All posts made by zazzbg1 in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 48055261 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Watching the Bitstamp order book, just minutes ago we had around $30M in buy orders, now suddenly I see $50M+ again?
Can someone explain?  Cheesy
https://i.imgur.com/fXPAnZN.png



2. Post 48055388 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.13h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff_Original on November 19, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
Watching the Bitstamp order book, just minutes ago we had around $30M in buy orders, now suddenly I see $50M+ again?
Can someone explain?  Cheesy
https://i.imgur.com/fXPAnZN.png
Is this a genuine question?  
You can have money on an exchange without having outstanding orders, so that money can be used to make new orders...
Yeah, I get that, but how all of the sudden, in literally 5 minutes, people decide to put $20M+ in buy orders? That's what I am curious about.



3. Post 48057539 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C~4AAOSwRQxaVLNM/s-l300.jpg



4. Post 48064896 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 20, 2018, 08:51:14 AM
Are we literally going to $0


How did you turn from Bull #1 to Bear #1 in just #1 day?  Cry



5. Post 48065306 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

https://imgur.com/a/zzuQWXJ



6. Post 48074556 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U

Some good old memories, love this song.

MAYBE SOMEDAY, I'LL BUY MYSELF MORE COINS
BURNT MYSELF TODAY WHEN MARKET ORDER HIT DAY LOWS
THINK OF ME IN THE DEPTHS OF YOUR DESPAIR
MAKING A HOME DOWN HERE
WITH BEARS, SURE WON'T BE SPARED

I PLACED MY ORDER
IT JUST WON'T CANCEL
THE TIDE IS TURNING AND MT.GOX IS DOWN
IT'S ALL EVAPORATING, IT LEAVES ME BROKEN
I CAN'T HELP FEELING

I COULD HAVE IT ALL
BUT NOW THE PRICE IS DOWN
IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF DDOS
AND I'M FEELING KIND OF GOXXED

I COULD HAVE IT ALL
LYING ON SOME BEACH
THE NEW WEALTHY ELITE
NOW I BLAME IT ON MT.GOX  



7. Post 48076131 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.14h):

Quote from: DeathAngel on November 20, 2018, 03:43:19 PM
How long is it anticipated that the BCH war will go on? Surely they’re not going to continue making losses and/or selling bitcoin to support that rubbish for long?

Imagine if CW gives up & we’re back at 10k before NYE.

Too much to ask?
yes, it is too much...



8. Post 48253490 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

What's going on with BCashSV? 20% up today?  Huh



9. Post 48254304 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.15h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4HUQGgcqPU



10. Post 49161288 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

what was it?
buy high panic sell low



11. Post 49192317 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.25h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 12, 2019, 11:57:53 AM
Of course lightning is a far weaker system than Bitcoin offering far less security and censorship resistance.

You miss the point it does nothing to fix the current monetary system.  The fact bitcoin is designed around having built-in, rent seeking middlemen who you need to ask permission from to move the coins you supposedly own, and then need to pay a ransom extortion fee to, should be a red flag to any non-idiot that bitcoin at it's core does really nothing to alter the evil banking system that currently exists.  The variable of fixed money supply in bitcoin vs infinite fiat supply is pretty much a giant red herring to distract people in this regard.

The real issue at hand isn't the variable of supply, but the ability of people to insert themselves into the middleman position and siphon off wealth while doing virtually nothing, collecting infinite interest, and ownining the entire planet in the process.  The banks do this in their current business model, and both bitcoin and the lightning network are designed the same way.  So nothing really changes in the end.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO NOT have built-in middlemen like bitcoin and the current banking system do.  If I attempt to spend a bitcoin, I am involuntarily making someone else rich in the process - the designed to centralize, built-in middlemen mining monopoly or lightning node monopoly.  If I attempt to spend a gold, silver, or copper coin, NOBODY else is profiting off my transaction and sucking up all wealth in the universe in the process.

I like your content, it makes me think on some aspects of the current world monetary/goods system.
One thing I disagree with is that in order for you to be able to spend that gold, silver or copper coin you've already made someone rich, the guys that mined the raw metal and the guys that sold you the coin so you can spend it.
Unless you start mining gold, silver or copper yourself and then transfer the raw material to a coin, you're making someone else rich.

Try mining gold yourself? Aren't all the gold, silver and copper mines in the World owned by A FEW large corporations based on licenses that the Governments granted them for lots of money?



