All posts made by silverfuture in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 2679498 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.09h):

lol!



2. Post 3503788 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.20h):

new ATH at bitstamp 266.0



3. Post 3655949 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 20, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.

How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount...

I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer.



4. Post 3655958 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on November 20, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
I think we're looking at it the wrong way. Maybe bitcoin isn't destined to become a currency, but something else. It's deflationary, has no consumer protection, transfers are irrevocable and no identities are tied to the addresses. How can this ever become a currency?
Bitcoin is super silver.
I like it!



5. Post 3655992 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 20, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.

How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount...

I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer.

maybe water?


A basket of water perhaps?



6. Post 3676732 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: mccorvic on November 22, 2013, 05:27:36 PM
https://blockchain.info/tx/1c12443203a48f42cdf7b1acee5b4b1c1fedc144cb909a3bf5edbffafb0cd204

Thoughts?

Tell me you wouldn't be triple checking the "send to" address before firing that puppy off  Grin



7. Post 3703892 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: Richy_T on November 25, 2013, 03:45:43 AM
It's getting like that fight from "They live".

They are all out of bubblegum.



8. Post 3737683 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Cheers and congrats everyone! Time to move out of mom's basement   Grin



9. Post 3754040 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

  Man, do these guys make awesome predictions.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=suyOUiInQwA#t=616



10. Post 3754225 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on November 28, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
  Man, do these guys make awesome predictions.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=suyOUiInQwA#t=616

Please issue Alex Jones warning when posting such links!

Did you know he uses the same shitty forum software as bitcointalk? Grin

Sorry guys. At least the video doesn't start at the beginning. Grin



11. Post 3767440 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: DaRude on November 29, 2013, 03:33:59 PM

My forecast... channel breakdown suggests a correction back to around 1090. Then probably sideways for a few days. Charts need to be a lot more flexible, anyone have better chart space let me know!



There was one that i liked a week back showing that we were entering a pterodactyl pattern

clearly, it's now a humpback giraffe pattern. sheesh.



12. Post 4139108 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on December 25, 2013, 04:31:31 PM


Just come on line to wish you all a merry Christmas!

ch000 ch000

Me too, Cheers!
 I love this place.



13. Post 4158930 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 26, 2013, 09:59:26 PM
i dont understand why would you buy bitcoin to buy drugs everyone knows bitcoin is the best drug in the world.
I'm on bitcoin right now!



14. Post 4713142 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 24, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here.

Not everyone here is primarily a speculator. Some of us are primarily Bitcoiners. It may be the Speculation sub-forum, but it is in the Bitcoin forums.

I, for one avoid gambling and have done so for almost half a century after seeing the drummer in one of my first bands lose his drum kit to the race track through compulsive gambling.

The Murphy of gambling can be nasty though. Whenever I'm forced into gambling, I seem to win. I've never bought a lottery ticket but the one I found in the back seat of a taxicab was a winner. The only race I was coerced into betting on (to not jinx my friend's horse) tripled my place bet when it lost by a nose in a photo finish, taking all my friends' win money with it.

I'm not here to speculate, per se. I'm here for the entertainment of monitoring my Bitcoin investment, and the state of Bitcoin adoption and valuation. My interest is in the evolution of open-source, decentralized, peer-to-peer networking, not in finding a vehicle for speculation. I'm more interested in Ethereum than Litecoin or Dogecoin and envision O/S P2P networks handling everything from notarization to making elections honest again.

All you speculators have fun gambling. Just count me out.



+1  Well said.  The price movements to me are just fun one way or the other, I don't try to bet on them or predict, just work with bitcoin and explore the seemingly endless possibilities of value for the whole planet.



15. Post 5273678 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 21, 2014, 03:03:45 AM
dear virtex traders,

there is very little bid depth, the ask walls are very scary, stamps is going down, sell now b4 it is too late!

SELL ME YOUR COINS!

that is all.

ftfy




16. Post 5978784 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

squeezing for all it's worth.... the question is...will i give up my stake in bitcoin?
Nope. it is worth so much more. I am the patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuLy9shJNYc
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17. Post 5978885 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on March 30, 2014, 06:02:17 AM
squeezing for all it's worth.... the question is...will i give up my stake in bitcoin?
Nope. it is worth so much more. I am the patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuLy9shJNYc
.

Buy on fear. Always. Bought as much as I could Wink

So you've been buying non stop the last few months? How much did you lose?


hundreds of thousands since the top. but I am 100% bitcoin for a long time. Since the beginning I am still up. Glad to see the point of entry is getting affordable lately for newcomers.



18. Post 6007719 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: dreamspark on March 31, 2014, 08:29:57 PM
Mini wall at $450. May be a good opportunity to buy back with no slippage for a bigger player...

...and it's gone



19. Post 6009028 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on March 31, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
They have but the dumps are looking feeble and the buyers have shown they're there, cautious but they're there.

Not bold enough to buy up the price, but enough to get in while the getting is good. Smart money doesn't buy to move up the price like crazy until they are full of whatever they are after. In this case, XBT.



20. Post 6019692 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 01, 2014, 05:12:10 PM
IRS cant hold us! Smiley

I do not live in USA but i wish this IRS thing will never happen - keeping record for one year of each smallest transaction is SICK!
They will understand it after short while!

Bitcoin for USA! Smiley

And about the price --- stabilizing Smiley


they understood that, this is on purpose to harm bitcoin and they'll harm and kill bitcoin, Ripple will take its place within few months. This is life.

individuals do not have to fill out form 1099. so for the vast majority this is inconsequential. They should be paying taxes on gains on bitcoins anyway.

Exactly, yet every time a news story that is positive, such as the Square Market news, pops up as #1 on google search, another rehashed story about the IRS guidelines pops up. All with outlandish headlines like "Bitcoin bites the dust" and "the end of Bitcoin" blah blah blah. Each article usually has some finance industry person bloviating about the doom and gloom that is pending for bitcoin. There seems to be a desperate effort to suppress Bitcoins acceptance at large. Desperate indeed. It is not even known if the IRS will stick with the guidelines and it is certainly starting to look more benign than many would have us believe. This constant recycling of old news is going to backfire, because people do catch on to bullshit eventually. Especially with a steady stream of fresh news pointing the the opposite trend that these FUD stories attempt to create.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. Smiley

I don't know which stage we are at?  And the stages may last a long time...

bitcoin has been simultaneously in all four stages as soon as it started to gain some value. It has been ignored, ridiculed and fought against... yet it keeps winning, growing, expanding, and developing. 



21. Post 6042148 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on April 02, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
You will see the end of this bear market by these following indicators.

1) The price will go lower then most expected
2) The price will remain low longer then most expected
3) The loudest and the most enthusiastic bulls will start to blame bitcoin and everyone involved for the situation and then write dramatic final speeches of them leaving.

If you will get tired of seeing indicator 3, then it's time to buy, not before.

#3 spotted in the wild!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554625.0;topicseen



22. Post 6045061 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Shit adds up at the bottom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwNDsyPstVA



23. Post 6045114 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: Guinpen on April 03, 2014, 02:05:26 AM
Here's hoping BJA either sold a little on the spike or found something to hock.

If the posted bids down to 400.01 were dumped at market, they would buy up to 490.76


I closed my margin long @ $478 and took a good pounding. My biggest loss ever. Note to self: Never hold a margin position overnight.

note to all : NEVER NEVER EVER TRADE ON MARGIN!!! Wink jmho!!!

I'll play the ignorant n00b card again... could you please explain what trading on a margin means?

In my defense, it does say "Newbie" on the left Smiley

http://www.investopedia.com/dictionary/  is a good resource.



24. Post 6045264 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

upswing to about 460 incoming over next couple of hours.



25. Post 6045370 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: KeyserSoze on April 03, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
will smokers rally around 420?



All time high!



26. Post 6045530 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: Peter R on April 03, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
If bitcoin is to become an important world currency, it must go through ups and downs like this.  If it didn't, everyone who got in early would become filthy rich.  But everyone can't become rich, so bitcoin must tug at your emotions to test your beliefs, taunting you to make a move.  It rockets to the moon, promising you wealth beyond your wildest dream.  And then it crashes lower and then lower again, shattering those fantasies you were living in your head.  

But in the end the question is simply: do you want bitcoin to succeed?  

For me it is something to fight for.  In all my life, I have never seen a technology that I feel has as much potential to right so many wrongs in the world.  It is money by the people for the people.  It empowers the individual, which empowers the community, which empowers the world.  It is bottom up money, rather than top-down, and reflects the natural order of human relationships.  It is the system that will allow us to break free of certain chains that have been holding back our species, as we evolve to a higher level of community.  

Life is about making decisions.  We are free people and can do as we choose by accepting the consequences.  At some point, each of us will be old and at the end of our lives.  We will remember the battles we fought and won with pleasure, and those we lost with pride.  Our regrets will instead be of the battles we were too afraid to fight.  We will look back and say, how could I have been worried about loosing (what you'll later perceive as an inconsequential) $25,000 bucks when what was at play was the evolution of money itself.    

I decided a year ago to commit my time over the next several years to working on bitcoin.  I will continue to do so as long as transactions are added to the unforgeable global ledger know as the blockchain.  I will work to advance the technology, use it at every opportunity, favour hiring employees who accept it, and gently promote it across my sphere of influence.  

I believe I am not alone.  



You aren't alone!  



27. Post 6046149 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: mah87 on April 03, 2014, 02:59:27 AM
upswing to about 460 incoming over next couple of hours.

I rather bet on a nice upswing to 350

But would you put any money on it? 

I bet that there would be a lot of takers to bet you that we will see $460 before we see $350? 

You would NOT take such a bet b/c you do NOT even believe it. 

Well it's been 6weeeks I'm saying we're going to 400$ and I hear "blablabal oyu troll OMG such troll ignoreignore etc.."

Well here we are so I'll wait and buy at 350 Smiley
So far my prediction is closer. I give it a few more hours before 455-460 on stamp and it'll hodl there in that range for a bit. I think we've seen the last of the downward pressure for 12-24hrs.



28. Post 6064248 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

420 will be tested within 12hrs. It might be briefly breached but 420 is very strong resistance and will HODL!

Brace yourselves!



29. Post 6064403 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: windjc on April 04, 2014, 05:55:10 AM
Weird.

I was expecting that Huobi's note "no problem with banks" would cause a price surge today.

Was it all "spent" on yesterday's surge, that lifted the price from ~2500 CNY to ~2650?


Jorgi,

Its simple. This is what a bear market looks like. Bad news sell, good news nothing.

One day, when it flips again, you will see the opposite.

But for the most part "news" just gives the market an excuse to go where it wants to.


So true. The trick (and the hard part for many) is knowing which market you are in at any given time.



30. Post 6064504 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

The current bears are not real bears... they are former bulls, perma bears, uber bears and "end of the world-ers" . It's the real bears with all that fiat, ready to buy once they get the signals. The real bears sodl long ago.



31. Post 6065863 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/04/02/bitcoin-price-to-1-million/

 Grin



32. Post 6078520 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: mooncake on April 05, 2014, 03:18:15 AM
Light speed? 

Something faster than rocket but slower than light.




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34. Post 6165867 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmiCtBLu9-E



35. Post 6172585 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: dogechode on April 11, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
what is the big deal about 4/20?? Other than that a lot of people will be getting stoned?

You need more than that???  TO THE MOON!



36. Post 6199737 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: fonzie on April 13, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Invisible buy wall on Finex

500 BTC sell @ 0.410

EDIT 620 BTC



37. Post 6221780 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

YOU CAN'T KILL THE BITCOIN



38. Post 6222895 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: aminorex on April 15, 2014, 12:06:52 AM

Don't have to.  It's obviously suicidally seeking an undead existence:  The concentration of mining means concentration of consensus, which means centralized currency, centralized planning and control, which means we're a dead man walking; unless there's dramatic action taken, it won't be long before bitcoin is a zombie, an unnatural hollow shell of its former self.  Bitcoin as a currency will continue to function, but the bitcoin idea, the ghost in its machine, will no longer be attached to the currency.  It's also not clear how even dramatic action is capable of preventing this outcome.  Moving mining to sidechains with smaller faster block rewards is the best I can come up with, and it's not at all clear that's enough, nor even that the will to do that exists.

There's no particular reason to think this condition will affect price in the near term, however.




What concentration? I really don't see it. The vast majority of hashrate is individual miners in pools and they can switch pools whenever they feel like it. The industrialization of mining will not mean any further centralization other than possible near misses at certain times throughout the early adoption cycle. Asicminer had 30% plus of the hashrate briefly but lost that status and even with Gen 3 will likely not come close to that again with a projected 1600Ph/s



39. Post 6239249 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: TERA on April 15, 2014, 09:19:15 AM
You should hold off on the champagne until Huobi breaks 3200






40. Post 6258676 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

bear trap incoming!!!



41. Post 6259052 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 17, 2014, 01:54:38 AM


yes bear trap, could be a good one.

Looking at the 2y log chart on stamp there are almost identical features in the price movements between Apr13 bubble top to late June and ATH 'til today. The longer view may hold some clues but also may obscure the finer details of price movements. Pretty cool though.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wy1693hljko9qct/june2013log.png



42. Post 6259227 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 17, 2014, 02:42:50 AM

Looking at the 2y log chart on stamp there are almost identical features in the price movements between Apr13 bubble top to late June and ATH 'til today. The longer view may hold some clues but also may obscure the finer details of price movements. Pretty cool though.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wy1693hljko9qct/june2013log.png

Yeah, I see. it's really uncanny..... are you an EW analyst? this market has been a pleasure to trade.

No... far from it, but I'm interested in learning more. I'm a very early adopter who is mostly holding cold storage but without reason to panic sell even in deep, sustained drops. Happy trading!



43. Post 6259434 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 17, 2014, 02:59:57 AM

Looking at the 2y log chart on stamp there are almost identical features in the price movements between Apr13 bubble top to late June and ATH 'til today. The longer view may hold some clues but also may obscure the finer details of price movements. Pretty cool though.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wy1693hljko9qct/june2013log.png

Yeah, I see. it's really uncanny..... are you an EW analyst? this market has been a pleasure to trade.

No... far from it, but I'm interested in learning more. I'm a very early adopter who is mostly holding cold storage but without reason to panic sell even in deep, sustained drops. Happy trading!

yeah the loot to be had by holding is fantastic. I always hold 80%, and day trade with 20% on leverage. managed to almost double my position so far.
when learning about EW or TA, best to remember that they all have fundamental motives. it's pretty ambiguous otherwise.

That is a fantastic record so far. Congrats. My experience with bitcoin has been one of getting a (sometimes costly) education, but wouldn't change it for the world..



44. Post 6259816 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: Richy_T on April 17, 2014, 04:00:35 AM
How much fiat is left and how far can it take us?

Why, 238,900 miles, of course.

Next stop... fiat will take us somewhere between  56 million kilometers and 401 million kilometers. Fiat is unlimited. Welcome to scarcity.



45. Post 6260458 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: niothor on April 17, 2014, 05:12:09 AM
You can stretch them again , use a different time period , change the colors , but no way you can get those too match.

I really don;t understand why people have this need of matching current events with previous ones in order to "see' the future.



Looking at all time log charts on MtGox and also last 2 year log charts on Bitstamp. You don't see a pattern there? You don't see how the past may indicate the future? Really?




46. Post 6274751 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 18, 2014, 12:58:27 AM
My money finally cleared, I'm curious to know what you guys would do at this moment if you were in my shoes.


Buy BTC now, don't take any advice from this forum, don't bother trying to draw lines on charts, don't day trade, don't react if the price swings rapidly in either direction, return in a couple of years from now to find yourself very well off.

I think that's pretty sound advice  Cheesy
seriously though.

confirmed Cheesy



47. Post 6276642 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 18, 2014, 04:54:20 AM
Second: I do NOT know what you mean by Exemplary lesson.
Oh! Wel, well, well...  Grin

It is decided, then.

In order to avoid collateral damage to innocent readers, I will deliver the Exemplary Lesson to @JayJuanGee by private message.  If he never shows up again in this forum, you will all know why.  If he survives (and I sincerely hope that he will), perhaps he will recover enough to tell you all how bad it was.  In either case, all the other sinners out there will have a chance to repent.


oh plz, come on, cut the crap dude.

I think HDBuck is ignoring me, but YES, it does seem pretty immature for a supposed professor to be engaging in communications that seem like veiled threats.

"Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success"  Yet almost exclusively posts in the wall observer thread. Seems legit. Why even bother talking to this person? I have yet to glean one useful bit of information from even one of his posts.  



48. Post 6277253 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: av123 on April 18, 2014, 05:24:07 AM
Dude I've made a killing from his Chinese slumber posts.
Really?  Shocked

I did not intend them as trading advice, thye are just an idea that I have been testing and do not know whether it is worth anything.  I m glad (and relieved) that they worked for you.

Actually I was being facetious. I don't trust my trading skills enough at this point in time.

lol!



49. Post 6277271 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 18, 2014, 05:25:32 AM
Second: I do NOT know what you mean by Exemplary lesson.
Oh! Wel, well, well...  Grin

It is decided, then.

In order to avoid collateral damage to innocent readers, I will deliver the Exemplary Lesson to @JayJuanGee by private message.  If he never shows up again in this forum, you will all know why.  If he survives (and I sincerely hope that he will), perhaps he will recover enough to tell you all how bad it was.  In either case, all the other sinners out there will have a chance to repent.


oh plz, come on, cut the crap dude.

I think HDBuck is ignoring me, but YES, it does seem pretty immature for a supposed professor to be engaging in communications that seem like veiled threats.

"Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success"  Yet almost exclusively posts in the wall observer thread. Seems legit. Why even bother talking to this person? I have yet to glean one useful bit of information from even one of his posts.  

You may be correct - that engaging with him is a big waste of time.

I have been having a few battles with him regarding the contents of his posts, yet there were a few posts of his that caused me to consider matters a little bit differently (in other words I got some value out of them).  And, also, I had thought that it may be helpful to point out the deceptive aspects of the content of some of his posts, but that may be a big waste of time, too.

My dilemma is that I hate for some obvious misleading to go unchecked - even though it seems about half the posts in this thread are trolls or trollish in nature.


Don't worry , bitcoin will do what it is going to do with or without Jorge. Bitcoin doesn't give a shit.



50. Post 6277532 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 18, 2014, 06:21:02 AM



dont wanna jump the gun, but after a stagnant day, some bidding is kicking off this reading, gutsy buying near 480 is paying off. Hopefully wave V takes us to 580-600 in the coming days.

Not only buy zone, but most likely the last time you will get coins for this low price.




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52. Post 6331941 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 22, 2014, 03:06:35 AM
we're going down

is that so??

dump failure!



53. Post 6333318 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

I see very little downside for the price for the next two months with a possible slight and brief exception. We (most likely IMO) are going sideways and up... get ready for rocket moon bull trains on mars by end of June at the latest.

People start to buy in tepidly at first and gain confidence as time goes on and price goes sideways and slightly up for a while. Soon, bad news doesn't seem to affect price at all and any good news seemingly shoots the price up with ease.



54. Post 6341125 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: Nightowlace on April 22, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
I think we are going to break out of this in a massive downtrend.

keep in mind I am always wrong when it comes to this and this is just a sad attempt to get the bitcoin powers that be to prove me wrong again Smiley [\size]

Yup, I see 494, maybe 493 on bitstamp's horizon.



55. Post 6389635 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

So here is your last chance to get coins for <500.00

You will never see bitcoin prices much lower than this again. It might go slightly lower and may even retest the last low at around 350.00 but this is buy zone if you haven't already. You can quote me on this and thank me later when we are at 10,000 plus in a few short months. China is only an excuse and mars can easily be reached without her.  Don't believe the hype.



56. Post 6390162 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 25, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
We'll first off it's not even guaranteed that the world will adopt any form of crypto but if they do it might be something that is nothing like any of the current 'coins'. It might be non-blockchain-based and use some other technology that we can't even imagine currently.

I can imagine two radical alternatives: cryptocurrencies issued and managed by (1) large private multinational companies or consortia (banks, insurance companies, retailers, google, facebook, ...)  or (2) national governments (USAcoin, BitEuro, RussiaCoin, etc.).

These cryptos would retain the idea of offline generation of address/key pairs, but junk all the other "features" of bitcoin (anonymity, decentralized management, independence from gov & banks, irrevocability, mining, limited number, deflation, ...).  Libertarians would hate them (and would hate (1) too), but for most consumers and retailers they may be even better than bitcoin.

a centralised crypto is not an alternative to a decentralised crypto. this is what makes bitcoin revolutuionary. centralised cryptos are nothing new. the world does need a decentralised crypto. we have no superior alternative yet to bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-cBoLBSxhw



57. Post 6391753 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: TERA on April 25, 2014, 02:28:00 PM


OK, now that is ridick  Grin



58. Post 6430258 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

close but 435.00 has not been crossed yet.



59. Post 6430329 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Ok there we go  Grin



60. Post 6432219 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY

 Bitcoin vs. Political Power: The Cryptocurrency Revolution - Stefan Molyneux at TNW Conference



61. Post 6441935 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Relax, we're headed up now.



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63. Post 6464617 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on April 29, 2014, 10:57:56 PM


Nice t/a! Highly suggestive of a moon shot!



64. Post 6477866 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Quote from: xulescu on April 30, 2014, 04:37:49 PM
pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:



http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/controlled-chaos-european-cities-do-away-with-traffic-signs-a-448747.html

Everyone who bashed this GIF with no second thought or research proved they are completely clueless in life.

Removing all traffic laws and signs (except a few like 50 km/h speed limit in towns) made traffic more fluent, safer and faster on average.
The Autobahns have significantly fewer accidents NORMALIZED for traffic volume than many other highways.
This movement will most likely become more widespread.

It goes with the Clarkson quote with spikes in the steering wheel and a few other ideas from behavioural economics:
1. People ignore >70% of traffic signs, and much more in the US where the sign spam is completely out of control.
2. People read recommendations as mandatory
    a. Lacking speed limits, most people drive at their comfort speed. Speed LIMITS are by definition above the comfort zone of most people; otherwise they are inefficiently low. With speed limits, people drive at speed limits or above (usually) even if that is no longer comfortable for them (i.e. how tired they are).
    b. When banks recommend a MAXIMUM of ~34% monthly income to go to house mortgage, the vast majority of people take that as default and end up over-extending.

