All posts made by TheKoziTwo in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 1897835 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.53h):
Someone just bought 1 million USD worth of BTC. And another guy sold half million USD worth of BTC. Insane.
How do you see that someone just sold for ˝m $?
I just saw that too.
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Post 1902537 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.53h):
I think we can post whatever we want here. I haven't seen any posts deleted and OP said that it isn't actually being moderated.
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Post 1961094 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.54h):
Can someone explain to me why many people use millibitcoin instead of actual bitcoin? I saw some people talk about it but I still don't get what makes it 'better'? Isn't it essentially just BTC/1000?
Some claim that it's easier to price products such as 1.9 mBTC rather than 0.0019 BTC or 250 mBTC rather than 0.25 BTC. Also, it may be less of a psychological barrier to purchase 100 mBTC than 0.1 BTC. We can already hear complaints such as "bitcoin is too costly, I can't afford it", despite the fact that it's possible to purchase less than 1 BTC.. So if everyone starts using mBTC it may have a positive effect on the price, it doesn't sound as costly to pay $0.12 for a mBTC compared to $120 for a BTC. Just look at the alternative chains, even though they have a lot more coins, the price seems to be going up quite high regardless. E.g litecoin is about $4, but there will be 84 million coins, so essentially if we compare to bitcoin that's $4*$4, $16 at the moment, what bitcoin wasn't even worth in the beginning of this year.
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Post 1980094 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.54h):
Worth listening to:
http://youtu.be/59uTUpO8Dzw?t=19m14s(starts at 19m14s)
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Post 1989601 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
Looks like we managed to get back up again, despite a nasty fall
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Post 1994115 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
"I think it will reach $1M (per BTC) before Christmas this year" - rpietila
That's a pretty bold prediction, if he really thinks that, he could easily think that price won't go below $115 *ever* again and be wrong. Bitcoin obviously won't go to 1 million dollar per coin this year. I'm a strong bull myself, but that's just silly bubble talk.
The question is how to take his put and not risk getting scammed? (I'm not interested in a put since I only hold, but I don't think the put itself is the problem, I think it's the risk of fraud)
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Post 1998175 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
i'm sure i'm gonna regret this. i just know i am. but... i gotta ask.
what the hell is this supernode thing? i see it mentioned in rpietila's sig... but ... what does it mean?
Replace 'node' with 'ego' and it will all become clear
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Post 2015174 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
R.I.P panic sellers
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Post 2022063 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
The 10-30% weekly increase in adoption (weekly % growth of the # of bitcoin users)
Where did you get those numbers?
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Post 2029860 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
hes just a driver of some rich guy or just pay some $ to take this photo. hes a scammer.
This car is owned by this hotel Haikon Kartano and this spot in front of the hotel is not an uncommon place to find this car spend its days parked at.
Ah yes, I see now :
Love that polished image! Is there anyone here who is not a supernode yet? Maybe time to buy
0.0th class supernode = BTC1M
0.5th class supernode = BTC100,000
1.0st class supernode = BTC10,000
1.5th class supernode = BTC3,000
2.0nd class supernode = BTC1,000
2.5th class supernode = BTC300
3.0th class supernode = BTC100
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Post 2030089 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Haha oh man, rpietila and his supernodes may become some sort of meme
But in all seriousness, $300k per bitcoin in 2013 is very delusional. Kind of reminds me of how Bruce Wagner went on and on with "price can only go UP UP UP" and "$10000 within the year" back in 2011.
rpietila, you can't ask people to prove a negative, if you believe the price will reach $300k within 2013 it's up to you to lay out the proofs or reasons why you believe so. Sure, facebook as had some wild adoption, but why would bitcoin have the same? it could take years before that happen... You said you pulled the rate of 10-30% weekly growth out of a hat, so it doesn't mean anything. You also don't know the current number of users nor do you know the amount of bitcoins available for sale. It's all speculation and silly bubble talk.
But $300k a coin? A man can dream can't he? A man can dream.
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Post 2041624 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Heck, it could even be this guy:
...or this guy
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Post 2051982 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
And the great almighty manipulator has struck again!
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Post 2055550 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
I'm in such a big shit situation, lol
Why?
, lol, at each 1% of btc down it goes 3-4, 25% loss at the moment, if btc crashes it will go to oblivion, though it might happen without that too, hehe
Recovered from first purchase though and made profit, but decided to go in again. I'll wait for another, it will come - now or in 2 years
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Post 2062185 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
What. Out of all possibilities a few hours ago, this one seemed the most unlikely.
Tell me about it. I sold at 98.99 with a buy order at 97.89. Looks like I will be taking a loss on that position.
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Post 2062247 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
There are 11.6k BTC down to $100, in the other direction it will take us past $119. I'm holding.
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Post 2062427 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
"I would argue very strongly that the rigid application of US financial reporting rules would bring [bitcoin] to a stop pretty quickly. And that is all the authorities really need to do. Volumes in Bitcoin are far too small for it to be worthwhile filing all the paperwork that could be demanded: so if it is demanded then financial institutions will simply stop handling any payments or transfers that have anything at all to do with Bitcoin. "
FUD or serious shit?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/05/07/now-this-really-could-make-a-dent-in-bitcoin/If true,it would to a massive crash, back to sub 50. But its from forbes, so take it with a bag of salt..
I think it's inevitable that we will see something like this happen eventually. And it will certainly cause a pretty big crash in the price. But in the end does it really matter? It will just slow the growth for a while, but ultimately bitcoin can not be stopped and continues to provide a very useful service.
And also, luckily the US isn't the entire world (yet).
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Post 2136096 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
big sell wall pushing the price down. Is it a short and distort?
Its an Idiot Wall. Either an idiot trying to push the price down, or an idiot thinking they were 'selling into (non-existent) strength' when it was rising up to 118, hahaha. Seems more likely to be someone trying to push it down.
You can't speculatively (profitably) long bitcoins, you can only short. So it's probably some supernode trying their capabilities (American likely), but I will be impressed only after breaching $.11. If I can do $.119->$.09752 in 3 days, surely others can do even better!
Um, you mention the word 'supernode' quite often but I don't understand what you mean by it.
0.0th class supernode = BTC1M
0.5th class supernode = BTC100,000
1.0st class supernode = BTC10,000
1.5th class supernode = BTC3,000
2.0nd class supernode = BTC1,000
2.5th class supernode = BTC300
3.0th class supernode = BTC100
So where does my huge stash of 3.2
BTC fit into this equation? Do I get invited to the next conference or do I need to make a couple more first?
It doesn't. But hey, at least you're in
hitler club (2.1 BTC).
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Post 2150840 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I'm still holding.
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Post 2158308 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
It is not improbable that a separate charge is lodged against Mark Karpeles and be extradited, being single owner of Mutum Sigillum LLC, based in Delaware.
Isn't Mark attending bitcoin2013 ? It's located in the US, so that would be a good time to arrest him wouldn't it? Not that Japan wouldn't extradite him. But this sounds like a good opportunity to bring him to "justice" quickly.
I really really hope Mark never visits the US. But who knows.
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Post 2158350 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
It is not improbable that a separate charge is lodged against Mark Karpeles and be extradited, being single owner of Mutum Sigillum LLC, based in Delaware.
Isn't Mark attending bitcoin2013 ? It's located in the US, so that would be a good time to arrest him wouldn't it? Not that Japan wouldn't extradite him. But this sounds like a good opportunity to bring him to "justice" quickly.
Yes, but I hope they don't. The law may be the law, and Mt Gox can improve, but he doesn't deserve to be arrested for this.
US doesn't have a working justice system, very few who is in prison there deserves it.
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Post 2159301 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
What a piece of shit Mt Gox is. I really hope this guy goes to jail. In my life i have seen such an incompetence. How many millions have been lost due to this guy inability to run this company.
Your are free to start your own and better exchange.
He got the best Magic the Gathering cards, he just found one day that he was running a billion dollar company (or exchange to a billion dollar market). So instead of playing with mages and trolls cards he just started to play businessman being absolutely horrible at it and making thousands of savers lose their hard earned money. Just one catastrophic failure after the other and never learn.
Mark didn't start mt.gox, it was the previous owner whom this magic the gathering card plan originated from.
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Post 2159413 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
What a piece of shit Mt Gox is. I really hope this guy goes to jail. In my life i have seen such an incompetence. How many millions have been lost due to this guy inability to run this company.
Your are free to start your own and better exchange.
He got the best Magic the Gathering cards, he just found one day that he was running a billion dollar company (or exchange to a billion dollar market). So instead of playing with mages and trolls cards he just started to play businessman being absolutely horrible at it and making thousands of savers lose their hard earned money. Just one catastrophic failure after the other and never learn.
Mark didn't start mt.gox, it was the previous owner whom this magic the gathering card plan originated from.
Again...
What argument is that? I am good at my own profession. I run and administer some services 24x7 and i have some Service level agreements to comply with. If i don't comply i have to pay absolutely severe fines. Why is MtGox going unharmed for all their incompetence?
If i go to ear a concert and nobody plays music i cannot complain?? If i go to a restaurant and instead of food i get chlodric acid i cannot complain? They get fined. MtGox goes unharmed always and i cannot even complain?
That reasoning you just posted (why don't you do it yourself) would end job specialization. If i am a dentist i can do well my job but i require a good service from some other ...
So let me see, should i also study law to be my own judge and study politics and be my own senator or if not i cannot complain ...? Don't understand your argument really
I think mt.gox has been doing a pretty decent job all things considered, it's very demanding to run an exchange.
To answer your example: If you're not happy with the restaurant you go to another one next time, you can complain all you want, but in the end if a lot of people keep going to that restaurant you detest so much perhaps it's not really the restaurant that is the problem but the lack of better alternatives? That leaves you only one option: create that better alternative.
It doesn't help to complain if there are no better alternatives. And if there are, well then it should be pretty simple right? People just start using those alternatives.
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Post 2159426 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do.
- Benjamin Franklin
+1
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Post 2159543 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do.
- Benjamin Franklin
+1
wow those are beautiful words, you even have a picture ...
so customers cannot complain? I used to be system administrator for a very important telecom company and took care of many systems running critical services and when there were outages (there are always unexpected problems of course) everyone and his mother would do everything in heaven and hell to make sure that the same problem would not happen again.
I see outages here everywhere ... Some companies give a discount when there are outages, some others publish some kind words. Seriously i am really patient, and really understand many problems that might arise with administration but lately things are getting slightly out of control ...
Complain all you want, just don't come with bullshit such as "mark should go to jail".
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Post 2182070 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Looks like
superman with his massive 9k buy wall once again comes to the rescue. Great to have you back, superman. Now,
time for celebration and a lot of panic buying
Thank god I'm still holding.
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Post 2182100 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
There's a correction coming. Doubt we'll break through 120.
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Post 2182659 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
It seems like Bitstamp clearly doesn't give a shit right about now...
It looks like the gap between mtgox and bitstamp will widen increasingly until in a few days or weeks when/if mtgox pulls through and isn't shut down, and the dwolla-reaction BTC rushes back in, bitcoin blasts off whilst mtgox suffers a major correction. Damn I wish I had a USD bank account for the arbitrage
LOL. WTF ? Were you seriously expecting MtGox to be shut down ?
They are not in the US, US law doesn't apply in Japan. Get real.
Megaupload Limited,[1] best known for its closed websites including the top-15 file hosting service megaupload.com,[1] is an online
Hong Kong–based company established in 2005 that ran online services related to file storage and viewing. The domain names were seized, and the sites associated with Megaupload were
shut down by the United States Department of Justice on 19 January 2012,
following the indictment and arrests of the owners for allegedly operating as an organization dedicated to copyright infringement.[3] HK$330 million (approximately US$42 million) worth of assets were frozen
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Post 2191579 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
There's truth to that but a bank is amoral. It's just a building. It's the people that make it "evil". We're just trading one group of greed, oppressive bastards for another. Heck, a few pages back or so there was talk of starting their own bank in some other country. See, Bitcoin is not about hating the banks, its about not being in control. They want to take control from the current rich and powerful, so they can be the ones in control and be the same greedy bastards we have now.
You know what...I'm going to the beach to hang out with the lowly poor people. As I refer to me, them, most of us...the mainstream. Not about to wreck my day over a stupid thread.
Thanks for the +1 brother.
Most bitcoin pioneers are of the voluntaryist & libertarian philosophy. That means we're against the current control structure and do indeed want it replaced, but it doesn't mean we want to replace it with ourself, but simply systems that cannot be controlled. We don't want control, we just don't want to be controlled. Listen to
Milton Friedman, he'll teach you something about greed.
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Post 2203312 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
11 million shares and a global economy that we are only hoping to get a small fraction of a percentage of ? $120 is VERY cheap
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Post 2212610 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
If we look at the market cap of ripple (which now apparently is
TWICE that of bitcoin), we're only decimal shifting away from the price of bitcoin exploding. The human psyche is interesting. The same applies to alternative currencies. It's like if people are unable to think in anything but units. "Oh, 1 BTC costs $122, that's very costly". Yet, ripple costs twice that, if you where to divide by total units. Pretty ridiculous, and a very good reason to adapt mBTC.
A similar effect could even be accomplished by multiplying all bitcoins in existence with say 100x. So everyone who now owns 1 BTC will suddenly own 100 BTC, with a limt of 2100 million instead of 21 million. There is no difference, but I'm convinced the psychological effect of a change like this would cause massive increase in the price.
The evidence is right in front of our eyes, ripple has nowhere the same adaption as bitcoin.
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Post 2212948 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
If we look at the market cap of ripple (which now apparently is
TWICE that of bitcoin), we're only decimal shifting away from the price of bitcoin exploding. The human psyche is interesting. The same applies to alternative currencies. It's like if people are unable to think in anything but units. "Oh, 1 BTC costs $122, that's very costly". Yet, ripple costs twice that, if you where to divide by total units. Pretty ridiculous, and a very good reason to adapt mBTC.
A similar effect could even be accomplished by multiplying all bitcoins in existence with say 100x. So everyone who now owns 1 BTC will suddenly own 100 BTC, with a limt of 2100 million instead of 21 million. There is no difference, but I'm convinced the psychological effect of a change like this would cause massive increase in the price.
The evidence is right in front of our eyes, ripple has nowhere the same adaption as bitcoin.
What's happening with Ripple is a joke. A couple of months ago they gave away 50K to anybody with a bitcointalk.org account who asked for it. A lot of members bought forum accounts, and have accumulated hundreds of thousand/millions of XRP.
Today, $1 buys you roughly 50 Ripples - that means that the Ripple founders just "gave away" $1,000 to everybody who asked for them a couple of months ago, and they are sitting on +$1B potential profit at this very moment - with their buggy software in early Beta, with only a trusted Gateway in the system (Bitstamp) and without having proved anything (there's a lot of security concernes that need to be tested). Obviously the $1,5B market cap is just "theory", because there is no market for 100B Ripples ATM, but it illustrates how crazy is this shit, and how rich the OpenCoin founders can become with their business model.
Even if Ripple is "half a failure", they will be all set for life. IMO it's an horrible product from a philosophic point of view (actually it allows anyone to create "money out of thin air" through IOU's, I can foresee epic scams coming, everybody can be a bank running fractional reserve), but it is a BRILLIANT idea for their creators.. It's the ultimate get-rich-quick scheme.... But only for them.
As soon as they want to cash out, they will destroy the market - heck, they say the will hold onto 20% of the total currency that will
ever be created. And now tell me about the FED. They are the ultimate centralized power.
+1
But why? god why are people paying that much? It's not possible to justify such massive market cap when bitcoin, which has been here for years and has countless merchants, is worth less. It must be purely human psyche at play. People are unable to differentiate between units of different market caps and it leads to it being ridiculously overpriced.
There are people getting rich here, without bringing much value to the table. I'm definitivly not buying ripples any time soon.
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Post 2213469 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Ripple
i think we all should do some home work
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Post 2213589 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Bitcoin = Napster
Ripple = iTunes
Napster was centralized by the way. That's how it got shut down. If anything, put the equal sign between bitcoin and bittorrent if you want an analogy.
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Post 2214205 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
What I mean when I use that analogy is that Napster started the music download revolution but in the end was killed and it was iTunes that came in and did it the right way.
The foundation of Bitcoin is solid but it's full of flaws the Bitcoin community refuses to address. Add to that, the continued refusal (As if it would even be possible to avoid) to submit to regulations. This will kill bitcoin on a mass adoption scale faster than anything.
Ripple, like iTunes is prepared to play nice and work within the confines of the law. Not to mention, doing all the things Bitcoin could have done, but didn't.
Regulation is a problem mkay? Bitcoin was made to solve this problem. You want regulation? Just use the banks, use paypal, use the now dead e-gold.
How you can talk about regulations as something necessary to bring bitcoin mainstream is beyond me. That invalidates the whole point of bitcoin in the first place and it makes me wonder what you are doing here.
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Post 2214633 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
What I mean when I use that analogy is that Napster started the music download revolution but in the end was killed and it was iTunes that came in and did it the right way.
The foundation of Bitcoin is solid but it's full of flaws the Bitcoin community refuses to address. Add to that, the continued refusal (As if it would even be possible to avoid) to submit to regulations. This will kill bitcoin on a mass adoption scale faster than anything.
Ripple, like iTunes is prepared to play nice and work within the confines of the law. Not to mention, doing all the things Bitcoin could have done, but didn't.
Regulation is a problem mkay? Bitcoin was made to solve this problem. You want regulation? Just use the banks, use paypal, use the now dead e-gold.
How you can talk about regulations as something necessary to bring bitcoin mainstream is beyond me. That invalidates the whole point of bitcoin in the first place and it makes me wonder what you are doing here.
Why use Paypal when I can have incredibly low transaction fees? Makes no sense. It might invalidate YOUR view of Bitcoin but that's not what it's going to be moving forward.
Because bitcoin is very unstable and you may very well lose a lot more than paypal fees when buying and selling using bitcoin. So it makes perfect sense.
We'll regulate it or we'll kill it. Meaning blackball it from any mainstream existence and reduce it to a black market only currency that legitamate business wont touch with a 10 foot pole.
Like we regulated e-gold? Yeah, that worked out real nice. Anyhow, that's why I love bitcoin, it can't be regulated, no matter how much you would love it, it just won't happen.
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Post 2227149 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Just stay on your toes, that's all I'm saying.
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Post 2227239 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
It's different this time™
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Post 2229325 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Cool. When is your exchange launching?
Oh right, unless you run an existing exchange, you can't possibility comment on how MtGox is run. Maybe those 7 people on the planet can chime in.
Are you 6 years old (and/or retarded)?
You can comment all you want.
Meanwhile, they are there and making money.
If things were this simple, they would have been out-competed years ago.
Or you have an incredible business opportunity.
So... when is your exchange launching?
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Post 2229432 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
They are working on a new trading engine atm, when it's released perhaps you will finally get your ultra fast trading fantasy fulfilled. The only thing they have done so far is to upgrade their servers.
And if they never manage to improve their engine, well, then it's reasonable to assume they will eventually lose their market share isn't it? and when they do you'll still get your trading fantasy fulfilled. It's a win-win situation.
Patience... patience my friend... and if you can't wait for someone else to do all the dirty work, you know what you're free to do.
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Post 2247527 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:
Hi Ben,
We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.
As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.
Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support
Source:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg2243603#msg2243603That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit.
The media could dine out on that.Oh, they have been going on and on for a while already, I'm not too worried:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GFfJVo_KY
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Post 2255579 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
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Post 2257072 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Cash out or not ?
Sure, if you think it's gonna crash to 120 then i would cash out.
I think that it will , but people here are not thinking so :/ but you cant trust anyone here ? I dont know ho to trust and who not to trust
Just trust your won analysis.
In these forums you will see a lot of fun trolling and FUD-spreading, some hilarious gif, and a little useful insights that should just
complement your very own analysis.
I am trusting my sealf but i also want to know wichusefull insights i can trust to make my own decision
If you don't understand that most posters where want you to act on what they post so that THEY will profit, not YOU, then I'm very worried. Your decision needs to be YOUR OWN.
Yes but if no one that is writing here is writing anething of value there is no idea to read at al, only to se some funny gis and pic.
Now you understand! This is all trolling and funny gifs. Also a quick measurement of market sentiment, nothing more.
Awww that so boring :p i want to read and learn in a fun way like this topic . I havnt made judgement on my buy and sell of this topic , and i will probebly never do . But some of my enjoying of this thred just died
Just buy and never sell. When it drops, buy more
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Post 2266287 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
The obvious question now: what are LR users going to transact with instead?
And how many people had money sitting on LR. Seems like a fairly big deal. Without Dwolla, I'd imagine LR was a fairly big chunk of Gox deposits. Surprised no one is talking about this, they were down all day Friday. Maybe not that many people used LR.
Wow this is HUGE big shitz, LR is a gigantic washing machine with millions transiting, many exchange business that deals with LR also do bitcoin, like Aurumxchange. Expect big Losses due to this shutdown for whole digital currency community.
Well BTC is Monopoly now , heck i'm turning ubber bull, i'm holding btc for long, to hell with short term trading.
Very sad news, USA just can't stay out of anything can they? But at the same time, this is probably quite bullish for bitcoin. LR was the new e-gold, every HYIP, autosurf and similar business was using LR...It was quite massive, tons of people where using it. Now those people can go to perfect money, hdmoney etc, but the same thing could happen there... Perhaps people will start looking for real alternatives that can't be shutdown, otherwise this trend will continue. Money laundering = transfering money outside of the banking system. Such BS charges.
edit: just checked a few of those forums, there is desperation... half of all topics on first page was about liberty reserve.
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Post 2266414 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
The question now is, how much money did mtgox lose? bitinstant? aurumexchange? btc-e? There must be some significant losses here, who are the bag holders and what are they gonna do? Personally I transfered most of my LR into BTC-E only some weeks back, so I doubt I lost much.
I'm not sure I agree that people will start dumping BTC for fiat after LR was just closed, mark could be arrested for money laundering too. If anything, it seems more reasonable that people will buy BTC to secure themselves against such attacks.
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Post 2271679 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Yeah, I will haunt your dreams.
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Post 2280769 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
If you're a capitalist coinseeker, you should welcome the revolutionary aspect of bitcoin, as it can help us to enable true capitalism instead of what we have today, which is not capitalism, but corporatism.
Ready for next week.
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Post 2288356 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Who when to bet if we going back to 132 this 5k wall disappears..
Yes painting the tape I say, lesson learnt,
i'm holding.What if it paints it lower? Say the 5k wall moves to $130?
Then he will be like:
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Post 2288677 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Who when to bet if we going back to 132 this 5k wall disappears..
Yes painting the tape I say, lesson learnt, i'm holding.
What if it paints it lower? Say the 5k wall moves to $130?
that will be bought,
i cant imagine people are that fool.. well i guess (or hope=))
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Post 2288697 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
^^ haha looks like it turned out just like that
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Post 2288734 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Wow look how the wall is being eaten!!
