All posts made by Odalv in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
1.
Post 1903730 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.53h):
Stop whining and use another exchange already.
+1
2.
Post 1905034 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.53h):
Mtgox trading engine lag: 16m 6s
3.
Post 1906468 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.53h):
These DDOSs are starting to become ineffective
Fucks given: not two
It will more efective when bitcointalk go down
4.
Post 1967949 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.54h):
$140 looking far from impossible.
$3,6M to 120
30-day Volume (Currency)537,066,463.56 USD
5.
Post 1968826 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.54h):
You shouldn't let someone else suggesting you your trades.
Personally, I'm short.
I will always short after 20-30% runup in 12 hours. Most of the time it gives an opportunity to buyback.
But man -
now it's not the time to short.
[YES] :-)
6.
Post 1969155 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.54h):
come to daddy..
That was a quick $5 drop ...
Was that due to the last 5 posts here?
rpietila panicked
Did sound to me a lot like his posting was an attempt to prop up the market with words more than money
Well he's in good company.
But we now know that he bought
at least 13 bitcoins.
No proof in blockchain. :-)
7.
Post 1998393 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
Bear trap and I'm caught by it!
There are only bear traps in Bitcoin. (when price is below $100,000/btc). :-) But great opportunity to profit fast.
8.
Post 2015841 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.55h):
What is next $100 or $70
9.
Post 2028507 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Looks like time for $122
10.
Post 2028592 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Looks like time for $122
I guess 118/19 - 111 - 124.
Bear trap confirmation ?
11.
Post 2029591 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
I'm fairly sure that there's far more bids today by people who loved China news story than by Chinese themselves
Bitcoiners don't need much incentive to stat buying or selling, just give them a news, fake one will do too and gox is banking on fees
bingo
There is only one WINNER, but there are second, 3-rd places.
12.
Post 2036738 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
13.
Post 2036870 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Looks like no fake $2M
Has it been sold to and I missed it? Or are you making stuff up?
Wall appears @110 when price was $111
14.
Post 2036985 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
I believe whoever had the wall at 100 just moved it forward to $110 to drive the price up even further.
I think it is newbie and try to buy first bitcoin, but maybe new trick I have not seen before.
15.
Post 2038998 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
I have a feeling that goat is right.
It will visit double digits today after all, one last time. Remember to buy yours then!
Don't think so. Anyhow, your prediction skills are state of the art, man.
Thanks. Wonder I have any bitcoins left...
I'll sell you some @ $300k/btc :-)
16.
Post 2039683 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
2.5 min lag
bot was selling(spaming) 5 btc. 0.01-0.001 / transaction
17.
Post 2039818 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Well, I am aiming for 3% clear increase in BTC volume per day - it compounds quite quickly, without being TOO hard to achieve, but my last 3 buy-ins were literally *just* before hard market drops, so I have failed this week, completely - hence why I need a 120 peak, followed by a drop to around 110 to get a good outcome. (I'll still be around 7BTC short of this weekends target)
It hasn't stopped me fighting though!
good luck (EDIT prepare for big losses)
18.
Post 2039892 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Thanks!
Following things in this thread has given me a better insight into the overall market movements, so I am now able to predict trends slightly better now - but I think it'll take me a long time to perfect things - if I ever manage it.
EDIT: Oh, I am already prepared for those - I've had enough already XD
I'm not a trader. But Bitcoin teach me alot. It took me 4 months until found "winning" strategy.
19.
Post 2040457 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Don't think this is happening. No way he is dumping his coins on a Sunday, I would wait until at least Monday, and I won't be surprised if the dump happens on Wednesday. On a weekday that wall has a real chance to trigger a rally.
BTC market is really a joke, $2M usd and a few thousands coins are really enough to move the market at your will, I guess that's why we have so many traders posting how "fun" is BTC when compared to "real" stock markets and "mainstream" currency trading
If you know simply math then
1. 11M btc exists
2. if somebody can buy 15k btc then there is NOT more than 11M/15k = 734 traders trading this amount (700 traders are not mainstream)
.
.
.
3. 80% bitcoiners hold bitcoin for long -> there are maximum 74 traders what can afford sell 15k btc
20.
Post 2040684 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
Can someone who knows more than me please answer this? Zemario provides the most logical argument for this wall I have read today.
Do you want buy HIGH ? Do you want sell LOW ?
Anybody who want buy high and sell low ?
Everybody want to buy low sell high, ... in zero-sum game it is impossible. 99% will lose 1% will make profit.
21.
Post 2040812 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
1% being MtGox.
1% will make profit, MtGox will make profit(maybe 10%), 99% will lose :-)
22.
Post 2063574 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
That is a really scary triangle. We could go to seventh heaven or seventh he'll.
$91 or break through $123 and fight at
$140
23.
Post 2071114 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Holding their breaths. Super low volume, and $109.51 bid wall just removed.
It looks like $110 will fall. Get ready for the cheap coins.
I'm still sitting on the money from selling at $98.99. Hope I get a chance to get back in today
sometimes you eat the bear
sometimes the bear eats you
True. I've used a strategy of taking wins instantly and waiting 24 hours before taking losses. If I stick with that, I have 3 hours before I accept the loss of 9 Bitcoin and buy back in at market rate :-(
Drop from $238 to $104 .. only 4 hours. :-)
24.
Post 2078603 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Push the buying...this will fall like crazy!
113 now... Nothing to push it up. BTC has lost the faith at higher prices.
We want a stable currency not a crazy one.
Let it go down and it will be stable then.
It is stabilizing, right where we are.
You might say that BTC has gained the faith at any lower prices. It's called consolidation. If bid sum was falling during consolidation, then we would see a breakout downwards. It has however been rising. More likely to breakout upwards, only there is no way to know. I am still not all in . . .
There is way too much support growing to ever see the prices you seem to want. The only reason to want the price down is so that you can buy in, and then what? Celebrate when it goes up 150%? It makes more sense that you buy in now, and gain 150% from here, and it would be better for BTC if you buy in now and "only" realize a 50% increase.
If BTC goes down as much as you want, it will do anything but stabilize.
Good points
And yeah, he wants the price to go down so he can buy more, that's what I'm saying: bulls disguised as bears everywhere
Who panic buy the first panic buy the best. :-)
Who dump the first dump the best. :-)
No one knows what to do, but every wants to be rich tomorrow. Manipulation works (hypnotized with $) => bitcoin PRICE now looks like bitcoin VALUE.
25.
Post 2084941 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
This is pretty much my analysis too. I think there's some real powerful resistance at $90, and that breaking $80 is very unlikely unless something disruptive happens and panic is triggered (this is always a possibility with a bleeding edge technology like Bitcoin).
I therefore believe that unless something negative happens we're headed towards a consolidation phase and not a bear market. But the truth is that only time will tell.
All users of Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind versions 0.7.2 and earlier are required to upgrade to 0.8.1 or apply a manual workaround by May 15.
Possible blockchain fork ?
26.
Post 2087118 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Game over, new equilibrium has been found. :-)
27.
Post 2087256 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Has Gox limited or disabled the bots? If so, it's a bad omen when that results in almost no volume... Another indication of how much control the bots really have.
Not to my knowledge. I guess there are simply no buy/sell signals for the bots.
What should a bot do if the market is moving sideways?
The error I'm getting with my bot is certificate verification failed. God only knows what they're up to.
Edit: Looks like data.mtgox.com is using the certificate from
www.mtgox.com. It's amateur hour (or four), guys.
Gox login page does not have
green bar.
28.
Post 2089828 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Gox login:
Attempt to hack ?
29.
Post 2089902 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Gox login:
Attempt to hack ?
Yes. *.mtgox.com has a different cert than mtgox.com. It has always been this way.
I do not understand. I think I always use bookmark(but I'm not sure) -> same url
30.
Post 2091262 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
It's interesting that news isn't affecting the price much anymore. I mean just today,
http://www.gyft.com is pretty huge news. I can go to almost every retail store I normally shop at in the U.S, and pay with bitcoins through them.
Fundamentals are improving as fast as ever, regardless of what the price is doing. Now we just need some of these new exchanges to be successful.
Not affecting it immediately and clearly perhaps but you can be sure it does affect it.
As dull as it is, we need a period of nothing, calm, stability, no panics.
If we manage that for a week or so we can skip the whole slow demise we saw in 2011.
I'm not sure you can set up RULES :-)
31.
Post 2103850 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Cyprus thing is a joke. That was just speculative mania. I will ask you something: have you invested significant money in Bitcoin? If the answer is yes, how long did it take from the first moment you heard about it?
Again: entering into Bitcoin is a lengthy process - first you have to understand, not only what is Bitcoin but also how to keep your bitcoins safe. Then you have to find out how to buy them, and then you slowly start pouring money, just a little a the beginning.
That's everybody's process. When it will come the day that the average citizen will have the understanding and the means to quickly throw a lot of fiat into Bitcoin after the kind of news we had in March, then.... Well, you cannot imagine the kind of huge motherfucking bubbles we are going to see.
I have to agree with this 100%.
It took me 1 week to put $17 cash into an envelope and mail it to canada to buy my first coins. 2 more weeks to have a miner setup and initiated a bank transfer to gox. I consider that pretty fast and that was only possible because I had all kinds of prerequisites already in place (understanding of crypto, understanding of double spend problem, understanding of p2p network). I had to talk to noone to confirm this thing was legit and most likely functional. There was no misleading press or ponzi accusations all over the net either, which should slow the process even more in this day and age.
Average nowadays is probably more like
6 weeks from first exposure to first substantial buy.
We're thinking too short-term. There's all kinds of buffers (delays) and feedback loops in this system that need time to play out.
Seconded. If you're a goldbug libertarian with technical background and high risk tolerance, it's possible you might "get it" and buy relatively quickly, within a few weeks. But that would be very unusual. My experience with anyone lacking that magical quatrifecta, is that it takes months of investigating and being prodded before any action. There are people I've been talking to about Bitcoin for almost two years, are positive about it, but still haven't pulled the trigger.
It took me more than a year of constant (weekly) highly intelligent exposure to bitcoin, before I bought any. It took an additional year and more, before I allocated a significant % of my holdings to it. I even knew of Bitcoin before Mt.Gox opened, and that was purely theoretical and did not interest me.
So expect a large percent of the ones who heard in early 2013, to buy in with significant money in 2015-2016. Unless they are slower to understand than I was, in which case it takes even longer.
I'm a little different. I first heard about bitcoin 15.11.2012. ... 22.11.2012 I was bitcoin perma bull. :-)
32.
Post 2111757 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
We were at $165 post crash.
So the biggest risk to the market is everyone who bought in at $200-$260, who are just waiting to dump everything and exit? So wait, they rode out the biggest BTC crash in history, wait 3 months, just to sell at a loss when the price is getting back up to where they bought in? That seems like poor financial planning.
They dump coins, leave the market, people buy them up, it's not really that big of a deal. It's been going on daily for the last 2 months.
That discounts everyone who bought in at $200-$260 and are sitting on huge losses right now. I'd assume most are looking to bail out of this market as soon as possible but have no choice but to pray for some sort of increase to at least minimize the damage. If we should see a spike back to $160-$180, I'd expect a flood of selling at the peak as people cut their losses and run for the hills. Don't think I need to specify what happens to the markets next...
I didn't say this was the biggest risk to the market, I said your comments don't take this into account. No, it is not sound financial planning but I'd say those who bought in at $260, were not making a wise financial decision to begin with. Unless of course they are planning to go long, which at this point in time, no one knows if it will be the greatest decision of all time or a flop. But let's not pretend there isn't plenty of money that saw the huge rise and jumped in on pure greed, hoping to not miss the train and will look to cut their losses if they can. That was my only point.
Do not worry $260 are quite cheap coins.
33.
Post 2111830 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Do not worry $260 are quite cheap coins.
I hope you're right because I see everyone here as early adopters and then there are the prehistoric adopters.
I don't want ANYONE to lose. This whole convo is simply a glimpse of the sentiment of some not buying or waiting for lower prices.
I'm sure. It is very hard to destroy Bitcoin. But it is easy to manipulate people.
34.
Post 2111932 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I don't want ANYONE to lose. This whole convo is simply a glimpse of the sentiment of some not buying or waiting for lower prices.
Unfortunately I think that is the least likely outcome
But yes, the convo is a bit of the other side of why some of us are not buying now. A lot of people have been speculating as to why some may or may not buy, and that we would all chase after the train if we rally from here. Been hearing a lot of that the last few days.
1. because big players created feeling of fear and pain by pumping and dumping.
2. they will collect cheap coins now. No one was willing to sell before :-)
35.
Post 2112392 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I am disillusioned by just how much manipulation is going on ... it has not cost me anything, but it gives me less faith in Bitcoin and raises the risk premium
what do you expect from an unregulated market populated with a fairly large number of intelligent members? EDIT - I mean: populated by a decent demographic of early adopters with large number of coins, who, if they decided they wanted to manipulate the market probably have the brains and the skills to do so.
how much manipulation do you think goes on in regulated markets?
Fully aware of the manipulation in regulated markets ... took a while to learn enough to understand that the dynamics of Bitcoin were at least as bad
lol, are you different ? Do you want to buy high and sell low ?
1. if you believe in Bitcoin buy and hold.
2. if you want more btc/usd then trade but some win and other must lose.
3. wait until price rise high enough and will be stable and hard to manipulate it ( maybe 5-10 years )
36.
Post 2112842 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
4. Wait for a price drop to justify buying in, or else leave it behind.
^^ This
As I said in my original post re my sentiments right now
That is fine. I'm doing same with my small part of speculative bitcoins. You can keep your $ in bank account or in order book :-)
37.
Post 2113131 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
The idea that people are "slowly" fleeing the market and "slowly" panic selling and that it's just an extended collapse is turning into a bad punchline. The only people left saying that are people trying to get back in at a discount.
I agree with about the oxymoronic use of 'slow' panic
... that don't make much sense ...
However, I dont agree that anyone who wants to buy in at a lower level than this is trying to get in at a discount. There are a lot of assumptions in that. I know that is not exactly what you said, but similar things have been said by many people, so I am just pointing it out that it ain't necessarily so. I am sure there are people running round trying to scare people so they can buy cheaper something they believe to be worth more (I see them!). Some others amongst us just don't want to buy at these prices and see too much risk here and now.
In a bubble collapse, there are often bag holders who are wary to sell at a big loss so hang on for a while and those who attempt to double-down. I got involved in one once (on the advice of someone else. I should have known better) and watched as it took about four months for my shares to drop from 40c to 1c or so after the bust.
I don't think that's what's happening with Bitcoin at all but it's simply not necessarily the case that the deflation after a bubble burst is all that quick.
In the bubble burst from $32 to $2.50 I did not sell a single coin. Instead I've been buying increasingly more thinking: "you idiots, it's just bad press, the fundamentals are sound" and so on. A bit green behind the ears I was back then.
Of course in hindsight it would've been better to sell all and buy back in at $2.50.
On the other hand I recently talked to a guy I got to know in early 2011. He had been mining and sold everything in late 2011 only to discover bitcoin had gone to 3 digits. He now says: I won't buy, it's too expensive.
Just holding on to your coins is not the best thing to do, but not the worst thing either.
Yeah, but hindsight is also 20/20. I'm pretty sure (haven't done the hard maths, and probably won't cause it's the weekend) that if you start from the premise that you'll trade successfully only 50% of the time, buy and hold is a much better approach in the long run than trying to play the market swings.
bitcoin in paper wallet vs coins at exchange (under attack of government and hackers)
38.
Post 2113802 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
what I'd like to know is as infrastructure does develop, who of the early adopters holding larger amounts of coins will actively invest their own profits, fiat or bitcoin into developing it further, and how many will just wait and see, while hoping to grow "richer". How many will just simply wait to "make as much of it as (they) can"...
Early adopters has kept bitcoin alive 4 years (and gone retired(not all) :-) ).. now it is you who has to make next move.
39.
Post 2114651 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I dont know what you mean by the 30 btc comment.
Ok, say I want to sell 4000 BTC for at least $115. I can't do it in one big swoop, otherwise I'll just trigger a panic sell.
Instead, I wait for the buy bids to creep up and sell to them, while making sure I don't sell lower than $115.
Obviously it works as well for buying.
All I'm saying is that I've witnessed someone(s) cashing out slowly.
When I'll be cashing out then first step will PUMP the price.
40.
Post 2114715 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I dont know what you mean by the 30 btc comment.
Ok, say I want to sell 4000 BTC for at least $115. I can't do it in one big swoop, otherwise I'll just trigger a panic sell.
Instead, I wait for the buy bids to creep up and sell to them, while making sure I don't sell lower than $115.
Obviously it works as well for buying.
All I'm saying is that I've witnessed someone(s) cashing out slowly.
When I'll be cashing out then first step will PUMP the price.
How? Walls are closing in, it's less easy to manipulate (on the cheap).
Unless you wait for the mother of all consolidation triangle and try to make an upward breakout.
I will not cash out at the bottom
. (add few digits)
41.
Post 2136251 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
https://mtgox.com/Please wait as the system is under extreme load.
If this message persists, please make sure you have JavaScript and cookies enabled.
42.
Post 2136414 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
best wishes reptilia, but seriously, I don't know what to think about you... you are quite the enigma and I'd rather not be a part of your melodrama.
Despite the fact that about $100k is scammed from me annually, plus I lost 1,100,000m
BTC two weeks back and possibly more last week, the following statement is true:
"I have never possessed the private key to any less than 2,400,000mBTC nor any more than 35,000,000mBTC, at any time since the beginning of 2012."I guess that puts me on the map. I think I was among the wealthiest people in the summit.
enjoy
43.
Post 2147629 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Mtgox trading engine lag: 37049m 45s
44.
Post 2149491 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
This is a STATEMENT from the US Government to Bitcoin. My advice being a US citizen and knowing the reach of the USG...Sell NOW or forever hold your piece. This is going to get worse as the news reaches mainstream media. By then, it will be too late. I'm taking my profit and I'll watch from the sidelines. I'll buy back when the dust settles. Good luck to all.
Just moving coinz from Mt Gox to cold wallet. (but will hold fiat there)
45.
Post 2173699 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
I have heard before that bids can be put in without sufficient funds in the account
I'm not sure if those orders appeared in the order book or if it was something account internal, but I think you refer to this:
TOKYO - JAPAN - April 09, 2013
Orders will only be accepted when there are enough funds available in your wallet!
Dear users, starting on April 17th we will be rolling out a minor change on how people place orders via the Mt.Gox interface.
Until recently, anyone could place a buy or sell order for Bitcoin, regardless of how much funds were actually available in their wallet, resulting in an order showing a "Not enough funds" error status in the Open Orders list.
Starting on April 17th, this counter productive scenario will no longer be possible and will be automatically rejected before validating your order; until you have enough funds in your wallet to match the order value.
While this change should only affect a minority of users, it will however have a major impact on our trading platform and improve our system overall performance.
Regards
Mt.Gox Co. Ltd Team.
Mt.Gox Contact
press@mtgox.comThe truth, as always when Gox something published. :-)
46.
Post 2174536 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
$117.99
47.
Post 2193698 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
what's with all this bearish sentiment.
i guess you been to busy looking at charts to see that bitcoin is on fire!