In short, if you take the signs away, people drive more carefully and organically, minding their surroundings. This is completely foreign to US drivers due to feelings of entitlement and "being in the right" no matter what the local traffic conditions are. That's also one of the main causes for how many accidents there are on the US highways (mostly, in merging and lane changing).

In my home city, in my mostly lawless-driving EU country, people routinely drive at 100+ km/h during the night in cities, even if the speed limit is the classic 50. Almost all accidents happen when drivers were DUI, racing or irresponsible local-mafia brats.

Y'all really need to get your head out of the "we need to control you or you would kill eachother" arsehole. I though "antifragile" was trending?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1533248/Is-this-the-end-of-the-road-for-traffic-lights.html

http://www.impactlab.net/2010/10/19/turning-traffic-lights-off-improves-flow-and-safety/



65. Post 6561786 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

If you think the most passionate supporters of bitcoin are doing so because of cultist behavior.. you are a basic bitch.



66. Post 6562032 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: octaft on May 05, 2014, 08:54:59 PM
If you think the most passionate supporters of bitcoin are doing so because of cultist behavior.. you are a basic bitch.

If you're going to go with the cult propaganda, at least use the one with the more attractive chick. Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8mWG6HlmU




67. Post 6565862 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: aminorex on May 06, 2014, 02:18:26 AM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/23/operation-choke-point-payday-lenders-issa-banks
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/04/16/operation-choke-point-the-battle-over-financial-data-between-the-government-and-banks/

The U.S government appears to be making a hard-sell case for Bitcoin.


Now if only there was some way to be in charge of your own finances without having to ask permission. Hmmn

Makes  this seem more plausible



68. Post 6566462 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: xulescu on May 06, 2014, 03:02:21 AM

Smells almost like the US is preparing to abandon the HMS Petrodollar.

I doubt if that is the actual intent behind these actions but it's likely to hasten the need for abandonment by everyone else. C'est la vie.



69. Post 6567158 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on May 06, 2014, 04:23:44 AM
I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...



One does not simply blast off or choo choo mf without gathering fuel and laying some track.



70. Post 6567318 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: silverfuture on May 06, 2014, 04:51:00 AM
I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...



One does not simply blast off or choo choo mf without gathering fuel and laying some track.

Indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE8nmKpmXY

no wonder its been slow.. re laying tracks isn't a fast process lol

[/quote]

..or safe in some instances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o87MgkGAqeU



71. Post 6660663 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Within a few days we'll be over 520.00  New highs on the mid term horizon.



72. Post 6664045 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: alexanderrrr on May 11, 2014, 12:37:38 AM
Within a few days we'll be over 520.00  New highs on the mid term horizon.

PLEASE tell why you think so before even throwing out a number like that. Just as much as "5k next year" is stupid.

It's just my best guess. Call it intuition. It is just a stupid prediction based on pattern recognition and no where near as sophisticated as most of the TA guys here (although likely just as accurate). Don't trade based on my predictions please.



73. Post 6664769 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: YogoH on May 11, 2014, 05:10:37 AM
Not enough trains for a time like this...

Bitpay has huge announcement tomorrow, right after a large rally that breaks us out of the descending triangle (could be natural support, could be insider knowledge).

EITHER WAY, ALL ABOARD!!

No trains yet, we aren't ready for another month and a half.  Get 'em loaded up though.



74. Post 6733581 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Ebay is big news. How many other retailers will jump on board after that endorsement?. That combined with the wave of atms, new exchanges, investment funds, investment into bitcoin business, etc. will make a big wave soon. It's only a matter of time.   



75. Post 6733964 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: seleme on May 14, 2014, 11:40:31 PM
Ebay is big news. How many other retailers will jump on board after that endorsement?. That combined with the wave of atms, new exchanges, investment funds, investment into bitcoin business, etc. will make a big wave soon. It's only a matter of time.   

Where's the news here? He said fuck all new from what he said year ago.

Last year he was kinda thinkin bout it, this year:

 "When asked by a shareholder about bitcoin’s potential role in global trade, Donahoe responded by saying that the digital currency “will play a very important role in the future”, eCommerce Bytes reports.

While Donahoe said he couldn’t envision exactly how bitcoin could become a more mainstream technology, he suggested that eBay is considering direct involvement with the digital currency, saying:

    “Exactly how that plays out, and how we can best take advantage of it and enable it with PayPal, that’s something we’re actively considering. It’s on our radar screen.”"  -Quoted from Coindesk article.




76. Post 6788218 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 17, 2014, 10:06:25 PM
I suspect that there are Chinese who open an account at Huobi just for the pleasure of moving orders up and down the book, while carefully avoiding being caught by an actual trade.

Crazy, sounds kind of like opening a btctalk account to participate in a wall observer thread while carefully avoiding to actually make any trades.



77. Post 6806649 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

The biggest FUD of all time for wall observers. The price of bitcoin will remain flat.  Shocked



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79. Post 6841825 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: hdbuck on May 20, 2014, 07:55:21 PM
waaaaaa  Shocked

Quote
The service allows consumers to pay in bitcoin from any mobile device with SMS functionality via a ‘gateway’ in the user’s country of origin.

Quote
Anyone wanting a 37Coins wallet can set one up at the company’s website, but, for people lacking web access and/or smartphone, a hosted wallet is automatically created once a small amount of bitcoin is sent to their cellphone number.

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The service acts virally and once, say, Alice has bitcoin in her new wallet, she can send funds on to Bob – thus creating a wallet for him, and so on.

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The reason 37Coins sees SMS as the best way to reach the most people, is that almost everyone now has access to a cellphone. According to the International Telecommunications Union, cellphone penetration will reach 95.5% globally by the end of 2014 – far higher than the roughly 40% of people using the Internet globally.

Quote
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-> http://www.coindesk.com/37coins-plans-worldwide-bitcoin-access-sms-based-wallet/






80. Post 6893575 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-22/bitcoin-exchange-guarantees-clients-crime-free-trade-in-denmark.html



81. Post 6896198 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

http://www.businessinsider.com/five-main-reasons-bitcoin-is-beginning-to-flourish-as-a-payment-technology-2014-5



82. Post 6960550 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on May 27, 2014, 12:56:43 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/node/488930

Willy on zerohedge. How long before mainstream news reports the story?

Already happened.  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bots-were-responsible-bitcoin-stratospheric-142709543.html

It isn't going to have the effect you were hoping for though...



83. Post 7004864 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on May 29, 2014, 01:40:37 AM
bids are doing the tsunami, blast off looks imminent

cant wait to give all my friends 10bits with the new FB app coming out soon.


that's less than $0.007 CAD Roll Eyes

He's very very generous Wink

That's 35.00 when considering all 5000 friends.



84. Post 7027741 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 30, 2014, 03:06:33 AM
In 115 weeks [the block reward] becomes only 14,000 BTC per week.  A few years later it's 7,000 per week.  I think you understand the maths here. 
I confess that my math has not got there yet (sincerely). What will happen then? Will the miners start charging fees to make up for the difference?  Or is the price of bitcoin expected to double at that moment?  Or none of the above?  Or both of the above?


With questions like that, I'd recommend getting out of the wall observer thread and start taking an academic interest in bitcoin.



85. Post 7037098 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: magicmexican on May 30, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
..

hahahahhahahaaha

Best laugh i've had in days. Legit. :----D

Great stuff!



86. Post 7139805 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 05, 2014, 03:04:58 AM
Why is anyone still focusing on China? Do they contribute anything to Bitcoin development or adoption?
Because they still define the price, mostly.

Arbitrage trading tends to equalize prices among all exchanges, generally by copying the price from high-liquidity exchanges to low liquidity ones (counting as "liquidity" not only the order book but also how quickly the traders react, I guess.) That effectively means copying the price from the main Chinese exchanges (OKCoin, Huobi, BTC-China, and several others that are not listed by popular chart sites) to those in the "West" (Bitstamp, BTC-e, etc.) 

I would say that this rally, in particular, was started and is being driven by the Chinese traders.  The big price jumps (the positive ones, at least) seem to have started in China a little before they start in the West. (It hard to tell for sure, the difference is less than a minute; which is expected, because arbitrage robots must be quick or they will lose the opportunities to competitors).


None of that is supported by this recent study.  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1406.0268v1.pdf



87. Post 7328113 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

Despite what some said before this is not old news, it is likely to have a significant effect toward adoption levels.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iphone-no-longer-barrier-bitcoin-193758174.html

Disclosure: At the time of this writing David Smith has a long bitcoin position Cheesy



88. Post 7354999 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

Quote from: aminorex on June 17, 2014, 03:22:55 AM
Why do people keep dumping in a market that clearly wants to go up?

Don't anthropomorphize the market -- it hates that.


I can understand why, being a monkey and all.



89. Post 7393114 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):

How to Disincentivize Large Bitcoin Mining Pools

http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/06/18/how-to-disincentivize-large-bitcoin-mining-pools/



90. Post 7762624 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: byronbb on July 10, 2014, 03:36:05 AM
Reminds me of the awful times in the realms of 450.
Reminds me of the awful times in the realms of $10.

The worst was the retrace from the then incredible ATH of $32, all the way in slow agony to $2.

Yup, this is nothing. Granted, mining 2 BTC per day with 2 Gh/s was kinda fun.



91. Post 8121242 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: kireinaha on July 31, 2014, 03:49:28 PM
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes the price rises from yesterday (still lower than a couple days ago) and everyone is in moon mode again. This place cracks me up.

Volatility gets people excited. It's excitement that draws most people to the whole bitcoin thing. Even people like Jorge can't look away.



92. Post 8230699 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: fonzie on August 07, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
BTC-E almost above Huobi!  Cheesy

Edit: maybe just due to people switching from LTC to BTC

Good night little chicken!

What's going on with litecoin? HAVE YOU TROLLED THEM?!

I sadly lost the 2FA for my BTC-e LTC troll account named "LTCvictim"
Therefore i am not guilty.

Oh if LTC should die and all that money goes back into BTC we could probably reach a new ATH, even without the COIN ETF!
Die chicken die!

Good point. Once people find out en masse that altcoins are all shit and you can't go back to the super early adopter phase of bitcoin there will be a large move back to btc.  The ones who realise it first will profit the most. 



93. Post 8379828 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

meteoric rise is imminent Cheesy



94. Post 8390064 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 17, 2014, 12:49:36 AM
Time is linear, BTC price recoveries are not

3

They are log



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96. Post 8391654 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 17, 2014, 03:33:02 AM
bids pilling up at the front line again

fuck this is fast!

Maybe someone just finished up their overnighter big project preliminary report and we have some insider trading pending big news Monday.

Maybe.

FOR SURE
if not this week next week.
so much is going on, so many poeple working so hard, price has not reflected this...
the price is wrong!

BUY!



97. Post 8474965 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):

Quote from: grappa_barricata on August 21, 2014, 08:30:12 PM

Just a few drunk beartards. Relax.

[image of dead bear follow]


Can you please stop posting these pictures of dead animals? I mean, you can probably find something more funny no? Don't kill my mojo!!!!

Pretty sure that bear is just sleeping. No metaphor intended.



98. Post 8663013 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: Taras on September 04, 2014, 12:50:37 AM
i need a chill pill or something.

*all mess up / pissed off*

my mother inlaw, dropped off her dog here ( what a bitch -_- ), and my wife thinks we can keep it.

so mad.

until next time.
We're here for you, adam

 

At over a half a pound, that'd be a tough pill to swallow without crushing it and mixing with some strawberry jam or honey. 

BUY BUY BUY!!!



99. Post 8679289 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: Taras on September 05, 2014, 12:08:13 AM

Maybe it'd be best on a pizza.


I can have it delivered for 10,000 btc   Shocked



100. Post 8684994 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: empowering on September 05, 2014, 11:36:52 AM
For anyone that has not seen the video posted by Jorge, of Jorge playing with his balls please view here
http://youtu.be/rFEGFEGMDBc

 Grin



There is no evidence that Jorge was there or even has balls. I'm skeptical.



101. Post 9095490 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

It would be absolutely hilarious to see that wall get bought up in one fell swoop.



102. Post 9095503 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: AmazonStuff on October 05, 2014, 08:56:17 PM
What is the probability that this Bitstamp ask wall is made out of Gox stolen coins?

It wouldn't be a smart move on the part of the thief.



103. Post 9180333 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: inca on October 12, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Anyone order lamb chops?

Yes, that is on the menu tonight with beet greens and a nice spaghetti squash.



104. Post 9201206 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 14, 2014, 06:33:24 PM
...
Bit stamp is currently at 410. Ssh.

408, but who's counting?  Fiat's worthless Cool
 

Fiat's not worthless, but it is worth less considering it's tanked against the Bitcoin for 5+ years now. The greater trend since inception (if we want to talk about timelines) is logarithmic up. Bitcoin is following a pattern like every other greater trend that happened to catch on to mainstream acceptance. A smaller group of hardcore enthusiasts that seem like cultists to everyone else because of the passion they exhibit are a crucial feature that precedes every trend I have ever seen or been a part of. Serial detractors are every bit as obsessed with bitcoin as the supporters are and spend large amounts of time churning through the forums. Critics and skeptics serve a necessary purpose to help build it so it works better or to head off unforeseen potential problems.  Hyperbitcoinization is well under way.




105. Post 9223264 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):

beartrap=confirmed



106. Post 9223580 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):

The real value of bitcoin



107. Post 9224109 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 16, 2014, 03:23:31 PM

I would describe that as an overview of bitcoin and the blockchain.





It only bears repeating because most people still don't get it. They are too focused on short term price action and miss the big picture.



108. Post 9250764 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

"We must send out a clear message: if you troll you risk being behind bars for two years."

 Shocked

 



109. Post 9255080 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):



It's a slow train but we can just call it rocket anyway Cheesy



110. Post 9255414 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: jonoiv on October 19, 2014, 03:55:30 PM

Don't dis the Rocket :p

Nevar! We're just taking the scenic route Cheesy



111. Post 9264825 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Scanning the MSM for the past 24hrs.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-exchange-launched-interest-rises-130000229.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitnet-technologies-bitcoin-payment-provider-120000978.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mimetic-markets-launches-innovative-turnkey-123000255.html



112. Post 9267202 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

No one seems willing to dump to cause price drop as all recent attempts have been denied with strong support. Then again, the needed spark of a mini whale buy doesn't seem to be happening either.  Sideways and slightly up on low volume we go 'till someone bites the bits.



113. Post 9268034 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

"First Global Credit Customer Service Ltd., the UK based service division of the company, announced today that they have signed an agreement to work with London based financial industry expert DATAFORT to manage business continuity services for the company. First Global Credit, which allows people to use their Bitcoins as collateral to invest in mainstream stocks and stock markets, has done this as part of an ongoing plan to improve the level of service and security they provide their customers"

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/10/prweb12260207.htm



114. Post 9268177 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: Raystonn on October 20, 2014, 06:57:49 PM
"First Global Credit Customer Service Ltd., the UK based service division of the company, announced today that they have signed an agreement to work with London based financial industry expert DATAFORT to manage business continuity services for the company. First Global Credit, which allows people to use their Bitcoins as collateral to invest in mainstream stocks and stock markets, has done this as part of an ongoing plan to improve the level of service and security they provide their customers"

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/10/prweb12260207.htm

lol bitcoin as collateral? if we keep the private keys.. how are they suppose to get them? and please dont tell me just because we signed some shitty piece of paper. XD

Either they keep them, or it's multi-sig where keys are needed from both parties to move the coins.


Either way it's a way to hold your bitcoins while you risk that value on wall street. Oh great. Mind you, there will be lots of folks happy to do it.  



115. Post 9277292 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

"Federal officials warned companies Monday that hackers have stolen more than 500 million financial records over the past 12 months, essentially breaking into banks without ever entering a building."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/20/secret-service-fbi-hack-cybersecuurity/17615029/



116. Post 9277516 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

400$ incoming!



117. Post 9291930 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Number one reason price is floating sideways and no one is ready for choo? Uncertainty over regulation in the US. There is uncertainty right now because of bitlicense and once that uncertainty is solved there will be a bigger rush to claim a piece of the blockchain for the larger players. Even if that news is largely perceived as negative, at least it will be settled and that will provide confidence. There is a critical mass of adoption eventually where it won't really matter and centralized regulation will be impossible. Until we get there, this is the way it needs to play out.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelbobelian/2014/10/21/will-us-regulations-threaten-americas-technological-edge-in-virtual-currencies/

On second thought. Maybe it is just son of a bitch dumpers and traders manipulating everything. All the damn time!  Tongue



118. Post 9306114 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 23, 2014, 06:55:29 PM
meh... so trolling the troll is a step too far ?  nahhhh methinks not, they (trolls)  have got to have some use right?  
...

It's not the trolling, empowering.  It's your grade school "ur mom" humor and your trying to get in my pants after I made my disinterest perfectly clear...

Nope, it's the trolling.



119. Post 9306218 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: empowering on October 23, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
meh... so trolling the troll is a step too far ?  nahhhh methinks not, they (trolls)  have got to have some use right?  
...

It's not the trolling, empowering.  It's your grade school "ur mom" humor and your trying to get in my pants after I made my disinterest perfectly clear...

Nope, it's the trolling.

I sincerely apologise for the trolling  the troll (but I will continue to troll nlC from time to time)  I am not usually a total troll... I am a little miffed that NLC has been given a free reign to troll away, all very well ignoring the poor little dear, but that does not seem to cut the mustard when the brat keeps trolling and trolling and trolling and trolling, week after week after week after week with the same ol tired shyte.



I meant that it was the trolling that NLC was having a hard time with. I don't have any problem with you trolling NLC whatsoever.



120. Post 9315289 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

If you aren't anarcho-capitalist (free market), you are a socialist. There is no third choice.



121. Post 9317239 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Looks like the word bitcoin is now in the dictionary, along with a few other new words. Bullish?  Grin http://www.mtv.com/news/1973846/adorkable-dictionary/



122. Post 9317326 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: BBmmBB on October 24, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
Looks like the word bitcoin is now in the dictionary, along with a few other new words. Bullish?  Grin http://www.mtv.com/news/1973846/adorkable-dictionary/


wot bout "shitcoin" ?  thats should be in there !!!!  Cheesy

Why not? Did you see some of the words they let in these days?  Grin



123. Post 9317390 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on October 24, 2014, 05:52:14 PM
Looks like the words "embiggen" and "cromulent" are in the dictionary, along with a few other new words. Bullish?  Grin http://www.mtv.com/news/1973846/adorkable-dictionary/

mebby...


Thanks, you're so adorkable.



124. Post 9358226 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

" Indeed, you all will have options to enter the cryptocurrency sector via illegitimate ways – much like you download a movie via torrent, rather than buying an original DVD. Regulations will only open an options for you to remain on the safer side. It is up to which way you prefer."

http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/fincens-new-bitcoin-guidelines-actually-good-news-48297

There you have it. Both options will still be available.




125. Post 9358911 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

Quote from: TURNTUP on October 28, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
" Indeed, you all will have options to enter the cryptocurrency sector via illegitimate ways – much like you download a movie via torrent, rather than buying an original DVD. Regulations will only open an options for you to remain on the safer side. It is up to which way you prefer."

http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/fincens-new-bitcoin-guidelines-actually-good-news-48297

There you have it. Both options will still be available.





original bitcoiners will always tend to choose : : x : : > no taxes+no regulation !  :-)

Most likely, but options are good. I know people who used to download movies but since netflix came along have just gone that way due to ease of use and low costs.



126. Post 9429347 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 04, 2014, 12:30:37 AM
For a guy using shrooms, you are really impatient. It is all part of the game.

Again, i don't use drugs. 

Shrooms aren't drugs. Shrooms are herbs or vegetables.

Heroin, tylenol, crystal meth, prozac, crack cocaine, etc are drugs.

Yeah whatever. I'm not here to discuss what drugs is.
I don't use mushrooms.

Maybe you should try some shrooms then? Might mellow you out Cheesy



127. Post 9441841 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

nobody gives a fuck about ripple, all the cool kids have murraycoin now Roll Eyes
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/29/bill-murray-bitcoin-changes-face-of-digital-curran/


Remember that Kenny Rogers song?
"you gotta know when to hodl 'em,
know when to fodl 'em,
know when to walk away,
know when to run.
You never count your bitcoins,
when you're sitting at the table
There'll be time enough for counting,
when the bubble's done.




128. Post 9584344 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.33h):

"From a technical perspective, too, a long position offers a better chance of success."

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/two-ways-to-play-a-potential-breakout-in-btcusd-cm414933



129. Post 9584557 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.33h):

Quote from: fonzie on November 18, 2014, 07:43:57 PM
"From a technical perspective, too, a long position offers a better chance of success."

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/two-ways-to-play-a-potential-breakout-in-btcusd-cm414933

"As I write, Bitcoin against the U.S. Dollar (BTC/USD) is poised at levels that could decide the direction of the currency pair for the next few weeks, maybe even longer."





NEXT 24H ARE CRITICAL AS FUCK. CONFIRMED BY WALL STREET!
   Shocked


 Cheesy



130. Post 9597391 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.33h):

B/bitcoin has excelled to this point (market cap) with nothing but resistance from the banks, media, liberal economists, and trolls. It also continues to absolutely dominate all of it's competition in altcoins by a long shot. If you search the keyword "bitcoin" for recent news.. you get lots of hits, search "ripple" and it's crickets chirping time.  Bitcoin is king of crypto and I expect it will remain so. That doesn't mean there isn't some room for others for a little while.  

"Back suggested that developers should keep in mind that competing systems will need to replicate bitcoin's network effect, something he said would be a challenge to any project seeking to replicate aspects of what bitcoin's technology can provide.

"Once something takes hold and gets going, it makes more sense to focus on and build around and on top of that, and we feel that sidechains are the best way to do that," he said.   "


As far as the wall observing goes, I'm bullish as fuck with a long term focus.



131. Post 9608084 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.33h):

What we need now is a bounce off 350 and a push to above 450 by monday Cheesy



132. Post 9627112 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Gentlemen!?.



133. Post 9630561 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Quote from: Pierre11 on November 23, 2014, 03:04:04 PM
Time to go below 10k again  Embarrassed

What if 10,000 held and we had stability?