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Post 2288752 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
and up we go
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Post 2288820 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
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Post 2288892 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
It was bought in rapid, multiple chunks. Kind of looked like someone buying their own wall, mixed with a few panic buyers and bots. Either that, or there where a lot of buyers ready to buy.... if it was one buyer it would have made sense to just buy it all in one go.
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Post 2289035 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, bit by bit across a period of 60 seconds or so, which is puzzling.
Even more puzzling perhaps, is that these seemingly multiple buyers bought up such a massive wall in a matter of 60 seconds, yet, now that the wall is gone, the buying pressure that ate 7k in one minute seemed to have vanished. Leads me to believe this was mostly one person.
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Post 2289079 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
Removed (after 1k was bought)
I watched it live, looked like it all was bought, and volume is almost 7k so seems right.
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Post 2289162 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
Removed (after 1k was bought)
I watched it live, looked like it all was bought, and volume is almost 7k so seems right.
there is not buy volume 7k (last hour) Wall removed when volume dropped below 6k
Then what is this:
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Post 2289198 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Does anyone know of a good way to see history of all trades?
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Post 2289270 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Weeeee, panic re-buy time!
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Post 2289287 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
That's not history of all trades.
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Post 2289496 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Proof that it was bought:
Date - Price - Amount
2013-05-27 19:52:36 - 125.39999 - 0.1744
2013-05-27 19:52:37 - 125.39999 - 0.19978566
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 3
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 0.80905375
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.7968
2013-05-27 19:52:41 - 125.39999 - 0.51803335
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.0159
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 2.52692387
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.72814844
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:52:54 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:55 - 125.00001 - 0.17457963
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 4
2013-05-27 19:52:58 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:53:04 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:05 - 125.00001 - 1
2013-05-27 19:53:06 - 125.00001 - 5
2013-05-27 19:53:07 - 125.00001 - 0.65556585
2013-05-27 19:53:09 - 125.00001 - 0.17775732
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 1.27031713
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 5.90158194
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:17 - 125.00001 - 0.17735811
2013-05-27 19:53:18 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.235 - 0.012
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.26 - 0.488
2013-05-27 19:53:26 - 125 - 0.59210697
2013-05-27 19:53:31 - 125 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.69666 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.87499 - 0.44488987
2013-05-27 19:53:39 - 124.87499 - 0.53289628
2013-05-27 19:53:41 - 124.87499 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:43 - 124.69666 - 0.07999999
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:47 - 124.69666 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 1.6936
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 13.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.0801946
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:54 - 124.5 - 0.47965995
2013-05-27 19:54:01 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:06 - 124.44999 - 0.17740837
2013-05-27 19:54:07 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:08 - 124.44999 - 0.05493797
2013-05-27 19:54:09 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:10 - 124.44999 - 0.25
2013-05-27 19:54:12 - 124.4 - 0.43362034
2013-05-27 19:54:14 - 124.4 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.4 - 3.17376295
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.5 - 1.82623705
2013-05-27 19:54:21 - 124.44999 - 0.2
2013-05-27 19:54:22 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:25 - 124.44999 - 0.09814
2013-05-27 19:54:26 - 124.49999 - 0.29215313
2013-05-27 19:54:27 - 124.49999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:29 - 124.49 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49 - 0.4866588
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49999 - 1.5133412
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.49999 - 0.24550567
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.5 - 0.42846803
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.49998 - 0.02628251
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 0.03051749
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 7.14492288
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.66566 - 7.85507712
2013-05-27 19:54:42 - 124.66566 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:49 - 124.66565 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:51 - 124.66566 - 4.64492288
2013-05-27 19:54:52 - 124.69666 - 2.21640001
2013-05-27 19:54:54 - 124.989 - 0.3775
2013-05-27 19:55:07 - 124.8 - 0.18438116
2013-05-27 19:55:12 - 124.28041 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 0.01317586
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 11.74464587
2013-05-27 19:55:19 - 124.4 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 3.56
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 0.00866493
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.8 - 1
2013-05-27 19:55:25 - 124.8 - 0.25230483
2013-05-27 19:55:26 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:27 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:37 - 124.49999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.49999 - 0.05876381
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.5 - 0.16831054
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 12.506
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:43 - 124.5 - 0.42699999
2013-05-27 19:55:53 - 124.49999 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:55:57 - 124.49999 - 0.20491409
2013-05-27 19:56:00 - 124.49999 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.49999 - 0.03408591
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.5 - 0.11281409
2013-05-27 19:56:06 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:07 - 124.4 - 2.3397
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.18442268
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:56:11 - 124.4 - 14.55
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 17.25
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 0.01861133
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.4 - 15.07726599
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49 - 0.37545368
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49996 - 5.84745979
2013-05-27 19:56:24 - 124.49996 - 0.16599524
2013-05-27 19:56:26 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:27 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:28 - 124.39 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:56:37 - 124.39 - 0.14939572
2013-05-27 19:56:43 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:51 - 124.38999 - 1.60807928
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 2.39192072
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 0.13446935
2013-05-27 19:56:58 - 124.39 - 0.31607
2013-05-27 19:57:07 - 124.38999 - 0.12114133
2013-05-27 19:57:15 - 124.38999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:57:17 - 124.38999 - 2
2013-05-27 19:57:22 - 124.38999 - 0.1090272
2013-05-27 19:57:23 - 124.39 - 4.0196
2013-05-27 19:57:27 - 124.38 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.37999 - 0.20947047
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.38 - 2.5585
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.39 - 48.86381742
2013-05-27 19:57:31 - 124.39 - 0.3212
2013-05-27 19:57:36 - 124.39 - 4.24559112
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.39 - 36.36993567
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 10
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 53.63006433
2013-05-27 19:57:44 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.4 - 77.82007891
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.49996 - 1.98654497
2013-05-27 19:57:50 - 124.8 - 0.26951401
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 1.5
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 2.9703
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.9 - 0.09
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.7648699
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.32434631
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.899 - 4.472
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 2.51603117
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 1.03989513
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 7.801
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 0.33164658
2013-05-27 19:58:02 - 124.99999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.9 - 0.0829493
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.995 - 4.29176991
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.99999 - 2.62035342
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.00099693
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 100
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 2.5079614
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:13 - 125.39999 - 17
2013-05-27 19:58:15 - 125.39999 - 2.425
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39998 - 0.93099348
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39999 - 0.03900652
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.39999 - 12.83599348
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.499 - 4.4739
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5 - 0.00876965
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5002 - 0.22677158
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.54723 - 0.37459
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.5625 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.595 - 2.61318027
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.6 - 2.27445936
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.71173 - 0.02205884
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.80823 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.86999 - 18.1773
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.89 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01199987
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01193388
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.9 - 44
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.97333 - 3
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99 - 14.5
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99998 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99999 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 126 - 165.34644307
2013-05-27 19:58:20 - 126 - 1.02731722
2013-05-27 19:58:22 - 126 - 131.7063
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.72433 - 0.02205951
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.99999 - 7.50644515
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 300.22576888
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 0.55320309
2013-05-27 19:58:30 - 125.99999 - 4.58462163
2013-05-27 19:58:31 - 126 - 16.54148476
2013-05-27 19:58:34 - 126 - 1.14513761
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 172.54924666
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 1.99079222
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 15
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 5.74897428
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 96.18136507
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 44.2698
2013-05-27 19:58:39 - 126 - 1.7381
2013-05-27 19:58:40 - 126 - 160
2013-05-27 19:58:42 - 126 - 49.49946055
2013-05-27 19:58:43 - 126 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:46 - 126 - 11.75500452
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 30
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 29.63479833
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 7.67388809
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 20.793
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 20
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 125.99 - 0.3
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 6.80031
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 4
2013-05-27 19:58:56 - 126 - 313.0158
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 1.5873
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:58 - 125.99995 - 500
2013-05-27 19:59:01 - 125.99995 - 0.0135
2013-05-27 19:59:03 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:04 - 125.99995 - 25.86361669
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 20.5578
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 365.82299143
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 2.3
2013-05-27 19:59:07 - 125.99995 - 47.41224976
2013-05-27 19:59:08 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:13 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:17 - 125.99995 - 8.9171
2013-05-27 19:59:18 - 125.99995 - 133
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 25
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 0.571
2013-05-27 19:59:21 - 125.99995 - 19.62836604
2013-05-27 19:59:22 - 125.99995 - 79.3651
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 9.8016
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:24 - 125.99995 - 0.2142
2013-05-27 19:59:25 - 125.99995 - 535.4070446
2013-05-27 19:59:26 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:28 - 125.99995 - 2.81960278
2013-05-27 19:59:29 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99495 - 0.80155241
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 10.72038933
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:31 - 125.9999 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.9999 - 0.01458267
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 0.07217904
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 23.5
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 14.00153
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 21.06959796
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 14.5397
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 11.32017538
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99995 - 3.67982462
2013-05-27 19:59:37 - 125.99995 - 0.275
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:40 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99495 - 0.24161207
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99989 - 3.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99989 - 16.27331207
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 83.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 200
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 0.1236575
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 4.06548291
2013-05-27 19:59:45 - 125.99995 - 2.852
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 51.2583001
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 0.4
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 668.58121737
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 5.44691718
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 44.18301282
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.99995 - 21.31698718
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 0.82707961
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 9.174
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.9999 - 0.08614272
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 19.91385728
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 2.9583345
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 10.12916282
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 1.43293588
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 30
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 54.31588703
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 23.16946213
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 0.36
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 0.75657649
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2.03097691
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 60
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 41.56196871
2013-05-27 19:59:59 - 125.99995 - 1.24181
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.9
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.87355272
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.9999 - 0.07322131
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 0.98992602
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 196.48322265
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.72
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 0.31721623
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 6.45904
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 11.0159
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 72.5952
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 9
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 24.07676145
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 41.25428065
2013-05-27 20:00:10 - 125.99995 - 0.00155031
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 50
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 15
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 2.21082
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 4.6296
2013-05-27 20:00:16 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 3.92095211
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 191.72156679
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 95
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 65
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 167.64856144
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 8.9
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 5
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 0.746
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 1.52437743
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 12.7122
2013-05-27 20:00:22 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99995 - 25.40832645
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126 - 3.73334028
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126.30078 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.32052 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.54918 - 0.01066253
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.56999 - 1.762E-5
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66257 - 4.4404
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66357 - 0.02199069
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.68862 - 0.02826067
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.08939053
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.09190023
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.71281 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.87722 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92825 - 0.37051
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92883 - 0.01065904
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.93439 - 1.00000001
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.9375 - 0.02492571
Wrote a script in php that calculated total sum bought at 125.99995 (all trades above are bids, no asks).
Bought at 125.99995:
5345.4749053 BTC
66.
Post 2289535 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Proof that it was bought:
Date - Price - Amount
2013-05-27 19:52:36 - 125.39999 - 0.1744
2013-05-27 19:52:37 - 125.39999 - 0.19978566
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 3
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 0.80905375
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.7968
2013-05-27 19:52:41 - 125.39999 - 0.51803335
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.0159
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 2.52692387
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.72814844
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:52:54 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:55 - 125.00001 - 0.17457963
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 4
2013-05-27 19:52:58 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:53:04 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:05 - 125.00001 - 1
2013-05-27 19:53:06 - 125.00001 - 5
2013-05-27 19:53:07 - 125.00001 - 0.65556585
2013-05-27 19:53:09 - 125.00001 - 0.17775732
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 1.27031713
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 5.90158194
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:17 - 125.00001 - 0.17735811
2013-05-27 19:53:18 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.235 - 0.012
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.26 - 0.488
2013-05-27 19:53:26 - 125 - 0.59210697
2013-05-27 19:53:31 - 125 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.69666 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.87499 - 0.44488987
2013-05-27 19:53:39 - 124.87499 - 0.53289628
2013-05-27 19:53:41 - 124.87499 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:43 - 124.69666 - 0.07999999
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:47 - 124.69666 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 1.6936
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 13.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.0801946
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:54 - 124.5 - 0.47965995
2013-05-27 19:54:01 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:06 - 124.44999 - 0.17740837
2013-05-27 19:54:07 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:08 - 124.44999 - 0.05493797
2013-05-27 19:54:09 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:10 - 124.44999 - 0.25
2013-05-27 19:54:12 - 124.4 - 0.43362034
2013-05-27 19:54:14 - 124.4 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.4 - 3.17376295
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.5 - 1.82623705
2013-05-27 19:54:21 - 124.44999 - 0.2
2013-05-27 19:54:22 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:25 - 124.44999 - 0.09814
2013-05-27 19:54:26 - 124.49999 - 0.29215313
2013-05-27 19:54:27 - 124.49999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:29 - 124.49 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49 - 0.4866588
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49999 - 1.5133412
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.49999 - 0.24550567
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.5 - 0.42846803
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.49998 - 0.02628251
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 0.03051749
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 7.14492288
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.66566 - 7.85507712
2013-05-27 19:54:42 - 124.66566 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:49 - 124.66565 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:51 - 124.66566 - 4.64492288
2013-05-27 19:54:52 - 124.69666 - 2.21640001
2013-05-27 19:54:54 - 124.989 - 0.3775
2013-05-27 19:55:07 - 124.8 - 0.18438116
2013-05-27 19:55:12 - 124.28041 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 0.01317586
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 11.74464587
2013-05-27 19:55:19 - 124.4 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 3.56
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 0.00866493
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.8 - 1
2013-05-27 19:55:25 - 124.8 - 0.25230483
2013-05-27 19:55:26 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:27 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:37 - 124.49999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.49999 - 0.05876381
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.5 - 0.16831054
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 12.506
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:43 - 124.5 - 0.42699999
2013-05-27 19:55:53 - 124.49999 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:55:57 - 124.49999 - 0.20491409
2013-05-27 19:56:00 - 124.49999 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.49999 - 0.03408591
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.5 - 0.11281409
2013-05-27 19:56:06 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:07 - 124.4 - 2.3397
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.18442268
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:56:11 - 124.4 - 14.55
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 17.25
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 0.01861133
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.4 - 15.07726599
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49 - 0.37545368
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49996 - 5.84745979
2013-05-27 19:56:24 - 124.49996 - 0.16599524
2013-05-27 19:56:26 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:27 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:28 - 124.39 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:56:37 - 124.39 - 0.14939572
2013-05-27 19:56:43 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:51 - 124.38999 - 1.60807928
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 2.39192072
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 0.13446935
2013-05-27 19:56:58 - 124.39 - 0.31607
2013-05-27 19:57:07 - 124.38999 - 0.12114133
2013-05-27 19:57:15 - 124.38999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:57:17 - 124.38999 - 2
2013-05-27 19:57:22 - 124.38999 - 0.1090272
2013-05-27 19:57:23 - 124.39 - 4.0196
2013-05-27 19:57:27 - 124.38 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.37999 - 0.20947047
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.38 - 2.5585
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.39 - 48.86381742
2013-05-27 19:57:31 - 124.39 - 0.3212
2013-05-27 19:57:36 - 124.39 - 4.24559112
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.39 - 36.36993567
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 10
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 53.63006433
2013-05-27 19:57:44 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.4 - 77.82007891
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.49996 - 1.98654497
2013-05-27 19:57:50 - 124.8 - 0.26951401
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 1.5
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 2.9703
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.9 - 0.09
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.7648699
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.32434631
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.899 - 4.472
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 2.51603117
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 1.03989513
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 7.801
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 0.33164658
2013-05-27 19:58:02 - 124.99999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.9 - 0.0829493
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.995 - 4.29176991
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.99999 - 2.62035342
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.00099693
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 100
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 2.5079614
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:13 - 125.39999 - 17
2013-05-27 19:58:15 - 125.39999 - 2.425
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39998 - 0.93099348
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39999 - 0.03900652
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.39999 - 12.83599348
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.499 - 4.4739
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5 - 0.00876965
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5002 - 0.22677158
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.54723 - 0.37459
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.5625 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.595 - 2.61318027
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.6 - 2.27445936
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.71173 - 0.02205884
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.80823 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.86999 - 18.1773
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.89 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01199987
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01193388
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.9 - 44
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.97333 - 3
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99 - 14.5
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99998 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99999 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 126 - 165.34644307
2013-05-27 19:58:20 - 126 - 1.02731722
2013-05-27 19:58:22 - 126 - 131.7063
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.72433 - 0.02205951
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.99999 - 7.50644515
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 300.22576888
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 0.55320309
2013-05-27 19:58:30 - 125.99999 - 4.58462163
2013-05-27 19:58:31 - 126 - 16.54148476
2013-05-27 19:58:34 - 126 - 1.14513761
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 172.54924666
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 1.99079222
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 15
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 5.74897428
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 96.18136507
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 44.2698
2013-05-27 19:58:39 - 126 - 1.7381
2013-05-27 19:58:40 - 126 - 160
2013-05-27 19:58:42 - 126 - 49.49946055
2013-05-27 19:58:43 - 126 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:46 - 126 - 11.75500452
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 30
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 29.63479833
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 7.67388809
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 20.793
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 20
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 125.99 - 0.3
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 6.80031
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 4
2013-05-27 19:58:56 - 126 - 313.0158
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 1.5873
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:58 - 125.99995 - 500
2013-05-27 19:59:01 - 125.99995 - 0.0135
2013-05-27 19:59:03 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:04 - 125.99995 - 25.86361669
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 20.5578
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 365.82299143
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 2.3
2013-05-27 19:59:07 - 125.99995 - 47.41224976
2013-05-27 19:59:08 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:13 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:17 - 125.99995 - 8.9171
2013-05-27 19:59:18 - 125.99995 - 133
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 25
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 0.571
2013-05-27 19:59:21 - 125.99995 - 19.62836604
2013-05-27 19:59:22 - 125.99995 - 79.3651
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 9.8016
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:24 - 125.99995 - 0.2142
2013-05-27 19:59:25 - 125.99995 - 535.4070446
2013-05-27 19:59:26 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:28 - 125.99995 - 2.81960278
2013-05-27 19:59:29 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99495 - 0.80155241
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 10.72038933
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:31 - 125.9999 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.9999 - 0.01458267
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 0.07217904
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 23.5
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 14.00153
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 21.06959796
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 14.5397
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 11.32017538
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99995 - 3.67982462
2013-05-27 19:59:37 - 125.99995 - 0.275
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:40 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99495 - 0.24161207
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99989 - 3.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99989 - 16.27331207
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 83.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 200
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 0.1236575
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 4.06548291
2013-05-27 19:59:45 - 125.99995 - 2.852
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 51.2583001
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 0.4
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 668.58121737
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 5.44691718
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 44.18301282
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.99995 - 21.31698718
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 0.82707961
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 9.174
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.9999 - 0.08614272
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 19.91385728
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 2.9583345
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 10.12916282
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 1.43293588
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 30
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 54.31588703
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 23.16946213
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 0.36
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 0.75657649
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2.03097691
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 60
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 41.56196871
2013-05-27 19:59:59 - 125.99995 - 1.24181
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.9
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.87355272
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.9999 - 0.07322131
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 0.98992602
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 196.48322265
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.72
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 0.31721623
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 6.45904
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 11.0159
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 72.5952
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 9
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 24.07676145
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 41.25428065
2013-05-27 20:00:10 - 125.99995 - 0.00155031
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 50
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 15
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 2.21082
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 4.6296
2013-05-27 20:00:16 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 3.92095211
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 191.72156679
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 95
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 65
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 167.64856144
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 8.9
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 5
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 0.746
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 1.52437743
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 12.7122
2013-05-27 20:00:22 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99995 - 25.40832645
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126 - 3.73334028
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126.30078 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.32052 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.54918 - 0.01066253
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.56999 - 1.762E-5
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66257 - 4.4404
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66357 - 0.02199069
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.68862 - 0.02826067
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.08939053
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.09190023
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.71281 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.87722 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92825 - 0.37051
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92883 - 0.01065904
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.93439 - 1.00000001
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.9375 - 0.02492571
Wrote a script in php that calculated total sum bought at 125.99995 (all trades above are bids, no asks).
Bought at 125.99995:
5345.4749053 BTCI think .. this wall 6.9k was @ 1 exact price (it was no range)
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Post 2289794 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
5.8k to get there.
I know it's a noobish question, but ... how do you guys calculate how much btc is needed for it to go to "X" price?
I am ashamed,because I traded btc for months now, but didn't know about this.
then hover your mouse over the depth graphs and it will display the amount
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Post 2298719 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Ya, and if bitcoin actually requires us to use TOR or a VPN, how would that benefit mass adoption? That would kill it entirely.
You do not need mass adoption. Sure, to see the $300k per BTC predicted by rptard you need mass adoption. But I personally don't need to see $300k per BTC.
I'm happy with a system that gives me and the ones like me monetary freedom. A decentralized, trust-free system which allows me to store and transfer value independently from financial institutions. A system that no Government can kill, where my funds cannot be seized. Yes, it sounds like "paradise" for black market. The truth is that it is, and what Coinseeker does not seem to understand is how fucking big is black market's economy. But it's also a paradise for those who want an hedge on the current, rotten financial system - as telemaco just said.
If you are worried about not seeing mass adoption and thus "cheaper" coins, do not worry. As you can see with drugs, everything that is banned and difficult/dangerous to get comes with a premium. Yet, I do not think there will ever be 6 figures coins in a global ban scenario - but 4 figures coins? You can take them for GRANTED.
+1
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Post 2322579 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
628 btc needed to reach $131 again
I can totally see a 500/1k buy any minute now.
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Post 2324525 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
But... but... where are all the bulls?
Here
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Post 2331664 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
bitcoin 24 accounts are free apparently .; thats 7milj euro to go somewhere
search for "BTC24 Limited" on facebook.. read it for yourself
This money is going home. It will hug with owners. They miss each other very much.
It would be more problematic, if there are any bitcoins there.
Bitcoin was released about a month ago (score 1 for a decentralized currency).
Perhaps interesting to note is that the price dropped from $150 to $79 right after these btc24 coins were released.
Opposite effect this time with the release of fiat? 
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Post 2333677 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Wallzilla is back? Oh my... it's raaaaalllly time
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Post 2348603 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Hello $120
15:04:27
120.00000 94.29430724
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Post 2349642 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I didn't sell...anything...
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Post 2349687 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Sold at 129.xx
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Post 2349820 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
As I said many times, breaking $125 is a clear trend reversal signal. Expect sub $100 coins very soon. If $80 is broken, expect testing again $50. If that support level is not broken, that's still a bullish sign considering that 1 BTC costed $14 in January this year.
IMO $50 is going to be the very post-bubble bottom, we won't going to go under that level. If we do, we will have a 2011-like scenario.
You just have to rub it in, don't you ?
