: vanobe on March 12, 2018, 02:15:00 AM
I feel like I'm stuck here until I get 9 more merits.

Only 8 more now for you.
Thanksssss

I blinked and you are up to 103 merits. Congratulations, in a few hours the forum engine should upgrade you to full member.
Woops. Looks like I was late to the party. Guess it'll go towards Senior Member then instead. Either way, best wishes Tera, hope you'll get well.



787. Post 32130866 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 12, 2018, 10:06:28 AM
Don't feel too guilty. Our rektonings will come.

http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/

Hah.  Is the author having a seizure?  I couldn’t get past the second paragraph.  


Was Occupy Wall Street a left wing thing?  The movement wasn’t supported by Libertarians?
OWS had a good number of leftist/socialist dweebs in it. Not sure if there were right wingers as well. But most of the people that I've heard talk were a bunch of morons who blamed capitalism for everything without even understanding the most basic basics of Economics and voluntary exchange.



788. Post 32152532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 12, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
What if miners had to pay a fee to mine but that was their entry ticket to a prize pool?  

That is pretty much how Bitcoin mining works.
Are you trying to imply that hardware and electricity costs could be called a fee? Roll Eyes



789. Post 32166401 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

What is happening in this thread now, I'm confused.



790. Post 32176754 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 12, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
What if miners had to pay a fee to mine but that was their entry ticket to a prize pool?  

That is pretty much how Bitcoin mining works.
Are you trying to imply that hardware and electricity costs could be called a fee?

I guess it depends upon what your definition of fee is. Not having specified to whom said free would be paidxi I merely assumed you only meant it in the generic sense of an expense.
Nah I agree with you. Miners already pay "for a ticket to a prize pool". Whether or not those costs are called fees is just semantics and doesn't change anything.



791. Post 32215110 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2018, 05:12:33 AM
Roger Ver: Bitcoin Jesus Becomes Bitcoin Judas   

https://theicojournal.com/roger-ver-bitcoin-jesus-becomes-bitcoin-judas/

Does anyone even edit any more?

The piece would be fine, and I agree with its thesis, but proofreading errors drive me absolutely nuts.

I see it more and more in so called journalism, even on big name sites.  The hard bitten copy editors of old are spinning in their graves.
Yeah that irks me quite a bit too. I don't get how a fucking journalist could be too incompetent and/or lazy to publish a decent article. And let's not even get started about the often poorly researched and sometimes outright false information.



792. Post 32215305 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Torque on March 13, 2018, 12:30:49 PM
There’s FUD around Kucoin running a fractional reserve.   Consider pulling your coins off.

Telling people to pull their coins off of some shady ass fly-by-night Cryptsy 2.0 is like advising millennials that eating Tide Pods could be "a health risk".
Are you saying that it should not be done so natural selection can run its course? Or that it's just simply a futile endeavour?



793. Post 32240734 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Anon136 on March 13, 2018, 06:39:07 PM
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To be truly effective, all these efforts require close international cooperation. Since crypto-assets know no borders, the framework to regulate them must be global as well.

They are screwed.

The moment they finally get that nailed down Elon lands on mars and thumbs his nose at them.
You're making it sound as if Elon is never going to land on Mars. :/



794. Post 32242076 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Anon136 on March 13, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
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To be truly effective, all these efforts require close international cooperation. Since crypto-assets know no borders, the framework to regulate them must be global as well.

They are screwed.

The moment they finally get that nailed down Elon lands on mars and thumbs his nose at them.
You're making it sound as if Elon is never going to land on Mars. :/

I was skeptical too until the moment those rockets landed themselves back on earth. That was amazing. Did you see that footage?
I did. I loved how synchronized they were, made it look like CGI.



795. Post 32247059 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: gembitz on March 13, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
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To be truly effective, all these efforts require close international cooperation. Since crypto-assets know no borders, the framework to regulate them must be global as well.

They are screwed.

The moment they finally get that nailed down Elon lands on mars and thumbs his nose at them.
You're making it sound as if Elon is never going to land on Mars. :/

isn't Elon from Mars? ..did i miss something? :\ hmm
Might as well be, South Africa doesn't seem much different from Mars right now. And at current rates Mars is likely to surpass SA within a few decades.



796. Post 32250673 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 13, 2018, 09:30:29 PM

An appropriate reply:
https://youtu.be/2RJH7GdvjP0?t=56
All I hear is Tetris.



797. Post 32540977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.48h):

Quote from: Anon136 on March 17, 2018, 07:00:41 PM
As a business owner I wouldn't price anything in bitcoin. Not yet anyway. Maybe after wider adoption it's volatility calms down. But you can still price your products in ounces of gold or silver and take bitcoin as payment. So that whole "bitcoin cant be a currency" thing is dumb. It may or may not ever be a good money. But it makes a fine currency even right now.
It's far more convenient than the payment methods Europe generally uses right now, as credit cards aren't really that much of a thing there. Once the likes of Lightning Network and mass adoption in retail take place I won't really see myself using any other currency anymore unless I had to.



798. Post 32710602 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on March 19, 2018, 10:11:34 PM
...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1385913

Haven't you got a lot of merits for a newish guy? Oh look, they're all from one 'other' guy.
Bounder.


That's a cheap trick. Roll Eyes
Regarding the above, was 9 corns ever enough to buy a lambo??
wtf was I thinking?
I wonder what they could do to make it any more obvious other than outright spamming the forum with posts that they're merit trading.



799. Post 32710658 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: 600watt on March 19, 2018, 08:58:32 PM
Bitcoin is unfolding like the dotcom crash — just 15 times faster

Edit: Amazon crashed from a high of over $100, to a low of about $10 in 2000. 18 years later, they hit $1,578. If we apply the same recovery gain percentage to the recent bitcoin low of ~$6,000, and assume 15x recovery speed, we'd hit ~$946,000 in Apr. 2019. This is all based on questionable math and a clickbait article, but still fun to think about.


$946k per btc in about a year? if that comes true I will buy a lambo for everyone that merits this post.





Damn, out of merits.



800. Post 33030863 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 24, 2018, 05:49:01 AM
Roger Ver announced Bitcoin.com wallet will only hold bcash lol. 
Are they really still going? Do they have anything planned to go against LN? I don't see how they are going to even pretend to be relevant after that.



801. Post 33031005 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 24, 2018, 05:56:03 AM
Roger Ver announced Bitcoin.com wallet will only hold bcash lol.  
Are they really still going? Do they have anything planned to go against LN? I don't see how they are going to even pretend to be relevant after that.

The only way LN works for mass adoption is like this, but that was the plan all along:


I would care about your nonsensical rambling if you properly asserted that literally anybody can open hubs, while hardly anyone can open a bank.



802. Post 33177282 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Torque on March 25, 2018, 08:45:56 PM
For years now I keep reading "...when Bitcoin takes off.." or "...in the future, Bitcoin will become...."

It has already taken off.

We are living it.

The future of Bitcoin is here, and now.
If you would consider the internet to be "here and now" around 10-20 years ago, then I'd agree. So far Bitcorns are still very much fringe. Everybody knows they exist but nobody really knows what the fuck it is. Who knows how quickly we'll snowball into mainstream usage though. With progress accelerating we might actually end up buying coffee with Bitcoins in the early 2020s.



803. Post 33204134 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.49h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 26, 2018, 10:31:17 AM
So. I was going to sell some of my stash this summer to pay of all my loans and then retire and live of my passive income that I have from my disability pension, some insurances that pays out monthly and some other stuff. That would give me a nice middle class life with no worries. And as a nice topping on the cake I would get to see the face of my employer when I tell him I quit. I'm one of only two guys who knows how to do that special job right now and he would be in a state of slight panic. He is also a real asshole, which is why that would have given me much rejoice.

But to my great disappointment he went belly up a month ago, so I have been without a job for a month now, and have to sell right now instead of in the summer. Bad timing but nothing I can do about it.
I just sold one fourth of my stash and when the money hits my bank account tomorrow I will immediately pay of all debts and bills. and then I will take a tour of nostalgia to places in my life, an actual tour through the city that is.
I will stop and reminisce on the places I have lived and the places I have worked and other significant places from my life, and then I will just go somewhere and have a cup of coffee and enjoy total freedom from work and debt.
I am now officially retired at 57 and it feels great.
If things always went exactly as planned life would get boring quite quickly, wouldn't it? Enjoy your retirement and don't sit around yelling at clouds too much. Retirement should only be from "forced" things, such as hustling to pay the bills in my opinion.



804. Post 33545366 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: windjc on March 30, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
Lolol

So much despair and anger on this thread. Oh the joys of bitcoin the soap opera.

Human emotions are always right on cue, they never miss a beat.

No more moons just death and destruction. Good times. Good times.



805. Post 33547103 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Torque on March 30, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Well, I guess that's the end of Bitcoin.

Time to buy bank stocks. I think they're really going to take off...I saw one bank now has $20 wire transfer rates that only take 4 days. What a deal!

Make sure you back up the truck on Deutsche Bank stock. I hear the company is totally fine, yep yep, not insolvent at all. Will rebound any day now!
Speaking of Deutsche Bank, they essentially scammed me on my student loan back in the day. Gave me one rate, then randomly changed to another without notice, which ended up at a total of around 11% instead of the agreed upon 1,xx%. Needless to say I took out a loan elsewhere and paid DB back in one go. Also cut all ties with them while at it. Not sure if their scams are a symptom of or a result of their insolvence.



806. Post 33582691 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 31, 2018, 09:04:49 AM
Long / shorts ratio almost 1:1.  It’s been a long time since it was this bad .


More shakeouts ahead. I still stand by the notion that hunting for altcoins during low BTC prices is a good thing to do. Since they fluctuate by several tens of %s very frequently and sometimes multiply in a predictable manner low BTC prices essentially make it much easier to increase your BTC holdings as compared to the 20k Bitcorns we had a little while ago.



807. Post 33655185 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 01, 2018, 08:09:58 AM
WTF is all the new info under our usernames?
April Fool's. But more importantly, how are the stats calculated? This is the big mystery that this thread is failing to address or even acknowledge.



808. Post 33679965 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: scum on April 01, 2018, 10:34:04 AM
Notlambchop is too ashamed to ever show her face again.   She wasted two years of her life and had opportunities like few other.  

Theymos's April fool's day joke has given Notlambchop ridiculously high politeness and virtue scores. They should be negative numbers for Notlambchop.


I don't know, you're scum and have a very low politeness. So everything seems to be in order. Roll Eyes



809. Post 33716398 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 01, 2018, 08:27:11 PM
For those of you comparing gold to bitcoin, don’t.  

The gold price is suppressed because gold is too easy to mine with modern mining techniques. Gold has a supply problem, there is too much of it.  We have mined far more gold since 1950 than we have in all of history, and that has flooded the market.

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The best estimates currently available suggest that around 190,040 tonnes of gold has been mined throughout history, of which around two-thirds has been mined since 1950.

Source:  https://www.gold.org/about-gold/gold-supply/gold-mining/how-much-gold-has-been-mined

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

So ignore the 4th dimension conspiracy bullshit, because the author doesn’t know how supply and demand works in the gold market.

Bitcoin is scarce.  Gold is as common as dirt.
Not to mention the very real threat of synthetic gold becoming dirt cheap with breakthroughs in either the synthetic process itself or energy (nuclear fusion), or future asteroid mining. I wouldn't bet on metals for the next decades as a safe haven.



810. Post 33744922 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 01, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
For those of you comparing gold to bitcoin, don’t.  

The gold price is suppressed because gold is too easy to mine with modern mining techniques. Gold has a supply problem, there is too much of it.  We have mined far more gold since 1950 than we have in all of history, and that has flooded the market.

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The best estimates currently available suggest that around 190,040 tonnes of gold has been mined throughout history, of which around two-thirds has been mined since 1950.

Source:  https://www.gold.org/about-gold/gold-supply/gold-mining/how-much-gold-has-been-mined

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

So ignore the 4th dimension conspiracy bullshit, because the author doesn’t know how supply and demand works in the gold market.

Bitcoin is scarce.  Gold is as common as dirt.
Not to mention the very real threat of synthetic gold becoming dirt cheap with breakthroughs in either the synthetic process itself or energy (nuclear fusion), or future asteroid mining. I wouldn't bet on metals for the next decades as a safe haven.

I'm not sure why people all go to nucleosynthesis and asteroid mining when presenting these arguments. The gold industry hasn't even made it economically feasible to do deep sea mining or just digging deeper. We haven't even pecked the surface of our own planet. I would imagine going down deeper  into the crust and maybe even starting to go into the mantle would be way cheaper than flying back and forth to some asteroid.
Because nuclear fusion is predicted for 2030ish, which would render energy as an abundant resource and hence make both synthesis and space mining more sensible than carving out our home planet. And that's just one drop in the ocean of inventions on the horizon.



811. Post 33747774 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: windjc on April 02, 2018, 03:43:48 AM


I'll have to talk to Jimbo. The ATM I was looking at was looking to really squeeze me.

Go though the rates for all your nearest ATMs shown on coinatmradar until you find one that's not ripping you off.

https://coinatmradar.com/

This post explains how Jimbo does it. He said in other posts that he has to shop around until he finds one with a rate he likes. Some of them have a constantly changing rate.

Did your ATM let you withdraw 2 $2.5k transactions anonymously (without ID) a few weeks ago? I assumed you must have provided ID scans to get that kind of limit allowed.

No ID required. To maintain a daily limit for the purpose of AML laws, they require a cell phone on which you can receive text messages.

To sell coins, you enter your cell number and they immediately text you a code number to enter into the ATM. This unlocks the ATM and allows you to do the transaction. After you have specified the amount of the transaction, it displays a QR code to scan with your mobile hot wallet.

It then tells you to wait for the transaction to be confirmed by the network. I always include a priority fee and it has always been included in the next block. After it has been confirmed, it texts you and tells you to return to the ATM and tap "redeem".  They then text you another code number. When you enter that number it immediately starts spitting out $100 bills.

The time it takes for the whole process depends on the time it takes to confirm the TX. It has never taken me more than a half hour.

The cell phone I use is an anonymous pay-as-you-go Speakout flip-phone from a 711 store. I have several of them (all free from promotions) in case I ever need to exceed my daily limit. Because Speakout allows free texting even when the time has run out, they cost nothing and are always available.

The Android device I use for the Mycellium wallet to sweep a paper wallet and send the coins, is a cheapie Blu phone they were giving away for free for buying an air-time top-up in a holiday promotion a couple of years ago. To get Android to boot up I had to insert a SIM card but I found that a non-activated card worked just fine. The SIM card was also free in a promotion and fully anonymous. I connect to the network via free wifi from a donut shop next door. Of course the Android phone has never been connected to my home wifi nor been associated with my identity in any way.

Needless to say, I never connect to Google or Playstore. I installed Mycellium from an APK file downloaded on a Windows PC from the Mycellium website.

Buying coins is even easier. You simply tap "buy", scan the QR code for your paper wallet's public key, and start feeding in cash. No phones or devices required.

I'll never understand why people have a problem with paper wallets. They're easy to use and and offer the ultimate in security.




Well you aren't in the USA where they have cameras and datapoints of your existence everywhere.. there are at least 8-10 people and a supercomputer assigned to EACH civilian.. lab animals have more freedom

Lol. So in America there are 350 million supercomputers and between 2.8 billion and 3.5 billion people assigned to track all the 350 million civilians? Lol. Sounds legit.

Conspiracy theorists =/logic
A single smart phone would have been considered a super computer not long ago.



812. Post 33771883 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.50h):

Quote from: Majormax on April 02, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
The polarity here and the unequivocal confidence that each party is 100% right, is amazing.




Just like all politics/economics/media,  then.
I would extend this to literally any argument that has ever existed.



813. Post 33860504 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 03, 2018, 05:29:12 PM

Is there any update on that 1m Bitcorn lawsuit or did I just imagine that in the first place?



814. Post 33865006 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 03, 2018, 06:18:54 PM

Is there any update on that 1m Bitcorn lawsuit or did I just imagine that in the first place?
We’ll have to wait for the case itself to test the validity of any party’s claims, however. The next stage in proceedings is expected to be a response from Wright’s legal team by April 16, 2018.
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/03/13/lawyer-kleiman-vs-wright-raises-questions-identity-satoshi-nakamoto/
Thanks for that link. Let's hope he'll get exposed for the fraud that he is in court.



815. Post 34007140 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Torque on April 05, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
We pop 4% after many weeks of 10% drop after 10% drops, and you guys are posting rocket gifs?   Huh
They cut off the part where the rocket explodes. Tongue



816. Post 34007747 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on April 05, 2018, 03:38:52 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
Are you sure about the 90% figure? Sounds a bit far fetched given that Europe and the US alone have more than 1B people.



817. Post 34009103 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on April 05, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
Are you sure about the 90% figure? Sounds a bit far fetched given that Europe and the US alone have more than 1B people.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/economy/what-government-plans-to-do-with-the-old-rs-500-1000-notes/98-of-all-consumer-payments-in-india-use-cash/slideshow/55579468.cms

98% of all consumer payments in India use cash

About 98 percent of all consumer payments in India use cash, and the high frequency of handling forces the monetary authority to withdraw about 75 percent of its notes in circulation in a typical year - more than the number of bank notes collectively produced by all countries taken together with the exception of China.
I should've read more thoroughly. This is just about India and not the whole world, right? If so that sounds much more reasonable.



818. Post 34156376 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: yonton on April 07, 2018, 02:29:33 PM
I see some good quality S & D happening today. Some talented hands at work.
S&D?



819. Post 34167243 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Lauda on April 07, 2018, 05:01:37 PM
very quick short list  for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only  when breaking 12288 dollar price.....  almost same rules as the list before just a winning date AND
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              .15 BTC for correct date
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              only accounts with minimum 5 Merit and 20 activity (last time to many new pop't up Roll Eyes  )
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LIST CLOSES tuesday 12 CET allways CET time  no execptions
just for quick enjoyment

normal tommorrow i look @the dates.... firts one posted has the choosen date , some one with the same date have too take another one so look out a bit....
DATES sended in PERSONAL MESSAGE will    NOT count

let us break back 5-digits
I'll take 21. July 2018. Thanks.
May 31st please.



820. Post 34184625 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 07, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
life at the bottom not all bad

Ramen is the food of Kings and Gods. Excluding instant stuff though, which is alright but simply cannot compete.



821. Post 34217173 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 08, 2018, 10:05:45 AM
life at the bottom not all bad

Ramen is the food of Kings and Gods. Excluding instant stuff though, which is alright but simply cannot compete.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092048/
Been aware of it for a while, but still haven't watched it. Is it worth?



822. Post 34217337 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: serveria.com on April 08, 2018, 10:41:23 AM


We need to change orange to "HODLers" and bears to "REKT bears".  Grin
The center obviously has an underwater and a sky city respectively for HODLers. Thought that much was a given.



823. Post 34255811 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 08, 2018, 03:08:24 PM

Serious question: What's wrong with Belgium ?

How about "Make Britain Great Again". Seriously.

I can't believe the stories I'm hearing coming out of Londonistan.
There were two events that I'm quite happy didn't turn out as planned in my life. One of them was going to one of the elite universities in London. Not going there saved me from wasting my time with an Economics degree in the short term, while keeping me away from Saudi sponsored Mosques and bullshit in the mid-term and possibly long-term. I'm surprised that people aren't leaving London in masses.



824. Post 34256056 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 08, 2018, 10:04:11 PM
Dude have you actually spent any time in London?

I am there regularly and I don’t recall seeing any Saudi sponsored mosques.

My biggest complaint is no mobile coverage on the Tube.  Wtf is up with that?
I have been to London, yes. And there are parts that are pretty much fine, for now (after all the richest people in the world gather there). But I wouldn't want to go anywhere near East London, especially during the night.

But anyways, the Saudis provide Mosques and book stores in the UK with Wahabi interpretations of Islam and actively radicalize people.

Edit: That's pretty old news too, which even the BBC has covered years ago before you went to prison for a dog doing the Nazi salute.



825. Post 34256561 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.51h):

I don't have any real issues with Brexit. The EU is a very recent development that was pretty much imposed on the people of Europe, which unlike the EU has existed for hundreds of years. If people don't like the EU, then fuck it. That's what democracy means. Not that I'm a fan of democracy since all the wrong people get to vote on matters that they haven't studied rigorously enough to even begin having a basic grasp on them, but alas, we supposedly live in democracies.



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Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 09, 2018, 06:41:59 PM
blah blah hate hate hate blah blah

Buy more silver. It's the only thing that the evil Illuminati haven't thought of in their diabolical master plan.



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Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 11, 2018, 05:13:37 AM
Ultimately we know that the sympathy card is one that you frequent in playing.... Poor por tera dee...... ebra....  Cry Cry
They said I was supposed to see my spirit animal or something - it was supposed to be like a bird or a snake or a jaguar.. but I saw none of those and I bet you can guess what it really was.  Wink



My understanding is that if you have a lot of deamons inside then your ayahuasca experience is going to be more challenging, and the inside might not look so pretty.

But, hey, I am no expert, and maybe I would even be a bit more chicken-shit to deal with myself... I have also heard that sometimes ayahuasca can help to slay some of the deamons too... I suppose, even if those deamons happen to be bears... might be good, no?

You may need to return ur selfie to peru... confront the deamons and perhaps even become "good friends" with the mountaineous creatures in the midst.... let the boy come out in you, perhaps?    what happens in peru... blah blah blah..  Lips sealed
Psychedelics in general just amplify what is already going on inside you.
Hence if you're having a hard time with life, then that will be amplified to extreme and potentially life-like levels with all your insecurities and problems taking "real" shapes depending on the dosage that you've ingested.

As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.

So far I didn't have anything anywhere near as extreme as the horror stories that I've read on the internet though, and I can't imagine myself ever having any of those experiences either.
But I've also made it a point to remember what I did prior to the experience, which takes off the edge. I'm also quite curious as to what is going to happen during the moment of death, since it's quite obviously just a fairly tale that humans tell themselves for the lulz. And then, with a high enough dosage you lose control anyways and at that point it doesn't really matter what happens since you just fully dissolve in what is happening (if anything at all).

However, I could imagine that the tea that shamans brew in their filthy pots in the jungles with all the resulting vomitting and diarrhea could have a very different impact on the person though. Which is also why I'm not particularly interested, although I've had an experience with throwing up on the come up before, which while fucking hilarious, wasn't something I'd need to repeat in that form.


All the same is true for cannabis as well by the way, which is why some people with certain characters get overly paranoid on it. The trick is to distract yourself and to just fake it until you make it. At some point any onset of paranoia just becomes a predictable meme to laugh at (disclaimer: do not try at home I'm not a doctor etc).


P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?



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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on April 11, 2018, 10:43:07 AM
some interesting new FUD ... from a bank 'analyst' research division no less. If you are a self-convicted permabull you may want to innoculate yourself before reading Barclay's special FUD mind worm piece below ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12030678

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Analysts at investment bank Barclays developed a pricing model for the cryptocurrency based on epidemiology — the study of the spread of disease through populations — which divides the pool of potential investors into three groups, "susceptible", "infected" and "immune".

"However, once full adoption is approached, the price decline is sustained and rapid.

"Eventually, this leads to a plateauing of prices, and progressively, as random shocks to the larger supply population push up the ratio of sellers to buyers, prices begin to fall. That induces speculative selling pressure as price declines are projected forward exponentially.

"This occurs with infectious diseases when the immunity threshold is reached, [that is], the point at which a sufficient portion of the population becomes immune such that there are no more secondary infections."

In Barclays' model, the original "infected" were the 0.1 per cent of the population who first bought cryptocurrencies with an unknown long-term fundamental value, while the "susceptible" were the 25 per cent drawn in by fear of missing out.

... funnily enough after all the FUD they cover their asses at the end by saying we will 'almost' revisit ATH. All I read from the whole bullshit propaganda hit piece was that Barclay's is accumulating.

In fact, chart looks a lot like everyone and their dogs are accumulating ... it's a classic accumulation phase.
I like how they pulled parameters out of their asses and didn't provide different case studies. I would be quite surprised if there wasn't a set of parameters that resulted in Bitcorns not falling off in price, as there are almost always two to three distinct cases with different behaviour (up, down, oscillating).



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Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 11, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.
...
However, I could imagine that the tea that shamans brew in their filthy pots in the jungles with all the resulting vomitting and diarrhea could have a very different impact on the person though. Which is also why I'm not particularly interested, although I've had an experience with throwing up on the come up before, which while fucking hilarious, wasn't something I'd need to repeat in that form.

I can't speak to the diarrhea, but I've heard vomiting is often a side-effect of the experience.

I've been fascinated with the idea of taking DMT to experience ego death, but, unfortunately, would very likely suffer from serotonin shock, and die, due to drug interactions with my daily regimen.

I've learned to make peace that I need certain prescribed pharmaceutical products in my system to balance me out. Not sure if I really want to try getting off 'em at my age ("ain't broke, don't fix etc.. right now")

So yeah, random aside I guess. An experience I will not be crossing off my bucket list, in this lifetime.

That, and I have a horrible, HORRIBLE aversion to vomiting.
The only time I vomitted was on psilocybin mushrooms, but I was slightly sick when taking them and ate quite a lot (of food) before that as well. So I was basically asking for it. Other than that I've never had any problems. Although the only time I've taken DMT was vaporized and not in the form of a tea either. I'm not interested in ayahuasca precisely because of the vomitting and the supposedly disgusting taste. At least with dried mushrooms they taste like nuts, and all the other substances can either be jammed into gelatine capsules or just have no taste to begin with.

Without trying to pry too hard, have you done this constructive analyzing/talking about whatever the fuck happened in your life kind of stuff? I haven't really heard of any depression cases where there wasn't something going on at some point in their life (e.g. just a naturally occurring chemical imbalance).
I got over my crap by spending way too much time with my thoughts alone and eventually things just clicked into place and now even with brief depressive episodes it's all just whatever (in a good way). Now those times feel more like spice in what we call life than some obstacle and I've actually grown quite fond of them, as they usually force me to set myself back on track whenever I go full retard for too long.


Quote from: infofront on April 11, 2018, 02:53:37 PM
P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn.

In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances.
Fair enough. I guess both are just some form of risk taking behaviour.



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Quote from: gentlemand on April 11, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn.

In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances.

I for one would never, ever touch anything of that nature. I've known quite a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back.

It's one thing to blow your tits off with amphetamines, it's quite another to start meddling with your infinitely delicate brain chemistry.
Did they have any prior conditions? Did they mix the substances with something else? What exactly did they take?

Generally, LSD, Psilocybin, DMT and Mescaline are among the most safe substances that you could ever ingest, even when compared to alcohol and tobacco.

However, there are substances that are being sold off as LSD and whatnot that are quite something else. They have similar effects, but can actually be lethal or otherwise problematic. In the 60s a substance called DOM was sold off as LSD. However, it took far longer for its onset, so people took more thinking it was a dud. It also lasted much longer than LSD and didn't really have an "upper ceiling" (LSD stops within 12ish to 24 hours regardless of dosage), DOM on the other hand lasts longer the more you take. 10mg lasts for upwards of 30 hours nonstop, and people took 20 to 40mg of it (because idiots put 20mg on a blotter while 5mg was already a pretty heavy dose) and then got hospitalized.

Then there's other stuff that can literally kill you if you take just a little bit too much, which also gets sold off as LSD.

But when it comes to "classic" psychedelics, they're as safe as it gets.

If you wanted to overdose on mushroom (lethal dose) you'd have to ingest about 5 kilograms of fungal matter. And you would die way before the substance could kill you just by the sheer amount of matter that you'd be ingesting to get anywhere close. Heck, you'd be tripping so hard that you wouldn't even be capable of eating any more to get to a point where you could die, be it from the substance itself or the amount of "food".

So other than taking the wrong substance without realizing it and overdosing, the only potential issues are mixing substances with problematic interactions, or already being mentally unstable and then tripping in a bad environment at a bad time.

These substances aren't toys and it's important to be mentally at ease before, during and for a day or two after the event. They're also quite powerful tools though, and there's quite a body of successful research going on into treating depression, PTSD, addictions (tobacco, opiates, alcohol), anxiety and the like right now. The only reason this research isn't further than it is right now is because of the classification as Schedule I thanks to Murrica's political games a few decades ago.



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Quote from: mfort312 on April 11, 2018, 03:09:08 PM
Psychedelics in general just amplify what is already going on inside you.
Hence if you're having a hard time with life, then that will be amplified to extreme and potentially life-like levels with all your insecurities and problems taking "real" shapes depending on the dosage that you've ingested.

As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.

So far I didn't have anything anywhere near as extreme as the horror stories that I've read on the internet though, and I can't imagine myself ever having any of those experiences either.
But I've also made it a point to remember what I did prior to the experience, which takes off the edge. I'm also quite curious as to what is going to happen during the moment of death, since it's quite obviously just a fairly tale that humans tell themselves for the lulz. And then, with a high enough dosage you lose control anyways and at that point it doesn't really matter what happens since you just fully dissolve in what is happening (if anything at all).

P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

It's almost impossible to predict where people's demon's might take them. I watched a guy leap through a (closed) window, and then proceed to gnaw a guy's thumb off who was trying to help him. Dude was an experienced psychonaut too, but ayahuasca delves deeper than most.

At the same time, my spinal column lit like a rocket and propelled me straight into god's eye. A few millennia and hundreds of death/rebirth cycles later, I woke up. Like WOKE woke.

Bitcorn was a no-brainer "risk" after that! What's the worst that can happen?  Grin


A second round after the fact? Tongue

I smoked DMT while peaking on LSD once and I'm not sure I would've even been capable of moving to jump out of a window if I wanted to. And on "physically functional" dosages I've always been very capable of thinking my actions through prior to taking them out. I'm really curious as to how people lose control or if it's more of a denial kind of thing. I've experimented dozens of times and never got anywhere close. The dumbest thing I ever did was shake a tree while on a cliff, slipping up would've been bad. But that's not precisely substance related and something that kids would do regardless. I mean, if you could literally shake a gigantic tree, you just would, period (it's easy to shake them at the top).



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Quote from: gentlemand on April 11, 2018, 03:29:38 PM
Did they have any prior conditions? Did they mix the substances with something else? What exactly did they take?

I'm not talking death of course, they just wound up as vacant shadows. I dunno if there was something underlying in each case, but the eagerness people have to upend their brains is a little befuddling to me. You have no idea what effect they'll have on you yourself until you're too far gone to do anything about it.
The way I see it is, I supposedly only get one life and want to experience as much of it as possible. Of course that demands caution as well, but I've spent roughly a decade researching all sides of the story for every substance that I've ever tried and ultimately concluded that the risk/reward ratio for (some) psychedelics was in the favour of taking them, at least for me. I've made sure that I knew what to expect to the best I could and started small with no obligations for the coming days. At the end of the day, it was like Cannabis turned up to 11.



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Quote from: Hueristic on April 11, 2018, 04:05:54 PM


This literally is the only Image that was not showing up and it's the only one on topic! what are the odds. Smiley


P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn.

In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances.

I do so miss Mescaline, haven't seen it around sine the mid 90's. There's nothing like laughing for 9 hours straight to peak the spirit if not really hurt the jaw mustles. Cheesy

LSD on the other hand I can't do again last 2 times almost ended up in death, first time for someone else and the last time for myself.
Oh god yes, I love Mescaline. Unfortunately it's too expensive and rare to get as HCl and I'm not too keen on eating pounds of hellishly bitter cacti. One can only dream that the renaissance of research in this field will make it more accessible by the time I'm an old fuck.

I'm really curious, how do people end up almost dead on LSD though? Other than Mescaline it was the most lucid substance that I've ever taken, even at higher doses.


Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 11, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
all drugs are good mkay
sometimes in moderation and sometimes fun with no moderation. fuck it enjoy life

Try anything once, twice if you like it. Smiley

What if you like it so much that you would wanna keep on trying it for the rest of your life even if it may have a high chance of fucking it up?
then avoid it if you have no self control
I'd say then your priorities are backwards. Drugs are only fun if you've got your shit more or less together. Otherwise they're like alcoholism, which is, misery to say the least. I mean sure, nobody knows what the fuck they are doing and what the hell is going on in life (mostly), but there are times, places and doses for just about anything in life.


Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 11, 2018, 03:49:31 PM
Without trying to pry too hard, have you done this constructive analyzing/talking about whatever the fuck happened in your life kind of stuff? I haven't really heard of any depression cases where there wasn't something going on at some point in their life (e.g. just a naturally occurring chemical imbalance).

Genetically inherited, unfortunately. 4 generations now.
That sucks to hear. Let's hope the singularity and Crispr-9 will sort you out in your lifetime.



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Quote from: 600watt on April 11, 2018, 07:41:35 PM
P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn.

In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances.

I for one would never, ever touch anything of that nature. I've known quite a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back.

It's one thing to blow your tits off with amphetamines, it's quite another to start meddling with your infinitely delicate brain chemistry.


all drugs work because they affect the brain. amphetamines are not easier on your brain chemistry than psylocibin or lsd. i´d say that amphetamines are the bigger burden for the brain.
Whether or not anything is a burden is always a question of moderation and circumstance. I would agree that amphetamines are more harmful though


Quote from: Lincoln6Echo on April 11, 2018, 08:03:27 PM
Check out this awsome piece of art:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/76bwgk/it_works_the_rotating_bitcoin_roller_coaster_desk/


unfortunatly picture from imgur doesn't work now. Undecided
There are 3d printing templates for this available as well.



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Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 11, 2018, 09:04:24 PM
Let's hope the singularity and Crispr-9 will sort you out in your lifetime.

I appreciate that. Thanks. All-in-all, I'm "doing pretty fucking OK" with the regimen I've stabilized on, but I do often lament to my doctors "I wish they could just delete the genes that cause depression and anxiety, because fuck everything about an untuned fight-or-flight response".

I don't like discussing stuff like this, mostly for fears of blowing OpSec, but have come to recognize that it's important to openly discuss mental health issues, rather than grow up in a time like I did, where things like that just weren't discussed due to stigma.

But, yes, bring on the CRISPR-Cas9 research ! Exciting times we live in.
Yeah I understand. There are way better places for such discussions anyways that don't risk any holes in your OpSec. And given that you've managed to retire early thanks to Bitcorn things can't be too bad. At least you always have the opportunity to play around, travel or eat.

And yes, the times are really exciting. I find it quite intruiging how the excitement, albeit coming and going in waves, seems to find new highs as time goes on. Just like the Bitcorn and other asset prices. What a strange world.


Quote from: sirazimuth on April 11, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
ditto...

and a word from the wise... dont ever touch opioids.... unless you are terminally ill... in which case indulge and enjoy your last days in comfort
..its what they were made for.
Part of me feels like giving them a whirl, since I've never had any issues with other supposedly highly addictive substances (amphetamines, alcohol, tobacco), all of which I cut just randomly decide to stop taking even after prolonged use. But meh, I'll leave that for when I'm too old to care. No reason to risk anything when I've still got decades ahead of me. They don't sound all that interesting either. If I wanted substance induced euphoria there seem to be far more intruiging options than opiates.



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Quote from: Hueristic on April 11, 2018, 11:00:54 PM
It was dirt cheap back in the day and that's why it's not around now I would think. there's not much profit margin on a drug that will give you 9 hours of fun with no side effects. I'm not sure why it is expensive now, it's an easy google to make and any indian can have up to (16 oz.? in raw form) on them for religious purposes at any time IIRC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mescaline

I believe from experience that LSD builds in the system and does not leave so in effect whenever you do it again you are adding to the total. AFA leading to death it is by your actions while you are on the drug not by the drug itself. I had someone intentionally OD me on it and then try to punk me off which left him in intensive care and he almost died and me in a cell in segregation being told that I had killed him. that was the scariest week of my life, thinking you murdered someone is not somewhere you want to be. He attacked me and I instantly saw red until a crowd of people were yelling at me to stop and then my eyes focused and all I could see was a pool of blood I was standing in and the heel of my boot in his head. The next and last time I did LSD was about 7 years after that and I ended up walking down a 4 lane highway towards the cars calling them on and they were all swerving around me. After a few I realized what I was doing and left the highway. So in essence I CANNOT do LSD ever again. I could write a book (Ive done things people just don't believe) but am just a lazy fuk. Smiley
You can get Cacti all around, they're easy to find, legal, and fairly cheap. Pure Mescaline HCl however is a different story. It takes quite some effort to extract it out of cacti, and I'm not sure that part would even be legal and hence drive up the cost due to effort and well, legality. It's still dirt cheap if you compare it to any other form of entertainment, but it's quite expensive compared to LSD or mushrooms. Roughly ten times more expensive. Which is still nothing if you consider the fact that LSD costs less than a movie ticket (while providing more value).

As far as LSD "building in the system" is concerned. It's definitely excreted by the body, so if we're talking about long-term accumulation of residue that's not going to happen. It's true that any death surrounding LSD would be due to the actions during the trip or other external factors though. You would have to try really hard to ingest a lethal dose of it and would probably experience a loss of self before you could even ingest that much.

And damn, I've known a guy who just randomly stripped naked in the middle of the street whilst on MDMA (and lots of weed). Never seen anybody start yelling at cars on a highway though. Whatever happened to dosing at home or in a forest though? Tongue



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Quote from: TERA2 on April 12, 2018, 12:58:21 AM
I understand your theory. However, the negativity in this experience was strictly physical and prior to ayahuasca I never had a bad experience on psychedelics in my life. I was always fearless and trying to go as deep as possible (hence trying Ayahuasca). However, something was extremely different about this ayahuasca experience. At about the 90 minute mark was when it was no longer fun and I noticed my body had gone very cold, my limbs felt dead, and I felt like I weighed 2000 poinds. Everything was buzzing like I had neuropathy and I saw the white tunnel of death (which kind of looks like a spinning particle accelerator). I needed to gasp for breath and could barely sit up. I was starving for oxygen, couldnt breathe right, and seeing stars. There were no more visuals - just the stars and static of someone who was being choked and passing out. I was certain I was dying. After realizing I wasn't getting to a hospital any time soon, I said my goodbyes to everyone and surrendered my life. I proceeded to sort of black out for the next 6 hours.

Again I dont remember any visuals or anything meaningful - just sort of on and off blacking out and praying for my life. Oh and vomiting no less than 100 times. At some point the ceremony was over and I was supposed to leave, but I wasnt ready and it took me another few hours in a sort of catatonic stupor to gather my composure to be able to walk out. I was asked about my visuals and if I saw any spirit animals, etc. and I said all I saw were some geometric patterns, which confused them. They asked over and over and I just pointed to their robes. They handed me a survey to fill out which I thought was hilarious because I couldnt read still. Looking back it doesn't seem like a psychedelic experience at all but rather just being knocked the fuck out and brain damaged. Maybe it was serotonin syndrome.

I also had trouble the first time I tried "weed" where a few minutes after taking several puffs because I wasn't getting high, I started seeing stars and then totally lost consciousness, and according to a friend I convulsed and threw fists at him. 10 minutes later I woke up from some deep dream not knowing what planet I was on, took minutes to regain my bearings, and felt like shit for the next 2 weeks. But that was nothing like the ayahuasca trip. I'm just wondering if my brain isn't able to metabolize certain drugs. Inbetween the weed and the ayahuasca, I did have a stellar career with some other classic drugs though
That sounds pretty terrifying. Another reason for me to stay away from Peru, as interesting as the environment sounds. Luckily safer substances and ROAs can go just as deep as ayahuasca minus the negative side effects.


Ayahuasca is pretty much a combination of two substances, DMT and a MAO inhibitor, and then some random stuff depending on what shaman you're with. The MAO-I basically allows the DMT to become active when ingested (as opposed to smoked or injected), but it also creates the risk of serotonin syndrome, the symptoms of which sound like what you're describing.

If that's what happened then the weed experience seems confusing though, since it can't trigger SS. I've had some "negative" experiences with weed to say the least, but I never really passed out. I got close once when my entire field of vision got filled up with tiny turquoise colored donuts and my legs felt like gummy snakes. Somehow managed to get home and just lay down. Other times I've paid too much attention to my breathing and/or heart rate and freaked myself out into believing I was dying, but never anything quite as extreme as what you've described. Absolutely zero negative experiences with harder drugs beyond the usual "did I take too much" or "was this a mistake" kind of thoughts that accompany the come-up of every great trip, at least for now (fingers crossed that won't change).

Have you talked to your doctor about the SS possibility regarding your current condition? Or was that unrelated?



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Quote from: infofront on April 12, 2018, 01:30:29 AM
Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.
I love humans. You just can't make this shit up.



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Quote from: TERA2 on April 12, 2018, 04:40:31 AM
Yes I would suspect the MAOI interacted with something to cause to SS. I might not have followed the preparation diet as strictly as I should have, especially considering the giant dose I was given which measured about 1 Liter when I now see that most people drink about a small teacup's worth. In addition, I have a genetic SNP called the "warrior gene" which already impairs my MAOA function.

By the way, in the indigenous culture, ayahuasca is not actually MAOI + DMT. It is strictly the Caapi plant (the MAOI) which has the name Ayahuasca. Other additives, such as a DMT source, or other things, may or may not be added. Most of the time they were not and it was just the Caapi. Also, in most healing ceremonies it was actually just the shaman who drank in order to channel energies to the patient and the patient did not even drink. I learned all of this after the fact. So apparently all us tourists are being taken for a ride.

I did not get ill with my current condition until 2 years after this event, so I'm not sure how I would bring up a correlation with my doctor, unless I want to hear that I'm suffering from a somatized PTSD disorder. Actually I'd be curious to do a SPECT scan of my brain and see if anything died.
I was aware that it was usually just the shaman drinking, but I had no idea that it was originally just about the MAOI. I thought that the caapi on its own didn't even have any real effects, at least nothing comparable to any psychedelic. But whatever makes money I guess. It does seem to be hardwired to supply what people demand.


Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 12, 2018, 10:31:12 AM
If I wasn't so sure $100k was right around the corner I would probably be a bit irritated by this.
Which corner?



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Quote from: Hueristic on April 12, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
OK, thats enough! fuk you can lose your whole day in this thread!


That's what makes the internet, and this thread in particular, so great. Can't wait until we can process even more information at once, with days seeming longer as a result.



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Quote from: explorer on April 12, 2018, 08:34:17 PM
How the hell am I supposed to get any work done on a day like this?

Work?

I believe he's referring to the practice of moving bits of matter around at or near the surface of the Earth.
It's a living.

Don't do it.  I've been there, and I promise you it is not worth the effort.  At least, do at your own discretion.  I believe I may participate again soon for a change of pace, but only for a Limited Time.  Traveling is expensive when you refuse to sell the bottom.
You could always sell the bottom to buy more Bitcorns.



842. Post 34568993 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 12, 2018, 09:20:52 PM


I really need a job where I get paid to smoke cigarettes and point at things.

and click?

btw who among you has access to the facebook virgin girl mail list? you know where they target girls for you... it cost a lot... but there must be some here with the means... did they come to propose you or you had to seek?

you know location + a psychological campaign?

then you just have to place your lambo at the location that the service provide... all the rest would have been worked... it's ez... just pay... building communities... you kna''' the big club...
I need to know this as well... for a friend, I mean for science... err, for a news article. Yeah. For legitimate reasons.



843. Post 34629901 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 13, 2018, 05:23:47 PM
Surely there are other forums where you can shout at each other about Russia?
What's your point?

probably referring to some rather long winded tldr previous post about Russians or some such thing.... idk ...tldr

no his point is simple, take some Vaseline, and enjoy your russian ass rape! that's it... total submission... to make a few temporary bucks, until the russians take everything you owned... btw still using telegram for crypto pumps? I always taught that it was fully backdoored by the russians, I still believe so, it's just a ruse...

and that the internationalists, russians collaborators are great people, they take great care of the planet or anything they touch.

they can't do wrong. this what I find the most pathetic with the westerners who have been mind conquered by russia. Putin can do no wrong, of course all opposition is silenced. and those low iq fell for it and worst are too stupid to realize it. And too weak to admit they have been played like muppets.

anyway, russians models are like most altcoins... they look promising young... and then... hehehe.



btw the pro putin should thread careful... if they are soo low iq to fall in the putin/soviet/globalists trap... better hodl... the rest... hehehe.

ps i hope this little meme make the post more readeable to the employees of putin... (at least most ukrainian hate you, most belarussian, most sunnis, most isrealis) I am sure you will enjoy later the generous fruits of this hate...
That's all women. All women hit the wall. Most of them hard.
Have you been to Asia?



844. Post 34629952 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Maicol792 on April 13, 2018, 05:37:16 PM
..... i'm thinking.... new ATH afther USA tax day on 17 April ... what do you think?  Wink
Obviously. But how long after the tax day?



845. Post 34637471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 13, 2018, 07:04:07 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.



846. Post 34642596 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 13, 2018, 07:47:48 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.
You are wrong. No other way to put it, you are just flat out wrong here.
The hordes of 30-40 year olds that look like teens to twenties would have me disagree with you on this one. They hold up better than their western counterparts when it comes to aging. At least in the more affluent countries as somebody else pointed out.



847. Post 34642952 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on April 13, 2018, 09:25:19 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.
You are wrong. No other way to put it, you are just flat out wrong here.
The hordes of 30-40 year olds that look like teens to twenties would have me disagree with you on this one. They hold up better than their western counterparts when it comes to aging. At least in the more affluent countries as somebody else pointed out.

As long as they don 't start eating fastjunkshitfood... . I saw highschool children getting obese very very fast. To the point that I did not recognize them after six months... . And unfortunately, just as with all bad western habbits, the Asian people adopt these  as a form of status symbols... .
Not obesity. Fat shaming is an integral part of their culture. I have seen less fat people in two years while in Japan than I see in a single day in the west (when I actually bother leaving my house).



848. Post 34642976 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 13, 2018, 09:27:20 PM
Time to dump this crap, will go sub 6K soon

So dump your coins (I doubt you own any however) and shut up. Nobody wants to hear your whining! These sub 6k, 5k, 3k, 2k predictions have been here for a while (since January?) yet we're not going anywhere lower...

You are yelling at a sock puppet.  Cheesy This account only posts during a dump and always predicts it will go much lower. I wouldn't doubt if it was some paid troll that posts here in an attempt by some bear whale to get some more panic sell volume.
With that kind of name it seems like a troll having fun more than anything else.



849. Post 34648156 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 13, 2018, 11:44:24 PM
fortune fuds
https://fortuneinsider.com/opinion/bitcoin-your-address-accepts-all-deposits-you-are-at-risk-for-scams/
I guess it's not possible to just simply return the transaction if it would indeed cause any unwanted trouble.



850. Post 34648815 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 14, 2018, 12:01:10 AM
I guess it's not possible to just simply return the transaction if it would indeed cause any unwanted trouble.

At least if someone knows my public key with BTC, people can only send me coins. I will happily keep them. Grin However, if I gave someone my bank account number and routing number, they can move funds in and out of my bank account.(Saving grace is that the transaction would be reversible. But what a nightmare if I didn't catch it in time and some of my legit transactions bounce.)
Who would be liable for tax payments on such a transaction (given that it was above the "gifting" limits)? And who would be required to report it? The recipient or the sender?



851. Post 34649585 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 14, 2018, 12:44:03 AM

The sender has to pay if the transfer value exceeds 14000 per year to an individual. However, if in the event, the sender doesn't pay, then the IRS looks to the recipient to pay.

Can you explain this ?  Taxes for property are payable on a taxable event. Normally receipt of property is not a taxable event.

The person disposing of the property has a taxable event for fair market value of the property at the time of disposal.  But that has nothing to do with the recipient.  

According to this, it appears no gift tax is owed until the donor gives away in excess of 5.49 million dollars in their life time. (Excluding the 14000 per year exemption per recipient.)
https://blog.taxact.com/gift-tax-do-i-have-to-pay-gift-tax-when-someone-gives-me-money/
It appears the IRS can go after the recipient if the donor doesn't pay. But this is clearly very rich people problems.
What scammer is going to send me 100s of BTC to try and fleece me for my very small stash for this to be a real problem? Clearly they would be an fool.
If the IRS had to go after the recipient in such a case, the recipient wouldn't get fucked by tax evasion laws for not walking up to the IRS himself would he? Since the sender is supposed to do that part and the recipient couldn't possibly know if the sender neglected his duty?



852. Post 34651067 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Syria airstrikes announced by the US, UK and France. Bitcorn jumps. Coincidence or confirminati illumed?



853. Post 34651613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: bones261 on April 14, 2018, 02:10:44 AM
Another bear trap? Gee, I have to stop shorting corn on Bitmex.  :D

Maybe if you guys would stop shorting out of fear we could go on with the bullishness... or, on second thought, we need those rekt shorts to pump it. Ok, whatever.

A short is always a pledge to buy later.  :D
Sell high, buy higher, ???, profit.



854. Post 34702786 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 14, 2018, 03:52:43 AM
carbs man, it's huge

the problem is beer
Japanese drink a lot too. But they eat half as much wheat as we do and make it up with rice instead. They also eat a lot of fermented foods (miso soup and pickled vegetables with just about every dish) and it's generally very easy to eat healthy and well over there. And their healthy food doesn't taste like ass either.

I never enjoyed eating plain rice or vegetables as much as in Japan, they really know how to prepare that shit. And there's always meat and/or fish as a main course as well. Really want to retire there for the food, but fuck their drug laws.
I might consider it if we get to fly Elon's rockets across the globe within sub 60 minutes, then I can just fly over to Amsterdam or the US for some leaf every other day while enjoying the foods and game centres of Japan during my daily life.
You also don't have to pay taxes on any income that you don't remit into Japan, so you could technically use a Bitcorn Visa to expenses without getting taxed into oblivion.



855. Post 34702993 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 14, 2018, 10:04:21 AM
carbs man, it's huge
the problem is beer

Dude. Tell me about it Sad I feel like a fat, bloated sack after all this beer I've been drinking lately. Feel totally unattractive at the moment.

Think I'm going to dry myself out next week, hit the gym more, and see if I can't lose a solid 10lbs, or convert some of it to muscle at least.

Fucking carbs.

THE WORST !

That, and the fact I've been loafing around playing Fortnite lately, hasn't helped me be more active...

Retirement is fucking awesome so far.
I love how this post reads like a contradiction while screaming truth at the same time.



856. Post 34715511 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on April 14, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it?
There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something.

When a female friend of mine who is half Swede and half Thai celebrated here 30 birthday here mom and dad was there too. The birthday girl looked 30 her dad, who is Swedish, also looked his age, but her mom looked like 25, I was amazed. And I have later noticed that some Asians seem to age very slowly up until quite a high age, at witch time they seem to age very rapidly and catches up with us Europeans.
Makes you wonder why no mAd ScIeNtIsT has figured out how to delay our aging process yet by just copy/pasting the Asians.



857. Post 34720970 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on April 15, 2018, 01:51:25 AM
always thought mcafee was a nutter.
after watching the
mcafee doc on netflix
I'm convinced he's not only a nutter, he got away with murder.

edit...oh look ^ speaking of nutters...
Well, he technically paid some dude a few grand (lol) for the murder. And the murdered guy poisoned his dogs so I don't feel bad for him either and think that he deserved what he got. If you fuck with helpless animals you deserve the worst the universe can throw at you.

Also, he somehow managed to go from >100m to 4m during the financial crisis, which makes his calls... questionable. Not that I'd be in the least surprised if we got anywhere close to or past 1m by the end of 2020 (with another 60-90% retrace).



858. Post 34777309 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on April 15, 2018, 03:12:21 AM

Also, he somehow managed to go from >100m to 4m during the financial crisis, which makes his calls... questionable.


His calls are total shit. Doge crashed ever since he made it his coin of the week on 8 Jan. Shorting his coin of the week will make you rich. Taking his advice will make you rekt.

Yeah I was watching his calls to see if there were any predictable patterns. But I ended up too lazy to accumulate random shit just to short his calls and sticked with my usual strategy instead. Still waiting to see how the ICOs he endorses turn out in the future. As far as I'm aware he takes a ~30% cut of the raised funds plus another 30% of the tokens for his shilling, and with those numbers I wouldn't expect too much due diligence on his part.



859. Post 34778499 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Biodom on April 15, 2018, 05:51:02 AM
I would like a place with nice weather Wink where I may eventually retire.
The whole ERTH thing started to get on my nerves. Too much crap all over.
I would like to have an ability to be left pretty much alone with my immediate family, yet maintain some western style comforts.
Too much to ask?
I'm thinking of planning out my own home/property that is entirely self-sustained for everything relevant.

Salmon pond/lake, perhaps shrimps if you can raise them "at home" somehow to feed the salmon (and myself). Have the water somehow create a cycle that cools the Bitcorn farm that is powered by state of the art solar panels with the excess heat warming a greenhouse with herbs and "herbs" all of which get watered by the lake-water cycle. Perhaps have some animals dicking around for eggs and meat (especially if private labs become a possibility). Then the obvious spa/pool/sauna, a gym, a home arcade, theatre, music room, a racing track(?) and other frivolous luxuries that are available and viable. Turns out private live-in chefs are relatively cheap too at 20 to 40k a year. And then just occasionally leave the property for travel.



860. Post 34780956 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Globb0 on April 15, 2018, 06:22:30 PM
I would like a place with nice weather Wink where I may eventually retire.
The whole ERTH thing started to get on my nerves. Too much crap all over.
I would like to have an ability to be left pretty much alone with my immediate family, yet maintain some western style comforts.
Too much to ask?
I'm thinking of planning out my own home/property that is entirely self-sustained for everything relevant.

Salmon pond/lake, perhaps shrimps if you can raise them "at home" somehow to feed the salmon (and myself). Have the water somehow create a cycle that cools the Bitcorn farm that is powered by state of the art solar panels with the excess heat warming a greenhouse with herbs and "herbs" all of which get watered by the lake-water cycle. Perhaps have some animals dicking around for eggs and meat (especially if private labs become a possibility). Then the obvious spa/pool/sauna, a gym, a home arcade, theatre, music room, a racing track(?) and other frivolous luxuries that are available and viable. Turns out private live-in chefs are relatively cheap too at 20 to 40k a year. And then just occasionally leave the property for travel.

Sounds good, plus some kind of cloaking mechanism?

Started to dream when we were higher up, its not that far away again now.   Smiley





I was thinking of a fenced off property with walls by courtesy of Mexico. But a cloaking device would be much better. Still have to figure that out. Not sure how to best ensure safety without having to get too involved with it myself.
Right now I'm mostly interested in stuff like those "full glass" solar panels that are currently too expensive to be viable (they reflect certain wavelengths of light within a double wall and eventually turn it into electricity). How pretty would a fully transparent green house be that lights itself?

Perhaps a solar panel pavilion in the middle of the lake, through the floor of which you could see your home raised sushi still swimming around. Of course it would light up during night too, after all it's just a bunch of solar panels, surely plastering them with LEDs wouldn't be that much of a jump at that point.

But yeah, quite curious to see how absurd of a property one can build with thorough self-planning as opposed to just buying a random house or paying an architect for "ready made" solutions.

Always open for more suggestions, be it regarding security, practicability, fun or aesthetics.



861. Post 34781082 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: RoomBot on April 15, 2018, 06:23:00 PM

Also, he somehow managed to go from >100m to 4m during the financial crisis, which makes his calls... questionable.


His calls are total shit. Doge crashed ever since he made it his coin of the week on 8 Jan. Shorting his coin of the week will make you rich. Taking his advice will make you rekt.

Yeah I was watching his calls to see if there were any predictable patterns. But I ended up too lazy to accumulate random shit just to short his calls and sticked with my usual strategy instead. Still waiting to see how the ICOs he endorses turn out in the future. As far as I'm aware he takes a ~30% cut of the raised funds plus another 30% of the tokens for his shilling, and with those numbers I wouldn't expect too much due diligence on his part.

You guys missed the memo!

McAfee's account was hacked.  He says he NEVER does the Coin of the Week.
I would say that too after such a colossal failure. Initially he was inviting people to hack him, then he "got hacked briefly and regained access" and now it's him never having done any calls? How convenient after nothing took off.

I'm not sure what is really going with him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was just far too doused in bath salts.


Quote from: explorer on April 15, 2018, 06:31:22 PM
I would like a place with nice weather Wink where I may eventually retire.
The whole ERTH thing started to get on my nerves. Too much crap all over.
I would like to have an ability to be left pretty much alone with my immediate family, yet maintain some western style comforts.
Too much to ask?
I'm thinking of planning out my own home/property that is entirely self-sustained for everything relevant.

Salmon pond/lake, perhaps shrimps if you can raise them "at home" somehow to feed the salmon (and myself). Have the water somehow create a cycle that cools the Bitcorn farm that is powered by state of the art solar panels with the excess heat warming a greenhouse with herbs and "herbs" all of which get watered by the lake-water cycle. Perhaps have some animals dicking around for eggs and meat (especially if private labs become a possibility). Then the obvious spa/pool/sauna, a gym, a home arcade, theatre, music room, a racing track(?) and other frivolous luxuries that are available and viable. Turns out private live-in chefs are relatively cheap too at 20 to 40k a year. And then just occasionally leave the property for travel.

Sounds good, plus some kind of cloaking mechanism?

Started to dream when we were higher up, its not that far away again now.   Smiley






Do not neglect the WO guest facilities! 
How does one go about this without fucking their OpSec though?



862. Post 34789438 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
This is always how it goes. Visionaries and geniuses Build Stuff, and then They come in and take it over.

Years ago I saw my first pink laptop in the local shop. That's when I knew the age of technology doubling in power and effectiveness every few years was at an end. And sure enough.

I was clued in that Tech was peaking when the iPhone didn't change at all after several generations, and my five old laptop doesn't do anything less than a current one.

Now they've moved on to useless things like smart watches, wireless doorbells, and in-home spy pods.

And don't even get me starting on the IoT, "Internet of Things". God what snake oil. /facepalm
At least IBM seems fairly confident in quantum computing hitting the mainstream industry within 5ish years. So we're not too far off from actually interesting new tech developments.

Still excited, but impatient as hell. Need a fast forward button for life (one that doesn't drain your life span).



863. Post 34791430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2018, 08:31:04 PM
At least IBM seems fairly confident in quantum computing hitting the mainstream industry within 5ish years. So we're not too far off from actually interesting new tech developments.

Still excited, but impatient as hell. Need a fast forward button for life (one that doesn't drain your life span).

I don't mean to offend (although this likely will), but I see you've drank the Koolaid. You will be disappointed. IBM is the #1 Repeat Offender.

One days years from now, you'll look back and see the continuous Tech cycle pattern for what it actually is: all hype and bullshit designed and marketed to get people to spend money, and to create tech jobs and departments out of thin air, always building future solutions looking for a problem that doesn't exist. Hardly any of it really improves human life to any real degree.
I don't think a person that could successfully offend me exists, so no worries about that.

But alas, while there's a lot of empty hype on the tech (and every other) front it's patently false to classify it as just hype and bullshit. We literally went from being fucking monkeys in pretty houses to having everything that we have today in just about one generation. If you showed even 0,01% of what we have today to people from 100 years ago they'd burn you at the stake for witchcraft, and people from roughly one generation ago would put you in an asylum for making any such claims.

And progress does without a doubt accelerate as everything new can be combined with everything old to create new things, of which some will be further new things that can be mixed and matched with other innovations.

Hence, a snowballing process is not just simply observable, but objectively undeniable.

Thus I predict that you will be the one looking back to this day, years from now, no longer recognizing the world that you live in.



864. Post 34792173 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2018, 09:01:03 PM
Thus I predict that you will be the one looking back to this day, years from now, no longer recognizing the world that you live in.

You're right I won't. Because if the Tech industry has its way, all human workers will be replaced by AI and androids. And we'll all be broke and homeless, can't afford healthcare, and trying to work the measly 'gig economy' jobs that are left.
I never understood the argument against automation. Why would anyone want a paid job if there are tools that can take care of it? Are people really so desperately helpless that they won't be able to lead a happy life without some superior telling them what to do with 70% of their wake time?

You also seem to forget the fact that production costs slowly but surely converge towards zero. And since money is unlikely to disappear even in a world of virtual abundance you won't see masses of people being broke and homeless, because they would otherwise riot and go to war against those that have.

There will either be a UBI (which could be pulled off today since fiat is a joke anyways and merely an illusion given the levels of production going on nowadays as opposed to the old times of hyperinflation and scarcity), or people will be "paid" for their data.

As the data will be more valuable to those with significant resources than the production of smart phones and food would cost them there'll be an incentive to just spoon-feed those who don't really want anything more from life than being a consumer drone (the majority of people).

Can't make any predictions on the health care side of things since I don't know jackshit about medicine, but that seems to be progressing remarkably well too.



Sure, the world won't be perfect and there'll be many potential problems. But as always, you will have a choice. Will you play along as a mindless zombie the same way corporate slaves do today? Will you go "offshore"? Will you go creative (research, art, music, business)? Play the usual power games?

Plenty of options, and certainly more accessible than ever before. This trend has been going on for as long as humans exist and it's not going to stop anytime soon, bar rogue asteroid impacts.



865. Post 34793120 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2018, 09:17:07 PM
I never understood the argument against automation. Why would anyone want a paid job if there are tools that can take care of it? Are people really so desperately helpless that they won't be able to lead a happy life without some superior telling them what to do with 70% of their wake time?

You also seem to forget the fact that production costs slowly but surely converge towards zero. And since money is unlikely to disappear even in a world of virtual abundance you won't see masses of people being broke and homeless, because they would otherwise riot and go to war against those that have.

There will either be a UBI (which could be pulled off today since fiat is a joke anyways and merely an illusion given the levels of production going on nowadays as opposed to the old times of hyperinflation and scarcity), or people will be "paid" for their data.

UBI would lead to a Socialistic society, where governments would increase personal income taxes to first 60%, then 70%, then 80%. And they would increasing tell/regulate you how you can spend your remaining money. And they will tell you where you can and can't live. That is not a life. Corporations would be zombie corps and industries run by AI and androids, and human involvement would be minimized to merely the Executive Elites. Hyperinflation would inevitably ensue worldwide.
Even the executive elites would be replaced at that point. And I don't see a problem with that. I'm not sure if I've posted this on WO or not either, but I'm all for just simply merging with AI as this will make the AI threat irrelevant by "upgrading" humans. Given the alternative I would be surprised if this did not happen. There'll be some religious and moral/ethics folks that will oppose to this, but they can just remain as normal humans in their own societies for all I care.

Regarding the UBI, that is indeed a concern (the socialist government part, not so much the "zombie" part which I don't care about as I see no remarkable difference between humans, animals, and human or superhuman level AI). And there's surely going to be some opposition to such forms of UBI as well.

But with corporations buying user data we would end up with a society that has a functional UBI, but not in a way that governments control it. Although it's arguable whether or not corporations controlling your income is any better.

However, that's just the basis for survival and there's always demand for other things that an individual can choose to learn to supply to increase their wealth. That wealth will also create more freedoms and potential independance of UBI/selling your data. Overall, I'd still judge either as an upgrade to what we have now, where survival is still a very real issue. It's not like offshore banking will disappear or not be replaced by Bitcoin/Monero either.


Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
The answer is to skill up in skills needed by the automation software industry.  If you cant beat them, join them.  

But what happens when AI starts writing the software on their own, and better than a human could?
By that point AI would be capable of optimizing production processes and research in such a drastic fashion that survival and entertainment would be essentially free for all.



866. Post 34793876 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

No brainer. A dalek.



867. Post 34795419 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: explorer on April 15, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
At least IBM seems fairly confident in quantum computing hitting the mainstream industry within 5ish years. So we're not too far off from actually interesting new tech developments.

Still excited, but impatient as hell. Need a fast forward button for life (one that doesn't drain your life span).

I don't mean to offend (although this likely will), but I see you've drank the Koolaid. You will be disappointed. IBM is the #1 Repeat Offender.

One days years from now, you'll look back and see the continuous Tech cycle pattern for what it actually is: all hype and bullshit designed and marketed to get people to spend money, and to create tech jobs and departments out of thin air, always building future solutions looking for a problem that doesn't exist. Hardly any of it really improves human life to any real degree.
I don't think a person that could successfully offend me exists, so no worries about that.

But alas, while there's a lot of empty hype on the tech (and every other) front it's patently false to classify it as just hype and bullshit. We literally went from being fucking monkeys in pretty houses to having everything that we have today in just about one generation. If you showed even 0,01% of what we have today to people from 100 years ago they'd burn you at the stake for witchcraft, and people from roughly one generation ago would put you in an asylum for making any such claims.

And progress does without a doubt accelerate as everything new can be combined with everything old to create new things, of which some will be further new things that can be mixed and matched with other innovations.

Hence, a snowballing process is not just simply observable, but objectively undeniable.

Thus I predict that you will be the one looking back to this day, years from now, no longer recognizing the world that you live in.

The thing about exponential growth, be it crypto, population, tech, whatever -- never forget what the backside looks like.  Nothing goes up forever, the only question is: How High?  then comes the crash.  
Things stop growing once something else replaces them and continues the exponential growth. Horse carriages got displaced by cars, trains and planes. Symbolic language on slabs of stone by primitive forms of written word on paper by digital data. Theatres by TV by internet.

If you really look at the full picture you'll find that the exponential trends never stop, they just relocate.



868. Post 34799750 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: yefi on April 15, 2018, 11:28:00 PM
I'm not sure if I've posted this on WO or not either, but I'm all for just simply merging with AI as this will make the AI threat irrelevant by "upgrading" humans. Given the alternative I would be surprised if this did not happen. There'll be some religious and moral/ethics folks that will oppose to this, but they can just remain as normal humans in their own societies for all I care.

Those societies will end up looking like ant colonies to the posthumans, so you sure as hell want to be on the side of the machines.
I really can't wait to see what reality will seem like when humans are "just" ants. Wonder if we'll really become machines though, with Crispr-CAS-9 being a thing I'd imagine more of a hybrid.

Also, with communication and information processing speeds decreasing drastically, will post-humans even be distinguishable individuals in the far future? Or will the collective become an actual sentient being (e.g. lots of post-humans combining into an individual brain)?



869. Post 34799857 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 16, 2018, 12:02:07 AM
https://twitter.com/LeahWald1/status/985665491325804545
The Bitcoin Jig 🎶 🚀 While in North Carolina last week with best friends, we sat around a bonfire 🔥 picked up our banjos, and wrote a song for the love of #Bitcoin
smash that like button
Nice trash BCash reference



870. Post 34806611 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

I love this thread.

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871. Post 34809748 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: TERA2 on April 16, 2018, 05:05:21 AM
Bitcoin does not solve A SINGLE PROBLEM that physical silver and gold does not already solve better.
Nope. Here's a problem Bitcoin solves that silver doesnt. I want to hold something that isnt a physical object and that I dont have to have physically guarded. The silver can be be lost or stolen by force or by natural disaster, etc. Its also heavy and impossible to conceal when travelling by airplane.
Silver isn't a limited resource either. Nor is it practicable to carry around enough of it to buy a house, or even a car. Heck, I wouldn't even want to pay a new TV in 10 kilograms worth of silver.



872. Post 34809934 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 16, 2018, 05:35:29 AM
Bitcoin does not solve A SINGLE PROBLEM that physical silver and gold does not already solve better.
Nope. Here's a problem Bitcoin solves that silver doesnt. I want to hold something that isnt a physical object and that I dont have to have physically guarded. The silver can be be lost or stolen by force or by natural disaster, etc. Its also heavy and impossible to conceal when travelling by airplane.

Was going to say not to quote the troll but another problem gold and silver has is my situation as a digital nomad traveling the world. How do I pack up all of my belongings and relocate to my next country (as I tend to do) with all of my gold in my suitcase?

The amount of bitcoins I have I can protect with some steel plates and information in my head. I can carry them through even countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam without worrying about them getting stolen or having security confiscate it at the airport. To carry the amount of gold or silver equivalent to how much I have in bitcoins...well, actually I literally could not carry it.

I have no idea how I would pay my hosting service every month with gold. Or buy my plane tickets, book my hotel rooms, buy stuff on Amazon, etc.

I haven't needed to open a bank account here in Tahiti thanks to Bitcoin...I don't need to go to the rip off exchanges in the countries I visit. The rate charged at the local exchange from USD to CPF is literally 20%.
Is it possible to own property in some of the Western/Asian countries as a digital nomad? E.g. could I own two or three homes and just rotate them (without being liable for taxes)?



873. Post 34812539 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 16, 2018, 06:03:02 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.



874. Post 34812635 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 16, 2018, 06:37:57 AM
Sure.

The US has a problem in that it’s citizens still have to pay tax on their global income even if they are not US tax residents.  This is a uniquely US problem afaik.  

Giving up US citizenship for something like NZ citizenship is one obvious route.  You can buy NZ citizenship through an investment scheme. 

https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/investing-in-nz/visas/investor-visa

Giving up your US citizenship comes with an exit fee plus you have to pay taxes on all of your assets as if you sold them right then (even without selling it).
In my book Bitcoin is still pretty cheap, so getting the fuck out of the US would be my highest priority before the exit tax multiplies by another factor of 10 to 100. What's the point in being a digital nomad if you're still paying taxes on anything over 102k (you could freelance and get paid in Bitcoins)?



875. Post 34813882 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 16, 2018, 06:44:05 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

I think in Thailand you have to be a citizen to buy...you can lease, which is what most foreigners do. Actually most marry a local and the wife buys the property.
The citizen part was what I was worried about. Seems to be that case everywhere. I know that foreigners can buy property in Japan, but it seems like that is only for commercial purposes (such as renting out). Suppose using family could work though (in case there are no decent countries that allow non-citizens to own property for private use).



876. Post 34814421 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: nikauforest on April 16, 2018, 07:07:41 AM
The McAfee Curve
Interactive chart with the math behind it.

Pretty interesting have a look.

https://fnordprefekt.de/

There is a discussion on r/bitcoin on reddit.
The date lines up way too conveniently with an exact $1,000,000. Seems like he tried to fit a curve that would do just that as opposed to crunching numbers.


Edit: It's also a very basic curve and doesn't seem to have any hint of point set topology as he claimed numerous times. Although that might be due to point set topology just being topology and thus the basis of just about all Math and certainly analysis. In which case there would be no reason to bring it up in the first place.

I'm not a topologist though, so I wouldn't know if there is any reason to specifically mention "point set" topology.

In either case, if this website is based on his "models" I fail to see the analytical rigour that he touted so proudly.



877. Post 34815166 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: RoomBot on April 16, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
The McAfee Curve
Interactive chart with the math behind it.

Pretty interesting have a look.

https://fnordprefekt.de/

There is a discussion on r/bitcoin on reddit.
The date lines up way too conveniently with an exact $1,000,000. Seems like he tried to fit a curve that would do just that as opposed to crunching numbers.


Edit: It's also a very basic curve and doesn't seem to have any hint of point set topology as he claimed numerous times. Although that might be due to point set topology just being topology and thus the basis of just about all Math and certainly analysis. In which case there would be no reason to bring it up in the first place.

I'm not a topologist though, so I wouldn't know if there is any reason to specifically mention "point set" topology.

In either case, if this website is based on his "models" I fail to see the analytical rigour that he touted so proudly.

Very basic curve, in fact, it's a straight line.
It's a nonlinear curve if you zoom out far enough. Speaking of which, I once had a Math teacher that insisted that linear functions are any line, not just straight lines. Not sure if he was retarded or if he just didn't like my attitude. Probably both.



878. Post 34818218 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on April 16, 2018, 07:52:01 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

I think in Thailand you have to be a citizen to buy...you can lease, which is what most foreigners do. Actually most marry a local and the wife buys the property.
The citizen part was what I was worried about. Seems to be that case everywhere. I know that foreigners can buy property in Japan, but it seems like that is only for commercial purposes (such as renting out). Suppose using family could work though (in case there are no decent countries that allow non-citizens to own property for private use).

About 9 of 10 people, i know, lost everything this way, in Thailand. Don´t do it !
It´s a wonderfull country, but just "rent" there.

My Plan: Retirement Visa, and if they decide to open a Karaoke right opposite (which happened to me, complete with a gun waving Thai, never ran faster in my life), i´ll just move.




I'm not interested in Thailand (already lived there for a while and wouldn't want to retire there). I'd like a house in two different Western countries (or one Western country and Japan) for tax purposes though, just not sure how viable that strategy is.



879. Post 34822245 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Icygreen on April 16, 2018, 09:07:02 AM


**except fire ants (op pls nerf)



880. Post 34824117 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 16, 2018, 09:18:50 AM
**except fire ants (op pls nerf)

Fire Ants are the worst fucking things to come across (besides black widows, tarantulas, or brown recluses) when gardening or working on your lawn, HOLY SHIT I'll tell you hwat.

I make those fuckers pay by making it snow with ant killer powder, and the mounds are usually completely dead and dried out within a couple days.

Feel like Chemical Ali or some shit when I go into my pest-killing rage-state. Rick finds it endlessly amusing how I get a vicious mean-streak when it comes to dealing with stuff like that.

I once got the bright idea to pour a pot of hot boiling water on an ant mound. Fucked their shit up reel gud, but also killed the grass Sad Oops. So yeah, chemical shit from now on I guess.

Oh yeah. One of my buddies in Austin is doing major renovations on their house, and the uncovered a huge tarantula colony living under their house.

Good times.
Burn that fucking house, it's no longer habitable.



881. Post 34827990 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Icygreen on April 16, 2018, 09:47:25 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

Yup, 6 months here 6 there is pretty ideal. I've been doing perpetual summer for the better part of 20 years and its worked out very well.
Depending on the country, ownership of land or house can get tricky, especially in SE Asia it has a particular set of headaches. I prefer to rent/lease long term in Asia which also gives me the option to pick up and go much easier if needed and own in the countries which I have citizenship.   
Sounds perfect. Turns out Japan has 6 month long recreational Visas as well, so with that I might just be set. Next steps, figuring out the paper work and finding a suitable second long-term base.



882. Post 34900638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Icygreen on April 17, 2018, 01:52:34 AM
work illegally

something is seriously wrong with any system where work is ever illegal

We're also still plugging away at a tried and failed system,  democracy and capitalism. So ya, things look kinda grim in the forecast while the majority of us either consent to doom or try to find the best loophole to escape cope with it.    
So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.



883. Post 34901021 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on April 17, 2018, 05:08:39 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

I think in Thailand you have to be a citizen to buy...you can lease, which is what most foreigners do. Actually most marry a local and the wife buys the property.
The citizen part was what I was worried about. Seems to be that case everywhere. I know that foreigners can buy property in Japan, but it seems like that is only for commercial purposes (such as renting out). Suppose using family could work though (in case there are no decent countries that allow non-citizens to own property for private use).

Sweden doesn't care about your citizenship, anyone can own property, even people without citizenship. You would have to pay real estate tax, but that tax had a cap of 914 USD last year. And in many cases you pay less, it's adjusted for inflation yearly. And everybody speaks english.
Great to know, thanks! That leaves me with at least two viable countries to stay in with my own property and at least two more (of interest) in which I can at the very least rent without any hassle. Going to have to get off my lazy ass and hit up some lawyer that specializes in international tax policies sometime.



884. Post 34903706 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2018, 08:23:44 AM
Great to know, thanks! That leaves me with at least two viable countries to stay in with my own property and at least two more (of interest) in which I can at the very least rent without any hassle. Going to have to get off my lazy ass and hit up some lawyer that specializes in international tax policies sometime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_earned_income_exclusion
That's not an issue from me since I'm not from the US (and certainly would leave if I was despite the exit tax).



885. Post 34945652 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 17, 2018, 02:11:30 PM

So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
Bank runs are only a problem because banks lend out 50 times more than they have.
Which would not be a problem either if tax dollars didn't bail those fruits out.



886. Post 34945800 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: infofront on April 17, 2018, 03:10:55 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.

Hate speech is still legal and protected speech.
And it still ends your career, even if it's a scientifically founded and rational argument that has nothing to do with actual hate. See the fired Google engineer for one very prominent example of this fact. And fuck knows how many went under the radar thanks to the liberal hive mind.



887. Post 34947301 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: infofront on April 17, 2018, 06:34:28 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.

Hate speech is still legal and protected speech.
And it still ends your career, even if it's a scientifically founded and rational argument that has nothing to do with actual hate. See the fired Google engineer for one very prominent example of this fact. And fuck knows how many went under the radar thanks to the liberal hive mind.

There's really nothing unique about hate speech though. Being vocal about one's unpopular and/or inflammatory opinions is often detrimental to one's career.
Yeah, sure. If you're being a cunt you deserve what's coming at you. But the Google engineer that was fired didn't even get anywhere close to what any rational being could ever even jokingly consider as hate speech. And I'd be genuinely shocked if he was the only one who lost his job (and got blocked from getting other jobs in the area) for not participating in the 60 gender horseshit while being civil about it.



888. Post 34949928 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on April 17, 2018, 07:10:35 PM
There's really nothing unique about hate speech though. Being vocal about one's unpopular and/or inflammatory opinions is often detrimental to one's career.

Political correctness enforced in private firms is even more absurd than elsewhere, given that they are (were) supposed to mind about the budget and efficiency above all. But now this madhouse is the new normal. meh.




Has been since investing in public companies became a thing. With investors and PR having such a massive impact on finances there's massive pressure to just play along with and please the masses, which tend to be incompetent. That's why I would never go public with my own companies, if I fail then I'll own up to it. But I don't want anybody to nag me about my business. At the end of the day, humanity gets what it deserves. I'm just surprised that people completely fail to see the obvious flaws in their thoughts and actions even today.



889. Post 34950545 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 17, 2018, 07:30:27 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

The problem is the word 'racism' has been changing definitions at least colloquially.

Where it used to mean the belief that one race is superior to another, it now includes people making racial stereotypes.

Plus why on earth should racism be illegal?  A belief should not be illegal.  Acts should be.
Not to mention that there are not insignificant cultural differences between different races. Along with which come certain cliches. Only a mentally ill person would ask for reality to be ignored, or even be outlawed to acknowledge and talk about.



890. Post 35025264 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 18, 2018, 07:34:15 AM
Come on, someone post some classic TA, please. This kind of OT is distracting, irritating and plain disgusting.
Didn't you mention not too long ago that you had met tribal people, that they were different from us, and that it was fascinating?

Reality is what it is. Being disgusted with reality is needlessly limiting.
Everyone who directly speaks out against an IQ to race correlation (of any kind) as racism is the true racist, and a hypocrite at that. If people really cared about the "less fortunate" they would be looking for every straw they could possibly grasp on to help them. And victimizing people instead of empowering them has never helped anybody and merely creates more problems. As such, I can't take anyone serious who gets emotional as soon as any mention of race is involved.
I've been subject to very real racism, to the point of physical bullying, and I still don't see anything wrong with talking about it nor do I feel like a victim (to anything other than a bunch of retards that would've probably found something other than race as a trigger anyways).

Either way, it seems pretty obvious that there are cultural differences that, when amplified throughout a large amount of people, materialize as all sorts of benefits and problems. Anyone who denies this is being dishonest or hasn't bothered to observe reality. Whether or not this is down to DNA, just the culture, or a mix of both (and likely more) is something that research should be working hard to figure out.
But instead the left turns it into a racist talking point in order to fish for votes. (The right could certainly do a better job at spinning the story in a way that wouldn't trigger all the snowflakes though, society is all about selling ideas and products to others after all.)



891. Post 35025620 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 18, 2018, 11:51:30 AM
What do we mean when we talk about race? Genetics, culture or a combination? Is it possible to quantify the nature/nurture relevance ratio? How about a child born from a black and a Jew, raised in Asia by a foster family? Which "race" do they get stamped on their Interwebz passport?
Those are precisely the cases that would have to be studied rigorously. They'd give much needed insight on how much of a person's traits are genetic and how much is cultural. But unfortunately science is censored so hard that it's impossible to do any meaningful research, especially when it's the kind that doesn't promise near-immediate profits.



892. Post 35026370 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: infofront on April 18, 2018, 04:36:36 PM

In all honesty this why I thought you were a r0ach alt, before I knew you. Slightly too Nazi-sympathetic for me. Anyway I've learned to not be 'triggered', as the kids say. Trolls will always take the temperature of the room and play just below the line.

One thing I've observed is that the European posters are triggered a lot more easily by the neo-nazi-ist stuff. The posters who I know/suspect to be American on this thread don't seem to be bothered. Maybe there's still some collective trauma among Europeans after basically having half the continent destroyed.

Or it could be that we're a bunch of Trump-voting nutjobs.
Can confirm the collective European (maybe, but at least German) trauma.


Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on April 18, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
I only care about bitcoin everything else seems insignificant

Politics makes me uneasy. I got lost somewhere between civil rights and social justice. Now I figure I'll just let the kids do their thing. Is that bad? Can I just opt out?
Sure you can opt out, I did that for the most part of my life unless somebody engaged me (I don't turn people away and entertain their arguing points as long as they don't get physical). There's so much to do in this world that you could focus on just a single thing and never finish exploring, so just pick what feels right to you and don't forget to occassionally check back if things might've changed. We have zero obligation to anything or anyone on this floating donut.



893. Post 35027858 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Anon136 on April 18, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
I only care about bitcoin everything else seems insignificant

Pretty much, sitting here day after day waiting for 2021 ish when my stash will make me rich. Running two companies is boring & unfulfilling. I want to travel, fuck hookers & snort copious amounts of cocaine.

I highly doubt you will find that very fulfilling for very long.
The travel part might work, accompanied with a hobby that requires constant striving (e.g. learning any arbitrary skill or set of skills and pushing it to its limits). The latter part sounds pretty boring.



894. Post 35030628 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: mike4001 on April 18, 2018, 07:22:11 PM
BTC dominance is falling again :-/

down to 40,7% from ~44-45%
Irrelevant statistic due to the amount of altcoins in circulation (>>>1000:1 for #alts : #Bitcoin).



895. Post 35034725 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: the artful bodger on April 18, 2018, 08:14:56 PM
Smoke pot


cannot OD on pot, or die, or get disease or anything else


Not on old fashioned pot. However I heard about people dying from some types of spice, but it's a hundred times stronger than regular pot.
Spice is not pot. It's chemical analogues that are unresearched and often well known for causing serious problems (all the way up to death).

Pot on the other hand is harmless. I ate two bars of chocolate with a friend once (one each). One bar had 16 segments of which one segment was enough to floor a casual smoker. Needless to say, we were pretty much immobilized and just spent the following ~12h+ listening to music and watching Youtube. Would definitely repeat.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 18, 2018, 08:23:50 PM
Who cares if it’s legal or not?
I can’t imagine a life without social drug use.
Any sane person would care about legality when it comes to the Middle East or some parts of Asia. Their drug laws are completely and utterly insane and only a complete moron would play with that kind of fire.



896. Post 35035912 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Syke on April 18, 2018, 08:52:15 PM
Pot on the other hand is harmless. I ate two bars of chocolate with a friend once (one each). One bar had 16 segments of which one segment was enough to floor a casual smoker. Needless to say, we were pretty much immobilized and just spent the following ~12h+ listening to music and watching Youtube. Would definitely repeat.

Same here. I ate a whole bag of pot popcorn. I was gone for a solid 24h. After, no hangover or anything bad. Not a fan of smoking so I stick with edibles. 100% safe stuff.
Edibles aren't obtainable here, unless I make them myself which I am too lazy to for non-special occasions. And smoking (hand rolled) has this social ritual kind of feeling to it that I quite enjoy. But probably stick to edibles for the most part if I lived in the US though. Especially with the ridiculous amounts of variety available these days.



897. Post 35038626 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: pfrtlpfmpf on April 18, 2018, 09:13:28 PM
Pot on the other hand is harmless. I ate two bars of chocolate with a friend once (one each). One bar had 16 segments of which one segment was enough to floor a casual smoker. Needless to say, we were pretty much immobilized and just spent the following ~12h+ listening to music and watching Youtube. Would definitely repeat.

Same here. I ate a whole bag of pot popcorn. I was gone for a solid 24h. After, no hangover or anything bad. Not a fan of smoking so I stick with edibles. 100% safe stuff.

I ate 4 mushrooms at the fullmoon parzty, in koh phangan, and came out of it allright. I think, but i don´t know  Smiley
inb4 you're still at the fullmoon party. Roll Eyes



898. Post 35041700 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 18, 2018, 10:34:53 PM
super lie, smokes and fumes aren't healty... otherwise I agree... you almost have to replace the full blood with raw thc to get death... and even, I bet that water in the blood will kill faster than thc Smiley.

Vaporizing marijuanas is the way to go. No cancerous byproducts are released due to combustion.

In theory.
I wonder how much research has gone into checking out all the folks that pretty much chain smoked into high age. I don't enjoy smoking (tobacco) in general, especially not in large quantities. But some people seem to deal just fine with it. I've been wondering to what extent internal well-being correlated with longevity regardless of healthy lifestyle choices. Japanese smoke like crazy too and they're one of the longest living demographics in the world. Wish science was as rigorous and inquisive as it should be.

If I ever get filthy rich (billions kind of rich) I'll look into funding all kinds of research that corporate shills wouldn't normally advocate for (cause omgerdmuhprofitz).



899. Post 35041831 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on April 18, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Racial differences, the basic cliffnotes version:

Whities are pretty smart. We have good IQ.
Hispanics have lower IQ than whities.
Black americans lower.
African africans even lower on account of not being contaminated with white blood.
Certain asian countries have higher IQ than uses, especially china and japan.
Jews have the highest IQ of all.

IQ correlates with lifetime earning potential. That is, jews own a highly disproportionate amount of all the wealth in the world. Blacks will always be poor.

In addition different races are better at certain things than others. For example, the fastest olympic runners are mostly black. Comes from running from lions and after gazelles. Chinks are smarter than whites, but less creative. And asians have faster reflexes than the rest of us.

There is no controversy over any of this among professionals, it's all pure biology. There are evolutionary explanations for all of it and it can all be measured. And yet it is called racist and if I had a normal people job this post could get me fired. If I was german or british I could be jailed for it.

I am not sure if you are right or not... but... I think it is not very smart to SAY all that... more so if you don't refer to the scientific studies where all that is proved beyond any possible doubt. Yes, in some countries it could even be considered racist speech. Not that I fucking care, but I don't know the need of doing it.
Why would I spend literal days getting all that together when not one of you will spend weeks and months reading and understanding it?

This is the internet, any information can be found for those who wish to find it. Those who are interested will study the topic on their own, and the mental children who can't tolerate reality will carry on with their tantrums regardless.

When you make blanket "cliff notes" statements like that (and this has nothing to do with whether I may agree with them or not...hell.. they may indeed have some truth to them for all I phucking know) but you need citation links to back them up, and I'm sure you know that.
Then again this is just a no holds barred random internet thread (lately anyway) complete with random delusional posters,
 so ateotd maybe it doesn't phucking matter anyway...


This goes to both sides though. If you're going to complain against the contents of one's argument due to a lack of citations you should be providing a counter argument with relevant citations yourself. Can't expect things out of others that you won't provide yourself.

I personally lean into the camp of "listen to anyone willing to talk" as long as they don't become (physically) hostile or start repeating themselves. And even then I try to make sure that they're not putting nuance that I'm just missing and thus dismissing as repetitive.



900. Post 35044207 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 18, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
I only care about bitcoin everything else seems insignificant

Pretty much, sitting here day after day waiting for 2021 ish when my stash will make me rich. Running two companies is boring & unfulfilling. I want to travel, fuck hookers & snort copious amounts of cocaine.

I highly doubt you will find that very fulfilling for very long.
The travel part might work, accompanied with a hobby that requires constant striving (e.g. learning any arbitrary skill or set of skills and pushing it to its limits). The latter part sounds pretty boring.
I have this idea about taking up archery at some point. Probably won't, but it's as good a hobby as any.
It's fun, can recommend.

Quote from: Ibian on April 18, 2018, 11:49:55 PM
Who cares if it’s legal or not?
I can’t imagine a life without social drug use.
Any sane person would care about legality when it comes to the Middle East or some parts of Asia. Their drug laws are completely and utterly insane and only a complete moron would play with that kind of fire.
In Thailand people kept trying to sell drugs to me. I don't do drugs so there was no temptation, but even if I did I would stay the fuck away from that knowing how seriously local authorities take it. Never be underinformed, about anything.
Even if it was safe to use drugs in Thailand I wouldn't want to take anything from some random person that offered them to me on the streets. At some point safety just comes first.

Quote from: scum on April 18, 2018, 11:52:53 PM
Who cares if it’s legal or not?
I can’t imagine a life without social drug use.
Any sane person would care about legality when it comes to the Middle East or some parts of Asia. Their drug laws are completely and utterly insane and only a complete moron would play with that kind of fire.
In Thailand people kept trying to sell drugs to me. I don't do drugs so there was no temptation, but even if I did I would stay the fuck away from that knowing how seriously local authorities take it. Never be underinformed, about anything.

What do you get for smoking a reefer over there?
In Japan around 5 years in prison were the norm if I recall correctly. Not sure if Thailand would be more or less strict. Funny sidenote, psilocybe mushrooms were legally available all over the place in Japan until around 2006. They were outlawed because people were unable to clearly label them and to tell them apart from your everyday edible mushroom.



901. Post 35107560 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Torque on April 19, 2018, 02:24:41 PM
U.S. treasury yield curve has flattened to lowest spread in a decade. On track to invert within 6 months. Usually market crash and recession follow 12 months after that.

Will history repeat?

What do you all think that Bitcoin will do in such an event? Epic rise or epic crash?
Hopefully epic rise. With predictable oscillations between equity and crypto.



902. Post 35107708 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 19, 2018, 03:02:48 PM
Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.
I like the "waste energy" lifestyle, but only so that governments will get forced by the loud plebs to dump money into researching abundant energy. Need more incomprehensible future tech today. Hate the warm weather though, fortunately ACs are a thing.



903. Post 35108152 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 19, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.
I like the "waste energy" lifestyle, but only so that governments will get forced by the loud plebs to dump money into researching abundant energy. Need more incomprehensible future tech today. Hate the warm weather though, fortunately ACs are a thing.
Take a trip to Denmark in the winter. Learn to love heat. I have spent two months southwards just to not be cold this year. Might make it a habit.
I lived in Thailand for around a year, also spent some time in the Middle East. I can deal with the heat, but if I given a choice I'd go with cold weather over hot weather every time. It's just more convenient to have the option of putting on more clothes to negate the effects of weather, which is impossible in extreme heat while outside. Ideally I'd prefer something around 16 to 20 Celsius though.



904. Post 35116908 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 19, 2018, 05:28:15 PM
Hottest day of the year so far in the UK, it’s 77 degrees Fahrenheit. About time we reached T Shirt weather. Hopefully the change in weatger coincides with a change in market sentiment & we start a climb back up in Q2 - Q3 of 2018.

I’m feeling $12,000 by the end of May, who’s with me?
I voted May 31st for the 10k Euro game. Picked that on a whim though. Last time I overshot, this time I'll undershoot.



905. Post 35117408 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 19, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
Hottest day of the year so far in the UK, it’s 77 degrees Fahrenheit. About time we reached T Shirt weather. Hopefully the change in weatger coincides with a change in market sentiment & we start a climb back up in Q2 - Q3 of 2018.

I’m feeling $12,000 by the end of May, who’s with me?

 Just off the top of my head, that would equate to 115 F in May... are you suicidal?

I just left my house for the first time in just under two weeks. And I didn't go out in a t-shirt because I didn't expect it to be 80.6 Fahrenheit. Needless to say, I'm going to stay shut-in until the weather gets fixed if I can help it. Need to be more careful not to sleep through deliveries for the next few months.



906. Post 35127847 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.52h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on April 19, 2018, 09:37:34 PM
Isn't this proof enough that we're still beginning & getting warmed up for the real boom?


Yeah well, the time scale is going to be vastly different this time around though. Things just spin much faster than they used to.



907. Post 35230157 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: LastJedi on April 20, 2018, 11:37:54 PM


+4 WOsMerits 


The dank memes are dead now.
Let the light of the force flow thru you *in yoda voice*  Grin

Any may the bitcoin price rise.

BTW, the kid was right who sat with Mcafee last night:

Translation: 'Buy at the dip!' Wink
Reads サトシ中本 or Satoshi Nakamoto.

Is McAfee into smuggling kids now or why was that little dude at their dinner?


Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on April 21, 2018, 02:04:50 AM
everyone be enjoying their 4/20 high? ... never fails to deliver, mmm but maybe a bad trip for the shorts but oh well.
My sense of time is so bad that I've completely missed it. Guess I'll make up today.


Quote from: ivomm on April 21, 2018, 05:39:09 AM
No chance  Grin

Lmao, look at that bear. Thinks he's a fox.

Quote
Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds and mine the shit out of them.
Wonder what scifi is going to be like in a hundred or a thousand years. Playing gods? Or just restarting life from scratch because everything else is too normal?



908. Post 35508263 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: fabiorem on April 24, 2018, 07:36:25 PM
So, we are approaching 10k... where are the rockets, trains, that kind of stuff?

I only see people talking about Roger's Cash. Do Roger deserves so much attention?



I'm waiting for a 100k bottom to get excited. Until then not much is going to change. Alternatively I'd also be happy with scaling being resolved regardless of the BTC price.



909. Post 35513702 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 24, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
EDIT: Holy crap. I just recognized I've attained Legendary status. I spend waaaay too much time here...  Wink

bob...you been legendary since I came back, like, a year ago
And I thought my memory was fucked for a moment.



910. Post 36678216 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on May 08, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
Something that happens only once in a blue moon sighted one minute back:



24-hour change = 0.00%

is bitcoin dead?

Ofcourse it is, it has died 288 times to be exact Smiley
That number is merely an estimate for the lower bound.


Also, wtf did I miss? Since when are the people = the government? I get that there's the argument that people get the government that they deserve (which is a pretty weak one), but ultimately governments never had anything to do with "the people" beyond pacifying them into submission with varying methods.



911. Post 36680847 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 08, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
It would've been nice to be over $10k by now.

Yeah, was kinda hoping we'd be closer to $10k by today than $9k, but that's the 'corn for ya. It sways whichever way it wants.

Also, Bill Gates has revealed himself as a lazy idiot, with respect to speaking about shorting Bitcoin if he could, and creating FUD.

Nice guy.
Just imagine if people were capable of simply admitting that they haven't done any research about a given topic. Pretty sure we'd run out of serious problems very quickly.



912. Post 36925281 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Torque on May 11, 2018, 12:37:03 AM
In a bear market every news is bad news.
In a bull market every news is good news.

Just doesn't make sense.

Meanwhile in the stock market:

Company posts a quarterly loss, stock pumps +10%.
Company beats on earnings across the board, stock crashes -10%.

Just doesn't make sense.
People are, on average, mentally impaired. They just buy/follow whatever is the flavour of the <insert current time>. Thanks to the very same people it's quite easy to become filthy rich even without finding something like Bitcorn early though. They're also quite entertaining to watch from time to time.



913. Post 37131984 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Speculatoross on May 13, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
Just realized why you all want a Lamborghini.
Ferrari is owned by Fiat
Nice meme



914. Post 37149678 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Torque on May 13, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
Just realized why you all want a Lamborghini.
Ferrari is owned by Fiat
Nice meme
I didn't get it. What the heck is wrong with having a Ferrari and being a bitcoiner.
Are you joking with Fiat as in fiat money? Explain I'm curious

I'm sure the joke was Fiat as in 'fiat currency'.

But even if it wasn't, heck I'd own a Fiat 500 Abarth in a hot minute. Sweet lil' cars.
I assumed the joke to be 'fiat currency' as well. Not aware of any meme level animosity towards Fiat (the company).



915. Post 37239710 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: Globb0 on May 14, 2018, 09:53:10 AM
It looks like most people here is over 40? Noone (no matter which age) that didn't start using computers until the nineties? And absolutely no millenials here?

Interesting if that were the case.

No, several old-timers here have mentioned using Macs from 1979 & Commodore 64s from 1984.

Anyone else start out on a 166mhz pentium?

My first job was a point on the early n86's when chips were sx or dx (internal maths co processor)

Ofc years before I had all the same stuff mentioned here.

A spectrum that crashed if you touched the keyboard etc.   Cheesy

First game experience was a thing like big mac at an uncles house, it was a text driven game.

Did all those gaming sessions turn me brainy? its problem solving.

I was trying to keep my kids away from gaming too early, but now I have seen how quick they learnt to solve the puzzles. I am changing my mind.

Hand eye coordination, trying things that might work? all good eh?


 


I'm thinking of keeping mine away from schools and the internet while leaving games open. Of course, since they wouldn't know any better there'd only be a handful of games for them to play until they've matured enough to just let them loose online.

With the right games you're definitely bound to get more brainy though, my brother hasn't played in a try-hard kind of way as I have and there are marked differences between the two of us as a result.

But that's mostly down to attitude I would say (which I got from specific games that I didn't want to put down but that required you to keep trying to figure out how things work). So as long as a person is encouraged (through whatever means) to think up different scenarios and to compare them it'll most likely become second nature into adulthood.



916. Post 39989516 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: jbreher on June 12, 2018, 09:45:58 PM
fuck this shit! i sold everything at $6480

Too bad, so sad.

Can it go down further? Perhaps. Will it? Maybe. But sure as shit, it'll come roaring back, and you'll be out in the cold.

Hell, we were at this level just two months ago. Grow some stones, ninnies.
Did you nibble on some of the wrong mushrooms on your bearish adventures?



917. Post 40230154 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 16, 2018, 09:34:46 AM
WHO would be ready for weeks and weeks of green dildo's ?? ?? Huh
The GODL frog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31N892GN4Yk



918. Post 40370908 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: serveria.com on June 18, 2018, 08:12:11 AM
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Ah one of those mid 2014 , Bitcoin can never go below $400 arguments.
Bitcoin will go as low as it takes to flush any weak, middle and semi-strong hands. This forum isn't even close to the "OMG Bitcoin is dead and I've lost my house" tears of December 14, Jan 15.   Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.

Exactly!. The rally can only begin if the term "bulltard" is consistently used for a prologend period of time. Period!

Nope, this won't work because you'll never see a bearish post from me. NEVER  Cool I guess I'm a bulltard..  Grin
You just used the term though, so I guess the next rally can just about begin? Roll Eyes



919. Post 40373687 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

Quote from: bitserve on June 18, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Ah one of those mid 2014 , Bitcoin can never go below $400 arguments.
Bitcoin will go as low as it takes to flush any weak, middle and semi-strong hands. This forum isn't even close to the "OMG Bitcoin is dead and I've lost my house" tears of December 14, Jan 15.   Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.

Exactly!. The rally can only begin if the term "bulltard" is consistently used for a prologend period of time. Period!

Nope, this won't work because you'll never see a bearish post from me. NEVER  Cool I guess I'm a bulltard..  Grin
You just used the term though, so I guess the next rally can just about begin? Roll Eyes

No, until we all bulltards get on the verge of suicide there won't be any rally. Just accept it.
Can you recommend a manufacturer of rope?



920. Post 40472046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.58h):

I fail to see how SegWit is confusing. It solved some problems and the plebs who would get confused by it don't really have to use it (or realize that they are using it).

And regardless, once mainstream adoption is actually possible everything will be so dumbed down that even knowing what SW or LN are will be completely redundant for daily use. Or rather, unless an understanding of the back-end becomes 100% irrelevant Bitcorns won't become mainstream.



921. Post 40804889 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: vphasitha01 on June 24, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
I think if someone tends to selling btc now is the same as buying between 18,000 - 20,000$.

RSI is now near the oversold levels and showing some indication of reversal, so what do you waiting for..just grab some btc now and thank me later Wink
All of the standard indicators that you have access to with commercial trading tools are going to be largely useless. After all, the people who create those types of indicators already have them priced in whilst also having much more sophisticated algorithms to raze down the hordes of people that use the publicly available indicators.



922. Post 40811131 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: bones261 on June 24, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
wow btc really hit usd$5900...


Yes, and I really am not convinced by the reaction from support on this dump. I suspect that we may see another test for lower.  Embarrassed
There are numerous bets in the altcoin market that are more sensible than betting on Bitcoin in the very short term. Especially since you can swing back into BTC once the trend finally reverses and thus increase your stash from multiple sources. Still wouldn't move my cold storage corns around though, that train left in winter.
If we actually near $3-4k territory I'll probably be liquidating some of my hardware and/or equity though for extra corn though.

Quote from: gembitz on June 24, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
wow btc really hit usd$5900...


Yes, and I really am not convinced by the reaction from support on this dump. I suspect that we may see another test for lower.  Embarrassed

next stop $2500? =) weee
Highly doubt it but I'll take it.



923. Post 40873716 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: gembitz on June 24, 2018, 03:14:38 PM
take what? ...when everything is centralized then this whole space is gone wrong. :\ hmmm
Wealth has been, is and always will be centralized. It's called Pareto's law and it applies to pretty much every situation in nature and society, not just money. It's a fundamental and integral part of reality.

The appeal of Bitcoin isn't forced "equalization" of the monetary supply, but the impossibility of just arbitrarily pulling coins out of some fat turd's ass. Basically, centralization of funds is fine, centralization of full power over a system is not (the later is the problem with fiat and the former is a perfectly fine).



924. Post 43855682 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: vapourminer on August 10, 2018, 11:52:52 PM
I just wanted to let you all know, that I'm secure enough with myself to admit, that I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Bitcorn prices.

What a ride though. Crazy wild swings.

I can't imagine the financial carnage Bitcorn has caused people trying to play the markets.

isnt this what we signed up for? the wild ride?

i mean who wants to be bored.


I was getting bored, now I'm getting excited. Is Bitcorn trying to be a recreational substance?



925. Post 43857104 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on August 11, 2018, 12:47:04 AM
Elwar, can you repeat the story here that you've told here before, about a local bitcoin sale you did long ago, that did not go well?


Is that a real animal?



926. Post 43857534 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: yefi on August 11, 2018, 01:53:51 AM
Is that a real animal?

The rest of it is connected to Rosewater's groin, so yes.
The stealth grapist.



927. Post 43872046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: Elwar on August 11, 2018, 08:04:04 AM
If the drop were due to the ETF being delayed then shitcoins would not be dropping so much. Since it's BTC getting the ETF, not shitcoins.
Shitcoins have no fiat pairing. So if Bitcoin bleeds they bleed by default. The apparent fiat bleeding for shitcoins triggers people to flee the shitcoin markets to get out into BTC, fiat and/or stable shitcoins, which causes further collapse. Then once BTC starts climbing again, more shitcoin FOMO money flows into BTC, which is yet a third cause for shitcoins to collapse. There are as always exceptions, but they are manipulated, hyped, or just the ultra-rare coin that happens to have delivered something.

After this scenario we'll get to what the goose has claimed, namely the bull-run leading up to 2020 or whatever new current year.



928. Post 43874357 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on August 11, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
Oooh that’s nice and bearish. Maybe the bottom is close after all.
Was about to say, time to take out another mortgage. Tongue


Quote from: Elwar on August 11, 2018, 10:08:00 AM
I don't think that any of us can deny that it is mainly whales pushing the price up and pushing it down.

This really has nothing to do with typical sentiment of the average user or some sort of good or bad news. Other than the fact that the whales may believe that the market will not fight them in one move or another as they swing things back and forth.

The key being, which way do these whales want the price to go? Well they are certainly not in bitcoin because they read the white paper and were inspired. They have balance sheets that need big profits.

We will see. I really do wish Wall Street would stay out of bitcoin. Bitcoin can grow without it, and will likely be around long after it.
Isn't the average user generally just a follower? As much as I'm sure that there are some, I can't think of an example where the average user/consumer actually drives anything without being coerced to do so in one way or another.



929. Post 43879096 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on August 11, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
Elwar, can you repeat the story here that you've told here before, about a local bitcoin sale you did long ago, that did not go well?


Is that a real animal?

it looks like a juvenile of a species from the Galaxiidae family of freshwater fish ... native to NZ (and a few other s. hemisphere countries). Colloquially know as whitebait and considered a delicacy.
Ah, I've had whitebait before in Japan, although those were much much smaller which threw me off. Either that or the scale in the background is not 0.5 cm per square like I'm used to. Or perhaps NZ whitebait is overall larger the ones in Japan, or Japan uses them even younger. Uhh.



930. Post 43884534 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: Torque on August 11, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
Go and share this in every shitcoin telegram group you are in.
(Than shame yourself, why you are in a shitcoin telegram group?)



Funny how the payment is made in Bitcoin and not in other shitcoins. I guess Bitcoin is the thing that is valuable, eh?  Wink
I still see it as the new USD, while others will be more akin to foreign currency or equity. You generally don't seek payment in stocks, but in USD. Bitcorn won't be different and the parallels are quite interesting. One set of people coming up with money and another group copying them with their own version. It's quite funny how everything in life just repeats itself.



931. Post 43920110 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: Elwar on August 12, 2018, 04:35:28 AM
Apparently reddit does not like my humor (or lack thereof).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/96mnhp/for_those_who_bought_bitcoin_to_get_rich_my/

downvotes galore
Had a good chuck. Would laugh even harder if it was indeed over or/AND if Bitcoin got hacked indeed. Wouldn't like it, but would be very entertained if it happened immediately after your post.



Quote from: Searing on August 12, 2018, 05:24:31 AM
I'm either a genius or an idiot
Same difference. Roll Eyes



932. Post 43920442 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

The thing with certifications is that they give you a false sense of accomplishment and closure, even though most of them are trash and only require a bare minimum understanding and aptitude. Otherwise the broad masses would start complaining that it's too hard for them to get anywhere in life whilst not putting in the required effort. Not necessarily a government problem in that regard, although I'm not going to even try to speak positively about it (gov).



933. Post 43979820 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: Elwar on August 12, 2018, 05:46:26 AM
The thing with certifications is that they give you a false sense of accomplishment and closure, even though most of them are trash and only require a bare minimum understanding and aptitude. Otherwise the broad masses would start complaining that it's too hard for them to get anywhere in life whilst not putting in the required effort. Not necessarily a government problem in that regard, although I'm not going to even try to speak positively about it (gov).

My best friend went through the whole thing to become a financial adviser. He convinced me that whole life insurance was a good investment.

It wasn't until I was trying to defend it in an online forum using math that I realized how horrible it was.
It is a good investment... for the insurance firm.



934. Post 44044883 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on August 14, 2018, 02:50:36 AM
Someone else’s goose is cooked.  Bitmain has received $US450 million in funding from investors including Sequoia, GIC, and IDG Capital.


Wouldn't mind seeing their investments burn to the ground.



935. Post 44049689 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 14, 2018, 06:20:43 AM
Mr.Bones I want off the ride....

If Bitcoin goes to 1k it will never recover. People are not buying. This is not good.
If Bitcoin goes to 1k I'll be loading up on Casascius coins.



936. Post 44051323 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on August 14, 2018, 06:52:49 AM
Article from Aug. 6th - https://ethereumworldnews.com/bitcoin-dominance-drops-significantly-further-worrying-btc-investors/
Karma's a bitch  Wink

Fuck off. Karma is the finest lady the world has ever seen. Karma is kween.



937. Post 44126227 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.04h):

Is everyone on everyone else's ignore list over here? The fuck happened during my brief absence?



938. Post 44139406 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.05h):

Quote from: jojo69 on August 15, 2018, 05:45:54 PM
Code:
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Elwar
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Your list contains some of the more interesting persons on this forum imho...

V8s list is clearly tongue-in-cheek 
Or is it?



939. Post 46248325 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on September 27, 2018, 09:29:43 PM
Just another Bart formation coming, nothing to see here.

We're getting higher highs and higher lows, so maybe this time's different.

Oh, why'd you haffa go and say that!?!!?
Jinx to the moon.



940. Post 46249014 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: jojo69 on September 27, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
ETH pump target 0.14

engage
Did I miss something?



941. Post 46249117 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Torque on September 27, 2018, 10:12:22 PM
Curious thread about Bitmain IPO  https://twitter.com/katherineykwu/status/1045059356994269184





I'm thinking this whole Bitmain IPO document is a complete fabrication.

Why? Because if they really did make that much net revenue in half a year's time, then they'd never have a need to take the company public.

Period.


when this was first floated...i think I heard 15 billion..that is a lot of mula. Now not so much. On the other hand, if they do the IPO now and btc dumps..they got lots

and lots of IPO $$$ as a hedge to cover their 'dubious' BCH investments this year Smiley But, if BTC pumps, they can ride this IPO back up to whatever the market will bear

win/win



I can't imagine anyone would want to put any serious cash into the Bitmain IPO with the two idiots (Jihan Wu and some other rich Chinese asshole) controlling 55% of the company.
People investing into things they know nothing about is probably as old as money.



942. Post 46264326 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: lightfoot on September 28, 2018, 09:44:09 AM
Hm. Are we holding at almost 400 transactions a second?

Remember when 3 tps would crash the network?


400tx/s?? What are you talking about?

It it a typo?
I really should not check this stuff after waking from weird dreams. 3.79tps, not 379 tps.....

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions
Those types of dreams are the best (in the sense that it's quite interesting how stupid our brain is).



943. Post 46299380 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: lightfoot on September 29, 2018, 03:34:04 AM
Swiss brand Hublot ($10K+ entry-models) announced it's Bitcoin Big Bang Model which you can buy only with Bitcoin. Not a huge news, but another name placed on their timepieces is Ferrari, for example.
1) 10k entry is pretty cheap overall. I'd prefer a Patek Phillipe myself or a Breuget over a Hublot.
2) They want a picture of my passport to pre-register? That's got to be the fucking ballsiest thing I have seen all week.

Fuck this. Go to Vegas, cash out 50-80k and buy a really nice Patek repeater. Do not go to the Cartier store in Wynn unless you're looking to pick up a 1.3m platinum watch....



Without the whole passport thing I would've snatched one up as another Bitcorn memento. I don't like how everyone and their moms want full KYC these days despite of increasing amounts of data breeches. And so far nobody seems to be trying to solve that part of the problem either.



944. Post 46305870 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on September 29, 2018, 09:36:38 AM
despite of increasing amounts of data breeches. And so far nobody seems to be trying to solve that part of the problem either.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/6167/products/Dublin_Performance_Cool-It_Gel_Riding_Tights_Beige_Lifestyle_grande.jpg?v=1526397464
not bothered with it to be fair
it's a big part of why we pay for our wiminz' horses, no?
Obvious auto-correct and not me being retarded. Roll Eyes


Quote from: Astargath on September 29, 2018, 11:07:13 AM
I don't recall seeing anyone post or discuss this 1broker.com seizure issue that happened about two days ago.

https://bitcoinist.com/1broker-com-domain-seized-by-the-fbi/
Dull twit.

Speaking of Dull twit, I am coming to a tentative vision about some possible upcoming BTC price waves that could suggest that our BTC bottom is already "in"

So perhaps, at some point we are going to get price trickling up, and then a shooting up of the price that takes us above $10k, but just short of micgoosen's intermediary play game.. so just shy of $12k.. so that UP would take less than a month to play out, and then prices correct down to nearly $7k, and then get stuck in a $7,600 to $9k range for several months.... maybe 6 months-ish...  before resuming progress towards the previous ATH... but then again getting stuck along the way, perhaps in the $14-$17k range for at least 6 months....

Therefore, we might not be breaking previous ATHs again for about a year and a half.. maybe that is too lackluster of a scenario given potential drama that could involve playing around with the halvening and an ETF that could cause additional UP drama?  though I am thinking that we still have not experienced our true and complete blow-off top that would have been started by the December 2017 rise to $19,666... so there is that, too.

I know that a lot of us are thinking that alt coins are dead, but seems that whether we like it or NOT, they are coming with us for at least one more rally that will confuse a lot of normies about which coin to invest in... but those of us already who have been around the block understand that bitcoin is the solid one... especially if we are considering both upside and downside risks.

I doubt we will get stuck in the 14-17k range. Once we reach 12k, the amount of fomo will be ridiculous. We will speed past the ATH and reach a new level. I would not be surprised to see 30k at the end of year.

FOMO wont be the same because a lot of people are going to be scared of another crash, also a lot of people will take profits along the way this time (at least more people than last time). We will never achieve the same amount of FOMO unless we break 20k convincingly.
FOMO isn't the same right now, at the prices above it would be strange if it didn't be strong enough to trigger a massive bull run. Right now NEW people are scared because they got burnt with the hype train by jumping on when it was about to derail. Old people (crypto not age) are just used to the same old same old. Once we break 10k USD and then 10k EUR and sustain it for a brief period of time instead of rejecting it things are bound to accelerate.



945. Post 46317565 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

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Because these new retards to the scene think KYC is gonna protect them when all it's going to do is get the tax man on their doorstep. Lol Morons.
KYC just lets the politicians in the door so they can get their cuy from the scammers end. Scammers keep scamming now they just have to pay the fine as part of doing business and the little guys still gets squeezed. Sheeple are just morons, I just don't know how to state it a different way.
It's not just that either, they're basically asking for their identities to be sold on DNMs directly by the twits running ICOs and no-name exchanges.

Every other way to state that fact is purely tautological.



946. Post 46340428 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 30, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
This is my best match against a 2014 scenario.



https://www.tradingview.com/i/YSYQZwmF/
Did you actually include the halving in your plot? How about difficulty increase (and hence mining cost per BTC)? Or did you just overlay the 2014 scenario without any other factors?


Quote from: d_eddie on September 30, 2018, 12:53:08 AM
Here's a recent interview with a interesting character: https://breakermag.com/john-mcafee-is-73-very-stoned-and-running-for-president/
I'd love to see him debate the Donald, or the FBI. I really hope he runs for president. Of course he doesn't stand a chance - and he's smart enough to say it aloud and repeatedly, but can you imagine the fun?
I wouldn't want to be around that guy irl, but I love watching him talk. Certainly a smart fellow, and he's into scotch.



Also thanks for the merit, Hueristic.



947. Post 46340722 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 30, 2018, 02:35:16 AM
Also, MacAfee isn't afraid to (allegedly) order the murder of somebody who's dogs are pissing him off when he's hung-over.


His dogs were poisoned though. Not condoning that behaviour, but I'm certainly not surprised that somebody would have a guy who killed their precious dogs disappear, especially if they could get away with it. People have killed others for less.


Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 30, 2018, 10:03:31 AM
Did you actually include the halving in your plot? How about difficulty increase (and hence mining cost per BTC)? Or did you just overlay the 2014 scenario without any other factors?

Yes I have adjusted the 2014 scale so that the 2014 halvening aligns with the projected May 2020 halvening date.

I have not taken difficultly into consideration as difficulty is an effect of price, it is not a cause.
I haven't done the full Math on this, but isn't that a back and forth kind of game (due to the presence of traders and speculators)?



948. Post 46342106 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 30, 2018, 10:13:05 AM
I haven't done the full Math on this, but isn't that a back and forth kind of game (due to the presence of traders and speculators)?

Correlation vs Causation.  This is the Captain speaking.  If there is a statistician on board, please press the call attendant button to identify yourself to the cabin crew.  
From that perspective you can spin the argument up from both sides. The price is a result of the difficulty, as it dictates the supply. The cause that you speak of can be arbitrarily picked here. (Infinite difficulty = no coins = no price, hence the presence of a difficulty creates a price)



949. Post 46342144 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 30, 2018, 10:36:38 AM
Just saw the artikel of the HUBLOT big bang blockchain watch.....
this could be something i like

I think i did was the article as well around here , didn’t iT ?

Good to see its going more and more mainstream  Grin
The article was posted around here yes, the watch seems to be quite nice looking too. I just don't like sending my passport around when I go shopping.



950. Post 46342814 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 30, 2018, 10:57:06 AM
^
Haha my GF just says wtf people might think thats are home  Roll Eyes
(Its a very alternative looking place) but its the best lol  Roll Eyes
Do I spy a cutie? Good catch.



951. Post 46344913 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 30, 2018, 11:48:28 AM
I haven't done the full Math on this, but isn't that a back and forth kind of game (due to the presence of traders and speculators)?

Correlation vs Causation.  This is the Captain speaking.  If there is a statistician on board, please press the call attendant button to identify yourself to the cabin crew.  
From that perspective you can spin the argument up from both sides. The price is a result of the difficulty, as it dictates the supply. The cause that you speak of can be arbitrarily picked here. (Infinite difficulty = no coins = no price, hence the presence of a difficulty creates a price)

Except this isn’t really accurate. Difficulty adjusts both up and down. With a low enough difficulty I can run the entire Bitcoin network on my 2009 laptop.  Any decrease in supply due to a rapid decrease in hashrate is inconsequential on a multi year time line.
I should've clarified that I meant the initial difficulty for the genesis block. A difficulty so high that no coins can be mined results in no coins and thus no price, and a difficulty so low that arbitrarily many coins can be mined by anyone would result in a price of zero. Hence, the difficulty came first, and the price came after. Even without these edge cases, you need to mine coins first before any price can be set though. Alas, you can spin this up either way by including or excluding exotic scenarios.



952. Post 46353062 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Torque on September 30, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
In all trading markets, there is no more true price or value discovery based on supply/demand anymore.

There are only two things : technicals (bot trading) and the media "narrative" du jour to support the technical trading.

That's it. (Hint: just look at the 1m chart, that literally shows what all the worldwide Average Joe retail demand there is on any given day. It's a ridiculously pitiful, miniscule amount).

So what do you think will be "the narrative" will be when Bitcoin's technicals turn over to start a new bull run?

Is there even a real narrative in the MSM? I don't think I've really read any article that was relevant or even interesting. Always hype or doom with some fluff that is quite often just flat out wrong. Seems like the only thing they're good for are figuring out when to dump a few coins or buy some more.



953. Post 46358147 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Torque on September 30, 2018, 03:55:52 PM
In all trading markets, there is no more true price or value discovery based on supply/demand anymore.

There are only two things : technicals (bot trading) and the media "narrative" du jour to support the technical trading.

That's it. (Hint: just look at the 1m chart, that literally shows what all the worldwide Average Joe retail demand there is on any given day. It's a ridiculously pitiful, miniscule amount).

So what do you think will be "the narrative" will be when Bitcoin's technicals turn over to start a new bull run?

Is there even a real narrative in the MSM? I don't think I've really read any article that was relevant or even interesting. Always hype or doom with some fluff that is quite often just flat out wrong. Seems like the only thing they're good for are figuring out when to dump a few coins or buy some more.

I've long theorized that the MSM "narrative" for Bitcoin has always been and always will be negative, primarily for two reasons:

1. Wallstreet doesn't own 90%+ of all bitcoin (like they do with tech stocks), never will, therefore they don't want to promote it (i.e., they can't game the system therefore they are disinterested anyway).

2. The whales that are interested in the Bitcoin market don't want Average Joe to find and buy the bottom. If they can keep up the negative narrative around Bitcoin, they can say "Stay away, there is no good time to buy!". They only want the public to buy the next ATH in the last few weeks and be bag holders.
That seems pretty much point on. Especially the second point, as whenever MSM starts hyping Bitcorn a reversal is usually just around the corner.



