Big wall at 8200. We're going to dip under 8000, aren't we? Damn it.

18 may is Pizza Bitcoin Day, in 2010 laszlo posted an offer to purchase 2 pizzas for 10,000 BTC.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0

In memory of this story, Ledger released Pizza Bitcoin Day version of their wallet Ledger Nano S. Limited to 1337. Price is 119 Euro.




Packaging on point.

But does it support Bitcoin Pizza?

It would be nice if you were just joking, but for some reason I am concluding that you may have carried out this weak hand move...   Shock me and tell me that I am merely unable to recognize a proper joke?   

12000 about mid june/ end of may up to that

compare charts last 4 years

1k sell wall on finex...


great sign that the whale wants us to go up

And so it begins, will this dry the current blood in the streets ? or will more blood be spilled ?
Stay tuned..

RSI 2014/15 levels

over sold indicators peaking

a little lower and there will be no lower

feb 2014 to march 2015 was the only time RSI was lower than now (other than 2011)

 boom coming soon

(mt gox sell off could hold market back for a while though) - meh manipulation

ffs Rampant Sausage Indicator - shows bullish divergence

Did someone say triple bottom?

Not impressed. They look a bit aged and saggy.

$6800 will actually be an "almost triple-bottom". Exact triple-bottom should be at around $6600:

US slaves (aka US citizens) have to accept US gov jurisdiction over their money but I have the power to reject SEC self-proclaimed power. Actually, any country that has nukes to defend itself has such power.

DOJ launching a criminal probe into BTC price manipulation.

Looks like we'll soon find out if the whales are artificially pumping the price

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/doj-launches-criminal-probe-bitcoin-market-manipulation

Seems there is a constant attack on BTC that is ramping up, looks like the powers above have decide enough is enough.

Rebound time it seems, lets see if it holds.

Funny watching the MSM bullshit drama between N.K. and U.S. Trump are Kim are both playing the markets with their sabre rattling, on again-off again empty threats. They are probably laughing their asses off. It's all fake drama, has been from day one.

One of the better in depth analysis why Ethereum will go down in flames and all the other centralised shitcoins like Bcash.

Long post, take a cup of tea and let's sink it in.

https://medium.com/@StopAndDecrypt/the-ethereum-blockchain-size-has-exceeded-1tb-and-yes-its-an-issue-2b650b5f4f62

But... what if technology can't fundamentally support that "too much power" stuff ?

That's what we're starting to see with mETH, and the mETH-heads are too busy getting high on gas to see the forest through the trees.

The forest be burning, yo.

Oh my, the bears are letting go  

Must have been thanks to that song  

Edit : damn, they sure are letting go reluctantly

back down below $ 8k 
now it's touched $ 7500, I hope it will not go back to the $ 7k price.

depends on how many lives he/she has...

Okey so whats next???


Were gonne drop to €3k???

There might be some guys in this thread willing to sell to you..

Rosewater, kingcolex, and a few more

Right into the toilet.

Fucking happy now ?

YAY!!! Nice!!!





Finally!!! This stopped dragging... We gonna have 20k by July/August!!!

This makes me very happy!

We need a huge f^cking dip to get over 10k faster...

The sooner 5-6k comes... the better!

You are setting yourself up for failure, if you are trying to make calls on such short time horizons.   

Proof that the ICO lunacy is going to a whole new level of stupid.

https://nypost.com/2018/05/25/crypto-stunt-on-mount-everest-turns-deadly/

If only the Darwin award had gone to those ICO guys instead of their poor Sherpa.  

Sometimes we see a bit of DOWN, for example, and then we see a bit more of DOWN and then a bit more of DOWN, and it could take bearwhales several days to eat away at the support and really cause the price to go DOWN.  The same thing can happen when going UP with the eating away at resistance....   As regular peeps, we cannot always know how much reserves that some of the whales might have and how many exchanges that they might have their coins to work their "magic."

So, yeah, I also prefer BTC prices to go UP, yet even the BIG and small upward BTC price surges can end up serving as a bull trap if there is not enough ongoing buying support keeping the price going in the upward direction.

We can remain hopeful that BTC prices could go shooting up because in the past couple years (2016 and 2017), we experienced decent price surges during memorial day, but really, I don't subscribe to that "seasonal" price prediction bullshit since in the end, any of us could get caught into some kind of false lull to expect seasonal bitcoin price performance when BTC is NOT a seasonal product - in spite of some HODLers seeming to wish or project such characteristics onto bitcoin.

You don't think DCG, the Winklevoss twins, Roger Ver, Jihan Wu, etc etc etc have anything to do with it? Surely Spoofy and its bag of magic Tether tokens can't be the only one painting the tape.

How they going to make money if their is not some scam or scheme?  Haven't you heard of vulture capitalism?  It is a form of taking something (such as building off of the good will of bitcoin), and then selling off the profits of the previous efforts without paying for those previous efforts.

Well, yeah.

Part of the problem is that they all come out with ICO's because they are looking at short term ways to "get paid," perhaps they even leave bitcoin because they want to "get paid," and they are not happy in itself being involved in the greatness of bitcoin... so they make their own coin in which they can get paid... hahahahaha.. might work for some of them to scam the peeps, rather than really working on a meaningful project.

Those kind of consciousness feelings should not stop you from wanting to get rich, right? 

What is the most important thing?  Getting rich, right?