Most of it comes from the Coinlab lawsuit, the DHS dwolla account freeze and satoshi dice blocking the US.
I think that is a pretty stern combination, but what do I know.
CoinLab lawsuit, finally someone with the balls to take over mtgox in the us
DHS dwolla account freeze , yup its official bitcoin is for real.
satoshi dice blocking the US, LOL like thats going to stop anyone
See, you are purposefully missing the point.
Hint: They don't really look like isolated incidents to me.
you're the one missing the point.
Hint: your bitcoins are safe, and when FUD turns to facts...
Yes what happens when Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt turns to facts?
emotions never turn into fact
48.
Post 2193867 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Yes what happens when Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt turns to facts?
That can always happen, but it can also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. When does being cautious turn into outright paranoia that feeds on itself and infects others? If you look for bad news you will always find it, if you look for positive news you will find plenty of that around as well. Most of us will be biased towards one or the other and try to think of things that reinforces our own position. In the end nobody has a definitive answer, but those who can think with a clear head and stay very flexible one way or the other usually have an edge. But they can be wrong as well.
There is only one bad news. => crack RIPEMD-160 => crack SHA-256 => crack ECDSA ... (I think/believe impossible) :-) so until somebody is able to compute private key from your public bitcoin address, bitcoin will only rise.
49.
Post 2193983 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Yes what happens when Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt turns to facts?
That can always happen, but it can also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. When does being cautious turn into outright paranoia that feeds on itself and infects others? If you look for bad news you will always find it, if you look for positive news you will find plenty of that around as well. Most of us will be biased towards one or the other and try to think of things that reinforces our own position. In the end nobody has a definitive answer, but those who can think with a clear head and stay very flexible one way or the other usually have an edge. But they can be wrong as well.
There is only one bad news. => crack RIPEMD-160 => crack SHA-256 => crack ECDSA ... (I think/believe impossible) :-) so until somebody is able to compute private key from your public bitcoin address, bitcoin will only rise.
The only way would be to generate billions of keys per second, and hope that one of them matches up with someone else. xD
It would still, with a billion keys per second, take a near eternity.
and what about a trillion keys per second?
Trillion is only 10^12 :-) year has only 3 * 10 ^7 seconds => 10^19 / year ...10^(35-19) ... only 10,000,000,000,000,000 years :-)
50.
Post 2194020 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Yes what happens when Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt turns to facts?
That can always happen, but it can also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. When does being cautious turn into outright paranoia that feeds on itself and infects others? If you look for bad news you will always find it, if you look for positive news you will find plenty of that around as well. Most of us will be biased towards one or the other and try to think of things that reinforces our own position. In the end nobody has a definitive answer, but those who can think with a clear head and stay very flexible one way or the other usually have an edge. But they can be wrong as well.
There is only one bad news. => crack RIPEMD-160 => crack SHA-256 => crack ECDSA ... (I think/believe impossible) :-) so until somebody is able to compute private key from your public bitcoin address, bitcoin will only rise.
The only way would be to generate billions of keys per second, and hope that one of them matches up with someone else. xD
It would still, with a billion keys per second, take a near eternity.
and what about a trillion keys per second?
Trillion is only 10^12 :-) year has only 3 * 10 ^7 seconds => 10^19 / year ...10^(35-19) ... only 10,000,000,000,000,000 years :-)
Is that for colliding with someone else, or for finding a specific address? I'd imagine it would be easier to indiscriminately collide with another address that has bitcoins.
51.
Post 2194083 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Yes what happens when Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt turns to facts?
That can always happen, but it can also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. When does being cautious turn into outright paranoia that feeds on itself and infects others? If you look for bad news you will always find it, if you look for positive news you will find plenty of that around as well. Most of us will be biased towards one or the other and try to think of things that reinforces our own position. In the end nobody has a definitive answer, but those who can think with a clear head and stay very flexible one way or the other usually have an edge. But they can be wrong as well.
There is only one bad news. => crack RIPEMD-160 => crack SHA-256 => crack ECDSA ... (I think/believe impossible) :-) so until somebody is able to compute private key from your public bitcoin address, bitcoin will only rise.
The only way would be to generate billions of keys per second, and hope that one of them matches up with someone else. xD
It would still, with a billion keys per second, take a near eternity.
and what about a trillion keys per second?
Trillion is only 10^12 :-) year has only 3 * 10 ^7 seconds => 10^19 / year ...10^(35-19) ... only 10,000,000,000,000,000 years :-)
Is that for colliding with someone else, or for finding a specific address? I'd imagine it would be easier to indiscriminately collide with another address that has bitcoins.
Where is quantum processing in this?
If there was a trillion^trillion addresses that all were active, that wouldn't be nearly as difficult to brute force crack, would they?
QC can be used(theoretically) crack ECDSA (compute private key from public), but QC cannot compute public key from RIPEMD-160, SHA-256
52.
Post 2195029 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Blocking US ips was a smart move by SatoshiDice. It's not worth the legal risk. Americans can still gamble, they can find out how, the website was garbage anyway.
This has wider percussions than satoshidice though if they are affected so is the entirety of Bitcoin gambling sites operating on clearnet.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression is that this is a small issue (from the censorship perspective). You can just proxy/VPN your way to the site correct? And of course then you are good to go, the bitcoin network gives no fucks about who sends coins to who. Unlike with the online poker situation in previous years where the didn't have bitcoin to get around the funding issues and blocking of payment processors, AFAIK.
Isn't that how conservative gambling sites operate?
Well would still be a legal gray area though. Not that it matters much.
Bitcoin is p2p (protocol does not log your IP). If satoshidice says "we are blocking US IP" then if you understand what is p2p you will realize "it is impossible" but if you do not understand what is p2p and Bitcoin then you can "think" they did it :-)
53.
Post 2195042 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Bitcoin is p2p (protocol does not log your IP). If satoshidice says "we are blocking US IP" then if you understand what is p2p you will realize "it is impossible" but if you do not understand what is p2p and Bitcoin then you can "think" they did it :-)
... and YES they did it :-)
54.
Post 2249373 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
Under 10% of people in China own a car. 40% of families don't own a fridge. The average Chinese person has the same buying power an 9 year old american boy. The people in China with money, will buy/hold/sell BTC as they please. Mass adoption in China was overblown, buying a fridge ranks slightly higher then BTC.
Today China's population is over 1344 million. (compared to 313 million United States of America, Population)
EDIT: 538M does not have a fridge but 806M has :-)
EDIT2: almost 3 times more fridges than US has :-)
55.
Post 2249574 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
Under 10% of people in China own a car. 40% of families don't own a fridge. The average Chinese person has the same buying power an 9 year old american boy. The people in China with money, will buy/hold/sell BTC as they please. Mass adoption in China was overblown, buying a fridge ranks slightly higher then BTC.
Be careful of statistics, they can show anything you want. Speaking of which...
China has 1.35 Billion People and the US has 315 Million. Now, the US is far and away the biggest
BTC using country.
Now try to put your numbers together with my numbers. Remove 40% of the Chines population just on account of the fridges for surely if you don't have a fridge you won't have a computer. But hmmm, maybe you will have an android phone. Anyway, we'll play it safe. So, there is another 810 million people, that is 2.67 times the American population. Without going any further, see where I am going? And if we continue to have currency issues peoples awareness is just going to grow.
How many
BTC you think we got anyway?
90% don't own a car. But they're going to use money holding BTC? There is 0 domestic economy in China. Which is their problem.
The people with money, will buy/hold/use BTC. The rest? They weren't a factor anyway.
Any attack by Chinese Govt, probably makes it more popular.
Overall, there were an estimated 254.4 million registered passenger vehicles in the United States.
According to the US Bureau of Transportation Statistics for 2009 there are 254,212,610 registered passenger vehicles. Of these, 193,979,654 were classified as "Light duty vehicle, short wheel base, while another 40,488,025 were listed as "Light duty vehicle, long wheel base." Yet another 8,356,097 were classified as vehicles with 2 axles and 6 tires and 2,617,118 were classified as "Truck, combination." There were approximately 7,929,724 motorcycles in the US in 2009.
RESULT:
USA: 193M cars / 315M people = 61%
CHINA: 10% from 1,315M people = 131M cars
193M cars vs 131M cars is not so big difference
56.
Post 2289056 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
Removed (after 1k was bought)
57.
Post 2289139 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
Removed (after 1k was bought)
I watched it live, looked like it all was bought, and volume is almost 7k so seems right.
there is not buy volume 7k (last hour) Wall removed when volume dropped below 6k
58.
Post 2289175 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Clarkmoody lagged on me... was the wall bought, or removed?
Bought, all of it...
Removed (after 1k was bought)
I watched it live, looked like it all was bought, and volume is almost 7k so seems right.
there is not buy volume 7k (last hour) Wall removed when volume dropped below 6k
I saw it being bought up in bitcoinity.
No :-) only 1,3k was bought from this 6,9k wall then wall was removed
59.
Post 2289251 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Does anyone know of a good way to see history of all trades?
http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ M1 chart
or
http://mogsta.com/btc/ (last hour)
5,366.86 sold
4,677.37 bought
60.
Post 2289399 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
only 1.3k
i hardly doubt
Owner of the 6.9k wall was buying cheap coins, too ( but somebody start to eat his wall ...)
61.
Post 2289444 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
We all see what we want. :-) But reality is different.
62.
Post 2289499 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
We all see what we want. :-) But reality is different.
The wall has gone, that's all that matters really
OK, I have no problem. But why has gone? ... we will make different consequences.
63.
Post 2289517 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Proof that it was bought:
Date - Price - Amount
2013-05-27 19:52:36 - 125.39999 - 0.1744
2013-05-27 19:52:37 - 125.39999 - 0.19978566
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 3
2013-05-27 19:52:38 - 125.39999 - 0.80905375
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:39 - 125.39999 - 0.7968
2013-05-27 19:52:41 - 125.39999 - 0.51803335
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.0159
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:52:50 - 125.00001 - 2.52692387
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.72814844
2013-05-27 19:52:53 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:52:54 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:55 - 125.00001 - 0.17457963
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:52:56 - 125.00001 - 4
2013-05-27 19:52:58 - 125.00001 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:53:04 - 125.00001 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:05 - 125.00001 - 1
2013-05-27 19:53:06 - 125.00001 - 5
2013-05-27 19:53:07 - 125.00001 - 0.65556585
2013-05-27 19:53:09 - 125.00001 - 0.17775732
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 1.27031713
2013-05-27 19:53:10 - 125.00001 - 5.90158194
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:13 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:17 - 125.00001 - 0.17735811
2013-05-27 19:53:18 - 125.00001 - 2
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.235 - 0.012
2013-05-27 19:53:20 - 125.26 - 0.488
2013-05-27 19:53:26 - 125 - 0.59210697
2013-05-27 19:53:31 - 125 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.69666 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:53:36 - 124.87499 - 0.44488987
2013-05-27 19:53:39 - 124.87499 - 0.53289628
2013-05-27 19:53:41 - 124.87499 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:43 - 124.69666 - 0.07999999
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:44 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:47 - 124.69666 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 1.6936
2013-05-27 19:53:52 - 124.69666 - 13.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.69666 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.0801946
2013-05-27 19:53:53 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:53:54 - 124.5 - 0.47965995
2013-05-27 19:54:01 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:03 - 124.44999 - 0.55511013
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.02013288
2013-05-27 19:54:05 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:06 - 124.44999 - 0.17740837
2013-05-27 19:54:07 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:08 - 124.44999 - 0.05493797
2013-05-27 19:54:09 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:10 - 124.44999 - 0.25
2013-05-27 19:54:12 - 124.4 - 0.43362034
2013-05-27 19:54:14 - 124.4 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.4 - 3.17376295
2013-05-27 19:54:15 - 124.5 - 1.82623705
2013-05-27 19:54:21 - 124.44999 - 0.2
2013-05-27 19:54:22 - 124.44999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:25 - 124.44999 - 0.09814
2013-05-27 19:54:26 - 124.49999 - 0.29215313
2013-05-27 19:54:27 - 124.49999 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:29 - 124.49 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49 - 0.4866588
2013-05-27 19:54:31 - 124.49999 - 1.5133412
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.49999 - 0.24550567
2013-05-27 19:54:32 - 124.5 - 0.42846803
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.49998 - 0.02628251
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 0.03051749
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.5 - 7.14492288
2013-05-27 19:54:34 - 124.66566 - 7.85507712
2013-05-27 19:54:42 - 124.66566 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:54:49 - 124.66565 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:54:51 - 124.66566 - 4.64492288
2013-05-27 19:54:52 - 124.69666 - 2.21640001
2013-05-27 19:54:54 - 124.989 - 0.3775
2013-05-27 19:55:07 - 124.8 - 0.18438116
2013-05-27 19:55:12 - 124.28041 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 0.01317586
2013-05-27 19:55:17 - 124.28041 - 11.74464587
2013-05-27 19:55:19 - 124.4 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 3.56
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.4 - 0.00866493
2013-05-27 19:55:24 - 124.8 - 1
2013-05-27 19:55:25 - 124.8 - 0.25230483
2013-05-27 19:55:26 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:27 - 124.5 - 2
2013-05-27 19:55:37 - 124.49999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.49999 - 0.05876381
2013-05-27 19:55:38 - 124.5 - 0.16831054
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 12.506
2013-05-27 19:55:39 - 124.5 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:55:43 - 124.5 - 0.42699999
2013-05-27 19:55:53 - 124.49999 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:55:57 - 124.49999 - 0.20491409
2013-05-27 19:56:00 - 124.49999 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.49999 - 0.03408591
2013-05-27 19:56:03 - 124.5 - 0.11281409
2013-05-27 19:56:06 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:56:07 - 124.4 - 2.3397
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.18442268
2013-05-27 19:56:08 - 124.4 - 0.5
2013-05-27 19:56:11 - 124.4 - 14.55
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 17.25
2013-05-27 19:56:14 - 124.4 - 0.01861133
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.4 - 15.07726599
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49 - 0.37545368
2013-05-27 19:56:23 - 124.49996 - 5.84745979
2013-05-27 19:56:24 - 124.49996 - 0.16599524
2013-05-27 19:56:26 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:27 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:28 - 124.39 - 0.518
2013-05-27 19:56:37 - 124.39 - 0.14939572
2013-05-27 19:56:43 - 124.39 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:56:51 - 124.38999 - 1.60807928
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 2.39192072
2013-05-27 19:56:52 - 124.39 - 0.13446935
2013-05-27 19:56:58 - 124.39 - 0.31607
2013-05-27 19:57:07 - 124.38999 - 0.12114133
2013-05-27 19:57:15 - 124.38999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:57:17 - 124.38999 - 2
2013-05-27 19:57:22 - 124.38999 - 0.1090272
2013-05-27 19:57:23 - 124.39 - 4.0196
2013-05-27 19:57:27 - 124.38 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.37999 - 0.20947047
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.38 - 2.5585
2013-05-27 19:57:30 - 124.39 - 48.86381742
2013-05-27 19:57:31 - 124.39 - 0.3212
2013-05-27 19:57:36 - 124.39 - 4.24559112
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.39 - 36.36993567
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 10
2013-05-27 19:57:40 - 124.4 - 53.63006433
2013-05-27 19:57:44 - 124.4 - 1
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.4 - 77.82007891
2013-05-27 19:57:45 - 124.49996 - 1.98654497
2013-05-27 19:57:50 - 124.8 - 0.26951401
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 1.5
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.899 - 2.9703
2013-05-27 19:57:51 - 124.9 - 0.09
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.7648699
2013-05-27 19:57:52 - 124.984 - 0.32434631
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.899 - 4.472
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 2.51603117
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.984 - 1.03989513
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 7.801
2013-05-27 19:57:57 - 124.99999 - 0.33164658
2013-05-27 19:58:02 - 124.99999 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.9 - 0.0829493
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.995 - 4.29176991
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 124.99999 - 2.62035342
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.00099693
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 100
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 2.5079614
2013-05-27 19:58:05 - 125 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:13 - 125.39999 - 17
2013-05-27 19:58:15 - 125.39999 - 2.425
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39998 - 0.93099348
2013-05-27 19:58:17 - 125.39999 - 0.03900652
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.39999 - 12.83599348
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.499 - 4.4739
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5 - 0.00876965
2013-05-27 19:58:18 - 125.5002 - 0.22677158
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.54723 - 0.37459
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.5625 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.595 - 2.61318027
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.6 - 2.27445936
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.71173 - 0.02205884
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.80823 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.86999 - 18.1773
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.89 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01199987
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.8911 - 0.01193388
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.9 - 44
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.97333 - 3
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99 - 14.5
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99998 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 125.99999 - 11.041
2013-05-27 19:58:19 - 126 - 165.34644307
2013-05-27 19:58:20 - 126 - 1.02731722
2013-05-27 19:58:22 - 126 - 131.7063
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.72433 - 0.02205951
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 125.99999 - 7.50644515
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 300.22576888
2013-05-27 19:58:27 - 126 - 0.55320309
2013-05-27 19:58:30 - 125.99999 - 4.58462163
2013-05-27 19:58:31 - 126 - 16.54148476
2013-05-27 19:58:34 - 126 - 1.14513761
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 172.54924666
2013-05-27 19:58:36 - 126 - 1.99079222
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 15
2013-05-27 19:58:37 - 126 - 5.74897428
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 96.18136507
2013-05-27 19:58:38 - 126 - 44.2698
2013-05-27 19:58:39 - 126 - 1.7381
2013-05-27 19:58:40 - 126 - 160
2013-05-27 19:58:42 - 126 - 49.49946055
2013-05-27 19:58:43 - 126 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:46 - 126 - 11.75500452
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:47 - 126 - 30
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:48 - 126 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:50 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 19:58:51 - 126 - 29.63479833
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 7.67388809
2013-05-27 19:58:52 - 126 - 20.793
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:53 - 126 - 20
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 125.99 - 0.3
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 6.80031
2013-05-27 19:58:54 - 126 - 4
2013-05-27 19:58:56 - 126 - 313.0158
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 1.5873
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:58:57 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:58:58 - 125.99995 - 500
2013-05-27 19:59:01 - 125.99995 - 0.0135
2013-05-27 19:59:03 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:04 - 125.99995 - 25.86361669
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 20.5578
2013-05-27 19:59:05 - 125.99995 - 365.82299143
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:06 - 125.99995 - 2.3
2013-05-27 19:59:07 - 125.99995 - 47.41224976
2013-05-27 19:59:08 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 33
2013-05-27 19:59:10 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:13 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:17 - 125.99995 - 8.9171
2013-05-27 19:59:18 - 125.99995 - 133
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 25
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:19 - 125.99995 - 0.571
2013-05-27 19:59:21 - 125.99995 - 19.62836604
2013-05-27 19:59:22 - 125.99995 - 79.3651
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 9.8016
2013-05-27 19:59:23 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:24 - 125.99995 - 0.2142
2013-05-27 19:59:25 - 125.99995 - 535.4070446
2013-05-27 19:59:26 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:28 - 125.99995 - 2.81960278
2013-05-27 19:59:29 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99495 - 0.80155241
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 10.72038933
2013-05-27 19:59:30 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:31 - 125.9999 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.9999 - 0.01458267
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 0.07217904
2013-05-27 19:59:32 - 125.99995 - 23.5
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 0.08676171
2013-05-27 19:59:33 - 125.99995 - 14.00153
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 19:59:34 - 125.99995 - 21.06959796
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 19:59:35 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 14.5397
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99989 - 11.32017538
2013-05-27 19:59:36 - 125.99995 - 3.67982462
2013-05-27 19:59:37 - 125.99995 - 0.275
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:39 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:40 - 125.99495 - 0.18
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99495 - 0.24161207
2013-05-27 19:59:41 - 125.99989 - 3.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99989 - 16.27331207
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 83.72668793
2013-05-27 19:59:43 - 125.99995 - 200
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 0.1236575
2013-05-27 19:59:44 - 125.99995 - 4.06548291
2013-05-27 19:59:45 - 125.99995 - 2.852
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 51.2583001
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 19:59:46 - 125.99995 - 0.4
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 668.58121737
2013-05-27 19:59:47 - 125.99995 - 0.01
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 5.44691718
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.22 - 44.18301282
2013-05-27 19:59:48 - 125.99995 - 21.31698718
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 0.82707961
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 19:59:49 - 125.99995 - 9.174
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.9999 - 0.08614272
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 19.91385728
2013-05-27 19:59:51 - 125.99995 - 2.9583345
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 10.12916282
2013-05-27 19:59:52 - 125.99995 - 1.43293588
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 30
2013-05-27 19:59:54 - 125.99995 - 54.31588703
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 23.16946213
2013-05-27 19:59:55 - 125.99995 - 0.36
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 19:59:56 - 125.99995 - 0.1
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 0.75657649
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:57 - 125.99995 - 2.03097691
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 60
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 19:59:58 - 125.99995 - 41.56196871
2013-05-27 19:59:59 - 125.99995 - 1.24181
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.9
2013-05-27 20:00:00 - 125.99995 - 2.87355272
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.9999 - 0.07322131
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 0.98992602
2013-05-27 20:00:02 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:03 - 125.99995 - 196.48322265
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.06314733
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 40
2013-05-27 20:00:04 - 125.99995 - 1.72
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 0.31721623
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 6.45904
2013-05-27 20:00:05 - 125.99995 - 11.0159
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 2.5
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 72.5952
2013-05-27 20:00:07 - 125.99995 - 9
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 24.07676145
2013-05-27 20:00:09 - 125.99995 - 41.25428065
2013-05-27 20:00:10 - 125.99995 - 0.00155031
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 50
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:11 - 125.99995 - 15
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 2.21082
2013-05-27 20:00:12 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:13 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 3.9683
2013-05-27 20:00:15 - 125.99995 - 4.6296
2013-05-27 20:00:16 - 125.99995 - 20
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 3.92095211
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 191.72156679
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 95
2013-05-27 20:00:17 - 125.99995 - 2
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 65
2013-05-27 20:00:19 - 125.99995 - 167.64856144
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 10
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 8.9
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 5
2013-05-27 20:00:20 - 125.99995 - 0.746
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 100
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 1.52437743
2013-05-27 20:00:21 - 125.99995 - 12.7122
2013-05-27 20:00:22 - 125.99995 - 1
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99995 - 25.40832645
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 125.99996 - 0.10134438
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126 - 3.73334028
2013-05-27 20:00:23 - 126.30078 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.32052 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.54918 - 0.01066253
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.56999 - 1.762E-5
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66257 - 4.4404
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.66357 - 0.02199069
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.68862 - 0.02826067
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.08939053
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.7 - 0.09190023
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.71281 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.87722 - 0.01
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92825 - 0.37051
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.92883 - 0.01065904
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.93439 - 1.00000001
2013-05-27 20:00:24 - 126.9375 - 0.02492571
Wrote a script in php that calculated total sum bought at 125.99995 (all trades above are bids, no asks).
