Those guys aren't bears, they're just trolls. I seriously doubt any of them have any BTC. Their lives seem to be a pitiful obsession with pissing on one particular bonfire.

Still, I think many people (those who got into bitcoin for get-rich-quick reasons) will get tired and leave during 2015.
And then the rally in 2016 should, as always, surprise even the bulls... 5 digits?

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/03/04/utah-successfully-passes-bitcoin-bill/


=

http://le.utah.gov/~2015/bills/static/HCR006.html

wow that dipped a lot more than expected! scary shit right there. Still say we recover.

Because the buys have mainly been during the Western world's day time and then we get dumps during the Western world's night time, potentially the chinese are dumping while they are awake then the USA buys during our day.

thx....i'm confident there will be no major price drop

Were simply retracing to the .618 fib as I said yesterday

This really needed to retrace

I prefer a woman who doesn't sell her body for money 

If you give 1 BTC as a wedding gift to every guy you know who gets married, the 1 BTC will cover all sex expenses once he needs it in 20 years. Just set it up like a trust fund he can only use for fucking or buying sexbots.

What auction is this? Looks like I'm not updated with the current news. >.<

Adam Guerbuez is the false prophet.


Kim Dotcom is our true leader.

keep the btc they earn as fees in a reserve account and use the VC money to meet operating expenses.

who said that the ask price is $350

maybe it will be $200, and they will dump the till $200

I am not a lawyer, but that explanation of why Abra is not a money transmitter is seems totally bogus.  When you use Western Union, you give your cash to one teller here, and another teller over there gives his cash to the other customer.  No cash is actually moving between the two locations, and there may not even be transfers between bank accounts.  Yet WU is definitely a money transmitter...

Rumour only.  No-one on the record. Yet.

Laughable how this dumb scared whale(s) is constantly buying so the positive momentum could continue. If you look at the chart, the price wants to plunge into the shitter and everytime it does that for a longer period, you see these sudden bursts...


Somebody is about to lose a shit ton of money.

Looking for a long position in low 270s.

@ Bitfinex is a huge sell out at 272. Looks like that is the barrier over-there.

people always shorting on finex.

What special this time?

Not bad for Brits travelling to mainland Europe, with EURGBP at 7 year lows, also.

Remember when U.S. Americans were so envious of Europeans who were able to visit the States so cheaply but it was so expensive to visit Europe? Europeans hopefully have a lot of good vacation photos by now. Memories to last a lifetime!

There you go. I'm pretty sure you've just solved the ongoing Greek economic crisis! Just have Italy and Germany tell Greece that they can choose to be either a province of Italy or a state of Germany. Then when ppl buy Italian sports cars or German luxury cars w/ their BTC profits, it will help their nation. So which is it, Greeks, will you be Italians now or will you become German? If you're bullish enough on BTC, I think you better learn to cook a mean lasagna!

all in?

I wonder if someone with (nearly) infinite amount of one currency can crash all the others...

No. You can only crash your own by printing as much as you like. Worked great for Mugabe. Now Draghi tries it!!

(US did it as well, but as they are a reference currency (i.e if you want to buy oil, you have to buy dollars. Not good, but not critical.)

100 Trillion Euro note , anyone?   ( i am joking, dont take it too serious)

Oh we will be...just not in a bad way 

I read the market wrong. I thought yesterday's pump was a bear trap, but it was just a correction from oversold conditions. I'd rather be trading with Jews. At least the Hymies know how to make money. These yellow fuckers are just mining now and dumping at spot. look at the 12 HR chart. Endless selling on Shanghai time. We're gonna take all their coins and leave them back in the 12th century where they seem to be comfortable.

and the winning bidder is  ....??

will us marshall announce it public ?


nothing new, here http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2015/dpr-february-auction/

i think the auction is legit.... dealing drugs is one thing........but when you start ripping everyone off, killing people, threatening to kill people; then your ass is garbage and you belong in jail. #straightup gratz on your successful auction marshal's ... i own two b4c camaros from albuqueque and a undercover t-top firebird from los angeles (i just got this one) i got from auctions....and i have owned three other 9c1's before those i got from auctions. drug dealing is one thing....but there are a lot of bad people out there that belong in jail and from what i have read that silk road guy was a piece of trash. this is why i disagree with the sentiment around here that is against the auctions.

Do we even know what "libertards" means? I want to knock it but I don't know where to start.

...alleged attempts to hire the murder of several people..

my cars arent trash dorky .. i got the good ones. you jealous ??

seems i'm not the only one who buys from their auctions....

how many coins now ??

According to the FBI, there are emails in his laptop where Ross offers to pay the Hells Angels in Canada for the murder of a supplier who was threatening to denounce Ross if he did not help the supplier to recover a large sum that another SilkRoad client was owing him (which he in turn owed to the Hells Angels, it seems).  It is not known whether the supplier was actually killed.  Some of those emails were published as evidence in the drug trafficking trial.  That was not the only case of Ross trying to hire a murder, IIRC. 

The trial in Maryland was supposed to look at the murder-hiring charges specifically.  Has it been called off?

 #straightup gratz on your successful auction marshal's ...

i own two b4c camaros from albuqueque and a undercover t-top firebird from los angeles (i just got this one) i got from auctions...

.and i have owned three other 9c1's before those i got from auctions


my cars arent trash dorky .. i got the good ones. you jealous ??

instagram your bidding card or this is bullshit

yeah seriously.. fukoff ...i did not bid on the marshals auction.

He hasn't been convicted yet.  What it the point you are trying to make?