Yes... .. might seem like joke, but each of us has to find our motivations from the inside to figure out our direction.  What is more valuable to our personhood?  Getting rich fast or getting rich slow?  Each of us are going to come to conclusions that are tailored to our own upbringing and values...... which surely causes the world to go around with variations of perspectives.  There might be some altcoiners who have decent perspectives yet sometimes if they become rich too quickly, then that richness might cause them NOT to carry out their original project that they had said they were going to do, when they ICO'd... and yeah others, had no intention to carry out any project, but instead were just trying to attract money to their pie in the sky white paper.

What kind of person does it make me if I would be equally surprised/unsurprised to learn that either of these two explanations was the case? Am I a conspiracy theorist or a nocoiner?


Oh my god. This could be almost as good as the trump election. Please Kek make this happen. I will sacrifice a chicken to you great one.

Damn when is it gonne stop?
Dropping fast now...

Someone with charts how things looking for now

Just walked outside...

blood

all over the streets


help!

ditto, also since 2013....either, the tax man will come after you because crypto made big $$$ in the future...or will come after you if it all goes tulips in the future

either way, my ducks are in a row also.

hello darkness my old friend...

climbed, fucking phones and their auto correct

not sure what you mean with, volume has claimed.

do you mean calmed?

God Fucking Damnit...

We're going under $7k USD/BTC... Aren't we...

SHEEEEIIIITTTT.

<thefuckisgoingon.gif>

About to call up Grichka and threaten to give him the 'ole what-what, if you know what I mean...

yeah, but, don't you have to update the password periodically for the bank where they pretend your silver actually exists?

Nope... not going to last...

Sell or get burned to the stake!

^


For reversal it needs to do that...

Italy crisis hurting banks...

should we put together a collection?

 

7335 bluh

 Here's a gif conversion of the actual video.
International sandwich topped with international currency.  It's a beautiful thing.  



      вoт чтo я люблю       我就喜欢
              
                      Ich liebe es              Ninaipenda

        işte bunu seviyorum                                     Me encanta

                                         C’est tout ce que j’aime

God I try not to bite to this ridiculous shit. I worked for both NASA and ESA been to lots of bases seen lots of satellites.

How do you think GPS works? or is that also pretend?

Just stupid idiots, and I lost because I replied.

You say that for me?

Unfortunately $100 million means nothing to bankers. They deal in such big sums of money that some of them have started saying a dollar when they mean a million dollars. They would say they spent a hundred dollars on R3, not $100 million.

That sounds like great news but I feel like we're being punked.


It looks to me like the old way for the rich to hide assets is trying to dump their shitcoins on us.


Congrats, I preferred the guess who.


W0w looks they have their tools prepared to track the chain and are ready to monetize. Better not slack any more in opsec.


No surprise, they are doing the same in US now. Rounding up people without moneylender licenses. The bankers don't like competition and they have the law to do their dirty work.




I didn't vote this time because I literally had no clue if we really have found the bottom (hope so) or are just getting played again. But after some thought I do think we have found the bottom though and gone through the shakeout mostly.

Hey, if there is someone left dumb enough to sell at that price, then we need to get there and get those coins bought so we can launch. I know mine aren't for sale until we are over 100k. That could take a few years but if someone wants to sell theirs for 2-2.5, then lets get there!

Dip dip dip dip dip... get a job..shan na na na..sha a na na baa doom.
The Silhouettes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKhbaLyIFw


Finding support at $7.25k? This is also a long period fib from last months sell off. How did all you knife catchers do?   
Would recommend patience while the market finds a direction...once again. #dyor

Nah man, its time for new lows. Market is dead. Below 7000 in 24 hours, below 6000 in 72 hours, below 5000 this time next week.  

This is the second dip in the intermediate bottoming cycle. If we hold $7,000, I see price higher in 14 days instead of lower (the ensuing rally could go over $9,000).

Just hope it doesn't dump too far below $7k. Would be nice to think we're on a slow ascent approaching December.

Hold onto your butts. Choppy waters ahead.

That observation aged poorly. To quote Bob: Sheeeit!

Oh well, at least it's an opportunity to scrape up some cheap coinz.

Do Whales know something we don't?  Just read somewhere a whale moved 30M USD to exchanges.

Whoops, a bit lower than expected but I still think this is one of the better 'bottoms' for a speculative intermediate buy. The indicators have bottomed already and seem to be making a bottom again higher than the preceding short term bottom with the price making a lower bottom than the preceding higher bottom. I.e., possibly a tradable divergence.

But Bitcoin (and dumpers) can always surprise us  

Punk ass Asian whales, last time I checked the price it was $76xx.
What the fuck happened!

So... this means I have to start thinking about making an actual career and stuff?

You're entitled to your opinion.  Just as I'm entitled to continue posting my charts.  After all, this is a forum for, "BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion"

Well, some whale lost his patience, so what? May be he is an early adopter, or may be he bought at 18K-ish and now is furious he lost so much   The price will recover sooner or later. I am still determined to start selling for a house at 40K-ish price. And I will hold 2/3 BTC's until I retire. I don't care if the 2014-2015 scenario will repeat or not. Btw, there are 3 differences:
In 2015:
1.  most of the people didn't know about bitcoin, let alone buying it. Now most of the people know and are thinking about buying. May be they are waiting for a good price or LN  
2.  no hope for Institutional investments. Now Coinbase, Van Eck Associates Corp., SolidX, Goldman and Sachs are ready to start deals.
3.  miners were still very profitable, while now they are on the edge. As from today all home miners in countries with electricity price >0.14$ lost their profit. Soon the rest will follow. Usually this means a coordinated attack to pump the price. We'll see...