134. Post 9630723 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Strange activity on the walls and in the thread. Unexplainable



135. Post 9630801 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Quote from: janos666 on November 23, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Strange activity on the walls and in the thread. Unexplainable

It's more important to be on page 10k than managing your wealth, is it not? Tongue

Well, what has longer term benefits?



136. Post 9631614 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Quote from: noobtrader on November 23, 2014, 04:37:14 PM
nice try, try harder... tehehehehehe

What are you talking about?

you are trying to be on 10K pages and... the pages are deflanationary   Grin

What we need is a blockchain for the wall observer thread. It could be 51% attacked and posts could be deleted but it would be expensive in hash power.



137. Post 9657466 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 26, 2014, 02:15:10 AM
I own a beanie baby

I'm definitely getting one, just to be able to do what you just did--tell people I own one.
Awesome conversation starter.  And stopper.  Every marketer who calls will learn about my Beanies!

*post pics?

It'll look really groovy next to the little pony collection.



138. Post 9657578 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 26, 2014, 02:28:09 AM
I own a beanie baby

I'm definitely getting one, just to be able to do what you just did--tell people I own one.
Awesome conversation starter.  And stopper.  Every marketer who calls will learn about my Beanies!

*post pics?

It'll look really groovy next to the little pony collection.

And odd thing to bring up, but yeah, I suppose...

Speaking of odd things to bring up, why are we you talking about beanie babies again?



139. Post 9657672 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on November 26, 2014, 02:44:54 AM


Speaking of odd things to bring up, why are we you talking about beanie babies again?

Because the parrallels with Bitcoin are amazing.  Down to artificial scarcity being used as a marketing gimmick.  From wikip:

"The company's strategy of deliberate scarcity, producing each new design in limited quantity, restricting individual store shipments to limited numbers of each design and regularly retiring designs, created a huge secondary market for the toys and increased their popularity and value as a collectible."

That's where Satoshi got his inspiration!



You're going off the rails on a crazy train. Get out now while you can.



140. Post 9657674 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on November 26, 2014, 02:51:20 AM
We're in the superstitious zone. 300 EU is holding until CNY goes to 2300. Then pushing to 400 USD. The next Rule of Thirds at 430 to 460 should start soon if Black Friday starts a rally.

But we all know in reality it just ends with people dumping.

Until it doesn't.



141. Post 9665397 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: David M on November 26, 2014, 08:19:29 PM
Them too. I bet LambChop is butt-hearted because he spent his coinZ. I surely won't sell him mine. Not before $20,000 pages. Grin

I sold 200 BTC at $50 dollar increments above $100 on my wife's insistence.  I'm still pissed about those trades.

But I forgave when she nagged me to dump 50 BTC at $1150.

You need to stop letting your wife tell you what to do.  

250 x $360.8 = $92.450 current USD value in bitcoin. I'll bet you got less than that for the ones you sold. You would've been better off keeping your btc till today.



142. Post 9665641 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

Quote from: David M on November 26, 2014, 08:46:53 PM
You need to stop letting your wife tell you what to do.  

250 x $360.8 = $92.450 current USD value in bitcoin. I'll bet you got less than that for the ones you sold. You would've been better off keeping your btc till today.


She doesn't tell me what to do.  We discuss options.  It's called a partnership.  
The minute you start to think that you know everything, you know nothing.

I'm confused with your calculations.

EDIT:  The decimal point confused me.  You are correct.  No regrets though, it has been an awesome experience.

Sorry about the decimal, it was supposed to be a comma.  Your words "insistence" and "nagged" make it seem as if she may have very strong influence in your trading decisions. I understand it is tough to make decisions on trading and hindsight is easy. As long as you had fun and are swimming in the new pool with the wife it's all good.



EDIT: LOL @ grappa_barricata



143. Post 9703731 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: octaft on December 01, 2014, 01:27:22 AM
How the hell does NotLambChop do it? How is he so good at trolling? The guy is an obvious troll like 98% of the time, everyone says he's a troll, the guy even outright admits it occasionally, and he STILL baits people into responding to him.

Either he is the best troll of all time, or a lot of you are very easy to troll. I'm putting my money on the latter.

He's not the best but this forum is fertile ground right now with a possible shift in market sentiment after a long bearish year. He does work at it very diligently, posts a LOT with more than full time job hours spent doing it, and is mildly entertaining at times. There will always be people who are easy to provoke with emotional reactions to someone who is willing to admit they just have a strong impulse for schadenfreude and do it for the "lels". http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141126094055.htm



144. Post 9717978 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Not coal but this Christmas will definitely be leaner than last. Luckily, no need to dip into the wallets for it.



145. Post 9727475 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 03, 2014, 01:13:46 PM

Means there is a chance of the coins going to be dumped on exchanges at sight?

Or just manipulation to scare people and lower the price?

I have a funny feeling Citi and the other "prospective bidders" are selling the story of bidding on the coins at a great discount in order to get the other bidder to low-ball the bid so they can get their coins at or just under market price.

No bidder would willingly show their hand, seems like a classic poker bluff to me.

Citi is not an auction participant AFAIK

I have no idea why Citi would have anything to say on this action at all. Why are they voicing an opinion?



146. Post 9799421 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

CNBC: The real advantage of paying with bitcoin



147. Post 9800278 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: souspeed on December 10, 2014, 07:08:16 PM

Great piece!
Well worth the read...

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So, when we ask the question, what needs to happen for the mass adoption of bitcoin to occur; the answer is just time. .................................. Its adoption really is inevitable.



The comments are more worth reading than usual.



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149. Post 9827339 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

That "pyramid scheme element" is really just incentive. Without work done to produce the unit and incentive (expectation of greater future value) to participate, why adopt? No coin will adopt to mainstream without incentive and an initial hardcore (fanatical) fan base to keep it strong until critical mass is reached. Ripple shills (meaning the ones who post in the bitcoin wall observer thread, not the ripple wall observer thread) are so excited to pronounce ripple's big  (p)/(j)ump in value and at the same time proclaim volatility is a problem. You can't have it both ways.

Competition is a good thing for bitcoin and it won't deserve to survive if it can't smash the competition. I'm confident it will Cheesy




150. Post 9827471 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on December 13, 2014, 12:21:00 PM

Why that focus on ripple in the first place? My post said that because of BTC and Blockchain problems, BTC will probably be replaced by something better in the future. I just mentioned ripple because it's a protocol that tries to do something different.


Because I looked through your recent post history for the reasons that bitcoin was flawed you mentioned (since you didn't give a link). Pretty much every post had something pro ripple in it. Then you come here to disparage bitcoin in the wall observer thread to say something else will displace it. Roll Eyes



151. Post 9842649 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 15, 2014, 02:41:49 AM

[Reuters ANALYSIS] All the rage a year ago, bitcoin sputters as adoption stalls
https://www.zawya.com/story/All_the_rage_a_year_ago_bitcoin_sputters_as_adoption_stalls-ZAWYA20141214035800/

bitcoin is dying yada, yada, yada ... go on just come out and say it once, you know you want to.

The article is certainly more uninformed spin than substance. For any of us who have been around long enough, we're getting pretty used to it from the media by now.  The situation has actually dramatically improved more recently.



152. Post 9843103 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 15, 2014, 02:55:13 AM

[Reuters ANALYSIS] All the rage a year ago, bitcoin sputters as adoption stalls
https://www.zawya.com/story/All_the_rage_a_year_ago_bitcoin_sputters_as_adoption_stalls-ZAWYA20141214035800/

bitcoin is dying yada, yada, yada ... go on just come out and say it once, you know you want to.

The article is certainly more uninformed spin than substance. For any of us who have been around long enough, we're getting pretty used to it from the media by now.  The situation has actually dramatically improved more recently.

Well, it quotes bitcoiners for the stalling adoption thing, and gives some new relevant information.  Like the fact that most of those new wallets created at blockchain.info are empty.

Don't worry, bitcoin is chugging along just fine. Price and then media attention will lead the next big adoption wave at some point. People really need to have a longer term vision and manage their expectations.



153. Post 9850702 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: macsga on December 15, 2014, 10:08:47 PM
Why would anyone dump just after the MS announcement and right before the money hits the exchanges?

Because the bubble hasn't fully deflated yet?

Huh? Check the charts we're bottoming out already.

are we bottoming or is the bear bubble about to pop?
YES!!!!1 bottoming!!!!!!!!! Grin


YES!!!!BEAR BUBBLE POPPING!!!!!!!!




154. Post 9861030 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Tree tirdy tree, point tree



155. Post 9861527 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: grappa_barricata on December 16, 2014, 11:28:49 PM
price dropped 10% in last 24h, china awakening in 30m, lets see what happen


At some point, they are going to want to buy. Not sure when, but it is coming.

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/12/16/pboc-ex-deputy-says-bitcoin-fiat-can-co-exist-in-china/




156. Post 9861954 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Actually, bitcoin had a pretty good 2014







157. Post 9901770 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

Quote from: shmadz on December 21, 2014, 12:42:31 AM
CCM.....

I'm not falling for that one again....

Not getting excited until 500s!

Heh, I'm not getting excited until 5,000s  Wink

Or double digits, lol  Roll Eyes

Surpassing the last ATH has always meant going much higher in the past so that's what I would get excited about. 1163 FTW!!!

[edit] Of course there is the possibility that this time could be different.



158. Post 9901876 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-apps-bitcoin-speculators-need/

It's almost like this article was written specifically for shroomsy Cheesy



159. Post 9901926 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

Quote from: shmadz on December 21, 2014, 01:15:56 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-apps-bitcoin-speculators-need/

It's almost like this article was written specifically for shroomsy Cheesy

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tl;dr: Miner’s main output is a secure network, apps will be the main driver of bitcoin’s price, speculators are healthy, and volatility should not be feared.

But what about the idiot traders? Huh

They like to dump Cheesy



160. Post 9913359 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

I couldn't access the WSJ article either. It sounds very similar to this: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-bitcoins-volatile-price-doesnt-matter-20141221-00062



161. Post 9935559 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Merry Christmas to everyone here after a LONG YEAR in bitcoin.

Can't wait to see what 2015 has in store for us.



162. Post 9980217 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 30, 2014, 03:30:42 AM
Can someone explain why a double bottom is not forming on the 1w charts?

maybe it is...we wont know until it breaks up (if it does)
We're looking at a big booty double bottom, not one of those skinny bulimic double bottoms.


Maybe something like the below bottom:



This lady's got the thickness.  BUY SIGNAL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7uVDQWrYs



163. Post 9996702 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: akujin on December 31, 2014, 09:15:09 PM
Bitcoin bull to the moon in 2015


Aww.. The poor bull thought he's finally going to the moon... He didn't know he wouldn't be able to put his helmet on


B-bull donīt need no helmet for space.

Itīs just there for photographic effect.





164. Post 10012103 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

I was really excited when it went from 315.1 to 315.7 on stamp. The next 10 mins are critical!



165. Post 10012763 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 02, 2015, 02:27:07 PM
I was really excited when it went from 315.1 to 315.7 on stamp. The next 10 mins are critical!

It just broke $316. Start posting rocket trains.  Grin

OMG!



166. Post 10035974 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.43h):

What a bunch of overly emotional pussies many bitcoiners are. If you are holding and feeling fear right now, that is the plan. The myriad bears and trolls in here are part of the scam to get your coins cheap. It's time to hold and buy like never before with money you can afford to lose. How do you imagine it felt to buy at 1.99 in 2011? Do you think it was scary back then to buy then when similar sentiment was running high? No one is going to get rich easy, it will take balls of steel (right Jorge? Cheesy)

< 4B Market cap is peanuts. The concept is being more proven as time goes on and the network is expanding with buying bitcoin being less and less of a risk as time goes on.  We are very close to bitcoin 1.0  



167. Post 10076611 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.45h):

[Yahoo Finance  January 7, 2015]: SilentVault is an open source peer-to-peer anonymous Bitcoin wallet with built-in exchange and embedded escrow



168. Post 10076764 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.45h):

Bitcoin Is Not About Money: Together we are building the mode of resistance that shall cause for your empire of paper to collapse, that will free everyone from the shackles of debt



169. Post 10160922 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.49h):

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

I'm not complaining.



170. Post 10161219 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.49h):

Quote from: macsga on January 15, 2015, 06:48:40 AM
I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

I'm not complaining.

Maybe they're all one person and he's asleep  Grin

LambTroll alone has like 10 accounts (I've ignored them all, hopefully) Tongue

Yep, that's pretty much what I meant by an ignored. I don't use the ignore hammer on many people and like well reasoned bearish posts but ya gotta draw personal boundaries or the demons will run amok.



171. Post 10171252 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: outahere on January 16, 2015, 02:58:17 AM
Hello bulltards.
I am back. With even more fiat and BTCs.
I told you in december 2013... but you did not want to listen. Hopefully you lost a lot of BTC or FIAT or BOTH!
Ok, so you got lucky and made a good call. So what? You are nothing but a trader that knows how to take advantage of this legacy centralized trading system. Guess what? Decentralized markets are coming and you will be a clueless as everyone else how they unfold. So enjoy your spoils of war, because they will be among your last. Go gloat to your Wall Street buddies that made billions ripping off hard working people. No? That's because you are not one of them. You are not one of us either. Holding bitcoins makes you lose nothing, and you will never understand that.

pwned



172. Post 10182668 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: pjviitas on January 17, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
Later bitcoin will worth back to $1 $0.1 $0.01 $0.001 ... nothing
The dollar will go to nothing before bitcoin. Every national paper currency that ever existed in all history eventually lost all face value. The dollar will too. Bitcoin is different because it is not national or paper. The sovereign backing Bitcoin is the internet.

Your right...unfortunately when this happens the most valuable thing will be food, water, shelter and bullets....not BTC

That's ridiculous but I've heard it repeated many times. People will just switch to a better currency or money to trade. We aren't going to regress to beyond the retard age just because paper's true value is discovered.



173. Post 10182757 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: pjviitas on January 17, 2015, 03:52:14 AM
Later bitcoin will worth back to $1 $0.1 $0.01 $0.001 ... nothing
The dollar will go to nothing before bitcoin. Every national paper currency that ever existed in all history eventually lost all face value. The dollar will too. Bitcoin is different because it is not national or paper. The sovereign backing Bitcoin is the internet.

Your right...unfortunately when this happens the most valuable thing will be food, water, shelter and bullets....not BTC

That's ridiculous but I've heard it repeated many times. People will just switch to a better currency or money to trade. We aren't going to regress to beyond the retard age just because paper's true value is discovered.

Papers true value is not any different than BTC value...its all a confidence game.

If you can't figure it out, I don't have time to explain. Sorry



174. Post 10197063 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: fonsie on January 18, 2015, 04:11:14 PM
OK guys, this one will really make you laugh.

"Academic interest in E-mail only. Do not trust e-mail! Very skeptical of its longterm success."--Jorge Stolfi
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/NoEMail.html

This so called CS professor can't even handle e-mail.


This is just mindblowing.

@StolfiProfessor
Pro Tip!

Don't sign up for every porn site on the internet, you'll get less SPAM that way.

Truly priceless Cheesy



175. Post 10197245 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 18, 2015, 04:35:15 PM
i guess in the 90s he told everyone that the internet will not succeed

I started using the internet in 1979.

And yet you couldn't even use email in 2005? Shameful



176. Post 10206719 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

some fuel for the bulls http://finance.yahoo.com/news/netagio-launches-credit-debit-card-080000743.html



177. Post 10219329 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Moria843 on January 20, 2015, 06:05:05 PM
What does HODL mean? Doesn't even show up in google Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0



178. Post 10228545 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Recent Big Bitcoin Drop Looks Like A Squeeze; That Could Be A Huge Problem

Sharks a-swimmin'



179. Post 10228861 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: madmax6688 on January 21, 2015, 02:54:50 PM

What exactly is a squeeze? Care to elaborate?

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/08/short-squeeze-profits.asp



180. Post 10228868 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Dilla on January 21, 2015, 03:23:37 PM
As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

That's $692,250 a day at current prices. 24hr volume is $17mil. Please research your statements.

+1



181. Post 10236928 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Why the Top Dogs of Finance Are Investing in Bitcoin

That this new interest from conventional investors comes after a 67% decline in the Bitcoin price last year speaks volumes. They recognize that the real value of Bitcoin isn't the price on any given day, but the technology it's built upon.


It's beartrollwhale season!



182. Post 10237886 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 23, 2015, 02:57:21 PM
...They recognize that the real value of Bitcoin isn't the price on any given day, but the technology it's built upon...

That's why they don't buy BTC & invest in companies instead Undecided

Yeah sure Roll Eyes  If you believe that, you are dumber than you look.



183. Post 10238122 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

I hear pigs are very smart as well.  



184. Post 10238354 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 23, 2015, 04:49:14 PM
.@silverfuture: You hear right.  Even fruit flies are [arguably] smarter than bulls.
Bull brain's so tiny, you need a diagram to find it Cheesy



Luckily, I don't identify with animal spirits.



185. Post 10238437 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 23, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
...
Luckily, I don't identify with animal spirits.

Not a problem.  Don't make you taste no different.



I'm sure you'll love the taste of my testicles!

Quote from: silverfuture on January 23, 2015, 04:34:09 PM
I hear pigs are very smart as well. 



186. Post 10238524 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on January 23, 2015, 05:07:24 PM

I fed them back to YOU.....

Oh, please. You slurped them up and asked for more. No need to be bashful.



187. Post 10244206 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.52h):

Quote from: heartastack on January 24, 2015, 05:39:01 AM
Did Bitcoin turn cool since the forum came back online? Gimme sum dem

Disk failure gave Theymos the chance to hit the "party on" button on the back of the server.



188. Post 10244245 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.52h):

 Grin



189. Post 10250369 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.52h):

woot



190. Post 10255058 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.52h):

Unfortunately, notlambchop's poop supply is completely unlimited.



191. Post 10259435 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.52h):

Quote from: elasticband on January 25, 2015, 10:09:10 PM
Rise haggis rise my little haggis

She'll be over 260.00 in 3...2...



192. Post 10261941 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.53h):

Quote from: spooderman on January 26, 2015, 03:22:14 AM
I wonder what those "bitcoin is dead" trolls are doing now?

trying to find other work.

It was all just a big misunderestimation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927702.0




193. Post 10262016 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.53h):

Quote from: silverfuture on January 26, 2015, 03:46:29 AM




194. Post 10270729 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.53h):

Quote from: podyx on January 26, 2015, 08:21:31 PM
Bears are really getting slapped around





195. Post 10282340 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.53h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on January 27, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
What if Lambchop is Satoshi ?

Pretty sure he/she/they could put their time to better use.



196. Post 10283938 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.54h):

Quote from: dreamspark on January 28, 2015, 01:18:21 AM
nice try bitfinex and huobi.

but btc-e and  bitstamp are not convinced.

huobi and okcoin dont give a damn lol

I second that.  

Bitstamp and BTC-e dont have the money to be convinced.

western exchanges are like that one guy who "lost his wallet".. doesnt go anywhere unless other others bring him along for the night..

Yup, and thats why Stolfi looks so retarded every time he talks about China leading etc etc. Half the people trading in China are 'western'.

Stolfi looks retarded anyway. He is so biased, it isn't funny . Bias does not lend itself to the scientific method very well.



197. Post 10284294 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.54h):

Dat volume though! It's higher than ever @ 'finex.



198. Post 10358805 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

It's amazing how the beartrolls take a break from their usual schadenfreude fest to show their tender emotional side in empathy for the wife of a bitcoin cultist who is steering them off the financial cliff.  This reddit post is held up as an example of the "typical bitcoin cultist" without considering that there are many people bullish about bitcoin who are not willing to go all in or double down with more buying than is prudent. Of course people are going to make bad investment decisions no matter what the asset is. Don't blame bitcoin for some people's bad decisions or relationships.  



199. Post 10360125 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

1,000,000$ ask wall on 'finex.



200. Post 10368701 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

I believe we've got a H&S pattern forming on the 7 day charts. we haven't broken under the neckline yet but if we do...



201. Post 10369708 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: LewiesMan on February 05, 2015, 07:53:57 PM
I'm out of this shit. May the next drop now begin? Grin Cheesy

I sold at 300, happy I did Smiley

Sold @309. Rebought @228 and missed the exit @~240 Grin

Im sure exit will open again at 230.

Just not sure if it will retest 205 before then.

There will be a mini pump to 230 I am guessing and then a shorting fall to sub 200 Sad

The next time we head to 230 will be a rally.  

Then I hope this is soon. We just need a piece of news, anything!

This might work.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/05/technology/security/bitcoin-silk-road/index.html?section=money_latest
It may help to dispel the anonymity myth and may help to assuage fears of misuse by terrorist, drug dealers, politicians and central banks.  



202. Post 10372748 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: shmadz on February 06, 2015, 03:33:40 AM
Sadly no time to keep up with the thread, but I was just skimming and then I saw this...

you don't know who owns the large amount of BTC.

You may say that unknown people managed to get billions of BTC by bad ways, but they probably already sold most of them...

Yes, exactly! I don't know who owns the majority of BTC. Also you and the majority of the market doesn't know that. They only have their high hopes of easy riches. No facts nor certainties to base their speculations on. It's all blind gambling with degenerate gamblers trying to mask their addiction with illusionary fantasies.

Well I do know who owns the majority of USD and it's a bunch of thugs who use the government to do their dirty work for them. "Intellectual Property" owners who use law enforcement to keep me from copying books, movies, songs, drugs, etc that I already own. Those poor impoverished drug, movie and music industry execs, software moguls and J.K. fucking Rowling. They're so poor they have to go to some soup kitchen called Spago to commiserate with each other.

I'm not looking for easy riches. I'm looking for freedom.

Not sure this is the best place for political opinions to be voiced, discussed, or debated; but on this particular issue, I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm not looking to get rich by stealing the wealth of others. In fact, I want to see the end of the current system which enables such theft.

When enough people begin to realize the extent of the corruption going on, there will be hell to pay.

Sleep tight gentlemen.





This is it. It's the only TA needed for long term wall observing. People desire financial freedom. Maybe some of you don't want it yet, but you probably will soon. I do want a relative amount of riches and there is no need for them to come especially hard, it's just work and savings.



203. Post 10378274 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

^ what is it with you and faggots anyway? You said one time before that you weren't a "moral fag" which begs the question "well then what, kind of fag are you?" as you try to "help" warn against the dangers of the perma bulls BTCitcoin supporters.