954. Post 46425856 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on October 02, 2018, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: Amazon
Contemporary Action Theory, Volume I (Individual Action) is concerned with topics in philosophical action theory such as reasons and causes of action, intentions, freedom of will and of action, omissions and norms in legal and ethical contexts, as well as activity, passivity and competence from medical points of view. Cognitive trying, freedom of the will and agent causation are challenges in the discussion on computers in action. The Volume consists of contributions by leading experts in the field written specifically for this volume. No comparable volume currently exists.
TIL.
When I first started to learn about bitcoin, I read this
Quote from: Datskovskiy
It was then that I suddenly realized exactly what had led me to pick up programming when I was young, and to continue studying every aspect of computing I could lay my hands on. It was the notion that a computer could make me smarter. Not literally, of course – no more than a bulldozer is able to make me stronger. I thirsted for a machine which would let me understand and create more complex ideas than my unassisted mind is capable of, in the same way that heavy construction equipment can let mediocre biceps move mountains. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=8
and was hooked.
Used to be at best indifferent to computers, all the while dumbly praising cars 'because it's a tiny bit of freedom in this world'. Now I've realised these machines can help us fully regain our sovereignty. With the help of course, of the other people 'in bitcoin'.
That is almost inevitably where technology is leading. Costs are on a steady downward path and eventually things will be so easily accessible that you'd have to be beyond retarded to go down some fuckwit path that could risk your livelihood in a world of abundance.

Sure, there's still likely going to be classes of people, as there are always those that push in any specific direction much more rigorously than others. But that's perfectly fine and nobody would even think of making an issue out of it when the bottom of the barrel can satisfy all their relevant material desires and thus stay in perpetual distraction of the results of their laziness.

Let's not forget that even many poor people (in a proportion I am unaware of) are living far better than kings did not very long ago already.



955. Post 46425998 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: Febo on October 02, 2018, 12:21:07 PM

That is not that bearish prediction, but totally reasonable one. You need to understand that bull market forms very slow and only after old ATH gets reached escalate. But what concern me much more is the next economic crisis. It might strike in middle of the next Bitcoin bull run and breaks it. Something as it happened in 2008 and is predict to be much bigger this time since it will also involve China, could delay Bitcoin bull market for whole two years.
First off, past performance doesn't predict the future. And secondly, it is a bearish prediction if you consider the snowball effect of user growth, which implies accelerating growth of capital up to some saturation level.



956. Post 46455648 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.08h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 02, 2018, 10:31:28 PM
The fractal says a low of $3,800 in January 2019 but let’s wait and see.  It won’t be an exact match and lots of whales will be aggressively trying to chop up the market.

Fractals are quite subjective - maybe even moreso than other forms of TA.

https://medium.com/@coinobs/bitcoin-fractal-the-bullish-scenario-37f5dae1384f

Thanks for that link, infofront.

I was a bit embarrassed to ask what the fuck a "fractal" was.  hahahahahaha... but apparently, fractals are convincing phenomena in the eyes of some folk.  
They appear all over the place in nature, so it would not be surprising at all if they matched financial markets as well. The thing in finance and trading however is, that people just draw random charts without even understanding the Mathematics behind their favourite indicator and then end up spewing something of equal value as a horoscope.


P.S. Look fractals up in detail though. The non-finance fractals are a gorgeous (if visually represented) and mind-bending structure.



957. Post 46541431 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: kurious on October 04, 2018, 05:52:21 PM
@ICORating:

We want to introduce our new general security rating of centralized exchanges. Visit the exchange page and check stats: https://goo.gl/GLvvsi  





I wonder how they assess 233 exchanges for relative security with any accuracy that is meaningful. 

Do they phone them up and ask if they have a 'hack insurance' policy?  And a good guard dog..?
Pretty sure they just make up shit so they can create a site that gets decent amounts of traffic. Just like politicians and bankers.



958. Post 46544765 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: Torque on October 05, 2018, 03:20:43 PM
OT : Jim Cramer slipping up and showing his hand again, showing us the underlying corruption that is Wall Street:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/04/cramer-reveals-the-10-telltale-signs-that-could-prolong-the-sell-off.html

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"There's a very common trajectory when the market's going down. First, the analysts will try to keep recommending stocks and they're going to be completely ignored," the "Mad Money" host said.

"When they raise their price targets or even upgrade from 'hold' to 'buy' and no one listens, they're going to switch directions and they're going to start downgrading," he continued. "When those downgrades stop sending stocks lower, then you'll know a bottom is at hand. But we're not there yet."


Oh, so what you're saying Jim is that the analysts upgrade from 'hold' to 'buy' merely to get Average Joes to be the final bagholders on the way down? (Not because the stock is actually undervalued?)

And when that corrupt tactic doesn't work, then they reverse to 'sell' to cover their asses (and start shorting)?

Un-fucking-believable.  Roll Eyes Can't believe that he can even say this with a straight face.
How many people watching/reading/listening do you think actually understood the implications? And how many will keep walking into the same trap?



959. Post 46545261 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 05, 2018, 03:52:16 PM
but   but

muh smart contracts
badger badger badger badger



960. Post 46794402 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

With stocks crashing by as much as 40% we might just see the next Bitcoin rally soon, for which the last sell off could end up being a bear trap. How is the long volume developing?



961. Post 46813353 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

More red dildos at The Wall.



962. Post 46835051 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 13, 2018, 05:25:23 AM
You really are a dick sometimes.


Surprised you haven't Ignored him yet, TBH.

Makes this thread much more "sane".
I did for a while, but wanted to give him a chance. But even though I like hopium, his unrealistic one sidedness is old.  Re ignored...


"one sidedness"  Get off of it.

You conclude that you have a more objective and presumably "enlightened" perspectives?  or that you have some kind of charitable attempt at understanding various perspectives, but apparently you are lacking yourself with a bit of tolerance or ability to control your own emotions.

In other words:

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I think you've got the right idea long-term, and at least some (I don't track all) reasonable price guesses/predictions. But in one of your post you stated that we weren't in a bear market, which from a technical aspect has been wrong for more than half a year now.
It just so happens that market cycles in crypto are like those of stocks on crack in the sense that the time scale gets shrunk. And while you could argue that we were in correction territory around 10~15k, we've most certainly been in bear territory at least until very recently where you could argue a flat market (past 2-3 months).

The oscillations have been getting much thinner though, so I wouldn't be surprised if we were going to break out either before Christmas, or sometime around Spring. Unlike some others, I find it highly unlikely that we'll bear all the way to 2020ish.
I'm not sure if you're the overly optimistic perma-bull that some seem to make you out to be (since I haven't tracked this thread enough to say anything) or if you're just using clumsy terms to describe the situation.

Either way, nothing wrong with bear and sideways markets, just need a different strategy which arguably makes the whole deal more fun.



963. Post 46929686 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 15, 2018, 10:51:16 PM
THEY SHOULD MAKE ONE FOR coiners and nocoiners as well......

or BTC'ers and Bcashers etc

 Roll Eyes


Apple just announced emojis for BCashers.



964. Post 46929732 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.09h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 15, 2018, 10:53:18 PM
THEY SHOULD MAKE ONE FOR coiners and nocoiners as well......

or BTC'ers and Bcashers etc

 Roll Eyes


Apple just announced emojis for BCashers.

the little shit image got a B on top of it ??
They're for disaBled people. Roll Eyes



965. Post 47058295 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: Torque on October 19, 2018, 04:55:35 PM
I don't see any connection either way.  Certainly when bitcoin was $2, it was just geeks mining and a few people taking punt.  Big money didn't get involved until 2013 at the earliest, since then technical has been far more important than fundamentals.

Well, in 2013 the U.S. stock market went on a massive bull run/rally, peaked in Dec 2013, then went sharply bear in Jan 2014.

So did the Bitcoin market.

Then in 2017 the U.S. stock market went on a massive bull run/rally, peaked in Dec 2017, then went sharply bear in Jan 2018.

So did the Bitcoin market.

If you can't see that direct correlation, then I can't help you man. It's all about long money vs. short money, and smart money vs. dumb.

I would agree with you on technicals though, as the Bitcoin fundamentals haven't changed since 2012 so they don't really matter. I don't really consider SW and LN as a huge change to the fundamentals, as the utility and SoV function has been there all along.
The difference is the increasing volume in the Bitcoin market. Perhaps not this round, but in one of the next two rounds I could see actual hedging of stocks through crypto. Most people today still didn't get what Bitcoin is about and still think of it as a ponzi/bubble.

Furthermore, stocks were stable leading into summer and started climbing around mid to late summer. So anyone who sold some Bitcoins near the top would've made some decent profits in the stock markets. Hence, the lack of a perfect correlation creates opportunity.

We still don't know if Bitcoin or the stock market will enter the next rally first either. Any delay of one asset class would create further potential for profits.



966. Post 47065466 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on October 19, 2018, 09:57:26 PM
love ya guys!

Remember: Stay away from Bitmex while on acid.
Or make an acid trading stash.



967. Post 47066202 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 19, 2018, 10:39:29 PM
love ya guys!

Remember: Stay away from Bitmex while on acid.

You are the wind beneath my wings.

love ya guys!

Remember: Stay away from Bitmex while on acid.
Or make an acid trading stash.

I still have 1 and a half tabs left. Acid futures.
Always go long on acid futures.



968. Post 47127841 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 21, 2018, 10:40:44 AM
Looks rainy, where you headin'?

Going to meet someone that has about 2,500 little puzzles they need to solve.  We will have a chat about whether I can solve them in a way that is economic for them and profitable for me.

Where you going ?
How does someone find themselves needing to solve 2500 puzzles?



969. Post 47128758 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Done. Thanks for the hat.



970. Post 47130328 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: Yaplatu on October 21, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
BTC always the first  Grin


Text on the graph is wrong. Altcoins declined as well, just in proportion to their relatively low mentions compared to Bitcoin.



971. Post 47133340 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: kurious on October 21, 2018, 08:20:28 PM
Looks rainy, where you headin'?

Going to meet someone that has about 2,500 little puzzles they need to solve.  We will have a chat about whether I can solve them in a way that is economic for them and profitable for me.

Where you going ?
How does someone find themselves needing to solve 2500 puzzles?

Puzzles may be a euphemism for something else, but hey... if anyone has 2,500 issues, is prepared to pay to solve them - and Hairy thinks he can, then you can't blame him for jumping on a plane to check it out.  

And good luck to him!
Getting paid to solve puzzles sounds fun.



972. Post 47259322 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on October 25, 2018, 03:20:57 PM

It's easy now. Just don't take anyone without a hat seriously...

Roger that....
I don't think you're being serious.



973. Post 47362514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: infofront on October 28, 2018, 01:41:23 AM
Forced to take a Don't Rape People quiz. This is what outrages you lot these days? Shee-it. Try turning on the news for a few minutes.

I'm pretty confident that if people stop raping other people at UTS, then you won't have to take a rape quiz anymore.  

Its like the millennials at my work that I have to send to "getting along with your coworkers training" and "don't fuck each other at the Xmas party training".  Some people need to have it spelt out.  Preferably 48 hours before the Xmas party so they can still remember it.  

But that's just like my opinion, man.

Given that roach is still posting here, I am going to have to assume he wasn't the Pennsylvania synagogue shooter.

As our society keeps moving left, it keeps redefining rape. Now, if the woman drinks a half glass of wine before sex, it's rape. If she doesn't sign a notarized form saying "I consent to having sexual intercourse with Hairy Maclairy." it's rape.
Simple. Don't have sex with left-wing women and the problem will disappear within a few generations without any other forms of intervention, and much faster in reality. Mentally they're still kids at best too, so not much longer and consensual intercourse with them will be equivalent to the rape of a minor. Stay safe. (Not sure to what extent I'm memeing here.)



974. Post 47362726 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on October 28, 2018, 03:05:36 AM
As our society keeps moving left

lmao.

Such American Grin

He’s right though.  Religiosity is slowly declining global as incomes rise, including in the USA. As religious nutjobs of every stripe and color slowly die off, the world is becoming a more tolerant and peaceful place.

The world is becoming more of a tribe-minded authoritarian dumphole from where I'm sitting. Overpopulation is probably going to turn the whole planet into a dystopian mess any minute now. And the price of Bitcoin is too low.
I doubt overpopulation will be a real issue. There's an insane amount of money to be made from fixing any potential issue that could cause or arise from overpopulation, and people will be there to harvest.

*force majeure not accounted for



975. Post 47362862 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on October 28, 2018, 05:51:49 AM
Took a closer look at the consequences of reduced volatility on Bitcoin.  And the results indicate that a period of extremely low volatility in price results in a (small) rally four out of four times.  Lower indicator is Bollinger band width which is a measure of volatility.


https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/UvYxScWi-Bitcoin-USD-reduced-volatility-results-in-a-rally/
Inb4 small rally into forever sideways?



976. Post 47363981 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

Quote from: jojo69 on October 28, 2018, 03:47:59 PM

I doubt overpopulation will be a real issue.


The answer: meat grown in the lab from tissue. Also brings a much higher quality of life for the animals that we raise for food and whatnot with it as a nice side-effect. Not that far off from today either.

This would multiply our available food and water supply by a factor that I don't know, but it's likely going to be large given your infographic. Once we only need a handful of animals for their tissue to grow our meat in labs we'll also need much less water/crops to feed them, and thus have more of everything to ourselves.

A bigger issue is people with the foresight of a goldfish procreating endlessly.



977. Post 47379662 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.10h):

24h change for Bitcoin on CMC is at -0.01%. Everybody get out now!



978. Post 47408543 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Too spooky.



979. Post 47623821 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on November 05, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
Existance is pain. Pain of not knowing how or why things exist in the first place.
For the lulz. What else do you need?



980. Post 47654941 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Pickled Dick.



981. Post 47681903 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 07, 2018, 06:11:18 PM
^
Even feels like a DIP .........................
@realLudvigArt

#Bitcoin IS going to zero.

Somewhere between 5 and 7 zeros!

No, he's right. Bitcoin IS going to zero. We just don't know how many years from now. Roll Eyes



982. Post 47687111 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 07, 2018, 10:24:06 PM
I demand one or the other!

You are getting soft, infofront.  Why not both?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4RBWGw3lNo

One steak or two steaks?

Can I have both?



983. Post 47802312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Yaplatu on November 11, 2018, 12:39:42 PM
" 20% of the British Population See Bitcoin as an Inevitability " https://www.ccn.com/20-of-the-british-population-see-bitcoin-as-an-inevitability/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


"87% Neutral or Negative on Subject of Non-Bank Currency"

Humans, the pinnacle of evolution. Roll Eyes



984. Post 47857254 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 13, 2018, 09:50:46 AM
hat update and increasing

   




= first creation "colonel of the HAT INVASION"   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes collectors item
= HAT creator


=jbreher he only wear he's XhomerX on top of the bear MAYBE good for the BULL creation to tame that BEAR Wink
= nice for fun..... wanted by hueristic, but campaign issue's,SEMI hat carrier
= binaryreign.... avatar merit issue .........
=DireWolfM14 , but avatar merit issue.....
=Spaceman_Spiff_Original, awesome HAT, nice XhomerXwork, HACKED LEGENDARY i thought, with merit issue for wearing this cool HAT....... THINK HE WILL BE WEARING IT SOON Grin
=ROOMBOT if he plans to wear it



still in progress ? vapourminer,podyx,toxic2040,paashaas,ibian,ssmc,crypmike,bitebits,biodom,fluidjax etc........ pfffffffff   MANY HAT's created THX    (just the HATS that are used or gonna be in a future.....)

honoured with V8 appereances Grin .   ADDED as fast as i could.
Someone make a CryptoHat(tens) game running on LN.



985. Post 47898857 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on November 14, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
We didn't breach $6100, positive.
You were saying?



986. Post 47899019 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: infofront on November 14, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
I find it kind of funny that some shitcoin fork is having a significant effect on bitcoin's price.
I wouldn't call it a shitcoin fork having an impact on Bitcoin's price, but rather a bunch of very early adopters with very heavy bags fucking with low cap markets (down to $100B).

Let's hope we'll all get to enjoy an instant/delayed karma compilation with everybody involved in the future.



987. Post 47899071 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

And $6000 broken.



988. Post 47899191 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Phil_S on November 14, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
I reckon something, but don't want to jinx it.
Too late. If you don't want to jinx you don't bring it up. What have you done. Sad



989. Post 47899316 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Omg guys, +3% in a matter of seconds, why are we mooning?



990. Post 47899586 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Torque on November 14, 2018, 04:44:37 PM
I pray this is the sweet sweet sound of Ver, Wu, CSW, and that whore-n-party-loving man child douchebag guy selling all of their BTC forever.
If only....

On the other hand, they might end up FOMO pumping BTC in the future as a result of their current nonsense.



991. Post 47900287 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Torque on November 14, 2018, 05:07:32 PM
bItCoIn iS aLwAys bUlLiSh iN nOvEmBeR



This November is different tho, idk  Cheesy
November isn't over yet. Roll Eyes



992. Post 47902178 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: Astargath on November 14, 2018, 06:09:37 PM
So all of this crash was because 2 guys and some more are fighting on twitter over hash power? Ridiculous market.

Its the same impact as a president tweeting something about any company.

But there is a difference from 1 company and a whole international 24/7 market, isn't it? Plus these are supposed to be currencies. It's ridiculous.
One company's stocks are (often, but not always) an international near 24/7 market.



993. Post 47902332 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.12h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 14, 2018, 06:14:44 PM
Whatever they do the exchanges will still call it Bcash ABC or whatever. They might think they're ditching the bcash name, but they're stuck with it.

Haha. You funny guy.

None of the exchanges that matter call Bitcoin Cash 'BCash'. What makes you think they'll start now? Proof of Social Media?
Please excuse me while I write up a highly non-technical whitepaper with no shortage of meaningless buzzwords.



994. Post 47914035 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 15, 2018, 05:14:02 AM
If so

...we will all eat our hats. Buffet style.


I'm in.



995. Post 47972362 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Torque on November 16, 2018, 11:51:54 PM
Before people go off trying to deify Satoshi, they need to remember (or be informed) that Gavin himself was correcting Satoshi's coding mistakes. That was before even sharper devs came into the project.

We are all following an open source project with principles and with 100+ genius core devs.

We are NOT following a single person.
Coding is mostly grunt work. If Satoshi came up with the general idea himself the credit goes largely to him. Turning preconceived things into code is the easier part.


I do agree that it's irrelevant where Satoshi is now regarding Bitcoin's success. Once an idea is out in the wild it will prevail, given that it's good enough in the first place.



996. Post 47997714 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Looks like that Swiss ETF doesn't want any of the Faketoshi BCash and opted for the ABC chain instead.



997. Post 47997734 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

The fund also appears to be physically backed:

Quote
The fund automatically allocates crypto distributions based on their performance in market cap rankings. When you buy the stock, market makers buy the equivalent amount of cryptos – according to the distribution – and send it to a custodian for safe keeping.

Which is something nice in the light of all the retarded Futures.



998. Post 48031844 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on November 19, 2018, 12:46:21 AM
.....College is a huge scam.   ....

Well admittedly, I went to college and learned how to make money selling weed.... So there's that...

I enjoyed college. Lots of free time, learned a lot about Mathematics, and met a good bunch of interesting people. That said, it left a lot to be desired and if life was just about money I would've wasted my time there.



999. Post 48031856 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Syke on November 19, 2018, 02:15:14 AM
Love the stories please keep them coming.

On college degrees, they are kinda necessary for engineers.  That’s not something you want to learn by experience.  College degrees allow you to learn from other people’s experience...

These days college is just motivation to learn something. You could just as quickly learn everything on your own, but most "kids" don't have enough self-motivation to do it, so college is a good choice.
I'd go as far as to say that you could learn things much faster on your own than in college. The motivation point strikes true though.



1000. Post 48035165 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on November 19, 2018, 06:51:19 AM
LOL, where can I get one?
Manhattan?



1001. Post 48035189 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Alternatively you could ask xhomerx. Tongue



1002. Post 48045946 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Ibian on November 19, 2018, 01:05:44 PM
Off topic but totally cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jxRnodaKzE
Some people just want to watch the world burn.



1003. Post 48046011 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 11:03:29 AM


taking you guy's with me

now the price just gotta follow


Nice hat and hodlcoaster.



1004. Post 48049446 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Mic be honest with us.

Are you going full Soros on the markets so you won't have to fill the price guessing competitions?



1005. Post 48049563 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 05:24:42 PM
Mic be honest with us.

Are you going full Soros on the markets so you won't have to fill the price guessing competitions?

doing anything that i can to keep my coins bro .... you got me  Undecided


What a mad hatter. Angry



1006. Post 48049695 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 19, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Mic be honest with us.

Are you going full Soros on the markets so you won't have to fill the price guessing competitions?

doing anything that i can to keep my coins bro .... you got me  Undecided


What a mad hatter. Angry
but F*** 3 of them lists are very close time related ..... gotta send 1 for 12december and 2 on newyears eve (btw that a very dangerous one cause i might be fucked up by then and be sending more if i'm not carefull)

just gotta prepare 2 adresses with exact amount maybe Roll Eyes for newyears eve
And once you do fuck up and send too much you'll trigger the biggest epidemic of account trading Bitcointalk has ever seen. People will spend fortunes on accounts to participate in your games and break the forum.



1007. Post 48057871 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: gembitz on November 19, 2018, 05:41:33 PM
just came home to see this was another crypto carnage day. Undecided
many bottoms fell out again..
but theres still some satisfaction in seeing B-forks being among fastest falling shitcoins  Cheesy



 Cool

weeeee
Beautiful. I cry every time.



1008. Post 48059420 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Icygreen on November 20, 2018, 03:50:08 AM
All out of fiat ammo from that move.  Time to recharge but not looking forward to the hassle of a bank transfer.  Also just went slightly below my average.  Am I the only 1 potentially excited about lowering my cost average?  4.8K nice, 3k wow, 2K chub.  1k or less = beg and borrow
BTC is more relevant today than ever.  Just imagine how many are on the sidelines waiting for a bottom today.
  
No you're not the only one. I'm quite happy with my trading stash.



1009. Post 48084728 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: infofront on November 20, 2018, 09:26:20 PM
I'm glad this is happening so it will finally be over and done with.

I think we will have reached our new ATL since the last ATH within a day or 3.

Bwahaha. It doesn't happen that easily. We're going to keep grinding lower for months. There will be a few rallies to the upside, just to raise your spirits a little bit. Once you see a glimmer of hope, the Bogdanoffs will sell again and crush it. Rinse and repeat.

It will only end when our spirits have been utterly decimated, and our souls nearly destroyed. This thread will be nothing but tumbleweeds and r0ach posts. That's when you know we're starting to head back up. It will take a few months for anyone to even realize we're in recovery mode. We won't have time to read charts at that point anyway. We'll be too busy tying nooses and working overtime at McDonald's.

Then the bull returns and we get to do it all over again. Choo choo motherfuckers.
I thoroughly enjoyed the story telling time.



1010. Post 48086521 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: BHSMC on November 20, 2018, 11:27:51 PM
I can't believe there are still some idiots who believe in graphics, pattern etc.

lol
I have news for you... and they're not good.


Also, there is no single correct "graphic or pattern", you're supposed to estimate different scenarios and their probability of occurring, and then balance a portfolio based on that.



1011. Post 48087320 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on November 21, 2018, 01:00:53 AM
JJG doesn’t write posts. He sits and yells into a text to speech microphone. No one would ever type that much without being forced (like in school).
I used to, but I've changed my habits for the sake of readers. Now I just extrapolate if asked to and stay as brief as possible otherwise. Some 10 years ago long comments/posts were much more appreciated, but times have changed I guess.

Typing up such posts takes a minute or so when you type some ~150 words per minute by the way, so it doesn't really matter for the writer.



1012. Post 48087381 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Biodom on November 21, 2018, 01:22:24 AM
For those not very familiar with mining costs, here is an excellent write up from an expert.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063475.msg48085010#msg48085010

In US, typical (not in Cali) residential price is around 10c/kwh.

TL;DR

10c/kwh breakeven mining at $6414/btc
7c/kwh breakeven mining at $4489/btc
5c/kwh breakeven mining at $3207/btc...motsly industrial site have this cost, unless you are living close to a hydro dam.

Doesn't Canada have 7c and less for residents with fluid pricing contracts?



1013. Post 48094787 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 21, 2018, 03:47:20 AM
[edited out]

I agree with that, you’re pretty well balanced and debate well.  I’m just Too lazy to read everything you post.

I would llkely die, or close to die, if I had to read my posts in total.  I would not expect others to read everything, that's for sure.
Yeah, I quite enjoy reading your posts but it's very easy to burn out in the process.



1014. Post 48096046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 21, 2018, 09:47:11 AM
[edited out]

I agree with that, you’re pretty well balanced and debate well.  I’m just Too lazy to read everything you post.

I would llkely die, or close to die, if I had to read my posts in total.  I would not expect others to read everything, that's for sure.
Yeah, I quite enjoy reading your posts but it's very easy to burn out in the process.

Surely, if you are well rested, you might read three or four sentences, but if not, you might get burned out after the first few words, and ask yourself.

Why need be so long?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
It doesn't help much that I'm usually on BTCT when I'm half dead from sleep deprivation either. Tongue

Set an alarm for some trading action today and pretty much got a free Bitcorn though. So I suppose it paid off.



1015. Post 48097416 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: ninobtcx on November 21, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
One thing which currently doesn't help BTC is there's two competing chains both mining BTC and BCH and dump BTC in order to keep going.

Sure is helping me with my BTC though.



1016. Post 48125127 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on November 21, 2018, 07:35:31 PM
Where do they get these company names Cheesy

I would have an extremely cautious approach towards a company with such a name, doesn't raise much trust.

You joking? It sounds FUCKING MASSIVE. If it's big it must be good.

Here's an interesting metric - Casascius capitulation - https://twitter.com/realLudvigArt/status/1064832260124303360

There's also a tweet in there which reckons one of them is Roger Ver's, though I've no idea how they know, which makes it desperation instead.

Should we be worried?
I don't think there's any more room for not considering underestimating the importance of beginning to start the process of mulling over the conceptualization of starting to worry.


And the time to do it is... very soon.



1017. Post 48125300 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: kenzawak on November 21, 2018, 08:36:55 PM

So what kind of special does it take to hold any BCash at this point? The second they decide that burning money on a day to day basis isn't such a great idea the chains will nosedive to zero. Why even bother taking that risk for minute potential gains?



1018. Post 48125341 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on November 22, 2018, 10:56:26 AM

$1.5K incoming.

or $70k

 Naaaa, surely not?

We crossed the prior ATH of $1166 in April 2017.  

Is it really out of the question that the price could go back to April 2017?  


We are already back to August 2017.  


Should we be worried?
I don't think there's any more room for not considering underestimating the importance of beginning to start the process of mulling over the conceptualization of starting to worry.


And the time to do it is... very soon.

Nah I think I’ll just forgot to worry too. Stop fucking around with Bitmex and buy physical.


Physical gold and silver?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1i4-6pt3Dk



1019. Post 48130307 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 22, 2018, 11:56:46 AM
Has everybody started buying AGAIN now?

I bought pretty much all of my coins in 2014 & am still HODLING most of them now. I decided to stop buying when we went back to $1000 after the Gox crash. Seeing that we reached $19,xxx last year though makes me think these are cheap coins atm.

I bought some the other day & am thinking about buying again today.

So who’s buying now or are you waiting to go lower still?
I'm "unretiring" to make some dough for extra coins. Don't need it, but I've been getting bored lately and my dad could use a helping hand in his business and asked me if I was free. So might as well do something traditionally productive (as opposed to trading binges) until Christmas.



1020. Post 48247602 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: somac. on November 26, 2018, 10:02:38 AM
below 3638

a lot of coins being bought here though

$2500 test soon...! Wink weee
Not sure what’s more annoying...
Bitcoin crash or your useless posts. I’m leaning towards the latter.
The wee thing is beyond worn out .Give it up.
Seriously, just give it up already.

It's his/her/it's signature move.   

Can be annoying, but is it really worn out? 

Can a guy/gal or bot wear out a signature move, even if such move is annoying as fuck?

Certainly we know a keyboard can be worn out

I'm wondering where the weeeee thing is from exactly? is it actually a thing that people say sometimes? because I also saw it in a Japanese anime called Rosario + Vampire, in that show there was a bat that would always go weeeeeeeeeee a few times every episode. I thought it strange at the time.
I'm going to talk out of my ass and assume it's an onomatopoeia of something that is moving very fast.



1021. Post 48247764 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on November 26, 2018, 04:17:53 PM
so 3K becomes very likely, maybe we gonna get some kind of relief rally this week, but 3.4K will not be the bottom IMO

purple block is 4H orderblock, if that holds i can see a small rise up, if it breaks i see us dropping to 3K very fast


hope his wrong as i always hope Smiley

Hopefully no bear trap, I'm ready. Although I feel like it won't happen because the past week of trading has treated me way too well to keep going.

Obviously my trading stash is just a small fraction of my hodl bag so ultimately it doesn't matter, but good trades are always fun regardless.



1022. Post 48248041 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Torque on November 26, 2018, 03:53:36 PM
Great opportunity to increase your (wealth) privacy during this bear market.

At work, going out with friends ore during X-Mass dinner, people laughing at you -Bitcoin crashed hard- tears rolling over their cheeks.

Just say you sold your coin, it was not that much because it was an experiment anyway.

- raise your glass - ''Atleast i can go on free vacation next summer, thx Bitcoin''

Pull up your best poker face. Let them think you aint in the game anymore.

Keep a low profile. The next bull run will be epic.



This same thing happened the last bear market. Funny how non-investors and nocoiners act the same pretty much all the time:

During bull runs:
Angry, bitter, jealous, saying market is a bubble, waiting (and waiting, and waiting) to say I told you so

During bear markets:
Laughing, smug, saying bubble popped, it was all a scam, I told you so

In either case, they are constantly sitting out of the market(s), getting poorer and poorer, losing money as fiat supply constantly inflates and fiat purchasing power dwindles to nothing.

So who really has the last laugh?
I'd be laughing even if the nullset event of Bitcorns dying occured for real. I'm only partially in it for the money and I've prepared for losing everything since the very start.

At the end the journey will have been exciting and I'll have learned a lot on the way. So whatever comes will come. Worst case I'll start over, which isn't hard if you've started with nothing anyways.


P.S. Did I miss anything major? Been away from home and thus my PC for a bit and I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the 300 extra pages of WO. Seems like same old same old at first glance though.



1023. Post 48248258 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 26, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
Here comes the pain.
Looks like the bears just got trapped, unless the bulls are being set up right now.



1024. Post 48250823 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: jbreher on November 26, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
LN remains voluntary and relatively small and experimental...

So you concede that LN has not yet demonstrated itself to be a viable mechanism for scaling BTC. Fine.
Not sure something that's voluntary can't be viable or have been demonstrated to be such.



1025. Post 48252444 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: d_eddie on November 26, 2018, 08:09:11 PM
And deservedly so.

Do we really need a product (a note, not a fund) that is based on issuer debt? It's not even tracking bitcoin, but rather a mixed basket of crypto. Next up, please...
No, we don't. But the pleb investors do. Every bit helps adoption. Also, this one physically settles the BTC & co if I recall correctly.



1026. Post 48252765 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: yefi on November 26, 2018, 08:26:18 PM
Personally I'm all in favor of of it.

As long as we get gene upgrades. I'm not having some baby in diapers outmanoeuvring me.
Leave BCash alone, I mean it.






Roll Eyes



1027. Post 48252987 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

To the doom.



1028. Post 48253070 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Globb0 on November 25, 2018, 10:22:12 PM
My birthday tomorrow.    Cheesy   wooop




Happy birthday!



1029. Post 48253921 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 26, 2018, 09:16:32 PM
I need to examine myself

I recommend Ayahuasca, towards that end.
I'd go with Mescaline. If taken as HCl there's no purging and the experience is so pleasant that I can only barely imagine what kind of dumb shit you would have to do for things to go south.



1030. Post 48254097 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: d_eddie on November 26, 2018, 09:49:33 PM
I need to examine myself

I recommend Ayahuasca, towards that end.
I'd go with Mescaline. If taken as HCl there's no purging and the experience is so pleasant that I can only barely imagine what kind of dumb shit you would have to do for things to go south.
M is really good stuff. However, I slightly prefer Pedro extract to the pure molecule, which is a little cold and edgy. The extract is rounder, more complex, evolving. Nausea and other stomach discomfort can be managed by making the extract very concentrated and downing it a little at a time, with airtight parachutes.
I could see myself trying Peyote (as Pedros took more volume I believe) if that is true.

Are you sure you're not just tricking your mind by preferring "natural" substances though? Because Mescaline HCl (extracted from Peyote) felt like a psychedelic version of MDMA to me. I could probably be set on fire and still feel like reality is the most wonderful thing that could ever be. I honestly can't begin to imagine how anything could be even more warm and fuzzy without losing the psychedelic aspect.



1031. Post 48254137 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on November 26, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Am I the only one who feels energetically drained by these price actions ?

One of those "careful what you wish for" scenarios.
I'm enjoying the ride. Prepared for any scenario bar Bitcoin going to 0, in which case I'd resume my original plan of getting some 200-300k p.a. tech job, getting a cheap apartment, and throwing some 60-80% of my money at stocks for 10 years before retiring from slavery.



1032. Post 48254471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: d_eddie on November 26, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
I don't think I'm victim to the "If it's natural, it must be better" New Age fallacy. What does "natural" mean anyway? Low tech? Indeed, I look at selected designer drugs with favor, and choose them over "natural" depending on the intended application.

Peyote contains more M than Pedro, and less additional stuff (I mean other alkaloids).
I think it's the additional stuff that gives extra magic to Pedro.
The difference in extract volume can't make that big a difference in discomfort IMO.

I agree that M (and Pedro even more so) have a definite empathic feeling not unlike MDMA, especially at the onset, somewhere between 2:00 and 4:30. M feels subtler, less stimulant (dreamy at times) and less "pushy".  Yes I did take notes. It's been quite a while since my last time with either MDMA and anything containing mescaline.
I'm looking forward to a NYE session at home with MDMA and a few friends, been a while since I've had any of either though.


Interesting point regarding the alkaloids, haven't heard that spin to Peyote vs Pedro yet. Might have to go long on the discomfort the next time I feel like going on a trip and assess the situation myself.


M definitely feels less pushy and less stimulant. However, it was anything but subtle (at 400, 750 and 1000 mg).
The psychedelic aspect was blatantly obvious with all sorts of morphing, color changing and synesthesia. But unlike LSD, DMT, or mushrooms it was as euphoric as a full dose of MDMA (100~150mg).
Curiously enough I did not find it to be dreamy unless I removed all sensory input (which was the first time I've gotten to experience what the fuck "nothing" is all about on an experiential as opposed to intellectual level). I was actually surprised at how lucid I felt given the dosage and could even solve some integrals (which I like to do to asses my mental capabilities while using substances from time to time).


Have you tried staggering the doses to reduce the nausea or anything like that by the way?



1033. Post 48254489 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: kaeltr on November 26, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
All the drugs mentioned here lead to low Test-levels, which makes you weak and leads to stress, which further lowers Test.

In the end you will get bald and get a voice like a female. You really want that?
Not sure if retarded, troll, or retarded troll.

I haven't been stressed in at least half a decade.



1034. Post 48254711 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: empowering on November 26, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
All the drugs mentioned here are almost exclusively things one would not wish to do or even be able to do on a regular basis...and expect to function, least not int the amounts that are going to have an effect on your testosterone.

I not doing DMT every week, or even every month, or even every year,  no way there is only so much you can process as it is.

Besides, sad fact is that most mens testosterone levels have fallen significantly over the decades due to diet and the food chain. They have even lowered the standard of what is considered normal to compensate. If you are doing all you can with healthy diet and exercise, it not the worst thing if a man over the age of 40 gets testosterone therapy, to elevate your testosterone levels, am considering it, and as far as I am aware I do not need to, but I am considering getting a hormone profile done and benchmarking from there and experimenting as I approach mid 40's- 50's for optimal performance and anti ageing properties.

I saw some guys here talking earlier about gene editing and the like, I am also in favour of all of the technology and next waves of medical technology that are coming, dammit keep me alive, replace my body, load me into the cloud I am ready and willing  
  
There's a lot of interesting research from different angles being done regarding longevity and age-reversal. Already successful in worms and rodents. Let's hope China will bypass the ethical nonsense and get us there quickly.



1035. Post 48254903 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

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Right. It's the empathy that is subtler. However, OD'ing on M is quite hard in my limited experience. I've had doses over 1g (500mg HCl and estimated 600+ mg M extract) without any harm. The slow comeup probably helps to keep the bad feelings at bay.


That actually makes sense. The only time I was uncomfortable was with a 10ug ride on DOM. Which 15 minutes in was already pretty intense, whilst quickly climbing in intensity for around an hour. Totally forgot that Mescaline had a very different timeline.

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Everyone is different, and then maybe Peyote/Pedro are a bit different too after all. But I don't think I could have tackled anything beyond simple arithmetic at the peak (which, as you know, is quite lengthy). Playing even simple music was a bit of a feat: I lacked the motivation/conviction.
They were fairly simple and I solved them in my head (basically just went through the steps of variations of what I already knew). I could barely use my computer because those weird symbols didn't feel like turning into letters that make sense. On 1000mg doses that would only work before the peak as well as I would be too busy melding with music or trying to make everything disappear.


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No real staggering. Even on the highest doses, it took under 20 minutes to swallow the whole shebang. I never felt any serious stomach discomfort. I was suggested grapefruit juice as a popular folk remedy, and heeded the advice. However, I think avoiding any contact with my taste buds is what really helped.
Have you managed to do so successfully, and if so how? I jammed my salts into gelatin capsules, but that would take roughly a billion of them for powdered Pedros.



Quote from: empowering on November 26, 2018, 10:47:00 PM

There's a lot of interesting research from different angles being done regarding longevity and age-reversal. Already successful in worms and rodents. Let's hope China will bypass the ethical nonsense and get us there quickly.


For sure, I do not think there is anything stopping it.

I'm as convinced that it's just a matter of time as I am convinced that BTC is going to become as mainstream as the internet is today (e.g. on par with utilities), which is very convinced. Hopefully it'll happen in time for us. I like the idea of memory continuity over respawning.



1036. Post 48255250 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

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No real staggering. Even on the highest doses, it took under 20 minutes to swallow the whole shebang. I never felt any serious stomach discomfort. I was suggested grapefruit juice as a popular folk remedy, and heeded the advice. However, I think avoiding any contact with my taste buds is what really helped.

Right, I tried to adjust for it being on tabs, while Mescaline is not. But that's kind of done by adding one or two orders of magnitude already. Way past my bedtime.
And yeah, it was quite intense. Peaked for over 30 hours. Probably won't ever take that dose again (the vasoconstriction wasn't too pleasant so it's not worth the trade for repeats). Was quite surprised there was no ego dissolution on that dose given the intensity and duration. Unfortunately that's been the only DOx compound that I've tried so far. Haven't really been seeking out more since I like spacing things out and somehow always ended up with various other substances anyways.

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It depends how good you are at swallowing things that have a jagged papery surface. For smallish bits, cigarette papers are optimal. Larger pieces or runny stuff require sturdier wrapping, such as parchment paper (the sheets used in ovens when baking), but it increases volume even more, so I'd advise to keep them as small as possible. Hint: freezing the tar helps a lot.
That's what she said etc.
That sounds simple enough then. I've gone that route with MDMA whenever I didn't have any empty capsules at hand. Didn't think of that since the volume is much larger than any reasonable MDMA dose. But that sounds like it should do the trick.



1037. Post 48255256 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Off-topic side note. Bitcorn just can't decide where it wants to go today.



1038. Post 48255539 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

Quote from: qwizzie on November 26, 2018, 11:45:46 PM
Breaking: Numerous Bitcoin Wallets May Have Been Compromised by Rogue Developer

https://www.ccn.com/breaking-numerous-bitcoin-wallets-may-have-been-compromised-by-rogue-developer/

Haha, What timing after I posted that about infiltration methods. Lol

i knoww right Smiley

This does suck though as Copay is used in a lot of wallets / applications.
Inb4 major exchanges using Copay cold wallets. Bitcorn is ded.



1039. Post 48263187 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: empowering on November 27, 2018, 01:36:00 AM
I saw some guys here talking earlier about gene editing and the like, I am also in favour of all of the technology and next waves of medical technology that are coming, dammit keep me alive, replace my body, load me into the cloud I am ready and willing  

The problem with self-preservation is that we may end up losing the self in the process. It may be an obvious decision we must make or it may be insidious.

I hear you... also I wonder if mental health would become a problem, not necessarily an insurmountable one..

Maybe we live in simulations, and have finite lives to preserve our sanity.

Shit man, we really DO live in a simulation already its all true


Did we all pick the "Bitcoin adventure, nightmare edition"


Holy fuck man it all makes sense all of a sudden

 Grin
What if God had a multiple personality disorder ...that he gave to himself?



1040. Post 48263355 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 27, 2018, 03:51:06 AM
man

I remember real MDMA

I don't think they have that any more
They do (as actual rocks, not the pressed garbage that nobody knows what it contains). And it's dirt cheap. Wouldn't ever take anything else since you can't know the dosage of pills without substantial effort.



1041. Post 48263469 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: Paashaas on November 27, 2018, 04:48:01 AM
Bye bye BCash.

https://medium.com/coinmonks/bye-bye-bcash-good-riddance-to-bad-actors-71dd926eb38b
What a beautiful post to wake up to.



1042. Post 48277887 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.16h):

Quote from: kingcolex on November 27, 2018, 07:26:14 PM
People need to get their coins the fk off of Coinbase. I'm sure that they are fractional reserve, and doing OTC for whales will probably make it much worse. Plebs will be 'leasing' what they think are their coins from the market makers.

In a run to sell in a crash, who do you think will get their orders filled first: Whales or the plebs?

Seen this movie before, it's exactly what happens with stocks in the stock market.

Coinbase - the world's first bank that doesn't pay you interest.  Click here to open an account.
I get exactly 0% interest in my bank. This is normal. Won't be long until we have to pay for the privilege of lending them money.
Already happens in Europe just google their bond market.
Pretty sure people get something like 0.1% in Europe. With almost zero risk!



1043. Post 48357402 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 30, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
Just merited a quote instead of the original.

You guys look all the same with that hats.

 ?? These hats are more unique than a Bitcoin address.



I will wear mine when this signature campaign I’m in ends. I sort of want to wear it now & wave the pay from the campaign but I’ll wait until it ends Grin

LFC hat will be worn early New Year!

Will this hat fad last until the new year?  you could become a late adopter, perhaps?
What the fuck do you mean "fad"?



1044. Post 48357508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 30, 2018, 08:37:39 PM
Just merited a quote instead of the original.

You guys look all the same with that hats.

 ?? These hats are more unique than a Bitcoin address.



I will wear mine when this signature campaign I’m in ends. I sort of want to wear it now & wave the pay from the campaign but I’ll wait until it ends Grin

LFC hat will be worn early New Year!

Will this hat fad last until the new year?  you could become a late adopter, perhaps?
What the fuck do you mean "fad"?

A fad is like a trend/fashion that passes. Kind of like a haircut or sneakers that aren’t cool for long
I'm not sure if you're trying to whoosh me or not.



1045. Post 48402384 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 02, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
Good morning guys.

Looks like a quiet Sunday is developing as Bulls and Bears pause to regain strength after a mild Saturday trading session. I would even go so far as to say there might be a buy the dip opportunity but I am remaining cautious of how much of a rebound we will see. With somewhat positive news coming from the G20 summit in Argentina about a 90 day calming period over US/China trade sanctions I believe legacy markets will see a recovery this coming week. This could lead to increased speculation which will bring volatility back in to play.


The same resistance/support area's are still $4.220k/$3.772k   Breaking thru either direction is going to take some work and will bring a clearer signal to the market.  


Don't you think if the weekly candle closes around this level ($4K+) in a few hours that would be a bullish signal in itself?
By that logic we would've been in a bull market since 6k. So no, I don't think closing around this level is necessarily bullish.

We've also been descending for the past few days since the last high (~4400) and 2h/4h/6h/12h charts look bearish more than anything. Can see either another drop, or a reversal that could be followed by either another drop or the beginning of the next bull market. In either case, a lot of people are going to get rekt trying to trade this.



1046. Post 48403287 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 02, 2018, 07:16:05 PM

I'm not even going to be surprised when the very same "managers" end up starting another fund in a few months from now rather than having their reputation annihilated and becoming obsolete to anyone and everyone.



1047. Post 48413541 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 02, 2018, 10:47:58 PM
He called the bottom at $10k.

He called the bottom at $6k.

He called the bottom at $3.5k.

Eventually he will be right. 
Bottom is $0. Bitcorn was worth nothing a few years ago. I'm the greatest guru mankind has ever seen.



1048. Post 48413646 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: yefi on December 03, 2018, 12:01:11 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.



1049. Post 48413712 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 03, 2018, 12:15:02 AM

imagine that 128 moths would be terrible long F*** who would even make up such a meme Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/LordCatoshi/status/1069319697550725121

what some guys make up Roll Eyes fun to watch ...^
Check the 10 year chart on Deutsche Bank's stock:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DB/deutsche-bank-aktiengesellschaft/stock-price-history



1050. Post 48413912 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 03, 2018, 06:22:40 AM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.



1051. Post 48414772 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 03, 2018, 09:02:26 AM

imagine that 128 moths would be terrible long F*** who would even make up such a meme Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/LordCatoshi/status/1069319697550725121

what some guys make up Roll Eyes fun to watch ...^
Check the 10 year chart on Deutsche Bank's stock:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DB/deutsche-bank-aktiengesellschaft/stock-price-history

Can’t compare BTC with a filthy bank though....

We are going to the moon and beyond while those banks are in for doom and deeper Roll Eyes
I just wanted to use the opportunity of showing off a 10 year bear market as an excuse to make fun of DB. They're fucking twats and will hopefully implode like Lehman Brothers did.



1052. Post 48415579 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 03, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
Banks in general have always made the most of their profit by interest on lending. Before the crisis, they started giving mortgages to everyone and their mother without any due diligence.... then the defaults came so instead of profit for every mortgage they got loses. Now they are way more careful on lending money, which basically means they are not "selling" their main product. The future looks dark for them.

I remember the time (before the nineties) when if someone wanted a home he had to pay upfront a good amount to the builder, and then go on paying monthly way before the house was even finished building. No mortages bullshit. Banks were not such a big deal. HOusing prices were low as shit.

All the fucking problem of the last decades has been because of lending money to the plebs. That made them think they were "rich" when they weren't. And banks "banked" like bandits on that stupid feeling.

If you borrow money because you don't have it, then you will always stay poor. Only borrow money when you are leveraging for a biggest (safe) return. If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.

People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.

Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.
When I was a student I invested large parts of my student loan, but my professional path has been more or less laid out thanks to long planning (knew before 18 that I wanted to be able to retire around 30-40) so I knew in what proportion I could put loans at stake without destroying myself in any worst case scenario. I made sure to have exceptional grades in a highly sought after field though, so the probability of me failing along the way were virtually negligible and the cost of default was zero (e.g. no job = exemption from repaying the loan without any downsides on my part). In that situation not taking the risk and potentially fixing an error of judgement down the path would've been irrational.

I've seen other plebs do the same (with non-student loans) from a much worse starting position implode though, so you're certainly right. Most people don't know how to manage risk and just go a path of blind faith and there are tons of predatory types just waiting to prey on them.

Either way, the banks are just filling a niche. The real problem are all the idiots who are waiting for the stars to magically align instead of taking their life into their own hands. And the absolute worst are the very same idiots who channel their energy into nagging governments to bend them backwards by legalizing a billion fucking pronouns for idiots who can't just be honest and say that they either always or sometimes prefer dick. Like a bunch of toddlers telling on their siblings instead of learning how not to be a helpless retard.



1053. Post 48415604 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 09:57:20 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.
That cycle is equivalent to what Bitcorn is doing. Things get really great, then implode to a level higher than anything before. Rinse and repeat. Sure we might drop from our ATHs (if even), but we're still on an upward slope.



1054. Post 48415637 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
Data/information is only as good as its source. Highest level being 15, not bullish. Edit: Bitcoin Cash has a "16". 

Bitcoin SV? 100.

#justsayin'

Actually only 86 currently...was 100 2 weeks ago.

No. The term is not bitcoin+cash+sv, it is bitcoin+sv. And it is trending currently at 100.

Even if it were 86, you are still making my point for me.
Wasn't the last Coingeek conference proof enough that BCash SV is all about the establishment taking control? "It's time for Bitcoin to grow up" - Coingeek shills.

Technical debates aside, it's obvious that BCash SV doesn't align with the interests of the people.



1055. Post 48422688 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 10:36:23 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not aware of a single case in which that stroke true.

Civilizations that imploded generally didn't just up and vanish, they became part of a civilization under a different name. Generally ones that start off better than the imploded generation did, with a higher peak of prosperity than the one before.

If humanity doesn't get instantly wiped out I'll just use what I worked for to relocate and not run into any of the problems you mention, as did others before me for quite literally all of human history.



1056. Post 48422849 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 11:23:02 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.

As BITCOINMILLIONAIRE said, even if we were on the verge of an implosion/collapse, we would still end better than we were a few decades ago. It's not like we are going to go back to stone age.
Do you understand what a soviet style collapse implies?

Stalin, 50 million dead. Mao, even more, maybe as high as 100 million. Cambodia, a full third of the population died. And on and on. Two hundred million corpses give or take.

The EU wants an army, and at this rate they will get it. It will be used against the civilian population, just as the above gentlemen did.

Thousands of migrants are heading to the US border. They will be gunned down if they try to cross, or more will come, and it will never stop. In europe they are already here and entrenched. EU wants to make criticism of immigration illegal, and again, it will likely happen.

And of course we all know how the economy is doing.

If the US ends up losing its global leadership position, that will lead to chaos on a global scale as the power vacuum is filled by someone else.

It's a perfect storm of all the things that can go wrong all at once, and there are no positives of any meaningful impact.
The economy is doing fantastic. All those numbers are pretty irrelevant. Fact is, we have shit that kings a few decades ago couldn't have dreamed of. And at prices so low that even the lowest of plebs can afford them.

The probability of another soviet style collapse taking place in the west is also very low, much more so if you'd insist on a collapse of the entire western world simultaneously. Hence, in the worst case event that you imply there's room to relocate for anyone who prepared accordingly and then some.



1057. Post 48422976 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Elwar on December 03, 2018, 01:02:07 PM
My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
Yes. Because I'd keep less in fiat due to ease of conversion despite the volatility.



1058. Post 48423138 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: infofront on December 03, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.
I prefer monogamy, given a proper candidate, over fucking around. Trading shitcoins can be nice and all, but at the end I would prefer a decent partner and family. YMMV



1059. Post 48423211 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: infofront on December 03, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.
You have a great time jizzing a load of money away on nothing important. Occasionally you get a freebie or build up an affiliation. Your one twu luv is unaffected except that you might build up your skills and not make the same mistakes there.

Thanks. I guess my frame of reference was off, as I think twu luvs and soulmates are fictional.

I see nothing wrong with a rich guy blowing his money on whores for his entire life, if he wants. It seemed to have worked out well for Hef.
I do believe that they are. But that doesn't mean that you can't invest the same amount of resources into a relationship as you do into assets or life skills.

For reference, I don't see anything wrong with that lifestyle either. I just prefer treating every aspect of my life roughly the same, which is giving it my all if I actually bother to pursue at all.



1060. Post 48423306 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
why to sell new money for old money - the mind boggles  Huh Undecided

people don't sell, do this only manipulators
People definitely sell, the goal is end with more than you started and without trading ever you only have hope and timing on when you spend.
I trade, but with a small fraction of my hodl stash. There's certainly more money to be made in trading than in hodling, but it's not an easy path at all and in most cases one is best advised to not try to play the market game.

I love the challenge though and appreciate all the things that I learn in a roundabout way by trying to improve my trading skills. Regardless of whether or not it pays financially.



1061. Post 48423499 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 03, 2018, 04:01:47 PM

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".
If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience.



1062. Post 48423558 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on December 03, 2018, 04:30:18 PM
Most males are jealous of these rich playboys that have sluts lining up to fuck them.

These guys say they prefer true love and such but they are really just jealous they aren't in their shoes.
I've turned down a solid number of females because I just simply didn't care for them. True love is a myth, but putting effort into one single partner is not.

In reference to your post about happiness (or lack thereof) due to iPhones and whatnot. If you don't put your all into whatever aspects of life you choose you won't be happy, period. Easy sex can be taking the easy way out and lead to depression just like anything else.

Basically, whatever your ideals are, if you try to shortcut your way into them you'll be much more likely to be miserable. And we live in a world in which instant gratification is so easily obtainable that people have become complacent and thus become more depressed on average.



1063. Post 48423627 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 04:19:58 PM
Capitulation is definitely in, every post is that crypto is going down and nothing can stop it. Coindesk is declaring it crypto winter and we need to wuick looking at the price. People are memeing that Bitcoin is just a downward ride.

It's here and we may have already hit bottom or not but we're fucking close with that continuous Doom and gloom mindset.

We won't have capitulated until we stop talking about capitulation. We won't have bottommed until we stop talking about bottoms.
Which includes bottom pictures?  Sad
That's what I'm here for, I followed booty pictures on Google images and accidentally ended up being invested into crypto and stressing about price on the daily.
Was about to send my last sMerit, but I'll save it for some non-Legendary. 11/10 though.



1064. Post 48424096 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
I'll be the odd man out, I believe in soulmates. Maybe it's just dumb luck or maybe it's something else but I think a lot of things are meant to be.
I'm very open for the idea, because some of the things that happened in my life were just too fucking weird for me to explain.
There have been numerous instances where I just had a weird gut feeling that basically yelled at me to go down a path that turned out pretty much picture perfect.

But I've studied enough statistics to know that it could very well be bullshit, so I'm not too invested in either case. Hoping for a "game over screen" that will clear this up after death (though not as much as for longevity and indefinite life spans).



1065. Post 48424141 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2018, 05:07:42 PM
What world are you living in if you say life has never been better?  Ya these iphone and itablets bring true joy to our lives..........................

I'm quite fond of sanitation and central heating...
I love food, and I'm very picky. I'd probably kill myself over an average meal from the past at this point (not really but close enough).

Also, WO.



1066. Post 48425584 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 05:49:35 PM

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".
If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience.
Name two... no, three!
Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.

And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.

If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.



1067. Post 48425643 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Realerre on December 03, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
Dear hodlers,
I was an assidous poster in the "hodl" thread, I hodled for many years, because I know I am a bad trader.

I felt a little bit scared during 2014 or so, but my investment was so little I didn't give really a fuck. During 2017 I turned maniac and I felt overinvested, but I did hodl as I was told to do. During 2018 I felt scared, but I hodled tight my paper wallet as i watched my new fortune fade away.

Now, almost 2019, I turned on my old bitstamp account. I felt emotional when I retyped the password after many time, I know I am a bad trader and I shouldn't do thing like that. But I did.

Today, I bought.

In reality, my fiat is still travelling thought the bank system and my bank will require all today and tomorrow and a part of the day after in order to send the money, but I'm going to buy.

It's a very small sum, but that's the first time since 2013 that I felt that hodling is not enough.

Just checked in to write the mandatory wo post when someone buy or sell Smiley
Buying at this level sounds like a good trade to me. Just don't try to sell the top while dropping and never go all out. Do cash out some small portions of your profits during the next rally though, that way you'll hopefully be calmer during the next storm.



1068. Post 48425755 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Inb4 "not a pedophile but trans-age"

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/12/03/world/europe/ap-eu-netherlands-age-change.html



1069. Post 48426046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 06:27:08 PM

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".
If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience.
Name two... no, three!
Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.

And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.

If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.
Sword Art Online is fantasy. Even a real version would be just that, another game. Also look up TFM on youtube. No more hints.

Life extending technology will come, but not within the next hundred years. Sorry.

Where is the third?
"Every cutting edge of any discipline or art" is a number so large that we'd spend at least numerous days creating a list.
If you go down a single path long enough you eventually realize that there is absolutely no end in sight to any endeavour that a human could possibly pursue. Quite on the contrary, the more you find the more potential questions you inevitably create.
It doesn't stop here either, the rate at which you create new information (and henceforth objects and experiences) accelerates indefinitely. Hence, a literally infinite amount of potential new discoveries waits anywhere you decide to focus on.


The remainder of my post was just an example which you grossly underestimated. By the time we have that level of VR we'll also be able to process much larger amounts of information and hence be capable of creating an abundance of worlds that humans are incapable of conceiving of today.

Whether or not you choose to call that "just another game" is up to you, but life is virtually indistinguishable from games beyond the fact that you're dumped into this world as opposed to going through a character creation menu or just jumping straight into the game.
And even that is questionable, as even the mere prospect of creating such virtual worlds while also being capable of manipulation memories begs the question: Have we chosen to play the game that we call life and willfully removed any trace of doing so to increase immersion or otherwise alter the experience?



1070. Post 48426534 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 03, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.

And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.

If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.

Reasonable people can certainly disagree on this, and I recognize that my preferences are largely aesthetic, but your post illustrates a stark divergence between our worldviews.

I believe that the Hobbesian fallacy is perpetuated as part of an effort to get us to accept what I see as continually degrading aesthetic expectations of the world around us.  I understand that a global primary forest has no objective superiority to a global megalopolis, but for myself I have decided that I can tell a green field from a cold steel rail.  I know which I prefer, call it religion if you must.

You are really ready to accept a prepared VR experience as your life?  OK, that's fine, I'm not.
Since there's no need to choose right now I haven't made any calls as of yet, but would probably hover between what we call life now and all sorts of virtual experiences of the future (should I live to see the day).

However, it would be a fallacy to assume that we aren't already in a situation where we chose this "reality" whilst erasing memories of doing so. And while you can tell the clumsily put together approximations of reality that we have now apart from the "real thing" the gap is rapidly closing. At some point you won't be able to tell which is which bar remembering.

What if you erased your memory of this life not being "real" precisely because you found out that nothing really is and you felt like pretending that something was ground reality?


Anyhow, that example was merely one that I hoped would hammer the nail in the coffin. The point being that your own imagination, efforts, and available time are the only relevant limits to creating or discovering new types of experience. Increasingly so as our abilities to process information and create out of it becomes better over time.



1071. Post 48426635 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 06:52:33 PM
Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.

And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.

If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.
Sword Art Online is fantasy. Even a real version would be just that, another game. Also look up TFM on youtube. No more hints.

Life extending technology will come, but not within the next hundred years. Sorry.

Where is the third?
"Every cutting edge of any discipline or art" is a number so large that we'd spend at least numerous days creating a list.
If you go down a single path long enough you eventually realize that there is absolutely no end in sight to any endeavour that a human could possibly pursue. Quite on the contrary, the more you find the more potential questions you inevitably create.
It doesn't stop here either, the rate at which you create new information (and henceforth objects and experiences) accelerates indefinitely. Hence, a literally infinite amount of potential new discoveries waits anywhere you decide to focus on.


The remainder of my post was just an example which you grossly underestimated. By the time we have that level of VR we'll also be able to process much larger amounts of information and hence be capable of creating an abundance of worlds that humans are incapable of conceiving of today.

Whether or not you choose to call that "just another game" is up to you, but life is virtually indistinguishable from games beyond the fact that you're dumped into this world as opposed to going through a character creation menu or just jumping straight into the game.
And even that is questionable, as even the mere prospect of creating such virtual worlds while also being capable of manipulation memories begs the question: Have we chosen to play the game that we call life and willfully removed any trace of doing so to increase immersion or otherwise alter the experience?
Quit stalling and name one more thing mister no-goals-in-life.
There is no stalling taking place from my side. If you're still not getting the point you're either not trying or trolling.

In either case, you're the problem if you're not satisfied with life as it is. Weren't right-wingers supposed to be all about taking responsibility of one's own life? How come then that you're avoiding the obvious limitless amounts of knowledge and experiences that life offers virtually everywhere?

Not sure what the fuck "mister no goals in life" is supposed to mean here either. By the sounds of it you have resigned from life before you even started.


Edit:

In case you're literally retarded and not just baiting though, let me spell it out. You take a random discipline, say Physics. Now you look at recent papers. Voila, you've got a horizon beyond which there's undiscovered possibilities. Rinse and repeat by replacing Physics with literally anything else. And a 4th one for good measure: Crypto. Still shaping up. Or did your 8ball tell you what is going to happen to the tee?


Edit2:

You missed space travel from my original post. Which put us at three to begin with and thus suggests that you're not even reading the posts.

Hence, you're a Roach level troll who starts shit, keeps baiting and who is not worth anyone's time. Prove me wrong or fuck off to ignore. Cheers.



1072. Post 48427070 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Ibian on December 03, 2018, 07:31:58 PM
Okay so your goal in life is to play sword art online the actual real game where you can i guess play all sorts of instruments that don't and couldn't exist in real life when you are five hundred years old.

Alrighty then.
Illiterate, retarded, or shadow of Roach. In either case, since you ask shit and don't put in the effort of digesting a response I'll treat you the way you ask to be treated. By putting you on ignore.

P.S. The way you get hung up over some shitty anime (which you brought up) seems pretty unhealthy. If VR = SAO to you you're even more narrow-minded than I ever could've given you credit for. You didn't strike me as a neckbeard retard before, but damn do things change quickly around Bitcorn. Good luck in life kid.



1073. Post 48427272 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 03, 2018, 07:34:20 PM
These Bitcorn prices aren't making any sense.

I'm starting to get the fear.

Fuck.

Not good.

Not good at all.
No need to get worried until <2k. So far we're just repeating the same old same old.



1074. Post 48427596 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 03, 2018, 07:58:01 PM
Banks in general have always made the most of their profit by interest on lending. Before the crisis, they started giving mortgages to everyone and their mother without any due diligence.... then the defaults came so instead of profit for every mortgage they got loses. Now they are way more careful on lending money, which basically means they are not "selling" their main product. The future looks dark for them.

I remember the time (before the nineties) when if someone wanted a home he had to pay upfront a good amount to the builder, and then go on paying monthly way before the house was even finished building. No mortages bullshit. Banks were not such a big deal. HOusing prices were low as shit.

All the fucking problem of the last decades has been because of lending money to the plebs. That made them think they were "rich" when they weren't. And banks "banked" like bandits on that stupid feeling.

If you borrow money because you don't have it, then you will always stay poor. Only borrow money when you are leveraging for a biggest (safe) return. If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.

People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.

Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.
When I was a student I invested large parts of my student loan, but my professional path has been more or less laid out thanks to long planning (knew before 18 that I wanted to be able to retire around 30-40) so I knew in what proportion I could put loans at stake without destroying myself in any worst case scenario. I made sure to have exceptional grades in a highly sought after field though, so the probability of me failing along the way were virtually negligible and the cost of default was zero (e.g. no job = exemption from repaying the loan without any downsides on my part). In that situation not taking the risk and potentially fixing an error of judgement down the path would've been irrational.

I've seen other plebs do the same (with non-student loans) from a much worse starting position implode though, so you're certainly right. Most people don't know how to manage risk and just go a path of blind faith and there are tons of predatory types just waiting to prey on them.

Either way, the banks are just filling a niche. The real problem are all the idiots who are waiting for the stars to magically align instead of taking their life into their own hands. And the absolute worst are the very same idiots who channel their energy into nagging governments to bend them backwards by legalizing a billion fucking pronouns for idiots who can't just be honest and say that they either always or sometimes prefer dick. Like a bunch of toddlers telling on their siblings instead of learning how not to be a helpless retard.


I did a similar thing regarding investing some of my student loans.

In fact, I have made such attempts all of my life, since graduating from highschool and not having much of a salary.  I pretty much took at least 10% of my post highschool income and I made investments with it.  Some of them were not the best of investments (especially because my inclination has always been relatively low rish because i wanted to have a certain confidence that my return was going to be greater than my borrowing costs), but the practice has always been kinds of dollar cost averaging attempts.

I did not go to college right after high school, but instead started college several years after finishing high school, but I considered the student loan money to be interest free ability to attempt to get returns on "free money" and to build up my nest egg of investment money.. continuing little by little.. and really taking a large number of years to accomplish such building up of decent amounts.
Yeah it makes a lot of sense depending on the rules of the student loans available. The biggest plus for me wasn't the low interest rate, but the fact that there's no issue with defaulting. Hence, I didn't have to worry if I didn't find a job right away or decided to change paths.
I'm actually surprised that investing parts of student loans (where plausible) isn't the norm. You're usually going to spend the money anyways, if not on investments then on booze or whatever floats your boat.

Not sure how sensible that would be in the US, as I've seen some outrageous interest rates and conditions over there. But given the amount of states and their own individual fuckery there could well be some reasonable student loans that basically beg for arbitrage.



1075. Post 48427638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 03, 2018, 07:51:12 PM
If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.

People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.

Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.

Nothing in this world allows you the increase your financial stability, your profits and your social status like borrowing a hella amount of money.

Though of course you must be smart about what you do with the investments.

I just borrowed 250k€, that's about 7 years of salary for me. The interests are basically 0 if you take inflation into consideration so that's basically just me borrowing to my future self to increase my current income ^^

If I could borrow 4M€ I would Cheesy

What is your timeline on paying back the loan?   

So your wager would be that bitcoin is going to perform better than your loan for the term of the loan or at least not perform so bad that you are not able to pay back the loan at the end of the term.


It does not sound like a great idea, but if you are buying BTC now (with the proceeds of a loan), then it seems better than buying at higher prices - even $6k or $10k or $17k... But still risky.
I wouldn't take up any type of private loan if I didn't know that I could pay it off even if I burnt through the whole amount. With government backed loans I couldn't care much less if I fucked up since nobody would get harmed by my actions.



1076. Post 48427721 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 03, 2018, 08:10:07 PM
Data/information is only as good as its source. Highest level being 15, not bullish. Edit: Bitcoin Cash has a "16". 

Bitcoin SV? 100.

#justsayin'

Actually only 86 currently...was 100 2 weeks ago.

No. The term is not bitcoin+cash+sv, it is bitcoin+sv. And it is trending currently at 100.

Even if it were 86, you are still making my point for me.

In this thread, we already know that part of the motivation of the bcash forks has been to attempting to put bitcoin back into their name(s), but I doubt that anyone here is going to give bcash such satisfaction, and recommendations from a bcash shill, like yourself, is not going to divert us into such phoney baloney trickery of calling either of the bcash forks as some form of bitcoin.

Get it into your bcash shilling head, the bcash forks are still going to be referred to as bcash.. because they are not bitcoin.. forking from bcash does not cause them to be bitcoin, but instead causes them to be variations of bcash... so we have bcash abc and bcash sv.... Seem pretty apparent for anyone who is not caught up in the myth that bcash has value.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes   Tongue
But omg Bitcoin has to do teh growing upz (and be regulated to death) -Coingeek clowns 11/2018



1077. Post 48428051 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 03, 2018, 08:21:30 PM
R.I.P ETC  Kiss



Fuck!
Market still didn't get the news. Is it possible to short ETC anywhere? Roll Eyes



1078. Post 48429212 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2018, 09:38:41 PM
With government backed loans I couldn't care much less if I fucked up since everybody would get harmed by my actions.

ftfy
First, drop in the ocean.

Second, if taxes weren't so outrageously high hardly anybody would even need student loans.


Thanks for re-enforcing your support in BCash SV though.



1079. Post 48429236 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 03, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
how many how early etc ....

3:36pm CST 


I've been eyeing oil pens, but the availability of concentrates sucks too much to bother over here. Hopefully Europe will follow the US and Canada by 2020.



1080. Post 48429263 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2018, 09:49:30 PM
But omg Bitcoin has to do teh growing upz (and be regulated to death) -Coingeek clowns 11/2018

- not an actual quote

cheers!
Bar paraphrasing it's pretty accurate to the Coingeek conference. Especially the talk of that woman with the ASIC hammer (which was pretty sweet to be honest, the hammer, not the talk).



1081. Post 48429280 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: jbreher on December 03, 2018, 09:58:58 PM
any coin be it btrash or etc that has their goal to be flippening has the wrong goal.

World reserve money is the goal. The flippening is only a side effect.
Flippening VerHanWright's wealth into dirt?



1082. Post 48429512 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 03, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
TIL tumblr is a blogging platform. I thought ... uh well never mind
A fetish site? Yeah me too.
Guess we've all been taken for a ride.



1083. Post 48441780 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 04, 2018, 03:41:40 AM
My comment also includes a reference to Bob's representation that he was going to give beers to everyone if the BTC price goes below "x".... BTC price went below "x" and he weasled as good as any disingenuous person that you cannot rely upon at his word.   

OK fucker.

You just had to push me.

I just had to sneak a peek and see whatever nonsense you are crying on about, with respect to not writing checks my mouth has cashed.

You are so fucking pompously entitled that it sickens me.

If you, for ONE FUCKING MOMENT, think that I was not honest in my desire to follow through with the intention of buying everyone in this thread a beer, then go fuck yourself.

It would have become an OpSec and logistical nightmare; I think even you can see that.

That's why I ultimately "weasled" <sic> out of it, while trying to do so with humor and grace.

But now seeing this bullshit pettiness from you has me seeing red, and I'm contemplating possibly violating my OpSec to follow through (eg: Any user within 20 pages either way of "that" post can ping me for $7 USD worth of BTC to put towards a beer purchase.)

It's not even the fucking value of the BTC. It's just that if I make a "good natured, boastful" post like I do in the past, fail spectacularly - repeatedly - everyone get's a chuckle out of it, and nobody gets hurt, then I don't understand your deal, man. It's called "talking shit" and "bantz", you dumb-fuck.

JJG, if you want your fucking free beer, and finally put your "grievance" with me to bed, find out what the BTC/USD price was, on the day of my post, post your address here in this thread publicly, and I'll figure out some non-OpSec breaking-way to buy your pussy ass a fucking beer and post the TX.

In fact, compile me a fucking list of all users within 20 pages each way of my "free beer" post, and I'll send them BTC (back-valued to $7 at the time of whatever it was when I posted) for a fucking beer, if they drop me a PM.

Then when I see you at the $100K party, you MUST attend, and you MUST allow me to give you a clean right-cross square across your smug fucking face.

Deal ?
I assumed this whole beer/party thing was more of a shitpost than anything else due opsec from the very start. Is the party actually real now, and if so, how the fuck do people stay safe? Hanging out with some of the WO shitposters sounds great, but I don't see how that could take place without introducing unnecessary risk.



1084. Post 48441793 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

On another note. The WO drama indicator is reaching all-time highs, which implies an extremely violent reversal into the next bull market. 1 BTC = 1 Lambo inc.



1085. Post 48441952 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 04, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
My comment also includes a reference to Bob's representation that he was going to give beers to everyone if the BTC price goes below "x".... BTC price went below "x" and he weasled as good as any disingenuous person that you cannot rely upon at his word.   

OK fucker.

You just had to push me.

I just had to sneak a peek and see whatever nonsense you are crying on about, with respect to not writing checks my mouth has cashed.

You are so fucking pompously entitled that it sickens me.

If you, for ONE FUCKING MOMENT, think that I was not honest in my desire to follow through with the intention of buying everyone in this thread a beer, then go fuck yourself.

It would have become an OpSec and logistical nightmare; I think even you can see that.

That's why I ultimately "weasled" <sic> out of it, while trying to do so with humor and grace.

But now seeing this bullshit pettiness from you has me seeing red, and I'm contemplating possibly violating my OpSec to follow through (eg: Any user within 20 pages either way of "that" post can ping me for $7 USD worth of BTC to put towards a beer purchase.)

It's not even the fucking value of the BTC. It's just that if I make a "good natured, boastful" post like I do in the past, fail spectacularly - repeatedly - everyone get's a chuckle out of it, and nobody gets hurt, then I don't understand your deal, man. It's called "talking shit" and "bantz", you dumb-fuck.

JJG, if you want your fucking free beer, and finally put your "grievance" with me to bed, find out what the BTC/USD price was, on the day of my post, post your address here in this thread publicly, and I'll figure out some non-OpSec breaking-way to buy your pussy ass a fucking beer and post the TX.

In fact, compile me a fucking list of all users within 20 pages each way of my "free beer" post, and I'll send them BTC (back-valued to $7 at the time of whatever it was when I posted) for a fucking beer, if they drop me a PM.

Then when I see you at the $100K party, you MUST attend, and you MUST allow me to give you a clean right-cross square across your smug fucking face.

Deal ?
I assumed this whole beer/party thing was more of a shitpost than anything else due opsec from the very start. Is the party actually real now, and if so, how the fuck do people stay safe? Hanging out with some of the WO shitposters sounds great, but I don't see how that could take place without introducing unnecessary risk.
We live in a dangerous world Roll Eyes
100k coins i suggest BOB would be sending Pm invitations to a Nice place somewhere carribean or so and you can just go with your AvatarHAT on top of you, Then we know who is who. Cheesy from there we Will see what happens next

That actually sounds reasonable.



1086. Post 48442133 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: YourMother on December 04, 2018, 06:45:00 AM
We haven't seen the bounce yet.

From 2014 until now i’ve seen at least Six 2x reversals after severe dumping like this.
_____________

Additionally

Do not ignore the altcoin market and its significance in catapulting the price of BTC back in 2017 and soon in 2019-2020. The current capitulation has sent some of the legit alternative blockchain projects to insanely low marketcaps (talking about the sub $15M), so low that people might get FOMO on them once again, generate enough 10-50x returns to create a snowball effect, and contribute to the catalyst of the next crypto bull run in the process.

The altcoin market is here to stay and the hundreds of legit projects of today and tomorrow will continue to create demand and drive the price of BTC up. For the ignorant BTC maximalists: do not underestimate the 47% altcoin market share and the hundreds of thousands of lines of codes that are being written every day to improve the ecosystem.  

 
Very accurate. Not going to shill in WO, but will repeat myself again. There are legitimate alts with increasingly bright prospects. BTC will replace fiat. Alts will become modern equity. There are opportunities to throw money at early stage giants, and throwing some BTC at them will help increase any BTC stash with much less risk than trading (which doesn't make it risk-free, dyor).



1087. Post 48442165 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 04, 2018, 06:49:33 AM
Well, should probably go without saying, I rescind my offer of throwing a $100k party, if/when the milestone is achieved. If I've fucked up an intended good-faith beer offering in this thread so badly due to bad planning/foresight on my part or whatever, I have no business pondering more grandiose "events". Not to mention the considerable scorn I have accrued, bearing down upon me, is beginning to weigh heavily on me.

All my calls have turned out to be contrarian, looking back through the lens of retrospection.

I offer nothing of value to this thread.

I should just delete this account and get on with life in meatspace...
Just stick around and see what you've learned during the next cycle. That's how life should go. Fucking off now would be what the plebs do to stay in the 99%.



1088. Post 48442386 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: yefi on December 04, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
I am not sure this thread attracts that many risk adverse types.

Sure it would be just fine thou Wink

[...]
 
(I'm sure it wouldn't turn into a lord of the flies type scenario... honestly, it will be juuuuust fine Wink )

I'm thinking it'll be more like the Japanese movie Battle Royale.


@Boblawblaw - Very kind & generous offer to the WO boys here but I’m not going to take $7 off you man. Buy yourself a drink with the $7 that was meant for me.

Perhaps the declined beer money could be donated to a charity instead?
Free Ross? In the spirit of Bitcorns and freedom.



1089. Post 48442404 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 04, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
Hey guys.... Lets not plan the funeral yet pls? First i want to be able to experience a peak ATH as well okay?  Cheesy
So you made an account on the very day of the ATH (temporary, previous) then you buggerred about with mining a few months later.
What's up with you man? did you not buy at the top liek a good noob?
What on earth is your problem... Check my account; i'm around here for years...
true; i didnt believe in bitcoin and missed some good opportunitys, but i've made up for that and am aquiring them thru mining, yes.
Whats your excuse?
Please forgive my rudeness. I can't make sense of the bolded parts. Do you have a link where you say you've been around for years? I must have missed it.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Roll Eyes



1090. Post 48443233 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 04, 2018, 01:35:19 PM
Ok. See. Right there is one of the reasons I outright ignored JJG.

Even though I'm pretty sure JayJuanGee is a Google chat bot that just cut and pastes things from dictionaries, from an outside, non-biased perspective, I would say he has more shitcoin credibility due to the fact BOB was telling everyone NOT to sell at the top while he was dumping everything.  Then he typed something like "thanks guys, I'm now a millionaire" right after.  It was something resembling an altcoin pump and dump group from the year 2013.

He didn't say it once, but numerous times telling all the other shitcoiners in the thread not to sell while he was.  Lucky for Bob, I seem to be the only person that remembers that.

He's right, you know?

I may not be the smarter guy in the class, but I do have an exceptionally good memory and that's not how things were. Everyone is free to go back and check all Bob's posts of december past year. I don't need to. He announced his plan of cashing out enough for retirement well in advance. And every time after he sold a batch. Sometimes even before.

Also he was millionaire way before. And just the Bcash stash alone that he sold months before the ATH amounted for nearly a millionaire figure.
This tallies with the record.
roach just made up some shit and repeated the lies there^.
Mr mayor was on much safer ground when he recently brought back to the fore that I was wrongly bullish way after the top, but so what?
Guess it's part of the grieving process, to try and impugn others, or lash out, or whatever is going on.
Did the Mayor capitulate completely? Haven't seen him in a while.



1091. Post 48443405 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 04, 2018, 01:44:36 PM
We have a $250 bounce since last night, what signals should we expect to see of a true recovery trend?
I'd be 99% convinced once we're back at ~6k. Before then it would reek too much of a bull squeeze.

Probably either another drop before then, or a sharp reversal followed by a fresh and ugly bottom. I could see the second scenario being more bullish, as all the noobs and plebs would see the spike followed by a sharp drop and then start FOMOing in.

But since the whales keep stalking this thread we'll just go straight to the moon, just to make sure nobody can trade the sensible scenarios.

Checkmate.



1092. Post 48444540 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 04, 2018, 02:30:41 PM
Am I the only bastard who's drinking bob's beer? All you guys refuse his free beer offer. Are you guys trying to make me feel bad? Should I feel bad? :p

He offered, he meant it - I think most feel that's enough. 

In fact, we are witnessing a historical moment. It will be in the books alongside Laszlo's pizza. #markmywords

Marked

With crayon?



1093. Post 48444768 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 04, 2018, 02:40:53 PM
Am I the only bastard who's drinking bob's beer? All you guys refuse his free beer offer. Are you guys trying to make me feel bad? Should I feel bad? :p

He offered, he meant it - I think most feel that's enough. 

In fact, we are witnessing a historical moment. It will be in the books alongside Laszlo's pizza. #markmywords

Marked

With crayon?

Zebra Comic Pen Nib - G 

Approved.



1094. Post 48445046 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 04, 2018, 02:55:46 PM
Looks like we're going to hit $4,100

We need more drama!
But I took out a mortgage to short Bitcorn with 100x leverage. Roll Eyes



1095. Post 48445257 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 04, 2018, 02:59:43 PM
I’m sure this has probably been asked before many, many times but what’s stopping you buying on Stamp (at clearly lower prices) & then going straight to Bitfinex & selling (at a higher price).

Rinse & repeat.

Would it be that easy or am I missing something?
It's called arbitrage and being done constantly. You have to keep in mind the transfer duration, transfer fees and trading fees, the biggest factor of which is the timing. The profit margin of any such inefficiency quickly drops to the cost of the transfer + trade with a risk premium on top to adjust for the delay.



1096. Post 48446737 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: mindrust on December 04, 2018, 03:35:36 PM
Why don't we celebrate in Amsterdam?

Very friendly city for all kinds of people.
Amsterdam is still on my bucket list. But I don't really have any preference right now. Good ideas so far though.



1097. Post 48446791 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 04, 2018, 03:48:12 PM
Why don't we celebrate in Amsterdam?

Very friendly city for all kinds of people.

Temprature

Temperature is quite good in summer. That's not an excuse imo.

There's really only one option secure enough and extravagant enough - Salyut 3, the only space station to have ever been fitted with an operational weapon.

Definitely no farting though.
We could make up our own laws in space too. Like no central banking and no shitcoins.



1098. Post 48448305 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 04, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Am I the only bastard who's drinking bob's beer? All you guys refuse his free beer offer. Are you guys trying to make me feel bad? Should I feel bad? :p

 I prefer to drink alone and really didnt want a beer... just wanted to meet Bob.



how could a guy like you wanna drink alone...... when there would be a party "100K " you are the official theme creator i guess? nobody can create and have the ideas like you have.
I drink a dram or two on my own from time to time.



1099. Post 48448505 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Man if they have another house they could just try to short it now and make up for it with some profit to spare.



1100. Post 48449037 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 04, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
oh fuck, I cant believe it escalated to this


now I am totally torn, my first inclination is to join many others in telling Bob that it is all good, which it is, I mean, it was a fun little thing to rib him about from time to time but that was all

but on the other side, here is an opportunity to have verifiable involvement in this "pizza" moment in history, indelibly etched into the blockchain for all time

when I tell people that I was on the night that the HODL thread went down, jackhammering F5 and laughing my ass off, they are like "yeah sure"

to be able to tell them that the solid gold divan they are sitting on was purchased with Bob's beer money...with a signed hash to prove it...

I'm not sure I can pass that up

NOW if you put it that way  Cool
Oh my.



1101. Post 48453084 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: phitan on December 04, 2018, 05:58:05 PM
Below is a list of some of the biggest names in Bitcoin and crypto and that they think about the impending growth.

    Wences Casares – $1 mln (by 2027)

    Chamath Palihapitiya – $1 mln(by 2037)

    John McAfee – $500,000 (by 2020)

    Jeremy Liew – $500,000 (by 2030)

    Mark Yusko – $400,000 (no date)

    Roger Ver – $250,000 (no date)

    Kay Van-Petersen – $100,000 (by 2027)

    Tom Lee – $91,000 (by 2020)

    Tai Lopez – $60,000 (mid-term)

    Ronnie Moas – $50,000 (2020)

    Thomas Glucksmann – $50,000 (2018)

    Ran Neuner – $50,000 (end of 2018)

    Masterluc – $40,000 to $110,000 (by 2019)

    Mike Novogratz – $40,000 (by the end of 2018)

    Trace Mayer – $27,395 (by Feb 2018)

    Winklevoss Twins – $5 tln market cap (by 2028 – 2038)


 Smiley The first merit was too hard for me. If possible please give me an incentive to continue the journey conquering merit. I sincerely thank you
Did McAfee cut his prediction or am I getting old? Thought he called for $1m or was the $1m call his revision that didn't update the bet?



1102. Post 48453107 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 04, 2018, 09:48:20 PM
https://twitter.com/btcking555/status/1070068239542206465

Quote
BTCKING555 @btcking555
 11m 11 minutes ago

We got leak of Bitmain Q3 numbers! COMPLETE DISASTER. The company lost $740 Million including losses on inventory and bitcoin cash! And this is not accounting for hash war costs! #bitmainipo @HKEXGroup
They needed that fork as another hole in their head books.
My dick is so fucking hard right now it could smash diamonds.



1103. Post 48453403 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 04, 2018, 07:15:19 PM
The odds of a party or the odds of $100k?!

LOL...if btc will be at $100K, a party will happen (99.99% probability in my guesstimate Wink)

but the price within 5 years to reach 100K (max 10%, you stick a knife in my heart)  Undecided
when moon, when 100k party, when the dream, etc........... or just eternal hodl Roll Eyes

You should not need $100k BTC to get rich from bitcoin.

Of course, $100k will help, but you should be able to get rich by overall prudent investing, dollar cost averaging, as long as BTC continues to do its thing.. even if the upward performance becomes less steep.. let's say in the 10% per year arena  rather than the 60% to 100% arena... (yes, I understand ways of calculating can vary), but my point is that you should not need $100k to get rich.  That is 25x from todays price, which certainly is not guaranteed, even if it has decent chances, counting on it seems both fiscally and psychologically irresponsible.  (like gambling with what should be an investment)..
If we get to $100k I may or may not hire a bunch of nerds to make a game with no regard for profit margins. I miss wasting my life in an MMO. The theme park shit we have today sucks ass.

And anywhere before that I'm looking forward to funding some basic research as well as handing out some scholarships to pay back for my free overseas holidays.



1104. Post 48453523 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: mindrust on December 04, 2018, 07:23:19 PM
In my opinion, there are very major fuck-ups on the horizon.

The Interest rate hikes will blow up everything. The whole system will collapse. Banks won't be able to provide cash. People will lose all their savings in banks.

If they don't raise the rates, It will be hyperinflation then. The whole system will collapse anyway. This time asset prices will do full moon. GOLD= $10k. A loaf of potato = $50. People will die of starvation.

They can't pick their poison.

Banks will go poof!. People will panic. People will seek a mobile asset which they can spend easily which is also a store of value. That's not gold because it is not mobile.

We all know what it is.

BTC will be $100k, maybe even $250k but it will also bring a world war along with it. Then partying in Amsterdam won't look like a bright idea.   Grin
How about we go to $1m and buy one of Musk's rockets. Fill it up with all the good shit (like the entire internet on hard drives, everything needed to have a wide selection of gourmet grade food, and tons of booze/weed and a selection of mind-altering substances). Then relocate to Mars and call it planet Bitcorn.



1105. Post 48453629 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 04, 2018, 07:24:41 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-03/u-s-yield-curve-just-inverted-that-s-huge
https://twitter.com/charliebilello/status/1069947580925255682
To a man with a bearish outlook, every yield curve inversion looks like an imminent recession. Anything could happen, of course, but yield curve is a long leading indicator, often takes time before recession begins. (avg lead time since 1956: 14 months using 10-yr & 1-yr).



I said that^
Fingers crossed crypto will have inversely correlated cycles.



1106. Post 48453800 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 04, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
Not only do I not drink alone, I actually pour out my drink if the last person left. I'll never be a Alchy luckily even though I love to get smashed when i do drink. Smiley
Statistically speaking you probably still drink more than me. I prefer the herb. Whisky I mostly enjoy for exploring what the fuck is going on with taste buds.



1107. Post 48454815 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Torque on December 04, 2018, 10:41:25 PM
Whisky I mostly enjoy for exploring what the fuck is going on with taste buds.

Anything in particular that you'd recommend? I'd like to up my whiskey tasting game a bit.
Depends what you're into.

I'm quite fond of Caol Ila 12/18 which is peaty, but not as much as Laphroaig, and with a buttery/oily mouth feel that I quite appreciate.

My favourite whisky (so far with my limited experience) would be a Glenmorangie Signet though, which is quite sweet and actually has easily discernible notes of toffee, chocolate and less obvious coffee that you don't normally find in whisky.

As far as non-scotch goes, Japanese whiskies that I enjoyed were any Hibiki, Yamazaki, and Nikka Coffey Grain. They're much tamer than scotch, but interesting drinks nonetheless.

Haven't really played with American whiskies yet, but Maker's Mark is quite nice and very cheap.


Any recommendations that you have?



1108. Post 48454841 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on December 04, 2018, 10:52:16 PM

Ah, a topic close to my heart!  Costco has Lagavulin 16 on sale, or at least they did last week...  Bottle's still half full!  Hard to be pesimistic with a well aged, Islay single malt so close at hand.

If'n you've never tried an Islay single malt you may want to start with a Laphroaig 10yo with a splash of distilled water.
Laphroaig is a hit or miss. I love me some good peat, but it's definitely not for everyone. It took me a while to get into too, and I just sucked it up and kept trying a dram every few days for weeks before I could really taste and smell anything other than ashtray.

That's what got me really hooked on whisky though. I was curious to see if there was really something to all the flamboyant and over the top tasting notes that you see everywhere and bought 10 bottles of different scotches to figure out if the deal is real. It is. Who would've guessed that you have to actually buckle down to "learn" tasting.



1109. Post 48454875 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: nanobtc on December 05, 2018, 12:03:38 AM
Statistically speaking you probably still drink more than me. I prefer the herb. Whisky I mostly enjoy for exploring what the fuck is going on with taste buds.

Hmmm, @BTCMILLIONAIRE...

"Whisky" spelled without an E.
BTC fan.

Are you the originator of the term 'hodl'?  Does your GF go to gay bars? Do the words "pit pat piffy wing wong" mean anything to you?

Just curious.


Whisky is spelt whisky where whisky came from. The fucking Irish and Murricans changed it to Whiskey for marketing reasons. I wish I came up with hodl, but I did use the phrase 'clam down' well before that. What do I win?


P.S. Will respond to JJG later. Too drunk for so many words right now. Roll Eyes



1110. Post 48463267 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 05, 2018, 01:14:38 AM
I'm starting to wonder if JJG is gonna PM me a BTC address for a beer, after all that...  Roll Eyes

Are you talking to me?  

You come off as such a publicity pussy who largely wants to engage in exaggeration drama?

and try to blame me for your phoney baloney.  

In other words, my name is blawb, and "I need some attention."


I do think that your point has some merit to it. But aren't you attention whoring yourself by constantly bringing attention to his attention whoring? Both of which I find understandable in the light of the current market situation.

But in either case, this is a forum, on the internet. So who fucking cares either way? I'm enjoying the drama, but don't see why it's still going. During the bull market we were all having good chats. Now everybody is flipping out.
I guess the two of you are like me, where given a chance you'll keep shitposting and/or arguing 24/7. I get it, it's fun. But is it for you? If not the two of you might want to clam down.



Someone should quantify the WO drama indicator. I still think it would signal a reversal due to peaking salt levels lmao



Love you both, no homo.



1111. Post 48463620 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 04, 2018, 11:17:19 PM
If we get to $100k I may or may not hire a bunch of nerds to make a game with no regard for profit margins. I miss wasting my life in an MMO. The theme park shit we have today sucks ass.

And anywhere before that I'm looking forward to funding some basic research as well as handing out some scholarships to pay back for my free overseas holidays.

I actually do understand that if peeps are either 1) just getting into bitcoin or 2) they just got into bitcoin in supra $10k prices (or have supra $10k average costs per BTC), then they may feel that they need $100k-ish to "get rich", but even with those two conditions that I mention above, there are a large variety of scenarios that fall quite short of $100k that could facilitate really decent living and profits from BTC without necessarily having to reach $100k to achieve various levels of success.

Surely what you are suggesting, BTCMILLIONAIRE, seems to be a level of profit that you would realize in which you could really have icing on the cake, and even if such icing on the cake does not happen, there would likely be a large variety of BTC price performance scenarios that allow you to live quite comfortably (even if BTC does not cause you to have those various extra (still potential) bonuses).

Actually, I recall when BTC was in the $200s and my average cost per BTC was in the $500s.. I think there are several of us who HODLed and Accumulated BTC during those days, I thought that it would surely be nice to get at least to the break even point... and then in that kind of situation, bitcoin is merely serving as a long term store of value,  yet I still continued to think that even if BTC prices do not get above $500 again, I am still o.k. because I have not invested more than I can afford to lose, and I am willing to ride the whole thing down to zero.

Of course, now, for me, there is a lot of cushion and a lot of equity and surely the value of my total holdings does go down if BTC were to go down to zero from here, so yeah, maybe I can act a little bit smug about the whole thing.. yet I still am not really considering the whole situation for me to be vastly different from someone who is currently investing into BTC but has an average cost above $10k.. Every BTC they buy at these prices, brings down their average cost per BTC tremendously, and maybe they don't have a whole hell of a lot of spare cashflow to be monkeying around with, but still that goes to the situation of NOT investing more than you can afford to lose and being able to both ride out the long long term (including being able to pay all bills, have entertainment money, have an emergency fund) and if BTC prices were to go to zero, that long term investors should be ready, willing and able to ride it all the way down because of the way that they got into the investment and that they are not using money that they actually need in the shorter time frames that could last many many years 5-10 years or more. 

I surely don't believe that the chances are very high that what is beginning to seem like a bear market (and perhaps even bottoming out, but unsure) will last more than 2 years from here.... We seem to have really decent odds, especially the 2 years and longer time frame, even though nothing is guaranteed in bitcoinlandia.  By the way, I am picking the 2 years timeline because that is a bit more than 6 months after the May 2020-ish halvening, and even if there are all kinds of pressures to manipulate BTC prices down for the next several years, there comes into effect a kind of hard reality regarding the limited supply that will cause additional difficulties in continued attempts at forcing the price down and the effects become greater and greater felt as the increases of the supply are half of what they are now...  Block reward down from 12.5 BTC per block to 6.25 BTC per block.
I can already live off of my crypto earnings comfortably. The type of profits I suggested would be in a range where I could dump some 20~50m into the development of a game without even flinching about potentially never making it back. Basically make something that I really want to see but never find due to CEOs cutting costs and keeping everything in a bland cookie-cutter manner. Not that I blame them, they are a business after all and need to appease their investors, but I do miss the wonder that old games made by nerds with a passion for the craft brought about and would like to see it brought back with cutting edge tools over tiny indie games. It's nothing of importance, but something that would be fun if I somehow managed to make all the right moves by gitting gud or lucking out.
Scholarships are a different story, since you can start handing those out even without being filthy rich, so I'm looking forward to that at some point (after I feel like I've spent enough time researching how to best go about it). And funding research I have no clue about. I suppose funds for a tenure and some assistants for a few years would be a good start. Also doable in the foreseeable future and more practical.



As far as people who bought in above $10k goes. Most of them will only have fractions of Bitcoin and not much spare cash to buy any more than a few more fractions of, or one or two Bitcoins at best. So it'll be pretty hard for them to retire without Bitcoin ballooning well above $100k. They're also most likely going to be the type that will lose most or all of their stash by trading, which doesn't make it much easier.
There are also very promising altcoins that increasingly reveal themselves as unicorns, albeit with the obvious associated risks involved. Those could help an average pleb increase their Bitcoin stash considerably, beyond what would be possible by cost averaging, buying dips, or trading the BTC/USD pair. But that game requires hundreds of hours of research and ideally some previous experience with analyzing the unknown and should never be done with sizeable amounts of one's Bitcoin portfolio, especially without extensive experience. The "y house gone" memes are even more fitting here than for just Bitcoin.

Of course, getting into the game and sticking around religiously will help them, even if Bitcoin goes to zero. Because they would eventually have spent a considerable amount of time paying attention to markets and learning about investing money and seeing it grow, rather than waiting for their fiat to drop to half its value every so many years. And investing is pretty much what separates the average net worth individuals from high net worth ones, so losing money to learn this lesson is surely worth it as long as people heed the mantra of not burning money they need for bills and whatnot.



1112. Post 48463644 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 05, 2018, 01:19:07 AM
Not sure if this was already posted, please don't kill the messenger as i don't agree with lots of these points.
However, this shows where institutional investors (aka hedgies) are on this.

https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1068573163670261760

In short: institutionals are shell-shocked and bewildered.
My take home message from this particular tweetstorm: small size institutional money will not participate from now on.

TL;DR she predicts that, similarly to how internet happened, blockchain will eat the world, but somehow traditional players (Fidelity, Paypal, etc) would be the winners and we would be the losers.
I disagree, obviously.
Obligatory "I'd give her my Wan" iykwim



1113. Post 48464138 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 05, 2018, 05:45:45 AM
You guys are scaring the shit out of me with those $1K calls. If that happens, I will seriously consider breaking my own rules and take money from my (completely separated) other investments to buy much more. I hope not be put into that situation. I hate breaking my rules. They are for a reason.
Sounds like $30k by Spring 2018 calls to me.


Also, sounds like your rules just simply didn't consider a $1k event at all. Wink



1114. Post 48464977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 05, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
you guys making me gonna experience whisky as well, i never really drunk it, so just how is the best to start with it .... ? like when out eating its something to finish with together with a coffee or .... never was a whisky fan but as a grow older maybe my taste has been changing Wink
If it makes you feel any better, I've given several tries over the years to try to get into whisky, but my palette is quite averse to the strong bitterness of the beverage. Do not enjoy it, and it somehow feels wrong cutting it with ice or water as some have advised me to do.

Can't do Tequila either, for what it's worth. Had one particularly bad club evening in the early 90's that I still haven't fully recovered from. Even a sniff of anything agave-based results in terrifying full-body nausea that totally shuts me down for at least 5-10 minutes.

Then there's that time I fell out of a limo in front of The Viper Room, and puked all over their sidewalk, after consuming obscene amounts of white wine at a pre-party. Needless to say, I was left in the limo with my head in a box while the group went to party inside.

Man... Memory lane of the 90's.

It was an overall good decade. Coincidentally, the same decade I decided I didn't ever want to deal with XX-chromosomal life-partners ever again.
Here's what I've learned and what worked for me, YMMV.

I could only taste alcohol, nothing else. Which is why I was so suspect over all the tasting notes and wanted to dig deeper.

What I did was buy a few bottles (at the end of which I would've concluded the experiment) and drink a dram or two every other day or so.
Before drinking I would smell it a few times and really pay attention to the sensation of smell, while drinking I forced attention into the taste even though I dreaded it as it was literally just harsh alcohol (or in the case of Islay whiskies just ashtray and alcohol).
Whether smelling or tasting, I tried to derive any sort of information that I could distill from the experience (which was nothing but alcohol and ash initially). A little over a week or so in, I'd eventually get a split-second glimpse of what should be going on, and that kept me going for longer.
Some 3-4 weeks in I started smelling and testing feeble notes, which gradually kept opening up as time went by.

It's also worth noting that once I stopped drinking for a while my palette and sense of smell would decline and I would have to start over (albeit at a slightly higher level than before). So if you had large gaps between your experiments Bob, you might want to consider this.


I recommend a Glencairn glass, they're cheap and funnel the fumes in a way that is supposedly ideal for whiskies. Don't use those cool looking glasses from movies, as they let all the aromas and flavours escape.

Cover the sides of the glass with your drink by gently swirling it, don't go too violent or it did something with the alcohol that made it stand out. Smash your nose in, smell it, focus real hard on it, put it away. Repeat a few times. Then drink.

between just drinking a sip and keeping it in for 10 seconds or longer. In the latter case move it around in your mouth to cover all your taste buds. Keeping it in your mouth for a good 10 seconds also shifts the alcohol burn from your throat to your mouth, which lets it go down very smoothly regardless of proof.

Focus on the sensation and try to figure out what is happening with laser focus. This was very hard for me for a while.

As far as ice is concerned, do not use it. Do not chill your whisky. Keep it room temperature. Chilling it dulls the flavours and brings the alcohol to the front (unless that's your jam).

Water. Experiment with this. But don't dilute it. Just put in a small drop or two of water. That will do some crap where differently soluble parts of the whisky move up/down in the glass, which also changes the aroma and flavour profiles leading to a different drinking experience.
Very fun and a good way to make the learning experience more exciting, especially as your palette begins opening up. Blind tasting, especially with help of your partner is also a great way to accelerate your learning experience.


Now, with all this said. If you don't like whisky by default this is quite a challenge. I enjoyed it, but had to really power through unpleasant drink after unpleasant drink before my brain and taste buds adapted and learned to pick out increasingly refined details.

If you still want to go ahead, do some reading on different whisky types and pick a few of each that sound interesting to you. There are many different scotches which vary by region. Islay very peaty and smokey. Speysides are much more tame and sweet but no less interesting. Then there's a lot in between. Bourbons from what I can tell are more on the sweet and tame side as well, as are most Japanese whiskies.

If you don't mind paying upwards of $100 for a bottle and want to avoid bitter I can highly recommend Glenmorangie's Signet. It's almost a dessert wine. Fucking love that shit. My go to whisky for celebrating with friends who aren't into peat or heavy drinks.

Also, don't drink to a point where you get shitfaced, at least not repeatedly. It helped me to treat this challenge with discipline. Again, YMMV.



1115. Post 48465039 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Torque on December 05, 2018, 12:34:22 AM
Whisky I mostly enjoy for exploring what the fuck is going on with taste buds.

Anything in particular that you'd recommend? I'd like to up my whiskey tasting game a bit.
Depends what you're into.

I'm quite fond of Caol Ila 12/18 which is peaty, but not as much as Laphroaig, and with a buttery/oily mouth feel that I quite appreciate.

My favourite whisky (so far with my limited experience) would be a Glenmorangie Signet though, which is quite sweet and actually has easily discernible notes of toffee, chocolate and less obvious coffee that you don't normally find in whisky.

As far as non-scotch goes, Japanese whiskies that I enjoyed were any Hibiki, Yamazaki, and Nikka Coffey Grain. They're much tamer than scotch, but interesting drinks nonetheless.
Thanks for the recommendations!

Haven't really played with American whiskies yet, but Maker's Mark is quite nice and very cheap.
Russel's Reserve Single Barrel Rye is a good one. And then there's options like Woodford Reserve and Wild Turkey 101... American staples that are quite nice.

Not into the really peaty stuff for whiskey, I like something in between with a hint of sweetness. Although I'm not much of a drinker anymore, had to give up weekly drinking about 5 years ago. Now I just like to taste something good and pure now and then, especially around the holidays.
Caol Ila is pretty tame on the peat and has nice smoky fruit flavours to it. But by your recommendations it sounds like the Signet is a perfect match for you (as well as the Japanese whiskies). Your drinking seems mostly the way mine is beyond the time I powered through the tasting experiments.

Unfortunately no more sMerit to throw around, but thanks a lot for the suggestions! I've added Russel's and Woodford to my list, already had Wild Turkey and quite like it, so looking forward to the other two.



1116. Post 48465186 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
Bitmain's ruination is largely down their irrational masturbation surrounding Bcash. No business run by adults would've pulled any of that shit. It's another indication that we're still not out of amateur hour.
Real rookie move to back BCH. very predatory of Ver.
Must remember their chip maker also left.
The guy who designed the chips.
they blew was it 600mn on failed wafers after that, couldn't make a goddam sha asic no more.
They were left like a car without an engine(  Wink to you know who you are). Not a real car.
hence^ hashrate drop/price drop, all miners fucked.
Is it known why he left? Not perhaps because he got a better deal? Bullish?



1117. Post 48465314 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 05, 2018, 01:00:54 PM


Just been to collect a bit of precious myself. Now off home to eat lots of junk food & get high!
Hope to see $4,000 again by the end of the day Smiley




so the white...... has been deleted for a few days, and the green has arrived  to recover and cool down for a few days Smiley
i don't smoke myself for years.... very very sometimes on a birthday for lulz, but not often and especially cause my last birthday i was so sick of booze and just 5 hits of a joint .... man you cannot imagine how i was feeling @that time
but short said i'm no SMOKER myself but i don't disapprove guys for smoking cause i do understand the fun of it as well Wink

I really should live a clean life. Maybe when BTC moons.
Sorry for the OT guys!
If you're worried over smoking you can always switch to eating or drinking the stuff. No reason to swear it off for good if you enjoy it.



1118. Post 48465329 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
Bitmain's ruination is largely down their irrational masturbation surrounding Bcash. No business run by adults would've pulled any of that shit. It's another indication that we're still not out of amateur hour.
Real rookie move to back BCH. very predatory of Ver.
Must remember their chip maker also left.
The guy who designed the chips.
they blew was it 600mn on failed wafers after that, couldn't make a goddam sha asic no more.
They were left like a car without an engine(  Wink to you know who you are). Not a real car.
hence^ hashrate drop/price drop, all miners fucked.
Is it known why he left? Not perhaps because he got a better deal? Bullish?
can't remember why or if it could be known. he went on to some new company which yes is producing miners, but clearly not efuckingnough.
sorry no links but they're out there. can't be arsed with anything today. bullish?

They clearly have something big in the making and are just lowering the hashrate by not supplying enough good miners so that they can come in with a big boom and pop all the corn themselves. Mega bullish?



1119. Post 48466787 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Torque on December 05, 2018, 02:29:26 PM
Sold my M4 convertible to a friend of mine a few weeks ago.. It is an amazing car.. No way I would buy a Tesla Smiley

Teslas will have zero long term resale value.

Tesla Owner: "My car is only 5 years old and the battery went bad! What do you mean that you no longer have a replacement OEM battery that fits my year model??? "
What about stocking up on batteries? Not sure what they cost, but if that's the only issue then those things could last longer than traditional cars. Not sure about the economics of this though.



1120. Post 48466954 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: m0gliE on December 05, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
Sold my M4 convertible to a friend of mine a few weeks ago.. It is an amazing car.. No way I would buy a Tesla Smiley

Teslas will have zero long term resale value.

Tesla Owner: "My car is only 5 years old and the battery went bad! What do you mean that you no longer have a replacement OEM battery that fits my year model??? "
What about stocking up on batteries? Not sure what they cost, but if that's the only issue then those things could last longer than traditional cars. Not sure about the economics of this though.

What about stocking up batteries to resell them afterwards?  Huh

If we already know batteries won't last that can be a good deal...
Gentlemen, we're about to become filthy rich.



1121. Post 48467340 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 05, 2018, 02:48:03 PM
Tesla Owner: "My car is only 5 years old and the battery went bad! What do you mean that you no longer have a replacement OEM battery that fits my year model??? "

All Tesla batteries are are a mountain of Panasonic 18650s bunched together. They're slightly larger than an AA battery.

If your battery dies, order thousands of them from Ebay and the family Christmas can be spent with everyone stuffing them into the battery tray. Should be done by New Year.

The battery longevity stats are actually seriously impressive. There are 200,000 mile cars with about 85% capacity left.

It's the software side of things that's more of a concern, especially if your car is 'blacklisted' for a non official repair. I don't think people will take too kindly to the cloud esque form of 'ownership' compared to the traditional one when it comes to cars.
I think most consumers either won't care or won't even know. The fact that Facebook and other data scandals came as a surprise to anyone indicates that the average consumer is either too stupid to realize the implications or just simply doesn't care.



1122. Post 48468991 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 05, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
@BTCMILLIONAIRE thats a whole lot of tasting before understanding whisky, going to try it but i guess for after the holidays.... THX for the post
If you drink regularly it will probably be quicker for you. I normally only partake in the herb, especially during the time I started my experiment. No drinks for years beyond 2-3 days per year when some friends had their birthdays or came on their rare visits, so it probably took me longer to adjust to the taste of alcohol than others.



1123. Post 48472309 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 05, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Here's what I've learned and what worked for me, YMMV.

<A proper gentleman's guide for appreciating whisky snipped>

JFC man. Epic post. Thank you so much for that. No one has ever explained to me, how to properly intake it, as you have.

Will make a point of committing your advice to memory, and giving the drink another fair chance.

Cheers, brother.
Hope it'll help and looking forward to hearing about some hopefully positive experiences in the future.

Edit: Oboi. Thanks for all the merit.



1124. Post 48472906 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 05, 2018, 06:28:07 PM
I've been sober for a full month already.

I'm not proud to admit this but "Taking a T break ? What is that ?! Better living through chemistry !"

 Undecided

TBH, I'm considering looking into getting pure CBD oilpens and experimenting with that, but I cannot justify paying the prices I'm seeing for 1g carts online. The "black market" real products are cheaper and WAY better IMO, than what is legally available online, to ship to all US States.

Purchased some legal CBD bud a while back to experiment, and the shit tasted like ditch weed. Just awful stuff not worth the price, given the alternatives.

I hope I live to see a day where the USA adopts a humane drug policy at the Federal level.

Never mind all the fiat I am willing to invest in business opportunities, should it become legalized in my State. Have plans for a boutique operation if the political climate changes.
I take a tolerance break every few months for a week for no reason other than the insanely vivid dreams that one gets. Shit is pretty wild.



1125. Post 48474015 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 08:10:39 PM
Bitcoin bitches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daT8kHuLgfo&feature=youtu.be&t=587
The world is no longer as it used to be.



1126. Post 48474093 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 05, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
@fintechfrank https://twitter.com/fintechfrank/status/1070405218230259712

Quote
SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce on crypto ETF: "Don't hold your breath"

It could come tomorrow or in 20 years, she said.

"I do caution people to not live or die on when a crypto or bitcoin ETF gets approved."

"You all know that I am working on trying to convince my colleagues to have a bit more of an open mind when it comes to [crypto]."

"I am not as charming as some other people," she added.

Institutionalization will happen, she concluded.

Advice for crypto firms: "get good regulatory advice.. there are a lot of landmines...[and] we live in a society that has a lot of old securities laws...You could have the best intensions [sic]in the world and you could trip on something that you didn't mean to trip on."

Peirce said this during a fireside chat at a cryptocurrency conference in Washington D.C.
I think my peepee just shrank a little.

You're not supposed to eat teflon.



1127. Post 48475742 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 05, 2018, 10:15:28 PM
maths fail^ nosey fail^

What do you believe the math to be if you assert that you would have an extra $20 to $50 million to spend on projects (without batting an eye), if BTC price were to go to $100k?

I said 600BTC because that gives a bit of a cushion.

If a guy or gal only had 500 BTC, then s/he would only have $50 million in the event that BTC prices were to reach $100k... That would leave absolutely no cushion to feel comfortable doling out $50million on any kind of project.

You have better approximation numbers than me?  fucktwat?
Your Math is actually more than sensible on this one, given the assumption that $100k is the target.

Keep in mind that people could be satisfied with a relatively frugal lifestyle (not living in an insanely huge mansion, while still having cash for all the high-end nerd toys one would want; the most outrageous TVs are barely 10k, desktop computers at best half etc.). Not everyone needs lambos, yachts, planes or whatever the fuck rich people tend to get.

Developing a game that shits on the crappy triple A titles takes a very long time as well. And the full sum isn't going to be spent in one go, but over half a decade as a lower end estimate. That gives some wiggle room. There are also ways to be more economical about this if you're not in a rush to release a title to generate revenue. You can start small, lay a very strong foundation, then scale up with the years as necessary.


What I'm saying is, is that while the 600 BTC number is a very good guess (as the 10m difference to the higher end estimate is enough to live lavishly for the rest of one's life) it can be both significantly lower or higher.

AI is developing at a crazy speed as well with one crucial example being the ability of taking low resolution images and having an AI upscale it to high-resolution given enough training data (textures are one of the biggest cost factors in this industry). There also has been an AI that turned video material into a functioning game engine. Basically, the 20-50m estimate that is true for today's titles might very well be cut down to a fraction before Bitcoin hits 100k or whatever price.

I may be well off, but I'm sure others have much more than me. I certainly can't move the BTC/USD market, so I'm lightyears away from being a whale.


Edit: Also. Since I'd be the one funding it there would be no CEO twat sponging up all the money, which would probably cut out a dozen millions or so lmao.



1128. Post 48475854 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 05, 2018, 09:46:24 PM
I can already live off of my crypto earnings comfortably. The type of profits I suggested would be in a range where I could dump some 20~50m into the development of a game without even flinching about potentially never making it back.

That's a lot of BTC you're holding.


That is what I was thinking too...

Seems a bit more than the average WO participant, or even the elite end of the WO participants...

I am thinking that seems to be in the 600BTC plus arena to be able to consider that $20 to $50 million would be a drop in the bucket, in the event that BTC went to the $100k arena.

I wouldn't consider throwing 20-50m in a non-profitable hobby unless I have at least 10 times the amount so.... maybe a couple thousands of BTC (@$100K) to be comfortable with that "frivolous" spending.
I'd be flabbergasted if that hobby didn't turn out immensely profitable. I just wouldn't do it for the money and would be happy with just creating something that I could enjoy for numerous years of my life.

I also want to nudge it in a direction that fosters a try-harding mentality in casuals that is completely absent in today's instant gratification mainstream games to hopefully create a culture of non-complacent people that try to go out and do something that others would look at in awe. Without them noticing what is happening to them as they play (which is what happened to me as I spent around a decade full-time playing a single game).

Basically, a game that brainwashes people in doing something with their lives instead of buying a fucking iPhone every year with all of their savings.



1129. Post 48476016 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 05, 2018, 10:51:54 PM
maths fail^ nosey fail^

What do you believe the math to be if you assert that you would have an extra $20 to $50 million to spend on projects (without batting an eye), if BTC price were to go to $100k?

I said 600BTC because that gives a bit of a cushion.

If a guy or gal only had 500 BTC, then s/he would only have $50 million in the event that BTC prices were to reach $100k... That would leave absolutely no cushion to feel comfortable doling out $50million on any kind of project.

You have better approximation numbers than me?  fucktwat?
Your Math is actually more than sensible on this one, given the assumption that $100k is the target.

Keep in mind that people could be satisfied with a relatively frugal lifestyle (not living in an insanely huge mansion, while still having cash for all the high-end nerd toys one would want; the most outrageous TVs are barely 10k, desktop computers at best half etc.). Not everyone needs lambos, yachts, planes or whatever the fuck rich people tend to get.

Developing a game that shits on the crappy triple A titles takes a very long time as well. And the full sum isn't going to be spent in one go, but over half a decade as a lower end estimate. That gives some wiggle room. There are also ways to be more economical about this if you're not in a rush to release a title to generate revenue. You can start small, lay a very strong foundation, then scale up with the years as necessary.


What I'm saying is, is that while the 600 BTC number is a very good guess (as the 10m difference to the higher end estimate is enough to live lavishly for the rest of one's life) it can be both significantly lower or higher.

AI is developing at a crazy speed as well with one crucial example being the ability of taking low resolution images and having an AI upscale it to high-resolution given enough training data (textures are one of the biggest cost factors in this industry). There also has been an AI that turned video material into a functioning game engine. Basically, the 20-50m estimate that is true for today's titles might very well be cut down to a fraction before Bitcoin hits 100k or whatever price.

I may be well off, but I'm sure others have much more than me. I certainly can't move the BTC/USD market, so I'm lightyears away from being a whale.

Well, you are the one who volunteered the $20million to $50 million "throw away money", so it seemed quite topical to explore the extent to which that might be reasonable for anyone to pull off and what kind of cushion anyone might consider to be prudent in order to make such a thing work decently and without too much personal psychological or fiscal stress.  I doubt that you need to provide additional personal particulars in order to appreciate that you have decently thought through some of the parameters including a kind of moving trajectory.. and surely, I understand as well that you were throwing $20 to $50million out there as a ballpark thinking point... and of course, peeps could draw from other sources, too, but yeah, if the funds are mostly coming from BTC appreciation.. then gosh 600 BTC does seem to be within a kind of minimum arena (for a kind of in the ball park of realistic frugality).
I'm fully expecting not to be able to start without having funds in that region because I can't possibly expect technological progress to just cut costs to a tenth or so, despite the feasibility. It's mostly a pipe dream, but one that I've been exploring over the years since actually having the option doesn't seem impossible, albeit not very likely. I spend a good amount of time every so often thinking about what I'd do if different scenarios play out, and this is just one.

There are also a few different plans to raise money without relying on Bitcorn, but I'm not sure I like the idea of being responsible for the livelihood of people as I like to just start and stop shit on a whim. I'm kind of like a moth flying from one blinking light to another, except that the light is some random shit that I start to find interesting for no particular reason. Can't do that when running a business, hence my involvement with finance. Can trade and invest without ever talking to anyone these days, what a time to be alive.



1130. Post 48476618 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 05, 2018, 11:22:46 PM
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I'm fully expecting not to be able to start without having funds in that region because I can't possibly expect technological progress to just cut costs to a tenth or so, despite the feasibility. It's mostly a pipe dream, but one that I've been exploring over the years since actually having the option doesn't seem impossible, albeit not very likely. I spend a good amount of time every so often thinking about what I'd do if different scenarios play out, and this is just one.

There are also a few different plans to raise money without relying on Bitcorn, but I'm not sure I like the idea of being responsible for the livelihood of people as I like to just start and stop shit on a whim. I'm kind of like a moth flying from one blinking light to another, except that the light is some random shit that I start to find interesting for no particular reason. Can't do that when running a business, hence my involvement with finance. Can trade and invest without ever talking to anyone these days, what a time to be alive.

It does not hurt to have relatively BIG ASS dreams about what role you would be able to play in various kinds of investment scenarios - but I do know from experience that sometimes your investment can become a lot less passive than you expected merely because of your investment and sometimes the incentives might NOT be strong enough for various principles in the investment to make sure that they are NOT undermining your financial contribution, so sometimes it can be difficult to NOT have a decent amount of involvement, even if your goals were to MOSTLY finance rather than be actively working within the project including goal setting projects.
No, my plan is to fully oversee the entire process, not just finance it. I meant that there wouldn't be money going to some directors/CEOs who have pretty high annual salaries etc, since I'd be the one doing their job and spending my own money. If I really got to a point where I'd pull the plug on that plan I wouldn't leave a single thing to chance. I don't want a cookie cutter cash cow game, I want a world.



1131. Post 48477203 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Too lazy to post the graph right now. But the $2800 support level was reached the day the crypto market cap broke $100 Billion. Should be a very strong support if we get there, but dropping below it could trigger a further drop due to psychological horseshit and going back to sub $100 Billion market cap. Probably some discrepancy due to different altcoin prices and amounts, but the range seems roughly accurate given that everything is tethered to BTC.



1132. Post 48477293 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 06, 2018, 01:09:55 AM
Too lazy to post the graph right now. But the $2800 support level was reached the day the crypto market cap broke $100 Billion. Should be a very strong support if we get there, but dropping below it could trigger a further drop due to psychological horseshit and going back to sub $100 Billion market cap. Probably some discrepancy due to different altcoin prices and amounts, but the range seems roughly accurate given that everything is tethered to BTC.


marketcap of shitcoins? lololololol >> no one cares of this Smiley  bwaaaahaahahha


Technical traders very much do. As well as the MSM following sheep.



1133. Post 48477466 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.18h):

Quote from: gembitz on December 06, 2018, 01:29:28 AM
Too lazy to post the graph right now. But the $2800 support level was reached the day the crypto market cap broke $100 Billion. Should be a very strong support if we get there, but dropping below it could trigger a further drop due to psychological horseshit and going back to sub $100 Billion market cap. Probably some discrepancy due to different altcoin prices and amounts, but the range seems roughly accurate given that everything is tethered to BTC.


marketcap of shitcoins? lololololol >> no one cares of this Smiley  bwaaaahaahahha

gembitz, dee psycho, seems to have a decent point here.

[edited out]
Technical traders very much do. As well as the MSM following sheep.

I still believe that gembitz, dee psycho, has a good point.

yes the raw love&hype that propelled bitcoin to astronomical heights is not derived from marketcap data Wink  ~cheers
No, but it can be used as a tool to control a narrative in the short-term and create prey for whales to dump on/pillage from. The ones that move the market in the short-term and cause snowball effects. Long-term it's all irrelevant.



1134. Post 48518346 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: DieJohnny on December 07, 2018, 10:20:03 AM
Don't suppose the FCA can prosecute CSW for market manipulation, can they?

controlling a billion dollar market by yourself deserves an award not prosecution
Right place at the right time. Technical traders would've dumped the market anyways. Nothing unexpected is happening and the BCash twats are just an ornament to the inevitable. So certainly no credit due for that twat, other than the show he's been putting on. 10/10 drama.



1135. Post 48518382 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 07, 2018, 12:56:35 AM
Stocks go down, bitcoin goes down.
Stocks go up, bitcoin goes down.

Wheee!
Possibly just bad timing. Bitcoin was going to correct anyways, so there isn't necessarily a connection to stocks. The coming years of traditional market recession will show if crypto is correlated and to what extent.



