Other coins to BTC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2962774.msg35890700#msg35890700

at the end of the year BTC $100 000 will be

after 2 years $ 1 000 000 will be

$100 000 to the end of 2018

$1000

after each peak bitcoin falls to the level of the last peak

bitcoin and ETH will equal in capitalization sooner or later, they have the same reputation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2962774.msg30426301#msg30426301

this is not advertising, but comparison. ETH has a good reasons for growth 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg45616321#msg45616321

the reason for the high volatility is only that there is very little investment in the asset so far

Will be only allow what the oligarchs have already entered I think: BTC, ETH, ETC, XRP, XLM, NEO. The rest will be banned just as do not give to create cars on the water instead of gasoline from pre-war times, so as not to violate the interests of fuel companies  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU

Some new photos of the "ETH Hotel", China's first hotel to accept $ETH payment. There's Bitcoin inside too

https://mobile.twitter.com/cnLedger/status/1045611987059716097

we can safely store so! http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/coldstorage.html

dash

Bitcoin or altcoins now?

run into the ETH  

ETH should win because BTC and BCH have problems, ETH with XRP will compete for the first place 

every time bitcoin falls after the peak of 5 times, below will not go

250 - 50
1000 - 200
20000 - 4000

less than 4000 will not be cheaper, bitcoin does not fall more than x5

ETH will surpass bitcoin in 5 years

the crocodile's mouth will end)




 

Only these coins have practical application: BTC, ETH, XRP, XLM, REP, ICX (South Korea state coin) and NEO (China state coin)

the price became too early 3600, now there will be a strong correction upward

if bitcoin falls because of the risk of attack 51, then why does the ETH fall too, it should grow on the contrary

the price became too early 3600, now there will be a strong correction upward

because USDT 0.94$

1 year bitcoin will be in a sideways trend, during this time ETH will grow like LTC from $1 to $4 in 2015

Bitcoin and ETH residents of South Korea do not sell at all  









https://coinlib.io/global-crypto-charts?theme=dark#global_money_flow

Norway has accumulated a trillion dollars and does not know to what to spend

drawdown without negative news as in ' 14, and what happens if Mt.Goks will to sell BTC? Or Craig  Wright with Jihan Wu will continue sell the BTC  to pump ABC and SV? On this news ETH and LTC just have to the Moon

SV have news today, released a roadmap with a promise of up to 6.5 million transactions per second

Microsoft 800 billions market cap
Apple 800 billions market cap
Bitcoin 70 billions market cap

Very confusing name - cryptocurrency. Therefore, it seems that we are talking about a currency like the dollar, only digital. But the dollar is also digital. And it's not about deflation, and not that ETH is not created by the government, but by miners.

ETH is a Protocol for transmitting value. And when you understand this, everything becomes clear and the huge value of ETH and its prospects.

It is more logical to compare it not with money, which is a measure of value, but the cost itself can not transfer. Therefore, we certainly need intermediaries to transfer this cost (banks, money changers, exchanges, people, ATMs, etc.).)

ETH is closer to the Internet than Money because it is a Protocol. It is able to convey value in itself and this is its value.

The Internet is a Protocol for transmitting Information. ETH is a Protocol for transmitting Value.

Both of these core protocols are the basis on which global networks are being built.

ETH is the third Protocol after the Internet and bitcoin.

Bitcoin is the second Protocol after the Internet. Now there is not even one application for it.

It as if the Internet in the form of the Protocol already was, and here any site under it isn't present.  ETH is the third Protocol with applications.

And how to explain to the layman that before you a valuable thing? It is clear that the inhabitant will tell is a  fraud

But we are at the very beginning.

But the heyday of ETH-it's close.

Best wallets:

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/coldstorage.html

https://myetherwallet.github.io/knowledge-base/offline/running-myetherwallet-locally.html

buying a Ledger makes sense only if your coin is not supported by these wallets

$113000 at april 2022

https://ru.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/Z1uO7AdU-bitcoin-doroga-k-1oo-ooo/

the last wave is incorrectly drawn, below 3500 will not fall, each wave must stretch according to Elliott's law, the story develops in a spiral, not in a circle, now there will be a strong correction up to the line of 6000

the drop on the panic was, now back to 6000

Buy eth and ltc

LTC increased from 1 to 5 in 2015, but BTC stayed at 200

ETH is very convenient, the transaction is 15 seconds. Bitcoin is the last century. For bitcoins it is necessary to monitor addresses. If more than 100 transactions are sent without changing the settings, the balance after 100 transactions will not be returned! But on the ETH you do not need to follow the addresses, the money is always returned to the address from which it was sent.

