Someone clearly is trying to stabilize the price and limit the volatility. Last night someone drops 11k coins (96 down to 87) and puts up 4k ask wall at 88. Clearly trying to push the price down and keep it down. That was all within 20 seconds.

Today we break through the 100 wall, another massive coin dump and more ask walls at 100 to deter the bid wall. That's not someone trying to make money or get the most value for their coins. That's someone trying to manipulate the market and keep it under 100.

Seems like a rocky road but so far the trend has generally been up. Started the day at ~120-ish, and now its $124-ish. It'll be nice if we can break the $137 level though. That's key.

Scarcity doesn't drive up price, does it?

Is it just me or does MT.Gox use Clarkmoody to check the market?!?!?!

It never ceases to amaze me. Why would people sell big amounts of coin in the low 150's when the price was 168 hours ago?

I just went to check it out for myself - I don't mean actually going outside  myself but drawing the curtains and looking.  It looks really impressive.  I could see people standing outside the church doing something I think they call conversing; likewise people sitting at tables outside the pub with what I think I remember from the old days is called 'a pint of beer'.  Across the road outside Tescos were three members of staff wrestling with someone, trying to take from her a rather full looking wheeled shopping bag (she eventually let the bag go and ran).  In the meantime on the pavement of the junction a child was having a tantrum not wanting to hold his mother's hand to cross the side road.  And all the time lots of people and cars and buses going by.  Two minutes filled with loads of colour and life.

So why is watching some numbers go by and a squiggly line gradually move up or down or sideways - interspersed with reading what people are writing about some numbers and a squiggly line more compelling than going outside and being part of so-called 'real life'?

you just come across as a very immature child

For people who still believe in your lies, you fucking supernode psycho:

What part of "Wall Observer" am I CONSTANTLY misunderstanding?

$135 wall is shrinking rapidly. Good bye $140s for a while I guess?




Really should have sold at $146. I'm taking this as a lesson though...never be too greedy. (Bought at 128)

Well, since I think the number of bitcoins is important, and not the price of them:

- I have already invested all I have, in bitcoin; a BTC500 worth of puts written is the most I can do today.

- I could not care less if it crashed to $10; probably I would just work a little more (to earn more bitcoins as I can earn more per hour), and spend a little less time just living luxuriously for the testimony (which is the more expensive, the lower USD/BTC rate is, as costs are measured in dollars).

I will soon go to the spa wing. Nobody bit the offer for cheap puts

Whatever man, maybe at that spa you will develop a new coin that will fullfil your delusion of grandeur 

87 before the end of the day (EST)

To call him the ringleader is to credit him with far too much intelligence ... snakes ain't that smart
I do object to his blatantly manipulative comments though, and as said before, ALL NEWBIES BE WARNED >>>> DO NOT TRUST THE REPTILE IN THE HOUSE

Double digits incomming

The forex-broker plus500 has now opened for bitcoin trading. 4:1 leverage, someone is going to get very rich or poor...

Even though they also allow shorting, I think this is great for the price, as they accept credit card deposits and is a very easy way for a lot of people to get into bitcoins.

If you can't deposit or withdraw BTC, how do you know you are trading BTC?

If this is UK based, it could be good for me. I'll have to look into it.

Have you ever seen a medium perform where they're saying they hear a voice, it's Susan, maybe Sarah. She's your mother, no grandmother, maybe a childhood friend?

Gotta be able to turn on a dime in the prediction business.

I just started to try.  So far I have been charged 4% for uploading funds to OKPay.  4%! So even before btce and mtgox commissions, you have to write off 4%.  Its sort of discouraged me from uploading a serious amount of money.

I have to say that after being at the conference, talking with the Ripple guys (who did a really valient job of trying to explain to everyone how it works) I still don't understand how it works. To my credit, most people at the conference said they don't understand it. Including some of the core bitcoin dev's and a number of other talented programmers in the bitcoin world. Indeed, no one I spoke to said they really understood how it works.