Hmm.  It has to hold before I'd call it successful.

Week later:

We do seem to be tracking frightfully close to the accelerated 2014 model.

I tend to be a perma-bear, but this most recent crash feels really artificial.


There really should be no reason for 2014 to recur, since the overall situation is so immensely different, but I also can't help but see parallels. I've always thought that the upward movement after the 2015 doldrums was driven to a significant extent by the 2016 halving, though, which wouldn't apply to a time-accelerated model. And in 2013-2015 the price dropped about 83% from its ATH, which would lead to a price of about $3200 in the current situation.

It is artificial. No doubt about that. And indeed it may look similar to previous episodes, but there is no causal resemblance. My idea is that the financial world has been frightened by what happened last year and knowing their
kingdom is floating on bubbles out of thin air have decided to not let that happen again. They want to prevent people moving their savings out.

Not that I think they will succeed, but it will cause some more pain for sure.

People that invest in the markets are not interested in the companies just the return on their investment.

For bitcoin to grow and achieve mass adoption a small group of fan boys isnt going to cut it and you need large inflows of cash.

Good morning guys.

1h

Honey badger on the prowl..lock up the whiskey and the women.

4h

Looks like Bob left out one of hes shit kicking boots last night..  Any status reports on he's where abouts??


D

From fully erect to limp and tender in a matter of hours...go bitcoin go. Looks like a corrective rebound is forming with indicators at or near bottoms. #dyor

hmmmmm

so it turns out 1 USD is worth .000147 BTC

who knew?

I'm stuck with the one in the middle, since I am a slow poke.  Poor me.   

Different paths had different results. I made a killing on antminer S1 hardware (huge btc/btc gains, but in terms of fiat/fiat during 2014 it was less impressive but still a solid profit) and some well-timed GPU/ASIC purchases while $0.12/kwh was considered *cheap*.

however, i also put several bitcoins towards a K16 avalon groupbuy and got burned on 100% of that investment. Same for investing in asicminer/friedcat (hindsight, right?)

A (big) jump from here will make bitcoin have a confirmed:

-three rivers bottom
-giant diamond bottom
-triple bottom

...and bears will have wet-pants bottom

Thanks Toxic, will try again... .

Third attack also rebounded, but at a serious cost to the wall... . :-)

Too late, just eaten, skin & hair and all... . 

new lows

Anytime. well..most times..  meh..you know what I mean.


--------------
4h


That line held up well over the last month it seems. The bold part above the candles was drawn May 11th. Unsure of what the strike rate would have been but it looks not terrible.

Sigh...

The MM at Bitfinex wants the price down more so down we are going. Wonder what hes capitulation price is..  

Next support is possibly around $6.4k    If that is broken...well..   Everything I have said is bullshit then.  Hope for the best...plan for the worst.

DO NOT SELL THOSE OF YOU ON THE EDGE. This would be the worst time..suck it up and wait until December if you have too..  Capitulation at this point would be a serious error.

I largely agree that Buy and HODL can be a very profitable strategy in bitcoin; however, I personally believe that skimming a little bit on the way up is a more prudent strategy to insure yourself from some of the downside risk and to psychologically help during the likely inevitable weak hands shaking out periods that can last much longer than expected.

On the hand, I get a little bit perturbed by toknormal and some of his ilk who seem to be suggesting a kind of downside inevitability that likely scares folks into making bad decisions by either selling or failing to buy... They have been so wrong in the past, too, but still they like to spin their more downside TA theories without really acknowledging how frequently they have been wrong in the past and failing to account for the exponential price s-curve dynamics that could cause their TA to fail to account for their projected TA dip not to materialize in the real world.

A message like this from a "legendary" confirms this really is the bottom.

EDIT: seems like you're a "hero" but how in the world you've more than a thousand merit and still just a Hero?

Doom most certainly is a number.  We just do not know what it is.  In fact it may be a series of numbers.

Calling all ye boiled frogs!

WTF.

I was not expecting another such blow. Definitely something occurred related to government and some people are anticipating. I'm still buying, but it's hard to understand what's going on.

you guys think  this was the bottom?

Miners won't let the price fall to 5000.
This is only one aspect to the manipulation that’s been going on since September. However if you look at the hash rate, it’s trending upwards, almost parabolically. This is because asic miners are in excess and they can ship them out much faster than last year, when demand was at ATH. Coupled with strange miner confidence in bitcoin which I cannot explain. Even if you ignore hashrate increase, assume miners do not leave bitcoin, and look at the price vs. block difficulty by the end of the year, profitability approaches 0 in all cases from 7500-10000. If miners switch, it can alleviate this pressure, but who will be leaving and who can afford to weather this storm currently? Big farms are more economical than small miners. It seems like an effort to weed out small miners and their coins, while centralizing mining, all while they can make money by liquidating people on longs/shorts. If it wasn’t a manipulated market I wouldn’t believe this, but it seems likely. I welcome regulations and investigations into market manipulation. After all, exchanges are the only ones who can see real volume.

Lightning network is being rolled out right now and it is finally delivering on bitcoins long unfulfilled promise. As far as the technology is concerned these are the best of times since the early days when bitcoin its self was a shiny new thing. I doubt you will regret that move in the long run.

When the price gets you down, focus on the tech.

I just ran into this. This is so stupid.



No shit it can't look like the one on the right. The one on the right is the problem. That's what bitcoin looks like right now and it's the reason why it doesn't scale.