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Post 2350582 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
BTC-E at $120, mtgox at $118. It's interesting how BTC-E now is higher than mtgox, it used to be like $10 lower
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Post 2350727 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I've been holding from $10 to $266, from $266 to $50, from $50 to $130. I'm not selling now
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Post 2350869 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I've been holding from $10 to $266, from $266 to $50, from $50 to $130. I'm not selling now
You could have doubled up on those coins several times already just by making a few well placed trades
I learned my lesson in the run-up to $32. I lost almost half. When it went back down towards $2 I was buying like crazy and increased my holdings by about 6 times. I decided to sit tight since then, which I have managed to do except for a few small trades, both which succeeded.
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Post 2352580 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Speaking of the devil: my XRPs' BTC value has appreciated more than 20% in last two days.
Don't shoot me...
EDIT: before you call me names, I hold both BTC and XRP. And I ain't selling any.
At 6000 XRP per BTC, that would make the Ripple market cap 16.66 million BTC or ~2 billion USD. Surely not a bubble.
Wait, what? 6000 XRP per BTC, and I got 20k for free, that means they're worth 3.3 BTC now or about 400 bucks? LOL... where's the best place to sell em?
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Post 2352752 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Hmm, I have to install the ripple client? I only find source code on their website...
I don't use bitstamp no, at least not yet
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Post 2352916 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Thanks, figured it out
I'm aiming for 3.4 BTC, we'll see how this goes...
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Post 2353119 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Thanks, figured it out
I'm aiming for 3.4 BTC, we'll see how this goes...
don't crash the market...
I'll try my best
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Post 2356890 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I interpret that as it's going to edge between 122-123 by the end of the day, with little resistance to a full rebound to 128-130 as cash starts flowing in towards the end of the week!
Those big sellers haven't bought back in yet. I wonder if they've not finished selling, and they're waiting for your prediction to come true before mega-dumping again, or that they have finished selling and they're anticipating some further downtrend before buying back in again. Or, they're really cashing out, and there are more like them to follow for similar reasons (fincen vs illegitimate business etc). Either way, I'd expect us to be testing 115 again within a week or two.
Expect a test of 100 rather.
This. The test of $115 will happen muuuuuuuch earlier than "within a week or two".
Fasten your seatbelts, gentlemen. The post-crash upwards trend was officially broken yesterday.
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Post 2357282 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I interpret that as it's going to edge between 122-123 by the end of the day, with little resistance to a full rebound to 128-130 as cash starts flowing in towards the end of the week!
Those big sellers haven't bought back in yet. I wonder if they've not finished selling, and they're waiting for your prediction to come true before mega-dumping again, or that they have finished selling and they're anticipating some further downtrend before buying back in again. Or, they're really cashing out, and there are more like them to follow for similar reasons (fincen vs illegitimate business etc). Either way, I'd expect us to be testing 115 again within a week or two.
This.
The test of $115 will happen muuuuuuuch earlier than "within a week or two".
Fasten your seatbelts, gentlemen. The post-crash upwards trend was officially broken yesterday.
I hope that's a coincidence that it just started dropping right after your post!
I have to say that just before posting
I sold 20% of my BTC holdings at $119ish. Not because I'm willing to "catch the bottom", I immediately ordered a fiat withdrawal for those funds, it's because I'm willing to invest in ASICs and I'm going to pay with fiat to get a little "buyer protection", and I'm pretty sure the price will go down during this week.
Edit: obviously it's a decision that I made this very morning, if I had decided to invest fiat in ASICs earlier I would have sold at $133ish last week, but that's life.
Nice, but if you believe what you're preaching, why not sell more?
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Post 2361949 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Looking at past action, you would always do well to hold (unless you can call those tops and bottoms like a pro - but do you want to get caught with your pants down considering what we are talking about with BTC?)
Interesting...
If really you want to be the
careful type, shouldn't you wait on the sideline with your fiat ready, as price has a tendency to fall faster than going up?
There's always the fear of a black swan event rocketing bitcoin into the sky. I don't know why, but I think many bulls have this fear including myself. I don't like to sit on the sidelines for too long, I can sit out a weekend but that's it really.
Imagine selling all your BTC and then seeing the price just leave you behind, forever...? having to buy in at a massive loss or just accept it's game over, buy that ferrari you never really needed and not look back? Bitcoin is so... revolutionary... it's like being back in the early 90s before the internet took of... like buying shares in google, apple or facebook before mainstream adoption... I can't stomach staying out of this, bitcoin is my wildest fantasy coming true... this is why I am the careful type and hold 100% BTC
It's better losing some fiat (temporary) than to end up with sellers remorse.
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Post 2362126 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I hope it was worth it selling into that wall at 115 yesterday. Enjoy your evening, bear cubs.
Oh SNAP.
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Post 2362886 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Imagine selling all your BTC and then seeing the price just leave you behind, forever...? having to buy in at a massive loss or just accept it's game over, buy that ferrari you never really needed and not look back? Bitcoin is so... revolutionary... it's like being back in the early 90s before the internet took of... like buying shares in google, apple or facebook before mainstream adoption... I can't stomach staying out of this, bitcoin is my wildest fantasy coming true... this is why I am the careful type and hold 100% BTC
It's better losing some fiat (temporary) than to end up with sellers remorse.
I was like that. All in. Then my wallet's worth suddenly became worth just about a few decades of fiat savings with my job.
Then April crash came. I couldn't sleep anymore. I was getting ill and turning into a zombie.
So I had to sell some coins. Take out what I put in - plus a proper premium for the hassle. Which I'm shopping for real estate with.
I know I miss on potential bigger gains. But if I'm unwell and die before becoming a big BTC millionaire all my waiting will just have been a sad mistake. My coins are not coming in the grave with me, for fuck's sake.
I still have a lot invested in crypto. But I can sleep at night. And I can laugh at price drops. And be here for the lulz, siding once with the bears and once with the bulls. Never invest what you can't afford to lose, so true and I had to learn the hard way.
I've been through a similar situation, in fact, I tried to capture that very feeling in this
song I wrote about the crash. I'm not going to lie, the price swings affected my life to the point of obsession, and still isn't completely healed, but it's only a phase, things tend to
get a little out of hand...but once it cools off, it's all good again
Same happened back in 2011, but now it's forgotten.
I've been able to sleep well at night, but I totally see where you are coming from, and why you made that decision.
Instead of selling I have distanced myself from my bitcoins, in the sense that, I don't watch the price and thinks like "oh, there goes one year worth of salary". Rather, I set a price target in mind, and tell myself we'll keep cool until then, and along the way, i'll just pretend I don't have those bitcoins. Then, like you, laugh and have fun regardless of where the price goes, or at least not take it all that serious. I may not have been entirely successful in distancing, but at least I have not lost sleep thus far.
My thought process is like this: There will likely be massive changes and rapid growth now that we're entering mass adoption phase, it will likely turn around in 3-5 years. What's 3-5 really? It's nothing. I'm young and can afford to take a huge risk. I don't think I'll ever see an opportunity so golden as this again in my life. If I just don't chicken out now, and keep holding, this will be my best shot ever at becoming wealthy enough to never have to worry about work again in the shortest possible time frame, or lose everything. Well you know what, being so lucky that I can take part in one of human history's greatest inventions, I'm not going to let this opportunity pass me by. Even if there will be nights without sleep, and weeks with poor work habits. I'm holding this motherfucker
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Post 2363085 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
rule #2 of investing: defend the assets you own!
What do you mean?
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Post 2368020 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
Technocash may be in trouble and scared after the LR case, they are known to serve payment processors such as solidtrust pay, which are heavily used for ponzi schemes and other illegal activities. "Profitable Sunrise" funds apparently went through their systems.
.... and now the price is falling...
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Post 2369217 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
^^ Nah. Just time to give up using .com domains. And buy namecoins maybe
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Post 2369695 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
When we see that banner on the mtgox domain , i'm sure the market cap will explode into a huge market CRAP.
FTFY.
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Post 2371070 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
When we see that banner on the mtgox domain , i'm sure the market cap will explode into a huge market CRAP.
FTFY.
IF this happens, there will be a market shock but
once there is an exchange that fully complies with regulations, it will have monopoly; much like MTGox does right now. Bitcoin isn't just MTGox, fully decentralised... remember?
You mean being "fully licensed" like eCardOne, who, by the way, got their domain seized today?
Mtgox should just order that new domain already, and relocate from japan to a less US friendly environment
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Post 2371245 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
And it's closure had nothing to do with affiliation to the notorious Liberty reserve and ability to withdraw funds from the same? All the same, these are centralised enterprises. Bitcoin is run from private computers, the people, all over the world.
Of course, but you can't ignore the effect exchanges currently have on bitcoin.
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Post 2371449 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
And it's closure had nothing to do with affiliation to the notorious Liberty reserve and ability to withdraw funds from the same? All the same, these are centralised enterprises. Bitcoin is run from private computers, the people, all over the world.
Of course, but you can't ignore the effect exchanges currently have on bitcoin.
Well, sure but this is mostly FUD saturated, nervous speculators which affect the price so much. I still have all my Bitcoins, a good 10% of my net-worth and not planning to sell them during these growing pains of the currency. This new attention is likely the apparent threat to the USD that cryptocurrency represents.
Once all the negative news tails off, I fully expect a breakout in price and volume transition to whichever exchanges or 'trading station's that are left. Seriously though,
if the US gov was going to shutdown MTGox, they would of done it already. Everyone just needs to chillout and enjoy the gravy train.
Why did they wait 2 years to shut down liberty reserve? It takes time to build a case.
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Post 2378603 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
Something is wrong with that chart. I have seen many log charts (for example the one at bitcoincharts.com) but they all look different.
The first thing that's wrong about that chart is that it's pulled out of the OP's ass. He was drawing a line based on "Mmmm, right about there".
ok then.
Plotted using sigmaplot.
regression analysis in genstat stats package (version 12) minus bubble data.
bitcoin price (logged) = -0.0635+0.0013791*time
predicted price= $24.24
when I first saw this, I sold everything. edit: all bitcoins
Nice, so you actually didn't pull your prediction out of your ass, but used (polynomial) regression on historical data (not sure if it's wise to exclude bubble data/outliers, though). I respect that.
But do you want to know what is the single biggest assumption
Dude, you either don't know the math behind what you do, or you're willfully obstinate to make a point: if you run a simple regression analysis like you did, you
de facto work from the assumption that there is one and only function underlying those data points. Otherwise, you "identified" jack shit.
I'm only showing that there's an extremely strong underlying trend outside of bubble data, which predicts a bitcoin price much lower than it is now. No need to get antsy
eh, sorry. my field (well, of sort) is foundations of mathematics, so I can get worked up over not knowing the (formal) premises of a method one uses.
anyway, I'm not even completely denying your point. I'm extremely cautious right now, and far from ruling out price will drop further. But I still consider it a distinct possibility that the fundamentals and public perception have changed enough for growth to continue from (roughly) where we are now. Time will tell.
ok truce. FYI, I'm a statistical modeller.
Biology? Bioinformatics?
Behavioural biologist, but don't judge me.
Why would I? I'm a mildly formal philosophy person, basically
EDIT: sorry for the off topic conversation. it's just that nothing happens right now.
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Post 2380617 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
so is it going up or down?!
sidewayz
Up, it's been undervalued for weeks now.
Bitcoin does whatever the fuck it wants.
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Post 2380779 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
so is it going up or down?!
sidewayz
Up, it's been undervalued for weeks now.
Bitcoin does whatever the fuck it wants.
TheKoziTwo, you are an artists: funny gifs, songs... Did I tell you I'm your fan?
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Post 2384461 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
But I still think Bitcoin is currently overvalued.
, outside speculation,
bitcoin is only supported by silkroad. Imagine speculators leaving, and silkroad shutting down.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
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Post 2384530 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
But I still think Bitcoin is currently overvalued.
, outside speculation,
bitcoin is only supported by silkroad. Imagine speculators leaving, and silkroad shutting down.
Is that a list of some obscure vendors who support them? Is any of them 10% as popular as silkroad?
Namecheap is an ICANN-accredited domain registrar and web hosting company, based in Los Angeles, California. They claim to have over 3 million domain names under management and more than 800000 customers.
Alexa rank: 1025
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Post 2384564 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
No idea, kinda looks like him though
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Post 2384870 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
That makes the .gif even more awesome
Is that a list of some obscure vendors who support them? Is any of them 10% as popular as silkroad?
Namecheap is an ICANN-accredited domain registrar and web hosting company, based in Los Angeles, California. They claim to have over 3 million domain names under management and more than 800000 customers.
Alexa rank: 1025
Just out of interest, you don't agree that silkroad is the major force that will prevent bitcoins from falling into single digits if something terrible happens like mtgox and major exchanges closing (or some other crisis, exact nature is not the point of this question)? Do you think this namecheap thing if 10% as significant?
Not really. I think we're past the silk road phase at this point, you're overestimating how much effect it has versus other bitcoin businesses. I've seen us going from back in 2011 when I was able to keep up with pretty much *every* news article and *every* new business launch, to now, where even if all I did 24 hours a day was trying to keep up I wouldn't be able to. These are different times.
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The only reason to go through hassle of getting bitcoin is using silkroad
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Post 2395651 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
why else would I buy something using bitcoin instead of dollars?
Why would
you do it? I really have no idea. You don't particularly strike me as the kind of guy who appreciates what bitcoin has to offer that the traditional finance system does not. Or maybe you're just confused and expect bitcoin to be another paypal right off the bat. But it doesn't work like that, this technology has to mature, become trusted, a store of value.
Bitcoin is a deflationary currency. I bought coins back in 2011 and 2012, those have now massively increased in value. I'm kind of a minimalist so I don't buy much, but if I wanted to, I could now go to bitcoinstore.com or whatever and have purchasing power many times what I put in. So the first question to ask yourself is maybe, could it be worth buying bitcoin, and save them for later. So instead of buying the exact number you need to purchase something today, buy 10 times more than you need, or 100 times. And keep the money there for the day you will actually need it.
I think that bitcoin needs to establish itself as a store of value, to really take full advantage of the payment features. If people don't trust it as a store of value, and have to "deposit" bitcoin everytime they want to buy something, that kind of makes it pointless. And for people who think of it like that, it won't work. You need to have more faith in bitcoin than to use it as a method of shuffling money through. It's not suppose to be an exchange.
Now second point is, those who earn their money in BTC. This is an fantastic opportunity for them to earn and spend their money, tax free. This is a huge deal. And it works in any business accepting bitcoin. It's a way to earn money in the black market and spend it in legitimate shops like bitcoinstore etc.
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Post 2395734 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
why else would I buy something using bitcoin instead of dollars?
Bitcoin is a deflationary currency. I bought coins back in 2011 and 2012, those have now massively increased in value. I'm kind of a minimalist so I don't buy much, but if I wanted to, I could now go to bitcoinstore.com or whatever and have purchasing power many times what I put in. So the first question to ask yourself is maybe, could it be worth buying bitcoin, and save them for later. So instead of buying the exact number you need to purchase something today, buy 10 times more than you need, or 100 times. And keep the money there for the day you will actually need it.
Yeah that's the point upon which we agree, it's a thing that could boom. Thing that I can sell 100 of in 10 years and get myself maybe a nice flat? I want to believe in that becuse, hell, who does not want to be rich
But otherwise its only
USE that does not involve unnecessary hassle is silkroad. For all other uses there are traditional methods.
Eventually it will become valuable and adopted enough to be stable. At that point it will be a flourishing economy. Just look at liberty reserve and similar payment systems. They are doing great, without people like you. But I think bitcoin can even work for people like you, eventually, but we are many years off.
edit: and if you are using SR, it already does work for you, even though it doesn't satisfy all your needs yet.
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Post 2395752 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
Wall gone, nom nom
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Post 2395792 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
Wall gone, nom nom
Eaten or pulled?
I saw at least 1894 BTC being bought in one go
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Post 2407363 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
If you want to make a river, pour water on the mountain top.
This is only one of many reasons I choose Ripple as a better world currency alternative. There are vastly more XRP's. So many in fact, it could be literally hundreds of year, if ever, that you would need to calculate beyond the 3rd decimal. It's nearly impossible to do this with Bitcoin because there are only 11 million of them and at most 21 million. And that doesn't account for how many have been or will be lost forever. I know what you'll say, "Bitcoin can be broken down to 8 decimal places." What the vast majority of people say is, "Who cares, what a pain in the arse to deal with .00239484 of something." And I agree.
Wow... just wow dude.... if that really is a problem why don't we just multiply all bitcoins in existence with 1000 ? Nobody loses and you get that vastly more bitcoins you're looking for
But in that case, mBTC and later uBTC or satoshi will basically do the same thing, in solving this "problem".
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Post 2407437 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
If you want to make a river, pour water on the mountain top.
This is only one of many reasons I choose Ripple as a better world currency alternative. There are vastly more XRP's. So many in fact, it could be literally hundreds of year, if ever, that you would need to calculate beyond the 3rd decimal. It's nearly impossible to do this with Bitcoin because there are only 11 million of them and at most 21 million. And that doesn't account for how many have been or will be lost forever. I know what you'll say, "Bitcoin can be broken down to 8 decimal places." What the vast majority of people say is, "Who cares, what a pain in the arse to deal with .00239484 of something." And I agree.
Wow... just wow dude.... if that really is a problem why don't we just multiply all bitcoins in existence with 1000 ? Nobody loses and you get that vastly more bitcoins you're looking for
But in that case, mBTC and later uBTC or satoshi will basically do the same thing, in solving this "problem".
No, you're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. And honestly, nobody cares. We didn't ask to have the wheel reinvented, we just said build a better wheel.
So moving the decimals a few zero's to the left is "building a better wheel"?
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Post 2423352 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Sold some at 98ish, sold some at the bottomish around $90 (as usual). IMO the case for the "correction" is officially debunked, we are officially in the bubble deflation process, thus I expect it to go lower. Testing $80, and if it falls, testing $50. I'll load the truck at that point.
I would love for it to be fast, as we could enter a mid term growth phase quicker, but I'm afraid it will be long process. I expect plenty of traps and mini sucker rallies, as usual during bubbles deflation.
Edit: it hurts to sell coins, those paper wallets really looked at me with sad eyes, but at the end of the day the purpose is for them to be replenished ASAP with more coins they holded now.
I'm now a lonely bear with only 20% of the BTC holdings I had a couple of weeks ago, at least I can comfort myself thinking that I'm still a supernode, of the lowest grade, but still a supernode at the end of the day
How does it feel?
What supernode types were there again?
0.0th class supernode = BTC1M
0.5th class supernode = BTC100,000
1.0st class supernode = BTC10,000
1.5th class supernode = BTC3,000
2.0nd class supernode = BTC1,000
2.5th class supernode = BTC300
3.0th class supernode = BTC100
$102!! And rising! You guys getting ready for the supernode lifestyle ?
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Post 2423406 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
300k here we come!
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Post 2423580 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
0.5k sell already dont know to dup other 4.5k instatly or in small packages.
well .. the price seems pretty good right now
Ok so im starting selling
Mr Jaroslaw, do you actually have 1M Bitcoins? Got a wallet or something where we can see this?
So far, all I see is a lot of FUD or otherwise painting the tape. :S
dont see the point or profit showing you this
Suit yourself, I just wondered how credible you were and now I know
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Post 2430683 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
why would i learn a backward language like that
because English is not a single language in the world. So shut up telling not native english speakers how they need to talk.
Men engelsk er det sprĺket som flest pĺ nettet kan, og bruker. Siden alle forstĺr engelsk er det bedre ĺ snakke det, enn russisk, eller hva det nĺ er som du snakker. Hvis du ikke liker ĺ snakke engelsk, sĺ er det egne sub-forum for andre sprĺk.
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Post 2430957 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
It is becoming unlikely that we'll see $300 this year.
TIME TO PANIC
$300 per
mBTC
If rpietila lost faith in his ultra bullish (verging on bull-shit) stance, it's as if pope said "ok, there is no god"
He has been in a mental institution, probably just got a reality check and have now readjusted the target. He is still bullish, and a super node, you, on the other hand, is neither, if I had to guess.
Suuuupppernode lifestyle here we come
and welcome back rpietila!
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Post 2431004 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
It is becoming unlikely that we'll see $300 this year.
TIME TO PANIC
$300 per
mBTC
If rpietila lost faith in his ultra bullish (verging on bull-shit) stance, it's as if pope said "ok, there is no god"
He has been in a mental institution, probably just got a reality check and have now readjusted the target. He is still bullish, and a super node, you, on the other hand, is neither, if I had to guess.
Suuuupppernode lifestyle here we come
and welcome back rpietila!
I'm bullish, I just believe that we will hit 30 before rebounding to new highs
What if you're wrong?
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Post 2431347 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
He has been in a mental institution, probably just got a reality check and have now readjusted the target. He is still bullish, and a super node, you, on the other hand, is neither, if I had to guess.
Suuuupppernode lifestyle here we come
and welcome back rpietila!
The said: "Mister Pietila, sir, don't you think $300 per m
BTC within a year is a bit much". So they settled on $200 per m
BTC after a few weeks and he could go home
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Post 2441304 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Price rising again with very low volume... painting the tape? Can we expect touching $110 today and $115 tomorrow?
Damn manipulators
Let the bubble deflate completely!
Anyway, i'm not buying it,
sitting 100% on fiat until we go under $80, then i will start purchasing little by little.
Oh man, you're going to be butthurt when it hits $120. On the other hand, I can see $120 then crash to $90 and below. If not, $180 in a month.
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Post 2442476 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Well, at least bitcoin was created for us who likes zero regulation.
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Post 2442551 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Well, at least bitcoin was created for us who likes zero regulation.
And ironically, if this continues, that's exactly what's going to kill it.
Yeah.... no.
The biggest threat to Bitcoin right now IS regulation.
+1 can't argue with that
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Post 2442613 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Well, at least bitcoin was created for us who likes zero regulation.
And ironically, if this continues, that's exactly what's going to kill it.
Yeah.... no.
The biggest threat to Bitcoin right now IS regulation.
+1 can't argue with that
Welcome!
I actually had you on ignore for quite a while, but put you off since you seemed to improve for a period. Guess I'll take this as a final push to put you back there, cheers.
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Post 2442645 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
Usual trolling apart, let's see if $110 stands another assault.
Come on guys, if it's broken on the upside, who is panic buying in here?
Not me, I'm already all in.
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Post 2442915 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
price is about to explode to 180, and you guys are wondering why someone would buy it up to 110.
too funny
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Post 2443209 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
price is about to explode to 180, and you guys are wondering why someone would buy it up to 110.
too funny
So sayeth the November bottom theorist.
that was b4 the worlds first bitcoin baby
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Post 2443328 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
The biggest threat to Bitcoin right now IS regulation.
+1 can't argue with that
I do.