I guess Nikita Khrushchev didn't realize that a homosexual, Alan Turing, was one of the most important determining factors in how WW2 played out.



204. Post 10378412 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 06, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
...
I guess Nikita Khrushchev didn't realize that a homosexual, Alan Turing, was one of the most important determining factors in how WW2 played out.

Comrade Khrushchev didn't put the faggot in a nuthouse, castrate him & drive him to suicide, why such anger, imperialist expansionist pig? Undecided


No he didn't, but comments like his and yours show the same level of ignorance as those who did. Me angry? No, you're the one with the seething vitriol who calls people faggots. Deep seated insecurity maybe?



205. Post 10379208 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: Sitarow on February 06, 2015, 05:41:05 PM
BTC price is compressing like a spring. These little $20 moves up and down will only rob you of sleep and coin. When the market breaks, it will be fast and decisive. You won't have time to place an order. You will be in or out.
True...

12:41PM EST




Wow, so coa32 is COUNTERint on trollbox? The comment from coa32 came before the btc-e trollbox capture. Freaky

EDIT: Or Zybiski



206. Post 10390112 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

Quote from: dillpicklechips on February 07, 2015, 10:06:53 PM
NotLambchop:

That's your critique? Some people preach bitcoin? It must not have a future after all if some people are too excited about it. Sorry, but based on your posts your contribution to the "signal to noise" ratio of this forum is mostly noise. It's sad because this forum used to be about learning, debate and education. Now it seems like its overrun by people with ulterior motives and trolls who just want to irritate other bitcoiners.  

I would love to hear your main critiques of bitcoin in another thread though where your posts are on topic. I know you "don't cater to the lowest common denominator" but how else can I see my folly?

You do realize this is who you are talking to?





Neither logic nor reason will kill one with no life.



207. Post 10400729 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 09, 2015, 01:37:41 AM
I don't think that there will be an immediate reaction to the mycoin.hk debacle (but I may be wrong, of course).

People have blamed bad press after the MtGOX collapse for the general price decline since Feb/2014.  I don't think MtGOX had that much influence, not even when it was fresh news (which is no longer the case). The only clear effects of MtGOX on price were a couple of sudden drops, notably on 2014-02-07 and 02-10, when Mark hinted/stated that there was a "bug in bitcoin".  But those drops were soon undone when the claims were dismissed.  As I said before, I believe that the general deciine since Feb/2014 is mostly due to the Chinese speculators getting disenchanted with bitcoin and taking their remaining money out of the market.

The mycoin.hk debacle may however convince the Chinese government to impose even stricter regulations about bitcoin trading; and those would surely have a large impact on the price (like the ones in March/April 2014).

Meh. Em Tee Gox was an exchange that was missing a lot of BTC and it only caused a couple of sudden drops with a market that expected those btc to make it to the remaining exchanges to sell. The mycoin.hk thing will likely have little effect on the market because, as I understand it,  it's an obvious fiat ponzi scheme that merely used bitcoin as part of the ruse. Ponzis are already illegal so no further legislation needed.



208. Post 10400847 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 09, 2015, 02:26:01 AM
The mycoin.hk thing will likely have little effect on the market because, as I understand it,  it's an obvious fiat ponzi scheme that merely used bitcoin as part of the ruse. Ponzis are already illegal so no further legislation needed.

I generally agree, except that there are claims that mycoin.hk operated also an exchange that scammed their clients too.  So there may be some consequences for other exchanges.

Ah, OK. I hadn't heard of the exchange.



209. Post 10416791 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

^ Wow, burn.  Cheesy



210. Post 10428411 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

This place is in need of a bit of choo choo power to change the subject away from nazi topics.



We're up 1.93% in 24hrs!!!  All aboard!!!

 Grin






211. Post 10428647 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 11, 2015, 04:33:07 PM
This place is in need of a bit of choo choo power to change the subject away from nazi topics.



We're up 1.93% in 24hrs!!!  All aboard!!!

 Grin






222.2  two, two, two two whooo woooo!



212. Post 10428775 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 11, 2015, 05:07:41 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Same old same old, I see.

Bulls waiting for a train to the moon. Bears waiting for Bitcoin to die.

Funny how waiting can be such a merry dance.



How's the coffee this "morning"?



213. Post 10438231 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: aztecminer on February 12, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
This thread is dead. We need some action. Please price, move !!!!


maybe ask adam guezbuer about the "the roller coaster that make the current roller coaster nothing"

He was talking about his daily blood sugar levels, not btc/usd price.



214. Post 10439619 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/madstar-mobile-allows-digital-crypto-151043443.html

Bullish? At any rate, it's about time there was some action in this sector. Seems a perfect match.




215. Post 10440205 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on February 12, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
/r/buttcoin will overtake /r/bitcoin




216. Post 10444776 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Is coinbase leading this spike?



217. Post 10444864 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: shmadz on February 13, 2015, 06:41:50 AM
Is coinbase leading this spike?

I'm not sure who lead, but Houdini err huobi seems to be following through

I wouldn't think they had enough volume to lead but they seem to have the highest price. Why would there be a premium there?



218. Post 10463348 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 11, 2015, 04:33:07 PM
This place is in need of a bit of choo choo power to change the subject away from nazi topics.



We're up 1.93% in 24hrs!!!  All aboard!!!

 Grin





Never underestimate the power of the train photo!



219. Post 10472289 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):

Quote from: WeltMaster on February 15, 2015, 08:46:06 PM
Way oversold and everyone too bearish,

Going long at $230 Smiley

Yup, if it bounces back above 250, it will go much higher. It could be a mirage but there seems to be much support at 230.



220. Post 10472568 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: bassclef on February 15, 2015, 09:14:32 PM
Shorting after obvious absorption volume. Seems like a good plan. /s

Short all....

the dollars!




221. Post 10473241 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

It's interesting that the BTER hackers grabbed the BTC but left the altcoins alone. Hmmn..



222. Post 10473424 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

The time to start being optimistic in order to manage expectations would be >400$ and even after that I think it will be months before the real rocket train pics start to appear.  

Until then, just buy (with money you can burn without being hurt) and hold in cold storage.



223. Post 10473512 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: podyx on February 15, 2015, 11:01:53 PM
It's interesting that the BTER hackers grabbed the BTC but left the altcoins alone. Hmmn..

Nobody wants shitcoins, not even those who want them.

They are just a way to get  bitcoins from people who are looking to go back in time to be an early adopter for the next coin (which won't materialize).



224. Post 10473683 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 15, 2015, 11:19:17 PM
It's interesting that the BTER hackers grabbed the BTC but left the altcoins alone. Hmmn..

Nobody wants shitcoins, not even those who want them.

They are just a way to get  bitcoins from people who are looking to go back in time to be an early adopter for the next coin (which won't materialize).

Anyone who understand economics a bit sees that any rival to Bitcoin has a seriously steep hill to climb. I saw a podcast with Vitalik Buterin where he talked about different technical solutions to adjusting the flow of new coins, but he is blinded by the technology. Any rival to Bitcoin will have to go through the same rollercoaster, except there might be more mature exchanges around by then.

Edit: LTCM thought they had figured it out (with maths, not really tech), that was an epic disaster. A similar kind of "exploit" in one of these more advanced hypotethical altcoins could render it useless.

In order to appreciate bitcoin you need to have an understanding of economics, networks and their effects, and at least a working knowledge of the ins and outs of the code and cryptography.  There are a lot of traders who only know charts or finance, techies who want to build a better coin, or economists who only know Keynesian macro who have opinions seen through those filters. I do think there is room for some alts to have a smaller role in the future but good luck toppling BTC network.



225. Post 10473805 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: dewdeded on February 15, 2015, 11:47:32 PM
silverfuture: you spread fucking FUD, you motherfucking one world order-bitcoiner

you are an disgrace to bitcoin, generally crypto currency and crypto finance as a whole

Vote with your own money, it's your choice.  

Edit: did you buy your monero with $$$ or with BTC?



226. Post 10474761 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: mortified on February 16, 2015, 12:57:02 AM
silverfuture: you spread fucking FUD, you motherfucking one world order-bitcoiner

you are an disgrace to bitcoin, generally crypto currency and crypto finance as a whole

Vote with your own money, it's your choice.  

Edit: did you buy your monero with $$$ or with BTC?
Are there any non-BTC exchanges?

I don't think so. That's kinda the point.



227. Post 10480903 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: elasticband on February 16, 2015, 05:12:11 PM


who's the local brute force expert?

Try this fellow:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1171

He successfully brute forced a wallet for me.



228. Post 10481351 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: elasticband on February 16, 2015, 05:47:53 PM


who's the local brute force expert?

Try this fellow:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1171

He successfully brute forced a wallet for me.

Any public thread about your situation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148613.80

EDIT: there is also this thread which is more specific to eletrum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938480.msg10283643#msg10283643




229. Post 10483000 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: spooderman on February 16, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
So...bitcoin is fungible? Great!

That's what I was thinking too, being fungible is one of the desirable qualities of money. Compare bitcoin to other money systems or networks, not plush toys or hockey cards. You have to be really reaching to make any type of comparison and anyone who does reveals their current level of understanding.



230. Post 10484093 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Professors stake out territory for bitcoin

Quote
If all goes according to plan, the course will launch nine hot start-ups, ready to take advantage of venture capital enthusiasm for the much-hyped virtual currency — and all without any cross words or legal fights.

Think of it as a “semester-long business hackathon”, Prof Harvey says, “and think of me as the VC professor. The lone requirement of the course is to propose a venture that is related somehow to the bitcoin blockchain.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/84bd9f02-9b54-11e4-950f-00144feabdc0.html

Chug Chug down the track on the way to the launchpad it goes and all some can think about is short term price movement.

Apple pay kill bitcoin? LOL!



231. Post 10484632 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: 12345mm on February 17, 2015, 12:13:57 AM


im a tech savvy genius level person ...

...with no appreciation for the technology we commonly call paragraphs.



232. Post 10489804 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Good morning gentletrolls. Don't forget to punch in...




233. Post 10490789 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Your daily dose of hopium from Nasdaq...

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-nature-of-bitcoin-trading-has-changed-and-that-may-bring-hope-cm445142



234. Post 10491074 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: xingming on February 17, 2015, 04:14:01 PM

We still at the same rate for a month is this a good point or we can see at big dump next days ?

We're up 14% over the last 30 days and 8% for the week.



235. Post 10491094 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: micalith on February 17, 2015, 04:15:00 PM

hopium in deed!

tl;dr  the author might have bought some coin at what he hopes is the bottom, and so tries to tell us that stability is coming.

Assuming bitcoin survives (I think so), volatility will surely decrease as liquidity increases, but I reckon the kind of stability needed for big business to hold bitcoin is not yet on the horizon.

Yes, for sure.  What he is saying though is that he sees evidence that traders and speculators are increasingly getting us to that point.



236. Post 10502631 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

CNN: Breaking the bank: Bitcoins hit Africa's money transfer traditions

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/business/bitcoin-africa-unbanked/

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Transferring cash via a bank or a Money Transfer Operator (MTOs) like Western Union or MoneyGram can be costly. According to the Overseas Development Institute, the average charge to transfer $200 to Africa using traditional money transfer services is 12%. If you send $200, you pay $24. The ODI added up all the transfers that happen in a year, and found remittance fees cost the African continent $1.8 billion a year.

  
What if that money could be spent on things, rather than fees?

As Bitcoin is a virtual peer-to-peer currency -- designed to operate on the border-less internet -- the costs of transferring money can be radically cheaper than traditional methods, and the process is much quicker.

"Bitcoin can greatly alter the remittances industry and beyond," says Michael Kimani, who heads the African Digital Currency Association, a Kenya-based group launched last May to promote digital currency technologies. "From seven days [for a transaction to clear] using banks & PayPal, down to 20 minutes speaks volumes."



237. Post 10502943 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: Cassius on February 18, 2015, 05:13:12 PM

Brilliant!

If you look back through time in these threads you will find that almost everyone has given very poor predictions one way or the other. Proudhon looks silly now but so have many bulls with their wild predictions.



238. Post 10503393 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Bitcoin and Litecoin Can Now be Traded Directly With JustForex

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-litecoin-now-traded-directly-125200897.html

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Unlike other Forex brokers, JustForex provides direct cryptocurrency trading not using CFD or binary options. The company offers 9 financial instruments for trading on live accounts such as BTCUSD, BTCEUR, BTCCNH, BTCRUB and also LTCUSD, LTCEUR, LTCCNH, LTCRUB, LTCBTC. Trading cryptocurrencies with JustForex is beneficial because it gives some advantages which are not offered by other brokers:

- One of the highest leverage on the market for bitcoin and litecoin - 1:5;

- Wide choice of deposit methods, among which is deposit via Visa/Mastercard with 0% fee;

- Commission which is only 0,25% for opening a trading order;

- Trading with one of the most popular and comfortable platforms, MetaTrader 4;

- International regulation by IFSC and the safety of the client's funds.



239. Post 10504303 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 18, 2015, 06:43:41 PM
CNN: Breaking the bank: Bitcoins hit Africa's money transfer traditions

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/business/bitcoin-africa-unbanked/

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Transferring cash via a bank or a Money Transfer Operator (MTOs) like Western Union or MoneyGram can be costly. According to the Overseas Development Institute, the average charge to transfer $200 to Africa using traditional money transfer services is 12%. If you send $200, you pay $24. The ODI added up all the transfers that happen in a year, and found remittance fees cost the African continent $1.8 billion a year.

  
What if that money could be spent on things, rather than fees?

As Bitcoin is a virtual peer-to-peer currency -- designed to operate on the border-less internet -- the costs of transferring money can be radically cheaper than traditional methods, and the process is much quicker.

"Bitcoin can greatly alter the remittances industry and beyond," says Michael Kimani, who heads the African Digital Currency Association, a Kenya-based group launched last May to promote digital currency technologies. "From seven days [for a transaction to clear] using banks & PayPal, down to 20 minutes speaks volumes."

A laudable intention, and I hope that international payments and remittances will be much, much cheaper in the future.  However, bitcoin as a remittance mechanism has a problem: it does not actually send dollars to the Zimberians, it only shuffles Zimberian patacas among Zimberians.  This is what happens then:

https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2vypy9/if_i_was_looking_to_sell_big_or_relatively_big/
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Hi guys, I'm from a Bitcoin startup in the Philippines [ReBit] and we have services that range from payment processing, remittance, prepaid cards, and even new order book exchange.

Our business has been growing steadily and we've found ourselves needing to trade out big amounts of BTC for fiat on a consistent basis daily, which we have so far been able to do using our own contacts. Increasing volumes of incoming BTC is making it harder and harder though. [ ... ]

Some comments on that from the premier Skeptic Tank:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2w1f4g/rebit_having_problems_finding_bagholders_in_the/



Yes, those are legitimate challenges to overcome in using bitcoin for remittances. The fact is though that there are people looking to overcome those challenges and provide a valuable service. It is undeniable that this is an industry ripe for disruption with a lot of profits to chase. Wider adoption is needed in order to get us to a point where btc-btc remittances are all you need. You don't even need a third party for that.



240. Post 10547040 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Anyone else notice that NOTLAMBCHOP is an obtuse tool? A jerk off like that should just do us all a favor and terminate it's own pathetic and hollow existence?

I'm not angry like you always accuse your voluminous detractors of and it really won't bother me if bitcoin price goes lower...even single digits. I'm a hodler and a bad trader but the potential upside is fucking enormous for holding bitcoin. I'm willing to take big risks. No one is getting more of my coins (that I spent cpu power to acquire  Kiss ) until I'm fabulously wealthy. I just think you suck and I feel really sorry for your family and all the others who have wasted their precious life force looking at your manic keyboard shitflow. Please eat a cyanide pill or pull a Robin Williams, death isn't so bad and life is troublesome. Wink

P.S. ..and no, I haven't been reading your posts lately Lamby. You are eternally ignored and dead to me but I do see your handle all over the place during regular business hours still and it's just pathetic. Sad really. If you've seen a few of your useless posts and constantly regurgitated images, you've seen 'em all. On second thought, as far as killing yourself, I am pretty sure you could turn it all around and become a valued, productive member of society again with a little hard work and perseverance.

 




241. Post 10547232 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: fonzie on February 22, 2015, 06:20:02 PM
Spoken like a true Bitcoiner...

What do you expect? When you walk into a BITCOIN forum and start slinging shit and preaching the virtues of paper money like any common Mormon, Jehovah's witness, or slickster scumbag salesman. What else would you expect Mr. Fonzerelli? I'm not in the "fiat is fucking great" forum am I?

I don't respond this way to legitimate discourse on bitcoin and welcome contrary opinions or evidence.



242. Post 10547400 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 22, 2015, 06:38:43 PM
Spoken like a true Bitcoiner...

What do you expect? When you walk into a BITCOIN forum and start slinging shit and preaching the virtues of paper money like any common Mormon, Jehovah's witness, or slickster scumbag salesman. What else would you expect Mr. Fonzerelli? I'm not in the "fiat is fucking great" forum am I?

I don't respond this way to legitimate discourse on bitcoin and welcome contrary opinions or evidence.
Maybe, since it's a BITCOIN forum and not a "fiat sucks" forum, you should welcome people that talk about BITCOIN and bring arguments to the table whether these arguments are pro BITCOIN or not (especially if they aren't, since it's not supposed to be a cult, or maybe it is?).


Edit: oh, and yes, that warned you about this mess in advance too  Grin

What mess? Can't you read? I'm up thousands of percent. Three years ago I was only dreaming of 100$ bitcoin. I've been through many of these cycles and I embrace them. I don't always know what the market is going to do but my wealth, knowledge and life experience has grown exponentially along with the price in a short time. Life is good.  Smiley

Bitcoin has been crashing upward against fiat since inception and I do rest assured in a bit of my own schadenfreude in knowing how butthurt all you trolls were that you didn't get in when I did.  Kiss  




243. Post 10547623 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Hfertig on February 22, 2015, 06:57:47 PM
Can't wait for the cascading long squeeze once we drop below 220. With more than 50.000 coins long this is going to be fun to watch !

Big candles are exciting! Whoever is going to try it had better have a strong stomach for risk!!! Manbearwhales only need apply.



244. Post 10547730 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

NotHatinJustTrollin you are also obtuse and now ignored as well. I don't care when you got in. I know I got in much, much earlier because I was ahead of the curve in many ways and still am. You are here too much and protest way too much to be doing for anyone's benefit but your own. Suck it bitch. Come back when you can logic Cheesy 



245. Post 10547807 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dump3er on February 22, 2015, 07:18:44 PM
Bitcoiners getting even more sensitive ...

...it must be dumping time.

Calling people out for sucking has nothing to do with sensitivity. You are obviously a bitcoiner too or you wouldn't be here trying to talk your book.



246. Post 10548025 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dump3er on February 22, 2015, 07:31:10 PM
Bitcoiners getting even more sensitive ...

...it must be dumping time.

Calling people out for sucking has nothing to do with sensitivity. You are obviously a bitcoiner too or you wouldn't be here trying to talk your book.

Did I quote you?  Cheesy



Who else were you talking about? I see no one else in recent postings who could be falsely construed as a "sensitive bitcoiner". Most seem to be enjoying the show and the dump has been frankly pathetic so far. C'mon bears, YOU CAN DOOO EEET!@@



247. Post 10548151 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dump3er on February 22, 2015, 07:43:54 PM
Bitcoiners getting even more sensitive ...

...it must be dumping time.

Calling people out for sucking has nothing to do with sensitivity. You are obviously a bitcoiner too or you wouldn't be here trying to talk your book.

Did I quote you?  Cheesy



Who else were you talking about? I see no one else in recent postings who could be falsely construed as a "sensitive bitcoiner". Most seem to be enjoying the show and the dump has been frankly pathetic so far. C'mon bears, YOU CAN DOOO EEET!@@

Today I really saw a lot of oversensitive crying bull posts, you didn't?  Cheesy

No, I didn't. I must not have as much time to view all the posts as you Cheesy

BTW, How's that dump coming along Cheesy Cheesy






248. Post 10548468 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dump3er on February 22, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
Normally: "BITCOINERS ARE SO AND SO!"
When called out about it: "I wasnt talking about you".
Why waste time on trolls and people prone on making bullshit generalizations and are only here to say "bitcoins be total failure"?

Are you crying, too?

No, he's expressing incredulity at the ultimate sucking of some of the trollish beings that flock here here like you.

I think you just automatically assume that everyone one here has lost money because they bought in within the last year and is afraid of the big bad bear.

If those who already bought higher didn't already sell earlier, the most logical thing to do now would be to either sell and walk away for good, or hold and buy more at the point where we see a clear reversal of the bear trend. It's not clear that the reversal has happened yet but the price has been very stable for the last 30 days.  




249. Post 10548688 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dump3er on February 22, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
It's not clear that the reversal has happened yet but the price has been very stable for the last 30 days.

Are you sick?!

That's a far too reasonable statement for the typical Bitcoin bull.



I'm not a bull although sometimes I get carried away thinking the value will rise before it's time. I'm a full fledged member of the Bitcoiner Society Of Distinguished Gentlemen and Ladies. We don't give tribute to animal spirits being the pragmatists that we are.



250. Post 10549470 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 22, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
NotHatinJustTrollin you are also obtuse and now ignored as well. I don't care when you got in. I know I got in much, much earlier because I was ahead of the curve in many ways and still am. You are here too much and protest way too much to be doing for anyone's benefit but your own. Suck it bitch.  



Thanks for illustrating Cheesy



251. Post 10549975 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 22, 2015, 08:43:15 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.
 



252. Post 10550095 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: YourMother on February 22, 2015, 11:20:43 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.

 




Aggressive expressions like that when confronted by the light of reason are often a result of sexual dissatisfaction or extreme butthurtness. Sometimes it is a lashing out due to feelings of powerlessness. Which is it for you??



253. Post 10550166 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: lyth0s on February 22, 2015, 11:23:42 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.
 

This deserves it's own thread and sticky in the economics section. I'm surprised I haven't seen any of your other posts around. I'll see you on the moon Cheesy

Thank you Lythos, I'm mostly pretty quiet but just felt a need to use my words in the trollbox today to express myself more assertively in the face of all the negative trolololoing. Moon? We're shooting to explore another dimension, glad to have you along.  Shocked Cheesy



254. Post 10550394 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on February 22, 2015, 11:58:35 PM

I came here 2 years ago knowing nothing, and grow everyday learning.

