All posts made by kireinaha in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 6441847 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):
Premiering next week: The Fall and Fall of Bitcoin
I'm trying to recruit the Winkevoss twins to walk the red carpet, but when I called, all I could hear was sobbing in the background.
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Post 6509938 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
Is it not really strange that the next "China deadline" is supposed to be on a saturday?
omfg china
just block ports 1-999999999999999999999 and be done with it.
SOURCE:ANY | DST: ANY | TCP/1-65535 | DENY
SOURCE:ANY | DST: ANY | UDP/1-65535 | DENY
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Post 6532243 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
Quite amazing how Tera nows exactly what will happen in the next 2 years.
...but not more crazy compared to people who (constantly) claim that we are only a few days away from going to the moon
I think TERA is basing
her prediction based on at the past where there has been long periods with less activity (in between bubbles).
There are no women on the Internet, let alone in bitcoin.
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Post 6562429 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):
still waiting for this "big drop" that everyones predicting wishing for
Yup, any minute now, right guys?
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Post 6578614 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):
Hey Guys look what I found on pastebin, looks like someone leaked some marching orders from the puppet masters.
How embarrassing!
Troll Talking Points May 6th, 2014
Greetings gentlemen, first let me start off and say you have been doing very good work lately.
However we would like to remind you that you need to post in other forums besides Speculation,
as it is becoming quite apparent when you purchased your account from a real member since the account
stopped posting in other forums. Remember keep up your appearances, so as to not blow your cover.
Also some of you have been posting too much in "TOTAL TROLL" mode. Remember you need to dial it back
every now and then and post like an actual moderate bear would. This lends you creditability for your
"TOTAL TROLL" mode, when it is deemed necessary by the powers that be. And also keeps the actual bears
on your side, and they will even back you up sometimes... LOL.
Now onto today's talking points:
* OPERATION FUD - People were starting to react positively to the term FUD being thrown around, and it was
starting to dilute our message. As you know the effort to re-term it to mean Fact U Dislike has worked moderately.
Please keep mentioning it when someone points out our actual use of FUD.
* CHINA, CHINA, CHINA - The powers that be are coming to the end of the China ban milking. Now that China's actual
influence on the markets has dwindled its time to switch tactics. Let's try "China is the only thing that makes
Bitcoin worth more than $100". Find correlations between events in China to price rising and failing. Nevermind
the growth outside of China, keep them focused on China. We want maximum panic when the exchanges finally mention
they are leaving China.
* CHARTS - Now that you've all been through "negative slope" training, don't forget throw up a couple trendlines
that point out how Bitcoin is going down to $0. Remember its not you making the numbers go down, its just what
the trend it pointing out. Don't forget an emoticon for an effective reaction
That's it for today. Your Bitcoin payments are on their way. Don't forget to put your shorts in, as you know we
definetely will let YOU know when the squeeze begins.
lmao
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Post 6594169 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):
Its happening! Glorious pumps!
lol +3%
Ripple took +20% hahaha NOOB
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Post 6594612 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):
Sorry, no choo choo train today. How about Mogadishu taxi instead? Call us at 0616595988-061659... oh fuck it nevermind.
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Post 6601313 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):
No doubt we're consolidating, each correction is getting tighter and tighter. The revised forecast is now May 19 for trend reversal confirmation. Then.. moon!
Edit: One more period of consolidation, but I'll eat my god damned hat if we break $380 from this point.
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Post 6642980 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):
prediction, in < 3 years china will be a free country, because bitcoin.
watch the story that is bitcoin unfold, live, here, now, in this epic thread!
In the future, this thread (or at least an abridged version) will be required reading in all public schools. "The story of how the distributed ledger brought freedom to the world".
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Post 6676749 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
"if CFTC approves of an exchange entity to trade BTC on the like NYMEX or CBOT or any of the commodity trading houses you will see 100k-1,000k% rise weeks before the approval"
lmao... if such an outcome resulting in the approval by the CFTC was plausible, wouldn't every commodities trader worth his salt be buying this shit up now? Even if such an announcement was unlikely to occur, a price jump from ~$450 USD to 100k would be hugely +EV (in poker terms).
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Post 6713747 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
has the exponential growth trend broken? Maybe it's seriously time to re-access the future of bitcoin growth.
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Post 6716224 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
Anybody have a clue on how to invest in bitpay?
its not traded publicly.
Yes, unfortunately. This is where all the smart money is going right now, not bitcoin itself. That should probably tell us all something.
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Post 6716251 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
has the exponential growth trend broken? Maybe it's seriously time to re-access the future of bitcoin growth.
Not yet. Still on track. Cheapness is through the roof now.
The log10 graph is at an all time low I believe. Either this is the beginning of the end or an incredible buying opportunity!
edit: who said bitcoin investors want to get rich for doing nothing? I'm in cold sweats, this is so nerve racking!
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Post 6716268 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
This is where all the smart money is going right now, not bitcoin itself.
Evidence? I need evidence of cleverness as well as evidence of money flow, to support that claim.
Richard Branson invested $30 million last week, no? He's pretty smart!
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Post 6717761 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
Don't let Jedi Sam Jackson down.
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Post 6726690 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
rally mode: on
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Post 6736239 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):
Massive wall put up on bitstamp at $450. Bears are getting desperate!
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Post 6821913 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
Huge rally happening now on bitstmap!
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Post 6822275 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
Huge rally happening now on bitstmap!
How can you tell. It looks like the same to me from stamp and bitcoinwisdom. Can you share some sites?
It's the power of positive thinking. If you wish hard enough, it will happen.
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Post 6826349 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
Are you guys seeing this? What the hell is going on?
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Post 6827104 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
No doubt we're consolidating, each correction is getting tighter and tighter. The revised forecast is now May 19 for trend reversal confirmation. Then.. moon!
Edit: One more period of consolidation, but I'll eat my god damned hat if we break $380 from this point.
Behold, assholes.
MAY 19. Maybe people will begin taking my TA seriously now
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Post 6827157 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
Shouldn't we at least make sure it breaks 475 before we start declaring victory.
Don't need to. We've been +/- $5 from $450 for weeks now, so any diversion from that trend upwards is an
extremely bullish indicator.
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Post 6838030 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
holy shit are you guys seeing this? I really think this is the start of the next explosive growth phase. $4,000 by July?
If you haven't bought back in yet... panic!
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Post 6859443 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
Even the most vocal haters are coming around and embracing bitcoin. Yup, this next rally is going to be epic.
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Post 6865752 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):
http://cryptome.org/2014/05/weev-duns-usg-28296btc.htmI am owed 28,296 Bitcoins. I do not accept United States dollars, as it is the preferred currency of criminal organizations such as the FBI, DOJ, ATF, and Federal Reserve and I do not assist criminal racketeering enterprises.
So, would you like to speculate on his chances of actually getting his invoice paid?
I was following him until this line:
"Know that all this wealth will be directed towards a good and charitable cause. I am building a series of memorial groves for the greatest patriots of our generation: Timothy McVeigh, Andrew Stack, and Marvin Heemeyer."
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Post 6940480 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):
We're still going up? Did someone turn the willy bot back on? (because that's apparently the only way bitcoin can rally)
The FUD just keeps getting better and better doesn't it?
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Post 6963341 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):
Willy must have been turned back on! Thanks, Mark!
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Post 6978490 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):
$600 is proving to be a tough wall to break and I'm beginning to feel a bit more bearish this week. But we'll get there soon enough, so I'm not worried. In two years, we'll all be rich, so I can wait
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Post 7016873 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):
The news that Dish Network is taking Bitcoin is getting some major press: ABC News, Wall Street Journal, Time, Washington Post.
It is always great to get press like this and tends to cause more people to look into Bitcoin.
You know what that means. Good news = dump.
Late last year, it could have been announced on reddit that some ma and pa cupcake store had decided to accept bitcoin and it would instantly rocket the price up $50. Now we have Dish Network -- which will be the largest single company to accept it -- and zero reaction. So it seems we've been a bit premature to assume that we've broken the bear market with last week's breakout. I agree with others that we're going to "consolidate" a bit more before going up again next month.
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Post 7019350 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):
Get rid of those coins, made of the hand of the devil, and you might get reliefed! Otherwise you have to watch Andreas M Antonopoulos naked pulling peanuts out of his ass for the rest of eternity. My dad and i are not very pleased with your little experiment!
Name: JesusChrist
Posts: 1
Activity: 0
Position: Brand new
Date Registered: Today at 05:40:59 PM
Last Active: Today at 05:53:43 PM
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I had to wait like 4 hours before I could post on the main forum
Wel.. He is Jesus Christ
lmao
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Post 7044539 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):
holy shit are you guys seeing this?
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Post 7065234 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):
And there it is ladies.
$666
I missed you, 666. It's been a long time.
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Post 7080716 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):
Can we fuck off with this beer & begging shit now?
