All posts made by freethink2013 in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 2030097 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):

I'd be thrilled at $300 never mind the k



2. Post 3358338 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):

Quote from: prophetx on October 17, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
There are now four identified examples of this: two major national banks restricting the availability of international wires, and a small state bank and a credit union eliminating them altogether.

https://www.uhcu.org/Site-Alerts/Member-Notification
https://online.1stnb.com/LoginAdv.aspx

huh weird why are some completely stopping intl wires... then this article makes no sense... well it is forbes so...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2013/10/17/no-jpm-isnt-banning-international-wire-transfers-no-limits-on-withdrawals-either/




It's capital control. They haven't said "ok we're increasing the charges to transfer money to europe" they've said "you cannot transfer your money"



3. Post 3358427 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):

cypress was the beta test. next is the bail-in.

How it it we even know the term "bail-in"? That's something those banker scum made up once we bailed them out the first time.

We emboldened them with the bail-out and now they want more.



4. Post 3367534 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.17h):

bitcoin to be the world's new reserve currency  Cool



5. Post 3401416 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):

Last crash I said anything under $100 was a bargain. Now anything under $200 is a bargain.



6. Post 3412232 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

250 by midweek if not before.



7. Post 3412706 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

Quote from: strawbs on October 25, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Any proof those are SR's earnings?

And why in blocks of 324 BTC, seems to be a completely arbitrary number?

324 = fbi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_keypad



8. Post 3417335 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

People seem to forget that the last time we were at 187 people were talking bubble. At worst we'll hit 150 for a while. I doubt it and think we'll hit 200 shortly then 250 then we'll all have a big panic and go back to 207 or something.



9. Post 3423993 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

crashing hard from mid 180's down to 200+ Sad


lol



10. Post 3444448 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on October 30, 2013, 06:58:05 PM
Ahhhh!!  Panic selling!!!   dump dump dump before it's too late!!   

$20 bitcoin by 5pm

Cheesy

tea cup down! I repeat tea cup down!



11. Post 3445552 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

Quote from: Ivanhoe on October 30, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
I was told there would be sub 200 coins Sad

check another exchange
Oh, this isn't the Mt.Gox thread? sorry my bad.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooom! Headshot! Man down!



12. Post 3445695 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.19h):

I think there will be (a) chance(s) to buy sub 200 but imho the next time we're below 200 will probably be the last time we're below 200.



13. Post 3524606 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Even if we have a huge crash this weekend it's still not going to go below the previous ath (266?). That's amazing. imho anything below $300 is a bargain.



14. Post 3524737 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: molecular on November 08, 2013, 10:01:20 PM
Even if we have a huge crash this weekend it's still not going to go below the previous ath (266?).

How do you think you know this?

Obviously I don't KNOW it. I think it.

266 was crazy money a week ago but next week if we crashed to 266 it'll look cheap. Can you imagine you were a new investor back in april at say 230 and you panicked on the way down and got out. You'd be pissed off now and you'd wish you had kept those coins. That sentiment right there is what value/demand is all about. People were thrilled buying in this week at 230.

(just to note i'm talking gox figures)




15. Post 3524747 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: samson on November 08, 2013, 10:02:43 PM
Even if we have a huge crash this weekend it's still not going to go below the previous ath (266?). That's amazing. imho anything below $300 is a bargain.

This is excellent news thanks for reporting it.

Cheesy

no prob :cool:



16. Post 3524866 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: samson on November 08, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
How many people plan on buying more Bitcoin with fresh money next week when the banks open again assuming the price stays above $300 ?

I have a feeeling that this is a time when how much you make all depends on how greedy you are.

The most greedy won't necessarily be the ones who end up with the most.

I think people who are waiting for deposits to go through right now would be thrilled if it hit 266 on monday. There will be demand on the way down. I saw some guy a few pages back thrilled his transfer went through and he bought at something like 230. I almost posted "hold on there's a correction coming" thinking we'd go below 200 then back up again.

There's no doubt we'll have a correction but not a crash (imho)



17. Post 3525183 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on November 08, 2013, 10:53:44 PM
1-2h and China will wake up  Smiley

I think the early birds are already awake. But I guess it's Saturday for them, Chinese banks are probably closed?

Agree... I don't know about the banks.

You can sell btc on KRAKEN for 272€?! I know it is hard to compere but anyway... and there is no problems with withdraws.

78.98
24 Hour Volume

once in a while maybe



18. Post 3525333 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

I can't help but feel that although chinese people love bitcoin that there's also a thing where china would love to destroy the dollar as the world's reserve currency. and this is part of it.



19. Post 3525431 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 08, 2013, 11:13:26 PM
I can't help but feel that although chinese people love bitcoin that there's also a thing where china would love to destroy the dollar as the world's reserve currency. and this is part of it.

Except the Chinese are not buying bitcoin. BtcChina is manipulated by a few money laundering Amurikans who fear FINCEN registered exchanges and realize they can trigger USA rallies by creating the illusion that a foreign country is crazy over bitcoin.  

That's a very interesting theory. So there is no-one in china buying bitcoin, it's just americans pretending to be chinese



20. Post 3535170 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

i think there's a chance we may go under 300 tomorrow. I'd see it as an opportunity to buy.



21. Post 3535295 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.

I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain



22. Post 3535355 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: samson on November 10, 2013, 12:09:46 AM
weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.

I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain

The price has been above $300 for only 3 days, ever. The last three days and you consider it a bargain.

LOL, WTF  Roll Eyes

Is that you rpietila ?

If we crash all the way down to our previous ath of 266 I'll still consider anything under 300 a bargain. I said post april crash that anything under 200 was a bargain. But you're the expert. Lap it it.

Shall we have a bet? gox to go below 300 tomorrow? I don't think it will



23. Post 3535406 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: bitwhizz on November 10, 2013, 12:17:03 AM
i would say 1-100 dollar bitcoin is a bargain, not 300 dollar bitcoin

fantastic, you bought bitcoin years ago for fuck all, fantastic story bro but i'm talking about the real price today. any of your bitcoin you want to sell to me for between 1-100 dollars then pm otherwise stfu



24. Post 3535418 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

seriously guys i like a laugh as much as the next guy but if you are starting to take the piss i'm going to have to take down the matrix completely. i'll put it back up when you've proven you are mature enough to play with it



25. Post 3535471 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

so it's basically just samson and bitwhizz trying to harangue me

personally I've nothing against gay marriage at all and I hope they are very happy. All I'm saying is that selling their bitcoin for "1$-$100" is stupid when they can earn over 300 dollars if they act like real men and have some balls and not be little forum bitches. Oh but that would be going against their nature.



26. Post 3535486 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on November 10, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.

I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain

The price has been above $300 for only 3 days, ever. The last three days and you consider it a bargain.

LOL, WTF  Roll Eyes

Is that you rpietila ?

If we crash all the way down to our previous ath of 266 I'll still consider anything under 300 a bargain. I said post april crash that anything under 200 was a bargain. But you're the expert. Lap it it.

Shall we have a bet? gox to go below 300 tomorrow? I don't think it will

I'll 1-up this. If a single Bitcoin trade on gox even touches its previous all time high $266, any time this entire week, I'll double your bet.

Appreciate it but I doubt the chattering classes will actually put their money where their mouth is



27. Post 3535573 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: TheKoziTwo on November 10, 2013, 12:36:51 AM
weekends are for selling. although it doesn't happen every weekend if btc is high on a friday then a lot of people will sell over the weekend and the price will fall. That's natural.

I think there's a small chance of hitting under 300 at one of the exchanges tomorrow but it won't last long as bitcoin under 300 is a bargain

The price has been above $300 for only 3 days, ever. The last three days and you consider it a bargain.

LOL, WTF  Roll Eyes

Is that you rpietila ?

If we crash all the way down to our previous ath of 266 I'll still consider anything under 300 a bargain. I said post april crash that anything under 200 was a bargain. But you're the expert. Lap it it.

Shall we have a bet? gox to go below 300 tomorrow? I don't think it will

I'll 1-up this. If a single Bitcoin trade on gox even touches its previous all time high $266, any time this entire week, I'll double your bet.

Appreciate it but I doubt the chattering classes will actually put their money where their mouth is
Well samson did put the money where his mouth is at least. He sold everything at $120, then regretted and bought back at a loss somewhere towards 200, then he sold it all again around $200. Now he is all in fiat and not buying back before it crashes below that.

Personally I'd say below $200 is pretty long shot at this point, but this is bitcoin, anything could happen.

Well I was actually hoping that they'd bet me bitcoin that bitcoin would go below 266 on gox in the next 7 days but they made their excuses and left.

I'm no expert and I'm pretty bullish but I'm not just making shit up or trying to pimp some coin that will make you a Master. I'm just posting my opinion. I'd take the bet off either of those two bitches but like the bitches they are they are all talk and no action.



28. Post 3535790 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: pepto on November 10, 2013, 01:16:34 AM
I've made $3,800 in 10 days just by devouring this and a few other super threads morning and night and every available stealable moment.  I've stared mesmerized not infrequently paralyzed at chart movements, volume changes, ask sums, all the neat stuff.  This is the life for me! (OK, a lift from the rum and carrots guy). Oh, and I would have made $7,500 had I done none of the above.

you are very welcome. could you please adopt me, i have no real family?



29. Post 3535876 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

i'd almost like to see a crash to under 300 just to see the huge demand for coins at that price.



30. Post 3535908 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: tarmi on November 10, 2013, 01:38:47 AM
i'd almost like to see a crash to under 300 just to see the huge demand for coins at that price.

no, thats not demand, thats calling the bottom.

are you saying the bottom of a market is unrelated to demand? seriously?

the bottom is defined by demand

(i'm always talking gox figures on this thread unless stated otherwise)



31. Post 3535946 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: CMMPro on November 10, 2013, 01:27:36 AM
actually it is very healthy

That's the feeling I get. We get crazy gains but then they get pegged back to reality. Back in april it was unfettered, now it seems 'fettered' or at least every time it seems like a bubble the market thinks "oh hai we're in a bubble, let's sell"



32. Post 3541786 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Cheesy



33. Post 3542159 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

so gox 322, bitstamp 300+ and china 5 hours from waking up to CHEAP COINS!



34. Post 3542186 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: strawbs on November 10, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
If I wasn't already all in, I would go all in Smiley  Expecting to see demand tomorrow once bank transfers land in exchanges following the weekend.  Btw, did we establish that tomorrow is definitely a bank holiday in USA?  Or just Poland?

deffo a bank holiday in the usa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day



35. Post 3542207 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

boom! china hits 2000 again!



36. Post 3542423 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: Ivanhoe on November 10, 2013, 08:18:24 PM
Thanks guys for all the pics. The lady next to me in the train has a nice impression of me now Grin

could be worse, she could think you have something to do with bitcoin! Imagine the shame of that!



37. Post 3542565 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: the_sunship on November 10, 2013, 08:42:49 PM
what's interesting is the psychological effect of these kinds of numbers. I mean if people get it in their head that bitcoin COULD be worth a million, then 1000 seems pretty realistic (especially now at 300+). And if/when we hit 1000, then the idea of going to 10 thousand seems realistic, and so on, and so on. I mean, if the idea gets seeded and people believe it, it does seem to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You know there's the story of the runner Roger Bannister - who broke the 4 minute mile when everyone said it wasn't possible. Even doctors at the time were saying that the human body could never function at that kind of speed. Within a 46 days of him breaking the record, another person broke it, then another, etc. Today this is not so uncommon (although still amazing). The power of belief can't be underestimated here. The internet, which seems so obvious now, had it's firm disbelievers as well in 1993.



super post



38. Post 3542906 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: Sword Smith on November 10, 2013, 09:23:59 PM

Quote from: Tyler Durden

As Bitcoin Plunges 25% On Government Scrutiny, The First BTC "Fair Value" Reco Has A Stunning Price Target

Let’s use a broad guesstimate. One Bitcoin should theoretically be worth 700 ounces of gold or pretty close to $1,000,000, if we adjust existing supply of both to equal eachother. One BTC is currently worth 0.14 ounces of gold. That gives BTC an upside of 5000 times to equal the current price of gold, supply adjusted. Clearly, I and everyone else believes that Gold may well be much higher than here in the next 5 to 10 years, thus versus the US Dollar the upside for BTC could be multiples of that. Now, before you shake your head, simply go back to the chart of Gold versus the US Dollar and just recognise that it has risen 8750% since the 1920s. And just remember that Microsoft rose 61,000% from its IPO to it’s peak. Considering what we know about the world, I personally believe that Bitcoin may well explode in value as more and more people begin to use it. If you stuck $5,000 into Bitcoins and each Bitcoin did go up to a gold equivalent of let’s say, only 100 ounces of gold (not the potential fair value of 700), then at current prices your Bitcoin stash would be worth $3.3m.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-10/bitcoin-plunges-25-government-scrutiny-first-btc-fair-value-reco-has-stunning-price-



Hold on, guys! Zerohedge have been anti-bitcoin for as long as I can remember. having them onboard is a pretty big deal, right?

