You asked for it, here it comes.

Looks like we've found a battleground.

Ah sorry, I made two shorts the same day. One I shorted in Mt.Gox, the other was an OTC trade. At a point I was almost BTC1,500 short of my confort level. Now I have bought both of them back. So sorry, I will not regard you as a douche if you likewise don't call me a liar. Peace?

When will the shit finally hit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZI1eeV88lQ#t=0m42s

Wedge at what scale? I can't find it

bearish wedge coming to a close right now. midnight dump?

Make that: "For the average Joe, Bitcoin is not yet a train about to leave the station."

- But it will be. If not this month, then the next. I called a 1-3 month consolidation in 100-120 area before a supermove up. We are right there even now, 4 weeks after the bubble burst. If I panic buy at 144 meanwhile, it is my own problem.

It has plenty of time to go to sub-$100 in May. Even as of this writing, there is $500k bid volume to 102, which is so pathetic that if I show a wall of 1k coins like I did yesterday, it will crash right here and now. It takes about 45 mins to send the coins.

Despite or perhaps in spite of, what others say I find it increasingly difficult to dislike you.

Hm.
The Chinese banking system is pretty fast. You don't need to have your money sitting around on the exchange waiting.
Bitcoin is any ways.

Btcchina seams pretty legit to me, sold there myself already. Can't say that for the other Chinese exchanges.  

Let us continue upwards.

Only 31k BTC left on the orderbook. Get yours while you still can...
IMO it doesn't matter which price you buy it at right now: BTC is going to the heavens in the coming months.

Sure, until the Chinese wake up

its really hard to say who will get the majority of volume...

Stamps, BTCchina or some other new foreign market!?

I know, I had to rub my eyes too. It says they sold down to 10 CNY, or 1.64 USD - dayyum!

Shit, sorry man. Some kind of nasty hardware failure? I'd have thought the recovery guys could extract the data.

I hope you all here are aware what comes after the euphoria (at the very height of the euphoria) in any market.

It's approaching an ATH on Bitstamp with a tonne of buy orders behind it and you're calling this a bull trap??

After a big bout of selling at record highs, there's a record sum of USD on gox books? That doesn't sound like new money to me.

600.

Fuck me dead.

Thats ummm 120 USD rise in about 3 minutes.

Its pretty obvious he wants to buy right now, but has no funds. With leverage he could use coins to buy coins and volatility during a crash is reduced by large bids and buys.

It is wire.wire within China is cheap and instant

lol wut, they do that over there??

I really hate the XBT nomenclature.. Where did it come from?

The thing about this is you needed to send it last week - like last monday then hope it arrives in less than a week - which it won't.

there was even harder times but Bitcoin survived, what is happening now is effecting the price, it may drop really low, some people will lose confidence and cash out and be done with bitcoin, these never believed in Bitcoin anyways, I saw people moving with their lives all the time, everyone has a price...

but what is happening now is just the last clearing before Bitcoin goes mainstream, some people have to be pushed out, it will negatively effect the economy for a short term period but we need this to happen for the long term health of Bitcoin.

so now you are testing your faith, even you stay or you go out, I can give you an advice, if you want to breath easily and if all of this is stressing you, try to sell some of your coins cash them out do something you wanted to do for so long, go to vacation.... and you will feel much better, I really found that helpful...

gox price has moved. it's now 131.71 instead of 135

You mean Huobi? BTCChina barely has any volume..

I don't understand why ANY of you here would still have funds on mtgox. Mtgox has had blatant liquidity and management problems and been the running joke of this community for almost an entire  YEAR. I removed my funds in AUGUST. We had passed mtgox off as no longer relevant and a facade months and months ago and now suddenly it's a big deal again?

Seems that they removed it fast! Maybe it wasn't meant to be published today.

I am talking about a case in which the private keys have been lost, in which case 750k BTC has been taken out of the total money supply. If they have been stolen (but the keys are still known) it shouldn't have much of an affect.

Not just that. You'd try to open pandora's box. I highly doubt the devs would ever put that into a protocol update.
And even if they did at least a majority of miners would then have to move to that change.
Even attempting this would destroy bitcoin

What is Bankruptcy Protection?

"Bankruptcy protection" is the process by which a debtor is "protected" by a court while they reorganize their finances.