This. Please.
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Post 7096518 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
why suddenly 15-20 USD jump any explanation pls.
Hi, welcome to bitcoin!
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Post 7110129 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
Looks like we're headed for a quadruple top at $680?
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Post 7113013 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
And here come all the profit takers at $680 for the fourth time in so many days. This is getting kind of old.
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Post 7113402 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
$680 within 2 hours.
Check. I really don't see anything higher than $681 over the next couple hours. Likely in the 670-680 range.
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Post 7120078 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):
still falling.. maybe a china ban coming soon?
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Post 7151108 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):
Get comfortable everyone, I have a feeling we're going to be stuck in this $666 range for a long time. There's some kind of weird market psychology at play, just like in March.
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Post 7151924 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):
today we had 3 major events
macd 1w crossing
ebay interview
ecb negative rates
and btc price still goes down ? i expected 700+ easy for today.
what else do we need...
There are strong powers working in the shadows to suppress the price, for whatever reason. When their efforts eventually fail (which they will), the kinetic energy stored up will spring forth faster than anyone here can even imagine.
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Post 7170637 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):
fonzie is on the payroll of several world governments to keep bitcoin down. They know that if and when bitcoin succeeds, their national currencies will be reduced to valueless paper. They want to delay that outcome as long as possible, and use people like fonzie to push that agenda.
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Post 7368350 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):
Over $600 again! Of course this means that any moment now, everyone will freak out and the sell off will begin
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Post 7383254 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):
Less than 150 BTC standing in the way of < $600 right now. It looks like we'll be re-entering the downtrend for at least a few more days. This July ATH forecast is looking less and less likely.
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Post 7405611 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
The one week MACD went green momentarily, but the weak hands seem to be getting spooked again, and short green bar is about to return to red bar. Five more weeks of bear market, I:m afraid.
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Post 7406230 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
Are we going to cross back over $600 here again soon? Whoever just dumped all those coins -- and the sheep that followed them -- are going to get left behind and burned if they don:t buy back in pronto. Hopefully they learn a lesson this time around and stop trying to manipulate the price down!
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Post 7419933 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
weekend crash/long squeeze coming. This isn:t looking good, is it?
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Post 7471324 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
Are we still on for the July 24 ATH?
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Post 7493984 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
I dont know why people thinks SR's coin auction has/will impact bitcoin's price.
As far as i am concerned, the price right now is just doing what it is supposed to do.
It's the latest January 30, PBOC ban deadline. This year, for whatever reason, the community loves to draw up arbitrary deadlines and declare that price will rocket right afterwards. If the previous deadlines are any indicator, We'll likely see absolutely no movement or even a small drop after June 27.
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Post 7497428 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
Jesus.... Getting close to that support line...
Where does the support line currently stand?
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Post 7497733 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
Longterm trend not broken, heading back up already
Obviously some big players just manipulated the market down so they can get their bids in at the last moment for some cheap coins. I hope nobody SODL.
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Post 7497839 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):
If rpietila were still active and posting around here instead of obscure altcoin threads, he'd surely be telling us that we're at rock bottom prices right now according to his monthly trend line.
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Post 7511155 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Bid submissions for the SR coin auction are now closed, so we can no longer claim it's interested parties attempting to keep the price down until Friday
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Post 7511285 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Nobody with enough money to buy a block of 3,000 coins is going to bid over the top of the current value on major exchanges. The bitcoin market has been so anemic for months now that all we're going to see are a few low ball offers, and whoever wins will take the lot for a very nice discount. Face it guys, we all want to see a rally, and it will likely happen eventually, but smart money isn't going to dive in on something that is so uncertain in the near term.
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Post 7513488 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Nobody with enough money to buy a block of 3,000 coins is going to bid over the top of the current value on major exchanges. The bitcoin market has been so anemic for months now that all we're going to see are a few low ball offers, and whoever wins will take the lot for a very nice discount. Face it guys, we all want to see a rally, and it will likely happen eventually, but smart money isn't going to dive in on something that is so uncertain in the near term.
Of course they are going to bid above market price.
1) You can't see what the others bid, so you have to make your bid count.
2) Do you think the names we saw on the leaked list or going to register on sites like Bitstamp? No these people buy off exchange.
3) Even if they would buy on Bitstamp buying 3 000 BTC would cost them 1.8 million dollar and this would push the price to 596 and leaving a serious gap behind them in the bid side on the order book. If they would bid at 580 this will cost them only 3000 x 580 = 1.74 million dollar.
magical thinking, my friend. An investor with deep pockets would have no qualms with creating an account on bitstamp or elsewhere... any means necessary to get their coins. The smart thing to do -- and rich people tend to be smart -- would be to buy them in small, spread out orders or just buy them in bulk from someone off exchange. It is magical thinking on our part to believe that anyone will pay above market prices for bitcoins, especially in this tepid market.
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Post 7513695 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
It is magical thinking on our part to believe that anyone will pay above market prices for bitcoins, especially in this tepid market.
If you were ever going to pay above market for btc, now would be the time to do it. Some time 5-10 days from now, BTC will put in its lowest daily bottom, and prices will always be higher thereafter. (Says the monkey, but I will take responsibility this time, because I agree -- and yes, perhaps it is magical thinking. He is, after all, a magic monkey.)
lol what is this magic monkey that I keep hearing of? I must have missed something many pages ago. Is this some rhesus monkey that you've imprisoned and hooked to electrodes to exploit his clairvoyant talents?
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Post 7516229 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
I think it's pretty clear that we're going to remain flat or slightly downward for the next few weeks or months. There are way too many market players who -- for whatever reason -- are doing their best to keep the price low. It doesn't matter. Within a few short years, anyone holding 10 bitcoins or more will be able to retire and live out their lives on a tropical island if they so choose.
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Post 7517730 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Anyone else notice how all the bitcoin high priests and cheerleaders have been conveniently absent for the past couple weeks? The exponential log charts have been tucked into suitcases and the purveyors of these bitcoin pipe dreams are heading onto the next big thing. Makes you wonder... all of us still holding... are we the bag holders afterall?
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Post 7517884 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Anyone else notice how all the bitcoin high priests and cheerleaders have been conveniently absent for the past couple weeks? The exponential log charts have been tucked into suitcases and the purveyors of these bitcoin pipe dreams are heading onto the next big thing. Makes you wonder... all of us still holding... are we the bag holders afterall?
Ask yourself that question, you've been one of the biggest bitcoin cheerleaders lately convinced the price was going to explode upwards. Funny how these types are the first to lose faith and do a complete turnaround. Better let go of that heavy bag of yours and let someone take it who can handle it and have more realistic expectations of bitcoin.
You might have me confused with someone else, friend. I'm typically pessimistic or mildly enthusiastic at best, but my outlook changes on a weekly basis. I honestly can't remember all that I've written in the past, but I've never promised anyone riches and if you look back enough, there have been times that I claimed we're all late adopters and missed the train. I'm feeling that way again now.
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Post 7519241 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
I learned something while reading here.
And that is that nobody and i really mean nobody has a fucking clue what they are talking about.
Anybody who uses this thread to know when to buy and sell might as well throw some dice or darts. The results will probably better.
All these "facts" and charts and lines and people acting like they know it all.
It really isn't much better than the Btce troll box here. A bit more civilized maybe but in the end it's nothing but idiots screaming BUY BUY BUY SELL SELL SELL! We all do it in one way or the other.
Also hilarious how everyone is an auction expert suddenly. And a China expert and an expert in anything really.
Damn, I hope you didn't
just learn that! It's true: nobody in here knows what they're talking about, especially those who believe that the SR auction coins will go for above market value for some irrational reason.
A few people know how to package and present their bullshit a little better than others by using lines and graphs, but it all stinks the same in the end.
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Post 7521270 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
You might have me confused with someone else, friend. I'm typically pessimistic or mildly enthusiastic at best, but my outlook changes on a weekly basis. I honestly can't remember all that I've written in the past, but I've never promised anyone riches and if you look back enough, there have been times that I claimed we're all late adopters and missed the train. I'm feeling that way again now.
So, basically you admit that you have a track record of being inconsistent and wrong.
Thanks for the clarification.
I'm wrong some of the time, but also right quite often. I did call the May 19 trend reversal two weeks in advance... to the very day. Nobody else on here or other bitcoin forums can put claim to that feat. I have my finger firmly on the pulse of the market, and right now I'm getting contrary vibes to everyone who's promoting the idea of a major run up following the auction this week. I don't think it's going to happen. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not putting my pride on the line like you and others. This is merely a hobby for me and I invest a small part of my savings.
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Post 7529594 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
For everyone here who mocked me and told me I "can't be trusted" because I'm too passionate about my price forecasts, well, here's some news that you might not like. I called the price (I picked $565 on the poll when it opened last week). At the time, there were only two others in that camp with me and many, many, many in the >650 camp.