The market is manipulate, the prices were sold deliberately, so that people sold everything cheap and then bought at high prices, passengers are not needed for growth. I sold bitcoins for $200 in 2014, and in 2018 I bought ETH for $200

The market always goes against expectations, everyone is waiting for the fall and lateral trend at 3000

by summer we can grow up to 100 thousand

in the spring of 2013 all bottom waited, but got an increase from 50 to 1000

according to Elliott's law, history always develops in a spiral, not in a circle, but in a spiral, the cycles increase

that's because I posted the forecast.)))

in the Irkutsk region in Russia electricity costs 1 cent for the population and 3 cents for companies  https://icerockmining.io/en.html

demand for Bukkt are already full, we are waiting for a big growth

What coin are you interested in a fallen market? Past poll results reseted, new start  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043138.240

message about interaction with bitcoin! Bitcoin does not tolerate the growth of the ether, with each growth it loses a large share, the chart shows this very well. And why do you have such a reaction to my message? It means that I correctly talk

the deficit is intentional, some people benefit the rest for them obeyed. If everyone refuses any action than will restored Paradise, will change the laws of physics, and food to housing will not even be needed. The universe is a mirror of our mood, any help creates a need for it, so that the helper can show help. Good is also is evil because it creates it. God is in every person, we are perfect, we create the events only by our mood, but dark forces is beneficial to keep us in the delusion that we do only what is advantageous to them. It is not even beneficial to them, they just do not understand that happiness is not in power, but inside

why to sell new money for old money - the mind boggles  

people don't sell, do this only manipulators

 remove everything from Bank accounts and buy cryptocurrencies, it is necessary to punish manipulators and to depreciate paper

in this case, it is necessary to punish the fools who sell

besides bitcoin and ETH, you can not sit in anything in a falling market

ETC could not stand the bearish trend and announced the termination of the activities of one of its groups of developers
https://twitter.com/etcdev/status/1069625401515872256

but bounce will sharply, you will do not have time to buy, so it is better to buy now

on the next growth of the crypto market they will have money, especially since they are already experienced 2014 and know what to do

support 3000 is not will break, and if we break the resistance 5500, then only growth next

why ETH falls stronger than bitcoin? Competitor's problems should be beneficial, not the other way around

the rest are not, but the ETH is, it is a contender for the first place https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg48412665#msg48412665

below 3000 is not possible  https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/952-%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D1%81-bitcoin/&do=findComment&comment=1707986

large amount sold not on the exchanges and the price is not affected

it's time to buy, such low prices will never be

within 2-3 years, the curvature can be neglected and draw a straight line

ETC sometimes comes in the top 10, so 2 times the growth is sure to be

"bitcoin will not be cheaper than $149, it is necessary to buy now!" 
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/952-%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D1%81-bitcoin/&do=findComment&comment=224424

cheaper will never be, you need to buy now, better altcoins, they will give more xxx

Today the holiday which is celebrated once in 4 years as the Olympic games - it is the end of year of bears! In honor of him and a candle  

Bitcoin is oversold, it's time to buy, but there is a coin resold to bitcoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg48747851#msg48747851

this is good news, the price will not fall further, everything has been sold, it is necessary to buy

bitcoin will remain at 4000 for the year, but top-10 altcoins will grow due to oversold, BCH especially. In 2015, bitcoin was 200 all year, and litecoin grew from 1.3 to 8

bitcoin has a global recognition, BCH has the largest manufacturer of miners, ETH has apps, DASH has anonymity. What other coins mean?

Why do altcoins grow better than bitcoin? Because it is better to buy what has become cheaper

The government does not ban bitcoin because it is a good buyer of electricity. The world is ruled not by the President, not by the government, not by banks, but by energy companies. The threat to them is always eliminated at the root and by any means. If bitcoin is a threat to banks, that banks will be eliminated, not bitcoin.

especially with quotes at 22 December

and with 22 posts on a page)))

domination only grows in XRP, ETH and BCH https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

Failure ETH from PoW makes unnecessary XRP, XLM, EOS and similar. In the near future, the growth of ETH is likely to increase due to sales of these, and according to technical analysis, they are on the peaks to the ether now asking for a correction. But DASH and BCH will follow for ether in growth because they are oversold, at the bottom to ETH now and are unlikely to go below

the market share was captured by ETH long-term taking away the domination of bitcoin until now, but in connection with the refusal of PoW, this share will go to BCH

To describe how the block size limit affects the speed and cost of transactions on the blockchain, let us use the following example:

It’s Saturday night and you’re about to visit the hottest club in town. Before this club became a big deal, it was a small local joint with a cool crowd, good music, and reasonably priced drinks in a small venue.

All of a sudden, people started talking about this venue and telling their friends, and now everyone wants to get in. The problem is, the club is in a building that can only hold 2,500 people. In this analogy, think of the club as a “block”, with limited storage capacity or size, and think of each patron as a bitcoin transaction.

When the club (block) is full at 2,500 people (transactions), the bouncer is instructed to form a line and start charging an increasingly high cover charge (transaction fees) for entry. More and more people keep coming to the hottest club in town, and as of today, the situation has become so bad that the line of people waiting outside is approximately 270,000 people long and the average cover charge is as high as $140. You’ve been waiting patiently for hours to get in, but people willing to pay more than you keep jumping to the front of the line and are keeping the club full. Even worse, each person (transaction) is only allowed to bid on their cover charge once. When you first got in line, you thought that paying $20 would be enough to get you in quickly, but now several thousand more people have joined the line and said they would pay more than you. There is nothing you can do but wait until everyone paying more than you gets in and the bouncer gets around to letting you in.

Despite this situation and much complaint from the community, the club management has stubbornly refused to move or build a larger building, and insist that a full club and ten times as many patrons waiting in line outside is not only good for business but that it would be impossible to expand their building to accommodate more patrons even if they wanted to.

In Bitcoin Core, the mempool is the lineup of people waiting to get into the club and the transaction fees are the cover charge the bouncer requires to let you into the 2,500 person capacity club.