So, to quote one guy at the conference: "It should make you nervous that you don't understand it".

That's my position on it for now. Speculatively it looks interesting, but the fact that I don't understand it, and guys much smarter and more experienced then myself don't understand it, makes me skeptical of it's future.

The real wall master is at BTC-E. 900BTC @~116.30

"Come on then, if you think your hard enough"!

My reason was the conference. And it still kind of is related to it. My guess now is that Big Money works in groups, Big Money has friends. And their friends now see Bitcoin in the same light the rest of us do(at least profit-wise) - but they're not quite ready. They need to get some internal infrastructure ready for the conversion to Bitcoin. Also they might be waiting on Bitcoin exchange infrastructure to accommodate their level of planned buying; can current exchanges handle multiple buys of millions of dollars?(I am asking, I don't know) So they get back to their Big Money friends like "Yes, we get it now. We just need a few days to get everything in order. Please just hold the price for a short time, to stop a panic buy among current holders(and other companies), so we can start the real buying at these prices when we're ready." This would more than pay for the money their friends spent holding the price, at these volumes its just too easy for them.

My guess would be is that they know a gold rush is inevitable, and that it will be a race. Not everyone knows they are going to end up having to run in this race, but the ones who do want to have a stable starting line as they're walking up, so they can make sure to get their affairs in order without any kind of panic.

As in, this stability is the "take your marks" portion of the race.

OMG, Amir removed his Mohawk... That must be a bearish signal...

Watching this thing attempt to go over 132 is like watching the birth of a baby.


PUUUUSH! Cmon' PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!

Also it's amusing to poke fun at people who take themselves too seriously and/or think they're smarter than everyone else, or have delusions of "accuracy" and "objectivity"

I really can't stand the words cheap coins anymore for some reason.

It's order book spam - it slows the exchange down if someone dumps big and introduces lag.

Just thought I would introduce myself, since I haven't been on this forum very long, although I have been reading it for the last several thousand posts.

I'm in Australia (but not Australian), I heard about bitcoins through traditional media back in April.  It sparked my interest but I was too busy to be able to allocate any significant time to investigating further.  I speculatively bought in at the beginning of May when price was £60 (sorry, I trade in GBP), having just missed £50.  Watched price go up to £87 at the end of May, didn't sell (regretfully) and then watched it drop to £70, at which point I cashed out.  Made a tidy profit (almost entirely by luck) but not as much as it could have been, but that's trading for you.

I'm a trader by day job (commodities, FOREX) and so I was very interested to see what was happening with bitcoin.  Some observations that I thought I'd share with you, primarily to give you an insight into the perspective of a non-mining, non-IT guy with little knowledge of bitcoin but extensive knowledge of traditional markets (and these are the probbaly the same type of guys who are currently manipulating the bitcoin value):

* bitcoin can be compared to neither commodities nor fiat currency at this stage.  It doesn't have the trading volume to be considered a currency (you can't get in and out quickly and you can't use leverage) and it doesn't have a substantial supply/demand market, nor a real 'use' (yet) to be considered comparable to a commodity
* as such, drawing any kind of line on a chart is utterly pointless, since the usual 'rules' (which are dubious in any case) certainly won't apply here.  Even more so considering that past history (pre-April, say) did not include many traders such as myself.  Now it does, so previous trends can be ignored since we now have a lot of price manipulation going on
* price movements are currently being caused entirely by speculation (or 99% at least)
* steady, sustainable price growth will only occur with a much higher volume of trades and with mass adoption
* the volatility of the price is what has attracted day/short term traders
* the illiquidity of the market is what has caused fiat to leave in recent weeks (this was my reason, it became too difficult to capitalise on price fluctuations unless they were arounf 5% due to lack of bid volume)

So, my conclusion (as unhelpful as it is) is that nobody can predict the price of bitcoin since it does not follow any traditional rules.  As such, you can dive in and then jump out again, over a period of time, with a 50/50 chance of making a gain.  Unless you have a very large holding through which you can temporarily manipulate the price.