Protected from what? Protected from excessively hasty or harassing creditor actions, such as foreclosures, repossessions, law suits, harassing telephone calls, and the like. A more accurate lay-terminology for filing for "bankruptcy protection" would be filing for "financial reorganization" or "financial restructuring" under Chapter 7 or Chapter 13.

ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR COMMENCEMENT OF A PROCEDURE OF CIVIL REHABILITATION

MtGox Co., Ltd. made today an application for commencement of a procedure of civil rehabilitation (minji saisei) at the Tokyo District Court. This application was accepted on the same day. Further, MtGox Co., Ltd is under several orders issued by the Court : a preservative order prohibiting it from paying its debts, transferring its assets or establishing security over its assets, an order establishing a comprehensive prohibition of forced attachment of its assets by its creditors and a supervisory order ordering supervision by a supervisory committee. In consequence, MtGox hereby informs you as follows.
We first express our most sincere regrets and apologies for this situation and for causing so much inconvenience to all our users and other interested parties. We will fully respect the above orders and maintain our assets with all the necessary care.

    Financial situation, reasons and timeline leading to this application

        (1) As of now, the liabilities of MtGox Co., Ltd exceed its assets and its financial situation is as follows:
        Total amount of assets   3,841,866,163
        Total amount of current liabilities   6,501,119,371

        (2) The increase of current liabilities may be linked to a loss of bitcoins and customer funds. These are now investigated by an expert and all efforts are made to discover the truth. This application was prompted by the following troubles:

        At the start of February 2014, illegal access through the abuse of a bug in the bitcoin system resulted in an increase in incomplete bitcoin transfer transactions and we discovered that there was a possibility that bitcoins had been illicitly moved through the abuse of this bug.
        As a result of our internal investigation, we found that a large amount of bitcoins had disappeared. Although the complete extent is not yet known, we found that approximately 750,000 bitcoins deposited by users and approximately 100,000 bitcoins belonging to us had disappeared.
        We believe that there is a high probability that these bitcoins were stolen as a result of an abuse of this bug and we have asked an expert to look at the possibility of a criminal complaint and undertake proper procedures.
        On the same day (24th), we found out large discrepancies between the amount of cash held in financial institutions and the amount deposited from our users. The amounts are still under investigation and may vary but they approximate JPY 2.8 billion.
        We are investigating the causes of these problems. Since there are probably a variety of causes including hacking by third parties, we need to investigate a huge amount of transaction reports in order to establish the truth. As of this date, we cannot confirm the exact amount of missing deposit funds and the total amount of bitcoins which disappeared.
        Once we discovered that bitcoins had disappeared and the discrepancies between cash funds and deposit balances, we judged that it would be difficult to continue our activities normally and we therefore closed our site at noon on the 25th (Japan time).

        (3) Regarding the filing of a complaint or damages report, an expert has been mandated and investigations have started. We will make all efforts to ensure that crimes are punished and damages recovered.
        Further we will fully cooperate with inquiries from authorities and investigations related to this matter, in Japan or overseas.

        In order to increase repayments to our creditors, it is necessary to explore the possibility of having MtGox Co., Ltd. continue its business. This is why the civil rehabilitation procedure has been chosen, Rebuilding MtGox Co., Ltd under the supervision of the court in a legally organized procedure while giving proper explanations will not be for the sole benefit of the company but for that of the whole bitcoin community.
        All efforts will now be made to restore the business and recover damages to repay debts to creditors. We hope for the understanding and cooperation of all.
    Outline of the application
        (1) Application date February 28, 2014
        (2) Jurisdiction Tokyo District Court
        (3) Counsel of applicant

        Baker & McKenzie (Gaikokuho Joint Enterprise)
        Attorney-at-law Junko Suetomi
        Attorney-at-law Yamamoto Hideyuki
        Yodoyabashi & Yamagami Legal Professional Corporation
        Attorney-at-law Akio Shinomiya
        Attorney-at-law Kazumasa Kawai
        (4) Supervisor Nagashima Ohno & Tsunematsu
        Attorney-at-law Nobuaki Kobayashi
        (5) Investigator idem
        (6) Case no. 2014 (sai) 12Civil rehabilitation commencement application

    Contact information

    A call center has been established to respond to all inquiries. The call center is planned to start on March 3, 2014. All inquiries to MtGox Co., Ltd. should be made to the following telephone number:
    Telephone number   +81 3-4588-3921
    Working hours   Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm (Japan time)

    Please refrain from contacting the office of the supervisor/investigator.