At an average cost of as high as $140 per transaction and a line up of over 270,000 unconfirmed transactions, Bitcoin Core, a system that was created to explicitly be a “peer-to-peer-electronic cash system” has now become unusable for merchants and has priced out the majority of users in developed countries, let alone the entirety of users in smaller, developing countries.
https://www.bitcoin.com/info/what-is-bitcoin-cash

rudeness is a sign of the opponent's rightness. Answer the question: how will you solve the problem of expensive commissions when the price of bitcoin rises?
will you pay $ 1000 for the transfer or mounth stand in line for $ 100?

users do not need to maintain the blockchain and it is dangerous, cold storage is recommended

decentralization does not exist nowhere, the only valuable thing is the proof of work

the engine on water invented long ago, but the fuel companys always destroy such inventions, so as not to lose power https://youtu.be/Jivb7lupDNU

therefore, a million old modems 56 for them is better than one novelty, the future for a gross increase of block size

what purpose  you have? if the money - it is contributing to a Bitmain clan, and if happiness - it is inaction to auto recount difficulty in the smaller side

can not stay idle, otherwise the BTC commission will grow to $ 1000

Bitmain is the strongest figure in the cryptocurrency market, so everything will be as Bitman and sellers of electricity wants, and this is BCH. The people never solve anything in this world, it is the world of Satan

warming is good, it's the process of rebuilding the planet after the atomic wars that caused the glaciers to form. Just Satan recovery is not profitable, so the harm is fictional and history is distorted

the smell of fried, am I a threat to bitcoin?

better bitter truth than sweet lie

what's abnormal? I just know a lot of things.

I know the balance is governed by mortality, death exists to make room. If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Yes

I'm a Muscovite, I use a translator

8 GB for 47000 tps like visa

Bitcoin will not be able to increase the size of the block otherwise it will mean the recognition that BCH is better. But without increasing the block to solve the problem of BTC scaling is impossible

7 TPS, Visa has 47000

LN will turn bitcoin into a Visa

if you want to avoid control, you will be offered to pay 1000 bucks for the Commission   You stay in BTC but we'll go to BCH while cheap price of coins

Toomim’s analysis further explains that if each transaction was around 400 bytes and the block was 500MB, it could be encoded into 1.9MB of data or a “99.618% reduction in size.” Interestingly, the Bitcoin Core (BTC) and Bitcoin Satoshi’s Vision (BSV) networks cannot utilize the Xthinner concept. Toomim explained that both protocols would need to upgrade in order to reap the protocol’s compression benefits. “BTC also lacks CTOR/LTOR, which means [it] won’t work as well and would require substantial modifications to work at all,” Toomim remarked on the forum. The BSV network does not have lexicographic transaction ordering capabilities either, making Xthinner unobtainable to BSV developers. https://news.bitcoin.com/bch-developer-unveils-xthinner-scaling-protocol-claims-to-compress-blocks-by-99/

if bitcoin falls to 1000, then BCH will not fall lower than now

ETH may drop to $ 10, LTC to $ 4, but BCH may not fall below $ 75 because nobody bought it cheaper

the reason of pump is penetration of resistance

why is bitcoin turn into a Visa? What is the point in reducing the block size + LN, if a large block does not interfere, safe storage in any case only cold

BCH the best

I think this was conceived for the sake of raising commissions in the main network, so that people use only a centralized LN

L1 is the gold that you keep, but L2 is the dollars on the card that can freeze

L1 this your money, but L2 is uncle said you that this your money

understand the only important thing: it is not important to decentralize, but important the inability to freeze your money without a hard fork. L1 provides it, but L2 and a coins type xrp does not provide

Why do we need EOS if there are Windows? Why do we need LN if we have BCH? Why do we need a LN if bitcoin was conceived to fight the LN?

In addition to BTC and BCH, there is no sense in altcoins, any option can be added to BTC, and BCH has something that BTC will not have - large blocks

Dynamic commission it is yesterday, it should not jump, BCH well done in this regard, always 1 satosh per byte

wonderful words sounded in the article: "artificial scarcity". Our whole life is, money is not needed at all, they came up for operations with artificial deficits. What will win in the world of the devil: an artificial deficit with a small BTC block or a good deed BCH with a big one? https://www.ccn.com/5-reasons-why-i-plan-to-adopt-bitcoin-cash

why do we need LN if bitcoin was invented to fight LN?
 LN is another great deception of the people with the imposition of an artificial deficit

What's the point of lightning if bitcoin was invented to fight lightning? Are you sure that inside the channel you can not print unnoticed new coins according to the Ponzi scheme?

altcoins will disappear, there will be only BTC and BCH as a large block addition

bch will disappear too if bitcoin makes a big block

BTC, XRP, ETH losing domination, the others increases

altcoins buy in connection with oversold, I think the reason for this

lightning will only save itself like doctors, the army and the police are interested in treating, but not healing. Big block of BCH more interesting at this reason

the genius of the invention of bitcoin is just in the huge bandwidth due to the huge computing power and huge block size. The mistake of Satoshi's followers is that they limited the block size for the sake of increasing difficulty.  
EOS can not more than 3000 TPS, its capacity is limited by the performance of the server. But bitcoin can, if you let the block size float freely like a Komodo. however, this has its plus, the high complexity of bitcoin is ideal for notarization transactions altcoins like the same Komodo

we are on the verge of breaking through an important level. If we break through, everything can fly sharply to the moon

bitcoin is the worst coin for security. A hacker needs a billion years, if only one address with money is on the blockchain, which you need to find roughly fingering private keys. And if a billion people already have addresses there, the task is facilitated by a billion times up to 1 year. And if he has not one, but 12 computers work, then up to a month. And if he is not alone hacker, then even more increases the likelihood that will be stolen. Therefore, never store the entire Deposit on one address, especially bitcoin.