So who are you going to listen to? The guy who will bullshit you and tell you that we're going to the moon after the auction, because millionaires -- for whatever inane reason -- are supposedly going to overpay for a depreciating asset, or the the guy who will tell you what's really going on. I'm right again and the permabull morons who flamed me... wrong. Oh well, what's new.
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Post 7529881 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
It feels good to make a prediction that works out. Good enough that some (overconfident, young, ego driven) take it as a signal that they've got it all figured out and their next prediction will work out as well.
It feels good because all I ever hear around here is how we're either going to zero (the trolls) or "we're going to skyrocket as soon as deadline x,y,z passes". Both are always wrong, and yet when someone like me comes in and makes a sensible prediction of a short term contraction, he gets flamed because it's contrary with what people
want to hear.
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Post 7536126 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
The coil is wrapping tighter. Get ready for the upward spring ladies and gents.
What kind of time frame are you looking at for the release of this kinetic energy buildup? $600 by tomorrow morning?
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Post 7536599 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
If we can continue this climb or even maintain the $580 level without any huge sell offs, we might actually be going somewhere this time!
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Post 7549581 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
If we don't go significantly up today and this weekend, about 90% of users here will be on my ignore list Monday.
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Post 7549742 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
This was supposed to be the big one. Our "Silk Road Event" from 2013... the cataylst to the new ATH. So many people have been claiming that these coins will sell for a premium and catapult the market upward. So if it doesn't happen, then I know who's full of shit and who's worth listening to
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Post 7552009 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
This was supposed to be the big one. Our "Silk Road Event" from 2013... the cataylst to the new ATH. So many people have been claiming that these coins will sell for a premium and catapult the market upward. So if it doesn't happen, then I know who's full of shit and who's worth listening to
Hell I'm a perma-bull, and even I don't think this. Even if the coins are sold for a premium above market (whatever that means), and it leaks out to the public (never gonna happen), I wouldn't expect a huge rally or anything. In fact, I'd place my bets on some really stupid fake FUD leak coming out on Monday saying that the coins sold for $200 a piece or some shit. Prompting yet again another mass panic sell off for no reason at all. Either that, or maybe next week comes and goes without anything major happening.
You see, bubbles are actually created (ie.,
fabricated) by whales who wait for the perfect market conditions to happen + advanced insider knowledge of some major announcements coming down the pipe. Then they start slowly pre-seeding the market with mega dollars to begin the rally. The bubble then feeds on itself, and is catapulted higher with mega media attention + the reveal of the major good news announcements near the middle. This is all planned ahead of time, months in advance. This happens in the stock market as well.
So I just don't see the next 2 weeks as that perfect storm. Perhaps we are still 6-8 weeks away. Or perhaps, not even until next year sometime. I still see a slow steady rise in price regardless of what happens this year.
Edit: Oh you were being sarcastic. Got it.I was being a bit facetious, yes, but the gist of what I wrote was true. I notice a lot of people back peddling now, but there was a lot of talk from the usual cheerleaders claiming that today would be huge. Now it's more like, the coins will sell for approximately market value, and we may not even know for sure. Whereas a week ago, people were saying they'd sell for much higher than market value and other bullshit. Does anyone still believe this?
Anyone? ... anyone?
*chirp* *chirp*
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Post 7552167 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Whereas a week ago, people were saying they'd sell for much higher than market value and other bullshit. Does anyone still believe this?
Well, I can't even fathom what those silly people are wanting or expecting to hear. Auction buyers who paid $800-1000/btc? $5000/btc? These types of HNW professional investors are going to hold on to these coins for a VERY long time,
regardless if they paid over or under so-called "market" value. So wtf does it really matter what they paid for them?
You really think they plan to hold them long term? If they were that interested, then why wouldn't they just buy them from the exchanges or directly from miners already? Why wait this long?
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Post 7552786 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Whereas a week ago, people were saying they'd sell for much higher than market value and other bullshit. Does anyone still believe this?
Well, I can't even fathom what those silly people are wanting or expecting to hear. Auction buyers who paid $800-1000/btc? $5000/btc? These types of HNW professional investors are going to hold on to these coins for a VERY long time,
regardless if they paid over or under so-called "market" value. So wtf does it really matter what they paid for them?
You really think they plan to hold them long term? If they were that interested, then why wouldn't they just buy them from the exchanges or directly from miners already? Why wait this long?
Your ignorance amazes me. You actually think institutional investors want to buy on Bitfinex or Bitstamp? Some do. Others would never touch these exchanges with a ten foot pole. Do you realize that many wealthy people use their lawyers as advisors on every business transaction they make? Oh, forget about it, you're hopeless.
Why do they need their lawyers help to buy bitcoins? Is it really that complicated that a financial genius can't open a coinbase account on his own and buy some?
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Post 7553725 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
This isn't manipulation; somebody knows that the coins are selling at a discount and is dumping now.
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Post 7553789 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Now we'll experience a bounce back up to $580 or so before the next round of sell offs begin.
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Post 7553939 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Wow, went away for a few hours and come back to find this thread has turned into a glorified BTC-e trollbox.
Well fellas, I amn't participating in this stupid debacle of a thread about the SR auction any longer. I'm done. If you guys want to believe any FUD about the auction that supposedly comes out, go right ahead. It won't be true, but whatever.
Now everyone is getting upset because the price isn't skyrocketing like they all predicted earlier. Damn, I hate being right all the time...
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Post 7554888 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Wow, went away for a few hours and come back to find this thread has turned into a glorified BTC-e trollbox.
Well fellas, I amn't participating in this stupid debacle of a thread about the SR auction any longer. I'm done. If you guys want to believe any FUD about the auction that supposedly comes out, go right ahead. It won't be true, but whatever.
Now everyone is getting upset because the price isn't skyrocketing like they all predicted earlier. Damn, I hate being right all the time...
Damn, I love it when you're wrong. Now go and be a good boy and panic buy back in at a loss.
lol how am I wrong? We're at the same price as earlier today. Exactly nothing happened, just like I told everyone for days and got flamed for it.
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Post 7554933 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
nice buy
maybe the US Marshals just realized that they lost their private key and now have to rebuy the lost coins before anyone notices?
3...2...1... Blastoff!!
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Post 7555026 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Wow, went away for a few hours and come back to find this thread has turned into a glorified BTC-e trollbox.
Well fellas, I amn't participating in this stupid debacle of a thread about the SR auction any longer. I'm done. If you guys want to believe any FUD about the auction that supposedly comes out, go right ahead. It won't be true, but whatever.
Now everyone is getting upset because the price isn't skyrocketing like they all predicted earlier. Damn, I hate being right all the time...
Damn, I love it when you're wrong. Now go and be a good boy and panic buy back in at a loss.
Or he/she can just leave the forum for good.
First, there are no women in bitcoin.
Second, if I left, I really worry about what will happen around here. Since this is what you people do to others whom you disagree with (coerce them to leave the forums) I'm one of the few actual voices of reason that remain.
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Post 7555061 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Now everyone is getting upset because the price isn't skyrocketing like they all predicted earlier. Damn, I hate being right all the time...
Damn, I love it when you're wrong. Now go and be a good boy and panic buy back in at a loss.
lol how am I wrong? We're at the same price as earlier today. Exactly nothing happened, just like I told everyone for days and got flamed for it.
No you were wrong, you said we would see a new round of dumping after a bounce back up to 580 but instead we rallied on to 598 now and probably will go higher soon. Let me remind you since you seem to have a very selective memory:
Now we'll experience a bounce back up to $580 or so before the next round of sell offs begin.
This isn't manipulation; somebody knows that the coins are selling at a discount and is dumping now.
Yeah, fine, I'll concede that I'm a little off the mark on that last one. All the bullish optimism must be pressuring some players to panic buy... we're a little under $600 right now, but we're hitting some heavy resistance. I don't think this mini-rally is going to hold up much longer... buying pressure is already thinning out.
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Post 7555199 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
First, there are no women in bitcoin.
Second, if I left, I really worry about what will happen around here. Since this is what you people do to others whom you disagree with (coerce them to leave the forums) I'm one of the few actual voices of reason that remain.
How old are you 10? I don't ignore people very often even fonzie is not on my ignore list (he used to be though), but I will gladly add you to the list. You're a shit stain on this forum, so bye now.
You can ignore me, but you can't ignore my message! Nobody can deny the truth.
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Post 7555298 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
Full disclosure: I'm long in bitcoin, and I want the price to go up just like anyone. But I spoke with my psychiatrist, and he suggested that I take a position contrary to my desired outcome. So for that reason I desire the price to go down... like I said, we're not going to break $600, so just forget about it.
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Post 7555931 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):
I just realized that you can't be more than 23 years old. I understand better now your posts.
You know, I used to enjoy your posts, but something happened to you these past few days. Are you on some kind of mood swing? I can give you the number to my psychiatrist if you want...