The biggest threat to regulation is Bitcoin
I like the sound of that
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Post 2450290 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
$111 broken. Time to panic buy, for whoever is crazy enough to still hold fiat
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Post 2461733 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Seems like there has been a raid, and $7.5 million frozen from webmoney (or more precisely, their "guarantor" in Ukraine) today:
"The authorities have seized a large amount of computer equipment which was used for the system's operation. "Over 60 million Hryvnas ($7.5 million) held in the bank accounts of companies which were part of in the illegal system have been frozen," the ministry said."
http://rapsinews.com/news/20130613/267751619.htmlhttp://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/webmoney_funds_blocked_by_revenue_authorities_305119http://un.ua/eng/article/454477.htmlWonder if there will be any escalation here or if this is a minor issue?
Either way, all these asset seizures are nothing but bullish news for bitcoin.
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Post 2461959 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Bullish! yea another Direct funding source for bitcoin likely to be cut off.
No need to ban bitcoin,only bank wire remains. What happens if the banks decide Bitcoin is against AML laws and stops business with exchanges, we'l see how can price be sustained then.
Ultimately, we're going to be prepared to go this route anyways. I don't see how this anonymous taxhaven / money laundering paradise can continue to operate uninterrupted like it is today. We will need p2p exchanges to take over where there is no big, centralized point of failure. The end goal would be mass adoption to the scale where in and out exchange is no longer necessary because everyone accepts bitcoin. Anyhow, I think there will continue to be exchanges in obscure countries, for a long time to come.
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Post 2462053 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
But we all know how much was bitcoin when it was used only for illegal purposes and not for speculation like today. I would like to hear your opinion on what will happen with bitcoin if it will be illegal to run a bitcoin exchange? Of course TOR-based exchanges could appear, but big money would be gone.
First and foremost, a global ban is unlikely. The most likely scenario is that there would be countries where it would still be legal to run exchanges. And "big money" knows how "offshore banking" works - especially is this "big money" comes from dubious sources. I bet you know that there is a lot of "big money" (or better, HUGE money) in counterfeit pharmaceutical drugs, prostitution, illegal weapons traffic, drugs, etc.
Secondly, Dread Pirate Roberts (SR operator) is a visionary. But new generations of "criminals" will join the pack as soon as they understand BTC. If BTC is banned, they would be even more attracted by it. "Criminal activity" (or black market) is a 1,829
billion per year market. If only a small % of that economic activity goes to BTC the price will skyrocket, and as I said earlier: everything illegal comes with a premium.
Bitcoin has the potential to be HUGE regardless of the official position of Governements.
I always thought that bright future of Bitcoin that we look forward to is not being a currency used by criminal big money, and when somebody mentions big money they mean investors, not human trafficing and weapons.
But yeah, I'm fine with that as long as price goes up.
Of course bitcoin is the currency of criminals, that's why it was created in the first place, to have a safe haven for criminals. But you need to realize that being a criminal is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
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Post 2462095 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
lol imagine drug lords standing around waiting 40 minutes for 6 confirmations before finishing their exchanges.
I think services built on top of bitcoin will account for most purchases eventually. Those services will provide more anonymity and will be instant. I would imagine drug lords using these services as well, and use bitcoin for long term storage.
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Post 2462115 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Of course bitcoin is the currency of criminals, that's why it was created in the first place, to have a safe haven for criminals. But you need to realize that being a criminal is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
Now that's something! It's a good thing for the criminal as long as they are not caught, and a bad thing to their victims.
You seem to live under the illusion that every crime has a victim, that is utterly false. In fact, most crimes are completely victimless.
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Post 2462180 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Of course bitcoin is the currency of criminals, that's why it was created in the first place, to have a safe haven for criminals. But you need to realize that being a criminal is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
Now that's something! It's a good thing for the criminal as long as they are not caught, and a bad thing to their victims.
You seem to live under the illusion that every crime has a victim, that is utterly false. In fact, most crimes are completely victimless.
Victimless crimes is logical contradiction. What they call victimless crimes aren't crimes. (blasphemy, prostitution etc.)
Victimless crimes are still crimes. If you break the law, you are a criminal.
Of course bitcoin is the currency of criminals, that's why it was created in the first place, to have a safe haven for criminals. But you need to realize that being a criminal is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
Now that's something! It's a good thing for the criminal as long as they are not caught, and a bad thing to their victims.
You seem to live under the illusion that every crime has a victim, that is utterly false. In fact, most crimes are completely victimless.
Following your line of thought by saying that "being criminal is a good thing" you live under the illusion that every crime is victimless.
That's a weird conclusion. Most crimes are victimless, some are not. But since the majority of criminal actions are victimless, I believe it's fair to say it's a good thing that bitcoin is used by criminals.
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Post 2462280 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Of course bitcoin is the currency of criminals, that's why it was created in the first place, to have a safe haven for criminals. But you need to realize that being a criminal is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
Now that's something! It's a good thing for the criminal as long as they are not caught, and a bad thing to their victims.
You seem to live under the illusion that every crime has a victim, that is utterly false. In fact, most crimes are completely victimless.
Victimless crimes is logical contradiction. What they call victimless crimes aren't crimes. (blasphemy, prostitution etc.)
Victimless crimes are still crimes. If you break the law, you are a criminal.
I disagree. Morally, one shouldn't be bound to follow laws that are unjust. Just don't get caught/prosecuted.
You don't disagree, I don't believe in any moral need to follow laws that are unjust either. But if the statist are going to name you a criminal for doing what's right, then be proud to be a criminal.
It's just as weird as your conclusion that I seem to live under some kind of illusion
If you believe most criminals have done something morally unjustifiable, you're either morally corrupt or live under the illusion that those crimes have victims, even though they do not.
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Post 2462323 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
You don't disagree, I don't believe in any moral need to follow laws that are unjust either. But if the statist are going to name you a criminal for doing what's right, then be proud to be a criminal.
No, I do disagree
They aren't crimes. Some ignorant people (governments mainly) may label them as crimes, but this doesn't make it so.
See that's the thing, it all boils down to definition, but we don't have any power over those. So instead of trying to explain to people that their definition is void, it's better to take on their defintion, their label, and embrace it fully. Yes, I'm a criminal. Yes, I'm a pedophile. Yes, I'm a terrorist. Yes, I launder money. So what? This spurs a much more interesting conversation, than trying to explain what is criminal behaviour and what is not.
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Post 2462334 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that
Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall...
You are wrong. I never dealt on SR, ever.
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Post 2462345 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
And once again I disagree
Why?
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Post 2462364 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that
Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall...
You are wrong. I never dealt on SR, ever.
Don't take it so seriously, I was just poring oil on the fire
That being said, I don't have any moral issues with SR and may very well start dealing there one day. Just don't know what to deal.
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Post 2462447 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
And once again I disagree
Why?
You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense.
It makes it very difficult to communicate with someone if their definitions differentiates from the majority. It doesn't have to do with surrendering anything.
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Post 2462538 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
And once again I disagree
Why?
You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense.
It makes it very difficult to communicate with someone if their definitions differentiates from the majority. It doesn't have to do with surrendering anything.
I cannot and will not accept a definition that's internally inconsistent. Even if all others in the world do accept it. You're right this may impede communication.
I don't know you're political believes. But capitalism is an example of a word, that now, by the majority means a "government regulated marked / corporatism" and not a free market. Because of this, I do not use the word "capitalism " anymore, instead I use voluntaryism, anarcho-capitalism etc. Even "laissez-faire" has been somewhat diluted lately to define a regulated market. In your opinion I would be better off sticking with "capitalism" even though majority will misinterpret it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree
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Post 2462544 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m
BTC already?
Almost - anyhow, I'm just trolling. You guys know i'm a long term perma-bull
Is there anyone who is not?
Those who held 100% fiat and waited for the price to drop to $2 one more time, back in 2011. Ooops
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Post 2462611 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
BTW: How can laissez-faire ("let it be", "let it go") be diluted? These are two very common french words and merely translating them leads to the correct definition: no government involvement in the market! No exceptions.
It's weird, I had a discussion recently where I used that word, and the other party assumed I was talking about a "less" regulated market, but still regulated. It's kind of like the diluted version of capitalism is starting to spread. I still use laissez-faire though, and like you, point it out if people got it wrong.
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Post 2467487 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Is it just me or this canyon has gotten a tad steeper if compared to few days ago?
Is that a serious question? Is it just me or is it June 13th while few days ago the day could be expressed with a single digit? Fuck, I'm so observative.
Observe this.
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Post 2467549 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
new ask wall 500BTC @ 108.49
time to panic sell?
Did you give up your $180 prediction
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Post 2467624 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
new ask wall 500BTC @ 108.49
time to panic sell?
Did you give up your $180 prediction
no, I still believe!
do you?
i think most of the resistance will be here at 108ish, once everyone has sold, we can take off, so please bears, sell now
I think 12 days is too soon, but I'm still all in. How can I NOT believe now that we just had the worlds first bitcoin baby
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Post 2467816 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
in 12 days i will be the one loling.
this
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Post 2468006 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
new ask wall 500BTC @ 108.49
time to panic sell?
Did you give up your $180 prediction
no, I still believe!
do you?
i think most of the resistance will be here at 108ish, once everyone has sold, we can take off, so please bears, sell now
I think 12 days is too soon, but
I'm still all in. How can I NOT believe now that we just had the worlds first bitcoin baby
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Post 2468353 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
3000 coint till 100.
Nothing to fear.
Less than 3k now... *gulp*
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Post 2472464 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Those who are intermediaries in the transfer of virtual currencies from one person to another person, or to another location, are money transmitters that must register with FinCEN as MSBs, unless an exception applies.
Pretty depressing really.
Liberty Reserve operated as an online money transmitter deliberately designed to avoid regulatory scrutiny and tailored its services to illicit actors looking to launder their ill gotten gains.
According to the allegations contained in a related criminal action brought by the U.S. Department of Justice, those illicit actors included criminal organizations engaged in credit card fraud, identity theft, investment fraud, computer hacking, narcotics trafficking, and most relevant for today’s purposes, child pornography.
The action taken by FinCEN was designed to protect the financial system from the risk posed by Liberty Reserve an online, virtual currency, money transfer system that was conceived and operated specifically to allow and encourage illicit use because of the anonymity it offers.
They could replace "Liberty Reserve" with "Bitcoin" and it would still be just as accurate, more so actually.
I recently heard a banker say that there is a reason that financial institutions have to obtain licenses. It is a great bestowal of trust that enables banks to be part of the U.S. financial system, to be part of the global financial system.
Yeah... "A great bestowal of trust". It has nothing to do with preventing competition. no no.
The saddest thing about this entire document is that they never mentioned that foreign companies / individuals are exempt as long as they do not deal with US.
Guess nobody is really exempt from the almighty world police of
USSA.
I would like to close with a challenge to our great innovators: extend your focus to devising creative solutions for preventing the abuse of virtual currencies by criminals, such as those who would exploit children
The "think of the children" card, honestly, it's getting kind of old.
We all stand to benefit from such innovation, and the related transparency and integrity to our financial system
Oh, the sweet sweet irony.
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Post 2473183 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Those who are intermediaries in the transfer of virtual currencies from one person to another person, or to another location, are money transmitters that must register with FinCEN as MSBs, unless an exception applies.
Pretty depressing really.
Liberty Reserve operated as an online money transmitter deliberately designed to avoid regulatory scrutiny and tailored its services to illicit actors looking to launder their ill gotten gains.
According to the allegations contained in a related criminal action brought by the U.S. Department of Justice, those illicit actors included criminal organizations engaged in credit card fraud, identity theft, investment fraud, computer hacking, narcotics trafficking, and most relevant for today’s purposes, child pornography.
The action taken by FinCEN was designed to protect the financial system from the risk posed by Liberty Reserve an online, virtual currency, money transfer system that was conceived and operated specifically to allow and encourage illicit use because of the anonymity it offers.
They could replace "Liberty Reserve" with "Bitcoin" and it would still be just as accurate, more so actually.
I recently heard a banker say that there is a reason that financial institutions have to obtain licenses. It is a great bestowal of trust that enables banks to be part of the U.S. financial system, to be part of the global financial system.
Yeah... "A great bestowal of trust". It has nothing to do with preventing competition. no no.
The saddest thing about this entire document is that they never mentioned that foreign companies / individuals are exempt as long as they do not deal with US.
Guess nobody is really exempt from the almighty world police of
USSA.
I would like to close with a challenge to our great innovators: extend your focus to devising creative solutions for preventing the abuse of virtual currencies by criminals, such as those who would exploit children
The "think of the children" card, honestly, it's getting kind of old.
We all stand to benefit from such innovation, and the related transparency and integrity to our financial system
Oh, the sweet sweet irony.
Come on, it's not that bad - they seem to be quite positive about the potential for Bitcoin, but just require US exchangers to be registered and regulated.
They specificaly mention they are not out to get Bitcoin, and the quote you took out of context was used in her speech to specifically point out the differences between Bitcoin and LR. So to say "you could substitute LR for Bitcoin in that sentence" is woefully disengenuous.
It is apparent that Gox is making a best effort to comply with the regulations, and it looks like that has been heard loud and clear by FinCEN.
As for the children angle -- well this is a meeting specifically about that, what do you expect?
It must suck to be around you, since it seems you are wilfully pessimistic about everything.
It's very naive of you to believe these guys have good intentions. They are saying whatever sounds good publicly, but if they had good intentions, liberty reserve wouldn't be closed. It provided a very valuable service that no banks could compete with. Bitcoin, is liberty reserve on steroids. The unstoppable version of liberty reserve. Of course they're not in favor of that.
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Post 2473763 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
don't you mean
go, Go, GO?
I mean crash to the floor so greedy me can buy cheaply and assume that bubble is over.
Where's your bids? How much are you going to buy? I assume you are all fiat now?
All fiat, I have them proportionally spread out in 30-60 area.
seems like a fair price to me. That's more than 30% up on January's price which is pretty good.
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Post 2476702 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
time to catch the " last chance to sell above 100 " cheap coins.
First your 180$ trolling now this, are you getting away with it only because you have 10x more posts than Jaroslaw?
What if he's not trolling and you will have to panic buy at $180? Maybe that's what worries you the most
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Post 2477449 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
A lot of support here, 32k won't even drop us below $90, while a ridiculous ~9k is enough to bring us back to $110. Rally time?
edit: in fact, 32k in the other direction will bring us to $125. Wow
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Post 2477912 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
i bought again
Again I'll ask:
Are you all in yet?
I think the more interesting question is, are you all out?
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Post 2478046 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
i bought again
Again I'll ask:
Are you all in yet?
I think the more interesting question is, are you all out?
Sure I am.
I even short when I can. Yesterday made me a nice profit.
As Proudhon would say, 2011 profoundly changed me.
Damn. I can't even sell 5% of my stash without trippin.
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Post 2478055 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
i'm all out ladies..
Don't forget to pay capital gains on those fiats before buying back in.
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Post 2478072 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Oh wait, no... I think I have some Bitbills laying around.
I just don't want to destroy them to get the private keys.
How do you deal with capital gains? Ignore it?
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Post 2478184 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
How do you deal with capital gains? Ignore it?
I would have some... but I lost most of my private keys in an unfortunate boat accident.
Wow that blows... Sorry to hear that man
Also, not everyone lives in the US.
Some have special retirement accounts protected from taxation.
Other can deduce borrowed money when it's paid back.
I might have earn them with my business which accept Bitcoin and paid income tax then.
Really, taxation is a complicated game.
And as usual, those with the less money are those who will pay more.
I'm not living in the US either, but about 97% of my BTC value is pure profit. If I sold out now I would have to pay ~30% in capital gains. That would require one hell of a trade to just break even (ok, maybe no biggie if I had balls like you). I could technically ignore reporting it, it's kind of a gray area, but I donno, the tax man would probably eat me alive if I did that.
Oh well, guess I'm stuck holding, for the longest time.
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Post 2478208 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
This is a funny thing... capital gain tax on a number (private key).
I wonder when they will tax the alphabet.
Screw it, they can tax my brainwallet when they pry it from my cold dead neurons.
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Post 2478279 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
How do you deal with capital gains? Ignore it?
I would have some... but I lost most of my private keys in an unfortunate boat accident.
Wow that blows... Sorry to hear that man
Also, not everyone lives in the US.
Some have special retirement accounts protected from taxation.
Other can deduce borrowed money when it's paid back.
I might have earn them with my business which accept Bitcoin and paid income tax then.
Really, taxation is a complicated game.
And as usual, those with the less money are those who will pay more.
I'm not living in the US either, but about 97% of my BTC value is pure profit. If I sold out now I would have to pay ~30% in capital gains. That would require one hell of a trade to just break even (ok, maybe no biggie if I had balls like you). I could technically ignore reporting it, it's kind of a gray area, but I donno, the tax man would probably eat me alive if I did that.
Oh well, guess I'm stuck holding, for the longest time.
If you are planning to transfer "for good" significant funds to your personal account to realize fiat denominated profit, it's always better to declare it and pay for it. Not because of some sort of perverted morality, just because you will avoid potential problems in the future.
As Frozenlock said, as usual those with less money are those who pay more. Everything depends on how big are the gains you want to "cash out". If those gains are big enough, you can easily build a structure that will make you save a lot of money. But if they are not, you end up paying more. You "cannot afford" to save on taxes
I'm just talking about selling and leaving fiat on mtgox. Technically you then have converted to money and will have to cashout ~30% of it from mtgox to pay taxes. Then, you'll have to try to make those 30% back by trading. That means it's sort of silly to sell unless you're up for one hell of a trade, or unless you sell no more than the amount you originally put in (which is what I've done so far, in those few trades i've done).
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Post 2478370 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
I'm happy to see that even with all the "bearish" talk, most of you still have your BTCs.
This means we can go much, much lower. 
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Post 2478683 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
How do you deal with capital gains? Ignore it?
I would have some... but I lost most of my private keys in an unfortunate boat accident.
Wow that blows... Sorry to hear that man
I think you missed the implied "wink wink"
EDIT: Also, he was illustrating the point of how easy it is to LEGALLY avoid taxes, provided you have lots of money. The more money you have, the easier it is to take advantage of legal structures specifically put in place to help rich folks avoid taxes. So that they can then donate to the political campaigns of those who put the legal structures in place.
Everything is going according to plan. Hmm, I see. But in that case, it doesn't really illustrate the point, because one doesn't have to pay capital gains on unrealized gains. It's when you convert to fiat that the capital gains will have to be paid. So if you claim to have lost your coins in a boating accident, one day you may want to convert them to fiat, and then you'll have some trouble explaining how you gained those coins. Maybe you cheated on income taxes? I can't see how that would be an advantage.
The thing is, since these exchanges operate within legal boundaries and the owners are known and probably documented by law enforcement agencies, we are somewhat safeguarded if our fiat were be stolen or abused by the owners of the exchange. There are systems in place in the real world which would combat criminal endeavours to steal our fiat. Bitcoin has none of those. It might all turn to shit tomorrow, that's the harsh truth of it all, and you wouldn't be able to do a damn thing to prevent it. Your coins might even get stolen from the exchange, and you wouldn't be able to do squat. You might be a "bitcoin believer", but i prefer to be realistic about this whole thing, and i think that's the smart thing to do as well instead of putting blind faith into all of this.
Most likely situation, if this were to happen: DOJ swoops in, seizes/restrains bank accounts, presses civil case to recover assets... then after several years, account holders get paid pennies on the dollar out of a remission fund. If you feel safe with fiat on the exchanges, don't. (Same goes for BTC, obviously)
This.
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Post 2478793 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
I'm thinking greed will help Bitcoin.
LOL, how can we live in such a fucked up world?
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Post 2478924 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
How do you deal with capital gains? Ignore it?
I would have some... but I lost most of my private keys in an unfortunate boat accident.
Wow that blows... Sorry to hear that man
I think you missed the implied "wink wink"
EDIT: Also, he was illustrating the point of how easy it is to LEGALLY avoid taxes, provided you have lots of money. The more money you have, the easier it is to take advantage of legal structures specifically put in place to help rich folks avoid taxes. So that they can then donate to the political campaigns of those who put the legal structures in place.
Hmm, I see. But in that case, it doesn't really illustrate the point, because one doesn't have to pay capital gains on unrealized gains. It's when you convert to fiat that the capital gains will have to be paid. So if you claim to have lost your coins in a boating accident, one day you may want to convert them to fiat, and then you'll have some trouble explaining how you gained those coins. Maybe you cheated on income taxes? I can't see how that would be an advantage.
Sure, that bit was referring to the remainder of his post, where he did illustrate several ways rich folk can legally avoid taxes - methods generally unavailable to lower-income brackets. I may have been a bit hasty in my quote-pruning.
As for the boating accident - cashing out through an exchange (and your bank reporting the >$10,000 deposit to your bank account to the IRS per regulation) isn't the only way to cash out.
Yah, but cashing out is another discussion. I'm really only talking about trading. Quite impractical to do big scale "day trading" through OTC.
There is no doubt rich people are able to get around taxes easier though.
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Post 2482052 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
Bids are piling up.... could it be all bears have sold and placed their bid now.... ready for rally time?
[source]
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Post 2490455 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
The true bear indicator is rpietila selling off some bitcoins.
I'd believe its to pay off the private mental institution holding him
Come on, that and the supernode meeting and those hilarious stories are all part of his trolling right?
One can never be entirely sure, but I don't think so
I do believe he has money and a lot of coins but the rest has to be a troll! He's creating a character.
It's too ridiculous and insane to be true.
Sauna's, 1000's of coins in open wallets that get stolen, mental institutions....haha no way.
He never said that, he said "potentially lost". He only confirmed 1 BTC as lost.
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Post 2491403 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Talking about mental institutions, I got a movie recommendation:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/
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Post 2491674 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Perhaps rpietila doesn't have a mental illness, but is master at real life trolling.
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Post 2492938 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They invent. They imagine. They heal. They explore. They create. They inspire. They push the human race forward.
Maybe they have to be crazy.
How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art? Or sit in silence and hear a song that’s never been written? Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?
While some see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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Post 2492978 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Not my quote, but I love it
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Post 2501090 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
buy now or panic buy at 111, 180 in 10
business days
I see what you did there.
Hahahaha
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Post 2509335 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
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Post 2511413 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
406.9632 sold, wall not moving.
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Post 2511467 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Sold a little into the wall, he he, looks like we're gonna profit from that.
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Post 2511487 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
At least the wall was real. That's kind of bullish
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Post 2511837 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Bounce is almost over and i'm ready to buy in at a profit. Good times.
You don't profit until you sell, son.
True bitcoiners doesn't consider fiat profit, only increase in amount of BTC
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Post 2511942 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Fiat is a guilty pleasure that you will all inevitably indulge. Don't lie about what you're really after.
True bitcoiners will hold until they can purchase what they need directly with bitcoin
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Post 2512177 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Jaroslaw has no bitcoins, or 0.1 at most maybe. He's just an immature kid trying to act like a memorable troll but failing miserably. The best troll on these boards is Rpietila by far, nobody comes even close.