No they haven't. There have been people on zerohedge that are anti-bitcoin but I'd say that zerohedge as a platform is very positive on bitcoin.



39. Post 3542976 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

honestly thought I bet gox wouldn't hit 266 again this week but looking back it seems like I said it wouldn't go below 300. Can't believe no-one took that offer up



40. Post 3543016 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

btc-e going to hit 300 tonight by the looks of it (294 currently)

gox:332.5
stamp:314.5

bears: they don't justy shit in the woods they shit themselves everywhere.

where's the $1xx prices we were told about? huh bears?



41. Post 3543056 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ablewasiereisawelba on November 10, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
the real question is: now that the price has survived a correction, does the rally continue this week?

course it does. but hopefully we'll have regular corrections when it get out of hand



42. Post 3543119 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: spooderman on November 10, 2013, 09:58:57 PM
for the record, i said we would hit 400 two days ago. I should be ignored from now on.

I never thought we'd hit 400 this week but we might next week. If we cajn exit next week at 350 then that'll be fantastic



43. Post 3543161 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

looks like the btc-e bears are finally about to accept 300+



44. Post 3543178 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

booom there it is



45. Post 3543240 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

you day trade to either make $ or increase your bitcoin holding.

if you had 10 btc on thursday. you could've sold at 366 then bought at 300 and you end up with 2 extra bitcoins.



46. Post 3543406 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

gox people are ultra-bulls because they are willing to take chances because money is almost impossible to get out of there.

stamp are the middle, bit nervous but basically the real average

btc-e are total bears, kills them to be in triple digits



47. Post 3543581 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: solex on November 10, 2013, 11:02:37 PM
Can anyone explain why anyone would sell on Btc-e for less than they could get on Stamp?  Is it because of trading between LTC and others or something?

This puzzles me too. Who would move coins to btc-e to sell, and who would move fresh fiat to mtgox to buy?
Especially as the price is firmly in 3 digits, the difference in $$$ terms becomes very significant.


i don't think many people move between exchanges. it's such hassle even getting validated by an exchange, i'm guessing people stick with where they are.

you could argue that larger volume = higher prices




48. Post 3543620 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: TheKoziTwo on November 10, 2013, 11:08:16 PM
btc-e is an anonymous exchange, people may be willing to pay for such privilege? They deposit with bitcoin/litecoin, sell, buy back later and withdraw with bitcoin/litecoin and never have to identify themselves.

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. So how do they pay out dollar? Or are you saying they don't require ids for bitcoin payouts?

I'm just glad that there's multiple exchanges doing volume.



49. Post 3543707 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on November 10, 2013, 11:20:58 PM
Few hours and we'll be back where we're yesterday at this time. Next stop 400$  Grin
Bitcoin is stronger than ever! We sow 2 crashes in last 2 months and each time bitcoin recoverd in one day.  

it's 7:20 in beijing and coins are looking cheap!



50. Post 3543778 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

that does explain why is slightly cheaper. gox's price, and this is just a theory, is because people think they can't get out so rather than doing nothing they play thus giving more volatility.

For me, stamp is the closest to the 'real' price.



51. Post 3543859 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 10, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
I thought we might settle back at ~$350 on Gox today, setting up for Monday (in case another bullish week ensues following this).  Plenty of volume now though.  Certainly plenty of capitulation this weekend from those taking down profits..

Am I a wizard?

You guys have got to watch for those dub apps.

I seem to remember some guy saying "anything below $300 is a bargain" - i feel like he almost singlehandedly saved bitcoin



52. Post 3548275 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: accord01 on November 11, 2013, 01:14:20 PM
We all knew it was going to rally again at the start of the week.  Yet we still sold over the weekend, lol.  Never learn...

there's always next sunday.




53. Post 3551216 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: Bitcoinreminder.com on November 11, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
when did the gox problems start?

3 hours ago

closer to 4 (if that matters) - i think this was the start https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg3549050#msg3549050



54. Post 3552501 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

gox is just traders who are stuck there trying to accumulate new coin off noobs who are desperate to get in but are easily panicked



55. Post 3552514 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on November 11, 2013, 09:32:13 PM
Just talked to karpeles via personal cell. He says buy orders are working fine but sells are not. Not exactly sure what the problem is, but has determined this is a new kind of ddos. Should be resolved by end of the month.

Can people withdraw BTC from Gox ? I know BTC withdrawals were not working yesterday.

Karpeles says btc withdrawals are working fine but fiat still non-functional. Will provide official statement re the latter after new midas engine implemented, which is now expected late 2014.

I think people ignoring you are idiots. Absolutely top quality posting.



56. Post 3552541 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

honestly, ignore is for pussies.



57. Post 3552601 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 11, 2013, 09:39:28 PM
is there actually a better alternative than Gox for traders who want to trade in euro? And i'm not talking trading systems like bitcoin.de... Something with a real live trading market like bitstamp or gox. In this case Gox is probably the only choice for those traders. Not everyone wants to be exposed to the exchange rate risk dollar/euro has.

does bitstamp not offer that? I can't see btc-e lasting too long before they are shut down due to accusations of money laundering. I was part of the bitcoin-24 disaster (got my money back) but btc-e seems vulnerable to the same thing.



58. Post 3552799 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on November 11, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
Anyone care to comment what kind of resources might be required to sustain what appears to be (by volume) a nearly 7 hour DDOS against Gox, assuming they are using Akamai (for whatever exact reason they said they were), and Midas (as seems to be the case) is *not* running?

a vivid imagination



59. Post 3552867 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 11, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
is there actually a better alternative than Gox for traders who want to trade in euro? And i'm not talking trading systems like bitcoin.de... Something with a real live trading market like bitstamp or gox. In this case Gox is probably the only choice for those traders. Not everyone wants to be exposed to the exchange rate risk dollar/euro has.

does bitstamp not offer that? I can't see btc-e lasting too long before they are shut down due to accusations of money laundering. I was part of the bitcoin-24 disaster (got my money back) but btc-e seems vulnerable to the same thing.

no way i'm putting any significant money in something like BTC-E. BTC is already volatile enough, no need to add something as risky as the russian authorities to the equasion lol. So Gox is probably the only choice I have until something else comes along.

bitstamp seems legit to me. they insist on ids etc. btc-e is a timebomb.



60. Post 3552923 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

They are all great until they do serious volume and then you find out they were run by amateurs. Bitstamp seems to me like the exchange that anticipated issues rather than were surprised by them.

Crazy that a european exchange doesn't trade in euros though.



61. Post 3552977 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 11, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
Bitstamp doesn't offer euro trading. And I just don't want to be exposed to the dollar/euro exchange rate, which is already very volatile.

I really don't get this - You're exposed to BTC/USD which is far more volatile than any USD/EUR rate over the past few years why trade on euro market which is less volatile than the usd market

No, i'm exposed to BTC/EUR... If i trade in BTC/USD i'll eventually have to switch back to euro if i want to cash out to fiat, which means i'll have the initial capital i invested minus or plus the gains/loss i have from the exchange rate USD/EUR and also any profit/loss i might have had from trading BTC as well. So if i had BTC profit that might as well be offset by a low EUR/USD exchange rate at the time i want to cash out to fiat. Twice the risk which i don't really want.

Honestly, all your trading should be about accumulating more coin



62. Post 3553011 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 11, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
And I don't get why you're saying the euro market is less volatile than the USD market. The euro market follows the USD market so they're both equally volatile. The USD market has the biggest volume so everyone looks at the btc/usd exchange rate and follows that.

more volume means more volatility. not sure that's a universal truth but it's a bitcoin truth.



63. Post 3553097 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

typically we get huge rises then a crash/correction on sunday, then stagnation until thursday then we get mad optimistic on fri/sat then we're back to the sunday slump/correction.



64. Post 3558978 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

my guess: we'll keep on getting close to 400 then back off a few times before bursting through but once we burst $400 (thursday) it'll go crazy but then we'll be back to 350 on sunday.



65. Post 3564856 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: freethink2013 on November 12, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
my guess: we'll keep on getting close to 400 then back off a few times before bursting through but once we burst $400 (thursday) it'll go crazy but then we'll be back to 350 on sunday.

deffo selling thursday/friday, buying back sunday



66. Post 3564882 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 13, 2013, 01:47:56 AM
my guess: we'll keep on getting close to 400 then back off a few times before bursting through but once we burst $400 (thursday) it'll go crazy but then we'll be back to 350 on sunday.

deffo selling thursday/friday, buying back sunday

God, is it really that easy to make money in a free market?

Sell on Friday, buy back Sunday..  lol!

damn i meant to only think that, not say it aloud. now everyone will want to do it



67. Post 3564886 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: barbs on November 13, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
What the hell just happened to bitstamp ??

I posted some shit about selling on friday and the markets went craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy



68. Post 3564904 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 13, 2013, 01:52:38 AM

damn i meant to only think that, not say it aloud. now everyone will want to do it

Now look what you did.  You crashed Stamp.

mission accomplished! that was just a test run :cool:



69. Post 3564961 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: ag@th0s on November 13, 2013, 01:55:56 AM
What the hell just happened to bitstamp ??

It dropped $10 when it was supposed to be going to the MOTHERFUCKIN MOON.

I'm not sure I want to play here anymore Sad

It's going to be all jitters for the rest of the week. 350 is what stamp is psychologically comfortable with. It'll follow gox on thurs/friday to new highs then the uncertainty will return at the week end. Highs:- Bitstamp: 41x gox:45x

before 'crashing to 350.




70. Post 3569271 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Honestly, even I expected it to be thurs by the time we broke 400. Looking forward to the "Huge bitcoin crash (confirmed)" threads when we slump all the way back to 4xx on sunday.



71. Post 3569308 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on November 13, 2013, 02:22:17 PM





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Wow, where is that starwars money from?

A galaxy far, far away



72. Post 3573383 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Cablez on November 13, 2013, 09:12:35 PM
266........fuck 266.

Bargain.

I feel sorry for the guy who bought loads at 265 then panicked and sold them all the moment the 'crash' began.



73. Post 3574118 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on November 13, 2013, 10:26:34 PM
can somebady destroy that 400$ wall on stamp?? c'om on stamp!!

Amazing the psychology at play. It's the same at btc-e. in people's minds, 400 is more than $5 above 395



74. Post 3574268 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: mccorvic on November 13, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
So Stamp looks like its hung up at 398-399...time to sell my 1.5BTC and call it a day?

Only if you want to know what regret feels like.

exactly, stamp will eventually break the psychological barrier of 400 then rocket up before correcting on sunday



75. Post 3574329 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: worldlybedouin on November 13, 2013, 10:48:11 PM
So Stamp looks like its hung up at 398-399...time to sell my 1.5BTC and call it a day?

Only if you want to know what regret feels like.

exactly, stamp will eventually break the psychological barrier of 400 then rocket up before correcting on sunday

In general I'm fairly bullish...I know BTC has a long way to go and will be worth truckloads...but when Stamp gets hung up like this I feel like if I don't do something i'm going to "lose out" on the gains I've made so far.  