Free killer of paid hardware wallets   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg50403255#msg50403255

in future i think bitcoin will be used only to notarize the others coins, the block is intentionally limited in favor of lightning, to expensive sell normal transactions

next resistance at 5700

again congestion in bitcoin because of a small block

Komodo has an automatic adjustment of the block size https://www.kmdexplorer.io/charts/block-size

go to BSV or to BTT at the time of correction to 3200

I think the secwit was implemented in order to prevent the translation of already signed transactions from Satoshi's wallets

a small block at same reason, it was necessary to create a valid cause of secwit

if increase the block, you will have to cancel the secwit, so bitcoin does not want to leave the small block

sell BTC and buy BSV, will equal in price

BSV only one altcoin which can go in the direction opposite to the falling crypto market

BTC 8 tps
BCH 80 tps
BSV 800 tps

BTC will not be able to increase the block size because in this case it will have to cancel the Seqwit, which will not allow the signed transactions from Satoshi's wallets to work in January 2020

what meaning in seqwit if the block will increased?

they are without proof of work, they are not cryptocurrencies

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/bjec1e/bsv_is_about_proof_of_work_not_just_in_mining_but/

BSV is about Proof of Work, not just in mining, but in all aspects. Other chains want to change the rules because they know that in time they cannot compete with or outwork the true Bitcoin. BSV is the only blockchain in the arena.


Recently I was thinking about this famous quotation by Theodore Roosevelt , his "Man in the Arena" speech:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

It makes me think of BitcoinSV. The critics are the ABC and Core losers that never put in work, never attempt, never fail, never try and try again, never fall short, but also never succeed, never triumph, and never change the world. They are the cold and timid souls on the sidelines, the ones with the NO2X hats, happy to strangle Bitcoin and destroy the original vision for a short term pump and dump narrative. They are the Chris Pacia's of the world that tell us 22MB blocks are impossible, and needle us about "6 block reorgs" even though no chain was ever more than 2 blocks behind. They make lies that big blocks will result in complete centralization and spread lies that big blocks take 41 minutes to propagate the network. They tell us about "poison blocks" and that big blocksizes are too dangerous. But BSV marches on and proves the world wrong again and again with world record 128MB blocks mined that dwarf that of any other public blockchain.

Its not perfect, sometimes we fall short, sometimes we err, sometimes we fail, but we learn from those failures, and learn from our mistakes and shortcomings. And we improve, and grow, and become stronger. For there is no effort without shortcomings. There is no improvement without trial and error. And who is even competing against us? The other loser chains are afraid to compete. They are afraid to enter the arena. They cannot compete, and they never could, that is why ABC were so critical of the early stress tests done by the BSV community. The only thing they have is to criticize BSV and Craig on social media, because they are doing nothing, they do not know how to work. The only work they seem to be doing is dedicating 90% of their life to obsessing about BSV and Craig. We now know Greg Maxwell of BlockStream is /u/contrarian__, the main defamation troll cult leader critic of Craig and BSV. When you spend all your work and time on being a critic you are not actually doing work. You are just being a critic on the sidelines, and you are not in the arena. You are attacking someone else's work because you don't know how to do real work. They are shitlord degenerate weirdos that can't even properly groom themselves, exercise, or wash their hoodies or clown shirts in a timely manner. You can smell their laziness from a mile away.

The ShamBitcoins have the illusion of work, while BSV does the real work. BSV does so much work that it gets captured and stolen by the fake Bitcoin chains. They steal the network effect, they steal the market cap, they steal the brand, they steal the merchants, they steal the ticker, they steal the subreddits that people like me and others worked hard to build, they steal our following, they steal the fiat onramps and exchanges. That is all they can do. All they know how to do is steal things and then try to rest on their laurels. This is why so many of them prefer POS, so they can become the oligarchs of the system.

It is the same in BTC-Core's Lightning, Jihan/ABC's Avalanche/POS plans, and ETH's plans for POS. These are all forms of POS and rent seeking, where the systems degrade into oligarchy. The oligarchs don't want to work, they don't want POW. BSV on the other hand is entirely about POW, and putting in work, in all aspects. We just march on and continue building and competing. The parasites are on our back sucking our blood and weakening us, but the honey badger continues on. The subreddit continues here, the chain continues with 128MB and 2GB in July, the building and infrastructure continues with moneybutton and unwriter's tools, and large op-return data sizes, and metanet. Parasites freak out and try to delist us because they realize the day of reckoning is approaching. They know in their gut they have stolen everything they ever had. The ShamBitcoin chains are dying, literally. When the reward halving runs out their chains will lose all of their hashing security. BSV is the only ledger that will persist because it can actually generate utility and fees on its gigantic blocksizes. The critics know they cannot compete on work, so they seek to change the rules of the game.