I think the rally + the wall buy is legit. There was a wedge, and we broke upwards. I bought 2/3 in, at a loss.
We will now form a handle to the cup tomorrow in 106ish, and then continue up.
Why am I the best troll, even now under medication
?? Proudhon has disappeared, and most the cadre has changed.
Enough said
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Post 2513687 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Well, sold some at $108.5 and bought back in. Only made 1 BTC, but hey, they say it will be worth $300k one day this year, perhaps it wasn't so bad after all. Now I just need to repeat this 99 more times and I'll have earned myself a supernode worth of coins.
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Post 2522967 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Nope, I paid a vocalist to sing it.
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Post 2523388 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Nope, I paid a vocalist to sing it.
did you pay her in BTC?
I hope he didn't. The microphone sucked or the vocalist does
Nope, and let's just say it wasn't very costly, but better than me trying to sing it lol
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Post 2525809 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
The bids are getting bumped by bots bidding .01 higher in an effort to entice other buyers to get frustrated and buy at a higher price. Watch the order book for a bit, you'll see the same bots breaking down transactions into tiny amounts (faster to execute and easier to disguise), but they are effectively buying 1 and selling 1.1; just gaming the bid/ask ratio and making those pretty bars turn from red to green by floating the bid. Buyers look at the chart and think "oooo! look at that big volume, it's green!" Sorry, but that's just high-frequency gaming at it's best. The real winners are the market makers who are earning pennies and nickels on the spread, the real losers are those buying above $100.
This has TRAP written all over it.
So you think.
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Post 2526137 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
What? the moon affects the price?? What am I missing?
Apparently, full moon does.
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Post 2535133 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
Who's the guy on the left?
Mt. Gox chief marketing officer Gonzague Gay-Bouchery
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Post 2540392 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
How the fuk would gox become insolvent... They're sitting on a goldmine of trading fees alone. You guys really need to stop thinking the worst possible scenarios, I personally think Gox isn't as bad as you guys make it seem. Yes, they have problems, but that's to be expected of an online exchange operating in a novelty area like bitcoin...
GOX is doomed. The sob stories are going to be classic, as millions evaporate to fund the retirement of Gox executives.
I wouldn't go that far but they certainly have lost a lot of customers and they were partly responsible for the big correction a few months ago.
You reap what you sow, so I think Gox will just lose market share. That is needed.
They have done a lot for BTC, being a leader is very difficult. At least they have been great with security.
It will be nice when the exchanges are more evenly distributed, % wise.
Didn't they lose everyone's password hashes recently? My friend had everything stolen.
If your "friend" did not use 2 step authentication he deserved it.
He did not deserve it. We all make mistakes.
I only found out about the password hashes from a post on here.
All gox had to do was send out and email informing customers what had happened and to advise them to change their password.
I'm not just gox bashing for the hell of it, they are not that bad, but this could have been avoided.
All your friend had to do was read his e-mail I guess. They sent multiple e-mails regarding this...
"Dear Mt.Gox user,
Our database has been compromised, including your email. We are working on a
quick resolution and to begin with, your password has been disabled as a
security measure (and you will need to reset it to login again on Mt.Gox).
If you were using the same password on Mt.Gox and other places (email, etc),
you should change this password as soon as possible.
For more details, please see this:
https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20208066-huge-bitcoin-sell-off-due-to-a-compromised-account-rollbackThe informations there will be updated as our investigation progresses.
Please accept our apologies for the troubles caused, and be certain we will do
everything we can to keep the funds entrusted with us as secure as possible.
The leaked data includes the following:
- Account number
- Account login
- Email address
- Encrypted password
While the password is encrypted, it is possible to bruteforce most passwords
with time, and it is likely bad people are working on this right now.
Any unauthorized access done to any account you own (email, mtgox, etc) should
be reported to the appropriate authorities in your country.
Thanks,
The Mt.Gox team"
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Post 2541378 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
How the fuk would gox become insolvent... They're sitting on a goldmine of trading fees alone. You guys really need to stop thinking the worst possible scenarios, I personally think Gox isn't as bad as you guys make it seem. Yes, they have problems, but that's to be expected of an online exchange operating in a novelty area like bitcoin...
GOX is doomed. The sob stories are going to be classic, as millions evaporate to fund the retirement of Gox executives.
I wouldn't go that far but they certainly have lost a lot of customers and they were partly responsible for the big correction a few months ago.
You reap what you sow, so I think Gox will just lose market share. That is needed.
They have done a lot for BTC, being a leader is very difficult. At least they have been great with security.
It will be nice when the exchanges are more evenly distributed, % wise.
Didn't they lose everyone's password hashes recently? My friend had everything stolen.
If your "friend" did not use 2 step authentication he deserved it.
He did not deserve it. We all make mistakes.
I only found out about the password hashes from a post on here.
All gox had to do was send out and email informing customers what had happened and to advise them to change their password.
I'm not just gox bashing for the hell of it, they are not that bad, but this could have been avoided.
All your friend had to do was read his e-mail I guess. They sent multiple e-mails regarding this...
"Dear Mt.Gox user,
Our database has been compromised, including your email. We are working on a
quick resolution and to begin with, your password has been disabled as a
security measure (and you will need to reset it to login again on Mt.Gox).
If you were using the same password on Mt.Gox and other places (email, etc),
you should change this password as soon as possible.
For more details, please see this:
https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20208066-huge-bitcoin-sell-off-due-to-a-compromised-account-rollbackThe informations there will be updated as our investigation progresses.
Please accept our apologies for the troubles caused, and be certain we will do
everything we can to keep the funds entrusted with us as secure as possible.
The leaked data includes the following:
- Account number
- Account login
- Email address
- Encrypted password
While the password is encrypted, it is possible to bruteforce most passwords
with time, and it is likely bad people are working on this right now.
Any unauthorized access done to any account you own (email, mtgox, etc) should
be reported to the appropriate authorities in your country.
Thanks,
The Mt.Gox team"
i did not get that mail.. when was this?
Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:48 PM
then a follow up received at:
Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 AM
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Post 2558689 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
Fun to lick all these state asses (except of Matonis) and as a payback receive a pile of shitload on your face...
+1
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Post 2561893 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
@MickeyT2008 : Thanks
Now we just need another "situation" to inspire a new song
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Post 2567678 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
Stop quoting him
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Post 2576966 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
Epic indeed... the ending is simply priceless
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Post 2584234 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
Oh, just thought of something else.
Regarding my statement above, I would need to file that form...unless
Unless I export the bitcoins (value of $5K) to a wallet after purchasing. Then price doubles to $10K. But, the bitcoins are in my wallet, no longer in the account. So the account value never exceeded $10K. The value of my wallet did though!
Don't report it man... just don't....
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Post 2599675 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
Let's just have $50 already so frozenblock can stop cheering everytime we go down.
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Post 2599762 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
You told us $180 coins today.
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Post 2611746 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
This is a good news for those interested in the bright future for bitcoin. But it's bad news for those interested in drug-dealing and mioney-laundering with btc. Don't you think at first these people will cash out?
They will just use btc-e or some other unregulated exchange.
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Post 2612359 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place.... The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol
I thought the whole idea of Libertarianism was less taxation (and hence government). Aren't they the opposite of socialists, closer idealogically to Republicans than Democrats in the American political scale?
Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.
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Post 2628454 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3quv8AjmAI I have placed my bid at $88, but not feeling too confident right now.
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Post 2630553 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
800 BTC left and we'll break 16 months of higher lows. I'll admit it; I have removed my $88 bid.
*gulp*
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Post 2631326 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
Nice, it seems the trollbox folks have figured out how to join bitcointalk.
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Post 2635621 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
This will make it possible for investors who don't dare to (or can't) hold BTC or deal with "shady exchanges" to purchase and invest in bitcoin the most legitime way. If I understand this right, the winklevoss twins are essentially selling their bitcoins to an audience which normally wouldn't buy bitcoin. So all those coins sold to this group, means there are now less coins on the market. As new shares are issued and the winklevoss sells out, they will accumelate new USD which they can use to purchase back their original holdings and additional bitcoins.
It looks like a very bullish sign to me. The biggest concern is that it would probably take months or years to be approved by the regulators (if ever).
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Post 2635952 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
This will make it possible for investors who don't dare to (or can't) hold BTC or deal with "shady exchanges" to purchase and invest in bitcoin the most legitime way. If I understand this right, the winklevoss twins are essentially selling their bitcoins to an audience which normally wouldn't buy bitcoin. So all those coins sold to this group, means there are now less coins on the market. As new shares are issued and the winklevoss sells out, they will accumelate new USD which they can use to purchase back their original holdings and additional bitcoins.
It looks like a very bullish sign to me. The biggest concern is that it would probably take months or years to be approved by the regulators (if ever).
BTC doesn't need more speculators. Speculators dump coins in panic the moment the market looks bad. We need a fucking proper bitcoin economy that isn't based off the sale of drugs.
You're wrong. Speculators serves a very important function in the economy. They sell when something is overpriced and buy when undervalued, the more speculators the more stability. As more speculators are entering the game, their profit margins will decrease and we'll see increased stability.
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Post 2637104 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
Am I the only one who thinks it's way too early for an ETF?
Regulators might need enough time to approve it for it to not be "too early" anymore once that actually happens
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Post 2648631 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
Is it fair to say we're now in the "fear" phase?
Goat, looks like you won't need to purchase that lamborghini after all
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Post 2649495 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
WTF guys, I leave my computer for a few hours and you crash the price!
I've waited for days for this!!!
(To witness the bulls suicide)
Don't worry, I posted this pic with a snarky comment to help rub it in while you were gone
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Post 2649553 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
I sold ~5% at $98 and I'm not buying yet.
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Post 2662456 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
Frozenlock/Blitz/Rampion right now (seen from ShroomsKits perspective) :
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Post 2662502 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
I've placed my bid at $56. Too soon?
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Post 2662647 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
I've placed my bid at $56. Too soon?
Don't think its soon, I placed around that, just to play the bounce. But I'm very doubtful its going to be the bottom. Probably we will bounce a few times from the 50s, and despair and capitulation will take more time to come. We went from $105ish to $66 very very quickly. I guess there will be a "wait and see" period sooner or later.
I'm thinking along those lines as well, I'm unsure how high the bounce will be though. I think I may aim for about 70-80 range.
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Post 2663833 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Bought at 65.5 sold at 69.99.. Suckers are making this easy..
wished i had guts to expose more of my dear fiat.
those "suckers" are the ones with guts. You can't win every round, but hey- like you said, you don't have the guts to expose your fiat, thus you also can't really ever 'win'. :-)
Following a rally is easier than taking the knife..And i consider my net profit of $1500 to be a win, you don't win until you sell
See that's the thing. $1500 isn't profit. BTC is profit. Any fool can make $ in this market, but to increase your share of the limited supply of bitcoin is what will really matter in the end.
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Post 2664041 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Bought at 65.5 sold at 69.99.. Suckers are making this easy..
wished i had guts to expose more of my dear fiat.
those "suckers" are the ones with guts. You can't win every round, but hey- like you said, you don't have the guts to expose your fiat, thus you also can't really ever 'win'. :-)
Following a rally is easier than taking the knife..And i consider my net profit of $1500 to be a win, you don't win until you sell
See that's the thing. $1500 isn't profit. BTC is profit. Any fool can make $ in this market, but to increase your share of the limited supply of bitcoin is what will really matter in the end.
More Fiat with cheaper Coins, more Win. The bear trend warrants me to have more fiat than coins
Fiat entering bitcoin economy is more limited than supply of coins currently, hence the decline.
Being stubborn can hurt in this game..
I want to hear about the BTC profits you make, fiat is only a temporary means to acquire more of the true asset. If you end up left behind in the coming rallies your fiat profit will leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
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Post 2664062 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Just curious: why don't folk reveal the position of their bids in advance, if this thread has no impact on the price?
Certain people here are claiming that nothing being said in a silly speculation forum is affecting the price, on the other hand the same people can say things like "if you had listened to us and sold you would have been much better off now".
Of course what is being said in here matters, not much maybe, but there are people affected by what's being said here, even the troll box can influence people in their buying / selling.
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Post 2664169 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
I love the smell of freshly minted Bitcoins hitting MtGox in order to crush the delusions and denials of the bulls.
The Great Dollar Extraction.
Don't forget to pay capital gains on your fiat profit. By the sound of it (assuming you sold $100+) that's going to be quite a dollar extraction from your wallet to the state.
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Post 2664283 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
I love the smell of freshly minted Bitcoins hitting MtGox in order to crush the delusions and denials of the bulls.
The Great Dollar Extraction.
Don't forget to pay capital gains on your fiat profit. By the sound of it (assuming you sold $100+) that's going to be quite a dollar extraction from your wallet to the state.
Worrying about taxes on your profits – first world problems.
So you're living in a third world country? Or are you happy to pay ~30% of your profit, effectively erasing all otherwise would-be profits made from a price decrease in the range of $100 to ~$77?
Bought at 65.5 sold at 69.99.. Suckers are making this easy..
wished i had guts to expose more of my dear fiat.
those "suckers" are the ones with guts. You can't win every round, but hey- like you said, you don't have the guts to expose your fiat, thus you also can't really ever 'win'. :-)
Following a rally is easier than taking the knife..And i consider my net profit of $1500 to be a win, you don't win until you sell
See that's the thing. $1500 isn't profit. BTC is profit. Any fool can make $ in this market, but to increase your share of the limited supply of bitcoin is what will really matter in the end.
More Fiat with cheaper Coins, more Win. The bear trend warrants me to have more fiat than coins
Fiat entering bitcoin economy is more limited than supply of coins currently, hence the decline.
Being stubborn can hurt in this game..
I want to hear about the BTC profits you make, fiat is only a temporary means to acquire more of the true asset. If you end up left behind in the coming rallies your fiat profit will leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
Clearly our ideology differs, you think in terms of coins but worry about the underlying dollar value of that asset, else you wouldn't be here!
I'm managing risk, and protecting my Fiat against a declining asset.
When there is a sustainable rally, il gladly hop in even if i missed the 1st class seat.
I don't "worry" a whole lot about the underlying value, I'm holding roughly 95% in bitcoin and 5% in fiat and I sleep like a baby, and the only reason I hold any fiat at all is to buy back cheaper and increase the amount of bitcoins I own. It's all about BTC profits for me, in fact I don't mind the price going down at all, if it goes down far enough I will simply buy more, like I did in the previous bubble down to $2, I approximately quadrupled my position back then by buying in single and lower double digits. I would love to do that again.
Ideally I will never have to realize any fiat profit and be able to purchase everything I need with bitcoin.
Bought at 65.5 sold at 69.99.. Suckers are making this easy..
wished i had guts to expose more of my dear fiat.
those "suckers" are the ones with guts. You can't win every round, but hey- like you said, you don't have the guts to expose your fiat, thus you also can't really ever 'win'. :-)
Following a rally is easier than taking the knife..And i consider my net profit of $1500 to be a win, you don't win until you sell
See that's the thing. $1500 isn't profit. BTC is profit. Any fool can make $ in this market, but to increase your share of the limited supply of bitcoin is what will really matter in the end.
I'm sorry but this is extremely short-sighted and worthy of someone with 0 trading knowledge.
We're talking profit here. Even for long bulls,
more USD means more BTC. It's as simple as that. Whether you like it or not, he now has 1500 USD worth of extra BTC.
Being a long bull DOES NOT mean you have take every loss that BTC goes through. There will ALWAYS be times when having more USD is the better way to have more BTC.
Well there you go, it really is that simple, more BTC is what it's all about, just like I said. USD is a means to an end.
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Post 2664313 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Seems some are still quite confident
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aaaannnd it's gone
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Post 2665289 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
new prediction:
180$ in 12-20 business days
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Post 2667152 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Are you happy to pay ~30% of your profit, effectively erasing all otherwise would-be profits made from a price decrease in the range of $100 to ~$77?
Capital gain taxes are horrible, and I'm sorry for anyone being extorted that way. That being said, avoiding taxes can be a very bad investment advisor. One can easily lose a lot more in an investment than in taxes. This is again proven with bitcoin since the bubble popped. Anyone that locked in profits between $250 and $130 is ahead over holding, even after paying 30% taxes on the gains. Don't let the government interfere with your common sense to sell high and buy low. Easier said then done, I admit.
Still, the price has to fall considerable just to break even, 30% is a lot, and then you have to hand over your money to the state, which in itself leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't want to pay taxes so I'm trying to avoid that situation. Everytime someone pays capital gains tax that means less money in the BTC economy and more money to be used on regulation of bitcoin, it's bad for everyone.
I don't "worry" a whole lot about the underlying value, I'm holding roughly 95% in bitcoin and 5% in fiat and I sleep like a baby, and the only reason I hold any fiat at all is to buy back cheaper and increase the amount of bitcoins I own.
How can you buy considerably more btc when you only have 5% cash and 95% in btc?
This can only mean your capital is very small compared to your income. A situation I assume you want to change however going all in, even at a bottom, is very poor risk management, so chances are low that you will hold on to any capital you succeed in building up, as all-in strategies lead to ruin, sooner or later.
I understand that if your capital is low compared to your income, and your income is secure, that you are able to handle the risk to invest all your capital in bitcoin. However, if successful a switch of strategy is crucial in my opinion. Considering you have bought lots of coins during the depression of 2011, you have already 50 folded your invested capital around the recent top, but still you have not switched to an even somewhat more balanced strategy. This does not look healthy to me. I could be wrong, I'm judging based on very little information I have from your situation.
I can buy considerably more if the price drops enough, if it doesn't no, then I won't be able to increase my posision a lot, but the bitcoins I gain could still be considered a lot of money once the price goes up again, which I'm confident it will at some point. Also I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that my income is high compared to my capital, it's more like the opposite.
Well there you go, it really is that simple, more BTC is what it's all about, just like I said. USD is a means to an end.
I strongly disagree. In investment it's not about how many bitcoins, gold ounces, real estate, or stocks that you are able to accumulate. It's about how much value/purchasing power you are able to build up.
You are thinking like a gold bug, or real estate bug, or stock bug. Sooner or later a decades long bear market arrives and they lose most of their purchasing power. At least they can say that it will go up again sometime in the future (though since it can take decades they might not be there anymore to experience it). With bitcoin nothing of the kind! Hard to imagine now but bad news can come in strides and a combination of development disagreements, outlawing by some major government and competition can seal the faith of bitcoin. So being a bitcoin bug is even more irrational as you cannot say with any historical certainty that if will come back sooner or later.
I'm sorry for being so confrontational but honestly I'm stunned to see this typical bitcoin bull talk still expressed today after the market proved you so wrong. Either I am missing something here or you are.
I believe in bitcoin, I believe the price will raise considerably the next 5 years. For me the only rational thing is to hold as many BTC as I can. I've been through bubbles before and it didn't make me sell out at the bottom, just like i didn't sell out on the top. There are two reasons why:
1. I'm a long term investor, I don't mind holding for years. I don't trade much, most traders lose in the long run.
2. I don't want to sell more than the maximum I can before being eligible for capital gains, something I refuse to pay.
What's stupid about buying bitcoin with the intention of holding for 5-10 years? The market hasn't proved me wrong at all, it's just as expected. Up and down up and down, you're clearing missing something here, you think like a trader, not investor.
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Post 2667160 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
What i dont understand is the people that are holding ,say 10k B that thay are not cashing out now ?
Even if thay think that we will stay at this price.
Becuse if thay dump 10k now the price will fall realy hard and only profit would thay make.
And if you have over 10k you are probebly a person that are not stupid, i think its just crazy that we dont se a faster and bigger drop . And becuse of that we maby wont hit as hard that we think ,but i will hold
My cash steady for som time now .
Because if you hold 10k BTC and sell, you have to pay 3000 BTC in capital gains to the state (assuming you bought cheap). The price would have to drop a lot for you to even break even. Plus, some people are able to look more than a few weeks/months into the future and willing to hold for years.
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Post 2667273 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
Yeah true, but the 5% I do trade with is still a decent chunk of money and justifies hanging out in the speculation lounge. Also I like the chit-chatterish atmosphere here, the lulz, and the occasional big walls to watch for, even when not trading
Perhaps he got confused when I said I'm holding 95% in BTC, it's not because I believe the price will go up short term, as I said it's more to it than that.
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Post 2701713 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
I can't believe I didn't take the opportunity to buy back in at $68.
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Post 2702044 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):
100% in fiat or did you buy back yet?
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Post 2710756 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.10h):
This is
definitely going to 100... not sure would it hold but it might, whales need to make us bullish again before dumping
- Blitz
Only one can be right, now is the time to place your bets.
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Post 2710792 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.10h):
LOL, cold feets already?
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Post 2822165 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.12h):
A few quotes from Blitz made in july
Goodbye, triple digits. See you 2015.
After this week, I'm not sure we will see triple digits in 2013 again.
This has never been a billion dollar market to begin with. Triple digit, billion, those are things of a faint past.
No more triple digits for 2013.
Noone buys the triple digit lie anymore.
Looks like MtGox is beginning to shake off its denial and join the ranks of the 80s. This is only the beginning.
What if the buyer is an established casino firm that wanted to get into the Bitcoin game? If that's the case, then they would've been accumulating beforehand and have been responsible for some of the buying pressure. This would now be gone, along with 350k coins released on the market.
I smell blood.
Keep tryin' buddy, even a broken clock is right twice a day
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Post 2979238 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
I remember reading this thread periodically and seeing people predicting a fall to $30
So now I must say, what makes you assholes so sure of yourselves all the time?
Why so much anger ?
Perhaps he actually listened to these people and sold it all at $65?
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Post 3019258 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
I sold my BTC, nice profit. All USD right now.
4 days later:Lift-off commencing!
This is obviously completely artificial.
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Post 3026416 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
If you mean that I'm waiting for sub 60s since 2 months ago, you are mistaken.
I sold at 120 after buying at 110, and shall buy again at the bottom of this upcoming drop,
because I believe that price will rebound enough to make a profit.
As for sub 60s, it's too early to predict that as capitulation price.
If Gox $ withdrawals return to normal (maybe, maybe not, I don't know), then a bottom at about 60 is possible.
Can you please tell us your next move so we can learn from you. Thanks.
There's a few other guys who have been remarkably silent recently
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Post 3026522 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
A few quotes from Blitz made in july
Goodbye, triple digits. See you 2015.
After this week, I'm not sure we will see triple digits in 2013 again.
This has never been a billion dollar market to begin with. Triple digit, billion, those are things of a faint past.
No more triple digits for 2013.
Noone buys the triple digit lie anymore.
Looks like MtGox is beginning to shake off its denial and join the ranks of the 80s. This is only the beginning.
What if the buyer is an established casino firm that wanted to get into the Bitcoin game? If that's the case, then they would've been accumulating beforehand and have been responsible for some of the buying pressure. This would now be gone, along with 350k coins released on the market.