1136. Post 48522096 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 07, 2018, 09:12:32 PM
Get over with it
Post 4000

I’m Maybe a bit to much around in here Roll Eyes

Those are rookie numbers.



1137. Post 48522422 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 07, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
Get over with it
Post 4000

I’m Maybe a bit to much around in here Roll Eyes

Those are rookie numbers.

My friend i’m still not a real OG member .... but i’m doing my best to fit in.... also my account/being here is still not so very long BUT from when i entered i decided to stay
Probably the writing is going worthless by now ..., can’t find the right english @the moment sorry

You sure post like one though.



1138. Post 48522591 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 07, 2018, 09:45:17 PM

F*** thought BULLmils .... ordered that on.....

To honour BTCMILLIONAIRE

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Hey man gonna try it BUT wtf do i have to do with those 2 glasses
Adfundum them bold?




I read bull as well at first, this being WO and all haha.

The second glass is for dumping a drop or two of water into your whisky. It'll change the flavour profile, so taste it first without water, then add a small splash and taste again.

Cheers.



1139. Post 48523751 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

https://www.fastcompany.com/90278112/mastercard-patent-to-make-blockchain-transactions-anonymous



1140. Post 48523861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Inb4 we all get banned for propping up potential CAPitulators.



1141. Post 48524114 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 07, 2018, 11:52:31 PM
Shitty camera among other things but the spirit is there. Smiley


https://ibb.co/s9M5dJd

/Bad OpSec

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1142. Post 48524211 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 08, 2018, 12:02:24 AM
Shitty camera among other things but the spirit is there. Smiley


https://ibb.co/s9M5dJd

/Bad OpSec

Is the image loading?

Hahaha lol that bushmills ..... i had a hard time drinking it , strong poison (but i Will try them more often on the way has been written a few post earlier....)

Just sended infofront my again last one otherwise it was going to you
I’m bad @hodling Smerits in here but when i’m drunk, i really can’t hodl them
Good i doesn’t affect my BTCHODL structure

Good night WO’s and let the night be one of pump and recovery’s
It sounds like it'll be similarly challenging to you as it was for me. But once I started actually tasting shit it felt like a world opened before me. Would go through the pain again (reminds me a bit of Bitcorns). Good luck and keep us updated!



1143. Post 48524270 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Yeah sMerits are rougher than the current market.



1144. Post 48538127 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Butterscotch Cartman on December 08, 2018, 04:58:39 PM

"Bitcoiners dismissing CSW are like Apple when they fired Steve Jobs."
More like Bitcoiners following CSW are like those following Apple after Steve Jobs. When was the last time Apple innovated?



1145. Post 48542752 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 08, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
So we going to start swapping recipes bitches?

Are we going to have a WO cook-off? Because I will own you bitches.
If I cooked something I'd break my OpSec. I'm Gordon fucking Ramsay.



1146. Post 48543601 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 08, 2018, 11:35:10 PM
i am reading this a few days per week, lately every 1 or 2 days if i have time
and, i cant stand it anymore, so i am gonna pop the question
whats up with the hats?
circle jerk.

You stupid, myopic bastard.

A few years from now, these hats will be critical for verifying the identify of people worth more money than you can possibly imagine.
I always wanted to be a bazillionaire.



1147. Post 48555436 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 01:45:57 PM
I prefer shorts REKT smells


I concur.

Know what I miss? I miss those times of excitement and joy where every other day was a new ATH. The rush of watching Bitcoin bounce at each dip and starting to eat every wall in his path to a new ATH. And then the explosion of adrenaline whilst it reached prices never seen before. Yeah, those times were good. And fun. I miss all that.
If you're craving that excitement learn to trade. It'll be there full-time as you watch your strategies play out, at least until you get to a point where you're successful in your sleep. Just don't get greedy and burn your stash. The perfect size is large enough where the profits are enticing, yet small enough to only get a rash on a wipe-out. I'm more interested in all the skills that come from trading though and prefer going long for making money.



1148. Post 48556069 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
I prefer shorts REKT smells


I concur.

Know what I miss? I miss those times of excitement and joy where every other day was a new ATH. The rush of watching Bitcoin bounce at each dip and starting to eat every wall in his path to a new ATH. And then the explosion of adrenaline whilst it reached prices never seen before. Yeah, those times were good. And fun. I miss all that.
If you're craving that excitement learn to trade. It'll be there full-time as you watch your strategies play out, at least until you get to a point where you're successful in your sleep. Just don't get greedy and burn your stash. The perfect size is large enough where the profits are enticing, yet small enough to only get a rash on a wipe-out. I'm more interested in all the skills that come from trading though and prefer going long for making money.

Yeah, I have been trading since the very first day I bought my first Bitcoins. I had to, because the transfer arrived the exchange just hours before the first 2013 bubble imploded.
Trading allowed me to increase my stash significantly in 2013/2014. Not so this time (just a mere 5%) because I have reduced A LOT my exposure to exchanges and thus the amount I do trade with.
You can use multiple exchanges to reduce your counterparty risk significantly while still being able to trade. More of a hassle (unless you go via APIs) but a sensible option. Still always make sure to keep at least a little more than enough cold though.



1149. Post 48556335 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
I prefer shorts REKT smells


I concur.

Know what I miss? I miss those times of excitement and joy where every other day was a new ATH. The rush of watching Bitcoin bounce at each dip and starting to eat every wall in his path to a new ATH. And then the explosion of adrenaline whilst it reached prices never seen before. Yeah, those times were good. And fun. I miss all that.
If you're craving that excitement learn to trade. It'll be there full-time as you watch your strategies play out, at least until you get to a point where you're successful in your sleep. Just don't get greedy and burn your stash. The perfect size is large enough where the profits are enticing, yet small enough to only get a rash on a wipe-out. I'm more interested in all the skills that come from trading though and prefer going long for making money.

Yeah, I have been trading since the very first day I bought my first Bitcoins. I had to, because the transfer arrived the exchange just hours before the first 2013 bubble imploded.
Trading allowed me to increase my stash significantly in 2013/2014. Not so this time (just a mere 5%) because I have reduced A LOT my exposure to exchanges and thus the amount I do trade with.
You can use multiple exchanges to reduce your counterparty risk significantly while still being able to trade. More of a hassle (unless you go via APIs) but a sensible option. Still always make sure to keep at least a little more than enough cold though.

Yes, that's what I do. I basically have 10% of my total crypto spread over several exchanges.
Sounds good.

I can definitely feel your sentiment, and I'd love some instant rallies right now. But I like how much easier it is to accumulate corn at lower levels, which makes me very conflicted.



1150. Post 48556612 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Sure seems so. 3600~3800 or back down today?

If we go sideways for a long time you'll have your ranges, just possibly not with brutal volatility.

And yeah, trading right now is quite rough. Whenever I stick to my quantitative strategy to the tee it works out smooth. But once I feel like I know what'll happen next and open some smaller trades there I get fucked more often than not; maybe I should just do the opposite whenever I have an urge to try a riskier move - self-contrarian trading so to speak haha.

Either way, just shows how important it is not to bet on one strategy when trading.



1151. Post 48557172 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 02:54:56 PM
Sure seems so. 3600~3800 or back down today?

If we go sideways for a long time you'll have your ranges, just possibly not with brutal volatility.

And yeah, trading right now is quite rough. Whenever I stick to my quantitative strategy to the tee it works out smooth. But once I feel like I know what'll happen next and open some smaller trades there I get fucked more often than not; maybe I should just do the opposite whenever I have an urge to try a riskier move - self-contrarian trading so to speak haha.

Either way, just shows how important it is not to bet on one strategy when trading.

"quantitative strategy to the tee" what does that mean?
Figure out different potential scenarios and balance a strategy around all of them simultaneously in proportions that would let me sleep well regardless of what happens. Then let it ride out while refusing to succumb to impulses to re-adjust cause of "omg rally" or "omg dump".

Basically, figure out some prices that you could see happening, then set up individual trades that would profit/lose within a range that you like and then adjust the sum of the events in a way that stays within a band that you're happy with. If done right you're prepared for all eventualities. Basically just very thorough risk management.

Edit: Same shit as balancing a portfolio of stocks and other crap. Just with Bitcoin price targets being the "stocks".



1152. Post 48563348 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 09, 2018, 06:12:07 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Just in case we dump more ..... gonna stick with straight outta Belgium fast food
Any of you not Belgium-Holland Guys ever eat this Grin

And come BTC kee on the sunday pump while i’m gonna be movie watching come on Wink
What are those green bananas in the middle? And the greenish stuff to the top left of them?



1153. Post 48564903 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 09, 2018, 08:55:25 PM
Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin

Simple to (re-) enable any business on it

https://twitter.com/money_button/status/1071446239927971841


Are you a fucking dumbass?

First:  merely putting bitcoin in the name does not make a thing bitcoin, even if it was originally forked from bitcoin

Second:  bitcoin is and has been a product of consensus, which involves changes in development with the passage of time, bringing the code and/or features back to what they originally were would not make the thing bitcoin, just like we are not going back to original cars, such as the model T, when a modern car is much better in a lot of ways, especially for actually driving.

But... SATOSHI Vision, bro.
Brought to you by the real Satoshi.



1154. Post 48564976 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 09, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
"Frietkot"  Cheesy
Does "kot" mean shit in that language?



1155. Post 48565115 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on December 09, 2018, 09:10:01 PM
"Frietkot"  Cheesy
Does "kot" mean shit in that language?

Agh, no, rather a cabin or wooden shelter or even a caravan style thing... . (We 're weird folkies but not that weird... .)  Cheesy
Damn, iirc kot meant feces in German and the word looks very Germanish. I am disappointed to find out that you're not serving fried feces.



1156. Post 48565137 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 09, 2018, 09:11:35 PM

I have to disagree. That trendline needs to be lower, the start should be at the end of 2015.

below 3000 is not possible  https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/952-%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D1%81-bitcoin/&do=findComment&comment=1707986

Wait and see what happens when all the MtGox Bitcoins are released into the wild if the current price is hovering around $3000 / BTC.

When is that coin release going to happen?  

Probably not going to change anything significantly when the MtGox coins are released to the coin owners - such release might be a bullish event.
How? Unless they got dollars they won't be buying extra coins as a result of the release, but will have coins of which some will probably be sold due to the amount of people involved.



1157. Post 48566731 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.19h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 09, 2018, 10:44:36 PM

Ignore

he's getting damn close
weeeee



1158. Post 48585109 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 10, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
The economy is destroyed
Not sell
Hodl
This will come
0,00000001BTC=1$


Quadrillion market cap? 2020 or you'll eat your dick?



1159. Post 48595165 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on December 11, 2018, 03:47:43 AM
So everyone (myself included) is in agreement that the next all time high will be around 2020-2021? From the crowd is always ng cmp, I wonder how this next cycle will play out. A double bubble à la 2013 or a delayed bubble in 2022, or later (bleh). With Bakkt, NASDAQ, etc, we may drum up enough interest to start the cycle sooner this time.
Prepare for situations in which the general consensus gets outplayed by whales.



1160. Post 48595487 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: STT on December 11, 2018, 09:51:32 AM
We done that back in the 1970's when notes became linked to nothing of any value pretty much the world over.   That story is old, now its just fingers crossed they dont write out 5 more trillion overnight.   Only really democracy says otherwise but in fact that just slows the process and its occurring that way anyway

Theres no doubt modern society is not a failure, great advancements have been made across pretty much every industry most notably thanks to technology improving efficiency and reducing labour costs, latency of all kinds that normally inflate the cost of a product.   However wages didnt rise, fell even for some so wheres the cost risen to counteract the gains from efficiency


Does that chart consider tools and machinery that increase workers' productivity? Because in that case I would consider the number as "worker gross productivity" at best, where most of the productivity is accounted to the tools.



1161. Post 48600607 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Totscha on December 11, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
Yeah, everyone is dismissing this option and only considering the 'new ATH in 2021', because the last cycle was 4 years long.

Just like they all KNEW that there will be a new ATH at the end of 2014, because 'historicaly the cycles repeat every 7-9 months'...

Wasn't April 2013 largely a Gox mirage? They certainly finished it off single handedly. I rarely see it referred to any more.

Wasn't Dec 2017 largely just a Finex/Tether mirage? Wink
You.... You... Don't say that.

I was just trying to point out that there's a manipulation explanation for every single ATH bubble we've had so far... I don't think it's the whole story, but it's certainly a part of if.

Don't forget, Nov 2013 was just 'Willy Bot' going crazy Wink
My hunch is that "manipulation" exists to the extent that it pushes the technicals that are most likely over the edge. E.g. if the indicators say sell-off or rally due, there's some twats paying off mass media and cooking the books to push us over the edge. I don't see them actually shifting anything in a direction that wouldn't naturally be possible. Craig for example always seems to announce his horseshit when a market move is due anyways, and then tries to take credit for that. Anything other than that could (and thus probably would) lead whales to cuck each other out of their coins and fiat.



1162. Post 48606582 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 11, 2018, 06:31:51 PM
IF bitcoin will not die

That's the problem with long bear market, it always feels like bitcoin is dying tulip like and it makes people crap their pants even when the price is at a crazy discount.
Maybe a few years ago, but not now. This type of retraction has happened multiple times in BTC, has happened in traditional finance, and stocks are crashing right now as well (some of the big ones as high as >40%). Nothing scary going on here.



1163. Post 48606626 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 11, 2018, 06:48:06 PM
The first time I do some week chart. I found this



4 years to wait. Angry

i'll probably be dead in 4 years
If the number in your name refers to your birthday you're still pretty young. If it's something serious then I wish you the best of luck with whatever is going on.



1164. Post 48608073 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on December 11, 2018, 07:30:27 PM
OT


https://www.wimp.com/handheld-inverted-fire-tornado-in-a-bubble/
I can't see anything in that link? But the title sounds promising.



1165. Post 48608673 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 11, 2018, 08:16:55 PM
lemme get this 'straight'
I take off my hat. Bob follows suit.
I put on a hat. Bob copies.
Bob, are you flirting with me?

No man.

Just, no.

We need (ahem) hat solidarity in these difficult, trying times.

Rick watches this thread. He's a jealous bitch, yo.

I'm in real trouble when he gets home tonight.

 Grin Grin Grin
The real flippening. From now on Bob will be known as Bitcointalk's white powdered bottom bull grill.



1166. Post 48608706 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 11, 2018, 08:32:17 PM

Same happened to me. Then I found it here: https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/video/handheld-inverted-fire-tornado-bubble-with-a-66mm-wand/vp-BBQOIWe
Nice, thanks. Imaginary sMerit for you.



1167. Post 48608769 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

OT: Just found the tiniest inverted Bart on the hourly.



1168. Post 48609259 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 11, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
@bitserve

Other data, which I think is important for your WO purchase evaluation:

"It seems to me that everyone here has "Bitcoin, s"

I have enough to have 2, for this reason I am accumulating.

If I had more quantity maybe the approach would be another. Roll Eyes

Yeah, I get that.

If I had 100+ BTC probably I would not be that much obsessed with accumulation or at least not until I had rebalanced (take some profit) it with the rest of my net worth.

On the other hand, it is also possible that people with 100+ BTC say the same about 200, 500, 1000.... Hodlers gonna hodl I guess.

I wonder if the people with tens of thousands of BTC also feel like they need to accumulate more. Maybe they do too.
They probably do. Once you get into "the game" you don't quit unless you played roulette and got burnt so hard that you can't get back even if you wanted to.



1169. Post 48610385 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: dutchlincoln on December 11, 2018, 10:51:02 PM
Actually..... I don't care anymore.

I'm gaining more and more stash. We'll see what it does. if it goes to zero and dies, it was a hell of a experience. Everything is paid for, no losses and no gains. If it doesn't... Wellllll, then i'm working on my early retirement right now, and save the major bulk for the homes of my children to give them a great headstart compared  to the rest of the masses, and start a easy life with less stress.
Best gift you can give your kids. Wink
Just nitpicking here, but don't spoil them too hard. Lots of rich dumbasses walking this world who never learned the joys of overcoming challenges. Can adapt challenges to fit one's lifestyle and net worth, but just throwing around handouts generally doesn't help. Otherwise solid post.



1170. Post 48610457 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: yefi on December 11, 2018, 11:16:35 PM
They probably do. Once you get into "the game" you don't quit unless you played roulette and got burnt so hard that you can't get back even if you wanted to.

Like the guy who lost BTC7000 on Just-Dice back in the day?
There were a few times where I got on Bitcoin casinos just to watch the game results of others. Watching people lose hundreds of thousands in seconds is more fun than actually playing yourself.



1171. Post 48627238 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Mugtaiya on December 12, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
Hahaha, so funny to see Bcash crap going downhill so fast.  It's not even in the top 10 of volume anymore.   Behind TRON even. LOL   Those dumb dumbs played Russian roulette with all the cylinders loaded.
The biggest losers are Bitmain who are to go bankrupt by the start of the Chinese new year and Roger ver the owner of bitcoin.com
Pretty sure both Roger and Jihan have enough stashed away for a good life (they're smart enough to at least conceive of some elaborate scams, so it'd take some serious ego problems if they burnt their retirement funds of petty games). But yeah, if they aren't the market makers they'll be royally fucked soon. Craig included.



1172. Post 48628349 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

What's the rationale behind the Bitcorn halving by the way? Why not some sort of continuous curve that converges to zero?



1173. Post 48628973 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitmover on December 12, 2018, 07:43:07 PM
I am almost worried about the price.

I had made so much money, but didn't sell... And I refuse to sell now in this price.

That's an important lesson. Always take small profits... I wouybe feeling better now
Pretty sure that feeling won't stop unless you take perfect top/bottom every time or have an ironclad plan that you are satisfied with.



1174. Post 48629471 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 12, 2018, 08:13:23 PM
Edit: btw there is a pill which grows hair but there is a side effect. It also grows your boobs and kills your balls. So ... Grin

Hey, I've already got massive jugs and tiny balls. I'll look into it.

It is called "finasteride".

Might wanna read this:

https://medium.com/s/story/my-life-has-been-ruined-by-an-anti-baldness-propecia-finasteride-side-effects-ed8b2fcd1e90

Donald Trump takes Finasteride.  I think it explains a lot. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/finasteride-does-donald-trumps-favourite-hair-loss-treatment/
What are you saying, his hair is yuge. Can assure you there is no problem whatsoever with his hair.



1175. Post 48630174 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Higher highs, lower lows today. Going very slowly though.



1176. Post 48631613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 12, 2018, 09:20:57 PM
There is a theme being propagated on interwebs that bitcoin will never be able to get from under negative price pressure from CME/CBOE futures (which are cash-settled). Apparently, it happened multiple times before with other commodities.

Q to WO crowd: do you think that bitcoin does (or doesn't) have some futures fighting mitigation strategy?

Personally, i don't fully buy that doom-and-gloom scenario because other cryptos did not have futures, yet declined even more, hence not a clear cut picture.

Would btc-settled futures like bakkt and/or 'physical' ETF objectively helpful in this fight or not?

Of course, if some some major fiat currency would experience hyperinflation, then btc would benefit, but this scenario is not very conducive to day-to-day life.

I would prefer to think about how we can use intrinsic bitcoin properties to fight CME/CBOE pushing us down (in price).
It'd be very clear cut if Bitcoin really got tanked due to futures (which I don't buy into, since they're basically like those Turkish betting parlors all over Europe).

But let's assume that was the case, then altcoins would inevitably follow suit because the majority of their volume is denominated in BTC and thus directly following Bitcoin's price.

Furthermore, if there's any indicator that Bitcoin will be tanking it would be fairly easy to short alts for fiat and then rebuy alts at a cheaper per BTC rate with cheaper Bitcoins (obviously comes with elevated risks).

Basically, Bitcoin down = make double the money by shorting shitcoins. So the connection between futures tanking Bitcoin and altcoins tanking even more is crystal clear once you crunch the numbers.

Again though, I don't buy that futures had anything to do with anything. They were just there at the "right" time to appear to be relevant. You don't rally from 1k to 19k without a massive correction.



1177. Post 48632015 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 12, 2018, 11:01:46 PM
Q to WO crowd: do you think that bitcoin does (or doesn't) have some futures fighting mitigation strategy?

Yes.  

You need to understand the distinction between absolute scarcity and relative scarcity.   https://sfugeog322.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/absolute-and-relative-scarcity/

None of the other commodities which are controlled by the futures market have absolute scarcity.  Gold can easily be mined, pigs can be bred, marginal cropping land can grow more corn.

Many of us, including many on this wall, are now dedicated to slowly, gently buying physical all the way down, no matter how deep it goes or for how long. Holders of last resort will create conditions of absolute scarcity.  

The reality is that the poor performance of gold and silver markets is a reflection of poor organic demand for precious metals, combined with elastic supply.  People like Roach blow this up into a global conspiracy so that they can avoid taking responsibility for their own poor investment decisions.  There is undoubtedly short term manipulation in almost all markets, but whales can only push the price in directions that the price already wants to go. 

For the record I do not think that the current downward price pressure on Bitcoin is a manipulation. I think it is a perfectly natural and organic reaction to a blow off top.





+1 WO sMerit.



1178. Post 48632583 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 12, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
Is it me or the price is drawing a nice W?
Please stick to the 11th Commandment: Thou shall not jinx.



1179. Post 48643690 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Razer is into scamming kids now by installing crypto miners on their PCs and bribing them with pennies (if lucky) to run them.

https://twitter.com/Razer/status/1072853584021118977



1180. Post 48644583 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitmover on December 13, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
$6245 is over $5000 Wink

I think we’ll start to move upwards in Feb regardless of BAKKT, even if they delay again.

These prices are literally ‘cheap coin’.
Like Hairy said, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, I am buying more but I just wish I had a lot more fiat.

It really looks like a good opportunity to buy...
But I believe we are going down even further. I will sell some and rebuy. I just can't see my bags growing heavier if we hit 1500-2500...

Hi

I would be interested to know more.  Can you tell us whether you have sold some previously since the peak, and your thinking?

Well that's what I did:

Buying from 2 to 9k in 2017. Took small profits in 7k.
Saw it go to 20k and, as a newbie I thought: I will necer be able to buy one BTC again, I will not take profits. My average is about 3800usd.
Holding since then.

I believe that BTC will bounce . I has bounced so many times since 2017, and much more since 2013, 2015 etc etc...

But I am not willing to bet so much money. As this is almost gambling

I thought i was ready to lose that money, but when I got red (especially because of ethereum, average 280 USD) I feel that I can't take another 40% dump which is very likely now.

Ethereum is in a bad shape now. Casper is delayed and ICOs are fuked. This affects yhe whole market, even BTC imo...

I am about to sell my ethereum which is like 30% of initial investment.

I am thinking about selling btc too, at least some and try to buy back at lower price (I am so bad at this)

When I sell the chances are that we are going to have a big bounce, so I will tell everyone first so you can make some money lol..

What are yours thinking?

I think that you're being emotional and shouldn't invest at all if you can't handle massive red candles. Selling now is like buying at >15k. Now is not the time to sell, but to keep cost averaging in.



1181. Post 48644975 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitmover on December 13, 2018, 02:56:52 PM
I think that you're being emotional and shouldn't invest at all if you can't handle massive red candles. Selling now is like buying at >15k. Now is not the time to sell, but to keep cost averaging in.

There is no guarantee that bitcoin will really bounce back one day . I believe it will, but I am totally unqualified.

Putting more money is foolish, if you already put all the money you have reserved for high risk assets.

In past it bounced from much lower marketcap, much lower media attention, much lower infrastructure (exchanges, media, wallets, ATMs, stores that accept etc).

It's not certain that it will ever reach 10k again. I believe it will, as everyone here. But how much are you willing to bet that it will? That's he point.
If you already put all that money in that's on you for not keeping enough powder dry. But regardless of how much fiat you have available, selling after a ~90% drop is anything but sensible, especially when that's roughly been the turning point for most assets that plunged and didn't die. Market cap is irrelevant too by the way, at least in the peanut amounts that we are at right now. Apple is still 10x the size of Bitcoin. And that's just one company. Bitcoin is well positioned to become the backbone of future finance.



1182. Post 48645072 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitmover on December 13, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
Just as you said that buying at 15k is stupid, in future selling at 3500 could be a great deal. What is it goes to 1500.? That's a 100 gain if I buy back.
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.


Edit: What if it goes down to $1? It was $1 before, I could sell one Bitcoin and make 3500 Bitcoins! (fat chance)

Edit2: Invest some money in a book on investing and balancing portfolios. Read it, study it. Everything you post cements the fact that you're just gambling based on emotions. Emotions that traders use to take your money and make profits.



1183. Post 48645352 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 13, 2018, 03:15:30 PM
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.

Agreed. It's an absolute classic noob move but it's also 100% understandable. It's how regular human minds work.

Unfortunately the people you're trading against know this and do not have regular human minds.  

Absolutely!
I could sell everything now & I’d still be massively up on what I originally invested. The thing is though, you just know if I do that the price will go to $6,000 or $7,000 & I’d end up buying back half the amount I currently own which would be fucking retarded.


This. If you want to sell you do it on the way up, not on the way down.



1184. Post 48645750 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: dandannn on December 13, 2018, 03:23:42 PM
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.

Agreed. It's an absolute classic noob move but it's also 100% understandable. It's how regular human minds work.

Unfortunately the people you're trading against know this and do not have regular human minds. 

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.
What you are describing is the inverse scenario that we are having right now. People buying into hype, selling into fear. Some people never learn this error in judgement, some take a few market cycles and wipeouts to learn it, some learn it before entering any market. But the fundamental principle remains, if you buy into hype and don't set aside some profits you'll probably get burnt. The same is true for selling in fear instead of buying and/or holding.

Quote from: bitmover on December 13, 2018, 03:20:34 PM
Ahhhhhhhh

Thank you millionaire, gentlemad and lfcbitcoin

I will hold this shit until it goes up. You are right.

Thanks

Of course, there are edge cases. Some assets will keep climbing for a very long time, others will go to zero. But that's where diversification and value analysis (should) come into play, not succumbing to human psychology.

Make sure you really understand this and don't fall for the trap of "omg why didn't I sell" if we go down further after the fact. The (mathematically) most sensible thing to do is to keep buying in small batches and decide on different price targets at which you will sell. This includes higher prices at which you take some partial profits, as well as a full stop at which you get out of the game entirely. I'm personally riding down to zero if I have to, but for others it might be more sensible to scrape.

Just be aware of how markets function and decide on your strategy before you get into the game, and then take whatever you get without beating up yourself over it. Invest that energy in learning how to do better next time instead of FUDding/FOMOing out/in.



1185. Post 48645785 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitmover on December 13, 2018, 03:27:13 PM

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.

Yeah . My mind set changed completely last week when the price reached my average and I become at loss.
Watch out for this once you're back in profit. Your mindset will do the inverse if we start mooning and that can be just as fatal as what you are experiencing right now. It just won't feel bad until it's too late.



1186. Post 48647066 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 13, 2018, 04:30:03 PM
https://bgr.com/2018/12/11/galaxy-s10-features-cold-wallet-for-bitcoin-and-crypto-in-the-works/

Galaxy S10 might ship with a secure cold crypto wallet for storing Bitcoin
How secure can it be when I throw my phone around all the time? Still haven't managed to break any of my Samsung phones (surprisingly), but if I had crypto on it I'd either get really stressed out or have to change my behaviour.



1187. Post 48647860 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote
He said, “You should outlaw [crypto assets],” because many have lost savings due to the significant slump in the crypto markets. “I am personally surprised that regulators haven’t stepped in harder.”
Allianz Investors Chief.

Yeah, ban things because people are being stupid. Good bye cars, internet, food, water, life.



1188. Post 48648998 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 13, 2018, 05:52:43 PM
All this considerations about selling now will be much more useful and reasonable to have during next bull run. Someone please remember me to sell some then.


haha i will remind you, but don't sell to much of your stash

its important not to get burned when there is panic, panicselling

but also don't burn yourself with selling to fast when we are in a BULLrun....
The trick is to decide on targets before the bull run happens, then sell no more and no less at every given price level. Cost average around your chosen price targets too if you want to get fancy.



1189. Post 48650045 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 13, 2018, 06:26:12 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/unabashed-bitcoin-bull-thomas-lee-says-the-market-is-wrong

That's a great idea. Next time I fail on a prediction I will say the market is wrong, not me.
To be fair, it is wrong. Crypto as a whole is not trading against fundamentals.

In the case of Bitcoin that's understandable, but when it comes to credit platforms, exchanges and stuff like that you can estimate the fundamental value through time and then realize that it's vastly over- and undervalued most of the time (think stuff like BNB). That's called market inefficiency and decreasing with maturity of the market.
Right now it's fairly easy (albeit cumbersome due to high amount of shitcoin projects) to identify future winners and losers and the profit margins are absurd. As crypto matures finding these ROIs will become increasingly difficult though, and not just due to the increasing market cap and lower implied upside potential, but due to an increasing amount of value investors skimming the markets.



1190. Post 48650738 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Bitcorn is ded



1191. Post 48650748 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 13, 2018, 07:45:46 PM

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.

Yeah . My mind set changed completely last week when the price reached my average and I become at loss.
Watch out for this once you're back in profit. Your mindset will do the inverse if we start mooning and that can be just as fatal as what you are experiencing right now. It just won't feel bad until it's too late.

Part of the justification for overinvesting a bit... Perhaps buying 1.2 bitcoin rather than 1 bitcoin is that you won't feel so bad to sell the extra .2BTC that you overinvested when the price goes up (that is if the price goes up).   
Yeah round numbers can be a devil in disguise.



1192. Post 48659683 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Phil_S on December 14, 2018, 08:58:28 AM
If she died with me then they’ll be lost bitcoin’s.

Unless... you'll find some way to communicate... from out there... 

Tattoo it on your taint 

And risk the chance that you'll accidentally reward some serial killer cannibal guy? I don't think so.
What will happen to cannibalism once lab meat becomes a thing?



1193. Post 48661761 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on December 14, 2018, 11:10:36 AM
If she died with me then they’ll be lost bitcoin’s.

Unless... you'll find some way to communicate... from out there... 

Tattoo it on your taint 

And risk the chance that you'll accidentally reward some serial killer cannibal guy? I don't think so.
What will happen to cannibalism once lab meat becomes a thing?

We can already recreate human bladders, so why not grow human meat in a lab.
There are lab burgers, and the costs are plummeting. Being able to create human meat without human suffering will become inevitable. How will people react?



1194. Post 48662064 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on December 14, 2018, 11:49:05 AM
We can already recreate human bladders, so why not grow human meat in a lab.
There are lab burgers, and the costs are plummeting. Being able to create human meat without human suffering will become inevitable. How will people react?

I don't think we will eat human meat, we will just create it for spare parts. Of course there will always be some humans that want to eat human meat. For now it's still quite expensive to create lab burgers? They will decrease a lot over time. The only problem is convincing humans to eat lab grown meat. People have a "bad feeling" around meat grown in labs. They rather slaughter animals pumped full of antibiotics and eat that shit.


People and their feelings are irrational, to put it nicely. Once you can get meat of higher quality and lower cost than the trash served at super markets everybody will jump on it. People are always afraid of anything they don't see/understand, but once it's out in the wild adoption snowballs. Like with bikes. The internet. Or with Bitcorn.

I don't see "normal" lab meat not becoming mainstream, but I wonder if people would remain put off from human meat if the biggest deterrent (killing humans) is removed.

It seems gross to me on a more emotional/impulsive level, but rationally speaking I don't see anything speaking against it.



1195. Post 48662089 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
I think it all depends on how it is marketed. Lab grown food sounds bad. Lets call it something better and healthy sounding.... What about.... Enhanced meat.
Yeah, it's funny how fancy words and marketing matter for the average consumer.



On another note. I love watching BCash plummet much harder than the market.



1196. Post 48663189 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on December 14, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
People and their feelings are irrational, to put it nicely. Once you can get meat of higher quality and lower cost than the trash served at super markets everybody will jump on it. People are always afraid of anything they don't see/understand, but once it's out in the wild adoption snowballs. Like with bikes. The internet. Or with Bitcorn.

I don't see "normal" lab meat not becoming mainstream, but I wonder if people would remain put off from human meat if the biggest deterrent (killing humans) is removed.

It seems gross to me on a more emotional/impulsive level, but rationally speaking I don't see anything speaking against it.

Actually I have always wanted to try human meat lol. There was a news story I remember about a chef in UK using human meat without the guests knowing and they seemed to like it. Maybe I have watched too much Hannibal, he seems to make some delicious human dishes tho.


I think it all depends on how it is marketed. Lab grown food sounds bad. Lets call it something better and healthy sounding.... What about.... Enhanced meat.
Yeah, it's funny how fancy words and marketing matter for the average consumer.

Yeah I agree it has to be marketed well for the masses to adopt it. I am sure they will find a way because lab grown meat seems to be the way to progress.
I'd keep a bunch of animals on my property if I could just prick them once every so often and get some delicious meat that way.

Would probably try human meat as well (under these circumstances) but not sure if the psychological factor would stop me from getting into it. When I was in Thailand I ordered a bunch of spring rolls and was surprised at their unusually sweet taste. Bit only half of one of and realized that I've been eating those white maggots or whatever they're called. Couldn't keep going after the fact, even though they were pretty delicious.



1197. Post 48663228 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 14, 2018, 12:22:05 PM
Vat grown meat is an amazing idea and I cannae wait. There's nothing but upside. I think in the future people will regard the animal eating industry as bizarrely as we view slavery today.
It is, and that's the main reason why I find vegans retarded. Even those that are with good intentions (which I don't believe all or even most of them are) are so intellectually lazy and short-sighted that they are stunting opportunity by stamping meat as the devil instead of finding ways to get the meat that virtually everybody loves in a more ethical and economical way.



1198. Post 48663255 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Triple post inc. I've been printing money with altcoins the past few days, this very well may be the precursor for the next Bitcorn bull-run. The more alt-coins rally with Bitcorn down the more people will catch wind of what is going on and get interested in getting large amounts of Bitcorn to buy shitcoins with. Perhaps the winter won't be as long and cold as it seemed up until now.



1199. Post 48663463 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 14, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
I think I am in love with the woman in the Japanese drum video.

It's not love if you were still unzipped from the previous video.
Sometimes I wish I had more.

+1 WOsMerit!
Got you covered this time.



1200. Post 48668251 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 14, 2018, 05:26:52 PM
Gotta use them miners as heat, it's the only way to mine with profitability on GPU. I don't see other choices.

Can't you use all those GPUs to create a giant VR wonderland where lovely maidens drop crypto from the sky?

As long as you hook hoses to your gob and toilet area you won't need to leave it until it's a reality.
Where should I throw my money at?



1201. Post 48668906 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Searing on December 14, 2018, 06:17:58 PM
this is our reward for hoping

The reward is @ a later time....

So the inbetween doesn’t matter, doesn’t count

Gonna give you my best HODLER chart ( can’t draw on my phone...)

But...: start hodl———————snip———————- reward

In snip period can buy more and increase stash



How much are you buying atm micG?

I’m buying $500 a month. It’s not the $500 a month that worries me, it’s watching my fat pile of HODL coins lose value constantly.


Tell me about it. Sold some equipment..so should I buy BTC now or wait for more 'off the cliff" drops along this crypto winter?

sheesh...what a cluster...
Buy 1% per day or something like that until Spring. If the winter is longer I'd suspect the price action to be sideways for the remainder. Alternatively buy 1% every three days to make up for however long you think the winter will be.



1202. Post 48671951 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Dumps getting smaller and smaller. Moving averages flattening. We're getting trolled before the dump of all dumps. TheRealSatoshiTM Craig Wright is about to dump his 1m genesis coins. Capitulation is near. Bitcorn is ded.



1203. Post 48672031 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: bitcoinminer42 on December 14, 2018, 10:04:13 PM
Dumps getting smaller and smaller. Moving averages flattening. We're getting trolled before the dump of all dumps. TheRealSatoshiTM Craig Wright is about to dump his 1m genesis coins. Capitulation is near. Bitcorn is ded.

dude, why the fuck u are wearing this hat  Wink
Capitulating.



1204. Post 48685248 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 15, 2018, 09:20:02 AM
And look how my GF Made my travelcase, map with all the papers and where to go “haha, but how very sweet”
Just affraid that i would miss something i guess Roll Eyes
Every page hours flights marked etc .......

Dude. You need to put a ring on that finger of hers.

He is a 'genius' as BTC goes down he will see if it was for himself or the BTC Hoard Smiley


My gf of 10 years (we are early 30’s - got together young) is currently in the phase of telling me that I ruined ‘our lives by not selling when it was $19,000’.

As an counterargument and I know it won't work  Smiley, tell her about superdeterminism (concocted to evade Bell's theorem).
A very cool, yet unlikely to be correct concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism
"I did not sell because I was destined not to sell...bitcoin is a new manifest destiny, darling/sweetie, etc"

OT: I was reading on Bell's theorem, hence the connection.

First time I've heard of Superdeterminism. Also still don't see how freedom of choice rules out Superdeterminism and vice versa. It's pretty obvious that humans only perceive a laughable fraction of what is really going on, which could also imply that we only perceive a fraction of our own will through a filter that we created. Both sides keep evading the question of what it is that determines. I'd be surprised if language could even get there, but still find it strange how this gets brushed over virtually all the time.



1205. Post 48685373 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on December 15, 2018, 10:11:39 AM
Sometimes i think it only needs 17 millions people to buy one bitcoin and hold, and then the price seems strangely ridiculously low
Some ~500m claim to own some crypto. Not all of those will own Bitcoin, and most will own small fractions barely distinguishable from dust. Majority of retail investors are panic dumpers too when left to their own tools. Then there's technical trading. I don't really think the price is "strangely" low at all, especially if you consider the FUD and smear campaigns by big finance on top of the aforementioned facts.



1206. Post 48685815 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 15, 2018, 03:15:11 PM
This is getting very, very reminiscent of the last bear market both price trajectory but also our very own WO thread activity. We’re going back to 2015 levels of posting. It’s totally dying in here which is possibly a good sign to tell you the bottom might be in or at least very close.
How very close though? January's almost never been a good month, historically.
Whale accumulation month?



1207. Post 48685864 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: Hueristic on December 15, 2018, 05:29:17 PM
Sometimes i think it only needs 17 millions people to buy one bitcoin and hold, and then the price seems strangely ridiculously low
Some ~500m claim to own some crypto. Not all of those will own Bitcoin, and most will own small fractions barely distinguishable from dust. Majority of retail investors are panic dumpers too when left to their own tools. Then there's technical trading. I don't really think the price is "strangely" low at all, especially if you consider the FUD and smear campaigns by big finance on top of the aforementioned facts.

As soon as the bankers decide they have shaken the tree for all it's worth we will be seeing a pump with corresponding reports on all the regular news channels about how there is only 21 million ever. That word will get out when they want it dished out to the unwashed masses and then the sheeple will FOMO and if your not in by then then you have missed the last chance to get multi times profit.
Been saying it forever, but I don't mind them shaking the tree for a lot longer. If we go into a long winter I'll multiply my Bitcorn stash with trading shitcoins. If we go into another rally my Bitcorns will be worth more. In the long term the former scenario would be much nicer for me, but if we just go straight back up I won't complain. In fact, in the short-term I'd be much happier with a BTC rally than with accumulating corn. Fuck you short-term brain.



1208. Post 48685905 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.20h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 15, 2018, 03:17:11 PM
This is getting very, very reminiscent of the last bear market both price trajectory but also our very own WO thread activity. We’re going back to 2015 levels of posting. It’s totally dying in here which is possibly a good sign to tell you the bottom might be in or at least very close.

bottom was @ $420 when i had evil biker gangs telling me btc was a scam... expect sub $1000 soon and hopefully stiff jail sentences for all the scammers (icos&tokens) ...then mabye we bounce\\\///\\/// Smiley weeeeeeeee
With all the wees and the annoying nonsense, there's something to be saved once in a while.

I also think that a few exemplary sentences for obvious scams would be a good thing for mainstream finance adoption. Long overdue.
I'm not sure someone who can't identify obvious scams by applying common sense would be capable of staying safe even with exemplary sentences. BitConnect was just way too funny from start to end.



1209. Post 48687901 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on December 15, 2018, 08:17:47 PM
First and foremost, when the time comes take some fucking profits.

This is what I must regret.

If I had take 10-20% profil I would had recover almost all my investment and would be relaxed now. Possible buying more.

Never try that. Never sell until and unless they're worth enough to make you rich. That's what I've learned from an epic bull run of 2017. I was almost 90% out of crypto by August-November 2017 because I "took profits at 1.5x to 2x".

Maximize your greed, if you're ready to spend a few years in waiting.
Simple solution. Take, say, 10% of your "new" profit on the way up.


Say you have 1000 as a baseline, you go up to 2000, you take out (2000-1000)*0.1 = 100.

Now you go from 1900 to 3900, and take out (3900-1900)*0.1 = 200.

In total you've taken out 300, which is 30% of your base value, but you still have 3700 left, which is 2700 over your baseline, or a total of 370%.

Suppose you now drop 86% and you find yourself at 518, had you not taken anything out you would be at 560, so the difference is 42.

You lost 42, but gained 300, hence a profit of 258.


You can adjust the 10% based on your own preferences, but this way you won't ever go 90% out of crypto, while still cushioning the fall to a point where you will either be happy with your profits spent on random toys, or have cash ready for the reversal.


tl;dr Take out a fixed proportion of your profits and don't worry about being "all out" or "all in" ever again. If you want to get fancy you can use variable rates, but you better double check what you're doing before you start.



1210. Post 48687943 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Butterscotch Cartman on December 15, 2018, 08:20:30 PM
Next stop 2k
"Buy the Dip"

1k
"Buy the Dip"

$10
"crypto was a scam all along"
At $10 I'm selling my house. Not joking either.



1211. Post 48688672 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: stoat on December 15, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
What if the price goes down to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $4000 and then a big crash to $1000 and then back to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $3000 and then to $4000 and then to $3000 again and then down to $2000 and then up to $3000 and then to $1000 and then to $1500 and then $1000 [ETH FLIPS BTC HERE]  and then down to $800 and then $1000 then $900, $800, $700, $600, $500, $400, $300, $200, $100, $50, $10, $1, $0.01, [Delisted from Binance]
Fat chance.

Even at $10 you'd be able to buy the entire supply for a mere $170m. And there'll be whales fighting over that pie.



1212. Post 48688674 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 15, 2018, 09:25:34 PM
What if the price goes down to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $4000 and then a big crash to $1000 and then back to $2000 and then back to $3000 and then back to $2000 and then to $3000 and then to $4000 and then to $3000 again and then down to $2000 and then up to $3000 and then to $1000 and then to $1500 and then $1000 [ETH FLIPS BTC HERE]  and then down to $800 and then $1000 then $900, $800, $700, $600, $500, $400, $300, $200, $100, $50, $10, $1, $0.01, [Delisted from Binance]

What is eth ?
He meant etc. Et cetera.



1213. Post 48690140 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Butterscotch Cartman on December 15, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
I have no connection to any government, i'm just out to save as many people as I can from this giant crypto scam.  These coins never had any value and never will, its just rampant manipulation that is bringing in more and more suckers.

You got idiots in this thread drawing random lines on a chart like they are fucking Nostradamus. 
Wallstreet insider telling idiots to dump is one of the most bullish statements one could make.



1214. Post 48712177 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 16, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
I never touch alts because I don’t believe in them. And I can make bad decisions if I don’t believe in what I am trading.

I’ve got a stash of XRP, nowhere near as much as my bitcoin HODLINGS but would be nice to see it moon in the future.

I don't see any considerable ecosystem benefits of various shitcoins pumpening, even if my personal holdings might go up because of such pumpenings.

I understand that it is likely inevitable that several shitcoins are going to pump in the coming years, and that is why we cannot have nice things, and at minimum it will take 20 years for a decent portion of the population to recognize the differentiating value in bitcoin, and more realistically it will take longer than 20 years, perhaps approaching 50 years (I will either be dead or close to dead by then, so if I am posting in this thread, then there is some kind of AI going on or my account has been hacked).   
I don't get why you see the differentiating value and the potential value proposition of altcoins as mutually exclusive. Bitcoin will be the future currency, where equity 2.0 will be given in the form of altcoins that are traded against Bitcoin.

Although I guess the current market makes it extremely hard to see this future, I don't think that altcoins are generally speaking shitcoins. Even if some 99% of them in fact are right now.

Companies won't really be able to tie their equity to Bitcoin due to its volatility, but they could very well fix a shitcoin to their annual, or at some point even real-time revenue, operating costs, profits, inventory, etc., which will vastly improve the tools available to value investors who now have to rely on quarterly reports that may or may not be cooked. Just to name one tiny future niche that will be fulfilled by blockchain eventually.

The amount of shitcoins right now is no different from the amount of shitsites during the dotcom bubble (probably much less since we're nowhere near peak). Doesn't mean that everything was shit. Same story with every bubble, keep an open mind or you'll miss the bigger picture due to the hordes of incompetence, money grabs and outright scams.



1215. Post 48712199 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: yefi on December 16, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
That's why you also don't sell major amounts, such as more than 50 % because you will run out of bitcoin, if you sell too soon in order to sell more.

Exactly. The trick is to have a plan where you're still holding on to something even if it goes to a million. That way you can enjoy the spoils even if the incredible happens and Bitcoin takes over the world in a flash.
I'd keep a "long" stash completely separate from the cash-out and trading stashes and never touch it until Bitcoin stops doing its wild waves.



1216. Post 48712222 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: toknormal on December 16, 2018, 08:21:23 PM
Hey, don't knock shitcoins. Tribalism aside, Bitcoin would be nowhere without them. Precisely no---where. Anyone who's ever followed correlations between dominance and BTC price will have seen that by now.

For that reason, I promote shitcoins to bitcoiners and bitcoin to shitcoiners. They don't like it but they need to swallow it Wink

Bitcorn dictates the price. Shitcoins are just Bitcoin money flowing into shitcoins and then back. Alts would be nowhere without Bitcoin, which doesn't mean that they won't serve a multitude of roles in the future. Without alts Bitcoin would simply become the denominator for stocks, bonds, and whatnot.



1217. Post 48725461 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bkbirge on December 17, 2018, 03:58:04 PM
Hey nerds, Bitcoin is pretty much dead. Because some teen crypto kiddie says so.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-is-pretty-much-dead-says-teenage-crypto-phenom-2018-12-14?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

I love how MarketWatch is now interviewing 13 year olds for their investing advice. Keeping it classy and professional there, MW? Mmm hmm

Yeah, it's over folks... But on the other hand we have BCH which "has great technology but the developers have done a bad job at marketing it".

I am kind of disappointed he forgot to mention XRP with its awesome features in his picks of the crypto-currencies with best chances of success.

LOL, I think he owes his grandma a VC fee. Kid is very cocky. Who knows, he may be right. But I wouldn't bet the farm on his words. Hope he took that $4mil and put a nice chunk into his college fund.
Come on, he's not like the nerds and knows how to play the system! He doesn't need college, he's already set! /s



1218. Post 48725485 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 17, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
LOL, I think he owes his grandma a VC fee. Kid is very cocky. Who knows, he may be right. But I wouldn't bet the farm on his words. Hope he took that $4mil and put a nice chunk into his college fund.

I have seen a lot early Bitcoiners do incredibly well.   Then they think they are investment geniuses and blow the lot on shit coins and end up with bags.
I bought a lottery ticket once and won the jackpot. I'm also opening a hedge fund next, 50% on-board and 50% success fee. First come first serve.



1219. Post 48727013 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Paashaas on December 17, 2018, 06:02:14 PM
Blockstream satellites now supports Lightning payments and expanding to Asia-Pacific area.  Smiley

https://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-boosts-bitcoin-satellite-service-with-lightning-payments

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2018/12/17/who-needs-verizon-blockstream-broadcasts-entire-bitcoin-blockchain-from-space/?ss=crypto-blockchain&utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2016400873&utm_campaign=sprinklrForbesCrypto#55236a295a80
The nerd in me just creamed his pants.



1220. Post 48727031 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 17, 2018, 06:13:41 PM
"major news"

Care to elaborate or trolling?
Technicals got pushed over the edge and we're going up (I'm still not really buying it though). Whales and MSM will be claiming major news. Just like they claimed major doom for the past year. If not now, then soon.



1221. Post 48727282 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 17, 2018, 06:31:19 PM

How can he be in you if he's wearing pants?
Touché.



1222. Post 48727563 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: gentlemand on December 17, 2018, 07:06:40 PM
If we compare it with a Smartphone it was invented in 1992, the first good Smartphone came on the market in 2005, with a number of users of 2%, 7 years later 54%, 11 years later 81%, today no one doubts that a Smartphone be a very useful gadget, Bitcoin will not take so long.

They didn't require you to take a financial risk after having a deep ponder over the nature of money itself.

That's a stretch for most of the world's population.
Sure, but faster and cheaper transactions aren't a stretch. In good parts of Europe "real-time" wire transfers have just arrived, and they are neither free nor do they transfer to an arbitrary recipient. Exchange rates eventually becoming redundant with global adoption is anything but a stretch as well. It's just a matter of infrastructure, and where there is money to be made people will build.



1223. Post 48729454 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 17, 2018, 09:31:23 PM
I wonder if days like this drive r0ach to drink.
Sewage? In the spirit of Jenkem.



1224. Post 48729507 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2018, 09:39:29 PM
I wonder if days like this drive r0ach to drink.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZoiJM1vlfc



1225. Post 48730592 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 17, 2018, 11:26:54 PM
EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

HOLY SHIT. I ACCIDENTALLY LONGED AT 80x instead of 8x AT 3237. Talk about a lucky day! Of course I noticed my mistake but by the time I could correct it, we were impaled on a fast green dildo!



 Not bad.  So the beer's on you tonight?


Maybe not tonight. I am hanging on to this long for a while like a bad gambler with an alcohol addiction. Still kind of hoping for another pumperino. Bollinger band constricting, Palms are sweaty
Knees weak, arms are heavy
Vomit on my sweater already
Mom's spaghetti

Wait, what? So you opened an 80x margin long by mistake, got the extreme luck that the price went in your favor and instead of thank the gods and close it and reopen with a more sane leverage you decide to... what? Let it go until you get rekt?
y house gone



1226. Post 48741050 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 18, 2018, 01:14:31 AM
Here is an interesting opinion of Jim Rogers (which I completely disagree with, but i always like to listen to what opponents say):

https://youtu.be/tNSXWkApxU8?t=410

He basically says that if bitcoin/crypto would be successful, government can simply abolish it like England abolished scrip in the 30ies by making trading NOT in Bank of England notes (pounds) a TREASON.
Don't simply dismiss this, hopefully, wrong notion because he is an old fogie since this is Jim Rogers, again, who happens to know about commodity markets quite a bit.
He is not short, but not long either and acknowledges that he might be wrong in his skepticism.

I think that he is wrong because bitcoin provides a standard/reference point, is apolitical and not 'owned' by a particular government plus could accelerate the commerce in due course.
Being neutral would make it resistant to the moves that he described, unless there is cooperation among G20.
What do you guys think?

This would require a collaborate effort by every single government in the world of Economies that actually matter. Otherwise there will be individual countries not going that route, which would simply cause the windfall to exclusively benefit those that do not treat freedom of choice as treason.

In short, interesting to think about, but almost surely irrelevant when it comes to realistic outcomes.



1227. Post 48741742 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on December 18, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
du fomo: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-18/crypto-mystery-clues-suggest-tether-has-the-billions-it-promised
et du fud: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-18/pros-are-ditching-bitcoin-market-as-interest-ebbs-jpmorgan-says
The second sounds pretty bullish to me. Especially considering that JPM got caught red-handed buying Bitcoin after calling it a scam/ponzi.



1228. Post 48741833 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 18, 2018, 02:11:15 PM
Anyone have experience with Gunbot? I was thinking of getting a trading bot and trying it out and seeing if it is worth anything or I might just lose cash.
I don't have any experience with it, but chances are that it works well in more or less sideways markets or predictable channels, and gets wiped-out during bull-runs or dumps. Also, if you can buy the bot it probably sucks, because otherwise there would be no incentive for anyone to sell and thus ruin their own profit margin. And Gunbot licenses are pretty cheap, so I wouldn't expect much from it in the first place.



1229. Post 48742723 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: birr on December 18, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
The pump continues! Meanwhile on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/a5y84e/03jan2019_bitcoin_users_on_brink_of_second/

Can somebody explain me what this guy is trying to achieve and what can be the consequences? FUD? Don't think it will be heavily supported but anyway....
The proposed action is actually significant, when seen in the context of Wall Street coming in, with bitcoin rehypothecation and all it entails.  Also fractional reserve on the exchanges... also... you get the idea.
Caitlin Long has been writing about the effects of a fork on rehypothecated bitcoins, but she wasn't the one who first realized the implications.  Trace Mayer mentioned it to her in an interview.
I think the Jan 3 "Proof of Keys" may have been Trace Mayer's idea, but I'm not sure.
The difference is that non-physical Bitcoin instruments will merely be like betting on the outcome of a horse race. They're unlikely to have a significant impact on the market as it matures.



1230. Post 48744181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 18, 2018, 04:24:58 PM


Thats a good one! But whats the chance that a no-coiner is going to want to read it? Most of them are already dead set on the "bitcoin is a bubble" theme.... All I hear is tulips this, pyramid that...



Thank you!



Wait, what? So you opened an 80x margin long by mistake, got the extreme luck that the price went in your favor and instead of thank the gods and close it and reopen with a more sane leverage you decide to... what? Let it go until you get rekt?
y house gone

More like: Oops, I accidentally got a house.... Well, not a house, but definitely a nice new car.
Not if you don't close the long. Reopening with half the profits at 40x would be quite a hefty gamble, but sensible. What you're doing implies a mentality that'll lead to more losses than you're prepared to handle. I hope for you that I'm wrong and wish you all the best, but damn.



1231. Post 48745897 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 18, 2018, 06:14:47 PM
I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.



1232. Post 48746036 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 18, 2018, 06:14:47 PM
Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything barely useful or profitable already?
Double post due to edit:

Most ICOs have been profitable if you even partially dumped the pumps.

Profitable products? Don't think so, but keep in mind that startups generally take a few years to generate profit (if they survive). Edit: There's at least one hedge fund that outperformed the market on the way up and down (bigger gains, lower losses). Went from ~3m to ~6m and now sitting at ~4m. Started late 2017.

There are a some ICOs that look promising if you care about profits, although they're technically not aligned with the vision of Bitcoin, but rather mass adoption of crypto in general.

Then some that could work out with decent ideas, but ultra high risk due to marketing and adoption and the imminent threat of bankruptcy due to bear market.



Quote from: Biodom on December 18, 2018, 06:23:19 PM
I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.

I intend to watch the newcomers closely.
In a bull market some will do very well. Hopefully, not EOS.
The point is to absorb the gains obtained in those into more btc (before they crash).
That's been my game for a while now. Variable 10-40% in alts (depending on how hard they moon and how fast I dump) and skimming profits over to the BTC trading and BTC long stashes. Very pleased with the results and the on-going thrill despite bear markets.



1233. Post 48746817 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

A few of my friends, who were watching from the sidelines for the past years, have started showing real interest in the past few weeks (following the dump from 6k). And I mostly run around nerd circles, so perhaps this 'delayed' increase in activity could be a sign of fresh casual blood FOMOing in?

Alternatively Craig & Co trying their playbook again.



1234. Post 48748448 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 18, 2018, 08:35:48 PM
Greenspan predicts stagflation in fiat world.

https://qconline.com/business/investment/personal-finance/alan-greenspan-investors-should-prepare-for-the-worst/article_b5b32707-3764-562b-95e9-e1602618e663.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/12/18/alan-greenspan-stock-market.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-markets-investing/

What would be the consequences for bitcoin?
Last time it happened in the 70ies, gold performed exceptionally well, stocks did not do anything for 12 years (with multiple sharp drawdowns and recoveries) and bonds cratered.
Hopefully, btc would replace gold here.

At around 2028-2030, interest rates would be very high and, hopefully, the new bull market in bonds would begin.
I intend to capture that yield then and there.

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Nice meme.



1235. Post 48748497 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 18, 2018, 08:52:30 PM

I don't get the point of those headlines. Technically higher population means higher amount of students thus increasing student debts. Without all the details about rates of repayment and where the money comes from those types of headlines are pretty pointless. I'd be more worried about the dollar printing press than increasing absolute debt (not that I know or care enough about the debt market to make any claims for or against it).

For reference. One billion students taking out a loan of $1000 would amount to total student debt of one trillion. And $1000 is an amount that nearly anyone could pay off with interest in their lifetime. No details, no information.



1236. Post 48762014 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 19, 2018, 01:41:15 PM
Are we going to $4,000 boys? It sure feels like the bear is dead! Is this the part in the cycle where the majority bitches that this is a fools rally? Because it sure feels like it!
Called it the other day. Was printing money with altcoins rallying and BTC trends have been converging towards flatness. Two very compelling buy signals for BTC. I can still see us going down, but in the short-term thanks for the free corn. Sure feels like FOMO though, as it becomes increasingly evident that institutions are accumulating. At this rate that whole MMO thing might actually work out. Aw jeez forever dot com.



1237. Post 48766582 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 19, 2018, 06:33:12 PM
Well, it looks like everything is going according to the best scenario. Either this was the final drop (which I don't think so) or worst case we can go for a final capitulation FROM a higher price (ie: $4.5K to $3K) in January-March.

I also go for the second scenario because I suspect we haven't been able to accumulate enough at the bottom. Next time many will be prepared for a stronger faster bounce on huge volume.

This is fine.
In the context of the time frame this is a fairly "V shaped" bounce.  

But that's a bit hopiumy I think...  I think your "B" scenario makes more sense.
When x80 short?



1238. Post 48767292 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on December 19, 2018, 07:27:04 PM
Full Disclosure: I voted "No" in the current poll. I'm actually feeling the most excitement I've felt since I was approaching retirement.

This can only mean one thing: We're likely to test $1k, with my track-record  Undecided
Short 5-10% in ~1% increments until the reversal then buy back. Worst case the losses are tiny (after re-buy at higher level). Best case you've got 20 to 40% more corn.

I don't see $1k with all the investment banks buying in behind the curtain though. Would take some braindead OTC whales to trade at that price.


Quote from: El duderino_ on December 19, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
Well, it looks like everything is going according to the best scenario. Either this was the final drop (which I don't think so) or worst case we can go for a final capitulation FROM a higher price (ie: $4.5K to $3K) in January-March.

I also go for the second scenario because I suspect we haven't been able to accumulate enough at the bottom. Next time many will be prepared for a stronger faster bounce on huge volume.

This is fine.
In the context of the time frame this is a fairly "V shaped" bounce. 

But that's a bit hopiumy I think...  I think your "B" scenario makes more sense.
When x80 short?

do never say that again !! Roll Eyes
100x? Shocked



1239. Post 48767728 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 19, 2018, 07:57:04 PM
[...] send BTC, cause he only works in BTC then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit [...]

Don't do it kiddo, many have tried before you. Ow and this.

Yes its a scam.  Don't do it. 
Definitely either scam or a very naive dude who is about to learn an important lesson. Would stay away.



1240. Post 48769117 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Uhoh.



1241. Post 48769916 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Deeyoh on December 19, 2018, 10:34:14 PM
Hardly any shorts closed at all.  Just get all comfy and short to your hearts content. LOL  Longs have been closing almost as soon as they open.  Not a very good sign for an extended bull run.


I do hope I'm wrong on this one but take a look for yourself.   Shorts just are not closing.  They just keep going up.

https://datamish.com/d/000000004/btcusd?refresh=20s&orgId=1
Possibly because longs are more forward thinking than shorts? Or because [tinfoil]the institutions are shorting the shit out of Bitcorn so they can OTC at better rates[/tinfoil].



1242. Post 48769921 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on December 19, 2018, 10:30:49 PM
infofront is right, it is a possibility 3000 or 2900 and it goes up.
I hope to see the Toxic2040 graphic
the shorts are increasing

img -snipped-

I appreciate the mention but my doodle's are sort of like my baking possibly...looks great at 10+ feet. Plenty of better chartist's around.

snip


None of the kid's' could figure what this was...oh well. My Trump in the lower left above didn't go ever so well either.

pins

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As Marcus mentioned, we are now at or approaching positive ROI for mining again. Seems good to me. I think we will see the price consolidate in this range for the next few days or so.

Happy Holiday's everyone.
#stronghands

Nice scotch cookies. I'd eat them. +1 WOsMerit (someone please)



1243. Post 48784753 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 20, 2018, 12:19:49 AM
I'm going to watch Bad Santa. It's the perfect Christmas movie and probably my favorite.

Get bitcoin over 4k for fuck's sake. Needs to get back to 6502 so we can bitch about how nothing happens.
I fucking hate how this shit keeps snailing sideways in a [0,20000] channel.



1244. Post 48785006 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote
If there's zero friction to transfer it, it's because no actual value was transferred in the first place.  You can't email a house, a bar of silver or gold, a drumstick, or anything that has any real type of value at all.
You are factually wrong.

You can email the construction manual for a successful trading algorithm, any sort of machinery, or any other type of intellectual property that can and often is much more valuable than any of your examples.

The friction exists in the security of the transfer itself and is paid for by miners in the form of electricity, hardware, rent, risk of default, etc. and those who buy their coins and pay transaction fees.


Another example that offsets your nonsensical argument is saffron, or drugs. Tiny amounts can be transported across the globe with great ease. Yet they are vastly more valuable than gold per unit of weight.



1245. Post 48785217 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: kingcolex on December 20, 2018, 12:49:41 PM

Sinking.



I'm going to buy a handful of shares, db won't go under. Banks are going to be making money forever.
Check their 10 year chart before you buy anything.



1246. Post 48790062 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.21h):

Quote from: Paashaas on December 20, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
I like sub-satoshi payments with LN Smiley





Quote
The winning price was the first of several 1 millisatoshi bids (one hundred billionth of one bitcoin). At the time of writing, the US-dollar denominated value of the bid is approximately $0.000000037.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/sold-lightning-network-art-auction-goes-lowest-bidder/
Millisatoshis? So Bitcorn can easily go to over $1m now without running into the problem that 1 Sat = 1 Cent. Weeeeeeeee?



1247. Post 48792160 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 20, 2018, 07:21:03 PM
WASHINGTON > The first futures contract that will pay out in cryptocurrency rather than cash is expected to soon get regulatory approval.

UP UP UP !!!!!!!! Cool

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1075718727298138112


https://twitter.com/BlockchainKai/status/1075724604944076801

Guess someone doesn't realize you need to buy Bitcoin before you can dump it.



1248. Post 48792232 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: infofront on December 20, 2018, 07:47:46 PM
Are we starting to see people FOMO'ing?
Have no fucking idea. I am with my date tonight  and I am confused where should I concentrate more my btc or naked girl laying beside me.

Lets look at this mathematically:

0 BTC + 1 Naked Girl Now = 0 BTC + 1 Naked Girl Later (maybe)
X BTC + 0 Naked Girls Now = X/2 BTC + X² Naked Girls Later
So let me get this straight, if I get half a BTC now but no naked girls, I'll have a quarter BTC and a quarter naked girl later?



1249. Post 48792300 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 20, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
Ack! Just looked at the price 1 hour ago...now it is going down...damn it....it's all on me...Ack!

(just don't look, it is always a trap!)

Something to say for 'blissful ignorance' and don't look at BTC price for 5 years, just think of all the angst I would have

lessened in the last 1/2 year alone!





Well, at least you don't REALLY need to look at the price anymore... You have been able to retire early. You have already cashed out enough to carry you until you receive your state retirement, social benefits, plus private pension plan. You still have a stash bigger than most guys here.

You made it FFS!

Just stop always seeing the glass half empty and enjoy your well deserved retirement, bro!

Retirement is severely overrated.
Most people are bored to smithereens and/or become idle.
In fact, being active in your 60ies probably extends life (for man).
I have seen older men declining really fast once they stopped working.
Somehow, this is not true for females, who often stay successfully retired for much longer.
I am almost fully certain that your lifespan depends heavily on your will for life. So if you retire with no other goals left, you'll quickly deteriorate and move on to the afterlife.



1250. Post 48792410 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on December 20, 2018, 09:27:51 PM
According to CoinMarketCap:

Last 24h Volume (overall): $25,339,041,596

Last 24h Tether Volume: $6,603,357,495

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tether use to have a lot more dominance in overall volume till a few months back?

Currently, only about 25% of the total USD 24-hour volume belongs to Tether.
Lots of new and active stable coins could explain that.



1251. Post 48792439 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 20, 2018, 09:30:19 PM


LET IT BE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

That is nearly ridiculous logic that you are citing there, mic.  Get your team to help you to see the light.

Recall that in September 2017 bitcoin was in the midst - and even tail end of a bull market, and currently bitcoin seems to be in a bear market, so the price dynamics, and therefore momentum, are much different.
You're right, if we can have a similar effect right now as we had in September 2017 (despite the bull market at the time) we'll be having a much more violent bull run through 2019! Weeeeee

Disclaimer: I do not know what the fuck I am talking about. This is not investment advise Or is it.



1252. Post 48792596 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 20, 2018, 11:52:44 PM
Heres a good question for the WO: Who uses automated trading tools and which ones?
I wouldn't trust any bought automated trading tools (not just because of potential backdoors or keyloggers). Selling them implies that whoever made them doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. If the bot was any good it'd only be a matter of time until they'd be filthy rich, so giving others access to it would eat into their profits. Hence, if you can buy it it's fucking garbage.

Don't bother.

If you want one and are rich enough to afford it hire a team of nerds and lawyers. If you're broke, become a nerd yourself and write your own. If you don't like either of these options, just forget it.



1253. Post 48805608 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: realr0ach on December 21, 2018, 09:29:11 AM
Answer me HONESTLY this simple question:

What has more probabilities of a 10x in the next following years Bitcoin or silver?

I've already stated that I'm worried if there will be any type of economy left to spend metals in when the Jewish, usury debt bubble implodes.  There might just be martial law or global Venezeula.  Bitcoin will definitely be completely useless.  Odds of some sort of a cyclical dark age are pretty damn high.  Civilization is overly-complex, overly-specialized, and lacking redundancy on a local level.  

When an overly-complex system collapses, it does NOT magically shift into an even more complex one like craptocurrency.  There will either be a hard landing and a dark ages, a hard landing and back to metals as money, or the typical Jim Rickards and others style claim that the system will go bust, they immediately initiate a new Bretton Woods, and right then the price of gold instantly goes from what it currently is to $10-80k with silver also at some astronomical number and life goes on.

I do not see any circumstance in which the system goes bust and bitcoin is in any way usable or has any type of value.  Metals are the Schelling point of money and what receive all the wealth transfer from, not shitcoins. There are also massive govts equipped with nuclear weapons like Russia and China who have already cast their vote and it's metals as well.  The only people attempting to push digital shitcoins are the Jewish occupied, western govts (who are being defeated left and right) with evil kikes like Larry Summers telling people to buy them (for their own good of course and definitely not some ulterior motive).
Nobody fucking uses metals to pay for anything. I throw most my coins away because they clutter up the wallet. And that's in the super rare event that I use cash at all.



1254. Post 48808102 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: bitebits on December 21, 2018, 05:11:13 PM
[...] super rare event that I use cash at all.

It is unfortunate how little financial privacy is valued these days, which is (currently) Bitcoin's Achilles heel as well. Very much encourage any privacy improvements in layer two solutions and side chains.
I don't need privacy when shopping for groceries, at least for as long as there isn't a service that offers money for your data (e.g. at point of sale or while browsing the web). When I need privacy I make sure I have it.



1255. Post 48808150 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: d_eddie on December 21, 2018, 04:05:32 PM

$120 is more than enough for a network specially disigned for micropayments.

Main chain will be great for medium to large transactions.

Lightning is for low, micro to sub-Satoshi payments.

I've already seen this a couple of times, how can you go sub-satoshi?  Huh
When you close the channel and go back to the main chain, you're forced to round to whole satoshis of course, but while the funds are in the LN, accounting is in subunits (might be millisatoshis if I'm not wrong).
Round up or down? Any way this could create non-existent corn? (Probably not, but sure sounds like it and I'd like to hear why it is not so.)



1256. Post 48808655 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 21, 2018, 08:03:21 PM

I don't need privacy when shopping for groceries,

oh but you might

I can imagine any number of scenarios where a hostile lawyer being able to enter one's historical receipts for beer might be unwelcome.
I don't see it. And not only because the transaction details on the bank account only show the lump sum paid for groceries with no details regarding individual items.



1257. Post 48809933 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: lightfoot on December 21, 2018, 09:35:43 PM
Does she have brains? If I saw her sit down at a desk and solve a quadratic equation I would find her worthy to marry and mate with.
+1 WOsMerit



1258. Post 48810430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 21, 2018, 10:46:06 PM
bitcoin will remain at 4000 for the year, but top-10 altcoins will grow due to oversold, BCH especially. In 2015, bitcoin was 200 all year, and litecoin grew from 1.3 to 8


We are not in 2015 anymore, Dorothy. 
Sure, but markets without obvious fundamentals trade the same. The absolute numbers are irrelevant here.



1259. Post 48810786 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 21, 2018, 11:13:56 PM
bitcoin will remain at 4000 for the year, but top-10 altcoins will grow due to oversold, BCH especially. In 2015, bitcoin was 200 all year, and litecoin grew from 1.3 to 8


We are not in 2015 anymore, Dorothy.  
Sure, but markets without obvious fundamentals trade the same. The absolute numbers are irrelevant here.

Do you believe that fundamentals of BTC and market dynamics are similar to early 2015?  Do you believe that charts match up, and so we are going to experience similar dynamics in early 2019 as we saw in early 2015?  

Sure, it is possible, but how much weight are you going to give to such a scenario?  How much you going to bet on such a scenario to play out?  Personally, I would not bet much on that, and even betting anywhere close to 50% on such a scenario playing out seems quite imprudent to me, but hey, to each their own.

By the way, I am not suggesting that Bitcoin does not have a fairly heavy burden to get back above $6k and to stay above $6k, I am just questioning the likelihood of painting either doom and gloom scenarios or flat price scenarios for BTC that drag out a long time based on prior charts and attempting to place a lot of credence in previous patterns.
Fundamentals of BTC can not be properly quantified right now, hence a market without "obvious" fundamentals.

In stocks you can calculate (or just read) almost all the data you need to project revenue and profits and thus a band for your ROI.
With crypto this is completely and utterly impossible right now. Which is also why the market is doing its usual technicals driven ups and downs with no obvious walls given by fundamental analysis.



1260. Post 48810800 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 21, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Hey fuck you Brave

https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1076160882873380870
Been wondering how they could donate to any and every site. Guess that's how.



1261. Post 48822019 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 22, 2018, 12:41:07 AM
Fundamentals of BTC can not be properly quantified right now, hence a market without "obvious" fundamentals.
Huh?  Why does it matter?  I recall taking courses in economics, and I would frequently criticize some of the theories for attempting to place too much quantification on various aspects of human behaviors, but it does not hurt to make attempts and in the end, some people are going to be better (and more accurate) at such quantifications than others, even while there are going to be areas of uncertainties and even, perhaps, misplaced concreteness.


In stocks you can calculate (or just read) almost all the data you need to project revenue and profits and thus a band for your ROI.

Of course, the longer the history and the more mature (and even comparable) the asset class is going to cause predictive models to be more accurate.


With crypto this is completely and utterly impossible right now.

Never say never.

You seems to be creating more futility than is warranted with your statement of absolutisms, here.


Which is also why the market is doing its usual technicals driven ups and downs with no obvious walls given by fundamental analysis.

Huh?  You are losing me.

From my understanding, our current BTC price dynamics is experiencing a considerable amount of price battle, which is demonstrated by recent increases in trade volume (measured in dollars), so there is a price battle going on and we will find out which way the price goes from such battle.  Does not seem to be different from the usual bitcoin situation, and many folks who watch the bitcoin space are going to understand that it becomes much more difficult for any small group to manipulate BTC prices when trade volumes are high.  In other words, it is going to cost a lot of fucking money (or value) to manipulate BTC prices during times like these (high trade volume) times, yet such high costs of manipulation and push also can have some potential for considerable profits for one side or the other to experience considerable gains if such side can get the BTC price to break into their preferred direction.

So there is frequently uncertainty regarding which way such price battle is going to play out including the current price battle, but that does not mean that there are not tools that peeps have in order to attempt to predict both the direction outcome and the degree in which it will break, assuming that it breaks (which is also not certain, because it could just end up going sideways and the battle reaches a truce, which seems like the lesser of the likely outcomes during periods in which the trade volume picks up like it currently has picked up).
Economics is a joke that has, in its current form, no place at institutions of higher education.



You're conflating two things here. More below.



With no word have I said 'never'. I specifically pointed to the current state of crypto, which makes fundamental analysis (beyond mining cost) completely impossible. Hence, no obvious fundamental value that can give you any idea of where we are currently standing.



As said, you're conflating all of my post with the chart drawing you see most of in these places (crypto). The chart drawing and analysis is part of a branch called technical analysis. It tries to identify trends and shifts in market psychology.
What I was talking about is fundamental analysis, which is much more objective (to the point of accuracy of data) as it analyses underlying assets, costs, profits, revenue as well as risk and opportunity premiums and so on of a business.
Thus, fundamental analysis gives you an objective value of a company, around which the stock price fluctuates.

Technical analysis tries to quantify the fluctuations (stemming from market psychology and the implied trader behaviour).

Bitcoin's price stands almost exclusively on the emotional and speculative leg of technical analysis right now, and that won't change until we get to a scenario where "Y proportion of X market" is traded against BTC. This is also why Bitcoin went from 20k to 3k. Because technicals pointed towards that being the likely outcome (note that nothing will ever give you the exact numbers without).
If Bitcoin could be assigned a fundamental value of $10k we would've most likely not seen a significant drop below $10k, as FOMO would kick in and revert the price towards its fundamental value. Similarly, it would retrace from $30k to $20k if the latter was its fundamental value, as people would sell in order to buy back at a price closer to the "real" value.
Technical indicators give you a confidence interval for the deviation from the fundamental value as well as the speed of convergence towards it. But since that doesn't exist in Bitcoin, a quasi-fundamental value is given mostly by mining price + moving averages (technicals). Hence, it doesn't matter if Bitcoin is more "mature" until a fundamental value is near universally agreed upon by global markets and easily identifiable. It'll keep trading more or less the same until then.

P.S. The 'battle' is mostly just trading based on technicals with some people getting caught in between and making up narratives that fit the current market. Hence the odd timing of news stories and whatnot. They push trades implied by fundamentals over the edge so to speak.



1262. Post 48822159 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on December 22, 2018, 01:28:06 AM
Fuck.

It's unlikely the CFTC will act in time for ICE to launch Bakkt as planned on Jan. 24, CoinDesk has learned.

https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1076285284654989313
The new 'China bans Bitcorn'?



1263. Post 48822547 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: Syke on December 22, 2018, 06:04:18 AM
I don't see it. And not only because the transaction details on the bank account only show the lump sum paid for groceries with no details regarding individual items.

But those details are in the store's database, and when it gets hacked and sold, it then gets connected with your bank details. Bingo, all is known.
A scenario in which I'd have to worry about anyone knowing about what I bought at what time combined with somebody hacking the database and leaking it to my unlikely enemy in an already unlikely scenario is so infinitesimally likely that I still don't see the point for any practical intent. Seems much more sensible to be worried about talking around your phone and even that would be at the very least edging on tinfoil.



1264. Post 48825600 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: VB1001 on December 22, 2018, 05:11:58 PM
Warning:

Movement HODLERS if you do not have your private keys you do not have Bitcoin, Trace Mayer [Jan / 3➞₿ 🔑∎] want the day January 3 2019 to be an annual celebration to declare the monetary sovereignty with the withdrawal of all the BTC from the exchanges.

Proof of Keys on Jan. 3 Gains Traction

https://twitter.com/TraceMayer/status/1071870548421066753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1071870548421066753&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fethereumworldnews.com%2Fbtc-withdraw-bitcoin-exchanges-proof-of-keys%2F

https://news.bitcoin.com/support-grows-for-bitcoin-proof-of-keys-on-jan-3/

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bitcoins-proof-of-keys-protocol-continues-to-gain-support-honoring-btcs-10th-anniversary-jan-3-%F0%9F%94%91/

If it is fulfilled, it will be a tough Stress Test for exchanges.
The problem may be in exchanges that are not solvent or those that manipulate the books.

What do you think about this?

Will collapse bitcoin transactions if there is an exchange that does not have its bitcoins for the withdrawal of its clients?


Dumb for two reasons.

1. Clogs the network.

2. Cold storage. Most coins are in cold storage because people don't just randomly withdraw all coins simultaneously. So withdrawing all at once will be simply impossible because of the security measures in place that protect customers of exchanges.

In short, this looks like an attempt at a FUD attack. "OMG look these exchanges can't instantly withdraw all coins" and/or "omg look at how the BTC network crashed".



1265. Post 48830483 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 23, 2018, 12:50:22 AM
BTW, if you guys are looking for a great site to extract images for meme material, check this shit out.

https://www.remove.bg/

Saw it on Twitter a couple days back. Some machine-learning app type thing that takes an image, and erases the background, only leaving the human behind.

It's how I extracted Mr. Sutherland for the Photoshop work.

It's fucking sorcery. Sheeeit !

Nice man

Gonna check it out tomorroW

Have a few beers and buy Some coin Wink
Bow to the new overlords.



1266. Post 48866869 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: empowering on December 24, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
I want the Mayor back

Me too
#metoo



1267. Post 48881714 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: maser82 on December 25, 2018, 11:19:52 AM


When btc gets a dump, and the same microsecond the alts get a dump as well, it cannot be people being greedy/fearful, right? it must be a coupling in some form to the mastercoin, btc?

im not saying anything about the intrinsical value of an alt itself, nor if its a good or a bad alt, but just these fluctuations intrigue me and i dont really understand...

Not sure I understand your question : the answer seems self evident :

There is trading constantly on multiple exchanges 24/7, every second of the day. The alt prices (on coinmarket cap or whatever) are based on 'last trade' for a number of exchanges. The trade is in BTC, that is converted to $$ in the quote. If BTC $ price changes, then so must the alt $ price, even if there is no further trade.

If a bid/offer is hit then the BTC price changes as well.

i appreciate the explanation, and it seems fair in regards to $$ value, but thats not what i meant, and thats also the part i dont understand.

When bitcoin makes a pump or a dump, the alt varies in BTCprice as well, and thats strange to me. (as your explanation (as far as i understand) states the $$ price must go up and down seems logic as the BTC value varies in $$ value. That makes sense. But why does the BTC value of the alt change so much as well?? Thats double... For instance: when BTC takes a drop of 10% in $$ value, the ALT makes adrop of 10% in $$value (logic), AND a drop of 10% in BTC value as well (unlogic),  makes a total devaluation of that coin of 20%..)


The user BTCMILLIONAIRE explained what could be the cause: When it is clear the BTC is in a downtrend you could get profits by shorting altcoins for fiat:


Furthermore, if there's any indicator that Bitcoin will be tanking it would be fairly easy to short alts for fiat and then rebuy alts at a cheaper per BTC rate with cheaper Bitcoins (obviously comes with elevated risks).

Basically, Bitcoin down = make double the money by shorting shitcoins. So the connection between futures tanking Bitcoin and altcoins tanking even more is crystal clear once you crunch the numbers.

Would merit for attentiveness, but ran out meriting the Mic whisky taster set.



1268. Post 48881942 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Not gonna lie, wish I had come up with that hat first. It's the perfect WO hat.



1269. Post 48884571 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on December 25, 2018, 10:42:46 PM


When btc gets a dump, and the same microsecond the alts get a dump as well, it cannot be people being greedy/fearful, right? it must be a coupling in some form to the mastercoin, btc?

im not saying anything about the intrinsical value of an alt itself, nor if its a good or a bad alt, but just these fluctuations intrigue me and i dont really understand...

Not sure I understand your question : the answer seems self evident :

There is trading constantly on multiple exchanges 24/7, every second of the day. The alt prices (on coinmarket cap or whatever) are based on 'last trade' for a number of exchanges. The trade is in BTC, that is converted to $$ in the quote. If BTC $ price changes, then so must the alt $ price, even if there is no further trade.

If a bid/offer is hit then the BTC price changes as well.

i appreciate the explanation, and it seems fair in regards to $$ value, but thats not what i meant, and thats also the part i dont understand.

When bitcoin makes a pump or a dump, the alt varies in BTCprice as well, and thats strange to me. (as your explanation (as far as i understand) states the $$ price must go up and down seems logic as the BTC value varies in $$ value. That makes sense. But why does the BTC value of the alt change so much as well?? Thats double... For instance: when BTC takes a drop of 10% in $$ value, the ALT makes adrop of 10% in $$value (logic), AND a drop of 10% in BTC value as well (unlogic),  makes a total devaluation of that coin of 20%..)


The user BTCMILLIONAIRE explained what could be the cause: When it is clear the BTC is in a downtrend you could get profits by shorting altcoins for fiat:


Furthermore, if there's any indicator that Bitcoin will be tanking it would be fairly easy to short alts for fiat and then rebuy alts at a cheaper per BTC rate with cheaper Bitcoins (obviously comes with elevated risks).

Basically, Bitcoin down = make double the money by shorting shitcoins. So the connection between futures tanking Bitcoin and altcoins tanking even more is crystal clear once you crunch the numbers.

Would merit for attentiveness, but ran out meriting the Mic whisky taster set.

Then i share Some with you... to send one in your name
BOB was very generous

Thx Bob you certainly help me out with sending ability’s (as many more do as well)
Thx a lot but i Will not hoard them .... just keep spreading them in Fun, good, appropriate post etc

3800ish a good candleMIC closing for this evening

A pump would be Nice (especialy this week when we have our run up to newyear)





Best thread on BTCT. Also merry Christmas.

Edit: Oh, Boblawbraw ninja'd me some merits as well. Thanks!



1270. Post 48885897 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.22h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 26, 2018, 02:47:46 AM
XRP: 2025 (transcendence)

Will the devs have finished dumping their premine by then?

No.  The order books would never cope.
XRP Cash SV Reloaded ThisTimeForReal V2.0 will come out that year.



1271. Post 48900587 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on December 26, 2018, 08:18:22 PM
Interesting alchemy..

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/12/eaau3275

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Abstract

The control of product distribution in a multistep catalytic selective hydrogenation reaction is challenging. For instance, the deep hydrogenation of dimethyl oxalate (DMO) is inclined to proceed over Cu/SiO2 catalysts because of inevitable coexistence of Cu+ and Cu0, leading to hard acquisition of the preliminary hydrogenation product, methyl glycolate (MG). Here, the oriented DMO hydrogenation into MG is achieved over the sputtering (SP) Cu/SiO2 catalysts with a selectivity of more than 87% via freezing Cu in a zero-valence state. Our density functional theory calculation results revealed that Cu0 is the active site of the preliminary hydrogenation step, selectively converting DMO to MG via •H addition, while Cu+ is a key factor for deep hydrogenation. The prominent Coster-Kronig transition enhancement is observed over SP-Cu/SiO2 from Auger spectra, indicating that the electron density of inner shells in Cu atoms is enhanced by high-energy argon plasma bombardment during the SP process. Thus, the “penetration effect” of outermost electrons could also be enhanced, making these Cu nanoparticles exhibit high oxidation resistance ability and present noble metal–like behaviors as Au or Ag. Therefore, the regulation of Cu chemical properties by changing the electron structure is a feasible strategy to control the hydrogenation products, inspiring the rational design of selective hydrogenation catalysts.

tl;dr  While not exactly transmutation of copper to gold it is pretty damn close and might have a profound impact on industrial usage down the road.
Physics is why I'm staying the fuck out of "precious metals", period. Anything that can be physically produced has a high chance of seeing its production cost dwindle down this century. Too much crap going on that is directly and indirectly going to drive synthesis costs down.



1272. Post 48900835 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: dandannn on December 26, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
At Premier League's game between Brighton and Arsenal today :



eToro adverts seem to be appearing on most premier league fixtures, have done for a while now.
People who are into football often are into gambling on the match outcomes. eToro seems to cater to the same demographic.



1273. Post 48902545 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 26, 2018, 11:52:36 PM
Localbitcoins Volume Analysis Shows Countries Where Fiat is Hyperinflationary, Bitcoin Gaining Traction

https://cryptoiq.co/localbitcoins-volume-analysis-shows-countries-where-fiat-is-hyperinflationary-bitcoin-gaining-traction/

Quote
South America Seeing Rapid Increase in Peer to Peer Bitcoin Trading

India Peer to Peer Bitcoin Trading Surges Due to Ban of Centralized Exchanges

Iran Sanctions Cause Peer to Peer Bitcoin Trading to Spike

Russia and Kazakhstan Have Rising Bitcoin Trading as Fiats Experience Inflation


This is what Bitcoin is all about.  Not Wall Street.  About giving people under oppressive regimes a financial escape route.  Best post this week.  
Especially coupled with the satellite streamed blockchain.



1274. Post 48903170 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 27, 2018, 01:12:08 AM
Cool.   I found this:

https://hackernoon.com/building-your-own-bitcoin-satellite-node-6061d3c93e7
Anyone know how safe these things are? E.g. could somebody fuck with your transactions by hijacking the signal before it gets to its destination and then altering the receiving address? Wouldn't mind one of these toys, but not sure how hot a wallet would be.



1275. Post 48917504 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on December 27, 2018, 03:59:16 PM
What has to happen happens, who cares? If the rollercoaster is going to crash, then it's going to crash, better have fun while the end is coming Smiley Life's for living, not overthinking what will come and calculating everything 30 years ahead. Live in the fucking moment.
You can "live in the moment" and plan ahead at the same time. Either extreme on its own is probably bad.



1276. Post 48920424 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Kylapoiss on December 27, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
What has to happen happens, who cares? If the rollercoaster is going to crash, then it's going to crash, better have fun while the end is coming Smiley Life's for living, not overthinking what will come and calculating everything 30 years ahead. Live in the fucking moment.

There's a balance to be met between carpe diem and preparedness for the future. One is like a heart without a brain, and the other a brain without a heart.

I don't mean one should destroy themselves while waiting for the doom, but saving everything for the future seems just plain wrong. Obviously you have to think about the future, as the world is not going to end any time soon, but you should live your life to the fullest as anything can happen in any moment. A car crash, a plane crash, you fall through the ice in winter and drown or a meteor hits your head. Who knows Cheesy Too many "smart" people think only of the future and forget about the present.
Sure, but I wouldn't let an event as unlikely as a car crash or a meteor impact stop me from making sure that I'll live a wealthy life tomorrow, just so I can get a little bit more fucked up right now.



1277. Post 48935467 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: markj113 on December 28, 2018, 10:22:35 AM


I would say that quote is bollocks.

How many people across the world own a piece of gold jewellery or a gold coin?

Gold is far more decentralised than bitcoin (mining and coin distribution is far from decentralised)
The quote is talking about potentials. You are talking about what "is". Gold has a history spanning millennia. Hence your argument doesn't make sense until at least an isomorphically equal amount of time has passed during which Bitcoin could have distributed. That amount of time will be lower than for gold due to the amount of people alive now vs the amount of people alive in the past as well as developments in infrastructure (hence isomorphic).

But as is it doesn't make sense to compare the level of current decentralization of gold vs Bitcoin.



1278. Post 48936279 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 28, 2018, 05:15:50 PM
Watching the silver price slowly fall back to $6 over the next decade will be even worse.

From a TA point of view, $10 looks like a very strong support and potential bounce. But, r0ach is always talking about costs of production and oil as the main factor. Oil price is gonna dump really hard over the next couple of decades. As much as electrical cars increase their market share the more affected will be the demand of oil. Main demand right now is coming from cars all over the world. Another interesting side effect is that long distance flights will become even cheaper.

I'm sorry.

Where do you think all this electricity is going to come from?

While there will certainly be plenty of volatility in the energy sector, even "dumps", broadly speaking oil will never, ever, be cheaper in real terms.

Even serious industry paid annalists acknowledge that we are past peak EROI, and there is simply no replacement for the energy density of fossil fuels.
Does that analysis factor in fusion eventually becoming economically viable or not?



1279. Post 48953022 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 29, 2018, 03:47:13 AM
As for the rest, it’s 2018.  Not believeing in science is only fashionable on YouTube conspiracy channels.   There’s no scientific proof rings as hollow as the cigarette companies that still claim there is no link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. 

you have no clue what you are talking about ... skeptical scientists have been treated like filth in the media and public forums by the eco-nazis for that long, so now they just shut up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7Xfyv6k4

we are living in times of crypto-authoritarian regimes when scientists live in fear of putting forward legitimate results, if you're okay with that keep parroting the party myths ... that's not a conspiracy, that's the reality of our time. Are you a weak-minded fool following the mob and their propaganda masters or are you made of stronger stuff that you will be proud to tell your grandchildren about?
Not the best way to bring a point across, but certainly very valid. This critique is precisely why I left academia. It's a commercialized shitshow increasingly void of rigour.



1280. Post 48954156 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 29, 2018, 06:34:46 AM
The problem I see is that scientists who disagree are being pushed out of the debate. Which leads to dogma and very little science.

We had that issue in my country.  Some background checks were done on the scientists that disagreed with the 97%.  It turns out they were funded by an independent policy think tank. Whose largest donor was a large coal company.

Sometimes even scientists are corrupt.  
Show me any significant number of the 97% scientists conducting research into the counter to their own arguments and you'll have true science. If you look for ways to confirm what you believe or suspect you will always find something given enough time. Unless they are actively trying to shit on their own arguments there's no science being conducted. And what I've seen was always the same old same old, namely regurgitating the common consensus. Which is understandable as well, as anything else won't get funded and academia is way more competitive than it should be already.

Do I think that going solar and shit like that is good? Sure, but mostly for the decentralization aspect and the thus introduced autonomy of the individual, as well as the fact that oil etc is finite and too expensive. We've had climate changing for longer than we've existed and anyone who thinks that scientists have figured out even a fraction of climate, despite the fact that they can not even accurately predict the weather, is believing in voodoo and fairies. Climate is far too complex for our laughable tools to grasp right now. Maybe in a few decades or centuries we'll have a chance, but as is I see attempts and a bunch of people profiteering off of them.

I thought that oil, tobacco, drugs and co would be enough to not actually believe anything anyone says these days. You might be inclined in a certain way, but having firm beliefs and fighting over them seems retarded to me. Especially when the most brilliant scientists were literally driven insane (e.g. Cantor who was put into an insane asylum for his discoveries regarding different types of infinity among many others).



Edit: Marked part of your post in bold, as it's precisely the point that I've tried to make here. Small addition, sometimes the majority doesn't even realize that they've become corrupted.



1281. Post 48954461 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 29, 2018, 08:53:31 AM
3) collapsing fisheries stock ... yep totally agree with you here, it sucks, people are stupid and greedy and the tragedy of the commons will prevail any time you get a shared resource situation like this. I think inevitably aquaculture will alleviate this in the near to not-too-distant future. Fish-farming has come a long way fast since price of wild fish started spiking after stocks collapse, locally I've seen some great ventures in exotic fish species, delicacies that were always thought too hard to be farmed, lobster, abalone, white-bait, scallops, etc. In fact, I suggest invest, aquaculture is going to have a great profitable future and its good for our local habitat (I mean who doesn't love to go fishing for realz?)
I've actually been thinking about how viable a salmon or whatever pond/lake/farm on private property could be. I looked into it but found hardly anything useful beyond a basic confirmation that it's possible. Do you happen to have any idea as to how small scaled fish-farming could be made and how economical/costly it would be or have any reading pointers otherwise? Basically trying to figure out if it's mostly initial fixed costs or if it'll cost a fortune in sustaining. Would love a fucking salmon farm on my property.



1282. Post 48954568 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 29, 2018, 09:36:48 PM
^ If you get a proper answer (maybe including a detailed how-to and some additional tips and tricks as a bonus) for THAT question it will be clearly demonstrated that this thread actually delivers.

Legendary 110% thread.



1283. Post 48955787 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: Biodom on December 29, 2018, 09:05:42 PM

2) species loss ... ok maybe this is an issue, it's subjective and depends on your feelings though. Massive extinction events have happened regularly in the Earth's past from various means. How much species diversity is exactly the right amount? do you feel like playing god to determine that? humans have cultivated huge quantities of biomass in the form of crops, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, there are probably more animals alive on the planet today than at any time in the past, let's celebrate mammalian abundance husbanded by humans! ... are they just not the "right" animals for your liking? my liking? his liking? should we all be living in teepees and hunting the roaming meager herds of buffalo in competition with wolves and large cats? Who really knows what is the right balance for number of species and quantities of each species that should be alive on earth at any particular time? It's just an excessively complicated question to believe anyone who claims to know the answer, they are just bullshitting you to gain an advantage over you somehow.


Very much the crux of the matter as I see it.  Yes, as I have consistently maintained, my preference for the complex and diverse arrangement of forms out of which human intelligence arose is largely aesthetic.

You have demonstrated yourself not to be willfully ignorant.  You must understand that your preference for a subdued planet brought wholly under the reign of humanity is also aesthetic, a selfish and misguided aesthetic in my view but there it is.

I do not demand that you share my aesthetic values, though I will resist the conversion of wildness to commodity to the end.

We need natural habitats because it is where we, humans, will at some time spend all of our time in the absence of meaningful high intelligence requiring jobs.
With machines already on the verge of doing very complicated tasks much better than us and getting true insight into the nature of things (that they would be probably incapable of conveying back to us-see my other post), we would need nature more than ever.
Just one example: a machine is capable of reading X-rays 150 times faster than radiologist (making 250-300K/year) and giving a better diagnosis.
How you are going to compete with it? You can't, basically, unless you implement some luddite laws, but then you lose productivity.
While I quite appreciate nature I don't see why it would be needed (at the place in time that you are describing). Nature is just one among an uncountable amount of things to keep yourself entertained with.



1284. Post 48955824 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 29, 2018, 09:46:34 PM
I've actually been thinking about how viable a salmon or whatever pond/lake/farm on private property could be. I looked into it but found hardly anything useful beyond a basic confirmation that it's possible. Do you happen to have any idea as to how small scaled fish-farming could be made and how economical/costly it would be or have any reading pointers otherwise? Basically trying to figure out if it's mostly initial fixed costs or if it'll cost a fortune in sustaining. Would love a fucking salmon farm on my property.

I'm not sure salmon, being anadromous, can be reared in ponds, perhaps.

The salmon farms around here occupy valuable estuary areas and are severely infested with some sort of aquatic lice which then attack the young wild salmon as they come down to the salt water.

Same as it ever was.
Not sure what the source was, but I found something about small artificial lakes with salmon. Those shouldn't run into the lice problem, at least not for the wild ones as there would be none. Been wondering if I could get enough shrimp to simultaneously make the salmon delicious and sustainable though (e.g. without having to throw tons of shrimps into the lake every so often). Is it even possible to artificially balance an eco-system that doesn't have either population die?



1285. Post 48955856 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 29, 2018, 10:28:10 PM
My limited experience with raising fish in ponds:

1.  Dig a deep hole, as deep as possible.  We have rock 2 meters down.  Line with fish pond liner (like heavy duty black garbage bags)

2.  Add some rocks from the garden onto the liner.  

3.  Fill with water or wait for it to rain.

4. Research fish native to the area

5.  Buy some pond plants the fish like to eat, put in pond and wait a couple of months for them to become established. Add lilies for shade.  

6.  Buy some baby fish and dump them in the pond.

7.  Ignore for a year and let them be fish.  Don’t feed them.

8. Be continually surprised at how big the bastards are.  

Total set up costs: about $2k, mostly labour for hole digging, lining the pond and materials.  Total running costs:  $0.  

If I was to do it again, I would plan for more comprehensive shade to reduce algae growth.  Overhanging trees would be good but we have space restrictions with current pond location.

Main thing for me is keeping an eye on water levels.  We tend to lose more to evaporation than we get in rain due to dry climate, so we have to supplement some times.  Deeper pond with more shade would help here.
This is pretty much what I've been looking for. Do you have any idea if it's possible to balance out multiple types of fish/shrimp in a way that doesn't have either population dwindle to zero? And to what extent do you have to worry about how many you can eat, or is your pond strictly decorative?


+2 WOsMerit



1286. Post 48955889 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on December 29, 2018, 11:07:36 PM
https://twitter.com/scotty321/status/1079150414820446208
Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.



1287. Post 48956062 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.23h):

Quote from: bitserve on December 29, 2018, 11:47:19 PM

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.
He's a Mensa Member. He doesn't need opsec.



1288. Post 49104663 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

https://cointelegraph.com/news/nasdaq-powered-exchange-to-launch-eu-regulated-tokenized-stock-trading

Probably old, but I've fallen too far behind over the holidays to check.

Step one towards crypto equity looks about done. Which should drive demand for Bitcoin as trading stock against BTC becomes a possibility that will increase liquidity. Hopefully not too late for capital flight out of stocks into corn in what seems like an upcoming recession.


After this it seems like a matter of time until stock and crypto become equivalent.



1289. Post 49104708 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Very appropriate.



1290. Post 49200242 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 12, 2019, 08:54:38 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Didn’t use the whiskey tasting set yet, but gonna try already one
Which one to take
@BTCMILIONAIRE ??
Probably late, but I'd go with Glenfiddich or Macallan. The former is pretty smooth and easy to get into.



1291. Post 49201942 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on January 13, 2019, 01:41:45 AM
A detailed argument for the bottom being in:

https://medium.com/@renato_shira/bitcoin-bottom-is-in-35ff1e2b9403

I don’t agree with it but worth considering.  

Quote
we can approximate the average price paid by people that have BTC now

I made it about this far into it(lies, I looked at the whole thing) before losing interest..   Sounds like another smallcoinerTM who bought the top. /s

From a purely theoretical view point, I applaud the energy put into trying to craft a reasonable fundamental metric for calculating bitcoins price. The reality is that we are still in a speculative market and I feel that is what will drive the price action for a considerable time to come.
Disagree with the bottom being in as well. The arguments and metrics he provides indicate that we could still see another leg down as well, which implies wishful thinking on his side to me.

The MVRV argument is solid though, and that is indeed expected to play out that way. Pretty sure that nobody is surprised by the notion that volatility will decrease with appreciating market capitalization though.



1292. Post 49201965 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 12, 2019, 11:31:28 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Didn’t use the whiskey tasting set yet, but gonna try already one
Which one to take
@BTCMILIONAIRE ??
Probably late, but I'd go with Glenfiddich or Macallan. The former is pretty smooth and easy to get into.

dammit I chivas regalt that whiskey, and still not used to it, it came in a normal glass with a small glass with ice on the side
just drunk it out of the glass with no ice
drunk it slow kept it a few seconds in the mouth.... ( tasted better as the first time) curious for the next one Cheesy
doing my best with this


Should be somewhat similar to Glenfiddich, in the sense that scotches from Speyside are usually smoother than others. Haven't tried that one myself yet. In general, there are a truckload of different flavour profiles though, so trying different ones each time until you get a clearer picture isn't a bad idea. Would definitely revisit ones that I've dismissed at any point as my palette develops though.



1293. Post 49215914 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Wonder how many people told their boss to fuck off, then apologized, then told him to fuck off again and what the longest chain was. Bart op.



1294. Post 49216957 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: kingcolex on January 13, 2019, 07:14:14 PM
For fuck sake another dip? I guess it was a fucking fools rally, when the fuck are we going to finally start to recover? I am just getting fucking mad about this shit now, not really depressed just how long could a fucking bear market be.
Check silver or DB stock. (Decade long)



1295. Post 49218023 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Wall Observer thread
has turned towards poetry.
Capitulation.



1296. Post 49218541 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Cassius on January 13, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Wall Observer thread
has turned towards poetry.
Capitulation.

A little late to the party but I heard this one recently:
Haikus are always
Heptadekasyllabic
Exactly like this.

Though I don't think the party will even start until $3200, and then it could go either way.
So meta.



1297. Post 49234532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 14, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
Also just read small BOB post

@BOB don’t you dare leaving us! Wink
^



1298. Post 49234862 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on January 14, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
Anyone who still thinks that Craig Wright is Satoshi is definitely a "low life scammer":


Inb4 Satoshi is a genius like no other and is taking on the role as the mentally unstable scammer CW in order to clearly demonstrate that Bitcoin can not be fucked with. He also set up the conspiracy that got some to think that he may or may not be Hal, who is no longer with us (RIP) and thus can't come out of the shadows to prove ownership of the genesis wallet of legends.

When movie



1299. Post 49234969 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 14, 2019, 08:02:07 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/01/14/russia-plans-tackle-us-sanctions-bitcoin-investment-says-kremlin/

Quote
Russia is preparing an investment in Bitcoin to replace the US dollar as a reserve currency in a bid to tackle US sanctions, according to a Russian economist with close ties to the Kremlin.
Cryptocurrencies have seen a surge of interest in Russia, with President Vladimir Putin expressing interest in the digital assets in recent months. Mr Ginko believes Bitcoin and the wider cryptocurrency industry now account for 8pc of Russia’s GDP, and investment to bolster the country’s reserves with Bitcoin could start as soon as February.

“[The] Russian government is about to make a step to start diversifying financial reserves into Bitcoin since Russia [is] forced by US sanctions to dump US Treasury bonds and [take] back US dollars,” Mr Ginko said.

“These sanctions and the will to adopt modern financial technologies lead Russia to the way of investing its reserves into Bitcoin.”
Been waiting for MSM to confirm this. Thanks.



1300. Post 49234986 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: D. Lerk on January 14, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
Something to ponder: your carefully crafted high quality posts matter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most_of_what_you_read_on_the_internet_is_written

This is something I ponder on and off. That 1-3% figure is pretty far out. I'll bet there are people who've been reading this thread for longer than most of us have been here who've never even registered, let alone written anything.

I'm sure it's easy to be intimidated by the astonishing power and paint-stripping insight of titanic intellects such as the one I happen to possess. I still think they should make themselves known. We need a lurker amnesty.

Come on out. We won't hurt you.

Finally, someone polite enough to invite the guy in the corner.

I've been lurking since Spring 2012. AMA.
Welcome mate. How has your ride been since then?



1301. Post 49235181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 14, 2019, 10:21:26 PM
When I was younger I was able to sleep in the middle of a death metal concert. Now at my middle age, I can't stand a slightest noise. Not just while I sleep but also when I am awake. Sometimes I just want to strangle the people who talk way too loudly. I want to shout at their faces "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Btw I bought some more today. Wink

Patience remains a virtue, which should be more adhanced with age.  

I have come to understand that I am a bit less risk taking with personal confrontations as I have aged, because it seems quite likely that my face will not take a punch (or a sucker punch) as easily as I could have tolerated in my youth.

Tongue Tongue

We also are more conscious on what we would have to lose if we "win" the fight. It is not worth it unless for survival reasons.

I was very crazy not so long ago. I have changed a lot too. Life is much easier this way.
I generally wouldn't risk it anyways.

You never know what kind of retard is carrying a knife or gun around and ready to stab the shit out of you before you can react, regardless of whether or not you have weapons of your own. There are also the incredibly rare events where you could get one-hit killed by pure chance (hitting your head on a fall down or whatever), regardless of how strong you may or may not be.

I'll take a potentially longer life over flaunting my ego any day. If I wanted to fight I'd do it in a more controlled environment.

Not sure how that would change if there weren't a select few people who'd be devastated if I randomly died though, as that's a very big motivator for risk-management for me.



1302. Post 49235197 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Don't teach the wrong people how to get merits Mic. Wink



1303. Post 49235512 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 14, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/01/14/russia-plans-tackle-us-sanctions-bitcoin-investment-says-kremlin/

Quote
Russia is preparing an investment in Bitcoin to replace the US dollar as a reserve currency in a bid to tackle US sanctions, according to a Russian economist with close ties to the Kremlin.
Cryptocurrencies have seen a surge of interest in Russia, with President Vladimir Putin expressing interest in the digital assets in recent months. Mr Ginko believes Bitcoin and the wider cryptocurrency industry now account for 8pc of Russia’s GDP, and investment to bolster the country’s reserves with Bitcoin could start as soon as February.

“[The] Russian government is about to make a step to start diversifying financial reserves into Bitcoin since Russia [is] forced by US sanctions to dump US Treasury bonds and [take] back US dollars,” Mr Ginko said.

“These sanctions and the will to adopt modern financial technologies lead Russia to the way of investing its reserves into Bitcoin.”

Were those russian barts? Unlikely, but possible.
If there were any Russian Barts at all I'd assume they'd come with something more official and be much bigger as well. The FOMO should be quite big then. Until then it'll be accumulation time with whales making waves to scam the little retail investor out of their corn.



1304. Post 49235524 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 14, 2019, 11:03:52 PM


https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1084924745865400320

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Inb4 Bitcoin Pentillionaires.



1305. Post 49235653 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Not sure if it was posted before. Just entertaining the idea of a Trillion Dollar Bitcoin. That would imply a value of $10,000 per Satoshi. And thus either food prices in the hundreds of thousands or Bitcoin only existing among the ultra hyper mega wealthy Billionaires to Pentillionaires.
If that ever happened traditional fiat currencies would either be dead and Bitcoin would be the de facto global currency, or it'd be only used to purchase whole countries on planets or some shit like that.

Either never going to happen (most likely) or not in our lifetimes, but sure fun to think about the potential implications of such a valuation.



1306. Post 49235700 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 14, 2019, 11:30:16 PM
^
that INB4 was for in already ( as posted already)

Ah no, I used inb4 more along the lines of "in before the event plays out" as opposed to trying to say that you've reposted (which I neither know nor care about).



1307. Post 49236985 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 15, 2019, 12:30:36 AM
^ Just so you can finally shut up repeating the same old argument over and over. Yes, we are going to a cashless society. That is probably already irreversible, it's just a matter of time.
No, I don't think states are supporting Bitcoin for that nor they really need to but if that were the case it would go to the moon first.

Now just fucking stop FFS.

What do you mean we are going to a cashless society?

The only time I have used cash in the past 12 months was when I was defeated by a parking machine in a UK seaside town which would not let me out without a pound coin.  I had to go to an ATM and then to a pub to buy a beer so I could get a coin.  Fucking savages in the UK.

Well that's exactly what I mean. I still profusely use cash because of reasons. Most people don't because of convenience. But we are going onto a path where soon will come the day that we won't be able to use cash (for the most part) even if WE WANTED TO.

Most euro countries you can not even buy a high end TV set using cash. It's forbidden by law. They will keep decreasing the max limits over time.

Why?

Because cash is way harder to control than banking fiat or even Bitcoin.
I only use cash for herbs or while in Japan. Too lazy to pass by an ATM otherwise.

What's the deal with those max limits though? And how recent is that? I bought a high-end TV some 10 years ago with cash and didn't have an issue with that. Granted that was pay cash on delivery, but still.



1308. Post 49237004 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: gentlemand on January 15, 2019, 12:33:23 AM
I wonder what exchange they use. Don't tell me they use finex.

Absolutely no way in hell are they using a wild crypto.

The article repeatedly references 'blockchain' and nothing but.
Potentially to camouflage their FX tradings so as to not attract attention to a potential market inefficiency that can be abused with Bitcoin. Not saying it exists or that's what's going on, but there are various reasons not to just say "blockchain" when in reality you mean Bitcoin or some other crypto.



1309. Post 49237027 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 15, 2019, 02:36:09 AM
" Russia Will Buy $10 Billion in Bitcoin, Ditch US Dollar and Become Huge Crypto Whale: Russian Economist "  Shocked

Source : https://dailyhodl.com/2019/01/08/russia-will-buy-10-billion-in-bitcoin-ditch-us-dollar-and-become-a-huge-crypto-whale-russian-economist/

It seems like this might be fake news according to this article which is in Russian :

https://www.rbc.ru/economics/09/01/2019/5c36271a9a79472653e32608

I don't speak Russian but from what I got with Google Translator, Russians have changed $100 Billions into Yuans, Yens and Euros. There was no plan of changing them into BTC (or is this about another $100 Billions ?)


More about this fake news probability :

https://cryptoslate.com/fake-news-russias-alleged-10-billion-bitcoin-investment/
Kind of makes sense. Why would they announce a move that would massively shift the price against their favour in the short term instead of just stealth buying like JPM & co?



1310. Post 49237032 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 15, 2019, 02:38:25 AM
Fibbodoggy


+1 WO sMerit



1311. Post 49237432 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 15, 2019, 03:31:12 AM
OTC Buying Pressure Increases

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/01/the-week-bitcoin-otc-volumes-up-bitwise-etf-bitmain-appoints-new-ceo/

"Buying pressure has reportedly increased at many notable OTC crypto trading desks. One of the largest OTC traders, Cumberland, tweeted that the imbalance between buyers and sellers spiked by 60% over the last week. Galaxy Digital saw robust buy back from asset managers, who previously sold assets for tax purposes. The nature of most of Paxos’ trading activity this year was buy tickets from emerging markets traders. Circle’s OTC desk saw a “come back” in January after elevated sell pressure in December. Genesis OTC volume is up by 50% year-on-year. According to a director of the fintech research firm Tabb Group, Monica Summerville, the OTC market is about two to three times larger than trading activity across the whole of the retail exchanges."

We heard the same story at $6k.  BS. 

There is genuine organic demand out there but I’m not looking to OTC, Wall Street bonuses or Chinese New Year to right the ship. 
Year of the Doge will bring dollar parity to Dogecoin though. No doubt about it.



1312. Post 49288760 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: bitserve on January 16, 2019, 11:33:12 PM
Sideways, sideways....

Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.

I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.

The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!

Will WO also deliver this time? lol
WO please, I understand that we're not on a 90 degree up course to the moon, but this thread has a reputation to uphold. Somebody respond to the man.



1313. Post 49288841 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 17, 2019, 11:04:07 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49272177#msg49272177 ^
Guess the non-English language made the entire post, including quote, just fly under my radar. I retract my former post. WO delivers.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm just blind.



1314. Post 49291620 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: nanobtc on January 17, 2019, 01:50:38 AM
Sideways, sideways....

Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.

I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.

The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!

Will WO also deliver this time? lol

I am certainly not an expert, but are you building new, or retrofitting an existing AC wired home/building? With solar I think you have two main choices to wind up with usable electricity: Use an inverter to convert it to AC to run your existing appliances (expensive), or build new, with larger wiring in the walls for DC (to avoid voltage drop), then find all DC appliances (expensive). Many do that with camping and RV appliances.

That is on top of the power generation itself. Then if you want to watch TV at night (or whatever) you need batteries/storage (expensive).

I don't know what your weather is, but you can get better BTUs per dollar of heating perhaps with a passive heat storage, and pump heated water around. Perhaps gravel beds under the house, and/or water for thermal storage. If you need air conditioning, you need a serious inverter (expensive) or RV AC unit. I haven't looked, there are surely green-type DC appliances now that are better than using camping/RV appliances. It would look funny for your luxurious BTC millionaire home to have tiny RV fridges around...

If you are building new, it's much easier to implement some of this stuff, compared to retrofitting.  I am not an expert.

A 125000 liter pool doesn't sound very large (is this a swimming pool?), where I am from ponds are small (measured in tens of thousands of gallons), and lakes are measured in acres. Depending on your weather, perhaps some sort of geothermal involvement could help, and that takes a lot of power for all the pumping.
The pond jazz was my earlier question, namely whether or not a self-sustained pond with e.g. salmons and shrimp would be possible on private property. Here we're likely talking about an actual pool though. Different question.

Anyway, nice post. Hopefully someone will send more merit your way.



1315. Post 49305633 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Miners in pieces,
Way too lazy to mine Grin,
Buy bags near year two.



1316. Post 49306105 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

Quote from: rebal15 on January 19, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
Fuck this market, i sold 60% of my btc yesterday. if it goes on like this for the next three months, I'll sell everything.  Angry

Good good you cannot do any better

I am serious, I don't have time to play.

Did you buy at 19k?



1317. Post 49318849 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 19, 2019, 03:42:55 PM

 It's probably not a good idea to convert your pocket change into Bitcoin dust since the transfer fees would be more than the amount however if you have something like this - brb


Edit: apologies.  This is actually my daughter's bag of change (wrangled from her mother and I originally) so I had to answer 20 questions before I was allowed to borrow it!



 There is probably over $50 in this bag.  As the denominations get smaller it becomes more of a pain to roll them and exchange them for bills.  The Coinstar machine is great for that though the fee is upwards of 10%.  Can't wait for the Bitcoin though!  I have TUBS of pennies to exchange Wink



10 % ? F...!

Couldn't this work like a faucet where you can only move your BTC once you have a minimum amount ?
LN and/or batched withdrawals should fix any tx fee issues. Or am I missing something?

Also, if I used cash at all I'd be happy to throw my change into a Bitcorn machine for a 10% fee. I lose most of the coins I have anyways or throw them into random tip jars and whatnot.



1318. Post 49322393 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on January 19, 2019, 09:11:56 PM
Took the TALISKER single malt whiskey

Any good? Still gotta bring it .... Wink
It's somewhat peaty which isn't for everyone / harder to get into. It actually tastes surprisingly sweet once your palette adapts, with hints of something salty.



1319. Post 49336460 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: hisslyness on January 20, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
I reiterate;

CORPORATIONS DO NOT PAY TAX

Customers pay tax, on rare occasions shareholders may bear some of that burden for a short time.

This is not mere semantics.  To a corporation taxes licenses and fees are nothing more than a line item, part of the cost of converting one set of goods and services into another set of goods and services.  It will perform this conversion at a profit or it will cease to exist.  All costs associated in the conversion are passed to the purchasers of the output goods and services.

So if my company sells products or services to the government, does that mean the government has paid tax for me?
Customers of government services are not governments but citizens. Often involuntarily so.



1320. Post 49336480 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 20, 2019, 11:31:33 AM
Well this wee dip is a bit random.  

Edit:  so far has bounced off support as expected.  Nice.


Looks like a reasonable averaging to me around a price line smack through the middle of the barts.



1321. Post 49355614 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: BitBustah on January 21, 2019, 06:30:42 PM
A few interesting factoids and opinions:

Davos: the backlash
Corp profits above pay trend for a while. Author thinks that it should go back to trend.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-21/davos-the-backlash-against-fat-cat-bosses-is-coming

An opposite opinion: why a few have so many?
Pareto law as an explanation (J. Peterson):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_FfS1kHfY

Finally: tax collection employes supercomputer/service
https://www.wnd.com/2019/01/big-data-meets-big-govt-new-irs-spy-software/
Quote
It could also flag a person whose tax return shows relatively low annual income but whose social-media posts indicate something entirely different.

Integration of all three:

If the trend would become toward more taxation (as Davos article predicts), then the rich would probably employ crypto in some form, hopefully, bitcoin.
Bitcoin is dealing with high gini already, so it won't be a problem to absorb a $ trillion or two or ten.





this chart is old but it represents the wealth inequality trend It has gotten really bad over the last 10 years.

I'm sure most of you are wealthy enough or libertarian enough to not be concerned about the younger generation and lower class.  Millenials can't even afford to purchase houses,  most of the new wealth created is getting sucked up by the top.  Baby boomer generation could at least work a normal job and have a good life but today things are upside down.  The thing is this can't go on much longer before the inequality gets too out of hand and with job automation getting worse.  Will eventually be revolution unless things change.
We live in a world with finite space and constantly increasing population. Millenials can very well afford houses, but they want houses in heavily congested areas that they can not afford. I never understood why poor people would try to move to rich cities without having a job guarantee.
Millionaires could start complaining that they can't afford the houses of billionaires and it'd be roughly the same thing with an extra three zeroes. It's just a plain retarded argument that has no place in reality.

Furthermore, wealth concentrating among older people is also a more than obvious conclusion. After all, they had more time to mature in their financial decisions.

Wealth inequality is a non-problem and merely a propaganda talking point that distracts people from empowering themselves. I'm a millenial from a low income immigrant family by the way, and there's no such thing as lack of upward mobility. Just don't fucking spend 99% of your waking hours getting shitfaced and you'll at least move toward a comfortable upper middle class life with more than enough options to purchase reasonable real estate (multiple rooms, pools, saunas in most cities). It may not be easy, but it certainly is as simple as that.

Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them. Whining and trying to steal from others who have done so before is going to do fuck all at best, and get a lot of people killed at worst. Just stop.



1322. Post 49357715 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 21, 2019, 08:43:25 PM
and there's no such thing as lack of upward mobility.

I agree that each individual case mostly depends on someone's effort, however, there is some evidence that upward mobility has declined (for some reason, especially in the Midwest, less in NY, Massachusetts and Montana):
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6336/398

You can argue why it happaned, but not whether it happened or not, according to the authors.

Lack of real upward mobility does not imply the lack of opportunity for such. There are all kinds of reasons not to move upwards. Tribes exist that specifically avoid all contact with anything outside of their world, by choice.



1323. Post 49371655 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 22, 2019, 08:29:43 AM
Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

QFT.

+1

What he said.

What if they used the time, then figured out the solutions and then realized every one of those solutions would get them killed so decided to just sit back and complain until someone else finds a better solution that doesn't get them killed?

I can't even figure out what you are getting at. Working on life will get you killed? I guess in some sense. In the long run, we're all dead.

Life is hard. Buck up, bucko - or get lapped by those willing to put in the work.

I dated a girl for a number of years.

Her father was wealthy and powerful.  He owned 25+ houses that he rented out.  He was also a drunk and highly abusive.

The mother eventually divorced him after a series of domestic violence incidents.  The father decided to make the mother's life a living hell.   He hired lawyers to sue the mother for everything under the sun, stalked the mother and tried to destroy her friendship networks.  This went on for five years.  

The mother grew deeply depressed and semi suicidal.  My girlfriend and her sister at the age of 8 had to get the mother out of bed in the morning, get her dressed so the mother could drive them to school.  Some days they couldn't get their mother out of bed so they missed school.  

My girlfriend was incredibly smart and motivated but she missed a lot of school during that five year period.  It affected her grades and she had to work hard to try to catch up.  She also had the mental load of trying to parent her own mother through the divorce and aftermath.  There is no doubt in my mind if she had had a normal, stable childhood, she would have been a surgeon or rocket scientist.  Instead she will likely never achieve her full potential.  

Let's not kid ourselves that everyone has equality of opportunity.  Because they don't.
Equality of opportunity doesn't mean equality of hardships encountered either. You can have the same opportunities on a race track, but still end up staggering. Doesn't mean the other racers had better opportunities than you. Doesn't mean you were at fault for staggering either. The question is, do you get up or start complaining.

Your ex could have just given up, but she didn't. So she's better off than she would have been. And unless she's too old to move she still has plenty of opportunity to move upward. An average income is enough to retire as a (multi) millionaire if you invest a good bulk of it. Even if you start investing at 30-40.

P.S. You could also argue that those hardships made her more resilient against stress. Which could very well mean that it would be easier for her to achieve top 1% and higher goals than the average person. Would that mean that she had greater opportunities than others? And that the people without such hardships were dealt an unfair card?