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Post 7576832 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
Not a bot, just dedicated.
He was locked into an underground bunker and told that he must post about the market depth once at the top of every hour or a chain of events will occur which will destroy the world. Poor guy can never sleep for more than one hour at any given time.
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Post 7589984 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
It's becoming very obvious that somebody -- or more likely -- some government is trying their best to manipulate the price of bitcoin down. I would guess the most likely candidates are Russia, China, or .. the good ol' USA (perhaps a US - Israeli mutual effort). There aren't too many people out there who can afford to put up and replenish such ask walls, and who would want to manipulate the price down.
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Post 7590611 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
It's becoming very obvious that somebody -- or more likely -- some government is trying their best to manipulate the price of bitcoin down. I would guess the most likely candidates are Russia, China, or .. the good ol' USA (perhaps a US - Israeli mutual effort). There aren't too many people out there who can afford to put up and replenish such ask walls, and who would want to manipulate the price down.
You seriously think a "government" is busy putting up walls of 500 bitcoins?
Not really, right?
Yes, I think it's very possible. I can assure you that there are many high level, closed door meetings occurring around the world about the rise of cryptocurrencies and the best strategies to subversively suppress growth. It is not in their interest to let this succeed.
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Post 7590975 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
It's becoming very obvious that somebody -- or more likely -- some government is trying their best to manipulate the price of bitcoin down. I would guess the most likely candidates are Russia, China, or .. the good ol' USA (perhaps a US - Israeli mutual effort). There aren't too many people out there who can afford to put up and replenish such ask walls, and who would want to manipulate the price down.
You seriously think a "government" is busy putting up walls of 500 bitcoins?
Not really, right?
Yes, I think it's very possible. I can assure you that there are many high level, closed door meetings occurring around the world about the rise of cryptocurrencies and the best strategies to subversively suppress growth. It is not in their interest to let this succeed.
And the best way to do this is by putting up 500 Bitcoin walls at 600.
This really sounds plausible to you? This is something a government would do to stop Bitcoin? You really, truly believe that.
Sorry for all the questions but i just can't believe you're not joking.
We already know that they tried banning it, and then banning it again, and then banning it another five times when the first two attempts didn't work (China) so I don't see why governments wouldn't also pursue more straight forward strategies to suppress it with large ask walls on the major exchanges.
edit: Lest we be naive, government spokesmen on an individual basis may get before the cameras and tell us that they support bitcoin, because they don't want to look unhip or behind the technology curve to their constituents, but on a collective basis, world governments absolutely do not want bitcoin to succeed.
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Post 7593466 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
I guess we're going up?
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Post 7593502 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
I guess we're going up?
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yup, you were right and I was wrong. lol. but i'm happy, I'm still holding
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Post 7605888 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
Holy shit, are you guys seeing this?
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Post 7606016 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
We still don't know the final price and if they did, in fact, sell for a premium or not. All we know is a couple major players were outbid. Big deal. This is beginning to feel a little toppish, so I wouldn't start celebrating just yet.
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Post 7606429 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
How are we still going up? This can't be possible!
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Post 7625587 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
http://coinfire.cf/2014/06/30/breaking-usms-auction-winners-notified/A verified source with the USMS who wishes to remain anonymous stated to Coin Fire, “It is really important that we get this 100% right. We have to verify that they aren’t tied to any sort of criminal activity, we have to verify we have the money from the wire transfer. If we send the coins we understand we will have no way to reverse the transaction so every step is being taken.”
Makes sense to me. We are dealing with the government here and obviously if they can't even send an email right, its probably the best thing they can do.
I've worked for a government agency in the past (as a contractor), and most of the government people around me were "equal opportunity"... people who could barely read or write but hired to meet some quota. Computer skills typically extended no further than opening a web browser to open Yahoo's front page. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lose the private key to the coins. Right now they're just trying to cover for it.
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Post 7626875 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):
They all went to one bidder?
Well, clearly we must all panic now!
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Post 7630378 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):
So today we had two major retailers announce that they're taking bitcoin and we're now lower value than we were 24 hours ago. This market is brutal.
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Post 7680530 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):
We don't need major news; we've already had crazy good news for weeks. there is just too much sell pressure. Someone, or some organization -- for whatever reason -- has been doing all they can to keep the market value artificially low. Once their cache is depleted, we will go up again faster than most can imagine. That could take weeks or months though.
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Post 7697630 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):
I take back my "yes" vote.
We've seen this before... it looks like the market will slowly bleed down today and should be testing $600 yet again by Monday or Tuesday. I expect the next few days to be quite boring.
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Post 7720370 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):
We've seen this before... it looks like the market will slowly bleed down today and should be testing $600 yet again by Monday or Tuesday. I expect the next few days to be quite boring.
I hate it when I'm right.
I'm starting to give more thought to the idea that we've already seen the "2014 summer bubble" in the run up to $680 in May. So basically, we failed to launch, and 2014 is going to be a very boring, disappointing year.
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Post 7758476 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):
I'm pretty sure we're going down again within a day or two max. I wish it weren't so, but the market sentiment seems to be dropping again and I'm getting strong vibes here.
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Post 7772113 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):
Monkey says 610 was probably a bottom for the day.
I know that will seem obvious to many.
But hey, I'm buying so I'd like company.
Thank you for the 500 BTC buy on Stamp, but it still only managed to push us up to $619
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Post 7792041 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):
Seat belt fastened. Mission Control, we are ready for launch. Countdown in 3..2..1...
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Post 7792683 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):
Some clouds have appeared over the launch pad. Sorry everyone, rocket launch has been delayed by mission control.
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Post 7848482 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):
Still trending down I see. The question now is, will we be re-entering the $500s or the $400s?
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Post 7860764 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
I have the seem feeling.
Slowly but surely... 2 da M00N!
No such thing in Bitcoin
Just ask this guy waiting to break even on his investment from last fall
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Post 7882432 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
Someone clearly wants to keep bitcoin price suppressed for whatever reason. But it's all right, we should be happy that we have more opportunity to buy at such incredible low prices while we still can. It feels like it's dragging on forever, but it won't.
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Post 7882899 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
I'm impressed with how well the market is handling these dumps. Price drops, then slowly grows right back up to near previous levels. I'm not sure if the dumper will be able to foster much more fear (not that I'm challenging them!).
We can just hope that this is not insider...
An insider that is trying to get out of BTC would hopefully want to maximize their fiat by selling a little slower.
If I had to guess, I would say it is either someone trying to keep price low in order to accumulate, or to collect interest on BFX longs, or to create a BFX long squeeze.
I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of some type of government agency or cooperative effort between major banks. Let's not forget that there are many people who want bitcoin to fail, and it's not a stretch of the imagination to think that they're taking subversive efforts to dampen market sentiment. Why else would someone dump 1,000 BTC+ on the market all at once?
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Post 7883306 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
I don't believe there are that many above 70.
I don't believe there are so few under 18
don't know many 18 years old with money to invest...
Nor the attention span to stick around during these prolonged periods of sideways movement. The 70+ category, I call bullshit on.
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Post 7895121 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
Why's everyone selling!???
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Post 7910832 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
we are going down
Yes we are, and it's fantastic. This will be the final consolidation before the coming rally!
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Post 7912079 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):
Very exciting times. Newegg, Expedia, now Dell in just the past few weeks. I think the skeptics are going to become quiet very soon and the "bitcoin is a ponzi scheme" camp is finding less and less footing to stand upon. If we don't break the $666 resistance very soon, I will be extremely shocked.
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Post 7993485 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
Market is so bullish right now, but every single time we start to climb up, the bear whale shits on it and dumps 500+ BTC all at once. He'll run out eventually, and will then be ultra pissed when the next rally begins.
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Post 8006194 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
Sorry everyone, I was born a member of the church of Satoshi and I will die a member of the church of Satoshi.
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Post 8009105 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
I feel bad for everyone who sold at < $600 expecting it to drop further.
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Post 8009296 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
I feel bad for everyone who sold at < $600 expecting it to drop further.
Why you are feeling bad, market still around 600, so you can't say we are now going upwards.
Pretty much everyone who was going to sell has already done it, except for our bear whale friend who has been dumping incrementally for the last few weeks. The mythical date of July 24 has come, and it was completely natural and healthy for a few holders to get spooked and sell, anticipating a sharp drop. Now that we're stable again at $600, they'll likely buy back in and we'll go up again.
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Post 8011058 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
Well, at least I called it right last week when I voted that price would be $610 on 7/25. And once again, the bulls get slaughtered. Did anyone really think we would push past $720, or is that what they *wanted* to believe?
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Post 8023464 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
Don't mind me, just doing my part to get us to page 7777.
lol
We're dipping below $600... need to get to 7777 faster!