But then to keep it in perspective it's only 1.5BTC...but its my precious, hard earned BTC...so i'm torn.

why not sell .25(or less) when you see it starting to tank and then use that money to buy more. It's going to correct but it's not going to collapse and ultimately if you can afford it your best bet is just to hold on.



76. Post 3574554 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Syke on November 13, 2013, 11:13:39 PM
price crashing now because of this news ?

Time to grab some cheap $420 coins before China wakes up.

lol



77. Post 3574568 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: wobber on November 13, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
Huge gap between bid and asks on Gox! price is 416 then is 425!
Quote from: wobber on November 13, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
Huge gap between bid and asks on Gox! price is 416 then is 425!

lag



78. Post 3574621 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

woohoo a correction!



79. Post 3574686 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

there's no correcting this shit. we were below 420 for about a second.



80. Post 3575039 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: samson on November 14, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
It worries me the talk of an impending crash is waning.

Don't worry - the higher it goes the faster and harder it will fall.

I don't care what the uber bulls think - this happened before and it will happen again, it's only a matter of when.

change the record. you attacked me when i said anything below 300 was a bargain just days ago. We're never going to hit 266 or 300 again. Get over it. A 'crash' now would be 350-380



81. Post 3575047 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 14, 2013, 12:09:59 AM
It worries me the talk of an impending crash is waning.

Don't worry - the higher it goes the faster and harder it will fall.

I don't care what the uber bulls think - this happened before and it will happen again, it's only a matter of when.

Yup.  Going to suck balls when it crashes from $4k to $600 for a few seconds, and then back to $1.2k.

Very scary stuff.

Cheesy



82. Post 3575164 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: MAbtc
A crash would now be a 15% drop in price? Really? Am I missing something here? You may want to let more than "just days" pass before you get too sure of yourself.

If you want to take the 266 bet then let's do it. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.

What I think you may have missed is I wrote 'crash' not just crash. so specifically these things: ' '



83. Post 3575219 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

#bulltalk oh this is terrible and will only make the inevitable crash to $15 worse



84. Post 3575361 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 14, 2013, 12:34:12 AM
#bulltalk oh this is terrible and will only make the inevitable crash to $15 worse

$15?  LMAO

I fcking hope so.  I'll max my credit cards out.

$15 dollars if we're lucky.

I get criticized for saying exactly what'll happen yet these clowns who predict every single fucking day that we'll be down to nothing criticize me.

me on sunday:
Quote
I never thought we'd hit 400 this week but we might next week. If we cajn exit next week at 350 then that'll be fantastic

November 13, 2013, 02:02:30 AM
Quote
It's going to be all jitters for the rest of the week. 350 is what stamp is psychologically comfortable with. It'll follow gox on thurs/friday to new highs then the uncertainty will return at the week end. Highs:- Bitstamp: 41x gox:45x

before 'crashing to 350.


No but just spamming the forum talking about crashes makes you an expert despite being right once. A stopped clock is right TWICE a day. Bears aren't close to that record.



85. Post 3584584 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

So JP Morgan (who got off cheaply with a $5bn fine for falsely selling junk and causing the greatest economic collapse in our lives) are going to ring someone and we're going to take them seriously? It's pretty much their fault that bitcoin is popular and the dollar is fucked.

A big reason people get into bitcoin is because they no longer trust banks. Look at cyrus.



86. Post 3584688 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

modest rise to beat previous ath then uncertainty and a drop as we end the weekend



87. Post 3584903 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 14, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad

Tuesday, November 19, 2013
03:30 PM - 05:30 AM

Is that a typo or what? Or do they actually hold hearings through the night until 5:30 in the morning?

It was supposed to stop at 9pm but they got a bit carried away with the silk road exhibits.



88. Post 3585268 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Coinseeker on November 14, 2013, 10:31:12 PM

The word "fiat" means a decree or a dictate thus indicating a central authority. This does obviously not apply to Bitcoin or bitcoins and we should thus, in my opinion, avoid linking the word "fiat" with bitcoins.



No, I will not avoid "linking" the word fiat with Bitcoin because that is what Bitcoin or any other currency that has no intrinsic value is. Fiat.  You may not like that and even choose only the definitions that support your position, but it is what it is.  Fiat.

Think I mentioned tally sticks in an earlier thread. bitcoin is an advanced version of that concept. iou's 2.0

nothing wrong with fiat per se. i dare say that even fractional reserve banking isn't the devil it made out to be. It provided capital to business where there was none. the issue has been our economy became dependant on junk futures.



89. Post 3585430 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Sword Smith on November 14, 2013, 10:57:54 PM

The word "fiat" means a decree or a dictate thus indicating a central authority. This does obviously not apply to Bitcoin or bitcoins and we should thus, in my opinion, avoid linking the word "fiat" with bitcoins.

No, I will not avoid "linking" the word fiat with Bitcoin because that is what Bitcoin or any other currency that has no intrinsic value is. Fiat.  You may not like that and even choose only the definitions that support your position, but it is what it is.  Fiat.
I am not picking definitions at will. Fiat means decree thus indicating central authority. I tried to be polite but:
http://goo.gl/fQX918

And he is using the definition from wikipedia's "Fiat Money" page.  I'm not saying I agree with him, but he already linked to his definition, so linking to a conflicting definition won't get you anywhere.
That is true. And this is also why I warned against semantic discussions btw. But when you seek to define words, one should always look at their etymology (origin) and not different uses since many words can be used for conflicting meanings. Take the word "liberal". In europe it means "seeker of freedom" = libertarian or classical liberal like John Locke. In the US "liberal" means social liberal who are inspired by Rousseau or even the social democratic movement with emphasis on the so-called positive freedoms (as defined by Isaiah Berlin). Many words can mean anything you please if you do not go to their root. Then their meaning usually becomes unambigues. Like "fiat."

Great point



90. Post 3585534 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Wekkel on November 14, 2013, 11:08:53 PM
No one gets on my ignore list.

ignore is for pussies (and i don't mean that in a sexist way)



91. Post 3595226 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Let's call the weekend low. My guess 382

gox price btw




92. Post 3595333 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Was just about to start a thread with a prize for picking the low but then I realised we can go back and edit posts and no "edited at xx:xx dd/mm/yyyy" gets added to the post. That's a pity.



93. Post 3595916 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Vycid on November 15, 2013, 09:40:18 PM
Was just about to start a thread with a prize for picking the low but then I realised we can go back and edit posts and no "edited at xx:xx dd/mm/yyyy" gets added to the post. That's a pity.

Um, yeah it does. If you wait more than 10min to edit then your datestamp gets a little underline. If you hover your cursor over it, the last date of edit pops up.

I'll illustrate this in 11 minutes or so.  Smiley

I do a thread then once we clear this up. You'll have to explain this to me exactly though so I can avoid cheats.

Basically what I was going to do is this:

Thread title: Guess the low 16-17th november

rules:
1. low time period refers to 16th 00:00:01 to 17th 23:59:59 and the lowest price at gox in that period.
2. Only one entry per person and no edits to your post except within the forum defined 10 minutes
3. In the case of two identical predictions the first posted will be accepted.
4. Predictions after 17th 06:00:00 are invalid.
5. All times are gmt.
6. Predictions to have 4 decimal places
7. In the case of two predictions one higher, one lower but equidistant from the low the lower will be the winner.

Any other gotchas I've left out? Any changes? I'm only gonna put .1 on the line but it's better that a kick in the hole.




94. Post 3595939 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Vycid on November 15, 2013, 09:40:18 PM
Was just about to start a thread with a prize for picking the low but then I realised we can go back and edit posts and no "edited at xx:xx dd/mm/yyyy" gets added to the post. That's a pity.

Um, yeah it does. If you wait more than 10min to edit then your datestamp gets a little underline. If you hover your cursor over it, the last date of edit pops up.

I'll illustrate this in 11 minutes or so.  Smiley

Edit, November 15, 2013, ~09:51:05 PM

I see the hover thing pretty it isn't more obvious. Have a check through what I posted above and tell me what you think.



95. Post 3596083 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

I feel like this is my fault

Any way: Guess the weekend low with .1bitcoin prize thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334845.0



96. Post 3596093 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on November 15, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
My guess is that it won't go lower than $420 Wink

413 and dropping  Smiley

My guess is that it won't go lower than $90. Wink

ha, good guess.



but really these corrections are good. even if we retest 265$ BTC dont give a fuck Smiley

Exactly. I'm totally bullish but corrections are a lovely natural thing.



97. Post 3596259 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Wow climbing sharply all week then slumping at the weekend...this is unheard of!




98. Post 3596591 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: TERA on November 15, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
This is different from the normal dip/retracement. Sellers are actually running a demolition on the large walls rather than just retracing over low bid depth. Also, over 900,000 coins were transferred today.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

(apologies to any frenchies if i wrote that wrong)



99. Post 3596758 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 15, 2013, 11:22:05 PM
I swear people are afraid of corrections, someone is going to always want to take a profit here and there.

If you believe its undervalued there's no point in worrying our pretty little heads. If not feel free to surf the market

That being said it almost seems silly not to sell on CaVirtEx ( but I'm not gonna ) while there are still 420 buy orders up... cause gox is at 427 and stamp at 403 lol

most big dawgs love a correction. we see it as a natural thing. evolution rather than this idea that bitcoin is either worthless or should be a billion each.



100. Post 3596873 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: San1ty on November 15, 2013, 11:35:04 PM
Oh no someone let the silly bears out of their cage. Who's going to clean this mess up?

They've been right once even yet they never shut up. What's worse is they go around like they own the place. As I said earlier in this thread a stopped clock is right once a day. A bear is right once in a blue moon.



101. Post 3616152 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: wilfried on November 17, 2013, 09:29:12 PM
how is it possible that a chinese exchange sucks up all the bitcoin market?

did the exchange-guys first register with gox, stamp and all the other exchanges to arbitrage to the chinese exchange?
and how could they know it would be such a tremendous success?Huh

Kind of unrelated but do you know who's buying up all the best vintage french red wines....

China.

How China Became the Wine World’s Most Unlikely Superpower

Read more: China Grows as a Wine Superpower | TIME.com http://business.time.com/2013/10/31/how-china-became-the-wine-worlds-most-unlikely-superpower/#ixzz2kwP4YaY2



102. Post 3627927 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

FinCEN being very reasonable imo.



103. Post 3628033 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

buy, buy, buy!



104. Post 3628339 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

"We're all doing a great job. Well done everyone. Give us more money"

It could've only gone better if the secret service guy asked to be paid in bitcoin



105. Post 3628418 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

wow!



106. Post 3628472 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: wildbud on November 18, 2013, 08:54:50 PM
DHS just commented and said that cyber criminals that they have been investigating haven't directly gravitated towards bitcoin and prefer a more centralized currency

Yep. I was blown away by that.



107. Post 3628537 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

"tax" sell! sell! sell!



108. Post 3628603 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

I know that tax is an obvious step
Quote from: NamelessOne on November 18, 2013, 09:04:13 PM
"tax" sell! sell! sell!

Tax is expected ... Nothing news.

+1 Exactly.

I'm not selling. It being talked about as taxable is a good sign imho.



109. Post 3628638 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

I hate the use of "actors" like that. Google does the same. Trolls are called "bad actors"



110. Post 3628918 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

I don't watch many senate hearings but I when I do I expect to be vastly richer afterwards.



111. Post 3628962 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Nemesis on November 18, 2013, 09:27:12 PM
Hearing is OVER?!!!

NOOO. I want them to say.... BUY BITCOIN NOW!


It's halftime. And everyone is chatting amongst themselves saying "So how can I actually buy some bitcoin"



112. Post 3628976 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

oh oh back under 700 shortly



113. Post 3628988 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

come on a guy with a stuck on beard? ffs



114. Post 3629048 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: chrsjrcj on November 18, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
This is so detrimental to my work ethic Cheesy

I have a paper to write in an hour....no way that's getting done in time!

for what? College? Simply BUY the college.