1324. Post 49371733 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: mOgliE on January 22, 2019, 09:22:29 AM
No one is asking for life to be fair.  It isn't. 

Just don't deceive yourself that you hit a home run because you happened to be born on third base.  

WTF are you talking about?

Is there a point you are trying to make? Has something held you back in life? Is that your excuse?  Do yourself a favor and don't make excuses for yourself or others. Lets hold ourselves accountable. Life works SO MUCH better than way.



He's trying to explain to the dumbasses you are that saying something as stupid as "if you have time to complain you don't deserve to go up" that maybe, JUST MAYBE, there is a more systematic problem and that success is absolutely not linked to hardwork.

Shut the fuck up and get your head out of your ass.

Anyone saying that success is linked to hardwork deserves to be let alone in any third world country to see how their hardwork will be rewarded. Or in any poor family in any Western country.

Assholes.
I'll speak a language you can understand, as you've kindly started doing so yourself.

Your argument about hard work is fucking retarded. Only an imbecile would make that argument, as even a child understands that chopping away at a tree with a plastic butter knife won't ever do anything. Will it be hard work? Yes. Does it accomplish anything? No.

If you're too stupid to stop repeating what hasn't worked for your entire life and complain about the outcome that's on you.



1325. Post 49372023 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: julian071 on January 22, 2019, 06:22:38 PM
Relevance of anecdote?

Sounds to me as if you are claiming that, seeing as we all have access to different opportunities, it isn't even worth trying to improve your circumstance.

I call bullshit on that. Everyone has the same opportunity to endeavor to improve their situation.
You're an intelligent guy but now you are deliberately misunderstanding. It's obvious the point was quite opposite of 'not worth trying' as the girl in this story "worked hard to catch up".

What really is BS is stating that everyone has the same opportunity to endeavour to improve their situation. In order to do that you'll need, well, opportunity. If you're totally tied up in whatever circumstances you might not have that. This idea that anyone can just 'break free' at any time from any circumstances is just plain naive frankly.
The idea that "trying to improve your life" could somehow be interpreted as "just breaking free at any time from any circumstance" is just plain naive. When did anybody ever say that improving your life was generally easy? Where do you even take those arguments from?



1326. Post 49373472 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: jbreher on January 22, 2019, 10:31:32 PM
Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

You're welcome.
In addition to this.

If all the people who spend their time complaining spent that time on finding sensible goals that are achievable by them and moved towards them, there'd be an inevitable increase in people who know what it takes to move upward as well as people who would be positioned to help their old peers do so.

I fail to see how a culture of complaining could in any reality possibly think to compete with this one. Anyone propagating that bullshit is part of the problem.



1327. Post 49376999 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 23, 2019, 05:34:09 AM
Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

As a person who had his first full time job being slightly less than 17 (took a year after the high school before enrolling in uni as I wanted to make sure that I was truly interested in this field), I say that both of you (jbreher and BTCMILLIONAIRE) are on the wrong side on this subject. Many times it is just random events, and not the effort. I had a few situations where a very sustained and qualified effort was there, but results were lacking and, in the opposite, when I almost did not try, yet the rewards were magnificent (as far as getting what i wanted accomplished fast). The connection between the effort and the results is tenuous at best.

On a side note:
Yeah, I get the tough love, but let see how you will react when your job is taken away by a super-smart AI in the near future.
There is a reason why all chess championships are not commercially viable anymore (ask Gary Kasparov) since nobody cares about how earthlings play when AlphaZero shows a true genius in the game and plays at the level humans can barely comprehend. Almost all of us might end up in a human "zoo" even sooner than I expect. Hopefully, bitcoin will make our days there more pleasant, but there cannot be any guarantees.
You're making false correlations. Just because it's possible to sometimes see greater results with less effort doesn't mean that it's generally desirable to put in no effort (or waste whatever effort you can bring up on whining). In any realistic scenario any individual that tries will perform better than the very same individual in the very same situation would without trying. There's just no sensible argument about this as far as I can see, although I'd be eager to hear one.

Implying that your efforts don't necessarily mean anything just because other people got more "money" or whatever without trying just doesn't make sense. Obviously some efforts will go to waste. But fact is, if you look at one individual person at any point in time that same person will be better off if they invest their time productively as opposed to wasting it on whining or doing nothing at all.




Also, the day an AI takes away humans jobs should be a global holiday. Personally, I can't fucking wait. As far as human zoo goes, I'm hard pressed to imagine a future in which we don't increase our own capabilities by making transfer of information from and to our computers more efficient.



1328. Post 49377035 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Hueristic on January 23, 2019, 06:13:13 AM
Allow me to pull it from the quote above:

Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

You're welcome.

If you truly believe that is globally true then you are either blind or a fool. first world views for first world problems.
You cannot think beyond Nintendo fat slobs that leach off society.
The world goes beyond your front yard.

What opportunities can these kids take advantage of?

https://www.child-soldiers.org/where-are-there-child-soldiers

I have no idea. I'm not on the ground where '56 non-state organizations' in '14 warring countries' are employing kids in this manner. All opportunity is specific to the individual. You're going to need to be more precise in your inquiry.

But to come full circle, what does that have to do with BITMILLIONAIRE's original statement? I shall repeat it once again, should you have already forgotten.

Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

And I will refer you back to my original reply to your snip of his post for your full circle.

So you are stating that the child soldier in your example would be better off complaining than trying to figure out how to stay alive or find a way out of his current life?



1329. Post 49377309 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Hueristic on January 23, 2019, 06:51:55 AM
So you are stating that the child soldier in your example would be better off complaining than trying to figure out how to stay alive or find a way out of his current life?

I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong.
So you'd rather have people complain and die than having them trying to figure out steps to improve their life in whatever ways accessible to them. How is that supposed to ever accomplish anything?



1330. Post 49377370 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 23, 2019, 06:58:22 AM

But to come full circle, what does that have to do with BITMILLIONAIRE's original statement? I shall repeat it once again, should you have already forgotten.

Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

Ok let's take slavery.  Yes there are slaves right now.  To wit:

Quote
Modern slavery is defined as slavery, servitude, forced or compulsory labour and human trafficking1. The 2016 Global Slavery Index estimates that 45.8m people in 167 countries are living in modern
slavery today2. The majority are victims of exploitation in private sector activities, such as manufacturing, construction and agriculture. Forced labour and slavery is big business — the International Labour
Organisation estimates that illicit profits from these crimes amount to US$150b per year. Businesses are facing increasing pressure to tackle the crisis of modern slavery head-on as awareness grows and
consumers demand more responsibility from their preferred brands. Modern slavery also represents a significant reputational risk to businesses as non-governmental organisations and the media ‘name
and shame’ companies who violate human rights.
 Source:  https://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/ey-the-uk-modern-slavery-act-2015/$FILE/ey-the-uk-modern-slavery-act-2015.pdf  



Can we safely assume that Jbear and BTCMillionaire think that any of the current 45 million slaves in the world that has time to complain about about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.
If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.



1331. Post 49377416 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

On an unrelated side note. It's quite interesting how the subsets of shared opinion holders on this thread seem to go through all possible permutations.



1332. Post 49377861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 23, 2019, 07:09:35 AM
If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them?  
You keep pulling shit out of your ass and trying to shove it down my throat.

You act as if I had stated that considering helping them or actively (trying to) do so shouldn't be allowed, which is false. None of that crap has anything to do with the argument though.


Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.
Nobody is stopping you from helping others, and props to you if you're not just a hypocrite running your mouth and actually doing what you preach to others (which I doubt). But none of that has anything to do with the fact that energy invested in complaining is wasted energy.

Best case you will make people aware of a given problem, but if that was your goal there are vastly more efficient ways that won't cause other gullible people to just complain as well.



1333. Post 49377920 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 23, 2019, 07:39:33 AM
I say that both of you (jbreher and BTCMILLIONAIRE) are on the wrong side on this subject. Many times it is just random events, and not the effort.

Which is, of course, why the lazy and the stupid are universally wallowing in riches, and the soup kitchens cater to those that identify opportunities and work ceaselessly to attain the next rung up.

Right.

 Roll Eyes

I have no fucking idea what whining and the lack of effort both of you keep talking about. It is probably something personal since you are so adamant about it.
Watch "Trading places". A bit of exaggeration, but an interesting idea. Not sure if it was tried IRL, though.
There is an interesting source, though:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-hedge-fund-geniuses-got-beaten-by-monkeys-again-2015-06-25
This all started with someone whining over wealth inequality and the widening wealth gap. Which should be completely irrelevant to literally everyone except data fetishists.



1334. Post 49378084 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 23, 2019, 07:51:17 AM
Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.

What you call "complaining" I call advocacy.  And advocacy works.  We wouldn't have the UK modern slavery laws without advocacy.  

Making it illegal for Western companies to profit from slavery is highly effective, because the directors go directly to jail.  And guess what, company directors sit up in their chairs and pay attention when you say "if you don't do X, you will go to jail".   Then the directors tell their C-suite, "don't fuck up on X, or I will fire you without hesitation".  Those are real results, in real time.  

That is one you will see strictly better results by "complaining" rather than blaming the victim.  

Because what you are doing is blaming the slave for being a slave.  And that achieves nothing.  
This just shows that your reading comprehension skills are non-existent. You're filling gaps that never even existed.

The quote of mine stated that:

An individual which chooses to invest their individual time into complaining about their individual situation instead of trying to improve their own individual situation doesn't deserve an improved situation. (Spoilers: Always the same individual.)


You now take an outsider, e.g. yourself, complaining on behalf of a victim (which you made up) to disprove my assertion.

None of what you've tried to state here has anything to do with what I've stated.

In my statement, the slave girl or child soldier or whatever the fuck you want to use as an appeal-to-emotion example (any individual can be used here, really) is better off investing their time into figuring out any way to improve their situation over complaining over their situation.
Complaining will do nothing to improve their situation, especially in the outlandish situations you've named here.

Yet you try to use those to disprove a completely different claim that you have made up (and constantly keep changing with new examples). All while trying to portray me as some kind of inhumane devil. That's some serious mental acrobatics that I would only expect out of a lawyer.



1335. Post 49378243 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 23, 2019, 08:08:13 AM
Yet you try to use those to disprove a completely different claim that you have made up (and constantly keep changing with new examples). All while trying to portray me as some kind of inhumane devil.

The point I am making, which you seem to be incapable of understanding, is that it is often outside of the power of the victim to change their circumstances.  Because they are a fucking slave.  

And there are relatively easy ways for us as Westerners to improve their situation.  But the ethos I see constantly repeated on this board (Ibian being a classic example) is that we shouldn't try, even if it is in our own interest to do so.  And I find that disgusting.  
I'm neither Ibian nor have I ever stated that people shouldn't be helped.

And you haven't made any fucking point.

You're deliberately missing a point that should be so obvious that it's incomprehensible that you try to argue against it, when it would do much more to help society than your whining. You're telling people to whine, I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.
You then keep coming up with slaves and child soldiers, which can neither be easily saved by Westeners nor are they in any way relevant to the point that I've made (nor do they disprove it, quite on the contrary everything you've said was evidence for my point).


P.S. I find your attitude disgusting, and expected more out of you than to assume that a call for self-improvement over self-pitying could in any way be constructed as "the most unfortunate people should be left to rot". Get your head out of your fucking ass.



1336. Post 49457869 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Hueristic on January 23, 2019, 05:11:22 PM
If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them?  
You keep pulling shit out of your ass and trying to shove it down my throat.

You act as if I had stated that considering helping them or actively (trying to) do so shouldn't be allowed, which is false. None of that crap has anything to do with the argument though.


Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.
Nobody is stopping you from helping others, and props to you if you're not just a hypocrite running your mouth and actually doing what you preach to others (which I doubt). But none of that has anything to do with the fact that energy invested in complaining is wasted energy.

Best case you will make people aware of a given problem, but if that was your goal there are vastly more efficient ways that won't cause other gullible people to just complain as well.


Simply denying they have a right to complain about their situation is detrimental to their cause. Deriding them is paramount to helping oppress them.

I may not agree with what you have to say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

But you should be aware of what repercussions your words may reap, if you are aware and still don't care then I will fail to listen although still acknowledge your right to speech. Even hate speech should be free although abhorrent, the problem is you can;t draw the line clearly, one mans hate is another mans reality.
My words would never reap repercussions if you weren't 100% illiterate.
I've stated a fact, if you use your own time on complaining about your situation instead of trying to improve it you will be in a worse situation than you would be otherwise. That's a simple and immutable fact. No arguing about it.

There are only repercussions if people like you or HM come along and make up different arguments on my behalf, which I have never made, and then try to portrait me as their own mental delusion.

You are either intellectually dishonest (didn't properly read and understand what has been said and filled the gaps with your own story, then refuse to accept the fact that you have done so), too mentally impaired to understand what I've said, or plain evil and a manipulator.

The argument that I've made has nothing to do with anything that you or HM made up when arguing back. You idiots are making up points of your own and pretending that they were mine.

Also, the only repercussions will be that you will be in a worse place in the future, as well as everybody who you claim to be trying to help. Your attitude is the precise and sole root of all problems in this world, regardless of which of the three reasons is responsible for your acts of twisting truth. You don't care about listening, you only care about making up arguments on other people's behalf and then pretending that you're the "good guy" by arguing against your own fairy tales. There will be no repercussions for me, because I understand very well that the overwhelming majority is evil, delusional, ego-tripping, or just plain retarded. If you however, act in real life as you do on here, you'll be the one eating shit when it proverbially hits the fan. Good luck with that.



1337. Post 49457885 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 23, 2019, 05:12:32 PM
I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.


No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.
Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM



1338. Post 49458074 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 24, 2019, 10:08:23 PM
Clean up all your exif data?

First thing imgur does upon upload, IIRC, is blow away any provided exif data.
Is that a fact? Never uploaded anything on here because I was too lazy to bother with exif.



1339. Post 49458320 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 25, 2019, 08:49:21 PM

Is this anti-wall or pro-WallStreet (#2)?

Are you equating immigrants to corrupt bankers and legacy finance and implying that much more drastic measures (such as war) are required to keep them at bay? You sick fucking Bitcoin maximalists seriously want to kill all immigrants just to make sure legacy finance won't succeed?




(Wouldn't normally do this, but since some people here like to make everything retarded and political, here's a mirror for that specific subset of people that like to twist everything beyond recognition.)



1340. Post 49458461 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 25, 2019, 08:53:22 PM


these don't go on the blockchain, right? some messaging system peculiar to the satellite thing?
Isn't it actually possible to send messages on-chain? And didn't Satoshi do just that? Or how do signatures work?


Would that be a potential attack vector? One Billion people sending just 1 kB of text would already be 1 TB worth of data. Do transaction fees just nullify that threat (if it exists in the first place)?



1341. Post 49459208 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on January 27, 2019, 05:11:00 PM
You guys should be allowed to shoot your immigrants, its just not right.

They'd think twice then.

Yeah, they got alot of nerve being born on the other side of a line we drew in the sand and to want to get away from the shithole they found themselfs in.

Lawful shoot to kill on all sightings is in order! Smiley

Did not think of you both as idiots until now.... Shame.


So the arguments are now: Take a human life for passing an arbitrary line OR import a tiny fraction of another population and hope the problems in both countries gets magically better.

WTF is happening in this thread? Did Roach finally get to you guys? Have feelings taken priority over logic? Just wow. Shame on WO for being this dumb.
I strongly believe global education systems are one of the root causes of this pandemic.

People get drilled into thinking in terms of "right vs wrong" and "the correct way to pass a test" from a very young age. And then they argue that way in real life (e.g. parrot talking points they perceive as correct) instead of listening and looking for real solutions.



1342. Post 49459540 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: kurious on January 27, 2019, 10:42:42 PM
I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.


No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.
Illiteracy is far too rampant for 2019.

"Spending time on complaining that could have been spent on finding incremental solutions is retarded/unproductive."

Last paraphrasing I'll do on this. Good luck with your blindfold if you still (apparently choose to not) get it though.


Spoilers: Advocating is not complaining. And slaves can't advocate for themselves if they're captive, so even attempting to make that argument proves that you didn't understand mine in the first place and were simply looking to make unpolitical life advice political. @HM

I don't think Jojo is at all illiterate, nor do I see your 'life advice' as unpolitical.  How can being so dismissive of other views by calling them illiterate, or dismissing advocacy on behalf of those experiencing modern slavery, as Hairy I recall was (which it is reasonable to say with some certainty does exist) come from anything but a dogmatic, if not patently political stance?
I am not dismissive of others' views whatsoever. In this case people were constantly misrepresenting my words either through stupidity, laziness, or by deliberation.

You can try to show me at what point my quote becomes political, however, you will fail to do so without adding extra information that wasn't present in my words. Politics have nothing to do with this statement whatsoever, yet some people here are so caught up in political bullshit that they try to make everything so, and then argue from that position.

I treat people with the respect they deserve, and when they make my unpolitical statements political or make up arguments on my behalf and then try to write me off as evil I will react accordingly. Not because I care about their opinion, but because people who are too emotional or even stupid to realize their hypocrisy by themselves need to be shut down with their own weapons. Otherwise they clearly don't get it (as proven by the lengthy and multiple posts that I've made elaborating on their fallacies).

I don't even particularly care if the perpetrators in this case understand what the fuck they're doing. But some of the, possibly lurking, readers might find something they've missed previously. Such as dumb fucks making up arguments deliberately or for any other reasons on behalf of others and then either genuinely believing that they're doing something good, or acting as if they were. This is without a doubt the worst human quality plaguing society. Because real evil is often obvious when you see it, and is much easier to fight against than idiots who act nice and in reality just fuck everyone, including themselves, over.

Some of the issues described here (manipulation, omission, laziness, dishonesty) are used in Politics to manipulate, but they're fundamentally human errors and not political issues. If you see Politics in this that's on you, not on the content of my post.


At the end of the day people, made an unpolitical post political by making up random horseshit scenarios that didn't even fit my statement in any shape or form beyond sharing a word or two. But by that line of reasoning you're all Hitler and Jews.
Not sure why it takes a roman to point out what should be obvious: Don't twist people's words if you're going to bother engaging in a conversation (of course unless you have some weird ulterior motives, then good luck with that).


tl;dr

Quote from: jbreher on January 28, 2019, 12:02:01 AM
I believe that BTCMILLIONAIRE's characterization of illiteracy has to do with the fact that all the counterpoints to what BTCMILLIONAIRE has been writing have nothing whatsoever to do with what BTCMILLIONAIRE has actually been writing. The fact that the responses are so far afield from BTCMILLIONAIRE's written points displays an inability of the counterpointers' to actually comprehend what BTCMILLIONAIRE has written.
+1 WO



1343. Post 49459965 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 28, 2019, 01:05:36 AM
Way too early to go all in.

Is there ever a time to go "all in"?

I understand that you are not talking about 100% of a guy(gal)'s total investment portfolio, but likely instead you are referring to NOT going "all in" with what portion of value the guy/gal has allocated towards bitcoin investing.

Personally, I never recommend going "all in" but instead always being prepared for either price direction (both in other words).

Let's say, for example, a guy/gal had a Majormax kind of vision, and sold a vast majority of his/her BTC holdings at various stages between $10k and $19k.  This Majormax foresight person has relatively strong conviction about BTC price direction going down, so s/he sold about 80% of his/her BTC holdings between $10k and $19k (held onto about 20% just in case.. perhaps a bit of practicality holding onto 20%?).  

Personally, I recall that you said that you did not sell a large amount of your position, but regarding hypothetical person, has such person bought some of that sold back, yet?  1/3 of it?  Half of it?  2/3rds of it?  

Given my presented hypothetical, what's your BTC buy back allocation recommendation for hypothetical person, now, Majormax?  

Certainly, I am too much of a chicken to sell major amounts of my BTC, so I would have long ago bought back more than 2/3 of the proceeds that I had sold (which I actually did in real life), and in this regard, I have continued to remain much more nervous (or scared) about missing out on upwards BTC price moves rather than missing out on downward buying opportunities.  

What about you? What about Majormax vision hypothetical person?  What are you recommending here on a practical level for the Majormax hypothetical guy/gal that sold 80% of his BTC investment value between $10k and $19k, and is currently considering the extent to which to use those funds from the BTC sales to buy back BTC, currently?
Nothing wrong with going "all in", even with your entire portfolio in some cases.

A student, or generally young person, can be well advised to go all in on asymmetrical bets such as Bitcoin. In most cases they don't have much to lose anyways, yet all the time in the world to recoup losses.

Also, for smaller investments the traditional ~5-8% p.a. returns in the stock market wouldn't even amount to a Kitkat.



1344. Post 49460199 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 28, 2019, 01:50:16 AM
You could be correct that there is becoming less and less justification for some forms of traditional investments.  Most of my current exposure to the stock market comes through a 401k fund that had a matching component, so I invested into that kind of investment based on what was available to me at the time and the about 20 years of pumping money into that. 

In other words, I will concede that investment considerations today are going to be different for folks just coming into investments and if they do not have a 401k matching possibility, then they are not going to give a shit about that option because it is not available to them anyhow.

Maybe that remains part of the reason that there are so many current youth who believe it to be prudent to diversify into alt coins (aka shit coins)?  Perhaps?

This was true for pre-Bitcoin investments as well. For small amounts it might be more sensible to make high risk investments (and then re-balance a sensible portfolio) than to wait for pennies to accumulate in stocks.


Of course, with substantial wealth, it would be foolish to not diversify properly (without some insider knowledge).



1345. Post 49464172 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on January 28, 2019, 09:27:49 AM

".... It's amazing that 'lefties' always do the same thing. Lots of words that say very little, and in as confusing and distracting a way as possible...."

It is amazing to categorize a belief according to an arbitrary line drawn in the sand against a political viewpoint as if the 'righties' are not just as evil in their arguments or practices.

The whole 2 party democratic system is full of shit actors with shit beliefs, all are liars---performers to maintain their political positions.

For the record, the US has the largest number of slave labor in the form of prisoners @ 665 per 100,0000 persons.
As a kid I just didn't care for politics because I didn't know shit anyways so had no way of forming a sensible opinion. Now the more I learn about it the more it reveals itself as a farce. Little more than tribalism in a new form. Or opium for the masses v2.

It's entertaining, but whoever thinks that real change is made in politics hasn't been paying much attention.



1346. Post 49464183 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: kenzawak on January 28, 2019, 09:21:42 AM
Bitcoin Buys Takeout on Germany’s Largest Food Delivery Platform With Over 13,000 Restaurants and Lots of Pizza

https://dailyhodl.com/2019/01/27/bitcoin-buys-takeout-on-germanys-largest-food-delivery-platform-with-over-13000-restaurants-and-lots-of-pizza/

"Germany’s largest online food delivery platform has swelled to over 13,000 restaurants and accepts Bitcoin for payment. The Berlin-based Lieferando.de operates across the country to deliver all types of culinary dream dishes, from fancy to fast food.

Online customers can pay with Bitcoin, credit cards, Sofort or PayPal. When paying with Bitcoin, the company says it does not charge any fees, while it costs an additional 6%, to pay with PayPal and credit cards.

Lieferando is owned by Takeaway.com, one of the largest online food ordering websites in the world, which first started accepting Bitcoin in July 2017.

The company says the payment option has been well received by its customers. Takeaway also powers Bitcoin payments for deliveries in the Netherlands, Austria and Poland."
I never noticed that Takeaway took an extra 6% for Paypal/CC. Been using them for a while with and without BTC though.



1347. Post 49465065 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: kurious on January 28, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
I am not dismissive of others' views whatsoever. In this case people were constantly misrepresenting my words either through stupidity, laziness, or by deliberation.

Not dismissive:

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You are either intellectually dishonest (didn't properly read and understand what has been said and filled the gaps with your own story, then refuse to accept the fact that you have done so), too mentally impaired to understand what I've said, or plain evil and a manipulator.

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You idiots are making up points of your own and pretending that they were mine.

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There will be no repercussions for me, because I understand very well that the overwhelming majority is evil, delusional, ego-tripping, or just plain retarded.

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If you however, act in real life as you do on here, you'll be the one eating shit when it proverbially hits the fan.

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

Ok, even if I allow you are not making a political argument, as you assert - how is your argument well-made?

You seem to argue that if someone is suffering from ANY injustice they should have no recourse; they should just ‘shut the fuck up’?

If in their state (for example) their politicians are corrupt, they are stolen from or repressed and they have no recourse to the rule of law as the police are corrupt too - then they should never complain, but just ‘seek incremental improvements’ rather than bother anyone who else who might perhaps be happily in an arguably more free and more privileged position, such as the one in which you and I are?

I am not seeking to attack you, but the flaws in your arguments and the way you seek to win them.  You have seemed reasonable and I thought posted well until this point.  Now you are coming across in a way that seems ill-considered, angry, elitist, dismissive and self-righteous.

Shouting louder does not make you right. Also, dismissing all ‘complaints’ wholesale without exception is by definition blind prejudice, which is unreasonable.

Someone wanting to advocate for others in a way you do not agree with is not automatically 'retarded' or 'evil, nor do they have to ‘eat shit’ or be an object of your overbearing disdain.  This is plainly over the top.

We are all at least loosely aligned here in the respect we are fans of Bitcoin (with one out two exceptions I can think of).  I know my own views are not wholly shared, but I rarely challenge the opinions of others I disagree with unless they step over the line into angry vitriol to make a point which may well be a valid opinion, but is not a fact.

Lastly:
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But by that line of reasoning you're all Hitler and Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

'…there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.'

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to take your advice and seek out incremental improvements to my lifestyle, which is something I would happily advocate to others - just not in the way you do.

Have a nice day.
My argument would appear more well made if you didn't cherry pick from a single post at the end of a lengthy exchange, not that I expect you to dig through the thread to get the whole picture if you didn't catch the original exchange a few days ago.

I never compared anyone directly to Hitler by the way (which should be obvious even without former context given that nobody calls people Hitler and a Jew in the scenarios you draw from), so I'll kindly excuse myself from responding to your post in detail, as it shows a clear lack of understanding of the matter at hand.



1348. Post 49465213 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

"Edit:"

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You seem to argue that if someone is suffering from ANY injustice they should have no recourse; they should just ‘shut the fuck up’?
This one point I'll clear up.

I originally stated that people who don't work on improving their own situation and choose to complain instead don't deserve better. The reason for this is that they've given up on themselves by choosing to complain, and thus can't possibly expect things to magically improve. Basically a you reap what you sow argument.

This has nothing to do with advocating on behalf of others, as complaining is not equivalent to advocating and "on behalf of others" is not equivalent to "complaining about your own situation instead of working on it".

Do I wish everyone (who isn't an outright twat that is out to hurt people) the best even if they don't deserve it? Sure. Is that mutually exclusive? No. People who don't work on their own situation don't deserve better because they aren't trying themselves.
Doesn't mean that they can't or shouldn't have it better or that people can't or shouldn't help others. All of that nonsense was made up by random people on this thread.



1349. Post 49465774 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Going to take this opportunity to shill two prog rock albums in case anyone here is into that. Both are actually from 2017 as opposed to the 1970s though.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana
As the name suggests, this one is microtonal, e.g. using notes that aren't represented on traditional chromatic 12-note scales.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Polygondwanaland
This one isn't, but still good.



1350. Post 49480382 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: d_eddie on January 28, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
Going to take this opportunity to shill two prog rock albums in case anyone here is into that. Both are actually from 2017 as opposed to the 1970s though.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana
As the name suggests, this one is microtonal, e.g. using notes that aren't represented on traditional chromatic 12-note scales.
I checked this out. I wouldn't call it prog rock - it lacks the complication and the grandiosity. It sounds like psych rock to me. Good though.
Prog was the first/only thing I could think of due to the odd time signatures, but yeah it's definitely far more simple than stuff like Supper's Ready or Close To The Edge. Not really aware of any psych rock, so that didn't cross my mind.

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on January 28, 2019, 02:19:19 PM
Thanks for this. Listening to the 1st one and I like it!

Merited.
Thanks, glad you like it.



Quote from: estenity on January 28, 2019, 04:18:05 PM
some news of our "best" friend JPM.

https://www.coindesk.com/cryptocurrencies-would-only-have-value-in-dystopian-economy-jpmorgan
Aren't most people convinced of a dystopian future? Replacing the dollar and possibly a technological singularity sound like at least a quasi-utopia to me though.



1351. Post 49480414 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Biodom on January 29, 2019, 01:50:11 AM
Going to take this opportunity to shill two prog rock albums in case anyone here is into that. Both are actually from 2017 as opposed to the 1970s though.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana
As the name suggests, this one is microtonal, e.g. using notes that aren't represented on traditional chromatic 12-note scales.

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Polygondwanaland
This one isn't, but still good.

KGATLW, yeahhh.
Here is "The Crumbling Castle":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ycw7udHOnw

Opinions can vary, but I get goosebumps from this stuff.
Didn't expect someone to actually know them on here. Coincidentally, Crumbling Castle was playing at one of the university cafes, which is how I learned about them.

Have you listened to any of their other albums that you can recommend? Seems like they've been pretty busy with five albums in just 2017.



1352. Post 49481844 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

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https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/A-cure-for-cancer-Israeli-scientists-say-they-think-they-found-one-578939

Is this shit for real? Fucking jews.



1353. Post 49482710 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on January 29, 2019, 12:19:59 PM

Why "Fucking" jews?  Roll Eyes

But yes you would expect jewish people to find a cure for war first, since they are mostly dying from exchanging of missiles and bullets in their part of the world ...  Smiley
If I have to spell it out I won't feel funny anymore. Sad

Also partially curious to read about some Roach fantasies regarding this. Something like Jews throwing the world into disarray by indirectly increasing human population to unsustainable levels. How dare they cure cancer.



1354. Post 49482725 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on January 29, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
oh god not more faulty people staying alive thats all we need what ever happened to survival of the fittest or is that not allowed in your wonderful new socialist utopia

In our libertarian Utopia you will be able to purchase fitness for a few satoshis.
What if I wanted to be fitter than everybody else?



1355. Post 49498708 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: vroom on January 30, 2019, 08:27:18 AM
which bitcoin credit card do you guys use, can you recommend one?
Wirex

I thought we were all hodling?

spent and rebuy is the new hodling Smiley
Idk, selling the bottom sounds pretty legacy to me.



1356. Post 49498944 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 30, 2019, 11:15:34 AM
^^
Hilarious and actualy my GF stopped with eating meat and I am following her trend already for a +- 2 months now Roll Eyes
It's commendable!! I think someday people stop eating meat.
Never going to happen.

The problem isn't eating meat either, the problem lies in the draconian conditions in which most animals that are raised for human consumption live.

This is partially countered with true free range, which costs more (as it should, supermarket meat is too cheap). And the problem is fully countered with lab grown meat, which is just around the corner.

If you care about animals buy meat, eggs and dairy from suppliers that let their animals live naturally without restrictions. That funnels money away from battery farming cunts and supports animal welfare by providing genuine farmers with more funds.


This is what vegetarians and vegans should really be doing (unless they genuinely hate the taste of meat), as it would clearly signal the markets to invest into animal welfare over cutting costs by any means available. The end destination of this path is real meat with no bloodshed.
Meanwhile the end destination of veganism is the near complete to complete extinction of life stock that can not possibly live in nature as there would be no incentive to raise it.



1357. Post 49499950 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on January 30, 2019, 02:15:33 PM
Found this on twitter


"I promise to pay the bearer on demand"

Roll Eyes



1358. Post 49500815 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 30, 2019, 02:40:02 PM

You know what's not even funny about this ? I'm seriously thinking of building a single rig with a 2080ti in it for mining GRIN.

By the way, have I mentioned - lately - how much I utterly mock-despise Theymos for putting GRIN on my radar ?

I really don't want to deal with managing a miner again - too many other creative endeavors I am pursuing right now, and this GRIN shit is a total fucking distraction.

Sheeeeit.
Are 2080 Ti worth it cost/performance wise (relative to other cards)?

And what do you mean by managing a miner? Did you run into repeated problems in the past?

I set my farm up and then never really touched it again until running costs exceeded mining revenue. Took out a GPU here or there to fix some of my own and family/friend computers, but that was about it other than very rare instances of updating drivers to improve hashrate.

If my miners weren't disassembled and in another geographical location I'd be setting them up for GRIN, just because why not. Don't think I would specifically invest in miners for this though, not with Bitcorn at/near bottom and with GRIN still far from its inflation induced bottom.



1359. Post 49502581 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 30, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
^^
Hilarious and actualy my GF stopped with eating meat and I am following her trend already for a +- 2 months now Roll Eyes
It's commendable!! I think someday people stop eating meat.
Never going to happen.

The problem isn't eating meat either, the problem lies in the draconian conditions in which most animals that are raised for human consumption live.

This is partially countered with true free range, which costs more (as it should, supermarket meat is too cheap). And the problem is fully countered with lab grown meat, which is just around the corner.

If you care about animals buy meat, eggs and dairy from suppliers that let their animals live naturally without restrictions. That funnels money away from battery farming cunts and supports animal welfare by providing genuine farmers with more funds.


This is what vegetarians and vegans should really be doing (unless they genuinely hate the taste of meat), as it would clearly signal the markets to invest into animal welfare over cutting costs by any means available. The end destination of this path is real meat with no bloodshed.
Meanwhile the end destination of veganism is the near complete to complete extinction of life stock that can not possibly live in nature as there would be no incentive to raise it.
I care about what kind of meat tastes better and is more nutritional.

They are products. Literal lambs for the slaughter. No need to be senselessly cruel, but human diet comes first.
Battery farmed meat tastes like nothing. It's almost exclusively water.

If you care about taste you care about animal welfare by transitivity, as free ranging and a proper diet directly translate into tastier meat.

There's a reason why a steak of Iberico pork tastes as if it was fried in nut oil, namely because they've been eating nothing but nuts throughout their whole life. Similarly, animals that ate the garbage that they are fed in battery farms without ever getting to move around taste like garbage.

And once it comes to lab meat there won't be any limit to taste experiences that could be crafted that were never before possible, e.g. mix and matching different types of meats and adjusting their flavour profile as if the animals were fed certain diets will become a thing in due time.


There is no argument for battery farms other than cost and profit.
The cost argument doesn't hold as lab meat is ultimately going to be cheaper by so many orders of magnitude that not funding it can't be called anything but retarded. And the profit argument, well. Should people and animals suffer so some twat can make a few more dollars?
It's pretty clear that battery farms are a net negative today, more people could be fed without them, they make animals suffer throughout their entire lifetime, they fuck the environment, the produce is shit tier, they make humans sick and/or immune to antibiotics, etc.



1360. Post 49502648 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on January 30, 2019, 03:18:28 PM
Being woken up @ 4am to a bunch of Antminers beeping because there is no Internet connection was not pleasant.
Fair enough, I never allowed miners to interrupt my sleep. I'd rather lose some money than my sanity.

Quote from: infofront on January 30, 2019, 03:41:04 PM
GPU mining was more of a pain in the ass in previous eras. SHA256 (Bitcoin) and Script (Litecoin, etc) mining produced tons of heat and used a lot of power, which required more thermal and electrical management, and led to lots of burned out fans and GPUs. And there were no USB stick mining OSs until around 2015.

Also, when mining bitcoin 8 years ago, the typical GPU fans and heatsinks were nowhere near the quality of today's.

Today, with better GPU cooling, better mining and rig management software, and the emphasis on lower power consumption algorithms, mining is easier and less time consuming than ever.
I do remember frying one of my cards some 5-6+ years ago, which put me off from trying again for quite a while. Completely forgot how much of a PITA mining used to be compared to nowadays.



1361. Post 49502851 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Ibian on January 30, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Should people and animals suffer so some twat can make a few more dollars?
Not people, and I don't know where you get that from, but animals certainly if it could somehow improve the meat, yes.

That is what lambs for the slaughter means. They only exist because we are going to eat them. Their well being is not of importance in itself. If we didn't eat meat, they would not exist in any appreciable quantity if at all.
You still engage in selective reading and cherry picking. Not sure taking you off the ignore list was the right move. Posts in response to you seem like a complete waste of time.


My post.



1362. Post 49506942 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 30, 2019, 10:14:18 PM
But let's be clear, the wearer of the MAGA hat wants to be perceived consistent with the MAGA brand values.  That's why they are wearing the hat.  

Here we have a demonstration of MAGA brand values.


Here we have a demonstration of the exact same kind of generalization that lead to Trump being elected president.


You're not very far from being the left-wing equivalent of the two referred to in the tweet with that kind of attitude by the way. Not using foul language and acting nice doesn't change the content or intent of your words, and agitating others directly or indirectly isn't any more commendable than the actions of those two twats are.

Our last argument clearly showed this as well. I initially assumed you were dispassionately arguing points, but you exceedingly reveal yourself as overly emotional and irrational.

Perhaps you may want to consider sticking to drawing charts instead of throwing even more gasoline on the dumpster fire that is politics.



1363. Post 49507898 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 31, 2019, 12:15:42 AM
But let's be clear, the wearer of the MAGA hat wants to be perceived consistent with the MAGA brand values.  That's why they are wearing the hat.  

Here we have a demonstration of MAGA brand values.


Here we have a demonstration of the exact same kind of generalization that lead to Trump being elected president.


You're not very far from being the left-wing equivalent of the two referred to in the tweet with that kind of attitude by the way. Not using foul language and acting nice doesn't change the content or intent of your words, and agitating others directly or indirectly isn't any more commendable than the actions of those two twats are.

Our last argument clearly showed this as well. I initially assumed you were dispassionately arguing points, but you exceedingly reveal yourself as overly emotional and irrational.

Perhaps you may want to consider sticking to drawing charts instead of throwing even more gasoline on the dumpster fire that is politics.

Do you think Donald Trump is racist or do you think he is a supporter of ethnic minorities?
Completely irrelevant to what you've posted.

You've essentially demonized half the United States and implied that none of their concerns matter.

Which is also quite hypocritical given how you insisted that others should be heard and helped (which I by the way, unlike apparently you, agree with).



1364. Post 49527007 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: jojo69 on January 31, 2019, 02:22:46 PM
god damn

all this seeking incremental improvements in my condition gonna get me to the chiropractor
Sounds like you deserve less back pains if you choose to follow through. Sure would be nice if you got to skip the walk/ride though.



1365. Post 49527025 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on January 31, 2019, 03:50:37 PM
this one is also funny.



Grin Grin
Those fingers aren't real are they?



1366. Post 49527136 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Febo on January 31, 2019, 04:16:43 PM
next 24 months are critical!!!

Actually you are so right. We might have next financial crisis in that period of time and no one have clear answer how Bitcoin will react to it.
Who is to say that bubbles don't follow an exponential trend on some scale (beyond the usual market cap shenanigans)? More humans, more money (thanks CBs) faster communications, faster and larger bubbles.

Inb4 Bitcoin goes to >>10m per coin in the most frenzied bull run in human history. Then it crashes back to some sensible levels. And then it'll come out as the global reserve currency.


Now that would be a fun ride. And not entirely implausible either, albeit only with an ε probability of playing out.



1367. Post 49527207 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on January 31, 2019, 05:09:54 PM
Satellite to received Bitcoin data 🤣


https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1091011511961731073/photo/1
Would those things be more secure than using your normal (or dedicated) internet connection?



1368. Post 49528476 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.28h):

MSM branding anyone as rich and/or out of touch is just hilarious.



1369. Post 49530342 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: Millionero on February 01, 2019, 11:19:22 AM
Fidelity confirms in a blog post to be in final testing stage as previously reported by Bloomberg
https://medium.com/@FidelityDigitalAssets/an-update-on-our-work-f5a50a753a1f
Fidelity is going to be "disrupting the obfuscated nature of trading digital assets."
Hardly disruption.  More like reversion to SOP of TPTB.
Still, I approve, because it is the condition of life to struggle and strive.
Store Of Poop of Transacting Poop To Booty?

Don't think I've ever heard those acronyms.



1370. Post 49531164 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: ðºÞæ on February 01, 2019, 11:58:29 AM



You are on the wrong chain, this is the spend spend spend chain of Bitcoin.
It went to enormous lengths (to the extend of sacrificing 50 forks ) to be able to have massive traffic so you can shop til you drop.
For Hodling, blocksize is irrelevant, 5 buck fee so, what once every couple of years.
Hodling defeats the purpose if creating the segwit hardfork.

Bitcoin SV and Bitcoin Cash are pure breed Bitcoin. (Thoroughbred versions, Pedigree Bitcoin)
Segregated Witness version transformed Bitcoin a half-breed mongrel (Child of Bitcoin breeding with scam XRP, banking channel establishment)

I think Amazon has a sale on ropes my friend.



1371. Post 49533149 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

+∞ WO for that coffee lmao



1372. Post 49533893 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 01, 2019, 02:38:00 AM
https://twitter.com/larpcapital/status/1091124735264604160?s=21

For r0ach and Some other crazy F***s
Same thread:

https://twitter.com/Myshits12inches/status/1091198680361828352



1373. Post 49534381 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on February 01, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
my prediction for the next ATH: Q1/Q2 2021  Cool

EDIT: you can quote me for later prove  Grin
What are you willing to eat in case you're incorrect?



1374. Post 49540835 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 01, 2019, 04:52:41 PM
I don't want to sound whiny or anything, but.. homer, wouldn't it be easy for you to remove the white background? Smiley Looks better without it.

 Well, normally I save my files as jpg because... I'm old.  There is no transparency for jpg and GIF doesn't have the level of colours I need so it would mean learning something new.  I'm not averse to learning but I think I'm getting to the point where learning something new comes at the expense of forgetting something (I've run out of the human cognitive equivalent of a computer's RAM) so it's really fear that keeps me from removing the white.  I'll try to grow a pair and learn how to adapt and remove the white.... but it might take some time Wink

I'm under the impression that learning new things with age should make things better, not worse. After all, you're keeping your brain active. On the contrary, by learning nothing new you're basically waiting for it to degrade.
Same reason becoming physically inactive in retirement doesn't seem like a great idea.


Edit: Thanks for the new hat!



1375. Post 49541406 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: smartcomet on February 02, 2019, 03:14:20 AM
https://twitter.com/coolhandcanuck/status/1090542945332162560
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$700 Quintillion Asteroid Ignites Space Mining Gold Rush Between Mars and Jupiter - exploration to start 2022

Enough gold, iron to give each person on earth billions worth of the.....not so precious metals..... https://www.outerplaces.com/science/item/17778-700-quintillion-dollar-asteroid-space-mining-gold-rush-mars-jupiter … via
The intro to the article...

"It's also estimated to be worth around $700 quintillion—enough to give each of the 7.6 billion people on Earth about $92 billion each. You read that correctly—$92 billion each. "

Sure. That's what would happen if we mined the whole thing. It wouldn't just drop the gold etc. prices to near zero. Everybody would have at least $92 Billion. Roll Eyes

Gold shorts inc?



1376. Post 49541650 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47098776

Anti-MAGA values?


Is that how it works? Roll Eyes



1377. Post 49555548 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Where would UK folks buy Bitcoin?



1378. Post 49555958 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 03, 2019, 12:04:21 AM
Where would UK folks buy Bitcoin?
coinbase  Embarrassed
Sad



1379. Post 49592000 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: bitebits on February 02, 2019, 08:21:55 PM
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Moon is a browser extension that offers an alternative payment method when shopping online. Pay 'with bitcoin' [and some altcoins] 'directly' (Coinbase account) on Amazon.com.
Soon you’ll be able to shop on any of your favorite e-commerce websites, like eBay, Ali Express and Walmart.com.

https://paywithmoon.com
Demo video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1091163062701309956
Anyone know where I can find the fees for that? Don't see them on their site.



1380. Post 49592406 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 04, 2019, 01:23:08 PM


https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1092408636100542464

another reason to keep trying WHISKEY's  Cheesy
Weee



1381. Post 49610338 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on February 05, 2019, 04:40:18 PM


Lightning Network Nodes Jan/5/2019



Lightning Network Nodes Feb/5/2019

LN > nodes increasing.

https://1ml.com/

I always get confused with node and channel.
Visualize it a few times (on different days). Nodes = circles, channels = lines connecting them (I assume).



1382. Post 49610783 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 06, 2019, 02:58:01 AM
I don't think Bob should be allowed to pretend like he represents the aggregate of black people.  For one thing, he posted a picture of himself on here and you can CLEARLY tell he's NOT 100% black.  He's barely above Michael Jackson in darkness.  You can't say "I'm a relatively intelligent person and I'm black!" when you're clearly mixed ancestry.  

Just look at the following stat:

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*According to Ancestry.com, the average African American is 65 percent sub-Saharan African, 29 percent European and 2 percent Native American.

All accepting claims like this from Bob at face value does is legitimize the idea importing a trillion Somalians or Congoloids who can't even read after spending a billion dollars each trying to force them to.  Anyone who went to public school can tell what's going on.  Some of the black kids are completely illiterate even in middle school and high school and unable to learn anything, while some others seem to do alright; not fantastic, but 'okay'.  If you mapped their genetics, it's probably the ones with little or no white genes having these major problems.
I have a degree in Mathematics nowadays, and when I was in school your best guess would be that I was a completely degenerate retard. I've heard on numerous occasions that I would not get anywhere in life with my attitude from different teachers. Jokes on them.

Point being, whatever you do in school is no predictor. The education system is simply not fit for our world. Should be obvious too given that it was tailor made to mass produce factory workers during the industrialization.



1383. Post 49610908 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on February 06, 2019, 10:21:53 AM
It just keeps getting better


I suspect the opposite. They will have the motivation to earn sats which will lead most of them to spam. It will be hard to find a tweet to reward.
Also good old tribalism. People will just reward their own echo chambers. On the other hand, that means that an "infiltrator" could some decent pocket money while simultaneously taking the piss.



1384. Post 49611047 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.29h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 06, 2019, 12:45:06 PM
^
Imagine those kind of chewbacca’s in star wars.....
good shit ain’t getting that crazy

Edit: thx i’m having Fun...... only not @this exact moment Roll Eyes
I would find a way out of this universe immediately.



1385. Post 49641825 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on February 08, 2019, 07:21:08 AM
!!!!! speechless...
Never had you for a gamer r0ach. Even there you are full of joy God damn it.
Do you also watch a lot of porn?

Morningz.
To be fair, it's hard to be joyful about modern games.
The gaming industry as a whole has largely turned into a massive cash cow, as opposed to a bunch of nerds pushing the boundaries of what they can create.

Mechanics are always virtually identical. Calling them different names and giving them different effects doesn't change their fundamental nature. And genuinely new mechanics or content, let alone genres, have been very rare to non-existant.

Of course, from an Economic point of view that's understandable, but from a gaming enthusiast point of view it's just cancer. Unless you're fine with regurgitating, which people do with pop music, then I guess whatever floats your boat (but that shouldn't make up most of an industry).



1386. Post 49642038 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 08, 2019, 12:37:58 PM
To be fair, it's hard to be joyful about modern games.

 I swear to Cthulhu, if I see another fucking Battle Royale game come out soon (LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU, ANTHEM !) I'm going to take up board-gaming. Or maybe tiddlywinks. Possibly enter the Pro-Jenga circuit...
I've actually been considering board gaming. Got a few friends that keep raving about it and they meet once every other weekend for just that. Actually sounds more fun than "gaming" gaming, might be the leaf and drinks though.



1387. Post 49678039 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 10, 2019, 01:02:40 AM

The new green deal shit is the craziest thing I have ever witnessed being pushed in American politics. Literally the only thing that would come from that would be the downfall of the US.

I don’t understand how basic stuff like not polluting rivers is the craziest thing you have ever witnessed.  And not sure why it would lead to the downfall of the USA.  But ok.
Although I'm not sure if wind power and whatnot is the most effective way of reducing emissions, I don't get the general attitude against going green either.

I've been wondering if bridging the gap with nuclear power while investing heavily into nuclear fusion wouldn't be better than putting the same resources into wind. Solar seems reasonable for decentralization at the very least though.
Keep in mind that nuclear power was researched for war purposes. As a result the nuclear power reactors that we have now aren't anywhere near as efficient or clean (less dirty) as they could be.

And in general, not polluting your environment should be a no-brainer. I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to argue the negative health implications of smoking at this point, and polluting the shit out of the environment is comparable to at least a weaker form of that.

Still not sold on "climate change" though. Too many unknown variables. If we had any clue how earth's ecosystem worked we'd be controlling the weather.



1388. Post 49700076 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: rdbase on February 11, 2019, 07:27:41 PM
Amaury Sechet announced he is the original Satoshi Nakamoto with a hash on a twitter post but then deleted it.
https://www.ccn.com/amaury-sechet-bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-faketoshi
A bitcoin crash developer? Seriously why would he create a cryptocurrency on overturning what bitcoin fundamentals were built on? Roll Eyes
Too much coke.



1389. Post 49709111 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 12, 2019, 04:57:03 AM
Is this a joke? You need to pay taxes when it rains in New Jersey?

Is it even allowed to catch rainwater for your own use?  Undecided

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/02/04/rain-tax-likely-to-become-reality-in-new-jersey/#.XGHnBuf1tMg.twitter

overly shrill headlines

Stormwater management is, in fact, a thing.  It does cost actual money, here in the real world.
Insurances and more than 60% of income taxed aren't enough yet? Why?



1390. Post 49709213 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on February 12, 2019, 12:32:03 PM


https://twitter.com/MADinMelbourne/status/1095292274211139587/photo/1
Also Craig: Let's get into bed with regulators and legacy finance. (At Coingeek 2018)



1391. Post 49709298 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on February 12, 2019, 03:40:35 PM

Mostly speculative equity investing.

"The fund will also hold a small percentage of its value in liquid cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin"

A small percentage of $40M is nothing.
Some powder on the tiny bit of snow dust that'll eventually turn into a tiny marble, etc.



1392. Post 49711312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on February 12, 2019, 06:43:04 PM
I sense a disturbance in my pants.
Titanium plates prepare you must.



1393. Post 49712633 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 12, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
Oh, don't misunderstand.  My post history here stands for itself with regard to my position on taxation and the State.  That said, if we ARE going to have such structures, targeting the fees to those who actually cause the problems/use the services seems preferable to socializing all the costs.

My only real objection to the conservative reporting on this was the clickbaity oversimplified breathless tone.  The left press does it too and it annoys me just as much.
Yeah I can agree with that. Localized tax collection and spending would be much preferable to what we have right now. Would also make it harder for crooks to waste money on horseshit.



1394. Post 49722508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 13, 2019, 11:41:45 AM
Pretty good at selling Mayfair flats to Russki petronairs
Indeed oфигeннo
I'd be terrified now to hold any of those properties for too long

I went to Harrod’s a couple of years ago, any way long story cut short - My gf & I went outside after & saw a block of swanky flats, big tall glass building. It had an Abu Dhabi Bank built into it on the ground floor. I said to her ‘I bet they’re worth  5-10 million’.

I googled them when I got home I googled them & they were going for over £120,000,000 each.

Fucking insane.


I thought it was bad enough when I went to pick out a coat at a different department store.  Not Harrods but nice enough. Found one I liked. Took it to the register.  £5950.  Wtf.  Went to straight to Zara and got one almost as nice. 

No way I’m ever paying that for clothing even if bitcoin goes to six figures.
It's called high fashion for a reason, because you'd have to be really fucking high



1395. Post 49727871 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 13, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
You know why French people are skinny? Cause their food is so gross they can’t eat it.

^
Could live with that tweet, french always think they rule @anything while they s*ck @the most Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/cjlovescrypto/status/1095409508883542016?s=21
Dig their pastries. But other than that they seem like fucking savages that came fresh out of the jungle with all the weird kind of shit they call food.



1396. Post 49729886 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: 33bitcoin on February 13, 2019, 09:17:57 PM
As long as capitalism reigns supreme pollution to the environment won't stop, everything is about money.
If everything was about money, people wouldn't be pushing for organic food.

It's obvious that you've got capitalism backwards. There are needs and desires, markets emerge to satisfy them. In this order.


Things just take time. And they're going pretty smooth as they are when considering the amount of idiots breeding like animals.



1397. Post 49730006 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on February 13, 2019, 11:12:54 PM
Capitalism sure is an efficient way to distribute resources,  9 vacant homes for every homeless person in America.
Even if you literally give every person in the world a mansion, there will still be people who will lose them and end up on the streets.


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Don't you realize that nearly every technological innovation has been founded by the public sector. (cell phones, gps, space travel, internet)  
With money coming from where exactly?

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We are socializing the losses and privatizing the gains.
Not a flaw of capitalism, but governmental overreach enabling bad actors.


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Also I am quite wealthy myself but I want to see society succeed in the best way possible.
By distributing everything "equally"? How frequently do you think you'll have to do this? Because I can guarantee you one thing, there will always be a top 1% (give or take) in every category. It's a fundamental feature of our reality as far as the evidence is concerned.



1398. Post 49730107 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on February 13, 2019, 10:13:32 PM
Others people's money is a dangerous word.  Profit is the unpaid value that workers create.  So really a lot of money is just stolen from others.
Workers get a guaranteed salary, regardless of how the business is going.

They don't participate in the risk and have no right to the payouts that the risk brings. There are equity options for those that care about putting their salary on the line.

Not to mention it's a voluntary exchange. So nothing stolen here whatsoever.


Except for the case that you tried to argue against (e.g. "other people's money"). Nobody asked if they want to pay taxes.



1399. Post 49730298 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on February 13, 2019, 11:39:54 PM
This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Joe Rogan had a recent convo with Yang about UBI  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtyv8NpbFQ
Wealth distribution =/= wealth redistribution =/= UBI.



1400. Post 49730328 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Dig Bicks on February 13, 2019, 11:45:42 PM
This is the wrong place for me to talk about socialism, Universal basic income.  Most bitcoiners are hardcore libertarians.

Even Elon Musk admits that wealth distribution will be mandatory very soon with the rise of automation.

Universal basic income is literally the most retarded idea ever.

Newsflash for you millenials around here: the universe owns you nothing. Go do or creare something useful for yourself and/or others and you'll be able to take care of yourself.

Btw: Elon fucking Musk is your great example now?

People are born into a monopoly game where all the pieces are already owned.  The numbers don't lie, falling wages, rising house prices.  You don't even have the option to just go and live off the land if you want, everything is "owned".

I brought up Elon Musk because you seem to respect wealthy people, maybe he can knock some sense into your brain.
Wages are pretty much constant, not falling, because people want to be smart and lazy. Whine about your life and try to steal money from others and you'll get used and abused instead of becoming an ally.

Your assertion that "all pieces are already owned" is completely and utterly false as well. Or do you refresh your statement every Planck second?



1401. Post 49730653 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 14, 2019, 12:03:09 AM
If everything was about money, people wouldn't be pushing for organic food.
This statement is what gets me..there is a obvious disconnect somewhere here if you think that normal people(ie not the 1%'ers) are more worried about their food having a government stamp of approval over having enough money to pay rent next month, your nukkin futz.
Never said that "normal people" push more for organic food than they cared about money. Simply stated that money isn't the only, or even primary factor in most people's lives. If it was nobody would be buying anything besides food. People would even live on the street if they didn't need an address for jobs and whatnot. Fact is, for rich people it's rarely about money, and for poor people it's about surviving - also not about money. Nobody truly gives a shit about money.

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 14, 2019, 12:03:09 AM
If you think things are going "smooth" I would invite you to walk around Caracas or perhaps a back road in Syria...even the streets Paris for that matter to obtain some perspective. While I can not ascertain whether or not "idiots" are breeding more or less I can tell you with a fair amount of confidence that the world population growth has been in decline since around 1962.

(Individual) Humans are breeding beyond their economic capacities, which makes them idiots. Hence, idiots are breeding more than they should.


And I consider things to go smooth in the sense that humanity, as a whole, gets exactly what it deserves. One example would be the tribal twats in the States flinging shit at each other from left to right and back.

If that is the extent of public human discourse in the 21st century, then whatever humanity has achieved as a whole is "things going smooth". Possibly too smooth for our own good. I'm not sure if we might not need some very serious event (WW tier) for people to stop being full blown retards over the dumbest fairy tales of problems.


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Be all these things as they may..I am hearing the same old rhetoric and the pass the buck it aint my problem mentality and frankly it sickens me. Be part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
Then maybe you should start listening better. I've never advocated for a "not my problem" rhetoric. If I was to advocate for anything of the like it would be for a "don't fucking tell me what to do/think and maybe I'll consider helping you out as I see fit within my capacity" rhetoric.

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Be all these things as they may..I am hearing the same old rhetoric and the pass the buck it aint my problem mentality and frankly it sickens me. Be part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
In so far as there are any real problems they're with degenerates of the like that bring up gender pronouns in politics while aging, disease and hunger are still a thing.



1402. Post 49737705 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 14, 2019, 06:21:54 AM
Never said that "normal people" push more for organic food than they cared about money. Simply stated that money isn't the only, or even primary factor in most people's lives. If it was nobody would be buying anything besides food. People would even live on the street if they didn't need an address for jobs and whatnot. Fact is, for rich people it's rarely about money, and for poor people it's about surviving - also not about money. Nobody truly gives a shit about money.

Well..you said people and it does not matter at all in the slightest as to their normality as to whether or not they are engaged with worry about money. Everyone does it to some degree or another and I would argue that wealth in and of itself requires perhaps more primacy in ones life than being poor does. As for your last sentence I would point you to look closer at history because this concept has dominated human culture for the last ten thousand years.
And that statement is still true.
If it was all about money you wouldn't be able to find people demanding organic food, green energy, or even entertainment. You would find an abundance of suppliers, but no demand.

Point was, and still is, money isn't the primary driver for most people. I'd go as far as to say it's the driver for nobody, as even those that hoard and accumulate money do it for different reasons with money just being a byproduct.

The deeper point was that capitalism isn't about money, and that people who think it is don't understand it in the slightest(inb4 but it says capital)


Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 14, 2019, 06:21:54 AM
(Individual) Humans are breeding beyond their economic capacities, which makes them idiots. Hence, idiots are breeding more than they should.

And I consider things to go smooth in the sense that humanity, as a whole, gets exactly what it deserves. One example would be the tribal twats in the States flinging shit at each other from left to right and back.

If that is the extent of public human discourse in the 21st century, then whatever humanity has achieved as a whole is "things going smooth". Possibly too smooth for our own good. I'm not sure if we might not need some very serious event (WW tier) for people to stop being full blown retards over the dumbest fairy tales of problems.

You cant label them as individual in one breath then lump them into a whole the next. Sorry, dosent work that way. The smoothness of society and the achievements of humanity are open to debate I am sure but the examples you have provided are poor indicators as to what most people talk or are thinking about.
Sure I can, because there were two distinct points being made. One about idiots breeding. One about things going relatively smooth.


Quote from: Toxic2040 on February 14, 2019, 06:21:54 AM
In so far as there are any real problems they're with degenerates of the like that bring up gender pronouns in politics while aging, disease and hunger are still a thing.
Your slurring degenerates here sir to lump them in with politicians! I happen to know a few worthy degenerates despite the stigma. Carry on.
Not sure what you're trying to get at.



1403. Post 49738546 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.31h):

Nature vs nurture is no more than the question about how much in a person's behavior (including skills etc) is genetic and how much can be picked up throughout a lifetime. Nurture in the idiom refers to any external stimuli that could nurture a person.

Now, in reality, it's both to an extent nobody fucking knows. And at the end of the day there's a person making decisions, the choices that will ring most loudly within their heads will be whatever genetics and environment threw at them. And the person makes the choice.

And technically, the whole debate only exists because genetic/environmental factors are vastly more prevalent than original thought, coupled with the fact that people don't fucking understand statistics worth shit. The only thing that matters is an individual's choice, everything else is noise.



1404. Post 49763783 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 15, 2019, 08:38:35 PM
99% debasement of the currency's purchasing power after 100 years? Not really dude, we're already living that reality. The world economy is currently on life support. Won't take another 100 years, more like 20.

Very good. I have popped 15 February 2039 into my diary.  I’m pretty free on that day.

What happened? You aren't coming to the 1 million party?
I suggest we have the 1 million party in a hotel on the fucking moon.



1405. Post 49763836 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 15, 2019, 11:16:10 PM

1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
1. You make way too many assumptions about people's intentions.

3. He never said they weren't as far as I can tell. Why can't you just base your responses around what has been written without your own interpolations that always go off who knows where? Also, he doesn't seem to be defending anyone here.



1406. Post 49763871 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 16, 2019, 03:29:20 AM

Hahaha.  A patent on exercising a cat by pointing a laser pointer at the floor.  

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Method of exercising a cat

Abstract

A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor or wall or other opaque surface in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser so as to cause the bright pattern of light to move in an irregular way fascinating to cats, and to any other animal with a chase instinct.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5443036



A 2016 patent on using an algorithm to personalise marketing material for digital delivery

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8738435

A 2016 patent on using a computer to organise crew shifts

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6633900

A 2016 patent for storing video content on the cloud

https://www.google.com/patents/US8856221


I guarantee CSW's patents are equally ridiculous.  But I seriously can't be arsed looking them up.  







Don't patents cost at least a few thousands to register? With random general tech bullshit it makes sense if you want to be a twat and sue people. But fucking cat exercise method? Rich troll?



1407. Post 49764323 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 16, 2019, 04:49:25 AM

1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
1. You make way too many assumptions about people's intentions.

3. He never said they weren't as far as I can tell. Why can't you just base your responses around what has been written without your own interpolations that always go off who knows where? Also, he doesn't seem to be defending anyone here.

I don't understand why you are defending either jbreher or craig wright, merely because you dislike hairy?
That is not what is happening. Refer to point 1.



1408. Post 49788515 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2019, 01:09:46 PM
What do you do when the entire world is a rat's nest?
I become another rat
#Adopt
Then plan
If you become Them, you don't want to fight Them any longer.
I'd argue that you can more efficiently win fights by offering superior alternatives that people have no choice but to want to adopt. That way you also homogenize interests instead of splitting off into countless opposing groups that fight each other over whose delusion of life is the right one.



1409. Post 49788749 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
Again I was looking at random btc addresses.

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1Cp18yeabUg14CNp2HGwKisDoixiGgzmeT

Poor bastard probably dumped last of his bitcoins (18k) when he saw $0.32. Made himself a juicy $35k by selling 26750 coins. (96 Millions fucking DOllars today)

You can probably buy yourself a live forever upgrade with that amount nowadays.

Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ...
Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years.
I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now.
There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago.

The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish.

Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there.

tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging.



1410. Post 49788979 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on February 17, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Again I was looking at random btc addresses.

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1Cp18yeabUg14CNp2HGwKisDoixiGgzmeT

Poor bastard probably dumped last of his bitcoins (18k) when he saw $0.32. Made himself a juicy $35k by selling 26750 coins. (96 Millions fucking DOllars today)

You can probably buy yourself a live forever upgrade with that amount nowadays.

Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ...
Wouldn't be so sure about that.

First off, not everybody wants to live forever.

Additionally to that, the only plausible shot for life extension right now is crypto-preservation, which isn't capable of re-animating humans yet. But that's not necessarily relevant as the probability of reanimating via that route is larger than zero.
So with time, more people will be going that route even if reanimation hasn't been demonstrated yet. And once it's demonstrated in a mammal use will begin growing rapidly.

But this entire process takes forever, just like people haven't jumped on the internet, Bitcoin, or any other technology in the early stages.

Many people might not even be aware of the options either. Life extension has been attempted throughout all of human history with no success after all. So it's not at all surprising that rich people wouldn't have a team dedicated to keeping them informed about any progress happening there when there has been almost none that is tangible for people without a science background.



1411. Post 49789153 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 17, 2019, 04:15:50 PM
Again I was looking at random btc addresses.

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1Cp18yeabUg14CNp2HGwKisDoixiGgzmeT

Poor bastard probably dumped last of his bitcoins (18k) when he saw $0.32. Made himself a juicy $35k by selling 26750 coins. (96 Millions fucking DOllars today)

You can probably buy yourself a live forever upgrade with that amount nowadays.

Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ...
Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years.
I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now.
There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago.

The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish.

Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there.

tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging.

Any new research about body transplants of genetical clones? THAT would be the way to go.

Maybe something already achieved in animals/rats?
There was a plan for the first ever human head transplant a year or so ago. But I don't think anything came from that, so I'm not sure if that actually happened or got delayed.

There are a few different paths to this problem.

One would be to continuously repair the effects of aging. And the other would be to stop aging entirely.

The ways to achieve either of these include replacing the human body entirely (with a cloned biological body, artificial physical body, digital/mind upload), repairing the human body by reversing the effects of aging, or halting the effects of aging altogether.

There is progress happening on all of these fronts.

We have cloned organs, cloned animals. [Potential biological body replacements]

Artificial limbs that can be mind controlled with actual sensorial feedback. [Artificial body replacements]

Mind control of artificial and digital objects. [Mind upload]

Different approaches with cells (senescent cells and senolytic drugs), genes (Crispr), blood shown to reverse some effects of aging in rats. [Reversing/halting the effects on a biological level]


As time goes by these will become more sophisticated and probably result in multi-lateral approaches to dealing with aging. So far they're baby steps, but they're bound to compound exponentially over time. With more progress there comes more funding, with more funding more progress. Same old feedback loop.



1412. Post 49789182 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2019, 04:25:04 PM
Again I was looking at random btc addresses.

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1Cp18yeabUg14CNp2HGwKisDoixiGgzmeT

Poor bastard probably dumped last of his bitcoins (18k) when he saw $0.32. Made himself a juicy $35k by selling 26750 coins. (96 Millions fucking DOllars today)

You can probably buy yourself a live forever upgrade with that amount nowadays.

Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ...
Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years.
I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now.
There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago.

The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish.

Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there.

tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging.
It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy.
What evidence do you have to make such claim? I've found none.

Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans".



1413. Post 49789238 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 17, 2019, 04:29:58 PM
Again I was looking at random btc addresses.

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1Cp18yeabUg14CNp2HGwKisDoixiGgzmeT

Poor bastard probably dumped last of his bitcoins (18k) when he saw $0.32. Made himself a juicy $35k by selling 26750 coins. (96 Millions fucking DOllars today)

You can probably buy yourself a live forever upgrade with that amount nowadays.

Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ...
Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years.
I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now.
There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago.

The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish.

Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there.

tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging.
It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy.
What qualifications do you have to make such claim? I've found no evidence for it.

Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans".
Water turns into ice when it freezes.

Yes that is all there is to be said on the topic. Don't even bother.
Non-argument. Assumes that damage won't be repairable in the future based on incomplete knowledge of pretty much everything.



1414. Post 49789331 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 17, 2019, 04:33:14 PM
Actually age is degradation in the cells.

When you are younger they regenerate fine.

The challenge is to halt or reverse this degradation.

I believe there are current successful studies, stimulating the repair function back into order.




That's the whole "senescent cells" approach. Basically tries to kill senescent cells (cells that stop dividing) which accumulate with age. Human trials are starting this year by the way.



1415. Post 49789574 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 17, 2019, 04:39:37 PM
The problem with the full body transplant is mainly making the neural reconnections. Once that solved most the way ahead is clear. Nanotech, microsurgery, automation, etc... advances in those fields maybe could lead to that. But I thought maybe some "crude" experiment with moderate success could have already been made in animals. It seems not.

Digital mind/upload is another way I don't think is viable as a life extending alternative. I mean, you could end with a similar person but it would just be a copy, not me, not my conscience of being me.... if it was even possible anyways.

Reversing/halting the effects of aging also sound like sci-fi at this time. More so the reversing part of it.

It's the full body transplant the only thing I could consider viable even if the tech to carry it is still way far.

There are artificial limbs (arms with hands and fingers) that were successfully attached to amputees. They were connected to the nerves of the patient, which was then able to use the arm as his own while also being able to feel things with it. So we already have this demonstrated not in animals, but in humans. The reason this is moving so slowly is because you can't just walk around attaching heads to bodies.

I don't see why the digital presence should not be you, as long as the connection is established properly (rather than just copying your memories onto a computer).

But there is a simple solution to this problem.

You create an interface with which you are simultaneously aware of your physical body and digital presence. Add a function that allows you to temporarily enable and disable either presence while keeping your consciousness. That way you can test for yourself if the digital version of you is still "you". Depending on the results of this you can choose yourself what you want to do.


May sound sci-fi, but is not. It's reality and has been demonstrated in rats and more primitive animals. Life-spans have been extended quite significantly in those and clinical human trials started this year. The problem with human trials is that, well, it kind of takes a lifetime to get one data point.

Full body transplant is the one that seems the most bothersome to me. At least for life extension purposes. This seems more like a "get a resilient body that won't get smashed in a car accident" kind of thing. It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.



1416. Post 49789652 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 17, 2019, 04:42:32 PM
The damage is too much. We are talking about irreparable "data-loss" damage here. You can't repair what is already gone. In the future, you could probably farm a genetical clone from the available DNA but the brain is fucked up.
With the information argument there's at bare minimum the option of restoring a human with impairments, then fixing the damage that stops them from acting human. Worst case scenario would be total (but probably partial) memory loss. Which would still potentially be preferable to some to certain death.

And I'm not convinced whatsoever that any of the damage is permanently irreversible.

We run data compression all the time. In reverse that means that you don't need full information to restore everything that's relevant.



1417. Post 49789796 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: mindrust on February 17, 2019, 04:51:15 PM
It is your memory which makes you "you". So as long as your memory lives, you live. Whether it lives on a computer or on a living body doesn't matter.

As long as you still remember certain events happened in your life, that's you.
I disagree. You precede your memories. Without you being there first there is no you to have memories.

The question is then whether or not you are the substrate that holds the memories. And in that case people run into a problem about putting their memories on a "different" computer (which my previous post shows how to solve in the future).



Quote from: wachtwoord on February 17, 2019, 04:48:15 PM
I'm really interested but I think the "best" thing so far is Rapamycine and that is highly experimental, only tested on mice and its unknown why it works.

I've been looking at this at least yearly for a decade and its a strong desire of mine as I consider human lives crazy short (plus I want to see the future, living is the only time machine likely feasible in our universe).

If you have better/more info available I'm very interested. Links are perfectly fine too.

Thanks! Smiley
Not really sure about any links since I haven't checked in for a while. But you can run any of the keywords into Google and find plenty of sources.

There are some serious researchers in Cambridge, Harvard and similar places these days. The main research institute for aging appears to be SENS by the way.

And with some of the keywords I've mentioned they're not directly being pursued for aging, but if you look at them you'll see that they offer themselves to that in the future.



1418. Post 49789872 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on February 17, 2019, 04:54:18 PM
It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.

Billions? For what reason do you believe billions can afford this at any time in the next millennia. It will only be for the lucky few if available at all.
Economics of scale. Cost of production for everything is going down and with abundant energy (fusion) and advances in AI physical "things" will be virtually free. But producing all those bodies would still be less desirable than just getting some vaccine.



1419. Post 49790208 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on February 17, 2019, 05:19:48 PM
some good on the post = cigarettes when<------

quitting that is a huge succes

I massively regret quitting smoking.

It's been 18 months now. There have been absolutely no health benefits, none. No difference in taste or smell, my breathing is exactly the same. What is different is that it has completely fucked my brain. I have a fraction of the concentration I used to have and even when I do concentrate I make mistakes in a way I never used to. I would start again but I doubt it's going to repair my mind so I have to pay small Filipinos to come in and brush my teeth these days.
Do you regularly do anything that actively challenges you mentally? Picking up new things (actively, not through osmosis) helps with concentration and accuracy.



1420. Post 49790368 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on February 17, 2019, 05:28:35 PM
Do you regularly do anything that actively challenges you mentally? Picking up new things (actively, not through osmosis) helps with concentration and accuracy.

Aye. Constantly. The spirit is willing but the hardware has been flushed away.
I find it easy to get lost in what seems like progress, but in this particular sense isn't.
This gets harder the more you do, since there are strong fundamental parallels between seemingly different things.

Basically, the more you're capable of, the easier it becomes to pick up new things because you get to recycle old skills. And while you'll learn more faster, you might actually be investing less energy due to the recycling.

I'd consider that passive learning and feel like that doesn't help you keep your edge with regard to focus and attention.

Perhaps looking out for that could help if you don't already.


Quote from: JSRAW on February 17, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
Do everything to save your health take every precaution- stay away from Drugs

Your body is your Temple. but for f... sake don't die a virgin Because......... Grin





https://twitter.com/DrOOelm/status/1097124423621136384
You can take (some) drugs responsibly in ways that don't have any impact on your health span.



1421. Post 49793504 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 17, 2019, 08:37:20 PM
Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial
Man wasn't meant to live forever, we don't need a 1000 year reigning Nero.

Speak for yourself Wink

Who doesn't want 1000 years of watching bitcoin price? What a life. I would spend my 1000 years shitposting here with you lovable bastards. not roach
One Billion Dollar Bitcoin party.



1422. Post 49794125 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 17, 2019, 09:40:24 PM
telomers would not solve anything, you would get more cancer as a side effect (a fact).

AFAIK, only causes cancer once the "original protective" telomeres have been naturally degraded.

Theoretically, a solution can be found if there is a way to bio-engineer a way to do this in-utero or as a "vaccine" upon birth.

it could, but short telomers are mostly associated with aging.
The most relevant quote is this:
Quote
Although tumors may arise from cells with short telomeres and chromosomal instability, telomerase activation and telomere maintenance are requisites for the progression of most human tumor types.

If you are into this stuff, here is an excellent review (with free access):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3896987/


You can use Sci-Hub to access any paper if you have the DOI (serial number kind of thing). Basically the pirate bay of research.



1423. Post 49812208 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.32h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 19, 2019, 01:36:02 AM
@HM

Do you think that it is possible that very soon (maybe they are doing it already) AI would have close to perfect market predictions?

I saw this article about protein folding. Best scientists were beaten by AI with a large margin.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/2/15/18226493/deepmind-alphafold-artificial-intelligence-protein-folding

Interesting points there: will scientists (apart from those programming AI maybe) become obsolete?
A large part of doing science is based on being able to stake the claim that you did something first (discovery, etc.).
Personally, I don't see much use of doing science of you are doing so at some primitive level when AI gets all the "best parts".
This would feel awful.
There will be a crisis (maybe limited to natural sciences, though).
We could be already in it and will realize it soon.
I don't see humans not merging with AI in some way down the line, or at least enhancing our bandwidth for information processing. Someone will have to keep identifying desirable problems, so humans will need to self-enhance to be capable of keeping up with the results of AI research and deciding on new targets.


Also, no. No AI will ever make perfect market predictions. Simply because different players will employ different AIs to play against each other. At that point humans might be entirely incapable of trading manually though, as AIs would be capable of forcing market movements over any short and large time scales. It'll basically make humans play into its pocket.



1424. Post 49840633 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 20, 2019, 11:12:06 AM
Australia probably doesn’t have any gold because it sold it for beer and bug spray 30 years ago.
I don't think bug spray is going to be very effective in Australia.



1425. Post 49855202 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: VB1001 on February 21, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Cryptocurrency Behaviour Study Confirms MetCalfe’s Law Applies to Bitcoin in the Long Term

"We prove, in the medium to long-run, the validity of the Metcalfe’s law (the value of a network is proportional to the square of the number of connected users of the system) for the evaluation of cryptocurrencies; however, in the short-run, the validity of the Metcalfe’s law for Bitcoin is questionable."

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/cryptocurrency-behaviour-study-confirms-metcalfes-law-applies-to-bitcoin-in-the-long-term/

http://www.economics-ejournal.org/economics/discussionpapers/2019-16/file
So one Pentillion market cap at one Billion users? $50m USD per BTC?



1426. Post 49870637 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: bitserve on February 22, 2019, 04:55:10 AM
Despite the 14-month long bear market, BTC transaction rate reaching 2017 all-time high.

Transaction fees also have remained relatively stable.




I really can't understand what is causing that much tx's. I mean, the peak of 2017 was probably because of people claiming forks and the FOMO (buying/selling)  during the last months. What is happening now? Is it increasing adoption in the middle of a bear market?

On second thought... fees were as much expensive during the 2017 peak that many people (including me) were very shy about sending any tx unless strictly needed. Now you can do it without a second thought.
I'm not sure if normal users have any significant impact on BTC prices. So an increase in use doesn't necessarily imply an increase in price.

The average person has an annual post-tax income of around 1-2k USD. Take 2/3 away for rent, food and other expenses and you're left with some 300-600 USD. It would then take 10m users chipping away their entire disposable monthly income on Bitcoin.
And even then it would only account for the 24h volume or 10% of the market cap.

In reality the average person probably has less money left over and wouldn't think about putting it all in, much less regularly.

The bottom line is that unless hundreds of millions jump on simultaneously there won't be much movement in the price (based on increased use).
I'm almost fully convinced that the big players are (basically) just waiting for golden and death crosses on long-term charts and thus reinforcing the self-fulfilling prophecy of technical trading with everything else just being short-term noise until a truly big change in the landscape, such as institutional money actually flooding onto the blockchain instead of non-physically settled instruments, occurs.



1427. Post 49870871 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 22, 2019, 12:02:34 PM
Even after all these years it mainly comes up as some joke or dig among the sheeple at work :/



Even after all these years it still seems "too good to be true" from a ROI perspective. When that is no longer the case some sheeple will join for crumbs and once those are mostly gone the rest will follow simply because they will have to in order to participate in the market.



1428. Post 49886213 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Bitcoin is ded.



1429. Post 49886661 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

I can finally play Super Mario Kart in 4k 144hz HDR. The future is now.



1430. Post 49886793 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Why is the cake day man giving out the presents? Roll Eyes



1431. Post 49904869 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 24, 2019, 03:18:32 AM
Relevantly both of us place upcoming resistance at $4,500.  Perhaps it doesn't matter how we come to the conclusion that resistance is at $4,500, if we both agree on it.  



Perhaps not for the conversation. But from a trader's perspective it can be useful to consider how other people might think about the market. Mostly for deciding on how to stagger out your orders.



1432. Post 49904964 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: Icygreen on February 24, 2019, 07:55:57 AM
But if you're really hell bent on finding the true reasoning, the genesis hat started here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg46916490#msg46916490
Need to start a petition for 1% interest on your received merit. Per day, week, month, who cares. Whatever keeps it sufficiently uninflated for negating bots.



1433. Post 49905112 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on February 24, 2019, 09:23:32 PM


its going HARD AF

nice set up?
Never seen that kind of Milka, damn.



1434. Post 49905494 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: erre on February 24, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
Slow accumulation of bitcoins followed by sudden dump is definitely price suppression technique. The more they use it to suppress price the sharper will be price rise! Don't fall in the psychological trap manipulators are crafting! Don't sell your bitcoins if price is below $50,000!


You won’t see me selling a single satoshi under $50,000. Patience is required here, if you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

Weak hands - not permitted!


A bit dumb, I'm for sure selling at 48,000. You know there will be a rejection dump at 50k.

i would sell some at 45k too.

The daily menu of bread and water it´s getting boring.

I would sell my first fraction of btc at 51k. You dumbasses.
Agreed. Anything below 51k is mental. wink fucking wink



1435. Post 49905518 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.33h):

Quote from: ChrisPop on February 24, 2019, 10:17:20 PM

1 Satoshi equals 0.00003802 USD now! This is a bargain guys!! LOL  Simple math folks: when bitcoin price will hit $1,000,000, 1 satoshi will be worth $0.01. So you will literally be able to buy a big mac for example with a 500 sats. Wink So buy satoshi!  Grin
How is the outlook on hard forks for moving the decimal places by the way? Or are we just going to shove Millisatoshis through LN?



1436. Post 49921283 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 25, 2019, 01:36:19 PM
oh god now i gotta ddg anal fisting rope

She wouldn't believe me. Just said anal fisting? you can forget that idea.  LMAO

https://youtu.be/VXsPqUFsArM?t=147
That lube carabiner for quickly switching lubes. Nice.



1437. Post 49937596 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

If this isn't a bull trap on the minute scale MAs we're probably going back to 4xxx for a bit at least. The next 21 hours are critical etc.


Edit: Happy birthday Arrie.



1438. Post 49952222 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Biodom on February 28, 2019, 12:12:19 AM
With all due respect, why are we supposed to repeat prior flat mo for mo?

So far, at a macro level, it matches almost exactly.  Don’t ask me why, I just work here.

Everyone expected a plunge in January because it would be the same as in 2015, but it happened in December instead, so not really almost exactly.
I grant you that there is some similarity so far, but IMHO, this would go away soon.
It could very well have moved ahead by whales anticipating it and not wanting to risk shorting too late.



1439. Post 49952493 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 28, 2019, 01:02:42 AM
dump

DENIED!

jinx in progress



1440. Post 49953237 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2019, 01:50:10 AM
This has been a bullish dump

LOL, looking forward to seeing the opposite, bearish pump?
Wouldn't that imply a weak pump into a down trend? Getting ready to 80x short?



1441. Post 49963684 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: Majormax on February 28, 2019, 09:43:56 AM
Bitcoin Whales Have Been Acquiring Large Amounts of Cryptocurrency in Past Two Months

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/02/bitcoin-whales-have-been-acquiring-large-amounts-of-cryptocurrency-in-past-2-months/

"According to the “top 100 rich list” for cryptocurrency, compiled by Bitcoin.com, there are certain “whale wallets” that have been steadily increasing their crypto holdings - with every drop the digital asset market has experienced since December 2017. When crypto prices plummeted on February 24th, a number of whales reportedly bought large amounts of bitcoin (BTC) and bitcoin cash (BCH).
...
Between December 17th, 2018 and February 25th, 2019, the four largest wallets associated with the exchanges (mentioned above) had increased their holdings by 2,879 BTC, an amount valued at approximately $10.8 million. In comparison, the remaining top 100 largest crypto addresses accumulated 151,505 BTC, which is currently valued at over $577 million according to CryptoCompare data."

Surely that's not a good sign ? It is the opposite of wider distribution.

A distribution from larger wallets to smaller/new holders would be more bullish.
It means it's working.

"Stuff" concentrating around a few nodes is prevalent everywhere in nature. Bitcoin won't magically make wealth disparity disappear and that's probably for the better.

After all, a disproportionate amount of people are fine with just watching Netflix all day or living simple lives in general (which is fine, not trying to belittle anyone and I have phases of simple laziness myself and think they are very important).
As a result they don't produce much of value (science, medicine, tech) and humanity is better off if they don't have "too much" income to fuel their consumer lifestyle. Otherwise even more research money would flow into creating even more consumer products as opposed to figuring out how we can stop aging and go to another fucking galaxy.


Either way, the day Bitcoin starts equalizing wealth is the day Bitcoin has ceased remaining neutral.



1442. Post 50012015 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 03, 2019, 11:52:00 PM
https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/03/bitcoin-collapse-800-late-2018s-plunge-mirrored-crypto-analyst/

*Bitcoin Could Collapse To $800 If Late-2018’s Plunge Is Mirrored, Warns Crypto Analyst

Oh wow, if Bitcoin collapses to $800 it could collapse to $800. Be careful guys.



1443. Post 50023524 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 04, 2019, 03:12:37 PM
... taxing corporates like IKEA that make billions but haven’t paid a pound in tax since 1976.

We have been over this Hairy.

No corporation has ever paid one iota of tax in history.  You are welcome to your opinion on brexit, but trotting out this weak sauce isn't helping your cause.
And they fucking shouldn't. Everybody who receives a paycheck is already paying half of it in taxes. Not sure why socialists are so much into not even just double taxation and actually thinking they're doing something good.

Hey, let's take 20% in corporate tax, 50% of every paycheck and then an additional 20% VAT on every purchase and thus take well over 70% of everything earned and throw it at worthless inefficient garbage that does more harm than good.

But then let's complain about Brexit and some scientists losing their jobs, as if that was the problem. If governments weren't pure evil we would have healed all diseases and completely removed poverty right now, even for all the worthless leeching cunts that don't deserve anything.



1444. Post 50023590 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 04, 2019, 03:29:09 PM
It's more than that Elwar.

ALL tax levied on corporations simply becomes a line item in COGS and is added to the price of it's product.

Consumers pay taxes, full stop.
Cherry picking.

You can not have one (consumers) without the other (corporations).

Consumers don't just magically have money, they earn it by working for (or running) corporations.

And their paycheck comes from corporations. Thus from consumers.

Consumers pay themselves and build corporations to increase their consumption.


Trying to credit taxes paid to either party is patently false and ignores the underlying reality of our society. Which is also why trying to target tax corporations vs consumers is just retarded tribalism in a new disguise created by government propaganda, the only party that takes 70-80% of everything humans create and then quite literally burns the vast majority of it.


Edit: In case you want to keep your distinction between consumers and corporations then factually corporations pay all taxes (including your income tax).



1445. Post 50023915 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.34h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on March 05, 2019, 12:11:24 AM
It's more than that Elwar.

ALL tax levied on corporations simply becomes a line item in COGS and is added to the price of it's product.

Consumers pay taxes, full stop.
Cherry picking.

You can not have one (consumers) without the other (corporations).

Consumers don't just magically have money, they earn it by working for (or running) corporations.

And their paycheck comes from corporations. Thus from consumers.

Consumers pay themselves and build corporations to increase their consumption.


Trying to credit taxes paid to either party is patently false and ignores the underlying reality of our society. Which is also why trying to target tax corporations vs consumers is just retarded tribalism in a new disguise created by government propaganda, the only party that takes 70-80% of everything humans create and then quite literally burns the vast majority of it.


Edit: In case you want to keep your distinction between consumers and corporations then factually corporations pay all taxes (including your income tax).

All completely true except for your last point as you're forgetting about personal wealth taxes, estate taxes,  capital gains taxes (on real estate and commodities), stamp duties etc.
The last bit was not meant to be my opinion, but an extension of jojo's argument. Although in that case corporations would be implicitly responsible for real estate (etc.) taxes as well as they are the ones paying out the income required to consume anything, including stocks and real estate.

My position is that neither party is "paying taxes, full stop". This can be further elaborated as follows (in a way that does not make use of the clear fact that consumers and corporations are a symbiotic agency).


Suppose corporations were no longer required to add taxes to the price of their goods. Then one of the two follows:

i) Corporations keep prices the same, demand remains unchanged, corporate profits increase. As a result, corporations now have more cash. Some of which will go to qq CEO bonuses. Some of which will go into either researching a new product or lowering cost of existing products. Should a new product come out the consumer makes a profit proportional to his demand for the new product. Should production costs reduce then the consumer will make a profit proportional to the reduced costs in the long run.

ii) Corporations lower the price effective immediately and every consumer has a profit proportional to his rate of consumption times tax cuts.


From the perspective of corporations these cost reductions imply a direct increase of their profits be it by reduced costs or by increased demand. Thus, the argument that "consumers pay taxes" is strictly false, as corporations miss out on profits proportional to taxation. (Which I would be fine with if it was a) voluntary and b) efficient, which it [taxation and its spending] is neither).


In either case, both parties are getting screwed over by one that does not answer to anything or anyone and thus burns more money than an Arab prince wiping his ass with golden toilet paper.



1446. Post 50051820 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: becoin on March 06, 2019, 11:18:13 PM
https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
Samsung Galaxy S10 Arrives Sans Bitcoin, Only Ethereum is Supported

So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.



1447. Post 50052128 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 06, 2019, 11:54:54 PM
Government debt as share of GDP:

-snip-

Governments solution? Print more money.

The real solution? Bitcoin.

https://twitter.com/alecziupsnys/status/1103390612412354560?s=21
I'm not sure how or if Bitcoin can solve the problem of government debt.

Printing money is done by central banks, not governments. And government debt is created by politicians bribing naive voters with worthless promises.

Even if Bitcoin was the de facto world currency governments would surely be borrowing money to fund all the garbage promised during elections.



1448. Post 50052297 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Over 9000? Billionaire before 1m per BTC.



1449. Post 50052365 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 07, 2019, 12:39:30 AM
That sounds like a poll in the making. "How many coins does it take to reach fuckyoucoiner levels?"

sounds good to me. im curious as to the numbers myself.

Agreed I am curious what people think.

Earlier, today, I made a claim that as a general principle, having 1,000 BTC would be sufficient, but I would like to revise my projected number of sufficient BTC "fuck you" money to 320.307495 BTC.  

I understand that active WO participants are going to have other projections and particular circumstances and justifications, but based on current BTC circumstances, that is my general fit everyone number as of today based on my beliefs about bitcoin, prudent financial strategies and what it takes to live comfortable in the modern world.  

The number will likely change with changes in the market conditions and/or changed beliefs about BTC fundamentals or prudent financial strategies..
Are you basing your 320 BTC on today's price or future estimates? Because at today's valuation I wouldn't even consider that close to "fuck you money", unless you're into a very very simple life or very very old.



1450. Post 50053106 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 07, 2019, 01:57:11 AM
Hahahahaha

Thanks for asking, even though I can recognize that you are in a bit of a combative mood on this topic.   Tongue Tongue  I anticipate that some of your combativeness has to do with what I perceive to be your unrealistic expectations about both how much you need in order to reasonably live passively in terms of your "fuck you" definition.

You may be able to see that I feel some of my own oats, too, with some of my own self-righteousness on this topic, as well.

I am basing my 320.307495 BTC "fuck you" money on a kind of minimum amount that will put "any" person into a far above average expectation with 1) sufficient passive income possibilities to sustain our current storm and 2) decent future prospects, so long as such "any person" retains some flexibility to live within the means and the income generation of the 320.307495 BTC.

Of course, my level of "fuck you" does not suggest that you are going to be able to say "fuck you" to everyone at this moment, and/or to act with impunity because there are still going to be a lot of people who are way fucking more rich than you, at least for the moment, but instead the 320.307495 BTC will allow for you to live currently with a kind of modest lifestyle with a large amount of future income possibilities, based on your already have had established a 320.307495 BTC starting base in which you have enough for financial independence. 

Once you start with the 320.307495 BTC base, I presume that every quarter, you are going to cash out 1% of your BTC in order to pay for all living expenses, with a bit of a presumption that BTC is going to appreciate in value, on average, more than 4% per year in the coming years.

Of course, my suggested 320.307495 BTC amount is NOT fool proof, but I have a certain presumption that at this time, BTC is quite likely to appreciate in value considerably in the coming few years and also that even if $3,122 is not the exact bottom, any time that BTC spends below $3,122 is not going to significantly impact future passive living off of the 320.307495 BTC.

By the way, if you are curious about how I arrived at 320.307495 BTC, then let me tell you that $1million divided by our current local low BTC price of $3,122 = 320.307495 BTC. 

Accordingly, a largely baseline of $1million starts any person out with an annual passive income of $40k per year, which is $3,333 per month.  I presume that with BTC's likely increase in value in the coming years, your passive income is quite likely to be going up in coming years, even if the first few years of your "fuck you" status might be a bit more of a struggle with a mere piddly passive income of only $3,333 per month.  Many people would kill to have such a $3,333 level of passive income as their starting baseline income and to be removed from the ratt race, aka having to work. In the beginning, the only work that you would have to do with such $3,333 passive income is to manage your money and to live within your means.. otherwise you are free to do whatever the fuck you want.. aka "fuck you" status.   Tongue Tongue
Fair enough. My idea of "fuck you" money is in a region where one could bypass any sort of fund raising and go straight to funding some outlandish project of their choice. And since research on specific topics can gobble up tens to hundreds of millions I suggested "over 9000 BTC" (at current prices) to have that kind of leeway.

$3333/month only really works for a single household in most first world locations however, although one could always move into a cheap area and get a ridiculously oversized mansion with that money and dine on Kobe beef once a week.

There's also variability in passive income, so one would have to live well under $3333/month to make it work without having to eat into stocks/BTC and if you went for passive income you'd have to actually liquidate BTC to buy dividend yielding stocks, so I'd at least double your amount of BTC to have a dividend and a BTC stash.



1451. Post 50053135 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Hueristic on March 07, 2019, 02:42:15 AM
https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
Samsung Galaxy S10 Arrives Sans Bitcoin, Only Ethereum is Supported

So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.

I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.



1452. Post 50053140 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 07, 2019, 02:50:28 AM
LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....

Bullshit.  Why would I make something like that up?  I only typed the objective reality of what actually happened.  Bob was telling everyone to "HODL" around the top of $20k while he was selling instead.  If I was going to fabricate something out of thin air, do you really think I would choose that specific thing to make up?  I didn't even claim Bob is part of some type of conspiracy to make other people bagholders, just that he was doing the exact opposite of what he was preaching, telling people to "HODL" while he was selling.  I don't think you were even a poster in the thread then.
Bob has been way too upset during the bear market to have sold any amount significant enough to make your point relevant.



1453. Post 50053684 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 07, 2019, 03:02:55 AM
LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....

Bullshit.  Why would I make something like that up?  I only typed the objective reality of what actually happened.  Bob was telling everyone to "HODL" around the top of $20k while he was selling instead.  If I was going to fabricate something out of thin air, do you really think I would choose that specific thing to make up?  I didn't even claim Bob is part of some type of conspiracy to make other people bagholders, just that he was doing the exact opposite of what he was preaching, telling people to "HODL" while he was selling.  I don't think you were even a poster in the thread then.
Bob has been way too upset during the bear market to have sold any amount significant enough to make your point relevant.

Do all of you people have the memory of a flea?  He typed that he either became a millionaire or made millions from what he did sell.  So, yes, he still had some coins that did go down in value, but he was selling A LOT while telling other people to "HODL".  So my statement is 100% true regardless.  Filing a 'scam report' against a completely true statement is a joke.
Do you have the brain of a flea?

If he's upset that implies that he lost more money to the bear market than he gained from selling at or near the top to cover expenses. Otherwise he'd be ecstatic about the opportunity to reload his bags with around five times the amount of coins that he held previously.

Edit: Just saw Bob's post which renders this whole thing irrelevant on two fronts now.



1454. Post 50053773 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Hueristic on March 07, 2019, 03:12:19 AM
https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
Samsung Galaxy S10 Arrives Sans Bitcoin, Only Ethereum is Supported

So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.

I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

You keep telling yourself that. and your CPU hasn't been compromised for decades either.
Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.



1455. Post 50053911 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: infofront on March 07, 2019, 04:38:34 AM
I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

You keep telling yourself that. and your CPU hasn't been compromised for decades either.
Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.


3 letter agencies could identify you based on: payment information (if using a credit card or most crypto), GPS and cell tower tracking data, recorded conversations, text, emails, website & web services logins, wifi network data, etc.
Well aware of all that and I repeat:

Quote
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

Just making the point that if someone was worried about tracking on their phone they can fairly easily circumnavigate that issue.



1456. Post 50054777 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 07, 2019, 05:51:55 AM
Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.

wow

ummm, that isn't very hard at all...who do you call?  Where does the phone stop for long periods?  What do the people who text you have your contact saved as?
Still fully avoidable issues if you really care.



1457. Post 50054818 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 07, 2019, 06:20:45 AM
Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

There are only two possibilities:

1)  The US govt did not create bitcoin and thus dislike it in some manner.  They would attempt to cap it's price with ESF dark pools the same way they act towards real commodity money such as silver and gold and attempt to cap it at a few percent over cost of production until the $USD system implodes.  The price would then mostly move only during macroeconomic trends like if inflation skyrockets then they're forced to allow it to go up some.  When the market cap of bitcoin is very low - like $1 million - it's very difficult to cap the price since it can be moved with little money.  Now that the market cap is huge, it's easier to stop it.

2)  Bitcoin is a US govt created scam to try and trick people away from physical metals and into a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, cashless society slavery system and they will be more than happy to let it rise.  Even if bitcoin wasn't created by them, they seem to still love the idea since evil cult of Judaism members like Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and their shabbos goyim slave Jack Dorsey promotes them.  They especially love the lightning network which is nothing more than recreating the exact same banking system that already exists.
Except that you can opt out and tell them to fuck off. You can also process your own payments without any permission if you have to.



1458. Post 50066252 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 07, 2019, 12:06:08 PM
Mic, show us your pics from El Nido, Palawan in the Philippines. It looks very nice, but I have read that some of the 'tours' only give you about 45 minutes in any one place.

Wanted to keep it quiet .... but cause you Ask.... i Will provid a few this evening Wink

Its truely beautyfull down here, of-course the small town a bit dirty (with its charmes) but out town only green and beauty


IRL 10X more breathtaking ..... pic’s making it look more bad Roll Eyes

Wasn’t plan to put in to much pic’s, but it was on request
Me sorry
Roll Eyes

And WTF is that red in BTC ?

(In the sea’s I saw 0 plastic or dirty things where i was) i did saw Some Holland peoples Wink

Wow Mrs Goosens is a hottie  Cool

Is for sure NO lie Cheesy
Partially is if you keep refusing to put a ring on her finger. Wink



1459. Post 50066263 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: ivomm on March 07, 2019, 12:16:38 PM
https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?
There's no way they can sustain 6.2% annual Bitcoin interest unless they pay it in fiat or virtually nobody deposits/stays deposited.



1460. Post 50066282 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 07, 2019, 12:42:59 PM
https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?

seems untenable really.

but. i did look around the site. no taxable event moving a coin there (or out i presume?). interest paid in same crypto as deposit. 1099 tax form sent with interest made for tax purposes. so you are taxed only on the interest. not sure how they figure that in USD when interest was in btc..

if you dont mind losing it, might be worth a play (for some). 1 btc or 45 eth minimum.

of course "not you keys not your btc."

risky but if you dont mind losing it all it might be appealing to some. as it would earn 6% that the btc in yer cold wallet doesnt.

nice, till you lose 100% of it. ooops

I follow one simple rule. I never do any "business" with anyone if I don't understand their business model and exactly know how THEY are profiting in the dealing. As I can't see here how they could profit from it it's a no-go for me.
By using the deposited coins to trade. Which makes it anything but risk-free even if you ignore general counter-party risk and hacks.



1461. Post 50068120 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 08, 2019, 04:52:07 AM
https://bitcoinist.com/gemini-backed-bitcoin-interest-account/

6.2% annual interest for a Bitcoin account sounds appealing. The idea is good and may attract many investors. But what if BlockFi turns out to be the new Bitconnect? Who cares that it is backed by Gemini?Any thoughts on this?
There's no way they can sustain 6.2% annual Bitcoin interest unless they pay it in fiat or virtually nobody deposits/stays deposited.

Sounds sketchy but some might take the risk (not me).



Will they offer the same rate when Bitcoin is well above $100k?

Lending out just 2 coins will net you $10k every singel month...this sounds too good to be true.

BTCjam 2.0.
It does not if you base it on those fiat numbers. There are, sometimes, dividends that pay in that range. The problem with BTC interest is the limited supply. It's just simply unsustainable for any substantial volume or period of time. So either they'll get "hacked" or lower the rates substantially depending on liquidity.



1462. Post 50070938 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2019, 08:25:29 AM
Thank you, you are very funny.  As in amusing.  Not odd.  Not odder than myself or anyone else here.  Which is a low bar but I enjoy our group of misfits.
I take great offense to that statement.


Might as well take the opportunity to note that despite our differences I enjoy reading your (non-TA; don't care about TA in general since I do my own) posts. Or perhaps because of the differences.



1463. Post 50071025 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2019, 08:47:40 AM
20 years of price changes in the United States...

Notice how government subsidized industries are the most expensive? 😮


College tuition in Belgium

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Tuition fees at public universities and colleges in the French Community of Belgium are set by the regional government. For the academic year 2015/2016, tuition fees ranged from 374 to 836.96 EUR per year for EU students depending on their income and whether they are eligible for a grant/scholarship.

There are other reasons.  Don’t blame it on government subsidies
I'm in Europe and University has gone to shit here. The Bachelor/Master system is a complete downgrade and utter disgrace from what we had before in a country undisclosed. University is now school round two instead of being an institution that fosters research and critical thinking (in non-research students - which make up the majority of the student body). I was appalled at how cookie cutter Mathematics and Physics programs are and surprised at the resulting quality of graduates (before I realized the problem).

Also, thanks to university "being" (appearing) free, people who can't normally afford it are taking up bullshit recreational courses that don't produce any value in the Economy. I don't have anything against those and am interested in some of the topics myself. But when people get fooled into believing that they can study anything and get a job there's a problem. And when it's "free" they are ridden of any incentive to think about the implications of their actions.



1464. Post 50079824 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 08, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
20 years of price changes in the United States...

Notice how government subsidized industries are the most expensive? 😮


College tuition in Belgium

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Tuition fees at public universities and colleges in the French Community of Belgium are set by the regional government. For the academic year 2015/2016, tuition fees ranged from 374 to 836.96 EUR per year for EU students depending on their income and whether they are eligible for a grant/scholarship.

There are other reasons.  Don’t blame it on government subsidies
I'm in Europe and University has gone to shit here. The Bachelor/Master system is a complete downgrade and utter disgrace from what we had before in a country undisclosed. University is now school round two instead of being an institution that fosters research and critical thinking (in non-research students - which make up the majority of the student body). I was appalled at how cookie cutter Mathematics and Physics programs are and surprised at the resulting quality of graduates (before I realized the problem).

Also, thanks to university "being" (appearing) free, people who can't normally afford it are taking up bullshit recreational courses that don't produce any value in the Economy. I don't have anything against those and am interested in some of the topics myself. But when people get fooled into believing that they can study anything and get a job there's a problem. And when it's "free" they are ridden of any incentive to think about the implications of their actions.

I totally agree with you, especially regarding the The Bachelor/Master system.
But I also think that the government more or less pushing everybody in to university studies is to blame, it's become more like high school than university, with some exceptions.,When I studied in the late 80s early 90s it was still a bit special to study at a university, today it seems more or less mandatory.

The last point is also quite interesting. It really does seem as if a degree was mandatory.

But in reality, any self-driven and somewhat disciplined person would be able to learn much more by just not going to university and focusing on their profession of choice. University takes up too much time on mundane repetitive nonsense that doesn't teach you anything of value and takes time away from building a portfolio of work, while simultaneously driving most students into just blatantly copying assignments without learning anything.


When I was teaching I had to give classes and correct assignments, and 70% of them were identical (including spelling and grammatical errors).

As a job it was nice, because I'd have one pile of assignments where I marked the first one and then only copied off the final points, without any notes. That resulted in an hourly wage of over 60 Euros.

But when thinking about the implications for society that's just sad.


Which doesn't mean that University (even in it's current state) has no place at all, as anyone who needs someone or something to kick their asses to be productive can still benefit from them. But in most cases they just exacerbate the underlying problem that starts in elementary school. Namely turning curious and motivated kids into retarded unmotivated copy/paste drones.



1465. Post 50079932 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on March 08, 2019, 02:14:20 PM
Because more of the population needs to be there the level has been degraded on purpose. The degrees are inflated like fiat currency.

Especially the alpha studies are complete nonsense with mandatory attendance based grading. With the ever more free availability of information I think the future of universities as part of the education system will come to an end in the next decades allowing them to focus on research once more.

btw: Did you read about the US university last week which wants to start grading on effort instead of merit. LMFAO!
Not in the least surprised, although this is the first time I've heard of it. If governments would block that I would consider being for them, but they just make almost everything worse that they touch. Mostly because politicians aren't required to be the intellectual elite of the world, or even base their actions on logic and reason with public accountability.


The one and only thing that I am on the fence about with regard to governments is the rule of law. I appreciate that, although I am not 100% sure how much it's doing. I don't see humans allowing scum to roam freely, regardless of government intervention. Things might be much more brutal and cutthroat without, but then people would think twice before acting up.

Not saying that the rule of law is bad and I'm certainly not willing to take the risk of dropping it even for an experiment, but I'm not fully convinced that it's as important as it seems. Still, that's about the one and only thing that I can think of that I would give governments credit for. And even then, it mostly exists to protect the people in power with everything else being a pleasant side-effect. Everything else so far seems to be more harmful than productive, even if the supposed goals are, from time to time, positive.



1466. Post 50080054 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 08, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2019/03/us-marshals-want-help-disposing-virtual-currencies/155381/
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Stored cryptocurrencies must be kept in a segregated digital wallet set aside specifically for the Marshals Service and must be safeguarded against “theft, human error, system failures and acts of God,” the documents state. The contractor must also be able to “brute force,” or be able to hack into, wallets that are “locked by error or technical difficulties,” enabling marshals to gain access no matter what happens.

On the disposal side, the winning vendor must be able to convert the digital currencies to physical money, either by exchanging directly to U.S. dollars, exchanging for more liquid virtual currencies and assets or through a sealed-bid auction. The contractor must also have a mechanism for returning seized assets to the original owners when required.
....
Has anyone made projections on potential permanent loss of Bitcoins resulting from seizure due to criminal activity over time?



1467. Post 50080088 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 08, 2019, 07:53:09 PM
https://gizmodo.com/u-s-army-assures-public-that-robot-tank-system-adheres-1833061674
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In its request, the Army asked for help enabling the Advanced Targeting and Lethality Automated System (ATLAS) to “acquire, identify, and engage targets at least 3X faster than the current manual process.” But that language apparently scared some people who are worried about the rise of AI-powered killing machines.



meanwhile the price is really trying to go up

I never understood the whole human fetish. Sure, we might be in human shells, but how exactly is it bad to swap them out once possible? We've technically done so through evolution anyways, so nothing new is happening here other than the increased speed.

I'm also pretty sure that virtually nobody would say no if they could swap between flying around as a bird and their usual human shell. This isn't really any different other than a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes as life.



1468. Post 50080174 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2019, 09:18:44 PM


YouTube link. https://youtu.be/Cfg6rQaHn0s
Funny how accurate the tweet is. Here's a comment from the video:

"Tom7
1 day ago
Exciting times. So glad all the NPCs parroting "BSV is a scam" will not be a part of this future, Bitcoin is truly an IQ test. "

And his avatar is the Indian guy wearing clothes made of gold.



And while I'm not sure it means much, since I'm quite biased against SV, the guy in the video looks disingenuous as hell and like the type of person I would never drop my guard around.



1469. Post 50080240 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 09, 2019, 12:14:05 AM
Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
Twitter—>copy—-> paste Roll Eyes

WoW of to the next place, this local El Nido AirPort is so small, check in, walk out into the plain (love those fast AirPorts)
Copy/paste has its place. There's no need to reinvent the wheel every single time.

To elaborate on my previous post. Copy/paste becomes a problem when it becomes the natural mindset for every situation with no attempts to generate unique thoughts. Also, people who fall into that category truly believe that whatever they happened to copy/paste is truth.
It also stops people from even considering other options, because school teaches you that one specific set of solutions is right, while others don't matter and/or are plain wrong. Reality could not be any further from that though.
Children are generally curious and open to everything, this changes once they hit school (or once their parents get tired of them asking questions).



1470. Post 50083662 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Not sure if Mic already posted this, but:

Colorado's new Digital Tokens Act exempts cryptos from securities laws

https://twitter.com/Chepicap/status/1104067256391213058





Not going to post the direct link to the news in the Tweet because those fucking twats only show an "accept all cookies" button.



1471. Post 50083736 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 09, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
Seems like being a teacher at American universities isn't very lucrative (this guy is also my favorite you tuber). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7lGCPX_8nc
Neither is it in Europe. Normal teachers earn some 2k Euros a month. And tenured university professors earn much more, but also only 80k Euros per year. Laughable if you consider their training and the fact that they pioneered the majority of cures and technologies.

Going to put the video on my evening playlist, looks interesting.



1472. Post 50084033 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 09, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
@VB1001 - When I started buying £100 bought nearly 1 whole bitcoin. Fast forward 5 years & imagine if we see that % increase in price in another 5 years. This is why you should never doubt yourself buying smaller amounts.

£100 worth of BTC now could be worth a shit load in 5 years. As I always say buy what you can afford to when you can afford to now & enjoy the profits in the future.

One day my friend all the patience will be rewarded.

I mentioned this several times before too.  I had some cash flow issues in 2015, and frequently in 2015, I would buy small amounts on a daily basis, even below $5 worth, just to stack away my buy for the day and some of those buys really added up... just imagine $30 would get you well over .1BTC.

  I know that currently some places will not allow you to make such low purchases, but I was able to make many low purchase amounts in 2015, and my point is that low amounts of purchases can add up and their value can become quite a lot more with the passage of time, too. 

hashtag Stacking satoshis.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


But I agree with you, the small contributions to BTC over time add up.

(I have my friend Maine Coon hospitalized for severe kidney failure, the vet bills are altering my cash flow, luckily he is recovering and is at home.)
Glad your feline is doing fine. Our house cat wasn't so lucky when she had surgery. Curiously enough she spent orders of magnitude more time greeting me and seeing me off the last time I visited my parents. And she wasn't a social cat whatsoever so that begged the question of whether or not she knew or if it was just one massive coincidence.



1473. Post 50084080 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

https://phys.org/news/2019-03-moon.html


Inb4 future generations extract so much out of the moon that it alters ebb and flow on earth.



1474. Post 50084270 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 09, 2019, 09:37:41 AM
Tech support here? my scroll wheel started smoking when reading this topic?



Submerge it in water, that should help with the smoking.



1475. Post 50084702 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 09, 2019, 10:11:54 AM
But I agree with you, the small contributions to BTC over time add up.

(I have my friend Maine Coon hospitalized for severe kidney failure, the vet bills are altering my cash flow, luckily he is recovering and is at home.)
Glad your feline is doing fine. Our house cat wasn't so lucky when she had surgery. Curiously enough she spent orders of magnitude more time greeting me and seeing me off the last time I visited my parents. And she wasn't a social cat whatsoever so that begged the question of whether or not she knew or if it was just one massive coincidence.

I'm sorry about the loss of your cat.

I remembered your comments on research, aging, immortality.
The treatment consisted of intravenously injecting stem cells from another healthy Maine Coon. Shocked
This progresses very fast, soon we will be immortal, our generation maybe not, but the next generations will see very positive advances in this field.

Tnx for your comment.
Thank you. It's been quite a while now though and she lived a long and happy life. I mostly felt like bringing up the story of how she spent so much time seeing me off the last time I got to see her, which was something that she hasn't done even once in the ~15 years of her life.

And yeah, I have a suspicion that we might just be the last generation that is shit out of luck. Should that be the case I'll likely freeze myself though. If it works out nice, if not then I'll just have a fancy coffin. Doesn't really cost much anymore these days either so might as well.



1476. Post 50094829 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 10, 2019, 01:48:24 AM
Two of the largest banks in the world, Deutsche Bank and Commerzbank, may merge to "fix" their problems.

Someone should tell them centralizing further doesn't fix anything.

Decentralization of money is the future.

https://twitter.com/alecziupsnys/status/1104550062481383425?s=21
The problem with Deutsche Bank is that it's trying to fuck its customers with every chance they get. And they've been taking note and leaving. Those fuckers are legally protected loan sharks.



1477. Post 50095019 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Hueristic on March 10, 2019, 02:38:49 AM
I could tell you but then...

DYOR
You couldn't, nobody cares about you unless you're doing dumb shit in a dumb way that draws attention.



1478. Post 50095430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Hueristic on March 10, 2019, 02:49:59 AM
I could tell you but then...

DYOR
You couldn't, nobody cares about you unless you're doing dumb shit in a dumb way that draws attention.

You are so not worth the time, nor the effort.
And given your lack of reasoning you come off as a tinfoil wearing nutjob. If you don't want to use phones that's fine. But pretending that they somehow magically reveal all of your secrets if you don't want to is just plain wrong.



1479. Post 50114199 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2019, 07:52:48 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
As a Mathematician I believe in (the power of) both. And I've seen enough to know that we don't know shit about climate.


I'll be the first to say that it's completely and utterly retarded to clutter oceans and the environment with our plastic waste and other garbage.

However, climate is a whole different ball park that is comparable to trying to understand the human brain. This shit is just far too complex for our current data collecting and processing methods, even if we had a perfect model for it (which we most certainly do not).



1480. Post 50114220 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2019, 07:59:52 AM
Can someone translate what this tables says?

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1104635332274749446

Wondering how much more they have left to liquidate at $4k

$33 million worth.  In other words, Bitmain is worth about 12% of the Quadriga exit scam.




This makes me very happy. Thank you for posting. Gotta love karma dealing lefts and rights.



1481. Post 50114288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 11, 2019, 08:09:48 AM
Poor lil Warren. Imagine being a market guru all your life and all of a sudden missing on #bitcoin

$2051 invested in Bitcoin (at Bitcoin pizza prices) are worth $1,000,000,000 today.

Of course he is not a fan.

#shortWarren Long Bitcoin

https://twitter.com/hodlgames/status/1104779950408765442?s=21
To be fair, the guy is a genius when it comes to traditional investments. Not that that means much in a world full of people who don't know what compound interest is.



1482. Post 50114313 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 11, 2019, 08:12:21 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.
This is, currently, fact. And the fact that science has been politicized and commercialized in a way that fundamentally goes against the scientific method is more problematic than any environmental issues that we face. With science we can rebuild anything, without it we're just straight up fucked.



1483. Post 50114407 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 11, 2019, 08:18:03 AM
Humans? Causing environmental changes? Pff.   Roll Eyes

http://i.imgur.com/zDgG2b8.jpg
http://www.orangesmile.com/extreme/img/main/quarry-lucky_1.jpg
https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/RT_beijing_traffic_2_jt_151008_16x9_992.jpg
While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.

This would also make overpopulation (@Ibian) irrelevant if humans were smart enough to focus on figuring out how to relocate people too dumb to not concentrate in cities they can not even afford to live in.


For climate, here's an interesting paper that claims that CO2 is preceded by global warming, as opposed to causing it. It also claims alternating periods of warming and cooling. Here's a link: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-804588-6.00009-4



1484. Post 50114437 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2019, 08:30:28 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.

According to the Chinese government, there is no link between cigarettes and cancer. Western cigarette companies continue to argue in US courts that the link between cancer and cigarettes is only speculative.

Do you agree that cancer being caused by cigarettes is an unproven hypothesis?
I know that there are people who chain smoke and live happy healthy lives well into their 80s and 90s.

Whether you'll get cancer depends on many factors, such as your genetic make-up, your mentality, and your overall lifestyle.

So no, it's not proven that cigarettes de facto cause cancer. They correlate with an increased risk of such, the reasons for which are not fully understood. If they were we would've identified a counter-mechanism to it by now.


This is the problem with science and people who don't understand statistics arguing about it by the way. This includes most scientists who never studied statistics rigorously and only know how to run shitty t-tests and compute confidence intervals, σ-values and whatnot.



1485. Post 50114508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2019, 08:38:04 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
This data is irrelevant to the question. It shows that earth is warming, but if you check the paper of my previous post you can see that this is potentially perfectly normal behaviour. Your link does not show that CO2 causes warming and it only covers a laughably small time scale. Life on earth has been around for far more than the 100ish years on that table.

If anything, the link you provide does not discredit the claim that scientists could be milking government grants with real, but irrelevant and falsely interpreted data.

And I say that as a strong believer in what NASA has done in the past. I don't know what they're up to these days, but I'm certainly grateful for all the things they've come up with to indirectly enrich all of our lives.



1486. Post 50114537 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 11, 2019, 09:15:45 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
I said numbers. But you don't have any. So you throw out random bullshit in an attempt to distract people and cover up the fact that your position is objectively wrong.

Why do you keep thinking you can get away with this? We have been through this clown circus too many times by now.
To be fair, both of you argue the same way. Just from opposing positions. I suppose I wasn't the only one getting tired of even trying to have a conversation on here at times.



1487. Post 50114588 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on March 11, 2019, 09:22:26 AM

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.
LOL how?

1. How could you deny the environmental pollution causing by the industrial smokes, cars etc?
2. How could you deny the fact that we are destroying the environmental ecosystem by cutting the forests?[/b]
3. How could you deny that we are killing animals and imbalancing the entire food chain?
4. How could you deny the climate change?
5. How could you deny the increased sea level?

Do you know what will happen if the last bee dies?
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjID1ugr1fo
1. On a local scale, sure. And while China is clearly fucked, I'm perfectly healthy over here in Europe. Including all the wildlife around me.
2. https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/tree-growth-increasing-world-climate-change/
3. Fair claim. Animals are disappearing. And I don't like it either because I like animals more than the average human.
4. Climate change happens every second even without human intervention. That's why we have weather.
5. Sea levels were higher in the past than they are now. It just depends on how you pick your data.



1488. Post 50114624 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 11, 2019, 09:44:13 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
I said numbers. But you don't have any. So you throw out random bullshit in an attempt to distract people and cover up the fact that your position is objectively wrong.

Why do you keep thinking you can get away with this? We have been through this clown circus too many times by now.

Go argue it with NASA.  Tell them about your rat theory revelation.  I am sure they will be fascinated.
His rat theory actually has merit.

And even without rats we've known about this for a long time.

It's called population models and they're the first thing you study when learning about differential equations.

Populations start decreasing for one reason or another once they get too large and then either disappear or return to an equilibrium state.

How this plays out in practice is not understood for humans, because we're the most new phenomenon on this planet and thus have no data to compare with.



1489. Post 50114636 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 11, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
Flat earther and moon landing can not be linked together. Two different dimension to argue.

The earth is flat for the fools who do not have any idea about how gravity works, who do not know anything about basic physics. But moon landing was/is questionable and a lot of them make sense.

NASA is a big business centre.

I have a general rule not to debate with anyone on the internet who thinks or says:

• the earth is flat

•  the moon landings were faked

• cigarettes don’t cause cancer

So 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.  It is a beautiful day here and I hope you have a good one.

What about those that says XRP is the best coin??

Or Bcash = the real Bitcoin

What about those?
Beeconnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeect is the real Bitcorn.



1490. Post 50114647 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 11, 2019, 10:02:11 AM


Do you know what will happen if the last bee dies?



Its natural, they will just be replaced with swarms of hummingbirds

Or bees.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-01/good-news-for-bees-as-numbers-recover-while-mystery-malady-wanes



1491. Post 50114719 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 11, 2019, 11:30:12 AM
While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.

Humans can pollute a lot more land/water than they occupy with their physical bodies.

I bet that Ganges River is not as clean now as let's say 10 000 years ago.
Yeah, but India is one of the most populated places on earth. Fix India and teach them sanitation and you've got a clean Ganges. Shitting in my toilet doesn't mean that yours is about to get dirty though. Just like an ant colony shitting in my backyard won't pollute that of my neighbour.



1492. Post 50114801 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 11, 2019, 11:42:18 AM
Beeconnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeect is the real Bitcorn.

Still i think that Carlos matos character was hilarious really laught with him
Agree, I re-watched that part countless times. Very charismatic guy, too bad he associated with scammers (although otherwise we wouldn't have the memes, so hmmmmmm).



1493. Post 50114921 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 11, 2019, 11:49:57 AM
While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.

Humans can pollute a lot more land/water than they occupy with their physical bodies.

I bet that Ganges River is not as clean now as let's say 10 000 years ago.
Yeah, but India is one of the most populated places on earth. Fix India and teach them sanitation and you've got a clean Ganges. Shitting in my toilet doesn't mean that yours is about to get dirty though. Just like an ant colony shitting in my backyard won't pollute that of my neighbour.