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Post 8031129 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
pretty sure it's due to people waiting for the NY regulation update - we may not care what they say but it may have some affect on price in the short term.
nobody gives a shit about the nysdfs guidelines, that's just a distraction. as others have said, people are getting tired of waiting, tired of the sideways snoozefest, and thinking of better things they'd like to use their money on. this is a necessary step though... once speculators give up on their inflated expectations, we can go up again. but it's going to take weeks, at least. I don't know why we all waste our time on here so much.
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Post 8031220 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):
Starting to look like 2014 will be the worst year for bitcoin ever...
Walls are getting pulled
from 2.5k coins to 590 to 200 coins...
Even if we stay at current levels for the rest of the year, it wouldn't be the worst year ever
bitcoin has never concluded a 12 month period at a lower price. if we reach Novemeber and are still at this price level, even I'm giving up on it. because it would be clear at that point that it's over: world changing innovations don't just stall for a year for no clear reason.
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Post 8067479 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
WHATS HAPPENING!?!
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Post 8094214 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Delusional... is that one of the steps before a market turnaround? I'm thinking it comes before anger and finally acceptance. This place is full of delusional posts, so we're not going anywhere for awhile.
Here's the real deal: we're on the seventh daily red candle in a row, and (once again) weak volume, can't break $590. I think a re-rest of the $570 support is much more likely than a return to the $600s...
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Post 8104472 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Wall street investors are all on exotic beaches playing volley ball right now and don't have Internet connections. They'll be here in September and then it's to the moon!
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Post 8104535 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Everyone who invested late last year or early 2014 and has been holding... that bag must be getting pretty heavy at this point. 2014 is going to be the worst year ever for bitcoin. Hopefully 2015 is better, but I rather doubt it.
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Post 8106173 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Shroom speaks the truth. It's a hard reality that many don't want to accept, but somebody has to say it.
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Post 8106940 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Nobody cares about merchant adoption anymore. That's all priced in. The general public is now thinking, "so why exactly do I need to buy bitcoin?" These are the same people who don't mind that the NSA is spying on them, because "as long as you're not doing anything bad you have nothing to worry about."
They've been watching the price tank all year, so there's no compelling reason for them to invest. Now, all we have is "old money" trading hands. Things are looking bad, guys.
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Post 8108284 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):
Time for a bounce?
who will win it
In case you haven't noticed, bitcoin doesn't "bounce" anymore. We fall, hit support, move sideways for a week or two, and then fall more. Rinse, repeat.
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Post 8111279 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):
Just a reminder to all less experienced speculators out there: never throw good money after bad.
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Post 8113881 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):
This buying is very unusual. Someone or a group of people have been consistently and regularly buying for the past 4 hours now. 555.9 on Stamp might be the turning point.
...Willy?
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Post 8121170 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):
the price rises from yesterday (still lower than a couple days ago) and everyone is in moon mode again. This place cracks me up.
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Post 8138475 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):
What happened to your doomer predictions earlier in the week?
My little brother was using my account and posting all kinds of FUD. I kicked him off.
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Post 8215575 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
huge buy order on stamp! Is this GABO buying?
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Post 8216520 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
I think between the incredible news of GABBO and Global Payments' sign on, we might be starting something very big here...
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Post 8217275 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Why even bother buying? The sellers will take us back to 580 guaranteed. Just a waste of money at this point to buy anything above that price.
...and right on schedule, here comes the large sell off.
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Post 8220400 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Good/Bad News: We never had 5 red weekly candles in a row after June/July 2011!
What about March/April this year?
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Post 8233791 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Price up a little today, and I see that our bear whale friend hasn't executed his 500+ sell order yet to pound us back down to $580. Is he finally running out of coins or just letting this run a bit longer?
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Post 8239355 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Thursday is most bullish day of week. Friday is the bear whale's favorite dump day, and then by Sunday we will be in the $570s... if we're lucky. Sorry to be pessimistic my good sirs, but when you've played this game as long as me, it happens.
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Post 8241317 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Thursday is most bullish day of week. Friday is the bear whale's favorite dump day, and then by Sunday we will be in the $570s... if we're lucky. Sorry to be pessimistic my good sirs, but when you've played this game as long as me, it happens.
It does NOT happen the same every week, even though there may be a pattern. What kind of odds are you giving to your prediction... 90%? 60%?
I'd say it's almost a sure bet that Friday and this coming weekend will follow the direction that I outlined above. Perhaps my dollar amounts will be off, but we'll likely see a correction back down to ~$580 tomorrow followed by a slow bleed on anemic volume through the weekend. This week has been following the same pattern as the past several, and this is what has happened every time.
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Post 8241667 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Huobi goin hard. $598 and pushing
Woohoo, look at them go.
Is there something that happened in China we should know about? Or are they just tired of waiting for a rally like the rest of us?
That and they don't have to deal with the bear on bitstamp. If the fiat from China was on bitstamp this bear would have been wiped out already.
Why hasn't he dumped yet? Has he finally ran out of coins? Maybe he's asleep right now and his phone is out of battery so it can't send him price alerts.
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Post 8274328 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Last one hour candle closed with volume of 6 BTC on Stamp. lmfao.
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Post 8297164 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
I actually hope that we stay flat like this for several more years, because each week my dad gives me $10 allowance and I like to put half of that toward bitcoin. In 4 more years, I can have 2 full bitcoin!
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Post 8298293 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!
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Post 8298663 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!
No thanks.
And please quit with the weak hands myth.
I don't get it. Last winter there were tons of people on here saying that if prices fell to $100 or $200 or whatever they would take loans out on their home equity, cash out their 401k, etc, to buy as many as possible. Don't we still want this?
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Post 8299212 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Oh Jesus guys, sell sell sell and keep it low for the next month.
Why??
Because we all love cheap coins.
Protip: good traders buy on the way down and sell on the way up.
How many more years do you want Bitcoin to go down exactly?
You've had 5 years for cheap coins. Wasn't that enough?
Do you realize you will make money if people stop selling all the time and the price goes up?
Me personally, I didn't know about bitcoin for the first few years. I have $5 a week to invest, so I hope it stays at least at the $400 level for the next few years so I can catch up with everyone else! Then we can go up again
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Post 8299341 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
I was hoping it to go lil low
560 and I'm ready with lil buy order
now I guess its recovering back to where it is from last couple of weeks.
So you're gonna risk losing out and probably panic buying at 600 because you want to save 20 bucks per coin?
There are buyers not only investing their allowance of 20,00$ to accumulate 1 Bitcoin. For adult investors, investing +10,000$ it is a difference. But you can't grasp it...
15 minute chart on Stamp looks like a tsunami. The first wave just crashed and left us a bit dazed, but now the water has pulled back and is prepping for the monster wave! We'll be testing $550 shortly I suspect. Hold on! Nom Nom!
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Post 8300310 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!
No thanks.
And please quit with the weak hands myth.
I don't get it. Last winter there were tons of people on here saying that if prices fell to $100 or $200 or whatever they would take loans out on their home equity, cash out their 401k, etc, to buy as many as possible. Don't we still want this?
Of course NOT... why would we want BTC prices to be suppressed to such a low level.. that is ridiculous to even suggest it.. b/c such a low price would demonstrate an extreme low confidence in BTC value... and as we know, we got into the mid-$300s for a a day or so, earlier this year.. for our post ATH low... and absent some extreme news, it seems fairly unlikely that BTC prices are going to see the $400s again...
But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again. Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.
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Post 8300685 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again. Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.
Then your friends at school are complete idiots, because they can buy any amount of bitcoin they can afford. They can buy $580, $58, $5.80, hell they can buy $0.58 or $0.001 cents worth. It's all the same, it's all bitcoin. Owning "whole coins" is illusory, it doesn't exist, it doesn't even matter. Even the idea of a single "bitcoin" is simply a meaningless abstraction.
A bitcoin is simply an abstract unit of measure, with relative value that changes over time. Like the ounce is in the gold and silver world. No one goes around saying "Hey, I own X number WHOLE ounces of gold!!" No, they say "I own $6000
worth of gold."
I think they realize that, but they told me it's not fair that earlier investors could by hundreds of bitcoins for pennies on the dollar and they need to pay $580 to buy just one. So for that reason, they're going to wait until prices come back down again. And then my math teacher said that bitcoin in a ponzi scheme, and that "true value" is only $10 per coin, because he read about it on the Internet. That's just how people think, I guess.
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Post 8300706 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
is crypto done?
No, my friend. We're just having a back to school sale right now
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Post 8301040 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Summer... August... That's all. We will be moving around 600 for the next weeks. Later we can watch an steady long term rise or high pump.
heh I don't think so. Bid walls are so anemic and have been for weeks. Demand is so weak right now, it will take a special catalyst to move us above $600 again in the short term. It's just not out there, I'm afraid. More steady bleeding down is much more likely for the next few weeks.
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Post 8301118 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
Thursday is most bullish day of week. Friday is the bear whale's favorite dump day, and then by Sunday we will be in the $570s... if we're lucky. Sorry to be pessimistic my good sirs, but when you've played this game as long as me, it happens.
