All posts made by Davyd05 in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 3400661 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):

are you guys not seeing it almost back at 190?\

well there I can switch the two the moon switch back on now


after my post you write, please check the exchanges lol

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Down, obviously.
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2. Post 3400694 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):

Just cheesed. I didnt get the fiat into an account today ... I would've bought at 160 at 170 even lol.. fackkkkkkkkkkkkkkk



3. Post 3400717 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):

I think it will ripple out like a wave till midday or at least 7am est. Think people are wanting to ensure if they bought in last week or two weeks due to a bunch of new blood buying in (me included) that they retain some sort of profit or gains. Therefore those going long will pick up big dumps here and there till it normalizes.



4. Post 3400764 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.18h):

Buying in at 142cad, I'm fine with movement back to 120usd.

However does anyone think that any of the sales were miners and the fear in new miners that this is the best price they'll see...which I can't personally believe in the long run( 1-2 years). Mind you I'd think these people wouldn't have the volume to initiate this movement or co-ordination but perhaps someone else triggered it, followed by orders left to sell at $170-190 range




5. Post 3507220 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: wildbud on November 07, 2013, 09:16:51 AM
Someone just bought a lot of bitcoins

I saw that, it was like being flamed in an mmo game wall of text style



6. Post 3507245 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on November 07, 2013, 09:18:05 AM
What it must feel like to kill a bear!

I've been like a bull with a pansy trap attached to one of my legs.. I should've honestly have had 10-20k cad invested by a week or two ago.. just twiddled by thumbs and watched the front part of the train leaving.

Dam you non existent crystal ball



7. Post 3507274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 07, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
Flashcrash alert.

The rest of the week may be choppy since we are already so much higher than last week. The weekly gains tend to normalize, and I would not be surprised to see Sunday at around 280-300 like we are now.

Retest of previous ATH from the above in the form of flashcrash is probably coming. I don't believe sub-250 territory will be visited.

Risk of a change in main trend is low.

Looking forward, it is better to buy now than wait. I would be wary if price goes 600+ in November or 700+ in December, since they may be overextended.

I can possibly invest 5k - 50k .. not asking you to decide for me... but would you go all in and sit on it at this point in time?



8. Post 3507311 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: gizmoh on November 07, 2013, 09:29:57 AM
A call to Stampers, look at the chart no dumping is causing crash even from 300. Bitcoin has a lot to climb, a lot. So 283 at stamp is a bargain!

cavirtex is at 280 as well and thats in CAD not USD



9. Post 3507374 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 07, 2013, 09:31:40 AM
I can possibly invest 5k - 50k .. not asking you to decide for me... but would you go all in and sit on it at this point in time?

With all probability 266 has become a floor. Since you should anyway not take risks with bitcoin (not invest more than you seriously, honestly can lose), now it is optimal to buy as quickly as possible. The price is rising and nobody knows how high it will rise, and even if it collapses afterwards, the new low is probably higher that previous ATH:

2011: $2 low vs. $1 old ATH
2013(1): $60 low vs. $32 old ATH.

Next week the price can be 500, then I would not buy any more, it starts to make sense to wait.

Yeah the money that could be invested with would have zero effect on a family or households livelihood. I've been feeling like this since I stuck my foot in the water at 142.50cad/btc / 450cad for a total 3.17 btc ... I suppose I could just buy with half the investment at the current market price and leave the other at a 266 floor buy, if we don't see any corrections or flash crashes perhaps buy in if the price holds for a couple days or maybe towards thursday. I feel like the action comes before people won't be able to get fiat transfer from banks over the weekends.

I felt pretty certain once we broke 200 and held for a couple days we would see another rally towards the old ATH of 266 when the rally would take place I was obviously unsure of, I was pegging 300 closer to December on the early side so I guess mid to late nov to break the ATH made sense all in all.



10. Post 3507438 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: thoughtfan on November 07, 2013, 09:49:44 AM
back to 304.81!

308!

310. Time for another beer.

311! Have another beer  Cheesy
312! ... and another!
313..another?



11. Post 3507463 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Quote from: thoughtfan on November 07, 2013, 09:51:55 AM

Gox led this time though.  China appears to have calmed down.  Are those buying on gox sticking their necks out for the axe?
315 those knecks are long cause it hit 316 typing this



12. Post 3507487 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

OK to THE moon.. it hit 320 out of the blue there.. gox necks are so long



13. Post 3507782 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

Looks like the Chinese are leading again in price.



14. Post 3517570 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

338 New ATH Cheesy

1300 in fiat headed to an exchange.. probably wont be there till monday.. Hope a correction shows up monday Sad



15. Post 3517706 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

well its dipping a little on gox. oh there it goes 325



16. Post 3525762 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

My Money hits my exchange monday - tuesday my guess... Show me the corrections Cheesy



17. Post 3527223 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.21h):

nearly halfway to 2600.. oh lardddddddddd



18. Post 3538039 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 10, 2013, 08:35:03 AM
Panic some more, please. It is so fun to watch Smiley


What we are seeing now was not so hard to predict:

Flashcrash alert.

The rest of the week may be choppy since we are already so much higher than last week. The weekly gains tend to normalize, and I would not be surprised to see Sunday at around 280-300 like we are now.

Retest of previous ATH from the above in the form of flashcrash is probably coming. I don't believe sub-250 territory will be visited except during the flashcrash.

Risk of a change in main trend is low.

Looking forward, it is better to buy now than wait. I would be wary if price goes 600+ in November or 700+ in December, since they may be overextended.

BUT

A real crash will have the following characteristic:
- price will have risen really high, really quickly over several weeks
- 100,000s of bitcoins are brought to the market by large manipulators that are sure of their ability to tip it over
- Some bitcoins will be sold to induce the forced closure of leveraged positions, resulting in a flashcrash
- Price will quickly bounce back to almost where it was
- The following day/night lots of bitcoins will be sold to destroy the market sentiment and start a panic
- Exchanges, information services, this forum, etc. will be ddosed, mass media publicity will be enormous and negative
- Price will plummet so that about 3 weeks' gains will be erased (about 75% from the high), although it will remain above the previous ATH (in this case $266) by a clear margin.

I won't go into details why it happens this way, but a big reason is that exchanges utterly lack liquidity and btc/usd-rate is therefore at a mercy of manipulators.

Fiat never cleared before friday. Probably Monday if I am lucky... otherwise the buy order sitting at 266-280 range would've been executed. Shakes Fist at slow fiat systems.



19. Post 3545731 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.22h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 11, 2013, 04:58:28 AM
This is why i am not buying now, Below is a google trends graph of the search term 'bitcoin' and ' bitcoins'. As we can see the search term bitcoin always increases  during times in which the value of bitcoin has increased. This is a fairly obvious and logical observation. This means that at the moment the inflated price is due to bubble frenzy like buying (caused by baidu) etc. The value in bitcoin is only justified when their isn't a bug peak in interest as this means that their isn;t a bubble phase going on. Therefore i believe it is foolish to buy now.



lol what this is super bullish info, look at the spike in bitcoin interest the past few days.  Cheesy

pretty soon everyone on earth have heard the word bitcoin, yet another mille stone

Same thing I said in the other thread you posted the bear stance in.

The value of bitcoin is higher with less interest and not due to a economic scare in the EU on bail ins.



20. Post 3567936 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

someone is adding some



21. Post 3567964 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Hmm to buy a couple coins now or wait till its 400 tomorrow.. hmm quite the decision too make.


ATH Cheesy 399



22. Post 3568035 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Feels nice, I was part of the buy order that broke the all time high for cavirtex. 368.90 Cheesy here's to 400 in cad soon Cheesy   Cool



23. Post 3568205 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: ajax3592 on November 13, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
BITCOINS are on fire !! The value has hit $400 omg. Cool down Chinese stash your black money somewhere else, damn it.

This is Gox led...



24. Post 3568488 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

I keep seeing buy lots of 220 coins, back to the ath



25. Post 3568855 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: barbs on November 13, 2013, 01:24:34 PM
He who dumps first wins!

Edit: love the 400/401 bid/ask walls of 150 each... face off.. probably the same guy


Looks like they're being munched



26. Post 3569032 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

the dam is breaking



27. Post 3569274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 13, 2013, 11:17:17 AM
Hmm to buy a couple coins now or wait till its 400 tomorrow.. hmm quite the decision too make.


ATH Cheesy 399

So I did get a couple coins 368.. hello 1.50 from 400 at CaVirtEx



28. Post 3575277 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

The joker was laughing as I turned my back to the screen



29. Post 3575496 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: strawbs on November 14, 2013, 12:59:11 AM
ok, so, as far as i can see you have been correct a grand total of 0 times! well done! whats your secret? why dont you give another fucking prediction you dumb cunt

Chill out.

+1
+2



30. Post 3577309 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

That 260 dump at 410 on g0x didnt seem to cause the beginning of a couple sell offs



31. Post 3577918 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

For atleast 10 minutes, Mtgox and CaVirtEx were like 5 dollars apart.. except usd...and cad

I guess the fees on CaVirtEx mean less quick reactions.. but avalanche like moments if they do.

 The 417.50 usd to 394cad still confuses me, but still Bitstamp and CaVirtEx being at near parity confuses me

edit as I type 404.90 cad to bitstamps 401.25usd



32. Post 3579425 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Stamp look like its about to start to roll again

Edit: so Gox decided it would rev its engine as well Cheesy



33. Post 3579713 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Gratz to teh new ATH(421.48) on Stamp... Merry 420




34. Post 3585055 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Coinseeker on November 14, 2013, 10:15:33 PM

What law in what country says that someone wholly or partly has to use bitcoin?

It's obvious you misunderstand the full definition of "fiat".  Fiat can be a government issued currency but it also is defined as a currency with no intrinsic value.  Bitcoin, like USD, only has value because we agree that it does.  Thus Bitcoin is simply another form of fiat currency.  Bitcoin though, is not debt based.  So thats good.

Also not centralized



35. Post 3589755 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Yesterday I sent some coins to my exchange fearing some volatility half way through the night I said fuck it, If I want more coins buy it with FIAT if it crashes, then I sent the coins back to safety. I think holding is what allows people to sleep Cheesy

Think gox is almost ready to post a new ATH Cheesy



36. Post 3589826 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

I won't lie, I wake up from my sleep with images of a chart showing a crash as the last thing I remember...then I check my phone and go back to bed lO.oL

In the end, I'm really just trying to avoid any traps and like a savvy gentlemen said, just have a portion of Fiat sitting on the sidelines ready to jump on a dip.



37. Post 3589934 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: MickeyT2008 on November 15, 2013, 10:47:45 AM

Me too, I never dream of a stable market, it's always a crash or to the moon.  This is much more likely to happen if I fall asleep with the Clark Moody page running nearby with the sound enabled
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I always have it on my TV lol, watch some tv shows then I leave it there.. in case I wanna wake up and check lol shake the mouse to wake it from sleep and pray.. However I've yet to dream of too the moon...I  am still too busy having other nightmares about not buying 1000 coins at 1 dollar.. or building a 2500 mining rig in 2010-11 eugh...



38. Post 3590183 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Hop on the express to the... MOON LOL

Every exchange but BTCCHINA has ATH posted for me atm lol



39. Post 3590667 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA

this is all I hear in my head everytime the ATH breaks



40. Post 3596727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

I swear people are afraid of corrections, someone is going to always want to take a profit here and there.

If you believe its undervalued there's no point in worrying our pretty little heads. If not feel free to surf the market

That being said it almost seems silly not to sell on CaVirtEx ( but I'm not gonna ) while there are still 420 buy orders up... cause gox is at 427 and stamp at 403 lol



41. Post 3596858 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on November 15, 2013, 11:35:13 PM
And here we go. My prediction; large sell off ($350) followed by a prop up the market buy ($400) then massive sell to shake the weak hands and get their coins cheap ($215)

Called this yesterday.
...  We didn't even go below $400 (yet?).  Don't you think it is a little early to start bear-boasting?

People have been telling me bubble, crash, hyped by media this or that, since I bought in at 142.50, fear is for the weak and bear hearted.



42. Post 3596932 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on November 15, 2013, 11:44:09 PM
Oh no someone let the silly bears out of their cage. Who's going to clean this mess up?

They've been right once even yet they never shut up. What's worse is they go around like they own the place. As I said earlier in this thread a stopped clock is right once a day. A bear is right once in a blue moon.



Fucking perma nervous, shaky bears.  Fucking rofl..

As bull I was wrong about 400... it was Nov. not Dec.. LOL



43. Post 3600440 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

I'd love for the train to derail or slow till my money hits the exchange next week but I already know it stops for nobody



44. Post 3600885 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

475 CaVirtEx wooo



45. Post 3610228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.23h):

So I'll get fiat in to my account, a week after my last deposit.. and the price has gone up ..130 dollars.. lool So glad I just went all in on that first purchase.



46. Post 3610795 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

I need to get some sleep, and I pray the train to the moon waits a week...



47. Post 3610890 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: explorer on November 17, 2013, 10:43:45 AM
Bitcoinity hasn't updated in MINUTES! might have to go to bed LOL!


+1 but this keeps me wanting to me awake.



48. Post 3611262 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 17, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
I need to get some sleep, and I pray the train to the moon waits a week...

I LIED, and yet again I am rewarded by ATH



49. Post 3611308 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: haightst on November 17, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
1000$ by the end of the year?

~end of the WEEK!!? LOL  Cool

gimmie bears, i got fiat in the workssssssss Wait for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee BEARS LOL



50. Post 3611395 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: Vycid on November 17, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
Now the question becomes:

Is this the vertical of the Sigmoid curve or are we ahead of it and due for a major correction like in April?

We are nowhere near the inflection point of the adoption curve. You will know we are getting close if you can order off of Amazon with Bitcoins.

+1 we will never sleep in the future.. not that I do now



51. Post 3619965 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on November 18, 2013, 05:54:43 AM
For the poll, what's few??

Like, few = 4, or 8, or 16?

I can totally see $1000 before 16 weeks pass, but I doubt itll occur within 3-4 or anything.

I'd hope so.. I want to get more money into bitcoins...kicking myself for putting too little in during Oct.

The same logic applied in my mind when I thought 1000 in June, at the rate were going I think 1000 is obtainable by the 22nd.. 86 dollars rise daily would achieve this.. Which I believe would still be a shrinking % of growth.



52. Post 3620064 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: nanobrain on November 18, 2013, 06:07:35 AM
World has gone crypto crazy!!

BTC touching 3600CNY again

LTC up 10% on BTCe

Great entertainment Grin

I was thinking of getting some ltc as well, recently.

I think we see 600/BTC before 6am if not at 6am est.



53. Post 3620268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: NO2squik on November 18, 2013, 06:48:22 AM
I missed the train last weekend when it exploded from $330. I thought it would go back down, but no. Oh well. I've been back in the game since $440, and I'm glad to see the price go up.

I'm pretty confident we'll make $800 by next weekend. Anyone else think so?

Edit: Bitcoinity just hit the ATH - $595. Now to count down (up) to $600.
600 on gox.. oh god
604 , then 600 again



54. Post 3620315 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: Mirsad on November 18, 2013, 06:55:27 AM
Entering bubblemode.
Will sell all the way up. Can't wait for the next crash. This is going to be epic.  Grin

enjoy having no coins ..unless your liquidating less than 20% otherwise enjoy profit taking.

I mean..you'd be like the xxxxx bear to claim a crash in impending and be wrong.. keep guessing you're bound to hit it like a lottery you can play for free.

Otherwise stop trying to induce panic for no other reason then to probably buy back at a lower price.



55. Post 3621531 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

China just rocket'd



56. Post 3622448 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

I just find it hilarious that the price goes near vert as I am getting my funds in order...boy do I feel silly for being slow.

I can hope for minor correction through out the week to buy in at, but I might end up just dollar cost avg'n to mitigate a crash or steady gain. However I don't really feel a crash per say as much as some corrections.



57. Post 3622522 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: maz on November 18, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
I just find it hilarious that the price goes near vert as I am getting my funds in order...boy do I feel silly for being slow.

I can hope for minor correction through out the week to buy in at, but I might end up just dollar cost avg'n to mitigate a crash or steady gain. However I don't really feel a crash per say as much as some corrections.

Don't feel bad mate, I'm the same. My funds cleared at $280 and I thought 'no chance, I'll buy when it crashes'  Roll Eyes

Money  hit at 300-320 waited till it hit 340 and said no time like the present with this kind of growth and my overall bullish feelings...the next transfer will not be so small.. Cheesy Also I wish I bought more at 142.50 cause I did get some lol, I will admit I should've bought twice while waiting for verification...the fee added by localbitcoins would've been justified in full LOL




58. Post 3622615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Just like if at 266 ATH april 2013, If I buy now at this ATH and it corrects I'd probably only buy more Cheesy

I'm confident with my valuations of btc in the long, and just continue to monitor the weaknesses and threats as they develop related to bitcoin.




59. Post 3631249 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

My mother called a 650 sell at random last night.. today at cavirtex at 3pm-4pm it hit and had I banked on the whim I would've made 1.8 btc .. sell 6.7 at 630 ( 20 dollars before the cap ) and buying back at 520 ( 20 dollars above the final crash point. But fuck it.. could've just droped 10 bucks and bear trapped me .. too the moon fiat transfers are sent Cheesy

300 is cheap coins to me.. probably only  the newer blood getting scared could take us that low after we make it to 1600 by Sunday.



60. Post 3631424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Mashrock on November 19, 2013, 12:00:25 AM
And who said i wouldnt make profit on my BFL paperweights Smiley



Nobody for certain could say you couldn't make profits..you just made less profit by not speculating and buying btc with the cash or holding your btc and seeing it appreciate. but good on you for helping the system and entrepreneurs .



61. Post 3634634 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: mvidetto on November 19, 2013, 05:39:01 AM
It seems like the US market is overbought already and following China.  Any downturn there and gg... $200 coins...

tell that to the two nearly 150+ price drops that bounced so hard and recovered.. I play a game of indoor soccer.. and missed it all.. makes me less worried overall and I didn't have to sit there wanting to send of coins to the exchange.. I personally agree you can make coins ( i would've made 1.8 btc on selling on the 3pm cavirtex dip from 650 - 500 ) but in the end I avoided getting bear trapped on a bad call or timing.

I prefer to just have fiat waiting to buy cheap coins ...for when the bears.. who call for crashes daily finally hit the free lotto they play.



62. Post 3634656 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: tHash on November 19, 2013, 05:54:08 AM
Everything I read is literally bullshit, still nobody can explain why we went from 3000 to 7000 in 26hs

There lives 1 billion chinese my bear friend. consider 0.0001% knows and buy bitcoin just to get rich quick. There lies the explanation to this mania.


yeah well that still doesn't explain why we went from 3000 to 7000 in 26hs, and also seems like the only thing you can do now in China with bitcoin is paying some cloud service...

why bitcoin, why not for example wow gold?

Why bitcoin?   Answer this, what is the max WoW gold that will ever be farmed?

wow gold would literally be the worst example for a similar currency but sure.. oh wait they can ban accounts, delete accounts, restore accounts that people claim the gold was stolen from.



63. Post 3636896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

seeing the markets come closer together from mtgox bitstamp and cavirtex



64. Post 3636909 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 19, 2013, 11:04:02 AM
seeing the markets come closer together from mtgox bitstamp and cavirtex


so then a correction to gox followed lol



65. Post 3637006 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on November 19, 2013, 11:11:49 AM
Oh look, its the jack hammer manipulation trick again, boing, boing, boing. Getting boring at this stage, maybe they'll come up with something new, too late already though and they aren't to good at innovation Smiley

Don't be so sure

holding + holding my breath

Nah, dumps starting off steady and getting steeper and steeper, sudden turn until it crests then rinse and repeat to match market harmonics.

EDIT: Stimulates panic and pushes the rate down while making the manipulator fatter and fatter.

Only if the market is Bearish.. We clearly see a hard floor.. gox has trouble getting down past 600, cause so many bulls who were late and pray for crashes got orders lined up down there, I would also speculate they speculate to go long Cheesy



66. Post 3637105 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Gox seems to have bears, or there chasing stamp nd virtex down.

I personally think it could be also alot of people thinking there going to see another 100-150 dollar corrections.. nd get to buy more cheap coins.. errbody wanna be a day trader.



67. Post 3637294 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 19, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
Oh look, its the jack hammer manipulation trick again, boing, boing, boing. Getting boring at this stage, maybe they'll come up with something new, too late already though and they aren't to good at innovation Smiley

Don't be so sure

holding + holding my breath

Nah, dumps starting off steady and getting steeper and steeper, sudden turn until it crests then rinse and repeat to match market harmonics.

EDIT: Stimulates panic and pushes the rate down while making the manipulator fatter and fatter.

Only if the market is Bearish.. We clearly see a hard floor.. gox has trouble getting down past 600, cause so many bulls who were late and pray for crashes got orders lined up down there, I would also speculate they speculate to go long Cheesy

anyone feel that floor?



68. Post 3637339 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: tarmi on November 19, 2013, 11:58:34 AM
Lol - just opened up a browser that I haven't used for a couple days which had it's Bitcoinity tabs frozen in time - thought "Shit - Bitstamp down to $525!!"

Don't see it happening, either.

Well, hold tight, you will probably see $525 soon enough.


Yeah, I'm just hoping.  What do you think will happen if it goes below $532?


395 $.  

if we go below 390~395 > 266.

still think 600 is the floor, I am hold to that till it gets broken, opposite of a bear screaming the incoming x,xx or low 200s lol



69. Post 3637377 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Rampion on November 19, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
Lol - just opened up a browser that I haven't used for a couple days which had it's Bitcoinity tabs frozen in time - thought "Shit - Bitstamp down to $525!!"

Don't see it happening, either.

Well, hold tight, you will probably see $525 soon enough.


Yeah, I'm just hoping.  What do you think will happen if it goes below $532?


395 $.  

if we go below 390~395 > 266.

still think 600 is the floor, I am hold to that till it gets broken, opposite of a bear screaming the incoming x,xx or low 200s lol

We just visited $566 on Stamp, didn't you realize?

I should've clarified I was talking gox, stamp is rarely at parity with gox, still pretty far apart atm I'd expect roughly 30-40 dollars closer



70. Post 3637450 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: San1ty on November 19, 2013, 12:09:56 PM
Argh, Who am I kidding... I love bears! 2 Whole BTC's for free thanks to this lovely volatility.

If I didn't have to sell my entire position to earn that in the volatility today I would've probably traded at the highs, 2 good chance on cavirtex today.

Oh well a lil hookie pookie means more coins when the transfer roll through hopefully I am part of the uptrend



71. Post 3637462 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: tarmi on November 19, 2013, 12:13:28 PM

I should've clarified I was talking gox, stamp is rarely at parity with gox, still pretty far apart atm I'd expect roughly 30-40 dollars closer



I admire your bravery.

I find it difficult to understand why people keep their money on Gox.

I am at cavirtex but in reality, I watch gox cause I tend to believe it to pull or push cavirtex more often than other exchanges





72. Post 3637525 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: BitPirate on November 19, 2013, 12:18:08 PM
The drop in China will be spectacular when it comes. They're really betting against gravity.

Let see if gox can stay above 600 :d



73. Post 3637627 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

omg 600 and that solid 263 coin sell. Cheap coin soon .. will it bounce or noooooooo 599 Sad



74. Post 3637652 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: wopwop on November 19, 2013, 12:36:00 PM
BEAR TRAP

BUY NOW!! LAST CHANCE TO BUY AT SALE

it's so sad that my money is in transitttttttt stupid holding feature of FIAT

also I guess the 1/20 gut feelings to sell @ 600-650 range at 6 am was right.. healthy buy back even now  at 550.. now gox and cavirtex are parity .. but will stamp pull them both down



75. Post 3637915 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

661 on gox already.. and 594 on stamp, wowzies I've watched the train leave and come back.. only thing I could've done was sell high and buy low.. but oh well .. another day.



76. Post 3638682 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

I started with the Buy and Hold, Really think 1k was my first profit taking threshold.. ( I thought we got close to it in june 2014.. LOL ) so though I would've made a nice lil .5-2 bitcoins on volatility trading ( not panic selling ) I Just feel overall I avoided any bear traps by just leaving them in my wallet. I was even gonna fiddle with .2 of a btc but I thought I'll just wait for the fiat to transfer and build a big enough stack to have 10-20% aside to buy bear coins.



77. Post 3638846 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: Nikolaj06 on November 19, 2013, 02:29:58 PM
If we stabilize at $600ish by the end of the day, we should be back at $650+ by tomorrow.



Nice paint line :b protip: make it thinner xD

What would that accomplish?

A line that's not 50$ thick, it's just an easy way to make it look nicer...

a decent eye can see it at max represents 25 dollars of thickness

Edit: I do believe in the chart



78. Post 3654070 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 20, 2013, 06:25:10 PM
Bitcoin is appreciating at 1140% per year. The trendline price for November is $328 and December $404. After several months of significantly behind the trend, we did a spectacular overshoot to $1100/$900/$750 across main exchanges. Immediately followed an hourly-term bear market, characterized by (mainly) lower highs and lower lows. We are now 40 hours after the pop.

Currently the price is at double the trendtarget. You can stretch a rubber band a lot, but when you release, it starts to contract with force. Force must be applied to reverse the course and stretch it back to 3, 4 or more times the trend. The natural tendency of the rubber band is to contract to the trendline and even 25%-40% below it.

Since this bubble developed so rapidly, the trend had no time to catch up or adjust. Therefore, despite my earlier predictions that the next crash bottom will be $500ish (double the pre-bubble ATH), I will have to adjust the downside target to about $300. This is 33% below December trendline, and also higher than the previous ATH, which will act as support. There are currently not many supports between that and the new high. These will be formed as we grind down.

In my observation, the forum is overextended and cannot buy the price up. "Others" will act according to time-tested statistical principles (refer to 4/2013 bubble pop for details). There will be a bear market lasting for weeks. Many in this forum will not acknowledge it even after it is over Smiley It will not be a huge event, and absolutely nothing to care about if you are a long-term holder. But traders do well to understand that sometimes even fiat has its day.

I believe that none of the exchanges surpasses yesterday's high values ($1000/$750/$640) set about 24 hours ago, today or during the remainder of the year, (except Bitstamp at max).

I believe that none of the exchanges surpasses the current values ($700/$630/$600) during the rest of the week, (except for the following hours).

I give 75% probability to the scenario.

Otherwise the common wisdom does not hold, and 2010 is back.

are we not already above 600?

I was stuck in the buy and hold methodology which is what I am going to stick to, but I am gonna play with 20% of my stack by watching the volume and percentage change.

I may sell at 600-620 at cavirtex just to see if it repeats a dip into the 400s overnight.

I didn't feel seasoned or prepared enough to have taken advantage of the recent corrections.. would've equated to 1k with the proper call, if not more 650 was my gut high sell point... and my stack is small enough that I could've filled the orders nedeed there and then down in the 400-500 range



79. Post 3654649 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

praying the 2-3 days is 2 days for this damned bill payment transfer. BAHhhhhh these dumps have taunted me so hard lol



80. Post 3655048 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: Wekkel on November 20, 2013, 07:51:53 PM
Currency of the future. My payment of xx:18 still has 0 confirmations at xx:51. Sorry I could not dump you sooner, my coins

lulz i've been paying zero tx fees.. and getting my coins 6/6 in about an hr..from when I send them, I dunno why it got defaulted.. to 0.0 but it did and I've corrected this.



81. Post 3657354 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

what the gox. I sit down to beep beep beep as it surges 25-30 bucks high



82. Post 3657512 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: tHash on November 20, 2013, 11:56:05 PM
what the gox. I sit down to beep beep beep as it surges 25-30 bucks high

Seems to be quite the push to paint the tape green for the day . . .
Indeed push up my cavirtex again plz Cheesy I feel like the process is up to 650 and back to 450-500 as a low overnight


and all I can think is damn you 3 day processing time on a bill payment hold...I might have to try Vault of Satoshi out sooner then later...I can stomach a cad to usd exchange if the payment is processed and updated to trade with within about 3 hours Cheesy... Missed 400 dollars coins like 4 times now..



83. Post 3659831 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Money hits my exchange.. all the bears are in the caves.. No 400 dollars coins for lil' ol me?



84. Post 3659936 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

For some unknown reason I feel as if I could get cheap coins around 4am. to stay up and watch if the orders get filled or not? Actually have fiat now.. makes me extra ancy lol

Dam I just read that Germany endorsed BTC...not sure if they mean the government itself is accepting it as a currency but.. damn that sounds bullish as phuck....

Perhaps one coin at 605 doesn't hurt lol



85. Post 3659991 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 21, 2013, 06:27:16 AM
Ye woke up and couldnt resist. This consolidation is taking too long and with all the massive bids, its looking too bullish.
If this is a bull trap, well played bears. Ill take my loss and go back in.

CHOO CHOO MF

Did you check the bids before or after I took 25% off of BTC China orderbook? (Yes, feels like a boss  Cool )

"Look at the Chinese buying so many BTC".

Ahem.

China is now about 65% higher than a week ago. If the ones there that actually have bitcoins, decide to take profits, it can and should fall to <3000. Some of the buying in the west in the last 24 hours has gone to keep the lid on China price and there are still arbitrage opportunities left.

It is important that China goes down in daily chart.



So I should wait till they finish lunch this afternoon, and then wait for the dump to follow Cheesy



86. Post 3660477 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

I feel I should buy because I don't yet have what I want in btc holdings ( and yes I am going long with perhaps a lil playing of the Peaks and Valleys ) but I've waited half the time since my chance to grab a coin at 581cad + fees ..so I might as well wait out the next 1-2hrs till I think a bear may stirr due to calmer night waters over North America



87. Post 3660705 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Bit the bullet and bought at CaVirtEx after Gox shot up another 25



88. Post 3660770 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

How long do you guys think this rally last... we gonna rubber band a lil more if/or when some drops coins at 4-5am est again.. I am kind've feeling the rest of Nov as a Bearish month.



89. Post 3660791 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: ag@th0s on November 21, 2013, 08:28:08 AM
Money hits my exchange
All the bears are in the caves
No 400 dollars coins for lil' ol me?

Haiku!  (well, almost) Smiley

I give you license to perfect it Cheesy ...considering it was born out of my angst of being a day late to grab the cheaper coins.. It sure hurt buying the last on at 619 + fees after seeing the dips over the past week.. Ahh buy and hold.. buy and hold.. remind me to never let the fiat well run dry on the exchanges.. oh shit I gotta make another bill payment before its too late lol



90. Post 3660813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: windjc on November 21, 2013, 08:29:55 AM
So are you saying with all these bids, someone could still crash the market? During the last correction, it was over once we met with these solid bidwalls. What do you think theres some of those guys from the old gox days waiting to dump 100k btc loads all at once?

Did the walls look like this in april before crashing to 50?

How many bitcoins do you have? You don't need to tell me. How much do you know about bitcoin, compared to the ones that have 10x less? Yes, you tend to have a very different knowledge and mindset than they do.

Now is the difficult part. How do the people think that have more bitcoins than you do, let's say 10x more? Don't they think differently than you? What are the implications?

I have a certain number of bitcoins and think a certain way. I extrapolate that the guys above me know even more and better than I do. If they have figured out that this is a good time to have a breather, they will execute their will. If I am wrong, I will eat my losses ($2 million in bank is a such a shame to have). Bitcoin is a managed currency.

--Of course the walls etc. have predictive value, but the difference is: you accept them, I erect them. The actual game is, whether (or: who of the) manipulators can increase their coincount, and how to keep the price appreciating such that it preserves bitcoin's long term potential to replace fiat.

Its more than a bit arrogant to equate # of bitcoins with knowledge or intelligence in trading. It makes you sound small for suggesting it.

More big money is coming into this market and the amount of coins someone needs to "manipulate" it is becoming larger and larger.

Go ahead, dump 10k coins right now. Lets see where we are in 24 hours. I would suggest we would be at the same level or maybe higher.

You want to risk 10k+ coins to see if you can move the market down a few dollars from your average cost of coin sold? Ha. Ok, be my guest.

Unless there are a room full of 50k+ bitcoin owners strategizing together, then I doubt there is very much successful manipulation going on.

I mean, you were on here earlier today preaching bear to try to drive down the price and everyone saw right through your motivations right away.

But, lets do an open experiment. Choose an exchange. Dump 10k coins and see what you can buy them back for.  I'd love to see this case study. It certainly would shut everyone the hell up for a while about manipulation and "whale power."

to be honest.. seems like your goading him into cheap coins for all. I like your style.



91. Post 3660864 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: macsga on November 21, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
How long do you guys think this rally last... we gonna rubber band a lil more if/or when some drops coins at 4-5am est again.. I am kind've feeling the rest of Nov as a Bearish month.

You never know... it's Bitcoin world. Wink

Just seeing what others are speculating towards.. I myself felt by 4am-5am est the rubber banding would ensue with an adequate run up...just out of the mentality left by the profits made in the recent dips. Not saying I think people with coins are still feeling greedy but scorned noobs like myself might over react and assume its time to sell to take adv of a incoming dip.. doesn't help btc charts is not letting me see whatsup in volume and percentage change figures.



92. Post 3660905 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: TERA on November 21, 2013, 08:43:03 AM
This might for 6 months be known as the "the chance you had to sell at the top of that bulltrap" but I can't bring myself to do it...

lol the quality of this video reminds me of my outlook on bitcoin in 2010-2011.. terrible.. but I think that dam rubberband man.. never know when he's gonna snap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my0fQzecfsA



93. Post 3660934 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: rpietila on November 21, 2013, 08:43:24 AM
Its more than a bit arrogant to equate # of bitcoins with knowledge or intelligence in trading. It makes you sound small for suggesting it.

More big money is coming into this market and the amount of coins someone needs to "manipulate" it is becoming larger and larger.

Go ahead, dump 10k coins right now. Lets see where we are in 24 hours. I would suggest we would be at the same level or maybe higher.

You want to risk 10k+ coins to see if you can move the market down a few dollars from your average cost of coin sold? Ha. Ok, be my guest.

Unless there are a room full of 50k+ bitcoin owners strategizing together, then I doubt there is very much successful manipulation going on.

I mean, you were on here earlier today preaching bear to try to drive down the price and everyone saw right through your motivations right away.

But, lets do an open experiment. Choose an exchange. Dump 10k coins and see what you can buy them back for.  I'd love to see this case study. It certainly would shut everyone the hell up for a while about manipulation and "whale power."

It is not intelligence but the resources and tools available for trading:

With BTC10 trading capital you can pick opportunities that the elephants cannot. But the elephants can use their BTC1,000 trading capital to manipulate the bid/ask volumes, erect small walls and do dumps. As for the large holders (BTC100,000), the market is at their mercy when it is ripe for a correction, because they can do whatever they want. Only rule is that when they relinguish coins, the average price has to be higher than the buyback.

For this reason, based on the trend analysis, this was a good chance to go bearish. Even if I am wrong initially, sitting tight on this fiat position is all right because I know that bitcoins are a tad high atm, and only after 4 months they "should" be worth this much.

There may be collusion between some large owners, I don't know. But the same effect follows even if everybody just acts individually, trying to outsmart others.

I think BTC100,000 manipulates this market more now than ever, because of the exchange situation... But I don't have such money to play with. Otherwise I think you are right.

I generally agree with that sentiment.. but regarding where I bolded your words... is that in part due to the large price variance when one exchange runs up quicker ?, I am not surprised cavirtex is lagging behind stamp and gox right now.. but it saddens me since ..CAD is worth less than U.S and cavirtex ( despite I guess volume ) should be higher priced than Gox Or Stamp.



94. Post 3661036 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

CaVirtEx is just watching.. never seen it be so patient.. moves about 10% of gox's rally damned low volume.



95. Post 3661076 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Mirsad on November 21, 2013, 09:04:08 AM
Oh boy, China is awakening and if Gox breaks through the $700 barrier, we will be getting VERY close to confirming no dead cat bounce.


China is long awake. It's 10am in western europe. So it's late afternoon in china.

I think it's a dead cat bounce. China is struggling -> before it was 200-300$ ahead of GOX, now the gap is smaller then 50$.

I am calling this the hour of power ..4-5am ... I can go wake my cat up she's sleeping in the bed I shall use never again.



96. Post 3661197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Erdogan on November 21, 2013, 09:21:28 AM
Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

The only people who bought in 2011 are people who understand Bitcoin.
Again my point is take yourself to a normal person thinking strategy. Okay let me spell it out for you.
You now only have a high school diploma. You work at a factory, walmart, you're a waiter bartender whatever.
You have 3 kids, a tiny house, and a minivan.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
You took your savings ($10,000 or so) you put it into this Bitcoin thing.
Now you have $5000 worth of Bitcoin/savings.
You think they are still holding and hoping?
You think they haven't sold and are screaming and cryin at the top of their lungs I lost half of my life savings Bitcoin is the devil to everyone they know?

This is why it is bad. Because the people investing in bubble rises are people who think they will get rich quick (99% of the population which is why lottery is the most profitable thing for states) and when "healthy corrections" happen it's devastating to the reputation to Bitcoin and the bigger they get and the harder they fall the more negative news and I promise you the 99% don't know, care or believe in BTC technology they believe in their dollar and you Bitcoin took it from them.

So what?


First rule of investing.. don't invest what you can't lose...these people get little sympathy for panic sells. Not that I would wish panic sells on anyone.



97. Post 3662400 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

250 coin buy on stamp dang.. early reaction to CNY jump you think?



98. Post 3663067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

feels turbulent . Canadian traders seem to be asleep



99. Post 3663407 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 21, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
lmao this it crazy SELL

did I stay up all night for cheap coins I could've gotten in the morning !!!



100. Post 3663837 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

there goes 720



101. Post 3664103 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: meh32123 on November 21, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
Find it rather troubling that BTCChina is not on rally mode, the last hours that is.

The night time is upon them.. not everyone stays up days at a time.. or perhaps a crash of sleeping all at the same time.



102. Post 3664627 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

changed trade alert  threshold too 50 btc, lets me know of inc dumps asap lol. Almost bit on that last one.



103. Post 3669541 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 21, 2013, 04:20:32 PM
changed trade alert  threshold too 50 btc, lets me know of inc dumps asap lol. Almost bit on that last one.

this allowed me to sleep through the day. Woke up to price rises only woo woo



104. Post 3671167 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: hmmmstrange on November 22, 2013, 04:46:26 AM
Since it is clear we are likely to have more then one bubble a year now, I think it is prudent that we start naming them. Appending the year as the prefix of the bubble just doesn't cut it anymore.

where is this second bubble you speak of?



105. Post 3671238 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: tHash on November 22, 2013, 05:04:15 AM
Since it is clear we are likely to have more then one bubble a year now, I think it is prudent that we start naming them. Appending the year as the prefix of the bubble just doesn't cut it anymore.

where is this second bubble you speak of?


I think we just call overshoot/corrections "bubbles" now.   Even April looks nothing like a bubble if you look at the long term charts.

I wanted to start with an insult but that serves zero purpose..crash in april.. from 266 to 50 will say.. = .188 = it shrunk too 18.8% of its value. The recent correction this week from 900 to 414 = .46 = it shrunk by 46% or half its value.. The april crash would have been much larger in impact on peoples holdings.                                
I realize I am basing this on opinion and some reading.. but.. you invest 10k in april you lost 82% of what you invested that same 10k last week you only lost 44%.



106. Post 3671348 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: tHash on November 22, 2013, 05:21:55 AM
Since it is clear we are likely to have more then one bubble a year now, I think it is prudent that we start naming them. Appending the year as the prefix of the bubble just doesn't cut it anymore.

where is this second bubble you speak of?


I think we just call overshoot/corrections "bubbles" now.   Even April looks nothing like a bubble if you look at the long term charts.

I wanted to start with an insult but that serves zero purpose..crash in april.. from 266 to 50 will say.. = .188 = it shrunk too 18.8% of its value. The recent correction this week from 900 to 414 = .46 = it shrunk by 46% or half its value.. The april crash would have been a much larger in impact on people holdings.                                
I realize I am basing this on opinion and some reading.. but.. you invest 10k in april you lost 82% of what you invested that same 10k last week you only lost 44%.



Not sure why you would insult . . . That is not cool at all.   I was actually supporting your comment, saying we did not have a bubble pop at all.

Agreed hence I didn't but I felt I deserved to be punished for thinking it in the first place.

My comments wasn't trying to relate equating to buy and hold vs day trading ..it was just buying at a peak, thinking its going to the moon and witnessing a crash or corrections.. April was way more severe, not saying that 46%  isn't gonna hurt like a punch to the groin also everyone at the 266 is in the money now anyway pointed out in the comments above..and those who lost 44% at the high of last week are seeing the percentage of change reverse towards a positive number.

I am just saying if we'd experienced an April like crash... we'd be in ...the 160s I also think with a crash comes extreme caution in the markets.. which as of today were seeing confidence.

I just hate hearing/seeing the world B _ _ _ _ _and C _ _ _ _ every ten seconds Cheesy



107. Post 3671381 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

and I just saw 400coins get sold at 700 in lots of 200 ,100 and 70 lol @gox



108. Post 3674271 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

422 coin buy on stamp.. wooo that guy is feeling bullish



109. Post 3674287 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: MoreFun on November 22, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
422 coin buy on stamp.. wooo that guy is feeling bullish

1k+. There will be ATH at stamp in a seconds.

yar just got the back end of it scrolling by.. over taking gox almost, while stamps at it.



110. Post 3674305 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: libity on November 22, 2013, 01:18:16 PM
China seems a bit more uncertain about reaching for the stars again than Stamp or Gox.

have you converted.. the value of cny they are trading at.. they are already in the 800usd in China



111. Post 3674904 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Mirsad on November 22, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
Bitamp is higher than Gox, that is usually bullish, isn't it?

Does it mean that the value of being stuck with fiat on gox is higher than the value of fiat on Bitstamp?

It only means that the fiat arrived really late @ stamp
A few are still waiting (transferred more then a week ago).


I'll wait till something happens with BTCChina. Hopefully enough bulls push the price above BTCChina levels and some clever whales cash out with big arbitrage profits.
Panic selling starts -> whales can buy cheap goins again -> double win

Buying now is more risky than fucking a street hoker without a condom.

However in the 600s they still felt barebackable ... lol



112. Post 3674928 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Been so long since I saw an ATH its like a crack addiction

edit..and I was about to get some sleep ahahhaha. But now Ill watch gox rev back on this movement



113. Post 3675174 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: proudhon on November 22, 2013, 02:54:47 PM


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343037.0

and they like the new name Bullstamp



114. Post 3675235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

and CaVirtEx is down
 Up



115. Post 3675343 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on November 22, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
Still with 7 transactions per second being the hard cap limit, I will always have a big bear in me telling me this will never grow out to compete with credit card companies. And also this issue can't be fixed.

That's not an issue it's a feature!

I think we're at or approaching 1 tx a second.. so we need 7x as many were getting now before we start to worry about that.



116. Post 3675776 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on November 22, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
China is not following. The arbitrage is quickly closing. What happens next is that arbitrageurs buy back in China and sell the equivalent in Bitstamp. At least I will do that Smiley
Did you sell @ over 1100 @ BTCChina?

Do you buy back in China when Stamp/Gox are at the same level or before (say 770 bitstamp - 820 BTCChina)?

Arbitrage is best when the price differential is the highest. I got more than 50%.

Looking at 6 month chart, China has equalled Bitstamp about half of the time. I see no reason to pay any premium this way.

It is a little bit tricky to do it calmly, because in my case there is overall position management, swing trading and arbitrage all working together. It is like a requirement to think with 3 different brains simultaneously.

Nice work, I know you're in multiple exchanges too. And you're doing this manually? If so, might I suggest heading towards something a bit more automated, at some point-- I can't imagine trying to manually handle arb across the exchanges. However, it sounds like a good idea for me to cancel my arb strategy as I see it dissolving in front of my eyes. Not like you need advice on making dough.

Say you have.. x fiat in x exchange with the lowest rate per fiat/btc .. at y exchange the price is highest per fiat/btc you sell and transfer fiat on home.. you re enter market in x exchange i'd assume at the same time or before and arbitrage is complete? your gonna wait on the fiat to wire over from y but to your bank.. but your positions have increased in fiat and btc. Or so my sleepless logic believes.



117. Post 3675824 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Richy_T on November 22, 2013, 04:07:56 PM

Yeah, but there's smaller risks in bitcoin than in lottery. All decision in life have risks, important thing is to try to learn them. Good way of not learning these risks is to obey some principle like "don't ever invest loaned money" and not thinking why?

Better to learn from the mistakes of others than your own.

this one time my friend tried to navigate through trees on a gt snow racer.. lets just say.. concussion + lost of teeth... has never been an issue of mine.



118. Post 3675880 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: Boxman90 on November 22, 2013, 04:13:38 PM

Boxman90, this might help ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZp7UGgBR0I

Not sure if your intention is to argue for or against me, but that exactly shows why the 7 tps limit is by design (thus should not be removed to ensure decentralization, another key point in bitcoin design) and makes it impossible for it to compete with credit card companies.

I speculate the argument goes no where. But hypothesize that.. the bears are sitting in the tree line whale spotting Cheesy



119. Post 3675944 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

stamps forming a limp one



120. Post 3683289 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: nanobrain on November 23, 2013, 07:20:46 AM
Ahhh...there's that spike I could feel.

Went out and did some weeding...always a sure thing the market will move while I'm away.

So, educated madames et monsieurs....where do we take profits before this trend reverses?


somewhere between 1700 and 2200

Mwahhahah Cheesy

Then I looked at BTCWisdom and saw 6000CNY hoving in to view...that was Mr Reptile's prediction about 2200USD...1700 probably seems more realistic.
What fun Wink

lets see if it can fight through some of the profit taking insurance points on the way back to 1000



121. Post 3684012 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

watching mtgox say no to the drops and the bears frown again



122. Post 3694528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

CaVirtEx kills me.. no1 has a weak hand lol.. price stay at 792. for three hours..thought it should be a lil higher than the other exchanges today it decides to stay above them for the majority of the evening lol



123. Post 3694576 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: Shak on November 24, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Wow damn, trying not to panic sell. Bought 17.5 Coins at 766$ 2-3 days ago. I´m nervous to lose my 13.5k$

do you really believe that bitcoin goes down? why have you then invested in the first place?
two possibilities:
a) bitcoin becomes accepted as an underlying principle of money-transfer in a few years
b) bitcoin fails

i don't care what the usd-btc exchange rate does in the meantime. i bought (and will continue to buy) because i believe in a)

Don't panic sell, ever. I heard a horror story of someone buying at 850 selling at 450 then buying at 720 again.



124. Post 3694726 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: John999 on November 24, 2013, 09:49:01 AM
It seems pretty clear that the trend has reversed.

what charts are you looking at .. to me it seems undecided.

I am just wanting to see CaVirtEx resume its bloody 30-50 dollars less than gox or stamp trend. Being above or at parity with them is driving me insane.. LOL I want my cheap coins all the time llol




125. Post 3695968 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

could I become a short term yogi bear Cheesy .. Cavirtex holding above the usual 20-30 dollar lag has me poised.. to take advantage of the higher price than usual.



126. Post 3696254 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: TERA on November 24, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
The parabolic speculative trendline is diverging from the linear support trendline. Each correction becomes deeper and more violent with more coins. I think the next correction will be the crash. It will be a "correction" from some parabolic speculative $1700 back to the supporting trendline which will be at $650, and go down to $500 due to momentum. The magnitude of the correction will make it the crash.

I will have no regrets about selling half my coins around 1500. 1200% gain is enough.

good lord man.. these kind of posts become self fulfilling prophecies ( i pray ).. don't think I know you're already at 1499.99 : D

however.. the time frame is an important part of the call.. I dunno if it will just bounce around 800-820 with the odd dip into the 750s all Sunday.. or challenge new highs or lows, I guess this depends on the markets feel.. I dunno if the new money that made it in last week or ( I get processed bill payments from Friday click over by 12:05am Monday the latest) is gonna be bullish.. and after reading horror stories of buy ins at 850.. followed by panic sells at 450 and re buys at 720.. speak volumes to the possibility of dangerous amounts volatility to new weak hands .

also whats healthier for Bitcoin downtrend to 550.. or uptrend past 1k?



127. Post 3696478 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

love seeing 320 coins get chomped up



128. Post 3696998 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

yum another 207+ coin much on gox



129. Post 3697399 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

go to lay down and gox just powers up lOL



130. Post 3702045 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Today is kinda as I said earlier around 6am...undecided... this is the kinda of volatility that yesterday i was able to make a couple measly bucks. would've been more but CaVirtEx doesn't react for hours now to stamp or gox changes...even in which they reacted only really after btc china moved negatively. I think the bulls are feeling the market but expect some cheaper coins to become available in the daily trenches..



131. Post 3702175 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on November 24, 2013, 11:41:30 PM
Stamp now higher than Gox for quite some time. It's indeed a new paradigm.  Shocked

Happened multiple times, it is just less volatile at stamp.. they don't get spooked out of coins as easily as gox or aren't up for as much manipulation. But Gox will over take sooner or later most likely during the next up trend.



132. Post 3702598 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

I can't imagine 100-200 but.. at least it would feel like a time machine allowing me to finally buy more at 140 range Cheesy



133. Post 3702755 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: beaconpcguru on November 25, 2013, 12:51:34 AM
Somebody is using a lot of coin to keep the price suppressed on Gox. Once all the money on the sideline finally starts buying in, I don't see any stoping it (worth stopping). Buy in before the "suppressor" completes his plan. All signs point up.

Where is there alot of coins "suppressing" the price?  I'm not seeing it...

where have you been.. we've been rollercoastering from 820-790 ( as low as 750 yesterday) people took profit.. followed by a small panic.. followed by the re buy from strong hands..



134. Post 3704232 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

alot of buying support on gox. Cheesy



135. Post 3704295 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 25, 2013, 04:44:35 AM
you know, I think this 800ish area (and this being bitcoin, by "ish" I mean 700-900) is starting to look, dare I say, "mature"

if I was new money flowing in tomorrow, after transfers on last weeks exposure, I might look at this chart and say "yep, don' wanna miss this train"

just sayin'

thats how I felt when I bought in at 142 Cheesy so I'd agree : D the feeling is the important factor not per say the actual xxxfiat/btc price



136. Post 3704460 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

..nothing has changed for 48hrs.. this is the same movement we saw yesterday lol.. kiddie coaster continues on course.



137. Post 3705794 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

I guess logically speaking the dump would be best timed following new money entering...panic sell. I think that is what happened last time at 850...I think too the moon literally plays out to the new blood as .. 5 digits by jan or zero by december.. lol



138. Post 3706006 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

stamps feeling bullish.. decided the waters had become to calm.



139. Post 3706611 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: BitPirate on November 25, 2013, 10:17:47 AM

They said : "bitcoin went too high too fast, big bubble danger, stay away"

That's pretty bearish, especially if you believe China has been leading this huge rally to near $1k.  Hmm...not going to say it's time to sell but this certainly isn't a good entry point.  

Bitcoin is currently not sustained by people who are influenced by mainstream media. Even in China. So I don't see this as bearish, it only reflects where we are at right now. The media is right to warn people, but the intelligent person knows that the media more or less doesn't have a clue.


Is this a serious comment?  Where do you think new money learns about Bitcoin?  This certainly isn't your earliest adopters buying BTC up to $900.  Roll Eyes

The vast majority of our friends (not techies or by any means "early adopters") were not interested in investing at $60, they were bored of us and our Bitcoin rambling.

Now that we're at $800 and Bitcoin is in the media, they are desperate to buy. If they all do, we will shoot up to $2000 or $3000 -- I absolutely agree with the bulls. However, be careful what you wish for. We may well crash in a blaze of glory, and most will be burned. TBH I have much higher hopes for bitcoin. Something that appreciates more sensibly  year-on-year is much more valuable to all of us. $3000+ by the end of next year, for example would be very exciting. $500 and restrictive BTC regulation in China -- not so much.



A certain someone called a 2300 top with a 500-600 range bottom might be lower can't remember the exact numbers.. I can't know if we're overbought but it feels that way a bit, this kiddie coaster as I call it is growing in to a calmer period since..october, with a fairly large but stable window of 770-850...I think a combination of arbitrage account setups and new money coming soon has the market holding its breath..



140. Post 3707006 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

6am est.. if they had bill payments like I did last week.. the money was there Sunday or Monday at 12:05am est



141. Post 3707567 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: fluidjax on November 25, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
@rpietila, back on board, or still waiting for cheaper coins?

He's made it clear when he plans to re-enter..why not just let him say he's re-entering himself if he deviated from his plan which I doubt he would do without some major revelation.






142. Post 3707764 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.28h):

Quote from: fluidjax on November 25, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
@rpietila, back on board, or still waiting for cheaper coins?
He's made it clear when he plans to re-enter..why not just let him say he's re-entering himself if he deviated from his plan which I doubt he would do without some major revelation.
And you should believe him; why exactly? Wink

He did give up advance warning of his Saturday night sell off, which I'm equating with that well planned multi-exchange 10K sell off.



I don't think he's gonna time stamp it for us... but he's not all out.. so why is it people try to troll him as if he doesn't have the required BtC to reap the rewards of to the moon scenarios.





143. Post 3713932 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

oh wow.. there is the new money..

been about 2 days since I saw a wall of 200 coins growing on the buy side like that lool it greew too 1000 coins as I typed this edit.



144. Post 3714028 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Rampion on November 25, 2013, 11:05:44 PM
Big money wants in, don't be fooled by the big fish who patiently waits for cheaper coins.

This is no 2011, the stakes are much higher this time.

lots of coins were bought... but it means nothing still...there have been small lift offs since Friday into Monday no after burn though.

I will agree there was a lot of volume, in that quick window.. but if its new money.. and this doesn't cause lift off.. imagine those weak hands.. with 850 coins Cheesy

After reading that catastrophic 750k inheritance disaster story on reddit,..where not only did he get raped on the initial asset sale.. he then goes and buys at 850.. sells at 500 or something.. either way lost about 75k in a trade.

These kind of people see bitcoin and go herp derp I'll triple my money.. and then they try to day trade like there financial super stars.

I think what we need to see is sub 700 to break the cheap coins at 750-850 range, after that it could be either enough fuel to cause an after burn or what I'd like to see a test of the support levels. sub 700



145. Post 3714107 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Rampion on November 25, 2013, 11:14:52 PM
Big money wants in, don't be fooled by the big fish who patiently waits for cheaper coins.

This is no 2011, the stakes are much higher this time.

lots of coins were bought... but it means nothing still...there have bene small lifts off since Friday into Monday no after burn though.

I will agree there was a lot of volume in that quick window.. but if its new money.. and this doesn't cause lift off.. imagine those weak hands.. with 850 coins Cheesy

After reading that catastrophic 750k inheritance disaster story on reddit,..where not only did he get raped on the initial asset sale.. he then goes and buys at 850.. sells at 500 or something.. either way lost about 75k in a trade.

These kind of people see bitcoin and go herp derp I'll triple my money.. and then they try to day trade like there financial super stars.

You will see more of the heard into Bitcoin, and they will just bring in liquidity.

and huge volatility.. if you can shake em so easily.. these could be FUD .. but at the same time I know its perfectly feasible to believe that there were many people who bought at 850 with to the moon playing in their heads.. and freaked out when they thought the correction was to the floor ( of 0$ ).

started with a small buy at 140 coins.. and bought all the way up in to the 600s... I've yet to feel the panic or the thoughts of its value going to nothing.. but I did almost get caught up with selling high and buying back in lower.



146. Post 3714140 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Ivanhoe on November 25, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Big money wants in, don't be fooled by the big fish who patiently waits for cheaper coins.

This is no 2011, the stakes are much higher this time.

lots of coins were bought... but it means nothing still...there have bene small lifts off since Friday into Monday no after burn though.

I will agree there was a lot of volume in that quick window.. but if its new money.. and this doesn't cause lift off.. imagine those weak hands.. with 850 coins Cheesy

After reading that catastrophic 750k inheritance disaster story on reddit,..where not only did he get raped on the initial asset sale.. he then goes and buys at 850.. sells at 500 or something.. either way lost about 75k in a trade.

These kind of people see bitcoin and go herp derp I'll triple my money.. and then they try to day trade like there financial super stars.
That's just a minority. I think the majority is smart enough to do proper research first and then buy and hold.

even if he's a minority.. I aimed to get about 10k in to BTC.. this guy has done zero research my guess...and is investing ..easily 10-20 times as much as me.. this skews the weighting hugely..



147. Post 3714171 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: maz on November 25, 2013, 11:22:36 PM
Funny to watch bear and bull fight it out both in the market and in this thread.  Smiley


Also that probably no one in this thread is taking part in the real bull/bear fight.

Semi related...I enjoy watching this is as well. I think I see the fight take place in this sense. CaVirtEx used to match and follow Gox so closely, if not Stamp.. I swear CaVirtEx currently has lead balls.. Gox spent hours at 750 usd think it was Saturday evening and though its low volume and the weekend CaVirtEx was just watching ... saying I know your coming back to 800 see you soon. lol the most panic equated to a small portion of a btc selling for 750 Sat night( I guessed 740 shucks).

Similarly the buy up by gox.. didnt phase Virt at all no1 from there thought that was a liftoff sign.. Stamp followed suit a bit but not as much 



148. Post 3714361 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: beetcoin on November 25, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
Yet I have to see the big drop to 300-500 that so many oldtimers here seem to be expecting.


it reached late 400's after the all-time high though... maybe not in the past 2 or 3 days, but it definitely happened.

and can repeat.. if the market dictates it



149. Post 3714440 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: bassclef on November 25, 2013, 11:55:42 PM
Yet I have to see the big drop to 300-500 that so many oldtimers here seem to be expecting.


With so many expecting it, it may never happen.

think your logic lends itself to either side...



150. Post 3716529 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Nightowlace on November 26, 2013, 04:07:32 AM
gox wont take us to a rally.  china is key factor

I don't want a rally. I prefer slow, consistent move upwards. 

You must be lost.  Welcome to Bitcoin.

Slow, consistent, those words don't exist in bitcoin.
today 850 has been the lovely consistent buy number.. another huge one just went by 421 @ 850



151. Post 3716557 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Gatekeeper on November 26, 2013, 04:14:15 AM
gox above china in $  Shocked

Think Gox is waving a red flag at the china bull...but its still napping... like the others...errbody is being patient.



152. Post 3716598 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Not enough to cause an afterburn.. I say they kiddie coaster continues overnight..but I say this so I can be wrong..



153. Post 3716859 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: mccorvic on November 26, 2013, 04:54:13 AM
Hmm, we're getting some fuel in the rocket. I'm kinda surprised. Could get interesting really fast.

seems poised to decided up or down.. think 875 will be the breaking point..someone post a chart with resistance levels Cheesy



154. Post 3716907 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Oh dear.. so close to the 875 point Cheesy and .. lol



155. Post 3717066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

these small uptrends that don't lift off scare me...but I think that's because bitcoin has been steady raising since I bought in...I feel as if a dump from a whale is waiting in the depths...at the same time.. I could see the switch to a slower uptrend with some volatility.

Restarting my computer and taking a bio break...this would be the time its shits the bed or goes to the moon.



156. Post 3717267 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: BitChick on November 26, 2013, 05:54:10 AM
these small uptrends that don't lift off scare me...but I think that's because bitcoin has been steady raising since I bought in...I feel as if a dump from a whale is waiting in the depths...at the same time.. I could see the switch to a slower uptrend with some volatility.

Restarting my computer and taking a bio break...this would be the time its shits the bed or goes to the moon.

Haven't the whales already been dumping?  I think they are not getting the same results that they used to get though so perhaps they will slow down a bit.  Also, as time goes on they will sell coin and the whales will be holding less to dump I would think.

I've seen higher buy order groupings then I have seen sell orders.. I personally believe it was a group profit taking.. everytime we run up to 875-900.

I agree with many that Bitcoin does what it wants..but what it wants is in reality what the majority (lets say a btc is a vote in the sense of control) of the market wants...these larger buys aren't effecting price the way they were a week or two ago imo. Its not standing pat...I think of it as a feeling out period still imo...as I believe the past plays apart in what unfurls but this is a very different present and who knows what future bitcoin holds for us.



157. Post 3717510 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

broke the 870.. on a couple of bigger buys.. will it rally, nobody knows Cheesy  lol



158. Post 3718272 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: gizmoh on November 26, 2013, 08:25:47 AM
2k wall at 800. that whale is really trying to push up the price  Shocked

900 or at 800, I'd assume you could lure people down with cheap coins the disappear in the rush on the way down



159. Post 3718379 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: beetcoin on November 26, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
don't you guys hate this feeling of nervousness, waiting by your computer checking a ticker to see if your investment has reached the point of 0? it gets tiresome, but it's money.. i MUST HAVE.

I sit here waiting for it to go to the moon, as of late though I've been trying to watch a crash occur(called for so often). I was playing indoor soccer the last time it corrected.

I also just set the price alarms on my comp via bitcoinity and wake up to the alarms : D its better then no sleep



160. Post 3718602 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

..25dollars above the high of last week...has you certain the trains leaving eh? Welp time to sell my house :X



161. Post 3718639 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Shak on November 26, 2013, 09:13:01 AM
some large buyings at bitstamp, but still pretty walled by that 1500 btc guy

as long as he remains sitting there, bitstamp won't follow gox

whales creating arb lol



162. Post 3718853 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: seriouscoin on November 26, 2013, 09:38:52 AM
some large buyings at bitstamp, but still pretty walled by that 1500 btc guy

as long as he remains sitting there, bitstamp won't follow gox

whales creating arb lol

You know, we kind of decided that $900 is the cap for now.

what is this? did you sneak out of rehab? Their medication didnt help you much huh?

You're delusional that you're a "whale" again? Next time when your boss tell you to clean his Lamborghini, atleast find a nice suit to take pics next to it.

Last time you checked in rehab after ppl laughed at you and your so called "bling". This time i think you should go to Tibet for mediation. No drugs can cure your soul.
 
When people start arguing or insulting each other on here that's often an indicator that the market is stable enough for me to safely ignore it for a while and take my dog for a walk instead.

Its not an insult, you guys need to research about this reptile dude b4 even bother reading his post. He was a laughing stock. Then he admitted that he needed help and checked into rehab. None of that is an insult. I'm shocked seeing him back and the same old "i'm loaded, i'm dumping coins" BS.

I truly hope him well.


Funny way of showing it, Mr. PSA. As always people gotta make their own decisions...but especially on the internet.. taking someones word without validating it on your own with your own methods is kinda asking for something to fudge up.



163. Post 3719251 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

what will Tuesday bring.. new fiat.. Or new lows.. I can't make my mind up..which leaves me at btc just chilling Cheesy



164. Post 3719436 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

On a serious note..are people actually hedging in to LTC enough so that it has raised it 3-4 dollars over the past weekend of consolidation in btc.




165. Post 3723546 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Nemesis on November 26, 2013, 04:47:13 PM
I think we will take a break today at around 860-870. Going too fast only on Gox isnt a good thing.

Gotta wait for the Chinese and Bistamp to catch up.

890 as a i live an breathe



166. Post 3725514 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: gandhibt on November 26, 2013, 07:27:10 PM
Nice to be back, I did a little day trip to beautiful small mountain town called Ronda. So seems like we are going higher and rpietila still try's to talk crash here =) Well let bears be bears. Nice to see some real buying, been a bit quiet lately. When we break 1000 USD, there will be major media coverage. $999 is maybe a bit expensive while $1001 is cheap coins.

One thing rpietila said today:

"You know, we kind of decided that $900 is the cap for now".

'We decided...'?

Hmmm.... It's held so far.

So rpietila sells all hes coins at 900 while bigger whales laugh their asses off Grin

would it sting if a sell off ensued right now lol



167. Post 3725763 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on November 26, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
People buy 169 coins at 946$  Shocked

they fear the train is leaving without them.



168. Post 3726295 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: OldGeek on November 26, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Someone please tell me why Bitstamp is holding back.

My guess is they don't trust the whales at gox. But in general its been one leader.. followed by the other exchanges that allow for 10-20% in price differential at times.

All in all..I would chalk it up to caution



169. Post 3727788 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

I hope we see the 2300, and crash to 500 scenario...I want moar coins Cheesy



170. Post 3727994 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

waiting to see how many people lined up sell order at 990-999, thinking they're more clever then the next fox. However a whale could be waiting for a huge flood of coins to buy at that point.



171. Post 3728280 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

With Bitcoin...I always keep it in mind that it could all change in the blink of an eye.. that's why I got these nifty devices to keep my eyelids forced open ...I kid I kid or do I?



172. Post 3731349 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: revans on November 27, 2013, 04:21:12 AM
Speculative interest is all that is driving Bitcoin. Well that and Satoshi dice.

Context :
Of course, but the activity of non speculators is not sufficient to support current valuation or anything even close to it; even more so now that Silk Road has gone which did give Bitcoin some unique  utility in terms of accessing that market.

Yup. You were right weren't you. That valuation could not be sustained  Smiley.


It can't. The market can certainly remain irrational for a good while yet, but longer term all these currencies are headed straight back to whence they came: zero.

got no coins?



173. Post 3732090 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: BitcoinAshley on November 27, 2013, 06:18:09 AM
Price isn't moving because everyone's busy pumping alt-coins.
 Grin
they're actually dumping them as we speak.. 2 dollar down trend in ltc and nvc.. either way.. I'm really looking forward to staying up all night to watch the 1k hit



174. Post 3733390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Rampion on November 27, 2013, 08:59:18 AM
Be cheerful guys, we just came out from a parabolic growth phase unharmed and without a bear market following a pop. On the contrary, we resumed a healthy upswing at a sustainable pace.

Now we need the infrastructure to catch up. Bitstamp and Gox cannot manage world exposure. I never thought I would say this, but best thing would be a big player buying Gox to build a serious and solid exchange.

how can I be cheerful..I want cheaper coins Cheesy lol

no..lie I got my transfer the day after it shoots up a $180 from .. the 750-800 range.. Le Sad.. 2 nd time in a row Cheesy ..I should probably make the bill payment now. Cheesy



175. Post 3733528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

900 coins at.... oh wow someone wants some money



176. Post 3733613 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 27, 2013, 09:18:12 AM
900 coins at.... oh wow someone wants some money

1000 @ 979 now

in to 500 at 978.5



177. Post 3733664 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 27, 2013, 09:27:47 AM
900 coins at.... oh wow someone wants some money

1000 @ 979 now

in to 500 at 978.5

followed by a dump to the 960s



178. Post 3734117 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

wall wars indeed lol.. ending it downwards. if a whale would only dump so I could get some cheaper coins. reward me for staring blankly at screens



179. Post 3734193 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

Quote from: alexeft on November 27, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
reward me for staring blankly at screens

Absolutely not!!! You will risk ie buy now!!! Invest in us! Invest in yourself!  Smiley

Personally I'd rather buy at 1000gox.. then buy right now at 970 gox.. or the cavirtex equiv of 910 or so



180. Post 3734252 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

sma's crossing eh


think the 950 bid wall will support us Cheesy or slip out like a rug



181. Post 3735110 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

so I felt my inner bull..and bear.. so I bought a coin Cheesy couldn't hurt Cheesy



182. Post 3737147 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.29h):

welcome to the moon boys and girls next stop..Uranus!



183. Post 3742458 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

700 sell wall at 1039.. were minting fiat millionaires.. lol  (I know its 1000x1000.. perhaps the wall was bigger before I looked)

I am dumb..its a buy wall...



184. Post 3742507 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 27, 2013, 10:27:21 AM
reward me for staring blankly at screens

Absolutely not!!! You will risk ie buy now!!! Invest in us! Invest in yourself!  Smiley

Personally I'd rather buy at 1000gox.. then buy right now at 970 gox.. or the cavirtex equiv of 910 or so

Alexeft.. I hope you see this today..I bought at 908 or so.. (920cad fees included) I dwelled on it for an hr after your post.. read some more bear bull reasoning.. and met half way ..and grabbed a coin. Had to take my grandparents to an appointment today..and the market corrected a bit during that time frame,but my buy orders down in the 890cad range were filled Cheesy second coin I owe to you.

A tip of my hat to you sir.



185. Post 3742552 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: gandhibt on November 27, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
700 sell wall at 1039.. were minting fiat millionaires.. lol  (I know its 1000x1000.. perhaps the wall was bigger before I looked)

Funny how much people want to invest in fiat. Not sure if that's so good investment... Grin

A lot of them just assume fiat and btc will exists together for a time being. Not everyone is tech savvy and has a cool son or grandson ( cousins etc, the techno savvy family member or friend) and this will alienate some for a while but, I mean anyone born after me probably knows as much as I do at this point ( 87' - aka 26 ).

Also If I had a bunch.. I think I'd be inclined to take profits and buy a Lambo LOOL Cheesy or a hockey rink.. not sure which just yet, the choices a Canadian has to make.. as both are only useful in opposite seasons( it'd be both if I had 10000btc) lol.

Silly me Gandhibt...it was a buy wall..apparently only the silly would sell their coins Cheesy



186. Post 3742625 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: kurious on November 27, 2013, 09:29:39 PM
Hows about:

   Bitcoin         = Bits   = 1 unit
   cents   = cBits   = 0.01 units
   millis or mills      = mBits   = 0.001 units
   micros or mics      = μBits   = 0.000001 units
   Satoshi or sats            = 0.00000001 units
   nanos or nans   = nBits   = 0.000000001 units (for when 1 Bitcoin = 1 Mega dollar or BTC1 = M$1 = $1,000,000)

This has flawless logic, but I still wonder about that coffee being 'two mills' and we probably need the 'bit' in there to keep it connected to Bitcoin.

So 'millibit', or back to 'embit' for me..

I like Bitcoin for full units (shortened to "coins" in common use), mBit for 0.001 units (shortened to "bits"), and Satoshi for 0.00000001 units (same term for common use)

+1

how about mB would be called bit/bits when B is bitcoin/bitcoins, "I paid just two bits for this coffee!"


Get a vote put up?

Nominees: 'bit' / 'embit' / 'milli'

We need to have a term - and imagine that coffee shop increasing the price in USD and putting it down in BTC often enough for people to realise what inflation REALLY means!

I'd vote for it to start with bit-cent. Seems easier for people to confuse it with bits bytes etc,.. its like a combo of new and old. but I don't need terms to understand the relative breakdown of its value.. I understand the sheeple understand easier with said terms.



187. Post 3742683 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: alexeft on November 27, 2013, 09:34:17 PM
reward me for staring blankly at screens

Absolutely not!!! You will risk ie buy now!!! Invest in us! Invest in yourself!  Smiley

Personally I'd rather buy at 1000gox.. then buy right now at 970 gox.. or the cavirtex equiv of 910 or so

Alexeft.. I hope you see this today..I bought at 908 or so.. (920cad fees included) I dwelled on it for an hr after your post.. read some more bear bull reasoning.. and met half way ..and grabbed a coin. Had to take my grandparents to an appointment today..and the market corrected a bit during that time frame,but my buy orders down in the 890cad range were filled Cheesy second coin I owe to you.

A tip of my hat to you sir.

 Smiley

You don't owe me anything. I just realized today that when using deflationary currency, if I produce something and its value is represented in that currency, you win too, since the price of the currency goes up. It's vice versa too!

In fact, I should be thanking you, so, thank you sir, you are really kind!  Smiley

Hey well I'll tell my kids or family the story behind my bitcoin stash. How one fateful cold Nov. night (while in my warm basement Cheesy) a kind gentlemen/women helped me Invest in myself Cheesy



188. Post 3743391 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: dwdoc on November 27, 2013, 09:54:46 PM


Hey well I'll tell my kids or family the story behind my bitcoin stash. How one fateful cold Nov. night (while in my warm basement Cheesy) a kind gentlemen/women helped me Invest in myself Cheesy

Call it a "satoshi stash." It has a better ring to it.

Deal.

 



189. Post 3743538 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: humanitee on November 27, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
I can't tell if these are pumps or the greatest bear traps of all time.

IMO its a growing knowledge base...my guess though.




190. Post 3743648 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: 600watt on November 27, 2013, 10:49:51 PM
I can't tell if these are pumps or the greatest bear traps of all time.

summer 2013 was the greatest bear trap of all time.

Not buying coins before Oct. makes me feel like I was stuck in there with the bears.



191. Post 3744147 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

i think were at like 8 qu-bit (quantum bit? ) computing.. that lasts hours..and im not sure if thats just data storage. To say were going to hear news of a 32000 qubit computer any time soon seems unlikely.. I believe that was the power required to crack the sha 256...however to some this was more likely then bitcoin being a 1000$usd lol



192. Post 3744209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Started when coins were worth a 140.. now the rallies are about 140 : D



193. Post 3747012 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: MahaRamana on November 28, 2013, 04:53:58 AM
will we see $40 ltc soon?

It just hit 40 USD right now
41



194. Post 3750162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Stamp just hopped on the choo choo



195. Post 3750353 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

solid buy rally on gox again 9.22 from 1k on staMP ..ohh 4.51 away for a second



196. Post 3750665 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: accord01 on November 28, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
You people never read the second line I posted... Come on; did you? Roll Eyes

So who is selling, 5 digits?


can sell a coin and cover investments at that point.. I prolly would sell one.. cause then next doubling would be 20k.. than 40k as to when I would sell 5% of my leftover holdings

Leggo stamp, 999 Cheesy



197. Post 3750772 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: kurious on November 28, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
The wall attack on Stamp is starting - a wall is building at 999.5 in front of the 1K ask wall...

Let battle commence Smiley

munched



198. Post 3752090 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: maz on November 28, 2013, 01:51:18 PM
LTC dropping fast

Goat cashing out? Cheesy

Think someone cashed out but. it got supported pretty quickly.



199. Post 3753124 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: DougTanner on November 28, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
LTC at nearly $50..

- no infrastructure (imagine if btc-e up and vanished)
- accepted literally nowhere
- no considerable advantage over btc (otherwise btc would just incorporate it, considering how many people have a vested interest in btc)


This will not end well!  Way outside normal btc/ltc ratio.    Cheesy

Ok, back to btc...

Didn't we hear the same stuff about BTC some time ago?

Yes, and then the price crashed from $30 down to $2 while we waited for infrastructure and merchants.

so.. sell at 50.. buy at 2.. and become a ltc whale in 2 years? that's what you just alluded to I think.



200. Post 3753241 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: Coinseeker on November 28, 2013, 03:25:54 PM
so.. sell at 50.. buy at 2.. and become a ltc whale in 2 years? that's what you just alluded to I think.
Or...just take advantage of crypto currencies beautiful ability to move between currencies and ride the LTC train to $100+ on the back of BTC's success.  Crazy thought I know.  Utilizing the technology...who would have thunk.   Huh


Before all this chatter I bought some ltc/nmc/ftc just to see what they do with what I expect and agree with you is them being on BTC's success. All in all we shall see what unfolds Cheesy lol



201. Post 3753430 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: gandhibt on November 28, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
I'm saying to everybody that now is the time to buy bitcoins, this train is going to at least 2000+ USD and maybe even 3000+ USD before next crash. And it's unlikely that we will see <500 coins ever again, maybe we even don't go below 1000 after next crash.

after my dental appointment.. I shall probably sink the last fiat on my exchange into btc. Then as you say..( 6666.66 cny in the background caught my eye lol )...at the least I can sell on the way down in a crash if I was so inclined to day trade on us overbuying into the 2-5k range over the next hmm I'd say 2 months.



202. Post 3753451 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Gox going for 1.2k and cavirtex is still at 990cad  oh lordy.



203. Post 3753465 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on November 28, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Gox going for 1.2k and cavirtex is still at 990cad  oh lordy.

gone and past lol



204. Post 3758846 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

hehehe agreed that Gox's blackfriday lack of fees are getting the coasters going



205. Post 3758944 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: barbs on November 28, 2013, 11:14:39 PM
how did i just make 250$ from 2btc trading !?!?

0% gox trade? the roller coasters of new blood or old blood selling in to new blood was fun to watch

time to spread fud for once.. well not really. But I am enjoying watching FTC pulled up on the back of BTC...it was 0.00062btc/ftc...and now its .00086 I find this number rather unreal : D sell order at 0.001 Cheesy cause my heart remains with bitcoins but I am starting to like the differential aspects of coins..

and go go gox coaster



206. Post 3758989 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: johnblaze on November 28, 2013, 11:21:11 PM

it is already 0% fees for all people? (also europe) ?

wait what? since when is gox 0%?

black friday event Cheesy



207. Post 3759370 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Dare I say fontas is pumping and dumping btc lol..

jeez who ever sold high is a winner ..CaVirtEx this is why I love you at this moment.. many noobs getting caught for sure trying to time this right



208. Post 3759661 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: oroboras on November 29, 2013, 12:25:30 AM
Well, my 0.76 has become 0.71 - like I said, even with 0% fees, I'll still end up with squat. It always, without fail, goes the opposite to what I do.
Maybe I should get a bot and set up to Crazy Ivan....

..well you should probably be re entering now.. if you sold in the 1100+ range.. and you'd be up. Remember watch those candle sticks.. you aiming to sell on a high part of  green and a re-enter on a low part of a red.



209. Post 3762814 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on November 29, 2013, 07:26:11 AM
Am I the only one that is seeing that coins on much more sparse on Mtgox than on Stamp?  If this is true, it would suggest that in the future it is going to be impossible for Stamp to keep up with Gox.

So much has been talked about regarding the fiat "stuck" in Gox and how people would theoretically have to buy bitcoin to get their currency out. However, the other thing is that who wants to sell their coins there if you can't get the money out? If most people with coins who need the money quickly would prefer to use Bitstamp for these obvious reasons, there is just going to be ALOT more bitcoins available on Bitstamp

We are seeing this in the last week. The spread has been over $200 for no particularly good reason.

Its a little crazy that with all these different exchanges, there are such different situations at each one that change the price dramatically and that most people are not (or can not) taking advantage of it (arbitrage).

I can't wait until there is parity in the exchange prices. Although I really question if that will happen anytime soon.

There's almost no money on Virtex. last = US$910 or so. ground to a standstill. Its taking so long to get money in that sells are overwhelming available $.
I'll fix that tomorrow  Wink

sounds good to me



210. Post 3780587 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on November 30, 2013, 02:10:01 PM
I wonder if the 0% trading fees at the largest exchanges (china & gox) is contributing to this misleading stability.

wouldn't it be more likely to cause instability greater swing trade gains



211. Post 3780816 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: notme on November 30, 2013, 03:19:36 PM
I wonder if the 0% trading fees at the largest exchanges (china & gox) is contributing to this misleading stability.

wouldn't it be more likely to cause instability greater swing trade gains


Can you explain by what mechanism that could possibly work?  My experience and several academic papers would disagree with you.

For example: http://m.rfs.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/11/3389.short

Quote
Competition among trading platforms has considerably reduced trading fees in stock markets. We show that this evolution is not necessarily beneficial to investors. Although they increase gains from trade when a trade happens, lower trading costs can induce investors to post limit orders with a smaller execution probability. In this case, gains from trade are realized less frequently and investors can be worse off.

In other words, lower fees leads to a full book and thus more stability.

I thought because it was a break..from them not necessarily permanently 0% trading fees you'd see more variance.. pretty much what we saw when the bots weren't configured for it, Thursday.

Gox that is



212. Post 3789662 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: OldGeek on December 01, 2013, 05:49:06 AM
Yep.  And that small wall at 1150 got eaten.

yar the dump is strong tonight



213. Post 3789670 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 01, 2013, 05:49:25 AM
Yep.  And that small wall at 1150 got eaten.

yar the dump is strong tonight

is this a crash Cheesy in the making.. lol trying to count the coins Cheesy sold lol



214. Post 3789692 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: OldGeek on December 01, 2013, 05:50:40 AM
Bear fest sure enough.

cavirtex doesn't really allow me to profit on this 50 dollar swings Sad had one sell.. for the entire sell off so far.



215. Post 3789712 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: OldGeek on December 01, 2013, 05:52:49 AM
Didn't see all of them but there was a 1000 sell in there for sure.

3300 by the volume bar



216. Post 3789725 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: windjc on December 01, 2013, 05:55:08 AM
The Chinese obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

from the charts they bounced first..couple more bulls there than I thought


and cavirtex has dropped a wopping 15 dollars.. I need it to be a parity to even risk a trade lOOL



217. Post 3789750 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: OldGeek on December 01, 2013, 05:57:11 AM
DISASTER STRIKES!

72 whole hours of gains wiped out!

Stop loss @ 10 below your top saves the day sometimes.

Yeah.  Panic is recommended.  Sell quick.

and you just saw..the buy support reap all the rewards..gogo whale.. also could tell that was happening almost as soon as I saw an uptrend in china lol



218. Post 3789773 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: notme on November 30, 2013, 03:34:19 PM
I wonder if the 0% trading fees at the largest exchanges (china & gox) is contributing to this misleading stability.

wouldn't it be more likely to cause instability greater swing trade gains


Can you explain by what mechanism that could possibly work?  My experience and several academic papers would disagree with you.

For example: http://m.rfs.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/11/3389.short

Quote
Competition among trading platforms has considerably reduced trading fees in stock markets. We show that this evolution is not necessarily beneficial to investors. Although they increase gains from trade when a trade happens, lower trading costs can induce investors to post limit orders with a smaller execution probability. In this case, gains from trade are realized less frequently and investors can be worse off.

In other words, lower fees leads to a full book and thus more stability.

I thought because it was a break..from them not necessarily permanently 0% trading fees you'd see more variance.. pretty much what we saw when the bots weren't configured for it, Thursday.

Gox that is
I wasn't watching much on Thursday because I live in the US (Thanksgiving holliday).  However, in the past temporary 0 fees on gox has generally led to more stability.

So if I understand correctly, you are saying that people will rush to trade since the fees will be going back up?  There may be some truth to that, but the book will still be thicker, especially close to the price.

here is that volatility I spoke of.. I think a whale played that nicely..  drops it into the 10xx and then it slows down starts to rebound in china.. and buy support all the way back to 1151 on gox. However not sure about the volume relation of sells to buy in that swing



219. Post 3790005 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

my bad decision was not selling at 1200 at a certain exchange while buying back in at 980 on another lol.. Oh wellz. buy and hold is so much less stress Cheesy arbitrage later in the week.



220. Post 3790180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

interesting times upon us



221. Post 3790268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: pera on December 01, 2013, 07:04:53 AM
wtf now that I bought back again everybody turned bear?  Cry

once you pull the trigger and you got out high and back in lower.. you know you dont have to worry Cheesy .. just be glad you did  make some money. If that was the case.



222. Post 3790304 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

I had to remain bullish to recoop on my 0.03 losses to ltc and nmc AHAHAH Cheesy so thank I hope to see the bull wake to cheaper coins and push us and past gold/parity for at least a week.



223. Post 3790553 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 01, 2013, 07:21:24 AM
I had to remain bullish to recoop on my 0.03 losses to ltc and nmc AHAHAH Cheesy so thank I hope to see the bull wake to cheaper coins and push us and past gold/parity for at least a week.

do it Cheesy do it Cheesy wake up and prosper Cheesy lol somewhere in the world



224. Post 3792300 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

the bears scream of a crash because.. its the only thing they can do to help it.. dont got any coins to sell they already sold em all llool



225. Post 3792427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on December 01, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
Are we in panic mode again? Smiley

Why panic we we're at lower numbers nearer to 1am est.. but now we're round the same spot after a support buy followed by what I think is profit taking. I some how feel its people who want to take profit utilizing the weekend and this growing idea that institutional money doesn't flow on weekends. They get money out if it drops to a point where they can also buy back Cheesy



226. Post 3792497 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

real sharks never sleep.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark#Sleep

I think this applies here.. institutional money is like a Rhino.. that runs during the week Cheesy

as the north american bear takes a peak out of the caves.. the north american bull kicks up dust



227. Post 3792677 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 01, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
real sharks never sleep.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark#Sleep

I think this applies here.. institutional money is like a Rhino.. that runs during the week Cheesy

as the north american bear takes a peak out of the caves.. the north american bull kicks up dust

its getting dusty



228. Post 3792874 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

everyday is crucial, we only have so many Cheesy



229. Post 3792944 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

forming of a triple bottom?

looks like a camel on clark moody



230. Post 3792973 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: accord01 on December 01, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
forming of a triple bottom?

looks like a camel on clark moody

yep... get ready next week, this was a great correction.  also, on stamp and maybe gox, there is no money left, and China is hesitant, waiting on a signal.  Once again next week, I predict a major bounce plus rally, with China leading the way mid week.

I remained pessimistic in the 700-800 range .. feeling we needed a correction.. however.. the support for a week or 2-4 days at a time after rallies has the chance to be the new trend. I imagine this all catching fire with more investments from institutions as well as those who might just put money in for the "the big crash" who end up succumbing to their inner bull and grabbing in on these dips Cheesy



231. Post 3793261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

pretty sure gox lead this lead into the upper 1250s but what thats just what I remember



232. Post 3793284 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

wonder what happens at 900 Cheesy lol most epic bear trap of the day (sunday) coming or.. the big crash lol



233. Post 3793399 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: SnowMonkey_CG on December 01, 2013, 07:12:28 PM
Well we're seeing some action.  Anybody panic sold yet?

yes but the trading worth is worth it Cheesy. not the whole stash.. however I would've made more




234. Post 3793434 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

sadly in my panic to get back in a little to early I missed out on about 25-50 dollars extra.. damn system was lagging like a mofo



235. Post 3809523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Leggo stamp kick gox in the ass and start up the holiday rally



236. Post 3809640 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: Vycid on December 03, 2013, 05:57:44 PM


Recently, Bitcoin market cap (i.e. total value of all Bitcoins issued) reached the $2 billion mark, surpassing small countries like Liberia and Guinea.
This should have been obvious.



isn't it $20 billion?
It is $12 billion.

so many statements. So few explanations!

I get $21 billion from 21million BTCs worth ~1000 each, thus 21 billion  . . .   yawn

edit: OK, I see

There are about 12M BTC currently in circulation.

Worries me that people are looking for info, and they might run into these articles full of swiss cheese sized holes.



237. Post 3810003 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

are you seeing the wall eater at stamp?

1300 coins eh.. 1.3 million+ gad damn



238. Post 3818766 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

The best thing about the recent stability.. it lets me sleep regular hours.. I woke up to catch the possible beginning of the daily rally Cheesy,  lets go



239. Post 3819209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.31h):

Quote from: SnowMonkey_CG on December 04, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
Gox just touched 1.2 USD/mBTC...

lets go, eat that wall 1200 wall



240. Post 3834410 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Vigil on December 05, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
It would be nice if we could trade this without having to depend on Gox's "Blazzingly Fast" Midas Engine.

damn i woke to the sound of dumps. and missed it still shitttttttt



241. Post 3834520 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Vigil on December 05, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
It would be nice if we could trade this without having to depend on Gox's "Blazzingly Fast" Midas Engine.

damn i woke to the sound of dumps. and missed it still shitttttttt
Even had you been awake to place orders you still would have missed it because Gox was running minutes behind. so, everytime you placed a buy the price had already moved far away from your bid.
on a cad exchange. Cheesy i would've been able to sell if I woke up an hr ago Cheesy



242. Post 3834619 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: explorer on December 05, 2013, 11:45:24 AM
It would be nice if we could trade this without having to depend on Gox's "Blazzingly Fast" Midas Engine.

damn i woke to the sound of dumps. and missed it still shitttttttt
Even had you been awake to place orders you still would have missed it because Gox was running minutes behind. so, everytime you placed a buy the price had already moved far away from your bid.
on a cad exchange. Cheesy i would've been able to sell if I woke up an hr ago Cheesy

I caught it @ virtex, but it was a bit nerve wracking with the delays and glitchy performance. I got all safely back in, price came back up, and then my latest deposit cleared LOL.  

The one night I don't set price alarms for sub 1100 or 1000..



243. Post 3834763 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: maz on December 05, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
This is just getting started guys, stop suffering from myopia.

When I step back, by 20/20 vision sees triangles forming. Are you suggesting that they should see the price dropping further?

Yes, I'd say theres a relatively small percentage of the bitcoin world actually seen this crash and news so far. Lets even say 50%. When they log on and see their purchases at 1050+ are now sub 1000, there could be even larger sell off's.

But the news has already updated to say it's not such bad news. With that, I can't see latecomers panic selling when the charts also look like they might be bottoming.

Dude stop reading what some bull manipulates the news to say as fact. It's bad news full stop. China's banning financial institutions from handling bitcoin transactions, if you see that as good news for Chinese exchanges or for bitcoin in China alone, your deluded.

They banned financial institutions and the like from themselves trading bitcoins as I've understood it.. don't think its a blanket ban.



244. Post 3834786 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

All I see is a bear trap forming Cheesy but am pretty bummed I missed the opt to sell high buy low..



245. Post 3834793 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: maz on December 05, 2013, 12:04:34 PM
This is just getting started guys, stop suffering from myopia.

When I step back, by 20/20 vision sees triangles forming. Are you suggesting that they should see the price dropping further?

Yes, I'd say theres a relatively small percentage of the bitcoin world actually seen this crash and news so far. Lets even say 50%. When they log on and see their purchases at 1050+ are now sub 1000, there could be even larger sell off's.

But the news has already updated to say it's not such bad news. With that, I can't see latecomers panic selling when the charts also look like they might be bottoming.

Dude stop reading what some bull manipulates the news to say as fact. It's bad news full stop. China's banning financial institutions from handling bitcoin transactions, if you see that as good news for Chinese exchanges or for bitcoin in China alone, your deluded.

"At this stage, all financial institutions and payment institutions" - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5hzl/my_human_translation_of_the_china_regulation/

Do you actually inform yourself before posting? I take this as "We'll first check how we can tax the shit out of this"

The important thing is that the Chinese government have eventually 'showed their hand', which we have all been waiting for. And it's not good news.
What by following suit with North America.. lol @ chicken little.



246. Post 3834914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: maz on December 05, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
Dude stop reading what some bull manipulates the news to say as fact. It's bad news full stop. China's banning financial institutions from handling bitcoin transactions, if you see that as good news for Chinese exchanges or for bitcoin in China alone, your deluded.

Is your perspective now the following hours, days, weeks or months?

"Bad news for Bitcoin" as a generalization does not exist, because nothing can stop Bitcoin. It is just a question of the way.

Pls elaborate.

Yes I agree, just getting caught up in the excitement. Like I said earlier I still think 1mill per coin is going to happen. But this is a temporary bad news. I think we will feel the effects of this for a few weeks, if not months. Not only because of what has happened in China but because it will effect the confidence of all our new investors, small or big. The media which has helped rally us to our latest ATH with such voracity will act as a two edged sword and now do the opposite touting the crash which will upset our adoption rate.

I don't think we will see several months like the last time, but we will have to go into a bear market for a few months, forget this bad news, recuperate, get more good news, and advance on another ATH attack, how long that takes, I have no idea.


this was a smaller crash than last week.. if China was so bearish from the news they'd be selling.. they're not, they'll gox test the 1100s first for sure.



247. Post 3834981 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Odrec on December 05, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
Simply said, what China bans in this notice does not exists in any country yet. As far as I know no bank is using bitcoin as a currency in all over the world. Even Germany treats it as a private currency. China just officially announced it. On the other hand, previously exchanges are in gray area but now they have chance to be 'white'.

But didn't China ban it as a currency too? In that case probably the main purpose of bitcoin is void. I'm not saying that's the case but that's what I heard. Banning the banks is moot, who cares? But banning the currency aspect of bitcoin is really not cool.

nothing is 100% clear most of this is probably google translations. However I don't believe it is banned as a currency.



248. Post 3835137 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

I'm thinking a 1100 by 9am est, we'll see how it goes from there. I am still torn with how many people can panic upon waking. The west coasters were probably still awake for that crash.


like someone woke up and panic'd on cavirtex.. just dropped of  $100 for no apparent reason other then a couple people turning bear.



249. Post 3835283 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

I think we'll break an ath into the 1300s if we're going to remain bullish for the week. I mean 1110 by 11am est seems ez at this point.



250. Post 3835329 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on December 05, 2013, 12:57:20 PM
That bid wall at Bitstamp has brought the price up to $1030 from $950
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what is bringing gox up? could it not be gox pulling stamp with it back in to the hot tub



251. Post 3835362 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 05, 2013, 12:55:56 PM
I think we'll break an ath into the 1300s if we're going to remain bullish for the week. I mean 1110 by 11am est seems ez at this point.

should've just said 8:00am.. damn



252. Post 3835751 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

I can't figure out whether or not people are just reading the news in small waves or not lol.



253. Post 3845947 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

.. uh.. cavirtex has a back log of verification's.. what steam are you people talking about depleting? I think if anything the members joining into the btc world are growing steadily.

I could agree the new money might wanna buy in on crashes.. but since when was the new money all smart money.. lol.

Hell I felt stupid and smart at 142.50. I see the overall volume slow but.. shouldn't that occur.. if the price has fucking risen by more then 10x since October.. 1000 isn't cheap in relative terms.. and buying .5 or .25 etc.. instead of a whole bitcoin would lower overall buy volume. So give it time till the average adopter has income where a 1000/btc is considered a nice starting place not a hefty investment.. ( my grandfather, my friends think its too much bahh .. they bought gold over btc.. sorry you missed out on the 2 extra ounces worth you'd own by now, I told em to buy last at 300-500 range and then gave up, slash changed my opinion on entering so quickly)



254. Post 3851565 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Hundred dollar drops on gox and stamp ... cavirtex.. moves 20 dollars... its so trolloolo. yesterday it moved with them so fast.. and today zero fucks were given.

I don't get it.. still cavirtex is trying to go towards parity with gox on a downtrend.. wtf



255. Post 3851640 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: seleme on December 06, 2013, 04:07:46 PM
tripple bottom achived, now into the 1400's

Nah, it's Friday only, this is not over yet.

semi agree, I remember on the 5th we had a solid drop at 4am est kinda similar to this.. followed with a slight up trend and another drop then it leveled out



256. Post 3851687 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Dec. 6, 2013, 5:51 a.m.   388.1668/400.0000   950.00000   368758.46 CAD

dammit



257. Post 3851717 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 06, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
tripple bottom achived, now into the 1400's

Nah, it's Friday only, this is not over yet.

semi agree, I remember on the 5th we had a solid drop at 4am est kinda similar to this.. followed with a slight up trend and another drop then it leveled out
iis it happening?



258. Post 3851742 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

500btc support @ 950 on gox if that gets eaten who knows what'll happen another 50-100 drop hehe



259. Post 3851820 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Sitarow on December 06, 2013, 04:22:19 PM
tripple bottom achived, now into the 1400's

Nah, it's Friday only, this is not over yet.

semi agree, I remember on the 5th we had a solid drop at 4am est kinda similar to this.. followed with a slight up trend and another drop then it leveled out
iis it happening?


Who knows.... Spec's are in unknown territory.
my vote from here is upwards. but this is a fight between bullish news from the gentleman at BoA who claimed 1300 was a good evaluation for north american e-commerce use of bitcoin and bearish Chinese restrictions which we all knew would come. However we shall see.. I'd expect the lowest we go is about 850 or so.. but more likely to go horizontal for a while



260. Post 3851988 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

cavirtex.. couldn't be lagging any harder right now. I feel like Im using 56k internet



261. Post 3852061 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: capsqrl on December 06, 2013, 04:43:55 PM
Once again we see resistance around 900. Is there such a thing as a triple bottom?
If you didn't know already, Bitcoin is a Honey Badger. Bitcoin goes where it wants, when it wants and however it wants to.



262. Post 3852096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Vycid on December 06, 2013, 04:47:53 PM
Once again we see resistance around 900. Is there such a thing as a triple bottom?

Look at the 7d, it would actually be a quadruple bottom.

If you are panicking still you are seriously retarded.

+1 as much resistance at 850-900 as there is at 1250-1300 Cheesy were stuck in a bubble of stable volatility ... and then a whale will buy everything at 850 and choo choo to neverland

and yes I sold some coins in this dip and bought at the lows made less then I could've but it mitigated my chance of loss or bear traps.. but panic selling everything.. in a rush.. and that's just a no no.



263. Post 3852913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on December 06, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
I can't even browse this forum for 2 minutes without being logged in and have ignore turned on. Is that guy Walsoraj a troll or really just mentally handicapped? I can't tell the difference.

a combination. I think he is a consolidated look at the mental IQ of the btc-e trollbox

Looking at the buy/sell volumes on clarkmoody. I'm seeing the volume of buys being largest in this last dip. compared to nov 5ths sell off



264. Post 3853195 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

All I know is the same people have been preaching doom and gloom since October.. and none of the advice would've helped anyone at all.



265. Post 3853241 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: Vigil on December 06, 2013, 06:12:35 PM
Gox's fees are too high. It is unprofitable to trade there.

try the 1.5% at cavirtex, vos @ .3% looks inticing waiting on CAD deposit and withdrawal methods.



266. Post 3853301 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.32h):

Quote from: accord01 on December 06, 2013, 06:17:11 PM
sigh, wussed out closed my position @ 926.  But just started a new short @ 911, forgot today is only friday morning.

go for 850 why not.



267. Post 3853411 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: accord01 on December 06, 2013, 06:25:40 PM
Thoughts on this theory going into the weekend?

Usually we see a decline in price on the weekends, especially near in time to reaching an ATH.
I believe most people attribute this to a lack of new fiat being able to be pumped into the exchanges to purchase BTC with.

But in this case, with a decline preceding the weekend, there is plenty of fiat already on the exchanges.  People sold btc and are now holding fiat on the exchanges.  Therefore, everything else being equal, isn't it just as likely that we see a rise over the course of this weekend as it is a decline?

On the other hand, there is also unlimited of BTC's that can be added to the exchanges to be sold.

or 12,000,000 or so minus -1mil for satoshi and - whatever the feds are holding on to. -whoever is in cold storage
clearly not unlimited lol



268. Post 3853570 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 06, 2013, 06:21:01 PM
sigh, wussed out closed my position @ 926.  But just started a new short @ 911, forgot today is only friday morning.

go for 850 why not.

850's looking eh Cheesy

if it munches the 1k sell wall at 900 ill sell some too Cheesy



269. Post 3853692 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

uh CaVirtEx just logged me out and is 500 internal error'n oh god



270. Post 3853765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 06, 2013, 06:51:56 PM
uh CaVirtEx just logged me out and is 500 internal error'n oh god

everytime i go to buy this happens.
says server upgrade in progress now lol

dear god I had sell at 815 ..then when i relogged it was saying 840 as the sell price.. i was like hopefull you met that and I can buy back in .. in an hr lol



271. Post 3853813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

850 was my bottom end area for today's sell offs.. I wouldn't get nervous till sub 700..



272. Post 3853826 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

lol at that.. picture .. the poor birdie



273. Post 3853874 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: DougTanner on December 06, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
What an absolutely perfect time for CAVirtex to roll out an update to their website  Angry

think they've lost my business now.. its un-acceptable.. totally un-acceptable



274. Post 3853977 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

CAVIRTEX UP  get your orders set



275. Post 3854076 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: DougTanner on December 06, 2013, 07:08:20 PM
CAVIRTEX UP  get your orders set

For very small values of 'up'?

it was on maintenance at the beginning of the crash . orders refers to buy or sell whatever people want



276. Post 3854358 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: DougTanner on December 06, 2013, 07:23:18 PM
The media which carried this rally to over 1200 will crucify bitcoin now and drive the price into depression.

Yup, I think we just witnessed the popping of the third great Bitcoin bubble. I was expecting it to reach > $2000 and last another month or two personally.

we gotta go by the working exchanges. its still not far off last weeks low.. or still this weeks low.. I don't understand why you think this a huge bubble pop just yet lol



277. Post 3854647 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

can't put my damned xmas lights up cause cavirtex has an order I wanna cancel but its le pending.. its like cavirtex is gox.. except not a single trade has occurred since gox broke. Itself seems broke as fuck atm

1.5% fees to run a sub standard interface.. jeebus gox would fleece me less



278. Post 3854796 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: DougTanner on December 06, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Wow, my first sell order went through at CAVirtex (from like 10-20 minutes ago?), let's see if that second one will fill.

my first once went thru with gox.. and the second is still pending. I am hoping to cancel it as I'd rather not have to benefit from gox hitting a floor of 600 while we can see it.

Also I got buys set up at 700.. and 70 dollars till then : D panic may be our friends today our worst enemy



279. Post 3854841 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: mmitech on December 06, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
guys this is really fishy... I see massive buys on other exchanges!!! do you think this was all played ? create some panic people start selling and some big hands eats the weak hands ?

anything is possible. the revenge of rpt lol jk jk jk



280. Post 3855055 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

getting damned cloud flare unavailable just as it finally gave me the option to cancel a sell on cavirtex.. STOP FUCKING WITH ME..

and thanks sell order cancelled. lets just hope that 700 is good enough for a panic when gox comes back on cavirtex.



281. Post 3855146 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

starting to notice an up trend every time the loops restarts for gox, on the other exchanges.. not everyone up to date yet or something lol exciting Friday afternoons



282. Post 3855167 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

880s buys on gox.. thats not loop buys Cheesy



283. Post 3855187 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 06, 2013, 08:14:26 PM
its breaking in a new way

its ping pongn' of 870 and 820 lol



284. Post 3855219 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on December 06, 2013, 08:16:16 PM
Bitcoin: you have my permission to crash even harder now.

only thing that has permission is the individual to panic. carry on the rest of you with minds of your own.



285. Post 3855344 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

deciding whether making 10 bucks after being jerked around that much is .. enough lol and i missed it damn you

also why is it that people are buying at near 900 already lol.. guess they' have zero fear of what just occured lol



286. Post 3855560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

wow.. cavirtex screw me more.. moved my order up as prices rises. and all of sudden a back log of sell down to 750.. i just got screwed out of 60 bucks.. cause it didnt meet the bloody sell price at all

edit instead of screwing me they had just lied for 1 minute about the price I paid.



287. Post 3858000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on December 07, 2013, 12:06:20 AM
wow, so many loony bears out there.

DONT FORGET YOUR PURSE.

I had to log off from the forum cause so much bear shit was flying. And they're just talking through their assholes.

price should be in the negatives by now with the rate of drops the expect every time a whale bumps a tree that they're hiding in



288. Post 3858106 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Is it agreed, that a lot of overnight bears got slaughtered like pigs today?

If the prediction that this weekend will be a buyers weekend.. oh god.. it would be like a genocide.



289. Post 3858135 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 07, 2013, 12:20:03 AM
Breaking news: Officials arrest BTCChina founder Bobby Lee!

.... not yet

I love these times. Cheesy

I knew it was FUD right away, because in China, you don't get arrested. You disappear.

that can happen anywhere...not China's fault they don't cover it up as much.



290. Post 3858166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 07, 2013, 12:21:18 AM
Is it agreed, that a lot of overnight bears got slaughtered like pigs today?

If the prediction that this weekend will be a buyers weekend.. oh god.. it would be like a genocide.

At least let the show run it's course before guessing the ending! We got 2 full days to go, time will tell!

Yeah I called it slaughter for today.. on overnight bears. I mean if your long term sure maybe we visit 600 - 700 there is no doubt we've run up quickly.. but how long we stay there is probably like an hour.. 2 max.. to many bullish or long term investors showing up. I mean maybe the billionaires are colluding to short.. but they're doing it to get cheap coins..



291. Post 3858270 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 07, 2013, 12:30:19 AM
Breaking news: Officials arrest BTCChina founder Bobby Lee!

.... not yet

I love these times. Cheesy

I knew it was FUD right away, because in China, you don't get arrested. You disappear.

You are pushing hard to get the "retard of the year prize"

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is? Are you shorting?

For the record: I'm not selling a single coin yet. Fresh fiat waiting at $400, but it might be wishful thinking. 2013 is no 2011.

lol wtf? retard of the year, money where my mouth is? you get out of the wrong side of the bed?

My fiat landed late November, I've ignored this whole run up to 1200+ waiting for the come down on the other side, I'm five figures in fiat watching the price go to the moon and back with the constitution of a lion. Also, I'm not here to prove anything to you. I'm here to invest my limited savings with the highest returns I can, for the benefit of me and my wives future. If you wanna put shit where your mouth is, go find someone else.

So you'd prefer to make less money.. or none at all ..by holding on fiat till.. a crash that.. would be what.. in the 260s? Get real, guess you didn't have any of those five figures in October eh?



292. Post 3858286 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: traderCJ on December 07, 2013, 12:35:11 AM
Is it agreed, that a lot of overnight bears got slaughtered like pigs today?

If the prediction that this weekend will be a buyers weekend.. oh god.. it would be like a genocide.

At least let the show run it's course before guessing the ending! We got 2 full days to go, time will tell!

Yeah I called it slaughter for today.. on overnight bears. I mean if your long term sure maybe we visit 600 - 700 there is no doubt we've run up quickly.. but how long we stay there is probably like an hour.. 2 max.. to many bullish or long term investors showing up. I mean maybe the billionaires are colluding to short.. but they're doing it to get cheap coins..

Agreed.  Once people are comfortable that these developments have been fully digested by the market, they will buy back in.  Price discovery is a beautiful thing.  I predict that those who cashed out for good will regret it in a few months.  I've got some fiat on the sidelines waiting to jump in.  Eh, picking bottoms certainly is a dirty business Smiley

more than 90% of my coins don't leave the wallet for this reason.



293. Post 3858726 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: maz on December 07, 2013, 12:37:26 AM
Breaking news: Officials arrest BTCChina founder Bobby Lee!

.... not yet

I love these times. Cheesy

I knew it was FUD right away, because in China, you don't get arrested. You disappear.

You are pushing hard to get the "retard of the year prize"

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is? Are you shorting?

For the record: I'm not selling a single coin yet. Fresh fiat waiting at $400, but it might be wishful thinking. 2013 is no 2011.

lol wtf? retard of the year, money where my mouth is? you get out of the wrong side of the bed?

My fiat landed late November, I've ignored this whole run up to 1200+ waiting for the come down on the other side, I'm five figures in fiat watching the price go to the moon and back with the constitution of a lion. Also, I'm not here to prove anything to you. I'm here to invest my limited savings with the highest returns I can, for the benefit of me and my wives future. If you wanna put shit where your mouth is, go find someone else.

So you'd prefer to make less money.. or none at all ..by holding on fiat till.. a crash that.. would be what.. in the 260s? Get real, guess you didn't have any of those five figures in October eh?

No....November I had them... Roll Eyes

I can relate  Cheesy to that. small buy in Oct, before freeing up some capital .... Still bought though



294. Post 3859631 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: Sitarow on December 07, 2013, 02:45:54 AM
Seems cavirtex.com new trading platform is broken.

Perhaps a sad attempt at high volume trading.....

I suppose this is "the" way to scare off traders.

spent 20 minute waiting to find out it didn't sell at 675 watching it drop to 625..and then praying I could cancel before the rebound.. which I did manage.. Shitting bricks there, might have to just.. buy and hold until this shit gets ironed out .. str8 dangerous



295. Post 3861667 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

stamp dragging this down?>



296. Post 3861876 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

It could go down, I stopped being afraid of what panic does to people. I thought a 1000 would be a June price target, so let us endure this bear market.

The people with money from selling at 1200-800 are primed to make huge profits and increase btc holdings, when they deem true bottom. Think Rptiella predicted something along these lines but with a higher run up.. but news developments due change the pace and trends.



297. Post 3862042 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: seanneko on December 07, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
Bought back... doubled my btc tonight Smiley

Wondering how many people are just waiting to hit the buy! The jump will be huge.


Last time I buy and hold. Worst strategy ever.

how long did you hold?



298. Post 3862072 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

can' I say this fall look like a slinkly going down the stairs.. except at the bottom there will be a trampoline of flubber. right Cheesy



299. Post 3862097 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: seanneko on December 07, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
Bought back... doubled my btc tonight Smiley

Wondering how many people are just waiting to hit the buy! The jump will be huge.


Last time I buy and hold. Worst strategy ever.

how long did you hold?

Since $200. It just makes me sad knowing I could've doubled my BTC today.

wrong thought process then, I got in at 140-980, no fears if anything this mean the future top will be immensely larger.. cause nothing really has changed about the bitcoins actual value.. besides the current speculators fears regarding it.

 If you wanna day trade just stick to the sell high buy low. however not as easy as it seems.



300. Post 3862205 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

800 bid wall got pulled and another lil decline may begin



301. Post 3862350 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: NamelessOne on December 07, 2013, 08:32:57 AM
I'm curious about what is gonna happen when the US wakes up. Will they
a) Panic sell even more
b) Buy all the cheap BTC
c) Do nothing
I feel we still have some downwards movement left to go so panic selling may be in order. This currently feels like another bulltrap. We will see.

but dat push for 700 doe.. we'll see how long we can sustain this bounce.



302. Post 3862398 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: pdawg on December 07, 2013, 08:36:48 AM
on the 3 min chart look for 3 legs of buying up, is so we may have put in a bottom

Gox dollars might help those legs appear. If some feel that they have too much in Gox dollars vs btc you could see the shift back into btc and this raise is assumed by the bullish. However I don't know how bearish some are feeling and waiting for the next higher exit point in the 750-850 range.



303. Post 3862426 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: AceWallen on December 07, 2013, 08:42:26 AM
no bottom here, just a small bull trap.

very well could be. we'll see I think it would appear in the 750-850 range



304. Post 3862633 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: pdawg on December 07, 2013, 09:05:09 AM
nice bull trap here or what?

Mini cup and handle.

Handle is becoming longer. $900 in 45 minutes. You heard it here first.

definitely doable.

tempted to take a nap and see what I wake up to
 lol



305. Post 3862815 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.33h):

Quote from: DPoS on December 07, 2013, 09:23:34 AM


I panicked so I'm out 5% and already have too much fiat zeros in my exchange account. Now I'm panicked about the fiat.

50% is good, but yields some risks. Piglets usually go out 90-100%

looks like consolidation in the ~670 range now...  might be time to get a nap in Smiley

sitting around 70/30 btc/fiat now

see you at 5:20 est Cheesy lol



306. Post 3867103 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 07, 2013, 09:26:56 AM


I panicked so I'm out 5% and already have too much fiat zeros in my exchange account. Now I'm panicked about the fiat.

50% is good, but yields some risks. Piglets usually go out 90-100%

looks like consolidation in the ~670 range now...  might be time to get a nap in Smiley

sitting around 70/30 btc/fiat now

see you at 5:20 est Cheesy lol

Well the nap lead to a long sleep. and rightly so as no price alarms shot off..to bad it didnt stay in the 750-850 range that I expected to see. Even as a bull I would've liked to take my day trading amounts at that range but all in all. Glad to see a lil recovery



307. Post 3867228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on December 07, 2013, 04:47:01 PM
so where are the profit takers whom bought near the bottom ?

Just look at that:

BTC bought: [tid:13864044862671##] 37.32879691 BTC at $610.10010
BTC sold: [tid:13864182754911##] 35.89321469 BTC at $846.99900


Of course there were many trades in between less rewarding..  Wink

Why only a plus of ~1.5 BTCs?

By a price difference of 230$ * 35.8 Coins = 8234 and buying back at 610 = 13.5 more coins?!

I missed all these oportunities because I had no balls and am easy to manipulate by reading posts here :/ Had a good feeling about selling @1100 after the china news but am always reading here that we will soon see 10.000$ by the end of the year ^^

It's bitcoin it could still do it, however you should never bank on others opinions. Do your best to read both sides, the bears were correct but half of them are spewing 1-200 bottoms and causing mass panic from people who've bought in lets say anywhere over 750+. These new hands usually don't have a strategy and get caught in these quick flash crashes. The panic grows quickest when we see these flash crashes cause weak hands have no stomach to buy and hold.. otherwise it be in cold wallets and they wouldn't be watching with us.

As I've stated I think a lot of people sold from 850-1200 range, those holding long term say before early nov. are laughing cause they were selling at a near 100% or greater profit.. and using that same profit to increase their holdings while weak bear coins kept dumping...Don't get me wrong this has become the weekend of the bear so far but..all these people need to remember.. that those who sold at 1200 and got back in at 600-700 could have nearly doubled their own btc holdings or kept it the same with extra Fiat that could buy in the ultimate bear zone of 400-500.

Also all those bears preaching the doom and gloom finally were able to re-enter in the 600-650 range that they had always planned to..but they had to see how low it would go first.

So in conclusion we break out of the bear market probably 1-2am Sunday morning, as people who are ahead of the curve don't wait for Monday to react.



308. Post 3867465 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: maz on December 07, 2013, 05:40:30 PM
Anybody find it VERY interesting that BTCChina is more resistant to the downtrend and at a fairly higher price than the other exchanges.

Seems like a disconnect to me. If this rally is predicated on China's bitcoin policies, then why are the chinese less bearish right now?


It's interesting, noticed it earlier.

All I can think of is that the China news gave us the pop that we all wanted, sooner we crashed the sooner we get back to break 2k.

Edit: someone suggested BTChina may have temporarily suspended some transactions until verifications are processed?

What do you guys feel about the volume of buying over sat post 5am-6amest so far.. It's looking healthier for buy support on the north american exchanges as well.

Bearstamp seems most skiddish still



309. Post 3867560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Jamievs on December 07, 2013, 05:52:19 PM
Massive pump going on @ bitstamp

not really massive and it is just following gox's coat tail



310. Post 3867779 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: nesevis on December 07, 2013, 06:12:29 PM
Everyone here is going to tell you that the price is going down until they close their shorts or re-entry positions.  When the price is going down, get back to the fundamentals and the actual numbers.  Some bears took advantage of the doom and gloom they were able to post all around and got a bunch of inexperienced traders to leave their original positions at far greater losses, there will be some good natured people spreading this doom and gloom now to further their own positions now that they got caught with their shorts down.  Someone is dropping ~100 coins every 10 minutes for the past 4 hours now in an attempt to cause a second wave of panic when the only reason the panic started in the first place was because of two well timed 5,000 coin drops that have since re-entered.. their are some very big coin holders in here that would love more people to give in to the illusion of the lower entry greed.  The normal uptalkers right now are busy starring at charts while the normal downtalkers are attempting to take advantage of the lack of confidence instilled.  Patience in your friend.

+3.14

+3.14^2



311. Post 3870847 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Jamievs on December 07, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Could someone please comment on where they feel the exchange handles shorting well-- I'm asking whether Cavitrex (sp?) and vitrex (sp?) are the best/only game in town to participate in the 'other' successful trade (shorting)?

Thanks in advance.  Smiley

Bump. So, how are you guys shorting?



It's possible to go short?  Shocked

unless they came about today. no.
bitfenix was the only place I thought ran that



312. Post 3870888 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

sat down to see the most recent dumping..another loop

edit 2200 sell wall at 700 and its gone but not munched



313. Post 3870954 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: freethink2013 on December 07, 2013, 11:03:23 PM
China got us to 1200 and china crashed us back down. There's going to be huge uncertainty until china figures out the reality of their situation.

On a plus note the black market in china is probably bigger than the economies of most nations.

China hasn't crashed us..fear has crashed us.. but never fear..only people who lose to fear are weak hands.



314. Post 3871007 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: iarsenaux on December 07, 2013, 11:10:11 PM
getting ready for todays crash. what a painful weekend. Smiley

lol.. perpetuate fear why don't ya. How bout you just sell all your coins if you haven't. That way you can buy some more when it crashes..



315. Post 3871095 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: MoreFun on December 07, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
getting ready for todays crash. what a painful weekend. Smiley

I suspect this is a lonely whale-bear nothing more.

I've come to the conclusion way too many people expect instant returns...this is possibly due to so much new money over the last short period.. and many of these people haven't experienced a true crash. That being said I think this correction is good for us, help educate the new blood. Its generally a painful lesson when you bought high and then sold low...buy&hold noobs.



316. Post 3871251 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

The whales and bears are allowed to do as they please.. but we need a sign that says don't feed em.. its like throwing your money away at people you don't know lol



317. Post 3871630 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: lucas.sev on December 08, 2013, 12:57:56 AM
Is this a mini tripple bottom formed in the last 7hours~?

no
zoom out.
its still crashing hard
sell me your coins now b4 its to late!

sarcasm?


He's saying I want cheap coins. He's not sarcastic..whales have been shaking bear coins since Friday.

Edit: Also my mom made her second prediction short term 820 by 12:01am Dec 8th I wonder if she can go 2/2.



318. Post 3871884 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

stamp moved up gox came down and said hey



319. Post 3871956 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

when red goes green on gox lol 2400 coins flowed to stronger hands



320. Post 3872006 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 08, 2013, 01:41:24 AM


someone remind me,
why does the picture ALWAYS look like this?
panic avalanche vs penny pinching?



321. Post 3872635 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 08, 2013, 03:08:35 AM
" long slow decline "


markets climb slowly and drop fast.

thats just how it works

their will never be a  long slow decline.



You don't remember 2 years ago?

oh ya 2 years ago bitcoin was a mature market.

 2 years ago was a joke

There's kinda of long slow decline happening as we type.

lol ok 3-5 days is a LONG TIME

yea  3-5 day to retrace weeks of gains sounds fast opposed to slow...Mind you were stuck here on a Sat night watching it ping pong round 650-750 a whale can cripple us but anyone with the stomach can just wait out the bear winter to the future bull. And all the people with fiat can prosper on a chance to join back in. I can't wait till we revisit the whole debt ceiling in the new year lol



322. Post 3872898 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: beaconpcguru on December 08, 2013, 03:35:20 AM
Bears are getting nervous about their shorts, I can smell the fear.  

Hmm its been a roller coaster for a while.. but bitcoin does what it wants when it wants.. hard to predict when we'll break again.. I think it will coincide with a larger trader



323. Post 3872995 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: Cablez on December 08, 2013, 03:55:35 AM
Bears are getting nervous about their shorts, I can smell the fear.  

Hmm its been a roller coaster for a while.. but bitcoin does what it wants when it wants.. hard to predict when we'll break again.. I think it will coincide with a larger trader

Doesn't it always? Smiley

Yes I went for the most generic post I could. I think particularly now though it just seems like were ready to turn gravity off and go to the moon at any moment as well as we could see whale try and show us the bear floor.

Seems like my post is generic again lol



324. Post 3873090 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 08, 2013, 04:16:37 AM
OK bottle of wine #2

the future of bitcoin looks bright indeed!

Think I'll join you. Cheers.




i think i'm gana be sick.