One big oil tanker crashing and leaking can cause a lot of damage even in less populated areas (e.g. Alaska 1989).
I'm not saying it's not "a lot" of damage, I'm saying it's not necessarily a lot in terms relative to the global scale. Unless you can show how humans fuck up even unpopulated areas beyond repair that's really not very relevant to "earth". What you have shown so far were examples comparable to a tiny itch on your pinky.

On local scales I agree, humans are retarded and should be more careful. Mostly because you don't want to live in a house filled with trash either.


But the doomsday narrative is unproven, potentially inaccurate and for now mostly political garbage.

Politicians will tell you what you want to hear, and a narrative that destroys our planet is of great interest to everyone. Large swabs of science and politics are just as much under a blanket as big corporations and governments are, so don't just buy everything. Especially media headlines.

I'm not trying to be a cunt here, but it's important not to talk about things you don't even remotely understand the scope of as if they were fact. That doesn't help anyone and actively hinders us from identifying the real story.



1494. Post 50118111 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 11, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
I'm not trying to be a cunt here, but it's important not to talk about things you don't even remotely understand the scope of as if they were fact.

Try harder... and while your at it, try practicing what your preaching. Now gtfo and go invest some of those "millions" into an actual education.
I don't think I need any more degrees. And I clearly state when I don't know the conclusion, which you would be able to tell if you read any of my numerous posts today. So how about you fuck off instead?



1495. Post 50118251 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 11, 2019, 01:14:22 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47470353
Who could have predicted - Denmark's very rapey, especially victimising transgenders.
It's all those foreigners doing it. Danes, to be clear.
Member fuck Denmark?



1496. Post 50118334 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 11, 2019, 04:07:16 PM
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While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.
...

I see this one a lot and it strikes me as lazy thinking.  Sure, we could fit the entire human population on a standard residential lot in West Texas...but we don't.

Humans, of course, occupy and change the most productive areas.  The areas we leave are generally inhospitable to us, or much of anything else.

A good bit of the non ocean surface of this planet is rocks, ice or sand.  The 10% that we are camped on is most of the best, and we harvest off of more than that.


Do you understand what "not necessarily" means, or are you making up conclusions on my behalf again? You do raise a fair point, bar the deliverance. But with indoor farming we can turn just about anything hospitable with today's technology.



1497. Post 50118440 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: kingcolex on March 11, 2019, 04:13:38 PM
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While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.
...

I see this one a lot and it strikes me as lazy thinking.  Sure, we could fit the entire human population on a standard residential lot in West Texas...but we don't.

Humans, of course, occupy and change the most productive areas.  The areas we leave are generally inhospitable to us, or much of anything else.

A good bit of the non ocean surface of this planet is rocks, ice or sand.  The 10% that we are camped on is most of the best, and we harvest off of more than that.

Do you understand what "not necessarily" means, or are you making up conclusions on my behalf again? You do raise a fair point, bar the deliverance. But with indoor farming we can turn just about anything hospitable with today's technology.
Help we could turn those massive insane caves into massive indoor farms too. People often forget about how insanely large underneath us is.
As well as above us.

The original point though was that the planet likely doesn't give a shit about us pooping ourselves on minuscule portions of land. @jojo



1498. Post 50124374 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 11, 2019, 05:25:30 PM
@JayJuanGee @ LFC_Bitcoin @bitserve

I had a choice last year that should I buy a car or house. I invested in property and reinvesting remaining money in more important things.

If everything works out fine in the next 5-10 year or so then, will buy Car with Driver  Grin

I am very happy with my under $100 bicycle and other than that I have my old "Royal Enfield classic 350" for road trips.



You usually can’t go wrong investing in bricks & mortar. It’s probably what I’ll do if/when bitcoin moons (buy lots of houses & start a property management company or something) otherwise I’ll become an alcoholic or a drug addict or something wandering around with nothing to do all day Cheesy


Great way to think about things. Most people only think to "moon" and then let things happen. And lottery winners have shown where that usually ends.



1499. Post 50124392 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 11, 2019, 06:37:34 PM
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can

Depends in what context, Tom Hanks had it all in the film ‘Cast Away’ in my opinion. Living off the land in beautiful nature. At times I wish I could do that. People are overrated, I love being on my own.
Same (the being alone part). But I also love technology, entertainment and great food. So I guess I'd say that being around humans is overrated as opposed to people themselves. Also a good scotch tastes twice as good in good company, which also elevates the herb and listening to full albums.



1500. Post 50124410 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: nanobtc on March 11, 2019, 06:37:37 PM
Fourth-generation farmer here. Underground farming? Not gonna happen, unless there is an extinction-level event. It takes more than space. The temperature is certainly constant, but at some stages the plants will do better if it's warmer. The realities of getting heat, light and water in needed quantities greatly outweigh the benefits. Underground caverns also (mostly) don't have appropriate soil, though hydroponics could be considered.

"Real" farming beyond hobby gardening is going to take machinery to plant  and harvest (at the least). Currently that is all internal combustion tractors and combines, fuel exhaust will be a problem underground.
Is heat, water and light still a problem with hydroponics? There's that gigantic automated indoor vertical farm in Japan that I'm pretty sure used hydroponics. Although I don't know to what extent hydroponics limit what you can grow, which would be another issue.



1501. Post 50124429 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 11, 2019, 06:52:36 PM

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.
LOL how?

How could you deny the environmental pollution causing by the industrial smokes, cars etc?
How could you deny the fact that we are destroying the environmental ecosystem by cutting the forests?
How could you deny that we are killing animals and imbalancing the entire food chain?
How could you deny the climate change?
How could you deny the increased sea level?

Do you know what will happen if the last bee dies?
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjID1ugr1fo

It is called willful ignorance, most distasteful in an otherwise intelligent individual.

One of the largest challenges we face is the constant erosion of aesthetic expectations.  I sit here in middle age, aghast at the degradation I have seen in my short lifetime.  People younger than me never even saw it before we logged off the Pacific Northwest, before we built out the strip malls, before the fisheries started to collapse.  They have no reference point to know or value the beauty that I remember, and my recollections begin in the early 1970s when the accelerated decline had been well underway for some time.

Anthropogenic climate change may or may not turn out to be significant, but the dystopian cesspool we are creating is very, very real.

+2 WOsMerits

I'm not trying to be a cunt here, but it's important not to talk about things you don't even remotely understand the scope of as if they were fact.

Try harder... and while your at it, try practicing what your preaching. Now gtfo and go invest some of those "millions" into an actual education.
I don't think I need any more degrees. And I clearly state when I don't know the conclusion, which you would be able to tell if you read any of my numerous posts today. So how about you fuck off instead?

Its not just about the destination..but also the trip along the way. See above.

In this particular instance all I see is hypocrisy on your part. You fling ad hominems around without contributing to the discussion whatsoever. The hypocrisy of yours is a direct result of you bold quoting "willful ignorance" while completely ignoring every single thing I've said.

Again, the only problem are people like you. I'm providing objective points of concern from both sides, while you attack people from a perspective that you've picked up in MSM that you clearly don't know shit about. Otherwise you would have a civil discussion instead of attacking me.



1502. Post 50124518 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 11, 2019, 10:28:24 PM

Accurate. Anyone sufficiently intelligent and knowledgeable is out there creating real solutions to real problems, rather than creating fake problems to cry for fake solutions. Or just simply permanently intoxicated, which is still vastly preferable to wasting a lifetime in the circle jerk farce that is politics.



1503. Post 50124757 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.35h):

Quote from: Hueristic on March 12, 2019, 04:21:56 AM
Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.

The whole argument is a fallacy, it doesn't matter if its man made or not. we have the power to make the world what we want it to be and we should use that power. It's natural for species to become extinct, should we not do anything and become extinct because its natural? Terraforming the world is a natural advance of any civilization if it wants to survive, it is no different than protecting that world from space born objects.
It's natural for species to be replaced, often with whatever they evolve into. And we're clearly on the way to evolving ourselves by merging with technology and gene-editing. While I believe that there will most likely be subsets of humans that will remain such (similarly to current random tribes around the world), humans will mostly go extinct in the future. But not because we've "gone extinct".

I'm all for terraforming and keeping animals around by the way, as well as reviving those of the past and making up new ones. All of which we'll hopefully treat better and/or leave the fuck alone once lab meat becomes commercialized and common sense.


Either way, what argument exactly are you calling a fallacy? The notion that man made climate change is unproven is fact. Environmental change however is a different story, it's obvious that plastics and other trash is messing with oceans. And we have certainly displaced much of vegetation and wildlife.



1504. Post 50127449 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 12, 2019, 08:58:14 AM
Americans now have more than $4 trillion of collective debt for the first time in history.

$4,000,000,000,000

At some point, the bubble will pop....

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Americans will need to buy bitcoin to pay their debt.
^
More country’s Will Grin

https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1105285906532061184?s=21
One could think that the increase in debt is a direct result of increase in population. However, the debt per person has been on the rise as well:




One would have to correct this for inflation and income, among other things, to get a more accurate picture, but I'm too lazy to do so myself and Google doesn't seem to deliver on that front.



1505. Post 50128804 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 12, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
The World Wide Web turns 30 today. That means it took the internet 30 years to get to where it is today. Bitcoin is only 10 years old.

https://twitter.com/redditbtc/status/1105359845639815168?s=21

In fact Internet is way older than that. It is just WWW what is 30 years old. Maybe the fair comparison would be with LN... which is less than two years old.

Either way, yeah, it will need time... but not that much, because tech adoption is way faster in this age.
The internet didn't disrupt the fiat system in the process though. So while adoption is accelerated by the internet, the fact that we're going up against a real beast could dampen the acceleration a bit (as compared to other technological advances). On the other hand, the internet didn't offer generous financial rewards to believers, which implies an acceleration. Who knows what the net result of all effects becomes. Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Haven't been this excited about emerging tech since the Nintendo sixty fouuuuuuuuuuur and the internet itself. Although I know that I'll become incontinent once we start taking the last steps towards general AI, and not because of age.



Memo to self: Stop meriting legendaries.



1506. Post 50128857 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: vroom on March 12, 2019, 11:27:58 AM
Haven't been this excited about emerging tech since the Nintendo sixty fouuuuuuuuuuur and the internet itself.

Oh come on, you can not compare the nintendo 64 with the internet, that is blasphemy Smiley
Not saying they're of equal magnitude or implication. Just stating that both equally excited me.



1507. Post 50138390 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Syke on March 12, 2019, 12:10:50 PM
... total household debt increased by $32 billion (0.2%) to $13.54 trillion in the fourth quarter of 2018



Everyone is drowning in debt because people aren't being paid for what they produce. Time to tax the billionaires.
Billionaires repeatedly put their money at stake for returns. "Everyone" else is staking their money on iPhones. So fuck off you filthy thief.



1508. Post 50138430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 12, 2019, 01:41:37 PM
According to HuffPost, on average people spend about $650 on Alcohol every month.

That means if you cut your drinking habit by 50% and spent the money you saved on #Bitcoin, you could invest $325 or about .08 $BTC, at these prices, monthly.

In 12.5 months, you’d have 1 BTC.

💡

https://twitter.com/mrmichaelnye/status/1105227653257314304?s=21


But but what about me saturdayzzzz ??
Fucking filthy Billionaires are to blame for average people not building wealth. Tax them and corporations, that provide us with everything we use in our daily life, to death! Angry



1509. Post 50138464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: kenzawak on March 12, 2019, 01:59:39 PM
Bitcoin & Blockchain Adoption Will Be a Lot Faster Than The Internet Boom of 90’s

https://blockpublisher.com/bitcoin-blockchain-adoption-will-be-a-lot-faster-than-the-internet-boom-of-90s/

-Jack Lu, founder of Wanchain, certainly thinks so:
“We are at a similar stage as the internet boom back in the early 2000s. Right now the whole industry is trying to build real world applications with increased funding. I think a life changing disruption would be a lot faster than it was back in the internet world. The reason is blockchain deals with two type of things: data and assets, which is also a form of data. Since these things are already digitized or about to be digitized, blockchain will gain traction a lot faster.”
...
“Majority of financial assets are already digitized as they are in some form of data, like in banks. Putting them on blockchain and building applications such as smart contracts and decentralized applications will be a lot faster this time around than the old days of internet that revolutionized pretty much every industry.”
...

-Maxine Ryan, co-founder of world’s first cash-in, cash-out blockchain remittance platform Bitspark, pinpointed how the data storing capability of blockchain technology can be utilized. She said:
“I think that there is definitely space for blockchain to be adopted in areas where the technology itself can be treated essentially like a database, and in every single infrastructure built in many different verticals, a database is needed.”
...
“I think it’s unfortunate that when the market is hyped, it attracts bad actors. At such a time, the market can make irrational decisions. I believe that investors should have sufficient knowledge of the field and understand how to do due diligence before they invest.”
...
“I always take internet as a history book. Initially, people termed internet a scam back when it came out. In the second stage, some use cases were proven that revolutionized everything and in the third stage, the internet was everywhere. Same will happen with blockchain technology. It will be incorporated in pretty much every computer, mobile phone and pretty much into everything that has digital data. People wouldn’t even think that there is blockchain technology working inside every device, just like people don’t think about the technology behind internet.”

It probably wouldn't hurt to make a distinction between Bitcoin [as SoV, MoE, UoA] and general Bitcoin adoption. Blockchain will penetrate society very fast and make legacy finance vastly more efficient. The former however could either precede, move along, or lag behind in pace. Possibly quite substantially.

My hunch is that it'll lag behind, because banks and governments will be flailing around and the average person needs daddy government to tell them it's all going to be okay.



1510. Post 50138839 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 12, 2019, 03:03:00 PM
we have the power to make the world what we want it to be and we should use that power.

Tell us why you are better off because the dodo and the passenger pigeon are extinct. Actually on second thought, don’t.  
Tell us why it makes you worse off. Except you can't. As usual.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiversity_loss

Quote
Even though permanent global species loss is a more dramatic phenomenon than regional changes in species composition, even minor changes from a healthy stable state can have dramatic influence on the food web and the food chain insofar as reductions in only one species can adversely affect the entire chain (coextinction), leading to an overall reduction in biodiversity, possible alternative stable states of an ecosystem notwithstanding. Ecological effects of biodiversity are usually counteracted by its loss. Reduced biodiversity in particular leads to reduced ecosystem services and eventually poses an immediate danger for food security, also for humankind.[1]
In your own words, twat. This is about you personally as per your own play.
While I've already mentioned that I don't personally like a potential loss of biodiversity, it's not necessarily a bad thing. It could provide humans with new challenges that could allow us to achieve new highs that we wouldn't have seen otherwise by tackling those.
Just to name one spin on how the loss of biodiversity could be a good, rather than a bad thing.

Eden's garden type situations and decadence have lead to the fall of many civilizations, and mediocrity, laziness and lack of willpower, which all could be contributing to the increase in depression rates, have lead to the fall of previous civilizations.

In history it has always been great pain that created great things. This could be a natural phenomenon, just like the cycle of Bitcorns going up and down, just like climate going from hot to cold, hardship and prosperity could also be coming in periods.

Of course, if that was indeed the case, then there is nothing that should stop us from realizing the impeding hardship sooner and combating it before it takes place. But if we want to effectively do so we need to stop pretending as if there were right and wrong paths. There are goals and ways to achieve them, and not everybody will agree on the solution, never mind the goal.



1511. Post 50138851 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 12, 2019, 05:09:07 PM
In this particular instance all I see is hypocrisy on your part. You fling ad hominems around without contributing to the discussion whatsoever. The hypocrisy of yours is a direct result of you bold quoting "willful ignorance" while completely ignoring every single thing I've said.

Again, the only problem are people like you. I'm providing objective points of concern from both sides, while you attack people from a perspective that you've picked up in MSM that you clearly don't know shit about. Otherwise you would have a civil discussion instead of attacking me.

You are correct sir..I am calling your character in to question...flat out. If people like me are the problem then I thank the Lord that we still seem to have the majority and the World continues on its merry chaotic way. I hear nothing objective from your opinions other than a sense of bloated self-righteousness bordering on megalomania. Be that at as it may, I believe everyone is entitled to have an opinion and its completely obvious that you have yours and I have mine. Do not think for a second however that I wont call bullsh*t on you when and where appropriate as I have in the past and will continue to do so in the future. That you call my perspective main stream is laughable and truly shows how little you know and gives insight as to where you think you are. If you want to have a civil conversation fine, but I can not get over the feeling that you have almost zero real world experience in the things you talk about. With nigh 4 decades working out in the field in heavy industry and to have literally watched the sky burn and cry tears of oil I can tell you that from my perspective, humanity is impacting the planet. Your blasé attempts to provide "points of concern" appear disingenuous and frankly argumentative. Climate change or environmental change, whatever you care to label it is happening and waiting until hypothesis is proven out as fact in this case would be in my humble opinion nothing short of recklessness.

Upon further thought I was not flinging anything around, this is just plain false. I specifically asked you to pick a direction with a expletive added in for vernacular. If you choose to take this as an ad hominem attack that is your prerogative.

Honestly, it does not matter at this point as I do not feel I will change your mind with my opinions or experiences and we are pretty well off topic so why we dont we leave it with that. Good day.
All you do is attack again and claiming that I'm not being objective. It is you projecting your own evil character into my posts. You are naive. So naive that it distorts your perception of reality. And as a result you're a force of evil.

You haven't even quoted the literal scientific paper from a peer reviewed scientific journal that I've provided and keep attacking my person. And then you call me non-objective. You are literally the problem until you stop attacking and start discussing on neutral grounds. You're too deluded and emotional to even realize that I am not taking any sides you colossal fucking cunt. Your name is clearly a self-descriptor.

Or maybe you're just too fucking old and used up to understand how to look at problems without appealing to authority. You fucking pawn.


P.S. If you were actually objective you would've seen that I never denied climate change in any of my posts. I've even provided a fucking paper that shows evidence for climate change you fucking retard. So yes, you absolutely are the problem. Your laziness and intellectual dishonesty is the source of all evil and problems in this world. (By your I'm grouping you with all the morons that act the way you do.)



1512. Post 50138922 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 12, 2019, 09:25:44 PM
^repost^ Wink

inb4 fake?
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/03/12/why-i-invented-titania-mcgrath/
previously https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/25/the-death-of-godfrey-elfwick/
Aren't China and India much more polluting? Can't even stay healthy in some of those places without oxygen masks.



1513. Post 50138950 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 12, 2019, 10:41:08 PM
So, predictions. If I am correct that all the social ills and psychological and behavioral problems of our time is primarily caused by overpopulation and life being too easy for generations at a time, then there are only a very small number of possible future outcomes.

The first one that a lot of people will probably jump to is that we simply wait for the boomers to die and then everything will be fine after that. Not going to happen. Things always change, and always towards the left over time.

Other than that, the only option is a violent reduction in numbers. War, pestilence or famine. Given the current understanding of the amygdala, war is most likely to come in the form of a soviet-style collapse. The states will continue to become ever more tyrannical until we have an economic collapse, which will result in lowered food production and a lot of dead people.

So if soviet conditions are the most likely near-future outcome, what to do about it?

Flee. Simple as that. If you stay, odds are you will be locked up or have all your property stolen or simply end up shot. Let the disease burn itself out, and when the rebuilding begins in 10-30 years it might be time to come back if you feel like it by then. But staying through it is simply too dangerous and there is no reward.


On a side note, I have gained a new appreciation for the importance and role of religion during these studies. Maybe a topic for another time.

I agree with overpopulation to become a real world issue..... and i belief many NEW Born kids or their newborns Will be kids living in a world of much suffer and etc
Even for very rich people kids, i think the world needs big changes to see it become Nice again, cause all day seeing suffering in all those places (even while your not there) is something hard to always see or hear about

But but when you live @denmark or what was it ? And still live their Then what are you talking about to flee while your not doing it

Act first how you think Then tell others to do the same Roll Eyes (and where are you gonna go to.....? If you ever flee?)

This question has been keeping me busy for a while, as there seems to be no simple answer.



1514. Post 50138977 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Syke on March 12, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
So, predictions. If I am correct that all the social ills and psychological and behavioral problems of our time is primarily caused by overpopulation and life being too easy for generations at a time, then there are only a very small number of possible future outcomes.

The first one that a lot of people will probably jump to is that we simply wait for the boomers to die and then everything will be fine after that. Not going to happen. Things always change, and always towards the left over time.

Population growth has slowed and reversed in many countries.

https://aleteia.org/2019/01/17/american-fertility-rate-plummets-to-below-replacement-level/

I'm less worried about population than I am about "life being too easy for generations at a time". There have always been times of great problems out of which the most prosperous and decadent civilizations arose. Ease of life then appears to lead to less resilience and increase in arrogance (hi Toxic), which leads to dumb solutions to problems that may or may not even exist. And then things inevitably end up going south once a critical mass of stupidity, laziness, ignorance and arrogance is reached.

If technology progresses fast enough, then a tiny subset of people might be able to save us by employing it to find solutions. But right now, the problem people are trying to tear down those that create solutions by being retarded entitled arrogant ignorant brats. If humanity falls it'll be because of those who seek to take power from those that create and funneling it to those that consume. Consumer drones can't create, they've never even created a sandwich. But they're the loudest and increasingly outnumber the rest.



1515. Post 50139017 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Syke on March 13, 2019, 02:49:10 AM
Billionaires repeatedly put their money at stake for returns. "Everyone" else is staking their money on iPhones. So fuck off you filthy thief.

Billionaires don't create wealth. They hire people to create wealth and then underpay them. That underpayment gap has become obscene.
Billionaires take on the risk of hiring people at potentially no return. People who get hired take a risk free paycheck home.

The smart ones choose to invest their paycheck, or at least parts of it, and become the Millionaires and Billionaires of the future.

The rest uses it to fuel their consumption and then complain about those that chose delayed gratification over instant gratification.


The only obscenity is people with zero foresight trying to blame those with foresight for their decisions.



1516. Post 50139021 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 13, 2019, 03:59:12 AM
All you do is attack again and claiming that I'm not being objective. It is you projecting your own evil character into my posts. You are naive. So naive that it distorts your perception of reality. And as a result you're a force of evil.

You haven't even quoted the literal scientific paper from a peer reviewed scientific journal that I've provided and keep attacking my person. And then you call me non-objective. You are literally the problem until you stop attacking and start discussing on neutral grounds. You're too deluded and emotional to even realize that I am not taking any sides you colossal fucking cunt. Your name is clearly a self-descriptor.

Or maybe you're just too fucking old and used up to understand how to look at problems without appealing to authority. You fucking pawn.


P.S. If you were actually objective you would've seen that I never denied climate change in any of my posts. I've even provided a fucking paper that shows evidence for climate change you fucking retard. So yes, you absolutely are the problem. Your laziness and intellectual dishonesty is the source of all evil and problems in this world. (By your I'm grouping you with all the morons that act the way you do.)

Why dont you tell me how you really feel? The problems I suspected go much deeper than I thought. Good bye.
I feel perfectly fine, happy and content. You obviously do not, as you are attacking me again and ignoring the fact that I have directly disproven your claims against me. Anybody with a brain can see that you are projecting and unwilling to even think about serious problems. You're a projecting drone, no more no less.

By the way, I don't particularly care about the outcomes. I'm mostly convinced that we're heading into a life of abundance. But if we all disappear because of idiots like you that's fine by me. You reap what you sow.



1517. Post 50139049 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 13, 2019, 02:57:21 AM
Want to share this for everyone. This is really good for risk management.
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Concept is OK, but % wise I would never use these numbers as they are skewed toward less quality.
I only invest in what interests me.

This is generally a good idea because you'll be more willing to do thorough research and gain a deeper understanding of things that you are interested in. Which leads to better investment decisions. Of course as long as you don't get carried away by hype.

The general idea is good though. Even if you hate altcoins, by trying to pick some with a small allocation of your portfolio you'll learn more about the space by immersion.



1518. Post 50139085 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 13, 2019, 03:09:09 AM
Billionaires repeatedly put their money at stake for returns. "Everyone" else is staking their money on iPhones. So fuck off you filthy thief.

Billionaires don't create wealth. They hire people to create wealth and then underpay them. That underpayment gap has become obscene.

Smarter billionaires are starting to realize that they need non-pauperized public/middle class to sell the products to. This is how they make their money, mostly.
If everyone is poor, except a small %, then there is no mass market.
The question is how to get from here to there.

A peaceful small redistribution (not 70% of course, could be 1%) is much much better (as a principle, not in practice) than something worse, although I have NO trust in any politician and don't see anyone with enough 'balls" to pull this off.
The alternative is much darker, and I am not talking about riots, but a possibility of Homo sapiens subspecies emerging, "Citadels", etc.
A split between super- and sub-humans. Once it is partially genetic, there would be no passage back.

I am currently reading the third Harari's book (21 lessons for the 21st century), which touches on these topics and this book is much better than the second one (first was good too).
I believe that data might end up redistributing some of the wealth.

The first company that comes along and allows people to monetize their own data will displace Google & co. And it will provide people with some semblance of income. While right now this might not be enough to live off of, it could realistically get to a point where it will. After all, costs are on an exponential down trend.

The big exception (for necessities) is living space, but that's because people cluster around overpopulated areas rather than trying to live in places where housing is affordable for them.

Once technology allows more efficient distribution of resources this would probably change too though, and people would start decentralizing more. I mean, who wants to live in a tiny flat if they can live in a nice house out in the green?



Edit: Another thing. There's an increase in the number of people who make a living off of platforms like Patreon. Whoever has a passion to share with the world will also be increasingly likely to have a steady income based off of that. We don't need governments to steal our money and redistribute it for us. That will lead to war or capital flight.



1519. Post 50139414 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: GreatArkansas on March 13, 2019, 04:47:03 AM
Where I can find the 'hat' avatar rules things?

To wear the hat, one must earn the hat.

To earn the hat, one must become the hat.


Hahahaha. I still can't understand, how to become the hat then?
Ask Papa John's to make you one with everything.




Or kindly ask our mad hatter xhomerx.



1520. Post 50139618 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Dogboy714 on March 13, 2019, 05:00:00 AM
But why? How is it being used?
To learn how to use it. And to establish reputation for the future. Both of which imply a chance for passive income down the road.



1521. Post 50140143 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 13, 2019, 05:56:08 AM
There's really no such thing as "passive income." There's legitimate income and then there's income from scams, like MLMs and Ponzis. With investing and lending you still need to exercise extreme diligence in order to make a profit, so I wouldn't call those "passive" either.

The whole point of using Lightning is that its faster and cheaper than on-chain transactions. If you set your channel fee too high people will bypass it and you will make less income than you did by setting a low fee. If the cost of doing a lightning transaction supersedes that of an on-chain transaction, people will simply revert to transacting on-chain.

Also, its not overly simple to set up and maintain your own lightning node (though it is a lot easier today than it used to be). Maintaining a consistent internet connection, having to pay for that and the electricity of running your computer also need to be factored into the overall cost.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 13, 2019, 05:46:08 AM
I agree with you, BTCMILLIONAIRE, that lightning network is in a kind of practice stage, which means learning and building more tools and experimenting, and of course, if more and more tools are developed, then income opportunities will develop as well.

On the other hand, I doubt that such lightning network income is anywhere close to achieving passive income status (even though that does seem to be a reasonable long term goal).  The mere concept of "passive income" means that you earn money with little to no work, and from what I can tell, there are a lot of true believers involved in lightning network, and therefore, seem to be putting in way more work than what is likely to pay off for them on any kind of personal financial level.  In other words, even though failure of lightning network would not be failure of bitcoin, but overall success of lighting network causes the Bitcoin network as a whole to become more valuable, as well as those lil tokens that we endearingly we refer to as corn.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
While accurate, I would consider the part after the completion of my due diligence process at least mostly passive. Some re-evaluation might be prudent every so many weeks, months, years depending on maturity. But it's different from the rat race of trading or working.
Basically, you create a slope and a ball and then bring the ball up. Then watch the ball as it rolls down. But if you built an elevator all you'll have to do in the future is to put the ball in and press a button. At least for as long as the mechanics don't wear down. So while not 100% passive, for all practical purposes passive income exists if you're smart about it.


Also, as LN matures there will be ways to automate data collection and adjustments of fee structure. The ramp-up takes work, but in the long run it's mostly passive once the work has been put in. At least if you work towards making it passive. And yes, it's nowhere close to passive income and likely won't be for years. But the groundwork is being laid.



1522. Post 50140283 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 13, 2019, 06:31:46 AM
LN worries me, the ship heels to centralize too much, or am I not distinguishing the future LN correctly?
 Shocked
LN brings efficiency and mass adoption as an additional layer on top of the choice of decentralization. The latter is currently not really possible in any sensible way. And even with LN, Bitcoin remains capped, so no more printing press to steal money from workers through inflation.



1523. Post 50140835 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 13, 2019, 07:11:14 AM
(fair points)

Fair point. I just have a personal aversion to the term as its usually associated with "get rich quick" schemes on the forum.
The WO does not reflect the rest of the forum in any way. While some moonbois get lost here from time to time, people are generally more sensible over here. Although some will be missing out by believing that Bitcoin is the only thing with real future value, which would be equivalent to picking a single website and claiming that all others are and always will be shit-sites during the dot com bubble. Bitcoin is the revolution, but blockchain is still carving out a new era regardless.



1524. Post 50140858 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 13, 2019, 07:25:31 AM
So, predictions. If I am correct that all the social ills and psychological and behavioral problems of our time is primarily caused by overpopulation and life being too easy for generations at a time, then there are only a very small number of possible future outcomes.

The first one that a lot of people will probably jump to is that we simply wait for the boomers to die and then everything will be fine after that. Not going to happen. Things always change, and always towards the left over time.

Other than that, the only option is a violent reduction in numbers. War, pestilence or famine. Given the current understanding of the amygdala, war is most likely to come in the form of a soviet-style collapse. The states will continue to become ever more tyrannical until we have an economic collapse, which will result in lowered food production and a lot of dead people.

So if soviet conditions are the most likely near-future outcome, what to do about it?

Flee. Simple as that. If you stay, odds are you will be locked up or have all your property stolen or simply end up shot. Let the disease burn itself out, and when the rebuilding begins in 10-30 years it might be time to come back if you feel like it by then. But staying through it is simply too dangerous and there is no reward.


On a side note, I have gained a new appreciation for the importance and role of religion during these studies. Maybe a topic for another time.
While I might agree that reduction of populations could be one solution, I'm not convinced it needs to be war, famine and disease that does it. What if the other option included wealth and education redistribution which ultimately resulted in the same. (John Calhoun's rat experiment) A voluntary or subconscious participation in depopulation could leave our hard fought infrastructure intact where war likely would not.
The constant threat of war plays an important role in our eventual decision to choose another option but failing this, war is ready.
I choose plan BTC
Humans don't act based on logic and facts and numbers. The few who do are the weirdos, the freaks of nature. Humans as a whole act based on subconscious programming. This is not something we can reason our way out of.
This is true. However, if you become aware of this you can turn yourself into one as well and thus expand your possibilities. After all, everything that holds us back is the result of adaption to environment encoded in genetics and materializing in habits so to speak. If you understand this you can actively work on breaking those habits and replacing them with new ones that are more fit for our times and your personal situation. Of course that's a major pain in the ass and not necessarily worth it on an individual basis, especially for those who are already well off.



1525. Post 50141089 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 13, 2019, 07:55:55 AM
This is true. However, if you become aware of this you can turn yourself into one as well and thus expand your possibilities. After all, everything that holds us back is the result of adaption to environment encoded in genetics and materializing in habits so to speak. If you understand this you can actively work on breaking those habits and replacing them with new ones that are more fit for our times and your personal situation. Of course that's a major pain in the ass and not necessarily worth it on an individual basis, especially for those who are already well off.
The problem is that it appears to require a large amygdala in order for critical thought to be possible. As in, physically possible. And it only develops under certain environmental conditions which, for the most part do not exist today. How do you physically alter the brains of millions of people?
With psychedelic drugs. They have been shown to promote neurogenesis as well as to create new connection between neurons. The effect is the strongest while the substance is in the body, but after-effects remain. Of course, research on this is way behind thanks to our precious governments protecting us.

Another option is technology, namely the kind of stuff Musk is trying to create with Neuralink. But that's still god knows how long away.


Do you know any papers on the amygdala claim by the way? Sounds interesting and would explain why some people can't be reasoned with even if you're being extra nice.



1526. Post 50141181 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Also regarding the "life too easy" argument.

I don't think that you necessarily need to encounter extreme "bad" hardship to become capable and a net positive on society as opposed to being a drain. It would probably be enough if there were sufficient incentives in place to periodically push yourself beyond your current limits.

The key element here is overcoming challenges that appear "too big" or even impossible. Going through such of any type is a humbling and rewarding experience and you learn to be much more open-minded.

You can generally tell if a person has accomplished anything (even just being really good at a 'useless' game) based on how they interact with others (over prolonged periods of time, everybody has bad days). Those that never pushed themselves make conclusions. The others question and are willing to learn.
And the more such hardships one conquers the stronger the effect becomes.

But when everything is thrown your way and you don't have to try you just assume that you're perfect, after all everything is going well. Similarly, people who have shitty lives but have a constant voice telling them it's not their fault won't push themselves either and then repeatedly make conclusions as opposed to looking for new ways forward. In arguments this translates to fighting as opposed to looking for unknown variables with the opponent (opponent in the sense of the person opposite of you, not in the sense of an enemy - someone throw me an English word for this please).



1527. Post 50142063 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 13, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
This is true. However, if you become aware of this you can turn yourself into one as well and thus expand your possibilities. After all, everything that holds us back is the result of adaption to environment encoded in genetics and materializing in habits so to speak. If you understand this you can actively work on breaking those habits and replacing them with new ones that are more fit for our times and your personal situation. Of course that's a major pain in the ass and not necessarily worth it on an individual basis, especially for those who are already well off.
The problem is that it appears to require a large amygdala in order for critical thought to be possible. As in, physically possible. And it only develops under certain environmental conditions which, for the most part do not exist today. How do you physically alter the brains of millions of people?
With psychedelic drugs. They have been shown to promote neurogenesis as well as to create new connection between neurons. The effect is the strongest while the substance is in the body, but after-effects remain. Of course, research on this is way behind thanks to our precious governments protecting us.

Another option is technology, namely the kind of stuff Musk is trying to create with Neuralink. But that's still god knows how long away.


Do you know any papers on the amygdala claim by the way? Sounds interesting and would explain why some people can't be reasoned with even if you're being extra nice.
How do you realistically do it today?

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/

Also there are vids on youtube, search for r/K theory. This might be a good start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU
Was worried about the link at first, but it actually makes reference to peer reviewed studies. Would merit, but out and you're already legendary.



1528. Post 50142164 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 13, 2019, 08:40:55 AM
Also, there is something called the triune brain theory. It states that the brain can be thought of as three different systems that developed over time throughout evolution. The oldest part is what we call the lizard brain, it contains all the automatic functions that are required to stay alive. Blood pressure, heartbeat, breathing, rapid fight or flight responses, hormonal adjustments, terribly boring stuff but vital. We don't care about this part.

The next part is the limbic system, what we commonly call the subconscious part of the brain. It contains emotions and instincts. Everything that makes humans different from other animals, our essential core personality. And it still works the same way it did before we fucked up and invented agriculture, which is why people do so many dumb things that make no sense in a modern context.

The newest system is the thinking part of the brain. It deals with numbers, cause and effect, anything that requires conscious thought. It can reprogram the subconscious which is how we learn things. It is also extremely slow and energy intensive compared to the emotional part of the brain, which is why most people do not use it unless absolutely required. It is not fully developed before the age of about 25, which helps to explain teenagers.

NPCs use primarily the emotional part of the brain. They don't think, they just feel. They carry out automatic scripts.

What I have observed is that high-amygdala people use the thinking part of the brain more. I believe it has to do with a heightened sense of danger, which prompts us to develop new and better modes of operation because the ones we have are obviously not sufficient. Small-amygdala people do not see the coming dangers. They are physically incapable of perceiving them. I have yet to see a serious study look into this connection, but I would bet money on it being correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg6XUYWj-pk


I'm not sure what the fuck my amygdala looks like, but I think almost exclusively and when I notice emotions I take note of them, where they come from, and then decide whether there was substance to the cause of the impulse or not. If there was I take note to adjust my behaviour in the future, otherwise I just stop being upset immediately and laugh off the stupidity of the impulse.

I don't know if I really look out for danger (subconsciously) though, I just really enjoy trying to identify all aspects of cause and effect for just about anything. It's literally like playing games or solving puzzles to me, which I consider entertaining. I generally don't feel threatened by any of the potential doomsday scenarios either, they're just part of the intriguing game of life to me.


NPCs are definitely a thing though. Always had a hunch that something was "odd" about some people (who consider me just as odd I suppose) but it's interesting to see that there are actual studies on this. Taking offense to anything is just the dumbest concept imaginable for me, although the impulse makes sense given our previous exposure to predators.



1529. Post 50142222 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 13, 2019, 09:34:40 AM
My current market position is 98.2% cold, long term Bitcoin.  1.8% cash.*  

Deep dark purple all the way through the crypto-winter bottom.  Might start picking up some market risk when we get a golden cross on the 50 / 100 Weekly MA.  

*excludes non-crypto assets


Edit: forgot a small short at $3390 which I have mentally written off and 0.012 BTC that V8 owes me.  
Given that you traded technicals quite successfully on the way down. How come you don't use 1-5-10% of your corn stash to trade shit coins? They're doing fairly obvious movements right now that you should easily be able to scalp to increase your BTC stash with fairly low risk given tight SLs.



1530. Post 50142445 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 13, 2019, 09:39:30 AM
Everything in the book is referenced. Part of why it caught on probably, the science behind it is solid.

He also has a second book that deals specifically with narcissists (to my understanding, a result of a small amygdala plus environment - look up Sam Vaknin on youtube for more). That one is without references, but it is perhaps the best book on the topic to date.

Both of them are free if you drop an email, it's how I got them initially.
Good to know, will send them a mail and read through sometime.



1531. Post 50144161 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 13, 2019, 10:43:58 AM
My current market position is 98.2% cold, long term Bitcoin.  1.8% cash.*  

Deep dark purple all the way through the crypto-winter bottom.  Might start picking up some market risk when we get a golden cross on the 50 / 100 Weekly MA.  

*excludes non-crypto assets


Edit: forgot a small short at $3390 which I have mentally written off and 0.012 BTC that V8 owes me.  
Given that you traded technicals quite successfully on the way down. How come you don't use 1-5-10% of your corn stash to trade shit coins? They're doing fairly obvious movements right now that you should easily be able to scalp to increase your BTC stash with fairly low risk given tight SLs.

Good question which I sometimes ask myself.  Unfortunately I have zero respect for shitcoins which taints my judgement. Also just don’t have time to invest in them.  Such is the life of a min / maxer.  

I have some grudging respect for Grin which I am following but the chart looks like a diseased dick and no way to short it that I am aware of. 
Given I don't know about your situation regarding time and whatnot I'll just simply like to ask.

Since you suggest that those in a position to do so should help others, wouldn't it be a sensible move to invest your time into fleecing the shitcoin moonbois and then using the profits for the greater good? Even if it means dealing with the shitcoins that you have no respect for?



1532. Post 50144178 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

My LG V40 just came and boy does it sound nice.

Should any audiophiles be hanging around these forums, I can not recommend this phone enough.



1533. Post 50144308 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 13, 2019, 11:59:26 AM
The verdict on Karpelès case will be known on Friday :

https://www.ccn.com/mark-karpeles-bitcoin-embezzlement-verdict-friday-10-years-prison

Quote
KARPELÈS FACES TEN YEARS IN JAIL, 99% CONVICTION RATE

Japanese prison is no joke. Lots of military marching.  He won’t be a fat fuck when he gets out.
Yeah I doubt it was worth it for him even if he comes out as a Billionaire. Did he manage to stash any coins away? lol



1534. Post 50144638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: serveria.com on March 13, 2019, 01:08:01 PM
Ummm these girls don’t look 18 to me



Where boobs?  Huh

Dat ass tho
The BSV dude? Probably.



1535. Post 50153023 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 13, 2019, 03:18:27 PM
Relevance to my observation that dishonest and dishonorable opponents are once again using falsehoods to try to taint a coin by association? None.

Your relentless defensiveness and apologism for creepy people and aspects of things you have no influence over is really bleedin' weird.

It is not a defense of people. It is in defense of my preferred blockchain. Are you so dull as to not see that? (I rather doubt it). Are you going to tell me that the intent of the post to which I replied was not to besmirch SV? Ayre is not SV, and SV is not Ayre. Ayre is neither the CEO of BSV. Such is a lie. Why do you defend a lie? Defense of lies is reprehensible. Defense of the truth is not. Casting aspersions upon those defending the truth is 'creepy'. Not to mention reprehensible.
Agree on this. And I don't own and never will own any SV unless it's the last usable currency on earth and the only way for me to participate in the economy.


By the way, even if BSV was technologically superior, which I can not adequately judge (I don't give a shit about TB blocks from a hardware side because our internet will soon be fast enough and our storage hardware will become efficient enough to facilitate it anyways, it'll be like downloading a text file in the 56k era at best), I would never touch BSV precisely because of the shady people pushing so hard for it.



1536. Post 50153342 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 13, 2019, 11:58:04 PM

#strongpaws

Geeze you nailed me. Gato negro.

I've always had a soft spot for black cats. My favorite kitty in Mexico is una gato negra. Sweet as sugar and an expert huntress.

I get good luck from black cats, just like from the number 13. Everything in nature balances, so I figure there are so many people drawing bad luck from black cats and 13 that there's an excess of good luck to be harvested.

Life is good.
I can not wait until our data processing methods are advanced enough to make studies on such esoteric assertions.

Certainly could have some merit given that one of the fundamental laws of Physics asserts that every force comes with an opposing force of equal magnitude. And given the seemingly fractal nature of the universe (as evidenced by homogeneity, and the way networks form on every scale - e.g. neurons, clusters of matter, the central nervous system etc.) it would not be far fetched to assume that these laws might apply on other scales and structures as well, such as the network of nodes (entities) with good and bad luck. We're still decades away from being able to even collect, sort and process that sort of data accurately though. Never mind analyzing it.



1537. Post 50153353 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 14, 2019, 12:29:03 AM
Hahahaha. I still can't understand, how to become the hat then?
Ask Papa John's to make you one with everything.
Or kindly ask our mad hatter xhomerx.
Papa John's and mad hatter xhomerx, please help me to create my own unique 'hat' with bitcoin/cat/dog theme.  Grin

Papa John's is a pizza joint in US, lol

In other news:

why captcha became so f-ed up around here?
it cannot properly recognize either the bus or a fire hydrant.
is someone/something messing with it?
I've been wondering about that. There's no way it can be that shitty when AI pretty much obliterates entire teams of human players in the most complex games available.



1538. Post 50153399 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Dogboy714 on March 14, 2019, 04:31:41 AM
Drunk thought of the day - what if this time around the buyers were forced to capitulate! Oh shit - it keeps going up from that not-a-capitulation low!!!
Then I'll have more BTC down the road. Bring it on.



1539. Post 50153525 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 14, 2019, 04:51:17 AM
They like Blockchain but Bitcoin... Tongue


Maybe if they were honest they wouldn't get displaced. But I guess we will never learn from history.



1540. Post 50153632 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 14, 2019, 04:56:45 AM
Relevance to my observation that dishonest and dishonorable opponents are once again using falsehoods to try to taint a coin by association? None.

Your relentless defensiveness and apologism for creepy people and aspects of things you have no influence over is really bleedin' weird.

It is not a defense of people. It is in defense of my preferred blockchain. Are you so dull as to not see that? (I rather doubt it). Are you going to tell me that the intent of the post to which I replied was not to besmirch SV? Ayre is not SV, and SV is not Ayre. Ayre is neither the CEO of BSV. Such is a lie. Why do you defend a lie? Defense of lies is reprehensible. Defense of the truth is not. Casting aspersions upon those defending the truth is 'creepy'. Not to mention reprehensible.

Unintentionally appear to have hit a sore spot
It appears to me that some people in this thread are projecting a little too much.

JBreher seems to me to be one of the few people in here who can have arguments without getting emotional. I certainly don't agree with him on the BTC vs BSV matter, and likely on many other issues. But he sure seems like a person that is worth talking to, as he's clearly capable of keeping an open mind without acting as if - or even worse, believing that - everybody who brings up points he doesn't like is his enemy.



1541. Post 50153645 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 14, 2019, 05:02:05 AM
You do know it's about to go ripping up?

We could have made 0.1% by now
x80



1542. Post 50153654 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2019, 05:08:54 AM
They like Blockchain but Bitcoin... Tongue




Boring!!!!!!!!  Such an old talking-point.  Can't they be, at least, a little bit more creative and come up with something half-way new and interesting?
If they could they wouldn't have to use misinformation tactics in their attempt of maintaining power. Smiley



1543. Post 50153961 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2019, 05:39:34 AM
Relevance to my observation that dishonest and dishonorable opponents are once again using falsehoods to try to taint a coin by association? None.

Your relentless defensiveness and apologism for creepy people and aspects of things you have no influence over is really bleedin' weird.

It is not a defense of people. It is in defense of my preferred blockchain. Are you so dull as to not see that? (I rather doubt it). Are you going to tell me that the intent of the post to which I replied was not to besmirch SV? Ayre is not SV, and SV is not Ayre. Ayre is neither the CEO of BSV. Such is a lie. Why do you defend a lie? Defense of lies is reprehensible. Defense of the truth is not. Casting aspersions upon those defending the truth is 'creepy'. Not to mention reprehensible.

Unintentionally appear to have hit a sore spot
It appears to me that some people in this thread are projecting a little too much.

JBreher seems to me to be one of the few people in here who can have arguments without getting emotional. I certainly don't agree with him on the BTC vs BSV matter, and likely on many other issues. But he sure seems like a person that is worth talking to, as he's clearly capable of keeping an open mind without acting as if - or even worse, believing that - everybody who brings up points he doesn't like is his enemy.

So fucking what?  In 2014/15 Jstolfi participated in this thread a lot too, and he had good manners too, and he really did not deserve to be defended for his purported reasonable and trollish arguments against bitcoin.

Yeah, fair enough that jbreher does not devolve into too much emotions, but he is surely fair game for attack.. especially his ideas and approach that frequently could mislead folks.  

I will concede that every once in a while jbreher makes some decent points regarding investment style, planning and tactics and even sometimes (rarely) conceding that some bcash dynamics are not really going as well as anticipated, but he also is more than fair game - largely for his ideas, not whether he is a good person or not.... Actually, I will also concede that I would rather sit down and argue with him over a beer regarding his dumb ideas than some other members who might be pro-bitcoin, yet unable to control their emotions or to control when their ideas get attacked... so that is definitely a sign of jbreher's maturity in that regard (even if he might be a grandpa bot with bad circuits).. but again, his stupid ass ideas of defending bcash and BIG BLOCKERS are more than fair game as a constant justification to denigrate him, rather than putting him on a pedestal.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I'm not talking about manners here. I don't fucking care what kind of fucking language use or how you fucking act while presenting an argument. It's about people putting truth behind emotional horseshit and tribalism. But I suppose I might be in the minority when saying that truth should be the one thing humans should never compromise on, unless it is to literally save their lives. Although you appear to be in the same boat based on the fact that you seem to not rule out sitting down with JB over his opposing stances.



1544. Post 50153979 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 14, 2019, 05:53:35 AM

Dont worry..there is a possibility we A) have already done this or B) get a chance to do it all again. Conjugation, Booleans, Hamiltonians and Symmetry oh my...

Arrow of Time and its Reversal on IBM Quantum Computer.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.10057.pdf

Sheeit, you kids think you got problems now with block sizes, bandwidth and data migration...just wait until we have to store and reconstruct temporal timelines.


I see your "five" and raise you "ten": "there is no single objective reality"
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613092/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/
Should be self-evident when looking at literally any conversation. Also what I have been saying for a long fucking time. Schools brainwash people into thinking there is such a thing as an "objective reality", when that is merely a useful tool or approach when looking for solutions.

Also why I keep nitpicking on virtually every topic, and certainly not because I want our wildlife to get wiped out as some twits here keep pretending.



1545. Post 50153991 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 14, 2019, 05:58:13 AM

Dont worry..there is a possibility we A) have already done this or B) get a chance to do it all again. Conjugation, Booleans, Hamiltonians and Symmetry oh my...

Arrow of Time and its Reversal on IBM Quantum Computer.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.10057.pdf

Sheeit, you kids think you got problems now with block sizes, bandwidth and data migration...just wait until we have to store and reconstruct temporal timelines.


I see your "five" and raise you "ten": "there is no single objective reality"
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613092/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/

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They use these six entangled photons to create two alternate realities—one representing Wigner and one representing Wigner’s friend. Wigner’s friend measures the polarization of a photon and stores the result. Wigner then performs an interference measurement to determine if the measurement and the photon are in a superposition.

The experiment produces an unambiguous result. It turns out that both realities can coexist even though they produce irreconcilable outcomes, just as Wigner predicted.


Could be used in an argument with a spouse/gf? ....Nah.

Hah!  Indeed, its funny you brought this up...I was going to whip it out during that little spat I was having with btcmillionaire. I demand Wigner testing!
You sure should bring that up. Because you act as if you found "the" truth by personally attacking me. I'm literally establishing that we don't have found any such thing and that we should keep looking for all aspects of the problem to better understand the situation.



1546. Post 50154117 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 14, 2019, 06:14:00 AM
They like Blockchain but Bitcoin... Tongue



They don't like bitcoin because they think it should be called "money" only if there is a central bank printing it.

If a CB acknowledged btc as money, it would be like signing their own death certificate.
I wish we could just let them have the term "money". And then laugh at them for being so antiquated. But I suppose money used to have value when it was backed by something other than promises, so can't really spin up that route.



1547. Post 50154287 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2019, 06:17:08 AM
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I'm not talking about manners here. I don't fucking care what kind of fucking language use or how you fucking act while presenting an argument.

Hahahahhaha

Did you get enough "fuck(s)" in there to make your point?

It's about people putting truth behind emotional horseshit and tribalism.

Sounds like you are getting emotional yourself about a certain kind of style.  I was attempting to talk about jbreher's substance, and I guess I was kind of agreeing with you that he is likeable... but I completely agree that jbreher is worhty to be attacked (because of his ideas and even if sometimes some of the attacks go overboard or are not fair)...  Anyhow, I have not seen too many attacks against jbreher that have gone too far... Not yet, anyhow... unless you want to point out an example of an attack against jbreher that went too far or that he did not deserve.
Like I said, I don't care about the medium of delivery.
Flowery words to me are no more than a different language that employs words of other languages. Fucking = very, retarded = mindless. I personally prefer using strong language because I've grown up in that kind of environment, so sticking with it reduces friction of communication for me.
I use it with a smile on my face, unless some dumbass is in front of me that would get physical because his tiny dick would fall off otherwise. Or in professional settings. Obviously not going to go around swearing around professors, except for the two that swear along with me. And in some situations strong language is simply the way to go, namely when an objective debate can't be had because you're being attacked. Then you need to flat out obliterate the idiot to make sure that at least the environment picks up on their lack of rationality and composure.

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I will agree that there is a certain value to truth and genuineness, and jbreher is actually guilty of being disingenuous more than any attacks that I have seen against him.   Furthermore, your seeming attempt to cling onto "truth," and to suggest that some attacks against jbreher are not valid because they are not sufficiently true is coming off as way too abstract to my thinking.  By the way, in 2014 and 2015, purported professor jstolfi used to post in this thread about a lot of ideas and pie in the sky speculations that contained a lot of truths, too, but he was still a fucking relentless troll that camouflaged his bullshit with politeness, academic posturing and misleading by outlining scenarios that had about a snowflake's chance in hill of happening as if they were highly probable... which distracts and misleads people... . and also got real old and repetitious, even if there was some truth and politeness to his ongoing misleading bullshit posts.
I don't read every post in this thread, but I see him dealing with the same issue I do in some of the debates here mainly because he's a believer in BCash. Namely people not listening and making up shit on either of our behalf and then derailing themselves from there while trying to claim some fictive moral high ground.

If I caught him making the same kind of argument and had the capacity to identify it as such I would at the very least think the same about his remarks as I've stated here. I simply don't know Bitcoin in-depth enough to make comparisons of the technological aspects, and neither do most of the people here who just repeat talking points. I'll gladly be the first to say that I support Bitcoin Core because of the type of people BCash mostly attracts. Jbreher appears to be a strange exception on this, so I am at least willing to concede that there might be some merit to his claims.

By the way. I would sit down with whatever people would generally be considered "deplorable" and have an argument (= discussion) with them if I knew that it'd be safe for me to do so. I like learning from people, even if I would celebrate their departure from earth in a casket (which really would take some Hitler or ISIS level idiot, or some child rapist or God knows what sort of menace).

If you can't talk to people you disagree with without just focusing on how you could somehow "get at them" or further your own agenda you clearly have no position worth defending or position that you're capable of defending and haven't learned a single damn thing from life. Such a person is just an infantile ape in an adult body.

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I agree with you on some aspects of what you are saying, but I don't really see jbreher being unfairly treated here.  Jbreher frequently defends his position, and is allowed to defend his position, even though a large number of members here will point out the various ways that they disagree with him... in other words, I think that he gets plenty of time, and I don't really agree with defending him as either some kind of victim or as if he is being treated unfairly... again, there might be some instances that you could point out, and I may agree, but no instances are coming to mind for me at this moment.
I couldn't care less about defending Jbreher, he can do that himself if he feels the need to. I'm merely talking about the fact that some people make up shit while acting as if they weren't.



1548. Post 50154302 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 14, 2019, 06:25:03 AM
You sure should bring that up. Because you act as if you found "the" truth by personally attacking me. I'm literally establishing that we don't have found any such thing and that we should keep looking for all aspects of the problem to better understand the situation.

hrmmm..   ...Nah.

Whilst I agree reluctantly with your premise..you personally paint too easy of a target and I choose not to resist my baser instincts.
You're the most delusional person I have talked to in a while. Are you deliberating or do you lack the level of self-control required to put reason over ego and emotion? Or perhaps you are one of those small amygdala cases Ibian provided me with sources for and simply aren't capable of seeing your own intellectual laziness, dishonesty and hypocrisy?

Sure doesn't seem like you have the capacity to resist any of your baser instincts, other than not throwing a rage fit and breaking your inventory perhaps.


P.S. The sheer fact that you "reluctantly" agree with "my" premise of keeping an open mind says everything that anyone would ever need to know about your current infantile mentality.



1549. Post 50154522 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 14, 2019, 06:53:50 AM

Dont worry..there is a possibility we A) have already done this or B) get a chance to do it all again. Conjugation, Booleans, Hamiltonians and Symmetry oh my...

Arrow of Time and its Reversal on IBM Quantum Computer.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.10057.pdf

Sheeit, you kids think you got problems now with block sizes, bandwidth and data migration...just wait until we have to store and reconstruct temporal timelines.


I see your "five" and raise you "ten": "there is no single objective reality"
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613092/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/
Should be self-evident when looking at literally any conversation. Also what I have been saying for a long fucking time. Schools brainwash people into thinking there is such a thing as an "objective reality", when that is merely a useful tool or approach when looking for solutions.

Also why I keep nitpicking on virtually every topic, and certainly not because I want our wildlife to get wiped out as some twits here keep pretending.

I don’t buy all this relativistic business.
2 + 2 = 4 and nothing anyone can say can convince that that is just my subjective experience.  
You learn in your first semester of Mathematics that once you define numbers rigorously 2 + 2 quickly becomes 0. They are called finite fields.



Edit: They are also a big part of the reason why you can type your comment in the first place. So whether I can convince you or not does not change the nature of reality.



1550. Post 50155088 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2019, 07:51:51 AM
I'm merely talking about the fact that some people make up shit while acting as if they weren't.

Huh?  I thought that we were talking about jbreher and his ideas.  Now you want to say it is about "some people" and that may be where I am getting lost, perhaps?


Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 14, 2019, 05:54:05 AM
It's about people putting truth behind emotional horseshit and tribalism.
And has been all along.

You got distracted with your wordy craft, which I then elaborated on. I'm probably going to respond to some aspects of your response later, but for now I need to grab some food among other stuff.



1551. Post 50158680 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 14, 2019, 01:44:00 PM

I'm not talking about manners here. I don't fucking care what kind of fucking language use or how you fucking act while presenting an argument. It's about people putting truth behind emotional horseshit and tribalism. But I suppose I might be in the minority when saying that truth should be the one thing humans should never compromise on, unless it is to literally save their lives.

There is a deep irony here.
Point it out and provide evidence or fuck off. Otherwise I assert that the only irony is you and Toxic being utterly incapable of doing anything other than flinging around ad hominems while trying to claim some moral high ground, which only you care about.



1552. Post 50158698 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 14, 2019, 08:40:28 AM
I don’t buy all this relativistic business.
2 + 2 = 4 and nothing anyone can say can convince that that is just my subjective experience.  
You learn in your first semester of Mathematics that once you define numbers rigorously 2 + 2 quickly becomes 0. They are called finite fields.



Edit: They are also a big part of the reason why you can type your comment in the first place. So whether I can convince you or not does not change the nature of reality.

First week of degree maths was prove or disprove why 1+1=2
It baffled me how non-trivial that was.



1553. Post 50159265 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on March 14, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
And down we go. Same as always.
orly



1554. Post 50160288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on March 14, 2019, 03:19:30 PM
Well, what more you could expect?

snip
https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1105762349397565440
I think I just figured something out.


Edit: Mission complete.



1555. Post 50160322 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: kenzawak on March 14, 2019, 03:35:58 PM
I didn't know pedo Ayre was the founder of coingeek.
Boycotting that site from now on.


Think it was Coingeek that hosted some BSV conference shilling for the government by stating how "Bitcoin" needs to grow up and get in bed with those that brainwash and steal from the masses?



1556. Post 50160657 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on March 14, 2019, 03:53:02 PM
I think I just figured something out.
What?

Quote from: jojo69 on March 14, 2019, 03:51:28 PM
redacted

ignored

NPCs will NPC.



1557. Post 50167536 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on March 14, 2019, 08:42:44 PM
Another bitcoin bull market is coming in 2019, says Fundstrat's Tom Lee

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/14/another-bitcoin-bull-market-is-coming-in-2019-fundstrats-tom-lee.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/david-stockman-rally-is-just-day-traders-chart-monkeys-crash-coming.html

Stock market capital flight into Bitcoin might get another shot soon.



1558. Post 50167555 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 14, 2019, 08:46:48 PM
Chickens 'gang up' to kill intruder fox on French farm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47551786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4oufdIOMc



1559. Post 50167661 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: kurious on March 14, 2019, 10:31:41 PM

You're so... certain.

Just curious.  But when did you lose your ability to self-doubt?
Probably never, as I at least feel like I'm doubting many aspects of my reasoning every day. This has been a habit since my early childhood, since it appears glaringly obvious that there are no simple answers. If you see certainty in my posts there's a chance that I either am certain with good reason or that you're interpreting too much.

Either way, in the post you've quoted the intended implication was that jojo is highly predictable, like an NPC. He did exactly what I hoped he would.


Now to oppose the common narrative in this thread.

HM stated earlier that nothing would convince him of the objective fact that "2+2 = 4". I posted evidence for the contrary, which he ignored.

If he was willing to self-doubt and open-minded he would've been interested in learning more about this without any goal of letting himself be convinced of anything, but unless he has been looking into it on his own off-thread it would imply a lack of self-doubt and open-mindedness on his side.

Similar behaviour can be observed in the climate discussions. If you can point out where people who repeatedly attack me provide evidence or establish points to look out for, as opposed to claiming facts they've read sometime somewhere, and where I fail to respond to that in an open-minded manner I'll be happy to elaborate on my reasoning or otherwise concede.

No hard feelings by the way (@HM, as you've clearly stopped getting personal lately), just trying to bring a point across. I'm not here to fight. But I'll play along if I'm being attacked for no rational reason and state the obvious for as long as nobody with reason can negate my stance (which I would actually welcome).



Also, just curious. But since when do you attack people with most likely more experience instead of trying to understand where they're coming from? Would you consider yourself superior to an athlete? No? Then why would you assume that someone who spent a life-time learning how to think objectively (Mathematics/Science/Philosophy) would be incapable of self-doubt? Or does ego get in the way when it comes to "thinking"? The ability to think is just like every other ability, it takes time to develop and nurture. And that can not be achieved with personal attacks and complete lack of willingness to engage in conversation.



1560. Post 50167724 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: kingcolex on March 14, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
Tether is probably a fractional reserve scheme, also they are now clearly saying that they use money to buy "other assets" than dollar and that (if I understand  well) they give loans to "affiliates".

That's pretty much a plain admission of scam to me. They are basically acting as a filthy bank, gambling your money for (their) profits.

Am I understanding well the significance of the statement?

Breaking news:  Tether is a shitcoin
Always has been, it's just one people for some fucking reason put their faith in when they really shouldn't have.
It has its uses and there are many stablecoins these days. Hedging between them can help you increase your profits while simultaneously keeping risk low. Whether or not people want to use it is of course up to them. I personally don't because I don't want to risk Bitcoin unexpectedly taking off regardless of technical indicators, but I would certainly have a larger stash now if I had used stablecoins.



1561. Post 50167812 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 02:55:51 AM
Mass shooting in New Zealand.  Multiple armed perps(??).  Attack on two mosques. Multiple fatalities recorded.  

Obviously terrorism.   Will see if reported as such. Bangladesh cricket team arriving by bus as attack commenced but drove off.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/14/asia/christchurch-mosque-shooting-intl/

Edit:  TVNZ reporter has seen shooter’s manifesto. Is White Supremacist madness with objective of inciting a race war and conflict over Second Amendment. 

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/live-mass-shooting-christchurch-mosque-police-respond-active-shooter-situation?variant=tb_v_1

Shooting was live streamed.  



This is obviously horrifying.  Possible that young children targeted.   I would ask that some of the more committed racists on this thread take the opportunity to reflect on our common humanity.  I would also ask that some of the bystanders to casual racism here take a stand against it.  And I don’t want to hear shitty stories about how you don’t like Muslims but wouldn’t shoot up a mosque.  If you encourage an atmosphere of racism, then you are part of the problem.
I would see the guy who did the shooting executed, among with other terrorists of any other creed. I would show zero lenience with people like the rapist who shared videos of his grotesque crimes on Instagram the other day either. And I think that dipshit was white if I recall correctly.

But the rest seems like an appeal to emotion. I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to publicly worry about a set of people with an increased associated - at least perceived - risk. Instigation to crime is one thing, and should be punishable under all circumstances to the full extent of the law (which in some cases may be far too lenient). But problems have to be properly analyzed or they'll take control over humanity, as opposed to humanity solving problems.

What would you say to Muslims who have left their faith whilst criticizing it by the way?


And in general, problems tend to get worse if you instigate or if you ignore them by not talking about them. The real issue we seem to have is that one side instigates (populist parties) while the other side tries to shove the problem under the carpet (left-wing) out of fear of losing voters by discussing the unpleasant aspects of the problems and worries that some people have.



1562. Post 50167861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 15, 2019, 03:49:28 AM
So that fat fuck is free (?) to roam around spying on people with Roger Ver for the USG hangout London Trust Media, owners of Private Internet Media and Freenode. https://www.cnet.com/news/mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-former-ceo-karpeles-lands-new-job/
Crime pays...

First thing, he's not fat any more.  The fish and rice diet in jail has served him well.

I'm actually glad he's out.  I have been very critical of Mark in the past, had a couple pretty hostile interactions with him on here back in the day, but I now believe that he was not malicious but simply in over his head.  I may be naive in that respect but it is my current belief.  

I also appreciate that he let the little fish swim out after the writing was on the wall.

Yeah, maybe you are being naive here.

Anyway.... What I want is *my* money back. I am way more pragmatic than I used to be in the past...

P.S.: What does being malicious mean? Intent? Do you think the scumbags that crashed the planes into the twin towers were malicious? They probably were convinced that they were fighting the "devil" and going to paradise for their "great" action.

Extreme comparison, I know...
Extremes usually are the most efficient way of getting a quick overview on a topic. They're the limit cases of what's possible and make it easier to sort out what's "in between". Also partially why that technique is used so often in Math and Physics.



1563. Post 50167896 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 15, 2019, 03:58:41 AM
If I offered you $1,000,000,000 would you:

- Permanently destroy your mental health?
- Give up one of your senses?
- Agree to never see your loved ones again?
- Give up laughter?
- Give up your memories?

Money is important but know its place,

You're already worth billions.

https://twitter.com/koroushak/status/1105982376847568898?s=21

I think I could live without smell or maybe even taste. Would need to deeply think about it... but since the offer isn't real I won't.

P.S.: Spoiler -> Roger Ver chose 1. Now we know.
I would forfeit one of my senses. Would have to check how food tastes without smell first to decide. But with a Billion there'd be a very real chance to live to and beyond a time where new senses can be created at will. One of which would surely compensate for smell, taste, or whatever. Nobody said I can't have a sense that is virtually identical to the sense I gave up for the Billion.

Also might consider agreeing to never seeing my loved ones again. It doesn't state that I permanently won't be able to do so. Agreements can be broken, and there's no clause that states that my Billion would be taken away after the fact.

Laughter seems irrelevant too if it doesn't take away the dopamine hit along with it.

And memories can be restored, which this poll doesn't forbid in any way.



1564. Post 50167956 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 06:05:45 AM
I would see the guy who did the shooting executed

I started reading this guy's supposed "manifesto" and so far I'm leaning towards it being some type of (((govt))) false flag.  It's completely impossible for this guy to know about any of these issues he's discussing in these 80 pages WITHOUT knowing the main group responsible pushing for white genocide by being flooded with 3rd world brown zombies is the Jew.  So far he hasn't even mentioned the Jews at all and ONLY talked about Muslims.

This is the Jewish moneychanger's main goal - a divide and conquer strategy - to try and get all these disparate groups to fight one another instead of focusing their attention where it belongs on things like the Jewish media and banks instead.
Could well be true. We've seen examples of this in the past.

But regardless of why he did it, he should be punished. And wasting tax money to sustain evil is against my beliefs, so execution would be my vote. I don't care how bad someone had it or what other reasons drove them into such crimes, once they choose to attack innocent people they've forfeited their human rights and should be removed from the gene pool.



1565. Post 50167982 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 15, 2019, 04:41:46 AM
My crack about Calvin Ayre being CEO of BSV was a crack at Ricky Falconwings calling himself CEO of Bcash.  

Inability to detect sarcasm -- even when in clear use of driving home a point -- duly noted.

Certainly BSV is sinking faster than a 737 Max.

*sigh* 'tis true. only up four bucks 'merkin since the start of February.

Wait... what!?
Seems like it's up in terms of dollars due to BTC appreciating, while being down in terms of BTC. Only took a quick glance on CMC though, so room for error here.



1566. Post 50168136 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 05:39:11 AM
Actually you might have persuaded me that 2 + 2 doesn’t necessarily equal 4.  You might have gotten me there.

I haven’t responded because I am still thinking about it.  To your point, it’s not a topic I know a lot about.
Yes that's what I assumed, since you seem like a generally curious person.


In case you care about the intuition, imagine numbers on a circle. If you have {0,1,2,3} and align them on a circle, the next number after 3 is a 0. Now when you use the usual operations of a field (multiplication or addition) you have to stay within that set of numbers. So by adding 2 to 2 you move two to the right of 2 and end up back at 0. This is also the Mathematics behind Boolean Algebras, and thus the basis of computation (where the set of numbers is just {0,1}).
It goes deeper than that if you want to know why it's not exactly just some randomly made up system and why it's natural, but that would require study of the abstract rules and the elements required to create any number system.

For people who reject the idea of "infinity" in practical reality these finite fields are far more real than "1+1=2" ones, as those are by definition infinite. This information should bring anyone to pause and ponder over reality, it sure broke many conceptions I previously had for me.


The big take-away for me was, from a philosophical point of view, that no matter how obvious something seems, as soon as you take a potentially arbitrarily small step to the side your perspective can change dramatically.

It helps me to think about "knowledge" and "truth" as a place in some abstract space. Sometimes what appears obvious may be a mountain, but once I move a step to the side I can see behind it and everything changes dramatically, despite looking from virtually the same starting point.


This I suspect, is fundamentally why humans have such widely opposing opinions on seemingly obvious topics. And it's also why I try to balance out any conversation by proposing the opposite view or other different approaches.

I don't care about convincing anyone, I'm well aware that in the majority of cases that isn't possible. But if some bystanders take away something from the interaction I feel it was worth it. And if not, then I thought about new things that I might not have otherwise.



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Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 05:40:16 AM
Here comes the CNBC Signal. Short now?  Grin Grin

https://i.imgur.com/kEY35ki.png

I like how CNBC tries to spin that a 5% gain for the year on bitcoin is an awesome reward for holding a high risk "asset" that can literally go to zero at any second from a random cryptography bug or side channel, or just completely implode naturally since it's entire valuation is based on nothing but market manipulation.
Annual returns aren't particularly interesting when it comes to investments. The expected (= "projected average") value is what matters. And in the case of Bitcoin, regardless of whether or not it crashes to zero, is strictly positive.



1568. Post 50168656 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 06:35:58 AM
Ok work with me here.  How do we achieve the assumption that numbers are a finite field?

Feel free to refer me to beginner level reading to save you typing it all out.
As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.


Assumptions are created out of more or less thin air. Generally based on past experiences (I'm not sure if we can arrive at any assumption without making references to previous ones, which is a problem in and of itself). It's also not exactly that numbers "are" a finite field, they can be depending on how many you have to play with. The numbers we usually use are not a finite field, you always have a unique "+1". However.


In the case of finite fields, if you want to go from the "human experience" side you could think of it like this.

If you think that infinity exists, then there's not much reason to argue here since you can just keep adding numbers and always get a unique new one, so 1+1 will always be 2 in that world.

If you however believe that infinity can't exist in reality, then the only conclusion is that any field of numbers must be finite, because you'll eventually run out. And in that world you eventually come full circle, otherwise you can't have a number field that functions in the way we understand numbers. It is the only way to formalize our natural understanding of numbers (that I am currently aware of).


As for what fields are, here's a very brief overview that leaves out a fair deal of the gritty parts that are necessary to formalize this. But this should hopefully give somewhat of a more formal intuition that you could compare against our natural intuition.

A field can be any set of numbers that satisfies a few properties. The most important ones for the topic we're having are the existence of a set of elements (or numbers), the existence of two operations (e.g. addition and multiplication), the existence of a neutral element for each operation, and the existence of an inverse element for each operation.

Let's take {0,1} as the set of numbers. And addition and multiplication as its two operations. The operation "o" (+ or *) now has to ensure that each element has a unique inverse element. So if you take any element X , there must be another element Y such that X o Y spits out the neutral element regarding "o". For addition this is 0 (you add 0, shit happens), for multiplication it's 1 (you multiply by 1, nothing happens). If you think about it, whenever you invert a number you get its neutral, 3 * 1/3 = 1, 3 + (-3) = 0.

If these properties are violated you can somehow show that the whole natural intuition of numbers just breaks down, but I can't think of a good example on the spot. Been too long since I've done anything in this area.


In the usual fields the inverse element would just be -X for addition and 1/x for multiplication. In this finite field you can't do this, because "1/1" clearly does not exist as neither does an element called "-1".

However, with the circular arrangement you can quickly see that:

0+0 = 0
1+1 = 0

0*1 = 0
1*0 = 0
1*1 = 1

Hence, each element has an inverse regarding multiplication and addition, and our intuition still works. This way to look at it satisfies the requirements of a field. It just so happens to be finite. This curiously doesn't work for any set of numbers either, the number of elements has to be infinite, a prime, or a prime power.
If you want to get technical, then "2" in the way we normally understand it won't give you "2+2 = 0", but there is an abstract field that extends {0,1} in a way such that the elements that you could "call '2'" would satisfy 2+2 = 0. You can easily get 2+3=0 for {0,1,2,3,4} with the usual addition though (check this yourself if you'd like as an exercise).


As for 'why' this works, I doubt anybody knows. Emergent properties?

Essentially, fields are merely a formalization of the way in which we naturally came to use numbers based on our experience of reality. And the formalization naturally gives rise to both finite and infinite fields. There are also weird fields that have polynomials as their "numbers" and where "1" is suddenly a polynomial (the constant polynomial 1). But you would never expect either of these by not carefully thinking about the fundamentals, what you already know, the implications of either, or what other ways you could view what you already know in.

These weird mysteries are why I'm against quickly rushing to conclusions on any subject and prefer looking for as many explanations and vantage points as I am currently capable of. The universe has a way to always screw us when we think we "know", and to reward us with new exciting experiences if we remain open.



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Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 06:28:39 AM
Thank you. I hope we, as a species, can keep moving towards having more discussions of this nature when it comes to talking to people of opposing perspectives.

It's not possible.  You already saw how overcome with joy Jew scumbag HairyMaclairy was when he posted about the stupid Jussie Smollet hoax.  He was jumping out of his chair in excitement to the idea that he could attempt to blame random white people for a hoax lynching.  These (((people))) operate solely on lies and deception, not "discussions".  "By way of deception thou shall make war" - official slogan of the Mossad.  And unironically sounds like it could be a quote from some religious text attributed to Satan, but no, it's their actual official slogan.

There is absolutely nothing to discuss with them.  Just as you could also not broker a deal with the devil, discussion is not possible with people operating in bad faith and entirely on lies and deception.  The only course of action is expelling them from your country just as nations have expelled the evil cult of Judaism over 300 times in the past.
Most people just haven't invested the time needed to be able to see things more clearly.

It took me decades to see through some of the inconsistencies in what I used to believe was "good", and I spend more time thinking about random crap than I do on other things. And even then I'm still confused on most topics.

Alas, I'm convinced if we could create structures and incentives that fostered a culture of self-awareness and self-challenge (as opposed to challenging others) the vast majority of people would turn away from polemics and radicalism (in which I include most forms of public protest).
Real solutions aren't created by fighting. Catastrophic levels of such can lead to forced re-evaluation (e.g. world wars).

But in most cases substantial change happens not on the political stage, but with scientists and entrepreneurs. The incentives are currently just simply missaligned because our schools were structured for different purposes than to achieve the greatest humanity possibly could. They were created to produce biological factory robots during the industrial revolution.



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Quote from: Ibian on March 15, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
This is the beginning of wisdom.
To get back to our past talk about my excitement for VR.

I have been planning to create a game (VR or non-VR depending on timeline) that incentivizes people to break the auto-pilot lifestyle without them even noticing, should I ever be in the position to do so. You never asked and just assumed my position though, so we got into an argument back then.

I went from being a poor person that everybody claimed would amount to nothing to a degree in Math and self-made fortune. Mostly thanks to a game with proper incentive structures. And I want to recreate the experience for future generations, if I can. Not everybody wants to sacrifice their lives for "the greater good". Especially when the world seems to be set against you. But with the right incentives people might just end up doing so while enjoying themselves.



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Quote from: El duderino_ on March 15, 2019, 07:57:40 AM
I’m still stuck with if one ows me 1BTC and another one ows me 1BTC..... i need to receive 2BTC
Right?

Of-course i know math Goes much further and i Will keep this page and read BTCMILLIONAIRE’s post when i have a better device as my iPhone Wink

I remember he’s Nice post on whisky so i Will read the ones on this page as well, he explaines stuff pretty good

Cheesy Smiley
Thank you for the kind words!

In this case we would be living in a world where the number "2" doesn't exist. As soon as you get to the "biggest" number that exists and try to create one more, you destroy all the Bitcoins and have to start over.

This happens in reality all the time. It's why when foxes breed too much and eat all the rabbits they will die (although the Math for that doesn't need to make use of finite fields and as far as I am aware of always used differential equations to model populations).



1572. Post 50169816 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 08:47:15 AM
The incentives are currently just simply missaligned because our schools were structured for different purposes than to achieve the greatest humanity possibly could. They were created to produce biological factory robots during the industrial revolution.

The schools are structured the way they are because predators are inherently smarter than their prey, so if we take this one step further, one can possibly make the leap that all intelligence is essentially predatory in nature. Through nothing more than financial scams and media lies, the Jews make believe they've somehow rightfully inherited the position as 'top predator' or supreme organism of the planet, and then seek to keep any competition down that could possibly get rid of them.  Thus the intentional dumbing down of society.

Then you have complete subhuman goyim like Beto O'Rourke and Justin Trudeau willingly agreeing to be their servants for whatever scraps they can get from the table.
As aware of the fact that I am that many people are vastly more intelligent that I am, I have repeatedly outperformed 99% of people in everything I've set my mind to. And I'm certainly anything but predatory. I try to improve myself and others where I can, even if I have to make myself come off as an asshole in the process.

So while intelligence certainly enables predators to much easier find and outwit their prey, I would argue against that claim. I believe that intelligent people gravitating towards predatory behaviour is a result of our current culture, which is a result of wrong incentives fostered by a poor education system.

High intelligence and aptitude lead to arrogance without the humbling experiences that hardship puts you through. It is often in moment of overwhelming perceived stupidity and incompetence, followed by a realization after the fact that leads to arrogance diminishing and eventually breaking entirely.

But that is not possible when everybody complains and antagonizes, which are character traits that are exacerbated by our global system of drip-feed education. People feel stupid, but never get to the point where challenging themselves repeatedly leads to the realization of the benefits of hardship. Which causes them to complain more and more due to the perceived injustices, even where they aren't such.

And if you don't understand on an intimate level that hardships are highly beneficial tools in the building of character you'll become bitter. So from both perspectives, the incentives currently are structured in a way that fosters arrogance and other negative character traits from both highly intelligent and less intellectual people alike.


I agree though, that the world is currently rampant with highly competent people trying to bend over the rest. But why would they do otherwise when the entire world hates them? Would you sacrifice your life-time and resources to improve the lives of people that you feel are your enemies?

That's why it's important for poor people to understand that they are the narrators of their own fate. While they might not accomplish every goal, they certainly can put themselves in positions from which they can show others that it's possible to lift yourself up and then help others do the same, while simultaneously improving the world. Instead of complaining about big oil, be an Elon and do what you can to create electric cars. Go into science. Or go into the arts and inspire people instead of riling people up against the currently popular enemy.


Of course that is if we want a world where people can live in collaboration.
I don't see any argument other than personal preference that states that our world is "wrong". We play games in which we fight each other all the time, and given the implications of currently existing technologies (e.g. memory manipulation) I see a very real possibility that we're currently in some sort of game that suppresses our memories of our "ground reality". And in that scenario even an ISIS terrorist would suddenly have a different meaning as we'd all be voluntary participants and couldn't be harmed in the first place.

That won't stop me from speaking out against those atrocities though, because I don't know the truth about our current lifetime and am not willing to take any chances.



1573. Post 50169964 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 15, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
To get back to our past talk about my excitement for VR.

I have been planning to create a game (VR or non-VR depending on timeline) that incentivizes people to break the auto-pilot lifestyle without them even noticing, should I ever be in the position to do so. You never asked and just assumed my position though, so we got into an argument back then.

I went from being a poor person that everybody claimed would amount to nothing to a degree in Math and self-made fortune. Mostly thanks to a game with proper incentive structures. And I want to recreate the experience for future generations, if I can. Not everybody wants to sacrifice their lives for "the greater good". Especially when the world seems to be set against you. But with the right incentives people might just end up doing so while enjoying themselves.
Education through entertainment is an excellent thing and sometimes comes in surprising forms.

I watched 300, same as anyone else. From there I read Gates of Fire, which is even better. Currently reading On Sparta, and learning things I had never heard about before. Important shit like their council of elders that kept the balance in society, and one of the main reasons they didn't collapse from within like everyone else did. This is stuff we can use to better our own culture, and it all started with an action flick.

80s and 90s cartoons often had the characters summarize the lesson of the episode, same with tv shows.

Couple excellent mangas as well, such as Vinland Saga and Vagabond that are accurate enough to give an idea of how people lived in those times and places and might inspire further reading. Also the occasional anime like Psycho Pass.

What was the game?
I remember learning about morals from stories and cartoons quite fondly as well. I'm very glad that Rick and Morty followed a similar route as one of the more prominent contemporary examples. While we don't know what's going on, and there's apparently no end-goal, why not just make the best of our time here?

Weren't you in your 40s or 50s though? If so, nice to see people of your generation be fond of anime as well. I used to be against it during my early teens cause I deemed it childish (wow edgy). But I'm increasingly enjoying even the more mundane ones, as they make me think about things that I generally wouldn't even consider.


The game was Final Fantasy XI. An MMO that was known for its unforgiving gameplay. You start in a world where you don't know what the fuck you're doing and everything is overwhelmingly hard to accomplish. The learning curve was basically a wall. But the rewards of completing your goals were thrilling and truly felt like an adventure.
It was basically a microcosm of reality, which is what I enjoyed so much about it (in retrospection).

I kept wanting to improve, so I ended up crunching numbers on all the gear, stats, crafts, auction house economics, and so on to improve my own abilities and profits.

Turns out that what I did was just what you would do in Mathematics (although on a very very very basic level, just numbers no abstract stuff), or by large extension with any general real world problems. Trying to optimize crafting (where synthesis could fail, random materials be lost, and high quality items be made with a random chance) turns out to be identical to balancing a portfolio of assets if you ignore the appearance. And thinking about ways to solo/duo/lowman content designed for multiple parties helped me learn how to think way out of the box as well, while still bringing it back to practicable solutions. Coincidentally, after I became really good at the game school went from repeating multiple years and almost being kicked out without a middle school diploma to being really easy, including university. I just learned how to learn solve problems from the game, as well as the perseverance required to do so.


However, the problem with that game was that it was just too hard and/or time consuming (depending on your content of choice). And the market doesn't like that. Games of today are the polar opposite as a result. And my vision is to create a common ground where the masses of casuals can jump right into it, but gradually move up to the experiences I've had in FFXI.

Basically reel the market in with flashy easy drip-feed, and then slowly transform the players into hardcore enthusiasts of challenges of all kind.

Once you feel the adrenaline pumping during something you deemed impossible, followed by the dopamine rush of clearing your impossible challenge, you will keep craving it. And that's where we will hopefully get a new generation of real pioneers (in science, engineering, tech, arts, music etc).



1574. Post 50169988 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 09:24:03 AM
What are your thoughts on the kind of person who would murder nearly a hundred people and injure hundreds more?

I am inclined to agree with BTCMillionaire that that individual has forfeited their right to life.  You?
This is pretty interesting. Most of my friends from the left argue strongly against this and consider human rights irrevocable. Which I can't find a perspective to understand it from, seeing how human rights are a human creation.

Edit: I say "from the left" but don't mean that as "as opposed to me on the right". I don't even know where I would fall on the political spectrum. I don't care about politics. I care about thinking about problems. On matters of UBI I would probably be "left", and I certainly think drugs should be legalized which seems to be a "left" point as well. That said, I don't think the political spectrum is sufficient to reflect our reality, but in this specific case the friends I'm referring to would easily be understood as "left" by most people today, hence me bringing it up as I would consider you to be more like them in your opinions.



1575. Post 50170205 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 09:40:59 AM
What are your thoughts on the kind of person who would murder nearly a hundred people and injure hundreds more?

I am inclined to agree with BTCMillionaire that that individual has forfeited their right to life.  You?
This is pretty interesting. Most of my friends from the left argue strongly against this and consider human rights irrevocable. Which I can't find a perspective to understand it from, seeing how human rights are a human creation.

In defence of your leftist friends, we are all humans so being a human creation is not really something we can examine from the outside.  

I would certainly classify myself as leftist.  Champagne socialist if you would like a fitting derogatory term.  

 A death sentence is extreme violence by the State and arguably the most unLibertarian thing ever.  You cannot make an argument for death sentences on economic grounds as the inevitable appeals are more expensive than life sentences. On this basis it seems to me that the right should be against death sentences but never mind that.

All said, it seems an appropriate sanction for the most heinous of crimes, even if it does cost the tax payer more.
The whole government and practical implications are another story. I don't know if I would be for a legislated death sentence, mostly because I don't trust the powers to be not to abuse it. There would also be the whole issue of the grey areas. If the world agrees that a rapist should be executed, how would we deal with an alleged rapist that gets convicted but without hard proof of his acts (such as the dipshit who shared his video online)?

I always secretly hope that anyone who willfully does things to others that they wouldn't want done to themselves would get back what they did several times over. Perhaps even be reborn as battery farmed life-stock. Or someone who will endure physical torture, possibly without even knowing why depending on the gravity of their actions.

As for the tax argument, that's actually surprising, I didn't think it'd be that expensive. Although if we legislated death sentences for only extreme and clear cut cases (terrorists, murderers) I would legislate not to even allow an appeal and only allow execution of those cases where there is no doubt remaining. With the cessation of human rights the person has also lost the right to appeal in my book, so the only cost remaining would be the actual execution.


Edit: They don't need any defense. We argue all sorts of topics day in day out and nobody ever has any hard feelings. We're all a bunch of nerds who just enjoy arguments. Often even for positions we don't believe in just for the exercise, an exercise which I feel schools should have by default and practice regularly.



1576. Post 50170271 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 15, 2019, 09:46:26 AM
30s. Apparently "young" for this place. Which is a shame. The young need money more than the old right now but lack the knowledge to understand what makes bitcoin valuable.

The game was Final Fantasy XI. An MMO that was known for its unforgiving gameplay. You start in a world where you don't know what the fuck you're doing and everything is overwhelmingly hard to accomplish. The learning curve was basically a wall. But the rewards of completing your goals were thrilling and truly felt like an adventure.
It was basically a microcosm of reality, which is what I enjoyed so much about it (in retrospection).

I kept wanting to improve, so I ended up crunching numbers on all the gear, stats, crafts, auction house economics, and so on to improve my own abilities and profits.

Turns out that what I did was just what you would do in Mathematics (although on a very very very basic level, just numbers no abstract stuff), or by large extension with any general real world problems. Trying to optimize crafting (where synthesis could fail, random materials be lost, and high quality items be made with a random chance) turns out to be identical to balancing a portfolio of assets if you ignore the appearance. And thinking about ways to solo/duo/lowman content designed for multiple parties helped me learn how to think way out of the box as well, while still bringing it back to practicable solutions. Coincidentally, after I became really good at the game school went from repeating multiple years and almost being kicked out without a middle school diploma to being really easy, including university. I just learned how to learn solve problems from the game, as well as the perseverance required to do so.


However, the problem with that game was that it was just too hard and/or time consuming (depending on your content of choice). And the market doesn't like that. Games of today are the polar opposite as a result. And my vision is to create a common ground where the masses of casuals can jump right into it, but gradually move up to the experiences I've had in FFXI.

Basically reel the market in with flashy easy drip-feed, and then slowly transform the players into hardcore enthusiasts of challenges of all kind.

Once you feel the adrenaline pumping during something you deemed impossible, followed by the dopamine rush of clearing your impossible challenge, you will keep craving it. And that's where we will hopefully get a new generation of real pioneers (in science, engineering, tech, arts, music etc).
Sounds like my experience in Everquest. It was hard and kept getting harder the higher you leveled. Critters were stronger than solo players for the most part and came in packs, so cooperation was required. Leveling took a long time, so by the top levels almost everyone was competent. And if someone wasn't for some reason it became Known. Had some good times with a solid team for a long while.
They eventually dumbed it down, killing the entire spirit of the game. There was no real challenge to overcome and thus no point.
Sounds a lot like FFXI except that there were ways to do things with lower numbers. Depending on the content the number varied. But one time we brought down a wyrm in 40 minutes with 5 players that other guilds repeatedly failed after hours of trying with two alliances of 18 players each. It took us years to get to that point though, needing gear, strategy, experience and extreme levels of focus. One split-second mistake from any of us and it was all over.

And with 30s you're pretty much in the age range of my inner circle of friends. We're all mostly late twenties to mid thirties. Not sure why I thought you were older.



1577. Post 50170412 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 09:58:51 AM
Not sure I agree with disallowing an appeal (mistakes do get made) but let’s put that aside for the moment.

My largest complaint with conservative politicians is that they are not conservative enough.  They only take into account very short term costs and disregard long term costs. There is no planning for the future.

I find it equally frustrating that the left is no incredibly poor at prosecuting these economic arguments, because they are so obvious.  
I would only refuse appeal if death sentence was legislated and if there was absolutely no doubt. If there was video footage of the murder and you could clearly identify the person for example. But since for all practicable purposes that seems too fuzzy to deal with I honestly don't know if I would ever give my vote for it.

And yeah, I don't like how the right talks about environmental issues either. I don't buy the human climate change narrative. But it's clear that polluting our oceans with plastics is bad. We throw plastic away, we don't eat it. So why would we want to eat fish that's filled with the crap?

My problem with the left is that they generally seem to mean well, but only rarely are equipped to process the problems the right doesn't seem to care about and choose all sorts of infantile tactics to discredit the right instead of focusing on what matters.
The left seems at least as - if not in some places more - polemic to me than the right. Mainly because Trump talks about things with substance (e.g. how to improve the Economy for everyone, which in the long term leads to scientific and technological breakthrough), regardless of what he actually ends up doing. While the left focuses far too much on the identity route.

What people choose to identify with should be a private and personal matter and not something that a country focuses taxes on.

There are too many problems that could make use of that money that actually matter. Disease, energy, environment, poverty and education to name some. But certainly not questions about gender or pronouns. We can talk about those on a political stage once we fix the problems that concern everybody, and I'll gladly partake at that time. But right now our priorities are completely backwards.



1578. Post 50170457 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 15, 2019, 09:55:05 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35uQCtr4EY
Lmao



1579. Post 50170496 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 15, 2019, 10:15:41 AM
How do you like the TA, guys?  Grin Grin Grin
(drawn chartdicks snipped)

I like it. Completely accurate: BTC could go up, down, or sideways.

This is TA at its finest.

Its fun to attempt to predict what will happen next, but most people who swear by technical analysis are just trying to sell you something.

Sometimes people are right in their prediction, sometimes they are wrong. Nobody is right all of the time. Also, nobody is wrong all of the time, unless they are Tom Lee.  Cheesy 
I swear by technical analysis. But it's more complex than "I think the price will go up because of this pretty picture". The trick is to identify different price ranges, try to estimate confidence intervals for these ranges, and then balancing your trades in all directions in a way that achieves your goals. Be the goals minimizing potential loss, maximizing gain, or any other balance of potential loss and gain over several iterations/candles.

Of course, you will never find any working and guaranteed to be profitable TA in the wild, because it would eat into our profits by destroying our information advantage.



1580. Post 50170655 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 10:30:21 AM
There are very many SAD things happening every day, but @the same time the world gives many happy moments and Some just costing almost nothing or nothing.... and as easy as watching a sunset with your loved ones and a cocktail in hand

This is getting outrageous how Micgoossens keeps pretending to have a girlfriend.  "She" has posted pictures of her hands like 20 times now.  I played football in high school.  I can easily recognize those wide fingers from the defensive line.
Sometimes you make interesting points. But most of the time I really hope that you're just trolling for the lulz.



1581. Post 50170978 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 15, 2019, 11:01:56 AM
thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh

No surprises here




Surprise for me. I'd have imagined I'd be more "libertarian", as I lean heavily into laissez faire, including the bad consequences of poor choices.



1582. Post 50171006 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:06:21 AM
Sometimes you make interesting points.

Sega partnered with Retro-bit and gave them the molds and all the specifications for the original 6-button Genesis and Sega Saturn controller and is releasing USB versions.  Amazon supposedly already out of pre-order stock.   Order one of each before they're out of stock never to be seen again like what happened the first time Sega re-released a Saturn USB controller.  People claim they're identical to the original parts except now in USB.

https://twitter.com/RetroBitGaming/status/1106237824590852097
I see what you're trying, but you're off here.



1583. Post 50171080 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

I wonder if authoritarian vs libertarian is on a pendulum as well. Smarter people with smarter choices leading to more libertarians. And then things swinging back because people somehow return to creating too many problems and thus forcing a necessity for authority. Then authority overreaching, people slowly learning, and rinse repeat. Hopefully we're smart enough as a species not to go there again.



1584. Post 50171102 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:15:52 AM
Sometimes you make interesting points.

Sega partnered with Retro-bit and gave them the molds and all the specifications for the original 6-button Genesis and Sega Saturn controller and is releasing USB versions.  Amazon supposedly already out of pre-order stock.   Order one of each before they're out of stock never to be seen again like what happened the first time Sega re-released a Saturn USB controller.  People claim they're identical to the original parts except now in USB.

https://twitter.com/RetroBitGaming/status/1106237824590852097
I see what you're trying, but you're off here.

If you don't want one someone like Infofront in the thread probably will.  Virtually every D-pad on all PC compatible USB controllers released is complete garbage, so this will probably be the first exception.
Never mind, I might've misinterpreted your post then. I thought you were implying that I only care about mundane things such as retro game pads that are often associated with weird hipsters (which I got some of the classic consoles because I've grown up with them though).

I redact my statement if that was not your intent and thank you for sharing if it was meant to genuinely spread awareness of something you feel others might want.


With interesting points I meant such as we discussed a bit earlier today in case you were actually trying to imply what I first thought by the way.


Edit: You play games Roach?



1585. Post 50171149 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:20:08 AM
I wonder if authoritarian vs libertarian is on a pendulum as well. Smarter people with smarter choices leading to more libertarians.

Libertardians are dumb people who think they're smart because it's nothing but a theoretical construct that doesn't exist in reality.  It's a fraction of a second power vacuum that's replaced by a strongman.  If you waved a magic wand to force the US to be "libertarian", then all it means is that someone like George Soros is your new ruler (not that he isn't already).
Fair point. But the difference between government authority and George Soros is that Soros weasles his way around to impact the world to his liking. But he has no immediate authority over individuals (unless he kills them) and people are still free to play within the status quo and break out of it.

In the case of an authoritarian government on the other hand things look a bit different as they can exert control over individuals directly. Which makes it much harder to "outplay" them.



1586. Post 50171260 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:25:08 AM
^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.
I agree with your hierarchy here.

But I don't see why the issues you mention are relevant on an individual basis. Individuals come first, and the environment is too hostile they can find ways to have their way within it or move to a new environment that allows them to live their life and pursue their goals freely. With an authoritarian government one has to worry about government overreach. With Soros one can just play their life out as it were. There will always be people with different objectives obstructing their path, but Soros is a much lesser evil than any authoritarian government could potentially be. At least on an individual basis.



1587. Post 50171464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 15, 2019, 11:44:48 AM
thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh
No surprises here


Surprise for me. I'd have imagined I'd be more "libertarian", as I lean heavily into laissez faire, including the bad consequences of poor choices.

Useless quiz is far too statist to get proper picture
Yeah, the questions also aren't sufficiently well-defined for my taste.

Some years back I went to the doctor to get my insomnia checked out. Ended up at some ADHD specialist.

The questionnaire was so ambiguous that I could've crossed anything without distorting the truth depending on how I'd choose to interpret the questions. Needless to say, I could choose the outcome so I went ahead and got a Ritalin prescription just to be sure.

Surprisingly, it knocked me out. First time in my life I went to bed and just fell asleep.

Not taking it anymore because I don't like having to watch my diet to negate the side-effects, and while it makes me more productive and focused it makes me think more linearly and thus tampers with creativity.

Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data. But unfortunately the best we have for now. Probably going to change in a decade or so though.



1588. Post 50171532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:39:43 AM
^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.
I agree with your hierarchy here.

But I don't see why the issues you mention are relevant on an individual basis. Individuals come first, and the environment is too hostile they can find ways to have their way within it or move to a new environment that allows them to live their life and pursue their goals freely. With an authoritarian government one has to worry about government overreach. With Soros one can just play their life out as it were. There will always be people with different objectives obstructing their path, but Soros is a much lesser evil than any authoritarian government could potentially be. At least on an individual basis.

George Soros IS an authoritarian government.  It's called international Talmudic Jewry.  Do you actually believe he sets up fake NGOs in nations all across the globe in order to try and destabilize them by importing infinite 3rd world Nigerians by himself?Huh?  Italy, Russia, UK, etc; you really believe he single handedly navigates around Italian and Russian mafias circumventing all their power structures as a single outsider?  The routes are media, banks, UN, IMF, World Bank, CFR, etc.  Just because they don't wave an easily identifiable flag around when they destroy your nation doesn't mean they don't exist.  

The worst is the complete idiots like Beto O'Rourke and Justin Trudeau who pretend they're on some type of 'exclusive', 'elite' team when they're just being played as useful idiot, empty suit frontmen to destroy their own countries.
I don't know enough about the details, but would be surprised if our problems weren't mostly deliberate in ways at least similar to what you describe.

However. George Soros can't show up at my door and tell me what I can and can't do. An authoritarian government on the other hand can dictate most aspects of my life and forbid me from leaving the country.

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here, where none of the Western problems exist. Sure, they have that whole birth rate and aging population issue. But that's clearly being solved by them (and not anywhere as bad as in South Korea in the first place). They also have work ethics that are unhealthy to say the least. But I'm wealthy enough not to care about that at this point. The biggest problem over there would be the illegality of recreational substance use, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a safe travel destination in the west to play that game from time to time. Not that it would matter if things got so bad that I'd actually have to move. Some things take priority over exploring the space of human consciousness and experience.

I'm not saying that people like Soros aren't a blight on the world. But I still don't see how they're comparable to obvious authoritarian governments. Unless his end-goal was to destroy all countries. Which he is too old to accomplish anyways.



1589. Post 50171560 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 11:55:28 AM
Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data.

The questionnaire seemed to have been valid because if I take a ritalin or adderal as a non-ADHD person it's going to make me wide awake for like 8 hours.  So in order for it to make you fall asleep, you really do have some sort of ADHD.
That's what I've eventually learned as well. But my point was that I chose the answers required to get the diagnosis and prescription. And I didn't have to technically lie about things, because depending on the interpretation of the questions I could explain either answer with my true beliefs. It just happened to be accurate, which I originally didn't believe.

Edit: If I take stupid amounts of Ritalin I get wired as well though.



1590. Post 50171679 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 12:06:52 PM
As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.
I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.



1591. Post 50171818 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 12:17:40 PM
As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.
I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.

All you really need to know is that in the old days, civilizations cropped up exclusively by the sea or other major waterways.  A lot of that is because if the land crops fail or somehow become unavailable, civilization can continue without everyone dying.  Ideally you would want to be as far from major cities as possible and near the water, possibly on an island.  

When the Jews pull their 9/11 demolition of this economic system you're not going to be able to travel anywhere, so you better get there before it happens.  All the ATMs and other crap will probably be frozen, you probably won't be able to even buy gas, and bitcoin will be 100% useless.  It will be strictly physical cash, coins, and physical metals (if the paper cash still has any value).  It's not really possible for the value of many of the coins like nickels and pennies to decrease, though.  It costs like 8 cents to create a nickel and 1.8 cents to create a penny, I think, so all that stuff will still be around.
They would have to destroy the Bitcoin satellites to break that means of exchange. Which is much more difficult to do than disabling bank accounts. I also don't think that any human force in the world, which wouldn't outright wipe out humanity, would be capable of disabling all means of travel, trade etc. There is too much to lose on an individual basis to allow any significant global scale catastrophe. As such, I see any doomsday scenarios as heavily localized with individual countries remaining unfazed.

As far as localizing near water, Japan seems pretty much perfect for that. And since they don't allow Muslims, or any foreigners, to mass-immigrate most of the Western problems don't hold there. One could argue that a mass exodus from the West to Asia could become a problem. But unless they start nuking the country those problems can be solved with money. Or with a hermit lifestyle somewhere in the middle of the nowhere of Japan.



1592. Post 50171858 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2019, 12:01:15 PM
Hot take on the NZ shooting by an Australian Senator.

FWIW, I am of the opinion Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western values.


Has there been a massive MSM outrage yet? Against the letter?



1593. Post 50172085 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 12:31:47 PM
As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.
I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.

All you really need to know is that in the old days, civilizations cropped up exclusively by the sea or other major waterways.  A lot of that is because if the land crops fail or somehow become unavailable, civilization can continue without everyone dying.  Ideally you would want to be as far from major cities as possible and near the water, possibly on an island.  

When the Jews pull their 9/11 demolition of this economic system you're not going to be able to travel anywhere, so you better get there before it happens.  All the ATMs and other crap will probably be frozen, you probably won't be able to even buy gas, and bitcoin will be 100% useless.  It will be strictly physical cash, coins, and physical metals (if the paper cash still has any value).  It's not really possible for the value of many of the coins like nickels and pennies to decrease, though.  It costs like 8 cents to create a nickel and 1.8 cents to create a penny, I think, so all that stuff will still be around.
They would have to destroy the Bitcoin satellites to break that means of exchange. Which is much more difficult to do than disabling bank accounts. I also don't think that any human force in the world, which wouldn't outright wipe out humanity, would be capable of disabling all means of travel, trade etc. There is too much to lose on an individual basis to allow any significant global scale catastrophe. As such, I see any doomsday scenarios as heavily localized with individual countries remaining unfazed.

As far as localizing near water, Japan seems pretty much perfect for that. And since they don't allow Muslims, or any foreigners, to mass-immigrate most of the Western problems don't hold there. One could argue that a mass exodus from the West to Asia could become a problem. But unless they start nuking the country those problems can be solved with money. Or with a hermit lifestyle somewhere in the middle of the nowhere of Japan.

I'm not sure how you don't understand the cities turn into cannibalistic warzones soon as the just in time delivery economy fails.  You also don't seem to understand there are ENORMOUS problems in the oil industry where you will probably see extreme shortages and/or prices in the near future as well.  I think you need $100+ a barrel oil just for exploration to be viable at all.  The industry hasn't even been looking for replacements for the stuff we're using in a LONG TIME.  Much of the problems coming are going to be based in the oil sector.  Probably why Trump is trying to invade Venezeula and steal theirs.
Who cares about oil when you have nuclear power to fuel electric motors? There are solutions to those problems. You just need some space and resources. Things might not be pretty, but Japan still seems like a decent bet if full-blown civil war broke out in the West (which I doubt will happen).

Nuclear power plants can also be made vastly more efficient than they are now. The tech used in current ones is the same that was used to nuke places and people and not optimized for usable energy output.



1594. Post 50172242 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 15, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
Periodic reminder about this realr0ach person:
You may be skimming through some of his stuff and thinking 'oh this part makes sense, he has a point there'.
Just be advised there is not one original thought being expressed here; it has all been discussed, agreed and even acted upon by OG bitcoiners. They put it all much better, and without the divisive nonsense he advocates.
I make no claim to originality myself, and I can only advise the reader to read around to find out what is real and what is likely to happen.
Oh in my mind I have very little doubt that, while we'll have some serious problems to face, life as a whole will get much better for everyone who deserves it. But as I've said earlier, I argue for points I don't believe in sometimes as an exercise. Similarly I talk to people whose position I almost surely won't share to draw out questions I won't ask myself otherwise.


Here is what I see happening. We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others. Some will choose to just consume in our world of abundance and do nothing else (enjoy the show). Others will choose to compete in creating the most interesting experiences of all kind, or just do it because they enjoy the creative process.
Given the current trajectory and all the developments I've been following in science and tech I have almost no doubt that we're heading into at least a quasi-utopia. The only potential cockblock I see to this is an asteroid or some other natural disaster that would wipe humanity out entirely or somehow wipe out all of our knowledge. There will still be people complaining and conspiracy crafting, but that's just the fundamental nature of being at play, and not an actual issue. Matter tries to bond in all possible permutations, some are stable, some aren't. Some like each other and compound, some don't. Humans are just an extension of this.

On the path to that there will be a gap between people who choose to stay within virtual realities, and others who will be trying to avoid those or otherwise create the technology necessary to have the same level of freedom VR will offer in the physical world.

And once we get bored of all that we'll realize that we've been there before and hit the reset button. Then the whole debacle will start over with results differing in appearance but not in fundamental quality.



1595. Post 50172281 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 12:57:22 PM
but Japan still seems like a decent bet if full-blown civil war broke out in the West (which I doubt will happen).

I'm not worried about civil war whatsoever.  The only thing to worry about is the collapse of the oil industry or debt based monetary scam system will cause the just in time delivery economy to fail, maybe even on a global basis, which probably results in the death of millions or billions of people and something resembling a zombie apocalypse.  The financial aspect of that doomsday event can be averted simply by revaluing metals to what they should be and going back to a metals based monetary system.  As for the oil part, we'll see what happens there.  Looks like Trump will try to 'commandere' some Venezeula oil.
Oil is irrelevant. Oil is being used because it's the status quo. There are plenty of options to it that will get adopted at a speed none of us can even imagine if the necessity and economic incentives arise.

Monetary systems have been collapsing for all of human history as well, with no significant impact to speak of as of today. And Bitcoin, as much as you hate it, is at least one solid solution that is already taking the first steps to replacing the fiat scam.

I can see the appeal of metals. But in the digital age they're just simply not efficient and friction-less enough to be worth the trouble.



1596. Post 50172404 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 15, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
Japan is faking its friendliness.

They don't like foreigners at all. While I agree Japan isn't China, I still wouldn't place it too far away from China.

Japan will never give you a Japanese passport even when you marry a Japanese girl. Doesn't matter how long you lived in Japan or what education you got. They don't care about your net worth neither.

If things suddenly  go south, Japan might surprise you.

There isn't a single safe country left on earth.
That's too generalizing. I'm aware of the xenophobic attitude that many, mostly old, Japanese people have.

And while they do have a "public" and a "personal" stance (tatemae vs honne). But the ones I've interacted with clearly used their personal opinions when interacting with me, as opposed to their "polite, avoid problems and live in harmony" type "public" opinions (which are mostly a result of their lack of space). I did meet my fair share of the type of Japanese that you are referring to, but you can entirely avoid them and any of the problems associated.

Also, it's not true that I couldn't get a Japanese passport. It's not as easy as it is in most Western places, but it's certainly possible. I could pretty much get one within two more years if I recall correctly.



1597. Post 50172419 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 15, 2019, 01:09:36 PM
Yeah, the questions also aren't sufficiently well-defined for my taste.

Some years back I went to the doctor to get my insomnia checked out. Ended up at some ADHD specialist.

The questionnaire was so ambiguous that I could've crossed anything without distorting the truth depending on how I'd choose to interpret the questions. Needless to say, I could choose the outcome so I went ahead and got a Ritalin prescription just to be sure.

Surprisingly, it knocked me out. First time in my life I went to bed and just fell asleep.

Not taking it anymore because I don't like having to watch my diet to negate the side-effects, and while it makes me more productive and focused it makes me think more linearly and thus tampers with creativity.

Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data. But unfortunately the best we have for now. Probably going to change in a decade or so though.

That is my experience with Ritalin as well, I never had any sleeping problems tho, rather the opposite, I sleep too much and is usually on a 25 hour cycle.
But I tried microdosing it instead (1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg pill in the morning) and that gave me a good balance between focus and creativity without messing with sleep and hunger.
I'm not taking it right now because of interactions with other drugs, but I will try another round when I'm of that drug.
I sleep too much as well. My problem is with falling asleep. Even if I worked myself out and have been awake for 30+ hours it would generally take me 2-3 hours of toss and turn before I'd finally doze off. At that point I sleep through though.



1598. Post 50172497 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others.

I've already seen other people bring up this shitcoiner topic before, that EVERYONE will have their own coin that derives value from what they produce or whatever.  Assuming you could even make it work with all the interchangeability problems, most people simply produce nothing, so it's like....lol?  You are aware of the term bread and circus right?  

Welfare is money you bribe poor people with so they don't murder you in your sleep and take your stuff.  In that regard, any change back to a non-fantasy land, fraudulent monetary system is probably going to involve enormous taxes on 'the haves' to distribute bread to the people who produce nothing to stop them from burning down the planet.  Well, actually, just the cost of handing out food would be low and not requiring enormous taxes, but that assumes you completely abolish the entire military money laundering scam, medicare money laundering scam, and all other fraudulent govt programs.
By digitally only I mean that people will create virtual worlds and experiences that others will choose to consume. Similar to Youtube, Twitch and Patreon today but on a much larger scale.

Costs are on an exponential downward slope for any physically produced good that the government or other such players don't have their hands in. As such, there will be no need for labour in the traditional sense. And value and money will literally just be brownie points exchanged between different parties. For this even shitcoins would fit the bill. But I think that something like Bitcoin will be the common denominator, as central bank fiat currencies are inflating too much.



1599. Post 50172529 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
Japan is faking its friendliness.

They don't like foreigners at all. While I agree Japan isn't China, I still wouldn't place it too far away from China.

Japan will never give you a Japanese passport even when you marry a Japanese girl. Doesn't matter how long you lived in Japan or what education you got. They don't care about your net worth neither.

If things suddenly  go south, Japan might surprise you.

There isn't a single safe country left on earth.

Well, this Mindrust guy might be delusional thinking digital shitcoins can compare at all to physical metals, but at least he's not clueless that a random Gaijin roaming around Asia when the shit hits the fan will probably be fucked. What is the most common trait of the Chinese?  It's pragmatism.  They do NOT have any type of societal norms based on things like Christianity (which is mostly just the golden rule).  Even if you're not religious you will probably still benefit from living in a Christian foundation civilization.  

When the time comes, maybe it's completely pragmatic for the Chinese or Japanese to decapitate the outsider Gaijin believing they can't be trusted for whatever reason:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword
Again, China and Japan are about as similar as Europe and the US. Probably less so as Japan puts more value on freedom than China ever could pretend to.

Also, between your reference and today Japan got nuked twice. That caused a drastic shift in their mentality. They're more into being productive than being dumb warmongers now and most of them would be too focused with the rat race to even think twice about some gaijin.



1600. Post 50172544 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 15, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
For culture and colours.....

In each one of those we Will have good and bad, better and worse people
I can get along with all of them.... with the good ones, i avoid bad coloured but i try to avoid bad whites as well
We can have muslim terrorists, but we had or have white nazi’s as well

There Will always be problems ..... just don’t be the one in the center or helping or whatever with those problems

Good night and let us HODL and rest in peace

Lights of @ Siquijor island

Good night WO’s
Pretty accurate.



1601. Post 50172641 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others.

I've already seen other people bring up this shitcoiner topic before, that EVERYONE will have their own coin that derives value from what they produce or whatever.  Assuming you could even make it work with all the interchangeability problems, most people simply produce nothing, so it's like....lol?  You are aware of the term bread and circus right?  

Welfare is money you bribe poor people with so they don't murder you in your sleep and take your stuff.  In that regard, any change back to a non-fantasy land, fraudulent monetary system is probably going to involve enormous taxes on 'the haves' to distribute bread to the people who produce nothing to stop them from burning down the planet.  Well, actually, just the cost of handing out food would be low and not requiring enormous taxes, but that assumes you completely abolish the entire military money laundering scam, medicare money laundering scam, and all other fraudulent govt programs.
By digitally only I mean that people will create virtual worlds and experiences that others will choose to consume. Similar to Youtube, Twitch and Patreon today but on a much larger scale.

Costs are on an exponential downward slope for any physically produced good that the government or other such players don't have their hands in. As such, there will be no need for labour in the traditional sense. And value and money will literally just be brownie points exchanged between different parties. For this even shitcoins would fit the bill. But I think that something like Bitcoin will be the common denominator, as central bank fiat currencies are inflating too much.

It's going to most likely be the exact opposite.  Instead of only intellectual property having value, things like manual labor will probably make a LARGE comeback with the collapse of EROI in the oil industry.  The books are ALL cooked on this stuff, but a lot of sources claim the EROI is already lower than what is required to maintain an industrial civilization in the first place and there is no real substitute for oil.  

I personally think the govt is subsidizing the price of oil/oil industry right now as a stealth form of helicopter money.  So the question of:  hey, what do we do with all these people who don't know how to program or whatever the fuck?  Will probably fix itself.  They might end up chopping logs or working in a field or something.
What kind of labour exactly do you see so valuable when oil collapses?



1602. Post 50172827 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 01:41:20 PM
We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others.

I've already seen other people bring up this shitcoiner topic before, that EVERYONE will have their own coin that derives value from what they produce or whatever.  Assuming you could even make it work with all the interchangeability problems, most people simply produce nothing, so it's like....lol?  You are aware of the term bread and circus right?  

Welfare is money you bribe poor people with so they don't murder you in your sleep and take your stuff.  In that regard, any change back to a non-fantasy land, fraudulent monetary system is probably going to involve enormous taxes on 'the haves' to distribute bread to the people who produce nothing to stop them from burning down the planet.  Well, actually, just the cost of handing out food would be low and not requiring enormous taxes, but that assumes you completely abolish the entire military money laundering scam, medicare money laundering scam, and all other fraudulent govt programs.
By digitally only I mean that people will create virtual worlds and experiences that others will choose to consume. Similar to Youtube, Twitch and Patreon today but on a much larger scale.

Costs are on an exponential downward slope for any physically produced good that the government or other such players don't have their hands in. As such, there will be no need for labour in the traditional sense. And value and money will literally just be brownie points exchanged between different parties. For this even shitcoins would fit the bill. But I think that something like Bitcoin will be the common denominator, as central bank fiat currencies are inflating too much.

It's going to most likely be the exact opposite.  Instead of only intellectual property having value, things like manual labor will probably make a LARGE comeback with the collapse of EROI in the oil industry.  The books are ALL cooked on this stuff, but a lot of sources claim the EROI is already lower than what is required to maintain an industrial civilization in the first place and there is no real substitute for oil.  

I personally think the govt is subsidizing the price of oil/oil industry right now as a stealth form of helicopter money.  So the question of:  hey, what do we do with all these people who don't know how to program or whatever the fuck?  Will probably fix itself.  They might end up chopping logs or working in a field or something.
What kind of labour exactly do you see so valuable when oil collapses?

Do you not understand that most labor in modern civilization is done by machines and much of that is oil powered?  It requires a human doing physical labor for 12 years to equal one barrel of oil.  This is where all the huge increase in qualify of life came from for humans.  The oil barrels are your black servants so to speak.  You remove oil from the equation and humans themselves are going to be doing a lot more of the work.  Here's some math/engineering on it:

https://fatcatwatch.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/abarrel-of-crude-is-worth-164000/

Warning:  blog is written by a lunatic Marxist, but I think his math on oil checks out.  He claimed a world run by women that disenfranchises men would have less wars.  I think female rulers actually started more wars per capita but not sure.  Females do not really care about if men live or die so wouldn't be surprised if they were more careless in sending them off to their deaths.
Again, just because we use oil right now doesn't mean we have to. We have a myriad of options with different trade offs. Nuclear power is the easiest solution. But there are others.



1603. Post 50172835 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.36h):

Quote from: d_eddie on March 15, 2019, 01:41:41 PM
Japan is faking its friendliness.
Also, it's not true that I couldn't get a Japanese passport. It's not as easy as it is in most Western places, but it's certainly possible. I could pretty much get one within two more years if I recall correctly.
You have to give up your previous citizenship though: Japan doesn't allow double passport.
Aware, but in a scenario where I'd have to leave my country I wouldn't care about its passport anymore.



1604. Post 50183461 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 02:16:15 PM
We have plenty of coal allegedly

Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars.  So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars.  The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries.  Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials.

As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die.
Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money.



1605. Post 50183513 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 15, 2019, 02:37:26 PM
We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others.

I've already seen other people bring up this shitcoiner topic before, that EVERYONE will have their own coin that derives value from what they produce or whatever.  Assuming you could even make it work with all the interchangeability problems, most people simply produce nothing, so it's like....lol?  You are aware of the term bread and circus right?  

Welfare is money you bribe poor people with so they don't murder you in your sleep and take your stuff.  In that regard, any change back to a non-fantasy land, fraudulent monetary system is probably going to involve enormous taxes on 'the haves' to distribute bread to the people who produce nothing to stop them from burning down the planet.  Well, actually, just the cost of handing out food would be low and not requiring enormous taxes, but that assumes you completely abolish the entire military money laundering scam, medicare money laundering scam, and all other fraudulent govt programs.
By digitally only I mean that people will create virtual worlds and experiences that others will choose to consume. Similar to Youtube, Twitch and Patreon today but on a much larger scale.

Costs are on an exponential downward slope for any physically produced good that the government or other such players don't have their hands in. As such, there will be no need for labour in the traditional sense. And value and money will literally just be brownie points exchanged between different parties. For this even shitcoins would fit the bill. But I think that something like Bitcoin will be the common denominator, as central bank fiat currencies are inflating too much.

But do you need VR.

Dreams are full reality to you, so you have all the equipment already.

Just needs some way to tap into lucid dreaming or trigger a certain sort of dream. eg High pleasure dream sir?  
There are a few problems I have with dreams. They're somewhat hazy as well as ambiguous. You don't retain perfect memory of them, and you can't choose where you drop in and out. Also, I want some multiplayer capacities for VR.

That said, dreams could potentially be our gateway to that end-goal anyways. Memories have been manipulated already (remove, implant, activate), so using such techniques in combination with a better understanding of our neural networks as well as using the capacity to dream could well make this work. There's mind-to-mind communication already too, so perhaps "multiplayer VR dreams" could become a thing.

Perhaps we could have some of the >1000k parties in VR without any compromise to OpSec?



1606. Post 50183937 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: vapourminer on March 15, 2019, 03:02:20 PM

As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.

[2+2 <> 4]

quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on.

initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings.

i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page  till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled.

too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many.

Honestly it's never to late, especially if you're interested.

When I was doing my Bachelor there was a guy well into his 50s or 60s who was taking all the "real" Math lectures with us as opposed to the dumbed down ones for Economists etc. People were very welcoming towards him and he seemed to be enjoying himself quite a lot. I changed universities throughout my Bachelor to the next city. And found the same guy taking Master level lectures at the new place when I was a bit later (first place was for Economics and Business with focus on Math, second had a proper full blown Math department). So clearly he didn't just attend, he was doing quite well too. And that appeared to be his first time at university in his life as well.

And older people have the big bonus that they may not have to perform or prove anything. You could just study for the sake of it, which takes all the stress away. And their life experiences can make it easier than for most young students who are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with life in the first place.


Be prepared to feel like a complete idiot as you start out, should you choose to do so though. I have not met anyone who didn't at least throughout the better portion of the first semester. But even those come back years later and still find new things they had not considered. The very first minute of the very first lecture that I took I almost fell into despair just looking at the blackboard.

Anyway, not trying to shill you into anything here. But the option is there and worth considering. Especially for those with an appreciation of just thinking about things they don't need to for nothing other than the sake of doing so. There are very few ways that are similarly efficient in breaking down all of your preconceived notions as studying Mathematics. Such as notions of regret for example. Wink



1607. Post 50184014 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: vapourminer on March 15, 2019, 04:14:35 PM
Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data.

The questionnaire seemed to have been valid because if I take a ritalin or adderal as a non-ADHD person it's going to make me wide awake for like 8 hours.  So in order for it to make you fall asleep, you really do have some sort of ADHD.

or some other medical condition that ritalin is used to treat.

source: me. i take it for something else (documented by many tests and several MDs). and yes i can fall asleep on it.