115. Post 3629154 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: bitboyben on November 18, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
Hot Asian girl yeah...
Oh and Pat

she is lovely

has he bought that beard on the dark web?



116. Post 3629256 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

He's done very well. Great statement and cute babe in the background.



117. Post 3629464 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

jerry brito saying some great stuff



118. Post 3629566 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Thought the child pron guy was cool. Reasonable.

We'll hear a lot worse from 'journalists' in the coming days



119. Post 3629609 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Have they even mentioned gambling yet?



120. Post 3629753 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

this guy is so positive!



121. Post 3629763 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: wildbud on November 18, 2013, 10:16:09 PM
Ernie Allen is honestly really helping our cause. I am very surprised but very happy to see how he is well educated and reasonable in this situation.

+1



122. Post 3629823 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: micalith on November 18, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
Ernie Allen is honestly really helping our cause. I am very surprised but very happy to see how he is well educated and reasonable in this situation.
+1

And what's the problem with that sneering guy behind him!?

looks like an obvious pedophile. they love sneering



123. Post 3630552 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Vycid on November 18, 2013, 11:01:33 PM

Can we not do this? Seriously guys, on one hand we bitch about how all Bitcoiners are male and then we objectify the women that ARE engaged with Bitcoin on the other.

Yep finding a woman attractive is racist and sexist. Seriously what are you on. Do you think woman don't think [insert name of hollywood star] is a sex object.

I actually think what you are saying is more sexist that people saying "oh wow there's an attractive woman"




124. Post 3630612 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

I'm going to buy a load of egold and liberty dollars on the darkweb then hire an assassin and buy some ricin for personal use



125. Post 3630632 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Vycid on November 18, 2013, 11:07:21 PM

Can we not do this? Seriously guys, on one hand we bitch about how all Bitcoiners are male and then we objectify the women that ARE engaged with Bitcoin on the other.

Yep finding a woman attractive is racist and sexist. Seriously what are you on. Do you think woman don't think [insert name of hollywood star] is a sex object.

I actually think what you are saying is more sexist that people saying "oh wow there's an attractive woman"



The statement wasn't "she's hot". That's cool.

It was "who fapped to her?".

No-one bukkakked her on the senate floor. Get over it. It's nothing.



126. Post 3630960 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: xuemike on November 18, 2013, 11:27:29 PM
People are buying with impunity after that hearing. this is ridiculous.

unless the secret service guy had demanded to be paid in bitcoin it couldn't have gone any better.

even the childporn guy was pro-bitcoin.



127. Post 3631207 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

I'm going to say anything below $500 is cheap coins. That's what people tomorrow will be thinking.

What I'd guess will happen is we'll zoom towards $1000, have some friction before that then burst up to $1250-1500 before settling above $1000




128. Post 3631228 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on November 18, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
I know, it can disappear in a blip. If the april crash is any indication, I won't give a shit until 1-2 weeks after the crash.  Then I hit myself on the head repeatedly for not selling  Smiley .

The only time I have ever been mad at myself was for selling (nicely above market prices). Not profiting from volatility doesn't phase me, but ending up with less Bitcoins does.

Market sentiment right there.

How many of us would see a crash to below 300 as a disaster and how many of us would feel like it's cheap coins?



129. Post 3643236 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

A bankster moaning about money laundering. Talk about letting the fox guarding the henhouse



130. Post 3643313 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: bitboyben on November 19, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
A bankster moaning about money laundering. Talk about letting the fox guarding the henhouse
As we discovered yesterday banks can be bought off. I wonder if that will come up again today.

Yesterday? Look at hsbc

"HSBC was accused of failing to monitor more than $670 billion in wire transfers and more than $9.4 billion in purchases of U.S. currency from HSBC Mexico, allowing for money laundering, prosecutors said. The bank also violated U.S. economic sanctions against Iran, Libya, Sudan, Burma and Cuba, according to a criminal information filed in the case."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-drug-money-laundering-accord.html

fine: $1.9B

They just don't like anyone else having a cut of their cake.



131. Post 3643330 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

She's totally my #1 lesbian. Take that Maddow!



132. Post 3643361 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Boom! He's worried that bitcoin will become the reserve currency!

Quick mention terrorists!



133. Post 3643394 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

I've totally bought loads of nukes from iran already. Free ricin with every order.



134. Post 3643417 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

cool chargebacks Roll Eyes



135. Post 3643610 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

capital gains on whatever you cash out, sales tax (if applicable) on spend

it's not complicated



136. Post 3643733 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: tomjo7 on November 19, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
On another note, has anyone seen this link? http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-assassination-market-anarchist-983/

he's either 13 or a fed

or BOTH!



137. Post 3643739 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

be interesting to hear bitpay talk about 'risk'



138. Post 3643776 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: molecular on November 19, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
we're also discussing on

#bitcoin-hearing

might be a better format than here


sounds a bit dark webby to me.



139. Post 3643887 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: Rampion on November 19, 2013, 09:38:20 PM
the red lady is failing hard.

disagree. She's doing pretty well.



140. Post 3643914 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

don't like the way she dissed FinCen Jen



141. Post 3643984 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

I'm thinking about getting into these credit card things, apparently that's where the big crime money is



142. Post 3644056 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Honestly bitpay are fantastic. Some zealots moan about them but for the spread of bitcoin they are a fantastic leader.



143. Post 3644062 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Boom America is not a leader!



144. Post 3644120 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

america's financial 'security' HuhHuh

i.e. too big to fail?



145. Post 3644131 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

mercedes used to dj in sl

to 3 people at an ath



146. Post 3644157 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

associating it with sl, new lows! sell!



147. Post 3644304 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

How was she involved? She once had sex with everyone in secondlife?



148. Post 3645299 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

650 is great value.

good night



149. Post 3656927 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

even with all the bulls out celebrating since day one of the senate hearingsand the bears crying about the end of bitcoin we're still back up over $600



150. Post 3757911 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: ZoSo15 on November 28, 2013, 09:38:17 PM
You guys are drunk aren't you?

I'll crack a beer but I need to load up on turkey before I join you.

every day is a celebration



151. Post 3758363 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

There will be far more woman on here than you think. Most won't admit it though and for good reason.



152. Post 3758409 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: niothor on November 28, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
http://www.birminghamescorts.co.uk/bitcoinescorts.html
Bitcoin escorts for parties hahahahaha

Why did you do that?
I don't smoke , I drink occasionally so I was happy there were no escorts accepting bitcoins , so my stash was secure.... and now... Roll Eyes

1 Hour      1.40 BTC




153. Post 3758659 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: micalith on November 28, 2013, 10:43:45 PM

Sausage fest isn't it?

* Hawker wanders off to ponder why he is single.

no matter mate, At least bitcoiners have a sense of humour!



All the ladies love a starfleet commander



154. Post 3771566 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

The only worry I have is we're a market rather than an economy. We need to make 2014 the year when bitcoin destroys western union and is much more widely accepted for buying stuff. Remittance is the killer app.



155. Post 3771741 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: philip2000uk on November 29, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
The only worry I have is we're a market rather than an economy. We need to make 2014 the year when bitcoin destroys western union and is much more widely accepted for buying stuff. Remittance is the killer app.
What if Western union installed Bitcoin ATM's in every shop?

That would be like sticking a plaster on burst dam.

Interesting article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-28/bitcoin-service-targets-kenya-remittances-with-cut-rate-fees-1-.html

tldr: kenyans send 1.2 billion dollars home per annum. mostly through wu

Quote
Western Union and MoneyGram International Inc. deduct $10 to $17 to wire $200 to Kenya from the U.S., including charges to exchange funds, in a process that can take an hour to five days, according to the World Bank’s Send Money Africa price database. BitPesa will charge 3 percent on overseas transfers and says the money arrives the same day. At that rate, it would cost $6 to send $200 via BitPesa.



156. Post 3771855 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Interesting thing about africa is they never had landlines widely available. They went straight to mobiles. Similarly most people don't have bank accounts so they may go straight to bitcoin.

I'd fucking love it if bitcoin allowed africa to climb out of the pit the usa/euro has put them in but I won't be buying any blood diamonds nonetheless.



157. Post 3771925 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: solex on November 29, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
The only worry I have is we're a market rather than an economy. We need to make 2014 the year when bitcoin destroys western union and is much more widely accepted for buying stuff. Remittance is the killer app.
What if Western union installed Bitcoin ATM's in every shop?

Fully agree. They need to do something quickly or they will be in major trouble because Bitcoin overlaps their core business model.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321719.0

They need to do something or they will soon be altavista



158. Post 3772173 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 29, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
Due for a correction soon?



I liked it when it was a bit more linear looking..

yep we'll probably correct to about 2k then 999 and then 3k on monday



159. Post 3772246 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: kurious on November 29, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
Confession - I went a little bit into fiat at 1215, so I am hoping for a bit of a correction.

Hey - it's no fees weekend, am I forgiven?

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.



160. Post 3786132 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

I'm just going to put this out there...Anything below 5k is a bargain.



161. Post 3786215 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on November 30, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
I'm just going to put this out there...Anything below 5k is a bargain.

Thanks for your random number Smiley

It's not a random number. People are emotionally and psychologically invested in numbers. 100, 200, 250, 500, 750, 1000, 1500,2000 etc....5k

If you follow the charts everytime we approach or go past one of these numbers we waiver, Last big crash was at 266. Really it was about 250.

I was the guy saying anything under 300 is a bargain a couple(?) of weeks ago.



162. Post 3798830 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Amazing how blase I've become. Back in the day I'd now have no coins and a load of fiat stuck in an exchange and be cursing my luck.



163. Post 3798886 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

market sentiment is "anything under $1000 is a bargain."



164. Post 3799082 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: dwdoc on December 02, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
Inverse head & shoulders on the 1H chart.

Isn't that a cup and handle?

slithering snake imho



165. Post 3799124 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

we should call these incorrections tbh



166. Post 3854786 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

you know something is wrong when btc-e are the highest of the 3.



167. Post 3854862 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: mmitech on December 06, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
guys this is really fishy... I see massive buys on other exchanges!!! do you think this was all played ? create some panic people start selling and some big hands eats the weak hands ?

we were always going to take a hit on the exaggerated china news. I said on monday that the market sentiment was "anything under 1000 is a bargain" but that was before china crisis so 850 is cheap now. We'll see at the weekend though.



168. Post 3854979 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

China makes us westerners look like awful pussies. I, for one, welcome our new commie overlords.



169. Post 3855016 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Rampion on December 06, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
Bitcoin is such a wonderful thing.

If it goes up, it makes you happy because you see your wealth growing by the minute.

If it goes down, it makes you happy because you can buy more of it.

Probably the best thing in the world Wink

True. I get great entertainment watching the charts. Maybe that's another intrinsic value.



170. Post 3855241 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

I've a feeling this is the weekend low (or close) and we'll consolidate rather than crashing lower. I didn't get my btc in in time to sell above 1000 then buy back but if I had I'd be buying back now.

I suppose we could go even lower but I'm guessing 750-900 range this weekend



171. Post 3855469 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

btc-e at 882. They are normally the lowest by far



172. Post 3855525 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 06, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
btc-e at 882. They are normally the lowest by far

vitrex is bouncing as well.

is GOX still GOXXING itself?

btc-e @ 910 - that means gox should really be hitting 1000



173. Post 3855552 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

I think a lot of btc is leaving gox for pastures new



174. Post 3855667 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

seems like everyone but china is panicking about the news out of china



175. Post 3855744 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on December 06, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
seems like everyone but china is panicking about the news out of china

Isn't it night time there right now?
Quote from: crazy_rabbit on December 06, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
seems like everyone but china is panicking about the news out of china

Isn't it night time there right now?

almost 5am yep. They seemed to drop then consolidate before bedtime though. They are the only exchange over 900



176. Post 3855766 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: johnblaze on December 06, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
another day another dead bear, this is wonderfull

dead bear?

the market is down $100 from the last day

down from a previous ath. this is just a correction and probably wouldn't even have happened if it wasn't for china.