BSV is learning to swim on its own, exercising its mining muscles. We get stronger every day. We have mined world record 128MB blocks. While the other chains mining muscles are atrophied. They couldn't mine bigger blocks if they tried. They are wearing swim floaties on their skinny arms that lose half of their air every 4 years. Core and the Blue Matt are even giving presentations about how mining is bad and we need to get rid of mining altogether because they know they have already failed. Peter Todd is advocating inflation. They have failed to put in the work needed to scale.

So yes we are the ones in the arena, our faces marred with dust and sweat and blood. We are the ones working. We strive valiantly, and if we fail, at least we fail while daring greatly. At least we pushed the limits of what is possible, at least we were not cowards that lay down and give up, or try to steal others work and rest on their laurels. At least we were not just troll critics on the sideline who can only point out where the strong man stumbles. We in BSV at times may experience shortfalls, but we also are able to achieve great triumphs, for you can't have the latter without the former. So remember it is not the critics that count, and its not the trolls that count. Its us that count. We are the irate tireless minority that stands up for what is right. We are the ones that preserve Bitcoin for future generations. BSV is about changing the world, and if you want to change the world you better get off the sidelines and get in the arena.

6500 is only an hour of attack, but the exchanges increased the time of deposits to 24 hours

But in general, you are right, advertising for BSV - it is also advertising and for BTC. I did not know before that BTC will can all this too in future

People question why something is built a certain way. Sometimes only the creator knows why. https://twitter.com/justicemate/status/1123216578059726848?s=20

Craig Wright and Calvin Ayre make nice with a crypto exchange
A week after BSV was delisted from multiple exchanges, the cryptocurrency’s champions invest in one. Building BSV as an enterprise platform is the goal.

Calvin Ayre, Craig Wright and the Bitcoin SV cryptocurrency they champion are popular with at least one exchange. Ayre’s Coingeek has teamed up with Drive Markets, a new institutional and individual crypto exchange, and will make a multimillion-dollar investment in the company. Wright’s nChain will supply blockchain consulting services and access to its intellectual property.

As Modern Consensus reported, Wright and Ayre earned the animosity of much of the cryptocurrency community last week after threatening to sue, and in at least one case actually suing, people who have called Wright’s claim to be Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto a lie. As a result, Bitcoin SV (BSV) was delisted from several major exchanges, including Binance.

At the same time it disclosed the investment, Drive Markets’ announced that its Drive Pay, a real-time remittance and settlement network for crypto and fiat currencies, will be run on a Bitcoin SV (BSV) ledger, and will use BSV coins as a bridge currency for liquidity, according to a press release. The company said that Drive Pay is a cross-blockchain platform targeting traders in capital markets and the foreign exchange market. It has its own utility token, Drive Coin (DRV), launched on April 3.

Drive’s release makes clear that the investment and partnership is all about boosting BSV as an enterprise (or permissioned) blockchain platform, at least for Ayre and Wright. In fact, it flat-out says it: “Ayre… expects the undisclosed investment which is in the multiple seven figures, to provide a significant boost to BSV enterprise usage and transaction volume.”

Drive says its support of BSV is because of its scalability. The release also takes several swipes at Bitcoin (BTC) in its Bitcoin Core appellation in this regard, noting that BSV just created a pair of 128 MB blocks which can handle more than 800 transactions per second. And, apparently, is preparing for gigabyte and terabyte blocks. “For comparison, Bitcoin Core BTC has a small 1MB block cap,” it added.

Ayre is quoted as saying “Drive recognizes the original Bitcoin vision, now back in the form of Bitcoin SV, works at a massive scale. I look forward to seeing the Drive Pay network process huge amounts of transactions on the BSV blockchain, and further unleash the true power of Bitcoin.”

Drive has partnered with MetaTrader, which has a trading platform popular with forex traders, and First Data, a database provider and consulting firm focused on the finance, technology and energy markets. Drive Markets promises, “a crypto trading experience synonymous with forex trading.”

Source By Leo Jakobson: https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/craig-wright-calvin-ayre-drive-markets/

the price will fall slow to 3000 dollars, go to the dollar now or to BitcoinSV,
it not to fall more, the BSV price is minimal now

guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks

For genius forgivable almost any behavior

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/166/kleiman-v-wright/

Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 1 of 4



                                   UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                                   SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

                                 CASE NO. 18-CIV-80176-Bloom/Reinhart


  IRA KLEIMAN, as personal representative of
  the estate of David Kleiman, and
  W&K INFO DEFENSE RESEARCH, LLC.

                 PlaintiffS,

         v.

  CRAIG WRIGHT

                 Defendant.

  ___________________________________/

   ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S MOTION REGARDING PRODUCTION OF A LIST OF
   THE PUBLIC ADDRESSES OF HIS BITCOIN AS OF DECEMBER 31, 2013 [DE 155]

         Before the Court is the Defendant’s Sealed Motion Regarding Production of a List of the

  Public Addresses of his Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013 (“the Bitcoin Holdings Motion.”) [DE

  155]. The Defendant filed a Motion to Seal the Bitcoin Holdings Motion, DE 151, which the

  undersigned granted. DE 153. Plaintiffs filed their Response under seal. DE 162. For the reasons

  stated below, the Court finds that redacted, unsealed versions of the Bitcoin Holdings Motion and

  the Plaintiffs’ Response to that motion can be filed in the public record. Nothing contained in the

  instant Order discloses material that remains under seal.