Lose >99% BTC
Lose >40% fiat
Lose database along with customer identity data

Well, Emptygox couldn't possibly have done a much worse job than this.

Lose >99% BTC
Lose >40% fiat
Lose database along with customer identity data

Well, Emptygox couldn't possibly have done a much worse job than this.

They hate it because because they have missed have biggest opportunity in their life.

I find it weird that she would wire $55k to gox only to commit suicide when it when down. She must have known risk was fairly high. Either way she went on way too early.

For example, Cryptocurrency is claimed by China as commodity, not currency. But how can one get that commodity besides mining? By regulation, All banks or payment processors are forbidden to link with exchanges. This means one just can not buy bitcoin on an exchange, as he can't credit his fiat into an exchange in an allowed way.

This results in a funny situation. Exchanges, banks and traders are all doing openly, but not allowed by government. Do I understand correctly.

My question is, why the Chinese government banned Cryptocurrency but allows everything going?

You know it is the same as with the diving board, it needs to go down before take off.

This has absolutely nothing to do with bitcoin.

Using all data since the inception of MtGox gives and Rsq of 0.879, still very impressing:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.msg5739610#msg5739610

Maybe I am not understanding it right, but this month some of their investors who bought shares at 12$ will be allowed to liquidate, meaning that BIT will have to pay them ~60$ per share (and tear those shares up).

The BIT share price is pegged to the BTC price, so if the latter goes down to 300$ before those investors have time to liquidate, then BIT would have to pay them ~30$/share, instead of ~60$/share.   If the BTC price later returns to 600$, BIT shares will go back to 60$, the other investors (who can't liquidate yet) will be in the same state they were before --- but BIT would have saved a lot of money.

That's completely nonsense. BIT is 100% backed by real BTC. If a customer wants to liquidate their BIT share, BIT will just sell the bitcoin at market price.

That's completely nonsense. BIT is 100% backed by real BTC. If a customer wants to liquidate their BIT share, BIT will just sell the bitcoin at market price.

Sorry, I've been missing meetings...where is this from?

As i said yesterday, we would need some fud to get to 550~ish, and bam, new china fud out of the blue, either a lucky guess, or someone who wants a crash had same thoughts

China Central Bank says in its official weibo that the news about #bitcoin trading ban is fake

The Nasdaq Biotech index is getting monkey-hammered this morning and is now 10% off its late-Feb highs. Crucially, this sector has been a major pillar of strength for the overall Nasdaq and that means the Nasdaq is also getting crushed

They look very suspicious. In the Chinese forum they always claim they are "coming from Wall Street", and have been "dealing with derivatives 1000 times more complicated than BTC margin trading (offered by OkCoin and Huobi)"

http://www.coindesk.com/krakens-audit-proves-holds-100-bitcoins-reserve/
No fractional reserve goxbux and goxcoins with kraken and bitstamp and that's provable.

The lesson is never put money on an exchange more and longer than really needed

+1
so do I.
It is a good indicator for me

Thought it was clarified via bter that they were closing third party partners not a blanket ban.

What am I missing about the unbanning of a ban that never happened in the first place?

I don't think he did.  To me it looks like just incompetence and arrogance, at least until the failure became too obvious to ignore.  But some foul play probably happened after that point.



That is correct, but the bare protocol is not enough.  Even of bitcoin succeeds (in my definition, not just as a black market currency) ther will be a need for banks and such things.

and its not we will see, its we're witnessing they're growth.


I see many promises.  As for Silbert's fund, esterday I posted a rough analysis. It seems that the average investor lost money so far (although some have already made nice profits, and the rest may too if the BTC price goes up).  On the other hand, SecondMarket will profit in any case from fees, and perhaps more if they can buy coins below market price, e.g. from a private mining outfit.

I'm pretty surprised to learn he still has a sizable amount there. There was plenty of chance to arbitrage and get out in the last bubble, even with profit.

   

They also gave us the solution: cash.

As of April 24 , all Bitcoin trading platform has been fully recharge way to stop third-party payment . Most bank card remittance channels have been closed , however , are still allowed to bitcoin bank transfer and cash withdrawal services platform .

In the interviews emphasized the central bank , cash function must also be stopped.