I hate being right all the time. I was off by one day, but still, in general, I was spot on with the general market sentiment.
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Post 8301779 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
LEGENDARY is higher than HERO MEMBER STATUS.
Soon we'll have our fair share of "legendary" trolls. lol.
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Post 8303311 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
adam is too busy digging up his "hodl" coins from his backyard and trying to remember the BIP38 password so he can sell.
Honestly, I think we can look at something like doge to get an idea of bitcoin's future from this point forward. Doge is like bitcoin on fast forward. We'll probably go several years from here just steadily bleeding down, until we hit <$100. From there, maybe we start all over again and go up?
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Post 8303543 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
It is quite easy to be a bitcoin bear in 2014, none of you can deny that. We're almost finished with this year and it has been nothing but down, sideways, down, sideways, down, sideways, up (slightly), sideways, down, sideways, down...
What did Carl Sagon say about insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
If you're not a bear right now, then I'm sorry, but you're just insane.
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Post 8303596 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):
It is quite easy to be a bitcoin bear in 2014, none of you can deny that. We're almost finished with this year and it has been nothing but down, sideways, down, sideways, down, sideways, up (slightly), sideways, down, sideways, down...
What did Carl Sagon say about insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
If you're not a bear right now, then I'm sorry, but you're just insane.
I am utterly insane then... more Bullish than I have ever been at this point...
and it is SAGAN
I used to be insane as well, but don't worry, there is time to see the light. In my case, falling, iggor, dump3r and friends helped me see the error in my ways.
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Post 8305244 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
It is quite easy to be a bitcoin bear in 2014, none of you can deny that. We're almost finished with this year and it has been nothing but down, sideways, down, sideways, down, sideways, up (slightly), sideways, down, sideways, down...
What did Carl Sagon say about insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
If you're not a bear right now, then I'm sorry, but you're just insane.
That quote is from Sigmund Freud... heard of him?
And, yes... get a grip on the bigger picture.. 2014 is 7/12th's completed.. or 7.5/12ths or 15/24ths... or 5/8ths complete..
Even if this happens to be an overall "down" year for bitcoin, so fucking what?
Sigmund Freud may have said it, but it was originally spoken by Mr. Carl Sagan.
2014 has been one hell of a bad year for bitcoin. It's going to be harder than ever now to convince my friends to invest in an asset that has been decreasing in value steadily for almost a year. I think at this point any potential investor who looks at a long term graph is thinking... "OK, where else can I put my money?"
Sorry guys I'm not trying to "troll" you all, but you've got to admit this shit looks bad.
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Post 8305367 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
sigmund freud died in 1939. carl sagan was born in 1934. i doubt 5 year old carl sagan coined it.
Maybe he time traveled in the "ship of the imagination" and said it before Sigmund
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Post 8313442 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Even the most ardent long term investors are growing tired of the slow bleed down and want to drop this under performing investment. So that's what we're seeing now... it's not manipulation.
You can't blame them; asking people to hold a stake in relatively new technology that has been in a bear market for 9 months is a pretty tall order, and at this stage in the technology life cycle, is a pretty good indicator that interest has simply dried up and moved elsewhere. We all know the "honey badger" and all that, but continuing to hold in this kind of market is basically a leap of faith.
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Post 8313928 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Sigmund Freud may have said it, but it was originally spoken by Mr. Carl Sagan.
Sigmund Freud
Born: May 6, 1856, Příbor, Czech Republic
Died: September 23,
1939, London, United Kingdom
Carl Sagan
Born: November 9,
1934, Brooklyn, NY
Died: December 20, 1996, Seattle, WA
So unlikely to be the case. Likely it's apocryphal but I always heard it attributed to Einstein.
Yes, an earlier poster attributed it an Alcoholic Anonymous handbook from 1979, which may or may not have been penned by Carl Sagan
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Post 8317126 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Doesn't matter, I'm selling now. Time to get out fellas.
Can I have your jezus coins?
Sorry, I don't do altcoins. Bearish times for BTC ahead, I'm afraid.
If Jesus Christ decides to sell... then I think it's time to sell.
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Post 8317844 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
This has to be the weakest bull trap I've ever seen. It will break soon followed by several more weeks of sideways down trending. TERA tried to tell you all this but you drove her away for having a "contrarian" opinion.
The bulls right now:
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Post 8319100 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
This has to be the weakest bull trap I've ever seen. It will break soon followed by several more weeks of sideways down trending. TERA tried to tell you all this but you drove her away for having a "contrarian" opinion.
You're so right, man! My bitcoin that was worth $588 yesterday is only worth $570 today!!! What a devastating crash, a btc crash to end all crashes!!
(In. case. you. can't. tell. that. was. mega. sarcasm.)And it was worth $600 a couple weeks ago and worth $630 a week before that and $680 only a couple months ago. You're welcome to keep holding if you'd like, but smart people are reducing their exposure right now.
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Post 8319695 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”
+1
Although I have the luxury of such actions and I'm aware others are not.
Don't go bringing Jimmy Buffet quotes in here. He said himself to stay away from commodities.
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Post 8319847 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Don't go bringing Jimmy Buffet quotes in here. He said himself to stay away from commodities.
Jimmy Buffet eh?
yeah this guy ....
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Jimmy_Buffett_1.jpg[img]
Yes, that gentleman is a billionaire investor and he specifically said in an interview earlier this year to stay away from bitcoin.
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Post 8320094 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
This has to be the weakest bull trap I've ever seen. It will break soon followed by several more weeks of sideways down trending. TERA tried to tell you all this but you drove her away for having a "contrarian" opinion.
You're so right, man! My bitcoin that was worth $588 yesterday is only worth $570 today!!! What a devastating crash, a btc crash to end all crashes!!
(In. case. you. can't. tell. that. was. mega. sarcasm.)And it was worth $600 a couple weeks ago and worth $630 a week before that and $680 only a couple months ago. You're welcome to keep holding if you'd like, but smart people are reducing their exposure right now.
...and $450 three months ago. Forgotten that?
Well, I think that represents where we're going again over the next few weeks. You need to remember that in May everyone was calling for the next huge rally in late July. There were graphs and TA everywhere calling it, and much of it looked quite convincing. All it took was a small spark to ignite that frenzy up to $680, but when nothing materialized, investors lost hope again.
What do we have to look forward to now? There are some half heartedly calling for a bubble in October or November, but I don't think they even really believe it. We're all just blindly hoping now, so I think a return to the April/May price levels (or lower) is just about inevitable now.
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Post 8320388 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
I'm not surprised that transactions have risen in the past few days, but can't that just be attributed to holders getting spooked and sending their coins around to sell? If so, then yes, transactions are rising, but it's far from a good indication for future price forecasting, imho.
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Post 8320633 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
NOPE>>>>>> he is an adult, who is trying to get away with some of his stupidity by acting as if he is a teenager, but it is all a ruse.... He is a troll, though...and certainly a FUD spreader..
He learns really fast and is doing the job better, day by day.
Hey, Dump3er. My shift is over and I'm going to go grab dinner. Can you take over for me on the Troll Observer thread? Thanks
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Post 8325013 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
2014 is the year of bitcoin!
Remember that?
I've got to hand it to the community, you guys did put on a good PR campaign. I'm glad I sold the last of my position a few days ago. If this is the year of bitcoin, I don't want to be part of it anymore
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Post 8325065 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
And for my last post, even bitcoin itself is telling me to go fuck myself (on the 15 minute chart).
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Post 8325224 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
I just sold whatever i had left. It's clear, Bitcoin is dead.
It failed. This year was make or brake. It broke. People lost interest. Everyone is getting out.
You have to be delusional to think the price will go up suddenly again.
Face it, this is the 5th or 6th year already. This is the time where it was supposed to happen and it simply failed.
People aren't gonna be suddenly interested again in 2 months again.
It's over. There is one way this will go and it isn't up.
agree, you would have saved more $$$ if you sell earylier at $62x as i told you
There are still some people in here who are convincing themselves and each other that this is a "silk road moment" or "despair phase". I guess some people are just beyond helping
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Post 8325539 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
There is clearly a reverse cup and handle forming on the bitstamp chart... classic indicator of another breakdown soon.
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Post 8332125 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Bitcoin is only down 4% from yesterday, goys!
...and 7% from two days ago. And 10% from two weeks ago... and 13% from a month ago...
Ahem... carry on!
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Post 8332228 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Bitcoin is only down 4% from yesterday, goys!
...and 7% from two days ago. And 10% from two weeks ago... and 13% from a month ago...
Ahem... carry on!
...and 20% up from three months ago.