  Whether somebody died or not, it would not change his standing (legally or morally) in the least.

And 50000 coins from the auction which will only settle on monday. I guess they were bought at a discount to the current price. Lets see how long this will be a discount

Dump is getting late to the party, makes me wonder if it will happen at all, and I'll go to sleep soon anyway.

Maybe if enough people are adhering to their wonderful squiggly lines it becomes something of a self fulfilling prophecy. I myself regard it all as a heap of shit. The lines do not account for things that happen in the real world.

 there is no absolute correlation between traded volume and change in value.

Tree hundred today

32,000$ by mid 2017 is my prediction.

china will have no choice but to reviste its ban on bitcoin use in order to participate in the "digital economy",

hey hey hey, i'm calling for ~100x growth in ~50 months, 1000x growth in 24 months thats totally unreasonable...

 

that's.....5.88....trillion? not too absurd imo

Epic dumps are not that epic anymore.

 - the difference between Doge and Bitcoin is that there isn't a cap to the total number of Dogecoins created,
 whereas Bitcoin will only ever have a max of 21m coins (unless the protocol changes).

The 21 million cap, is as concrete as peoples trust in Bitcoin..... or rather peoples trust in Bitcoin is as concrete at the 21 million cap.

If someone was to change this "one line of code" if definitely would be considered a "hard fork", regardless of consensus from the core devs.

A hard fork is any change to a protocol that is not backwards compatible.

really? Then ltc, doge and other alts would have already surpassed btc long time ago.

Check the whitepaper and why bitcoin was invented in the first place. You will then understand why the limit of 21 mil btc wont be changed

Good luck finding that consensus!

If devs decided to make this change,  miners and nodes would then have the option to follow or not, essentially what you are suggesting would be a fork/ hard fork, saying it ain't so ^^ is semantics.

You can test your theory, create a hard fork of BTC now, increase the limit to 42 million and convince all of the nodes and miners to follow you.

I will give you my vote now.

NO

Whats the point of arguing the semantics anyway. It's not gonna happen, FUD or whatever you are doing is a little pathetic.

Ah ok, simple then.

Off you pop then, get cracking,  let me know how it goes.

No... because I can ignore the obvious too, just like you.

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll. 

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot

I have had a better idea....  instead of miners receiving Bitcoin for their work, they simply get "thank you" notes + links to youtube rickrolls

Totally doable.

Make it so.

Not wrong, just pointless.

Here is a video that will explain what you are missing.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

If fat ppl and ginger ppl were to face genocide in a country, don't think for one second that other countries wouldn't get involved. That's not how the world works. People would say it's not fair. Before you knew it, the other countries would kill off their own fat ppl and ginger ppl so that they wouldn't have to keep them around either.

Wow straight from the troll talking points rebuttal book "Troll being anyone who has a different view to you?"

Fine, you're not a troll, you're just an asshole.

You obviously know 21 million is as concrete as anything in Bitcoin, the fact that the code can change it with consensus is at most a red herring by you. Otherwise you have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how the Bitcoin community works.

I think it's predicated mostly on the belief that the majority of people (miners in this case) will act rationally.  I would say that most miners consider the 21M coin cap to be a defining characteristic of Bitcoin, and probably the most important characteristic that gives the coin value.  If you accept that premise, then it is logical to assume that miners will not act irrationally by destroying the value that is their whole incentive for mining in the first place.

Of course he is right. it is akin to share dilution

What would the difference be between

21 million coins at $1 dollar each

and 42 million coins at 50 cents each?

May be you could show us the code? Find the line that says there will be 21 million. The code is on the net. Please give the link to the file and the line number. Thank you.

Nice 

That was half an answer (comments, and check code). My point was basically that the code defines the halvings, not the 21 million number, and the OP didn't seem to know. Anyway, I'm done.

Right, but I don't see the 21 mill number in that line of code.

Ah good, might give you some time to work on your interpersonal skills. 

Stick that up your jumper.

sAt0sHiFanClub ignored...

Errr... no, basically you seem to think you are on some mission to educate, well learn to fucking communicate and try and be nice.. you come on here acting like a cunt, and then get all offended when someone pulls you up on it, and act all superior and surprised. What is good for the goose is good for the gander sunshine. If you do not like it, tough. What goes around comes around hey?

Keep trying.

(ps, you are still wrong)

pps. I suggest you keep swinging for evolution, and I will fight the winner, because you are boring me now.

Yawn.

I think you must have missed the word now ^^,  and imagine that, I can still use my fingers when I am bored.

But now I really will leave you to bray at the moon and stumble around in the darkness.

Take care now buddy, good luck in getting your point across and good luck with those interpersonal skills.

 

Auf wiedersehen

Yeah sorry about that everyone.

Been one of those days.

It's tokenisation again. I guess this makes life sweeter in third world banking areas like the US. In the EU money moves around near instantly for free already.

The underlying principles of BTC are what turns me on at least, not another fancy way of moving existing money which is what this is.

 

*looks at post history*




what a surprise. have not seen 230 since then and id say 295 is up?

Brainfart: I remember that post and I genuinely thought he meant double digits. Not 280s.

I do not deny that there is a huge currency war ongoing, but Bitcoin is lightyears away from taking any part in this game.

Sshhhh! He's here!

Anyways I don't really ignore him because I like to see the price updates. Although I can easily go to another website, I spend most of my time posting here so he is at least helpful(well, a bit).