Bought at 125.99995:
5345.4749053 BTC[/quote
I think .. this wall 6.9k was @ 1 exact price (it was no range)
64.
Post 2289640 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Will sell @ $10,000... is it better to buy @ $129 or wait for $115 ( maybe $82 is even better)
65.
Post 2289731 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
I need input here.
I'm thinking about mailing Gox and tell them to move their C64 server to my living room. I have a 150 mbps connection here and i think that could solve all the lag.
Yay, nay?
They're still saving up for a C64 to replace their ZX81
My phone has 4 cores ... easy to handle millions transaction per second. :-)
66.
Post 2299496 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
It is time to develop p2p exchange (shared order book) and using WebMoney or OKPay for p2p fiat transfers. (maybe google wallet too)
67.
Post 2299679 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
It is time to develop p2p exchange (shared order book) and using WebMoney or OKPay for p2p fiat transfers. (maybe google wallet too)
OKPay? You are kidding. They won't do Bitcoin transactions and they are a nightmare to get money out of.
We need fiat escrow service (some confirmation than money was send. There is not problem with bitcoin because we have block chain and everybody can see if coins was send. And it is easy to build "open source escrow bot" watching block chain. ).
68.
Post 2343420 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
OMG OMG OMG
BUYING BACK NOW! this is exactly how NOT to trade...
don't panic stick to the plan, if it goes way higher than you expected sell more
:-) sell more
69.
Post 2343556 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
this is exactly how NOT to trade...
don't panic stick to the plan, if it goes way higher than you expected sell more
:-) sell more
I don't get it. If it goes way higher than you expected, you should be bitcoinless.
Just joke I did not sold. Sellers try to induce panic ... they wish buy in.
70.
Post 2359404 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
lol what a wallet can have -BTC ??
Looks like bug.
71.
Post 2359514 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
lol what a wallet can have -BTC ??
Looks like bug.
A bug? In the blockchain?
OMG, SELL
SELL SELLInfinite number of bitcoins ... btc value equals zero
72.
Post 2359543 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
lol what a wallet can have -BTC ??
Looks like bug.
A bug? In the blockchain?
OMG, SELL SELL
SELLRipple's debt disease has infested the
BTC blockchain!
Now besides the usually jokes , how the f** is this possible?
A little more realistic answer please!
Actually edit:
It is really possible without considering a bug on the blockchain website?
a) blockchain.info site error
b) bug in blockchain
73.
Post 2380892 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
502 Bad Gateway
74.
Post 2383219 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.02h):
What would be the point of that wall at 124 exactly?
It doesn't make much sense, most of the orders won't get filled unless the wall is broken through, and why would anyone want to sell at the beginning of a breakout?
Perhaps it's not the beginning of a breakout.....
If it did break $124, it would likely be a breakout. Otherwise it won't likely ever touch $124. Putting a sell order there is moot.
look at 2013-05-23(did break $124) then 2013-06-02
75.
Post 2405339 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
:-) ... but on the other hand bitcoin IS one of the best invention I know ( second place ... 1. place is reserved for Internet)
76.
Post 2415134 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
you cannot see the amount of fiat sitting on gox ..
.. but few can see (insiders)
77.
Post 2443541 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.04h):
I think that, like in every market, BTC is regulated by whalemath. Liquidity is an obvious issue and Bitcoin would greatly benefit from a simplification of the exchange with fiat. It's a PAIN to get into Bitcoin. Exchanges should (probably) also work closer together to allow for more arbitrage opportunities.
It would be fine for Bitcoin and traders but not for monopoly exchange.
78.
Post 2493181 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Anyone else feeling a rally?
Detroit going to default, bid side is heavy and we have held the 100 dollar mark nicely? I'm 50% fiat and planning on a buy in.
There are too many people trapped in 110-112 for a rally.
There are only bear traps in bitcoin market. :-)
79.
Post 2502658 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
I've seen enough to pull the triggers, I'm now 100% leveraged long via btc.sx @ an avg of 100.6, with 4 days of funding left as cushion. Targets are in the 104-105.xx's and I'll cut losses if we see 98.xx's again.
game on
Trading with leverage! "Man, I like your balls!"
Is there another way to trade ?
It would be interesting for whales to pump/dump on MtGox and leverage at
http://www.plus500.com/Instruments/BTCUSD 4:1
1. go short CFD at plus500
2. dump at gox
3. take 4x more profit at plus500
4. go long at plus500
5. pump gox
6. take 4x bigger profit at plus500
80.
Post 2502725 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
I've seen enough to pull the triggers, I'm now 100% leveraged long via btc.sx @ an avg of 100.6, with 4 days of funding left as cushion. Targets are in the 104-105.xx's and I'll cut losses if we see 98.xx's again.
game on
Trading with leverage! "Man, I like your balls!"
Is there another way to trade ?
It would be interesting for whales to pump/dump on MtGox and leverage at
http://www.plus500.com/Instruments/BTCUSD 4:1
1. go short CFD at plus500
2. dump at gox
3. take 4x more profit at plus500
4. go long at plus500
5. pump gox
6. take 4x bigger profit at plus500
can get 100:1 at other shops like btc.sx, but slippage and spreads are still an issue.
At plus500 you do not need bitcoin (CFD) ... you sell bitcoins only virtualy (in reality no one is sold .. price at gox is same)
81.
Post 2502809 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Not necessarily true ... depends on the net position that Plus500 hold, how much risk they take on their book and how much they hedge on Gox or other exchanges if they are net short. Not sure how they deal with net long unless they are able to borrow BTC to short.
I think their business model has error :-). They do not buy or sell bitcoins. You cannot buy/sell bitcoin at plus500 ... only make CFD.
edit: you can after CFD manipulate price easy (if you have enough resources)
edit2: even use leverage 4:1
82.
Post 2502993 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Not necessarily true ... depends on the net position that Plus500 hold, how much risk they take on their book and how much they hedge on Gox or other exchanges if they are net short. Not sure how they deal with net long unless they are able to borrow BTC to short.
I think their business model has error :-). They do not buy or sell bitcoins. You cannot buy/sell bitcoin at plus500 ... only make CFD.
edit: you can after CFD manipulate price easy (if you have enough resources)
YOU cannot buy or sell Bitcoins with them .. it is all CFDs. That does not mean that THEY do not use BTC to hedge when and where they can, and I would be very surprised if they do not
I'm not sure they can DO HEDGE (they do not have enough bitcoins) ... beacause they do not know how much I'll short at their platform (and they need 4x more ... if I'll try short 12M btc then they will need 48M. ... and there are only 12M existing ).
83.
Post 2503056 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
so then we are going down (maybe to single number or even negative one :-) ) .. who cares ? (not me .. using FA)
84.
Post 2503105 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Not necessarily true ... depends on the net position that Plus500 hold, how much risk they take on their book and how much they hedge on Gox or other exchanges if they are net short. Not sure how they deal with net long unless they are able to borrow BTC to short.
I think their business model has error :-). They do not buy or sell bitcoins. You cannot buy/sell bitcoin at plus500 ... only make CFD.
edit: you can after CFD manipulate price easy (if you have enough resources)
YOU cannot buy or sell Bitcoins with them .. it is all CFDs. That does not mean that THEY do not use BTC to hedge when and where they can, and I would be very surprised if they do not
I'm not sure they can DO HEDGE (they do not have enough bitcoins) ... beacause they do not know how much I'll short at their platform (and they need 4x more ... if I'll try short 12M btc then they will need 48M. ... and there are only 12M existing ).
The fact is that shorting with leverage crap is a motherfucking scam. It's just gambling in its purest form, but they are gambling with customers money - if they lose big time and go bust, it's their customers who are left holding the bag. The managers who drive the business are just swimming in money pools and are the same scammers doing the very same tricks that trigger the financial crisis in the modern world.
Did you know that plus500 is owned by UK banks, did you?
I only know, it is easy to extract $$$ from plus500 :-) (they do not understand what is bitcoin) Nothing illegal they make bet I'll accept bet ... I'll win bet. Theirs company go down. Somebody makes mistake.
85.
Post 2503272 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Not necessarily true ... depends on the net position that Plus500 hold, how much risk they take on their book and how much they hedge on Gox or other exchanges if they are net short. Not sure how they deal with net long unless they are able to borrow BTC to short.
I think their business model has error :-). They do not buy or sell bitcoins. You cannot buy/sell bitcoin at plus500 ... only make CFD.
edit: you can after CFD manipulate price easy (if you have enough resources)
YOU cannot buy or sell Bitcoins with them .. it is all CFDs. That does not mean that THEY do not use BTC to hedge when and where they can, and I would be very surprised if they do not
I'm not sure they can DO HEDGE (they do not have enough bitcoins) ... beacause they do not know how much I'll short at their platform (and they need 4x more ... if I'll try short 12M btc then they will need 48M. ... and there are only 12M existing ).
Simples ... they won't take that bet . They don't say how much size the bid/offer is good for, thereby (sensibly) always reserving the right to refuse it (or change the price)
They will have limits on how big a position they will take on as a house, and those limits will depend upon how they hedge.
Go try trading 1M on the bid or the offer ... I guarantee you the order wil not be accepted. They are not that stupid.
If none of this is true, you are correct, they have a terrible business model and are really stupid. Dont forget, they trade many, many markets, so this is not likely.
They only need cash and a Gox account to hedge a short house position ... buy some BTC, no worries. They need to borrow BTC to short to hedge a net long ... that is the risk that needs managing.
I think they are trading billions or trillions of dollars so maybe few(tens) millions does not matter. :-) I do not have few tens of millions ... will not try to manipulate. (just idea what may be wrong)
86.
Post 2503309 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
If the company go down (but it won't, because Bitcoin it's still too small) is your money they lose. What you funded in their account and all the gains you did not withdrew. Just like when it's your bank that go bankrupt. All money that it's not under your mattress is gone. The individuals running the business have no risk, it's their customers who are risking their money trusting it to a bunch of white collar gambling scammers
And that's why we have Bitcoin
+1 ... bitcoin is small (much smaller than ruin an company ... but bitcoin can extracts some money and grows :-) )
87.
Post 2503557 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
If the company go down (but it won't, because Bitcoin it's still too small) is your money they lose. What you funded in their account and all the gains you did not withdrew. Just like when it's your bank that go bankrupt. All money that it's not under your mattress is gone. The individuals running the business have no risk, it's their customers who are risking their money trusting it to a bunch of white collar gambling scammers
And that's why we have Bitcoin
+1 ... bitcoin is small (much smaller than ruin an company ... but bitcoin can extracts some money and grows :-) )
True, all that I said is a big picture scenario, Bitcoin is by no means big enough to make a Company like Plus500 to go down. There's really no way.
So enjoy it, my friend
I like bitcoin. Plus500 will stay alive (I have no intentions to ruin Plus500 .. I like them they propagate bitcoin .. I only feel easy money :-) .. why not to hedge with Plus500 1:4 )
88.
Post 2503873 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Yeah, back to the TA debate !!
BTW I am a Belieber in its value as part of a trading strategy. Like you say, its about cutting losses and running winners ... TA often gives a good indicator of entry point but not necessarily direction. Other times it gives a good indicator of future direction but the timing is the risk.
Its one of many tools to have in your Bitbelt
If you only have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail ... thats the trap
TA tells me btc=$39 ... FA tells me btc=$300,000 USD ... current price $100
1) using TA sell ALL ( 2.5 times more ... in zero sum game )
2) using FA keep ALL ( 3000 times more .. no(almost zero) risk )
89.
Post 2513261 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Blah blah blah told you so go up blah blah
My advice: sell your coins while you can
I will have plenty of time to sell some @ $300
90.
Post 2522494 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
where the fuck is proudho(r)n ?
He clearly stated he left us and that he never really meant a thing he said... I think he'll come back if it ever goes above 250 again.
he left only speculation forum
91.
Post 2524416 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
Was there a big wall at 105 today that disappeared or am I imagining stuff?
$19k to 100 USD/BTC
$42k to 90 USD/BTC
$64k to 80 USD/BTC (yesterday $53k,
$37 few days ago)
Edit: as you can see @
http://blockchained.com/ (bid sum [kUSD])
Edit2: growing and fast :-) (but who knows)
Edit3:
"chooo chooo" :-)
92.
Post 2524827 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
According to Moody, there are bids totaling more than $50 million in the $0 - $2.50 range.
It isn't difficult to manipulate the total bid sum. All you need to do is place lots of bids far below where you expect sales.
max bid sum (range $0-$265) was $24M -> there is not $50M in range $0-$2 (edit: and never was)
93.
Post 2525022 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
According to Moody, there are bids totaling more than $50 million in the $0 - $2.50 range.
It isn't difficult to manipulate the total bid sum. All you need to do is place lots of bids far below where you expect sales.
You need the cash...
Yes, but bids in that range obviously aren't
real support. They will
never get filled, so this must be taken into account when looking at total bid sum.
They were filled (in 2011 .. hacked gox) but gox reverted(invalidated) transactions (from $17 to $0.01) .. and invalidated access to this funds (impossible to withdrawn if you are not verified .. nobody is .. and nobody can verify)
94.
Post 2607348 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
I wonder how many people are feeling this way today
Nah, sell on the down buy at the bottom. But where's the bottom?
$68 (I had a vision) ... but then spike to $300 (not many bought at bottom, not enough time)
95.
Post 2737111 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.10h):
I picked up a few coins today, sort of as insurance in case we run but also as I just hate not having any Bitcoins, yes, outside of 1 Casascius, I didn't have any!
Knowing your fundamental view I must say you have balls of steel sitting there with no coins...
Maybe he sold at $160 and believes tomorrow price will not be higher. :-) (but guy who can afford to lose $200M can keep price above $200 forever (only 20% btc are trading) )
96.
Post 2886829 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.12h):
Volume is starting to scare me. 10kish is ok for a weekend day, but mid-week...
During the peak in mid-April, weren't we around 200k-500kish any given day?
I blame it on the bots. Dont know what they are doing, but it has to be them. They are the only things holding us back from massive volume and $10,000 btc.
My uneducated & uninformed guess is there isn't much to do on an exchange when it's a pain getting the $$$ out.
Or in, apparently.
Please tell me what kind of problem is getting $$$ in gox? Why deposit $$$ when you can deposit cheap BTC.
If you are planning on withdrawing
BTCBTCBTC they are cheaper on bitstamp, or btc-e, or pretty much everywhere.
And if you plan on selling high, you'd be more interested in withdrawing the profits in $$$ (or at least be able to do so).
So: It makes no sense whatsoever to wire gox any money at this point.
No one will send $1M USD at btc-e (or Bitstamp) ..,
97.
Post 2920102 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
since when is it difficult to get btc out of gox? did i miss something?
or is that a prediction for the future?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272454.0There are two more complaints in the main withdrawal delays thread: someone claims he has not been able to take coins out since July 29 and
someone else claims that he always gets an error message saying his IP was banned due to too many attempts - even if he tries to connect with another computer and different IP.He realized error on his side ... two factor auth.
98.
Post 2927397 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
IMO the market isn't following yet, and the whale buyer doesn't want it to follow.
He depletes seller resistance, without triggering a full rally, thus optimizing his purchase cost.
He'll only act when the market is about to buy his targeted coins. If the predicted price rises
quickly to 110, then we'll see another whale buy. And it seems we are going there.