Oh noes!!! Remember chug-a-lug a liter or 4 of water before you sleep!!! I hatez those hangoverz!!! (puke if you have to, it's your thread!)

Cheers, buddy!  Smiley

smoke a joint if you really want to puke, but the water is a must.



325. Post 3874108 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

so bear say new exit points coming.. bull says recovery. I say more roller coaster Cheesy



326. Post 3878585 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: oroboras on December 08, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
This has been the most difficult of all the crashes to watch without moving significant sums of bitcoin to the exchanges (because opportunity seemed so obvious), but I remain resolved that the risk of allowing 3rd parties control over my bitcoins is too great.  The best I was able to do was have some fiat on a couple of exchanges with buy orders staggered all the way down to $250, many of which, as you can imagine, were hit, and the bitcoin have subsequently been removed from the exchanges.

I'm with you on this. Here, take more money then I've ever had in my life and please don't make it disappear ok?ok?ok?ok?ok?ok?ok?

Yep.  It's really an absurd risk, on top of the risk of merely being involved in bitcoin in the first place.

You can trade only with a slice. Ofc risk is higher, but so is possible gain also. Without risk, there's no win. Gox and Stamp has not directly stolen anyones money (if goxxing doesn't count).

I don't think Goxxing counts. Most people who are 'goxxed' are people who keep forgetting that Market Orders go in order of placement, and that the special MtGox LagEngine (TM) comes into effect when many people place orders at once.

Also, bye bye 700

hello 715



327. Post 3878917 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: TERA on December 08, 2013, 04:28:07 PM
I think we're now we're now working on the "arm of death" as the final bulltrap before capitulation.

relate that to the Chinese markets being at 780, sentiment like this is why North America is so shaky....there has yet to be a bull trap in my opinion..



328. Post 3879025 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

If we can shake off this misunderstood news and people start looking at China objectively and realize they've returned to leading maybe they'll notice how many strong hands in China got cheap coins.. If everyone was to assume they were what got us up to 1200s then why would they not be encouraged by them leading again.

Also this is still FUD but I believe  I read that the police in Hong Kong were on to or had possibly made an arrest of the thieves from an exchange...this help to prove that bitcoin can't always just be scammed with out repercussion.



329. Post 3879057 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

the last time I had to wait on a choo choo we shot pass 900 in a couple days after the weekend.



330. Post 3879307 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: ardana123 on December 08, 2013, 03:56:21 PM
Last chance to sell at 700+ guys, better go for it...

so.. do they sell now at 750? cause you sure just like spreading fear.

I read the time stamp perhaps you meant until 4:00



331. Post 3879895 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

how bout you pm about that .. and let's focus on the fact China loves to stay firm at 4700-4800 cny



332. Post 3881328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

im sure we'll hear the bull trap comments anytime now



333. Post 3884295 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

I think what really happening is the exchange would prefer to let China ride the top for the next while



334. Post 3884313 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: slakeco on December 09, 2013, 12:31:27 AM
anyone just buy in the last hour over $800? If so, how are you feeling?


I bought one or two coins for 900+ last week, still feel good. whats there to worry about? I bought bitcoin in general cause I think its robust and undervalued.

I wonder how people who sold at 650-700 are feeling right now to be honest.



335. Post 3884337 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: jonoiv on December 09, 2013, 12:38:36 AM


Could someone explain in simpleton terms this type of chart please.  I have seen it 100's of times but never understood it.

bid and ask depth of an exchange



336. Post 3884408 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 09, 2013, 12:41:25 AM
anyone just buy in the last hour over $800? If so, how are you feeling?


I bought one or two coins for 900+ last week, still feel good. whats there to worry about? I bought bitcoin in general cause I think its robust and undervalued.

I wonder how people who sold at 650-700 are feeling right now to be honest.

if those people buy now they have "lost" money just like you "lost" when you bought 900+ and not now, i'm not trying to be a smart ass, just telling numbers

I lost about as much as I was up a week ago.. a week from now it can all change.. I don't lose till I sell derP?

Not debating that I lost if I sold now and they would lose if they bought back in now. It's the mentality that these bears are pushing SELL NOW CAUSE WERE GOING DOWN, DOWN, DOWN which if it catches on happens.. all the while strong hands and China are buying these coins as well as any bear who sold from 1200-850 even.. why line their pockets with fiat and btc.

I am not against anyone who took profits at the higher prices, I think they made the right call. Just its not helping to spread the late panic logic after the real money has been made by those on the ball



337. Post 3885041 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

gox has passed china. I think this would be the first time this weekend.



338. Post 3890465 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: barbs on December 09, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
last chance to sell under 1000$

it was 980 round 2 am est. you were late to that post..

either way please we could use less trolling like this.. so many assholes spreading fud to make a couple dollars ( or a couple thousand ).. your behaving like the losers who'd lie about whats on an exam in univ/college to cause a bell curve to improve your own mark at the cost of causing others to fail.



339. Post 3890650 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: barbs on December 09, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
last chance to sell under 1000$

it was 980 round 2 am est. you were late to that post..

either way please we could use less trolling like this.. so many assholes spreading fud to make a couple dollars ( or a couple thousand ).. your behaving like the losers who'd lie about whats on an exam in univ/college to cause a bell curve to improve your own mark at the cost of causing others to fail.

Reread my post... and realize it makes no sense.. then lighten up Cheesy

Apologies.. I did fully jump to a conclusion upon drowsy reading been trying to be troll patrol Cheesy at least my comment still applied to the other.. last chance to sell at 700-750-800 comments I have read.

I will also admit me being a dick to others is probably the least effect way to get people to stop trolling Cheesy




340. Post 3891011 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: bootlace on December 09, 2013, 01:57:04 PM
I dont think there's much upside in buying now in the 950 range. We already know there is going to be resistance at 1000 as well as ~1200 - and even if we overcome those it could stay in that range for quite a while. I almost rather buy at 1300 (35% more expensive) knowing full well we're in a definite 'CCMF' upswing than buying now possibly at 100% premium if this is a bull trap. Don't know how much validity there is in this strategy but it feels right to me.

Stick to whatever it is you plan to..unless you find flaws in the plan then re evaluate. I started to feel silly about 900-1000k btc buys.. but I just thought to myself this correction will strengthen my already ( didn't sell a single coin expecting to see 1x, 2xx, or 4xx) bull long term prices and now we can return to slower and some steadier growth towards 1k with confidence the run up wasn't just a couple Chinese bulls. I think alot of people started to believe after the last correction which in China showed less nervousness then the rest imo.



341. Post 3891344 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: macsga on December 09, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
No offense intended, I do have the opinion we' re heading for another FAST ath rally before correcting again.

I think we've seen people hold off on buying for 6hrs or so in hopes of seeing new money leading the rally. Cheesy They don't wanna stick their toes in the shark infested waters



342. Post 3891472 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: lucas.sev on December 09, 2013, 02:43:35 PM
I smell trap too, as before the crash the rally weakened around 1200.
So unless big money pours in, new ATH is improbable in the coming few weeks and this price will be unsustainable.

I've sent wires on Friday, I wonder who else did. Money will be coming around Wednesday I think.

I love cavirtex for only one reason.. 2-3 day from the day I make a bill payment it is processed.. friday is done by tuesday latest  12:05am generally though its there on the third day no matter what day. and 5 bucks.. instead of a 30 dollar wire fee in Canada is another 25 to bitcoin



343. Post 3891525 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.34h):

Quote from: magicmexican on December 09, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
Look like i was right yesterday. Too much greedy bears waiting for unrealistically cheap coins. This "crash" looks more and more like the silkroad one.

hard to peg it just yet.. we got a proving ground period till Wednesday I'd guess



344. Post 3891564 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on December 09, 2013, 02:54:24 PM
People sell but the price goes up  Angry

Cmon did one mistake by selling yesterday, can we please go back to 800 for a second  Cheesy

anything is possible. but never sell or buy in a panic.. evaluate..evaluate evaluate and dont trust anyone here to be looking out for you.



345. Post 3891753 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

I am assuming we finish close to 900.. and will struggle to stay in the 850+ range unless buyers wire transfer click over and they really think the choo choo is ready to depart again



346. Post 3892000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 09, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
i figure we can move higher off this bounce.

good stuff

bitcoin is looking strong!

I am just suspect of it holding stable cause of the rush to 980 at 2am est.. I think that will not help us as much as it will hurt us. I derived from it that many people still feel bear. I remain fearless and I am sure as soon as money hits the exchanges and they decide the lows have occurred for their personal numbers, the buys will start picking up steam towards the choo choo it could take a dip to 750 to trigger it though. However I remain super bullish in the long run.



347. Post 3892314 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on December 09, 2013, 03:53:59 PM
broken trendline, btw

and "Three black crows" pattern



yes.. it broke Friday cool story 3 days late.

yes I'm grumpy.



348. Post 3892484 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 09, 2013, 04:05:51 PM
yes.. it broke Friday cool story 3 days late.

It's just reminder for those who haven't sold yet  Wink




selll aLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the ci0nz!!!!2!!!!!
to me!
 Cheesy
no ..you'll just swap em for fiat and buy WINE LOL.. but now I see the full red candles as you drinking wine.. and green ones when your out to buy more Cheesy .. I am still joking though ..



349. Post 3892576 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: tarmi on December 09, 2013, 04:14:03 PM

it broke on a butt load of volume

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bitcoin market do somthing its never done b4, ignore TA and go CHOOOO CHOOOOO MOTHERFUCKERS




like what?

big holders pumping the price after that trend reversal?

good luck with that!

you do know the price dropped largely impart to people spreading mass fear that China blanket banned bitcoin right? And that the Chinese exchange lead all "weak"end while bears sold em cheap coins.. further extrapolated by speculators noticing the trend changing and further pushing it down.



350. Post 3892615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: tarmi on December 09, 2013, 04:16:48 PM

it broke on a butt load of volume

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bitcoin market do somthing its never done b4, ignore TA and go CHOOOO CHOOOOO MOTHERFUCKERS




like what?

big holders pumping the price after that trend reversal?

good luck with that!

you do know the price only dropped cause people spread mass fear that china blanket banned bitcoin right? And that the Chinese exchange lead all "weak"end while bears sold em cheap coins.. further extrapolated by speculators noticing the trend changing and further pushing it down.


I dont buy nor sell on any news.

like somebody already said> news follow price.

uh.. I think Price followed news but whatever



351. Post 3892727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on December 09, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
like somebody already said> news follow price, not the other way around.

totally agreed

so ..on the 5th BTC is @ 1153. the news dropped that day or Wednesday morning and then we see on Friday a whale dump occur.. are you saying that.. the whale saw that coming and were always planning to dump Friday.



352. Post 3892868 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: sumantso on December 09, 2013, 04:27:22 PM
like somebody already said> news follow price, not the other way around.

totally agreed

so ..on the 5th BTC is @ 1153. the news dropped that day or Wedneday morning and then we on Friday a whale dump happened.. are you saying that.. the whale saw that coming and were always planning to dump Friday.

The downtrend was there. The news caused a bigger crash.

That logic means.. the price followed news.. I know it was trending down.. but that doesn't mean it just goes and corrects anyway .. the news and speculators pushed it down. I am not saying news pushes prices always.. but in panic sells I would say its a large part of the momentum.



353. Post 3892891 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 09, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
yes.. it broke Friday cool story 3 days late.

It's just reminder for those who haven't sold yet  Wink




selll aLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the ci0nz!!!!2!!!!!
to me!
 Cheesy
no ..you'll just swap em for fiat and buy WINE LOL.. but now I see the full red candles as you drinking wine.. and green ones when your out to buy more Cheesy .. I am still joking though ..

LOL!

it hurts when i lol  Undecided

Did you not drink the water prescribed...heal up I need you in top shape to buy bear coins  Wink



354. Post 3892907 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: jonoiv on December 09, 2013, 04:34:57 PM

it broke on a butt load of volume

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bitcoin market do somthing its never done b4, ignore TA and go CHOOOO CHOOOOO MOTHERFUCKERS




like what?

big holders pumping the price after that trend reversal?

good luck with that!

you do know the price only dropped cause people spread mass fear that china blanket banned bitcoin right? And that the Chinese exchange lead all "weak"end while bears sold em cheap coins.. further extrapolated by speculators noticing the trend changing and further pushing it down.


I dont buy nor sell on any news.

like somebody already said> news follow price.

uh.. I think Price followed news but whatever

That assumption is wrong and originates from dow theory.

Sure it may have been true 100 years ago when news came from, the local rag, the grape vine and the man down the pub!  

But it's the 21st century with live news and the internet, that theory is 100% bollocks!

its unclear whether you think price follows news or news follows price.. I personally think both occur and differ based on various things like type of news, current trends etc



355. Post 3892948 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

lol nice picture, as I've never seen a bull trap ( not meaning in the market ) I would assume you may have caught a bear with that



356. Post 3893092 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

except for me as a computer enthusiast and I was interested in the fact the silk roads was able to exist. I mean price had nothing to do with why I initially found Bitcoin just saying. I'm also quite sure many many many people bought some for tons of reason other than speculation and they ending up winning just out of pure luck.



357. Post 3893131 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: jonoiv on December 09, 2013, 04:51:25 PM

it broke on a butt load of volume

I wouldn't be surprised to see the bitcoin market do somthing its never done b4, ignore TA and go CHOOOO CHOOOOO MOTHERFUCKERS




like what?

big holders pumping the price after that trend reversal?

good luck with that!

you do know the price only dropped cause people spread mass fear that china blanket banned bitcoin right? And that the Chinese exchange lead all "weak"end while bears sold em cheap coins.. further extrapolated by speculators noticing the trend changing and further pushing it down.


I dont buy nor sell on any news.

like somebody already said> news follow price.

uh.. I think Price followed news but whatever

That assumption is wrong and originates from dow theory.

Sure it may have been true 100 years ago when news came from, the local rag, the grape vine and the man down the pub!  

But it's the 21st century with live news and the internet, that theory is 100% bollocks!

its unclear whether you think price follows news or news follows price.. I personally think both occur and differ based on various things like type of news, current trends etc

As far as I understood it, dow theory states that by the time news is common knowledge the price has already been effected.  But this was back when communication was slow.  Today you may well stumble upon news before it's mainstream and watch for the early signs the price is changing.  Where as 100 years ago the price went low then later you heard why it happened.

Like when I heard about silk road.  I read a post on this forum and went to btc-e and the price had only just started to move.  The person that wrote the thread could have sold before he even wrote the thread about the silk road and dumped before any market change.  I was one of the first to see the post and sold all my LTC just in time, before reburying later.  

I agree, I will admit that the problem we face today is fact checking and finding multiple points of data that correlate to the points being made in an article. Lots of blogs, and even mainstream news that just get it so wrong.



358. Post 3894030 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: JerryCurlzzz on December 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
this bull trap is supposed to end soon, like duh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
here you go maybe this will help you pass the time



359. Post 3894183 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: John999 on December 09, 2013, 06:29:29 PM
this bull trap is supposed to end soon, like duh

Yep. It's getting boring.

boring lol.. probably sold some more coins at 700 Cheesy I am sure you sold at 950-1100 and got back in at like 640 or something like that already.



360. Post 3894253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: Sitarow on December 09, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
There are basically just enough bulls to keep this price steady.

It's just getting warmed up.

I still think we need to dip a lil lower.. and then someone will buy it up back into the higher 900s.. I expect close to 4pm+ est  If the news about the Swiss possibly deeming it a currency becomes better verified and spread it will probably lead to 950+  before we roll into the next day/night



361. Post 3894328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: John999 on December 09, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
this bull trap is supposed to end soon, like duh

Yep. It's getting boring.

boring lol.. probably sold some more coins at 700 Cheesy I am sure you sold at 950-1100 and got back in at like 640 or something like that already.

Yes I average sold close to the top, no I didn't buy back anything yet, no I don't plan to buy any, unless it passes 1050 to the upside or after a couple weeks (months) after the crash, if crash there is. What about you my smart friend?

missed the window on the top being a bull, and I just plan to hold.



362. Post 3894467 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: tarmi on December 09, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
this bull trap is supposed to end soon, like duh

Yep. It's getting boring.

boring lol.. probably sold some more coins at 700 Cheesy I am sure you sold at 950-1100 and got back in at like 640 or something like that already.

Yes I average sold close to the top, no I didn't buy back anything yet, no I don't plan to buy any, unless it passes 1050 to the upside or after a couple weeks (months) after the crash, if crash there is. What about you my smart friend?

missed the window on the top being a bull, and I just plan to hold.


why? you do understand that you are doing a favor to early adopters?


congrats to all people who sold @ 1000+ $.

we are early adopters.. lol

Guess I am not that interested in making a quicker return, I see an opportunity has come and gone most likely. Hey we could go down to 450 again and I still wouldn't freak out.. partially cause it would be close to the average buy if anything I'd throw more fiat at it.



363. Post 3894562 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: tarmi on December 09, 2013, 06:54:23 PM


we are early adopters.. lol




satoshi, is that you?

early adopter vs creator lol...I think I'll just take that as a compliment



364. Post 3894780 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

well I thought we'd see the dip or jump by 4pm est so Imma go kill the time putting more xmas lights up.. does it never end.

Here's to the future



365. Post 3896468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: ardana123 on December 09, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy? Should I buy?

but you sold at 700.. how could you buy .. now oh yeah..



366. Post 3897585 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

China resuming control momentarily of the lead.



367. Post 3898830 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on December 10, 2013, 12:33:40 AM
Buy your bitcoins before there are none for sale..

we oddly sound like the bears bahaha.



368. Post 3901451 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Side.. bet I think gox would be the first to 1000 again



369. Post 3907988 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: John999 on December 10, 2013, 04:59:52 PM
I always use the chart from BTCchina. I found it more reliable.

Ok, here is the chart from China.
I can't decide which variant of the neckline is correct there.



I use the one around 6100 yuans ($1000). If it is crossed on the upside with volume, i will start thinking to buy back.

blows my mind doubling your coins near 575-620 wasn't enough for you best of luck...



370. Post 3908042 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: iarsenaux on December 10, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
how come that i was selling coins on mtgox for 964.50 and price went to 964.65 without getting my coins sold?

limited amount of coins being sold and someone else having an order ahead of you would be my best guess.



371. Post 3908666 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: adsdas on December 10, 2013, 06:02:37 PM
Time to wake up guys, we're going back to the moon tonight!


but but but but.. 200... but lol



372. Post 3908914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

wall munching going lol
 250+



373. Post 3909009 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

no flames I just wanna see wall munching



374. Post 3909155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

remember those who sold at 1200 or 1100 are still making money if they just wanted to watch it long it was a luxury they earned, at the costs of many flames before.. 141 left of th 995 eh jeez



375. Post 3909211 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 10, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
I always use the chart from BTCchina. I found it more reliable.

Ok, here is the chart from China.
I can't decide which variant of the neckline is correct there.



I use the one around 6100 yuans ($1000). If it is crossed on the upside with volume, i will start thinking to buy back.

blows my mind doubling your coins near 575-620 wasn't enough for you best of luck...

the time has come no?



376. Post 3909305 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 10, 2013, 05:57:20 AM
Side.. bet I think gox would be the first to 1000 again

do I win anything? ..perhaps a high five? a glass of wine from Adam?



377. Post 3909342 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: John999 on December 10, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
I always use the chart from BTCchina. I found it more reliable.

Ok, here is the chart from China.
I can't decide which variant of the neckline is correct there.



I use the one around 6100 yuans ($1000). If it is crossed on the upside with volume, i will start thinking to buy back.

blows my mind doubling your coins near 575-620 wasn't enough for you best of luck...

the time has come no?

We are far from 6100 on BTCchina.

200 cny wasn't much.. and yeah epic bear vs bull moment coming up



378. Post 3909440 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: Bitcoines on December 10, 2013, 07:01:37 PM
i wish im wrong but i feel this like a trap >.< the same guy pushing the price up is the one adding the selling walls -.- and then when it places it to push and starts to get eaten he removes it ...

i wish im wrong and we go to the moon tho, wish will do sooner or later Smiley

regardless of this there has been a nice amount of volume compared to the last couple days



379. Post 3909687 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

yeah its losts it steam so far



380. Post 3909725 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.35h):

Quote from: maz on December 10, 2013, 07:21:48 PM
Seeing it break 1k after the last attempt is hilarious. Punched through that shit with follow through last time. Suppose this is healthier though.

if the other exchanges followed it may have sustain the 1k mark for a while. but they didn't move the same way



381. Post 3920918 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 11, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Hahha nice rally going on once again Grin

Theorize with me here, I've heard some grumblings if we don't attack the ATH this week blah blah we'll regress by the weekend. I believe another sell off Friday or over the "weak-end" would require some bad enough news or be easily misinterpreted. That being said I would like to just see us consolidate for a whole week and move horizontal which in my opinion would confirm were building a base for our next liftoff.



382. Post 3922850 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: pickard on December 11, 2013, 05:22:30 PM
Yes it could go up from here (not likely),  but it can't be called a reverse head and shoulders, due to the all time high as the middle peak.  do you follow what i'm saying?

It doesn't matter, ATH or not ATH for the middle peak.
The middle peak of a H&S pattern is almost always a top of a trend.

Yes it matters!

If one of the peaks is the all time high, then how can there be a REVERSAL PATTERN?   The reverse head and shoulders is a reversal pattern formed after a long downtrend, showing that the market has been moving down for a long period and is reversing to go back up.  we are at the end of a long uptrend.  and the 1d chart referred to shows a potential head and shoulders.  the second peak being the all time high.

We are clearly talking about different timeframes.
I was talking about short term.

Fair enough!  one mans 15min Bull flag is anothers 1 hour bear flag.


bears scream 100-200 we get 600. now that we're saying 600 were probably gonna dip as low as 750.. but all in all the strong hand whale gets more coins.. from those who pick bad entry and exit points. I am avoiding all the day trading as I am just so unsure when a whale will make a splash.

I was gonna sell at 970+ on cavirtex would've been wise. but alas I really would' prefer to just let the market be while I do other more important things like drink shots of tequila with Tabasco sauce



383. Post 3922891 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):


Quote from: Carra23 on December 11, 2013, 05:25:48 PM





Why is there a double head? One of those two headed ogres in WoW?

lulz bitcoin brings new life to TA everday



384. Post 3922967 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: babeq on December 11, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
I just back from work and seeing that bitcoin fell about 100$ today, could anyone tell me what caused that? Any bank banned bitcoin?

we call it the ebb and flow of a developing market..

Another thought the loop shape from last Friday is awful similar to those double tops lol in reverse



385. Post 3923080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

When bears doom and gloom in times of relatively good news it seems they get bit.. they get so much further with those lovely misinterpreted non English statements.



386. Post 3923269 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: capsqrl on December 11, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
with your fancy pictures predicting a move down... 1 BTC says you are mainly in FIAT atm.

And 1 USD says you are mainly in bitcoin atm - so what? Nobody here says what they really think, only what their position is, you as well.

I've never lied about my stances no way to prove that directly, nor do I totally discredit bears.. just the majority of them act like chicken little every time someone takes profits.. not everyone is in it for the long haul.

But yeah.. I don't say 10k after every rally ( I'm sure I have said it before)  some do.. there are crazy people on both sides.



387. Post 3923339 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 11, 2013, 06:01:11 PM


chart Buddy is getting to the bears and the bulls at the same time..this is too good



388. Post 3923619 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

200 coin dump , why not sell slowly to ..not jip yourself of ..10-20 bucks a coin.. guess you'd rather just try and manipulate



389. Post 3924223 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

So I ate a fortune cookie last night, and another this mourning..both fortunes said, "People will be talking about your success." Clearly this means too the moon.



390. Post 3924997 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

so did some1 buy something worth 3.5 lambos or so lol



391. Post 3925214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: 11ams on December 11, 2013, 08:14:49 PM
positive news in that if you were in BTC you wouldn't be getting tapped on the shoulder for a bail out.

That's what I thought. It could potentially push people into looking at Bitcoin for it's store of wealth properties (although the fluctuations right now don't exactly instill confidence).

discussion continue till next week atleast they can try and get verified if need be lOOOOOOOOl  don't gotta buy till they know its about to go sideways



392. Post 3928181 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: Vycid on December 11, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
Stamp/Gox gap closing, historically that means we're going to see some movement.

Situation is unclear but my bet is on 'up'.

I hope everyone is trying to fact check all the news...some big upwards trends can begin once it all gets verified...bails in on the horizon, IRAs, Ebay listing a virtual currency section



393. Post 3928415 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 12, 2013, 12:22:22 AM
My firm analysis is that bitcoin is overvalued:

I constructed a trendline based on daily prices, and calculated through the last and current bubbles.

It is helpful to know what a logarithmic scale means. Basically it means that every 0.1 difference equals to 26% (compounding). Ten times 0.1 compounds to 1.26^10 = 10.

We express the relative undervaluation/overvaluation in logscale, where 1.0 means that the actual value is 10.0x trend and -1.0 means that it is at 0.1x the trend. That extreme valuations we did not see, though.

Spring

At the low point in 14.1., we started the rise from -0.46.
The trendline was crossed in 21.3., at 0.00 (66 days later)
The peak was reached in 9.4., at 0.45 (19 days later)
The low was reached in 7.7., at -0.30 (89 days later)

Autumn

At the low point in 3.10., we started the rise from -0.34.
The trendline was crossed in 9.11., at 0.00 (37 days later)
The peak was reached in 30.11., at 0.46 (21 days later)
The low was reached in TBD

After spending the whole week so far pretty much with these calculations, I can say that I mostly subscribe to the scenario where bitcoin's exchange rate is currently overvalued by more than 100% (0.32 in log scale). Because the overvaluation is so gross and the delusion of fair value so pervasive (I even personally "turned bull" at the ATH after making my initial bearish call in 20.11. at a lower price), it will take 1-3 months to reach the healthy low in relative valuation. It is not guaranteed that the relative low coincides with the absolute low (the cheapest intraday opportunity to buy in April was only 2 days after the bubble pop, whereas the final capitulation happened at a little bit higher level).

Because I am now so sure of this, I will seek the opportunities to trade the downtrend, sell up to 50% of my bitcoins with the intention to buy them back at the trendline, and to instruct the ones in their bitcoin accumulation phase to buy only very limited amounts when there is still air in the price.

Bitcoin is going to the moon, but it is not going to the moon overnight. I watched it go as close as possible to the moon from 0.25 to 32 and then to 2, which was my entry point. Realistically the following 6 months will not see similar development (going from 1000 to 128,000 per bitcoin, without stopping). If they do, then the other half of my bitcoins is worth so much that it gives me enough to think about.

The trendline (which I constructed anew from daily data) is now at 420, indicating that there is not much point to buy anything over 500 from the flashcrashes that will certainly continue during the following days and weeks.

If we allow 60 days of downtrend from the bubblepop (30.11.) to the final capitulation (est. 29.1.), the trendline is approximately at 590. The characteristic of a low is about -0.20...-0.30 relative valuation. To be on the safe side, we take -0.20, which corresponds to the target price of 372. To add some safety margin, the highest bids should be at 450 or so.

So now it's the time to be right and sit tight (this time with the fiat of your choice). Objectively bitcoin is now expensive, and speculative selling at prices above 800 is a very good proposition. If you have been thinking where I've been the last few days, the answer is: selling. And running excel calculations. and selling some more.

I believe that bitcoin can reach 1 million dollars in 2016, but not now.

Selling now a large percentage of bitcoins with the intention to double the stash by buying at half the price 1-3 months from now has more than 50% probability of success, therefore is a +EV move. It would have been possible both in 2011 aftermath and at the top of the spring 2013 dcb. The only time it would not have been possible was after the 2010 "bubbles" that never popped and just went on. I think I have way better than 50% chances here - especially as the "negative" scenario is that I will be one of the richest people in the world Smiley

the is one of the most bullish news yet, even today after all these wall street etc. news Cheesy

He wants my cheap coins NEVARRRRR



394. Post 3928679 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

someone just bought coins for 1500 on cavirtex or a glitch occured.



395. Post 3929316 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Missed you guys, I can't wait till the bears comprehend that there could be a eurozone bail in. That should create a real bubble if anything



396. Post 3929516 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: OldGeek on December 12, 2013, 05:58:31 AM
Missed you guys, I can't wait till the bears comprehend that there could be a eurozone bail in. That should create a real bubble if anything

They should be waking up about now in the EU.  If they peek at BTC-e they might just jump in.

China is still bearish and who knows what's up with gox.  Stamp and BTC-e have been more or less on the same trend.

Next Wed will probably have a more concrete outlook on the whole euro zone issues. The coins could be relatively cheap compared to a panic to protect savings Cheesy



397. Post 3936314 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 12, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
Yep, that is very possible one. But imo, it has to go down first, hopefully soon.

We've just gone slightly beyond the point of a triangle as the shock waves get damped out and that triangle has an upward trend, it would take something fairly significant to change its direction (not that I go in for TA but harmonics and damping are relevant in all kinds of stuff).

Not that I disagree over much because everything so far suggests this should be the start of a fairly long downward trend but I also think the dumps may have been premature and there's upward pressure despite the caution.

all we need is a good bid wall and caution will be thrown out the window

I can wait a week till that Eurozone news disseminates to the masses. It took an awful specific search term to find it, and I had to show my dad he hadn't heard much about the whole deal and he' pays a fair bit of attention to global trends and politics. Sometimes patients works.. I know I could have sold at any of three daily tops now but I'd prefer to just hold atm.

Were like a rocket ship about to engage our stage 4 boosters. were almost out of our atmosphere and I'll just equate price drop in a change of velocity for a moment.. but remember there is less gravity in space Lol



398. Post 3936630 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

I kind've equate it all to the calm before the Storm the doom and gloom isn't being pushed regarding the eurozone talks, we literally have been on this path since Cyprus. We all know the economic numbers are weak and the un-employment numbers are really high.. and apparently in Spain after 8 months of searching for a job you will then be counted as Discouraged opposed to un-employed lol



399. Post 3936664 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on December 12, 2013, 05:55:15 PM
...
I can wait a week till that Eurozone news disseminates to the masses. It took an awful specific search term to find it, and I had to show my dad he hadn't heard much about the whole deal and he' pays a fair bit of attention to global trends and politics. Sometimes patients works.. I know I could have sold at any of three daily tops now but I'd prefer to just hold atm.

Were like a rocket ship about to engage our stage 4 boosters. were almost out of our atmosphere and I'll just equate price drop in a change of velocity for a moment.. but remember there is less gravity in space Lol

What news? Could you link please?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101263206

EDIT: A thread on it here too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368380

This will affect people with large savings. Which is good if they join the party but will they invest in BTC or take their money elsewhere?

Depends what you define by "large". People with tens of millions have offshore accounts and know-how to evade capital controls.
It's rather some of the middle class that is likely to jump onboard because of those news.

if it ain't insured you can probably watch it go go bye bye if its just cash holdings.. ofcourse it would be nice to imagine them all hedging their cash.



400. Post 3936736 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: ChartBuddy on December 12, 2013, 06:01:45 PM


no more goxxed Cheesy or was I just missing that ..either way ..the choo choo can no resume lol



401. Post 3937305 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: pickard on December 12, 2013, 06:42:24 PM
Always thought these were kind of silly. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/

What is MSM going to use for header images on articles now! The travesty.

Wish I had some of them, ,they're going to skyrocket now.

https://blockchain.info/block-index/447070/0000000000000003aa27a055682007e0273371d0bef2ea58f838ce0c0145a322

11000 BTC  sent in this last block!

Im guessing i know the reason!

The TX fees have been steadily increasing all day.  Be ready to dump if holding.  Just a heads up !!


https://blockchain.info/

That means nothing.  That block took twice as long as other blocks.  That's normal.  

40,000 in the last 7 blocks!  Bear flag showing on 2h gox chart,  head and shoulders pattern also indicates a big drop.

nothing is certain, but if holding be on guard and if going to sleep, think twice about holding btc overnight.

your post count signifies two things.. you come out during times of turmoil or your just a troll account.. I've yet to decide



402. Post 3937431 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: HigsonPP on December 12, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
i dont wanna sell because i will probably lose my coins, i am bad at trading. but it seems like theres not many people that want to buy at these prices anymore. all the good news in the world doesnt do anything anymore if people think price will drop.

There just waiting for the right time, the most important news requires more time to be checked out as its not a guarantee that we're going to see a eurozone bail in.. its just somewhat likely.


They saw what buying back in to early could do with our recent push past 1000, to many bears just wanting to sell there coins for the greedy purpose of doubling up.. imo.



403. Post 3937456 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: pickard on December 12, 2013, 06:53:29 PM
16,642.82 BTC sent on the last block.  These are constant and a lot bigger than the average amount of TX.

Just saying be ready if the shit hits the fan.

IMO unless you're here reading for the entertainment value (coins in cold storage possibly a block of ice), I'd assume everyone is ready ..whether they will join panic sells or not is another thing.



404. Post 3937514 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: HigsonPP on December 12, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
is it greedy to hold onto the most value if you think the market will move?

Nope.



405. Post 3937771 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: Mirsad on December 12, 2013, 07:18:43 PM
GOX Eu will test 416 Euro soon...
Time to unload coins @ 620-660 Euro. Better safe then sorry.

keep it up every time you guys say these things someone buys 40 coins, you can cause the rally kthx



406. Post 3937960 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 12, 2013, 07:25:54 PM
Gotta say, it's sure looking like we may see a serious bull OR bear TKO pretty soon.

On the one hand, there's plenty of reason for folks to sell off ahead of a large deepening decline, and the news is just recursive ditherings. *points to chart and news*

On the other, the chart reminds me a WHOLE LOT of the beginning of November, after coming off the ATH and coiling up for an upsurge. *points to chart and news*

Either way, next year we are going to see more massive ATH's. Might I suggest, that before that time (spring '14), many of us consider cold storage, for the sake of Baby Jesus (ahem, I meant the sake of getting some sleep, and reducing stress and BTC LOSS-- no offense to the Believers of Baby Jesus Magick).

I've had no problem sleeping since I missed my chance to sell at 1000-1100 before we found support at 540-630 depending where you traded. Sad I missed out but I'll keep my eyes open, just don't see that happening so close together especially since that drop was helped to go as low as it did.

I doubt we break out of 1000 again this week though, I however enjoy being wrong at times.

I can't help but remain optimistic. When my exchange has a constant back log of verifications, 40-100 processed a day with 60 new coming in a day has kept cavirtex with about 1400 people pending verification.



407. Post 3938008 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Bears more posts please, don't stop now.. we need more FUELLLLL.



408. Post 3938094 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 12, 2013, 07:40:04 PM
Fools sell below ath Grin (how's that for trolling)

Now I'm trolling.



409. Post 3938132 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on December 12, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
Another 16k in block 274536.

Something big is going down.  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

Ive only got about 10% in BTC the rest in dollars!  but I'm still nervous.

True that coins might not be moving to an exchange for a dump. But, bearish signs are everywhere. Also, new deposits halting as weekend approaches.

Odds of a rally are pretty low. Sell now to be safe.

Don't the size of the blocks include change?    Wink

Probably just Goat buying a private island Smiley

100 million in fiat.. for sales..whats bitpays fee and then how much btc to fiat conversion need to happen Cheesy got these bears freaking out seeing large btc transactions occuring



410. Post 3938182 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: TERA on December 12, 2013, 07:48:44 PM
Gotta say, it's sure looking like we may see a serious bull OR bear TKO pretty soon.

On the one hand, there's plenty of reason for folks to sell off ahead of a large deepening decline, and the news is just recursive ditherings. *points to chart and news*

On the other, the chart reminds me a WHOLE LOT of the beginning of November, after coming off the ATH and coiling up for an upsurge. *points to chart and news*

Either way, next year we are going to see more massive ATH's. Might I suggest, that before that time (spring '14), many of us consider cold storage, for the sake of Baby Jesus (ahem, I meant the sake of getting some sleep, and reducing stress and BTC LOSS-- no offense to the Believers of Baby Jesus Magick).

I've had no problem sleeping since I missed my chance to sell at 1000-1100 before we found support at 540-630 depending where you traded. Sad I missed out but I'll keep my eyes open, just don't see that happening so close together especially since that drop was helped to go as low as it did.

I doubt we break out of 1000 again this week though, I however enjoy being wrong at times.

I can't help but remain optimistic. When my exchange has a constant back log of verifications, 40-100 processed a day with 60 new coming in a day has kept cavirtex with about 1400 people pending verification.
I remember right before April crash mtgox had 12,000 pending verifications and was doing 1500 per day.

hairs cuts were being theorized.. by in large we need to see that bubble occur before we can worry about it.



411. Post 3938292 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on December 12, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
Bored of the 800s...

someone will come along and eat up the 895 or cheaper coins again.. fair bit bought at 900 there for a short period



412. Post 3942093 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

... I've only heard him say buy buy buy, and when he say sell he means sell him your cheap coins



413. Post 3942148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 13, 2013, 12:32:15 AM
Decision time again:

--Weekly with a 3 month WMA
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#igWeeklyztgCza1gWMAzm1g13zm2g25

--Hourly with a 1 day WMA and 7 day WMA
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30zigHourlyztgCza1gWMAzm1g24za2gWMAzm2g168

Scenarios:

1) Launch Zone to new ATH in 7 days.
2) 20% Side-ways trading for anther 2 weeks
3) Test of Low in 7 days


#2

but it will be more like 10% side-ways trading

Ah...you're back to sideways.


for 2 weeks

bitcoin market is getting really big

moves up or down is going to start to cost BIG ASS money, and so the moves UP or DOWN are going to be slower.

no more doubling in week.

I miss seeing 500 coins just go woosh, 100 coins is the largest buy I've seen since our last wall munch on the way to 1050,



414. Post 3951524 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: molecular on December 13, 2013, 05:22:00 PM
I've traded and made money. I'll trade again and try to make more. Skill, luck or whatever it would be, don't give a shit.

As long as you're having fun, go for it.

It's like the casino or race track. Enjoy the flashing lights and pretty horses as entertainment and if you get lucky and actually win something, consider it a bonus.

Just don't become one of those people who commit suicide in the casino parking lot because they took it too seriously.

I doubt I send signals as someone who would commit suicide for 900$ invested in BTC Cheesy

You guys are pussies Cheesy and are making a drama of trading really. There is no difference in making a bad trade and then wait for market to reverse than to hold coins, see it plummeting 50% and wait for market to reverse. The only difference is that trading can possibly make you more btc in that reverse and holding can't, only more fiat. That's why I think than those who talk mostly about holding are those that care most about fiat despite making it like they care most about btc Cheesy

Interesting take. In my case, though: pussy? yes. Loving fiat over bitcoin? no.


I guess as long as we're clear day trading with your whole stash of btc is a recipe to end up with no BTC, I am all for day trading just really need to observe bitcoin for a while. Or end up with gox dollars or pockets of fiat :d 



415. Post 3951676 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: TERA on December 13, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
Chinas supporting trend broken.Next step: daily EMA down cross. Victory for bears.

Well it was clarified that there will be no btc pricing for good and services in China for the time being.



416. Post 3951715 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: pera on December 13, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Chinas supporting trend broken.Next step: daily EMA down cross. Victory for bears.
agree, it looks pretty bearish... but today is Friday so this was expected
one of these Fridays will be different.. which one I do not know for sure.



417. Post 3951917 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

0.01 x 20 lol .. enjoy seeing those slow rolling walls of red 0.01s



418. Post 3952166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: bombartier357 on December 13, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
Nike 1k wall @ 920 on Gox, Intimidation or just trying to cash out  Huh hope he doesn't do a market order

Good question, my bots are 50/50 bull/bear right now.  I guess time will tell.

going to take my grandpa shopping.. if the btc gods see fit they will hold till I return. I doubt someone really wants to let em all go for that Cheesy maybe has some shorts Cheesy



419. Post 3952357 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on December 13, 2013, 06:37:03 PM
Something weird with the volume at stamp, looks a bit braindead so it could just be this new cross exchange thing from gox.

Friday has sadly had low volumes as of late. I hope to see a trend breaker. but who knows



420. Post 3955646 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on December 13, 2013, 11:27:12 PM
choo choo

been a lot of choo choo talk.. I guess they thought we'd be in double digis by now..if not singles



421. Post 3955727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: bootlace on December 13, 2013, 11:32:23 PM
Everybody understands that *if* this maintains itself (or go better) next week will be rising like hell... right?

No. Math says that it takes 10x more everything to make the price rise from 10x higher level.

We do not have 10 times more anything, compared to last summer. 5 times we have, so the price is overvalued by a factor of 2, and will go down -50%.

I have thousands of lines of research on the subject but nobody reads it anyway so why even post...

But this is btc:-D

Btc dont care

You should be the right person to bet for BTC against me... Grin

How about:
- Will Bitstamp surpass its ATH of $1163/BTC in 2 months?


- If this price is breached, Goat wins.
- If not (until February 13th 24:00 UTC), rpietila wins.

Bet amount is $50,000, (odds 1:1) paid in bitcoins at the rate of the settlement date.

Why am I not surprised not one 'bull' has taken up this more than fair bet... Bulls? More like 'CCMF' shouting cheerleaders.

yeah cause everyone walks around with 50k set aside to bet on this forum...



422. Post 3955968 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 13, 2013, 05:45:41 PM
Chinas supporting trend broken.Next step: daily EMA down cross. Victory for bears.
agree, it looks pretty bearish... but today is Friday so this was expected
one of these Fridays will be different.. which one I do not know for sure.

Please be a different Friday please be ! the weekends have been so boring



423. Post 3956002 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: Nolo on December 13, 2013, 11:58:56 PM
Everybody understands that *if* this maintains itself (or go better) next week will be rising like hell... right?

No. Math says that it takes 10x more everything to make the price rise from 10x higher level.

We do not have 10 times more anything, compared to last summer. 5 times we have, so the price is overvalued by a factor of 2, and will go down -50%.

I have thousands of lines of research on the subject but nobody reads it anyway so why even post...

But this is btc:-D

Btc dont care

You should be the right person to bet for BTC against me... Grin

How about:
- Will Bitstamp surpass its ATH of $1163/BTC in 2 months?


- If this price is breached, Goat wins.
- If not (until February 13th 24:00 UTC), rpietila wins.

Bet amount is $50,000, (odds 1:1) paid in bitcoins at the rate of the settlement date.

you make a claim that btc will go down 50%. Then try to make a bet that has nothing to do with btc going down 50%?

What am I missing?

+1

He kinda mentioned it, if he loses he has enough btc that it makes the 50,000 an eatable loss and not a net loss at all.. if he wins he gets 50k on top of the mound of Fiat he has. My guess atleast.



424. Post 3956133 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on December 14, 2013, 12:08:50 AM
$200 is easy as fuck, but i still dont get what this has to do with the claim btc WILL go down 50%

(good that I didnt close this yet) Wink

If you are willing to bet on the low point of BTC, I can do that also.

Do you pay me 2 to 1 in USD that Bitcoin will visit $450 in either Gox/Bitstamp in 3 months?

You lose, I get $50k.
I lose, you get $25k.



hmm, let me think about this for a second. I'm kind of wondering why you need 2 to 1 odds when you were so sure before.

..Rp believes in only win win for himself lol



425. Post 3965188 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

nice to the 1000 coins at 950 is gone for now



426. Post 3966233 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: Harley997 on December 14, 2013, 06:34:45 PM
hmmmm, price same as when i went to sleep.

what happened to that blatant manipulator guy that announced he would drive the price up? you know, the guy that people seem to believe...

soon is relative.



427. Post 3966379 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

..more of a stegosaurus I would say aligns better with a bull :d lol Gimpy armed T-Rex Bears inc



428. Post 3966423 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 14, 2013, 07:04:30 PM
..more of a stegosaurus I would say aligns better with a bull :d lol Gimpy armed T-Rex Bears inc

950 coin dump at 900 just eaten?



429. Post 3966464 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: Drabla on December 14, 2013, 07:09:37 PM

950 coin dump at 900 just eaten?

20:06:22   900.00000   823.8253    -   709 left... well at least some action after such a boring day Wink

I guess the real question is how many people want cheap coins before the Sunday rally.



430. Post 3966524 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on December 14, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
..more of a stegosaurus I would say aligns better with a bull :d lol Gimpy armed T-Rex Bears inc

950 coin dump at 900 just eaten?

Half eaten and the rest pulled.

was there 7xx at 885 already or did it just move on down Bob?



431. Post 3969102 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 14, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
Good grief. My question is if bitcoin doesn't go down today then will it go down at all short term?

I mean, these are ridicously bearish conditions, holidays, weekend, huge price run up, bearish triangles, mounting asks.

What's it going to take to tame this beast?

All of us are bearish right now very short term but the down trend is a trickle. What is going on bears?Huh You're letting us down!!!

I'm 100% BTC Grin Bitcoin just laughs and continues its journey to transform the whole world as we know it Cheesy

EDIT. okay i'm high again Grin

high on bitcoin? lol



432. Post 3969142 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: macsga on December 14, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
Good grief. My question is if bitcoin doesn't go down today then will it go down at all short term?

I mean, these are ridicously bearish conditions, holidays, weekend, huge price run up, bearish triangles, mounting asks.

What's it going to take to tame this beast?

All of us are bearish right now very short term but the down trend is a trickle. What is going on bears?Huh You're letting us down!!!

I'm 100% BTC Grin Bitcoin just laughs and continues its journey to transform the whole world as we know it Cheesy

EDIT. okay i'm high again Grin

high on bitcoin? lol

Aren't we all?? Grin

yes



433. Post 3978615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

[–]jessemfguire87 409 points 13 hours ago
Have you sold any of your bitcoin?
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[–]winky_pop 654 points 13 hours ago
I have yet to sell a single bitcoin.

[–]Plucky3 90 points 13 hours ago
Are you actively trading your bitcoin or are you just holding on to them? Do you think you can really predict price movements?
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[–]winky_pop 198 points 12 hours ago
Holding, Spartans hold. No, my crystal ball is broken ATM.

Adam sounds like he needs to subscribe



434. Post 3978733 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: John999 on December 15, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
5800 CNY  Shocked

No Harping on you cause you were right for to wait for 6100 to break with volume.. but do you think 4800 cny is more likely?



435. Post 3979528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: Tzupy on December 15, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
People who write code are today's rock stars.

edit: and now they're driving around in Lamborghinis....that's gonna only add to that rep Smiley

Not necessarily true, more likely their bosses do that.

with bitcoin you are your own boss. bub



436. Post 3979661 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: spooderman on December 15, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
Weekend dips are hardly TA. Less new money is a fairly sound thing to base predictions on is it not? Tell me what are YOUR predictions based on if not "technical analysis"? Lel

My hopes that the euro zone crisis includes a bail in?



437. Post 3979955 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: spooderman on December 15, 2013, 06:30:34 PM


its remarkable traders actually believe the TA myths

but hey i don't make the rules....

target : 5800CNY 3800CNY

 Cool

Weekend dips are hardly TA. Less new money is a fairly sound thing to base predictions on is it not? Tell me what are YOUR predictions based on if not "technical analysis"? Lel

TA is taking in all available info and predicting price movement

weekend dips myth, triangles myth, news, market sentiment, most probable early adopt positions etc....

so many factors most of them nonsense, only a god would know where price is going

lol sorry about the weird quoting Sad

Don't you run something called "bitmovements"?
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you can have a better idea.. but like he said only a god could predict price movements.

Going to go shovel snow, I predict soreness.. how much and where will depend on such factors like falling over.. not lifting with my back lol see you soon



438. Post 3980027 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

I just realized until bitcoin I never looked forward to it being Monday so much.



439. Post 3981072 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on December 15, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
Here's what I'm pulling out of my ass: if the day ends with the 1D candle in green territory and if tomorrow we also get another green candle, then choo choo is more likely than trainwreck.

Nevertheless: every day that passes with btcusd over 800 makes this new price range generally accepted and hence a return to the 500's less likely. In which case I'd kinda feel sorry for rpietila because he has made some great contributions to the forum. While being happy for myself of course Cheesy


just gives strength to the market goes opposite of his theory, theory.

I fear the bubble that could occur following bail-in talks Wednesday. Besides that the Nation of India is catching on to Bitcoin the days are bright ahead.



440. Post 3984240 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: mb300sd on December 15, 2013, 11:52:34 PM
Love watching the bitch ass bears fold out..  love it.

You do realize that in Poker, the ones losing the most are the ones who go all-in when their cards are not as strong?

Historically in bitcoin, the only losers haven been the ones who sold.

have lost a chance for future gains Cheesy but of course it was so much easier to buy and hold.



441. Post 3987169 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 16, 2013, 05:21:19 AM
You get into whale land at >10k coins to play with.

I don't know man... maybe 6 months ago.

3k coins makes you a multi-millionaire right now. I'd say that is already a pretty heavy fish.


big difference between fish (even heavy ones ) and whales.. and I mean they ain't even the same species



442. Post 3988337 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.38h):

350 the most i've seen so far this Monday eastern time.



443. Post 3997157 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Laugh at the death of btc.. were not even as low as the last bottom...however I don't get why the price has moved...guess Bobby's statements were taken to heart.. Oh well now we play the how low can she go game.



444. Post 3997249 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: TheCoinBull on December 16, 2013, 07:43:34 PM
Tiiiiimmmmmmber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMPgNrZ52E

I remain bullish I think people are being tricked in to selling low right before a fucking bail in might be announced.. who gives a fuck if Bobby is trying to cover his ass from a Chinese dirt nap.



445. Post 3997320 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Dear BTC China valued customer: To stabilize the recent turbulent Bitcoin market and minimize potential market manipulation, BTC China will end the 0% trading fee promotion, effective immediately, and revert to the 0.3% trading fee. We deeply apologize for the sudden change. BTC China, December 16, 2013


that seems bullish..less whales operating with 0% fee ... I think the Chinese government ensured they got there hands on cheap coins lol



446. Post 3997411 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on December 16, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
Dear BTC China valued customer: To stabilize the recent turbulent Bitcoin market and minimize potential market manipulation, BTC China will end the 0% trading fee promotion, effective immediately, and revert to the 0.3% trading fee. We deeply apologize for the sudden change. BTC China, December 16, 2013


that seems bullish..less whales operating with 0% fee ... I think the Chinese government ensured they got there hands on cheap coins lol

or: we realize our business is over, so we want to make some money at the end of it.  Sorry for screwing you.

I highly doubt its over but nothing is impossible...from what I've read we're basing this all of rumors from POCB meeting with 3rd party depositers.



447. Post 3997498 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: macsga on December 16, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
i need a cigarette this is too much  Undecided  Cry




Don't do it; light up a cigar...

I promise. It's gonna be huge when reverted. This is orchestrated - nothing to do with news. Wink

can't lie this is what I want to believe.  The truth will roll out Wednesday if they bang out a bail in plan. However the price has to move.. there is less demand in a fear stricken market.. and so the whales get more coins they sold at a higher prices.. again back at a lower one.. ahh I can't wait till mild adoption..



448. Post 3997627 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: Mirsad on December 16, 2013, 08:02:58 PM
looks like rptilia is going to come out OK after all

There were enough people warning about this serious downtrade.. but hyperbulls are dellusional.

lol, you mean ..another fear article was shot in to the media and absorbed like no tomorrow

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on December 16, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
damn I sold all, cant resist. What a loss...

eugh.. I can still sell all my coins and be up a grand and some change.. but meh I didn't get it to sell 2-3 months down the road.. and I don't like to join panic sells because it's just making money off of people who panic. I should be more bloody thirsty but meh.

yeah my first bell ding to a buyer of 100+ coins lol

if there is any truth to money sitting on the sidelines they're going to be watching closely to decide what the bottom is today.. if they don't we probably slide maybe to Rp trendline.



449. Post 3997717 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: humanitee on December 16, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
looks like rptilia is going to come out OK after all

There were enough people warning about this serious downtrade.. but hyperbulls are dellusional.

Seriously? People are acting like this news was out and priced in weeks ago, it just came out last night.

it did come out about a week ago. The full understanding of it has been yet to play out.. this news is str8 up un confirmed talks between POBC and 3rd party depositers

however.. the volumes don't match up with the last drop, much more were sold on the way to 570 last time, I think we're gonna see an epic bear trap... but not like to 10000 overnight.. just probably low 850s



450. Post 3997783 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on December 16, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Lol, china wins for curves this time and stamp gets disqualified for turtling Smiley

In reality.. the smartest people are those on BTCChina waiting for all time lows if this exchange is going down.. hey all my cash into btc sell at another exchange when the prices stabilizes....and while I am at it I'll just move to a country that likes human rights and I can do so now that my fiat is in btc except for the plane, train or automobile ticket.



451. Post 3997859 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on December 16, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Lol, china wins for curves this time and stamp gets disqualified for turtling Smiley

In reality.. the smartest people are those on BTCChina waiting for all time lows if this exchange is going down.. hey all my cash into btc sell at another exchange when the prices stabilizes....and while I am at it I'll just move to a country that likes human rights and I can do so now that my fiat is in btc except for the plane, train or automobile ticket.

Except they don't realize their country is shit any more than Americans do.

come to Canada then, were not so bad. But no where is really perfect can't wait till Goat buys an island and we can move there and start a btc only community.



452. Post 3997925 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: Hawkix on December 16, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
I really start feeling stupid for not selling a single coin since I bought some in late summer... It seems that all bulls sold at least some of their coins during the runup?
But on the other side, I do not have many coins and I believe a much greater value will be achieved during the next years, so I don't want to "lose" some due to bad trading (even I'd profit $-wise).
It just feels strange to lose more dollars than I ever owned...

I thought the same on April this year. Calm down, everybody.

+1 a week ago a bigger crash occurred faster and more severely 30k coins solid in the first leg down from 1200, panic helps no1 but the whales



453. Post 3997988 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on December 16, 2013, 08:26:08 PM
another rebounce, but the dump didnt end yet look at this https://blockchain.info/block-index/450701/0000000000000002ed7a702d90aca7373dc61e2a0ddd182092835fa95c2616a1

and this https://blockchain.info/block-index/450703/0000000000000001a951ed92e4391f8852b5056ff265232bb32192d331a8fb18

still something doesn't feel right to me, now dont tell me it is normal, there was more than 600K bitcoin in the last 20 block, and all were using mixing service, now if you can explain that I will be really thankful  

You're right, they were mixed. What the hell is up with that?

the first block appeared when price was still over 800, I told the guys that there will be a dump and I decided to sell 50% just to be sure, then all blocks followed and the dump started, there was a block with more than 170K and another with more than 80K and few with more than 50K....

I tried to follow the transactions but they were too long, so I dont know what the hell is going on, but I still believe that part of it was dumped....

There's something else big going on here that we can't see.

like I said less than two days from now the eurozone resumes talks of plans that start with cyprus style bail ins. If the whales just fleeced people out of 200-300$ discounts  there going to be laughing riding on the bubble a eurozone bail in will create.



454. Post 3998107 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on December 16, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
I really start feeling stupid for not selling a single coin since I bought some in late summer... It seems that all bulls sold at least some of their coins during the runup?
But on the other side, I do not have many coins and I believe a much greater value will be achieved during the next years, so I don't want to "lose" some due to bad trading (even I'd profit $-wise).
It just feels strange to lose more dollars than I ever owned...

I thought the same on April this year. Calm down, everybody.

True, however, if you made profit, I'd suggest to cash out at least the initial investment. Does wonders to your sanity and the sense of serenity during the turbulent times such as this. But don't cash out now.

You might want to cash something out now. Just saying.
I can almost hear the shaking of your body in your words.

you shouldn't be selling unless you NEED the money ( bills, food, a part of your monthly budget) if not calm the fuck down as any news about China gets blown so far out of fucking context is makes me sick.

"At the moment, these claims are still rumours, as neither the PBOC nor any payment company has issued a statement to confirm what was discussed and what the outcome was. However, our source revealed they got their information from various channels, including those people who were at the meeting." http://www.coindesk.com/china-bans-payment-companies-working-bitcoin-exchanges-sources-claim/

I mean I'd love to believe that one article with non official sources would be 100% true but I don't buy it.. just like I am not buying the eurozone bail in discussion till they have a plan on the table thats agreed upon



455. Post 3998166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: Cheesle on December 16, 2013, 08:36:55 PM
I really start feeling stupid for not selling a single coin since I bought some in late summer... It seems that all bulls sold at least some of their coins during the runup?
But on the other side, I do not have many coins and I believe a much greater value will be achieved during the next years, so I don't want to "lose" some due to bad trading (even I'd profit $-wise).
It just feels strange to lose more dollars than I ever owned...

I thought the same on April this year. Calm down, everybody.

True, however, if you made profit, I'd suggest to cash out at least the initial investment. Does wonders to your sanity and the sense of serenity during the turbulent times such as this. But don't cash out now.

You might want to cash something out now. Just saying.

Nope. Now I will hold of course... And I know that it always looks easy in hindsight. And I bought them for the long run in the first place, didn't expect such a huge rise that soon, so I guess everything is alright Cheesy
It just feels weird right now. Thanks anyway Smiley

a Jr. member with a brain of his or her own.. Clap Clap heres to more people like you Cheesy



456. Post 3998190 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: oda.krell on December 16, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
I really start feeling stupid for not selling a single coin since I bought some in late summer... It seems that all bulls sold at least some of their coins during the runup?
But on the other side, I do not have many coins and I believe a much greater value will be achieved during the next years, so I don't want to "lose" some due to bad trading (even I'd profit $-wise).
It just feels strange to lose more dollars than I ever owned...

I thought the same on April this year. Calm down, everybody.

True, however, if you made profit, I'd suggest to cash out at least the initial investment. Does wonders to your sanity and the sense of serenity during the turbulent times such as this. But don't cash out now.

You might want to cash something out now. Just saying.
I can almost hear the shaking of your body in your words.

you shouldn't be selling unless you NEED the money ( bills, food, a part of your monthly budget) if not calm the fuck down as any news about China gets blown so far out of fucking context is makes me sick.

"At the moment, these claims are still rumours, as neither the PBOC nor any payment company has issued a statement to confirm what was discussed and what the outcome was. However, our source revealed they got their information from various channels, including those people who were at the meeting." http://www.coindesk.com/china-bans-payment-companies-working-bitcoin-exchanges-sources-claim/

I mean I'd love to believe that one article with non official sources would be 100% true but I don't buy it.. just like I am not buying the eurozone bail in discussion till they have a plan on the table thats agreed upon

What's wrong with selling.

Don't tell me you're one of those people that don't understand how markets work -- if it weren't for someone selling at some point, you would have exactly zero coins. (Unless you're a miner, in which case you still need people selling otherwise your coins are worthless as well)

nothing is wrong with selling.. a lot is wrong with panic selling.. and that is a majority of what I see pushed



457. Post 3998272 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on December 16, 2013, 08:42:25 PM
China going down slowly. Not sure if I should buy back or not  Huh

Last crash played out over 2 days ( dec5-7 almost in to 8 ) however the low was hit about 24hrs from the first drop.. I sold at 870 had I waited 24 hrs I was laughing got back in much earlier and saved myself some stress but lost future profits.

With that being said analyze the information you have.. and find a re-entry point(at a gain and loss) that seems reasonable since I believe you already sold.
Either way you need to find a reason why you think the crash slides, drops or ends.



458. Post 3998325 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.39h):

Quote from: spooderman on December 16, 2013, 08:46:55 PM
I think we may have bottomed out

so the bottom has yet to be found. I can see hitting 6s on the wave of more panic. I thought last week was a nice crash course for newbies.. but oh wellz.

the upside we finish Monday at 800 maybe 825 but I think this requires news out of China lol



459. Post 3998567 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

I made a sandwich ( put pre made tuna salad on toast ) and were up 20-30 bucks lol I'll make more sandwiches now



460. Post 3998953 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

800.00 here we come and i thought that was if were lucky. 825 next stop?



461. Post 3998985 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on December 16, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
$4000 loss today, thats enough for today.

these lessons are harsh. My friends the turmoil is not over but remain ever prepared



462. Post 3998995 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on December 16, 2013, 09:31:39 PM
trap?

tempted to sell one or two if Cavirtex make the 800 mark if they go and break my 825 high for the day I think all bets are off though.

I also would like to re iterate the money on the sidelines waiting to jump at the right moment.



463. Post 3999051 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: seleme on December 16, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
The knife been well and truly caught?

not necessarily, it went up on very low volume. 1000 btc dump at china or gox and we're on bottom again.

468 got munched by gox like it was snack still at 810 somehow



464. Post 3999814 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: oda.krell on December 16, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
[...]

nothing is wrong with selling.. a lot is wrong with panic selling.. and that is a majority of what I see pushed

It's only panic selling if you didn't conclude price will continue to fall and you sell anyway.

I see more and more evidence that this correction is far from over.

Hence my recommendation: wait for a moderate rebound (tonight? tomorrow maybe?), take a long, hard look at the charts and the tools of your choice, and then decide if it's time to sell some.



Especially take a look at the 3 months or 6 months charts to see where it's going.


Which monthly charts did you have in mind? The one from Q3/4 2011, or the one from Q2 this year?







In reality, I get your point of course. But do you get mine as well?




Related to our sell vs no sell talks, I am happy for everyone who sold at the highs, clearly we've temporarily bottom'd out. To sell at the 720 and below range was silly, since someone was advising some to take some profit. Shortly following this convo beginning it almost broke 825, I would've been more alright with them selling on that very next up tick even.

I should always clarify I have no problem with people selling...as long as they came to that decision on their own opposed to following peoples advice without reading the theory behind or fact checking news articles getting familiar with charts etc.

I myself have been tempted to sell at the 3-4 highs and make 50 - 100 a coin minus 1.5% fees and those just intra day fluctuations. However I remain bullish and remain interested in the eurozone bail in talks.. this news could take us to a new bubble and in that one I see myself selling.



465. Post 3999984 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 16, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
next leg down starts now

would appear so..not on the 4hr gox chart yet tho Cheesy



466. Post 4000010 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: alexeft on December 16, 2013, 10:35:35 PM


IF the bail in for the eurozone works like that of Cyprus, then you may end up "using" your stash rather than exchanging it for worthless euro's

 Roll Eyes Grin

I don't doubt it, Germany is pretty much slowing the process down cause why would they want to bail in the others Cheesy



467. Post 4000187 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on December 16, 2013, 10:48:17 PM


IF the bail in for the eurozone works like that of Cyprus, then you may end up "using" your stash rather than exchanging it for worthless euro's

 Roll Eyes Grin

I don't doubt it, Germany is pretty much slowing the process down cause why would they want to bail in the others Cheesy

You don't understand. A "bail-in" is when depositor money is confiscated to save the bank. It's the scenario Germany wants!

It's the scenario every bank in Europe wants, the entire f'ing economy is based on creative accounting so they'll have no trouble with loss-free bankruptcies to get their hands on savers money.

why would you think Germany who isn't hurting as bad, would want to include their own citizens in that type of bail in?

"Then, if more cash is needed, national resolution funds would be used. And if further funds are needed, these would be pooled from across the region over the next five to 10 years, forming the basis of a common fund." - http://www.cnbc.com/id/101263206

"But details of the plan have proved controversial, with countries such as Germany - the euro zone's biggest economy and therefore the largest contributor to rescue efforts - opposed to a system which would see failing banks tap a euro zone rescue fund." - http://www.cnbc.com/id/101263206



468. Post 4000233 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: windjc on December 16, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
so no update on that china news.

i can't wait for an update, as i understand it, its not clear if deposits to BTCChain are really going to be stopped.

No money into china BTC on fiatleak for the last 2 hours (thats when I opened it). I don't know how fiatleak does it's thing, but it seems to indicate something has already stopped.

Well, from what I am gathering, China does not allow for investing in gold and silver through 3rd party processors either. Only through the banks. So this would make a lot of sense if this is what is happening for bitcoin as well.

And it would make for a healthier market long term. But, short term its going to have an effect, for sure.

China was like oh hai btc cool, hey everyone this is btc. Then it was like oh hai our people might be taking money out of the country with btc not cool. Oh hai why don't we just regulate it the way we regulate everything Cheesy the last oh hai is my guess at their next stance on bitcoin.



469. Post 4000400 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: gizmoh on December 16, 2013, 11:06:11 PM
After all these insults against bears...

Bear Parade once 500 broken?  Roll Eyes

Back to earth bulls!!!!

yeah cause bears were in the closed door meetings with unconfirmed news from unconfirmed sources, hello full on panic bears.



470. Post 4001075 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: proudhon on December 16, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
Stop buying guys!!!  More proof of imminent bitcoin shutdown here.

Headline Translation:  China announces imminent shutdown of bitcoin network with codes taken from detained Satoshi Nakamoto.  Declares bitcoin global economic virus.


you seriously need to stop, news don't know about ignore.

On other notes. I thought 1k was June 2014 territory Bitcoin is a honey badger.



471. Post 4001096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

4hr charts on gox looking healthy. Seems to me we got a lot of buyers willing to risk there fiat at these prices.



472. Post 4001155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

a new leg begins on the 4hr chart. will it be green as well or remain red thats my new hobby. at least its Christmas colored

thx for turning it green whoever grabbed a 100 coins at 769 Cheesy



473. Post 4001348 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRducErGG1U

if we never come back.. this will be my honorary album



474. Post 4001376 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

I am going to go expend energy towards keep my vascular system healthy, but fuck it might just collapse when I get back.  However I really hope we can finish to day at 8 and not 650 or something scurrier.



475. Post 4004413 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: TheCoinBull on December 17, 2013, 05:15:42 AM
Its 1PM in China. BTC-e China 3800. Mt. Gox 700 Still lol. Bitstamp 660... Need I say more. The Asians who are still in will always be in because they understand the fundamentals. Suckers sold, an have hopefully lost enough to gain some sense.

I wont lie in any panic mode sell off I can only think of why the fuck are people such sheep, then I remember why and remember it's what will make us rich cause we held. Or like Adam bought on dips Tongue I don't think were done with this.. but if Wednesday has euro zone agreements get ready for mars.



476. Post 4004442 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 16, 2013, 08:21:46 PM
Lol, china wins for curves this time and stamp gets disqualified for turtling Smiley

In reality.. the smartest people are those on BTCChina waiting for all time lows if this exchange is going down.. hey all my cash into btc sell at another exchange when the prices stabilizes....and while I am at it I'll just move to a country that likes human rights and I can do so now that my fiat is in btc except for the plane, train or automobile ticket.

Except they don't realize their country is shit any more than Americans do.

come to Canada then, were not so bad. But no where is really perfect can't wait till Goat buys an island and we can move there and start a btc only community.

I know this got buried, but Goat at least 2 people are willing to vote you for El Presidente of your own Island lol I'll pitch some btc if were getting a share of the island Cheesy



477. Post 4004496 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: Peter R on December 17, 2013, 05:23:19 AM
Let's imagine for a second that BTCChina is shutting down*.  So the small fish start to panic and sell their coins, like they've been doing all day.  But for every coin that gets sold, one also gets bought.  So who is buying?  I would expect it to be long-term bulls and insiders who knew about this move in advance.  

So the question is what are these people going to do with these coins since they can no longer sell them in China?  I would argue that they would actually behave more like "strong hands" and consider them a diversified asset outside the reach of the Chinese gov (just like how wealthy mid-level Chinese come to Vancouver and buy expensive real-estate with questionable funds).  I really can't see them dumping the coins on BitStamp and then wiring the proceeds back into the Chinese money-prison.  In other words, although BTCChina shutting down would reduce demand, it would also reduce supply.  

Over the next year, the price continues to rise and the Chinese holding these bitcoin do well since they have funds they can enjoy internationally outside the watching eye of the communist party.  Their friends soon become jealous and want in on the game, increasing demand.  Meanwhile, the small fishes that are panic selling now realize they were fleeced and promise not to let this happen again.  

Maybe I'm blinded by my bullishness, but, once again, I see this as anti-fragility in action.  

*I think people can still deposit/withdraw via bank transfer

As of now we know nothing for certain. but its most likely with the style of enforcement the Chinese government is known for, we should expect at least the tightening of the leash on these exchanges which is my opinion. A tightening of regulations which has happened pretty much anywhere a country has come to except BTC as a form of currency and or commodity.



478. Post 4004589 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on December 17, 2013, 05:34:47 AM
Lol, china wins for curves this time and stamp gets disqualified for turtling Smiley

In reality.. the smartest people are those on BTCChina waiting for all time lows if this exchange is going down.. hey all my cash into btc sell at another exchange when the prices stabilizes....and while I am at it I'll just move to a country that likes human rights and I can do so now that my fiat is in btc except for the plane, train or automobile ticket.

Except they don't realize their country is shit any more than Americans do.

come to Canada then, were not so bad. But no where is really perfect can't wait till Goat buys an island and we can move there and start a btc only community.

I know this got buried, but Goat at least 2 people are willing to vote you for El Presidente of your own Island lol I'll pitch some btc if were getting a share of the island Cheesy

Been looking at islands for a while now but btc still has a way to go before this happens.

Well keep us in the loop a btc pool to start a new civilization sounds like fun. Wasn't suggesting the Island had to be in Canada ..but let choose somewhere safe from most global warming and tsunami's not caused by meteors bigger the a football field hitting the ocean.



479. Post 4004686 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

250 sell vs 580 buy.. big bang .. jumping around



480. Post 4004722 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 17, 2013, 05:50:36 AM
Lol, china wins for curves this time and stamp gets disqualified for turtling Smiley

In reality.. the smartest people are those on BTCChina waiting for all time lows if this exchange is going down.. hey all my cash into btc sell at another exchange when the prices stabilizes....and while I am at it I'll just move to a country that likes human rights and I can do so now that my fiat is in btc except for the plane, train or automobile ticket.

Except they don't realize their country is shit any more than Americans do.

come to Canada then, were not so bad. But no where is really perfect can't wait till Goat buys an island and we can move there and start a btc only community.

I know this got buried, but Goat at least 2 people are willing to vote you for El Presidente of your own Island lol I'll pitch some btc if were getting a share of the island Cheesy

Been looking at islands for a while now but btc still has a way to go before this happens.

Well keep us in the loop a btc pool to start a new civilization sounds like fun. Wasn't suggesting the Island had to be in Canada ..but let choose somewhere safe from most global warming and tsunami's not caused by meteors bigger the a football field hitting the ocean.

+1 To all good things about this idea. I can build things, actual things... like houses and furniture-- I'm basically a sustainable carpenter/builder who's switching into coding, as I've gotten bored of building (kinda). I could put together a nice natural compound FWIW.

Fack I'll do whatever and learn whatever. Sadly I am educated in business and computer repair lol. Mind you can we all agree early on some interesting ways to power the island of our future sovereign nation lol no one is allowed to bring any kool-aid either



481. Post 4004765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Question, I've seen the idea of U.S Day traders getting on to BTCChina to play with the 0% fees. 0.03% is pretty minute fee charge still but combined with an uncertain future how fast do you think we see the money flow back towards non Chinese based exchanges? If they know as a group that there could be a significant rush to do so, it may lead to many of them also wanting to buy back at the lowest prices possible before a self induced bubble of fiat flows back.

Wasn't Rp talking about having a bunch of cny in nov. ? how does he bring it back home? besides possibly  buying back btc? and moving it to a non cny exchange?

Stamp seems to be alive and chasing after GOX



482. Post 4004809 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: fred1111 on December 17, 2013, 06:04:05 AM
We need a longer consolidation in the 700's to refuel the rocket. But hey, this is Bitcoin so what do I know.

I think we can all just agree to chill in the 700-900 range Cheesy



483. Post 4004844 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 17, 2013, 06:08:13 AM
bounce over?

someone hold me

BTCBTCBTC here Adam something that loves to be held.



484. Post 4004966 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: mb300sd on December 17, 2013, 06:23:56 AM
ITS GOING UP!┗(°0°)┛

Please hit 800 when I wake up...

I like seeing people by 600 coins at a time.. makes me think I am not crazy lol



485. Post 4005041 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: seleme on December 17, 2013, 06:32:51 AM
Bulltrap or China news were FUD?

Hmm or China is getting the cold shoulder from the rest of btc holders. there still at 650, stamps even up at 730 lol cavirtex 761



486. Post 4005176 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: mufa23 on December 17, 2013, 06:56:28 AM
Why does Gox resemble like a cemetery.. seems like the api change turned many bots off.  No proper decline or bounce.
dunno... wondered myself.


are you looking at volumes? 4hr charts are nutzo



487. Post 4005223 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 17, 2013, 07:03:08 AM
V. close to Fibonacci retrace (618) from significant psychological 1000 ... maybe 613 was the new base?

but where do we go from there : D



488. Post 4005285 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on December 17, 2013, 07:07:58 AM
V. close to Fibonacci retrace (618) from significant psychological 1000 ... maybe 613 was the new base?

but where do we go from there : D

On that theory next significant stop 1618 .... choo choo?

Choo Choo, lol 772 as you say that Cheesy



489. Post 4005346 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: seleme on December 17, 2013, 07:13:57 AM
This looks like short covering.

This is strangely bullish movements on China. I have a hard time buying this. Literally and figuratively.

Epic bull trap or news came in that news were FUD.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1t2iay/okcoincom_present_situation_in_china_to_clear/ bull fud or .. calming market news



490. Post 4005366 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: seriouscoin on December 17, 2013, 07:18:51 AM
I think we will go up up up , to 1000 and maybe correct to 850-900 then the rally will start again


most important we did hit 600 as I predicted, most big players sold yesterday, so it is only weak hands playing now

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes No stupid, its the weak hands got shaken off. Big players have been buying like crazy. Did you watch the market at all?


don't be so mean, he's not totally wrong.. there could be people who sold at 1200 who may have just started buying back.



491. Post 4005393 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

http://www.btc38.com/btc/btc_market/476.html more..google translate ftw. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1t2mec/youve_been_duped_china_may_not_be_a_paragon_of/



492. Post 4014093 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

4hr MACD loooking good don't lie to me MACd! They have yet to not tell the truth when a trend like this start and ends Cheesy here we come 1600



493. Post 4014223 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: TERA on December 17, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
4hr MACD loooking good don't lie to me MACd! They have yet to not tell the truth when a trend like this start and ends Cheesy here we come 1600

Is it just "looking good" or is it CROSSED? Because the former is a trap.

It hasn't crossed that would require a decent amount of buying still, I'd expect we'll know about his by 7pm est



494. Post 4017317 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on December 18, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
I need some coins in the lower 600's.

You'll get them tomorrow.

right after someone fakes a twitter saying the bail in is ago and we go to the moon. Yeah lol



495. Post 4017499 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.40h):

Quote from: ChrisML on December 18, 2013, 12:45:37 AM
Going hard.



stay calm relax the bears are trying to spook you again. Whether or not the price as of now is over valued can be debated but we all know this is still relatively cheap coins. I don't see anything really stopping the adoption risk takers are still seeing this as a golden opportunity. The system has money coming in via investment in to the infrastructure of bitcoin you wanna sell now so you can buy low on a possibly crash to the 400 consult your crystal ball and make a choice. Otherwise I'll think about selling by june 2014, the time I pegged 1k/BTC back in October.



496. Post 4019658 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 18, 2013, 04:44:44 AM
strap yourselves in boys

bottom is about to fall out again

Wearing two pairs of underwear.



497. Post 4019689 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

I missed yesterday when gox gave zero fucks about china.. speaking of which its almost $20 from being at 500 usd... I do not like how panic spreads... eugh  sadly tempted to try increase btc holdings... in such turmoil but then I should've gave in to greed back at 1k lol



498. Post 4020107 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 18, 2013, 05:37:41 AM
Fuck, there we go.

I should've sold instead of posting.

I was thinking that 20 minutes ago. I am still thinking lol. This all look so panicky. But since I have no fiat in the exchange. I want to be able to buy cheaper coins if the panic continues to spread. Apparently were all very attached to btcchina still



499. Post 4020164 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 18, 2013, 05:45:45 AM
wow 593 on virtex should i buy, should i do it, should i! Grin Grin Grin

I should've made a damned bill payment lol Cheesy cot dam



500. Post 4020179 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: seriouscoin on December 18, 2013, 05:47:42 AM
wow 593 on virtex should i buy, should i do it, should i! Grin Grin Grin

Yes you should




just checking ..but this is because you think the bounce will be redonkulus?



501. Post 4020249 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 18, 2013, 05:51:13 AM
570!


WOOT WOOT

i love buying  Cheesy

551, Dunno why I didnt sell at 651,751 bahh hum bug.. I knew the panic was gonna stop for a while Sad I believe in bitcoin to, just selling to buy at a lower price was my only current method available to increase my btc holding



502. Post 4020268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: flyG on December 18, 2013, 05:55:18 AM
Just went 90% fiat as price was about to break my average buy price (started to buy $100, doubled at $1000).
I think we're heading towards ~$100 prices again, and that this crash that divided bitcoin value by 10 in a week will vastly hurt the network/eco-system.
Really thought I would hold stronger but there is so much pressure & bad press incoming that any good press / projects will be delayed / diluted.
I'm still bullish on the long term but clearly it'll take months to recover from this.

Quite sad the party didn't last.

so what happens if China can still buy coins next week? we just slowly climb? or everyone sitting in heavy fiat rushes back in ?



503. Post 4020390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: keewee on December 18, 2013, 06:09:31 AM
2600 broken

chikun little says the sky is falling



504. Post 4020406 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Mirsad on December 18, 2013, 06:10:02 AM
Nice bubble  Grin
And most bulls here didn't get out near the top  Tongue
Haha

Well that's if you really put all your faith in China determining our prices. Obviously the panic is rampant now we shall see how low she can go.



505. Post 4020441 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: keewee on December 18, 2013, 06:13:22 AM
2600 broken

chikun little says the sky is falling

lol, I was just stating a fact  Smiley

not calling you a chikun little .. calling btcchina that



506. Post 4020492 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

2100 at 600 LIKE BOOM



507. Post 4020652 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: seleme on December 18, 2013, 06:30:39 AM
Seriously guys, why do you keep buying my 550 coins for 570??  Grin

China why not go and stay above 2900 Cheesy lol, stamp at 600 before gox for a second LOl the markets are alive I say. The really crucial moment comes when we see whether or not institutional money is sitting on the sides and what they thought the new low will be.



508. Post 4020711 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: seleme on December 18, 2013, 06:36:41 AM
I'm curious .. what is the rationale behind people buying on BTC China right now?  Are they thinking "no inflow, legal outflow = priceless BTC" ?


yeah that was my thought ...dead locked up wheels screeching HALT on any purchases in China as people will probably sell or hoard what they have
depending on how they want to use btc internally

if 1/2 the btc purchase and such was china...well my fear is if say another gov't says hey.....lets lock btc down too! Argentina comes to mind.

they can always move their coins to non-chinese exchanges. Like immediately after buying them-.

exactly what I was thinking yesterday. I honestly hope the eurozone drops a bomb tomorrow and the biggest bear trap ever occurs. I am also sad I had no fiat able to buy in at these lower prices.



509. Post 4020763 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: keewee on December 18, 2013, 06:41:08 AM
To the moon!  Cheesy Grin

lol

I am rewarded by not panic selling, but were not out of the weeds yet.. As far as China goes they haven't really stopped the chance of CNY RMB inflow permanently as much as they bought some time to properly regulate the flows doesn't mean btc is done there at all...such FUDge pushers out there.

look at cavirtex go 625 lol following gox again.



510. Post 4020833 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Mirsad on December 18, 2013, 06:48:41 AM
my avg price is 588

fuck i'm good!

Don't blow your load too early, son!

and i'm only like 25% in

wtf

i need to check my sums, this is to good to be true.



We will drop at least 20-30% more. Europe wakes up. 7:45am here. Not all are up or @ computers.
Wait 2-3h for the next selloff.

why would europe matter, they're more likely to buy if China keeps buying lol

China is what mid day right now



511. Post 4020893 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 18, 2013, 06:55:10 AM


Imma be up all night for this one. Time to play some games so I don't go insane watching these jumpes.. lol stamp is on its own trend.



512. Post 4020989 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: windjc on December 18, 2013, 07:04:59 AM
Good morning guys, what the hell is happening, I don't want to read all 20 pages !!!!!!



World is ending,  grab a chair.

Lol. I love you guys.

What an adventure bitcoin is.



I was just looking at 1W chart in log, looks pretty



513. Post 4021025 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: jasonjm on December 18, 2013, 07:11:36 AM
ok so if you sell on gox, how in lords name do you get the fiat out of there?



apparently the gox dollar is no longer an issue LOL small withdrawals bit by bit?



514. Post 4021762 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: tbcoin on December 18, 2013, 08:20:36 AM
6k coins to 360 on gox Grin
Huh
23k  coins to 360 on gox
dumping begins



515. Post 4022345 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Vycid on December 18, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
Did Risto start buying or why are we going up? Wink

For the same reason any market goes up: because it went too low.

577 already on gox lol, these rubber bands



516. Post 4022490 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Loaded on December 18, 2013, 09:18:53 AM
This is why I tell people bitcoin will succeed. Any amount can be moved around the world in minutes. While I'm on the phone for hours with "personal bankers" who are supposed to be there for you 24/7, and still can't get a wire into any exchange in a timely fashion. This is my money, and my clients money, we should be able to move it wherever we want. We're talking 10s of millions, not some small transfer where they'll screw around with you for calling late at night.

I wish you all the best, I have to wait 3 days to get my fiat flowing Cheesy Hopefully you and your clients get some cheap Chinese coins



517. Post 4022615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Syke on December 18, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
Ok, we've been stable for 20 minutes. Time to go all honey badger again.

there have been many of these moments lately. I'll chill the fuck out when someone buy 2.5k coins in a single buy.

also to the doom and gloom about China.. why don't we wait for them to actually say something. We know they were asked to stop using third party deposit systems and Chinese companies love to self censor so we just need to let them show us what their Government decided was the new way to deposit as well if they do.



518. Post 4022805 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: mellowyellow on December 18, 2013, 09:45:20 AM
Why are the polls on here are always so bullish, no 200 or 300? Not even 450?


>540 is pretty bearish cause it encompasses everything below it.



519. Post 4022904 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: gizmoh on December 18, 2013, 09:52:45 AM
Why are the polls on here are always so bullish, no 200 or 300? Not even 450?

because the poll is a few hours old.


Nope because Adam is an ubber bull in total denial..180 by Friday i say Grin

that or eurozone bail in and we go to 1k again



520. Post 4023090 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: seleme on December 18, 2013, 10:07:42 AM
guess Chinese people don't understand that disabled exchanges will mean price will sky rocket for bitcoin because there will be no easy way to buy them. And they will need them to move wealth out of the country.

Those Chinese people who sold because of fear already sold, it's 3 days old news, those who are selling now are those who are trying to cause more panic worldwide and get cheap coins.

I was just debating this with myself oddly as it sounds. But it was more like if the bears have been bearish from the way up from 500+ how can they still have coins to sell now lol..  so I guess either a combo of weak hands plus people with large enough holdings and avg costs buy in per/BTC that are in the single digits trying to drag it down to increase holdings. Alot of this doesn't seem to be the motivation to get more fiat.



521. Post 4023119 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 18, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
guess Chinese people don't understand that disabled exchanges will mean price will sky rocket for bitcoin because there will be no easy way to buy them. And they will need them to move wealth out of the country.

Those Chinese people who sold because of fear already sold, it's 3 days old news, those who are selling now are those who are trying to cause more panic worldwide and get cheap coins.

I was just debating this with myself oddly as it sounds. But it was more like if the bears have been bearish from the way up from 500+ how can they still have coins to sell now lol..  so I guess either a combo of weak hands plus people with large enough holdings and avg costs buy in per/BTC that are in the single digits trying to drag it down to increase holdings. Alot of this doesn't seem to be the motivation to get more fiat.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000229171&__source=yahoo|headline|other|video|&par=yahoo BOBBY ON THE PHONE? OH MY LORD



522. Post 4023178 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Did you listen to Bobby on the phone? I am for sure imagining those 3rd parties just self censoring and then China will be like ok use the central bank only Cheesy



523. Post 4023224 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):

Quote from: magicmexican on December 18, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Well Chinese exchanges can only sell now, what if the sell all the way to 0, will other exchanges follow?

uh they can buy as well.. but the can't deposit new money.. SO perhaps everyone is going full fiat for some reason like China closing the exchanges without China actually evening mentioning that



524. Post 4028240 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: humanitee on December 18, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Anyone think we will break 600 and stay?

I do.  Alot of indicators are starting to point at buy.  Will we dip down?  Sure.  But I believe we're in recovery mode now. 

Were slowing oscillating up,  I think were in the clear until China wakes up.  

China doesn't matter any more. They will decouple from the market.

fuck china str8 up. Amazed to see them above 3k, went to bed thinking we were at our lows 442 got tested it seems



525. Post 4028651 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 18, 2013, 05:37:27 PM
700 in 5 hours.

we can get back to work now

I'd prefer the moon Adam but I'll take anything above 600 as well.

Amazed that China is trending upwards.. NOT.. oh man I wonder how many government officials bought in hard Cheesy



526. Post 4028703 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: Dargumin on December 18, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
I'm calling the top at $1266.

Just checked through my ramblings to find this. I should have listened to me lol.

good work not following your own advice.



527. Post 4028837 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 18, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
ref: rpietila / others who 'knew'

Did they just have 'better' information than us in terms of an early 'nod' on the news?

Maybe this has been raised in the last few pages - I confess I haven't got time to look back - but is it not possible someone knew someone, who knew what was about to happen?

To accurately say 'it will go down to 500' is pretty good.

Was it a timed assault of a wave of selling and the timing was lucky - or was it timed FOR the news once it was obvious it was coming (if you had the right information).

Questions, questions.....

Go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322058.0
Read it.  And then, when you have time, read it again.
This is a good-quality spinoff from that thread as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366214.0
Multiple people here were saying $400-$500.

We were all warned and probably most of us very conscious that it just could not stay that high.

It's not necessarily the fact that they got better info, but rather the fact that people more used to doing market analysis and such calls are much more confident in their own assesment of the situation. This allows to execute for longer plans.

I sold when rpietila said, but then I bought back 100 usd below, and then I did that like 4 more times during swings. Had I been more confident, I would've stayed out from the very first time I sold and made at least 2x what I made.

this is all fud driven. As the Chinese government hasn't confirmed shit. China loves to self censor and the world freaked out.



528. Post 4028974 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 18, 2013, 05:57:56 PM
ref: rpietila / others who 'knew'

Did they just have 'better' information than us in terms of an early 'nod' on the news?

Maybe this has been raised in the last few pages - I confess I haven't got time to look back - but is it not possible someone knew someone, who knew what was about to happen?

To accurately say 'it will go down to 500' is pretty good.

Was it a timed assault of a wave of selling and the timing was lucky - or was it timed FOR the news once it was obvious it was coming (if you had the right information).

Questions, questions.....

Go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322058.0
Read it.  And then, when you have time, read it again.
This is a good-quality spinoff from that thread as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366214.0
Multiple people here were saying $400-$500.

We were all warned and probably most of us very conscious that it just could not stay that high.

It's not necessarily the fact that they got better info, but rather the fact that people more used to doing market analysis and such calls are much more confident in their own assesment of the situation. This allows to execute for longer plans.

I sold when rpietila said, but then I bought back 100 usd below, and then I did that like 4 more times during swings. Had I been more confident, I would've stayed out from the very first time I sold and made at least 2x what I made.

this is all fud driven. As the Chinese government hasn't confirmed shit. China loves to self censor and the world freaked out.

I am quite leaning against the opposite.

Fud driven would imply mayhem and all around uncertainty.

Every day that passes I'm more convinced this was all carefully orchestrated from the get go at 150..

The amount of exchanges available now (as opposed to previous bubbles) made it possible for a much more timely and organized pump & dump.

The China card allowed for a proper and very credible source of misinformation.

that's way to tinfoil hat for me. Were still 3.5x or so above 150 on BTCChina if it was that elaborate they would've driven in right in to the floor of years past.



529. Post 4028997 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: gandhibt on December 18, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
smells like bounce, lets see
spoke a little too soon and spooked em



530. Post 4029270 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: Mirsad on December 18, 2013, 06:25:05 PM
Bounce is not over.. we will reach 550-600 Euros top! Next drop will be under 300 Euros!
A lot of biggies bought back below 400 Euros -> massive profit above 500 Euros -> Sell -> panic -> profit again

I think we see all the late joiners and people who couldn't get money to exchanges in time buying and creating the next uptrend. In waves may be days apart waiting for volatility to die out



531. Post 4029352 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: jojo69 on December 18, 2013, 06:31:01 PM
lol

like 50 pages in this thread since I went to bed


soooo...does this count as blood in the streets?

the blood has been flowing



532. Post 4029767 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

Quote from: molecular on December 18, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
bear attack

China is in no man zone, 200-300 coins can move it up and down 10-15%,

That market is dead in the water because the lifeline was cut.

think its alive and fine.. deciding whether or not the de coupling from China should be 100 or 200 dollars differential



533. Post 4030140 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

I feel with total uncertainty the market will continue to react to news . Give me some good god damn news stat Dr.



534. Post 4037319 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):

any movement = rocket fuel for me Cheesy



535. Post 4047144 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: mbets on December 19, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
It's waiting at 700 not sure which way to go Cheesy

I read that look up and saw in passing hopefully it continues to climb



536. Post 4047568 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 19, 2013, 08:31:03 PM
Maybe we could encourage loaded and goat and a few other big kids to build a train theme park, with catered lunches-- then we could just ride around while eating hoagies. Ahhh... I believe I digress...

First thing we shall build on the BTC Island country



537. Post 4047641 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 17, 2013, 08:23:39 PM
4hr MACD loooking good don't lie to me MACd! They have yet to not tell the truth when a trend like this start and ends Cheesy here we come 1600

Is it just "looking good" or is it CROSSED? Because the former is a trap.

It hasn't crossed that would require a decent amount of buying still, I'd expect we'll know about his by 7pm est


so I was off by like day or 2 lol but it crossed



538. Post 4047847 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on December 19, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
4hr MACD loooking good don't lie to me MACd! They have yet to not tell the truth when a trend like this start and ends Cheesy here we come 1600

Is it just "looking good" or is it CROSSED? Because the former is a trap.

It hasn't crossed that would require a decent amount of buying still, I'd expect we'll know about his by 7pm est


so I was off by like day or 2 lol but it crossed

so 1600 now?

I think we won't test any ath till some stability from China's stance on btc is made clear



539. Post 4047929 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: bassclef on December 19, 2013, 08:58:44 PM
second half of 2014 though, hopefully a lot more important things would have happened by then

True, but it's a glimpse of things to come.

Well that why many have just hodled their coins.



540. Post 4048315 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: windjc on December 19, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
I remember new egg was supposed to accept bit coin. How did that affect the price?

Egg and Overstock are not in the same league. Overstock is a notch below Amazon.

Overstock will provide legitimacy to Bitcoin and I would expect other retailers to follow their lead swiftly. It would also put added pressure on Amazon to do so too.

yeah.. the pretty much push envelope for competition to catch the fuck up on having a payment system in place to accept bitcoin.



541. Post 4051998 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on December 20, 2013, 03:08:56 AM
Just wait till the next wave of negative china news.  BT China closes would be best. Then it bottoms out with super high volume on USD exchanges like in April and the real floor is found.

One can dream, I suppose.

dreams are nice.



542. Post 4052892 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 20, 2013, 03:15:40 AM
The only news coming out of China is that BTC crossed over 4000 again

in what universe?



we can prove existence of multiple universes if we can just get 20-80 more cny



543. Post 4052945 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 20, 2013, 05:02:21 AM
The only news coming out of China is that BTC crossed over 4000 again

in what universe?



we can prove existence of multiple universes if we can just get 20-80 more cny

 1 bloody cny jebus
 1.01 <



544. Post 4053070 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 20, 2013, 05:08:02 AM
The only news coming out of China is that BTC crossed over 4000 again

in what universe?



we can prove existence of multiple universes if we can just get 20-80 more cny

 1 bloody cny jebus
 1.01 <
-23 cny



545. Post 4061753 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

stability boosters engaged.



546. Post 4065548 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 20, 2013, 11:27:35 PM
WoWowoWo

Just got back home to find a 4k wall  Shocked

What's going on?
Haven't read the last 6 or 7 pages yet..

EDIT: I sodl, we goin' down!

nothing new here.



547. Post 4065710 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: magicmexican on December 20, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
So much panic selling... Are these ppl know something that i dont or just dont know anything at all?




548. Post 4065811 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: granathus on December 20, 2013, 11:58:12 PM
Probability is high that there was more to that wallguy action than first interpreted by bitcointalk expertise. Anyways, I used the opportunity to buy back in. Hated sitting in fiat, my belief in Bitcoin is rock solid. Have a feeling it will go lower before this is over, but now I can breathe easy.

Hodling since december 21!  Cheesy

Hodl strong as well. I mean I wasn't planning on looking at prices till my 1k usd/BTC date of June 8th 2014



549. Post 4065863 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: Roccker on December 20, 2013, 11:58:29 PM
Worst trader stories:
I was the guy that sold at the absolute bottom for 490 some hours ago.
Today i was the guy that sold at the bottom at 610.
I am just laughing now.
I feel someone is just waiting for me to sell and then everyone buys again.

But i was happy buying at 580 from this wall-guy!
I feel great now (for now:))


avoid selling during big long red candles.. buy at near the bottoms and sell on the recoveries with growing green candles.



550. Post 4065938 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on December 21, 2013, 12:09:36 AM
China doesn't care for latest ups and downs? Nice to see that Smiley

I personally give zero fucks about China, do they care about what I think? no.

In reality China means nothing to me until they stop dropping FUD bombs that rock our markets



551. Post 4066025 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on December 21, 2013, 12:17:07 AM
China doesn't care for latest ups and downs? Nice to see that Smiley

I personally give zero fucks about China, do they care about what I think? no.

In reality China means nothing to me until they stop dropping FUD bombs that rock our markets

Yeah... we sow what happend this week. On a long term I don't care either, but on a short term... I care. I wanted to cash few % of my coins at 1400$ and now I need to wait more than I thought Grin

10k is my first sell point Cheesy lets go. But I got lots of time on my side I think lol



552. Post 4066100 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on December 21, 2013, 12:28:56 AM
China doesn't care for latest ups and downs? Nice to see that Smiley

I personally give zero fucks about China, do they care about what I think? no.

In reality China means nothing to me until they stop dropping FUD bombs that rock our markets

Yeah... we sow what happend this week. On a long term I don't care either, but on a short term... I care. I wanted to cash few % of my coins at 1400$ and now I need to wait more than I thought Grin

10k is my first sell point Cheesy lets go. But I got lots of time on my side I think lol

At 10k... you won't need to cash out, you will be able to buy anything with btc then  Wink

doubt it but we'd be getting there, 200 billion market cap ( google ) = 16,000 usd/BTC (google market cap/12.5 million coins just chose a number close to what we have) even then were not at adoption Cheesy



553. Post 4066432 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Quote from: tHash on December 21, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
China doesn't care for latest ups and downs? Nice to see that Smiley

I personally give zero fucks about China, do they care about what I think? no.

In reality China means nothing to me until they stop dropping FUD bombs that rock our markets

Yeah... we sow what happend this week. On a long term I don't care either, but on a short term... I care. I wanted to cash few % of my coins at 1400$ and now I need to wait more than I thought Grin

10k is my first sell point Cheesy lets go. But I got lots of time on my side I think lol

You and everyone else . . .  Actually, everyone will probably try to sell early before everyone else does.   It will take quite a bit of push to get to $10k.   Kind of like the latent heat of vaporization, it takes so many dollars to raise to $9,999, then 5 times that much just to get over the $10k hump.

yeah I probably will end up selling it somewhere near 7.5k but either way... I won't be waiting for a round number when the time comes. But as well I am in no real rush.



554. Post 4070424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):

Well bitcoin has just become a sexy lil tease



555. Post 4077157 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: damiano on December 21, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
The slide will continue and I expect a Christmas rally which leads into a bear trap


If we make it through the weekend, I doubt we slide to much lower then 550 with out a manipulator or manipulative news.



556. Post 4080827 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: TERA on December 22, 2013, 12:37:51 AM
Would it be bad taste to give someone bitcoin as an xmas gift while it's crashing?

not if they understand the possible future value.



557. Post 4081077 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: TERA on December 22, 2013, 12:50:59 AM
Would it be bad taste to give someone bitcoin as an xmas gift while it's crashing?

not if they understand the possible future value.
These would be people not already familiar with bitcoin.
hmm well at the least you're helping them learn and also enter and emerging revolutionary market where In my opinion they will be more likely to see a larger rise in value in the next year. Before next Christmas they'll be like this was the best gift ever lol.. as it could in theory keeping giving as in appreciates.



558. Post 4087413 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: magicmexican on December 22, 2013, 11:44:34 AM
Had to put so much people on ignore this week Sad

what was it? too much hodling? or buy buy buy. or sell sell sell



559. Post 4096056 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: freethink2013 on December 22, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted, but here is BTC China statment from Bobby: https://vip.btcchina.com/page/notice20131220

Reading between the lines speaks volumes here...

Ya help me out with reading between the lines.

china is fucked. there's still prostitutes available for qq coin though. the Chinese black market is bigger that several European economies though. Still fucked though.

sure they are. I don't get the big problem with regulating an emerging market .. in a communist country.. in fact I expected this sooner lol



560. Post 4096300 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

http://paymentmagnates.com/view_news/major-retailers-to-accept-bitcoin-in-2014-/568

bull fud? or choo choo

edit possible china fud

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tgntd/chinese_exchange_huobi_still_accepting_rmb/



561. Post 4098825 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: windjc on December 23, 2013, 03:59:33 AM
Fontas has somewhere between 1k and 10k btc.

So TERA, are you still bearish? Ok, I know the answer to that - my question is, at what break would you call the trend reversed?

boo trendlines



562. Post 4101583 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Quote from: byronbb on December 23, 2013, 09:33:38 AM
Ohhhhhhhh can't sleep. Discovered CNY exchange huobi.com did 61k volume last 24 hours. Very volume.

http://btckan.com/price#type_exchange_cny
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tinga/why_huobi_has_higher_volume_than_btcchina_and/

think I linked related 12 hrs ago



563. Post 4102192 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):

Well the gap between gox and china and china and stamp have really shrunk



564. Post 4129902 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Merry Xmas Happy Holidays. HODL'ing for xmas



565. Post 4132585 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

are you all really in bed waiting for Santa to deliver BTC BUY BUY BUY BUY before he sends us to the moon



566. Post 4133549 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: TERA on December 25, 2013, 07:52:02 AM
Is there news from china? those guys are buying like crazy

It's simply where all the Chinese volume is now but it could be fake also.

heard something fud'ish early or read it on reddit regarding btcchina getting a new funding voucher system or what not



567. Post 4146114 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 03:11:47 AM
i don't think we will break 720 at stamp

Do you think christmas buyers will sober up so soon?

volume is already going down and 720 is major resistant, last big top and market is way overbought

You mentioned beofre about the RSI showing overbought earlier...yet all of the charts I have seen for RSI and Stochi show under the 70 or 80 line respectively ie not over-bought....I'm using Wisdom and looking at Gox btw.

there's no rsi in wisdom stochRSI is not the same

stochRSI was also overbought both in 1m and 4h when you posted that.

I'm seeing that on Wisdom. I'm not sure what you're watching nano.

gandhi trades in stamp from what I know, maybe that's the confusion?

Well I'll take any recovery, plus I see were above 4k cny on huboi.



568. Post 4146259 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 26, 2013, 03:42:08 AM
HO HO HO MERRY CHRISTMAS

AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
Is that a choo choo to the moon train?
to the north poll!

Adam, you are always reading my mind. Choo Choo

Tera, yeah I remain skeptical of China's plans. However I subscribe to the idea that they never came out and said anything to the public therefore nothing is remotely concrete or discernible from their recent actions, perhaps its a p,b and cc ( pump, break and choo choo ). I think it is more likely that they created instability so they could get more holdings among the Elite.

Either way we can only speculate.



569. Post 4147824 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: sir faps on December 26, 2013, 06:48:23 AM
Anyone planning on sleeping tonight?

Sleep is overrated anyway...

why am I so tired though.....bah all this turkeyyy



570. Post 4148193 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: Ashitank on December 26, 2013, 07:54:30 AM
Some body just lit the fire in Bulls A$$ lolz

no kidding.. 90 sold at 740.. next guy buys like 200 lol at 742



571. Post 4149255 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Is cocaine and Bugatti's enough to get us past 750 .. I sure hope so.



572. Post 4149443 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):

Quote from: granathus on December 26, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
Huobi says 750 begone!

there at 688.. think gox pressured them to raise back up after there last rally from huboi



573. Post 4160979 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: byronbb on December 26, 2013, 11:00:56 PM
China price has caught up with Stamp. Last time these two came together they diverged to the downside. My hope is BTCChina is back in the driver's seat and we see a huge rally from China to Choo Choo past the gox price.

get with the program it is huboi..driving this crazy train



574. Post 4163246 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

think when arb or whatever it is that is closing what was once a 100-200 dollar cushion between Chinese exchanges and the others will be the point at which we see the next decision making process for China



575. Post 4164299 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2013/12/libertarian-enclaves?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/bitcoinparadise

Goat they've beaten us to it.. or are you not sharing with us?



576. Post 4166022 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

and were re visiting 800 zone on gox



577. Post 4181646 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):

Quote from: Loaded on December 28, 2013, 07:17:41 AM
I may regret this in the morning, as it will cause some people to want to trade against me, but I feel that I need to put it out there. Bitcoin TA is heavily manipulated at the moment, by at least 2 parties. Be careful out there.

super cryptic but the TA has been screaming bear market.. so you claiming that's not the case?



578. Post 4200530 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

think we attack 800 mid week maybe 900 the week after. heavily dependent on news and how much fiat decides to flow.



579. Post 4209143 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 29, 2013, 11:35:41 AM
think we attack 800 mid week maybe 900 the week after. heavily dependent on news and how much fiat decides to flow.

oh by mid week I meant today lol...

oh well.. I guess it would be nicer to see stamp hit 800.. so I change this prediction to a stamp price to time frame guess lol



580. Post 4210128 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

I think right now were seeing the tops that a couple people probably called for themselves cause there has been a fair bit of selling followed with the reaches past 800...assuming triggers and orders are being met in order of first placed.

I can't see us dropping without bad news, and I hope by now people don't over react to news strictly put out to cause panic.



581. Post 4215968 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

..200 coins back to the 800 zone, seems like some wants out at this range



582. Post 4215980 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on December 30, 2013, 07:58:29 AM
aaand... back to your regularly scheduled stagnant market observation.

Let me know if there are any walls.

Huge Wall on Mtgox at price: 792...for 200. Might get interesting. Might not.
gone pretty much



583. Post 4216250 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.48h):

possible bull fud on reddit says the Chinese exchanges are dropping fees/



584. Post 4228871 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on December 31, 2013, 12:07:34 AM
If major retailers, such as Overstock.com, intend to immediately convert bitcoins to fiat, then is spending bitcoins equivalent to selling on an exchange? If so, there is little incentive to spend because it adversely impacts your investment, unless sufficient new fiat is flowing into the exchanges to offset your bitcoin purchases.

2014 could turn out to be a very bad year for bulls if too many large merchants decide to accept bitcoin.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Isn't what BitPay does with its BTC more important then what Overstock does with it? Or maybe we can start a whole new group of activists who support merchants who don't instantly covert their BTC to fiat at the POS.

Well, the point is that more merchants accepting bitcoin is typically viewed as bullish. I disagree if the merchants intend to immediately convert back to fiat.

exposure, and increasing the ease of purchasing goods with bitcoin is never bad. People might skip buying 5 dollars min fee prepaid credit cards and or ukash and just use bitcoin for online purchases.



585. Post 4229032 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on December 31, 2013, 12:14:20 AM
If major retailers, such as Overstock.com, intend to immediately convert bitcoins to fiat, then is spending bitcoins equivalent to selling on an exchange? If so, there is little incentive to spend because it adversely impacts your investment, unless sufficient new fiat is flowing into the exchanges to offset your bitcoin purchases.

2014 could turn out to be a very bad year for bulls if too many large merchants decide to accept bitcoin.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Isn't what BitPay does with its BTC more important then what Overstock does with it? Or maybe we can start a whole new group of activists who support merchants who don't instantly covert their BTC to fiat at the POS.

Well, the point is that more merchants accepting bitcoin is typically viewed as bullish. I disagree if the merchants intend to immediately convert back to fiat.

exposure, and increasing the ease of purchasing goods with bitcoin is never bad. People might skip buying 5 dollars min fee prepaid credit cards and or ukash and just use bitcoin for online purchases.

Yea, but my point is the price goes down if too many large merchants are immediately converting. Bitcoin can probably handle Overstock. But what if Amazon, BestBuy, Newegg and others all decide to accept bitcoin in 2014? That would require MASSIVE amounts of new fiat to continually flow into the exchanges to keep the price from plummeting. Possible, sure. Likely, no.

well.. in a world where we're doing that much volume it still first required people to A spend their own stash of coins, which they may instantly replenish or b new people buying into bitcoin to enjoy a savings offered in BTCpricing if it exists.



586. Post 4233003 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/new-bitcoin-ira-offered-by-broad-financial-1865581.htm

go go IRAs



587. Post 4236397 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on December 31, 2013, 11:22:58 AM
panic bought 710 coins and then panic sold 724 coins.

bitcoins give me too much stress at the moment. can't hodl them for too long. Sad

Go buy a Lambo if you're the legal age for driving one. That's likely more exciting than pouring your bored ego on a half dead bitcoin talk forum on NYE.

+1

buy two, one for fun and another to sell later Cheesy



588. Post 4251349 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 01, 2014, 09:22:59 AM
Happy New Year!

1-1-2015 predictions?

My guess is...... ummm..... 49272 USD @ midnight pacific

feel bullish this year eh, I'm feeling 3000.00 usd .. I peg'd breaking 1000.00 usd at june 8th 2014 so were already ahead of my first prediction.



589. Post 4251523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 01, 2014, 09:35:03 AM
Happy New Year!

1-1-2015 predictions?

My guess is...... ummm..... 49272 USD @ midnight pacific

feel bullish this year eh, I'm feeling 3000.00 usd .. I peg'd breaking 1000.00 usd at june 8th 2014 so were already ahead of my first prediction.

I'm just going with somewhat the same growth percentage as what we had this year. I know this has no "TA Value" but it seems possible!



The possible entry of various hedge funds with pub/priv etf funds could create the atmosphere in which we can see both of our statements become true lol



590. Post 4251890 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

first dump of 2014 Cheesy



591. Post 4251911 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: F-bernanke on January 01, 2014, 10:39:25 AM
first dump of 2014 Cheesy

 Grin would love to see it get ignored.

me too, seems to be taking a fair bit of coins.. to drop us under 800.. either that or someone under estimated the new years party bills.

or perhaps those tax purpose sell offs.



592. Post 4251987 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: TERA on January 01, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Maybe something to do with the API being down. Dump up to 3550 now jesus.

5k Cheesy



593. Post 4252069 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on January 01, 2014, 10:52:24 AM
I love the way we've been getting some dumps like this and no panic!  Smiley

I think it shows that every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Julie) left on board knows how to ride the train. It's exhilerating being part of it!

Each of these dumps over the past couple of weeks has led in to a necessary consolidation back to the steady uptrend. Look at the charts.

well impart to the fact many believe those who sell on gox.. are then left with goxbox and therefore more likely just selling in hopes of rebuying more coins at cheaper panic lows.

also when your $70-100 ahead of other markets I think it makes it likely to see such dumps



594. Post 4252316 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: TERA on January 01, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
It might have been a bunch of delayed bot sales from before the gox issue started, rather than a whale. We were floating up in the 810s/820s without any resistance for quite some time.

seems to be happening again.. are we out in space again.. no gravity mode is fun.



595. Post 4263598 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: TERA on January 02, 2014, 02:23:27 AM
Omg fresh fiat is coming forsure! last chance to buy under 1000!

see yall at $500

lol.  I know you say that as a joke, but there are many who hang out here that will be dismayed.

I can't see a great influx of $ hitting the markets.  Ya, there is sure to be some new money coming in.  There always is.  But what reason would a deep-pockets wall streeter have for pouring in $100k?

The markets we have now don't have the liquidity to handle trading like that.  Well, that's my feeling.  There may be the offsetting amounts that I don't have a clue about.  Time will tell.
I think you have the wrong impression of deep pockets. $100K investments come from your average forum user who has been around for a couple ralles. A deep pocket in wall street is probably looking to allocate $10-$100M...  

People don't seem to gather how many were once made rich by bitcoin, and how the rich are looking at it just because it could make them richer. Again nothing should be done quickly strictly because someone might invest fiat into btc



596. Post 4266615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

Quote from: TERA on January 02, 2014, 07:40:31 AM
50K was dumped in May. At the time, the order books were so deep that the dump only brought the price from $127 to $118 - only 9% slippage, and then the month long downtrend began. Now look at our current order books - even if you combine mtgox and bitstamp - the same dump would reduce the price to $450, a 45% drop... Think about that for a moment. Bid support my ass.

You guys have forgotten how even the title of this very thread was created.

50,000BTC * 127BTC/usd = 6,350,000usd

50,000BTC * 745BTC/usd = 37,250,000usd

think these totals are important,

17% of 50,000 roughly 8500 coins now a days makes 6,350,000 ( rounded numbers) cause I am lazyyyyy. So perhaps we just need to give more relevance to the price in relation to volume

edit: we saw 3400-4500 coins sold on gox yesterday perhaps they just wanted 6 milli



597. Post 4269026 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):

always nice to see stamp move first.



598. Post 4277471 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on December 29, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
think we attack 800 mid week maybe 900 the week after. heavily dependent on news and how much fiat decides to flow.

oh by mid week I meant today lol...

oh well.. I guess it would be nicer to see stamp hit 800.. so I change this prediction to a stamp price to time frame guess lol

I like to self circle jerk,


But I like when my guesstimates are close to reality. However I remain interested in whether or not Tera's 900 top and 600 bottom will play play out. I don't see why people would sell off though, without some sort of detracting news.



599. Post 4277546 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

not really that trend has been applied since the Chinese crash...



600. Post 4282533 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

lets go 4700 cny,



601. Post 4282811 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

BTC869 sold eh, who knows.



602. Post 4283533 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

the thread is quiet like the markets, what will this Friday bring, I'll be getting my second filling always fun to tell the hygienists about bitcoin lol



603. Post 4284176 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 03, 2014, 06:06:55 AM
Ya.  The weekend should be fun.

Good luck with your tooth.

Ty If it goes as smoothly as last week I'll be happy. I'll be more happy if Stamp gets over the 800 mark though.



604. Post 4284405 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: mooncake on January 03, 2014, 07:19:35 AM
After the Chinese authority issued the warning on BTC, trading volume in BTC China has reduced drastically.

It seems that now the market becomes active only when US wakes up?

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list

huobi has 51% marketshare



605. Post 4284514 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

someone is buying.. the steady 20 btc buys and the odd 160 every now and then will have us over 870 pretty soon.



606. Post 4286117 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Huboi is heating up .. 4800 is not to far off.



607. Post 4293632 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

TheCoinBull lasted .. honestly 2 minutes before I had to re ignore him.. lol


In other news, 900 by monday or 900 by next friday?



608. Post 4299244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: thefunkybits on January 04, 2014, 03:20:44 AM
400 BTC buy wall on stamp not even causing a single panic buy
ha!

also Voodah you suddenly turned bearish?

edit: FTC is garbage adam! lol only coins with innovation will succeed IMO

triggered a lil gox dump



609. Post 4299437 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on January 04, 2014, 03:31:03 AM
Touched 861 on gox. SELL SELL SELL!!!

relax were not even close to the selling pressure of the good ol' December Friday's



610. Post 4303199 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

I just love seeing the 20 or so btc buys roll buy like clockwork... I can't decide if its a couple bigger stacks averaging in, or just people who have been waiting to buy getting in to the game.



611. Post 4303405 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: dani on January 04, 2014, 10:28:09 AM
I just love seeing the 20 or so btc buys roll buy like clockwork... I can't decide if its a couple bigger stacks averaging in, or just people who have been waiting to buy getting in to the game.

If you're a whale, or kinda, wouldnt it make sense to dump your fiat slowly and steady? You would get "cheap" coins and pushing the market upwards. Of course, panic buying btc would be cheaper in the long term, but this won't push the price, it would make bitcoin look volatile like a bitch - even more (okay okay, it looked good the past weeks). Just wondering

As I believe I've understood from it being discussed.. essentially if whale A puts up xxxx coins at 800 and whale B with fiat can snatch em up and life goes on relatively undisturbed

I suppose we see the price move quickest when the walls are up for manipulation and get pulled before being completely eaten or as the price moves down towards them, also they can induce panic sells due to the volume.

Edit assuming the buys stay constant at 5-15 time range I took 10 minutes as a mean, and it ranges from 15-20 coins so 17.5 coins a buy, means 2520 coins are being bought over a 24 hr period. I'd love to believe that's a hedge fund buying up a stash lol



612. Post 4304685 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: pietje on January 04, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
oh srry, well to get back to topic.

Why hasnt there been a rally after this? Because of the wall at stamp? There was a small rally 6 hours ago (inside information?) Usually things move up or down with the news right?

there usually is a lag with news, especially good news, but this could be a nice hook into a market, after apps we need to get it accepted by Steam, HoN, LoL, Path of Exile, blizzard store w/e just let the bitcoin flow



613. Post 4311347 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on January 03, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
TheCoinBull lasted .. honestly 2 minutes before I had to re ignore him.. lol


In other news, 900 by monday or 900 by next friday?

Dammit I was off by 24 hrs again, or 24 hrs and a week lol



614. Post 4315950 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Was at funeral, but wow that was the quickest dealing of Twitter FUD yet, I didn't even skip to the end of the thread to find out if it was fake.

Stamp to 900 by Monday I hope, I can only agree with bears in the sense that I find it unhealthy for the spread among the exchanges to remain so distant.

I also feel stamp lets gox test the waters, and this leads to stamp crawling up to about 50-75 dollars behind gox.



615. Post 4316669 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: kromer on January 05, 2014, 12:20:14 AM
Super bullish but I can't get my money to Bitstamp until Wednesday Angry

Same happened to me and the price shot up before it went through. In retrospect I wish I'd swallowed a modest localbitcoins premium. Might be worth thinking about if you think the price will continue up.

Thanks, I will look into it.

I agree, swallowed it at 142.50 a coin back in october.. thank god cause it was in the 300s by the time I was verified and had money in CaVirtEx



616. Post 4316809 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Erdogan on January 05, 2014, 12:29:51 AM
We have a situation now with one or more powerful buyers repeatedly hammering the MtGox asks. People see the solidly rising trend and panic buys from time to time, but we hardly correct, it is sideways for a few hours then upwards again like a marathon runner.

tl;dr extremely bullish situation. New ATH in 24h?


I agree whole hardly if we break 1000 without a sweat, but I am semi certain we see people sell shy of it at 975-999 thinking they'll be smarter then the next person.



617. Post 4316951 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: shmadz on January 05, 2014, 12:44:10 AM
i like this chart!   thanks

If nothing changes we should have a new ATH on 22.01.14.

https://www.tradingview.com/e/eBL7nAJN/

BTW. This chart is not made by me.

Are you serious? Just deforming a chart to be able to draw a straight line does not mean that this line is useful in any sense.

it is very useful for me! brb going to go troll some other websites!


"Holy fuck that chart makes sense actually, might be the reason china is racing to 5k today"

and you doubted that chart and my ability to troll with it!   http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/39316850    Grin

lulz, that is epic. I'd love to reply with the "sad bear that missed the train" pic there but I don't know how to 4chan...

upload meme and comment.. enter captcha.. bingo bango



618. Post 4317077 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on January 05, 2014, 12:51:59 AM


oh Turkey has nothing on Thailand!  like 10,000% or higher... its nuts!

i always assumed people that can afford them, found ways to navigate those ridiculous taxes- at least to some extent. by like bribing the right people...

true or false?

yes, until the political party changes, or the new police guy comes in and needs to pay for his job.

lots of people get them and then lose them after a few years even with bribes.

I agree, honestly blue sapphires with small diamonds to accent it is what i find to be the best. but she wanted a big ass ugly diamond accented by smaller but still large and ugly diamonds.

Heh, when BTC gets to 40k, I might cave just once. My wife understands the diamond thing but some of her friends have large-ish rocks and peer pressure and all...




yeah, that is what happened here. i told her no more, lol.   even if i get 10 more crazy cars no more silly diamonds.

just buy em at auctions... for something closer to the real (pretty looking) price



619. Post 4317153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on January 05, 2014, 12:58:45 AM


just buy em at auctions... for something closer to the real (pretty looking) price

tell me more about these auctions.  Huh

I am talking a bit out of my ass but, I've watched some random reality based auction shows on tv. However I am almost certain you can buy them for much less than their appraised value.. which I am sure is less than what most resellers or jewelry stores sell em for.

I assume you just need to find some old rich no family estate sales lol



620. Post 4317913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

912, ooh dear



621. Post 4317966 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 05, 2014, 02:09:55 AM
its always nice to come back home and see a green candle

 

you mean so many green candles.. sadly until the three day chart its red atm and then green again at the 5m chart lol



622. Post 4318099 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 05, 2014, 02:21:01 AM
wow it's suuuuper bullish in here. Must be time to seel alll teh cions

you first  Tongue

shall we set our stop loss on cavirtex, mtgox, stamp etc to that of the Chinese current usd/cad equivs lol



623. Post 4318198 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 05, 2014, 02:31:06 AM
It's not over yet. On Mtgox Resistance Wall at 921.3.....  Undecided

Bought.

Bitcoin Bozo bounces back.

all on a Saturday night who said nerds don't have fun.



624. Post 4319066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Voodah on January 05, 2014, 03:43:33 AM
Yes, super exponential would most probably lead to infrastructure collapse.

the question is at what point though, and being a proactive community.. means we most likely as a community can solve said issues before we encounter the bigger problems, especially with the amounts of angel invesment and start ups trying to provide BTCrelated solutions.



625. Post 4319358 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.50h):

Quote from: Voodah on January 05, 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Now I'm not rushing to any conclusions.... but permabulls will hate this one...

Do you guys see a pattern? Can you find that perfect slope somewhere else?



so this is all just a part of a big gox loop .. and were going to rubber band back to early dec then re crash?