Oh, we're well on our way back to the $400s I'm afraid. Some people here seem to think I take pleasure in watching the price drop. I don't. I believe in bitcoin and that was the reason I invested in it originally... but obviously we've derailed at some point and mainstream adoption is looking less and less likely. Look at the devastation to the alt coin market over the past few days. This is what is happening to bitcoin, just on fast forward.
You know... the bigger they are, the harder they fall?
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Post 8332342 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Well, what are the thoughts on breaking back I to the $400s?
We have a tripple bottom on this levels now. Wouldn't bet on sub 500$.
This isn't a triple bottom. We smashed through it hours ago, all the way down to $520s. Now we're seeing a bounce, but there's no use fighting the tape. This trend will continue down.
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Post 8333095 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Ease up. 27 pages so far today and the day is only half done.
I scrolled through all those pages checking posters's names, to see if one of the three or four people worth reading had contributed.
Nothing but the usual cataract of logorrhea and cutesy images.
All the people worth reading like TERA were driven away by the HODL-tards for giving contrarian views. After all the juvenile attacks against them, why would they come back? All you delusional bulls have each other now.
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Post 8333460 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Funny to watch trolls like benihana come out and play chicken little.
Ask yourself, has anything changed fundamentally with Bitcoin? Is there something wrong with the protocol? On the contrary. Businesses and investors (professional and amateur) are clambering to get aboard.
The sharks are in the water and they smell blood. Don't sell during these times unless you know what you're doing. And if you have to get advice from this forum, you don't know what you're doing.
People say this, but I don't think they really understand it. Bitcoin doesn't need to fundamentally change. It is what it is. And what it's been, for the past 5 years, was an asset that could be held and would run up in value every year. Finally, in 2014, it can be used with some mainstream merchants, and people have taken advantage of that. But the distinction we need to make here is... bitcoin holders themselves are the ones taking advantage. Very few people are buying bitcoin to turn around and spend them. That is not the drawing point... it is just an added amenity for those who already hold and want to use them.
So without the yearly price increases, bitcoin suddenly loses its luster. Today, Amazon entered the mobile payments realm. No bitcoin has not fundamentally changed, but the world around it has. And it seems like the world is saying, we're not interested in bitcoin anymore.
There have been greater ideas than bitcoin that ultimately failed. Just saying.
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Post 8333556 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
All the people worth reading like TERA were driven away by the HODL-tards for giving contrarian views. After all the juvenile attacks against them, why would they come back? All you delusional bulls have each other now.
There have been countless others that have come through here only to be driven off. It doesn't matter if they're bulls or bears, there's absolutely no control here, and after the removal of noobie jail it's just gotten worse. Couple that with a mod who's asleep at the wheel, or a general bull-troll himself and what do you expect?
These forums have absolutely gone to shit since the beginning of 2013.
Start reporting stuff? This particular thread aside (which by the way is moderated by Adam), I do clean up, but it's largely invisible since the actual bad stuff is deleted. I could clamp down harder on thread quality control, but there simply aren't that many new topics created so that would detract from how fresh page 1 is.
I'm also sad that TERA is gone.
Well, I think we need to also understand, that a lot of people just complain because they're forced to read opinions contrary to their own. And then that person henceforth is a "troll" who should be moderated.
I'm all for moderating off-topic, personal attacks and what not. But I see this place as rather civil (at least relative to the Internet in general) although a bit chaotic at times. If people don't like an opinion, they're free to put a poster on ignore.
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Post 8333603 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Disagree with everything you just said, but might want to double check with your high school math teacher.
He used to talk about bitcoin but not so much anymore. He said it's "DOA". I used to fight with him about it, but now I'm beginning to think he was right all along
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Post 8334909 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
And once again, the only winner here is the US government, for offloading all those Silk Road coins on that poor schmuck. I'm sure a lot of bidders from June are thanking their lucky stars right now that their bids were defeated.
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Post 8335094 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
And once again, the only winner here is the US government, for offloading all those Silk Road coins on that poor schmuck. I'm sure a lot of bidders from June are thanking their lucky stars right now that their bids were defeated.
we don't know for how much the coins went...
True, but is was widely speculated that they went for approximate market price or slightly over.
I think ~600,00$ was a pretty reasonable guess.
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Post 8335796 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Derp Derp Now we're only $20 lower than we were 24 hours ago! Bitcoin is going up! Who has the bottle of champagne? Deeeerp
This place cracks me up.
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Post 8336034 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Of course we have volume now compared to the last few weeks; everyone is running for the exits! I don't think that's the type of volume most people here have been waiting for, no matter how the bulls try to twist it...
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Post 8336173 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Derp Derp Now we're only $20 lower than we were 24 hours ago! Bitcoin is going up! Who has the bottle of champagne? Deeeerp
This place cracks me up.
It's time to post rockets.
Next one will go up after we had gone down to 480. It will be the 500 rocket.
As Lance Armstrong might say, "This is one small rise for bitcoin, but one giant downtrend for cryptocurrency."
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Post 8337052 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Shroomy, Fallllllling, could one of you keep an eye on things while I step away from troll duty temporarily for lunch? Thanks.
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Post 8337785 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Volume on Gox is at an All Time Low. SELL.
yes, it's very low right now, but that just means a moon rocket is being fueled!
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Post 8338281 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
I usually trade these wild swings, but i can honestly say i have no fucking idea which way its going. My general rule of thumb is when im confused, stay put and do nothing. Im a spectator for now. If we break 520, think i'll be selling.
Don't fight the tape. That's a hard lesson that I've learned this year playing the bitcoin game. We might have a short burst up, but it will fall again. We're deep in bear territory now and we're not even at the "blood in the streets" phase yet.
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Post 8338433 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
I lol'd. Good one
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Post 8339956 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
All the people worth reading like TERA were driven away by the HODL-tards for giving contrarian views. After all the juvenile attacks against them, why would they come back? All you delusional bulls have each other now.
There have been countless others that have come through here only to be driven off. It doesn't matter if they're bulls or bears, there's absolutely no control here, and after the removal of noobie jail it's just gotten worse. Couple that with a mod who's asleep at the wheel, or a general bull-troll himself and what do you expect?
These forums have absolutely gone to shit since the beginning of 2013.
Start reporting stuff? This particular thread aside (which by the way is moderated by Adam), I do clean up, but it's largely invisible since the actual bad stuff is deleted. I could clamp down harder on thread quality control, but there simply aren't that many new topics created so that would detract from how fresh page 1 is.
I'm also sad that TERA is gone.
You are doing a great job. But maybe you could lobby Theymos into introducing ability to ignore by activity level? Something like "see only legendary and heroes" (yes, I won't be visible too
).
This place is getting more and more cult-ish every day.
We must not expose ourselves to those outside the core community... only the wisdom from the senior members
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Post 8341222 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Call the low for tonight! Looks like China is up and ready for their daily dump... I'll be conservative and say $520ish... but I won't be surprised if we go much lower. Still, I don't think we'll break into $400s until Friday at least.
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Post 8342266 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Come on China, you're letting me down. Bring on the dumps!
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Post 8342346 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
I didn't think we would see this last bear trap before the next bubble.
"before the next bubble"
...
...sorry, no more bubbles in bitcoin. just a slow bleed down back to where we started
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Post 8344157 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Wouldn't a civil war cause BTC prices to go up? Even the appearance of such?
Apparently not, because it's happening right now.
What it all about? Have I miss something?
in the world of bitcoin, a $10 rise following a week long downtrend is called a huge rally, and ghetto rats looting and burning down their own neighborhoods is called a "civil war".
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Post 8344436 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):
Nice dump.
How are those "cheap coins" at 540 doing for you?
we tried to warn them... but what good does it do if our wisdom falls on deaf ears? it's a shame.
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Post 8352017 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
We have a small rally up to $520 and everyone now thinks it's over? There will be a lot of sad people here when we continue down into the $400s later this evening.
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Post 8353360 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
I thought Risto was done pumping his bitcoin investment and is now pumping that Monero altcoin? He's been posting about it a lot, and I can understand why... it's fallen over 50% from its high a few weeks ago. Isn't he saying that it's a "hedge" against bitcoin now?
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Post 8353945 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Stamp still trying to break through $520 on weak volume, China trailing even further behind. It would take a brave (or just foolish) soul to go long in this spot. We haven't even seen blood in the streets yet, but it will happen.
I'm still unsure whether we're going to drop tonight, or if we'll move sideways until the weekend. I would guess $400s will happen sooner rather than later though.
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Post 8354000 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.
So why don't you contribute something then?
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Post 8354250 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
My goodness the drivel on this thread is remarkable. It reminds me why I left.
So why don't you contribute something then?
Did, earlier today. Rather interesting paper on anonymity in the context of Risto switching his affections to Monero. Point was that Monero suffers from unsustainable blockchain bloat and until they fix it, it can't go anywhere. Teleport seems to offer a new approach to anonymity that avoids the problems of ring signatures and mixing. Asked for feedback since privacy is a big deal and the coin that nails it will do well. No one gave any.