Yep, whales are smart, they are taking their time absorbing all the sellers coins. Shorting BTC is a little dangerous right now for my taste, i'm long since $95
Yes, things are kind of lagging. I'm in since $94 again, after selling at $96 before that. So, sitting on a $3 profit but we might pop upwards here. Is that worth a $3 per BTC profit now?
We are sitting right at resistance, and there is a triple top, indicators a bit oversold, so it might be a good time to sell. But as you guys are pointing out, I get the feeling we might go up as the big buyers are poking their head above water lately. You can't just use TA here.
Not a bad gamble barring a big sell of, which doesn't look real likely. (Like it did at $130 & $107).
Then again, if we slide down, the big buyer might just be collecting coins in this range. (And anyone see that large 5000 ask wall at Stamp. Can you say "Special on BTC here!" to those guys with bank? I don't get why it is just sitting there...
When I look at the accumulation / distribution (weekly / weighted closing price and volume), then we see that the coins are in strong hands (Avg. bought @ $120+) ... so maybe there will be flash crash bellow $100, but a more realistic price is $130+ after holydays.
99.
Post 2927485 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
my prev prediction was foolish, i apologize.
new prediction is under $1 by Friday.
Weak hands without Bitcoin has spoken. :-)
100.
Post 2940616 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
The point here is if you do a normal iTunes backup without encryption enabled, and then move to a new phone with a restored backup all your google auth tokens will be gone for good. Source: happened to me last month.
Actually it was scary easy just to email the services and ask them to remove 2 factor auth so I could login and re-enable. (CampBx, Coinbase, etc)
How they know you are not hacker ? !!!!
101.
Post 2940657 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
The point here is if you do a normal iTunes backup without encryption enabled, and then move to a new phone with a restored backup all your google auth tokens will be gone for good. Source: happened to me last month.
Actually it was scary easy just to email the services and ask them to remove 2 factor auth so I could login and re-enable. (CampBx, Coinbase, etc)
How they know you are not hacker ? !!!!
Don't you know that your email address is the keys to the kingdom in almost all security policies?
Don't you know how to write an email with any sender address ?
102.
Post 2940724 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
The point here is if you do a normal iTunes backup without encryption enabled, and then move to a new phone with a restored backup all your google auth tokens will be gone for good. Source: happened to me last month.
Actually it was scary easy just to email the services and ask them to remove 2 factor auth so I could login and re-enable. (CampBx, Coinbase, etc)
How they know you are not hacker ? !!!!
Don't you know that your email address is the keys to the kingdom in almost all security policies?
Don't you know how to write an email with any sender address ?
Yes. There are obvious problems with using email as the end game of security, but the reality is that is how it works. Plus, I would assume they would only accept requests from the address on the account. (yes it can be spoofed instead of just blank)
Just 3 steps
1. accessing router where unencrypted mail will routed
2. click [Reset password] on exchange (now you know password)
3. send an email "Please remove Google auth."
:-)
103.
Post 2953596 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
$140 will be tested soon (end of september) then "to da moon" (or back to $60?):-)
104.
Post 2954051 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.13h):
$140 will be tested soon (end of september) then "to da moon" (or back to $60?):-)
End of September ... soon ?? That's an eon away
I want instant gratification ... that's what it said on the tin
:-) (be patient ?)
105.
Post 3014534 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
Is this going to happen soon?
It is possible scenario. (observable in the past)
106.
Post 3020800 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
syria is responsible for the current rally apparently
I think the price is affected by the ants and their effect on the corrosion of the earth's axis
107.
Post 3049058 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
When will we cross 150 USD on MtGox?
Big milestone I would say!!
This already happened twice April 7. and April 24. (rally from $140 to $163 in less than 24 hours) :-) Will we see tomorrow the same ?
108.
Post 3065297 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.14h):
No USD wires except the priority 5% manually processed wires are leaving gox.
Anyone know how the minimum amount required to qualify for manual processing?
Obviously the whales aren't having any problem moving fiat in and out.
Maybe this whale is MtGox. :-)
109.
Post 3122480 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.15h):
If you offer a stop loss would you not simply put the coins for sale at the stop loss? How can they end up not being sold then?
Example:
1. imagine you have 10k BTC
2. set stop loss @ $130
=> there is not buyer who can buy your coins
110.
Post 3123195 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.15h):
One hour without a single trade at Gox.
DDoS? Not looking good.
Gox is down
502 Bad Gateway
111.
Post 3161854 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Mentioned by wonkytonky elsewhere.
Look what happened on Sept 4th, the last time they kissed.
Bid-Sum and Ask-Sum are on different Y-Axis, they cannot touch or cross each other, they live in totally different dimensions.
That's absolutely right.
Well, live and learn. I found the mention interesting.
You long these days?
Mostly, I dont like trading in this market because is too unpredictable. Volume is low and there is a scarcity of coins which IMO is artificially produced by Gox's problems. On the other side, the order book at Bitstamp, especially the bid side, is a joke.
I tried to arbitrage with a few k's and I failed miserably. 3 weeks waiting for Gox's fiat until I cancelled the withdrawal. Ill a wait a little to see if I can buy cheaper, and then I'm leaving Gox until they solve their liquidity problems.
I was waiting for good news.
112.
Post 3251195 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
If $140 falls...
I doubt it will until this massive September long Pennant/triangle is over. Seems like it might end around Oct 5 and then KABOOM up we go. If it happens earlier I'd be happy, this thing has taken forever.
Or it could break down... why does everyone keep dismissing this possibility? Every day the required ta levels (Bollinger etc) to do so keeps creeping up (131 now), yet the market depth is failing to follow. In the past 2 months of 140 STILL no market depth has filled in. Its still only 5k to 130 (and trendbreak) and 20k to 120. Total bid depth is now $11.5m whereas 3 months ago at $110 market depth was at $16m! The volume is still low too (8k of today's volume is fake bot error) and ppl keep relentlessly dumping on stamp and btce.
I think it is because this market is easy to manipulate.
113.
Post 3295510 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.16h):
Yes, I hear there's a great market gap in online drug stores.
Or you could create a fork that redistributes FBI stolen Bitcoins.
is this possible?
yes, it is possible to create an altcoin.
114.
Post 3301971 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
So it's spread across like 50 addresses?
it's spread across 50,000 addresses.
115.
Post 3331764 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
Blasting through 145!!!
Looks like it happened 6 times in history (on daily chart) ... :-) is the attempt #7 the last one ?
116.
Post 3331993 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
I have to laugh at myself. I'm trying to go all in right now with gox at .1btc below market, just enough to cover the trading fee. I'm the one sitting there at 144.9 and nobody gives a hoot. .1 is insignificant I suppose and I could just buy at market but don't you think somebody would drop a few cents/coin just to get out? Shows me how insignificant I am in the scheme of things
Why are you trying to go all in right now with gox ? Stamp is -10%
117.
Post 3344157 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
Why are the alts crashing when BTC is rallying?
alt = scam
118.
Post 3344276 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
Why are the alts crashing when BTC is rallying?
alt = scam
A lot of people used to say the same thing about Bitcoin, plenty still do.
It's especially funny when a Bitcoin supporter uses the same arguments against an ALT which were once used against Bitcoin itself.
Transfer all of your stash into scamcoin if you believe in them (and prove it).
119.
Post 3369454 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):
Can someone post some working Mtgox price tickers?
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD
120.
Post 3383862 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):
Watch for CNY 1227 level. That is $200 USD.
1 Chinese Yuan equals 0.16 US Dollar
1218.52 = $200
121.
Post 3410491 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
I will get it checked by my IT buddy.
I will post the bottom prediction (date and price) hash maybe a quarter / month /week before.
Just click "calculate hash"
122.
Post 3410688 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Bookmarked. Thanks
EDIT: I calculated the hash using this website - how do I get privkey to it?
Only publish this hash, so we can verify your message latter - message must have same hash.
123.
Post 3410927 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
No need for priv key, its just a hashing function that allows easy comparison.
Make your data for instance....'it will crash to $40 on Sunday. Xr898912' with the rubbish at the end so it's not easy to reverse.
When you post the hash output, we can verify it on Sunday when you post 'it will crash to $40 on Sunday. Xr898912' by doing the same as you done and comparing the output to the one you post today.
Make sense?
Lets make a test with gibberish data:
1. Let's assume that I post this hash:
63978b5bbe593d9a79813b4decabb35120747623693d89cbffb4c0156610bdfb
2. Am I correct to assume that when I am comfortable I will simply post the content of the pre-hashed data and you will simply compare the pre-hashed data with hash? What service will you use to compare?
Yes correct, we can use the same service, i.e. the previously posted website.
The pre-hashed gibberish data was:
'the price will crash to below 110. xyz'
How would the comparison / verifiction of the message vs the hash be done using the previously posted website?Ok, I understand it now. You would paste the data and then see if generated hash is the same as the one posted by me.
is hash of
the price will crash to below 110. xyz
124.
Post 3458933 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
I think a lot of people are going to get burned come monday/tuesday.
Hmmm. In which direction, pray tell?
We'll just have to wait and see now won't we? I'd say buying or selling right now is a gamble either way. As always, holding is the best strategy
I'm not sure holding $ is the best strategy. :-)
125.
Post 3459489 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):
Gox still hanging around 5,000 24hr volume.
Nobody feels sorry for Gox? Not even a little bit?
Jebus Rice no! They had every chance to fix their shiz but instead they decided slamming their fingers in the car door repeatedly was a better use of their time.
Calling customers terrorists in public and reporting them to the police cuz
Mark is too stupid to read his e-mail is also one of the reason why no one gives a flying fuck about Gox.
Fuck them.
+1
126.
Post 3530853 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
Fear is what is driving this rally. It's not about utility or long term use, but purely fear of missing the boat. "Last chance to get in and get rich". "Last chance to own a Bitcoin." I do believe we're going to break $1000 on this fear and maybe more. The fall however, is going to be something else all together.
The good news is, no one need sell when it dips....because of the below events.
Bitcoin value doubled in 3 months
19 times in a row
It is a nonsense.
a) 2^19 = 524 288
b) $266 / 524 288 = $ 0,000507354736328125
127.
Post 3550264 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
As a UK guy I'm keeping my holdings as a majority on bitstamp cause I trust the UK way more than Japan to get my money back to some degree should this ever happen
And what's the relation between UK and Bitstamp?
Bitstamp is based in Reading, UK
On one hand if Bitstamp ripped me off I could pay them a visit, but on the other hand the Inland Revenue can get hold of information about any trades that I do there. I like the way that the UK and US governments can't touch BTC-e though because it's in Russia
So they moved from Slovenia to UK.
No, of course they didn't.
Bitstamp is registered as a limited company in Reading, UK. I'd be surprised if there's anything more than a PO box with their name on it in that place.
So is this all bullshit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.0Well if you look at our site you probably see it is not like some over-the-night designed system running behind worldpress template. You can also clearly see our company info www.bitstamp.net/about_us/ , company is registered in Slovenia and we are all Slovenian citizens so we are obligated to follow strict laws and not hiding behind some Panama or Cyprus offshore companies. We also work with one of the leading banks in the world Unicredit bank.
We are currently working on some cool new features. I will post all new things here so you can be first to test it. We are always open for new ideas.
Your sincerely,
Nejc Kodricwww.BitStamp.netQuestions? -No problem! Mail me
nejc.kodric@bitstamp.netAbout Us
Bitstamp Ltd.
5 Jupiter House
Calleva Park, Aldermaston
Reading
Berkshire RG7 8NN
United Kingdom
Contact:
General info:
info@bitstamp.net
128.
Post 3554422 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):
The problem is that Gox has had so many self inflicted wounds that when assholes DDOS them no one has any sympathy left.
fuck gox, hope it dies in a fire caused by a train
It is better to have 3 exchanges instead of 2.
129.
Post 3571421 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):
Oh Gawd 23 million in bids, this rocket is going to the moon.
Two more business days and it'l bypass 25 million in bids on gox
I'm not sure there will be sellers.
130.
Post 3585520 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):
I feel a great disturbance in the force.
I'm calling a top here (or very close to where we are now). All that noise about the greenlisting stuff and the fact that even people like Mike Hearn seem to have turned to the dark side is making people increasingly nervous. There will be a huge correction. There will be blood. In order to maximize my profit from the initial shock I'm now increasing the rebalancing threshold of my balancer bot from 11% to 30%.
I think your balancer is out of coins. I'm sorry we go up.
131.
Post 3585556 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):
It is the speculation thread, but I suspect China will follow Stamp and Gox in a massive selloff. They have more weak hands than anybody at the moment, because they represent the most new money. Should the bearish signals prove to be true of course.
They might have weak hands but they cant dump piles and piles as no one there has 10000 coins to drop.
You're wrong. When/if "they" start selling it will be all at once. You take thousands of "them" with 20-50 coins each that Raquel's a heft dump. Combine that with the rest of the world who would love to force weak hands to give up cheap coins and we will see a huge dip.
Enjoy cheap coins.
132.
Post 3585569 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):
gox lag 60 seconds -> panic
Do not day trade or you will end up out of coins.
Buy & Hold (& Learn)
133.
Post 3617492 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):
1000$ by the end of the year?
No before the end of the year ...
134.
Post 3654413 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):
Otherwise the common wisdom does not hold, and 2010 is back.
Care to elaborate on how/why 2010?
He is shorting at BtcChina. So only way how to get money out is buy back bitcoins. (usually with a loss) :-)
135.
Post 3665347 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
I'm not sure if there is a delay, but blockchained is showing explosive amounts of USD sitting on Gox.
$32M ATH (maybe rpietila's fiat) :-)
136.
Post 3665464 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
I'm not sure if there is a delay, but blockchained.com is showing explosive amounts of USD sitting on Gox.
$32M ATH (maybe rpietila's fiat) :-)
where can you see that?
137.
Post 3666325 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
This explains some odd behavior but it's not a big deal.
This is a monstrous fuckup of enormous proportions, if this is true then their "trading engine" is broken beyond repair (it wouldn't even deserve the name "trading engine" anymore) and should be taken down and replaced by something else immediately!
From Bitstamp: How does instant order work?
When you place an instant order, we add an order at the current bid or ask price (depending on the type of the order). If there is not enough bitcoins available at that price, your order will remain open until someone sells or buys additional bitcoins at that price. Our trading engine will then reposition your order every 10 minutes to the current order book offer.
138.
Post 3667094 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
I can't believe I sold all just under 500! I was so happy to have over a half million $ that I couldn't wait. Oh well, I guess all I can do is sit in my new completely paid off house and cry. lol
You sold all? Really?
IMO at current BTC valutation selling "for good" (to cash in fiat profits) more than 35% of ones BTC stash is completely crazy, regardless of when you bought in.
If you bought in low double digits/single digits, then your profits are SO HUGE that selling only 20% will grant you a massive gain, while you still keep bullets for the "next round".
If you bought just a few weeks/months ago, then selling 20% is probably enough to recover your full investment, while you keep riding the BTC trading.
In any case, selling all seems like something you will bitterly regret in the near future. I guess you dig in the forums and read the stories of those who sold tens of k's of coins in 2011 (if not hundreds of thousands of coins), bought a nice house and a nice car and retired from the BTC scene for good. Just 2 years after those guys would be so wealthy that their kids and the kids of their kids would be all set for life.
Yep - it might not happen. But its the kind of opportunity you just cannot afford to lose
I already kind of regret it but I mined for most of my coin so long ago and this is such a giant windfall that it's hard to not be happy.
I do not believe it is possible in 4 days withdraw from gox $500k and buy house. Total BS
139.
Post 3667304 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):
You're all right to hold on to some for the future, and I kept a couple just in case, but it does feel really good to have made money and cashed out. For many of the dream chasers here cashing out is a bedtime fantasy. I don't want to dream about it anymore. At what point do you cash out? At retirement or when you have a big purchase and need the money? Never? I hope the price goes to a million a coin and we are all rich off a few coins but I most likely won't live long enough to see that happen.
I haven't spent a coin since Jeremy was selling Amazon cards to Americans. So I've been saving for a long time. Time to spend!
How many coins did you cash out in total?
Just over 1800.
Edit: that's all I've ever had which includes spending at SpendBitcoins.
How are you planning to withdraw it from Gox though? Gonna take the 5% extortion fee?
That can't be helped. I may as well tell you, it's almost over now. I have several family members receiving from accounts I helped them make. They will receive the funds and transfer to me slowly. The extortion fee isn't as bad as the tax will be.
There is limit $10k USD/ month at gox. -> $500k is 50 man-months :-) (if any)
140.
Post 3690155 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Good. Let's shake out some weak hands.
Let's just crash the whole fucking thing and be done with it. SELLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Are your coins belonging to us now ?
141.
Post 3701632 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
I don't think $800 is cheap.
Then sell all your coins ... you "wealthy ELITE" (whining and luring kids to sell their Bitcoins)
142.
Post 3701684 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
luring kids to sell their Bitcoins
Think of it as education. He did say he likes to teach.
No he likes to manipulate.
143.
Post 3702509 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):
Perhaps about 700-800, then a larger relapse, but the high will be surpassed ever quicker.
20 months to surpass $32,
7 months to beat $266,
perhaps 2-3 months to go over the next record, and $1000, $2000 and beyond.
took more losses and bought some more back!
My last sale was at 375. My next sell is for 400.
thats the best way to do it, sell little bits slowly as its rising.
Sell all as soon as possible. It will recover for a time, but each bottom is deeper that the previous one.
$350 is cheap, it is the ATH from 15 days ago
$500 is a reasonable level to start buyback.
so you're buying back in now?
Now, meaning 'at the moment', I am not buying back in. The price is above $500.
My average sale price is $672 and I am not a daytrader. It has to go down a lot before I care to buy back.
Now, meaning 'whether I changed the strategy concerning what to do', the answer is: strategy stays the same until something new happens. Just that price follows some of my old scenarios (goes up, down, or stays put) is not considered 'new'. I don't think I will ever buy bitcoins above $500. If it goes to the moon, my next problem will be when and how much to sell more, as my bitcoins are worth $100M and the rest of my wealth is just a few million$.
I should really post my wisdom concerning position management, because so many are clueless about it.
choooo choooo MOFO
144.
Post 3717327 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
Can someone explain to me how such a low volume of trades (compared to april of last year) can raise the price this high?
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg360zigWeeklyztgWzbgEza1gEMAzm1g20za2gSMAzm2g15zxzvzcvzl
145.
Post 3726114 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
4 digit in 3, 2, 1 …
We can finally agree that 2013 is no 2011?
In other news, I hope Risto tell us when he will hit the stop loss button and buy back.
I'm not sure he is really selling, he is only taking profit and trying to manipulate others to re buy at lover price.
146.
Post 3733947 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):
STAMP:
9k coins to $1k
5k coins from $1k to $8k
All the newborn millionaires want to cash out at $1k
They do not realize that we will go up to 5 digits like a hot knife through butter once that the $1k resistance is broken.
lol $300k/btc before end of year. :-)
147.
Post 3753415 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
Goat said LTC @$100 soon.
Goat is a troll!
How many LTC are mined per day ?
148.
Post 3771381 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):
Bulltrap?
Yes .. the FIRST one :-) ... there are only BEAR traps in bitcoin.
149.
Post 3778010 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
LOL! are you still short?
= FOOL!!!
rpietila SELL ALL YOUR COINS !!!