626. Post 4320431 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

another 300 coin sold



627. Post 4320658 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย on January 05, 2014, 06:25:47 AM
another 300 coin sold

Someone forgot to hodl

not me.. my answer to stamp going past 900 or w/e was hodl lol .. only answer that is universal



628. Post 4323039 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on January 05, 2014, 10:51:40 AM
This is the weekend crash. 

Awful isn't it? + $30... shameful!  Cheesy

after a what 40-80 dollar rally lol



629. Post 4323893 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: StarenseN on January 05, 2014, 11:34:40 AM
This is the weekend crash.  

Hm no, sunday means asian monday. so North Smiley

going for 5100 Cheesy



630. Post 4324224 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: pietje on January 05, 2014, 12:29:41 PM
Looks like a breakout attempt. If the ~360 BTC wall @845 on bitstamp gets eaten, we'll break out.


Lol did you edit that from 500BTC? What is a good site to see the walls these days?

Alot of resistence at stamp though, 1000 bts till 850
I just use the stamp orderbook, but theres probably a better site for it Tongue

think a bite of 150 - 300BTC will get it pulled quickly.



631. Post 4324401 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on January 05, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
Looks like a breakout attempt. If the ~360 BTC wall @845 on bitstamp gets eaten, we'll break out.


Lol did you edit that from 500BTC? What is a good site to see the walls these days?

Alot of resistence at stamp though, 1000 bts till 850
I just use the stamp orderbook, but theres probably a better site for it Tongue

think a bite of 150 - 300BTC will get it pulled quickly.

theres the bite.. will it be pulled or gobbled



632. Post 4334445 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Dalmar on January 05, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
This rally will probably eventually touch the ATH - possibly even break it - and then after a double top we'll retest the 500s again (huobi scandals or a harsher china banhammer).

so you hope

sorry we only went up 200 dollars in price over the weekend lol



633. Post 4334680 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Dalmar on January 05, 2014, 11:22:55 PM
so you hope

sorry we only went up 200 dollars in price over the weekend lol

So? rallies in a bear market is not something out of the ordinary. A lot of fools will be trapped in the ATH range.

bear market shmear market... it's only bear cause people spread such fear that China was all out of BTC...while Huobi NEVER STOPPED ACCEPTING CNY DEPOSITS (to my knowledge) stole all the chinese market share for a short period and so the train resumed...

All in all we were at 455 a month ago...I guess I should consider that a month long rally then I guess



634. Post 4334745 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: aminorex on January 05, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
Over 1k again!

Please stop posting this.

Take it as nothing had happend ;-)

wake me up when it recrosses exp(0)=1 t.oz. Au.

what is the price of gold again Grin



635. Post 4334902 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Richard Branson on January 05, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
Huobi has over 60% "volume"... it will vanish on jan 31!
This is the last runup before the final capitulation. We'll probably see another ATH before that. Just don't forget to take profits above 1200$.

And yes, I'm long term bullish. But china needs to get out of the game. They fake anything. Watches, clothes, cars, ... even business reports.

cool story, you know what the Chinese plan to do before they know. Carry on folks, just some crystal ballin'



636. Post 4334985 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 05, 2014, 11:44:17 PM
really bullish action the past few days... how long can it last? how high can it go! soooo exciting  Cheesy


I got to get on to making a graph of the bitcoin price vs hours of regular sleep lol D:



637. Post 4335120 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 05, 2014, 11:59:44 PM
This is a little off-topic but I just noticed that all the trolls' ignore buttons have stopped glowing, even Walso and Mucus. I didn't check Revans.

Is this some kind of New Year's amnesty?

I don't ignore anyone because I find trolls hilarious so I don't know if the ignore function stopped working or if it's just that the buttons stopped glowing.

Strange.

Forum became self aware, and learned we are all trolls.


Side Note: How can we as a group verify the amout the volume reported by exchanges, fud on reddit says huobi is run out of the owners personal bank account and these volumes are bot induced ping pong'n



638. Post 4337836 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: aminorex on January 06, 2014, 03:55:34 AM
There are about 25,000 coins left on all the exchanges put together.  Just guesstimating -- didn't actually count them.

For about 40 million you could get a corner on bitcoin.

people with 40 million to dump into btc, are definitely buying off the exchange imo



639. Post 4337962 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: spooderman on January 06, 2014, 04:08:18 AM
so taiwan just banned btc atms. SEEL OLL TEH CIONS

will you sell me your coins for 1001



640. Post 4339153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Ashitank on January 06, 2014, 06:19:11 AM
lol 400 btc wall @ stamp between 947~948 got eaten-up   Shocked

..many people are afraid of the Chinese coming down on people

and people are buying it up to 955 now lol



641. Post 4339318 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 06, 2014, 06:22:13 AM
There are about 25,000 coins left on all the exchanges put together.  Just guesstimating -- didn't actually count them.

For about 40 million you could get a corner on bitcoin.

That's about 9 days of mining output.

If this is correct this makes the current market price meaningless. BTC is ridiculously thinly traded.  

Further you cannot extract a market cap out to 12 million coins based on trades of 25,000 coins.  People saying BTC has a market cap of $12 billion fail to appreciate what would happen if one whale stirred.

People will probably flame me for saying this but whatever.  I am contributing by buying and hodling.

Its still a new market, it will have these growing pains but I see the world waking up quickly on this, which will impart bring instability during price swings but , none the less this is exciting innovation we're seeing and experiencing



642. Post 4339414 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: aminorex on January 06, 2014, 06:47:07 AM
Its still a new market, it will have these growing pains but I see the world waking up quickly on this, which will impart bring instability during price swings but , none the less this is exciting innovation we're seeing and experiencing

The instability is due to the price being too low.  That's unsustainable.  When the price is high enough, liquidity will be balanced.

I agree, can I assume that the coins end up better dispersed during rallies as they aren't massively dumped into bigger hands with large crash orders preset?



643. Post 4339462 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: [Default Trust] is Tyrannically Centralized! (goat) on January 06, 2014, 06:57:58 AM
3852 pages of people telling you how to lose all your bitcoin by trading.

Well done, you got me!


To be fair, many of us did tell you all to HODL!


Honestly just hold everything you can, who needs to gamble? 5,000% yearly returns should be good enough.

working for me still , bought all the way from 140 -> 900 Cheesy  now I just hodl Cheesy till I could sell 1% of the stash to cover the entire investment lols Cheesy



644. Post 4339661 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

experiencing a little resistance, do they not know resisting the choo choo is futile.



645. Post 4339958 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 06, 2014, 07:42:29 AM
As much as guys like loaded think they move the markets, all they can hope for is a temporary price movement.  These so-called whales are merely plankton in this ecosystem.

Yeah, the last dump he warned us of did not happen.

And I shorted my coins margin trading due to his words, now I own 0 BTC.

Lol.

Shit ain't funny bro...

most people just say don't short bitcoin



646. Post 4341013 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Nemo1024 on January 06, 2014, 09:22:49 AM
One of Risto's best advice when new money come into exchange here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345065.0 is
Quote
It is important to buy in as soon as possible
I burnt by not buying at 750 on Friday, even though I got fresh funds cleared on Stamp by then. I was influenced by my prior bad trade, hoping for a week-end dip.
Note to self: always keep fresh money decisions for holding emotionally separated from trading decisions.

I've learned to stagger the buys up and down from a price point.. so you never get left in the full fiat for what you hoped to spend atleast.



647. Post 4341328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Ducky1 on January 06, 2014, 09:37:45 AM
Wow. Is this place ever dead.

Price surging upward and not a single CCMF?

I was expecting to see more missed trains pics myself

Its going to fast even for the bulls Smiley

we got t shirts on order btw lol.. really goat and nano



648. Post 4341652 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

run up starting on stamp i think let break the 1k barrier there before cavirtex



649. Post 4342310 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: mellowyellow on January 06, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
no new wires at gox today, it's a holiday in japan

So the Stamp/ btc-e  holiday deposits will arrive today, starting in a couple of hours.

Gox won't have any new ones today because it's a holiday, what about tomorrow?

stamp, btc-e and huobi will probably stay closer to eachother like they are doing




650. Post 4342465 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

btc-e seem more bearish then the Chinese lol



651. Post 4342809 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: ardana123 on January 06, 2014, 11:46:57 AM
So why is no one working that 100$ gap between gox and stamp?

asking questions to things you should already know.

same things that generally stop it, goxbux.



652. Post 4343089 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

what the deuce stamp



653. Post 4343166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Ashitank on January 06, 2014, 12:15:16 PM
what the deuce stamp

I expect stamp & BTC-e to go down to 920 ~ 899 level before start going back-up.

they going to run out of bear coins?



654. Post 4343573 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

well selling has become the theme of this eastern morning



655. Post 4343683 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Ashitank on January 06, 2014, 12:15:16 PM
what the deuce stamp

I expect stamp & BTC-e to go down to 920 ~ 899 level before start going back-up.

seems accurate Cheesy



656. Post 4344331 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Quote from: Nemo1024 on January 06, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
I know that this might draw a number of derisive replies, but has anyone considered that we might actually be in the final and most pronounced dead cat bounce?

nothing is impossible


I can imagine alot of people with no balls, who were shitting bricks of fear when they bought at 1000-1100 range might have just exited or lowered there holdings. Where the bulls at Cheesy



657. Post 4344582 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.51h):

Its easy to believe a lot of people were both a) making a lot of money on doubling their cash quickly, and b) weak hands who just want off of this roller coaster ride.




658. Post 4354877 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: dgarcia on January 06, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
much dollars
very luxury
such support
 

Each support can be broken.

Though I can't see any reason for dropping more and maybe entering bear market again.

Hodl?

Ore buy more Doge Coin?  Grin

If gox has a holiday today and money isn't being deposit or processed I wouldn't say this means no buying but those with fiat want to hold on to it just in case of manipulation following these rallies. The other exchanges have been generally less trail blazing than gox and perhaps the goxbux induces quicker buying breakouts.

I don't think permabulls think raising as fast as we did over the weekend is safe, I hope not at least. However I consider the pull back to be realistic. I'll repeat myself a) because new joiners from 380-500 are marking crazy bank and if fearful of the future can cover investment and let free money ride the coaster to a new ATH and b) new joiners in 1000-1243 late nov boom with no more stomach can exit at less of a loss and or possibly break even. Investing is not for the weak and whimsical  



659. Post 4355067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

btc-e matching China exchange cny - > usd  stamp lagging behind lets go trigger a buying breakout of each others lag

now China is almost at 940, lead us China to the promise lands.



660. Post 4359802 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

lil dumping here and there on gox .. btce still above stamp eh



661. Post 4359884 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 07, 2014, 06:06:54 AM
I think the massive dump triggered a shutoff switch....  Shocked

usually a much bigger trade has to be executed, I saw less then 1k get sold ..hmmm

1029.99 as the newest updated price on bitwisdom



662. Post 4360041 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 07, 2014, 06:20:46 AM
Bet when we come back we'll start at 749 and Coinbull will come swooping in with his BTC address.  Wink


18 more at 1030 at 1:16 am lol

IMO: this is not a pause unless the dump they paused was not posted at all.. which is the most iffy idea.

However looking at the chart much more coins have been dumped in the last 24hrs with no stuttering.. so I think it was a ddos perhaps

17 more at 1030 at 1:23 am



663. Post 4360080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 07, 2014, 06:24:58 AM
Bet when we come back we'll start at 749 and Coinbull will come swooping in with his BTC address.  Wink


18 more at 1030 at 1:16 am lol

IMO: this is not a pause unless the dump they paused was not posted at all.. which is the most iffy idea.

However looking at the chart much more coins have been dumped in the last 24hrs with no stuttering.. so I think it was a ddos perhaps

Why is no one on the other exchanges panic selling? It really looks like it was a cutoff. Is that not a free chance to sell now?

well the same reason there sub 1k before hand. They're victim to flow of fiat in and out.

I'm still just confused about this being caused by that measly selloff .. and the dumper should just dump when he can.

I've been unable to access the webpage so I'm assuming unless they have a panic button where they can just cut the system off hard this has to be ddos

yet the buy are still flowing through this is oddddddd



664. Post 4360165 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 07, 2014, 06:29:49 AM
Bet when we come back we'll start at 749 and Coinbull will come swooping in with his BTC address.  Wink


18 more at 1030 at 1:16 am lol

IMO: this is not a pause unless the dump they paused was not posted at all.. which is the most iffy idea.

However looking at the chart much more coins have been dumped in the last 24hrs with no stuttering.. so I think it was a ddos perhaps

Why is no one on the other exchanges panic selling? It really looks like it was a cutoff. Is that not a free chance to sell now?

well the same reason there sub 1k before hand. They're victim to flow of fiat in and out.

I'm still just confused about this being caused by that measly selloff .. and the dumper should just dump when he can.

I just hope the dump isn't over 10,000 because I didn't prepare any fiat for that.

Since I don't play on gox I can still sell some coins if the market is going that way.. but I think no need to panic till we get some info from someone out of gox.



665. Post 4360205 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: NamelessOne on January 07, 2014, 06:33:56 AM
Gox also appears to have some kind of in-house bot with access to the exchange still and it is still buying, hahaha. This bots seems to be the 15btc buy bot that has been around for a while trying to push the price upwards every 5-10 minutes.

in a minute we shall find out .. if this bot is still active lol

it bought at 10:37.. lol if this was an elaborate hack to show the gox bot.. oh god

6hrs at that rate = 1100 by 7:41am lol



666. Post 4360467 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: bassclef on January 07, 2014, 06:51:46 AM
Gox also appears to have some kind of in-house bot with access to the exchange still and it is still buying, hahaha. This bots seems to be the 15btc buy bot that has been around for a while trying to push the price upwards every 5-10 minutes.

in a minute we shall find out .. if this bot is still active lol

it bought at 10:37.. lol if this was an elaborate hack to show the gox bot.. oh god

6hrs at that rate = 1100 by 7:41am lol

LOL There it is! Yeah I was just doing similar calculations. This has revealed their 'price pusher' bot to the world, hahah. That thing has been around for a least a couple weeks now. My theory is more that they hit the panic button when the market went in a direction they and their bot didn't want.

Maybe it's simply a market maker bot. Hard to tell.

either way its the only thing working on gox. and that is really not legit.

cavirtex is raising closer to 1k lol do they know its the gox market maker? oh many lulz to ensue



667. Post 4360568 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: TERA on January 07, 2014, 07:04:33 AM
I do not know why such small numbers would even be a matter of discussion. And if the price went down it's not "because of the dump", but, "because there is no bid support".

gox broke.. that is what was being discussed.. lol



668. Post 4361405 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: DaSheep on January 07, 2014, 08:05:31 AM
It's still hard to believe that some vulnerability like this surfaced just now with mtgox's tiny volume and not back in the old days when it was the market leader and thousands of people were trading there, with the ticker constantly on fire and shooting rainbows and fireballs everywhere.

Good point.
You're right, during the march bubble the traffic was alot higher and they should be able to handle it by now...
On the other hand it's gox and they never handled anything like they should.

I don't know, it was just a theory and it makes more sense (to me) than a hack or mark switching off the exchange because someone dumped a few hundred coins. Wink


The api overloaded by an order book change by a bigger player explanation works for me, it fits well with the info at hand. But doesn't quite explain why only one person.. or 5 people were able to get 5 buys completed while the rest of the world watched and the website was down. Can it be chalked up to lag? alone I find it odd the 5 orders were all buys.



669. Post 4362057 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: simonk83 on January 07, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Glad to see the ButtHead, I mean, CoinBull followed through on his bet.

Not. Shocking.

Yeah, he seems to have disappeared hey.

He has his own TA thread, he doesn't like gifs Cheesy or choo choo I think.



670. Post 4362846 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: mmitech on January 07, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
I am about to buy 7 bitcoin. It just seems like a lull before another price hike. Is anyone else waiting for a price drop?

[trolling] join repietila investors club, I've heard that fancy wine and cigars are on the house, he promise you a price of $400/BTC, so you might be a winner and a millionaire the same as him....[/trolling]

no seriously, it all depends on your strategy, if you are a long term investor then it really doesn't matter at what price you will buy, Bitcoin has proven that constant growth over time, if you are a trader and want to catch a dip to make a stronger position then welcome to the gambling club Wink
 

my friends don't understand why I won't sell, they just don't get it.  However that is because I chose to go long, figure out what you want to do before you do it.



671. Post 4362916 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 07, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
I am about to buy 7 bitcoin. It just seems like a lull before another price hike. Is anyone else waiting for a price drop?

this is the greed/fear paralysis. over and over, my friends and family express an interest to get into bitcoin, but want to wait until a price dip. then, when there is a dip, they fear a crash and don't want in. Then it hits a new ATH and they want in again...on the next dip.

most who even want to buy on a crash, won't even make and account and send some funds to stagger bear buys Cheesy



672. Post 4364148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

oh the candle it went green for a moment



673. Post 4364471 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 07, 2014, 12:19:47 PM
Why do people claim that Huobi's volume is faked?

dunno, at the least the 0% fees usually brings up the argument of bot trading to themselves



674. Post 4364717 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

295 coin wall at 950 just got sold on cavirtex Sad



675. Post 4364908 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: Sitarow on January 07, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
295 coin wall at 950 just got sold on cavirtex Sad




gut said sell the day trade stash before it drops. and now were down to 925 oh well...I said I was hodling I wrote no lies.



676. Post 4365041 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: magicmexican on January 07, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
So we rise on weekends and dip on start of the week. What is this sorcery?

just a case of tuesdays', however there are always going to be sellers. and there will always be buyers, but they're will only ever be 21m BTC to be mined



677. Post 4365160 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

prolly bots selling on macd crossing signals : D



678. Post 4365244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: arepo on January 07, 2014, 01:15:54 PM
prolly bots selling on macd crossing signals : D

maybe. we just got a bearish crossover on 6-hour stamp data.

400+ coins bringing it down to 822

followed by some rebuying to 840 and btc-e even to 849



679. Post 4365300 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: DaRude on January 07, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
A bear whale is getting spanked by a bull whale on btc-e Smiley

yar just hope were dropping off the excess baggage before heading to the moon again

and stamp has whale bull to



680. Post 4365517 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: hdbuck on January 07, 2014, 01:35:02 PM
good lord stamp is on fire what the hell is going on over there? Shocked

just bear whale vs bull whale and all the little sheep fish



681. Post 4365580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: porcupine87 on January 07, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Do you think after each correction (or crash if you will) there are cashing out some big wahles and not buying back? So maybe the bitcoins get distributed among more people?

i see it as nibbles from new entry, bites from big pocket long new investors, and swallows from long term whales ..When they get swallowed quickly I think its going to an already strong whale



682. Post 4365782 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: segeln on January 07, 2014, 01:50:35 PM
6h and 4h StochRSI looks bad, altho not sure how good is it for predicting the future Cheesy
No, it Looks good.Because we are oversold now and byuing should beginn

Do you think SecondMarket and other btc funds are acquiring on dips and or in general not just solely off the exchanges



683. Post 4366893 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: medialab101 on January 07, 2014, 02:43:55 PM

For anyone who hasn't seen the reason for this flash-crash.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403499.new#new

derp,  then were bound to rebound hard if that's what caused us to dip. Read it on twitter hours ago...people are just so sensitive to China... However they do the most volume so they are rightly so paying close attention



684. Post 4367213 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: macsga on January 07, 2014, 03:14:42 PM
You may wanna take a look at the poll, of course it will be either above or below 850 Cheesy
There's only ONE option for the poll. Adam should have known better.

1. HODL!!!!!!!1
+1



685. Post 4368226 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.52h):

Quote from: DaRude on January 07, 2014, 04:10:22 PM

For anyone who hasn't seen the reason for this flash-crash.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403499.new#new

Is there anything new in that 'news'? Isn't it the same situation as announced in December just clarified?

I didn't see a flash crash, I saw a correction.

I suppose we'll all know in 24hrs.

A bear wanted to manipulate the market in the early hours (and still trying on btc-e) just needed some kind of negative news to play on top of.

still some resistance all around. Hopefully fiat hits the exchanges in waves and we lift off.. I just like saying choo cho is all



686. Post 4376974 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: windjc on January 08, 2014, 12:19:30 AM
It surprises me that no one see's the obvious. Large manipulators wait for negative PR and then take the opportunity to start the drop, knowing that people will attribute it to the news and panic.

Holding is not because you're sticking with your internet friends, its because by and large individual amateur investors are going to have a really hard time timing the market properly and not losing money. You will lose less if you just step away and stop thinking about it. It's either going to be worth millions or nothing at all. You joined up for this ride, so don't quit your day job.

And please, stop complaining.




I dont sign up often to the "manipulators" meme. But in this case it looks pretty obvious. There is really no news here.

However bears may win out intermediate term. I expected an in flow of fiat this week. It doesn't look like it has arrived.

I like to imagine it more like this, we're over prepared to react to bad news from China...people seeing the self cenorship of Taobao freaks them out and they pre panic now.. which is ever worse then what happened back in early dec... oh well.. I thought 950 was a good exit on cavirtex but I'm just caught up in hodling Cheesy so I think I'll just ride the roller coaster the same as I do when it is going up



687. Post 4377080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: inca on January 08, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
My bet is insider trading on the arrest of a manipulator in China. The real dumping hasn't even begun.

The cringingly obvious attempts to spread FUD from the perma bears on this thread is awful. Please sell so Walsoraj can buy back at a lower level!

So the price has gone back to where it was 48 hours ago. Big deal? After such an uptick it was obvious prices would correct down again.

Reading this thread is like watching a manic depressive who forgot to take their tablets!

I am more inclined to hodl now following bad news out of China, we need to to move away from following their actions due to the volume they trade. Even as a bear its plain to see a large part of this market is jumping to panic buy or sell based on China's mood which is way to much respect for the track record they have with honest trade.



688. Post 4377187 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 08, 2014, 12:37:28 AM
"In related news, the millions of dollars in bitcoin seized by the FBI from Ross Ulbricht and the first Silk Road, currently stored in a set of online wallets, appears to be on the move. A source in the U.S. Justice Department said that “authorities” have access to the Ulbricht’s bitcoin cache and may be selling it off for less volatile currencies in the next few weeks."

"The reason for selling is that the Government has lost faith in the value of bitcoin and does not want to deal with the volatility of the currency,” the source said"

http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/07/the-silk-roads-libertas-is-free-to-the-annoyance-of-us-authorities/
LOL!

exactly what I was gonna post and ask...do we really think the turmoil is over. This has been looming over our heads since they were seized. Now I can only hope that is pure FUD Cheesy



689. Post 4377646 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: GaliX on January 08, 2014, 12:51:31 AM
is there any line left that could mean some resistance before the bottom?

looks like we just moved back to a channel we' got in and returned to every time we had a steep rally following the last time we visited low 7s



690. Post 4377834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: zakalwe on January 08, 2014, 01:18:34 AM
Perfect storm approaching: Obvious manipulation on Houbi. All China exchanges getting shut down by end of Jan. China's eBay just banned sales of miners. FBI knows something we don't and has lost faith in bitcoin.

The end is near.


LOL

you are a funny guy. Stop smoking weed dude  Wink

it ain't weed that makes him think like that.

he just wants to be a manipulator as well,



691. Post 4378375 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: [Default Trust] is Tyrannically Centralized! (goat) on January 08, 2014, 01:54:30 AM
Whoever is quoting Walsofucktard goes straight to my ignore list. Hello?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404354.0;topicseen


people might not know who the trolls are.. i wonder why this is gone :/

clearly the FBI set this up so Wal could run the fud train while they load em on to the exchanges to sell below market price



692. Post 4378707 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

the..swings today are just so fierce.. big money was made for many with balls and coin stashes



693. Post 4378998 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Tyson95 on January 08, 2014, 02:30:46 AM
the..swings today are just so fierce.. big money was made for many with balls and coin stashes

Can normal humans trade like this or is it all bots?

of course, my balls retracted ( ovaries for the female traders ), 999 was my peak sell option, 950 was my next exit point and I just didn't get greedy should've had 100$+ a coin traded minus the trading fees



694. Post 4379144 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Loaded on January 08, 2014, 02:43:33 AM
The FBI will not be selling on an exchange. Several people easily capable of buying all the coins have approached them with offers.

I think most agree, but do tell, have you yet to enjoy a nice whale steak today? with some gravy made from rendered blubber?



695. Post 4380590 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uohe5/new_years_greeting_from_btc_china/

read the part on market makers...in relation to the trading fees going back to people opposed to the exchange

I am not fully understanding what qualifies you for a rebate.. but gee.. a lil counter to taobao negative sentiment.



696. Post 4381043 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 08, 2014, 05:03:09 AM
So where are these $650 coins I was promised with the Taobao crash.

make a sacrifice at the whale temple. however stamp is twittering on going sub 800 again...however panic spread in waves.. on both sides.. my guess was 900 or so for gox even by the coming Friday before the last rally.

I think zynga hyped it and taobao ended it. I think fortress fud started it all.



697. Post 4381150 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 08, 2014, 05:13:10 AM
So where are these $650 coins I was promised with the Taobao crash.

make a sacrifice at the whale temple. however stamp is twittering on going sub 800 again...however panic spread in waves.. on both sides.. my guess was 900 or so for gox even by the coming Friday before the last rally.

I think zynga hyped it and taobao ended it. I think fortress fud started it all.

I will have to do that then. Wonder if there is any plankton in the goldfish pond.

to me a true sacrifice is just panic selling the entire stash Cheesy

I'm in the hodl it for a year kinda phase to be honest.. I lurked on it for to long before buying or even mining Sad Luckily my panic buys started at 140.



698. Post 4381241 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

weekend we fought resistance, weekdays we test support lol



699. Post 4382388 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 08, 2014, 06:59:18 AM

Don't you ever get tired? Your posts are entertaining but surely you must get tired of typing bullshit 24/7?

A lot of people have him on ignore. It would be nice if you could stop quoting him.

at least remove him from your quotes then.. and or perhaps you were trolling....



700. Post 4383523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: oda.krell on January 08, 2014, 08:41:24 AM


What is this?

A correction for ants?!



I went to bed on a big bright red 6h candle, expecting I'd wake up to single digits (maybe lower!), and now what do we got here? 940?!

I'm disappointed guys. You can do better. Give it another try, for me.


that's what I am saying.. Rpeilla has yet to post...(here) my crystal ball isn't aligned for the rocket ship yet.



701. Post 4383666 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: niothor on January 08, 2014, 08:45:42 AM


What is this?

A correction for ants?!



I went to bed on a big bright red 6h candle, expecting I'd wake up to single digits (maybe lower!), and now what do we got here? 940?!

I'm disappointed guys. You can do better. Give it another try, for me.

It's only 10 am here , no coffee,  but what the hell is lower that single digits?

decimal places with nothing to left of decimal



702. Post 4383763 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

I feel like someone.. wanted to keep it from crossing down on the 4hr macd @ Gox Cheesy kinda just swooped up, however the swings have been large following the weekend, oh bitcoin you deliver entertainment whenever you can Cheesy



703. Post 4383812 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on January 08, 2014, 08:58:11 AM
Go gox!!!  Cheesy

reviewing the 1 min charts of gox vs huobi, huboi had a bigger run up that kind of ignited someone on gox.



704. Post 4384953 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/01/rbs-pays-600-million-manpulating-interest-rates-big-banks-manipulating-every-market-tune-trillions-dollars.html

whats there to worry about manipulation, I mean banks are the only paying fines to commit it.



705. Post 4385821 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 08, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
Dirty secret 2: I am actually hoping for another moon. Bear markets are terrifying.
No no... you don't seem to understand it very well.
WE ARE GOING TO THE MOON EVEN IF THERE'S A BEAR MARKET!

HODL!!!!!!1
Yes, but it can take years, and in the process, you will inevitably begin doubting yourself.

hah a couple years of waiting to become rich.. do something else productive killing the time Cheesy lol



706. Post 4385982 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on January 08, 2014, 11:45:00 AM

Information overload, my tinfoil hat's overheating Smiley Thanks for posting that, it saves a lot of digging (maybe time to mention the Exchange Stabilisation Fund again, the federal reserves market manipulation department).

it was just to cast a stone on to the pile. it's naive to believe there is no manipulation...humans loves to do it.



707. Post 4386074 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: 600watt on January 08, 2014, 11:53:43 AM

read it last night, linked it here as well. Tera felt it was repetition of stuff already mentioned. Others explained to me how the negative commission for market makers worked seems all around interesting. I mean it is not impossible he's just putting on a front. All the while knowing its closing down...but I doubt it will and huobi is the volume holder so it really depends on how they get cracked down upon if a crack down appears.



708. Post 4386397 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: pietje on January 08, 2014, 12:01:39 PM

read it last night, linked it here as well. Tera felt it was repetition of stuff already mentioned. Others explained to me how the negative commission for market makers worked seems all around interesting. I mean it is not impossible he's just putting on a front. All the while knowing its closing down...but I doubt it will and huobi is the volume holder so it really depends on how they get cracked down upon if a crack down appears.

Will china keep us busy the whole of January? Would've thought China wasnt that importing anymore, but i guess i was wrong.

IMO unless you believe  huobi is faking the volume ( least tinfoil is bots self trading @ 0%) , then it is insane to not take caution noticing they have a 54% of the btc volume. then its btc-e 12.11%, stamp 11.79%, btcchina 7.99%, gox 7.60%.

So yeah it ain't over till the PBOC sing.

Also if its fake volume..then when proven true it would reveal there are less coins in the market then some think.. which would likely cause a price rise.



709. Post 4403964 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: nanobrain on January 09, 2014, 07:24:38 AM
Got pulled over for speeding in the Lambo (30 MPH over). Did not get a ticket:)

Sometimes life is win!

Hey Goat,
I got an email from Zazzle pulling the Lambo tshirt.
I replied and said "this person just bought this car and they can't wear a tshirt with its image?"
No, apparently they got a complaint from Lamborghini about it.

Seems 200K doesn't buy you much Wink

tis quite a shame



710. Post 4404034 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Well, this is something we need to address. I wonder where the majority of ghash.io hashing power is located geographically



711. Post 4404236 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 09, 2014, 07:44:31 AM
Is GHash.IO primarily independent miners pointing their hashpower this way, or is mostly internal to GHash (e.g., hardware at cex.io, etc)?
both

Hmm, I understand GHash does merged mining with alt coins and is thus more appealing to some miners.  But I wonder why more aren't moving to Elegius or another smaller pool giving the current situation and potential (temporary) loss of confidence should something "funny" happen.  Is this a "tragedy of the commons" or is it a case of "meh, whatever"?

well I dunno how badly many will want to commit a double spend as it may ruin the value of their stashes



712. Post 4404376 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Peter R on January 09, 2014, 08:01:16 AM
well I dunno how badly many will want to commit a double spend as it may ruin the value of their stashes

I completely agree that if GHash.IO achieved >50% for a period of time that it would very likely be a non-issue.  Like many people have pointed out, they are incentivized to follow the rules; if they double-spend and orphan a bunch of long chains, we'll all find out and it would hurt their BTC holdings and mining reputation.  

But I must admit that I'd be happier if all pools had < 25%.  

the paranoid thought process of a malicious attack gaining control of the dominant pool is what worries me most. opposed to double spend attempts by the pool itself. I also would hope to see miners shift to similar pools, sadly nothing forces people to hold up the integrity of the network.



713. Post 4404601 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: F-bernanke on January 09, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
If I were a big BTC holder (like the winklevoss), I would set up a miningfarm just to balance this shit out a bit, It might even turn a profit, if not, it least it protects the network.

more importantly the money invested in the btc lol



714. Post 4406797 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: magicmexican on January 09, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
Massive drop

massive?



715. Post 4406849 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: Ashitank on January 09, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
Any one news that caused the drop or it just that time of the day or week to Panic sell.

you really didn't see all the 51% posts? lol



716. Post 4413911 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: saekki on January 09, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Seems that Overstock is already accepting Bitcoin. Wasn't this supposed to happen somewhere around the second quarter?
https://help.overstock.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5794/c/4

No denying if they got that process rolling and it goes smooth we'll be at a tipping point on business accepting it as payment



717. Post 4418591 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: San1ty on January 09, 2014, 11:26:08 PM
Fiat is an altcoin with a bad mining algorithm!

how could "random" ever be bad?   Smiley

While reddit is panicking about a potential 51% Attack by GHASH... No-one notices that fiat is under a permanent 100% attack!

lol cause we care to much to let ourselves be fucked over by lazy miners.

also, can't wait to see the fiat lag on overstock.com processing payments. I bet they thought it would be much more of an undertaking to facilitate said transacations



718. Post 4418780 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.53h):

Quote from: uvwvj on January 09, 2014, 11:32:21 PM

Does he have a source? I don't know much about Loaded, he is a super big whale right?

Yes. And he is buying for other whales to, so maybe he is the source.

I was first told they would go to an invited Gov. Auction but that was very soon after it happened.   Also no doubt in my mind Loaded already has called FBI with offers.

money talks



719. Post 4422377 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 10, 2014, 03:26:24 AM
Who is going to buy at Overstock using Bitcoin?

  • a) Random Joe who has USD but no Bitcoin;
  • b) Speculator who is trading in order to get hold of as much Bitcoin as he can;
  • c) Speculator who is cashing out and leaving the market;
  • d) Believer who is certain that 1 BTC will be worth 10,000 next year.
  • e) Speculator who is trying to convince others to buy his bitcoins at higher price.

I think the range of types of people is grossly limited. There are many who just want to be part of something new and exciting.

Those are part of (a) or (d) depending on how much faith they have.  The (a)s would have the hassles and losses of converting USD to BTC, a limited choice of merchants, and will have nothing to show for it except the receipt. (A Lamborghini bought through that route looks exactly the same as one bought with USD.)

Or people who have BTC and want to actively spend them on stuff they need.
Those are included (c). (Perhaps I should have said "Miner or Speculator".)  

By the way, spending 1 Bitcoin that is supposed to be worth 10,000 USD next year to buy 900 USD worth of merchandise today is almost a confession that one has lost the Faith.

only if you don't buy another bitcoin via your exchange when you spend one.

EDIT: I think the price, priced in q2 launch of overstock I expect there will be a one week lag or more in the move for those who will want to speculate, those who want to buy on overstock via bitcoin in general, I would just knowing I have to pay 5 bucks for an gift card credit card and or ukash go go bitcoin cutting useless fee's when it can



720. Post 4424887 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 10, 2014, 07:28:07 AM
Well, you make a good point.  I don't pay any attention to the Chinese markets, but I do watch for trends forming on gox and stamp.  My trade signals, though, are limited to BTC-e.

swear we follow huobi alot now days..but whatever another story to be uncovered in full.



As to the other bearish sentiment why so afraid? we're up $30 bucks since last Friday.. a reasonable gain probably would've been higher had we not over shot so hard last weekend.



721. Post 4425196 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 10, 2014, 07:55:05 AM
As to the other bearish sentiment why so afraid? we're up $30 bucks since last Friday.. a reasonable gain probably would've been higher had we not over shot so hard last weekend.

Not afraid at all.  I'm uncertain of the short term direction, so 50-50.  

One must consider the effect that the FUD merchants can have on the newly initiated members of the 'trade bitcoins' population.

FUD defined:
1.  Fear, Uncertainity, Doubt.
2.  F'd Up Data
Your choice.

The fundamentals all point to long term increases.  My cold storage wallet believes that to be true.  My trading account is a different story.



well, where I trade I had to have sold near 999-954 to make anything worth the risk of trading ...I watch the 295 coin wall go buy in a single woosh and said shucks should've been greedy Cheesy but I still don't even see reason to  remain bearish on the short term direction.

I think today's sell offs align with the panic of 51% attack news, overstock type news will take a couple days to set in as it hit on Thursday.



722. Post 4425283 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 10, 2014, 08:13:35 AM
Perhaps I'm too conservative in my trading account.  ::shrug::

edit:  time out.  -e is on the move.

probably not.. high fees on my exchange.. doesn't allow for good swing trading Sad



723. Post 4425819 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 10, 2014, 08:52:59 AM
Perhaps I'm too conservative in my trading account.  ::shrug::

edit:  time out.  -e is on the move.

probably not.. high fees on my exchange.. doesn't allow for good swing trading Sad

You might want to give BTC-e a try.  The fee structure is decent and they haven't had a lag longer than ~20 seconds since I switched in early Dec. unlike MtSux.

My suggestion is to open an account and transfer BTC, not fiat.  Trading from the web page gets tiresome because of the need to refresh often, but I've found that the QtBitcoin Trader works extremely well.

Depending on your circumstances, you may want to try it out with fractional coins.  Also, I don't leave substantial amounts on the exchange.  As with your initial deposit, withdraw in BTC.  Keep the volumes of transfers on the smallish side and you have no worries.

Caveat:  Your mileage may vary and batteries are not included.

true, I've used em for small alt coin purchases, but never really thought it through on buying and selling there for swings D: .. good point



724. Post 4431990 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 10, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
k all my friends are official all fait, time to move UP!

lol

It doesnt look like we are going down. So that leaves sideways or up Smiley


Don't forget backwards or into the 5th dimension...

i believe there are infinite dimensions.
and i also believe in all of them bitcoin successes!

 Cheesy
l
only one reality I want success in. sadly my dreams have already visited 10000



725. Post 4438620 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

I think the bots will panic buy if a couple bullish new joiners buy up the coins over 960 gox for long enough or 867 bitstamp lets go new bulls



726. Post 4444463 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: Kramerc on January 11, 2014, 08:08:17 AM
Huobi is very down again.

Much brewing.

Wow.

but its at 874 lol and seems to have pulled stamp to 870 ish



727. Post 4446292 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

uhh.. hmm let me just buy 918,000 or so worth of btc on a Saturday morning.. if I live east coast lol



728. Post 4446687 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: pietje on January 11, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
stamp just passed 900 with good buying support.  Smiley

the weekend is my new fave Cheesy



729. Post 4458801 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: F-bernanke on January 11, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
uhh.. hmm let me just buy 918,000 or so worth of btc on a Saturday morning.. if I live east coast lol

Yeah, goes well with the morning coffee  Grin

no lie, then I fell asleep. This push kept me up longer than expected as I had just finished fixing a friends computer then joked we were likely to see 1000 before he left.. and four - five minutes later some one nearly drops 1million into btc. What a glorious weekend yet again.

edit : at 980 on gox is probably where we see some1 try and hammer us back in to the lower re tracement areas. Mind you bear-whale vs bull-whale is always an interesting predicament



730. Post 4458979 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: dgarcia on January 12, 2014, 02:40:58 AM
uhh.. hmm let me just buy 918,000 or so worth of btc on a Saturday morning.. if I live east coast lol

Yeah, goes well with the morning coffee  Grin

no lie, then I fell asleep. This push kept me up longer than expected as I had just finished fixing a friends computer then joked we were likely to see 1000 before he left.. and four - five minutes later some one nearly drops 1million into btc. What a glorious weekend yet again.

edit : at 980 on gox is probably where we see some1 try and hammer us back in to the lower re tracement areas. Mind you bear-whale vs bull-whale is always an interesting predicament

That could be a real problem if it is so easy to manipulate the BTC price. You take BTC-E as hostage by putting a wall, they run away and other exchanges will follow?

Cause its easy to drop 900k, and repeat all things are manipulated...why wouldn't btc be. I think all in all as it develops and adoptions grows it gets harder to manipulate.



731. Post 4459619 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

changing of the guard lol



732. Post 4463270 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: Mythul on January 12, 2014, 11:19:09 AM
WARNING

BREAKING NEWS: HUOBI BANK ACCOUNS CLOSED !
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v0vw0/huobicom_no_longer_funding_through_personal_bank/

Tera, when you said wait for the next FUD, it will be the FUD of all FUDS.. well here you go.. sacrifices answered. To bad it seems he doesn't talk about the business account still being open till the end of the reddit lol



733. Post 4463339 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: Ducky1 on January 12, 2014, 11:33:19 AM


Tera, when you said wait for the next FUD, it will be the FUD of all FUDS.. well here you go.. sacrifices answered.

This fud does not scare enyone, so the FUD of all FUDS has to be better than this

you can't say that.. were building a large red candle.. I am not saying I believe it.. and impart.. usually avoid even selling to make a profit on peoples fear which I consider to be of ill intention.



734. Post 4463407 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: lebing on January 12, 2014, 11:40:10 AM

Tera, when you said wait for the next FUD, it will be the FUD of all FUDS.. well here you go.. sacrifices answered.

This fud does not scare enyone, so the FUD of all FUDS has to be better than this

you can't say that.. were building a large red candle.. I am not saying I believe it.. and impart.. usually avoid even selling to make a profit on peoples fear which I consider to be of ill intention.

Apparently they are now actually accepting through their business account. This is actually very very good news if that is indeed the case.

Yes and no, it is more middle of the road. We need to hear why this exchange can operate via a business account opposed to others. That or they've all been given the green light to return to business account transfer accounts and Huobi went this route first? lots to speculate over football today.



735. Post 4463445 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on January 12, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
Lol people are so stupid. Personal business account is replaced with a more legit business account and there is panic. Wtf

it's different if you got money in the exchange, and people there are likely to panic a bit.




736. Post 4463590 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: mellowyellow on January 12, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
I was just reading the trading view chart chatbox and I think the problem here is not for Chinese, they can still deposit. It's a problem for anyone who was using the exchange from outside China.

Still trying to find out what is going on. But this is very bearish.

If China could shake foreigners out with this move I am sure they'd approve Cheesy We'll let see how Huobi digests this info .. the 5200 is the beginning of a bounce? %5300 the a reversal of the bear panic attempt



737. Post 4464266 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

gox did a firework in honor of 4000, jebus.. saw it go to 990 then insta dumps



738. Post 4465094 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: pietje on January 12, 2014, 01:40:42 PM
Because China has declared that illegal and it will be likely smashed down upon very soon. So Huobi is essentially just the illegal exchange now.

A few days ago he said that they are trying to find a legal loophole by claiming to be in the ''internet industry'' and not the ''financial industry''. Who knows how this will turn out, the great houbini might trick us.

One way or another, it will likely be shut down somewhere in the future. And i dont want to be in btc when that happens, tricky part is to know when to sell and not be asleep or something..
For now i just went back to btc.

http://thenextweb.com/asia/2014/01/09/singapore-bucks-the-trend-and-welcomes-bitcoin-laying-out-tax-rules-for-the-virtual-currency/?fromcat=all#!r0WWd a country opening its financial arms to btc and we ignore it for the most part. An exchange might have to re structure the world is burning to the ground lol

pisses me off that because China may or may not have an exchange we freak the fuck out.. if they're smart they just leave the exchange you thought could collapse asap. I don't mind if you sell and withdraw or just send your btc to a wallet till you find a new exchange it's so trivial.



739. Post 4465610 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

This bounce is so in the anti gravity zone, hopefully it will hit the 5300 mark on huobi and rocket boosters ingnite



740. Post 4466668 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: TERA on January 12, 2014, 03:39:51 PM
I just think that people have an exaggerated impression about a sudden paradigm shift over a mere 3 months in which the dynamics of bitcoin trading and the amount of volume and depth needed to support the price has completely changed,  when in fact if China is removed from the equation, things could go right back to how they were in early 2013.

First you're talking about a ban - that's not on the cards right at this moment. But it is a big question. How important is China to Bitcoin's fundamentals when the speculation has died down? Not important at this early stage I would say. Bitcoin is like a seedling now and will grow in any direction it has to. If we were a couple of years down the line and Bitcoin was in widespread use in China and then they banned it then yes, that would be a problem. But for now the only problems are FUD and panic.

There is also support building every day in the US and other places. Why would things go all the way back to early 2013? No way in my opinion - the "cheap coins" will be snapped up before then!  Grin

This is an optimistic scenario that bulls keep repeating. In reality we have not seen any solid evidence that such a support exists on non-chinese exchanges. Each Chinese crash has been stopped by a sudden volume in explosion on a... Chinese exchange - either btcchina or huobi. You really have no idea what will happen when China is removed. It's like an uncharted territory. It's possible that your optimistic scenario occurs. Or it's possible that we dip back to 400s or lower because the type of horsepower needed to support these levels simply doesn't exist yet on non-chinese exchanges, and 400 would still be a damn impressive increase from the level of 100 we were supporting previously, due to recent developments. Money talks, and even though we might be incredibly bullish, it might still take time to gather all the fresh fiat needed to support these chinese-meth-cocaine-magic-powered levels of Yuan enchantment.

they also started on a Chinese exchange.. you need more sleep my friend.

you need to let off of the TA and breath in the global air of change. Countries accepting bitcoin as a part of their economies, economies continuing to struggle, overstock opening btc acceptance a quarter earlier putting every other online retailer inhaling dust fumes.

These bring more and more people in to the game that weren't coming, most people struggle to understand why you'd buy a bitcoin if you can't spend it easily, they'll easily learn why we weren't worried about spending when they find out how deflationary currencies work.



741. Post 4466873 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

Quote from: TERA on January 12, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
The volume levels seem like too drastic of a change to have occured over only 4 months. If they had decreased by 25% or maybe even 50% then that might make sense but not 80%.


less ta, more air and sleep



742. Post 4467362 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):

was reading the rp obsever thread, something tells me he knows we counter trade his posts loooool



743. Post 4478349 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: favelle75 on January 13, 2014, 03:32:38 AM
I skimmed through the last few pages but couldn't find anything new. We're going down because people still panic about that huobi account thing?

There is no buying pressure. So after our new "Weekend Buyer(s)" is done, we go back down.

So weird to be going back down after the weekend is done rather than on Friday night.  Very weird weekend IMO.

not at all, we resume our new year trend of positive growth on the weekend. then fud about huobi came out and we're experiencing turbulence, I would postulate that we've made it through the rough patch  until China re-releases a statement and or go after the business account of huobi



744. Post 4478800 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: mb300sd on January 13, 2014, 04:07:39 AM
houbi just needs to go bi bi already

overstock taking us to the moon on monday as soon as funds arrive

yeah I mean if we wanted to re-test lows on true fear we should have seen mass panic as soon as fud hit, I think manipulators are taking a turn trying to get some cheap coins.

I guess Monday will be our savior.. oh joy 58 minutes from eastern north america monday lol

edit: what if we didn't see a bigger dump to avoid the triple bottom Cheesy which would have crystal ballers seeing to the moon



745. Post 4479589 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 13, 2014, 05:27:37 AM
5050 broke on Huobi. Let's see if this goes anywhere....

I want to hit a triple bottom already so we can finally have the TA'rs seeing choo choo



746. Post 4479686 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Richy_T on January 13, 2014, 05:33:24 AM
Has anyone figured out why the price goes up on Friday afternoons and Saturdays and goes down on Sundays?

God is angry because you're looking at Bitcoin charts instead of telling him how wonderful he is.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v2vr7/bitellcom_reports_that_some_chinese_bank_has/

so opposite FUD monday is here, haven't read it .. let me delve into this tidbit

the main title lead me to believe that there is no prohibition on banks in China

seems like a weibo post similarly styled to the damned initial bank fud that lead to the crash in December...can't wait for sources or confirmation as this would lower the fears that Huobi closed the public bank account in fear, this would mean they switched to the better channel.

edit: and yet huobi starts to dump, so I am guessing the last manipulation move of the weekend.



747. Post 4479789 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 13, 2014, 05:44:06 AM
More recent bad press:

Aussie Mum In Anti-Bitcoin Crusade After Son's Death
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/01/aussie-mum-in-anti-bitcoin-crusade-after-sons-death/

Investors beware of Bitcoin
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/fEXo8r2OcAIZHWOMbZmmfO/Investors-beware-of-Bitcoin.html


you mean more fud? cool thanks for the repeat of old stuff



748. Post 4479890 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 13, 2014, 05:57:46 AM
I really don't mind the market going up or down. I don't trade. But this drop and this selling is just stupid. There is just no reason for it. I'm still pretty sure it's 90% pure panic. Based on nothing.

prettty muchh



749. Post 4480074 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: RicePicker on January 13, 2014, 05:59:18 AM
I really don't mind the market going up or down. I don't trade. But this drop and this selling is just stupid. There is just no reason for it. I'm still pretty sure it's 90% pure panic. Based on nothing.

You do realize you can say the same thing for when the price rises $100 in one night. Its pure panic buying and its buying based on nothing.

not when actual good things are happening in terms of btc infrastructure, but yes panic buys and sells do happen.

one buy mainly pushed the price up Saturday morning...so not that much panic buying... even followed that move.

if sources saying banks are talking to exchanges, and have channels for business in China are proven legit we can watch the panic re buys. Cheesy



750. Post 4480196 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 13, 2014, 06:20:50 AM
you mean more fud? cool thanks for the repeat of old stuff
You are welcome. I thought bitcoiners would want to know what the press says, whether they agree with it or not.

For example I believe that the mini(?)crash that is happening now is due to the Chinese TV program, that must have reached - and scared - many people in China.  Arbitrage would explain why the other non-Chinese exchanges are falling too.

One point that struck me in the second article is the comparison of Bitcoin to bearer bonds. They too were once an anonymous international "currency" outside the reach of governments and banks. For that reason (it says) banks have been forbidden to deal with them.



just saying the first of them is old news, as in it has been posted here.. and reddit.
I try to post both ways, wether it is good or bad also I call it FUD unless it has multiple more robust sources not just 3 micro bloggers or twitter post...

well..I guess you could say the downtrend that begun after the huobi personal bank closure started the trend and the TV program in China over extended it.



751. Post 4480525 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: mmitech on January 13, 2014, 07:01:53 AM
good morning, so what is it "again" ? where is the people who yell "really low volume" when the price is going up ? why dont they do the same and yell "price will not go down on low volume" ?  ah sure they want the market to act on their desired direction.....  Cheesy

think we finish the day around 950 gox, if the news FUD I linked early gets run with and or proven relevant



752. Post 4481232 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 13, 2014, 08:08:08 AM
Those guys putting in market buy orders on MtGox when the ask volume is so slim.... I feel bad for them. They don't know what they're walking into....  Undecided I was wondering what the hell is going on for a long time.

they want coins.. want to lock em , put em in cold storage and wait ..5 years.. maybe a year who knows.. they control the money and so they choose how to spend it.



753. Post 4481372 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 13, 2014, 08:20:57 AM
Those guys putting in market buy orders on MtGox when the ask volume is so slim.... I feel bad for them. They don't know what they're walking into....  Undecided I was wondering what the hell is going on for a long time.

they want coins.. want to lock em , put em in cold storage and wait ..5 years.. maybe a year who knows.. they control the money and so they choose how to spend it.

Sure, but you had to wonder why there was such low ask volume on Mtgox from 915-960 and yet the price was still going down. They thought they could reverse the trend yet they weren't looking at the bigger picture. The market order was up to 930. The price might go up now since some things have changed. But at that time I felt it was a terrible move.

I agree whomever could have got a much better deal etc, perhaps they thought they could as you say reverse the trend, but they should have at least waited for a lul in the dumping to try it  Cheesy mind you it was about 250 coins that brought it to 990 Cheesy

https://twitter.com/davidmarcus/status/422632561882316800 lol says you can sell miners on paypal Cheesy
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v3fgy/david_marcus_president_of_paypal_goes_on_twitter/ Says they believe in bitcoin, to the moon we go , to the moon.



754. Post 4481446 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

http://techcitynews.com/2014/01/13/etoro-launches-bitcoin-trade/ more bull fud Cheesy fuel the rockets with sub 1000$ coins



755. Post 4481497 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: seleme on January 13, 2014, 08:40:26 AM
http://techcitynews.com/2014/01/13/etoro-launches-bitcoin-trade/ more bull fud Cheesy fuel the rockets with sub 1000$ coins

EToro launched it like 3 weeks ago, and I opened a thread here about it like 2 weeks ago

was it live or private beta? I do remember reading about it but I don't recall it being live or not



756. Post 4482099 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldmoney-group-adds-bitcoin-to-commodity-vault-9055414.html

I dunno how people are bearish on 2014



757. Post 4486760 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on January 13, 2014, 05:31:51 AM
5050 broke on Huobi. Let's see if this goes anywhere....

I want to hit a triple bottom already so we can finally have the TA'rs seeing choo choo

well that was close enough for me, I assume we'll resume an uptrend till the next fud bomb Cheesy



758. Post 4487166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

lets go stamp, start your engine.



759. Post 4487406 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: koryu on January 13, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
lets go stamp, start your engine.

i dont see this happen, looks like the recent buyers dont want to hodl for long time

.well I don't mind slow walk upwards,  but shoot me, I'm a bull.

someone keeps in the 120 coin walls on stamp, and it keeps getting put back, either way..healthy ish



760. Post 4488057 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Bunkervogel on January 13, 2014, 04:31:18 PM
The wall on bitstamp (820$) is growing larger and larger...

no one is biting it, build it up to make it look scary

pera : you can see where it is silly



761. Post 4493773 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 13, 2014, 09:51:05 PM
Wait I thought we were all doomed? Sorry Bears back to your caves.



don't worry its all good, I left for lunch with 1000+ btc at 820.. now there is only 44 Cheesy carry on, btc, carry on.



762. Post 4494195 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

4900+4950 cny wall is growing.. 1600 coins, 1200+ at 4950 ..some1 is afraid we go choo choo after 5000cny?



763. Post 4494825 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Richy_T on January 13, 2014, 10:37:51 PM

So minute 31 after your child son dies, you're cool with it? Acceptance and all that?

No but you stop blaming anything and everything that comes within range. (OK, 30 minutes may be a little short). Certainly by they time you're taking that grief-driven anger to the media, you should be getting a clue.

 I can tell you we're trying to make a strong point. I would agree she deflecting any guilt she feels towards Bitcoin. He was an adult he chose to break the law, it really back fired for him and I am sorry for her loss but don't drag others down with you it.

yeah I went to help the family, and the wall is down ish - looks like it was eaten on the minute chart.



764. Post 4494871 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 13, 2014, 10:51:38 PM
So stamp is leading this rally? Wonder if coinsetter is allready with stamp? Or it is just regular buying madnes on stamp/bitfinex  Smiley
it pretty much coincided with huobi and or it followed huobi



765. Post 4495028 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on January 13, 2014, 10:58:06 PM
So stamp is leading this rally? Wonder if coinsetter is allready with stamp? Or it is just regular buying madnes on stamp/bitfinex  Smiley
it pretty much coincided with huobi and or it followed huobi

?
Stamp had 1h 30min ago over 1000 btc bought... Huobi was much lower.

some1 ate a wall the price didn't really move, if you look at 16:30 bitcoinwisdom 1 minute chart you can see huobi started to move then.. and then at 16:39 or so someone decided to munch bits of the 820 wall at stamp

edit: the coolest thing I noticed is that the last two volume buys are about 1hr and 30 min apart lol



766. Post 4495257 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: windjc on January 13, 2014, 11:15:36 PM
This rally is probably just new fiat.

People here forget that people from around the world are investing in bitcoins every week. That is ultimately why the price has averaged a $10 rise per day for the last 3 months.

The day traders swing the price back and forth some $500-$600 in price. But the general up trend of new fiat is consistent.

Just remember, there is more than enough fiat sitting on the sidelines in bid sums alone (not to mention the millions in fiat in trading accounts) to push the price to 1300 TODAY.

So the only reason we are not at ATHs is that a decent amount of the money on the sidelines is waiting for better prices or waiting until the market establishes a more definite bottom.



agreed, I just want the new money at huobi to trigger another round of panic buys.. I like the roller coaster even if its not generally good for the health of bitcoin it sure doens't hurt to watch it though.



767. Post 4495996 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: adnanabbas on January 14, 2014, 12:01:27 AM
I've decided to trade only with bots now. Can't bother thinking on my own anymore, outcome might not be as good, trades less accurately timed but some life should be enjoyed too.

Good idea. My life has been so much better since I started using Holdbot. I check on it periodically to make sure it's doing what it's supposed to, and it's still never moved a single coin from my wallet to the exchange.

Are bots any good for someone who's a complete n00b

I hear as long as they are naked Cheesy



768. Post 4504537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: sayaz on January 14, 2014, 12:16:09 PM

* macsga thinks it's time to refresh this into our memories... Roll Eyes
I personally follow and post here the UPDATED 5 rules of success for you:

1. Don't get emotional from other's people thoughts.
2. Not everyone here is a "nice person" you can trust.
3. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, DON'T TRADE.
4. HODL!!!
5. Until you desperately need the money follow rule #4.

Good Luck!


"Don't get emotional from other people's thoughts"

> Tells people to HODL!!!!! Like you are some kind of cryptospartan, because that isn't encouraging an emotional response at all.

The emotional mindset behind you permabulls is ridiculous.

clearly you haven't managed to hold bitcoin for a year, sorry he's sharing what to do when you do not know what to do.
generally people who buy low and sell high do not need to refer to said rules. There are so many people who panic sell for no real reason
joining in to the panic selling herd, and strong hands pick up their cheap coins and life goes on.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101333871 fud for tuesday.

edit: I haven't even held for a year, as I got in during October...but I sure plan to hodl tight to em



769. Post 4504790 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Ashitank on January 14, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Drop incoming !

though at times this is a troll box, how about you explain why?

in honor of you rally incoming !

(in honor of me, positive pressure from the humans of the world on businesses to accept btc for transactions, new exchanges opening, more physical bitcoin atm out in the world.

are people going to hedge bitcoin if the dow continues to drop ?



770. Post 4504900 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: oda.krell on January 14, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

How about:

Consolidation incoming!

CONSOLIDATE IN MY WALLET please



771. Post 4506136 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: mmitech on January 14, 2014, 02:04:56 PM
this thread is too quiet.....

lazy Tuesday morning, people are bored with the sideways. I am all for it and a triple bottom, then choo choo



772. Post 4506749 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

5005 cny on the good ol' fire coin



773. Post 4507539 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: bambou on January 14, 2014, 03:26:46 PM


600-700$ could definitely happen again before some new ATH. and if it happens, it could also lead to some more drastic plummet because of panic selling madness

could happen, but I think we'd likely see support sooner from people looking to buy back in.



774. Post 4507667 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: segeln on January 14, 2014, 03:38:04 PM

This question has been asked multiple times before: during my time around here at ~$35, then ~$60, then at ~$150, then at ~$210.
The answer was always: "Now".
I agree

I was trying to say that about the person who market bought 298 coins, or the 918 or so coins, they're more likely to be dropping them in to a cold storage. Then a year or longer they can take out a percentage sell and or swing trand with it. If mbtc trading becomes the new norm they'll have lots to play with.

I should buy a certain amount for cold storage call it a hodl term gic..and just perma hodl it



775. Post 4521016 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on January 15, 2014, 06:45:15 AM
The TLDR version of the China news is that some senior party official banking guy restated the Dec 6 announcement which was that people are free to trade in bitcoin at their own risk.

This is being taken as a signs that nothing will happen on 31 Jan.

FUD is FUD but we'll see how that develops...however it is just them sticking to the original statement which kept being taken out of context.



776. Post 4521175 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 15, 2014, 06:50:58 AM
Looks like it's already over. We reached 960 which means it's time to panic sell of course.

Ok i'll stop now.

So like Adam mentioned if we can bust through resistance points, consolidate and build support and break the next point we can choo choo to ATH. I know that requires a lot of things going the way of the bull but not impossible. From the looks of it +20 dollars has 350 coin wall at 960, and -20 @ 940 has 500 coin support not including the price point inbetween... however I think if we don't see major dumps by 6am est we'll probably consolidate at this price range 930-950 @ gox ofc



777. Post 4521502 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

0.01 bot is buying not selling 0.01s think the bot thinks were gonna rally lol



778. Post 4521641 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Chancellor on January 15, 2014, 07:37:57 AM
I'm curious what if anything is going to happen once the 31st comes and nothing happens in China.
Even if nothing is going to happen, I expect some serious dumps one or more days before. People will go fiat just in case. Personally I'm going to hold + transfer some more fiat to the exchange for buying at 300 Wink

I expect a rally, China was just scaring us away from the cheap coins...



779. Post 4521707 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on January 15, 2014, 07:03:26 AM
Looks like it's already over. We reached 960 which means it's time to panic sell of course.

Ok i'll stop now.

So like Adam mentioned if we can bust through resistance points, consolidate and build support and break the next point we can choo choo to ATH. I know that requires a lot of things going the way of the bull but not impossible. From the looks of it +20 dollars has 350 coin wall at 960, and -20 @ 920 has 500 coin support not including the price point in between... however I think if we don't see major dumps by 6am est we'll probably consolidate at this price range 930-950 @ gox ofc


700 coin support at 920 vs 773 resistance at 970

BUILD SUPPORT !!! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE LoL



780. Post 4521824 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: Ducky1 on January 15, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
Choo choo  Smiley



that support is growing..and resistance is dying  for the moment at least

470 coins @ 970  vs  820coins @ 920



781. Post 4521916 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

the lil gox push to 960, might spark huobi into something but it is 1600+ coins to deal with to get to 5200 cny



782. Post 4522883 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: smiley123 on January 15, 2014, 09:35:52 AM
If anybody cares, yet another tv show that mentions bitcoin.  In the tv show Person of Interest, the feds apparently shut down a black market bazaar that sells drugs online for bitcoins.  I'm still not sure if these shows are trying to bash bitcoin, but in any case they are providing a lot of exposure for bitcoin.

just finished watching the episode, too bad ross didn't get saved by a ex cia operative who ends up letting him go in italy lol SPOILER LoL



783. Post 4523535 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

we're moving on up again.. 1000 break today.. would blow my mind



784. Post 4523835 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

It is only 6am... est in 4 minutes.. but I think alot of people trading aren't ready to see above 1000 again so soon and we will see a lot of resistance.. 970 filled back up after the last burst however we'll just have to wait and see what becomes of this bullish morning Cheesy Think about the poor souls seeing this after thinking it was soon to test the 700s Cheesy which I admit could happen at any moment a whale wants it to



785. Post 4529573 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Hey not everyone is greedy.. hodling for a year or more never hurts either



786. Post 4529712 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.55h):

Quote from: TERA on January 15, 2014, 05:52:08 PM
I think that dozens of positive news events about adoption resulted in these two little "dojis" on the weekly chart is bearish indeed. It shows the sheer weight of the suppressed capitulation which will be unleashed as soon as the media flow stops.

don't forget fiat lag Cheesy and verification lag ..and then the final decision lag



787. Post 4531068 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 15, 2014, 07:06:00 PM
this just in 400BTC wall at virtex is being eaten!

this is a really big wall for virtex...

wall down! wall down!

GO GO GO!

 Cheesy

edit: actually the wall was half eaten and then moved to 920$

yessir was about to point that edit out..

http://rare.us/story/overstock-com-ceo-attacks-krugman-hopefully-bitcoin-will-destroy-central-banking/ listen to this.. it made my fucking day.. lol just absolute gold

edit: Adam did you see the bit on cp24 bit the atm and coinkite, well I guess you need to be in Toronto for that. Perhaps thats why we have a mid day rally on cavirtex lol



788. Post 4531333 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 15, 2014, 07:25:26 PM
this just in 400BTC wall at virtex is being eaten!

this is a really big wall for virtex...

wall down! wall down!

GO GO GO!

 Cheesy

edit: actually the wall was half eaten and then moved to 920$

yessir was about to point that edit out..

http://rare.us/story/overstock-com-ceo-attacks-krugman-hopefully-bitcoin-will-destroy-central-banking/ listen to this.. it made my fucking day.. lol just absolute gold

edit: Adam did you see the bit on cp24 bit the atm and coinkite, well I guess you need to be in Toronto for that. Perhaps thats why we have a mid day rally on cavirtex lol


no i didn't see that

http://rare.us/story/overstock-com-ceo-attacks-krugman-hopefully-bitcoin-will-destroy-central-banking/

good video.

virtex is seriously melting up

http://blog.coinkite.com/post/73407192238/bitcoin-atm-and-coinkite-on-citynews

melt up up up and to mars. lol



789. Post 4543367 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: mellowyellow on January 16, 2014, 11:22:57 AM
Some China news we haven't heard yet? Houbi moving.

gox making guess dumps lol



790. Post 4543610 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Chancellor on January 16, 2014, 11:35:21 AM
Some China news we haven't heard yet? Houbi moving.
Seems that after dancing around 840 (stamp) a direction has been choosen, and the direction is down. Sold half of my BTC around 840, will see what is happening then...

I quoted that didn't say it.. but uh... I don't think a direction has been chosen yet.



791. Post 4543735 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

we've tested the 870-890 support on gox 4days apart for a while now... which has lead into a slow Friday with early Saturday buys.



792. Post 4543799 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: pietje on January 16, 2014, 11:56:38 AM
we've tested the 870-890 support on gox 4days apart for a while now... which has lead into a slow Friday with early Saturday buys.

Time for the weekend rally  Grin

could be a crash..the market can change whenever it wants.. I just imagine it as a shore line..all it takes is a good storm to change all the calm we've seen.



793. Post 4544481 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Chancellor on January 16, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
Seems that after dancing around 840 (stamp) a direction has been choosen, and the direction is down. Sold half of my BTC around 840, will see what is happening then...
Down with $8..
Blink once with your eyes and it could be back there.
Blinked twice. Now it is down by $17...  Wink

wonder if they're doing what we did at our big holiday..take btc out to spend especially those who made money Cheesy



794. Post 4544562 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: RicePicker on January 16, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
Funny how many around here have been saying that China is already out of the picture and have been priced into the market. Yet when china dips every exchange anticipates it and follows along blindly with them. When the 31th comes its gonna be a shit show.  

sure it will, what it will do is give me chance at cheap coins if anything happens.



795. Post 4544662 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: MikeH on January 16, 2014, 01:05:14 PM
if anyone wants this to be the bottom, just send me btc and I'll sell.


to be honest we should test 880 or 4600 cny to see if this a manip dump trying to catch people playing with the fibs lol



796. Post 4544856 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: MikeH on January 16, 2014, 01:05:14 PM
if anyone wants this to be the bottom, just send me btc and I'll sell.


seems like you nailed the bottom for now lol



797. Post 4551427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: prof7bit on January 16, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
Here is an obscenely bullish desktop wallpaper (for usage as pr0n substitute), concentrating at this multiple times a day for 2 minutes each time will release endorphins and convert every bear into a bull after long enough exposure. I have made it 1024*768 for old laptops, I can make higher resolutions too.  Grin


done... now I don't think I'll ever stop staring at my computer



798. Post 4551770 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

showing me 1k dump  on 5-15m chart on stamp.. but only 500 coins soild on 1 min chart on.. much confuse.. oh well lez go to 870-880 triple bot gox and away

edit: 440 on gox were sold as well. volume for those missing volume



799. Post 4552837 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

edit: lol read it and it smelt to much of fud.. involved coinye delisting on eBay lol

oh well. one more day till we see if weekend rallies resume



800. Post 4554514 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: deadfi$h on January 16, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Looks like Huobi has finally woken up and decided to sell.

nope



801. Post 4555155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: deadfi$h on January 16, 2014, 11:59:17 PM
Looks like Huobi has finally woken up and decided to sell.

nope


I see some red streaks testing the edge of that symmetrical triangle over there. You're seeing something different?

it hasn't dropped deeper than it has currently this morning I'm confused as to why now it matters?



802. Post 4555466 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

gox 600 coin dump.. let see.. triple bottom here we come Cheesy

stamp had a buyer hmm.. counter market action lil switchy uppy

support drying up at 900 so fast lol



803. Post 4555562 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 17, 2014, 12:27:04 AM
Confirmed bad news = confirmed triangle breakdown.

too bad there is no bad news.. FBI private auctioning the bitcoin is a good thing.. we don't have to worry about them having a horde in the future Cheesy



804. Post 4555631 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 17, 2014, 12:31:51 AM
Confirmed bad news = confirmed triangle breakdown.

too bad there is no bad news.. FBI private auctioning the bitcoin is a good thing.. we don't have to worry about them having a horde in the future Cheesy
Don't they still have the much bigger wallet? Ulbricht filed a claim for those coins....
Yes, they are only selling near 30k this time around. Good news for uncertainty.
what uncertainty? the FBI has buyers chomping at the bit for this.. lol they don't even have to shop the asset..

nice bite out of a wall at btc-e 500coin at 805



805. Post 4555643 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 17, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
Confirmed bad news = confirmed triangle breakdown.

too bad there is no bad news.. FBI private auctioning the bitcoin is a good thing.. we don't have to worry about them having a horde in the future Cheesy

well it all depends if they end up selling to an investor or a trader.

if we confirm a trader.. lets pre dump Cheesy fuck that guy lol

confirm a hodler, CCMF

can you tell what I am



806. Post 4555680 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 17, 2014, 12:34:00 AM
You have to understand that facts don't matter.

yeah, facts brought us great things like the fed.



807. Post 4555710 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: jir0n on January 17, 2014, 12:34:55 AM
800 (at btc-e) very soon

looks like you caused it to reverse... perhaps I re start it with 1000 on btc-e 2 days

@virtualfaqs ..but we don't know if its tarder or hodler ? how can we dump or ccmf without that FUD



808. Post 4555737 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: damiano on January 17, 2014, 12:38:55 AM
testing 900 gox

dunno the support doubled.. perhaps someone wants to help it bounce but like what...a cat .. or flubber?



809. Post 4555759 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on January 17, 2014, 12:40:52 AM
Would anyone be surprised by a whale driving down the price on exchanges to make an offer to FBI more appealing?

my god.. a sensible comment.. I had to randomly un-ignore to find this gem at random as well.



810. Post 4557639 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: seriouscoin on January 17, 2014, 03:35:49 AM
...It's going down, I'm yelling timberrrrrr.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W55f3l61AHY

This is the only reason I like the song..it signifies cheap coins... lol but what do I care I'm full btc right now



811. Post 4557706 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

or a double bottom for the last 3days

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1venja/want_to_buy_silk_road_seized_coins/

whose in for an after auction party



812. Post 4557973 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: RandyMagnum on January 17, 2014, 04:13:45 AM
Well, I'm officially tired of trying to draw support lines this week.

why we barely crossed the 2 that exist.. I just wish we'd go to 870 again already...

side note or back track...the wall at 900 is just being pulled when it has a chance to be bitten..



813. Post 4558066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on January 17, 2014, 04:21:43 AM
So who here wants the Mtgox 900 wall to be chewed up and who wants it to stay?  Cheesy

I say Chew it up!  Grin

it was at 1000 coins earlier. like when it was trading at 915-930.. as soon as we went under 910 it lost most of its support.. it is asking for munching tho

and there is some munching



814. Post 4558239 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

stamp and btc-e are like but we like 8xx Plz lets just chill here fuck faces



815. Post 4558253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: versace on January 17, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
so um......

hodl?HuhHuhHuhHuh HELP

i'd say hodl.. exit points were back in the 900s ..unless you have low percentage exchanges then you probably should sold at 840 stamp.. : D here we gooo saw 800 flicker on btc-e



816. Post 4558314 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

0.01 buy/sell in tandem lol trippy



817. Post 4558410 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: versace on January 17, 2014, 04:48:16 AM
so um......

hodl?HuhHuhHuhHuh HELP

Reading this reply i'd say stay away from trading. It won't end pretty.

nahi always hold

also interesting stuff on stamp right now
802 stay strong

not enough bears sacrificing.. whats the dealio.. we out of coins to sell already........bah gox and stamp aren't even playing with Huobi atm



818. Post 4558504 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 17, 2014, 04:59:32 AM
not enough bears sacrificing.. whats the dealio.. we out of coins to sell already........bah gox and stamp aren't even playing with Huobi atm
I'm not necessarily expecting a steep drop from here. If we bounce off of prior support and back down, then a slow slide may be cooking.

well we could drop..cause the fake 1000 coin support is back for 900usd btc on gox.. dunno what this bodes for at the moment..

its gone as soon as we pass 911 or something 910.. instantly down to 400 coin support a 900usd



819. Post 4561942 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

wake up from my sleep. to some new action



820. Post 4562314 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: oda.krell on January 17, 2014, 11:41:47 AM
Interesting. I'm not holding my breath anymore, this latest consolidation period  has shown quite a bit of resistance both on the way up and on the way down, but at least we've 6h closed now (across 2 exchanges, nonetheless) below what I think of as a relevant trend. Mtgox not playing along though... we'll see, I guess. If mtgox closes below ~890, and bitstamp below 800, I'd say we'll finally see a breakout (downwards). If not... back to the guessing game Cheesy

I don't know whether to take this as confidence in current price level or not. My sentiment is that China has oddly added some stability with their last release restatement of their stance...guess we can just wait to see how this .. plays out towards the end of the month




821. Post 4563091 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: MickeyT2008 on January 17, 2014, 12:48:44 PM
Price stopped moving, looks like game over.


Insert more coins to continue playing.



Lot's of fiat waiting on the sidelines!  Cheesy
Such famous bastions of engineering, or is it bastards of engineering?

much scrap, very steel (frame maybe lol)



822. Post 4566072 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: chodpaba on January 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
DPR is idiot for letting them to ever find his coins.

He was an idiot even starting SR. His life is now essentially over.

Hardly.  He is a hero to every freedom loving person on the planet.  It is certain that his work will go on.  I'm also certain that he would rather die a lion that live as a cur.

Oh please, turn it down.
He done SR for his own financial gain. No other reason. If you believe otherwise you are exteremly gullible.

Nah, all he has to do is to convince the feds he's a banker.

this deserves a medal of honor



823. Post 4566126 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: fr33d0miz3r on January 17, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
This looks like pretty weak "crash"  Shocked

Until now it's no crash. It's more fighting.

It's a downtrend. Not crash nor fighting.

how long will it stay in the downtrend before it continues to ccmf, while whales swim in pools of silkroad coins



824. Post 4566248 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: fonzie on January 17, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
This looks like pretty weak "crash"  Shocked

Until now it's no crash. It's more fighting.

It's a downtrend. Not crash nor fighting.

how long will it stay in the downtrend before it continues to ccmf, while whales swim in pools of silkroad coins

Consider that we might never see 4 digits again. Think about it!  Sad

I have, probably why I could barely sell a coin or 2 while we crashed to 400.. in fact I sold at 8xx and rebought at 7xx cause I was so skiddish lol



825. Post 4566396 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: spooderman on January 17, 2014, 04:41:28 PM
Anyone else watching Obama? Anyone else want to pull out their own eyeballs?

thanks to you now I am too.



826. Post 4566453 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: wobber on January 17, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
Anyone else watching Obama? Anyone else want to pull out their own eyeballs?

thanks to you now I am too.

What's about?

NSA...how the program is going to be re structured and launched



827. Post 4566560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

edge so close to the make or break moments on goxy



828. Post 4568012 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

let say 850 low for the day on gox, with a super bounce off it D: ttyl



829. Post 4573930 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on January 17, 2014, 06:26:42 PM
let say 850 low for the day on gox, with a super bounce off it D: ttyl

damm we didn't even make 850 did we... oh well bounce harder than this please



830. Post 4575977 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

why so silent



831. Post 4576345 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.56h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 18, 2014, 05:26:59 AM
why so silent


The bears have nothing to say.  They are going back to hibernation.

Yes... until the next FUD...  Grin
Volatility is usually what brings people out. Right now, we have little.  Smiley

One had to expect a bounce at some point after dropping 10% in a couple days.... right?

for the most part this seems liike a real test of what the market feels about 850 or higher on gox and 750 on stamp. week long consolidation random buyers on the weekend or no?



832. Post 4590590 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

whose heating it up on btc-e pow pow



833. Post 4599461 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Logic Dictates following all this doge talk.. CCMF lets go huobi break 5000 and make me proud



834. Post 4601361 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: [Default Trust] is Tyrannically Centralized! (goat) on January 19, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
yay weekend rally back on

Not that i really care but where did the dips go?

what are these dips you speak of? like dip n' dot ice creams lol



835. Post 4603560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: gizmoh on January 19, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
Much Pump, Such Dump, China Wow

entering the much pump phase again Cheesy



836. Post 4603670 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on January 19, 2014, 05:54:19 PM
It's not just a question of "pump" my friends. This 10-day consolidation was going to break up. It was just a matter of when.

im trolling.. I'm also a perma bull no lie Cheesy a hodl platinum card has been issued to me as well



837. Post 4603743 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on January 19, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
It's not just a question of "pump" my friends. This 10-day consolidation was going to break up. It was just a matter of when.

im trolling.. I'm also a perma bull no lie Cheesy a hodl platinum card has been issued to me as well

It's fun trolling but in all seriousness, I've been saying this for two and a half weeks already.

I just let it all play out, too much adoption coming up in the next month not to at least as a bear to start to claim a bubble is forming  Lips sealed



838. Post 4612392 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

went drinking and were at 970 on gox.. woo fucking hoo.. go to 1000 and ill drink some more..

however sadly everyone at the bar requires bitcoin to be backed by a government.. I kept saying why is it you trust the government so much to make your currency worth something. no answer.



839. Post 4612791 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: byronbb on January 20, 2014, 03:58:48 AM
went drinking and were at 970 on gox.. woo fucking hoo.. go to 1000 and ill drink some more..

however sadly everyone at the bar requires bitcoin to be backed by a government.. I kept saying why is it you trust the government so much to make your currency worth something. no answer.

Did they look like this?




its hard to tell someone that they're a sheep....... but I could've made so many wool coats.



840. Post 4621428 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

imo 4k wall of coins up to 1k, high volume on the price rise.. but low on the retrace.. think somebody fears and early ccmf



841. Post 4631388 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

nice 184 coin buy.. breaking my magical resistance lines.. hopefully this can blow up...the shorts are definitely hurting right now



842. Post 4653934 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 21, 2014, 11:55:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0

that should stop some of the FUD....

He looks kinda scared, is there a gun pointed at him while he´s reading his text from a teleprompter.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

noooo.....

i    dont   think sooo.....  Huh Huh Huh Huh   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

omg get the fuck off gox now!!!!!!!!!!!! GO GO GO!


*hides in apartment sized closet in obama's bunker*

ftfy ..my guess. I'll be in Harper's man cave



843. Post 4668854 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: humanitee on January 22, 2014, 05:30:16 PM

I'm sad this is the truth. I thought it spawned here when someone posted how the bid wall was almost always shallow and thin on furious uptrends, looking much like a train running through the ask wall. :[

good ol' skepticism, which is what I think will leave the bears holding shorts...not saying news will be driving the next spike but I am saying adoption by major businesses means people see it as less of a ponzi scheme or virtual money, and start to get it is just a better protocol for money transfer, storage, and so many more things that have yet to be full realized. This is why I remain a perma bear-hodlor. If 2014 is the year we can develop a system to better lock in prices on remittance exchanges between people and their families that market could finally replace western union.



844. Post 4669097 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

your the clown telling people to short bitcoin Cheesy cool story



845. Post 4669301 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.57h):

Quote from: MatTheCat on January 22, 2014, 06:10:48 PM
your the clown telling people to short bitcoin Cheesy cool story

Boo Hoo Hoo.

I am already $500 up from $835 short position. What a clown I am. Please save me from myself before my pockets are that filled up with bulltard geld that I can barely move.

my point exactly.. your doing the same thing you're complaining about from the bulls...making a self fulfilling prophecy.

You could remain out of that by just saying thanks to my TA and my analysis of the buying and selling pressures from bots I think we're going to experience a movement downward or what not...but no.. you gotta insinuate there is money to be made from following your strategy and shorting.. someone will lose.

However hodlers can at least bank on the past when they tell people to buy and wait a year.. I don't think anyone would've have won a year long short with bitcoin yet.



846. Post 4670566 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: capsqrl on January 22, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
Google Wallet is "working to figure out how to incorporate bitcoin into our plans". http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vvfxz/google_confirms_their_payments_team_is_working_to/

You can go up now, price.

according to my random lines on a chart. 975 gox feb 1st Cheesy



847. Post 4672595 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vvfxz/google_confirms_their_payments_team_is_working_to/

update looks promising... and google turns everything in to goldddd



848. Post 4692225 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

never seen so much consolidation in bitcoin, a month worth nearly. I think China has created an artificial new start line that will probably be broken Jan 31 st due to everyone intense belief they can topple the value of bitcoin when they sell their coins.

I've never looked forward to Feb. so much as I have today



849. Post 4692414 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 23, 2014, 07:56:53 PM
Just give me one little downward move. Had been waiting days for that retest of 800. If we can revisit 780-790 just one more time.... Smiley

We´re probably about to get the 5th red daily candle on Stamp in a few hours, that´s bullish isn´t it?
Yep.  Smiley

but they are so small (red candles).. they don't even add up to a candle of 2 medium volume drop days.. this is just laggard fear of China saying no again...which is really like a kid saying no to going to bed when he's sleepy.



850. Post 4692476 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: DaRude on January 23, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
We´re probably about to get the 5th red daily candle on Stamp in a few hours, that´s bullish isn´t it?
Aren't we still just working on the 4th red candle? At least according to wisdom

suppose it depends where you live in the world its Thursday 23 @ 3:04pm here. However even if goes 5 deep it just means the slowest slide to 800 we ever saw.

edit: Proudhon is prime of example of why we need better mental healthcare globally



851. Post 4693228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: MAbtc on January 23, 2014, 08:08:51 PM
Just give me one little downward move. Had been waiting days for that retest of 800. If we can revisit 780-790 just one more time.... Smiley

We´re probably about to get the 5th red daily candle on Stamp in a few hours, that´s bullish isn´t it?
Yep.  Smiley

but they are so small (red candles).. they don't even add up to a candle of 2 medium volume drop days.. this is just laggard fear of China saying no again...which is really like a kid saying no to going to bed when he's sleepy.
It's just a bullish consolidation, I think. I wasn't being sarcastic.

yeah I was agreeing with you not so much fonzie's sarcasm



852. Post 4693397 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vxvex/great_news_from_btc_china/ repeat bull fud aleart bull fud



853. Post 4699679 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

more likely to visit lows of 750.. I mean shiittt panic occurs randomly and so.. we are at the mercy of market. But we'll see how many buy orders people have set from 750-780 probably eat off the selling pressure.



854. Post 4702432 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: threecats on January 24, 2014, 07:32:56 AM
seeing a bid of 768 for 174 coins on bitfinex that is not getting touched  for 8 minutes while stamp was in the mid fifties, what gives?

err only btc-e enter the 75x range



855. Post 4713612 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on January 24, 2014, 06:23:45 PM
Not yet it wont. The people with deep pockets want to stock the water more before they do that... They're stabilizing the price to keep it an attractive market for new adoption.

By the time a major grab like that happens BTC will be well over $10,000 each and will be very mainstream.

They know that this market is filled with emotional noob traders that will hand over their coins easily on 'false flag sell-offs'. Why pay 800 for btc, when you can get them for 200-500 from scared noobs.

Why stop at 200 if you can get them at 10 cents each! Let's completely make Bitcoin worthless so you can buy cheap coins!

not everyone who says cheap coins is trying to crash it though...there just saying cheap coins incoming. IMO coins are going to be cheap...relative to the next year for quite a while. However were in the speculation forum...the internet pretty much allows free speech...and even in this thread (free of everything but Adam's wrath)..you gotta use the ignore button liberally as I have found out myself.

I use to think I'd miss something witty or worth while reading.. and I've really begun to think the trolls just have mental issues.




856. Post 4713786 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 24, 2014, 06:35:57 PM
Why stop at 200 if you can get them at 10 cents each! Let's completely make Bitcoin worthless so you can buy cheap coins!

Yeah, just like when Gavin visited the CIA. Immediately you saw cheap coins for the CIA.

Next time there will be cheap coins for the Council on Foreign Relations/Bilderberg Group. Grin

quickly everyone sell coins so Bilderberg and I can buy on the cheap!

no coins for you ADAM, pay market price or beware.. I'll buy up all the coins on Cavirtex after finding some sort of angel funding from Toronto so I can save the city from Ford.



857. Post 4714133 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 24, 2014, 06:53:55 PM


Bitstamp is climbing or latching on.. I'd like them to hit 800 before huobi



858. Post 4715074 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 24, 2014, 07:04:36 PM
no market price can save the city from Ford.

Too late. The only way to save Toronto is for the actual city to secede from the suburban abomination known as megacity, inflicted on us by that scumbag Mike Harris.

The map of the 2010 election results is like the red/blue-state map of the last Bush win. The city voted Smitherman, the burbs voted for the crackhead buffoon.

you just re affirmed others like me exist in the GTA.. Mike Harris fucked up large.. also a large reason we don't have subways. But do check the earlier bolded parts of my statement and see I do agree with you.



859. Post 4718338 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: Dalmar on January 24, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
BTC-E pumping altcoins or what is goind on there?

They are useless and people start to realize it?

not seeing any crazy difference in alt prices since last night but I am not really checking to hard. FTC NMC PPC

Either way Bitcoin is here to stay and is revolutionizing the way people think about their own money and money in general.. whether it makes us all rich or not it is bitch slapping people who just accepted the monetary system governments have been imposing on us for however long right in the face. Most are waking up some are stuck in the mud thinking the government will protect them when the bankers coming knocking or. just wrecking ball the markets lol



860. Post 4720765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: hdbuck on January 25, 2014, 01:21:34 AM
It's snowing here in southern Louisiana! It's always hotter than hell here. Expect single digits soon!

the world is ending BUY SELL BITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!

FTFY  Smiley

but the green candle has begun on bitstamp.. its buying time



861. Post 4724470 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: stylin on January 25, 2014, 07:22:47 AM
Wow, somebody sold a few billion dollars woth of Stocks today. What do you think they'll going to do with alllll those profits? let 'em sit in depreciating fiat? Hey, didn't that bitcoin center just open up on Wall Street?

Do you think we are still in a bull stock market?

do you mr first post

IMO: stock market is propped up on shit that can crumble any moment..



862. Post 4739200 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: aminorex on January 25, 2014, 10:43:20 PM

Bitcoin will surprise in both directions, to great magnitude.

we've come to expect the unexpected.

I've come to expect one thing.. rallies. Since I started watching the price back in 2011 ..how I still rue the day I didn't buy a 2500 dollars mining/ gaming rig.. I should be driving a lambo with a nice bitcoin moniker to fucking spread the word.



863. Post 4740359 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

stamp decides to follow huobi down just after huobi starts moving back up lol



864. Post 4750336 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: mmitech on January 26, 2014, 01:29:31 PM
and 1800 BTC was bought in a market order, just wow, it was fun watching him eating all the walls  Cheesy


you look away for a couple seconds and a choo choo occurs on only one exchange.. but it might spark the panic buys soon.. lol biggest spread ever lool



865. Post 4751863 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

just another weekend rally lol]

gox is just going bat shit



866. Post 4751956 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: Rannasha on January 26, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
Another 500 btc buy on Gox.

bitstamp responded



867. Post 4760309 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: tolega on January 26, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
Just as expected, the market is crashing just as we get more confirmed bad news out of China.

This article is silly.  Really it is.

better it's shit.

If I was Chinese, I'd get as much money to the exchanges as I possibly could while there's still time. After the door shuts, bitcoin will be much harder to get, which will drive the price up.

I think FUD is a Chinese word for "opportunity".

If you were Chinese or not Chinese you could follow updates and know nothing will actually happen on the 31st. But what the heck, keep the BS flowing

people trying to spread dis information to get cheap coins.. I personally have grown quite confident that were not full of chicken shits trying to flip a quick buck. However I can't deny that the 31st deadline will probably be the bears waking up on stamp.



868. Post 4784919 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

so why are people selling, this arrest finally proves that cash remains king when doing illegal business. ergo bitcoin is by far ( atm ) not the way to go when trying to commit illegal activities.

the hypocrisy of this arrest is huge.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/hsbc-s-1-9b-money-laundering-settlement-approved-by-judge-1.1377272 lol why didn't they go an arrest these fucks.


HSBC was found to have laundered over $670 billion over the course of four years, and this makes BitInstant's total amount pale in comparison. HSBC was eventually fined $1.9 billion in an arranged agreement, which equates to 3/100% of the total amount laundered through their institution. -http://www.examiner.com/article/bitcoin-exchange-joins-hsbc-money-laundering-for-drug-sales



...I'm fine with you going after money laundering, etc but apply the rules the same way.



869. Post 4785191 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: wobber on January 27, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
The news and forums have not convinced to to stop hodling.

This is the begin of a down trend. 600$ in 6hours.

Do you know that forecasters, in ancient world, we're entitled to choose their death method if the forecast didn't came true?

a page or 2 back.. there is a 7-8 straight comments from my ignore list. It time of FUD it really makes me happy having them all ignored. If I wanted to hear a Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh styled argument I'd un-ignore them.



870. Post 4785477 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: phantastisch on January 27, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/01/27/bitcoin-dealers-charged-with-money-laundering/4941313/
Not trying to be a troll or fudster, but come on any one who can see a huge panic coming is in denial. USA today is already posting negitive articles in less than a few hours of story breaking. It took them two years to post something positive. Media will blow this out the water. People will panic. Especially Chinese as thing are easily skewed in translating to Chinese.

You must be new here... Read up on silk road.

another for the ignore list...

HSBC style > HSBC was found to have laundered over $670 billion over the course of four years, and this makes BitInstant's total amount pale in comparison. HSBC was eventually fined $1.9 billion in an arranged agreement, which equates to 3/100% of the total amount laundered through their institution. -http://www.examiner.com/article/bitcoin-exchange-joins-hsbc-money-laundering-for-drug-sales



871. Post 4787454 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on January 27, 2014, 11:41:59 PM
Andreas Antonopoulos is going to be live on Joe Rogan Experience in 20 minutes. 3pm pacific

http://www.ustream.tv/joerogan

Thanks

+2 and my facebook feed will enjoy as well.

I am lol'n at the panic....dead cat bounce incoming from the bear field, bull field to the moon. My self we consolidate for another week, Mt.Gox spread should not shrink as it should be based on liquidity issues.

I'd be happy if we finished at 800 on stamp by Friday.. cause at this point it would be a 1000 gox wise.



872. Post 4787688 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 28, 2014, 12:02:06 AM
i expect a very tight V shaped recovery, this drop is off pure FUD IMHO

We should have been making millions arbing with bitstamp lol while cavirtex was closely tied to gox prices lol...well I should say I should have possible that you already did so.

I really got to get verified at bitstamp, the arbing should be fairly easy as both exchanges are easy for in/out of money.



873. Post 4787721 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: seleme on January 28, 2014, 12:06:40 AM
huge sell wall @750 #btce

52 BTC huge wall?

Guys, do you see how far we had come?  Grin

from pizza sized walls, to measly pepperoni sized walls



874. Post 4788057 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on January 28, 2014, 12:08:48 AM
i expect a very tight V shaped recovery, this drop is off pure FUD IMHO

We should have been making millions arbing with bitstamp lol while cavirtex was closely tied to gox prices lol...well I should say I should have possible that you already did so.

I really got to get verified at bitstamp, the arbing should be fairly easy as both exchanges are easy for in/out of money.

I'm not setup to do arbitrage.

my guess is very few are and thats why virtex prices lags behind all the time.

yeah, I keep saying I should. I see the true value in not being lazy. I just gotta be verified and have a euro account to wire to stamp. And it would be buy on stamp and sell on cavirtex atm.. lol we'd make less 3% and exchange rate differentials at this exact moment 750 stamp and 827cad were working with $77 of profit per buy/sell.  

you can see we're clearly non greedy Canadian's. Harper is going to read this and make Canada debt - free in 2 years lol I kid I kid.



875. Post 4790703 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: fonzie on January 28, 2014, 12:49:35 AM


I'm waiting for the bull to say "we're still in stealth phase".

You might not be aware of this, but at least 50% of the bulls in here exactly think this. Everybody at least thinks that we´re goin to 2-3000$ in 4-6 weeks.
Also 100000-1 Mio. in under a year seems to be a no brainer. New paradigm will be reached, according to BillieJeanAllen, when we hit 80000000$

I dunno pretty sure were in the first bear trap.



876. Post 4791445 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

gox has some more movement. 190 (edit: + another 310 or so I think to lazy to recount) coins sold. are we going back to being only 50-75$ apart Cheesy lol

edit 2: 247 sold on stamp following that movement. I suppose tis possible stamp wants to be $200 away from gox lol



877. Post 4791595 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: medialab101 on January 28, 2014, 05:52:38 AM
Big dump on Huobi too...

seeing that as we speak shiza.. 1min charts with 700s lol makes me really wonder about the 0% fees lol



878. Post 4792309 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: TERA on January 28, 2014, 06:52:28 AM
On the other hand, the volume on btce and bitstamp is actually relatively high for this month, so we might see another nice little choo choo bulltrap to $800 or so.

Unless the people who are buying are long-term hodlers, in which case it's a bear trap.
Even if those people hodl, additional new coins can enter the market or get unhodled by different people.

I think a large portion of the new joiners are becoming hodlers. Why not, the others in the past have experienced good returns for patience. Not everyone is a day trader or should even think about trying it so buy and hold is the simplest strategy for a total newbie. Or buy bitcoin to spend online and each time buy an extra %5-15 btc based of the purchases price in fiat as a mean to hedge against its deflationary aspect.

I think those sitting on large amounts from early days are hedging now, perhaps btc > gold or btc > fiat > gold, whatever satisfies said investor. Most people don't look at the actual price rises now being smaller then what occurred during $.30 -> $32 or $12 to $266.

People who bought and held from those periods are still able to sell and hedge their bets... and smart people don't keep all their eggs in one basket, so in turn the rise in value of a bitcoin forces them to hedge the position appropriately, not saying that you can't go full bitcoin with your wealth...there are people who'd bet it all on red for the chance to double up, but we have to expect some selling pressure during any steep rise to offset hedging etc.





879. Post 4792654 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 28, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
On the other hand, the volume on btce and bitstamp is actually relatively high for this month, so we might see another nice little choo choo bulltrap to $800 or so.

Unless the people who are buying are long-term hodlers, in which case it's a bear trap.
Even if those people hodl, additional new coins can enter the market or get unhodled by different people.

I think a large portion of the new joiners are becoming hodlers. Why not, the others in the past have experienced good returns for patience. Not everyone is a day trader or should even think about trying it so buy and hold is the simplest strategy for a total newbie. Or buy bitcoin to spend online and each time buy an extra %5-15 btc based of the purchases price in fiat as a mean to hedge against its deflationary aspect.

I think those sitting on large amounts from early days are hedging now, perhaps btc > gold or btc > fiat > gold, whatever satisfies said investor. Most people don't look at the actual price rises now being smaller then what occurred during $.30 -> $32 or $12 to $266.

People who bought and held from those periods are still able to sell and hedge their bets... and smart people don't keep all their eggs in one basket, so in turn the rise in value of a bitcoin forces them to hedge the position appropriately, not saying that you can't go full bitcoin with your wealth...there are people who'd bet it all on red for the chance to double up, but we have to expect some selling pressure during any steep rise to offset hedging etc.


Obviously you are right, but most people are by nature herd animals who bet the trend. It's the interplay between the smart money and the lemmings that give us market swings. And in this market, the smart money guys take there profits in Bitcoin, not fiat.

I still think a large portion of people are hedging 25%-50% out of btc when they see a rise of 10x or greater of their buy in price, not everyone but I'd lean to a majority as in 50.01%.

If I were to have acquired a large enough amount of bitcoin earlier I'd reinvest a fair bit of those gains into properties and reinvest the profits of those properties into bitcoin. Not to mention I will get this opportunity most likely by June of this year.

 there aren't many lemmings in bitcoin yet comparatively, I know lemmings they still think this is a big ponzi.



880. Post 4793249 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: surfer43 on January 28, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
From the lifeonbitcoin.com blog:

Does anyone really USE bitcoin?
It’s like asking “Does anybody use the World Wide Web?” in 1993.    
That is a great analogy. I hear

"What can you actually buy with bitcoin? The grocery store doesn't accept it???!!! Why would anyone use that?!"

a lot.

another example of lemmings. by the time were buying apples at major super market chain stores it will be accepted nationally if not globally lol



881. Post 4793684 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 28, 2014, 08:58:22 AM

Obviously you are right, but most people are by nature herd animals who bet the trend. It's the interplay between the smart money and the lemmings that give us market swings. And in this market, the smart money guys take there profits in Bitcoin, not fiat.

I still think a large portion of people are hedging 25%-50% out of btc when they see a rise of 10x or greater of their buy in price, not everyone but I'd lean to a majority as in 50.01%.

If I were to have acquired a large enough amount of bitcoin earlier I'd reinvest a fair bit of those gains into properties and reinvest the profits of those properties into bitcoin. Not to mention I will get this opportunity most likely by June of this year.

 there aren't many lemmings in bitcoin yet comparatively, I know lemmings they still think this is a big ponzi.

That's way too big a hedge, IMHO. A hedge is a bet you hope you lose, like life insurance. I hedge 10% the same way stock investors typically hedge 5-10% in precious metals.
this market has had three rallies of more than 10X, but the proportional increase is going down for each successive rally.

I guess in reality it depends how well diversified one person is to begin with, and how they accumulated bitcoin. As someone young with few assets, but no debts I do look at it as benefit to owning btc and being almost all in, however if they went up 10x in value, from my avg or median buy in price I would probably sell 10-25% to begin to diversify.




882. Post 4803916 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: Vigil on January 28, 2014, 07:54:30 PM
Highlander was just quoted.

that killed me and the dude whose now sipping coffee, tea, or a latte was eating a salad quick lunch.



883. Post 4804118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on January 28, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
someone needs to tell these people what a 51% attack actually is

Charlie just schooled em, If the U.S is worried join the miners and protect the system WOOO



884. Post 4805118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: threecats on January 28, 2014, 08:52:53 PM
Why can't we put somebody like Andreas M. Antonopoulos into that hearing? The comments and opinions of these people are not so well elaborate, as far what I heared.

+1

The women didn't even seem to have heard about coloured coins...

yea, that was pretty amazing. so much for reading up before the hearing.

sorta depressing the way the chairman blew off the cancer cure thing charles was taling about, like he was not capable of digesting that idea  ....

no I think he was more astounded by the claim more then anything. Proving the average person has no clue about the reaching power of this protocol



885. Post 4807084 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: Vigil on January 28, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
Its generally true. Its why women flip their moods so often and are never satisfied. Its why they say "you can never win an argument with a women" - because she is never arguing logic and facts.

Oh come on, kind of generalising here, methinks - please don't scare whatever females might still be bothering to check in here away...?
Hence, the use of the phrase "Its generally true". For most women in most situations this is true, but in professional situations women are generally able to pull it together.

lol and all men are dicks, and ignorant to their arrogance...your reiteration of said statements sadly makes me believe Women are equally correct in assuming that...all in all every person I have ever communicated and interacted with dealt with things differently, there we're similarities, but very rarely did they coincide with sex. Either way my shit anecdotal at best. Just think your short sighted trying to categorize most women to fit that terrible stereotype.



886. Post 4807976 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: aminorex on January 28, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
Bank run = Buying BTC on Mtgox. As of yesterday, Mtgox had a 200 gap on other exchanges. Then it's dropped to 160 now. Why the sudden confidence in Mtgox if nothing's changed?

I'd get tired of paying $200 over market for btc pretty quickly.  I imagine whoever was taking the blockchain offramp either finished or got weary of having their pocket picked.

I am going to live in a world where it's like a countdown as gox and stamp come to a new origin point in which we set off for mercury from the moon.



887. Post 4808096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: oda.krell on January 28, 2014, 11:30:01 PM
BitcointalkWhere nerds believe that upholding politically correct male-female quality jargon and their bitcoin riches will one day get them laid.

15 years later....

BitcointalkWhere nerds who lost their bitcoin fortunes to their divorce settlement with their lusting ex-wives hang out and reminisce on the 'good ole days'.

What a bitter lonely little man you must be. Don't act all surprised, when all you do is fuck barflies, if it turns out they're not exactly Rosalind Franklin level intelligence wise.

It's kind of sad when you think about it... you had all the chances in the world to date women in your IQ range when you were at university.

Thinking about it some more, you probably didn't.
+1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6vwNcNOTVzY#t=121
I think the bitcoiners would be smart enough to pre nump their coins lol



888. Post 4808496 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

If one good things occurs over the next 3 days I hope its fee on huobi lol.

however I do like watching the crazy fireworks at times



889. Post 4810000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 29, 2014, 01:33:09 AM

There are people who can get fiat out of Gox - Japanese. But it's not consistent enough to do any major arbitrage unless yesterday was what was happening.

really? Name one. One fucking person who has had a successful fiat withdrawal this year. Cuz that bastard's got my money.
Here are some, but even JPY is way backed up (which is not normal):
 
I am a Japan resident. Posted a withdrawal on the 5th of January, was in my account 9 business days later.

You can find me in the epic bitching thread saying as much.
Requested 1/7 withdraw processed today 1/28.   Waiting on a 1/10.

Thank you. That's informative. Perhaps it's the Japanese government who is facilitating this theft for the benefit of its citizens. If so, they are killing a golden goose.
maybe their capital controls are different then other countries



890. Post 4813344 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.00h):

Quote from: dgarcia on January 29, 2014, 07:42:42 AM
Where's da bears? Thought you'd get those cheap coins? Sorry, I got 'em first. Go ahead, short again.

 I drink your milkshake.

Wrong question.

Where da bulls? Where is a small new top? Only a teeny-weeny new top?
835,00$ on stamp?

Or do we call a rebounce from 725 to 810 now freakin' bullish? Outraged bullish?



I call it buy support in the 7xx range. However, bull bears will have the epic showdown jan 31st when China says nothing

Kung Hei Fat Choy



891. Post 4834139 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: creekbore on January 30, 2014, 07:03:13 AM
Well, I logged into BTCchina and there certainly is a screen for bank deposits (its still only for Chinese residents I assume)....whether it works or not  Cry

I'm surprised by all the 31st jan talk, since that will be new years day, probably the only day in the year when everything is shut in China.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wipty/btc_china_enabling_direct_deposits/

had a read, I mean you can doctor photo's to say or look as you please. The only think that I think semi legitimizes the possibility is that Huobi has been processing bank transfers. I don't know if this time lag between when each exchange re-offered bank transfers was***bureaucratic run around against btcchina, as the FUD has mentioned the ties between the owner huobi and political parties doubt that is a solid fact.

*** =  which in a way does make sure the central banks process, and therefore charge and make money off of fees on money transfers in respect to deposit or withdraw fiat from exchanges, also a better idea of the movement of money and have a better record of it vs. third party payment processors



892. Post 4834413 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: Jren on January 30, 2014, 07:44:27 AM
Nothing is gonna happen jan 31. Which was the reason everybody is shitting his pants.
My guess for feb 1st is the price will go up to around 1000 then everybody will completely shit their pants and panic sell to 920. Nothing will change.

i would not mind a 220 dollar rise if that's stamp prices Grin

I think that there is a lot of new money that the owners of are just waiting for psychological barriers to be broken. Dec 5-6 set a precedent that they're greed can't resist the chance at cheap coins, however everyday after they somehow believe the cheap coins will never come and probably start a strong choo choo



893. Post 4835394 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: RicePicker on January 30, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
Those of us with substantial holdings will not deplete them by buying stuff at a low exchange rate. We didn't get where we are by buying high and spending low, so price needs to go up gradually and then we'll share with merchants. Overstock bitcoin sales went down because the exchange rate went down. If it goes up, more bitcoiners will buy stuff there and then more merchants will jump on board.
If Overstock sales went down it's because the initial rush of bitcoin buyers has passed.

And anyone with substantial holdings of BTC almost certainly acquired it more than a few months ago (ie when BTC was < $150). In the context of the gains made, the exchange rate has barely moved.

I started buying when it was less than $10/BTC and I still am going to wait. You seem to think it was easy money. It wasn't. Everybody was screaming at us to sell when it jumped to $50, $100, $200, etc.  We held. and we held through the crashes too. Easy money spends easy. Hard money is hard to part with.

I was around the time when bitcoin was $32 and $2. The fact that you continue telling people to hold at $700-$800 compared to when you bought at $10 is ridiculous. I like to think back at when I mined an average of 3 coins with my 5770 in a week and I thought that was slow. I hold a good amount of Bitcoins from when it was $2-$20 and I believe that at these prices bitcoins are way overvalued for what they are capable of currently. Back then I was actually willing to spend my coins to buy things. I still have my DDR2 memory that cost 10BTC and thinking about how much I would have if I held on to them till now. Telling people to invest thousands of dollars in BTC when I was mining these coins when I was 17 makes BTC like such a joke.  

you seem short sighted,



894. Post 4835470 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: RicePicker on January 30, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
Those of us with substantial holdings will not deplete them by buying stuff at a low exchange rate. We didn't get where we are by buying high and spending low, so price needs to go up gradually and then we'll share with merchants. Overstock bitcoin sales went down because the exchange rate went down. If it goes up, more bitcoiners will buy stuff there and then more merchants will jump on board.
If Overstock sales went down it's because the initial rush of bitcoin buyers has passed.

And anyone with substantial holdings of BTC almost certainly acquired it more than a few months ago (ie when BTC was < $150). In the context of the gains made, the exchange rate has barely moved.

I started buying when it was less than $10/BTC and I still am going to wait. You seem to think it was easy money. It wasn't. Everybody was screaming at us to sell when it jumped to $50, $100, $200, etc.  We held. and we held through the crashes too. Easy money spends easy. Hard money is hard to part with.

I was around the time when bitcoin was $32 and $2. The fact that you continue telling people to hold at $700-$800 compared to when you bought at $10 is ridiculous. I like to think back at when I mined an average of 3 coins with my 5770 in a week and I thought that was slow. I hold a good amount of Bitcoins from when it was $2-$20 and I believe that at these prices bitcoins are way overvalued for what they are capable of currently. Back then I was actually willing to spend my coins to buy things. I still have my DDR2 memory that cost 10BTC and thinking about how much I would have if I held on to them till now. Telling people to invest thousands of dollars in BTC when I was mining these coins when I was 17 makes BTC like such a joke.  

you seem short sighted,

Totally short sighted. That is why I have been holding on too these coins for the past 3 years...

so you just.. posted about how the coins are over valued.. and the main idea shared in your paragraph is a sentiment that coins shouldn't be held. contradictory much? expert troll

it is a good joke that you think those with money to invest, and who think bitcoin is going somewhere or might, shouldn't speculate at today's price because you bought in early and we're apart of the earlier phase of a revolutionary protocol/tool's unfolding.



895. Post 4845516 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: magicmexican on January 30, 2014, 08:20:33 PM
Breaking that 790-820 range feels impossible now

hardly.. I keep saying.. it's waiting till Jan 31st ..cause so many people have psychologically ingrained that a crash will happen, they can't risk missing cheap coins.. FFS adam's 50/50, I'm still full hodler, if anything I'd deposit to the exchange but I don't believe anything will happen...it would be the most epic business troll for btcchina to start accepting bank deposits at this time....if China is gonna stamp em two days later.. it simply would be the greatest troll ever.



896. Post 4849604 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

I wonder if the bots are testing the new market maker add on.



897. Post 4851998 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat on January 31, 2014, 05:50:45 AM
Nice little 150 coin bid wall just hit on BTC-e.

(I'm just talking to myself, right?)

Smiley

aren't we all



898. Post 4852575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: OldGeek on January 31, 2014, 06:30:40 AM
Watching the wall actions on gox.  lol

Like a series of earthquakes.

It's just Mark playing with himself (or maybe his bots).

I doubt anyone other than him uses that site anymore.

Very likely.

What's your opinion on the outcome with gox?  Do you think he is smart enough to sell the exchange to someone who would run it right?  Is there someone who would take the job on?

Can we blame him fully, does the time it takes to remedy seized u.s bank accounts have a known time frame by anyone? I admit I was happy to find Canadian based exchanges with good reputation it regards to the ability to withdraw sales in fiat.



899. Post 4853393 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

lil stampy action



900. Post 4870158 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

lol so quiet, are the trolls licking wounds.

I'd expect with the holiday they'd push the crash till atleast a week from now Cheesy ...

however the 31st came and went as expect. Wonder when willy gets wacky again.



901. Post 4870882 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: fotosonics on February 01, 2014, 09:29:06 AM
Oh crap. A slow rally this time. Only to drop down suddenly, I predict, as people dump to cash out what little price climb has been so meticulously achieved over so long.

Sure, I hope I'm wrong, but that's all.

no way a drop happens now without the Chinese leading it, or the government muttering something confusing and negative.



902. Post 4871639 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: TERA on February 01, 2014, 10:48:09 AM
No sane person is gonna throw some money in now because they know this.

Meet one such insane person.  Tongue Just bought a 2-digit amount of bitcoins and removed them from the order book.

I wonder, if everyone reading this thread bought something between 0.5 and 1 BTC and moved it out of the exchange, would that give the price a nudge in the upward direction?
I think most people who chat here buy a 3 digit amount of btc,

tis but a dream of mine now Cheesy, but at least im in rp's top 70k lol

edit thought I had more time in the 140-320 range lol, was too slow then Sad



903. Post 4885162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on February 01, 2014, 09:34:08 PM
10 Days Remain!!!

10 days till???
And don't say 11 of February.

Simply the 37 day cycle ends in 10 days, draw your own conclusions to what may occur.
October 23 -► November 29 -► January 5 -► February 11



as other significant drops occur like on dec 15th to 17th.... choosing 37 day patterns to trade on sounds more like playing bingo.



904. Post 4887595 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 02, 2014, 02:57:16 AM
we will be at 830 by monday, and then, lol, then you fools shorting satoshi are gonna start saying things like " why is price going up Huh " " who's the moron buying  Angry "

Fiat Vs Crypto

wtf did you think was gonna happen!?

 Cool

CCMF

due to currency rates, 817 Bitstamp is 909cad : D ....cavirtex is still at 898cad Sad  but wait that means our coins are on discount, woo $11 off lol .. oh wait 3% fees bah!

I introduced a buddy who expressed interest in joining the hodlers club to the cad exchanges option and he gave the vault of satoshi a shot. I'll have to find out what the experience was like.

day 2 of the painful lack there of insta crash for the bears, slow squeeze on shorts.



905. Post 4890065 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

wall of support on btcchina will it dissipear get munched to follow huobi



906. Post 4891127 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: wobber on February 02, 2014, 10:55:34 AM
New resistance on Bitstamp at precisely 824.4. We have 2hrs and still nobody managed to pass that. My TA shows that it's also a support, effectively blocking the price for another few hrs.


plz tell me you're trolling... you know its been down for maintenance right lol



907. Post 4906563 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: mb300sd on February 03, 2014, 06:19:42 AM
As many must have noticed, volume was generally quite low over the last two days.  

Volume in China actually recovered a bit compared to Jan/31 (Chinese New Year), to about 50 kBTC.   Huobi's hour-by-hour volume followed an unusual pattern: low in the morning and lunchtime, growing to very high at night, and falling to near zero only after 02:00 am.   Not implausible for an extended holiday, I would say.

BTC-China seems to be still in zombie mode; the little real volume they have may be just arbitrage.

The total volume outside China, on the other hand, was a record low this Sunday Feb/02.  It was ~25% less than Friday's Jan/31 (itself 50% less than previous Friday's Jan/24) and only ~1/3 of previous Sunday's Jan/26.

The biggest drop outside China was at Mt.GOX: only 2.28 kBTC on Sunday Feb/02, which is ~1/2 of Fri Jan/31 and Sat Feb/01, and ~1/5 of previous Sunday's Jan/26.

  

Its SuperBowl Sunday... a de-facto national holiday here.

even in Canada, most everyone is watching football. I however did bring up bitcoin during the party lol

Jan will go down as quite a month of low volatility. let's go feb launching pad.



908. Post 4906844 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: threecats on February 03, 2014, 06:46:20 AM
900 dump on bitstamp

the recent dump was like 360 coins...what are you speaking of?

619 in the last on the 30 minute chart



909. Post 4907106 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 03, 2014, 07:14:03 AM
going down?

Bitstamp move back up immediately.  Huobi has not given you permission to go down.

imagine, if the China fear takes the same length of time to die off as the Silk Road closure did Cheesy



910. Post 4907360 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: podyx on February 03, 2014, 07:47:07 AM
dat wall on stamp doe

if that wall is going away, i think we see 600 Smiley

it feels nice to have fresh fiat on exchanges i must admit

why would this drop be more significant then the last testing of 770s?  just out of curiosity



911. Post 4907387 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: podyx on February 03, 2014, 07:53:29 AM
dat wall on stamp doe

if that wall is going away, i think we see 600 Smiley

it feels nice to have fresh fiat on exchanges i must admit

why would this drop be more significant then the last testing of 770s?  just out of curiosity

same reason we havent been bouncing between 770-830 the last 3 years

which is?



912. Post 4908530 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 03, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Bitcoin miners [...] are going to start hoarding everything from this point onwards as it is not mathematically possible to see a ROI, it makes no sense to sell the coins as they will be selling at an inevitable loss. By the end of march there will be artificial scarcity on the markets due to the miners hoarding from now until then. At precisely this time we will see the a price hike of at least 2x current prices.

Er, how many coins will be mined to the end of March?  

Are the low prices really due to the influx of mined coins?


same coins as always.. but .. really the question is how they' are divided among the different miners and  pools.

add some variance persay for spikes off old machines going offline and or new ones coming on in big shipping waves lol



913. Post 4924309 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Someone earlier mentioned that the silkroads went down with 200k btc.. not correct. 30-40k we're held in escrow. The other coins we're DPR's which aren't up for sale yet.

Also Overstock's price didn't only drop because of a mention of his own personal purchase and the stance change to they would never hold coins till suppliers excepted them as payment. There we're other financial reason related to the quarterly report.

I give the bears till Feb 14th all the Holidays will have shaken out by then, Valentines day might see someone selling to buy shiny things for the better halves.



914. Post 4925065 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat on February 04, 2014, 05:07:26 AM

yeah that is insane

they held a public forum, I wondering if these reddit posts asking for questions and reasons for btc to be implemented are actually people going to events like these.. please lord let them see the light and yes I am speaking to His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat.



915. Post 4925484 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Almost Human does it again, with 3D printing this time. They don't call it a bitcoin but if you have payed attention or watched the season they refer to these silver usb sticks as BTC.
 
 The scene has a 3D Laser printer making a flower.. assuming advanced 3D printing. She takes a device that resembles a usb drive, at the least matches what the referred to as a bitcoin in the previous episodes taps it to his smart phone/tablet devices as to pay for the flowers and departs.





916. Post 4926788 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

denied but a re rally lol?

lol this is FUD about the BTC-e FUd http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wyvdi/previous_reports_about_btce_confirmed_as_fake/

essentially the original posting is gone or whatnot, removed due to being a bs?

Quote from: OldGeek on February 04, 2014, 07:26:24 AM
Holy crap! 870 coins sold on Stamp in seconds.  WTF?

relax there.. never seen a wall get eaten?

funny enough all that amounted to was bitstamp trigger huobi into a rally above 4900 again



917. Post 4927644 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

the demand for goxbux just rose quickly



918. Post 4928543 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

got to test the lows before the choo choo

the hackers we're late to dump their coins after the hack was announced lol Cheesy



919. Post 4928956 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

I haven't see panic shit crazy since, dec 5th and 17th. Nothing quaked quite like that. It also turned the market FUDBear, didn't matter what it was the news had people on edge. Most of the following news out of China after the Dec 5th statments outlined what is still in place today. They stopped third party processors. They ensured the PBOC makes fees on transfer of the money and sees whose sending it where in the relation to btc exchanges, besides those buying recharge vouchers.

It still holidays in China, people will try and make money however it seems best to. For the last while selling and buying back in cheaper has been the trend but the drops are less wild week by week. I think the Charts across all exchanges show this. I'd say if we hit 770 on stamp today then the bears are coming on hard.. I'd be surprised to see the market try and test 780.



920. Post 4929075 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on February 04, 2014, 10:49:56 AM
Wall removed. Price above 800 again. I was wrong. The dumper failed to create panic.
Ok lows tested. Now we can go up Wink
Must suck to lose your coins that way Smiley

they could dump again, I've just learned that it goes where it wants to go...whatever way that may be. The momentum in oct-dec rally had me seeing bulls everywhere.



921. Post 4929501 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

490 coin buy wall at 800.22 : D wonder if this pressure works.



922. Post 4939638 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: Kramerc on February 04, 2014, 09:47:26 PM
I think he misunderstood my post. The question was "Why are we following China?", considering that everyone knows their volume is hyperinflated by no transaction fees.

sheep are sheep, I've been hodling no following required.



923. Post 4939849 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: MatTheCat on February 04, 2014, 09:54:49 PM
I've been hodling no following required.

What a rather sheeplike thing to say.

Had to un-ignore you on the chance you wrote something genius. thanks for living up to the past.



924. Post 4940244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

anyone see whats going on in regards to Gox, twice I've seen it touch 900? Are the fake walls being pulled that quickly.. 905-915 2000+ coins for sale in that range are just being pulled and replaced.


lol seems like I was the slowest to type this question out. Interesting times for gox.. very interesting.



925. Post 4941729 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

I see the spread is decreasing, .. lol are people willing to hold dem gox bux again?>



926. Post 4942322 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: kurious on February 05, 2014, 12:31:52 AM
I see the spread is decreasing, .. lol are people willing to hold dem gox bux again?>

It's not that Gox bucks are getting any better... it's just Gox BTC becoming progressively worse. So the price of shitty Gox coins is decreasing when measured in shitty Gox dollars. Ironic, isn't it?

Correct. When the gox price falls to stamp price then the market will have priced in equal (snowball in hell) chance of extracting fiat or btc.

Yeah - but the run for the door will not be pretty - this will not be a small story if Gox melts down.

Pray for a takeover - or watch a little carnage, this is not good for Bitcoin - it's not going to be like Silk Road, it will cast doubts on the whole system and the bitcoin doomsters will love piling in to celebrate the stench of disrepute.

Krapeles is on the (already discredited) Bitcoin Foundation.

It's bad.   Takeover soon - or the spotlight we have on BTC might no longer see the sparkling future of Bitcoin for a long time to come.

It may turn and focus on the 'burst bubble' story and the 'seedy and unregulated' line, if it isn't sorted - it won't be pretty.  I hope some investors are in there trying to lever Mark out.    This WOULD be good news - I wonder where Loaded and his pals are right now...


Well, I mean you have to buy into btc, to transfer out.. which is still easier or more likely easier then fiat international withdrawals.



927. Post 4942619 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.02h):

Quote from: kurious on February 05, 2014, 12:44:34 AM
I see the spread is decreasing, .. lol are people willing to hold dem gox bux again?>

It's not that Gox bucks are getting any better... it's just Gox BTC becoming progressively worse. So the price of shitty Gox coins is decreasing when measured in shitty Gox dollars. Ironic, isn't it?