截至4月24日，各比特币交易平台已全面停止第三方支付充值方式。银行卡转账汇款渠道大多数已经关闭，然而，仍有银行允许给比特币平台汇款和提现服务。

央行在约谈中强调，提现功能也必须停止。

IMHO, it's really stupid to comment based on google translation.

The correct translation of the last sentence should be: "fiat withdrawal must also be stopped".

Why is a gaming company buying 40k BTC?

In recent postings, you have become quite intense in your FUD spreading.    

Your above post is filled with many unfounded assumptions.   Coins would have to be sold for much below market rate before there would be an incentive to dump.  I do NOT see whey the GOVT would sell BTC below market rate unless there is some kind of collusion.. .for example selling to some big bank that wants to bring down the BTC market.

I figured $0 is end-game for everyone, so didn't bother with negative values... it would be an interesting time when you'd actually be paying people to take bitcoin from you... I'd imagine it to be highly illegal (probably banned 500 times by China by then)

What happened to Loaded?

PBOC can't kill bitcoin. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Ripple is not centralized like many others you still fail to get what it is.
This is totally relevant to this community since it will leverage lower transaction fees, instant money trade ...etc

Ripple is far more powerful than bitcoin whatever you say, A first bank, Fidor, has adopted ripple and it's just the beginning...

Shutdown without notice is not that high I think, the chance of a shutdown notice being published is very likely imo.

Your whole argument fails here. BTCChina was established in 2011 after the $32 bubble. Bitcoin has been opening to Chinese since that was only $2

I don't see no triple bottoms or double tops, apart from the double top we just bounced of that met the last high in April.

Look at the 1-day RSI chart. The pattern is repeating. If that's true, we should keep raising to 700-ish, stabilize at 600-ish for a month, and the real bubble begins at July.

[ ... ] 有安全研究人员发现，国内某知名安防企业的数字硬盘录像机存在安全问题，作为用于存储摄像头视频数据的设备，由于弱口令而被感染了病毒。此外，设备还被安装了比特币挖矿程序。显然这个病毒是专门针对目前的ARMLinux设备，那目前国内的同类型系统都涉及到这个风险。
[ ... ]Security researchers have found that there is a well-known domestic enterprises security DVR security issues, as the camera equipment used to store video data , due to the weak passwords have been infected with a virus . In addition , the device also bitcoin mining program installed. Obviously, this virus is specifically targeted at the ARMLinux equipment , the same type that the current domestic system are related to this risk.

That's a prisoner's dilemma type situation though that could never happen in practice, because one bad actor dumps and takes advantage of the other people holding.

I've been saying it for the last few days and I will say it again. $666 by Monday. Once the walls are removed/eaten that's the next stop. It seams to be a favorite hangout spot and then we will either crash back to $610-$605 or continue our rise. If we break $700 we will see a new ATH before any significant down turn.

He looks a lot like Anders Breivik, I reckon.

there was massive bear traps on the way, i know, i fell in every single one.

everybody goes history does not repeat blah blah blah

But i agree this biatch certainly is doing a very good impression of the same thing ...

Maybe we should say humans repeating their same mistakes or humans not changing their behaviour in the context of (GREED/FEAR)

They are using "4th party processor", i.e. recharge voucher

1st parties are the exchanges and client
2nd party is the commercial banks
3rd party is the Alipay (like Paypal)

PBoC banned 2nd and 3rd parties, so the exchanges add one more layer on top of that.

All noobs and non-believers should have sold during the capitulation. The Chinese who are buying now are those really understand the value of bitcoin.

The latest rumor says that PBoC is going to ban "recharge code":

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

How long have we waited brothers to see the 1 week macd turn green? Its been a long 6 months but we're on the cusp guys.

For examination of the relationship between the USD and Chinese Renminbi (CNY) Bitcoin markets, we use prices and volumes of the btcnCNY market which is by far the biggest CNY exchange.

From that same article: "Caballero’s team has big plans aside from Facebook and is currently working on a universal tipping platform for WordPress, Drupal, Joomla, Xenforo, PHPBB and others."

Those scam coins will eventually be doomed to fail. The main point is Facebook allows crypto coin apps

Have you noticed the drop in hashrate lately. 

Sorry to break it to you, but one of these is not alike.



This formation never occurred in April or November. I really doubt this rally will reach new highs.

My personal opinion: Its done.