150.
Post 3779751 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
agreed with niothor.
This is just a reminder to those who might have forgotten or those who are new to bitcoin.
Rpietila is shouting doom and gloom all over the forum, but until the beginning of the year he was predicting a bitcoin valuation of several hundred thousand USD. That was whilst he was in a manic phase, during which his behavior on these forums, as well as in real life caused much sensation and is well documented for those interested in using the search function.
He was subsequently involuntarily hospitalized in a psychiatric facility, diagnosed with Bipolar Affective Disorder, with multiple delusions of grandeur. He now seems to be in a depressive phase of his illness and is spreading doom and gloom on the speculation forums. Either that, or he has sold just before we hit 1000 and is now regretting his mistake.
Either way, thread carefully with him
That's the cheapest form of attack. You try to discredit the person instead of attacking his actual arguments. Ad Hominem is a very low debate tactic. Maybe he has a mental illness. Many people have. It doesn't mean they can't make significant intellectual contributions.
I tried to attack his arguments, but he deleted my post (and not only my) from his moderated thread.
151.
Post 3790394 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):
When if the crash comes, I think not many in the forum is buying. After going to $2k and crashing to $1k, would you really buy? Everybody is shitless by then. It is completely at the mercy of the new money then.
@rpietila, I'll sell you @$2k and then will buying back @$1k :-).
152.
Post 3854354 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):
MtGox Lag 40 min ... :-) Trade !
153.
Post 3869965 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
Saving is good, hoarding like a lunatic is not.
The beauty of Bitcoin is that people like you can't forcefully impose your subjective preferences on anyone other than yourself.
+1
Fine libertarian spirit.
+1
Did you know our universe is one big bubble inflating from nothing to infinity at the speed of light ? :-)
154.
Post 3869997 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
Did you know our universe is one big bubble inflating from nothing to infinity at the speed of light ? :-)
You just provided me with a new way to reply to people saying Bitcoin is a bubble. Thank you
Is The Universe sustainable ? :-)
155.
Post 3870398 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
Did you know our universe is one big bubble inflating from nothing to infinity at the speed of light ? :-)
You just provided me with a new way to reply to people saying Bitcoin is a bubble. Thank you
Is The Universe sustainable ? :-)
The Universe is a Ponzi scheme with no intrinsic value. It is not backed by anything.
:-) It does not even have 2^256 atoms.
156.
Post 3878900 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
I think we're now we're now working on the "arm of death" as the final bulltrap before capitulation.
Yes bulls will trapped for 2 days ? (2 weeks or 2 months) ... What do you think about bear trapped forever ?
157.
Post 3891409 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):
In this case you are losing coins, but your wealth is better protected. It's like paying "crash insurance". And if you do this always, someday you will win big when big crash comes. This isn't as easy to do as it seems in the pic.
The most important thing in low risk trading is buying back in with loss and this could be majority of your trades. Winning trades are just so much bigger that this doesn't just lower your risk of losing wealth but it also is better for your coin stash in the long run. (maybe)
Interesting approach. Is there any way that you could make a mathematical model about it, so that we could compare vs. the SSS plan?
Did not hear or seen more stupid strategy than that from gandhibt.
Edit:
There is one ... send bitcoin to pirate40
158.
Post 3892678 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
In this case you are losing coins, but your wealth is better protected. It's like paying "crash insurance". And if you do this always, someday you will win big when big crash comes. This isn't as easy to do as it seems in the pic.
And that is where the manipulators make their money.
True. But his approach is still the most profitable one depending on how high you place the chance for total/near total failure of BTC. Don't tell me you're
100% sure BTC will make it?!
Bitcoin may failure, but an exchange can total failure with much higher probability. (it happened countless times)
159.
Post 3897535 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
Good night bears...
+1
I like this picture :-)
160.
Post 3907099 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
To be honest, your not the only one who thinks we aren't finished with this crash/pop/correction/downtrend at the moment. I see lot's of evidence for and against and you've made some really interesting posts for it, but you really rob yourself of credibility when you say thing's like '10$' as the bottom price. I don't know if you actually believe it yourself or just want to appear trollish.
I'm kidding about $10. I thought it's obvious.
It will actually be $0.01
lol
trend line is broken on high volume. Going down.
161.
Post 3908301 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):
how come that i was selling coins on mtgox for 964.50 and price went to 964.65 without getting my coins sold?
Maybe there was a lag and price falls before your order was put in the order book.
162.
Post 3922476 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
If anything... than panic buy
No. Sell and punish the above 1000 buyers and all the holders.
Buy back later. The chance is better then 50% to get more coins. Looks really bearish. Double Top wasn't reached again -> dead cat bounce.
We will go down, but I don't know how much. Just buy all the way down.
Sell to strong hands, they already own 75% of coins :-)
http://www.businessinsider.com/927-people-own-half-of-the-bitcoins-2013-12
163.
Post 3995602 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):
GOX is lagging
Lag: 8:09.298 looks like goxloop is starting
164.
Post 3997913 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):
To da moon (again)?
I don't see listening from Risto sometimes soon. He wrote he expected a $500 before posting again...
He is buying with both hands now.
165.
Post 4035071 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
It is wire.wire within China is cheap and instant
This is starting to get posted everywhere:
The front page of huobi.com says "银行汇款充值24小时到账，支持招商、建设银行。"
Apparently it translates to: "You can use the remittance to deposit fiat into our platform. The fund will be available in 24 hours. We support China Merchants Bank and China Construction Bank".
I know huobi is a Chinese exchange. I know they're saying they are now accepting fiat via "remittance". What is remittance though? And they say they support two different banks. Is remittance like a cashier's check form one of these banks? Is it a bank wire?
It looks like this exchange has found a way around the new regulations.
So do you believe this could be an answer for the Chinese problem? Why were the exchanges and depositors having to use 3rd party payment processors, if they could just use the banks directly like this anyway?
anonymity I believe. Direct bank transfers are of course documented, whereas it sounds like the 3rd party payment system less scrutinized?
hmm, maybe china is cool with btc, but just wants to know who is dealing with them in volume. this seems to me like something china would do.
i bet there is a
massive over reaction then on this selling.
It is only weak hands shaking. :-)
166.
Post 4035394 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
Hello from China.
ist time to buy all the coins?
the sooner the better
167.
Post 4062022 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
While its tempting to trade, i always remind myself that i ll just get owned by bots if i'll attempt to open/close position within 1-5 minutes.
For some reason for a bad traders like myself
bottom looks extremely tempting to sell
Never go ALL IN/OUT in a single trade. If you are tempting take 2-5% of your stash and make bet. :-) ... you will see. Only gambler goes ALL IN/OUT and sooner or later will lose all in a single bet.
168.
Post 4062367 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
While its tempting to trade, i always remind myself that i ll just get owned by bots if i'll attempt to open/close position within 1-5 minutes.
For some reason for a bad traders like myself
bottom looks extremely tempting to sell
Never go ALL IN/OUT in a single trade. If you are tempting take 2-5% of your stash and make bet. :-) ... you will see. Only gambler goes ALL IN/OUT and sooner or later will lose all in a single bet.
in bitcoin you can
always buy back with a loss
Usually you can but I'm not sure if always.
169.
Post 4062467 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
Never go ALL IN/OUT in a single trade. If you are tempting take 2-5% of your stash and make bet. :-) ... you will see. Only gambler goes ALL IN/OUT and sooner or later will lose all in a single bet.
It is always gambling, no matter if full Fiat, full BTC or you split.
Trading is a little more complicated than only gambling. (You can win if you are good enough)
170.
Post 4062724 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
Never go ALL IN/OUT in a single trade. If you are tempting take 2-5% of your stash and make bet. :-) ... you will see. Only gambler goes ALL IN/OUT and sooner or later will lose all in a single bet.
It is always gambling, no matter if full Fiat, full BTC or you split.
Trading is a little more complicated than only gambling. (You can win if you are good enough)
I think if it more like poker rather then a generic casino table game.
Indeed. Good players will out-perform noobs 9 out of 10 times.
Same goes for traders.
There are noobs, traders, whales and bigger whales in bitcoin. :-)
171.
Post 4092901 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):
If you think it goes below 300, I am willing to bet
I have no idea where the price is going but I fondly remember the time when you predicted the price would never go below $100 again. That was about 24 hours before the price dived below $100 on heavy volume.
Predicting the markets is making educated guesses about the probabilities of things happening. It becomes successful investing if you spot the +EV deals and act on them (and your skill is good enough to estimate the probabilities).
When I predicted no going below 100, my skill was not as good as now. I would have bet, and lost. (And I also lost by going 100% all-in before the dip). Now I am saying no going below 300. If it goes below, I lose the possible bet + I lose because my bids were too high. It does not mean that I find it unthinkable to go there. If I bet 2:1 for example, it means that I think the probability is anything less than 33%.
This was also the beef last spring, and many people have been ridiculing me for trying to (unsuccessfully) give them juicy odds for bets that I would have lost. Now I think it is bad behavior - just "no thanks" should be enough.In the last dip I went 100%
all in at $421, because that was my assessment of the lowest realistic price in Bitstamp that day after the previous close of 675. I lost, because it went to $382. Well, many lost much more by being even worse in predicting
Your 20 BTC ?
172.
Post 4095440 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):
Does not look too rosy for bulls now... My final speculation before Christmas is that we will see quite low prices (already) before New Year's.
Merry Christmas/Xmas/Holidays everyon!
My speculation is $5k in 2014 .. so Merry Christmas for every one who is holding, and for those who are selling me cheap coins. :-)
173.
Post 4154498 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):
to all bears that are feeling bad, i am about -45 btc from my best position during this "crash", took too much risk and bitcoin kicked me in the face, maybe this helps to fight with the "buying back with loss" feelings
all i can say is that when price rises it opens new possibilities, but only if you buy back before the rise
I think if you buy and hold + take 45 BTC fiat profit it would be much better for you.
174.
Post 4162009 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):
175.
Post 4188221 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):
Would be great if someone find out what Loaded is planing to do...
He was/is buying btc in China for a while now... so is he going to sell them this weekend? Or he just has some info from manipulators in China?
What will Loaded do with bunch of CNY locked in communist exchange ?
176.
Post 4190658 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):
btw. i sold major portion, im now 80/20 (usd/btc)
Some of yours coins are belonging to me now. :-)
177.
Post 4193220 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):
what would cause that stamp and gox are somewhat closer together %-wise vs what they were before this down move?
I don't know but currently selling in stamp, because it gives better relative value...
Good luck finding fool who will cash out at $350. Wait maybe he is comming. :-)
178.
Post 4193530 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):
what would cause that stamp and gox are somewhat closer together %-wise vs what they were before this down move?
I don't know but currently selling in stamp, because it gives better relative value...
Good luck finding fool who will cash out at $350. Wait maybe he is comming. :-)
The ones who are going to cash out will do obcviously from 500 all the way to current level. The rest selling pressure comes from the paniquers who are afraid of BTC falling all the way to 50 USD/BTC - they will be the ones who opress the price to 300 dollarish-levels.
You're sounding more like Nostradamus with every post
Well, you know the feeling when you have been buying coins instead of selling at 500-700 dollars and then the price starts dropping to 450, then quickly to 400, then 350 and then 320 quickly. You know, in this position the coin holders feel like there is a bottomless pit the coin will be sinking and it is better of selling them now for 320 while someone is still willing to pay this amount from my coinz.
Seems you forgot we had double top at $1240 ... this sellers want rebuy too.
179.
Post 4193615 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):
what would cause that stamp and gox are somewhat closer together %-wise vs what they were before this down move?
I don't know but currently selling in stamp, because it gives better relative value...
Good luck finding fool who will cash out at $350. Wait maybe he is comming. :-)
The ones who are going to cash out will do obcviously from 500 all the way to current level. The rest selling pressure comes from the paniquers who are afraid of BTC falling all the way to 50 USD/BTC - they will be the ones who opress the price to 300 dollarish-levels.
You're sounding more like Nostradamus with every post
Well, you know the feeling when you have been buying coins instead of selling at 500-700 dollars and then the price starts dropping to 450, then quickly to 400, then 350 and then 320 quickly. You know, in this position the coin holders feel like there is a bottomless pit the coin will be sinking and it is better of selling them now for 320 while someone is still willing to pay this amount from my coinz.
Seems you forgot we had double top at $1240 ... this sellers want rebuy too.
Don't you think they have bought already?
Don't you think they sold already ?
180.
Post 4195190 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):
This strikes me as an odd discussion....if I want to buy a share of a stock, I don't go to the pit on wall street and start waving my arms, I just log onto TrowePrice or Vanguard or whatever and set an order, they buy it and I'm good to go.
As far as I can tell, Coinbase does the same thing- yes, it would be nice to set limit orders etc., and I'm sure that will come, but basically it's a financial service that takes care of all the details.
DieJohnny, why didn't you send him to Coinbase to buy a few coins? Yes, Coinbase could be hacked, etc. but so could a Vanguard account - it's all about the reliability of the company, and the methods they use to safeguard my investment.
Yes, I get the whole "setting up a digital wallet safe from any intrusion" aspect....but most folks like myself are going to buy and sell and move bitcoins like we move stocks and bonds, through a service that handles the technical mumbo-jumbo.
Is there something I'm not understanding here?
Yep that's a better way to put it. Bitcoin isn't some weird internet money, it's just like an stock which will go boom boom boom to the moon and now suddenly everybody wants a piece of it
But, wait a moment, it will be cheaper soon
Now I'm off to bed before all the bulls come to throw stones at me...
hmm, we are not buying/selling at a loss. Simply: I do not understand your trading strategy.
181.
Post 4225585 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
I can see why some people are still so bullish now. They see action but don't know what huobi is and they think all this is happening naturally.
Interesting analysis. I can see why some people are so bearish now. They can look into the future and disregard new investors in bitcoin as a potential factor in price. They think houbi is the one to rule us all.
I'm actually bearish for two reasons. First is huobi and second is even WITH huobi, this still looks like that weak trend in May that fell into final capitulation. So combine those two and I am extra bearish.
What is huobi ? Some FAKE exchange with 200 btc in order book, and you can sell 100k bitcoin there and price will not even change. Seems legit.
oh houbi ... oh houbi ... oh houbi ... every post
182.
Post 4226995 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
I recently learned I am one-degree of separation from a great whale manipulator. Manipulation is happening. I also learned that the exchanges realize this and are cracking down on it behind the scenes (they obviously don't want to come out and discuss this openly). And besides, as the market grows, manipulation is becoming more difficult anyways.
But it's important to note that the great whales do not want bitcoin to crash to the point where it truly damages confidence. They know they cannot quickly cash out 100,000 BTC and nor do they want to because they believe that bitcoin is the future of money.
In fact, the more I think about "manipulation" and "whales" the less I see it as manipulation in the first place. What's wrong with putting up a 1,000 BTC sell wall to try to drop the price? By doing this you are risking a larger whale eating your wall in a single bite--live by the sword and die by the sword it seems.
In conclusion, the great whales--more often than not--are allies of bitcoin.
I agree. I'm not sure why "manipulation" is seen as illegitimate. Maybe I should read up on history. Can someone point me to something in history that meant trouble and triggered all the regulation we have in the "regulated" markets?
In my current naive mind, I can see a "manipulation problem" only when "unfair advantages" are being played, like in the case of naked short-selling, for example.
biggest manipulation = regulation :-)
183.
Post 4294363 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):
A lot of 502 Bad Gateway when trying to read bitcointalk. Is it only me ?
184.
Post 4360055 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):
I think the massive dump triggered a shutoff switch....
Yeah, but it wasn't even massive, just medium, yet if they have a shutoff for that it is complete garbage. It almost is like a gut fear reaction, Gox doesn't want the price dropping so they just turn off their exchange, haha.
The dump was cut off wasn't it? I assumed it was lower than 990.
It was at 990 and seemingly still going and click the exchange turns off.
and order book reset before dump.
185.
Post 4394885 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):
3 hours left for Gox to hit 750<. If some divine intervention will prevent it, i will be expecting my 1 btc from CoinBull.
Let's make a bet on whether or not CoinBull pays out.
I'm going with "no."
I'll make that bet too
i will bet you all yes with high amounts of BTC, then pay him to pay out the other bet:)
But this will not guarantee you that you will not be scammed and he will pay out the bets.
186.
Post 4512453 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):
Etoro is out of Beta and orders are executed 4 times a day now instead of once in beta.
They only trade paper bitcoins, correct?
Yes, it is CFD. It is only betting on price. No real bitcoin is bought/sold.
187.
Post 5023636 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):
Choo Choo :-)
188.
Post 5027276 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):
Choo chooooo
Back to the future.
http://i.imgur.com/XiuZr8u.jpg
189.
Post 5187676 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):
8:07 AM
Monday, February 17, 2014 (JST)
Time in Tokyo, Japan
190.
Post 5187731 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):
8:07 AM
Monday, February 17, 2014 (JST)
Time in Tokyo, Japan
Situation: Mtgox staff still in bed dreaming about what to write in the press release.
I go to sleep ...
191.
Post 5261559 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
My Bitstamp account says:
Bitcoin Withdrawal
You are not allowed to withdraw bitcoins at the moment.
192.
Post 5261863 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Verify Account
Customer ID:xxxxx
Status:Verified
Two-factor authentication
Enabled
Two-factor authentication is enabled.
Bitcoin Withdrawal
You are not allowed to withdraw bitcoins at the moment.
193.
Post 5261931 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Verify Account
Customer ID:xxxxx
Status:Verified
Two-factor authentication
Enabled
Two-factor authentication is enabled.
Bitcoin Withdrawal
You are not allowed to withdraw bitcoins at the moment.
Is it country specific?, Are people 'not allowed' in the US?
I'm not from US
194.
Post 5262101 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):
Verify Account
Customer ID:xxxxx
Status:Verified
Two-factor authentication
Enabled
Two-factor authentication is enabled.
Bitcoin Withdrawal
You are not allowed to withdraw bitcoins at the moment.
Could there have been some major hack attempt involving a bunch of accounts that they have now temporarily frozen?
I have been getting emails last couple of days for the first time from '
support@btcguild.com', with subjects like 'You Lost 3.201 bitcoin', and there is a link to download something (which is obviously malware) in the email.
These emails only started a couple of days ago, and it is the email address I use for my Bitstamp account. I am not registered on BTC Guild.
I got this email "3.201 bitcoin failed transfer"
I do not mine bitcoins.
195.
Post 6344656 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):
Seeing these pictures of the ridiculously big KNC mining warehouse made me realize the amount of coins that must be insta-dumped everyday:
http://imgur.com/a/CcIhXSadly, centralization of mining means that less and less miners are long-term believers and holders, as these data-centers consider the electricity bills as more than a trivial expense.
... and some say Bitcoin is a deflatory currency
These low prices are helping the big mining warehouses getting rid of the remaining competition. Soon there will be nothing but data centers mining coins... a bit sad really. But bitcoin is going pro. and that is also a positive thing in many respects.
Bring it on knc. I got like 20 ghash and I could run it until my parents come home.
looks like you can mine 0,00136101 BTC / DAY what is 0.5 per year if difficulty will not raise (how much electricity will it cost your parents ?)