Correct. When the gox price falls to stamp price then the market will have priced in equal (snowball in hell) chance of extracting fiat or btc.

Yeah - but the run for the door will not be pretty - this will not be a small story if Gox melts down.

Pray for a takeover - or watch a little carnage, this is not good for Bitcoin - it's not going to be like Silk Road, it will cast doubts on the whole system and the bitcoin doomsters will love piling in to celebrate the stench of disrepute.

Krapeles is on the (already discredited) Bitcoin Foundation.

It's bad.   Takeover soon - or the spotlight we have on BTC might no longer see the sparkling future of Bitcoin for a long time to come.

It may turn and focus on the 'burst bubble' story and the 'seedy and unregulated' line, if it isn't sorted - it won't be pretty.  I hope some investors are in there trying to lever Mark out.    This WOULD be good news - I wonder where Loaded and his pals are right now...


Well, I mean you have to buy into btc, to transfer out.. which is still easier or more likely easier then fiat international withdrawals.

Actually that is the point - you can't get BTC out either now....  That's why it's looking like the last nail if it ain't fixed.

I don't mean to be a doom-sayer, but Gox was 'the big one' and now it has lost the plot.    I can't see how, with lower revenues and market share it will fix the problems while an exodus of confidence is draining its reserves.

There must be a tipping point, and it will go offline if it reaches it.  Click... and it's gone?  I wouldn't bet against it.  Really.

not everyone can't get btc out of gox, so my point is that almost nobody but those in Japan, really get fiat withdrawals at all. Which is what I was leaning towards in the statement that its still easier to get btc. The panic hasn't really shown yet regarding the btc backlog.

agreed the gox thing appears to be approaching a tipping point.



928. Post 4963235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Hodlers gonna hodl, solders already sodl, and whales gonna manipulate. Everything seems to be as it was.


Other thoughts, 700, the new basement price for bitcoin? I mean if the whales had 30k more coins they could drop it to 300 like in Decemeber.. but a 4k ish dump isn't gonna rock the boat the same way.

If we rebound to 800 by the midnight eastern time zone, I'll start selling my body to buy coins.



929. Post 4963403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

lol lack thereof btc withdrawal = goxbux revival 800 coins sold just now or so.



930. Post 4963611 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 06, 2014, 12:29:14 AM
Start time of the 2014-02-05 "mini-crash" on various exchanges,
estimated visually from the 1-minute charts at
http://bicoinwisdom.com:


  Time  ! Exchange ! Drop ! Un. ! Vol.BTC
  ------+----------+------+-----+--------
  22:50 | Huobi    |  5.0 | CNY |   24.25
  22:56 | MtGOX    |  8.0 | USD |  186.80
  23:03 | BTC-e    |  0.8 | USD |   20.54
  23:03 | Bitstamp |  2.5 | USD |   27.07
  23:03 | Coinbase |  3.0 | USD |     . 
  23:05 | BitFinEx |  5.0 | USD |   46.98
  23:06 | OKCoin   | 15.0 | CNY |   12.15


Date and times are UTC.

AFAIK, Feb/05 22:50 UTC = Feb/05 17:50 in New York = Feb/06 07:50 in China.

The start of the mini-crash is often hard to pinpoint objectively.
At Huobi, in particular, the price started to decrease slowly and then
accelerated.  Other people may pick completely different times
which may lead to different time orderings of the exchanges.


feb 5th 14:29 bitwisdom stamp price 900 coins sold.. think that was the start.



931. Post 4963650 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Gox wants parity loool



932. Post 4963698 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: surfer43 on February 06, 2014, 12:42:07 AM
If Gox goes down to the actual price, the other exchanges will crash.  Roll Eyes
why don't ppl ignore gox Huh

because people still buy and trade btc there, if bitstamp didn't care they wouldn't have tried to stay away by $100+ so even they themselves are actively distancing themselves and showing the care factor.

imo this is pure FUD getting to those who expected a new years crash, if this was lined up with btc-e fud we'd be sub 700 already. Just bad manipulators out there these days.

I can't say you'll be sorry if it recovers to 800-820 as Tera somewhat eluded to earlier. But good luck trading :d find the re entry point...generally I've been burned by not waiting the extra day for the secondary hit when the volume is high enough on the downtrends.



933. Post 4963903 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 06, 2014, 12:48:53 AM
 Shocked

Gox Bux are getting increasingly expensive, i never thought i'd see the day...

we may actually see, gox hit 800 and then people just stop caring altogether about it. I am still so uncertain if this is lag from China right now.. but they should be waking up awful soon. 790usd on huobi seems like a pretty tough number to drop atm compared to the other exchanges.

less coins to go up a lvl then down on Huobi Chinese bulls putting the team on their backs.


We saw lag earlier today with stamp trying to follow gox  in the sense of keeping the 115-130 gap range.

We're only maintaining the $70 gap...i'd love for gox to be like withdrawals for all then a choo choo but thats the perma disney bull in me.



934. Post 4964071 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on February 06, 2014, 01:11:20 AM
Wtf is with this market... gox went down for 90$ stamp only 15$?Huh C'mon I want 750$ coins!!! Grin

pretty sure you know why... if not check the order books and understand why lol



935. Post 4964167 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

been waiting for gox and stamp to come together for a while this seems like it. That support on gox is piling in at 800 Cheesy (troll>>>) they figure thats cheap for imaginary money opposed to imaginary coins (troll <<<<)

However I mean if gox is a toxic as it is claimed to be, this will not end cleanly lol



936. Post 4964312 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: Vigil on February 06, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Is this the rebound or bull trap?


i was upstairs eating an orange otherwise I would've beat your post lol

low vol choo choo q bull trap statements



937. Post 4964395 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: shmadz on February 06, 2014, 01:33:06 AM
NEWS FLASH: Apparently Apple pulled the Blockchain.info wallet app for iPhone/iPad from the AppStore.  

http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/06/blockchain-response-to-apple/

fuck apple, never buy anything from them and short their stock
fuck apple

Fuck apple indeed.  Read Blockchain.info response; Apple has gone from an innovator to a rent-seeking parasite.    

I can honestly and proudly say that I have never bought any apple product, and I never will.

I did briefly have quicktime installed many years ago and I did seriously consider getting an apple IIc when it was time to upgrade my Vic 20, but I rightly chose to go with the C64 instead.  Cool )*

They do a good job at satisfying baby boomer needs and wants ( my parents are in love ) I don't know what it is ..but I can't convince them to try cheaper more custom developed android products. Whatever, the idea you can't upgrade your battery or storage completely turned me off from their products. Never again, never again.



938. Post 4964424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 06, 2014, 01:35:57 AM
Whenever there is a large sell at Huobi that moves the price way down,  immediately afterwards there is a transaction by 0.01 BTC at the upper end of the spread,restoring the old price.

Does that counts as "manipulation"?


well, if it was done by the same seller, I would count it as an attempt to be underhanded, or manipulate other buyers. However I don't think it fools well coded bots.



939. Post 4964550 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: biafore on February 06, 2014, 12:39:54 AM
I personally dumped 100 over 3 hours ago Cool

feeling smart still? this comment was worth un-ignoring you

wondering if you re-entered or set a re-entry point.



940. Post 4964579 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: seleme on February 06, 2014, 01:48:26 AM
These words might hunt me one day but boy, I'd be pissed these days if I'd be a bear.

Oh dear!

You can be pissed by both, beeing bear or bull.

We go back to 800,00$ and than?  Huh

Not really, I'm perfectly fine of it staying around 800$. I never expected it to go to 2k so soon after last ATH. But poor bears are expecting 400-500 coins for weeks and there were 10 situations when they got giddy just to price go back to 800 in hour or two. It must have been a painful experience for them.

I said if we go back to 800 before midnight eastern time. I'd start whoring myself so I can put more fiat in the exchange lol.



941. Post 4967499 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: medialab101 on February 06, 2014, 06:30:34 AM
Gox just hit the 800 wall  Shocked

the gap closes continually, confusing the shit out of me.

what happens if they only fix btc withdrawals on gox.. do people go full btc on this dip with the lower prices.. lool this is madnessss I say



942. Post 4967862 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: MAbtc on February 06, 2014, 07:04:01 AM
What is going on with Bitfinex....  Huh

what the faq indeed.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/ltcbtc no really wtf



943. Post 4968056 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

2k sell on stamp



944. Post 4969568 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

yes 800 after midnight.. I don`t have to whore myself out.. phew

3 coins short of that 1000 on that last buy. damm



945. Post 4969635 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: TERA on February 06, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
Gox is probably going to go flying up to 930 at some point - it's really thin now.

yeah like right after I read this the thin buying started flying up lol



946. Post 4982022 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: TERA on February 06, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
Every bitcoin post-rally has a slow final downwave that involves a 1 week MACD cross. It doesn't really need to be news-based.

did you bring this up cause this crossing just occurred on stamp ?



947. Post 4982396 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on February 06, 2014, 09:45:27 PM
So if it follows previous patterns, after this downturn, we slowly start going up towards a new ATH?

even if I have to wait till Sept. 2014 for the next rally, ain't no thang Cheesy



948. Post 4982537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

766 wall munchy time, seems like someone wants the cheaper coins



949. Post 4984191 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: podyx on February 06, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
@fonzie are u holding any btc at all?? if so, how many?

feeding the trolls is not encouraged.



950. Post 4984461 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: fonzie on February 06, 2014, 11:23:01 PM
I´m 100% honest. I don´t plan to buy back anytime soon. After i have closed my shorts, i won´t put more than 10-15 k into buyin and hodlin.
If it doesn´t go below 400$ i won´t buy anything.

I love how his statements are so skewed by the fact he made money the way people expect to make it over the next year, but if in fact they are truths I am glad he's got a plan, he made money, and has a future plan.



951. Post 4989537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: TERA on February 07, 2014, 05:27:40 AM
Well this is moving much faster than I expected...

If Russia is really important and this time the ban isn't just a FUD article, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see $500. Sadly not surprised to see 700 be the floor for now. Huobi still up at 758 usd value.



952. Post 4989655 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: OldGeek on February 07, 2014, 05:38:47 AM
I was inclined to think the Russia scare was FUD.  Watching BTC-e now I'm not so sure.  A lot of pressure there.

personally its bullish to me, Russian banning the crypto cause its related to the mob, if that's not irony then what is.

However real or not it sows FUD for sure, I just hope the American's realize they get first dibs on making this more legit and get a bigger piece of that pie.



953. Post 4990149 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: TERA on February 07, 2014, 06:13:33 AM
At some point there's going to be this giant green candle and some walls to piss off bears.

what a weird... candle



954. Post 4990325 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

lol dump city,



955. Post 4990531 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: traderCJ on February 07, 2014, 06:53:48 AM
My God, it's full of sell.  Shocked

1400 sell at back at 700 wtf lol those order book full of orders getting brought out on limit



956. Post 4990689 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: versace on February 07, 2014, 07:13:30 AM
looks like im still holding

see you guys in a year

lol i was so close to beating the wave on cavirtex but i pussied out for 20 second. hodl it is ... to pussy to make quick money lol



957. Post 4990894 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: medialab101 on February 07, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
Get your cheap coins now... I think all the excitement is over for today.

no cheap coins on btcchina lol



958. Post 4990918 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: surfer43 on February 07, 2014, 07:31:16 AM
How much downward pressure can this Russia move have? How low can it take the price? Does only $50-$100 seem legit or are we looking at $200-$300.

$1000 plus easy.
lol. just lol.
typical bull  Wink

His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat
Tyrant of the Crypto Crypt, land of the copasetic crypto is no typical bull...I mean don't we all wish we drove around in Lambo's



959. Post 4991074 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: ZoSo15 on February 07, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
Ok, this sort of looks like the bottom. Good enough for me.

Fully Bitcoin once again. Choo-choo!

Patience is a virtue.  Smiley

that's why we're hodling for a year Cheesy



960. Post 4991221 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: windjc on February 07, 2014, 07:56:27 AM
Man, once Gox can process btc withdrawals again, this price is going to shoot back up. This fall is based on nothing tangible at this point.

yar, this has the feeling of dec 17th fighting the urge to sell, and see the price still cut in half.. so sour that people panic so hard. Mind you amazed at how many coins have been transferring hands, go go



961. Post 4991397 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: medialab101 on February 07, 2014, 08:04:54 AM
This fall is based on nothing tangible at this point.


Gox faltering on the brink
Apple bans blockchain app
Russians planning on outlawing BTC
Huge orchestrated dumping across exchanges
Gox finally shutting down BTC withdrawal

Lots of reasons for this dump today

no no no , it is just so the Chinese can lead us once again to ATH's silly silly ( trolling < but not really )



962. Post 4991564 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

stamp seems like it doesn't want to be near gox
and runs further down so weird.



963. Post 4991734 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: Vigil on February 07, 2014, 08:25:25 AM
So, where's the floor people?

Time for a new poll Adam
I'd say it is around $450.

feels like it could be lower, if people are thinking fiat is safer on Gox. I am quite amazed Gox thought it was a good idea to halt btc withdrawal, better off fucking pausing trading and straightening everything out lol... cause now it no fiat withdraw no btc withdraw, just fucking panic sell or buy time lol



964. Post 4991777 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.03h):

Quote from: gizmoh on February 07, 2014, 08:30:08 AM
Bottom HIT. Rally NOW. Enjoy

we don't know we could see a short-time frame quad bottom



965. Post 4991812 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: Vigil on February 07, 2014, 08:31:41 AM
So, where's the floor people?

Time for a new poll Adam
I'd say it is around $450.
just like the last crash...

Nah, not going that low, we're not far away from bottom I think.
Maybe not now. It will go that low in the coming days/weeks.

So I'd assume 60% of your staggered buys would've been hit or so



966. Post 4991967 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: JakeGold on February 07, 2014, 08:39:15 AM
While Canada sleeps  Grin
not sleeping, just hodling



967. Post 4992049 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

I am really hoping btc-e can just use huobi and help the exchange detach from the burning gox ship.



968. Post 4992328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

the rebound needs more volume, where some people go back to full btc. most people could' have extra if they shorted Cheesy lol  buy back in sell near 800+ and short again wouldn't surprise me.

this movement has to be gox induced super panic, think we see another down wave before morning lol



969. Post 4992380 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: NordicMoose on February 07, 2014, 09:05:30 AM
Until there is a legitimate Bitcoin exchange that is located in the United States and is certified to do business in all 50 states and abides by all the regulations set by the SEC or whoever, I do not think Bitcoins can maintain a higher price... I do not know why people continue to spam its gonna go up to 2k when almost every bitcoin exchange method is either reliant on Bitstamp or simply localbitcoin.

I really don't think the U.S. is the best place to start a new exchange right now with this latest bitcoin witchunt. U.K. and Europe are bitcoin's only hope really. U.S. was where they arrested Ross and precipitated all this madness with their FUD that has done so much damage.

And bitcoin cannot be regulated by the way. New York can type up whatever they want on their court ledgers but they don't count as bitcoin is not dependent upon regulation, that is the reason it was created in the first place.

I think cavirtex is pretty stable Cheesy Canada likes the U.S $, there is also Vault of Satoshi, originally only dealt with u.s.d wires, think it has cash deposit it cad and usd now at BMOs or via*

I mean, all in all gox has failed to offer reasonable proof and information regarding the true slowness in withdrawals. Then running into a btc withdrawal issues is like asking for a crisis lol.



970. Post 4992403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

how is stamp over taking btc-e already what the deuce bitcoin exchanges what the deuce lool

and back around lol



971. Post 4992532 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: TERA on February 07, 2014, 09:09:49 AM
I like how the bulls crawl out of the woodwork and start mooing $5000 as soon as the $100 candle appears.

I think most perma bulls are stuck thinking the rush of sheep are coming, I too believe this.

USPS discussing btc exchanges in their post offices

http://www.coindesk.com/can-now-pay-cash-bitcoin-28000-uk-stores/ this for the uk buyers.

bulls are stuck looking far ahead, but are still astounded themselves when the next large rally occurs.

We can hope today a lot of coins we're spread to stronger hands...time will tell Cheesy

I am happy to say the Chinese might keep us a float near to 700-720 Cheesy



972. Post 4994907 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

real question is are the exchanges going to be able to detach from gox.

how many bears have been shaken considering that we bounced of the low 600s, do we see 500s later today, or choo choo to 800 for another week?

$708 986 coin wall is there again. MUNCH IT STAMP MUNCH IT



973. Post 4995011 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: TERA on February 07, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
real question is are the exchanges going to be able to detach from gox.

how many bears have been shaken considering that we bounced of the low 600s, do we see 500s later today, or choo choo to 800 for another week?

$708 986 coin wall is there again. MUNCH IT STAMP MUNCH IT
The trading range with 800 was broken once then 1 week macd crossed down. It's over. We might peak out at 770 during a bounce at best.

**Sets it to sell everything at 770, including the kitchen sink.**



974. Post 4995169 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

What are ya'll feeling about Huobi staying 20-30 higher then the western exchange.. pure gox fud got the westerns panicked.



975. Post 4995273 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: TERA on February 07, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Huobi is almost as irrelevant as gox. Someone on reddit was using traffic analysis to prove that their volume is fake.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x9ikc/okpay_now_reallowing_gbp_bank_transfer_to_crypto/ don't worry there is always some bull fud on reddit to..usually 99.99% of the time

edit: my guess the gox process could take a weekend to reset the btc withdrawal system. then we see the biggest rush to remove the coins. excellent manipulation Cheesy



976. Post 4995426 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: Loozik on February 07, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Are fiat withdrawals from gox affected or also BTC withdrawals as well?

both.. just yesterday or overnight somewhere, to someone, they announced a pause on btc withdrawal. Now everyone who think that gox is ponzi is in full belief.

the truth.. again time is pretty much all that will help us find more out.



977. Post 4995508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=3d

the volumes seem to becoming closer together, perhaps less faking or more hodling huobi.



978. Post 4995575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: biafore on February 07, 2014, 12:29:47 PM
Just woke up cheap coins... But how cheap havent bought yet. Who here thinks it will get lower as the world wakes up. As people hold btc accounts with gox all over the world

Tera  mentioned the final elliot wave will be slower down trend then this sharp decline. so there is that

or it has seemed to have a lot of buy support in the 600s ..and then again near the 700s but it requires alot more buying volume before I'd say were done with the dumping.



979. Post 5012846 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: windjc on February 08, 2014, 08:14:27 AM
FUD aside, the really interesting question is this: Is the current price normalization on Gox permanent, or will the Gox price quickly rise back above the other exchanges in a week or two when Gox resumes BTC withdrawals but still can't process fiat withdrawals?

It will certainly jump back up. This is almost assured because many bitcoiners have been genuinely spooked by this situation and want to leave Gox. The only way to do so is to buy. Once some start buying, it will soon be a frenzy.

The mistake so many on Gox have made is that they think that fiat is safer there than btc. Once they see it is not, they will be leaving on the first available btc train out.

you've grown on me and I value you're input. I am in the gox will fix this boat, or Mark has to Hari Kari himself in Japan lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku



980. Post 5024680 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: magicmexican on February 08, 2014, 10:05:07 PM
Its funny how Gox went from being +100$ from other exchanges to being almost -100$

derp q? zero liquidity + zero btc withdrawal = mass panic quite simple

only thing I am liking is the fact gox is seemingly not affecting the other markets so negatively, having a harder time bringing them down .. I mean the first visit to 650 got stamp to 618



981. Post 5024845 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

hope not fonz, someone has to get burned by speculating on gox's future



982. Post 5025021 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.04h):

Quote from: DougTanner on February 08, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
Huh, down again.

still residual fear and or traders following gox movements



983. Post 5041080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

looking at the past corrections of late 2013 and so on, we've become a lot less fear mongering during these uncertain times, not as many coins are being dumped at ludicrous speeds.

I really hope that the recent peak of bitcoin days destroyed is more or less a testament to the fact old coins are going to new strong hands, I mean I know I can't quantify the numbers of who bought for hodling, or day trading but the trend imo seems to be that the market is soaking up coins at the cheapest prices, and people aren't going to choo choo till we eat all the coins being brought in strictly to be sold.

Also every bear and there brother have waited for the dip and I am sure won't give up their short positions till a strong recovery wave begins, I still think that that could be as soon as valentines day. We've only made it easier for more people to join this revolution.



984. Post 5042179 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on February 09, 2014, 08:28:09 PM

I agree.  I also think that people with the least amount of coins are the ones watching the charts the most.   They are also the first to be claiming the sky is falling, and how everyone needs to get out before it is too late.   


This statement is wrong on so many levels, think about it. If someone holds 100 coins valued at $800 and another person holds 0.25 coins valued at $800, who do you think stands to lose a bigger amount when the price tumbles by half? Who do you think will care whether the price is fluctuating?

I would say, those with the most btc may have bots, better stop loss or limit buys/sells pre-set and staggered. Couple that with price alerts on a phone and they rarely have to stare at the charts. So it is imo equally silly to strictly say that cause they have more invested they would stare at the ticker more often.

I think the main idea of the second sentence of the first quote was that the trolls with small amounts of btc come screaming its dying er mer gerd ! to stir the pot and hopefully get a chance to nibble at cheap coins.



985. Post 5043124 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Jorge how do you suggest we deal with current corruption within the financial industries.

Corporations are getting the tax benefits of human beings and the safety from the laws governing people far too often now a days. Since HSBC could afford to pay the tiny fines on their AML//KYC infractions and the media conglomerates that blast the main stream news never cover these occurrences all that closely, what out there is more transparent than BTC...not including the exchanges cause that is a third party trust factor that one takes when choosing where to trade.



986. Post 5043477 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 09, 2014, 09:41:43 PM
My price prediction formula (can you see what it is?) is starting to fail, but can't resist making another guess.

Again, for tomorrow 2014-02-10 at 19:00 UTC (not before that, not after that):

Huobi: 4450 plus or minus 25 CNY.
Bitstamp: 690 plus or minus 10 USD.

This prediction is free of charge, and worth every cent of it.  Smiley


735 usd stamp and 4540 cny Huobi
I've had a good feeling about Mondays lately lol






987. Post 5047801 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 10, 2014, 03:26:28 AM
btc-e   717
stamps 695


interesting...

Gox was ahead of stamp for a moment, or its so close right now ... le weird, these movements. Stamp is so pre cautionary to gox now I love it.



988. Post 5047891 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Quote from: MANofthePEOPLE on February 10, 2014, 03:40:18 AM
btc-e   717
stamps 695


interesting...

Btc-e probably gonna reach 750 before stamp tears down the walls at 720

walls dissolve when the markets direction changes,



989. Post 5048001 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.05h):

Quote from: pjviitas on February 10, 2014, 03:47:48 AM
12:42PM in Tokyo Japan Mtgox headquarters.

Mark found some coins!!! but will it be enough???!!!

this guy made a crap load of money...what does he care.

he like most business men, wants to make more.

I also don't get why people don't see that the full fiat accounts on gox are going to neeeddddddddd to buy back in and then transfer off to another exchange where they may or may not be previously verified.



990. Post 5066706 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Quote from: mellowyellow on February 10, 2014, 10:54:19 PM

Seriously not much has changed in the past week, nothing that will matter in a years time, probably even less.

No, nothing has changed much in the last week, but I think this year will see under $200 and over $1300 (actually I think $3-5k but that's a little optimistic I know) and this is just one of those bumps on along the way.

In particular I think we have a very rocky few weeks ahead of us as the media will give the impression bitcoin is fatally flawed. It should calm down once that has been clarified, poxy gox is off the scene and china have either started arresting people for trading it, or have sensibly regulated it.

I'm absolutely in this for the long haul, but it's sensible to keep mainly fiat right now.

only reason I think gox isn't gone is purely that they've survived so far, I admit I've become more accepting of the fact they may have lost the coins, and or not have what they claimed and crumble as that becomes proven. Or they threw bitcoin protocol under the bus it hopes of having enough time to overhaul wallet projects and get the wallet system back on track, a massive buy then follows as people rush to withdraw btc as fast as possible. I am not sure whether or not those people are tainted enough to go and sell at the next exchange they are verified or can withdraw conveniently from.




991. Post 5066978 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Quote from: porcupine87 on February 10, 2014, 11:14:35 PM
689 wall breaking,going down again

This you call a wall? Somebody made a 1400btc buy order and only 1133btc got filled instantly. The rest a few minutes later. This is no wall...

Anyhow, I have a good feeling, that we see 750 tomorrow or the day after tomorrow again and 800 on weekend. But it's just a feeling Smiley

I think most people will play on the gox uncertainty as thought price is de coupling all together but the full collapse is not factored in IMO. I think a rally could be sparked if gox started letting people withdraw btc the rest will have to be so strong they could break the downtrend since the  dec. 7 nd 17 sell offs

Stamp is ahead of Huobi now



992. Post 5070710 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Jorge imo the recovery is going to be thinner in volume relatively at least. The flash crashes wipes out the Fiat on all the 50/50 btc/fiat accounts as they are getting their limit orders filled.

When someone is selling for fiat another person generally a stronger hand is buying those coins, combined with the fact we've had support on all these flash crashes during a time of high FUD surrounding gox might start to re inspire some of those less certain about the Future. My friend is still waiting on his 400 price point to get in, I told him your welcome to wait but have the cash set on limit orders if you expect to ever get first come first serve status on those.



993. Post 5070779 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on February 11, 2014, 04:03:42 AM
Anyone want to fulfill this thread's purpose and provide some insight as to where we are headed?

I'm no pro but…

I think we are at the top of a bounce from the crash. So a slow decline, maybe 50-75USD over the next 24-48 hours as speculators wait to see the full affect of public perception of this news before making big moves. But by the end of the week bitstamp should be back around 800, gox 680.


depends on how we treat this wall at 720 Cheesy anyone who sold above 800+ could steal re join feeling safer at this point...but who knows we just gotta wait and see.



994. Post 5073158 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Huobi having a lil mini rally.



995. Post 5073402 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

Quote from: Asrael999 on February 11, 2014, 08:31:46 AM
Just hit the 4hr cross. looks like 700 is the new floor.
Still waiting for the 2 hr cross on Gox.

why? what's Gox?

goX is the most exciting ride in history.



996. Post 5074019 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

oh dumpy dumpy



997. Post 5076819 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.06h):

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-as-safe-as-wire-transfers-says-ny-hedge-fund/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29

bull fud, huge bull fud? bears verify kthx



998. Post 5094861 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Adam I am so mad, I didn't dump fiat in cavirtex ..though I knew I should've all the cheaper coins are not going to be mine Sad



999. Post 5095428 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: podyx on February 12, 2014, 07:42:10 AM
somebody took a dump on bitstamp??

no they bought coins



1000. Post 5096486 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: nanobrain on February 12, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Think we are going to be testing the December lows at some point soon

FUD will do that but whatever, people with money are going to absorb all those coins, good riddance to those who are afraid.



1001. Post 5096927 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: micalith on February 12, 2014, 10:00:02 AM
This means that the mallable issue has been resolved right? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460876.msg5091537#msg5091537), so as solex suggests, probably just a case of waiting for the exchanges to confirm it


I think the real rush is when exchanges say yup wallets are good to go, people do a couple withdrawals, miners get some fees. If gox can get their problem sorted as well we choo choo.



1002. Post 5111407 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: Richard Branson on February 13, 2014, 01:05:28 AM
santa is coming with $260 coins?? NICE!  Grin

Not unless there is some more devastating news. The weak hands have gone.

Do you really believe that?
There are a lot of stupid above 1000$ buyers that are still hodling. They will panic sell soon (within 4 weeks).

doubt it



1003. Post 5111756 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000245383 OMG HODLERS UNITE



1004. Post 5113580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: BitChick on February 13, 2014, 04:50:17 AM
Do you really believe that?
There are a lot of stupid above 1000$ buyers that are still hodling. They will panic sell soon (within 4 weeks).

Hey, I take offence to this! I am one of these 'stupid' people. As they say, it is probable that Bitcoin will have a binary outcome, so I simply jumped on as soon as I could (which in hindsight, was unfortunately close to the ATH) but I have held ever since. No plans to panic sell. As far as I'm concerned, my coins are still worth at least $1060 because I will not part with them for any less.

That is the best way to look at it!  So glad you did not panic and sell.  I was in the same exact situation after the last "crash."  for several months I was "underwater" if you want to call it that.  It was a bit painful knowing that if I had just waited a month longer I could have gotten coins for less than I paid for them, but it is really hard to guess what the peaks are.  There are some things to estimate what it is.  I think the next run will bring us to $5000 or more but we will see.  I am fairly confident this is just one more little bump in the road and coins are really cheap right now for those that have the cash to buy more. Smiley

just to clarify I said.. No to that quote, and I didn't write that quote..

otherwise.. I could add I did buy some coins at 142.50 and some at 970.00 Cheesy
full hodler certified member



1005. Post 5113746 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on February 13, 2014, 01:15:13 AM
santa is coming with $260 coins?? NICE!  Grin

Not unless there is some more devastating news. The weak hands have gone.

Do you really believe that?
There are a lot of stupid above 1000$ buyers that are still hodling. They will panic sell soon (within 4 weeks).

doubt it

thats how it was quoted stop portraying me as Mr. Branson



1006. Post 5113813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: JulieFig on February 13, 2014, 05:20:49 AM
santa is coming with $260 coins?? NICE!  Grin

Not unless there is some more devastating news. The weak hands have gone.

Do you really believe that?
There are a lot of stupid above 1000$ buyers that are still hodling. They will panic sell soon (within 4 weeks).

doubt it

thats how it was quoted stop portraying me as Mr. Branson

Sorry Davy05!

thanks Cheesy I just want to be remembered as a perma bull Cheesy



1007. Post 5114239 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: windjc on February 13, 2014, 06:06:57 AM
I noted the post a few pages back with regard to BTC wallet downloads in China, whihc have seen a sharp increase recently.

Does this suggest the Chinese market is going to be moving more of their coins off exchanges in turn reducing trading volume on Huobi etc even further?



You are reading way to much into it. More wallets means more interest, more involvement, more people interesting in having bitcoin. This is a good thing. Very basic.

agreed for the most part this is the continued growth of Chinese people's interest in Bitcoin. I had my wallet long before I ever bought a bitcoin, recovered it and the .10 of bitcoin that I had mined over a 4-5 days with a gtx 460 while I slept and was at school. I wish I had bought a dedicated gpu rig :S, as I wasn't even wise enough to fathom direct fiat investment till I re-evaluated mining earnings early this fall.

I think we'll see more people buying small bits of bitcoin instead of mining it now though, to get familiar with the intricacies and try out wallets.



1008. Post 5114459 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: MANofthePEOPLE on February 13, 2014, 06:28:16 AM
Someone really do not want the price to drop below $500 at gox

I just don't feel like trading at all knowing the problem may take some time to be solved and solutions then implemented but I know they will be solved..so I'm just rather lazy to ship more fiat to the exchange and stagger buys lower in case someone else feels like shitting the bed with fear.

If Gox comes online relatively close or before other exchanges that have halted withdrawals it may survive this recent gauntlet of failure.



1009. Post 5114527 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: creekbore on February 13, 2014, 06:36:00 AM
For those who don't know Risto has been predicting a significant fall tomorrow 14th Feb.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.0

(which on a purely emotional/intuitive level I tend to agree with)

nerds ain't got no girls to splurge on ..oh shit the escort services. GG



1010. Post 5115798 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: RicePicker on February 13, 2014, 08:44:39 AM
Is every site getting DDOSed?

BTC-E, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Bitcoinwisdom Down

wisdom is fine for me, and my exchange is fine, canadian .

my guess its traffic due to gox breaking 500 downwards.

or maybe updates to wallet software etc



1011. Post 5115881 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on February 13, 2014, 08:52:57 AM
What's today's reason for the sheep to panic btw?

Fear?  Insecurity?  Who knows.

So nothing really. As most of the times. Panic selling because there might be panic selling.
Really at which point is this gonna stop? How is it gonna stop? When we reach the bottom? Is everybody happy then?

the best idea purported was that fiat is easier to make claim to in lawsuits Cheesy

however all it really does spring load a gun if the withdrawal of btc system becomes an option..as it will work better then fiat channels



1012. Post 5116148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.07h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on February 13, 2014, 09:12:27 AM

I know but it feels different this time. Mainly because people don't care about good news anymore. Which was the reason we always went up before. They completely ignore that now. The only thing on their mins since jan 1 is sell sell sell.
I don't think we've had this happen before.

Could be that a great majority of the newcomers were expecting great gains in short time periods.

Obviously a lot of people bought at 900+ so i bet tons of them must be panic selling now with a big loss.
I guess they will learn the hard way when they panic buy back in when we go up again.

buy range was from 142.50 - 938.00 cad , I've sold for profit 3 times, but really minimal 120.00 CAD but my mistakes were not riding the reason for taking a bearish stance and to be rewarded by the greater dip 24 hrs later, essentially re-entering before a bull trap formed. I just like to hodl though, the price went up so fast in the fall I didn't even have to spend my initial target investment Cheesy



1013. Post 5127571 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

peoples reactions to fud never cease to amaze me. I know it takes a lot to not want to make money selling and buying back lower but hodl I will. I'd guess this is all pre stolen coin dumping dumps



1014. Post 5127687 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: MANofthePEOPLE on February 13, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
600 wall holding up for now, maybe next bounce will eat it. I can watch these charts for hours when there's action like this

I wonder if the hackers plan to use the coins stolen from sr2.0 to sell into rallies, or sell after large rallies



1015. Post 5127834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: MANofthePEOPLE on February 13, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
600 wall holding up for now, maybe next bounce will eat it. I can watch these charts for hours when there's action like this

I wonder if the hackers plan to use the coins stolen from sr2.0 to sell into rallies, or sell after large rallies

They actually stole the coins? I thought it was complete BS after a quick glance. I guess it depends if they are bulls or bears  Cheesy

seems to be 4400 coins, the admins claiming they used the malleability issue which I don't believe at all

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/02/13/silk-road-2-hacked-bitcoins-stolen-unknown-amount/ this is one of the articles I've read.

edit: answers lay here Adam



1016. Post 5127935 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: biafore on February 13, 2014, 09:44:48 PM
I really cannot understand where do those goxcoin sellers come from, with decent sells too, like 30, 50 coins and stuff. How can you be so late to sell?
It people realizig that if the hold it could be months/years untill they see profit of their original investment. Its called cutting your loses.

Well if they couldn't hold till they we're in the profit then they sound pretty sheepish to me, the only reason I've sold coins is that I want more coins...and I've stopped that cause I really don't like perpetuating being a vulture on these noob panic sellers. However its hard to turn down the chance to make ..200 a coin nearly if I sold at my assumed peak on cavirtex of 850 Cheesy  666 is the current re-entry price.. oh well I don't feel bad, just looking forward to the recovery down the road.



1017. Post 5128076 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: traderCJ on February 13, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
600 wall holding up for now, maybe next bounce will eat it. I can watch these charts for hours when there's action like this

I wonder if the hackers plan to use the coins stolen from sr2.0 to sell into rallies, or sell after large rallies

They actually stole the coins? I thought it was complete BS after a quick glance. I guess it depends if they are bulls or bears  Cheesy

seems to be 4400 coins, the admins claiming they used the malleability issue which I don't believe at all

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/02/13/silk-road-2-hacked-bitcoins-stolen-unknown-amount/ this is one of the articles I've read.

edit: answers lay here Adam

No one knows exactly how many were stolen yet, just estimates so far.

"Update: The amount of BTC that was stolen was calculated by Nicholas Weaver @NCWeaver – Computer Security Researcher, to be around:  4474.266369160003BTC that are with the value of about $2.7 Million."
This seem like a good estimate I'd love to know what the calculations he used we're



1018. Post 5128346 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

we ain't going to choo choo till withdrawals are turned back on Sad patiently waiting.. and also thinking about  buying.. at this point it barely effects my avg weighted buy-in.



1019. Post 5128872 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: GaliX on February 13, 2014, 10:31:04 PM
dead bull

can someone please ban this guy? wtf

you eat meat everyday, what are you afraid of?  Undecided

I also ask this question when people get scared by killed animals / dead animal corpses.
Unfortunately I will never understand why people can eat animals but never want to see the ugly side of eating meat.

psychological distancing and or naive behaviors.



1020. Post 5128897 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: podyx on February 13, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
being full btc when the price dropping fucking sucks i must admit lol  Grin

I guess if that means no fiat you can send to an exchange. I've been debating this for a week or two. I don't really feel hurt about the price drop I feel hurt that I am not buying it.



1021. Post 5129361 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on February 13, 2014, 10:47:21 PM
dead bull

can someone please ban this guy? wtf

you eat meat everyday, what are you afraid of?  Undecided

I also ask this question when people get scared by killed animals / dead animal corpses.
Unfortunately I will never understand why people can eat animals but never want to see the ugly side of eating meat.

psychological distancing and or naive behaviors.
Dudes, if you eat a rotting cow you are gonna end up on the ground next to it.... .

where does the op say anything about rotten or roadkill style meats?

I've watched a cow get slaughtered from live to packed in to a box, and it was not pretty but I watched cause I thought I should be aware of what makes that steak dinner possible.

edit: then I applied that thought process to Mc Donalds requirements of meat and the amount of slaughtering done on their behalf lol. I can admit I've never seen a large industrial meat processing plant, this was a family farm style event.



1022. Post 5132618 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

200 usd spread nearly at the stamp gox canyon, the panic is intense Cheesy. This must be tense for those with low faith in the protocol. I just remain patient and let the devs and exchange address any issues they face.



1023. Post 5133040 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHUbLv4ThOo sadly this soothes me during these times Cheesy



1024. Post 5133519 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

Someone wants to snatch up all the coins on stamp real quick lol



1025. Post 5133573 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/434148075276206080

looks like wisdom stop tracking stamp for me an hour ago, sounded like wall munching from my 500 vol. bitcoinity alerts,

either way, next Monday the latest we see the wallets all updated.



1026. Post 5134268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

someone mentioned, stamp was rectifying account numbers btc wise atleast, think people are becomeing confident again, steady buying pressure since the last low was tested



1027. Post 5134718 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.08h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xvhi3/mtgox_proceeding_to_patch/

if they come up online first the lulz will ensue



1028. Post 5137512 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

https://www.bitstamp.net/

READ THE NEWS btc withdrawal coming up later today :: WOOWOWOOWOW CHOO CHOOoooo

edit: +1 to mars !



1029. Post 5137570 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: mestar on February 14, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
3 minutes ago - 200 BTC market buy order on BFX
Uhh, thats.. totally insignificant.

There was a 5k market sell order on mtgox a little while ago. 5000 (5k) [5 thousand] {FIVE THOUSAND}

Yes, but 200 is much more important.  It proves that we are right.  5000 sell means nothing, probably just a typing error, he meant to buy for $5000 or something.





your silly to think a 5k market order is nothing lol



1030. Post 5137581 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: gizmoh on February 14, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
https://www.bitstamp.net/

READ THE NEWS btc withdrawal coming up later today :: WOOWOWOOWOW CHOO CHOOoooo

edit: +1 to mars !


Nothing will change IMO, until Gox price pushes up.


negative, gox is the past, we went real full on bear cause btc-e and stamp stop btc withdrawals...people thought they were soon to be found on a gox boat, IMO.

edit: gox has now sparked many business people on trying to deliver a good U.S btc exchange.



1031. Post 5137634 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 14, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
Bitstamp to resume withdrawals later today:
Quote
Dear Bitstamp clients,

A denial-of-service attack caused us to suspend the processing of Bitcoin withdrawals. Bitstamp, with help from the Bitcoin core developers, has implemented a solution that passes our preliminary tests and audits.

After additional testing, we plan to enable Bitcoin withdraws later today.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards,

The Bitstamp team

Finally, this is what the market needed!

It sets up some pretty big expectations. If they don't deliver and we go into another Chinese day of trading, I will be wrong about calling the bottom. But if they do deliver, CCMF!!!

what do you think this initial new shock does to the east coast. I'm think we head for 700 and hit a wall of bear... the buying is starting it seems



1032. Post 5137773 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: pinky on February 14, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
So, what's the right price for btc?

market always decides, during panic stricken, btc withdrawal shut downs the price is generally cheaper.



1033. Post 5138084 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 14, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
Just checked the Gox website no new press release.

magicaltux on the github related posting discussed how it seemed stale, what I took as agreed this is the best current solution available. Then suggested that it was being implemented already, and all deposits would have to be halted to get the updates working properly. However just look for the reddit or post he made in the github



1034. Post 5138123 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

most stronger hands, are going to have really picked up a lot of coins and for a good price relative to the recent markets. Profit taking will share some of those coins with others, lol trickle down effect of rallies Cheesy



1035. Post 5138158 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

when one of the first whale buyers splashes back in we might see some of these walls fall out of the way Cheesy



1036. Post 5138195 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 14, 2014, 10:30:33 AM
Looks like the USA woke up  Grin

I am east coast, up all night, the morning people aren't up yet , but I assume lots of people have limit orders.



1037. Post 5145820 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on February 14, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
Bitstamp to resume withdrawals later today:
Quote
Dear Bitstamp clients,

A denial-of-service attack caused us to suspend the processing of Bitcoin withdrawals. Bitstamp, with help from the Bitcoin core developers, has implemented a solution that passes our preliminary tests and audits.

After additional testing, we plan to enable Bitcoin withdraws later today.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards,

The Bitstamp team

Finally, this is what the market needed!

It sets up some pretty big expectations. If they don't deliver and we go into another Chinese day of trading, I will be wrong about calling the bottom. But if they do deliver, CCMF!!!

what do you think this initial new shock does to the east coast. I'm think we head for 700 and hit a wall of bear... the buying is starting it seems

its ccmf time, self quoting begins.  Seems like my sentiment was correct on the rush to 700 and the Profit taking has begun to taper off the initial rockets.

I also agree you called the bottom along with someone else last night,




1038. Post 5146079 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: michaelGedi on February 14, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Risto believes we still have another month and a half for the bottom to play out... just saying

Risto sad today would be a huge crash on the 14th, mind you he got it partly correct but it had nothing to do with v-day as much as it was uncertainty from withdrawal halting.

Also only 1/4 of 14th played out as a bear market.

I said we'd choo choo today after shaking of Chinese FUD ( two week ago roughly ) but that obviously was changed by malleability and withdrawal halting.



1039. Post 5146238 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: fonzie on February 14, 2014, 06:58:55 PM
People laughed at me when i started shortin @ 840$ . I can live with that.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yeah but it snapped back on your ass. You finally sold your shorts for a meager profit before buying back. While you were out you went silent like a slug.  Now you are short again, except this time you are going to sell for a loss or stop out soon as Gox reopens withdrawals and we bounce again. You'll probably give up a fiat bit of the profits you made on the first trade.

Well i stated a few hours ago that i closed my shorts @ 580$ , which have been opened @ 840$, i also stated that i will short again between 650-690$, when the price was@630 which might have not been the worst  idea as it looks like. Do you have any kind of personal agenda with me? I´m pretty pleased with my profits, thanks again for askin?
Just keep on actin like a dick.

cool story...Mr perfect peak seller and bottom buyer, you generally talk like someone who think their shit smells like roses. I re iterate if what you speak is the truth I am never going to be mad or angry that you made good money. However you speak doom and gloom all the time and then expect to be rewarded with adulation when some FUD or legit reason eclipses your cries of fud.

Aspire to be like Jorge S. His approach with numbers and market behaviors, the new Chinese slumber patterns he's been sharing, have been interesting. Be a bear in a constructive way.



1040. Post 5146366 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on February 14, 2014, 07:08:21 PM

We build momentum slowly until a critical mass is reached and we go parabolic or some other calamity shifts the direction temporarily down again. The point is no ponzi scheme could have survived the shit we just lived through. Bitcoin is the real deal.
You weren't here in 2011, this is nothing but a little scrubbing under nails cleaning up a little.
Even if you invested 3 months ago this still looks like a bull market.

my bull call in oct. was 1k in June the soonest, mind was blown.



1041. Post 5154067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: dgarcia on February 15, 2014, 04:49:50 AM
And there the silly sheep go again. Never ending story.
The sheep were the ones buying it up to 715.

He's a bit dense.

Ignore and sheep are the two words he knows...

Bugstamp now requires 6 confirmations.

think my exchange always required 6 Cheesy cavirtex



1042. Post 5155117 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

I just love bitcoin more everyday, people lost in the quick greed, miss the fact were building up to a financial revolution.



1043. Post 5155213 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.09h):

Quote from: NWOreptilian on February 15, 2014, 07:35:23 AM
I just love bitcoin more everyday, people lost in the quick greed, miss the fact were building up to a financial revolution.

we can worry about decentralized currency later....right now I'm trying to make a quick buck and buying on the downs seems like a very reasonable investment opportunity. HOLDing is great, more power to you, but where is the fun in that?

I tell fonzie every-time his fud aligns with a crash, that if he's making money shorting great, my issues are the doom he spreads as if this is just a beanie baby styled fad. I am all for people day trading as well.  I bought coins and just wanted to hold em for a minimum of a year, my first bull prediction got blown out of the water for 1k coins by June. Wish I hadn't tried to Dollar cost average in during October.

My buddy told me he was discussing crypto with people at his work (security) someone got in at $5 for 200 coins, and sold them all at $100 hope it wasn't cause he thought we were doomed for single or double digits Cheesy




1044. Post 5156118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: TERA on February 15, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
I'm tired of this bullstamp. where is bearstamp.

are you kidding.. we've had full on panic bearstamp for long enough.



1045. Post 5158034 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: Dalmar on February 15, 2014, 12:00:41 PM
Gox wants to break out, but keeps getting slammed by +100 BTC sells, lol.

there people must be really cheesed, and scared. Think about it, first to announce the problem last to fix it lol.



1046. Post 5158061 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on February 15, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
Must suck for all those idiots to sell at 310 and then panic buy back in at 350. And the funny thing is they will do it again. And again.

imagine there just super old stop losses, get triggered lol



1047. Post 5158105 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: hd060053 on February 15, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
Gox wants to break out, but keeps getting slammed by +100 BTC sells, lol.

there people must be really cheesed, and scared. Think about it, first to announce the problem last to fix it lol.

Stopping USD, SEPA and JPY withdrawals wasn't enough of a hint I guess.  

SEPA was not stopped.

it just hinders the amount of fiat they can move, I am sure they're still in litigation over the seized us accounts



1048. Post 5158199 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

according to reddit they're implementing the fixes as we speak...however btc withdrawal won't be re-activated right away, next update monday.



1049. Post 5158248 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 15, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
bitcoins investment performance last 24 months: + 12719.14%
get real

Lucky for you if you bought early (and if you can sell before it goes down to zero, if it will).

But also:

Since 2013-11-30: about -50%
Since 2014-02-01: about -20%

That is real too.

Should I post again the Enron and Worldcom stock price charts?

Please do not waste your time trying to convince me that bitcoin is a good investment.  I will not try to convince you it is not; probabilities are always subjective in the end.

But please be honest when you tell other people about the risks of investing in bitcoin.




so cause he quotes 2 years of data, you quote .. 4 months...... with possibly the largest nation of bitcoin buyers being scared out of their holdings by their own self censoring culture.



1050. Post 5158396 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

its 3 hrs till they start testing the withdrawal on the gox pdf release time line, which is when sunday begins japan time. I think that we see gox rally following the ability to withdrawal coming online as many will be testing it and trying to test how many bitcoins are really still on the exchange



1051. Post 5158834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

no1 at gox wants it to go up until they can withdraw coins. IMO



1052. Post 5169357 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: podyx on February 16, 2014, 01:21:04 AM

+ 1

+2

I told the fonz to aspire to be Jorge Cheesy lol



1053. Post 5169600 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: Holliday on February 16, 2014, 01:36:57 AM
I will be happy, and count it as a success, if bitcoin becomes a viable and attractive alternative to credit cards for legal international payments via internet.

I can agree with that statement if you omit legal. Legal isn't equivalent to moral and in many cases is the opposite. I'm not sure why we should judge anything by whether or not it is legal.

HSBC flirts with legality, they sure don't do moral well either lol...



1054. Post 5173377 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

withdrawal coming around by 10am est to gox if they're downtime works out. No need to sleep this week.



1055. Post 5173904 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: Mythul on February 16, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
If Gox enables bitcoin withdraws are we going to see the first btc-related suicide ? Mt.Gox did so much harm to the community this year is unbelievable .

people chose to panic. should be a crazy day still



1056. Post 5174032 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: Vycid on February 16, 2014, 09:23:23 AM
I am just wondering what the hell will happen next.

These prices are insane. If it enables withdrawles, than what?

I assume they have bought shitloads of cheap coins in themselves, will they rise the price back too $500 plus?

People will start taking out their Bitcoins, but some smart guys have bought in right now and are waiting for this price to double again.

But eh yeah, will this happen. Fuck knows.

The instant Gox opens withdrawals, every single coin in that fucking place will shoot out of there and prices will spike. Anyone still holding GoxBux will be unhappy.

This is the conundrum for me: can I get my USD into GoxCoins before they reopen withdrawals, or will I be left with GoxBux and an inflated price?

this is why many are buying now, I am sure' they're just sitting there refreshing the gox homepage.



1057. Post 5174978 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

45k btc to 0 on gox, I wonder how many coins are going to fly from gox on withdrawal re-opening



1058. Post 5175896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: creekbore on February 16, 2014, 12:08:09 PM
OK. I just logged into Gox to try out the withdrawal rumour (and move my massive stash Wink ) and I notice I received a login authorization email - that's never happened before.

This (perhaps) suggests that they have implemented some additional user features this week and that (perhaps) the news tomorrow will be positive.

Gox said they're would be an update on the 16th, they we're testing the withdrawal system internal first before going live, and there is now less than 3 hrs in the day left, Cheesy Hopefully they work down to the wire.



1059. Post 5176197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: lemonte on February 16, 2014, 12:23:57 PM
OK. I just logged into Gox to try out the withdrawal rumour (and move my massive stash Wink ) and I notice I received a login authorization email - that's never happened before.

This (perhaps) suggests that they have implemented some additional user features this week and that (perhaps) the news tomorrow will be positive.

Gox said they're would be an update on the 16th, they we're testing the withdrawal system internal first before going live, and there is now less than 3 hrs in the day left, Cheesy Hopefully they work down to the wire.


Press release says update on Monday, so the 17th

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140215-BTC-transfers.pdf

your correct I still jumped the gun lol,

check what time it is in japan Cheesy almost the 17th lol



1060. Post 5176583 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

love how they're spring loading the greatest rally of all time lol



1061. Post 5176728 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

where is the burning train pics when you need them



1062. Post 5176774 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

either way if this shit ripples bear in to the other markets I'll be buying for sure.



1063. Post 5176859 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on February 16, 2014, 01:10:43 PM
I don't understand can someone please explain why people are selling at these prices at Gox? You can't get fiat out there anyway so why not keep your btc and hope for Gox allowing btc withdrawals soon? I don't get it.

We're dealing with complete idiots here obviously. People in groups are dumb and afraid and they just follow what the person in front of them does.

I think a lot of people are going to get left in the dust on gox too, it'll be quick when a real whale feels secure enough going back all in pre withdrawals going live



1064. Post 5177179 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: TERA on February 16, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
Well I think one thing has become clear here, Bitstamp has certainly not bottomed out into a rally. For one, look how low the volume has been.

Volume is not bad considering it is Sunday am in the US.

There's only going to be volatility from now until Gox says something...you should be loving it.
Not just today; look at Saturday's bar: 21k.

cause they did 68k in buys friday?



1065. Post 5177197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: mmitech on February 16, 2014, 01:35:08 PM
Stop selling on Stamp you idiots! There is no reason to panic! You are only making it worse for yourself! You stupid sheep!

traders sell now hoping to buy lower, others panic thinking about the worse case scenario which I cant figure out yet, on Monday or in general next week there will be 2 scenarios:

1- Gox will not allow BTC withdrawals and declare its death, bad news people will panic and the price will crash on all other exchanges.
2- Gox will fix the BTC withdrawals and allow people to get out, Arbitrage will happen, all the coins at discount now will be sold on other exchanges which will bring the price down.
 
some people try to play these cards and this is what is happening now...

because everyone thinks that is going to happen the rush to get coins out will not allow for everyone to appreciate this, but many will probably those buying right now lol



1066. Post 5177221 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.10h):

Quote from: TERA on February 16, 2014, 01:36:52 PM
Well I think one thing has become clear here, Bitstamp has certainly not bottomed out into a rally. For one, look how low the volume has been.

Volume is not bad considering it is Sunday am in the US.

There's only going to be volatility from now until Gox says something...you should be loving it.
Not just today; look at Saturday's bar: 21k.

cause they did 68k in buys friday?
There can't just be this medium-high volume support on a single day; it has to persist over multiple days.

ya but whose going to blow their load with gox playing teaser with people.. first to announce the problem last to fix it Cheesy



1067. Post 5191169 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

slept all day, hoping to wake to mtgox updates, however I am calm.



1068. Post 5191228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

Quote from: FTWbitcoinFTW on February 17, 2014, 03:38:40 AM
Just wait for a wave of buy on gox from insiders
It will signal that the update is coming.

Somme ppl have information before other in any market




lol the told us Monday already, We can assume towards the end of their working day. Lunch time just passed.



1069. Post 5193813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

Quote from: TERA on February 17, 2014, 07:39:41 AM
just woke up, order book at gox looks bit better now imo.

i found this link, some kind of secret project of the mtgox founder... http://alphatesters.secretbitcoinproject.com/

anybody knows more about it?



Is that a moon?

someone is trying to shoot for one atleast, I don't see any updates...the foil hatters told me the train would leave before the news because of course the insiders get to knowf irst.



1070. Post 5194882 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

Quote from: yrtrnc on February 17, 2014, 09:48:46 AM
Its already past bedtime for mark kraphead in tokyo, make this announcement already!

Did they even say they were going to make an announcement on Today??

I was doing some reading on Japan work hours, they're longer sounding then the western world. I wonder if the update rolls in when the night shift starts its shift.



1071. Post 5209048 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.12h):

I love the things that end up being discussed to help pass the time during these uncertain times. However let them eat epiphany!



1072. Post 5228070 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.12h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on February 19, 2014, 12:36:01 AM
So lets say you have 50K FIAT on stamp, how would you buy?

like Tera if youve ever seen his limit buy/sell structures.

imo you think its going down, so I advise putting in bids below market price going down by 10-20 $ at a time. You ultimately decide howmmany coins you want factor that in to figure how much of that 50k you need to spend to get to your target



1073. Post 5233876 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.12h):

we should start speculating on the btc cap withdrawals they will have when they go live.



1074. Post 5245679 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

Quote from: KeyserSoze on February 19, 2014, 09:59:24 PM
...waiting for price to rocket around like a pinball on the Gox announcement...
Edit: with Guinness beer in hand.

You might want more than one beer on hand.  I don't even drink and I am tempted!   Cheesy

I'm hoping Gox waits until the end of Thursday to announce so I have an excuse to drink for 24 hours!

I wonder how often the Japan Time Zone has been googled, new bubble forming.



1075. Post 5245758 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

Quote from: delphic on February 19, 2014, 10:03:15 PM
...waiting for price to rocket around like a pinball on the Gox announcement...
Edit: with Guinness beer in hand.
Has Gox actually given a date when trading will start again?

Or even a date when it will announce a date when trading will start again?

All I thought was due was an 'update', probably at COB Tokyo time seeing how Gox likes to delay everything.


So they haven't halted trading as far as I know. So withdrawals may re-open as early as tomorrow or ...12 hrs from now near 7-8pm Japan Time currently 5 past 7 in the morning there.



1076. Post 5245898 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

Quote from: dreamspark on February 19, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
What do you think of this.

Gox is still sending fiat withdrawals, there have been people receiving them throughout this time they have halted btc withdrawals.

If they are insolvent, would that not be in breach of Japanese law ?


People are mad cause they're further than the next person behind in line. I don't think that they've ever fully stop processing fiat withdrawals. However this is all just info I am picking and choosing to remember lol



1077. Post 5246958 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

Quote from: explorer on February 19, 2014, 11:04:26 PM
So how long has CaVirtex been offering LTC?

a few hours

It was nice to hear that opposed to Cad regulations coming down on us.



1078. Post 5252151 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

3-4 hrs to the usual announcement time , I don't think I can sleep when this kind of shit could be the story that causes the biggest green candle I've ever seen.



1079. Post 5252227 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

This is becoming like an epic game of limbo



1080. Post 5253000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

mtgox is facilitating one of the biggest rapes on weak hands



1081. Post 5253046 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

12k coins .. at these price levels ow my body hurts for these people



1082. Post 5255564 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

after reading that.. that should have been posted at the opening of the fucking day. GOXXED US YET AGAIN LOL



1083. Post 5255680 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.13h):

Quote from: Mythul on February 20, 2014, 10:53:45 AM
any news from Gox ?

ya that they need more time lol



1084. Post 5257221 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):

Let's all chill out, let them fix it. I think it is highly likely they'll have a better descriptor of what is going on tomorrow.

I do find it funny that the insider traders didn't dump just after the announcement maximum effect Cheesy



1085. Post 5258846 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):

Quote from: barbs on February 20, 2014, 01:58:10 PM
Can we get a poll about what people who have btc trapped on gox are doing ?

Like my btc on gox was

1. Sold at 140 and I'm in fiat
2. Bought in with remaining goxbux balance
3. Taken by unicorns which mark is riding to the moon

 dude if you were going to sell ... I mean where were you at 450... most everyone, including those not on gox saw this coming.

I mean I guess if you fear the double digits and wanna double your btc holdings if that occurred it's a bit more understandable but still quite a serious risk best of luck with that.

edit: especially considering you we're mentioning not moving back in till it hit $1000 in a different post

edit2: tried to remove un needed negativity lol



1086. Post 5259131 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.14h):

Quote from: Richard Branson on February 20, 2014, 02:09:41 PM
Why would anyone buy goxcoin on bitcoinbuilder when they can just wire money to Gox and buy at a much lower price? I mean if you want to buy lottery tickets, at least don't over pay for them.
Because it takes 10 days for their international bank wire.

10 days? Crap like this is why we need bitcoin in the first place.

24-48h with SEPA.

Bitcoin is not faster. First you have to buy them and the other part hast to exchange them back to local currency.
Problem is: In most countries converting btc to fiat is not that easy.

IMO its obvious Billy was hinting at the fact once we finally switch to btc in everyday purchasing there will be no swapping it for dirty fiat paper. Also eliminating waiting 10 days to transfer wealth

edit: oh I just realized how hard Branson was trolling when I read the following posts...he thinks an exchange that is experiencing severe difficulties managing fiat/btc withdrawals is a bubble popping. I wonder which categories he falls into in that recent study of internet trolls describes.



1087. Post 5274881 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 21, 2014, 03:30:53 AM
Do whales get nervous -- in either the literal or idiomatic sense?

I'd have thought due to his size (physical or financial) he would simply shrug and swim on.

Bitcoin is down around $150 in one week. If you had 10000 BTC (by no means a proper whale amount), that is $150K less value you have. Considering some of these guys had next to nothing before they invested/mined in Bitcoin, I would suggest that such shrinkage in nominal value leaves many large scale holders of Bitcoin with quite an uneasy feeling in their guts. Perhaps they would have to work 5 years in their day jobs to earn this sort of money. Now, it looks like Bitcoin is going to go another $150 lower sooner or later.....so if you had 10K BTC, and were considering that possibility, what might you want to do with at least some of your stash, assuming Bitcoin wasn't just an amusing gamble on the side to take your mind of your hedge funds and vaults full of gold bullion?


Check your math. Tongue


LOL. What MtC can't seem to understand is that long term hodlers have been hardened by many many such times as these. If we were the sort that bailed when we got uneasy feelings in our guts, we wouldn't have all our coins in the first place. Now we just see opportunity to get MOAR.


Yeah I see a large divide between those who want to earn more coins by playing the ebb-flow of the market for example Seleme, ( I normally see him bullish as fuck but will sodl or short in times of uncertainty) and those who would just deposit more fiat and buy up cheap coins.

I've opted to start out with a veteran whale holder mentality, harden by looking at all the past crashes and the volume back in the 0.1 to 0.01 crash this market is emerging there is going to be growing pains, past doesn't predict the future, but we can gather some intel or insight to the psychology of panic sellers, and frankly this recent action seems full of them. I know there are plenty selling to buy back in lower, but I know there is more just panicking like lil headless chickens.

edit: bitstamp seems to have a semi firm bottom at 530 ish Cheesy

I've heard it mentioned.. but where the fudge can I see a updated log trend line chart...ty



1088. Post 5274970 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: OldGeek on February 21, 2014, 04:53:11 AM
...snip... but I know there is more just panicking like lil headless chickens.

I agree, Davy.  I think part of it is that those chickens didn't really have a plan in the first place.  They simply saw a profit potential and jumped in.

My initial planning was really buy and hold.. and I've pretty much done that.. It is much easier to stick to this plan, though I do admit greed really had me wanting to pre-sell on some of this news but I don't like fleecing others which is apart of the reason I am not wealthier as it is.

I plan to sell when 1% can pay of the initial investment LOL as crazy as it sounds it is more likely than not going to be possible within 2 years.




1089. Post 5275292 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: OldGeek on February 21, 2014, 05:11:55 AM
@Davyd05

Not sure this is what you need, but...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464194.0

This works, thanks.



1090. Post 5275331 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: virtualfaqs on February 21, 2014, 05:31:07 AM
We have ignition over at MtSux.  The western exchanges are believers.

Bulltrap?  Grin

my guess, loading up on some coins before another round of dumping to hit the double digis.. why would manipulators stop now iwth this level of fud circulating



1091. Post 5275390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: creekbore on February 21, 2014, 05:35:44 AM
Any news?

Insider getting ahead of the market?

I mean we can speculate those early moves where insider info but there isn't going to be a confirmation of this. However taking that in stride at what point do we consider this a breakout.. caused by insider info and the action of that insider.



1092. Post 5275907 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yilnh/proof_mtgox_is_working_on_fix/

I haven't clicked any of the URLs but I think this could be some strong bull FUD



1093. Post 5275943 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: medialab101 on February 21, 2014, 06:36:10 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yilnh/proof_mtgox_is_working_on_fix/

I haven't clicked any of the URLs but I this could be some strong bull FUD


Was just about to post that...

Oh, how I want to believe

I would assume it can be back checked somewhat.. and or dis proven pretty quickly though

I do recognize the ntxid syntax from one of their statements.



1094. Post 5276434 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

We starting a pool on the next update time frame from gox Friday 7pm Japan?



1095. Post 5276585 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: OldGeek on February 21, 2014, 07:26:28 AM
We starting a pool on the next update time frame from gox Friday 7pm Japan?


Do you mean a real update or the science fiction we've been getting?



To be honest I consider it to be accurate ... just not timely..



1096. Post 5276711 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

they've beenin the 7-9pm jpy time I believe in this time of crisis Cheesy



1097. Post 5277076 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: creekbore on February 21, 2014, 08:16:51 AM
Japanese policeman on protestors , asking license to protest..

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mtgox-protest

Watch live now

bonkers!!!

I like his calmness in explaining his stance



1098. Post 5277575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

the goxing hour is upon us, an hour out and oddly it hasn't crashed in to double digits ... bodes well for Friday Cheesy and Saturday



1099. Post 5278583 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: spin on February 21, 2014, 10:15:19 AM
Today on #bitcoin

gmaxwell: wumpus: yea, I understand they had timed automatic reissues... Sad this was also something I didn't know prior to monday before last and is one of the other reasons my "they couldn't have lost much!" position softened to "I have no freeking clue."
alpha125: gmaxwell: where did you find out abotu the automatic reissues?
gmaxwell: alpha125: from mtgox staff and magicaltux ... I had assumed previously that any reissues were manual via customer support but apparently it was just timed.
gmaxwell: you'll also note that they've kept increasing their fees and then even mad paying fees mandatory.
gmaxwell: This suggested to me that they totally misunderstood their problems. (and— I reported that I believed this months ago too)
gmaxwell: e.g. they noticed lots of txn getting stuck, they didn't understand it was because they were producing invalid txn (even though it was reported to them) and so they thought it was just 'full blocks'
gmaxwell: and they increased their fees from 0.0001 to 0.0005 — which was enough to may more than virtually every txn— and then later to 0.001 which is basically astronomic. And then they made it mandatory.
gmaxwell: of course their stalled txn had nothing to do with fees.

They must be empty...

nice fud Cheesy



1100. Post 5279790 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: atleticofa on February 21, 2014, 11:43:31 AM
I'm fucking TIRED of MTGOX!!!


Declare bankruptcy, or accept withdrawals again. But do something!!!!

This uncertainty is fatal to Bitcoin and confidence of the people.

They are implementing a new tx system.. they don't want to repeat a mistake they've already committed in the past. I can only assume people would prefer them not to rush it and botch it.

This doesn't pose a risk to bitcoin...this just shows people to demand better service, I researched every exchange before choosing where to trade.



1101. Post 5282901 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: fcmatt on February 21, 2014, 03:16:51 PM
Today on #bitcoin

gmaxwell: wumpus: yea, I understand they had timed automatic reissues... Sad this was also something I didn't know prior to monday before last and is one of the other reasons my "they couldn't have lost much!" position softened to "I have no freeking clue."
alpha125: gmaxwell: where did you find out abotu the automatic reissues?
gmaxwell: alpha125: from mtgox staff and magicaltux ... I had assumed previously that any reissues were manual via customer support but apparently it was just timed.
gmaxwell: you'll also note that they've kept increasing their fees and then even mad paying fees mandatory.
gmaxwell: This suggested to me that they totally misunderstood their problems. (and— I reported that I believed this months ago too)
gmaxwell: e.g. they noticed lots of txn getting stuck, they didn't understand it was because they were producing invalid txn (even though it was reported to them) and so they thought it was just 'full blocks'
gmaxwell: and they increased their fees from 0.0001 to 0.0005 — which was enough to may more than virtually every txn— and then later to 0.001 which is basically astronomic. And then they made it mandatory.
gmaxwell: of course their stalled txn had nothing to do with fees.

Edit: Just to clarify, only quoted relevant parts (maybe I should have inserted "[...]" where applicable). Full text here: http://pastebin.com/DaSph9uT

that and its an unverified pastebin



1102. Post 5283253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

looks like the market is starting to smell the pastebin news Cheesy

gox being as silent as they have been in a time with this much panic, leaves me hoping they have everybody working on the fix Cheesy



1103. Post 5284150 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

The uncertainty is neck high Cheesy



1104. Post 5292366 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 22, 2014, 02:09:12 AM
AH HA!
clearly oversold

what do you say to that Mr IHaveNoBitcoins.  Cheesy
I say that I was somewhat embarassed by the failed prediction, but I will stubbornly carry on until the Chinese learn to pay attention to my postings.  Wink

I think most of your predictions would have been close, I was tagging on a prediction usually higher than yours Cheesy but both times I think FUD hit the markets and it rippled hard, well btc withdrawals we're halted Cheesy lol




1105. Post 5292882 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

I don't see how people are posting that sepa withdrawals are being processed, yet many are still screaming insolvency Cheesy



1106. Post 5293009 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: Arcas on February 22, 2014, 03:16:49 AM
I don't see how people are posting that sepa withdrawals are being processed, yet many are still screaming insolvency Cheesy
Shhhh... My wire doesn't arrive until Monday. MtGox can be solvent after Monday.  Grin

Cheesy best of luck I wish I had a verified account with gox, even a 1000 can become something significant quite quickly Cheesy



1107. Post 5294214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: Peter R on February 22, 2014, 05:37:09 AM
There must be a bunch of people like Jorge who are fascinated by bitcoin, feel they learned about it too late, realize that it could go much higher, but are presently skeptical and feel it is a bad investment now.  The next growth spurt begins when we pass the previous all-time-high and these people buy in, realizing that bitcoin may have just become a good investment all of a sudden.  

I definitely went through that, in April 2013.  Embarrassing, in retrospect.  I was on the cypherpunks list in 1994 for Pete's sake!  I should have mined block 79.  But life got in the way.  When I first heard about bitcoin in 2009 I put off investigating because I was so overworked.  That continued until the press covered the April spike.
Then I hit it hard, but I made all the classic mistakes.  Just a little more conviction and a few less missteps and I'd have (at least) an order of magnitude more coins than I do today.  Perhaps Jorge will feel the same way about his x20 smaller treasure one day.

Today I would counsel people to get in during capitulation.  Catch the knife.  DCA.  Whatever.  Just get in.  Watch your fiat burn.  Pay no attention to it.  Just stack coins. It's not like fiat is going to do you any good anyhow.  But if you get crazy rich, you can actually change the world for the better.


I think most here can share stories about how we could have had so many more coins, had we been more proactive/open-minded/etc/etc.  

Believe it or not, my mom sent me a link to a story about bitcoin from some obscure "new age" website in the spring of 2010!  She "wanted to buy $100 just in case."  

I was too arrogant to even read the article!  

I couldn't haggle the price down 20-30 bucks on the 5970s on craiglist and gave up on making a miner. wasn't even thinking about direct speculation.. have to really observe all aspects of an opportunity.



1108. Post 5294954 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: bangersdad on February 22, 2014, 07:18:14 AM
So the question is will the off switch be used....or will it grind down to $0

why would they off switch it? I can't wait for the next update, sitting here waiting for a rocket to blast off.



1109. Post 5294996 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: OldGeek on February 22, 2014, 07:22:28 AM
So the question is will the off switch be used....or will it grind down to $0

A good question.

I've been watching the gox show for a few days, and I have convinced myself that the panic of the first days is gone.  So, then, why all of the selling?  The market sells were so efficient that I begin to wonder if someone, could be a group, wants the price to tank.

The questions then become, who and why?

panic seems to grow if you allow someone to sow that seed in your brain. I have a garden of buy hodl it is quite cheery.



1110. Post 5295005 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: surfer43 on February 22, 2014, 07:24:41 AM
So the question is will the off switch be used....or will it grind down to $0

A good question.

I've been watching the gox show for a few days, and I have convinced myself that the panic of the first days is gone.  So, then, why all of the selling?  The market sells were so efficient that I begin to wonder if someone, could be a group, wants the price to tank.

The questions then become, who and why?
The group is: everyone
The reason is: buy at a lower price and profit

I said it earlier, it is a giant game of limbo (how low can you go!), then it will be a rocket to mars.



1111. Post 5296489 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: creekbore on February 22, 2014, 09:52:14 AM
I notice on bitcoinwisdom Gox is now last on the list of important prices atop the page behind LTC/US on btc-e.
That's an interesting move.

the world is tired with the drama they're bringing



1112. Post 5297859 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.15h):

Quote from: fonzie on February 22, 2014, 11:49:53 AM
Bitcoin is really a mindblowing system. I tried to order a pizza with bitpay, after 15 min the payment still hasn´t arrived and i got the message "invoice expired".
So my money is gone and i got no pizza. Outstanding.

How can you order a Pizza with bitcoins if you have zero bitcoins? You always amaze me!

I have a lots of money on the exchanges(leveraging(shorting) with USD) , so i thought i could take the risk and exchange 20$ into Bitcoin without having to fear that Bitcoin would fall to 0 in the next 10 minutes. Cheesy
Lesson learned. I even sent the BTC to my blockchain account first as i am aware of the fact that payments through exchanges can be delayed. I´m sad for Bitcoin.
And once again it has proven that BTC future doesn´t look bright Cry Cry Cry

and my dad nearly broke his iPad trying to add certain items to the online order but couldn't due to a glitch in the mobile ordering site, there are always hiccups in technology, but when it gets to adoption I am sure it'll be smooth sailing.



1113. Post 5302468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.16h):

CCMF going to Niagara Falls for a buddies bday, hopefully my data keeps me updated on the train or traps Cheesy



1114. Post 5334420 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.17h):

Quote from: jl2012 on February 24, 2014, 10:35:38 AM
I'm suprised there haven't been more of these types of walls all along. They used to be normal, and then disappeared in July. The mtgox orderbook used to have 200K COINS on it during bear markets. Bitstamp currently has only roughly 20K coins. If Bitstamp is becoming the major exchange and then rest of the exchanges are either dying off or being proven to have fake volume, then I should expect bitstamp to be at least somewhat more like mtgox used to be. For example 80K coins on the book might be appropriate.

It's simply because bitcoin worth a lot more now, so people are not taking the risk to put too many on an exchange. The value of the ask wall (in terms of USD) is not that low.

Go re-read his post about why he thinks the valuation doesn't factor in to this question.

However I agree the hodlers have bought eveything lool



1115. Post 5335009 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.17h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ysaz2/sarahcoinbit_from_mtgox_support_says_there_is_no/

I mean I don't know how much this will quell panic but it is but a glimmer of hope



1116. Post 5335522 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.17h):

Quote from: Rannasha on February 24, 2014, 11:32:58 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ysaz2/sarahcoinbit_from_mtgox_support_says_there_is_no/

I mean I don't know how much this will quell panic but it is but a glimmer of hope

Meh, an IRC message from a support agent. Not sure how much weight that carries. If I were running a company that faced similar issues, I'd be screaming from the rooftops that all funds are safe, because in a situation like this, that is exactly what customers want to hear. Unless of course, funds are not safe...

see screaming we're not insolvent and etc etc. is more of a sign of a dying company. It is important cause I am sure she's knows the coins are fine and spends her time dealing with pissed off customers who ask her the same set of questions and act like she can speed up those in mtgox making management style decisions related to when they've completed and adequate withdrawal revamp. and or tech side implementing the solutions



1117. Post 5340379 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: oda.krell on February 24, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
You gotta love how MR. Civility shows he's just as vulgar as the rest of us when he's almost right. Congrats, Bro. Now you're still wrong and you have no moral high ground. I've made more fiat, more BTC, and shown you to be a hypocrite. If that's what it takes to be a dumb fuck, I'll take it.

You have taken over a 50% haircut on your total worth in the past 2 months u fkn loser, which kind of proves your good fortune has been entirely based on luck.

Why don't u just STFU and finally stop embarrassing yourself?

Don't know about Mr Allen, but where do you get it from that because we're in a bear market your total worth has to have taken a 50% hair cut?

regardless I don't think Billy was a full holder or hodler like my self, and my net worth didn't halve lol



1118. Post 5340567 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: kkaspar on February 24, 2014, 04:46:55 PM
You don't get it. Bitcoin's success won't be determined by fraudsters, hackers, the media, regulators or the Bitcoin foundation. This only determines the speed of adoption. It only allows smart money to get in at a lower price, improvements of the code, increased transparency and diversification of exchanges which will stabilize things in the future. Almost everything that is bad for Bitcoin the the short term makes it better in the long run. It doesn't even matter if some other cryptocurrency takes top spot. Ten years from no when there is still less than 20 million bitcoin and world population is over 12 billion, it will be worth much more than now.

What you don't get is that the bitcoin code is not special as an invention, but it is special as an innovation. Meaning that it can be copied and improved easily. Meaning it's just a matter of time when it will get replaced.
Only reason why it hasn't been replaced yet is that there are no serious teams with experience and financial backing. Most altcoins are made by students and hobbyists, just for the fun of it. So, it's not hard to understand why there isn't any serious competition yet.
But the time will come, because this idea is an important step in the evolution of finance. To create an transparent open sourced monetary system that is supported by the internet. Bitcoin is too simplistic and childish to fill the shoes of that idea. If bitcoin would have faster development, then I would believe that bitcoin could evolve enough to fit the spot. But to me, it's more probable, that a more capable team will pick up this idea and make something that is better and developing faster.

You clearly have no clue what kind of money is being put in to developing bitcoins business infrastructure. Open source code like this doesn't foster persay private industry development because they can't patent and or sell the code as their own. However bitcoin is inadvertently being funded by all of us when we help build its infrastructure.



1119. Post 5341016 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: kkaspar on February 24, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
You clearly have no clue what kind of money is being put in to developing bitcoins business infrastructure. Open source code like this doesn't foster persay private industry development because they can't patent and or sell the code as their own. However bitcoin is inadvertently being funded by all of us when we help build its infrastructure.

So, you see that good old "it's too big to fail" will hold up bitcoin.
You clearly have no clue that by building support services, then you are not dependent on bitcoin and you can jump cryptos with relatively easy reconfiguration. It's smart, because this idea has potential and they don't have to worry if bitcoin fails. There will always be a better coin, that can be pumped and marketed.
Creating a new coin has a lot of marketing value. If google would create a free open sourced coin, then it would profit enough from everyone calling it as "googlecoin". Open sourced project could be funded for advertisement perks.
I think that Bitcoins pride and joy is Armory, that makes bitcoin different from other alts. Armory is the program that let's you store your coins with cold wallet security and relative comfort at the same time. For instance, if someone would adopt Armory to an altcoin, then that altcoin would probably go to da m00n.
If someone can create a secure system with even better speed, usability and stability, for another coin. Then that coin would probably overtake bitcoin soon.
Currently the market is raw and stupid, and the price is 95% made up from hype. But in the future the quality of code will decide the winner coin.
This idea is important, so bitcoin will be facing some though competition.

no they're building bitcoin infrastructure not googlecoin infrastructure..( some of this is proprietary). It has nothing do with being to big to fail.. its just we're strengthening it by making use of it in business.



1120. Post 5341601 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: kkaspar on February 24, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
But Bitcoin is a protocol and therefore it is more sensible to compare it to the history of other protocols rather than computer games?

To an extent I agree I do not think this is a Higlander scenario

There can be more than one

Bitcoin is different from protocols because it does have a very specific unit price.
Imagine if e-mail would have been created in a way that later adopters have to fill the pockets of early adopters, so they can also send an e-mail. People wouldn't accept this and would create an alternative where everyone has a fair chance with using this protocol.
So, in my idea, bitcoin is not neutral enough to be called an protocol. Gaming suits better to it, especially with the amount of gambling that's happening at the markets.


derp we already have multiple types of crypto. Doesn't change the fact bitcoin has the most money flowing in to development



1121. Post 5348457 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 24, 2014, 11:26:51 PM
*patiently waiting for the right moment to strike*

now?  Huh

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77745633839/bitcoins-apocalyptic-moment-mt-gox-may-have-lost sorry more GOX FUD

this guy better fucking release the dam draft and proof ,then we can all watch flames engulf gox


Sounds like he loaded a needle up with FUD and injected it in to a vein located in his anus.



1122. Post 5348670 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 24, 2014, 11:45:09 PM
*patiently waiting for the right moment to strike*

now?  Huh

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77745633839/bitcoins-apocalyptic-moment-mt-gox-may-have-lost sorry more GOX FUD

this guy better fucking release the dam draft and proof ,then we can all watch flames engulf gox


Sounds like he loaded a needle up with FUD and injected it in to a vein located in his anus.

Love your description lol.

Years of unnoticed theft and a leak in the wallet? Looolll fududududududud

i think at most the damage is 50K coins.

would gox bildinly start refilling there hot wallet daily without thinking maybe its a hacker...

they can be that bad...... OHHHHHHHH shit i'm scared

I went out there with my description because of lines like this "The cold storage has been wiped out due to a leak in the hot wallet" this boggles my brain...




1123. Post 5349011 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

I personally hold this local drop over the two bit idiot.. the dump looks like panic sells lol gox ain't even scurred lol they' could be at 91 dollars by now lol



1124. Post 5349187 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: MAbtc on February 25, 2014, 12:20:17 AM
Whoa Gox. Almost 3k coins in the last 5 minutes.  Shocked

you haven't see the two bit idiot post have you?



1125. Post 5349263 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: MAbtc on February 25, 2014, 12:22:24 AM
Whoa Gox. Almost 3k coins in the last 5 minutes.  Shocked

you haven't see the two bit idiot post have you?

The 750k coin thing? Anything to it?

it reakes of FUD, claims to have an internal gox document where he quotes things like setting bitcoin back 5-10 years and being bankrupt at any moment lol



1126. Post 5349376 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

lol where is the fear coming from IT is strong now.



1127. Post 5349639 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 12:47:39 AM
I heard that Satoshi is dumping his stash and that Mark is the real Satoshi.

Something tells me that Satoshi has quietly sold his stash off-market and now he has only academic interest in bitcoin. He is no longer an owner, not a trader, and he is rather skeptical of its longterm success.

creates revolutionary protocol, sells out early to watch it academically even though he backed away from the project and or doesn't exist as he could be a shared nickname for a group of cryptographers.

think youre sniffing to much sharpie or permanent marker while drawing charts on a white board or something.



1128. Post 5349678 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: kurious on February 25, 2014, 12:51:02 AM
Who's calling the bottom?  Any TA experts brave enough to call it?

as soon as that fucking FUD bomb is disproven if it isn't then my bet is testing gox's true there will be blood, ( going be lawsuits bottom )



1129. Post 5350579 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

new fud dropped same guy.

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77760399932/update-on-mt-gox-this-document-appears-to-be i don't want to click the link and see the document



1130. Post 5350613 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on February 25, 2014, 02:02:46 AM
new fud dropped same guy.

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77760399932/update-on-mt-gox-this-document-appears-to-be i don't want to click the link and see the document


read that, and it looks 2 bit.. if thats a gox put together report so help us god people are really fucked. If I was a journalist no way in hell I post that weak as shit.



1131. Post 5350621 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 25, 2014, 02:04:46 AM
new fud dropped same guy.

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77760399932/update-on-mt-gox-this-document-appears-to-be i don't want to click the link and see the document


this guy must of sold all when he saw the wall.

naw Adam Imma full hodler, there is nothing that can break my resolve. not even the Persian army



1132. Post 5350700 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 25, 2014, 02:07:09 AM
new fud dropped same guy.

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77760399932/update-on-mt-gox-this-document-appears-to-be i don't want to click the link and see the document


this guy must of sold all when he saw the wall.

naw Adam Imma full hodler, there is nothing that can break my resolve. not even the Persian army

i mean the guy dropping the clearly made up fud



oh I'm so on edge you can tell Cheesy FUD is one helluva drug. On to my FUD TA

Arbitrage, coins donation, coins for equity, cash for buying coins at MtGox price this is part 1 of their strategy to commit an illegal act ...and buy their own coins. no way in fucking hell they let this leak lol. GG this guys account was probably hacked or the greatest troll ever is occurring.



1133. Post 5350784 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: 7thKingdom on February 25, 2014, 02:16:28 AM
Stamp buying into the fud

Back down to 505

This guy deserves to lose his Job. IMO perfect FUD drop before the bring withdrawals on line.



1134. Post 5350875 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: 7thKingdom on February 25, 2014, 02:19:21 AM
Gox still relying on blockchain for that temp fix (whatever it was they did)?  Cause blockchain is currently down for maintenance.  Would explain the stoppage on gox.

at the least If they halted the trading cause they want to write a 30 minute brief to prove that document is a real as the unicorn stable I run, I'd be satisfied. This guy is claiming that its leaked from gox and multiple vetted these numbers. It is actually something to address.



1135. Post 5350980 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 25, 2014, 02:20:33 AM
I  am not convinced that it is a fake.  I think it could be real.

4 Parts Strategy is a header in that pos doc. what did we get the first draft?



1136. Post 5351117 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Someone is claiming that the 7th page which looks like a balance sheet that has been censored, I guess when downloaded you can delete the censoring lol.. and see the made up numbers.. but at the same time I dont want to dl that pos lol



1137. Post 5351468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

this is what was behind the censored parts apparently

http://cl.ly/image/2L043C464030



1138. Post 5351653 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on February 25, 2014, 03:05:01 AM
this is what was behind the censored parts apparently

http://cl.ly/image/2L043C464030

this could all be BS

I thought so... so coinbase is acting like that info is real.. I dunno men.. that coinbase FUD ended the bull trap



1139. Post 5351972 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

Quote from: Vigil on February 25, 2014, 03:29:50 AM
I'm still not convinced.  I need to see hard proof, not some blog post.
Gox just removed their website.

and the gasoline has been poured...



1140. Post 5352177 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.18h):

At least in Almost Human they again reference bitcoin, in fact a physical building that is a bitcoin exchange



1141. Post 5358752 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

I am amazed that we didn't set record lows while I slept.

I am also equally amazed that gox is stupid enough to not be the first person to put out the statement related to their own situation. I imagine they have their heads stuck in the sand.



1142. Post 5358876 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

This market seems un naturally strong right now.. the Chinese news in Dec was not as bad IMO.

Are people buying cause they think there is nearly 1/12 th of btc missing from the market possibly spread across hackers or one thief.


I also think current lows we're achieved by people pricing in a failure of gox.



1143. Post 5358908 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: lebing on February 25, 2014, 10:42:56 AM
I am amazed that we didn't set record lows while I slept.

I am also equally amazed that gox is stupid enough to not be the first person to put out the statement related to their own situation. I imagine they have their heads stuck in the sand.

the PR on mtgox has been so horrible for so long, I am never surprised at the idiocy there.

750k coins gone however? That requires a new level of retardation.



That sums it up for me... It is literally dumbfoundingly amazing... I am almost certain my grade 10 business class would've prepared me to manage Gox better than it has been.



1144. Post 5358939 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: mmitech on February 25, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
I think that 400 was your bottom, and in the next couple of days we will start a rally up



Fucking two weeks of saying I need to send fiat to the exchange.. ( sorry I am just a fucking HODLER even gox couldn't shake me in to greed plays ) not to mention telling all my friends who wanted in around 400 they needed to the same. Ahhhhh well life's a cabaret my friends.



1145. Post 5359204 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

^
^
lol there is the infamous cold wallet leak lol



1146. Post 5359826 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Until a proper statement get published I think we'll be filling the order people had waitin gin the lower 5s and 4s possibly.. Right now we seem to have decent bunch that think 500 is fair price.



1147. Post 5360729 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: prof7bit on February 25, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
How can they still trade without being able to move goxBTC between users or are they only trading imaginary goxBTC instead of realgoxBTC? Will there soon be yet another market on top of this where one can trade bitcoinbuilder account balances for BTC?

This is a question I have, I am surprised no 1 is talking more about the document in which they describe the most illegal tactic of buying coins at gox prices.. ergo buying coins off of their own exchange lol..



1148. Post 5361193 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvy2t/gox_has_announced_acquisition_statement_tomorrow/cfo862t

13:35 < Mantrid> Gox.com
13:35 < Mantrid> 5 minutes ago
13:35 < Mantrid> We are in a process of being acquired, at the current time I am not
                 in the position to give you further information. I can only reassure
                 you, that your funds are securely kept in our cold storage.
13:35 < Mantrid> An official statement is to be released tomorrow.

anyone in the #mtgox-chat ?

I am so lost as to how GOX HASN'T SAID ANYTHING ( in official channels) THE FUCK is wrong with their management.

Did the Japanese make the hari kari themselves?



1149. Post 5361349 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: TERA on February 25, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvy2t/gox_has_announced_acquisition_statement_tomorrow/cfo862t

13:35 < Mantrid> Gox.com
13:35 < Mantrid> 5 minutes ago
13:35 < Mantrid> We are in a process of being acquired, at the current time I am not
                 in the position to give you further information. I can only reassure
                 you, that your funds are securely kept in our cold storage.
13:35 < Mantrid> An official statement is to be released tomorrow.

anyone in the #mtgox-chat ?

I am so lost as to how GOX HASN'T SAID ANYTHING ( in official channels) THE FUCK is wrong with their management.

Did the Japanese make the hari kari themselves?
Who is Mantrid? He's not an OP in irc.

as I re-read it looks like he's relying whatever was hosted on the gox.com which could have been  hijacked in theory and or is really where they plan to move to. The thing is if this is just a social engineering ploy it would make sense that the scribd doc + gox.com would have something of this relation going up to further it... but if that scribd document is the quality of work Gox put out on a regular basis it is no surprise that they're a huge failure.  That thing would not get a D minus on a good day. Being an international company means you can't put out fucking shit releases like that ...whiie making millions in exchange fees. Have some standards.



1150. Post 5361548 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: macsga on February 25, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
From a sane point of view, a million customer company just doesn't VANISH out of thin air and hopes it gets away with it. No speculative intentions here but I 'm willing to wait some more and won't panic at the moment.

Cheers.

The problem is...a monkey would know to put some text on keyboard or leave the webpage with a statement instead of a blank white page, with a cryptic message in the source view.

I do right now feel like the scribd + gox.com + facebook evidence are just apart of the greatest attempt at social engineering FUD I've ever seen.



1151. Post 5361691 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: gizmoh on February 25, 2014, 01:13:46 PM
<+ne0futur> seriously i fear the 750k could be true

says Mark's 10 yr old friend and Op on irc  

I assume that will be MtGox defense in court..

It wouldn't surprise me, the fact that they haven't briefed all channels of communications with a set statement leads me to believe MK is on a search for cold storage safes Cheesy



1152. Post 5361965 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: mmitech on February 25, 2014, 01:19:53 PM
No thats off IRC no reddit

mmmm I would say it is fake but I dont know which account he owns as I never paid attention, but if it is the same guy from reddit then it is fake...

Edit: which IRC node BTW ? Gox node is not working for me... is it working for anyone? I tried to join few times but I couldn't.

freenode, I just registered to get in the chat is silent tho..



1153. Post 5362045 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: bitcoinvest on February 25, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
can anyone tell my why this works?  : https://mtgox.zendesk.com/home

edit: i also found my ticket after login

someone posted a pic of the mtgox api still working fine.  Cheesy will someone just fucking clarify some shit for us already.



1154. Post 5362199 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: dreamspark on February 25, 2014, 01:40:51 PM


Edit: which IRC node BTW ? Gox node is not working for me... is it working for anyone? I tried to join few times but I couldn't.

#mtgox-chat Neo +m the official channel

yeah was just @ #mtgox.. magical tux is in there.. so at least we know he isn't pawning his computer to pay off debts



1155. Post 5362421 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: dreamspark on February 25, 2014, 01:51:04 PM


yeah was just @ #mtgox.. magical tux is in there.. so at least we know he isn't pawning his computer to pay off debts

In the official channel? or mtgox-chat ? Cant see him ?? ...

his nick is in #mtgox there is no talking privileges there though



1156. Post 5362554 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: T.Stuart on February 25, 2014, 01:57:52 PM


yeah was just @ #mtgox.. magical tux is in there.. so at least we know he isn't pawning his computer to pay off debts

In the official channel? or mtgox-chat ? Cant see him ?? ...

his nick is in #mtgox there is no talking privileges there though

How do you register to log in?

https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering

/msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com

I registered as mtgoxxx because I wasn't paying attention so change you nick before you register lo l

side note  some1 name cokea is saying he has a recorded call with gonzauge
vocaroo.com/i/s1xFfN3DW66P
have not clue if this link is safe so I un-hyperlinked it, click at you own risk lol.

calls in french. translation is gonzague says dont call my personal line for business inquiries



1157. Post 5362890 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

[09:19] <+ne0futur> since dns have been moved *.mtgox.com is down
[09:19] <+ne0futur> as i understand it

not to much of a far fetched response



1158. Post 5363328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
BitcoinRain was a Brazilian "bitcoin investment fund" that operated from Oct/2011 to Apr/2013.  It took the investor's BTC and promised a minimum 9% monthly return in BTC to them.

BitcoinRain attracted more than 300 investors who deposited more than 15,000 BTC there.

In Mar/2011, when the price of BTC was rallying, one of the investors tried to withdraw 1200 BTC of the 2600+ that he thought he had in the fund.  By its terms, the fund should have done that within 3 days.  The fund operator delayed the withdrawal with technical excuses for 3 days, then told all clients that he had just been hacked and all their coins had been stolen. ˜Sorry, folks."

The story sounds familiar?

The BitcoinRain clients haven't got their BTC back yet, and most likely never will.

The story is told here (in portuguese) by one of their former customers:
http://defendaseudinheiro.com.br/a-verdadeira-historia-do-mercadobitcoin/



yeah Shawn Merrimen did a similar number on the Mormons your point being.. vet the people you in trust with your money.



1159. Post 5363496 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: Nightowlace on February 25, 2014, 02:42:32 PM
I'm in full conspiracy theory mode and will try and post my full thoughts later but if anyone for one second thinks this wasn't 100% planned to drive the price down to a point where they can buy back the debts for pennies on the dollar, tank the price, shake confidence, and take over control of Gox is fooling themselves. Funny how regulation, and a brand new shinny well regulated (probably well taxed) new exchange will be by Second Market is the topic of conversation today.

Buy and hodl the big boys have just implemented a very well planned take over of Botcoin and even though we may see more blood shed in the end those who hodl strong we be wildly rewarded.

You can't legally buy your own exchange's bitcoin to cover losses. On top of that.. if the document and recent body of work is their standard of operations, then no way in hell could they pull that off with out leaving the most obvious trail... in other words I hope they rot in Jail..just wish it was with fiat bankers who committed equally evil scams



1160. Post 5363801 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: finder_keeper on February 25, 2014, 02:55:39 PM
I'm in full conspiracy theory mode and will try and post my full thoughts later but if anyone for one second thinks this wasn't 100% planned to drive the price down to a point where they can buy back the debts for pennies on the dollar, tank the price, shake confidence, and take over control of Gox is fooling themselves. Funny how regulation, and a brand new shinny well regulated (probably well taxed) new exchange will be by Second Market is the topic of conversation today.

Buy and hodl the big boys have just implemented a very well planned take over of Botcoin and even though we may see more blood shed in the end those who hodl strong we be wildly rewarded.

You can't legally buy your own exchange's bitcoin to cover losses. On top of that.. if the document and recent body of work is their standard of operations, then no way in hell could they pull that off with out leaving the most obvious trail... in other words I hope they rot in Jail..just wish it was with fiat bankers who committed equally evil scams

Show me the law that says this.


A fiduciary duty[3] is the highest standard of care at either equity or law. A fiduciary (abbreviation fid) is expected to be extremely loyal to the person to whom he owes the duty (the "principal"): he must not put his personal interests before the duty, and must not profit from his position as a fiduciary, unless the principal consents.

the basis to the idea that You can't run an exchange and then tank it behind the scenes as to buy up all the shares at a lower price in hopes to cover the lost of your shareholders money. The fact you think that idea could be Kosher blows my mind lol

Not to mention its basically insider trading and fraud.



1161. Post 5363919 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on February 25, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
QUESTION:

What is this shit?:

https://twitter.com/gox_com

fake fud ..



1162. Post 5363985 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

My new thought process is any major established financial company can save gox, ( this is the investment ) earn the respect and adoration of those who have been assuming all their btc and fiat are gizzone.

Change the name, introduce the new team, but acquire the customer base Cheesy I would be biting at this opportunity if I was rich as fuck lol



1163. Post 5364390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: CryptStorm on February 25, 2014, 03:24:14 PM

Hi Guys,

Excuse me for not catching up, but did the Strategy Draft from scribd get leaked here, yet (I'm on Foundation, it's there)?

And, holy shit (I 'have' coins on gox). :-(



bump
?

I'm happy to post it, but don't want to repost something so FUDy if it's already in the conversation

It was posted and discussed at length. I think its fake.. the redacted page of what looks to be a balance sheet can be edited when downloaded so you can see the actual numbers.

all in all kudos to all the other exchanges for being on the ball and keeping their customers calm and up to date

FUCK YOU GOX FOR PUTTING A MESSAGE YOU NEEDED TO PUT UP 12hrs ago UP NOW LOL



1164. Post 5364869 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on February 25, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
So, sold, 80% back in Fiat now. I think we will test the 400´s again...

I dunno man.. we just went through a night with no answers halted trading and fud that matched to them closing down and being bankrupt the fact you think something is going to scare the market more surprises me.

If anything if gox releases a non time extending excuse release it might rally on the same panic lol



1165. Post 5365032 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Hey Adam, how bout the fact cavirtex is lower than bitstamp lol

ahh trolled by wisdom.. there rolling out an update Cheesy  ah Cavirtex



1166. Post 5365159 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: TERA on February 25, 2014, 11:36:38 AM


Ok guys I understand the number might not be exact to the dollar and that there are different exchanges which trade at differnet price. I will simplify this for you:  The resistance I am referring to is the 4 hour ema (blue line on wisdom). The price typically does not pass this line until 4 hour MACD goes up. Right now MACD is far from going up. Everyone thinks I pull these numbers out of my ass and they're "random" but actually I have a scientific method for each one...

So stamp is trying to actually break that resistance you discussed, this time at least.



1167. Post 5365241 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: Rampion on February 25, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
The recovery is maxed out for now. It's going to take at least a day to consolidate and break $520 if not longer.

Sure.

Ramp.. he did say consolidate. were' barely to a consolidation. in an hr mtgox could be just gox. could be owned by someone else or could tell us they have no coins Cheesy

let it all play out.. but I will admit Tera is always a tad bit bearish since I've joined the discussion



1168. Post 5365961 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: thezerg on February 25, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
Hearing rumors that gox has been bought out, can't confirm.

Well the rummors were in their html:



acq = acquisition

who would want to buy that crap.. i dont know

I hate to fuel rumors, but this is the speculation forum.  

Pure speculation, but in a logical world, the ONLY buyer would be someone whose reputation could dramatically overwhelm that of Gox.  this organization would suddenly benefit from hundreds of thousands (or whatever) of verified bitcoin accounts.  

An existing bitcoin player would seem undercapitalized.  It would have to be a financial services company.  But it all depends on how much Gox is under-capitalized.  Repairing a couple million dollar shortfall would be nothing to a large company -- in fact it could result in a massive profit if they've been buying Gox coins at the discount.

This would explain the activity on Gox and bitcoinbuilder -- it might be illegal and unethical for Gox to buy their own coins for 100 bucks, but I think that it would not be for agent X who (for example) buys 90% of the Gox coins trading at 5-20% of other exchanges, then turns around and buys the company for keep-me-out-of-jail prices.





I keep bringing this up.. YOU CAN'T BUY COINS THAT DON'T EXIST, If the balance in an account is but a mere placeholder no one has really bought any coins.. just the statement that says the would've if they existed Cheesy

I however subscribe to a world where they didn't lose nearly 10% of the markets coins by ignorant and negligent. However not going to be surprised if we get goxxed.



1169. Post 5366057 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.19h):

Quote from: wobber on February 25, 2014, 04:37:08 PM
This is interesting to me, the divergence between price highs (descending) and MACD highs (ascending) on the 4H chart continues to build. Any other TA guys notice this and wonder how it might play out in the face of the continued Gox BS? Normally it would suggest a strong chance of a large rally.




Large rally while we're on a stong downtrend? How?

trend reversal due to no more worries about being goxxed. But alas that doesn't seem likely



1170. Post 5367533 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
Obviously so.  But what about an investment that promises a 10,000% return in 3 years?

Excuse me? What investment is promising 10,000% returns in 3 years? Please source.

You are trying very hard to embarass yourself, Mr. Stelfi - again and again and again.


Whoa, sorry, the hood fit again, Mr. Bitcoinraimpion?

Seriously, relax, I was not referring to you specifically.  In fact I have no idea of who you are and what you promise to your clients, if you have any.  


He was addressing your fail attempt at linking bitcoin to some person who would offer financial service with promised returns far above anything attainable

He then points out when did Bitcoin tell people if you invest in me I'll go up by 10,000$ over 3 years.

Clearly you don't know when your comments look like 100% troll.. and in my opinion they we're and stand by Rampion's comment.

You're starting to look like a jack ass



1171. Post 5367668 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: bull1692 on February 25, 2014, 05:45:37 PM


Any company that uses a  Wink is not legit.

this is a troll account.. are you not up on things.



1172. Post 5367771 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
Clearly you don't know when your comments look like 100% troll.. and in my opinion they we're and stand by Rampion's comment.
Your starting to look like a jack ass

All I know is that Mr. whatever himself wrote in a previous post that he knew Bitcoinrain's owner personally, and defended him.

What I don understand is why he still calls me "Mr. Stelfi".

I checked his posts don't see anything like what your reporting.. as in him defending the owner of the scamming Latin American fund.



1173. Post 5368643 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
I checked his posts don't see anything like what your reporting.. as in him defending the owner of the scamming Latin American fund.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg5313572#msg5313572

been going at that one for 2 days, and yet again he helped you get the facts straight.



1174. Post 5368980 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 25, 2014, 06:40:48 PM
he helped you get the facts straight.

You too know for a fact that that providential just-in-time theft was real?

I am not saying it's fact, he's sharing...used the acronym AFAIK, meaning he isn't saying it's going on the blockchain as fact.

Rampion gave more first hand knowledge then either of us have here so I believe, and for a fact in my particular case...so you can speculate on your own assumptions if you like.

So unless you got a post to point towards where some blockchain forensics show something different perhaps, how is this theft any different then inputs.io?

Or Bernie Madoff, I am confused as to what relevance a sociopaths possibly ripping off others that trusted them with money has to do with bitcoin.



1175. Post 5374737 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: jojo69 on February 26, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
@thelema93

[10:58] <JonWickedFire> Is that Crisis Strategy Draft even legit?
[11:04] <MagicalTux> more or less
[11:05] <MagicalTux> as the name suggests it's a draft, and it's a bunch of proposals to deal with the issue at hand, not things that are actually planned and/or done

which channel is this from?

private

 <Herodes> JLR14: The conversation with Mark is made up, to bring wiews to his (JonWickedFire) forum.

most likely a fake conversation lol



1176. Post 5375068 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

lol at blaming coca cola on being fat, not those desert coffees lol

however, the bigger issue is instead of directly releasing a statement on a personal website or twitter. he goes and chooses a fox business reporter...to open up to on irc.. gfg M.K you set new lows every dam day. Today you actually broke your All Time Lows more than once.



1177. Post 5375235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: Dragonkiller on February 26, 2014, 12:44:35 AM
Can confirm cat is Mark's cat and thus conversation is not fake:

http://i.imgur.com/GqZr3N5.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgWb-tk5aek#t=14

CONFIRMED!


Confirmed that the continued uptrend should be a sign that the market says F**K you Gox lol



1178. Post 5375342 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: proudhon on February 26, 2014, 12:59:30 AM
I've got a feeling the market behavior to the MtGox failure will be like the reaction to the Silk Road closure.

I can't believe I am saying this but...yes, yes I do agree sir.

Similarly in this situation Stamp doesn't have to worry bout gox coins dumping on their exchange Cheesy for now Cheesy



1179. Post 5378729 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on February 26, 2014, 05:32:17 AM
hmm is there any posts from virtex saying why?

https://twitter.com/cavirtex

something about a problem when they enabled LTC trading...

if you can find an explicit reason there, please share it.  I can't see the post history (probably 'cuz I'm blocking the scripts), but I'm not a twitter guy so I'm not sure how that stuff works.

I just sent a huge fiat deposit and now this!  I hope it is sorted tomorrow.

They said an hour ago it would be 2 hrs till they expected withdrawal to be live again.



1180. Post 5379106 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on February 26, 2014, 06:15:15 AM
If the price keeps rising much more that (possible) V formation will be toast

I'm expecting the daily news cycle will kick in around 4 hours hence and the news of the Gox subpoenas will send us back down for a while.

The market is saying Gox closure is bullish. Think Silk Road.

I'm pretty sure we're rallying right now off of the fact most people are certain gox is insolvent and being investigated. At the least maybe the last goxxin' ( knock on wood )

Think about it in the perspective of a stamp buyer knowing that if gox turned it back on, they could scoop up coins at price that would be below the current price. No gox arb = time to buy as these are local lows.

If anything I think being 12 from 600 on stamp speaks to this.

Mind you never would be surprised by a bull trap.



1181. Post 5387513 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: fluidjax on February 26, 2014, 03:57:42 PM
What I find amazing it the variation in opinion about Gox.
But, We have almost no facts and information!, everything is guess work based on a couple of lines of text here and there.
Everyone seems to be going down a mental trip, coming up with their own plausible outcome, but its simply fantasy.
Its interesting reading these ideas, and I should think one or two people may get it spot on, but that would be luck, not their Poirot style intellect.


I mean we have possibly non-mtgox but not fake leaked documents that are so crude and shotty that it's left people asking the questions, how could you last this long and or be so bad at business management as to let 750k coins and accumulate 55 million in fiat liabilities.

It simply seems impossible, I can imagine shit went sideways but this is stick my head in the sand like and ostrich and wait for my neck to get cut off stupid.

ooo a lil more buying pressure returning to stamp



1182. Post 5387666 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 26, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Thus, I would be very surprised if MtGOX gets rescued.
I wouldn't be. I made the argument here, although it's a simplistic one:

http://theblogchain.com/2014/02/26/mtgox-is-getting-rescued-by-other-bitcoin-businesses/

Thanks.

I have one nit about your document: you suggest that the company that would rescue MtGOX could buy coins from the other exchanges.  But the coins in the exchanges' wallets do not belong to the exchanges, they belong to their clients.  

In fact, my preferred explanation at the moment for how MtGOX "lost" all those coins is that they sold them off-market in order to play with the cash, confident that they coudl re-purchse them if and when needed; but then the BTC price jumped from 100$ to 800$  in november-december, and they could no longer do that.

So, I think that it would be too risky (if not criminal) for the exchanges to sell those coins to the Save-MtGOX company.  Ditto for any bitcoin investment funds.

Does this make sense?


The best price would be buying coins not on the exchanges. Anybody with ideas that gox was buying their own customers coins on a crash to replenish holdings I guess doesn't believe in fraud, but I am sure the U.S and Japanese government will if they find such info.



1183. Post 5388896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: ag@th0s on February 26, 2014, 05:20:31 PM
Can anyone imagine a scenario in which Gox *could* be revived without it temporarily crashing the price?  Assuming that the losses are not on the scale in the strategy document (big assumption, but I'm not convinced it's real) I can think of a few ways out, but most of them involve FIAT payouts.  If the BTC at Gox were paid out at the closing price ($135) - I can see an incentive for someone to come to the rescue.  

Alternatively is there some way that the existing Bitcoin economy could be used to stagger the re-entry of these coins (assuming they exist) back into the eco-system, so for example if Bitpay was involved in the buy out - could an agreement be reached that they would liquidate Goxbux on receipt of Real BTC - put the Real BTC in escrow and offer staggered release windows where Gox users are offered withdrawal opportunities at some kind of weighted price?  Basically I can see the possiblity of a hookup between existing entities, which could provide benefits to their businesses even if Gox users weren't entirely happy about it.  Can't help wondering what Coinlab's take on thing is - they sure ain't going to get $75 Million out of Gox any other way?

gox damage is done, they crashed the price in to the ground, then they got outted by what was claimed to be an internal doc (made by an external body) that Mark in a irc chat log with imgur cat proof claimed to be "more or less" accurate.

We've priced in their incompetence. Them being revived would only ease the pain of those locked out from their coins and fiat.



1184. Post 5388939 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on February 26, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
There seems to be a lot of psychological projection in your attribution of motives, Jorge. I'm sure there is in my case also, but it reveals something about you.

One reason to believe in the future of bitcoin is that their salesmen are very good at winning the hearts of potential customers and skeptics.  Wink

If you think that only a sick mind could imagine such a scenario, read this, for example:

http://www.assetrecovery.org/kc/node/b7b13256-28f7-11de-900c-81c63910293a.0;jsessionid=9697605F2890DC6814DA990ADC28D28C

I won my last facebook naysayer discussion with these three

 Not looking good in South America
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323951904578292383059267360
or Iran
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444592404578029810117268752

Or you could trust these guys http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanmaglich/2014/02/12/a-ponzi-pandemic-500-ponzi-schemes-totaling-50-billion-in-madoff-era/



1185. Post 5388987 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: bronco on February 26, 2014, 05:29:06 PM
Gox Gox
can somebody explain me why in hell so many ppl kept their coins there after march 2013? I dont know anything about manipulation but wasnt stupid enough to keep coins at gox after march 2013.

lazy, ignorant of warnings, wanted to trade whenever with no wait times.



1186. Post 5389165 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: donut on February 26, 2014, 05:38:39 PM
There seems to be a lot of psychological projection in your attribution of motives, Jorge. I'm sure there is in my case also, but it reveals something about you.

One reason to believe in the future of bitcoin is that their salesmen are very good at winning the hearts of potential customers and skeptics.  Wink

If you think that only a sick mind could imagine such a scenario, read this, for example:

http://www.assetrecovery.org/kc/node/b7b13256-28f7-11de-900c-81c63910293a.0;jsessionid=9697605F2890DC6814DA990ADC28D28C

I won my last facebook naysayer discussion with these three

 Not looking good in South America
http://online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424127887323951904578292...

or Iran
http://online.wsj.com/.../SB10000872396390444592404578029...

Or you could trust these guys http://www.forbes.com/.../a-ponzi-pandemic-500-ponzi.../

None of your links work

Not looking good in South America
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323951904578292383059267360
or Iran
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444592404578029810117268752

Or you could trust these guys http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanmaglich/2014/02/12/a-ponzi-pandemic-500-ponzi-schemes-totaling-50-billion-in-madoff-era/
updated them all in op and here, but they are paywalled at  wsj

I viewed em for free to begin, guess I had my free views of the day Cheesy



1187. Post 5389370 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: barbs on February 26, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
I do believe good sirs the train is leaving the station.

All aboard!

I think 600-620 is the next station, then its a express to the moon. Hopefully some buyers show up after lunch.



1188. Post 5391399 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

happy to say I'm spam free < perhaps I should check the parents



1189. Post 5392327 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: kurious on February 26, 2014, 08:13:27 PM

He was onto it in 2011:

"In June 2011, Manchin joined Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) in seeking a crackdown on Bitcoin currency transactions, saying that they facilitated illegal drug trade transactions."

Must be kicking himself - he could have cleaned up if he'd bought back then - no wonder he's a troll now Wink

I'm pretty amazed he's still using the same ol' naysayers argument.



1190. Post 5395511 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.20h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on February 26, 2014, 11:28:21 PM
I'm telling you.. we might just shoot straight to $700.  I know it sounds crazy..

 Cheesy Cheesy

not really, fiat, that would've gone to gox is going to head to stamp or coinbase. All these ATM's going live = people need coins to fill em with.



1191. Post 5396431 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.21h):

Quote from: meanig on February 27, 2014, 12:43:23 AM
No rally tonight?



The night is young

ask and you shall receive

only gotta eat 1000 coins to move past 600 hundo



1192. Post 5407277 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.21h):

570-610 seems like our range until someone dares to do as Tera pointed out force the market to believe.



1193. Post 5428096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.22h):

yet were back to 570 already.. ccmf



1194. Post 5439255 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.22h):

Bill Maher really made fun of those who got goxxed kinda sad, but it was his style of satire none the less.



1195. Post 5451960 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.22h):

Quote from: explorer on March 01, 2014, 08:18:24 PM


ButterflyLabs has disappeared?
Did anyone notice the huge jump in network hashrate in the last day or two? I mean HUGE! (It spiked from 27,000Th/s to 35,000Th/s yesterday)
I wonder if they cut and ran with all the new kit, and are mining with everyones preorders?
Wouldn't surprise me one bit, after how they played the last generation.

Coincides with the huge jump in found blocks for ASICMiner...  ?  (which promptly returned to its former insignificant level)  Seems too early to be testing the new chips, but it is a possibility.


The hash rate jumps all the time between phasing of inefficient machinery and new shipments of fresh miners + the regular variance.

IN other thoughts, if we can make it to Monday with a nice steady climb to 600 I'd be happy if not perhaps it just time to send more fiat to an exchange.




1196. Post 5452153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.22h):

No one has fucked with bitcoin's security, I had a fucking hour long argument with a friend just last night. Mtgox's security breach is separate of bitcoins. You trust your cash with a fraudster the same thing happens to your cash lol.

Mtgox closing is a shame because they have failed so many loyal customers, to an extent I believe they we're a bit overly loyal as I wouldn't have trusted gox with my money since 2011 and on...main reason I vetted all my choices for exchanges before depositing any fiat. The coins I currently leave on the exchange is an amount I can personally lose otherwise they'd be in my OWN wallet.

There is no stopping BTC-ATMs popping up globally, these people will drive a second rush. They don't even have to keep the coins or fiat on the exchange.



1197. Post 5476194 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

 2 x 1600 coin walls .. trying to force the price up?

seems that he was just moving it up again



1198. Post 5483478 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Monday is seemingly a good morning.

I stick to this idea we can slow grind to 1k with the current interest and the growing network of bitcoin ATMs' which I love because it to an extent removes some of the risks of dealing with an exchange.



1199. Post 5483498 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: seleme on March 03, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
I seriously don't have idea what to do here

Personally ..what you said earlier...leave the guns in the holster til' 620 min... I mean we've flirted with 620 before.. we break it we'll probably stay above it for the week.



1200. Post 5483636 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

the huobi green candles are pretty...and it seems that some is catching a little fire.



1201. Post 5483694 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: MoreFun on March 03, 2014, 03:28:50 PM
I seriously don't have idea what to do here

Personally ..what you said earlier...leave the guns in the holster til' 620 min... I mean we've flirted with 620 before.. we break it we'll probably stay above it for the week.

Yeah, I'll probably do that.

Still feel bit pissed I sold 60 coins I bought earlier today literally less than a minute before he had put this last wall. $1k opportunity lost so far in 10 minutes  Angry

I have a feeling it's rpietila and his gang from other forum that are doing this.

Better buy now, $620 will fall. This guy is not a joker. Not sure if $620 will hold.

lol and how many coins has this wall actually bought?

With this wall probably 10k in 12h.

I think you're a little delusional but just a little.



1202. Post 5483747 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

I think we have almost as many fiat hodlers as we did during China, people are still hoping the bottom was less than 400......



1203. Post 5483819 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Well at this rate we can let it past 620 and see the dump incoming.. I was seeing the person move his/her 1600 coin walls up...I am only assuming it was the same person cause he was putting almost identical number'd walls if you caught him moving it.. mean he had min 3200+ coins in the account.

I do agree if it this guy pushing it he's playing the gains on the coins moving up and dumping first...or just riding the panic right out of the downtrend Cheesy



1204. Post 5483893 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: ChrisML on March 03, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
What the fuck is this Auroracoin?

dropping for all the citizens of Iceland, trying to spread the crypto power to a country due to the way they got fucked in the last recession Cheesy



1205. Post 5483997 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

newer bids are coming in to protect that 620 wall Cheesy I hope we go full on uptrend Cheesy Would be a big fuck you to all them haters



1206. Post 5484050 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: TERA on March 03, 2014, 03:48:53 PM
Bear traps are gonna happen, but I feel today we'll be near 700.
There's no way it'll reach 700 because the 3 day emas are are $615 and $666. This will be a congestion zone which will not be broken until 3 day MACD is up. Until then $666 will be this evil resistance. It could go sideways for weeks.

sounds like more fuel for the fire. but I do tend to agree that 700 is a bit silly to expect today.



1207. Post 5484118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on March 03, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
I think its going to be trending slightly upward but with not enough momentum do do much of anything for the next couple weeks.

what do you mean much of anything... yesterday we were in 570s



1208. Post 5484228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: TERA on March 03, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
I do not understand this mindset that people get in when they see a rising price or a reversal, that all the sudden it has to reach an even higher level on the same day, and then an even higher level tomorrow, breaking every known resistance on the chart. "It's going to go all the way $XXX!!!". Why? They think that once the reversal is in, all the work is done and we might as well go to ATH right away and skip the whole recovery part. People get caught up in this emotional exuberance that has nothing to do with actual trading trends.

cause that is what happens when demand takes over...

edit : I do however think 650 is a more significant point to break.



1209. Post 5484755 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: TERA on March 03, 2014, 04:16:18 PM


This could actually be a bearish formation, if taken out of context.

this could be bearish if I Tera post about it.

I don't think we're going to the moon or mars, ( in relation to your other response ) past performance doesn't really dictate how the market re-acts today.

I am pretty sure demand is what carried us from 1xx.xx to 12xx.xx, I am not saying this recent buy was all the demand taking over..it just the beginning of it filtering back in after being goxxed.



1210. Post 5484992 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: TERA on March 03, 2014, 04:36:14 PM


This could actually be a bearish formation, if taken out of context.

this could be bearish if I Tera post about it.

I don't think we're going to the moon or mars, ( in relation to your other response ) past performance doesn't really dictate how the market re-acts today.

I am pretty sure demand is what carried us from 1xx.xx to 12xx.xx, I am not saying this recent buy was all the demand taking over..it just the beginning of it filtering back in after being goxxed.
The trendline is a general model of the average rate that the demand is increasing over time. I understand the specific drivers on a short term vary and are unpredictable, good news happens, bad news happens, you get goxxed, etc.  However, the average rate of change over a long period remains relatively constant due to the networking effect, how many people are aware of bitcoin, how any people have told their friends about it, and the underlying merchant adoption going on. Also, whales follow this trendline very closely.

Yeah and we've spent a while under the trend line due to gox ( the one I am following ), we're flirting with being above it I personally believe in a slow grind to 1k by june.. I believed that in october as well.. won't surprise me if we're at 1k next week or a month... would surprised me if we broke far under 400 though.

In the time between Oct and now.. I've started to bring up bitcoin and now I  never suggest it as an investment..and the discussions I am met with are more of explain to me what this is.. only one person I know has then gone on to buy bitcoin however he had 3-4 friends already buying Cheesy I am getting a lot less PONZI PONZI PONZI rebuttals



1211. Post 5487913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

LOLOLOLOL started to play d3 and watch the Ukraine situation develop LOOL 7000 LOOOLLLL



1212. Post 5493050 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Just go look at the 1 day candle so sexiiiiiiiiiii



1213. Post 5496184 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 04, 2014, 04:08:34 AM
So, is there a consensus about what caused todays sudden price increase

The world is in love with Bitcoin and most realize it is a great value?

I wouldn't stop there.. maybe the world realized that bitcoin is divine and the code was sent down directly by god. Now there will be a 120 year long age of peace and enlightenment, while the entire world is mining for the same amount of coins, that a small group of people mined in 5 years.

Ok, we get it ... you missed out on the early coins and you're jealous.

Would you like some cheese to go with those sour grapes?

Jorge why not ask why Russia's Stock market dropped 10-11% and their currency is trading at all time lows, and a general upward trend to commodities, oil, gold and bitcoin Cheesy



1214. Post 5496822 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 04, 2014, 04:43:27 AM
So, is there a consensus about what caused todays sudden price increase

[ ... ] Russia's Stock market dropped 10-11% and their currency is trading at all time lows, and a general upward trend to commodities, oil, gold and bitcoin Cheesy

At least it is a possibility... Some rich Ukranian or Russian buying bitcoin at any price?

But the placement of the orders at Bitstamp seemed to be engineered to drive the price up, wasn't that the general conclusion?
 