I'm currently 100% fiat again, looking for a suitable price to buy back in (very speculatively, I'm looking at something around USD52, since I think USD50 will be a psychological trigger with mass-buy in, that will see the beginning of a steady, sustainable, non-bubbled climb)

Having said all this, the more I learn about bitcoin, the more I think that it has fantastic potential.  However, you simply can't allow emotion to influence your position.  Anyone who is trading based on the "bitcoin ideology" is, frankly, exceptionally foolish. Holding some bitcoins that you can afford to lose, in the hope that a bitcoin will be worth $1k in a few years, is fine.  Holding some bitcoins that you can't afford to lose, in the hope that a bitcoin will be worth $1k in a few years, is absurd.

I appreciate that posters get shot down for all sorts of reasons here but I'm just sharing with you what I believe, based on my experience of traditional trading.  I don't know anything about mining, bitcoin history or the current or future impact of Silk Road, and as a trader nor am I really that interested. Hope it helps and more than happy to discuss further.

And a final thing - should I make Jaroslaw my first ignoree?!

My advice for everybody but the most astute daytraders now:

Buy as many bitcoins as you can, regardless of the price or timing. The price and timing will be secondary as the next upleg commences, and commences it will, once there is anything that you can do with bitcoins.

I bought 2,000,000mBTC in September-October 2012. At times I was down 15%. Do you think that now I would give a thought about the exact price or timing? I would, had I not bought the coins.

Everyone who holds anything else as investment except bitcoins has diversified to the detriment of their financial interest.

Government currency manipulation... You may want to ask this guy about that...

I thought the restaurant approach might work in Brussels as well (many restaurants in a tight area), but then, do you want to attract the attention of the EU?

This can swing both ways, good or bad.

If you attract the attention of the EU officials (in Brussels, you cannot *not* bump into them), you put BTC on the EU map which is potentially a good thing, but you also risk exposing it to unwanted regulation, which could be a hindrance.

I'd be interested to know how things turn out in Helsinki.

Oh, I think it's just starting.

They could ban the use of the Bit-tips, for ex. That would put a stop to the initiative.

Well actually Dutch government wants some coins too.
official statement from minister of finance (Dijsselbloem)
source: http://www.nu.nl/internet/3495285/inkomsten-in-bitcoins-worden-belast.html
He happens to be head of EU finance at the moment as well.
also Canadian government wants coin.

I wish  they didn't. The longer governments (especially mine) stay in the dark the better. They will fight when they notice they are losing power ...

They can only regulate as far as we allow them to...
but I do think if the IRS makes it official and governments accept BTC this would be a bullish sign for mass adoption.
and we all know what that means...

A quote from the article:

Not exactly what we want, but that would sure allow more people to come in as it would add certainty.
I mean, there are exchanges that follow regulations now, but I'm sure they are hinting at something more "official"...

He probably already has those officials in his pocket like a handful of satoshis.

These rules are already well established because businesses who transact globally deal with this everyday. When you actually dispose of your coins, by selling or spending them, you have to account for the gain / loss on the coins you use. This requires record keeping, which is probably the biggest issue for non-business users. Hopefully the IRS and other agencies will issue simplified rules, but they certainly aren't going to look the other way if you have large gains from any activity.

and you will keep reading it..

holy crap gold is really falling  

now testing its all time recent low of 1350...


expect Major BTC rally soon

If you believe Gox is dying then put your money where your mouth is 
http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/

ok maybe i'll wait a min b4 buying  

Bitstamp have changed the names on their bank accounts now. Incoming SEPA's now show as "BITSTAMP LIMITED" instead of "BITSTAMP (insert slovenian here)"...makes bank statements look much neater.

BTW, today is 3 months from the bubble pop. And also wednesday  
Let's celebrate it, bears!