What was the price two weeks ago? 850 is cheap coins despite all the 'bad' news



177. Post 3855795 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on December 06, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
another day another dead bear, this is wonderfull

The day is still young, foolish bull.

In this case, I agree. I've put 25% of my BTC in FIAT and placed my bids accordingly, and I'm in the "buy and hold" camp. It looks (I might be wrong) like a surefire opportunity for profit. This will not be an optimistic weekend.

I tried to do the same but I was too late. Deffo an opportunity to get more coin this w/e



178. Post 3856014 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: John999 on December 06, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
"Don't panic the price will rise and fall"

Ultimately we're breaking through the wall!

The sky's the limit!

So I guess we still are in the denial stage of a bubble pop..

what bubble?



179. Post 3856115 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: seanneko on December 06, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Massive dump incoming, price is stabilizing and no buyers...

If I had money ready to go I'd be buying at this price.

For me that's the market sentiment. 850 seems to be the point it's "cheap coins!" rather than "the end is nigh"



180. Post 3856135 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Mt.Gox: 907 Bitstamp: 862 BTC-e: 884 BTCChina: 907.23/5532



181. Post 3856165 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

I think even the most bullish of us felt 1242 was too high too soon. Corrections are a good thing.



182. Post 3856253 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

so 850 is the new floor imo.

We saw total panic tonight and yet once we approached 850 buyers started perking up.



183. Post 3856315 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 06, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
so 850 is the new floor imo.

We saw total panic tonight and yet once we approached 850 buyers started perking up.

LOL approached 850?

Don't you mean after we got spat out of a gox failsafe loop for an hour which blocked any trading below $829? It's worth noting ever other exchange sat frozen for half an hour waiting for gox to take the lead again before making any moves back up.

Sorry I'm talking about reality not your fantasy world where you buy all the coins for 10c and are crowned emperor of the universe.



184. Post 3856500 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: rpietila on December 06, 2013, 09:40:14 PM
so 850 is the new floor imo.

We saw total panic tonight and yet once we approached 850 buyers started perking up.

LOL approached 850?

Don't you mean after we got spat out of a gox failsafe loop for an hour which blocked any trading below $829? It's worth noting ever other exchange sat frozen for half an hour waiting for gox to take the lead again before making any moves back up.

poeple were trading........

It completely killed the momentum of the dip, who knows where gox would have stopped, it was certainly headed for 700.

but the deeper it falls the harder its bounces back.

stop thinking of what could have been.

How many times does Bitstamp need to bounce from 0.800 before people realize it's the new floor?  Roll Eyes Every bounce (3 so far) adds to the strength of the support, and it is already in the Titanium level, comparable to molecular's left nut.

Buying at 0.800 is better EV than buying at 1.000. From 1 it can go either way, but from 0.800 it always goes up, and the 10% probability not included in "always" is only that it will dip to 0.6 for a few hours. Nothing to be scared of.



What's funny is bears WANT bitcoin and that desire is what keeps the price up above what they are willing to pay.



185. Post 3856521 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

It's still a great way for remittance back to china



186. Post 3856680 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Honestly, I don't think china has been obliterated at all. It was unregulated and unfettered until now and now it's both regulated and fettered. Chinese people are still able to gamble on an investment and cash out and that's all they were doing up until now not spending btc in shops so effectively not much has changed apart from they have to show ids. It's a bit like silk road closing but it's certainly not the end of the world.

Chinese people working abroad can still send money home and the recipients can still exchange that money for cash.



187. Post 3856790 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 06, 2013, 10:03:09 PM
A chart I posted on one of Risto's threads the other day.

Uploaded by Drew at tradingview 4 Days ago. As a short term bear his comments on the situation made excellent sense to me.



The same chart with the current trading data filled in over time.


let me guess, you have buy orders in at 700.

pathetic



188. Post 3856817 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Miz4r on December 06, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
If Bitcoin can sustain these prices without China, I'd be very surprised.  I have a feeling it's going to be a long and nasty weekend.

Bitcoin is not "without China".

Bitcoin is without Chinese banks.

Understand?

Bitcoin is without Chinese banks and Chinese merchants.

Understand?

Ah yes, those Chinese merchants were really driving the Bitcoin economy.

Sarcasm, understand?

Nothing is driving this but speculation.  I've known that since day one.  But the future expectation of what China could bring to the table, just got obliterated.  No banks, no merchants...simply reduced to trading it online.  I'm sure this is all very bullish news though.   Roll Eyes  

That's not necessarily true, China could change their stance at any time they want when they see other countries making excellent progress with bitcoin adoption and they start to feel like getting left behind.

Yep I think they probably will but decided to put the brakes on things. I'm pretty bullish but even I thought we were getting a bit carried away



189. Post 3857010 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 06, 2013, 10:19:31 PM
A chart I posted on one of Risto's threads the other day.

Uploaded by Drew at tradingview 4 Days ago. As a short term bear his comments on the situation made excellent sense to me.



The same chart with the current trading data filled in over time.


let me guess, you have buy orders in at 700.

pathetic

So a guy makes a trading chart with some pretty spot on predictions, backed up by some sound market analysis, I follow that and I'm pathetic?

Lets see what you were saying only 7 days ago:

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

Yeah I should have listened to you obviously.

Pathetic?...lol

Posted that on monday before china crisis. If that hadn't happened we'd be at 1300 or something. In this case the person I was talking to was 'lucky'. We'll be back in 4 digits if not this weekend then early next week and you still won't have any coin.



190. Post 3857160 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: seriouscoin on December 06, 2013, 10:28:46 PM
A chart I posted on one of Risto's threads the other day.

Uploaded by Drew at tradingview 4 Days ago. As a short term bear his comments on the situation made excellent sense to me.



The same chart with the current trading data filled in over time.


let me guess, you have buy orders in at 700.

pathetic

So a guy makes a trading chart with some pretty spot on predictions, backed up by some sound market analysis, I follow that and I'm pathetic?

Lets see what you were saying only 7 days ago:

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

Yeah I should have listened to you obviously.

Pathetic?...lol

Posted that on monday before china crisis. If that hadn't happened we'd be at 1300 or something. In this case the person I was talking to was 'lucky'. We'll be back in 4 digits if not this weekend then early next week and you still won't have any coin.

Its always amusing so see some TA trolls (who claim to be a pro... with TA bs) posting some charts of the past to predict the future.

Funny i dont see any of them making a bank.


They don't seem to get the market is made up of humans or that real external events affect the market. To them people have no free will and external factors in the real world are irrelevant - all that matters are patterns. Ok there is some ta that actually happens i.e. a dead cat bounce is a real thing but that ta is based on human nature whereas all their ta is based on patterns. Him slagging me off for saying we'd be lucky to see triple digits is like saying to someone they were an idiot for not foreseeing 911 and the stockmarket crashing. I can't predict those events and neither can his stupid charts. All we can do is gauge market sentiment at a given time. It's these ta geniuses who think they can draw a few lines and world events won't affect them.



191. Post 3857195 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

If we come out of the weekend over 850 I'll be happy enough.



192. Post 3857264 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 06, 2013, 10:44:59 PM
A chart I posted on one of Risto's threads the other day.

Uploaded by Drew at tradingview 4 Days ago. As a short term bear his comments on the situation made excellent sense to me.



The same chart with the current trading data filled in over time.


let me guess, you have buy orders in at 700.

pathetic

So a guy makes a trading chart with some pretty spot on predictions, backed up by some sound market analysis, I follow that and I'm pathetic?

Lets see what you were saying only 7 days ago:

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

Yeah I should have listened to you obviously.

Pathetic?...lol

Posted that on monday before china crisis. If that hadn't happened we'd be at 1300 or something. In this case the person I was talking to was 'lucky'. We'll be back in 4 digits if not this weekend then early next week and you still won't have any coin.

Its always amusing so see some TA trolls (who claim to be a pro... with TA bs) posting some charts of the past to predict the future.

Funny i dont see any of them making a bank.


Sorry I didn't see your claim to fame? What did you predict that was worth reading?

I predict you're a bear looking to buy back in lower. hence you're on a mission to spread more fears.... when noobs are fearful, you're greedy.

Now tell me, is my prediction closer to the truth?


Like I said earlier, I don't spread anything with the intention of manipulating others. To me that is childish and not worth my effort. There must be what 100 people that visit this thread daily? If i managed to make half of them sell it would probably move the market 10 dollars. Please don't be so simple minded to think that's why I post, because it's ridiculous.

If I was of that mind set I would be orchestrating DDOS attacks on the forum during the past 2 hours of activity, posting fake links of FUD on Reddit/Bitcoin and spamming the IRC channel with the FUD. But I'm not that type of person. I'm just on here for some good banter and the occasional facts from people.

fyi I'm glad you're on the thread. Nothing personal with my posts at all. Play on playa



193. Post 3857296 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

tbh as corrections go, it's a bit of a relief. I'd prefer us to have corrected to four figures rather than three but seeing as I bought at two figures I can't complain.



194. Post 3857917 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Vigil on December 06, 2013, 11:57:16 PM
The morons jumping in at $840 cause they think they are getting cheap coins.
yep apart from the fact they are getting cheap coins they are absolute morons.



195. Post 3864198 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

fucking hell 576! glad I slept through that.



196. Post 3870936 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

China got us to 1200 and china crashed us back down. There's going to be huge uncertainty until china figures out the reality of their situation.

On a plus note the black market in china is probably bigger than the economies of most nations.



197. Post 3871053 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: malevolent on December 07, 2013, 11:12:22 PM
Funny to see both btc-e and bitstamp higher than gox.

apparently btc-e are doing more volume than gox now? You know you are crashing when btc-e is the highest price



198. Post 3871143 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

I've ordered two hundred and fifty thousand pizzas for btc and am hoarding them now to resell later.



199. Post 3882293 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: barbs on December 08, 2013, 09:18:46 PM
FYI to all, right now from 7 days ago we are down 26%. From 3 days ago we are down 32%. In the last 24 hours, we are down 2.99%. From 30 days ago, we are up 106.43%.

This is with China news triggering a huge selloff that would have devastated the price in April.  

That news did not define an outright ban in bitcoin and many of the attributes the chinese investors and people from around the world found attractive have not changed.



agreed. Markets are an amazing thing.

I'm often reminded of the way flocks of birds move almost as a single entity despite being made of hundred of autonomous entities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH-groCeKbE

china crisis hit us hard and we were in full on panic mode yet @550 the market decided woohoo cheap coins! I still think anything under 1000 is cheap coins. Not sure if we'll make 4 figures next week but we'll come close.



200. Post 3882820 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: justusranvier on December 08, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
china crisis hit us hard and we were in full on panic mode yet @550 the market decided woohoo cheap coins! I still think anything under 1000 is cheap coins. Not sure if we'll make 4 figures next week but we'll come close.
The crisis was imaginary. What happened in China was actually good news.

not going to argue if it was or wasn't. The important thing is that the market saw it as bad.



201. Post 3882931 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Ivanhoe on December 08, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
china crisis hit us hard and we were in full on panic mode yet @550 the market decided woohoo cheap coins! I still think anything under 1000 is cheap coins. Not sure if we'll make 4 figures next week but we'll come close.
The crisis was imaginary. What happened in China was actually good news.

not going to argue if it was or wasn't. The important thing is that the market saw it as bad.
Could be that the market is changing their opinion about it now.

I don't think any of us could say it was good news but we could probably agree that is wasn't as bad as people made out initially.

Couple of randomish points: People in china are still using QQ coins pretty widely and the black market economy of china is probably bigger than the gdp of several eu nations.



202. Post 3883005 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on December 08, 2013, 10:27:03 PM
china crisis hit us hard and we were in full on panic mode yet @550 the market decided woohoo cheap coins! I still think anything under 1000 is cheap coins. Not sure if we'll make 4 figures next week but we'll come close.
The crisis was imaginary. What happened in China was actually good news.