The support walls did help us rise, but only cause no one was interested in dumping 1600 coins.



1215. Post 5498067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.23h):

My gut says up up up and away. The Ukraine situation isn't going to resolve and the biggest non believer friend of mine (no not Jorge Cheesy ) just asked me to show him how to buy bitcoin, boy was I pissed he didn't just buy at 400 at one of the local atms FFS



1216. Post 5514765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

pish posh boys, the stock markets rebound and people who bought in low on a bitcoin hedge with Russia heading into the Crimea are able to sell for a profit and bought back in on the lows in the stock markets Cheesy



1217. Post 5515461 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

It appears most exchanges are trying to hover at the 300 ema  on the 4hrs chart

 TA'rs confirm it

However I am still surprised at how fast the market can eat info, understand, react, and then move the fuck on Cheesy

understand and react can switch places depending on how panic mode effects you.



1218. Post 5515558 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 04, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
After today's roller coaster, I am sure that no one cares to know that the Chinese Slumber Predictions for today, namely 3370 CNY for Huobi and 551 USD fo Bitstamp, were quite off the mark, by 680 CNY and 112 USD, respectively. So I will not tell you that.

You probably don't care to know either that since Huobi's clients were all in bed by 3:00 am,  today is a True Slumber Point.  It would be pointless to observe that, therefore,  the previous trend is no longer valid.  I am sure you don't remember me promising to never again deduce a trend from a single data point,  so you will just ignore my doing so now and will pay no attention to my prediction that tomorrow Tuesday Mar/05 at 19:00--19:59 we will have the same soup that we had today, namely 4050 CNY at Huobi, 663 USD for Bitstamp. 


672$ stamp is my bet, based on my crystal ball.



1219. Post 5529063 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

At this rate Jorge's Slumber prediction is close to being on point. Cheesy



1220. Post 5535051 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on March 04, 2014, 11:41:42 PM
After today's roller coaster, I am sure that no one cares to know that the Chinese Slumber Predictions for today, namely 3370 CNY for Huobi and 551 USD fo Bitstamp, were quite off the mark, by 680 CNY and 112 USD, respectively. So I will not tell you that.

You probably don't care to know either that since Huobi's clients were all in bed by 3:00 am,  today is a True Slumber Point.  It would be pointless to observe that, therefore,  the previous trend is no longer valid.  I am sure you don't remember me promising to never again deduce a trend from a single data point,  so you will just ignore my doing so now and will pay no attention to my prediction that tomorrow Tuesday Mar/05 at 19:00--19:59 we will have the same soup that we had today, namely 4050 CNY at Huobi, 663 USD for Bitstamp. 


672$ stamp is my bet, based on my crystal ball.


Crystal Ball vs Chinese Slumber

However Jorge are using Universal time? or South American?



1221. Post 5551931 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

Quote from: pietje on March 06, 2014, 06:14:48 PM
Is Satoshi cashing out or not? Please advise  Undecided Undecided Undecided

Not yet, there is a planned number that's not yet reached...

Do you really think satoshi would have imagined that bitcoin would reach $1000 when he first started?
IF he had a planned number, im pretty sure we have already reached it.

Are you telling me that it even doesn't make sense to Satoshi that bitcoins price is this high? Smiley

Depends on your view. Do you really think that satoshi thought bitcoin would go to $1000 when he started at $0?



great thing about Satoshi is that he probably wasn't worried about that implication, as much as he was to create bitcoin.



1222. Post 5554669 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 06, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
You know it wasn't.  The cognitive dissonance on display here is astounding.

I immediately threw up two links - which you yourself could and should have known about that clearly demonstrated at least two "exchanges volunteering to give a rough idea of their financial position."

So.  No.  It wasn't factually correct.

It was presented as so.  

Cognitive dissonance is quite an euphemism.

One of those links (Coinbase) did not give that information.

The other one is a new exchange that is not even listed in the usual chart services.

(MtGOX too used to show balance sheets, IIRC the last one was in mid-2012.)

But again, before we continue this fruitless debate, can you explain what is your real point?  Do you have any connection to any of those exchanges?

yeah and if they were robbed in Feb 2014 you can see how those two points in time are un-related in the sense of auditing quality.

let's just let the bankruptcy proceedings play out, unless it was Fud the Japanese gov. said no creditor was ahead of another in the gox repayment process.

Jorge your feverish attack on this audit process, again has nothing to do with bitcoin, it is the same type of person who could swindle with gold, cash, commodities and sheer lies that use tactics like lying and stealing, bitcoin just allows us a better method of auditing via the blockchain, no creative accounting likes of which the Corporate world survive on.

It pains me to admit that bitcoin can't make people more ethical, altruistic or trustworthy. These are things that each person develops or doesn't on their own in society.



1223. Post 5555040 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

All Jorge's comment on the accounting practices of current exchanges does is prove that the first exchange with proper financial reporting and third party audits will be flocked to, due to sheep like trust, lol



1224. Post 5556158 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.24h):

Quote from: aminorex on March 06, 2014, 09:44:57 PM
It pains me to admit that bitcoin can't make people more ethical, altruistic or trustworthy. These are things that each person develops or doesn't on their own in society.

Actually, I think it does, when properly used, make people more ethical and trustworthy in their behavior, if not altruistic, and if not in their character, because when properly used it enables transactions which do not depend upon trust, and makes many forms of dishonorable behaviour very difficult if not impossible to perpetrate.

I also think that keeping my wallet in my pocket makes people a bit more ethical, as does keeping my banking credentials private.


You must have great faith in people as a whole, but however I don't disagree that it can foster these characteristics.



1225. Post 5570087 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

looks like the market fears gox coin dumps if they will be repaying with these moving coins



1226. Post 5570629 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 07, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
As it seems, this weekend will see a nice downfall, probably even a flash crash. People are getting tired of waiting for Santa Whale to buy their "cheap coins". The smart ones are getting out earlier, the rest will be waiting for miracles until it's too late.

You got a short memory, Hoss. We are following the same pattern from the ramp from $400 to $607 then a pull back to $533 before the next ramp to $710.

tide always goes out before the Tsunami.

Fibonacci agrees Cheesy



1227. Post 5570851 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

bear trap Cheesy its been a while ya know



1228. Post 5572086 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

btw panic is the worst decision making tool



1229. Post 5581994 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

people are just caught up in Satoshi Fud, and Gox coins moving to wallets...good ol' uncertainty is back...won't last to long as eventually the next set of info will splash the market



1230. Post 5584214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Quote from: seleme on March 08, 2014, 05:55:53 AM
people are just caught up in Satoshi Fud, and Gox coins moving to wallets...good ol' uncertainty is back...won't last to long as eventually the next set of info will splash the market

The most funny thing is when those TA self-precious smartarses claim that news doesn't affect the price. Yeah, their fancy lines do it, lol.

well played, I read you made a nice lil buck on the waves Cheesy



1231. Post 5610516 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

it's Monday SOMEWHERE Cheesy lol



1232. Post 5619756 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

funny my wisdom is fine, showing what it normally shows for me.
usd/$ btc
615   146
610   569
605   1382
600   3122
595   3273



1233. Post 5653517 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

well, I don't know about you guys and girls but it seems to be good times Cheesy



1234. Post 5653993 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

I'd love to see some swallow that 1100 btc sell order



1235. Post 5664268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

At the least bitcoin has us engaging with those we likely would've just left on ignore, well not everyone makes it to the debate...however the titles I' have seen tweeted in relation to the Goldman Sach's piece, tend to skew it towards a bash fest. After seeing those charts and figures...I can only think someone who doesn't know how to recognize opportunities is concluding it is doomed lol.



1236. Post 5706850 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

starting to feel like jan again, staying in a predictable channel and we can break out soon unless gox rises from the dead.



1237. Post 5707127 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

Quote from: souspeed on March 15, 2014, 07:06:01 AM
starting to feel like jan again, staying in a predictable channel and we can break out soon unless gox rises from the dead.

Please not!
I prefer the predictable channel over a Zombie!

agreed I hope the beast remains slain and that some of the owed btc/fiat is returned to customers via bankruptcy



1238. Post 5740825 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

Quote from: aminorex on March 17, 2014, 06:29:36 AM
It would have to be resistant to seizure and resistant to price crashes. For it the investment could easily hit $0, he may as well just have it seized.
If you think BTC can easily be taken to $0, try it.


the amount of time trolls dedicate to Bitcoin should be a sign that it is succeeding in some sense, however the trolls are about as efficient as the gpu miners are for btc now lol



1239. Post 5741422 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

sell on any news Cheesy , I don't discount the idea of an attempt to squeeze the people going long



1240. Post 5754462 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 17, 2014, 11:25:54 PM
rapid loss of depth on both the bid and ask side from the bitstamp orderbook in the past hour.... what's going on Huh traders finally moving orders that had been parked since the beginning of the painfully low volatility?


I don't see any meaningful changes regarding the order book walls. 

I see 6,000 bitcoins on each side of the order book (at least for the next $60 in each direction)..... pretty much unchanged from previous order book wall amounts

there is chart, the bid ask sum chart, which pretty much shows a pretty accurate of the total coins vs fiat on the exchange...it gets posted here often but I am not looking for it Cheesy Probably will get posted soon enough.



1241. Post 5758161 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

a lil more dumping Cheesy let go sub 600 why not all the bears want to buy coins there lol



1242. Post 5759411 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

This seems more like that long squeeze, however...I just think somebody is picking up as many cheap coins as possible..those trying to kick start the markets with large buy orders could' have picked up more letting people dump em to them...add some of the low volume as of late and you get a prime time to squeeeeze



1243. Post 5759828 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

601 on stamp seems to the battleground area, for fibs it  down breaks below 38% retracement at this threshold..

However the market looks like its being hit up with waves of buy and hodlers, I mean the volume for these last dumps isn't as significant as I'd expect given the level of Fud and goxxing floating around

edit: assuming a lot, the bids seem hidden or placed neatly just above the points above 604 and 606, also being recent lows as of this run up to 710 buy a rushed hodler Cheesy



1244. Post 5760015 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

whatever New York State can build as a bitcoin exchange can be a new exp spurt Cheesy some people just crave legitimacy of government stamps of approval lol



1245. Post 5772955 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

LTC pump is nice, people are just waiting for a good moment to jump back in to the btc.. turning profits both ways..as always someone will get caught.



1246. Post 5773118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

Quote from: derpinheimer on March 18, 2014, 10:39:51 PM
The good news is, there are only 19,000 BTC on Stamp until the price can go above $6000.






I hope you know this isnt good news... lol

after a goxing people ain;'t holding coins at exchanges unless they plan to be trading Cheesy the goxxing will continue Cheesy

I think 2014 will be the rise of the next major exchanges and perhaps the biggest located U.S side, NY is where I expect it to be based out of.



1247. Post 5773291 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 18, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
LTC down to 18.CheapShitCoins

.cheapshitcoins = .89 cents lol as of now



1248. Post 5777110 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

LTC is becoming the honey badger of today, but most people expected us to dip a lil further than btc did today.



1249. Post 5777231 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

Quote from: OldGeek on March 19, 2014, 05:10:06 AM
Does anyone have a hint as to why BTC-e is higher than Bitstamp?

I am assuming counter plays by people watching the ltc raising with little or no concern for bitcoin



1250. Post 5777867 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

I am just lol'n over this ltc action, think most bitcoiners are busy watching the volume



1251. Post 5778406 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.27h):

2600 ltc, biggest buy I've seen roll by, the pump vs dump is strong in the ltc today



1252. Post 5799727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

DCA, hmm had I just thought buy and hold in sept .. I would have alot more btc Cheesy



1253. Post 5811398 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 20, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
I need to stop looking at charts and work out how to get into building Bitcoin infrastructure.

you and me both!

really wasting tons of time in this thread / chart gazing, its fun but uselessness.



I broke free when I realized not evening goxxing could destroy bitcoin, it's just a time frame game now, especially as I am a full member of buy and hodler...don't think I'll ever been selling for dirty Fiat



1254. Post 5814261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: Erdogan on March 21, 2014, 01:07:59 AM
I had to fill up my tank, and was caught in a naked long squeeze.


If I wasn't as much of a buy and holder as I am I would have sold on the news of gox having xxx,xxx coins left lol. People somehow associate this with a reason to dump...not to say there aren't good reasons for why you should sell.. just seems unhealthy to be so fearful.



1255. Post 5814907 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 21, 2014, 03:01:18 AM
If I wasn't as much of a buy and holder as I am I would have sold on the news of gox having xxx,xxx coins left lol. People somehow associate this with a reason to dump...not to say there aren't good reasons for why you should sell.. just seems unhealthy to be so fearful.

The API did show those 200k BTC moving around a few weeks ago so it wasn't exactly breaking news that those 200k were under their control - but it is something to watch.

Consider this:

- MtGox creditors (customers) must be threated equally. This is an absolute requirement.
- The amount of fiat currency they have divided by fiat owed to their customers is X%
- The amount of BTC currency they have divided by BTC owed to their customers is Y%

This creates a problem. X not being equal to Y and the fact that X and Y creditors must be threated equal creates a problem. One solution would be to sell the 200k BTC and pay all creditors using fiat.

lol if a 200K wall pops up, i'm sorry but i'm gonna panic sell.. lol


I am long in both BTC and LTC, and haven't sold any BTC in a long long time.   If a 200k BTC sell wall comes up, I will definitely sell some and re-buy some though...


You still definitely would NOT know, merely from the appearance of a wall, that such a wall were real or NOT.. unless you knew some back-story.


I was really just relating to selling on the news of the gox coins making a re appearance in the news plus some confirmations from gox themselves. I was aware of the coins existence before today reiterations.



1256. Post 5816129 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on March 21, 2014, 05:32:12 AM
First Bitcoin ATM in USA, in Albuquerque, NM was pulled today because it wasn't being used.

Don't drunk Indians just trade firewater and fry bread for everything? Why would they need a Bitcoin ATM anyway?

Great insight, that's why I love this thread so...

Does this guy look like he needs a Bitcoin ATM?



Among others things, maybe not his number one priority Cheesy



1257. Post 5816765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

whose buying all the cheaper bitcoins



1258. Post 5818684 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: 600watt on March 21, 2014, 08:01:01 AM
Davyd05, QuestionAuthority welcome to my ignore list.

fuck racism

uhm I don't see how I was being racist.. I wasn't answering in relation to his previous statement.. just that in that picture the bitcoin atm wasn't the paramount thing of need...I am 1/16th native myself and wasn't trying to further his earlier comment.

In bitcoin related input, I think 620 is the moon today but let us watch..and see what unfolds.



1259. Post 5826132 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

LoL, after a quick read...boy china just creates a stir like no other...However surprised the market kept some of their coins this time lol



1260. Post 5826557 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 21, 2014, 06:44:05 PM


but your friend would be freshly out of fiat as well.

You'd think but a large part of my friends wouldn't buy even if we went really low. Meanwhile I'd be loading up, locking them in the freezer and wait till I've got enough for my island  Cool


What would you be locking in the freezer?  Your friends?  Hopefully, they would be issued space heater and oxygen, too.

...but he made a pun based on the idea of cold storage requiring a Fridge/Freezer.



1261. Post 5826577 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 21, 2014, 06:47:25 PM


COLD STORAGE
ALL THE FRIENDS!

Puts Adam in the freezer first. I'll just manage your coins till the big de thaw of 2020



1262. Post 5835107 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

patience, I just adjusted the fibs to see what the run up from the last dip to 400 and it looks just fine Cheesy



1263. Post 5836473 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

and we have another round of dumping.

ya only 1200 coins sold Cheesy someone had some limit order filled lol



1264. Post 5844913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on March 22, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
im supposed to not wire more fiat then i can lose but i might have to do it Cool
A monetary loss cannot be measured just in dollars, you must consider what it could mean to your life, now and in the future.  If you have a few million $, losing 100 k$ is only an inconvenience, and you will probably recover those 100 k$ in a matter of months .  If all you own is a house worth 200 k$, losing 100 k$ is a big trauma, may even cost your family and you may never recover those 100 k$.  

If it helps you decide, I am going to change my signature from "rather skeptic" to "very skeptic".  I now put the chances of Bitcoin (specifically, not some future crypto-coin) becoming a significant currency of e-commerce at about the same level of myself becoming Pope.  And it has nothing to do with price evolution or recent news.

So you are saying don't just measure dollars but relative dollar, you can still measure in dollars.

As for your opinion I'm curious, what do you define as e-commerce?

In December 2012 I had finished my thought experiment and Bitcoin education of 20 months. (My skepticism was based on the fact my investment had over a 300% return. I could see no way for it to succeeded as a currency other than in black markets where there were greater inefficiencies. My conclusion was the velocity of Bitcoin couldn't justify the price (silk road accounting for approximately 80% of Bitcoin commerce.)

So I sold all but the fiew coins I mined. Needless to say over the following 12 months Bitcoin went from $10 to $1,000.
The shock (lost opportunity) made me reconsider my assumptions.

I finally reconciled my understanding with the fact Bitcoin could be used as a currency for e-commerce, if it's price collapsed.
But it's killer app was store of value and vertual commodity.

Since then my trading style has reflected that understanding.

I would love to know what it is about Bitcoin that has entrenched you skepticism ?

I swapped him on to my ignore as it is the same story with new vocab. I don't even know why he posts here per say...but we all arrived here somehow.

I do come here to gain a better understanding of other peoples sentiment and outside opinions to help me develop my own conclusions. Jorge focuses too much of the human aspects; exchanges run by shady char, faked volume due to 0% fees, sleeping Chinese traders, sociopaths who would take your fiat or bitcoin all the same. I invested in bitcoin ultimately because it is a technological revolution of financial accountability at its core, the many aspects of bitcoin that then stem off of this are equally impressive and innovative in my opinion.



1265. Post 5863580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Reddit is full of business venture related stuff today, a game I play, Heroes of New Earth is accepting it as payment for their in game purchases...best buy and newegg can be shopped via zinc save, see if they're legit, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/215q3b/get_savings_on_newegg_and_best_buy_for_buying/. As mentioned before Barry Silbert trying to educate the financial investors. I usually marks these times points. first lag of fiat to the exchanges. Depending on how successful people are at using new services and or Barry Silbert breaks down the wall of misunderstanding for all the people he hopes to share the information with.



1266. Post 5888478 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

My magic lines say 600 by the 27th but alas they are only magic. Think I like this reverse motion, gives me more time to buy moarrrr coinzzzz



1267. Post 5888813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

I've seen it mentioned, but perhaps it is the reason as to why some exchanges ie Kraken have started to supply proof of reserves, trying to calm the world down.



1268. Post 5889271 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

people can't figure out bitcoin overnight.. I fucking slept on it for two years, and regret every naive moment.



1269. Post 5905132 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: KeyserSoze on March 26, 2014, 03:35:25 AM
So, since the U.S. declared Bitcoin property not money, how soon should Karpeles expect his Dwolla cash back? He was only selling property.

Shrem wasn't laundering money Cheesy lol  facking bureaucracies



1270. Post 5907180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

unless gox really does announce finding lost coins, as per twitter fud... I am guessing 576 as middle range on the days high or low.. 600 will be a train station of the future lol



1271. Post 5927402 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z124efeb5raxihxpc04chnnp0xm4h5og1uw0k

 need more fiat for coinzzzzzz



1272. Post 5928723 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

all that is left to happen is for gox to admit the coins weren't stolen via TM and we can have another round of dump for fun



1273. Post 5940743 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

oh cool we bounced of the 1 day 300 ema Cheesy whatdya know.. I need to get fiat to exchange.. people are getting fleeced out of their coins...well in my opinion they are.. for the first time in a long time buying can lower my avg buy in price Cheesy I think I shall ... mind you I know that I won't be able to cause I got no fiat in the exchange and the chart shows these lows usually = big investors snapping up a huge amount when the volume allows it.



1274. Post 5940799 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: vleroybrown on March 28, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
How long before we get to 300s..  Its my opinion that we will find a floor there, but I was shocked the price held up as well as it did despite MtGox.


Have you looked at a chart.. you know the bottoms.. its 380 way back on the last oh my god they (china) might ban bitcoin time frame.. the oh shit gox is really goxxing it went to 401 .. so if you think 481 isn't the current bottom please explain why? Cheesy



1275. Post 5940902 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: TERA on March 28, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
looks like the bottom is in at huobi
Wrong. Look at the volume. It has decreased significantly on this wave down from the last wave down. That is very bearish. It is no longer up to Huobi to find the bottom. It is up to Bitstamp. I predict that the final bottom will be on a day when Bitstamp has over 200,000BTC of volume.


so 137k took us to $380 .. and you think 200k is going to hit the market to help us hit a bottom. Despite almost all of the news being a bunch of shit and the fundamentals of bitcoin are moving forward and at new speeds... sometimes I wonder if you have a bi-polar bear bull disorder.

IMO you are under playing how skiddish the market has become after gox.. they wanted to believe it was all lies that the coins we're missing. Now no1 wants to hodl through China fud and we have big sheep sales.

They almost had a domestic bank run due to one or two people getting turned away from withdrawals of 10,000+ usd ( in yuan ), this is with out tweets.. just word of mouth IIRC.

edit: In conclusion.. low volume + china murmurs = a reason to sell just in case.. which in reality is the reason we see so many flash crashes.. people being greedy and selling to buy back in lower on the rebound.



1276. Post 5941365 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: arepo on March 28, 2014, 12:57:23 AM
A good bull-trap actually functions like a Ponzi, the first ones that get in will be rewarded when they leave at the right time.  Cheesy

Edit: 1h chart actually looks like a waterfall Smiley

this is how all trading works Tongue it's identical to a game where there are two rooms, A and B, and players move from one, to the hallway in between, to the other. each player's reward is proportional to the number of people who enter room A after him, minus the number of people who leave room A before him, as well as the number of people who enter room B after him, minus the number of people who leave room B before him.

imagine actually playing that game. seems silly, doesn't it? Cheesy that's what we're doing here, all of us!

--arepo

Except for I entered a room.. and I am not leaving it Cheesy



1277. Post 5941395 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 28, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
I guess that massive spike was a bunch of the lesser whales getting out of bed in China.

Since when did you have to be Chinese to trade in China or @Huobi...just as likely it was Rpiella and Tera lol

It's not like CaVirtEx is with CAD citizen only traders to the best of my knowledge.



1278. Post 5941459 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 28, 2014, 01:14:54 AM
I guess that massive spike was a bunch of the lesser whales getting out of bed in China.

Since when did you have to be Chinese to trade in China or @Huobi...just as likely it was Rpiella and Tera lol

It's not like CaVirtEx is with CAD citizen only traders to the best of my knowledge.

well I didnt know that whales outside of china would like to deal with yuan. but it's the chinese that have guns pointed at them. not risto. and its time to get up and go to work now.

So correlate getting up for work and.. being a whale.. lol



1279. Post 5942533 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

the candle stick formation of today's occurrence is very interesting to me, can't find a similar looking one.. closest was like April 5th of last years in the 12hr. mainly skipping over that and 1day

wow that tried to go all Fibo on us out of the blue Cheesy not lol



1280. Post 5943929 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.29h):

to think 520 is just shy of twice the ath of last april.. Cheesy



1281. Post 5945524 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

did someone say there are cheap coins Cheesy



1282. Post 5945983 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: TERA on March 28, 2014, 09:05:34 AM
Dear bitcoin. Please stay still for exactly 3 days. Regards, TERA.

already broke your wishes lol



1283. Post 5946088 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on March 28, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Dear bitcoin. Please stay still for exactly 3 days. Regards, TERA.

already broke your wishes lol


yumm 386 coins @ 500usd sounds like a nice breakfast.



1284. Post 5946518 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: podyx on March 28, 2014, 09:48:12 AM
I must say, people are more bearish now then ever

even I think this looks bull trappish, floating up on low vol. However when you have buys of 1k ... repeatedly in 15-30 minute windows it gets quite amazing how the panic can catch fire.



1285. Post 5946584 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

I mean we can drift lower, fear is fear... we can grind back up cause cheaper coins really do entice those who wanted in a certain prices to buy in... I should have my excess fiat on the exchange so I can buy on any dipps that would lower my average buy in D:  as this spring may be the only time frame that allows for this..



1286. Post 5959334 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 28, 2014, 11:49:49 PM
"cheap coins" - another cultist term

Imagine you were selling bitcoin futures contracts. What would someone have to pay you now in return for your bitcoin a year from now?

These coins are going up and you know it. You just don't know how much they're going to go down first.


I think the term 'cheap coins' TERA is referring to is used by cult sellers anticipating much cheaper prices, rather than how I might use the use the phrase, these coins are cheap.

the sentiment is, sell now and buy back some 'cheap coins' when the apocalypse comes.

I believe the worst is over.

I say the coins are cheap when its lower than my avg. buy in price.



1287. Post 5964842 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

going to try and creep on low volume.. wonder if the walls behind this are just profit takers who plan to rebuy if we dip back towards the 490s



1288. Post 5965235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: podyx on March 29, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
I believe we'll see consodilation for some days or maybe even weeks before we start a new uptrend and a new journey to a new ATH (my guess is $6k)

I feel that we'll have to do that in November..  of 2014 , which is fine with me Cheesy



1289. Post 5965775 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

I'll hold 10 until it is like 10,000 ... however some support mild support at 500 sold to the first  bidder Cheesy

sub 500 again.. for how long though for how longg



1290. Post 5973763 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 29, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
Why so defensive?? If you are a paid troll, are you allowed to deny it? I guess you would be. But your defensiveness makes it seem like you're more guilty.
If I were a paid troll, I would deny it, no? Silly question...

Tell me where I have "spread fear" without backing it up with argument.

Meanwhile I can tell you right away one of the lies that marketeers keep spreading: that "bitcoins will be extremely valuable because there can be only 21 million of them".  The truth is that there can be an infinte number of cryptocoins, any brand of them is just as good for commerce as any other, and there is no reason to believe that bitcoin will be among the ones that will succeed if they do succeed.

What a waste of a brain. You're clearly intelligent...you just display opinion like a troll, and generally speaking you don't back anything up.. its all your opinion Cheesy

https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi is this you?



1291. Post 5973842 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: KFR on March 29, 2014, 09:56:11 PM
Why so defensive?? If you are a paid troll, are you allowed to deny it? I guess you would be. But your defensiveness makes it seem like you're more guilty.
If I were a paid troll, I would deny it, no? Silly question...

Tell me where I have "spread fear" without backing it up with argument.

We tell you that all the time.  You choose to ignore it and press on.  So we choose to ignore you and press on.  Sad that - some of us were hoping you would continue to offer constructive counterpoint arguments, which would help the less cynical among us to challenge our assumptions.

IMHO you're lying to yourself and us about your position or you don't really understand objective analysis, which is something I still find hard to believe given your background.

BTW, have you learned how to use bitcoin yet, professor? Tongue



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Stolfi I highly doubt he is the real Jorge.. I can't believe I let myself be trolled for so long Cheesy lol



1292. Post 5974004 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: windjc on March 29, 2014, 10:06:29 PM
Why so defensive?? If you are a paid troll, are you allowed to deny it? I guess you would be. But your defensiveness makes it seem like you're more guilty.
If I were a paid troll, I would deny it, no? Silly question...

Tell me where I have "spread fear" without backing it up with argument.
We tell you that all the time.  You choose to ignore it and press on.  So we choose to ignore you and press on.  Sad that - some of us were hoping you would continue to offer constructive counterpoint arguments, which would help the less cynical among us to challenge our assumptions.

IMHO you're lying to yourself and us about your position or you don't really understand objective analysis, which is something I still find hard to believe given your background.

BTW, have you learned how to use bitcoin yet, professor? Tongue
Another reason to suspect he is getting paid. His background vs. his commentary doesn't add up. What does add up, however, is that he admits to having a decent size family to take care of, we know the economic situation in Brazil is very difficult and we can suspect a professor doesn't necessarily make much to take care of a such a family. He would be a perfect choice as a paid troll.

you're still assuming that JorgeStolfi @ bitcointalk is actually Jorge Stolfi...

See my last post.

Dopple Stolfi



1293. Post 5974159 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on March 29, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
We tell you that all the time.  You choose to ignore it and press on.  So we choose to ignore you and press on.
I don't recall seeing an answer to my point about altcoins vs scarcity.  Or to how important is the Chinese market for the price of Bitcoin.  Or to why is the price 500 USD if it is very likely to be 1,000,000 USD "soon".  Or...



and why does time pass by relative to gravity..

Altcoins are exactly that alts, and not many people in their right mind will say that bitcoin will remain king, but based on the money flowing in on the btc start-ups that alone speaks for itself.

Why 500 or 493.99 because the market dictates it. Perhaps because less than 7 months we we're below 100. Perhaps the market is terrified of China dropping the coins, perhaps cause to many sheeple bought on the last rally not full understanding...took me two years to realize the ramification of this invention.



1294. Post 5976599 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: windjc on March 30, 2014, 01:51:46 AM
The last time windjc and seleme were that agressive we were around 800$
Where´s Billie Jean btw? Busy buyin up all those cheap coins :-D

What part of "I am short" did you not comprehend?

Billy is selling his soul for more fiat, to then lock it into btc.

I really need to get to buying.. or sending money.. but I am some what content with my stash.. but 2 years from now I don't want to be saying I should have bought more on the dips.



1295. Post 5976694 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

It regards to this debate of exchanges.. CaVirtEx follows strict KYC and AML ..and have yet to be successfully defrauded of a dollar as of the march 2014 video update and now monthly planned newsletter



1296. Post 5977637 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: BitChick on March 30, 2014, 03:28:11 AM
Bitchick is a legend, always positive since day one she posted here  Smiley

Ahh. I guess I am extremely optimistic. BitChicksHusband was warning me today that on the next run in price we will sell some coins.   Embarrassed  Why does this make me sad?  I then argue with him about it.  I think I have a problem.  I am more than a Bitcoin Hodler.  I am a Bitcoin Hoarder!

There is a time for everything.  A time to hold and a time to sell.  I will just have to let go as painful as it might be. Wink


I am planning to cover my investment on the next run-up with minimal coins sold, and probably re invest on any corrections lol



1297. Post 5978721 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

I mean hey when there are no rallies are in sight, what can we do but short and or sell now an buy back on the bounce...tis but a phase that takes place in the cycle of bitcoin

oh yeah hodl like me Cheesy



1298. Post 5978867 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on March 30, 2014, 06:02:17 AM
squeezing for all it's worth.... the question is...will i give up my stake in bitcoin?
Nope. it is worth so much more. I am the patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuLy9shJNYc
.

Buy on fear. Always. Bought as much as I could Wink

So you've been buying non stop the last few months? How much did you lose?


its only temporarily at a loss .. unless you wuss out and realize the loss and sodl Cheesy



1299. Post 5979069 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on March 30, 2014, 06:07:50 AM
squeezing for all it's worth.... the question is...will i give up my stake in bitcoin?
Nope. it is worth so much more. I am the patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuLy9shJNYc
.

Buy on fear. Always. Bought as much as I could Wink

So you've been buying non stop the last few months? How much did you lose?


its only temporarily at a loss .. unless you wuss out and realize the loss and sodl Cheesy

There is no guarantee it will go back up again.


there is none but I highly doubt less people are going to find out about it than more at this point.



1300. Post 5980662 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 30, 2014, 09:16:20 AM
How do you test if a rumour is true?

sell 1k coins. hits a bottom? the insiders are buying - then proceed to buy all the coins you can get your hands on.

not seeing the rumor hitting reddit, yet. However I assume once that happens all the chikun will show there colors.

The recent action does strengthen arguments that many of the Chinese maybe holding bitcoin for its speculative value. If the speculators outside of China expect a dump I would assume liquidity would appear to dry up as the market wants the cheapest price possible to soak up the fiat held for trading. I assume the orders become trigger limits with the bots and other people just responding to TA. This is somewhat supported by wave in to the 520s, buying up at what they consider close enough to a bottom. If whales or market makers feel there aren't enough coins being sacrificed by weaker hands the pump probably resumes as it would make them money offloading on the way up and again waiting for something they can manipulate the speculators to move with the market on and then the sheeple into selling on fear.



1301. Post 5982369 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: mmitech on March 30, 2014, 12:15:06 PM
2011 repeating ? will 2014 be the year of the depression ? I don't get what is happening but even if you try to explain it to me it just wont make sense...

The Chinese inspire fear, but most of all people want coins for cheap then market constantly Cheesy



1302. Post 5982606 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: oyvinds on March 30, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
The chart looks like two people stepped on land mines. Short sellers gotta wonder how many more are out there.

lol you're pretty transparent in your desperate attempts at arguing why the price would go up. It really shines through that you're in a bad big long position that you are looking to exit.

Have you even looked at the actual stats I shared a few posts back? Shorts are reducing their positions not adding. We are taking profit since we, unlike you, have a profit not a loss.

You're such a beta, I bet you don't even lift. Keep posting, btw, I'd put you on ignore for our pure stupidity but watching you loose money is too fun.

scored major points till you wrote loose money instead of lose money and all that build up just went down the shitter.



1303. Post 5984117 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.30h):

Quote from: Hypnoise on March 30, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
that was the bottom, where is another bottle cheers  Wink

this simply isn't so till we have something to confirm fud, and unleash cannons of fiat.



1304. Post 5994716 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: Ivanhoe on March 30, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
Wow permabulls turning bear Shocked. I feel much despair and capitulation in this thread. I even feel like "ok, f* it, i will look again in 2 months what the price is again." I'm glad i bought at low double digits though.
 

better cash out now cuz you aint gonna see this price again
You are wrong, time will prove that.
time has proven Cheesy that this was true.





1305. Post 5994804 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on March 31, 2014, 03:03:13 AM
CCMF.  Party insiders at Weigo-Xiuxiu Nau have confirmed that they are expecting to see a huge upswing in both price and volume this week.  Once again thanks to Proudhon for the tip.  Cool
Traders @ Tuda Mune concur.

I love how BTC-E has been less sheepish than other exchanges.. and they brought in Yuan today eh?

either way...bitcoin needs to become a distinct market place where we don't get hit with the horde mentality on bad news, to conclude it's just a matter of time before people come to understand it. Cheesy



1306. Post 5994992 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on March 31, 2014, 03:24:24 AM
What are the chances that any FUD we get tomorrow will be shrugged off as an April Fool's joke?


Tuesday you mean, unless you're experiencing Monday I'm still 34 minutes out.

I doubt China would April fools us..but I mean weirder things have happened. I think the market is ready to absorb the news as false...and then digest the possible regulations being added but I just don't see an outright ban on bitcoin...why waste time on posting it...to somehow give your people a chance at dumping first.. that seems way too altruistic Cheesy



1307. Post 5995083 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 31, 2014, 03:33:35 AM
What are the chances that any FUD we get tomorrow will be shrugged off as an April Fool's joke?


Tuesday you mean, unless you're experiencing Monday I'm still 34 minutes out.

I doubt China would April fools us..but I mean weirder things have happened. I think the market is ready to absorb the news as false...and then digest the possible regulations being added but I just don't see an outright ban on bitcoin...why waste time on posting it...to somehow give your people a chance at dumping first.. that seems way too altruistic Cheesy

Can you imagine?

"PBOC Bans Bitcoin" - billions of dollars of value lost in crash.

next day - LOL just jokes! wanna buy some bitcoins?

This is the humor I can only imagine from a scumbag steve meme...and or the powers that be... trying to fuck with all the crypto lovers.



1308. Post 5995300 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: aminorex on March 31, 2014, 04:06:26 AM
Where is this "ban" meme coming from?  If it is Caixin, did you even read the article?

we are talking about the future occurring if you mean the meme stuff I mentioned... however a lil more dumping perhaps fearing the last time to incur panic before Monday morning wall street is up?

Huobi lead that one it seemed. hit 2600 like a tennis balll



1309. Post 5995320 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: surfer43 on March 31, 2014, 04:09:28 AM
STOP dumping,  Angry

they already have, bounced hard off 2600 right back to high of 2750... has panic sodl written all over it



1310. Post 5995418 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

100% panic sodl, and or limit orders being triggered on stamp.. they're anxious as last night we broke the lows of late



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google translate from bter.com announcement page.. 2nd newest piece of info only posted in Chinese.

This sounds more like they had to adjust to regulation why is it that this is a ban.. per say lol



1312. Post 5995523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: fotosonics on March 31, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
It's only $7,- of price pump.

Lets just wait till it surpasses that magical $666 line.  Roll Eyes

Yes. Tired of all the hasty abuse of train images. People do that each time there's a small jump, ignorant that each time they're making noise it's for a much lower price than the last time they made noise.

And no sooner does someone yell "CCMF" than the price begins to dive again, deeper than the previous low.

Kids these days.  

+1
We're in a bear market in the weekly, daily and 15 charts.
The bid/sum ratio stand at 1:2.5.
The only 'bright' spot is we've broken the 200 EMA (15min) for the first time in ten days or so but even that is on thin volume.

Yet, the ferroequinologists pop up in even a glimmer of sunshine. Wink
 

So. The price right now is 443. And falling. I hate to be the one to say "I told you so," but... why this should surprise anyone at this point is beyond me.

So to all you ferroequinologists, aka CCMFers, just please, STFU. So you don't continue to look like fools.

CCMF CHOO MOTHER FUCK'n CHOO



1313. Post 5995596 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: chessnut on March 31, 2014, 04:37:06 AM
It's only $7,- of price pump.

Lets just wait till it surpasses that magical $666 line.  Roll Eyes

Yes. Tired of all the hasty abuse of train images. People do that each time there's a small jump, ignorant that each time they're making noise it's for a much lower price than the last time they made noise.

And no sooner does someone yell "CCMF" than the price begins to dive again, deeper than the previous low.

Kids these days.  

+1
We're in a bear market in the weekly, daily and 15 charts.
The bid/sum ratio stand at 1:2.5.
The only 'bright' spot is we've broken the 200 EMA (15min) for the first time in ten days or so but even that is on thin volume.

Yet, the ferroequinologists pop up in even a glimmer of sunshine. Wink
 

So. The price right now is 443. And falling. I hate to be the one to say "I told you so," but... why this should surprise anyone at this point is beyond me.

So to all you ferroequinologists, aka CCMFers, just please, STFU. So you don't continue to look like fools.

CCMF CHOO MOTHER FUCK'n CHOO

to DA MOOOON!!!

to be clear that this sentiment is what I want to happen.. doesn't make it so. As far as day trading goes you have to be flexible in undertaking the market sentiment and without a doubt or a hint of sarcasm I tip my hat to those with balls to short this weekend, I wouldn't of advised against but I didn't have the balls to do so. Hence why I hodl...perhaps nov 2014 I'll sell to cover initial invesment and re-invest on dips but still 7 months till that point of re evaluation.



1314. Post 5995700 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on March 31, 2014, 04:51:12 AM
Ouch! 4k dump on Huobi has spread to bitstamp and cleared the order book....

Final capitulation in China before the mind-set changes to the realization that this is the easiest time to buy btc for long-term storage?


If i read the words final capitulation one more time...

agreed, like I said before I hit the sack.. we don't know the real bottom till we've left for the next uptrend...guess all you like.. but really nobody knwos



1315. Post 5996234 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: oyvinds on March 31, 2014, 05:47:12 AM
Some guys are putting a bit of fight at 450$...  Shocked

It won't matter by the end of this week. CNY can only flow one way now: Out of the BTC "market". Those who HODL can call that good news and false rumor all they want, it won't help. Smiley

Expect double digits.

mother of all bears eh Cheesy or kin of proudhon?



1316. Post 5996263 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

really starting to believe that statement was an internal memo that got leaked from the pboc on its way to exchanges.. Mind you I'll change my mind if across the board halts come..and then watch them flow to btc-e lol



1317. Post 5997562 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: windjc on March 31, 2014, 08:22:52 AM
"So far, two biggest exchanges Huobi and Okcoin claimed that they haven't received any notice or document yet. "

http://www.bitell.com/t/2063

What the hell is going on over there? Its like Mark Karpales is running all the major Chinese exchanges too. 3 exchanges say they have gotten notices and 3 say they haven't.

It sounds like a stall tactic to me. They MUST know by now what's up. I guess they are trying to work on contingencies or they are trying to figure out how best to spin this story.

Everyone is watch Houbi though, so that's the one we have to wait wait wait for confirmation from.  And they are the least likely to give us a straight answer, imo.

smells like compliance issues, but I dunno not experiencing any of the news first hand quite sad Sad



1318. Post 5997810 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: windjc on March 31, 2014, 08:27:21 AM
"So far, two biggest exchanges Huobi and Okcoin claimed that they haven't received any notice or document yet. "

http://www.bitell.com/t/2063

What the hell is going on over there? Its like Mark Karpales is running all the major Chinese exchanges too. 3 exchanges say they have gotten notices and 3 say they haven't.

It sounds like a stall tactic to me. They MUST know by now what's up. I guess they are trying to work on contingencies or they are trying to figure out how best to spin this story.

Everyone is watch Houbi though, so that's the one we have to wait wait wait for confirmation from.  And they are the least likely to give us a straight answer, imo.

smells like compliance issues, but I dunno not experiencing any of the news first hand quite sad Sad

What do you mean "compliance issues?"

do transactions this way...with in this channel etc etc or no transactions at all



1319. Post 5999386 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

word on the reddit, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21ti9k/btc_china_directly_responds_to_rumours_about/

hmm, wonder if this will spring the next bull trap, till pboc just makes a blanket announcement



1320. Post 6011831 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 01, 2014, 02:41:04 AM
I gauge each individual by what they post, not what someone else posts about them (although I do use what someone says about others to gauge their own character).

Just what I need, another person judging me on shallow evidence.

creekbore has been stalking me for a while, and he's made this personal. If I lose my patience the last thing Im worried about is looking like a jerk.






trolls gonna troll, we're all just speculating on an internet forum when it comes down to it.



1321. Post 6012003 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: David M on April 01, 2014, 02:59:38 AM
Bitcoinity has Gonzo as the background.
IIRC it's Beaker.

I think you are right.  It's been a long time since I saw the Muppets..

+2 beaker Cheesy

2800 on huobi, the first pump begins soon? debating.. it should imo but there is still a bit of uncertainty out there. Plus all the shorts that would have to close eventually



1322. Post 6013716 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 01, 2014, 04:48:54 AM
This Chinese thread seems to say that bank deposit (?) at OKCoin was still working today (Apr/01) around 09:00 local time.

Thought it was clarified via bter that they were closing third party partners not a blanket ban.



1323. Post 6013768 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: TERA on April 01, 2014, 06:30:12 AM
Nice little wall at 350-450 has formed. This might give us another 1-4 weeks before 400 is broken, and maybe even a bulltrap to 550 or so where the next shorting opportunity will be.

I think that those orders are from new market meat. Like a friend of mine who called me a fool at 100, and yet he is now patiently waiting for his chance to become my greater fool. Their logic is quite simple: "it looks like it's going to go up but it is crashing now. 1000 is too much, 300 is right, let me put a bid at 350-450."
I think there are many of them this time. This month we'll see them fighting with the butthurt fools who want out of bitcoin.

Yeah... I see those kind of people saying $1000 is too much and then they want lower... then it goes lower and then they want lower.. and then it goes lower and they say, "shit, I cannot buy when prices are this low, b/c it may go down lower"   They say, let me think about it... then they buy when it is going up and then they sell when it goes back down.. and blame you for getting them into it.
One of the biggest mistakes made by new traders is not incorporating TIME into their calculations.

or they weren't around when Tera showed us how to setup a proper limit buy/sell orderbook for themselves. From memory you increase the amount btc bought as the price goes down but use the same fiat value for each staggered buy.

Either way I <3 square trade, I also wait patiently for market reversal upon dark clouds dissipating.



1324. Post 6013821 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: spooderman on April 01, 2014, 06:42:41 AM
bit of chooing suddenly

a day to absorb the news.

my guess is we punch close to 500 if panic buying occurs...perhaps all the Fiat has finally be credited over at stamp



1325. Post 6013887 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: YogoH on April 01, 2014, 06:47:19 AM
Buys like this mean someone knows something...

ummm maybe if I see 3-5 3k+ re buys I'll assume the shorting has been slowed now.

beaker is going bonkers on my bitcoinity lol



1326. Post 6013929 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: spooderman on April 01, 2014, 06:53:30 AM
who is leading this, china?

their action started back when I mentioned them getting above 2800, price wise btc-e was really bullish and this seems to have bled into all markets atm Cheesy

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 01, 2014, 03:07:00 AM
Bitcoinity has Gonzo as the background.
IIRC it's Beaker.

I think you are right.  It's been a long time since I saw the Muppets..

+2 beaker Cheesy

2800 on huobi, the first pump begins soon? debating.. it should imo but there is still a bit of uncertainty out there. Plus all the shorts that would have to close eventually



1327. Post 6014020 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: BTCfan1 on April 01, 2014, 07:00:24 AM
pretty exciting watching the price go up like this...

oct-dec 13' I saw an ATH every week... my mind was blown



1328. Post 6014066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 01, 2014, 07:05:41 AM
This Chinese thread seems to say that bank deposit (?) at OKCoin was still working today (Apr/01) around 09:00 local time.

Thought it was clarified via bter that they were closing third party partners not a blanket ban.

IN the end, there was NO real news with any of this China FUD over the past two weeks-ish.. it was pretty much the same news as had come out in December 2013... just some rephrasing or recirculation.. but materially NOTHING really new.

uh I consider the website directly addressing what was sent to them real. At least a stance based on something they we're enforced to follow.



1329. Post 6014078 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: TERA on April 01, 2014, 07:06:05 AM
Huobi and bitfinex and leading. There is a short squeeze in bitfinex from everyone who was shorting when 465 was broken expecting a huge drop. There is more volume on bitfinex in that spike than on bitstamp, which means all of it could be coming from bitfinex.

the squeeze was on stamp and BFX, but china put the pressure on, its been nudging up consistently all day. can one short on huobi? dont think so.
Yeah I guess exchanges are still following Huobi like a zombie. As long as China is still leading I am bearish because China is doomed to fail and what happens then?

unless they buy it up Cheesy and they end up hoarding to empower their own Cheesy ..but wait.. they wouldnt.. would they?

I feel if this is going to be a proper squeeze within an hr we see it occur Cheesy



1330. Post 6014145 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

I think I am going to go squeeze me some fresh orange juice Cheesy



1331. Post 6014543 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 01, 2014, 07:42:43 AM
This Chinese thread seems to say that bank deposit (?) at OKCoin was still working today (Apr/01) around 09:00 local time.

Thought it was clarified via bter that they were closing third party partners not a blanket ban.

IN the end, there was NO real news with any of this China FUD over the past two weeks-ish.. it was pretty much the same news as had come out in December 2013... just some rephrasing or recirculation.. but materially NOTHING really new.

uh I consider the website directly addressing what was sent to them real. At least a stance based on something they we're enforced to follow.

In this rant, I was NOT alleging that the news was NOT real, I was just asserting that it was NOT new... NOTHING materially different from what we already knew in December 2013.  There may have been different words or a different font or two spaces after the periods.. and things like that.. but nothing significantly different from what was already known in December 2013.

what I learned from their statement that I hadn't gathered from any other FUD past or present was this time the pboc went to the third party  payment processors opposed to the exchange, which I don't believe is ever directly addressed. The solution for BTER could be as easy as getting a commercial bank account. It just looks like the pboc is narrowing the channels without direction intervention at an exchange.



1332. Post 6014793 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

China weighs over day traders heads, as it requires them to be on point with stupid foreign social media commentary.. but this was exacerbated by goxxin leaving people free to panic on rumors at will.



1333. Post 6014847 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 01, 2014, 06:44:40 AM
bit of chooing suddenly

a day to absorb the news.

my guess is we punch close to 500 if panic buying occurs...perhaps all the Fiat has finally be credited over at stamp

queue smug self quotes for insta ingnores....

510 already wow.. hmm lets see if this goes all trappy on us or we break free of bearish fear.



1334. Post 6027600 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: surfer43 on April 02, 2014, 03:06:36 AM
WHERE IS THE VOLUME?  Huh


everybody is hodling Cheesy



1335. Post 6030734 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: kurious on April 02, 2014, 08:55:21 AM
There's going to be some serious fallout from the NeoBee situation.

Danny has just made a statement and closed the official thread -- death threats against kids --- the BTC-space is going to look even more ugly.

I don't quite get whats happened over there with NeoBee, can you summarise?

Only rumours so far - but something is up:

http://www.binaryoptionswire.com/something-wrong-neo/

Thought this was old news, or did people just bury it in the back of their minds during last weeks China fear fest. I remember reading about the suspension couple days back at least.



1336. Post 6030805 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 02, 2014, 09:11:31 AM
Feeling fear again.
The bid side looks enormous but I think it is fake as it always has been during the crash. (Coinbase/SecondMarket bots?)
The ask side looks thin and that is probably real. Whoever wanted to sell already did before.
If no new money comes in, prices naturally drop slowly because fees.
And market apathy doesn't do good to bitcoin. Makes hodlers go nervous.

I think this is the epitome of a bear market condition. Bitcoin is currently inflationary, so without a certain amount of new money coming in, the market goes down.

There are a lot of bids down to 400. But if they were so eager to buy, why are they not buying? Whats the difference between 400 and 470?  Granted, its 17.5%, but still if they wanted the coins so bad, they are right there for the taking.

In my opinion, the longer we don't go up, the more likely we are to go down. Its already Wednesday in most places. We have about 36 hours to make an upwards move, in my opinion, or there are going to be some selling going on.

Of course, I guess we could just inch down like we did from 710 slowly and surely.


I find it a lot more difficult to take someone serious when they are asking silly ass questions.  We (bullish ones) do NOT know if the market is moving up or down in the short-term.. surely the bullish ones have been buying, and BTC has been in the $400s for 3 days... I am sure many bullish have already bought.. but maybe would buy more if there was some certainty about whether in the short term we were going up or down... even though in the long run the bullish ones are expecting BTC to go up.... I bought some in the $440s, in the $450s and in the $480s in recent days.  Generally, I am waiting, though I may buy again in the $450s, but if it is possible that the price will go to the low $400s, then I would prefer to buy there.  Anyhow, your statement seems just to attempt to incite argument just for the sake of argument... b/c truly you should be able to figure out the answer to such.





FTFY, I missed my chance to get some coins that would've lowered my buy in price but it was just pure laziness to blame



1337. Post 6030978 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: Zule on April 02, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Here's the link to Danny's statement

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.160;topicseen

its at the bottom of the page.
Technical issue, the money is there. Old news anyway, nothing to see...

wouldn't write it off as a pure technical issues...I mean if the guy had his daughters life threatened that shits is pretty insane.

not really a bitcoin issue though, any business can fail.. banks as well.



1338. Post 6031198 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

profit taking has to be done, wonder if the buying pressure will bust through it all. Then people start going long. Awww time will tell.



1339. Post 6031403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 02, 2014, 10:00:13 AM
profit taking has to be done, wonder if the buying pressure will bust through it all. Then people start going long. Awww time will tell.

... Profit taking you say. I think a lot of people will be taking a loss tonight.

How so bull trap? or all the shorts being called in on a big run if its happens.. I guess it is night in China but it's 6am Eastern Standard Time Cheesy



1340. Post 6033013 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

mild dumping volume wise. but who really thought the bears wouldn't put up a fight Cheesy



1341. Post 6033447 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/220c86/china_ban_ft_article_beyond_the_paywall/

seems awfully well timed FUD Cheesy well, I would love to see PBOC JUST FUCKING SAY SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN.



1342. Post 6033537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Need to get money to exchanges that way I can give a fuck if its goes down or not fack lol

they said wallstreet wasn't coming tho ... http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11806/atlas-2-0-trading-platform-announces-options-bitcoin/



1343. Post 6033749 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 02, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
You will see the end of this bear market by these following indicators.

1) The price will go lower then most expected
2) The price will remain low longer then most expected
3) The loudest and the most enthusiastic bulls will start to blame bitcoin and everyone involved for the situation and then write dramatic final speeches of them leaving.

If you will get tired of seeing indicator 3, then it's time to buy, not before.

oh thats cute, you are obviously new here.

I rode the great bear market, I am turning bullish because of #3.

yeah they think common sense is what we're all lacking.

oh well I agree with Tera at least on this idea we can have Huobi leading the charge.. mind you I don't fully believe they are at any risk of a deposit shutdown...I am thinking these odd man out exchanges weren't following dec 5 compliance



1344. Post 6035034 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

here we go, dumpy time

hmm valiant effort from the buyers there to slow that drop



1345. Post 6035224 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 02, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
weird to see a flash crash, but refreshing

weird.. what.. lol .. a rumor from pboc.. + 2 minor exchanges having deposit method halted a day apart and a perfect foggy fear ridden atmosphere for da bears. Day traders making loot bears losing coins, hodlers eating popcorn, sodlers debating rebuys such is the life of a bitcoiner



1346. Post 6035349 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: seleme on April 02, 2014, 03:07:14 PM
FXBTC announcement. Guess this one caused the last dump. God helps us when BTCCHina and Huobi do theirs:

Quote
Today, FXBTC site management as some of its peers, as a number of commercial banks received a phone call asking the bank to cancel the account as soon as possible, in order to strengthen the implementation of the central bank issued the notice bitcoin risk prevention work, and some banks have even asked tomorrow cancel the account, FXBTC clarify that the incident was not a rumor, the central bank issued a notice requiring any real commercial banks and third-party payment institutions may not provide clearing services for Bitcoin business, demanding the closure of funds between accounts all bitcoin related sites, FXBTC While it has been hard for the majority of users, offers a variety of prepaid withdrawals channels, but the requirements for the banks immediately cancel the account, otherwise it will freeze the requirements of the account, can not do anything, the company discussed and decided, at 0:00 on April 3, 2014 before no longer deal with the bank recharge after Sunday, suspend business banking Katy is currently TenPay recharge withdrawals yet to receive any notice, you can continue to use, the inconvenience caused to you we apologize.

If 420 is breached I think we could see an YTL (on stamp). If I sodl it be to buy and hodl again at the next ban bottom...so I'd rather just wire some money to the exchange instead of trying day trade Cheesy



1347. Post 6035430 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.31h):

Quote from: hd060053 on April 02, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
bullish so far

10k dump bullish ?  Huh

well 3 exchanges from china facing pressures and we have broke the local rumor based crash lows Cheesy I guess this is what bulls what you to gleam.

for disclosure I am a hodler



1348. Post 6044326 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

if 420 holds on stamp I remain fearless of the bears.. I think they should be trying harder to break that number.



1349. Post 6044382 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: aminorex on April 03, 2014, 12:55:35 AM
if 420 holds on stamp I remain fearless of the bears.. I think they should be trying harder to break that number.

amen! try harder bears!

if you get it down to 300, i might get scared and dump at market.



no need to dump at market just send some money to exchanges (eughhh we should've done that 3 days ago LOL). Unless you got a nice stash and the day trading stash can be used to buy in lower.. which is why I think we could see 300 if 420 breaks.



1350. Post 6046151 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: solex on April 03, 2014, 04:09:41 AM
I think they knew they needed to be well capitalised, it was unfortunate there capital was stored on We-Funder and Gox.  Again, we see the secondary impacts of the initial failures.

And now LMB will have further impacts down stream. 
The only hope for Neo now is that someone like BitPay comes in and takes it over, which would further centralize BTC and is another nail in the 'libertarian' coffin.

So, wasn't Neo a form of bitcoin bank. You would think they could have held their own capital rather than leave it in the hands of others, and gox, what were they thinking?!

pretty sure he held his own coins at gox not investor or business coins.



1351. Post 6046328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

I just want okcoin and huobi to have a deposit halt so we can see what a true bottom is.. I want more coins to hodl Cheesy



1352. Post 6046480 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: BitChick on April 03, 2014, 04:53:19 AM
Lets face it guys we're a bit fucked. The bottom line is that all money in Bitcoin eventually needs to move through the exchanges and people aren't willing to trust the exchanges. So all that BTC thats gone may affect the price upwards in the uber long term due to lack of supply, but if there isn't a safe way to express demand, supply matters not. We'll recover but this might be another 2 year ride (no guarantees, but it seems like a real possibility). I sat through one I can sit through another though, I guess.

Cheer up people.  Take a look at this chart from the "other TA" thread and realize that we are in such a great position right now.  The trendline is almost freakishly identical to the trend from 2010 -2011 to the trend we are on now from 2013 till now.  If it stays on the same path we are looking at $10,000 or even more easily on the next rise in price.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg6032075#msg6032075

I am not worried just displeased that Pboc is so shadowy with the rulings.. but fiat has it slaves.



1353. Post 6046559 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: BitChick on April 03, 2014, 05:00:25 AM
Lets face it guys we're a bit fucked. The bottom line is that all money in Bitcoin eventually needs to move through the exchanges and people aren't willing to trust the exchanges. So all that BTC thats gone may affect the price upwards in the uber long term due to lack of supply, but if there isn't a safe way to express demand, supply matters not. We'll recover but this might be another 2 year ride (no guarantees, but it seems like a real possibility). I sat through one I can sit through another though, I guess.

Cheer up people.  Take a look at this chart from the "other TA" thread and realize that we are in such a great position right now.  The trendline is almost freakishly identical to the trend from 2010 -2011 to the trend we are on now from 2013 till now.  If it stays on the same path we are looking at $10,000 or even more easily on the next rise in price.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg6032075#msg6032075

I am not worried just displeased that Pboc is so shadowy with the rulings.. but fiat has it slaves.

April 15th will come and go. The price might not move much before then, or up a little perhaps, but when everyone realizes that Bitcoin isn't going to "zero" things will get interesting once again.  

I don't think it's going to zero, just even if the news was clear, we could have a quicker turn over of weak hands.. Right now it is just to profitable not to short btc on the uncertainty for the day traders atleast



1354. Post 6048064 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

not that I am optimistic or pessimistic but the 415-420 range for me was a psychological breaking point on selling for certain people as it can build a sodl momentum to bring us to a new ATL this year with the next exchange out of China saying our deposit option is going on hold because of said policy...I told my friends we'd see 3xx coins if 420 broke I don't mind being wrong but I hope they're ready to buy some (400-600 was where a couple wanted to grab 1 or 2 ), we got two ATMs downtown plus local bitcoins Cheesy




1355. Post 6049129 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

OKCoin pause prepaid card, bank transfer prepaid cards are not affected
Dear OKCoin users:
As the third-party payment card dealer just received notification mechanism to suspend payment channel, OKCoin will be at 0:00 on April 3 before stopping prepaid card, bank transfer recharge card unaffected yuan withdrawals are not affected, to give us apologize for the inconvenience.


From google webpage translation for OKCOIN saw a reddit post didnt trust the link so I went searching on my own...more and more it looks like just these third party guys are going to be squeezed out of the chain.




1356. Post 6049179 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 03, 2014, 09:51:42 AM


Are you on board?

forever



1357. Post 6049252 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: darklight on April 03, 2014, 09:56:29 AM
OKCoin pause prepaid card, bank transfer prepaid cards are not affected
Dear OKCoin users:
As the third-party payment card dealer just received notification mechanism to suspend payment channel, OKCoin will be at 0:00 on April 3 before stopping prepaid card, bank transfer recharge card unaffected yuan withdrawals are not affected, to give us apologize for the inconvenience.


From google webpage translation for OKCOIN saw a reddit post didnt trust the link so I went searching on my own...more and more it looks like just these third party guys are going to be squeezed out of the chain.


Or just that their bank hasn't sent them notification yet that their main account is going to be blocked. It seems like PBoC isn't dealing with the exchanges directly, so they are just getting calls out of the blue from their providers telling them that as of tomorrow something isn't going to be working. Explains why all the exchanges are denying getting the notices - they are as much in the dark as we are

its well known that the PBOC sent these to the third party payment systems and not the exchanges...I would imagine ..that as always Chinese self censor themselves.. they don't wait for deadlines to fall in line...so the big banks holding off on letting these guys know is far fetched.



1358. Post 6049350 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: darklight on April 03, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
OKCoin pause prepaid card, bank transfer prepaid cards are not affected
Dear OKCoin users:
As the third-party payment card dealer just received notification mechanism to suspend payment channel, OKCoin will be at 0:00 on April 3 before stopping prepaid card, bank transfer recharge card unaffected yuan withdrawals are not affected, to give us apologize for the inconvenience.


From google webpage translation for OKCOIN saw a reddit post didnt trust the link so I went searching on my own...more and more it looks like just these third party guys are going to be squeezed out of the chain.


Or just that their bank hasn't sent them notification yet that their main account is going to be blocked. It seems like PBoC isn't dealing with the exchanges directly, so they are just getting calls out of the blue from their providers telling them that as of tomorrow something isn't going to be working. Explains why all the exchanges are denying getting the notices - they are as much in the dark as we are

its well known that the PBOC sent these to the third party payment systems and not the exchanges...I would imagine ..that as always Chinese self censor themselves.. they don't wait for deadlines to fall in line...so the big banks holding off on letting these guys know is far fetched.
Well the banks and third parties have got until April 15th to implement. I don't think its particularly far fetched at this point to expect that there will be some more announcements before then relating to deposits to exchange's main banking accounts.

Its good in a way, at least we know the deadline for when all this nonsense will be over

They'll be in line prior to April 15th no doubt in my mind.. the question is..whether or not they're will be anything new.. this all to me is what was not to be allowed following the policy changes made in Dec 2013

People spent all of Jan saying there was an imaginary deadline to a ban hammer...they just fabricate a new reason to keep the ban hammer looming.. what is looming is the PBoC tweaking capital controls ..they know if they actually go with a full out ban then the real rush to get money into btc and out of the country is on.



1359. Post 6049491 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 03, 2014, 10:21:16 AM
So easily the table turns

I mean we're not out of the weeds by any means the dumpers can re instill fear of further ramifications ..but my guess continues to seem accurate that pboc is forcing compliance as well they're keeping the channels they can monitor capital flight and btc as the only channel to facilitate crypto purchases.


I am rather cheesed I didn't give the old hedge in to the low of ltc and profit as it follows btc up Cheesy



1360. Post 6049756 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 03, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Personally I dont think the decline is over yet, Huobi will come with a statement that confirms the PBoC news. Don't be fooled, Chinese people have a way other culture when it comes to communication than most westerners.  

did you not read that they to released an announcement related to the third party payment system halting its business with them and every other chinese exchange..both them and okcoin this morning (canada) and both have no issues with the regular bank recharge option ? you think there is something they have yet to speak about that they will then issue behind doors to regular pboc banks to stop them from dealing with exchanges as well?



1361. Post 6049807 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: TeeBone on April 03, 2014, 10:52:20 AM
ha ha, now were trying to go to the moon, i was beginning to think this whole thing was orchestrated from day one, after yesterday i'm convinced

Aww, dont be cruel lol At this point, all the bulls can cheer about are mini pumps that'll soon be dumped.

You talk the same way the bulls did when bitcoin was heading towards its ath of 2013 and until China "banned", pumped the breaks w/e you wanna call it they we're talking out their asses to an equivalent level. I assume the same thing will occur on this side. I don't claim to know anything about when.



1362. Post 6049834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: TERA on April 03, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
quick someone cook up some 'hot news' so we can have an epic bulltrap for me to short.

nothing effects the markets like direct statements from exchanges and governments. the rest of these media outlets are speculating as much as we are.



1363. Post 6050491 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: podyx on April 03, 2014, 11:41:50 AM


bears gonna go long to squeeze the bulls lol Cheesy



1364. Post 6051460 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: FlyingLotus on April 03, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
I don't understand that google translate of huobi news. It surely doesn't mean they're closing the doors?

Does it relate to the third-party involvement for transactions?

Difficult to tell

pretty sure there are better translated statements out their. OKCOIN also released one. both highlighting third party recharge options being kaput .. but their regular banking deposit methods was fine.. and huobi mentioned upgrading it to 24/7 service.



1365. Post 6052312 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on April 03, 2014, 01:51:23 PM
Key points of Huobi's announcement:

1. Huobi has checked with their third party payment service providers and banks and was informed that no instruction from PBOC had been received.
2. Huobi will stop all third party payment services on 05-04-2014.
3. Huobi will ramp up its manpower to 7*24 on internet fund transfer. All bank deposits and withdrawals are not affected.
really?

china ban doesn't affect Huobi??

China ban? Source? Caixin? If you trust Caixin, then yes. Huobi says they and their financial partners have not received the news from PBOC yet.

"The new announcements are the latest indication that China’s central bank, the People’s Bank of China (PBOC), may be following through on its decision to more actively enforce prior rulings related to how domestic financial service providers can interact with the bitcoin exchanges.

For example, while OKCoin was contacted by its third-party processor, FXBTC has been contacted by commercial banking providers."

http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-okcoin-fxbtc-report-new-deposit-freezes/

ya we all know that

so why is Huobi not saying the same thing?

How about this - Huobi = People's Bitcoin Bank of China ?

Socialism at work gentlemen

 Wink

not a half bad theory  Tongue

With Chinese news you always have to read between the lines.

China is the FUD generator

How did huobi not say the same thing?



1366. Post 6052647 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

As I understood it from another source was that Huobi was trying to contact the PBoC and received no further clarifications other then the Dec 5th policies. As for closing of the TopUp re-charge method whaddya know a self censoring Chinese exchanges..who' da thunk it.

Oh welll 24/7 deposit service until april 15th  Cool eheheh

CCMF



1367. Post 6053996 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: seleme on April 03, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
Trains and all of that stuff  Grin

I'm not playing this one yet though, I should but I'll play safe this time.

365 coin buy just to make the 2hr macd cross Cheesy its like fireworks next stop 4hr? huobi



1368. Post 6054375 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

really pushing to get the 4hr to set off panic buyers.. then I would agree with those who expect the bull trap. I can't imagine anyone in China really feeling bullish.. unless they're in a fine china store.

4hr crosses : D



1369. Post 6054432 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Tera ..they're doing it again... stamp over reacting to Huobi rallies :S eugh

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1370. Post 6054504 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

4hr crossed back due to the much pump quick dump..imagine the fireworks if we get a strong crossing 4hr Cheesy



1371. Post 6055115 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: windjc on April 03, 2014, 04:52:21 PM
Just read Houbi's statement. So they are stopping 3rd party deposits April 5th.

Seems like 3rd party processors are gone across the board - all Chinese exchanges. Seems like bank deposits are still on across the board.

Seems like 3rd party processors were much more popular deposit choice (at least that's my understanding).

But price rises on the news. Lets see if we can break above 3000.



only one of their 3rd party payment processors thought it would be risky to continue doing business

they also plan to offer 24/7 bank deposit service Cheesy

Decent read on the Texan's stand point towards crypto http://www.dob.texas.gov/lg_manual/sm1037.pdf



1372. Post 6059261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: FelixO on April 03, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
The last weeks I have continuously managed to short at the bottom. Every single short that I managed to hold through the psychological stress of rising prices has provided me with more than healthy gains. As it turns out almost every day's bottom seems to be the new high two days after.

If that is not a bear market than I don't know what it is. I have troubles believing that this rise is enough to get us out of this trend.

anyone saying it isn't a bear market is delusional. I am a permabull and hodler, and this I know to be true of the current and past months btc market.



1373. Post 6063960 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Huobi volume picking up who knows the news before its news?



1374. Post 6064411 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 04, 2014, 06:00:58 AM
420 will be tested within 12hrs. It might be briefly breached but 420 is very strong resistance and will HODL!

Brace yourselves!

Looking at huobi it seems like 420 might not even be tested (bitstamp)

I feel we're on a psychological see-saw, the bears are all on one side the bulls dipping toes from the middle into bear territory and then there are the hodlers on the opposite side. I rode out the dips to 380 without selling in the lows so this should be a cake walk Cheesy I figure trend reversal will be sparked eventually by a new fund similar to Second Market or Winkle Trust kind of draining the supply of coins. I figure a fair bit of bulls have to get burnt due to the amount of despair in the air Cheesy



1375. Post 6065214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: TERA on April 04, 2014, 07:44:50 AM
You guys are still calling the China bank situation FUD even after btc38 and another Chinese exchange stopped deposits? Are you just going to continue to shout 'FUD' as they drop one by one around you, until there is only one left and you're still saying FUD because there's still that one...  Is it because you're listening to Bobby Lee's statements? Bobby Lee is a pumper and a liar.

no because there is nothing to verify any plans of a ban. they just issued demands for compliance with the policy set out in dec 5. but now people are expecting a jan 31st deadline on april 15th



1376. Post 6065424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: TERA on April 04, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
You guys are still calling the China bank situation FUD even after btc38 and another Chinese exchange stopped deposits? Are you just going to continue to shout 'FUD' as they drop one by one around you, until there is only one left and you're still saying FUD because there's still that one...  Is it because you're listening to Bobby Lee's statements? Bobby Lee is a pumper and a liar.

no because there is nothing to verify any plans of a ban. they just issued demands for compliance with the policy set out in dec 5. but now people are expecting a jan 31st deadline on april 15th

So you acknowledge that the PBOC is demanding that the exchanges stop the banking, and that the exchanges are disobeying. How can this possibly be bullish? Your whole case is that that you believe that no enforcement action will ever happen - The PBOC or the chinese government is never going to enforce the demands of PBOC and actually shut down the accounts. Right? That's pretty weak. That was the same story in the last 3 false recoveries. It's like you're just asking for more punishment now. You know that inevitably it's going to happen, and that any recovery or bounce is false because we haven't actually recovered and moved on from Chinese banking influence. I suppose this one last little denial is perfect for a little bounce to fill in the rest of the triangle before it breaks down.

The PBoC contacted third party deposit facilitators not the exchanges, hell in Canada all the major banks stopped allowing bill payment as a method to deposit @ cryptocurrency exchanges. Which was my cheapest option now its direct withdrawal from my bank account. My guess they don't want to miss out on the fees they could be earning.

So to be clear I am saying PBoC is doing what they do, enforcing the policy. It was also stated that someone even went as far as to report a third party payment processor to the PBoC for breaking said policy... the policy being PBoC decides what banks could be used, their banks.

Obviously the third party voucher system or re-charge cards operated in a grey area for a time, so be it there is less option to deposit now but that isn't going to mimic the effect of a ban that the market priced in.

You yourself mentioned not believing we could leave the bear market behind until these Chinese exchanges are dead and gone like gox. I think they' can exist after the bear market just fine. I also don't think this recent movement is the sign of the bear market ending just a bit of people who wanted to lock up some hodling material among people squeezing each others margin positions.



1377. Post 6066168 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

yea and a whale could leverage himself as an ocean then.



1378. Post 6066807 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

I for some reason enjoy the lagging macd, however we need buying pressure through Friday to get us to cross 12hr and 1d macd.

We shall see, and the last time we had the 12hr cross it was smashd down to the resistance levels...we can gauge the market a bit imo off of the reactions.



1379. Post 6066929 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 04, 2014, 10:44:40 AM
Mini rally still catalysed by China though.

BTC China news would be the catalyst. Figured as much. Now others will just say BTCC word that the bank hasn't received any warnings. Gox has left everyone severely paranoid, rightly so but I really doubt on April 15th the bank will get a ring from the PBoC in regards to the shadow policy Cheesy

1D chart and the news, that range of 2410 bottom on Huobi looks like the Bear Manipulations last effort at causing mass panic. Barring a rogue twitter confirmation of a blanket ban, slow grind upwards begin.



1380. Post 6067000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: TERA on April 04, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
On an intraday scale, China chart is looking bearish now with a false breakout. It is going to fall again and then take at least another 1-2 days to consolidate before we can really break out (to +$465 on stamp), if nothing bad happens in the meantime.

in an hr and 6 minute I'll weigh in on it being fake or not.. could die down for a bit then a bull manipulator can push it to trigger 12h* and get anothe wave of panic buying.



1381. Post 6067044 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

eugh...I should really be buying.. analyzing is less fun...



1382. Post 6067080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 04, 2014, 11:02:45 AM
eugh...I should really be buying.. analyzing is less fun...

great time to buy and HODL. maybe not great time for a day trader. you would need to get in at 425  Cool

I got in at 142.50 and even in the 900.00 range such is the life of a hodler buying at all sorts of points but mainly now at points that will lower abp



1383. Post 6067280 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

huobi going for tthe long target



1384. Post 6067410 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

hoping the 600 at 2780 get sold



1385. Post 6067504 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

next push in 15 minute my guess Cheesy



1386. Post 6068386 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

who? what? despair? huh?



1387. Post 6068544 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 04, 2014, 01:13:22 PM
who? what? despair? huh?


No, despair would be dumping my whole stack and cashing out rather than waiting for suckers to buy my overpriced coins. Despair was closing my leveraged long position at $478, losing over six thousand dollars and saving myself from getting wiped out. The hardest and best trade I've ever made. The worst trade was taking the leveraged long position in the first place in the face of the same market conditions we have right now.

Hubris can get this best of us at times, none the less I don't margin trade nor have the stomach for it. I might after I give a year of hodling its time.

I remember reading you we're going long I just didn't know why you chose to do that following gox on Chinese *rumors* that we're semi confirmed.



1388. Post 6068728 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

if 2636 holds on huobi I think they'll continue on a short term uptrend Cheesy



1389. Post 6068760 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

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1390. Post 6068961 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 04, 2014, 01:43:39 PM
and a bounce back in 3.2.1...

still punctured that fib point briefly.. I dunno .. oh who hasn't sold me < the hodlers LOL



1391. Post 6069000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: podyx on April 04, 2014, 01:47:07 PM


test positive. if this is news, then it is very precise.

Hard to break that line Undecided

China understands bitcoin sheeple all to well Cheesy



1392. Post 6069087 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

http://www.weibo.com/btc38?topnav=1&wvr=5&topsug=1 btc38 not okcoin or are they posting news related to okcoin its seems hard to decipher, with the placement of okcoin at the very end.



1393. Post 6079176 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

been a while since huobi lead stamp price wise Cheesy



1394. Post 6079266 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: SlipperySlope on April 05, 2014, 05:09:26 AM
been a while since huobi lead stamp price wise Cheesy

On the 6-hour chart there are more green candles at HuoBi. Interesting. Everyone is wondering if the bottom is behind us.

for clarity I am a perma bull. We won't know if this is done till were on higher volume and well in to the 500s, sadly rumors can still break us...the bullbears will possibly be our next sacrificial hands. However I remain positive towards a slow grind up, I thought 1k in June made a lot more sense than in Dec.

Compare the volume of coins rebought on the bigger dumps march 27 on the 1day @ Huobi the 28th has nearly the same volume but not nearly the same price adjustment.  Also noticed on the April 2nd dump. I think if you based it on volume we should have retraced in price 100% @ Huobi

Stamp shows a slightly different story on the same dates in the following recoveries. Where stamp shows what I think to be the aspect of fee's on trades as well a bearish sentiment



1395. Post 6081205 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 05, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
On Huobi the buy walls are slowly disappearing, while the sell walls are increasing. Personally i think Huobi is just giving their Chinese investors an option to get out without too many losses.

You mean all the high volume Chinese exchanges?

Did huobi re iterate what btcc said?

Either way .. I think China has weak hands shook



1396. Post 6081235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 05, 2014, 10:20:47 AM
On Huobi the buy walls are slowly disappearing, while the sell walls are increasing. Personally i think Huobi is just giving their Chinese investors an option to get out without too many losses.

You mean all the high volume Chinese exchanges?


Do you know what is happening behind the scenes of these exchanges?

of course I don't I go by what they post on their webpages. but I have nothing to dispute their statement



1397. Post 6081256 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 05, 2014, 10:23:09 AM
Huobi bears woke up to dump

There was a shortage of red candles at the shop. New supplies arrived in the morning and revived the bears' hopes... But some of them will have to be left in the dark.

I am about ready to go to sleep.. how low should I set my buys on BTC e?  maybe $423?  We cannot really expect to go much lower than that, no?

staggering em buying more as it goes lower towards your chosen bottom I'd use something lower than the last ATL the only news that dumps us back there is like a main Chinese exchanges losing bank privileges.



1398. Post 6089307 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 05, 2014, 10:16:19 PM

Did you switch to Bitstamp now that your upwards support line on Huobi has been broken?

Funny guy. I am not binary, but this is an important break through.
I was nervous that the wedge was gonna break down, I even stated this in an earlier post, and then everyone said "ooh chessnut's changed his mind again" like tossers.





I went to bed feeling I'd wake up to this price, starting to feeling safer as does the market. Monday could be make or break, as no bad news = continued recovery



1399. Post 6090426 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

2900 should break in 4-8hrs my guess.



1400. Post 6091653 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 06, 2014, 03:09:54 AM
the next dump could be brutal

For the dumper yes. Who would dump at these prices?

I just market sold 3 BTC @ $465.  If this shit continues, I'll double that and then double it again. Then I'll leverage short.

You risk losing all your gains. With leverage, you risk going underwater. Your whole bitcoin experience could be a drain on your wealth. It could turn to a liability. To a total fiasco.

Why this risky behaviour?



Yeah, but if he is saying that he bought in at $10 per BTC.. and in another post he said that his average is below $40  er BTC... He should have a whole hell of a lot of room for playing around and taking risks....   if that is 1,000 or more BTC, which I kind of doubt it to be that much.... but who knows?  working with incomplete information, here... and that is why it is difficult to judge another persons investment strategy without knowing some particulars.

And we all gotta admit that BTC is very much up and down... even though sometimes it seems fucked like we are on our way in one direction, we get the returns back down to some extent.. and if we get a sudden shoot up.. and then who the hell wants to wait 2 months or even 6 months for a flash crash to recover from that?


He could, obviously, conceptually divide his bitcoin stash into two parts, holding one part and speculating with the other part. That would ease his risk a bit. Regardless, shorting the risk part with leverage, it could eat into his hold part, and even erase it, he could still go underwater, both parts taken as a whole.

Edit: He also says he has used credit to buy coins, that means he is leveraged also on his longs, which could take hime out also on the long part if he is unlucky. So that pretty much nullifies my argument, I guess.

In the end, it depends on the price going up. Which I happen to think is a safe bet, but I understand everybody does not agree on that.

The VAST majority of my coins are in cold storage. I am betting my trading stash that the market is going down, but if I am wrong, I win more than I lose.

Rpiella sounding statement, true none the less



1401. Post 6091692 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 06, 2014, 12:13:15 AM
2900 should break in 4-8hrs my guess.

lol self quoting is fun Cheesy wonder if 3000 becomes the new target



1402. Post 6091776 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: Erdogan on April 06, 2014, 03:21:55 AM
2900 should break in 4-8hrs my guess.

lol self quoting is fun Cheesy wonder if 3000 becomes the new target

Nice.



Not so much wonder as much as late Sunday it should occur if the recent trend holds. Monday can help us judge how bearish Tera really is based on a weekend of no dumps



1403. Post 6092257 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 06, 2014, 04:36:16 AM
This plot may be of interest:

The red line shows how much one's investment would have been multiplied, on a yearly basis, if one had bought bitcoins at various dates in the past on Bitstamp and sold them on April 01, 2014.  

Thus, for example, if one bought bitcoins at almost any time between December 2011 and November 2013, and sold them on April 01 at 480 USD/BTC (the approximate price on that date), one's  investment would have grown by about a factor of 10 each year, ie., at 900% return over investment per year on the average.

(Unless one bought at the April 2013 peak, in which case the average return rate would have been "only" 200% per year)

On the other hand, if one bought bitcoins in December 2013 or later, and sold on April 01 at 480,  one's investment would have shrunk by a factor of 10 or more per year, that is, at least 90%  loss per year on the average.

(Unless one bought in the last half of December or within a short interval in February, in which case one would have almost recovered one's investment.)

The other two plots show what would have happened if the price on April 01 was 300 USD/BTC (lower line) or 600 USD/BTC (upper line).

Note that, in all three scenarios, the yearly appreciation rate would be almost the same for early investors (about 900% per year), and the lucky/unlucky break date would be nearly the same (second half of November).   If the Apr/01 price had been 600, someone who bought at the right time during the February crash would have made a profit, but otherwise the late (post-November) investors would still have lost ~80% per year.

surely you mean would have realized a loss if they sold during q1 and early q2 2014? I'll perhaps sell this coin I bought in nov if the price is right.



1404. Post 6095132 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

bear trap or dump candle.. not sure what to do now. go to sleep or make a bowl of popcorn



1405. Post 6095720 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 06, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
The volume post-emptyGox seems so low that one has to wonder just how much of this rise to 1200 was actually caused by the virtually virtual GoxUSD

well really, how can the volume continue when it is all confiscated?

I mean when I look at the volume in Nov. it was clear people were just not willing to part with their coins. There was lower vol. back in the rally to 1200 then during the goxxin.. people were freaking the fuck out believing the rumor not believing the rumor



1406. Post 6105578 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

bulls and bears in despair.. while the hodlers debate how many coins a stash really needs Cheesy

cheerio carry on market, carry on.



1407. Post 6106378 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.33h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 07, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
This gradual upward trend should continue for another 18 hours at least, until the banks reopen on Tuesday morning in China.

After that, if there are no other bad news, or (better) the April 15 rumor is denied, perhaps this trend will continue (or accelerate) up to the range 3000--3500 CNY = 485--570 USD, where it was before the rumor  I do not see why it would rise beyond that.

If the April 15 rumor is confirmed, I expect another substantial drop, perhaps stretched out until that date.  It seems pointless to speculate beyond that, since the shape of the world will have changed.

momentum generally is enough to explain the why in regards to the over shooting. I think the rocket to 1200 was just excess momentum...I thought $1000 in June was uber bullish lol

I guess the holiday leaves us with a little bit more sideways but this time tomorrow we can debate what unfurls



1408. Post 6108068 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Can you smell the disbear? woops despair?



1409. Post 6116914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: aminorex on April 07, 2014, 09:58:44 PM
Wow. I can watch any major exchange doing no trades at all for a minute or more.

5PM Eastern U.S. is always that way.  Incredibly slow.  Doesn't pick up until China wakes up.


+1 ... be bullish even my Dad wants more bitcoin and he thought we hit the 300s already lol and he knows my avg. buy in price is higher than that.



1410. Post 6117563 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

let the next 6-12 hrs define us then Cheesy .. Tuesday for china will have begun : D



1411. Post 6120326 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 08, 2014, 01:37:18 AM
"an old trend may not be your friend."

we're in a reversal... weather it drops lower or not is irrelevant.

How can it be a reversal without resolution on the China Issue? The Chinese have hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of BTC to dump if they panic when one of the major exchanges goes dark. They will be a minor force for fiat flow into BTC for a long time and a potentially major flow out. Trends don't reverse on their own. Something has to happen, like when Silk Road closed or when Gox finally died. At the minimum, support has to be tested with volume.


by this logic alone you shouldn't have even thought of going long, the Chinese news hasn't really changed since Dec 5th, which carried a rumor ban of Jan 31st etc etc

none the less the sheep sit on a fence where they go its banned its not banned, while I sit here and wonder how many Chinese wealthy bought on huge dips



1412. Post 6126476 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: roslinpl on April 08, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
458 or more
458 or more ! Smiley

Come on bitcoin! Smiley don't be shy! Fly like a bird Wink (like a bird that does fly high, like Tibetan geese - those can fly up to Everest height during their flight)

this should help calm the nerves, I don't know why a business would open bank wire transfers if the countries regulatory system is going to ban hammer them in 6 days.

https://twitter.com/btercom/status/453413102113931264

I mean these guys seems more about pumps with these type of announcements but hey, its a guarantee lol https://twitter.com/bitcoinowl/status/453530103763730432



1413. Post 6126822 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Just drew it and it hit the tops all the way to mar 5 nothing broke out.

edit re read,

2nd top nov 29-30th top connected to Jan 6 has it cut through the march 4th point and then perform resistance on my chart as well.

I was connecting Nov top with Jan's top

edit 2 : remember not everyone has log charts enabled.. me thinks log was used to get the line that appears to touch all the tops fron nov to march




1414. Post 6127083 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 08, 2014, 03:29:40 PM
Just drew it and it hit the tops all the way to mar 5 nothing broke out.

edit re read,

2nd top nov 29-30th top connected to Jan 6 has it cut through the march 4th point and then perform resistance on my chart as well.

I was connecting Nov top with Jan's top

Okay that makes much more sense thought I was going crazy for a second. This is the overall chart I'm mainly looking to at the moment which is showing a clear breaking of the December trend based on the Jan 6th top and clear resistance based on the March 4th top together forming a bearish channel that we have been stuck in for the best part of a month.




my further fiddling clarified in my edited statement, in log you can get a line that will touch from all the tops no gaps.

so chart the stuff in log and find the same results.

also funny to then swap it back to linear nd see the curved effect it takes on



1415. Post 6127098 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: Dalmar on April 08, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
remember not everyone has log charts enabled.. me thinks log was used to get the line that appears to touch all the tops fron nov to march

Yeah, forget to mention that. I used log, isn't that supposed to be a standard in bitcoin charting?

I'm always in log, but the default is linear on the site. That is why I mentioned it for all the newbies just lurking on all of us.



1416. Post 6127197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

http://newsbtc.com/2014/04/08/congressman-stockman-seeks-introduce-bill-congress-declaring-bitcoin-currency-property/ oh man politicians that might get it Cheesy






and log isn't distorting the the lines its better representing the amount of growth or decline experienced in short times.



1417. Post 6128061 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: keithers on April 08, 2014, 04:44:15 PM
20% of the people think that we will be below $440 levels within the next to hours?   I doubt that...

10 bucks that's nothing, most of the real bears are expecting 400 and below. Were not drifting down there imo. The SSL glitch shows we're only fearing China lol



1418. Post 6128089 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 08, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
you can't use bitcoin for electrical contacts.
+100

wonder what happens as graphene steps it up http://www.technologyreview.com/news/525606/graphene-helps-copper-wires-keep-their-cool/
                                                                           http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374128/breakthrough-could-push-graphene-into-computing-use



1419. Post 6128166 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):


The  Bitcoin Foundation says this could lead to unrealistic reporting. Rep. Steve Stockman said that he is introducing this bill “to build awareness and create a consensus in the Bitcoin community around government regulation of virtual currencies… I don’t think anyone really has a flavor of what they want and I want to start the Bitcoin conversations.”



http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2014/04/08/breaking-rep-stockman-to-introduce-first-bitcoin-bill/ APOLOGIES IF PAYWALLED HAVE MY FREE VIEWS STILL FOR DA WEEK >> sorry for caps



1420. Post 6128436 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: aminorex on April 08, 2014, 05:14:01 PM
We're not going anywhere, period, unless someone is willing to buy above 453 or sell below it.  In the past 90 minutes I see 15 minutes during which trades occurred.

The relevance of exchanges to the bitcoin economy may be waning.


every time we have a month long of sideways, I debate how much money to send, either I'm buying on a dip or before a rally lol



1421. Post 6129659 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=cavirtex.com

well done cavirtex .. reported an A



1422. Post 6132148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

China's gonna wake up in an hr Cheesy



1423. Post 6132443 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

at least china is waking up to the 1 day going green for macd. buy buy buy china convince the bears you're relevant again.



1424. Post 6133185 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

don't mind billy his stuck in disbear mode, c'est la vie



1425. Post 6133823 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

go china.. prove my naysayers wrong.



1426. Post 6139652 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

some huobi dumping eh, hmmm  seems like someone is taking an early position on something



1427. Post 6139888 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 09, 2014, 12:23:51 PM
Looks like insider dump to me

News in 5 hours i guess Cheesy

similar candles structure to the 7th of april



1428. Post 6139977 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

this is the weakest attempt at getting pigs to panic lol.



1429. Post 6140455 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 09, 2014, 01:00:20 PM
Yeah, unfortunately the bitcoin scammers are now looking to Latin America as the only remaining sucker tank.   Tongue

Always good to have some one over look the current injustices that exists in our global financial system, to point out the flaws of human nature when dealing with bitcoin



1430. Post 6141191 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

LOOL the Canadian revenue agency had to shut down due to the risk of user data being comprised by heart bleed gg bitcoin dev > Canadian tax web devs lol

I did my buddies taxes just in timeeeeeee ahahaa



1431. Post 6141725 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22lvuk/some_internet_users_get_the_message_through/

nope just china being china



1432. Post 6141994 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.34h):

to me these lows just give those who wanted in time to get it together.



1433. Post 6152445 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

wow 400 held, on actual news and confirmations of banning lol, I don't get how this didn't break 400 lol Suppose it comes in waves, but chines is awake. I fell asleep really early trying to take a nap lol... woke up to turmoil as per usual.



1434. Post 6152638 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: TeeBone on April 10, 2014, 07:53:42 AM


Aww, poor bulls on the rag. Cant handle that they were WRONG hehe !!
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How come I'm not bleeding? I think you're a little bit confused, coins are still in my possession all is well. I didn't buy in cause China was buying coins. I'll buy em from China when they get to our markets.

Day traders are entitled to making profit on swings, its tempting for me myself. But hodling for me is less stressful, I can't sell because none of this has anything to do with the core of bitcoin this is just human's running around with their heads cut off...the usual.



1435. Post 6152643 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 10, 2014, 08:00:57 AM
I never understood the whole ignore thing in general. For most, all it does is make you have to click an extra button when you read their post. And let's face it, if you hate them enough to ignore them, you're going to hate them enough to want to see if you can find some way to start shit with them.

Not really, ignore list is a blessing to avoid boring attention whores who spam smiley faces. No need to read their posts just like you dont read your email spam folder about penis enlargements and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerians princes offering you millions

ftfy



1436. Post 6152690 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: TeeBone on April 10, 2014, 08:03:35 AM
I never understood the whole ignore thing in general. For most, all it does is make you have to click an extra button when you read their post. And let's face it, if you hate them enough to ignore them, you're going to hate them enough to want to see if you can find some way to start shit with them.

It seems to ramp up when prices are falling. Reminds of a really angry poker player on full tilt  Grin

Perhaps you don't understand what a troll is fundamentally, much different than an adversary. Trolls are just trying to make you waste your time fighting a circular argument which breaks down in to a name calling bash, responding to them directly and or quoting them seems to inflate their egos and attempts to troll across the forum.



1437. Post 6152739 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: chromosoma on April 10, 2014, 08:09:07 AM
I never understood the whole ignore thing in general. For most, all it does is make you have to click an extra button when you read their post. And let's face it, if you hate them enough to ignore them, you're going to hate them enough to want to see if you can find some way to start shit with them.

It seems to ramp up when prices are falling. Reminds of a really angry poker player on full tilt  Grin

Perhaps you don't understand what a troll is fundamentally, much different than an adversary. Trolls are just trying to make you waste your time fighting a circular argument which breaks down in to a name calling bash, responding to them directly and or quoting them seems to inflate their egos and attempts to troll across the forum.
I dont know, i am considering myself as a troll, but still i try not to abuse anyone here. Making fun and trolling is ok, insulting is not:)

uh, poking fun is different...as it occurs in reality. Trolls form a reality in which they are the only ones possible of uttering the truth



1438. Post 6153313 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 10, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
People whats going on?

We are close to 400 and there is no volume at all! Do something!

To be honest I think most of the news was already priced in and people have been taking their positions over the last few days.

However this is just the announcement and the deadline is not for a few more days so no doubt theres people waiting to buy until after that...

it gets extended in the Reddit I read regarding huobi, to the 18th lol. However real question is some are saying this is a call, oral communication. It is possible a very successful social engineering hack to FUD us to death lol.

I can't imagine the pboc not putting this shit in writing lol .. or they really are just brake pumping till they can think of better controls, which will never occur



1439. Post 6153575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 10, 2014, 09:14:46 AM
People whats going on?

We are close to 400 and there is no volume at all! Do something!

To be honest I think most of the news was already priced in and people have been taking their positions over the last few days.

However this is just the announcement and the deadline is not for a few more days so no doubt theres people waiting to buy until after that...

it gets extended in the Reddit I read regarding huobi, to the 18th lol. However real question is some are saying this is a call, oral communication. It is possible a very successful social engineering hack to FUD us to death lol.

I can't imagine the pboc not putting this shit in writing lol .. or they really are just brake pumping till they can think of better controls, which will never occur

Who knows its a mystery at this point, I beleive the oral communication part was between Huobi and their bank though not their bank and pboc?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22o5si/huobis_bank_account_shutting_down/

Here's xiefeilaga's personal translation:
Announcement on the Temporary Cessation of Deposits via ICBC Cards on Huobi
Dear Huobi users:
Latest news from Huobi:
At roughly 10:00am today, we received notice from the Zhongguancun Branch of ICBC (Industrial and Commercial Bank) that they had been notified by operations management to cease providing service to Huobi, and would be closing Huobi's ICBC account by April 18.
At roughly 10:30, several of the Huobi partners rushed to the Zhongguancun Branch of Huobi to communicate with the Customer Manager.
The situation is as follows:
They did truly receive notice from higher up at the bank, requesting a halt to our ICBC Zhongguancun Account, effective April 18
The notice was an oral notice. The branch has not received anything in writing
When asked why other banks had not sent out the same notice, the response was that different banks may be interpreting policies in different ways, and may have different levels of sensitivity
When asked if there was any room for maneuvering, the answer was that there was none. The order had come from above, and there was nothing to discuss
When asked how to handle user funds in the future, the answer was that we could shift our funds to a different commercial bank, but not ICBC.
We asked the Customer Manager to provide his views on the Bitcoin policy and related matters, but since they did not represent ICBC's views, and had little direct bearing on Huobi's operations, they will not be explained point-by-point in this notice.
Today at 12:00, we rushed back to the office to release this notice. Before release of this notice, we did not notify any users or organizations in advance. Please keep an eye on this.
Huobi will officially suspend deposits through its ICBC Zhongguancun Branch account next Monday (April 14)(this will not affect users withdrawing cash from ICBC. We will use accounts at other banks to transfer the funds to your account). At present, this does not affect other banks. Huobi will release any new information immediately.

If this is true this weekend could be a slaughter.



1440. Post 6153643 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: tarmi on April 10, 2014, 09:33:30 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22o5si/huobis_bank_account_shutting_down/

Here's xiefeilaga's personal translation:
Announcement on the Temporary Cessation of Deposits via ICBC Cards on Huobi
Dear Huobi users:
Latest news from Huobi:
At roughly 10:00am today, we received notice from the Zhongguancun Branch of ICBC (Industrial and Commercial Bank) that they had been notified by operations management to cease providing service to Huobi, and would be closing Huobi's ICBC account by April 18.
At roughly 10:30, several of the Huobi partners rushed to the Zhongguancun Branch of Huobi to communicate with the Customer Manager.
The situation is as follows:
They did truly receive notice from higher up at the bank, requesting a halt to our ICBC Zhongguancun Account, effective April 18
The notice was an oral notice. The branch has not received anything in writing
When asked why other banks had not sent out the same notice, the response was that different banks may be interpreting policies in different ways, and may have different levels of sensitivity
When asked if there was any room for maneuvering, the answer was that there was none. The order had come from above, and there was nothing to discuss
When asked how to handle user funds in the future, the answer was that we could shift our funds to a different commercial bank, but not ICBC.
We asked the Customer Manager to provide his views on the Bitcoin policy and related matters, but since they did not represent ICBC's views, and had little direct bearing on Huobi's operations, they will not be explained point-by-point in this notice.
Today at 12:00, we rushed back to the office to release this notice. Before release of this notice, we did not notify any users or organizations in advance. Please keep an eye on this.
Huobi will officially suspend deposits through its ICBC Zhongguancun Branch account next Monday (April 14)(this will not affect users withdrawing cash from ICBC. We will use accounts at other banks to transfer the funds to your account). At present, this does not affect other banks. Huobi will release any new information immediately.


love it! just like the gox situation: postponing inevitable crash with some bs stories to buy some time.

gox crashed harder with their lies, when they actually came out and said we've lost it all the market started to rebound lol



1441. Post 6153693 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: CoinThinker on April 10, 2014, 09:38:06 AM
One of the biggest problems I think is that there are no effective ways to deposit money for people who want to buy BTC. It's rubbish that all you can do is Bank transfers... Sad

I don't understand why Bitstamp doesn't include Neteller for example as a deposit option?? This way that exchange doesn't reflect reality. On one hand you have something which is there in minutes (BTC), but on the other hand you need to wait weeks (not to talk about that many will not make any bank transactions). I am sure if depositing money would be as easy as depositing BTC, the price would rocket up immediately.

because bitcoin is feared by most payment systems as it can replace them all. aide in the death of your profit lol.. that makes zero sense.

the amount of bitcoin atms available in major cities in North America will help to resolve this issue, hopefully the fee's on said atm add up to similar fee structures of fees conveyed by exchanges ( trading and or deposit and withdrawals )

its growing globally to in regards to btc-atms



1442. Post 6153791 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

It was discussed somewhere, reddit or here that the major Chinese exchanges are trying to set up accounts in foreign countries and move bases of operations.

China is going to shoot themselves in the foot, losing out on all those fees for processing wires etc etc etc.



1443. Post 6153866 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 10, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
It was discussed somewhere, reddit or here that the major Chinese exchanges are trying to set up accounts in foreign countries and move bases of operations.

China is going to shoot themselves in the foot, losing out on all those fees for processing wires etc etc etc.

How does a Chinese person deposit to a foreign country ? Arent there strict controls surrounding that?

I was purely speaking to them losing a business that operated in their jurisdiction. If they move outside, they won't make any of the accessory fees that are included when buying btc



1444. Post 6153961 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: sickpig on April 10, 2014, 10:01:50 AM

The difference now is that China has actually got to a sustainable solution. Now they have found a solution which provides the capital control they desperately needed without completely banning a revolutional technology. Similar to the compromise that they came to with the internet as whole.

Sorry for bothering but what's the solution they found? (somehow I managed to miss it) 

choke the depositors off by closing access to banks



1445. Post 6154350 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

https://www.google.ca/search?q=populatin+of+china&rlz=1C1GGGE_enCA413CA413&oq=populatin+of+china&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1888j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=2&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

1.351 billion people as of 2012

50,000 a person, with lets say a max of 0.01% of the them buying bitcoins

50,000 * (1.351B * .0001 ) =  6,755,000,000  oh so they could just want to keep the market cap of btc = to the amount they want to let people in China buy in lol



1446. Post 6154634 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

I imagine before china was on the radar and I had yet to join the speculation forum that the U.S was the one who was going to ban btc every other month a year ago or less even.



1447. Post 6155783 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

can we stop quoting obvious position taker trolls?

In others news people do whatever they want to do.



1448. Post 6155900 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Naw, its pretty obvious who they are. If you want to act ignorant of that, it is cool with me.





1449. Post 6155913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: seanneko on April 10, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
Cup and handle. Here comes the bounce. Sell @ $420-430.  

I see no cup and handle. It went $440 -> $410 then has sat around there for a few hours now.

looking at the 12hr I can see an upside down cup lol on stamp

regarding ideas of reversal and the like from my permabull family. ain't going to happen till the world outside of China stops caring about how they will be supplying the market with coins or as repeated by many China puts something concrete out there. This last revision is to have been a oral discussion, not clear if by phone or an in person representative of the PBoC. I personally give two fucks if China wises up, the coins aren't controlled by them, their controlled by all of us. Well except those that panic sell them all, but then those people are highly unlikely to be interested in bringing stability to the technology as much as they're trying to increase net worth.



1450. Post 6156165 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: octaft on April 10, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Naw, its pretty obvious who they are. If you want to act ignorant of that, it is cool with me.




Yeah, it's very obvious. It's like a solid 90% of posters on here.

Come on, you know there are plenty of bull "trolls" on here, too. You know, the guys who call sellers idiots and scream HODL all day long?

Now, if you mean ignore all the bear trolls, that's fine, but you have to specify that. Yeah, it's a smaller portion (simply due to the fact that this is a heavily pro bitcoin forum), and yes, it's pretty obvious who those people are.

funny how I don't quote the perma bulls ccmf pics etc

Wouldn't even go close to 90% of poster as these guys are the only ones I think really make their position uber obvious.

Bear; I've just completely given up on expecting anything mildly intelligent or well formed as an argument from Fonzie, Joinov, this Pumpkin character.
Neutral zone; which is Stolfi but probably a bear and or just enjoys trolling bitcoin.
bull bears; Billy
permabulls; I just don't re quote ccmf and trains page fillers ( however I will post ccmf myself to poke fun, when bears see the bulls bringing it out to early) however I've seen very little in the form of ccmf memes, and trains besides that of bears posting train wrecks compared to during the nov - dec rally.

give me an example of a permabull who shouts that we're going to a 1000 tomorrow everyday, I seem to be missing thier posts but don't deny that it maybe happening. Cause I have to read from bears were going to double digits on the daily..

edit: yeah I mainly ignore the troll bears, but I've give up on the others from time to time.




1451. Post 6156400 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: octaft on April 10, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
give me an example of a permabull who shouts that we're going to a 1000 tomorrow everyday, I seem to be missing thier posts but don't deny that it maybe happening. Cause I have to read from bears were going to double digits on the daily..



There were plenty of them during the run up. I see it as the uptrend was the bulls turn, and now it's the bears turn, so I don't complain about either, really.

yeah but the bear trolls never stop...Mascga comes as close to a form of permabull ccmf troll lol, EDIT: Guinpen is now on the bull troll ignore lol

on top of that during the run up bulls were pretty fucking accurate with their claims. Permabulls faced a hard time with initial China policy changes and goxxing too bad they bashed Rpiella in to his own thread, but I do not doubt we entered the bear market way back in dec. and we probably don't exit till the summer starts...so late may early June on the optimistic side.

however outside factors like the economic issues the world faces can spurr a bitcoin rally, China has kept everyone at arms distance trying to gather ( from the perspective of someone who is about to buy-in for the first time) if this is the bottom of the bear market. We've seen spurts IMO of people deciding to hop back in but no urgency cause the bears have tons of coins they picked up on panic sells, the volume bars show this on most of the flash dips. However coupled with the fact bulls are turning their day trading stashes in fiat to buy back in lower we're going to find the real bottom relatively soon I hope.




1452. Post 6156475 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: lemonte on April 10, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
The market needs a resting period after the china fiasco is finally settled, then good news will actually find fertile ground again

I agree, we've had such a shit 2014 so far.

December - China ban is announced
January - China ban deadline
February - Literally a week after the China ban, Mark and his pals from Gox stop withdrawals with this lasting the whole month until they go bankrupt at the end
March - China 2: The empire strikes back (Part 1) is announced
April - China 2 deadline

It's easy to see why we are dropping and why good news isn't making any difference with this hanging over us.
Next week we should see the China ban play out and someone from Gox visit the USA to appear in court, once that's over and done with this dampening effect will wear off and good news should begin to make a difference again.


right on time for spring Cheesy  maybe some sun for those in northern climates like myself will encourage positivity lol.



1453. Post 6156687 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: octaft on April 10, 2014, 01:40:30 PM

During a bubble, anyone screaming "up up up" will be pretty accurate. I recall it being pretty much nonstop with the exception of a couple of guys like ElectricMucus. Pages upon pages, waves upon waves of trains, choo choo, HODL, etc.

Would you even entertain the possibility that this could be either selective memory on your part, or possibly the bear posts are more fresh in your mind?

Well it comes back to the debate.. was TA on point or was it China spreading FUD. I am not sure if was Tera OR Rpiella who was trying to explain it was destined to drop pre China announcements I'm willing to admit that China could purely have been a catalyst to a bear market and in combination with gox not a cause for it.

I spread and preach the hodl mentality only for those who aren't trying to day trade and wish to see stability enter bitcoin. It still hugely speculative and probably for years to come and this will makes us inherently vulnerable to pump and dump.

Jorge I believe would describe me as a bag holder, I see myself as someone who is just confident in BTCs long term success.



1454. Post 6156934 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 10, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Well, one more time, it really looks like its over. I HODL but lets see how this one works out. I almost halved all my savings in just a few weeks, buying @700  Shocked

You can also buy some more, no? and then your average BTC buy price will drop.

NOT always practical for everyone, but a possibility for you?

avoided this issue by waiting till the buy price was lower than my avg. buy in cost. I would be selling before the coins if I were a seller while above that point...as it went below that It became a buy signal TO ONLY ME <



1455. Post 6157140 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: Bronstad on April 10, 2014, 02:23:15 PM


but it did lol.



1456. Post 6157269 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: p4n on April 10, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
Sell 712.958btc 16:29:35 402.5$
Buy 287.041btc 16:29:28 408.66$
Buy 107.632btc 16:29:24 410.2$

Srsly, WTF.

1k at 402 on the buy.. someone wants this to the be a strong bottom



1457. Post 6157301 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: oda.krell on April 10, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
Another ~40k$ saying we're going below 400.

We need an equivalent to the "new ATH" meme pictures... wait I have an idea....

so the 400k that bought btc @ $402 means what?



1458. Post 6157328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on April 10, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
This is ridiculous. This isn't panic selling. This is trying to take Bitcoin down. Will it ever stop? Who are these people? Hasn't it been enough already?

why would you want a hard dead cat bounce, let it grind. If it penetrates 400 buy some more if it eases your mind Cheesy



1459. Post 6157370 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: porcupine87 on April 10, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
Another ~40k$ saying we're going below 400.

We need an equivalent to the "new ATH" meme pictures... wait I have an idea....

so the 400k that bought btc @ $402 means what?

It means that a buyer needs a seller and the buyer thinks the price will rise and the seller thinks it will fall (or he needs the cash).

it was rhetorical cause he alluded to 40k pointing us downward.




1460. Post 6157583 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 10, 2014, 02:55:30 PM
LTC taking a beating through all this as well...

yar nearly quoted Joinov and some guy talking about how they' couldn't resist 12 dollar ltc. while he shits all over bitcoin, I'm sure the 9 dollar ltc is 1/4 more attractive than 12.

edit: nearly became an actuality cause this kid thinks he isn't a huge troll
Quote from: jonoiv on April 02, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
i couldnt resist to buy more of these 12$ ltcs Cheesy



same here Smiley

they do look attractive at $12

In other news

I mentioned earlier the idea that Huobi and other exchanges may leave or operate outside of China. They introduced an english ( U.S.A flag denoted ) version of their site.

Google translate from a reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22os8f/huobicom_begins_an_english_version/

Recently, the world's largest digital currency currency trading platform fHuobi coming on-line network in English . It is reported that on-line in English is not only the English language in order to better serve the user , but also is the first Huobi net global strategy.
In the world of Internet banking ecosystem , the digital currency trading is one of the important part , and Huobi is a virtuous circle facilitator currency net monetary digital ecosystem . Platform has been open and transparent standard self-discipline, professional and safe service to investors. Vane type of business as the industry every move fire coins network represents the development direction of the industry. Internationalization is the trend, who grabbed the top spot in overseas markets , we must speak with strength. Huobi network is the platform for the strongest , the biggest team size , the highest degree of transparency in the trading platform . Moreover, according to a Huobi official currency network news , the platform has not only been the world's top VC investments , and hire a professional accounting firm to conduct a financial audit of fire currency network , while financial audit report will be made ​​public . This series of moves , the industry was considered part of the global network of Huobi layout .
About this time in English on-line, network co-founder Du Huobi have said : as a responsible trading platform , Huobi is committed to providing professional services to more secure for users worldwide , the digital currency in this industry, international technology is inevitable, the English version of the trading platform is not only to provide a better option for English language users, but also conform to a measure of the market. Want in a competitive environment for a long time survival and development , follow the trend , honesty and self-discipline , and constantly open up the rules of survival is the platform.
Platform in the shuffle , the industry needs self-discipline. In all current trading platform , the fire coins network has an absolute advantage in market share , but also has a strong team to support , not only by the users worldwide recognition, there is no doubt become the industry leader. On this path of globalization , the fire is undoubtedly the domestic currency network platform to go the farthest and most stable one , the industry structure of digital money is also increasingly clear .




1461. Post 6157674 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 10, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
LTC taking a beating through all this as well...

yar nearly quoted Joinov and some guy talking about how they' couldn't resist 12 dollar ltc. while he shits all over bitcoin, I'm sure the 9 dollar ltc is 1/4 more attractive than 12.

In other news

I mentioned earlier the idea that Huobi and other exchanges may leave or operate outside of China. They introduced an english ( U.S.A flag denoted ) version of their site.

Google translate from a reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22os8f/huobicom_begins_an_english_version/

snip...


Surely if they are able to operate outside of China that will be the best outcome for everyone, while operating in China and being exclusively for Chinese persons a ban in China means all buyers dry up and no new deposits means anyone with fiat on there will be looking to buy up as many coins as possible for an insta arb. If they can transition to outside of China that gives people outside of China aa way to slowly soak up those coins and means fresh fiat is able to hit the exchanges to keep the price from crashing without any buyers.

I see it as a positive, if China doesn't want to foster business it is going to go somewhere else to grow.



1462. Post 6157810 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

People... bull or bear you really didn't think that North America would wake up and not panic.. my god.. how silly are we going to be.




1463. Post 6158053 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: jonoiv on April 10, 2014, 03:24:39 PM


he's sugesting I made a mistake buying at $11.93

I am pointing out, I did make a mistake but sold.  Facts are he's a moron and my predictions are coming true again Smiley

DID HE JUST WRITE THIS ? how far is your head up your ass?



Quote from: Davyd05 on April 02, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
FXBTC announcement. Guess this one caused the last dump. God helps us when BTCCHina and Huobi do theirs:

Quote
Today, FXBTC site management as some of its peers, as a number of commercial banks received a phone call asking the bank to cancel the account as soon as possible, in order to strengthen the implementation of the central bank issued the notice bitcoin risk prevention work, and some banks have even asked tomorrow cancel the account, FXBTC clarify that the incident was not a rumor, the central bank issued a notice requiring any real commercial banks and third-party payment institutions may not provide clearing services for Bitcoin business, demanding the closure of funds between accounts all bitcoin related sites, FXBTC While it has been hard for the majority of users, offers a variety of prepaid withdrawals channels, but the requirements for the banks immediately cancel the account, otherwise it will freeze the requirements of the account, can not do anything, the company discussed and decided, at 0:00 on April 3, 2014 before no longer deal with the bank recharge after Sunday, suspend business banking Katy is currently TenPay recharge withdrawals yet to receive any notice, you can continue to use, the inconvenience caused to you we apologize.

If 420 is breached I think we could see an YTL (on stamp). If I sodl it be to buy and hodl again at the next ban bottom...so I'd rather just wire some money to the exchange instead of trying day trade Cheesy

on the 2nd of April I thought this was going to happen.. why are you telling me I am an idiot and your predictions are only coming true...get a life troll.



1464. Post 6158174 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: bitgeek on April 10, 2014, 03:36:11 PM
People are soo stupid, they buy coins, hold them, believe in the technology to become accepted, then see other people selling and just sell without thinking. WTF?

no those who believe aren't selling they're buying.

those purely day trading... buy and sell when they think they can make a profit



1465. Post 6158258 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: bitgeek on April 10, 2014, 03:39:53 PM
People are soo stupid, they buy coins, hold them, believe in the technology to become accepted, then see other people selling and just sell without thinking. WTF?

no those who believe aren't selling they're buying.

those purely day trading... buy and sell when they think they can make a profit
Which means right now more people decided to make the profit Cheesy

well depends ... anyone can profit.. if they bought pre nov. I mean I still even have coins that I picked up at 142.50 but my avg buy in is 540cad.

there are many sheep just taking haircuts.. who knows maybe they need some capital losses on their taxes.



1466. Post 6158289 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: jonoiv on April 10, 2014, 03:40:19 PM


Keep Hodling Wink

of course I will why would I change my strategy to line the pockets of people who can't even trust to sleep while owning crypto.

enjoy your fiat profits I got no issues with you making bank.



1467. Post 6158460 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 10, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Interesting, China is actually leading in the price, thats rare


yeah cause shit hit the fan over an alleged phone or oral conversation with one of huobi banks.



1468. Post 6159056 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

its a sad day when fonzie, proudhon and walsoraj make more sense the Jorge.



1469. Post 6159159 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 10, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
its a sad day when fonzie, proudhon and walsoraj make more sense the Jorge.
You should read that short story.  Wink

than*



1470. Post 6159403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: proudhon on April 10, 2014, 04:53:18 PM
the retard who dumped to 380 now will lose in any way. all know btc will go higher in future and even will reach a new ATH 100%.

he still can take that reward if he buys below 380. Yet to see if he will.

As uncomfortable as it is to feel the psychological pressure to join the panic, it's just as exciting to think that this could be the last good opportunity to jump in before all the institutional infrastructure is in place.

what do I do...now that I feel like our minds are merged? is this like Ltc and Doge merged mining? or sidechains?



1471. Post 6159430 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: porcupine87 on April 10, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
the retard who dumped to 380 now will lose in any way. all know btc will go higher in future and even will reach a new ATH 100%.

I read the same about the loser you sold at 900$  Roll Eyes Why do people always have to be so disrespectful. The same was a few days ago "I wonder how stupid people feel who sold at 450$. There are 18 000 coins to 400". It just depends. If somebody sold at 900$ and bought back at 1000$, this is bad for him. If he bought back at 400, this might be good...

your logic is correct, no need to be so hostile... generally I would assume he or she has bought in at 38x and is being firm in the belief that it is the bottom



1472. Post 6159509 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: seleme on April 10, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
the retard who dumped to 380 now will lose in any way. all know btc will go higher in future and even will reach a new ATH 100%.

he still can take that reward if he buys below 380. Yet to see if he will.

As uncomfortable as it is to feel the psychological pressure to join the panic, it's just as exciting to think that this could be the last good opportunity to jump in before all the institutional infrastructure is in place.

I'm fairly sure it is, still not sure at which point the reversal will happen. I made huge paper money gains in last few months, hundreds of bagger one, but lost some of it recently. About third of my top gain is in fiat right now, I just need to have a hedge against it going even lower, I'll buy at signs of reversal even if it would be higher than this price.

I was checking out Fib's on the 1day starting at the bottom of the sr1.0 closing down and ending at the top of Dec rally, the 23.6% retrace @ 339.41 wouldn't surprise me to be the actual bottom, but that is only if the China ban becomes even clearer and cause some expedited heading for the doors, and sheep selling.



1473. Post 6159566 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

poll shows how you feel Adam, I am feeling super opportunistic right now, should really be wiring the last of the money I allotted for the year to the exchange. Stagger the buys towards 339 and pray we reverse before it's hit.



1474. Post 6159680 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: porcupine87 on April 10, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
I was checking out Fib's on the 1day starting at the bottom of the sr1.0 closing down and ending at the top of Dec rally, the 23.6% retrace @ 339.41 wouldn't surprise me to be the actual bottom, but that is only if the China ban becomes even clearer and cause some expedited heading for the doors, and sheep selling.

How does this fibonacci work? I don't see there any pattern. Not even at best will. So I conclude that too less traders on Bitcoin work with Fib's?

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fibonacciretracement.asp

I don't live or die by anything, but I like checking out the Fib's.



1475. Post 6160130 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: BitChick on April 10, 2014, 05:45:32 PM

What are you smoking?

NO! Please, don't ask Risto that!!
He'll give us a lecture on today's cigar. Wink

Talking about cigars might not be a bad thing on days like today.  

As a female I can talk about many pointless things! Maybe we should all just start talking about our hobbies, kids, shopping etc.  Get our minds of of Bitcoin for a while until we are in a better place.  Wink


some guy claimed on reddit he was going to drink a shot of tequila to every 100 volume price alert lol.. I think he's a prime candidate for a step back from btc.



1476. Post 6160155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/trading/06/retracements.asp

lol this seems like a good read,



1477. Post 6160371 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: aminorex on April 10, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
I could recall some better times from Bitcoin  Cry

I doubt it.  When was the last time coins were this cheap?  2011?


why even joke about something so easy to find out? nov 2013, was the last time we we're trading at this price lol based on YTL of 382.21.



1478. Post 6160618 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

http://cryptocrimson.com/2014/04/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-report-banks-will-close-accounts/

good read, not per say as gloomy as the link appears.



1479. Post 6161594 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

I wonder if people are depressed because they invested more than they could afford to lose.




1480. Post 6161759 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: TooDumbForBitcoin on April 10, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
After a year on the sidelines, missing the $100 and $200 boats because my user name, I broke my cherry today at $393.

Anybody see the movie, "The Cooler"?  Whatever happens next is my fault.



welcome to, ONE OF US, ONE OF US... lol

this guy joined up as well, and he used to call us Tulipmania.. maybe he's pumping now lol

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101573131



1481. Post 6162138 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: MinermanNC on April 10, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Man this looks as bad as the stock market today crashing! Was dreaming of 450 again when I left for work this morning  Embarrassed Glad I don't have stock in facebook,,,,, now that's a scam lol

My prevailing strategy right now is to short the US market and roll gains into BTC.

Now that's a plan! Smiley

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkornblau/2014/04/10/five-dow-stocks-with-rising-short-activity/



1482. Post 6162428 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

its pretty funny to see asia above stamp lool



1483. Post 6164175 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22q523/investor_group_seeks_court_ok_to_buy_revive/

found out why we're dripping gox will arise. hehehe

uh yea the bears seem to think anyone with patience is a bag holder.



1484. Post 6164203 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: dnaleor on April 10, 2014, 11:21:34 PM


SELL SELL SELL !!!


We will be goxed again and again. Gox haunts the BTC community...

Fucking gox revivers. STAY DEAD PLZ!!!!

why this would return owners their btc. nd get rid of karpeles



1485. Post 6164750 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: MinermanNC on April 11, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
I am going down with this ship

Goodbye $25 grand Undecided Cry
Quit being so negative  Cheesy

nah let them be , bears getting in their heads at this point boggles my mind. Either way gotta slaughter some pigs today for bacon tomorrow



1486. Post 6164884 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

ATH of 259.43 and low following the reversal is 45 which gave us 17% of the value of the ATH

ATH of 1163.0 and my estimated low following the reversal of 339.41 gives us 29% of the ATH

ATH 1163.0 and my estimated Holy shit the world gives 17% identical to the last bubble pop we hit 197.71

Just something to think of when people keep spewing dbl digits by so so date



1487. Post 6164932 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 12:30:58 AM
ok I achieved my desired position, this is my biggest Litecoin stash of coins I ever had, now it is holding time, now that Greek physic teacher can yell at me and tell me hodl...  Cheesy

why would you hedge in to an altcoin with sidechain discussion mounting during a crash?



1488. Post 6164964 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on April 10, 2014, 11:50:31 PM
ah this really sucks

Hey Adam, you know what really sucks?

CaVirtex says because of some stupid law that I need to re-verify my bank account, and the way they verify is to send money to my account and then I have to tell them how much they sent...