EDIT this may not prove someone does NOT have ADHD, as the ADHD may be masked (and also even treated as a side effect of the ritalin) by the other condition for which someone is actually prescribed it for. i have never been formally diagnosed with ADHD.
The way you argue here is identical to how you argue in Math by the way. Just to elaborate on my previous posts.


And regarding the topic. Is there any reason for me to look for whatever you might be having now, given that I don't take my prescription? I feel pretty much perfectly healthy, but wouldn't want to potentially let something unnoticed that could come back at me some day.



1608. Post 50184136 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 15, 2019, 04:19:25 PM
These people are clueless.  There are three main religions.  Christianity is the ONLY all-inclusive, benign one out of those three.  The other two:  the evil cult of Judaism and militant Islam, are focused entirely on tribal warfare, killing or enslaving the outsiders who are not a part of your group, or otherwise treating them vastly different than your own group.  Both Judaism and Islam state it's perfectly fine to lie non-Muslims or Jews for instance.  It's also allowed for Jews to steal from 'goyim' and do other things.  Many Rabbi even state it's okay to steal a goyim's organs to benefit the life of a Jew.

Why do you think the Jews run the fucking human organ trafficking rings?  They're practicing exactly what they preach.  It's not even some random, non-religious, lunatic Jew doing it, it's the actual Rabbi themselves:

https://www.haaretz.com/israelis-exposed-in-organ-trafficking-1.5259773

I tend to ignore any bullshit comes out of ass mouth but I couldn't this time.

Christianity is as dirty as other two.

You act like you know so much yet you "forgot" to mention the crusades.

Here, you can educate yourself here for free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

The church was sucking the blood of people before the French revolution in Europe. (maybe they still do, but not as much)

Fuck all religions.
I don't know shit about this, but were the Crusades not a reaction to Islamic global conquest? In either case though I agree, fuck religion.


However, there is one line of defense I would like to give for it.

Prayer I believe could be an extremely useful tool. I'm pretty sure no sky daddy is going to respond to it. But it is a form of silent contemplation, something that modern humans seemingly lost entirely due to the constant exposure to flashy stimuli and instant gratification. Sitting down in silence and thinking about what you care enough about in your life to pray to some God to is a great tool when it comes to readjusting your own inner compass.
I don't think religion is needed for it, I certainly had no need for it. But if it gets people to do what they otherwise would not, then at least that aspect would be a net positive. No different from "meditation" or a lone walk through nature though. Or a good drink while sitting down and listening to an album that gets your thoughts going.

Also, religious scripture has some striking similarities to contemporary science. I've been wondering if some of the people writing it might have had an intuitive understanding of reality and used the limited language and tools they had to try and communicate it. But of course, once things get popular they attract lunatics and become corrupted, as is self-evident.



1609. Post 50184214 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 15, 2019, 04:44:30 PM
The only way out for humanity is culture.

"Culture is the freedom of people."

Forgotten 500 years ago, the damage is done.

If we do not fight for education, respect and values, we go to the destruction.
Respect and values absolutely.

Education is a bit tricky, since what passes as such today is utter garbage so fighting to maintain it could stop us from making progress on that front. You don't want hardcore education-conservatives when education in its current form is too shitty to be worth conserving.

Culture is also a little too vague. The Nazis and Mayans for example had an interesting culture, but I'm sure we don't want either back.



1610. Post 50184312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 15, 2019, 05:03:35 PM
I went from being a poor person that everybody claimed would amount to nothing to a degree in Math and self-made fortune. Mostly thanks to a game with proper incentive structures. And I want to recreate the experience for future generations, if I can. Not everybody wants to sacrifice their lives for "the greater good". Especially when the world seems to be set against you. But with the right incentives people might just end up doing so while enjoying themselves.

Are you talking about bitcoin as "a game" in which you were able to accumulate a "self-made fortune"?

In one regard, you seem to be describing a kind of math elitism, rather than a world in which everyone can self-describe their actions and their ways of achieving self-realization or whatever that may be for them. So in that regard, there are various degrees of math, logic and emotions.  We are not completely mathematical beings so people engage in a lot of conduct based on emotions and even errors of logic or adequate facts.

Even with the "right incentives" it can take a whole hell of a long time for value to flow into something like bitcoin, and maybe even a world with out distractions and snake-oil salesmen might be too unrealistic of a wish.. because scams and scums are likely going to continue to exist and suck in both innocent and well-intended people.  

Do you think that we can change those kinds of seemingly likely and what I would consider to be "human nature" dynamics that are not all math-based and logical?  And, how you going to make sure that people are both exposed to the correct facts, and then thereafter are ready, willing and able to assign proper or even reasonable weight to such facts?  
No, refer to this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg50169964#msg50169964


Yes, absolutely. Again refer to above post. Math is irrelevant here, although even a very basic understanding of it is one of the most powerful tools in the human arsenal.



1611. Post 50184375 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2019, 05:06:59 PM
I tend to ignore any bullshit comes out of ass mouth but I couldn't this time.
Christianity is as dirty as other two.
You act like you know so much yet you "forgot" to mention the crusades.
Crusades are the campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean aimed at recovering the Holy Land from Muslim rule
According to the Muslims, they were protecting the Holy Land from the Christians.
How about that?

Touché.

It's all a matter of perspective.

This is why we can't all just get along.
Fundamental nature of reality at work here.

Keep in mind that some experiences can only be had because not everybody can agree on a perspective. Otherwise we'd quickly merge into one single entity.

"Love your neighbour" gets a whole new meaning from this angle, even if said neighbour is your death-sworn enemy. Incidentally, we have an equivalent axiom in science, namely to keep biases in check and not discard the contrary of your assertions. Same thing, different words to express it.



1612. Post 50184398 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 05:08:45 PM
According to the Muslims, they were protecting the Holy Land from the Christians.
How about that?

It's possible both the Jews and the Muslims are so inbred their minds are completely disconnected from reality:


Are you suggesting that Soros' forced multiculturalism is a net benefit due to the reduction of breeding within a single homogeneous population?



1613. Post 50184613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 05:34:04 PM
'Religion is the root of all evil' is proven once again

or money

Maybe you don't even distinguish between the 2

Or maybe if you guys weren't noobs you probably would have noticed it's not really even possible to define the word "evil" without religious context.
It's not possible to define any word without context. Even if people used language as formally defined it would be ambiguous as a direct result.



1614. Post 50184627 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 15, 2019, 02:06:15 PM
Actually you might have persuaded me that 2 + 2 doesn’t necessarily equal 4.  You might have gotten me there.

I haven’t responded because I am still thinking about it.  To your point, it’s not a topic I know a lot about.

 Just to add to the shades of grey; the numeral 4 doesn't even exist in base 2 and 3 number systems and while it exists in the base 4 number system as a descriptor,  2+2=10

edit: Help!  I've fallen behind in the thread and I can't catch up.
How did I miss this post, damn. Could you please toss me some keywords to the 2+2=10 thing?



1615. Post 50184664 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 15, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Saudi Arabia is safe as long as the west needs their oil. As soon as we don't need it anymore they better make sure they are friends with us or they will be up shit creek without a paddle.
They are making many investments, not sure with how much success. But investments aren't going to fund a country. So they'd have to start taxing its population. Wonder how long until people will start speaking out against their kings and princes at a time where they would be funding all the horseshit the Saudi royal family does directly.



1616. Post 50184883 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
So you admit you are religious obviously, otherwise, by your own logic, you would not use the term Hell or Devil.

I simply stated using the phrase "religion is the root of all evil" is an oxymoron since you can't define "evil" without a religious context.  As for what I believe personally, I state what the evidence of the observable universe shows here:

https://steemit.com/science/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-25-computer-science-proves-the-existence-of-a-variable-known-as-god-but-not-what-god-actually-is
I'd define the prime mover as empty consciousness. Or more precisely nothing.

That which is no thing (mind the space) is consciousness and the prime mover of everything.

Without consciousness even a particle would have no awareness of gravity, and gravity would have no awareness of what it acts upon.

It is also why consciousness is the hard question of science and philosophy, because it is the only thing that can not make reference to itself.

In the Bible it's the logos. In science it's the state at t = 0 of the big bang. In a human life it's the time of birth. We are nothing, we come from nowhere, we fill ourselves with experience, and then we return to nothing. That which moves us is the prime mover.

If you think about it, an omniscient omnipresent and omnipotent God would be aware of every moment that is to come at the same time. This implies that God experiences no change, otherwise he would not be omniscient. In order for God to experience anything he must discard knowledge in order to create time by recollecting the information (what we call remembering). This also provides a strong case for the seemingly fractal nature of the universe.

One implication is that we are all one and the same, but looking at "things" from different perspectives in space and time. Which again, shines a different light on "love thy neighbour as thyself" (for he is you and you are him).



1617. Post 50184963 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2019, 06:13:24 PM
I’m not going to reveal what I voted because it would possibly reveal how many coins I have.

 Full Disclosure: I voted 1000+ BTC in the poll.

 Right now, I'd consider 1000 BTC @ $4k not being a "fuckyoucoiner"

 2022 time-frame, however, well, let us discuss the issues further, on our WO Private Islands.

 It would be neat for all of us to just buy out an entire archipelago, and turn it into some sort of fruity libertarian utopia.

 Every Thursday, we could scoot around on our jet-skis-made-up-as-mock-pirate-ships, and Nerf-Rocket the shit out of JJG's island.

 Saturday nights would be designated weekly party night DJ'd by yours truly, and hosted by Big Dicked Ginger Rick on our island.

 LFC_Bitcoin would be in charge of pharmaceuticals.

 Mic and CryptoQueen could rock the bar.

 I mean, I can dare to dream, right ?
If we can make this work in a way that guarantees safety I would be more than interested in this. Although I would suggest that we'd set up some learning outlets as well as think up random new shit to try out. A regular schedule of learning instruments for example. Also gaming nights?

Basically just keep things varied enough to not get bored while not just outright turning into a retired super rich consumer drone. Not sure what a good balance of laziness and challenge would be though, but at such a time we could probably get someone to plan shit from us and have them adjust it based on everybody's input.


Also, a fucking Takeshi's Castle type parkour course? A racing track?



1618. Post 50184986 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 15, 2019, 06:17:09 PM
I've seen this shit 1000 times before.  The second any of this stuff starts coming out of someone's mouth, the market immediately implodes afterwards.  There's contrarian investing for you.
It's more about the mass of people doing this. I've been thinking about the future in similar ways all the way down. Right now most people are still scared, otherwise the market would've heated up significantly.



1619. Post 50185013 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 15, 2019, 06:20:18 PM
+ 3 Merit’s for putting a smile on my face. It ain't no dream Bob, it’s a premonition - 2022 or early 2023.
2025~2030ish.

Need two waves to get x10k without extremely lucky shitcoin picking. And I doubt that we'd have 500~1000m combined to go x50~ and thus be able to just get that plan going as if it were buying candy.



1620. Post 50185028 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 15, 2019, 06:45:37 PM
Ill bring a few boxes of cool records if that technology is supported

 Cool
Hell yeah, vinyl ftw.



1621. Post 50185116 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 15, 2019, 08:39:09 PM


What’s he been smoking?
Not sure, but I need to know. For science. Roll Eyes



1622. Post 50185131 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 15, 2019, 08:45:08 PM
Every Thursday, we could scoot around on our jet-skis-made-up-as-mock-pirate-ships, and Nerf-Rocket the shit out of JJG's island.
............ I mean, I can dare to dream, right ?
Remember what happened to Snowball in Animal Farm?  or Piggy in Lord of the Flies?
Not looking good for JJG in this "dream".
I studied Lord Of The Flies at school for English GCSE, got a B grade lol.
As soon as dat conch got smashed shit started going down Cheesy
Ahhhh memories of being at school - What a waste of time that was.

OK. See... I have wordy-man on ignore, so I would not normally see his post, but he has a terribly bad attitude about this possible utopia.

He's not thinking of "fun-factor" for defensive purposes on his end.

Can you imagine ? Coconut trebuchets, slings, and cannons, for example, aimed with some level of skill at us scooting Nerf-Gun-Pirates ?

At worst, some dude gets knocked the fuck off his scooter, life-jacket comes into play, and "pirate-squad" immediately tends to any fallen team-mates.

At best, coconuts float on water, so we'll have a bountiful harvest upon retreat.

Perhaps we up our game, and develop jet-skis with some sort of hydrostatic-pressure based mobile cannons, capable of returning the coconuts, softly, back to JJG's island.

Do I have to plan EVERYTHING ?!??

Please continue.



1623. Post 50185257 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: rebal15 on March 15, 2019, 11:35:04 PM
No christian women. Which is what matters.

What kind of retarded answer is that?

Any way. I am tired of you. Back to the ignore list.
Nope. Justify your position. Why are muslims better than christians according to you?

No one is better i’m raised a christian.... though later seen my mother supposed to be far far far jewish (also raised christian as her mom, but its a mother to daughter and so on going thing.....) but as a baptist christian and been raised one (not hard never really went to Church)
Only on the childshool ..... cause both my parents weren’t busy with anything of religion
But i have friends from al kinds of religion and i never think i’m better as any of them
I sometimes just think its pity those living the extreme religion lives cause they really mis so much in live
Land that Goes for all the religion peeps i can understand one believing in something, but don’t live the extreme lives cause nobody Ask to do that .....

the best religion is science, it explains everything with real evidence, it explains the differences with a logic that convinces people. religions speak of the relationship between human beings and god. science speaks of the relationships between human beings and their environment including nature.
Tautology.

But yes.



1624. Post 50185358 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 16, 2019, 04:10:18 AM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?



1625. Post 50185479 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 16, 2019, 05:58:34 AM
Our awkward bastard step children ltc and eth are both up well over 5% today..can we and perhaps a better question, should we be matching them? Breaking above 4.2k would be a 5% gain for btc today. Also of note is that there hasent been but a small closeout of shorts.

You have provided an exacting set of background facts that should justify a decent BTC shorts-a-squeezing.. let's say, at least to $4,500, just to siphon them out even though $4,900-ish would be nicer to make it an even-Steven $1k upwards movement....

BTC is like USA among other crypto now.

It is a lot bigger than others so it is way harder to move it upwards or downwards.

A small shitty country can grow %10+ in a year and that still wouldn't make them happy and on the other hand, when USA grows %3 in a year they celebrate it for days.

Shitcoins are like those are small countries.

It is probably too late but I wish I bought more LTC While it was $30.
If you do you may want to throw <0.5 of your 5 BTC at shitcoin projects. Do thorough research and make sure to dump on the way up though. They are generally hit and run in the short to medium term and only few will prosper in the long run.
But opportunities are abundant and will remain to be so for a while. Just don't get greedy and use too many of your hard earned BTC or you'll fuck yourself over. 10% is a solid upper limit that will neither hurt you substantially nor produce so little return that it'd be a waste of time.
Also gets you to study the space more, and I have no doubt that shitcoins will be the new fundraising method for entrepreneurs as the space matures.



1626. Post 50185498 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on March 16, 2019, 01:35:28 AM
Can this child get a bann? He is telling racis things and still he can speak on this forum..
It's called freedom of speech. If you want to solve problems you need to be able to learn about them, and if he is a problem to you then you have nothing to gain by muting him.



1627. Post 50185574 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 16, 2019, 09:21:21 AM
ibian, are you really serious?
Can this child get a bann? He is telling racis things and still he can speak on this forum..

Anything I don't agree with is racist and should be banned.  Let's start by banning all the Jews, you know, the racists who took control of Russia then killed 20-40 million white Christian Russians and most of Germany too:



(((Ehrenburg)))

Ten out of ten Jews agree guns need to be banned to make the goyim easier to enslave and to facilitate the Kalergi plan.
The irony. His name appears German.



1628. Post 50185613 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2019, 09:27:01 AM
We have plenty of coal allegedly

Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars.  So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars.  The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries.  Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials.

As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die.
Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money.

I instead to be 100% energy self sufficient (car & house) within the next 24 months.  Currently have a Powerwall2 on order so I can capture my solar for night time use instead of dumping it into the grid. It’s 13.5kwh so not enough to take me off the grid altogether but I’m getting close.  

Electric car is next. Big oil and the Saudis can go fuck themselves.  Looking at the Taycan, Model 3 Performance but there are some other interesting ones in the pipeline.  Like this electric Peugeot concept.





No need to muck about with nuclear, the future is already here.
My plan as well. Self-sufficiency is always a good idea and I love tech in general, so any way for me to vote with my wallet for the development of technologies is welcome. I can't wait for commercial and efficient full glass solar panels. Will build some sexy shit with that.

Imagine a glass bridge on a pond/lake that happens to be made of solar panels that will illuminate a pavilion in the middle of it. Or a grow-house made out of solar panel glass.



1629. Post 50185641 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2019, 09:46:08 AM

As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.

[2+2 <> 4]

quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on.

initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings.

i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page  till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled.

too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many.

Honestly it's never to late, especially if you're interested.

When I was doing my Bachelor there was a guy well into his 50s or 60s who was taking all the "real" Math lectures with us as opposed to the dumbed down ones for Economists etc. People were very welcoming towards him and he seemed to be enjoying himself quite a lot. I changed universities throughout my Bachelor to the next city. And found the same guy taking Master level lectures at the new place when I was a bit later (first place was for Economics and Business with focus on Math, second had a proper full blown Math department). So clearly he didn't just attend, he was doing quite well too. And that appeared to be his first time at university in his life as well.

And older people have the big bonus that they may not have to perform or prove anything. You could just study for the sake of it, which takes all the stress away. And their life experiences can make it easier than for most young students who are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with life in the first place.


Be prepared to feel like a complete idiot as you start out, should you choose to do so though. I have not met anyone who didn't at least throughout the better portion of the first semester. But even those come back years later and still find new things they had not considered. The very first minute of the very first lecture that I took I almost fell into despair just looking at the blackboard.

Anyway, not trying to shill you into anything here. But the option is there and worth considering. Especially for those with an appreciation of just thinking about things they don't need to for nothing other than the sake of doing so. There are very few ways that are similarly efficient in breaking down all of your preconceived notions as studying Mathematics. Notions such as regret for example. Wink

My wife and I have agreed we are going back to uni when we retire.  We want to take anthropology courses together.  Maybe I will add some pure math as well following our discussions. 
Great plan! I can't wait to go back eventually to study something out of my field myself. Perhaps music theory, history or philosophy.


If you actually do that and don't know which classes to pick you can send me a list of options over and we can try to figure out together which would best suit your interests.



1630. Post 50185700 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 16, 2019, 10:41:56 AM


I'll come back later, I hope that by then we'll talk about Bitcoin.
Wrong thread my friend.



1631. Post 50185754 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
I’m still working on a basis for numbers being a finite field.  Which makes sense if you think space time is bounded.  Less so if not.  
Finite sets of numbers are just subsets of infinite ones. As such you can nest them within infinite fields without destroying the structure.



1632. Post 50185766 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 16, 2019, 11:50:58 AM
can you guys f***ing tell me what about you're talking??  Shocked Huh

Someone (I forgot who) made some post about there being no absolute truths or somesusch.  I object to this as I think it a cover for all sorts of bad behaviours like “alternative facts” so challenged on the basis that 2+2 always = 4.  

Of course I don’t know any higher order mathematics so was quickly proved wrong.  Now I am trying to understand why I was wrong.  
Some Mathematicians will disagree, but alas. Proof is anything you accept as such, usually whatever is sufficient for you to follow the argument to the end.



1633. Post 50185827 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: criptix on March 16, 2019, 11:57:29 AM
Discrete mathematics, second or third semester of computer science Tongue
Linear algebra, in this case group and field theory. First semester of Mathematics and Physics, sometimes CS as well if you go the Math route. Not necessarily discrete.

It's funny how many different perspectives and approaches even on something as well defined as fields there are.


This wasn't about the Math as much as it was about disputing the existence of absolute/objective truth. Truth depends on perspective, which depends on your assumptions, which depend on your past experiences of life.



1634. Post 50185911 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 16, 2019, 12:10:54 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?
Sure, to people who project their own dark sides a lot. Which is again a primarily low-amygdala trait, or leftie trait. You'll notice you and I didn't get in a spat over it, for example?

My delivery is intentional. People get all kinds of honest when they get riled up. Quickly identifies who is worth my time.

Muslims as a whole will not do that. They would no longer be Muslim. It goes directly against the core of their faith.
If the most prominent Imams led the way to reform most Muslims would follow. Extremism will remain, but slowly dwindle out as it would appear increasingly retarded to throw your life away. Especially when God is all powerful anyways. Why would you harm God's creation if you honour him? And why would God need the help of us foolish mortals?

Also, even people who can't or do not want to debate unpleasant topics as these are worth the time. You can learn how to more efficiently communicate to them, e.g. in a way that gets them to understand your position. At the same time you slowly learn to understand theirs better. The more people try the quicker we'll converge to the sensible middle ground and the lower the chances of a shitstorm become.



1635. Post 50185957 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 16, 2019, 12:24:40 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?

Let's put it that way:

I don't like Islam. I don't want to be associated with Islam neither. I never went to a Mosque. Never Prayed, never did one religious ritual.

As much as I don't like Islam, I also don't like Christianity or Judaism. Any extremists from any of these religions (actually all religions) are the people I don't want to be near of.

Ibian has the right to stay away from the Muslims. He may not like them. He can do those.

But while he is doing that, he also says anything the Christians did in the past was right because it was always the other side who provocated his side.

That's not a healthy way to think imo.
I agree with that. I don't think you have any right to complain about Muslims raping if you condone Christians raping, for whatever reasons. Given the Islamic conquest of the past I may be able to defend the Crusades as a an offensive defense tactic (again I don't know enough about this to talk with any authority). But as soon as you justify rape and torture in the process of your defense you've forfeited the right to stigmatize your opponent, as you become identical.

That said, in some cases demonizing a group of people associated with a type of behaviour could help them wake up and fix the problems within their community. So I'm a bit on the fence about what I should think about Ibian's remarks. I don't know what his intent is when making such.



1636. Post 50186055 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 16, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?
Sure, to people who project their own dark sides a lot. Which is again a primarily low-amygdala trait, or leftie trait. You'll notice you and I didn't get in a spat over it, for example?

My delivery is intentional. People get all kinds of honest when they get riled up. Quickly identifies who is worth my time.

Muslims as a whole will not do that. They would no longer be Muslim. It goes directly against the core of their faith.
If the most prominent Imams led the way to reform most Muslims would follow. Extremism will remain, but slowly dwindle out as it would appear increasingly retarded to throw your life away. Especially when God is all powerful anyways. Why would you harm God's creation if you honour him? And why would God need the help of us foolish mortals?

Also, even people who can't or do not want to debate unpleasant topics as these are worth the time. You can learn how to more efficiently communicate to them, e.g. in a way that gets them to understand your position. At the same time you slowly learn to understand theirs better. The more people try the quicker we'll converge to the sensible middle ground and the lower the chances of a shitstorm become.
If.
Big if, I know. But virtually nobody even seems to be making the argument. I've only really seen people who completely demonize the entire Muslim population and people who are completely ignoring any problems associated and indirectly defending them with "not all Muslims" type arguments.

Neither seems to converge towards a sensible solution that doesn't require war or complete separation of populations.



1637. Post 50186090 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 16, 2019, 12:56:55 PM
Right now most people are still scared, otherwise the market would've heated up significantly.

I would say no.  Zero people in this thread are currently scared their BTC "investment" could evaporate and leave them holding the bag.  They're all currently "HODLing" looking to dump on whatever whale manipulator is dumb enough to try and manipulate it higher.  In such situations where everyone is holding and looking to dump on whoever raises it, the only real way it can go up is if it's a govt created scam to try and distract people away from physical metals and the ESF just sets money on fire to rig the price up and accomplish that task.  Or if the manipulator himself has far more coins than the peons looking to dump on him.
This thread is heavily biased towards die hard Bitcoiners. Terrible sample to base your conclusions on. I regularly check out shitcoiner places, and they're freaking out en masse on a daily basis.


Either way, regardless of your belief, Bitcoin won't go away. It's too efficient compared to legacy finance. So even if it was a scam, legacy finance will be displaced by it. Not sure what your financial goals are, but I'd just skim what I can regardless of my beliefs and then use the gains for whatever I deem valuable.



1638. Post 50186346 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 16, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
Right now most people are still scared, otherwise the market would've heated up significantly.

I would say no.  Zero people in this thread are currently scared their BTC "investment" could evaporate and leave them holding the bag.  They're all currently "HODLing" looking to dump on whatever whale manipulator is dumb enough to try and manipulate it higher.  In such situations where everyone is holding and looking to dump on whoever raises it, the only real way it can go up is if it's a govt created scam to try and distract people away from physical metals and the ESF just sets money on fire to rig the price up and accomplish that task.  Or if the manipulator himself has far more coins than the peons looking to dump on him.
This thread is heavily biased towards die hard Bitcoiners. Terrible sample to base your conclusions on. I regularly check out shitcoiner places, and they're freaking out en masse on a daily basis.

Again, I would say this is totally false as well.  In this forum and every other forum I've seen, the general spam is all "if you buy just 1 bitcoin and HODL you will be a trillionaire".  If you look at any type of web crawler metrics, bitcoin is most popular in the most asinine of places like "incel" forums.  That's all they talk about.  Their general mantra is make believing you can erase 20 years of bad life choices simply by buying some shitcoins.  It's hilarious.  All of this nonsense is based on desperation.

Instead of the smart guys in the room buying low and dumping on the general public, most of these shitcoiners make believe THEY'RE the smart guys in the room (Micgoossens) and will somehow be able to dump on the actual smart guys.  There are so many complete fools and fly by night scammers in craptocurrency that have somehow been able to make profits dumping on some amorphous sky entity that just should not be there to dump on, that anyone with a rational brain at all has had to of questioned just who/what is propping this market up.  

*Cough* a single entity operating on the fraudulent exchange Bitfinex (either Bitmain, Bitfinex owners, TBTF banks, or the ESF) manipulating it all the way from $200 to $20,000 with tethers and other fraud.
There were countless of investments that could've reversed 20 years of bad financial life choices. Doesn't mean it's going to reverse their poor life choices in general. Incels with money will still be incels unless they pay up or otherwise fix their attitude.



1639. Post 50186370 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 16, 2019, 01:20:37 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?

Let's put it that way:

I don't like Islam. I don't want to be associated with Islam neither. I never went to a Mosque. Never Prayed, never did one religious ritual.

As much as I don't like Islam, I also don't like Christianity or Judaism. Any extremists from any of these religions (actually all religions) are the people I don't want to be near of.

Ibian has the right to stay away from the Muslims. He may not like them. He can do those.

But while he is doing that, he also says anything the Christians did in the past was right because it was always the other side who provocated his side.

That's not a healthy way to think imo.
I agree with that. I don't think you have any right to complain about Muslims raping if you condone Christians raping, for whatever reasons. Given the Islamic conquest of the past I may be able to defend the Crusades as a an offensive defense tactic (again I don't know enough about this to talk with any authority). But as soon as you justify rape and torture in the process of your defense you've forfeited the right to stigmatize your opponent, as you become identical.

That said, in some cases demonizing a group of people associated with a type of behaviour could help them wake up and fix the problems within their community. So I'm a bit on the fence about what I should think about Ibian's remarks. I don't know what his intent is when making such.
There may be a factor that is not as commonly known as I thought it should be.

In order to fight a war, you have to demonize the Other. You have to make them Not Human. That's why we give nicknames to other groups of people. Krauts, slant eyes, chinks. Musselmen, sand niggers.

I know an afghan vet, went to school with him long ago. He told me that they call the locals "jallas" cause they yell jalla jalla jalla when they attack. It's a basic psychological principle and we do it automatically.

Why do we do it? Because otherwise we are the ones who end up dead instead of them.

We are at war. That's what terror attacks are, they are acts of war. And as long as we keep pretending that they are Just Like Us, they will keep killing us and we will keep doing nothing. It is literally a matter of survival.
You can dehumanize and fight wars without raping and torturing. You don't consider animals human, but you're not going to run around raping them.



1640. Post 50186423 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 16, 2019, 01:29:47 PM
We have plenty of coal allegedly

Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars.  So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars.  The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries.  Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials.

As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die.
Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money.

I instead to be 100% energy self sufficient (car & house) within the next 24 months.  Currently have a Powerwall2 on order so I can capture my solar for night time use instead of dumping it into the grid. It’s 13.5kwh so not enough to take me off the grid altogether but I’m getting close.  

Electric car is next. Big oil and the Saudis can go fuck themselves.  Looking at the Taycan, Model 3 Performance but there are some other interesting ones in the pipeline.  Like this electric Peugeot concept.

https://i.ibb.co/nM9q9jb/44-B453-B0-BBB0-4-B72-BACE-726-D75-FC29-A6.jpg



No need to muck about with nuclear, the future is already here.

Dammit HM i like you very much.... but don’t go electric on cars let us humans keep cars and Bikes on oil engines, i like them so much

Hope this doesn’t make me a bad person Roll Eyes
No it doesn't.

But let me propose that we restrain oil cars to specifically designed race tracks in the future and keep streets that are meant for transport and travel automated and electric. That way we can have the best of both worlds while minimizing the down sides: pollution and accidents.



1641. Post 50186793 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 16, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
I was really concerned when we fell from the ATH of $19,xxx to the bottom

How is it humanely possible you did not see that coming?  It was a parabolic manipulation rise.  Even at $10,000 I was like "lol this is an Enron scam".

Good you were one of the SUPER smart Guys and went out @ 5-6-700 bucks
Good enough for a few extra years of internet useage to troll this thread with your bitterness and salty’ness

Buuuuuuuut good you already saw it coming from miles before the rest of us
Touche.


Quote from: El duderino_ on March 16, 2019, 01:51:12 PM
At least Adam used to delete Roach when he got too out of hand, for some reason infofront is providing a platform for them

WoW chill out on out very own headmaster thanos/trump boss ——> infofront, once when mymenace or something was out of line always repeating real stupid/dumb wanna play a game sh*t was messing around the thread.... i saw infofront acting agressively and deleting all of that shit....
In this discussion if one doesn’t like it and doesn’t answer it, Then it would stop after 1-2 max 3 Posts
So still many pages discussed the issue but its at least about something, and with again we get to know Some Guys in here and what they really think or how F***ed up Some can be
Read and learn something more about your fellow WO members

@infofront keep doing your sh*t you rock WO-brother!!!!!!
All of this.



1642. Post 50187695 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on March 16, 2019, 02:36:30 PM
It really is disappointing reading dumb racist shit on a BTC forum. The contrast between such brilliant technology built to cross over and even tear down boundaries on the one side, and the small mindedness on the other is just shockingly large. How these people can entertain both realities is a mystery to me. Get the fuck out of your basements and go out and meet people you ignorant racist fucks!

I disagree on this. I think a new and brilliant technology invites all sorts of crazy and it benefits from the crazy people. I read the WO thread everyday because of this reason. I have nobody on ignore because I find all these kinds of different perspectives super interesting. I wouldn't want to read the WO thread if it gets heavily censored. Let people like r0ach and Ibian make racists remarks who cares, let Bob posts pics of green dildo's, let JJG write up super long paragraphs. This is what makes this thread the best place on this forum.


Like the famous Apple commercial:

Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Someone merit this man.

Edit: Never mind. I had one more than I thought.



1643. Post 50187749 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 15, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Not one pi was observed yesterday..for shame on you all...or at least a few of you anyway.


Today after logging in most of the pages I am looking at appear like this. It seems my work here is done.

#stronghands
Merited for pie day. But cute little self-induced echo chamber there. And he dares talk about objectivity. Roll Eyes

Edit: Also Hawking's death day and Einstein's birthday for those who were unaware. The universe works in mysterious ways.


Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 16, 2019, 03:27:52 PM
Someone merit this man.

It’s done, my child.
Thank you very much.



1644. Post 50188221 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on March 16, 2019, 03:57:14 PM

Racism and wishing death on children is fucking dumb as a bag of rocks though. Green dildos and meandering diatribes don't fall in the same category as blatant evil.

I do agree with you about the "heavily censored" part, though. And that's what the ignore button is for -- individualized censorship preferences.

I agree they do not fall in the same category. But we are all WO participants, we all fall in that "category".

Racist remarks and wishing death on people, meh who cares? We humans have been killing each other for thousands of years, that isn't going to change anytime soon. If people get offended by their posts, go get your emotions in check, they are just words on a forum. We are on a Bitcoin forum, we need to learn to master our emotions in order to gain more sweet and delicious corn!
What a way to tie back into Bitcorn and speak sense at the same time.


Emotions are an important aspect of life though and we would be ill-advised to discard them entirely. They're the other side of the coin and need to be balanced out with reason. Similarly going overboard with reason is a poor idea as well. You can reason your way into anything you want, not matter how grotesque. Without both reason and emotion things tilt off to the extremes.

I'm sure I don't have to point out who in this thread tilts too hard towards reason and who tilts too hard towards emotion at times. We all know who we are. The question is what we make of it.



1645. Post 50188769 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 16, 2019, 04:43:19 PM
Discard your cognitive dissonance, open up yourself to all kinds of crazy ideas, theories, opinions and learn from it.

Nope, not opening myself up to close-mindedness. The only thing I really learned from this thread in the past couple days* is that some really perverse people are into bitcoin, but I guess I knew that already...

*That's not completely true, I learn something almost every time I click on this thread.
Opening up to is not the same as embracing something and all of its implications. If the US hadn't opened up to even looking at what was going on in Germany it wouldn't have stopped Hitler. And maybe if the right people opened up to Hitler he would've never gone down the path that he did.

Also, I strongly believe that the way in which you interact with things you hate strongly impacts the way you look at things you love. Closing off to aspects of one I believe could cause one to close off to aspects of what you love, for better and for worse.

And then, if one can't look at things he hates with an open mind then that suggests to me that their conviction has been flimsy at best in the first place.

You don't have to convince anyone and you don't have to be convinced by anyone during a conversation. And even without doing so you can always skim off some new information or perspective from the exchange.

I also firmly believe that you can not even begin to fully appreciate reality without remaining open to and learning from all aspects of it. After all, even our biggest enemies and the worst atrocities are part of the reality we find ourselves in. As a result, we are fundamentally incapable of understanding reality without really understanding our enemies. And we can't understand our enemies without engaging with them.



1646. Post 50188861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 16, 2019, 05:09:27 PM
Can this child get a bann? He is telling racis things and still he can speak on this forum..
It's called freedom of speech. If you want to solve problems you need to be able to learn about them, and if he is a problem to you then you have nothing to gain by muting him.

It's not freedom of speech.  It is off topic, and even if a ban would not be warranted, surely deleting posts is a discretionary option.... especially for the mere degree of derailing this thread.......
You're regularly "off-topic" yourself (for example right now). And I was under the impression that it was established by the majority of us, including you, that these off-topic conversations were what made this thread so interesting and fun to come back to?



1647. Post 50188885 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 16, 2019, 05:11:02 PM
Bounced off $4k and now re-building for stabilization.

Fingers crossed for finding stability by Monday, and testing $4,100 by next Friday.

Everything seems to be proceeding according to plan.

Slow and steady.

HODL.
Are you aware of any geographical locations that could turn The WO Islands (name pending) into a reality without having to worry about actual pirates or other random twats attacking and looting?



1648. Post 50199725 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Syke on March 17, 2019, 11:06:26 AM
I have been driving both cars and trucks for a living for almost twenty years, so I know how important it is to be in control of the vehicle, there are many tricky situations that I would never trust the car/truck with. Having said that, I don't mind letting the car drive when my control is not needed, but I do want that to bee my choice.

That's cuz you're thinking in today's technology. 20 years ago, Quake II was state of the art. 20 years from now, I don't want it to be your choice, because you'll be the one causing accidents. You cannot compete with computer vision technology.
Very much this.

Today's algorithms already shit all over humans on much more complex tasks than driving a car by the way. They completely destroy the global top teams in Starcraft 2 and Dota 2 respectively. And those games have a search space that is orders of magnitude more complex, even without considering the fact that cars virtually only have to react to things that are temporally very close to "now". Those games use predictions that span much further into the future.

Of course, I would be all for having "open streets" between key locations, where human drivers can choose to drive if they have a death wish. But safety for everybody involved should take priority, so if there's only one road available it should be driverless. And again, specifically designed race tracks can serve for human driving as a form of entertainment (which I would heavily partake in).



1649. Post 50199750 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on March 17, 2019, 10:25:14 AM
we are a bunch of psychos!  Grin Grin

for real. everone is posting the shit he is interested in almost without responding to the shit the other psychos had posted.
That's just life in a nutshell.



1650. Post 50199813 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 16, 2019, 05:43:23 PM
Are you aware of any geographical locations that could turn The WO Islands (name pending) into a reality without having to worry about actual pirates or other random twats attacking and looting?

 Actually, no. Have not considered researching "reasonable" archipelagos. Yet.

 With respect to dealing with actual pirates and twats, I think it should go without saying that some (many?) of us would be importing enough of our personal arsenals to be able to properly defend "WOlandia" against small incursions.

 I'm fairly certain we have enough "big brains" in this thread that we could properly weaponize coconuts to sink distant ships, if absolutely necessary.

 I suspect JJG will be leading the defense forces, due to the constant defensive evolution of his island with "Nerf-Grenade JJG's Island Thursdays" planned.

 No Lord of the Flies shit. Honest !

 That would be strictly limited to r0aches island.

 I like the idea of planning activities for each day of the week.

Would we erect a temple to The Flying Spaghetti Monster on an Island, attend services with White Russians and Beer every Sunday morning, dressed as pirates, for example ?
Sounds like a plan.

And damn, most of the islands on the next page look pretty small. We'd quickly run out of space on just about any of those.



1651. Post 50199868 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 16, 2019, 06:01:01 PM

Racism and wishing death on children is fucking dumb as a bag of rocks though. Green dildos and meandering diatribes don't fall in the same category as blatant evil.

I do agree with you about the "heavily censored" part, though. And that's what the ignore button is for -- individualized censorship preferences.

I agree they do not fall in the same category. But we are all WO participants, we all fall in that "category".

Racist remarks and wishing death on people, meh who cares? We humans have been killing each other for thousands of years, that isn't going to change anytime soon. If people get offended by their posts, go get your emotions in check, they are just words on a forum. We are on a Bitcoin forum, we need to learn to master our emotions in order to gain more sweet and delicious corn!
What a way to tie back into Bitcorn and speak sense at the same time.


Emotions are an important aspect of life though and we would be ill-advised to discard them entirely. They're the other side of the coin and need to be balanced out with reason. Similarly going overboard with reason is a poor idea as well. You can reason your way into anything you want, not matter how grotesque. Without both reason and emotion things tilt off to the extremes.

I'm sure I don't have to point out who in this thread tilts too hard towards reason and who tilts too hard towards emotion at times. We all know who we are. The question is what we make of it.
No, it's the opposite. You can emotion your way into whatever you want. That's how they can call anyone to the right of Marx fascists and at the same time dismiss any argument they don't like by calling people flat earthers. They do not think, they decide on the result they want and damn anyone who says otherwise.

Reason is objective. It is constraining. I, for example, don't want hundreds of millions of people to die over the next few decades. But they will. And I still welcome anyone who can prove otherwise with something other than "lol fascist".
There is no such thing as "objective", as the 2+2=0 example was meant to illustrate.

Depending on your assumptions you will arrive at different conclusions. Depending on your experiences, you arrive at different assumptions.

And with just purely reason there is nothing to stop you from picking assumptions in ways that you wouldn't with a healthy dose of appreciation of life. One could probably make an irrefutable case for the annihilation of humanity using just reason alone. And one could convince themselves that the reasoning is flawless, with reasoning. It takes emotion and empathy to appreciate humanity despite its many shortcomings. Just like it takes reasoning to counteract the retarded conclusions raw emotion can lead to.



1652. Post 50200261 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 17, 2019, 01:39:48 PM

Racism and wishing death on children is fucking dumb as a bag of rocks though. Green dildos and meandering diatribes don't fall in the same category as blatant evil.

I do agree with you about the "heavily censored" part, though. And that's what the ignore button is for -- individualized censorship preferences.

I agree they do not fall in the same category. But we are all WO participants, we all fall in that "category".

Racist remarks and wishing death on people, meh who cares? We humans have been killing each other for thousands of years, that isn't going to change anytime soon. If people get offended by their posts, go get your emotions in check, they are just words on a forum. We are on a Bitcoin forum, we need to learn to master our emotions in order to gain more sweet and delicious corn!
What a way to tie back into Bitcorn and speak sense at the same time.


Emotions are an important aspect of life though and we would be ill-advised to discard them entirely. They're the other side of the coin and need to be balanced out with reason. Similarly going overboard with reason is a poor idea as well. You can reason your way into anything you want, not matter how grotesque. Without both reason and emotion things tilt off to the extremes.

I'm sure I don't have to point out who in this thread tilts too hard towards reason and who tilts too hard towards emotion at times. We all know who we are. The question is what we make of it.
No, it's the opposite. You can emotion your way into whatever you want. That's how they can call anyone to the right of Marx fascists and at the same time dismiss any argument they don't like by calling people flat earthers. They do not think, they decide on the result they want and damn anyone who says otherwise.

Reason is objective. It is constraining. I, for example, don't want hundreds of millions of people to die over the next few decades. But they will. And I still welcome anyone who can prove otherwise with something other than "lol fascist".
There is no such thing as "objective", as the 2+2=0 example was meant to illustrate.

Depending on your assumptions you will arrive at different conclusions. Depending on your experiences, you arrive at different assumptions.

And with just purely reason there is nothing to stop you from picking assumptions in ways that you wouldn't with a healthy dose of appreciation of life. One could probably make an irrefutable case for the annihilation of humanity using just reason alone. And one could convince themselves that the reasoning is flawless, with reasoning. It takes emotion and empathy to appreciate humanity despite its many shortcomings. Just like it takes reasoning to counteract the retarded conclusions raw emotion can lead to.
Yes there is. You can pretend gravity doesn't affect you, that at a certain point it loops back and makes you able to fly, but fantasy remains fantasy and you remain stuck to the earth. Same with math. You don't get to redefine it. It is not based on assumptions. We did not invent it, we merely discovered how it works.
Why are you trying to tell a Mathematician what Math is? It's "the most objective thing" that we have. But it all depends on assumptions. We literally structure every single theorem as: Assumptions, Claim, Proof.

Literally the entire body of Mathematics, and thus by extension of science, is circular in its very being. We have simply agreed upon a cut-off point at which we stop arguing, namely axioms.

Math is literally built around axioms, which we pulled out of our ass forever ago based on our experience of reality. An experience which is fundamentally limited by the capacity of our senses. Senses which are so poor that we have to create all sorts of tools, based on our imperfect senses, to attempt to converge towards a deeper understanding of reality. None of which has been objective so far.

Why do you think that science keeps calling out lunatics which turn out geniuses every so many generations? Will keep happening by the way, because reality is pliable and not objective. It keeps changing, or evolving if you will. It might appear objective to you, but that's just because of incomplete knowledge. As soon as you understand gravity completely you know how to nullify or invert its effects. Things we have partially achieved by creating artificial zero-gravity environments.

No such thing as objectivity when it comes to reality. It only appears so on some scales and is a useful concept for the identification of solutions to problems we have subjectively identified.



1653. Post 50200304 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 17, 2019, 01:51:00 PM
Again, we did not invent math. It is an inherent property of the universe. It's like saying that gravity depends on assumptions, which is why I used that example. You can't reason physical reality into producing nothing when adding two somethings. And your credentials as a mathematician does nothing to change this.
Today at 01:49:15 PM

Today at 01:51:00 PM


1:45 minutes.

You didn't even read the post. You're not a Mathematician. You don't know what you're talking about. And you're not even trying to learn about that which you talk about with authority from someone who actually spent half his life studying it.


Also, Math is certainly not a property. It's a language. The most accurate we have for describing the universe, but certainly not a property of it.



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You can't reason physical reality into producing nothing when adding two somethings.
Yes you can, it's called matter anti-matter annihilation.



1654. Post 50200387 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 17, 2019, 01:56:26 PM
Again, we did not invent math. It is an inherent property of the universe. It's like saying that gravity depends on assumptions, which is why I used that example. You can't reason physical reality into producing nothing when adding two somethings. And your credentials as a mathematician does nothing to change this.
Today at 01:49:15 PM

Today at 01:51:00 PM


1:45 minutes.

You didn't even read the post. You're not a Mathematician. You don't know what you're talking about. And you're not even trying to learn about that which you talk about with authority from someone who actually spent half his life studying it.


Also, Math is certainly not a property. It's a language. The most accurate we have for describing the universe, but certainly not a property of it.
Unfortunately reading the first sentence was enough to understand the content of the entire post. It's a skill I have developed when arguing with lefties, and reading it post-post confirmed it.

You are arguing from emotion here, not thinking with the thinking part of the brain. I suggest a break.
Cognitive dissonance here.

If you can make a rigorous argument how Math has not been invented I'll concede.

You have to go from the fact that every piece of Mathematical Theory (which is the basis of all science) starts from an assumption. Demonstrate how these assumptions can be inherently non-subjective given our limited capacity to even perceive the world.


You're getting defensive by the way. You haven't disputed any of my post, you're starting to go full Toxic here.



1655. Post 50200543 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 17, 2019, 01:57:16 PM
As we understand things at the current time.

This is not a yes no state, it is a continual evolution and revolution.


That's pretty much the crux of it. We start from axioms, try to derive what we can from them and based on new assumptions we try to use the same axioms to make up new information. But you always come back to the axioms, which are no more than an arbitration based on how some ancient group of people perceived the world. It shouldn't come as any surprise that these axioms will be revisited more thoroughly and reevaluated once we can actually perceive the universe in a more accurate way.

All of our senses are only able to perceive a fraction of what we measure in science. And what we measure in science is barely good enough to approximate 5% of the observable universe. Never mind the infinity beyond the horizon of the CMB.

Anyone who thinks that we have any claim to objectivity when we can only explain 5% of what we can see with state of the art tools is running around willfully blindfolded.



1656. Post 50200621 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Also, given the etymology and definition of the word:

Code:
a new method, idea, product, etc.

Math is not just an innovation, but is constantly being re-innovated on a second-to-second basis.



1657. Post 50200938 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 17, 2019, 02:16:58 PM
You have described a clock.

Maybe it's useful as a tool for producing some kind of machine or programming or whatever, but without some kind of context to explain what you are trying to do beyond the obvious, the result is still 4.
No, I have not described a clock. Clocks don't perform operations.

Context has been given, but you're cherry picking what you want to use to pretend that your reasoning abilities somehow make you superior. They don't. Your reasoning is heavily flawed, much more so than HM's appeal to emotion. He's trying to learn. Toxic and you don't. You're literally equivalent to him (Toxic) and only accepting what you already believe, while running away from arguments you clearly aren't equipped to hold.

Whole point of the finite fields was to demonstrate that objectivity as you seem to understand it is nonsense. No more than a result of evolution simplifying the non-objective reality for the sake of energy conservation.

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Call math a language if you want, doesn't change anything. If it is a language that describes reality then it is reality you are dealing with. And with that I'm done with this topic.
English describes reality. Extremely poorly.


And again, you've completely ignored the fact that all of Math starts from assumptions. Assumptions which are de facto subjective. You can be "done" and pout all you want, but to use your words, that won't change reality. And if you want to go the "reason" and "objectivity" route, then my experience in Mathematics certainly gives me more authority to speak on this topic than you will ever achieve given my head-start. And the fact remains, Mathematics is a subjective language. Literally a language that is subject to the capacity of human thought. Which is self-evidently limited in scope.

You can't even begin to make an argument with similar rigour to that of a Mathematical proof in English. As such, you have sufficiently demonstrated your complete (current) lack of capacity for understanding the nature of it.

You clearly don't have your emotions in control either, otherwise you would've conceded that your reasoning is insufficient rather than becoming defensive. And here we go full circle to emotion/reasoning being a spectrum that is optimized with equal parts of both. Each to keep the other in check.



1658. Post 50204190 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 17, 2019, 06:10:01 PM
I think we have already talked about it or I read it in news. I can't recall properly.

Here
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Gold has roughly $7 trillion outstanding. If Bitcoin were to replace gold and its market cap soared to $7 trillion, each Bitcoin would be worth around $333,333.

After all 21 million BTC have been mined, Blumer says Bitcoin’s transaction fees will increase but additional scaling solutions, like the Lightning Network, will create cheaper options for transacting Bitcoin.
- EOS Founder
https://dailyhodl.com/2019/03/17/eos-founders-massive-bitcoin-prediction-plus-ripple-and-xrp-ethereum-tron-litecoin-stellar-cardano/

Laughable scammer spam - it is the EOS guy after all.  Shitcoins have built-in middlemen and do not remove counterparty risk.  Any non-fungible instrument is also a permissioned ledger by default.  Even Infofront in this thread has had coins BLOCKED by Coinbase.  He's not a crackdealer or anything (that I know of).  Shitcoins are strictly pump and dump scams and nothing more.  

Anyone that believed the market cap of both metals and digital shitcoins had topped out, they would always choose metals over shitcoins if forced to pick one to store value in simply because it requires a black hole hitting the earth to destroy metals while shitcoins can die from a million different black swans.  This is why metals will ALWAYS be the base of Exter's Pyramid and it's completely impossible for imaginary, valueless tokens to defeat them.
I would be surprised if there weren't people making the same remarks about stocks and other forms of equity when they first emerged. Same story with any form of currency. Go try to explain money to some native tribe, pretty sure they'll call it a scam as well if they even have that a word for that.

As far as metals go, you don't have to destroy them to render them worthless. And shitcoin markets are clearly more efficient than stock exchanges, especially with the advent of decentralized p2p exchanges. So pretty obvious what will happen there in the future.



1659. Post 50204251 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Arriemoller on March 17, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
Wow, I think I just witnessed Ibian's amygdala shrink.
This is at least the second time I've seen him go full NPC. Given how much he seems to praise raw reason it strikes me as ironic that he would reason his way into believing that he could know more about Mathematics than a Mathematician. Wouldn't it be an act of reason to at least ask questions rather than boldly proclaiming truth about topics clearly out of one's expertise? But alas, he was the first to state that "he's done", so he clearly "won" something.



1660. Post 50204591 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 17, 2019, 06:43:56 PM
You have described a clock.

Don't bother arguing about this whole "did humans invent math or discover math" nonsense.  I don't think at the highest realms of mathematics right before people go insane from studying it is there even a real consensus. A lot of this BS Btcmillionaire is talking about is simply due to the human models of math mostly being based on deterministic concepts while the universe is not.  In that manner, everything is simply an approximation and is why even if you engineer something to mathematical perfection it can still easily fail.
Ibian was trying to make an entirely different point. Namely that reality was objective, which it is not. You can invoke objectivity by specifically limiting your scope, but that objectivity is subject to arbitration and hence not objective in absolute terms.

The debate that you however bring up is merely an artifact of human language. Very similar to the point above but different nonetheless. There is no fundamental difference between discovery and creation from the perspective of a conscious observer. You can call your creative process a creation, but it's just as true that you're discovering a moment in time that you were not previously aware of. In a similar way deterministic vs non-deterministic universe is mere arbitration. These debates can only be had from a limited perspective, one of imperfect knowledge. With perfect knowledge of the system the distinction becomes arbitrary, no more than naming rights.

Also, not sure what gave you the idea that Mathematics is deterministic. There are areas of it that are, but a big portion of it is anything but.



1661. Post 50204631 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 17, 2019, 07:01:21 PM
And shitcoin markets are clearly more efficient

No.  Yours, like all shitcoin scammer's arguments, are ALWAYS based on the COMPLETELY FALSE premise that it's possible to create a decentralized digital currency in the first place.  It's NOT.  Transaction validators are always designed to centralize.  If you attempt to correct this fatal flaw by mandating a fixed number of transaction validators, all you end up with is some Dan Larimer Rube Goldberg machine like DPOS that has just as many or more problems while also being a closed entropy system.
I never said anything about decentralized currency here. You can use shitty Ripple to facilitate more efficient financial markets than current ones. And if it's more efficient people will use it. With or without trusted ledgers. The decentralization aspect of Bitcoin is a whole different story. Shitcoins are here to stay, period.



1662. Post 50210898 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 18, 2019, 07:28:24 AM
Just saw this book.  Not sure if the specifics of this guy's analysis is accurate or not, but seems like one of the few people writing books about the energy EROI phenomenon (thermodynamic collapse of oil extraction/transportation/refinement process) that will probably blow up 1st world nations:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-After-Growth-global-economy-ebook/dp/B00F3D8M2C

Some people overdo the doom scenario so I don't know if this guy does or not.  Like I said the other day, I think the US has 100 years of coal to power house electricity (plus nuclear and such on top of that), so it's not like the lights should be turning off; but there's no real substitute for powering cars and planes, and most countries are designed around tons of pointless, unsustainable commuting.  It also means Jewish moneychanger globalization is effectively dead in the water and power structures (and everything else) will be far more localized.
Why do you keep ignoring nuclear power plants? Charge batteries with those fuckers and you've got a substitute for powering cars. And nuclear fusion will without a doubt be a thing within 100 years, as well as much more efficient solar panels.



1663. Post 50212430 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 18, 2019, 11:02:53 AM
^
WoW what a comeback

Trollgoossens, you're like a naive kid that doesn't understand the nature of women.  It's very similar to a Venus fly trap.  I've even had girls the same age as me, ones younger than me, and even one of my dad's girlfriends say things like "a man that wants to get married instead of staying single is really stupid".  And a 'long term relationship' is a common law marriage in most places nowadays.  So you can even be married technically even if you don't even know it for all legal intents and purposes the second they decide they want to try and ruin your life in some manner.
You've just conceded that Micg can't be stupid, given that he repeatedly stated that he is not interested in marriage.



1664. Post 50214312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 18, 2019, 01:37:04 PM

Nice.



1665. Post 50214344 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 18, 2019, 01:47:28 PM
https://twitter.com/mBTCPizpie/status/1107614413035462657
SCOOP: The Canadian Securities Administration is proposing to ban all short selling and margin trading in Canada. Lots of neat pieces of information in the document.
https://www.osc.gov.on.ca/en/SecuritiesLaw_csa_20190314_21-402_crypto-asset-trading-platforms.htm


if I see one more instance of the use of the fatuous use of the made up term 'resiliency' for 'resilience', i'll have to accept that both now exist and are part of the fucking language. and no i'm not getting old, other people are getting idiotic. what's next, retards, silency? nonsensy?
I am not even remotely old yet, but this is accurate. People often don't even seem to know what the words they use mean either.



1666. Post 50216842 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 18, 2019, 04:01:37 PM
What a suprise.  Roll Eyes


This should be measured in Bitcoin and Ethereum, not in USD. And also be revisited during the next Bitcoin bull run.



1667. Post 50216851 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 18, 2019, 04:55:59 PM
Short term oscillations (1m-3m) tightening. Breakout soon? Up or down?

I know I've gotten myself in trouble in the past with making bad calls, but my gut has been absolutely 100% right-on so far this year. I am legit beginning to scare myself.

We're going to break upwards.

HODL. Patience.

Expecting support to build this entire week.
Did you smash those titanium plates so hard that you ripped through space-time and somehow got subconscious access to an oracle?



1668. Post 50217094 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Fucking lol'd:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/18/cboe-to-stop-listing-bitcoin-futures-as-interest-in-crypto-trading-cools.html

Because volume hasn't been climbing.



1669. Post 50217121 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 18, 2019, 05:26:34 PM
Did you smash those titanium plates so hard that you ripped through space-time and somehow got subconscious access to an oracle?

 I honestly don't know, broheim.

 It's just uncanny. I think it's the whole learning how to start to relax and start listening to the breathing of the universe.

 Dealing with an exponential degree of meta shit right now, and it's seemingly giving me very strange, and unexpected clarity, as a side-effect.

 Or maybe it's the drugs.

 It's probably the drugs.

 And beer.
Most likely the drugs. Although I've been wondering if there was a way to "tap into the universe" as well, since animals seem to be equipped to detect all kinds of weird shit. Absolutely no idea where to even begin trying to find out if there could be something to it or not though. Too much noise.


Care to elaborate on meta shit?



1670. Post 50217172 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 18, 2019, 05:27:31 PM
Banking Startup Launching Visa Card That Lets You Spend 7 Cryptos

In an announcement, 2gether said customers will be able to use the card to pay with either euros or any of the following seven cryptocurrencies: bitcoin (BTC), ether (ETH), XRP, bitcoin cash (BCH), EOS, Stellar (XLM) and litecoin (LTC). The card “instantly” converts the cryptos to fiat currency and, it said, and can be used fee-free by customers in any of the 19 eurozone nations.

https://www.coindesk.com/banking-startup-launching-visa-card-that-lets-you-spend-7-cryptos?

(Banking Startup Launching Visa Card That Lets You Spend Bitcoin and 6 shitcoins, that's better.)
I've been following this space very closely for the past 2-3 years. And this is most likely horseshit.

The only way to use the Visa network with crypto is to first convert the crypto balance into fiat and then to use the fiat balance to spend via the Visa network. Auto-conversion at point of sale is not allowed.

Every card that tried to allow direct spending of crypto via Visa or MasterCard got cancelled so far. Alas, this is most likely just a quick money grab at the expense of those who haven't seen card after card launch and fail.



1671. Post 50225211 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 18, 2019, 07:44:00 PM

I bet their market integrity / compliance team are shutting them down due to lack of volume.
One can only hope. Were CBOE's futures physically settled or just woo-woo instruments?



1672. Post 50225791 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 19, 2019, 03:40:12 AM
Banks are idiots.

They have been doing pretty good in recent years, seems like it.  Especially when they get free money without hardly any accountability.   And, some of them even charge folks to store their money.  Seems like a decent place to be, if your goal is making money.

And we are still poor.

Couldn't be for many of us who have HODLed and accumulated BTC.  In that regard, it should be a lot more difficult to lose money, if you have been HODLing and accumulating BTC for a few years, and you've had an account here for almost a year longer than yours truly.   Wink  


Where is Rosewater btw?

Good question.  He's not exactly someone who is willing or able to establish a consistent and ongoing BTC plan that involves long term HODL and accumulating when the price is dropping.. .so given our recent history, he may end up being a kind of lagging indicator, as my three scenario reversal post attempts to describe?  NOT that he would want to read my posts that involve possible reversal scenarios.. especially when there seems to be some high level jadedness damages.  Maybe we will see him back in then supra $8k arena?  Which could take a year or longer to achieve, perhaps?

1) No, they are idiots. You take them out of their squared thinking and they don't know what to do. I offer them free money and they don't take it. Idiots. Now I am forced to pay FULL for the tennis court of my new property because they say it's not part of the "home" and don't mortgage that part. Don't you see I do even have the money to pay it in full? Fucking stupid idiots.

Now I have to use almost all of my fucking life savings because they don't want to make money on it for a fucking technicality.

Oh, and not to mention I had to use my partner as co-buyer because I don't have much regular income... according to their consideration of "regular". Bleah.

2) I have always accumulated. Never sold a single Bitcoin. But my first buys in 2013 were not that much significant. And during the bear market I didn't buy much (resumed at end of 2015 until middle of 2017). If I had took some part out of it during the peak I wouldn't say so, but I know I am not the only one... so yes, we are still poor.

3) I hope to see him back soon. I really liked the guy.



As much as I loathe banks, regulators are what stops them from giving out loans without "sufficient security". Whatever that means.



1673. Post 50226005 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 19, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
What a suprise.  Roll Eyes


This should be measured in Bitcoin and Ethereum, not in USD. And also be revisited during the next Bitcoin bull run.

Point is; ICO's are scams.
I get the point. And it's only accurate for "the majority of ICOs". This will also change once the market matures.

This is the most efficient means of capital allocation that we've ever had. And if you talk to some small businesses I'm sure they'd appreciate not getting told by banks to fuck off due to their credit score regardless of how good their plan is.
ICOs are here to stay, they'll become less scammy in regulated places, much more scammy in unregulated places, and possibly keep changing their names as the space evolves. But they're fundamentally a good thing. Just so happens that anything good is abused by cunts.



1674. Post 50226039 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on March 19, 2019, 10:38:16 AM
Not risking anything, those are all model shots. Maybe the one who was actually wearing pants is an exception.
Oh that make sense then and I am a dumb F**k LOL
Not sure about these pictures in particular, but free climbing is a thing.



1675. Post 50226399 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 19, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto deserves:

- Nobel Prize in Economics
- Nobel Peace Prize
- Nobel Prize in Physics

But thankfully the last thing Satoshi needs is the validation of the establishment.

https://twitter.com/misir_mahmudov/status/1107734439285669888?s=21

What a man satoshi is ..... Smiley
I can see peace and Economics, but why Physics?



1676. Post 50242600 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Yaplatu on March 19, 2019, 06:51:11 PM

More or less what I'm waiting for before a leveraged long.



1677. Post 50242753 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: GreatArkansas on March 20, 2019, 01:21:28 AM
"We don't need Future Contracts"


Fast forward, 2021. Back to the Futures.



1678. Post 50242789 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on March 20, 2019, 04:04:16 AM
Not sure if anyone reported about this but you probable should check it out.  Cheesy

https://dnafriend.com/



1679. Post 50243146 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Jokes aside. Doesn't DNA sequencing turn DNA evidence irrelevant?

What stops someone from hacking the database and using DNA data to fake evidence in criminal cases?



1680. Post 50243667 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 20, 2019, 03:55:05 PM
Its all about the V8 sound brother Smiley (for me though)


Understood.  I have friends who feel the same way Smiley

Easily solved with a capable car stereo and suitable synthesis for engine sounds.

I mean, if that's the hill you want to die upon.

man youll need some serious power and subwoofers to reproduce the sound im used too. like, being able to set car alarms off when driving by.
...why would you want this?

Because it's fun and gives you goosebumps? That's why I did it once upon a time.
Sound and fury signifying nothing? Really?

 I can fully understand the need.  I have 400+ watts, 7 speakers, a volume knob that goes to 30 and it's not sufficient to drown out my god-awful voice when I'm in the mood to sing Wink


It's your volume knob. It doesn't go all the way up to 11.



1681. Post 50243701 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 20, 2019, 04:08:25 PM
Jokes aside. Doesn't DNA sequencing turn DNA evidence irrelevant?

Quite the opposite.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/02/14/napkin-dna-break-cold-case/



edit:

GO GO GO
I'm aware of that case. But it doesn't show that you can't forge DNA evidence when there's an entire database filled with data.



1682. Post 50244805 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 20, 2019, 05:23:43 PM


didn't get that one actually....

billy is doing good not?

he's buying BTC.... left upper ?

The blue coin with a BTC is a shitcoin.

Then F*** Billy what are you doing

Maybe he likes to buy his bitcoins with Monero, get back a bit of privacy.     Kiss  xxx
I don't know what you're talking about. Roll Eyes



1683. Post 50246337 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 20, 2019, 07:38:08 PM

That's racisst.



1684. Post 50246639 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 20, 2019, 07:51:10 PM
If you sell your coins before you make at least 10x, you are doing it wrong.

It is not worth the risk only to make %30-50.

Even %100 is no good. (Though it is a safe bet)

Tell them "%1000 or gtfo!"
Yes, it is perfect. And that's why I won't sell my holding BTC.

but I would be worried about any plan that only involves holding until $20k, but that might just be me and my current way of thinking about the whole bitcoin situation.
As I am not a trader I will not buy and sell. I will buy and hold. I will try to buy as much as possible (which I can take a risk)

I understand that mindset, especially when you consider yourself to be in a BTC accumulation phase, which I understand could last for a very long time, especially, if you feel that you have not acquired a lot of BTC in order to achieve your personal goals/targets.

So, based on what you are saying, you bought some BTC in the $17k price arena, and is it fair for me to assume that you have bought some more BTC below $17k (like for example at some price points between $3122 and $17k)?

If you bought at $17k, and you have not bought anymore BTC because you are waiting for the BTC price to go lower, then that would be a very interesting situation that I have heard about in theory, but I have never seen any case in which someone has asserted that something like that is their actual situation - noting that we are in about a 80% BTC price correction arena, currently.

I'm actually considering taking up a job for some 6-12 months now that I've automated a good portion of my trading. Could throw off several dozen extra coins if we stay in this range...



1685. Post 50246701 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: mrdeposit on March 20, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
Venesuela is pure example of how not to control economy. Cashless economic model is better than any sort of fake economy.
It's funny how this shit still happens even though we've seen it several times in the past.



1686. Post 50247349 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.37h):

Quote from: Retina on March 20, 2019, 08:43:35 PM
Many people said that One day BTC is Pump 1BTC=50k USD. But they could not mention any appropriate reason,
What are you talking about? There are plenty of very plausible scenarios that could propel BTC to 6 and 7 digits.



1687. Post 50254868 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 21, 2019, 02:33:19 AM
In case you didn't know how serious of a problem it is allowing women to vote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b3gcdm/i_dont_think_i_have_ever_seen_a_man_share_crap/
This is hilarious. And also proves that democracy is at least as retarded as the majority vote. Not that democracy exists anywhere in the world right now.



1688. Post 50254904 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.



1689. Post 50254995 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: mdayonliner on March 21, 2019, 12:47:48 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?
I think it depends on the contract you and the landlord have.

I assume the Landlord is an old retired fat lady?  Tongue
Old fat man who works for the government as one of those "herp derp I read forms while eating cake, drinking coffee and talking shit at the tax payers' expense" type of people. Nice and friendly man, but I don't want any of that.

The contract doesn't specifically mention anything about arbitrary renovations that aren't necessary (such as pipe burst).



1690. Post 50255009 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Wilhelm on March 21, 2019, 12:51:01 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.

Ever tried having a conversation with him?
Yes. He knows very well that I'm busy and have no interest or time for any visits for any non-serious reasons.



1691. Post 50255041 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 21, 2019, 12:54:58 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.
As an old and bored landlord I can tell you the more you resist, the more he is likely to want to 'help' you. If you are as weird irl as you are on here he must be incredibly intrigued. He probably is allowed a regular inspection, but obviously hide your valuables and sex slaves when he comes. Let him win, give him some foul herbal tea, and tease him about nosiness and your connections to the local mafia/police.
That sounds fun but not very plausible haha

And I've learned over the years to at least act normal with people I don't want to deal with.



1692. Post 50255068 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 21, 2019, 12:59:09 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.

lock him up @your basement or something

that something happening continuously ....... (right your not some F***ed up dude the world is full of today)
I honestly think that he's just bored and craves human interaction and can't even begin to process the idea that he could be annoying to others. If I outright tell him that he's fucking annoying I'm suddenly the asshole though.

The location of this place is perfect, lots of green, quiet. Huge mall within walking range. But god damn it, if he doesn't stop soon I'll have to move.



1693. Post 50255109 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: mdayonliner on March 21, 2019, 01:03:24 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.

lock him up @your basement or something

that something happening continuously ....... (right your not some F***ed up dude the world is full of today)
I honestly think that he's just bored and craves human interaction and can't even begin to process the idea that he could be annoying to others. If I outright tell him that he's fucking annoying I'm suddenly the asshole though.

The location of this place is perfect, lots of green, quiet. Huge mall within walking range. But god damn it, if he doesn't stop soon I'll have to move.
Ask him to join here and advise him to be a regular in Meta and Reputation LOL
That would scare him off once and for all. Potentially worth ruining my OpSec for too. HMMMMMMMMMMM


Oh damn, welcome to the WO new regular-to-be?



1694. Post 50255158 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 21, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
Now I wanna see in his flat

it might not be hygienic.
Lmao, if maids didn't cost peanuts then probably. Only my desk though and only when working on some shit that I need pen and paper for.


Quote from: mdayonliner on March 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
That would scare him off once and for all. Potentially worth ruining my OpSec for too. HMMMMMMMMMMM
How about sending him to Roger Ver for some consultancy? Ver scammer will sell him some bCash by saying that that's Bitcoin.
I doubt he could mentally process an interaction that isn't sitcom style "nice and proper".



1695. Post 50255233 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 21, 2019, 01:07:58 PM
Does anybody know if I am legally required to permit my landlord entry for strictly unnecessary renovations?

He keeps coming up with new shit every other month and I don't want to see him or anyone at my house for no reason other than him being old and bored.

 
Send him to my place!  I need a few upgrades/repairs and have neither the time nor the inclination... anyway there are hats to be made.


Maybe we've got a business opportunity here. Rent out all his properties, wait until he renovates them, then sub-lease them for a higher price!



Quote from: El duderino_ on March 21, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
I honestly think that he's just bored and craves human interaction and can't even begin to process the idea that he could be annoying to others. If I outright tell him that he's fucking annoying I'm suddenly the asshole though.

The location of this place is perfect, lots of green, quiet. Huge mall within walking range. But god damn it, if he doesn't stop soon I'll have to move.

NO! wait for MOON, then throw him a BTC and own that perfect place in the green Smiley
When we hit moon I'm designing my own property and mansion with the salmon/shrimp predator/prey pond and other weird nonsense nobody needs. Tongue Maybe a little village for family and friends.


Quote from: serveria.com on March 21, 2019, 01:12:22 PM
Ask him to join here and advise him to be a regular in Meta and Reputation LOL

What if he's already here? The description sounds a lot like JJG  Grin
He couldn't be any further from JJG. JJG is confrontational. This guy is just so nice that he can't imagine that somebody wouldn't want to talk to him. This place has a lot of weirdly 'proper' old folks.



1696. Post 50255355 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: machasm on March 21, 2019, 01:21:51 PM
~

NO! wait for MOON, then throw him a BTC and own that perfect place in the green Smiley
I doubt old people will ever understand Bitcoin.

I'm 55 does that qualify as old?
Do you understand Bitcoin?



1697. Post 50256442 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

The party is over. Bitcoin is ded.



1698. Post 50256745 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Retina on March 21, 2019, 02:43:11 PM
Looking like we might be dipping below $4,000 again soon. We didn’t break high enough past it, I think a couple of our bear whales are going to see this as an opportunity to force us below $4,000.....AGAIN !!!!!
yes I agree with you I am not sure but I think to Dump and try to hit $3800, 1% BTC dump crushed some alts.. Panic sellers are destroying the game.
You are about to become one yourself.



1699. Post 50256768 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 21, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Well, it’s official.

Getting drunk today when I get back home from running errands.

Just... fuck.

So sad about this utter support collapse.
So far it bounced off of some obvious MAs on the Binance charts.

Is it possible, with sufficiently deep bags, to go short on Bitfinex or whatever people use and then dump a load of BTC on some random exchange in a profitable manner? These dumps seem pretty weird and ineffective otherwise.



1700. Post 50259758 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 21, 2019, 06:24:12 PM
I like how the Google engineers made JayJuanGee spell "ratt" incorrectly in every post to make him seem more human.
What kind of data set would they have trained him on? His sentences seem far too convoluted to have any significant amounts of data to train off of. Most people would type more like this. At best.



1701. Post 50259784 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 21, 2019, 06:45:57 PM
What kind of moron uses a chalkboard instead of a whiteboard in the year 2019.  Better yet, why do you need an interpreter who is doing a half ass and inefficient job just reading shit out of a book and writing it on a board when you can just read the book yourself?
I honestly prefer chalkboard, if the chalk is good. At least when I'm the one doing the writing. Agree with the rest.



1702. Post 50259803 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on March 21, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
Everyone is talking about the 140k BTC potential sell-side pressure from the Mt Gox coin redistribution to creditors Absolutely no-one is talking about the $627million being distributed to creditors who may then decide to *buy more* Bitcoin


https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1108769707463770112
I voted dump btw. Because dump that BCash.



1703. Post 50259819 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Paashaas on March 21, 2019, 07:28:13 PM

You can say about Twatter what you want, but Jack seems like a decent dude. Willing to be convinced otherwise if there are any interesting talks by/with him that one could refer me to.



1704. Post 50259857 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 21, 2019, 07:50:31 PM
What kind of moron uses a chalkboard instead of a whiteboard in the year 2019.  Better yet, why do you need an interpreter who is doing a half ass and inefficient job just reading shit out of a book and writing it on a board when you can just read the book yourself?
I honestly prefer chalkboard, if the chalk is good. At least when I'm the one doing the writing. Agree with the rest.
It's much easier and more efficient to learn a language from a person than from a book.
I couldn't tell you because I've learned all of my non-native languages from just reading and writing on the webs. But I generally prefer studying on my own because my questions annoy every teacher.



1705. Post 50261514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: realr0ach on March 21, 2019, 09:33:28 PM
I honestly prefer chalkboard, if the chalk is good.

You cannot be a rational or logical person and prefer chalk over whiteboard.  There's an inherent dirtiness to chalk.  The board represents forward evolution in the form of leveraging the mind in order to create tools that allow a mastery over the environment.  The chalk is the antithesis of said phenomenon.  It embodies the spirit of a wild plains negro rolling around in the dirt.  The environment is defeating you instead.
Have you actually used a whiteboard and chalkboard for any significant periods of time? Whiteboards are fucking annoying. Pens always run out. You always get that shitty marker on your hands that is hard to wash off. It feels unpleasant to write on it. You can't as easily correct minor mistakes. Markers always leave residue.

Chalkboards on the other hand feel satisfying to write on. You can quickly erase minor mistake and then just wash your fucking hands with no residue. And when you're cleaning the board all it takes is two swipes with a window wiper to clear and dry the board without residue.

There's just no argument here, and anyone I know who actually has to write anything during lectures agrees. The only ones disagreeing are degenerate social "scientists" who read pleb tier power point presentations.

Are you a degenerate social scientist? Do you advocate for full blown socialism?



1706. Post 50261543 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: machasm on March 21, 2019, 09:22:38 PM
~

NO! wait for MOON, then throw him a BTC and own that perfect place in the green Smiley
I doubt old people will ever understand Bitcoin.

I'm 55 does that qualify as old?
Do you understand Bitcoin?

Well I run an LN node and do one shitcoin mining to raise my BTC stash slowly.
I know how to HODL.
Does that count as knowing enough?
Yes.

Do you play games or do any other stuff that ageists wouldn't expect?



1707. Post 50261558 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Globb0 on March 21, 2019, 10:54:05 PM
I honestly prefer chalkboard, if the chalk is good.

You cannot be a rational or logical person and prefer chalk over whiteboard.  There's an inherent dirtiness to chalk.  The board represents forward evolution in the form of leveraging the mind in order to create tools that allow a mastery over the environment.  The chalk is the antithesis of said phenomenon.  It embodies the spirit of a wild plains negro rolling around in the dirt.  The environment is defeating you instead.

bah you can argue any old shit any time

A whiteboard marker is the most frustrating thing on earth.


With the advent of a great idea it withers and dies and leaves somewhat a pathetic representation of what was desired, "get a marker get a marker", they cried.

But only permanent markers preside, that's no good to me, they cried.

Lets wind up this meeting...…



Q.E.D. ☐



1708. Post 50261624 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/21/german-journalist-who-was-held-captive-and-gave-birth-in-syria-speaks-of-her-ordeal


I can't process how retarded some people are. Why would you go to a war zone while pregnant? Is this some innate natural selection that can't be acted against? Or just off-the-charts naivety?

Is this shit even real?



1709. Post 50267575 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Syke on March 21, 2019, 11:35:57 PM
Chalkboards on the other hand feel satisfying to write on. You can quickly erase minor mistake and then just wash your fucking hands with no residue. And when you're cleaning the board all it takes is two swipes with a window wiper to clear and dry the board without residue.

Yeah, but don't you hate it when that nice long piece of chalk breaks in half and you're left with two too-short pieces?
I break chalk in half on purpose because half pieces are more comfortable to use in the first place. Plus they don't break.



1710. Post 50267633 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 22, 2019, 01:46:24 AM
4 PM, but these things are rated at 131db

 Last summer, I was puttering away in my studio one evening, while Rick was away at work still, and neighbor across the alley's daughter had all her noisy friends over hooting, hollering, and making all sorts of noise.

 9pm-ish.

 Really got on my nerves after about 10 minutes, as their noisiness and shenanigans only increased.

 Decided I had enough.

 Cranked up the mix on all the channels and blared Blac Kolor "Awakening (feat. Jean-Luc De Meyer)" in it's entirety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXnyw_op7gw

 They got the message by the time the song ended.
The wonders of human communication.



1711. Post 50267751 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 22, 2019, 04:44:40 AM

for real?

I'm afraid I have become very jaded...part of me is looking for the long con.
It's a gambling outlet. Designed to be profitable the more people play. This is just a bad situation turned into 100+ BTC worth of marketing.



1712. Post 50267992 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 22, 2019, 08:02:02 AM
Speaking of old, the retirement age in my country is being pushed back. We'll have 70+ old people working till their grave pretty soon, lots of people will never get their pension. Anyone have strong feelings on this?
Appears to be a kind of a you reap what you sow kind of thing to me. At least in Europe.

Most people who will have trouble with pensions don't have much of an excuse as to why they didn't put some 10-50 bucks a month into a retirement fund.

It's also pretty self-evident that government pension is a scam, at least around here. Whatever you pay in in fiat, you get back a fraction of. Even if you don't die ahead of schedule. And then there's inflation on top of that.

Curiously, if you don't pay on schedule you get penalized as well and have to pay fines.
Not sure how that's going to help the individuals that screamed for "government funded" pensions. But the fact that the only way to have a decent retirement is preparing it for yourself is pretty transparent if you try to look.

Yet people vote precisely that reality in themselves.



1713. Post 50268281 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 22, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
I’m self employed, my partner & I run one successful business (online ladies fashion store) & we’ve just started another one.

I’m in my early 30’s, I don’t have a private pension. I’ve been thinking for a while that I need to start one, my girl does too. The thing is though, like the post above me states - Some pension plans are a scam. What if I die before I even get back what I pay in over the next 30-35 years?

This is where bitcoin comes into play....I have plenty of bitcoin & to be honest even if I just keep 5 until I’m 65 the price then will probably be obscenely high that it’ll be so much better thsn a shitty pension any way.


You can create your own pension fund by just accumulating fiat, various stocks, Bitcoin and perhaps some metals or whatever. Doesn't take obscene amounts to at least be safe in retirement.

The government pension fund here is legally mandatory if you're not self-employed or only making money through capital gains, which is why I just threw the $50 per month number out there. That's enough to at least not be scrambling for bread crumbs later on if you don't start very late. And with a couple hundred a month in stocks you'll live far above average if you don't buy the BitConnect IPO 100% of the time.

Retirement funds aren't fun or exciting, but unless you're very sure that you will end up with "fuckyoumoney" anyways you best get started early. And that's most people given the wealth distribution data. If people started thinking about this earlier in life I'd be surprised if the wealth gap didn't start shrinking though, good thing education prepares them adequately for questions that matter. But that's off the point.



1714. Post 50268318 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Dabs on March 22, 2019, 12:29:02 PM
I used to think I'd live to be around 120 years old. But now, I'm thinking, if I even get to 90 or even 85, that I would have lived a good life anyway. (Or even earlier, but not too early.)

Just need to get that first elusive million, then live on interest.

There are the traditional methods of self-pensioning (without relying on government) and the alternatives are crypto, but not yet mature or stable.

And then, of course, you really need to get term life insurance. Term life is the most basic, most pure, insurance. That is why it is also the cheapest. Something like $30 per month to cover $500k for a 10 year term. You may or may not need longer than that.
Have you read the conversations about rejuvenation and halting aging we've had on the WO?


Also, what's a term insurance and how can it cover $500k over 10 years with only $30 per month? Takes 1389 years without compounding to get to $500k at that rate, so I'm kinda confused.



1715. Post 50269980 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: gentlemand on March 22, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
They're a pain to fuck with, trying to fuck with Bcash and bcashsv and get both off the Trezor is a pain in the ass.

For most of them I extracted the private key from the seed and went elsewhere. If you wait for some of these wallets to come up with a splitting tool you might be there forever. I was desperate for my Bitcoin God NOW.
I want to say "There is no Bitcoin God. He ded." but I'm afraid of evoking his wrath.



1716. Post 50271615 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: kingcolex on March 22, 2019, 04:09:34 PM
How do I long cakes on the NYSE?
Not sure, but you should long cake bakers and short cakes. The increase in demand for cakes implies a mid to long-term increase in supply which implies an exponential down trend for the value of cakes. The cake is a bull trap.



1717. Post 50287861 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 23, 2019, 11:41:25 PM
I wouldn't bother extrapolating your personal experience to the general population


I edited to add wikpedia link.  You can peruse the sources yourself at your leisure.  

Relevantly the US divorce rate is in decline:  http://time.com/5405757/millennials-us-divorce-rate-decline/
The probability of a marriage lasting for 10 years or longer is something different than the rate of divorce. Even if the former probability excludes cases of deaths ending marriages early. Feel like the 3% number is still too low, even though I'd expect most failed marriages to divorce earlier on rather than later.



1718. Post 50287914 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
I wouldn't bother extrapolating your personal experience to the general population


I edited to add wikpedia link.  You can peruse the sources yourself at your leisure.  

Relevantly the US divorce rate is in decline:  http://time.com/5405757/millennials-us-divorce-rate-decline/
The probability of a marriage lasting for 10 years or longer is something different than the rate of divorce. Even if the former probability excludes cases of deaths ending marriages early. Feel like the 3% number is still too low, even though I'd expect most failed marriages to divorce earlier on rather than later.

Well, strictly speaking 100% of all marriages eventually end
Yeah, but he claimed that 3% of marriages end within 10 years. Which I doubt and can't be bothered looking up. But still, not divorce rates.



1719. Post 50296615 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 24, 2019, 11:38:34 AM
I was a bit disappointed they did not point their guns at Bitmex.

How they did not? They checked all exchanges with more then $1 m of daily volume on CMC. That was close to 100 exchanges. They posted top10 with most volume. And 10th was polo with $1.4m  So best chance for Bitmex is to be 11th with less that that.  That information is not satisfactory for you?

Bitmex does not trade Bitcoin.  It trades Bitcoin futures, most notably a futures perpetual with physical delivery. And the claimed volume of Bitmex is massive (which makes me think it is fake because slippage is very bad). 

The only two futures exchanges that they mentioned were CME and CBOE.  And XBTprovider which I have never heard of but appears to be real.  Odd.  




Would you be so kind as to enlighten me on slippage? In what way would it screw with trading?

Would it throw you out of a trade when there are insufficient orders in the other direction remaining as opposed to the hard value at which your collateral turns to zero?



1720. Post 50299791 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 24, 2019, 06:28:54 PM
Would you be so kind as to enlighten me on slippage? In what way would it screw with trading?

I would assume the implication was that: if real volume be truly that large, then slippage should be much less than that experienced.
I understand the correlation between volume and slippage, but I'm not sure how exactly those contracts work as I've never used or read into them.



1721. Post 50302097 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

I find the articles regarding capital leaving the UK over Brexit quite entertaining.

After all, the UK would be able to make up its own policies to specifically draw that and even further capital in once the EU can no longer meddle.


Not pretending that I know shit about Brexit or its implications. But the arguments I've seen so far for it being bad were pretty weak (mostly focusing on short-term implications while completely ignoring the long-term).



1722. Post 50324255 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

So apparently the EU is passing article 13, without any revision. And thus exposes itself as a dictatorship.



1723. Post 50327429 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Not sure if I'm starting to tinfoil here, but things are starting to make much more sense now.

Karl Carstens was a member of the German SA during the Nazi era. After the war he was the leader of the CDU/CSU. He was also one of the pillars of the European Union and publicly praised one of the founding fathers, Walter Hallenstein, publicly. Hallenstein was also part of some Nazi groups, although according to Wiki he "distanced himself from them", not very successfully considering his connection to a SA member.

Nowadays the CDU/CSU supports the "Rundfunkbeitrag", which steals in a range of 8 Billion Euros annually from German citizens under the guise of independent reporting. Most of the money goes to actors (for TV series) and executives of the ARD. The Rundfunkbeitrag was created by none other than Adolf Hitler, and to this day the ARD appears to be only marginally more objective than it was during Nazi times.

Today the EU passed Article 13, despite a massive public backlash and outcry. And thus brings us right to the edge of a censorship apparatus comparable to Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. About the Millions of signatures and hundreds of thousands of protesters the CDU only has to say: Paid tech company shills.



I wish the UK the best of luck in leaving this dictatorship that guises itself under the banner of democracy. Any short term damages seem to far outweigh a dictatorship on European scale.



tl;dr EU is at least partially a Nazi-creation and increasingly behaves like a dictatorship.


Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Carstens
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/31/obituaries/walter-hallstein-a-founder-of-europe-s-common-market.html
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/cdu-tweet-bezahlte-demonstranten-gegen-urheberrechtsreform-100.html



1724. Post 50327674 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: yefi on March 26, 2019, 06:59:23 PM
Quote
I wish the UK the best of luck in leaving this dictatorship that guises itself under the banner of democracy. Any short term damages seem to far outweigh a dictatorship on European scale.

It would be nice to imagine becoming a bastion of freedom, but I'm afraid the 19th century flame of liberty has long since died out in this nation.
I wonder how much of that is due to disinformation campaigns as opposed to the true beliefs of the people.



1725. Post 50329453 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 26, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
@EmreKelly

There it is: @VP Pence says NASA has been directed to return to the moon within the next five years. Any means necessary.

I knew NASA were a bunch of fucking aliens. #BuildTheWallAroundEarth



1726. Post 50338167 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: Biodom on March 27, 2019, 01:05:34 AM
@JJG but there is always some exceptional case in sports where the vegan player stays on top. I am aware of only one such player, Indian Cricketer Virat Kohli

I am far from convinced about the health benefits of veganism.. including the necessity to somehow get all essential fats in a vegan diet through plants or some bullshit, when those essential fats are frequently already present and largely already bio-available (without having to take a bunch of bullshit supplements) in various kinds of meats

google "avocado fats" : 21-29g fat in a ~150g vegetable. That's a lot and those are 'good fats' of a variety that increases HDL.

That said, I have nothing against meat. Overall, for older people it is perhaps beneficial to slowly transition to less red meat.

Animal protein has a different ratio of the four amino acids than plant based protein. If you only consume plant protein you're going to end up with a surplus of some and a shortage of another.

And that's just one of the many deficiencies caused by a vegetarian diet (of course this is not true if you consume things like milk, eggs and/or other animal based foods or supplements). Humans are omnivores. Don't be ashamed of your species, that's silly.

Twenty amino acids, four is a number of nucleotides (A,C,G,T)  Wink.
That said, I am an omnivore, albeit starting to enjoy veggies (and fish) a bit more.



Veggies can be fucking amazing when prepared properly. I actually found myself to eat a shit ton of cabbage during all you can eat hot pots in Japan. Tastes great, doesn't fill you up, and refreshes the palette after mountains of meat in preparation for the next round. When they're soaked in the broth they're just fantastic. Also, that citrus flavoured soy sauce works really well.



1727. Post 50338214 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: JSRAW on March 27, 2019, 01:29:30 AM
This was my dinner for 20 years or so pretty much every night.



It's still my favorite food. I'll take a steak over any other food.
I don't are for cake and candy as well as most sweets.
Pink blood soaked sour cream potatoes and chives is just the icing ontop. Cheesy

A cow is a holy animal for me but it looks delicious too Cheesy
If the meat was made in a lab and no cow was harmed, would you be "allowed" to eat it?



1728. Post 50352341 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 28, 2019, 08:12:55 AM
If you quit crypto during the bear market, it may become the biggest financial regret you will ever have. Don't do it.

Bear markets are where future OGs are born.

https://twitter.com/btc_macro/status/1111011865188941824?s=21
It's like that marshmallow experiment. Kids that wait for the second marshmallow go off and prosper, the ones that ate theirs immediately... not so much.



1729. Post 50352398 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.38h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 28, 2019, 08:50:52 AM
Is it wrong to be a fan of both Bob and JJG?

I feel like I should be choosing sides here...

LOL j/k. It's all entertainment and part of the WO cycle.


I thought most of us liked both? Although JJG is sometimes too wordy even for me, and I like words and convolutions.



1730. Post 50370514 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: vapourminer on March 29, 2019, 01:42:12 PM
That is most definitely not what was meant in the poll.

my bad then.

still curious as to reasonings for dumping vs hodling though.
I picked dump for the BCash. Couldn't differentiate so went with that.



1731. Post 50371413 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 29, 2019, 09:06:45 PM
https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1111710002258038785
Craig has started filing lawsuit against those falsely denying he is Satoshi....they can all have a day in court to try to prove their fake case but the judge will rule that Craig invented Bitcoin because he did and he can prove it.

https://twitter.com/MrHodl/status/1111731343321452544
I'm getting report that people are getting legal notices through Twitter DMs.


Why can't it be a lawdress? This is so fucking bigoted and sexist.



1732. Post 50372962 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 29, 2019, 11:41:15 PM
This is very interesting if true: https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/29/bitcoin-the-unlikely-product-of-a-canadian-oil-mining-operation/
Implications for the Saudis?



1733. Post 50412779 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

As a verified good citizen I hereby claim moral authority over this thread. Anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler.



1734. Post 50412925 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 01, 2019, 05:53:13 PM
As a verified good citizen I hereby claim moral authority over this thread. Anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler.
Well yeah you have 6 more hours left by the way 😉
How dare you!



1735. Post 50413279 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 01, 2019, 06:04:17 PM
As a verified good citizen I hereby claim moral authority over this thread. Anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler.
Well yeah you have 6 more hours left by the way 😉
How dare you!
I am a geek 😉
Fine, you are pardoned. But only if you can build me a few nukes of peace within the next 5 hours 40 minutes.



1736. Post 50413676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 01, 2019, 06:43:17 PM
Honestly I'm surprised we haven't had a small dip down, recently.
Don't worry, only a few more hours until April 1st is over.



1737. Post 50415238 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 01, 2019, 08:51:03 PM
Just got rid of that cheesy "Verified special snowflake"...

Now I'm a cool "Verified bull"! Cool

[Adding bones261 to sMerit Queue]

Edit: Something tells me that tomorrow those "Verified..." titles will all be gone...

Yeah I think they’ll all be gone tomorrow Snowy Wink

If mine would stay..... Roll Eyes

Wouldn’t be the best Cheesy

Btw what about those last minutes yesterday??
Verified troll? I knew all those games were fake! Angry



1738. Post 50418343 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Green dildo army.



1739. Post 50418369 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

And I was just about to go to sleep.



1740. Post 50418481 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Oh my, we're not done yet.



1741. Post 50418501 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

~260k wall at $4500 on Binance just got evaporated.



1742. Post 50431813 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 02, 2019, 04:32:52 PM
Fucking LTC up $10 since I dumped for taxes.

HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY, IRS ! It's all going to you anyway.

Taxation is theft.
This happens every time I sell some coins. Coincidence?



1743. Post 50431915 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 02, 2019, 08:09:27 PM


I know which of those two assets I’d rather have
Same. Pretty obvious.

I'd take the gold bar so I could melt it, short it, and then buy some Bitcoin.



1744. Post 50432116 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 02, 2019, 10:26:37 PM
When page parity?

Dunno.

I'm shooting for post count parity some time in 2024.

Whoaza, jbreher... that is a pretty damned conservative timeline, but hey I don't have any problem(s) with either conservative thinking or preparing for conservative outcomes.

I’m shooting for views parity in 2033.
His post parity target is actually quite sensible. View parity in 2033 seems like a stretch though, we're at 21m views right now, by 2033 we'll probably have twice as many or more.

But who knows how much the Economy will grow with AI & Blockchain. The industrial revolution apparently brought about a 50x increase to world GPD after all, and all of the seven digit predictions I've seen so far were based around today's numbers.



1745. Post 50433010 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.39h):

There's something oddly satisfying about watching >1m sell orders just flash out of existence.



1746. Post 50446611 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: Phil_S on April 03, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax#Current_examples

Quote
Argentina
Canada
France
Spain
Netherlands
Norway
Switzerland
Italy
Do note that the Netherlands don't have a capital gains tax. And their wealth tax caps at I believe 1.6 or 1.8%.



1747. Post 50446760 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: Ludwig Von on April 03, 2019, 05:09:14 PM
It feels like waking up from a long wintersleep... . (In my case all to true). Bit strange it went again by sudden bumps and not organic growth... .  Wink Wink Wink
There is nothing more organic than a good dose of FOMO.



1748. Post 50448367 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

It's ded.



1749. Post 50448520 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 03, 2019, 10:53:26 PM
When 7777 a BTC?
7.7.



1750. Post 50461923 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 04, 2019, 06:34:52 PM
[ edited out]

Jbreher should be joining his BCHABC - BTC-SV friends at r/btc. He can shit on Segwit/LN and Core dev. 24/7.

He will be loved over there  but here he's  just a moron.

Likely, jbreher "feels" as if he is performing a greater service these here parts.  Doing "god's work," so to speak.*


* NO jbreher.  I don't mind at all putting words into your mouth(or brain)...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  The only kind of contributory service that you seem to be providing around here is as a common grounds "punching bag."  Thanks for that.  Roll Eyes NOT
The only "feels" I see are coming from his opposition. Every post I've skimmed that was directed against him today was essentially completely worthless. All personal attacks and ideological horseshit over rigorous arguments.



1751. Post 50475523 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 05, 2019, 10:55:53 AM


https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1114114047379681280
Did they fix their crypto taxes yet?



1752. Post 50475643 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 05, 2019, 04:34:55 PM
Well, Rick is off jet-setting around the globe, somewhere, to attend some fancy event, and I'm left home alone this weekend.

Thinking of consuming 7mg of dried mushrooms and talking to Jah and The Flying Spaghetti Monster tonight.

What could possibly go wrong ?

- Do exercise
- Read a good book
- Plan a trip
- Order dinner at home
- Then you go back to WO and you tell us. Wink


Roll Eyes



1753. Post 50478916 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 06, 2019, 12:22:43 AM
Jbear

The market has spoken.  

BSV is a classic shitcoin descending towards zero which will never regain its previous heights.  Some other shiny new shitcoin will come along and replace it as the "next Bitcoin". It has had its run.
Appeal to authority and generally irrelevant.

What the market has decided upon doesn't change the facts.



1754. Post 50479326 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 06, 2019, 02:04:46 AM
Jbear

The market has spoken.  

BSV is a classic shitcoin descending towards zero which will never regain its previous heights.  Some other shiny new shitcoin will come along and replace it as the "next Bitcoin". It has had its run.
Appeal to authority and generally irrelevant.

What the market has decided upon doesn't change the facts.

I don't think we disagree.  The market has decided (fact) that BSV has 1.7% the value of Bitcoin. 
The way you worded your post makes it seems as if you were implying that the market not buying a coin makes it technologically inferior. By that reasoning chart music would be the greatest musical accomplishment in all of human history and Amazon would be one of the greatest failures in the world of business.



1755. Post 50490412 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 06, 2019, 04:15:05 PM
... insults is all he's got.

I disagree with him on many (most) points but this...just ain't so.
Seconded. And I disagree with jojo on many points and even got blocked by him.



1756. Post 50492830 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 07, 2019, 03:31:49 AM
... insults is all he's got.

I disagree with him on many (most) points but this...just ain't so.

For sure he's a smart guy and makes some good points.

"Smart" isn't in short supply. I grew up in a smart city, was surrounded by smart people, went to a smart university, got a smart degree. I'm just not impressed with "smart." Some people can be extremely intelligent by some measures and especially dumb in others. So what is "smart"?

In my experience, honesty and integrity are far more scarce and far more valuable attributes. I've watched "smart" people destroy the world around them, and themselves, during the course of my lifetime. I'm just not impressed by "smart."

"A hard cap on on-chain txs is a hard cap on on-chain txs, any way you try to spin it." <- then it doesn't matter what size you raise the blocks? how could you advocate larger/bigger blocks when you do not believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion.

WTF are you babbling about? I advocate larger blocks, as I do believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion. Quite a splendid one, in fact.

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Lets keep raising it to the point where the blockchain/database/ledger is so massive, no one is going to want to run a full node.

There will always be those who with to run a full node, if only for the ability to trustlessly process incoming payments.

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The other misconception he is pushing is, "higher fees". As much as we all like to pay nothing for something, the true reality is, we need fees to keep bitcoin secure!

The miners don't need your centrally-planned price controls.


You actually remind me of r0ach, when you can not defend your position or answer anything, you just go on a tangent and throw out statements which make no sense..

You still haven't mentioned what size blocks you think Bitcoin needs... reminds me of the little do'er carpet commercial, "tell them the price son!, the price!"

"Tell me the blocksize son! the blocksize!"


You are the one going off on tangents and ignoring the points that he's making.

And no, lowering the block size would almost certainly kill it right now because people would be incapable of using it and hence likely move elsewhere.

Disagreeing with larger blocks is one thing, although you have failed to produce any sensible argument against it. But advocating for lowering the block size just indicates that you're just running your mouth.

Are you perhaps trying to farm merits so you can join some signature campaign?



1757. Post 50506684 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: ivomm on April 07, 2019, 04:45:26 PM
You know, I often wonder why 95% of exchange trades are like 0.05 or 0.001BTC. The answer is - there are thousands of n00bs (probably can't even calculate percentages and addicted to drugs) who believe that by trading such pathetic amounts, they will become millionaires. I got flash news for you - Not gonna happen! If you are lucky, you may get 10% in a year, so congrats with your 0.0001BTC profit. Go buy an island with that. Grin Grin Grin

nah

it's bots
Even if they are bots, the sums of the simultaneous trades is way below 0.1BTC, which means their owners are really poor. The volume is made by a 5% of trades which are above 1BTC.
Wrong conclusion. I regularly test new strategies with small amounts. And there are other reasons as to why you might want to do a lot of small trades over fewer larger trades.

Also, 0.05 BTC is enough to retire within ~5 years if BTC goes to 100-300k and you trade shitcoins with a decent entry and exit strategy.



1758. Post 50521267 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 08, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
Never gonna fucking happen.
Just a matter of time.



1759. Post 50521916 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 08, 2019, 05:15:39 PM

Blah blah blah larger block blah blah


You have bcash and bsv with larger blocks, go there you have options. What part of we don't want larger blocks is so hard to comprehend

Yeah, I get it. But some here seem utterly oblivious to the consequences thereof.

And you feel that you grasp full consequences of bcash and bsv and their unlimited blocks ...?

For the most part, yes. I certainly feel I have a greater than average grasp of such consequences -- upon both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Core -- than does the average Bitcoiner -- in any of the Bitcoin camps. For evidence of such, I need only look at the near-universally asinine replies issued as 'rebuttals' to the points I make.
I haven't seen a single decent response to jbreher so far, so there's some merit to this claim.

Also, the market cap argument some people brought up doesn't follow. Popularity does not imply superiority by technical standards.



1760. Post 50526412 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 09, 2019, 02:37:41 AM
Off topic, but...

Word around the campfire has it that Rosewater appears to be suffering from protracted post acute benzodiazepine withdrawal. It's all quite heady and complicated. Lots of ins. Lots of outs. Akathisia, some hallucinations. GABA receptor down-regulation. This on top of tardive dysphoria and that wheat thing, to the best of my knowledge. At any rate, doctors orders. The line between iatrogenic physical dependence and full blown pill sick smack-houndery is a bit unclear. Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.


Now where's my hat?
Good question. No welcome back from me until you wear your hat. You may or may not have been missed.



1761. Post 50526502 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: infofront on April 09, 2019, 03:30:31 AM

Blah blah blah larger block blah blah


You have bcash and bsv with larger blocks, go there you have options. What part of we don't want larger blocks is so hard to comprehend

Yeah, I get it. But some here seem utterly oblivious to the consequences thereof.

And you feel that you grasp full consequences of bcash and bsv and their unlimited blocks ...?

For the most part, yes. I certainly feel I have a greater than average grasp of such consequences -- upon both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Core -- than does the average Bitcoiner -- in any of the Bitcoin camps. For evidence of such, I need only look at the near-universally asinine replies issued as 'rebuttals' to the points I make.
I haven't seen a single decent response to jbreher so far, so there's some merit to this claim.

Also, the market cap argument some people brought up doesn't follow. Popularity does not imply superiority by technical standards.

The market picks the winners. The market doesn't always care about "superior technology".
That's fair if the argument is made that way. But using the market's decision as an argument for which is "better" in a technical argument doesn't make sense.

I don't think there's anything wrong with just outright stating that you're into Bitcoin because the most prominent representatives of BCash are a bunch of ass wipes that can not be trusted. And that's clearly the reasoning that most people arguing with jbreher are following. After all they're clearly incapable of having a technical debate about the matter. I fall into that camp as well, but I'm not going to pretend that I can hold a candle to jbreher on this topic. Never bothered getting into the technicalities of BTC so can't argue on his level.

If they were the only information that I had regarding BTC vs BCash I would be siding with BCash myself. So maybe some people in this thread should take a step back and consider the implications of their petty tribalism with regard to new coiners.

The game isn't over yet, and if all that new people have to go by is a bunch of nonsense vs technical arguments we could very well see BCash overtaking.

So for whatever reasons, people who care about BTC may want to consider whether or not they want to taint its image with retarded personal attacks and complete absence of rationality.



1762. Post 50526605 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 09, 2019, 03:33:37 AM
Popularity does not imply superiority by technical standards.

1.  Agreed.  Popularity does not imply superior technology.  

2.  Conversely, superior technology does not imply popularity.  Superior technology loses all the time, especially when going up against a competitor with entrenched network effects. Inferior protocols win. All. The. Time.

3.  If you are trying to build a global competitor to fiat, popularity and network effects are incredibly important.  

It is unquestionable that Bitcoin has stronger network effects than Bcash, by orders of magnitude.  

Further Bcash technology (BCH and SV) is inferior, because its security model is weak.  Its security model is weak for a number of reasons, all of which come back to a lack of effective decentralization. Without an effective security model, it is not an attractive store of value.  If you are not an effective store of value, you cannot gain network effects.  

If you have inferior network effect and inferior technology, then you have a snowballs chance. In the unlikely event that 8MB blocks became essential for survival, community consensus would rapidly coalesce around 8MB blocks, there would be a hard fork and BCH and SV would remain stranded assets. But the reality is that 8MB are completely unnecessary and would make BTC weaker, not stronger. Accordingly no such consensus exists.


 I am far more worried about a disruptive innnovation which does away with the need for a blockchain (such as Grin) than I am worried about a Bitcoin carbon copy with a couple of parameter tweaks.  



Good post. But keep in mind that networks can grow and die rapidly. Especially in volatile phases.

Billions of people are going to get into blockchain in the coming years.

And dumb moonbois will by default be more attracted to slimy personalities that talk big, while the more rational people will shy away from tribal arguments. If most Bitcoiners started arguing in the manner as some people in this thread do we could very quickly see BCash overtaking, not because of people moving over but because of new people making their decisions.


Does Grin not have a blockchain? I thought the only thing that made it unique was it's inflation model. (Edit: Nvm just saw Biodom's post.)



1763. Post 50526735 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 09, 2019, 10:05:49 AM


https://twitter.com/ReformedBroker/status/1114968054931316736

 Shocked  Shocked
Germany is so full of cucks that they're legitimately scared of stocks and building wealth.

Source: https://www.handelsblatt.com/today/opinion/be-careful-why-germans-stubbornly-insist-on-making-bad-investment-decisions/23583688.html?ticket=ST-2183996-ne4JKyc4gH9QlbZDjIAn-ap1



1764. Post 50526760 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 09, 2019, 10:16:57 AM
Pretty sure this is the 73rd time that mining has been banned in China
In other news, Bitcoin is deadagain



1765. Post 50526841 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 09, 2019, 11:22:49 AM
Let me get this correct, you did advocate for larger blocks, but now you don't. You changed your mind.

You are incorrect. My advocacy has always been for no protocol-determined block limit.
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What you really want is a "dynamic block size", that Miner's will set themselves, be it Small (80kB) or Large (8GB), doesn't matter.

Absolutely. Now you seem to have caught up.
I see where you're at, but I have a problem with the "bankers" (miners) being able to set technical parameters without the users' (user nodes) consent. What I expect miners/bankers to do in such a situation is to build taller entry barriers. Such as enlarging the block size even without immediate financial reward - that is, even if their profit doesn't change or even dips marginally. This would discourage new users from running full nodes.

I know your opinion that "fully validating user nodes", or whatever you call the non-mining nodes, add no value to the network. I beg to differ. They can and will ignore malformed blocks. They verify. And "verify don't trust" is probably the strongest of bitcoin's values. When that verification goes away, we - the bitcoiners, including yourself by your own definition - are going to have to fall back to trusting the "bankers".

That's why I am unable to understand the philosophy/motivations behind your stance. You are definitely not stupid, either, so I guess that's why many regulars here can't attribute your posts to stupidity and instead bet on malice.

TL;DR When larger blocks are really needed by the users, we will get them.
The last point you've made was the nail in the coffin regarding my decision to side with Bitcoin. There's too much money involved to allow Bitcoin to die due to technical issues.



1766. Post 50527450 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 09, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
Pretty sure this is the 73rd time that mining has been banned in China
In other news, Bitcoin is deadagain
Like China would even really ban mining there, ha. Bitmain has too much money to bribe officials.
Do they still have that kind of money?



1767. Post 50527823 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 09, 2019, 12:39:29 PM
Pretty sure this is the 73rd time that mining has been banned in China
In other news, Bitcoin is deadagain
Like China would even really ban mining there, ha. Bitmain has too much money to bribe officials.
Do they still have that kind of money?
Enough, small companies can bribe, I'm sure they can still.
Pretty sad if mere 6-7 figure payments can impact legislation.



1768. Post 50528948 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 09, 2019, 01:36:47 PM

Blah blah blah larger block blah blah


You have bcash and bsv with larger blocks, go there you have options. What part of we don't want larger blocks is so hard to comprehend

Yeah, I get it. But some here seem utterly oblivious to the consequences thereof.

And you feel that you grasp full consequences of bcash and bsv and their unlimited blocks ...?

For the most part, yes. I certainly feel I have a greater than average grasp of such consequences -- upon both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Core -- than does the average Bitcoiner -- in any of the Bitcoin camps. For evidence of such, I need only look at the near-universally asinine replies issued as 'rebuttals' to the points I make.
I haven't seen a single decent response to jbreher so far, so there's some merit to this claim.

Also, the market cap argument some people brought up doesn't follow. Popularity does not imply superiority by technical standards.

The market picks the winners. The market doesn't always care about "superior technology".
That's fair if the argument is made that way. But using the market's decision as an argument for which is "better" in a technical argument doesn't make sense.

I don't think there's anything wrong with just outright stating that you're into Bitcoin because the most prominent representatives of BCash are a bunch of ass wipes that can not be trusted. And that's clearly the reasoning that most people arguing with jbreher are following. After all they're clearly incapable of having a technical debate about the matter. I fall into that camp as well, but I'm not going to pretend that I can hold a candle to jbreher on this topic. Never bothered getting into the technicalities of BTC so can't argue on his level.

If they were the only information that I had regarding BTC vs BCash I would be siding with BCash myself. So maybe some people in this thread should take a step back and consider the implications of their petty tribalism with regard to new coiners.

The game isn't over yet, and if all that new people have to go by is a bunch of nonsense vs technical arguments we could very well see BCash overtaking.

So for whatever reasons, people who care about BTC may want to consider whether or not they want to taint its image with retarded personal attacks and complete absence of rationality.

First of all, I don't believe you need to explain it on technical level why bigger blocks are not a permanent solution to unconfirmed transaction. if 1MB is not bigger enough what makes you think 1GB will be? read back and see my highway analogy and how impracticable it is.

Want a technical explanation of the impact of having every single transaction recorded on the blockchain and also the blockchain having a bigger blocks...

1. Database Size
Lets assume Bitcoin is now the standard peer-to-peer payment method. for Simplicity, let assume there will be 1,000,000,000 Transaction a day. Each transaction is approx 250b. (assuming there is only one input and one output). 41,666,666 / Hour or 6,944,444 /10Mins

This will mean we need a min of 1.736GB blocksize to accommodate the transactions.
So...
Every Block: 1.736GB
Every Hour: 10.416GB
Every Day:  250GB
Every Year: 91,250GB
is added to the blockchain

2. Hardware Requirements
Using a base line, and I am being conservative, of 30sec and 200MB (Should be about 1GB-2GB) of RAM to Validate and Confirm 1MB.
1,736MB would require approx 868mins or 14.4Hours  to confirm a block
1,736MB would require approx 347GB of RAM
1,736MB would cost $0.034 (0.02c per GB) or $1,825.00 per year (assuming your computer had enough SATA interfaces)

3. Internet Connection/Bandwidth required
Assuming everyone is on a 1GB fiber connection
1000mBIT / 8bit = 125MB/sec will take 13secs not including overheads, retry missed packet etc etc....
13secs to get to the first node (2 Available to Rely)
26secs to get to another 2 nodes (4 Available to Rely)
39secs to get to another 4 nodes (8 Available to Rely)
52secs to get to another 8 nodes (16 Available to Rely)
65secs to get to another 16 nodes (32 Available to Rely)
78secs to get to another 32 nodes (64 Available to Rely)
91secs to get to another 64 nodes (128 Available to Rely)
104secs to get to another 128 nodes (256 Available to Rely)
117secs to get to another 256 nodes (512 Available to Rely)
130secs to get to another 512 nodes (1024 Available to Rely)
143secs to get to another 1024 nodes (2048 Available to Rely)
156secs to get to another 2048 nodes (4096 Available to Rely)

You will also require a data plan of 7.5TB a month for below.
Every Block: 1.736GB
Every Hour: 10.416GB
Every Day:  250GB
Every Year: 91,250GB

So just to recap the above,

You would need to buy a machine capable of handling 1TB of RAM and possible a RAID Storage that can handle 91TB of Hard Drive Space
You would need and awesome internet connection, maybe two, one for your node the other for netflix
And lets say all this is possible and affordable, you will be spending half the day validation/confirming just 1 block.

From a mining point of view, there would be many orphan and rejected blocks given it takes a large amount of time to validate/confirmed blocks. It will also advantage the last miner who has found the block as they can start on the next block before anyone else.

Say good bye to decentralization of Bitcoin Nodes. Only the Rich and Powerful Corporations will run a full node and destroy the very fabric Bitcoin was built for - Decentralization

In other words, we need to scale a different way! Bigger Blocks/Dynamic Blocks are not the answer.

You are right on a few things, you can not argue with jbreher, because he doesn't actually know what he wants.

First it was "bigger blocks", so i pulled him up on that, and then it is a "no protocol-determined block limit" and now it is a "dynamic block size" that miners can decided what they want.

The other thing that you are definitely right about is that the "game is not over yet". But is sure isn't a game between BTC vs BCH/SV.

It is BTC against another tech that will change the way we look at this whole peer-to-peer payment system. not just another clone of Bitcoin but a real game changer! that is what i am worried about!
Internet speeds are irrelevant, as they increase rapidly as data usage increases. The capacity is not even remotely near its maximum (last I checked 100~1000 GBit for consumers were possible but simply not sensible right now), even if you exclude all the satellites that are being launched over the coming years.

Data plans irrelevant as most countries don't have "data plans" for home use and offer unlimited bandwidth instead.

Storage is irrelevant as well. Even 4 TB SSDs only cost a few hundred bucks these days. By the time storage became an issue we'll have 50-100 TB hard drives for a couple hundred dollars.

RAM seems the only sensible bottleneck if your numbers are accurate. $6 per GB currently and I haven't seen RAM size increase as much as other hardware. But that seems to be mostly because of a lack of utility rather than technical implausibility.

I also fail to see how your highway analogy is supposed to hold. Highways are inherently limited by physical space. Hardware inherently works in a different way. If we had arbitrary amounts of space that we could build on economically we'd have no problem with building even a personal lane for every single human in the world. And with hardware we actually do. It takes sometime to develop and scale, but so far there's no end in sight to how much data we can get from any one point on earth to any other.


I have no idea about the implications on mining and centralization though.


As far as a "real game changer" is concerned. That's already Bitcoin. It solves one of humanity's biggest issues. Banks fucking around and screwing the entire population. For a new "real game changer" to appear we would first require a new "real problem".
And Bitcoin hasn't even been around long enough to really get rid of the issues that come with banking, privatized profits, socialized losses, as well as the fiat toilet paper printing press.

It'll probably take a few decades until we can really identify new serious problems and have people give enough of a shit about them for some to try and someone to actually succeed in solving them as well as people actually jumping ship.



1769. Post 50528967 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.40h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 09, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
Pretty sure this is the 73rd time that mining has been banned in China
In other news, Bitcoin is deadagain
Like China would even really ban mining there, ha. Bitmain has too much money to bribe officials.
Do they still have that kind of money?
Enough, small companies can bribe, I'm sure they can still.
Pretty sad if mere 6-7 figure payments can impact legislation.
I'm pretty sure that can impact it even in the US.

 ...but fake news is so much cheaper.  Why waste the money on bureaucrats?

Speed/efficiency.



1770. Post 50539698 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 09, 2019, 03:00:27 PM
Internet speeds are irrelevant, as they increase rapidly as data usage increases. The capacity is not even remotely near its maximum (last I checked 100~1000 GBit for consumers were possible but simply not sensible right now), even if you exclude all the satellites that are being launched over the coming years.

Data plans irrelevant as most countries don't have "data plans" for home use and offer unlimited bandwidth instead.

Storage is irrelevant as well. Even 4 TB SSDs only cost a few hundred bucks these days. By the time storage became an issue we'll have 50-100 TB hard drives for a couple hundred dollars.

RAM seems the only sensible bottleneck if your numbers are accurate. $6 per GB currently and I haven't seen RAM size increase as much as other hardware. But that seems to be mostly because of a lack of utility rather than technical implausibility.

I also fail to see how your highway analogy is supposed to hold. Highways are inherently limited by physical space. Hardware inherently works in a different way. If we had arbitrary amounts of space that we could build on economically we'd have no problem with building even a personal lane for every single human in the world. And with hardware we actually do. It takes sometime to develop and scale, but so far there's no end in sight to how much data we can get from any one point on earth to any other.


I have no idea about the implications on mining and centralization though.


As far as a "real game changer" is concerned. That's already Bitcoin. It solves one of humanity's biggest issues. Banks fucking around and screwing the entire population. For a new "real game changer" to appear we would first require a new "real problem".
And Bitcoin hasn't even been around long enough to really get rid of the issues that come with banking, privatized profits, socialized losses, as well as the fiat toilet paper printing press.

It'll probably take a few decades until we can really identify new serious problems and have people give enough of a shit about them for some to try and someone to actually succeed in solving them as well as people actually jumping ship.

yes totally agree with you on your last point....

The highway analogy was not about space to build the highway, but rather it doesn't matter how many lanes are built, it will still eventually get to the same outcome as a 1 lane highway. You will still end up with traffic congestion, nothing has been solved. I was merely trying to associate with the fact bitcoin developers was not concerned with building more lanes, ie increase block size, but focusing on alternate transport methods or alternate transport habits. ie layer 2 scaling.

There also comes to a point where you may never be able to run full node from scratch. Based on a 30sec a 1MB validation time and i have read somewhere that it may be quadratically longer the bigger the block. will try and find the whitepaper on that one, but for arguments sake i used a linear model. You will be validating previous blocks and never catching up.

Just to confirm the 30sec theory, i'd shutdown my Bitcoin Node, was 8 blocks behind, fired it back up and it took about 5mins to catch up 10 blocks, two blocks was found while validating/catching up.

Maybe in developed countries the internet is more reliable, but what about us third world internet countries, like here in Australia! Struggling to even get 100Mbit business internet grade, let alone consumer grade. Typical speeds are more like 10mbit.

BTW 100-1000Gbit Internet available right now? who the fuck is offering that? i want one right now!






Again, your highway analogy only works with restrictive limitations. More highways irl only converge towards congestion because we can't build them indefinitely in an economic manner. If we kept building highways indefinitely, then at some point there would be more lanes than humans and thus no congestion whatsoever, even long before each person gets their own lane.
And again, our bandwidth is not even remotely utilized to its full capacity even when ignoring future changes. Congestion is a non-issue, at least with the issues that you've raised so far. As soon as it became one our bandwidth and data plans would adapt and that's that.

I'm saying 100-1000Gbit are easily possible, probably more by now since I've read about this quite a while ago. There's just no reason to offer those bandwidths when the most a consumer does is stream multiple 4k videos at the same time. See for example this article from 2007: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/12/swedish_woman_has_fastest_internet_connection/

The argument with undeveloped countries (in terms of internet speed) doesn't hold if you argue for decentralization, unless you want the majority of "normal" people to run a node. There are enough people who can easily afford to run nodes and they don't. This won't change even if it's free simply because there's no immediate incentive for anyone to do so. If people acted in the ways necessary for that to work none of us would be using fiat money.


Edit: Not trying to say that there is no problem with big blocks. I don't know enough about the protocol to pass judgement on that front. But the bandwidth and storage issues seem heavily overblown to me and suffering from the same type of linear mindset that keeps people out of Bitcoin and investing in general.



1771. Post 50539709 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 09, 2019, 03:36:19 PM
So:


I haven't seen a single decent response to jbreher so far, so there's some merit to this claim.

Also, the market cap argument some people brought up doesn't follow. Popularity does not imply superiority by technical standards.

Now you have. Bookmark it.
Not sure if you're just being confrontational for the sake of it. But my point remains unchanged.



1772. Post 50539717 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: gentlemand on April 09, 2019, 03:55:05 PM
I’m 2.1BTC away from a round number that I set myself as my total HODL stash. I might be able to reach it if we stay in this range until maybe Xmas.

If not then whatever, I have enough. Just a bit of OCD wanting to reach a certain figure.

I'm sig campaigning my way towards the magic 21,000 BTC figure. See you in 12,500 AD or so.
With some trading this would've actually been feasible at some point in time. Pretty crazy to think about.



1773. Post 50539954 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: mindrust on April 09, 2019, 08:13:43 PM
I am only 4.5BTC away from 10btc. It'll take a while if bitcoin keeps rising like this. 5 was my first target and I accomplished it a few weeks ago. 10 is next. 21 is after that. I'll probably cash out to lambo (by lambo i mean whatever i like) before I reach 21 but who knows.

Tone Vays says sub $3k, even sub 2k is still possible. I might get 4-5 coins instantly if that happens.
What's the deal with 21? Confirminati illumed?


Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 10, 2019, 08:52:41 AM
It’s Wednesday my man.
The third day in a seven day week? 21?



1774. Post 50540238 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 10, 2019, 02:11:43 AM
Trouble in the henhouse. A new way to multiply very large numbers together has been discovered

https://www.sciencealert.com/mathematicians-just-discovered-an-astonishing-new-way-to-multiply-numbers-together
As long as they can't unmultiply them (factor the product)...
Could potentially be used for data compression though, e.g. by just saving the factors and then computing the product on the go. Not sure how much, if anything, it would save though.

Thanks for the post, haven't heard about this in my usual circles yet.


Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 10, 2019, 09:16:21 AM
It’s Wednesday my man.
The third day in a seven day week? 21?

We don’t talk about big blocks or BCH on Wednesdays.  For reasons. Instead we post pictures of ladies rock climbing.
Fair enough. Can't find any pictures of rocks climbing girls though so I'll pass with severe disappointment in Google. I thought the future was now, but I guess I was mistaken.