I went crazy 4 times in the last year of following this thread, heh. How did you stay sane? All the FUD in here makes me never want to trade ever. All this weird shite of calling eachother and their mothers idiots and talking utter crap, screw that.

afaik fidor is not for europeans... only for germans, no?

They (Kraken) accept SEPA, which I personally verified. It works for everybody inside the EU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y

Can bitcoin safe Greece??

If the Greek people begin to use bitcoin instead of Euro, Bitcoin will EXPLODE!! Another pro bull market argument... The people with Shorts on please wake up, before you get margin called out, and we all have to feed you with our spare satoshis!  

Its the irony of Bitcoin; once you realize you need it, you can't get any because nobody wants what you have to trade (your hyper-fiat)

I don't see it this way. The news in the bitcoin world are positive and promising. There's also a decent amount of confidence in the price since we broke the downtrend.

Or just ban the IP address NotLambChop/Silverspoon/newbiejailnoplz is using  

Evo news hitting popular media today.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/03/18/evolution-market-a-scam-says-site-pr/

But we have arguably had  the best news for bitcoin in the last few weeks, and thankfully few new scams ( no mega scam anyway, but they are still brewing) yet the price is still stagnant, moving only in a vague pump and dump cycle every few days.

The next decision was to limit the number of atomic units (satoshis) to about 2^51 - 1 = 2'251'799'813'685'247, which is the maximum range of integers that can be safely manipulated in IEEE double-precision floating point without rouding.  That would allow any bitcoin accounting to be done on an Excel spreadsheet without losing a satoshi.  (Excel, and many other programs, use double-precsion floating point for all numbers,  Most computer nerds would never have tought of that.  They generally avoid floating-point because of its complicated rounding, and would have picked 2^63 or 2^62 instead.  But Satoshi obviously was not a typical computer nerd, knew how Excel works, and knew how to use FP without rounding.)

Most computer nerds would never have tought of that.

Please stop trolling, thx.

Fuck off yourself.  At least Stolfi has some interesting arguments from time to time, even if I usually disagree with them.
You are just a disgrace for the community.

Shall I refer to you as nostraDumbAss from here on forth?

And as for your "prediction" ........really... are we witnessing the 50k coins from the auction being dumped? funny I cannot see it.... please point to the 50K coins making their way from the auction winners to exchanges to be dumped.

If you remember I did say we could have another further retracement... so yeah on that front... what a shocker.

(Also you seem a bit perturbed, angry, out of sorts? are you ok bro? take some deep breaths now and go and check your pill dispenser ya may have missed a dose)

(pps - gfy  )

Let's hope they don't take it too far. Germans tend to go overboard when they get all fired up.

we're doomed

It really doesn't matter, he's just going to change the subject to another ill-conceived FUD talking point, and grace us with some patronizing wall of text, and set pedantic traps for people to respond to so he can launch into some pre-conceived nonsense he was planning to all along. I think this kind of behavior is a cautionary tale of what is to be expected from your garden-variety self-appointed do-gooder asshole who comes to the discussion motivated purely by an agenda and veritable attics full of unacknowledged political baggage.

BearTC-E is leading the charge here?

 

forgive me masses - but I'm starting to come over to your side, sir  


please teach me the way, oh wise one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzSBccQqWk

These women friends of yours... If it's not indelicate of me to ask...  How big are their dicks, would you say?

"Well below 270" is less ambiguous. One could just check what coindesk puts as average price when the day is over.

Correct, but there's a shorter solution. Click here: http://brainden.com/crossing-river.htm there is a lot more where the riddle came from. Beautiful puzzles and - BTW: you're hired!

WSJ article! Up up...  
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nasdaq-to-provide-trading-technology-for-bitcoin-marketplace-1427140006

At 9am London time the price was 269.6 on coinbase.  That's what the lol was for. And no, 266 is not well below 270.

Aren't those problems with the weight effectively decidable with common sorting algorithms? I mean you just have to define a comparator (the stick and the side that goes down = heavier) and put it into Quicksort, Mergesort, whatever...

... it's actually simpler than that [ ... complicated stuff ]

also , even if you do it in 1 trip , you still have to skin an animal and make a rope , costing you some amount of time depending on how good a skinner / rope maker you are so this may not actually be fastest despite being the least # of river crossings , and you lose the possibility of being able to make something else out of the hide other than rope , a blanket or rug for example ...

Anyone who knows what their strategy is?

derp less than 10% drop...  

was that all you can do bear... really ?

5K dumps every 2hrs. Seems like a pattern... And it's yet the same old story: "Bullish news = Down we go"...

Down we go gents, another hack!

https://cryptoine.com/

Looks like another dark market might go down?  

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/304rhd/why_the_fck_are_we_dropping_faster_than_a_fat/

I had transferred 1 btc to a local exchange yesterday in order to pay some bills. I checked now and sold it for $274. Not the biggest break I ever got, but sweet.

i found a brazillian guy masturbating once and he just stared into my eyes and carried on

(this story has no point)

a conversation until i eventually left the room or picked up a book or whatever. the masturbation never stopped

A bear flag isn't an indicator 

Any other HODLER's at a huge loss over all?

Me.....

You know folks, when reaching top of this small correction, who panics first panics the best!

Brace yourself to panic quickly!

They have 100,000 merchants lined up but only 28,000 out of an eventual 1 billion coins available for the first 99 days. There might be the odd squeeze.

Any coin with a 'co founder' doesn't sound too encouraging either.