Bcash is an attempt to make bitcoin it's self look like the one in the middle and in so doing give up all of the advantages that come from it looking like the one on the right. Which could be acceptable as a last resort if there were no other option.

Lightning network is a way to build a parallel network that looks like the one in the middle but doesn't replace the one on right in any way. Instead it lives separate and apart from it while being kept totally in check and made benign by the continued existence of the one on the right.

I'm so tired of all of this ignorant anti lighting network rhetoric that I keep hearing and seeing constantly. Do you guys think Ver is funding this BS. It feels like there is just too much of it for it to be organic.


P.S. Do you guys feel this is on topic enough for the wall observer thread. It's not about jews at least... but it's exactly about the price either... I just wanted a place to rant where it would actually be read and it is about bitcoin atleast...

People don't seem to understand that miners can and will mine at a loss.  The only real limit is that it be cheaper than other forms of money laundering.

Seeing as how I have TERA2 on ignore, I dub thee, the new, "official" Bitcointalk Wall Observer "Debbie Downer"

So, why are you so down on Lightning, Debbie ?

If you have a Whole Foods (Amazon-whiteguilthippiefoodstore)  in your area you might procure yourself a bottle of the Don Simon Cabernet Sauvingnon.

It's currently ~ 0.0006 BTC.  You can afford it.

For swill, I find it has a very spicy and interesting palate and it makes all your pain very quiet... not silent mind you... but it shoves it into a cheap sort of grape filled cave in which you will mistake a random rock for a pillow.

It's that good.

You can rinse and repeat tomorrow.

If you don't have a Whole Foods (virtuesignalinguppermiddleclassemporium) in poutine-land perhaps you could try a 2 buck chuck?  

I'll review one of those if need be.

Let me know.

I tried to go out there a few times, to spread the merit.

Its a sad world.

So it was Tether!! I never did a single transaction in Tether and never trusted this filthy monster!!

“Tether seems to be used both to stabilize and manipulate Bitcoin prices,” finance professor John Griffin and co-author Amin Shams wrote in a paper released Wednesday.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-13/professor-who-rang-vix-alarm-says-tether-used-to-boost-bitcoin

A PAIR of lambos? I do not even want to buy one. Why does a lambo seem like a big waste of money no matter how much one has? My car can beat a lambo and it doesnt even cost half as much.

' Bitcoin is a catastrophe for the entire planet'
' Bitcoin is in a state to shut down the internet'
' Bitcoin is not centralised so per definition not stable'
' Bitcoin requires to much computing power/electricity'
' Bitcoin transactions are only possible with large servers/computers'

It's been a while when i saw so much bullshit from bankers, they know what's comming and it is not looking good for them.

The transition to decentralised banking will make them dispensable.

Well well well... what do we have here?

Just finalizing reverse Bart, or maybe we're go higher?

Well cheers.

Just got back from the ballgame and I see both the Jays and Bitcoin won.

Let's see if this holds.

Ballpark beers may be expensive but they sure taste good and work great.

Life is good. Enjoy.

Mmm. Dat smell of rekt shorts in teh morning again...

Pure hubris for Ver, with a side of stupidity.
Jihan had a nice hubris and greed casserole, sprinkled with illusory superiority.

A couple years ago, everyone was puffing up Jihan. "He's an expert in game theory," they said. Maybe he believed it.

MOAR BLOOD! Time for the alts is up. I particularly liked reading about bitmain's (Jihan and Rogers) misfortune with B-cash today.  I'm almost feeling guilty how much I savored it.

BTC DOMINANCE 52.3 and climbing!     BTFD is already happening round here.  Not too concerned how far it drops from here, in fact I'm really hoping for an amazing buy opp. 

Oh man the fireworks have stopped.  At least for the minute.  Back to the salt mines. All of you.

I posted this in a different thread a few days ago, but it seems to be a well-liked chart, so I'll share here:



I didn't make this. Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoKaleo/status/1009156602039971840

I returned from Barcelona on Friday. Spent 4 days there. Met a guy from the US in my hostel (yes I was in a Hostel  ) who was into Bitcoin. He was advising me to invest in shitcoins like ripple, bitcoin cash, ethereum. As soon as I corrected him by saying "it is bcash" he instantly agreed with me but stopped the conversation.  I probably hurt his feelings.

Probably hoping it creates a panic sale & the price slumps to low $6000’s so he can buy them all back a lot cheaper.

Asshole!

Is this the Mt Gox administrator again? What a  turd.

Wow, you are all rich. Now I eat only in the university cafeteria and sometimes I order Chinese food. In this year I changed my lifestyle.

I wouldn't be surprised if people irrationally freak out about it. I could see the price dropping further once more people hear this news. Though realistically, CXBTF was just made available on US markets about a month ago, and its all-time US trading volume looks to be only something like $5 million, so it's not as if a major player in the market was just removed.

According to some apparent SEC quotes on CoinDesk, it looks like the SEC is annoyed by some language in CXBTF's marketing material, though I can't actually find the source of those quotes.

IMO about $1-2k of the price is built on top of people hoping for an ETF (which would probably quickly put the price well above $10k), so any news that hints for or against quicker ETF approval is likely to have major effects.

Sorry but there is no protocol fight, bashers forked off and the market decided.  And if one person can decide the fate of bitcoin, than the value is 0, even if its satoshi himself.

Basicly I think the satoshi coins are burned, if even one of these coins is moved the market will dump so hard, that the current ETH chart will look bullish in comperision.

Pure depression phase...