1775. Post 50540312 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 10, 2019, 09:10:19 AM


I find it quite surprising that you would not know the significance of 21.

21 = 1/1 millionth of a bitcoin.  

And, a BTC accumulation goal of some peeps.
A bit arbitrary so passed my attention, but I guess it makes sense.



1776. Post 50540784 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: mOgliE on April 10, 2019, 10:00:19 AM


I find it quite surprising that you would not know the significance of 21.

21 = 1/1 millionth of a bitcoin.  

And, a BTC accumulation goal of some peeps.
A bit arbitrary so passed my attention, but I guess it makes sense.

Completely arbitrary and doesn't make any sense.

Just by taking into account all the lost, burnt and destroyed BTC you can reduce this number by at least 20%
You can reduce the maximum of potentially circulating BTC, but not the maximum of potentially existing BTC.



1777. Post 50541028 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 10, 2019, 10:24:37 AM
I'm setting up my own BTCPay server for payments from people buying seasteads.

It's actually not too difficult if you go the LunaNode route (An ISP has integrated all of the packages for you with an easy to use configuration page).

So that took me a few hours this morning (Originally I was setting everything up on my computer but decided, screw it...I'll take the easy route).

On the other side...accepting dollars is a pain in the ass. To do this we had to incorporate. This involved finding a country that won't tax us to death for not doing anything in their country. We had to meet in person and show proof to the lawyers. Pay them thousands of dollars (my LunaNode cost $20). Air fare, hotel, etc.

Now we will be setting up our Singapore bank account which will likely require another flight and hotels. Then the huge hassle of accepting credit cards or PayPal (for the earnest money downpayment) which we get to pay them for the convenience.

At some point, in the likely not too distant future, we will probably just say screw it...if you want a seastead you convert to bitcoins and join the sane people who use a sane money.

As a special tribute to the dollar, we're doing our Initial Seastead Offering (ISeaO) on April 15th.

Protest the income tax by putting your 1% downpayment on buying a seastead.

https://ocean.builders/april-15th-initial-seastead-offering/
Since you're already active in that area, would you mind answering a few questions regarding seasteading for me? The responses can be however brief since this won't be immediately relevant for quite a number of years to me, but I'd like to sketch out some future options regardless.


Is it plausible to create a small seasteading property on which you could have some sort of outdoor space, or at least indoor garden or small park?

Perhaps an inner courtyard type setup with or without a roof that may or may not be opened and closed?

Is it possible to get a per square meter cost estimate (excluding inventory)?

How do you go about acquiring "sea" (land/property) for something like this? Surely you can't just set up whatever arbitrarily?

Is this possible in areas where you don't have to worry about pirates or rely on guns? (I don't have a problem with guns, but I'd prefer it being an option as opposed to a necessity if that makes sense.)


Quote from: lightfoot on April 10, 2019, 10:30:45 AM
Meantime it looks like we're snug in the 5200-5300 range. Not a bad improvement from the 2800-3000 range a few weeks ago.

Progress. But does it mean BC is worth more, or fiat is simply worth less?
Did you get lost somehow and originally come from another timeline? Please share details.



1778. Post 50541210 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: lightfoot on April 10, 2019, 10:53:31 AM
Did you get lost somehow and originally come from another timeline? Please share details.
Sleepy. 3500ish.
You can PM me the details if you're worried about the NSA. I'm also down for PGP.



1779. Post 50542145 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 10, 2019, 11:41:13 AM

Since you're already active in that area, would you mind answering a few questions regarding seasteading for me? The responses can be however brief since this won't be immediately relevant for quite a number of years to me, but I'd like to sketch out some future options regardless.


Is it plausible to create a small seasteading property on which you could have some sort of outdoor space, or at least indoor garden or small park?

Small is easy. We're selling our DIY seasteads for $45k. This includes just a spar and a 7 meter wide steel plate that you can then customize as you wish.

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Perhaps an inner courtyard type setup with or without a roof that may or may not be opened and closed?

When thinking of seasteading start thinking in terms of boats instead of vast lands. The more open/empty space, the more the price.

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Is it possible to get a per square meter cost estimate (excluding inventory)?

Excluding everything, that barebones DIY will cost you about $108/sqft or $1169/sqm. You may consider that your "land" price. On top of that we build a fully self reliant home with solar electricity and fresh water (which brings the price up considerably).

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How do you go about acquiring "sea" (land/property) for something like this? Surely you can't just set up whatever arbitrarily?

We set up whatever, arbitrarily.

As long as it's over 12nm out we can put our seasteads there. But that comes with big waves which requires engineering to keep you above the waves.

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Is this possible in areas where you don't have to worry about pirates or rely on guns? (I don't have a problem with guns, but I'd prefer it being an option as opposed to a necessity if that makes sense.)
While we do not plan on building off of the coast of Somalia where there are pirates...
A pirate is defined as theft on the sea. If you're trying to find a place in the world where there are no thieves...good luck! Being a long boat ride where everyone can see you coming for miles is probably discouraging to most thieves. Also, us pulling up the ladder is likely better than a gun.

At least we're not robbed at least 30% of our salaries every paycheck living on the ocean.


Thanks a lot for the response. Suppose one was eyeing some 100sqm of space, would ~$2.5m be sufficient plus additional expenses for vanity furniture and inventory?

How hard would it be for someone to mess with you if you pull up the ladder? I had not considered that even entering could be prohibitive for someone already in your waters.

Are you running any aquaponics for veggies, herbs and fish?


I'm pretty lazy when it comes to leaving my quarters, so the general idea would be having enough "property" around to keep me entertained within my living space hence the perhaps odd questions.


Also, as many others already noted, the SeaBnB idea is fantastic, especially with the underwater restaurant. I'll certainly come visit one day.


Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 10, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Fucking IRS.

Got our final numbers from the accountant, and this is the first time, in a long time, that my is bill way higher than Ricks, owing to setting up my early retirement fund by selling off the BTC I did during the dying gasps of the bulls being devoured by the bears in late 2017/early 2018.

Rick suggested he would contribute $x towards my obligations, in exchange for $y Bitcorns. Think I'm going to take him up on the offer to preserve part of my cash stash, and cover my Q1 estimated taxes instead with the leftover liquidity, and put the rest back into a fund, somewhere.

At least this way, Bitcorn stays in the family, and would help towards his retirement plans if we have a couple more months of green dildos.

Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.

Dry breaks for both liquor and herb are quite nice from time to time indeed. It's pretty strange how you don't even really notice how much your mental space differs until you do take a break.



1780. Post 50542333 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 10, 2019, 12:11:59 PM
SIDEWAYS we go!



watching a bit forward in time...

Gyrsur posting 10 of those gold bars equals 12.5-20ish  BTC Smiley

That's the precise moment I am waiting for to buy a 1KG bar for around 1 BTC.
If it wasn't so easy to steal I'd get myself one at that point for shits and giggles and use it as furniture.



1781. Post 50542864 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 10, 2019, 12:32:18 PM
Dry breaks for both liquor and herb are quite nice from time to time indeed.

The Herb is a gift from Jah that helps me feel more in tune with life and relaxed. It inspires me to do creative things, and being more calm, reasonable, and introspective, while enduring the human condition, on a daily basis.

Alcohol, on the other hand, just shuts me down, and destroys any ability to work at anything resembling peak-efficiency.

The Herb has been a part of my life for longer than I care to admit. I've considered donating my body to science upon my passing, as a case study for chronic herb use, but Rick has some reservations.

I would rather eliminate all other vices from my life, than part with The Herb.

The Herb is life.

EDIT: Looks like a play for $5,300 is in the making.
I've been partaking in the herb for the majority of my life, mostly daily and starting off my day with it. I take occasional breaks ranging from a few days over a few weeks all the way to 1-2 months though. The breaks on the herb bring heavy lucid dreams though and they also reignite my drive.
Whenever I get too lazy I just stop smoking for a while and go full hyperactive assburger again. Lasts well beyond the break as well, otherwise I probably wouldn't bother. The breaks also amplify the effects once you recommence, which is quite nice.

Have you considered donating your and Rick's body to cryopreservation? If it doesn't work who cares, dead anyways. If it does, wee. The plans cost virtually nothing these days, if not right now then certainly when Bitcoin goes parabolic again (<1 BTC per person at that point).


Quote from: bitserve on April 10, 2019, 12:26:19 PM
1BTC for 1KG bar. That's my price and my limit (max amount of gold I would hodl/bury). I think it is ok for giggles no matter what.

No way I would ever be buying more than a 1 KG bar just for "historical" reasons. Fuck that 400oz bar.

We are "only" around 10x away from that moment. I have seen Bitcoin do crazier things than that.
I suppose canning one BTC for a kg of gold wouldn't hurt. Also, holy fuck platinum is cheap. I always thought it cost significantly more than gold but it's actually cheaper right now. I honestly don't see metal prices lasting much longer though. Couple of decades at best.



1782. Post 50543014 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 10, 2019, 01:16:04 PM
Have you considered donating your and Rick's body to cryopreservation?

No interest in it at all. Don't have any faith in the science behind it.

I'm holding out for uploading my consciousness within the next 40 years - should I last that long.
That's what I'm betting on myself, as well as life extension/rejuvenation. Keeping an open mind about the freezing thing though, but still got a long ass time before I need to worry about it for real. Given the low cost the option at least seems interesting though, even if it's a dud. Dead me won't care either way.



1783. Post 50543345 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 10, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Thanks a lot for the response. Suppose one was eyeing some 100sqm of space, would ~$2.5m be sufficient plus additional expenses for vanity furniture and inventory?

If you count the floors down inside the spar as living space as well as the deck on top then you get close to 100 sqm with just our $150k seastead. But we certainly do not plan on keeping them that small. We just want to keep the costs down. But we have big plans for business and mansion setups with underwater bedrooms that look out into the water.  With the restaurant we are doing a 10m diameter underwater room. That one room is close to 80 sqm.

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How hard would it be for someone to mess with you if you pull up the ladder? I had not considered that even entering could be prohibitive for someone already in your waters.
Unless they brought their own means of getting onto the seastead it will take them a long time to get up and likely risk destroying their boat in the process. Right now we have to moor our boat, lower the dinghy, take the dinghy to the ladder and climb up. We could literally watch any "pirates" for about 10 minutes as they prepare for their grand caper. For those that don't care to fight, just lock yourself inside the spar and wait for them to leave.

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Are you running any aquaponics for veggies, herbs and fish?
My gf keeps trying to grow sea grapes (seaweed) but the fish keep eating it. Or it dies before we get it into the water. Haven't gotten around to growing anything yet since we have plenty of food from the grocery store.


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I'm pretty lazy when it comes to leaving my quarters, so the general idea would be having enough "property" around to keep me entertained within my living space hence the perhaps odd questions.


Also, as many others already noted, the SeaBnB idea is fantastic, especially with the underwater restaurant. I'll certainly come visit one day.

I think the key to the seastead that people miss is the awesome opportunity for SCUBA divers. I am working on growing coral on the outside of my spar which will also protect the steel from rusting. There are an insane amount of fish already swimming around down there. With coral there will be more. There is a lot of SCUBA tourism in the area. We will likely be a new destination for them.

The restaurant should be pretty big. It will bring people out to see the seastead for themselves.

That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. Will seriously consider this for my settlement once I take care of some other things first.

Can't wait to visit the restaurant for starters. Do you have any timeline for it?

And probably my last question about seasteading in general. How likely is it that your boat would get rekt and what do you do in such a situation?



1784. Post 50543498 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: vapourminer on April 10, 2019, 01:32:23 PM
I'm holding out for uploading my consciousness within the next 40 years - should I last that long.

if that could be done, and aside from some interesting philosophical questions (is it "you" or just a very good copy), that might be interesting.. for a few thousand years i suppose.

as long as you (or the copy, whatever) can elect and is able to end its existence at some point. who wants an eternity of boredom?

also, we would need a very good weed simulator that can be uploaded as well.
There is no limit to novelty. So if you ever get bored you can always just hibernate or erase memory before coming back for more. Existence could then be like the ups and downs of the corn. I doubt that death is anything other than that, just in a more saddle way.

And the weed simulator at such a stage of development would make weed seem like catnip.


The "you" question can also be asked right now in nearly the same manner. Is the "you" from one second ago the same as the you experiencing reality in the present? From every moment to the next your body changes completely. As such, it is not inherently different from the rest of your environment. It might appear as if your environment is changing, especially if you move. But so does your body. So what exactly is "you"?

The prospect of uploading consciousness just makes this conundrum so apparent that one can no longer miss it.

Although I personally wouldn't pull the plug on "uploading consciousness" until there is a way for me to simultaneously and willingly experience both the real and virtual me as well as turning one or the other off at will.



1785. Post 50543605 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on April 10, 2019, 01:59:55 PM
Pewdiepie getting into Crypto.

https://www.coindesk.com/top-youtuber-pewdiepie-joins-blockchain-live-streaming-platform


I used to dislike PDP back in the day when he was just yelling around playing random games. But he seems to actually be a chill dude and fellow whisky lover. Nice of him to offer $5m to content creators, didn't see that coming.


Quote from: siggy_77 on April 10, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".


So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...



Someone care to throw this guy a merit for me please? Don't see many newbies participating in non-moonlambo discussions around BTCT.



1786. Post 50543643 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on April 10, 2019, 02:05:22 PM
I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".


So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...




Go play SOMA (or watch a playthrough). Very interesting story which makes you feel this dilemma first hand.

I agree with you that without continuity it isn't you.
What about anesthesia?


Added SOMA to my bucket list.



1787. Post 50544016 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 10, 2019, 02:23:05 PM
Either, you are shit stirring me or you genuinely cannot see where the analogy leads you...

I leave you with this quote from Einstein,

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"

(and yes, I know there is. no evidence that Einstein wrote or spoke the statement above)
The analogy doesn't make sense, regardless of how many times your insane mind chooses to repeat it. Data can be visualized with highways but it's by no means bound by the same rules as human traffic. If you fail to see this I can't help you.




Quote from: wachtwoord on April 10, 2019, 02:25:55 PM
I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".


So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...




Go play SOMA (or watch a playthrough). Very interesting story which makes you feel this dilemma first hand.

I agree with you that without continuity it isn't you.
What about anesthesia?


Added SOMA to my bucket list.

Anesthesia is like sleep, I don't consider going to sleep the same as dying. What differs it mainly from a mind upload is that your brain processing is continuous and it's not possible for several "instances" of "you" to exist simultaneously and grow apart.

I mean if I copy your brain and place it in a new host body do you expect to wake up in the other body? What if the original body (with your original brain) is revived as well? You would be 2 separate individuals with no direct brain connection.

I think the only way to preserve continuity is through the "ship of theseus" (see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus) by slowly swapping out parts. So I believe in rejuvenation and transhumanism.

Edit:
And really play or watch SOMA. It's awesome.
That's what you say, but how do you really know that the you that wakes up after being tranquilized is the same as the you that went to the doctor? I generally have a hard time finding a distinction between environment and body/mind. On a fundamental level they all seem the same.


For all practical intents and purposes however:

Slowly swapping out parts doesn't cut it for me, since I can't know if there isn't one "tiny spec of me" in the brain that once replaced kills me off without making any trace to external observers. The only way I'd be convinced would be if I could freely swap between digital and physical body, while also having the option to simultaneously perceive both.


What do you mean play or watch by the way? Is there a movie? Which would you recommend?



1788. Post 50551582 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 10, 2019, 04:54:54 PM
Good afternoon everyone especially to my WO brothers/sisters. Thanks to those holder who are still hodling their coin even at this price,


What do you mean "even at this price"? Roll Eyes



1789. Post 50551890 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on April 10, 2019, 07:20:32 PM
With all that talk about abstinence in here I do have to say it feels wonderful to open a good craft beer and observe these green dildos rising up!



don't forget your XhomerX original Roll Eyes

How did I ever survive without it??

EDIT: it doesn't seem to be working, it still shows my old one

it will pop up takes a bit of time Smiley

Can't wait to join the cult!
When will head hat priest xhomerx create our digital church that will find itself in the books of history?



1790. Post 50551960 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 10, 2019, 08:12:13 PM
Fair enough. Can't find any pictures of rocks climbing girls though so I'll pass with severe disappointment in Google. I thought the future was now, but I guess I was mistaken.

I did not know rock climbing girls in shorts or bikinis was a thing, either, but pics of such seem to be all over the interwebs..

Even when they might be harder to find, these days, there are pics.


I wasn't talking about girls climbing rocks.



1791. Post 50552225 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 10, 2019, 11:45:33 PM
Buffett buys massively at above 500K in a few years, lol.

I'd sell to Buffet.

One.

In person.

Rub it in his face.

If his interested in Some Bcash for a few bucks you let him pay for those or you just give them out of generousity ? With the 500K real BTC’s

No. Buffet gets to pay a premium for his ignorant trash-talk.
The old crock buys apple at all time high, he obviously has lost it when it comes to tech.
Trying to use the same line of reasoning to buy tech stocks that he used when buying Coca Cola? Because a strong brand can keep goods that cost more than $1 alive forever. Just like BlackBerry.



1792. Post 50555162 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 11, 2019, 08:53:17 AM
Katie Bouman who brought us the picture of the black hole


Damn, smart and cute.



1793. Post 50566598 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Elwar on April 11, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. Will seriously consider this for my settlement once I take care of some other things first.

Can't wait to visit the restaurant for starters. Do you have any timeline for it?

And probably my last question about seasteading in general. How likely is it that your boat would get rekt and what do you do in such a situation?

Likely timeline for the restaurant is a matter of months. I'm in for a busy summer (people keep asking if I get bored on the seastead...).

The likelihood of our seastead getting rekt is very minimal. I think we've seen the biggest winds for the year while we were out there our first few weeks. We woke up every morning expecting some damage but it was just fine.

The production version will be extra safe. The interior of the spar will be completely void of any holes (seacocks/valves/etc). So in the very worst case scenario you can close off your spar and hunker down like going into your basement. Or you have the option of staying in your platform which is also a life raft. The two are not connected so if the spar sinks, the platform stays up. If the platform falls off (or something happens to it) you can go into the spar.

But most likely if the storm of the century is coming through...you go to one of the nearby islands and wait out the storm.

We are building the seasteads to withstand 5 meter waves. Where we are located the highest wave we should see in 100 years is 5 meters. High but rare. Average is about .5 meter waves.
What about the boat that you use to get onto the seastead? Is it possible to get stranded?



1794. Post 50566630 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 11, 2019, 02:47:57 PM
Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".
Bob speaking the truth here! On top of that the ACA fucked up private insurances and allowed them to have almost zero competition and be little duopolies.
Come on, that's not possible. Big government exists to break up monopolies! Roll Eyes



1795. Post 50566703 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 11, 2019, 04:23:29 PM
Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Hi Bob

Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs.   If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control.

Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law?
I don't know about jail time. Do illegals go to jail for immigrating illegally? (I really don't know.)

But yes, I certainly agree with legal penalties for employers who employ illegals. Be it substantial financial penalties (not just a tiny tap on the wrist like with banks & co), jail time, or whatever else curbs the issue.


Either we have social securities or we have no borders. Can't have both, at the very least not until the entire world is similarly productive.



1796. Post 50566754 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 11, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
I want to be quite clear here.  

Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?

Edit:  they shut down illegal immigration in Australia (mostly Pacific Islands) and the farmers rioted because they had no one to pick the harvest.  It will be a hell of a fight in the US as well if immigration is turned off.  
Maybe give the jobs to a bunch of kids? I'm sure some of them will be happy to earn some pocket money, and learn some lessons in the process. Or is "child labour" really that bad when it's voluntary? I quite enjoyed working the gardens and farms as a kid and I certainly wasn't being exploited.



1797. Post 50566759 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 11, 2019, 05:01:44 PM

Do you want a monthly statistic in WO?

Hi I like this.  But it would be great to take it back as far as possible, so we can compare price growth and post count and see if a possible leading indicator. 

If this is the objective, an quote of the historical and an quote of the current year, published on the 1st of each month.

First I want to know if this information is interesting in the WO thread.

Thx. Wink
Yes. It is. I don't have any merit left to send your way though, but I see others have you covered.



1798. Post 50566937 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 11, 2019, 10:35:58 PM
Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Yeah right... 



A purported black gay man complaining that other socially marginalized people are getting too many societal protections, including access to basic life choices.

The irony.. the irony.
I was not aware that you were a racist JJG.



1799. Post 50566947 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Biodom on April 11, 2019, 10:46:43 PM
A simple fact:

in 1975 the minimal wage was $5.15 EDIT: looked at a wrong reference, apparently it was $2.10/hr in 1975, which is $9.9 now
in 2019 the minimal wage is $7.25

Well, $5.15 2.1 adjusted for inflation would be $24.33 9.9 today, so $15 number is not crazy.

Bob surely produces mixed messages (like paying 1% for 7 fig btc tx is OK, but $15/hr for MickeyD is too much).
The rich are different..., but I liked him more during drinking period...

I would pay 1% of any amount if it meant making sure that I won't lose it. If all other exchanges were Mt. Gox then even 5% could be preferable. It's called an insurance.

I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income?



1800. Post 50566991 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 11, 2019, 11:21:08 PM
Please let STFU Thursday JJG kindly flow into STFU Friday JJG

Just a friendly WO suggestion.


I'm starting to get it now. Guess it took me longer because I barely skimmed so many of his posts due to the oversupply of redundancy.



1801. Post 50567024 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 11, 2019, 11:41:47 PM
The point about a $15 wage demand at McDonalds, leading to workers being replaced with $35k kiosks, was an example of capitalism and the free market responding to stimulus.

I do automation for a living and am all for $35k kiosks. I also understand well the limits of automation and the need for humans to mop up any deviations.  

The minimum wage in Australia is A$22 which is US$15.60. We have full employment here in Australia (5% unemployment rate).  

If your business is so shit you can’t afford to pay a living wage, then you deserve to go out of business. I’m looking at you, Walmart.
Point in case for the farmer and illegal worker conundrum.



1802. Post 50567122 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 12, 2019, 03:17:05 AM
I believe minimum wage is morally wrong because it makes it illegal for you to sell your labor for under a certain price.

Likely you misspoke, here.  Morally wrong and illegal are two different things.


Likely you misread Lambie... Minimum wages makes ilegal to work being paid less than that... and it is morally wrong to impose such limitation because it ends up in more unemployment and bars from working (and being paid *anything*) people that do not produce/deserve more than that. I do agree... with some reserves though.

I doubt that I misread or misunderstood Lambie...

Minimum wage brings an attempt at a balancing of interests, and sometimes those interests are not very well balanced, but whether something is immoral or illegal tend to be different questions, and sometimes might overlap.. but they are a bit different categories of consideration.
You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing?

Quote from: Biodom on April 12, 2019, 04:28:27 AM
I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income?

Historically, there was a connection between productivity and income, but it largely disappeared in the last 45 years or so.
These are the facts:
Productivity change 1973-2017: 77%
Hourly pay during the same period: 12.4%
https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

I don't care what causes this, but it can't be sustainable.
That's a different topic altogether. I don't see the connection between paying 1% on Gemini vs not wanting a minimum wage. One is an insurance, the other is determined based on how much value they add as well as how replaceable the worker is (supply vs demand).

As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business.



1803. Post 50567177 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 12, 2019, 04:40:20 AM
Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Yeah right...  


A purported black gay man complaining that other socially marginalized people are getting too many societal protections, including access to basic life choices.

The irony.. the irony.
I was not aware that you were a racist JJG.

Your evidence?  I might have to roll my eyes at you too...


What a goofball!!!!  or would retarded be a better assertion, here?

hahahahaha   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
The way in which you spam smileys and repeatedly fail to distill the content of posts made by numerous people as well as the fact that your walls of text are generally the same poor points rephrased several times implies very little hope for you if I was truly to be retarded.

Also, calling third trimester abortions "basic life choices" depicts you as a degenerate of the highest order.



1804. Post 50567198 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 12, 2019, 04:46:06 AM
[edited out]
You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing?

Aren't you the expert, now.   Says that didn't read my posts, but knows how to sum them up.  Whoaza!!!

I will let my posts speak for themselves..     Shocked
I read enough of them to know that you think that killing babies is a "basic life choice".



1805. Post 50567286 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Biodom on April 12, 2019, 04:45:22 AM
I believe minimum wage is morally wrong because it makes it illegal for you to sell your labor for under a certain price.

Likely you misspoke, here.  Morally wrong and illegal are two different things.


Likely you misread Lambie... Minimum wages makes ilegal to work being paid less than that... and it is morally wrong to impose such limitation because it ends up in more unemployment and bars from working (and being paid *anything*) people that do not produce/deserve more than that. I do agree... with some reserves though.

I doubt that I misread or misunderstood Lambie...

Minimum wage brings an attempt at a balancing of interests, and sometimes those interests are not very well balanced, but whether something is immoral or illegal tend to be different questions, and sometimes might overlap.. but they are a bit different categories of consideration.
You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing?

I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income?

Historically, there was a connection between productivity and income, but it largely disappeared in the last 45 years or so.
These are the facts:
Productivity change 1973-2017: 77%
Hourly pay during the same period: 12.4%
https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

I don't care what causes this, but it can't be sustainable.
As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business.

This does not explain why in 1950-1973 period two graphs coincided.
A simpler explanation would be that after 1973 economy get "financialized" and a larger slice of production gains (in %) went into the pocket of financiers, CEOs, etc.
Perhaps it is a natural law, but then 1789 is a natural law as well. Do we want a repeat? I hope, not.
Pauperizing workers cannot end in anything even remotely good down the pike.
Can it last another 50 years?
Maybe, but i hope to be out of the workforce, politics, etc one way or another well before that.
Resources congregating around a select few central points indeed appears to be a natural law of some sort. Just look at the universe (distribution of galaxies, stars within), countries, cities, wealth etc.

I think the solution to the problem is better education and fact bases political and public discourse though. People need to do things that they and others care about.



1806. Post 50567761 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 12, 2019, 04:55:55 AM
As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business.

The productivity tool is a laptop which costs perhaps $1k.  It is neither here nor there who buys the laptop - it’s only $1k.   It is what you do with the laptop that matters.
I agree that some of the costs aren't going to be relevant, but I don't think that someone doing "grunt work" (repetitive tasks) while using expensive tools is being as productive as those numbers seem to indicate.

I do not know how strong this effect is, but I doubt it's being sufficiently (or at all) considered given that there is literally zero mention of it. Alas, to me this metric seems like either a lack of statistical understanding or political use of statistics.

If there's an oversupply of workers who can use tools that leverage productivity doing the same tasks then naturally they will earn less.

That means that people are learning the wrong things more than anything though.

People have to learn that when there's an oversupply they should look for other avenues where they can leverage their income better. Too much supply lowers your relative productivity substantially, as such I dispute the claim that worker productivity has gone up. Given the sheer amount of low level tasks I'd lean towards assuming that it remained largely constant.


Also, the productivity tool is not just a laptop. Software, data, data processing (cloud computing) in the case of IT jobs are just some factors that the worker has no ownership of and thus can't be accredited with the increase in productivity that these provide.



1807. Post 50567869 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Olegya199 on April 12, 2019, 06:02:43 AM
Good morning WO's! I have a good news!
Changpen Zhao reminded that Craig Wright is not Satoshi, and even delisted Bitcoin SV from the stock exchange.



I'm starting to like the guy. Even if one could make an argument that he's trying to get attention.

Did CSW pull some new stunt recently though or what's the deal here?



1808. Post 50568408 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: nutildah on April 12, 2019, 06:50:29 AM
Did CSW pull some new stunt recently though or what's the deal here?

He inferred he would pay $5k for the dox of one of his most vocal critics, Hodlnaut, so that way he could sue him for saying he's not Satoshi.

For a man who's supposedly very smart, he sure is retarded.
Wonder what the fuck is going on in that guy's head and how he became such a clown.



1809. Post 50570215 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Ibian on April 12, 2019, 09:25:34 AM
Of course there is a limit to how long any organism can live. By necessity. In order for the young to live the old have to die.

Would be great to live a thousand years just to see how things play out. But if everyone did it there would be no option but to murder one another in a variety of new and creative ways. And maybe that's why there have been so many socialist states with mass murders recently.
With increase in intelligence there's an increase in how much food and space can be created or utilized. Death will be a matter of choice one day.



1810. Post 50571232 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 12, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
Madame Alexa knows how many Bitcoin you have



i will never own an alexa/google/amazon voice activated device, unless there is an actual physical switch to cut the mics out of circuit.

i didnt really understand fully the ramification till the other day when i was going over with my wife  how to recover my btc stack in case of my death. i was going to tell her the passphrase to my trezor (it would be written down also, this was just for discussion). but when i was going to tell the the passphrase i stopped. because while i dont own an alexa/google/amazon device, i do have a smartphone and smart watch, which have mics of course.

so here i am in my own house, wondering if anything i say might go out to servers that humans can access (humans review random snips of voice data).

wtf, my own home, which i have spent considerable time and money hardening both physical and electronic networks, is useless if the closed source algo that trigger sending data for no fully understood by the end user.

btw many modern tvs have mics and web cams built in now. and IoT stuff like security cameras, some of which have mics so you can use then for intercoms, are notoriously bad at security and most will never get updates.

so much the attach surfaces are pretty big.

now i dont assume my phone and watch and compromised, but with the amount of money i have in btc it would be foolish to at least consider these scenarios,

like any smartphone or laptop with a built in mic is powered off and put in another room when setting up wallet seed words. paranoia? sure but it is based on failings of the current tech used.

Faraday cage room and Cryptosteel. Wink
Thinking of it, I'll probably just have to build a room like that when I bother getting a new property. Just in case I ever need to have some serious talks with somebody. Faraday cage + no electronic devices inside (smartphones could still record and send the audio later).

I think these kinds of problems are good to have though. They keep you on the edge if you consider them and keep you from turning into a potato and they're not as bad as having to worry about getting shot or eaten by a bear.



1811. Post 50581289 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: vapourminer on April 12, 2019, 02:15:46 PM
also, we would need a very good weed simulator that can be uploaded as well.

And the weed simulator at such a stage of development would make weed seem like catnip.

i would not want anything but the weed program, simply because most other recreation drugs alter thing too much for my taste and usually have crashes when they wear off. weed Just Works for my purposes, and i have a LOT of experience with it. its my ultimate drug of choice, no need for anything else.

btw ever read larry nivens known space series of books? in them he came up with the ultimate drug.. a wire is implanted directly to the pleasure center of the brain and delivers a trickle current to it. its so powerful and addictive that people can starve to death as nothing is more important than that wire. they were called wireheads, and a main character in the ringword series was a wirehead for a period of time.

as long as you (or the copy, whatever) can elect and is able to end its existence at some point. who wants an eternity of boredom?[/qoute]

Although I personally wouldn't pull the plug on "uploading consciousness" until there is a way for me to simultaneously and willingly experience both the real and virtual me as well as turning one or the other off at will.

[...]

There is no limit to novelty. So if you ever get bored you can always just hibernate or erase memory before coming back for more. Existence could then be like the ups and downs of the corn. I doubt that death is anything other than that, just in a more saddle way.

simply erasing learned experiences just means you will likely reach the same result (more or less) as the 1st run that led you to being bored to the point of wanting to cease existence. and i dont want some person to be able to modify my thinking or change the way i run such as restart/modify the way i run (like a "safe mode"... my consciousness doesnt do "safe mode") and no one should be able to  override my choice if i chose to erase meself rather than enter hibernate or whatever. if i so chose to end it, i want the copy, and all backups gone. if i hibernate i will always be ale to be restarted. thats a negative.

another thing about uploading some ones conscious that others me is the fact that others would now have access to the "source code" of you so to speak. its possible someone can change your thought to want to, say, run machinery, ships, anything that needs AI with a touch of human ingenuity and problem solving

no thanks.
You could have weed that always feels like that glorious first time where you just couldn't stop laughing. Or be as high as you want without feeling sluggish. It could be more intense while simultaneously leaving you with clarity of mind that a normal human can't even have right now.

Also, psychedelics have no crash whatsoever and neither does MDMA in sensible doses. I'm not into stimulants or excessive use of alcohol, but yeah I guess those have crashes.


And no, I haven't read that book. Sounds like heroin or that rat experiment with the pleasure button that they preferred over food though.



1812. Post 50581305 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on April 12, 2019, 03:28:46 PM

Unprofessional. I didn't expect this from Pomp and CZ.
I think it's quite professional to distance oneself from a well known and proven liar. You can't run business with an entity that has a reputation of manipulation without taking on substantial risks.

If CSW just had unpopular opinions I would fully agree with you. But he has been shown repeatedly to lie at every other chance that he gets and is thus a net negative on the space.



1813. Post 50581318 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 12, 2019, 03:31:19 PM


My new Wallet !!!  Wink

It may be that many who read WO, have never seen it.

Floppy disk > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk
The mighty Floppy disk
The only mobile storage available back then.
Who had one/some?
I had boxes of those things. Very fond memories of swapping in and out several dozens to install programs and Windows.



1814. Post 50581576 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2019, 04:30:40 PM
If you didnt spend 5 minutes waiting for an audio tape to load a game, you didnt live the golden age.
I miss my ZX Spectrum..All the squeaks and sounds only to end with an "R Tape Loading error"


10 Rem This is my private key

Save "wallet"

...good luck retrieving it  Grin

My first computer (games console) was a Commadore Amiga, 500 Plus.

I’m early 30’s.


I used to play Bomberman on one of those in school. Not sure which model it was though. Good times.



1815. Post 50581638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 12, 2019, 06:14:21 PM


My new Wallet !!!  Wink

It may be that many who read WO, have never seen it.

Floppy disk > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk
Better keep that thing well away from any magnets

You want a magnet-proof wallet?



Oops. I'm showing my age again.

 Problem there is you drop that box and you're screwed!

You could just digitalize the punch cards and then write a few lines of code to go through every permutation until one gives access to a wallet. Should be pretty damn quick too.



1816. Post 50581824 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Biodom on April 12, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
fascinating story...this guy sees things in pixels and how this relates to the nature of reality?
Quote
Through Padgett’s eyes, the puddle is transformed into complex rippling patterns, overlapping and forming shapes like stars or snowflakes. And he wants everyone else to see what he sees.

Quote
“They found that I had access to parts of the brain that we don’t have conscious access to and also the visual cortex was working in conjunction with the part of the brain that does mathematics, which obviously makes sense,” says Padgett.

Simplest explanation is that he has a faulty circuit there, more complex explanation would be a doozy...

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190411-the-violent-attack-that-turned-a-man-into-a-maths-genius

Perhaps, this guy should look at bitcoin charts and tell us the future (the right fractal).
Price charts have too much noise for that to work. Although I would still be interested in his thoughts as they develop over time while studying the matter. Doubt we'll get them though.



1817. Post 50585668 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 13, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
The first computer we had in my house



I think nobody will be interested in my first computers.... Roll Eyes and it will not be shocking that it was the nintendo NES and SEGA console from that time, all the game boys, playstation series, xbox's ....

and I think real computer use was only from my 18th year for msn or how did it was called, little bit of internet watching, but really using a computer and laptop... I'm ashamed but its maybe not longer as 5-6-7 years or something.

How the F*** did I got in BTC Roll Eyes

Does computers you guys posting, never saw those things in my life but here Smiley
Why ashamed? I'm sure every single one of us has seen things that the others haven't. That's what makes life so good. Just imagine how dull reality would be if there was so little to experience that everybody did the exact same thing.



1818. Post 50585693 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kenzawak on April 13, 2019, 08:16:16 AM
https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1116733748794540033


I hope the guy has the funds and lawyers necessary to bring an end to the Faketoshi saga.



1819. Post 50585764 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Icygreen on April 13, 2019, 08:35:22 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/bcdgg5/craig_calvin_want_to_sue_a_btc_supporter_on/ekr4swt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Even the frauds call him a fraud.  Grin

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. People make mistakes and Roger has seemed deeply unhappy in all of his interviews since at least around the fork if not earlier. Will see where he goes from here.



1820. Post 50585828 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: nutildah on April 13, 2019, 10:53:50 AM
Think Andreas said something along these lines, but this is not a cult and we don't have gods or dieties. If for some magical reason he has the keys to Satoshi's stash it would speak less of Satoshi than more of CSW. Not like people will turn to SV even if he could prove anything. His best case is people starting to believe that Satoshi got brain damaged and turned into CSW, oh well current BTC will live on...

My immediate reply was going to be "won't happen, not a problem", but then I remembered I felt the same way about Trump winning the election. I guess the point is anything is possible, though its more likely that Mark Zuckerberg will be the next president.
Is that kid actually running?



1821. Post 50586278 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 13, 2019, 12:30:08 PM
The first computer we had in my house



I think nobody will be interested in my first computers.... Roll Eyes and it will not be shocking that it was the nintendo NES and SEGA console from that time, all the game boys, playstation series, xbox's ....

and I think real computer use was only from my 18th year for msn or how did it was called, little bit of internet watching, but really using a computer and laptop... I'm ashamed but its maybe not longer as 5-6-7 years or something.

How the F*** did I got in BTC Roll Eyes

Does computers you guys posting, never saw those things in my life but here Smiley
Why ashamed? I'm sure every single one of us has seen things that the others haven't. That's what makes life so good. Just imagine how dull reality would be if there was so little to experience that everybody did the exact same thing.

Just like if everybody had the same opinions/view. Nothing to learn from others.
Now you're going a bit too far. Obviously if you disagree with me you have to be Hitler.



1822. Post 50586301 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: vapourminer on April 13, 2019, 12:20:37 PM
pretty much that, yes.

if you read one book by niven, i suggest ringworld, the 1st of the ringworld series. multiple award winner. one of those books you cant put down. even if youre not into science fiction its worth a read, its simply that good.


I don't really read books (my attention span is that of a goldfish). But I've ordered it and might eventually get around to it.



1823. Post 50595686 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kenzawak on April 14, 2019, 05:28:34 AM
DPR2 (Dread Pirate Roberts 2 aka Thomas White), founder of Silk Road 2 has been sentenced to 5 years and 4 months in prison.
He pleaded guilty to drug trafficking, money laundering and possessing child abuse images.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/12/silk_road_2/
So despite having done the same thing and being a pedophile DPR2 gets 5 years while Ross gets double lifetime? What a world.



1824. Post 50600148 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on April 14, 2019, 10:40:50 AM
^^
I do realize it was a Fun post Roll Eyes

forgive me, I'm just a German. We have no humor.  Cry

no humor no success with women.  Grin
German? Do you wait for the lights to turn green even when nobody is within a 100km radius of you?



1825. Post 50600173 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on April 14, 2019, 12:54:44 PM
^^
I do realize it was a Fun post Roll Eyes

forgive me, I'm just a German. We have no humor.  Cry

no humor no success with women.  Grin

Stop explaining yourself and get back to work. You were 3 minutes late today.
Shit, yours was better. I'll see myself to the corner of shame.



1826. Post 50615530 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4

6:55

Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.

His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."

Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.



1827. Post 50615630 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 15, 2019, 02:38:12 PM
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026666152

Fellow Binancians,

At Binance, we periodically review each digital asset we list to ensure that it continues to meet the high level of standard we expect. When a coin or token no longer meets this standard, or the industry changes, we conduct a more in-depth review and potentially delist it. We believe this best protects all of our users.

When we conduct these reviews, we consider a variety of factors. Here are some that drive whether we decide to delist a digital asset:

Commitment of team to project
Level and quality of development activity
Network / smart contract stability
Level of public communication
Responsiveness to our periodic due diligence requests
Evidence of unethical / fraudulent conduct
Contribution to a healthy and sustainable crypto ecosystem
Based on our most recent reviews, we have decided to delist and cease trading on all trading pairs for the following coin on 2019/04/22 at 10:00 AM UTC:

Bitcoin SV (BCHSV)
Please note:

All trade orders will be automatically removed after trading ceases in each respective trading pair.
To view your assets after trading ceases, please ensure you have not selected “Hide small assets” in your Funds page.
Withdrawals of these coins and tokens from Binance will continue to be supported until 2019/07/22 at 10:00 AM UTC.
We thank you for your support as we continue to build the crypto ecosystem in a way that promotes transparency and long-term, sustainable growth.

Binance Team

2019/04/15


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-sv/

Hopefully others will follow suit. I'm not for censorship of any kind, but thankfully CSW is always free to create his own exchange that his shitcoin can be traded on. Smiley



1828. Post 50615924 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 15, 2019, 03:01:02 PM
SV is down 25% in the last 7 days

If you have any, I suggest you transfer them all into bitcoin before it gets really ugly

 Cool
I thought it’s already ugly.
I thought it has always been ugly.

It was Jackie Stallone ugly!

It’s about to get Sloth from The Goonies ugly!





Both of those have a higher probability of being Satoshi than a Certain Someone W (w = weeb for lol)



1829. Post 50615974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 14, 2019, 03:13:09 PM
^
Well, I read a lot about Hal Finney and I do not remember seeing him before.
In any case, it seems very good, we do not know what awaits us from science in the future.
One day he will come back from the dead and sign the message just to bring clarity for posteriority. Of course it won't matter to Bitcoin itself at that point, but it will be nice to know regardless. And then we'll have Satoshi vs CSW movies.



1830. Post 50616051 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 15, 2019, 03:04:33 PM
From his website:
That's pretty sad, but almost to be expected. Governments don't care about the law, they just dictate it in ways as roundabout as necessary to get what they want.



1831. Post 50616074 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 15, 2019, 03:05:50 PM
Binance has now delisted BSV... officially! Let's see how far the decline goes...  Grin

Good!
Hopefully CW ends up selling his ass for 60 bucks a night in a cheap Motel to put food in his lying, arrogant gut.

I can’t wait to see the down fall of that oxygen thief.

Man.. that raggedy old thing couldn't be worth $60 could it?  Bob?  Someone who would have an opinion?
Would you not pay $60 to club his ass with a mace? I'd pay 60 BSV.



1832. Post 50616126 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 15, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
This is less than an hour old.

 Statement from Chad Elwartowski:

PLEASE SHARE THIS POST OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT

This is ridiculous. We lived on a floating house boat for a few weeks and now Thailand wants us killed.

We had to go underground because our contact warned us before this came out. Now we found out they are using a US submarine to hunt us. I'll say it right here.

Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.

Hunting us down to our death is just plain stupid and highlights exactly the reason someone would be willing to go out in middle of the ocean to get away from governments.

We never had any ill intentions and I even state plainly several times that I would not want to be a citizen of any seastead nation that would have me. We were hoping to bring tourism to Phuket with an underwater restaurant, floating hotels and medical research, tech jobs, etc. We had 3 wealthy entrepreneurs in the past week tell us they were coming to live in Phuket because they were excited about the project. We love Thailand. Nadia is a proud Thai. She is a proud Buddhist who does not support violence. I am a pacifist who would not harm a fly.

What we need:

Lawyers or anyone high up in the administration in Thailand to talk some sense into your military leaders.

Someone high up in the US that can help. I need to be able to go to the US embassy in Bangkok or some place near Phuket to get me out of the country. I need ideas for helping Nadia, a Thai citizen. She needs an embassy in Bangkok where she can seek asylum.

Nadia is just my girlfriend. She played no role in planning anything with the seastead. She just took video and stayed on the seastead with me. E-mail me at elwartowski@protonmail . com if you can help (not just suggestions...serious help).

Neither Nadia nor I are suicidal. We would never in our wildest dreams commit suicide. I want to live to the ripe age of at least 200. I love life. We love life together. We just wanted to be free. If just for one day.
Going to break etiquette and essentially bump my own post to the newest page.

Elwar is one of our own and I want to make sure people see his post and help if they can or at the very least know that he is for the moment being safe.
Screw etiquette, I almost missed this post.



1833. Post 50616137 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 15, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4

6:55

Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.

His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."

Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.

What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to romance the state.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

He is a fool.
It's not just obvious, they actually stated precisely that in one of their Coingeek conferences.


Quote from: VB1001 on April 15, 2019, 03:11:21 PM
^
Well, I read a lot about Hal Finney and I do not remember seeing him before.
In any case, it seems very good, we do not know what awaits us from science in the future.
One day he will come back from the dead and sign the message just to bring clarity for posteriority. Of course it won't matter to Bitcoin itself at that point, but it will be nice to know regardless. And then we'll have Satoshi vs CSW movies.

We have to start a cryogenization business, it's the future. Cool
I'll leave that to the smart people already working on it. A few years down the road I might throw some money at the problem after talking to proponents and critics of the matter in great length. But for now my main occupation is multiplying my Bitcoin stash. The more I can get now the more I can throw at moonshots like those.

I hope other Bitcoin OGs will be funding all sorts of insane ventures as well once we close in on 7 digits. We need more people like Musk in the world.



1834. Post 50616278 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: vroom on April 14, 2019, 03:45:51 PM


probably everyone will know this ...

And the explaining why you should change the pick...

But still like the reasoning of it Smiley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
The real answer is a triple rail drift.

Edit:
Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 14, 2019, 04:08:44 PM
But still like the reasoning of it Smiley

What if I'm looking to eliminate the maximum amount of people, because this planet is being raped of its resources ? Are you saying I should keep my original position, and not flip the switch ? Or should I flip the switch, which will lead to my goal of eliminating the most number of people Huh

Edit: RE: Poll, I blew the last one voting for $4,200, but was happy to be wrong with having us blast to $5k. Voted "No" in the current poll. Feel it is likely we won't ever see it dropping below $3k. Touching the $3k's ? Maybe, but gut bacteria says the $3,000's are behind us.
Resources are energy and energy is unlimited. We just need to stop being such fucking retards and git gud.


Edit2:
Quote from: Phil_S on April 14, 2019, 04:30:42 PM
I saw a video where the father recreated the problem with toys for his son. The kid only hesitated for a second, then moved one little guy next to other five, and rammed the toy train over all six. Makes sense. Smiley
I need that video.



1835. Post 50617060 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Febo on April 15, 2019, 03:53:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4

6:55

Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.

His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."

Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.

He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts. 
I don't think that debt will disappear and I don't think debt is inherently a problem. Out of control debt and bailouts at tax payers' expense are the issue. There is and always will be need and use for debt though.



1836. Post 50617176 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 15, 2019, 03:55:31 PM
Satoshi clearly knew and understood that because Bitcoin is open source and anyone can clone or fork Bitcoin, and anyone can create unlimited number of new coins at will, then the dominance of one form of digital open source money/Gold 2.0 would be decided in the court of public opinion. Not through censorship of Bitcoin's competitors.

So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).

And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.

I like your reasoned position.  Probably because I agree with it entirely.Smiley

Aire and Wright are taking a shot at being the new Rothschilds.  Aire is a gambler and Wright is a pathological liar.  For a while I almost began to wonder if one of them is the Antichrist.  They will not be the last to try.  This is a chance to run the world.  Thing is, the popularity contest, as I see it has an entrant that is not/can not be controlled by anyone and is going to win after it eviscerates everyone like CSW who comes after it.

One dark question I feel we face now is:  How much of a whale are either or both of these guys.  BTC whale that is.  Have they already done as much damage to BTC in their bid to pump BSV or will they do more?  The absolute NIGHTMARE scenario is CSW somehow got control over early keys.  But then... why no real proof?
If Hal was Satoshi and if CSW was sufficiently involved with him early on there could be a chance that the claim about some "trust fund" for the genesis key is true. And in that case CSW could potentially gain access to it. But even if that was the case then either the majority would assume that Hal was Satoshi and CSW somehow got access due to "being there at the right time" or nobody would care.

Even if God himself descended and told me that CSW was Satoshi (and not in some non-duality kind of way) I wouldn't give a shit at this point. I refuse to play with someone like CSW unless it's my last option to function in this world. And I doubt I'm the only one given the stunts he's pulled.

I'm agnostic enough to give Roger a pass if the majority decided to go BABC since he denounced CSW, but CSW is just hard pass. I wouldn't be surprised if he started sending people to the Gulag if he could and I absolutely refuse to contribute even on a Planck scale to the reincarnation of humanity's biggest evils - which with the potential of BTC is a very real possibility.



1837. Post 50617818 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 15, 2019, 05:04:35 PM
What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

Question: Would you prefer to prohibit any state actor from participating in Bitcoin?

Followup: If answer to above is 'yes', how do you square this with the mutually-exclusive attribute of 'permissionless'?
I differentiate between participation and taking over control, which is what was suggested during a Coingeek conference in which the blights of society were supposed to get sufficient tools to keep doing what they have been in a more efficient manner.
This could also be the issue on which CSW and Roger parted and to some extent why I don't have any hard feelings against him. CSW clearly cares about nothing worth caring about, unlike Roger (anti-establishment).

If Roger hadn't teamed up with CSW and Bitmain (phony hash war) I might've very well been persuaded to at least keep sensible portions of both chains in cold storage.



1838. Post 50624508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 15, 2019, 05:40:07 PM
What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

Question: Would you prefer to prohibit any state actor from participating in Bitcoin?

Followup: If answer to above is 'yes', how do you square this with the mutually-exclusive attribute of 'permissionless'?
I differentiate between participation and taking over control, which is what was suggested during a Coingeek conference in which the blights of society were supposed to get sufficient tools to keep doing what they have been in a more efficient manner.

You would need to provide more info if you expect me to know what you are talking about. All I have seen from CSW as public pronouncements on changes to the protocol have been to restrict any such protocol changes to be to 'unfucken' (not his term, actually Shadders', I believe) it back to parity with v0.1. Any tools sitting atop such a protocol are just that - not base layer. Accordingly, I don't understand what that has to do with SV. If any public pronouncement has even been made.

I note also that you have not answered the posited question(s).

Quote
If Roger hadn't teamed up with CSW and Bitmain (phony hash war)

Exactly what is a 'phony hash war'? As differentiated, I suppose, from a 'real hash war?
I don't care enough to dig out the exact Coingeek conference at which they specifically suggested that Bitcoin needs to "grow up" (from it's anti-establishment narrative) and get into bed with the FED and other institutions to succeed as strictly a means of p2p payment system as opposed to a solution to (the bigger portions of) governments and central banks being a detriment to humanity. I also don't feel like copy/pasting the countless other contradictions to Satoshi that have eluded CSW.

All I know is that I don't want to support someone of his character in any way. Based on what I've seen the only thing standing between him and becoming a dictator in the image of notorious figures of the past is the necessary infrastructure to facilitate his rise to power and given the power he certainly isn't of the type of character to allow people to criticize or oppose him.

Even if BSV was technologically superior, there is no excuse for supporting a character like CSW over forking BSV#2 to make sure that a person that is more likely than the majority of people to silence others won't ever get the power to do so.
And if you truly believe in the potential of Bitcoin then you're surely aware that a person with excessive control over Bitcoin, and thus the potential money of the future, would have potentially free reign. Lots of conditionals happening in convolution here, but an outcome that should be avoided at all costs regardless.


A phony hash war is what we've seen take place. If it [redirection of hash rate] was for strictly technological reasons they wouldn't have switched back to BTC when they realized they were burning too much money and simply shut off as much as necessary to stay green on their own chain. Hence, they are either in it for money or for power with a tilt towards the latter in the case of CSW.

Edit: I don't care if people act for money. That's fair game depending on the methods employed. CSW is very different from Roger and possibly Jihan though.



1839. Post 50624677 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: mindrust on April 15, 2019, 06:16:22 PM
What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

Question: Would you prefer to prohibit any state actor from participating in Bitcoin?

Followup: If answer to above is 'yes', how do you square this with the mutually-exclusive attribute of 'permissionless'?
I differentiate between participation and taking over control, which is what was suggested during a Coingeek conference in which the blights of society were supposed to get sufficient tools to keep doing what they have been in a more efficient manner.
This could also be the issue on which CSW and Roger parted and to some extent why I don't have any hard feelings against him. CSW clearly cares about nothing worth caring about, unlike Roger (anti-establishment).

If Roger hadn't teamed up with CSW and Bitmain (phony hash war) I might've very well been persuaded to at least keep sensible portions of both chains in cold storage.

Roger isn't much better than Craig. He is a fucking opportunist. (one of the most disgusting) He allied with Craig when his actions were benefiting his agenda and he didn't say a word against Craig till the last second before BcashSV and BcashABC were decoupled.

He used or tried to use Craig just like he tried to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin was good when it was benefiting his own agenda but it became super bad when the devs didn't act and do what he proposed.

How is he different than Craig?

Craig is following exactly the same route as Roger except he is too obvious about what he is doing. (lying) Roger is also a two faced sociopath who's going to say whatever lie to get what he wants. (less obvious, but still obvious)

Both of them are disgusting piece of shits but If I had to choose one, I would choose Craig just because he is a fucking clown and unlike him Roger has a slight chance to succeed, which is scary.

Fuck both of them in the end. Btw Bought more BTC today from $5.2k.  Cheesy
I can't read minds and Roger stated that he was fooled. This could very well be him covering his ass.

But unlike CSW, Roger is still openly against government and central banking. CSW is not. And if there's one thing we know about con-men like CSW it's that they are pretty good at fooling people for short periods of time. And that effect is amplified when a person feels like the world is out against them.

In short, I don't know if Roger is anti-BTC because of he truly believes that BABC is better or because he's strictly an opportunist. In CSW's case it's much more clear.

Or in other words, I'm certain that CSW is an evil little cunt. With Roger I am not certain, so I can't put him in the same boat as CSW. If the evidence changes I will quickly amend my opinion (for better or for worse).



1840. Post 50624693 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on April 15, 2019, 06:47:39 PM

This almost makes me want to upload my drivers license to shapesh... umm... well... not quite.

Wink
Does Shapeshift require KYC now? Doesn't that defeat its purpose? lol


Quote from: Torque on April 15, 2019, 07:05:43 PM
The required reply when anyone tries to tell you any of the following:

1. Bitcoin is going to crash to zero

2. BCH is the real Bitcoin

3. Craig Wright is the real Satoshi

4. X/Y/Z shitcoin will supersede Bitcoin

5. China bans Bitcoin

6. Governments will outlaw Bitcoin

7. Bitcoin mining is unsustainable and consumes too much energy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo
Damn, thanks for the trip down nostalgia lane.



1841. Post 50624740 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Febo on April 15, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4

6:55

Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.

His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."

Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.

He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts. 
I don't think that debt will disappear and I don't think debt is inherently a problem. Out of control debt and bailouts at tax payers' expense are the issue. There is and always will be need and use for debt though.

Who will loan something that will gain price in year fro like 10%. Or more?  I mean you will take small loans fro something that will bring you huge profit. But it will not be like there is today when they dont even want to sell you a car unless you take it on loan. Or when countries have for half year of production of debt. If not they looks stupid. Trust me this will stop.
If you think that Bitcoin will perpetually gain 10% per year you're mistaken. And for the time that it does there will be similar downswings. So taking and giving loans at the right times means profit for the party that played it better.
Never mind that people will help others for any number of reasons if they require money in the short term. There are also stablecoins to peg the loans to and there will always be people who hedge some risks in all sorts of stable assets.



1842. Post 50625243 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW.



"This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569



1843. Post 50625836 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

I think Ayre is trying to break ties with CSW. If he keeps calling CSW Satoshi as if it was fact and CSW then loses in court Ayre can then claim that he got conned and walk away unscathed.



1844. Post 50629226 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: fillippone on April 16, 2019, 12:24:06 PM
Player Scores 161 BTC Single Spin Jackpot in Cloudbet’s Bitcoin Casino

Tow humble considerations:
All gambling is borderline scam. The entertainment argument is very weak. Poker & co are not gambling.



1845. Post 50631270 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: MrFreeRoMan on April 16, 2019, 03:17:18 PM
What should be expected! Began responses to Bitcoin Cash
Japanese cryptocurrency exchange SBI Virtual Currencies is removing Bitcoin Cash (BCH) from its list of supported coins.
Because SBI and nChain have a tight relationship, some assert that SBI’s move is in retaliation to Binance’s decision.

https://coingeek.com/sbi-exchange-to-drop-bitcoin-cash-due-to-dwindling-market-cap/

EDIT Something else:
Jack C. Liu returns to partner with OKEx to launch a Bitcoin SV based exchange
https://medium.com/@liujackc/jack-c-liu-returns-to-partner-with-okex-to-launch-a-bitcoin-sv-based-exchange-c1341f2a6968
Pretty ironic if you consider that BSV money clearly went into BCash. So BSV is "dwindling" not BCash.



1846. Post 50713382 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 21, 2019, 09:21:12 PM

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?


hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.
If taxes were voluntary they would imply a government participating in the free market by offering services that the population decides how much it should be worth. Hence compatible with capitalism.

These services could also extend to contracts along the line of "if you receive social services for x amount of time you will pay p percent of your paycheck for y amount of time once you get a job". The money could then be used either for further funding, or if "too profitable" be paid back to people who "invested their taxes" in the service.

The rest would take care of itself by services being added, redacted and modified based on funding and changing landscape of social issues.

Could also use that to fund going to fucking Mars, longevity, curing random diseases or fixing any other type of problem that is unlikely to be profitable and that people would come up with.

Would also change the political debate from retarded pronouns to figuring out how to best allocate money and thus end partisan horseshit.



1847. Post 50723198 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Hueristic on April 22, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
...

The real question is, why do you like to convince the retarded people all day? Are you really that retarded to realise realize that it's useless to convince the retarded people?  Huh

The most Retarded thing here is Quoting the roach.

And spell checking isn't  necessary but it does show you at least put a modicum of effort into your post. FTFY
Good job.



1848. Post 50723435 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: encycrypto on April 22, 2019, 02:03:49 PM
...

The real question is, why do you like to convince the retarded people all day? Are you really that retarded to realise realize that it's useless to convince the retarded people?  Huh

The most Retarded thing here is Quoting the roach.

Good job.

For a bit of clarification, my post had no intentions of being in favour of r0ach.
For clarification, the 'good job' was directed at the ironic outcome of his post about spellchecking and effort.



1849. Post 50724005 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Hueristic on April 22, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
...

The real question is, why do you like to convince the retarded people all day? Are you really that retarded to realise realize that it's useless to convince the retarded people?  Huh

And spell checking isn't  necessary but it does show you at least put a modicum of effort into your post. FTFY

Or maybe you should put a modicum of effort into searching a bit before you criticise somebody? Realise and realize, both are OK:

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/realise-realize/

HAH, Good point, I didn't realise that! Cranky having withdrawals right now.
-1WO for me. Smiley


For a bit of clarification, my post had no intentions of being in favour of r0ach.

Yeah, but a vast majority of spammers pop up in here quoting the trolls and arguing with them for merit mining and it gets annoying.
I exclusively came to this forum to mine merit.

Unfortunately big miners are driving us small folks out of business and creating a merit vacuum by funneling all the merit to the top 1%.

The merit gap is widening too fast.

It is time for merit redistribution!

#AllPostsAreEqual



1850. Post 50724685 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

This video puts into perspective quite well why data usage is irrelevant in the big block argument. The only arguments against it that can be made are e.g. on the protocol side, which I know nothing about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12OSBJwogFc



1851. Post 50727275 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: Phil_S on April 22, 2019, 05:51:29 PM
Second attack on 5400?

Not going to succeed, I presume.
So would you say it is not an optimal time to 80x long?



1852. Post 50735820 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: hisslyness on April 22, 2019, 07:38:54 PM
Anyhow, I guess we keep coming back to the general idea that it will be fine in the future!.. The technology will be there to support Bigger Blocks and Massive Database (but in the future it will be considered small). We will have cheap 1000GBit connections to link everyone together and 80TB hard drives! Moore says so!

The same can be said for LN and Layer 2 solutions. The developers are working on a solutions for this and that. A different Layer 2 solution will be available soon and so forth.

But which would you bet on? Something that is developing and evolving right before our eyes or relying on Moore's Law?
Are you walking through life blindfolded? Internet connections and hard drives have been evolving right before our eyes long before Bitcoin was even a thing. People have been actively working on those problems 24/7 for decades.

Gigabit is already cheap in some places and only a tiny fraction of what is possible right now. The only reason our internet isn't faster is because there is no consumer grade application for it (you can stream 4k with multiple devices with a fraction of that), not because we don't have the infrastructure necessary.

Again, arguments against big blocks are not going to be found on the hardware side.



1853. Post 50735946 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 22, 2019, 11:09:50 PM
Quote
Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Crypto payment processing startup Moon announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension.
Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning

Interesting. I'd like to know more about what it means to "connect[ing] the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase".

a few years ago i ordered something from overstock.com as i think they were among the 1st retailer to accept btc (or at least the 1st retailer i would use). i dont recall exactly how i paid but i remember it was through something like bitpay or something. it displayed a qr code and btc addy with a timer, i copy/pasted the btc addy and paid from my core wallet on my desktop.

few days later i would up returning the item, and the refund went to my coinbase account. which i did not use to pay for the item, as i said it was paid with my core wallet.

they musta figured it out it was me from my shipping address maybe. i looked in my coinbase tx history just now  and all it says is refund for order xxxxx. no amount or other description.

gonna hunt through emails and such to see if i can find more info on how that went.

anyway maybe they will pull something like that..

---------------------------

ok found this in my email from mid 2017:

Quote
From: Coinbase [no-reply@coinbase.com]
To: xxxxxxxx

Overstock.com just sent you 0.xxxxx BTC (worth $xx.xx USD) using Coinbase.
Attached message:
InvoiceId: xxxxxxx, InvoicePaymentId: xxxxxx, refundAmount: USD xx.xx

EDIT: and just found the payment in my desktop core wallet labeled "to overstock for xxx" and the amount matched with a tx time about a week earlier.

so how did they match that up..

That seems frightening.
Did you figure this out?

I was under the impression that BitPay asked for an address when you file for a refund.

Any chance you just gave them your Coinbase address over your wallet?



1854. Post 50736282 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on April 23, 2019, 09:14:16 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.

You are assuming a lot, aren't you?

You are assuming that the trust story is actually true, and if it were true, then whoever has the keys can do whatever the fuck they want with the coins, including dumping them all.

We don't need to DAO hardfork in bitcoin.  This is not ethereum, and the mere fact that some goofball like craig might gain access to such coins should NOT worry anyone.

It's a hypothetical based on their claims, would it be better if it was reworded to: what if two billionairs are not completely insane and actually have some logic to their madness? I'm having a hard time explaining their actions and timing, so dismissing it off to their stupidity feels like an easy way out. To me that's the biggest risk holding BTC back right now, everything else seems to be going as planned. Trusts cannot do anything with assets they hold but beneficiary can do whatever the fuck they want, and in the wrong hands BTC1MM can do a lot of damage. But as i answered my own question, if that has any merit to being true their first step would be proving that he's Satoshi in the eyes of the government. And if that were to actually happen we would most certainly fork to original and Satoshi's frozen stash chains the next day and then market would assign risks appropriately.

Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence

Occum's Razor says the simplest explanation that Craig is lying about the trust, is the most likely explanation.


That doesn't explain why he would be lying.

It's not entirely implausible that real Satoshi is dead or locked up and CSW somehow weaseled himself into a position where either the public or an authority calling him Satoshi would grant him access to a trust.


Either way, time will tell what is going on. One way or another.



1855. Post 50753652 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Phil_S on April 23, 2019, 07:13:41 PM
It was a rhetorical question. Florida police wouldn't care.

Example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49911915#msg49911915

Maybe not the police, but certainly the IRS/Fed if you told them that you're a sovereign seastead and don't want them to steal your money.



1856. Post 50753743 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: lightcar on April 23, 2019, 09:42:57 PM
We here to make money, not here for nerd talk.
Speak for yourself or fuck off.



1857. Post 50755676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: ivomm on April 24, 2019, 03:22:18 PM
I'll try to summarize the last 4 months. The first important point was of course the recovery jump from $3100K (15 Dec 2018) to $4000 (Bitstamp prices everywhere). This suggested that the new bottom $3100 is either the final or it would be tested again. The fear of the second posssibility led to the gradual decline until 7 Feb 2019, which was the next even more important turning point. Then we had the higher low of $3350 and a jump to $3700. At this point the first possibility that we found the final bottom seemed more probable for the traders, and soon followed another breakout to $4100. After that another drop to $3700 area. But then followed what was the most important period IMO. From 7 Feb until 1 April the price was gradually increasing showing no sings of testing the bottom. Each time the price dropped in a matter of minutes it recovered again and again. This indicator clearly showed that way more people were waiting with fiat to buy at any small dip. Finally the $3800 and $4200 resistances fell and with several big and smaller jumps we got to $5600 (1-2 April 20% short squeeze was epic!).

Now, what can we expect? It seems quite probable that in the coming days or 2-3 weeks we are going to reclaim the old support at $6-6.4K.  The other less probable case for the next month  is to have a gradual declining price to $5K or in the worst scenario to $3.8K. It all depends on the buying strenght. I think that the sings of the recent quick recoveries show that the buying potential is much bigger than in 2018. This potential is enough to bring us back to $20K and beyond. The only problem is the psychological fear that the price above $10K is too high. You know, the average Joe is thinking: $10K is too late for me. See ripple it is only $0.30 now. All of my ignorant friends are thinking in this way.  Grin Cheesy Grin They don't know about market cap or the real value of the Bitcoin  Huh Roll Eyes Fortunately, FOMO will overcome fear and after some battle we will see soon 5 digit prices! And when the halving comes, nobody will know what the real price should be. It will be worldwide news to have 20-30% jumps like 80-100K$ in 1 day. I can't wait to see that Smiley
Holy fuck, we dropped 99,99871% on December 15? Maybe I should go see a doctor.



1858. Post 50759516 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: vroom on April 24, 2019, 06:37:47 PM
Altcoins are droping even more than bitcoin and bitcoin dominance is rising. In my unprofessional opinion we will see money flowing back to bitcoin soon. The rocket is just fueling up.
Swings aside, during the bull market altcoins gain dominance over Bitcoin. This effect can be expected to increase over the years as equity becomes tokenized.



1859. Post 50759576 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 24, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
The rise of "slashies" (people with multiple part time jobs).
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47984295

I was one a couple of years back.
It's BS that most people like it. Basically, it is a rat race which in US is exacerbated by the absence of benefits (so you have to pay extra for them).
A full time job and a hobby (even involved hobby) is better, IMHO.
I wonder how crypto/btc will fit into this trend.

PS man city scores...foooook!

Agreed the casualisation of the workforce is corrosive to society. How is anyone supposed to raise a family if they have 5 jobs?   It’s a shit way to live.
By not having a family if they failed to plan for and luck into sufficient wealth. Having kids without being able to support them is corrosive to society, especially if you start complaining on an industrial scale about how unfair the world is for not making up for your poor life choices.



1860. Post 50759624 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 24, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
Keep in mind this is part time shift work, not full time permanent.

Could you live on 10 hours of work per week at minimum wage?   They need 5 jobs to get 40 - 50 hours work a week.

Yes, I could. In fact, I lived for half of that for years and I even managed to build significant wealth. (5x12x5x4 = 1200 per month, 200 more than I had for a long time and still half of what you propose.)

Anyone who works full-time at minimum wage and fails to retire as at least a millionaire only has themselves to blame.


Heck, you could cut that into half again and I'd still manage to survive while picking up all the skills necessary to land a 6 figure job within 1-3 years.



Edit: I read per day not per week. Thankfully my last point still fits. With a $12 minimum wage and 10 hours of work per week I would manage to survive on ONE job while picking up all the skills necessary for a 6 figure job within 1-3 years. With two jobs I'd already be building wealth (quite substantially with crypto and still more than most people without).



1861. Post 50759706 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 24, 2019, 09:15:53 PM
Minimum wage in Kentucky is $7.25 per hour

10 hours per week is $72.50

4.33 weeks in a month

$72.50 x 4.33 = $313 per month

Not sure how you save $1,200 per month on a gross income of $313 per month
Edited my post as I read 10h per day instead of per week. Either way, two of those jobs are more than enough for me to live on while educating myself enough to score an internship.

Edit: That also changes the time-line of my initial post. With full-time work I'd need up to three years to get up to speed from scratch. With part-time work I could easily land an internship within a year. Two if I take it easy. Three if I wanted to skip the internship and jump straight into a junior position without carrying coffee around for minimum wage.



1862. Post 50760094 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 24, 2019, 09:23:10 PM
You are a smart, college educated guy

Half the population has an IQ less than 100
Luckily coding is extremely easy for most of the jobs. If you can say what your program should do out loud you're already half way there. There is tons of work for low level programmers and people just throw money at them.

Just because it uses fancy terms like ML or AI doesn't mean that you're not just regurgitating the same methods over and over in the majority of jobs.

Not everybody needs to be a researcher designing or optimizing algorithms.


Even if you take some sub 100 IQ person. As long as they are capable of language as well as repeating steps somebody else has already taken they will be able to pick up the skills required for low level programming jobs. They really aren't much different from stacking blocks or chopping wood.

Five years would already be far more than anyone could reasonably need when working part-time, but even if you round up to ten years that still leaves at least a few decades of high earnings for most people. But why bother learning something for 10 years if you don't know if it will pay off right? Wrong. And that's the problem.


There are countless other jobs that people can learn in similar amounts of time too. Most people just don't want to put in the effort needed once they are off work and I can totally get that. But that's everybody's choice and not something that the rest of us should be forced to compensate for.



And by the way, I am college educated because I chose that path. I also made sure that I chose a subject that was guaranteed to provide high income if I put in sufficient effort, even though I would have much preferred studying something financially worthless but more interesting. And that's ignoring the overwhelming existential dread from even choosing a course coming from a dirt-poor first generation migrant family without any academics.

Even before I entered university I thought it would be out of my reach and the first lectures in Mathematics I attended were so far and beyond me that I was 100% certain that I would not make it to the end of the first year, never mind the end of my degree.

I could have also gone off to some apprenticeship or low-skill work right after school like a solid 99% of my childhood peers. They are literally so disconnected from reality that they wouldn't even believe that I was sent to a global elite university with a full scholarship (and not in the "wow good for you" kind of way, they literally called my parents liars when they told them after being asked about my picture on Facebook).

Poor people on average clearly don't understand that they can change their own fate and outright reject anyone who against all the odds demonstrates the possibility. All of us who made it just "got lucky", somehow cheated others out of their money or are simply lying.

There's little that is more disgusting than people who are too afraid or lazy to even try moving forward berating others and trying to claim moral high ground while complaining about the obvious results of their life choices. If that was all then I would just shrug it off. But in reality it is precisely because of those degenerates that we have such high taxes and literally nothing to show for in return. And the fact that I have to either circumvent income tax entirely or be forced to pay for idiots with a complete and utter disregard for foresight is appalling.

But yeah, those poor people that chose to fuck around throughout their life. Let's all pity them and exacerbate the issue instead of very clearly pointing out their poor choices and making sure that others after them think twice about what they do with their lives.



Credit to all those who choose a simple lifestyle without shitting on those that don't.



1863. Post 50760116 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Biodom on April 24, 2019, 09:45:24 PM
I bought AAPL...sold way too early
I bought GOOG..sold way too early
I bought TSLA...sold way too early

did not sell btc yet...so there is a chanceTM


Another story it tells is that the "satoshi" that was posting here was just a SINGLE individual which is also consistent with his content, style, syntax and punctuation. It also shows that he had consistent/regular sleeping times. Probably a family man with a regular job.

haha...an amusing alternative theory...Satoshi is/was Dr. Jekyll and current personality is Mr Hyde.
Sidenote: i don't really believe in this theory, but split personalities do happen.
Tesla didn't even take off yet, or did they start rolling out those cars already?



1864. Post 50760141 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 24, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
When we talk about the limitations of the Lightning Network - here are some instructions for accessing an early website.


Is my memory broken or did we actually have to type out http://www. back in the day? I don't miss the old internet.



1865. Post 50760560 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 24, 2019, 10:32:43 PM
Bitcoin has no CEO.
It has no fancy offices.
It has no marketing department.
It raised $0 from venture capitalist.

Yet, it is worth $100 billion in just 10 years.

Bitcoin is an example of why product-market fit is the only thing that ultimately matters.

https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1121179745251577856?s=21
Love the avatar and solidarity, but I keep thinking you're someone else.


Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 24, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
'product-market fit' - kill me now

https://u.today/eth-based-tokenized-bonds-for-112-mln-issued-on-blockchain-by-societe-generale-moodys-greenlights
am getting too old for this shit Grin
nou.today



1866. Post 50760974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: yefi on April 24, 2019, 10:49:03 PM
I've seen people struggle to use a photocopier or a fax and you're telling us they can become programmers? I'd like to see it.

Also, what about the structured knowledge of society that leads you down this or any other lucrative path in the first place? How would a dummy know how to judge these things? Last time I checked they were drinking industrial bleach as an elixir!
I'm sure everybody in this thread has seen people struggle with even dumber shit. For some reason some people either don't have the right mindset to identify solutions to problems by themselves or they are inherently incapable of doing so.

However, you can certainly teach those people how to use a photocopier or a fax and basic programming is no more difficult while also in high demand.

People who drink bleach as an elixir have already solved all their problems. The remainder can use the internet, which is what I did. I have spent years scavenging the internet for dozens upon dozens of different paths. There's no wizardry going on here, literally pick a bunch of acceptable categories and a bunch of desirable ones then go from there.


You can't tell me that people are too stupid to Google "What jobs Y that involve X are there and what are the salaries?" and then follow up with "What paths to Y are there?". And I also don't believe that people who immediately fold are inherently incapable of following instructions until they commit them to memory.



Quote from: Hueristic on April 24, 2019, 11:22:17 PM
You are a smart, college educated guy

Half the population has an IQ less than 100

You know I've noticed the lower the IQ the more preoccupied they are with getting laid. I have speculated that that is a programmed evolutionary trait. I have no clue if I am correct and have never researched it, just made note of it as being Odd.
Perhaps if you're less intelligent you need to win by quantity over quality. Which seems to be in line with the data. The lowest IQ people are those with the most children. Ironically having more children than you can support not only makes survival harder, but also actively hinders education.



1867. Post 50761087 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 24, 2019, 11:40:49 PM
I've seen people struggle to use a photocopier or a fax and you're telling us they can become programmers? I'd like to see it.

Also, what about the structured knowledge of society that leads you down this or any other lucrative path in the first place? How would a dummy know how to judge these things? Last time I checked they were drinking industrial bleach as an elixir!
I'm sure everybody in this thread has seen people struggle with even dumber shit. For some reason some people either don't have the right mindset to identify solutions to problems by themselves or they are inherently incapable of doing so.

However, you can certainly teach those people how to use a photocopier or a fax and basic programming is no more difficult while also in high demand.

People who drink bleach as an elixir have already solved all their problems. The remainder can use the internet, which is what I did. I have spent years scavenging the internet for dozens upon dozens of different paths. There's no wizardry going on here, literally pick a bunch of acceptable categories and a bunch of desirable ones then go from there.


You can't tell me that people are too stupid to Google "What jobs Y that involve X are there and what are the salaries?" and then follow up with "What paths to Y are there?". And I also don't believe that people who immediately fold are inherently incapable of following instructions until they commit them to memory.



You are a smart, college educated guy

Half the population has an IQ less than 100

You know I've noticed the lower the IQ the more preoccupied they are with getting laid. I have speculated that that is a programmed evolutionary trait. I have no clue if I am correct and have never researched it, just made note of it as being Odd.
Perhaps if you're less intelligent you need to win by quantity over quality. Which seems to be in line with the data. The lowest IQ people are those with the most children. Ironically having more children than you can support not only makes survival harder, but also actively hinders education.

If there was an additional tax for each children you have instead of social benefits maybe they would have a second thought... or maybe not Sad
Haven't really thought it through, but I'd certainly prefer that over uncapped benefits per child. A policy that is heavily exploited by certain groups of people and partially responsible for the anti-refugee rhetoric.

There was one family with two underage wives on public television proudly stating that they have no intention of ever working. All while receiving social welfare for each wive and child support for each kid. Of course people who paid 60% taxes their entire life and live around the poverty line will get pissed off at that, and rightfully so.



1868. Post 50761152 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: bitserve on April 24, 2019, 11:51:58 PM
Haven't really thought it through, but I'd certainly prefer that over uncapped benefits per child. A policy that is heavily exploited by certain groups of people and partially responsible for the anti-refugee rhetoric.

There was one family with two underage wives on public television proudly stating that they have no intention of ever working. All while receiving social welfare for each wive and child support for each kid. Of course people who paid 60% taxes their entire life and live around the poverty line will get pissed off at that, and rightfully so.

Yes. I may be sounding insensitive or non empathic... but it is when I think about those kind of people when I become that way. Too many groups of people FULLY AND COMPLETELY living off the rest, without working, and spending more than I do. It's completely crazy. Sometimes I think maybe I should become one of those. It really upsets me.
That family seemed genuinely nice although in that naive and incapable of grasping the consequences of their actions kind of way.


But they should not be supported and they are precisely why I am dead against any social welfare that isn't an unconditional UBI.

That much I can tolerate to level the playing field and disarm literally everybody who dares complain about wealth inequality. People go from 0 to Forbes 100 all the time and with a UBI nobody could even attempt to make a case for "exploitation" or any other types of "qq unfair".

But financially incentivizing the degeneration of humanity is just plain wrong. There's a reason why IQs in the West have been in decline. It's precisely because all responsibility is delegated to figures of authority with misaligned incentives.



1869. Post 50761273 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 25, 2019, 12:08:02 AM

That's a pretty odd use of the term 'per capita'. Which, of course, is defined as 'per each person'. How can we have 3.54 Americans killed for every American that visits Pakistan?
"Achieved" head count per murderer?



1870. Post 50770504 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 25, 2019, 04:16:21 PM

blackle.com used to be a good solution. Looks, however, that they have not implemented https tho.
Google x Brave?



1871. Post 50771169 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 25, 2019, 04:44:30 PM

blackle.com used to be a good solution. Looks, however, that they have not implemented https tho.
Google x Brave?
I have started using brave but I figured it gains enough marketshare Google will find another way to track. They probably are already.
The good old rat race. I'm sure Brave or some other company will be able to screw Google out of their new way to track when time comes. The only way Google can remain relevant in the long-term is by making ads and tracking opt-in and compensated.



1872. Post 50771226 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: VB1001 on April 25, 2019, 04:55:48 PM

https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1121394012362104832

A small mess with KYC if you want to send the rewards. Wink
First thing I found was that KYC is required for publishers and content creators, e.g. those that get tipped by Brave users. Using KYC for that is a no brainer, otherwise anybody can claim anyone's tips.



Edit: Looks like anyone who wants to withdraw BAT out of the Brave ecosystem needs to KYC for now due to AML horseshit. They hinted at the possibility of avoiding this issue by future decentralized custodial services.


https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9qgt4k/will_brave_ads_have_kyc_to_claim_tokens/e89k4oz/



1873. Post 50772648 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Thinking about it, the social welfare state, at the very least in its current form, is partially responsible for the steep increase in wealth inequality.

Too bad the irony is likely lost on those who are responsible and hit the hardest.



1874. Post 50774716 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 25, 2019, 09:06:32 PM
They both suck. Leave it for a bit now, like a week. Admin knows full well you want it. We can bump it.
imho.
anyone else?

dammit, I know I don't bump it myself to much Wink

Got LFC and you guys in my corner Grin

But I was just trying to work on that haiku sh*t, F*ck I stay F***ing bad @it !
Haikus didn't even cross my mind since they were related to the MS thread. Needless to say, I was very confused about both until reading your post.

Agree with V8 though, just wait for a week or so. I'd be surprised if you didn't get accepted.


Quote from: El duderino_ on April 25, 2019, 09:26:25 PM
Haiku's difficult!
Bitcoin unpredictable.
When time for HODLsleep?
Do you say HODL as one syllable instead of HO-DL?



1875. Post 50774759 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: podyx on April 25, 2019, 10:11:32 PM
-$500 in 15 minutes

What's happening? Huh
The expected? I'm surprised it didn't go a little higher and then dropped from there, but still. You can't stay above the slow EMAs forever and we've been above 25 and 99 on the daily since early February and late March respectively.



1876. Post 50774800 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 25, 2019, 09:28:14 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bitfinex-used-tether-reserves-to-mask-missing-850-million-probe-finds-11556227031

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bitfinex-used-tether-reserves-to-mask-missing-850-million-probe-finds-11556227031?mod=rsswn

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=vIexA1b0spKOnK_PLUS_ZUGTJ3A==&system=prod
TIL ?mod=rsswn

Thank you.



1877. Post 50774857 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2019, 10:19:44 PM
It's well worth reading the doc. It sounds like a truly bizarre situation.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=vIexA1b0spKOnK_PLUS_ZUGTJ3A==&system=prod

'Documents provided to OAG demonstrate that by mid-20 18. Bifinex was having extreme difficulty honoring its clients' requests to withdraw their money from the trading platform because Crypto Capital which held all or almost all of Bitfinex·s funds refused to process customer withdrawal requests and refused or was unable to return any funds to Bitfinex.'

It looks like they entrusted everything and were totally beholden to some Panamanian nobodies and were reduced to pleading for their own money from them. How the did BFX allow themselves to get into a situation like that?

Greed or incompetence?

Are there any properly backed and transparent stablecoins that can be used without worrying?


Quote from: El duderino_ on April 25, 2019, 10:20:38 PM
Damn all the smooth and steady building....... down so fast, just was putting on a movie, old one that I don’t remember if I have seen it.... “in the line of fire”

= very appropriate right now  Shocked
We are still up 25% since the beginning of April. Tongue



1878. Post 50774863 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 25, 2019, 10:23:43 PM

18. LFC still in for title race dispute Man U didn't won Sad
19. Mic's MS application still pending, and missing a few regs/OG's Roll Eyes
It hurts, really it does. I hope some drama in favor of LFC.

Keep going 🙂

EDIT:
I am guessing you are still not a merit source?

Why do the smileys that you post look so different? Is Bitcointalk racist?



1879. Post 50775122 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Pamoldar on April 25, 2019, 10:32:56 PM


The smileys that we use are bitcointalk forum's own GIFs. The smileys used by Pamoldar are not GIFs (or images); they're made up of text.

For example:

😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻

This is pure text - no image.

Correct.

You can format them like you do with the text.
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
😆 😎 😵 😗 😈 🐻 💓 🌼 🎁 🎂 📱💻
Damn. I was aware of Japanese face letters, but actual text emojis are new to me.


Quote from: toknormal on April 25, 2019, 10:28:42 PM

Are there any properly backed and transparent stablecoins that can be used without worrying?

Bitshares BitAssets is the only one with any track record. It's properly trustless and blockchain native. Designed for purpose.


Can anyone confirm/deny/extrapolate? BitShares seem to be rather low volume so would hope for other pairs as well.



1880. Post 50775669 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 25, 2019, 11:25:44 PM
Haven't done ecstasy since I was about 21. I'm too old for that shit now, the come downs are horrendous.

I've done MDMA 4 times in my life, spaced months and years apart. Hadn't lost the "magic" yet last time I tried, over 4 years ago. Waiting for the right occasion to roll again.

All in all, I'd recommend having at least one taste to anyone with an open mind who hasn't ever tried. Do the right stuff (Good Golly Miss Molly), do it at the right time, and do it with the right people. Just preload a bit and never mind the blues.
We have a yearly tradition where we usually extend two to three times. Never lost its magic in over five years.

When we started the tradition I took more than the years afterwards which that was pretty dreadful and fucked me for two weeks (bit over half a gram per person split into multiple doses - can not recommend).

With 150/75/75/75 the come-down is just fatigue but no bad mood and merely a couple days of hang-over.

With 150/75/75 just sleepiness during the come-down with nothing whatsoever the day after and anything under 150~200/75~100 doesn't even have a come-down for me.

Once a year for some 5 years with no loss of magic or depressive symptoms of any kind, so anything less than that should be generally safe without "loss of magic".



No such thing as too old, but I strongly agree with the notion that you should find "the right occasion" and the right people and environment for it.


For reference, I've never taken it in a club or any of the sort. Always either while taking a walk outside in nature or while sitting around at home with close friends. Not much movement or any dancing, so generally less stressful on the body, much less to no dehydration and easier to stay hydrated.
That could possibly take the edge off of the comedown, don't have any comparison. But I've literally never had a crash except for that one night where I went full retard to test the limits.


I also recommend not taking pills since it's impossible to dose them accurately unless you've pressed them yourself, which nobody does. They're also often spiked with amphetamines and other garbage that makes comedowns much worse in general, regardless of circumstance.

Stay safe.



Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2019, 11:28:16 PM
I've done MDMA 4 times in my life, spaced months and years apart. Hadn't lost the "magic" yet last time I tried, over 4 years ago. Waiting for the right occasion to roll again. All in all, I'd recommend having at least one taste to anyone with an open mind who hasn't ever tried. Do the right stuff (Good Golly Miss Molly), do it at the right time, and do it with the right people. Just preload a bit and never mind the blues.

Drugs don't work on me in general.

One Glastonbury the old crusties I was with got increasingly irate at my total indifference. I did five times more MDMA than anyone else to cheer them up and then carried on reading my book while they ground their jaws to dust and their eyes swivelled so far into the back of their heads they never popped back.
Smoking or drinking strongly dampens the effects of MDMA. Pills also often contain all sorts of random crap, so unless you had crystals I'd give it another shot. Also double check your dosage for your specific weight. Heavy people need more MDMA, something that you don't have to consider with most drugs whatsoever.



1881. Post 50775693 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: gentlemand on April 26, 2019, 12:02:09 AM
Smoking or drinking strongly dampens the effects of MDMA. Pills also often contain all sorts of random crap, so unless you had crystals I'd give it another shot. Also double check your dosage for your specific weight. Heavy people need more MDMA, something that you don't have to consider with most drugs whatsoever.

It was the purest crystalline 'shit' imaginable. Crusties always have the good stuff, very most especially at Glasto. Everyone else went fucking batty on it.

I am rather substantial but necked enough to get a blue whale amorous.
If you're on medication that could also stop some substances from working entirely or even have dangerous contraindications so always triple check beforehand.

Have you tried psychedelics? I can see MDMA leaving you indifferent depending on the circumstances, but with psychedelics I'd be hard pressed to believe that they wouldn't be profoundly notable even if they'd leave you fully functional on lower doses.



1882. Post 50775729 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 26, 2019, 12:07:54 AM
If they were grinding their teeth that wasn't the right stuff.
If they were grinding their teeth it certainly was the right stuff. MDMA does that in higher doses (200mg range).


Quote from: gentlemand on April 26, 2019, 12:08:21 AM
Have you tried psychedelics? I can see MDMA leaving you indifferent depending on the circumstances, but with psychedelics I'd be hard pressed to believe that they wouldn't be profoundly notable even if they'd leave you fully functional on lower doses.

Nope. Never will.

I've known a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. I don't think it should be as readily eulogised as it is by all and sundry after staring into a few pairs of eyes that were basically rendered empty by them.
Sorry to hear that, especially if they were close.

Do you know under what circumstances they went off on their trip?

So far all such cases that I've found were of people who took it in very sub-optimal environments, mixed it with other drugs, or were already predisposed to problems. Psychedelics are certainly no joke and I would never take them without due consideration.
But if you're in a stable mindset and do proper research and preparation I don't see how it could go wrong - hence the question. I'm trying to find any evidence that it could go bad despite due diligence, which seems impossible to me so far.


Quote from: d_eddie on April 26, 2019, 12:12:13 AM
Shit happens, but some folks are just begging for it. I'm sure a normal dose of, say, L, couldn't do that to a normal guy.
This is what all the evidence suggests to me so far as well.

I spent years researching all sorts of reports, papers and stories from all sides of the camp before even trying a tiny dose of cubensis for the first time. Went to absurd places numerous times afterwards without any issues whatsoever.



1883. Post 50775776 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: gentlemand on April 26, 2019, 12:18:22 AM
Do you know under what circumstances they went off on their trip?

One guy got a teat pipette full of it emptied into his eye, funnily enough at Glastonbury. He went from being a clever clogs sporting type to spending most of his days sitting in his room staring into space.

I think the others were squat party burn outs in general so they may have been heading for it anyway, but it certainly wouldn't have helped.
Sounds pretty much just as expected then.

I still haven't found a single case where responsible use resulted in anything other than positive experiences. You're basically concluding that alcohol is unsafe because somebody chugged bottles of scotch and sustained permanent braindamage.



1884. Post 50775980 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 26, 2019, 01:08:41 AM
The price of Bitcoin should be skyrocketing on BFX as punters move their cash out.  So why isn’t it?
So we can keep accumulating.



1885. Post 50776439 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: lightfoot on April 26, 2019, 01:44:35 AM
Shit happens, but some folks are just begging for it. I'm sure a normal dose of, say, L, couldn't do that to a normal guy.
Depends. Most drugs affect the application layer of what makes you.... you. They make small changes that go away when rebooted. Pot and alcohol fall in this category.

A few affect the operating system that the thing called "you" runs on. They make more substantive changes in how you act and change a number of things that make you you. Good opiates fall in this category.

LSD and such twiddle around with your firmware or in some cases your microcode. They can change who you *are*, and can rewrite the thing your mental operating system runs on. Use with care.
I don't know anything about opiates (don't care for addictive substances or anything that you could die from), but what LSD does is create new neurons as well as new connections between neurons (which is why some experience synesthesia under the influence).
It's pretty much what happens when you learn new things and also why it's so powerful in treating depression by breaking up bad habits (or thought patterns) through the creation of new ones.

This can go out of control if you take retarded amounts in retarded environments and situations, but responsibly (low dose, no mental issues, physically and mentally healthy, not on medication, no combination with other drugs etc.) this isn't just harmless but can also be a very useful tool.

One time I used small doses to study and the results were pretty remarkable. You can go much deeper than you ever could hope to in a sober state, although it's very easy to "overdose" in the sense that you'd be too busy staring at random stuff and going off on tangents instead of focusing on your task.





Speaking of dips, eating a snack just made me extremely hungry. Thanks body.



Holy fucking volatility Jesus.



1886. Post 50787842 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: realr0ach on April 26, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
I for one welcome our New Dark Age overlords.

I welcome $10k gold, $500 silver, and $3-10 an oz copper.
Are you planning on becoming the "uncontacted native tribe" of the future?



1887. Post 50801237 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 27, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
^let's hope

meanwhile
gosh a girl. what do we do Huh
The same thing we do every night.



1888. Post 50801389 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: vapourminer on April 27, 2019, 09:28:22 PM
The same thing we do every night.

shitpost?
We try to take over the world.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 27, 2019, 09:20:23 PM
ok thanks
i put her on ignore
Nice



1889. Post 50802807 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: realr0ach on April 28, 2019, 12:24:38 AM
You don't have those kinds of options with traditional physical assets like fiat or PMs...  Even having $10 million in cash would not be easy to move around, like it is with bitcoin.  A billion dollars on bitcoin could be stored and managed a whole hell-of-a lot easier than the same value in cash or Pms.

You demonstrate a complete failure of economics 101 understanding.  It's not possible for something to qualify as "money" if it doesn't even qualify as a commodity first.  Nobody refers to video games on Steam as a "commodity" because it's blatantly obvious it's a state-run racket/scam called intellectual property and entirely based on artificial scarcity.  

Bitcoin is no different - another artificial scarcity scam/racket.  The hallmark trait of all currencies is artificial scarcity, while actual money is required to be physical commodity in the real world and not an artificial scarcity racket.  So, no, you are not "storing" $10 million of anything in bitcoin because it's not possible to store value in something completely imaginary based on artificial scarcity.  It's a currency and not money, and on a long enough timeline the value of a currency always goes to zero.  

All you're holding is a temporary pump and dump grenade or financial scam that you're attempting to pass off onto someone else before it explodes, not "storing value".  You need a physical commodity that doesn't expire to do that.

While your rationale works well for video games on Steam it does not hold for Bitcoin. While true that the scarcity is artificial by virtue of being programmed in it's not comparable to video games on Steam which can be sold without any limitations.

As soon as some malicious actor tried to remove scarcity by increasing the amounts of Bitcoins we'd simple tell them to fork off by forking off ourselves.


You could make an argument that this would be a democratic process and that the majority of humans is too fucking retarded to realize when they're being manipulated into believing that increasing the amount of coins is a non-issue. But that would still result in two chains, one with the idiots and one with the rest.

Now another argument that you could attempt would be to state that the scarcity was broken through the fork. But as we have already seen quite clearly forks only have a fraction of the original value and the more forks there are the less valuable each fork will be with a quick convergence towards value for erroneous forks. Hence irrelevant for both the Economy as a whole as well as the 21m Bitcoin chain.



1890. Post 50803653 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 01:09:50 AM
The scarcity of bitcoin is not artificial you dimwit.  Stop spreading misinformation.
The entire Bitcoin protocol is a human creation and hence artificial. That includes everything with in it, such as the limited supply and hence scarcity of Bitcoins.



Code:
artificial
/ɑːtɪˈfɪʃ(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: artificial

    1.
    made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, especially as a copy of something natural.
    "her skin glowed in the artificial light"



1891. Post 50803864 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 03:16:46 AM
O.k. Technically, you are correct, yet we are not talking about technical correctness, we are talking about real world application.

Accordingly, try to change the 21 million bitcoin versus trying to figure out the extent to which the gold supply is scarce or not manipulated by paper inflation?  Which one is more scarce in real application and what the fuck problem has bitcoin attempted to solve?  

With bitcoin, we are talking practical application and a programmed and consensual scarcity, not some pie in the sky theory about what could or might happen in some hypothetical (not likely to happen scenario).  And, that is part of the reason why, currently, bitcoin has the strongest and hardest money that has ever been created  (until proven otherwise).
You've stated that Bitcoin's scarcity is not artificial which is strictly false.

Bitcoin's scarcity is artificial, period. No technicalities, no real world application, no anything. It is de facto and unequivocally artificial.

I'd like to ask you to stop degenerating our language.

It's bad enough that liberalism is functionally equivalent to fascism these days and that a progressive is acting in regressive ways. If terms are defined in a dictionary stick to the definition. Otherwise all hell breaks lose and fascists start thinking they're fighting for the greater good.


As far as the scarcity argument goes, it doesn't even exist. One is limited in supply, the other is not.



1892. Post 50804013 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: realr0ach on April 28, 2019, 03:58:14 AM
Scarcity vs artificial scarcity be damned, JayJuanGee is not even correct that bitcoin has scarcity in the first place.  It's technically no real difference from the federal reserve.  They state a 2% inflation rate targeting, but political forces can obviously push it higher or lower.  Bitcoin's inflation target is...a predefined slope, but the exact same political powers can change that just like the fed.  

Transaction validators in shitcoins are always designed to centralize because it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency, so they have NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM and are subject to the exact same political power vacuum of central banks with govts just exerting force over the 1-10 megaminer warehouses to apply AML/KYC, inflation, and whatever else.  Anyone who's not an idiot in the field of shitcoins knows that POW chains are far less secure the lower the fixed block reward subsidy becomes and that they might not even be viable at all without inflation.  

If it doesn't work out because of lack of subsidy, before bitcoin dies off completely, they would obviously either add inflation or fork to proof of stake - a bogus, closed entropy system that doesn't even pretend to be decentralized like how bitcoin pretends designed to centralize PoW is.
Interesting that you ignored my earlier response and then proceeded to make the same false claims regarding Bitcoin's scarcity all over again. It is very different from the federal reserve.



1893. Post 50804288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 04:32:16 AM
O.k. Technically, you are correct, yet we are not talking about technical correctness, we are talking about real world application.

Accordingly, try to change the 21 million bitcoin versus trying to figure out the extent to which the gold supply is scarce or not manipulated by paper inflation?  Which one is more scarce in real application and what the fuck problem has bitcoin attempted to solve?  

With bitcoin, we are talking practical application and a programmed and consensual scarcity, not some pie in the sky theory about what could or might happen in some hypothetical (not likely to happen scenario).  And, that is part of the reason why, currently, bitcoin has the strongest and hardest money that has ever been created  (until proven otherwise).
You've stated that Bitcoin's scarcity is not artificial which is strictly false.

Who gives a ratt's ass about your technical points.  It doesn't matter to the points being made.


Bitcoin's scarcity is artificial, period. No technicalities, no real world application, no anything. It is de facto and unequivocally artificial.

I'd like to ask you to stop degenerating our language.

You can ask me all that you like.  You ar the one confusing the topic, with bullshit technicals that don't matter to the points bing made.


It's bad enough that liberalism is functionally equivalent to fascism these days and that a progressive is acting in regressive ways. If terms are defined in a dictionary stick to the definition. Otherwise all hell breaks lose and fascists start thinking they're fighting for the greater good.

NO there is no problem.  You are making a problem out of nothing.

This isn't technical. Are you literally fucking retarded or do you genuinely think that you can use random words and pretend that they mean whatever you want them to?



Quote
As far as the scarcity argument goes, it doesn't even exist. One is limited in supply, the other is not.
One of the significant reasons that bitcoin is valuable remains its scarcity, and no one gives a ratt's ass if it could technically be changed through consensus, because it is not going to happen, at least not in the foreseeable future, not in any practical way, and such a change that is theoretically possible is not relevant because it is not going to happen, and if it does happen, then we could address such point at that time.  If you believe bitcoin's supply is going to change at any time in the near future, then you are surely in some whimsical thinking that no one else is planning around such scenario.. but yet you still want to talk about it?  Get a a grip, BTCMILLIONAIRE.
Learn to read you illiterate fucking moron.

"One is limited in supply (BITCOIN), the other is not (GOLD).

You clearly have no comprehension of the English language. You just chain words arbitrarily with little to no content. No wonder you manage to make so much noise without saying anything.



1894. Post 50804327 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: realr0ach on April 28, 2019, 04:22:01 AM
It is very different from the federal reserve.

It's actually worse.  The fact transaction validators are always designed to centralize because it's not actually possible to create a decentralize digital currency in the first place means they both suffer from the exact same political power vacuum.  Yet, fiat bills at least provide some minor form of fungibility and permisionless behavior, while bitcoin provides you with none since there's no fungibility at all and you need to ask permission to one of the 1-10 transaction validators to do anything and...a permanent govt surveillance grid that abolishes the 5th amendment.

Your arguments are entirely based around the OPENING INNINGS of the game, not it's real endgame form.  That and the perspective of a greedy goyim attempting to suck out some type of profit from a possible pump and dump.  If you look at it from a perspective of playing god where pump and dump scamming profit is meaningless to you and all you care about is the feasibility of the system, fungibility and permisionless behavior, and prohibiting the construction of a dystopian police state, then of course both fiats and digital shitcoins are complete garbage compared to physical metals.
No, they are not.  I've pretty much mapped out the future in my chain of arguments. The gap is merely quantitative, not qualitative.



1895. Post 50804974 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: jojo69 on April 28, 2019, 06:00:10 AM
For fuck sake JJG



.
Actually might be the only person in this thread I'd put on ignore at this rate.

Not only does he repeatedly make up what he thinks others are saying falsely and refuses to accept it when people tell him that he misunderstood what they were saying, but now he also uses words while imbuing them with completely arbitrary meaning that has no common ground with the English language other than appearance.


Quote from: mindrust on April 28, 2019, 05:55:16 AM
Everything about bitcoin is natural. Scarcity too. Bitcoin was created by a holy creature who came from the outer space. His nickname was satoshi but in reality nobody knows his real name or how he looks like. (His real public name is probably something like this: 1SaThaHs2h7jsk... and his last name is his privates Smiley)

Many people think (including me) he was an alien came from a far away galaxy, taught us to use cryptography as a currency and when he was done with his job he teleported back to his planet. He left us with enough information to solve the rest of the problems.

TlDr?

Bitcoin is %100 natural.
Humans are natural, as such anything artificial is natural as well. All artificial things are natural, but not all natural things are artificial.



1896. Post 50812464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 12:23:17 PM
Not only does he repeatedly make up what he thinks others are saying falsely and refuses to accept it when people tell him that he misunderstood what they were saying, but now he also uses words while imbuing them with completely arbitrary meaning that has no common ground with the English language other than appearance.

Oh my god.  You know English the best, and how to you express ur selfie.  
No, I don't. But you're literally and demonstrably incapable of holding a coherent conversation.

You've done the same thing repeatedly. You make up the content of others' posts even though it's clearly false. Then you argue against the position of others that you have made up in a manner comparable to a complete degenerate. Even Roach manages to at least distill the content of the posts he's quoting when spewing his nonsense.


1. If you call Bitcoin non-artificial that's patently false. It is artificial. And that's not a technical argument. It's just a fact of the English language. If you can't even use words properly and refuse to amend your mistakes when pointed out to you there is no point in talking to you as you have no intention of conveying meaning and only care about rambling ad nauseum.

2.
Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 03:16:46 AM
Accordingly, try to change the 21 million bitcoin versus trying to figure out the extent to which the gold supply is scarce or not manipulated by paper inflation?  Which one is more scarce in real application and what the fuck problem has bitcoin attempted to solve?  

With bitcoin, we are talking practical application and a programmed and consensual scarcity, not some pie in the sky theory about what could or might happen in some hypothetical (not likely to happen scenario).  And, that is part of the reason why, currently, bitcoin has the strongest and hardest money that has ever been created  (until proven otherwise).
To which I've responded with:

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As far as the scarcity argument goes, it doesn't even exist. One is limited in supply, the other is not.
This response literally states that I've agreed with the idea that Bitcoin's supply is not unlimited, while gold virtually is. None of this has anything to do with the "artificial" argument which you clearly conflate with your absence of reading comprehension skills.

Yet you respond with this horseshit:
Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 28, 2019, 03:16:46 AM
One of the significant reasons that bitcoin is valuable remains its scarcity, and no one gives a ratt's ass if it could technically be changed through consensus, because it is not going to happen, at least not in the foreseeable future, not in any practical way, and such a change that is theoretically possible is not relevant because it is not going to happen, and if it does happen, then we could address such point at that time.  If you believe bitcoin's supply is going to change at any time in the near future, then you are surely in some whimsical thinking that no one else is planning around such scenario.. but yet you still want to talk about it?  Get a a grip, BTCMILLIONAIRE.
And thus proving once more that you are incapable of following an argument. You repeatedly conflated false assumptions of your own, then ramble on and on about "technically". There is no technicality issue here.

There are two arguments.

One, you clearly don't understand the word "artificial" and you're too arrogant and delusional to adopt its proper use.

Two, gold has virtually no scarcity and thus can't be compared to Bitcoin which is inherently limited. One is abundant, the other is scarce.

Again, learn to fucking read and get over yourself.

Instead of asking why you've possibly misunderstood you keep lashing out against everyone every time this happens. You're an emotional and impulsive asswipe that emits zero signs of intelligence. Perhaps Roach was right in assessing you as a chat bot.


So as a brief summary:

- You use words with no respect for their definition
- You have zero reading comprehension
- You can't follow even basic arguments
- You repeatedly conflate your false ideas of what has been said
- You ramble on and on about your conflated nonsense


I doubt anybody in this thread can make an argument as to why anyone should waste time reading your posts when not only you use words with no respect for their meaning, but also fail to listen when people repeatedly tell you that you're making up shit that has never been said. The latter happened at least twice just this week. Get a grip, JJG.



1897. Post 50812790 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: yefi on April 28, 2019, 05:53:44 PM
Bitcoin was created by a holy creature who came from the outer space.

Interesting point. Alien technology is not by definition artificial. Nor is that created by chimps for that matter, so WO thread is also natural.
Nice catch.



1898. Post 50812951 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

To ebb and to flow
Bitcoin's natural cycle
Cascade to the moon



1899. Post 50813003 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Thank you for proving once and for all that all you care about is stringing incoherent dribble, thus rendering everything you say irrelevant. Ignored.



1900. Post 50813043 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on April 28, 2019, 06:18:49 PM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/renault-trezor-concept/
not terribly convenient for holding your pocket money
What do you mean? Fits easily on a Yacht-Trezor as a sub-wallet for casual spending.



1901. Post 50814924 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on April 28, 2019, 07:09:32 PM
Im Antlitz der aufgehenden Sonne
Stand ich frühmorgens da
Mein Leib voller süßer Wonne
Und güldene bitcoins im Haar


Thats not a HAIKU  5-7-5   Tongue
Yep, clearly isn't. Good poem though.


How's your MS application and whisky tasting going?



1902. Post 50814994 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.43h):

Quote from: kingcolex on April 28, 2019, 09:06:12 PM
Im Antlitz der aufgehenden Sonne
Stand ich frühmorgens da
Mein Leib voller süßer Wonne
Und güldene bitcoins im Haar


Thats not a HAIKU  5-7-5   Tongue
Yep, clearly isn't. Good poem though.


How's your MS application and whisky tasting going?
I've seen quicker turn around time on bank loans, what's taking them so long!
Big merit is screwing the little guy again!



1903. Post 50827195 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: d_eddie on April 29, 2019, 10:51:01 AM

Sorry for quoting the Roach, guys, but this may be worth a laugh. I was (passive-aggressively) amused.
I feel left out.



1904. Post 50827329 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: jbreher on April 29, 2019, 03:29:49 PM
I admit there is no easy criterion to tell one from the other onchain, after the fact.

QFT.
If someone was moving funds back and forth repeatedly then that would be an obvious criterion for a spam transaction. Surely other metrics could identify other "easy criteria" for spam transactions.

Given a random isolated transaction things look different though.



1905. Post 50827427 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on April 29, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
BTC 8 tps
BCH 80 tps
BSV 800 tps
There are shitcoins with over 10k tps. Should we dump BSV for them?



1906. Post 50827530 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on April 29, 2019, 06:56:22 PM
Decision is fully yours. Own it.

Hows that working out for you bear?  Owning it?

k thanks and now gtfo with your big blocker bullshit...bubye

https://i.imgur.com/winWljK.jpg
If history is anything to go by then we know that today's prices are irrelevant. Just look at Amazon crashing into the ground and now being the most valuable company in the world.

Not saying BSV will get anywhere, but still. Non-argument.



1907. Post 50827658 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on April 29, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
BTC will not be able to increase the block size because in this case it will have to cancel the Seqwit

Just how fucking retarded are you ?
Given the amount of poorly written copy/paste talking points. Extremely.



1908. Post 50827737 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on April 29, 2019, 07:25:50 PM
If history is anything to go by then we know that today's prices are irrelevant. Just look at Amazon crashing into the ground and now being the most valuable company in the world.

Not saying BSV will get anywhere, but still. Non-argument.

Whilst I appreciate loyalty, there is no argument. The market decided a long time ago. Some people just have failed to realize it. I was stating what I believe are facts. #dyor
Facts are only such after the fact, and in this case history has yet to unfold.

The market isn't even at the size of a wet fart today. Things can change very quickly as the world on-boards.

I still don't think BSV will pull ahead, but the race certainly isn't over. I mean Trump is president and people are being publicly apologetic to the sexualization of children. We don't live in a rational world.



1909. Post 50846189 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: lightfoot on April 30, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
So Tether, the 100% backed by fiat 100% stable coin that no one can mine because it's SPECIAL is really only 74% backed by assets.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-lawyer-confirms-stablecoin-74-percent-backed-by-cash-and-equivalents

Man what is it with people? Everyone falls for the infinite temptation of fractional-reserve banking. Everyone seems to just say the best intentions but really be full of 100% USDA horseshit.

Bitcoin is simply not going to succeed because you can't commit fraud with it. If you have a bitcoin you have a bitcoin. If you don't have a bitcoin you simply can't say you have a bitcoin.

Sad that the only thing which will work in this world is fraud.
I don't know how long it will take, but people are very slowly waking up. At least if liberals stop actively decreasing the average IQ by removing all responsibility from citizens in a charade of morals.



1910. Post 50846267 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 01, 2019, 01:30:49 AM
In other news, Florida illegally attempts to pass law to revoke the 1st amendment and make talking about Jews in any manner illegal:

https://www.watchdog.org/florida/florida-legislature-delivers-anti-semitism-law-for-desantis-to-sign/article_55995e22-6ab3-11e9-945f-6bdcae8a6e70.html
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The EU is a shithole.


Quote from: rebal15 on April 30, 2019, 11:51:52 PM
End of the day, open WO last page ..... r0ach, r0ach and rebalf*** damn ......

Instant go to HODLsleep Roll Eyes

No time for those F***up’s!

Goodnight WO’s and HODL on.
Your mind is so small to undetstand things. Just repeat what others say.
I'm not sure somebody with three merits for 327 posts can speak about intelligence with any authority. There are enough BTC antagonists on this forum for you to get merit from them if you had anything of value to say.

Or in words you can understand: Eat shit retard.



1911. Post 50846317 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: DaRude on May 01, 2019, 05:02:10 AM
So Tether, the 100% backed by fiat 100% stable coin that no one can mine because it's SPECIAL is really only 74% backed by assets.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-lawyer-confirms-stablecoin-74-percent-backed-by-cash-and-equivalents

Man what is it with people? Everyone falls for the infinite temptation of fractional-reserve banking. Everyone seems to just say the best intentions but really be full of 100% USDA horseshit.

Bitcoin is simply not going to succeed because you can't commit fraud with it. If you have a bitcoin you have a bitcoin. If you don't have a bitcoin you simply can't say you have a bitcoin.

Sad that the only thing which will work in this world is fraud.

I don't know how long it will take, but people are very slowly waking up. At least if liberals stop actively decreasing the average IQ by removing all responsibility from citizens in a charade of morals.

Fractional reserve has been working for banks for hundreds of years now, don't see why it can't for Finex. Even knowing what we know now people still hold their money there, it would take 75% of people to withdraw now for them to go belly up think and doesn't look like we're close to that happening, in fact they'd probably be "safe" running at 50% fractional reserve.
To clarify, my post was in reference to the cursive part.

As I see it the real issue is with central banking, over the top tax rates and government wastefulness. Fractional reserve can work if done sensibly and not bailed out by the tax payer. It's no different from debt, which is a highly productive tool.



1912. Post 50848386 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Capitalism just works.

Here is the obvious answer to censorship:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/30/youtube-algorithm-changes-negatively-impact-google-ad-revenue.html


What opponents of capitalism don't understand is that it is essentially a global voting mechanism. It's the closest we have ever gotten to democracy.



1913. Post 50858540 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: vapourminer on May 01, 2019, 10:59:07 AM
I always care about BTC price movements, as my bags are heavy with it. If there wasn't any upside for me in this advocacy, do you think I'd be taking the continued abuse?

And in point of truth, if you hadn't noticed, my attempts to gain recognition of the flaws within LN -- at the cost of crippled onchain capacity -- have nothing whatsoever to do with BCH nor SV, as neither of these chains suffer from anemic block size caps.

>says he's invested in BTC
>takes lame shots at BTC every chance he gets

The more breher speaks, the more I think hes a troll that lives in his mother's basement, and owns no crypto at all. Putting him on ignore. Its the healthiest option at this point. What does he actually contribute of value in terms of conversation? He can't absorb incoming information, only rehash tired rhetoric.

feel free to ignore him. i find he is a useful filter of information. ignores drama and fluff, only comments on technical stuff, with the chops to back up his views.

also as i still have some bitcoin cash from the btc/bcash_lol split (so by default abc and bsv, or whatever tickers those are under now as i havent moved them since those split), its useful to see what the "competition" is up to. as it just may effect btc price. although it sure doesnt seem to effect it much nowadays.
This is what I like about jbreher, even though I am against BCash.

And despite some of our differences, HM seems to be working towards that style of arguing as well which I can appreciate a lot.

As much as I love trash talking in private, I feel that if the general public made an effort to argue in a fact based and objective manner (objective as opposed to emotional) the political landscape would eventually follow suit.
And that would overall be one of the most positive achievements of humanity, regardless of whether or not we follow a conservative or liberal approach. Right now there's just far too much of a school tier popularity piss contest going on.

My hunch is that rational and fact based discourse would eventually lead to a fiscally conservative and socially liberal population, which appears to be the most sensible and empowering middle ground between the two ideologies. Fingers crossed Bitcoin and the current overall shitstorm will help us get there before we need to go for another round of WW.


Quote from: Dabs on May 01, 2019, 11:11:31 AM
Technically, Bitcoin is permissioned, but I wouldn't consider it like that when you can pay cents on the dollar to ask for, and be granted permission by almost everyone else, especially if you're sending larger value with less data. These so called rent-seeking middlemen designed to centralize will fight each other (opposing centralization) to include your transaction.

They're miners, that's what they do, and that's their incentive to do it.
While centralization by volume is certainly a very plausible outcome simply due to Economics of scale, your post precisely outlines why it doesn't matter in the way that Roach suggests. There is nothing to stop me from starting a premium service for the disenfranchised. In fact, payment accelerators already exist and anti-censorship transactions are no more than a variation of such.



1914. Post 50858647 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Hueristic on May 01, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
Yes, I'd rather not champion the tether cause at all as I thought it was a fractional reserve from the beginning (you can find tons of my posts warning about it years ago) and still think it was but I believe they balanced the books by BTD during the winter and then had that law firm confim they had the funds but now they only have 75% because the US led attack on them seized to 750 million (orso). So it looks like they were completely solvent until the Good ol US of A went after them and that has interesting timing as other stablecoins that are institutionally backed are now launched.

Things that make you go Hmmm.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XM1-16wxe24/hqdefault.jpg
The government is only trying to protect us from our own bad choices.

Such as getting a double mortgage to 80x long Tesla over a 420 meme Tweet.

Or getting a job when you're on social welfare.



1915. Post 50858711 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 01, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Fractional reserve has been working for banks for hundreds of years now, don't see why it can't for Finex. Even knowing what we know now people still hold their money there, it would take 75% of people to withdraw now for them to go belly up think and doesn't look like we're close to that happening, in fact they'd probably be "safe" running at 50% fractional reserve.
To clarify, my post was in reference to the cursive part.

As I see it the real issue is with central banking, over the top tax rates and government wastefulness. Fractional reserve can work if done sensibly and not bailed out by the tax payer. It's no different from debt, which is a highly productive tool.

Blasphemy. Partial reserve banking steals purchasing power -- and thereby wealth -- from the public at large, and concentrates it in the hands of the parasite banking class.
Suppose it was transparent and properly compensated as opposed to the way it was now, e.g. if depositors were paid proper interest for their deposits used in fractional reserve schemes, would you still see it that way?

If yes, why?


The way I see it is that banks used to be necessary but not much longer will be, especially as Bitcoin establishes a status as an appreciating currency. As such I expect different banks running different schemes to attract clients, such as paying out profits made from fractional reserve trades.



1916. Post 50860617 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 02, 2019, 01:55:01 AM
The future of silver and gold is bleak.  Technology continues to improve mining yields on earth and over the next few decades we are likely to see a flood of precious metals from mining in space.  

And here's the 4000th retarded post pretending the cost to mine anything in space will not be astronomical.
If you try to do it right now, certainly. But that doesn't matter whatsoever for two reasons.

1.) Costs exponentially decline whenever there is an incentive

2.) Asteroids have so god damn fucking much gold on them that nominal cost is redundant. If something costs 1 Trillion but returns 2 Trillion you've got a viable venture.

And without a doubt at some point in time the cost of trying to get some metals out of space will be so far below the value of the mined metals that somebody will do it.


Also. Nuclear fusion + synthesis.



1917. Post 50860783 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 02, 2019, 03:28:07 AM
Because in the fractional reserve banking system, the vast majority of the money that banks loan does not exist until the very moment the loan is made. It is the indebtedness itself that zaps the money into existence. As such, the 'principal' is something that the bank would not have to lend you (or to use for any other purpose), as that money does not even exist before the loan is made. The bank acts like this principal is their money that they are lending. But if it is the very act of borrowing it that zaps it into existence, was it really the bank's to begin with? (Of course not) Why could the borrower not zap it into existence themselves? Only because the bank has been granted under colour of law this exclusive ability to counterfeit new money into existence. And worse, when it is repaid, it is paid to the bank. Money that the bank did not have until the act of the loan zapped it into existence. And to add insult to injury, the bank not only gets this newly created money, they charge interest to the borrower for the privilege of being allowed to counterfeit this money into existence.

Bizarre, but it's the motherfuckin' truth.

Sure - if you can find a way to fix that, and allow for partial reserve banking, I'm willing to listen to your ideas. But if you're feeding me a turd that's been sprayed in gold paint, I ain't gonna go for that.

Response to yours lightfoot's post (omitted for space).

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the banking system in general. But what you're describing seems to be central banking to me.



Let's assume that we now live in a world without central banking. I am the first person to create a bank.

People deposit their money with me for safe-keeping because I have state-of-the-art impenetrable security. I now realize that people only use 50% of the funds during peak load.

Meanwhile, businesses ask me for loans so they can eventually turn them into profits.

I decide to use an amount sufficiently below 50% of the money deposited in my bank to hand out loans and receive interest.

What I have now done was writing loans using money that exists as my clients put it in my care.

I decide to be a greedy cunt because I'm the only bank in town and very smart, so I keep all the profits to myself.

Someone who is very smarterer than me comes along and copies my system, but now hands out some of the profits back into depositor accounts.

This repeats until an equilibrium creditor and depositor interest rate is reached that covers all risks while keeping marginal profits for all three parties involved.


Would that not describe private banks without central banking?

And how does that differ from a hedge fund that offered plastic cards and wire transfers?



1918. Post 50860794 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Searing on May 02, 2019, 03:11:18 AM
Some  of you guys seem to act like you are eternal holder.s  Whats the point of making money if you never spend it and enjoy yourself.  Never know how long you will live and you can enjoy it a lot more when your younger.


I was mostly confused when I was younger...still mostly confused...but I can rationalize it as the world being F*cked now...so it is now meh...

Life is just an experience machine. The second you die you'll piss yourself, literally and figuratively. And then proceed for another round on one of the many rides. /spoiler



1919. Post 50861062 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: CoinCube on May 02, 2019, 05:02:12 AM

Let's assume that we now live in a world without central banking. I am the first person to create a bank.

People deposit their money with me for safe-keeping because I have state-of-the-art impenetrable security. I now realize that people only use 50% of the funds during peak load.

Meanwhile, businesses ask me for loans so they can eventually turn them into profits.

Once you promise your depositors that can withdraw their money at any time while simultaneously lending that money out in the “hope” most of your depositors won’t ask all ask for their money at once you have committed fraud. You have made a series of promises you cannot honor if unfavorable circumstances arise. If you are smart you will bribe the politicians to make the scheme legal. If you are smarter you will get the government to backstop the fraud when inevitable bank failures occur putting the taxpayer on the hook.

I wrote a series of essays on the topic a while back if you are interested.

Finance: Part 1, 2, 3
In the force majeure tier case in which all depositors withdraw their money simultaneously I could still take out a loan myself.

Accumulated profits or initial deposits of mine could also guarantee 100% withdrawal at any time whilst leaving room for fractional reserve.

Depending on the ratio I could also take out a loan with variable rates of success to facilitate the withdrawals.

One could also offer different types of contracts for the deposits. Ones which don't guarantee 100% withdrawals at all times depending on the current dynamics but which offer interests on the deposit, perhaps variable with respect to the ratio of guaranteed withdrawals, and ones which offer 100% withdrawal rate but don't offer any interest or perhaps even have associated costs.


Will read your essays.