Just wonder if it's going to impact Bitcoin in the media.

there's an excellent tool for that: youtube-dl.

the -x switch tells it to extract audio only after dl
"--audio-format mp3" optionally converts to mp3

#> youtube-dl -x --audio-format mp3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gfntBEI3Aw

What's your plan then? It's either tax exile or constantly fretting about being nailed. Neither sounds like huge fun to me, but it depends on how bad your local tax regime is.

Why do you keep killing your prophets, Bitcoiners?  Why?


Good morning, gentlemen?

Yup, but its fucking ridiculous, couple of willy/markus bots on chinese shitty exchange own minds of people hurrying to place more longs to get rekt once again.

I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

Seriously WTF? Could we PLEASE persuade Theymos to bring back the newbie prison? My ignore list goes to DA MOON just by ignoring sockpuppets!

Basically, shares of GBTC are created by exchanging BIT for GBTC and destroyed by redeeming GBTC for BIT



BIT holds the bitcoin. There is no fractional reserve. Each share of BIT is backed by 1/10 of a Bitcoin and shares of BIT and GBTC are equal.

@Ezmoneylife: Please do not post any personal information, that's how people like inca operate.

I thought the "foundation" already forked the code like weeks ago? 

http://qntra.net/2015/03/bitcoin-foundation-reaches-release/

    

so ... currently the TOR protected blackmarkets are all taken down simultaneously / are "being attacked" , so if any of those "trustworthy" places are actually hacked / get spooked / decide to take this opportunity to run off with another few dozen thousands of btc of purely criminal money , we get to drop another $50 like we did 10 days ago ... if they stay down (potentially as a result of government action to remove those blights from society) , bitcoin loses all real current use value of obfuscating illegal activity ... yknow , since it's not easier , cheaper , or faster than traditional payment methods , and isn't used for remittances (since 3rd world countries don't *have* local currency bitcoin exchanges , poor people don't typically have bank accounts to link to exchanges anyway , and these economies have 0 places to spend raw bitcoin) ...

oh ... and taking bets on if all couple dozen or so unregulated exchanges are being run 100% without fraud / insider trading / false buying / false selling / illegal fractional reserve eventually leading to outright theft (aka goxxing everyone again) ... think about that ... yeah ... all , every single one , of the exchanges currently in operation are 100% being run legitimately , despite complete lack of regulation or oversight ... sure ... what , no takers ? ... comeon 10 to 1 i'll give ya ... no takers still ? ... damn ... but all joking aside ... i cannot wait to get just *ONE* fucking legitimate regulated exchange ... any new eta at all on gemini ? ? ? ... Q1 was the supposed target , and that obviously did NOT happen ...

btw ... when we fork this shit , do you all think price will plummet $50 , $100 , or $ 150 ?

and isn't used for remittances (since 3rd world countries don't *have* local currency bitcoin exchanges , poor people don't typically have bank accounts to link to exchanges anyway

"They want to use anonymous currency that allows them to do transactions, move large amounts of money, without ever being traced.
That's why digital currency is very important. It's used for all this bad stuff."--Tate Jarrow, recipient of U.S. Secret Service Exceptional Service Award

"Digital currency exists because people want to be outside that system," he added.

A quick usage pointer:  You can't have doom.  Ever.
Always being just out of reach, always looming somewhere in the [horrifying] future, is the most excellent, defining quality of doom.

Doom is the harbinger of disaster, a promissory note of endless weeping & gnashing of teeth.
What you are asking for is death & devastation, ruin, eternal pain & suffering (all of which will be starting shortly), but not doom.

Here's mine if it's of any use:

http://pastebin.com/DJQxU2zi

I don't get the amount and inflation argument at all.

Well, if you look at this as a numbers game.  There are roughly 2 million people only in the US turning 18 this year.  So that's less than 1 BTC per 18 year old.   So, times the amount of total people in the world, the amount of BTC generated per year is a droplet.   Look at the forum here.. over 1k accounts created per day.

That's how fractional reserve banking works!
It's a great way to count the same money multiple times and make your economy look far bigger and stronger than it actually is!

Sooner or later bitcoin will "benefit" from this too.

This. no point blocking people that actually add something.

Also, Norway, you can copy and paste the whole list in profile->ignore

[Bitcoin] confirmed [as] april fools joke

Back in April 2014, user @BTCat asked people to give their predictions for today's  price price.  As you can imagine, most of the predictions were well above 1000 $/BTC.  So one guy who guessed 135$ had a very easy win.  The same user also posted a second prediction of 266$ on June 2, but it was disqualified for being one day too late.

So now you know who has been manipulating the price all along.

Fonzie's assets?

Let me guess... 1 slingshot, 3 Pokemon cards, 1 yoyo, 2 GI Joe dolls, a Betsy Wetsy action figure and an iPhone.

Maybe his mommy also bought him a Schwinn.

 

Looks like 250 is now sealed off

Pages and pages of troll rubbish. Price flat.

Meanwhile the slow accumulation of long positions continues. Looking forward to the much awaited announcement finally happening.

No, you welcome to MY ignore list




I'm not joking, you're now ignored, but that's not all!  I'll post my ignore list here, right in this thread, between code tags, to share it with other serious posters.
And each time you see your name, you'll flush with shame... knowing that your once-friends know just how little I think of you.  That's right--all your ex-friends will know that you're being ignored by ME, and they'll laugh at you.  And you'll cry.  You'll think that you look like this...



...but you won't, you'll be all covered with snot & stuff.  Eww, gross!
And crying won't help, because no one will care!  Because you're now IGNORED!!!

Yeah, that's right...  See how that backfired on you?