Further zooming out you will see this pattern has happened 3 times in a row

Loaded Observer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=73652

Loaded logged-in few days ago without leaving a word  

(If you do not aware, he disappeared since the death of mtgox)

Where's the arbitrage? It's still middle of the week. It's ridiculous how inefficient this market is.

Morning everyone!   Just checked the prices for the first time today, and noticed the little slippage in the pricing...has any big news come out today or just market correction?

https://blockchain.info/double-spends

ghash pls

No, not related at ALL

A private key owner could double/triple/quadruple.....-spend his coin (of course, only one of these could be included in the blockchain). It's not related to mining pool.

very true, its the vulnerability of it all, seems hackers just keep finding ways to steal other peoples coins or get coins they didn't earn or pay for lol amazing

We received your bid request. As your bid request met some of our volume and frequency thresholds, we will have to kindly ask you to help us better understand the nature of your relationship with Bitcoin. In order to do so, we require that an additional KYC (know your customer) procedure is completed before we can proceed with the processing of your bid.

We kindly ask you to answer the following KYC questionnaire:

1. How did you learn about Bitcoin?
2. The purpose of buying Bitcoins?
3. When and how did you obtain your USD?
4. What is the reason for your activity - depositing BTC, selling, withdrawing?
5. What are your future plans and activities planned during your life?
6. Do you plan more of such bids in the future? If yes, how many and why?
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We kindly ask you to submit your answers and documents in a reply to this ticket.

Is this list real?

Seems very unlikely that SecondMarket would enter a bid itself.  Can people see why that would be a big ethical problem?

There is a good chance that the price will be 5k on the day of the btc1k party.

You can pay $650 to buy 1 bitcoin and use the bitcoin to buy a ticket now

No. Just consider it as a lottery ticket. If bitcoin will never reach 1k, you lose the money you spent on that bitcoin (say $650). If bitcoin reaches 1k someday, you still lose $650, but you get a party ticket of >$1k

Merchant adoption is the next step towards global acceptance after the initial investment / speculation phase. It's the next logical step and it's a good sign.

They are not taking dollars, they are taking Bitcoins. And not all of the merchants are selling 100% of the Bitcoins back to dollars by the way.

When people start to realize how easy crazy is to buy things in locally and the internet without the need of giving credit card or bank information to anyone acceptance is going to increase. It's the next natural / logical step, credit cards are a thing of the past and obsolete.

You absolutely have, you just aren't aware of it.  Merchants are charged fees by the CC processors and those are passed onto you, the customer.  Don't think you're not paying for that shit one way or another just because you don't see the charge first hand.

Putting money in bank account may protect you from ordinary theft, but it allows the bank and the government to rob you, LEGALLY.

To prevent insider theft, the insurance company may require COIN to use an M-of-N multi-sig address. N chief officers will generate private keys privately and independently. Each chief officer will physically sign a statement like this:


In case a theft occurred without breaking the vaults, these chief officers would have civil and even criminal liability.

Yes they do.

In other words, you're saying that people attach a speculative premium to bitcoin.  I disagree--there has always been a speculative discount relative to its utility.  This discount reflects the non-zero probability that bitcoin may fail.

First of all, you're doing it wrong.

P is not the exchange rate of the currency - it's the price of good and services.

With M approximately constant, and with V approximately constant, increasing T means that the cost of good and services priced in Bitcoin will fall, a.k.a the purchasing power of a bitcoin has increased.

This is statement is unfounded at all. Electricity could be very cheap in some part of China


So what? The police will just find a computer farm instead of a cannabis farm.

Please, tell me an example where someone lost bitcoins from a properly secured wallet...

I propose you to encrypt the fiat from your wallet: try to give a password to your $100 fiat paper, then you can try to do a brain wallet from them...

Do you know you can try that 'suspicious' address from your car dealer, by sending first a few shatoshis right? Just saying...

I have some sliver coins got stolen. Please teach me how I could recover them.

So just do the same in case your bitcoin is stolen.

This is unsolvable. Please ponder about the definition of 'stolen' in a system where property is defined by 'knowledge of a key'.
There is no way to mathematically demonstrate that a transaction, for example, was fraudulent. Or that if two people know the same key then one is a rightful owner (whatever that means) and the other is not.

He bought the majority of his coins WELL below these prices.