Of course, I'm not going to know how much they sent until Huh who knows when? -- and then it will still take 2-3 business days for my deposit to clear, meaning I won't have funds in my account until, I dunno, next tuesday? wednesday?

I might just end up going to bitcoinbrains and eating that 6.5%...

Or maybe I just take the money I was going to spend on bitcoin and buy a flight and a hotel and go to the expo in Toronto this weekend Smiley

I was lucky i did this last week, also have an EFT on its way hope it comes through tomorrow. have you tried VoS

How long before the deposits showed up in your account btw? I was lagging on doing this myself. If I don't hurry up I won't be able to buy in at any point below my abp.



1489. Post 6165015 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: Adrian-x on April 11, 2014, 12:36:49 AM
ah this really sucks

Hey Adam, you know what really sucks?

CaVirtex says because of some stupid law that I need to re-verify my bank account, and the way they verify is to send money to my account and then I have to tell them how much they sent...

Of course, I'm not going to know how much they sent until Huh who knows when? -- and then it will still take 2-3 business days for my deposit to clear, meaning I won't have funds in my account until, I dunno, next tuesday? wednesday?

I might just end up going to bitcoinbrains and eating that 6.5%...

Or maybe I just take the money I was going to spend on bitcoin and buy a flight and a hotel and go to the expo in Toronto this weekend Smiley

I was lucky i did this last week, also have an EFT on its way hope it comes through tomorrow. have you tried VoS

I have not tried them yet, but I expect I would have to verify with them as well, I'm not sure how long these prices will last. Maybe it will keep dropping and not being able to fund my account will actually turn in my favour.

One thing is for certain, once you experience bitcoin, the legacy banking system is downright laughable. It's seriously like comparing physical mail to email.

(*45 new replies?!?!?!*) holy crap, I need to type faster, lol.
My VoS verification took about 2 days. Deposits are quick but liquidity low.

I meant bank verification process deposits at cavirtex, I am verified at vos already as well though lol  and thanks for the info Cheesy



1490. Post 6165060 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

these lulls between dumps have been met with what I expect as people moving orders up in impatience of finding dat bottom doe



1491. Post 6165468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 11, 2014, 12:27:09 AM
ATH of 259.43 and low following the reversal is 45 which gave us 17% of the value of the ATH

ATH of 1163.0 and my estimated low following the reversal of 339.41 gives us 29% of the ATH

ATH 1163.0 and my estimated Holy shit the world gives 17% identical to the last bubble pop we hit 197.71

Just something to think of when people keep spewing dbl digits by so so date

will that support hold or do we test YTL like bosses



1492. Post 6165482 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 01:28:56 AM
if we go below 300, I declare that we are breaking the previous ATH...

5k next dec cool with you?



1493. Post 6165522 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.35h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 01:32:52 AM
if we go below 300, I declare that we are breaking the previous ATH...

5k next dec cool with you?

maybe you misunderstood, the previous ATH was $266 Smiley and I don't gamble

you're still referencing gox eh?... and no I didn't mistunderstand anything, I think you misunderstand bitcoin markets.

either way enjoy all those LTC you think are going to 100.



1494. Post 6165607 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: seleme on April 11, 2014, 01:44:15 AM




That's better. Internet or not, mums should be out of any arguments between people.

my fav part he saved face instead of saying you bought in lower than he did lol



1495. Post 6165652 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: pepo on April 11, 2014, 01:50:14 AM
IM MAKING AN ALLIN ON BTC , i bet anyone that in the next 30 days it will raise above 1.5k.

woah there nelly, but I sure hope you're gleaming something from the deep cosmos out of your ass. Which ends up as greater value to my coins lol



1496. Post 6165727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: pepo on April 11, 2014, 01:57:56 AM
IM MAKING AN ALLIN ON BTC , i bet anyone that in the next 30 days it will raise above 1.5k.

Wouldn't you make more money just buying bitcoins then?

I bought btcs.

I thought that would be obvious to others, the side bet was like.. hmm a cherry on the sundae that doesn't exist yet.



1497. Post 6165747 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 01:59:16 AM
if we go below 300, I declare that we are breaking the previous ATH...

5k next dec cool with you?

maybe you misunderstood, the previous ATH was $266 Smiley and I don't gamble

you're still referencing gox eh?... and no I didn't mistunderstand anything, I think you misunderstand bitcoin markets.

either way enjoy all those LTC you think are going to 100.

no problem, I will make sure to do so Smiley

Eh Slovenac, nemoj me zajebavat  Grin

5k Bitcoin is gamble but 100$ LTC is not?

eh bosanac, znaš kolk je sat? a ništa ne spavaš ?  Cheesy BTW alžirac sem ja Smiley

and I do believe that it will surpass 5K, I just don't do bets, it is a principal that I try to respect and it has nothing with me not believing the price wouldn't go that high Smiley

buying the ltc.. and saying its going to 100.. is making a bet of sorts.. did you guys discuss a side bet in your native tongue or did I miss something...I do admit to being pretty slow.



1498. Post 6166005 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
Im telling this now , bitcoin price in a few month 2-8 will be enourmous , everyone must understand , bitcoin is new . About the 2% of the world population knows that it exists , and from that 2% the 10% knows how it works. You must give time to the people to understand that it is best for us all.

oh, we didn't know that, it just happens that we are traders and we like the volatility, that's all, otherwise we love Bitcoin Smiley

ill give you the LTC is strong on it pump right now lol



1499. Post 6171940 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: trunzo on April 11, 2014, 12:54:48 PM
Hey guys, what is the reason for the ongoing bitcoin price decline?

rumors of Gox coming back

that would be rather a good news? Why then drop the prices?

I think he was trolling you, we dropped due to announcements from Huobi on halting deposits via ICBC bank cards.

as for Gox it's a loose proposal to buy Mt.Gox for 1 bitcoin and the plan is to set asides 50% of trading fees to pay back those who have lost funds.
only reviving old gox could really, cause a dip as people assume the market has more coins. That and anyone who had coins on gox that planned to buy back in doesn't need to buy any of the remaining coins in circ.

Currently we're rebounding on news that China as many have stated ( myself included) has no plan on banning bitcoin out right.
http://www.bitell.com/t/2094



1500. Post 6172123 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on April 11, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Bitstamp stuff are behaving a little bit strange :

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/454601576007864320




mmmm so Why ? they never did that before !!!
It's highly concerning that apparently Bitstamp is showing willingness to manipulate the market given the role they play., because we don't know if there is any real foul play behind the scenes. MtGox once did the same with a similar statement in a press release. I deemed them somewhat more professional than MtGox, but perhaps I was wrong.

At least MtGox have stated that they would disallow their employees from insider trading, but I have not heard anything like that from Bitstamp.

..are you kidding... you're worried that they're being positive following a bunch of manipulation by I guess whales, and other fucking sheep. I'd be more worried about anyone who takes China bitcoin ban threats seriously, when the best information we had was a Phone or Oral conversation allegedly.



1501. Post 6172150 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: wachtwoord on April 11, 2014, 01:10:54 PM
Bitstamp stuff are behaving a little bit strange :

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/454601576007864320




mmmm so Why ? they never did that before !!!
It's highly concerning that apparently Bitstamp is showing willingness to manipulate the market given the role they play., because we don't know if there is any real foul play behind the scenes. MtGox once did the same with a similar statement in a press release. I deemed them somewhat more professional than MtGox, but perhaps I was wrong.

At least MtGox have stated that they would disallow their employees from insider trading, but I have not heard anything like that from Bitstamp.

I agree. This is unprofessional.

what is unprofessional.. the fact that China's news was used by manipulators to spread fear mongering  and failed miserably?




1502. Post 6172198 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on April 11, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
Sorry, forgot where I was posting. Yes, there is absolutely no problem with this; it's not at all indicative of possible disintegrity on behalf of your broker. Never mind. Cheesy

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hewlett-packard-pays-108m-settle-money-laundering-bribery-charges-1444373  this shit goes on everyday in our current structure and you want to knock bitstamp for a playful tweet LOOOOL buddy


no your just clearly biased for no apparent reason. Explain to me how they're manipulating by showing some positive humor after so much bearish FUD I could choke on it.



1503. Post 6172235 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on April 11, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
Sorry, forgot where I was posting. Yes, there is absolutely no problem with this; it's not at all indicative of possible disintegrity on behalf of your broker. Never mind. Cheesy

http://www.bitell.com/t/2094 yeah your to busy harping on Bitstamp while China is DIRECTLY MANIPULATING via social media and official channels.  They dropped us yesterday and brought us back up. If you don't think the higher ups are buying in China your delusional.



1504. Post 6172261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: TERA on April 11, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
Bitstamp stuff are behaving a little bit strange :

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/454601576007864320




mmmm so Why ? they never did that before !!!
It's highly concerning that apparently Bitstamp is showing willingness to manipulate the market given the role they play., because we don't know if there is any real foul play behind the scenes. MtGox once did the same with a similar statement in a press release. I deemed them somewhat more professional than MtGox, but perhaps I was wrong.

At least MtGox have stated that they would disallow their employees from insider trading, but I have not heard anything like that from Bitstamp.

I agree. This is unprofessional.

what is unprofessional.. the fact that China's news was used by manipulators to spread fear mongering  and failed miserably?



This has nothing to do with China news. It has to do with Bitstamp implying investment advice, and how that is unprofessional. In the real world, it would even be illegal. Imagine what would happen if a stock exchange started telling its customers to buy a stock.

HOWS is THIS INVESTMENT ADVICE? I've heard to the moon more often as joke from bears to kid at us now .. man you guys and girls take some shit so serious while just avoiding everything else of a similar nature which is actual fraud and manipulation LOOOOL enjoy being thumb suckers.



1505. Post 6172311 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: mmitech on April 11, 2014, 01:21:48 PM


these are the people who didn't buy back and still wish to see 100$ Bitcoin again.... I wouldn't waste my time and argue too much with them

I was going to insinuate that but whats the point, I am not going to assume things of them. I just love the contempt for stamp while the Country of China and  the circlejerk of bears pushing China Ban's boggles me. Or hey just ignore the unprofessional aspect of our current financial systems to find a fucking tweet inappropriate, following  ATH in despair a little joke was perfectly timed in my opinion.

I don't even trade or have anyone I know who trades on stamp, it just pure bashing for reasons that are so weak it might as well be called FUD.



1506. Post 6172327 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: jonoiv on April 11, 2014, 01:22:08 PM

I agree. This is unprofessional.

what is unprofessional.. the fact that China's news was used by manipulators to spread fear mongering  and failed miserably?



If all the rumors are false then they should release a factual statement.  But writing bitcoin to the moon, is just as bad as the bear fud.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE? meaning make your own choices.. we rallied following China's on the oh we're not banning it statement, and queue joke #tothemoon




1507. Post 6172383 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: seleme on April 11, 2014, 01:28:08 PM


these are the people who didn't buy back and still wish to see 100$ Bitcoin again.... I wouldn't waste my time and argue too much with them

I was going to insinuate that but whats the point, I am not going to assume things of them. I just love the contempt for stamp while the Country of China and  the circlejerk of bears pushing China Ban's boggles me. Or hey just ignore the unprofessional aspect of our current financial systems to find a fucking tweet inappropriate, following  ATH in despair a little joke was perfectly timed in my opinion.

And you guys bought and like it Cheesy

It is unprofessional and it would be same if they wrote - "we're going to crash". That's not how broker behaves and if there's more laws around Bitcoin they would be in trouble with this.

it is nothing like saying "we're going to crash" or "we're not going to crash"

it is a reflection of what occured...with at best a joke to rib all the sour FudBears.



1508. Post 6172414 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: TERA on April 11, 2014, 01:29:02 PM
Bitstamp stuff are behaving a little bit strange :

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/454601576007864320




mmmm so Why ? they never did that before !!!
It's highly concerning that apparently Bitstamp is showing willingness to manipulate the market given the role they play., because we don't know if there is any real foul play behind the scenes. MtGox once did the same with a similar statement in a press release. I deemed them somewhat more professional than MtGox, but perhaps I was wrong.

At least MtGox have stated that they would disallow their employees from insider trading, but I have not heard anything like that from Bitstamp.

I agree. This is unprofessional.

what is unprofessional.. the fact that China's news was used by manipulators to spread fear mongering  and failed miserably?



This has nothing to do with China news. It has to do with Bitstamp implying investment advice, and how that is unprofessional. In the real world, it would even be illegal. Imagine what would happen if a stock exchange started telling its customers to buy a stock.

HOWS is THIS INVESTMENT ADVICE? I've heard to the moon more often as joke from bears to kid at us now .. man you guys and girls take some shit so serious while just avoiding everything else of a similar nature which is actual fraud and manipulation LOOOOL enjoy being thumb suckers.
If they say "to the moon", it implies that they are very confident in an upwards price movement and that their customers should buy. Even if you think it's a joke, other people might not. In the real market, it would illegal to even make such a vague reference and you would be potentially liable if a customer were to trade based on your statements and lose. It's also simply not the way that a business should communicate.

What is the with the caps, profanity, and emotions? I did not use any of that.

sorry I said the word "shit", used caps and conveyed emotion.

Whatever...I can't even fathom the thought process that allows you to ignore the other shit that goes on daily..to find an issue with this statment. I don't claim to be right I am just bewildered with what some people find unprofessional here.



1509. Post 6172478 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 11, 2014, 01:35:04 PM
Ok guys, speculation on when the 3rd China ban will happen ?

This is exactly like the ban from December. Mass panic, then nothing happened and we rally.

Only difference is the fact that some Chinese banks actually closed accounts.

only difference is they always planned to close those accounts, based on Dec 5 policies. They have an article of the Pres. of the PBoC saying bitcoin isn't banned on bitell.



1510. Post 6172674 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: TERA on April 11, 2014, 01:39:50 PM

My thought process? I'm simply discussing the topic at hand, in the thread. Unlike you, who wants to divert my attention away from the topic as some kind of defense against actually have to discuss it.

I personally have no problem with the statement posted. I am not diverting it anywhere I am making it clear you're applying double standards to which you find fraud or misrepresentation as bad.

https://twitter.com/BarclaysStock/status/412652178705514496

The Eurozone recovery is fragile – but it could still be enough to give profits a boost. #BarclaysSmartInvestor http://ow.ly/rNGXw

So essentially had bitstamp just been coy and hidden the message in a sentence like

The Bitcoin market recovers following Chinese manipulation - is this time for #tothemoon

would be ok?



1511. Post 6172758 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: elasticband on April 11, 2014, 01:47:54 PM
Well last night I got drunk and dumoed 10% of my holdings for some finances to see me through the next while.

Today I woke up sober and bought straight back in for a 2btc loss.

Was it worth it.... . yes I paid 2 btc to hedge some funds and some peace of mind

I slept great, woke up to my Fib bottom holding for the time being. I am just praying my exchange gets my bank re verified so I can buy before it gets above my ABP



1512. Post 6172784 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: octaft on April 11, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
HOWS is THIS INVESTMENT ADVICE? I've heard to the moon more often as joke from bears to kid at us now .. man you guys and girls take some shit so serious while just avoiding everything else of a similar nature which is actual fraud and manipulation LOOOOL enjoy being thumb suckers.

So you're perfectly content to compare a "professional" business to some randoms on the internet, yet it's everyone else that is the thumb sucker?

I'd lay 4:1 if it had said "BULL TRAP" you'd be outraged.

why I am not day trading, I don't even use them. I think we're currently in a bull trap lol

http://imgur.com/HCopK4u after being shown the previous statements which give a lot of context I am willing to admit being wrong, and say that shits highly unprofessional.

However.. I didn't compare stamp to barclays.. they compared professional brokers to stamp so I asked them how stamp should convey their message to be more like the professional thieves and included an example.



1513. Post 6172863 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

From march 24th to today.. we've been from 592 > 339 > 415-430 .. all on FUD from China...also the unprofessional aspect of the PBoC disgusts me. As well as the fact greed dictates a majority of day traders are going to use that information in one way only, the same way the used it since Dec 5.



1514. Post 6172896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: Guinpen on April 11, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
..snip..


As of a reddit translation, a day ago.. Huobi said April 18th their ICBC card deposit accounts would be halted and they would stop prior to that date. This was in a discussion with the bank manager or customer service manager not a direct with the PBoC and as well they bank c/s managers alleged it came from higher up and wasn't a typed document buy a oral communication.

PBoC today we're hearing from the President of the PBoC there was never a plan to ban bitcoin.

As stated before they just enforced Dec 5th policies.



1515. Post 6173000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: infofront on April 11, 2014, 02:16:23 PM
What's strange to me is that there's really no news here. We already knew China wasn't outright banning BTC...yet.

ever lol



1516. Post 6173407 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 02:44:41 PM
Is there some regulation in Bitcoin trading that prohibits [ insider trading ] (serious question)?
There is no regulation that prohibits the exchange owner from stealing the coins of all clients and blaming it on "hackers".  (Serious reply.)

Common property theft laws would apply in the latter case, but they are hard to enforce if the exchange is in a foreign country and the owners are anonymouous,  The laws against insider trading do not even apply, the exchanges are not registered or regulated as markets.


not in my country Jorge, keep spewing your FUD



1517. Post 6173496 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
not in my country Jorge, keep spewing your FUD
What country?

Canada

Chose my exchange, cause the owner is transparent. And works with the government actively to remain with in compliance. My only momemt of anger was during the first panic's back in Dec the website was super slow but no such issues since improvements.

check out their video on the plans for the future this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qETYr2EsiI



1518. Post 6173544 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: spooderman on April 11, 2014, 02:43:55 PM
What's strange to me is that there's really no news here. We already knew China wasn't outright banning BTC...yet.

How can you ban BTC?

Like how???

You mean knowledge of a certain set of digits is potentially illegal?

I mean we're getting to down to philosophical absolutes now thanks to bitcoin. It's make or break time for humanity. The grey area between libertarianism and authoritarianism is shrinking rapidly.

If you KNOW a string of data, and someone sends bitcoin to that piece of data, would that be illegal?

That's essentially what "owning" bitcoin is.

This needs its own thread, or more probably already has one.

Weren't people talking about border police demanding to know if people were "carrying" btc over the border, and wondering what is considered "carrying."

When making a paper wallet, I generated a private key. I picked a number our of the universe, and told the blockchain that there is where my unspent outputs should be moved to.

If bitcoin becomes "illegal" what happens? Am I supposed to forget the number? Send them to an address I don't own? In which case, what if someone maliciously sends me some more? What if the police send me more to incriminate me?

And we're where we are with drugs (the fun ones). Something that can be used to completely ruin a persons life. It's not like any other crime. Someone can just dump a bag of coke in your car and next time you're driving.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wUmevUvqxs#t=1190 decent reasoning on why it wouldn't be overly regulated in to an out right ban.



1519. Post 6173708 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 03:09:08 PM
OK so you must be referring to Cavirtex or some other Canadian exchange -- not to Bitstamp (Slovenia?), Bitfinex (Hong Kong), BTC-e (Bulgaria), or LakeBTC (Hong Kong?) -- which, last time I looked, accounted for almost all trade outside China.  

What are the Canadian regulations that apply to the bitcoin trading services of Cavirtex and other Canadian exchanges (apart from common laws, such as fraud, property theft, money laundering, etc.)? (Serious question.)


They pretty much have to adhere to the same regulation as banks, if not more. They' got their MSB license as well.

When the market wants more tightly regulated exchange they'll occur we already have the Winklevoss and Silbert funds which are just beginning. NY or Texas will probably launch a North American exchange that will foster growth due to many people not investing because of the arguments you pointed out with regulation abroad and other uncertainties.

More so generally the financial markets that claim to have regulation have enough loop holes that we have already got lots of Ponzis from the likes of Madoff to Merriman, taking peoples "safer" Fiat currency.




1520. Post 6173832 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: chilin_dude on April 11, 2014, 03:24:22 PM
Bitstamp deleted the to the moon tweet.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22ry9p/bitcoin_believer_but_does_anyone_else_see_this/

they removed the one I thought to be less polarizing lol



1521. Post 6173923 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: hdbuck on April 11, 2014, 03:30:59 PM

some PR employee had a rough night Grin

Shit now I have double retract my statement, https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/397288953025277952 so thats during the nov 2013 rally...did someone have a problem with this back then? or we're we all being chart watchers?



1522. Post 6173998 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 11, 2014, 03:37:27 PM
Hey guys, what is the reason for the ongoing bitcoin price decline?

rumors of Gox coming back

And now the rumors of China coming back.

Which is perfect for launching a new Bitcoin bubble when the dust settles!  Grin

It's reasonable to consider ~$400-450 the possible base with the possibility of more dips down close to $340 to test the low. That's ~4X the base for last year, consistent with the exponential four year trend. What's important to factor in is the dust hasn't settled yet. It will never settle completely, which is how day traders make money. Uncertainty.

Lat night was epic. Significant anecdotal evidence of a bottom was me closing my margin short position ~350 even though I was almost certain it was going lower and TERA letting her buy orders stand when she sometimes pulls them.  Maximum fear for me and detached indifference from the liquidity providers. That tells me she's made so much money from shorting, she didn't even care if she lost a little with a continued crash to $266 support.

If $340 is tested again on high volume and holds, I'll start sleeping in BTC instead of fiat. It's too early to say if this wicked correction is over, but many margin longs got wiped out (which needed to happen) and many weak hands got shaken out. The economy can only grow sustainably when capital is in the hands of competent people.

It settling quicker cause of the PBoC statement...sadly I am redeemed after all the money has been made by those predicating fear and uncertainty



1523. Post 6174579 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: hdbuck on April 11, 2014, 04:28:29 PM
i fear this might be a bull trap.

anything overly quick will be trapish ..imo...only cause we just cleared a lot of doubt but.. as of late whose to trust anything anyone says. but the despair is leaving you can already tell by the sentiment of posts here.

Fibs say 432. and 412 will help us decide if we're breaking the range of trading for the day..



1524. Post 6174734 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 04:35:27 PM
Jorge has jumped the shark with rockets and bells on.  He is indistinguishable from any other bear troll trying to panic suckers to take their money.  Time to ignore.

At least I am distinguishable from the standard bull troll who tries to convince suckers to buy AND HOLD so that the price can go up to the level where he can sell at a profit.  Angry


Hodling is recommended mainly to those who have no clue how to trade, and or have no TA understanding...I really didn't buy so I could transfer my btc back to Fiat..I bought cause I think it can revolutionize at the least payment systems.



1525. Post 6174842 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
What are the Canadian regulations that apply to the bitcoin trading services of Cavirtex and other Canadian exchanges (apart from common laws, such as fraud, property theft, money laundering, etc.)? (Serious question.)


They pretty much have to adhere to the same regulation as banks, if not more. They' got their MSB license as well.

Thanks! However, those regulations do not include insider trading or fractional BTC holding, correct? Banks do those things all the time, and the Canadian "Fed" surely does not regulate BTC holdings.  Insider trading laws are specific to stock and commodity markets.

When the market wants more tightly regulated exchange they'll occur we already have the Winklevoss and Silbert funds which are just beginning. NY or Texas will probably launch a North American exchange that will foster growth due to many people not investing because of the arguments you pointed out with regulation abroad and other uncertainties.
Great, we will see...

More so generally the financial markets that claim to have regulation have enough loop holes that we have already got lots of Ponzis from the likes of Madoff to Merriman, taking peoples "safer" Fiat currency.

The Euro bosses and Cypriot banks, IIRC, "stole" 6--10% from all bank accounts in Cyprus.  Neo & Bee's Danny Brewster then told Cypriots that his bitcoin-based bank would keep their money safe from further bank and government theft.  Eventually he disappeared, leaving behind many debts to contractors and staff, having spent all the 12,000 BTC he got from investors without any accounting or revenue, and after allegedly selling to two Cypriot citizens several thousand euros's worth of bitcoins that were not delivered.  Oh, and there are also allegations of insider trading of Neo & Bee shares on his own bitcoin-based securities trading platform, which of course was unregulated.

So much for bitcoin protecting us from greedy and unscrupulous bankers.



http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/en/Investors_inv_news_20140404_real-risks-virtual-currency.htm From today...they're looking at it but again bitcoin is unique and continues to scare those who have been raping the markets with their own rules for centuries.

Jorge if you got any info you need to share with them go ahead, “The OSC is closely monitoring investment activity related to virtual currency and we’ll take action where violations of the Ontario Securities Act are concerned.”


I would also wager that most insider trading in bitcoin is most likely done by the PBoC.

Jorge, Danny may have ponzi'd but the real idea about bitcoin is not to trust someone else with your money. I don't think anyone lost money from Danny unless they backed his business venture. To my knowledge they didn't get to the point where they had bitcoin savings accounts with deposits in existence.

and its not we will see, its we're witnessing they're growth.



1526. Post 6175118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 11, 2014, 05:05:21 PM
Jorge, Danny may have ponzi'd
I don't think he did.  To me it looks like just incompetence and arrogance, at least until the failure became too obvious to ignore.  But some foul play probably happened after that point.


but the real idea about bitcoin is not to trust someone else with your money. I don't think anyone lost money from Danny unless they backed his business venture. To my knowledge they didn't get to the point where they had bitcoin savings accounts with deposits in existence.

That is correct, but the bare protocol is not enough.  Even of bitcoin succeeds (in my definition, not just as a black market currency) ther will be a need for banks and such things.

If you're not well informed yet Jorge you should know the U.S$ is the king of black market and that is unlikely to change. No.. we are our own banks...if you mean keeping our btc funds safe from thieves, then maybe we will need safer places to access our bitcoin storage than our houses but this is no different that keeping cash at home.

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 11, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
and its not we will see, its we're witnessing they're growth.


I see many promises.  As for Silbert's fund, esterday I posted a rough analysis. It seems that the average investor lost money so far (although some have already made nice profits, and the rest may too if the BTC price goes up).  On the other hand, SecondMarket will profit in any case from fees, and perhaps more if they can buy coins below market price, e.g. from a private mining outfit.

I don't trust your analysis of second market but that is just me.  



1527. Post 6175209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: jl2012 on April 11, 2014, 05:14:36 PM


I don't trust your analysis of second market but that is just me.  


You don't need to trust him. It's just common sense as most bitcoins in BIT was bought over $400.

Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337486.0

It is the fact you have to sell to realize the loss and most people doing so are likely to be looking for capital losses to offset gains in other areas, as it is tax season. Second Market only accepted accredited investors.

Accredited investor is a term defined by various countries' securities laws that delineates investors permitted to invest in certain types of higher risk investments including seed money, limited partnerships, hedge funds, private placements, and angel investor networks. The term generally includes wealthy individuals and organizations such as banks, insurance companies, significant charities, some corporations, endowments, and retirement plans.
In the United States, for an individual to be considered an accredited investor, they must have a net worth of at least one million US dollars, not including the value of their primary residence or have income at least $200,000 each year for the last two years (or $300,000 together with their spouse if married) and have the expectation to make the same amount this year."[1]
In Canada, the same prerequisites apply, however their net worth must be a minimum of one million dollars not including the value of their principal residence

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accredited_investor



1528. Post 6175469 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: octaft on April 11, 2014, 05:35:53 PM
Why do some of you assume that because someone rich is getting into something that it must necessarily mean that that something will make money? Even smart people get burned sometimes, and that's before you consider the rich people who are stupid and born into money.

care to point this somewhere so it can be addressed.. or you just want to throw your 2 cents in?



1529. Post 6185244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: jonoiv on April 12, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
I don't think it will be too long until 300 is being tested .   Undecided

Head and shoulders on all 3 exchanges is almost complete.

just to take the opposing view, If China remains as it is I believe we'll slow grind, no point in revisiting 300 unless someone whom wants to manipulate tries, and even then he or she may end up getting absorbed.



1530. Post 6185749 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 12, 2014, 01:27:31 PM
saw a prediction to 400$ in 2.5 hours~, lets see if it holds

China is going to bed so I expect a lull, but 400 hmmm I would hope stamp could up the volume but I don't think anyone is in a rush to buy.



1531. Post 6185798 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: niothor on April 12, 2014, 01:35:58 PM
And lack of depth charts Wink
The API used by chart sites to extract the data from the exchanges requires that the entire detailed order book be returned every few seconds or so to every API client.

That API was designed by chart sites assuming that order books would contain only a couple thousand entries at most.  But robots and lack of trading fees generate LOTS of small orders on the Chinese exchange books.  Understandably, the largest exchanges truncate the book after a few thousand entries, which may cover only a narrow range of prices around the spread.

Chart sites should indicate the truncation with "..." or something.  Since they don't, their unwary clients keep assuming that what they see on the chart is the entire order book.

The chart-reporting API should be redesigned to return the order book SUMMARY in log scale (namely, total orders up to to 5, 10, 50, 100, ... USD above and below the spread; or, conversely, what the final price would be if one sold/bought 5, 10 50, 100, ... BTC or USD in one go.  But even that may be too expensive for the Chinese sites to compute and deliver in real time.


we're not talking about the data from the api , we're talking about the data on their websites Smiley
And gox was showing that even with their huge orderbook , i can't understand why huobi and okcoin are hiding this except .... fake data?

the best part if the Data is faked and they hold less coins or equal amounts to those outside of China then we shouldn't expect an over whelming rush of coins leaving their market for ours.  

some selling volume building*



1532. Post 6185857 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: niothor on April 12, 2014, 01:39:49 PM


I am guessing that chinese exchangers hold between 1/10 and 1/5 of the coins that are on bitstamp and btc-e.

There is no way they could have acquired the amount they claim out of the blue.

Time will tell , but I doubt the numbers are that wrong.


I am theorizing they have a lot of miners and or people who buy off of miners to flip on the markets



1533. Post 6187665 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: jonoiv on April 12, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
EDIT:   can't see us hitting $450 anytime soon.

wednesday

Thanks for the reply Cheesy

"Wednesday"  on it's own doesn't really help me see your opinion.




pretty clear he thinks buying pressures will bring us above 450 towards 500 by Wednesday.



1534. Post 6187755 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on April 12, 2014, 04:32:10 PM
EDIT:   can't see us hitting $450 anytime soon.

wednesday

Thanks for the reply Cheesy

"Wednesday"  on it's own doesn't really help me see your opinion.




pretty clear he thinks buying pressures will bring us above 450 towards 500 by Wednesday.

He didn't say which week.

the little trolls like this make waking up worthwhile...come on man... when some refers to a day of the week that is ahead of us it assumed to be the closet day which would be this coming week. Unless it was Wednesday today then it would be next week........



1535. Post 6187927 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on April 12, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
pretty clear he thinks buying pressures will bring us above 450 towards 500 by Wednesday.

He didn't say which week.

the little trolls like this make waking up worthwhile...come on man... when some refers to a day of the week that is ahead of us it assumed to be the closet day which would be this coming week. Unless it was Wednesday today then it would be next week........

Oh you come on, have a laugh sometimes. It's your closet day after all Tongue

right over my head,

sarcasm really rings hollow over the internet, at the least got to make sure we all know how the days of the week work.



1536. Post 6188601 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.36h):

I think sometimes we forget, that there is always going to be selling while merchant acceptance is outpacing purchasing and or HODLING. Not to mention profit taking and paying dem fiat bills that can't be directly paid in btc.

Looking at the volumes back in Nov. it seemed more or like everyone had dollars, and no one was willing to part with their btc for them on the exchanges. This mentality can wash over random country or globe of people, just needs specific catalysts and to be honest I highly doubt the positions we take here on this forum dictates any of the recent influx of selling pressure. Either way I swear every major reversal makes the skeptics rethink and we sway a 1-10% of them to our side lol



I want Adam to start a poll with who had bought or mined btc prior to joining the wall observer.  



1537. Post 6199193 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Imma go out there on a really thin limb and say bear trap



1538. Post 6199372 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on April 13, 2014, 03:06:58 PM
Imma go out there on a really thin limb and say bear trap

I say the bounce is going to be a bull trap.

I don't expect much of a bounce maybe a slow grind to 410-415 by  midnight EST, 13 hrs from now. Monday should have a trickle of buyers, thinking back I should've used the more expensive bill payment option now, cause I'd have funds to buyyyy. Exchanges in Canada based on rulings in Feb or March brought more stipulations to bill payment system as deposit vehicles for crypto. However Direct withdrawal from a bank account works too.

I want to get some coins below my ABP, and worse case situation I get em at lower than 400 if the bears are right lol



1539. Post 6199436 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: spooderman on April 13, 2014, 03:19:28 PM
We are entering the despair phase, I seriously doubt we'll see the 200s, I hope I'm right. That would hurt.

I personally think we're exiting despair. However that is because I've always been unafraid of China, nor do I day trade so I don't have to debate weather they tell the truth or string people along lol



1540. Post 6199501 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

1.43k sold on stamp to drop to 400,
1.16k bought only brought it back 5-6 dollars.

these are those only moments where I'd agree the bounce could be a bull trap cause people seem ready to sell, thinking they're getting a chance to sell high, buy low.






1541. Post 6199555 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 13, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
We are entering the despair phase, I seriously doubt we'll see the 200s, I hope I'm right. That would hurt.

I personally think we're exiting despair. However that is because I've always been unafraid of China, nor do I day trade so I don't have to debate weather they tell the truth or string people along lol

Well it is obvious that they are stringing people along, because we went from "everything is fine" to "3rd party processors have been banned" to "Some bank accounts have been frozen, but we will stay in business", the next stop will be "We are very sorry but we cant keep operating with the restrictions in place".

Nope your string of events differ from mine,

Dec 5th PBoC decided placing restrictions that hoped it would stop capital flight among other things, which included the 3rd party payment bans.
That has yet to change, and people have purely spread FUD about that one thing for 3 months now.

Yeah and still we seem to be taking price movement queues from Huobi....I assume whales and day traders can't ignore the fact sheeple react to the movements of alleged fake volume exchanges.



1542. Post 6200540 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

pretty sure it is Sunday or it just finished an hr ago in China but you know what's great on sunday ... BACON



1543. Post 6200835 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 13, 2014, 05:02:35 PM
Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

I think it is driven more simply by speculators, hodlers and commerce.  Speculators are here to make quick flips as it has shown due to the exciting new realities that bitcoin provides or many tout will provide. This new unknown is bringing waves of people that naturally force prices higher and even more so during times of extreme buying pressure.

Now as of late with lower volume and uncertainty coupled with an increased use of btc as a medium of payment @ online retailers and brick and mortar shops we're seeing an increased downward pressure, this isn't a long term issue as we're currently seeing the early adopters buy goods with their stashes instead of converting to fiat and then buying said goods. Not to mention the odd lambo and real estate sale.

So in conclusion there's going to be dips, there's going to be rallies till speculation isn't the leading factor to price discovery




1544. Post 6205853 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

we had a large spike the last time the 1d macd crossed for 2 periods, the last really good bull trap @ 710...wonder how this Monday plays out... panic buys.. I'd prefer slow grind Cheesy but you never know with bitcoin Cheesy



1545. Post 6211499 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on April 14, 2014, 11:11:32 AM
https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular
This one is still lower than previous week. Less transactions means less economy means price going down.

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-unique-addresses
This one is very slightly increasing after downtrend. More addresses means bitcoins are more spread means more people using them means price going up.

https://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume-usd
This one is still going down, albeit maybe we are close to flatlining.


Highly disagree with the first comment, currently we're in phase of spending stashes IMO. Early Adopters are buying goods via btc with no need to convert to fiat, they may or may not rebuy depending on being miners and or time frames they plan to rebuy and limit fiat funds. So more transactions = selling pressures as btc is turned to fiat by overstock etc.



1546. Post 6211511 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

2900 cny.. is but 10 cny away lol

and they hit it but 20 seconds later lol



1547. Post 6211960 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 14, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Bitstamp tweeting attempting to up the price again ?

I provided evidence that they've been doing this since Nov, and before why did we start caring now?



1548. Post 6212060 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: TERA on April 14, 2014, 12:05:04 PM
It's possible that these next couple days will be the last chance to sell above 460 for a year.

Why do you think that, do you think China is going to ban hammer and all the buyers are going to disappear...dont just make position comments with the gravity of a year long bear market and not expect to have to field some questions.



1549. Post 6213227 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: bitgeek on April 14, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
I'm looking at your predictions and most of you guys are overly optimistic. You give 5-10% to a BTC price above $7000 :O I consider myself an optimist and a bull and I think we'll see a new high this year, but that would be ~$1500. If you think we can reach $5k or more this year you're dreaming.

its really odd, that you can't stretch your mind around the fact that that kind of growth happened in 2013 already..and with the right circumstances could occur again.. but I'd think tops 4-5k



1550. Post 6215620 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: Hen0xyd on April 14, 2014, 04:07:12 PM
CCMF   Grin

I guess that's for the 2900cny break on Huoby Cheesy


seems the action is builiding and trying again to break today's resistance point



1551. Post 6215676 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 14, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
CCMF   Grin

I guess that's for the 2900cny break on Huoby Cheesy


seems the action is builiding and trying again to break today's resistance point

This is one nasty pump. Cry

doubt its a pump, well I just feel the market is easing back in as they digest bitcoin isn't getting a surprise overnight ban in China...these people probably want to beat a race for coins when the psychological deadlines are passed.

We'll see though if they can break the resistance points and shoot to 500, they can retrace a bit and ramp up some continue pressure.



1552. Post 6216794 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: cbeast on April 14, 2014, 05:17:47 PM
It looks like April 15th is the start of a new China rally. Volume is up.


growing, but I mean this kinda of commentary has spurted from most bullish mouths many times, including my own. What is harder to do but wiser, is wait a week or 2 to see this all plays out



1553. Post 6217376 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

Quote from: uhoh on April 14, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
This is a very dangerous game. The levered shorts are hoping another China crash will come before they are force liquidated and the levered longs are counting on the shorts getting liquidated before the crash. Smart players like TERA are long but not levered, ready to pull the trigger and profit either way and I'm on the sidelines watching and learning.

The swap fees amount to somewhere around 60% annual interest. The pressure is building and is going to blow one way or the other.

The bear market didn't suddenly end because some exchange decided to invest in ATMs. China isn't suddenly irrelevant. A SUSTAINED reversal isn't something that happens this quickly with no big news. If it happens at all it happens slowly as utility value replaces speculative value.

The question every wise investor asks themselves is "Is time my friend or my enemy?" If time is your enemy, chances are you are on the wrong side of the trade.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but there has been unexplained reversals in the past (or rather, you find out the news after the run-up, which seems more likely these days with institutional money). Nice volume today though, gonna be an exciting week it seems.

and the idea that there has been plenty of good news and progress buried in the fear of China's policy making methods



1554. Post 6217543 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

was that short covering on stamP?



1555. Post 6219335 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

2950 huobi.. and stamp was still short covering lol



1556. Post 6219734 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

LET'S GIVE PROBABILITIES TO THE FOLLOWING EVENTS
a) In 2014, price will visit below 100 = .5% ( range of this time frame is less than two months and would only occur upon Chinese confirmation of Banning from the president himself not Weibo not exchanges)
b) In 2014, price will visit below 200 = 2.5% ( ties in to the above )
c) In 2014, price will visit below 300 = 5%  ( Failure to launch coming out of April and some FUD could retest our bottom )
d) In 2014, price will visit below 400 = 25%  ( ties in to above again)
e) In 2014, price will visit above 500 = 100%  (Where I imagine us around Apr 20th and probably leaving this range as we enter may)
f) In 2014, price will visit above 750 = 100%   ( if we slow grind here before the launch to new ATH its probably late may
g) In 2014, price will visit above 1000 = 100% ( JUNE JUNE JUNE JUNE )
h) In 2014, price will visit above 1250 = 100% ( JUNE JUNE JUNE JUNE)
/LET'S GIVE PROBABILITIES TO THE FOLLOWING EVENTS



1557. Post 6219884 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

So refrain from quoting him or her, hit ignore and realize as I have lately that name calling and swearing detracts from the point you wish to make.



1558. Post 6220252 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.37h):

as long as you turn that back to btc, then I'll permit your position taking lol



1559. Post 6232840 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 14, 2014, 04:12:32 PM
CCMF   Grin

I guess that's for the 2900cny break on Huoby Cheesy


seems the action is builiding and trying again to break today's resistance point

This is one nasty pump. Cry

doubt its a pump, well I just feel the market is easing back in as they digest bitcoin isn't getting a surprise overnight ban in China...these people probably want to beat a race for coins when the psychological deadlines are passed.

We'll see though if they can break the resistance points and shoot to 500, they can retrace a bit and ramp up some continue pressure.

and my
e) In 2014, price will visit above 500 = 100%  (Where I imagine us around Apr 20th and probably leaving this range as we enter may)

China is the thing everyone is waiting for to sell on, but I think something new is required for us to retrace past 400 at this point. If people haven't wised up to China insider tactics then they're lost causes IMO.



1560. Post 6233299 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 15, 2014, 04:10:15 PM
Im scared to even drive home, cant take your eyes of this for a second at the moment!

I've had my best sleep during these last weeks, as I know as a holder I won't be swayed. Must be rough on those playing the ebb and flow of the market.



1561. Post 6234604 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 15, 2014, 05:18:50 PM
So now we wait until the so called Chinese wake up again to start trading?

We will know soon enough



What I dont understand though is that according to some people there is a massive influx of money from the west into the BTC environment, still we dont seem to be able to start our own rally on one of the western exchanges.

yeah lots of money has gone in, I've seen people on stamp grab a 1000 coins at market before the dumps...this example covers both my points. Smart money doesn't rush into the market generally speaking, they're going to wait for China's ability to crash us 100+ on social media leaks to subside while being on the sidelines picking up coins on the bottoms of these crashes. After that they might make some market buys depending on their perceived growth patterns. It is silly, terribly silly to market buy anything above 250k when sheeple feel as if they're walking on thin ice..



1562. Post 6247326 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Flash to 500, trying to cause panic on news that gox will liquidate ...really bears.. really... 550 was just to much to handle huh? well if this trend continues 575 by tomorrow lol



1563. Post 6247368 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: niothor on April 16, 2014, 11:51:31 AM
Flash to 500, trying to cause panic on news that gox will liquidate ...really bears.. really... 550 was just to much to handle huh? well if this trend continues 575 by tomorrow lol

At least there is no Chinese easter , the bears could have another reason to drop to .. 200 or what the expected low?

You never know what can happen, maybe Jesus returns and accepts bitcoin as a donation?

however, my guess Profit taking disguised as Flash crash lol...too increase profits.



1564. Post 6247443 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: magicmexican on April 16, 2014, 11:55:35 AM
2h macD is probably going down, unless its an epic trap

With the China sheeple in bed, stamp is left at the batting range alone besides dem ever trading bots so we shall see. I think the gox news will be a cooler as well, but let's just see what stamp feels as NA wakes up



1565. Post 6248189 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

well there is the correction.. When will it bounce is the real question...as nothing really besides gox and the sentiment of day traders that we we're over bought.



1566. Post 6248214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: TERA on April 16, 2014, 12:49:17 PM
Did anyone verify the chinese news today is real? I looked at the link and it was something something xxx ching chang.chong and I didn't want to go because it might be a virus.

It was just a rehash of whats already been said countless times. There hasnt been any news out of China since Dec 15th the situation is exactly the same now as it was then.

In other news the west seems to be overtaking China. There way of telling the Chinese they dont care for their FUD???

By real I mean the article isn't a complete fabrication by a trader.

Seriously, just few days ago PBOC had a public conference and journalists asked about Bitcoin, and the governor said : "PBOC Won’t Ban Bitcoin " ..... I did notice that each time the price goes up an article popup about china banning Bitcoin, the one from today said that they will do it after one week, in December they said they will do it on new years then February, then in March they said the 15th April... come on people.... played me once, shame on you, played me twice shame on me...

http://www.coindesk.com/chinas-central-bank-governor-pboc-wont-ban-bitcoin/
This isn't about banning bitcoin. It's about segregating it from the fiat banking system. People are free to use the bitcoin technology but not pay an exchange with their bank account.

Day 1 of hodling for me buying bitcoin with my cash in hand and depositting it into someone elses account not via any intermediary exchanges...still got my bitcoins and I live in Canada



1567. Post 6248346 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

2h macd crossed front running day traders, are going to get burned if someone starts unloading fiat cannons gotta love those lagging indicators...makes for a nice firework show.



1568. Post 6249943 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 16, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
2h macd crossed front running day traders, are going to get burned if someone starts unloading fiat cannons gotta love those lagging indicators...makes for a nice firework show.


getting a lil crispy



1569. Post 6251262 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

At this time I suspect a bull whale to like the resistance shown when nearing the point of crossing under 500 and perhaps with some general buying pressure will attempt to keep the market in a position to trigger a 3d macd crossover.



1570. Post 6253292 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: bobdude17 on April 16, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
Just in case you guys aren't watching Reddit:

Second Market Exchange is now LIVE!

https://www.secondmarket.com/bitcoin-trading

25BTC transaction minimum.


Ahead of schedule.

Let the summer of American investors begin Cheesy or Divestors



1571. Post 6255162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Quote from: KeyserSoze on April 16, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
http://thebitcoinnews.net/n/2014/04/16/first-bitcoin-atm-lands-in-latin-america-2/

So Jorge can now run people through the risk of bitcoin before they purchase, he'll be like a warning disclaimer.



1572. Post 6255236 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.38h):

Friday would coincide with the 3d Crossover, shall we say...Party on Friday ?



1573. Post 6267306 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

not sure why the people weren't expecting those accounts from OKcoin or atleast Huobi to close.. they stated they would be closing certain accounts, not sure which totally but...yeah w/e 500 seems stronger than before but we shall see.



1574. Post 6267717 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 17, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
not sure why the people weren't expecting those accounts from OKcoin or atleast Huobi to close.. they stated they would be closing certain accounts, not sure which totally but...yeah w/e 500 seems stronger than before but we shall see.

What amazes me is that BTCChina has not published news about their bank accounts closing.

Might be one, account. Maybe they fixed all the issues, or closed the account preemptively as per usual



1575. Post 6267837 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: p0peji on April 17, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
not sure why the people weren't expecting those accounts from OKcoin or atleast Huobi to close.. they stated they would be closing certain accounts, not sure which totally but...yeah w/e 500 seems stronger than before but we shall see.

What amazes me is that BTCChina has not published news about their bank accounts closing.

because this is another rumor perhaps which is senseless ...


I dont think that Huobi and Okcoin will publish rumors that might hurt their business on their main page, if you are still thinking this is just a rumor you are very ignorant.

its not a rumor.. it just been addressed ahead of time, in the last statements they made...I don't know why you're trying to make this sound like something new.

oh right you're trolling lol



1576. Post 6267976 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

What I could really go for but sounds like a huge long shot is that Stamp decouples...from the Chinese exchanges.



1577. Post 6268058 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: dreamspark on April 17, 2014, 03:53:33 PM
What I could really go for but sounds like a huge long shot is that Stamp decouples...from the Chinese exchanges.

How would that work? If Stamp shot off then the arbers would just buy coins on Houbi and dump them on Stamp...

Well then the Chinese would have to prove how many coins the fake volume represents.



1578. Post 6268274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 17, 2014, 04:08:03 PM
What I could really go for but sounds like a huge long shot is that Stamp decouples...from the Chinese exchanges.
How would that work? If Stamp shot off then the arbers would just buy coins on Houbi and dump them on Stamp...
Well then the Chinese would have to prove how many coins the fake volume represents.
They have been proving that since last October.  They are proving it right now...  Sad
what are they proving right now Jorge, that they have the coins.. or the volume is fake?



1579. Post 6268568 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Stamp dump volume growing.. I still think its a bear trap. Perhaps a really clever one. But nobody really knows.



1580. Post 6273173 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: windjc on April 17, 2014, 10:03:47 PM

At any rate, you are ignoring the bear flag on Houbi. Everyone just wants to see what they want to see.

maybe you most of all.



1581. Post 6273197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 17, 2014, 10:05:36 PM


My chart showed two alternate situations, a wedge, or an ABC pattern. if the wedge was broken, I said it would floor above 480. It says on the chart! read it!

don't even bother with people, you nailed the call on dropping back in to the 480 range and bouncing. They want to be ignorant, or search for a reason to bicker, just hand em the ignore and keep up the nice EW analysis



1582. Post 6273321 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: windjc on April 17, 2014, 10:11:30 PM

At any rate, you are ignoring the bear flag on Houbi. Everyone just wants to see what they want to see.

maybe you most of all.

Interesting. What is it you think I want to see. I called the top around 530 and missed it by 10. I called a retracement to 480 and missed it by 6.

Houbi bounced weakly off of this last leg down. Now it is edging up again on very very very low volume, just like it does almost every day when it is in a up trend. In the next 3-7 hours, larger money will trade on Houbi just like it did the last 4 days. And that larger money will decide if this bear flag turns into a rocket ship or into another leg down.

I called the bottom on the last drop, I don't think that gives me the right to tell the next person calling a bottom he's bonkers...as far as I can tell you're displeased that he predicts a bounce off of 480?



1583. Post 6273364 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: chessnut on April 17, 2014, 10:13:47 PM
My chart showed two alternate situations, a wedge, or an ABC pattern. if the wedge was broken, I said it would floor above 480. It says on the chart! read it!

don't even bother with people, you nailed the call on dropping back in to the 480 range and bouncing. They want to be ignorant, or search for a reason to bicker, just hand em the ignore and keep up the nice EW analysis

... Cheers Davy. Im on a roll. Ive been wrong before, and I will be wrong again, but so few people can see the validity of what Im doing. makin money and thats good enough for me. Cheers.

Cheers, don't get me wrong people can't debate with you and debate your calls.. but when it' shifts to an attempt to bicker it loses the positive side to sharing new ideas.



1584. Post 6273448 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: windjc on April 17, 2014, 10:27:46 PM

At any rate, you are ignoring the bear flag on Houbi. Everyone just wants to see what they want to see.

maybe you most of all.

Interesting. What is it you think I want to see. I called the top around 530 and missed it by 10. I called a retracement to 480 and missed it by 6.

Houbi bounced weakly off of this last leg down. Now it is edging up again on very very very low volume, just like it does almost every day when it is in a up trend. In the next 3-7 hours, larger money will trade on Houbi just like it did the last 4 days. And that larger money will decide if this bear flag turns into a rocket ship or into another leg down.

I called the bottom on the last drop, I don't think that gives me the right to tell the next person calling a bottom he's bonkers...as far as I can tell you're displeased that he predicts a bounce off of 480?

My humblest apologies to Chessnut and to you.

I just got a little annoyed because he posts rudimentary EW analysis without consideration of other factors. And the best EW analysts on this forum who charge for their services, would be the first to tell you thats suicide.

You can't ignore volume. You can't ignore divergences. You can just look at market sentiment or ignore long terms trends just because your pattern says their should be a wave 4.

EW is a guideline. And the reason it gets criticized is because a lot of newbie EW traders are always redrawing their lines because they don't take in the entire picture.

I'm not saying he is wrong about us going up. I am saying he will be wrong a lot in the future using only EW.

well put nothing to be sorry about, I don't think he alludes to this data as life or death, he advocated one person to have their own break out plan for either situation...

I myself am soley waiting on the 3d MACD for the next signal from the market... its been a while since it could turn green, which is 2morrow 20:00 UTC.

I don't dispute your belief about volume, I've given volume a whole new importance after Tera kept touting it all the way down from 710 bull traps...possibly even you yourself mentioning it.

China is a land mine for TA, In one day they had a bank account close ( which I thought was going to occur due to the last press release a week ago or more...) and then a new 3rd party deposit option Cheesy hard to navigate these sentiment land mines.



1585. Post 6273545 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

True, but I mean I don't fundamentally believe bitcoin can be Banned in China.. so whatever they say.. it is just talk to me. I don't doubt they can hinder it.. but they can probably make more money and hedge with it lol.



1586. Post 6287596 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

@windjc I believe you have been vindicated by the market action, nice call on the volume importance.

However I played my first game of golf this year...arm is killinggggggg but the market is up 20 bucks from the tee off, So I got that going for me.



1587. Post 6287771 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

http://qz.com/200602/china-just-revealed-a-major-state-secret-nearly-20-of-its-farmland-is-polluted/

China has much bigger problems than capital flight from bitcoin.



1588. Post 6287931 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c36UNSoJenI&feature=youtu.be&t=2s but this is why Bitcoin can't be stopped.



1589. Post 6289032 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: KeyserSoze on April 19, 2014, 12:15:14 AM
From George Papageorgiou and Øystein Aaby, former top employees of Neo & Bee
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/

In Antonopoulos' response I find it interesting he says, "I will continue to advocate for security controls rather than trust in individuals." This really drives a stake into the heart of Bitcoin philosophy which is something like, "Trust in math and individuals rather than the relative security of banks."
http://antonopoulos.com/2014/04/18/neo-bee-a-statement-by-andreas-m-antonopoulos-a-consultants-perspective/

We have banks because even though they do naughty things from time to time, they are relatively secure whereas individuals are not. Perhaps recently banks have begun to wear out their welcome by overstepping but we shouldn't forget life is about balance. Perhaps Bitcoin won't replace banks but will find a role in keeping banks from being so overbearing.

As long as people are getting 0-1% interest on cash holdings.. that the banks can then loan out.. and in theory fractionally reserve style. Just because there hasn't been a bank run since the depression cause they probably figured out the majority of the controls to stop that form happening following that...and accompany that along with laws that prevent banks runs in America.. we don't really know how trust worthy Banks are.

I mean the taxpayers bailed out the richest fuck ups in the last crisis lol... banks.. safer.. pshhhhhh



1590. Post 6296363 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: nanobrain on April 19, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
The benefit  to consumers is that your funds are safe from confiscation by inflation or outright takings.

BTW, DPR got his coins confiscated and people get coins outright taken all the time so maybe re-evaluate your rhetoric.

if you leave your keys in the car it is vulnerable to theft.  Bitcoin is easier to secure than any other exchange medium in the world.

Having read many of your other posts I understand you do not admit when you're wrong so I will leave you whatever last words on this you'd like, however you've now changed the topic, stated your opinion as fact, and not bothered to address any of your earlier mistakes. So it wouldn't really be worth the effort to continue correcting you.

Troll.

Wow, what a come back.

Keyser is no troll, as you well know...what happened to you Aminorex?
I remember when your sig was "thank you for making me feel welcome" and would treat everyone with respect; now you lurch around picking fights and bashing posters with cod Latin.

Bitcoin -- the force for good?

youre being ignorant if you can't tell the last post by Keyser is a troll. Likewise for himself if he thinks that's being witty or something.



1591. Post 6296491 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

I alluded to a bear trap while we we're falling from 545 and was hoping it wouldn't break the 500 resistance but it did...I still believe most of what has played out to be a bear trap...it is Easter most people have family shit to arrange the Greeks got lambs to spitfire roast...I went golfing...my friend worked a shift where he got paid 2.5x his regular hours for Friday shift...All in all manipulation works best on lower volume and at times people can't wire money as quickly to the exchanges. Not to mention 330-470 buyers could profit take all they liked..and start re buying on the local bottom if the saw fit.

This is all pure OPINION


edit: as for my 3d MACD cross the dump kept it just shy...but now I am thinking it was planned so we could have a 3d cross on Monday the 21st 20:00UTC
        It's tin foil hat commentary but it seems likely to me that there would be a bigger panic sell if we have a small rally or two maybe late Sunday to ensure
         a ripe Panic buy on the 3d macd can occur.



1592. Post 6303777 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

lol, I am starting to side with the bears, on the need to chillout.. most likley the spike on the 4hr macd bots.. let it play out before we start to see a upward play...however I think that is Monday.



1593. Post 6310772 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Manipulators going to Manipulate... whatever.. life carries on



1594. Post 6311052 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on April 20, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
Huobi on BW showed a little progress then froze again.  Bid side, log, current price still at ~3101.  Ask side down to 2090 (yes, 2090, not 2900).



Well its up let see if it goes down to 2090.

those darned errors



1595. Post 6316509 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on April 19, 2014, 02:47:42 PM
I alluded to a bear trap while we we're falling from 545 and was hoping it wouldn't break the 500 resistance but it did...I still believe most of what has played out to be a bear trap...it is Easter most people have family shit to arrange the Greeks got lambs to spitfire roast...I went golfing...my friend worked a shift where he got paid 2.5x his regular hours for Friday shift...All in all manipulation works best on lower volume and at times people can't wire money as quickly to the exchanges. Not to mention 330-470 buyers could profit take all they liked..and start re buying on the local bottom if the saw fit.

This is all pure OPINION


edit: as for my 3d MACD cross the dump kept it just shy...but now I am thinking it was planned so we could have a 3d cross on Monday the 21st 20:00UTC
        It's tin foil hat commentary but it seems likely to me that there would be a bigger panic sell before and if we have a small rally or two maybe late Sunday to ensure
         a ripe Panic buy on the 3d macd cross.


well suh.. If I do say so myself suh...it would appear to be primed for a panic buy on Monday suh....

oh its 9:30am, Monday in China you say? lol



1596. Post 6316647 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

Yeah the manipulators are going to manipulate in both directions...I'm still patient..I Know that like me people just wake up or re evaluate situations. Some times incentives like in my case and if I had started that miner $2500 miner in 2010' or understood speculation in 2010. Incentives like these really kick you in the pants.



1597. Post 6330429 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.39h):

3d macd cross no panic tho Cheesy thats in an hr or 2



1598. Post 6361265 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

slow grind, I am happy to see there wasn't any panic plays over the weekend..



1599. Post 6368865 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

final goxxing as the liquidation is proceeding?

the new info is on the website

my guess would be that people expect a 200,000 btc liquidation, some are hoping to front run and hope to buy back in on the panic sell.




1600. Post 6378872 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on April 24, 2014, 08:22:38 PM
I was thinking about MTGox's 200,000 Bitcoins they found in that old wallet or whatever it is.  At some point the bankruptcy is going to sell those coins and dump them on the market in one big go turning them into FIAT.  There is no way I see them distributing out those coins as Bitcoins.  What will that do to the market?  If they released all 200,000+ coins at one time?  Seems to me that's exactly what they are going to do.

hopefully they dont tell anyone and dump on stamps at 3am EST


to cause as much damage OPPORTUNITY as possible

hehe yeah I mentioned this last night with people front running on a panic dump...I would imagine the bankruptcy trustees can manage to not just sell them on stamp.. I would assume Second Market, Winklevoss, bigger investors who want bulk buys are talking, or trying to talk with the bankruptcy trustees



1601. Post 6379035 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: rpietila on April 24, 2014, 08:29:30 PM
hehe yeah I mentioned this last night with people front running on a panic dump...I would imagine the bankruptcy trustees can manage to not just sell them on stamp.. I would assume Second Market, Winklevoss, bigger investors who want bulk buys are talking, or trying to talk with the bankruptcy trustees

Wow, what a bunch of vested interest in keeping the price low... Cheesy

Boys, the way for us to profit is to buy (or at least not sell) now, as the price suppression continues.

The trendline is at $1100 now, it's better than last October Wink

If my income was greater, I'd convert more to btc lol



1602. Post 6383988 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

People have been on that manip tip, and who'd stop when sheep still flock.



1603. Post 6384131 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: dannyspk on April 25, 2014, 04:01:51 AM
I think we'll be testing 450's again. This is pretty much where it should end.

it'll take as long as it likes. pick up coins if you like.



1604. Post 6384467 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: shmadz on April 25, 2014, 04:36:10 AM
here's a question,

why doesn't this get more play around here?

http://www.cnet.com/news/mt-gox-liquidation-given-go-ahead-by-tokyo-court/

this effectively means that any and all assets of value will be sold to make a pile of money for the lawyers and accountants and all them,

I would see this as cheap bitcoin flooding the market, but I have sometimes been know to see things which are not there.

discussed yesterday, I wrote it off as un likely for those coins to hit the exchanges.



1605. Post 6384575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

nothings crazy is really occurring. its a natural reaction when a chicken cuts its own head off. that's all.



1606. Post 6385004 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Stamp stopped giving a fuck



1607. Post 6385256 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: Cassius on April 25, 2014, 05:43:59 AM
Stamp stopped giving a fuck

Europe is asleep.

I wish. My son woke up early and I'm dividing my time between getting some work done, these boards and the Night Garden. Honestly I'm not sure which is more surreal sometimes.

and stamp is back on the reaction slide.. I gotta send money to the exchange tomorrow.. lowering average buy in price ..Is just a must..

found 1900 cash in trust to me, it was a mutual fund setup in 97' it peaked in 07-08' at like 2400...initial value was 1100... I mean 14 years to be up $800.. in a growth fund.. I think I'd rather give the 1800 14 years in cold storage as btc now.



1608. Post 6385304 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: y3804 on April 25, 2014, 05:58:16 AM
Why does this ridiculous panic continue? Wth is wrong with these idiots!

Because it is the end of Chinese pump era, this time Confirmed!

What he said ^^.

China led us from $100 to $1000. China will drive us back to $260. End of story.


LOL...that is all..



1609. Post 6402923 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: prophetx on April 26, 2014, 07:51:31 AM
We are either going to go up and test 2830 on Houbi or this extended correction from last night's low is going to be retested. We are just kinda floating in space here.

So, the question is, who is optimistic on Houbi? Because otherwise it can only be down at some point.

sentiment appears down, the btc atm's were supposed to be flooding the markets now come summer, but it's very quiet.

almost eerily quiet.  i guess we will see soon enough.



these fluctuations are tapering out..... generally a downward trend, but as repeated alot of people who are weak handed are just quitting bitcoin as China just creates a cloud of uncertainty they prefer to not deal with, and day traders have to play these swings, possibly increasing the effects of the wild swings. Give it a couple months and China's game will seem petty and shameful to have been so sheepish to fall for.



1610. Post 6402976 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

Quote from: windjc on April 26, 2014, 08:01:02 AM
We are either going to go up and test 2830 on Houbi or this extended correction from last night's low is going to be retested. We are just kinda floating in space here.

So, the question is, who is optimistic on Houbi? Because otherwise it can only be down at some point.

sentiment appears down, the btc atm's were supposed to be flooding the markets now come summer, but it's very quiet.

almost eerily quiet.  i guess we will see soon enough.



these fluctuations are tapering out..... generally a downward trend, but as repeated alot of people who are weak handed are just quitting bitcoin as China just creates a cloud of uncertainty they prefer to not deal with, and day traders have to play these swings, possibly increasing the effects of the wild swings. Give it a couple months and China's game will seem petty and shameful to have been so sheepish to fall for.

Having watched these markets closely long enough, its pretty obvious to me why there are fractals. The bots are basically outlining the movement for us between drops. Fiat is leaving the market, China is dying and along the way there is a pretty obvious pattern now. The ones that realize that have created bots to squeeze as much out of the fractal movement as possible.

Its a highly predictable market at this point, despite what everyone believes.

enjoy making all that money then.



1611. Post 6403070 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.40h):

@windjc .. no I am just saying if its predictable go ahead and make the money.. that's all on you Cheesy I am to pansy for that atm



1612. Post 6429042 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Some would rather be detractors of change, then be apart of it. Statements rooted in logic and facts summarized with conclusions akin to day time tv talk show hosts or Bill O'Rielly



1613. Post 6447134 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

I may sound like a broken record as I keep saying I'll deposit money and don't mostly due to having satisfied my short range target btc holding with a 540 Avg buy in price. Goxxin and China bans didn't surprise me as I was fielding these questions from friends in November. I know not everyone has great foresight but...to get caught up in the political and monetary motivations of a Communist country that isn't really communist, kind've shocks me. I mean they are trying to ban the internet before it becomes the internet, as we know bitcoin is currently used mainly as a payment system / speculative play, but can become something so much more then this and it is silly to act like it can be stopped cause people fear financial risks that their populations speculators are taking in the early stages, especially when we have bigger criminals robbing us on the daily.

Also in some sense Bitcoin / a Blockchain embodies the idea of communism ( in the sense that we all help to sustain or maintain the blockchain p2p ). Makes me laugh that China probably is more afraid of bitcoin damaging the USD $'s global value in the coming years, and they got all that American Debt they need to offload first.



1614. Post 6450697 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Anyone read that Gox is being saved? or am I being trolled

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mt-gox-stakeholders-to-try-reviving-exchange-2014-04-29#



1615. Post 6451142 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Quote from: TERA on April 29, 2014, 07:07:35 AM
Wasn't the fate of mtgox being overseen by a judge now? When I see that a judge made a ruling, then I'll pay attention.

At a separate hearing before the judge Thursday, they are expected to present their case for that agreement, which in addition to the equity stake includes prorated disbursements out of Tokyo-based Mt. Gox's holdings of 200,000 bitcoins and traditional currency. The terms would apply to all creditors worldwide, though it was signed on behalf of U.S. and Canadian members of the proposed class actions. If the U.S. court approves the plan, the investor group, Sunlot Holdings, would then seek approval of the Japanese court overseeing the bankruptcy.

new fud date besides the China bs, seems farm from concrete. I guess will see if they bring this to the Japanese court.



1616. Post 6451975 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Huobi hasn't decided if the pump is on or not lol



1617. Post 6452275 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Quote from: windjc on April 29, 2014, 08:34:13 AM
Huobi hasn't decided if the pump is on or not lol

Around a 2k dump on Houbi.

see they decided it wasn't quite the pump they wanted



1618. Post 6452624 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

Quote from: windjc on April 29, 2014, 09:26:41 AM
Some serious indecision on Houbi. I would guess its from three factors.

Money trying to get off exchanges.
Fresh money wanting to buy bitcoin "cheap" to try and usher in a new future after these exchanges get cut off (see Chinese gaming company that bought 40k)
Delusional traders who don't realize money is leaving exchanges and the exchange can't really rally past a certain point anymore and non-delusional traders who are trying to catch the ups and downs as the trend continues.

Note: this is all 100% speculation on my part.

China is a proper way for the market to experience despair, and even more so to many traders that value China's buying pressure so highly. Let North America or Europe foster the next wave of buying pressure...China has too many problems to worry about with all them usd tbills

Edit: grammar, structure + Huobi seems to be bouncing of fibs on the 1 day charts



1619. Post 6470508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

imagining a play where the bulls are pumping a bit so bears sell in to them.



1620. Post 6472240 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.41h):

evidently nobody is satisfied with letting things play out. I assume those people aren't totally happy with their positions in one way or another. Happy Chart watching.



1621. Post 6486529 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Why do we always regress to bickering...I love you all, may we all find wealth and happiness in our own ways.



1622. Post 6486980 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

May 10th is the day before Mothers Day? The great tulip crash.. abhahaha.. couldn't help but add a pun.

Odd they'd set a date for a weekend deadline or news release though?



1623. Post 6500914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

I've been debating the likely hoods of break outs with China reading the story Chicken Little. In conclusion if btc reverses we will know..stop debating on it everyday, play this trend of pump and dump as best you can if you see fit, but IMO have a position that will benefit you if and when the trains brakes' break off.



1624. Post 6503053 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

there's a panic dump



1625. Post 6514759 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: TERA on May 02, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
It's just so ridiculous to see Stamp following every move China makes. It's pathetic. Bitcoin traders are pathetic.
Nobody is sitting there making all these decisions. It's a program running an algorithm. Apparently the algorithm is profitable because the owners keep it running. Relax...
+1




1626. Post 6535760 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: Cassius on May 04, 2014, 07:28:12 AM
This is clearly the pre-amble for the big rally to $5,000

Tera, has someone hacked your account?

Can't hate on her play acting like the rest of my fellow bulltards...cause they've literally proven the point that any change is a reason to post ccmf lol



1627. Post 6548392 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on May 05, 2014, 01:58:46 AM
Whats with the silly bull buying 2000 coins right before the big drop.

 Huh

Where? When?

Which 2000 coins? Which big drop?



if you check the minute charts you'll see them green candle stick out on the volume chart.. 19:50 to 21:00 somewhere in that range.. Tera fears the wrath of China



1628. Post 6562458 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: shmadz on May 05, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
Jay, my friend, you have an incredible knack for using a lot of words to say nothing.

+1 I had to ignore him for this.. not that anything he says or does particularly disturbs me.. but wall of text battles with trolls are just.. a big waste of time.



Mind you the increase of ignoring has risen steadily this week..exponentially..generally I take this as a reason to buy lol



1629. Post 6566781 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 06, 2014, 03:06:59 AM


They really seem to be talking out of both sides of their mouth... and accordingly engaging in selective enforcement tactics, which is NOT anything new.. to pick off the most vulnerable in society and pick off the most easy to target folks.

To respond to my earlier comment, I felt bad about ignoring you cause..there really was no reason.. lol ..and in your first response to my post you understood my meaning 100%.  So in honor of that, though you may not care, have earned life time un-ignored status...But yea more tolerance for walls of text as trolls just usually post cheap ass one liners!

I was reading through the article at yeah it really does scream hey we need bitcoin cause we're just stepping over constitutional rights life right and center..and then oh hey a Corporation broke the law...ahh fuck it.. fine em their daily lunch money.




1630. Post 6566931 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...




1631. Post 6567187 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.42h):

Quote from: xulescu on May 06, 2014, 04:49:33 AM
I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...


You accumulate better if you short from time to time Wink

..lol..I couldn't sleep in shorts...unless we we're speaking of reality. Cheesy
Probably wouldn't sleep in longs or long johns either.

Quote from: silverfuture on May 06, 2014, 04:51:00 AM
I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...



One does not simply blast off or choo choo mf without gathering fuel and laying some track.

Indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE8nmKpmXY

no wonder its been slow.. re laying tracks isn't a fast process lol



1632. Post 6567355 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: windjc on May 06, 2014, 05:08:38 AM
I'm sorry, but if there is anyone on here that does not see the blatant similarities to the market's  sell off behavior now vs. the days leading up to the Gox closure, then you deserve not to make any money.

In the days preceding Gox closing, everyone was in denial (including myself).  The market just slowly melted down, with an uptick as rumors became darker and darker. Then finally the news hit and the market gave up.

The EXACT same thing is happening now. The writing is on the wall and only those in denial are buying now. Even shorts are stupid to cover as we are gaining downward momentum. Its t-minus 96 hours and the news of a major shutdown could happen at anytime virtually.

If you don't want to short (which is fine with me - less covering later) then you should not buy under any circumstances. Let this ride.

man...if only people listened to this crap..and no offense to you but its pretty crap...as the gox and china situation hold almost no fundamental similarities...

your statements read to me as don't buy cause I think we're crashing at least 100 $ or more dollars by x date... also I'm shorting, join me in this process and profit... or don't but don't buy.

Mind you I don't doubt we shall dip.. but I hope the people you're telling not to buy already bought at 33x.xx



1633. Post 6567389 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: silverfuture on May 06, 2014, 05:10:14 AM
I am just going to view this bear phase as the accumulation phase...as that really seems to be underlying theme...



One does not simply blast off or choo choo mf without gathering fuel and laying some track.

Indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE8nmKpmXY

no wonder its been slow.. re laying tracks isn't a fast process lol


..or safe in some instances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o87MgkGAqeU
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Yeah sad part of my history..sadly humanity has been taking advantage of one or another for far to long...I hope to see bitcoin rise to its full potential to help humans bank without third party crooks.



1634. Post 6567518 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: windjc on May 06, 2014, 05:21:49 AM
I'm sorry, but if there is anyone on here that does not see the blatant similarities to the market's  sell off behavior now vs. the days leading up to the Gox closure, then you deserve not to make any money.

In the days preceding Gox closing, everyone was in denial (including myself).  The market just slowly melted down, with an uptick as rumors became darker and darker. Then finally the news hit and the market gave up.

The EXACT same thing is happening now. The writing is on the wall and only those in denial are buying now. Even shorts are stupid to cover as we are gaining downward momentum. Its t-minus 96 hours and the news of a major shutdown could happen at anytime virtually.

If you don't want to short (which is fine with me - less covering later) then you should not buy under any circumstances. Let this ride.

man...if only people listened to this crap..and no offense to you but its pretty crap...as the gox and china situation hold almost no fundamental similarities...

your statements read to me as don't buy cause I think we're crashing at least 100 $ or more dollars by x date... also I'm shorting, join me in this process and profit... or don't but don't buy.

Mind you I don't doubt we shall dip.. but I hope the people you're telling not to buy already bought at 33x.xx

Really??!!

So, Gox dying does not = Houbi, BTCChina and OkCoin dying??

Oh yes it does. That is what is happening here. Do you not get it?

This is exactly the kind of denial I am referring to. This is happening. We are in the middle of it.

Do I think we go to $100? No. Although we did for an instant with the Gox situation.  Do I think we can retest 270? Yes I do. Do I think we will. I do not know. I will trade the market as it develops, however, people need to wake the F*** up!

No they clearly do not equal each other... M.K not having coins that customers owned.. vs a country bringing regulation in to place are nothing alike.. hey China could be worse...I don't know..based on the past with China I expect they'll continue to laugh and repeat we said you can't ban bitcoin.

I don't see where I refute the likeliness of a drop...so I'll just be glad you made your position a bit more clear to others.



1635. Post 6567610 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: windjc on May 06, 2014, 05:33:38 AM
I'm sorry, but if there is anyone on here that does not see the blatant similarities to the market's  sell off behavior now vs. the days leading up to the Gox closure, then you deserve not to make any money.

In the days preceding Gox closing, everyone was in denial (including myself).  The market just slowly melted down, with an uptick as rumors became darker and darker. Then finally the news hit and the market gave up.

The EXACT same thing is happening now. The writing is on the wall and only those in denial are buying now. Even shorts are stupid to cover as we are gaining downward momentum. Its t-minus 96 hours and the news of a major shutdown could happen at anytime virtually.

If you don't want to short (which is fine with me - less covering later) then you should not buy under any circumstances. Let this ride.

man...if only people listened to this crap..and no offense to you but its pretty crap...as the gox and china situation hold almost no fundamental similarities...

your statements read to me as don't buy cause I think we're crashing at least 100 $ or more dollars by x date... also I'm shorting, join me in this process and profit... or don't but don't buy.

Mind you I don't doubt we shall dip.. but I hope the people you're telling not to buy already bought at 33x.xx

Really??!!

So, Gox dying does not = Houbi, BTCChina and OkCoin dying??

Oh yes it does. That is what is happening here. Do you not get it?

This is exactly the kind of denial I am referring to. This is happening. We are in the middle of it.

Do I think we go to $100? No. Although we did for an instant with the Gox situation.  Do I think we can retest 270? Yes I do. Do I think we will. I do not know. I will trade the market as it develops, however, people need to wake the F*** up!

No they clearly do not equal each other... M.K not having coins that customers owned.. vs a country bringing regulation in to place are nothing alike.. hey China could be worse...I don't know..based on the past with China I expect they'll continue to laugh and repeat we said you can't ban bitcoin.

I don't see where I refute the likeliness of a drop...so I'll just be glad you made your position a bit more clear to others.


Actually I think we got a little off topic. I was just pointing out obvious technical patterns similarities as far as this downtrend. I believe we are picking up steam.

Perhaps I am saying the idea conveyed by your message was, don't buy now its way to bearish out there, higher chance at a better entry price is coming but short with me if you have the balls...reads as some sort of advice.

What I think you mean to convey is that buying is not the way to profit with the current bearish sentiment...shorting is an option for the seasoned traders but waiting for clarity from China is  the next safest entry or re entry point for longer term plays.



1636. Post 6567914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

so is this bounce a nice bull trap ? I sure feel like it might be ... hate fast recoveries unless BTC China tweeted some sort of clarification



1637. Post 6568105 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

From 2009 Bitcoin birth, because of its innovative thinking , math and beautiful design , Bitcoin has developed in the world , many people think that bitcoins as a payment technology that can improve efficiency and reduce costs. Regulatory agencies around the world out of respect for innovation , given Bitcoin suitable for development , China's regulators are also very wisely gave Bitcoin relatively tolerant regulatory environment , and propose their own risk in the five ministries jointly file the case can be traded freely bitcoins .
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did someone beat me to an English version?

edited for grammar on my part only.. and then pointed out something I think is interesting at the least lol



1638. Post 6568139 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 06, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
What next, am I suppose to expect to see  "Suddenly, PBOC completely changes their stance on bitcoin because of ethics note written by OKcoin. Bank accounts will no longer close."

Pretty sure it was the top 5 exchanges.. and no.. but its nice to know they're communicating :d



1639. Post 6568344 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

...so when do you close the shorts Wind.. Tera do you even have a short open?

Just asking.. I know it requires a combination of volume and price change just wondering...



1640. Post 6568405 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: windjc on May 06, 2014, 06:49:43 AM
...so when do you close the shorts Wind.. Tera do you even have a short open?

Just asking.. I know it requires a combination of volume and price change just wondering...

I am not closing my shorts. If we rally up I will add more.

You know I be asking for that rally point in $price D: ( slight thuggish voice while reading )



1641. Post 6568427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 06, 2014, 06:51:48 AM
Is the random Chinese pump the ideal time to buy? I would think of that as the worst possible time to buy,  and the ideal time to buy would be when China is completely out of the system.

some how.. the part about China being complete out makes me think you're delusional, if not completely blind.



1642. Post 6568454 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: mooncake on May 06, 2014, 06:52:10 AM
I don't see anything there about the PBOC saying anything...

This isn't "exchanges and pboc reach agreement". This is "exchanges write note to beg and plead PBOC one last time".

You obviously do not understand how Chinese business works.

Please enlighten us.

In China in general, you won't see announcements made public until privately parties have reached an agreement. There are exceptions of course, but judging from the content, the timing and the involved exchanges, it is highly possible there had been discussions with PBOC.

finally my international business course pays off...well it payed of when I stopped thinking the way I see it done locally is the way I should expect the rest of the world to do things lol



1643. Post 6568502 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 06, 2014, 06:55:09 AM
Is the random Chinese pump the ideal time to buy? I would think of that as the worst possible time to buy,  and the ideal time to buy would be when China is completely out of the system.

some how.. the part about China being complete out makes me think you're delusional, if not completely blind.
it is in future tense

clearly your point is that there will be no Bitcoin Exchange run domestically in China right?
I am saying I highly doubt every Chinese soul will want to rid themselves of bitcoin



1644. Post 6568588 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: mooncake on May 06, 2014, 07:02:22 AM
I for one think that if they did reach an agreement, that BANKS WOULDN'T BE SHUTTING DOWN THEIR ACCOUNTS TODAY and they wouldn't be tweeting about banks shutting down their accounts.

Well, the boss must show that she is the boss. Otherwise, how will people respect her?

 Not to mention we've seen consistently with each Bank Channel premature closure by one or two banks and mainly due to self censorship rather then direct request, but I'd be in denial to believe that.



1645. Post 6568621 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 06, 2014, 07:09:13 AM
So basically the 5 major exchanges have all agreed to tax HFT (which I assume would be a HUGE disincentive), to agree with all banks account bans, and to cut off leveraged trading.

So, in effect, aside from losing their bank accounts, the exchanges are now going to take away most of the incentives Chinese have to trade bitcoin.

So, I would assume this means that any Chinese person who has money invested in bitcoin because they simply want to trade it will now have reasons to pack their fiat bags and go home or into another market, and those that simply want to hold will stay.
I think we're talking about 95% of the volume.

So is this volume real or fake.. cause half the bears cry that the flood of coins are coming..

but the if the volumes fake then we we're just being sheep? which one is it?

cause then China's PBOC has clarified our greatest questions and soon we will see...Bullish if its fake.. Bearish if not ( and you believe 95% of Chinese bitcoiners we're traders)



1646. Post 6568636 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: windjc on May 06, 2014, 07:10:15 AM
I for one think that if they did reach an agreement, that BANKS WOULDN'T BE SHUTTING DOWN THEIR ACCOUNTS TODAY and they wouldn't be tweeting about banks shutting down their accounts.

Well, the boss must show that she is the boss. Otherwise, how will people respect her?

 Not to mention we've seen consistently with each Bank Channel premature closure by one or two banks and mainly due to self censorship rather then direct request, but I'd be in denial to believe that.

Well I guess it depends on what your definition of "premature" is. If ignoring the December directive until April is premature, then yes, you are correct.

So you going to show me a statement from the PBOC saying they've not followed said directives dated and with examples.. Or are you just going to show me a bank shutting and account down for.. something they claim came from higher up?



1647. Post 6569113 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Dec 5th statement agrees wind..I just dunno how the PBOC sucks at enforcing it so badly.

I mean for the Chinese they have digested the good and the bad.. but I would agree they expect more bad...we'll see how Mother's Day ends up



1648. Post 6569433 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 06, 2014, 08:04:44 AM
Dec 5th statement agrees wind..I just dunno how the PBOC sucks at enforcing it so badly.

I mean for the Chinese they have digested the good and the bad.. but I would agree they expect more bad...we'll see how Mother's Day ends up

The chinese businessman in the other thread explains it very well. Basically the PBOC is too big to typical involve itself with something as small as bitcoin (which shows how threatened they are by it). For this reason, because the PBOC communicates with only the top level bank officials, the top level bank officials feel its beneath their pay grade to deal with and it gets passed down and eventually lost, because the people authorized with the responsibility don't want to do it - its embarrassing for them. In it in fact the exact opposite of what many bitcoin enthusiasts imagine - bitcoin is actually TOO SMALL for the banks to want to deal with closing all the accounts.

Here's the article:

http://bitcoinblog.de/2014/04/28/chinese-banks-dont-know-how-to-act-appropriate-cause-bitcoin-is-too-tiny/

Probably clearer to a Chinese person what was defined on Dec 5th.. but that article with the two small argument sounds silly...there is easily enough here to blanket ban...

"Notice" requirement , at this stage , financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service , may not be sold or traded bitcoins as a central counterparty shall not be covered with bitcoin -related insurance business or insurance will be included bitcoin range not indirectly provide customers with bitcoins other services, including direct or : to provide customers with Bitcoin registration , trading, clearing and settlement services ; accepts bitcoins or bitcoins as payment and settlement tools ; carry with bitcoins RMB and foreign currency exchange services ; conduct Bitcoin storage , hosting, mortgages and other services ; issue with bitcoin -related financial products ; would bitcoins as trusts, investment funds and other investment targets .

no need for picking or choosing.. I think its highly likely we're just watching gov. manipulation happen with zero fucks given on being obvious or not.



1649. Post 6569526 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: Searing on May 06, 2014, 08:36:49 AM
Dec 5th statement agrees wind..I just dunno how the PBOC sucks at enforcing it so badly.

I mean for the Chinese they have digested the good and the bad.. but I would agree they expect more bad...we'll see how Mother's Day ends up

The chinese businessman in the other thread explains it very well. Basically the PBOC is too big to typical involve itself with something as small as bitcoin (which shows how threatened they are by it). For this reason, because the PBOC communicates with only the top level bank officials, the top level bank officials feel its beneath their pay grade to deal with and it gets passed down and eventually lost, because the people authorized with the responsibility don't want to do it - its embarrassing for them. In it in fact the exact opposite of what many bitcoin enthusiasts imagine - bitcoin is actually TOO SMALL for the banks to want to deal with closing all the accounts.

Here's the article:

http://bitcoinblog.de/2014/04/28/chinese-banks-dont-know-how-to-act-appropriate-cause-bitcoin-is-too-tiny/

Probably clearer to a Chinese person what was defined on Dec 5th.. but that article with the two small argument sounds silly...there is easily enough here to blanket ban...

"Notice" requirement , at this stage , financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service , may not be sold or traded bitcoins as a central counterparty shall not be covered with bitcoin -related insurance business or insurance will be included bitcoin range not indirectly provide customers with bitcoins other services, including direct or : to provide customers with Bitcoin registration , trading, clearing and settlement services ; accepts bitcoins or bitcoins as payment and settlement tools ; carry with bitcoins RMB and foreign currency exchange services ; conduct Bitcoin storage , hosting, mortgages and other services ; issue with bitcoin -related financial products ; would bitcoins as trusts, investment funds and other investment targets .

no need for picking or choosing.. I think its highly likely we're just watching gov. manipulation happen with zero fucks given on being obvious or not.


I'm unclear does all this apply to bitcoin manufacturer's? ....in other words you have a company that 'builds' asic devices for sale ....does this also effect them?

pretty sure as ..they pretty much couldn't sell them via alipay and or alibaba is it? yeah and http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-china-bitcoin-idUSBREA070F620140108
I mean.. perhaps they're just sadistic and are killing bitcoin of like young kids might kill insects... one appendage at a time

I will admit I do say fuck you to my sleeping schedule whenever China starts banning and the traders start the p&ds .. and I'm not even long or short.. lol



1650. Post 6580982 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 06, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
Chinese markets were open as early as 2011 so your mistaken [ in relating them to the Oct/2013 bubble ]. .
Are you refering to BTC-China?  When did Huobi and OKCoin open?

On Bitcoinwisdom, BTC-China's data starts 2011-06-09 with ~1.5 BTC/day, OKCoin's data starts on 2013-06-12 with 0.004 BTC/day, Huobi's starts on 2013-09-01 with 134 BTC/day.  BTC-China always charged trading fees; I am not sure about OKCoin, but I think I read that they initially charged fees until Huobi came up with its zero-fee policy and they had to follow.  So maybe it was the zero-fee trading by Huobi, specifically, that attracted the Chinese habitual speculators.

dude have you heard of Google? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchange-btc-china-eliminates-trading-fees/

They opened with 0.3%, then in September of 2013 dropped it to 0% in hopes of cementing their control of the market. I believe the owner Bobby then re-instated fees after faking volumes cries came out and the PBoC rulings became clearer... and then re-instated zero fees again http://www.coindesk.com/btc-china-drop-fees-adding-btc-ltc-trading-option/

( I admit better than the 3.0% I have to pay to do a buy/sell move @ CaVirtEx but low volume exchanges with proper security help me sleep at night )



1651. Post 6581014 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Adam is my default Leader..I follow him blindly...except for when his resolve waivers and he'll try to sell his bitcoin to pay bills.



1652. Post 6581870 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: BitChick on May 06, 2014, 09:50:02 PM
The market has continued to be pretty flat over the past days.  Really starting to feel like the calm before the storm

I was wondering, do we always have a "calm before the storm?"  I seem to remember right before the last run we had a big sell off because of the Silk Road closure but it was not really calm.  Feedback from the veterans would be appreciated on this.

You're more of veteran than me. I would just add that patience is all a hodler needs. Cheesy



1653. Post 6582096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: BitChick on May 06, 2014, 10:20:20 PM
The market has continued to be pretty flat over the past days.  Really starting to feel like the calm before the storm

I was wondering, do we always have a "calm before the storm?"  I seem to remember right before the last run we had a big sell off because of the Silk Road closure but it was not really calm.  Feedback from the veterans would be appreciated on this.

You're more of veteran than me. I would just add that patience is all a hodler needs. Cheesy

One year in Bitcoin and I am now a veteran?  That was fast. Wink

It seems that the price likes to stabilize a bit.  We were all whining and complaining and posting "Tired of $140" last Summer.  It really seemed to like that price for a long time.  Then there was the Silk Road closure, a flash crash to $90 or so then the price began to move steadily upwards to $200 then it went ballistic.  Perhaps the drop to $350 was the final capitulation and now we were back to the calm.  I don't really know but the charts are looking good.

I can't wait till I can say I've held my coins for a year...clearly you and BCHusband got some patient bones Cheesy

The bottom we hit..could be the yearly low..as I look over Fib's 270-300 imo are rock bottom and hitting it would probably send buy signals that will turn a bounce in to an ath style rally



1654. Post 6586177 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 07, 2014, 03:06:48 AM
I'm wondering - the Chinese are now up already for ~3hours and we ain't crashing yet... What's different today?
they're executing the pre pump before the sudden crash, just like apr 25, mar 25, etc

so using logic that would mean we can expect a bubble in the future..



1655. Post 6586623 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

I think they're statements are shaping up to be hot air...unless they we're hoping to maximize the length of a bear market then mission accomplished Cheesy



1656. Post 6590379 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

good ole spring time optimism



1657. Post 6602179 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Will we finally manage to keep a 3d macd crossover green...that is what I am hoping to see ( on stamp).



1658. Post 6627591 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2014/05/minitrue-gao-yu-dispute-vietnam-bitcoin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+chinadigitaltimes%2FbKzO+%28China+Digital+Times+%28CDT%29%29

more interesting is that China is probably afraid of bitcoin.



1659. Post 6639819 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 09, 2014, 08:47:44 PM
back on topic it looks like where moving up!

indeed, Its all that "hopium" the Chinese are on lol



1660. Post 6643446 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

Quote from: TERA on May 10, 2014, 01:49:53 AM
Right, it's all over because of the countertrend rally on huobi, again. I guess the Chinese bulls have taken over, and will lead us out of the Chinese bear market, or something,

It's okay Tera, we know you can't believe in a world with China still trading bitcoin.



1661. Post 6645197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Back to back green markers on the 3d macd, at least we should soon be able to tell whether or not the market is ready to shrug off the Chinese banning rhetoric.



1662. Post 6645884 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on May 10, 2014, 05:44:53 AM

finally, a voice of reason.

Hmm.  Id prefer you not project all that on me.  But I have never posted a train picture before.  I wonder if anyone besides me sees why this is a good day to post one?

it's a decent time to bet on reversals. but by no means safe.



1663. Post 6666247 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Woe is me ...price dropped 13 dollars.. after going up $39..from the Monday low of the week were still in.



1664. Post 6667324 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: windjc on May 11, 2014, 09:52:42 AM
Why the hell is the market going down? I thought it was all trains and moons?!

Where is Chessnut? I want an explanation immediately.

Keep shorting what else is there for you to do?

I haven't been paying attention so I'm not sure if Chessnut is leveraged long..but I doubt he' gives a fuck Cheesy about a $14 swing as the Chinese go to sleep following a deadline that was met with no announcements or actions.



1665. Post 6667415 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: TERA on May 11, 2014, 10:01:30 AM
lol at the people who were posting their game-plans of how we were breaking out to $600 and then 2 weeks later we'd be at $800 and then 2 weeks later we'd be at $1,000

It is a fine balance between you posting the lovely ms paint job of the trend repeating itself until we drop into the ...the volume.

Quote from: TERA on April 29, 2014, 08:05:35 AM





1666. Post 6667543 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: windjc on May 11, 2014, 10:05:22 AM
Why the hell is the market going down? I thought it was all trains and moons?!

Where is Chessnut? I want an explanation immediately.

Keep shorting what else is there for you to do?

I haven't been paying attention so I'm not sure if Chessnut is leveraged long..but I doubt he' gives a fuck Cheesy about a $14 swing as the Chinese go to sleep following a deadline that was met with no announcements or actions.

No, but what the bulls should be concerned about is the fact that this latest short rally didn't even get as high as the last short rally and it died on very low volume.

So again, I ask. How do we rally with people buying coins?

Perhaps as the fear continues to disperse and other things becoming clearer. Maybe money is on its way to exchange in the forms of wires for Monday. Maybe we'll see a blanket ban from PBoC on Monday...

**see you edited bear to bull being concerned.

however.. you explained how we rally..by people buying bitcoin. I would expect the rush to build as people become more and more reluctant to short the market and wait for re-entry signs ...however we all make that call on our own.



1667. Post 6667625 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: boumalo on May 11, 2014, 10:25:14 AM
Bumpin up against that $460,-.

Once we break it, we can post train and moon pics.

I can feel all the fiat on the exchanges waiting to buy, it may arrive when we don't except it anymore



Bitstamp is like... 'lol what should we do about all this fiat? I guess post some vague tweets about bitcoin going to the moon'


Yes, I'm not on Bitstamp but on Kraken, but I can see my few fiat waiting on the ground !

The sentiment is very bad on Bitcoin but the same people that tell you they think it is going down are keeping ton of cash on the exchanges; that makes me very bullish

Only sentiment that I notice as bad.. is the clarity on how to operate a Crypto Currency exchange in China...besides that I don't notice to many negative things.



1668. Post 6681577 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/10819885/David-Cameron-Taxes-will-rise-unless-we-can-raid-bank-accounts.html

uh...bullish for bitcoin ..lol



1669. Post 6682719 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Mothers Day destroyed all the basement dwellers



1670. Post 6683487 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

buying seemingly started on both stamp and huobi

I was expecting someone to close the arb gap on them. but this will do.



1671. Post 6684679 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on May 12, 2014, 09:53:59 AM
Today Bitpay is coming with a huuuuuge announcement right?

http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2014-05-12/07139373191.shtml

china has a cooler floating already



1672. Post 6684908 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: dreamspark on May 12, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Today Bitpay is coming with a huuuuuge announcement right?

http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2014-05-12/07139373191.shtml

china has a cooler floating already

Not quite sure what its saying but the part about FXBTC not allowing users to remove coins etc is scary.

The rest of it just seems to be saying the same as we know, especially about leveraged trading.

yeah they went all ELI5 on leverage...I am just saying it seems more like a calming peace.. flat apparently is cool with the PBoC



1673. Post 6718374 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: turtlehurricane on May 14, 2014, 05:19:41 AM
A little bit of action on Houbi, unlike the straight lines on Bitstamp and BTC-e

I don't mind flat, the market needed a small breather.



1674. Post 6760607 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

China breaking out at bedtime?



1675. Post 6761613 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.44h):

Quote from: TERA on May 16, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Why is it that bulls speak so emotionally and inappropriately while bears speak so calmly and rationally?

Nice troll, currently in contention for the best of 2014'



1676. Post 6779106 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: Mythul on May 17, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
Another day, again no movement...

which means the bearish pressure remains to hold off...maybe there loading up for the final dump.. maybe the bulls are just eating the coins to quickly.



1677. Post 6789511 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 18, 2014, 12:32:25 AM
There are 5000+ BTC for sale on Huobi for 2900 CNY or less, 120 CNY (20$) above the spread.

On the other hand, the bid side below 2760 is hidden, apparently because there are zillions of tiny bids between 2770 and 2775 CNY (and only in that range).  Could it be on purpose?  If truth is being hidden, it must be ugly...

Jorge your fear mongering is cute.



1678. Post 6790267 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 18, 2014, 01:09:07 AM
There are 5000+ BTC for sale on Huobi for 2900 CNY or less, 120 CNY (20$) above the spread.

On the other hand, the bid side below 2760 is hidden, apparently because there are zillions of tiny bids between 2770 and 2775 CNY (and only in that range).  Could it be on purpose?  If truth is being hidden, it must be ugly...

Jorge your fear mongering is cute.

Some call it "cute," and others call it "whacky."   Cheesy

I was pretty much okay with the content, till the bolded area. Where he goes all X-Files on us.

That is to say it could be just as easily argued that someone could be hiding support bids in case of a flash crash on the low volume at Huobi...we can bicker all we want and speculate...but when we start sounding like late night radio hosts it just becomes cheap and ugly.

I know it would be argued that Jorge is voicing this opinion to perhaps save someone from making bad investments but it seem more like fear mongering to scare some noobs to being afraid of China that they sell at or near a bottom.



1679. Post 6791338 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 18, 2014, 03:42:17 AM
I know it would be argued that Jorge is voicing this opinion to perhaps save someone from making bad investments but it seem more like fear mongering to scare some noobs to being afraid of China that they sell at or near a bottom.
his investment seems questionable, at best - to supposedly save us from ourselves.
I don't want to save anyone on this thread. I assume you all are adults and know the game you are gambling in.  I feel that I have an obligation to warn people who may be lured into investing in bitcoin with false promises, but they are unlikely to be reading here.

Interesting...I too would hope no one is lured in to buying bitcoin prematurely. It should be a lengthy process...took me roughly two years to mull it over. When I finally did decide to speculate I found my first wallet, MalwareBytes scanner kept my small mined btc safe after a false detection sent the wallet.dat to a quarantine folder, found my .10 of a bitcon safe and sound.



1680. Post 6805153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.



1681. Post 6805226 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: oda.krell on May 18, 2014, 11:18:18 PM
Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

I really preferred the old system, where new accounts were required to post first in the newbie section. Too bad it looks like theymos won't bring that back though.

It made tons of sense to me and helped me find the forum I wanted to be on when I first joined.

But hey the ignore works for both sides so we got that atleast.



1682. Post 6807607 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Early Monday volume start in China.



1683. Post 6808255 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

I do see the odd 0.01 btc buy/sell



1684. Post 6830273 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

..so the bull markets on..



1685. Post 6831947 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

I think the pictures show that Huobi is nothing like Gox... and the people who took the Photo did a much better job framing it for Huobi.



1686. Post 6832781 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

yeah a quick google...https://www.huobi.com/help/?a=detail&id=vipdes&lang=en



1687. Post 6844112 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Chessnut where are you..its time to float Cheesy edit: Gloat Cheesy

edit2: China seems to waking up early to this reaction ..as the next round of buying might begin...we may see how strong the market is trully feeling.



1688. Post 6849322 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

So China setting their sights on higher highs?



1689. Post 6850901 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

I will admit Jorge does keep it rather civil and on topic.. I consider animals on charts on topic Cheesy



1690. Post 6870622 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

I am all for sustainable growth, but close to the ATH I would expect more flash in the pan flexes



1691. Post 6886314 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: y3804 on May 23, 2014, 02:51:09 AM
Where is that ripple shill troll at now?

Don't hate.

Also, I see patterns on the 5 min chart:

http://i.imgur.com/Ca8tyu2.png

how could you not though...Mah use to say two things ripple..and buy. I am sad that in theory, if he really did take his own advice, he has been burnt by it
.



1692. Post 6886503 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on May 23, 2014, 03:14:22 AM
lol, wat a tard market selling now.

sell the news till the people google translate it, and then buy the walls people move down.. could be a nice play for someone with enough coins



1693. Post 6886554 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on May 23, 2014, 03:18:11 AM
It's obvious now that some big money players are buying; putting up an ask wall to keep the price in check while accumulating coins and moving up along the trend line. Question is when do they run out of fiat and will the train continue without their influence. I'm thinking if we push over 600 it will continue, what do y'all think?

Accumulation has been occurring far longer then the last two weeks...if not before the last bottom was hit...This is a mix of new blood and others re-buying after leaving at the top in Dec or early Jan imo.



1694. Post 6887976 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: ChrisML on May 23, 2014, 05:38:26 AM
$110 every week for the next 4 months.

Mjes mjes, I like. $2350 by september?  Cool

I called 1000 in June '14 when I was talking to friends in October 13' after buying my first couple coins and then to the moon occurred.

Breaking 3375 on China would probably mean stamp will head for their next point resistance point imo being 650-655



1695. Post 6906526 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on May 23, 2014, 05:42:29 AM


I called 1000 in June '14 when I was talking to friends in October 13' after buying my first couple coins and then to the moon occurred.

Breaking 3375 on China would probably mean stamp will head for their next point resistance point imo being 650-655


My guess is traders used that resistance point to dump and take all the weak hands coins'...guess we see 650 if the Chinese buy enough to push through that resistance point.



1696. Post 6906579 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: darlidada on May 24, 2014, 04:44:49 AM
Weird how people suddenly are dumping. They are just so afraid we might go down again.

Let them dump, it has not much of effect. We went down $15,-. Been there, done that.

The sooner the retards are gone the better Smiley

I call another try for that wall $550,- within the next 24 hours. Before that we might see $505 on Bitstamp, but thats about it.

lol I was thinking about dumping and buying back sunday as its usually cheaper. But reading your post made me think again about it. I am a noob but my strength comes from knowing it. So I rely on you guys.

To make this clear, never rely on anything someone says here. Buying cause someone on here says you should buy... is stupid. Do what you think is best, with, I certainly hope, some common sense Tongue

Everyone can be wrong Smiley

I dont buy because someone say I should. I buy because of arguments. I know I shouldnt trade, especially since I want to hold long very long term but sometimes emotions got the better off me so I come to this thread to hear the voice of reason. I agree you are not all the incarnation of this voice, but I filter. Nonetheless, I think its urgent that I make a brain wallet so I dont do any stupid shit in case the best posters disappear and the only persons left are retards like me !

Edit: Thanks Adrian, I'll keep that in mind.

This is what happened: I had bought at 388, I wanted to sell off at 380 to buy back on sunday because its usually the moment where people lacks fiat. But now its 383 and rising ! I think I would have punched myself in the nose to educate me a little. This is how I learn. My problem is I can stand being down short term. Its been hard to buy and buy in a bear market as everytime you back the next day its lower. Now I've launched multibit and this terrible software tells me that I've less amount in BTC that I had deposited. I think I should put some stuff into my asshole so I learn about dignity and how to handle loss like a fucking man.


Remember selling fees, or you end up just increasing your trade volume Cheesy As I've learned since our last peak I sold a couple times during the bear market..but re-entered far to quickly generally getting bit worrying about being priced out. Which I do chalk up to the majority of my price watching experience had been bear trap after bear trap on the run up last Nov and not expecting those bull traps on the way down.

I am not a day trader so swings plays or leverage aren't my cup o tea...but the next Rodeo I'll try and be more patient whenever I do listen to the sell signals which we're right for me, but I gave in to the fear of being priced out ( despite not selling more than 15% of my coins).



1697. Post 6921555 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Weekend buying, I like.



1698. Post 6923064 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

looks like the action is snow balling



1699. Post 6923420 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: rezurect on May 25, 2014, 04:55:09 AM
Couldn't break 550 during the weekdays. What happens if 550 is broken during the weekend?
I guess the rally on Monday is going to be really powered up.

That's if there are buyers being held off at the moment.. I use to place bill payments wed or Thursday get tick over Saturday night Sunday morning

There are also faster deposit methods now.



1700. Post 6923527 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: solex on May 25, 2014, 05:10:58 AM
Money is finally hitting the exchanges. This could get nuts..

Are you saying new money is hitting the exchanges? Or people that have money on exchanges are buying? If your speaking of the former, how do you know?

No money arrives on a weekend. People with money already sitting on the exchanges are buying now, probably because they have given up waiting for another major dip and want to be on the train before fresh money arrives Monday.


that is just not true sir. I can't assume you read the last 3-4 pages but I fully explained how my money came in on weekends before in the Nov rally as well.



1701. Post 6923563 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:17 AM


I called 1000 in June '14 when I was talking to friends in October 13' after buying my first couple coins and then to the moon occurred.

Breaking 3375 on China would probably mean stamp will head for their next point resistance point imo being 650-655


My guess is traders used that resistance point to dump and take all the weak hands coins'...guess we see 650 if the Chinese buy enough to push through that resistance point.

Seems like my poll price pt was too low...I can't deny know that 600 seems imminent.. I wouldn't be surprised if the retrace occurs in the 580-600 range.



1702. Post 6923764 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

China going for it again.. will that re trigger stamps more patient buyers?



1703. Post 6923794 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: keithers on May 25, 2014, 05:42:36 AM
In the green on the 3 month chart for the first time in awhile I think...
3d? and green on what?  macd?

wops misread.. obviously u just ment the candle lol



1704. Post 6924039 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

@Jorge

I was looking it over, seem like stamp was flat 04:50 utc but spikes hard at 04:51 utc, looking at Huobi they were buying from 04:46-04:50 with 330 trade volume.. still seems like Chinese exchange users are buying larger volumes

Looks like the did that stuff again..while I was typing lol. man this Monday will be interesting...and before that a whole Sunday to be entertained



1705. Post 6924066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

I knew His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat was watching over us Cheesy



1706. Post 6924333 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

At this point.. I'm amazed that after seeing people buying up large amounts of coins in a shortish period..you'd jump on the first dump to feed the same people buying a cheaper supply coins while they make a small flip profit if they happened to be who started the dump when we have moments of calm Cheesy THIS is all opinion not a fact as to what is happening but I can't help but feel this way as it appears to have been happening for a week now.



1707. Post 6925012 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Seems like my claim that this was but another phase of tricking weak hands in to giving those hoping in the market cheaper coins @ bigger volume is panning out.

Can't believe were at 580s door step... and I'm generally bullish...



1708. Post 6937634 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 25, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
So today is the official end of bubble day. And this is being declared on the basis of one posting on the internet. Quel dommage.
Actually, as I posted above, I believe that the bubbles of 2013 were real, due to the increased demand from the opening of the Chinese market.  I see the Markus/Willy activity as being merely the arbitrage that copied that real bubble to MtGOX, using 100+ million virtual goxDollars.

On the other hand, my conclusion is not very different from your mocklusion above.  As I posted before, for a new bubble there must be another increase in demand comparable to that of the Chinese market in Nov 2013.  It could be new community of users, or a new application that convinces some existing community to buy a lot more bitcoins.  I don't see either yet.


Jorge in bitcoin there can be a decrease in the willingness to sell as well, which also has contributed to the steep rises. Combine that with increase demand to buy and you get exponential rises.



1709. Post 6937734 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: windjc on May 25, 2014, 10:00:41 PM


Please see edit above. I opted out of the bet. Again, I apologize to Mmitech.

lets do it this way, a word bet, If the price wont touch touch $100 I will quit posting on this forum Smiley

You wanna do the bet with a "e-handshake?"  If so, I will gladly say YES.  

Of course, its up to us to hold each other accountable. But I will gladly pay you 20 BTC the day LTC reaches $100 in 2014.

And I can just hope you are as true to your word.


You think the both of you are on ignore by that many people lol.. you got me ..I'll remember this moment



1710. Post 6937814 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: mmitech on May 25, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
I wont forget, it is in my signature Smiley I just hope you will also honor your word  Smiley

I got a screenshot too..I hope you just have bought an extra 20 btc worth of ltc with the price worked out for what 100 LTC = to btc in the future Cheesy


Sidenote unrelated to above : I was looking at volume it looks like it's heading back to similar number as we saw at the start of the run up...however based on how many coins some people got in the bear market were going to minting millionaires in 3 months again.. so it seems.



1711. Post 6941528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on May 26, 2014, 04:01:22 AM
600 gonna faaaaallll

Atleast it's Monday Cheesy Here and China



1712. Post 6944020 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Man couple hrs till people wake up in North America.. except the west coast Cheesy



1713. Post 6945293 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: windjc on May 26, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
I would not be surprised to see the market do what it did at 490-495 - consolidate for a day or so before making a move up to 500.  This looks like it could become a 560-590 consolidation before the next leg up.

Unless the fiat cannons have fired all the ammo...I think it's more likely we push close to 600-650 and consolidate in there...Also we'll see if there is a steady stream of buyers it might prove that it was the new blood taking a single to hop on a train.

Last Nov I took my single from the market shaking sr1.0 off like it was nothing, I hope this years moment was the Chinese Regulators chilling out Cheesy following the ending of leveraged trading and HFT fees.



1714. Post 6965204 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: podyx on May 27, 2014, 07:41:00 AM
Dropping to 530-550 now?

IMO more of the same, the Facebook wallet thing on reddit might be the reason there selling.. cause they're hoping for bigger lots of btc when the panic dump occurs



1715. Post 6965427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: podyx on May 27, 2014, 07:48:07 AM
Dropping to 530-550 now?

IMO more of the same, the Facebook wallet thing on reddit might be the reason there selling.. cause they're hoping for bigger lots of btc when the panic dump occurs

Isn't the facebook wallet bullish??

I'm alluding to a game plan where you start a panic dump, then buy back your position as it drops. They expect the news to hit by xx:xx am/pm and if they're acquiring more bitcoins and they expect the 600 resistance to fall they just laugh all the way up.



1716. Post 6966156 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

personally feel this is panic...but maybe not.. I suppose pigs could be getting slaughtered or whales profit taking..so many options Cheesy



1717. Post 6966223 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

Quote from: dreamspark on May 27, 2014, 09:02:18 AM
Just wait for the buying back to start and the pigs to be slaughtered Wink

Stamps 4h charts looking at the volume candles pretty similar... except the market depth was eaten Cheesy almost 2ice now. so this time around had a more severe price effect ...and so might end up with higher volume and more dumping but I feel the pigs are going to be fried.

already surpassed the past candle by 300btc



1718. Post 6966332 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

bull trap to real low retrace.. or we going str8 to 600? 

or what I thought originally a way to get more coins then before, and make profit Cheesy



1719. Post 6974682 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.47h):

called it last night as an accumulation play



1720. Post 7032135 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Huobi waking up Bitstamp?

seems like it was just btc-e joining the party near 570

500 btc buy on huobi.. leggo fireworks.. Cheesy

there's stamp reciprocating

...uh are they trying to break 600 randomly lol



1721. Post 7032508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: magicmexican on May 30, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
The bus is leaving! Glorious pumps ahead, next stop 700$

huobi keeps snatching up large orders



1722. Post 7033080 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on May 30, 2014, 10:14:19 AM
Thanks for adding another wall, dipshit.

walls are good, they get eaten in bull markets Cheesy



1723. Post 7033508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

the weekend are when the movement starts.. are they trying to try and make bigger institutional buyers play catch up in the weekdays

I say we hit 650 before retracing again ..but that's a bulls dream



1724. Post 7044214 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: 4mherewego on May 30, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
400 buy Smiley

The end of the week has been hot as of late, I speculated that individual traders are trying to kick start institutional investment into buying during the week with this Fri & Sat. If we go bullish all weekend I'll be inclined to think that idea isn't so tin foil based.



1725. Post 7044614 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: David M on May 30, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
Steady now Bitcoin, Steady.

$638 is where I think it will run into trouble.

a) Top of the envelope.
b) Highest weekly close since March is ~$638.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg360zigWeeklyztgCzbgEza1gWMAzm1g13za2gWMAzm2g52zvzcv

still betting 650$ and retraces towards 600$ ..27 to go.. 50-80 less then when I first watched btc-e wake up 12hrs ago.



1726. Post 7044713 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 30, 2014, 10:02:38 PM
Steady now Bitcoin, Steady.

$638 is where I think it will run into trouble.

a) Top of the envelope.
b) Highest weekly close since March is ~$638.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg360zigWeeklyztgCzbgEza1gWMAzm1g13za2gWMAzm2g52zvzcv

still betting 650$ and retraces towards 600$ ..27 to go.. 50-80 less then when I first watched btc-e wake up 12hrs ago.

Retrace is possible, but i dont think its likely until we're in the 700's

I throw the retrace statement cause they'll keep timing a dump if a period of low volume persists so they can accumulate more from those who are still bearish.



1727. Post 7044895 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: YipYip on May 30, 2014, 10:18:33 PM
Steady now Bitcoin, Steady.

$638 is where I think it will run into trouble.

a) Top of the envelope.
b) Highest weekly close since March is ~$638.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg360zigWeeklyztgCzbgEza1gWMAzm1g13za2gWMAzm2g52zvzcv

still betting 650$ and retraces towards 600$ ..27 to go.. 50-80 less then when I first watched btc-e wake up 12hrs ago.

Retrace is possible, but i dont think its likely until we're in the 700's

AGreed 690 we will run into problems with a retrace to 750-760

Watch the panic buying in 3 days time as SWIFT/TT transfers go into exchanges

 

yeah the 1w macd going to go green maybe as early as June 5th



1728. Post 7049251 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: YogoH on May 31, 2014, 05:18:52 AM
Is it really that hard to arb between BTC-E and Bitstamp?

Fucking Bitstamp or BTC-E should just do it themselves.

think after all the fees.. usually only those with large stashes can make the lucrative moves.. IMO ..

these weekend bull markets are fun Cheesy so Exciting Cheesy

Almost as exciting as the LA vs CHI game was Cheesy



1729. Post 7049361 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.48h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on May 31, 2014, 06:04:01 AM
There is tons of resistance again. I guess there are craploads of people who want their money back from when they bought high in the previous run up.

same ones who'll buy at the top again probably Tongue



1730. Post 7063274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: aminorex on June 01, 2014, 12:44:29 AM
Weekly MACD could turn green ... soon-ish.

my thoughts exactly.. June 5th is still possible no?



1731. Post 7063662 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

The weekends are fun again.. woooooo



1732. Post 7078464 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Adam your generosity is unparallelled', on this diet so no beer Cheesy

I'll gladly make and drink this vodka&water to your health.



This last self off by volume looks like another accumulation play.. trick the market into slow down when there is some larger asks out there they'll start munching Cheesy



1733. Post 7079266 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on June 01, 2014, 08:14:32 PM
Adam your generosity is unparallelled', on this diet so no beer Cheesy

I'll gladly make and drink this vodka&water to your health.



This last self off by volume looks like another accumulation play.. trick the market into slow down when there is some larger asks out there they'll start munching Cheesy


they didn't even wait for Monday to start buying back lool



1734. Post 7081298 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: ChrisML on June 01, 2014, 11:39:53 PM
Huobi is having a fat dump. LMAO

on super low volume..so infact..not really a large dump at all.



1735. Post 7081527 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: ChrisML on June 01, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
Huobi is having a fat dump. LMAO

on super low volume..so infact..not really a large dump at all.

We are below 4000. Thats what I call bearish.

sure, trick others to panic Cheesy think what you wish.

My sig shows I just hodl anyway Cheesy



1736. Post 7082228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on June 02, 2014, 01:20:51 AM
I'm hoping that buying at the bottom of this minor correction makes more sense..

Indeed.

I've got no fiat at Virtex, though. Too bad Bitcoin Decentral is closed on Sundays.
Quote
670 to 675 range was holding as resistance for a while, (*cavirtex numbers and chart*) I'm hoping that it will now become support for the next leg up.

It seems to be holding for now.  It's the 160 coin ask at $693.49 holding things back that concerns me more now.

I can't see it falling too much below current levels.

have you heard that they have a btc atm at snakes and lattes? http://www.snakesandlattes.com/



1737. Post 7083919 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Huobi being interesting okcoin went sub 4k cny and then Huobi jumped from 4010 to like 4020 on the *ask* side and then gravitated upwards.

Hopefully this week has more action before the weekend Cheesy



1738. Post 7095492 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
looks like we are back on track.

more free beer at 800

can I redeem it for a shot vodka.. wait fack it I'll buy some vodka and give shots to friends if they agree to research bitcoin lol

weekday stamp ahead of Huobi again.



1739. Post 7101668 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

Quote from: ChrisML on June 03, 2014, 04:03:31 AM
Watch Huobi fellas. Down or up.. Lead or not to lead.

their morning rush to react to stamp staying above 660



1740. Post 7101765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

with the one 1W starting to look good, and also those bitcoin atm's for the people sitting on the wall will sure put an interesting spin on this bull run.



1741. Post 7101822 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

Quote from: ChrisML on June 03, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Bitstamp 670

It would appear they're having a candle contest Cheesy stamp and huobi



1742. Post 7102159 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

4200 falls for a moment



1743. Post 7117811 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

trolls detracting from rally watching



1744. Post 7119403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

Quote from: shmadz on June 04, 2014, 01:07:07 AM
Undecided

don't worry Adam, bitcoin's just waiting until my next paycheck before taking off...

I hope?

Adam is just displeased he can't give more beer away yet lol



1745. Post 7120116 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

reversing



1746. Post 7122475 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

you can set btcwisdom to universal time or it uses your local time I believe



1747. Post 7140786 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.50h):

Let's leave our personal opinions about each other at the door to the err.. forum. Nothing is gained from character assassination on the internet. Unless you like trolling yourself.

Let's go 11/13 green weekly candles.. would be quite the thing Cheesy



1748. Post 7172765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

I can't wait till someone buys that 655 1k wall



1749. Post 7176266 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on June 06, 2014, 09:40:19 PM
I can't wait till someone buys that 655 1k wall

munch munch



1750. Post 7179067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

Quote from: dnaleor on June 07, 2014, 09:21:00 AM
Seems like we are below support... This is not looking bullish to me. Hopefully just a pause in the rally

edited**refer to original for graph hate the wasted space scrolling**-Davyd05

Sitting just below my 38.6% @ 654 3D fib lvl retracing from the peak of dec to the low of april.

Perhaps a calm weekend with a strong weekday, or sideways as confidence builds at higher price points






1751. Post 7208286 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

Quote from: FNG on June 09, 2014, 05:45:39 AM
Snap-back like a rubberband imminent

on 15-30 min chart look like someone wanted coins and got em

at least on huobi



1752. Post 7221337 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

Patience, that is all !



1753. Post 7227073 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

Quote from: keewee on June 10, 2014, 06:37:31 AM
Some decent buys at Huobi atm.

Sure is!

stamp chasing



1754. Post 7243587 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

the depth was so low.. think they had to make a nice red candle to scare some weaker hands



1755. Post 7243668 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.51h):

The time is nigh Cheesy



1756. Post 7259659 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

why are people so panicky consolidations/retracements usually follow all the steep rises....dumps happen.. People transfer wealth...get out of bitcoin, get in ...



1757. Post 7259719 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

Quote from: Bitcopia on June 11, 2014, 10:01:14 PM
Early signs of other exchanges ignoring and becoming disconnected from stamp as they know that there is irrationality (read: inside trading) going on.

I've been seeing a lot of posts recently claiming that Stamp is going the way of Gox, etc. What is the basis for this claim? Just because the Stamp price is $10 lower than other major exchanges, or is there actually some real evidence to suggest that there's corruption or other problems going on at Stamp?

It's FUD. Pantera / Fortress has $10MM invested in Bitstamp. Pantera has a hedge fund with almost $100MM invested in BTC between 45 individuals. They aren't going to allow Bitstamp to ruin that. CALM DOWN.

http://theblogchain.com/news/pantera-bitcoin-bitstamp/

they show their btc reserves last month..I doubt there is anything to worry about.



1758. Post 7259812 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on June 11, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
just switched to btce from stamp.

Trust the unknown exchange instead of the one backed by a well known venture firm with more than $100MM invested in BTC and Bitstamp. Good choice.  Roll Eyes
With MtGox we had Roger Ver the bitcoin gazillionaire vouching for his friend Karpeles right before the fall...


vouching is worth shit if you haven't seen btc reserves... showing your btc reserves is much different, as stamp did. Shit hit the fan when gox's insider info got published by twobitidiot... mind you the work also looked like it had be done by a high-school student.



1759. Post 7259951 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

man people with limit orders.. and or fiat on exchange must be getting itchy... think 600 is the bottom of this retracement, if it could get there.



1760. Post 7260009 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

Quote from: dnaleor on June 11, 2014, 10:17:25 PM
just switched to btce from stamp.

and you trust those anonymous russians operating from bulagria more than known people?
 Roll Eyes

The FUD runs strong in the fearful bloodstream. The fact a price divergence has caused them to get so ancy shows they haven't vetted the exchanges they chose. Nor are willing to do so with the next choice...I have some alts on btc-e not knocking them, stamp was my first choice when thinking of not nationally based exchanges...Canada has two great choices IMO. VoS and CaVirtEx



1761. Post 7279580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.52h):

Tera's TA yesterday...was a gold mine Cheesy.

Do we expect this to be a really well time long squeeze?