Yesterday taught me just *how* pathetic my attempts at reading the Bitcoin market are, and *how* irrelevant both TA & common sense are to this market.
Trying a new strategy today.  Got me some black candles burning on both sides of the monitor, crayons for drawing pentagrams & magikal symbolz, got The Lord's Prayer queued up to loop backwards in Pro Tools.  As soon as my cat learns to arch his back & hiss at the chart, i'll be set for a new day of trading

Could be this? I don't know what to think.

 

I'm a miner myself, and people in here doesn't not understand what a deep change in the game are ASICs. With GPUs, you could buy a $500 set-up and mine to hoard, as the investment was negligible and you could always sell your GPUs to gamers, "recouping your costs" was no big deal and no priority, it was a hobbyist occupation for 95% of the miners.

Now, the only purpose of those $2k, $4k, $7k ASIC rigs is to mine Bitcoin, and maaaany people didn't throw at those machines only "play money". Professional operations with the only purpose of generating PROFIT are being build up. Yes, many are still Bitcoin believers so they will hoard, but after they paid for their costs. And their aggregate costs are huge. BFL has millions of $ in preorders not shipped yet. KnC has millions of $ in preorders, there are millions of $ in Avalon chips, Bitfury machines and whatnot...

Now the very few ASIC miners (mostly Avalon miners, they are just a few hundred individuals) have enjoyed very healthy profits. They paid for their machines in a few days, with a few coins. But the profitability is declining VERY HARD, so more coins will have to be sold by the miners to recoup their hardware costs, which are denominated in FIAT.

Many seem to hide their heads in the ground, but the hard fact is that 10s of millions of $ have been invested in machines which only use is to mine BTC, and those 10s of millions of $ in mining rigs are a cost that miners are willing to recoup ASAP.

Some in here say "well, the BTC/USD will be higher, and miners will have to sell less coins to recover their costs". That's a logical fallacy, because the higher is going to be the BTC/USD, the more people will invest in mining hardware, making the amount of generated coins more distributed and in fewer quantity per individual miner/operation, thus the 3,600BTC generated per day will be probably dumped almost immediately, at least during the next few months, until the mining gold-rush is over and stabilizes, and the miners that are entering the ASIC game pay for their investment.

Said the escort to the football team.

pff. it's not like he doesn't have some "other" bitcoins he would use to dump before the news, is it.

Speaking of btc-e troll boxes. It must be jumping, some big sells in the litecoin market with interesting resistance.

We all know there is no girl on the Internet. 

A Gox run does occur

so Adam dreams away...

tl;dr I like your current style a lot better than your pink RR period

And 99% of the people cannot sell. Only market makers can redeem or create new, baskets. So what is needed is the price of the ETF to drop sufficiently below market price for market makers to arbitrage and redeem baskets of Bitcoins and earn on the arbitrage.

$20 to surpass last high of $233 on MtGox AND ONLY $5 to surpass last high of 206 on Bitstamp. Such a discrepancy...

So we'll need more than just one ATM to replace the current global banking system then?

Bit of a rally on Bitstamp. $214.50 now

Very interesting! This could be huge. Keep us posted with any news.

bitstamp is down again... starting to become annoying

are you still coming to the party?

Are the noobs selling on news?

This news > : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-18/u-s-agencies-to-say-bitcoins-offer-legitimate-benefits.html

lol

Wow, that could be really big considering the number of places it brings a high street presence.

Anyone here know if Coinfloor will open up the London GBP exchange - was suppose to be 5th Nov, but I think software 'fireworks' screwed it up...

Currently re-evaluating software - but no news just now.

Be good to see a proper London Exchange, will help bring a lot of GBP into the market.

Anyone know any news?

https://twitter.com/richardbranson/statuses/403875534339203073

TO DA MOON

this is actually all bullish. media alert with buzz words "china/bitcoin/ban" instant flashcrash - but still hoovering around 1000 $. if we are still in this area in 24 hours bitcoin will come out superstrong.

compared to past crashes, we should be around 450 now.

No Ting Wong

To Da Moon

My train of thought went:
Japanese tv?  No, wrong colour arse!
Australian, US...