I agree, Monero is already dead in the water. I have the feeling that Ristro invested a massive amount of money into it (which probably is the cause of the rally up to $4/coin a couple months ago) and is now doing his best to pump it to others here. He's going to have to cut his loose before long and switch to the next thing.
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Post 8355801 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Back down to $500. Anyone buying up these "cheap coins"?
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Post 8355921 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Back down to $500. Anyone buying up these "cheap coins"?
need to deposit money .__.
I'm waiting for my $200 coins. It might take a few weeks to get there, but we will. 2011 all over again, baby.
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Post 8356589 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
I feel like I've reached a new level of bitcoin awareness. Screw guys like Risto, they don't know what they're talking about. Here's the real deal: We had a slight rebound from ~$500, but once again, it was on low volume. Do we really need to debate what that means?
Unless Warren Buffet decides to invest suddenly, we are going down again. 100% certain.
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Post 8357088 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Sweet... more potential merchant adoption. You know what that means? Price drop imminent!
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Post 8367107 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Don't tell me you guys forgot that Friday is dump day.
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Post 8367232 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Wait didn't Risto call bottom?? What's going on goys!
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Post 8367302 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Selling now is a bit late, but might still be a good idea. Some here need to get over their fixation that we can't drop any lower. We can and we probably will. Just in the time of writing it went down another $10!
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Post 8367484 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Don't tell me you guys forgot that Friday is dump day.
To anyone who still doubts my powers, I called this literally five minutes before the massive dump on bitstamp.
Don't listen to false prophets like Risto. If you don't want to wind up in the soup line this year, listen to guys like me and falllllling.
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Post 8367685 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
People who are thinking of selling, I would like remind that in daily we are very oversold so there's big risk that you end up sell too cheap. This forum is very bearish in times like these and it can make you do irrational decisions that you end up regretting later. If you have fiat, good, this is great buying opportunity and might get even lower but if you don't have fiat, then i suggest that you hold, at least to the next bounce and even then don't sell all of your coins!
Just because we switch to "oversold" territory on some arbitrary time frame of the RSI indicator doesn't magically mean that it's going to swing the other way now. You're right though that there is a lot of irrational, "magical" thinking on this forum, especially at times like this. But it's from the bullish posters, not the other way around.
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Post 8368213 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Bulls' reaction today:
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Post 8368796 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
rpietila's latest gem:
The public is being mind-fucked to BTC pregnancy and we're waiting on the next cohort to give birth so that we can "super-move" north of $10k.
You've got to admit that Risto is a clever guy. He uses his own picture of himself in a suit and tie for his avatar, and utilizes various professional looking mathematical charts to sell people on the idea of bitcoin going super exponential in the near future. He then posts frequently about his castle and bourgeoisie lifestyle of fine wine and cigars to convince people that they too can be ultra rich if they just follow his lead. Occasionally he is right about small, short term movements, but when he's wrong they get quietly erased or swept under the rug.
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Post 8369119 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
rpietila's latest gem:
The public is being mind-fucked to BTC pregnancy and we're waiting on the next cohort to give birth so that we can "super-move" north of $10k.
You've got to admit that Risto is a clever guy. He uses his own picture of himself in a suit and tie for his avatar, and utilizes various professional looking mathematical charts to sell people on the idea of bitcoin going super exponential in the near future. He then posts frequently about his castle and bourgeoisie lifestyle of fine wine and cigars to convince people that they too can be ultra rich if they just follow his lead. Occasionally he is right about small, short term movements, but when he's wrong they get quietly erased or swept under the rug.
Sounds to me that some people here bought at the top, and are pretty eager to blame somebody. Risto hasn't been the only one saying the price of BTC is going through the roof. The Winklvii said ~$50k...hell, even the BoA said the fair value was $1300. Don't blame others because you're a moron and can't make your own decisions. This is the speculation thread, right?
I sold before the crash this week, so I'm not "blaming" anyone, because there is nothing to blame. Let me guess... you're still holding?
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Post 8369365 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Let me guess... you're still holding?
Yep, its got a ways to go before I decide to jump ship. Besides, given my inability to figure what the hell is going to happen, the minute I sell someone will announce an ETF is approved, or Amazon is accepting it, and it will go through the roof. I committed a pretty small amount of fiat that I'm willing to lose.
Honestly, given the market right now, an acceptance by Amazon (unlikely given the promotion of their new mobile payment system this week) or the Twinklevoss ETF approval would only cause a small bump in prices here.
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Post 8369500 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
That guy that bought all of SR's coins must be kicking himself right now... then again, that money he spent was probably his vacation money for the month. but, why aren't all the other guys that put in their bids buying it up? Thats what I thought was going to happen if one of them didn't win any, they would just buy some on the exchanges, well, now is a great time to be buying.. even if they think it will continue to go down, just slow buy on the way down..
Market this month =/= market in June. If you're not having doubts about the future growth potential of bitcoin right now, you're not thinking clearly.
Edit: Also, many of the bidders put in low ball offers, in the hopes of utilizing their large "bank rolls" to buy them up cheaply and offload them soon after for a quick profit.
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Post 8369884 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
if you don't fill your bids today, you'll miss the super exponential move tomorrow
Exponential growth any day now... right, right, we get it.
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Post 8371501 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
call your friends recommend buys, they won't... they never do, and once again they will be like fuck i should have listened.
Great idea.
If they don't outright laugh and hang up the phone and instead actually follow your advice, when the price continues to fall they'll despise you for years to come.
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Post 8375357 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
Low posting traffic here- are most (troll) posters from Europe and now asleep?
poll suggestion: From which major region do you come (e.g. Europe, Northern America, Far east, Australia, South America)
fallllllling is using his paid time off today. I agreed to cover the night shift for him.
So, anyone buying these "cheap" coins?
I'm looking at the charts, and don't look like it!
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Post 8388589 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):
The only people buying are delusional bulls who have convinced themselves and each other that prices are "cheap" right now because we dipped into the $400s and stayed close to $500 without falling further for one whole day.
The fact remains that they're still being used exclusively for speculation and gambling, and the only people using them for commerce are long time holders who are tired of waiting for the mythical bubble and are using them at newegg, dell, and overstock. And FYI, these companies only implemented bitcoin because the evangelists begged them to, not because they see long term potential in it. If they did, they wouldn't be cashing it out with third party processors immediately.
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Post 8409838 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):
I hope price closes below $1, I will take a loan out on my house and cash out my pension to invest all I can!
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Post 8409860 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):
Huobi about to hit new low, what the hell is happening!?!
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Post 8419833 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):
What worries me now is that we're still seeing low volume on these bounces, and LTC STILL continues to fall. I think this is a strong indication of further sell offs for bitcoin. Sub $400 is looking more and more likely.
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Post 8442721 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):
It's feeling a bit top-ish again, isn't it? Looks like our one day reprieve from the freefall might be coming to a close. Just my gut instinct.
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Post 8446805 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):
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Post 8593950 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):
"Currency of the future" being dumped again
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Post 8796468 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
I'm seeing a disturbing trend of many bearish posts and topics being deleted and banned by the moderators here. How do you expect to have an open conversation about bitcoin if people are allowed to write "omg!11eleven!1 bitcoin to $1 million by 2016!!" but if fallllllling or whoever writes that it's going to drop in value, he gets banned?
That's seriously fucked up. Especially since he's been mostly RIGHT for weeks.
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Post 8796626 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
I'm seeing a disturbing trend of many bearish posts and topics being deleted and banned by the moderators here. How do you expect to have an open conversation about bitcoin if people are allowed to write "omg!11eleven!1 bitcoin to $1 million by 2016!!" but if fallllllling or whoever writes that it's going to drop in value, he gets banned?
That's seriously fucked up. Especially since he's been mostly RIGHT for weeks.
who says 1 bitcoin = 1 million in 2 years?
SlipperySlope and Risto have tried to make cases for it with their bullshit trend lines, yet they're still here. Somehow they get a free pass to spam bullish nonsense, but I guess that's because this forum is at heart a practice in mass delusion. Y'all want to believe that you're going to get rich with your digital tokens, so you're willing to tolerate bulltrolls, but not beartrolls.
I don't agree with it, but that's the nature of this community I suppose.
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Post 8824261 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):
I'll be retired by 33.
I save 75-80% of my income currently, have plans to build a house within the next year (eco home made with earthbags, very low cost)
Once I remove my housing costs I will easily save 90%+ of my income.
By 33 I will be financially independent (have enough to never work again) but I will continue working, or i'd get bored.
My plan is to continue til about 40, then Ill have way more money than I need, and I can take up something interesting and expensive like diving without worrying about paying for it.
Do you have a wife and kids? I'm guessing no.
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Post 9146416 (copy this link) (by kireinaha) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):
Why are you people still selling?? Fundamentals have not changed at all! Are the weak hands really shaken that easily? So stupid.