With a resumption of lower 600s over the weekend?

My guess yes...but let see how many people wanna dump.



1762. Post 7330228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

back from the cottage with no internet access, and someone goes and buys a big lot to give me a welcome home spike.

I see Jorge's methodology hasn't changed. This time it seems as if he speculates more about the motives of bitcoin trusts and exchanges, more so than we speculate on the price.

IMO in relation to the USMS Auction, we see a dip for those wish to try and front run what they sheepishly believe will happen, some sort of super under priced sale of btc in the auction and then dumping.






1763. Post 7331483 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

@Jorge If it was in reaction to the news piece linked...you went above and beyond to imagine a scenario where SM bought all the coins at 15% under market.. and somehow included an idea that SM didn't have coins that they would owe to SM shareholders.

From what I've seen its more or less likely that they will partner up with other people looking to buy large sums of bitcoins, in the article they mention https://twitter.com/BitcoinTrust,



1764. Post 7395783 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):

Huobi feeling a little more bullish ?



1765. Post 7412209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):

Quote from: manfred on June 20, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
so if the SR coins don't touch the exchanges, they won't affect the price? or if the selling price is made public in the news, will that become new selling price?
If it does not touch the exchanges, it won't have any more influence on the price than your typical 'x company accepts bitcoin' news story.
That kind of sale will influence the price, not touching any exchange does not matter.

in the negative way? Perhaps the price of sale will give us a bit of a demand indicator.



1766. Post 7446530 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 22, 2014, 06:39:43 AM
The price is so inestable, it´s danger to play now.

Yup. Lots of obvious short stop losses just got squeezed on Bitfinex, probably on Huobi as well. Could be another classic Bitcoin Fuck You Rally. Wouldn't be surprised if it was as according to all the indicators, a break out should just not be happening. I can't speak for Huobi where the break out was initiated, but on Bitfinex, the lionshare of the buying power of the break out was squeezed short trades and even then Bitfinex conspired to rob everyone blind by front running all the Ask orders required to cover stop loss orders above $600, and then selling them to stop loss orders at $608.

These people are fucking criminals and need locked up.

You sure do whine a lot. Did you get burned at BFX and now think its all their fault?

Looking at the bitfinex data very few shorts have actually been closed. Not sure how often it is updates though on http://www.bfxdata.com/bitfinexLiquidityBTC.php

I think it is someone just buying some coins while we are down here.

Just 24 hours ago he and the other usual trolls where crying like crazy because i felt the price was being kept down.
I mentioned how these losers are the first to cry about manipulation when the price goes up 10 bucks.
Well, there you go.
They're not even trying to hide their stupidity. Unbelievable.

haters gonna hate.

On another note.. drank some beer, price went up...please do your part and drink lol



1767. Post 7465994 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.54h):

All I know is buying more back in the 330's looks so good right now Cheesy



1768. Post 7502736 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

We just continuing to see a front run on the fear of the to be Auctioned coins, or the bitcoinverse just doing its thang.



1769. Post 7516707 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 25, 2014, 09:52:36 PM
seriously puzzled by the selling pressure, oh well more for me.

I know it's hard to believe some people want to let their bitcoins go, but it happens. I mean the 51% business, and the auction are enough for some selling. It feels similar to the front run on China fud, which was for the most part just a game of whack a mole with deposit method and chains.

Just do your part and drink a 24 of beer.



1770. Post 7517448 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

Quote from: EuroTrash on June 25, 2014, 10:52:22 PM
In fairness the dumping at Huobi since yesterday has been more regular compared to the dumping at Stamp.
TERA might have a point about us underestimating the importance of Chinese markets.

People just stopped believing the volume and importance here for no reason other then being sick of PBoC Fud bombs IMO

Some may claim to the volume being faked etc. but I've always assumed China's bulls still exist, they're just waiting for the right time to strike.



1771. Post 7521606 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

@ Windjc

I think you need to check on  your testicles might be under producing horomones, going all snap crazy bat shit on Tera.



1772. Post 7522511 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

Quote from: windjc on June 26, 2014, 05:26:30 AM
@ Windjc

I think you need to check on  your testicles might be under producing horomones, going all snap crazy bat shit on Tera.

You mean over producing? That would make a little more sense. Maybe so. I'll check for you and report back. Wink

naw brethren low t = irritability and crotchety old man syndrome Tongue



1773. Post 7535864 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

Funny after all this reading until I read the Bitstamp piece by Forbes. I didn't know when the coin auction was going to take place lol.

I kind of agree with the idea of a bulltrap, psychopaths aren't the ones feeling pressures its uninformed investors. Logically speaking fearing a below market rate sales at the auction is sound, until we remember these are bitcoins. Not cars, houses and jewelery reprocessed from crime lords.

I find it odd that they want to sell them, I think it is more or less them being stuck in the belief that Bitcoin can't destroy the glass house that is Fiat currencies.  

What would a million U.S dollars fetch at a U.S Marshall auction, silly question would they even sell gold bouillon if it was reprocessed or just hold on to it? The only reason I think BMR is achievable is the sheer size of coins being sold.



1774. Post 7541154 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

Quote from: Timmmaahh on June 27, 2014, 06:28:56 AM
Look at stamps flat orderbook...........



watch huobi much more interesting



1775. Post 7554944 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.55h):

These comments do not align with the charts. Back to 600 eh.. if we can get a 50 dollar panic rally then I can still be right on the last pool ishhhhh



1776. Post 7593487 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Quote from: podyx on June 30, 2014, 05:51:55 AM
LOL TO THE MOON (STAMP)

I knew if I stayed up late enough tonight I'd see some fireworks for free Cheesy



1777. Post 7594067 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Wonder what happens upon USMS winner notification..since some losers might have to buy in via exchanges Cheesy



1778. Post 7595848 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 30, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
This is the point where the train slows down and now everyone is afraid of a crash. So obviously they start selling and create a crash.

man the real jump will be upon proof of a losing bid being shared.



1779. Post 7614227 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

engines revving at bit



1780. Post 7614501 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

so it begins



1781. Post 7633787 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Wonder if the lag currently is due to the refunds being processed then wired off to the exchanges.



1782. Post 7649020 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

I think to some extent a panic sell is the only way to pick up a large amount of coins as there aren't too many walls.



1783. Post 7661774 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

took me three weeks after the silkroad 1.0 fell, to get my fiat in order and buy bitcoin off of localbitcoins. From that point I vetted exchanges then deposited and bought bitcoins Cheesy prolly took another 3 weeks after my local bitcoin buy.



1784. Post 7662175 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: kehtolo on July 03, 2014, 06:40:53 PM
took me three weeks after the silkroad 1.0 fell, to get my fiat in order and buy bitcoin off of localbitcoins. From that point I vetted exchanges then deposited and bought bitcoins Cheesy prolly took another 3 weeks after my local bitcoin buy.

Ouch.. so between 3rd week last Nov til middle of last Dec?

close I just checked.. I only waited till Oct 15th @ 143.50 cad, near 300 was the next purchase. My avg. buy in is like 540 but yeah...during a bubble all in is worth it. Dollar cost averaging on the drops after the bubble pop'd due to Chinese fud then became the way to invest IMO.

All in time has been reached according to Rpiella, I tend to agree. We're just waiting on the next set of new joiners...who've finally comprehended the amazing features of bitcoin and are not satisfied with the current methods of banking or how online transactions take place.



1785. Post 7670781 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

market just keeps coiling about. Someone is offloading at 650. Could just be commerce taking place with people exiting at the local top and or profit taking.



1786. Post 7671782 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

damn it ... I was predicting a drop to 625, with the spring to the next resistance level 749 how fast I don't know



1787. Post 7676789 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

http://www.eba.europa.eu/documents/10180/657547/EBA-Op-2014-08+Opinion+on+Virtual+Currencies.pdf reddit fud Wink

however seems like a good read on what the EBA thinks of Bitcoin



1788. Post 7683398 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on July 05, 2014, 04:32:01 AM
Looks like price needs to come down under $610 before it goes to 700

Uh why?

For me it was 620ish...mainly to do with the ebb flow of the market. It would appear that people are trying to accumulate more so than dump.

I think we'll see weekend buyers from those who want to beat the trend now that 620 ish has held well enough. However I've been bull sided as of late.



1789. Post 7695089 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cYMCLz5PQVw

We can play this way when we get back to space.



1790. Post 7695699 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Little pick up in the buying, but nothing out of the ordinary as of late.



1791. Post 7695798 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: shmadz on July 06, 2014, 01:03:18 AM
Little pick up in the buying, but nothing out of the ordinary as of late.

I'm just glad to see a little glimmer of volatility return.

Though it looks like 620-640 range for the next little while... if we break outside that range then it might get interesting.

Lol, spread is like 10 dollars right now, is like watching a fight between red and green candles  Grin

I am not all that surprised...we just saw 30k coins go at auction to one buyer.. it left many stunned, I believe. If they're looking for no slippage avenues to get coins that was quite a missed opportunity. I feel as we're so bullish we're not seeing much upwards pressure unless we get some bigger walls.

You can imagine since I think this next push will take us to 750 ish whenever it pushes through



1792. Post 7696082 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: windjc on July 06, 2014, 01:34:47 AM
Looks like that 635 wall is finally gone. Next rest stop at 640?

Don't jinx it Cheesy

We are going to challenge the 680 resistance this week.

750 imo

however... why not test it tomorrow Cheesy  I hope whomever was trying to sneak in a weekend buy shows up overnight.



1793. Post 7697524 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: shmadz on July 06, 2014, 04:35:39 AM
It looks to me like someone wants to buy at or near 620

might even be the same guy who was selling at 635 you never know

he might have good margins.

the best they achieved via panic was the 616 drop on stamp? they're going to give up soon when we least expect it D:



1794. Post 7729900 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

I really wonder what this week will bring.. sideways would be interesting :d



1795. Post 7730510 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

sum dumping on stamp? some mild so far dumping lol



1796. Post 7746589 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

China lead us in to higher volume please, we miss your waves of buying.



1797. Post 7764018 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

I feel rather calm, not so much like I feel the train needs to come...think the newbies are figuring out how and where to buy bitcoin.



1798. Post 7765872 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

I mean if we go really dump heavy, it's just more incentive for those who have faith to buy.



1799. Post 7778028 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: minerpumpkin on July 10, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Well at least that was some kind of quick recovery. I'd have thought that we might've been in for another drop back into the 500s. The asks at 620 and 625 are strong, though. I wonder whether they're real, but I guess they are. The current volume won't be able to break that resistance...

I've been saying this since the earlier retest, we're in a lul of no volume dumping is easier at starting panic atm. We see someone buy up coins in a large bunch following most of these plays. Could just be accumulation plays prior to them reading a bubble forming opportunity.



1800. Post 7796816 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

It's never boring.



1801. Post 7796852 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: iram3130 on July 11, 2014, 11:16:34 PM
It's never boring.

lol, It's many times boring when market don't move at all.

that doesn't bore me. keeps me alert to the change of pace.



1802. Post 7831022 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: seleme on July 14, 2014, 03:13:44 AM
Honestly, this doesn't look good. Too much resistance in 600s.

for swing traders.



1803. Post 7831667 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 14, 2014, 04:14:36 AM
I'd like to buy a vowel.

HO_L
MO__E__UCK__S

Hmmm....

I got this one...

HO_L
    a
    e
    i
    o
    u

..if only D we're a vowel..then you could've save it with HODL MOTHERFUCKERS



1804. Post 7831869 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: keithers on July 14, 2014, 04:28:48 AM
Nice and green on the 1 month and 3 month charts, just a little to go to get back into the green on the 1 week chart

1w still green on stamp D:


however, the continuing low volume makes you wonder if people are exploring OTE buying to hide the markets bullish existence.



1805. Post 7835192 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

Quote from: magicmexican on July 14, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
Looks shaky, any kind of fud (especially from china) would easily send the price below 600

anywhere sub 540 cad I'll have no choice but to buy or everytime I look in the mirror I'll see a clown as my reflection. Sadly didn't buy when we we're down in the 330s Sad bigger btc holding targets could've helped ....oh well.



1806. Post 7851108 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

It is summer, people do vacation a lot, maybe less fiat that they can spend on btc, while they can spend that dirty fiat on drinks at the pool bar. Before we know it will be fall, and who knows what territory we'll be in.



1807. Post 7866684 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

down or up ... bitcoin is still amazing Cheesy



1808. Post 7883261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on July 16, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
I don't believe there are that many above 70.
I don't believe there are so few under 18 Smiley

don't know many 18 years old with money to invest...



1809. Post 7883390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: kireinaha on July 16, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
I don't believe there are that many above 70.
I don't believe there are so few under 18 Smiley

don't know many 18 years old with money to invest...

Nor the attention span to stick around during these prolonged periods of sideways movement. The 70+ category, I call bullshit on.

my grandfather is 92 and he was willing to invest some money.



1810. Post 7883434 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on July 16, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
I don't believe there are that many above 70.
I don't believe there are so few under 18 Smiley

don't know many 18 years old with money to invest...

Lots of warcraft kiddies turned their uber graphics cards to mining and made a lot of coins, there where gangs of the feckers kicking the price around in the btc-e trollbox when it was in the $10-$15 range. Wouldn't be at all surprised if a few of the whales we see today have barely passed puberty. Wouldn't question their trading skills either, I doubt anyone who's bargained with kids in MMO's would, some of the shrewd feckers would put any used car salesman to shame.

warcraft isn't gpu intensive, it required a quality cpu but the idea is sound.



1811. Post 7888984 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

610 still holding.. pretty interesting



1812. Post 7915162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

I mean we're assuming everyone has fiat waiting on exchange to fire on the announcements of merchant acceptance, which I don't as I've met my hodling goals. My second assumption is that the new bubble will be majorly made of up those who owned no bitcoins.

I was re awoken to the woe of not getting my miner online in 2010-2011 when the silkroad bust came through, after some forum reading I bought coins over a miner and have been happy since.



1813. Post 7915623 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: Sandia on July 18, 2014, 10:05:09 PM
I mean we're assuming everyone has fiat waiting on exchange to fire on the announcements of merchant acceptance, which I don't as I've met my hodling goals. My second assumption is that the new bubble will be majorly made of up those who owned no bitcoins.


There are a lot of traders sitting on fiat, waiting for a clear direction in the market.  If we broke $680, most would buy back in.  Otherwise, agreed, we need a lot of new money to get moving.

The CEX.io exchange is also good news.  They will need to keep coins as a reserve, not dump them all on the other exchanges.

not so sure, maybe new traders, I would've been back in at 330-400 if I had fiat in my account.

However along the manipulation lines...I think it's more of people waiting for the herd...no1 is going crazy now we have the dumper making sure of that but if we had the buyers of November we'd have cleaned this mystery dumper out.

I consider dell news worthy of rounding up new joiners by next week. Takes a bit for the info to be believe and digested. Then signing up at an exchange or heading to a bitcoin atm, just takes time.



1814. Post 7947240 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

coil I say, coil.. and spring



1815. Post 7947447 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on July 21, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
Looks like we're gonna drop under 620 again. Crazy  Undecided

why is the trend of mid summer, crazy?

patience, perhaps a vacation Cheesy



1816. Post 7947725 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on July 21, 2014, 06:11:52 AM
Looks like we're gonna drop under 620 again. Crazy  Undecided

why is the trend of mid summer, crazy?

patience, perhaps a vacation Cheesy

But everybody told me we we're going to the moon mid summer. Now it's suddenly normal to go down instead?
I think someone needs to draw some lines quick to clear this up.

We're all just making guesses ...some lines couldn't hurt. However for me it's all just patience this time around.

I was over zealous in the last bubble. I should've sold @ 1000-800 but it was my first couple of months owning bitcoin and I love my bitcoins so much so that dirty fiat profits couldn't lure me...even though I could've re invested them into more bitcoins I know I know I was a noob.



1817. Post 7957181 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.59h):

1k bought during the 11am hr candle...and it didn't move the chart the way it did the last time we had a 1k buy hr candle.

I still think whales are accumulating



1818. Post 7966337 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

seeing a lot of bitcoin articles on reddit.. while not in the bitcoin subreddit.



1819. Post 7966602 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/491464933725708288 maybe some buying from Europe this week



1820. Post 7966655 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Quote from: anujjain on July 22, 2014, 10:15:24 AM
https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/491464933725708288 maybe some buying from Europe this week

Good news, but it will not effect much. reducing fee doesn't means people will just go and buy.

we shall see, fees suck D:



1821. Post 7981305 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

well said Cheesy

Bitchick is respectful, hurts me to see people shaming her for her beliefs.




1822. Post 8006285 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Dump harderrrrrr pleaseeeeeeeeee it will expedite imo this lul in the market and my fiat cannons have no option but to fire if we break under 550 again ..



1823. Post 8006994 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Quote from: keithers on July 24, 2014, 05:32:41 PM
Dump harderrrrrr pleaseeeeeeeeee it will expedite imo this lul in the market and my fiat cannons have no option but to fire if we break under 550 again ..

I never get this logic.
I assume you believe we will be going up or otherwise you wouldn't want to buy. Why do you care about 50 bucks then? The way things look i'd say it's a rather small chance we go to 550 again. Why would you take that risk?

I agree here, unless you 550 is your dollar cost average and you are adamant about only buying below there...you may as well just buy today since it is lower than it has been for awhile...

Bingo.. 550 zone approaches my average buy in price...I would buy at this current price if I had more Disc Income, however I personally also believe the dip would be quick and fast like a needle if it did drop to that range.

I mean if pigs are being slaughtered why shouldn't I pick up some bacon?



1824. Post 8009551 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

rebound in progress? or ignition.. we shall see Cheesy



1825. Post 8010570 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

my guess, is these plays are confirming bear whale manipulation. Trying to create panic out of thin air since we've been off the react to China tip for a while now.

Again I feel things like Coinsetter, Circle going live will bring more buyers who just weren't ready to buy, yet! And Barry going full-time exchange operator bodes well for the competitive atmosphere surrounding the race for an industry standard bitcoin exchange.



1826. Post 8014153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Ecuador banned bitcoin we're dooomed!  Tongue



1827. Post 8024612 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

I wish I knew for certainty what kept the markets at any level.

I've always noticed good news related to acceptance by retailers to be less of instantaneous effect. And Jorge has reminded me that  btc > x company > coinbase/bitpay >x company usd holdings. Now I can't say all companies are not holding and straight liquidate the coins but it would lead to a bit more selling on the markets. We can only hope that when people begin to spend their coins that they re-buy.

It is summer, a time where spending money and vacationing take place a lot more often for the average Joe... especially in North America's Northern Climates, and none of these things are really depressing the market. We're still above half the ATH of our last bubble, which is created IMO by the rush of people to buy coins before some one else bought them...literally such an influx my exchange had a back long for months after I had just gotten verified (PHEW).

Perhaps the summer haze will lift people will be thinking about the future and the coming cold months, whatever it may be...a catalyst for bitcoin investment will takeover and create a wave of new buyers. The American based bitcoin exchanges could be a good example of it, specifically the ideas Aminorex discussed with the COIN launch... IRA based investments in to BITCOIN for I think will be huge.



1828. Post 8030566 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on July 26, 2014, 04:37:22 AM
We're lucky we are only down as much as we are considering the number of coins that flew off the board. I don't see what the end game could be of selling off a few thousand coins -- not really much to gain by doing that if you think the market is going up and it's not like the sell wall game where you are just buying up coins on the cheap in front of the wall. Spooky s---.

slow consolidation period is fine with me.



1829. Post 8031318 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Quote from: kireinaha on July 26, 2014, 06:11:36 AM
Starting to look like 2014 will be the worst year for bitcoin ever...

Walls are getting pulled
from 2.5k coins to 590 to 200 coins...

Even if we stay at current levels for the rest of the year, it wouldn't be the worst year ever

bitcoin has never concluded a 12 month period at a lower price. if we reach Novemeber and are still at this price level, even I'm giving up on it. because it would be clear at that point that it's over: world changing innovations don't just stall for a year for no clear reason.

All I've got to say is lol



1830. Post 8031653 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

maybe the chinese have to swap cny to usd to use the international side of the other exchanges launching in China Cheesy



1831. Post 8043186 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

hello 600 Cheesy such a familiar face



1832. Post 8053913 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

lol till the page post dump comes in to effect.

Patience ..Tera once spoke of a slow grinding consolidation period.. this shall fit her vision from the past.



1833. Post 8054081 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

In relation to what Adam said, we're not seeing the consistent dumps. We see em hit 590 or below 600 and trigger the buy orders people have, and we've been doing this for weeks. I don't think the dumps are meant to create crashes as much as bigger walls from fearful pigs.



1834. Post 8057555 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

life is nothing without a good poll



1835. Post 8059495 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: twiifm on July 28, 2014, 02:06:48 AM

hes saying, realize you are not a god and there for cannot predict price movement, so dont try, just have a plan should it go lower.

A plan is having a stop loss.   Not keep buying as the price falls.   Thats the worse advice to give someone.  

uh this is bitcoin Cheesy

588 eh Cheesy



1836. Post 8060424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: cbeast on July 28, 2014, 03:27:00 AM
I've been expecting this, but not so soon. I just hope the bounce can wait until the end of August.

money freed up by then. I've been lazy to put the excess fiat to the exchange so I can set order for a true panic sell if they occur..



1837. Post 8060575 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: sidhujag on July 28, 2014, 03:40:23 AM
looks like I was right about the wedge breaking into a bear. So I think we are headed to $350 to $400... cya there

i can't wait for that if its true, buyers delight.



1838. Post 8061699 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on July 28, 2014, 05:26:30 AM
looks like I was right about the wedge breaking into a bear. So I think we are headed to $350 to $400... cya there

i can't wait for that if its true, buyers delight.

Oh stop it man. You've had 5 years. There is absolutely nothing good about going down again. It shows that Bitcoin is failing. We simply shouldn't go down again anymore.

You 100:1 on Finex, Shroomy? Cheer up, mate.

nothing cheers Shroomy up but price going up.

I am not frightened by the price going down...I think it has no relevance on how well bitcoin works which is why I have faith in it.



1839. Post 8062100 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: mooncake on July 28, 2014, 06:05:25 AM
Let's go to 7778, people!
whats happens when the post dumps come through



1840. Post 8075225 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Price watching becomes uninteresting, we have some action and then everyone forgets they're we're demanding some sort of price action.


Looks like the accumulation station is eating up more coins.. or turning profits on coins they sell and buy back at bottoms.. rinse and repeat till you get bear trapped.



1841. Post 8078155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: InstantBitcoin on July 29, 2014, 02:08:15 AM
other threads still think we are heading down, hahaha we are one step ahead!

IF IT TOUCHES 550 BUYING VOLUME WILL SOARRRRR+  Cool

I just don't think they have enough coins to dump. I feel that they dump coins to buy up more at a cheaper price after panic ensues. Until they get burned by not buying back in at a low of a dump day they might just keep turning a profit.



1842. Post 8094094 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on July 30, 2014, 01:31:43 AM
550 is a pipe dream

monkeys across the globe are waking at the thought

its not going to happen people....

I agree for the most part, but 20 bucks from 550 so I would imagine if someone finds some more coins to dump from a weak hand anything is possible.


I thought our bought was 330 last time it happened.. based on some 1d fibs from the beginning of the fall rally and peak of it. 330 seems like a place of massive support, and now my bets would be of 500 bottom, but 550 is likely to hold without some big paper wallet pockets.



1843. Post 8106781 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

 I love how the people I ignore make up the majority of the panic posting during these selling periods.

Just walls of currently ignored, however life still seems good... 550 seemingly more possible, yet these dumps have been spaced out far enough that each drop isn't as dramatic.. still feel its accumulation plays Cheesy ( as long as the whale can make money and increase holdings why would he/she or they stop.)



1844. Post 8107228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: inca on July 30, 2014, 07:44:26 PM
Nobody cares about merchant adoption anymore. That's all priced in. The general public is now thinking, "so why exactly do I need to buy bitcoin?" These are the same people who don't mind that the NSA is spying on them, because "as long as you're not doing anything bad you have nothing to worry about."

They've been watching the price tank all year, so there's no compelling reason for them to invest. Now, all we have is "old money" trading hands. Things are looking bad, guys.

Agreed.
Unlike previous years the public doesn't want to invest anymore because they think Bitcoin will go up.
All they see is previous buyers losing money.

What we have here is:
No new buyers.
No amount of good news will make the price go up.
Any slightly bad news will cause a crash.
No increased user adoption.
Lots of people getting out.

This was gonna be the year of Bitcoin. It simply failed.
It won't magically go up again. There is no reason why it would.



I really hope you pair of tits don't convince any honest people into selling here with your book talking!

First rule of the wall observer thread, don't sell or buy based off anything one thing posted here.

I think 500 is the bottom of this play and 550 is the heavy support zone...if we can get to testing that dumpers that'd be great because I hate how you can buy back coins after all these dumps and still end up with profits and coins or more coins Sad



1845. Post 8107865 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.01h):

Quote from: Sandia on July 30, 2014, 08:30:42 PM
I would drop a huge short now, if there wasn't that support wall at $560.
I can't tell if it is real or not.

was moved from 570 - 575 a day or so ago...could be real or panic bait.

seems destined for 550 by Sunday ..if its doesn't reverse trends



1846. Post 8111123 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Best part is we chased Tera away, and I swear she was calling for this before she left. Shout out to TERA



1847. Post 8111196 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: wiak2 on July 31, 2014, 12:38:25 AM
This feels like July of last year actually when we bottomed out around $63 or so.  Everyone calling the end of Bitcoin, then we steadily rose then blew up in the fall.

there are a lot of pure speculators, in it for the quick money.. these times if played right make them the quickest dollars. not everyone is as greedy or ballsy whichever way you wanna see it.



1848. Post 8113310 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

I'll hold my tongue still, I feel 500 bottom or breaking 550 would be towards the final dumping.. and would trigger some really strong support. However this is very uninformed speculation on my part lol.. if you could call it that. I can believe 555 holding for us after some good volume in to the weekend I hope Cheesy



1849. Post 8113692 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

hump day was dump day? I am so interested in how the weekend will playout.

Also just plain ol' volume for some recovery signs Cheesy



1850. Post 8114168 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: Wary on July 31, 2014, 05:35:31 AM
1W MACD is red. Everyone here should know what happens next.

BUY BUY BUY!!!

Does.. does it go purple? Do Satan's spawn come out of the ground and eat everyone who owns a satoshi? I dont understand!

The 1W MACD crossed back and forth right before the last couple of bubbles. Final capitulation.
Which chart are you looking at? At mine (bitcoinwisdom, bitstamp), out of 4 last bubbles it happened only once, before April's one.

goes red late sept  early oct in 2013



1851. Post 8115290 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

we just have to believe in the bullfinex way



1852. Post 8116945 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

watching infomercials ... err certain professionals are stating 5k/oz gold in the next stock market crash..




1853. Post 8117439 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: dreamspark on July 31, 2014, 10:46:53 AM
Best part is we chased Tera away, and I swear she was calling for this before she left. Shout out to TERA
Lol, shes always calling for going down but whenever we go up she just happened to change positions at the pivotal moment. I dont see people congratulating the perma bulls when we go up !  Cheesy

I remember her mentioning it still after we shot up from 330, that she thought that recovery was to quick to be the lead off to the moon. However perma bulls get rewarded by having stashes lol



1854. Post 8126212 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

bulls expecting the rush, I expect that means no bull run soon.

Maybe like 3-4 hrs in to China night trading on Saturday but that's just cause I feel that a good out of left field call.



1855. Post 8126482 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 31, 2014, 10:05:13 PM
Argentina defaults.

Ultimately that kind of news should be bullish for bitcoin; however, the way the bitcoin markets respond to news does NOT always seem to make logical sense...

To be fair, Argentina is a basket case anyway, has been for decades and will continue to be so until and unless they dump the Marxist BS.

OT Funny thing is, they will sell it to the argentinnian people as "evil capitalism" that is guilty for that mess and not their bullshit system as a strange mixture of socialsm and nationalism./OT


IMI:   It is possible that you may on to something.... but what the fuck is "OT"?  

Off topic :?

Man I like the bullish ness and higher volume on finex and huobi



1856. Post 8132244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

do we hit 600 before Saturday?



1857. Post 8133169 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

what will North America do upon waking to the retrace? make it a reversal?



1858. Post 8143340 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

Quote from: iram3130 on August 01, 2014, 10:07:51 AM
what will North America do upon waking to the retrace? make it a reversal?

I don't think reversal will be easy now after good upside movement, may be they will hold or push the price to upwards.

That is what I meant, the upward play was the retrace of the recent dumping,  and I mean reversal as a continuation of the buying to confirm the bear trap.



1859. Post 8159902 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.02h):

 little dumping going on



1860. Post 8203697 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Purchased a Trezor today... paying for something was never so easy.



1861. Post 8203866 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: podyx on August 05, 2014, 09:22:52 PM
Purchased a Trezor today... paying for something was never so easy.

Trezor is safe? And how many days it took to deliver?

I was thinking of purschashing a new laptop, download bitcoin-qt on it(is a password like 45LaZywindow55 a safe password?), put a couple backups on USBs and put it offline till I need the money again. Not sure how safe this is though?

I have faith in them so far, order is probably going to be processed tomorrow as I got around to placing the order pretty late. Will update on time of delivery to Canada.

It's just cheaper then a laptop, I could pay in bitcoin ( only option ) and I believe it will provide the protection I seek.



1862. Post 8203970 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: podyx on August 05, 2014, 09:37:21 PM
Purchased a Trezor today... paying for something was never so easy.

Trezor is safe? And how many days it took to deliver?

I was thinking of purschashing a new laptop, download bitcoin-qt on it(is a password like 45LaZywindow55 a safe password?), put a couple backups on USBs and put it offline till I need the money again. Not sure how safe this is though?


Just use paper. bitaddress.org

I have no printer

I use bitaddress.org for my initial investment in bitcoin but I wrote the private keys by hand and might have miswrote on any of them. Also I rather diversify the holdings a bit so i don't have everything at one place

How safe is it to store like I said though with bitcoin-qt?? Should be pretty safe no? I actually already bought a laptop but it's useless and I will send it back or throw it in the fucking ground unless I won't use it for bitcoin storage

I like the laptop idea fine, I was just to lazy to setup ubuntu ..as I don't entirely trust windows. However the coins have been stored safely on bitcoinqt with a nice long password. Just don't wanna push my luck if I can store them offline in a sense. I believe you make a paper backup of the trezor as well



1863. Post 8204427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cpew8/game_changer_bitcoin_research_at_the_federal/ anyone read and or believe this?



1864. Post 8204607 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Yeah, but you can never doubt how far people will bullshit...I remain subscribed to the its too good to be true, FED research that see bitcoin disrupting the global currency system lol in 5-10 years lol

I'd personally love for this to be true...and it seems to be well formed.



1865. Post 8204932 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/434342/stephane-portha-is-lying-about-mark-karpeles

a dump of Karpeles doc's on 4chan?

docs in french



1866. Post 8209027 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Another day goes by and the accumulation rolls on.



1867. Post 8226222 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

will we see cheap miners sold from Russia.. or just Russians being Russian as they dont give a fuck about jail time.



1868. Post 8227817 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

boo slippage



1869. Post 8239229 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

another day bites the dust.  and all seems well and stable enough... go  and prove me wrong whales



1870. Post 8243098 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

So is it quiet enough for a puncture through to 0% territory...aka 600

derpinheimer your post gives a good perspective on why we don't see 30k walls and why the walls of today remain significant



1871. Post 8243573 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 08, 2014, 06:06:23 AM
So is it quiet enough for a puncture through to 0% territory...aka 600

derpinheimer your post gives a good perspective on why we don't see 30k walls and why the walls of today remain significant


You mean that BTC prices may rise possibly to "never" "never" land?  

That is the $600+ arena....  


OMG!!!!    Cheesy

If China is neverneverland..which oddly seems like a quirky nickname for em...then yes. We're going to NeverNeverLand ( as in they pushed passed 600 already lol )



1872. Post 8244002 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

I wouldn't be surprised if it took something major ie etfs going live to public investors. Tons of people don't have a clue what bitcoin really is...its more of buzzword, I am suggesting to any of my friends who want to invest that they truly understand what it is. Read the whitepaper read about the wallets etc.



1873. Post 8245672 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

I dunno but generally when people say 0% or 100% its to be definite. Now your saying there is still a chance for 1 or 1,000,000 or 600... hehe not just 0% percent.



1874. Post 8246082 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

stamp dump at 10:03 utc huobi following up



1875. Post 8255880 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

The intent is to withdraw 4150 BTC from our exodus address within the next 48 hours. We reserve the right to withdraw up to 850 BTC more if needed before the end of the 42 day duration of the sale, but at this point it is likely that the remainder of the BTC in the address will remain unused until the sale ends. Of this amount, 2650 BTC will be distributed to pay for loans for prior expenses. Individuals who have contributed loans to the project will receive repayment in BTC directly; “we” will not be selling any portion of this 2650 BTC on exchanges ourselves, although individuals may choose to independently convert the BTC that they receive into fiat after the fact. Individuals also have the choice of taking the repayment in ether; in those cases, we will simply not send the BTC, and once all repayments have been processed we will publish all of the additional ETH that has been sold in this way (note that this is equivalent to sending individuals their BTC and letting the recipients send it right back into the exodus). The remaining 1500 BTC will be sent to a wallet controlled by ĐΞV, our development arm, and will be used to establish our sites in Berlin and Amsterdam and begin hiring developers; some of this amount may be converted into EUR, GBP or CHF (eg. to pay for rent), and the remainder will be held as BTC.



1876. Post 8256412 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: MoreFun on August 08, 2014, 10:36:51 PM
Ethereum might become the biggest BTC rubbish dump next to MtGox. This will be fun to watch.

25k BTC = $15M

So investors think that their stock will outperform Bitcoin and that stock also has similar crash possibility. Acctually this investment is at least 5 - 10 times more risky than Bitcoin with same rewards.

Neo & Bee anyone?  Wink

Na this time we have to many faces and interviews with people to have them do a plausible Neobee escapade
Although if it becomes another wheres Mark case that would be amusing


Thats nothing more than altcoin with all the lalalala... they come up with in a bit different story. IPO is pump and dump situation, yea you can make 10x in 1 month, but every shitcoin that went this way came back to the floor sooner or later. So just gambling, not save investition comparing to at least BTC (no saying BTC is safe). For coding and servers you don't need $15M, just a crowd of sheep to believe it. This should be project for VC not BTC small sheeps.

At the end it doesn't matter what way investors will lose money - run from owners, business crash or whatever...

In the end we have bitcoin already, we can change and upgrade as a group...so why make an entirely different system...my rationale agrees that with the pump and dump play.



1877. Post 8261434 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: windjc on August 09, 2014, 08:27:33 AM
Minor technicality:  I would NOT call 3,600 BTC daily as almost 4k BTC daily. 

I am inclined to think that the overwhelming majority of mined coins move exactly once, at this point.  I should check.  If I am right it is indicative of price suppression on the exchanges to get good marks for buying virgin coin on contract.  Which in turn is indicative of a massive bubble imminent.  But I haven't checked yet.



hey, cool! that would indeed be a good indication of the hypothesis (miners sell directly) being correct!

do you have the means to check this? If so I would like to kindly ask you to do so.


Ive mentioned it a couple of times on the forum already today, but I have it through very good sources that the majority of large miner coins that are being sold are being sold off exchange for a point or two premium by hedge funds.

A large miner recently confirmed that he had had several calls put into him by hedge funds looking to buy every coin he had. If they are tracking him down, their tracking others down as well. I think this is one of the reason selling has practically dried up relative to what it used to be. Big money is desperate not to have the price run up.

i wouldn't put it past them to get a jump on the fall, by accumulating all summer and if the hording phase and or bull run comes on the profit taking shall be glorious.



1878. Post 8261528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: rpietila on August 09, 2014, 09:10:33 AM
I hope it goes to 470 to give a gleaning point.

490 usd is my avg buy in.. 470 means I have to exhaust fiat cannons. However I can't see that happening.. it would be a really organized manipulation at this point.. the market seems really stuck in this band.



1879. Post 8272949 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

The last 10 or so pages I've read have been full of good discussion...must mean the train is pulling out of the station LOOL...

I do subscribe to the nobody knows theory as well, and we can only hope to notice signs on the wall and make the right choices. I try not to be caught up in greed because though I would like to be wealthy I'm more interested in bitcoin opening the world up to decentralization and how it could possible save us from the corruption that grips us globally. 



1880. Post 8275264 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

China with some decent volume growing, lets go overnight fireworks Cheesy



1881. Post 8275383 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

5500 volume on huobi on the 30 min chart.. why so serious China?


this is more volume then when it recently spiked above 3700...I guess it really just means were in the accumulation phase.



1882. Post 8275834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: scarsbergholden on August 10, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
Not gonna lie. Looked pretty clear that someone was just buying their own asks on Huobi. I'd love to see some up here, but with this kind of pump action and nobody following, it doesn't look all that good....

I think it is clear that someone made a deal to buy 10000 bitcoin via huobi.

Pretty convenient timing then... asks kept being placed directly before 100-400 BTC buys..... and price moved like $6 on the whole move. We'll see where it goes from here, but seemed like a lot of volume and momentum and not much movement at all.

regardless on the 1minute it looks like more coins are bought over all which is why I say this is accumulation station time lol



1883. Post 8282363 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on August 10, 2014, 05:44:24 PM
Must suck to be that fool that buys at 690+ every time.

It's so odd. At 688 they don't buy but when someone starts pumping those same people panic buy at 695 only to see the price drop back to 688 after that. And then they panic sell of course.
It's always the same. Why do people still fall for it?

Because one of these days the price will move upwards past 600 to never return.

Bitcoin has become a real snoozefest which I think is extremely healthy. We are at circa 590 and bored witless. A few more weeks of this and the weak hands will have sold. Then the next move up can begin.

When exactly are these weak hands done selling? I think i read that same sentence at least 50 times by now over the last 1.5 years.

bro the price sustaining itself alone means its growing imo, could you relax just a bit...the bull run happens when the bulls run happens...who knows when they'll feel tightly cornered and then stampede at some breaking point. Let time do its thing...I've yet to even hold bitcoin for a year...



1884. Post 8289471 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.03h):

we still have a ways to go into August.. flat or within a band of 575 - 599 on stamp..think the pressure still doesn't want 600 to break again.



1885. Post 8306723 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

It is true that you can make some money on these swings.. but no doubt not everyone chooses the right time to execute the trades properly and many are left burnt. If you ultimately believe in long term bullish direction you should just buy more on the way down on staggered limit orders...However its your money and never let anyone tell you what to do with Cheesy ( all the more reason to keep it as bitcon bahaha couldn't help but be a cult maniac)

I bought before the last bubble ramped up and somewhat on its way up..and I could've sold from 1200-900 and nearly make double so you can definitely find better times to make easy sells...I feel the local bottom is 500 but we shall see.



1886. Post 8307374 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

Quote from: Nightowlace on August 12, 2014, 05:40:45 AM
I'm not going to lie, at first I could care less but it's been a steady decline for a few weeks now and it has me a bit worried.

whats to fear, Tera told us what was up a long time ago. Long Grinding capitulation



1887. Post 8326037 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

Quote from: edwardspitz on August 13, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
I think 555 support will hold and bears will need to dump it all if they want to take out support on Stamp. I just woke up and bought at 555.55, so I'm pretty chuffed Smiley

gonna be a 555 ish double bottom if new waves of dumping don't occur



1888. Post 8345253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

Must buy moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



1889. Post 8345372 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

Quote from: BinaryReign on August 14, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
526. Cheap coins people! Is everyone buying?

Not everyone literally, but I know a lot of people who are buying, including myself. Exactly the same thing that happened this time last year, is happening now, only this time we are all buying more than we did this time last year. It's pretty obvious that demand (at least locally) has been increasing a lot since about 3 weeks ago regardless of what it looks like staring at the charts/exchanges.

Honestly I can't believe how fickle and impatient some of you are. I'm not even close to panic, not a bit afraid, and will not be cashing out due to fear even if BTC price drops to $200 or below. I could write a wall of text explaining why, but not many people would get it, and the ones who would get it, wouldn't need my wall of text because they already get it. Long story short, I've been doing my homework for well over a year. Not a day goes by that I don't. I'm both a miner and a hodler, and when it comes to my friends and family, I'm a teacher as well.

Don't let your emotions play any part in this or you'll soon realize you're just another one of the sheep because your hands are too weak.

Get on my level.

 Wink



sad cause I got no fiat on exchange Sad lool woe is the bull in me



1890. Post 8354053 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

Fibs set at the low of last sept and high of the rally show us hitting the support @497 just before the $496 61.8% line. (bitstamp 1d charts)

The last time I used these numbers to call a bottom was our visit to the 330...where the same fibs had 315 as the support before no where land.

Time is all that will reveal whether this will hold but I think it will hold as bottom.

I also looked at the relative percentage in the silk road dips before blastoff on the chance bull whales or manipulators we're trying to get us to believe in that market reaction. Was taking the local high of a round 600-620 taking a 17-20% dip would've been roughly 490-500.



1891. Post 8363101 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

Quote from: DubFX on August 15, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
DUMP APPEARS IMMINENT... ETHEREUM JUST TRANSFERRED 1237 COINS TO THEIR TRADING WALLET.

https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2?filter=1

See... same wallet they sent to two other times. Each time right before a collapse. WATCH OUT!!!!
My fucking god...they still really have 12 millions in their wallet and all they have done was selling 1.3m and it resulted into crash to 500$.
Fuck that..

eth ain't dumping its those getting loans repaid dumping



1892. Post 8374834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

takes time for people to be assured that we're not going to drift further downward, and buy back in at a discount.



1893. Post 8377502 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

the btc dream lives on.. we should be dead by now. hehehe

also got my trezor this week, a week or so in shipping time...enjoying my experience with the hardware wallet



1894. Post 8387521 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

Damn the weekend pump...seems to be in process



1895. Post 8387810 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.05h):

550 eh... panic does awesome stuff in both circumstances.. but I mean if it rockets.. the pigs will be realizing they got slaughtered...I mean I assume those who sold would have limit orders to buy back in descending and ascending just in case.



1896. Post 8403761 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

ltc bottoming out as we speak



1897. Post 8404239 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Cheaper or crashing prices.. just make the people who wrote it off as too expensive to re-evaluate the situation IMO



1898. Post 8404885 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

18000 ltc wall interesting

eaten to 9k while typing lol

4k

gone



1899. Post 8407540 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

grinding capitulation take us away



1900. Post 8409832 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay on August 18, 2014, 04:44:59 AM
It looks like were bouncing off of 490 nicely here, budging lower seems to be out of the question at this point.

Getting ready to pull out the rocketships this week  Grin

I wouldn't mind if it would turn up this way, but so far things are looking rather bearish Sad. Where are all the people screaming in this forum what a bargain under $600 coins are, not talking about under $500, which we were not supposed ever see again?

selling our bodies and souls for more fiat, we can  buy em back later with bitcoin lol



1901. Post 8409873 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

will the 25k wall fall and hello 3.99 ltc?



1902. Post 8421610 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Last time the RSI hit this point on the 3d chart was way back in 2012 lol



1903. Post 8422060 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

If these sales prices don't encourage bulls, and those sitting on the fence.. then time will will Cheesy



1904. Post 8427178 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

I feel so stupid not having the extra fiat on exchange..eugh If I miss a chance to lower my buy in price again by being lazy... eugh Laziness is the true root of all evil.



1905. Post 8428029 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

you know its a busy day when people are quoting trolls Cheesy

However I just beat myself up for not having flash crash money on exchange.. Sadly broken record sounding as I repeat this all the time. However I was just to iffy on holding cash on an exchange for a long period of time despite having full confidence in CaVirtEx



1906. Post 8428144 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: empowering on August 19, 2014, 02:36:43 AM
you know its a busy day when people are quoting trolls Cheesy

However I just beat myself up for not having flash crash money on exchange.. Sadly broken record sounding as I repeat this all the time. However I was just to iffy on holding cash on an exchange for a long period of time despite having full confidence in CaVirtEx

that happens everyday around here  Cheesy

true, I guess in a way everyday is busy her Cheesy Except for sideways days its a bit quieter.



1907. Post 8428370 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: windjc on August 19, 2014, 02:51:36 AM
How miserable is the board? Haven't been here the last day or two.

Just curious. Is everyone prepared for the possibility of retesting 420, 340 and 260? Is everyone ready to test <$260?

Not saying its going to happen, I'm just saying you might want to PREPARE yourself mentally and emotionally with that reality. You might want to have a gut check NOW instead of waiting until one of those scenarios plays out.

A few months ago when we recovered off the lows at 340 there was a lot of optimism around - things were just playing out like normal. Currently, some people STILL think its playing out like "normal" that we won't go below 420 or 340 or lower. Just can't happen.  Well that MIGHT be true. But what if its not??? ---> are you ready for that possibility??

If I was you, I'd have that conversation with myself soon. Because within the next month, its a possibility.

Bro Bro..or Sis SiS just make sure you got some fiat to buy the flash crashes and ensuing panic...Unless you never really believed in bitcoin...or are Mr. Psychopath day trader? Then dump dump? all day?

 It is pretty cliche to say its the internet of its time, but this innovation in securing, storing, transferring wealth, and the things we will build off of it as it becomes mainstream is truly not fully appreciated by many people. I would imagine so because it's been used for a highly speculative purpose, and buying drugs Cheesy and some pizza.



1908. Post 8428386 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 19, 2014, 03:11:34 AM
i' m going to go to sleep early, whats the point of trying to stay up if the dumps come it will be at 3-6AM 

I'll be up...I'll watch them.



1909. Post 8428402 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 19, 2014, 03:15:30 AM
lol noobs.
I am an professional cryptotrader and i just went all in. ejoy being left behind y'allz!


Well, I can promise you one thing - we haven't hit a bottom. There is a total lack of volume. Like none. At all.

Nothing about this looks like a reversal. Sure we could go up from here - to maybe the 490s best case scenario. But we sure as hell haven't capitulated. Maybe if we get up some real steam we could. But this is currently the lamest bounce in the history of bitcoin.
you little FUDster you  Cheesy

People need to understand that this isn't the bottom. Maybe buyers will come in at 440 and that'll be the bottom.

But there is no bottom here. This is just sellers taking a breath.

yes i almost forgot there was an elephant in the room trying to exit.

we haven't been hit with FUD news yet...


could always just be the whales couldn't resist fucking with us cause there was no news to hide behind fucking us with lol.



1910. Post 8428500 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 19, 2014, 03:24:17 AM
i' m going to go to sleep early, whats the point of trying to stay up if the dumps come it will be at 3-6AM 

I'll be up...I'll watch them.

if that hidden wall is sill buying at 3AM,  i'd be buying.

Broken record.. didn't have money on exchange.. LOL I am going to miss a flash crash or flash recovery .. this is 30-40 under my average buy in price.. Feeling dumber by the moment. It's punishment enough watching such things take place.



1911. Post 8428544 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

Quote from: mjk79 on August 19, 2014, 03:27:36 AM
Of all the exchanges which would be the best or most preferred to trade on? Or do people just have accounts on all of them?

MtGox is good....  Grin



Thanks I'm not quite that new..


Maybe Bitstamp/Coinbase?  where are you based?



US, I'm on Coinbase but I was wondering if there's a better exchange for trading with more options.


https://www.kraken.com think its run out of San Fran, correct me if I am wrong. Seems like a decent option state side...not sure about fees and such though



1912. Post 8428856 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

I mean the price is down...but the hash rate is 200,000,000 gh/s strong.. so at least someone believe in mining Cheesy lol



1913. Post 8430228 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.06h):

leverage sounds ever so not fun.



1914. Post 8461209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 20, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
poeple think this war is finished

<- scared shitless

garbing ammo now still confused tho

Them lovely discount prices lead to people jumping in.



1915. Post 8463066 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):

when is the knife that is going to hit the ceiling and come down.. or break through...is this the wave of non lazy people grabbing coins at what they consider undervalued? a wave of new investors thinking similarly



1916. Post 8463713 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.07h):

Quote from: Sandia on August 21, 2014, 03:32:15 AM
$9 more and the real excitement begins.  It will be tough on BFX: 900 coins between 535 and 540.  From 560 up, it is cruise control.

Believe it or not, people are still opening up shorts.

I am sure enough people believe this is all a big bull trap.. reversals are usually painful



1917. Post 8492361 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on August 22, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
I just noticed the strong resistance that was at bitfinex around 670$ is gone. Just gone. Its like a desert up there.

Likely they are moving it to another exchange since nobody can withdrawal fiat from bitstamp.

I am pretty sure a lot people can withdraw from Bitstamp. There's been some changes obviously (according to the Reddit talks..) but they're also processing withdrawals and deposits as they did before. The problems they're not facing are probably due to the changes in their banking partners.

mmm, "banking problems" ... yeah, sure, right ... shouldn't sell what ya don't got.

Edit: first signs of distress from Gox was suspension of fiat withdrawls ... last time it took 9 months for the idiots to clue in

Gox had such a bad name before I even got in to bitcoin I just avoided them all together.. Saying that about bitstamp is pretty silly.. you're insinuating they've been robbed and or have lost cold storage coins.

edit: having banking issues vs stolen coins, are so not in the same ballpark.



1918. Post 8492560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on August 22, 2014, 10:37:37 PM
I just noticed the strong resistance that was at bitfinex around 670$ is gone. Just gone. Its like a desert up there.

Likely they are moving it to another exchange since nobody can withdrawal fiat from bitstamp.

I am pretty sure a lot people can withdraw from Bitstamp. There's been some changes obviously (according to the Reddit talks..) but they're also processing withdrawals and deposits as they did before. The problems they're not facing are probably due to the changes in their banking partners.

mmm, "banking problems" ... yeah, sure, right ... shouldn't sell what ya don't got.

Edit: first signs of distress from Gox was suspension of fiat withdrawls ... last time it took 9 months for the idiots to clue in

Gox had such a bad name before I even got in to bitcoin I just avoided them all together.. Saying that about bitstamp is pretty silly.. you're insinuating they've been robbed and or have lost cold storage coins.

edit: having banking issues vs stolen coins, are so not in the same ballpark.

... ah that's what you inferred. I just pointed out the similarities. Take it how you like it but centralised storage of bitcoin private keys does not have a Stellar history.

Are you willing to leave your bitcoins lying around on an exchange floor somewhere?

agreed, I keep some on exchange something that wouldn't leave me pulling hair out of my head. I just think putting gox and stamp in the same boat at this point is silly. Alas without full knowledge we don't know...people asking for another proof of reserve...at least they're better on not blindly trusting.



1919. Post 8535942 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Listening to Jorge is like the logic behind this adv sometimes. http://i.imgur.com/5cbPWap.jpg

TL:DR

people buying deep fried Cheescake because it donates $1 dollar to type 1 diabetes research is a sure way to develop type II diabetes lol

Not to mention Jorge isn't worried about the global media conglomerates force feeding us certain views..he's more worried about the bitcoin based business cause you know they run the big racket already.



1920. Post 8536096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 26, 2014, 05:49:54 AM
Listening to Jorge is like the logic behind this adv sometimes. http://i.imgur.com/5cbPWap.jpg

TL:DR

people buying deep fried Cheescake because it donates $1 dollar to type 1 diabetes research is a sure way to develop type II diabetes lol

Not to mention Jorge isn't worried about the global media conglomerates force feeding us certain views..he's more worried about the bitcoin based business cause you know they run the big racket already.


+1.... Jorge has a special knack for finding exceptional cases and then attempting to generalize the exceptional situation in order to totally obfuscate reality. 

Just boggles my mind, I can tell he is a bright individual...I hope it is truly not the dirty fiat dollars that lead him to share his opinion in the way that he does.



1921. Post 8545807 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

How can someone be dirt poor, but never had to go hungry or unclothed. Hardly what I'd describe as dirt poor lol. Also sounds like he didn't live in an inner city. You fail to realize you had jobs available to you in your area, the fact you think there abundantly available to everyone is mind boggling lol @ xyzzy099 not to mention you forgot the benefit of having both parents...and apparently the added awesomeness of great parents.


You sound psychopathic or sociopathic @justusranvier ...not everyone thinks taxation is bad..but more if not all would agree the corruption that lead to it not being spent on what it should've have been is bad. However I've yet to meet anyone who thinks rape would or could serve a purpose.

taxation = a better tomorrow when applied correctly, however do to loopholes and greed we currently don't get the full value.

rape = can't be argued that it would help any situation...well maybe a fucking global population crisis but I still think a plan to go out and rape would never be seen as a solution.



On a bitcoin note.. I hope this is the beginning of new buyers testing the water like I did last year following the drop to $80, was not until 143.50  that I stuck a toe in the pool.



1922. Post 8547729 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 26, 2014, 11:00:52 PM
spending 500$ at newegg.ca is easier said then done, i only need and external HD... wtf do i do now  Huh  i want the 30% off 500$  Tongue

25% of at 300 to you know. that or find something nice to buy



1923. Post 8549785 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on August 27, 2014, 03:45:22 AM


I discussed that topic on reddit a couple of months ago:
Danish political party, Liberal Alliance, will be the first party to use the blockchain for voting internally!

Basically, the main problem of any totally-digital e-voting system is that at some point the voter's choice is stored only inside some piece of equipment, and there is no effective way to make sure that said equipment will not change the vote.   One may think of issuing a receipt that allows the voter to check whether his vote was counted, but there seems to be no practical way of (a) preventing the misuse of that receipt to coerce the voter, and (b) preventing the voter from falsely claiming that his vote was miscounted.

By the way, point (a) rules out voting-from-home right away, no matter how sophisticated the counting system.  Voting must be done in a special location, that is carefully designed and monitored to ensure that no one can see the voter's choice, not even if he wants to reveal it.   EDIT: For the same reason,  the voter must not be allowed to use his own equipment when voting. The equipment must be shared by many voters and must be such that it cannot know who is voting, and cannot leak any information other than the total,  not even the order in which votes were cast.

There may be fairly complicated ways of doing that using cruptography.   If they can be proven to work, that would be great news.  However, I doubt that they will be better in practice than the proven medium-tech solution: besides the electronic counting, ensure a paper record of the vote, that the voter can check and the system cannot change afterwards; store that in a conventional ballot box; and count the paper ballots at the voting place, manually, at the end of voting day.  That is a solution that everybody understands and anyone can help to implement.  Cannot get more decentralized and voter-centric than that...

Moreover, I don't see why it would be a good idea to use the bitcoin protocol and blockchain, rather than a separate special-purpose protocol.   Using the bitcoin blockchain for voting sound like "how can we use a jet engine to make popcorn".  Cheesy

You should ask the voters of Florida how that worked out...also the company DIEBOLD lied when it said you couldn't run a .exe on their tabulation machines...a Swedish computer scientist came to a court hearing for them and ran an .exe that changed the final votes...and still they didn't get a proper re count in Florida.



1924. Post 8550244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on August 27, 2014, 04:17:43 AM
However, I doubt that they will be better in practice than the proven medium-tech solution: besides the electronic counting, ensure a paper record of the vote, that the voter can check and the system cannot change afterwards; store that in a conventional ballot box; and count the paper ballots at the voting place, manually, at the end of voting day.

You should ask the voters of Florida how that worked out...also the company DIEBOLD lied when it said you couldn't run a .exe on their tabulation machines...a Swedish computer scientist came to a court hearing for them and ran an .exe that changed the final votes...and still they didn't get a proper re count in Florida.

The old US voting machines did produce a material record of the vote, but in a form (punched card) that the voter could not check.  Thus votes with incompetely punched cards were miscounted, and it may be that even the manual recounters could not easily decide what the voter intended.    Who knows how many errors went undetected in other elections or other states.

The Brazilian e-voting machine is made by ETS, a US company which used to be the Diebold e-voting division until Diebold decided that it was splattering too much fertilizer on its brand.   There seem to be ob$cure rea$on$ why the all-powerful Supreme Electoral Court defends it with nails and teeth, against the better understanding of all experts and even of the majority of Congress.  But that is already way too off this threads topic...


true very off topic.. for a wall observer thread.. but the people went and collected the individual tabulations papers however the polling stations wouldn't give them out..but they would throw them out illegally in to a dumpster not shredded lol.



1925. Post 8550329 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on August 27, 2014, 05:08:53 AM
I understand that libertarians do not like to be told that  their new fantastic Non-Inflationary Currency is currently supported entirely by inflation tax, in the strict sense of the term.  But, unless you can point out some factual inaccuracy in what I wrote, I must assume that by FUD you mean "Facts U Dislike".
Yes, Jorge, no one knew about mining until you broke this revelation to us all.

I know that everyone knows the facts, but it seems that they hate having them called by their proper name.  Wink

Quote
Call me when Satoshi announces that he's considering tapering off the block reward... Then changes his mind because it spooks the market.

If and when mining will be dominated by a cartel of a few large corporations (with substantial reserve harshrate that can be turned on when needed to starve competitors), I bet that they will find ways to impose any changes to the protocol that would maximize their revenue -- no matter what the users and holders will think of them.



you mean what happens if we break the control the 1% have over the globe with their current control?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zhd23_is-poverty-genetic_shortfilms @ 0:16:50 imagine bitcoin broke this model, would love to know more about it. Watch it until the superthermal economy part please and thanks




1926. Post 8550416 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

429 coin wall at 517 D: these walls ain't loyal



1927. Post 8550860 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: Jettison86 on August 27, 2014, 06:14:29 AM
429 coin wall at 517 D: these walls ain't loyal
Wall eaten!  Wall down.  I repeat wall down.   Wink

confirmed Cheesy a lot of the movement is happening in the North American overnight.. interesting...trying to catch the sheep sleeping. hmm any thoughts or is it just Europeans doing business during regular hours via bitstamp?



1928. Post 8551198 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.08h):

Quote from: Raystonn on August 27, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
$520 wall is looking real.  Not pulled after my first bite.



12 coin bite? there were like 5 testers lol



1929. Post 8564309 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on August 28, 2014, 02:24:41 AM
EUR is rallying, USD is dropping like a stone.
I see that 1 EUR was worth ~1.30 USD a year ago, 1.38 USD six months ago, and is back to 1.30 USD now. 

What stone is that, pumice?  Cheesy

pure "gold" Jorge.



1930. Post 8564424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: kromer on August 28, 2014, 03:21:35 AM
He's obviously trying to push the price down to buy more. I wish I had several thousand coins to play with like that. It must be fun!

to think this was possible a couple years ago.

Imo that wall will get eaten close to 2-3 am eastern time.



1931. Post 8564721 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

2k eh 515.. sounds fair.



1932. Post 8573961 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: jonoiv on August 28, 2014, 06:08:14 PM

As there is a good chance many of the asics are already run at a loss.  


This is statement is unfounded at all. Electricity could be very cheap in some part of China

Quote
Maybe it's real but I don't buy it. Especailly as if "secret" in China, it would send out a massive heat signature and the authorities would think they are growing cannabis in those buildings.  

So what? The police will just find a computer farm instead of a cannabis farm.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.360doc.com/relevant/212102353_more.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E4%25B8%25AD%25E5%259C%258B%25E9%259B%25BB%25E5%258A%259B%25E6%2588%2590%25E6%259C%25AC%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dzmj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Drcs

1.00 USD    =    6.14322 CNY

1 CNY = 0.16 cent

very low cost electricy in china is about 0.5 CNY (8 cent per KW/h)

even if the price of EQ is $2000 per TH and it the most effienet machine @ 0.7 watts per GH then it's still run at a loss and at current rates would never break even.  Even if the EQ was free, and it's the most efficient Asic available it would still only be making $12 a month by December (at current difficulty increase).   Similar conditions (only more extreme) than October last year.  BTC is very undervalued.


As for the authorities, finding such an operation I suspect the tax man might be interested, I doubt they would just walk away after finding a 1/4 of a billion $ setup.  

If that's true no one in China (and most parts of the world, actually) should be mining, as they could get more bitcoin by simply buying from the market.

Why?

I was mining when it wasn't profitable last year.  then the big pump came.  But most asics are not currently profitable at current prices.  these are facts.  

I would only guess, that if they built up slowly and paid off equipment asap constantly they could be ahead of the curve. They would also have to have access to massive amounts of asic machinery which I can believe. I also believe they would easily pay less when ordering in bulk, as they would be literally kick starting asic business or allowing a new production line to start up with orders of their size. If you imagine 250m in asic miner @ 2k, that a 125k miners... no way you pay the same 2k a guy buying 1 or maybe 5. SO 5% of the current hash rate is 10,032,203.55 ghs / 125k miner = an average of 80ghs per machine and paying 2k a machine, wait till they're only running 1ths machinery only.



1933. Post 8581151 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

finex on the low with btc-e and finex with a bigger red dildo



1934. Post 8581252 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

I'll say.. if that 205 coin buy on stamp is a fake out by a bull planning to buy more it's pretty ballsy lol



1935. Post 8606751 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

PANIC is non existent, that and a smaller dump happened like 24 hrs ago at this time as well. hmmmm lets see how low we go.



1936. Post 8606804 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: Sandia on August 31, 2014, 08:26:40 AM
Note to self: stay the f**k away from BTC-e.


?? context plz

oh the extreme change in volume going on .. hmmm looks strange indeed/

its like barfing large amount of small order back and forth at a similar price



1937. Post 8610185 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

well panic finally starting to play out across exchanges.



1938. Post 8610225 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: Tzupy on August 31, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
I wonder if support at 440$ will hold for now, or the dumpers will cut through it like a hot knife through butter. Grin
My guesstimated bottom for this round of drops is about 360$, but it will take some time to get there.

all depends on whose willing to gamble that more people expect another dip before a trend reversal, or whose willing to gamble dumping the needed amount.



1939. Post 8610262 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

@abercrombie yea it's dead sell and delete your account Cheesy



1940. Post 8619878 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Can't wait to hear what really happened at btc-e...hacked api of a trader, bad programming whatever it was, will make for an epic story lol.

I'd be more worried if it was android and visa.



1941. Post 8620100 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.09h):

Quote from: esse83 on September 01, 2014, 07:21:05 AM
I'd be more worried if it was android and visa.

Well perhaps, but happy to be all fiat atm. This decline will continue and might accelerate with news about Apple working with Visa, Mastercard and American express to create a mobile wallet.

Speculators gotta do what speculators gotta do. However I've been holding since last Dec, starting buying in Oct and it isn't so hard. I mean I know that if it is to enter bubble like situations I should probably profit take but however I am here to provide my trust in the system and watch it grow.

I don't know why you think this news is going to accelerate the selling. I'd hope as you that GABI doesn't just start buying as the last weak hands dump...not to say they're planning to do it on an exchange or all at once... but the price being where it is they might just do the biggest off exchange buys that they can.



1942. Post 8630654 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: esse83 on September 01, 2014, 07:21:05 AM
I'd be more worried if it was android and visa.

Well perhaps, but happy to be all fiat atm. This decline will continue and might accelerate with news about Apple working with Visa, Mastercard and American express to create a mobile wallet.

http://www.zdnet.com/apple-patches-find-my-iphone-exploit-7000033171/ why I wasn't worried..Apple isn't adding the security that bitcoin does to my money.



1943. Post 8630773 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: Chuckee on September 01, 2014, 10:46:44 PM
TROLL QUOTE DENIED

However wanted to address his comment...not quite sure how you equate price to being the defining factor of bitcoin's growth



1944. Post 8636523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on September 02, 2014, 10:14:16 AM
Got buy orders lined up all down the 400s. Go ahead. Make my day Smiley

Toss in the 3-handles as well... we are only about 30 to 40 off from setting off margins. If even that much.

after that buy on bitfinex, I remain more or less positive that the large holders are milking people out.. and that leaves great buying opportunities for large money...look for no slippage...and I don't mean etf's gabi etc.. just people who buy on exchange with the extra fiat they feel is worth risking for this revolutionary idea.



1945. Post 8636608 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on September 02, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
Got buy orders lined up all down the 400s. Go ahead. Make my day Smiley

Toss in the 3-handles as well... we are only about 30 to 40 off from setting off margins. If even that much.

after that buy on bitfinex, I remain more or less positive that the large holders are milking people out.. and that leaves great buying opportunities for large money...look for no slippage...and I don't mean etf's gabi etc.. just people who buy on exchange with the extra fiat they feel is worth risking for this revolutionary idea.

I was thinking that for a while, as well... but look at the 4-hour chart. It be scary.

essentially that is the point.. they succeed when people panic sell purely because they're trying to speculate and have no clue what they're doing. China's ban fest really started the selling signals way back in Dec. bulls are still feeling bearish after that rape fest.. believing our pure optimism could out weigh Chinese panic lol...however plan and weigh the chances of as many probabilities as you can.



1946. Post 8645448 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

I can see it hitting for 457 - 460 .. but again that is only to create panic. So someone can accumulate coins... imagine if your just sitting on coins and fiat from the last bubble.. trying to lower your abp and acquire more coins.. must be an awesome job.



1947. Post 8659143 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: empowering on September 03, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
I recommend watching this=  http://youtu.be/hpAMbpQ8J7g   Slavoj Zizek investigates the surprising ethical implications of charitable giving.  

It touches on many discussions  that have been discussed here in this thread by many (soicety, freedom, (crony) capitalism, property, property is theft, big government,taxation/charity/socialism/welfare state etc) and it reaches a nice crescendo...  

Slavoj slaying it... even if you do not agree with everything he says he is a pleasure to listen to...brain nourishment.


 



I shared this shit out of this back when I first saw it. Cultural capitalism is such an interesting idea.



1948. Post 8666573 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

Quote from: jeezy on September 04, 2014, 07:24:07 AM
Let's crash to 300 already and get it over with. At least more cheap coins for all of us. New ATH will come for sure in the next year.

should've bought coins back when it did...get over hoping for the rich to dump 20k in like 5 minutes without the other rich buying in before they can dump em all.



1949. Post 8681409 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.10h):

China lead us to new found glory..I always trusted in you Cheesy lol



1950. Post 8722822 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

LoL trollbox alive with chatter.. what kind've bot has that much cash flow if it was an error?



1951. Post 8735504 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

People chill the fuck out Tongue, its more fun to sip on a drink while watching the the trolling unfold as bitcoin makes in roads to places they never though possible. Fuck getting rich overnight..I'm willing to put years in Cheesy My first year of hodling comes up in Oct..er mer gerd its be a roller coaster Cheesy



1952. Post 8737209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 08, 2014, 09:57:09 PM
People chill the fuck out Tongue, its more fun to sip on a drink while watching the the trolling unfold as bitcoin makes in roads to places they never though possible. Fuck getting rich overnight..I'm willing to put years in Cheesy My first year of hodling comes up in Oct..er mer gerd its be a roller coaster Cheesy

why you not stay in BTC for life?

who said I wasn't Adam...perhaps that's what I mean by "put years in".



1953. Post 8738938 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

Quote from: tarmi on September 09, 2014, 12:40:52 AM


1. No one time. You have 50 BTC invested.
2. You take 1 BTC of your invested stack and buy whatever product you want
3. The you rebuy 1 BTC with fiat

So you only spend 1 times the fiat cost of the item you bought (although probably less due to all the benefits of Bitcoin)

Hmmm I'm sorry but how does this not entail spending 2x the amount of money, fiat or BTC.




Depends upon definition... Of course, you have spent twice;however, one of those spending is a form of internal transfer from yourself and to yourself.  The other is a transfer from yourself to another entity... Accordingly, there is only 1x spending from yourself to another entity.


but you have to pay the fee even if you are "spending from yourself to yourself".

Generally I'm cool with 5 cents as cost of transfer on my larger movements, but I've gone 0.0 for a kick once or twice on small amounts Cheesy



1954. Post 8738949 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on September 09, 2014, 04:06:57 AM
Even though we haven't gone up in price yet, I wonder what the ones that shorted 10K BTC are thinking now that paypal is integrating.

Any of those shorters here in this thread?  I'd love to hear your thoughts.

they shouldn't fear that process since conversion of btc back to fiat doesn't always equate to 1 for 1 rebuys of btc, the real benefit to me is the publicity it will give bitcoin, people at banks still talk of it as it's some elaborate joke. 



1955. Post 8739789 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

998 coin dump panic inducers all on their own?



1956. Post 8755867 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

Quote from: spiderbrain on September 10, 2014, 05:45:59 AM
Last bubble was 200 to 1k
Really it was 100 > 1K. It wasn't stable at 200 for any length of time.

But you're right, either 250 > 1.1k peak to peak, or 100 > 500 stable to stable it's a factor of x5, not x11.

I saw it more like 80 to 1230 or so.. but that's my look at it.

Huobi trying to break us out.. second time trying to break 480



1957. Post 8755980 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.11h):

I wonder if the rally begins when the sellers just plain run out of coins? The dumps seem so calculated, doesn't even seem to create panic the way they could've a month ago.



1958. Post 8767463 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):

479.. I mean its not like I didn't expect it.. the dumpers still got coins.. it could be them accumulating those large burst buys. Whales love the lower slippage buys.



1959. Post 8773172 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):

in terms of hash rate we're probably seeing the change over from equipment that can no longer run efficiently, but doesn't mean a new wave of new tech doesn't come on line to replace in soon enough...interesting idea to imagine a new mining company selling at loss to hurt other miners pretty risky lol ... seems like another point where speculation over getting into mining is pretty obvious.



1960. Post 8788675 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):

2k dump and no1 panics seems like people are just waiting to buy on a (confirmed) rallly...I will admit to be dumbfounded but I've been waiting for this long period after Tera explained she expected a long grinding capitulation ... so her words remain wise.



1961. Post 8801332 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):

http://www.bfxdata.com/swaphistory/totals.php

seems like a huge short or amount of shorts closed



1962. Post 8815804 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.12h):

Interesting hash rate back up to 240,000,000 gh/s still believers on the mining side eh..I guess people felt speculation was to risky...lol



1963. Post 8855156 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: adaseb on September 17, 2014, 06:10:40 AM
All of a sudden the bears appear

Bitfinex  about $470 ~1500 BTC wall
about $475  ~650 wall


OKCOIN about 2855   ~500 BTC wall

Bitstamp all the way up to $465 about $2800 BTC wall


Most likely those wall won't get filled

Eventually they will all crumble or be bought.. just takes time for the new joiners to want in ... so many people still ask me if bitcoin actually exists as if it really was some sort of fantasy or money used in an alternate reality.



1964. Post 8855171 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: mooncake on September 17, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
All of a sudden the bears appear

Bitfinex  about $470 ~1500 BTC wall
about $475  ~650 wall


OKCOIN about 2855   ~500 BTC wall

Bitstamp all the way up to $465 about $2800 BTC wall


Most likely those wall won't get filled

And the pattern keeps repeating... Where do the coins come from???

you don't run out if you re buy on the ensuing panic, slash maybe whale wallet flexes.



1965. Post 8855808 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

interesting evening, last time we dipped below this point on RSI was aug 18th and that day there was some more panic.



1966. Post 8855822 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: podyx on September 17, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Feels great to see my life savings just dissappear

Can't sell at this huge loss either..



fucking hell


when playing with life savings maybe some stop losses are in order.



1967. Post 8856318 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

I've only known one person irl that did buy in to bitcoin...and I think it was because that person found it on their own. I feel the next bubble will have passed by the time I have a friend actually ask me to walk him/her through the steps even though I've told em about localbitcoins and all the steps required to register at the Canadian exchange options :d not to mention that's after telling em to go read the whitepaper and some of the easier to digest youtube about what bitcoin is.



1968. Post 8868311 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

lol all this panic and here I am thinking about how much to deposit at the bank tommorrow



1969. Post 8868328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: Walsoraj on September 18, 2014, 02:09:59 AM
lol all this panic and here I am thinking about how much to deposit at the bank tommorrow

There is never a shortage of greater fools until the house fully collapses.

at least I come with a nice hat



1970. Post 8868402 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 18, 2014, 02:20:13 AM
fuck this is annoying....

you should have some beer Cheesy or whiskey if you're feeling keto.



1971. Post 8868767 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

where does it stop you think? the hash rate that is Cheesy



1972. Post 8868843 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 18, 2014, 03:16:24 AM
where does it stop you think?

not for a LONG time, the mining tech is improving cost pre TH is coming down.... and so it hash rate goes up.

if we could get out of this damn down trend, then we'd be sure hash rate will continue to go up Up UP!!!!!!!

I meant in the sense where would this recent spike in has rate peak, 219 to 289k gh/s is pretty impressive..wonder if its a new farm coming online or testing of new mining gear pre shipment.



1973. Post 8869585 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.13h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 18, 2014, 05:00:03 AM


if I didn't panic back when the goxxin occurred why would I or we now. But sure would've been smart to buy in that 330 zones Cheesy



1974. Post 8878638 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Dan depositting money early this week would've been sweet



1975. Post 8880865 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

The best part about today is how much CaVirtEx has improved deposit options. Wow via interac getting $500 to my exchange in literally 30 minutes as that was the time it took to get to a bank and deposit money not knowing I could use any of my banks via interac which would meant money on exchange in the time it takes to type out info Cheesy and the fee of $1.50 is better than the $5 old bill payment fee which is now up to $20 but also that money mart bill payment option being free for a limited time seemed inticing as well. However Direct EFT is $5 would be much better when you have a larger amount of fiat to drop on the exchange, seems reasonable to me.


I had to spend the fiat as I was typing this I saw a buy go through on Stamp for 5xx was it and someone on Cavirtex put 1.xx coins for 456.5 ( $13 of the daily low on exchange) so I took em before they responded to stamps buying pressure. Hope it doesn't drop before midnight time so I can do another Interac payment as the daily timer flips over.

Happy market watching all Cheesy




1976. Post 8880995 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

let it play out choose your side.. and don't think 15 - 30 minutes of either direction at this point is going to let us know the market has made its mind up.

this is capitulation and you can definitely see lots of people grabbing coins cause they haven't lost faith.

Also when stamp usd/btc @ $430 at the moment.. and I paid 456 cad with 430usd = 470.16cad...I think it was a fair price at that moment.



1977. Post 8881515 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Tera where art thou' , bless us with your presence...and insight.



1978. Post 8882010 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: criptix on September 18, 2014, 11:16:25 PM
Feel so sorry for those buying now  Cry wish they understood elementary TA. That shit actually works.. like a broken clock

lol

and yeah keep feeling sorry for everyone who doesn't want to believe you have to make a fortune overnight trading as if you were some fiber optic driven algo trading bot.



1979. Post 8882207 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: esse83 on September 18, 2014, 11:38:15 PM
Feel so sorry for those buying now  Cry wish they understood elementary TA. That shit actually works.. like a broken clock

lol

and yeah keep feeling sorry for everyone who doesn't want to believe you have to make a fortune overnight trading as if you were some fiber optic driven algo trading bot.

You will see that I was right.. not sure what that rest was about HFT.. I just used common sense when trading. Sorry if it turned out to be right.

If you want to talk that game be like Tera, and some others..who have posted the screen shots of their order books, before and after getting filled.. its easy to talk, prove it if you like.

If I missed something you're calling this a bull trap and we've yet to bottom out.. and where is the bottom in your opinion... I'd be interested in seeing 330 get tested what kind crazy volume would occur.. but I've been procrastinating on buying more for a while and today I couldn't resist mind you I decided to buy yesterday
Quote from: Davyd05 on September 18, 2014, 02:08:29 AM
lol all this panic and here I am thinking about how much to deposit at the bank tomorrow


Not to say that you can't make money trading it's just not how I plan to do it currently. To infer common sense would be enough to analyze the trends of this market would be silly on top of everything else.



1980. Post 8882304 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: esse83 on September 19, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
Feel so sorry for those buying now  Cry wish they understood elementary TA. That shit actually works.. like a broken clock

lol

and yeah keep feeling sorry for everyone who doesn't want to believe you have to make a fortune overnight trading as if you were some fiber optic driven algo trading bot.

You will see that I was right.. not sure what that rest was about HFT.. I just used common sense when trading. Sorry if it turned out to be right.

If you want to talk that game be like Tera, and some others..who have posted the screen shots of their order books, before and after getting filled.. its easy to talk, prove it if you like.

If I missed something you're calling this a bull trap and we've yet to bottom out.. and where is the bottom in your opinion... I'd be interested in seeing 330 get tested what kind crazy volume would occur.. but I've been procrastinating on buying more for a while and today I couldn't resist mind you I decided to buy yesterday
lol all this panic and here I am thinking about how much to deposit at the bank tomorrow


Not to say that you can't make money trading it's just not how I plan to do it currently. To infer common sense would be enough to analyze the trends of this market would be silly on top of everything else.


Never pressented orderbook which seems pointless when facts are starying you in the face. Wouldnt make much differeance to ppl  anyways. I'm not presenting myself as great trader, but some of this shit was obvious.. Did you actually think btc would go to a new ATH... btw if u want me to post it I will do it tomorrow (gf screaming at me to get to bed).
 
Happy tading Smiley

I don't think its going to an ath tomorrow.. or next week.. but at some point it will, the infrastructure is better suited for a the next wave of people who want bitcoin and .. it may include more speculators which could change the speed in which direction I can't fathom.



1981. Post 8882466 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

@esse83

edit : re read and understood. so you didnt' rebuy in the 330s to sell in the high 600s?



1982. Post 8884441 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Think we'll see fireworks during Friday? catching people of guard, not sure what I expect at this point another leg down or a green spike with everyone thinking it's about to get worse.



1983. Post 8884588 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: Argwai96 on September 19, 2014, 06:10:17 AM
Think we'll see fireworks during Friday? catching people of guard, not sure what I expect at this point another leg down or a green spike with everyone thinking it's about to get worse.

I'm expecting more downside, but I'm not sure that this bounce is complete. Could still retest that broken support around $440. So I'm not shorting here. On the flip side, if we steamroll through 2850 CNY, I might have to chase after the train.....


@Argawai96 I'll have fiat on the exchange either way, this is lowering my buy in price. If I wanted out or to day trade those times have come and gone. I wonder how many are just content to lower their average buy in prices.

@Malin Keshar I'd say that will be more obvious with a change of direction, we shall see what kind of tolerance for sideways the market has.



1984. Post 8884895 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

btc-e wants to test the 3xx



1985. Post 8884968 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: heartastack on September 19, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
btc-e wants to test the 3xx

It's appearing very obviously calculated now. This entity is not just a dumper but a bottom finder for sure


I hate that this entity chose a night I have to sleep lol Cheesy



1986. Post 8891420 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

A lil bit of column a, lil bit of column b and heck why not c-z as well.



1987. Post 8892002 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Damn I trolled myself reading those comments, one included mmitech



1988. Post 8896073 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: colour on September 20, 2014, 12:54:00 AM
I guess we won't see any significant upward movement until new funds arrive at the exchanges on Monday? Probably just sideways movement followed by occasional dumps until then.

At CaVirtEx we can deposit via interac for a fee of $1.50 up to $500 daily. Or Direct EFT which is a $5 fee but a much higher limit. Either way I wanted to start getting money to the exchange near wednesday I would assume stronger predators smelling the fear would've been on top of this earlier than I.

I wonder how often people are actually left waiting for deposits..this is also what I was referencing earlier in some posts because the infrastructure for me to deposit has increased so much so IMO since I started to buy last year at this time.



1989. Post 8896221 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

I think Adam is trying to trick the manipulators in to believing he's truly in despair.

 I've lost zero confidence that bitcoin is still primed to make an impact globally, still plenty of hurdles for it but how could we not expect some rough time after what M.K allowed to happen with everyone watching us in the spotlight.

People I know that are friendly towards bitcoin but don't have the cash to invest, are tempted to say fuck it and buy in the 300s.. perhaps we have to get this low to entice some of these people to really get acquainted with the bitcoin world.

Open source financial tools seem like something all society have needed since we allowed the few to control the wealth of many. Not to mention the few have more of the wealth to start with D:

As a speculator, yeah I'd hold off on buying till the bottom is defined in serious volume.



1990. Post 8896260 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: blade87 on September 20, 2014, 01:46:54 AM
HOLY SHIT. EBAY IS GOING TO ACCEPT BTC. REMEMBER WHEN NEW EGG STARTED

Yeah. I remember Overstock. But the price kept falling. Then Newegg came along, but the price kept falling. The OMG PAYPAL - but the price kept falling!

Market is beat, this is sentiment, even Ebay isn't going to save it now. Tongue

till people other than those who already own and use bitcoin decide they want to hold some, we won't see the true effect of these business accepting the use of bitcoin, we could also question how the SR shutdown seemed to be a launch pad for the last rally, was it the exposure it gave bitcoin that helped to get so many people to feel the need to grab a bitcoin and hold it.



1991. Post 8896298 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 20, 2014, 01:53:30 AM
is ebay really going to accept bitcoin tho?

i thought it was just braintree from paypal.

yeah I am looking for some sort of info regarding that statement..not having any luck just yet but /r/bitcoin isn't really a thorough search lol



1992. Post 8896366 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: mccoyspace on September 20, 2014, 02:04:24 AM
stamps inching closer to that 1.1K BTC wall @390  Cry
ove half gone

but no where near 500 coins sold ..only 94 in the last hour.



1993. Post 8896401 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: marthelo on September 20, 2014, 02:07:15 AM

the price was driven down hard and quick right before newegg... paypal is ten times that ....ITS A SET UP. thats the anouncment....

Hmm the inner bull wants to believe the lows are pure manipulation. However in reality we're always left with the only one option which is to let it all play out.



1994. Post 8896815 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: spooderman on September 20, 2014, 03:08:07 AM
300s gone forever

lol, I said that about the 400s a few months ago Sad

eugh.. 427 cad is nice.. doesn't seem like I am going to get better than this tonight... what with btc-e almost being 400+ again.



1995. Post 8896827 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: podyx on September 20, 2014, 03:10:42 AM
Probably just a bulltrap

thats the only reason I've yet to blow the Friday load on this.



1996. Post 8897121 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Adam you don't use cavirtex?

edit: and so 428 cad 431 with fees is my low buy of the day it seems



1997. Post 8897267 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: spooderman on September 20, 2014, 04:29:24 AM
anyone else not particularly convinced? lol

I can't wait for the real "oh shit I should have bought back in" feeling that at some point should hit all the dumpers.

it might whipsaw down again.. might not.. we shall see overnight Cheesy but atleast I lowered my abp this time lol



1998. Post 8899421 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

Quote from: dannyspk on September 20, 2014, 09:45:57 AM
Is anyone watching the bids piling up at Houbi slowly?

hopefully it can push past 2569 and a higher low Cheesy , finex and stamp and huboi seem pretty active at the same times



1999. Post 8899520 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.14h):

I rest knowing the market will be wacky while I sleep Cheesy



2000. Post 8909350 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: Torque on September 21, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
Oooh, look, the pumpers' pump didn't work.  So they're dumping again.  

I can't imagine why bitcoin suddenly got all unpopular, with a full 10 months of straight dumping and all.  Who woulda thunk it?   Roll Eyes

swing trades are in



2001. Post 8919523 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Adam you buying Monday. I did Fri, Sat and now thinking of doing Mon buy as well. my ABP was 540cad so I need to re calc but it is so hard not to buy lol



2002. Post 8919783 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 01:24:32 AM
Adam you buying Monday. I did Fri, Sat and now thinking of doing Mon buy as well. my ABP was 540cad so I need to re calc but it is so hard not to buy lol

maybe... depends on price.  Tongue

just looking at virtex now, i'd be buying if i could right about now  Tongue

have you tried that interac online 500 daily limit still get ya a bitcoin and some lol



2003. Post 8920054 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 01:33:20 AM
Adam you buying Monday. I did Fri, Sat and now thinking of doing Mon buy as well. my ABP was 540cad so I need to re calc but it is so hard not to buy lol

maybe... depends on price.  Tongue

just looking at virtex now, i'd be buying if i could right about now  Tongue

have you tried that interac online 500 daily limit still get ya a bitcoin and some lol

lol 500 daily limit

no i haven't tried

maybe i should, i can just load it up that way in a few days, i never buy all at once anyway.

The Interac online fee was a $1.50 and the Direct EFT is $5.00 with a much higher limit. I figured if you plan on maxing it 4 days in a row maybe one direct eft with a min amount of 2k makes more sense when incurring fees. However the money was there so much quicker than my previous experience with vogogo bill payments like ( 3-4days ) it was instantly there after imputing my banking info via my choice of bank. However they say money mart bill payments are free for a limited time.



2004. Post 8920118 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

it is, I finally feel free of worry that I'll miss the flash crash.. at least at this point in time $500 can get me a decent chunk of coin.



2005. Post 8920227 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 02:25:31 AM
had to login to see exactly what your talking about

"INTERAC Online" i do this with in my online banking or somthing  Huh

after you select the amount of money and confirm it takes you to a portal where you choose the banks to make the payment, I just chose the bank I had verified with at the exchange but I don't even know if that is needed. It gave me the major banks and others which looked like credit unions etc and then it was logging in to that with the regular banking process to confirm the payment on that side. Then it shoots you back to cavirtex.

Bingo, yeah this option plus when they instituted the mandatory 2 factor and also lowering the fees to .75% a side from 1.5% all helped keep me loyal to cavirtex.



2006. Post 8920304 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
had to login to see exactly what your talking about

"INTERAC Online" i do this with in my online banking or somthing  Huh

after you select the amount of money and confirm it takes you to a portal where you choose the banks to make the payment, I just chose the bank I had verified with at the exchange but I don't even know if that is needed. It gave me the major banks and others which looked like credit unions etc and then it was logging in to that with the regular banking process to confirm the payment on that side. Then it shoots you back to cavirtex.
I'm trying..

my bank isn't listed  Sad

i guess i could try using my gf's TD acount, but we'd have to set up her online banking again...

meh i'll just do Direct Withdraw EFT

voogogo option seems to be gone.



think its 20 bucks now via some other method.. sorry they didnt have your bank..even in the other option or was that all like credit unions. mind ya the direct eft makes sense for 2k deposits Cheesy



2007. Post 8920331 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 02:42:45 AM
had to login to see exactly what your talking about

"INTERAC Online" i do this with in my online banking or somthing  Huh

after you select the amount of money and confirm it takes you to a portal where you choose the banks to make the payment, I just chose the bank I had verified with at the exchange but I don't even know if that is needed. It gave me the major banks and others which looked like credit unions etc and then it was logging in to that with the regular banking process to confirm the payment on that side. Then it shoots you back to cavirtex.
I'm trying..

my bank isn't listed  Sad

i guess i could try using my gf's TD acount, but we'd have to set up her online banking again...

meh i'll just do Direct Withdraw EFT

voogogo option seems to be gone.



think its 20 bucks now via some other method.. sorry they didnt have your bank..even in the other option or was that all like credit unions. mind ya the direct eft makes sense for 2k deposits Cheesy

or 10K

Whatever your heart is content with.. last year round this time 10k was the amount I was looking to buy in with. Wish I just dropped it all at once was just before the first rise past the old ath of 266



2008. Post 8920395 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 02:50:21 AM
had to login to see exactly what your talking about

"INTERAC Online" i do this with in my online banking or somthing  Huh

after you select the amount of money and confirm it takes you to a portal where you choose the banks to make the payment, I just chose the bank I had verified with at the exchange but I don't even know if that is needed. It gave me the major banks and others which looked like credit unions etc and then it was logging in to that with the regular banking process to confirm the payment on that side. Then it shoots you back to cavirtex.
I'm trying..

my bank isn't listed  Sad

i guess i could try using my gf's TD acount, but we'd have to set up her online banking again...

meh i'll just do Direct Withdraw EFT

voogogo option seems to be gone.



think its 20 bucks now via some other method.. sorry they didnt have your bank..even in the other option or was that all like credit unions. mind ya the direct eft makes sense for 2k deposits Cheesy

or 10K

Whatever your heart is content with.. last year round this time 10k was the amount I was looking to buy in with. Wish I just dropped it all at once was just before the first rise past the old ath of 266

something tells me i have plenty of time to ease into a position.

I thought I did as well, I am not saying this atmosphere is like last years atmosphere .. local btc'd 3.15 at 142.50 a piece next buy on cavirtex was in the 300+ range  and then again in the 400-600 range Sad and then 700-900 lol



2009. Post 8921298 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

buying is nice to see but, will we just have a nice 3k red dildo slapped across faces again?



2010. Post 8922504 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

and a 600 coin dump Cheesy trying to induce the panic



2011. Post 8931647 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 22, 2014, 10:02:17 PM
nice little finex/stamps divergence, shorts are feeling the heat?

is that short covering or dumping? on stamp



2012. Post 8932256 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: exocytosis on September 22, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
I'm noticing there's a bullish sentiment here again, after some recent bearishness.

That means we'll hit 350 and lower by the weekend.

buying more coins this weekend I guess lol



2013. Post 8935211 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

my new theory is most of those who bought pre bubble and sold the 10x or high top of 800+ won't rebuy till were going above it where they regain some sort of trust in bitcoins value lol



2014. Post 8936265 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

think arb bots are making money... with the spread between btc-e and almost all exchanges?



2015. Post 8936365 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

http://blog.okcoin.com/2014/09/23/okcoins-new-maker-taker-fee-model-illustrated/

Dem Asian dumps?



2016. Post 8946554 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

But but but they said bitcoin was dead.



2017. Post 8948418 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 24, 2014, 01:38:12 AM
still waiting for my funds to arrive  Cry

bro bro could've setup online banking by now lol, and interac'd online Cheesy



2018. Post 8948460 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: Gatekeeper on September 24, 2014, 01:47:47 AM
lol yeah he must get the award for worst timing trade haha.

Shorts are still over 10.5k, there's strong bid support, bears still think it's going down, things are looking good  Grin

many people feel we still need to revisit low 360 ish territory and maybe crash through, I don't see a need in it...besides bears being negative to the year of forward progress in the fundamentals.



2019. Post 8948508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 24, 2014, 02:17:15 AM
still waiting for my funds to arrive  Cry

bro bro could've setup online banking by now lol, and interac'd online Cheesy

its all good, my fund transfer taking some time is preventing me from panic buying. soon the price will drop below 400 again! and i will buy buy buy!!! muahahaha

if we go back towards 400, I'd say pick em up near 3xx Cheesy best of luck to you Tongue I got mine at 428cad and 455cad I could pick up more if the time occurs.



2020. Post 8950322 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

looks like dumpers go back to dumping when the green candles stop growing...wonder how safe that'll be for next while. That or Arb bots have to work there magic to keep exchanges close together.



2021. Post 8950677 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

how much of bfl hashing power has been turned off Cheesy lol that spike seems to be met with a lot of hashing going offline how bad were they scamming.



2022. Post 8961287 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

Quote from: Raystonn on September 25, 2014, 01:13:44 AM
Your choice.  Either be the bag holder or take a beating.


lol



2023. Post 8962590 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

go stamp, trigger some buys and stop the bearish dumpers.



2024. Post 8963167 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.15h):

gnu bash vulnerability fear mongering going on /r/bitcoin, be safe do your research.



2025. Post 8978091 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

How many bounces off of 395 edit 390ish can we have ?



2026. Post 8978244 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 26, 2014, 09:49:03 AM
How many bounces off of 395 edit 390ish can we have ?

I thought that we were using bitstamp as our price reference point?  , and bitstamp has NOT gone below $400 for more than 2.5 days ago.. touched $400 twice during that period, so far.

right you are, seems I was observing it incorrectly at stamp but still a lot of the other exchanges have dipped below 400. I would really just prefer the bottom to go ahead and solidify itself already lol.



2027. Post 8985213 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on September 26, 2014, 09:54:53 AM
How many bounces off of 395 edit 390ish can we have ?

I thought that we were using bitstamp as our price reference point?  , and bitstamp has NOT gone below $400 for more than 2.5 days ago.. touched $400 twice during that period, so far.

right you are, seems I was observing it incorrectly at stamp but still a lot of the other exchanges have dipped below 400. I would really just prefer the bottom to go ahead and solidify itself already lol.

Dammit I was just being psychic. HOWEVER I feel the bottom is stronger today then yesterday



2028. Post 8997433 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

If you wanna dish you gotta take it too.

I'm sure it is just trolling behavior all these reddit post asking how PayPal using bitcoin is good for bitcoin. I think it's easily believable that we don't have too much more then a couple million people using btc and therefore PayPal will only add exporsure to businesses and consumers alike. At this point exposure is the important factor.



2029. Post 9001197 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

I guess the perma bulls are caught up in seeing adoption rise, and the bears can supply the newbies coins. I find it awesome that we have the spectrum of bitcoin end user commenting here, from cultist bulls to trolling bears we have the full gambit. I can naturally see why those who trade the technicals will bump headss with long term perma bulls here and or out there, but I suppose that is where strong support in the markets is found so I figure that is just another lil relationship.



2030. Post 9001410 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.16h):

Quote from: manfred on September 28, 2014, 08:58:05 AM

How low would you like it?  Is there a price from which Bitcoin wouldn't recover?

Interesting question. ... Is there a non-negative price from which Bitcoin couldn't recover?
You guys are a funny bunch. Bitcoin is down 27.88 % from the yearly average price ($556) and up 223.39 % from a year ago ($124) More than 200 % up and its dead and buried. epic

due impart to bulls yelling moon, the bears can then troll on these relatively modest gains Cheesy Obviously pointing out those buying at the top and showing the negative gains and feeling like bagholders.



2031. Post 9010162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: inca on September 28, 2014, 11:47:50 PM
As the price declines, it becomes easier for brokers to negotiate lower prices on behalf of their clients to buy bitcoin in large quantities outside the exchanges. We are witnessing a transfer of wealth. The exchanges are so thinly traded that a large institutional trading desk could move the entire bitcoin market. These large corrections have been a part of bitcoin's entire price cycle.

Highly likely. A lot of coins are moving around at or below these prices off exchange. Once this new accumulation has taken place then something like the ETF will be announced or EBAY will directly integrate btc or something and its off to the races. A mania can be whipped up in bitcoin in a few hours of concerted buying. If people think half a billion dollars of VC money is being thrown at bitcoin and noone has thought about the profit potential from actually taking large positions in bitcoin itself then you are in for a surprise.

Edit: though I wish they would hurry up about it..

TL:DR Have some coins on hand if you can, if you day trade enjoy the volatility but make sure you have plans for the reversal. If your long term bearish we don't believe in you, like you don't believe in the protocol Cheesy



2032. Post 9010879 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: akujin on September 29, 2014, 01:33:44 AM
Mini pump  Grin
Wake up guys Grin

indeed how high does she go.

 I really think this is manipulation cause if we had a proper panic we could test our last bottom properly ( 340 ish ) but whatever lets just milk the desperate and despaired.



2033. Post 9014029 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Patience is all I need. However it be nice to see the bears get it together and create a new low. Failing to do so since the the era of China ban nd the goxxing.



2034. Post 9014099 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: prophetx on September 29, 2014, 09:55:44 AM
going to the Moon is a choice we make  Grin



Were stocking fuel for Mars, don't cha know?



2035. Post 9014168 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on September 29, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
I won't be closing my shorts anytime soon

Perhaps eating them?



2036. Post 9021588 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: MoreFun on September 29, 2014, 09:04:02 PM
k this is bottom....

If you are the market manipulator and dumper you can say this, otherwise you are just guessing. Really.

welcome to the speculation sub-forum

Yea that is true, but just make sure that it is not about what we want, but what they want. And any observation is true as the oposite one.

If they want bounce they will market buy 2k and set bid walls, if they want to reject bounce after 15% drop in 24h, they will set walls to prevent it. They are smart. Cause they know what we think and how we behave, but we don't know how they think and what is their plan - but we know what is their end goal (but that doesn't help us much as it looks like).

Is "their" end goal BTC/USD @ 0$ or accumulate as many as possible( if the latter one , than you wouldn´t have much to worry about((only if you´re not in a leveraged position of course))  Cheesy )

Their end goal is to milk you and other believers in 10k bubbles stories.

They are in it for profit and dumping bitcoin on you for over 1k$ was way overpriced with what bitcoin offers today.

EDIT: Buy bitcoin for 10$, pump it, market it as digital gold and internet of internet, dump for 1000$ to the chinese

You are forgeting that they will probably do it once again and try for BTC to become very succesfull, cause they will have the power. And they won't kill the chicken that lays golden eggs, they will just repeat the thing and the slowly become riiiiich... market is still so small that they can do anything to convice internet nerds to do what they want.

I guess the people who believe its all about the bubbles only end up buying when the next one has clearly started, I guess that is one of the advantages to buying in what seems to be a capitulation or accumulation zone



2037. Post 9021617 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: MoreFun on September 29, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
Honestly this is the question we don't know for sure the answer, but we know that they are not selling off (going out of BTC) - it would be much more simple and much more profitable to sell it on OTC - even 50k+ coins. But much more believable is, that they want to accumulate cheap (maybe even through cheap OTC bulk buys) and rinse & repeat the bubble. Being end goal BTC at 0 is low probability, cause they were probably early in the game and understand the things well, this would be possible only in the case if someone is doing this who doesn't want BTC to succeed (banks, gvt...). Or if these coins are stolen and they really have xxx.000 BTC (but probably exchanges would get them). But all this killing BTC in imo less than 10% chance.

And remember - China is not the cause of all this rise and fall, its the tool.

My theory is that they want to push to 350, but not much lower. Lower towards $200s will encourage longer-term holders to sell, and of course the whales need them as support on the way up. Their dumps are getting smaller as the price gets lower. They were rejected @ 375 and will have to spend considerably more coin to knock the price down.

They don't dump anymore, they just dump in mostly their own walls and when price is high (paypal push). They control the sentiment and orderbooks and price action so others sell for them. Do you think they care if price is $100 for two days so they can get XX.000 BTC and they push it to 500 in the next two days. Its all about their plan. To bad we don't know what it is.

as tinfoil hattish as it seems, with a limited user base and people with money out there taking advantage of that fact it's hard to deny the truth to it.



2038. Post 9021677 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/feds-butterfly-labs-mined-bitcoins-on-customers-boxes-before-shipping/

These guys were capital A Assholes...holy fudge.

Man I don't why it never clicked to be that a machine testing should be tied to a customer order, the coins are then mined and sent to the customer's address sans hosting fees. Easy peezy keep the customer happy while avoiding any breakdowns from not being able to test machinery.



2039. Post 9022515 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

and the dumps come right on time, come on..atleast get down to the old bottom bears.

not that I didn't expect dumps on circle going live, its been sell any news since China bans.



2040. Post 9022582 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: MemCiD on September 29, 2014, 10:40:59 PM
Even CoinDesk is now desperately trying to pump up the price.. Roll Eyes

www.coindesk.com/predicting-bitcoins-next-price-rise/
lol
Quote

Mercede, who is CEO of Cryptocoin Capital Management (CCM), claims he has made an average return of between 8%–15% per day mostly by buying off Chinese exchanges and selling locally, or vice-versa.

8-15% a day
Do we really have to believe this?

Believe what? What is your point?
8-15% daily profit. It's insane.


I don't believe that one bit lol

fucking hit back somehow after doing all the math so annoyed, TLDW ( write it) 8% is the general over sell from an exchange to a localbtc in my area and we're in bearish times, I would expect 15% is hit on more bullish days.



2041. Post 9022608 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: Boxman90 on September 29, 2014, 10:51:23 PM
Cheap coins people!

Too bad you'll look back at that as being way too expensive in a few days.

uh... so you really think we're going to break 340?



2042. Post 9022834 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol



2043. Post 9022856 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on September 29, 2014, 11:22:45 PM
Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol
Soaked it up mostly, there where big dumps there and okcoin.

see no spikes on the volume charts at Huobi

guess it was as you say soaked up in the regular volume.



2044. Post 9023015 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on September 29, 2014, 11:36:44 PM
...
well idk, looking at volume again now... hmm idk... wtv, if china ran 10% above stamps, stamps would fallow, and if stamps ran 10% lower then chain chain would fallow...

I take it back, they all follow each other...
Does my head in too Smiley Looks like they've found bottom though, guess it comes down to being able to move fiat out if that's the case 'cos I don't think that whale has much use for yuan.

Usually bitstamp is dwarfed by the volume of the Asian exchanges, I mean it's easily explained by more 0% trading exchange in China. So my original statement of Huobi volume was that no1 made plays on the stamp move it somewhat followed perhaps arbitrage bots .. not really thinking too deeply atm.

I hate being so tinfoil hat mode that that I was about to be happy about seeing more chunks in 10s 20s the odd 50s then people buying 300+ btc chunks.  Same people could just be buying in smaller chunks Sad

I would like to believe small frys are taking bites in the cheaper prices.





2045. Post 9023130 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

using interac online I get nicked with a 1.50$ deposit fee for 500 daily limit @ CaVirtEx ...would be interesting to see if Circle works via the same interac network and the fee structures for Canadian users.



2046. Post 9024851 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on September 30, 2014, 04:15:39 AM

Hasn't your fiat been about to hit the exchange for a week or two?


3-5 business days, my ass!

His fault he didn't wanna try the interac method but time has been kind to Adam no reversal just yet.



2047. Post 9025452 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: podyx on September 30, 2014, 04:47:43 AM
I'm actually considering if bitcoin is slowly dying out

Hashrate is declining sharply like never seen before

https://blockchain.info/sv/charts/hash-rate?showDataPoints=false&show_header=true&daysAverageString=1&timespan=1year&scale=0&address=

you sound quite butt hurt, is it tax season?



2048. Post 9031974 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: keithers on September 30, 2014, 05:44:14 PM
I think we can get back to $400 within a 7 day window.   I really don't understand the reasoning behind the downward pressure we have been seeing lately.   Who has run the numbers on the cost to produce 1BTC (through mining lately)?   It has to be close to a loss right now, correct?

Failed rally to break through 700 left us looking weak to whales. So they dump as it been an easy play.



2049. Post 9036506 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.17h):

Quote from: stan.distortion on October 01, 2014, 12:11:59 AM
(Not religious btw , but at the same time , all hail Hermes the God of Wisdom! and the hermetic truths, some say that maybe Abraham learned and formed his mysticism from Hermes, and from whence the Abrahamic religions Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were born (and twisted from the "Hermetic truths") anyways... whatever I say, I just like reading)

Well, the connections between religion in the ancient egypt and our todays religions are obvious ;-)

You should read some of the stories about Osiris, Isis and Horus and it will remind you on some other stories  Wink



Toth aka Djehouti is a deep myth, a lot of shitty esoteric around him.
Typical, we end up with the censored version Sad

lot of em come from Samaria



2050. Post 9038126 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: nanobrain on October 01, 2014, 05:53:56 AM


Peter, you post an interesting and highly plausible situation although my travails through the BTC eco-system have made me pretty cynical -- you are putting Mark's actions down to misplaced stupidity and part of me would like to believe this is true.  I never made any claims to know the motivations or machinations behind the mess.

But who knows for sure -- it may come out in the wash, the 'truth' (whatever that is) may never be known.  Greater and more powerful men than Mark have fallen due to hubris rather than simple incompetency.  


stupidity, naivety and hubris are some big downfalls of humanity.



2051. Post 9038198 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

first dump of october for me



2052. Post 9047869 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: empowering on October 01, 2014, 10:41:27 PM
Whoa!  So many depressing cliches packed into a single line of text.  Economy of language Smiley

of course my guru I respectively look towards your greatness for the answers to these woes... also I know a few other people that might need your number...  Cheesy

Thanks for sharing the above opinion ( Empowering's economic outlook ) . We're ultimately like the kid watching a horror film covering his eyes with his hand with a big enough gap to see some of the scary part, we saw the fright that awaits us back in 2008 and all we did was keep the hands up but closed the finger gap a little tighter. This in my opinion is just due to the lack of analytical thinking that the majority of society takes part in. Lot's of people are all hopped on the "Hollywoodism" and IMO financial crises don't hit the hollywoodism attention levels till it is literally too late to do anything about whats been happening. I just hope again tax payers don't foot the bill to bail out/in these reckless governments and financial systems. The idea we believe things are too big to fail is scary, perhaps you shouldn't allow something to become so big that if it fails you could destroy an entire nations economy at the least if not the global economy ... hows that for an idea on regulation.



2053. Post 9047938 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 01, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
what happened in 2008?




 Cheesy

the rich got richer... sadly




Sad



2054. Post 9047983 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 01, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
what happened in 2008?




 Cheesy

the rich got richer... sadly




Sad

but how?
isn't it the rich people the ones with investments in the stock market?

Adam I know we're playing this game right now just thought I'd confirm it.

My best understanding is they sold, did a lil hodl, then bought a shit tonne of undervalued assets. Probably most heavily in real estate and commodities.

I mean I know people who bought real estate in the U.S ( I'm Canadian ) because it was so ripe for the picking ...if you had cash Cheesy



2055. Post 9048015 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 01, 2014, 11:18:19 PM
i know the government is propping up the markets so everyone feels rich...

but wouldn't everyone SCRAMBLE and make shit happen if they felt poor and wanted to be rich again

i think they made a big mistake.... for some votes or something stupid like war and oil.

but where would they get all the cheap labour? I mean Canada is rife with contract work...such and ugly way of getting out of paying benefits to workers.

 I imagine a society like a pyramid...how can you constantly short change the bottom bricks and not expect them to crumble oh wait the top of the pyramid has parachutes who cares :S



2056. Post 9050535 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: Raystonn on October 02, 2014, 05:58:28 AM
The Huobi bid walls are real, btw.  A portion was eaten.  But the rest remain.


I don't know if you are talking about Stamp or Huobi in your other posts above but given the volume over the last hour on both exchanges, I don't think you can divine any sort of reversal or even a change in sentiment.  It seems like the usual story of more sellers than buyers.

I don't have access to the bid/sum ratio (anyone?) but the walls on btccharts.com look like a stalemate at best.

You're watching BTCChina?  That exchange doesn't really contribute much to the overall picture.  Look at Huobi on bitcoinity.org and watch that and Bitstamp on bitcoinwisdom.com.


btccharts.com doesn't mean btc china the exchange.




2057. Post 9052275 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):


i can hope



2058. Post 9059153 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: Torque on October 02, 2014, 02:33:15 AM
Whenever the market stops on some completely arbitrary price like $385 and fixes there, with no market activity whatsoever, I know we are close to another random dump.

The foresight.



2059. Post 9061978 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: bassclef on October 03, 2014, 04:15:26 AM
Investors getting out of DOGE. Was a nice pump, sad that I totally missed it.

Rule #213 of altcoin trading: Don't buy after three strong waves up. Each Bitcoin bubble had three strong waves up before reversing. Fibonacci numbers and all that.

Rule#1 be on the twitter pump team chikun. lol jk I was just remembering the discussions of how the one Chinese Whale dude started the Doge pump.



2060. Post 9062091 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

walls moving up above 405? on stamP?

edit: nm looks more like 380 range just has a bunch of staggered walls.



2061. Post 9072180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 02, 2014, 10:12:12 AM

i can hope

what cha'll worried about DanV was calling for this Cheesy in the flat correction call.



2062. Post 9072250 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: CoinThinker on October 03, 2014, 10:08:30 PM
How low can we go?

To be honest - we are already lower than I would have thought...

Exactly to ZERO. As you can see there are no big selling walls at all, no large sells or higher volume as usual... It simply nobody wants to invest his money in Bitcoin anymore because:

1. For every human being with a functional head on his neck it is very clear that pushing down the price, and then that magically will raise anyway can't and will NOT work forever; one of the falls will be a non-reversable fall, and there were so many already, that the risk of this is going to be the real one, is getting higher and higher; so speculators and get-rich-quick whales are pulling off, liquidating their bitcoins and stay away from this market in the future.

2. Market lost it's confidence in Bitcoin (exactly because it can be manipulated so easily). Can you imagine that a 10.000 BTC "wall" would actually mean only 3.600.000 USD? Can you see the devastating effect if somebody would raise such a big wall? Price would drop faster than you can possibly imagine. This means that whenever anybody wants to shut down Bitcoin (let's say the US government), they could make it anytime they wish.
Now imagine fiat, namely USD. Try to "dump" 3.600.000 USD to manipulate dollar's value... it's a joke, you can't.

I really believed in Bitcoin, and I feel sorry for it. I still hold a few of them, and I keep telling myself from the 600 mark that I keep it, I keep it, I keep it... Now I see that it would have a very smart decision to sell that time, and I know that they will remain in my wallet forever, because they will become worthless... it's just that I don't sell for this price, because I am a sentimentalist fool... but if I would have more brain than heart then I would sell them ASAP.

so much butt hurt commentary everywhere.. my gosh..no wonder were in bear mode lol



2063. Post 9073007 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: fonzie on October 03, 2014, 11:25:15 PM
280-320$(2000 CNY) seems dobale. This won´t stop @ 340$. Too much panic(stop-loss) will activated around there. BTC-E already broke it. Buyers have left the building. Bear traget has not been reached).
Good night and good luck.

Still long or already shit out and sold?

No longs right now. 50% cash, 50% BTC.

There will definitely a bounce somewhere, i just have no idea @ which price that will be.

300 ema at @330 usd bitsamp is my guess. That still requires another wave of panic dumping. Think I am going to buy a coin now and one then if its bounces.



2064. Post 9073018 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: gnode on October 03, 2014, 11:30:48 PM
Okay here is a theory for comment.

What if a fund is cashing out for tax purposes because today is the end of the fiscal year?

If so, tomorrow or Monday they start buying it all back.

If this is true and they are on the West Coast of US, then the dumping will stop in about a half hour.

only creedance I can add is someone speculating on fiatleak numbers was saying USD/BTC was @ higher volume than YUAN/BTC



2065. Post 9073409 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 04, 2014, 12:04:14 AM
If bitcoin survises that fucking 2014 I'm happy enough.

we can only hope.

Why so butt hurt? stop losses are a mandatory for people who become this butt hurt.



2066. Post 9073697 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: MrPiggles on October 04, 2014, 12:59:51 AM
Actually glad I sold now.

I sold majority of my stash at $380, figured the downtrend would continue.

Just waitin til I feel right and i'll buy back in

wonder if people are really trying to realize loss, so they can buy back in lower after taking less of a hit from the IRS (taxman) all the while speculating as well.



2067. Post 9073895 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

Quote from: Schickeria on October 04, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
Looking at daily rsi I doubt, that it will go a lot lower. The 200s are for now very unlikely. Maybe after the next upswing  Cheesy

Why is China back to leading..

and why do you gotta jinx it :S LOL



2068. Post 9074702 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

debating on whether I wait to deposit tomorrow ..or if I'm going to miss the price range...bulltard problems



2069. Post 9075440 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.18h):

wow cavirtex. with 1100 btc wall never seen so much volume ..eugh



2070. Post 9077425 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Quote from: fonzie on October 04, 2014, 10:47:07 AM
6000 BTC down to 340, 6000 BTC up to 470 @bitfinex

People are pulling their asks and market sell.

That may be the case, but it is still impressive. If someone start buying strong we are going to see green fireworks. People shorting at this level are playing with fire...

True, but this orderbook condition, especially on Finex, is existing since weeks. Beside the Paypal bull-trap no one made an attempt to execute an short squeeze.


Not yet. But short interest is rising considerably. Soon it will become profitable to turn the trend on it's head. I was hoping it would come sooner but I expect a burst of selling causing a flash crash then an incredibly high volume reversal followed by sustained buying. This may be followed by a big bear trap and then further heavy buying until the shorts are burned. And before you ask where the cash is going to come from, it is from the people who have sold literally tens of thousands of coins in recent months to drive the price this low.

I am aware of this and totally agree with you, sooner or later it will happen, and it will probably be fast and brutal. I just have no idea in which price area it will be.

You buy a coin in all the price areas and you can say you knew lol



2071. Post 9080253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

The 340 wall is literally the 300 meme hold.



2072. Post 9080341 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 04, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
The 340 wall is literally the 300 meme hold.

I said 320 330ish for reversal yesterday testing the 3rd chart 300 day Ema .. but I can only hope



2073. Post 9088018 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

The bubble charts are hilarious, I don't get how we've gone public with such a small user base. I'd be glad if this bear cycle allows people who were super interested in bitcoin to re visit it.

The silk road crash made me do just such a thing. After knowing about bitcoin since it was worth.dollars.  Growing pains. Easily argued I should be worried so many are being lured to dump into some accumulating coins on each waver down.



2074. Post 9088081 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Also as a more bullish view taker, this is no regular crash this is what Tera spoke of and warned. I did not heed such truths. However it saddens me a market sentiment to be bearish could be so strong without a flaw in bitcoin itself, it would be required a stupid large portion of our user base to have been day traders.  

That and these crackpot theories.

Front running of traders on the long squeeze

Chinese trader front running miners dumping anD a long squeeze

And what's to fear the short squeeze requires such a strong upswing it would be so obvious betcha seasoned bears didn't flinch on the Paypal news or those with more info the  others.



2075. Post 9088201 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Quote from: TeeBone on October 05, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
4 bitcoins for a grand ? Who would've thunk that in january.

Not sure if this crash is to shake weak hands or attract a new batch of weak hands to rape. But let's be real I'm a bull and you can tell demand is not meeting supply. Which for the most part is making shorters money as they  gain more coins they're just playing the song wonder what happens when the music stops.



2076. Post 9088282 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2iauh9/ohcc_exchange_partnership_and_the_fractional/

Thoughts.  Bear markets is completely manipulation? Little far fetched but not crazy by bitcoin terms.

I feel like pigs have been slaughtered looking at the huobi 1 min charts



2077. Post 9088644 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on October 05, 2014, 09:54:32 AM
Bull-tards still not accepting the reality.

Were fully accepting it. I think you don't appreciate how many bulls have gone bear.



2078. Post 9088685 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

https://www.tradingview.com/v/ipICZoOf/ wow this is pretty interesting play it out to now. I'm willing to imagine a 280 bot 2x what I paid last October.



2079. Post 9088705 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.19h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 05, 2014, 10:09:47 AM
Who is actually making money out of this market?

Exchanges  Cheesy

Uh shorters ND swing traders



2080. Post 9092205 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 05, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
https://www.tradingview.com/v/ipICZoOf/ wow this is pretty interesting play it out to now. I'm willing to imagine a 280 bot 2x what I paid last October.

I'd take 275... this manipulation or bearish sentiment is insane to me..not to say the bears weren't thinkin I was insane since last Oct.



2081. Post 9098095 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 05, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
https://www.tradingview.com/v/ipICZoOf/ wow this is pretty interesting play it out to now. I'm willing to imagine a 280 bot 2x what I paid last October.

I'd take 275... this manipulation or bearish sentiment is insane to me..not to say the bears weren't thinkin I was insane since last Oct.

triple self quote since, no1 has responded to this. I gotta (secretly not just a proud hodler but bulltarded) believe this is the bottom...my friend who felt he missed the rise last year is thinking of buying now.



2082. Post 9100424 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Whole wall gonna sell?



2083. Post 9100537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Reversal engine thruster go.



2084. Post 9100749 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

But you said it was deadd.....

Lol

Back to Fridays price level.



2085. Post 9100908 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: micalith on October 06, 2014, 07:58:43 AM
This here makes sense to me:

more interesting is the coinbase lack of coins - this possibly tells us the miners who they buy from are now close to or below cost of production and are no longer selling OTC, forcing coinbase back to exchange and needing to move fiat back to bitstamp or others. This is more indicative of a floor than any large wall on stamp.
Don't expect a stellar rise though - once the price rises enough the miners will be back to dump their coins.


So sideways-ish for the next 2 months or so

3600 is nothing, it is just 12% percent of a wall that just got munched.  Thanks for being a cud bear tho

So much ignoring and Fonzie has been making more sense then the despair bears left



2086. Post 9101030 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: gizmoh on October 06, 2014, 08:18:21 AM
The market bought on hype and now it will correct itself

That wall was eaten by 100 and 1000 coin bites. Hardly your average market players.

1000's of new Bagholders that will panic cut loose if another early adopter divest.

So butt hurt . That or youre just bitter

It be reasonable to say following some high volume sub 300 we should expect some profit taking from people who caught knives.



2087. Post 9101104 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: aclass on October 06, 2014, 08:26:21 AM
Yes, whoever bought from that wall deserves to make some money. They took risk and it should be rewarded.

Now all those 30k coins will diversify on the other exchanges.

not just that, it delivered confidence to hodlers, but as a side note I think were watching a battle for a green 1d candle, lots of people are enjoying buying sub 320, and then some people buy up to the walls near 323. I would expect a continuation of dumping if we fail to buy up and secure 330ish

this battle started pre 30k wall, as btc-e bitfinex and huobi wer already near the 330 marks, however for all those fucks who over the summer claiming it was so boring..you better be awake and have popcorn in hand, I spent the entire weekend as such enjoying the roller coaster, learning how much I believe in bitcoin and not only its fiat price.



2088. Post 9101127 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):



Nice timing as they buy up to 330, to be hit by a manip dump to slow the push.




2089. Post 9101377 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

I keep reading things like the downtrend won't end , essentially beartardedness in reverse of to da the moon, to the grave. If people have clearly identified we've been in bear mode why would they just throw fiat at it unless they themselves we're whales. From my stance its pretty obvious the recovery won't happen till a bigger player splashes, and the sheeple feel confident in a reversal.

I also think about how many people are here for swing trading.. and how many for a 5yr out look...both are valid strats. However I am just left hoping that lower prices hasn't peaked more swing traders to jump aboard.



2090. Post 9101562 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

The Battle for 330 foot hold has begun,  drag stamp up other exchanges do itt! lol



2091. Post 9101626 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: fonzie on October 06, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
Good morning , wall seems to be gone, and we are 10% up after it:




Cool

Has he bought his own wall aka 1-2000+ BTC buys in the end?

I hope you know I've be lauding your rather refreshingly realistic and accurate sentiment.

I hope phase 2 will be the short squeeze by a whale on the bears, thinking bulls still have heads stuck in the sand.

But don't get me wrong I know we're on thin ice, only takes one or two to cause a stampede of panic. So one step at a time in recovery.



2092. Post 9101635 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.20h):

Quote from: Raystonn on October 06, 2014, 09:51:35 AM
I wonder if this had anything to do with BFL.


think they* forced bfl to liquidate 30k at market? that can't be, auctions get better prices...

or do you just mean the panic behind them shutting down being used to a bearish endgame?



2093. Post 9101881 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

and dumpage



2094. Post 9101931 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

le spike



2095. Post 9101993 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: redjedievolution on October 06, 2014, 10:37:28 AM
That wall at 300$ was the biggest miner on china who must pay electricity bill. He paid and now everything is turned on again  Cheesy Cheesy


I highly doubt he saved 8 days worth of all the coins mined just to dump for electricity but anything is possible...but this is not anything.