Yeah it sucks for those that bought at the top, but IMO, I think we could see it again. The question is, how many of those that did jump in then, held? I dont think there are many left in that category.

That's the most important thing and something no one can take away short of giving you brain damage or the like. Even those who bought at 1000.00 are learning something valuable about their decision making abilities. Cheesy



255. Post 10550959 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlackSpidy on February 22, 2015, 11:27:22 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.
 

 Shocked Best. Post. Ever.
There's still the risk that we crash and burn, but losing my $50 invested in bitcoin (now, $53  Grin) is worth what I've learned so far. This ride is gonna be really, really fun.

Thanks, glad you found value in it. It's nice to see you are managing your risks comfortably, it makes for a much more enjoyable ride. Cheesy



256. Post 10550986 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 23, 2015, 12:42:06 AM
Half-true article on the history of money. Szabo did it better, but this is more entertaining.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-21/why-does-fiat-money-seemingly-work

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By contrast, in a fiat money system in which interest rates are administered by a bureaucratic central economic planning agency the signals sent by interest rates to entrepreneurs about expected future consumer demand and the true cost of capital are continually falsified, and thereby encourage malinvestment of scarce capital. Phases during which the supply of credit and money expands strongly and malinvestments proliferate are known as “economic booms”, and everybody loves them. When a boom turns to bust and the liquidation of malinvested capital becomes necessary, few people are aware that the preceding boom is at fault. And so the cry for more monetary and fiscal intervention arises, which lengthens and deepens the malaise by putting malinvested capital on artificial life support.

A near-textbook explanation of Austrian Business Cycle Theory. In Austrian economics, the capital structure of an economy is key. Booms and busts are caused/amplified by distortions in the market rate cost of money (interest). The fact that these distortions are intentionally caused by Central bankers implementing Keynesian policy is why Austrians and Keynesians have such animosity towards each other.

The bitcoin economy is currently experiencing a bull market in the fiat asset class due to deflation/ credit contraction in the fiat world. Central banks have hit the zero bound (interest rates can't go below zero or people will just hold onto their money) and have also resorted to outright counterfeiting (quantitative easing), but the consumer still won't spend. They tools they used to boost aggregate demand merely pushed demand forward and now there is little else they can do.

The bitcoin bear market looked at from the other direction is a fiat boom that will inevitably bust, but Keynes was right about one thing: Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent, which is why leveraged speculating is so dangerous even if you get the fundamentals right. 

Interesting posts, it's stuff like this I come here to read.



257. Post 10551005 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 23, 2015, 01:50:00 AM
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.

Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.

Miners aren't the ones selling in this market. It's pure speculative manipulation. A miner would never dump coins and cause the price to decline. They would sell the minimum number of coins necessary to cover costs at the best price possible and stock the rest for a much higher price.

Lets put this one to bed, miners are not dumping coins and they are certainly not doing them as a market order.

Best... Post... Recently.

Gotta agree with rolling. Miners are among the most optimistic of the bulls as a group.



258. Post 10551012 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: samsonn25 on February 23, 2015, 01:48:32 AM
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.

Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.

Mined coins are not that much, 3600 per day and the Chinese probably only have less than 35% share of that so thats only 1200 coins per days assuming they sell all of them every day.  

There is more belief of short traders and options sellers using leverage.

3600 isn't that many when you consider how many individuals those are distributed to. Most only get a tiny sliver of coin from each block and they all have different motivations. There are far, far more than 3600 coins that change hands on a daily basis.



259. Post 10551118 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 23, 2015, 02:04:08 AM
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.

Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.

Miners aren't the ones selling in this market. It's pure speculative manipulation. A miner would never dump coins and cause the price to decline. They would sell the minimum number of coins necessary to cover costs at the best price possible and stock the rest for a much higher price.

Lets put this one to bed, miners are not dumping coins and they are certainly not doing them as a market order.

Best... Post... Recently.

Gotta agree with rolling. Miners are among the most optimistic of the bulls as a group.

It doesn't matter how optimistic miners are. Miners have to service their debt and to meet expenses just like everybody else. If you postpone selling because of a bear market, you can end up NEEDING to sell more rather than less because the price is lower, the loan payments are higher and all your other expenses remain the same.  It doesn't matter one bit if it's market orders or limit orders creating more overhead resistance.

It's a factor and when you consider that the biggest pressures will be on the biggest operations who are financially weak and vulnerable to default. There are many miners who look at mining as a way to buy bitcoins without the risk and expense of mickey mouse exchanges and hacker/counterparty risk.

I was GPU mining 2 bitcoins a day on good days in late 2011 with a bitcoin price around 2$ @ 2 gh/s @1200watts of power at a comfortable profit loss. I'm glad I just kept those coins and didn't only look at the short term profits when deciding to continue. What helped was living within my means, a long term vision, and having reserve capital for expenses during lean times.  



260. Post 10551297 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Mikestang on February 23, 2015, 02:44:59 AM

I was GPU mining 2 bitcoins a day on good days in late 2011 with a bitcoin price around 2$ @ 2 gh/s @1200watts of power at a comfortable profit loss. I'm glad I just kept those coins and didn't only look at the short term profits when deciding to continue. What helped was living within my means, a long term vision, and having reserve capital for expenses during lean times.  

And a little bit of luck, you must admit.  Things could have gone the other way just as easily.  Happily, they didn't, but with any venture luck always has something to do with it.  I'm just getting into all this now, so I look at your situation like I'm hoping someone will at mine in 2019.

Maybe but it was mostly having a good macro understanding of what I was dealing with despite it being a trollfest in here with horrible daily news, laughing something awful members trolling and hacking the forum and proclamations everywhere that bitcoin was dying or dead and going to pennies a piece. I was buying when the blood was in the streets.



261. Post 10551433 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on February 23, 2015, 02:58:53 AM

I was GPU mining 2 bitcoins a day on good days in late 2011 with a bitcoin price around 2$ @ 2 gh/s @1200watts of power at a comfortable profit loss. I'm glad I just kept those coins and didn't only look at the short term profits when deciding to continue. What helped was living within my means, a long term vision, and having reserve capital for expenses during lean times.  

And a little bit of luck, you must admit.  Things could have gone the other way just as easily.  Happily, they didn't, but with any venture luck always has something to do with it.  I'm just getting into all this now, so I look at your situation like I'm hoping someone will at mine in 2019.

Maybe but it was mostly having a good macro understanding of what I was dealing with despite it being a trollfest in here with horrible daily news, laughing something awful members trolling and hacking the forum and proclamations everywhere that bitcoin was dying or dead and going to pennies a piece. I was buying when the blood was in the streets.

the laughing never stopped

Fools will laugh at what they don't understand if you just keep on keeping on despite it and chuckle to yourself as you win. My 2$ coins are now worth almost $300 a piece where I live. Who's laughing BTCest now? Not the ones who said it was a joke then.

Quote from: ElectricMucus on November 03, 2011, 06:13:31 PM
There is so many people already involved in Bitcoin that it will not "reach" 0.37 USD/BTC anymore. It will either slowly succeed, or slowly lower, or finally terminate (like not traded in public anymore).
That figure includes the current population of bitcoin users, if they were getting lower short term that would have been lower.
But don't mind, that figure is just were I consider prices to be fair....

@cyperdoc, if they stay at it, it is as simple for me: I'll stay away from bitcoin as far as possible.
Or to put it more directly: If we don't reach that price I won't be joining the economy, even if I miss something.

Quote from: ElectricMucus on October 27, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
I ask you this: What do you think are 10k bitcoins actually worth?

Independent of market prices in USD or Fiat currencies. Or to formulate this question differently, what do early developers want to buy with their bitcoins.

The reason I think this is important: The current height of the wealth pyramid is kind of steep. Way too steep to support a scenario where the bitcoin economy would be a significant part of the worlds economy. So you could also ask what are 100,000 or 1,000,000 bitcoins worth but the question remains the same.

In a world were bitcoin would engulf the entire world the richest Bitcoin holder would own the United States.
In a world were bitcoin would equal to 1% of the worlds economy he would still be the richest person on earth.

So here is the tricky part: How do we encourage early adopters to spend their coins? Do we wait till they feel that the price is worth it and they sell them on an exchange? That could work, or possibly not. Some might decide to gamble even if it takes a lifetime. And that is not the would I want to live in. (Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. )

Or do we come up with an alternative solution to use bitcoin to create a world more worth living in for everybody, including people with a huge wallet. Some of you may think this is impossible but that has been said of many things.

We have an amazing opportunity here people, something that was never before possible to attempt. There have been theoretical and technical considerations of how this should be attempted but never before there was a potential infrastructure in development to do it for real.


A socialista from 2011 tries to rally the team to trick bitcoiners out of their holdings and laughs endlessly when they are robbed. Nice Roll Eyes



262. Post 10551666 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on February 23, 2015, 03:57:01 AM
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A socialista from 2011 tries to rally the team to trick bitcoiners out of their holdings and laughs endlessly when they are robbed. Nice Roll Eyes

Is there a point to this or are you obsessed so much you really are skimming through my post history?

It was very easy, no skimming required, just search function. I'm obsessive about some things but not you, don't flatter yourself.

Here's my thoughts at a similar time:

Quote from: silverfuture on November 21, 2011, 09:11:56 AM
I don't do a lot of trading but when I do it is to increase my bitcoin holdings.  I mine within my means so that I don't have to sell bitcoins to pay for power.  I could easily afford to lose my investment without much harm or loss but the upside for 5-10 years down the road holds a lot of potential. Some call it hoarding, I call it savings.

I agree, it's totally a "hobby" for me right now.  I've spent more on other hobbies.

Mind me asking when you started mining?  I'm just curious if people are still jumping into the game.  I started about June.  I see you have 22 posts, so welcome if you are new to it.  I encourage you to continue posting!

Thanks, I've lurked for a while but just signed up here recently. I started solo mining on my laptop in jan or feb of 2010. People will jump into the game as it suits their own interests.  I like the way mining bitcoin at this point does not incentivize huge monopolizing mining farms with the 2.XXXXXXXX price as the most are unlikely to want to speculate with so much equipment and electricity cost, yet it does encourage cooperation of smaller rigs in pools and thus wider distribution for those without time pressures.



263. Post 10551696 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on February 23, 2015, 03:57:01 AM
-snip-
A socialista from 2011 tries to rally the team to trick bitcoiners out of their holdings and laughs endlessly when they are robbed. Nice Roll Eyes



I haven't been a goon for all that time, but I tricked Micera Poopscoop into buying me a forums account there with his credit card. (In case you wanna know)

Good to know. You are quite the trickster huh?

G'night forum.



264. Post 10551759 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ElectricMucus on February 23, 2015, 04:03:03 AM
Your point?

Mine is, Bitcoin and the Drama it generates was funny and it got funnier.

It has it's moments but I don't think other's real pain or loss is funny really. There are lots of good things to laugh about in life and I enjoy a lot of that. It seems somewhat sick to laugh at certain things and there are some interesting notions on the psychology of schadenfreude lately.

http://www.livescience.com/17398-schadenfreude-affirmation.html

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5916/937.abstract

But, carry on and don't let me tell you what to enjoy.



265. Post 10552792 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on February 23, 2015, 07:22:05 AM
My ignore list stands and will stand at 0.

This forum has a proud tradition of good trolls. A check on hyperbole and dare I say... euphoria.

ElectricMucus
Proudhon
Walsoraj
notlambchop

The pretenders/socks are less funny.

If the coin fails, they get "lels". If not, they fade away, it's cheap entertainment.

If you can't take some criticism and hilarity about your cryptocoin investment, you're in the wrong game.


No, there is one on that list that does deserve ignoring by me at least (and many others claim to as well). Notlambchop shits the threads up at a feverish pace catapulting violent statist fiat delusional propaganda here in a dedicated bitcoin forum in almost every thread possible trying to scare the bejeezers out of anyone who might listen. That does not constitute "A check on hyperbole and dare I say... euphoria"

A check on hyperbole would be reasonable and polite discourse, not that.  I probably should ignore more people than I do but I reserve that privilege for the truly daft and insane and don't even want to glance at their cringe worthy and unfunny shit anymore.

BTW, notlambchop pulled a hall monitor move to get a post with this image removed by the moderators recently for being "off topic". butthurt much? Lel indeed!



 Shameful indeed.   Grin


Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 23, 2015, 07:39:16 AM
Ok, I'm gonna step into this whirlpool and note that the likes of silverfurtune and billyjoeallen have been real intellectual boons to this thread. The trolls have went into hibernation when the bosses have taken hold of the reigns. Primarily, Mr SF ad BJA have made their points and are moving on to their next ones, soon. I just want to say thx to the bosses in due time.

Thanks, Man. Please don't feel the need to defend me against charges of racism, sexism or whatever the crimethink de jour is. Whatever my moral flaws, the reason why I advocate Bicoin is because it is money that doesn't need force or coercion in order to function.

Which would y'all rather have as a neighbor, a racist sexist homophobic who believes in the NonAggression Principle or an egalitarian who wants to make everyone equal by sticking guns in their faces?

Freedom means you have to put up with some unpleasant people with unpleasant ideas, but you don't have to put up with threats of violence by those who claim to be peaceful while having the State do their dirty work for them.

Me too on the NAP Billybob..it's revenge of the nerds part two Cheesy!

Thanks Ramsay, you are usually so mean a boss on tv Cheesy



266. Post 10552948 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on February 23, 2015, 08:12:49 AM
Notice I didn't say everyone else must not ignore him.

I think the guy's funny.

And I'm bullish on BTC's long term future... imagine that. I can ride this thing to 0, or 10k, and someone typing on a forum has nothing to do with it.





  Ok, carry on then. Different strokes for different folks Smiley  Edit: there was one pic notlambchop posted that made me lol so I will give him that.

P.S. Are you truly a newbie or have you been around for a while? You seem to be quite reasonable and knowledgeable about the forum.



267. Post 10552952 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BitChick on February 22, 2015, 11:44:26 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.

 

Where is the "like" button. Wink

Wisdom is hard to find in a world of foolishness.

#1- Check (always wishing I had more to invest on the bottom of these cycles but that is the way it goes I guess)
#2- Check (thanks to technically minded husband)
#3- Check (this thread can be difficult to learn much on but I have actually learned quite a bit on other threads here!  I feel like I have had a crash course in Economics in just the little under 2 years I have been involved in the BTC community.  So much to learn)
#4- Check  (Patience is a virture.  Long term thinking is key.)
#5 Check (Had some "profit" but nothing really life changing yet.  The goal is to at least pay for our kids private college without any debt with the help of our BTC investments, God willing.)  Edit:  I did use a small amount of BTC, some of which was even gifted to me by one benevolent community member here, to go on an amazing and life changing trip to India a few months ago. I am looking forward to doing even more world-wide outreach when the funds are available to do so. Smiley

Great to hear Bitchick, I missed your reply in the scuffle earlier and don't only want to waste energy on that when there are better contributing members like yourself to respond to. Sounds like a plan for success for you and proof for any who would question it that there are plenty of longer term bitcoiners with level heads and a moral compass who may not be as vocal as the assclown posse are. Cheesy



268. Post 10557202 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 23, 2015, 05:01:30 PM
I believe that it is not a coincidence that there are so few women who are "into" bitcoin.  Grin

bitcoin or computer science or engineering or any of the stuff that separates us from primitive subsistence-level savages.

When the first computer science courses opened in Brazil, women were often more that half of the students, and the brightest students were often women.  Over the years the proportion has dropped to the same level as in electrical and civil engineering, that is 5--10% or maybe less.

We had endless debates about why women don't apply to computer science anymore, with no conclusions.  It is not because computer science is "difficult". It is actually one of the professions where even dumb people can succeed.  There are plenty of women in medicine, chemistry, mathematics -- where you really need a functioning brain to work.  I taught intro computing to chemical engineering freshmen last semester, and to my surprise the class was again half women, and again some of the best students were women.

It must be some subtle thing in the popular image of the computer professional.  Perhaps the idea that he is an antisocial nerd who hardly leaves his mom's basement --- a way of life which may appeal to many adolescent men, but not to adolescent women.

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women [ ... ] living in houses they didn't build, talking on phones they didn't invent, typing on computers they didn't program, driving cars they didn't design, going to stores they don't manage to spend money they didn't earn.

And you still think that men are more intelligent than women?  Cheesy

You can't even divide it up between genders like that, and I think BJA is a little off base there. We all have a relatively wide range of biological individuality (Except for maybe the Winkelvii Smiley )  Women tend toward different types of intelligence and other qualities than men as a group for whatever reason and we seem better off as a network for it. Women seem to tend toward social, emotional, and creative intelligence and men tend toward logical, rational, and physical intelligence but those are only tendencies and, again, wide ranges can be expected in any population.  Intelligence is a tough quantitative analysis to make and the tools are still crude at best.

It is an often repeated myth to say that all bitcoiners are men, white, etc. etc.  It's a pretty diverse group but of course the bell curve does lean heavily to the white male geek stereotype to the delight of naysayers who use that as some sort of racist, sexist argument against bitcoin tech. I reject that thinking and think some people should just get a life and go do something productive instead. 

  Case in point, it was only a small, hardcore group of men who were the initial enthusiasts for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. They were so hardcore, they would go train and fight for next to nothing in pay, fans would travel for miles to see the shows, etc.  UFC almost was shut down and experienced many times when either regulatory bodies or (John McCain) politiciansa called for bans.  There were less women in support of it than there is for bitcoin and most opposed it as violence.  Cooler heads prevailed though and now we are at a point of mass adoption where Rhonda Rousey is one of the biggest stars and draws of the show. She beautiful, intelligent, and tough as fucking nails. A good role model for empowering women IMO.








UFC is the fastest growing sport in the world now and that type of event only happened in Brazil a little over 20 years ago when I first found out about it and started watching and training MMA.  Bitcoin shows many of the same developments as the UFC in its early adoption on the way to mainstreaming.



269. Post 10557624 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: thezerg on February 23, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Some absolute crap getting discussed today on here.

Take it to off topic.

I agree.  Is this garbage what we want the newbies who just watched that CNN special to read when they hit bitcointalk and look at active threads?

I understand that there's a fine line between trolling and a completely valid bearish perspective.  So it is not right to moderate on-topic bearish posts.  But the trash I'm reading today is not the image we want to present to new bitcoiners.  Letting it stay here is a bad idea if you care about Bitcoin, even if you care but happen to be short today.

So I'm here posting on this thread to ask other bitcoiners to en-masse ask the moderators to start monitoring this thread until the off-topic trolling -- in fact all the off topic posting -- goes somewhere else. 

Please reply to this post if you agree!!!   Drown out the garbage posts with replies so the trolls see how little we appreciate their off-topic "contributions".

And also start clicking the "report to moderator" link on off-topic posts to this thread.[/size]

thanks,
theZerg

I agree completely. Moderation here really sucks and it's why the place has run amok with scumbags and chased away valued postings.  I've had the moderators remove one of my posts with this image in it, because someone was butthurt and didn't like it Roll Eyes  I wonder who that was? Roll Eyes









When I tried to return the favor to NotLambchop by reporting one of his despicable, slanderous, trollposts here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10550381#msg10550381

I reported it hours and hours ago and yet it remains up along with all the other off topic crappy shit this cretin and his troll sock knob-gobblers post. Incredible! What does it take to get some decent moderation and participation to make this most popular thread more bitcoin friendly without all the shitfest?  I like contrary opinions and views and love a good laugh but this is ridiculous to see on the front page of bitcoin talk. 



270. Post 10557696 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: bassclef on February 23, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
I'd rather have off topic discussion than pages of low quality troll posts.

Agreed. I like this place as raucous as it can be in the best of times and hate to see it get crapped up so badly by a few malcontent bridge dwellers and possibly paid operatives.

 



271. Post 10557825 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 23, 2015, 06:35:50 PM
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When I tried to return the favor to NotLambchop by reporting one of his despicable, slanderous, trollposts here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10550381#msg10550381

I reported it hours and hours ago and yet it remains up along with all the other off topic crappy shit this cretin and his troll sock knob-gobblers post. Incredible! What does it take to get some decent moderation and participation to make this most popular thread more bitcoin friendly without all the shitfest?  I like contrary opinions and views and love a good laugh but this is ridiculous to see on the front page of bitcoin talk. 

You mean this?  How is it slanderous, do you even know what the word means?


Don't turn a blind eye!
Help stop Bitcoin perverts!



My google isn't broken brah. I know what it means. Pedos will be pedos no matter whether bitcoin exists or not. As a matter of fact bitcoin is more likely to get them busted like Ross Ulbrict than save them from good police work. The association you are implying is unfair and slanderous to bitcoiners as a group and you know it. You are intentionally trying to make these types of associations repeatedly in lots of threads and have been for a long time. You can't take the heat when it is turned on you and run to the hall monitor when you get pwned. Fuck off.



272. Post 10558367 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 23, 2015, 06:49:54 PM
Some absolute crap getting discussed today on here.

Take it to off topic.

I agree.  Is this garbage what we want the newbies who just watched that CNN special to read when they hit bitcointalk and look at active threads?

I understand that there's a fine line between trolling and a completely valid bearish perspective.  So it is not right to moderate on-topic bearish posts.  But the trash I'm reading today is not the image we want to present to new bitcoiners.  Letting it stay here is a bad idea if you care about Bitcoin, even if you care but happen to be short today.

So I'm here posting on this thread to ask other bitcoiners to en-masse ask the moderators to start monitoring this thread until the off-topic trolling -- in fact all the off topic posting -- goes somewhere else.  

Please reply to this post if you agree!!!   Drown out the garbage posts with replies so the trolls see how little we appreciate their off-topic "contributions".

And also start clicking the "report to moderator" link on off-topic posts to this thread.[/size]

thanks,
theZerg

I agree completely. Moderation here really sucks and it's why the place has run amok with scumbags and chased away valued postings.  I've had the moderators remove one of my posts with this image in it, because someone was butthurt and didn't like it Roll Eyes  I wonder who that was? Roll Eyes









 

When I tried to return the favor to NotLambchop by reporting one of his despicable, slanderous, trollposts here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10550381#msg10550381

I reported it hours and hours ago and yet it remains up along with all the other off topic crappy shit this cretin and his troll sock knob-gobblers post. Incredible! What does it take to get some decent moderation and participation to make this most popular thread more bitcoin friendly without all the shitfest?  I like contrary opinions and views and love a good laugh but this is ridiculous to see on the front page of bitcoin talk.  