....hold on a minute...

that's a UK registration plate. OK, I admit it, it's a 'fellow' Brit!

I know this is Off Topic, but just wanting to put out a feeler for 2 things:

1) Coders here who might be interested in being contacted for a future project related to help with BTC trading, please PM me.

2) Where would *you* post on this site to actually reach out to other good coders where they will see it?

choo choo  

Funnily enough, europe is just not there on the bitcoin map!
http://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/

So all eyes on the China figure. Is that going to reduce now?

This made me lol very hard:

No country has legalised Bitcoin as of now because of its opaque nature

I seriously doubt it is possible to cash out 50 BTC from that market, I saw that exchange But some people may profit a little while it's still alive, sure.

How come StochRSI never went back to overbought during the first climb from 800. It never even crossed 70 up until now and this weird uptrend..

EDIT: Can you "make" that happen so as to trick people into thinking the top is not reached yet?

Choo?

LTC : the sleeper has awaken

If the facebook news is true, I'm gonna buy a pair of alpaca socks!

Goat, where can you buy alpaca socks for bitcoin?

cex.io and ghash.io broke Bitcoin.

Not really, but that's what the headlines say right now.

No spoilers please.

I have heard that a few people have managed to get hold of two of them, but it is very rare.

I might try mining it later by getting into a full bath, and dropping a hairdryer into it while it's plugged in.

What time do the New York hearings kick off?

no. it jives well with the news.

Nonsense, trading with so much volume and the price is going nowhere!!!!
BTCChina

Maybe some bot is running stupid 

This thing is starting to get really scary. Hacking everywhere:

1) Poloniex exchange:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zigmt/another_exchange_locked_down_poloniex_aware_that

2)Flexcoin:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zihb4/flexcoin_is_shutting_down_after_being_hacked

There is seriously no confirmed news coming out of China yet?  

And i'm going to laugh my a* out when some real inquires about exchanges in china will show that they do only 10% of the trades they show and the rest are numbers pullet out of their a*.
I have doubted their volumes since last November and I still doubt they don't inflate those numbers artificially by x5 or x10.

Ok bitcoin, I will go in the garden now to plant various bushes and I want you to stay exactly where you are while I am away, ok?
Don't move!

pretty sure it went down in 1 bite.
i'm suprised 1 person could be so greedy or was he fearful  ?

Here comes the point of pain 

This one year anniversary celebration of the April 10, 2013 crash is getting a bit too out of control.

http://www.bloomberg.com/now/2014-04-30/bitcoin-now-bloomberg/

bitcoin now on bloomberg!

Huobi and okcoin creeping along

BUT BTC-e having a pump - so who is behind the pump ??

it´s not China

everyone is selling their DRK for BTC today.

UK based?

Bitcoins on BBC R4 now - decent programme / debate show.

Guests from: Blockchain / Bitpay / Bitylicious

there will be no bubble this summer. in september (or whenever etf gets approved) a steady bull run will start. it may lead into another bubble in q4. july and august will stay boring...

Wow, that's seriously shitty.  Best of luck to you.

Any idea how it happened by the way?

BTC = looking like 97% scam right now!   

No it's not, LTC follows (and one day it will probably stop following even). Anything else is purely coincidental.

Come on, everyone who's been around these forums for a few years knows this. I was merely being informative.

Did anyone manage to get some juicy 310$ coins?

But man, nobody is filling that btce arbitrage gap, market is in shocking state.

Like the prophets who preceded me in history, I was martyred for shaking up the status quo of this place. I spoke harsh truth that upset certain people who wielded power over others. If you strike me down, two will return in my place to avenge me  

wtf dose that mean?

Litecoin is over 5$ already, seems btc is following ltc at the moment

It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php

Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing?

Assuming you're talking to me:
I think people in this thread are a bit more realistic in their expectations.  Like myself, they understand that players in unregulated markets use every tool at their disposal to their advantage.  Why draw attention to something so obvious?