1920. Post 50865268 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 02, 2019, 06:42:36 AM
3)  The ISS cost $150 billion, can only handle a crew of 7, and doesn't generate near enough power to mine anything.  Facilities to do all this nonsense you speak of would be trillions of dollars and science fiction levels of size.  Please draw us up your sketch of what this supposed facility looks like.  Lemme guess, it's a dyson sphere?  Imagine them trying to drag asteroids towards this thing, making some tiny mistake, and it runs into your base at 10mph, which is enough to destroy your entire bazillion dollar facility that took decades to build and everyone dies.  Or they lose control of the rock, drop it on earth, and it just wipes out a state or country.


Exponentially declining costs. But even those aside, $150 Billion is pretty cheap if you can mine trillions worth of metals on a fucking asteroid. You could spend ten times as much as on the ISS and still come out with profits.



1921. Post 50867895 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 02, 2019, 02:33:29 PM
#Gold is in big trouble. H&S top projects to 1236, then much lower. $GC_F $GLD



https://twitter.com/PeterLBrandt/status/1123944564224659456

#buyBTC
Did the Grayscale ad actually work?



1922. Post 50873082 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

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1923. Post 50880713 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 03, 2019, 02:07:51 PM
Are you still planning to sell 1 million USD worth at, I think you said before, $6,000?

Tell me to fuck off if you want brother but I think you’ll be way under selling yourself if hou were to Bob. The halving is next May, we could be at double or treble the current price in a year.

Best of luck any way, man.

LFC
I mean depending on his stash it can make sense. Would consider selling in bulks of 50-100k per month though.



1924. Post 50882284 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Ibian on May 03, 2019, 04:08:04 PM
I just noticed that Misandry is a name in game of thrones. Different spelling, but no damn way is it a coincidence.
First we had Nazis on the right, now they're on the left.

First we had little to no rights for women, now we get less and less rights for men.


There's a reason why oscillators are so powerful at describing the world.



1925. Post 50885313 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 03, 2019, 08:29:25 PM
https://cryptoinsider.com/facebook-to-launch-project-libra-a-stablecoin-based-network/
good timing Grin
Leave it to fascists to come up with hypocritical terminology all the time. Unless they are implying that they are tipping the balance in whichever direction they please.



1926. Post 50885347 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 03, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Z3r9VVT.jpg
not the brightest pickle in the jar, but winged it
That is better than I expected of him and his rhetoric.



Edit: Yikes. His Master thesis is a complete joke too. Just copy/pasting definitions and not a single proof. Most likely wouldn't even pass for a Bachelor here. In fact, this might even pass as plagiarism (*nvm since the regurgitation is cited). I'm too lazy to read the thing, but brushing over it it seems like there isn't a single original thought.



1927. Post 50885446 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Biodom on May 03, 2019, 09:06:39 PM
W Buffett bought AAPL at $1tril valuation
W Buffett bought AMZN at $1tril valuation

There must be method in his...never mind.
He will buy BTC at $50-60K (~1 tril) or maybe when BTC price exceeds BRK-A (currently at $327,765/share)
Did he actually pay a $1t valuation for his shares though?

But yeah, seems like he's gotten old.



1928. Post 50893889 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 01:09:17 PM
Decided to dig mine up

Just checked mine.

I am seriously, seriously impressed with myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349698.msg3745619#msg3745619
God damn it. Please let me know when to go 80x.

Edit: Wait, does this forum mark edited posts?



1929. Post 50895923 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Searing on May 04, 2019, 03:29:54 PM

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/1124678902167818241

The only thing W buffet is = an OG boss that made billions, but doesn't wanna admit to see the future....



Does not want to look like a 'fool' if his predictions on BTC are wrong....that and the fact ..he made his $$$ in traditional markets

thus has a different 'skill set' (ie outdated) that also is in the back of his mind, IMHO.
I wouldn't say it's "outdated" at all, it just doesn't apply to BTC. Traditional metrics for companies aren't going to disappear.



1930. Post 50896721 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: fillippone on May 04, 2019, 05:08:50 PM
I need to know more about this:

https://i.imgur.com/NvHAvhy.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5uAL1GXoAAcsIH.jpg

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1124633680604008454?s=21

I usually don’t like to trade, but this guy is so good and with a sensible approach that I think I will give it a go.
What do you think?


Trading has a learning curve that pretty much looks like this: <

It's gritty, stressful, takes forever to get anywhere, and some >90% of people burn their accounts within a year. And of the remainder not many are really successful enough to make a living.

If you want to do it only use play money and don't increase your trading pool until you've been successful for years.


Keep in mind that if you see a strategy online that claims to work it either doesn't or it won't for very long because of everybody jumping on it.



1931. Post 50910579 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 05, 2019, 04:02:42 PM
Trollgoossens,
In 2017 the founder of Morgan Creek Capital Investment nailed it: "Only gamble was whether #Bitcoin would make if from $0 to $100, that was the real miracle. Going from $4,000 to $40,000 or $400,000 is easy".

https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1125026735727226881

That's completely wrong and par for the course of the bullshit you link to try and scam people every day.  Complete scams with zero fundamentals go from $0 to $100 ALL THE TIME.  What the hell do you think Bitconnect is? Fundamentals are NOT required for that to happen, only for it to not implode and go to zero once the greater fools dry up.  Bitcoin is a longer running scam simply because it takes a high amount of intelligence to do proper due dilligence on it and figure out transaction validators are designed to centralize so it has no reason to exist.  

Bitcoin has built-in rent seeking middlemen and doesn't remove counterparty risk, and doesn't even have the required traits to qualify as money or a commodity in the first place like fungibility.  It has no reason to exist compared to physical metals.  It's a permissioned ledger.  The only question is how long can the pump and dump go on zero fundamentals before there's a rush for the exits back to metals again. The crux of the situation is that the Jew bankers are trying to rig metals to prevent them from going up while trying to rig digital shitcoins up instead in order to try and lure people into a cashless society slavery system.
Difference is that BitConnect had one entity that could instantly extract all the cash out of the system. It was also a 100% obvious and transparent scam with no value proposition whatsoever.

Also, you keep running the same talking points. Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger. You are free to process and broadcast your own transactions or employ any number of the payment processors/accelerators.

And metals are still a shitshow. You make some decent arguments here and there when you're not going on and on about Jews or PMs, so it really puzzles me how you fail to understand that metals are going the way of the dodo a generation or two down the road. Except that dodos will be brought back at some point.
And in the short-term Bitcoin clearly has the superior expected value even without riding the waves up and down.



1932. Post 50918441 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: DaRude on May 05, 2019, 08:43:24 PM
The only, no, most likely yes. Its a numbers game, and as such there are always exceptions to every rule. There are reasons that the percent of flat earthers without education is much higher than those with PhDs from MIT. If they can mentally challenge their kids in multiple disciplines and surround them in such environment while they grow (in trailer parks) on their own, kudos to them they're the 0,000001% black swan even. Unfortunately the other 99.9% won't be that lucky. Don't think such behavior should be promoted or advertised with BTC. Wasn't there a guy a while back who leveraged BTC with his mortgage only to get wiped out few months later?
It's easier than ever to learn anything you want from the comfort of literally anywhere with an internet connection. Schools will either change massively or they will be dying over the coming generations. Schools today are just terrible and actively stop people from becoming achievers.



1933. Post 50918638 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

@Kenzawak
I strongly recommend getting a bowl of Kitsune Soba/Ramen/Udon, whichever noodles you prefer. I think they're vegetarian (might have to double check the broth depending on the place), but they use deep-fried tofu as a topping. And unlike regular tofu it actually has flavour. The frying process turns it into some kind of sponge that sucks up all the broth. Love the stuff.

Agedashi-dofu and -mochi are fantastic too. Fried tofu/mochi with usually some sort of bell-pepper sauce.

Curries are great too with all sorts of toppings, can recommend CoCo Ichiban blindly.

Vegetable Tempura just works for anyone. Can never go wrong with anything deep-fried.

Nasu Dengaku - Miso-glazed eggplant.

As far as Miso soup goes, I'm sure you'll find some that is vegetarian. I know that a lot of restaurants use shredded shrimp to give it some seafood flavoured kick, but a lot just use Konbu only.

There should also be some varieties of vegetarian ramen/soba and rice balls (fried or non-fried).


Anyway, just some of the non-meat/non-fish dishes that stood out to me while there.



1934. Post 50918840 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: d_eddie on May 06, 2019, 02:59:06 AM

You make some decent arguments here and there when you're not going on and on about Jews or PMs, so it really puzzles me how you fail to understand that metals are going the way of the dodo a generation or two down the road. Except that dodos will be brought back at some point.
I think his persona is actually a piece of work. My wildest and most likely guess is he's a mid-upper class urban jew.

1 He's familiar with relatively obscure details of (((their))) lifestyle/culture and successfully uses his knowledge as a counterfeit "I know my enemy".

2 His level of understanding in certain technical fields is higher than usually shows. What he writes up is not always google soup.

3 He feigns obtuse insensitivity by the use of repetitive patterns, successfully evoking schizoid psychosis.

1 suggests "Jew". 2 suggests middle/upper class education. 3. suggests sophisticated character management, at least at the cliché level.

I wager he often laughs when reading or posting.

Quote
And in the short-term Bitcoin clearly has the superior expected value even without riding the waves up and down.

Also, you keep running the same talking points. Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger. You are free to process and broadcast your own transactions or employ any number of the payment processors/accelerators.

He knows it and does have some coin for sure. Probably not as much as he'd like: always hungry for more, you know the type. Don't forget (((who))) he actually is.

Undeniably effective. He's one of the first participants I noticed and focused on when I came here as a newbie around 2013.

Roach, as in Mr. Samsa, hm? I guess he was a jew, too, as was Franz K.


1. Could be explained away by fanaticism induced research. I have some very obscure knowledge about very obscure things mostly because I snowball down weird paths out of sheer interest.

2. is clear. I don't know about middle/upper class, but he's definitely not your average racist retard. (Although possibly still a racist retard.)

3. Sounds very plausible. But hard for me to imagine, mostly because I lack the discipline to do anything for such a long time. Seems like the most likely though.

Precisely because he seems to be taking the piss out of people. I agree that he's probably laughing a lot while on this thread (e.g. when he exposed himself as Ibian's sidekick).


Would also be surprised if he didn't have a significant stake in BTC and perhaps some other shitcoins for P&D as well. Always seems to avoid real arguments and clearly not stupid enough to miss out on such an obvious windfall.



1935. Post 50918890 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 06, 2019, 07:51:50 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.



1936. Post 50919024 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 06, 2019, 07:58:59 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.



1937. Post 50919178 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 06, 2019, 08:10:43 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1. No.

2. CSW is factually retarded, not a genius.



1938. Post 50920168 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Globb0 on May 06, 2019, 09:06:13 AM
Im keen to try (to make maybe) a folded omelette.

Looked good.
They're very much hit or miss for me. They're never bad, but they're often very lightly seasoned and sweetish. But the ones that are seasoned well are sublime.

There's a meme going around Japan that states that you can tell the quality of a sushi joint by tasting its omelette sushi. And to my surprise, it's spot on. I guess the level of care and attention to detail put into making the perfect omelette translates directly into top-tier sushi.

Anyway, they're fiddly to make. Especially without a square pan.


Quote from: realr0ach on May 06, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger.
the simple fact that all of them CAN blacklist you at any moment is what determines it's classification.  
No, they can not.

Quote from: realr0ach on May 06, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
But in the case of bitcoin, the number of transaction validators is designed to centralize so much there will likely only ever be between 1 to 10
Wrong.

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 06, 2019, 09:34:59 AM
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/166/kleiman-v-wright/
That is basically telling CSW to fuck off you illiterate twit.



1939. Post 50920918 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 06, 2019, 10:58:39 AM
Hi. American here. What's a tart? Every time I've ever heard it used in movies or TV it's always a derogatory term for female human. We have Pop Tarts.. Are they at all similar?

An open pastry case with a sweet filling.

Or a slaaaag depending on the company you keep. You can of course give a tart to a tart.
Sometimes a tart even gives a tart to a tart.



1940. Post 50924076 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Quote from: Paashaas on May 06, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
Response to yours lightfoot's post (omitted for space).

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the banking system in general. But what you're describing seems to be central banking to me.



Let's assume that we now live in a world without central banking. I am the first person to create a bank.

People deposit their money with me for safe-keeping because I have state-of-the-art impenetrable security. I now realize that people only use 50% of the funds during peak load.

Meanwhile, businesses ask me for loans so they can eventually turn them into profits.

I decide to use an amount sufficiently below 50% of the money deposited in my bank to hand out loans and receive interest.

What I have now done was writing loans using money that exists as my clients put it in my care.

I decide to be a greedy cunt because I'm the only bank in town and very smart, so I keep all the profits to myself.

Someone who is very smarterer than me comes along and copies my system, but now hands out some of the profits back into depositor accounts.

This repeats until an equilibrium creditor and depositor interest rate is reached that covers all risks while keeping marginal profits for all three parties involved.


Would that not describe private banks without central banking?

And how does that differ from a hedge fund that offered plastic cards and wire transfers?

Do not get fooled by Jbrehers copy pasting tactics, this guy is fake.

However, i agree with Jbreher this fiat system is a scam. Bitcoin is a very good alternative.

It is not possible for Bitcoin to disrupt this fiat scam with bigger blocks, 2e layers was already obvious many years ago.

This is just silly, advocating bigger blocks while it's a dead - end... Undecided
I am not under the impression that jbreher is of the copy/paste type.

Also that post was about banking in general and had nothing to do with BCash, Bitcoin, or disrupting the financial system.

Thanks for quoting it though, completely forgot about that.

Care to respond jbreher? Genuinely curious.



1941. Post 50934542 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.44h):

Guess changing one parameter of something that already exists means inventing it.


"Craig wrote the Bitcoin White paper, designed the Bitcoin economic model, created the Satoshi Nakamoto stage name and is proving this in court. However there is no doubt by anyone that he invented Bitcoin SV. Scaling matters...read this explosion."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118541778045624321



1942. Post 50937527 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: infofront on May 07, 2019, 02:27:56 PM

I'll do the honours.

Im contemplating  getting out of crypto for a while at least.  I've had enough of the hysteria...



The only way out of crypto is to get scammed.

It's like how in a gang, you have to get beat in, and beat out.
Alternatively you can try to lose millions when only putting in 700k or claiming that you're Satoshi.



1943. Post 50941473 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: MrFreeRoMan on May 07, 2019, 07:10:27 PM
@cz_binance

Have to perform some unscheduled server maintenance that will impact deposits and withdrawals for a couple hours.  No need to FUD.  Funds are #safu.




What do you think about this?
Binance
my account blocked with 18K $
I am absolutely unconcerned about my funds on Binance. And not just because I am properly hedged.



1944. Post 50941513 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Bitcoinaire on May 07, 2019, 07:36:16 PM
$BTC 3-Day Chart Bullish

Last bear market when the 3-Day Bitcoin price crossed above 200 EMA, it held as support & Guppy flipped green followed by a two-year uptrend

$BTC price just crossed above 200 EMA again Waiting to see if Guppy flips green w/ possible retest of support



https://twitter.com/Josh_Rager/status/1125766718482259969
Oh what the fuck. And here I thought I was smart for banding MAs in my code. Is it even possible to create something novel without knowing everything that exists lmao.


That chart looks pretty though. Here's my SOMA analysis (which is irrelevant because you can not predict prices or movements, if you want to trade technically learn about distributions):

Note how near May on the left side of the chart there's a tiny green zone follow by a tiny red zone just before September. Now on the right side of the chart the small green section is grey, hence I predict that the corresponding red section will be grey as well. This implies a slightly weaker drop relative to the last cycle, or a dampened fractal to be concise.



1945. Post 50941562 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 07, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
y tho?
you got kompromat on CZ?
I can neither confirm nor deny.



1946. Post 50943766 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

The hackers were able to withdraw 7000 BTC in this one transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea

The above transaction is the only affected transaction. It impacted our BTC hot wallet only (which contained about 2% of our total BTC holdings). All of our other wallets are secure and  unharmed.



https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711



1947. Post 50944009 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on May 08, 2019, 12:03:38 AM
CZ...you said safu?   Huh


apparently the hot wallet at Binance lost 7k corn...ouch.
It's an insurance fund/cold wallet that covers the losses of the hot wallet in a case like this.



1948. Post 50950463 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 08, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Quesque le fuck



https://twitter.com/bitfinexed/status/1125948259229491200?s=21

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/07/05/syscoin-binance-cryptocurrency-2/amp/

Yeah I saw some tweets about that. Mostly from tinfoil tier retards though.

No shit if the HOT wallet with 7000 BTC got hacked once it would likely have a similar amount the next time around if it happens only one year later.

People are either retarded or opportunistic (margin shorts now/longs after clear).


Also, people seem completely oblivious to how hard it is to guard against hacking.



1949. Post 50953625 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: d_eddie on May 08, 2019, 12:16:51 PM
@kenzawak
Some of those places are on my to-do list. If you visit any of them, a few words would be appreciated.

And thanks for the merit!  Smiley

I'm already back home. I didn't have much time to check those out.
But if I do one day, I'll let you know.  Wink
Only thing I can tell you is about the first address you posted, well about the area where it's located. Ryogoku is where Sumos train. You can go watch one of their sessions in the morning (gotta reserve in advance though).
Nice tip about sumo training! I've never seen it live, but I did meet a wrestler once in the metro. His clean baby smell (talcum powder) could be felt from a distance through the crowd. I managed a photo with the baby hulk.

About restaurants - My first tip would have been about this tofu-only place with an impressive menu, outstanding quality and reasonable prices, but I can't recall its name or location. It was 10 years ago, who knows if it's even still there. I'd like to go there again though.

Quote
You're vegetarian too ? Vegan even ?
No, but I'm open, and I have a vegan day once in a while just for the heck of it. Serious vegans go against our own biology IMO.

I know it's quite hard to be a veg in Japan, they will slip animal products everywhere without a warning - you probably know their basic dashi broth, used in almost everything they cook, is made with small fish about 50% of the time.

Sorry I had to reply here. It's so unconvenient to discuss travel destinations and other pleasantries with all these people posting OTs about this bit dollar thing, or whatever it's called... why don't they go somewhere else?
I'm not much of a sports guy (I used to play some as a kid but I don't care much for watching others play). But I got invited to two of the sumo final tournaments and they were surprisingly intense. Even though the fights are extremely short they were never really boring. It's pretty interesting how they can go back and forth so much between who seems to be winning within such a short period.

Also, vegetarian food can be pretty damn good. I'll never give up on meat, but there are some fantastic dishes. African food in particular is really nice.



1950. Post 50953644 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: fabiorem on May 08, 2019, 12:55:28 PM
Any news on the China ban?
Who. Fucking. Cares.


Edit: Are those Binance coins really stuck for good? Or will they eventually be retrievable? In the former case I don't even care if it's a false flag (which I doubt). The more coins are out of circulation the more valuable the rest become.

Edit2: Of course they're not stuck. Would've been pretty weird for people capable of pulling this off fucking up so bad. Although it would've been hilarious.



1951. Post 50981051 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

@Elwar Glad to see you safe. Hope to hear your story soon (in as much detail as you can spare and as little necessary for OpSec).



Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 10, 2019, 05:26:07 AM
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-democrat-ban-cryptocurrencies

"By CCN: Bitcoin-bashing Democrat Congressman Brad Sherman is urging his colleagues to pass a law that would ban cryptocurrencies in the United States.

“I look for colleagues to join with me in introducing a bill to outlaw cryptocurrency purchases by Americans, so that we nip this in the bud.”

Congressman Sherman, who’s from California, made the remarks May 9 at a meeting of the House Financial Services Committee."

We need more politicians like this to help pamp us to 100k right away Grin
My first thought when I saw him was "what a twat, no wonder people hate Republicans". Oh boy.



1952. Post 50981382 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 10, 2019, 07:53:30 AM
This is the current golden cross on 100 MA Daily / 200 MA Daily


This is the same format golden cross 100 MA Daily / 200 MA Daily in October 2015

Note the missing flat period of the slowest MA. While fundamentals could very well prove your arrow correct (which wouldn't surprise me due to acceleration of adoption and FOMO), the technicals are telling a different story. Don't go 80x just yet and brace for impact.



1953. Post 50981569 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 10, 2019, 10:06:07 AM

He's one of the first politicians to want rid of it for the 'right' reasons which is a teensy bit worrying, not that it'll get anywhere. It's not about Ponzis or drug dealing. It's about eating the dollar's role.

All of his objections are true. It's a powerful backhanded endorsement of its virtues.
Very true, but way too late. Too many countries that are embracing it, so if the US outlaws it it'll turn itself into a shithole.



1954. Post 50984102 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on May 10, 2019, 03:06:58 PM
It's nice to be with all the cool guys on this train.  Roll Eyes I think there's nothing stopping this train, it's just gaining power.  Cool

I read some article the other day about some genuine research NASA is doing with locomotion beyond light speed, and it doesn't use a conventional propulsion system as we've come to know.

Instead, it apparently functions by essentially supercavitating the fabric of space/time.

Crazy shit. Wish I could find the article...

Anyway, point is, that's what I think Bitcoin is starting to do. It is going to begin warping space/time, over the next three years, for those of us fortunate enough to have hodl'd strong.

EDIT: Quick search: https://dailygalaxy.com/2019/03/warp-bubbles-nasa-manipulating-spacetime-to-achieve-faster-than-light-travel-weekend-feature/
Is that a flashlight or am I just happy to see that article.



1955. Post 50995947 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: alevlaslo on May 11, 2019, 05:18:46 AM
BCH has already grown 4 times, but bitcoin only 2 times, buy BSV before it's too late, it has not grown at all
CSW is the Madoff of this time.



1956. Post 50996360 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: nutildah on May 11, 2019, 05:31:56 AM
BTW what's the decay ratio for WO Merits? If I've received 4 WO Merits does that mean I have 2 sWO Merits?
Yes, for every 1 Merit you get you gain 1 sMerit.



Also since I've seen some others do it and I have yuge humbleness.

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 14, 2018, 01:03:05 PM
Triple post inc. I've been printing money with altcoins the past few days, this very well may be the precursor for the next Bitcorn bull-run. The more alt-coins rally with Bitcorn down the more people will catch wind of what is going on and get interested in getting large amounts of Bitcorn to buy shitcoins with. Perhaps the winter won't be as long and cold as it seemed up until now.

Have I mentioned that I am the most humblest.



1957. Post 50997933 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

To the Murricans in this thread.

I understand that your capital gains tax rate depends on your absolute annual income and hodl duration. Is the income in that consideration your capital gains alone, your personal income from work, or your total income?

And what do sensible health care plans cost per month?



1958. Post 51019894 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.45h):

Quote from: infofront on May 12, 2019, 06:23:21 AM
Supreme King Uberbear Tyler Jenks issues first Bitcoin buy recommendation in 17 months:



https://twitter.com/LucidInvestment/status/1127250971053129728
Hyperwave might have some merit (although not here and now). But this guy is clearly retarded if he recommends a first buy in 17 months, hyperwave or not.



1959. Post 51036436 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 13, 2019, 09:43:52 PM
Guys, 8-9 years ago $1 jumps a day were huge. 5-6 years ago $10-50 jumps a day were huge. 2 years ago $100 jumps a day were huge. And now same is happening with $500-1000 jumps a day. Indicator for where we are heading to?
Anything below 7 digits is undervalued relative to the price a decade or two from now.

A snowball effect where the global Economy adapts Bitcoin as its lifeblood could reasonably see 8 digits within a millenial's lifetime.

The $3m estimate we saw on this thread the other day only considered 10% of M2, so 8 digits are well within current parameters if fiat currencies implode OR the M2 growth rate persists.


If you throw in a century of economic growth then 9 digits could be plausible as well as follows:

Suppose Bitcoin absorbs 10% of M2 and the M2 growth rate of roughly 4% persists for a century.

That would imply 1.04^100 = 50.5x growth over 100 years.

That would bring the 10% estimate from 3m per Bitcoin to 151.5m per Bitcoin 100 years from now.


You'd have to factor out the printing presses, which could significantly drop this number.

But mid to high 8 digits seem anything but ridiculous before the year 2119.



1960. Post 51037179 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: toknormal on May 13, 2019, 10:40:12 PM
If you throw in a century of economic growth then 9 digits could be plausible as well as follows:

Suppose Bitcoin absorbs 10% of M2 and the M2 growth rate of roughly 4% persists for a century.

That would imply 1.04^100 = 50.5x growth over 100 years.

That would bring the 10% estimate from 3m per Bitcoin to 151.5m per Bitcoin 100 years from now.


These kind of valuations are highly flawed. If bitcoin ever absorbed even a fraction of "M2" growth it would be largely as a pure unit of account, not a store of value. In other words you'd (by definition of M2) be talking about BTC denominated bank deposit accounts and money market funds and all kinds of other fractional reserve derivatives.

Use of bitcoin as a unit of account is something hodlers tend to ignore. If bitcoin ever became a currency we would not be exchanging actual bitcoins, but bitcoin denominated credit just as we use arbitrary units of credit today. So you can't just divide random incumbent money supply figures by 21 million to get a price for a future BTC. Since it's limited in supply it's an asset and will always be an asset.

If you denominate, say, UK GDP in bitcoin then it's around 0.3 Trillion BTC. The GDP can be 0.3 Trillion BTC even though there are not that many bitcoins in existence.

While true that we could denominate any number of metrics in tons of copper without those tons of copper physically existing, that point does not exactly apply to the definition of M2 (cash and liquid assets).

And yes, you certainly can use M2 in such a manner to estimate future Bitcoin prices based on different events (such as Bitcoin becoming the main used global currency, which is quite likely at this point because nobody wants to convert from one fiat to another, even implicitly without knowing, while shopping online with Paypal and losing money to exchange rates).

While precise estimates would require a more in depth analysis, the principle holds due the definition of M2 (for the M1 part) and the velocity of money models (for the M2\M1 = liquid assets) part of the definition.



1961. Post 51043473 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: 600watt on May 14, 2019, 07:32:53 AM
F***ING UNBELIEVABLE




on one day in the future you will be posting this and it will be only 1btc for that gold...
And then I will actually buy one as an ancient relic of the past.



Also:

Happy birthday LFC.



1962. Post 51045763 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 14, 2019, 12:19:03 PM
Please stop saying 'that's just semantics'.
Use words in their generally-agreed-upon fashion or not at all.


'When I use a word,' HairyMaclairy said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said V8, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said HairyMaclairy, 'which is to be master — that's all.'
Technically using very words much same difference?



1963. Post 51050204 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: 600watt on May 14, 2019, 02:27:05 PM

the fair value of shitcoins is zero. null.
why would you advise bitcoiners to invest in scamcoins?

Although I appreciate the value of tribalism in a competitive environment, that is a very stupid comment if I may say so.

Bitcoin would be nowhere without "sh*coins" because they are the buttressing by which it survives. That "buttressing" provides hedging support, diversification, optimal access for new market participants and generally all round builds an industry in which bitcoin can consolidate roots.

Not least, alts are also a far more effective way of accumulating bitcoin than just buying bitcoin because at any given moment there's always one or more of them outperforming it for gain.

So all in all I wouldn't p*ss on the potato patch that you're growing in if I were you. (I also make the same case in reverse to sh*coin maximalists by the way - for the same reasons).

what is stupid by ALL means are shitcoins. you got it the wrong way around. bitcoin would be in much better shape by all metrics if there were no shitcoins. they provide no utility, they are scamming people, they keep good devs busy because every week there is a new shitcoin that needs to be implemented, they get marketed as "the better, faster, newer" bitcoin. the scamcoin sellers spill out nothing but hate towards bitcoin and its community. shitcoins need to be fought against in every legal way.

and yeah, some use speculating shitcoins to gain more btc. if i want to do that i just go into a casino because the level of scamming is lower there.
There are shitcoins that are trying to do what Bitcoin does, which fit your description.

And then there are some genuinely unique solutions. Not going to shill in the WO thread, but you're missing the bigger picture.


You are essentially suggesting that Amazon & co are worthless shit companies because they are just another shitty money grabbing website during the dot com bubble. The internet would be better off without more websites.

Heck, it's not even just that either. You are also simultaneously suggesting that stocks are useless because the USD would be much better off without them.

If you fail to see the potential value of tokens then you clearly don't know much about traditional markets. Or you got burnt so hard that you're demonizing the entire space now. Or you've literally only seen Beeeeconnneeeeeeeeeeeect etc. Not sure what causes your extremist views but they are not inline with reality.


And your last assertion is strictly false as well. Every single casino is modeled in a way that increases the probability of depleting your money the more games you play. Even with the outright scammy shitcoins you can however outplay the market if you are willing to invest the time and have the skill, something that you won't be able to in a casino by design.



1964. Post 51051385 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: 600watt on May 14, 2019, 06:34:23 PM
There are shitcoins that are trying to do what Bitcoin does, which fit your description.

And then there are some genuinely unique solutions. Not going to shill in the WO thread, but you're missing the bigger picture.


You are essentially suggesting that Amazon & co are worthless shit companies because they are just another shitty money grabbing website during the dot com bubble. The internet would be better off without more websites.

Heck, it's not even just that either. You are also simultaneously suggesting that stocks are useless because the USD would be much better off without them.

If you fail to see the potential value of tokens then you clearly don't know much about traditional markets. Or you got burnt so hard that you're demonizing the entire space now. Or you've literally only seen Beeeeconnneeeeeeeeeeeect etc. Not sure what causes your extremist views but they are not inline with reality.


And your last assertion is strictly false as well. Every single casino is modeled in a way that increases the probability of depleting your money the more games you play. Even with the outright scammy shitcoins you can however outplay the market if you are willing to invest the time and have the skill, something that you won't be able to in a casino by design.


i dont understand why folks cheer those shitcoins. shitcoins are fundamentally different to bitcoin. it is not like comparing different stocks of competing companies. bitcoin is a tech breakthrough. no alt is a tech breakthrough. bitcoin is used by millions of people for almost a decade now. shitcoins are not used for anything. what alt are you actually using (other than gambling)? i am not being extremist here, just very conservative.

bitcoin solves the byzantine generals problem. what problem in computer science is any alt solving? bitcoin has no owner, leader  -  it is decentralised. shitcoins are not decentralized. shitcoins are created by individuals or companies that want to make profit. how to make profit when there is neither a use case nor users? well, the only way to profit is to scam people and try to sell you their u s e l e s s  token. and that is what they do: they run around and tell everyone about their new coin that you should buy.

and my last assertion is not false at all. when i go to a casino i at least know to what degree i get scammed. when buying shitcoins it is not false to assume that the scam level is way higher. in a casino i pay fees and i get entertained and maybe lose or win. when buying useless altcoins the scam level is 100% just to begin with.

bitcoin is a protocol. a standard. there is no need for several thousand protocols. how many "internets" do we have?
Again, you seem to be under the impression that out of the thousands of shitcoins every single one is trying to copy Bitcoin and you couldn't be further from the truth.
I have been and will keep saying that most shitcoins (that are around today) will go to zero because they're run by con artists, shitheads, retards, good people with good ideas but lack of experience to see them through and so on.

But there certainly are unique solutions that can and will solve equity in a better way than the stock market does. Which again, you denominate in USD (BTC) while you own stock (shitcoin).
They're also infinitely superior to traditional means of fundraising (thus allowing more people to start businesses as the market matures) and they're better at aligning the interests of the investor with those of the entrepreneur by unlocking "developer tokens" based on success/time. If you locked up Bitcoin they would get free money, if they only have their own shitcoin unlocked then they have to make sure it will work to be profitable.

And who decided that altcoins have to "solve a computer science problem"? You couldn't be any more arbitrary with that point. Just because the sun provides us with life doesn't mean we don't need lamps "because they don't create life", they still glow you know? And in places where the sun doesn't shine.

Yes it is 100% false. In a casino the more games you play the higher the probability becomes that you lose, period. You can absolutely not compare a market where you can freely choose how you interact with it to a casino. The expected value of a casino is STRICTLY NEGATIVE for the player. The expected value for a trader depends on the trader. And again, false assumption that all alts are the same. Do you think all people are the same too?



1965. Post 51062731 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: erre on May 15, 2019, 05:47:28 AM
While solidly behind bitcoin, I cannot be at the position of "only bitcoin forever".
Here is my purely behavioristic argument:

1. Wall Street (WS) largely "missed" bitcoin as more than 84% is already issued with very small (anecdotally) institutional ownership.

2. WS knows how to do "promotions".

3. Would it be easier for WS to promote a new token/coin/entity that is not almost fully subscribed yet vs the one that is already owned? I think that the answer is "probably, yes"

4. WS don't like chasing, but they do like sweet early deals.

Conclusion: BTC will be pushed first and will dramatically appreciate, but then the momentum might switch to "shitcoins".
Which ones's?
IMHO, the one's that are under-issued: XRP (since Ripple can make sweet deals at 40C now with appreciation later), watch out for Ripple issuing billions of coins from their 66 bil "stash", maybe ZEC as only 6mil out of 21 mil were mined so far. Don't want to mention newcomers, but watch out for large tranches of coins being allocated to WS hedge funds and institutions from some new and upcoming chains.

Personally, I don't think that ethereum would show large appreciation due to much competition in the area (POS) where it wants to compete.

One can, hopefully, design a strategy where potential profits in "shitcoins" would be transferred to bitcoin in due course.
I don't intend to sell any bitcoin (and certainly not for shitcoins), hopefully, until retirement or some unforeseen urgency, but some cash allocation along the lines that were mentioned above could be interesting. We shall see.



So, you are basically saying "buy ripple" because it's centralized bank money?

Not cool bro...


This is why I'm not interested in listing individual coins.

There is no doubt that Bitcoin will remain at the top as the dollar AND gold of the new world. But you'd have to have gone through life blindfolded to not realize that altcoins will not be disappearing.

The more the market grows the more players will compete to create unique solutions outside of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin will be what you want to get to store value and what you will be using to spend your money.

Alts will be focused more on utility of individual applications, products or other problems.
You don't want to keep your proof of participation in e.g. a hedge fund in Bitcoin because those Bitcoins are supposed to be used within the fund to generate profits. So you need a token to denominate your relative share. Just to name a second example. Tokens allow for unique solutions that Bitcoin itself can not.


Whether or not those tokens will be on the Bitcoin blockchain or not is a completely different story.


Although it's clear that they will not exclusively be due to more specialized solutions in other places, e.g. Python wrappers on other chains that allow for much more streamlined data science solutions.

Sure, you could say that they could have implemented that same functionality on Bitcoin. But they chose not to.

If you don't like it go and implement it on Bitcoin yourself.

But stop pretending that everybody trying to create something is a scammer, this thread should know better than that.


Either way, if all of the thousands of projects were outright scams they would quickly self-destruct and disappear within a number of years after every last idiot got burnt, so why even care?



If you're too lazy to do your research or simply don't care that's alright. But you don't have to buy anything to learn about the future today. You can look at Tesla even if you hate electric cars and then proceed to realize that automation is coming and you can start imagining what that entails.


But the arguments against altcoins so far are riddled with ignorance and the same fundamentally flawed assumptions. They assume that everything is a Ripple (centralized shitty clone) or BitConnect (obvious 100% scam) tier scams.


Basically, every argument against altcoins in the past two days can be summed up with:

- Tesla is a scam because we already have cars
- Automation doesn't exist
- If it actually exists then just do it with old cars then everybody who dares do it on different types of cars is a scammer , never mind that they are the people putting in the hours. If it's not on old cars it's a scam that distracts from progress



1966. Post 51062942 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 15, 2019, 07:38:29 AM
Tokonormal.

How are competitors against Facebook  doing? Against Apple? Against Amazon? Against Netflix? Against Google?  Do you want to diversify into second tier versions of the FAANGs?

No you do not.  

They each completely dominate their market segment.  

As does Bitcoin.

Diversification is about picking the best of each market segment and buying a little of each.  It is not about chasing penny stocks.
Depends on the timeline. Pretty sure Google killed Yahoo. Netflix/YT killed TV. Amazon killed retailers. Apple killed BlackBerry. Facebook killed MySpace.

And I can blindly promise you that all of those will eventually be killed as well because of arrogance and unwillingness to change.


I have no doubt that Bitcoin will last for at least a hundred years at this point, perhaps much much longer because of our increasing lifespans. And I have no doubt that it will become the global default SoV and MoE and remain as such for a very long time. But as time goes on new problems arise.


But that's a different argument to mine (for alts and diversification) anyways. I'm not a fan of "herp derp look at me I'm faster because nobody uses me" cryptos. I only care about alts that are budding companies with unique utilization of tokens.



Quote from: kingcolex on May 15, 2019, 01:17:20 PM
I like altcoins I see them as experiments, if something truly amazing is developed on one we can bring it to Bitcoin. I do only hold Bitcoin and Ethereum though. Eth is the non currency side of crypto and Bitcoin the investment gold standard.
That's a fair point. I haven't considered transaction type shitcoins as experiments for future upgrades to Bitcoin itself.



1967. Post 51063194 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on May 15, 2019, 08:30:22 AM


Diversification is about picking the best of each market segment and buying a little of each.  It is not about chasing penny stocks.

Portfolio performance is only gained with a range of stocks from each sector. The lower caps will always be more volatile and some will outperform the dominant stock.

We are only talking investment intent and actions here, not fundamental value. Therefore investment is about chasing penny stocks , and medium cap stocks, just as much as big-cap stocks.

The sort of investors we are talking about see cryptos as stocks, so plenty of money will flow into alts, and many will outperform BTC (considering price alone)

You are confusing two separate concepts.  

Diversification is a risk reduction technique.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversification_(finance)

Portfolio optimization is about optimising a portfolio to achieve a specific objective (growth, income etc). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portfolio_optimization.

When you are saying ‘diversification’, you really mean portfolio optimization in a way that increases risk


If you want to optimize for high risk, high growth then chasing alts is the way to go. Don’t make the mistake of thinking this is diversification, because it’s not.
I don't know if that's what the wikipedia article says and if it is then it's absolutely retarded.

Say your portfolio has an expected return of 5%.

Now you buy some risky assets to add to your portfolio.

If that addition to your portfolio fails to increase your expected return beyond 5% you've failed to optimize your portfolio.

If it's equal you now have a more volatile portfolio, if it drops below 5% you've lowered your profitability. In both cases you have not optimized anything. So anyone who calls those cases portfolio optimization probably has a degree in Economics.

If you've indeed optimized your portfolio then your expected return has gone above 5%. Your portfolio may now have become more volatile depending on your relative exposition to those "risky assets", but you have not increased the risk. Unless you are talking about marginal probabilities, which would be nonsense considering that we are talking about an aggregate, a portfolio.



1968. Post 51063386 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.46h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 15, 2019, 08:56:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/tBTkIye.gif

First wanna thank you guys for the "for most massively" support coming from you guys (for the source application)

Also wanna thank all the members who are mainly in other sections as speculation or our "WO-thread"

Then every member will know the application was my words that I wanted to say, but the PERFECT English wasn't my exact writing, so XhomerX thanks for helping me out putting my words in that awesome text, I owe you a very big THANK YOU and most of respect, helping a member out how you did.

Then jojo said one time he wasn't really sending support cause members he talk with and are became sources are a little bit difficult for him, as he doesn't want to make a joke that comes of like merit begging, I been with you guys a very long period of time and I will not change for one F*** while being in here and, I know you guys in here so just be the same to me and don't give a F***

That been said the sun is shining on the terrace where i'm drinking a fresh ginger thea and a sparkling water, the price is 7915$ and BTC looks as beautiful as always

1BTC still = 1BTC so nothing changed Cheesy
Congrats on finally getting accepted!

Celebrate with a bottle of:




It's pretty sweet. Almost like a dessert wine or liqueur.



1969. Post 51141261 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 18, 2019, 07:37:28 PM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Gonna give whiskey another chance, which one should I take??

BTCMILLIONAIRE ??
I haven't tried any of those yet. Tongue

Way too late, but bourbons are generally milder and sweet.



1970. Post 51141701 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 19, 2019, 10:31:52 PM
Haven't watched commercial tv for eons...but I think I'll watch "60 Minutes" tonight.
Damn I can only see GOT tomorrow F*** disconnect news, twitter etc in the morning Roll Eyes
Better stay off the internet tonight, people are asholes.
The titanic sank.



1971. Post 51179587 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on May 23, 2019, 06:43:32 AM
Yesterday, we made an aromatic pizza  as a sign of memory.


Nice. Needs more merit.


Also, lol at Craig and the copyright office. Life's good.



1972. Post 51180564 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 23, 2019, 08:47:42 AM
Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.
Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  Grin

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!


I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  Wink
You pay indirectly by just living in Europe.

I've been browsing jobs out of pure boredom and possibly a tiny bit of FOMO. And for the exact same position I would earn around four times as much in the US in gross salary. With net salary the gap widens even further, in favour of the US.
Even if I'd take a $1000 per month health care plan I'd still come out more than 3.5x ahead in the US. Down to 2.5~3x if I picked an apartment close to the company in a place like California. This number at least doubles to triples further for countries that are not the UK, Germany, France etc.

It's no wonder that Europe lags behind in every regard when it punishes entrepreneurs and employees so hard for ambition that the only sensible financial move to make is leaving Europe to its demise. Good thing for Europe that most scientists don't care about their real value and work for slave wages that don't match their skill, otherwise there would be nothing left here.



1973. Post 51181909 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 23, 2019, 09:15:14 AM
Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.
Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  Grin

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!


I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  Wink
You pay indirectly by just living in Europe.

I've been browsing jobs out of pure boredom and possibly a tiny bit of FOMO. And for the exact same position I would earn around four times as much in the US in gross salary. With net salary the gap widens even further, in favour of the US.
Even if I'd take a $1000 per month health care plan I'd still come out more than 3.5x ahead in the US. Down to 2.5~3x if I picked an apartment close to the company in a place like California. This number at least doubles to triples further for countries that are not the UK, Germany, France etc.

It's no wonder that Europe lags behind in every regard when it punishes entrepreneurs and employees so hard for ambition that the only sensible financial move to make is leaving Europe to its demise. Good thing for Europe that most scientists don't care about their real value and work for slave wages that don't match their skill, otherwise there would be nothing left here.

But we don't have a retard like Trump as our POTUS and much less other retards with private weapons at home.
Grin
We have other retards as "leaders", not like those sock puppets matter. And I'd take Trump over 25-30% the income any day of the week. Not even a decade of that and you can retire in some cheap country off of the difference alone.

And as far as guns go, people are getting stabbed and shot left and right in the UK. Which begs the question.



1974. Post 51182970 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 23, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Fast forward 2021: trillion

I think that’s a real possibility
More like a given, at least if we go by maximum to date.



1975. Post 51182988 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.47h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 23, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
Fast forward 2021: trillion

I think that’s a real possibility
Only if USD has crashed insanely, 1btc being a trillion would be chaotic. Anyone who has done a faucet would be wealthy.
$1 Trillion market cap is like $70k per coin or something, too lazy to get the exact number.



1976. Post 51192050 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: infofront on May 23, 2019, 08:33:33 PM
On a semi serious note..just talking about things can be helpful for some. Hope you feel better soon.

I already do feel like a bit of a load is off, and seeing Bob and LFC open up first helped. I just need a more positive outlook I think.
You can actually "reprogram" yourself in away you want. It takes forever and it sounds cliche and feels retarded, but it works.

Brain constantly creates random thoughts based on your past, it's up to you to choose which you focus on or if you want to add others. What you focus on becomes a feedback loop that eventually turns "real".

I think the basic mechanism is the brain not wanting to do anything new actively, since that's expensive. To combat that it'll try to tell you that you "can't do it", "it's stupid", "pointless", "cringe", whatever it can throw at you so it can just keep the same old program on repeat.

Possibly also why people sometimes have to hit rock bottom only to then miraculously change.

Or why people believe that hyperwaves apply to everything because they already worked in the past.


Also, I'm not sure if depression is actually bad. It might be a mechanism that is supposed to get us to stop doing what isn't working and seek out new solutions.


Just random SOMA that may or may not be accurate. If I had to bet on it I would say it is to some degree, but I'm no neuroperson so I don't really know either way.


Anyway, best wishes.



1977. Post 51192063 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 23, 2019, 01:41:50 PM
The price is about $3k higher than it should be at this part of the cycle.   We are already higher than what the December 2019 peak should be. It’s all gravy.



Am I the only one kind of wishing their lives away until a point in the future, probably late 2021 or something?
Doubt it. I've been wanting a fast forward button for a while.

Although it's probably best that we don't have one, at least for as long as our life spans are limited.

Just imagine a bunch of people racing towards the end. Roll Eyes



1978. Post 51192092 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: gentlemand on May 23, 2019, 09:59:00 PM
It is BEST that we can do it alone! After this, you will become a higher level than yourself, and you will find that with your problems, you will always have to remain alone (this is a fact), but you will already be ready for this!
I think so.

Personally I find human beings a pain up the arse in all circumstances and if I was feeling down in the dumps the last thing I'd want is one sat in front of me attempting to empathise. I'd kick their head down the toilet and go off somewhere to be on my own.

Most people do not feel that way and that's fine.
I'm between LFC and you on this one. When I was depressed I'd very much prefer being alone. But when people appeared around me they wouldn't be able to tell.

Although I'm not sure if the situation would change if I was forced to be around people constantly with no means of retreat.



1979. Post 51192294 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Biodom on May 24, 2019, 04:01:21 AM
Ah, it's a number that I got in a calculation (for a projected scenario), not a coin that I may or may not have.

TL;DR: too high a price of bitcoin (in the multiple millions) will result in a drastic increase in global millionaire numbers (if hodlers do not sell en masse), which is unlikely, therefore the price in the multiple millions is unlikely.
My calculated upper bound price of btc that does not affect the total number of millionaires too much is about $1mil/btc.
You are missing a number of factors. There will be the first trillionaire not too long from now. The global population is steadily increasing. Global economy growing. Inflation isn't going to stop anytime soon. To name a few.

It's a given that the number of millionaires will grow by an order of magnitude within our lifetime. Heck, what even is a million these days? Unless you move to a shithole, or resign to a very modest life you won't really be getting anywhere.


How much of that money will land in Bitcoin is another story. But "too many millionaires" is not an argument against it. I don't see multi-million BTC as implausible in 2030-2050 and certainly not beyond.



Quote from: xhomerx10 on May 24, 2019, 03:58:55 AM


  Smiley

Sneaky sneaky.



1980. Post 51192940 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

I'm exaggerating a little of course. But $1m used to be "retire money". Now it's at best "you better watch out and don't become complacent" money in many places.


Of course one shouldn't forget the standards of living. Even in a "shithole" the food is worlds better than what kings used to dine on. I wouldn't want to live in any time preceding ours, regardless of money or status.



1981. Post 51194057 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Neo_Coin on May 24, 2019, 08:00:10 AM

FB/WApp money by the end of the year:   Shocked Shocked

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/05/24/facebook-and-whatsapp-break-cover-with-bitcoin-rival-plans/#5223f09b286e
"Bitcoin rival" what a joke.



1982. Post 51200830 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: hodl_2015 on May 24, 2019, 03:22:21 PM
BTW: starlink.com just went live.
Won't somebody please think of the poles?!



1983. Post 51226388 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: kingcolex on May 26, 2019, 03:03:04 AM
OT: Coming at ya from the "omg-really-you-don't-say" department.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The stock market would be much lower if it weren’t for companies buying back their own shares
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/25/the-stock-market-would-be-much-lower-if-it-werent-for-companies-buying-back-their-own-shares.html




Well to be fair a majority of every day stock buyers have zero fucking clue how the market works.
This hinges on the premise that the lack in demand through buy-backs would not lead to an increased demand due to the lower prices.

Article sounds like FUD aimed to further stress that "the stock market is due for a correction".

Wonder how much of this apparent incompetence in "research" and reporting is coordinated.



1984. Post 51262360 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: dyask on May 29, 2019, 06:59:00 AM
As someone that has some macro economics background and who is also married to a Japanese woman I'm going to ignore the profound stupidity presented in this thread.  

You completely ignored the fact (as I mention in my post above) that in a vacuum, if you allocate 50% of the resources to men and 50% to women, the male group is always going to vastly outperform the female group to the point where you can almost consider women holding any resources at all malinvestment for a civilization that's trying to compete against other civilizations.  Then factor in women have no interest in marrying men who are poorer than they are and you're self destructing your own civilization on purpose by trying to artificially rig some 'equitable' outcome.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't even pass a typical Japanese high school math entrance exam.   That isn't that high of a bar either.   It is a profoundly sad truth that idiots don't know they are idiots. 
You might want to be very very careful with your assertion if all you can and feel like doing is throwing around personal attacks.

We joke about "economics backgrounds" in the same manner you just did by the way.

Economics is one of the biggest Dunning Kruger circle jerks humanity has brought forth so far. Your Nobel prizes are sub-sections of individual questions in multi-question weekly undergraduate assignments in real sciences.


Of course there are some, very few, Economists that are worth their salt. But they're so rare that they might as well be unicorns.



1985. Post 51265536 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: dyask on May 29, 2019, 08:30:00 AM
I like how you ignored me with a nice long response full of virtue signaling. Good going smart one. Stupid is to think Japan and its ridiculous money printing hasnt had terrible consequences for the birth rate of the nation. Having all your women in pantsuits and pursuing careers instead of giving birth can be awesome for the economy for a little while, but then demographics kick in and you have a nation of retired old people with no kids.

https://i.imgur.com/2q4jzUx.png

If the blowjob jokes got you butthurt then maybe lighten up a bit, its not that serious.  Wink

You are only showing how little you know about Japan.   It has been insanely hard for most women in Japan to work more than a few years and that is still mostly true.   The declining birthrate isn't from woman working in Japan.   The workplace in Japan is only slowly opening up to women.   While there have always been some career women in Japan, on a percent basis it has been very low.  Most women only work a few years at most and stop as soon as they marry.  

In fact the declining birthrate in Japan shows the failure of sexism in the modern world.

PS. No butthurt here ... the vulgar comments only show extremely low IQs.   
People like you are why I quit Economics and left for places with substance. I can't thank you enough.



1986. Post 51275368 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Ibian on May 29, 2019, 08:54:07 PM
Wait. Are people who like soft bacon better or worse than people who do not like bacon at all?
Better. There are places for soft bacon. Especially when they're thick chunks in a strong broth.

Bacon strips however must be crispy.



1987. Post 51275381 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 29, 2019, 08:55:31 PM
If you like your bacon soft, like ham I’m going to have to suggest the feds confiscate your computer & check your hard drive for child porn. I don’t trust anybody who likes their bacon soft. Definite weirdo sign!

I did always hate the FAT on meat especially with bacon, and those that eat it grows ....
I used to hate fat and always cut it off everywhere. But that was until I found out that fat isn't supposed to be a chewy rubbery piece of shit and can be juicy and tender.



1988. Post 51275415 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: jbreher on May 29, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
do you eat horse bacon?

You had my interest, now you have my attention.

I have never tried it but now I don't know if I can hold out another day without knowing the taste... Is it good?

My first visit to Japan, co-workers took me out for a proper night of Japanese co-worker carousing. Was enjoying plenty yummy foods, along with the free-flowing beers, sakes, and highballs. I think they got on a wink-wink tack of 'freak out the foreigner'. Food got odder and odder. No problem. At horse sushi, several others begged off.

Wasn't bad at all. Must have been colt.
Horse sushi was interesting. The meat part was nice, the fat wasn't my thing. Raw chicken was surprisingly good too. And tuna with raw egg yolk. Was grossed out at first then got addicted to the latter.

Not sure I could get into all those grilled intestines though.



1989. Post 51275446 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on May 29, 2019, 09:43:04 PM
Ok just cause y'all bacon enthusiasts ..... I have to say some of my days of eating that....


I loved my bacon thin and crispy AF coming with some goat cheese and honey or something, gonna need to watch myself for not switching back to tha meat Roll Eyes

Goose, do you ever wonder if life is too short to deny yourself the pleasures of meat? At least have some meat with your WO friends to celebrate at the 100k party next month Cheesy
Just source it from proper places and there's no problem with it. None of us would exist today if not for countless species eating each other for all of time.

And if everybody goes vegan/vegetarian instead of supporting farmers who care for animal welfare (or a few years from now cultured meat) things will take much longer to improve.



1990. Post 51277409 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Time to play around with gin. Does anybody know which of the Fever Trees pairs with Roku? Are there any synergistic combos or should I just get all?



Quote from: d_eddie on May 30, 2019, 03:35:23 AM
I only ate raw chicken gizzards and similar 'delicacies' because of a bet. Not charming at all.
The right cut of raw horse is very tasty IMO, but I only had it twice.
Grilled intestines of several animals are quite popular worldwide. I've eaten such delicacies in different countries. Even gizzards: if properly seared or grilled, they are a peculiar treat.
I feel strongly repulsed by innards for some reason, don't like bones in my meat either. But I'm willing to eventually experiment some.

Used to hate mushrooms and other stuff and can eat them now. Still not particularly interested in them, but at least they don't make me gag anymore. And if people are already eating that stuff anyways there have to be some tasty treats that I've been missing out on. Perhaps during my next trip.



1991. Post 51277458 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on May 30, 2019, 05:28:27 AM
I think anyone who likes their meat overcooked is a closet vegetarian. That includes bacon.

While I don't require my bacon to be bleeding Pittsburgh blue like my rib eyes and filet mignons, it should  at least be chewy, preferably nice and tender.

Brittle? That's a sacrilege. Want crispy foods? Go fry some tofu, potatoes or tortillas. Or eat celery and carrot sticks
Whenever I cook with mince I eat a good portion of it raw. And I still love my crispy bacon. The char has something unique that juicy bacon doesn't offer. Time and place kind of thing.

Also, I'm generally not into chewy food. I hate squid and octopus for that reason, although the taste is fine (marinated tender octopus is a treat).



1992. Post 51277530 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.48h):

What the fuck did you ingest?



1993. Post 51411684 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.50h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on June 04, 2019, 11:13:00 AM
4th Juni, Bday Hat.....
Thx Cryptoqueeen, my true love!
Now Azurmendi.

Another year F***!!
Time flies and life is too short.
Bon appetit, cheers.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

via Imgflip Meme Generator

^
Gonna start the Bday Pick Nick Cheesy

Meanwhile GoGoGo Bitcoin!!
Happy late birthday!



1994. Post 51576394 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: bitserve on June 23, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
my 2c about bitcoin and [helping] children.

IMHO, parents should help children achieve what they want to achieve and that's it.
Practically: get them into the best pre-school and school that you can manage/afford, guide their learning and sports activities (in balance), never deny them what they ask as far as education goes (museums, trips, etc.).
I also think that parents should pay as close to 100% of educational expenses (including college) as possible.

After this, the only way I see myself helping is a house downpayment (in expensive cities).
They have to be able to be independent, not rely on trust funds, even if your btc winnings would allow for this in a few years.
Later on, they will get their inheritance, but, hopefully, they would be ready for it then.

More important (but complementary) than official education is how you prepare them to manage financial resources (their income and capital), more so if some day they will get a substantial heritage. But to learn how to do that they really need to actually do it and that is hard to do without ANY capital to manage. So maybe set up practical lessons give them the resources to do it and clearly establish objectives, etc... and go on gradually increasing the challenges?

I have seen so many "successful" people with HUGE salaries that are far from being *wealthy* because of lack of financial education. They will always be "poor". And their children won't know any better with that example.

Blah, anyways, I don't ever plan to have children so why do I even care lol
It's not as much financial education as it is self-responsibility.

If people took their lives into their own hands nobody would be whining over salaries since they would understand that even the smallest salary is a leap towards a better future.

So responsibility for one's fate would lead to either complete content in a simple lifestyle or to a wealthy future of the individual in question.

The moment a critical mass of people understands this will be the very same moment humanity makes leaps and bounds as never seen before, since those who prefer simple lifestyles will cheer for those who push forward into the beyond of every human frontier.
And that in turn will encourage people to determine goals that are more in-line with everybody's dreams and wishes as opposed to shitting some extra digits at the end of one's net worth.


Also, this may be completely off-topic. But damn, Bitcorn goes fast when it goes.



1995. Post 51576411 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: realsteelboy on June 23, 2019, 06:47:38 PM
How to manage finances and mental health are the two subjects that should be taught in every school.

So many people have no idea on either
Both deteriorate when you stop being a child and start learning "how to behave in the 'real' world".


A kid looks for all possibilities that it can possibly imagine. Then picks the best for themselves. The older they get the more they lose this ability because of dysfunctional education and become slaves to dysfunctional norms.

If you let them be with only minor directions and hints (when they ask for them) the more competent they will become. If you look for all possibilities naturally you will never stop learning and improving. Once you start trying to conform to what is "right" and "wrong" you become an unhappy, miserable and stuck-in-place cog.



1996. Post 51649685 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: realr0ach on June 29, 2019, 02:45:47 AM
Good news-it would mean unbelievable prices ahead (300K-500K)

You braindead, idiot scammers in this thread have NEVER once explained how the price of Bitcoin can go to $500k or even $50k while cost of production is $3-6k.
Velocity of money.



1997. Post 51685461 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 01, 2019, 07:56:44 AM
Why does the crypto world seem to be infested with more than its fair share of alt-right loons?

Could it be that the leftie-loons consider anybody normal an alt-right loon?

^This!

If “normal” is being an incel and celebrating Hitler’s birthday, then yes.  

- Your resident leftie loon
Weren't incels distributed pretty much identically across the political spectrum? Or are cucks a predominantly lefty thing?


By the way, am I the only one unimpressed with the weak roller-coaster? wen moon wen lambo



1998. Post 51685506 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on July 01, 2019, 12:40:25 PM
Sheeit. Looks like we're going to be testing $10,5 within the hour. What a crappy way to start the week. El dumperino  Undecided
Ten fiddy? Stop teasing us like that.



1999. Post 51685640 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on July 01, 2019, 10:31:58 PM
what's this DefaultTrust stuff all about? Huh

my default trust setting in cryptoverse is trust fucking no-one ... seen so many scams and well-intentioned fuck-ups to learn to stay well clear.
Trust me. Capitalism is bad. Also, send me all your money.



2000. Post 51685780 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 02, 2019, 02:36:14 AM
Why does the crypto world seem to be infested with more than its fair share of alt-right loons?

Could it be that the leftie-loons consider anybody normal an alt-right loon?

^This!

If “normal” is being an incel and celebrating Hitler’s birthday, then yes.  

- Your resident leftie loon

Is that what you think normal people do?
HairyMaclairy is a dweeb, the truth is that Bitcoin has a lot of people who are small government and want the people to be able to control their funds. That is a conservative and right wing view. Now why would you want crypto to succeed if you're a liberal and want government control in everything? It doesn't make sense.

and of course with a community so big now you'll get some crazies.

Do you agree that Trump should be elected president for life?
I actually don't see an issue with long-term presidencies as long as proper checks and balances are installed beforehand.

In fact, lots of political horseshit boils down to either lifelong leaders being able to do whatever they want (China) or short-term leaders having zero incentive to think long-term (Western democracies).

Rather than one "lifetime" election there should just be an option for re-election beyond a second term though. That might already be enough "checks and balances".

Although, with a population this short-sighted there probably still won't be sufficient incentive in thinking long-term, since people are clearly too incompetent to anticipate anything beyond a fat sow's jump.



2001. Post 51702518 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 03, 2019, 08:54:41 PM
London financial pages tonight




Propaganda watchdog, DireWolfM14 warns that News Papers are not the unbiased, fair, and honest information delivery medium many assume them to be.  Most people today still believe that news outlets which deliver information through the use of paper products are trustworthy.  Studies by watchdog DireWolfM14 suggest, like their digital cousins these publications are wrought with bias, misinformation, omissions, and in some cases demonstrable lies.  "It's a tragedy that these organizations aren't held accountable for misleading people," DireWolfM14 stated in a recent interview.  "The fact that they can omit relevant information from a news story allows them the steer a certain narrative, and promote bias within their readership, a bias that may not develop if the readers were well informed."

When asked to provide a specific example DireWolfM14 was quoted as saying "Just pick up any news paper that has written an article or Op-Ed about bitcoin, and I'll prove to you the reporter is a shithead who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground."

In all fairness, try being the poor sucker journalist that has to write sensibly about Arsenal’s latest match, the Spratly islands, methamphetamine addiction in Bromley, the new All-New Ford Kuga, whisky tasting and Bitcoin.   And then be judged by experts in each area.

Shit is hard yo.  
Very simple solution. Print and clearly declare opinions of people from as many sides as you can identify and sensibly fit into an article. If you still feel like commenting afterwards you can do so at the end of the article. Anything else is bullshit and not journalism.

So if someone's getting shit for writing crap he's getting it in all fairness for being a journalistic failure.



2002. Post 51714517 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 05, 2019, 06:42:29 AM
$6,790.  Just enough to make everyone poo their pants.  Then massive green dildo.  
If you want me to poo my pants any more than usual you'll have to add another zero.



2003. Post 51753831 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: sirazimuth on July 07, 2019, 10:25:27 PM
Some traits  of a  true wall observer .... (credit to vb1001 posted meme for inspiring this post )
 
- never admit to owning shitcoins
- never reveal # btc held (hints are allowed, but discouraged...stay humble)
- always hate on bch
- and  csw (and ver, and that bitmain dude....and bitmain, ftm)
- legendary status (preferred but not required)
- minimum 200 non-airdropped merits (preferred but not required)
- always hate on Coinbase
- and yogi
- no homo
- mic is your friend
- right wing (unless you are Hairy... then its cool)
- know that  jjg...tl;dr wears out scroll wheel
- mentioning the thread troll
- perma bull
- overuse of the term "hodl"
- and "filthy fiat"
- and "100k party" (never admit to suspecting that maybe fantasy)
- play or played in a band
- oh yeah...almost forgot...
 ......gotta have a hat.

feel free to add to list wo bros....
Merit airdrops, where?
Can I pay my rent with them?
Or still no lambo?


Also, how dare you even imply 100k to be maybe fantasy? Guess you're no true WO then. Skipped the haikus too.



2004. Post 51753956 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Quote from: JSRAW on July 08, 2019, 06:23:42 AM
Anyone need kidney?  Roll Eyes

"There are no excuses to be a nocoiner.

The biggest-ticket organ you can legally sell in the U.S. is your heart: They're going for a cool $1 million. Livers come in second, worth about $557,000 and kidneys fetch about $262,000 each.

That's like 200 BTC right there.
"

https://twitter.com/CryptoBull/status/1146115603469623296
We're on the edge of printing organs like toilet paper, so selling a kidney might not be the dumbest idea for younger folks.



2005. Post 51859984 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 17, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
Don’t worry about B1tUnl0ck3r

He had an unfortunate incident with the CIA and a tub of butter.  He hasn’t been the same since.


You will be fine. 
What incident involves a tub of butter? Did it involve a microwave and N64 games?



2006. Post 51916560 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):




Thread continues.

https://twitter.com/Halalcoholism/status/1152490445760421888?s=20



2007. Post 52238725 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Ibian on August 22, 2019, 01:52:51 PM
My bank continues to crack down on me. Just got a call that I can't withdraw my money from kraken to my bank account anymore.

As annoying as this is, it's also good news. If they didn't think bitcoin mattered they wouldn't bother. I'll just have to do all my business in person, maybe use the occasional atm.

In which country are you having this problem. (I intend to use Kraken to withdraw too in the future)
Denmark.
Fuck DenmarkNew season soon.



2008. Post 52238746 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Ibian on August 22, 2019, 05:54:21 PM
My bank continues to crack down on me. Just got a call that I can't withdraw my money from kraken to my bank account anymore.

As annoying as this is, it's also good news. If they didn't think bitcoin mattered they wouldn't bother. I'll just have to do all my business in person, maybe use the occasional atm.

Easy solution: stop using banks.
Looks like that will have to happen. If I can start buying plane tickets with bitcoin then at this point all I need them for is to pay my cell phone bill. And my family can handle that from another account.
Has Expedia removed Bitcoin payments?

Edit: Looks like it has.



2009. Post 52254696 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: SuperTA on August 24, 2019, 11:05:55 AM
https://www.atr.org/biden-capital-gains-tax-we-should-raise-tax-back-396-percent?amp

Biden made the remarks on Wednesday, August 21 during an interview with Iowa Public Television:

“I believe we should, in fact, the capital gains tax should be at what the highest minimum tax should be, we should raise the tax back to 39.6 percent instead of 20 percent,”

"Households subject to Obamacare’s 3.8 percent Net Income Investment Tax end up paying a 23.8% rate. And under Biden’s cap gains scheme, such households will face a 43.4 percent rate."

I dont think anyone brought this up yet on WO, and the media has hardly discussed it, but this is some serious shit if you are an American Bitcoiner like me. This would seriously affect my wealth when I cash out coins at key numbers like 100k and 1 million.  Trump is "no fan of Bitcoin", but holy shit, at least he would never double my tax rate.

My future ex Tulsi is out of the upcoming debate so Yang is the next best (ultra slim) hope for a true Crypto friendly candidate. Any tax crazy lefty gets nominated and Im team Trump. Mayor Pete I would predict is unlikely to make a major tax hike so he wouldnt be to bad for a dem nominee. Luckily after watching most of Grandpa Joe's interviews and debates I can confidently say that he has early dementia setting in fast and his brain would turn to mush in a grueling election. Hillary's past stumbling and feinting on the election trail looks competent to what Joe is starting to manifest.

TLDR: Fuck Grandpa Joe.

Bitcoin is the true candidate for 2020, everyone else is a pretender.
There are many countries you could move your residence adress to. We gave you a list of alternative countries with no tax and many commented about their country tax situation. So if you have 1 million, there shouldn't be a big problem for you.
The US taxes global income.



2010. Post 52254743 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on August 24, 2019, 12:56:38 PM
Yeah no big problem, I can pickup a new language and build a new life for myself in just a week or two. Thanks buddy, what was I thinking Roll Eyes

That’s pussyfoot talk.  If you aren’t agile, you are a sitting duck.  

Meh to me it would be pussyfooting to leave your home and people behind bc some gibbering dementia patient is trying to steal your money. I understand the agile sentiment, and I could move to another country with ease, but I dont typically look to run from problems anyway. Also some of the countries on that list look to be a few regulatory clarifications away from taxing crypto, PR is not a country and as Jbreher said not tax free for Crypto, and Liberland is a joke.

Hopefully Republicans maintain control of at least one branch and this doubling of cap gains never happens. If it does happen I would sell all coins and realize profits, pay taxes, then buy most of the coins back at a new cost basis before the law went into effect. This would alleviate a lot of the problem, then Id have to consider my options.




I would agree with your position if it was as you described. In reality however, that gibbering dementia patient is highly calculated and is stealing your money, rather than just trying to.



2011. Post 52255183 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.59h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on August 24, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
I think Carney really just wants to make Bitcoin the Global Reserve, he just brought up "Libra-like" as a Trojan Horse.  His Corn bags are full of course.  Cool

derp derp


Roach, I found your mom for you. If you are wondering what she has been doing, she is running for City Council

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/24/this-city-wanted-be-welcoming-then-candidate-vowed-keep-marysville-white-community/?noredirect=on

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDe-QQW2kqQ

This video is well worth a watch, the way the reporters interact with her is hilarious.

The hypocrisy in the comments is quite astounding, although not at all surprising.

Marrying within a group is a common theme among many demographics, including (parts of) Jews, Muslims and Mormons among others.

Just goes to show how many people on all sides just want to hate more than anything else. The more I watch people's behaviours the more just the world appears.



2012. Post 52798890 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 12:35:25 PM
Sounds good I only see CBD which seems to undermine the point of it for me

What is wrong with CBD on its own ? I've learned to enjoy the "body-relaxing" qualities, that leave me clear-headed.

I’m sure CBD is fine. The THC oil is like some kind of mushroom or acid trip, never ingesting it again man. I have 5 bottles though, might use it on my skin or in the bath or something.
You could probably also use it to make your own edibles (depending on what exactly your oil contains). Concentrates make for fairly easy pinpoint dosing.


Also, lol at Satoshi plagiarizing TheRealSatoshiTM.



2013. Post 52822805 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

What an album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTYZVgSrQJs



2014. Post 52823163 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 20, 2019, 10:13:39 PM

I had a quick listen on headphones, i also have been a fan of Primus since two dozen years, btw.
The music is great, but it's likely better to listen to the album as a whole on stereo speakers.
I have used a pair of beyerdynamic dt-770 pro, no equalizer or whatsoever effects on my notebook's main analog out.
It was pretty exhausting to listen to the pinpoint-like separation of instruments and voices, in stereo placement as well as frequency spectrum and "room" definition, and also slightly glassy quality of the overall sound. This might sound really good on tube amps/speakers that add plenty of "glue" to audio material. I'll have to listen to it again on my analog stereo, but the kids are sleeping.

Thanks for the link.
(out of merit)


Keep in mind that Youtube is crap for hifi.

I have a lossless version that sounds stellar with decent headphones and a headphone amp. Can easily discern all instruments and effects with no effort and can properly sense the spatial placements of the sounds as well.

Though of course if your stereo setup beats your headphone setup you'll enjoy it through that much more. I'd recommend getting the album or checking out TPB for flacs.


Definitely second listening through the whole album in one go though. That's how prog rock albums are meant to be listened to anyways, for a good reason.

They're more like movies for your ears than songs.



2015. Post 52823180 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.05h):

Quote from: fillippone on October 20, 2019, 10:33:58 PM


https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm/status/1185820129336201216?s=21

You can actually shuffle a deck of 52 cards into 53 cards. It's called Banach Tarski's Paradox.

Assuming your cards are null sets that is.



2016. Post 53189226 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on November 25, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
You've been playing too much WoW, Bob.

Coincidentally, I recently deleted my 18+ year old account over the China bullshit. No longer supporting Blizzard/Activision. At all.
God bless. Or spaghetti. Same difference. Either way, the only right move by any standard.



2017. Post 53260840 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.08h):

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 02, 2019, 05:10:23 AM
All you have are pictures and symbols Roach.

Since you also undoubtedly believe in the c02 trace gas doomsday hoax also:

Zero evidence of c02-induced climate change

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf

But I could have told you that without the pdf since carbon taxes were basically an Enron boardroom scam from the start.

So you are putting words in my mouth now? Is that your strategy? Strawman arguments? Thats the best you can do when backed up into a corner?

Also that paper is not peer reviewed. I asked you for peer reviewed papers when presenting evidence. Only six references are mentioned in this document, four of which were written by the authors themselves and two of which were not published at all. No sources whatsoever. This would not even be passable as a bachelors thesis. Try harder.

I am done with both of you idiots unless I see you post actual peer reviewed papers that back your arguments up.


You're putting an irrational amount of weight on peer review and science.
Lots of science today is just career academia and not science whatsoever. It's also a highly indisputable fact that you have to tickle the right balls to get funding in academia, unless you're doing basic research that can't in any way be used to drive political or corporate narratives.

Furthermore, it's also a well established fact that Physics has only access to some 95% of what they currently believe to be making up the universe.
And even the remaining 5% is quite poorly understood.

Hence, any argument asserting that "X is a fairy tale/conspiracy/whatever because there's no peer reviewed paper" is inherently unscientific, irrational, and in fact deeply dangerous to actual progress. Indeed it is no more than religious dogma in a different form.



2018. Post 53944211 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

So who else thinks markets (stocks) might be crashing more because of the election than because of corona, with corona just sparking the sell-off?
If Trump somehow did not manage to get re-elected things would be looking pretty bad for the economy.

Not that Sanders would manage to get anything passed that would raise spending by $100 Trillion USD, which by the way is way more than the $83 Trillion of the M3 supply of the entire planet, but he'd still be a significant downgrade that would devastate the markets.

Potential long opportunity come November?


Quote from: jbreher on March 01, 2020, 05:52:52 PM
There is very little left for Bitcoin Halving, and the world with a developing Fundamental like Coronavirus, gold loses 7%, great opportunity to buy and Hodl now more than ever.

Quote
#Bitcoin  halving 2 months to go .. 2 more blue dots, then REDCohete

For new followers:
- Original S2F model article (22/3/2019):
https://medium.com/@100trillionUSD/modeling-bitcoins-value-with-scarcity-91fa0fc03e25
- S2F model and EMH article (17/1/2020):
https://medium.com/@100trillionUSD/efficient-market-hypothesis-and-bitcoin-stock-to-flow-model-db17f40e6107


Source: https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1234105954930741250
So you really think bitcoin will reach $100k this year or the next one?  Shocked You're serious?  Cheesy

Would not astonish me.
Next year looks more than reasonable, this year not impossible.



2019. Post 53949196 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:42:51 AM
Volatility absolutely equals risk.
No, it most certainly does not.
If you had a constant upward trajectory with a slope of p, then any "constant" (e.g. predictable) form of volatility around that trajectory would provide a 100% risk-free and arbitrarily volatile long-term investment with an expected positive annual return of p.

In other words, volatility can but need not be a factor in risk.



2020. Post 53949204 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Lambie Slayer on March 02, 2020, 01:43:50 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/01/awaiting-us-stock-futures-open-at-6-pm-after-wall-streets-worst-week-since-2008.html


COVBULL-19 at it again.


Stock futures down, setting up the 8th consecutive down day. Bitcoin the Global Safe Haven Supreme is up almost 4 percent.

Once the Stock Boyz start to catch on to our superior store of value attributes the pumping will be mind boggling.

 
All I want is a massive crypto bull run parallel to a massive stock crash. Then flip things around shortly after.



2021. Post 53949218 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Lucius on March 02, 2020, 11:26:17 AM

Source
A brief history lesson. Hitler and Stalin breathed oxygen.
Trump breathes oxygen. Want to guess what happens next?

In other words, this is retarded.



2022. Post 53949545 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 02:27:46 PM
If 'ifs' and 'and' were pots and pans, well, guess what happens next.
Irrelevant to the argument. I was giving you an example of a volatile investment with negative risk to show to you that your understanding of volatility is wrong.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 02:27:46 PM
Again, a "constant upward trajectory" creates zero volatility.
Reading comprehension.
I was never talking about "constant upward trajectory", but about "constant upward trajectory with volatility around the trajectory"; or in other words random deviations from the trajectory. In the long-term volatility is very often irrelevant, in the short term it may, but need not necessarily increase risk.

Volatility, in essence, is nothing but a random oscillation around a potentially unknown trajectory.
This, again, means that you can have assets of arbitrary volatility that fall into all three categories of: 1.) negative risk 2.) positive risk and 3.) neutral risk.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 02:27:46 PM
If you are a long-term trader, then sure, the overall trend of bitcoin has been up, but that does not mean that it completely lacks volatility and risk.
Bitcoin is just one of a countless number of assets and has no relevance to the definition of volatility.
It may serve as an example for an asset with high volatility and negative risk (e.g. an expected long-term return greater zero) that may, despite having a positive expected return, still reduce your capital to ashes; which makes it a rather interesting case.
But that does not imply that all volatile assets are risky.



2023. Post 53949838 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
Is the trajectory constant or not? You are employing a loose definition of the word "constant" to make your case here. Within the "random deviations from the trajectory" could exist several other trajectories, depending on what span of time we're talking about. Within the cluster of those sub-trajectories exists risk if you are a shorter-term trader.

You didn't even know the trajectory was upward until after it had taken place, so to say it was a "risk free" investment is a statement made after the fact, and basically meaningless. Its like making a prediction on 2015's price of bitcoin in 2020. Sure, after the fact, we can say that the overall trajectory was up, and there existed a lot of volatility in the middle. But nobody knew it was a risk-free investment in 2015.
I'm starting to feel like you're trolling me now. What part about "a constant trajectory around which the price oscillates" do you not understand?

Not even going to address the rest of the post until we've established why you refuse to understand this and keep repeating the same wrong thing over and over even when it's pointed out to you.

"Volatility, in essence, is nothing but a random oscillation around a potentially unknown trajectory."



2024. Post 53950217 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 02, 2020, 04:29:26 PM
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Welcome back Cool
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2025. Post 53950388 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Is the trajectory constant or not? You are employing a loose definition of the word "constant" to make your case here. Within the "random deviations from the trajectory" could exist several other trajectories, depending on what span of time we're talking about. Within the cluster of those sub-trajectories exists risk if you are a shorter-term trader.

You didn't even know the trajectory was upward until after it had taken place, so to say it was a "risk free" investment is a statement made after the fact, and basically meaningless. Its like making a prediction on 2015's price of bitcoin in 2020. Sure, after the fact, we can say that the overall trajectory was up, and there existed a lot of volatility in the middle. But nobody knew it was a risk-free investment in 2015.
I'm starting to feel like you're trolling me now. What part about "a constant trajectory around which the price oscillates" do you not understand?

Not even going to address the rest of the post until we've established why you refuse to understand this and keep repeating the same wrong thing over and over even when it's pointed out to you.

"Volatility, in essence, is nothing but a random oscillation around a potentially unknown trajectory."
You're talking about a moving average
I am not talking about any moving averages. You could compute them for my example, but they're not relevant to the argument.

Your argument was that volatility is equivalent to risk, which is generally wrong. Neither contains much, if any, information about the other.

To show to you that this is not the case I've tried to give you examples of assets that directly contradict your assertion.

In the 'basket of all stocks' you have no risk in the long-term, because your expected loss (= risk) is strictly negative and hence your expected return is strictly positive, because the realized total return converges towards 10% p.a. (in the case of the US stock market) over time.
Despite that, the asset itself has been volatile. Hence, volatility does not imply anything about risk nor vice versa. The only thing that matters for risk is your strategy and nothing else.

You can have a perpetually flat asset with high risk, or you can have highly volatile assets without any risk (Bitcoin - which does not mean that you are guaranteed to make money).

You can get volatility and risk in any combination and neither implies the other.

You are probably conflating risk and actual returns. Risk is a statistical measure, e.g. the expected loss of a strategy, asset or portfolio.
Just like the expected value of a dice roll is 3.5 = 1/6 times sum of all potential results.
With risk the results are potential price trajectories in the market and the probabilities are obviously different and depend on all sorts of parameters.
Realized returns on the other hand are what you end up with in reality, and while risk can give you an idea of a region that you'll land in, it'll never tell you what will really happen for individual 'games'.


Here's another attempt to make the point clear.
Assume you have volatility but it's always the same. Basically, your price follows a 100% predictable pattern no matter how many people buy or sell. In that case you have volatility, but 100% insight and hence can generate profits without any risk whatsoever.
Obviously this isn't going to happen in real markets (though it does in many games), but it should be sufficiently illustrative to show that volatility and risk aren't related.



2026. Post 53950562 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: El duderino_ on March 02, 2020, 05:38:21 PM


who's jam would this be
Depends on how good/bad it would be for my back.



2027. Post 53951507 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Risk is a statistical measure, e.g. the expected loss of a strategy, asset or portfolio.

Not quite. Its the probability that a gain or a loss will differ significantly from what is expected.
Look, I hate to be that guy, but I've got a PhD in Mathematical Statistics. This stuff is my bread and butter. If you've got questions I'll be happy to try and answer them. But I'm not going to argue about basic definitions.

The definition of risk in finance is and always has been the expected loss with regard to some measure, or in other words: the expected value (or integral) of some loss function that is defined by your strategy. This is not a probability, it's a value. A value which can be positive, negative or zero to indicate respectively the average loss, profit or no change over many repetitions of the same strategy.

The probability that returns deviate from expectation can be measured in different ways, but none of those is what is understood as "risk" in this field.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Okay, I'm willing to concede that they do not imply one another 100% of the time, but as a general rule of thumb, they do.
No, they do not. Risk exclusively a measure of your proposed strategy. Volatility is a market phenomenon that does not in any way depend on your strategy.




Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Yes, you are. The asset doesn't move perfectly fitted to a "constant trajectory," you said so yourself. A rocket moves at a "constant trajectory." Stocks don't - not even fictitious examples of stocks - unless they completely lack volatility. In your example, you can only be talking about the trajectory of a price as being defined by its moving average. If its not, its not "constant."
No, I'm still not talking about moving averages and you are still completely misrepresenting what I've said.

To cut it short, it was probably my bad for assuming you weren't, but you're clearly just using terms very loosely and with a naive colloquial understanding as opposed to their actual definitions.

If you're not going to do anything with these things that's fine I suppose. But you should still be aware of your misunderstanding of the subject.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Your argument was that volatility is equivalent to risk, which is generally wrong. Neither contains much, if any, information about the other.

Perhaps I shouldn't have used an equal sign to imply that the two are strongly correlated (which they are). They are indeed not equivalents of each other and do not possess the same definition.
No, they still aren't strongly correlated. The level of correlation depends exclusively on your strategy, capacity, and infrastructure and not on the volatility. They have virtually nothing to do with each other.

You can by the way have two different definitions or objects that are equivalent to each other.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
To show to you that this is not the case I've tried to give you examples of assets that directly contradict your assertion.

You gave me an example of an asset that doesn't exist.
It's called an academic example. Which is more than fit to illustrate points about an already abstract field like finance.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
In the 'basket of all stocks' you have no risk in the long-term, because your expected loss (= risk) is strictly negative and hence your expected return is strictly positive, because the realized total return converges towards 10% p.a. (in the case of the US stock market) over time.
Despite that, the asset itself has been volatile. Hence, volatility does not imply anything about risk nor vice versa. The only thing that matters for risk is your strategy and nothing else.

That's a classic example of an average risk, average volatility asset. Its a benchmark for both risk and volatility. You're proving my point for me.
No, I'm not. Risk and volatility are not equivalent and in fact not even correlated until an individual, specific strategy introduces correlation.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
You can have a perpetually flat asset with high risk, or you can have highly volatile assets without any risk (Bitcoin - which does not mean that you are guaranteed to make money).

No, you can't. "Perpetually flat asset" implies zero volatility and zero risk. How do you lose money on something whose value never changes?

And saying bitcoin has no risk is absurd. Does anybody else feel like bitcoin is a "risk-free" investment?
Yes, you can. You can have a company that doesn't ever grow, returns the same dividends and keeps the same asset value. Until an asteroid wipes it out of existence and reduces it to zero.

As I've already said, in finance the risk of a strategy (e.g. "buy Bitcoin") is the expected loss of that strategy. This is a statistical measure. And because Bitcoin's potential returns are so extreme this becomes an example of an asset with negative risk, e.g. expected returns, despite not guaranteeing any profit.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
Just like the expected value of a dice roll is 3.5 = 1/6 times sum of all potential results.

Not trying to troll you but this is a horrible example as you can never roll a "3.5" -- that would be a highly unexpected outcome.
Good, that's why this makes a perfect example if you actually want to understand what's going on.

Quote from: nutildah on March 02, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
If your best real-world example of an asset that has high volatility and "no risk" is bitcoin, I'm going to stick by my original assertion that you are just looking at this from an after-the-fact standpoint.
See the dice example. I'm not. Risk is a "before-the-fact" measure.



2028. Post 53951519 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 02, 2020, 08:51:18 PM
yeah

I ain't waiting around for no goddamned government cheese
Government makes the best cheese in the world.



2029. Post 53951609 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 02, 2020, 09:03:11 PM
Why are people stocking up on food anyway? this is not that kind of event. A solar storm or EMP that knocks out all electronics would be that kind of event.

It's not like the government would leave you to starve to death if you are quarantined, either the military would organize handing out of food or they would organize some kind of mobile groceries van or something like that.
It would make sense to have food for a couple of days before everything gets organized, but that's all.

I mean if we can get food and water to people and areas that are totally snowed in in the winter, I think we can handle this.
Because everyone else is doing it. The biggest problem is not the virus itself, but herds of stupid people panicking. And if it turns out you didn't need to stock up, just eat the food anyway.
There was a corona lockdown very close to where I live. Wonder what stores look like around here, been too lazy to go and check so far.



2030. Post 53959497 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: d_eddie on March 03, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Risk is a statistical measure, e.g. the expected loss of a strategy, asset or portfolio.

Not quite. Its the probability that a gain or a loss will differ significantly from what is expected.

This debate caught my interest, so I've looked through Wikipedia and glanced through Investopedia, but I haven't found an unequivocal statement about risk being a probability (pure number) or an expectation (currency units). No clear cut equation anywhere. Some pages say only downside enters the calculation, which would make a negative outcome impossible.

As a layman, I'm left thinking that the unqualified term 'risk' isn't well suited to numerical discussion. Other more precisely defined quantities might be better for that.

See e.g. here under "Expected Loss". Shows the general definition of risk and shows some particular examples such as quadratic loss, or MSE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_function

This is pretty much canon in Mathematical Statistics, Finance and where ever else you work with statistics and noise. And since it's an integral it is always a number.



2031. Post 53959505 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 03, 2020, 06:43:13 PM
Which is exactly why there is no reason for the boomers here to be butthurt when I talk about how they all deserve to die.

Altogether too true. Inasmuch as we are human. Life extension tech is unlikely to reach escape velocity in our lifetimes. You deserve to die too, motherfucker.

(In my most benevolent paternalistic voice...)
Wouldn't be so sure about that. It doesn't need to reach escape velocity anytime soon either, as long as it becomes good enough to prolong a little bit every so often.



2032. Post 53959508 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 03, 2020, 08:21:11 PM
This debate caught my interest, so I've looked through Wikipedia and glanced through Investopedia, but I haven't found an unequivocal statement about risk being a probability (pure number) or an expectation (currency units). No clear cut equation anywhere. Some pages say only downside enters the calculation, which would make a negative outcome impossible.

As a layman, I'm left thinking that the unqualified term 'risk' isn't well suited to numerical discussion. Other more precisely defined quantities might be better for that.


This:

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In risk analysis, risk is traditionally defined as a function of probability and impact. The probability is the likelihood of an event occurring and the consequences, to which extent the project is affected by an event, are the impacts of risk.

It's very "numerical"... but, of course, the subjectivity lies on assigning proper values for both probability and impact.
Impact is easy, just make everything up like we have been on the WO. Probabilities of all the impacts are hard. Very hard.



2033. Post 53963150 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 07:59:06 AM
The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.
They don't have "negative" value under the pareto distribution. They just produce much less. All it says is that 20% of any collection of inputs is responsible for 80% of all the outputs of the system.

Basically, 20% of the people bother picking up a skill or hobby and then create 80% of the resulting products of that endeavour in the world.


Nothing about pareto states that there's any damage or 'negative value' by itself.
However, you could argue that out of that group of people that is dead set on destroying things, 20% would be responsible for 80% of the total destruction. That's about as far as it goes though.



2034. Post 53963253 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 08:29:51 AM
It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.
It kind of does. It swings one way until it can't anymore, gradually slows down to zero, reverses its direction and repeats the same action but mirrored, then it resets and begins a new cycle.

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The ultimate driver behind any culture is the people who live in it. People today are objectively worse than in most of history. It's not just the boomers, we are all affected by whatever environment we happen to live in. Things are going to get worse as a result. How much worse, who knows, but worse.
Well, things have objectively been getting better. The idiots just have a louder voice these days.

There isn't a single significant problem around today that I'm aware of which couldn't be solved relatively quickly.

I also see no evidence of things getting worse as a whole, although idiots have swarmed academia thanks to government. At the end of the day that just means cheaper labour for real scientists though.



2035. Post 53963288 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 01:47:39 PM
The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.
They don't have "negative" value under the pareto distribution. They just produce much less. All it says is that 20% of any collection of inputs is responsible for 80% of all the outputs of the system.

Basically, 20% of the people bother picking up a skill or hobby and then create 80% of the resulting products of that endeavour in the world.


Nothing about pareto states that there's any damage or 'negative value' by itself.
However, you could argue that out of that group of people that is dead set on destroying things, 20% would be responsible for 80% of the total destruction. That's about as far as it goes though.
You don't think there is such a thing as people with a negative value? Murderers? Stalin, Hitler, the common banker? Really? ALL humans have a positive value? Even the homeless who deliberately rape and spread aids and smear shit on your car?
There's a good number of people that should be lined up and seen off.

I am saying that according to pareto "20% of all people that do negative things do 80% of the negative things". That doesn't mean that 20% of the population is bad/evil/negative, but that out of the total amount of 'negative' people within a population 20% of them do 80% of the negative things that define their "negativity".

And most people are too busy living their lives and being irrelevant to the overall course of humanity to do evil, hence fueling progress indirectly by being employed or by consuming.



2036. Post 53963532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

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Things have been getting better because of the efforts of our ancestors. Then their kids, the boomers took over. And now boomers are all we have left at the top. That's why things are failing.
The generational thing was more apt for slow moving civilizations. This paradigm is due to end very soon if it hasn't already, simply because everything changes so damn quickly and communication as well as networking is completely different from what it used to be.
You no longer grow up and die with the people and in the environment that you'll spend your life with and in. So you have little chance to be fully oblivious if you want to do something more productive than being a sheep.

At the end of the day we'll end up with sets of people that exclusively consume and "just live their lives", classes of people that live to work and solve problems, as well as people who do a bit of both.

And that's good enough. People who "just live their lives" provide data and cheap labour, while also increasing the total acquirable wealth of the doers. No need for any more than that precisely because of exponential progress.
Who cares if they need more space and more resources when we become much more efficient at creation and allocation.


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Big systems can take a long time to fail. But when they do it's a process that can't be stopped. And then people look back and wonder, what went wrong? Why didn't anyone see it coming? Why did nobody do anything? Well it's because the parents of the boomers are dead that nobody did anything. Nobody could.
We have enough countries to not have to care about such issue. Even if Sanders became president and had the ability to pass anything through congress, neither of which will happen, the productive class will simply leave and set up shop elsewhere.
The consumer class will eventually follow, because it can't get anything done by itself and won't be able to resist the desire of living where the magic happens. Needless to say, some of the people who foolishly voted to break things, without even understanding what they are doing, would suffer greatly from this in the short-term.
But in the long-term all you have to do is let this nonsense play out a few more times and watch even the dumbest of idiots on Tiktok spread anti-communism awareness memes.

Yeah, it looks bad if you're zoomed in on the now. But in reality it's just a learning process.
Think of humans more as a collective organism, you know you could do better but you're too lazy, arrogant, naive and stupid to actually do it until you fall flat on your ass a few times.

For the individual all that matters is being ahead of the game and not staying in any country that is about to go down the shitter. Wealthy people have been doing this forever, and more and more normal folks learn this over time.

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Solve for communism.

In my country we pay at least 80% in taxes. In england the police are telling people to check their thinking for posts on facebook and twitter. We are almost there. How do you stop this?
We're not almost there, some countries look like they're getting there but there's a lot of lash back and it's not the entire world.
Provided you care enough to sacrifice your lifetime there are two ways. Change from within, change from without.
If you have a lot of leverage, e.g. because you're an Elon Musk, you can go into politics and media and start changing things because everybody respects you and knows that you know what the fuck you're talking about and doing.

If you're not, go to whichever country is most conducive to amassing wealth and solving significant problems. Go do it.
When that country is about to fail (e.g. if you're in the US and Sanders gets elected) you leave for the next best thing and keep going there.

Once you attain above leverage you may consider influencing culture and politics.

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Academia is where the next generation of politicians and leaders of whatever stripes are made. This is not a minor thing, but in fact one of the biggest problems we have in the west today.
It is indeed not a minor thing. But I'm not very concerned because people can migrate.
Take that away and you've got a real problem. As long as countries can attract the top of the crop by changing policy there will always be a gradient of preferable vs undesirable policies, and that ultimately and over time is what will take us to proper capitalism.


I'd guess that the real issue is creating and maintaining a culture in which:
1.) Everybody understands that anybody can come to wealth with minimal tweaks to their lifestyle
2.) Everybody who doesn't choose to become wealthy understands its their choice and hence takes full responsibility and appreciation for their 'simpler' lifestyles
3.) People understand that the wealthy almost always merely solved problems that directly or indirectly impacted everyone and that they'll be happy to take your money to solve any resulting or new problems



2037. Post 53963592 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 02:04:32 PM
It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.
The pareto principle is about distribution. In the case of contribution, human value specifically in this case, that value can be negative.
It's a distribution of inputs vs outputs, it doesn't say anything about how the number of people with positive/negative contributions develops over time.

It merely says when you have a collection of humans that you can divide into "qualities", e.g. positive and negative, then 20% of those in the positive category will create 80% of the positive things, and 20% of those in the negative category will create 80% of the negative things.

It says nothing about how many people are in each category or how that will change.


If you want to go with "humans" as input, and "value" (positive, negative, neutral) as output, then all you can get from pareto is:
20% of the humans ("input") will produce 80% of the output. This means that 80% could be neutral and 0% negative.

It also doesn't say anything about the ability of the positive to outweigh/solve the negative. Basically there is nothing in it that would let you conclude that things will get worse by any measure.



2038. Post 53964345 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 01, 2020, 06:45:55 PM
So who else thinks markets (stocks) might be crashing more because of the election than because of corona, with corona just sparking the sell-off?
If Trump somehow did not manage to get re-elected things would be looking pretty bad for the economy.

Not that Sanders would manage to get anything passed that would raise spending by $100 Trillion USD, which by the way is way more than the $83 Trillion of the M3 supply of the entire planet, but he'd still be a significant downgrade that would devastate the markets.

Potential long opportunity come November?
So Bloomberg is out of the race and announced he'll put his weight behind Biden. Biden leading massively in delegates against Bernie now.

The same moment this happened the stock market saw its largest one day surge since 2009.

Didn't expect things to move this quickly, but seems like corona didn't matter much after all considering the number of cases has been blowing up.



2039. Post 53964356 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 03:45:42 PM
It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.
It kind of does. It swings one way until it can't anymore, gradually slows down to zero, reverses its direction and repeats the same action but mirrored, then it resets and begins a new cycle.

It's the same thing, in some sense. If you project circular motion onto any straight line coplanar with the circle, you get harmonic (pendulum) motion.
Yes, but a pendulum swings through the same space. A pendulum could not have been described with the four pictures someone posted recently.
He's right. Circular and pendulum motion have the same equations of motion too.

Also, what pictures are you talking about?



2040. Post 53964775 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 04, 2020, 04:33:12 PM
It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.
It kind of does. It swings one way until it can't anymore, gradually slows down to zero, reverses its direction and repeats the same action but mirrored, then it resets and begins a new cycle.

It's the same thing, in some sense. If you project circular motion onto any straight line coplanar with the circle, you get harmonic (pendulum) motion.
Yes, but a pendulum swings through the same space. A pendulum could not have been described with the four pictures someone posted recently.
He's right. Circular and pendulum motion have the same equations of motion too.

Also, what pictures are you talking about?
"hes right what are you talking about". I'm beginning to think the whole professional mathematician aspect is limiting you.
I might've agreed with the angle if I hadn't asked about the pictures that you've mentioned.

The post was divided into two parts. One about confirming what he's saying, so you could perhaps get another perspective that you might not have had previously. Which last I checked communication was about spreading ideas.
The other part was about trying to figure out your perspective by asking for the pictures.



2041. Post 53990487 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

So the WH downplays corona after banning travel early on while the WHO clearly stated not to restrict travel or trade?

And Trump is going to be hurt by corona by candidates that are for open borders and free health care for illegals instead of Americans?

I mean, I get that the overwhelming majority of people on this planet is mentally impaired, but come on.



2042. Post 53990542 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
So the WH downplays corona after banning travel early on while the WHO clearly stated not to restrict travel or trade?

And Trump is going to be hurt by corona by candidates that are for open borders and free health care for illegals instead of Americans?

I mean, I get that the overwhelming majority of people on this planet is mentally impaired, but come on.

If the above figures are correct of 1.9 million US ICU admissions (they do sound like a worse case scenario), that’s not something you can casually blow off.  
At 2% mortality and 70% infection you get less than 100 Million deaths worldwide.

At your 4% (which is nowhere close to the <1% that I've seen for people that aren't already half-dead anyways) and 100% infection rate we'd still get 300 million at worst.

And that's assuming that neither vaccines nor cures will be developed and distributed. In reality we'll see deaths far below 100 million spread over several years, which is pretty much normal business.


Regardless, as far as politics goes. It is a matter of fact that Trump banned travel long before is usual and while the WHO was still opposed to restricting travel and trade. At the same time, MSM kept going on and on with its usual nonsense about mUh RaCisM aGaInSt cHiNeSe CorOnA PaTienTs.

If anyone reacted appropriately in the global political landscape it was Trump. Restrict spread as early as possible and try to keep things calm. You don't get to blame him for downplaying numbers when that was the status quo and he actually acted accordingly as well, unlike the WHO.

Not to mention that he's perfectly right with downplaying corona, both politically as well as realistically. People must be really bored to care about this nonsense.



2043. Post 53990599 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2020, 08:45:27 PM
So Trump is a hero for banning travel but coronavirus is nothing to worry about. Got it.
I see you still love twisting words beyond their meaning. So what you're saying is.



2044. Post 53990998 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 08, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
so we're all selling our bitcoins right?
80x short.



2045. Post 53991356 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 08, 2020, 11:30:13 PM


Remember folks, FoxNews says coronavirus is nothing to worry about. 
Do we live in parallel universes or something?

If you truly believe that corona is anything but a non-issue then the least that you could do is point your fingers where they belong. Namely the WHO and MSM, which kept discounting corona while Trump was acting and Tucker talking about the issue in a serious manner.

By the way, since you didn't seem to quite get it the first time around. You can take serious and appropriate counter-measures to an issue you believe to be irrelevant. It's called being preemptive or cautious. Hedging against the worst case scenario.
Did you sell your house and all your belongings to go long on Bitcoin? No? Then clearly you don't believe in Bitcoin! Who cares about taking appropriate and measured steps!


Either way, now that Trump outplayed Democrats by asking for a quarter of what he ended up getting in funding to combat corona and now that the WHO and MSM are suddenly taking the issue more seriously you somehow start pointing at Trump and Fox?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBsPh1Rq0Fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydWQoqDNp8

We have Trump acting way ahead of everyone else, and Tucker ringing the alarm bells while the rest of the world was still busy playing the SJW game.


As much as I understand that you desperately want Trump out of office, I'm somewhat surprised that you would be so far departed from reality.



2046. Post 53991450 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: jbreher on March 09, 2020, 12:47:15 AM
so we're all selling our bitcoins right?

Buying.
You should be buying real gold and precious metals instead of fairy dust.

Where did Roach go?



2047. Post 53995860 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 09, 2020, 04:06:42 PM
People buying now are not "lucky". They are informed.

As it always has been.

I wish I'd been informed about Bitcoin before January 2013. I'd be rich now instead of merely comfortable.
Given the ratios, one could almost argue that informed people are extraordinarily lucky. If it weren't for the fact that people who are informed often never stop seeking out new information that is.

Same story with politics (ill-informed support of big government when theory and data have been crystal clear for decades) or the irrational climate hysteria.


As long as people who prefer following their favourite news sources think they're informed enough for their opinion to matter more than dirt things won't change much.



2048. Post 53997464 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Cryptotourist on March 09, 2020, 08:08:15 PM
real = NOT plastic/silicone or whatever  Grin

She's seriously taking two jumps to close. And still better than any socialist since she at least tries trying.



2049. Post 53997490 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 09, 2020, 08:25:42 PM

Define real women.

Here is a basic algorithm for picking the right woman

Code:

def woman():
    x = int(input("How big her ass is? (1-10)"))
    y = int(input("How big her tits are? (1-10)"))
    z = int(input("What is her age? (1-100)"))
    t = input("Does she laugh when you make stupid jokes? (yes-no)")

    p = x*y

    if z<30 and z>20 and p>50 and t=="yes":
        print("That's the woman you want to marry yo!")
    else:
        print("Skip to the next candidate.")

woman()

I would quibble with that formula. Quite frankly, if a woman can not give you at least 3-5 kids then she is not good enough. 29 is way, way too old.

You don't want to have more than 2 kids especially when everybody and everything is super stupid in the last 10-15 years.

I wouldn't want my child to watch retarded youtubers on youtube for example. I grow up by watching pokémon and that was the most awesome shit I have ever witnessed.

Even 2 kids is too much tbh. It is either 1 or none. My logic says none but biology says at least one.

So 29 is OK to me.
- Home school
- Cut your kids off from the rest of the world
- Supply them with enough classic games and material to stay busy until they're impervious to the stupidity of the world



2050. Post 53998109 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbyPW8lJX2E

Tucker doing his best to play corona down again. He's been trying really hard to turn it into a meme for the past few months.
Must be trying to get people to take it lightly so they end up getting infected and dying or something.

Clearly that population control plan that Roach and other tinfoilers were talking about for so long.


Given that Hairy is in the same boat as Roach now I suppose it's safe to assume that we're out of conspiracy theory territory and in established factual reality with this assessment.


Everybody start panicking right now. This is not a drill.



2051. Post 53998113 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: BobLawblaw on March 10, 2020, 12:58:41 AM
Fucking banned from Twitter for 7 days. Used the new meme "OK groomer" against a well-known Twitter paedophile, and I'm the one banned for "hate speech".

San Francisco needs to fall into the ocean already.
Didn't know you were a trans-age-phobic bigot. Proud of you.

Also thanks for hooking me up with a new meme that slipped my attention.



2052. Post 54002676 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 10, 2020, 03:50:45 AM
2 is not enough. It takes more than that just for the species to survive. And the older she is the dumber and sicker the kid will be.
You aren't accounting for increases in life expectancy, or the fact that rejuvenation is slowly being treated very seriously.



2053. Post 54009663 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 11, 2020, 11:21:17 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

The world is truly filled with people that doesn't belong to be among others.... I'm sometimes really starting to dislike human behavior overall  Undecided

Positive this isn't a BTC enthousiast or community member Roll Eyes
What do you think? Sacrifice him to the gods or burn him as a witch?
Both.



2054. Post 54018197 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Icygreen on March 13, 2020, 01:46:59 AM
I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes
Wouldn't put it past them if the WHO and other establishment organizations played it down until they got ready for some good old insider trades before ringing the alarm bells.

I'd be seriously surprised if there was anything that they could learn this late in that would shift the situation from "who cares" to "full panic". These issues are too well studied.

/tinfoil



2055. Post 54018230 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 13, 2020, 01:55:07 AM
More down... If this wasn't so tragic it would be fucking hilarious.
I think it's pretty hilarious. Next stop $3400?



2056. Post 54018245 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: d_eddie on March 13, 2020, 02:03:43 AM
I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes
Wouldn't put it past them if the WHO and other establishment organizations played it down until they got ready for some good old insider trades before ringing the alarm bells.

I'd be seriously surprised if there was anything that they could learn this late in that would shift the situation from "who cares" to "full panic". These issues are too well studied.

/tinfoil

I think all the downplaying the WHO could do is already done. They declared pandemic status already, so it's kind of a capitulation in that regard.

This doesn't mean the virus won't be the scapegoat for all the past and present market fuckery.
They downplayed it heavily early on, and only in the last few days declared pandemic.

The point I was trying to make is that they have too many resources and smart people to not know in advance where things are going.

Which begs the question: why play things down if they will later declare a pandemic?

The potential fatality rate across the globe is far too low to make any significant dent in the population, which leaves insider trading as a potential explanation.



2057. Post 54018652 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 13, 2020, 03:26:01 AM
Just woke up.

Saw a dip down to 3800.

Un-fucking-real!

I wish I woke up now instead of an hour ago.

5400 I am ruined.

You are not ruined.

What I don't understand is that you were talking some hours ago that you wanted $4K to come to buy more... and instead you go all out  Shocked

Panic bested me.
Could always go nuts and try to time a double dip with a little bit of leverage. At 2x the price would have to drop from $5.5k to $2.75k to liquidate, so 1.1~1.3x should let you off with a black eye and a lesson.

Just don't go full retard and try to trade. That will really be your end.



2058. Post 54018669 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: mindrust on March 13, 2020, 03:32:44 AM
This is too much volatility for my mind. All I wanted was a car and a house and a job I love doing. I guess it was too much to ask from this life.
Harsh but well meant words:

With that attitude, yes, asking for anything from life is too much.

I know it sucks right now, but these are the moments where you take a deep breath (or a break) and then figure out the lesson that will help you be better prepared in the future. The more you do this the better your outcomes will become. But the second you forfeit is the second you've given up on life itself.

There's no magic wand that materializes wealth, it's a marathon of constant learning. This is true for material, personal and spiritual wealth (e.g. money, skills, getting to grips with reality).



It's interesting how humans forget how fucking retarded they were as toddlers.

I don't see them giving up on trying to walk when they fall flat on their butts. At what point do we become so deadly afraid of growing as human beings?



2059. Post 54018872 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 13, 2020, 04:07:31 AM
plot twist

turns out methamphetamine is prophylactic to corona and the tweekers inherit the earth

hey you jest but ... one medical article I read about this evil virus suggested that non-smokers did better, smokers were also not much worse than average but people who had recently given up smoking were hit hard ... I don't know what to believe but that sound like pure fucking evil. Guy tries to do the right thing and gets smacked hard for it?!? Like wtf is this shit?
Plottwistception, or otherwise known as life (is a bitch).



2060. Post 54024495 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: jojo69 on March 13, 2020, 10:17:11 PM

if your last post was true, losing several millions in this turmoil, why make your partner work at all?



6-8 mil just ain't that much money man, you still work
You're completely right that it isn't that much money.

But if you wanted to you could live a very comfortable upper middle to upper class lifestyle without ever working again.

Move to an area that has appropriate costs of living and you can live off of fixed interest accounts throwing off $60~240k a year. Or $50~210k with a $1m home to cut out rent. There are plenty of very nice cities where $1m gets you a beautiful property and where $50~210k is a fortune when you don't have to pay rent.



2061. Post 54024507 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Gyrsur on March 13, 2020, 10:22:05 PM
Another: planB feels that btc stayed within the S2F bands, however, one may surmise that bitcoin cycle became erratic.
There is no more clear bull and bear, or rather bull and bear appear randomly and not really connected to the underlying halving cycles.
We went down to levels first encountered in September 2017, which is almost exactly where Sp500 went to (in terms of levels vs time).

TL;DR We seem to correlate more with the stock market than with gold/silver OR with halving expectations, at least for now.

thank you for the update. but please have in mind the world is facing a crisis like the financial crisis of 2007–08 and we have no historical data how BTCitcoin will behave in such a large crisis because it did not exist yet in 2007-08. it was in fact the result of that crisis.

EDIT: but you're right Satoshi invented it with the aim to protect ppl against such crisis if they are using it. so my knowledge is limited at the moment. time will tell if we leave the crisis behind and BTC will prosper again in the future. I hope it. but in fact that is a taff and real testcase for BTC.
It is no real test case right now simply because the liquidity is non-existent. The corn is still in its infancy.

The run to $1000 prepared the fields, the run to $20k planted the seeds. Right now we're watering them for the first time. When we dump to $100k we maybe might start harvesting the first crops.



2062. Post 54024532 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Hyperjacked on March 13, 2020, 10:41:40 PM

if your last post was true, losing several millions in this turmoil, why make your partner work at all?



6-8 mil just ain't that much money man, you still work

Money is relative... I've worked with some very wealthy ppl that think they are poor and stressed about the future and I've seen the opposite.
Personally I can live in the mountains off the grid on next to nothing! An old timer I know very well lives off the land For a few hundred dollars a month.

This. I still live like a student and nobody knows how much I'm worth.

Small two room flat to separate work and leisure. The internet provides me with all the entertainment that I need. The only luxuries I partake in are my high-end desktop PC, Gigabit internet, and the occasional splurge on luxury food and scotch.

I'd rather leverage most of what I have into the future. Quite like the idea of funding research (nuclear fusion, rejuvenation etc.) should I somehow, God willing, end up with such sums. If not then at the very least I know that I'll never have to do anything that I don't want to for money while still being able to fulfill just about any material dream.



2063. Post 54024546 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 13, 2020, 11:19:49 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/market-broken-why-nobody-trading-any-more

The US-Treasury market is freezing up, even with a $1.5 trillion liquidity gusher from the Fed. CONfidence and trust that the fiat game is founded upon is evaporating.

I don't see any Bitcoin markets freezing up. And they run 24/7. The TRUSTLESS bitcoin network chugs along settling trades trustlessly just fine in times of absolute pandemonium.

In the not too distant future bitcoin may be the ONE OF THE FEW ways to securely transfer/settle funds around the globe.

Let that sink in a little.
Parts of Europe literally banned short-selling, so yeah.

The day stocks move onto the Bitcoin blockchain is the day Bitcoin will have officially achieved its purpose.



2064. Post 54024682 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 13, 2020, 11:32:06 PM
Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.



2065. Post 54024753 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 14, 2020, 12:57:04 AM
Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........
Relative value comes from supply and demand. Central banks are not just devaluing currency with the printing press, they are functionally changing and corroding it.

It's as if they had the power to make your computer worse just by printing some more, which is obviously not the case for computers. Yes, the relative value of computers changes if you shit out a lot of them, due to basic supply and demand.

They do however retain the same absolute functionality no matter how many there are.

This is not the case with fiat currency. If you print too much of it fiat loses all of its functionality as money and this happens on a gradient, e.g. the more you print the more useless your currency becomes.

If you create an infinite amount of computers the only thing that will happen is that everybody will be able to have a pretty nice tool.



2066. Post 54024836 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 14, 2020, 02:16:58 AM
Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........
Relative value comes from supply and demand. Central banks are not just devaluing currency with the printing press, they are functionally changing and corroding it.

It's as if they had the power to make your computer worse just by printing some more, which is obviously not the case for computers. Yes, the relative value of computers changes if you shit out a lot of them, due to basic supply and demand.

They do however retain the same absolute functionality no matter how many there are.

This is not the case with fiat currency. If you print too much of it fiat loses all of its functionality as money and this happens on a gradient, e.g. the more you print the more useless your currency becomes.

If you create an infinite amount of computers the only thing that will happen is that everybody will be able to have a pretty nice tool.

Some of those points are strictly true and some are arguable. Anyways, no matter how many differences you can enumerate between USD and BTC... those are all inherent characteristics of each USD and BTC. And considering all those differential characteristics still 1 USD = 1 USD and 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

Unless you are comparing 1 USD that is not really a USD (with its inherent government controlled inflation) and a different USD (like, I donno, one that is completely different?). But that would the same than comparing one Bitcoin (BTC) to one Bitcoin (Bcash lol). They are different things, so the equal thing is not really valid even if some people might try to argue they are.

Anyways none of this really matter...

As a maths guy, can you say 1BTC = 1BTC and, at the same time and for similar reasons, say that 1 USD != 1 USD?

And... even if you can (wtf?) do you really think that is a good moto to use to show the differential advantages of BTC? I think it is a completely ridiculous one. Btw, 1BSV = 1BSV too.
Again, USD changes functionally while BTC does not. The latter is 100% predictable and reliable, the former is up to the whims of the printing press. What was 1 USD last week is no longer 1 USD today. And unlike with BTC that is not due to 'relative value' to other goods based on supply and demand.

Nobody would've been able to almost eradicate entire nations if BTC was the currency of choice, because the functionality is consistent and constant over time. Meanwhile with central banks and fiat currencies all it takes is some good old hyperinflation or complete loss of trust which turns fiat from money into useless paper.

The only way you can accurately argue $1 = $1 is if you refer to the paper and its specific print. As money this is untrue.



2067. Post 54025022 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 14, 2020, 02:50:13 AM

Again, USD changes functionally while BTC does not. The latter is 100% predictable and reliable, the former is up to the whims of the printing press. What was 1 USD last week is no longer 1 USD today. And unlike with BTC that is not due to 'relative value' to other goods based on supply and demand.

Nobody would've been able to almost eradicate entire nations if BTC was the currency of choice, because the functionality is consistent and constant over time. Meanwhile with central banks and fiat currencies all it takes is some good old hyperinflation or complete loss of trust which turns fiat from money into useless paper.

The only way you can accurately argue $1 = $1 is if you refer to the paper and its specific print. As money this is untrue.

Yes, I do agree with your comparison between BTC and USD. That's why I do like BTC.

But still...

1 USD (with its inherent shitty features, like unpredictable emission rate, risk of being turned into completely useless paper and whatever you want to add here) = 1 USD (with its inherent shitty features, like unpredictable emission rate, risk of being turned into completely useless paper and whatever you want to add here)

It's just an equal sign with both *IDENTICAL* values at each side of the equal sign. That shouldn't be debatable.

Like "cmqñljer=cmqñljer" where I don't know what "cmqñljer" really is, nor its characteristics, nor I do really care... but I can safely say that 1cmqñljer = 1 cmqñljer.

But... If I wanted to really explain its advantages I would focus on them instead of just saying that 1cmqñljer = 1 cmqñljer which I don't think is a very good argument to convince anyone. And the same applies to 1BTC = 1BTC.

Anyways, people will keep repeating it at each and every dump as some sort of miraculous Vodoo. I know. I will just have to live with it as I have done all this years Smiley
I don't particularly care for the 1 BTC = 1 BTC argument and I wouldn't focus on, or even mention, it to sell anyone on the idea of BTC.

But here you keep ignoring the time variable when you try to assert 1 USD to be 1 USD.

This is only ever true in an isolated snapshot of an arbitrary "now". The functionality of 1 USD at any time t is different from the functionality of 1 USD at any time s that is sufficiently far from t. This does not happen with BTC.

I'm not sure in what other way to verbalize the fact that 1 USD is not always going to be 1 USD. It's not about the paper bill, or the number that shows up in a bank account. Those are entirely arbitrary and irrelevant when it comes to the functionality as money.

If you had a fiat currency without a central bank (or a functional equivalent) you'd have the 1 USD = 1 USD argument in the same way that you have 1 BTC = 1 BTC.



2068. Post 54025184 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 14, 2020, 04:26:37 AM
...
It's just an equal sign with both *IDENTICAL* values at each side of the equal sign. That shouldn't be debatable.
...
I don't particularly care for the 1 BTC = 1 BTC argument and I wouldn't focus on, or even mention, it to sell anyone on the idea of BTC.

But here you keep ignoring the time variable when you try to assert 1 USD to be 1 USD.

This is only ever true in an isolated snapshot of an arbitrary "now". The functionality of 1 USD at any time t is different from the functionality of 1 USD at any time s that is sufficiently far from t. This does not happen with BTC.

I'm not sure in what other way to verbalize the fact that 1 USD is not always going to be 1 USD. It's not about the paper bill, or the number that shows up in a bank account. Those are entirely arbitrary and irrelevant when it comes to the functionality as money.

If you had a fiat currency without a central bank (or a functional equivalent) you'd have the 1 USD = 1 USD argument in the same way that you have 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

Funny seeing you argue so hard against the idea of a reflexive property but not really surprising.

One thing is always equal to itself regardless of how its value changes.

If you want to say

X1 ≠ X2, with X1 being the value of something in 1984 and X2 being the value of something today

then sure, there's a case to be made for that.

However, a dollar bill printed in 1995 has absolutely the same value as a dollar bill printed today. You can hold them up side by side, and they will both buy you the same amount of coffee. You have to clarify what conditions you are comparing X1 to X2, otherwise you're just not making sense.
This isn't about reflexivity because the argument is precisely that dollars are not reflexive over time when it comes to their functionality as money, and your example doesn't hold either.

Either way, instead of wasting so much time on shitposting you might want to actually use that same energy on trying to actually understand what is being said.

Perhaps you might even be able to figure out that 1 USD at time t (e.g. in the year 1995) is almost never the same as 1 USD at time s =/= t (e.g. today). Your example doesn't hold regardless of the presence of a central bank as it concerns the argument at hand.

Go back to playing Minecraft instead of trying to pretend that the minting date of currency having no impact on its value when spent at the same time is some sort of revelation.



2069. Post 54025191 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 14, 2020, 05:08:38 AM
Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Bitcoin is not fungible. And that is a problem IMO. Already today you see that mixed coins are worth less (Coinbase freezing your account) and coins without a transaction history (straight from the miners) or auctioned by the US Marshals are sold for a premium.

So sorry to wake you up at this time of the day but 1 BTC really is not like the other 1 BTC.
https://nypost.com/2013/05/15/43-8-million-for-this/

Paint is not fungible. Some people are just really stupid.
Are these pseudo-art retards trolling or are they geniuses when it comes to laundering money? What is even going on in that world?



2070. Post 54027697 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: nutildah on March 14, 2020, 06:41:58 AM
Perhaps you might even be able to figure out that 1 USD at time t (e.g. in the year 1995) is almost never the same as 1 USD at time s =/= t (e.g. today).

Yes, it is. 1 USD = 1 USD, always, every day since April 2, 1792.

Your example doesn't hold regardless of the presence of a central bank as it concerns the argument at hand.

 Roll Eyes

My example was serving to make what you were saying more logically palatable, and then you mangled it to make it once again illogical.

When bitserve said this:

It's just an equal sign with both *IDENTICAL* values at each side of the equal sign. That shouldn't be debatable.

he is _clearly_ talking about a reflexive property here, X = X. You are arguing against that, saying no, X doesn't equal X because X before is different than X now. While its value changes, the USD is not inherently different. It is always the same denomination of legal tender to be used in the U.S. for goods and services. The _value_ as measured against a basket of currencies or a gallon of milk or whatever is different -- that is a characteristic of X. You're just saying flat out X ≠ X, which is dumb.
You sound like you'd identify as genderfluid.

At least Bitserve can make arguments and have debates in an attempt to communicate, while you just bring up complete crap and then run your mouth every single time you post anything.

Quote
While its value changes, the USD is not inherently different.
Yes, it is, that's the point. One is always under any circumstance functionally reflexive over time, regardless of whether you compare a 2019 BTC with a 2019 or a 2041 BTC, the other is not. I'd tell you to learn to read but that clearly won't save you.

The matter of fact remains, as soon as a central bank prints too much money the underlying fiat currency loses its function as money which is something that can not happen with BTC. Nobody ever tried to argue that the denomination changes. That's the whole point of the argument.

Fiat currencies deliberately muzzle this fact and it's clearly going way over your head.



2071. Post 54030099 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 14, 2020, 07:25:44 PM
LOL assuming his people has enough.

Nothing against US but I think US has enough then what's the point to do such things. In China there are people who struggles to have proper meal a day. Don't they deserve some attention?
It's likely just excess stock. It's not like you can magically convert it into food. And even if it wouldn't last very long.



2072. Post 54067400 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on March 13, 2020, 01:59:06 AM
I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes
Wouldn't put it past them if the WHO and other establishment organizations played it down until they got ready for some good old insider trades before ringing the alarm bells.

I'd be seriously surprised if there was anything that they could learn this late in that would shift the situation from "who cares" to "full panic". These issues are too well studied.

/tinfoil
Well that didn't take long to come to light.



2073. Post 54067427 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 20, 2020, 02:11:21 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Briefly touched the $7xxx range before correcting a little... currently $6660USD/$9507CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Still a week and a half in Mic's contest. This should be interesting.

Stop using the paper money. Seriously, paper money is the easiest way to spread any kind of germs.

Not my paper money.  Cool


You may want to seal those, just to be safe against deterioration and tearing.



2074. Post 54126403 (copy this link) (by BTCMILLIONAIRE) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.22h):

Quote from: bitcoinvest on March 28, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
United States    101,508   Coronavirus Cases
Those spring break and similar retards should've been lined up. Along with the WHO.