Can you elaborate why ?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sbefw/chinese_investment_banker_says_what_nobody_in_the/

The crash has almost nothing to do with the "quasi"-ban on bitcoins and everything to do with new ID verification requirements by BTCChina.

Same old story. An exchange attracts money launderers and price manipulators. Then requires ID verification. The criminals flee to another exchange.

My guess is someone will set up the new btcchina in India soon.

this explains btc-e's recent surges



203. Post 3883016 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: justusranvier on December 08, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
The crash has almost nothing to do with the "quasi"-ban on bitcoins and everything to do with new ID verification requirements by BTCChina.

Same old story. An exchange attracts money launderers and price manipulators. Then requires ID verification. The criminals flee to another exchange.

My guess is someone will set up the new btcchina in India soon.
I would believe that, except that it doesn't make sense for somebody who doesn't want to get caught in ID verification to dump less-traceable bitcoins on BTCChina for more-traceable CNY.

That scenario would have played out like the Mt Gox withdrawal problems this summer, where traders with trapped fiat would buy bitcoins, withdraw them to another exchange, and sell there.

dumb money dumped, smart money moved



204. Post 3883131 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on December 08, 2013, 10:36:46 PM
china crisis hit us hard and we were in full on panic mode yet @550 the market decided woohoo cheap coins! I still think anything under 1000 is cheap coins. Not sure if we'll make 4 figures next week but we'll come close.
The crisis was imaginary. What happened in China was actually good news.

Can you elaborate why ?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sbefw/chinese_investment_banker_says_what_nobody_in_the/

The crash has almost nothing to do with the "quasi"-ban on bitcoins and everything to do with new ID verification requirements by BTCChina.

Same old story. An exchange attracts money launderers and price manipulators. Then requires ID verification. The criminals flee to another exchange.

My guess is someone will set up the new btcchina in India soon.

this explains btc-e's recent surges
No, because they would buy bitcoin at BTC China with their funds, and then sell at BTC-e, giving the exact opposite result.

If they are just trying to accumulate coin, knowing that withdrawing fiat is pointless then btc-e makes sense. It really depends on the pov of the person. Like if you are a person that wants to do everything off the books and are in china and have btc you are going to withdraw your btc to a wallet then send some to btc-e to play with.



205. Post 3883609 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

800+ up where we belong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5h02ZmeB5c



206. Post 3883657 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

gox really need to sort their shit out.



207. Post 3883716 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 08, 2013, 11:26:44 PM
The three magic numbers I am looking at for the short term are:

576: The low.
860: The bounce high.
864: 50% off the low.

How do you mean, 50% off the low. Excuse me, I just don't know what you mean by that. Smiley

576 x 1.5



208. Post 3883771 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

for me the numbers are 600 and 850. There was quite a battle around 850 but once it was breached we went into free fall until we dipped under 600 at which point the demand returned



209. Post 3893742 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: dgarcia on December 09, 2013, 05:48:47 PM
The question as far as I'm concerned is whether this is real or some type of dead cat bounce.  I mean to get over $1000, close to $1100 would mean something to me.  If it stalls out soon though I'd be worried it's headed for another drop.  We'll see I guess.  Anyone familiar with characteristics of dead cat bounce?

It has the characteristic of an dead cat bounce.

http://thepatternsite.com/dcb.html

But nobody knows.

Uncertainty.

seems a bit big of a bounce to me.

1226 > 576 > 910

is what happened

a dead cat bounce would be something like 1226 > 576 > 600-700 and then back down.

what we have here is a cat on a trampoline!



210. Post 3896613 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

has mac gone to bed yet? I need to get some bids in. When's the rally? 30mins?



211. Post 3897429 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: cbutters on December 09, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Have any of you seen this bloomberg report?
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/12-days-of-bitcoin-struggling-to-buy-one-6gju__9xTpi5qyI_~aQy9A.html

Maybe I am just too much of a technical computer person, but I am speechless at the incompetence, and inability to grasp the basic bitcoin concept by "top minds". Watching some of these "experts" dismiss bitcoin without understanding any of the basic principles, makes my brain scream BUY BUY BUY....  No wonder it keeps growing exponentially despite important people, people with clout, saying it is a fad or malarcky, the financial "experts" saying this are absolutely incompetent, too set in their ways or too old to understand basic principles of cryptology, and even the long forgot basics of simple exchange.

No wonder it keeps growing while people shake their heads in disbelief and refusal, people are dumber than I realized, (or more stuck in their ways.) Bitcoin is going to sneak up on all of them.

there was a similar thing on the motleyfool. where they tried to pay for a christmas party with bitcoin. the whole thing was OMG it's so hard to get on and OMG we're being fucked on fees then once they got bitcoin they just went around 7/11 and asked then if they accepted bitcoin then a few other shops then the admitted defeat.

fuck these people



212. Post 3897813 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

come on bitstamp hit 900



213. Post 3897892 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: freethink2013 on December 09, 2013, 11:07:24 PM
come on bitstamp hit 900
lot of resistance at 899.999 ffs



214. Post 3909306 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsT4xnKZPg

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
Let us sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

Altogether shout it now
There's no one
Who can doubt it now
So let us tell the world about it now
Happy days are here again

Your cares and troubles are gone
There'll be no more from now on,

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So, let us sing a song of happy cheer again,

Happy, happy, happy days
Are here again!



215. Post 3913202 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

I'm pretty sure someone quoted me saying "anything below 1000 is a bargain" and they were trying to shame me.

lol



216. Post 3998700 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Can anyone link me up the new china crisis? There was something about no withdrawals  at btcchina. Interesting that this floor seems similar to the original china crisis floor on the 7th.

edit: http://www.coindesk.com/china-bans-payment-companies-working-bitcoin-exchanges-sources-claim/



217. Post 4025825 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

hello 600 my old friend



218. Post 4028896 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

fuck china. those fuckers were trading garlic recently.



219. Post 4028918 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: Nightowlace on December 18, 2013, 05:58:49 PM

Holy shit! What a day. In the last hour and a half I just sold crazy amounts of Casascius Coins. This price dip has a lot of people stocking up. Either that or like me they suck at day tarding realized that and decided it was best to have physical coins that they wont lose trading. haha.

How many more compared to a normal day?

I sell an average of 2-3 coins per day. Mostly singles for 1.3B each.

Today I sold two 2011 singles with error, a 10BTC all silver, 3 Silver gold B singles, a 2011 series two single, a silver 0.5, I am waiting on payment for two silver singles, and have had inquiries for 9 2013 singles. This has all come via the forum and personal emails.

fair fucks - that casino story should be a blog. loved the way you bought back in too.



220. Post 4029079 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: humanitee on December 18, 2013, 06:09:50 PM
"Hey guys let's base our decision on what China is doing even though they have no mechanism to support the price."  - Idiots, 12/18/2013

Cheesy



221. Post 4029162 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: spooderman on December 18, 2013, 06:13:55 PM
http://bitcointicker.co/combined/ is killing my computer. Fans going to so hard I feel the site is using my CPU to mine!

there used to be a javascript years ago that webmasters could put on their sites so site visitors would mine for them so it's not beyond possibility



222. Post 4029291 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on December 18, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
Holy shit! What a day. In the last hour and a half I just sold crazy amounts of Casascius Coins. This price dip has a lot of people stocking up. Either that or like me they suck at day tarding realized that and decided it was best to have physical coins that they wont lose trading. haha.

Not sure if intentional typo, but henceforth I shall refer to the act of exchanging btc for fiat and vice versa on a daily basis as DAY TARDING  Cheesy

Me, I'm no day tarder, I'm just hodling.
day tarding and hodling are both classics imo



223. Post 4029819 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 18, 2013, 07:07:38 PM

alex jones

lol

it's zerohedge really

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-17/us-treasurys-financial-crimes-enforcement-network-reaching-out-bitcoin-businesses



224. Post 4047405 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

I'd be happy with us stabilizing somewhere north of 700



225. Post 4047436 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

WHAT HAVE i DONE!?

That said, anything under $1000 is still a bargain



226. Post 4049370 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

No doubt there will be a lot of cheap coins as china liquidates but anything under 700 is now cheap coins. I think we'll probably hit 550 at some stage but not for long.



227. Post 4049815 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

looks like the price of freedom is going UPPPPPPP



228. Post 4062527 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Interesting statement from a few days ago

Quote
The Revenue Commissioners are "actively" monitoring the use of bitcoin in an effort to catch tax cheats.

Minister for Finance Michael Noonan says the use of bitcoin instead of traditional cash does not pose much of a tax risk, because people will still pay VAT when paying for goods and services.

The online currency has become popular among money launderers as a way to move money around the globe without being taxed.

But Minister Noonan says that the threat to the Exchequer is low because anyone who is likely to use bitcoin to skip taxes is probably already acting illegally anyway.

It is the first time that the Government here has discussed the risks posed by the use of the so-called "crypto-currency".




229. Post 4064313 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

wish these doge coin mofos would fuck off this thread. it's not going to be the meme of 2014 but bitcoin will still be around. starwars kid should launch a crypto



230. Post 4064572 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

550 christmas low, 850 christmas high



231. Post 4065384 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: JulieFig on December 20, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
I've had three friends pull their money out and walk away from bit coin over the past few days.

Well done market makers / manipulators!

Really?   They didn't know going in that this happens?   I am very careful to explain the risks and how these things work to my friends.   Not one is less interested now than they were, which is to say most are quite sorry they didn't buy when I told them they should  Tongue

Did your friends lose money?

He lost about 3-4K $... oh well

There was a lady who bought at $1000 posting on this forum who had to take out a loan on their house to buy her first BTC. Kept talking about her dad investing 3000 BTC and trying to convince her to make her first buy. I wonder what happened to her.  Embarrassed

I'm still here Smiley. Still reading... Still 'hodling'. I paid $1080 for each of my 11.1 bitcoins and have not sold - I rationalise this like so: bitcoin is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it right? And I refuse to sell them for less, which means they are still worth at least $1080 . Ergo, I have lost no money Wink. How's that for a comforting delusion?

Totally hang on. What's happening now is people trying to freak you out and get your coins cheap. I don't think you are going to see 'profit' in the next few months but I think we'll see 1080 per bitcoin soon too. At which stage you should just continue to hold.




232. Post 4077514 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

I'm pretty pleased with the stability tbh. We could well hit 550 tomorrow but it looks like we'll settle at 650 come monday. I don't expect much volume over christmas and once we get back over 800 we'll have officially shaken off china. We'll probably have a lot of panics as china exists but we'll be 800 into the new year regardless



233. Post 4077867 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on December 21, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
I'm pretty pleased with the stability tbh. We could well hit 550 tomorrow but it looks like we'll settle at 650 come monday. I don't expect much volume over christmas and once we get back over 800 we'll have officially shaken off china. We'll probably have a lot of panics as china exists but we'll be 800 into the new year regardless

Have you ever watched the price of petrol/gasoline during a global crisis? It increases dramatically. When the event is over and the market stabilizes the price drops but never to the level that it was before the event that moved it. Bitcoin is proving to be a commodity the reacts similarly.  
I hear what you are saying but gas prices are the most manipulated commodity ever. bitcoin is heavily manipulated but not to the same extent i.e. there is no real opec in our scenario.  We could say the 'bit' in 'bitcoin' is because it's a bit like oil, a bit like gold, a bit like whatever.

I suppose the gold/oil connection is scarcity/difficulty. I'd argue bitcoin is closer to gold than oil. Gold and bitcoin have arguable intrinsic value but it's scarcity that makes them valuable. Same for diamonds/silver etc. Yes you can do some stuff, make jewelry and electronic components but it's manly about a store of wealth.