*P.S. don't even bother replying, because I won't see it--you're ignored!

https://youtu.be/pCbBMAeX0ok

 

https://aligncommerce.com/how

Looks like a shitier version of paypal

It is a currency, and should be used as a currency rather than just being "traded for profits"...

meanwhile in the bull HQ...


- "we will break 250 easy peasy"
- "yeah! there is like no resistance! let us wire some real cash asap! those fools will think that a genuine and organic growth is coming"
- "we will push this to 275 at least and close those longs on top of their poor heads!"
- "agreed! that will be our finest hour!"








- "now, let us place a nice hidden support"
- "once those fools start to dump they will realize how strong and determined we are"
- "you dont fuck with bitcoin bulls!"
- "hell no"
- "they will start to panic buy themself our asks!"
- "fuck yeah!"

say it to the rich people that invest million in bitcoin start ups...

Tell that to mybitcoin.com users.

When he asked which mobile app I used, I pulled out my device to show him and he immediately scanned the QR code and gave me a 0.05btc tip.

Had to google "grindr" to find out what you were blathering about.

I'm not really up-to-date on what you LGBT types are doing these days.

You might want to ease up on the abrasives though. Your rectal discomfort seems to be dominating your life.

And, if bitcoin actually dies before that date, this forum will probably be closed; so it would be pointless to enter "$0"  

You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation. Solution? Find a hypothetical problem by changing the protocol. Lol.

You need to get out more.

You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation

NLC, I worry you might be mentally ill. All you do all day is talk to yourself on a bitcoin forum. The point being talk to yourself, as after this message I will ban yet another of your pathetic alts.

Maybe you can talk about child pornography with yourself (another favourite of yours). Why aren't you posting from your main account instead of 'sporket' again?

Perhaps you could have a chat with yourself about how you sold your entire stash at 600 dollars and watched the price double in the following months becoming more and more bitter each passing day. Eventually posting 8000 times in 9 months trying to troll the price lower.

But feel free to keep posting that I bought one coin on december the 4th 2013 to your heart's content!

Back to ignore my feeble friend.

EDIT: oh and dec 4th was nowhere near the top, but i am pretty sure 160 was the bottom

When is LEOcoin releasing?

1) point out which part of those statements were rubbish

2) given the majority of my coins were safely locked away in march/april 2013, who cares if i did?

Inca Date Registered:   November 10, 2013, 02:10:27 PM

Lets just say the biggest financial mistake I ever made was opening my bc.info account in nov 2012 and watching the price for a few months before jumping in.

Among the companies at the forefront of this move is DRW Holdings, a high-frequency trading firm in Chicago founded by former options-pit trader Donald Wilson in 1992.

Smart criminals, avoiding chargebacks this way. It seems bitcoin has many use cases, thanks to bitcoin it didn't get bloody.

Too bad that the same people that need to protect us are incapable of protecting some files.

and the most recent untainted files were 18 months old.

http://fortune.com/2015/04/06/nike-cio-bitcoin/

Hey look at that, another top exec making the move to a BTC start-up.


edit: But bitcoin's going nowhere amirite trolls? 

Seen lots of this from you lately. Guess you decided to short and now you're underwater?

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote



GBTC is going to be the world's first publicly traded Bitcoin fund. Barry Silbert launched this thing in 2013 and they found a sneaky backdoor to putting a "Bitcoin fund" on a public exchange by publicly selling shares that have been held for 12+ months on an "Over the counter" market (not a top-tier one such as NYSE or NASDAQ). It is not officially an ETF (which is what the Winkle Twins are going for on NASDAQ), but it functions in much in the same way (with pretty hefty fees might I add). Effectively, each GBTC share is worth 0.1 Bitcoins, and it is set to start trading sometime this week, or so we are led to believe by Barry Silbert's Twitter account.


http://pando.com/2015/03/02/barry-silberts-bit-wins-the-race-to-become-the-first-publicly-traded-bitcoin-investment-vehicle/

Give it a rest, you don't fool anyone.

LeoCoin is a joke. I have to say I only spend a short time on reading about it, but everything smell about LeoCoin...

Where are you getting this info that leocoin has tripled in value?  What exchange?  This coin looks DOA with no volume at all.  I can't even find a price.  I see a bid for 30 cents a coin on one exchange assumeing its not a scam site.  But the bid/ask spread is huge.

Do you think were stupid? 

Dude you know just as well as any of us that this place died ages ago.  

Between the trolls, sock puppets and Theymos' questionable decisions the only reasons to come here are to watch the car crash and to stay in touch with the people that used to keep this thread worth visiting more regularly.

FYI:
I've been a mod onto multiple forums for quite a long time (I'm online since 1995).

I tend to give people a couple of chances in order to prevent their "bad" posts prevail over the "good" ones.

Both of you, as well as mmitech are on this list not because you're bears (others here are too) but because I found more than 3 of your comments insultive to other users. I find this intolerable IRL, also as on an online (public) forum.

I have no authority here

this list is made just to keep this thread clean while I try to maintain the information flow.

If you behave then I will remove you from it. I don't have anything against you, I can't tolerate insults to others.

Am I the only one who thinks that 242 isn't quite the doom we were promised?

No joke.  A year ago, at the NY hearings, the FBI testified that they were not worried about bitcoin, so I read.  To this day, I have not read of anyone from US law enforcement calling for it to be banned.  Not even after the ransomware attacks against government offices.