         The Court, sua sponte¸ has reconsidered its Order granting Dr. Wright’s Motion to Seal. It

  is this Court’s general policy that its proceedings are public and Court filings are matters of public

  record. SDFL Local Rule 5.4(a). A party seeking to seal materials related to a discovery motion

  must satisfy the burden for a Rule 26 protective order, that is, good cause. Chicago Tribune Co.

  v. Bridgestone/Firestone, Inc. 263 F.3d 1304, 1312-13 (11th Cir. 2001); FTC v. AbbVie Products,
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  LLC, 713 F.3d 54, 63 (11th Cir. 2013). Having had the opportunity to review the party’s pleadings,

  the Court finds there is good cause to seal portions of the pleadings, but not the pleadings in their

  entirety.   Redacted versions of those pleadings can be filed in the public record without

  compromising the original purpose for sealing them. 1 The Court will allow the parties to be heard

  before finalizing its redactions.

          At issue is whether it would be unduly burdensome for Dr. Wright to produce a list of his

  bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013. This Court has held multiple discovery hearings that

  addressed issues relating to Dr. Wright’s current and past bitcoin holdings. DE 107 at 120-123;

  DE 122 at 61-63; DE 124 at 18-23. Ultimately, the Court ordered Dr. Wright to produce a list of

  his bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, without prejudice to Dr. Wright filing a motion for

  protective order based on undue burden. DE 124 at 18-23.

          Thereafter, Dr. Wright filed an unverified motion in which he identified a number of

  bitcoin public addresses that he mined. Although not delineated as a Motion for Protective Order,

  that is what the pleading is. Dr. Wright asserted that he does not have a complete list of the public

  addresses he owned on any date, including December 31, 2013. He further asserted that in 2011

  he transferred ownership of all his bitcoin to a blind trust. Although he makes the conclusory

  statement that it would be unduly burdensome to produce a list of his bitcoin holdings as of

  December 31, 2013, this conclusion is not supported by facts. In essence, he does not argue undue

  burden, he argues impossibility. The argument that Dr. Wright is incapable of providing an

  accurate listing of his current or historical bitcoin holdings was never presented in any of the prior

  hearings before this Court, when the Court was crafting the scope of discovery. Notably, the



  1
   Remaining under seal are the names of non-parties and the identifying information for the amount
  and identity of certain bitcoin. In addition, discovery material attached to Plaintiffs’ Response as
  Exhibits 1 and 2 remains under seal.
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  Bitcoin Holdings Motion does not refute the obvious response to this argument – get the

  information from the trustee of the blind trust.

         In response to Dr. Wright’s Motion, the Plaintiffs ask the Court to order the following

  additional discovery: (1) make Dr. Wright produce the list of bitcoins owned as of December 31,

  2013; (2) make Dr. Wright identify all bitcoins he transferred to the blind trust in 2011; (3) make

  Dr. Wright produce documents related to the blind trust; (4) make Dr. Wright identify, under oath,

  the identity of the current and past trustees of the blind trust, the beneficiaries of the blind trust,

  and the manner in which the bitcoins were transferred to the blind trust; and (5) permit further

  deposition of Dr. Wright with regard to his ownership and control over bitcoins. DE 162 at 5-6.

  The Court finds that this additional discovery is warranted. The Court has already found that

  tracing Dr. Wright’s bitcoin holdings is relevant to the Plaintiffs’ theft claims. The order to

  produce a list of bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, was a compromise; it was the Court’s

  attempt to provide Plaintiffs with relevant and material evidence without unduly burdening Dr.

  Wright. That Dr. Wright now argues it is not feasible for him to identify the bitcoin he held on

  December 31, 2013, does not diminish Plaintiffs’ entitlement to the pertinent evidence. That

  evidence can be obtained through other means, which the Court will authorize Plaintiffs to use.

         It is therefore ORDERED that:

         1. Dr. Wright’s Motion Regarding Production of a List of the Public Addresses of His

             Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013, [DE 155] which is deemed to be a Motion for

             Protective Order, is DENIED.

         2. The Order to Seal [DE 153] is modified to allow for the filing of redacted copies of DE

             155 and DE 162. The Court will provide copies of its proposed redacted pleadings to

             the parties, but will not yet file those redacted pleadings on the docket. The parties



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             shall notify the Court by May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time if they seek additional

             redactions.

         3. On or before May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall provide to

             Plaintiffs a sworn declaration identifying the name and location of the blind trust, the

             name and contact information for the current trustee and any past trustees, and the

             names and contact information of any current or past beneficiaries.

         4. On or before May 9, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce to

             Plaintiffs a copy of any and all documents relating to the formation, administration, and

             operation of the blind trust.    The production shall be accompanied by a sworn

             declaration of authenticity.

         5. On or before May 15, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce all

             transactional records of the blind trust, including but not limited to any records

             reflecting the transfer of bitcoin into the blind trust in or about 2011. The production

             shall be accompanied by a sworn declaration of authenticity.

         6. Dr. Wright shall execute any and all documents, or other legal process, necessary to

             effectuate the release of documents in the possession, custody, or control of the Trustee.

         7. Any ruling on whether Dr. Wright’s deposition should be re-opened will be deferred

             pending the production described in this Order.

         DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers this 3rd day of May, 2019, at West Palm Beach in

  the Southern District of Florida.