Oil is different. Oil has a real intrinsic value. It is fuel. A real difficultly(cost) to mine plus it has a cartel limiting the supply.

talking out loud tbh lol



234. Post 4078338 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on December 21, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
I'm pretty pleased with the stability tbh. We could well hit 550 tomorrow but it looks like we'll settle at 650 come monday. I don't expect much volume over christmas and once we get back over 800 we'll have officially shaken off china. We'll probably have a lot of panics as china exists but we'll be 800 into the new year regardless

Have you ever watched the price of petrol/gasoline during a global crisis? It increases dramatically. When the event is over and the market stabilizes the price drops but never to the level that it was before the event that moved it. Bitcoin is proving to be a commodity the reacts similarly.  
I hear what you are saying but gas prices are the most manipulated commodity ever. bitcoin is heavily manipulated but not to the same extent i.e. there is no real opec in our scenario.  We could say the 'bit' in 'bitcoin' is because it's a bit like oil, a bit like gold, a bit like whatever.

I suppose the gold/oil connection is scarcity/difficulty. I'd argue bitcoin is closer to gold than oil. Gold and bitcoin have arguable intrinsic value but it's scarcity that makes them valuable. Same for diamonds/silver etc. Yes you can do some stuff, make jewelry and electronic components but it's manly about a store of wealth.

Oil is different. Oil has a real intrinsic value. It is fuel. A real difficultly(cost) to mine plus it has a cartel limiting the supply.

talking out loud tbh lol

I like that - a bit like oil, a bit like gold. lol

I meant the reaction from market manipulation instead of actual intrinsic value. Bitcoin is highly manipulated by a few power players, so is crude oil.
Oil is manipulated with supply too though. Totally agree that the bitcoin market itself is manipulated with big players willing to dump coins at below market prices to panic the market at which stage they buy back. rinse and repeat.






235. Post 4078350 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: Drabla on December 21, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
On our way to 400s - by Sunday evening.
Now, it's either  Cry Angry or  Grin  Cool , depending where your money is.
Imho there are too many people waiting for those prices. It has to first go up to a level that is considered a good exit point for the anti-hodlers (and those chinese that want to pass the bomb to another player)

I'd guess most volume is at 550. below that is wishful thinking.



236. Post 4094759 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

bullish here. Can see us hitting 550 maybe once or twice this year as china flees but not too much lower. The issue is low volume over the holidays but in the new year I'm confident once we hit 800 we won't look back in any meaningful way.



237. Post 4094774 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 22, 2013, 09:27:06 PM
If Satoshi is exiting perhaps we should pay attention.  

We are.

Do we have any evidence that the old coins recently moved could have been from Satoshi?  I understand that the Satoshi coin are sitting in 50 BTC blocks, untouched since mining.  Has anyone been able to see if the old coins that just moved were from a bunch of old addresses each containing 50 BTC?

None apart from various bullshit bears looking for cheap coins so pushing any old bs.



238. Post 4094991 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Nice to have a stable weekend with no wild (for bitcoin) fluctuations.



239. Post 4096008 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: byronbb on December 22, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted, but here is BTC China statment from Bobby: https://vip.btcchina.com/page/notice20131220

Reading between the lines speaks volumes here...

Ya help me out with reading between the lines.

china is fucked. there's still prostitutes available for qq coin though. the Chinese black market is bigger that several European economies though. Still fucked though.



240. Post 4106321 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Satanist bears trying to keep it a 666 for the baby jebuses birthday. for shame



241. Post 4109786 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: Loozik on December 23, 2013, 08:29:58 PM



A pretty lady with smart eyes.

So what first attracted her to bitcoin millionaire goat?

(only joking goat, just paraphrased this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-9lSEBBm0 )



242. Post 4110347 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

can't see 900 this year but people could go hyper after christmas. I think 4 figures in jan/feb will happen. I still think we've got to shake off bad news china and that could take a while. They'll be panicking all the way to the end of jan.



243. Post 4110405 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Farang! (not you goat, phil)



244. Post 4110908 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: philip2000uk on December 23, 2013, 10:00:55 PM
Farang! (not you goat, phil)
Even goat is a farang...why the hell would you be trying to say that in a disrespectful way?  You're the most nasty obnoxious (probably american) human i've come across.

So it's wrong for me to want an asian girl but not for goat? WOW double standards, who the hell made you the love police?

not one for understatements, are you phil? lol. You don't know me.



245. Post 4111060 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: philip2000uk on December 23, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Farang! (not you goat, phil)
Even goat is a farang...why the hell would you be trying to say that in a disrespectful way?  You're the most nasty obnoxious (probably american) human i've come across.

So it's wrong for me to want an asian girl but not for goat? WOW double standards, who the hell made you the love police?

not one for understatements, are you phil? lol. You don't know me.
Why do you like being nasty? What was the whole point in it?

do me a favour and put me on ignore. you've a persecution complex. All I said was you were ferang. Hardly the insult of the century. If you think I'm the most nasty obnoxious person then good luck in the real world, precious.

--------------

And back to btc, I guess will bash around the 700 ceiling for a while and even if we rise above it we'll panic our way back down. We need a few goes above the ceiling then suddenly we accelerate towards 850 again!



246. Post 4111219 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: BitChick on December 23, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
LOL! Who IS this guy anyway? He seems like a straw man to me... Roll Eyes
http://nypost.com/2013/12/23/government-robbed-me-of-33m-in-bitcoins-silk-road-pirate/

wow, even though he is going to lose, the courts are going to have to make a ruling on it, and more or less claim that btc is property and thus give it all sorts of rights.


pretty cool for btc.


also he more or less admitting to running silk road must mean his case is extremely weak.

Will this force the US government to wait longer to do anything with all of that BTC?  That could be good for Bitcoin's value too I would think.  The longer they wait to sell is less coin on the market.

They cannot sell until after the court case. They can seize assets but they can't sell them off before it's proven they are criminal assets.



247. Post 4111349 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

I read some article earlier (probably that forbes one) but they've seized domains and intellectual property in the past so i don't see how bitcoin would be any different. Maybe it's just Ross wants to force the idea that bitcoin are a real store of value before he goes to jail for ages. Good on him.



248. Post 4111620 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

looks like the last minute christmas gift market is pushing us upwards. expect hundreds of threads tomorrow on how to print a paper wallet!



249. Post 4111703 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

we'll have a crisis of confidence over christmas, dip below 700 then it's to the moon. four figures in '14 once we shake off the chinese.



250. Post 4111725 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

it's funny the way at certain values (100, 500, 700, 900, 1000) we'll push against it tentatively a bit and then panic a few times before plucking up courage to go past it. It's very human



251. Post 4112239 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

have to say that hodl thing cracks me up still. I know I should be bored/over it but i'm not.

Also love the phrase "day tarding"



252. Post 4112421 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: Kj1 on December 23, 2013, 11:52:59 PM
one day rise and the whole sentiment changes here?
aint falling for it.
haven't changed my sentiment at all. lots of people looking for cheap coins = more expensive coins. It's supply and demand. Too many people hoping for coins at 380-450. It was never going to happen. The floor was 550 and al;though there's a chance we'll see that again as china panics we're not going to see any lower.



253. Post 4112653 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Without going into too much detail : YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!



254. Post 4112745 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

i'm going to day tard the shit out of this



255. Post 4112788 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: macsga on December 24, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
G'nite everyone... Wink

what kind of witchcraft is this?



256. Post 4119821 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: mmitech on December 24, 2013, 11:36:44 AM
I am really curious about the price going down after this stability !!! for sure there is no volume yet to move the price, but I like the stability.....

on the other hand  I know allot of you are waiting for a drop to buy in, which makes it even harder to happen..... 

I'm sure we'll have a few dips as china goes through it's death throes.



257. Post 4127219 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: mmitech on December 24, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
this is by far the slowest bitcoin crash in recorded history

Following my calculations we will find the bottom at 325 in the year 2024 ;-)

So, patience please!

did you just say calculations ? you mean predictions right ? I wont jump to conclusions but I will ask you to share your "calculations" with us, can you please ? I am really curious !

whoosh



258. Post 4142697 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 25, 2013, 10:07:45 PM
Somebody's buying all bitstamp ... I wonder what's up there

maybe oda.krell?

I love it when my own buys make a noticeable candle, pushing it above some interesting price point. (only on Bitstamp, so less volume is needed, but still feels good Cheesy)


I wish Tongue I placed one large-ish buy an hour ago. Now I'm in with all that I'm prepared to spend atm.

damn you oda, fleeing from bear ranks, what's your position now if i may ask? Smiley

EDIT. i'm still 50/50, but maybe i'll adjust that little bit in next oversold situation

I'm all in with the speculative part of my position. Ready to sell (at a loss if necessary) if things don't go the way I hope they do, but the stability of the recent few days is a pretty positive sign IMO, short term at least.

i'm wondering is the stability just because of holidays, but i could be wrong

Mad china is almost out of the picture. Now we can get back to earth. Those guys love gambling/speculation. It's gaming and not realistic. Good riddance but thanks for your (china's) support. Stick to speculating on garlic and who'll get sars next.

As stated earlier, bar the shaking off china up until the end on jan, from here we should see steady but slower growth.



259. Post 4143790 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 25, 2013, 11:43:58 PM
I don't know why people are still talking about China. Look at btcchina's volume the past days and compare it to their previous volumes. And that is before the market is completely cut off from the banking and payment providers end of Feb.

I would disregard all the other exchanges as they are likely to be manufacturing their data, same as OKCoin. Do you really believe there is 60k 24h volume on some Huobi site when there is 15k in btcchina, MtGox and Bitstamp all added together?

China is dead. It will probably stay dead. US and Europe remain leaders in Bitcoin.

The biggest mistake I made is thinking the market reacts instantly. They don't. There's people in china who still haven't fully got the message. They won't get the message until the end of january.

imo you can't just ignore the reason for us hitting 4 figures because it suits you. They inmfluenced the market last month and they'll influence the market until the end of jan.

I'm bullish and think we'll be 4 figures in jan/feb. Fuck china but thanks for the boost.



260. Post 4143823 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 25, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
Did that work out for QQcoins in China?

Perhaps I am wrong, but I wouldn't bet against the Chinese state's ability to stamp down things it doesn't like. Obviously people will always be able to trade OTC, but naturally that is a pittance compared to having an exchange.

You can still pay for sex with qq coins btw.

Also the black economy of china probably dwarfs many european states gdp.



261. Post 4144582 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on December 26, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Do you think its wise to hold off buying right now?

i think it's cheap but I also think we'll see some panic as china plays out



262. Post 4157283 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

slightly above day one of the senate hearings again.



263. Post 4157407 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Dalmar on December 26, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
The whole China thing is getting played out...  no one cares much anymore.  Bitcoin will probably matter most in emerging markets, not US/China anyway.

lol @ China being 'played out'. The current largest BTC exchange by volume is Chinese for fuck's sake.

china was the leader in terms of price on the way up , now it's behind all the other exchanges. I think they'll still cause issues as whatever the reality foir bitcoin in china post january plays out but they are becoming marginalized.



264. Post 4157706 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Dalmar on December 26, 2013, 09:02:19 PM
inb4 bought Bitcoin to get drugs Cheesy

Almost everyone here has purchased drugs with their bitcoins at one point in time.

Rubbish.



265. Post 4157963 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 26, 2013, 09:16:32 PM
once important resistant is breached price tends to rally and then come back to test it as support, just as now in stamp at 720

I felt if we could get back to where we were after the first day of the senate hearings then we'd have recovered from china. I still think we'll see some panics but they'll be temporary things and the overall trend is up, just not so crazy as when china was driving price.



266. Post 4158400 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

I always got my drugs from a local dealer. Paid in cash. First name basis only. I didn't know his address, he didn't know mine. Send drugs through the mail! are you fucking mad?!

Obviously that was years ago and I don't do anything but drink these days. No way I'm going to get involved in the honeytrap that is tor and give the group that snitches far more than any other criminal group my name and address. Seriously, put down the crack pipe. If you used silkroad 1.0 chances are you are a known person of interest and eventually you'll be leant on for info. And sadly you'll sing like the proverbial canary.




267. Post 4158495 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Parazyd on December 26, 2013, 09:48:03 PM
Could you quit the drug talk? Thanks.