(6th) February:

Bitcoin: $106 Billion
Altcoins: $214 Billion

Today:

Bitcoin: $108 Billion (+1.75%)
Altcoins: $87 Billion (-60%)

Yes, that's not good news 

#BUY BITCOIN

Who shorted the market?
Why did the government allow this to happen? - LOL

 Wanna bet we break through $6700 by EOD ? 

Garza had good legal representation as he got off with a light sentence. His was the number one cryptocurrency scam I wrote about back in 2015; Litecoin GEAR came in second place.

Anyone want to buy a couple Gridseed miners?  LOL, I still have 2 sitting in boxes.

Gridseed and Zeus Miners were legit companies that made miners they sold under their own brand. GAW also resold them and had Zeus Miners make some miners for GAW that were rebranded with names like Falcon and War Machine. The Thunder was a Zeus made and branded miner.

Yeah, must have been resells.  Have my email still from GAW in March 2014.  Funny, was 400 bucks back then and maybe mined like .1 BTC and various other coins.  Sold all them for BTC probably equaled about .8 BTC.

300+ KH/s Single Gridseed ASIC Miner

2
$189.95 USD
$379.90 USD
Subtotal:
$379.90 USD
Shipping:
$16.72 USD
Grand Total:
$396.62 USD
Payment method:
credit-card
GAW Miners

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.

just wow what idiots to see it so small minded .... let them fear and miss the NEXT 1000% or so 

Mike Novogratz Says the Cryptocurrency Market Has Found a Bottom


https://twitter.com/novogratz/status/1040288811643809798

I'm afraid if he says this... the new bottom to happen soon

I see. So once again I was late indeed. Lesson learned, here too ;-)

Nice of you to tell me about that: I haven't even followed ETH so closely after chickening out of daytarding. Closely watching something I refrained from trading is a sure recipe for either bad blood or some afterthought with losses.

I don't much give a damnn what Bitmain, Roger, and Craig do.* For my part, BCH has the properties that made bitcoin great to begin with. Scaling in a logical fashion, and free of the Segwit virus. From my perspective, it is simply technically better than BTC. Hopefully, the world will awaken to this.

* Well, I hope they keep mining it. Though, the DAA allows for drops in hashpower to be relative non events.**

** Unlike BTC, which lacks this safeguard.

They are not leaders, so much as fellow travelers. They each likely own several times the BTC that you own as well. Does this mean you are going to abandon BTC?

Didn't think so.

Some consistency, please.

Gold pshh let's talk diamonds or better yet let's be hipsters and talk Bitcoin Green.

LOL Maybe we should all talk about Bitcoin Gold. 

Sorry for stupid question maybe..

Is any similar topic to this one about altcoins and their news?
I like this very active topic format but sometimes want to discuss alts also

Absolutely. Roger is not the leader of bitcoin cash. In a permissionless, decentralized, uncensorable system, there can be no leader. Kind of Bitcoin 101, that.

If you can show me an organizational hierarchy, with proof of orders being issued from above, and obeyed below, then you might have a claim about a leader. But you cannot. So you don't.


If he has claimed that BCH is BTC, then that is news to me. Proof?


By the mining giant, do you mean Jihan? Are you claiming that Jihan matches to Roger's orders? Jihan has no choice but to follow Roger's edicts? Some supporting evidence would help your assertion here. Whaddayagot?

Are you being honest?  Roger has been claiming BCH is (the real) Bitcoin for about a year now.

No.

Craig Wright is Satoshi.  You know it.

Today is the 10th anniversary of the Lehman bankruptcy. Returns if you bought stocks at the close that day and held to today...
JP Morgan: +285%
S&P 500: +198%
Wells Fargo: +126%
Goldman Sachs: +93%
Morgan Stanley: +75%
Bank of America: +27%
Citigroup: -51%


https://twitter.com/charliebilello/status/1040943672848736256

Nice recovery
Only surpriced about Citi

It's all so confusing... I thought Trump was the commie with all the Putin dick he sucks.

No pain, no gain.

Ouch. Hope the mortgage company doesn't give you too much flack on exactly how you came up with the money for the down payment. Also, I'm sure the government is going to require their pound of flesh.

haha bubble burst and BTC ATH , what a moment would that be .......
if possible i would wait to but i know if the girl/wife wants it ..... than it has to go fast and no time for logic

Time to drop a truth bomb in here. Never tell any woman how much crypto you have. They do not love you, they love what you can do for them. If they think you have money, they will feel entitled to it.

And down we go.

I won't be surprised if we find ourselves the mid 5ks by the weekend.

Please, capitulate. Stop checking the price every minute, will you?

I will check it for you, don't worry.  O:-)

Going back to $6500 ?

When looking at those criteria, Gemini clearly comes out as the most legit, least scammy exchange.

Years from now people will look at posts like this and say, "Look at these morons trying to indoctrinate children into using a designed to centralize, cashless society slave system that was 100% inevitable to evolve into an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system run by the state".  

You buffoons have not yet noticed all of the most evil dirtbag Jews and tyrants in govt endorse shitcoins like Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and even Goldman Sachs yet?  A lot of people voted for Trump solely because he was disliked by all the right people.  Bitcoin is the exact opposite, it's endorsed by all the wrong people.  There has been ZERO credible Jewish moneychanger or shabbos Goyim attacks on bitcoin by the state yet.  NONE.  If the so called "deep state" - which really just means Jewish moneychangers- actually opposed bitcoin at all, they would have put forth about 1000x more effort into trying to stop it.