                                             UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE


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$4000 at nov 2020 and $160000 at aug 2023

until the end of 2020 there is nothing to do in BTC, you need to buy BSV  

Calvin Ayre: Courts could rule on ‘consumer fraud’ of cryptos that claim to be Bitcoin https://calvinayre.com/2019/05/09/bitcoin/calvin-ayre-courts-could-rule-on-consumer-fraud-of-cryptos-that-claim-to-be-bitcoin/

The May 8 document of US court Case submitted to US Court Case by Dr. Craig is saying that Dr. Craig mined the earliest 70 blocks. This shows that Dr. Craig is Satoshi , just need some more evidences
and people are buying BSV because of that https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/bmerb5/comment/emwh1dt/

the story always develops in a spiral, the subsequent waves are longer, not the same, so the weekly trend at that time is comparable to the monthly now

@BITMAINtech now controls not only BCH, but on the BSV has more than 51% of the hashrate. https://twitter.com/Aleksan00743929/status/1126860017074880512

to control BTC Bitmain can't because hashrate are very high, but BCH and BSV maybe, that's why he does it

Bitcoin was created not for the sake of fighting with the government, but in order to avoid emission, so control from China is only good

I think the amount of BTC, BCH and BSV will come back to this line

BCH has already grown 4 times, but bitcoin only 2 times, buy BSV before it's too late, it has not grown at all

need all three bitcoins because the loss of dominance started then due to the block size limitation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg50932322#msg50932322

you read inattentively, the competition was the same before, but then there was no loss of dominance https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg50932322#msg50932322

Why do you think Bitmain transferred half of the capacity to BSV, if the yield there is 3 times less? That's right, control of an important and promising coin is important for China

because both plugs are important

legalized LN, so large corporations are buy 

Satoshi is the one who first recieved a patent for this name, it is not even necessary to be the Creator of bitcoin. I advised them to get a patent for large blocks, but they decided to just take a larger

until autumn BTC will fall, and BSV will grow I think








trend drew the letter W, it means Victory, continued growth

 do you have such a cold wallet for the phone?  

https://twitter.com/simplycashapp/status/1131471152533069825

If BSV was a scam, why would
@CalvinAyre
 invest $300 Million dollars into mining equipment that loses all its value in less than 2 years?

That’s $300 000 000. Take just 2 seconds to think about it.

Open your eyes people, the  train is full steam ahead, so get on board!

but if the name of btc stolen by a dominance hashrate, who Scam: btc or bsv?

btc couldn't handle the increasing bsv price and began to fall

do you know that the bottom right now? 

exchanges have already recognized that BSV is better than BTC, for example, @ hitbtc exchange takes fees for withdrawal in the amount of $ 40

BTC will be long in the sidewall, take altcoins

By the way, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi for one simple reason: if it were not so, would now be shown the real Satoshi by move BTC from the old address. There can be no such thing that no one knows who Satoshi is, the community would certainly have reacted in an exhaustive manner to the grant of a patent to Wright if he were not Satoshi. Creator or Wright, or an alien from the future, the other can not be

Altcoins will disappear because bitcoin can do anything and they do not make sense. Only BSV will remain because this is the version of bitcoin with a large block that is needed

BSV 14000 tps
Komodo 10000 tps
Xem 4000 tps
Eos 3000 tps
Xrp 1500 tps

decentralization does not exist, bitcoin manages by Bitmain, and all three types

https://twitter.com/Aleksan00743929/status/1157182235667292160

today against the market are BCH, BSV and BTG - this is the most similar to BTC, I think BTC holders do not believe in the continued growth of domination and move into a similar

Find a difference 

altcoins will sleep another year on the flat, and bitcoin is now growing will continue

BTC or DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52339157#msg52339157

if the hurricane destroyed the private keys, that's a good reason

Btc or Dash?

Good decentralization turns out, few can boast such: DASH chainlock protects from attack by Bitmain, but Bitmain defends from the attacks by Developers through chainlock

new money on the market yet, so the money to transfer to altcoins for growth only from bitcoin

we will grow at times if you fall a little, it is necessary to share

all the more you already many took from us https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52498860#msg52498860

1. at btc blocks time up to 1.5 hours, it's not good enough for pay in stores, but dash now sends all payments instantly with 5000 decentralization masternodes, the miners is an optional second layer of protection. But LN of btc is not decentralization

2. Btc has not privatsend, the recipient of the payment can see how much money you have in your wallet

3. Btc is controlled by China, but the Dash's chainlocks makes such control impossible. DASH chainlock protects from attack by Bitmain, but Bitmain defends from the attacks by Developers through chainlock

A new kind of Analytics;) dash should be in second place on the cap judging by the number of pages on the Bitcointalk you can see how it is now underestimated. 25000 pages of bitcoin, 6000 of Dash, then go Monero, Xem and DGB of 1,800 pages. But XRP upstart, a total of 500 pages, does not need anyone, the growth was illusory and will have to fall

real application so far we have only thise coins: ETH for usdt, DASH for Venezuela and DOGE for transfer between exchanges

thanks for the accent

 the real use is only those coins, the rest are just pyramids! Well, you can add EOS for games and Augur for betting

buy altcoins, they have already come this way

China Launches Blockchain Push Growing Country’s Worrying Influence Over Cryptocurrency
Posted by Justin Szilard | Oct 29, 2019 | News |     

China Launches Blockchain Push Growing Country’s Worrying Influence Over Cryptocurrency
China has embarked on a pro-blockchain push and is making moves towards creating state sanctioned cryptocurrency and blockchain solutions a reality in the country.