Objectively, catching Ross Ulbricht must have been much easier than catching a traditional drug dealer, since much of the investigation could have been done remotely, by agents sitting at their desks, with hot coffee and donuts at hand...

entertaining for sure ... nuttier than a snickers bar , yup ... you betcha ... i watched a few of her videos until it became unpalatable / clear she is nutter butters ... recommend watching a few though for entertainment value ... like watching a dog crapping on a baby ... or 2 girls 1 cup ...

They're intense because she's a poet and writes much of her work as semi-poetry and perform them as poetry. She means every word though. I saw her in an Alex Jones video and some video about the Bilderberg conference, and it's... I can't take it seriously. Funny thing is she's an anarchist, but she seems pretty determined to boss people around.

qe?

...based on calculations I did comparing other currencies with bitcoin and the role it can play as a global currency

Perfect setup for a weekend crash

this list is made just to keep this thread clean while I try to control the information flow.

Well, Britain's effectively two parties and the current coalition is the first in a long time. You don't get people frothing at the mouth at each other.

Having said that, the most rabidly right wing Brit would probably be regarded as a commie pinko begging to be relieved of their life by their American counterpart.

The gays in the military debate was pure entertainment gold. Why check the experiences of the dutch and the swedes when you can barf out every brain fart you have to an international audience.

Yeah, there's a reason for this...
They get you into The List in no time...

PS: List is now updated.  

8 comments on this page is ignored....

I don't think it is money motivating all the alt trolling, it's pathology.

That would be brilliant

Nah, he's just a sockpuppet.

It's now updated with all the new sockpuppets.

Don't think he's sockpuppet, he's just a bit of an _____ sometimes (He may have switched to short). But I could stop quoting him if you like?

The Bitcoin development has been underfunded and uncoordinated to a point where it risks being unable to deal with major problems if uncovered. Having firm ground somewhere well funded with a lot of bright heads lessens the risk of Bitcoin stumbling on itself. I would love it if other universities or organisations in other countries set up similar centers, but you have to start somewhere.

The "power" of BF is there only to the extent that the rest of the community lets them have it. We don't know exactly how this partnership looks like yet. If it's too unpalatable for the rest of the Bitcoin community they should get on with a competing/complementary body elsewhere. In fact, that's a good idea anyway.

From what I understood, they were being attacked by Trolls and scared for their lives?

You obviously haven't followed Bitcoin development on GitHub. There is a " intelligent benign leadership" very much in place, and it has nothing to do with BF. Developers with Gavin as head wouldn't listen to BF if they think something BF is pushing is not good for Bitcoin. All people who's influence on development is significant are employed by large Bitcoin startups, and are very much interested for Bitcoin to succeed so those startups get to successful IPOs when they would monetize their role as core developers. There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much.

There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much

Again

[furious masturbation]


...aaand

The same can be said for those who went long, especially those at 260-290. 

Just 600???
What about those who tried to make money when BTC was $1200, it was actually being compared to Gold, and it all f**ked up those (sincere and innocent newbie people) who invested at that stage thinking BTC will jump to $10k...

Inca, how much have you lost in the last few minutes?  Ballpark figure?

Last November, when China allowed mainland residents to trade shares in Hong Kong and Hong Kong investors to access previously closed off Chinese companies, there was widespread speculation that tidal waves of money would start to flow between mainland China and Hong Kong. Those expectations fell flat—until now.
In recent weeks, and particularly the past few days, the “southbound” trading in Hong Kong stocks by mainland investors has suddenly surged:

Leadership structure you've asked, although it's surprising you already don't know it if you follow the discussions on Github and on #bitcoin-dev IRC channel, where things are mostly discussed: Gavin Andresen delegated day-to-day code maintenance to Wladimir J. van der Laan, who is official code maintainer since last year. Gavin role is now more as chief scientist, doing new & long term code features not implemented in the current release. There are also a handful of guys like Pieter Wuille, Greg Maxwell & Jeff Garzik whose opinion is considered about every major issue if some code change is accepted or not. . Their word is final, and yes I think that's much better then any other system based on what BF board thinks is good for Bitcoin.

There's nothing Bitcoin Foundation can say or do which can make these five guys change their minds about some code change in Bitcoin

This is how a Bitcoin Baron looks like



I'd totally smash him

The article says "an operating system designed for use by hackers".  That can only be Windows. 

This is bullish, isnt it?

Question: how will we know DOOOM when it gets here? Is it here yet? Is it in arrivals?

Oil company sells bonds to raise cash, hedging exposure @$80pb. Now if the price drops below $80pb the company is insured but who picks up the loss? Sure, the original bank who took on the risk but they've also sold part of it on down the line. It may be a Swedish pension fund, a Chinese investment company, an Italian managed fund etc, a Saudi SWF.

But it's possible that in this scenario people go only to cash, or collectibles or gold and shun bitcoin. Who knows? But Bitcoin is certainly out there, not wildly popular but on the conscious fringe of society; a global immutable, trustless, decentralised ledger "secured" by a digital token. Fair play if you want to talk down its chances, but it is at least worth having a small stake; the risk / reward ratio is high.

who is with me holding and buying?  



EDIT: **** YOU BEARS 

Does anyone else here like using the golden ratio in bitcoin, or am I just being delusional before the drop to double digits?

Bitcoin blamed... etc.

True, so we should take it as an opportunity and be happy instead of crying about the price being low if you haven't bought any at higher prices I guess...

What are the bears going to do when they've destroyed bitcoin?

Something can't be profitable when you've killed it.