12. Post 49224867 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.26h):

https://i.imgur.com/jQskaD0.png
Is this BTC price chart or Andy Murray Singles Ranking History Chart  Shocked Huh
Is Andy Murray the real SATOSHI NAKIMOTO  Shocked Huh



13. Post 49329687 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

now that's funny  Shocked



14. Post 49329854 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.27h):

https://cointelegraph.com/news/leaders-of-south-korean-crypto-exchange-komid-jailed-for-faking-volume-local-media
Daily FUD
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The charges reportedly outline a scheme where the exchange faked 5 million transactions in order to inflate the volume, which reportedly earned them $45 million. It is also suspected that the company used a bot to automatically create large orders and attract new users.



15. Post 49655458 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 09:33:46 AM
Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

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Is it illegal to hold gold bullion?
Yes, in this country, from 1933 to 1974 it was illegal for U.S. citizens to own gold in the form of gold bullion, without a special license. On January 1, 1975, these restrictions were lifted and gold can now be freely held in the U. S. without any licensing or restrictions of any kind.

So, what's the problem that they ban owning gold again? Yeah, that might ban owning cryptocurrencies too, but which is easier to find? Gold in physical form or cryptos?

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Can the government seize gold?
Gold Confiscation. ... Under current federal law, gold bullion can be confiscated by the federal government in times of national crisis. As collectibles, rare coins do not fall within the provisions permitting confiscation. No federal law or Treasury department regulation supports these contentions.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

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Did Roosevelt confiscated all gold?
Executive Order 6102 is a United States presidential executive order signed on April 5, 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt "forbidding the Hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States".

What's the problem for that to happen again?


The problem in the modern world today at least for me is how to protect your assets from the thieves called Government. For me, the most important thing is which asset in the world is hardest to track and seize. Years ago when I was younger I was a fan of Bitcoin because I could not truly understand that the technology behind it does not make it truly anonymous and that some of the reasons stated by you are valid. Now I'm a fan of Monero for the reasons stated above.



16. Post 49664801 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 09:32:57 PM
Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you do not even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them.  There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft or destruction of your shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

It's designed to centralize and there IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything.  It's a cuck system.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?
Who do you buy your gold from? Who do the people you buy your gold from are buying their gold from?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable? You will "die" for your banned from trading Gold?  (Something we've seen already happened not that long ago in biggest economies and countries in the World - USA, UK, AU)

Come on.

Gold/Crypto/Whatever is not fixing the main problem of the World today and that's it centralized G O V E R N M E N T.

When people start realizing that and free themselves from Government then we can debate on Gold/Crypto/Whatever.

Until there is a centralized body of Government that "owns" large groups of people no Gold or Crypto or Whatever else will be a safe store of value.

The government will come, will take and if they have will put you in jail or even kill you for your gold if they decide and want to.




17. Post 49665010 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 09:55:43 PM
Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you don't even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe. They can be directly attacked or side channel attacked.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  There is no fucking 'side channel' attack on physical metals.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them. There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft, destruction, or immobilization of your digital shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

There IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything because it's designed to centralize.  It's a cuck system where you're just standing out there like a sitting duck waiting to be cucked.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable?

Unlike bitcoin, it doesn't matter who currently owns or runs whatever minining camp in physical gold, silver, or copper.  Metals remove middlemen and counterparty risk, so it doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is what you have in your hand.  As opposed to bitcoin where people think or make believe they actually own a coin when they don't, otherwise they wouldn't constantly be looking over their shoulder to do things like look up mining pool centralization. You never own a bitcoin.  It's not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  It's cloud banking just like cloud computing aka horrible.

As for the government, I do not give a flying shit what the Jewish occupied govt says.  The evil cult of Judaism is my enemy.  There are 300 million goyim sleeper cells in the US alone ready to expel the Jew just like they've been expelled from nations 300+ times before.  It's inevitable they are given the boot.

Not giving a flying shit is not eliminating the problem, is it?

Metals do not remove middlemen or at least in the way they are today.  I remember some time ago you suggested that we can go and try mine gold by the river ourselves, but where are the biggest sources of gold in the world? Are they by the rivers or they are in the mines and to access/use this mines you need  a)big capital (in government's toilet paper, not in gold) and in most cases  b) permission from your enemy - the evil cult of Judaism a.k.a government. So tell me how would we fix that?
What would happen if gold miners decide to keep the gold for themselves, buy most of the gold back and control it how they want? (with cooperation from the Government of course)
There are historical cases where powerful cooperations (not corporations, but it can be true too) did this. Buying gold in large quantities and over the market price and then controlling the supply. It was so popular around the world wars.  