Is Ripple that centralized thing owned by a company? Kinda like Western Union.

Not only can they prevent new low, they can also launch a new rally on a whim whenever it best fits their plans.

careful NotLambTroll will troll his way into your hearts with those little pink ponies (bit creepy no?)

Not this time.

Shorts getting overly greedy.

EOY rally time. May not be as epic as last year but we're going to rise on a much more distributed base

He wrote some about his personal affairs a while back.  I don't think we would help him by discussing them here.

CCMF 

Is crypto done??  

So it was true, still not a huge blow.

Nejc handled it well. Hope they learn something out of it.

Mind providing the source from where the statement initially came from?

Lets not forget about their fee fraud (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597647.0) and lying about producing financial audits every quarter (links down because of hack).

.....If he leaves this place.....

.@inca; Fatman3001; stereotype:
Don't fret, won't leave you in your current degraded state.



A day without you is a day without laughter.

Interesting, I wouldn't expect that many margin calls from such a small price bump. I wonder if they simply closed out. 

NotLambchop: Why do you waste your time and other's time here? What are your motivations? Saving people from buying bitcoin?

looks like someone hit the wrong button on bitfinex.

Wow, what is this photo about? I mean the original subject, I got the analogy...

I believe this is because Finex' trading engine is supposed to lock down pretty fast these days. The delays are said to last for minutes. People who want to cancel their orders or close their positions have to wait for minutes. It's difficult finding a reliable price with those delays. Does this sound fishy? Can't make my mind up, really...

What has this to do with NATO?

Surely the fun of winding people up after all these months and thousands of posts must be wearing thin. What's the exit strategy?

@nlc continue your useless trollîg and ima dox the shit outta you. For free. For fun. Cuz thats what the internet is all about uh?! Pissing people off.. So just do your self  a favor and take a break from your mamas computer..

I fill in as a temp.

Oh you foolish bitcoiners... your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!!!

Have watched many pages of this thread and what I concluded is,
The thread ain't getting what it is made for, it was for the tracking of price movement and what I saw disappointed me a lot as out of these 11k pages, I bet that >50% of them are just bullshit and trolls which aren't expected here, as some important contents for the betterment of knowledge of people watching this thread gets hidden due to this.

Remember when U.S. Americans were so envious of Europeans who were able to visit the States so cheaply but it was so expensive to visit Europe? Europeans hopefully have a lot of good vacation photos by now. Memories to last a lifetime!

What do you use yourself?

Could be said "I'm amazed at how people take [insert answer here] on charts seriously."

Triangles work. Sorry you feel that way

Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.
But this is too much for bull brain, i know.

Spending too much time here, Mr. Stolfi? The more unfortunate habits of the local fauna seem to be rubbing off on you...

now that the covert surveillance agenda of XT has been laid bare, heck shall we just go ahead and call it espionage in the probability that these guys actually work for lawful governments? Maybe LE enticing people to run spyware is entrapment even if it is open source?

......
You're not you when your hungry.  Maybe you need a Snickers?

Is this fable about Criptsy?
http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=655&p=2477

Today I dreamed that bitcoin crashed to $1 and that shakira was my sister.

Good times... 

Alt guys covering, or fake & break...

No. Evolution has stopped in humans.....who post on the wall observer thread.

Ok, I'm guilty as anyone but no more quoting the long one. Just say your piece and move on.

The good old days when we had central bankers:

Satoshi steps forward.. or someone claiming to be him anyway.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

Australian TV got the story straight, Craig is a clown while bitcoiners are wading through mud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2euMNmsb_s

which raises the question, are Satoshi's coins effectively lost?  If Kleiman who by all accounts was incredibly security concious took the keys to his grave....

like this?