196.
Post 6344788 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):
Seeing these pictures of the ridiculously big KNC mining warehouse made me realize the amount of coins that must be insta-dumped everyday:
http://imgur.com/a/CcIhXSadly, centralization of mining means that less and less miners are long-term believers and holders, as these data-centers consider the electricity bills as more than a trivial expense.
... and some say Bitcoin is a deflatory currency
These low prices are helping the big mining warehouses getting rid of the remaining competition. Soon there will be nothing but data centers mining coins... a bit sad really. But bitcoin is going pro. and that is also a positive thing in many respects.
Bring it on knc. I got like 20 ghash and I could run it until my parents come home.
looks like you can mine 0,00136101 BTC / DAY what is 0.5 per year if difficulty will not raise (how much electricity will it cost your parents ?)
The funny thing is that I considered mining but yea the difficulty is a pain. If it stayed the same then maybe it would be worth it. Now, if your small you need to reinvest otherwise you won't get anywhere
If I'll estimate 1 kW/h (10 cent/hour) then 1 day of mining will cost you $2.4/day .. $72/month ... $864/year (and you will have only 0.5 - 0.1 BTC)
197.
Post 6498034 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
135000 new bitcoin every month x current exchange rate $ 450 = $ 60750000 every month
someone needs to pay it with real money. But who ?
There are 4,000 new accounts every day only at My Wallet
https://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-users?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=4,000 * 30 = 120,000 new adopters monthly ... not enough bitcoins for everyone.
198.
Post 6498211 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
Im confused, where does the 30 figure come from? Thats not supposed to be the average investment is it? Because it should be about a tenth of that.
Plus most of those accounts are probably not "unique"
30 days per month
199.
Post 6498414 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
Are we seeing now the lowest point in bitcoin price for the next 6 months ?
FTFY
200.
Post 6499873 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
This is skewed greatly by the fact that their developer API allows you to create a fresh MyWallet for each customer that comes to your site/service. So this may just mean a lot of people are just signing up to a new service that is backed by Blockchain.info's MyWallet service but no necessarily a new adopter, let alone adding additional value to the market.
Yeah, but it is still just one service, and even if only 1/4 are new adopters, that is 30,000 new adopters a month. To my knowledge, I had NOT registered any wallet on blockchain info until 4 months after I had been buying bitcoin(s). There are likely a lot of ways to get into bitcoin without creating a wallet with blockchain.info... so maybe overall, the number of 120,000 per month is an accurate roundabout and overall estimate for the number of new users per month?
I believe that all the estimates remain that bitcoin adoption is increasing, in spite several downfalls and impediments.. but no one really knows the exact numbers, even though there remain several estimations...
It is interesting that even if 30,000 NEW adopters a DAY will emerge then it is only 11,000,000 per YEAR ... ( and only 110 millions per 10 YEARS ... what is less than 2% of population )
201.
Post 6515126 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
What happens when the US 'bans' bitcoin?
what happens when US launch nukes at itself
202.
Post 6531438 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
How it looks on log scale:
Same line on linear scale:
Same line on larger time scale:
:-) just interesting
203.
Post 6531548 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
I know, .... worst case scenario $350/BTC at the end of year ? (and $2,000 in 2016 :-) )
204.
Post 6531600 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
It all depends on how much time it takes to decline. Theoretically it could either drop immediately to $120 or go sideways for a year at $400.
I'll prefer drop to single digits :-) .. and then I'll buy thousands.
205.
Post 6537643 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
Let's say that one day EC is suddenly revealed to be broken. Hackers have already been moving coins around and now everyone's private keys are suddenly public knowledge. Everyone's coins now belong to everyone else and there is no way to distinguish between owners. How could you possibly fix this with a patch? You'd have to release a new blockchain with the same balances and everyone having a new private key. Even if you could pull that off, how would you know who the owners were and how to contact them with their new private keys?
Bitcoin is not EC. Bitcoin is EC + SHA-256 + RIPEMD-160. So if one day EC is suddenly revealed still only owner of private key will be able to make transaction. Everyone's coins now still belong to owner and owner is able to move them to NEW address witch will be secured with NEW crypto alg. (EC replacement)
206.
Post 8255629 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
25,258.21172894 BTC is at "Exodus address".
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... seems like, people love to throw out money. :-)
207.
Post 8255856 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Wow, that's a lot of BTC people put in. Never understood why I should buy Ether, myself. Any thoughts on whether this 25k+ BTC might have a negative impact on BTC/USD?
I think only negative impact on ETH stockholders.
208.
Post 8256065 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Wow, that's a lot of BTC people put in. Never understood why I should buy Ether, myself. Any thoughts on whether this 25k+ BTC might have a negative impact on BTC/USD?
I think only negative impact on ETH stockholders.
But in the blog, they're talking about literally dumping some of the BTC on the market for expenses payable in fiat currency. How much is not clear. I suppose those with debt payable in BTC were likely to have held in the first place, though.
It is very good for Bitcoin. Cheap coins will change hands.
209.
Post 8256240 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Wow, that's a lot of BTC people put in. Never understood why I should buy Ether, myself. Any thoughts on whether this 25k+ BTC might have a negative impact on BTC/USD?
I think only negative impact on ETH stockholders.
But in the blog, they're talking about literally dumping some of the BTC on the market for expenses payable in fiat currency. How much is not clear. I suppose those with debt payable in BTC were likely to have held in the first place, though.
It is very good for Bitcoin. Cheap coins will change hands.
Ah, sure, I didn't mean "bad for bitcoin"... by negative impact on BTC/USD, I just meant a downward pressure on the price. The whole thing is a bit opaque, though. Not clear to me how much it could affect that.
There are almost 4k BTC minted daily. ... ( so wait one more week)
210.
Post 8256345 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Ethereum might become the biggest BTC rubbish dump next to MtGox. This will be fun to watch.
25k BTC = $15M
So investors think that their stock will outperform Bitcoin and that stock also has similar crash possibility. Acctually this investment is at least 5 - 10 times more risky than Bitcoin with same rewards.
Neo & Bee anyone?
after 5k sell out, only $12M remains
211.
Post 8256431 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
vultures are attracted ($15M is the nice price)
212.
Post 8256581 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
sentiment of bitcoiners seems quite negative against ethereum.
people fear what they don't understand, I guess. Or maybe it's envy these guys are being swamped with coins.
btw: not saying ETH is a good investment, I have strong doubts. Ethereum being successful does not necessaril imply ETH will be valuable.
also: I'm not endorsing ethereum, I just think it's highly interesting, mainly from a technical perspective and for the implications it might have (which I can't yet fully imagine). Unsure who's really behind it, either, and what the larger plan is there...
One thing I can say for sure, though: comparing ethereum to any old altcoin pump & dump is just fucking lame. If you do that you're either too lazy to take a look at what it is and therefore ignorant, or you are hostile against it for some reason and spreading fud.
I'm only impressed by the fact they was able to earn 25k btc
213.
Post 8340248 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Don't worry, the next big rally is around the corner. It's just waiting for me to sell my coins.
What is your trigger for selling your coins?
$3k ?
214.
Post 8340320 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Don't worry, the next big rally is around the corner. It's just waiting for me to sell my coins.
What is your trigger for selling your coins?
$3k ?
Please tell me you meant ¥3k (meh... I'll spot you ¥4k or ¥5k... but let's not get carried away, here).
I have changed my mind ... sooo I'll sell @$5k+ :-), (and will buy more, if price go down)
215.
Post 8442514 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):
i wish someone could explain to me this in english, I understand that a short is betting that it will go down, long the opposite, but how does it work in detail? can someone give me an example? like they were explaining it to a 5 year old? lol.
Why does it matter that there are 7300 shorts? because thats a shit ton?
Short: Somebody borrows bitcoins and sells them. Later he will buy bitcoins at lower price and returns them to the lender + interest.
Long: Borrow $$ then buy BTC and sell them later.
216.
Post 8444179 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):
14th August shorts were 2,766 now they are 7,050 thats an increase of 154.88%
Yup. I think we know this isn't the real deal this time. BUT, those shorting might get squeezed anyways on the volatility... and, if they get squeezed hard enough, what shouldn't have been the rally becomes the rally. So... the plot thickens. Dangerous market right now.
TL;DR -
Either the shorts know something that we don't know, or they are absolutely stupid as fuck.
exactly what I think, or it is some sort of manipulation
217.
Post 8678490 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):
Balls of steal. Those who are short right now
I would call them Donors ... and the more donors the better.
218.
Post 8693384 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):
all of your memes are incredible .. KEEP POSTING
219.
Post 8778963 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
I'm quite amazed where these huge sellers get their coins from.
Remember those 850.000 bitcoins "lost" on the MtGox? Somebody has the private keys of those BTC. Ask yourself what would you do if that was you. Would you hold all of them, or would you convert some to the fiat?
my guess is that if one was smart enough to steal this amount of coins he/she is also smart enough to sell them off exchange.
if it was me, selling them via a verified exchange account would be the last thing i would do.
And I don't even mv the btc,
I'll just give away the private key.Yes, and ideally to as many persons as possible :-).
220.
Post 8796124 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
am I seeing correctly a 3,500 BTC ask wall on bitfinex?
It is hovering there all day long.
221.
Post 8822247 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
DOGE = 100% bear trap, i have my buy orders lined up around 45-55, will resell @120.
Will also rebuy in the 60´s if it shouldn´t go that low in the next hours/days.
Lol, we don't have anything to talk about Bitcoin, so we started talking about Doge and other altcoins.
Wow, is Bitcoin still around? Last time i checked it was pretty dead.
Edit: Please stop calling DOGE an altcoin, thanks.
Bitcoin is an altcoin.
Bitcoin is ancient, slow, overvalued and has no advantages. It's for old suckers like pensioners who can't handle modern and solid tech.
222.
Post 9005314 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):
I don't sell anything but I don't like this down movement.
you and 1million other hodler feel the same way
Hodlers hodl 13.5M and only 7,5 M remains.
223.
Post 9058061 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):
And, ... there is absolutely no urgency to get back in. I may get in fast if I see a clear sell off and subsequent reversal or, I can take time and get back him when it is showing signs of an uptrend. But the worst thing in investing is to catch the falling knife. After protencting gains above 1000 $, it is not a big deal to buy back in at 400, 500, or 600. It is still outperforming buy and hold big time.
So you're saying you got out above $1000 and never got back in between then and now? You make it sound so easy to simply get out at the top and then just wait 10-12 months or however long it takes for a new uptrend to take hold and then just buy back in and ride the next bull run. I think you've made mistakes as well by getting in or out at the wrong time just like all traders do, but you just leave that out to make it seem like it's easy. I dare you to let us know when you bought back in so we all can see how good you really are.
He also got in @ $0.06 and make twice as much as buy and hold strategy.
224.
Post 9095731 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):
I think everybody is just sitting and waiting till he removes his wall so we can bounce
Not everybody, Bitstamp is "Waiting for you to send the funds...", they are on the way.
225.
Post 9109555 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Same on finex and okcoin. Huobi saw slightly higher in April.
You did not buy under $300 ? ... I'm sorry to announce to you "you will not in the future.", probably.
226.
Post 9128862 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
...
Nonsense. Long before Bitcoin was a thing, I dreamed of money with wildly fluctuating buying power.
I imagined a world where it took an hour to buy a cup of coffee, an hour to gas up your car, an hour to buy a bag of groceries... Because math.
Zero confirmations duh.
...
Err. I'm solow, explain to me how that works.
Can you imagine
1. There will be bitcoin bank.
2. I'll fund my account with bitcoins in this bank.
3. This bank will pay to merchant 1 per day for all his customers.
227.
Post 9129084 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Sure can. We had several, NeoBee being the fanciest
1. Does anybody force you to keep your life savings @ NeoBee ? (keep only pocket change in this services).
2. There are dozens services what works this way.
3. How many people get robbed by pickpockets
228.
Post 9129276 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):
Sure can. We had several, NeoBee being the fanciest
1. Does anybody force you to keep your life savings @ NeoBee ? (keep only pocket change in this services).
2. There are dozens services what works this way.
3. How many people get robbed by pickpockets
Lol, no one forced me to keep my savings in NeoBee. I didn't. No one forces you to keep your savings in fiat banks. Stuff a mattress
2. ?
3. No idea. Carry CCs. Someone steals those, you lose nothing
You missed this one ?
No no no ... Bad idea . They will also charge "some" fees.
Bitpay is awesome thou. They don't wait for confirmations so its fast and also secure for merchants.
229.
Post 9167296 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
@ 7k wall
we are running out of cheap coins. sold out
230.
Post 9167927 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
Mini bullwhale? Flashing a bidwall somewhere between 3-5k (its not 7 as some are saying)
There was such wall. But it lasted only a couple seconds.
Probably a glitch. The largest the wall could be according to the bidsum is about 3.7k. Its ~3k right now
6k3 wall now ... there was 7k wall 30 mins ago. ... somebody is trying to confuse bots.
231.
Post 9168169 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
232.
Post 9168310 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
Epic belly flop. But how much worse can it get at this poing
This cripple shit is here for decades (they started long ago before bitcoin).
233.
Post 9168426 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_%28payment_protocol%29Ripple was first implemented in 2004 by Ryan Fugger,[12][13] a Web developer in Vancouver, B.C., Canada.[14] In 2005, Fugger began to build Ripplepay as a financial service to provide secure payment options to members of an online community via a global network.[14][15]
This led to the development of a new Ripple system in 2011 by Jed McCaleb.[14] It was designed to eliminate Bitcoin's reliance on centralized exchanges, use less electricity than Bitcoin, and perform transactions much more quickly than Bitcoin.[14]
cRipple market cap is less than 3% compared to Bitcoin.
cRipple has so "BIG" market cap.(2%) because they
stole bitcoin idea and bankster
pumped it recently
234.
Post 9177666 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):
I need to sell a few thousand bitcoins to pay some bills. Sorry guys.
Sell some Ripple..
Can't as I expect XRP to reach parity with the dollar in 3-6 months.
Both at zero ?
235.
Post 9177749 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):
I need to sell a few thousand bitcoins to pay some bills. Sorry guys.
Sell some Ripple..
Can't as I expect XRP to reach parity with the dollar in 3-6 months.
Both at zero ?
No. That's crazy talk you fool.
I thought you sold tens of thousands under $100 (At least you were bragging). Are you owner of KNC bitcoin mining farm.
236.
Post 9178506 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):
I need to sell a few thousand bitcoins to pay some bills. Sorry guys.
Sell some Ripple..
Can't as I expect XRP to reach parity with the dollar in 3-6 months.
Walsoraj freak of the nature. He has head where ass have to be.
237.
Post 9204381 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):
yes, bitcoin uses "SSL 3.0 protocols"
238.
Post 9204434 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):
yes, bitcoin uses "SSL 3.0 protocols"
Should we panic at all?
Yes, bitcoin is full of IOU.
239.
Post 9249058 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):
I really do not understand why are you quoting every troll in this forum.
240.
Post 9282058 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):
People cannot access bitcoin wallets with only the passphrase right?
They need the wallet file first?
same way that one can't access an encrypted file without access of the encrypted file
241.
Post 9296789 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):
Sometimes when i´m really fucked up i think that shroomskit maybe is in fact one of the best trolls ever, and that he isn´t serious at all ? ? ? ? ?
BTW: I met your uncle.
242.
Post 9702539 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
243.
Post 9702545 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
244.
Post 9702576 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
245.
Post 9702600 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
246.
Post 9702659 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
@chop
247.
Post 9702675 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
^^
248.
Post 9702724 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
You are only stupid troll.
249.
Post 9702749 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
250.
Post 9702771 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):
someone is very keen on turning todays candle red
Since there is almost no volume, I can only assume that you mean "by not buying."
251.
Post 9742139 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
Out of topic but for our russian friend
252.
Post 9742187 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
Out of topic but for our russian friend
that and
253.
Post 9742225 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
254.
Post 9742240 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
255.
Post 9742459 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
ah but if you buy the 20K BTC available on the market today and then immediately send the price to infinity you've just made some very nice paper profits
do not quote/feed trolls.
256.
Post 9751064 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):
Why do people rack up thousands of posts on a forum for something they....
1.) Don't think will succeed
2.) Don't seem to really enjoy
I don't get it.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
257.
Post 9892946 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):
CCMF :-)
258.
Post 9913389 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):
259.
Post 10016536 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):
major black swan panic event?
we might as well start buying lotto tickets...
Majority of the people doing alts are getting rich quick people.
There will be a moment when the majority figures out that
99 100% of alts are a scam.
Then they have only one option, and that is good ol' bitcorn.
For many bitcoin is too expensive, they think.
FTFY
260.
Post 10016620 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):
major black swan panic event?
we might as well start buying lotto tickets...
Majority of the people doing alts are getting rich quick people.
There will be a moment when the majority figures out that
99 100% of alts are a scam.
Then they have only one option, and that is good ol' bitcorn.
For many bitcoin is too expensive, they think.
FTFY
yea... because getting transactions done in under
1 minute using a p2p network and not some off-chain bullshit must be a scam....
whatever guys keep dreaming
I would recommend you to use "transactions done in under 10 ms".
- wow
- such confidence
- such fast !
261.
Post 10097599 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.45h):
Stamp at 294, Huobi 280.
Good opportunity for arbitrage
and there are no fees
262.
Post 10107827 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):
That's disgusting.
do not forget to quote it
263.
Post 10107992 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):
Does anyone expect price to rise soon? I told my church that bitcoin was misunderstood by the media and that it's actually the best form of money ever created, because it's for the people and not controlled by greedy bankers. The pastor agreed that Christ himself would have approved and they invested a small fortune. But he's getting worried now, because the price keeps going down. What should we do?
Even bitchick has a sock puppet account... hahahahahahaha
despair
264.
Post 10181202 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):
I just created a meme for you guys.
. Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.
winkle brothers bought 200,000 btc @ $2 ... do you think they are bag holders ? (they do not need to sell more that 2,000 btc @ $200 to recover)
265.
Post 10181244 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):
I just created a meme for you guys.
. Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.
winkle brothers bought 200,000 btc @ $2 ... do you think they are bag holders ? (they do not need to sell more that 2,000 btc @ $200 to recover)
Those bosters are nothing to be proud of
Are you ?
266.
Post 10181343 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):
I just created a meme for you guys.
. Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.
winkle brothers bought 200,000 btc @ $2 ... do you think they are bag holders ? (they do not need to sell more that 2,000 btc @ $200 to recover)
that's because you bought their bags, once most of us start dumping, $2 won't be the bottom..
oh silly, dump as much as you can ... I cant wait.
267.
Post 10190772 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):
I can buy 30% less smack now than I could last week. Bloody ridiculous
I can buy too, and I will :-)
268.
Post 10371104 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):
The dump3er guy tells you: Sub 100 is coming. When? Soon...
Was the dump3er wrong before, when he said "This shit is crashing hard"?! No!
Was the the dump3er wrong when he said "Buy this bull trap now and sell it to inca on the top"? No!
If you are not listening to the dump3er you will be a dead astronaut!
Surrender, you maggots! Bow before the dump3er!
Bitcoin production costs is above $100. So forget sub $100 bitcoins.
269.