Sorry but it's kind of relevant to the discussion. It was thought for a long time that sr was a major reason for the price rises in bitcoin and it's still held up as a price mover. I'll try not dwell on it any longer though. I'm presuming you are another bitcoiner who had nothing to do with sr/drug dealing. I believe we are in the majority tbh.



268. Post 4158535 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: mmitech on December 26, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
I always got my drugs from a local dealer. Paid in cash. First name basis only. I didn't know his address, he didn't know mine. Send drugs through the mail! are you fucking mad?!

Obviously that was years ago and I don't do anything but drink these days. No way I'm going to get involved in the honeytrap that is tor and give the group that snitches far more than any other criminal group my name and address. Seriously, put down the crack pipe. If you used silkroad 1.0 chances are you are a known person of interest and eventually you'll be leant on for info.



holy shit !! by drugs you mean hard drugs or marijuana ?  Adam I think we need a new poll here, It goes like that "are you drug addicted, is this why you started using Bitcoin ? "

my answer to the poll is no. and the previous question's answer would be 'both'



269. Post 4158762 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: oda.krell on December 26, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
yep, i was so sure that we will go down again so i took too big risk and then you know what happened, came by surprise this rally, but i feel good nevertheless, hard choices are part of trading

i'm not too confident about this rise thou, but i think we go >800 at stamp at least before possible drop, what you think?

k, here's my big secret thought.

alright, it's not really secret. and not particularly big or deep either. anyway:

I have quite some confidence in this rally right now (bid/ask looks good everywhere, several important trendlines are active, volume looks good). As long as we're above 700 (ideal), 670 (less ideal, still okay) (bitstamp prices, as always), we're golden.

That's point 1.

Point 2 is: I have equally much confidence that our correction is far from over yet.

So the tricky part is to figure out how to combine the two. Or more accurately, figure out when #1 ends and #2 kicks in again.

I think 650 is the figure at which even when people are screaming "china is dead, china is dead" that people will consider those coins cheap. No idea on the upper limit. I think we'll be 4 figure by feb but may hit 650-700 a few times on the way.



270. Post 4159046 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: TERA on December 26, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
What all this noise in here? Why isn't every single post. "Wow thanks China. We better keep an eye on China as they are 100% responsible for this action".

did you mean to post this in November?



271. Post 4159338 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Holliday on December 26, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
What all this noise in here? Why isn't every single post. "Wow thanks China. We better keep an eye on China as they are 100% responsible for this action".

is CNY buying up the coins on stamps and gox?
 

Yeah... the exchange rate is increasing. China has the lowest exchange rate. Yet, China is responsible for the exchange rate increase.

I'm not seeing it, nor have I been seeing it since the huge correction.

It's more about psychology.

"Look at all the volume on Huobi. They must be buying out all the coins."

"Oops I guess China isn't over. I better rebuy the coins I sold because of China, right away because we're going straight back to the moon where we were with China".

Plus a possible short squeeze due to the unexpected action.

China should not be ignored, but anyone still giving it the weight which people used to give it might find themselves regretting that decision.

Anyone taking Chinese exchange volume seriously should also think twice.

exactly.



272. Post 4171544 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

china is semi-irrelevant now.



273. Post 4171844 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

it's sad to see these bears who were right once (because of china) trying to pretend they have a clue.



274. Post 4174674 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on December 27, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
Just invested my life savings in Dogecoin. If this doesn't turn out well, I intend to blame everyone in this thread.

Cheesy



275. Post 4175106 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

can the doge people please stay off this thread?



276. Post 4175340 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: kurious on December 27, 2013, 09:19:55 PM
can the doge people please stay off this thread?

Why - you got BTC news?  It's tumbleweed town here.

I am a BTC hodler, just it's Christmas and really rather boring.   It's hardly serious taking the piss out of alts...

Freethinking not allowed? Wink
Really? There's a huge amount of forums and threads on every subject but me asking that posts in a thread about btc prices should be somewhat related to btc prices is anti-freethinking?

If I wanted to chat about the Wiemar republic I wouldn't use this thread. I'd start my own or post in an existing thread. Posting off topic isn't freethinking, it's lazy (and somewhat cowardly imho.) Is your point that if there isn't huge activity in the bitcoin market then we should use this thread as off topic chit chat?

Not sure you've thought this through tbh.

785 btw.



277. Post 4175434 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

777.

Honestly I may have exaggerated/over-reacted on the the doge thing lol. I take it all back!



278. Post 4175504 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: kurious on December 27, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
can the doge people please stay off this thread?

Why - you got BTC news?  It's tumbleweed town here.

I am a BTC hodler, just it's Christmas and really rather boring.   It's hardly serious taking the piss out of alts...

Freethinking not allowed? Wink
Really? There's a huge amount of forums and threads on every subject but me asking that posts in a thread about btc prices should be somewhat related to btc prices is anti-freethinking?

If I wanted to chat about the Wiemar republic I wouldn't use this thread. I'd start my own or post in an existing thread. Posting off topic isn't freethinking, it's lazy (and somewhat cowardly imho.) Is your point that if there isn't huge activity in the bitcoin market then we should use this thread as off topic chit chat?

Not sure you've thought this through tbh.

785 btw.

OK - I ain't gonna fight - but Adam just posted a pic of a girl's rear with a Bitcoin tattoo - wasn't exactly TA was it...

Funny, but arguably a tad frivolous (and I didn't mind).

This thread is for serious junkies who watch it because it is the most active - when it's not, it's relatively dull.

C'mon - even Walsoraj made a joke about Doge coin!

I will quit - if you post something interesting and perceptive about Bitcoin - deal?  

Over to you for the next 5 minutes Smiley

Let's just move on. I already said I over-reacted. See above. I lolled at Walsoraj's joke.

re bitcoin: Anything below 1000 is a bargain



279. Post 4175751 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

775

It was the big doge img set me off
Quote from: kurious on December 27, 2013, 09:45:57 PM
can the doge people please stay off this thread?

Why - you got BTC news?  It's tumbleweed town here.

I am a BTC hodler, just it's Christmas and really rather boring.   It's hardly serious taking the piss out of alts...

Freethinking not allowed? Wink
Really? There's a huge amount of forums and threads on every subject but me asking that posts in a thread about btc prices should be somewhat related to btc prices is anti-freethinking?

If I wanted to chat about the Wiemar republic I wouldn't use this thread. I'd start my own or post in an existing thread. Posting off topic isn't freethinking, it's lazy (and somewhat cowardly imho.) Is your point that if there isn't huge activity in the bitcoin market then we should use this thread as off topic chit chat?

Not sure you've thought this through tbh.

785 btw.

OK - I ain't gonna fight - but Adam just posted a pic of a girl's rear with a Bitcoin tattoo - wasn't exactly TA was it...

Funny, but arguably a tad frivolous (and I didn't mind).

This thread is for serious junkies who watch it because it is the most active - when it's not, it's relatively dull.

C'mon - even Walsoraj made a joke about Doge coin!

I will quit - if you post something interesting and perceptive about Bitcoin - deal?  

Over to you for the next 5 minutes Smiley

Let's just move on. I already said I over-reacted. See above. I lolled at Walsoraj's joke.

re bitcoin: Anything below 1000 is a bargain

No worries - have a great new year - I think we will all have an interesting one and in that I am referring to Bitcoin only.

You too. I'd just like to apologize and state that I wasn't even really annoyed to begin with. It was more like an excuse to have a rant than something that annoyed me. I tend to follow this thread in the evenings along with a bottle of wine and mainly for entertainment purposes. And I quite like a heated debate.

I've upset a couple of people on here (not you) and that's never been my intention. I do love an argument but sometimes the fact that it's good natured doesn't quite translate. Anyho enough of my self-obsession lol

780




280. Post 4175947 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on December 27, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Nooooooo, where the hell are you all going!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please stay
This thread is making me happy and sad at the same time.

I will be buying my first real coins next week and would like to see what else you have to say

what are you talking about? no-one is leaving?

What are you thinking about for bids? For me, you'll be lucky if 650 gets filled then as we head towards 900 you'll have more and more chances of buying.



281. Post 4175990 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on December 27, 2013, 10:11:07 PM
Nooooooo, where the hell are you all going!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please stay
This thread is making me happy and sad at the same time.

I will be buying my first real coins next week and would like to see what else you have to say

what are you talking about? no-one is leaving?

What are you thinking about for bids? For me, you'll be lucky if 650 gets filled then as we head towards 900 you'll have more and more chances of buying.

Sorry Sir, I will keep my mouth shut. I would be good news if I could buy a few coins for 650 or so

Nope please post. The more the merrier imho



282. Post 4176047 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: kurious on December 27, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Nooooooo, where the hell are you all going!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please stay
This thread is making me happy and sad at the same time.

I will be buying my first real coins next week and would like to see what else you have to say

Ah a new victim!   If you buy in, you will waste hours on this forum looking for solace and people who tell you something you want to hear.

Then a year later - you will do the maths on the hours you have spent watching and wondering and possibly work out if it paid you enough for your time.

Best advice to make that equation a positive one is this:

1. Buy
2. Store in a cold wallet
3. Carry on with living your life and forget about it for a year.


Seriously!

good idea but if I'm honest the biggest utility I've got from bitcoin  is watching charts and chatting on here. I lost thousands of dollars with the drop from four figures back down to three but it was so fucking entertaining!



283. Post 4176126 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on December 27, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
Complete n00b question. I have not bought or traded on a Exchange before. Is it true in me thinking,

Join exchange
Deposit money
Buy coins


you'll also have to verify your identity.

which exchange are you going for?



284. Post 4176291 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on December 27, 2013, 10:24:28 PM
Complete n00b question. I have not bought or traded on a Exchange before. Is it true in me thinking,

Join exchange
Deposit money
Buy coins


you'll also have to verify your identity

Yes of course, whats this "Filling bids" all about. *getting ready to get beaten up*

a filled bid is just a bid that's been fulfilled. like if you bid at 800 for 1btc and that transaction happened then that bid would be considered filled.

the big thing you want to make sure is that you don't just deposit x amount and click buy because then you'll buy at the highest price. It's easier but it's more expensive generally. To get more bang for you buck you need to put in bids below the current price. For instance, if you had clicked buy earlier today 1 bitcoin would've cost you 830 or so but if you'd put in bids you could've got 1 bitcoin for 768.

It's not an exact science and I think anything under 1000 is good value but with a bit of examination of the trends you can get more bitcoin for your money.

Good luck



285. Post 4176444 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

they all have different fees.



286. Post 4177258 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 27, 2013, 11:32:30 PM
i'm convinced the second i decide to go back in bitcoin will crash

and so i wait


<-- bat shit crazy, just buy....

isn't a crash what you want if you are buying?



287. Post 4178198 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: TERA on December 28, 2013, 12:39:18 AM
Yes the last weak arm up before final capitulation is always fueled by a bunch of good news. Before, it was the May btc conference etc.

This time it's taking a bunch of good news AND the sudden artificial influence of China again, so we can see where this is going...

what good news was this?



288. Post 4178262 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: TERA on December 28, 2013, 12:56:06 AM
Yes the last weak arm up before final capitulation is always fueled by a bunch of good news. Before, it was the May btc conference etc.

This time it's taking a bunch of good news AND the sudden artificial influence of China again, so we can see where this is going...

what good news was this?
Overstock, various merchant adoptions and government meetings, bitpay buyout

no honestly, what good news? Overstock don't accept bitcoin. 'Various'? What govt meetings? What happened with bitpay?



289. Post 4178490 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

pffft....i've done enough complaining recently



290. Post 4178598 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 28, 2013, 01:24:11 AM
Hello people,

These last 3 days since X-mas have been my all time worst trading days.

I absolutely hate this drunk holiday market.

stop trading until the new year. people arent in their right (tactical trading) minds over christmas



291. Post 4178734 (copy this link) (by freethink2013) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

have we hit a million dollars yet?

(you laugh at me now)