You mean this?  How is it slanderous, do you even know what the word means?


Don't turn a blind eye!
Help stop Bitcoin perverts!



My google isn't broken brah. I know what it means. Pedos will be pedos no matter whether bitcoin exists or not. As a matter of fact bitcoin is more likely to get them busted like Ross Ulbrict than save them from good police work. The association you are implying is unfair and slanderous to bitcoiners as a group and you know it. You are intentionally trying to make these types of associations repeatedly in lots of threads and have been for a long time. You can't take the heat when it is turned on you and run to the hall monitor when you get pwned. Fuck off.

How is it you both have me on ignore & respond to, quote & report my posts?  I don't think I'm interested in carrying on a conversation with you, a vindictive, habitual liar, caught red-handed in the act of lying.
Go lie elsewhere, liar! Angry



I ignored you without using the button for a long time until it just became sickening to see your carefully crafted yet misguided accusations and insults towards "bitcoiners" everywhere. Then, I used the ignore button and still do except to see what you are responding to my posts but of course I still see tons of quoted crap that appears in other's post. You are absolutely prolific in your trolling during business hours and it's really ruining the place and setting an example for the newbs. Your ability to get my harmlessly retaliatory image removed by mods is remarkable and it's one reason why you are getting my full attention and wrath now.



273. Post 10558547 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 23, 2015, 07:43:08 PM

^Stop spinning this web of lies & just admit you're a liar, liar! Angry
Edit re. boldface: I never reported any of your crap to moderators, you're nowhere as relevant as you think.

Sure, it was probably just a moderator with not much else to do that picked my picture out of the shitstorm of crude and demeaning posts to delete on their own initiative. Right Roll Eyes

I think we all have a pretty good idea of who's lying Cheesy




274. Post 10558653 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 23, 2015, 08:01:01 PM
This thread used to be informative & an enjoyable read.
It's a total embarrassment now.

Do mods exist on this forum?

There is but they seem to have an anti-bitcoiner agenda by deleting posts from long time members in good standing and trust and upholding trollish slander from nefarious neer-do-wells.  I wouldn't be surprised if the sock trolls ARE the mods in this case.

I'd like to see it improve but until moderation is at least honest it ain't gonna happen and I will torch this place to the ground by whatever means neccessary if it isn't already there.



275. Post 10558666 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: empowering on February 23, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
Funny.... the other day after pages of troll shyte from the sockpuppet army

I posted this




To which I got a message from the mods :

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Hilarious... of course the troll messages I was referring to... all still there...

Go figure.

Apparently it is off topic to refer to the fact this thread has been kidnapped by paid trolls... and the mods are totally alright with it. 

Sigh.

Ah well, tbh I am not going to lose any sleep over it.

Do your worst trolls, or your best or whatever it is...



Strange huh?



276. Post 10558734 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 23, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
This thread used to be informative & an enjoyable read.
It's a total embarrassment now.

Do mods exist on this forum?

There is but they seem to have an anti-bitcoiner agenda by deleting posts from long time members in good standing and trust and upholding trollish slander from nefarious neer-do-wells.  I wouldn't be surprised if the sock trolls ARE the mods in this case.

I'd like to see it improve but until moderation is at least honest it ain't gonna happen and I will torch this place to the ground by whatever means neccessary if it isn't already there.

I've just reported a post to test your theory.

It contained homophobia Wink

See if they remove it.

It isn't a theory, hypothesis maybe, but thanks for testing. I just said I wouldn't be surprised, that's not an affirmative statement.



277. Post 10558773 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 22, 2015, 11:10:57 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that

The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.
 



278. Post 10558804 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 23, 2015, 08:16:40 PM

^Stop spinning this web of lies & just admit you're a liar, liar! Angry
Edit re. boldface: I never reported any of your crap to moderators, you're nowhere as relevant as you think.

Sure, it was probably just a moderator with not much else to do that picked my picture out of the shitstorm of crude and demeaning posts to delete on their own initiative. Right Roll Eyes

I think we all have a pretty good idea of who's lying Cheesy

If I can prove that I didn't report you & you're just being your lying paranoid fagit self, will you publicly admit to your faggotry & never post here again, liar?

What's wrong, lying liar, got cold feets?




lel, someones got their panties in a bunch. Can't take the heat huh? Cheesy



279. Post 10559093 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 23, 2015, 08:25:41 PM

Resorting to transgenderphobic jokes, Bitcoin paedophile?   You ain't got no scruples at all, do you, lying pervert? Angry

Oh quit it with feigning some sort of desire to help anyone but yourself you greasy fiat salesman.

Quote from: NotLambchop on August 31, 2014, 03:42:59 PM

...
I'm not even a nice guy.  I'm not concerned about teh n00bs, but rather how their goofy self-mutilation affects Bitcoin as a whole, and how this public perception affects the value of my investment.  I don't even particularly care if stupid n00bs lose money, as long as they do it discretely, quietly, not center-stage under the spotlight.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm looking out for myself.  Just like a guy quietly moving serious weight wouldn't let a punkass crack dealer set up on his stoop to push bunk.  Hint: it's not because he's a nice guy worried about crackheads not getting their due bang for the buck.


TL;DR: Enlightened self-interest.
If some noobs get schooled in the process?  Gravy!




280. Post 10559145 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: plasticAiredale on February 23, 2015, 08:24:21 PM

Sure, it was probably just a moderator with not much else to do that picked my picture out of the shitstorm of crude and demeaning posts to delete on their own initiative. Right Roll Eyes

I think we all have a pretty good idea of who's lying Cheesy


I too have had a post deleted once or twice for no apparent reason. They only common thread I could find was that they don't like it when you post only a picture with no text. It was somewhat annoying to have what I considered an on-topic picture deleted, especially because this place is such a lassie-fair shitfest. But whatever, it is what it is.

Incredible! What is the reason for this? It'd be great to have an explanation from Blitz.



281. Post 10559391 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Nice organic and healthy 3% rise this past 7 days. Looking good bitcoiners! Cheesy




282. Post 10559419 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Did someone say something or was that a fart?  Angry




283. Post 10559727 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

NotLambChop, You are on my ignore but I'm sure by the turbo posts I'm seeing from your handle, you are frothed up in a hot mess again. Don't you think it's time to take a break, maybe puff a jay and just chill? I worry for your health little buddy. Maybe go back to school and try a new career? It's not that important what people say about you on the internet to get so worked up. I suppose you could just put me on ignore, but it's hard isn't it? Cheesy



284. Post 10560383 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

An influential, impassioned, and highly intelligent bitcoiner is working to bring the light of reason to all things concerning child abuse. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUwZY7RCZnS2e5-vjaA7wSNw

But this doesn't play into the scam that ElectricMucus, NotLambChop, et al is trying to play on unsuspecting newb enthusiasts to get their coins. If you were wondering, that's why they won't mention him. Possibly they were victims of child abuse themselves and it has unfortunately promoted a deep sense of schadenfreude as we can see. I feel bad for you poor chaps, don't take it out on bitcoin.



285. Post 10560736 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 23, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
Rhonda Rousey is one of the biggest stars and draws of the show. She beautiful, intelligent, and tough as fucking nails. A good role model for empowering women IMO.



And yet the toughest guy in any town with a population over 5,000 could beat her to a pulp. It's like being the midget who's best as basketball.

IMHO, a woman who can cook is more sexy. Why only value women who are good at men's stuff? It's really hard to be a good mom and a good wife, judging the the divorce rates and the character of this last generation of teenagers. We should appreciate the one's who do that job well and maybe that would incentivise the rest to try harder and quit wasting time trying to be badasses or things they probably don't have aptitude for and probably wouldn't enjoy as much.



I'll bet Rhonda can cook too. I'd marry her in a heartbeat and I KNOW she could still beat your firefighting redneck ass any day. Cheesy

Seriously though, I don't think you understand sports or MMA very well when you make those statements. Rhonda was an Olympic medalist judoka... and highly decorated world gold medalist. She is an athlete of high caliber and is now a complete MMA fighter who would knock the absolute fuck out of most tough guys in every city if they weren't near her skill level and training like a beast. Even male MMA fighters of her weight category would have a slim chance unless they were also of her caliber athlete.  

Big local tough guys with little training do horribly against much smaller UFC fighters as you can see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9JpeKKBScA

So why would it be any different for her?

She is exceptional though and many women do like to cook, iron, be soft and feminine, and suck a boner like there's no tomorrow. I really like that in a woman as well. Cheesy



286. Post 10560792 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 23, 2015, 05:39:44 PM
I believe that it is not a coincidence that there are so few women who are "into" bitcoin.  Grin

bitcoin or computer science or engineering or any of the stuff that separates us from primitive subsistence-level savages.

When the first computer science courses opened in Brazil, women were often more that half of the students, and the brightest students were often women.  Over the years the proportion has dropped to the same level as in electrical and civil engineering, that is 5--10% or maybe less.

We had endless debates about why women don't apply to computer science anymore, with no conclusions.  It is not because computer science is "difficult". It is actually one of the professions where even dumb people can succeed.  There are plenty of women in medicine, chemistry, mathematics -- where you really need a functioning brain to work.  I taught intro computing to chemical engineering freshmen last semester, and to my surprise the class was again half women, and again some of the best students were women.

It must be some subtle thing in the popular image of the computer professional.  Perhaps the idea that he is an antisocial nerd who hardly leaves his mom's basement --- a way of life which may appeal to many adolescent men, but not to adolescent women.

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women [ ... ] living in houses they didn't build, talking on phones they didn't invent, typing on computers they didn't program, driving cars they didn't design, going to stores they don't manage to spend money they didn't earn.

And you still think that men are more intelligent than women?  Cheesy

You can't even divide it up between genders like that, and I think BJA is a little off base there. We all have a relatively wide range of biological individuality (Except for maybe the Winkelvii Smiley )  Women tend toward different types of intelligence and other qualities than men as a group for whatever reason and we seem better off as a network for it. Women seem to tend toward social, emotional, and creative intelligence and men tend toward logical, rational, and physical intelligence but those are only tendencies and, again, wide ranges can be expected in any population.  Intelligence is a tough quantitative analysis to make and the tools are still crude at best.

It is an often repeated myth to say that all bitcoiners are men, white, etc. etc.  It's a pretty diverse group but of course the bell curve does lean heavily to the white male geek stereotype to the delight of naysayers who use that as some sort of racist, sexist argument against bitcoin tech. I reject that thinking and think some people should just get a life and go do something productive instead.  

  Case in point, it was only a small, hardcore group of men who were the initial enthusiasts for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. They were so hardcore, they would go train and fight for next to nothing in pay, fans would travel for miles to see the shows, etc.  UFC almost was shut down and experienced many times when either regulatory bodies or (John McCain) politiciansa called for bans.  There were less women in support of it than there is for bitcoin and most opposed it as violence.  Cooler heads prevailed though and now we are at a point of mass adoption where Rhonda Rousey is one of the biggest stars and draws of the show. She beautiful, intelligent, and tough as fucking nails. A good role model for empowering women IMO.








UFC is the fastest growing sport in the world now and that type of event only happened in Brazil a little over 20 years ago when I first found out about it and started watching and training MMA.  Bitcoin shows many of the same developments as the UFC in its early adoption on the way to mainstreaming.

I know you are likely busy Jorge but didn't get any comment yet. I enjoy reading your posts and you do have some insights worth more than a cursory glance. Could you see the parallels between the adoption of the UFC to mainstream and the mass adoption of our favorite "coin"? Maybe you have been looking at this thing more from a computer science aspect and missing out on the social phenomena?



287. Post 10560858 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 24, 2015, 12:14:58 AM


I'll bet Rhonda can cook too. I'd marry her in a heartbeat and I KNOW she could still beat your firefighting redneck ass any day. Cheesy


Well she certainly can't act. Did you see expendables III?  I don't fight women. I fight fire. If you're being attacked by ninjas, call Rhonda. If your house is burning down, call me.

Didn't watch the movie, I have little patience for Hollywood shit. I wouldn't call you for a fire though, I'm a long ways from you. Cheesy

P.S. Who would someone in your area call if they were attacked by ninjas while the house was on fire? Not you?



288. Post 10560952 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: inca on February 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM


I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.



289. Post 10561000 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2015, 12:41:18 AM


I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

What do you know for sure or are you guessing?



290. Post 10561069 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 24, 2015, 12:51:48 AM


I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

What do you know for sure or are you guessing?

His cause has a lot of sympathy. That's all I'll say

Sounds shifty as fuck. What kind of degenerates are these people anyway?



291. Post 10561981 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Maximum_Overderp! on February 24, 2015, 01:53:46 AM
Wow!

I'm fairly new to this whole thing and just joined today after buying some bitcoin.

I read through a bunch of this thread and holy shit!
 I'm bullish after reading what I just did from here!!
 favorite posts... this one ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10547040#msg10547040

and this one -----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10550051#msg10550051

There were a bunch inbetween that were good too but silverfortune seems to kick troll ass . It looks to me like the trolls here are trying to keep the price down by ruining sentiment in this thread at the behest of poweful investors.  I'm going to hold for now thanks haha

It's silverfuture thanks, and don't get too carried away with conspiracies there buddy. Cheesy

Don't gamble with more than you can afford to lose!





292. Post 10562133 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Edit ^^^ That's the one. The CP obsessed lambsock is really really grasping at straws of attention for survival.

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 24, 2015, 03:35:29 AM
Could you see the parallels between the adoption of the UFC to mainstream and the mass adoption of our favorite "coin"? Maybe you have been looking at this thing more from a computer science aspect and missing out on the social phenomena?

The only parallels I can see is that I don't appreciate either.  Cheesy

The only fighting sport I can waste time watching is Sumo, because my Japanese mother-in-law (83 years old, not even 5 feet tall) does not miss one championship on TV. So I sort of learned to appreciate it, sort of.

Fair enough, you know you've been put to pasture when you have tenure and the best things in life are Sumo and chillin' with the Mother-in-law. Amirite? Cheesy



293. Post 10562206 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 24, 2015, 03:47:33 AM
Fair enough, you know you've been put to pasture when you have tenure and the best things in life are Sumo and chillin' with the Mother-in-law. Amirite? Cheesy

I know nothing about you, but, for some reason, I am sure that I would not want exchange my life with yours...  Wink

Likewise Smiley 



294. Post 10567404 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: macsga on February 24, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Maybe you guys have missed this article from the Guardian...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/22/can-a-parallel-digital-currency-solve-the-greek-financial-crisis

TL;DR
Varoufakis may have considered a parallel "bitcoin-like" tax currency.
If things go badly for Greece, finance minister Yanis Varoufakis has said he would consider creating a parallel digital currency, using Bitcoin’s digital security and transparency, but doing the exact opposite of what the money fundamentalists intend.

Well, it won't be boring... Grin

I hope he doesn't try to make a competing alt to bitcoin. Possibly bullish for bitcoin in the short term but I think that would be bad for Greece in the longer term when considering this: http://www.joecoin.com/2015/02/crypto-20-and-other-misconceptions.html



295. Post 10567724 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: AtheistAKASaneBrain on February 24, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Im going to develop priapism in a couple of years looking back at all the no-coiners vomiting against Bitcoin in threads.


Put that woody away!  They aren't no-coiners. They are working scammers.

Quote from: silverfuture on February 17, 2015, 02:09:01 PM
Good morning gentletrolls. Don't forget to punch in...



NotSheepDog



296. Post 10568050 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: oda.krell on February 24, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
@silverfuture I see what you're doing there. And I like it.

Thanks , Scammers really bug me for some reason  Huh






297. Post 10568416 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 24, 2015, 04:56:19 PM
@silverfuture I see what you're doing there. And I like it.

Thanks , Scammers really bug me for some reason  Huh





The cool thing about leaving people shit trust is they can do it right back Smiley

Yes they can but it is inconsequential and has no net effect when the feedback is from known scammers with untrusted feedback.








298. Post 10568518 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 24, 2015, 05:19:07 PM
...
Yes they can but it is inconsequential and has no net effect when the feedback is from known scammers with untrusted feedback.
...

You should read what I left you tho...



I did and had a good laugh at your cringe worthy desperation.

Please stop embarrassing yourself. It's ugly to watch.

Quote from: pandacoin on February 24, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
Good luck with your trolling dudes, nobody give a shit about you. Ignored.




299. Post 10568701 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 23, 2015, 08:46:06 PM

Resorting to transgenderphobic jokes, Bitcoin paedophile?   You ain't got no scruples at all, do you, lying pervert? Angry

Oh quit it with feigning some sort of desire to help anyone but yourself you greasy fiat salesman.


...
I'm not even a nice guy.  I'm not concerned about teh n00bs, but rather how their goofy self-mutilation affects Bitcoin as a whole, and how this public perception affects the value of my investment.  I don't even particularly care if stupid n00bs lose money, as long as they do it discretely, quietly, not center-stage under the spotlight.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm looking out for myself.  Just like a guy quietly moving serious weight wouldn't let a punkass crack dealer set up on his stoop to push bunk.  Hint: it's not because he's a nice guy worried about crackheads not getting their due bang for the buck.


TL;DR: Enlightened self-interest.
If some noobs get schooled in the process?  Gravy!



Quote from: silverfuture on February 24, 2015, 12:46:09 AM


I reported several child porn references to the mods by clicking report and by msg. Result : nothing whatsoever.

Yeah it is a fine line between free speech and censorship. But this is a bitcoin forum. Am I the only person who thinks NLC posting from an alt called 'childpronz' is grounds for being removed from the forum? This place is plumbing new lows.

Strange. I can confirm and have proof that moderators ARE removing content when it criticizes NotLambChop.

He has friends in high places. Surprised?

What do you know for sure or are you guessing?

Quote from: silverfuture on February 23, 2015, 08:51:29 PM

Sure, it was probably just a moderator with not much else to do that picked my picture out of the shitstorm of crude and demeaning posts to delete on their own initiative. Right Roll Eyes

I think we all have a pretty good idea of who's lying Cheesy


I too have had a post deleted once or twice for no apparent reason. They only common thread I could find was that they don't like it when you post only a picture with no text. It was somewhat annoying to have what I considered an on-topic picture deleted, especially because this place is such a lassie-fair shitfest. But whatever, it is what it is.

Incredible! What is the reason for this? It'd be great to have an explanation from Blitz.



300. Post 10568863 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: sporket on February 24, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
Pedophiles?  In my Bitcoin community?  Link?






301. Post 10573434 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on February 25, 2015, 12:05:00 AM
Is someone talking?

If an ignored troll opens his word-hole on the forum, does he make a sound??

Sometimes pure gingivitis leak out of the cracks, through the quote function and stink up the room from time to time. I apologize for any recent leaks I may have caused.

The price, she's going steady and boring. I like it.

I had a super day today and got some awesome news as far as career advancement goes and met some important local contacts through my network. Went on a nice nature hike in the sunshine... it felt great to be alive, one of those peak moments.



302. Post 10573439 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: DaRude on February 25, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
No one talking about BTC421 market buy on finex closely followed by a BTC438 market sell? Is someone just generating income for finex?

Traders only care about the value going up or down, why would they comment on flat prices? It just doesn't give them the adrenaline pump that they crave.



303. Post 10573781 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Bozuatle on February 25, 2015, 03:58:07 AM
/snip

This failure thinks heīs on a team building camp and not on a thread where we are talking about the newest technology that takes your money in 10 minutes and then gives them back to you at a 80% loss after one year.

Don't try to sugarcoat things here, you can take an 80% loss in days to weeks.

Unlike other commodities like oil?..oops. Or maybe stocks? ...oops.  How about fiat oops Wiemar, oops Zimbabwe Cheesy

The nice thing about bitcoin is it's slow steady growth with it's violent upswings and resultant bear slides whenever the market gets a little cray cray. This provides opportunities abound for anyone with the vision to see and a stomach for risk. The next wildly kooky market action is coming, but probably not soon. Patience is a virtue.



304. Post 10573931 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlackSpidy on February 25, 2015, 05:03:23 AM
Well, OBVIOUSLY, if bitcoins are below their all time high price... it is a complete and utter failure. Roll Eyes

Only zero is death and anything more than that eventually means moon and beyond. Critical mass right before widespread mainstreaming is almost always a volatile and uncertain time in network adoption. We're there now and the past year has been great for bitcoin. One thing for sure, 2015 is going to be an interesting year for bitcoin watchers.
 



305. Post 10573939 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Bozuatle on February 25, 2015, 05:12:29 AM
Well, OBVIOUSLY, if bitcoins are below their all time high price... it is a complete and utter failure. Roll Eyes

LambChop has warned me numerous times that Bitcoin is going to $0.00, He is a professional so don't argue with him. LambChop is here to help us and show us the errs of our ways.

Who is LambChop?



306. Post 10576301 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Good Morning Gentlemens!! The mood is delightful in here today.

Echo chamber? Trolls? Tides turning?   You don't say!








307. Post 10576402 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 25, 2015, 11:40:05 AM
Wall Street, bitcoin. Bitcoin, wall street.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ex-goldman-director-launches-bitcoin-derivatives-brokerage-2015-02-25-5203121

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The platform aims to appeal to sophisticated investors and is backed by a high-profile team of experienced professionals from top investment banks and regulatory advisors. "The bitcoin space still lacks professional, reliable marketplaces, and this is what we provide. We apply the same standards in terms of risk management, compliance and reporting as you would see in the traditional finance space," said Timo Schlaefer, Co-Founder and CEO.

Making it easier for wall street hedge funds to gain bitcoin exposure using all of their traditional clearing systems etc.

This should be as good a reason as any to launch this mofo

The good stuff keeps piling on board the cargo cars. It'll seem like one event when we start heading moonward just like it seemed like it was cyprus  once or like how thick-as-a brick jarheads claim willy was the sole reason for the last moonshot, but it will be an accumulation of factors that will leave unsuspecting jaws gaping like derp aliens once again.



308. Post 10576550 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 25, 2015, 12:01:04 PM
        Enough, Creepy Bitcoiner!

   Children Are Not Your Playthings!

*Good morning, gentlemen.

Spoken with all the integrity and veritas of a Catholic priest Cheesy



309. Post 10576661 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 25, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
you annoying bulls babbling about shorts and moon after a 1~2 $ rise...