Sure, there's occassionally some type of minor inconvenience imposed by some random bank like not allowing you to do some type of bitcoin trading, but that's all outliers.  There is zero real resistance to bitcoin from the very top of govt or the moneychangers.   The market movements (like yesterday) even look like they're being propped up by the same plunge protection team as stocks.  The "deep state" has done far more to promote bitcoin than try to stop it because they want everyone in a cashless society slave system and this is their backdoor to try and impose it.

https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/cboebzx/2018/34-84231.pdf

If you don't wanna go through all that text, here's the short summary for you: VanEck SolidX ETF decision postponed

Love this . just noticed if you tap the transaction amount (eg: $1.2m) it displays the amount of bitcoin

this is Serbia?

When you short XRP now

"The Real Bitcoin"
It's developed my Mircea Popescu and his group. It's a fork of pre-segwit Bitcoin Core. It does not recognize segwit transactions.

Yeah... about that... I dunno, man.

We seem to have at least three camps that are determined to their way or the hiway:
- SV
- ABC
- C0bra

As well as BU trying to play peacemaker, but the result of their role is misunderstood.

SV and ABC each seem to have significant hashpower. This will likely lead to a split -- should each side remain committed to their cause -- resulting in two BCHs.

I've not seen any evidence that C0bra has any significant hashpower behind it. Accordingly, I expect this effort to fail, and if 'successful', be result in such a minority fork that it asymptotically tends toward zero. Maybe even quickly, due to hashpower-driven chain death.

Which leaves BU as the random wild card. Due to the rules of consensus, BU will follow the first chain -- SV or ABC -- to mine a majority block that contains a transaction that employs the new SV rules or the new ABC rules. That is first-in-time. Once the chain contains a transaction with either SV rules or ABC rules, it cannot ever contain a block with the other's rules. That is, subject to a majority of hashpower suddenly deciding to accept the other camp's rules, by creating a block with both's rules. Unlikely.

So rather than 'Winner takes it all', unless some attitudes change, we seem to be heading for 2.1 forks of BCH going forward. Which could likely portend a dismal future.

As said above, I'm hoping for a kumbaya moment.

 https://www.scribd.com/document/389411275/Mt-Gox-Confirms-230-Million-Sale

Bombshell: purchase a Dash Masternode?

Right? Take the united states dollar for example. It's a coin that operates on a master-node type system and it currently facilitates like half the commerce on the planet.

In the early days when the price went up over $200 I started putting some of my coins into alts (LTC, NMC, PPC). Then I realized...I could write a program to make alt coins and just spit them out at a high rate, like 10, 100, 1000 per day. I even considered creating a simple website with a simple form (name of coin, how many, how many pre-mined, mining type, etc.) and just charge BTC for each one. It would then send you the code and executables.

This realization made me seriously reconsider investing in any more alts. When alts can be printed as fast as the Federal Reserve prints new dollars then it's a horrible investment.

Reason for Bcash pump

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-giant-bitmain-files-ipo-prospectus-in-hong-kong/

bcash idiots are like

  Well that's just great! Bitcoin is still going side-wise, my not-even-3-year-old furnace packed it in last night and now I'm going to be besieged by gargantuan mosquitoes!  Have I been cursed?!
Fortunately I made a donation to "Bat Conservation International" a couple of years ago in the hope that it would help them find a cure for white-nose syndrome.  Let's hope it worked; it's time to call in a favour




 edit: Dammit!  I've been duped!  That's a fruit bat.  Brown bats are fuglier than sin so they tricked me with a cuter cousin to get me to donate.  Oh well, I still need the favour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zni31Hy-Jg
Soulja Boy - Bitcoin (Young Drako)

Great. Now everyone has to have one. Just great.   (@FoMo_Fred)

Dont' worry.  Good support @ 5800 and then we bounce to 8000... I hope


 

All right ... who was it that was complaining about sideways?

No one gives a shit about Bitcoin. No one knows what a Bitcoin is. There is no hope. Years and years of slow down-sloping hopelessness. I've come to terms with it already. It's as if this has already happened...I'm at peace. See?

^
Mmmmm for me its only going too be VENOM movie.....

But i do like seeing you Guys doing what you do BEST

Having Fun laughin @ the fucking price and just keep hodling like bosses

Zoom out a bit, and think about the situation.

When you say "we" in the context of this thread, I presume that you are referring to bitcoin rather than to some more amorphous "crypto" concept.

Surely, there is some correlation from time to time; however, bitcoin is not really as much about tech as it is about soundness of money - even though it relies upon tech to achieve its goal, there is nothing really "tech stocks" about bitcoin, unless we are talking about threats to shut down the whole internet (or substantial parts of it) or alternatively some major bug in tech that fundamentally interferes with bitcoin's operations security....

  


You should NOT let your cashflow get so close to "having to" do something that might not be in your interest, which means that you have been gambling too much of your cashflow, hoping for UP...

"we" could go to $3k or to $1k and stay there for 6-12 months, and your cashflow should be prepared for that...

.I am not predicting that such $1k to $3k range will occur, but I am saying that you gotta be prepared (repetition, I know).  but:

^
The hats are F***ing beautyfull

Nice work xhomerx ...... very Nice 

but but they are demanding more kyc stuff

they must must must be legit

I heard you like your backdoors backdoored brah

Oh boy! Psychopathic Jewish faggots taking over the completely centralized shitcoin industry to turn it into a cashless society slave system.  Let us all celebrate!