18. Post 49665209 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 10:27:45 PM
^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?

It's pretty abnormal to want to have kids in an overcrowded/overpopulated environment, combined with the fact knowing the world is on the eve of financial apocalypse where you yourself might even have a low chance of survival. The only type of people who are having kids right now are bottom of the barrel R-selection group brown people or just dumbasses and fools in general.  Women generally fall under the category of fool and will want to have kids no matter what, though.  They will attempt to trick you into this act even if it's a dumb idea.
Waiting for your answer to my post.



19. Post 49665470 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 10:48:18 PM
Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".

You continue talking about gold vs. shitcoins when we're already past this topic.
I agree that in the end, your wealth is what you can hold and own physically. I doubt that in a world where this fact is true gold will be the king.
I'd rather own all the food that people need to exist and distribute it the way I want over owning a shiny piece of metal which is used 50% of the time for shiny pieces of shit that the brainless (in your opinion) women wear (https://www.statista.com/statistics/299609/gold-demand-by-industry-sector-share/)




20. Post 49665654 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 11:00:45 PM
Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".

You continue talking about gold vs. shitcoins when we're already past this topic.
I agree that in the end, your wealth is what you can hold and own physically. I doubt that in the world where this fact is true gold will be the king.
I'd rather own all the food that people need to exist and distribute it the way I want over owning a shiny piece of metal which is used 50% of the time for shiny pieces of shit that the brainless (in your opinion) women wear (https://www.statista.com/statistics/299609/gold-demand-by-industry-sector-share/)

You kinda miss the point that the odds of retaining your wealth while it's stored in metals is higher than that of owning a chain of grocery stores or food supply chain.  Without highly effective martial law on every street corner, your grocery store and everything else will probably just be an empty building, so how is that a great investment?  You might even lose possession of the empty building too.  Your entire train of thought requires faith in and effectiveness of martial law.

The idea is not owning a grocery store but owning the land and the means needed to grow something on this land. Own the whole production cycle.
What wealth do you have in a metal that is used for shiny pieces that brainless (in your opinion) women wear?
Gold is probably the biggest scam in the World so far.  I wonder when it will also burst?
Heck, it was not even used for almost anything else than jewelry until 100 max 150 years ago.
Ancient Egyptians loved gold but in fact, they never traded it. Most Egyptians used agricultural products like barley as a de-facto form of money.  
Gold was a form to say "Hey, I'm imaginary rich cause I have a shiny metal on my neck/finger/dick. I  traded it for 100 cows."
Church/Bible (another big scam) played also a VERY important role in creating the Gold cult.
And as we know religion scam is still trending as well as gold scam if I might call it that way.



21. Post 49665880 (copy this link) (by zazzbg1) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.30h):

Quote from: realr0ach on February 09, 2019, 11:35:58 PM
Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".

You continue talking about gold vs. shitcoins when we're already past this topic.
I agree that in the end, your wealth is what you can hold and own physically. I doubt that in the world where this fact is true gold will be the king.
I'd rather own all the food that people need to exist and distribute it the way I want over owning a shiny piece of metal which is used 50% of the time for shiny pieces of shit that the brainless (in your opinion) women wear (https://www.statista.com/statistics/299609/gold-demand-by-industry-sector-share/)

You kinda miss the point that the odds of retaining your wealth while it's stored in metals is higher than that of owning a chain of grocery stores or food supply chain.  Without highly effective martial law on every street corner, your grocery store and everything else will probably just be an empty building, so how is that a great investment?  You might even lose possession of the empty building too.  Your entire train of thought requires faith in and effectiveness of martial law.

Gold is probably the biggest scam in the World so far.  I wonder when it will also burst?

I'm in silver myself, but anyway, the value of imaginary, centralized, valueless digital tokens is zero, so if you consider gold "the biggest scam in the world", then imaginary, digital shitcoins are the biggest scam in the world squared.  Humans have an actual use for physical commodities.  They have no use for fake, imaginary ones.

Sure, I agree with you. The whole world today is a form of scam that people must reject if they want to evolve. If not, we're surely going to self-extinction.
Crypto is a new form of an old scam called gold (precious metals). And it has the potential to rise in value the same way that the scam of gold (precious metals) did.
It will be shilled the same way Gold was shilled by Bible/Church. The thing is Bible/Church is not that powerful it was so instead people who are popular today will shill it and some of them already do calling crypto "digital gold". It's a long process that might of course fail, but it might also succeed.
The question we must answer to is - what in this world is true and has a value that is directly related to our well being.