50 k of old coins will hit open market soon, so you better pump this shit hard if you dont want to see 2 k batches of coins going for 150 $ or under!

You see the writing on the wall, you just like being cynical. Or you're just scared of seeming naive. Man up and take the plunge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHb2g1Tm4E

He's pissing his pants like a kid in the trenches. Time to man up!

Don't miss the rocket ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8oB2APysg



310. Post 10576800 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 25, 2015, 12:36:06 PM
you annoying bulls babbling about shorts and moon after a 1~2 $ rise...

50 k of old coins will hit open market soon, so you better pump this shit hard if you dont want to see 2 k batches of coins going for 150 $ or under!

You see the writing on the wall, you just like being cynical. Or you're just scared of seeming naive. Man up and take the plunge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHb2g1Tm4E

He's pissing his pants like a kid in the trenches. Time to man up!

Don't miss the rocket ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8oB2APysg

Such optimism. Oh! To be young again

 What are you, like ....60 there gramps? Depends?



311. Post 10576990 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on August 31, 2014, 03:42:59 PM

...
I'm not even a nice guy.  I'm not concerned about teh n00bs, but rather how their goofy self-mutilation affects Bitcoin as a whole, and how this public perception affects the value of my investment.  I don't even particularly care if stupid n00bs lose money, as long as they do it discretely, quietly, not center-stage under the spotlight.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm looking out for myself.  Just like a guy quietly moving serious weight wouldn't let a punkass crack dealer set up on his stoop to push bunk.  Hint: it's not because he's a nice guy worried about crackheads not getting their due bang for the buck.


TL;DR: Enlightened self-interest.
If some noobs get schooled in the process?  Gravy!


Wait for it.....




























Bullish!!!! Cheesy



312. Post 10577558 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 25, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
you annoying bulls babbling about shorts and moon after a 1~2 $ rise...

50 k of old coins will hit open market soon, so you better pump this shit hard if you dont want to see 2 k batches of coins going for 150 $ or under!

You see the writing on the wall, you just like being cynical. Or you're just scared of seeming naive. Man up and take the plunge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHb2g1Tm4E

He's pissing his pants like a kid in the trenches. Time to man up!

Don't miss the rocket ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8oB2APysg

Anyone else see the problem with the association the Europol has tried  to establish between with CP on fears it is "anonymous"? ( Kind of like NLC does..  Coincidence?)

1. It didn't help Ross Ulbrict. Why was he so easy to nab but child porn lovers (who should be a much higher priority than online banned plant bazars) are so goddamned highly skilled and elusive?

2. Evil people flock towards and love money...who doesn't? So when has this ever changed? Was the Drachma of Alexandria responsible for the buggering Pederasty of boys in ancient Greece?

3. It doesn't matter at all in terms of harm to bitcoin.  Image matters to a centralized business or political model but not to a decentralized network. If bitcoin is going to survive it needs these attacks. Programmable money on a verifiable open ledger IS the killer app. The open ledger allows for identity verification without third part intervention or leak of personal data to criminals and may end up creating a more open society with much more privacy and safety from our children. More killer apps are coming.

 As a parent, I find all the silly pedo talk here highly unsavoury and unnecessary but I guess the light of reason is better than whatever the loser trollfreaks are doing lately Roll Eyes

How 'bout them walls? Cheesy  






313. Post 10577727 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Did someone fart in here? I thought I heard something.



314. Post 10577892 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 25, 2015, 02:29:47 PM



Short term movements are happening on teh wallZ  Cut your loosez!!







315. Post 10578233 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 06, 2015, 05:11:28 PM


Me?  Insecure about craving the D?




Sometimes, the past comes back to bite you on the ass. Like that time 5 years ago when you didn't fire up that bitcoin program and mine some bitcoins on your laptop.  Or buy them at $2 after everyone who wasn't half brain dead zombie found out about it? Or admitting to craving the "young D" on a forum?




316. Post 10578715 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 25, 2015, 03:29:48 PM

For god's sake, silverfuture. Here we are. You got me into your house. You give me a drink. You... put on music. Now you start opening up your personal life to me and tell me your husband won't be home for hours.
silverfuture, you're trying to seduce me Angry

Dirty LIttle Secret Lyrics

from Versions (Rmxs)
"Dirty LIttle Secret" is track #17 on the album Versions (Rmxs). It was written by Mclachlan, Sarah Ann.

If I had the chance
Love, I would not hesitate
To tell you all the things I never said before
Don't tell me it's too late

'Cause I've relied on my illusions
To keep me warm at night
But I denied in my capacity to love
I am willing to give up this fight

I've been up all night drinking
To drown my sorrow down
Nothing seems to help me since you went away
I'm so tired of this town

Where every tongue is wagging
When every back is turned
They're telling secrets that should never be revealed
There's nothing to be gained from this but disaster

Here's a good one
Did you hear about my friend?
He's embarrassed to be seen now
Because we, oh no, be seen

If I had the chance
Love, you know I would not hesitate
To tell you all the things I never said before
Don't tell me it's too late

'Cause I've relied on my illusions
To keep me warm at night
But I denied in my capacity to love
I am willing to give up this fight

Oh, I am willing to give up this fight

Songwriters
MCLACHLAN, SARAH ANN






317. Post 10578759 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: oda.krell on February 25, 2015, 03:39:50 PM

Sweet. Looks like the trolls are out in full force again today.

I mean, I get what their general strategy is here, but didn't they learn anything from 2011/2012?

Forum looked like a minefield then as well (that's my impression by going back to the old pages... wasn't actually a member then), but ultimately, forum impact is limited, and once the ball starts rolling, no amount of bearish spamming here helps against it.*



* Same for the bull spam of course: once a correction is underway, no amount of their starry eyed projections will matter much.

Ding ding ding!  We have a winnna! +1

Edit: difference is that the permabulls (or just people who see the tech and economic principles for what they are) are always here (not necessarily in this thread, though), the bears slink off for hibernation during big up moves.



318. Post 10578927 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Dilla on February 25, 2015, 03:36:15 PM
This thread isn't even useful anymore, just full of trolls trolling one another..

You mean the entire speculation forum?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M7qNuH59Uk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnwED28tfU



319. Post 10578966 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: WeltMaster on February 25, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frIUgilfsWA

HERE WE GO GUYS

Whooooo....woooo!



320. Post 10579071 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 25, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
1. Ignore FACTS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10578135#msg10578135
2. Remind everyone how well your bubble pumped (a bubble pumped a few times before bursting, ORLY?) in the good ol' days that are long gone.
3. Claim that the infidels not glorifying a pump&dump simply "missed the train".
4. ? ? ?
5. Profit!

Facts lel. Where did you get your edumacation degree? Sesame Street? 




The plan has been laid out for you newbie. Are you too dubm to leern trader genius?

Quote from: silverfuture on February 22, 2015, 11:10:57 PM


The beartrolls are scammers of the highest order. Worse than neobee or a host of other failed or scammy bitcoin ventures and are just as fraudulent in trying to scare emotionally or financially weak people out of their coins. At least the outright scams asked nicely instead of using fear or emotional engineering.  They lie about their objectives and try to obfuscate the truth by making it seem like their motivations for posting are out of moral duty to save fools from losing their money when in fact they are not ethical agents, just greedy book talkers or seriously confused dipshits

The short term price movements mean little in the face of what bitcoin has done in a very short time. Amateur hour is pretty much over. Stronger hands that are capable and ethically motivated are gearing up the engines and the real crooks are looking to game or exploit this experiment (which is expected and necessary).

However bad the first wave has been (Hello MagicalTux!), they did bootstrap a whole transparent world value ledger and multibillion dollar value economy to this point and must be lauded for their fearlessness of living on the lunatic fringe that also happen to be the spearhead of innovation. Here's to the ones crazy enough to think they can change the world.

TL;DR for newbies : Trollbear trader scammers want to cheat you out of your chance of a decent future stake in the most exciting technology/economy shift since the internet itself.  Don't be stupid and put yourself at risk in the short term markets and risk another gox, wait for legitimate and secure exchanges or even better just spend them directly when it is ubiquitous. Do this instead FTW!:

1. Buy as much as is comfortable and healthy for your budget at as close to the bottom of  long term bear cycles as possible.
 
2. Put duplicate private keys in cold storage in multiple safe locations and forget about them for a while.

3. learn and grow as an individual learning about economics, ethics, business, blockchain tech, etc. and develop your self discipline so when you have a lot of wealth you can use it wisely instead of what often happens to lottery winners, successful thieves or scammers, or other instantly rich, soon to be poor folks who often get very sick from not knowing how to handle all the stresses and temptations of managing wealth.

4. Have a long term vision and set goals for it, filling in the short term steps and details along the way.

5. Profit and enjoy your wealth and life with people who love you properly, building good things to exchange and taking on challenges to the benefit of yourself and your fellow humans.
 



321. Post 10579259 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 25, 2015, 04:34:43 PM
1. Ignore FACTS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10578135#msg10578135
2. Remind everyone how well your bubble pumped (a bubble pumped a few times before bursting, ORLY?) in the good ol' days that are long gone.
3. Claim that the infidels not glorifying a pump&dump simply "missed the train".
4. ? ? ?
5. Profit!

Facts lel. Where did you get your edumacation degree? Sesame Street?  
Your post is walls of text full of personal opinions and other garbage. I just quoted the Boston Fed researchers from that article.
Since oda.krell was talking it as a bullish sign and that bitcoin is a great investment, I simply showed him (with quotes taken from the article) that they actually claim the opposite and said that bitcoin is "unlikely to succeed"  Undecided

Excuse me.  It looked to me like kindergarten crayon letters the way you formatted the quotes.

Let me guess, they love the technology but something other than the leading network is going to prevail and is going to be better because they are in charge? Cause they've done so well with fiat so far right?




322. Post 10579447 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotHatinJustTrollin on February 25, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
1. Ignore FACTS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg10578135#msg10578135
2. Remind everyone how well your bubble pumped (a bubble pumped a few times before bursting, ORLY?) in the good ol' days that are long gone.
3. Claim that the infidels not glorifying a pump&dump simply "missed the train".
4. ? ? ?
5. Profit!

Facts lel. Where did you get your edumacation degree? Sesame Street?  
Your post is walls of text full of personal opinions and other garbage. I just quoted the Boston Fed researchers from that article.
Since oda.krell was talking it as a bullish sign and that bitcoin is a great investment, I simply showed him (with quotes taken from the article) that they actually claim the opposite and said that bitcoin is "unlikely to succeed"  Undecided

Excuse me.  It looked to me like kindergarten crayon letters the way you formatted the quotes.

Let me guess, they love the technology but something other than the leading network is going to prevail and is going to be better because they are in charge? Cause they've done so well with fiat so far right?


Can you move fiat currencies with the bitcoin network? Did you read the article? Did you see what they talked about? Did you see that "bullish on the technology" actually meant that it is going to spur innovation while better technologies are created or adopted and not that the bitcoin network or bitcoin the currency is going to be adopted in any way?
No, you didn't, you just read "bullish" on a coindesk article title and started jerking off.

Keep ignoring facts bruh  Undecided

"Cause they've done so well with fiat so far right?"
^You are just an insane man rambling on the subway  Undecided

Why so agitated chum? I did read the article and there is nothing you could possibly bring to my attention that I didn't know as far as facts about bitcoin or the Fed goes.

You are sounding a little shrill lately.

I'd recommend time off work and some decent rest before studying up on markets, networks, and other tough things to comprehend. You'll feel better and learn so you can share more good things with your fellow life forms instead of whatever it is you do now.  Undecided



323. Post 10579544 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 25, 2015, 05:09:16 PM
How can you gentlemen live with yourselves, knowing that your little "hobby" supports TERROR?



$500,000 worth of mdma at street prices is Australia. ... whats that then 500g?




ha ha good one.

Yeah the ozzies pay through the eyeballs for anything imported or not easy to knock up. Tis why meth (yuk) is so popular over there and NZ, easyish enough for the gangs to knock it up.

Doubt that's Australian prices, probably just you Bitcoiners getting charged x10-20 moar, because Bitcoin!


...
I'm not even a nice guy.  I'm not concerned about teh n00bs, but rather how their goofy self-mutilation affects Bitcoin as a whole, and how this public perception affects the value of my investment.  I don't even particularly care if stupid n00bs lose money, as long as they do it discretely, quietly, not center-stage under the spotlight.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm looking out for myself.  Just like a guy quietly moving serious weight wouldn't let a punkass crack dealer set up on his stoop to push bunk.  Hint: it's not because he's a nice guy worried about crackheads not getting their due bang for the buck.


TL;DR: Enlightened self-interest.
If some noobs get schooled in the process?  Gravy!


Typical trollbear  Huh



324. Post 10579964 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 25, 2015, 05:16:09 PM

Quote from: silverfuture


...
I'm not even a nice guy.  I'm not concerned about teh n00bs, but rather how their goofy self-mutilation affects Bitcoin as a whole, and how this public perception affects the value of my investment.  I don't even particularly care if stupid n00bs lose money, as long as they do it discretely, quietly, not center-stage under the spotlight.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm looking out for myself.  Just like a guy quietly moving serious weight wouldn't let a punkass crack dealer set up on his stoop to push bunk.  Hint: it's not because he's a nice guy worried about crackheads not getting their due bang for the buck.


TL;DR: Enlightened self-interest.
If some noobs get schooled in the process?  Gravy!



Typical trollbear  Huh

Not sure why you keep quoting that.  Yeah, educating you (the [not so] great [but definitely] unwashed) coincides with my self-interest.  You should be dropping to your knees and thanking me.
Why didn't ur moms teach you manners, Bitcoiners?

I keep posting it because it reveals your true objectives and personality, morality or ethics be damned, while you profess everywhere that your scammy behavior is just you trying to uncover scams or pedo or whatever and filling your scuzzy pockets with pocket lint cheap coinz. You are just protecting your "investment" in fiat and the central bank enabling war machines.

What agency do you work for?  Undecided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qv5PuPtuRA




325. Post 10580799 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on February 25, 2015, 05:46:12 PM

Considering bitcoin is irreversible and all, good luck with actual consumer protection.

OMG! It's irreversible like the cash you pay in a brick and mortar! There is NO WAY consumer protection could exist with bitcoin.  

Oh wait!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mainstream-consumer-protection-meets-bitcoin-100900458.html

Quote
February 13th, 2014 -- While Bitcoin has been exploding worldwide, many have argued that for Bitcoin to reach the next level of mainstream adoption there needs to be a mechanism to protect Bitcoin users from scams and fraudsters. New innovative open source start-up Bitrated is doing just that – bringing the standards of consumer protection customers have come to expect from legacy payment systems to Bitcoiners worldwide. In a world first Bitrated offers consumer protection for the safe purchasing of Bitcoin and other goods with Bitcoin, an open arbitration marketplace, buyer fraud protection mechanisms, niche experts and more.

Are you even aware of what day of the week it is? Huh

No wonder you are a wanderer  Undecided



326. Post 10581070 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on February 25, 2015, 07:08:39 PM

Considering bitcoin is irreversible and all, good luck with actual consumer protection.

OMG! It's irreversible like the cash you pay in a brick and mortar! There is NO WAY consumer protection could exist with bitcoin.  

Oh wait!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mainstream-consumer-protection-meets-bitcoin-100900458.html

Quote
February 13th, 2014 -- While Bitcoin has been exploding worldwide, many have argued that for Bitcoin to reach the next level of mainstream adoption there needs to be a mechanism to protect Bitcoin users from scams and fraudsters. New innovative open source start-up Bitrated is doing just that – bringing the standards of consumer protection customers have come to expect from legacy payment systems to Bitcoiners worldwide. In a world first Bitrated offers consumer protection for the safe purchasing of Bitcoin and other goods with Bitcoin, an open arbitration marketplace, buyer fraud protection mechanisms, niche experts and more.

Are you even aware of what day of the week it is? Huh

No wonder you are a wanderer  Undecided
Calm down, cultist. You are a little nervous.

I read this thing and I see "trusted third party". I thought bitcoin was supposed to avoid those evil ugly "trusted third parties" satoshi was talking about in his paper and that this was the whole narrative for bitcoin paranoid libertarians.

Now you are saying that trust is necessary?

You have to trust in third parties with fiat both at the consumer protection level and at the base monetary inflation levels.

I guess you didn't read well RE: Bitcoin.... comprehension isn't your strong suit?

Quote
Bitrated’s arbitrators are not required for releasing the Bitcoin payment. Due to the use of multi-signature Bitcoin transactions, if the transaction ends well, both parties can easily release the funds without any intervention from the arbitrator. Arbitrators also never have full control over the funds. They can only move the funds with the permission of either the buyer or the seller, and cannot control them in any way without their approval.

Instead of using a traditional escrow payment holding and release system, Bitrated utilizes Bitcoin’s inbuilt multi-signature transactions feature. This means that the strict escrow regulations, licensing requirements and associated high costs are not applied: making it possible for anyone to offer arbitration services, and not just large companies as was the case until now with fiat money. Individuals with specific knowledge about a specific market, such as software development, can offer arbitration services for that specific market; having the ability to use their knowledge to resolve disputes. This is not possible today with legacy payment platforms.





Multisig, open source, software means you don't have to trust third parties for consumer protection and have a choice of  arbiters to dispute for vastly less cost than we currently spend on consumer protection.... AND you have a money that is not fundamentally controlled by a centralized third party. Inflation is known and perfectly predictable, and security is tighter than a drum.

Edit: Nice thing about bitcoin is that it offers merchant protection that the legacy systems just can't seem to provide. What is wrong with your google?



327. Post 10582034 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):



 Grin



328. Post 10582697 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 25, 2015, 09:40:46 PM


My God Lamby, you're suffering from Alt-member overflow!  Stick to one identity for chrissakes, you might forget which one you really are.



It has to use alts to punch through the great ignore firewall that keeps it from getting the attention it so desperately craves.

 



329. Post 10582731 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

The energy is changing in here. It's like a momentum shift.



330. Post 10583182 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: empowering on February 25, 2015, 09:25:24 PM
Now we have even banks seeking for new employees whit knowledge in crypto. That is huuuuuuuuuuge.

Morgan is looking for jackals.

That's the thing. It's not really impressive that these a-holes want a piece of the pie. It's just nice to see the network growing as it should.



331. Post 10587912 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Best comments from Matonis' tweet feed RE: Greece and Bitcoin:




332. Post 10587952 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 26, 2015, 11:46:57 AM

1) I'm sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.
2) There are very good reasons why that applies to personal debt and very good reasons why they don't apply to public debt. A country is not a person. It doesn't die. If and when it is dissolved, vanquished, conquered, then it is reasonable to ask where the debt goes.


But yes, there is a lot of risk involved with adding to an already huge debt. But sometimes the alternatives are worse. There was no reason to keep adding to the deficit after the dot-com crash of 2001 had been dealt with. So from 2002/2003-2008 both congress and the president should have focused on turning the deficit into a surplus. But instead they decided to gamble the nations future on an oxymoron called big-government conservatism. Kicking the dollar and replacing it with Bitcoin is not going to make republicans (both voters and politicians) less stupid. That requires education, publicly funded education. Even those on the right should recognize this.


1) no problem.
2) a government is not a country.

I'm not conservative (except culturally). I don't want to end the dollar. I want to end the forced use of the dollar by ending legal tender laws. Bitcoin may not ever catch on, but we should be free to use whatever form of money a buyer and seller agrees on.

Education is important, but politicians, bureaucrats and teachers don't have the incentives to do it well, which is why the don't do it well. Public choice economics predicts this and test scores confirm it. Online resources like The Khan Academy is free and take no tax money. That's not the whole solution, but part of it.  https://www.khanacademy.org/

Well said BJA.  Education certainly does not need to be publicly funded and controlled by bureaucrats to be effective or accessible at all. Why does this myth exist in spite of the myriad evidence against it?



333. Post 10588063 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Globb0 on February 26, 2015, 12:25:02 PM
Best comments from Matonis' tweet feed RE: Greece and Bitcoin:



I suppose if a transparent mechanism replaced a it might be there it might not banking system there could be beneficial side effects.



^ come again?



334. Post 10588435 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: empowering on February 26, 2015, 01:00:21 PM
Watching trolls and their sockpuppets post droll insignificant twaddle, is like watching a constipated rat trying to squeeze one out

Yup, it has it's moments but gets ugly real fast!



335. Post 10588931 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

terrists killerz gotta haz some coins!  What is the total funding for jihadists that can be confirmed so far? ~5 BTC?

It's pretty safe to say that FBI > threat than bitcoin by a long, long margin.


Confidential Informant Played Key Role in FBI Foiling Its Own Terror Plot

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/25/isis-material-support-plot-involved-confidential-informant/

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Crucially, it appears that only after the introduction of the informant did any actual actual arrangements to commit a criminal act come into existence.

It stands to reason that during this extended time period, particularly after a seemingly unhinged Juraboev openly expressed his violent and criminal fantasies to FBI agents, other tactics of intervention could have been taken to prevent he and Saidakhmetov from going down this path.

The covert informant under the direction of the FBI evidently helped encourage the two toward terrorism over the course of these months. Instead of dissuading them, the informant went so far as to watch recruitment videos with the 19-year old Saidakhmetov and help him make his travel documents.

A 2011 study conducted by Mother Jones and the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California-Berkeley found that of 508 post-9/11 terrorism defendants, “Nearly half the prosecutions involved the use of informants, many of them incentivized by money,” with operatives being paid as much as $100,000 per assignment. Of the sting operations that resulted in terrorism arrests, nearly a third are believed to have been led by an agent provocateur in the employ of the FBI.



336. Post 10589203 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

^ off topic but cool as hell. Better OT post than whatever the hell the NLC multiple personality disordered crew are currently seeking attention with.



337. Post 10595908 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

It needs to break 266 convincingly and hold it for a while. How long will it take?



338. Post 10595928 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

maybe not too long !



339. Post 10596010 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):

Quote from: Erdogan on February 27, 2015, 04:06:17 AM
Time to stop the infighting - this is gentlemen.





340. Post 10596069 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):


253.00!




341. Post 10600028 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 27, 2015, 04:21:20 AM

253.00!



HOLDING!!1!



342. Post 10600101 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

^^ Jorge is the most paranoid conspiracy theorist I've seen yet.