God my ass is burning from hotsauce.
Bullish

What would the ingredients be?

you guys want bullish news? how about this. no joke.

this company:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Federal_Railways

a state owned company with 33k employees and around $8 billion turnover p.a. starts selling bitcoin in all of switzerland.

https://www.sbb.ch/en/station-services/services/further-services/bitcoin.html


here you have - out of the blue - the biggest seller of bitcoin worldwide. a federal railway company. 19th century tech my ass...

Anyone notice that the majority of volume on Huobi is made up of trades in the amount of 420 BTC?

Bricks and concrete? How about barbed wire? 

Anybody got a mirror handy?

Maybe it's time to update some other old memes. Let's start with one for NLC.




 

Interesting new toy on bitcoinity - combined order books:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD

From here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5pwooc/combined_order_book_chart/

i am not a techie. no IT guy at all. i came across bitcoin by means of a historic perspective. what strikes me most is the blatant ignorance of most of the IT guys that i talk about bitcoin. they always laugh. i mean those guys are professionals, the make their income because they figured out that digitization is a mega trend, but they refuse to see the elegance of bitcoin. how can this be?

This price going up then china releasing some bullshit news to hammer it down cycle is laughable.

That pizza wasn't as tasty as this day at the track =D Waiting on better weather to do some more.

Never managed to actually get my knee down, but came close that day...

I don't think there was a Bitfinex hack in the first place. They simply confiscated customer bitcoins because they gambled with short positions using customer bitcoins and lost. What Chinese exchanges did using PBOC hack, before them Bitfinex did using alleged unknown hacker.

In Afghanistan.

lol...ya, no thank you

I live on base, I never leave the gates. There's really no reason to have money here anyway. Everything is provided for you.

It's getting approved, I can feel it.

I find it strange that they did not accept the ETF because they could not regulate every bit of it.

How do they regulate all of the gold in the world for the GLD ETF?

'Rigged against the masses' meaning that the wealthy elite can't corner the market, not in the beginning, and not ever. 

So how long until the World banks issue a pre-mined Bankcoin, sold/traded on bank owned and controlled exchanges, and the SEC says "yeah we'll approve the Bankcoin ETF, no problem." ?

WTF happens with kraken? One thing is stop losses that takes ages to execute.... but now I have a market order "hanging" for minutes without execution... this is a joke!

I have inside news that Gox will open again, they will pay to their old customers what they can when they open, then refill their wallets with the trading fees, like Poloniex did.

They will also accept Litecoin

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Careful now. That's starting to sound like bubble talk.

Yep for BTC and crypto holders of any flavor .....






It's like 'ok smart ass ..your ship has come in ...now what?

fold/run or hold/pucker?

Can anyone inform me with the latest segwith news?
I do not get it anymore.. When does it come?

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

No, that's not how the order book (should) works. If someone goes to sell (or be liquidated) all the way to 2082€ it means all sell orders before that price have been honored.

The only case that could be a bit confussing is if the rise stops at exactly the price you had your limit orders set. Then, if there are more coins from other traders that were placed before yours AND are enough to cover the demand, no single coin from you will be reached. But the price can't rise any single penny above while there are sell limit orders pending at that price.

I haven't had any single problem with Bitstamp but I have never used leverage there, not sure if they already offer it.

For leveraging your alternatives are not much and not good either.

Nice. I just moved to Korea. Now I just need a Korean bank account.

there's always gonna be a higher price eventually. would that figure buy you everything you need? whatever happens i'd always keep 21 or 2.1 coins if i got rid of the rest.

Oh my.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote

Not going to get into that whole discussion here. Hopefully if you're happily married and have been together for a while you have figured it out for yourself.

someone harangued me for not carefully routing around ireland. i ain't got the space for that.

Ugh not James Turk again. That guy is always claiming PMs will explode. un-fucking-likely.

Besides, I like my beer from England, my wine from France, my cars from Japan, my tools from Finland and Germany, my handguns from Austria, my rifles from the U.S.A. and my women from all over. If I tried to get this stuff locally, I would be drinking piss, driving a broken down piece of shit that I couldn't fix, blowing my hand off, and fucking a goat.

From which site is that picture?