I smell blood.
Not to be an ass, but these quotes are still pretty funny.
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Post 3232036 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Further shame on you MtGox.
The choice is simple. Either mtgox does this, or they can expect a "dotcom style" type of raid with extermination of their entire business, possible extradition to the US on very serious charges, terror/cp shaming in media etc. Technically, they still risk this, but at least they play it safer than those who don't (e.g liberty reserve).
Is it right? No. Want to blame someone? Blame the US. Or better yet: blame the pathetic countries who surrender all their rights to satisfy US.
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Post 3232102 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
It's not speculation which the liberty reserve case clearly shows. If you don't verify customers using "imaginary internet money" you are a target of the US. The reason is that users could be from the US using a VPN etc to access your service, if you don't verify customers you have no way of ensuring that. So you MUST, with no exception, verify all customers. All business must do this, and those who don't will risk ending up like liberty reserve.
edit: and if you don't deny all US customers you will also have to become licensed in the US. If you are fully licensed in the US (is mtgox?) you may be able to skip the legitimation requirement in a few cases, but I'm not sure about that.
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Post 3232155 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
It's not speculation which the liberty reserve case clearly shows. If you don't verify customers using "imaginary internet money" you are a target of the US. The reason is that users could be from the US using a VPN etc to access your service, if you don't verify customers you have no way of ensuring that. So you MUST, with no exception, verify all customers. All business must do this, and those who don't will risk ending up like liberty reserve.
liberty reserve was handling real life money
BTC is imaginary internet money
From what i heard the US was only interested in tracking USD going in and out of exchanges not BTC
Actually no. From my understanding, LRUSD was an "imaginary internet currency" and not backed by actual USD. Yes, exchangers would trade it for USD, but there was no actual reserve guarantee. That is what makes this case so interesting. Liberty Reserve was basically a centralized version of bitcoin.
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Post 3232178 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
So people are still not able to withdraw from mtgox or is just it takes too long time to withdraw from them? Which one is it?
International wire is delayed by months. SEPA transfers less than certain amounts occurs within a few weeks usually.
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Post 3232219 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
So people are still not able to withdraw from mtgox or is just it takes too long time to withdraw from them? Which one is it?
now you need to be registered to withdraw BTC.
( there appears to be no official word about this )
Is there proof of this, or is this just rumour mill nonesense, FUD?
If you login with Tor, VPN etc you have always been required to verify your account, even for BTC withdraws. This is nothing new. If, however, you are required to verify your account when you only used your own IP, then this is new, but not surprising.
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Post 3232405 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
You people had more than enough time to leave Gox. Just admit that you are gambling on a positive resolve of the situation.
Actually, those leaving money in mtgox are not just gambling, they are part of the solution. If a bank run is prevented and trading continues mtgox will keep making profit and can eventually become solvent again (assuming they are currently fractional reserve) even if they are never paid their debt (millions of dollars: frozen, coinbase..).
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Post 3235412 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Wow! It seems the foundation's meeting with three-letter-agencies guys wasn't fruitless. Another meeting or two and KYC&AML will be integrated into the bitcoin protocol.
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Post 3243425 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Anyone who sells a single Bitcoin right now is a complete moron. There is a truly limited supply which doesn't exist anywhere else in the investment world. When the institutional investors get their hands on them, (which they have been unable to do until today) they won't be selling them back to you or putting them on these amateur exchanges. They could easily buy every Bitcoin on all of the exchanges in a couple of days. When the price goes to $1000, it could happen overnight and your tiny $200 ask price will be eaten on the way up. You haven't seen a real whale yet.
Actually, there has been an alternative for a while, namely the
Malta-based hedge fund "Exante" (having 80 000 BTC in their storage at the time of the article). However, it is limited to non-us countries. Now that the gates are also open for US, it's a big step for bitcoin.
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Post 3243542 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Actually, there has been an alternative for a while, namely the
Malta-based hedge fund "Exante" (having 80 000 BTC in their storage at the time of the article).
Current assets under management in the Bitcoin Fund are $3.2 million (80,000 BTC) and there is no performance-based fee. However, the fund charges an annual management fee o.5% of Net Share Value payable monthly in order to provide the sophisticated security and wallet management that one would expect with such large amounts at stake.
Hurry till no performance fee is charged
Not sure what you're trying to say.
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Post 3250029 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
$500 in 6 months easy...
Bit of an understatement don't you think?
We went from about $30 to $266 extremely fast and that was when
nobody knew about bitcoin.
This time we are starting at $140 and the whole world is watching...
*Plus China gets to play this time around.
looking at this difficulty curve but I'm not going to make that call on the record
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Post 3285635 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Silk Road admin arrested and servers seized:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306331.0If true, this could have some impact on price.
I just sold a bunch of coins.
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Post 3285673 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Interesting quote:
Now, my goals have shifted. I want to use economic theory as a means to abolish the use of coercion and agression amongst mankind. Just as slavery has been abolished most everywhere, I believe violence, coercion and all forms of force by one person over another can come to an end. The most widespread and systemic use of force is amongst institutions and governments, so this is my current point of effort. The best way to change a government is to change the minds of the governed, however. To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force. Looks like this may very well be the guy.
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Post 3285797 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
The problem with running a black market is that anything you write will be analyzed. Any specific writing pattern you have could be matched. Say you often spell a word wrong or use a specific phrase. Those will be searched and if they find a match on the clearnet you can easily be identified. Now there is no secret that hidden services on Tor are not anonymous
[source], but he could still have been anonymous if he paid for the server anonymously etc. It will be interested to see if any information on how he got caught will come out.
It's a sad day for bitcoin. He is unfortunate to be a US citizen. He may never be released from prison after this.
And what will happen to all the bitcoins hold by people on silk road?
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Post 3286872 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
I sold most of the coins I had on mtgox at $138, but still hold the vast majority of my coins, since they are in offline wallets and I can't sell them. Big question now is where to place the buy order...
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Post 3312758 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
curious, did anyone here buy at under $1?
was looking at historic prices, it looks like you could have become a millionaire with an investment of $100 at one stage.
so annoying that I didn't even hear about bitcoin until the start of the year since I've been into computers for more than 30 years and often read slashdot etc.
I bought bitcoins at $0.49... but only about 40 dollar worth... the price doubled shortly after so I didn't dare to invest very much then thinking it would fall back down..... regret... so much regret
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Post 3316284 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
I AM A RAGING BULL!
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Post 3322141 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
Btw, how's that cloud computing thing working out so far?
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Post 3322572 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
anyone else notice 56k bitcoin come off the buy orders? yet the price stays the same? i usually check the sums from 70+ yesterday it was 143,000 today its 87,000. where were these orders at?
these btc are bought and going to be sold
volume is around 6k.... thats still 50k removed from buys. yet the price trickles up? maybe nobody notices or cares
Bids are slowly climbing...
[source]
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Post 3348371 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
It's meaningless anyway
Did you buy back in after selling all or still believe in crash?
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Post 3350960 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
FTC is 10cents and the tx fee really is 0
FTC is a bargain
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190!!!
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Post 3374455 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
i have to admit i'm buying FTC REALLY slowly cuz ya bitcoin is crazy bullish, is it going to 1000
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Post 3375592 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
The report itself says:
"The sharp deterioration of the public finances in many countries has revived interest in a "capital levy"— a one-off tax on private wealth—as an exceptional measure to restore debt sustainability. The appeal is that such a tax, if it is implemented before avoidance is possible and there is a belief that it will never be repeated, does not distort behavior (and may be seen by some as fair). … The conditions for success are strong, but also need to be weighed against the risks of the alternatives, which include repudiating public debt or inflating it away. … The tax rates needed to bring down public debt to precrisis levels, moreover, are sizable: reducing debt ratios to end-2007 levels would require (for a sample of 15 euro area countries) a tax rate of about 10 percent on households with positive net wealth. (page 49)"
It's really quite astonishing how openly cynical they dare to appear. Sounds like a bunch of evil thugs masterminding a plan on how to best steal the most amount of money from people with the least amount of resistance. And that is exactly what's going on. When people wake up to this massive theft happening we're going to see manic capital flight into bitcoin. As terrible as this is for the people being victims it's also extremely bullish for bitcoin. Can't do much than secretly cheer this craze on. The more they steal the more attractive the ultimate tax haven of digital currencies will become.
Where does this chart come from ?
http://www.blockchained.com
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Post 3385284 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
We're above 200!!!
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Post 3387216 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
I just hate this rise. Sold too many coins
No trust anymore that it will go down again to $100. Maybe $130-$150 at best.
We are close to touching the old time high again. This is not 2011.
I'm eating my cake and it tastes like chit.
Sorry to hear that.
I'm kind of nervous myself. I'm holding, all of it, waiting for the last moment to sell. I'd love to say "it looks like it's about to turn around", but in reality, I don't see any signs for that (likely to happen eventually) correction yet. Neither on stamp nor on gox. So, I'm holding.
Thanks so much Oda.
Yeah, I switched strategy to not sell anymore as it goes up. I felt it in my gut already when price moved back up from $65 to $100, as I was selling the buying was strong. I figured we just might have seen the low already and from here it's up but I didn't listen to my gut and continued to sell up to $130.
As I said many times: buy and hold has historically been a winning strategy with BTC. Daytrading BTC is a huge risk, and IMO it should be done ONLY after an obvious bubble pop that leads to a bear market, as we had from mid April to July/August.
In my book this is a very bad time to daytrade, is time to hold like a motherfucker, as I've been saying since the beginning of July. You made fun of me because of a trolly post I wrote at the beginning of April in which I suggested to a guy to hold to his BTC if he invested what he could afford to lose and didn't want to miss the opportunity of his life. I again stand correct on that post. I don't believe in risk management with BTC, I think the bigger risk is to lose a once in a lifetime opportunity to be really "all set", and the potential with BTC is so high that you don't need to invest a significant % of your wealth, by investing what you can comfortably afford to lose your life can change for real, very soon.
We are all still early adopters, even the guy buying today for the first time, but the window is starting to close, slowly. When it closes for good, it would be sudden. We are approaching ATH, and we all know what happens when we break ATH, right? Huge media exposure and back to bubble mode, and this time $1,000 will be broken in less time you need to blink your eye. What if a BTC ETF is approved by the SEC? You can image.
Sure, secure your profits. I guess that everybody who has been into Bitcoin at least for 1 year has recouped their investment and secured profits at some point. That's the sensible thing to do. But don't fuck up by daytrading when the bear market is over, now it's time to ride the choo choo train. Yeah, crashes will follow parabolic rallies, but will you be able to time that? Be careful, in this game the one with more BTC in his wallet is the one winning.
This + choo choo!
+1
and also:
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Bitstamp: 206
Mtgox: 205.49
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Post 3405506 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
I really wish people would stop worrying so easily (and stop expecting price won't jump around). Learn to shrug off volatility, because it is NOT going to be a smooth ride as we go to $10,000 or $100,000. You'll get shaken off unless you're made of steel.
It was obvious we had to take a breather. Double-exponential growth never lasts. Exponential can, but not double-exponential. Hanging around the $200 mark for a week is required in order to get back onto the exponential trendline, which we got ahead of. We of course won't sit exactly at $200 but will bounce around a bit. It's just killing time until the rise continues.
Lost a lot of money by holding, but this crash feels great. Now I won't need to be so scared as we push through the ATH. Let's consolidate around $200 for a while. I'm feeling really bullish.
Yeah,
don't worry
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Post 3405874 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
I really wish people would stop worrying so easily (and stop expecting price won't jump around). Learn to shrug off volatility, because it is NOT going to be a smooth ride as we go to $10,000 or $100,000. You'll get shaken off unless you're made of steel.
It was obvious we had to take a breather. Double-exponential growth never lasts. Exponential can, but not double-exponential. Hanging around the $200 mark for a week is required in order to get back onto the exponential trendline, which we got ahead of. We of course won't sit exactly at $200 but will bounce around a bit. It's just killing time until the rise continues.
Lost a lot of money by holding, but this crash feels great. Now I won't need to be so scared as we push through the ATH. Let's consolidate around $200 for a while. I'm feeling really bullish.
Yeah,
don't worryY U no make new videos since April?
The vids was a spur-of-the-moment and not really plans of anything ongoing. Felt inspired to capture the moment, kinda just joke around and have some fun...Everything was kind of surreal back then wasn't it
May do some vids again later, but it's quite hard to think of anything good, guess I'm waiting for the right moment.
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Post 3410809 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Am I the only one screaming in agony over this?
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Post 3410829 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Am I the only one screaming in agony over this?
It's quite ironic, don't you think?
What's ironic?
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Post 3410902 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
That the US government is one of the largest holders of Bitcoin.
This is the best news ever. They already been on the moon, so they will help us on the way up.
Or they will sell the bitcoins and essentially remove $28.5 million from the bitcoin population and insert into the US government. The only way this could be a good thing is if they destroy all the coins, not gonna happen.
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Post 3411172 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
So the FBI's ETF is bigger than twins. Do they need to file the papers too?
pussy pirate
Either that or he was sloppy, which given what I've read so far, would not surprise me. Oh well, welcome to Bitcoin penury Mr. Ulbricht.
Bitcoin penuary and jailed for the unforeseeable future. Ahh... the best of two worlds.
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Post 3411184 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
I'm really disappointed that he made it so easy for them to steal his wealth.
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Post 3420577 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Can someone post that picture of Morpheus saying something like "when it's time to sell our bitcoins...we won't have to"?
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Post 3438297 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Where are all the 'chumps' who buy at the ATH+ going to come from ?
People like you who
sold everything at $120 and below finally realizing that you're about to be left behind?
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Post 3479392 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
did anyone notice? We're above the all time high marked cap now!
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Post 3479490 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Nice, some support
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Post 3479564 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
I hate my life, I hate Bistamp, I hate Slovenians. I am waiting my transfer since Wednesday.
Already loose 10% because of those fucking Slovenian holidays.
At least you get to be an early adopter, most people won't get this golden opportunity we have, to buy in lower triple digits
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Post 3479699 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Everyone keep dreaming of $10,000, $100,000 or $300,000 per coin. I'll be prepared for $10-30.
The only way I see $30 happening is if FBI dumps 144000 coins all at once in the same exchange. Not gonna happen.
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Post 3487956 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
up uP UP and to the moon ahhh what a wonderful day
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Post 3489872 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
250 wall gone
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Post 3492667 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
so what can stop it from reaching ATH now? we had the expected dump and it recovered already.
Nothing, now it's just a waiting game.
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Post 3500166 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
( Disclaimer: Only invest what you can afford to lose ( or hide from the wife ) ).
Only invest in USD what you can afford to lose
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Post 3500237 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Why do we suddenly have these huge walls? We haven't had walls like this in aaaaages.
Looks like somebody really wants to get out, putting up walls of 1k around 260. Some of the walls got eaten... maybe it's the 10k guy... the downward pressure should stop once they run out of coins.
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Post 3500294 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
But who into his right mind whould place a sell order right that just after we hit the ATH killing all the moment euphoria?
Perhaps he
really wanted his own private island?
USD: 2,500,000
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/dhoores-island
USD: 2,500,000
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/v-anabra#
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Post 3500674 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Very respectable indeed, i want one too
Hold your coins bro, soon you'll have enough dough
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Post 3500705 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
If anything, now is a golden opportunity for anyone having funds stuck on gox to switch for bitstamp
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Post 3502093 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Come on now... almost there... let's start eating
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Post 3503922 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
This is really bullish considering they have been only active for a few weeks.
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Post 3504043 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
Plenty of space for adoption, South America, India and the Arab world. I don't know why India isn't registering already - that's a bit odd, given that they are competing so directly with China over space exploration. But it's the Arab world that intrigues me. Bitcoin is halal (permissible) within their culture - not based on usury or interest taking, and they do have an awful lot of money.
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?376630-Bitcoin-Fiat-and-IslamGo Stamp!
You have arab sheiks so filthy rich they're
throwing out 2 million dollars for lulz, just wait until they start putting play money into bitcoin.
And india, how many people live there? 1.2 billion? It's like china rally all over again!
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Post 3504563 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
I do wonder, if it is a bad sign that someone parts from such an amount of BTC?
What if it's Mt Gox's BTC?
just going to say this...
maybe gox is trying to get enough fiat to send people.
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Post 3504765 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
I'm happy to see so many small purchases chomping up the wall. Just went all in with the remaining fiat I had on gox, might as well switch it over to another exchange.
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Post 3504804 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):
I'm happy to see so many small purchases chomping up the wall. Just went all in with the remaining fiat I had on gox, might as well switch it over to another exchange.
And you're getting your funds out exactly how?
I'll just sell the coins on another exchange. Same amount of fiat (or maybe slightly more) just another exchange where I can actually cash out within a reasonable time.
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Post 3504852 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
choo choo
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Post 3510681 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
Somebody is trolling...
[16:37:47] <chaang-noi> is it true mt gox ran out of both fiat and btc?
[16:38:01] <+SarahCoinBit> mtgox646: We are not having any type of funding issue. The coins are there in limbo
[16:38:20] <+SarahCoinBit> chaang-noi: We have not ran out of anything, nor is this a cold storage issue
Mark and Gox has a special place in my heart.
Reporting me to the police for being a "terrorist" is something I will never forget.
Why did they do that? what happened?
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Post 3512197 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
anyone have roller coaster memes that are appropriate
Preferably with some bears riding around
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Post 3514764 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
5:56 pm Nov 7, 2013 | REGULATORY
Judge Orders CoinLab to Pay Up…in Bitcoin
A well-known bitcoin company has been ordered by a judge to produce and deliver the virtual currency to a New York investment firm that accused it of reneging on their contractual agreement.
Judge Robert W. Sweet of U.S. district court for the southern district of New York barred CoinLab Inc. from delivering the virtual currency to any other parties before it meets its obligation to Bitvestment LLC.
The dispute underscores the frenzy surrounding bitcoin, a virtual currency that isn’t backed by a central bank. It is produced electronically using computers, and enthusiasts trade it on exchanges and privately. Some merchants are now accepting bitcoin as a method of payment.
Bitvestment sued CoinLab last week for breach of contract, contending that the Bainbridge, Wash.-based company isn’t living up to its obligation to provide 8,000 bitcoin under an August arrangement between the two firms.
One bitcoin was worth $295 Thursday afternoon on the volatile Tokyo-based Mt. Gox exchange on Thursday, giving the disputed 8,000 bitcoin a value of $2.36 million.
The process of generating bicoin is known in the industry as “mining.”
CoinLab Chief Executive Peter Vessenes has said that the lawsuit was a contributing factor in last week’s bankruptcy filing of CoinLab’s mining unit, which is called Alydian Inc.
Mr. Vessenes is also chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation, a nonprofit trade group that promotes the virtual currency.
Mr. Vessenes noted in an email on Thursday that CoinLab itself has no mining operations, but “of course we will comply (with the judge’s order) as well as we’re able.” It isn’t clear if Alydian is still generating bitcoin while it is under bankruptcy protection.
He also said that CoinLab was pleased that the judge denied other requests from BitVestment, such as seeking certain financial data from officers of CoinLab and Alydian.
“We continue to treat this as a simple contract dispute case, and feel confident on the merits of the case,” Mr. Vessenes said.
Bryan Reyhani, a lawyer representing Bitvestment in the case, declined to comment on the judge’s ruling.
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/11/07/judge-orders-coinlab-to-pay-up-in-bitcoin/Thoughts?
Good, the quicker we get rid off this vessens asshole the better.
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Post 3520410 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
♫♪
I don't care, I love it. I don't care.♫♪
We're going to become rich guys!!!
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Post 3520697 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
Hi guys. I've been trying to avoid the spec forum, but I decided to break down and jump back in to say "hi". I'm pretty optimistic about bitcoin, but this move is surprising.
We missed you
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Post 3520713 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
"I made better investment than bitcoin" - Said no one, EVER.
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Post 3521175 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
Just curious Blitz, since you said there would be no more triple digits in 2013. Did you follow your own advice?
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Post 3523205 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
Jesus, I'm still listening to this song.
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Post 3525073 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
How many people plan on buying more Bitcoin with fresh money next week when the banks open again assuming the price stays above $300 ?
I have a feeeling that this is a time when how much you make all depends on how greedy you are.
The most greedy won't necessarily be the ones who end up with the most.
How well has your strategy of 100% fiat, 0% btc worked out so far?
I have not bought bitcoin since low double digits (with exception of a few trades), but there are plenty of new people discovering bitcoin, such as CHINA, big investors through second market etc. It's new blood driving prices up.
All this time I have held on to my bitcoins.
You were
100% out at $120 and presumably had to buy back in later. Now you have been out again since about $200 and will not buy again until the price crashes below that. How is this strategy working for you? Not to gloat over your losses, but you may have forgotten that bitcoin isn't just another stock, but a disruptive technology that will change the world forever.
I'm not necessarily saying buy back now and hold forever, but if you keep up this bearish attitude you may be up for a rude awakening. The crash you're looking for may very well never come, and once again you'll have to buy in with massive losses.
Perhaps it is you that the greed has gotten the best of, double digits is a closed chapter imo.
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Post 3526874 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
When you have sold all your coins and are ready for a free fall:
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Post 3526945 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
This is insane... I'll have to start selling a few in the 400 range.
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Post 3527598 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):
fuck sleep, gonna dawn in a hour anyway. time for a coffee!
Now you know my week...
+1
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Post 3535247 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Bitcoinity right now:
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Post 3535511 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.
I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain
The price has been above $300 for only 3 days, ever. The last three days and you consider it a bargain.
LOL, WTF
Is that you rpietila ?
If we crash all the way down to our previous ath of 266 I'll still consider anything under 300 a bargain. I said post april crash that anything under 200 was a bargain. But you're the expert. Lap it it.
Shall we have a bet? gox to go below 300 tomorrow? I don't think it will
I'll 1-up this. If a single Bitcoin trade on gox even touches its previous all time high $266, any time this entire week, I'll double your bet.
Appreciate it but I doubt the chattering classes will actually put their money where their mouth is
Well samson did put the money where his mouth is at least. He sold everything at $120, then regretted and bought back at a loss somewhere towards 200, then he sold it all again around $200. Now he is all in fiat and not buying back before it crashes below that.
Personally I'd say below $200 is pretty long shot at this point, but this is bitcoin, anything could happen.
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Post 3535617 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.
I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain
The price has been above $300 for only 3 days, ever. The last three days and you consider it a bargain.
LOL, WTF
Is that you rpietila ?
If we crash all the way down to our previous ath of 266 I'll still consider anything under 300 a bargain. I said post april crash that anything under 200 was a bargain. But you're the expert. Lap it it.
Shall we have a bet? gox to go below 300 tomorrow? I don't think it will
I'll 1-up this. If a single Bitcoin trade on gox even touches its previous all time high $266, any time this entire week, I'll double your bet.