Post 10371293 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):
The dump3er guy tells you: Sub 100 is coming. When? Soon...
Was the dump3er wrong before, when he said "This shit is crashing hard"?! No!
Was the the dump3er wrong when he said "Buy this bull trap now and sell it to inca on the top"? No!
If you are not listening to the dump3er you will be a dead astronaut!
Surrender, you maggots! Bow before the dump3er!
Bitcoin production costs is above $100. So forget sub $100 bitcoins.Wrong.
for people with free hardware no overhead and "free" electricty its close to zero.
But that is no indicator of its value. It can become $1000 in less then 6 months to make 1 BTC if more hardware hits the network.
Network total: 366,027,750 Ghash/s ... it really is not free ... it is 200,000 kw/h ... and * 24 per day
270.
Post 10386278 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):
It's Huobi the anchor chain again. Must be the big Chinese mining pools still dumping coins. Don't they know the rest of the world is revving for the next bull run?
I think that you should explain it to them, that instead of selling bitcoins, they should sell their and their loved ones kidneys. That's how they could pay off some of the loans and electric bills, that have been accumulating throughout 2014.
Are these mining places even profitable any more ? I thought after the price fell, then even people getting free electricity aren't profitable.
A bit simplified, but say an underclocked SP20 at 1.2 TH/s uses 1000W. That would (at current difficulty) mine ~0.445 BTC or (at todays prices) $100 per month. If you consider the hardware as a sunk cost, you will be even with a electricity rate of 14 US cents (3.36 per day). At 10 cents you'd ROI your hardware after ten months. If you have free electricity you'd ROI would be 4 to 5 months.
Of course there are some other factors, but that is the basic picture.
30 days * $3.36 = $100 / 0.445 => 1 BTC costs you $226
It is better to buy BTC directly.
271.
Post 10441972 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):
.---._
.--(. ' .).--. . .-.
. ( ' _) .)` ( .)-. ( ) '-'
( , ). `(' . _)
(') _________ '-' CCMF
____[_________] ________
\__/ | _ \ || ,;,;,, [________]
_][__|(")/__|| ,;;;;;;;;, __________ __________ _| CCMF |_
/ | |____ | | | | ___ | | ____|
(| .--. .--.| | ___ | | | | | | ____| |____ |
/|/ .. \~~/ .. \_|_.-.__.-._|_|_.-:__:-._|_|_.-.__.-._|_|_.-.__.-._|
+=/_|\ '' /~~\ '' /=+( o )( o )+==( o )( o )=+=( o )( o )+==( o )( o )=+=
='=='='--'==+='--'===+'-'=='-'==+=='-'+='-'===+='-'=='-'==+=='-'=+'-'jgs+
272.
Post 10462308 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.58h):
April 2013 ATH (~$260) under attack.
273.
Post 10473631 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.59h):
The real victim of bitcoin is selling now.
274.
Post 10556961 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.
Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.
Mined coins are not that much, 3600 per day and the Chinese probably only have less than 35% share of that so thats only 1200 coins per days assuming they sell all of them every day.
There is more belief of short traders and options sellers using leverage.
3600 is not that much
that's like additional $850,000 sell pressure every single day. BTC is not that liquid to easily sustain that.
But some relief will come in 18months
Let assume that only 15% of population will use bitcoin in next 20 years.
=> it is 1,000,000,000 / 20 years
=> 50,000,000 new adopters per year
=> 136,000 new adopters every day
$850,000 / 136,000 new adopers = $6.25 per new person
275.
Post 10557076 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.
Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.
Mined coins are not that much, 3600 per day and the Chinese probably only have less than 35% share of that so thats only 1200 coins per days assuming they sell all of them every day.
There is more belief of short traders and options sellers using leverage.
3600 is not that much
that's like additional $850,000 sell pressure every single day. BTC is not that liquid to easily sustain that.
But some relief will come in 18months
Let assume that only 15% of population will use bitcoin in next 20 years.
=> it is 1,000,000,000 / 20 years
=> 50,000,000 new adopters per year
=> 136,000 new adopters every day
$850,000 / 136,000 new adopers = $6.25 per new person
lol
Check reality. Price is $230+ and rising. :-)
276.
Post 10557934 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.00h):
If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.
Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.
Mined coins are not that much, 3600 per day and the Chinese probably only have less than 35% share of that so thats only 1200 coins per days assuming they sell all of them every day.
There is more belief of short traders and options sellers using leverage.
3600 is not that much
that's like additional $850,000 sell pressure every single day. BTC is not that liquid to easily sustain that.
But some relief will come in 18months
Let assume that only 15% of population will use bitcoin in next 20 years.
=> it is 1,000,000,000 / 20 years
=> 50,000,000 new adopters per year
=> 136,000 new adopters every day
$850,000 / 136,000 new adopers = $6.25 per new person
lol
Check reality. Price is $230+ and rising. :-)
not yet 136k new users errday tho
How do you know ?
7,000,000,000 / 136,000 = 50,000
It is only 1 new $5 investor in group of 50,000 people.
277.
Post 10975541 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.09h):
An attacker that controls more than 50% of the network's computing power can, for the time that he is in control, exclude and modify the ordering of transactions. This allows him to:
Reverse transactions that
he sends while
he's in control Prevent some or all transactions from gaining any confirmations
Prevent some or all other generators from getting any generations
The attacker
can't: Reverse other people's transactions
Prevent transactions from being sent at all (they'll show as 0/unconfirmed)
Change the number of coins generated per block Create coins out of thin air Send coins that never belonged to him
278.
Post 10975607 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.09h):
...
Prevent some or all transactions from gaining any confirmations
...
...Making Bitcoin worthless for anyone not using the shiny new client
Shiny client without bitcoins(private keys) ... is not bitcoin client. -> It is some shit-coin
279.
Post 10975647 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.09h):
^What is it that you fail to grasp about "your BTC will be worthless unless you use the new client"? What good is a coin you can't spend?
lol,
- you have to spend $100,000,000 USD to prevent me make one transaction what is worth $1
- you have to spend a lot of money forever(every day) just to prevent me from make transactions
280.
Post 10975692 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.09h):
An attacker that controls more than 50% of the network's computing power can, for the time that he is in control, exclude and modify the ordering of transactions. This allows him to:
Reverse transactions that
he sends while
he's in control Prevent some or all transactions from gaining any confirmations
Prevent some or all other generators from getting any generations
The attacker
can't: Reverse other people's transactions
Prevent transactions from being sent at all (they'll show as 0/unconfirmed)
Change the number of coins generated per block Create coins out of thin air Send coins that never belonged to himSigh. Yes:
A man with a gun
can poke holes in other people.
He
cannot print dollar bills with it.
However, ... men with a gun and still no hole in you.
281.
Post 11079207 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.11h):
whats happening to btc
why it is crashing hardly, anyone have idea for this
i haven't seen any bad news why it is dropping -6%
Because greedy whales want more
And the market follows
how many coins do you have to own to be considered as a "whale" ?
1,000,000 BTC
edit:
or $1,000,000,000 USD
282.
Post 11157185 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.12h):
CCMF :-) $2,000 at the end of year (2015)
283.
Post 11846177 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.20h):
So LTC was sacrificed to rise BTC price.
I am tempted to buy LTC once they fall below pre-pump price...hm...
Coming to you soon. Litecoin has already lost half of it's value in less than twelve hours.
It($8.5) was the last spasm before the death of LTC
284.
Post 12188061 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.24h):
Nodes up by 16% in a couple of days? Looks like Gavin and Hearn fixed the node decline as well then.
I think that it is a manipulation and nodes are fake.
https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNodepseudonode --coin=bitcoin-xt
285.
Post 12233574 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.24h):
how do ya feel permabulls?
$2 per btc is my dream. :-). Never lived in this era. I'll buy with both hands.
286.
Post 12337952 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):
287.
Post 15335545 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.54h):
Last chance to buy @ $5xx
288.
Post 15527021 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
https://blockexplorer.com/blocksshows 2 block 420001 with same size different timestamp
289.
Post 15528274 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I have nowhere else to go, no one else i could turn to. Sheeple don't believe me when I start telling them about investing in disruptive blockchain technology. And when they realize I'm not joking, they laugh at me.
They're ignorant, brainwashed from birth in state schools and by the Jewish media, it's not their fault. But you. . . . you can think outside the box. . . . Expected better from you.
Do not trade. Buy and Hold. If you are gambler then it is your fault.
290.
Post 15541119 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Chinese bulls got me worried... The bid sum on Huobi has grown, and the triangle may break up... yikes!
Reduction in new bitcoins. -54,000 BTC/month (every month) :-)
291.
Post 15639856 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
If it's that limited then why is it being pushed?
This is not some sort of pure philosophical debate, people stand to gain or lose billions. Why is anything money-related being done? Probably money. Not that I'm above it, with that much at stake who knows what I'd do, but the answer is still money. Egos play into it, but that's about the same thing.
There are customers they pay for gods or services. There are merchants and they provide gods or services. => Customer only pay. Merchant only accept bitcoins.
You as customer will be able to open only 1 channel with LN-PROVIDER to send bitcoins to 1,000,000 merchants. Merchant will be ablle to open 1 channel with LN-PROVIDER to accept payments from ALL customers.
Can You understand now ?
292.
Post 15639948 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
If it's that limited then why is it being pushed?
This is not some sort of pure philosophical debate, people stand to gain or lose billions. Why is anything money-related being done? Probably money. Not that I'm above it, with that much at stake who knows what I'd do, but the answer is still money. Egos play into it, but that's about the same thing.
There are customers they pay for gods or services. There are merchants and they provide gods or services. => Customer only pay. Merchant only accept bitcoins.
You as customer will be able to open only 1 channel with LN-PROVIDER to send bitcoins to 1,000,000 merchants. Merchant will be ablle to open 1 channel with LN-PROVIDER to accept payments from ALL customers.
Can You understand now ?
First I hear of this, sounds like bullshit to me. Walk me through? Who is this "LN-PROVIDER"? How does "LN-PROVIDER" transact with "1,000,000 merchants"?
Why is it that "Merchant will be ablle to open 1 channel with LN-PROVIDER to accept payments from ALL customers."
LN-Provider can be BitPay/PayPal/Google. You will pay to LN-OPERATOR instantlly, LN-OPERATOR will notify merchant and later LN-OPERATOR will pay to merchanat sum of all payments at once.
293.
Post 15640072 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
LN-Provider can be BitPay/PayPal/Google.
I'm not asking who it could be, I'm asking who it will be. As in the one LN-PROVIDER with "1,000,000 merchants." Or will there be competing "LN-PROVIDER[ s ]"with "1,000,000 merchants"? All of them with pre-funded channels to Hamburger Bob?
You will pay to LN-OPERATOR instantlly,
You mean as in one macro-payment, from my paycheck, so all my BTC goes to PayPal? Or every time I want to make a micro-payment?
LN-OPERATOR will notify merchant and later LN-OPERATOR will pay to merchanat sum of all payments at once.
You've just explained how pre-funded credit cards work, what does this have to do with Bitcoin?
Are you Lambie ?
What if there is 1000 LN-OPERATORS. It is same as single 1. 999 others is same as other merchants to you AS CUSTOMER of your ONE LN-OPERATOR you choose.
Yes you have SINGLE pre-funded credit card and with this LN-CHANNEL you can pay to everybody who accepts paymetns from your operator. (or other co-operator)
294.
Post 15640156 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
LN-Provider can be BitPay/PayPal/Google.
I'm not asking who it could be, I'm asking who it will be. As in the one LN-PROVIDER with "1,000,000 merchants." Or will there be competing "LN-PROVIDER[ s ]"with "1,000,000 merchants"? All of them with pre-funded channels to Hamburger Bob?
You've just explained how pre-funded credit cards work, what does this have to do with Bitcoin?
I do not know who will be the first or who will be succesfull LN-Operator.
LN will enable -> customer to pay instantlly to some OPERATOR (payment in miliseconds)
And then OPERATOR will do everything for you just to make money and he will make payment to merchant (even in fiat if merchant wishes)
:-)
295.
Post 15640266 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
So the difference between $10,000 sitting in an open channel and $10,000,000 sitting in 1000 open channels. Just to serve Hamburger Bob, who don't do more than $2k worth of business a day.
allow me to quote:
Can You understand now ?
You know how many you spend for week or month. It is your bitcoin alocated. You can allocate as much as you wish. You will gain fast and cheap transactions. If you do not like then do not use.
LN-Provider will offer services: e.g. you can pay in this restaurants, buy in this shops ...
LN-Provider will offer: We cooperate with 1,000-1,000,000 other LN-Providers. It is not your problem, we will do it for you.
296.
Post 15640285 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
LN-Provider can be BitPay/PayPal/Google.
I'm not asking who it could be, I'm asking who it will be. As in the one LN-PROVIDER with "1,000,000 merchants." Or will there be competing "LN-PROVIDER[ s ]"with "1,000,000 merchants"? All of them with pre-funded channels to Hamburger Bob?
You've just explained how pre-funded credit cards work, what does this have to do with Bitcoin?
I do not know who will be the first or who will be succesfull LN-Operator.
LN will enable -> customer to pay instantlly to some OPERATOR (payment in miliseconds)
And then OPERATOR will do everything for you just to make money and he will make payment to merchant (even in fiat if merchant wishes)
:-)
We do not need LN for this. This is how all credit cards work, now. Today.
Only with ordinary credit cards, I don't have to pay Visa upfront. Visa lets me buy shit and *then* bills me.
So I can already do what you want LN to do today, wit fiat.
Can You understand now ?
I can also go and get one of those BTC Debit Cards, and make as many off-chain transactions as the VISA network could handle. Without LN-Operator. No fuss, no muss.Can You understand now ?
I agree with you. Card works fine. I'm explaining you how bitcoin will do the same better.
297.
Post 15640336 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I can also go and get one of those BTC Debit Cards, and make as many off-chain transactions as the VISA network could handle. Without LN-Operator. No fuss, no muss.Can You understand now ?
I agree with you. Cards works fine. I'm explaining you how bitcoin will do same better.
Those BTC Debit cards are as much Bitcoin as LN. More so. Without the bother of LN, SegWit, and all these scaling wars.
Just go and get a BTC-backed Debit Card, easy peasy, you're done
Can You understand now ?
BTC Debit card company can go belly up. You will never see your bitcoins. Differnce is with LN channel. You will get money back. 100% guarantine
298.
Post 15640423 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
BTC Debit card company can go belly up. You will never see your bitcoins. Differnce is with LN channel. You will get money back. 100% guarantine
But nothing could possibly go wrong with "LN-Operator," the one that's PayPal and I send my paychecks to every month?
Exactlly. That is why I am buying BTC.
Only I have 100% control. There is no government that can confiscate my Bitcoin. There is no government that can devaluate my savings in Bitcoin. That is why I do not need bank and their "interest".
299.
Post 15640494 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Exactlly. That is why I am buying BTC.
This is not about BTC vs. USD. This is about Lightning Network, and why it's not a scaling solution for Bitcoin.
Not everything is us vs. them.
LN is solution to many problems(not for everything. SC are much better).
We do not need bigger hammer, :-) we can do it smarter. (so LN is THE SOLUTION)
Strong controls weak.
Smart controls strong.
300.
Post 17341466 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
I haven't kept up with developments for a while - which Chinese exchange is now considered to have most (non-fake) volume? I'm assuming finex is light on depth and volume these days, especially post-hack?
I can't speak to the Chinese volume, I'm only tracking Houbi and BTCC and both look completely fake. As for the others, Finex has been a leader lately:
Last 7 days:
[images removed]
Thanks for that. I guess we look to finex for now then. I suppose we can take comfort from the thin bids there, since it shows that few holders want to sell at the moment - everyone expects a further bull run.
Finex ? Do not buy IOU, in the end you will only cry.
301.
Post 17435612 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
Number of bitcoins is limited. You cannot print Bitcoins and dump them in unlimited amount as CB or FED can do using fiat.
302.
Post 17436050 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.01h):
Number of bitcoins is limited. You cannot print Bitcoins and dump them in unlimited amount as CB or FED can do using fiat.
Absolutely right. However, BTC has plans for accumulation with the Alts. Also, do you know exactly how many bitcoins the Composite Group has? I don't think so...
There are plans within plans you obviously haven't considered. Just saying....
This will take time to play out. Just watch..
Or MAYBE you have considered or may be a part of it and you are trolling.
I'm swiming with the tide. I have sold some at $1080 and bought back at $835.
Just play money 2% of my holdings. ... few more bitcoins is making me happy :-)
303.
Post 17599997 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
The next 2 days are critical. If there will be a successful pump, eventually leading to about 1050$ - 1100$, then this will be a EW one, and after months of sideways we'll see 2000$ or more.
If however the pump will fail, then we'll see a major correction, down to about 600$ and the possibility of a new bear market.
Sure, bitcoin price will be negative. They will pay you, just b/c holding bitcoins is too expensive and bitcoins are too heavy to transport.
304.
Post 18351658 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.07h):
Last chance to buy bitcoin uder $1,000 ? :-)
305.
Post 19384960 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Fuck ethereum
That is all
While I agree with that sentiment, however I think its worth adding fuck Ripple too
100% premined, 60% of them held with the team behind it.
fuck all shit-coins too
306.
Post 19385023 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Fuck ethereum
That is all
While I agree with that sentiment, however I think its worth adding fuck Ripple too
100% premined, 60% of them held with the team behind it.
fuck all shit-coins too
I make an exception for Dash
Bitcoin and Dash, and physical gold and silver cover my needs,
Do as you wish, everything has been spoken.
307.
Post 19658375 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Today is a happy day. We are finally very close to a non-contentious solution for the scaling drama of this past years.
Totally wrong. Nothing has changed at all and it's still the same old parties having the same old positions. A contentious Chinese/Jihan Wu fork (only with Barry Silbert added to the mix) vs the other Bitcoin core people:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTgqEBXYAQBgNI.jpg:largeIf you're trying to trade this, it's leaning far more towards a fork disaster than non-contentious fork.
Why keep on posting 5 days old tweet? and snapshots like it was posted just now
Are you saying bitmain will fool us by signaling and then move into own little fork chain?
As i write this there is:
80% segwit2x support for last 40 blocks!
47.2% for 144 blocks
Bitmain will make no difference atall, they too small to make it anymore.
75% for last 80 blocks
308.
Post 20670585 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
....... talking of dumps
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
So what happens if I send BCH to exchange (or somebody).
Can anybody publish same transaction on BTC network and take my Bitcoins ?
309.
Post 20672703 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.16h):
....... talking of dumps
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
So what happens if I send BCH to exchange (or somebody).
Can anybody publish same transaction on BTC network and take my Bitcoins ?
No, your private key is not exposed by the transaction hash, anymore than it is exposed on the regular Bitcoin chain. (edit: unless there is a bug that we don't know about.) However, are the wallets that run BCC free of bugs that could expose your private keys? The common wisdom is to move your bitcoin away from any private keys that you may import into BCC software. Even Trezor isn't confident that their BCC wallet is bug free. Just look at all of their disclaimers.
https://blog.trezor.io/claim-bcash-bitcoin-cash-bch-bcc-trezor-wallet-f0a810d5864aSo what is the difference betwen transaction on BCH and BTC chain. Chains were same before split.