Did you even attempt to convince theymos or other admins to recover your account?  I agree with you and recall that there were quite a few accounts that were hacked during various periods, and it seems that  that mine, Adam's and quite a few others were hacked in late 2016.  Was yours hacked in 2017? 

I think that there were a large number of usernames and passwords that were stolen (a kind of data breach, if I recall? but it may have also been related to the Yahoo data breach or another one that caused access to info that was also used on the forum?)

I got mine back within about two weeks, and various kinds of attempting to prove my account, which were a bit lame, but it seems that I provided a sufficient amount of info to recover my account.

My second screw up was when I got locked out of my account from a screwy way of trying to recover my password.. I think that was November or December 2016, and I was unable to use my account for over a month.. with my continuous petitioning, but finally admin gave me back my account.

Sure, a crappy one (use braiins' one), but that can't have anything to do with segwit, and Jihan's not processing segwit tx's?

Bullshit. It is well known you sent one single huge wall of text PM arguing over the (im)probabilities that a guy not being the real owner of the account would have put so much effort to write instead of just asking for him account back.

Once the server storage was upgraded and the service restored you got your account immediately unlocked. Since then Theymos decided he wouldn't be dealing with that shit ever again.

Something that it is less known is that Theymos decided to make you a merit source from the very beginning simply out of fear that you would sent him another PM arguing about your suitability for the "job" and the probabilities for the merit system to fail miserably were not that the case.

FACTS.

Hope it fits!

 

Avatar-sized

 

It's looking more and more like the stock market is tanking. Today steered me onto the bearish side.

And yes, I'm curious how correlated bitcoin and the other markets may be.

SO its the 1 year anniversary of this guy.... hopefully people wil doing more research to avoid this SCAM artists and just buyin BTC.

Do not confuse fun and goofy altcoins (like DOGE & Co.) with pure scams (like Bitconeeeeeeect)

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

So let me just recap...


You didn't vote leave for xenophobic reasons, because you have a jamican girlfrend.  I assume she lives in "your" counrty!


You want to leave the EU to be able to make our own laws in the UK, but you don't know what laws they are.  You want the democratic majority to be able to decide as long as the questions asked to the democracy are questions you approve of?

EDIT:  So no current govenment can make any new laws even if the majority want it?
But i assume you do realise we have a diffent govenment from when the referendum was called, right?


 bear in mind, the majortiy of democratically elected MPs are remainers.

Don't confuse fun with smart.

You talkling about the rise of radical Islam?

Up and up
Up and up
Up and up
Up and up
Up and up

What happens 14th july?

that works the other way around when it comes to our firearms mate


cheers from the colonies

there is fpga boosted gpu mining on it way also, not just straight up fpga.

i will be doing both.. have bcu1525 ordered. and a couple cle-215+ coming to (maybe?) revitalize my aging gpu rig.

so fpgas that assist gpus may actually be a way to keep gpus relevant. we will see.

Dude... C'mon... Not cool IMO... Be reasonable.

How about you write off anything that creates its own token.. (other than bitcoin)?  hahahahahahaha

If your account was just stolen, recently, then it seems likely that you should be able to get it back, so I would NOT give up, yet.

Hopefully, they (admin) will freeze (or lock) your original account in order to sort out the matter?

No it isn't. I opened a long position at 6266 and sold at 6269 122 days later. Of course it was a loss because of the fees but I FELT ALIVE AGAIN

Why don't you take such alt coin trading topic to another forum thread?  There are a lot of forum threads about that off topic, topic. 

Of course, I am serious.



WO culture allows for off-topic as long as you are not pumping stupid-ass alts.



Get a fucking grip, kingcolex, with your boredom and take it somewhere else.

If you have not realized by now, crypto is not the same as bitcoin, and the topic is NOT more "related" to this thread merely because it is "crypto" ... you trying to muddy the topic with your bullshit?

if you bring up "crypto" and shit coins in this thread at least you should be attempting to make some kind of connection with bitcoin and NOT be coming off as pumping them for either their shittiness or their bitcoin attack vector aspects.   

 Sure you can have your stupid-ass shit coin hobbies or your desire to hang out with Roger or Vitalik, but take that bullshit somewhere else on the forum or outside the forum because those alt coin topics tend to devolve into pumping of the coins into distraction, attracting shills and trolls to pump their bullshit in order to distract from the thread with irrelevancies and various bitcoin naysayer attacks.   

At least with Roach (not that I agree that roach should be allowed here), there is a bit of a containment of the PM pumping nonsense in the sense that a vast majority of WO participants consider PMs to be less of an attack vector on bitcoin than various alt coin distractions that your seeming current desire to want to stream of conscious into altcoin bullshit, due to your supposed boredom and seeming desire to attract trolls and shills into this thread with your amorphous trade discussion that can easily go in some other forum location?

over so soon?

hmmmm, how the hell am I going to get this cork back in the champagne bottle?

Stop making shit up, and attempting to attribute feelings to me that do not exist, and if they do, they are not relevant. 

You are the one trying to bring an off topic conversation to this thread when there are all kinds of other threads out there (as I already sufficiently mentioned).  So go out to those other threads with your bullshit questions about alt coin trading... and subsequent attempt to suggest that you were wanting to talk about bitcoin and implication that crypto is bitcoin is nearly the same thing... blah blah blah.

Could we not act like small children?

Are you retroactively trying to make a thread connection?  Of course, all topics relate to one another somehow and some way, but that does not make all topics relevant.  Get a grip, kingcolex.