Appreciate it but I doubt the chattering classes will actually put their money where their mouth is
Well samson did put the money where his mouth is at least. He sold everything at $120, then regretted and bought back at a loss somewhere towards 200, then he sold it all again around $200. Now he is all in fiat and not buying back before it crashes below that.
Personally I'd say below $200 is pretty long shot at this point, but this is bitcoin, anything could happen.
lol what kind of dumb trader is this?
LOL sucker
That's pure speculation - nobody knows what prices I bought back in at and when I sold, how many times I repeated it and how much profit I made on my trades apart from me.
Also Nemesis - I remember your antics in the past as you posted them in this forum.
From what I remember Nemesis was bragging about buying his own walls last time around and calling everyone a sucker for beliving the volume as real. I suspect there's a lot of this going on as it's relatively cheap to take out a 1000+ BTC wall which you own - just the fees.
Are you pumping and dumping again right now ?
Well I can only base it on what you have written here obviously, but unless you once again changed your mind and bought back in at a loss (
sold it all near $200 and won't buy again before the crash after ATH) you would be down almost 50% of your BTC portfolio, at this point. That's assuming you were able to trade yourself back up after selling it all at $120. If you managed to do so then all power to you. It just doesn't seem like your strategy has been very successful from what you have been posting here, feel free to prove me wrong or don't give a fuck.
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Post 3535666 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Looks like we're going below $300.
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Post 3541865 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Triple apple bottom?? looks like we're going:
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Post 3543603 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
btc-e is an anonymous exchange, people may be willing to pay for such privilege? They deposit with bitcoin/litecoin, sell, buy back later and withdraw with bitcoin/litecoin and never have to identify themselves.
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Post 3543742 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
btc-e is an anonymous exchange, people may be willing to pay for such privilege? They deposit with bitcoin/litecoin, sell, buy back later and withdraw with bitcoin/litecoin and never have to identify themselves.
Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. So how do they pay out dollar? Or are you saying they don't require ids for bitcoin payouts?
I'm just glad that there's multiple exchanges doing volume.
They require id if you want to deposit USD using bank transfer, but you can easily withdraw any cryptocurrency without id. In fact I think no id is required for cashing out USD either. Then they have USD deposit options such as perfect money which are also anonymous.
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- New Trade engine and yet they still suffer lag
No, they have apparently finished the new trading engine (midas) months ago, but it still has not been integrated, they are currently running the old laggy engine, but with much improved hardware.
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Post 3554466 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Well, except from reporting you for being a terrorist, holding the bitcoinica funds hostage, laggy engine, leaking 60k user accounts, ddos panic crash, delayed fiat withdraws, networks congestion delayed btc withdraws, ltc 6 months++ delay and rude support replies. Mark seems like a pretty cool guy.
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Post 3554517 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
I think I was one of the last ones to successfully withdraw from gox, thankfully pulled out all I needed to buy my house before the withdraw problems started.
Although it was at an average of $120/btc, missed the 266 bubble and this runup... Would have been way better off with a mortgage.
You can talk about sellers remorse in a couple of years.
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Post 3563888 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Cup and handle has been forming on all four major exchanges the last four to five days. Very bullish.
Indeed. Tea party !
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Post 3563959 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Not going to lie, the more i read about people investing money from their loans, college funds, etc to buy btc I'm starting to get nervous..
We've been over 300 for how long?
We've been reading about this for a long time. Remember Falkvinge who put all his savings and loan into bitcoin at around $10?
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Post 3572633 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):
Bid depth has reached ATH on gox despite their market share being significantly reduced. Pretty bullish, although some of it may simply be people "unable" to withdraw placing bids.
[source]
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What could this mean if volume starts reaching that of traditional markets
Then I hope you are already wearing your space suit.
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比特币
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The crash from the eventual high is going to be epic.
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Post 3616939 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):
I think the total bid depth on Gox is more surprising than the price. Why is so much money flowing into Gox? Not only are coin prices significantly higher on Gox, but it's practically impossible to get money back out. I really don't get it.
The higher the price ,when one sells the bigger will be his bank roll.
I'd imagine that quite a few who sell on mtgox have intentions to buy back in lower because it's so difficult to withdraw large sums quickly. So they place their bid and wish for a crash.
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Post 3616959 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):
The crash from the eventual high is going to be epic.
LOL, some of the people here will still be holding their BTC when they look like the guy in the bottom half of that picture.
Bitcoin : You really can take it with you when you die.
I'll sell a few close to $1000
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Couple of coins still up for grab below $550:
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Post 3653587 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
My intention is to warn you guys to practice proper risk management because inevitably, even with a small investment, your Bitcoin allocation will be the main source of your wealth. Marginal utility of wealth dictates that it's more important to secure your first million than to make another.
I've seen it go down from 32 to 2 and it was a really bullish environment too until about 14. Don't fool yourself thinking it can't happen again today. That's just the nature of humans.
+1
I, for one, gotta say thanks for this comment,
Blitz. I'm new to this forum but really appreciate your comments here-- I know that I certainly have ridiculously risky appetite, despite a fairly good knowledge (for a non-pro trader) of position sizing and risk allocation. Do I properly size my positions, do I use a trailing stop, do I take profits appropriately, and cut losses every time? Certainly, I feel like these are my weakest areas. Finding BTC is probably the hard part. Now that I'm here, I should really exert those controls and be patient.
Do you have any more suggestions on/about BTC risk management? (excuse me, as I haven't read back through the last 20 pps)
Cheers!
You're asking the right guy for advice.
Here's a few of his pretty good predictions back in july:
Goodbye, triple digits. See you 2015.
After this week, I'm not sure we will see triple digits in 2013 again.
This has never been a billion dollar market to begin with. Triple digit, billion, those are things of a faint past.
No more triple digits for 2013.
Noone buys the triple digit lie anymore.
Looks like MtGox is beginning to shake off its denial and join the ranks of the 80s. This is only the beginning.
What if the buyer is an established casino firm that wanted to get into the Bitcoin game? If that's the case, then they would've been accumulating beforehand and have been responsible for some of the buying pressure. This would now be gone, along with 350k coins released on the market.
I smell blood.
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Post 3653661 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
You actually went through the trouble of finding all those posts and putting them in quotes
I already quoted this before, just re-posted it. And I'm not mad at all, I think this is hilarious. Just posted for lulz.
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Post 3653763 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
I wonder if there are similarly hilarious bull quotes from me from the past. Too lazy to search. Get on it Kozi.
I had a good laugh @ 1k prediction that bruce wagner was throwing around and increased to 10k during the 2011 rally. But with his strategy "buy now, never sell" you'd still be pretty well off today.
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Post 3653827 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
up uP UP!!
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Post 3655274 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Currency of the future. My payment of xx:18 still has 0 confirmations at xx:51. Sorry I could not dump you sooner, my coins
This is why bitcoin might die soon. Because there are to many people who don't understand, that the value of bitcoin is based on the promise of fast and cheap transactions. They dream of some kind of electric gold and this will make bitcoin drop to zero.
If you can't pay your 3$ coffee without an 3$ fee, bitcoin is worth shit.
Should I sell my bitcoins
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Post 3655376 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
What a retarded dump. epic failed.
The dumps serve twofold purpose:
- Opportunity to sell many coins at reasonable prices
- Scare effect.
occam says dump = taking profits
We don't need fiat profits.
The ones who are interested in fiat do not have so many coins that they could make a dent in the price. As I told above, dump is either manipulative speculation (I) or nasty manipulative speculation (II).
Remember - manipulators are never out of coins.
Yes but it looks like most of them might have $ signs on atm. That looked more like minnows than a whale, maybe just another shakeout though.
The battle is during the next 24-48 hours. If we can force China to stay below 4000, even better <3000, and make a row of daily red candles in western exchanges, then this was officially a bubble, and a bear market will commence for the remainder of the year. The price is still so high, it is profitable to sell and buy back cheaper -
I invite you to join the BEARS! Are you full of crap?
Nope, but he has unlimited money.
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Post 3655458 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
stamp > gox by 20? WTF?
What happened with all those people crying that they can't get money out of gox?
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Post 3655512 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Somebody just put up a 2k wall at $600 on gox ... opportunity gone
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Post 3655633 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
The highly secure blockchain is the right medium for small transfers. You will have to have the possibility to buy every day stuff with your smartphone with bitcoin, or it will die. Period. Off-the-chain is the most stupid shit I heard the last weeks.
Everybody is talking about regulations, senate hearings, peeing their pants whether the Chinese will accept bitcoins or whatever. But the real thread are the users/speculators who think you have to have the whole blockchain in your pocket.
Bitcoin has the ultimate chance to replace visa etc..
7 Billion people with 1-5 transactions a day, that should be the goal of bitcoin.
If this is not going to be implemented the next months I will sell out and watch one of the greatest projects in our time die.
Guys, you heard it from [Date Registered: November 15, 2013, 01:22:48 PM], show's over. See you at the next Ponzi.
Yea, here I have been buying bitcoins since 2011 thinking it would be the future of money and then this guy appears out of no where and totally blows my mind and makes me realize that it's all over, it will die if it can't facilitate 7 billion people in the next months. Man, how things can change.
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Post 3655904 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
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Post 3655967 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
First of all, a store of value is
not a highly volatile asset class. What makes you believe that Bitcoin will ever not be volatile?
Trade and speculation will decrease volatility, the more speculators we have the more people are trying to grab profit and their margins will decrease, leading to a more stable market. A large market cap is also a part of that.
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount...
If bitcoin becomes the only currency left you will compare it with cars and houses, food and cloths.
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Post 3655995 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Bitcoin gets exponentially more volatile over time until all numbers infinitely small towards 0 and infinitely large are exhausted and the universe impldes.
I agree that Bitcoin will become more volatile over time.
In absolute numbers, sure, in percentages, take a look at the last 2 bubbles.
+1
We'll be seeing $100 swings like it's nothing in the future, but % swings will be very low.
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Post 3656128 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
The first goal of bitcoin should be to be able to handle the same amount of transactions as visa.
And it is 1700 visa transactions vs 7 possible bitcoin transactions.
I don't understand why so many don't want to see that problem. Still high from the last ath?
Bitcoin is not gold.
Bitcoin is not gold, it's gold 2.0. The whole point of bitcoin is to have money that are decentralized so that government cannot control it. By increasing the blocksize limit too much you will lose that decentralization as the blockchain becomes hosted at few, centralized servers. We don't want such control point, therefore the limit must be increased in accordance to the technological development. We have plenty of time before we need bitcoin to do anything near the volume of VISA. And it certainly isn't the first goal. Bitcoin is first and foremost gold 2.0, and we can use it as a debt settlement mechanism.
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Post 3656212 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Do anyone know why Bitstamp is more expensive than mtgox atm?
I believe there was some issue with fiat deposit that recently got solved. Could be a lot of money hitting the exchange all wanting to get in at once.
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Post 3656473 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
But whatever. This is offtopic anyways and we will see whether bitcoin will be destroyed by the gold gold gold idiots or if it excels because of its technical advantages.
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Post 3665203 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
I know it hurts to have sold at $600 and below, but time to buy back your coins bears... because:
to the bears i say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ch000 ch00000 motherf0ck0rz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This.
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Post 3665362 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
any bears left? xD
Me, and Wekkel. Everybody else is all in.
- Wekkel, do you by chance have 20,000 coins? Lets sell the crap out of this sucker's trap!
You might have been a big player before, but now you're just a small fish. Second Market alone has bought tens of thousands of coins, big players are entering the game and they will run all over you. Just hold!!
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Post 3669408 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
Any particular reason why the bitcoin price would surge due to merchant adoption? Let's all be honest with each other, bitcoin is still hard as fuck to use for the average person when buying something. Couple that with the volatility and there's just no incentive for anyone to use bitcoin over dollars.
All it would achieve is bring in more speculators who want in on the craze because they think they might make some profit. Yes that might surge the price temporarily, but it would drop just as fast as soon as everyone realizes everyone else is just here to make profits.
Are you frozenlock or why you have his image?
Who is frozenlock?
The guy on his picture. He seems to be off the forum for the few months, he stopped trading...
It's frozenlock, he thinks we're dummies.
If he didn't close that short, it may explain his absence.
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Post 3680242 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Have we confirmed whether or not there is a Chinese version of bitcointalk?
I want to know whether or not they are aware of the $1k psychological barrier over here.
how dumb you think they are?
haha LOLed at this comment. People are discussing the Chinese like they're aliens.
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Post 3680395 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
I think it's hilarious people think bitcoin is going mainstream. It's no way near ready to go mainstream, not the exchanges, not the protocol, not the services built around it. No way the price is going to stay at 1000+ for very long. Hordes of speculators will cash out. Yes i'm as bearish as it gets at the moment.
It's almost like by wearing his avatar you have become frozenlock himself. Possessed by his sly smile and moving eyebrows he may lead you to place a short position at the very bottom. Careful now.
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Post 3681156 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
<quote>Here, watch me light a fart on fire.</quote>
Another charming adolescent male.
I think you may have missed the ironic part of that.
Hhhm...you think?
I'm not going to argue but fart lighting is a frat-house activity isn't it and I really have seen enough soft-porn on here to realise this thread is essentially an old boys club.
I'm covering this subject (the sexism around here) in another thread, so best avoid any further comment
peace
Nan
Gentlemen, it seems like we have an infiltrator
Who cares, to the moon.
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Post 3681591 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Im scared to buy in because we are a little bit over on the log chart expected value regression line. We are also entering the weekend but that hasn't mattered very much lately. Ive missed the most recent train a few times but i still want to hop aboard. Any thoughts from you guys?
This thing is going to $1000 and beyond soon. Within the next 7 1/2 days. However, it's trying to get there a lot sooner.
There is going to be A LOT of resistance between 800-1000. But, China is going to awake soon and when they do they have the potential to drag everyone and their mothers through that resistance fast. So, we could get there in 2 days fastest case scenario.
If I had to guess we are going to fight our way to $1000 over the next 4-7 days. Then after a few attempts we will break through $1000. By then China will be waking up and the crazy bull rush will be on again. Then we are probably off to see 10k CYN or $1630.
The LONGER it takes us to break $1000, the HIGHER we will go.
If you are looking for scalp trades you can do so until then. If you just want to make money and don't need it back in the next couple of weeks, buy as soon as you'd like.
This. 100%. I'm not selling a single bitcoin before we're well into the 4-digits. Just look at the recovery, the ATH of bids in the order depth. The massive media coverage and influx of new users.
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Post 3681886 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Now that's the right approach nanobrain
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Post 3686266 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
No excuse to not move from mtgox to bitstamp now for those who still are stuck... $845 bitstamp, $825 mtgox...
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Post 3686286 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
No excuse to not move from mtgox to bitstamp now for those who still are stuck... $845 bitstamp, $825 mtgox...
Hah, try doing that when Gox holds your coins hostage for 48 hours.
That's why you never go full fiat. Never go full fiat.
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Post 3696490 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
I now he said that , but you didn't denied the word everyone , just the time frame.
And I really don't get it how you can say everyone is wealthy now by the 1950 standards.
Wha??? Even the beggars are bow wealthy by the feudal age standard?
I 'm missing something or I haven't had enough coffee.
Again, I said "almost everyone," so not necessarily including beggars. Consider how much things have really changed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LJ3wZjD4I&t=3m45sThis speech is really good, thanks.
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Post 3698232 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Do you suppose this might have something to do with why you turned out to be an independent thinker?
Well
I also don't own a TV, go shopping, read magazines/newspapers,
eat processed food, use microwave, never had a 9-5 job etc.
A clear recipe for becoming a business magnate. Try it, you may be surprised
A clear recipe for becoming locked up in an asylum.
Hopefully this comment is not too soon.
it is hard for the normal people to tell the difference between crazy and brilliant.
trust me when i got into btc at first, people thought i was crazy, now they think im brilliant.
really im some of both, muhahahahhahahaha
btw ch0000000000000000 ch0000000000000000000 mfs!!!!!!!!!
You did the same?
I'm pretty sure he went all in at $3, don't think he'll ever have to worry about work.
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Post 3728431 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
When we left $1 the price went below again later.
When we left $10 the price went below again later.
When we left $100 the price went below again later.
I'd like to see $1000 be the trend reverser, where we leave all previous digits behind for good.
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Post 3728668 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
If you run fast enough you may still be able to get on
choo choo
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Post 3729156 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
If you run fast enough you may still be able to get on
choo choo
These "losing the train" pics are killing me. TheKozi: I miss your songs and animated gifs, it's about time for some more.
Animated gifs are disabled now. All images are run through a proxy to protect our privacy, this proxy doesn't support gifs properly. I'd love more bitcoin songs, the reason I don't make any is that it's difficult to think of anything good right now. Why not try to make something yourself? Pick a song, replace lyrics, pay cheap singer, done
Guys: imagine the kind of pain those who dared to short bitcoins are into. We had a couple of those guys during the summer, do you remember them?
That's why we got to keep posting these "losing the train" pics, it creates emotional uncertainty, and then panic buys will bring us to $1000 and beyond.
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Post 3729569 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
"Bitcoin could make people dynastically rich. Because the price of Bitcoin could go all the way to $1 million or more" - Henry Blodget
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Post 3729582 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
800 BTC wall at $970
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Post 3729745 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
Someone create a radio show from this thread please!
I know right? most fun I ever had in a message board...I love you folks
You know, bitcointalk is probably one of the message boards with the largest number of new rich people as well. Laughs like
this helps cheer everybody up
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Post 3729919 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
omg page 2
666!!! the apocalypses is here!
What's really cool is that the bitcoin price seems to increasingly catch up with the page numbers in this topic. It may actually surpass it one day
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Post 3730907 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
We really need to get that mBTC switch done so that people can stop buying LTC thinking it's "cheap".
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Post 3731071 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
LTC is the largest threat to crypto. If it wins, everyone loses. Not even jokin' mang. It needs to crash. Not I want but we need.
If you want to see how irrational people who claim to be "rational" can be, just find yourself a litecoin user. They gain no benefit from using litecoin except providing some funding to BTC-E in ways of fees and give the public and investors a reason to be skeptical.
It used to me that we could laugh off queries about why someone couldn't just make up a new coin that would make theirs worth less. We'd laugh and say "because people aren't so stupid as to actively ruin their own investments!" Our laughter is a lot more nervous now. Turns out people are so stupid.
The only possible goal of litecoin is to make all cryptocurrency worth nothing in the long term.
I keep seeing tards asking "when will 4 LTC = 1 BTC" thinking it's inevitable because there are 4 times as many LTC. Well, what they don't seem to realize is that if this happens both LTC and BTC will be worthless because long before this becomes a reality it will be clear to everyone that bitcoin can be inflated thus invalidating the limited supply and paving way for unlimited other currencies to be included (and unlimited inflation).
I don't think this will happen though, there is very little support for LTC and other alternative currencies beyond wild speculation. Also if anything new significant comes out, bitcoiners have vested interest in adopting those features into bitcoin.
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Post 3731106 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
Maybe one of the reasons people are so keen for mBTC to be adopted as the "industry standard" is that they're scared Litecoin is too attractively priced.
Litecoin is living proof that by switching to mBTC bitcoin could go much much higher based on that psychological effect alone. Think about it, right now LTC is where bitcoin was at 21*4 = $84. Do you think people would buy litecoin if there was only 21 million and price was $84? Probably not. Bitcoin was much further ahead in terms of merchants and media exposure than litecoin is today when it was at $84.
Once we switch to mBTC bitcoin will look very cheap again at $0.95, and sky is the limit.
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Post 3731129 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
LTC is the largest threat to crypto. If it wins, everyone loses. Not even jokin' mang. It needs to crash. Not I want but we need.
If you want to see how irrational people who claim to be "rational" can be, just find yourself a litecoin user. They gain no benefit from using litecoin except providing some funding to BTC-E in ways of fees and give the public and investors a reason to be skeptical.
It used to me that we could laugh off queries about why someone couldn't just make up a new coin that would make theirs worth less. We'd laugh and say "because people aren't so stupid as to actively ruin their own investments!" Our laughter is a lot more nervous now. Turns out people are so stupid.
The only possible goal of litecoin is to make all cryptocurrency worth nothing in the long term.
I keep seeing tards asking "when will 4 LTC = 1 BTC" thinking it's inevitable because there are 4 times as many LTC. Well, what they don't seem to realize is that if this happens both LTC and BTC will be worthless because long before this becomes a reality it will be clear to everyone that bitcoin can be inflated thus invalidating the limited supply and paving way for unlimited other currencies to be included (and unlimited inflation).
I don't think this will happen though, there is very little support for LTC and other alternative currencies beyond wild speculation. Also if anything new significant comes out, bitcoiners have vested interest in adopting those features into bitcoin.
It is quite possible that LTC will do poorly with respect to BTC but very well with respect to USD. EUR, CAD etc., sort of like silver has done with respect to both gold and fiat. Now will 15.5 oz of silver ever equal 1 oz of gold again?
Yeah I agree. I think the LTC/BTC ratio will keep dropping over time while the value goes up in USD. LTC is not keeping up with the progress bitcoin is making, the ratio has to fall.
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The price was $958 yesterday at one point. Since then we have gone up $266
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Post 3757621 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
$1175 on gox and $967 on btc-e. That's $208 per coin up for grab...
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Post 3759417 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
What the hell is going on?
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Post 3766903 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
Still figuring out how Bitcoin = Edison's renegade currency...
exceedingly annoying commentator. I'm half way through. Does he EVER describe anything, or just list a load of anecdotes, like a cheap pyramid scheme video ??
edit: sorry I couldn't finish it. Really got on my tits
Definitely directed for old people. They do kinda explain the bitcoin network, but not very well. Some good points about how the modern fiat currencies work, though.
This is so surreal. Feels like they're pushing a get rich scheme, a lot of hype/bullish talk in this video. And then there is also eventually promotion of a "get started" package for bitcoin named "Edison's revevenge: cashing in on bitcoin's unprecedented windfalls".
A few quotes:
"Bitcoin is the realization of edisons dream come true."
"Sure, you can lose some of it, or it can make you richer than your wildest dreams"
"The most exciting investment opportunity on the planet"
edit: once the video is finished you get redirected
here. No bitcoin payment option though, lol.
edit 2: if you close the page you're offered the book for
free. Classic.
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Post 3767010 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
So with the "get rich quick" schemers on board is that a bullish sign or a bearish sign?
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Post 3767090 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
So with the "get rich quick" schemers on board is that a bullish sign or a bearish sign?
First one, then the other.
lol
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Post 3814742 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
Wow. Bitcoinity.org switched to mBTC as default!
bullish as fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know what this means guys? Now the price can go all the way from $1 to $1000
one more time.
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Post 3826402 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
We should use some of our new-found wealth to fund a bitcoin country, something like what seasteading institute is doing. We shouldn't have to waste money on taxes when it can be used for so much good instead.