310.
Post 21511822 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):
Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price
Seems, you sold them at the bottom.
Do not trade, you will lose all money. Buy and hold or go away.
311.
Post 21512346 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.19h):
Sold them! The tension was too high lol . Maybe i buy again at a cheaper price
Seems, you sold them at the bottom.
Do not trade, you will lose all money. Buy and hold or go away.
I bought them back hehe, didnt lost much...now i can't go to sleep fearing it wil fall again lol
If I have BTC on exchange then I will not sleep. I can sleep well with BTC in cold wallet. :-)
312.
Post 21805334 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.20h):
Sold it all at $3800. See you at $1/BTC suckers!!!
My bitcoins are only worth 2% more what they were 1 month ago.
313.
Post 22087988 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.21h):
Are you liking the current bear market, gentlemen?
We will go down slowly to $1500.
This bear market will last for five months.
I don't like it, but it looks like possible scenario before $10,000/btc :-)
think positively, You could have more bitcoins
314.
Post 22291876 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
My only dream is that Altcash heads back to 0.20/btc so I can unload the rest that I have.
My dream is that Altcash will find its way into anonymous ATMs or other OTC channels so I can sell/convert mine without compromising the anonymity of the associated real bitcoins.
I have sold anonymously on bitfinex. No verification required if you buy BTC. They ask only for "email" where you will receive notifications.
315.
Post 22293335 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
If we have another fork that even rhymes a little to this one, I can only see bitcoin getting stronger as people buy more in anticipation of the air drop.
Without replay protection, it will be a slow mess to untangle the altcoins though.
If replay protection is not added, then what is going to be the solution, something like 100 confirmations? Or am I misunderstanding the gravity of the problem and adding confirmations would that not be enough?
Longest chain will win.
316.
Post 22293683 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
If we have another fork that even rhymes a little to this one, I can only see bitcoin getting stronger as people buy more in anticipation of the air drop.
Without replay protection, it will be a slow mess to untangle the altcoins though.
If replay protection is not added, then what is going to be the solution, something like 100 confirmations? Or am I misunderstanding the gravity of the problem and adding confirmations would that not be enough?
100 confirmations should be safe enough, quite hard to reverse that much.
But in a fork/war context it could take days instead of 1000 minutes (16-17 hours).
And doubt about the winning chain can add to the paralyzing effect. IF the fork happens, which still remains to be seen.
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
317.
Post 22293999 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
318.
Post 22296586 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
Because it doesn't matter if miners want to do dirty businesses.
Segwit2x is likely not going to succeed
I like 1 MB blocks, but I do not understand how to stop investor majority. They want 2MB blocks.
319.
Post 22296766 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
- It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
- You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
- Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.
But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?
I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.
320.
Post 22297066 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
The Bitcoin network (NODES, FULL NODES) don't.
Simple.
You can emit a block ... but if no-one keep and relay (because of the 2Mb size/8Mb weight), it's an orphan block.
If you have 800-1500 NODES of Segwit 2x ... you must FIGHT the 114 000 nodes with the 1Mb size/4Mb weight limits.
Miners don't matter.
But the earn reward if they follow the RULES of the whole network, the real Bitcoin network.
FULL NODES enforce the rules.
Automatically.
TrustNet is like that.
P2P network are like that.
It's people (nodes).
Are you sure there is 114 000 nodes with the 1Mb size/4Mb ? (I run ONE, but I wil upgrade)
321.
Post 22297186 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
- It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
- You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
- Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.
But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?
I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of
experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.
Oh my? We got our answer. This particular one has "experience," and that is what distinguishes this one from the other FUD spreading trolls.... hahahahaha... and probably this one has "real world" experience, not just that made up internet magic stuffs.
What is your problem ?
- Do you think I do not have 20 years experience in programing ?
- Do you think I do not live in "real world " ?
Who is "we got your answer" -> it is "you" ?
322.
Post 22297282 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
- It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
- You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
- Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.
But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?
I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.
This is not just about code change, the changes are reasonably trivial, and you are right 1 hour to change the code, a few hours to review and some time for others to check maybe a week or two, some testing on the test chain looking at propagation speed and other implications of the bigger blocks, maybe a month or two, a mechanism so everyone running a current bitcoin version can change their code to run bigger blocks, once enough people are signalling we can begin the change, a lock-in period, etc... say a few more months at minimum.
If you want to do a hard fork safely and properly it isn't a 1 hour job!!!!
We don't currently need a block size increase.
And everyone knows we don't currently need a block size increase, this is a power grab, its about sacking the Core development team, and replacing it with.... with.... another ready to go team, but who they are is currently unknown.
I agree. I like current development team. I will not replace them. ... I only know that the next stage is Segwit 2x
323.
Post 22297674 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
- It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
- You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
- Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.
But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?
I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.
When I wrote "You have to know WHICH lines of code... bla bla...", I didn't mean YOU-Odalv. I meant YOU-developer-for-2x-Team (which I assume you aren't), and
those developer(s?) (more than one? Really?) don't seem to be terribly skilled, according to the few who were able to peek into their github mess before they made it private. So nothing personal with you.
BTW, 20 years developing for banks doesn't necessarily mean anything. Many banks still have their old dinosaur system written in Cobol. No, not your banks. OK. From your words, I suppose you must use more recent programming languages, such as C++, so you
are indeed able to tweak bitcoind, allright. Whatever.
However, Mr. Average Bitcoiner doesn't really agree much with the politics and rationale of the 2x fork. He's afraid of China. He's afraid of censorship from his own government. He's afraid he won't be able to run a node any longer because of bandwidth and memory requirements. He likes his SegWit, he waits for the Lightning Network to see what it can deliver.
But let us assume Mr. Average Bitcoiner agrees with 2x. He doesn't care about censorship or centralization. He hates SW. For some very good reason, he hopes LN fails miserably. Whatever. Do you think Mr. A.B. will be so eager to install node software signed by Odalv - even with all these slightly unlikely assumptions?
I'm not writing code for banks for 20 years. (I'm developer with 20 years of experience, ... now I'm witing code for banks)
I'm not bitcoin software developer nor 2x developer. I'm only telling you what is possible. ( I'm HODLER) :-)
324.
Post 22297762 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I agree. I like current development team. I will not replace them. ... I only know that the next stage is Segwit 2x
There was a list of tweets yesterday, with screen grabs from some of the most significant Bitcoin Core developers, where each one said they would refuse to work on 2x, they will probably quit Bitcoin altogether. (sorry I don't have the reference).
I think, if SIDECHAINS is not working then we must increase block size limit. ... I'm big FAN of SIDECHAIN.
If sobedody do not trust bitcion then he his free to dump them all.
325.
Post 22297944 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think Segwit2x has majority 90-95% of hashpower. It will be solved very quickly :-)
and 0% of full node to keep or accept the 2Mb Block size ...
Miners can not force node to "change" of software.
Why do you think, there will be not full nodes with Segwit2X ? It is few lines of code to change limit from 1MB to 2 MB
- It's not 1MB to 2MB. It's more like ~4MB to ~8MB.
- You have to know WHICH lines of code need changing, and change them right. And figure out the technical consequences. The developer(s?) on the 2x Team don't seem to be able to tell the keyboard from the screen. And the team don't seem to care much about censorship resistance, either.
- Node operators, besides trusting the 2x Team to do the right thing technically, must be WANTING to take that step. I, for one, am not.
But I see you're a legendary member, so you know all this. You trollin' me, man?
I'm not trolling you. I'm software developer with 20 years of
experience. I'm writing code for the banks and I can guarantate you, I can add few lines of code and bitcoin core will be supporting Segwit2x within 1 hour.
Oh my? We got our answer. This particular one has "experience," and that is what distinguishes this one from the other FUD spreading trolls.... hahahahaha... and probably this one has "real world" experience, not just that made up internet magic stuffs.
What is your problem ?
I don't gots no problems.
Life is good. We have a quasi-unexpected upwards price bump, and surely I consider our current $4200-ish price is still within a kind of consolidation range; however, it seems to be getting towards the top of such consolidation range (earlier, I had estimated such consolidation range to be approximately $3400 to $4300), and whoaza.. seemingly better than expected, and possibly could be a sign that we may be breaking to the upside, perhaps?
So yeah, some banker shill jobs, such as you, come in with a bit of desperation and spreading "simplified" nonsense "solutions" ... So, that really is not a problem, because it is kind of expected, but I doubt that WO participants are going to let you just spew your nonsense without some kind of attempt to get to you to explain yourself... maybe to figure out if we just have a misunderstanding or maybe you are as retarded as your spouted ideas of simple solutions? perhaps?
- Do you think I do not have 20 years experience in programing ?
Who knows and who cares, and is it relevant? Why do you feel some need to assert that? Probably you feel a need to spout your supposed credentials because you are trying to play off of the naive in your spouting out nonsensical ideas and you are asserting "credentials" because even you, in your nonsense, likely realize that your ideas, in themselves, are not going to be very convincing unless you spout out some supposed credentials.
- Do you think I do not live in "real world " ?
You could be bot.
Who is "we got your answer" -> it is "you" ?
I am merely referring to a common theme that you seem to have with your brethren trolls (get yourselves coordinated! fuck!!! you don't even know what your brethren trolls are doing?). Anyhow, the common referred to theme is your supposed "experience" talking point..... hhhahahahahahahaha NOT
I'm not a bot.
Take it as a fact.
326.
Post 22338145 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
Now we are in a thread where we can be a little off topic I thought I would mention I have come home from work
if you're still working you've been failing as a legendary imo. and that vomit thing is not gentleman even. You should have a platoon of wet nannies serving yourself and the kids now.
Because being breastfed is better than a cigar.
I registered here four hours before rj. He's such a noob.
Ha ha, I am still a noob even now. I will fully admit this.
I have no argument with your statement.
I am not sure if the above is a good proclamation....
Sure it is good to attempt to lower your cost per BTC, but it seems like a mind block, and even a form of inactivity to NOT continue to acquire BTC (on dips, for example).. especially if you have an ongoing cashflow, a certain percentage of your cashflow could go to bitcoin, no?
Even 1% might be sufficient, no?
The amount could even be less than 1%, and still be good... depending on tailoring the amount to your own situation.
If you buy enough bitcoins at the beginning (a much lower price), then it is stupid if you want to increase your bitcoin by + 1% and invest twice as much.
You understand ? (English is not my native language.)
But I gamble too :-) Selling tops, buying dips and extract cash. (with 5% of my long term holdings)
Buy back is not wise because you can lose everything(100%) and everything you can win is the only (5%). ... but good for gamblers :-)
327.
Post 22533500 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.
... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.
The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)
328.
Post 22568576 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.
Well, they never really agreed to Segwit2x. They implemented Segwit, which had widespread support. The miners and services decided amongst themselves to hard fork 3 months later. Discussions of the 2x hard fork itself aside, I think it's reasonable that both Core and users generally oppose such a timeline.
... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.
The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)
The way I see it, the damage was already done. Maybe not for the same reasons as others think so, though. To me, the fact that BIP148 folks (now NO2X folks) wanted to permanently split Bitcoin so they could activate Segwit a bit earlier tells me they don't share my long term interests. If anything, it was an attack on my interests as a holder. Likewise, hard forks -- particularly contentious and hasty ones -- similarly threaten my long term interests.
There's a lot more to gain in terms of consumer (cheap) payments, anonymous payments, smart contracts and more if we are just patient and allow developers to build on top of Segwit.
329.
Post 22570285 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think the declining BTC value of BCC indicates the market is pricing in the increasing odds of 2MB Bitcoin blocks becoming reality.
I think the declining BTC value of BCH (I suppose that's the altcoin you meant) indicates that a certain gang thinks their money is best burned supporting the next attack, so BCH purchases are being phased out.
Yep. Pretty much you sum it up.
RIP BCH. Hello B2X.
Next free money drop, please!
I'm not sure it is "Next free money drop, please!".
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
330.
Post 22570582 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
That's by design, for maximum disruption. A hostile takeover attempt by any reasonable standards.
I think splitting BTC-B2X will require mixing freshly mined coins into one's transactions. The landing chain of the transaction will be the chain where the fresh coins were mined. I still have to figure out how to do that.
There seems to be a different way invoving timelocked transactions - but I won't have a clue about this bit of magic until I research the matter. BTW, for the technically knowledgeable: pointers would be welcome
331.
Post 22570931 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I think the declining BTC value of BCC indicates the market is pricing in the increasing odds of 2MB Bitcoin blocks becoming reality.
I think the declining BTC value of BCH (I suppose that's the altcoin you meant) indicates that a certain gang thinks their money is best burned supporting the next attack, so BCH purchases are being phased out.
Yep. Pretty much you sum it up.
RIP BCH. Hello B2X.
Next free money drop, please!
I'm not sure it is "Next free money drop, please!".
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
Why should I care what is happening on B2X network or on any other Bitcoin [put-some-extra-word-here] network that is trying to mimic Bitcoin network? I simply take what they give me and dump it for bitcoins. Case solved.
They share same keys, same addresses. If you dump at B2X then they dump your BTC. (it is same network, the difference is small -> block size ) ... there is not replay protection
1) if you dump BTC then your transaction will apear on BTC2X and you lose BTC2X
2) if you dump BTC2X then there is a chance that your dump will be replayed on BTC
332.
Post 22571050 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
Your BTC transaction will be replayed on BTC2X.
That's by design, for maximum disruption. A hostile takeover attempt by any reasonable standards.
I think splitting BTC-B2X will require mixing freshly mined coins into one's transactions. The landing chain of the transaction will be the chain where the fresh coins were mined. I still have to figure out how to do that.
There seems to be a different way invoving timelocked transactions - but I won't have a clue about this bit of magic until I research the matter. BTW, for the technically knowledgeable: pointers would be welcome
Ah! Fluidjax has one more trick to share. Thanks Odalv!
I'm not sure his trick is working :-) Be aware.
333.
Post 22571329 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
You don't understand what you're talking about, do you? The bolded part above and the "small" difference remark is indicative you're clueless.
Do not bother.
334.
Post 22571412 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
Mhhh, so I think the best way to split your B2X coins would be to create a transaction very early after the split to an address which you control. It will probably be included in a >1 MB block in the B2X chain, thus making it incompatible anymore on the real chain.
Is my thinking correct ?
Edit: Nvm, I think I am not correct. The transactions after that could still be replayed on both chains.
With 0 BTC fee, but you will have to wait for B2X confirmed and BTC not (you will have to make new transaction and add FEE in BTC transaction)
335.
Post 22571894 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
Then it is ever worth the risk of claiming the forkcoins
Weren't the chains supposed to be separated after the fork day
This is a bit confusing
Yes it is. "forkcoins" can wipeout your BTC
336.
Post 22616667 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.
IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.
Yes, it's a policy, miners could ignore the policy and include the transaction.
No, this is not correct. Transactions to that address are will be considered invalid by 2x nodes & miners; A block containing them would be invalid and not be built upon.
Only by miners that agree to implement this, and do not renege. What guarantee do you have that this will be the case? For that matter, what guarantee do you have that someone does not know the private key corresponding to this address?
I'm just trying to point out that there is at least one alternative method that a transaction originator can use to split their coins, which does not suffer these drawbacks.
As I understand this. Block that contains transaction with recipient 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi is INVALID in Segwit2x and will be rejected. Segwit2x will not accept block that contains transaction using 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi
337.
Post 22776688 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.22h):
I really hope so... Last time it went this fast it hit a massive dump at 5k...
i think most of this rising and alt falling is people moving into bitcoin with the expectation of all these forks.
it looks more and more like 2x is either not gonna happen at all, or it'll be a piece of crap no one's interested in. bitcoin gold is the latter no matter what.
when both are confirmed non events then i'll guess bitcoin will fall and then have a relief rally
+1
Bitcoin The King is confirming its position.
338.
Post 22779838 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
Too bad about AltCash though. It continues its downward spiral to oblivion... currently $329USD/$412CAD (Coinmarketcap).
Bitcoin CrASH :-)
339.
Post 22780689 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
I didn't know that Flippenings could have Reversinings?
ETH created too many millionaires. Time to give some back.
Bitcoin created too many billionaires. Time to give some back.
Quiet you!
All seriousness.. alts will probably start there.next leg up here soon as this was the third wave down for alts. If they do not rise up next few days Id become very verg nervous holding.bitcoin. The great crypto breakout was when btc and alts rose together. I had been waiting since 2013 for that. There were many shakeouts before and I knew since alts didnt move with btc that it was a fake.btc rise and it always was.. so if this thing is real.. alts should make a move here..
As a bitcoin holder id be careful what to wish for. Hoping for alts to.crash while btc rises is actually suboptimal to yourself. Not gonna go into why no time right now. Dont believe me? Watch and see.
I do not agree, I think ShitCoins will die, just matter of time.
340.
Post 22781834 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
I can see the demanding of bitcoin increasing. Therefore, I predict that bitcoin will reach all time high price range of $6000 per bitcoin before the arrival of the coming fork.
What about $20,000 ?
341.
Post 23060862 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.23h):
Dimon is a fool & hasn’t got a clue about the path that bitcoin is taking. Anybody who reacts to comments by him is an idiot.
I totally agree. What an ignorant comment. Not everyone has a $30 million annual salary that they can just "not care" about Bitcoin. Such arrogance in his uneducated opinion.
My formerly smart daughter.
why he keeps busting on his daughter? Not sure which one owns BTCs
[img ]http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4b81bf540000000000d854c7-400/julia-dimon-daughter-of-jpmorgan-ceo-jamie.jpg[/img]
[img ]http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4b81c9c00000000000b1776a-400/and-laura-dimon.jpg[/img]
[img ]http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4b81c41f00000000005bf485-400/and-kara-leigh-dimon.jpg[/img]
They all made it to Introducing Wall Street's Hottest Offspring
http://www.businessinsider.com/introducing-wall-streets-hottest-offspring-2010-2Dimon also says it can go to $100K. Now I understand why they say stupid people are happier.
"I could care less what bitcoin trades for, how it trades, why it trades, who trades it. If you're stupid enough to buy it, you'll pay the price for it one day. I've also told people that it can trade at $100,000 before it trades to zero. Tulip bulbs traded for $75,000 or something like that."It is Dimon's job to spread FUD. He is good at it ... this is why they pay him $30,000,000 USD :-)
342.
Post 23897770 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):
6666 :-)
343.
Post 24205033 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.25h):
looking at the 2 hour optimism chart it very clear to me that we're going up again an should hit $7300 in the next few hours(also go litecoin go)
$8k USD/BTC by end of November.
$12k will not surprise me
344.
Post 24278042 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
What's going on?
Anything happend?
Looks like start of the correction after epic rise to 7800. Guess what will be the bottom support this time?
$5,000 ?
345.
Post 24433594 (copy this link) (by Odalv) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.26h):
If you drank the Blockstream/Core koolaid and dumped your BCH, you can buy them back at 4 BCH per BTC.
Remember, if you're holding BTC and BCH in equal proportion, you'll come out fine whether Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Cash wins in the end.
I DID bet, you are wrong. Time will solve it. Bitcoin is ANTI-fragile.
Big block + Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm will destabilize CRash in the long term. It will die.