"it doesn't belong here" is the essence, and perhaps you are starting to get it?  Perhaps?  We are now repeating ourselves, no?  or you just want to keep defending your position and arguing that it belongs here?  and attempting to retroactively describe all the many ways your topic is related to this topic... blah blah blah..   Good luck with that.

I think I might bet drunk today. Bitcoin had a good day  .

i think my computer is broken..... was reading about BIG green candles and shiiiit, BUT not very impressed

good its halloween so they do some MOVIE marathons.....



they better be a bit good, don't wanna waste to much time on boring stuff anymore        "like BTC going in a straight horizontal line"
in need for some f***ing action



 

In a sig campaign - can’t wear one atm. 0.01BTC a week, I know it’s not a lot but money is money!
It ends in 3 weeks & no guarantee it’ll be extended so if it’s not I will be in the HAT gang!

Jeez, I had to leave 777Coin. Lutpin goes AWOL. They didn’t pay us for 12 weeks once.

meh deleted for not funny

Yeah, fuck that rambling meat-sack. JJG is such a buzz-kill, d00d.

just ordered this BAD-ass

love limited edition things

Looks like Tone Vays is abandoning you bitfags and loading up on physical silver (And that's one ugly ass shirt.  No wonder nobody in bitcoin has any credibility):

It’s Seoul.
Check the license plate at Aston Martin and it this photo

It’s in Korea

So quickly )

Yep, Seoul.

What place?
Small hint on the next photo. Not Gundam





Oh.. really? I missed something  The whole country is BTC related! But haven't seen here crypto-related advertisement of smth like this 

I usually roll my eyes when I hear "Taxation is theft", but this?

Them wanting to tax the cash in my wallet sounds crazy to me...

Yet you guys are talking about it like it's most normal and reasonable thing.

Mind-boggling.

So Bloomberg's finest got through to a secretary who said 'no idea' and 'nunya bizniz anyways' and an article was born.

Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.

Anyway I much prefer the way the taxes work in NL, no taxes whatsoever on trading including 'cashing out' (should really be called cashing in btw), just a very reasonable taxation on holdings, excluding the first 25k and minus debts. Most of the world is much worse off having all these taxable events like trading. They must all be socialist countries then I guess.

If you're 'merkin, emigrating does nothing to solve the tax problem. They's extract it from you no matter where you be.

You're correct that you get taxed every year, as is customary in most of the world.

You get taxed 1.2% not 1.5% over anything over 25k not 2.5k, minus debts.

Our economic system is not backwards, look up the numbers. Taxing stale money does not inhibit succes. Seems like taxing actual succes (profit in trading) is more akin to taxing succes.

I'd gladly give you a percentage of my wealth if you build the roads I drive my motorcycle on, build the school that my daughter goes to, and there is a system in place whereby I can check and judge your performance, together with my compatriates.

I have Ibian ignored, but I find "cold turkey" works best, provided you aren't a completely alcohol-dependent degenerate, in which case, I understand there may be some possibly life-threatening withdrawal symptoms to deal with (eg: delirium tremens complications).

Emotionally, it helps to treat alcohol with disdain and hatred for a little while. "Fuck this alcohol. Why am I drinking so much and letting it rule my life. I'm the boss of me. I'll show it !!!" sorta thing, and mind-trick yourself into having the fortitude to maintain restraint for a while.

I just had a single Greyhound to unwind a bit. Had another three beers with Rick earlier in the week after he had a rough day at the office.

4 drinks total in one week is progress I can live with, compared to a six-pack-of-beer a day prior trend.

Don't plan on drinking any more this weekend...

It's tough - responsible adulting.

Whoa, holder with a good taste!

Weekend pump likely? I think we might touch 6.7k or best case another ichimoku cloud breakthrough. Worst case scenario another week of sideways action.

I have no time to play the catch up game these days unfortunately, so maybe someone has already said that, but bear with me.

I saw btc slightly ramping up, and some momentum is still holding on Monday. A bit unusual lately.
I also see bch climbing up some.

Conspiracy theory cum SOMA prediction: you-know-who got themselves some cheap corn during the latest low sideways, and they are now ready to prop up bcash for some time - or at least to keep it from falling during the early bull run we've stepped in.

What's your opinion?

the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking

there's always an exception

https://twitter.com/Hotkatchina/status/1055935401142050816
Trying to tame these bears 💫

I don't use to look at the price anymore

but when I do it's $6400.

November 15. Actually way more specific than that. Check the usual Bitcoin Cash info sources. I'm on a plane now, lacking usual connectivity, or I'd point you directly.

What do you use for such notification?

so XRP trash is back on 2nd place

In honor of the Nazi red wave at the polls today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKskpMxK074

(I wonder what those last two words were...)

crumbs you scared me there for a moment till i remembered you're a stamptard.
does anyone actually trade there?
didn't they just admit they're a hopeless bunch of tinkers and they need a new trading engine?
why can't we talk about finex price like every other trading forum on the planet?
could conformity actually be a a good thing?
and aren't we in a new channel?

lmao.. this

That doesn't look good for Mcafee

He's had the theory a while https://twitter.com/NewsCrypt0/status/1035090936475406336
retweeted this himself on Aug 30th

Bitcoin perfume already exists. We are now waiting for Ripple toilet water with the smell of burnt wool.

His paper wallets have just gone up in flames.

RIP

crypto steel though

^thx yo

https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1062293809059512321

Tomorrow we'll wake up in the 4000s aren't we ?