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Post 3826804 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
We should use some of our new-found wealth to fund a bitcoin country, something like what seasteading institute is doing. We shouldn't have to waste money on taxes when it can be used for so much good instead.
We may soon be able to found a
semi-autonomous city in Honduras.
Thanks, I remember watching that video and it sounded really exciting. Will definitely have to keep an eye on this.
"I can guarantee that hard-core libertarians are going to be disappointed with the first zones"Well, at least a step in the right direction. Competitive governments is the way to go.
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Post 3829776 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):
This is The Great Crash!
I WAS RIGHT!!!
Yep, crashed right back up to 1230+ LOL
Someone (or a few people) dumped over 1000 coins and we are almost back to where we started on GOX. That seems impressive to me. I don't know. I think in the past a dump like that would have caused more panic.
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8000 BTC dumped so far on gox without a single uptick
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Went up to 12k while I uploaded this picture.
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Don't be sad, now your losses will be so great that you won't have to pay capital gains after all
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Post 3858993 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):
I did one thing right today, I sold at 1050 and 1095. The big mistake was buying back at $903
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Post 3872364 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
My thought is a long slow decline to 266ish (450, 333, idk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fisXRmdTR54
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Post 3898261 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
only 200 BTC takes us to $265 on Stamp.
visited silk road lately?
Failed attempt at FUD to buy in lower
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Is he for real? Dude is practically jizzing his pants
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It really feels good when the train goes choo-choo man
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Post 3899082 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
Is he for real? Dude is practically jizzing his pants
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It really feels good when the train goes choo-choo man
Man, how do you find that stuff? That's hilarious
Basically just made a search for "excited train leaving" on youtube
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Watch out bears, here comes the choochoo.
Damn. Animated gif isn't working for some reason.ah so its not just me.
Imaged are proxied now:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343912.0hopefully they'll find a better proxy that can support gifs.
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Post 3931119 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
We are in a full bull market now and wishful thinking won't change a thing. Expect the price to go up for a long while (except the bounces here and there).
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Post 3931268 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
I seriously can't believe people are still trading on MtGox.
I use mtgox because I don't trust any other entity with much of my funds. We've seen many exchanges come and go (bitcoin24,bitcoin7,tradehill,bitparking etc) but mtgox has been here all the time.
Mtgox also has the highest price (and much volume/depth) and I am able to withdraw euro (or simply wait for price to equal any other exchange which happens occasionally). If I'm going to sell, it makes sense to sell for the highest price I can get.
In conclusion I like gox, and I feel that my funds are safe with them.
Goxxing doesn't bother me so much, yes it can be annoying, but trust is more important for me (but i don't trade a lot anyways). I think btc-e is great, low fees, many trading opportunities, but I don't trust them as much (or more precise I'm fearing that they will eventually be targeted by law enforcement).
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Post 3931920 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
I seriously can't believe people are still trading on MtGox.
I use mtgox because I don't trust any other entity with much of my funds. We've seen many exchanges come and go (bitcoin24,bitcoin7,tradehill,bitparking etc) but mtgox has been here all the time.
Mtgox also has the highest price (and much volume/depth) and I am able to withdraw euro (or simply wait for price to equal any other exchange which happens occasionally). If I'm going to sell, it makes sense to sell for the highest price I can get.
In conclusion I like gox, and I feel that my funds are safe with them.
Goxxing doesn't bother me so much, yes it can be annoying, but trust is more important for me (but i don't trade a lot anyways). I think btc-e is great, low fees, many trading opportunities, but I don't trust them as much (or more precise I'm fearing that they will eventually be targeted by law enforcement).
How can you trust gox? How many times they have promised to do something and then just not done it? Only thing they have done is to be there, but that's only because people are willing to pay that outrageous fee and doesn't mind that they are ass raped in every major movement, Mark is doing
a lot of money.
0.60% fee should be enough for everyone to fuck them off. It's scandalous fee.
I'd say 100% fee is much worse.
(i wish mtgox would change their fee schedule to account for usd instead of btc though, but I have less than 0.5% fee at least)
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Post 3932410 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
I seriously can't believe people are still trading on MtGox.
I use mtgox because I don't trust any other entity with much of my funds. We've seen many exchanges come and go (bitcoin24,bitcoin7,tradehill,bitparking etc) but mtgox has been here all the time.
Mtgox also has the highest price (and much volume/depth) and I am able to withdraw euro (or simply wait for price to equal any other exchange which happens occasionally). If I'm going to sell, it makes sense to sell for the highest price I can get.
In conclusion I like gox, and I feel that my funds are safe with them.
Goxxing doesn't bother me so much, yes it can be annoying, but trust is more important for me (but i don't trade a lot anyways). I think btc-e is great, low fees, many trading opportunities, but I don't trust them as much (or more precise I'm fearing that they will eventually be targeted by law enforcement).
How can you trust gox? How many times they have promised to do something and then just not done it? Only thing they have done is to be there, but that's only because people are willing to pay that outrageous fee and doesn't mind that they are ass raped in every major movement, Mark is doing
a lot of money.
0.60% fee should be enough for everyone to fuck them off. It's scandalous fee.
I'd say 100% fee is much worse.
(i wish mtgox would change their fee schedule to account for usd instead of btc though, but I have less than 0.5% fee at least)
You would have 0.2 on stamp and isn't stamp worth more trust?
I don't trust bitstamp more, I know they are located in the UK, but I don't know much about the owners. Did they apply for the appropriate licenses ? the reason gox is having withdraw delays (from what I understand) is that they are trying to get licensed, if bitstamp doesn't go that route it does come with a decent amount of legal risk. The price on bitstamp is very low compared to gox, but every now and then the price evens out, why sell at bitstamp when you can sell for $100 or even $200 more on gox? $100 extra makes the 0.6% fee looks like silly money.
Then there was a very critical security issue discovered in bitstamps trading engine , did that get fixed yet?
Another reason that doesn't really apply to their trustworthiness is that I can't use their 2 factor authentication atm, while with gox I have a yubikey. Not having 2 factor makes me feel more uneasy about keeping large sums on any exchange.
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Post 3932498 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
Curious - how can you surmise age from writing style? I've never heard that before (except perhaps for people so young they haven't finished school yet).
Would you care to take a shot at mine?
mid-twenties?
Thanks, I'll look at that.
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Post 3932528 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the richest bitcoiner of them all?
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Post 3935722 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
fcking clarkmoody still doesnt work for me
Just use this site:
http://trading.i286.org/pubnub.html
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Post 5180901 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):
Is Mark Karpeles the officially the most hated person in the bitcoin community now?
I would have absolutely no surprise or remorse if something happened to him. This is people's livelihood he's messed with, for too long, and at this point - he deserves whatever's waiting for him
Come on guys, isn't this a little harsh?
What are you basing all this on? The FUD being spread by 2013-2014 users about mtgox being insolvent?
Mtgox has had quite a few fuck-ups throughout the years, but they have always refunded users and mtgox even bailed out other hacked exchanges. The amount of money they have made in fees is likely hundred thousands of BTC. I just don't see how they can be insolvent at this point.
Some incompetence, or maybe just stubbornness of Mark to do all the programming himself? I don't know, but I can't really hate him for it. As long as I am given my BTC within a reasonable time (few weeks) I don't really see an issue. Friends of mine received fiat withdraws this year. It doesn't scream scam to me, just a lot of trouble, maybe a CEO who can't handle it all.
But calling for somebody dropping him dead, wishing him ill etc is really not the time, if he end up scamming / not giving back funds then fair enough, but too soon imo.
I think this will blow over within the next few weeks, when bitcoin withdraws are enabled and the mtgox price is sky high again everybody will be happy again (except those doing stupid trades right now).
I'm buying with both hands on gox,
we should cheer Mark for gifting us these very cheap bitcoins.
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Post 5258974 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Can we get a poll about what people who have btc trapped on gox are doing ?
Like my btc on gox was
1. Sold at 140 and I'm in fiat
2. Bought in with remaining goxbux balance
3. Taken by unicorns which mark is riding to the moon
And we'll have lots of people who haven't got a single coin or cent at gox voting 3
and then we have people like me who deposit fiat and buy more btc.
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Post 5259347 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Can we get a poll about what people who have btc trapped on gox are doing ?
Like my btc on gox was
1. Sold at 140 and I'm in fiat
2. Bought in with remaining goxbux balance
3. Taken by unicorns which mark is riding to the moon
And we'll have lots of people who haven't got a single coin or cent at gox voting 3
and then we have people like me who deposit fiat and buy more btc.
At what price did you start to buy?
~$330, but only about 20k, working on depositing more now. Did a few trades on bitcoinbuilder too, but the rate there isn't good enough compared to fiat deposit.
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Post 5263159 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Wait a sec, so people just sold because they thought bitstamp disabled withdrawals??
They sold because they think people will sell because bitstamp disabled withdraws.
Dumps on Gox, I wonder if we'll see double digits today?
I sure hope so. I just sent ~50k to mtgox. Would be a dream come true to buy in double digit.
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Post 5263761 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Wait a sec, so people just sold because they thought bitstamp disabled withdrawals??
They sold because they think people will sell because bitstamp disabled withdraws.
Dumps on Gox, I wonder if we'll see double digits today?
I sure hope so. I just sent ~50k to mtgox. Would be a dream come true to buy in double digit.
To buy back in double digits and never be able to withdraw them again?
That's what I'm betting against. Observe the masses and do the opposite. The herd is panic selling so I'm buying their panic sold coins. If I'm wrong, well, at least I will have had the odds on my side.
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Post 5264088 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
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Post 5264267 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
That's amazing. You're willing to risk all that money?
This isn't my only deposit to gox recently and may not be the last one either. I simply do not buy the idea that mtgox is insolvent. They have made far too many BTC since they came online in 2010. I don't feel like I'm taking much risk and if mtgox has lost 50% of their BTC I still win. Honestly, what are the odds mtgox has lost 50% of their bitcoin?
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Post 5264331 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
Just wondering, no offense intended, what makes you think you will be able to withdraw these newly bought btc, before others get their withdrawals?
And based on the accusations of MtGox running fractional reserve, do you believe you can withdraw those btc you buy?
I sold at ~$580, assuming I get to buy in at $130 thats 4.46x my investment. In other words: mtgox must have lost 75% > of their BTC for me to lose. Not a bad bet. I don't believe the accusations that they are running fractional reserve in the first place, so I'm obviously hoping that I will be able to withdraw all.
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Post 5264409 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
He doesn't need to withdraw them.
Sell 50% of them @ bitcoinbuilder.com
The rest is riskfree and 100% profit (if he is ever able to withdraw gox coins)
I can certainly do that too, but I'll probably keep the BTC and bet on gox being solvent. I do take some risk by selling btc and transfering usd to mtgox, the price could go anywhere while I'm waiting and I have to trust an intermediary (which is why I won't transfer too much per batch).
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Post 5264605 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
Did you make that deposit today and got it in instantly?
Yes I made this today and it should arrive tomorrow based on my previous transactions. It takes about 1 business day for money to arrive.
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Post 5264920 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
Did you make that deposit today and got it in instantly?
Yes I made this today and it should arrive tomorrow based on my previous transactions. It takes about 1 business day for money to arrive.
Well done. You will probably buy more than 500 BTC with that amount.. If Gox can pull their shit together you will be looking at a huge instant profit.
In other news: my concern is not Gox being insolvent "because they lost the coins". My concerns is they are in VERY deep shit for various reasons and funds might be stuck in there for very long.
EUR withdrawals still worked you say? Only smallish ones and VERY slowly. When it takes 6 weeks to process a fiat withdrawal, then something VERY bad is happening. I mean... If I tell to my bank to do a 300k transfer, they do it immediately, and in max. 2/3 days the money arrives to the account where I sent it. If they have to wait WEEKS to be able to send the money, then there is a serious problem somewhere. They won't tell us what is the problem and they make up BS excuses about their "huge volume" overwhelming the banks. In my book, that's very worrying.
From what I understand their bank account has limits of say 200k EUR per day. That means waiting queue. They may be incompetent dealing with the legal issues, (e.g 5m USD frozen in US) and are stuck with these low limit bank accounts. I can see mtgox slowly losing it's market share due to their inability to take care of these issues, but as long as they're not arrested (and I do realize this is a risk so I try to limit my exposure to any exchanges) they will keep pumping funds out slowly, but surely imo. Long story short I don't believe Mark has some evil masterplan to run off with all the btc, nor do I believe they are insolvent. They just can't deal with the "real world".
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Post 5265142 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.
Did you make that deposit today and got it in instantly?
Yes I made this today and it should arrive tomorrow based on my previous transactions. It takes about 1 business day for money to arrive.
Well done. You will probably buy more than 500 BTC with that amount.. If Gox can pull their shit together you will be looking at a huge instant profit.
In other news: my concern is not Gox being insolvent "because they lost the coins". My concerns is they are in VERY deep shit for various reasons and funds might be stuck in there for very long.
EUR withdrawals still worked you say? Only smallish ones and VERY slowly. When it takes 6 weeks to process a fiat withdrawal, then something VERY bad is happening. I mean... If I tell to my bank to do a 300k transfer, they do it immediately, and in max. 2/3 days the money arrives to the account where I sent it. If they have to wait WEEKS to be able to send the money, then there is a serious problem somewhere. They won't tell us what is the problem and they make up BS excuses about their "huge volume" overwhelming the banks. In my book, that's very worrying.
From what I understand their bank account has limits of say 200k EUR per day. That means waiting queue. They may be incompetent dealing with the legal issues, (e.g 5m USD frozen in US) and are stuck with these low limit bank accounts. I can see mtgox slowly losing it's market share due to their inability to take care of these issues, but as long as they're not arrested (and I do realize this is a risk so I try to limit my exposure to any exchanges) they will keep pumping funds out slowly, but surely imo. Long story short I don't believe Mark has some evil masterplan to run off with all the btc, nor do I believe they are insolvent. They just can't deal with the "real world".
I am of this opinion as well. I think incompetence is driving this situation more than anything else.
Please care to explain how do you see the difference ?
From outside, just no way, same symptom for both
Don't get me wrong it's my bet also but before more information both are correct working hypothesis
As a 2011 kid I've seen gox incompetence for years. It's nothing new and this is just another chapter in the book of gox. Newbies don't see the difference because they don't know the history. It's like they open the last chapter in the book and at that point it has turned really ugly, but they need to have read the whole book to get a full picture of why things are looking so ugly.
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Post 5265634 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
I'd like to suggest some calming music during these crazy Bitcoin times:
Elvis Costello - I Can't Stand Up For Falling Down
Tom Petty - Freefalling
Tom Waits - Down Down Down
and when it gets really bad:
the doors - this is the end
and when all your btc are worthless / have been lost / bitcoin is dead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM
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Post 5265774 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
$580 is bitstamp bottom?
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Post 5266383 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
So...did you record
this song after traveling back in time after you've done this?
Heh and just today after listening to it I sent you a small tip, asking myself "I wonder what she'll do with that money"
Who would have guessed.
Anyway, as a fellow gambler: if you feel the odds are right and you have the bankroll to take the risk - go for it and good luck!
Thanks for the tips and good luck wishes, that reminds me, the address is still pointing towards my mtgox account.
Heh and just today after listening to it I sent you a small tip, asking myself "I wonder what
she'll do with that money"
Who would have guessed.
IIRC, Kozi is not the one that actually sung the song, but made the lyrics. So could be a "he" too.
Truth is I found a singer on fiverr. I'm glad to hear they accept bitcoin now
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Post 5266621 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Cannot believe those idiots are still allowing trading. I've written off my 6 btc with them at this point. Assholes
Why would they not allow trading? They're making good money now, especially with the volatility we're seeing. If you have written off your 6 btc as lost you may as well trade it for some bitcoins, right? I'll take it for 1.5 real btc.
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Post 5287999 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):
the experience of owning some btc and using it yourself is beyond description and without this particular experience you can't ever hope to approach anything resembling an "objective opinion" on the technology.
+1
that is correct. once you have used the bitcoin protocol, experience the smoothness, the speed, the power to move wealth with you fingertips, its elegance and that is it is bringing financial sovereignty to yourself, it becomes more obvious to you, that the traditional way to bank people is utterly non-modern, as outdated as public stagecoaches in times of internet/email.
the internet revolutionized the way we communicate. bitcoin will monetarize the internet and revolutionize the way we move money.
Bitcoin is overhyped, overvalued, overcentralized...see Gox, Asic and the bitcoinfoundation full of corrupted fucktards who want to sell out to Goldman Sucks...
Any other crypto is better...especially Litecoin is faster and more promising....get off the dying horse...
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Post 5317639 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.16h):
I didn't understand either. I thought it was mark doing some kind of manipulation to wipe out everyone who attempted to trade.
It was Mark and cronies selling...no one else ever did !...Btc withdrawl never opens again...you won´t see Mark ever again in public !
The Sepa and Yen queues will work as long as there is more inflow than outflow when not being seized finally.
Everything else is complete brain -dead shell speculation.
Cheers
Actually, surfer43 sold at $140.
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The recent price rise at Gox just screwed me majorly.
+1
So you've both sold goxcoins for less than $200?
140
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Post 5339150 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade.
Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire.
I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely
He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far.
Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that.
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Post 5339555 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade.
Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire.
I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely
He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far.
Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that.
Kozi, I miss your animated gifs. And I really miss your musical videos. Really.
Heeey i got a fan !
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Post 5339838 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade.
Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire.
I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely
He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far.
Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that.
Kozi, I miss your animated gifs. And I really miss your musical videos. Really.
Heeey i got a fan !
I will use that gif in the Gox's delays thread with your permission
haha do as you want with it
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Post 5339893 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that.
Well, you are not the only one who experienced the 'negative balance' bug in Bitcoin Builder.
Though in my case Josh responded to my e-mail in less than 24 hrs and fixed the problem.
(Other than that, everything went OK for me, including withdrawals.)
Ahh cool. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with this issue and that it was solved. I actually "fixed it" myself by buying back lower, that took the minus balance into plus and even made me a decent profit. Now I'll just have to wait and see if payment goes through today.
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Post 5345336 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
Well, I just executed arbitrage between Stamp and BTC-e. I have 1100$ more now, though most of my fiat is on BTC-e now, not on Stamp. Hopefully, Putin won't killed BTC-e owners now :
nice, I used to to trade LTC there, but it has been 4 months since my last trade there and I don't have balls to go there again, even if the gap between stamp and BTC-e is $40, the risk is not worth it.... just be careful, at least you know who owns stamp and where to get them if anything goes wrong....
Yeah, I know all exchanges are risk but it's a risk I have to make, otherwise I'd still have 8 BTC worth 5k$
So you traded yourself up more than 10x your initial investment?
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Post 5345436 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
we all talk bullshit here, fight with each other and so on, and that guy on bitcoinbuilder made 1200 BTC in last 24 hours.
:jealousasfuck:
Good idea wasn't it. I need to start working on a jump to conclusions mat.
Don't think he made 1200 BTC though. Volume is 29500 give or take but that's Goxcoins. If we take the day's average it's probably 1/4th to 1/3rd BTC each. 2% of that is 147~197 BTC in fees. Not a bad day's work, obviously.
Fee is 4%, it's 2% from each side. He probably accumulates half BTC and half goxBTC.
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Post 5345468 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):
Well, I just executed arbitrage between Stamp and BTC-e. I have 1100$ more now, though most of my fiat is on BTC-e now, not on Stamp. Hopefully, Putin won't killed BTC-e owners now :
nice, I used to to trade LTC there, but it has been 4 months since my last trade there and I don't have balls to go there again, even if the gap between stamp and BTC-e is $40, the risk is not worth it.... just be careful, at least you know who owns stamp and where to get them if anything goes wrong....
Yeah, I know all exchanges are risk but it's a risk I have to make, otherwise I'd still have 8 BTC worth 5k$
So you traded yourself up more than 10x your initial investment?
Much more, around 70 fold in Bitcoin since end of March 2013. If I would turn all fiat, alts, shares etc in Bitcoins I'd collect over 500 BTC now.
It's easier to trade small amounts but I have to applaud your trading skills, this is pretty amazing.
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Post 9091612 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):
That's quite a wall they got there... 29k for sale at $300? Really?
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Post 9093514 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):
His investment just went down by $20,000,000 and this is what he has got to say?
LOL
How early adopters feel about price swings:
http://i.imgur.com/3yGgoPh.gif
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Post 9102606 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Does anyone remember
http://trading.i286.org/ or clarkmoody that was used for mtgox before it shut down?
Is there any sites like that for bitstamp? (I don't want to use bitcoinwisdom or similar)
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Post 9102695 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Not too bad, but
https://zeroblock.com is the best I have found so far.
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Post 9102952 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Not too bad either, but I don't care much about the graph, I'd like the order depth and latest trades to be main focus.
E.g right now, this is my layout at zeroblock:
I'm pretty satisfied with that, but if there are any other sites like it which looks even more like clarkmoody/trading.i286 I'd like to take a look at those.
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Post 9103012 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
I think (not sure yet) that there is a good chance that we will see double digits before we go up again (reversal).
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Post 9103052 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Not too bad either, but I don't care much about the graph, I'd like the order depth and latest trades to be main focus.
E.g right now, this is my layout at zeroblock:
I'm pretty satisfied with that, but if there are any other sites like it which looks even more like clarkmoody/trading.i286 I'd like to take a look at those.
I used to like i286 but never understood the big deal with clarkmoody.
I prefer wisdom myself but use btccharts....you can modify the layouts how you want there so I don't understand why it wouldn't fit your needs. The only other option would be coinorama, which is pretty much jam packed with info.
I just really liked the design and miss it. I agree i286 was the best one, I used clarkmoody before i286. The site for i286 is still up, but it's not connected to the bitstamp feed. I'm considering trying to dive into it and see if I can fix it myself. But maybe I can get used to zeroblock instead, it's pretty close.
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Post 10104356 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):
People buying on localbitcoins are fucking retards.
I mean, I can perfectly understand people SELLING them there (you get a premium and you launder money perfectly), but BUYING THEM there?
Are you an idiot? Why the hell would you pay a lot more for your coins if they might be stolen coins everybody is tracking in the blockchain?
I guess the most retarded combo would be: "investor" in bitcoins bought on localbitcoins and r/bitcoin enthusiast.
Like, it can't get anymore retarded than that lol
Seriously? In some places it's EXTREMELY difficult to buy bitcoins other than that. As for the tracking, there's a MILLION (known) ways to mix stolen bitcoins prior selling them (not counting unknown). Besides, localbitcoins is anonymous. Some people want to stay that way. Try buying anonymously from an exchange. Yeah; can't be done.
Not only that, some people prefer to buy bitcoin anonymously without having them tied to their bank account or scanned identity documents.
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Post 10429691 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):
Ah, thought so. Here you go
Some pretty large buys going on.
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Post 12871373 (copy this link) (by TheKoziTwo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.31h):
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