Last week, Chinese President Xi Jinping made a speech about wanting to invest more into blockchain and cryptocurrency technology. The Standing Committee of the 13th National People’s Congress then backed this speech with a new law that while not mentioning cryptocurrency directly, “encourages and supports the research and application of the science and technology in cryptography and protects the intellectual property rights in cryptography”.


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🇨🇳 BREAKING: China to launch digital currency “DCEP”

According to this video (to be confirmed), Chinese Central Bank will launch digital currency called DCEP. To be tested and onboarded with commercial banks first.

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Additionally, the Chinese Communist Party’s Propaganda Office also recently implemented “The Heart of the Chain” so party members can record their pledge to the communist party on the blockchain as an ‘”initial heart”. Further, Twitter rumors show that Chinese officials announced their state cryptocurrency, DCEP, which has been in the works for years.
Centralizing cryptocurrency around China

Cryptocurrency is not new to China as the country has had a flurry of activity that they cracked down on during the 2017 price surge, however recent developments may further centralize the industry around the country. The announcement of Facebook’s Libra reportedly accelerated China’s focus on developing its own cryptocurrency. However, the government wants to ensure that their state sanctioned cryptocurrency only has “controllable anonymity” and that the state can see whatever it wants to see relative to a person’s transactions. It can be argued that a state cryptocurrency in China would even allow less privacy than current methods since Chinese can only “officially” monitor money flowing through the banking system and have to work with private companies to monitor mobile payments that never leave apps such as Alipay and WeChat Pay. Cryptocurrency created by the Chinese government would most likely ensure that the government can easily view the history of as many addresses as possible and link them to a personal identity.

Additionally, there is growing risk in even the open-source cryptocurrency sector, especially for Bitcoin, that growing mining centralization within China may risk the security of the network due to potential geopolitical actions. Half of Bitcoin’s mining hashrate comes from just 4 mining pools and “[a]s of June 2018, over 80% of Bitcoin mining is performed by six mining pools, and five of those six pools are managed by individuals or organizations located in China”, according to research from Princeton University and Florida International University. This heavy centralization of critical network infrastructure within a single and oftentimes hostile jurisdiction, combined with the fact that Bitcoin has a low difficulty adjustment at every 2,016 blocks, can cause further disruptions to the chain beyond just a lower hashrate that increases security vulnerabilities. As recently seen in the Bitcoin Cash mining issue, the network swung from producing blocks too rapidly to going hours without producing a single block.

Dash mitigates centralization risks

While still claiming a majority of its mining infrastructure within the country, Dash may be more resistant to the heavy influence China has on cryptocurrency than many competitors. Dash employs both miners and masternodes to secure the network thanks to ChainLocks, which leverages the masternode network to lock in the first seen block on the network, preventing it from being reversed, even in the event of an attempted 51% mining attack. Additionally, Dash’s infrastructure is spread more evenly around the world, with a slight majority of mining power in China while the large majority of masternodes, while owned and operated from all over the world, hosted in western Europe and North America. This significantly reduces the risk of a single jurisdiction, or a collection of allied powers, temporarily disrupting the network by compelling mining pool operators or masternode hosting providers to act against their best interests. Finally, Dash’s Dark Gravity Wave adjusts the mining difficulty every block, better ensuring that Dash is less vulnerable to disruption from rapid changes in hashrate, and therefore the various geopolitical occurrences that may lead to hashrate changes.

https://dashnews.org/china-launches-blockchain-push-growing-countrys-worrying-influence-over-cryptocurrency/

Sell, wait for 3200 and then buy bitcoins. In altcoins there is no sense at all, bitcoin will screw everything if necessary: masternodes and instantsend from DASH, side chains and DEX from Komodo, a large block from BSV, smart contracts from BCH, etc. Altcoins are only needed for testing new technologies

Woe is all, no one has answered correctly why the crypt will grow (the only question is - which): any invention entails a need for it, so it is evil. The creation of clothes led to the disappearance of their own fur, now without clothes is not only ugly, but also cold, and it must be washed and bought

why do you think badly of me? if the buyer will not found, then I will tell everyone this for free in this  topic

I use a translator, do not find fault with the my words, the block on which 66 bitcoins and I know that they can not be spent

the key is restored by changing the time and vulnerability of a pseudo random number generator, generating all sorts of keys for the same time, and as variables that are multiplied by known time of creation of the pair, are substituted all sorts of values of temperature, Mac address, RAM, and so on

I have already reported the first part of the information, which is worth 50 bitcoins, so if you want to know the second part, I am waiting for the transfer of all 100 bitcoins at once!

knowledge cannot be scam, it can only be the application of knowledge

bitcoin buy early, the price will return to 3500 and more than once. Buy housing in Moscow. Syria and Iran have proven that the air defense and rockets they have better which means better security



Price in Moscow

What is BTC: controlling hashrate in China, but America owns the Internet

1) any invention is evil, appear a recalculation of the complexity of reality and need for this invention appear
2) anarchy and decentralization are also evil, people will kill each other without control

The price of 6666 will hold until the coronavirus runs out