40K of them are still in one address, that I think he still owns, unless he sold them all at once 11 months ago before the bubble.

https://blockchain.info/address/14j6jLececs66ZQ8ew6vTFNiEn2NupacWJ

Second largest addition of hashing power in a day.

https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=180days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

This is what frustrates me about the constant touting of bitcoin as a "store of value." Ask anyone who bought in during 2014 how that's working out for them.

I still remember the day Pirate's ponzi collapsed in August 2012. It crashed from $15 to $7. (I wonder how many here know who's Pirate)

I still remember the day when MtGox got DDoSed in April 2013. It crashed from $266 to $50.

FTFY

How do you know Blitz?

Typical Wall Street

Well ironically the winkelvoss ETF would be a derivative. Their company plans to purchase one BTC for every 5 shares in the etf owned. Unfortunately this is exactly what BTC needs right now to allow the gamblers a regulated environment for purchasing BTC with stupid amounts of money.

Source?

There are only a few million individuals that are part of bitcoin.

WASHINGTON virtual currency Bitcoin (Bitcoin) once touted, Hong Kong discovered bust incident involving three billion yuan. Legislative Councillor Leung Yiu-chung received nearly ten investors in Bitcoin for help, said the suspect was a bit currency trading scams and storage platform, the largest loss of over $ 10 million estimate amounted to 30 the number of people affected, involving an amount or up to three billion yuan, victims today collective police. […]

Never heard of that site, 500 million USD? what? How is that even possible for an unknown site like that to have so many funds?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/news/chron/2015/021815.htm

confirmed!

You speak in what if's with little knowledge of the subject or that mater what "miners" want. No alts for starters...  A larger block size would solve transaction limits as was the original intent.

in any case, if one small group starts to mine this 25mill BTC bitcoin fork, it doesn't it mean everyone else can't continue to mine the original 21mill BTC bitcoin. And there would be HUGE incentive for poeple like me (highly invested but never got a miner) to get a miner and add hashrate to the original 21mill BTC bitcoin.

it would be like this massive cryptonic-hashrate-cyber war
fucking wonderful!

I discussed that "attack" at length in another thread.  It will be a small group of half a dozen miners, but it will have more than half of the global hashpower.  WIth that power they can still profitably mine the 25 M chain and jam the original one so that it becomes unusable and un-mineable. 

So, for the individual miner, he either joins the cartel on the 25 M chain, and keeps earning as much BTC as before, or keeps mining the old chain, and has all his blocks orphaned by the cartel jamming.  For the typical miner, switching should be a no-brainer.

Moreover, each client who has N coins on the original chain will get another N coins on the 25 M chain, accessible through teh same keys, whether he wants them or not. So each client can upgrade his software (at any time, before or after the fork) and use his coins, or refuse to upgrade and have his coins blocked until if and when the "attack" fails.  On the other hand, if he upgrades and the attack then fails, his coins will still be there on the 21 M chain, unspent.  Again, for the typical user, the decision to upgrade should be a no-brainer.

nah probably not... it is more likely 'all of us' bitcoiners will take a nice big haircut during the 'big block of cheese day' which many of us know is coming. too many issues with bitcoin right now. what happens when peeps die and no one can un-encrypt their wallets ?? value goes up because there is less bitcoins ?? if an EMP strikes then no one can buy anything cuz all currency is cryptos .. that wont work because it is a weakness.. one EMP bomb takes out a countries entire economic infrastructure ??

if it does go to 32k+ that would be great because i have a few bitcoins.. but i think gold will be 32k+ before bitcoins will be....

ripple has just as good if not better chance at the new generation of fiat currency than does bitcoin because at least they are straight forward about making more coins when people lose their coins.. eventually bitcoin will be forced to 'create out of thin air' more bitcoins and we all know how that is going to turn out. when tell everyone your never going to make more bitcoins and that is why your different than fiat when you know you will be forced to print more at some point is not being straight forward. and when you finally print more then you are a glorified fiat.. ..... sure its innovating but it has problems that going to take a lot more innovation to be resolved... it is doubtful there is enough time left to fix all of it's shortcomings.

and bitcoin is backed by NOTHING...  it's intrinsic.. hhahhahha.

Wait for the first roll-out of RBF. Not bugs per se, but new, unique gaming opportunities for the clever scriptwriters.

Mind you, they are in such a panic to rush this through, I'm sure there will be some fun bugs too.

RBF could be the 'killer-app' that the alternative clients need to gain traction. With less than 40% on the last core update, it will be interesting to see how many bother.

No one is posting this?