343. Post 10600172 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

What about this? Likely a contributing factor like anything else. The markets move because of the "wisdom of crowds" phenomenon much more in a decentralized currency, but of course everyone wants to find that one event that explains it. Similar to how Cypriots were blamed in the past..  




Edit:

 It make sense coming from folks like Jorge who are more in line with centralized hierarchical systems that fail to take advantage of that wisdom.








344. Post 10600639 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Clearly this is GENTLEMEN!





345. Post 10600784 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: NotLambchop on February 27, 2015, 03:18:25 PM

Please don't take it the wrong way.

Wouldn't dream of it friend!




346. Post 10600897 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Uh Oh bears!

LOLZ at the ones cheering the dumps on Feb22




347. Post 10600914 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: sunshine_sid on February 27, 2015, 03:39:59 PM
The matrix has shifted.  Can anyone else feel it?



Something feels much different.



348. Post 10606826 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

You don't happen to work for the state department do you NotLambChop?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/state-dept-official-allegedly-solicits-minor.html



349. Post 10607470 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: shmadz on February 28, 2015, 04:54:48 AM
Each step up from here is likely to be met with substantial resistance.

Markets are more plentiful and mature, as are the players.

Sideways with a slight upward incline is my guess, with the inevitable spikes and dips, but nothing like the moonshots and dub-step style drops of the past.

Just a guess of course, this is bitcoin after all, anything can happen.





I think similarly. Reminiscence of post 2011 bottoming and even longer slow ride up with a possible mini over exuberance along the way to the next stage toward ubiquity.



350. Post 10617562 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

I'm going with a rise to 360 and then back down before any new heights .





351. Post 10620519 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: wpalczynski on March 01, 2015, 01:45:49 PM
This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg10613694#msg10613694

Is it true?

I ignored him because that is all he ever says. Usually after heavy selling.


Masterluc's thread is the best TA thread. This is just for trololol fun.



352. Post 10620691 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.0

Quote from: wpalczynski on March 01, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
Link please?

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg10613694#msg10613694

Is it true?

I ignored him because that is all he ever says. Usually after heavy selling.


Masterluc's thread is the best TA thread. This is just for trololol fun.



353. Post 10624079 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):



Nice to see some cerebral discourse in here. Much more interesting to read. If this is what happens on slow, steady bullish type runs...please continue the trend Bitcoin Cheesy






354. Post 10633698 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: silverfuture on February 27, 2015, 02:05:19 PM

253.00!   266.00



HOLDING!!1!



355. Post 10769821 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.04h):

For the first time in 5 years I actually want the price to go as low as possible over the next couple months. I'm selling some real estate and will buy bitcoin with the entire proceeds.



356. Post 10780190 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.04h):

Quote from: Andre# on March 15, 2015, 01:31:20 PM
no the moment of truth is now...

no wait....

...NOW

i say that because we are in what looks like an uptrend inside of a downtrend.

We're actually in a very small 2 day downtrend, inside of a larger 2 month uptrend, inside of a longer year long downtrend within a very long half decade uptrend by the looks of it!

+1

Haha yes, that describes the current situation quite well!



357. Post 10795890 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.04h):

Quote from: fonzie on March 16, 2015, 10:36:05 PM
Now I understand why zuckerberg wiped the floor with them and took facebook for himself. these guys are idiots.

The movie was not flattering to them either Grin
I would not say they were taken to the cleaners. They ended up earning hundreds of millions with essentially having done nothing.

Thatīs the reason why they are considered heroes among Bitcoiners.  Smiley

Someone is jealous of the early adopters Wink



358. Post 10808086 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.05h):

Quote from: solex on March 18, 2015, 03:55:33 AM
What are the problems with bitcoin??

Some problems:

* Centralization of mining seems inevitable.
As mining matures it is becoming decentralized. organofcorti stats shows this clearly.

* There is no mechanism to stabilize the value.

Yes there is: more widespread adoption, the plateau of market penetration at the top of the S-curve. It's value will be very stable then, more so than the DXY which has screamed from 80 to 100 in a short time and that measures multi-trillion$ of value.

* Limited supply leads to expectations of high value which leads to hoarding instead of use.
Hearding is good, investing is good, saving is good. Only inflationistas dream otherwise.

* Block reward leads to a hyperdeveloped mining industry supported by investors rather than by users.
As before, investors are good. How many people mine their own raw materials for products they use?

* For most people, irreversibility is a serious defect, not a feature.
Cash and gold is irreversible. This is a good feature of sound money.

* Risk of theft is too high for people who are not computer experts.
Early days in a new technology. Wallet software has improved massively, still a way to go, but in 10 years, very safe to own bitcoins.

Quote
I am sure that millions of people don't think like you do.
Or you. You are doing your students a disservice by not teaching them about Bitcoin in the way MIT, Princeton and Nicosia do.

Perhaps a million people have a reasonable understanding of bitcoin and believe in its eventual succeess.  Probably millions of people also have a reasonable understanding of bitcoin but do not believe in its eventual success.  The other 7000 million either haven't heard of it, or have heard of it but don't care to know more, or know just enough to dismiss it.

Handwaving. Only a few people understand the software in detail. The rest have to just see that it works: like smartphones, like quantum mechanics, like stem-cell treatment, like meteorology, etc etc etc, I case you haven't noticed a major feature of modern civilization is extreme specialization. No one person can understand more than a fraction of everything.

Nice going, way to pwn Jorge. It's easy but takes time and attention likely spent better elsewhere Smiley



359. Post 10808090 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.05h):

Quote from: Bozuatle on March 18, 2015, 03:56:45 AM
Price goes up or down, I dont care. I make money either way.



It's a decentralized network. Countries don't really exist.



360. Post 10808135 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.05h):

Quote from: Bozuatle on March 18, 2015, 04:04:42 AM
/snip
It's a decentralized network. Countries don't really exist.

you seem to miss the sentiment, lighten up.

Sorry, must have been too arcane a sentiment for my sensitive proclivities. Carry on!



361. Post 15687629 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.



362. Post 15695496 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 24, 2016, 10:55:44 AM
I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

From where are you getting these figures, from out of your ass?

That is a pretty low amount, and didn't you already notice that $600 had been tested several times in the past month, and only successful once.. Sure it is possible to go down to $420, but that would almost be borderline territory in reversing the bull trend... but that is not what you are saying.  In the end, we gotta get by $500 first and even $550 and $600, so there are a few challenges before even getting to the $400s.

Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!  Probably more realistically high 400's. Within a range but I think it's a leg down before more up. Everyone's had a taste of the bull and wants more but patience is likely a virtue this summer.



363. Post 15696136 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 24, 2016, 09:11:45 PM
Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!

I'd get your gut seen to by a gastroenterologist.

And at your age it probably couldn't hurt to get your prostate examined. Just a quick finger in the bum. Smiley

Ok so it wasn't the best of analogies.



364. Post 15696231 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

@ JayJuanGee  I mostly just hold in cold storage with no intent to trade any time soon. Just a bit of fun for me with a small amount of change.



365. Post 15697202 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 24, 2016, 09:47:02 PM
@ JayJuanGee  I mostly just hold in cold storage with no intent to trade any time soon. Just a bit of fun for me with a small amount of change.


That makes your earlier comments even more ironic because they seem to be somewhat out of touch with your actual practice and actions.

These days, it certainly is not difficult to make various efforts to attempt to align your BTC holdings in accordance with your view of their future price performance.  I know that a lot of folks are really disinclined to sell any of their BTC and so they only buy upon dips and continue to HODL, but if they are like you, and if they really believe that there is a decent chance that BTC prices will dip into the $400s, then they should sell at least a portion of their BTC holdings in order to kind of align their investment with their views. The alignment does not need to be precise, but at least a ballparking of such.

If you are only HODLing BTC, and you have no other plans in terms of the future price dip that you expect, then aren't you feeling kind of uncomfortable with the current allocations of your BTC holdings, or do you enjoy living in such high levels of discordance in your life?  I'm not trying to be judgmental of you, because my perception of the whole situation, as i outlined above, seems really strange to me.

I see it as a much bigger risk to play around with it on exchanges than being cold-storaged.



366. Post 15782753 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: Lionidas on August 01, 2016, 10:55:27 PM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed

Quote from: silverfuture on July 24, 2016, 07:51:11 PM
I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

From where are you getting these figures, from out of your ass?

That is a pretty low amount, and didn't you already notice that $600 had been tested several times in the past month, and only successful once.. Sure it is possible to go down to $420, but that would almost be borderline territory in reversing the bull trend... but that is not what you are saying.  In the end, we gotta get by $500 first and even $550 and $600, so there are a few challenges before even getting to the $400s.

Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!  Probably more realistically high 400's. Within a range but I think it's a leg down before more up. Everyone's had a taste of the bull and wants more but patience is likely a virtue this summer.



367. Post 15783963 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 02, 2016, 02:46:19 AM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed

I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

From where are you getting these figures, from out of your ass?

That is a pretty low amount, and didn't you already notice that $600 had been tested several times in the past month, and only successful once.. Sure it is possible to go down to $420, but that would almost be borderline territory in reversing the bull trend... but that is not what you are saying.  In the end, we gotta get by $500 first and even $550 and $600, so there are a few challenges before even getting to the $400s.

Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!  Probably more realistically high 400's. Within a range but I think it's a leg down before more up. Everyone's had a taste of the bull and wants more but patience is likely a virtue this summer.


Funny how guys feel better to quote themselves, even when they concede that they are just guessing in their predictions..

hahahahahaha   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Still a bit premature to be expecting that we are getting to $400s any time soon.  I'm not saying $400s is impossible, just that we gotta get through various resistance points first (and all that before prices reverse and resume their upwards trajectory).  I would think that mid $500s is a decent reversal point - but yeah, that's my sense at the moment, and not really based on too much of anything besides the appearance of overall ongoing upwards price pressures.

Since the price has dropped around $50 since the quote, I'd say we're headed in the right direction.  A this rate bitcoin will be -600.00USD in only 24 weeks!



368. Post 15788247 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

On the plus side...volume is up! Cheesy



369. Post 15788538 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: savetherainforest on August 02, 2016, 12:18:56 PM
On the plus side...volume is up! Cheesy


Time to be retarded and go full in 100% BTCitcoin ... Go full retarded!  Grin Cheesy




Full retard mode: engaged!



370. Post 15790877 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Where is the "anatomy of a bubble" graph?



371. Post 15794713 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: silverfuture on July 24, 2016, 03:43:00 AM
I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

How do ya like me now JJG Cheesy



372. Post 15794927 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: silverfuture on July 25, 2016, 12:00:06 AM
@ JayJuanGee  I mostly just hold in cold storage with no intent to trade any time soon. Just a bit of fun for me with a small amount of change.


That makes your earlier comments even more ironic because they seem to be somewhat out of touch with your actual practice and actions.

These days, it certainly is not difficult to make various efforts to attempt to align your BTC holdings in accordance with your view of their future price performance.  I know that a lot of folks are really disinclined to sell any of their BTC and so they only buy upon dips and continue to HODL, but if they are like you, and if they really believe that there is a decent chance that BTC prices will dip into the $400s, then they should sell at least a portion of their BTC holdings in order to kind of align their investment with their views. The alignment does not need to be precise, but at least a ballparking of such.

If you are only HODLing BTC, and you have no other plans in terms of the future price dip that you expect, then aren't you feeling kind of uncomfortable with the current allocations of your BTC holdings, or do you enjoy living in such high levels of discordance in your life?  I'm not trying to be judgmental of you, because my perception of the whole situation, as i outlined above, seems really strange to me.

I see it as a much bigger risk to play around with it on exchanges than being cold-storaged.

See what I mean?



373. Post 15796271 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 03, 2016, 02:40:56 AM
I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

How do ya like me now JJG Cheesy

I'm not sure how to take folks who want to claim credit for some unexpected event, without even proclaiming anything in the neighborhood of such an extraneous event... and therefore, you don't get credit for the occurrence of some extraneous event when you did not say anything at all about such.

You are like throwing a dart with the lights off and you happened to hit the target.  


So fucking what?   Roll Eyes

Oh c'mon! Give me credit for a random pick that just happened to work out. You'd be impressed if I swished the hoop from half court blindfolded wouldn't you?  Kiss



374. Post 15816964 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

We're headed back down again soon. The whales haven't finished eating panic plankton yet.



375. Post 15817830 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 04, 2016, 02:08:20 PM
We're headed back down again soon. The whales haven't finished eating panic plankton yet.

Think you're wrong, the market panic sold but rely bfx is an unlicensed, somewhat illegal exchange. It's all blown over now & the price is recovering.

Bitcoin as a whole hasn't been damaged here, it's nothing like the ETH, DAO hack.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with bitcoin. I think the recent price movements were just sped up by the bitfinex hack but it was headed that way. The price movement from 666-604 happened without any knowledge of the hack and there is no way that many people had foresight of the hack to cause the decline. The most competent T/A folks were predicting it long before it happened, even to the price levels very accurately.  People feel a little more confident now but we are going to test the lower levels again before it can rise appreciably in my opinion. I think we are looking at November- December 2016  before we see any kind of serious approach at new highs.



376. Post 16387668 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):

Quote from: Fatman3001 on September 28, 2016, 05:37:33 AM

The JJG character is a real tour de force for NLC/BMB.

The dedication is very impressive.


I wasn't sure there for a while but he won my heart with steadfast determination and a ruthless penchant for mesmerising blocks of text.



377. Post 17742129 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):

Goodbye 1100, hello 700.   Shocked



378. Post 17867588 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):

Quote from: Paashaas on February 16, 2017, 02:56:01 AM
Organic growth/breakout yes..but the PBOC still have there exchanges ready to be slammed.

Is this an suckers rally Huh

I think so. Can't say I haven't been tempted to buy back but if this doesn't have much steam, it'll be back down. I think there is too much excited bullish sentiment at this point and a lot of uncertainty still. Could be wrong. I'll be buying if we see some strong buying and big volumes to get over ATH, but until then...



379. Post 17957789 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):

Cheers gentlemen! It's been a long strange trip.



380. Post 18026504 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):

Quote from: 2017Bubble on March 01, 2017, 03:21:11 PM
Double toppish?



Depends, the next 6 hours are critical! Seriously though, we did achieve a higher high and it's going up again. Whew...



381. Post 18037810 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):

Quote from: Torque on March 02, 2017, 01:53:49 PM
I just watched the most ridiculous Bitcoin COIN ETF hit piece on Bloomberg video:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-12-19/winklevoss-twins-prepare-first-ever-bitcoin-fund

Constant pictures/ video spliced in of 'physical bitcoins' in the background (which everyone knows are collectable and not the real bitcoin, makes it look like a toy), the interviewee pointing out negative after negative, etc.  Both the interviewer and the interviewee were literally laughing and scoffing at the idea of an ETF the whole time, like it was one big joke.

It's like the Media has an agenda to keep Average Joe investors skeptical of Bitcoin and scared away from touching it, and especially investing in the ETF.


I agree with the guest and it seemed pretty reasonable for a corporate media piece. You're better off holding bitcoins than an etf and it will "catch on" due to mistrust of central banking.



382. Post 18172868 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.05h):

Quote from: york780 on March 13, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
Yes yes ETF amazing recovery etc etc blablabla. Thats not the point. Why are the shitty altcoins pumping like hell and we are stagnating and losing 5 % marketcap ? And volume is really low.

Imagine the walls we'll observe when that value comes back into Bitcoin.



383. Post 18205696 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):

Walls seem to be falling with increasing volume.



384. Post 18206474 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):

Quote from: MNDan on March 16, 2017, 06:09:56 AM
And there she goes........

Any idea what just caused the crash ? Doesn't looked like a correction to me

what crash?

Just see the bitfinex movement buddy. Price dropped down by $40

oh i see down -1.5%

seems like blind selling.

pretty sure random blind selling will break support at these high levels
then at -5% people will get nervous
at -15% they're gonna panic
and then i can finally buy back, before the forking.

Right after the monkeys fly out of my butt!

You have monkeys in your butt?  Undecided



385. Post 18239800 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.06h):

Quote from: Lauda on March 18, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
LAUDA,
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BU nodes are at ~8% at best (see here: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/), or more realistically at 2% (see here: http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/software.html).

whew ok, that's looks better  Wink

Thx for the link and your input on this
What you were looking at is :
Quote
In the last 24 hours (144 blocks), Unlimited + Classic hashrate is ~1366 PH/s (37.5%) of the total Bitcoin network (3642 PH/s).
If you compare this to the nodes + the desires of the economic majority, you can see how something is obviously wrong. Miners should be working towards the interest of the users and the economy, but in this case they aren't. The reason for that is is because a *certain* mr. Jihan is controlling pretty much all of the BU hashrate (he just diversified it under other pools that suddenly popped up with hundreds of petahashes). Roll Eyes This is a better and simpler way to view the current total (signalling): https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools?resolution=24h and you can see individual pools signalling here (when they mine blocks): https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC

People are panicking that we are dropping down to $1000. I love it. This was a far off dream not that long ago.
Half a year ago, $1000 was a dream. Now, people are panicking because we are back to $1000? How times quickly change. Cheesy

Bitcoin dies @ 1000  Goodbye bitcoin Cheesy Cheesy gobble gobble



386. Post 18431581 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):

Why are bitstamp prices so much lower than everyone else's?



387. Post 18514184 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):

Quote from: deepcolderwallet on April 09, 2017, 02:26:51 AM
Time to fulfill Afrikoin's prophecy.
I'm already sold out and waiting for $750.

Not 100% on 750 but I'm in fiat unless it pops up convincingly through those walls. It's been a bit of a slow grind down so we'll see where it bottoms out. I hope Africoin is correct.



388. Post 18520173 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 09, 2017, 03:42:57 AM
Time to fulfill Afrikoin's prophecy.
I'm already sold out and waiting for $750.

Not 100% on 750 but I'm in fiat unless it pops up convincingly through those walls. It's been a bit of a slow grind down so we'll see where it bottoms out. I hope Africoin is correct.

You playing your whole investment on down?

Wow!!!!  If so, you sound like an irrational gambler.



I keep most in cold storage but what I do have on exchanges I go pretty much all in or out depending on which way I think it's going. It might be a poor strategy for some but it's worked well for me so far.



389. Post 18578404 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):

Quote from: silverfuture on April 09, 2017, 03:21:41 AM
Time to fulfill Afrikoin's prophecy.
I'm already sold out and waiting for $750.

Not 100% on 750 but I'm in fiat unless it pops up convincingly through those walls. It's been a bit of a slow grind down so we'll see where it bottoms out. I hope Africoin is correct.

JJG thought I was a reckless gambler when stating I had gone all fiat @ 1200 USD. I see no reason to play bits of this and that and percentages. I go with momentum and and have no problem reassessing my position and changing if need be.  Not panicking and buying back when it went higher than 1220 took some restraint but I was confident in the position.



390. Post 18693645 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.08h):

Quote from: simmo77 on April 22, 2017, 12:36:26 PM

Mining doing nothing but eating up the planets resources, with less and less efficiency.

If bitcoin goes mega scale someone will have to find a way to make it greener. Or we will all be sitting naked and hungry, oh but with some bitcoins. Woo hoo.

Bitcoin is not the cause of the world's environmental problems.

The energy is being used for a productive purpose, unlike the energy I'm wasting right now reading this thread.

Right? I feel like I'm transported back in time to 2011 when the same fears were expressed and dispelled.



391. Post 19185474 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):

Quote from: Chainsaw on May 25, 2017, 02:45:45 AM
I wonder how NLC is doing.

Probably working on adding zeros to the Wiley coyote 280, 380, 480 GIF




392. Post 19619815 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.12h):

Not sure if it's been discussed here recently or not but does anyone think there is weight to the idea that as we get closer to Aug 1st more coins will be withdrawn from exchanges and causing a greatly reduced supply?



393. Post 20290192 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 21, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
Not enough ... boyaaaa.




"The Road to Milfdom" by Hayek



394. Post 20317018 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

Quote from: Torque on July 23, 2017, 04:59:55 AM
So is Bitfinex driving this market right now?


that 7 5  million $ buy wall on there seems impressive enough.

EDIT  It's starting to look like no one exchange is driving this. There is broader exchange infrastructure than there has ever been in bitcoin history.




395. Post 20317115 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.14h):

That buywall on 'finex is getting decimated.



396. Post 20380155 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.15h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 25, 2017, 06:13:31 PM

I used the ATM nearest to my home. It is a Lamassu operated by Instacoin.


I lol'ed imagining you getting up to pee in the night, spotting the price action, and then hustling down to the bitcoin teller to catch the dip. Classic!  



397. Post 20628024 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):

BTCOOM!



398. Post 28306269 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.38h):

It's gotten quite friendly in here all of a sudden.  Grin

Glorious walls of volatility behold!



399. Post 31170624 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: RealMachasm on February 27, 2018, 09:03:51 AM


no merits left.
+1WOmerit

I am fucking rolling in merits. The creme de la creme of train memes over the next days shall be rewarded handsomely to celebrate. 



400. Post 50585708 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM BITCOIN CEO SATOSHI NAKAMOTO

There are only 2 acceptable modes of conduct from here out:

1. PAMP it!
2. HODL!

BTC

P.S. I am not Craig Wright. He is a fraud







401. Post 50585945 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on April 13, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. People make mistakes and Roger has seemed deeply unhappy in all of his interviews since at least around the fork if not earlier. Will see where he goes from here.




402. Post 50605982 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

The ones telling you to wait for the dip are accumulating right now.



403. Post 50606386 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: Toxic2040 on April 14, 2019, 09:56:25 PM
The ones telling you to wait for the dip are accumulating right now.
Waiting for the dip.
May reasons why I am waiting for the dip.





Don't let the dip, give you the slip!



404. Post 50617894 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Ready Player One, Satoshi edition.  Who wants to win a millio in BTC?

https://satoshistreasure.xyz/1




405. Post 50618033 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.41h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 15, 2019, 05:19:40 PM
Ready Player One, Satoshi edition.  Who wants to win a millio in BTC?

https://satoshistreasure.xyz/1


Me

Everyone playing is hoping they find the 400th key at the time of the dip!



406. Post 50658443 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

I feel a pump coming on...


....can you dig it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI



407. Post 50658784 (copy this link) (by silverfuture) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.42h):

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on April 18, 2019, 01:07:34 PM
I feel a pump coming on...


....can you dig it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI
I will get my spade

We use miners to dig around here  Grin