2096. Post 9102023 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: macsga on October 06, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
OHCC Exchange Partnership

OHCC is the behind-the-scenes trading that goes on between the big three chinese exchanges - OKCoin, Huobi, and BTC China. Many of the players in this partnership deal with long/short loan trading and freely join their reserves via a trust agreement. The owners of these exchanges were unsatisfied with the meager income they earn from transaction fees, so they came up with a solution. During this current Chinese National holiday til the 8th of october, all banks are closed, this would be the perfect time to unleash the plan to the market..

They noticed that everytime favorable news came out, huge market moves would happen, so, the exchange owners would create counterfeit fiat on each exchange in order to foster optimism about the future market for the buyers on the exchange. Whenever the markets were to go bad, they would to do the opposite. In order to amplify downwards movement on the exchanges, “war bots” were created that push the markets down in an aggressive manner, causing margin calls and generating profit for their trading partners.

http://i.imgur.com/9Q0xTet.png


Well, that sHorts it out Grin
Source:
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2iauh9/ohcc_exchange_partnership_and_the_fractional/

errbody screamed fud when I posted this



2097. Post 9102492 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: macsga on October 06, 2014, 10:47:18 AM
OHCC Exchange Partnership

OHCC is the behind-the-scenes trading that goes on between the big three chinese exchanges - OKCoin, Huobi, and BTC China. Many of the players in this partnership deal with long/short loan trading and freely join their reserves via a trust agreement. The owners of these exchanges were unsatisfied with the meager income they earn from transaction fees, so they came up with a solution. During this current Chinese National holiday til the 8th of october, all banks are closed, this would be the perfect time to unleash the plan to the market..

They noticed that everytime favorable news came out, huge market moves would happen, so, the exchange owners would create counterfeit fiat on each exchange in order to foster optimism about the future market for the buyers on the exchange. Whenever the markets were to go bad, they would to do the opposite. In order to amplify downwards movement on the exchanges, “war bots” were created that push the markets down in an aggressive manner, causing margin calls and generating profit for their trading partners.

http://i.imgur.com/9Q0xTet.png


Well, that sHorts it out Grin
Source:
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2iauh9/ohcc_exchange_partnership_and_the_fractional/

errbody screamed fud when I posted this

I just hope you comprehended my sarcasm... Smiley

that short it out .. is better then sorting the information out? lol

My only point was to see whether or not you think the ideas expressed are valid as in.. organized manipulation of sorts.



2098. Post 9102599 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: macsga on October 06, 2014, 12:00:29 PM
OHCC Exchange Partnership

OHCC is the behind-the-scenes trading that goes on between the big three chinese exchanges - OKCoin, Huobi, and BTC China. Many of the players in this partnership deal with long/short loan trading and freely join their reserves via a trust agreement. The owners of these exchanges were unsatisfied with the meager income they earn from transaction fees, so they came up with a solution. During this current Chinese National holiday til the 8th of october, all banks are closed, this would be the perfect time to unleash the plan to the market..

They noticed that everytime favorable news came out, huge market moves would happen, so, the exchange owners would create counterfeit fiat on each exchange in order to foster optimism about the future market for the buyers on the exchange. Whenever the markets were to go bad, they would to do the opposite. In order to amplify downwards movement on the exchanges, “war bots” were created that push the markets down in an aggressive manner, causing margin calls and generating profit for their trading partners.

http://i.imgur.com/9Q0xTet.png


Well, that sHorts it out Grin
Source:
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2iauh9/ohcc_exchange_partnership_and_the_fractional/

errbody screamed fud when I posted this

I just hope you comprehended my sarcasm... Smiley

that short it out .. is better then sorting the information out? lol

My only point was to see whether or not you think the ideas expressed are valid as in.. organized manipulation of sorts SHORTS.

FTFY! Grin

Hey here in Canada, it almost time to put our shorts away Perhaps we're to blame for this reprieve in dumping



2099. Post 9102673 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: podyx on October 06, 2014, 12:10:48 PM
So I see that the wall has been removed
There is no buying pressure anymore now??
Bid/ask ratio is looking nasty Undecided

what wall? only wall of talk lately was eaten.

also china punching in to 2070.. 2100 gonna fall before lunch?



2100. Post 9102710 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: Torque on October 06, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
So I see that the wall has been removed
There is no buying pressure anymore now??
Bid/ask ratio is looking nasty Undecided

what wall? only wall of talk lately was eaten.

also china punching in to 2070.. 2100 gonna fall before lunch?

Anyone who feels that either 'buy' or 'sell' pressure in this market over the last 2 months is because of participation of Average Joe public buyers/sellers is completely out of their mind.

sorry if lunch as a time frame sparked whatever point youre trying to make?



2101. Post 9102752 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 06, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
The ask side looks bad.
I very much doubt we will go up much more.
This bear market is far from over. And i have no idea what could fuel a bull market any time soon.

your tears



2102. Post 9102837 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: Torque on October 06, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
So I see that the wall has been removed
There is no buying pressure anymore now??
Bid/ask ratio is looking nasty Undecided

what wall? only wall of talk lately was eaten.

also china punching in to 2070.. 2100 gonna fall before lunch?

Anyone who feels that either 'buy' or 'sell' pressure in this market over the last 2 months is because of participation of Average Joe public buyers/sellers is completely out of their mind.

sorry if lunch as a time frame sparked whatever point youre trying to make?


Sorry if you lack the comprehension of my point?

I am but a simple hodler, and so I pray someone will connect the dots for me between my post and yours.



2103. Post 9102971 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: Involution on October 06, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Is it possible to drop again at the 275 lvl's or lower? because i am waiting a bit more, my fiat is ready Smiley

it all depends on when you plan to sell, etc and your strategy. I've been waiting since Friday to deposit some Fiat but I did miss the low on my exchange by 56 dollars because of it. Doesn't mean it won't come back down, some people suggest staggered buys below market incase it starts dropping and maybe just watch for more signs of a reversal before panic.



2104. Post 9103040 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/why-bitcoins-tumble-probably-doesnt-signal-its-demise-518448353

no way mainstream is TRYING TO CALM PANIC looooool I've seen it alll



2105. Post 9107188 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

wish I just bought some coins at 309cad eugh was in to much shock



2106. Post 9107582 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: michaelGedi on October 06, 2014, 07:53:12 PM
http://youtu.be/8cVlOWwsKgo?t=14m50s
Amir Taaki, goes ate shit thinks big on Keiser Report.

Anybody know where to buy that shirt? I need that shirt so bad.


he really has zero introspective abilities doesn't he...

he doesn't realise that no matter how passionate he is and how strong he feels about certain issues and ideas, legitimacy is important if you want to make impact and to have people listen to you. If you are going to purposely disregard the fact that people have programmed opinions and prejudices and not give a shit about how you come across because of that, you're just an idiot and you're shooting yourself in the foot and fucking with your big principles for the sake of very minor principles.... and everyone you work alongside and speak on behalf of.

as I type this he hasn't stopped... sounds like a high dude at a squat party Smiley

Watched until 17 min and he seemed level headed . Perhaps reference the time he becomes unruly for others



2107. Post 9112634 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: samsonn25 on October 07, 2014, 06:29:26 AM
WhatsApp has over 600 million users, at $30 person value thats 18 Billion market cap.

If Bitcoin had even 60 million users at $30 person value is only 1.8 Billion, so it seems over valued now?  

are you being silly... 60 million people using bitcoin atm would mean almost no1 having a single coin... depending on distribution but really a terrible comparison



2108. Post 9113437 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 07, 2014, 08:09:38 AM


Now, you seem to be talking your book... and once you buy back in, you will fix this kind of language, hopefully?  It's a bit charged to be throwing out the "nearly a ponzi" language.... b/c that is nearly total BS.


There are a lot of overhyped, overvalued companies that get investment, and go for round after round of seed money, and often time the only purpose of an investment in a business is the hope they'll raise more funds later on and thus make their stake more valuable.  If the only purpose is to increase income then I think that is nearly a ponzi, isn't it?

For one thing:  Bitcoin is NOT a company, and the infrastructure and the space of BTC is much too complex and too many people involved in order to be characterized as a ponzi scheme.  Even if you attempt to suggest that the earliest 100 or 1000 adopters are trying to get rich off the rest of us b/c they are just trying to cash out and there is NO value in BTC or the infrastructure.  Those kinds of characterizing would be totally misplaced.

Now maybe some of the companies within bitcoin could be ponzi schemes and some of the alt coins could be ponzi schemes b/c they are small and tightly controlled and sometimes scams and schemes....   but Bitcoin is not the various companies or the related companies or even some of the corrupt and greedy people within the space.



I just believe that you should know better than to engage in such loaded and inaccurate assertions regarding the nature of bitcoin, and you lose credibility when you employ such loaded and inaccurate language.

On the other hand, there are a lot of reasons that you could argue that you believe the price of BTC is going to continue to go down, but arguing ponzi scheme (or "near" ponzi scheme) is way out there and only triggers emotions based on incorrect facts/characterizations rather than making a more accurate assessment.

Anyhow you believe what you believe, and if you truly believe BTC is a ponzi scheme or a near ponzi scheme then you certainly will want to be careful about whether and/or how much to invest.

Relax buddy

Quote from: MrPiggles on October 07, 2014, 07:30:44 AM
btw I wasn't calling btc a ponzi at all, I was referring to the venture capitalists and their stakes in zero revenue tech companies with high userbases.

I wanna see how low this dump can go, where the people sitting in Fiat jump in



2109. Post 9113474 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

ta'ers does the 30 min huobi chart count as having an inverse h&s ?



2110. Post 9113525 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 07, 2014, 08:22:46 AM

Relax buddy


Can you be more specific?

You misundertood Piggles, I quoted where he clearly said he wasn't discussing bitcoin but the insane way vc investors are valuing high user apps or platforms ie whatsapp instagram etc



2111. Post 9113533 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Hold 2000 cny hOLDDD I say



2112. Post 9113541 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 07, 2014, 08:25:30 AM


Now, you seem to be talking your book... and once you buy back in, you will fix this kind of language, hopefully?  It's a bit charged to be throwing out the "nearly a ponzi" language.... b/c that is nearly total BS.


There are a lot of overhyped, overvalued companies that get investment, and go for round after round of seed money, and often time the only purpose of an investment in a business is the hope they'll raise more funds later on and thus make their stake more valuable.  If the only purpose is to increase income then I think that is nearly a ponzi, isn't it?

space saving for page # futures hedge *

Dude you totally missed my point i wasn't talking about bitcoin I was talking about tech startups with unmonetized user bases who go for round after round of seed money


O.k.... I may have been drinking too much coconut juice.   Sad    We can leave it at that, then.

for sure man it happens, I once went off on you for not re reading what you said.. it was closer 700-800 usd I think Cheesy It's been a hectic weekend and an interesting Monday.



2113. Post 9113651 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: mmitech on October 07, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
And oh, just look at the larger holders and early adopters shitting their pants @ twitter and in this forum, it is a hell of fun watching fear tearing the shit out of them.

Do you have links? I have not noticed this fear.

snip


just remember the bull market runs on your tears, you're just fueling engines.



2114. Post 9113723 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: mmitech on October 07, 2014, 08:44:49 AM
And oh, just look at the larger holders and early adopters shitting their pants @ twitter and in this forum, it is a hell of fun watching fear tearing the shit out of them.

Do you have links? I have not noticed this fear.

snip


just remember the bull market runs on your tears, you're just fueling engines.

I will cry even more if this will save your asses.... and I will do it for free.

I guess I can let you can save those you perceive as having invested too much, I could lose all of what I've invested and be alright. I've seen mutual funds lose more value following the 08' housing bubble then this and the mistake most made were panic selling at the bottom lol.



2115. Post 9113786 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

The longest I'll wait on a reversal to buy extra coin is 400 cad , but I'm willing to let another wave of bearish love swoon the markets in to sub 300...I don't want that but the bottom isn't obvious till it is obvious. The 339 bottom held strong but was crushed to a new of 275. I just find it odd that the bearwhale either thinks that people are playing ew counts and want them to believe the next wave is coming after this rebound, otherwise I would've expected a lot more dumping once breaking 300 altogether.



2116. Post 9114328 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: MrPiggles on October 07, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
huobi 1h double top, 1h macd cross

blah blah blah

if ta was actually accurate then why aren't you a billionaire yet?

Let's play nice now, I was hoping 330 could hold, and mainly only true in China but EW analysis would still allow us to move up and in to the final bear wave...I can't wait to see if there is any truth to the Oct 15th tax deadline for the States...see if its manipulated in to a fake breakout followed by final(couldbe) bear wave.



2117. Post 9114813 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

give it time, if new blood is going to join they always do it late. I started re thinking after seeing the 80 dollar sr dip, saw it 100 and finally bought by 140. Time is important, probably less lag than last year where my exchange was backlogged until Dec verifying accounts.



2118. Post 9114844 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: mmitech on October 07, 2014, 11:18:12 AM
Told you so!

you are just wasting your fiat ammo.

just play his game and profit!

people who bought yesterday will be selling again in few days and this will create even bigger pressure.

not really everyone, however what I think you mean to say you believe the majority of people buying coins weren't cultists catching knives, and are going to succumb to selling and buying back when the dumps re-occur?  I bought at 450 and 420 cad, avg in was 540 cad before hand, and I really think I'll buy again before it can get above 400 cad, I don't sell cause I feel I'd fuck up the timings and it may be a poor reason but its the truth. I don't mind giving my money as support to the bitcoin price discovery phase, ultimately I believe it will help us reform financial systems if I have to lose some value so be it. I just don't see that being true in the long run.



2119. Post 9114876 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: tarmi on October 07, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
Told you so!

you are just wasting your fiat ammo.

just play his game and profit!

people who bought yesterday will be selling again in few days and this will create even bigger pressure.


not really everyone...


you are right about that. not everyone will sodl.

I for one have already sodl for a nice profit.

tis a legit play, no denying that.



2120. Post 9119926 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: findftp on October 07, 2014, 06:45:48 PM
People, price is about to go moon.
I sold some at 298 and placed a buy order at 184.
Usually this means price will go up immediately.

People, I would like you to thank me.
Thanks to me the price stopped getting lower.
Right after the moment I sold the price went up.

I do accept donations. Look at my profile page, the address it there.

I could need a few satoshis to fix my loose

How does ones sidebar status have the next  bubble to begin between Sept 25th nd Oct 25th and lose faith to sell sub 300. I hope it was still at a profit.



2121. Post 9131049 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

I love to imagine bears getting slaughtered the way bulls did for the same length of time. I would love to see a slow grind to he ath. After that da moon.



2122. Post 9132000 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: njcarlos on October 08, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
I like the continuous to the moon talk even if it is total bullshit because that creates new money.
It does but, when done with poor timing in a correction, it also creates a lot of negativity because people start to lose value pretty quickly. That can just as quickly start a cycle of negativity that actually inhibits new money.

I think you under estimate the big money waiting to buy when people are in pure panic and fid that brought us here. Trends gotta play out but also have to end.



2123. Post 9132180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: inca on October 08, 2014, 06:32:37 PM
I think you under estimate the big money waiting to buy when people are loving the pure panic and fid that brought us here. Trends gotta play out but also have to end.
These plateau-like intervals, in my opinion, is the big money. I think they're the only reason the decline as been so tame. They're buying at certain price points and averaging on the way down. Likely buying up to some allocated amount, and then stopping. Which causes sideways movement and eventual sliding/dumping. I don't expect them (or want them) to sustain any one price. They'd lose money doing that, anyway. They've been losing a shit ton of money as it is.

I think the trend change is going to catch you out..

I dont understand how he thinks this has been a tame decline. But don't get me wrong I am not shouting this is the reversal as much as it will be a part of it. The only thing solidifying a reversal would be a big short squeeze.



2124. Post 9132271 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: njcarlos on October 08, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
I think the trend change is going to catch you out..
Possibly, but I'm only after a few more coins before I'm done accumulating (in this range). If we sustain $330-360 for a week or so, I'll just buy here and call it a day. If not, I'll likely buy as close to $300 as I can and wait to see what range becomes the next stable support, whether that's in the $200s or $400s, I'm not too worried. I'm definitely not worried about some massive rally into the $600s or higher. We'd need some seriously positive black swan event for that.

If by black swan you mean news then no we don't need that, if you meant a severe change in sentiment shown by buying pressure then maybe.  But the rest of the post was spot on. 400 cad is my next threshold to buy, I missed 309 cause I didn't deposit thinking we were grinding lower to 275 with a slower recovery. 384cad vs 400 is cheap enough to wait out a bear knice that might be the final trap to this trend.



2125. Post 9132327 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: njcarlos on October 08, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
I think the trend change is going to catch you out..
Possibly, but I'm only after a few more coins before I'm done accumulating (in this range). If we sustain $330-360 for a week or so, I'll just buy here and call it a day. If not, I'll likely buy as close to $300 as I can and wait to see what range becomes the next stable support, whether that's in the $200s or $400s, I'm not too worried. I'm definitely not worried about some massive rally into the $600s or higher. We'd need some seriously positive black swan event for that.

I dont understand how he thinks this has been a tame decline. But don't get me wrong I am not shouting this is the reversal as much as it will be a part of it. The only thing solidifying a reversal would be a big short squeeze.
I consider it tame because it's been over the course of about 8 months. If it was within a 2 or 3 month span, that'd be violent, imo.

Yeah  but  thats not how capitulation happens in bitcoin



2126. Post 9132912 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.



2127. Post 9132979 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on October 08, 2014, 07:47:34 PM
@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from his letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.

Ah, got it thanks. I'll just leave you with this then.



I'll see you there Cheesy



2128. Post 9134445 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: hmmmstrange on October 08, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Canada, "No regulations for bitcoin, and will revisit it in 5 years".

Sounds good to me.

tuned in on the them saying Andreas had lived up to his Bitcoin guru status.



2129. Post 9134500 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: DaRude on October 08, 2014, 10:16:21 PM
Bitcoin looking mighty bullish. What gives? Tongue

$ deposits finally hitting the exchanges, shout see more of this till the weekend then .... Huh

I dropped my next $500 cad on my exchange. about 500 a week for the last 3 ..couldn't resist



2130. Post 9134860 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Quote from: MICRO on October 08, 2014, 11:02:53 PM

I wanted to close all tabs where i can see btc price and try to guess it judging by the posts and images on this topic Cheesy . But chartbuddy would kill the fun of guessing Cheesy .

simple ignore chart buddy Cheesy



2131. Post 9137739 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

interesting push Cheesy munchyy



2132. Post 9137777 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

panic buys or organized short squeeze?



2133. Post 9146155 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

last sell had some panic to it, everyone thinks we have to hit 320 or lower before we can leave for blast off ( in elliot wave charting worlds especially )

but imo shorts closed, and new ones reopened instantly on the spike to 394 facking oh well, recoveries have to be a bit weird.



2134. Post 9149548 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

I'm starting to believe in the reversal...I mean it is possible the whale is just trying to get as many people to believe that so he can knife right through the book causing panic but I dunno...that just seems like a useless strategy to employ at this stage.



2135. Post 9152558 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

if its a repeat we'll pierce 355 and bounce/

but I really don't know what the market wants to do anymore it's fun to just watch it unfurl.



2136. Post 9157886 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 10, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
Who is ready for a weekend rally?

I'd be happy with sideways, but I'd rather see a shirt squeeze



2137. Post 9158171 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

Quote from: WeltMaster on October 10, 2014, 10:26:14 PM
If no dip, stability in a cup-handle is major bullish and confirms the trend reversal. Shorts will be squeezed.

More a v shape then a rounded u...wouldn't make major moves off that alone



2138. Post 9159387 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

0.05 sells and buys have been tested put rocket bit in to orbit.



2139. Post 9162903 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

Quote from: abercrombie on October 11, 2014, 11:43:52 AM
Why did the buying pressure suddenly stop? People were buying like crazy. What happened?
Oh wait, idiot scum traders were dumping on everyone who dared to buy and take the price up.

Well done on killing possibly the last uptrend of the year within 2 days.

Traders are Bitcoin's cancer.


National holiday yesterday (Friday) for Bitfinex's bank in Taiwan and bank holiday (Columbus Day) in US on Monday should choke incoming FIAT to the exchanges till Tuesday.


thankfully some people have interac online e payment options available..and though its a 500 daily cap, it still lets you deposit on non traditional banking hours.

Canadian Thanksgiving this Monday lol Cheesy



2140. Post 9163134 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.22h):

Quote from: shmadz on October 11, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
Why did the buying pressure suddenly stop? People were buying like crazy. What happened?
Oh wait, idiot scum traders were dumping on everyone who dared to buy and take the price up.

Well done on killing possibly the last uptrend of the year within 2 days.

Traders are Bitcoin's cancer.


National holiday yesterday (Friday) for Bitfinex's bank in Taiwan and bank holiday (Columbus Day) in US on Monday should choke incoming FIAT to the exchanges till Tuesday.


thankfully some people have interac online e payment options available..and though its a 500 daily cap, it still lets you deposit on non traditional banking hours.

Canadian Thanksgiving this Monday lol Cheesy

I tried that option for the first time just yesterday, not sure how long it took as I went for lunch and when i got back the money was there, definitely less than two hours.

Do you know if it's like seconds? Minutes? Half an hour?

on my exchange its instant, cavirtex. So far 4/4 instant after making the payment through one of the banks they work with.



2141. Post 9168752 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 11, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
Now is your chance to sell with no slippage weekend dumpers.

fuck it market buy all the bitcoins



2142. Post 9168791 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: YogoH on October 11, 2014, 11:03:17 PM
Did that buy come off the wall?

think its there still 29xx at 360.09 or something like that



2143. Post 9172337 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on October 12, 2014, 08:18:56 AM
Bid wall seems real. Someone took a decent bit out and it hasn't been pulled yet.

gone as in eaten alive



2144. Post 9172403 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

300 day ema on 30 min chart keeps rejecting dropping 353-55ish wonder if we get that final down swing ew count trader tout is due,



2145. Post 9178882 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: Sumerian on October 12, 2014, 09:59:34 PM
UP UP UP WE ARE HEADING UP! Breaking 400 in the next 48 hours is a possibility!

I think it'll go idle at 450

it really depends it could be a trap before the final wave down as the EW traders would have us believe. I'd like it to not be manipulation of the weekend market, cause sustained buying through till Monday could ignite some real momentum.



2146. Post 9178969 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on October 12, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
LOL I looking smart buying 2 BTC at 280 a week or so ago.

Of course keeping an close eye on it just in case i need to exit, but then I will just by lower again.

in theory..if you get burned buying back higher on a huge spike your either losing the profits and or just getting left out. So make sure you got  buy back limit orders while waiting for the cheap coins.



2147. Post 9179521 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

cup formed will the handle follow with profit taking?

4h stamp

I like the look of the 1week candles for arbitrary reasons



2148. Post 9179583 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

1500 or so in short covered in the last spike http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php



2149. Post 9182072 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: Davyd05 on October 12, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
cup formed will the handle follow with profit taking?

4h stamp

I like the look of the 1week candles for arbitrary reasons

what say you observers? is the cup more of a saucer Cheesy



2150. Post 9190161 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 13, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
My condolences if you are still short.

Didn´t you say that you put up new shorts yesterday?  Changed your mind? Lol Wink

Even bulls are bears now. Isn't that depair yet?

that is what it takes for a reversal, switching sides...utter despair and disbelief. And..



2151. Post 9194274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php so about from 12700 last night to 10700 tonight, another 2000 in short closed  bout 1500 last night buying flurry.



2152. Post 9194397 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

640 market sell on finex maybe more shorts closing.



2153. Post 9194439 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: kryptopojken on October 14, 2014, 06:53:36 AM
640 market sell on finex maybe more shorts closing.

you mean longs closing?

correct you are,



2154. Post 9195135 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.23h):

Quote from: bassclef on October 14, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
We will see what happens at $440. But you are right. Orders can always be pulled. It is just an indicator, not a tight rule. Out of curiousity: Why $440? Because there was a resistance  in 23.9.? Because there was a support at 18.8.?

Yes that is correct. Also 440-450 is the neckline of a larger head & shoulder reversal. There is an increased chance that the price will bounce back to 400 or so before resuming up, (only if there is enough volume). Also if there are enough profit-takers, you may get your $420 resistance :8



think new money panic buys will confirm ccmf bull run but at least this reversal is rolling



2155. Post 9217606 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.24h):

shorts are at a low for the receent history , 10.1 k guess people we're expecting a really harsh spike down.



2156. Post 9248896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

I think everyone is expecting a coil pop to the end of the bear market. Lets just be calm and enjoy the weekend with popcorn in hand.



2157. Post 9261357 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php spike down on longs and shorts.. Cheesy check it out on the middle graph Cheesy



2158. Post 9261651 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: seleme on October 20, 2014, 06:44:07 AM
I fucking hate this market condition, no fucking chance to chart or anything this. They do whatever they want and we just participate like sheep.

What did we expect, we attracted big moneys attention and not everyone is a bull on bitcoin Cheesy



2159. Post 9261741 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: seleme on October 20, 2014, 07:10:16 AM
I fucking hate this market condition, no fucking chance to chart or anything this. They do whatever they want and we just participate like sheep.

What did we expect, we attracted big moneys attention and not everyone is a bull on bitcoin Cheesy

I don't quite care if bull or bear, just hate this 10$ range trading with zillion fakeouts.

 I blame big money for that factor, they can jump in when they want nowadays relatively easy, picking up coins OTC and selling on exchanges just for arb if need be. 

Bull or Bear isn't super relevant just that bullwhale and bearwhale play just washes the small fry away in the wave.



2160. Post 9261938 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

and counter bearwhale dump lol
?

and all the exchange react Cheesy



2161. Post 9262695 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: podyx on October 20, 2014, 09:33:16 AM
Was huobi wall pulled??

I believe this is so, from my earlier witnessing of near when it disappeared , looks like a set of stairs now.



2162. Post 9270300 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 20, 2014, 09:51:22 PM
I used apple pay today, if only bitcoin were so simple.

We are getting there slowly though

Sarcasm detector malfunctioning...But yeah what was simple about it?



2163. Post 9271154 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: hyphymikey on October 20, 2014, 10:58:55 PM
I used apple pay today, if only bitcoin were so simple.

We are getting there slowly though

Sarcasm detector malfunctioning...But yeah what was simple about it?

I'm just hoping one day bitcoin apps are as easy as apple pay. I bought something from walgreens today by just putting my phone near the register, doesn't get any easier than that

I find that more or less to be banking and existing business relationships. Which no doubt apple is much more well established then btc. However time can change all of that.



2164. Post 9271366 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: spooderman on October 20, 2014, 11:39:57 PM
Ever noticed how people continue to argue with other people after having ignored them?

Also, that's a pretty nice list you got there.

I do admit, I read quoted trolls to often.



2165. Post 9276148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: spiderbrain on October 21, 2014, 10:16:59 AM
Can the madness go on forever ?
The US has already exceeded one of the three classic precursors of hyperinflation. Japan, Europe and China aren't too far behind, However, because most of the money is nominally  sitting in shares (US) property (China) government debt (Europe, Japan) it's all holding together. Once people start trying to liquidate I suspect it will all turn to custard surprisingly quick.

Don't worry, crypto will be here to pick up the pieces Smiley

yeah like when suicide hotlines numbers get posted on /r/bitcoin I am sure the financial distract sees some shit the day the big whales decided to liquidate and watch it all get ripe for the picking.



2166. Post 9276911 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

Quote from: AizenSou on October 21, 2014, 12:02:02 PM
Volume is totally absurd these last days, doesn't look like an accumulation at all. Any reason, the experts?

where on huobi?


stamps volume isn't that crazy.



2167. Post 9285908 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm



2168. Post 9288150 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

can huobi test that damn wall again Cheesy



2169. Post 9299363 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.25h):

did it not only drop 15 bucks? why are we flipping our lids ..however I'd like to see proper drop instead of the manipulated ones, It seems more or less a bunch of shorts close at 8-12pm on http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php then dumping..to what encourage shorts to reopen?



2170. Post 9307981 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Oddly shows shorts down compated to the place they were following the first set of drops.

Do shorters think this is the bottom of the current retrace.



2171. Post 9310345 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: Torque on October 24, 2014, 03:08:47 AM
Why am I not surprised to still see sub-400.  This market is just ridiculous.  It seems apathy is setting in now, even with people who were once bulls.

I guess no one even cares to buy more now?

i've been buying on dips
double my target holdings in the bear market, as it at the least lowers my average buy in price.



2172. Post 9313785 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on October 24, 2014, 12:02:57 PM
Shorts down to 8500??? Looks like bears are starting closing their positions.

Yeah Ive been watching that. But cant tell if this is a bear trap developing or luring for the final bull trap.



2173. Post 9320037 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/100831839452/response-regarding-lawsuit

Never used their services but I'll admit the amount of pr before actually serving  the lawsuit is suspicious.  Similarly to way they made Ross out to be someone who orders contract hits.



2174. Post 9320096 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

We can all agree the safest place for your coins is your storage. I would like to see some people trying to withdraw there coinz from cryptsy, as this shit isnt supposed to be fractional reserve so bank runs shouldny matter.



2175. Post 9320113 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: fonzie on October 24, 2014, 11:23:54 PM
http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/100831839452/response-regarding-lawsuit

Never used their services but I'll admit the amount of pr before actually serving  the lawsuit is suspicious.  Similarly to way they made Ross out to be someone who orders contract hits.

Is there any site where i can make bets if they go down within the next 3 months?  Cheesy
Lawsuit+Coinexchange = almost guaranteed death.
Most(all) of them had shady operations in the past.
It´s almost ironic but i think that the only true anonymous (and most shady) exchange "BTC-E" will probably stay alive longest.
 

Except is the claim of one person representes by a law firm with a scare tactic pr stunt. Im not defending cryptsy and would advise anyone with worries to remove funds or coinz but to assume there doomed on this info is sheer fud.



2176. Post 9320271 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 24, 2014, 11:50:58 PM
http://fortune.com/2014/10/24/bitcoin-fraud-scam/

This. It is actually a decent commentary in that it calls out some scams but is supportive of blockchain technology. A bit vapid, but pretty practical and on point.

This is the bearest thing ever!

If Bernie Madoff and People like shawn merrimen havent turn the fiat financial system to shit then these frauds are but hiccups and serious lessons for the future users about proper control of keys.



2177. Post 9323280 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

esse sold at 800+ he's just chalk full of the I made the right call hubris if memory serves. I guess he's entitled to poke fun somewhat.

or was that sandia.. hmm sorry if It's a mix up.


Either way bfxdata not showing me shorts vs long wonder what is going on.

Edit and its back i see they went up a bit since the morning.



2178. Post 9323576 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: redsn0w on October 25, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
I'm waiting the $250 value , is it possible or not   ? What do you think guys ?

wait and watch why not/ a reversal will be obvious.. seemed obvious the last bounce from 275, but buying momentum was still two weak to the outpace the overall downward trend completely.



2179. Post 9323592 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: klee on October 25, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
http://blog.bettercrypto.com/?p=916


seems odd that it took a day for this to get posted.

edit: <3 trezor We wonder why bitcoin developers and bitcoin foundation have been as usual utterly negligent about security so that this patch has NOT YET BEEN applied in bitcoin core software for like 18 months since January 2013. The fix was already applied by many companies such as Trezor, but not yet by bitcoin core client. Why?
Blockchain.info also uses a ridiculous method of asking the web browser to generate random numbers which opens avenues for attacks.



2180. Post 9323810 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: redsn0w on October 25, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
I'm waiting the $250 value , is it possible or not   ? What do you think guys ?

wait and watch why not/ a reversal will be obvious.. seemed obvious the last bounce from 275, but buying momentum was still two weak to the outpace the overall downward trend completely.

You're right , now it is a time to "watch" . I don't want to risk  and lose my money.

I've been buying , I just feel like bitcoin is way to misunderstood, and only time can help that.. why would I give up on it...I mean I guess we should be greedy but I didn't invest because I thought it would make me a millionaire, I invested just enough that I wouldn't feel stupid about not investing anything if it does succeed the way I think it can.

However at this stage wait and see can't hurt too much.



2181. Post 9324021 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

and shorts shoot back to 11k , I assume the next days will be rough, if it this isn't a serious bear trap.



2182. Post 9324415 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: Pala_00 on October 25, 2014, 11:36:17 AM

we can only hope, and wait patiently if you're a die hard hodler.



2183. Post 9324462 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: abercrombie on October 25, 2014, 11:39:43 AM
Good news everyone!  Trend reversal!  Huge green candles in 3 min MACD!!1!



dead cat bounce brah...

got trolled brah



2184. Post 9324545 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

no denying the consumption of coins on okcoin... blah blah faked volume blah blah, I think it is easily argued that it is inflated by lack of fee per trade ... but we'll see where this goes.



2185. Post 9330182 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: findftp on October 25, 2014, 11:09:47 PM
When the panic buys come and there is no Mt Gox to sell fractional reserve coins, how much faster will the price rise?

Interesting angle.



and no China to fake ban Bitcoin
But Russia instead



only thing we should worry about letting governments ban is access to free water.. man I fear for the people of brazil already having a rough go due to a drought that measures almost a year or more now.



2186. Post 9333109 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: dropt on October 26, 2014, 08:06:06 AM
Nice buy wall on stamp to compliment china's momentum.  Whats with all these middle of the night movements lately?

It's not the middle of the night everywhere   Wink

I just want to see a legit short squeeze
I want to see them burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn



2187. Post 9333374 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.26h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on October 26, 2014, 09:06:35 AM
mmitech, I'm pretty sure you were one of the bulls who ridiculed me when I was bearish this year before you switched gears at 600, and now I think you're risking (well, it's not really a risk if you don't engage in shorting) getting stuck in the polar opposite.  Roll Eyes

we go up $10 and you all get excited and start posting train pictures, then we go $20 down and you start trashing bears....same is  happening since $417 (the top since the $275).
Yeah right, I am the one trashing people. It's actually you who has been doing that for a long while, and it's pathetic. "Da beaaaars", "da buuuuuuulls", what's up, are you lacking some sense of identification/belonging?

And I've never posted any stupid trains either, but apparently you know all about me. Cheesy

I've been around since last Nov. and I've never been offended by the way you share your opinion Blitz...mmitech however is on ignore...and reminds me of a tabloid front page.



2188. Post 9341537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

@jonoiv

I dunno why people won't believe your call for a rally of sorts, last time we got faked out by the 6hr was the end of September. Either way at least it's not another voice screaming bitcoin is dead, while it being more then twice its value of the past year.



2189. Post 9341744 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

Quote from: jonoiv on October 27, 2014, 03:03:19 AM
Ok so here it is...

sit back and watch the show

im here watching



2190. Post 9343158 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

if someone is accumulating they swap from huobi and okcoin
the volume is rather large during these phases.



2191. Post 9350596 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

I see shorts hit 20k last, then cause there was no dump or pump came back to near 18k.. lol I just wish a bullwhale would show me a margin call on shorts. Haven't we seen the effects of 3 or so long squeeze on btc-e and finex already..



2192. Post 9364201 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

12k dildo on okcoin.. and growing Cheesy



2193. Post 9364331 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.27h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on October 29, 2014, 03:00:54 AM


sent more to cold storage



2194. Post 9387390 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

Quote from: grappa_barricata on October 30, 2014, 10:02:04 PM
ehm... we got a bit of a situation here

like 900 coins bought at 346 lol @finex



2195. Post 9387678 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

Quote from: fonzie on October 30, 2014, 10:31:43 PM
This is so much fun to watch  Shocked Cheesy Cheesy

and the 1900 coins sold on finex. so confusiiiiiiiingg



2196. Post 9388253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

dem longs shot up like a  the shorter switch the direction of his expectations



2197. Post 9399578 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 01, 2014, 12:31:12 AM
Don't know if already posted, but the big and historical mining pool BTCGuild shuts down on government regulation:

Pretty big news...


http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2kwmhd/btcguild_shutting_down/


"it is a scary landscape to continue operating in"

If it leads to more people creating a larger p2p pool I'd be ok with this trend. mind you I dont know the whole stability/vulnerabilities of a p2p pools.

Quote from: eleuthria on October 31, 2014, 08:42:16 PM
BTC Guild Shutting Down Likely Being Sold

Earlier today, a news post was made identifying that BTC Guild would be shutting down on January 31, 2015. This post is still available in its entirety on the Bitcointalk forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg9395478#msg9395478).

Just hours after making this post, multiple parties have expressed strong interest in purchasing BTC Guild and keeping it running. As a result, the previously announced timeline for closure of operations has been cancelled, and the site will likely continue without interruption.




This was just updated on the BTC Guild website after it was clear that it is almost certain that BTC Guild will not be shutting its doors.  While I may be ending my watch over the pool in the coming months, it will continue.

from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg9397724#msg9397724



2198. Post 9401297 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

there is some down, via China.



2199. Post 9405478 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

And all I see on Chinese exchanges are.. huge green dildos at the bottom of each dump run.. man just keep letting the big players swallow up coins and empower them. I can only hope more that want to hodl bitcoin show up. We're strife with wall street like greed and day trading it seems. However I mean that's just cause I am a perma bulltard at heart, and can't see anything but the world  embracing the god that is crypto. As they say if you build it they will come, and it has been mentioned numerous times this year has seen the greatest VC influx in bitcoins history.



2200. Post 9405642 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

Quote from: abercrombie on November 01, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
Bitcoin has been following classic TA patterns.  Double bottoms, double tops, etc...

As unfathomable it may seem and based off charts alone, we should hit high 100's.  

If even, just for a flash crash dip.

Somewhere in my mind this only occurs if we have enough new blood buying on the way down, while we divest our holdings to them fully knowing a large portion of despair bulls will buy back on large volume reversals. Therefore creating a pump, but that's just a sleepy thought.



2201. Post 9411954 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

The neverending dumping. speculation so cray. Rocks himself to sleep muttering "its only.accumulation"



2202. Post 9412130 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

and while I wasn't watching the hashrate jumps back up 300k gh



2203. Post 9420600 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.28h):

atleast 2020 is giving a good fight,  I wonder how long it'll hold before a dump comes along. I'd sure like to see more bullish actors Cheesy

Stamp seeing some nice smaller buys, wonder if we just have day traders, noticing a small trend  open a long or short and pushing the limit action to the max it has ... then it all fizzles out and repeats.



2204. Post 9431081 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

eating lots of coins, the Huobians'



2205. Post 9440458 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

Since I sat down the Chinese broke above 2k. This flip flop on the 19xx and 20xx yuan is killing me.. I'd just like for the market to have a new direction of up Cheesy However nothing leads me to believe this will change till the bears feel the price is closer to their perceived value....



2206. Post 9440500 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avFq9errZCk Bulls be like..got the coin going up on Tuesday, got china in the cut on Wednesday.



2207. Post 9441167 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

hardly, that was the weakest profit taking retrace I've seen. Hopefully we just go choo choo



2208. Post 9442468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

China just loves unleashing high volume positions about mid day there. Sooo not cool.



2209. Post 9442528 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

Quote from: DaRude on November 05, 2014, 06:12:13 AM
China just loves unleashing high volume positions about mid day there. Sooo not cool.

Good, real exchanges are digging in at ~$300. China keeps showing dumps with huge volumes, but no one is following and instead we're finally getting decoupling. I wanna see that gap grow!!!!

more and more the dumps are being eaten maybe by a Chinese bull that or the support is growing for the dumps that are expected.

arbitrage will keep that gap tight, so be they can move money where it is needed.



2210. Post 9443070 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

Quote from: bassclef on November 05, 2014, 08:01:51 AM
Looks like sellers have exited the market for now and demand has taken over in the short term. Although a possible retest of $300 is not out of the question, it's become less likely. More likely is a test of $400, then another shakeout of shorters who will inevitably be drawn back in as we move up toward that resistance.

I bought at the $300 wall back at the selling climax. Today I added to my position based on a renewed uptrend based on coin supply that has been sold to smart money who are happy to buy at these prices. What will follow in the the next month, after a final shakeout or two, is a markup campaign by the same big players who have been quietly accumulating during this sideways movement. This will draw in more money as the cheap coins are sold to them, and the cycle will begin again.


I hope this to be truish...I'm not big on markup campaigns.

No point in watching huobi with anything but the god dam 1 min charts.. love watching whales splash around.



2211. Post 9443479 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

really trying to breakout?



2212. Post 9443644 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

I guess the volume of the upcoming dump will show the hands of the whales, was it another short pump target followed with volume dumps and bottom rebuys Sad



2213. Post 9464576 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.29h):

Quote from: adaseb on November 07, 2014, 05:56:57 AM
I am selling some more in this area. Already covered a few days ago at a nice profit.


Nice short covering it seems.

both occurred, but more longs are being re-opened.



2214. Post 9485671 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

I could enjoy a weekend rally, what are the Chinese up to this afternoon.



2215. Post 9485692 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

Quote from: KFR on November 09, 2014, 07:49:41 AM
See my sig.  Cool

Cool agree, we shouldn't let them. I've done my part already though.



2216. Post 9486997 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

Quote from: tarmi on November 09, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
much dumping on bitfinex.  Kiss

cmon bulls, we need more fuel for desperation.

someone just closing their longs



2217. Post 9495981 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

..i got my wish, made it to monday with no major dumps..however they could' be just setting up bulls with a different trend to dump into.

Mind you it is also always testing the the sentiment.



2218. Post 9514484 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

sideways following up got bulls, biting our nails Cheesy



2219. Post 9514699 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

Also anyone else listen to the okcoin dude on some internet radio/podcast posted on /r/bitcoin.

3 billion euro hedge fund trading on their exchange he claims.



2220. Post 9514771 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

And the Chinese got us moving again.



2221. Post 9514838 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

Quote from: podyx on November 12, 2014, 02:02:34 AM
CMOOOOON YOU BITCH!!!!!!

Where's your target for taking profit?

I'll be riding leveraged long all the way up kid Cool

relax dude.. the market is heartless.



2222. Post 9514968 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.30h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on November 12, 2014, 02:25:32 AM
Oh no. It's a train pic.

That's sure to lead to a minor correction which will in turn lead to sinking ship pics.

 Grin

then china broke 2310 Cheesy



2223. Post 9525806 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.31h):

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 12, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
Where the f*** is Adam?
Admin of Silk Road 2, second in command.




Just kidding, I don't know  Grin

Let hope he's put us aside for family and will be back with his anxious posts following price movements.



2224. Post 9528511 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.31h):

Quote from: souspeed on November 13, 2014, 06:23:08 AM
pretty annoying, was gonna buy last week but couldn't find any quick easy way to buy in Australia while avoiding the 10% GST, circle's credit card option didn't work either.
Exactly one year ago I had similar story. The only option was bank wire (to MtGox Smiley), it took an extra week, and during the week the price had doubled Sad

same here with Gox, it actually took 14 days to clear and price rose 500% in that time :/


This lag actually contributes to the bubble...
Waiting for your money to arrive while the price significantly increases makes you willing to pay more than you initially would have...

Liiterally I got verified and bought near 330 @CaVirtEx after using LBC at 143.50 and the exchange was swamped with verifications from oct till late dec. But I'd prefer healthier run ups then last year.



2225. Post 9529317 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.31h):

the bull market will require more power, but its growing.



2226. Post 9531203 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.31h):

or that dump was the first bear trap of the bull season? who knows?



2227. Post 9548757 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Quote from: podyx on November 15, 2014, 04:51:18 AM


No.

I'm simply trying to explain that there is no spoon.

Can you please be serious and explain cuz I have no idea what just has happened, and lost alot of money for no reason at all

you never go full retard?

tighter stop loss? fuck da margin?



2228. Post 9548843 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

I was waiting for a drop, if you bought at 275 - 300 you'd be super tempted to take profit on such a sharp spike... even in reversal mode there would be a likely retracement.  



2229. Post 9549372 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Bouncing off the 300 day ema three times now new local bottom. Wonder if we can hold 420 next weekend.



2230. Post 9557615 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Anyone discuss the huobi bitvc issues? That spike in China hurt some traders.



2231. Post 9557628 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Welcome back Adam.



2232. Post 9559498 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 16, 2014, 11:24:30 AM

MMM, the company created by Sergei Mavrodi that ran one of the largest Ponzi schemes in history, is a Silver Member of The Bitcoin Foundation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mgi7w/well_known_ponzi_scheme_become_silver_member_on/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

With friends like those, does bitcoin need enemies?


Jorge you could do this for days with the regular banking industry why not warn people of both



2233. Post 9575537 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

I can only assume post tards become dumptards. Its make me giggle that w3 go as far as having post dump3rs. 4 page's were dumped during this one post lol



2234. Post 9576173 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Keeping dumping it encourages buying of bitcoin lol.

on other notes, the coins from DPR ..what do they go for at 50k ? Bearwhale ammo? or Bullwhale hodl?




2235. Post 9577638 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Quote from: gentlemand on November 18, 2014, 03:00:58 AM
It is funny because they are treating the page number like the price of Bitcoin. /Ralph

My theory is that there's a warped character out there whose heart is set on either $1000 or $10,000 on the 10,000th page. If that is the case then we could be floating around for rather a long time.

had to have a lot of posts, prior.... how many posts per page? or is it variable to size of posts? could just divide your post count in the thread vs post per page limit



2236. Post 9579943 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Quote from: jeezy on November 18, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
So the dump yesterday evening was an immediate reaction to the 50k BTC put up by the Marshalls again?

and..post dumping and auctions annoucement, and 5k in shorts closed up again.. and we're at shorting lows again, small fish shorts still around have bearwhale shorters left? waiting to see if the market can breakout or breakdown?



2237. Post 9580485 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.32h):

Quote from: jonoiv on November 18, 2014, 11:42:49 AM
do you guys believe we are going to sub $300?

What a fucking troll!!!!!!!!  You ask nearly the same exact question again and again and again.. and you add NO substance or analysis..


What the fuck do you think is going to happen?  You probably have as good of an idea as anybody else, so why don't you share your opinion, to the extent that you can present it without those pie in the sky outlandish ideas.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue Tongue

don't let him get to you Smiley

sub $370 is a joke, and the joke is on the sellers and the shorters that haven't closed them yet.  I simply can't believe some people are selling at these prices.   But some people seem to have less balls than a Eunuch...

Just a matter of waiting for the whales to get their fill of suckers, then back up we go.

I swear your rhetoric has changed.. perhaps with the market.

however bfxdata showing shorts continuing to close. dunno what kinda play this is to be honest.. insert spiderman meme.



2238. Post 9589894 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.33h):

Quote from: podyx on November 19, 2014, 09:24:36 AM
Wow, going down again...
Who could of guessed Roll Eyes

ShroomsKit was right.






 Grin

man that spacing almost got me...............



2239. Post 9627711 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

negative difficulty, haven't seen that projected for a time.



2240. Post 9635910 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Welp good thing I went to bed. 12 hrs passed nd no 10k



2241. Post 9636055 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

Quote from: Patel on November 24, 2014, 01:57:48 AM
in on 10001

until a post dump comes along...you might be right where you want to be for like 10 minutes.

@ 9:24 pm est dst we experienced a page dump that placed me on the 10k page.. 10 minutes from now where will I be.

@ 11:04 pm est dst it is now page 9992 lol



2242. Post 9636136 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

We'll at least it recovered a bit over the weekend, seems constant counter intuitive plays.



2243. Post 9640536 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.34h):

It happens about once a day, so at least we got this to look forward to Cheesy



2244. Post 9678797 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.35h):

new rule for calling YTL, is quoting your last YTL quote lol



2245. Post 9697147 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

some more hashing power coming back online, 300kgh/s again



2246. Post 9704468 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: podyx on December 01, 2014, 05:27:58 AM
Rally time??

looked and saw a green dildo forming



2247. Post 9709673 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 01, 2014, 05:59:38 PM
This is eerie. 380 feels so good, but they might slaughter us tonight with this volume.

Realistically 380 isn't doing anybody any favours apart from very, very early adopters.


That's just bat shit crazy.. had I got all in on my planned investment amount @ 140 instead of averaging in.. I'd be up 280 a bitcoin and that is just last October.. all this does is remind me about that time I didn't risk 2k on a mining computer when they were worth dollars.. which reminds me I wish I even grasped speculation at that point.




2248. Post 9722451 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: grappa_barricata on December 02, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
Guys better be real about this... What part of India are we talking about? The cities? They probably understand bitcoin better than us... The villages? They just got electricity, better wait a bit for bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRb7_ffl2D0&feature=player_detailpage#t=491 despite not having a computer themselves at this time, they figure out technology quickly, and share how to operate the computer with others.



2249. Post 9736021 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Double bottom in hashrate// perhaps someone has decided the end has come for their equipment. Wonder when the next set of more efficient machinery comes online, besides testing from the manufacturer.



2250. Post 9736164 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: Totscha on December 04, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Double bottom in hashrate// perhaps someone has decided the end has come for their equipment. Wonder when the next set of more efficient machinery comes online, besides testing from the manufacturer.

i'd say Coindesk says around 2nd quarter 2015

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-decline-sparks-rare-mining-difficulty-drop/

There, I fixed it Wink

welp its not like manufacturers of asics have nailed there self predicted launch dates lool



2251. Post 9736515 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: shmadz on December 04, 2014, 10:26:29 AM
Double bottom in hashrate// perhaps someone has decided the end has come for their equipment. Wonder when the next set of more efficient machinery comes online, besides testing from the manufacturer.

I bolded the part I'll reply to.

We will not see any large efficiency gains moving forward. Everything from here on out will be incremental at best.

From CPU to GPU was a big deal. From GPU/FPGA to ASIC was a big deal.

From 65nm to 28 to 20... it's just incremental gains.

is it really incremental in terms of gh per watt , joule w/e it is?  I suppose it is so.



2252. Post 9736715 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: hdbuck on December 04, 2014, 11:17:41 AM


So, I'd anticipate a spike when the price is announced.



there will be no announcements about the winning price, just speculations.

...


time to test that 360 wall I guess.

I even know that. Not really sure why I wrote that. I meant when the winner is announced.

There is not going to be any official annoûcement about the winner too..
Mates you wonder if the auction is real.. Roll Eyes

One of the winners, especially Draper, will announce if he won, though. Also, if there are multiple winners, we'll be able to track the movement to multiple wallets. So, it's not like we are flying totally blind on this... just sort of blind.

Yea right.. Didnt i told you guys i won the previous auction?! ^^

sup Tim



2253. Post 9741253 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Blitz. Id be inclined to think that theyre dime a dozen kind of folks.



2254. Post 9741606 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.36h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 04, 2014, 08:24:16 PM
Blitz. Id be inclined to think that theyre dime a dozen kind of folks.
Right, I chose the wrong phrase. I meant to say they're the same type that obsess over 1m charts, wasting their mental energy.

Chill. It's just entertainment. It's the 4 and 6 HR charts that I primarily use. Playing small swings on the 15 min charts just generates fees for the exchanges, not profits.

I wonder how soon SR auction coins could be dumped on the exchanges? Hypothetically, of course. I don't think anyone has ever flipped auction merchandise for a quick profit.


responding to the bolded statement, that would require acquiring them at below market value, not impossible but I am not sure anyone with that kind of money is thinking quick flips. perhaps, but I'd like to believe every decision was played out like a chess match for them.



2255. Post 9742081 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on December 04, 2014, 09:35:36 PM


Wow!!!!!!!!   If that's true, then that is surely a small number of bids.  27 bids for 20 lots?


I may have to revise my thinking based on that news if it were true.

yes but maybe someones 1 bid was for 10 blocks @390

bids vs bidders? I would assume 27 bidders = open to bid on all blocks.. still a decent amount of action to compete with if so.



2256. Post 9745991 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: solex on December 05, 2014, 08:50:09 AM
china apparently does not give a fuck about the auction.



Yep.

But billy...did he close his shorts yet. Will China try and mwke him eat them



2257. Post 9746632 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Dumpers and pumpers waiting on confirmation of results or something. Where is the insiderrr infooo lol



2258. Post 9746761 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Would you look at that hash-rate decline.. does the difficulty dropping not make it easier for some older hardware to stay online.



2259. Post 9747268 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

https://twitter.com/dan_pantera/status/540669052797341696 we can just chillax till the price gets leaked some way.



2260. Post 9748125 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Right buy at 373 @ finex and sell for a loss at 371@stamp.



2261. Post 9748788 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: bitebits on December 05, 2014, 03:21:44 PM
Bidding closed for US Marshals #Bitcoin auction.  Pantera placed bids below the market.  Results out tomorrow by 2pm PST.  Probably earlier.


https://twitter.com/dan_pantera/status/540669052797341696

I wonder why they would tweet this. If Pantera does get the bitcoins, this tweet would hurt them. The bitcoin price is likely to take a dive as a panic reaction.

Why do I have the feeling that the next tweet is going to be: "Pantera did not get any coins". You can guess the outcome.

Auctions IMO generally end under a common market price, the fact we have large institutional investors bidding over each other to hodl bitcoins amazes me, that and anyone who thinks this would be bearish.



2262. Post 9749924 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Why not buy a coin yourself, instead of demanding the winkelvi buy up all the coins not being hodled already.



2263. Post 9751971 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 05, 2014, 12:50:23 AM
2280 breach on HooBoy. Bulls gettin' monkey-hammered. Let the panic, butthurt and recriminations commence! Makin' $$$$$$$$

Uhh tell me hes not sleeping while shorting.  Either way cest la vie



2264. Post 9752116 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

https://mobile.twitter.com/brucefenton/status/540973438899617793

Why do all the tweets seems so hard to decipher today



2265. Post 9755639 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Hmm surprised we don't have a more definitive winner list, or speculation going on. I caught a stomach virus so after 5:20pm est I had to sleep some pain off. Woke at 3am to an upset stomach but a rather stable looking market. Think we have to wait till Monday to get our info?a weekend full of cryptic tweets



2266. Post 9755829 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: gkv9 on December 06, 2014, 08:53:09 AM
Hmm surprised we don't have a more definitive winner list, or speculation going on. I caught a stomach virus so after 5:20pm est I had to sleep some pain off. Woke at 3am to an upset stomach but a rather stable looking market. Think we have to wait till Monday to get our info?a weekend full of cryptic tweets

Ain't there any ETA declared for the disclosure of bids or the winners of the bought BTCs? This time, Tim only got 2000 BTC and he officially announced that... Waiting for the news further...

yeah 2k/ of 50k? seems awful small.. the only thing I was able to derive out that was that Tim was likely to have not such a low bid..but if he's bidding with a consortium perhaps that put certain roadblocks in terms of bid ceiling.

The other 48k to whom? The Draper news seems obscured but maybe my illness has lead me to being lazy on reading. There was bloomberg video with a caption claiming he said he'd have to acquire more btc elsewhere to meet demands....but they're are more auctions Tim.. are you on some sort of time basis we don't know about?

I know we keep seeing posts of 1k+ from last november.. but to see us semi stable above the previous ATH of 266 ( give r take exchanges ) I think bitcoin did quite well for itself for the year, day traders may have got hurt but.. c'est la vie.

Here's to the ensuing excitement of the future.



2267. Post 9755896 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: gkv9 on December 06, 2014, 09:04:16 AM
Yes, according to the post on Bloomberg, they say that Tim has different projects and each of his projects need about BTC300 investment from his own stuff in order for them to evaluate and meet the goals, maybe that's why he still is interested to buy the whole Silk Road stuff if he's able to do so.

Yeah 300btc to each company that goes through his son Adam's Boost VC program. I wonder if they're primarily bitcoin enterprises or just starting to build business via btc injection rather then the cash style.



2268. Post 9755941 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: souspeed on December 06, 2014, 09:09:25 AM
Hmm surprised we don't have a more definitive winner list, or speculation going on. I caught a stomach virus so after 5:20pm est I had to sleep some pain off. Woke at 3am to an upset stomach but a rather stable looking market. Think we have to wait till Monday to get our info?a weekend full of cryptic tweets

Ain't there any ETA declared for the disclosure of bids or the winners of the bought BTCs? This time, Tim only got 2000 BTC and he officially announced that... Waiting for the news further...

yeah 2k/ of 50k? seems awful small.. the only thing I was able to derive out that was that Tim was likely to have not such a low bid..but if he's bidding with a consortium perhaps that put certain roadblocks in terms of bid ceiling.

The other 48k to whom? The Draper news seems obscured but maybe my illness has lead me to being lazy on reading. There was bloomberg video with a caption claiming he said he'd have to acquire more btc elsewhere to meet demands....but they're are more auctions Tim.. are you on some sort of time basis we don't know about?

I know we keep seeing posts of 1k+ from last november.. but to see us semi stable above the previous ATH of 266 ( give r take exchanges ) I think bitcoin did quite well for itself for the year, day traders may have got hurt but.. c'est la vie.

Here's to the ensuing excitement of the future.

He bought 2000 coins above market price...
And I think that he bid on more than those 2000 coins...
Which most likely means the other 48000 coins went above market price as well...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-05/tim-draper-wins-part-of-second-silk-road-bitcoin-auction.html we can only assume he paid above MR cause he did last time, but he didn't bid in the same method as last time. The article says he doesn't disclose his price.



2269. Post 9756612 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 06, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
I like how rumors are actually being developed in these conversations about the price. Then somebody lazily reads one of the posts and then carries it on. Frankly, we don't know what the price on the coins were. Could be up, could be down... I think down, but that's just a guess. What we do know is that the coins went to more than one bidder and maybe quite a few bidders. Some may have even landed in the hands of this guy...


you know how bullish that is, the Joker burns his currencies he's gonna lose the keys foreverrrrrrrrrrrrr wooo



2270. Post 9759131 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.37h):

dang whens the last time you looked at BTCCHINA volume charts, been cray cray there lately



2271. Post 9774204 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

I am going to guess casual fakeout of the 1w starting green. Dumpers like to dump, and too much sideways can lead to said situations.



2272. Post 9774532 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 08, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
The bears are running this shit tbh.
It's not even a real battle.

I think you take for granted the idea that were.. 3x the trading price of summer - fall 2013 ( till bull rally ), accompanied by following a severe bearish leg in 2014 trading nearly a 100 dollars higher the the old ATH of 266. It's okay to feel that disbear...dispair though Cheesy

1w can be green @ stamp a 367. HOLD damn you Cheesy



2273. Post 9774662 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: kodtycoon on December 08, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
The bears are running this shit tbh.
It's not even a real battle.

I think you take for granted the idea that were.. 3x the trading price of summer - fall 2013 ( till bull rally ), accompanied by following a severe bearish leg in 2014 trading nearly a 100 dollars higher the the old ATH of 266. It's okay to feel that disbear...dispair though Cheesy

1w can be green @ stamp a 367. HOLD damn you Cheesy

how do you work that out? and when exactly does the one week candle close?

just go check out stamp 1w https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd and then settings > indicator > macd


 
I believe it just started on Dec 7th so a near full week before it closes,



2274. Post 9781130 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

IMO let just assume the coins were sold Cheesy cause we can safely do that. Fuck Above or below...both sides have lauded each sides reason.

I am just interested in seeing IF the 1w can go green.

I also don't care if bears want to dump us into another bottom, I'll buy more coins near that bottom...I am pretty much past the point of worrying bitcoin is going to disappear over night magically.



2275. Post 9781258 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Sometimes I feel that bitcoin is going to be so huge...just because so many trolls dedicate so much time trying to save us from ourselves.. Instead of trying to milk us for every dollar like a wallstreet psychopath would.



2276. Post 9781304 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 08, 2014, 11:56:26 PM
IMO let just assume the coins were sold Cheesy cause we can safely do that. Fuck Above or below...both sides have lauded each sides reason.

I am just interested in seeing IF the 1w can go green.

I also don't care if bears want to dump us into another bottom, I'll buy more coins near that bottom...I am pretty much past the point of worrying bitcoin is going to disappear over night magically.
Weekly MACD crossovers aren't a good indicator, and certainly not by themselves.

And even though Bitcoin will certainly not magically disappear over night, averaging down is always a bad trading strategy.

Just saying everytime I've done it..it has increased my opportunity for profits.. with bitcoin.. if I wanted to lock fiat profits in.

It's like saying the people who bought at 266, are going to regret avg down on the rebound from 80ish last november. If you thought bitcoin was going to 0 .. then sure..averaging down makes zero sense.


I am lost to why you think weekly macd crossover are not a good indicator of a buy signal.. just looking at the charts.. makes me think that you're not 100% serious with that statement. In regards to bitcoin trading.



2277. Post 9781364 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 09, 2014, 12:08:57 AM
I am lost to why you think weekly macd crossover are not a good indicator of a buy signal.. just looking at the charts.. makes me think that you're not 100% serious with that statement. In regards to bitcoin trading.
Because it has a poor historical performance as far as I see (have you looked at the last signals it gave?), and it's been my experience with the daily as well. Much more important than crossovers are the establishment and break of the zero and signal line as support and resistance.

The june fakeout? which you still made a ton if you bought when the 1w macd bottomed out? at @408usd, stamp, april 13th. Sell after the macd starts decending near july 13 for @608 usd

Due to my permabullish nature as I was 100% noob to TA still am very new. I wish I had stuck with the play I made at 800cad and stayed out on a longer term perspective.. trying to day trade requires a focus I don't have. But these longer term plays are seemingly.. and I really meant that seemingly obvious.



2278. Post 9781409 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 09, 2014, 12:08:57 AM
I am lost to why you think weekly macd crossover are not a good indicator of a buy signal.. just looking at the charts.. makes me think that you're not 100% serious with that statement. In regards to bitcoin trading.
Because it has a poor historical performance as far as I see (have you looked at the last signals it gave?), and it's been my experience with the daily as well. Much more important than crossovers are the establishment and break of the zero and signal line as support and resistance.

It's like saying the people who bought at 266, are going to regret avg down on the rebound from 80ish last november. If you thought bitcoin was going to 0 .. then sure..averaging down makes zero sense.
No, but it can go a lot lower than you imagine (will you have sufficient size to buy with to equal the others if it falls again and again and again?) and stay there for lower than you can imagine. Averaging is viable if you only want exposure and determine beforehand that this will be your strategy for entry, but then it should be bound to progressing time, and not decreasing price.

Yeah, but I am not to say buy as it is dipping. I waited for 275 as a bottom and a high volume reversal started, so I didn't get 275usd.. and because it was Canadian it was close to the range of 340-350+ cad. The bottom at my exchange was 309cad.

I do agree that I have much more to learn and appreciate you taking your time to give me actual responses Cheesy



2279. Post 9781441 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 09, 2014, 12:18:54 AM
What do you mean, "bottomed out"? How do you know if it did?

I thought it was supposed to be MACD crossovers, ie the MACD line closes above its signal line. According to Tradingview, the last time such a buy signal was generated, @weekly, the price closed at 658. Sell signal was 590.

I worded the original buy/sell statement poorly.. and you're totally right that crossover is a pretty poor single alone to buy or sell.

I guess what I am seeing is more or less the wave like pattern, that seems to rarely meet enough resistance..to change. The trend in macd from Apr13 to Jun1 for example shows what I so poorly illustrated for when I'd start taking it as a single for buying. I can agree that it wouldn't be fool proof enough to call TA as much as it is gambling.

Edit: the bullish pressure or perhaps just a pump and dump manipulating noobs with a thought process like me, really ate the pain of the crossover day, as it opened at 658 and closed at 588..

and that my indicator is trying to front run on the momentum that might be building.. again as I think of it all now it sounds like dice rolling. but Really April 13 to may 4th ..would be a signal in my analysis to buy ..and you would've made money if on the crossover being a fakeout.



2280. Post 9781571 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Blitz could be thought of as, if the fundamentals of bitcoin changed adversely.. averaging down wouldn't be a good idea, but if you believe them to have not changed and its just speculative pressure averaging in isn't a terrible idea?



2281. Post 9782459 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

I'm getting hungry watching this.



2282. Post 9782508 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Hasnt dropped to where my order is at. But I got my share of coins on  the last dip



2283. Post 9786530 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Hey billy well played sticking to your guns.



2284. Post 9786798 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Overnight there was.an article alluding to someone from china.com releaseing info on unionpay nd a.disruption of sorts for btc business in china. Turned out to be a rumor. But mightve started. The chinese.moving in the direction they did.

Auction speculation helps a bit. Dumpers waited till coins were sent out.



2285. Post 9788010 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on December 09, 2014, 04:51:01 PM
Hey billy well played sticking to your guns.

Thanks. I think $320 is a false bottom. Even if it is the bottom, it will be tested several times so there is no need to jump on the train the first time. Don't expect help from the BearWhale's millions above $300.

For those of you who say you're holding no matter what- why are you watching the charts? Do you enjoy pain? Let me spare you the suspense: It's prolly gonna creep up enough to give what-ever's left of the permabulls and the naive a false sense of security, and then we're gonna hammer you again.



your question is valid, I am hodling.. kinda of just absorbing as much knowledge, opinion, and bullshit the human brain will allow.

I wasn't being facetious or anything, generally if you make a trade, you shouldn't let us the peanut gallery bullshit you out of your decision and I feel that we're as a group lately being really dickheaded to people and they deserve some credit when due for having balls to stick to the trade, Hey if i stayed out at 800 to 600 cad I'd still be laughing right now.. but I was way to fearful of the train leaving back then.

However I got no issue just holding to be honest, you get a little bit bitter about not maximizing profits but day trading and or trading is not easy and not for everyone.



2286. Post 9788150 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

China was apparently Panic'n over the fake news again..gotta love the quality fud the traders get over there.



2287. Post 9788261 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Torque on December 09, 2014, 05:23:17 PM
China was apparently Panic'n over the fake news again..gotta love the quality fud the traders get over there.

And what fake news might that be?

http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/5245.html

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as I understood it last night, and posted somewhere the gist of my reading comprehension skills at the time.

Someone leaked something from China.com that outlined some sort of issue for Unionpay perhaps servicing bitcoin businesses, and that got retracted as only a rumor before am hit the America's.





2288. Post 9788910 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: jonoiv on December 09, 2014, 06:34:43 PM
@Blitz - How much have you made through BTC?

I wish I knew about it in 2011.



The question should be how much BTC have you made Smiley

I knew about in 2012.. and flubbed it by being too cheap to risk just building a mining computer which I could've used as my gaming rig if worse came to worse.. SO SILLYYYYYYYYYYYY

but I mean who knows how long you would've held etc.. etc



2289. Post 9790629 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Here we are shitting bricks about bitcoin and oil is doing similar and getting bearish outlooks like this https://www.tradingview.com/v/oIgB9dwG/



man I aint even going to sweat it anymore... Blitz is totally right about getting diversification of assets in order, especially when you're riding huge unlocked in profits from a crypto that is still in price discovery.




2290. Post 9790728 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: coinmaster222 on December 09, 2014, 09:45:43 PM
Might help if everybody in Greece paid there taxes instead of running to the IMF every two minutes and the Troika said recently your still not paying them.Thats it blame everybody but yourselves

yeah it'd be nice if their government didn't buy toxic debt from the states...debt probably bigger than the tax revenue.. ever would've been.. and this is just all me talking shit of the top of my head zero facts to back it up.



2291. Post 9790765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

JJG - Perhaps that is what Billy is doing. I saw it as him being open with his position for the most part, I don't see how he's acting like a big shot...but we're all just shouting shit at a wall ..how come we're so out to get him cause he was right? It may have been total luck with the Chinese FUD bomb..but still he was right? Again I hope you and others wouldn't swap positions solely because he was right in this time frame.



2292. Post 9798347 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Welp I am just sitting her confused as to why people think Holidays means everyone is selling their coins to buy stuff with them, its not improbable but I doubt there is the same rush to take advantage of the steep rise of last year. This year bitcoin price is closer to a price where you give the gift of bitcoin Cheesy



2293. Post 9799910 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: jaredboice on December 10, 2014, 07:31:10 PM
annnnnnnnnd Blitz got added to the ignore list.

 Grin

BLITZ Trolling doesnt have that same psychopathic narcissistic feel.



2294. Post 9800138 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: podyx on December 10, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
We already have another looming 100k (or was it 90k?) auction on the horizon thanks to DPR's stupidity browsing his Silk Road admin panel in a public library and not encrypting his Bitcoin wallets. I don't want to consider another 100k Winklecoins.

But if the Winkles have any say in it, they will probably hold off until the price suits them better, and the general trend, because it will strongly influence the demand.

If the ETF will so strongly influence the demand then why wouldn't they hold enjoying large capital gains and, if they really decide they want to get out, slowly sell off some on the exchanges.

bro bro they're already rich..they don't play for chump change, they play to enter a new tier of wealth on a scrooge mc duck levels.

in other news, I'd really love if bitcoin could be accepted by pokerstars....cause paying 5cad for cad to usd fx charges or some beauty of a fee I find on the statement, 3.95 for the anon vanilla prepaid, and the ukash wit the same cost.. I'd rather just gamble and send zero tx fee deposits at them Cheesy



2295. Post 9800177 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 10, 2014, 08:02:42 PM
We already have another looming 100k (or was it 90k?) auction on the horizon thanks to DPR's stupidity browsing his Silk Road admin panel in a public library and not encrypting his Bitcoin wallets.

afaik he encrypted. he just entered a deal thats it.
News to me, so I guess he got milder terms?

Still pretty stupid surfing the admin panel of an online drug market in a public library. I really wonder if maybe he smoked too much of his sellers' good stuff. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ulbricht-defense-criminal-conduct/

I don't think that's really what fucked him over Blitz but to each their own.



2296. Post 9800234 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: phoenix1 on December 10, 2014, 08:12:17 PM
We already have another looming 100k (or was it 90k?) auction on the horizon thanks to DPR's stupidity browsing his Silk Road admin panel in a public library and not encrypting his Bitcoin wallets. I don't want to consider another 100k Winklecoins.

But if the Winkles have any say in it, they will probably hold off until the price suits them better, and the general trend, because it will strongly influence the demand.

If the ETF will so strongly influence the demand then why wouldn't they hold enjoying large capital gains and, if they really decide they want to get out, slowly sell off some on the exchanges.

Blitz is saying that the general trend strongly influences demand for the BTC, and right now, whatever your view, it is very hard to argue that we have a strong uptrend in place. Launching the ETF (if it gets approved) in a strong uptrend is the sensible thing to do . If they launched it now TBH I think it would be a disaster for them and the markets. You don't sell many umbrellas when the sun is shining. I guess some people like to use them as sunshades, but that's probably not the biggest market sector  Wink


I think you're over thinking the launch date.. That's subject to approval by the SEC if they had it they'd be listing asap IMO



2297. Post 9800378 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

I wonder if people sold bitcoin, and shorted old, lol and or just went fiat to buy it at a bottom?



2298. Post 9800407 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: phoenix1 on December 10, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
We already have another looming 100k (or was it 90k?) auction on the horizon thanks to DPR's stupidity browsing his Silk Road admin panel in a public library and not encrypting his Bitcoin wallets. I don't want to consider another 100k Winklecoins.

But if the Winkles have any say in it, they will probably hold off until the price suits them better, and the general trend, because it will strongly influence the demand.

If the ETF will so strongly influence the demand then why wouldn't they hold enjoying large capital gains and, if they really decide they want to get out, slowly sell off some on the exchanges.

Blitz is saying that the general trend strongly influences demand for the BTC, and right now, whatever your view, it is very hard to argue that we have a strong uptrend in place. Launching the ETF (if it gets approved) in a strong uptrend is the sensible thing to do . If they launched it now TBH I think it would be a disaster for them and the markets. You don't sell many umbrellas when the sun is shining. I guess some people like to use them as sunshades, but that's probably not the biggest market sector  Wink


I think you're over thinking the launch date.. That's subject to approval by the SEC if they had it they'd be listing asap IMO


Honestly, I think the whole ETF thing has been over-thought and over-hyped, but we will see. For now, I really don't give damn about it, and think it is a lot further off than people think.

Id prefer individuals get comfortable with bitcoin on their own but the ETF will be a bridge for the less tech savvy.



2299. Post 9802271 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

I honestly feel we will slide with oil,



2300. Post 9803617 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

lol we're showing how desperate we really are as bulls Cheesy right now



2301. Post 9803707 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

LoL maybe bullwhales wanted to burn the shit out of shorters or bears? I dunno the market seems vicious



2302. Post 9803761 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: noobtrader on December 11, 2014, 05:15:42 AM
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

this is great news... wonder how high we will go this time Huh 400 Huh   Grin

way to soon to tell what kind of play this is.



2303. Post 9803818 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

never a dull moment, just sideways and vertical



2304. Post 9803855 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: Newbie1022 on December 11, 2014, 05:29:28 AM
Fuck this, go back down!!!

No keep going up! I entered a long at 366 a few days ago and I almost closed position at a loss today. Glad I didn't. I can see this Microsoft news taking us to 400

Damn, you are one lucky guy. I did a short around the same range and had my gains get eaten up in an hour. Arg, arg, arg... But yea, I'd ride the long for a while. The Western exchanges haven't kept up with China because the time the news hit. This should probably go for a while.

price is 361, on stamp and huobi... unless you mean volume?



2305. Post 9803882 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php

meanwhile shorts were building back up to 10k



2306. Post 9807765 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Welp time to shovel some snow. I dont think the microsoft acceptance has really rolled through the collective mind just yet.



2307. Post 9807988 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

Quote from: hd060053 on December 11, 2014, 03:06:37 PM
how old is the microsoft news ?

I noticed the twitter pics somewhere near midnight est.

So fresh for those who don't check the news every three hours



2308. Post 9809832 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/02/13/emerging-nations-embrace-internet-mobile-technology/

Just saying for those griping that the poor won't end up getting access to bitcoin via tech.



2309. Post 9810550 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.38h):

dumps on Microsoft news, seems so bizarre-o world to me.



2310. Post 9811833 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

http://njpokeronline.net/3366/pokerstars-switch-igaming-money-system-deals-to-come/

LOL who needs microsoft...according to the trolls we're lacking degenerate gamblers Cheesy



2311. Post 9811843 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: macsga on December 11, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
Fuck it. I'm done with Bitcoin. I SODL it all and will follow what this guy does.

I'll even name ma goat LAMBCHOP!!!!


Piss. Goodnite. Tongue

he just got arrested for building a bomb lol.. best of luck Cheesy



2312. Post 9811914 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: macsga on December 11, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Nah, he got away! Grin
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-life-of-instagram-king-dan-bilzarion-2014-12?utm_content=buffer2b5f8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

he was still arrested, he was just not convicted Cheesy



2313. Post 9814859 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

to get quoted....



2314. Post 9821164 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: bastilar on December 12, 2014, 07:41:02 PM
I'm curious to know if btc will be worth it to mine once it halves...

..so 2.5k or something on a miner vs 2.5k in buy and hodl.. your choice but.. the miners haven't been an easy thing to jump into since ASIC's dropped.



2315. Post 9832372 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: inca on December 13, 2014, 11:10:53 PM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/more-than-4400-bitpay-merchants-keep-bitcoins/

10% of bitpay merchants do not convert to fiat.

I have a feeling that number will increase substantially in 2015.

AKA 90% of Bitpay merchants do convert to fiat. See how much worse it sounds when framed in that manner.

Clearly you didn't bother reading it before commenting  Roll Eyes

50% convert to Fiat

40% keep some bitcoin and some converted

10% keep pure bitcoin

I think there will be an ongoing Domino effect from companies like Microsoft adopting bitcoin.

took me 3-4 weeks to buy after sr 1.0 died

took me a 3-4 weeks to get verified,

143.50 ---> 350.xx  was the price I paid for waiting lol



2316. Post 9838560 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: gotmilk_ on December 14, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
Quote
Chinese government official: "Private digital money can co-exist with government money." (self.Bitcoin)
submitted 3 hours ago * by Huobi
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2p92s2/chinese_government_official_private_digital_money/

forget microsoft already...
 
kiss goodbye 350 fair price, welcome 1350 fair price...  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Long position just placed  Cool

I thought we'd see a pump now. Kinda thinking theyll drop that sunday or early monday est time.



2317. Post 9839378 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

so much bull rocket fuel, in one week...please be lag Cheesy



2318. Post 9849344 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: God27 on December 15, 2014, 07:15:17 PM
Why won't xrp stop rising?

pump is still on perhaps don't worry. I assume if they dump it goes right back in to bitcoin. every manipulator has to ride the momentum no matter the market.



2319. Post 9851148 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: Tzupy on December 15, 2014, 10:57:44 PM
Be careful when clicking on links these days:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/some-100000-or-more-wordpress-sites-infected-by-mysterious-malware/

noscript Cheesy ftw



2320. Post 9858712 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.39h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on December 16, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Still relatively confident that Bitcoin will remain above 1 billion market cap.
What do you guys think? Is 1 billion market cap going to hold?

probably wont get too see sub 300, but I am wrong all the time.



2321. Post 9869233 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

find a bottom already bears, I am surprised you have so many coins you'd didnt let go at like 400+ weeks ago. Are you're hands so weak........so so weakkk.



2322. Post 9869316 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

Quote from: samson on December 17, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
316 fell, next horizontal support would be 275.

Out of curiosity Blitz: do you think 275 will hold? There has been a lot of talk about the 270ish level around here, and often it has been called 'the real bottom'. Given the flurry of bad bottom calls of the past 10 months or so I'm very sceptical about that, although there will likely be a major battle around that level. But what do you think?

Second: if 270-ish gets broken, do you expect Bitcoin to crumble down to the high 100's?

HODL  Roll Eyes

should know Blitz's answer to this, 1 billion market cap ftw.

I got some buying to do if that happens.



2323. Post 9873895 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2pmnv6/proof_okcoin_futures_volume_is_fake_xpost_from/ to fud or not to fud



2324. Post 9881622 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

Like the 105.xx buys rolling on stamp, wish it was a bot lol



2325. Post 9917404 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.40h):

Just love looking at the bears dump on that green dildo from China.  Looks like whoever pumped it expected someone to drop those coins in to their bids.



2326. Post 9932180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 07:57:33 AM
the next hour is critical for the future price of bitcoin

the next 2 years is critical to bitcorn  Grin Grin Grin

To pass through 2 years, we need to pass through all hours of the time between now and 2 years from now.


So in certain sense the next hours are decisive for BTC

Stop experiencing time linearly lol



2327. Post 9938937 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: unent on December 25, 2014, 01:58:17 AM
It's a game with positive externalities [... ] the trading game in itself is negative only if we account for the monetary gain-losses, but the overall subjective value gaining by the sum of each agent involved in this game is greater than the netting of their monetary accounts (subjective value begets by an exchange needs to be greater than the objective monetary value involved in order that the said exchange happens).

Well, I agree.  Besides doubling my BTC holdings every day for a year now, I learned a lot of new things from posts and links in this forum, and (believe it of not) from this thread especially.



Hi! If you doubled your bitcoin holdings every day for the past year, and currently owned all the bitcoins that I don't own, you would have started the year with 10^-117 bitcoins and now own 21 million bitcoins.

Perhaps he started off with one sat.

Just a Stolfi troll, since he has 0, doubling just results in a 0. ehhe



2328. Post 9940028 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: Bozuatle on December 25, 2014, 07:02:23 AM
If chartbuddy would stop bumping this thread it could die in peace.

its a bot, not a new bot. Why art thou forsaken our greatest friend.



2329. Post 9941202 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

someone must've got a bunch of miners online for xmas. 310k gh/s again.



2330. Post 9941286 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

http://www.bitell.com/t/2219 Chinese just go ahead and pumpppppppp

oh and I just noticed I am a Hero member. Merry Xmas Forums Cheesy



2331. Post 9944184 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-money-tips-for-2015-2014-12

But Buffett’s problem with Bitcoin isn’t that it’s a tech investment — it’s that it’s not any kind of investment at all, because it doesn’t have value, as he explained in a March interview with CNBC.

“Stay away from it. It’s a mirage, basically. … It’s a method of transmitting money. It’s a very effective way of transmitting money and you can do it anonymously and all that. A check is a way of transmitting money, too. Are checks worth a whole lot of money just because they can transmit money? Are money orders? You can transmit money by money orders. People do it. I hope Bitcoin becomes a better way of doing it, but you can replicate it a bunch of different ways and it will be. The idea that it has some huge intrinsic value is just a joke in my view.”

Read more: http://www.gobankingrates.com/personal-finance/6-things-warren-buffett-says-should-money-2015/#ixzz3MwXTOAlW


I don't know how Warren can identify one of the many reason bitcoin has value in the banking industry particularly and think it has no value loooool



2332. Post 9944227 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 25, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Buffett is a dinosaur, he's too old to appreciate a new way of money.

its mind boggling that he identifies one of the major financial uses of it ... and says a better way of transmitting money... and still shits on it, very contradictory.



Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 25, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
http://www.bitell.com/t/2219 Chinese just go ahead and pumpppppppp

oh and I just noticed I am a Hero member. Merry Xmas Forums Cheesy

I hope you still interact with us....  Wink Wink Wink Wink

I wouldn't dream of leaving.



2333. Post 9944640 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 25, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
It shows OkCoin is the top volume exchange today, probably because the Chinese don't do Christmas. On new years day it will probably be a low volume exchange.

Chinese new year is a whole week of bank holidays later in January.  The last one indeed resulted in very low volume (and low volatility) in all Chinese exchanges.

Do you both know Chinese New Year is Thursday, February 19 for 2015.



2334. Post 9944735 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 25, 2014, 09:46:32 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-money-tips-for-2015-2014-12

[ Warren Buffett: ]  “Stay away from it. It’s a mirage, basically. … It’s a method of transmitting money. It’s a very effective way of transmitting money and you can do it anonymously and all that. A check is a way of transmitting money, too. Are checks worth a whole lot of money just because they can transmit money? Are money orders? You can transmit money by money orders. People do it. I hope Bitcoin becomes a better way of doing it, but you can replicate it a bunch of different ways and it will be. The idea that it has some huge intrinsic value is just a joke in my view.”

Read more: http://www.gobankingrates.com/personal-finance/6-things-warren-buffett-says-should-money-2015/#ixzz3MwXTOAlW

I don't know how Warren can identify one of the many reason bitcoin has value in the banking industry particularly and think it has no value loooool

Perhaps because he figured out one key fact (in purple) right away, that bitcoiners have closed their minds to?

LoL thanks Jorge for pointing out the option of alts to us. You and Warren must be on some similar wavelength of dinosaur, hope you don't end up extinct.



2335. Post 9944825 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on December 25, 2014, 09:57:40 PM


I wouldn't mind being a dinosaur with his all his dollars to spend before going extinct.  But, alas, ...

Alas indeed, however dinosaur thinking doesn't always lead to large amount of wealth...but you can think alike for free.



2336. Post 9944852 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: inca on December 25, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
There's lots of talk about cheap Bitcoins

So what USD Value do you think a Bitcoin would be cheap ?

I know this is going to piss a lot of people off but I will regard Bitcoin to be 'cheap' when it hits about $20 a coin, of course it will still be cheap at $10 but that's irrelevant.

It will continue to work regardless of what the price is.

I know the relentless greed around here will not agree with the above, the world still needs dreamers though.

You are the one dreaming. 500 million dollars has been invested in bitcoin companies this year and you value the entire market cap at 140 million dollars. Ha!

Bears..or well beartrolls atleast seem to believe in spreading fear, Bulls get caught up on Hopium of paradigm shifts overnight during bull runs, we all have our shortcomings.

However your logic is solid regarding fundamental investment and why I think the bears are just spewing there end of the hopium spectrum at us constantly...as the bulls once did with trains and choo'n



2337. Post 9944858 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: inca on December 25, 2014, 10:19:13 PM
There's lots of talk about cheap Bitcoins

So what USD Value do you think a Bitcoin would be cheap ?

I know this is going to piss a lot of people off but I will regard Bitcoin to be 'cheap' when it hits about $20 a coin, of course it will still be cheap at $10 but that's irrelevant.

It will continue to work regardless of what the price is.

I know the relentless greed around here will not agree with the above, the world still needs dreamers though.

You are the one dreaming. 500 million dollars has been invested in bitcoin companies this year and you value the entire market cap at 140 million dollars. Ha!

inca, you are actually making it very clear that you're delusional by this post.

Really? So you think bitcoin is currently 3000% overvalued?

I wouldn't even bother responding to people who just shit on an idea you shared, without presenting a logical argument...especially when they call you delusional lol



2338. Post 9945284 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

I see the hashing rate has continued to peak, re-iterating my comment that they must be buying miners for xmas Cheesy



2339. Post 9945416 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: pjviitas on December 26, 2014, 12:08:57 AM

Its at least that...its only worth less than a one dollar to me.

thanks for wasting our time, with a pointless comment... let me add to my post count shaming you.

..so you see a 21m $usd market cap when all the coins are out or roughly 13m $usd market cap atm, currently at 4billionish hope you're max leverage shorrt. gl  and have fun with that



2340. Post 9945674 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

sure I do...but you think its worth a dollar...less than a dollar...while its valued @ 300-320 at the moment and so I encouraged you to short the shit out of it.



2341. Post 9945708 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Esse exited at 600-800 from my memory when I asked him to show his position via screenshot. We can only expect this of him now Cheesy who wouldn't want a lower bottom to rebuy them perhaps what he initially payed for the coins he sold on the last bull run.



2342. Post 9945898 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.



2343. Post 9945945 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: explorer on December 26, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.

I bought me some bitcoin  Cool

I did back in the flash crash period.. and hit my yearly target based on budgeted funds. Perhaps my New Years gift is planned already.



2344. Post 9946274 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

I <3 Cavirtex, I hear VoS isnt bad either



2345. Post 9946334 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 03:52:55 AM
I <3 Cavirtex, I hear VoS isnt bad either

I hear vos is legit and everything, but I've spoken personally over the phone to the virtex CEO, twice.

I've also seen him give testimony in front of the Canadian Senate.

These kind of things give me a certain amount of confidence... and still I hold the majority of my funds in cold wallets and I like the fact that even though I trust the exchange, I don't have to trust the exchange.

I can secure my own coins.

I've switched to keeping them on a hardware wallet.



2346. Post 9946699 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: shmadz on December 26, 2014, 05:07:26 AM
I feel Rickrolled.  
You also seemingly missed my question:
...
BTW, remind me how many euro had to be in the slave's account to start losing money?  Was it 100,000.00 (one hundred thousand) Euro?


I don't understand. You are saying that if I have a large amount of liquid assets I should expect them to be stolen by bankers or governments? (One in the same, really)

Or are you just saying that as a slave with less than 100,000 that I should just shut up and be happy about my situation?



Or be a small it business run out of Cyprus Cheesy



2347. Post 9946729 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: pjviitas on December 26, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
There's lots of talk about cheap Bitcoins

So what USD Value do you think a Bitcoin would be cheap ?

I know this is going to piss a lot of people off but I will regard Bitcoin to be 'cheap' when it hits about $20 a coin, of course it will still be cheap at $10 but that's irrelevant.

It will continue to work regardless of what the price is.

I know the relentless greed around here will not agree with the above, the world still needs dreamers though.

Value is a more a confidence game than anything else.

Something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

With that being said, I am willing to pay 0.01USD for 1BTC because that is what it is worth to me.

There may be other people out there that feel differently but unless they can make a good justification as to why I should pay more than that I am going to sit on my fiat.

Just my 2 cents.

grab a time Machine, and hop in it you can head back to buy off gox on the date 2010 -10 -03 until then stop talking pure nonsense edit begins: about your personal valuation.

How can we truly know what a cheap coin is? especially when this thing is barely adopted? each time you make a new ath .. and hold around the old ath following corrections in the market the cheap price has totally changed for those who sell it all out during a peak.

I try to imagine a situation that would suit your perspective cheap prices, maybe a major speculator holding something larger than that bearwhales 30k. This speculators is just gonna sneak it all on too multiple exchanges and dump us back to 2010 or 2012-2013 levels. IMO if that happens we'll have lots of signals of the impending doom. Is it purely your fear of the speculators? that makes you think were just gonna dump into the ground?



2348. Post 9947320 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: BitAddict on December 26, 2014, 07:51:28 AM
Why do you think bitcoin fanatics like BitChick went allin in bitcoin? To help poor people? Because she doesn't trust banks (but meanwhile risking a lot in a new "startup")?
No, she went allin because she believes in bitcoin and she wants to make a lot of money being greedy (I'm not blaming her. Nothing wrong there, anyone can do what she wants. And our human nature is to be greedy.). But she won't be happy at all if price goes down to $10, even if bitcoin "survives".
I bet at that price she probably wouldn't want to know anymore about bitcoin, buy more at that "cheap" price or look at the price. Too painful.

And don't tell me "is not about the price", because in that case you don't go allin, you just simply help the community and hold some bitcoin for fun.

It is neither because people believe banks and are risky, because bitcoin has a lot of potential BUT has higher risks, it is just a startup and we don't know how will it evolve. If you are scared about fiat, banks and your future (and yes, you are being right) then you should diversify (and having a percentage in bitcoin is fine), but not only going allin just in bitcoin.

On the other hand if price keeps going up you won't see any bitcoiner disappointed. But hey!, "Bitcoin is not about the price" TM Grin

all in is pretty cray cray.. budget an amount where you don't regret not building a 2k miner in 2010

..mind ya upd that 2k to speculative buying amounts closer to 7k



2349. Post 9947371 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2014, 08:16:37 AM
Why do you think bitcoin fanatics like BitChick went allin in bitcoin? To help poor people? Because she doesn't trust banks (but meanwhile risking a lot in a new "startup")?
No, she went allin because she believes in bitcoin and she wants to make a lot of money being greedy (I'm not blaming her. Nothing wrong there, anyone can do what she wants. And our human nature is to be greedy.). But she won't be happy at all if price goes down to $10, even if bitcoin "survives".
I bet at that price she probably wouldn't want to know anymore about bitcoin, buy more at that "cheap" price or look at the price. Too painful.

And don't tell me "is not about the price", because in that case you don't go allin, you just simply help the community and hold some bitcoin for fun.

It is neither because people believe banks and are risky, because bitcoin has a lot of potential BUT has higher risks, it is just a startup and we don't know how will it evolve. If you are scared about fiat, banks and your future (and yes, you are being right) then you should diversify (and having a percentage in bitcoin is fine), but not only going allin just in bitcoin.

On the other hand if price keeps going up you won't see any bitcoiner disappointed. But hey!, "Bitcoin is not about the price" TM Grin

all in is pretty cray cray.. budget an amount where you don't regret not building a 2k miner in 2010

..mind ya upd that 2k to speculative buying amounts closer to 7k

You are a hodler. Do you trade at all?

I did a little to start, but I wasn't patient enough.

I wish I stayed out at 800 and 600 lol (EDIT: only because I'd have more bitcoins to hold atm Cheesy ), but FOMO ( fear of missing out got this newb right in the kisser ) and after that I just decided to hold and play a long term trend which was my original plan.. deviated a little to trade and panic'd a little during gox lol despite not being on that exchange I knew the ripples would be massive.



2350. Post 9947463 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 26, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
^^^^^

It's all about setting realistic goals & what makes some people happy (price wise) some people will scoff at.
If I could pay off my mortgage through BTC I would be happy.
If we reach 2000 USD I'll most likely sell 75% & be very happy.

it should be a mix of .. paying it down and accumulating more in the dips.. Cheesy but I do see the value in owning your own property Cheesy



2351. Post 9954784 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Relax good news will not lead to ta or ew traders to.break from there style.

Perhaps last years rise was just an influx of adoption perhaps it was a pump.  

Just the fact there is good news means we should be patient enough for new joiners to figure out what's what.



2352. Post 9956100 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: S3052 on December 27, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
so 275 is the bottom for you?
if we see a big dumper coming around like the last sub 300, we might even hit sub 250

or 175...

it'll go as low as the support will allow. But still in the process what I can only hope is new joiners are getting some coins, and not purely for speculative purposes.



2353. Post 9956443 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: thejaytiesto on December 27, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
so 275 is the bottom for you?

I have no idea, but I would guess so.

It is difficult to value btc but the price has been higher than 275 for over a year now. In that time a lot of positive things have happened in the space, many that would not have been predicted with a straight face just a year ago.

We are in Holiday season and nothing that happens now is really that significant IMO (see volume). I think we see another pump next year which will draw in the next adoption wave.

Bottom is around 245 for me right now. Panic buys should start if it goes below there.

Breaking the old ath of, will be an intense time frame.. we'll find out if we have lots of support or capitulation shall be interesting to see what happens.



2354. Post 9963726 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

Quote from: jaberwock on December 28, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
Reserve Bank of India is Pro-bitcoin and thinks that eventually it will be the most used form of payment transactions.

The moon isn't that far away... Cheesy

http://www.geekcipher.com/technology/reserve-bank-of-india-gov-rajan-pro-bitcoin/

The same way PBOC said they are pro cryptos, while this year they banned BTC like one hundread of times.

What matter are acts, not words


they never really banned it though, that was just people in panic. They tightened regulations probably to hinder capital flight.



2355. Post 9973727 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.41h):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30623421

cause it will be misconstrued, I don't think the article is moon fuel, but sure pumpers might use it to spark something Cheesy



2356. Post 9982754 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 30, 2014, 11:51:22 AM
Come on people, together we can do it!
Let us push it beyond 300.

Why all people wants that bitcoin drop? I don't understand this :O. If you're a bitcoin owner, you can only hope that price will rise, or I'm wrong? I can not comprise your point of view


Because they want more coins & they can't afford to buy them at the current price.


that or they sold at 275 Cheesy



2357. Post 9983427 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: Omikifuse on December 30, 2014, 01:18:52 PM


Some claimed that BTC would be around 10k+ by now with pics that made lots of sense.

yeah ..mainly pre goxxing and china banned-but-not-banned-a-thon. I see a fair bit of strength in a market touted as bunch of digital tulip beanie babies.

those kinda of assumptions we're also just noobs like me thinking that people could digest bitcoin fast enough, and thats just not true. It takes some time and sometimes multiple factors to finally break the fiat only belief systems that some people are stuck in.

these numbers just take an estimated user base over a finite amount of coins to be created by x date. as well as usually being based on comparsion of btc eating up a % of certain markets. Gold, Western Union remittances etc.



2358. Post 9993277 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: klee on December 31, 2014, 01:50:45 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/winklevoss-bitcoin-trust-files-to-sell-201-million-shares-2014-12-31-7915121
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514457552/0001193125-14-457552-index.htm


Huh

5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove



2359. Post 9993293 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: klee on December 31, 2014, 01:56:25 PM

5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.



2360. Post 10009245 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

@JJG I don't think we can assume to know which is easier making these kind of assumptions is just silly. Bull whales with fiat aren't going to pump it without holding it first hand, so perhaps they're accumulating all the way through this bear trend, perhaps they're not...It's just easier to watch and see what happens...all the while paying attention to how infrastructure is growing in the bitcoin space.



2361. Post 10009668 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: inca on January 02, 2015, 07:54:45 AM
@JJG I don't think we can assume to know which is easier making these kind of assumptions is just silly. Bull whales with fiat aren't going to pump it without holding it first hand, so perhaps they're accumulating all the way through this bear trend, perhaps they're not...It's just easier to watch and see what happens...all the while paying attention to how infrastructure is growing in the bitcoin space.

I think the more pertinent question is why won't there be another pump?

We would simply be retracing our previous steps and the price could nearly quadruple from here just to reach the ATH. Top 500 addresses shows accumulation during this bear market, just as in others.

Why would whales accumulate coins if they did not expect the price to rise subsequently?


I am not saying there won't be a new pump and the same reason you think they're accumulating them for.



2362. Post 10014364 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: thewayshegoes on January 02, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
I thought one of those triangle thingys was supposed to close soon and we were gonna see some movement.  Angry

jan 4 Cheesy  one should close, but we likely go down.



2363. Post 10021704 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.42h):

Quote from: findftp on January 03, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
BTC-e is the only exchange which shows relative high volume.
Stamp and Finex are hesitating. The worst is yet to come. Prepare.

check them eyes, finex has like 9k in volume.. btc-e bounced first back to 302.



2364. Post 10034816 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.43h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 04, 2015, 02:41:49 PM
Forgive my naivety but I HODL, I don't trade.
Who is selling all of these coins, is it another bearwhale or just a shit load of individuals panicing about the price & selling all of their bags.

trading is somethign i will probably try in a year, lol

when i can completely control my emotions.

I want to see how high it goes on the short closing period Cheesy i should also be buying some today

really cant see a good reason not too.



2365. Post 10034885 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.43h):

Quote from: LOBSTER on January 04, 2015, 02:49:46 PM
We breakout throught ATH @ April 2013. Nice.

goxs even though its the higher of the two I hate it so much that ill go with bitstamps 258 lol



2366. Post 10035036 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.43h):

why are more miners coming on line lol.. im so confabulated? auto corrected from confuzzled.



2367. Post 10042556 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.44h):

withdrawals halted due to deposit issues?

apparently related to a server issue.. lets not get our gox hats out so soon.



2368. Post 10049759 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.44h):

man people are quick to jump to conclusions



2369. Post 10116752 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):

Quote from: GoWest on January 11, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
Rumor is that BitPay just laid off nine employees. Definitely an indication that adoption of Bitcoin for payments just isn't happening. http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitpay-lays-off-9-employees-today/

Thx for the 13 year old journalism. I will admit ive posted some subpar reporting but I usuallu signify it as such



2370. Post 10117095 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):

Quote from: abercrombie on January 11, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
is crypto done??  Huh



bitcoin is the crypto Jesus, it has died and been resurrected so many times it as if it was immortal or something



2371. Post 10117815 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):

I dunno if this panic dump doesn't break the low of a week ago following stamp, I think that maybe we'll have a bottom.



2372. Post 10117862 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):

Quote from: octaft on January 11, 2015, 09:24:21 PM
Am I the only one to find it humorous that permabulls only think price matters on the way up?

First state an opinion and that attack it as a fact. Classic.

For some, price does not matter (especially if you're not holding any).

If you're not holding any, you're probably not a permabull.

gonna hodl some when we set a bottom and reverse directions.



2373. Post 10118417 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.46h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on January 11, 2015, 09:44:19 PM
permabulls gonna permasell

And permabears gonna permaFUD.


haha, how do you as a perma-bull feel? must feel stupid right now? Cheesy

LOL Perma-bull?

Was I a perma-bull when I sold at $155?

To tell the truth, I felt more bullish when I bought back at $97.

How do I feel? Far from stupid. Bitcoin has been good to me.

troll comments seem to be based on trading in shorter time frames, those holding for 5 years must be deemed with a master of your domain title.



2374. Post 10135426 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

Quote from: prophetx on January 13, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
see you guys at $75

soon vc money will out weigh bitcoin market cap LOL



2375. Post 10135787 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on January 13, 2015, 09:42:10 AM
see you guys at $75

soon vc money will out weigh bitcoin market cap LOL

> $500 million new money is coming this year too ...  first they want cheap coins

I was being a dick, I'm just lol'n at how much so bitcoin success is touted by those as price rising being successful, when its being mainly used a speculative vehicle by day traders, who can expose weaker investors with experience.

We introduced alot more options to go long/short and with it leverage.. how can people expect it to not get a little crazy, especially after we went crazy last Nov for whatever reason that drove so many to be interested.

a nice buy/sell indicator for me could've been buy while verification backlogs existed on my exchange and divest as they got closer to none Cheesy

All in all lower cost per bitcoin may bring people to it that had written it off once before so I can't hate as long as they get in on the beauty that is btc.



2376. Post 10136040 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

Quote from: noobtrader on January 13, 2015, 10:31:42 AM
So what did you say was the bottom line, at which people will switch off their miners and the whole network will collapse?=)

i say 150...


dont worry ill just mine with my computer Cheesy i got this Cheesy



2377. Post 10141105 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty blocks seem fine Cheesy



2378. Post 10141162 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

http://moneyandstate.com/bitcoin-value-ponzi-schemes/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bitcoin-value-ponzi-schemes

seems like a good read.



2379. Post 10141580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.47h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 13, 2015, 07:18:24 PM

Bitcoin's Bubble Means That Current Levels Shouldn't Be A Concern

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoins-bubble-means-that-current-levels-shouldnt-be-a-concern-cm432278#ixzz3OjMqeQga

Nice read

found it a refreshing perspective to the bubble talk of most financial articles.



2380. Post 10147579 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.48h):

Bears troll seem to have accurate TA, CLAP CLAP Cheesy

so its 2:30 am and Im going to find an atm I can deposit at so I can fund my god dam account.. I want some of this still.. I shall feed on the blood of my fall brethren.



2381. Post 10166265 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.49h):

Quote from: ivyleague1985 on January 15, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
Yes, this bottom looks like the October one and it is AT LEAST a medium term bottom.

Pull up bitcoinwisdom and look at finex or stamp on a longer timeframe chart (say 6 hours) and zoom out. Look at the volume! Now compare it with the bottom at 275.

If your point is we had MORE buy volume on Oct. 4th at 275, then I agree with you.  And look at where we are now.  I don't see this as reversal.

A reversal is when you can go to a 30m, 1h, 2h, 4h, 6h, and 12h chart and all see the same thing:  rising price on rising volume.

The volume is thin because many still didn't believe in the reversal yet. Volume will catch up once people confirmed it as a reversal.

what charts are you guys looking at, cause at least stamp, and finex .. don't have more volume at 275.. than we did breaking 200.

as to what amounts are buy volume that is gonna be subject to the candles timeframes. Unless you have data of the order flow.



2382. Post 10177632 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: DanielT on January 16, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
Haha, but where are those sub $200 coins?  Huh

Don't worry, they might come in a few hours.

inc as we speak. but we gotta make a bottom reversal on volume up to bulls Cheesy



2383. Post 10181677 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: YourMother on January 17, 2015, 12:56:05 AM
There are bulltards who bought 100(or more) btc at $10(or less) (invested $1,000) and sold 2 btc at $1,000 ($1,000 profit). Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.

The difference is:
In the past you could accumulate with 10k $ a lot off a limited supply (bitcoin) -> wait for the pump and dump!
Today this is not possible, because you need a shitload off bagholders to push the price to the moon.

But yeah, some early adopters still try to push the price, because some were to stupid to ever lockin some profits and get out partially.

In the past bitcoin was worth nothing $0.001, $0.01, $0,1 ... $1 ... and so on. I have first bought at $12.5 b/c I believe bitcoin will be worth $50k( and more).

I'd say infinite.

I wonder what it would be @ when 0.5% of internet users want a coin but can only get 0.14357750366891372239957301007592 if they all got a piece of one

total btc supply / (2014 internet users * 0.05)
21000000 / 146262467.75 = 0.14357750366891372239957301007592



2384. Post 10181758 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: criptix on January 17, 2015, 01:04:40 AM
There are bulltards who bought 100(or more) btc at $10(or less) (invested $1,000) and sold 2 btc at $1,000 ($1,000 profit). Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.

The difference is:
In the past you could accumulate with 10k $ a lot off a limited supply (bitcoin) -> wait for the pump and dump!
Today this is not possible, because you need a shitload off bagholders to push the price to the moon.

But yeah, some early adopters still try to push the price, because some were to stupid to ever lockin some profits and get out partially.

In the past bitcoin was worth nothing $0.001, $0.01, $0,1 ... $1 ... and so on. I have first bought at $12.5 b/c I believe bitcoin will be worth $50k( and more).

I'd say infinite.

I wonder what it would be @ when 0.5% of internet users want a coin but can only get 0.14357750366891372239957301007592 if they all got a piece of one

total btc supply / (2014 internet users * 0.05)
21000000 / 146 262 467.75 = 0.14357750366891372239957301007592


this number cant be right

/edit its 1.4 btc :9

http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/

2,925,249,355 x 0.05 = 146,262,467.75

21,000,000 btc / 146,262,467.75 people = 0.143578



2385. Post 10181782 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.50h):

Quote from: criptix on January 17, 2015, 01:12:52 AM
There are bulltards who bought 100(or more) btc at $10(or less) (invested $1,000) and sold 2 btc at $1,000 ($1,000 profit). Keep posting memes. (98 btc left) and we are buying more.

The difference is:
In the past you could accumulate with 10k $ a lot off a limited supply (bitcoin) -> wait for the pump and dump!
Today this is not possible, because you need a shitload off bagholders to push the price to the moon.

But yeah, some early adopters still try to push the price, because some were to stupid to ever lockin some profits and get out partially.

In the past bitcoin was worth nothing $0.001, $0.01, $0,1 ... $1 ... and so on. I have first bought at $12.5 b/c I believe bitcoin will be worth $50k( and more).

I'd say infinite.

I wonder what it would be @ when 0.5% of internet users want a coin but can only get 0.14357750366891372239957301007592 if they all got a piece of one

total btc supply / (2014 internet users * 0.05)
21000000 / 146 262 467.75 = 0.14357750366891372239957301007592


this number cant be right

/edit its 1.4 btc :9

2,925,249,355 x 0.05 = 146,262,467.75

21,000,000 btc / 146,262,467.75 people = 0.143578

thats 5% Smiley

thank you for finding my failure to do basic math lol



2386. Post 10205814 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Hey everyone I thought bitcoin was dead, but we're still here spending more time talking about it then most people talk about dead stuff...

Bitcoin is my Jesus



2387. Post 10207526 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: aztecminer on January 19, 2015, 05:21:03 PM
swiss central bank depegs the franc from the euro ..
the Dow Jones sinks over 2%, while silver went up 7% and gold went up 4.5%:"
bitcoin being in it's own world is.....down.
it seem like something wrong in bitcoin world .


remember, even if currently about 800k $ get invested into Bitcoin, it will only cover the inflation. You have to add every merchant instantly selling + regular sellers.

That's a hell of selling pressure every day. That's the main reason we will most likely stay in this bear market until something drastic happens. Like a Fiat Currency Crashing  (€, $ or  ¥).
If nothing magical happens, the next halving of the mining reward would at least take out some pressure so the currency could grow in value.




yup i do remember the inflation of 3600 bitcoins everyday. i agree with your assessment. i think the swiss didn't unpeg from euro and hurt their own economy just for the heck of it. somethings going on.
 

There was an influx of money into their country ..its pretty much made them de-peg. I'm basing this off one article I read though



2388. Post 10207820 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: LittleDigger on January 19, 2015, 05:27:52 PM


Any chance of a link to the article ?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102343957



2389. Post 10219877 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Torque on January 20, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
Price has flatlined since the Coinbase announcement pop.






Well at least it has not tanked like the dozens of other times acceptance /good news hit.

My prediction:  Whale traders have known about the Coinbase deal for the last week, perhaps longer, and have been propping up the price in hopes of new buyers rushing in.  If they don't get the expected rise they want/need (+20%), they will dump again soon.  They're gonna dump either way.

speculators going to speculate.. most of these movements have almost nothing to do with the news. More of the fact that real whales don't even play on exchanges, but they do make splashes from time to time. Either way .. the trend will break when it breaks, similarly to the bull top, the spring was a double down on paradigm shift which can still play out in the coming years with proper infrastructure investment.



2390. Post 10220180 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: luckygenough56 on January 20, 2015, 07:28:40 PM

this is just hilarious to read

"bitcoin experts" hahahahahahahaha

Chose pre-goxin mentalities, gox sure did slap bitcoin into a realization that we need better checks in place for our exchanges. Or you could just keep your private keys in your own control.



2391. Post 10220521 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: molecular on January 20, 2015, 07:59:23 PM

Chose pre-goxin mentalities, gox sure did slap bitcoin into a realization that we need better checks in place for our exchanges. Or you could just keep your private keys in your own control.

So... do we have better exchanges? Probably. Good enough on average? Probably not.

Thing is: money will move from people with lax key security to people with better key security. So over time bitcoins are being stored more and more safely.


its a worthy debate, I am not sure how much multi sig is implemented, but we're moving in the right direction. eventually I would hope people became tech savvy enough that mycelium p2p trading would be possible.



2392. Post 10229648 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 21, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
For all those doubting how amateurish and criminal our exchanges are, tune in yourself: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JIOjeIjWbN

A professional criminal would never slip up, and an honest amateur would not do this. But when you combine both, you get the clusterfuck we have.

so despite him saying he doesn't actively trade it, you wanna start a witch hunt. I am sorry its not cool for him to divest or manage his wealth to an extent.



2393. Post 10229701 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 21, 2015, 04:37:43 PM
For all those doubting how amateurish and criminal our exchanges are, tune in yourself: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JIOjeIjWbN

A professional criminal would never slip up, and an honest amateur would not do this. But when you combine both, you get the clusterfuck we have.

so despite him saying he doesn't actively trade it, you wanna start a witch hunt. I am sorry its not cool for him to divest or manage his wealth to an extent.
He contradicts himself by backpedaling later. He trades.

As someone else on Reddit sums it up:

Quote
"IM NOT TRADING. WELL, IVE BEEN A TRADER MY WHOLE LIFE AND I BUY WHEN IT GOES DOWN AND SELL WHEN IT GOES UP BUT YEAH IM NOT ACTIVELY TRADING, THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE."

are you going to really, discriminate the difference between actively trading on a daily basis, vs adjusting his position as the fucking asset tanks? man you're showing your inner lambchop today.

A decent attack would've just stated they shouldn't allow employees to trade @ bitfinex, and that they should manage or trade their bitcoin holdings at a different exchange. Instead we incite witch hunts.



2394. Post 10229795 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 21, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
are you going to really, discriminate the difference between actively trading on a daily basis, vs adjusting his position as the fucking asset tanks? man you're showing your inner lambchop today.
Not my problem you don't know what trading is: I'm not the one discriminating between timeframes.

BTW, as I understand it, the context of this audio recording is that he slipped up before that on some Teamspeak channel, and the shitstorm came over him via a couple Reddit threads. So, lots of backpedaling is to be expected.

Are you telling me that such things should not be investigated, and that exchanges shouldn't publish a ruleset how they deal with such conflicts of interest? Hell, even the Micky Mouse Magic the Gathering exchange always claimed that they forbid their employees from trading there.

I am about not trying to incite witch hunts on small bits of info in an informal teamspeak chat, but I don't doubt we need more oversight into these situations.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2t3iz5/bitfinex_cso_phillip_g_potter_admits_to_trading/cnw41fk?context=3

Hey Guys,

This is Josh Rossi, VP of Business Development at Bitfinex, some of my initial comments were referenced below. The word "trade" has multiple meanings, and is thrown around a lot, and I just want to clarify a few points that have come up.

    The bio information that was linked to is based on an old bio that was incorrectly written on the tether.to beta site. Phil was managing a fund that was invested in cryptocurrencies, but ceased day to day trading activities upon starting his role at Bitfinex, which roughly coincided with the fall of Mt Gox.

    The entire management team monitors our personal accounts, in order to prevent abuse, and we all act as checks and balances on each other. The idea that someone who works in Bitcoin shouldn't be able to own or adjust his position in bitcoin is silly. Bitcoin is not a publicly traded company, it is an asset. Any orders Phil may have placed would have been limit orders, and subject to the rest of the management teams monitoring. To be very clear, Phil has not been actively trading since joining the team at Bitfinex. That being said, and given the volatility of bitcoin, it is necessary to adjust one's exposure. We spend a lot of time trying to build the best exchange, and we definitely do hold and are bullish on bitcoin. There is a difference between a "trade" in the sense of being a day trader or actively trading positions, and executing a limit order, which is basically a passive buy or a sell of the asset in question.

    We have become the number one USD exchange, specifically, because we have made it our top priority to provide a fair and even playing field. We engage with our clients and the community and try to be as transparent as possible. We hold ourselves, and each other to the highest ethical standards.

Basically, we are very excited about the future of cryptocurrencies, and are honored that we can be a part of the core infrastructure. We are in it for the long haul, Bitfinex has been around for quite a while. We have consistently proven that we will not sell out our future for a quick buck now.


If enough people share your displeasure they best change their policy, otherwise as always in the bitcoin world user beware.



2395. Post 10229869 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on January 21, 2015, 04:55:12 PM
If you want my opinion, to me there's no doubt that for anyone who doesn't use margin or stop loss orders on Bitfinex, he will be fine and won't suffer from any possible inside trading because Bitfinex doesn't exist in a vacuum and follows other exchanges.

I don't want any witch hunts and I will delete any sensitive info should anyone dox him. I've no interest in making it about one person, rather I wish to make it about the whole Bitcoin exchange "industry".

Sounds 100% necessary for healthy growth.



2396. Post 10231808 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.51h):

Quote from: Malin Keshar on January 21, 2015, 08:19:54 PM
moon?

more bulls needed Cheesy



2397. Post 10342814 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: SheHadMANHands on February 03, 2015, 05:42:36 AM
It's quite quiet, too quite quiet..




 or is it



2398. Post 10349502 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.56h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 03, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
People been dumping again.......

as per usual, lots of buying the dip though



2399. Post 10421924 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.57h):

Quote from: zoinky on February 11, 2015, 01:30:48 AM
Goin up.

on a tuesday



2400. Post 10625580 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.01h):

Quote from: testerman on March 01, 2015, 11:45:52 PM
weekly macd gone green

yay Grin

been green since thur - fri but it just closed green for the first time since aug 3rd so perhaps this is what you we're getting that



2401. Post 47719209 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

man I'm sorry I've never comeback to this thread. Hope all are doing well.

Lol I just un-ignored Lambchops.



2402. Post 47719545 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):


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'ello Davy
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It's been a while...lol I got caught up in voice chats....still HODLING though.



2403. Post 51663838 (copy this link) (by Davyd05) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.54h):

Quote from: LoyceV on June 30, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
A couple pages back, some users expressed their interest in some stats. Allow me to quote myself from LoyceV's data on the Wall Observer thread || moon, hodl , fuck, weeee in Meta:

I wasn't sure where to post this, It's obvious the Wall Observer thread has earned it's place on the forum, and for that reason I picked Meta. I don't want it to be burried under dozens of pages of new posts in no time.

Prologue
I've always been reluctant to scrape the massive Wall Observer thread. This changed when Maggiordome notified me about fillippone's post in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion.

I've scraped the thread up to page 24395. My scraper downloaded 487799 out of 487900 posts. I don't know what happened to the remaining 101 posts.

The most frequent posters
I asked if anyone is interested in a list of users who posted there: 5771 users have posted in the Wall Observer thread, with just over 84 posts on average.

The following users have posted x times in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Merit is based on last Friday's data dump. I only show Merit if there has been at least 1 transaction. If it shows 0 Merit, that means the user has sent Merit, but didn't receive anything. Trust is not shown on the Speculation-board.

    1. 21753x (Legendary) ChartBuddy (BPIP)
    2. 14001x (Legendary) JayJuanGee (821 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    3. 10885x (Legendary) adamstgBit (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    4. 8506x (Hero Member) micgoossens (2098 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    5. 6062x (Legendary) Last of the V8s (1738 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    6. 6033x (Hero Member) HairyMaclairy (1162 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    7. 4897x (Legendary) Fatman3001 (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    8. 4809x (Legendary) jojo69 (780 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    9. 4711x (Hero Member) JorgeStolfi (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   10. 4651x (Legendary) BlindMayorBitcorn (64 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   11. 4510x (Legendary) JimboToronto (269 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   12. 4417x (Copper Member) LFC_Bitcoin (838 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   13. 4226x (Hero Member) bitserve (511 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   14. 3971x (Legendary) Torque (501 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   15. 3823x (Legendary) billyjoeallen (6 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   16. 3605x (Sr. Member) NotLambchop (BPIP)
   17. 3389x (Legendary) empowering (44 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   18. 3196x (Sr. Member) realr0ach (196 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   19. 3123x (Legendary) jbreher (293 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   20. 3110x (Legendary) gentlemand (763 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   21. 3035x (Hero Member) ShroomsKit (BPIP)
   22. 2887x (Legendary) podyx (12 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   23. 2873x (Hero Member) fonzie (BPIP)
   24. 2866x (Legendary) Richy_T (BPIP)
   25. 2843x (Legendary) Ibian (182 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   26. 2709x (Legendary) Elwar (386 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   27. 2534x (Legendary) BobLawblaw (950 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   28. 2488x (Legendary) spooderman (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   29. 2455x (Legendary) seleme (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   30. 2436x (Legendary) macsga (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   31. 2401x (Hero Member) Davyd05 (BPIP)
   32. 2324x (Hero Member) TERA (0 Merit earned (history)) Autobanned!
   33. 2305x (Legendary) inca (BPIP)
   34. 2292x (Sr. Member) Rosewater Foundation (244 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   35. 2209x (Legendary) marcus_of_augustus (164 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   36. 2159x (Legendary) derpinheimer (BPIP)
   37. 2087x (Hero Member) d_eddie (507 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   38. 2083x (Legendary) tarmi (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   39. 2073x (Legendary) windjc (40 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   40. 1994x (Hero Member) BTCMILLIONAIRE (271 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   41. 1983x (Legendary) hdbuck (BPIP)
   42. 1972x (Legendary) aminorex (29 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   43. 1968x (Legendary) mmitech (BPIP)
   44. 1950x (Hero Member) Toxic2040 (920 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   45. 1901x (Hero Member) dreamspark (BPIP)
   46. 1803x (Legendary) xhomerx10 (1200 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   47. 1788x (Legendary) infofront (751 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   48. 1752x (Hero Member) Walsoraj (BPIP)
   49. 1739x (Legendary) kurious (249 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   50. 1697x (Legendary) shmadz (BPIP)
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 5771. 1x (Full Member) giustone (BPIP)
click for full list

Globb0's prediction was close:
1. JJG
2. MicG

Keywords
It turns out the regulars in the Wall Observer thread have more wishes:
-how many lines of text JJG has posted
-which word has been posted the most : moon, hodl , fuck, weeee... ?
-who has posted the most haikus
I haven't counted JJG's lines, and I wouldn't know how to count haikus.
But I did count the number of posts that contain the requested keywords (case insensitive, the text may be part of a longer phrase, including quotes and in some cases the username or personal text). Click the link to see the full list of who posted what when:
moon: 11623 posts
hodl: 20379 posts
fuck: 27580 posts
weeee: 1328 posts

Keyword frequency graphs
Much more interesting than the total, is seeing the frequency of each keyword:
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Requests?
Any other requests: just ask Smiley

Full data download
If you want to search all the data yourself, you can download the posts in raw HTML format. I tried to zip it, but bzip2 made it 78% smaller. Download loyce.club/other/WallObserver/WallObserver.tar.bz2 (179 MB compressed, 3.5 GB uncompressed).

If I only had a bitcoin for every post Sad lolololol