Then why are they so stupid? If everyone just bought more bitcoins, price could only go up and then we wood all be rich. It's so simple why can't they even understand its so simple and just start buying! How stupid they are? Brainwashed by government schools and socialist television propoganda because now that healthcare is free they dont even want to work. And fiat is a pyramid scheme anyway, did they think of that? Did you know that fiat today is printed out of thin air, and all they talk about on tv is hilary duff emma stone and andrew garfield!
Is It Over?!?

People dont say hello anymore kids dont know the meaning of value. Last night a gay man was doing something behind the school. And were just supposed to pretend that nothing is wrong?

The BrExit scenario is being rumored for sometime now and after the Greek paradigm (which is heading towards a disaster) after the political EU leaders have proved themselves incapable to decide just for to 0.3% of the EU's GDP.

History has shown that in order for a new system to reign, the old one must be burnt.

Sleep is the enemy

It will be interesting to see who decides to use that forum though.

Even more nostalgia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430.0

No kidding...

He got me in the moral outrage. That's my weakness

Nothing failed at 300. Bull whales could have pushed us through easily.


What you think the price is going down forever because a line on a chart points down?

and short covering back up into the high 2xx's and then a push to end the bear market exponential trendline.

Looks like Gavin and core devs about to upgrade to the penthouse suite:

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/590884520318078976

Get out from the Bitcoin Foundation shack and into the 5 star MIT estate.

No more cup o noodles and tuna fish for the core devs.  Lobster and New England Clam Chowdah babee!!!

Then again, the question on everyone's mind: why the F-- are you here, in the Bitcoin spec forum.  Day. After. Day. After. Day. After. Day. After. Day.

You believe that you can change the minds of a few longs that MIGHT happen across your posts?  Most of your readers are gonna be a few day traders and trolls.  That's it.

C'mon dude, the majority of bitcoin believers in the world don't even speak or read English. They certainly wouldn't spend most of their time here, hanging on your every word. So you are wasting your breath and everyone's time.

Go write some dissenting blogs, articles, white papers, something other than trolling this spec sub.

In a market this small and illiquid, we are going up when someone decides to buy lots of BTC, and going down when people decide to sell lots of BTC.

In 4 years of watching BTC prices, have yet to see any chart predict any of BTCs large moves.

I doubt it.

For a few months this has turned into a pump dump pump dump never ending story.

Oh so now the trolls are the bitcoin enthusiasts on a bitcoin enthusiast forum? Huh... funny how that works out.
Anyways I bought a heap of cheap coins early this week, should have waited until today, but oh well. It won't matter when the next bull run initiates.

If even a small percentage of Greeks' wealth or whatever is left of it is converted to bitcoin, then that will be noted quite well in a march upwards in price. They aren't going to buy off the grid but on exchange.
This could be an epic front run.

The Greeks are buying in. Trying to convert and hide their wealth.

Because JS won't answer your question I will.

His extreme interest, always with a negative slant, is a combination of:

a) Extreme butt-hurt at not buying when the BTC price was $1, and can't stand seeing free-market libertarians making such easy money, so he wants it to crash to near zero, not so that he can buy cheap, but to see all BTC holders brutally punished for their hubris.
b) His inflationista perspective which rejects a Bitcoin or other decentralized cryptocurrency-based world economy which would make all governments have to run balanced budgets, reining in Big Government, the massive socialist states, nanny-states, and surveillance states.

no, I simply gave up the assumption you were a rational interlocutor, which makes discussion with you pointless.

in addition it is quite evident you use this and other fora to deploy obsessive and egocentric aspects of your personality, aiming to ensnare others in your head game. in fact, you satisfy at least 10 of the following 14 long-established troll criteria:

http://pluperfecter.blogspot.com/2011/08/14-characteristics-of-classic-internet.html

conclusion: ignore.

I am certain Stolfi understood. If you didn't, I suggest you complete basic schooling.

Apparently Fidor are coming to the UK also!

This is the same bank that in Germany has dealt with bitcoin customers for about 2 years...



https://www.fidorbank.uk/

https://twitter.com/FidorUK

A teacher that can't help you understand something?

You must be really good at your job.

Waiting for priceaction was never easier (more predictable).

You, Tarmi and NLC?

idk, I might not make it

AFAIK, this is likely in 3 hours. Could be epic or just fizzle out. But I have set a timer to alert me

Congratulation to your 5$ profit!! I am really happy for you  

Anybody with half a brain will HODL until we get into the thousands (USD).

You have to think big (zoom out), we are in between 0 and 1.

I am curious how much Bitcoin will be worth in say like, a year from now.
Just like all of you.
Any substantiated speculation on that around?

The BTC price was/is ~297 USD in some South African exchange.  It seems that a local Ponzi shcheme (Kipi) is demanding an urgent payment in bitcoin from all members, otherwise they will lose all their investment:
http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34lvmc/btc_is_trading_at_equivalent_of_297878_usd_on_the/cqw0025

Exeunt omnes in 3... 2... 1...

I've never heard of this kipi thing. This bs is giving bitcoin a bad name.

I'll break my rule not to quote people on my ignore list, because I see this too often.

I don't think the SA (Saudi Arabia) government will take any actions. I suspect you confused SA for ZA. Not that the ZA government will take any actions, but still.

Music to my ears.
Suck ass shorters

"My assumption is bitcoin has at least one more bubble in it even if it fails as an alternative private currency."

Private currency, huh? That says it all.

I sort of disagree a bit. I think it will matter in the short term. I think this is a green light for many financial actors. I also think speculators are going to start pricing this event into the price of XBT fairly immediately.

And even though their investment isn't purely a buy in into the bitcoin currency I think this talk about "investing in the network", as if it is completely independent of the currency, is just a way of deflecting criticism. GS are dipping their toes into the currency. The transactions will happen on the Bitcoin network with XBT units. This is BIG. This is not another "the blockchain-technology is fascinating but the currency is shit" kind of statement like we've seen in the past.

Goldman Sachs has boarded the train.

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

You bunch of dicks

I asked for something a bit less than a 66 page analysis and you throw a 318 page book back at me

FFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUU

Don't suckerpunch me just because you can't build a valid argument. If you can't explain it then you haven't understood it.

Nope, I'm on my friggin android phone again. In a setting where I would be an idiot to open one of your links.

I am pretty much the only one who read this PoS, or I'm surrounded by douches.

It is not good work at all, it is elaborate trolling dressed up analysis. Stolfi always uses a small set of deviously well-chosen assumptions to ensure he gets the negative results he is looking for.

Monetary benefits can not be analysed simply by considering a payments network. The broader society-wide, intangible, economic benefits from good, sound money are manifest and difficult to quantify. What we do know is that rampant money printing, like from central bank fiat money, can be devastatingly destructive to whole nations, especially poor people and those not well-connected to government troughs, like university professors.

Ask Stofli to analyse the downsides experienced by multiple devaluations of the Brazilian money? Especially for the victims of those fiat money scams perpetrated by the governments he champions at every turn. He is an unashamed cheerleader for the financial destruction and poverty bought about by all the worst economic theories entrapping hundreds of millions. He is an enemy of freedom of the most devious, disgusting kind.

The broader society-wide, intangible, economic benefits from good, sound money are manifest and difficult to quantify.

Ask Stofli to analyse the downsides experienced by multiple devaluations of the Brazilian money? Especially for the victims of those fiat money scams perpetrated by the governments he champions at every turn. He is an unashamed cheerleader for the financial destruction and poverty bought about by all the worst economic theories entrapping hundreds of millions. He is an enemy of freedom of the most devious, disgusting kind.

I do have to admit I kind of pity Jorge. Going into the history books as a clown and a parody on science. Just let the old fool rant and put up his biased ( academic much? ) non sense.

Do you also blame the dollar when a bank is robbed?

PirateAt40 was a ponzi scam, just because someone runs a scam using bitcoins doesn't mean bitcoin itself is bad. Otherwise the dollar would be much worse. Getting involved with PirateAt40 or Karpeles was a personal choice people made out of their own free will, and I sure as hell made sure to stay far away from both. Against government and banker scams however you have no choice whatsoever but sit still and watch yourself get robbed.

Thankfully for H.H.Dr.Prof Bitcoin is completely irrelevant for his region.



https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=9lJHVYScIuWvygOB8YGYCQ&url=http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/06/bitcoin-argentina&ved=0CDAQFjAC&usg=AFQjCNGFKuMeMdB1FY0aSHGPaJBSjQljeA&sig2=kG2wGvhrW33XVR92hFv4jg


https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=9lJHVYScIuWvygOB8YGYCQ&url=http://www.vox.com/2015/4/30/8521747/argentina-bitcoin-inflation-fad&ved=0CDgQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNEbxKbtpq6lxly8VL4x-3Cc1eFalg&sig2=45mUyZxQtaxvMsRe_B3_1Q

in late 2013 and early 2014 the dollar value of bitcoin dropped from nearly $1,200 to below $600 in a few weeks (the rate has since recovered somewhat).

 in my experience many people who are academics/intellectuals don't end up getting rich because they don't take enough risks.

The second article, dimwit!

It doesn't sound like you are a member of Satoshi Fan Club  

And trolling the internet isn't?

It is just heavily short whales dumping the price lower to prevent buying in response to GBTC trading at a hefty premium to the exchange price. If a 5000 coin transaction goes through then things could get interesting really quick.

a) bitcoiners must develop mature bitcoin ecosystem

But to be perfectly clear these HFT/algo hedge funds make their money on the order flow not the fundamental appreciation of the underlying security

That's a fairly obvious fishing post, although, as you say, not as colourful as before. He's expecting some well-intentioned nerd to respond, only to bombard him/her with text. And as nerds we keep entertaining him. If only they could ban him.

I would think that the Western exchanges like Bitstamp have so little liquidity and so much spread that not even "cottage robots" would find them worth the trouble.  Is that so?

Western exchanges don't yet look ready for the dump, only China. In a couple of hours we'll see who leads the market.

I don't find them funny because I never did. I just needed some flow in my text.

And if you knew anything about logic you would know that logic doesn't say anything about anything. It's simply a way to analyse consistency within a text or a statement. Like this sentence:

"Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own"

which could be seen as inconsistent with this:

"Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about."

Ask your buddy about it, he uses it quite consistently to mislead people.

With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do, so you can lower your shoulders.

With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
___

I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.  

Please keep pointing out flaws, but if you want to be taken seriously I would recommend that you build your own argument rather than keep defending our resident tl,dr-troll.

WSJ seems to have a better chart than the others; the question still remains though, how come and GBTC hits higher and higher and the others are hovering at almost half price...

Ok, I'll show you some TA that will make sense of it all. As illustrated by lowstrife on the left and Jingle Bells on the right, we are currently in the 10th bar. We will be moving between 230 and 240 until the end of the 12th where we will briefly visit the 250 area.

Poor little bears. They canīt even catch a wounded fish floating on the river. This is the bulls time!